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[–]durgsrbad 14 points15 points  (34 children)

75BTC? Fucking. Ouch.

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 8 points9 points  (33 children)

i had a good job, so i did not need money. i belive in bitcoins, so i did not change to £.

police usually dont give back computer after drug arrest. they confiscate every thing related and store it.... shame on me

[–]creamynebula 5 points6 points  (20 children)

Is the hard drive encrypted? The wallet at least encrypted right? Anyway. I would get a lawyer to try to force them to return your computer to you.

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 6 points7 points  (19 children)

only wallet.we cant do anything this is normal practice, if i push the police for computer it can give theme hints. 75btc vs more penalty. i will be happy if the computer is returned if not shame on me.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (10 children)

You're in the UK, yes? A friends brother was arrested for dealing Heroin and coke, not through DNM's, and he eventually got his laptop back. Took a while though. For what it's worth he was dealing relatively large amounts and got a suspended sentence, a fine and like 200 hours community service. No prison time.

Good luck!

[–]lanster100 5 points6 points  (9 children)

How the fuck do you not get prison time for dealing heroin? Saying that I've heard stories of people saying that 20g of heroin is for personal use and getting away with it in the UK courts, actually a joke.

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

heroin is just like weed. only different taste

[–]zee1000 1 point2 points  (6 children)

I got offered 3 years prison or 5 years drug court during pre indictment in the us for like 15 bags of h and a few dubs of coke. When all was said and done i ended up with a dumbed down probation...but the first offer blew my mind. IMagine smoeone was dumb enough to accept it.

In my state even empty bags of heroin is considered poss of cds and not paraphenalia. us blows dick.

Even on a single empty bag you will likely be charged with h posses which is 3-5 years and a felony - small amounts like that often get dropped to municipal court. But if you have a record a single empty bag can and WILL land you in cuffs and not the nice county cuffs.

[–]sorrybouthatsport 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Was it a young DA? Those fuckers ALWAYS try to drop the book on you

[–]waitingforpopper 1 point2 points  (3 children)

People are people, so be careful with the generalizations. Young DAs can be hard asses, but in my experience, the young, fresh out of law school prosecutors tend to be more idealistic and believe that they have the opportunity to make a difference. Almost everyone hates the drug war these days, left and right, and most prosecutors I have met want to find alternative means of dealing with drug offenses that don't include jailtime.

Life isn't like the movies. I am a criminal defense attorney, by the way. The distinction between old and young DAs is impossible. Any differences between prosecutors have much more to do with personalities than age.

[–]sorrybouthatsport 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Well I guess it's fair then that I add "in my experience" which makes it more anecdotal. It could be a characteristic of the court systems that I personally have been through. Thanks for correcting me on that though. Is it possible that sometimes young DAs are more under the thumb of hard ass superiors so that makes them more aggressive?

[–]Hardcorish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shit I've ordered 50g of H before and it was all for my personal use lol. I'm sure the police wouldn't see it that way if I were busted though. That's what sucks about having a big habit. I'd go down for selling despite me pleading personal use.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

if u had a good job, why sell drugs? just wondering brotha. I'm sorry this happened to you man. Good luck with everything homie. I hope you didn't lose the job over this.

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 2 points3 points  (6 children)

i really belive in bitcoin. my work only pay enough to satisfied my needs, nothing more. i wanted to get atleast 200-400 bitcoins and i would sit and wait before bitcoins fly to the moon. yes i lost the job because i was in prison.

i really dont have shit now. i sold my cloths and car to find a place to live in. i dont know if i should start selling again so i can get back on my feet.

[–]hdheuud 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I really hate to give you this advice, but it kinda seems to be the only way. Make money any way you know how

[–]s0urpatch 3 points4 points  (1 child)

plus you already have a criminal record, so...

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

what does that mean? record or not, i dont respect authorities telling me what i can or cant do. i have my own judgement system and base my choices by that.

[–]NoRemorse13 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Just start a rap group.

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

a aint no nigga homie

[–]R4ID 8 points9 points  (0 children)

best selling hit in the works already i see?

[–]sonnyburnett3 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Did they fire you when you were in jail?

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

no after i came out. they found out what happend.

[–]BTVA -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They can't fire you until you've been convicted.

I'm guessing it was something like the multibit client It sticks copies of its folder with the keys in all over your computer.

[–]sapiophile 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Two words: paper backups!

[–]kirkkommander 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Also cloud backups. Not sure how safe that is though..

[–]pic_related 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Encrypt with truecrypt. Upload to Wuala. More safe than paper backups.

[–]CHomfLok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or something else. If you use tails (and you should), truecrypt will be removed next patch due to devs abandoning the project.
https://tails.boum.org/doc/encryption_and_privacy/truecrypt/index.en.html#cryptsetup for information how to open truecrypt files after next patch with cryptsetep. OR Use LUKS https://tails.boum.org/doc/encryption_and_privacy/encrypted_volumes/index.en.html

[–]creamynebula 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Veracrypt.

[–]doubledoseopimpin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If you had a electrum wallet and saved the seed phrase, you can get your wallet back with your bitcoin. Did you backup your wallet on a flash drive?

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no bro. i have checked every thing. nothing can be done if i dont have the physical computer.

read some reports of people getting it back, but it could take years/months.... yeye, i was planning saving the coins any way.

[–]BTVA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it goes to trial, you can get your computer back afterwards, unless the computer was the crime eg child porn.

I'm going under the assumption you're in the UK. With luck, bitcoin will have gained in value in a year or 18 months. Drug trials take ages.

Best of luck. Thanks for sharing with us. Learn what you can from the experience (if there is anything to be learned. Sometimes its just a bunch of stuff)

[–]SgtFaecesProcessor 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Hate to be that guy but perhaps you should have had a backup of your wallet somewhere else like on cloud storage so you could move your funds in case of something like this and prevent possible confiscation.

[–]987sg38h4os9fu0aq2 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Back up everything, encrypt with PGP. Problem solved.

[–]SgtFaecesProcessor 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Oh yeah, you can encrypt files with certain pgp progs, can't you? Never used it but I think gpg4usb has this feature.

Edit: Done a little experimenting with it. Can certainly encrypt wallets which is handy but as for the best way to use this to optimise security? Not sure I could say without more thought, it merely encrypts it into a PGP message which if you open the file in a text editor it will be obvious something is trying to be hidden. Still needs to be decrypted, of course, but the idea would be to isolate this from other data associated with you, incriminating or not probably. Using the same encryption key would be defeating the point, which would also mean keeping the different PGP key separate too.

[–]zee1000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you can encrypt any type of file

[–]sflskatah 2 points3 points  (16 children)

real shit, anything in the papers or anything? I do believe you however.

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

news paper? no, no. this is small, not worht news paper

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (11 children)

Stuff like this hardly ever makes it into the papers on this side of the pond (I'm assuming OP and I originate from the same country as he referenced turning bitcoins into £ in another comment)

A couple of years ago a warehouse was raided in my city where they found H with a street value of millions. Didn't even make the local papers/news, let alone national.

[–]sflskatah 0 points1 point  (3 children)

unfortunately, i wish you the best my friend, make sure everything is thru tor and encrypted on your end

[–]everybodygetweird 0 points1 point  (2 children)

mashed poturtle salad?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wow I need to move there...

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In the UK, we're much more pragmatic about drug use than in the US. If you're caught with a personal use amount no matter if it's weed or H, it's most likely just to be confiscated. At the most, you'll get a police caution which is barely a slap on the wrist. It's not a conviction, more of a warning to behave yourself.

Sentencing on average is much less hardcore than the US. Life is 15 years, half for good behaviour unless it's a particularly high profile case which is usually reserved for child murders, and the like. It's good in OP's case - I doubt he'll serve any prison time - but it's pretty shitty when you are a victim of a violent crime.

I can't think the last time I read about a big drug bust in the paper or saw it on the news. I'm sure it happens, but you only ever hear about it through word of mouth like the H in my city.

[–]1ugly 5 points6 points  (6 children)

I wish I could pity you, but greed got the best of you. However you see it, none of this would have happened if you if you didn't "need" your product. With your good job and the 75btc you didn't need shit. Should have stuck to the plan and never used him again. Also, you could have used a different vendor, you didn't because you didn't want to use the shiny bitcoin, tons of reputable dealers with escrow available to EU. No excuses you fucked yourself up, the only thing you did right, is not talk.

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 9 points10 points  (5 children)

i agree, this is my fault for sure.

i have dealt with many bulk vendors. 3/4 of the times i was scammed(bunk product, light weight, exit scam)

escrow dont do shit, most times market side with sellers.

The Interways did wors than scam me.

[–]1ugly 1 point2 points  (1 child)

OH well, you got off easy. I wish you the best of course, money comes and goes don't worry too much, if you have connections you will survive easily. Back in the day on the streets, it was the dealers worrying about snitches and rats. The game has changed now, 360 degrees, all the trust is put on the dealer with little to lose and the one who is victimized is the guy with the money. Is that fair? Who's to say...

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yeah what has happend cant be undone. i really dont care for the money but i hate the situation im in now. i came from a rough background with nothing. worked my way up. i have always done shady shit(selling drugs) but i really thought the past was behind me and i was finally on my feet and couldnt fall. what bothers me most is why this fucker did not send the package as i told him to.

[–]markhenry31 1 point2 points  (1 child)

fuck interways

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

for sure

[–]someone-great 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is an exit scam?

[–]crackwidow 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Sorry to hear about this OP, hope all turns out well for you.

What happened? You think they got you because Interways didn't use stealth again on the second delivery and they caught it this time?

It's all pretty fucked up anyway. Will be sure not to use Interways...

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i think i got busted for lack of stealth and MBB. if he had sent the package as i instructed him to, i wouldnt get raided. 50g MDMA is not a raid. love letter maybe. but this cunt sent the speed and MDMA to the same addy, my home.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sucks bro I wish you the best g

[–]lsmith333 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I don't believe it. Post your account where you have so much paid or even just the feedback to prove it. Should be easy prove. Just sounds like FUD. European vendors seem to have intense competition makes sense to spread shit like this

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

ok dont.

[–]honestlyimeanreally 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey look, there goes your credibility!

[–]mdxxthrowaw 1 point2 points  (4 children)

tell me why i posted moths ago about him not using MBB he got complacint as a vendor and deserves life in jail for being a cunt.

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

my thread got deleted from sr forum. he is a cunt. putting me and others at risk.

fuck him, dont ever deal with him. no one.

[–]mdxxthrowaw 5 points6 points  (2 children)

because of him my home fucking address got burned and LE came to my door with pack. they came and left luckily but still he is a fuck

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

how much weight?

[–]mdxxthrowaw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it was a small one. 50g

[–]erlytimez 1 point2 points  (1 child)

dude, you got raided cuz u tried to return your package. whats do you think happened with that box? If it got picked up and "returned to sender" I guarantee it got as far as a sort facility inside you orgin country, was opened due to strange circumstance (suspect orgin, fake return address, pretty much everything) and they were like "okay lets go back and get THAT guy"... they found a bunch of drugs on your doorstep...

[–]honestlyimeanreally 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He didn't return it.

[–]FagDamager 0 points1 point  (3 children)

damn 75BTC ?!!!!!

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

yeah bro. it really dont bother me as much, whats worst is my job. i lost my great job. perfect job.

now i have to do some shady shit to survive and not for fun like it was.

[–]FagDamager 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah that sucks so much, but that's part of the risk huh?

Idk how you're so not bothered about losing 75BTC though, at least you could have been on your feet or something with them. I hope you can get them back though, i'd cry if i lost even 1 BTC ha

[–]Weeeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to hear that, bro :|

[–]og_by_monsanto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

About the coin you lost, two words, cold storage

[–]13tom13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i have been reading the comments and you didnt want to give away where your located but you have also mentioned you would change the 75 BTC into £ so that indicates your in the UK; hopefully you just changed the currency so its harder to ID you if not hopefully no one notices. Sorry to hear you lost a good job but why deal if you had one? i could understand doing it on the low to close friends but that quantity, hopefully they wont think you are a violent offended and get community service, a fine, or house arrest. If you are in the UK the police do raid houses for stuff that isin't heroin for a start what about all the weed gardens raided plus there was a case about half a year ago of a guy prosecuted in th uk for like 100g or MDMA i swear i saw it on this subreddit

[–]Trappy_Pandora 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Puts domestic vendors' markups in perspective if this is what is risked ordering international.

[–]Firebolt4848 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I'm new so sorry for the nooby question, but what is CD and MBB? Edit: I know what MBB is now, but still not CD, thanks.

[–]akcom 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Please post some evidence such as the indictment or target letter please. Because otherwise this is just speculation.

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I could do that, but then i had to reveal my origin country it would be easier to track me down. not by the police only, but the vendor also. after all, i used my stupid own address.

i have nothing to gain from this, i have not asked for money or any thing else. people who have shopped from interways recognize the details i mentioned. dont belive me, continue to shop.

[–]akcom 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The vendor can easily track you down just based on the order details and the context of your conversation.

The police obviously already have it.

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

not too sure. i have made some adjustemts. people get busted all the time.

[–]markhenry31 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

FUCK. AND FUCK SILKROAD. damn bro.

[–]CDRCRDS -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

give me your bitcoin wallet password we can get you to send it over like that.

[–]InterwaysPOLICE[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

fuck off cunt

[–]zee1000 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What a funny joke - how original

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