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[–]oxygen-team[S] 16 points17 points  (24 children)

We are trying to find some forum that is out of our own control, so it is clear for everybody that we cannot censurate it.

We welcome everybody to do a PEN test audit on our market... We didnot earn any money yet but we will certainly reward everyone who find a security bug.

No we are not planning to introduce a vendor bond, we might make FE impossible in the future. Right now we are advising against FE but technically it is possible to mark a item received directly.

Yeah about the fraud. We are discussing about it... What about fraud that causes damage only to institutions(as banks, governments)?

Right now the system sums the money of the item and the shipping when there is a dispute. So if the market admin will decide that the buyer is right 100%, all the money including the shipping will be refunded.

Last point, my qualifications(and that of my team): 1. Security specialists. 2. Developers frontend and backend. 3 DBA-er 4 Tester

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Good call. Censurating forums leads to mutinery.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No guns, no fraud equals no mutineries.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

thank you for the fast reply.

sounds nice so far.

a temporary solution could be to run an own subreddit l (US-servers are probably not the best solution in the long run tho.) and i'm sure someone trustworthy will be willing to help out with a better solution.

making FE impossible sounds nice to me but i guess vendors might have a slightly different view on that.

about the fraud: i don't believe in victimless crime.banks and governments might be faceless (and despicable) institutions but in the end its always the people who pay. fraud and weapons wouldn't stop me from using a market but i'd prefer one that doesn't offer these things.

i wish you guys good luck and profits and us another market with honest admins of tthe caliber of backopy and agora

[–]zito2494 2 points3 points  (13 children)

What kind of frauds do you mean? I've never heard of a fraud that doesn't hurt individuals.

[–]oxygen-team[S] 8 points9 points  (12 children)

Now for instance people that use fake id's(so an id of a non existing person) to get an phone subscription. Then only the phone company is hurt.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

And when a phone company is hurt financially, they increase prices. When a phone company increased prices, those increases are spread among other subscribers.

It's an arbitrary line to draw. Even though a fraud may be two steps removed from individual harm, it still can cause individual harm.

[–]sobulbous 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I tried to make the same point awhile ago. Loss prevention is a behemoth; whether you are stealing from a conglomerate or a mom and pop it always gets passed down to the consumer.

[–]oxygen-team[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

True story. But this is also the case when you sell drugs. Let's say the drugs user is a pregnant woman? Difficult...

[–]o98d38838d3 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You cant draw that parallel, fraud is intentional harm inflicted onto others for personal gain, it is an act of violence. Drug abuse is harm inflected onto oneself, the only case where drug dealing is unethical is when said drugs are tainted or mislabeled.

edit: oh i c what you did there, what if one conjoined twin was a junkie and the other not

[–]oxygen-team[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Understand your point... What would you allow?

[–]zito2494 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Hm ok I was only thinking on the vain of financial fraud, I guess. ID's are a good point.

[–]oxygen-team[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I do agree, we wanna be a market that doesnot harm anybody. So thats why weapons are not allowed. Fraud is allowed but we are having some doubts.

[–]lavishisabitch 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It would be great if you excluded fraud. I don't think it's much of a money maker anyways and you would win some points with people who hate it, which might get you popular quicker.

[–]chrisname -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Well you're not gonna be able to list many products if your goal is to genuinely develop a market which doesn't harm anybody. I don't know exactly how much harm e.g. cocaine trafficking causes but I'd bet everything I have that it's a non-zero amount of harm.

[edit] Not to mention the harm caused to pharmaceutical companies and therefore their customers (which may be public health services, thus distributing the harm to all tax payers involved that economy) when pharmaceuticals are "diverted".

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True story. For now we leave it as is.

[–]gerundive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then only the phone company is hurt.

Not really. Either the phone company is insured against fraud, or it adjusts its prices to cover the costs of dealing with it. As with most/all "victimless fraud", it's the people who can least afford it who end up suffering.

[–]throwahooawayyfoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But what's saying they'll only use that fake id to get a phone subscription? What's stopping them from taking that fake id and using it to buy a gun at a gun show?

[–]CumberlandGap 2 points3 points  (0 children)

that's bullshit logic, fraud hurts everyone. either ban it or allow it, no half ass pseudo high mindedness

[–]Costello_Elvis 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Sorry, but you are a proven scammer. You just scammed people here "1. Security specialists. 2. Developers frontend and backend. 3 DBA-er 4 Tester" Who the fuck have this Microsoft tech team and use the fucked up , insecure ready-to-use Bitwasp?

Even if it were custom code, no experienced programmer needs such team.

By the way Bitwasp should be banned from this community, Bloomsfield is using it and is listed in the Marketplace List. Someone who uses Bitwasp has no idea of what he is doing , no idea of opsec and all the technology, also it is as easy to a scammer to put a market online as it gets.

[–]oxygen-team[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

We are not scammers. All people in the team have multiple expertise, so the team isn't that big.

We don't use bitwasp.

[–]Costello_Elvis 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Alright WOMEN ONLY MARKET, i am of those who receive your letter.

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not our letter.

[–]throwahooawayyfoe 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Who says they're using Bitwasp? Have you looked at their source code?

[–]Costello_Elvis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can tell from other aspects, i may post it if i have time.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

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good chuckle. Also thanks for not making your captcha a mess of lines and swirls that are apparently supposed to be letters and numbers

[–]1percentof1 27 points28 points  (3 children)

This comment has been overwritten.

[–]oxygen-team[S] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

We are here for the long term.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (29 children)

Is there a vendor bond?

[–]oxygen-team[S] 1 point2 points  (28 children)

No there is not. just a 4% fee for a deal paid by the seller after the funds are received.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (8 children)

Why didn't you name it carbon?

[–]oxygen-team[S] 7 points8 points  (6 children)

because the UI is grey? Without telling to much about the internal system. But one of the principles we use is Object Oriented, or OO -> O2.

[–]Spoogly 2 points3 points  (29 children)

Wait, aren't you the people who were sending out messages to vendors claiming to be a women's only market? ...have any proof that you're genuine? Why should we go to you over other markets?

I realize that you have multisig, could you explain how your method works? As I understand it, there is still an issue of multisig not being properly implemented by any of the markets that have it.

[–]oxygen-team[S] 2 points3 points  (24 children)

I've never heard of it and we are certainly not...

The multisig works as follows:

  1. The buyer selects MultiSig escrow when he/she wants to buy something. The buyer is asked for a public-btc-key.
  2. The seller can accept /reject the order. When the seller accepts the seller needs to provide a public-btc-key as well.. (together a the profits btc-address).
  3. The markets generates a multisig-address with the public keys of the market, the seller and the buyer, it's a 2/3 multisig address.
  4. The markets sends the instructions (redeem script/multisig address and instructions) to the seller and buyer.
  5. When the funds are received on the multig address (because the buyer sent them) the order will be proccessed as normal.

....

6 last step is, when the product is received, the market asks for the private keys of the seller and buyer as well.. then the funds of the multisig address will be sent to the profits address of the seller.

[–]Spoogly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sounds very similar to what BlackBank does, so there's that. The market appears to still have control of all wallets used in the transaction, though, so I'm inclined to believe that funds still can't be released if the market is down, is that a correct assumption?

One other thing, though I'm a bit less concerned by this: In step 6, you request both the seller and the buyer's private keys for the transaction. Is there a particular reason that the transaction is not simply signed by the buyer and the market when the buyer selects to finalize? I don't think there's any good reason to release private keys to the market, and I especially don't see a reason to have both seller and buyer release their keys, if it's a 2 of 3 transaction.

[–]lesmannedvehicle 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Why do you ask the priv key from the buyer and also the vendor? Having the vendor's priv key is all you need to release the funds from the escrow address, using 2 of the 3 keys (Vendor's , market's)

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah correct ask the buyer and seller for their private key, if one is there we complete the deal.

[–]Hank_Vendor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

and is this "profits address" one of three that the vendor supplies?

or one of yours, that isn't actually an address, but a representation of one, while you hold all the coins for us, and we have to request to withdraw our own money??

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When accepting the vendor needs to provide the profits address. So the funds are directly sent to the seller if the deal is complete.

[–]sharpshooter789 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Does the buyer have to deposit funds onto your site to fund the multi sig address or can this be done with a third party wallet?

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The buyer can send the funds to the multisig address using a third party wallet. If you use multisig you don't need a balance on Oxygen.

[–]sharpshooter789 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perfect. Your market sounds very promising and you sound complement. Also, after hearing the explanation for the name I love it.

[–]DOZENS_OF_BUTTS 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I am so confused. Why the fuck would you need a buyer or vendor's ECDSA private key? Only an idiot would give up something like that. Literally the entire point of a private key is to keep it private and never give it out.

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is how it works, if you buy something through multisig escrow then oxygen will generate a bitcoin-multisig-address. This generation is based on three public keys, that of the market, the buyer and the seller. So both the buyer and the seller must generate a bitcoin-keypair. Oxygen asks them to provide the public keys.

If the address is then generated the buyer will be instructed to deposit the bitcoins on the bitcoin-multisig-address.

The bitcoins that bitcoin-multisig-address can now only be redeemed with two of the three private keys, this is enforced by the bitcoin network.

At the time the deal is completed, the market needs one additional private key in order to send the bitcoins to the profits address of the seller.

The keypairs are no longer necessary and should not be reused.

[–]radium_fire 0 points1 point  (3 children)

yes, there was an promo or ad message posted a few days ago calling Oxygen a "women's DNM" and I immediately wrote this shit off.

[–]Spoogly -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I looked back at the post, and it looks like that was someone making fun of them, but the point he makes about them having an automatic transfer of listings from Agora does stand out as something not so trustworthy. That, coupled with their not answering my other post (but answering similar, but less vague ones posted after mine) leads me to believe either they aren't completely prepared to operate as a market, or they are doing something less than trustworthy. I'd hold off on using them until we can verify that their multisig implementation (at the least) is something to be trusted. Having to hand over multisig private keys (and thus, only using a pub/priv key pair once per transaction) seems very concerning to me. Transaction signing is the default way of handling multisig, and it seems very strange to do otherwise. In addition, in the case that the transaction goes well, there's no reason for the mediator to be involved, even if they're acting in escrow. The only time a mediator gets involved is in dispute resolution, in a properly implemented multisig escrow. If there's another method being implemented here, I'd like to at the very least hear the design rationale behind it.

Maybe I'm asking more than we've asked of previous markets, but I think these are the sorts of things we should be asking as we move forward.

[–]radium_fire 0 points1 point  (1 child)

the no-password listing migration from Agora is weird-sounding. I don't know what impact it actually would have on opsec, but I'm already sketched out that I have the same (vendor) identity on two different sites. I sure wouldn't want to forgo using two different complex passwords. This site seems to emphasize convenience and automation over everything else, especially the things we really care about.

[–]Spoogly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Original post I linked to doesn't mention whether they ask for a password. I guess my issue with that is that you could have it migrate anyone's listings. There's something to be said for making someone do things by hand. Scammers are gonna happen, who just copy your listings to somewhere else, but if they have to do it by hand, then there will at least be a few who decide it's not worth the effort. If it doesn't require a password, then that's great, but it also seems unfair to Agora, because then they are using a buyer (or vendor) account to scrape Agora's data. I'm not going to argue ethics here, but if I were Agora, I'd try my damnedest to make sure that account and any other like it gets killed with prejudice. Bad for server loads.

I'll agree, they do seem to focus on ease of use/convenience. I wouldn't find that bad, if it didn't appear as if their opsec concern is lacking.

[–]bigtimetimmyjim22 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So no deposit or wd fees?

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correct.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Until you have the option for dispaly currency in BTC it's kind of useless. When I create listings I don't create them in USD I create them in BTC. Change this.

[–]oxygen-team[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay.... we will add this.

[–]sobulbous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you set the price in USD then the BTC price will fluctuate accordingly. If you set the price in BTC it won't be a floating price.

[–]keseysdayglobus 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I really like the layout, which has an Evolution feel to it (I don't think that is a bad thing because they had the best one in my opinion). I hope more vendors set up on there.

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We hope so too.

[–]Rektuhm 2 points3 points  (21 children)

So if I wanted to establish a vendor account as an essay writer this would be acceptable fraud in your market?

[–]oxygen-team[S] 2 points3 points  (20 children)

Good example of something that doesnot 'hurt' anybody directly. Yeah it's acceptable for us.

[–]Rektuhm 0 points1 point  (19 children)

This is good news. Here's hoping my team and I are ready before you start charging vendor bonds :p

[–]oxygen-team[S] -1 points0 points  (18 children)

We 're not planning to charge vender bonds...

[–]LONDON-UNDERGROUND 6 points7 points  (7 children)

Hello mate,

Can you explain the logic in not charging a vendor bond?

Only reason can be to encourage vendors to join. But you need to rethink this.

All that will happen is scammers will copy and paste adverts and pics from real vendors and ask people to fe. This is what happens at Alphabay due to free vendor accounts...

Proper vendors dont give a shit about paying a bond - just introduce it.

Cheers,

L-U

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Hi ,

The only logic is that we want to give 'starting vendors' a change. We don't allow FE...

But we will take a closer look what happens at Alphabay.

Kind Regards!

[–]LONDON-UNDERGROUND 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Dude, if a "vendor" doesnt have a couple hundred bucks for a bond, they are obviously in no position to vend...

So there is no FE? - Earlier you said "you advise buyers never to FE".

Can you clarify pls

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yeah so what I mean is : We don't allow it but it is technically possible. A buyer can directly after the object is received mark it as received.

What if we make this only possible after 3/4 of the shipping time?

[–]LONDON-UNDERGROUND 0 points1 point  (1 child)

no bond = no FE

bond = you can ask for fe

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Going for the first option will also the exit-scammers. But it will probably also scare some good sellers....

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

We don't allow FE...

This is not okay as a standalone statement, but even doubly so if this is how you are going to prevent scammers with a no vendor bond.

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We get a lot of message about no vendor bond, we might reconsider it....

[–]Aluminum_Foil_Hat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No vendor bonds mean I can put up listings. I am in no way capable of vending on a market. I can barely form a coherent thought on reddit.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

You need to charge "vendor" bonds or you'll get a bunch of morons who use your site. If you can't afford at least $100 to start a shop then you're a bum.

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Okay we had many of the same comments. We will take a close look whats happening to Alpha bay and consider.

If blocking FE will not work we will introduce a vendor bond.

Thanks for your input!. @Others How do other people feel about this?

Thanks!

[–]kNOwagora 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why not just make vendors that can FE hold a vendor bond for their largest FE listing, this way they get their cash pronto. But if the customer gets burned, you have their funds to give back in bond.

On the other side of the coin make it all escrow orders with no prior market feedback for the vendor, unable to make listings above~$250-~$500, until 100 positive transactions, then bumps it up.

Otherhyoptheticalsiuation::::I'd really love to start vending but honestly don't want to start on the biggest market online. I want to move somewhere small then grow with my customers so I don't take on too much at once? How else do you grow rep? Pay to be on a website with almost the same vendor fee as Agora with less than half the chance of sales?

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

We are thinking of making it impossible to mark an item as received before it can be received....

[–]throwahooawayyfoe 0 points1 point  (3 children)

So, like, putting an automatic 4-5 day hold on the transaction before the funds can be released at all?

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like an idea...

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Your idea has been implemented now.

[–]OZillicitservices 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This will hurt and probably prevent the big vendors from migrating to oxygen. I guess we'll see!

[–]Rektuhm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah for the time being. However Astrid was planing on taking a break without burning the world around her. Sometimes plans change. No offense intended, just playing around a bit

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

somehow i was expecting something with the "O² can do" slogan.

jarre is much better than that

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha hell yeah!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

change the name to YOINK

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hmmmmm why?

[–]HulkVsMeth 2 points3 points  (14 children)

Why not allow guns? There is no market for legit arms vendors. Agora is one market that never up and is slowly making us gun guys run into the negitive :/. I'm just saying why not corner the weapons market? Cost the arms dealers a premium vendor bond price for your risk and to let them work. Just my opinion to help make your site stand out. Fraud is a interesting scary thing.... I know for a fact cause I use the fraud vendors and a fake ID is just as useful as a bank account

[–]oxygen-team[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Maybe another market can pick up guns, we will not.

[–]HulkVsMeth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fair enough, I'm just asking why not? I have asked allot of the of the smaller markets

[–]zito2494 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Theres no benefit to selling guns but profit, however you have to consider to morality of it...95% of people looking to buy guns off the internet arent looking to use it for positive means.

[–]HulkVsMeth -1 points0 points  (6 children)

I mean people like y'all say drugs are a victim less crime unless people resell.... Iv watched my homeboys sell a point of china #4 and the guy snorts it and OD's an this is darknet dope so guns harm people yes but so can drugs. Profit is why vendors sell or you wouldn't see any big name vendors

[–]zito2494 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Yeah but the customer is willingly making a choice to purchase these substances...no individual chooses to be defrauded or to have their identity stolen.

[–]HulkVsMeth 0 points1 point  (4 children)

That is very true, but my whole point of the guns was for this market to stand out not just take a number and wait tell a big name market exit scams so the refugees hopefully pick there market. It happens everytime.

[–]zito2494 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Are there not markets that sell ONLY guns? I think its a little unfair to pin it on a market admin to make his drug market ALSO include guns. As mentioned before, it's such an unnecessary feature that adds so much unwanted attention (from LE and users). If it's such an issue go create your own market to buy guns from, don't criticize someone else's business.

[–]HulkVsMeth 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Lol I am in the process of that and I'm not criticizing his market an by the way this is darknet!!! That means if there is fraud allowed why not guns? There are no trusted sites sellin guns. I have my own connect for guns I wanna vend them again

[–]zito2494 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm a little intrigued, you said vend again? You have in the past? What was your success with shipping like? US or Int'l? And what kind of wares/prices? Ive never heard of a legit weapons buyer or seller so im curious.

[–]HulkVsMeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sr1 days my friend, USA is no issue I won't send to netherlands or Aussies but my rating was 94% from glocks to m-16,Ak-47s. When you live in a state with hella lose gun laws, guns are like selling drugs just not as popular

[–]shoelace120 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Why not just send some email invites to the ATF, DEA, and other law enforcement operations while you are at it...

[–]HulkVsMeth -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

They are already looking at the market already.... Don't be so dumb to think they new the day this site was up.

[–]shoelace120 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Sure, but the trafficking of firearms brings a whole new element to things.

[–]HulkVsMeth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

ATF? Well you got the DEA and FBI and homeland security looking right at you so, why not ATF?

[–]Ishvnik 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Think you could remedy this clutter?

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah I can... need to make it better responsive! will do that next week.

[–]Vendor_BBMC 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Its not so that we object to forgers and carders listing as vendors as such. Its just an indication of whether you think fraud is acceptable business practice.

Because most marketplaces have defrauded users, and now that bitcoin theft is easier than creditcard fraud, we see carding sites suddenly inviting bitcoin-spending drug shoppers in. They can't believe that they can get untraceable bitcoin without even needing a name and address.

Best to keep drugs and fraud separate in an anonymous, consequence-free environment. Carders would be happier on alphabay. Onsite PGP is just a way of getting fullz to sell later

The three things I'm looking for, as a vendor, are:-

a. AUTOMATED WITHDRAWALS / NO ONSITE VENDOR WALLET

The (Ross) Silk Road sent vendors our bitcoin the moment a customer finalized, to up to 3 wallets of our choice (offsite). That's how we knew he had no intention of robbing us.

There is no point in a fancy escrow, if it just empties into a wallet that the site controls.

b. NO RELIANCE ON THE VENDOR'S ONSITE MAILBOX FOR ORDERS

I like how every order has its own mailbox on agora, keeping all instructions in one place. Our main mailbox just acts as a spam folder, because the only people who send message s to it are cranks, psychos, other vendors playing games, blackmailers, and users called "Agora_admin"

C. A SIMPLE ESCROW THAT PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY USE. WITH A REPLY TO USER OR VENDOR MESSAGES WITHIN 24 HOURS, AND ADMINS WHO CAN SPOT AN OBVIOUS SCAMMER

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a) We support multisig. If you use that you don't need money on your Oxygen account. You need to deposit it to the multisig bitcoin address thats generated for you when you buy something.

b) We are going to implement something to fast find guys that use the message system to scam/blackmail and so on. Automated mails are blocked because of the captcha. The system never uses the message system it uses notifications which other users cannot send.

c) We will handle support tickets and disputes within 24 hours. This is our dispute system: http://postimg.org/image/yh24m94rh/

[–]Hank_Vendor 0 points1 point  (3 children)

hi, hank here, big fan of the show....

a few questions if I may.

1) do you have auto withdrawal? (if 'no' go to question 2) 2) do you plan to have auto withdrawal? (if 'yes' go to question 3) 3) when do you think you may have auto withdrawal?

and some comments if I may. auto withdrawal will bring all the top vendors and thus all the buyers that come with them within weeks.

why do vendors need an online wallet? we aren't allowed to purchase off markets. there is no reason whatsoever for it, other than - "well we want to nick all the bitcoin eventually, don't we"

also, fraud.. why would you even be discussing it. you said yourself your mission is to make it as easy and safe as possible for adults to buy drugs.

allowing the media to further characterise DarkNet markets as a safe haven for identity thieves, fraudsters, and make believe hidden; is only going to hinder your mission.

furthermore, I like the idea of this automatic migration business... pics too?

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I can see the need for sellers for autowithdrawal. We will implement, it will be implemented next week.

http://postimg.org/image/5vyvlnfj7/

[–]Hank_Vendor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wow!!

.... UK mum loses s stone and a half in a month!

also, excellent. thanks. I'm on board

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your idea of auto withdrawal. It's implemented.

[–]deaftones2 0 points1 point  (1 child)

4% seems a bit high to me. How about a nice round 2%?

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about 3%?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

If you guys had no FE i would use your site so much

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

FE is not allowed at our market and next week we have a 4 days delay before a buyer can mark the order as received.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hell ya well you'll be seeing a lot of me then! Finally a market that cares about its buyers!!!!

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good to hear that!

[–]RantingDrugUser 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You'll lose basically the entire Australian domestic market then. All of my 10+ domestic orders have come in <48 hours via express post.

Enticing vendors to your market is going to be the toughest thing for you, I really don't understand why you're making it harder for yourself. Your market, your loss.

[–]postmort3m-o2 0 points1 point  (2 children)

still can't put up a listing it all just goes to inactive wtf

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me check it for you!

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've added a warning now. http://i.imgur.com/xNrP2GT.png

[–]BrianSpots 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Guys I think ultimately we just need to take our chances... A vendor on Oxygen, stewieblazed, has previously sold me the best hash I have ever smoked... just placed another order woohoo ! Trusted vendors matter... Great job, Oxygen... keep working to make your market better :)

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks!!!

[–]sickko2323 0 points1 point  (2 children)

When trying to sign up there capcheta is always wrong or so claims the website even though the correct capcheta is always entered correctly

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmmm it's a bitch the captcha mechanism... I'm thinking about a better solution. Just tried it myself and it seems to work okay for me. Please make sure you've only one tab open and Try first refreshing the login page. The captcha contains numbers and letters, it's not case sensitive.

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmmm it's a bitch the captcha mechanism... I'm thinking about a better solution. Just tried it myself and it seems to work okay for me. Please make sure you've only one tab open and Try first refreshing the login page. The captcha contains numbers and letters, it's not case sensitive.

[–]JATA12 -2 points-1 points  (14 children)

your site is fucked. you sell things like LOCALBITCOIN SCAMMING. and its obviously bitwasp. didnt even hide it well. go fuck yourselves

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shut the fuck up and go bitch somewhere else.

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are not selling ourselves.

[–]oxygen-team[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is no bitwasp. It's fully custombuild.

[–]throwahooawayyfoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

who says it's bitwasp? have you looked at their source code? there are these things called called custom style sheets. you can make anything look like anything with them.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

all these cunts bitching about fraud wah wah wah

[–]gerundive -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yeh right how are we supposed to rip the fuckers off if the cunts won't let us on the markets

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