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[–]BoxoMorons 19 points20 points  (1 child)

i would buy some...

[–]holymolyricearony[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I would too, which is why I got to thinking about this in the first place. My price would be as cheap as it would make economic sense to sell it, certainly cheaper than you can get it online or at a specialty butcher (deer are cheap, they cost <$1 for a bullet + approx $80 if you want somebody to process it for you). I'm trying to work out the numbers right now, but I figure it's possible to sell it cheaper (even including shipping + my time, especially for jerky) than anywhere else you could buy it legally.

The problem is that to sell venison in the US (to the best of my knowledge) you basically have to fence off a couple of square miles of woodland with 18ft high fences (deer can jump really high) to isolate them from the wild population. Then you have to have absurdly expensive commercial equipment, licences, and inspections, not to mention maintenance and security, insurance, etc. to have your meat USDA approved. All this hassle and capital investment means that deer is way more expensive than cow and most people don't eat it.

The FDA/fish and wildlife/whatever actually send undercover agents to processing centers and hunting clubs and all sorts of places to try to buy meat and bust people and if they catch you, they'll seriously drop the hammer. If you don't believe me try buying some local venison sometime and see the reaction you get (I'm speaking from experience). If you don't have the hook up it's easier for the average person to buy weed.

Unless of course, you're willing to pay $7 lb + shipping for ground, and much more for steaks/roasts. I'm not talking about poaching deer; everything is legal about what I have in mind except for the commercial transaction part of it.

EDIT: clarity and elaboration, I moved this post

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    [–]holymolyricearony[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Thanks, great answer.

    [–]osnapitsjoeyWHAT IS THIS 8 points9 points  (2 children)

    venison jerky is sooooo good. im game

    [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    haha, get it, GAME?

    [–]osnapitsjoeyWHAT IS THIS 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    this guy^

    [–]Freeman650 5 points6 points  (4 children)

    There is a foods section on SR, along with all sorts of stuff- weapons, forgeries, books, porn, electronics, etc. All you have to do is pay 150$ to become a vendor. Get tor working and the road will show you everything you need to know about vendoring and feedback.

    [–]bday420 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    you can no longer sell or buy weapons (guns) on the SR. They closed down the section called the armory some time ago. Just FYI. you can read about it if you go to the SR homepage and click the link that says Armory now closed, links you to a forum post talking about it.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Everything was wayyyy overpriced anyway. $50 for for 50 .22 rounds that would cost me $3 in store, and it's an anonymous purchase anyway? No thanks.

    [–]bday420 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Yeah doesn't make much sense for ammo, but for a burner or something it would probably be worth the money. Not that I would know anything about that. Plus there are other sites where weapons trading and 'contracts' are still available.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Guns were ridiculous as well, and it's very easy to buy a gun anonymously.

    [–]retroracer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    you should try bitmit. it's an auction site that uses bitcoin

    [–]samx3i 3 points4 points  (6 children)

    Food is actually a category.

    Here, I took a screen shot so you can see the menu. Yes, it's mostly drugs, and that's mostly what people go there for, but the people behind Silk Road have a broader vision in mind where it becomes a global blackmarket where you can get anything, venison included.

    CLICK HERE.

    Good luck, man.

    [–]holymolyricearony[S] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

    Nice! Thanks a bunch, screenshot and extra effort much appreciated.

    Mind checking out what's for sale in the food category for me?

    PS I love my Chromebook, but it's limited in many ways. 95% of everything I want to do on a computer is covered by my high speed web browsing machine, but as my interest in computers and other subjects grows, I've been thinking about buying a second computer to handle the stuff my open source netbook can't.

    [–]samx3i 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    Sure, I'll help you out. Give me 5 minutes.

    EDIT: Seems to be just these four obscure "banned" products: CLICK ME.

    [–]holymolyricearony[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Huh... I kinda figured that the silk road would have organic honey or raw milk or something. Obscure is certainly an accurate word to describe that selection. Oh well, that's where anonymous bitcoin advertising makes itself useful...

    Thanks for the help, much appreciated. Based on the info you've given me, it seems that silk road isn't necessarily the ideal place to sell food items, it seems to be nothing but a hive of scum and villany... (just kidding, I use and enjoy drugs myself)

    I can see by now that I need to get TOR and get in the game ASAP.

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Good job on showing your username. This can possibly link a reddit user to SR and a SR forum user. Could be you made a new account of course, but every vendor can check your stats. Depending on how active you and if you are not that careful on other sites as well, this could easily make you target (for evil wrongdoes, don't think the DEA would bother).

    [–]samx3i 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    A target for what? I'm not doing anything illegal. You don't even know that the screen shot was of my account.

    Plausible deniability. Knowledge of the legal system will make you much less paranoid.

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      [–]holymolyricearony[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Excellent point, I didn't even think about dogs. However, it's perfectly legal to send meat of any sort through the mail, the illegal part is the selling of wild game that hasn't been approved by the state. I figure no return address, no problems.

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        [–]holymolyricearony[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Google it man, the price per lb will make your head spin. I figure I can undercut any other commercially available source, still working out the numbers to see what my costs would be though.

        EDIT: It's like $40 per lb. easy.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        if you're computer savvy, try installing Tails to a flash drive. then you can just boot into Tails and be set

        [–]Tipsy_Gnostalgic 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        Sounds like an interesting business idea, you might want to check on the forums first, see if you can generate some interest. Are you planning on shipping international? Within the states (or your country) it would be easy enough to ship, but once you ship international you have to deal with customs. So yea I would check the laws on that, especially for Europe.The other problem might be shipping, but if you dry it into jerky it would weigh less so you could save on shipping.

        You were asking about other underground markets, there might be other similar serves on the Hidden Wiki. No clue on how one would go about starting up a shop on there, but I'm sure it's possible. Good luck and I hope you keep us updated.

        [–]holymolyricearony[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Thanks, do you know if there are any traffic statistics available for silk road? You're probably right in that I'd be initially limited to US customers, international shipping is not an insurmountable problem but it's not one that I want to deal with initially. Is the silk road user base primarily European?

        [–]Tipsy_Gnostalgic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        no clue about statistics, sorry. the majority of sellers are from the USA, so it might be a fair assumption to think most buyers are from here too. it really depends on the item, for instance most MDMA seems to come from Scandinavian countries, most weed from USA.

        There are a few chans that you can access using tor, they might know about other sites you can sell your product on

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        You can check out Silk Road (or any other dark web hosted site, the urls
        end with .onion) by adding .to at the end. Like y0urhidd3nsit3asdfg.onion/somepage.php => y0urhidd3nsit3asdfg.onion.to/somepage.php

        this will redirect you to a proxy service (they own the domain onion.to) that will let you connect to the darkweb without using TOR. This should only be used "read-only" (or for educational purposes) as it compromises security of course. Read the warning once you connect. Sometimes I use it to check if the forum is up.

        Having said that, it sounds like an awesome idea. I am no big fan of meat, but if I eat some (and cook it myself) I try to get best quality meat not the mass-produced shit sold in supermarkets. Like yours basically. Wouldn't order since I am not from US, and I would be paranoid about quality and freshness.

        But you get the award for best new business idea on SR for 2012!

        [–]holymolyricearony[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Wow thanks! I just checked out SR for the first time using your method.

        [–]TheSelfGoverned 0 points1 point  (5 children)

        I would suggest adding yourself to this:

        https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade#Consumable

        SR is designed for illicit trade.

        [–]holymolyricearony[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

        Thank you, but selling venison is actually illegal unless you have a very expensive permission slip from the state. I'd rather avoid any problems from the revenuers entirely. Where I live, we have so many deer that they're actually a nuisance.

        [–]TheSelfGoverned 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        I'd rather avoid any problems from the revenuers entirely.

        And you will. Just refrain from labeling your packaging and you're golden.

        [–]holymolyricearony[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

        Haha in my daydreams I've already built up a brand name! I'll wear fingerprint-proof gloves when I slap my name-brand sticker on it. I'd never sell a product I didn't stand by. Anonymous reputation, the entire point of silk road of course.

        EDIT: elaboration

        [–]TheSelfGoverned 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        The brand name and logo is fine, but leave out the address. =)

        [–]holymolyricearony[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Word

        [–]chrubuntu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        what model chromebook? Google chrubuntu. You can run tor after booting from ubuntu.

        [–]MaximusQuackhandle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I want some wild venison jerky...

        [–]mrsudo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        surely alot of linux distros must be able to be installed on your chromebook, and the tor bundle is available for linux.

        [–]Estermareman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Look into installing liberte, a Linux flavor on your chromebook.

        Edit: dee.su/liberte

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Anybody interested in homemade venison jerky or other venison products?

        Do it. I love that shit.

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