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[–]darknetextortion[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ha!

[–]sharpshooter789 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I thought that would be common sense. But I guess not.

[–]the-hobgoblin 10 points11 points  (5 children)

This scam does work and works well unfortunately. There's also quite a number of them that worked in the past. Worst of all, the scammers actually do follow through on occasion to SWAT the buyer or otherwise ruin people's lives with the information they have on the buyer. Coachella was one such scammer that called the police on a buyer he was extorting that thought he could call his bluff and a SWAT team came to their house.

On SR1, there was a seller of meth that called the cops on a buyer. Vortexmilkman was his name.

None of your information is safe. PGP doesn't mean as much as you think. For instance, Blue Giraffe on SR1 kept a huge, plaintext list of clients names and addresses which he/they said was done to make it easier to know who bought what and to reward frequent buyers. The list was leaked out. A lot of vendors keep names and addresses. Or some who use drop-shippers obviously send the drop-shipper your name and address in clear text. One such case was when the drop-shipper a vendor was using started contacting buyers directly in an effort to cut out the middle man, AKA the vendor.

There is no safe way to buy drugs. It's all about how much you are willing to risk in the process. If you have an online social presence that matches the name you used with the address you gave the vendor, you're playing Russian roulette.

Of course it's a crime to extort, but the scammers aren't worried about that and neither are the vendors who do it since it is extremely difficult to catch them. Plus, you can't exactly explain to the authorities why they are extorting you. After all, you were buying drugs.

Don't forget that the authorities can and do use confidential informants to buy or sell drugs. Don't think so? Read the indictments that were posted about several drug dealers on SR who were busted with the help of CIs.

Nope, the small time buyer isn't safe from anything at all. The idea that you're buying personal use quantities makes you safe is a false assurance. You're exactly who an agent wants to turn into a confidential informant that they can lawfully use and abuse.

PGP strength is irrelevant if you're sending messages to a turned vendor who's working as a confidential defendant or informant.

Bitcoins are pseudo-anonymous. There are a set of circumstances that deanonymize the sender and/or recipient. Obviously if you are sending them to a CI or CD, mixing, tumbling, etc is irrelevant. It may only conceal the exact source but does nothing to protect you from being implicated in a buy when you are buying from a busted vendor or CI/CD.

Doom and gloom. Yep. So what's the solution? It's like sex and relationships. The only way to completely avoid catching an STD or getting your heart broken is to not have sex and not have any relationships. But that won't do because just like sex and relationships, you're drawn to buying and using drugs.

The only thing you can do to try to protect yourself is to not be yourself when buying drugs. A drop and a fake name is essential to max security. The key is how to create and use a fake name and associate the fake name to the drop.

Sorry to disappoint you but those details you will have to think about and figure out on your own. It's not that hard to do. But once you figure it out, it's better than plausible deniability. It's actual deniability. And once you figure it out, don't post it publicly. Instead send private messages if you want to help someone else figure it out.

I warned a poster I chatted with in the past about PillBoxy. Did he listen? No. Is he in a very rough spot? Yes. What was the first clue? No real seller would list those kinds of quantities for sale publicly. That's just asking LE to take a VERY keen interest in them and anyone who would buy from them. There's no such thing as personal use quantities of schedule II and III drugs and substances in the US. Buy enough of them and they catch you, they will slap you upside the head with an intent to distribute charge. Which is a separate charge from the first obvious charge of buying illegal drugs. They can also slap you with all kinds of conspiracy charges. All these charges are serious because they are all Federal charges. Each charge adds years to your sentence if convicted.

Be safe people. Love yourselves.

And to those who got scammed, my heart goes out to you. Being scammed doesn't mean you're stupid. It means you trust and believe in the goodness of humanity. You just forgot that not everyone is good and some are actually out to harm you. I wish you the very best and if you think you might need a lawyer, you should start looking for one just in case. Things can move fast once the SHTF. Fortune favors the prepared.

[–]IGetDankShit 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Reddit admins shadowbanned you for some reason. Log out and check your user profile - it doesn't exist to anyone but you. I had to manually approve your post before it would show. You can contact them to appeal it.

[–]the-hobgoblin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you for doing that. You turned what could have been a waste of my time into something that might help another or light a spark in their mind.

I got shadowbanned for outing scamming vendors on SR2 and Sheep. I guess that's what happens when one of the admins was in league with the scammers.

Not sure how to appeal the ban. Not that it matters really. I can just start a new account. I have no particular affinity to the username. I only have an affinity to the truth and helping people avoid getting harmed by bad actors. We come here to share knowledge and have each others backs.

You're a good soul. Keep keepin' on.

[–]Miz_pizzyizz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great post.

Everything in the Pillboxy post screamed "Scam!" Not surprised at all by the scam, thought scam would be obvious to all, and am a bit surprised that folks actually took the bait.

[–]Astrid_IS_Fashion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thank you for posting this, you are a very kind person. Safe travels, friend.

[–]Thefuckmans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coachella called the cops on Jasper, because Jasper was trying to extort him for bad feedback over a free sample coachella did not mail fast enough.

I hate how twisted the truth of this story has ended up. I remember it happening. Coachella called Jaspers local PD and reported someone at Jaspers residence jerking off with the door open, and trying to make eye contact with people. You act like Coachella has power to send a swat team full of armed police officers to someones house on demand.

Moral of the story? Don't give a drug dealer you address, then slander him a few days later over a free samples delivery time.

[–]AdjunctSocrates 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Remember, the only thing you should ever say to cops: I want to talk to my lawyer. Otherwise, for goodness sake, shut up.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Do people really think dea is gonna call and bribe them?

[–]darknetextortion[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Once you plant the seed of an idea in a person's mind (losing everything, going to jail), there is no telling what they will do to get out of it. Who knows, maybe its a crooked cop making some quick cash that has the ability to do this.

[–]py3 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Must be on drugs or something....

(joking)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hahaa

[–]Reddit_SuckLeperCock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be fair, I've had a few 'cease and desist' letters from downloading torrents so it does happen.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can't believe people would fall for something like that, but it plays on peoples fears of getting caught so I can kind of see it.

Thanks for the detailed post. Will definitely be on the look out.

[–]NA1947PRO 2 points3 points  (0 children)

too sad reading things like this.

[–]Litecoin_Messiah 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow thanks for sharing this detailed post, Discussing with other mods about making this a sticky or at least adding it to the sidebar in the near future.

[–]masterbaexunn 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is why whenever possible, buy things from reputable sites or dealers ON THE CLEARWEB. I just saw a post on r/reloaded where the OP was asking for a hotel booking. If you're dealing with an unknown or unreputable source pay with a CC, so charges can be reversed if need be. Giving your info to some random entity on the darkweb should be done with caution, 99% of the time you'll have no recourse once you're fucked.

Edit: I know my comment is a bit off topic, but it pisses me off that people are that dumb... If a person claiming to be UC comes up to you in person, you'd want to see a badge or something. Why is it different on the phone? Caller ID spoofing is easy.

[–]Link_Correction_Bot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Excuse me if I am incorrect, but I believe that you intended to reference /r/reloaded.

[–]shitstormy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This begs the question, should stupid people be taking drugs?

[–]twigburst 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I've had online pharmacies try this shit before, I just told them to fuck off and hung up on them. Just don't have a dirty house and you won't have issues, DEA isn't going to kick your door down for an 8 ball of coke or an oz of weed.

[–]Beast0fBurden 1 point2 points  (1 child)

what if its for something else, but they only find an eight ball of coke or an oz of weed? :-/

[–]twigburst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They won't prosecute you federally for it, they would send case down to lower court. It happens a lot when people get busted catching packages cause that is a federal crime.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I gotta say it is quite something to watch all of this develop. It is like reading a good cyberpunk novel.

edit: i mean the entire darknet right now.

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