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[–]Bombay56 28 points29 points  (19 children)

This is fascinating because I myself noticed the same thing. Ive been micro dosing for the past 5 days from a 150ug blotter cut into eighths. Ive gotten to the point where the day seems so long I literally run out of things to do. Just like when you were a kid and you get that boring stretch in the afternoon. Its awesome to see that someone else is getting a similar effect.

Ive also been sleeping like a rock amd have had far more energy during the day. Its a bit like that nervous energy you get from a full dose but only enough that you just want to get up and move.

I can say after this experience I plan to do a longer trial soon, take it out a month or two, journal the whole thing a give you guys a full post on my experience.

[–]dynamictension 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I'd really like to try this as I function extremely well during trips post peak - any recommendations or advice?

[–]Bombay56 1 point2 points  (2 children)

One thing to keep in mind is that, at least at the dosages I'm using, there are no "apparent" effects. The first day I did get some of the classic side effects (phantom leg cramps, fidgety, coldness) for the first few hours of the day, but past day one I have zero discomfort. I have just been taking my little piece of blotter every morning with my vitamins. I think that next time I do this I may up the dosage a bit and see how that is. Assuming you will feel at least as good as I do, I say jump in and see what happens!

[–]Cidsations 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You just swallow it, or let it sit on your tongue like usual?

[–]Bombay56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always just swallow mine. It's worked well for me so I just skip the sublingual part.

[–]boomers-r-ur-friend 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Thanks for posting this. I've been thinking of trying this but was debating on doses. That seems like a pain to cut though, 1/8 of a 1/4" paper

[–]Bombay56 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They are pretty small haha

[–]boomers-r-ur-friend 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seems like getting liquid and diluting it would be easier. But much more expensive. I was surprised how much lsd costs per hit. But I guess shrooms aren't really much cheaper

[–]Cidsations 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Wow I was literally just telling my boyfriend we should try microdosing for a month and was just about to ask my favorite redditors about their experiences with it, only to find this post as the first top post on here. :D Sounds like the effects are amazing and worthwhile. Please share more details of your experiences. I'm very interested in trying this by morning. :)

[–]FISTED_GRANDPA 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Definitely worth the experience, I tried it for about a week. You can obviously function and drive and whatnot haha Try cutting a tab into 1/4 sections

[–]Cidsations 3 points4 points  (2 children)

So odd you mentioned driving. I was gonna ask if you can drive in my comment but didn't end up asking. This subreddit is in my head! We're all one right? :P lol. I'm gonna start on Monday. Get out of bed early, exercise, yoga, meditation, fruit etc. start the day right. :)

[–]FISTED_GRANDPA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol I read minds in my spare time. :P You'll definitely be good to drive, talk to non tripping people etc. you won't trip on a microdose, but you'll probably get a nice mood lift.

[–]zarmin 4 points5 points  (2 children)

this thread led me to a lot of reading on microdosing and i LOVE the concept. anyone have any other good experiences doing this?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. I micro-dosed about a week ago and thought this. The whole day was lovely, time was dilated and I felt clear headed and entirely normal besides a consistent euphoria. Considering the small amount I did (~1/5 of a tab or less), I didn't nearly expect it to be so enjoyable. If that experience was anything to judge by, I have to say micro-dose regimens must be a very effective mood booster.

[–]littlelibertine 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Wish I could try microdosing. Unfortunately, we've been awfully dry these past few months, which double sucks because it was my birthday two days ago and I really wanted to trip. :(

[–]Badass_moose 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Silk road

[–]littlelibertine 0 points1 point  (5 children)

?

[–]jimmycarr1 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Oh you're in for a treat my friend

[–]littlelibertine 1 point2 points  (1 child)

(or I would be, if the site would ever load ;p)

[–]jimmycarr1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah it goes down sometimes, but stick with it because it's by far worth it!

[–]well_thats_obvious 5 points6 points  (1 child)

This is a subreddit dedicated to the subject. It is an online anonymous marketplace.

[–]littlelibertine 8 points9 points  (0 children)

oh, God, that's amazing. thank you.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Anybody know if there have been clinical trials like this? Seems plausible but I'd want to know about tolerance build up and potential side effects.

[–]tarandfeathers[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Google seems to return lots of results for the query, I didn't dig for peer reviewed texts though.

[–]pgphelper 2 points3 points  (26 children)

Do you double the dose every day? i.e. 20 ug, 40u g, 80 ug

If not, is tolerance not a problem with microdosing?

[–]wsupduck 1 point2 points  (2 children)

With micro dosing there isn't a tolerance issue

[–]jimmycarr1 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Why is that?

[–]GiantKanen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

also curious

[–]element4l 1 point2 points  (15 children)

Tolerance develops as an attempt to counter-balance the effect of the drug. (As seen in experiments with morphine and pain-tolerance)

But theoretically, at low doses, there is no real toxicity perceived by the body, and no tolerence is developped.

This is all speculation of course, but I do study this stuff for a living.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (9 children)

I want your job.

[–][deleted]  (8 children)

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    [–]efeeney 2 points3 points  (5 children)

    look into interning for MAPS (multidisciplinary association of psychedelics research) (assuming you live in the US)

    [–]element4l 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    I've gotten in touch with them a few times, offering my service and whatnot. They're not particularly interested unless I'm willing to volunteer my time giving flyers away or to fly to the US and pay for tickets to their meetings. It's their way of telling me I'm worthless.

    I prefer to study on my own, anyway. It's a hobby as much as it is a lens to the world.

    [–]efeeney 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    How/what do you study on your own? if you don't mind me asking. I'm about to graduate undergraduate with a degree in psychology and am planning to go to graduate school to do research in psychedelics. It has not proven to be easy to find schools studying psychedelics and have been basically turned away by most advisors when I bring up my research interests.

    [–]element4l 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    I don't doubt you one bit. Publicly studying psychedelics has been called (by people at MAPS) the fastest way to kill a career. This has frightened me quite a bit.

    But what I cannot ignore is the intense insight this research (especially in combination with first hand experience) gives into psychology. The pharmacological bases of LSD's actions are absolutely deeply interwoven into society. I find so many fields relate to the knowledge I've gathered through psychedelia that I could make a career without ever mentioning psychedelics. Except that would be a shame. Let's hope the future is more kind to this field.

    I personally find the trivialising of psychedelics comes from the same ignorance that riddles those who infantillise psychology as a field. I think the rest of the stigma comes from two main sources: those who study seriously, and are skeptical (as I), and those who study seriously and need to justify their careers as greater than "just drugs". Just some sort of superiority complex.

    The biology of psychedelia gives tremendous insight into not only simple psychology, but also religion, social dominance, slavery, ignorance, art, motivation, attention, etc., etc., etc.

    Of course, I'm preaching to the choir here. But if you can understand how much impact both stress and influence have on civilizations, then you're in the right field.

    My advice to you is this: pick it up on the side, and use it to fuel your career from underneath. Be public about it, or don't. The reactions you're getting from advisors don't surprise me one bit. Trust your gut. Maybe approach your advisors with a different angle.

    It's practically a delicacy. I study it accordingly.

    As for what to study. Well. There is a ton. It really depends on your interests.

    As for scientific articles, there is a fair bit. People will tell you there are no human studies since the 70s, and that's true, but it doesn't mean there's no information (hint: there's plenty). Obviously, the serotonergic system. It's complex and not well understood, which makes it a perfect field to study (at least for an aspiring theoretician, like me) I will link you specific studies I've read if you're interested. Beyond that, I would recommend reading the old studies from the 50-70s, keeping your critical thinking in mind (though you'll have no problem with that, I'm sure) Then there's animal trials. All are equally important and each bring crucial pieces of the puzzle. David Nichols will give you the important pharmacological info so that you can begin associating it with other fields.

    Then, there's Huxley, Blake, McKenna, Ginsberg, Watts and all the rest, if literature interests you. I find a lot of insight comes from these writings. Just keep in mind their backgrounds. Huxley is extremely controversial (many claim he was a eugenics supporter). McKenna has some disproven theories and ideas, as well as some humanism and feminism. I would suggest you read study these authors' work in depth and understand what kind of politics they were involved in. Of course, if you want to know more, just ask. There is plenty.

    I do appologize if you were aware of a lot of this. I'm just trying to give a general outline and am speaking very abstractly. I have a tendency to do that because my interests are so broad. Please get back to me and I'd love to share specifics with you.

    [–]efeeney 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Thank you for such a detailed response, I did know much of it but it was still nice to hear from a different lens.

    Actually they are currently doing testing on humans. They are doing MDMA testing on PTSD patients at the University of South Carolina currently and they are also doing some interesting studies on mice at the University of Southern Florida.

    I'm not sure exactly what I am interested in pursuing but I am very passionate about psychedelics. I have a great interest in DMT but also know very little about it. I know ayahuasca is very helpful in curing addiction and I've seen the DMT: The Spirit Molecule documentary but I don't know much more than that.

    I personally suffer from major depression and PTSD and have seen psychedelics allow me to grow and progress away from such negativity in an extremely short amount of time (especially compared to therapy alone). I only wish my experiences (and the experiences of all of the psychedelic using population) could be grounds enough to allow some sort of trials.

    I have been having a very difficult time finding research labs to apply to assist at and graduate schools to apply to. It seems impossible to find any place that is even minutely geared to psychedelics research hear in the United States. I feel as though my only options are to go to Europe, and those options are limited as well.

    I can only hope that by the time I finish graduate school (~2019) there will be some advances into the field!

    I'd love to hear about any knowledge you have about programs, psychedelics themselves, your personal research or any interests you have! Feel free to PM me too!!

    [–]element4l 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    efeeney, you seem to have an avid interest in this topic (not just like some psychonaut drug user)

    Please give me a day or two to get my thoughts together and give you a proper response.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Haha I see. Nonetheless, please do well. The world needs good and forward-looking individuals who can secure a better and more deserved reputation for psychedelics like this one.

    [–]element4l 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Thank you, I do intend to.

    [–]pgphelper 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    What would you say the threshold is for a microdose vs a tolerance-building dose?

    [–]element4l 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    I can't give you any kind of accurate answer.

    Generally, the dose for someone to begin feeling an effect from LSD is 30-40µg, compared to placebo. Assuming there is an action below that threshold, I would say anything around the 20-30µg range is unlikely to produce any significant tolerance.

    From what I've read, many of the psychedelic progenitors of the 60s who studied at top universities would suggest microdosing. Though this is somewhat of an appeal to authority, I can't help but mention it.

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      [–]tarandfeathers[S] -4 points-3 points  (6 children)

      As far as I remember, lsd doesn't build tolerance.

      [–]pkScary 2 points3 points  (4 children)

      I've read to the contrary - supposedly it takes up to two weeks to return to baseline tolerance levels. However, I hope you're right.

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      that's after a trip though, not micro dosing. It would be interesting to see how tolerance builds with micro dosing.

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      I've read that microdosing does not build tolerance in the way that taking 100ug or more would do. I can't speak from experience, but I've really been wanting to try this.

      [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

      yea I mean, makes sense. If I took 50mg of adderol for a week I would develop higher tolerance than say 10mg for a month.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      yeah, but then again when you're talking about below threshold doses, a certain amount of placebo effect has to be taken into account.

      [–]The-GentIeman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It builds a huge tolerance.

      [–]mycelium_minded 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      What has your dosage been? I'm curious because I've thought about doing this but am reluctant that I may accidentally take too much or too little.

      [–]tarandfeathers[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      About 20 ug give or take (cutting chunks from a 200 blotter). I even cut two smaller pieces and take the second within 2 hrs.

      I've also noticed a way smaller need for tobacco and alcohol.

      [–]smokeylockbear420 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      medical studies I've read usually bring up how Acid is particularly good at treating alcoholism. But I kind of think that's because you're so fucking happy and mind-blown that you don't want or need anything else to make you feel happy or comfortable

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      i have heard it called a nootropic in low doses. would like to try it someday. also mescaline is very nice in low dose, like that mood lift from marijuana or a bit of mdma but without feeling "high".

      [–]efeeney 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Can you explain to me more about doing daily small doses? How much do you take? how do your perceptions change? What physical affects do you have? Any information would be great! I would be very interested in trying something like this!

      [–]FISTED_GRANDPA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      In my experience, I've cut up 100ug blotters into 1/4 tabs. I did this for a week, and doses everyday in the morning. For me, after about an hour I would get sorta excited/happy, music was nice, things were good. That's basically what it does for me, people claim to focus better, and have more creativity, I can only speak for focusing better. It's definitely worth the experience, it's different.

      [–]neoromantic 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      What doses are you talking about?

      [–]tarandfeathers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Answered earlier, around 20 ug, sometimes less, even towards 10.

      [–]Cidsations 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Questions:

      1. How long can you microdose for? A couple days? Weeks? Months? When does it become bad for you?

      2. Do you skip a day or two between doses?

      3. Do you have to increase the dose daily? Like 10ug, next day 20ug, next day 30ug...

      I've got enough to last 18 days (if I do 20ug daily) but I'm not sure how often it should be done and what length of time is safe. Can I pick your brains? :)

      [–]tarandfeathers[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      I must admit this builds tolerance indeed, but the same dose works for me for the purpose stated in the title.

      I tried this only for a small sample size (about 10 days) so I don't know what happens after a longer period.

      If you skip a day or two or more, tolerance decreases and this is good.

      This is a relatively new approach and I guess there is no data for long term use. I tend to believe it does no harm (I've heard about two guys who took a blotter a day for 9 months and they were quite ok, but this could be a legend), so please don't count on my opinions.

      [–]Cidsations 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Thanks! :) Well 10 days versus 18...I guess it's not too much of a difference so I'll do what you've done. My main objective is to focus on my work and health...the day seems to fly by and I get nothing done! lol. Need. More. Focus. Wouldn't mind the added creativity boost and clear-mindedness. Hoping this is going to help me pick up and maintain good habits. I'll keep a log of the effects and share it with everyone here if anyone is interested. I think even if this doesn't work the way I expect it to, it's worth a shot and the loss of a few tabs. Pretty excited to feel time dilation...something that I really miss from my childhood. heh. So you did it everyday for 10 days at the same dose without skipping days...am I right?

      [–]tarandfeathers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I skipped a couple of days and missed it to the point of driving back home 250 km to reload.

      Your (and others') log is more than welcome!

      [–]AL-LAD--AKBAR 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      would you recommend this for a college student? like would I able to study and do my homework and all that jazz?

      [–]tarandfeathers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I don't see this as an impediment, but better safe than sorry: finish your college duties before going for this.

      [–]StonerSour 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Let me embarass myself here. I'm on mobile so I can't look this up. what does "joie de vivre" mean?

      [–]moonray55 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      joie de vivre "Exuberant enjoyment of life."

      [–]StonerSour 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Thanks

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