PSA: 5 Reddit accounts subpoenaed by ICE

/r/DarkNetMarkets has received its first known LE subpoena: a request for 5 accounts' data, including mine, related to Evolution and the supposed doxing/leaks.

Recently (2015-03-25), I was alerted by Reddit that there had been a subpoena for my Reddit account information and they would be responding by 2015-03-30; this followed their privacy policy where they inform all accounts affected by subpoenas if there is no gag order (which is more than most websites will do for you):

16. We may disclose - or preserve for future disclosure - your information if we believe, after due consideration, that doing so is reasonably necessary to comply with a law, regulation, or valid legal process. If we are going to release your information, we will do our best to provide you with notice in advance via reddit's private messaging system unless we are prohibited by court order from doing so (e.g., an order under 18 U.S.C. § 2705(b)). We reserve the right to delay notice to users in cases involving the exploitation of minors and when we believe a delay is necessary to prevent imminent and serious bodily harm to a person.

Such subpoenas are not unprecedented, especially for third-party data; see for example the 2014 Reddit transparency report. The subpoena (#BA13CR12BA0018) turned out to be a 2-page "21 U.S.C. § 967, Public Law 97-258, section 1, as amended" (Controlled Substances Act) administrative subpoena (very commonly used by USG) sent by a Baltimore DHS ICE agent, dated 2015-03-20, demanding information about 5 Reddit accounts:

  1. EVOSMITH (evosmith)
  2. NSWGREAT (NSWGreat)
  3. Z-L (z-l)
  4. GWERN
  5. DEEPTHROAT_ (DeepThroat_)

For those who mercifully missed the drama: NSWGreat is an Australian vendor who sold on Evolution & also was an employee in a mostly PR capacity who memorably confirmed the recent Evolution exit scam (ending the doubt and uncertainty about the failing withdrawals); z-l, DeepThroat_, and evosmith were just 3 of the legion of trolls and scammers and fools who popped up in the immediate aftermath, claiming to have secret information, offering to dox or attack the Evo admins in exchange for Bitcoins (upfront, naturally), posting faked chats intended to deliver malware (example). z-l claimed to have been an Evo programmer and to be offering the source code, user database etc; the normal way of verifying such a claim is for the leaker to give someone with accounts the hash of their password, which that someone can then hash their password and check it matches, and since I had one or two Evo accounts for spidering, I offered to verify using mine to either show z-l to be somewhat genuine or a troll like all the others. z-l never gave me any hashes, databases, or the source code, claiming that - oops! - his copies must be on some other hard drive and he was still looking for it. Last I saw, he was now claiming to have given up on releasing the info to anyone but the FBI or to have been paid off by Kimble/Verto, I forget which.

Given the date and the affected accounts, it doesn't take Holmes to deduce the reason for this subpoena: the ICE agent is interested in the trolls z-l and Deepthroat, and also thinks that they may be able to get IPs for NSWGreat (just one naked connection revealing his home IP would be enough and if he's like past market employees, a raid will turn up all the damning evidence one could hope for). This is a bit hilarious because z-l and Deepthroat never produced anything but drama: nothing but a lot of big talk, threats, and a chat conversation of dubious authenticity, which nevertheless got eaten up by this subreddit's readers and other subreddits and got some media attention. I'm sure that they were both thrilled to be told by Reddit about the subpoena - they couldn't've hoped they would be able to draw such attention and increase the drama even more.

I'm presumably included because I offered to verify z-l's Evolution hashes using my own Evo accounts' passwords, which he was never able to provide - instead I got excuses about how he couldn't find the user database and it must be on another hard drive. And this subpoena furnishes further proof that z-l was a troll, since he claimed to have sent all his material to the FBI, and if he did, why on earth is an ICE agent (located, incidentally, in the same city as the Marco Polo FBI task force) subpoenaing his account?

The specific information required:

a. The subscriber's name; email address, registration IP address, registration date, current IP address b. The subscriber's address; c. The subscriber's local and long distance telephone toll billing records; d. The subscriber's records of session times and durations; e. The subscriber's length of service (including start date) and types of services utilized; f. The subscriber's telephone or instrument number or other subscriber number or identity, including any temporarily assigned network address; and g. The subscriber's means and source of payment for such service (including any credit card or bank number).

I assume the main goal here is the IPs. While Reddit may have phone numbers for 2FA and billing information for Gold or advertising, it is unlikely any of our accounts have that and those parts are more boilerplate. (Reddit's lawyer declined to specify what information would be provided, referring me to the privacy policy.)

Administrative subpoenas effectively cannot be fought because the judicial standards are ultra-low and because they are going to a third-party (Reddit); one has little legal standing or rights in data held by third-parties, which is one reason subpoenas feature so prominently in the past black-market cases I've written about (cases often involve subpoenas to Amazon, ISPs, Gmail, PayPal, etc, and those are just the ones mentioned - implying many more subpoenas were sent off but didn't turn out immediately useful). So there's nothing that can be done about this.

So the basic lesson here is:

Don't feed the trolls. If someone claims to be a hacker, or staff, or whatever, don't swallow their stories and excuses; either they are going to leak & provide proof, or they are not. If the latter, then they are of interest, otherwise, simply ignore them like you would any other spammer. It's not that hard.

If you people had kept your heads more level and hadn't overloaded Reddit with doxing fervor, I wouldn't have been forced to waste a day reading up on subpoenas & seeking legal advice, being stressed out, and having LE violating my Reddit account to read my PMs and potentially endanger my source - all in addition to the time I already wasted answering questions about z-l and reading through alerts related to him/me. Gee thanks guys... (And this is despite all the effort the mod team put into putting a lid on the worst of the frenzy! And believe it or not, it's continuing, with /u/Bluehighsky and /u/z-l2.)

The subpoena does include some boilerplate language to the effect that "You are requested not to disclose the existence of this subpoena for an indefinite period of time. Any such disclosure will impede this investigation and thereby interfere with the enforcement of federal law.", however this threat is obviously hollow: Reddit has already notified the accounts involved, 21 U.S.C. § 967 includes no gag order like NSLs and financial subpoenas do, subpoenas are commonly discussed publicly, administrative subpoenas are commonly used, discussing it fits under no laws or cases of interference, discussion of LE activity is protected by precedent & free speech, and as a journalist & researcher I pretty much have to write about this.

My personal vulnerability is relatively low: I am well-aware that as a semi-public figure writing about the black-markets I am doxable, especially by LE, and for that and many other reasons, I have never been a seller, market operator, or market employee, and I have never accepted payment from any of the above; in addition, I have not purchased from any markets for quite some time now (because it would interfere with my self-experiments, true, but nevertheless). However, it is impossible to not violate laws in the USA and I cannot really afford a good legal defense, so I am still worried. This seems like a good time to note that my writing & research on the blackmarkets - my mirroring of the markets such as Evolution, my research into arrests, analysis of market lifetimes, and background - are supported by donations: 1GWERNEDr2o3JYfD3n5GHkoPxSxPk3MbK3 (EDIT: thanks to everyone who donated. I am surprised and humbled to have received ฿3.5 so far!)

Nevertheless, how can I continue as a moderator knowing that all my non-PGPed communications have been laid bare, there may be followup subpoenas for my Gmail account, and I may be under further investigation myself? I am still considering this, but I will probably step down as a moderator soon; I'd been considering moving on to other areas for a while now, but the subpoena may be the last straw and a message.

Finally: don't panic. The Eye of Sauron is upon us indeed, but we all expected this would happen eventually or had been happening all along. Double-check you are using Tor; archive copies of any important pages or comments; remove any comments or posts which on reflection may reveal too much to the entire world; switch accounts or switch to using hidden-service forums like The Hub for any dangerous talk.

(Wired article; ars technica; Forbes; HN)


Comments


[141 Points] NicholeRichey:

You are the man gwern. Good luck


[65 Points] Theeconomist1:

Maybe this will serve as a warning to trolls who may realize its not a good idea to claim to have doxx info on someone, esp a market admin that has recently cratered. Glad this is stickied b/c every community member should read this and think when they post. I wouldn't want to be the target of any of this shit, and most certainly not b/c I posted bullshit.


[56 Points] ParanoiaCat:

Just smile and wave, smile and wave.


[51 Points] gwernbatsignal:

Gwern, the US GOVT is fucking terrifying. Thank you a million times over for all of your diligent research. I'm speaking for everyone on this subb when I say, you are the best journalist that has ever graced the deep web.

EDIT: I tried to give you gold but it doesn't work over TOR apparently :(


[35 Points] lamarrotems:

This isn't surprising, and hopefully it will lead to two things:

  1. People donating to /u/gwern - I know I will.

  2. People increasing OpSec and being smarter in general about what they post.

I would NEVER EVER be posting like this on /r/DarkNetMarkets if I was an active buyer/vendor as I know I can be doxxed with minimal effort. If you are talking about your DNM activities you need to use TOR or some other secure means of posting.

We all know LE watches this subreddit, and I really hope this is a good reminder for people that it is happening. I was shocked about how few supoena's Reddit was served last year, and am guessing that number will increase rapidly.

Gwern, I now assume this was the reason for that one tweet on the interpretation of that subsection of subpoena related law?

I get paid tomorrow, will be donating.


[27 Points] _Colorado_:

As far as I am concerned, gwern is a journalist.


[24 Points] -moose-:

you might enjoy

Delaware Attorney General Throws Subpoeana At Reddit Over Comment On Photo Of Two People Having Sex Behind A Dumpster

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140623/04094727654/delaware-attorney-general-throws-subpoeana-reddit-over-comment-photo-two-people-having-sex-behind-dumpster.shtml

How Is It That A Random Comment On Reddit Leads To Your Friend Getting Tracked By The FBI? | Techdirt

http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/drgp9/how_is_it_that_a_random_comment_on_reddit_leads/


would you like to know more?

http://www.reddit.com/r/moosearchive/comments/2bz9rq/archive/cjacuxm


[18 Points] None:

I think Gwern needs a lawyer and he's annoying me by not seeking on out, so if anyone could find someone to do the case pro bono, or wants to set up a separate legal consul donation drive please speak up. Remember its all of our internet freedoms we are talking about here, NO ONE should be subject to having their inbox examined (gwern has been active on reddit for 8 years) just for talking to trolls. To be the subject of a search warrant you are supposed to be guilty of a crime, otherwise its a gross violation of your 4th amendment rights which explicitly state you should be secure in your letters. There are gaps between the current US laws and the digital world and we need to speak up and act out to affect change...

to adapt the age old saying to our modern predicament: first they came for the drug dealers, then they came for the site admins, then they came for the Gwerns... when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.

/u/sapiophile this is what I was talking about the other day


[15 Points] None:

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[14 Points] MLP_is_my_OPSEC:

Shit, this is bad. Not just for you, and I hope you're able to get through this, but the community in general. We all knew the troll posts were bad, but now we know how bad it can get. The last thing we need is more LE presence here and the drama-loving trolls are fucking that up for the rest of us law-abiding citizens.

Stay safe /u/gwern and do what you have to do. Maybe /u/NCLawyer could give some helpful advice.


[14 Points] pxck:

/u/gwern, why does the address for donations listed in your post differ from the one listed on your website?


[13 Points] mephestus:

Thank you for putting others first. You have balls. We will not forget what you have to deal with on this day.


[8 Points] tonyeverready:

/u/gwern,

i cant thank you enough for the sheer volume of information that you have provided this community in regards to tutorials, safety, and identifying the shadiest of the shady on the shady part of the interwebs.

i have decided to donate the remainder of my coin to your fund (which was supposed to go to evo funnily enough lulz). you have been the single source of information that this community has thrived on for the past ~2 years.

if there was anything i could say to comfort your fears i would, but there's not. obviously you're not a dealer/reseller/druggie so i assume that in general they just want to get at the information that z-l or deepthroat sent to see if it's legit. once they realize it's not they'll be like ah fuck we just got trolled. i highly doubt anything will come of it, and in fact i suspect this is a psyop in coordination with multiple DDOS attacks in a new vulnerability or something like that.

look guys, it's obvious that silk road had help. dea agents providing info, corrupt LE stealing funds, and continuing scams to fill their own pockets. i mean, anyone who can't notice that...let me tell you something. the united states is in piss poor shape. the economy is shite, the country's opportunities have all but vanished, and this country is no longer a "free" country. where "free speech" zones exist, and corrupt politicians and medical experts who are in bed with corporations keep stuff like cannabis illegal; you have to expect this kind of shit.

yeah it's sad, it's really fucking sad. there have been shimmers of hope, but i really don't think it's going to get any better here. it wouldn't surprise me if evo got word from an informant that the hammer was about to come down and they fucking split, as well as splitting their proceeds with the informing party(ies).

imagine being some mid-level fbi agent. you make what $60k a year? here you are investigating criminals making millions upon millions every month or so. what the fuck would you do? keep that $60k salary? or fuck it and say "hey give me $10 million and call it quits, and i'll keep these fuckers on the wrong track."

well that's exactly what's happening here.

best of luck gwern, you're a reporter. a journalist. an artist. and a genius. you'll be fine dude.


[6 Points] ShulginsCat:

I'm presumably included because I offered to verify z-l's Evolution hashes using my own Evo accounts' passwords

Subpoena means they think you might have useful information in your account history - not necessarily that they want to charge you with anything. It could very well be that they are more interested in the people who've PMed you then anything you actually have/know. When a 1+yr investigation goes down the drain, you can imagine they will try to grasp on whatever they can get.


[7 Points] dsfgsad:

Can we get /u/IGetDankShit subpoenaed by ICE?


[8 Points] Oracle_DNM:

Gwern Is Exit Scamming!

(Now Seriously, It doesn't sounds like you are in real danger & good luck in any case!)


[8 Points] DankNetMarkets:

God! please let EVOSMITH, Z-L & DEEPTHROAT_ get busted.

Gwern, All the best to you.


[7 Points] throwahooawayyfoe:

"I am hereby exercising my right to have an attorney present with me during any and all questioning from this point forward. I will not answer any questions without one and I choose to remain silent until one arrives."


[4 Points] Sloppy__Jalopy:

Thanks Batman.

Much appreciated, as always.


[3 Points] ThrowawayTehGay:

Damn! I'll send a few Satoshis Gwern's way too. And as others have said, the rest of us should also take away from this the importance of maintaining good reddit OPSEC. That should include a special account used for the DNMs that is only used through TOR via Tails. I don't even want a record of the text I'm reading/typing to show up in my paging file.

Take care, be safe everyone, and best of luck to you Gwern. You've provided many a valuable service to our community.


[3 Points] MrCrappy57:

Just wanted to say I'm sorry this is happening to Gwern. He is a great member of the community. Best wishes, will donate. Thanks for everything you do, Gwern. This isn't right. I can't believe my government.


[4 Points] None:

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[3 Points] massiveweiner:

Seems likely that the pigs spent months investigating evo, flipping vendors, getting UCs into the staff etc, then V&K do a runner and they're left seething and clutching at straws!


[4 Points] ttrravis:

i live far away - but ICE, hadnt heard of them to know. What a fantastic name for LE agency. Would of been hi-5's when they put that together. Its such a weird and wonderful world. Surely they all love saying. I work for ICE! Im surprised you haven't been asked to work for ICE! approach you before the subpoena. Isnt there more to gain from Gwern as a secret ICE agent,rather than blowing it all up. if your starting a tor market place - how do you let people know about it. Anyway I sprained an ankle at footy training last night. The physio recommended i try METH as a new approach to recovery. So today i was puffing away at lunch time as the physio walked passed he asked, how you find METH?. Fantastic, here give it a go... HE said no no no, METH is the knew approach to soft tissue injury, it refers to Movement, Elevation, Traction and Heat... This is now seen as a better option than ICE..Ok thats good,cause those other times when id been using ICE each during the week like you said, well im not real sure it was working either, and to be honest, using METH, i cant tell the difference


[3 Points] None:

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[3 Points] mackenley95366646:

Now imagine reddit receives a court order forcing them to run a maliscious javascript as soon as user XXXX logs in. It would be hard to detect for us users because it would run only once for a particular time and a particular user. And we trust reddit to run javascript, even using tor. What do you think?


[1 Points] None:

Well I'm done with darknet all together. It's too real now.


[2 Points] CocaineNose:

Not sure I understand why they didn't put a gag order? If you were investigating these users, why tell them?


[4 Points] None:

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[2 Points] grandpajoe_dnm:

Stay safe my friend.


[2 Points] None:

All i gotta say is ...fuck the illegitimate pigsters #FTP .. And really what is ice doing in all this ?shouldn’t they be running There highly unconstitutional internment camps that prisoners are rioting in, And taking some corporate private prison ceo dick in there ass. My Advice shed your accounts , make new get a vpn that takes bitcoin (run it ) open a virtual player . use tails( or run a different OS and use your vpn account [choose a different server on account ] on the virtual machine ( this chains your vpn ) / also the virtal machine helps with submasking and other things... Download Tor cruise reddit


[2 Points] None:

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[2 Points] Jay-__:

Weird to see your name in a list with those.


[2 Points] trecht:

Land of the free!


[2 Points] PatchWork-:

Thank you for providing us with this information Gwern.


[2 Points] None:

Great post Gwern!! (: love you


[2 Points] presari0:

Im very sorry to hear about your troubles gwern. You are one of the most interesting and outstandingly intelligent people Ive ever met on the internet. This sub will sorely miss your contributions. I hope nothing but the best for you in the future, compadre.


[2 Points] mad87645:

U DA BES GWERN


[2 Points] None:

How do you even use tor on reddit? It shadow bans me,


[2 Points] None:

I'm truly speechless about the activities that are taking place today. Thank you, gwern, for everything you've done for this community. The corrupted forces known as the US government is going to be hard to go against if you go to court for anything due to the streaming propaganda that is fed to the citizens. If you know they have nothing on you, just keep your mouth shut and talk to a lawyer. If they raid your home, keep your mouth shut and talk to a lawyer. Good luck, and godspeed.


[0 Points] anti-omni:

i'm not one to hand out epeen, but great post gwern. Way to not be a faggot.


[2 Points] None:

Thank you /u/gwern. You are a hero to this sub. We all greatly appreciate everything you have done.


[2 Points] None:

Sent some love, thank you for what you do.


[2 Points] DoctrZoidberg:

Good luck Gwern :)


[2 Points] Toruser6669:

Why did they not ask for Kimbles IP address as he had Reddit? I know he was too smart to fuck up, but for all we know for a split second over the past year and a half there could be a chance he accidentally logged in whilst not behind VPNs/Socks


[2 Points] earthmoonsun:

LE is very short-sighted. With actions like these, they really encourage more people, even the dumbest criminals, to learn about encryption, and consequently lose any chance to find the people they are looking for.


[2 Points] PsyHighBuyTieDie1:

Gwern, the government wants to find you to use you for the CIA. They're going to hook up your brain to their intelligence computer system and start unmasking everyone by sheer deductive power.

Anyway I wouldn't be too worried, the government just wants to see if some special person sent you some super secret info about market owners because, being the almighty god of human knowledge, you tend to be privy to inside shit. They clearly are trying and failing to figure out anything about the Evolution operators. The fact that they're resorting to a Reddit subpeona, an ineffective move, indicates that they really have their thumbs up their asses. Like everyone else here they cling to the desperate hope that the trolls aren't bullshitting. Verto and Kimble are fucking ghosts, good luck catching these masters federal govt.


[2 Points] guyfromaplace2:

Geez. I guess it is time to start connecting to here using TOR. Kind of a pain in the ass to have to start using that again but thought the day may come.

Out of curiosity, how many of you use TOR for this who don't actively participate in the DNM's?

All i want to do is follow the drama :[


[2 Points] throwthrowitaway11:

I have not purchased from any markets for quite some time now (because it would interfere with my self-experiments, true, but nevertheless).

Anyone else having a really hard time believing this? I understand fully why Gwern is claiming this, but it's simply way too hard to believe.


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] R4ID:

Holy SHIT THIS IS CRAZY..... donating some spare btc for sure. best of luck gwern.


[1 Points] Moridakkubokka:

This is some intense shit right here.

Fuck the LE, good luck on your journeys gwern.


[1 Points] huntokartography:

Thank you for being as active as you have been in researching DNM and keping all of us abreast of DNM news. Hopefully everything works out okay.


[1 Points] adam2222:

Wow, thanks for letting us know, Gwern....Sounds like you are most likely safe, fortunately...

On the bright side...maybe theyll catch those fucking evo scammers and send them to jail...that would be worth it, imho


[1 Points] deepdot:

Oh fuck these are terrible news. Keep safe!


[1 Points] token_dave:

"dangerous talk" is not necessarily dangerous, only non-government-approved. Talking about freeing slaves was also dangerous at one point in time if you were caught by the feds.


[1 Points] Therealfed1:

Smile and wave boys, smile and wave


[1 Points] GIEV_RP_PLZ:

Has evosmith deleted his posts on reddit, why so few?


[1 Points] None:

Why is this all of a sudden the DHS and not the DEA dealing with this? Calling this a threat to national security? This is another level of scary.


[1 Points] RUMBLINGBUTTHOLE:

Godspeed, Gwern. I wish you freedom for the rest of your days.


[1 Points] KW-NZ:

Good luck Gwern! Hope you dont get fucked over bro


[1 Points] GriseldaBlancoke:

Can someone explain whats the big drama?

  1. They filed subpena
  2. The will get all the data from these accounts
  3. Look at it
  4. Won't find the stuff they are interested in, since it doesn't exists there (the "Proofs" basically)
  5. Confirm that they were just troll accounts.
  6. We'll never hear about this again.

What am i missing here? Does anyone here honestly believe that they are going to arrest Gwern?

Funniest thing is, look at all these downvotes i got When i said that DeepThroat and z-l are trolls and should be ignored, hope that the lesson is learned - these idiots are not just innocent trolls - they can cause real harm.


[1 Points] ThisIsCanadaMan:

LE should hire you


[1 Points] MF17:

TL;DR ?


[0 Points] rickross47:

Fuck Le. why cant they just leave us alone


[0 Points] durgsrbad:

evosmith will go down in history as one of the world's great liars, but it will all be overshadowed by his trolling ability. It's not a pretty thought, but it's none too hard to see the raging boner that twat will sport for the next few months after reading the OP.


[0 Points] causejodysaysso:

TLDR


[0 Points] Glassjunkie:

The federal goverment needs to go after dark markets reddit page. it's a source for many illicit drugs. they even play that tripsit is harm reduction when they are teaching kids how to get high. The feds will have you all eating prison food soon. enjoy drug addicts.


[-1 Points] throwthrowitaway11:

Good thing I've only ever used this subreddit via Tor


[-1 Points] 1percentof1:

David Koresh is sacred and he wants money.


[-1 Points] Biteitliketysen:

I wish I knew what was going on here.. This seems really interesting


[-1 Points] None:

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[-1 Points] thewilloftheuniverse:

This is why I deliberately beleive all trolling bullshit, now matter how contradictory.

Of course, I also happen to know for a fact that this story is entirely bullshit, and I can see right through it.

Of course, that right there is bullshit too. Did you know that one time I murdered a puppy by feeding it to a vegan I was starving to death?


[-2 Points] mwthink:

I chipped in a few bucks. Good luck and godspeed.


[-2 Points] None:

All good things must come to an end.


[-2 Points] None:

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[-4 Points] SilentDager:

I heard a rumor they only assign gay people to go through these comments!


[-2 Points] STEZN:

You can be served via reddit..

Was trying to say can't*


[-2 Points] STEZN:

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[-2 Points] blamehofmann:

I sure don't hope this means we have to start using SWIM.


[-2 Points] Smokeyz:

The feds are among us!


[-5 Points] DoctrZoidberg:

Some of this shit doesn't make sense.

Why would ICE be chasing a market that's gone?

Why Aren't they chasing Verto instead of these 5?

THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE(ish)

It's a fake subpoena, or it is a real one and VERTO has paid off a cop to find these guys.

He needs to find out what people know about him/her, or just be safe and take them out.

I suggest some of these guys contact reporters (with integrity) and tell their story. Just in case THEY ALL GO AWAY AND ARE NEVER SEEN AGAIN!


[-7 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

HAPPY APRIL FOOLS DAY, REDIOTS!

You would have worked out eventually that law enforcement agencies tend to concentrate their efforts on websites that EXIST so that they can shut them down and rob the sites users.

Doxxers just found out that there but for the grace of god go us all. Doxxing used to be called "grassing". Its the destiny of grass to be cut.

You can link one darknet alias with another darknet alias eg "Poppermachine is R_C_I".

You CAN'T say "Poppermachine is Mr Davis cameron, 10 Downing st, London".

If the people behind Evo get caught by LE, there will be a wave of drug-related arrests from information contained on the server and backups

So stop trying to doxx Backcopy and Gypsy Nirvana.


[-6 Points] IntellectualEuphoria:

Oh man this drama gets better and better, especially if gwern got arrested.