How far is to far? When a dealer jokes about genocide how do we regulate with in our own DNM community?

After reading the posts by zman3000 and seeing the posts by Quantik an internal debate started to appear - naturally I smoked some kush, did a shot of greygoose, and hopped in the bath.

There is a documentary that I am sure a few of you can pull up from 10-15 years or so ago called 'if drugs were legal'. And its kinda like half documentary / half shortfilm based in the UK, pretty sure its by BBC. It shows the benifits of addicts having safe injection sites. It shows people at bars choosing between their favorite psychedelics like they are candy. However near the end of the film there is an chemist that is against the use of drugs and starts intentionally lacing pills and getting them in the market with something that would put its users into a coma/kill them.

If I knew the identity who a genocidal dealer was and thought he was capable of these horrors am I crossing the line by 'snitching'? Is it even snitching in this case? AFAICT this is not a non-violent crime ...regardless of whether you think its on the individual to test their own drugs. Unless in the future everyone has their own miniture GCMS there is no way to know if your pill is laced with the intention to kill you ...trace amounts of any benzo chems could fool a liquid test easily.

Thinking back years of the non-violent rants by our community(and forefathers - ross - pine - pom) and the utopian idea that this would be the start of a new age of enlightenment as humans would now be in control of whats put into their body ...an act of lacing counterfit pills with the intention of killing/harming 1000s of people would be an act of war against DNM (trying to avoid the word terrorism, however terrifying war can be) now as a community how do we deal with this?? Even if the intent is only to kill one person I think the line has been crossed.

If Quantik does not do his 'final exit' this way one day it will be a angry big pharma worker or hell it could even be a nation state/rouge dea agent ...it wouldn't be the first time the USA poisoned thousands of americans because 'alcohol is illegal'.

I feel like conversly if we knew the identity of Q, taking him out back and having him shot in the swamps is not the way forward either. Though he speaks treason against us I think we need to rise above the old world.

Perhaps one day we can come up with some cryptographic regulation so its hard for new users to accidentially stumble on to bad dealers like this. Maybe Quantik can take a class from a known source on how to not be a stupid childish fuck until I see a sig from a known source Q will always be a joke. The sock puppeting on reddit makes it impossible to really know whats going on, which makes the situation worse for us - leveraging crypto might help us.

goes and smokes a doobie


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[10 Points] None:

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[4 Points] TheBarEatsYou:

Well ...sometimes the bar eats you

I think you are on to something with crypto certification, it would be nice if someone could teach quantik to not be a piece of shit(lulz). Ive never been one to blame peoples actions on drugs, and I find the word 'bartards' a little offensive.. But as a LSD and benzo user, perhaps benzos/ethyl/gaba drugs do turn us into lizards more then we realize...


[3 Points] throwaxanny:

Whoa, an actual logical post about what Q said? Is this still the darknetmarkets sub?

I agree tho, Q is kind of a joke haha, but has the best bars in the industry by far.


[2 Points] holybraz01:

+1


[2 Points] WellTiddlemyFiddle:

The sock puppeting on reddit makes it impossible to really know whats going on, which makes the situation worse for us - leveraging crypto might help us.

Not to fear-monger but... would we even know if a vendor was lethally lacing some products? Everyone who used them would die. Can't really post a review dead. Though I guess there's a lot of resellers/sharers who don't consume what they buy


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[1 Points] NoWayGringo:

Well said


[1 Points] alexanderdelarge01:

The movie/mockumentary you speak of is http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443541/ . It was a great watch and really makes you think about just how wrong we have been getting it on drug policy.

This was a debate between some policy makers/influencers that I believe was aired after in relation the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bilyiHublFM


[1 Points] Ethereality_DNM:

I may be a bit biased since I'm a moderator of the DNM Avengers forum, but I think the only way we can regulate is to test as many drugs from as many vendors as possible. Once we have verified proof that a vendor is selling something harmful or one drug as another, then we can proceed to stay away from that vendor, and possibly even get them banned from the markets. Due to the nature of anonymity on the darknet, there are no possible preventative measures that we can take, so we have to be proactive in our approach.


[1 Points] None:

Everyone's so caught up in this dudes bars that they don't even care about what he said. Even though the only people who would be affected , are his customers.

This dude shouldn't be able to sell anymore. Ross would be rolling in his grave.


[1 Points] None:

Anyone have screenshots of his post? I missed it.


[0 Points] Toddler_Annihilator:

I appreciate the thought, but can we not use the word 'genocide' to describe this psychopath's behaviour? It's not the calculated murder of a specific group of people, it's just some lunatic who wouldn't think twice about killing a few people here and there.


[-2 Points] PM_Me_For_Drugs:

if we knew the identity of Q, taking him out back and having him shot in the swamps is not the way forward either

Why not, though?

He's an unscrupulous fuck who has already endangered his customers once (PX1) and was joking about killing thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of people, for no appreciable reason.