The Worst Case Scenario: I got a CD with International Weight..

Well, I got my first CD: only it wasn't at me, it was at one of my "managed" drops.

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I noticed that nobody really posts their CD details here in the sub, likely because they fucked up, are in jail or it shook them up too much and they bailed out of it all. Well, here is one that actually happened and the details of how it went down and likely the "Why"...

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I ordered from an asshole on Dream, Germany, 200g of MDMA. He took forevor, offered upped stealth, etc - I asked him to please just simply ship it to make it through, break it up. Period. He is the expert here, not me - so I didn't think in a million years that he would PACK IT ALL IN ONE BOX.... Fucking idiot, the small envelopes go on one belt - the big boxes (which I was told was heavy af; likey hidden in a DVD player or something retarded) get xrayed/looked at closely.

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Well, it made it out of the country no issue, then finally made it into NY, passed customs, sitting in new york. For a fucking month. Then just as things were getting rowdy, at day 34, I got in contact with my anonymous guy who was handling this particular drop - he does not know my name or info, but runs a house in the shittier part of the City and knows how to handle. I pay him half up front, half when he delivers. It has worked out very well so far.

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So all of a sudden the tracking page updates: "arrived at facility, to be dispatched". I was geeked - told him, and he went and asked about it since they are all crooked post, cops, etc. where I am from - and they said it was out for shipment. So he waited outside the house, and waited and waited - and then.....

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He goes in, to hear the homeowners story (the one who was there for it all, and the only one without a warrant who was left behind), which I will be mixing with another dudes story who was in on the deal with him. Below is what happened:

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First off, the day BEFORE, a big truck pulls up at about 3, 3:30p. A little nerdy white guy comes out and the one guy in the house who knows about this, runs up to sign for the package. He grabs it, the postal inspector runs off. the truck makes a loop, the dude goes for a soda at the gas station or some shit after hiding the "super heavy" pack under a box in the basement. I guess he was told to instantly run it to an abandoned building next door, but this guy is kind of slow - I would have had my shit if he did that.

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About 5 minutes later, people come swarming out of the back of the truck that swung back around, with ATF, DEA, FBI jackets on. They all were armed to the teeth with semi-autos. They had to ram the door because these nigs were not giving in, likely because they legit (all but one) had no clue about the pack.. They couldn't find out who signed for the pack because the post inspector was not there anymore to point him out and could not later identify him! I thought that was funny. Anyway, 7 nigs in cuffs on the front lawn, they send in the dogs, who instantly sniff it out, but don't know who signed for it. Turns out all but one of the people in the house had serious warrants and were hauled off only for that. But they were all interrogated for 6 hours each about the pack. Nobody had a damn clue except old trusty, and that is how it played. There was a helicopter, there were multiple decoy vehicles, and there were some VERY pissed off LE at the end of the day because they spent ALL of that money on a CD, only to simply bring in porch monkeys for warrants. It made the news, and the tracking number even says "seized by Law Enforcement"....

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No trace to me or my liaison, and since it was a brand new house, they only found a few grams of weed and 15 pills. I have a feeling that someone in that 'takedown' crew had to answer to someone for this one :)

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I actually drove way out to the city to this house just to see if there was even a chance he was bullshitting, and he wasn't. The door was clearly ripped off, with noticeable shoe prints almost covering the entire front yard in the snow - broken window, a mess.

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Moral of the story? Be smart online, be smart IRL with your drops. Do not let them lead back to you at all. Oh, and PAY YOUR PEOPLE WELL. They will steal your shit if you don't lol


Comments


[65 Points] trynakick:

Did you really need the 'nigs' and 'porch monkeys'? Also, you don't name the vendor here but you say elsewhere it's Mr. Saturn. Just name them here.


[45 Points] mrsaturn_dnm:

That story is true.

BUT what he does not mention is that I refunded him.

and most important He order under A WRONG NAME to a traphouse in chicago or was it boston? where 6 innocent people were partying and he paid some old dude who didn't know anything either to receive the pack. I told him NOT TO RECEIVE it after it was at customs for 1 month.

I refunded him, told him what an asshole he is and he threatened me all the way...then I cut off communication.

Disgusting!

PS: maybe he is just making all of this up to get more money out of me. But I can prove everything from my PM history and DHL admins will gladly confirm that the PGP message hash or text hashes whatever are valid. At least they told me that they keep hashes of original messages for dispute handling before they are automatically encrypted. I dunno if that ever happened anyway.


[36 Points] None:

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[24 Points] None:

Literally the only thing you did right was have an anonymous drop. Dude people order kilos all the time and they always come in 2-300g packs so it's not unusual for a vendor to ship a 200g order in 1 pack. If a pack was stuck in customs for a month how do you not have the decency to let your drop know the pack is seized? And if you don't realize how this shit works then you shouldn't be doing it.


[23 Points] None:

Don't call black people "nigs" and "porch monkeys" you racist asshole.


[14 Points] TheSM0KER:

I hate to be that guy but this sounds like a story told by a fifteen year old. I'm sure you could prove your story and prove me wrong with some simple screenshots.


[11 Points] throwahooawayyfoe:

Oh, and PAY YOUR PEOPLE WELL. They will steal your shit if you don't lol

Or they'll talk. Name three get out free is a thing and most folks wouldn't hesitate to rat on someone they don't know personally.


[9 Points] None:

I'm not buying it. Why would 3 different agencies be involved in the bust over 200g of MDMA ?

You're full of shit. Also, you're quite obviously some racist piece of shit who's fantasy is getting inner city black people to do your bidding.


[6 Points] PingPlay:

I call bullshit. Nobody would be stupid enough to post details of a CD with this much clarity on a website freely available on the clear net for LE to read.

Either it didn't happen and the OP just wanted a cool story and to sound gangster or it did happen and OP is just really stupid.


[5 Points] Throwaway2838592:

Brand new account, no proof, i havent been able to find any news on this....im calling fud till op can prove me wrong.


[5 Points] cyb3rf00l:

the tracking page updates: "arrived at facility, to be dispatched"

USPS tracking will never read like that. "arrived at facility" is a legit scan for incoming mail. Incoming mail is then sorted and routed for correct outgoing. It would again be scanned as "out for delivery".


[3 Points] caliking321:

after day 34 and you didnt take that as a sign?


[3 Points] DruggieKitten:

This isnt a worst case scenario because a worst case scenario would be you in prison.........and don't ever think you're invincible...


[1 Points] throwawayyy750:

Should i be worried? Ordered rougly 17 days ago. Would this be considered the same batch and i did a stupid noob move so its not even a bulk order... and yes its international.


[1 Points] throwaway420dude:

"7 nigs in cuffs on the front lawn" haha wow


[1 Points] opresearch:

lol what is this? this is either a horrible fake story or you got robbed for 200g mdma with nothing but your "anonymous guys" word. why would you post this is the question. this faker than the kardashians


[1 Points] CantCatchMeBlood:

xdit


[1 Points] CantCatchMeBlood:

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6.) lovelylittlegangster: read above. It wasn't sitting in customs for a month. It was in the New York facility to be mailed out after clearing customs. They made it look like every otherpack tracking I have seen. STOP derailing important posts just because you're bored in your moms basement and think everyone who read that was like "OHHHHHHHHHH DAMMMNNNNNNN!!!" because, well, they weren't. Lets try to keep this constructive? We aren't talking about selling fake chanel bags, guys. This is serious serious shit that will put you away for a long time. Try and say something that will help instead of a troll statement that will make us want to kill your dad for not pulling out. If you don;t have anything to contribute, don't. This is serious shit, and I think we are all getting a little too comfortable witht this because it all hides behind a screen. This brought some reality into the fact that we are literally drug trafficking, which the vast majority of us would say we never thought in a million years that we would be doing.

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7.) MrSaturn: First, you never once in the entire history of us talking warned me about SHIT. You said absolutely nothing about not picking up a pack and I would love to see the hashed comment. Becuse I organized everything into one nice document, and you handled this very wrong. Don't resort to lying, bro. Also, why do you say I gave you the wrong name? That is false, Ms. Cleo. The old guy? Thats his name. I know the game, and how deniability works. It was actually set up quite well with the confusion of the house and the people in it, considering... Props to my dude - It could have gone a lot worse. I guess it was being shipped during a huge fent problem in the City and they went balls to the wall to catch any international pack coming into these neighborhoods instead of maybe passing out love letters to these dope houses that they know aren't going to provide any info. Thats what I heard at least..

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8.) You're right: I don't think that it was a box or DVD player. All that was told was that it was "very heavy" (he thought it was going to be skimmed cards or something) and the older guy had a hard time throwing it over a wall partition in the basement. That simply told me that it was stuffed inside of a piece of electronics, which I see a lot. My bad for the box / DVD player statement.

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9.) MS: No matter what? As a vendor, you absolutely never mention anything about the customer's location or where it was sent. Thank you for someone mentioning that. At least MS was being cool about it, though. Also, I would not have even brought his name up in the other thread if they didn't try to bail on me after this went down. MrSaturn said something to the effect of (I PGP both mine and their names when I encrypt messages, so that I can decrypt the convo, verbatim, later, if need be) "Oh, I don't know man. I don't think your story makes sense based on what I see". - - - - Then not an hour later, MS says "Holy shit dude! I see it now, I was looking at the wrong part - you're right and we are going to make this right. Just give me a minute and we will settle this to move forward - I believe you now, I was simply looking at the wrong area on the tracking". He was referring to the weird "Out for Delivery" thing I mentioned earlier. Then after my attempts over several days to get them to "make it right", they completely ghosted me, and shut me out - which I took as **"good luck, fucker, we will say anything to not have you tell the world that we're lazy af with opsec and stealth and put the community at risk, but won't even give your $ back". Wouldn't return a single message and didn't want to pony up the refund. This is because I would have to be RETARDED to take a reship from them after this. No fucking way. I think that if the vendor didn't do anything wrong, and it got seized - that is one thing.

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Blatent disregard for stealth and just jamming it all in a single container out of laziness of not wanting to follow my directions of sending it in multiple packs, waiting 1-3 days in between each, and all from separate drop boxes (like the good vendors do without you having to tell them) is completely different and is all on them for what they did not do and the corners that they cut. People usually don't call out vendors for anything no matter what, because they have their address. I don't have that problem and am here to finally give you all an account of what happened and why it happened - and maybe it just might save your ass. I hope this helps you guys a little, and try to keep the shit talk to a minimum. Trolling is no help at all and only makes you look petty, This sub's life blood is to watch out for each other. Not to call people out who are trying to help - Still want to call bullshit? Try your google skills more, now having the information that you have now. You just might pull something up.

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I love you all, and I even love MrSaturn. This is not a blast. This is information for the DNM community to see and do what they need to with it.

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Be safe out there, guys. They are stepping their game up and we all need to - come on my sweet sweet automod - act as if. , Peace


[1 Points] CantCatchMeBlood:

(1of2) ** This should be relabeled by the mods: the vendor came into this convo and admitted that this happened. Vendor was given a lot more info than I am sharing here, so they know what is up. This is no longer an accusation, but proof of a large (albeit sloppy) *not to taunt the alphabet agencies, but come on... - - - of a CD caused by one vendor not taking delivery direction well and being too blase' about a crime that can put someone away for most of their life. I was going to post exif-removed pics until that SUPER obvious LE's comment below asked for screenshots..

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Ok, I am going to reply to this one time, not to give you all validity or to prove anything - but to make a couple of things clear:

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1.) I am not sitting here typing on a Macbook through my ISP. I'm running this through multi-layer encryption on encryption on Tor on Tails on your mothers' sofa. There is always a risk, though, so keep in mind that the risk I took to post this (2x) was literally ONLY for the benefit of you guys and this sub. There is ZERO reason for me to bring this anywhere, other than to help you all out and try and watch out for each other. So try and take it easy on "OP". He is here to just make sure this doesn't happen to you. If you don't want it, tell Gwern the same thing. He saved all your asses without you even knowing about it. Which is a nice (duplicated, somewhat) segue into:

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2.) To the Negative Nancies calling ME out?: chill your shit and just soak in the information? What the fuck. Remember that while reading this. I literally had no other reason to post this than to help out the people who are buying international. ASK FOR YOUR SHIT TO BE SPLIT UP INTO MULTIPLES. Period. 28g MAX, the pros (Dock) will take their sweet ass time with the packing methods of your merch-making sure it lands, and QUICK. So before you go blasting me, just remember that I have been around since SR1 and truly believe in what we do; the ideals of what this all stands for: a free market and a safe place for all of us on both sides. The stats don't lie and I will continue to help on both ends. This, I think, is my helping a tiny bit..

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2b.) the racist words: I have no excuse for those words... No really, I don't - I meant them and am not redacting. They were nigs/niglets/porch monkeys, whatever you want to call the dudes who - trust me on this one - will break into your house without thinking. They were in a trap house for christs' sake. All but one had felonies, all but one had bad warrants. Also? If you read it right, I didn't pay off the people in jail? I didn't KNOW the people in jail. I didn't even know who's house it was or what happaned there. The only person I pay is my middle-man who set this up. Nobody else. I pay him half before the delivery, half after he delivers the package, and I acquire it later in the week. We deal only with dead drops. So no - my profit margin at about 75 bucks per gram WHOLESALE where I am from - and I pay my guy the $200-$1000 per drop (depending on if they shotgun multiples that are split up) - it doesn't even tickle. Before you go bananas over that small fee - I get packs coming in so much that he is paid welll enough to move out of the ghetto, and into a nicer area than I live in. He just had a baby, I paid him 10k. He had too many car issues for my taste, so I bought him a beater that got from A to B. I take care of him and he is very loyal in return.

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That was 15,000.00 I lost on that day, and almost all was to be delivered to a club that same day (in and out, literally 10k cash for doing nothing) who was taking almost all of it off my hands in one fell swoop. Since they were counting on it, and it cost them money now too, they said it was unlikely we would do usiness again. Thats another factor of money lost.

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3.) Yeah, I guess it was a USPS transport type truck to hold all of the donuts and LE in the back. To quote one of the "gentlemen": he said "a big ass mail truck". 'Nuff said.

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4.) It is NOT uncommon for packs to arrive after a months' time, it has happened about 4 times for me. Very nerveracking, and highly annoying - but at least they got here. Not to mention, tracking said that it cleared customs on both sides during the holidays. To the guy calling bullshit because my verbiage was off for the sorting facility comment - I am not rainman, and cannot recall everything by memory: I checked and It said this, after leaving the country of origin: "Item arrived at destination country". Then it said "Item released by Customs (NY)". Then it sat..... And sat.... And then, all of a sudden, it said "Arrival at delivery point" and the zip code of where it should be - which I guess didn't even show up until AFTER the bust happened? then it said "Seized by Law Enforcement". Then later on, it was glitching a bit and added a separate line item that said "Out for Delivery". ;;;; I personally think that LE was scrambling after they didn't get dog-shit on the pack or anything at all versus the amount of money it costs to pull a CD of that magnitude - and were working with USPS to try and edit what tracking shows --> AFTER they realized they weren't getting shit out of the african american gentlemen they had in their interrogation rooms. I think they were still trying to trick someone into going for that house to wait on it, but they didn't realize that it already said "seized by law enforcement?" I have no clue on that one, but it went away. TLDR; it was marked as passing both ends of customs, during the holiday, and I have personally waited over a month prior to this, so no. I am not an asshole for not "tipping my guy off".

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5.) thank you, /u/druggiekitten for your post about the anonymity of my drop and how one would be stupid to know anything about them - or care if anything happened. They did not know SHIT about this pack arriving. None of them, except one of them even knew that a package was coming. That is why I honestly do not feel bad. LE cannot put this on any one of those guys, because they seriously did not know what was in the pack - only the single older man who "sees my guy around the block sometimes and they bullshit", according to my guy. This old guy was simply paid a hundred bucks out of the $$ I paid to my middle-man (who's ONLY job is to provide a delivery point for my purchases, and acquire/deliver my shit. I have nothing to do with this part & had no clue it was a trap house, or that 7 people would be inside, etc until I got the intel from him) - to grab it for him without the others in the house noticing, hide it immediately in the house next door, and then call me with the very expensive PGP sat-phone duo I bought for us from Dream. This guy has proven himself to be rock solid and has been through a lot with me - he is loyal, and actually once saved my ass by putting himself in danger for a screwup that I made IRL) and he still doesn't know me, my name, my city, my face. I have nothing to do with anything past paying the guy - and recieving the address. Understand that - That is what you want. You want so much compartmentalization that even if YOUR guy got popped - he cannot lead the police back to you in any way shape or form. Period. That is some good advice. Also, this person I speak highly of? Happens to be black. Do you see me calling him a nigeratio? No - because he isn't one. He is a respectable person who won't steal your truck if you left it running in the bad part of town where he lives.

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If the people in the house didn't have warrants for other shit, they would not have gone to jail. Period. The homeowner didn't? Either way, it was not me who set that house as a drop. It was the person - the only person - who I deal with personally, who did

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[1 Points] speedfleek:

You are an idiot. Saturn told you not to touch the pack. But you did.

You gave a FAKE NAME. If you wanted a less heavy box, don't buy tracking. Its not rocket science.

Who orders international schedule 1 drugs to a dirty traphouse full of people with warrants?

You are very irresponsible and just got 6 innocent people in trouble because you don't understand how drops are supposed to work.


[1 Points] DavidEckstasy:

You threaten Mr Saturn? That's not very cool bro !

Wow this is a fucking crazy story


[-1 Points] DruggieKitten:

Should you really be posting this? Can this information somehow harm you?

Anyway, thanks for the story. I laughed so hard.....the fucking way you tell the story with the nigs and porch monkeys and all just made my day...

What's a big truck look like? Why in the fuck would the mail come in a big truck? Are you talking about like, a fedex/ups type delivery vehicle, or a straight truck or what? Are you talking about one of those plain white striaght trucks the post office uses to take shit to small town post offices? I keep thinking this big truck had to be a huge red flag that something wasnt right....lol....


[-5 Points] guccifer420:

200g isn't "weight", its mid level high school kids status.