HELP!: Sent BTC from localbitcoins to DNM wallet w/out tumbling

Title pretty much sums it up. Immediately afterward I panicked and took everything in that markets wallet, tumbled thru Helix Light, and sent to another DNM market. I then sent some of it back to original market, and some to a diff market, and eventually used the BTC for purchases (personal amounts). I use Tor but not TAILS. In LocalBTC, I use anonymous cash deposit (so that account is not connected to my name, bank info, etc) HOWEVER I didn't use Tor when accessing LocalBTC that day :(

I'm an idiot, I get it. But any info you can provide would be helpful regarding (1) how worried should I be, and (2) any other steps I can take to mitigate these errors. (I'm not sure what is possible/ helpful, eg deleting accounts, destroying/cleaning up hardware, I'm pretty much willing to consider anything.)


Comments


[11 Points] None:

Its really not that big of a deal at all.


[6 Points] drpnit:

dude, don't fear.


[4 Points] crotch_shot:

Well, probably the dumbest thing you did was tumble your coins after they were already in the market wallet. If you used anonymous cash deposit, did you have to take a picture of the receipt to submit? That's the only thing that could compromise you in this case. You probably want to delete your lbc account and start over on a tor only account, but other than that you'll be fine.

If it calms you down, I do cash deposit LBC-> blockchain-> Market. I'm an ass who thinks tumbling my coin isn't necessary unless you're sending thousands in btc


[5 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

So?

Yes you are an idiot, a little bit. But not for the reason you think.

Localbitcoins has got THE best tumbler.

Tumbling is there to protect the DESTINATION wallet. You're protecting a filthy marketplace from your anonymously-purchased bitcoin, which DIDN'T come from your localbitcoins deposit address - it comes from a different one everytime.

If the NSA followed your lbc withdrswal, then saw it being split up and tumbled through hundreds of wallets, they know you're up to no good. Just do a nice simple wallet to wallet payment.

Finally, have you ever heard of a darknetmarket drug customer ever being caught or arrested because of a bitcoin transaction?

No.

Its vendors withdrawing who may tumble bitcoin (SR2 has no tumbler, agora has a great tumbler). buyers get arrested because movements of drugs are found.

I do some business direct, offmarket. Bitcoin is for MY protection, the vendor, so i expect the customer to conduct the transaction the way I ask. They will say "check your wallet in 6 hours"

"I explained why you mustn't tumble money into a vendor's wallet. Tumbling is always paid for by the destination wallet owner. Anyone would think my wallet has something to hide"

"it just makes me feel safer". But I'm thinking "you're not safe. You are using an apple iphone instead of a proper android, you don't even have a bitcoin wallet - only web wallets"

If you're this panicky buying drugs anonymously using cryptocurrency and the Onion Ring, imagine if you had to leave your house to score? You'd be on here saying "I only changed clothes twice, and only changed buses twice. I don't like the look of that pizza van across the road"

Stand still while we all file past, slapping you in the face and saying "pull yourself together. You're hysterical" like the scene in that airplane movie.

At no point is your name connected to a bitcoin wallet. Localbitcoins sends it from some random wallet, and it's somebody's bitcoin from yesterday which was already pre-tumbled overnight. That's an unbeatable tumbler, instant, and only cost you 1%. So just do a one-wallet straight payment instead of splashing around on the blockchain like a drowning man, drawing attention to yourself.

If you buy drugs, you've got to be cool. Please can you BUYERS stop using professional money-laundering tools like tumblers, now that I've explained it rationally to you?


[2 Points] tmathy:

There are plenty of posts on here about how tumbling is not essential and there are plenty of people who don't do it, don't worry about it


[2 Points] Chronicpurple:

Chill. Not tumbling might be used as evidence to link you financially if you're already busted, but they're not gonna bust you by following the BTC.


[1 Points] shady_varchar:

Why the hell do people freak over this so much? They aren't actively looking for buyers. They want the people running the show and the vendors. Buyers only get caught cause of their own stupidity ad the vendors lack of stealth.


[1 Points] cautious_cumface:

Unless your buying kilos and they are already watching you closely your fine. Even in that scenario I can't see that getting you caught.

But I would bet cash that within the year many people will be eating their words, such as they don't go after buyers, and they don't bust ya by tracking BTC. I may be wrong, but they are starting quite a few heavily funded operations targeting drugs on DNMs, and the vulnerabilities in TOR, Tails and BTC are coming regularly, and thats just what we hear about. I hope I'm wrong, and it won't prevent me using them, albeit cautiously.


[1 Points] crackwidow:

Basically: you should tumble just for that added layer of security but you really don't have to. I have never tumbled once.

You're fine.


[1 Points] jboot123:

I've never tumbled coins and I've made about 70 transactions. I go from LBC to blockchain to market. Every time.


[1 Points] hdheuud:

Damn, I wish this was my biggest problem today. I swear, some of the shit the people on this sub freak out about....