Debate on the potency of MDMA

I'm currently having a debate on the maximum purity possible of MDMA. I've been under the impression that the highest that you can get is 84%-86% purity, but my friend contends that above 90% is possible. He also says that a low purity content is due to the addition of a "rocking agent". I said that's bullshit and sounds like a marketing gimmick to lend validity to the term "moon rocks". Furthermore I contend that the term "moon rocks" was a term dedicated to methylone and use of the term got out of hand when people either assumed or were given incorrect information about what they were taking. I think that this may be where some of our confusion comes from as well. "Moon rocks" was never a term until about 2, maybe 3, years ago and it's confusing as fuck. I hate methylone, I don't want to take that shit. It makes my muscles hurt and doesn't last nearly as long as some good ole MDMA and anytime I hear "moon rocks" I tell the person to take a fucking hike, so I need to get my facts straight here. Is there anyone who has some insight that can help me out? Please provide sources if you have them as well.

*Edit: Up votes for everybody. Thank you all so much!


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[9 Points] jigglybitsaye:

MDMA is an oil without a "rocking agent" That agent is HCl. The 13% missing is approximately the molar mass of the hydrogen chloride so you are correct.

MDMA's molar mass is 193 g/mol HCl's molar mass is 36 g/mol


[2 Points] YellowXanaX:

Dude you and I are on the same page!! MDMA is my fav vice right now and I want to know everything about it. Sometimes they have good convo about it over in /r/drugnerds, although I never understand what the hell they're saying.

I've had some pressed pills that were fucking flame. They had 180mg but fuck those things floored you. With that said, I've had some dark brown shards/crystals that smelled like licorice that turned the marquis test black real quick, but the roll was good but very mild. Recently I've tried some tan/light gold MDMA from the same person who had the dark brown shit, but this new batch was washed. The roll was good but still mild. It also tested straight black, and made the Mecke test fizz.

There is definitely MDMA goin around that is less than 84%. It's fucking strange that a 180mg pressed pill can floor you but 300mg of crystallized MDMA is so mild.

I also agree with you, fuck Methylone. That shit sucks. I don't see how people compare it to MDMA. I don't even call MDMA "molly" anymore. Here in the states, molly means methylone, and I want none of it. Really wish I could get my hands on some legit pressed pills again.


[0 Points] Beastiarity:

The vast majority of those claiming 80%+ purities is total bullshit. Just order from anyone from the Netherlands who advertises 80+ a single time (many offer free samples) will show you this.

For example, allchem, great vendor, don't get me wrong, he's actually my go-to guy because fuck ordering from the netherlands and he's still got a decent price, but if the shit I've had from the Netherlands was 84%, then his high-purity was only 50-60%.