[Complaint/Warning] Shiny Flakes - "several thousand others can expect a visit from police in the near future."

News of the Shiny Flakes bust has hit the mainstream US media.

This from NBC: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/germany-drug-bust-finds-4m-haul-destined-online-sale-cops-n322146

Most concerning quote "several thousand others can expect a visit from police in the near future" according to the police spokeswoman.

Several thousand? I'd say it's house cleaning time if you've ordered relatively recently from SF. Looks as though he was keeping records on all of his customers.

Scary shit!


Comments


[21 Points] strauser360:

I cant believe these vendors are saving peoples personal information and addresses like this. Vendors should start at least advertising that they delete your info after you order for our sake. This is extremely concerning...


[10 Points] Jay-__:

If this here was real:

http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/2xxatu/complaintwarning_shinyflakes_hacked/

Then he most likely kept every customers address stored on the site, unencrypted - and now the German Police has all of it.

So, yes, this very likely will end not that good for a few others also.


[8 Points] gerundive:

First, the police spokesman won't say, "We are not going to follow up any of the leads", regardless of whether they are going to or not. Second, it's unlikely LE would be considerate enough to alert all the people it intends to raid. Third, if true then this is good news for anyone who hasn't ordered from Shiny Flakes, as it looks like tying up tens of thousands of LE for the next few weeks/months (bearing in mind the huge amount of time and paperwork each case would generate).


[6 Points] UDNM:

"several thousand others can expect a visit from police in the near future"

That's just scaremongering, there is no way that they have the resources to do that.


[3 Points] None:

I thought this dude was a vendor on a DNM. Is that seriously a clearnet website? It looks like an online pharmacy.


[3 Points] throwahooawayyfoe:

damn... he was only 20? i figured a major international player like him would have been a lot older.


[1 Points] throwaway64dedr:

Never ordered from SF, but maybe those were just his current orders? Him making sure that the orders were received/reviewed/finalized before he deleted them? Idk... if only I could be smart enough to become a vendor haha I would love to make ridiculous amounts of money sitting behind a computer! :D Beats destroying my back making $10 an hour...


[1 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

There's no love lost in the drug business.

Shiny flakes is in jail, and all i read is people worrying about themselves,

Customers are arrested to try to catch big suppliers. Not the other way round.

"We're about to raid 12,000 homes so flush your drugs down the toilet. And don't buy any more. We will visit some time in the next year"


[1 Points] None:

Although a lot of people claim to use you own address is a good idea this shows - I think - that it is not.

I didn't bought from ShinyFlakes but if I had I would pee my pants at least a little. If I would had used a dead drop I would not care.


[0 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

The police wouldn't tip you off first if they were trying to get your stash. Don't flush that toilet yet!

In the UK, they always say this after a bust. Their main aim is to scare and discourage people from doing their drug shopping over TOR

How well his self-run clearnet site erased orders is a different thing.

Poor old shiny flakes is in Colditz, the police are having fun scaring you and you're flipping for them like dolphins

"Why do vendors always always keep peoples details?" you all moan, like its a fact.

We don't. We're too lazy and its not to our benefit. There are no 3rd-party cold callers who will come to the door of cannabis customers to sell bongs to them. Vendors don't doxx customers. The occasional psychopath scammer, when outed on a forum and they're trying to make themself as large as possible THREATEN that because they're so scared, and they have a pathalogical need to lie. If only they'd actually written it down.

People in glass houses don't throw stones. The only addresses vendors ever make a note of are people who we've banned, and those of scam vendors so we can keep track of them as they rename at the end of each scam cycle. We HAVE to write down the name and address of people we've banned, and we usually have to go searching through piles of tracking number tickets and go half by memory. Usually you have to ban a whole town or region (many UK vendors have banned Inverness postcodes after years of trouble from there).

So, through laziness, pressure from panicked darknet customers who've been herded like sheep into the "you have to forget me again and again and again" pen by police statements, and nothing to gain personally from it - we don't keep your details. Even when you ask us to, we forget where we wrote them down.

Let me focus your mind so that you understand your own fears better. Drugs often cause paranoia. Fear of arrest, and the resulting shame causes good kids to purchase drugs anonymously by post on the darknet with bitcoin - absolutely the safest way, with the greatest choice possible.

Troublesome customers are ALWAYS associated with competitors, and those competitors are always loitering very close to that "not very good / dishonest / scammer" double barbed wire fence, emptying soil from an exit tunnel down one trouser leg.

Darknet market customers are the cream of drug customers. They plan ahead, source cryptocurrency, install TOR browser and actually HAVE an address. In my experience they're never any trouble (maybe mine are particularly cool, because BBMC is more like a cult than a regular small-medium sized vendor)

The police HATE the darknet. Bty using TOR, encryption and other methods they can't get your name and address. Even if they could, they couldn't put pressure on you to cut a deal to give up your drug dealer (you don't know who we are!).

All the police can do is SCARE YOU INTO NOT ORDERING DRUGS, OR TRICK YOU INTO SENDING THE SAME NAME AND ADDRESS AGAIN AND AGAIN TO THE SAME VENDOR.

Because they only need to get lucky once.

If you were rational, you would get your name and address to us ONCE, and ask us to write it down. BECAUSE YOU WANT THE VENDOR TO KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE. WE ARE NOT THE POLICE.

I'm going to repeat that for emphasis. YOU NEED YOUR VENDOR TO KNOW YOUR POST DETAILS, but nobody else. Every time you make him forget them, you have to put yourself at risk to get them to him again.