Is this just a Russian thing? Or do vendors do that in other countries?

I know you guys order your stuff by mail, but here's how it's mostly done in Russia: the vendor hires people to hide the packages somewhere in the city (i.e. rain pipes, benches, rocks, holes in buildings) and after you pay, he gives you the location with a detailed description of where the package is hidden (sometimes with a photo). Do vendors in other countries do this? And is there a name for this?


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[34 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

It's a "dead letterbox".

Drugs aren't left there for long. An hour at most.

You get the customer in the general location waiting in a pub or somewhere, set up the dropspot, then tell them the location via encrypted messenger well after you've left. taped under the toilet brush holder in a toilet stall of a nearby bar or somewhere the customer can recover it unobserved.

Its halfway between the darknet and IRL dealing, and its only for special circumstances.

When telling the customer where to be, and at what time, you may use the old spy trick of "honest to god" time.:-

If I tell you to be there at "10PM, honest to god", I really mean 3 hours earlier ie 7PM. Any eavesdropper would turn up well after I and the customer have both gone home.


[27 Points] J603:

Those are called "dead drops" and no, at least in the US and EU that doesn't happen. Crazy Russians lol.


[24 Points] toochka:

We have support for dead drop packages on Tochka market.

Dead drops are much more safer than mail delivery due to simple fact that seller doesn't know your fucking name.

Hope it becomes big thing in US and EU. This shit really works.


[8 Points] 2american4foreigners:

I feel like LE can just set up a deal and bust a bunch of people way too easily that way...


[6 Points] lemonbreak:

Dead drops. I don't know about anyone doing it on US DNM's but my local dope guy does dead drops. He hangs around in the area to make sure someone doesn't rip him off though, but I hardly ever see him. Dudes a fucking chameleon.


[6 Points] otistoole:

I do like this idea, though I don't think I have thought through the ramifications of ripoffs. Is there escrow?


[3 Points] None:

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[3 Points] _Long_Story_Short_:

Yeah, this is going on for a long time in russia. Their site is called RAMP. here is an interesting article about it http://www.wired.com/2014/11/oldest-drug-market-is-russian/


[2 Points] jonalev:

Estonia has it too.


[2 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

This is the way I see darknet markets expanding fastest in the future:-

A new class of local vendors called "drug stashers", a more-profitable version of the "one stop shop"

Here's how I think it would work:-

Within a couple of years, I envisage that half of my stock will be sold to young guys working their way through college called "drug stashers". They buy coke, MDMA - any drug, to their shipping address just ouitside a major conurbation.

On Wednesday, all the drugs waterproof and innocuous looking in their backpack, they take a train into the city and stash a gram of coke near the main train stations to the north, south, east and western entry points to the city, and in the city centre. Taped under benches, hidden in the toilet stalls of 24 hour truck stops, behind a drainpipe next to an ATM. They take photos on their mobile phones and make a note ready to become a pin in the map on their college dorm wall. MDMA tablets are stashed close to popular nightclubs.

Fast forward to Friday. The local senator is at the flat he rents for his young mistress, and she wants to party. The senator logs onto Agora and finds the coke and MDMA listings of "ChicagoDrugStasher" and makes a purchase using bitcoin. The listings cost double those of the postal vendors, but he doesn't care:- hes a millionaire.

At no point does he ever give his name or address - that could ruin his presidential chances in 2019. On his smartphone, he installs the free "surespot" encrypted messenger from google play store or apple i-store, and where customers usually encrypt their shipping details he types "senatorkennedy, surespot street" showing that he has created a user ID called senatorkennedy.

20 minutes later. his phone beeps and he has a surespot friend request from chicagodrugstasher2, who asks him where in chicago he is.

"OK, there is a gram of cocaine stashed about a mile from you. I will send you directions and a photo of the all-night diner, the toilet stall, and the toiletbrush holder where it is stashed.

An hour later, the senator returns with a gram of coke, releases the escrrow, and has an all-night sex party with his young companion.

Even if ChicagoDrugStasher is having a night out himself, he can still take direct orders from regular customers on one of his phones. Custom orders can be sent on the back seat of a taxi hailed using "uber". On his way home, an eighth of weed in a luminous tennis ball is thrown into a customer's garden from the car window.


[1 Points] MaltedHoneyOil:

you'd think if you were here.. you would know about old spy tricks. Then again you would think I would be smarter


[1 Points] DutchConnection:

We do dead drops on occasions for bulk customers... Nothing weird, it's been done before.


[1 Points] Vegetano:

that is acutally the most awesome thing. i wish European vendors could pick it up but we aint that big sized yo


[1 Points] bananaequivalentdose:

Same day delivery is the only positive aspect of dead drops I can see..


[1 Points] Hank_Vendor:

seems stupud to me.

the idea of selling drugs is not have a lot of stock.... buy it, flip it. buy more, flip that


[1 Points] Hank_Vendor:

sonetimes I tell customers to meet me under the clock at waterloo station when the clock strikes 9.03

they have to say "do you have the time?"

then I say "I've got the time if you've got the money"

then I send them on a trail of riddles, each more fiendishly difficult than the last ...


[0 Points] None:

In the US, cops will totally intercept that shit. Cops intercept our mail sometimes too, and thats a lot harder.