About fentanyl

I need to start this off with this. Not I, not the subreddit moderators, not alphabay, not your government gets to decide what you put into your body or the form in which your put things into your body. You are an indepdentent entity and are not owned by any other entity. I will not tell you what you can or cannot do with yourself.

But I know that you like money. I like money. Money is good, it can buy you drugs. Almost all of you are very good people and I love you all no matter what. However, you may not hurt other people. Fentanyl is very cheap and oxy is not, it costs over $1 per miligram. There are fake pills on the streets and I cannot do anything about that. There are fake pills on the markets, and I can do something about that.

I have seen counterfiet oxy sold on alphabay and its almost certainly on every market now too. The vendor didn't lie, and made great efforts to let the buyers know that these are fentanyl pills made to look like oxy or hydro. This is fine, if you want to take fentanyl and are more comfortable with a pre dosed familiar looking pill then that is your choice and good for you, having more choice is nice. But then I looked at the price. These might not be taken just by the buyer. The vendor is a wholesaler and some buyers could be looking to be resellers. Its fine by me to consume counterfeit oxy yourself, but you may not resell this under my watch.

I have a proposal that I need more substance behind. That any vendor selling fentanyl oxy or hydros or whatever sort of pressed pills must charge an equal price to that of the cheapest actual oxy or hydro or whatever available on my market. This is not a thing to be outlawed, but the ability to make profitable resale must be abolished. For all I know these could be resold by the buyer right back on a DNM! I see infrequent counterfeit sellers that pass off their fakes as the real thing like these on alphabay and I ban them. Their source? Not anything that I can do unless they are sourcing directly from alphabay, that's a self fulfilling problem.

Not just on alphabay this change must be made or else these vendors will just migrate to another market and continue doing this. This has to be a global rule for every market. I single out fentanyl because of all drugs sold, this one is the most easy to OD on.

Can you help me? If you have the ear of the admins or even the sellers themselves of these on any market, please make an argument towards this idea if you agree with me and how to deal with this.

Thank you.


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[19 Points] LeftCoastConnect:

That will be tough to enforce. If anything maybe ban fent pills advertised as Oxy replicas. If you compare it to bars, a bar vendor would get so much shit for pressing etiz or something in a Xanax press and selling it as xanax.


[5 Points] None:

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[3 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

Attempting to instigate a price control won't work. It virtually forces fentanyl tablet vendors to pretend that their tablets are oxycodone making oxy buying on alphabay a game of Russian roulette. Its as unenforceable as any guarantee or promise on the darknet, like alphabay's data policy. You probably didn't know this, but Alphabay has a section devoted to identity theft where personal details of real people are sold to "carders". Alphabay was founded by carders, I don't know if they have realized this but if they look up customers in facebook to get their date of birth, they have a full set of data to buy and sell like they've been doing for years.

Instead, insist that fentanyl MUST be a certain colour, such as Salmon pink or bright orange. It must be a colour which readily differentiates them from oxys to prevent them being resold as such. I didn't know that pressed fentanyl pills exist, like pressed LSD tablets. I assumed it was all blotter

But really, are people more likely to OD on correctly-dosed fentanyl pills than correctly-dosed oxycodone tablets?


[3 Points] -gimmebrains-:

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[3 Points] Clyde_Died:

WTF are you serious? You're going to give MORE money to the people who are causing the problem by counterfeiting them? Don't jack the prices up, stop buying/selling/manufacturing counterfeits.


[3 Points] DruggieKitten:

First of all, what about vendors who are capable of doing amazing things? I can sell LSD at as low as $1.25 a tab and still make a (very small) profit. If i did that, does it mean its fake? No, not really.

As far as fentanyl pills. I really dont understand why people do this. Why can't someone press a bunch of fentanyl pills with a unique design, that arent a copy of anything?


[2 Points] aboutthednm:

So alphabay will have their own sampling department by the sounds of it. Good luck.


[2 Points] None:

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[2 Points] illuthrowa:

And here I thought DNMs were experiments in free markets. You're proposing the institution of a price control system on a particular product which is not banned from being sold on your market because you don't like the price it is being sold for? Think about that.

The worst part is it would not even be successful. You will not get all the marketplaces on board with that plan anyway, and vendors using PGP will easily circumvent it via direct deals. Not that I'm advocating it, but I think it would be a better move for you to completely ban fentanyl and fentanyl analogs from your marketplace on the basis of them being poisons. Poisons are banned from AlphaBay, correct?

Obviously your market has to have rules and transgressors should be sanctioned.

I think a decent idea to prevent overdose deaths would be to ask fentanyl and fentanyl analog sellers (in whatever form they're sold) to point their customers to sellers of Narcan and encourage their customers (directly in their fentanyl listings) to buy lots of Narcan along with the fentanyl. Just a quick search on Grams reveals two sellers on AlphaBay and one on DreamMarket.

Education and easy implementation of a solution are the keys.


[2 Points] ItsShatterDay:

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[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] septic_shock:

Making the fent pressed pills the same price as the actual oxys? That'll just kill the vendors selling them. Seems unfair. I get harm reduction and all, but the fact that they're so much cheaper than the real oxy/hydro pills should be a dead giveaway to buyers that the pills aren't legit.

TL;DR I disagree.

Sorry if I haven't made myself clear, I'm pretty drunk now..


[1 Points] KnightoftheLions:

No. People want to buy cheaper fentanyl pills. Let them do it.


[1 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

If you are able to get a cross-marketplace agreement regarding fentanyl, why not get them all to agree not to exit scam? And not to sell-on customer shipping details to Russian carders?

Not all marketplaces will be as fundamentally protective of personal details, or object to their sale to carders, as the bloody city of Alphabay and it's data protection policy https://youtu.be/fEQTZrBdjf0


[1 Points] None:

this makes no sense. the only thing we can do is be vigilant and hope for the best. enforcing this would just cause vendors to lie about what they where selling and suppress negative feedback in any way possible.

a better idea is to not buy from them and encourage others to do the same.

edit: didnt mean to sound like a dick, but its wishful thinking, especially for a bunch of people who operate on the periphery of society who probably dont like regulations.


[1 Points] XanaxPlug:

Agreed 100%. Fentanyl is no fucking joke.


[1 Points] camstalk:

If I don't like something, I don't buy it. That is how I incite change.


[1 Points] Dr_Seuss_AlphaVendor:

Hi there everyone,

Just a quick announcement to let you all know that our Fentanyl Blotters are now half price, as we are trying to clear out the last of our stock before discontinuing this line of products. They are super cheap right now, so go ahead and take a look if opiates float your boat! We are on AlphaBay, Dream, and Valhalla, so whatever your preference, come on over.

TL:DR - 50% OFF FENTANYL BLOTTERS!!!

Kind regards, Dr_Seuss


[0 Points] MAXIPAD1923:

Youre recommending it be a rule we get ripped off. you probably are a counterfeit oxy vendor trying to get more money. people can resell them and be safe as well...to a degree. buying 1000 pills and selling 100 at atime it probably wouldnt work out too well. but its the darkweb, freedom isnt nice all the time. get over it


[-7 Points] MAXIPAD1923:

god damn trappy your re really a fucking bitch. this post pisses me off so much im posting twice. you are a freedom hating fucking bitch. this is the dark fucking web. jeez us fukin christ goto belize your fucking suck hard. dude.