Ways of getting cash out of the US with minimal loss?

Say you have 50k and you need it to get fast to another guy who is abroad.

Western Union/Moneygram is expensive and have limits on amounts.

With BTC you lose around 10% total as I see with cursory glance at all the price differences between market value/exchange fees and so on.Plus there's time and travel involved to set up different cash trades on LBC for this amount.

Is there any other (read cheaper) way to do it?


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[85 Points] Excill-:

Buy 50k worth of groceries so you will slowly save up money from not buying groceries for the next 10 years or so


[22 Points] 75730670998:

place your private keys to your wallet on a USB stick and shove it up your ass, much easier than trying to leave an airport with a suitcase filled with 100 dollar bills


[11 Points] None:

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[8 Points] n0m3er5numbers:

If you can't survive 10% on a 50k investment then you are better buying coins and letting them appreciate.


[7 Points] OpOnymousSurvivor:

DO NOT mail 50k in cash in one package - avoid mailing it at all, if possible. they are trained to detect cash, and can seize it without reason. Bulk cash also carries the scent of various drugs in the area - so if it wasn't sealed right, a drug k9 can and will sniff it out and alert LE. a majority of all US currency has traces of drugs on the paper

wherever the recipient is going to be, they can open a fresh bank account - either under their name or a false ID - and either open a shell business that accepts BTC or go through the steps required to legally trade BTC so they aren't hiding anything. The origin of the BTC is nobody's business, especially if the coins were all there to begin with and aren't constantly coming in on a daily basis.

off the markets to repeat customers is a simple way to avoid records from being kept and fees subtracted from transactions.

assuming you go the BTC route - 50k is a lot of coin to move - and it would need to be done pretty quick to avoid any crashes in BTC price, but it is definitely possible and, if done right, the quickest and most anonymous way to move that much cash.

to start with, when you are buying the BTC - always MAKE ANONYMOUS CASH DEPOSITS! Aim for between 3-4k each time, never going over 5k and never less than 2k - BofA ISNT ANON, US BANK ISNT ANON, CREDIT UNIONS ARE NOT ANON - use 3-4 big time sellers each once a day or every other day until your cash is converted to BTC. BE CAREFUL that the BTC seller isn't LE - most of the big time sellers are all registered with the govt and they must keep records of their sales - keep this in mind always.


[7 Points] guysir123:

ITT: A ton of people who've never done this before and have no idea what they are talking about.

Anyone who has done this before or knows how to do this, is not going to post it publicly on a forum. For one, a lot of people make their money solving this problem for people. Secondly, a lot of people make their money making sure everyone else does NOT know how to do this. Third, it takes a lot of time, effort, and usually money, to figure out how to do this, something you'll be reluctant to just tell others for free.

It's not copacetic, basically, to tell people this kind of thing for free - to tell your competition how to do this for free. As obvious in the comments you'll have plenty of people with conjecture, and as far as I see, almost all of it bad.

50k really is not much money though (in terms of difficulty moving). But paying 10% to move 50k is not too bad, I would recommend you just eat that because you don't know what you are doing and don't do this regularly.

Guaranteeing 90% makes it through is a whole lot better than losing 100% of it. I know quite a few people who've lost 20k+ doing some of the things recommended in this thread trying to solve this problem.

Besides the market rate by washers is points, ie point per 10 (10%). You don't get flat rate unless you got one on retainer and that's big boy stuff.

EDIT: My advice to you - offer the 50 grand in cash to the person you owe, pay for them to fly out, wine and dine them, so spend maybe 3-5 grand on their expenses, and make it their problem. Hell you spend 9 grand on them and you're still saving yourself a grand. A lot of people will shut up and deal with the headache on their own when they see 50 grand in a t-shirt bag. Hopefully they'll stop bothering you when you hand it over and figure it out on their own. They should have the resources to answer this problem on their own anyways.

Also bear in mind that moving 50K out of the country legally is around 5% so you really shouldn't be crying about 10%.


[8 Points] mikeldon:

My uncle provide this kind a service. I'm forget what it called, but basically this. Lets say A from US need to send money to B in UK. And C from UK need to send money to D in US. So my uncle will arrange for A to send money to D in US. And C send money to B in UK.

Edit: wrong order


[5 Points] infr4r3d:

When you start dealing in larger numbers you must ALWAYS account for some loss.

Ask any Fortune 100/500 company in the fucking world. Nothing is perfect unless your protected from the law(big Banks etc).

If you shoved your USB up your anus wouldn't that be fucking hilarious if you were selected to go through a body scanner!


[5 Points] ReneeDeVillefort:

Haha no. If it's in cash form, mail it. Otherwise you're fucked because it will be reported.


[3 Points] YellowMellowDuck:

Bank transfer is not an option? If this has to be anonymous you will loose about 10% anyway.


[3 Points] RedditAccount28:

Give it to charity then travel to us and suck 500 dicks at 100 dollars each or 1000 dicks at 50 dollars each in order to recoup the money


[2 Points] ghostfacechillah:

Is it in cash or cyptos? You could try mailing the cash within something else (Books or magazines work well for smaller amounts) or you could possibly buy platinum and ship that. I think 50k in platinum would be less than 50 oz, so like 3 pounds or so. Much less conspicuous to mail the metal than the cash imo.


[2 Points] JamieLong123:

Honestly you need to put that money into gold and transport it or buy currency on an online shop (like csgo markets for example) and get a refund sent as a cheque.

Those two have very little loss involved. I personally just run money through my online business. It's very cheap and very fast.


[2 Points] outgrewcondos:

Go to diamond district in NYC, buy 4 Rolex presidentials at around the 10-12k price and take/send them to wherever. Easy to sell somewhat depending on where they are


[2 Points] dumb1dumb1dumb1:

Convert to BTC during a dip, wait for market movement to cover costs and break even or come out with more


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] ecstasais:

TransferWise


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] None:

Western Union with Fake IDs stop being a cheap ass. You wanna be cheap? This game ain't for you, go big or go home.


[1 Points] scoobydrool:

Chinese people, hit up china town, they send it to any china town in the world, no problem


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] CognitiveDissident7:

Buy it piecemeal on from someone(s) on LBC in person. should only be 5-7% over market rate. Use a burner to contact them.


[1 Points] JeffSessions_DNM:

Probably would have been something to consider prior to taking on 50k of debt. Good luck!


[1 Points] ThrowAwayExpect1234:

Look man I know a guy who can explain to you how to do this. I'm with him right now and he said for $3000 in BTC (half up front and half after the explanation) he will explain it step by step on WICKR with PGP encryption.

Shoot me a PM if you are interested and I will send you the key info points he needs to ensure it would work his way.