Safe-mail.net to remove 250k accounts involved in illegal activity

We are sorry! Safe-mail is not ready yet.

Safe-mail.net is down for critical maintainance.

The Safe-mail.net system suffered a major storage hardware crash.
About 80% of user's data is not affected by the crash, as we already moved it to a new system during the last few months.
The rest is either to be salvaged from the crashed storage, or will be restored from the Backup system.

At this time we will permanently remove about 250,000 user accounts that were involved in activity which violates the Safe-mail.net Agreement and policy.
Note: Only those who violates our policy will be deleted. Most accounts are not affected.

Free web based registration to Safe-mail.net will not be available.
Free accounts will be opened by sending a request to Safe-mail.net.

In the near future, separate subsystems will be used for Free and Premium accounts.
This will enable better service and even enable shutdown of the Free subsystem without affecting the Premium users.


Comments


[25 Points] dnm_ash:

if the dont monitor the email and it is "safe" how exactly do they know what accounts were involved in "illegal" activity?

"illegal" where, what jurisdiction?

it's BS, safe-mail is just another honeypot probably hiding under the guise of we got hacked etc" to explain how someone got hold of the data.

be afraid


[12 Points] NoWayGringo:

Safe-mail is the last email provider I would ever consider using


[7 Points] None:

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[5 Points] TheRealSwiss:

www.gmail.com because ehhmYOLO


[3 Points] upstatebars:

protonmail ftw


[3 Points] coffeencreme:

What are the terms and conditions that are supposed to have been violated? Is it illegal activity, seriously?


[2 Points] None:

SAFE-MAIL has been unsafe without gpg for years i remeber back in the day the steroids guys were getting busted right and left from using safe-mail without gpg.


[2 Points] CrackingYourPassword:

Everyone needs to assume Safe-Mail has been compromised and stop using it.


[2 Points] None:

PSA no major email provider is personally invading your privacy, and none are ever likely to suffer this big of a vulnerability, these paid for services are infinitely more likely to be LE in disguise or read your emails for fun


[2 Points] CookyDough:

Perhaps this is a final reason not to use safe-mail.net for any reason? Hopefully so.

For those wishing to check if their account is still active, I found a login page that might work: https://orange.safe-mail.net/cgi-bin/orange.SAFe-mail.net/gate

I checked an old safe-mail account I haven't logged into for about 4 years (and always used tor for) and it said:

Internal error: couldn't display alert of error xxx !

I'm not sure if that is because that server (orange) is for paid accounts only (I think it is, and my account was a free account), or if that server is down while the login page is up, or if my account was closed / deleted. It's unlikely that my account was removed for being too old since I've logged into other accounts after 2-4 years of non-use and they were still working let alone existing.

Other reasons a'plenty not to use safe-mail.net:


[1 Points] knotmyrealname:

Guess I'm done with these guys. Never felt right anyway.


[1 Points] alfabi:

Safe-mail is down for couple of weeks. Any mail provider should be pgp and acessed trough tor.


[1 Points] doubledoseopimpin:

This wouldn't be a problem if people used PGP and not relied on "Safe"-mail to keep you "safe". C'mon, it should be common knowledge on here that you should be encrypting all incriminating e-mails/messages.


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[1 Points] None:

To bad countermail is java based and wont run with tor there layout is nice.


[1 Points] innominat:

Update from Nov 20th.

Fri Nov 20 07:40 EST 2015 We are sorry! Safe-mail is not ready yet.

Safe-mail.net is down for critical maintainance.

During the many and long days since the crash, we experience the wider version of Murphy's law: Anything that can go wrong, will—at the worst possible moment. We know that apologies will not change anything, so in addition to our sincere apologies we are taking actions to make the system better. Now we are in the final stages of putting everything together and hope Safe-mail.net will be available again not later then Tuesday, the 24th of November. This will be a completely new system - new equipment, new operating system and recompiled system with small modifications to match the new environment. We hope to have a much stable system. There will be other changes. The two main ones are: no self-registration and separate system for Premium users. During the first weeks we will continue to work intensively on different aspect of the system. After that period, there will be one hour every week for maintenance. During that hour we would like user not to sign-in, though most of that time the system will be up and running. We will announce details soon.

We expect several issues:

  1. Because of the long down time we expect higher rate of password lost. Normally, we can't help in such situation, but at this time we will do whatever is possible to help, mainly Premium users. Details will be published soon.

  2. As a result of extensive cleanup in the list of users, we expect that some innocent users were removed as well. We kept ALL data and will published further information for those who lost their account.


[0 Points] SpecialAgentDildo:

I like mykolab.com for many reasons I would suggest giving them a look. It's not a free account but they accept btc.