Opiod users: advice on trying opiods?

so my girl had some opium (she thinks) a while back and she'd like to try some again. Thing is, she described it as really, really good, and after talking to her about it for a while it sounds like she was really smoking black tar.

I've heard opium is actually pretty underwhelming, and I've heard a few H users say the "do it once, get addicted" shit is overrated.

I'm a veteran druggie (lots and lots of k, mxe, mdma, ghb, etc., etc.), I always test my shit, I always do small doses of new substances to find the sweet spot ... I'm not an idiot, in other words.

So here's my question. If one wanted to dabble in opiods for the first time, where should one start? Is opium really overrated? Is H that dangerous? What would you recommend to someone in my position?

P.S. if MXE were still widely available, I probably wouldn't be looking to branch out, but ... here we are.


Comments


[5 Points] LittleSk1pper:

Opiates, like many other drugs, require the utmost respect. I've been dabling with various types for a bit over a year now and there's a few things to consider.

  1. You will have withdrawls. This is part of the deal. One friend told me that opiates are like a way to borrow happiness from the future. This is pretty accurate. Don't go longer than a few consecutive days without returning to base-line and paying back the piper. Try to ration your doses so you come off gradually. NEVER avoid withdrawls via continued use. You are just kicking the can down the road and it will only get worse.

  2. You need to be disciplined. Make rules for yourself about how much you're allowed to order per month and stick to it. Better yet, do what I do and don't allow yourself to order unless a list of conditions are met. The conditions I typically use are: all bills for the month must be paid as well as being all caught up with work/school. You'll be amazed how motivating this can be and it regulates your use well too.

  3. Smoking BTH is nice but IV is the best experience. If you're just starting out I recommend smoking BTH. It can be difficult to find some that isn't total garbage, but if you do it's a good ROA since you can gradually dose. However, if you want to branch out to a much more enjoyable experience, I very much recommend banging hydromorphone and oxymorphone. The rush you get is unmatched anywhere and the residual high is nice too. I don't recommend IVing street shit. If you're going to use IV do as much research as you can, let your body heal completely between sessions, and keep your gear and pharmaceuticals clean.

Opiates are my favorite type of drug for general use, but they aren't for weak-willed or people with a shitty life (or bad support networks). If you do decide to venture into this world, be safe, do a lot of research, and have fun!


[3 Points] tusp:

just do kratom or poppy tea if you're opiate naive. once you tolerance goes up, those options will never again be available as euphoriants, just something to take the edge off withdrawals. ease into that shit.

i had a friend that hadn't done opiates recreationally ever, and she started banging dope. 6 months later she sold her car. that's an unusual extreme, like you'd have to work pretty hard to get an addiction like that, but the point is, do "soft" opiods while you have the chance.


[2 Points] Toxoplasma_gondiii:

Honestly stay away from opiates. That shit ruins lives. I have seen and felt what they can do to people. Being dope sick sucks and cravings are the worst. I honestly have been doing nothing but psychadelics and amphetamines for a while and I have been feeling great and really kick butt in school and life generally.


[2 Points] None:

I think you should just go with something else too but you came here for advice about doing drugs, not quitting them.

Oxy 30mg IR (roxys) are what got my hooked completely. They are heroin in a nice pill form without the strong sedation.

On the flip side you can get morphine in 30 60 and 100mg pill form. The red round stamped M 100mg morphine pills used to get me SOOOO fucked up. I'm talking puking in my friends bathtub for an hour type of fucked up. So high.

10mg IR Oxymorphone (Opana) is considered to be the holy grail of opiates. Stronger than oxycodone and heroin, this is the real deal. You have to snort though, no eating. Take one 10mg IR Opana, cut in quarters. Snort a quarter and enjoy the rest of your life.

I've been clean for a while and that is making me drool at the bus stop just thinking about it.

Don't worry about graduating to heroin just yet. Yes, your girl smoked black tar. But heroin is an acquired taste and once you do oxy you might find you don't like it. I prefer the "clean" high that comes with oxyc and oxym. Morphine and heroin just make me drowsy. A good drowsy but I prefer stimulants anyway.

I've been clean for a while so this was a nice stroll down memory lane. Be careful.


[1 Points] MyDNMReviews:

Don't


[1 Points] The_Grid_Is_Up:

I personally would start with pharma grade pills.


[1 Points] None:

I've done heroin and perc 30s.. I would prefer a perk 30 10/10 times. So my suggestion to you is get yourself a pharmacy perc30 and crush & snort it. I only say this because it would be my preference rather than smoking it.


[1 Points] drimilr:

She prob doesnt want to come to terms that she smoked heroin (bth); It does carry a stigma for sure. But opium is really rare in the US and much supposed opium is really red rock opium incense, which has 0 good shit in it.

Smoking bth is good heroin intro though. Very dreamy, very lightly noddy

Pharm pills are probably the safest, most reliable (prediactable dosing), and most expesnive way of doing opiods.

Strong will may be necessary when testing the world of opiods.


[1 Points] pharmaphilreview:

yes dont go straight to injecting or even snorting, build up somewhat of a tolerance before you go that far, start off smoking and grab a 100mg piece each, after like 3-4 tokes you' ll either be hi, nodding or all out sleeping, just take it slow and space out your tokes to see how you like it/ how your bidy reacts to it, ya just never know you might be allergic to it, or to whatever its cut with


[1 Points] druggieslut:

As far as I know, opium is mostly unavailable in the US, and everyone I've ever met who claimed to have smoked it, pretty much described black tar heroin.

You can grow poppies legally as long as you don't start a farm of them of course...

I wouldnt suggest anyone use opiates who had not tried them yet. They are a road straight to hell. I think they are great fun, but I was introduced to them through broken bones. They are delicious.

Marijuana is much safer and quite fun in itself. Smoke it up!


[1 Points] throwawayfastxanax:

I think your best results would be to post this to r/opiates. I use a differet name over there and constantly tell people what they are getting themselves into. At this point in my life I am already exhausted of hearing people say "But I will never do heroin"

The worst of all the people are those those that say. "I have strong will power and wot let myself get addicted". If you want to start messing with opiates realize these drugs are stronger than you are. they deserve high amounts of respect.