Why is there no system to punish vendors who list, login, but never answer messages and let orders auto cancel?

I feel like there exists some mechanism to limit the amount of wasted time/effort/coin that goes into ordering, when the vendor doesn't feel like you're worth his time.

I've learned that if I want to guarantee a product, I'll have to place several orders with different vendors. My going rate is about 66% of the time, my orders go unfulfilled and auto cancel. I mainly order concentrates, and the game is fucked.

When GrandpaJoe doesn't have anything listed, I really don't have anyone else to order from (no offense HumboldtFarms, I don't trust you) that is professional. Please don't tell me to "order from X they're great!" I don't care about individual vendors, I'm concerned with the whole thing.

It's really annoying when you have several BTC worth of coin tied up, and the market tanks, and the orders you placed don't receive responses to the messages and auto cancel - leaving you without product and a serious dent in the wallet for your wasted time.

There's gotta be a way to reward vendors for being professional, and discourage people from just listing products to list products, which is what it seems like is happening.

It would be easier, IMO, if users could still review after the order has been auto cancelled, to discuss the vendors willingness to communicate, or other things.

TL;DR: Vendors should be punished for letting orders auto cancel. This would encourage more professionalism, strengthening the bond of vendors/buyers.

You might argue, what if a vendor gets locked up/drunk and passes out in Mexico is offline for a week by accident/mauled by hippies....none of those things sound like activities a professional vendor would partake in.

Perhaps if TotalAbandonedOrders > 5 this week, disable the account for a week?

Just throwing ideas out there for us to start talking about, now that we've got some solid markets, we need to work on making them better places for both vendors and buyers alike.


Comments


[20 Points] None:

Need to choose your vendors better.


[15 Points] deezyyyy:

66% auto-cancel rate? WTF? I've been ordering over a year, several packs a month, and don't think I've had that happen a single time...


[7 Points] pinkprincess1:

How on earth can you have a 66% auto cancel rate? Serious question by the way. Do you know why? I don't have anything like that and I've been around since olden times.


[1 Points] lnsaf:

They are under no obligation to confirm your order.

That being said, they are also under no obligation to cancel your order.

They are not taking anything from you, simply ignoring you. Therefore, they are not doing anything wrong. Choosing to ignore someone who you have taken no money from, is not wrong, in any way.


[2 Points] None:

While I agree that OP needs to do some more research if he is getting a 66% auto cancel rate, that doesn't always avoid this problem completely. I research my vendors heavily. Reddit reviews, forum reviews, check pictures, read feedback, and I AWLAYS check the last login date. Even with all this, it has happened to me a few times. Sometimes its just shit luck (vendor took an unexpected vacation the same day I placed order, even after confirming with me that my order would be shipped that day). Other times, its due to a market crash. There really is no way to avoid this completely, IMO. But I understand where hes coming from. It sucks to have funds tied up a few days because some vendor decides to ignore your order.


[2 Points] jakefatman:

Have you tried reporting these vendors to the BBB?

It's drugs, stupid!

You are barking up the wrong tree by blaming vendors. Maybe lobby the markets to have a 24 hour auto cancellation window instead of 4 days. Why punish the vendor when he hasn't broken any rules?

It sucks when some vendors have to wait 14 days for their payments to auto finalize, but I don't hear anyone looking for a way to punish the buyers when this shit happens.


[1 Points] None:

I have only ever had this once and it was BudCentral, so that was my own fault for not researching him first.


[1 Points] illusionslayer:

According to the other commenters' reactions, it's time for you to start listening when people say "order from X, they're great!"


[1 Points] don_crackavelli:

The is the DNMs, sorry but that won't happen.


[1 Points] Malaysia_flight_370:

The only orders ever cancelled were 1, because the vendor didnt properly state he did not ship to my country, 2 I asked for a vendor to cancel


[1 Points] None:

Mate, if you are getting a 66% auto cancel rate, you are going to the "too cheap/good to be true" type listings. VERIFY THE INTEGRITY OF YOUR VENDORS OR DO NOT ORDER.