Worrying about possible GammaGoblin LSD lab test, and LSD lab tests generally.

OK, so I'm considering sending a tab of Gammagoblin's LSD to Energy Control, UNLESS someone else has already done so, or is already in the process of doing so (?).

Here's what's bothering me, though: Does the testing of one single tab from, say, a 50-tab sheet, really say anything about the strength of the OTHER tabs on the same sheet?

Wouldn't it be entirely possible - hell, even likely - for one tab to have, say, 78 mcg., another to have 97, the next 63, the next 127, and so on and so forth, all due to human error (say, the unsteadiness of the chemist's hand) or faulty equipment or whatever?

More generally: Is consistent tab-to-tab strength even POSSIBLE when the sheets are laid by (human) hand? Is tab-to-tab consistency something we can realistically expect from our vendors, and practically speaking how the hell would we test for it? I can't send all 50 tabs to E.C., y'know...

All the best, andblowyourhousedown, a (rather anxious) possible GG tester.


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[12 Points] DNMd:

Here’s what’s bothering me, though: Does the testing of one single tab from, say, a 50-tab sheet, really say anything about the strength of the OTHER tabs on the same sheet? Wouldn’t it be entirely possible – hell, even likely – for one tab to have, say, 78 mcg., another to have 97, the next 63, the next 127, and so on and so forth, all due to human error (say, the unsteadiness of the chemist’s hand) or faulty equipment or whatever?

I can confidently say that yes, it does. The way sheets are layed it would be impossible to have such variance in doses like you describe. The LSD is disolved in solution and layed onto the blotter paper. A microgram or two in difference can be expected.

Barring any degradation after the fact, the only time you would see such inaccurate dosing is if the vendor/dealer was dropping each dose individually by pipette/dropper on candy, paper, etc.

Having said this, I urge you to please follow through with the test results. If and when you have them can you post them here and over at /r/dnmavengers?

Thanks!


[3 Points] MLP_is_my_OPSEC:

If you do get this done, consider posting the results over at /r/DNMAvengers. I believe /u/KamajiTheBoiler will be able to answer this question for you as well.


[2 Points] Bibidiboo:

I can get it government tested for 12.50 in holland.. hmm


[1 Points] UDNM:

Theoretically the LSD should be evenly concentrated across the whole sheet, that not only means that every tab should have the same dose but the dose should be evenly concentrated across each tab as well. So no matter how small you break up the tabs each piece should have the same amount of LSD.

That's theoretically though, what happens in reality is usually a different story...


[1 Points] diOpAnonMu:

One way to check the sheet for evenness is to use a UV light. If you see hotspots, it was not laid evenly. Be as brief as possible though, UV light will degrade your acid.


[1 Points] Ryan221:

The real question is do they drop onto each individual tab or submerge it and calculate the absorption capacity of each square.


[1 Points] throwawaynicon3000:

Sacrifice 2-3 blotters from diff parts of the sheet(2 of opposite edges and one from the middle)


[1 Points] None:

I know this isn't really on topic whatsoever but there hasn't been a lot of recent trip reports on GG. So I was wondering if you have tried his stuff recently and how it holds up? I have an order coming soon so I'm curious


[1 Points] andblowyourhousedown:

OP here.

So we heard back from GG, and here's what he said:

"Each square gets an individual drop from liquid. Each drop splashes over the target square and adjacent ones, so after soaking all squares liquid is equally distributed over the sheet. Differences shouldn't be higher than 5% on each tab :) Hence the range: 100-110mcg. gg"

So, that's... NOT what we wanted to hear, right!?

DNMd wrote that "the only time you would see such inaccurate dosing is if the vendor/dealer was dropping each dose individually by pipette/dropper," and that that was uncommon because "it would simply take too many man hours to do one by one, and also as you say is prone to human error." But as GG writes, he DOES in fact do it individually, one by one - "each square gets an individual drop from liquid."

As was pointed out by another user via PM, though, "you can get lab grade micropipettes which deliver a consistent amount of liquid each time. So I suppose we can't know for sure."

So it's back to square one then I guess!


[0 Points] ShulginsCat:

Maybe but we don't want people wasting 10 tabs just to prove that it is or isn't consistent. We'll have one data point from your tab, another from someone else, and so on. Over time it may converge to a result that gives us actual information. And yeah, people have to stop panicking about every single test result as if that makes or breaks a vendor's overall quality. See also: The BlueViking Crisis of 2015.


[-2 Points] LittleNiggerBaby4:

Why do you think that it's likely that GG can't lay blotter on an even surface?

Nobody is going to send a gammagoblin tab, don't kid yourself. If you want to see gammagoblin test results then you are going to have to send in a tab to Energy Control yourself, and pay the $70.