What is the current state of tumbling?

So with alot of tumblers being shut down these past few months, I see people now saying either to not tumble period because they could be honeypots or scammers, or do it via Monero but I still cant figure that shit out cause they dont even let you use MyMonero via Tails/Tor :( Grams Helix seems to still be up and running are they still safe to use? Its been really hard to get any updates or help that arent pre shutdown era and I just wanna know how everbodys moving nowadays.


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[27 Points] None:

niggas is doin cartwheels now


[11 Points] callmebawk:

Monero my niqqa


[8 Points] None:

It's still useless


[8 Points] CrankyBulb:

Don't tumble - waste of time.


[8 Points] protekt0r:

You can use my Monero from Tor. You just need to make several attempts to get a circuit that doesn't have a malicious node. The site will inform and block you if it detects a reversed proxy. Keep trying and you'll get through. If all else fails, go to a coffee shop and use a VPN (just don't buy shit there with a credit card!). You shouldn't be accessing DNM's and tumblers from your own IP address anyway, regardless of Tor. Tor's anonymity is a joke these days, obviously.

Hang in there.. the Monero "Kovri" (I2P) update is just around the corner.


[5 Points] None:

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[2 Points] clothedmike:

Is it still useless if I got my btc off of coinbase linked to my bank account?


[1 Points] HardC0r3:

I recently used Helix Light, Coinmixer.se and Penguin Mixer. All coins arrieved.

Would recommend to exchange to xmr before mixxing.


[1 Points] MagentaIsALie:

People are preferring to use coins with privacy built-in these days.

I.e. coin in > exchange/shapeshift/xmr.to > XMR wallet 1 > XMR wallet 2 > exchange/shapeshift > coin out


[1 Points] Lyzergic:

Yes Tumbling is essentilly useless. Just think your mixing your "dirty" coins in with other "dirty" coins. How the hell this had made sense to be people is beyond me. And trust me they don't alter the algorithm they used very often if at all, and because algorithmic functions are essentially mathematical logic progressions they can be uncovered via pattern recognition. which is what an algorithm is made to do, automate things in the exact same manner.

to 'tumble' is to swap clean coins for hot ones 'other' ones or hot coins for clean ones. Wallets especially with BIP44 implemented are becoming very unique and because the ledger is published and bitcoin relies heavily on verification of progressive encryption algorithms the patterns with which coins are moving, to whom where they land and .... like 'HumboltFarms' to a CoinBase account under your name...

If you think about it the only way to tumble it to sell the coins and reacquire them. Make 2 accounts on LBC and 'sell' yourself your hot coins. Or send the coins from your actual exchange cough NOT Coinbase cough to a pass-through btc exchange account (preferably on another platform) sell those coins and require new ones very very shortly after. Send from there to a couple in-between wallets to the final destination and they are at that point now safe to use, and you probably saved yourself from relying on a third-party fucking you over, or taking 3-5% off the top. Its a few long winded steps buut at least your always in control. Does anyone, with any technical block-chain analytic expertise, see anything wrong with this? Or even better, I'd like to hear what the Feds in the building think of this.? Couud YOU really follow the money with this method, and prove without reasonable doubt that such was the case?