When the main market topples why do all the vendors always move to the next scammiest market?

  1. SR1 (the king) gets taken down, you all jump on

  2. "Sheep market" - got it, not sketchy at all, admin jacks the escrow and directs all its sheared users to

  3. Tor market - you all obey and it gets slaughtered like a month later. Oh i hear some kids stole the SR flag lets get back on that boat that just sunk a month ago

  4. SR2 - Lightning never strikes twice in the same place rightguyz? right? Oops looks like it wasnt so much of a boat as it was a dingy made out of inflated prophylactics. hey i hear theres this market run by experienced thieves called

  5. Evolution - you all pile on, it topples as predicted, everyone loses their shirt, oh well lets try

  6. Agora - Darknets oldest service btcfog pimps this, we luck out until the admin has to jet, everyone gets their coin back, holy shit a honest market high fives! ok now what, oh hey i hear theres this market run by experienced thieves called

  7. Alphabay - Ahahahahahhahahahaaha. This one has really got ur nuts in a vice NO FE, ahahahahahahahaha yeah thats gonna end well.

  8. Nucleus - We all know youre gonna end up here, you can feel it in your bones, must find the ricketyiest piece of scamming anti-multisig anti-FE cashgrabbiest shitmarket to vend on, you gotta do it, what are you waiting for? Do it, do it now! the nonrefundable vendor bond is going up to $150, what you thought getting robbed was free? Fuck no its $150.


Comments


[14 Points] GrandWizardsLair:

AlphaBay may require new vendors to use escrow until a certain number of sales, but we have FE listings at GWL AlphaBay and so do many other AlphaBay vendors.

As for your remaining words of wisdom: vendors go where the traffic is. You may see a bunch of sheep traveling from one failing market to the next. We see customers. We also budget for exit scams and take pains to minimize our losses if/when a market goes tits-up. We lost about $200 when Abraxas went down, and earned enough during our tenure there to write it off as a business expense.


[5 Points] OhFuckILostItAll:

Because it's their livelihood. Because despite your best intentions and back seat driving (and like a bitch to) there is no 'insider' info. No clubhouse with which all people in the profession of vending can break bread and bitch about you all to unwind.

Listen hindsight is 20/20, or so some have murmured throughout time.

But the truth is this. Shut the fuck up and go do it yourself. You ignorant degenerate. How about you produce instead of just taking all you life.

Edit: vendors deposits ARE certainly refundable on AB Read a book sometime. Hippie asshole .


[4 Points] samx3i:

It's not helpful to point out what people are doing wrong without offering a better alternative.

Besides, you say this all with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight. If people knew then what they know now, of course they wouldn't have used those.


[3 Points] IllegalWeedAccount:

I can say that at least one former Nucleus vendor got his deposit back, with little trouble and only a slight delay (about 6 hours).

Can't speak for anyone else.

Also, FE is possible on AlphaBay, as is Multisig.

So long as you aren't half cocked or just unlucky as fuck like Gil from The Simpsons, most of your listed hazards are (and were) easy enough to skirt.

While you were all losing your brown eggs on Evolution and Agora, people were vending quite happily on Nucleus, even though it was (as it is and has always been) slow, glitchy, run by wankers and full of scrotes, the difference is, the people back then only had a vendor bond of $66 in the hole, and then the smart people left and went to AlphaBay when it's vendor bond was still cheap and are now laughing at the refugees coming in and paying almost double.

People are greedy, they want more sales and more money so they go to whichever market has the high footfall but that's the one you're most likely to die on.

You don't want to be on that market, you want to be on the next one, and then move on when the time is right.

Literally as soon as Nucleus' arse falls out, the smart people will be asking for their vendor bonds back on AlphaBay.


[3 Points] redditulousfun:

You missed quite a few and not sure where you got the no fe on alphabay but i have not had a issue fe'ing for a trusted vendor there.

The other thing is both nucleus and alphabay have been around almost as long as agora but guess both markets are alive and well .


[3 Points] aSchizophrenicCat:

This post is incredibly stupid. Not like anyone actually knew these markets would exit scam until it actually happened.

Vendors just set up shop on whatever markets they can, usually the market with the most traffic. They don't sit around and contemplate which market might exit scam in the future.


[1 Points] 743287r89ewyhfkdjc:

Although I do see what you're saying, do you have a better idea? Because I think that's where everyone is at. Impatient, want to make money, and want to get high.


[1 Points] redditulousfun:

Also not sure why this post required a throw away lol


[1 Points] FormerlyAristotle:

AB is way ahead of most other marketplaces. As far as scamming is concerned, AB has multisig, partial FE, FE, and escrow. Literally, what more can you ask for? I don't know of any other ways to pay a vendor besides a direct deal, but thats basically still FE. Personally, with the exception of Agora, AB is my favorite market yet, but you dismiss it immediately for something that isn't even true. Have you even been on this market at all? Look at the front page, and you can see a steady attempts to add features to enhance the user experience. Look at the left of the screen, and you'll see a bunch of mirrors. If they plan on scamming their user populus, they are doing a wonderful job of covering it up. However..

Whenever the AB market decides the heat is too bad, and they shut down (provided the feds don't beat them to it), they may very well exit scam, but for now, I wouldn't be too concerned because the site keeps being improved, but maybe thats exactly what they want me to think......


[1 Points] iterator5:

So I've been around since the early days of SR and I can say that the practices I formed there have prevented me from ever being scammed or loosing any btc from the old pump and dump. There really isn't much difference between the original SR and all the rest that followed except for the fact that the market was centralized (it wasn't really, but compared to how it is now).

If you think any of the previous central markets were any more secure or less scammy than what is available now you just aren't looking at this from the right perspective. This isn't amazon. If you loose money its because you are either storing money on the market's wallet or because you are to willing to jump into a transaction with a vendor who isn't clearly in the midst of making a succession of good transactions.


[1 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

Well, because every marketplace ever has got busted or exit scammed, with the exception of blackbank and Agora.

You know which are the honest ones - East India company - but it's terrible from a customer point of view unless you know which vendor you are going to buy from already.

They've got that multisig obsession that they think vendors like, but it allows a cop to buy from us and watch his bitcoin pop straight into our own wallet then go to the exchange.

Nucleus works like silk road or agora, with normal collective escrow that they can steal, but which doesn't tie a vendor to his wallet. Anyone can go on it and buy stuff during their lunch hour, and it's not alphabay.

That's why.

Also, good markets have a high vendor bond to discourage low-quality vendors. but most vendors are low quality so they go where its cheap. Remeber that most of the vendors on the crappy markets will scam eventually.


[1 Points] Molly-Cyrus:

Crazy man..you make my funny parts tingle.


[1 Points] local_residents:

Am I the only one that went from SR1 to Agora and the to Nucleus? I haven't had to deal with half the exit scams dumbass OP has.


[0 Points] MDMangel:

It's sort of a vicious circle. Vendors vend on markets that bail, then move to other markets, that bail, then move to other markets .....

DD with a trusted vendor is the only true way to break the cycle.


[0 Points] yalldontknowjack:

You forgot the two recent markets that actually did scam
9. MEM a fucking LOTR themed social media site. That didn't allow withdrawals unless you purchased something.
10. Abraxas, looked and felt exactly like Agora(copy-paste), I can't believe anyone trusted them.