Pandora Admin. "Money stuck in Escrow? Well its only a small % I'm too lazy to fix it"

So we get this gem from our glorious leader Alice. It hasn't gone down too well with the few vendors that are left and the people who still trying to get refunds on money stuck in Escrow. Sadly the warning on this site is so out of date its funny to read. It should be updated, but despite many calls from people on here and promises that the Mods "would have a look" nothing has happened.

Alices post in full.


Few words from me after longer time:

  1. About people who might think, i am "stealing" escrow money. This is just NOT TRUE. I made enought money from transactions and commissions, i will not be able to ever transfer that bitcoins to real money. I just don`t need to steal few btc from "dead transactions" when vendor and customer can not agree on resolution, or vendor gone scam. I never ever created single vendor account or modify database or steal anything, i just take what i earned. Believe it or not.

1.1 Some people who have still money in escrow is because my laziness (combined with paranoia of implement something new due to security reasons - pandora as is now is stable, proven and secure). And i am sorry for that. Problem is, people who have money stuck in escrow are statistically not more than 1% of users, but they shout most. Escrow system is working only to certain point and most of problems are, escrow system is not limited by time. But in world of anonymous exchange like this, either side cant be guaranteed hapinnes even with escrow system, because we can not prove and also cant be judges of every transaction. I understand it of course. but this is not ebay with guarantees. I still hope i will find motivation to implement and test new features for pandora market, which i already started but, dut to lack of motivation, i must say i stopped, now i am motivated again for some reason to open doors for new quality vendors and hopefully implement something new. At leas most requested, but i don`t want to make any more fake promises.

  1. I became very paranoid and i am checking just time to time, because of my personal security.

  2. Is padora still alive ? I can say big YES. I will not tell numbers, numbers gone little down during holiday probably, but pandora is still expediting large number of sales/deposits/transactions daily. Number of transactions is big, but truth is it is not growing, but i am fine with that.

  3. Is pandora becoming dead ? I dont think so. Transactions are going on. Problem might be vendor registrations is closed for very long time, because i wanted to keep only good proven vendors on site, which isnt good for growth either revenue, but i always wanted only few better vendors rather than tons of shitty vendors.

4.1. We will start verify new vendors and keep them hight quality so customers have better selection of products.

So what i want to say is this in short: Sorry for some fake promises i made. I didn`t steal single bitcoins so far. I am very paranoid about my security so i am not able to talk here everyday, i was happy to seee other markets popping up as i am not only one under spot now, even if i want, i just can have good time chating with you guys on forum. And last thing is i want still make pandora better place at least most trusted and longest operating.

Last words: I feel commited to pandora comunity because it changed lot for me. For that reason i feel motivated to make pandora better, but i just want be honest enough to not promise anything.


So after making promises after hack and those promises are still available for all to see under the warning posted here. He finishes with "i just want be honest enough to not promise anything"

Yes Pandora is a disaster most people know this. Although any noob might think things were ok, as the warning promises to have things fixed by March. So they must be fixed right?


Comments


[6 Points] Dope_For_Days:

"I didn`t steal single bitcoins so far."


[8 Points] obsidianchao:

People still use this fucking market?

Granted, people still use SR2... yeah, maybe people are that stupid.


[2 Points] throwawwwey:

For anybody not in the know. (Noobs)

Pandora was hacked last March. The Admin promised to get things back on track. Promises were made. None were followed through.

People have money stuck on Escrow. The admin wont release it. There are scammers all over that site and they are not being removed. In fact look at Pureheaven on here. He simply cannot a get a reply from anybody at Pandora to try and get his account back. They are just ignoring him. He is a vendor for over a year!


[3 Points] Trappy_Pandora:

No matter how far I get away from Pandora, I still can't help but feel like its got a claw still in me.


[3 Points] gwern:

Problem is, people who have money stuck in escrow are statistically not more than 1% of users, but they shout most.

Hah. And what percent of active users is that? Or very active users? Most DNMs have overwhelmingly mostly-inactive accounts because people use a lot of throwaways, discard pseudonyms, move on to other markets, lost their password, etc.


[1 Points] opiatethrowy:

I actually had an error on the site that caused me to lose $300. It took 1 month but I finally got my money back. This was about 6-7 months ago. I abandoned ship as soon as I was refunded! I was lucky I guess.


[0 Points] sharpshooter789:

Whoever uses Pandora is a dumb ass. Enough said.


[-4 Points] gerundive:

I've never had a problem with Pandora. YMMV