Followup on talk and knocks after SR2 delivery

Followup from this: https://pay.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/25dhwp/heads_up_made_two_smallmedium_purchases_from/

Man, what a shit week it's been here.

I know you guys are skeptical and so was I. I hoped that just letting sleeping dogs lie would be enough but it wasn't.

Last Wed. morning I woke up to the dogs going fucking nuts and banging on the front door. LEO was outside, had a warrant and came right the fuck in our house. We had nothing to show them, absolutely zilch but they proceeded to drag us down to the jail, book us for controlled delivery and then proceeded to question me and the S.O separately for about an hour (neither of us had much to say aside from calling the attorney).

We're not sure what's going on right now, we posted bail and the attorney assured us that the evidence the D.A has presented is absolute shit (which we have very little idea what that is). Apparently our names were anonymously dialed in as being regular recipients of large amounts of narcotics which is the only reason the cops were interested in us. They 'were positive' that a search of our place would yield ample evidence along with our phone call records (this is pretty much bullshit because I use the phone for boring ass work calls mostly). Personally I don't see how something like this could be cause for a warrant and the attorney is pretty pissed off about it as well, but that's a matter for another time.

At any rate, I wanted to answer a few questions and respond to a few things.

1). My modem had a giant blinking red light which prompted me to call in and see what the fuck was up. They told me very little other than they had 'sandboxed' my internet. They used a more specific term which I searched for and turned up a plethora of results letting me know what was going on. They didn't say 'hey we're watching your internet' but the terminology was enough to indicate what was going on.

2). The cell phone company did NOT say anything to us but also used terminology that made me very suspicous of what was going on. When's the last time you called your cell phone provider and immediately got routed to a manager who was extremely careful about what he said when you described your problems and then proceeded to do everything he could to just squash them and get you off the line?

3). Our trash was pilfered again before the cops came in. We didn't have anything and anything we had before was burned/melted in the fireplace the point where there was simply nothing left.

The LEO will not say anything other than the phone call was anonymous which means it could be the vendor, fbi, our neighbors, the mailman etc... I don't know at this point who turned us in but there are exactly 3 people that should know that we were receiving 'farm tools'. I trust my partner 100% because it has always been clear how significant something like this is so that leaves one other person to blame.

Anyways, wish me luck. This is the last time I'll post about this and probably my last DNM experience. I don't know if the DNM's will succeed but I feel like after this whole shit storm that something sinister is going on. Maybe this whole circus has become just enough of a thorn in the LEO's side that they really threw what they had at it. IDK, but good luck to you all.


Comments


[20 Points] None:

I am going to say this for one last time. Not because I get down voted - I LOVE being down voted - but because I am tired of typing it. Also, don't tell me "the OP is a liar, you are spreading FUD" etc. I won't reply. I could be completely wrong. OP could be LE doing social psy ops by introducing fear and doubt. I don't give a fuck because my message is unchanged.

If you give OP only 1% credibility then you need to have a self-talk.

Hell, I will even use the bold format for the first time ever and I will cap lock because everyone knows when it is in caps it HAS to be important.

IF YOU ORDERED FROM CHALETLA OR AOD SINCE JAN 3, 2014, DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO PROTECT YOUR PEOPLE AND PROPERTY!

I promise you, cleaning house may not be on your agenda because it is nice to enjoy your DOC in your own castle. But you can bring the shit back in after you know more. Nobody is telling you to throw it all out! Also, nobody is telling you to reformat your computers or throw them out. They have free-space drive wiping programs you can get at sourceforge and may other places.

YOU MUST act as if it is 100% certainty that LE has all of your info if you purchased from these vendors this year. Once you make yourself believe that then ask yourself if you would be an interesting target. You could be interesting even with a tiny purchase because you live in bum-fuck. You could be interesting because you buy a lot and live in New York. You could be interesting if you have a record, thus on their radar.

This self-assessment is completely on you. You will know if you are interesting. If you are interesting take all the pain in the ass steps necessary to make sure your daughter does not see you cuffed, your home and property are not seized, and your freedom is not discontinued.

People - Being part of the cool crowd that shops for your narcotics from home comes with the inherent risk that your dealer, REGARDLESS OF OPSEC, could always be caught with the page open on your addy and the his private key loaded in a usb drive.

Ross is bigger toast because they were smart enough to have 5 agents tackle the skinny kid when his laptop was open and he was logged into the frosty control panel.

Are you an interesting target??

It is absolutely that simple. Don't over OR under think it.


[7 Points] None:

That sounds like a hell of an ordeal. I'm as skeptical as they come but your story sounds perfectly plausible to me with what happened.

Are you comfortable posting what you've been charged with and the amount/drug? It's been a hot topic of discussion lately so I would imagine a lot of people would want to know what they ultimately feel they can make stick.

Good luck with everything - it sounds like you're doing everything right for sure.


[6 Points] select1on:

Anonymous can also mean made up. They could have been tipped by way of something not lawful (mail man/police opened your mail without a warrant) and then built this case against you from that. They cannot say this so they outright make up something. I am not sure if it works this way but it sounds logical to me.


[6 Points] Derrick4Real:

It sounds like you followed proper protocol by cleaning house and not saying a thing, so we'll done there.

It doesn't sound like they have much at all...but it does sound like they have something...and they hoped that something would snowball into a more significant charge if you hadn't cleaned house and/or started blabbing to the popo and incriminating yourself out of fear (which they rely on heavily). Hopefully your S.O. did the same and is being honest with you.

I have a buddy who is experiencing a similar charge, however he was not smart about it all...but the State is charging him and not the Feds, even though Homeland Security made the CD.

There are advantages/disadvantages to having certain agencies charging you.

Keep us posted. Good luck!


[5 Points] synikal12:

Seems like you're fine man. Let due process play out, and stay safe my friend.


[4 Points] filetmenot:

We had nothing to show them, absolutely zilch but they proceeded to drag us down to the jail

Curious choice of words, as last time I checked, police with a warrant don't come in and say "hey buddy can you show me where the bad stuff is?"

more like "if you don't show us where it is, we're going to empty every single drawer, closet, jewelry box, open the back of the toilet, etc."

I continue to not believe this shit at all. You expect us to believe you got a knock FIRST w/out warrant and then they showed up with a warrant after basically warning you to clean house?


[3 Points] filetmenot:

book us for controlled delivery

what controlled delivery?


[2 Points] drpnit:

It seems that they're going after OP as a dealer, with the greater than 1g. charge. That's scary if, as the OP says, he's only a user. There is still a lot of unclear details here, although I don't think the OP is bs'ing.

Don't know if the OP will respond, but I'm fairly sure that "controlled delivery" is not a charge. In fact, there was no "controlled delivery", right? Now, if they charged you with PWID>1 gram that would make sense. Can OP, or anyone, elaborate on this "controlled delivery" charge?


[2 Points] drpnit:

I've been reflecting on this post. If any of it is true, I think OP may have been arrested, but not for what he says. He claimed in the original post he made "2 small buys", and no other conspicuous drug activity. He's asking us to believe that someone knew he was getting/going to get a couple of grams of speed from the DNM's, and someone tipped off the cops. Then, these cops apparently let the drugs go through -- remember, he made only "2 small buys". Then the cops visit him and essentially give him a heads up. They do trash pulls, etc. For a couple of grams of meth. They get a warrant to tap his phone -- which is not easy to get -- and monitor his internet use, all for -- you guessed it -- a couple of grams of meth. Then, without any evidence (remember, they didn't catch any of his shipments and found nothing in his trash) they get a warrant to search his home, find nothing, and put him in jail, on a charge of "controlled delivery", which I've never heard of. Did I mention this is all allegedly for a couple of grams of meth? There are just too many flaws in this story for it to be the complete truth. I'm beginning to think that if any of this happened, OP deals, and a CI made a few deals with him. That makes a lot more sense than the story he's related here.


[1 Points] joustingthesky:

Damn dude, that's scary. Sorry you're having to go through that. Do you order bulk amounts (I realize this isn't something you may want to answer here, but I think it's imperative). How did they catch on to you? Were you ordering internationally?


[1 Points] None:

Well, good job for cleaning house. I guarantee LE is VERY pissed off right now lol. They got a tip and fucked up big time.


[1 Points] c8Asth9me:

what does it mean to have your internet 'sandboxed'?


[-5 Points] throwawayaccountgay:

:S this is why you use drops.