How I safely used Meth-Amphetamine to save my startup

Hi all,

I can't go into too much detail here, but I wanted to share my story...

My startup had 30 days before the lights were turned off, and I was under the most pressure of my life to the raise capital to keep it alive. I needed to be as productive as possible if I was going to save it.

I had bought some adderrall from the DNMs to help me stay up late working some nights, but this time I was stretched too thin and couldn't afford it. Especially with how much I was going to have to take.

So I remembered watching a video by Dr. Carl Hart where he said that Meth and Adderralll were essentially the same drug (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wNS_aRxTqs). Meth being about 1/5th of the cost, I decided I would give it a go....

I put it in caps, took 2 30mg caps/day, and slept an average of 3 hours a night over that month. It helped me stay focused, alert, and reach out to more investors; pitching my business with confidence.

That was 2 months ago. I exceeded my fundraising goal, my business now has over a year of runway, and I weened off of meth - mostly just by letting my body catch up on sleep - until I could just replace it again with coffee. (And just FYI didn't sell any of it).

This experience just reinforced my absolute hatred of our drug policies and the media for depicting this particular drug so horribly. I've been dabbling on the DNM for a while, but only with MDMA and Addy. I still saw meth as ione that was actually dangerous.

Not to say you shouldn't take caution, however. Getting off of it fucking sucked. I had headaches, I was tired, and didn't want to do anything. But as long as I stayed positive, forced myself to get some exercise, and took some advil, I could get by until it was out of my system.

The real tragedy in all of this was the precious little information there is out there on HOW to do this SAFELY. Nothing about a safe dose, instructions for weening off of it, or anything. I just went strictly on my knowledge of Addy and how others use that drug.

So I don't know the damage I may have done. But I know that 30 days of 2 doses a day wasn't enough to get me addicted and it probably wasn't enough to do much damage (lack of sleep probably did much more).

But it was enough to save my startup, save the jobs of the people who work for me, and - for some fucked up reason - it would have been enough to send me to prison for a long time if I was caught.

That's all.


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[44 Points] octomarvel:

I snorted coke once. My nose completely blocked up.

I treated it with meth n was able to sleep with my mouth closed the next night after usage.

Ephedrine dude. Ephedrine, lol.

=)


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[30 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

Meth saved my startup.

Hi,

I'm Redbook of the brotherhood of British meth chemists (BBMC), and I can say with absolute confidence that my business wouldn't have earned a penny without the hydrochloride salt of N-methyl amphetamine.

Two years ago this month, I was selling a batch of meth called "The Persuader" ("It can turn a straight man gay, and a straight woman bi") for an occasional chemist known as "the Scottish Chemist", in a deal where he got 2/3 of the bitcoin earned on sheepmarketplace, and I kept a third.

I couldn't withdraw bitcoin from the site, it was the prototype "Evo" scam, deposits worked fine. The chemist (better known as /u/sheeproadreloaded2) and I began depositing a few cents at a time INTO the site, knowing that the only person who could withdraw bitcoin was the guy robbing us.

The bitcoin ended up in a big cave of a wallet below the over-inflating blowup sheep, which had one-way valves instead of wallets. When 96,000 btc (each worth $1000) moved to another wallet, the chemist aimed his phone at the QR code of the wallet in blockchain.io, and deposited 0.000666 btc - he "666"d it.

People here on reddit could look at sheeproad's wallet, find the latest 666, and see their stolen money. I had a shitload of unsold meth, we didn't need to sleep, and we made sure that whenever the thief woke up he would see that his money had "666" spray painted on it. blahdy blah, long story short, bitcoinfog tumbler, sheeproadreloaded jumped in with the 96,000 btc clicking on a green arrow 3 times a minute for 6 hours until the money stopped tumbling,

We gave "Tomaz" 10 minutes of feeling safe and satisfied before I saw a 666 appear in it. Tomaz must have shit himself because the bitcoin set off again until it got to BTC-e. Reddit, which had been next to useless, began taking the piss out of my BBMC startup. "he got away with it".

No he didn't. gwern doxxed his facebook and the hungarian police used the 666 paper trail to follow the money from the exchange right back to sheepmarketplace.

That was the only only BBMC/gwern collaboration to bring down a marketplace owner, but meth is a very strange drug. It can corrupt weak men. If you have the highest purity meth in the world sitting next to you and you haven't decided to be a force for good, it's magnetism will rip the corrupt heart out of your chest like an iron nail.

Crystal meth is a sex drug, but if you make it you make the party happen, but you can never join the party. You live like a monk in a monestery. You have to always do the right thing, and on reddit that can set you against the world, almost.

I swore an oath never to "cut, dilute, or otherwise debase" my product "on pain of death", before a chemist in a hooded cloak handed me a pair of black melamine chopsticks, like they use in a Chinese restaurant. Then he put on the "B" side of "Come on Eileen" by Dexys Midnight Runners, and made me take a hit of meth from a meth pipe on a water bong, bubbling away all through the middle part of the song without drums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg0KPlYYycY

If you've got some meth, try it. 32 seconds of breathing in is quite a meth hit,

We are a strange bunch, but we are all still alive even if some have got legit jobs, or married women who don't let them cook meth. That doesn't mean that I can sell cut meth. If I ever did, I would literally be murdered to death.

Why? Because we can't fuck meth up like you yanks did. We're striving over here.

You've got to be tough from the start. Start as you mean to go on, and don't get distracted by fools doing stupid stuff for personal gain if you use meth. You all know what I'm like, even I think I'm funny. But I have to be like that "because meth" as you guys like to say. Love me or hate me, there will never be another vendor like me.

But every vendor will become a little bit more like me as order emerges from the chaos which has held back the rise of darknet marketplaces. There will come a day when more drugs will be sold online than face to face, but only if we are tough, own our own history instead of disowning it twice a year, and vendors stop doing things that a shop wouldn't do.

I'm going to do my very best, as an experiment. Just to see what happens. Other vendors can be as shit as they like, just ignore me. Nobody is going to make you do anything you don't want to.


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[14 Points] None:

I used all sorts of prescription stimulants and "research chemical" stimulants at various times throughout college. Looking back my problem was really more of an existential one, I had a hard time being stimulated by, or finding motivation from, the external world.

Anyway, I never touched meth because of the stigma even though I'm sure that something like MDPV is as bad or worse. I had to flush my bag of MDPV down the toilet because I couldn't stop redosing, I ended up ingesting residue particles up off the carpet a little while later. Desoxypipadrol had me up for like 4 days without eating, longer if you're not counting micro-sleeping or whatever was happening to me, I had a series of drug induced epiphanies and semi-conscious visions, I thought I was a prophet shown truth by God and scared the shit out of my family and friends.... good times....


[10 Points] Idonu:

We need the knowledge of the communities best meth head, /u/Vendor_BBMC


[9 Points] kirkkommander:

Ya the first time I got meth on SR I did this and it was great.

Few months later I was snorting and then smoking it.

Last fall I started shooting it up. Didn't have quite the same beneficial effects.

If you have addictive tendencies like me, I would suggest not trying this method.


[10 Points] ShulginsCat:

I like you OP


[9 Points] smitheea211:

Interesting ... unfortunately most people that use Meth do not have your will power or are entrepreneurs. They use drugs to escape reality.


[3 Points] METH_HEAD_MIKE_75:

I've tried this before too, but the problem is when you say; ah lemme just try 1 line, then you feel the euphoria and end up doing your entire stash in 1 night.

I prefer doing regular ultra pure amphetamine instead now. Even if you do a recreational dose, I don't find it to have much euphoria.


[3 Points] dillutemyself:

"a video by Dr. Carl Hart where he said that Meth and Adderralll were essentially the same drug" - this man should not be practicing medicine - completely different!


[4 Points] SecondChanceUsername:

You're a great example of how self-medication by responsible people in responsible environments(you weren't out scoring or using on the street) can benefit our society. It sucks to say that if you had a spare meth cap lying around your office or car and LE arrests you and finds it, they won't give af about your success story and how it helps improve so many aspects of so many different lives. They will paint you as a junkie and throw you in jail. And then they'll hand out an adderall(meth) script to the next 8 year old who complains of ADHD/ADD.


[3 Points] CDRCRDS:

Hey i sold you the meth but tbh that was just vitamin C and you saved the business on your own. It was all you.


[3 Points] Canadianpornstar:

smart man you do what you gotta do. it was live or die, and you choose survive and succeed.


[3 Points] flying_kitten99:

Thank you so much for posting this. Meth saved my life and I have been using it for seven years.

I should qualify though, I have been taking it in pill form. In pure crystal form, its destructive tendencies are accentuated.

Still, the misinformation about this drug is profound. Thanks again for posting!


[3 Points] throwaway69822:

I took a high dose of adderall once and got my weeaboo buddy prom king. I was a hell of a campaign manager. Tweaked out asking cheerleaders to vote for him and displaying posters I made on the men's room paper towel dispensers.


[2 Points] gradient_x:

I've heard that Meth and Amphetamine have a different neurotransmitter profile with Meth having an additional effect of releasing serotonin. It's hard to find research on Meth because it's Schedule-1, but anecdotal and statistical evidence suggests it's more addictive than regular D-Amphetamine.


[1 Points] dnmlonghaul:

And I thought this post was going to be another meth vendor talking about how vending saved his dnm startup. OP - whatever works I guess.


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[1 Points] Feenius-Maximus:

I used Meth to help pull myself out of a trance I was in for 5 years.


[1 Points] earthmoonsun:

it might have worked for you but it won't for people with less will power. doing meth for a month looks a bit too neurotoxic to me.


[1 Points] creepystains:

Not that this refutes what you're saying, but you made this post saying you "safely used Meth-Amphetamine" to stay up late, while Dr. Carl Hart explicitly states in the video that the fact that people don't sleep while on meth is one of the dangers of meth (and that not sleeping is a danger regardless). It would be interesting to see a study on whether not sleeping is worse without meth (which I would not doubt to be the case). In your particular case I can see why you didn't really have a choice but to not sleep, and you wouldn't be sleeping regardless, but I don't know if it's fair to call it safe meth use.


[1 Points] deceptivelyelevated:

i put meth in my ass once for the lulz


[1 Points] thezooqueen1:

I regularly buy a small amount from my vender about once every couple months, and it's enough for maybe 5 bumps. I use a maximum of twice a month, which is all I need to literally fucking destroy my to-do list.

Glad 2 hear about your start-up, best of luck to you.


[1 Points] nevercomment:

How does it help you get your work done?

Do you become more focused and disciplined? Can you read more?


[1 Points] throwawayalakhmer:

Meth is the best productivity enhancer, appetite suppressant and anti-depressant ever devised. The feds don't want it destroyed to protect your health. They want it destroyed because if legal it'd bankrupt Big Pharma overnight


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[-13 Points] MDMangel:

Good read and pretty informative also. I believe that addiction is a choice. You were using this substance responsibly and with a purpose, along with the intent of not using it forever. Not everyone is willing to make such sound decisions. But I think you have demonstrated that there is no need for prejudice against this drug.