[GeneralQuestions] The Ethics of Surprising Someone With a DNM Package?

Hey guys, so a loved one of mine suffers severe anxiety and panic attacks that are literally tearing his life and health apart. They have been tremendously helped in the past by benzos. However, due to this person's mental illness, they refuse to seek treatment, and are therefore unable to legally acquire benzos.

I'd like to hear the community's thoughts on buying and shipping to this person a small amount of benzo blotters, bars, or eitz powder without telling the person until they arrive. Do you think it's flat out a terrible idea? The person would probably refuse it if told about it ahead of time, but if it got to them safely it could save their health, and maybe their life.


Comments


[10 Points] RosyPalm:

A potential CD, which is what you'd be setting them up for, won't help them out very much.

Send it to yourself, wrap it with a bow, and wish them a happy birthday when you personally hand it to them.


[7 Points] MLP_is_my_OPSEC:

If they're going to refuse if you tell them, how do you think they'll react when they get surprise medications? Not a good idea.


[3 Points] throwaway64dedr:

It would be better if you order to yourself. Don't tell this person until you physically give it to him. Try not to ruin your opsec by saying too much. Good luck.


[3 Points] Aluminum_Foil_Hat:

If you love them then don't. The vendor could send any substance at all, and you would not know. Your only option would be to order to yourself and test the product, then try to medicate your loved one, which is a whole other moral question.


[3 Points] None:

Here friend. I'm going to send you random benzos in the mail to enjoy along with your mental illness.

Your heart is in the right place, but your brain doesn't seem to know jack shit about psychology, addiction and common sense.


[2 Points] FlippaChicken:

If you treat DNMs like Amazon gtfo


[2 Points] strauser360:

I hope if you send etiz powder the person would know ahead of time what it is...


[1 Points] MDPV_:

So, as most of this thread has pointed out: not a good idea at all.

Most vendors aren't going to label their shit for obvious reasons.

A pack of blotters? Could be LSD. Some pills? Could be MDMA.

On top of that, what if the package is caught? ..Knock knock.

Best to order them to yourself, offering to them personally.

Notice how I said offering ---- and I mean that literally.

Humans have this problem, that they think they can..

..just bust into others' lives, giving advice and shit.

The way to assist others is by living in your truth.


[1 Points] BahWhatever666:

Use some common sense. You are sending drugs (which may not even be what you ordered) through the mail, to a mentally unstable person. Think very carefully about all the things that could go wrong.

I find it amazing that someone even needs to ask if this is a good idea.


[1 Points] AInterestingUser:

Fucking terrible idea. What if the vendor sends bunk or wrong shit. Order it yourself and give them to your friend. Duh.


[1 Points] throwahooawayyfoe:

I say surprise them, but don't surprise them with a package in their mailbox. You don't want to order some alpraz blotters and have DOM show up. That would not make a good time for your friend. Order it to yourself so you can test it to make sure it's not bunk or something else entirely and then give them the drugs the next time you see them.


[1 Points] throwawayforthis1105:

OK, I had to make a new account for this that I'm going to ditch after this post. I realize even given this precaution what I'm about to say next is horrible opspec but I can't not comment.

Listen up OP, I'm a professional therapist and what your suggesting is a really bad idea for a lot of different reasons. The ones mentioned so far are all true but there area couple more. First your friend should be in counseling if he is taking meds for a MH problem. It's not uncommon for people to have different reactions to different types of meds within the same category so just because he responds well to one drug doesn't mean the next one won't make the situation worse. The other is dosage amounts, professional counselors a doctors can adjust the dose amount to help get to a optimal level of effectiveness and there's no saying one pill will be the same as the next in this situation. Lastly by just getting him on meds he is only treating the symptom not the disease, he will never get better this way. Often times people don't seek help because there is a stigma to mental health treatment,it's through honest conversation and support from friends and family that you can work to overcome that resistance.