The State Of Alphabay? We among ourselves have to honestly have a discussion if we as a community are safe or not

Hello all as some of you maybe aware that in the last 3 days the Admins of Alphabays personal information has been put out into the world . I personally don't condone these acts and find them horrible for the community .

But we are a community and we need to come together (subbreddit mods or not ) to figure out if we as a whole are safe using Alpha bay. After reading vices article about doxers getting paid to not to release info & now this and the threats of there family members info being released (which has already happened/ threats of releasing a few bugs they also have (that could or could not hurt us users as a whole) . Also the fact that there was zero mention about the chaos going on this subreddit to warn people . I dont see in big red mods or past mods have been doxed in the active warning links (which begs the question if these sub mods are here for us or them ). With big muscles ripping people off left and right ,the shadiness of ab as a whole /lack of warning of possible danger .

Curious to see what the community thinks about all of this & what we can do among ourselves?

(i would kindly like to ask that all submods stay out of this convo and market heads and let us the people determine our own path on this conversation )


Comments


[1 Points] None:

One of our former mods spent sometime on this (post histories) and came to the determination that this is nothing more than a drama shit show produced by OP. We agree. See his comments below.

I have been here long enough to know one thing for sure there is a cycle about AB DOX. If they had any value someone would have gotten that value a year ago. We are done with it. Nobody gives a fuck. It is none of anyone's concern. Encrypt your shit.

For the record I think AB sucks. I hate everything about it. Fucking search has more options than a fucking missile. Busier than fucking AMAZON. So fuck them. That said I am also not going to allow some child to spread bullshit.

EDIT 1 - https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/61o2yh/the_state_of_alphabay_we_among_ourselves_have_to/dfhdv8a/


[53 Points] disc0_AlphaBay:

KlingonRaflG: Doxx information came out. The website is still up. Tickets are still responded to, disputes are still handled. Each staff member still replies. No one has bought a ticket to Belize.

Please stop with the FUD. The doxx was clearly bogus and a weak individual wants attention. We're using VICE now as our cited sources, that doesn't even pass the wikipedia test. The doxx and all of it's supporter accounts are as annoying on this subreddit as the "I can't login, is it an exit scam??!!??" Two minutes later "Oh sorry, it's back up."


[41 Points] Wamboz:

Bigmuscles needs to be taken off of staff. He is legitimately retarded.


[19 Points] coffeencreme:

I'll just take this opportunity to remind everyone of rule 1 - no personal information. This also includes reproducing, referring to or linking to personal information which appears elsewhere. This is a very serious breech of sub and reddit rules and has had serious IRL consequences for people before.

So don't do it...we're watching!

Thanks for understanding and as you were :)


[12 Points] coffeencreme:

Here's the thing. You're never going to get an agreement about what the community as a whole should do. About anything. Eveyone needs to figure out what they want to do and what is right for them and that's what they will do tbh. But I agree it's good to bring to anyone who missed it's attention that this happened and it's worth discussing.

Also, sub mods are community members too. :)


[13 Points] liquidzwords:

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[9 Points] None:

Dude, that was scammer. It's not really this dox. Don't fall for that shit


[6 Points] DOOT_DOOT_:

My take is that since it isn't the only usable/populated market, I just ignore it. I'm not aware of any vendors that ONLY vend on AB either, so why even bother with the drama?


[6 Points] None:

Which Vice article are you talking about? Sorry but if you're gonna claim that the admins of the biggest market have been doxxed you should provide some kind of proof (not the actual doxx, obviously).


[6 Points] slinky311:

Why is your username so close to the supposed true identity of the doxxed employee? Since you say you find these acts horrible...?


[3 Points] marktin1:

Lol anyone that keeps using alphabay at this point is begging to get scammed


[2 Points] DooshNozzzle:

First I'm hearing of this. Very bad news.

Is it possible the doxx is bullshit? how do we know it's accurate? If I was an admin of a site like alphabay and had all these resources at my fingertips (networks of people competent at fraud and hacking) I wouldn't tell anyone my real name or address. How hard would it be to just provide fake information or a fake ID?

I hope that if, god forbid, the info IS real, they will just take a retirement check and step aside instead of continuing to work for the site. I doubt there is any way to solidly PROVE their involvement if they quit now, ahead of any kind of investigation.


[2 Points] DecryptedTruth:

I am aware of the 45k that was supposedly paid for a doxx on alphabaysupport or whatever but what happened three days ago? Any links you can provide on pm? Thanks, stay safe.


[2 Points] overcomplicate:

I don't have to much to add to this thread because I've only ever even accessed alphabay once because a vendor I wanted to get bars from was only on alphabay.

I never placed that order. I've been a hansa user long time and just watched everyone complain about alphabays poor security and scammy vendors.

But I put that aside and went to order my bars and alpha bay was just inferior to hansa in every way. Poor layout, the whole wallet system, it just wasn't worth the few bucks I could've saved.

Alpha bay should've become a ghost town long ago, so many better options out there


[2 Points] lovelylittlegangster:

I don't believe DeSnake's dox.

He would have to be a full on retard to be using that domain for his personal hosting.


[2 Points] Traxx187:

say no more /r/Particl/


[2 Points] kilogrammes:

If you want to leave, there are other markets out there. Its not like you have to go AB, but remember they are a big for a reason.


[2 Points] speedfleek:

What the hell did I miss?


[1 Points] iamthednmthorwaway:

Really! Fuck I just placed a big order on there! Goddamnit this is the very last time I'll use ab


[1 Points] murderhomelesspeople:

If this doxx was real wouldn't ab have shutdown already? I couldn't imagine keeping a site like this active with a doxx out. Do we know if it was an upper admin who was doxxed? It also begs the question that if the doxx was real, isn't it possible that LE has already seized the servers and is operating the site?


[1 Points] Lsm1324:

just a blast from the past here : who remeber when we all star drug dealer serving up that pure pure .. we even got used on the how to buy from ab from deepdotweb look for judging the vendor .. thats us :) it was one of 15 account tho but still very happy about that

https://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/09/07/tutorial-how-to-buy-from-alphabay-market/


[1 Points] DecryptedTruth:

Wouldn't it be fair for the community to get an official statement from the AB staff?

Looks like we are dealing with some real issues here that only get worse. Yes, there's been rumours regarding the doxx for over a year now but shit just got real. We are no longer talking about a negotiation for the doxx not to be leaked. IT HAS BEEN LEAKED! And knowing the AB staff already paid the leaker once(45k google the Vice article) we can only assume that the info is real.

I hope this won't be taken as fud but I think it's in everyone's interest to know the details of this shit storm.


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] None:

and mods stop paying extorxionists. they will keep coming back. find out how he got ur info, he could contact LE...


[1 Points] ciphersexual:

What are "sub mods?" The moderators of /r/darknetmarkets?


[1 Points] freddydtown08:

/u/GMSleep /u/alphabaysupport explanations?


[1 Points] 1835Cartel:

I just want to point out that they are skimming $20 off my withdrawals everytime.

I posted this thread a few days ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/616v4p/alphabay_charged_me_20_to_withdraw_my_bitcoins/

And I just withdrew some more coins today and the same thing happened. $20 short.

I encourage other vendors to check the withdraw at one time check box, and then compare how many was withdrawn to how many you receive.


[1 Points] 4-MAR:

Hello all as some of you maybe aware that in the last 3 days the Admins of Alphabays personal information has been put out into the world . I personally don't condone these acts and find them horrible for the community .

Would you mind telling us how that happened exactly?


[1 Points] dillweedz855:

Damn they dropped his Klingon name .... Rofl!!! Damn sahn


[1 Points] TILofyoujunkies:

From the point of view of someone that is cashing big enough, I am seriously considering putting my setup on hold. I am posting from a throwaway because I don't want to add more to this FUD but this shit must be clarified by the admins. The message is simple: get your fuckin coins out.


[1 Points] KlingonRaflG:

Wow this way went different then i thought it would, i woke up to this gnarly mess .


[1 Points] Throwawayyyy63638484:

So r/fraudnet was banned 25 minutes ago......


[1 Points] lsm1312:

damn....... i really hope DS didn't commit Klingon suicide or something ..

dics0 &raspi ...especially ! big muscles both .. fall in line pay homage .. save your self


[1 Points] allcopsarebastards13:

its probably safe to say that that DS is caught or not answering for a reason .. Withdrawal your coins if you want to save your self !


[1 Points] None:

The doxxes aren't even correct


[1 Points] allcopsarebastards13:

i personally would like to see an this addressed by /u/alphabaysupport . Just reading over the OP's post Its seems there could be a conflict of interest here . Those of us who are understanding the correct situation , That yes doxers have been paid for alpha02 dox but this isnt alpha02 dox this is Desnakes dox & with subreddit of the dox in question taken down theirs no way for the people to verify from there selves . Maybe this is what OP was talking about 1. there has been zero statement from ab denying it 2. after seeing the sub turned to FUD with no official statement & the type of money AB pays , it wouldnt be to far fetched to site that maybe these mods could also be on the take ? giving a little breathing room for an exit scam . Who know there been so much info to consume at once its hard to tell who to trust . Till see a statement my coins stay out


[1 Points] dillweedz855:

More proof of payment , "since we never gotten paid for this "

Proof : https://imgur.com/a/MTYBq

heres are jabber for news outlets only ! We wont respond to hello this is blah blah from fbi , irs or whatever

jabber : lsm1312@jabber.cryptoparty.is

we got a year and a half of this stuff


[1 Points] lsm4life666:

Starting to spread like wildfire /u/alphabaysupport

https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/61qp5c/admins_and_staff_of_the_largest_darknet_drug/

wonder how this twsity story going to turn out when we keep dropping them truth bombs .. of proof


[0 Points] None:

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[0 Points] Lsm1324:

i mean all they gotta do is reach out say sorry and atleast A02 will be safe Etc ...they can just pm for my jabber /u/alphabaysupport


[0 Points] Lsm1324:

SO for everyone saying how fucked up we are for doing this , Just remember that DS ,Alpha02 's grandparents where most likely nazi's . Just saying we are going to run there family members threw the nuremberg trails database for verification


[0 Points] None:

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[0 Points] allcopsarebastards13:

Proof these mods dont know shit what they are talking about . we will keep diggin up more proof this should do for now . i think we will dropping over bearing proof every hour with screenshot until the public knows there coins are not safe ! and this is a real Breach of opsec DS info has been released

Proof : http://imgur.com/a/5iFJF Proof : http://imgur.com/a/5iFJF


[-4 Points] dvrknvt:

I have never used alphabay so I don't give a shit.

Edit: all these detective ass white knight dark web fuckin' hero attitudes just get shit hot and have been played out ever since DPR went down. For every civilization that falls another rises in its place.

Move to another market/forum if you are that concerned.