Wondering whatever happened to purple microdot and orange sunshine? LSD-25? Yeah, the Golden Oldies your parents loved (but won't admit to taking). Has the formula for those been lost? Not much demand?
LSD from the old days
Wondering whatever happened to purple microdot and orange sunshine? LSD-25? Yeah, the Golden Oldies your parents loved (but won't admit to taking). Has the formula for those been lost? Not much demand?
[169 Points] 4-MAR:
[76 Points] None:
I told my kids.
Not sure what you are referring to but now we have the purest and widest selection of LSD ever.
Bay area is still pumping it out just more and cleaner. I don't think it ever stopped. Difference is the LSD then was laid at 400-500uq. So a hit was a fucking rocket ship.
[13 Points] EatSheets:
LSD is still around?
Maybe in different shapes, sizes and color. Still around none the less
[8 Points] Undying_Potato:
I'm 18 so I don't know shit. However, my main plug is in his 60s and we're pretty good friends (and he sells everything under the stars, you name it he's got it). A little while ago he told me about this new LSD he found that was the closest thing to Orange Sunshine he's ever had. It's pure LSD that comes hermetically sealed from a research lab. Since I've never had the real deal I can't say anything, but it's the best LSD I've ever had, and my friend/plug and his wife who have both had the real deal say it's almost identical.
[3 Points] JohnnyYenOnTheDnms:
that's mad i was asking (or planning to)the same thing the other day, good info. got to love Timothy Leary, ken kessey and the merry pranksters were pretty chill too.
[2 Points] 0ni0n3at3r:
It's around but damn me if it ain't a bit hard to find domesticly
[2 Points] isitonu33:
Feel like the acid scene is dying.. TT is bulk and dont wanna wait on GG.. feel like its a shitshow on finding a good vendor now
[1 Points] MenuBar:
Man, I ate that stuff like it was going outta style. And it was.
[1 Points] None:
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[1 Points] layschips13:
Isn't LSD all the same?? What makes orange sunshine any different? I'm assuming back then they weren't correctly measuring
[0 Points] None:
That stuff is just outdated.
Purple microdots could be made by anyone, theoretically. The question is one of dose and one of purity of the ingredient (LSD).
From: LSD Purity: Cleanliness Is Next To Godliness
Thereafter, in the 1960's, Stanley "Bear" Owsley, who used to buy from Sandoz directly, started making his own LSD in bulk. He was the main supplier and produced bulk "famous" batches ("White Lightening", "Purple Haze", etc) in tablet form in the 1960's until his arrest in the late 1960's where after he retired from LSD manufacture, but not before training an apprentice, Tim Scully who continued producing bulk LSD for the nationwide market thereafter until his arrest in the 1970's.
There was basically one supplier of acid for the nationwide market during all of the 1970's and this was Tim Scully and his apprentice, Nick Sand. Scully stopped and Sand took over. They were selling, famously, to the Brotherhood of Eternal Love (Leary's trafficking group). Watch The Sunshine Makers for a great history of that era. Orange Sunshine was their product, being 300 mcg orange tablets. Leary claimed Orange Sunshine was special, sacred acid, but it was no different. Only the dose was different from other LSD products that were marketed (paper, liquid, windowpane, etc). Tim Scully cleared up the confusion earlier this year on reddit, saying unequivocally that "Orange Sunshine" was LSD-25 and not ALD-52, as they had tried to claim in court when being prosecuted.
More competitors started in the 1970's, but Sand was producing bulk acid until the 1990's when he was arrested with a lab in Canada.
From the 1970's, off and on, until the very late 1990's Leonard Pickard had various LSD labs in several US states and was arrested with about 20 kg of LSD (so the DEA claims, he claims 198g at maximum if I'm recalling correctly) and many kg's of precursors. He was at that time (late 1990's) a bulk national and international supplier. There has been much written about him. He argues there are many (perhaps as many as 100) LSD labs operating at any given time int he US. In his "fictional" 2015 book written from prison, he describes six major producers of LSD based in the US. According to court documents, in the 1990's, he was getting his ergocristine (LSA precursor) from real-deal mob figures.
Otto Snow's book LSD, published in 2003, describes six US based operating acid labs operating in the 1980's and 1990's in the US, most of which were never busted. During the 1980's most LSD the DEA seized was low quality (~65% pure) and ended up being dosed around 50 ug per tab. The DEA estimated in 2003 that most LSD is produced in Northern California that is bound for the nationwide market. Most other producers are only for local or regional distribution and much smaller scale.
There have been many LSD labs in the US over the years, all producing various purity products. Owsley (only in the 1960's), Scully (1960's-early 1970's) and Sand's LSD was always very pure and was mass distributed from the 1960's - 1970's and then Sand sarting again in the 1980's - 1990's.
Yeah. It's the same molecule being made now.
The chemical formula has not changed. If it did, it would not be LSD. That's not how chemicals work. It's still d-LSD tartrate being sold. Purity can vary, but these days acid purity is pretty high generally. Darkweb acid is about 70%-99% pure. Most of it in the mid to higher 90's% category. The routes to the precursors can be changed around and have been over the decades by various labs. The final end product remains the same. Purity may vary.
There are quite a few labs in Europe as well, and they export a lot of their product to the US and elsewhere. Just from reading books and reading online and talking with people, I can tell you there are currently LSD labs in the UK, Netherlands, France, and Switzerland. I've heard there has been or is at least one lab in the Czech Republic. I've read from 100% hearsay rumor that there is at least one LSD lab in China, but I'm not sure I believe that. It's possible.
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