It's Over TR is Dead

https://www.deepdotweb.com/2017/10/15/traderoutesecurityleak/

edit to include link to drama posted by /u/moretormoreproblems https://www.reddit.com/r/TradeRoute/comments/76704w/dear_traderoute_its_pk_aka_billyisonthenet1/?st=j8t2tgf7&sh=fffdda26

Weeks before the darknet market DDoS attacks began, TradeRoute Market arranged weekly payments with an infamous darknet marketplace phisher known as "Phishkingz." In a conversation with DeepDotWeb about two days before Traderoute went down, Phishkingz revealed that he had found a way to access code from the marketplace's admin backend. Shortly after Phishkingz revealed his findings, TradeRoute exit scammed.

PK's proxy--one of his phishing sites that, like any phishing site, looked almost identical to the real thing--granted access to TradeRoute's "whole database." The time between the discovery and disclosure is unknown. But, at some point following PK's discovery, he used Dirbuster to scan TradeRoute directories and filenames. He then "channeled them through a transparent proxy." And then building the database was fairly straightforward. TradeRoute handed PK $2,000 per week for the disclosure. PK sent DeepDotWeb copies of the scripts and clone sites for verification.


Comments


[118 Points] dnmthrowawayobvious:

Wow that's just insane. It's definitely over.... Shows TR's complete and utter retardation.

/u/samculperTR you piece of shit liar hope PK finds you out too. Taunting someone who is basically holding your market hostage? Fuck head.


[60 Points] The_OPs_Mommy:

Alright, so I've just read over this kid's claims (as well as reviewed the alleged TR code).

Now here are a couple of proper, journalistic clarifications to the wildly inaccurate "story" posted by this 'DeepDotWeb' person:

"The cold wallet addresses you posted were already public as anyone with half a brain and 0.001 btc could inject money into the market and see where it goes."

 


So hopefully that helps put some clarity to DDW's unresearched and disingenuous story relayed by a kid who, in his own words on the support page, tells the admin in frustration:

"be fair dude i just want a good raise out of the hard work (sic) i put in I had to pull down my onion server to set all this up to help you guys fix this and if im honest im just a noob this code in the right hands would be devastating you know this."

  Anyhow, hopefully that helps decipher some of this bizarre, on-going story.


[43 Points] DickCheeseKillah:

Sounds like TR is a bunch of broke boys who have no idea how to run or code a market. Shit the DNM is looking like a gold mine for the jobless hacker lol. I can't believe people who run these markers aren't better with coding and pen testing. Seems like agora was the only market with as close to a bullet proof server as were going to see sadly.


[15 Points] scattrbrn:

None of this is verified or corroborated; sounds like another self praising BS "story" leaked to lend credibility and status to PK. Any of this could be doctored; none of SamCulper's statements, if authentic, confirm any payments even.

Photos of code and a directory? Let's see some more proof.


[14 Points] None:

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[10 Points] -thuggy:

time for all the meth heads to follow the btc trail on those wallets!


[8 Points] BlackieBelt:

What is the essence of the code in this image in layman terms?


[7 Points] ostespiseren:

This article is dog shit lmao.


[7 Points] subutextual:

Wouldn't it be in PhishKingz interest to keep the market going so he has a place to keep scamming ppl?


[6 Points] basjin:

cant see the news here, anyone know they had a shitty coded market and got compromised already. what did people expect?


[6 Points] yhtgfbgrgfgdf:

I hope each and every one of you gutless retards that trusted this POS market even though it had all the signs of being a piece of shit lost a significant ammount of money in this exit, you fuckin reddit retards always show how stupid and simply beyond retarded you are even in situationsl like these.


[5 Points] None:

The entire shitshow available here: https://www.reddit.com/r/TradeRoute/comments/76704w/dear_traderoute_its_pk_aka_billyisonthenet1/?st=j8t2tgf7&sh=fffdda26


[4 Points] SCREAMING_DUMB_SHIT:

So what the fuck market is there even left to use?

God I miss Agora


[3 Points] holographictomato:

How does this prove they exit scammed? Wouldn't it be a pretty good time to change servers and fix bugs if they know there's a flaw?

I'm not ruling out that they've exit scammed but how can you possibly all ignore the fact EVERY OTHER SITE IS DOWN. Like you seriously think they all exit scammed at the exact same time? Am I going crazy here? How is this just being completely ignored?


[3 Points] MandyThatGirl:

Trade Route is dead, time to stick some Legos up my coochie.


[3 Points] hpoirot3rd:

So if you look, the technical admins first response to PK's claims are dated 11th Sept 2017 @ 15:34.

PK (billy) responds 4 mins later @ 15:38. Then gets impatient with three more messages @ 16:04; 16:06 & 16:12. Content of messge indicates there's no response from admin and he's getting flappy.

Then Admin responds @ 13:06 11th September answering PK's first message which was sent at @ 15:38.

Either the comment from admin at 13:06 was the first message sent or there's some time travel going on. IF that was the first message from admin to PK then why is admin addressing the directory scan?

Check it out.

One last thing... Wasn't DDW known for providing phishing links in the past? Just seems fishy that if they were, someone on the insdie of DDW was probaby aware and taking a slice of the fishpie. If someone 'dominates' the phishing scene it would be plausible that they be ballsy enough to approach reporters and maybe establish some rapport?

Has there been a school boy error here that blows it all out of the water only for TR to return tomorrow?

I dunno but a market going down is a phishers dream and there would be motivation to keep a drama going. If there was a rogue DDW reporter in cahoots with PK or even if PK just fabricated the messages, PK has a vested interested to pan out as much drama and milk as much from the desperation as he can.

I've seen no evidence of him being paid, that the messages are legit or the wallets are indeed TR's. I've read people say the coin they sent to escrow is still there too.

I'm just pointing it out. It's either a mistake or a mistake and it depends on what type of mistake the mistake is as to what the mistake means. This could be a mistake too though. In which case; there is infact, no mistake.

God bless the internet :)


[3 Points] Codeman56:

Luigi Maselli


[2 Points] Danny-Fuckin-Dyer:

well that certainly looks like game over for traderoute


[2 Points] -thuggy:

follow the btc trail boys..!

http://www.reddit.com/r/TradeRoute/comments/76704w/dear_traderoute_its_pk_aka_billyisonthenet1/doc1kc0


[2 Points] BFCDNM:

MIC DROP


[2 Points] AlexDr0ps:

TR was dope too :(


[2 Points] X4217:

I come here just to see weird shit. No idea any of it.


[2 Points] None:

What an asshole he fucked it up for the rest of us.


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[1 Points] merveil_:

lol is that really how they code their site ? call file via get parameter wtf ? they really kill themself


[1 Points] NukaCola_Vendor:

Sad times. I really liked the TR front end.


[1 Points] HardC0r3:

Wo another market fucked. I hOpe at least the DDos on the other markets will stop soon.


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[1 Points] Tigleer:

If this is true, /u/TradeRouteModerator, /u/SamCulperTR and every other TR mod, you are full of shit. That's probably why I lost $350 worth of Bitcoin last weekend because of your shit. Fuck you.

/u/billyisonthenet, I need to holler at you bro.


[1 Points] USAUG:

TR exited its a fact! dont try even hope they ll be back.U ll just make yourself feel worse for a way longer......and I wanna say fuck you and thank you TR at same time))))....we had fun but it only lasted for a couple months(((.... Now other thing whats up with tochka ,zion ,rs club? its unlikely they exit scammed so i ll have a little hope for them,mainly for ZION...come back MoFos...lol


[1 Points] Excill-:

Shit fuck. Prayers to all of us that lost bitcoin :(


[1 Points] MR_PIZZA_vendor:

This really makes me sad as a vendor :( I so tired of all these markets stealing everyones money. I refuse to use escrow and some of these new markets will not allow me FE.


[1 Points] missalfa:

/u/throwaccount669 called it https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/74ad0f/trade_route_back_stronger_than_ever/dnwqyfp/ and please mods remove tr from superlist


[1 Points] j-mann25:

Why don't vendors open their own vendor shops/onion sites? Is there something I'm missing to that? Does that make bad OPSec or something rather than being on a market that could close and steal your money? Sounds like a 50/50 shot to open your own vendor shop.


[1 Points] j-mann25:

One more thing what about this decentralized OpenBazaar 2.0? Could that be the answer we've been waiting for?


[1 Points] dookiedonkey:

I cannot be the only adult on here who feels like an an idiot when i see this shit go down and then I see the idiots behind it with their purple lamborghinis and I think to myself fuck I might need out of this game. Just want some weed bro for ma aches and pains. Can you feel me? This are little kids, my step-kids age, playing around on their mom's cc card. I just can't believe there are no fucking real players anymore.


[1 Points] bnparibas:

finally, who is the bad guy in this fucking story ? the hacker or the hacked ?

about SR 3.1 , is legit ? silkroaddrugs dot org


[1 Points] ISnortCars:

Everyone should really stick to doing DD as much as they can for now with vendors they full trust. If you don't have any of those, then use dream escrow listings but realize you are taking a risk, but you pretty much always are in the current state of DNM.

It's really funny (sorry kinda dark humor, sorry for people who lost money) that exactly what I thought would happened happened, well sort of. I was thinking more of exit when it was more of LE, same shit either way the markets went down and people were shilling, just for different reasons. When AB was down e1 on reddit and other places were saying GO TO HANSA, IT'S AMAZING! BEST MARKET EVER SO SAFE!! Everyone goes there, honeypot. After Hansa/AB go down confirmed by LE, everyone on reddit was saying GO TO TRADEROUTE, BEST MARKET! MULTISIG, VERY TRUSTED! BEST MARKET! Then TR fucking exits. It's very obvious there are a massive amount of shills on reddit that bait people to get a massive influx of people to a certain market, then the market exits.

I had a bad feeling about AB after a while. I used it for a while, but about 3-4mo before it went down I quit using it and went to solely using Dream. When AB went down and people were saying Hansa, it looked very shady so I just stuck to Dream. I know Dream has its issues, but it's been around for 4+ years now if I'm not mistaken and I personally have not had a single problem using it. I know it sucks right now with some people losing money on there. I'm not saying it's safe, no DNM is safe, but please do not be sheep and flock to the "next best ever market!" because of shills.

Be smart. Most of us by now have been on DNM for many years, so you should have at least a couple vendors at minimum that you trust. Do DD with them. It's the best way if you trust a vendor. Obviously trusted vendors exit too, but that's pretty rare at least IME that a vendor I truly trust fucks me over. It helps to get to know these people, talk to them etc. Obviously not personal info but you can still have conversations with them. Find honest vendors with good product and stick with them. Don't go trying to find a slightly better deal with a non-trusted vendor, because in the long run it'll likely cost you money.

Every DNM goes down eventually it seems. I'm sure Dream will too. Until DNM evolve they will keep going down, and I have hope that in the next 6-12 months that will happen and something safer from LE/exit scams will pop up. There is too much greed in the world and admins take too much risk to want to keep running a market for 5 years when they're already millionaires after a couple.

Anyway just wanted to post this. I hope people didn't get fucked too hard from TR. Be smart, and again never put anything on a DNM or in a buy that you cannot afford to lose. I'll say it again, BE SMART.


[1 Points] BakedPastaParty:

/u/sludgefactoryy crazy!


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[0 Points] PraiseKekThrowaway:

Phishkingz is now threatening to DOX all the admins of TR unless he gets $100,000 within 24 hours.......


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