[OPSEC/Computer] Just a reiteration that you are not anonymous when sending Btc direct from blockchain, coinbase, circle, LBC etc

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If you did not know about this and you are actively buying, you need to reconsider whether you jumped in before you truly understood some very basic opsec practices.

That is all. You may now return to your pipes, needles, straws, tinfoil, and sugar cubes (yes, sugar cubes - I am THAT old)


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[10 Points] AgoraMarket:

Name one buyer in the entire history of DNMs, who was arrested via controlled delivery because their identity was determined through blockchain analysis.

I understand where you're coming from, but promoting this overly-paranoid attitude for random buyers is counterproductive, and has led to lost bitcoins, pointless 3% tumbling fees, and random nobodies assuming they're the FBI's next top target because they ordered a gram of MDMA.

If a buyer accepts a controlled delivery and charges are filed against them, ability to identify them through the blockchain will be simply irrelevant -- they're sunk regardless.


[5 Points] cindelle2:

imo if LE wants you, a tumbler isn't going to save you. Transferring to a known tumbler could be viewed as suspicious, but who knows. As long as they're still legal to purchase (in the US) I dont sweat it.


[2 Points] TheDrugUser:

You can sign up on LBC without putting any personal info


[3 Points] wrapyourwilly:

You can easily make anonymous lbc accounts, log in over VPN or tor, and use a Burner email created over tor. Can take it a step further and get a prepaid phone to verify your account on lbc. And then it doesn't matter where you send your coins after.


[3 Points] MaltoseMaltase:

"If you did not know about this and you are actively buying, you need to reconsider whether you jumped in before you truly understood some very basic opsec practices."

Basic OPSEC = Tor, PGP and tails/encrypted hard drive

Tumbling has never been proved to be a worthwhile thing and is definitely more for vendors and the "oh fuck I have no idea how irrelevant I am to cops, they must be building up a multi million dollar case on me and I need to tumble to dismiss the case" paranoid buyers.

Fact is by the time they need to block chain analysis they already have prior evidence and a case against you. I still don't even believe they'd be fucked to analyse it.

  1. How would they know the darknet btc address you used?
  2. Even with your used address, only proof is that coins were transferred to a DNM - could of been sold to someone else or you could technically be purchasing a legal item. (Browsing a DNM is not illegal)
  3. Coins are mixed with in an internal tumbler with in the DNM and so any coins reaching the vendor can not be proved to be yours

Quit trying to scare people and acting like you're some DNM wizard

Conclusion: If you are a vendor / big time buyer, yes tumbling could be worthwhile. Small time buyers have just been scared by these OPSEC freaks into wasting time and money tumbling


[2 Points] Sarah_Palins_Dick:

So if I get BTC via LBC that can be traced to my name, and send that BTC to an electrum wallet, and from that wallet send BTC to fog, and from fog to another electrum wallet, and then to a market, am I safe?


[2 Points] Mrg13:

Wait people don't dose sugar cubes anymore?

Fuck am I old too?


[1 Points] samwhiskey:

I go straight from circle to market. Call me a fool but if that's all they got on ya then you're good. If they got ya for drugs then the blockchain ain't gonna hurt or help you or their case.


[1 Points] The__Scribe:

what if you send from coinbase to electrum? is that ok?


[1 Points] Pizzdog:

Seems like common sense, doesn't really need a PSA. it seems to be the general consensus around here that buyers only get busted by CDs and package intercepts. But, for all you meth smokers and tin foil hat wearers, I suppose you can never be too careful. Better delete this post, they're watching >.>


[1 Points] SgtFaecesProcessor:

It's easily traceable. I thought that was pretty common knowledge, but unless you're dealing in large amounts, vending or an admin I doubt it's ever going to come into play. If you get caught it will be because a package was caught or someone snitched and then they'll have you for possession and where you got it from and how you paid for it is pretty irrelevant. They don't need any more proof.


[-2 Points] basshead555:

For fucks sakes use a tumbler