Recent Meth Test Results

I just wanted to make sure everyone saw EC's response on this thread all the way at the bottom:

http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/49ksb4/theres_something_odd_going_on_with_the_meth/

This is what they said:

"Hi everyone!

First of all, thank you very much for your observations and comments, we are always learning and trying to improve our service, and we really value the community being part of our project, it helps us a lot. And thank you also for emailing us directly to ask, or else we would have missed this conversation.

Those results did look a bit odd to us also, so we've been doing some research and triple checking everything. And we found the problem: our methamphetamine reference standard had evaporated a bit and was too concentrated. A tech must have not closed it correctly one day, and that compromised further results. A human error for which we are really sorry.

We have fixed this already, reviewed everything carefully, and now it all works fine. So we are repeating all the tests on meth samples sent in the last weeks, and will email the results to each user.

We apologise for any trouble and as always we are open to any comments, suggestions, petitions, etc. Please email us at international@energycontrol.org, we'd be happy to help with what we can!"

This is great news, and I hope it puts some minds at ease. We are all human and we all make mistakes. Standing up, admitting it, and fixing the issue is what makes people great. Thanks to the community for staying on this. We depend on you guys to help with this sort of thing. You are the most important part of our checks and balances system. Thanks to EC for doing the right thing here!


Comments


[5 Points] octomarvel:

Oooh good lookin out by EC but yeah watch how many naysayers this brings and naturally low scoring vendors crying foul of all results here on out.

Give em an inch n they'll try to take a mile.

=/


[2 Points] adaptations_:

Question here:

If their reference standard is pure d-meth, how could it become too concentrated due to evaporation if it's already 100% d-meth?


[2 Points] None:

Kinda funny, I tried gypsies meth for the first time last week. I figured if it was only 46% pure and most likely racemic that 20mg would work out to roughly 5mg of d-methamphetamine. Enough to light a fire up under my ass but not enough to keep me up at night. Boy was I wrong. The first night I had bendryl and melatonin and didn't sleep a wink. The second night I called in the big guns and managed to get some shut eye. Probably would have been another day or two before I slept naturally.


[2 Points] cgtruski:

When will heroin reference sample be available for purity tests of heroin?


[1 Points] LedLevee:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/49ksb4/theres_something_odd_going_on_with_the_meth/d0t5tik

I fucking called it. At least they found the issue :)


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] Anti-Hero_AU:

Appreciate the update--good to know the community's "hunch" wasn't unfounded!


[1 Points] ciphersexual:

Oops, I was using those 50% purity results as an excuse to double the dose. Oh well, live and don't learn.

Thanks for posting updates like this to reddit for those of us here often but rarely on the avengers forum.


[0 Points] None:

So 2-3 vendors will be getting retested that 94% germanwill be changed to 50%


[0 Points] None:

This is great news!!!!!!!!


[-1 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

This is great news, and I hope it puts some minds at ease

I think you mean "this is terrible news"

I was an analytical chemist in my legitimate career, so I can sp[eak with a little authority on this subject. And, of course, BBMC is the only producer of uncut D-meth on the darknet.

By coincidence, perhaps, I created an account on the avengers' onion site and commented on this very subject yesterday. All of the American meth was testing around 50% - rather better than the historical average for the US. A sample from the Czech republic tested at a more reasonable 94%.

Rather than being happy about that, this decent result was about as welcome as a ginger stepchild. Now I understand why!

If the reference standard was twice as concentrated as expected, the European vendor's meth is 188% pure!

I went there to try to work with them to create an uncorruptible gold-standard process, where I wouldn't be accused of cheating like the 94% sample, offering to film a shard being removed from a freshly-grown cluster, sealing it and addressing it to EC.

The 94% sample wouldn't have been questioned if it was from an American meth vendor, and I was offering the Avengers a chance to shake off their image of a corrupt, protectionist group which is privately owned by Grams. Instead, it looks like if don't like the results they call Energy Control and make them do them again so they give a result they like. The original tiny samples will have gone down the lab sink now.

Also, in my experience, a calibration sample is always stored in the original volumetric flask in which it was originally diluted. These have a very narrow neck so evaporation is negligible. Plus, if you came to withdraw an aliquot of the standard and the stopper wasn't on, you would reject it immediately.

As a chemist, I find this explanation very hard to believe


[-1 Points] billy5x5:

Avengers are fucking idiots. If you don't know shit about basic chemistry then why even try to spend money and test it?

It says it doesn't search for levomethamphetamine, the other enanitomer of the chemical methamphetamine next to dextromethamphetamine so of course it's going to be 50%.