Warning: Fake Anavar Vendor resulted in DEATH

My brother was ordering steroids on AB. He had used steroids for once before, just one cycle last year before summer. This was his 2nd time using steroids. He was extremely healthy with a perfect diet, fitness nut. Anyways, he was taking Anavar that he got off an AB vendor and after taking it for about 3 weeks, it caused a blood clot, which caused a seizure, which killed him. He had just turned 22.

The autopsy revealed that the 'anavar' he was taking was not actually Oxandrolone. It was a cheap knock-off version of the steroid. This killed my brother. Just be careful out there guys...

EDIT: I do not know who the vendor is. All I do know is he bought from reliable vendors, like most of us. It's also unknown if the vendor is even aware he isn't selling actual Oxandrolone or not. Test your shit if possible


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[84 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

The autopsy tested all the steroids in your brother's house? What was it? Winstrol?

Maybe you should become a steroid vendor, you seem to have sold everything else. You've got cash to invest, and you've been trying to get /r/drugs interested in steroids https://pay.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/3drlif/rdrugs_on_steroids/ . Be a GOOD steroid vendor.

Its good that you're not bottling this up anymore. You spoke a lot about the suicide of your best friend on the grieving subs, but its taken you until now to even mention HAVING a brother.

Where do you source YOUR steroids? You should have hooked your brother up with some real Anavar (being a dealer and all).

Did you both know each other used steroids? If only he's known you were a dealer. At least you could have told him where you get YOUR steroids tested.

Did the coroner's report say anything about his liver values? Maybe you could post it (leaving out any names, of course).

Thanks for the warning. You be safe too. You don't seem as conflicted about your steroid use as some of the other drugs you've posted warnings about. You've done a lot for a 22 year-old and have a lot of conflicts in your life. I sell drugs too, so I leave the harm reduction warnings to others. I feel it would make me a hypocrite, people would start to think I was making everything up.

Focus on the positives in your life I wish I'd lived in a cocaine-fuelled party mansion on the San diego beachfront when I was 22. I hadn't even got drunk on alcohol, let alone smoked a spliff until my brain had finished forming.

That's why I'm so sharp. At 22, most kids don't even know what Munchhausen's Syndrome by Proxy is.

Do any of you other guys know what it is, or how to spot it? You need to know these things to develop your darknet intuition:- Your "Tor goggles".


[66 Points] dlayover123:

Doesn't it matter to anyone who the vendor is? Sorry for your loss.


[43 Points] Theeconomist1:

Always a good reminder to be careful what we ingest. There are no controls or chain of custodies on the DNMs. Even good vendors can be passed fake shit from their suppliers. Trusting a vendor has nothing to do with it since trusting a vendor implies you trust every hand that has touched the vendors supply. Test the product before using.

Be safe


[33 Points] None:

Hmm.. Can you elaborate a little more? Many steroids are known to increase RBC count, which thickens blood, which can lead to blood clots.

Furthermore, Oxandralone can very much cause blood clots just like many other oral steroids. I don't think the fact that your brother was sold bunk anavar, was the main factor in the death of your brother. If that makes any sense.

Hopefully I didn't come off as rude or too blunt, I just want you to be informed. I am very sorry for your loss. Good thoughts to you and your family.


[8 Points] None:

I'm sorry for your loss, but certain parts of your story don't check out. I'm not saying you are being untruthful, but rather you are simply uninformed.

Nearly all steroids increase the risk of clots. Usually not much, but the higher risk is there. Anavar does cause a higher risk of clots. Also, what was the fake knockoff? Anavar is pretty cheap already. Was the knockoff anabolic? There aren't a lot of oral based steroids that could be used as a cheap knockoff. Did he get sold dianabol or something?

Doctors usually know fuck all about steroids. At least twice a month I have to undo the damage a doctor did to one of my customers by prescribing a fucked up HRT regiments with no cycle support. They might have taken a 3 month class 20 years ago about anabolic steroids, but they still have the God complex and refuse to admit that they don;t really know what they are talking about.

So, when a doctor says your bother died from a cheap knockoff steroids, I question is expertise.

Again, I am honestly truly sorry for your loss, but I think your post is highly knee-jerk. Too many important facts are missing to just say "Fake anavar killed my brother."


[10 Points] LedLevee:

Sorry for your loss bro.

Unfortunately steroids are known to kill people, also young ones. So this post really doesn't tell us anything. I also don't know what "a cheap knock-off"-version is. Do you mean a different drug or a generic?

This post is pretty fishy to me. Your comment history is full of idiotic drug use, where you mention doing massive amounts of cocaine (now there's a drug you really should test) and red pill shit. So I'm going to be the asshole that calls fake and FUD on this.

Anyway, never a bad idea to test your drugs.

/u/Vendor_BBMC of course said it much better than me here https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/4nwo2m/warning_fake_anavar_vendor_resulted_in_death/d47qj0g


[3 Points] DrDeath666:

Just to clarify, the risk of developing a clot comes with the territory for any steroid, including plain old testosterone.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/205039-clinical

In addition, polycythemia potentially predisposes patients to thrombosis.


High estrogen being another risk factor. Another being dehydration which is more common in those with a low body fat percentage.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1911303-overview#a5


Side effects of testosterone therapy: DVT(deep vein thrombosis, aka blood clot) (all testosterone, not just the gels or creams)

http://reference.medscape.com/drug/androgel-testosterone-topical-342796#5

Venous thromboembolism, including DVT and PE reported in patients using testosterone products; these observations have included patients with and without polycythemia; evaluate signs or symptoms consistent with DVT or PE


TL;DR - take your baby aspirin, lowers your risk slightly

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1268573-overview#a3 (DVT prophylaxis(prevention))


[3 Points] rydan:

All I do know is he bought from reliable vendors, like most of us.

You do realize that if the drug kills the user they can't leave negative feedback? Based on that fact wouldn't feedback be completely worthless when it comes to judging the authenticity of the product?


[2 Points] flexxonem:

Edited because I'm an idiot. Sorry guess the steroids are affecting my eyes and brain. Let me go get some bloods done.


[2 Points] iLoveThickBitches:

Name and shame the vendor OP so we can know who to avoid. Very sorry for your loss, please inform us who he is so others don't have similar experiences.


[2 Points] sluttymcbutts3cks1:

maybe your brother kept his AB passwords written down somewhere? if you find them you should definitely name and shame. sorry for your loss man.


[2 Points] FrozenMCVegetableCok:

Sorry for your loss. You obviously already know enough to know blood clots are a risk for most steroids, but letting people know who the vendor was would be very helpful. People could be mixing stacks with things they weren't expecting and cause harm to themselves and letting the community know is the right thing to do.

It won't bring your brother back, but it could save someone else's son or brother from suffering the same fate.


[2 Points] None:

Not to shit on anyone but a blood clot can form from any type of roids it's a common thing it could also be because he injected wrong.

Sorry for your loss.


[1 Points] BicycleDayNoob:

OMG, that's tragic. So sorry for your loss.


[1 Points] drkntmrkets:

Sorry for your loss.


[1 Points] None:

Sorry to hear that man. Did they let y'all know what the actual substance was?


[1 Points] Zombie21st:

What was it?


[1 Points] Masochist-pillowtalk:

eh ive got mixed feelings about that but i dont wanna be a dick and blurt it all out.

sorry for your lose op.


[1 Points] None:

Im sorry for your loss but I have a suspicion the docs and your fam are blaming the steroids instead of it just being a really tragic accident. if it was not anavar it was probabaly winstrol or dbol. its really quite obvious when you dont get real anavar. 3 weeks of taking any of these steroids at a reasonable dose is not likely to kill anyone. your brother had a pre existing health condition or was just that 0.01% health anomaly that led to a clot killing him. Im really sorry but you should know ithe truth. i took 80mg var last nite tbh.

was he taking any testosterone? EQ?


[1 Points] rashizzle:

Damn, I'm sorry for your loss man.


[1 Points] mejuwi1:

sorry for your loss man, thats really terrible.

never fully understood why these are classified as 'drugs' they should be in a class of its own 'chemicals' or other bull shit.
crap like this what spoils the fun for most of us who are just here for the coke, the molly and the cid games.


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] Kazaa99:

Damn shame to hear, I'm sorry for you man.

Anavar is considered one of the more "safe" steroids, along with Primobolan, but also one of the more expensive ones to produce. Therefore its quite often a different material that's added in the sold product, if its supposed to be cost efficient (or even possible) when making it cheaper than the competitor sellers.

Adding stronger steroids because its cheaper, to supposedly weaker and safer products that in reality should be more expensive, can be dangerous as the side effects of strong androgens are much higher than those of weak anabolics. But a blood cloth after just 3 weeks of usage is not something I have seen before with any steroid. But if he was prone to blood cloths, it could of course be the thing that set it off.

Also one of the dangers of underground produced steroids are the raw materials themselves that are produced under unsafe conditions and with bad purity, making it have terrible waste products - where even toxic heavy metals can be found.


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] beeeel:

It's sad that this will be used as an anti-steroids example, when legalisation would prevent this sort of thing happening.

My heart goes out to you and your family, best of luck.


[1 Points] dandydaniels:

im scared shitless because i think i have blood clots from shooting some pretty caustic shit into my veins when i was using hard 2-3 years ago.


[1 Points] None:

I am deeply sorry, comrade. I wish you and your family well in this hard times.


[1 Points] jaydee0007:

Sorry to hear that man.


[1 Points] None:

No disrespect intended but it sounds like real anavar. Anavar, like most anabolics drugs, cause an increase in EPO which can cause increased RBC mass and thrombosis. A blood clot in a 22 year old male with no history of trauma, cancer, etc. is so rare. Did he have a heart defect? A defect in the atrial walls could allow a clot to get to the brain easily.


[1 Points] maxturbator:

Fucking brutal, dude. I'm sorry for your loss.


[1 Points] GalileoBTC744:

I am very sorry to hear about your brother. My thoughts are with you and your family.

I'm not sure if this has been touched upon in other comments, but I think it is a very unfortunate event that can teach a very important lesson. While taking any form of androgenic hormone or derivative/analog thereof, you should always be aware of the very REAL threats of blood clots. I'm sure it has been mentioned the increased viscosity of blood that these drugs create, but it is also very important to remember that this is only one factor contributing to the hypercoaguable state that exists while on these drugs. Anybody using or abusing these drugs is at risk of blood clots. Testing this substance may very well reveal a separate substance. However, it would not surprise me one bit if this Anavar was legit, and this was just a known side effect of using anabolic steroids (and any other sex hormone for that matter).

Stay safe out there everybody. Be familiar with the substances you choose to put in your body.


[1 Points] dabbingtimes:

scary stuff, makes me second guess ordering roids now


[1 Points] AnavarIsOxandrolone:

Anavar is the most faked oral steroid so im not surprised in the least that he didnt receive actual anavar. I would love to know what they were selling as anavar though. Its usually winstrol and sometimes mixed with something like dianabol or even turinabol.

RIP


[1 Points] speedfleek:

Oxandrolone is a very expensive compound. Its safe to assume that its fake if it isn't pharmaceutical at this point.


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[-1 Points] synthetic_kinetic:

Right here is case and point why all drugs need to be legalized... Let the government regulate their manufacture and sale. None of this shit would have happened.

Sorry for your loss, OP.


[-1 Points] you-are-a-cop:

Yeah...I call troll.

-or-

Somebody looking to blame someone else for something shitty that happened. Typical.

Anavar is mild as fuck and well tolerated by most. If your brother was taking Anavar...he was probably also taking other shit...and probably had a history of taking things previously.

IF YOU ARE TAKING STEROIDS AT 22, YOU ARE A MORON.

If you take steroids...you CHECK YOUR LEVELS via blood panels every 4-6 weeks, while on cycle. If you have have some issue, like a raised Hematocrit level that can cause blood clots, you'd know.

Too many kids make dumb decisions to take steroids at...AGE 22? Wait until you're at least 30, dumbasses.

I realize you want to a reason, someone or something to blame for this happening. I think the likelihood of it being the Anavar is very, very low. Even autopsies are inconclusive...and may just blame what it "seems" like.

Who knows what it really was. I don't...and neither do you.


[-3 Points] Methamphetamouse:

Why is this 51 posts long, no name of a vendor, and for someone posting about their brother died, it seems very, ummm..

GUYS IF MY BROTHER JUST FUCKING DIED AND I WAS RETARDED ENOUGH TO GO ON REDDIT AND MAKE A POST IT WOULDNT LOOK SO MONOTONE AND LIKE IM A COLD PSYCHOPATH MORE COCNERNED ABOUT THE DARKNET THEN THE FACT MY BROTHER IS FUCKING DEAD!!

/end bold letters

if this all is true, this guy should be fucking cringing to name and shame.

PS, subreddit for steroidsourcetalk has plenty of reputable soruces, there is no need to go to the darknet for steroids, and if you have bitcoin , your options are very wide, i have never gotten fake or bad steroids through SST, yes, test base that felt like it was shards of glass cutting my glutes open and making my ass into a void of nothing, but never anything dirty, or mislabelled.


[-5 Points] None:

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