I'm seeing a trend.

The more people subscribed to this sub, the more complaints of getting scammed or caught. Obviously some people don't seem to understand the legal implications of everything they are doing if they order off of a DNM, sometimes tell their friends about it, can't keep their mouths shut, order from high risk countries right to their homes, do no own PO boxes, try to use drop addresses, and a lot of other things that will sink your ship faster than a depth charge. Opsec should always be your number one priority, as far as anyone who isn't you knows, you just get mail like everyone else. To add to this, if you have no experience dealing drugs, do not buy large quantities with the intent of reselling them. It's a very easy way to get robbed, taken advantage of, incriminated, sent to jail.... That kinda thing.

This is basically something you are going to have to keep to yourself. If you can't do that and you don't know anyone who wants anything, DO NOT MAKE AN ORDER. Your life is not worth going to pound me in the ass federal prison over something that you honestly had nothing to do with until you came here.

I have a feeling we're going to hear about more and more people getting scammed, heading to jail, getting in trouble with the law in the future. Not because LE is any better at catching us in the first place, but because DNM is becoming more and more mainstream. I can see minimum orders becoming a thing in the future, or past business, maybe even direct deals and no clearnet reviews. Some vendors already do this. As these places get more popular, it's going to be their only choice of action if they do not want to risk getting popped.

Just something to think about.


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[63 Points] None:

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[38 Points] STB_KING:

Like I said a month or 2 ago.

50-75% of the folks here don't belong in this environment.


[29 Points] Moridakkubokka:

Never tell anyone that you buy/sell drugs, especially no emotional bitches. These hoes ain't loyal.


[18 Points] Smokeyz:

Very true, a lot of people think just because your ordering drugs online you are safe when this is not the case! If you don't have a tight Opsec then what are you even doing here? Took me a month of straight research before I even felt ready to make my first order.


[14 Points] yesidoes:

Depth charges sink subs not ships.


[10 Points] ToiletSniffer1992:

counter intelligence should be taken into consideration even when making small personal orders. Get your solid fool proof excuses and pre excuses ready before hand. Remember the people who are trying to bring it all down are people too and are susceptible to 'psychological tampering'. I'm not saying how for obvious reasons, figure it out.


[7 Points] theslowwonder:

Great post, and on point, but a few thoughts and questions. How many examples do we have of small buyers getting caught, and of those how many were sloppy and how many were tight in their approach?

Side thought; I feel non-darknet pharmacies pose a greater threat to the current environment. Laws governing how packages are handled by the USPS provide a certain level of certainty in shipping. The volume of prescription drugs being shipped by non-darknet sites is much greater than crypto-currency markets. Due to funds being taken away from marijuana programs, the DEA is now focusing heavily on prescription abuse as it has increased sharply in the last decade.

If laws start changing in a way that makes this stuff tougher, my belief is that it will not be caused by darknet newbs, but by babyboomers recklessly buying oxy and viagra from online pharmacies. That's the greatest threat to the wild west atmosphere people currently enjoy.


[7 Points] noonehear:

I told my grandmother. She is 6' under. Am I at risk?


[3 Points] wellitsbouttime:

this happens with every market ever. clever people build it. smart people work with it. other people find out about it and it trickled down to every retard that's ever seen the movie scarface. I don't use DRM, but follow this sub because I think black markets are really interesting. hopefully with more people using it, it will be more cannon foder for law enforcement to keep the smart people safe. When lions charge in to a herd of gazelles, you don't need to be the fastest gazelle there, you just need to be faster than a couple of the others.


[2 Points] 1234567as1:

What do you think is enough then? I've been researching since early February, and even tho I'm just about to place my first order, I've felt ready for weeks now. I read EVERYTHING reddit has to offer, and did more research on the side. Now, I can't find anywhere else to look without learning how to code. Am I still considered a noob? I feel like I am


[2 Points] jchempton:

I get what you're saying I honestly think pgp is the most important thing but I mean for personal use kind of quantities do you really think LE would spend all that money hunting someone down for an o of weed?


[2 Points] IEatAnyAss:

I basically lurked for 2 months learning how to use the DNMs before buying something. People should do the same.


[2 Points] TripAddict:

Either you know exactly what you are doing and don't get caught or have somewhat an idea of what you're doing and you get sent to jail.


[1 Points] BigSmileyFace:

It's just natural selection


[1 Points] 13tom13:

gotta keep an eye out for exit scams too though with evo doing one sometimes the vendors try get out the game, its likely to be a bit of both


[1 Points] gradient_x:

Is there good list of countries that are considered high risk to order from?


[1 Points] nsgiad:

This is the law of large numbers at work.


[1 Points] noonehear:

Every failure by someone is a learning opportunity for others.


[1 Points] Call_Me_Kyle:

It's totally ok though, the more people that get screwed the more notoriety this method will gain, and after it goes mainstream hard then people will say it's not worth it. And only the cunning shall remain.


[0 Points] None:

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[1 Points] WhereIsMyLSD:

Good post. A lot of people seem to want to dive right into this whole thing with little knowledge of how it actually operates.

I was lurking on forums and tutorials for BTC, tor, pgp, etc for like 5-6 months before I actually mounted up the courage to place an order. And since then everything's been working well. Because I took the time to find out what I was getting myself into and to not become the low hanging fruit in this community


[-1 Points] None:

Makes me wanna be a DNM scam artists every time I read about this happening. I fail to see how it's worth it unless you do it large scale "420 sale" tony style.