Evidence, please. Knee Jerk reactions are not okay. You must control yourself.

At Alphabay, I feel as if we have become a state in of ourselves.

When someone breaks our rules, they occasionally do not at all bother to adhere to the system we have in place to get the truth, to provide evidence, and make a proper judgement. Perhaps this is our fault. We don't have a big list of who is on our team on our front page.

We've expected people to seek out knowledge and return having done their own investigation. We treat people like adults who can make such investigations on their own initiative instead of wanting things handed to them. Finding out information on your own can be a very rewarding experience!

Does this user have staff flair If yes, then he is staff. If no, he is not. Basic logic by means of evidence gathering. Perhaps ask other users, is this person staff? Is he in good standing with the other staff?

And this has been working very well for quite some time now, from when we were a small market to our current dominance now.

We have had multisig available on our site for months, but haven't made a big deal about it like some other places have. It shouldn't be something you hope a market to have but rather expect by default. The users who use it had asked us, do you have multisig? We have always replied yes.

Returning to the topic at hand.

Why with these turbulent times do unsubstantiated claims get upvoted?

In the comments is a signed message from TheDrRX regarding this mess.


Comments


[11 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

We have had multisig available on our site for months

That's a bit risky, isn't it? But at least we know that alphabay can't exit scam and get away with it. No martketplace using multisig escrows can.

The thing about multisig escrow, is the bitcoin going between the user and the vendor can be seen individually on the blockchain.

Just before that wallet, a small percentage is taken off for marketplace commission. Even if it goes on the roundabout of a tumbler, it can only get off into alphabay's profits wallet. Its had thousands of transactions go into it, and each output is a staff member's wallet like yourself.

I'm all about proof nowadays. That's the problem with multisig escrow, and the reason a provably trustworthy marketplace like agora didn't have multisig- it needs bitcoin to go through the actual marketplace, rather than being a "bitcoinless" marketplace that can't be seen on the blockchain because it uses virtual credits and a separate tumbler just for deposits and withdrawals.

If you REALLY insist on proof, I'll publish alphabay's commission wallet address. then, from the date of your announcement as an employee, I'll have a guess at a wallet which I think is yours, and have a stab at estimating your salary.


[11 Points] Wanted_drugs_2day:

Trappy....listen closely man.

We kneejerk so bad to alphabay news because everyone is on edge about it, it does shady shit.

If the community viewed it as an upstanding market with values and morals then instead of grabbing our pitchforks we would rally to defend the market just as we used to for Agora.

Point is alphabay has brought the community's view of mistrust upon themselves.


[5 Points] octomarvel:

People dislike your market coz you make claims like "from when we were a small market to our current market dominance". We all know the issue with inflated listing counts on alphabay.

I'm all about fud where fud is due, but resorting to slandering other markets (like you did in this post) that don't talk a word about yours only serves to drive possible users and vendors away from your market.

Then there's the whole "remove your review on reddit to get your Bitcoin" thing.

To me, the lack of ethics I have explained in this comment keep me from actively using alphabay. I'm just sayin so don't shoot the messenger.

=)


[4 Points] dilirio25:

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What is this?


[2 Points] MLP_is_my_OPSEC:

Nah man, blind hate and automatically assuming the worse is how we operate around here! Being objective? HAH PLEASE!


[3 Points] Trappy_Pandora:

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i just posted on my profile everything so hopefully my followers will read that and not this     imposter on reddit. The withdrawal have not cleared yet but the admin and Trappy have     both reached out to me and are working on the situation. As soon as the BTC clears i will     gladly re post all my listing and make sure everyone knows that you handle this very well     and professionally

Cheers
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[3 Points] Wanted_drugs_2day:

Also in you multisig version do the coins pass through or are held on the site for any amount of time?


[1 Points] druggieslut:

Why would you freeze someone's account and not tell them? Why would you stop them from withdrawing for an investigation involving threatening messages, but not stop them sending messages? Why would you ban someone for betraying alphabay, as if they had loyalty to you?

I do find it hilarious that people think alphabay doesn't have multisig.


[1 Points] Finga_lickin:

Why would Admin not inform a vendor his account has been frozen from making a withdrawl? Does your staff just not like letting people know what is going on? How can you expect people not to freak out when all of a sudden they can't get thousands of dollars worth of coin out for what seems like no reason.

Your market is sketchy. They have a lack of communication. They / you lie constantly. and YOU (trappy specific) are bought and sold by markets easier than a two dollar whore.


[1 Points] None:

I must control myself? Fuck you, Trappy. You work for a carder market. You are a thief. You don't get to tell me or anyone else to do anything or that we must control ourselves. This isn't Soviet Russia, we can do and express any opinion we want. We all saw you freeze someone's withdrawls without telling them while still allowing him to operate his account normally until he tried to withdrawl. Why were his withdrawls suspended but not his account and why was he not informed of this immediately? No other market has ever done this to a vendor in DNM history as far as I know. The proper way to deal with the problem would have been to simply send the vendor a message saying his withdrawls had been disabled because he was under investigation for such and such. Why is that so hard? He shouldn't have to come to reddit to complain about it to get any sort of resolution or communication. Reddit is not your support system and you are clogging up this entire subreddit with your bullshit. Smart people use markets that are not run by thieves, anyway. YOU are the one clogging up this sub with your bullshit, because you can't figure out how to do your support on your own market instead of here.

We all saw you ignore this user get ignored by support until he came to reddit to bitch about it, otherwise you would have just stolen his money and continued to ignore him. because you are carder scum. We all saw you extort this user to remove his thread, whether you or he say otherwise is irrelavent at this point because of the way YOU handled the situation. It doesn't matter what you or he has to say about the matter at this point, because Green Machine has a financial incentive to get his money AND continue to vend or your site. Your word and his are now meaningless because your "agreement" could contain all kinds of stipulations that we will never know about. Maybe you threatened to steal his money if he didn't make an apology thread and never speak badly of of your market again.

We have no way of knowing what happened because YOU are the one's that make your disputes public, then conduct "agreements" in secret.
We shouldn't even have to know any of this occurred, all of this communication from beginning to end should have occurred on your market, but it is all but certain he was extorted with his own money and Reddit is not your dispute center. Keep your support on your own fucking site and shut the fuck up about yourselves. No one gives a fuck about your ego or the fact that you keep saying you are biggest market just because you lie about your user listings.

There are tons of vendor accounts no one has ever heard of on your site with no sales or feedback with listings no one has ever bought. It is clear you are manipulating your listings to make yourselves look bigger than you are. Why is it so important to you to continue to stroke your ego and pretend you are the biggest market? Why do you care? You'd actually do more business if everything you did wasn't so fucking shady, but you are too dumb to see that. The biggest market right now is direct deals because people are tired of dealing with exit scams and your site's constant bullshit. You are losing out on all that commission money because of YOUR actions and the way YOU react to things, stop blaming other people for your site's reputation, it is well earned at this point.

No one want to hear about your market ever, and we are sick of hearing about it and your arrogance about being "the biggest market" simply because you have small penis issues and for some reason "need" to be the biggest market even if it means lying about your listings and completely inventing vendor accounts that don't even exist and have never received and sale. We shouldn't have to deal with your dispute problems every day simply because your support can't do their job. REDDIT IS NOT YOUR SUPPORT CENTER. Do it on your own market.

Also fuck you and your condescending attitude, your customers and vendors are the one's paying your bills (plus the credit cards you steal). You claim to work in PR but you are the worst PR person history. Every post you make drives traffic AWAY from your site. If you just shut the fuck up and your support weren't assholes to anyone or didn't ignore them, you would probably have twice the users you do now.

As it is, you are now known as the carder market who steals from people and freezes vendor accounts on whims without even informing the vendor what happened. If you'd like to change that reputation, that is entirely up to YOU and YOUR actions, quit blaming other people because of the way you and your support behave pissing people off. Just once admitting that you handled the situation poorly, apologizing, and promising to do better would be the first step, not this arrogant ego-stroking bullshit post, that again only makes people want avoid your site even more than they did already.