How are vendors from the Netherlands selling MDMA so cheap?

It doesn't seem possible. Some vendors offering down to 5/6$ a gram in bulk. What are they using as precursors or using to synthesize? It seems that the Raw materials needed are almost what they are selling Kilos for in some cases. How can they make profit let alone worthwhile profit?


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[6 Points] None:

They get it straight from the chemist or they are the chemist.


[3 Points] None:

same reason why weed is so cheap in america


[3 Points] UKhead:

MDMA used to be made primarily form Sassafras Oil, a commodity that was not infite in supply.

New methods of production have allowed for new chemicals to be produced, (PMK) which is produced and bought for dirt cheap. The Netherlands is the home of MDMA production, hundreds of labs in abundance ready to ship to the international market based on a frame of chemists and suppliers which have been in the game for centuries.

Supply is also outstripping demand, its a price war.


[2 Points] None:

Nah, I pretty sure, they use that PMK method and get PMK cheap from China. And it's made in very very large quantities


[2 Points] None:

As with anything else, the production cost for MDMA gets to be pretty damn cheap once you are making kilos. As for synthesis, there are a couple methods but the most widely used is this one, with minor variations between chemists.

https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/mdma.drdrool.html


[2 Points] None:

In order to make mdma you have to have pmk at some point whether you synthesize it out of piperanol, safrole or isosafrole. In a conversation I had one time with a big vendor, he said that he gets it for 3000 euros per kilo straight from the producers and apparently that's a pretty standard price


[0 Points] ChasingTracers:

If you're in the US i highly suggest you leave that temptation alone. Plenty of people have gotten packs successfully but it's (to me) one of those things where everythings great until its not. Germany is like $10-15/g so to me that price gap is worth the peace of mind. They can sell it for dollars per gram because they produce it for pennies per gram.


[0 Points] EastOaklandCase_Boys:

What you pretty much said in your post. They have access to the precursors and the materials to synthesize MDMA. Also, they've been in the game for decades, so they got that game sewed up. They are the heavy weights and have established connects since forever and it will stay that way. Just like the Bay Area is know for its Bud and how Canada (Q) is known for pressed Xanax. It's the way it was, is, and will be.