Speculation: Ongoing LE DNM Takedown operation

Ladies and Gentlemen,

we are suspecting that LE agencies chose new tactic to fight with DNMs. We are in power to speak because we've been around for 3 years and seen how things work form inside. Currently they are utilizing shock & awe tactic when they overload a tor node capacity with their overwhelming DDoS horsepower (it's hard to fight > 1 GBiT (speculation) attacks even in a clear-net and nearly impossible in deep web).

There are 3 ways to end this:

I'm exposing them.

My wild guess that this is coordinated LE operation that will be announced soon. Attack will stop simultaneously on all markets. Public can view this on this operation as of litmus test and make their conclusions who is really independent and who works for LE. You can also correlate time when new markets arise, their marketing efforts and growth speed, as well as official LE DNM takedown operations.

We in Tochka believe that trust of users is THE most important thing and they best way to get trust and play long-term is transparency. Tochka is open-source market with 3 years runway and we will be happy to see you on our market when this storm ends.

Cheers


Comments


[40 Points] scattrbrn:

So basically all this fud boiled down to an advertisement for your market. Got it


[7 Points] basjin:

(it's hard to fight > 1 GBiT attacks even in a clear-net and nearly impossible in deep web)

evidence about the attack size please, i highly doubt this number.


[6 Points] TradingRealGfForRsGf:

Nah, I like TR, where my support can form a full, coherent (non-broken) sentence (or at least hire people to do it for me). Nice stealth advertisement, though.


[6 Points] DecryptedTruth:

Hah blaming LE for the DDoS attacks, you're a fucking joke.

How many blackhats did you dismiss when they asked for DDoS protection money? Its a tough business, step up your game and gtfo with your FUD.

LE fights this war 24/7, its been ongoing since its inception.


[3 Points] ShitQuantikSays:

Gentlemen

Have you ever thought that maybe females use the markets, too?


[2 Points] ecstasais:

Proof? How much traffic are the sites actually getting? I'm actually suspecting the slow attack method...


[2 Points] subutextual:

Who else would be ddosing the markets if not LE?


[2 Points] None:

You're not exposing anything if you're just making a spasticated guess


[2 Points] bfsco:

There's more than those 3 options. DDoS is a pain to mitigate but possible. If you forfeit those attempts for options 2 or 3 there's an issue with your ability to run your server and you shouldn't be running it at all. A DM has a lot of money funneled through it and if you can't afford to figure out how to mitigate a DDoS you don't deserve to run the market. You've got more cash flowing in via commissions and if you're willing to say you're not going to sacrifice some commission to figure out how to keep your site up it deserves to go down. If this is how you feel, lemme fire up a botnet of IoT devices and hold your servers until you pay a ransom....did it to game servers back in the day for the same views on attacks.


[1 Points] None:

What can we do? It's the corrupt ass government doing whatever they damn well please.


[1 Points] ecstasais:

So, here are graphs: https://metrics.torproject.org/bwhist-flags.html?start=2017-09-25&end=2017-10-01

I operate couple of big relays. Haven't see any increase in traffic - although I should say a lot of traffic goes actually into serving HSDir responses.

If somebody is really DDoSing then it's probably done using Tor's Hammer.

However... based on this https://github.com/dotfighter/torshammer/blob/master/torshammer.py I'd say it's pretty easy to catch these fuckers, filter them out in application firewall (you guys do have one, I'd assume)


[1 Points] Jayden710:

All of you guys asking for proof and I'm sitting here thinking in a week or so if the markets actually get taken down this is the guy that called it out


[1 Points] STFUMandy:

Shock and awe or shockingly awful.


[1 Points] dreamcompromised2:

Were you the gentlemen talking about that tier 1 hala certified or whatever and only one market met the cert??? lol

I don't know how much you are exposing, its not a state secret that LE is doing these sorts of things. How do we know that you aren't tier 1 LE certified working for LE?


[1 Points] hardtobeatDNM:

Just wondering about vendor's orders. I have some customers that bought stuff but never bothered to log in again and those were supposed to have been released already. When Tochka is back up, will I receive those coins?


[1 Points] Faderjustice:

I've been hearing Tochka is paying people to DDos the competition.