To tumble or not to tumble?

I know this might have been asked countless times before. I just want to know everybody's opinion on do they tumble or don't and why?


Comments


[7 Points] gooseman19:

if you decide to tumble. DO NOT USE BITCOIN FOG


[5 Points] Xanabis:

Tumbling BTC is necessary regardless of the volume of the order(s); always adhere by the highest OPSEC standards, don't skimp out on tumbling. This shouldn't even be a question to be honest..


[3 Points] Theeconomist1:

I always tumble. Personal amounts is all I do. I agree with AutismHour, you can do it a hundred times but it only takes one time to get popped. People will argue that there hasn't been a case cracked by doing Bitcoin forensics and that may be true, but that can and probably will changein the future. Bitcoin transactions are permanent. It'll be there for all time for anyone to go and inspect. I wouldn't go and give my CC to a dealer in IRL, even if I was assured that he wouldn't rip off my card number. I wouldn't do that b/c I don't want the paper trail there.

Its easy and not that expensive so in my mind, why NOT do it? It does what it says it does - break the link b/w you and the rest of the BTC trail. I personally don't want my transactions to be scrutinized now or 5 years from now. IF you are obtaining BTC anonymously then you might not need to tumble but otherwise, I always tumble. I consider tumbling a cost of doing business here. It is what it is and one of the things you need to do.


[3 Points] jadedsynk:

To prison? or not to prison.

This is what you should be asking yourself.


[2 Points] TheTurdMaster:

I know I'll get downvoted for this but if you're only buying personal amounts I don't see a reason to tumble. I've never heard of LE tracing bitcoin transactions and arresting someone. It would be a monumental effort for little payoff -- they would need to bust a vendor, get your address from him, determine your bitcoin address from the market, then find out where you bought the bitcoin from, and get your information from them. For what? So they can prosecute you for buying 5 hits of LSD and you get off with a misdemeanor? In they end it's simply not worth it.

A lot of folks will argue that it doesn't hurt to tumble, and I'd agree if it weren't for the fact that many bitcoin tumblers such as bitcoinfog selectively scam and are generally untrustworthy. If you really want to tumble, blockchain's send shared is the way to go since they are the only reputable service and aren't just run by some guy living in his parent's basement.


[3 Points] earthmoonsun:

I think trading alt coins is the best solution. The more trades and different exchanges, the more anonymous. Of course, registration and trades should be done with Tor


[2 Points] LongLiveThe_King:

You should talk to /u/IGetDankShit, he has a theory about a better way to conceal your coins that is cheaper than the current tumblers.


[2 Points] Idonu:

Just use Bitblender or Helix. Helix is pretty active among this community so they are kinda more "trustworthy" than bitblender. ALWAYS TUMBLE COINS PLS NOT EVEN A QUESTION. Yes LE won't really care if you are buying personal amounts (you can probably order while not on tails) but that extra step in OPSEC just might save your ass.


[1 Points] drugsaremyfriend:

Depending on how you get the coins it's easily traceable. Who knows if the feds will back trace every single address and see. Probably if you already got caught would they do that.


[1 Points] None:

I don't tumble. Waste of money. Just move it between a few wallets and you have just as much plausible deniability.


[1 Points] None:

Kinda is just like making a turn in your car in real life with drugs in your car without turning on your turn signal. You can probably do it 100 times and be fine. But it just takes that one time to get pulled over.


[1 Points] 987sg38h4os9fu0aq2:

Do it, and use helix.


[1 Points] needsomepgphelp:

Here is a follow up question for people saying always tumble: If the worry is that LE can trace BTC back to your coinbase account, why and how does a tumbling service actually protect you?

If LE have near infinite computing power couldn't they still trace back a tumbled transaction?