STOP ORDERING FROM VENOM DRUGS NOW.

This is the same person as DoubleAces/DrNOD. They ship from the same place with the same product and stealth, and they talk and behave exactly the same.

They also popped up RIGHT when DoubleAces got banned. Same EXACT thing happened when DrNOD got banned, DoubleAces popped up with the same product, stealth, and shipping location once DrNOD was banned. All 3 of these reincarnations ships from the exact same place.

Don't be stupid guys. STOP SUPPORTING THIS VENDOR NOW OR HE WILL KEEP COMING BACK. Sure you may have a good order for the first few weeks, but as soon as this guy starts getting more popular with more FE orders, he WILL exit scam. He has done this at least 2 times now, same pattern and everything. And the only person to blame here is you, the customer.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me a third time? I'm just a fucking idiot then. I repeat, Venom_Drugs is the same person as DoubleAces/DrNOD. All of this has been discussed heavily and in great detail in the forums. We have all agreed that we'd rather go in W/D than to support this scammer.

The more orders he gets, the more he is tempted to do this. This fucker thinks that he can just keep getting away with this over and over again. If we work together as a community and just stop ordering from him, he will hopefully stop this shit.

Even if he learns his lesson and is actually using Venom_Drugs to go legit and stopping his exit scams, he's still not worth supporting as he's stolen thousands of dollars from us, and especially since there are so many other better vendors out there. Ones that have NEVER scammed.

Everytime venom_drugs comes up on the forums, a few people have to warn whoever is asking about him. I don't see any warnings on here so I figure I'd give you guys a heads up.

I gave out a few warnings here and on the forums about DoubleAces when he first signed up, but a lot of people didn't believe me or thought that I was a competing vendor. It was just too much of a coincidence that he shipped from the same place/stealth/product as DrNOD, and typed in the same way as him too. I knew this had to be DrNOD and I had a feeling he would pull the same shit and exit scam after getting a bit of a reputation and then a large amount of FE orders. A few weeks later, that's exactly what happened.


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[14 Points] None:

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[6 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

After you pointed out the drNod / doubleaces thing I had a look at the time. You were right, 100% surefire link. The same vendor.

If they could even wait a week before renaming they would be dangerous. But most scammers are psychopaths / sociopaths, and its easy to forget that this is a disability.

if he learns his lesson

Psychopaths can never learn a lesson. they just climb back on that same horse and try to ride it harder. Its one of their clinical features.

An interesting one is that psychopaths never attempt suicide. They only have a couple of the normal human emotions, they usually learn to impersonate them well enough to hide their lack of empathy, but they're actually easier to spot online where they let their guard down and revel in their anonymity, shilling and trolling inexpertly.

But they get tiresome. just like this particular scammer, unable to change his modus operandi. you will keep foiling him, and he will start to troll you (if he hasn't already), or he will move onto something else which is sneaky.

Scammers don't retire as such. They can't accept responsibility or admit to being fallable, so they blame somebody else - probably you - and even though they come off second-best in every encounter and should avoid you, they just want to win once.

When scam vendors are completely crushed and washed up, they become parody trolls. You may end up with this vendor becoming a Robot_diacetylmorphine or a diacetylmorphine_radio, stuck to your shoe.

In my experience, they're are always guys who've been completely crushed by repeated encounters - of their own volitioin - with the person they pretend to parody.

Be careful now that you've spotted him 3 times in a row. He will come after you with shill accounts, become obsessed and scared at the same time, until eventually the only place he feels safe is inside of you, as a parasite.

One thing to bare in mind when outing scammers on reddit, is that there are 220 people online right now. most won't read this, and most won't be heroin customers. hHs scam will carry on fine if he ignores you.

All these bad guys are on reddit though, its like googling themselves. Reddit is where people like you bate them, and the same instinct that makes them HAVE to create a new vendor account the same day makes them HAVE to respond.

They always blow it for themselves here, on reddit, by showing a bit too much malevolent interest in you when they should really just button it.


[4 Points] None:

Don't be stupid guys. STOP SUPPORTING THIS VENDOR NOW OR HE WILL KEEP COMING BACK. Sure you may have a good order for the first few weeks, but as soon as this guy starts getting more popular with more FE orders, he WILL exit scam. He has done this at least 2 times now, same pattern and everything. And the only person to blame here is you, the customer.

Dude this is some legit community stuff here, seriously, good work. There's only so much we can do, he'll keep being a dick, but this is some solid info.

I don't wanna do the LE work for them but is there a way we could record what all of his stealth and product looks like as sort of an APB?


[1 Points] trynakick:

Funny, I'm having the same issue with a different opiate vendor. Southernmeds on Abraxas is scamming, and he used to be pillspowderpotions/gringo90 on Evo, and probably something else before that. Good news for me is I learned my lesson getting taken by PPP and he used exactly the same M/O; 1. Ship small escrow orders for 2-3 weeks 2. gain a bit of trust 3. switch to FE only 4. profit.


[1 Points] streetsprice:

Yea I had been off the dn for a while, ordered from him and got my stuff it was quality, but had no idea he was just another scamming asshat in it for the long run exit . Sorry to whoever I told he was ight, just thought he was a new vendor with a decent sale.


[1 Points] insameboatsameboat:

This is absolutely true, and it's so obvious that it's all the same person. You should also add that he was nowthatsthestuff on AlphaBay and maybe a another market or two.

He does the exact same shit, over and over and over, and somehow it continues to work. Granted, if you're one of the people to order in the first 2, maybe 3 weeks, you'll likely get your package and be really happy about it. That's all part of the scam - he has to send out some product at first to build his reputation.

So, he'll ship out for the first couple weeks, and actually do a pretty good job of it. Everyone will give him 5/5 feedback, and he'll come onto the forums typing in all capital letters how he's having a sale, or sending out express, or whatever.

After about 2-3 weeks, he doesn't necessarily remove his escrow listings, but he starts pushing everyone towards FE listings, and asking those that are in escrow to FE. Hey, dude sent you your first 2 orders with great speed and the gear was on point, so why not FE to get a much better deal? Hook, line and sinker.

He probably makes ~$5-7k each time he scams, maybe more if he can get some really big sucker to FE for a big listing. Not bad for a months work, not to mention the profit he made on the product that he actually did send out.

As long as people continue to buy from him, he'll continue to run this scam. Once you've seen it a time or two, it's so incredibly easy to figure out that it's the same guy that it's almost humorous. Like, really, you again?

Anyway, back to the point of this post: DO NOT ORDER FROM HIM. If people don't order from him, he can't pull this fucking scam. Do the community a favor and shop with the vendors who don't steal from their customers, even if it means spending a couple bucks more with a legit vendor.


[1 Points] None:

Didn't he just try the SAME FUCKING THING unsuccessfully as ohhhboi with a bunch of $.25 samples? That account got shut down pretty fast. If he is brazen enough to keep trying, pretty sure something bad will happen to him not too long from now


[1 Points] iliveintor:

Man even his picture looks exactly the same as drnod. idk how people can overlook that LOL


[1 Points] yeahboyeeee:

In a nutshell I placed an order a week ago monday. i fe'd with him and he markd the order shipped on tuesday morning. he said it would ship that day with additional charge for priority shipping. we all know what happened thursday and he assured me that since I fe'd my order was long on its way to me. last heard from him on satruday on Alphabay (he kept up contact on AB after the shutdown, assuring me everytime it would be here the next day). After multiple requests to track my order and saturday finally asking to level with me, no more reponses. It would even be understandable if I didnt tell him it was my first time doing this, i figured being a first time, new custoemr he might be a little more straight forward. If he would do this to a new person, i dont think he would hesitate to do it to anyone else. Stay away from him on Alphabay and Dream_Market.

I am definatley to blame for lack of due diligence. i didn't realize to check places like grams or reddit first, I only read the reviews in the market. I certainly know better now but hopefully someone reads this before getting scammed like I did.


[1 Points] yeahboyeeee:

i think he finally got booted from Dream (at least they have made him FE which is as good as him getting the boot). About damn time... Karms is a motherfucker


[-1 Points] traderofswings:

Buy from him. Then leave negative feedback.