[Ketamine] How to spot S Isomer vs Racemic (not effects) ?

Nowadays everyone has S isomer to sell, obvious sales gimmick because due to financial laws something that its way more rare and expensive cant be sold by everyone.

Anyway is there ways to test for S isomer with reagents or other DIY ways? Visually s isomer crystals have a hexagonal or "rice-like" s vs racemic hape cubic shaped crystals , if not mistaken.

This image depicts on the left s isomer and s racemic on right from bluelight.

Appreciate all input cheers.


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[8 Points] Limitre:

Racemic ketamine is simply a mix of R/S isomer. Even if you did test for S-ketamine with a reagent, you wouldn't know if it was pure S-isomer or racemic. You'd have to get the substance lab tested to know for sure.


[6 Points] analbeadsforprez:

I miss the old bluelight community. Such bright minds came together. On a mandelin reagent, ketamine should turn up as dark brown with red undertones. You got it right as far as aesthetics go, S isomer come in rods and racemic tends to come in pebble shapes. The effects differ greatly. Isomer is more euphoric and psychedelic, while racemic is less potent and imo a less clean high.


[5 Points] None:

Well, you lot are stupid.

Saying s-ket is better is some kind of myth, it's simply not true and anybody who abuses ketamine daily will say exactly the same. I think the reason s-ket is getting sold a lot more is due to pure Chinese whispers on the internet (and maybe real life) that it is better. s-ket is cheap and shitty, no anti-depressant properties and meh..

Those saying that s-ket is easier to hole on are retarded or have been miss-sold r as s...

..or they have no idea what a proper hole feels like.

It may feel stronger yes, but that is not a hole... it's cold and clinical, not warm and lovely.

It's much more likely that racemic ketamine will be in granular shaped crystals and s-ket will be more shard like.

Just came here to be mean and laugh anyway, don't ban people for no good reason and maybe you will get better answers/help. I could go into proper detail but meh, fuck your shitty sub. I hope you pay loads for it as well.

Get a proper sealed Ketamax vial and try that, that is proper ketamine.

'Merica....


[2 Points] EternalTurmoil:

There's no way you'll be able to test it, except maybe the subjective effects.


[2 Points] alfabi:

There is no test you can make at home to detirmine whatever ketamine is racemic mixture or pure enantiomer. S or R enantiomers has the same chemical formula and most of chemical properties only configuration of chiral centers are different. However there is one possibility which depend on crystal structure involved where pure enantiomer might have higher or lower melting point then racemic mixture or vice versa. Or in other words, on whatever ketamine has racemic conglomerate crystal structure or its true racamate. Melting point if racemic conglomerate will be lower then pure enantiomer. Or, search melting points values in chemical database of pure enantiomer and racemic mixture and then meassuring melting point.
Edit: however, this can be done only if you have pure ketamine, whatever is racemic or pure isomer because any impurity will effect MP.


[1 Points] None:

Ive been told you can test it by looking at the crystals under a microscope if you know what your looking for


[1 Points] StrictlyThizzness:

There's no viable way for the average person, like others are saying. The only way I can think of would be to have an LC-MS fitted with a chiral column, or take a NOESY NMR spectrum unfortunately.


[1 Points] BacwoodDingus:

Which is better s isomer or racemic?


[1 Points] salvia-d:

Related: I noticed that EcstasyData.org (the Erowid-funded drug testing service) was asked about this, they said:

"We do not have the equipment to be able to differentiate stereo isomers of ketamine from each other. S-ketamine and R-ketamine would both appear as 'ketamine' in our lab results."

Too bad!


[1 Points] Ketamollacaine1996:

Ive always been a fan of racemic.... that feeling when you do too big of a line and feel yourself start to lose it(:


[0 Points] None:

I've been told r/drugs can probably be of better help.