Dear Amazon Refunders: Go fuck yourself

Silk Road started originally as a way for people to exercise personal freedom to take drugs if they want without the government telling people you what to do. That was a noble cause. Now there are all these posts/listings about hacked netflix accounts and scamming amazon to get shit for free. You know why it pisses me off? Because Amazon tries to be customer friendly and take people at their word that they didn't get an item and re-send it or give a refund. You know what's going to happen pretty soon because of everyone abusing it? They're going to have to clamp down on it and next time someone actually doesn't get a package they will be screwed due to douchebags like people on here abusing it....There is NOTHING noble about that, you're just a fucking scumbag.


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[369 Points] None:

This isn't called politically correct market. Its call darknetmarket for a fucking reason. The heroin you use is picked by children, the coke fuels Mexican cartels, some of those pain killers are stole from someones grandma. There is NOTHING noble about you thinking your crime is better or worse than mine. GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE. This is the darknet for a fucking reason.


[57 Points] sellingweed897087:

Yea there's a big difference between markets selling drugs, and markets selling fraud shit like stolen credit card info, fake coupons, and guides on how to steal from people over amazon


[49 Points] IGetDankShit:

I remember fake coupons being one of the most popular items on Silk Road though. Is that really any different?


[33 Points] beerslol:

Yeah pretty soon all retail stores will stop accepting returns because a couple asshole return stuff for no reason!!!

Nah, it's part of the business model. Amazon isn't on the verge of changing everything because of a couple dnm vendors. Relax.


[20 Points] None:

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[18 Points] friendofstranger:

It seems a lot of people don't feel bad about stealing from big, faceless corporations. Myself included to some extent. That's why I'm not very much against "carding." Most people notice, and then the credit card companies cover the loss. Part of the reason they have 30% interest credit cards


[16 Points] jadiaidjaidj1122:

+1 to OP, im personally tired of being lumped together in the same markets as theives. This is the most morally reprehensible aspect of these markets right now. The people stood against the instruments of violence that were being pushed on here and they were removed, now we have to stand against scumbags who take advantage of the goodwill of others, let them have their own market to take the full brunt of the three-letters wrath.


[14 Points] None:

These compaines do employ loss prevention staff. Target has its own police force. Most of them are LEOs who work on the side. (tinfoil hat) Once you end up on a shitlist of a company with more assets than a third-world country... good luck trying to get a mortgage when your bank is owned by Amazon in 2025.

TL;DR: Pay for your video game console.


[16 Points] SecondChanceUsername:

Ross started it for economic freedom purposes not just specifically drugs. They sold self-defense stuff, jelwery, clothing, it just s happened that certain items were illegal in certain jurisdictions but the site did not discriminate against where people lived. That was the euphemism of SR1 in early days.But its true. Also, The Armory existed.


[7 Points] None:

They're going to have to clamp down on it and next time someone actually doesn't get a package they will be screwed due to douchebags like people on here abusing it....

Just like doctors had to do because of drug seekers.


[7 Points] None:

Most of you are so full of shit that is is comical. One crime is not equal to another. Putting gas in your car funds terrorism, but that in no way is equal to someone directly scamming innocent people by buying stolen or hacked accounts and then doing the next step of stealing from people.

I appreciate black markets and what they offer me, so I am not talking shit about the markets. I am just calling attention to people making some weak ass bullshit excuses to justify the fact that they are dirty fucking thieves.

When evo went down and everybody's money was stolen, I bet a lot of you shitbag thieves were bitching, too.

No, I am not the same as you. No, buying LSD is not the same as ripping people off, stealing, buying kiddie porn, ect.

Fucking pathetic.


[5 Points] Hank_Vendor:

why don't you marry Amazon then


[6 Points] None:

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[5 Points] ChewyTheSheep:

Weren't Amazon one of the companies who bent over for the US govt against wikileaks?

Fuck 'em, and Paypal and Ebay too.


[4 Points] holecloud:

dude i tried to go fuck myself, but didn't have anything big enough or money to buy a big ass dildo, so i got on amazon and bought toilet paper and a dildo, now said TP was all twisted up on my dildo, Bam! Free dildo from amazon /u/adam2222 advice works get urself a free dildo on amazon.

Thanks bro, id give gold but im fresh out.


[4 Points] None:

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[2 Points] None:

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[4 Points] JinKazamaAndJuice:

I agree this is shitty and scummy but this is the carders element in DNM and it's not going to go away.


[3 Points] None:

I could never do this. I'm a terrible liar online but an involuntary liar in person.


[2 Points] OnAcidButUrThedum1:

ITT: People telling other people to get off their high horse.


[4 Points] None:

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My crime is okay but your crime is bad.


[3 Points] earthmoonsun:

Fuck amazon. Their nice customer service comes at a high price.

They are ruthless towards competitors, they offer same items from successful vendors on their page themselves and don't display the vendor's product on top of the search results anymore, they chose tax havens for tax evasion, they pay low wages, they want to have a (near-)monopoly and once they have it, they are likely abuse it, etc.

I don't care if this company disappears as fast as they appeared.


[3 Points] TotesMessenger:

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[3 Points] tjelectric:

Anecdotally, I've found this is true. I've been an Amazon customer for years and have had them give unparalleled customer service. Recently, I had an order arrive damaged (a less than ten dollar order). In past years they'd just refund me, no questions asked--now they want me to resend the broken pieces and for ten dollars, it's simply not worth it. Unfortunately, they have little choice but to be less generous in their policies now.


[3 Points] Spacelyyy:

Amazon refunding has been around since amazon became a thing. I doubt they would change their ways at this point in all honesty. Some asshats abusing the system is nothing to a company of that scale.


[2 Points] meantocows:

I never understood that service, it's nothing you couldn't do by yourself even easier. They're literally sending an email or making a phone call for 20-30%. It's like people forgot how to use Google before they throw money away.


[1 Points] admirdante:

It's funny. I live in Bosnia, a shithole of a country. And yet, every package I ever ordered that was domestic, and even international, arrived just fine. Not broken, not thrown all over the place, and definitely not stolen. And yet you guys in America have to deal with that shit all the time. I think it's time you rethink your shipping policies and start paying the drivers more. And here, if the person is not home, only a receipt is left in which they notify you that they tried to get it to you and since you weren't there, you have to go to the post office to get it. They don't leave it on your porch, just waiting to be stolen.


[2 Points] None:

Like it or not what a great discussion. Why can't we get arguments like this more often! Love all of you


[2 Points] ad8037:

Yeah good one...Is it noble to sell heroin? If I have an addicted son which buys from the darknet, should I blame the darknet or my son?

Amazon should really do some double check before refunding items


[2 Points] None:

Lol, who buys Amazon Refunds through the Darknet? There are tons of normal forums out there. Where you could learn how to do it yourself lmao.


[2 Points] IEatAnyAss:

If you don't like it, ignore it. There's fucking CP all over Tor but you're bitching about people ripping off a company that makes BILLIONS a year. Jeff Bezos could spend $1m a day for 33,000 days straight and still have another comfy billion for himself. You're a vagina dude.


[1 Points] monocacyducks:

well now more people know that scamming Amazon is possible. Not sure if that will benefit or not benefit us.


[1 Points] None:

I agree; at some point there has to be a separation between blatant criminal activity with a victim (fraud, theft, etc) and people who simply want to be anonymous and buy items that have chemical benefits. I totally disagree about DNM's being a carder paradise, invention, etc.; these people have primarily come for the chance to make cash after more 'personal liberty' minded individuals built a framework of BTC, TOR, market transactions, etc.

Stealing from people is shitty, no matter how it's done. As an herb smoker I really appreciated Cannabis Road, but it was the same old story with the market and BTC disappearing. What I suspect will happen, within 5-10 years (or less) is the DNMs will be primarily devoted to 'hard' drugs and international (US to abroad) herb sales with considerably fewer users - this presuming marijuana continues it's rapid pace towards legalization in the USA.


[1 Points] BrassTeacup:

I'd feel bad for Amazon if they paid their damn taxes, or their staff.


[1 Points] Zara02:

Can live with hacked Netflix accounts. Part of the game I guess. But I agree with the Amazon argument. At the end you're going to fuck an innocent person.


[1 Points] JunglistJunkie:

The Tesco Voucher's were amazing I must say, fuck Tesco's and fuck big Corporation's up their ass


[1 Points] None:

Lol spoken like someone who hasn't been alive for very long. You think businesses don't know about this and protect the margins? Jeez. Why do you think Sharpies are in the aisle but the videogames are behind glass?

One loses them money if it's stolen, the other doesn't. Now you've learned something and can calm the fuck down about how materialism works.


[1 Points] moonmoench:

Amazon is insured fort Those cases. excessive rape of amazon will only up their insurance payment.

As if they care. btw who doesn't wanna stick it to insurance companies from time to time


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[1 Points] TheCheesy:

It's a dark net market. Get over it. There is a lot more fucked up shit being sold on there.


[1 Points] blocka:

Been thinking about buying bitcoins. Been watching prices for two months and lots of bouncing around. Im not sure when best to jump in? What would you do? Im really hoping it gets down to $250 but I also defiantly want to get in under $300


[1 Points] None:

I have really mixed opinions on amazon. They allow all sorts of price gouging to happen and I don't agree with it. Further there's vendors who do go out of their way to fuck people over and even after there's multiple complaints they still have a store.

I've had a handful of times where I ordered something from an "established" vendor and got some cheap chinese piece of shit instead.

Amazon needs to make some serious changes to how their entire market place is set up and one of them is making it very clear when a vendor is in another country. A lot of times this isn't always clear.

Obviously this is up to the customer to look into the vendor, reviews, location of the office and what not, but I feel Amazon could make it easier on the customers.

That, plus now they have these fucking "add-on" packages where you can't even order it unless you make a larger purchase of like $30.00 or more. That's horse shit. I make beer and hooch at my home and I shouldn't have to spend $30 when all I want is a $6.00 pack of champagne yeast.


[-2 Points] pk3r4lif3:

I'm sure some people would feel the same way about you.


[0 Points] 19216815:

Welcome to the criminal underground dumb fuck.


[0 Points] None:

amazon has been losing money for years so I actually agree with this post. They may seem like a great site and make seem they make tons of money, but they truth is for such a big company and for how long they have been around they should be turning a profit by now.


[0 Points] agorathrow8080:

Ill get flamed with you OP...i agree. But, we need a drug market without the BS if orher illegal things. There should be a market for everything, as indicudual crimes. I love drugs, cant atand fraud, or guns, and buzzword for shit online journalist, hitmen even tho i have yet to.see one on a market...even fake watches etc..i can go to canal street and ny to.buy knockoffs...

Me rolling on my house hurts no one..sure some people duck those.around them, and dnm can lead.to.that point... but being on the good guy side for thing.like fraud, when someone grandma cant get her meds or food because someone ripped off her ssn and ruined her credit it changes your mind. Banking is more ruthless than the government, if its subtle and rhey cant prove it...it just doesnt disapear like people think, all the sudden grandma is in court...

I know there is that ahit aode to everything, but before people jump onto a bandwagon of this or that, they ahould understand all the consequences. .not just the ones they are using

So yes i know my mdma is killing forests, and people are kiliing trees for the oil etc..ill admit I don't care to much...to be honest, wven fraud i prob wont care about until it hits me, eveything has a reaction to our action...should we all care about eveything sure, but we wont sadly. Everything has a shit repercussion if its not legal. But i do think we should have markets for each illegal things and not an all in one system


[0 Points] None:

Amazon sucks ass anyways. It used to be a really good service.

Now it has turned to shit and it has gotten more greedy.

The service has become extremely lazy and unfriendly to customers


[0 Points] nckstack:

My biggest issue is, when it says package delivered, and you never see it, open a complaint and they dont help. Claim that it has to be there. Nope its not, a neighbor or a dog or a giant eagle with a gnome on his back stole my shit, and since its not the first time this giant eagle gnome theif hit me, they really dont care and wont help.


[0 Points] fragba1t:

Dear hypocrite: Go fuck yourself.


[0 Points] None:

oh, this can of worms, again


[0 Points] Moridakkubokka:

Fuck off pussyboy


[0 Points] ThatsAManMan:

Noble? There's something noble about buying a product produced by groups that promote murder, child slavery, environmental rape, and terrorists groups?

Don't give me that shit about "but if it wasn't illegal the money wouldn't be going them" bullshit. I agree with it but that doesn't change the here and now. Cartels control the trade. You buy the product. You promote cartels. Simple.

Wanna really change things? Buying drugs on a market don't do that. Lobbying, voting, rallying, and generally promoting the chnage of our laws do it. Buying your MXE so you can get high on the weekend doesn't make you a revolutionary. Just makes you a user adopting new methods of getting high.


[0 Points] infoMuse:

The darkweb needs to be a psychedelic only market. Weed, shrooms and acid primarily. The markets could get around the cartels if they didn't endorse hard drugs, weapons, counterfeits, fakes, etc. Unless you consider HoS, GG, and top_gear cartels...

Will they stop endorsing those products? No, cause it's 85% of the market share...less than 15% belongs to psychs. But it'd be a pleasant surprise: noble and altruistic/uncapitalistic. TMG is a good example: short-lived, I suspect, due to insufficient funding. They missed out on 85% of their potential regular customers, and 85% of their commissions. Insufficient funding.


[0 Points] LondonFuckBoys:

Waaaaanker!


[-2 Points] joeysupra:

uh, can anyone do an amazon refund for me? :)


[0 Points] None:

Lol. Amazon pays what is essentially fuck all tax


[-3 Points] Beauzeus:

As an Amazon employee I'd really appreciate if people stopped doing this.


[-1 Points] None:

They don't even pay taxes.... Why the fuck are you caring so much about this ? Are you working for Amazon and can't stop us ? LOL Darknet ain't noble that's for sure. Evolution scam can easily prove that. If you wanna be noble don't use these serviceses and pay for your orders. Example citizen my ass.....


[-1 Points] tachibanakanade:

But I guess the coke and the heroin are noble?


[-1 Points] tachibanakanade:

OP seems like a whiny bitch to me. Get off the fucking DNMs if you're gonna mourn for Amazon. Shouldn't you be concern trolling about us breaking the law when we buy drugs?


[-2 Points] jazzhonorface:

There is NOTHING noble about that, you're just a fucking scumbag.

Here's another one of those "moral criminal" rants on an unwritten code of ethics nobody gives a shit about; until they get scammed and start whining about how terrible DNMs are. Everyone's personal freedom causes a detriment to others at some point, that's just how life works.


[-2 Points] howtospeak:

I agree, amazon refunders are worse than carders.


[-4 Points] None:

They should take a step back and literally FUCK YOUR OWN FACE


[-4 Points] throwawayasdfabc:

pussy ass bitch


[-4 Points] Thoughtsofamaniac:

Go cry into your pillow, it's the only one who cares you self righteous sack of entitlement.

There's nothing "noble" about most of the darknet markets anyways. If you think an open online drug market is a "noble" concept you need to take the blunt out of your mouth, the needle out of your arm and the meth out of your nose and get a realistic grasp on the world outside of your drug habits. Sure, darknet markets make buying drugs safer. Sure, we all like doing drugs. But don't fucking pretend most of the people buying drugs on the dark net have any control over where their money eventually ends up. Know where it usually ends up? No, not in the vendors hands, only the profits go there. The expenses end from the vendors though is paid for directly by sales, and guess where the sources for these drugs typically are which the vendors have to buy from? Cartels, gangs, organizations that do other businesses like human trafficking etc. And if not from them, then probably somebody who is just another link in the chain to them. The money you spend on your blow or MDMA or whatever on the darknet has probably at least a 60-70% chance of eventually ending up in the hands of a criminal enterprise that is also violent. Weed and shrooms and to an extent meth are some of the more common exceptions because they can be produced by small scale OPs, but the biggest contenders are still the gangs and cartels or people working with them who can get higher grade sourced product for cheaper.

So boiled down, what you're essentially saying is it's more "noble" to take a high probability chance of sending funds directly to the profits of violent criminal organizations to get drugs than to financially scam a major retail organization out of small scale profits?

Man you have a fucked up moral compass you need to go back to smoking your cartel pot.


[-4 Points] None:

Drug dealers with conscience? LOLZ. Good one.