Can police trace your bitcoin to the DNM?

If someone were to allow the police to look through their bank records (what's done is done), and said person had used that bank account to buy bitcoin, then sent that bitcoin to person2 who then spent it on the DNM's and sent a (pretty small, less than 10 user doses) package to person1 and the package got caught in customs which is why the police came in the first place. Could person1 then say he bought the bitcoin for investment, or would the police trace it and figure out that's a lie?

Bonus question: if person1 also allowed the police to look through his phone and he and person2 had talked about drug experiences on social media (what's done is done), how likely is it that person2 will be getting a visit?

Person1 has not admitted to anything, but has consented to search of premises (nothing was found), phone and bank records.

Person2 has ordered multiple times. His house, phone and computer is clean, but he has bought bitcoins with his bank account. If he gets a visit should he deny all knowledge and consent to a search of house, phone and computer and ask for a warrant if they want to search his bank records or just deny all knowledge and ask for a warrant if they want to search anything? If he asks for a warrant, is it likely that they will actually get one?


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[2 Points] young_k:

I would guess this depends on whether or not its a DarkNet investigation - or they know about any involvement you may have had in the DarkNet. Hell, the cops looking at this shit may not even know what the DNM's are - that all depends on the case and agency etc.

Buying BTC is not illegal though.....(in most countries)....and neither is selling BTC.

What someone else did with BTC you sold them is completely on them, and blockchain analysis is still in its infancy as far as LE goes (building cases based on it and stuff).


[1 Points] None:

On the off chance that a small town cop would even know about the DNMs... there's no fucking way they could follow the blockchain.


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] travelghost:

If what they have is bank records, they might put two and two together and figure out you bought bitcoin. Assuming they have any idea what bitcoin is, they still don't have any information about the transaction. They'd need to somehow get info about the transaction and follow it through the blockchain. Even if no tumbler was used and they traced it all the way back to person 2 and then to a DNM, they STILL couldn't prove that you actually bought anything illegal with it.

If Person 1 tells cops that he had Person 2 buy drugs for him on the internet, Person 2 needs to stop talking to Person 1. Other than that, keep yourself squeaky clean and don't leave evidence laying around.


[1 Points] AndThenHeSays4:

They technically can but they won't in your case.


[1 Points] loveisrealnfa:

Someone who doesn't like you for whatever reason must have heard you talk about your interest in bitcoin and used your curiosity against you by having drugs mailed to your house.

Drugs is bad, sir Idk y they would do this to me. As for th e social media posts, you were trying to fit in and sound cool.


[1 Points] None:

Can they? Yes. Does your average PD have someone capable of doing that? Probably not.


[1 Points] madisonrebel:

Simple question: how much would it cost to do all that work, and what would be the end return to law enforcement of arresting, convicting and incarcerating someone simply for ordering personal amounts of a substance?

If it's non-personal amounts, you shouldn't be asking these questions.


[1 Points] None:

okay mate, lets get sober for a moment and put your head cold. if you get raided is because you either

a) got drugs mailed to you

b) you are laudering enough money in such a shitty fashion that you attracted the five eyes attention

you are not agora, no one is going to waste their time proving that you could have done something illegal, tracing every bitcoin purchase you have done, wasting their time on petty evidence when, in reality, all it takes to break you is a nice 15 hours session of government-approved waterboarding in your house.

realize mate, if someone wants to find you, they will find you. no matter if you have done all your DNM purchases on a burner laptop with tails and 200 proxies on a public wifi. how much it takes you to piss off the governmet up to that scale is up to you.


[1 Points] 3chainzyolo2:

yes