Why do all darknetmarkets suck?

I'm serious. There is a fortune to be made with a DNM that is halfway decent. I know the two best ones got taken down, but there should be many (and ideally a distributed one) that isn't amateurish, has a decent search function and enforced listing categories, and doesn't have its listings swamped with stupid e-guides and fraudulent porn site accounts listed in every category under the sun. Dream just looks like garbage, for instance.

If I ran a site, I'd reserve the right to read your messages and ban you instantly for not using user-end PGP. I'd also reserve the right to try to hack other darknet accounts using the password/pin you used on my site.

Is someone out there diligently working on something decent? Why not?

Fuck, I wish I knew how to program.


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[26 Points] wombat2combat:

There is a fortune to be made with a DNM that is halfway decent.

simply not worth the risk for skilled coders. there are easier, less riskier and more profitable methods to earn money.

If I ran a site, I'd reserve the right to read your messages and ban you instantly for not using user-end PGP. I'd also reserve the right to try to hack other darknet accounts using the password/pin you used on my site.

that is the spirit. I would not even be mad, I would see that as a positive change.


[20 Points] None:

Ask Ross. Can't ask Alex. There is no amount of money worth freedom.


[9 Points] C66HH12OO6:

I would do it all, but Im really scared of spooks.


[10 Points] ferRealBruh:

people who can build top notch web apps don't need to operate illegally. they can make plenty of cash on the clear web.


[7 Points] DNMUK25:

Takes a lot of knowledge expertise and meticulous planning and execution to create something like alphabay was, it won't happen over night. Hopefully another market will rise to the occasion and take over soon!


[6 Points] Throwaway666764w676:

Why Don't you do it? If it's Such a good idea why not swoop in and take the cake before everyone else does? Wishful thinking.


[5 Points] papervoid:

Black Market Reloaded was just about the classiest exit you could hope for.


[4 Points] BananasAndBlowMe:

I don't understand the stigma against dream. Sure, it's not as slick as AB, but it works and is fast.


[3 Points] mynamesalwaystaken:

Any site that is talked about on the surface, will be shit eventually.


[3 Points] justinherass99:

be grateful you don't know how to program.


[3 Points] ThrowinItAllAway6234:

I'm currently working on a vendor website, for personal use. I probably wont have it done for a few months maybe 3-7.

Yes, that is a huge margin of time, but I need to be 100% sure nothing is going to happen to me in the process. An updated version of TOR is going to be released, and that's what I plan to work around.

I see the markets heading into that direction, but that means the vendors are going to have to be more tech savvy, or have to trust someone to make them a secure site, or have to be confident they didn't make any mistakes in the process, and that is a whole lot of what ifs, this is generally why most vendors just use marketplaces because the only risk ends up being shipping, and making sure nothing leaks to any bad guys. I come from a programming background, and just so happen to be in this space.

There 100% certainly are people working on new markets right now, there are 100% going to be more marketplaces. There are already new marketplaces popping up. They aren't good right now, but with time they might get a little better. These marketplaces aren't going anywhere, the people running them just need to be smarter than the multi-million dollar operation that is trying to kill them.

As a programmer sure, you could make 70-90k a year, and up to 200k if you're at that level, but you have to know Alphabay was making 800k a day If Alphabay kept running for another year at those numbers that's 292 million a year. There are going to be more marketplaces. More people are going to try their hand at it, but just because you have an onion site doesn't mean it's going to be good, or that you're going to make that much in a day. There is so much risk in this space, everyone that has given it a shot is either dead, or behind bars, just remember that.

How the markets currently stand, none of them can hold the users that Alphabay was holding. Alphabay was designed for large scale usability, none of the markets are currently made for that. Dream is out of the question for many reasons. Unless Dream makes major changes, and why would they? Then they're just going to be that subpar market that's at the top (right now) I would rather not do business for 12 months than use that garbage, it really is a terrible marketplace. All you have to do is use it to realize this.


[2 Points] Coolbreazzz:

Game plan = fill out a business model, start a kickstarter page laying out said plan, get some rich mogul that his real agenda is cp but will give u lots of money to hire your "team" and boom you will be hanging out in Thailand driving lambos in no time...yes I did that on purpose "hanging" out


[1 Points] throwaw4yaskmisellen:

most of them are invite only right now but there are some vendors on sourcery with sales.


[1 Points] bmoresavich4139:

Maybe there is a great coder that is a felon and cant even get a chance to get a good day job paying well, hope we find one.


[1 Points] scruffwuff:

DHL


[1 Points] iterator5:

Are you suggesting you'd store user passwords and pin numbers in a manner that allowed you to see them in plain text? Why on earth would anyone want to sign up for a site with such trash security?


[1 Points] mygoddamnameistaken:

They got too publicized.


[1 Points] knotmyrealname:

I think most popular darknet markets are great. When used intelligently they provide a safe, cost effective way for me to get my drugs.

Sure they don't last forever. There are teams of smart people trying to close them down all day, every day. The fact that good, new sites pop up almost immediately keeps me pretty satisfied with markets in general. And yes I have lost some coins along the way but well worth the chance.

Some of my favorites that served me well but are gone...SilkRoad, BlackMarketReloaded, DeepWebCannabis, Agora and of course AlphaBay. Many thanks to anyone who made those happen. There are scores of us who appreciate the gamble you took.


[1 Points] MotherOfMeatballs:

If i was to code a market, i'd wait until after the BTC fork.Probably coming some up i imagine


[1 Points] None:

I have been a developer for decades and have built complex web apps way more complicated than the DNMs.

But I would never ever attempt to make my own market site. All it takes is one eensy tiny mistake and I am cellmates with Ross or maybe I accidentally hanged myself in my cell.

I'm not that good of a programmer and no one else is really. That's why DNMs suck.


[1 Points] MagicDeliveryBox:

DreamMarket may look bad, but works just fine.


[1 Points] MagicDeliveryBox:

I think the time of huge market places is over ...


[1 Points] None:

They suck because of autistic, retarded scammers like Umbreon aka SeedOfChaos aka u/stilldogman aka Andrew Nakamura.


[0 Points] PartySquadNL:

I would say the target on the back of DNM admin is bigger as a rapist, murderer or even Pablo Escobar. It´s a serious risk, that´s the reason.