What's up ladies and gentleman? I wanted to post because I came across some green S 90 3's the other day. They look legit and have a bitter aftertaste, albeit towards the latter part of chewing em up and swallowing them. Well I was looking thru them just because I've seen a ton of fake; GG's, G's (Greenstones), XANAX 2's, etc.... Well I thought the only two bars that had not been comprised yet were the yellow Pupacs and the green hulk ( S 90 3's). Needless to say I took a Purpac the other day and nothing! The texture and density were way off and I had no relaxation whatsoever. So I'm thinking the hulk are the only legit ones left, well while looking at them for defects I noticed one of the green bars was labeled R039? The pill looked like a Purpac with the same markings and shape but it was green! The exact same green as the S 90 3's. I can't say how disappointed I am to conclude that the fakes have saturated the markets so well that I would bet money pharmacies will soon be hit with some batches of fakes! I only get my bars from Mexico now and I only buy Tafil as it is distributed by Pfizer and the containers are sealed from the distribution company. I can post a pic of all of the fakes I've come across as I've saved one of each and study them. For instance, the fake Greenstones or G's seem to have the G perfectly centered on the left quadrant while the real Greenstones have the G slightly to the left as opposed to perfectly centered. Another dead giveaway is the density, strength it takes to break them and the way desipates with water or saliva. If you have a half of a bar and its scored and you're having a hard time breaking it (which has happened to me) there's something very wrong. I'm currently a premed student and I've thought about charging 5-10$ to have people send me samples so that I may run it thru a GC or an MS machine and send them readouts highlighting the amounts of what substances are present in their medication. These machines in short are extremely accurate as they measure the distance between the bonds in the atoms then you simply compare it to a graph and find the peaks that match your readout. It'seems actually very easy but the equipment is very expensive. I think the worst thing is, is that the placebo effect is strong in the mind of a person who needs/wants a certain medication and in some instances they may actually contain Alprazolam or some other benzo. I had a friend tell me his friend was pressing good 2mg bars to make 3mg bars, I was like wtf? Why wouldn't he just sell two 2mg bars and let the customer break them as needed. It makes no sense to me. I'm under the impression that people are just getting greedy and stretching 2mg bars which should be about 5$ and making .25mg, .50, or 1mg bars posing as 2mg and making anywhere from 10$-20$ off of 2mg. I purpose that we start tracking these fakes with weights, sizes WxLxD, photos and their orgin. We really need to help each other out cause sooner or later these are just going to contain sleeping medication or worse. I'm new to this thread so any PM's, replies or comments are welcomed! Stay up, be safe and check all meds before coping anything that you don't see come out of a pharmacists window. I'd also stay far away from anything overseas, they are the masters of counterfeit production. As of now the only bars i can say for sure are real are ones from an American or Mexican pharmacy. I did run across some 2mg tablets that were lozenges and tasted like mint plus they were inot blisters. I doubt the couterfiters will go to that extent but you never know. For now all I can suggest is take atleast half before you buy them, check the score and see if it looks professional and break them to see how hard or easy they crack. If you've been using Xans for a while you should have a good idea. Some heads I know do a drop test where they drop it from like 2-3' on the counter to see if they break. If they break they pass, not too scientific but sometimes you just can't be. I would definetly stay away from the GG's and also be leary of a guy that breaks out with like 300 in a ziplock bag, that's a bad sign and I don't think I need to explain why. Well I look forward to some disscussion! Stay safe, Merck Em All
PS If yall wana see any fakes that I've found just let me know.
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