Nucleus Refugee's Thoughts on AlphaBay

I chose Nucleus because of all the shady things I've read about AlphaBay. Well, the latter is still standing and I needed some drugs so I signed up yesterday. Made two deposits and everything went smoother than it ever did on Nucleus.

Going from Nucleus to AlphaBay is like upgrading from a hoopty to a BMW. I don't think I'll be going back to Nucleus even if it returns.

People say "well it's run by russian carders." I don't fuck with carding in the least, but I do like the fact it's russian-owned as it likely means it's state-sponsored and out of the scope of the miserable fuckheads at the DEA, FBI, etc.

Curious to hear where other Nucleus refugees landed with next week's holiday looming?


Comments


[2 Points] Pelican_Vendor:

BMW are shit and have to many problems. DHL Is like a Porsche. It is really fucking nice and goes fast but we just take it for Sunday Drives and cruise...


[3 Points] GrandWizardsLair:

AlphaBay has a good selection of vendors. If you choose your seller carefully and use 2FA -- which you should be using on every market anyway -- you should avoid the worst troubles. And whatever you do be sure to save your mnemonic in the event of troubles later!

ITGWO, the only time the "carder" thing becomes an issue is when AB tries to offer customer support. They have done a lot of good things for customer security and safety -- their recent forced 2FA for vendors is a good example. But we frequently see the carder attitudes come to the front in disputes. There's an attitude of "if you were stupid enough to get scammed you deserve to lose your money." And while that may or may not be true it doesn't go very far toward making customers feel warm, fuzzy and secure. But again this can be avoided if you choose your vendors carefully and understand their escrow system might not protect you in the case of a dispute.

If you want a relatively painless multisig implementation the Grand Wizard can't say enough good things about Hansa Market. Hansa has less vendors than AB but that numbers game can be misleading: all you need is one good seller offering the product you want at a fair price. Their 2-of-2 multisig is no more complicated for a buyer than conventional escrow and far safer for all concerned: their 2-of-3 is also solid although it is a bit more involved.

We've had good experiences on DHL and are getting a good bit of our business from there. (Over the past few days they have been running neck-in-neck with AB). Perhaps the nicest thing about DHL is their vetting system: their vendors all have track records for reliability and honesty. And while we wish Dream had multisig that's our only gripe: we have had no problems whatsoever on Dream and also use it regularly as a buyer.

We just reopened our shops on Oasis and Outlaw. The former is a promising new market and the latter is one of the oldest DNMs out there. Outlaw's interface is clunky but once you get used to it it's no problem and their administration is fantastic -- among the best and most responsive we have ever worked with.


[3 Points] AgileDnM:

AB is the safest marketplace IMO. The fact that the support staff require either English or Russian tells me the owners live in Russia and will likely never be touched by anyone in the US justice department. This in my mind makes them much less likely to exit-scam than say a US based DNM.


[2 Points] trynakick:

I think there is a big difference between "likely state sponsored" and "the state just doesn't give a fuck". If I were running a petro-oligarchy I wouldn't lift a finger to fuck with some computer nerds hustle. The Russian state has enough going for it, skimming 4% off the top of some drug transactions isn't that lucrative, if you control more land mass than any other nation state.

Plus. I trust the Russian government to have better PR/mods than trappy (who is growing on me) and Big Muscles.


[2 Points] CosmicBites:

Hansa 100% Best market right now hands down!


[1 Points] TheDragooon420:

Heard way too many shady things about AB to even consider it.


[1 Points] idonthavedowns:

Not a fan of alphabay, too many regular posts about people having deposit issues and other shit to just be a coincidense, either they have way more people posting phishing links or their is some shady shit going on.

Nuclues was my favorite market by far, nice clean feel and admins had decent response times. ALSO cb2015 was on there, best vendor


[1 Points] Kazaa99:

You know its run by thieves who have no problem stealing money from innocent people, and not caring if they are are poor or an old retired grandmother or just plain normal people (this lowlife loser way of stealing is also called "carding"). So you know they will shut down and steal the money at some point. If you want to use it, then just be sure to take all precautions when buying there to not lose your money (use multisig or make sure you transaction is fast so the vendor ships your order not long after you have made the deposit)


[-4 Points] aSchizophrenicCat:

This post is unnecessary and your opinion does not matter.

There are no "refugees" anymore. If you aren't already utilizing every market then you are doing things wrong. No point in being loyal to these markets.. Don't be a fool.