[Complaint/Warning] I am 99% confident "vendorz" speed (amphetamine) paste is not real amphetamines

I bought 5g of vendorz' speed paste a few weeks ago.

I tried to dry it, as you do with speed paste, and it didn't seem to dry completely - after a few days of trying to dry it, the powder still didn't feel dry.

The powder was white, crumbly, and stuck together. And most importantly, no matter how much I tried to dry it, the powder still felt wet to the touch.

I tried snorting it when I first "dried" it out, and it felt like it really burned my nasal cavity.

Around 30 minutes ago I (stupidly) tried snorting it again, and after I got about half way through a small line it felt really wrong. I'm experienced enough with snorting, I've snorted my fair share of cocaine, and especially amphetamines. But after snorting only half a line of this, it burned worse than anything else I've ever done, and I involuntarily started coughing and dry heaving while it felt like this substance was burning a hole through my nose. I snorted a lot of water and blew my nose a ton, but it still burns.

Has anyone heard about this, or had experience with the vendor?

I can't afford a test kit, so the only way I could really test it to see if its real is to snort it and wait to see if it affects me, but if I do that I'm afraid it will kill me.

Pictures: http://imgur.com/a/AfsvE

Edit: I also forgot to mention that it doesn't really dissolve in water


Comments


[14 Points] None:

If you can afford to buy drugs on the internet you can afford to buy a test kit to make sure you don't die


[2 Points] Aminull:

From the painful burn and failure to completely dry, it reminds me of a poorly executed batch of meth.


[2 Points] None:

Get off this sub. This is fucking ridiculous. Go buy a fucking test kit before you kill yourself or just keep snorting.


[1 Points] throwahooawayyfoe:

But after snorting only half a line of this, it burned worse than anything else I've ever done, and I involuntarily started coughing and dry heaving while it felt like this substance was burning a hole through my nose.

sound like ethylphenidate. that stuff will burn a hole in your nose.


[1 Points] hdheuud:

Speed paste burns when you snort it. Especially if its not all dry


[1 Points] ILikeToThrowAwaaayy:

As everybody has said, get a fucking test kit, it's the only way to really find out.

Based on the info given, it is likely methyl or ethylphenidate. However, this would be water soluble (sold as HCl salt).

doesn't really dissolve in water

This isn't very specific. Temperature is a huge factor here. Put a small amount in a vial or some test-tube-like object, place a minimal amount of water to just cover it. Heat with boiling water or a lighter - dont let the sample boil. If it fully disolves it's likely very soluble. If an orange-ish oil forms on top, it's likely freebase is present. Salt (NaCl) is very soluble in water, but you'll find that it can take a while in cold water. When the solution cools again some solid may appear. This means it's soluble in water, but there isnt enough water for it at room temp. This would imply it's not amphetamine.

Finally, you can try an appropriate dose orally to see if it has any stimulant effects. You may be able to tell the difference if experienced enough.

TLDR; Get test kit. Test solubility in a scientific manner. Observe solubility and oil droplets. Try oral ROA.

EDIT: screwed up my formatting...


[1 Points] None:

I'm not sure what's going on, but it seems like something's going on. And it seems like there's a shitload of speed vendors on agora at the moment. And like around 7 months ago I was occasionally buying 5-10 grams from a couple vendors, and it was all pretty much identical, sometimes very wet with some watery looking liquid, that wasn't water, reeked of some strong chemical smell, and putting a dab on your tongue felt very caustic and would burn your mouth, and was sometimes a yellowish tint. Then I started buying the 25g listings from snapback and it basically had the same qualities except the color was a little whiter, and the paste was not as wet. Then snapback was out of stock for a short time so I ended up buying another 25g from BHLCREW sold under the banner of "oil speed paste" which took longer to dry, but was fairly potent, then I bought another 25g from BHLCREW, but this time the paste didn't have much smell and the quality was shit. I sent a msg to BHLCREW yesterday, but no response yet.

tl;dr I've got 25 grams of newly arrived speed paste, dried out to about 17 grams, nice white powder, and it's fucking useless.


[0 Points] DNMd:

Looks like speed paste. Dry it under some heat, even a hot light bulb will evap any solvent left in there.

I can't afford a test kit

Can't afford $10? But you can afford drugs?


[-2 Points] None:

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