Return to sender happened, should I consider my address burned?

Tracking shows: unable to deliver as addressed, will be returned to sender if enough information is provided. Vendor states that the return addess was a bussiness, and he has refunded the order. Obviously his return address is burned, but is the address it was being sent to burned as well? Also, if it is burned, is my name burned along with it, or can I open a new PO box in a neighboring city? Any help or advice would be appreciated.


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[7 Points] Blurry_bars:

step 1 send computer to belize. step 2 burn down my ex fiances house and her parents house for good measure. step 3 send all your packs to mmy house.


[5 Points] Seraphim_X:

You should notify the vendor.


[4 Points] GrandWizardsLair:

On boards dedicated to international pharmacies and the people who buy their medication therefrom, many participants laugh about the stacks of "love letters" they have received. This suggests that they don't consider addresses "burned" because of customs letters: it also suggests that American LE is not really interested in busting personal use buyers.

If the vendor was sending you bulk quantities of meth or MDMA, you may want to take some precautions. If the order was a few grams of weed or something similar you are probably fine.


[3 Points] GrandWizardsLair:

Also, you may want to tell your vendor to be careful about using businesses as return addresses. The Hammertime bust started when one of his packs was returned to a major law firm. The mailroom opened it to find a DVD case containing a bag of powder and called the FBI to report bioterrorism. The Feds were not amused to find out the anthrax powder was really meth. ITGWRC another vendor got into trouble when a pack of his heroin wound up returned to the megachurch he used for a return address.


[2 Points] Ize0fTheWorld:

I really think this is just paranoia. Why would the authorities pass up making a controlled delivery? Yes the fact they won't deliver it does indicate they may have randomly opened it and had the return address been real, the CD would've been done on the vendor--but they anticipate h/she isn't going to call asking about their package(hence more information needed from return address) I have family that have worked and retired for usps and regular mail carriers don't usually go through all this for RTS trouble this one has brought about. Usually if it's undeliverable it's thrown in what they call the tossed mail bin and usually all of its contents are RTS and off it all goes back together for that day..each truck returns from their routes each with a toss bin to dump in the RTS pile. Usually that's where the story ends for RTS mail.

What let's me know this was pulled by a PI is the fact there was no attempt made by the carrier at all to deliver it which is suspicious in itself. This means it was possibly leaking something that aroused suspicions, permeated an odor, or that vendor and his associated sending addresses are burned and that person is being monitored, that I guarantee. If you can tell him to go on vacay asap.

Back to you---securely wipe & format that pc, burn any mail or excess crap associated with dnm activities that you may have(I know some send funny stealth stuff, stickers, promo product Cards---burn it all!) I can't stress burning mail enough..once ya throw it away anyone can sift through and take a look at some of those tracking#s and return addresses to see if they match up with other ongoing investigations.

Also ditch whatever profile your were using on dnm and go under new name with different pgp key but do not order anything from the DNA to your address for at least 3 months. Try to order stuff from ebay and out of the country like the UK for regular stuff during these 3 months--that way they'll assume the vendor made a mixup sending to wrong address (it happens) by this time they'll have seen your 3 months worth of orders aren't anything to look out for anymore.

Hope this helps, stay cool.


[0 Points] asgorr:

burn your address, your house, your PC, your dog (he knows too much)...ehh, fuck go all out in a literal blaze of glory and burn yourself too /s

I'd go PO box just be safe, maybe consider taking some time let things cool off if you feel too at risk. Better safe than sorry, especially in this game.