Drspin and a 500mg order of china white.

Well, I normally don't leave reviews, this isn't really a review as much as it is a warning. I'm a heroin user, I used 3-6 bags a day, for around 6 months. So I was physically dependent for this time.

I went away to a different state to get clean for 7 days, I was successful for the most part, I used 2 out of the 7 days, and got through the vast majority of the physical part of WD. When I arrived there was this pack waiting for me.

Now, i'm normally pretty safe about my use, i'm a snorter, I don't shoot and I weigh out my doses. I know that doesn't justify my heroin use, or make it any better. I weighed out 20mg of this stuff. It was white, and really powdery, almost like the flour you cook with. I snorted this 20mg, and I almost immideatly knew that something was wrong. I know what good dope feels like, and this wasn't it, I wasn't really eurphoric, racing heart, sweating ect. Now, at this point, this was 2-3 min after I snorted it, I got up from my living room, this is were I forget what happens.

Luckily, there were two other people with me that were there, otherwise I would be dead, no doubt, considering how much narcan it took to bring me back. The people that were with my when I ODed said I just went down in the kitchen, i'm glad there was somebody to break my fall otherwise I bet I would have slammed my head on the tile floors.

I wake up with 2 paramedics, and 4 cops around me, I was told later in the back of the amblulance. Lets rewind to when I got my first shot of Narcan and there was a paramedic over me.

Its hard to describe what that feels like, waking up gasping for air and such, I don't want to get too dramatic about it and feely, but it is still emotional for me, this happened two days ago.

I was told in the back of the ambulance that police got there first and administered two sprays of narcan up the nose, than paramedic shot me with Narcan, and this is when I woke up.

I felt obligated to let the community know, that there is no way this is just heroin, I normally do 200-300mg too really get off, 20mg should not have made me fall out. Stay safe, and as always test your product and always weigh your doses. be safe out there.


Comments


[10 Points] swampboy0766:

Fucking asshole so driven by greed they are willing to kill people by using fentanyl and passing it off as H. You really are a piece of shit if you're cutting with fent or trying to pass off another substance using fent and without full disclosure.


[2 Points] traderofswings:

He's banned already bro. But assholes like this will always come back if there's money to be made. You heroin guys need to let everyone know what state he was shipping from, pack stealth type etc to help mitigate his new accounts.

Stay safe motherfuckers


[1 Points] Calypso420:

Its sad but "China White" is basically used to descibe any fentanyl now adays. There is very pure China White #4 out there but Ive always found "China White" to be Fent.. Its a shame, Im just glad I got out of the Dope game. Im on methadone daily now tho.. (-_-)

Im Glad your alright and didnt die man..


[1 Points] box672:

From what I've seen, the only people selling proper Golden Triangle SEA#4 on DNMs are Australian and a small selection of Canadian dealers

There's some Aussies with gear that's been lab tested at between 90-95%. If you wanna see what China White is really about hit some of them up, just be prepared for a shock when you're quoted the price. There recommending test shots of no bigger than 0.02 for even experienced users, which seems insane. I haven't got high off that little since I was 16-17 and had no tolerance


[1 Points] None:

You took 20mg of fent?? It must be cut.. you are lucky it was cut... glad you are okay but that was pretty reckless


[1 Points] Throwaw1776:

Really glad you're ok!

I saw his listings in the heroin section, before he removed heroin from the item title. I assumed it was some type of fent since it said China white heroin and mentioned the strength and the very low recommended dose, and I stayed away. A couple days later there was buzz in the heroin thread about ods on the stuff. I guess he openly told people it was fent if they asked, but it was never specified in the description. He was bound to kill people listing it in the heroin section and calling it China white heroin. I know shortly after, he removed heroin from the title, but I still don't think he added the fact it was fent to the description. I'm glad you lived to warn others.

I can't stress enough that anyone purchasing dope should check in on the heroin thread over at the abraxas forum first. Do your research! This isn't directed at the OP, just to dope purchasers in general who are on this sub. There's a lot of garbage product and scammers right now. Read through the last 5 pages or so on the heroin thread and see what's what with the scene. It's gone downhill a lot over the last year. There are some good vendors, and good product out there, but you've gotta research. Most new vendors are garbage.


[0 Points] None:

China white has two meanings. Think "molly" except the difference can be much more dangerous if you do not know what you have

Was this sold as actual heroin? Or just China white? The term "China white" will mean either:

A) white #4 heroin from South East Asia. This is what I've always known it as locally since I first tried dope 9 years ago. I had two connects for #4, one of which had steady grey rocks that were really potent and he sold the exact same product for months and months. The other had Chunks of China white for a few weeks and then some tan afghan chunks after that. Seemed like they either had two connects or one that had connects for both batches. My connect would have one for a few weeks, then have the other for a few weeks but the quality of each was always right about the same as the last time I had it from him. They had different effects due to the Afghan #4 having metabolites that the China white didn't have, making the China a much more "up", more functional high...it feels a lot "cleaner" most people would say, compared to the Afghan #4 which feels a lot more like black tar because of the MAM metabolites that cause a histamine rush which equals more intense dope itch. This is a lot more "nod heavy" than authentic China white (where I'm from this means white heroin from the golden triangle, again.

Or, what is likely what you Got : B) fentanyl or one of the many fent analogs that are super cheap and even easy for someone with some simple lab equipment and chemistry knowledge to make leading to lots of makeshift labs in garages. This was a huge issue years ago when fake oxy 80s were being made in Canada containing fentanyl and no oxycodone years ago and spread all over the place. There have been issues with not only heroin cut with fent or a fent cut, but fent/fent analog+a cut being sold as heroin. This usually leads to many overdoses and many deaths in the areas the Bullshit is sold. There were even posters put up in the methadone clinics and needle exchanges here about these batches spreading in Chicago or on the east coast...since I know a lot of our #4 comes from either the east coast or Chicago, I started testing my #4 for fent or any active drugs other than actual heroin after first seeing those posters which I first saw years ago at a local needle exchange

I'm not familiar with this vendor or this specific product, but if it was just sold as "China white", and not "China white #4 heroin from the golden triangle or south east Asia" or something similar, you made a huge mistake my purchasing in the first place imo, and an even bigger mistake by not testing it before ingesting it. Unfortunately unless you already knew about the two different meanings for the term China white and the issues surrounding meaning B that go back years, documented all over the news and lots of info from the dea after an outbreak of fent sold as dope fent cut heroin simply sold as strong heroin.

What you described sounds a lot like meaning B, probably mannitol with a little bit of fent or one of the many fent analogs easily available for cheap on the clearnet for idiots who can't synth it themselves. If you normally need 2-3 points to get off when it comes to known heroin, If you Sniffed 20mg of this "China white" and overdosed...it's most likely a mainly a cutting agent like mannitol with some fent or a fent analog in it that wasn't mixed properly. Hot spots in the mixture cause a lot of the overdose deaths on the streets...the rest due to addicts doing what would normally be a typical dose of actual heroin. And most addicts don't do test shots every time they get a new batch, and especially don't test their dope because "either one would be a waste of their dope. And if they only have a small amount of money a day to stay well, they're almost always going to say fuck a test shot and dive right in to a typical line or shot...usually just thinking they just got some white dope until they do that dose and OD and either they get lucky like you did, or they die adding to the death toll of that specific batch of fent or one of its analogs, or severely cut heroin with a little fent or an analog also used to try and make the highly cut heroin seem like a strong product.

Fent is a LOT less euphoric than heroin, and even the most popular of the more euphoric analogs like pfbf or fu-fent. It makes me sick knowing how often batches like this pop up on the streets and how many usually fall out and die because of an inconsistency in the mix (hot spots as I said before) or the fact that they simply had too much...doses that would be normal for them if it were actual heroin without a fent or fent analog cut. But because fent is an INSANELY potent drug, as are most of its analogs. Even the less potent analogs that are popularly used are more potent than pure heroin mg for mg.

This is scary. And people fucking with dope need to know about this stuff when buying a product labeled China white online especially if there is no mention of it being #4 heroin from South East Asia/the golden triangle

Glad to hear you made it though...I started smarting up after first seeing a warning poster at that needle exchange and reading about the surge of overdoses inches Chicago I believe it was at the time. Either way the #4 we get here is almost always potent chunks/rocks of grey, white, or tan #4 smack coming from Chicago or new York so I bought a test kit...I was a daily user with a high tolerance at the time and although most addicts in my situation would say fuck that and use the money for moe dope...but I started testing any batch of #4 I got for fent or any other active cut before I put any of it in my body. I never did get anything that was cut with fent but still...making this decision was easy after my girlfriend died in my arms after a 40mg shot of some local #4 years ago, which was usually a test shot for her. The cops that showed up first didn't have narcan at the time (most probably didn't even know what it was in my smallish town at the time) and she was gone completely by the time the paramedics finally got to our place. I had the rest of what I purchased and tested it...it turned out to be nothing more than extremely potent dope. Had to have been as close to pure as I've seen locally because her shot was weighed to 40mg which is usually nothing for anyone with any sort of tolerance even with the good dope we get here. This was just on another level of Purity.

Buy a test kit and Stay safe. Don't buy anything labeled China white without specifically stating that it's SEA #4 heroin and not just sold as "China white" which could be anything. Start testing each batch you get for active cuts as using that small amount for testing is worth possibly saving your life. Especially after you have an experience/scare like this