Legal advice?

So, without getting into specifics, I'm getting REALLY nervous about the recent EU busts. I've had a bit of stuff coming in from Germany recently. If the vendor kept records...I might be in a bad way.

I have a decent amount of money stashed away and in the last few days I can't stop thinking about putting it to a "preemptive" use. I'm thinking that it might be prudent to hire a lawyer, on retainer, just in case the shit goes down. But this is where it gets a little difficult...

I'm wondering, given attorney-client privilege, is it smart, at all, to actually tell the lawyer, "I have ordered drugs in the mail from Germany. Now I am worried about the police fucking with me." This way he can be better prepared to defend me if, or when, the time comes? Is there any reason not to admit guilt to your own lawyer? I mean, he's MY lawyer, right? How do these things work? I've always been very careful, and have never been in trouble with the law. Rightfully, all I really know about lawyers is from fucking Law and Order and I'm pretty damn sure that's not going to cut it.

Any help/advice/encouragement? And, PLEASE, keep your shitty comments to yourself. Just a concerned user, like the rest of you, looking out for his best interest. Thanks.


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[5 Points] DarkKnight_1111:

I dont think its very smart to go into great deal about your illegal acts with ANYBODY until you are actually caught, or know for a fact you are going to be. Also lawyers get paid hourly, you really want to pay your lawyer to hear your admitting to things before you even have to? IF you ever even do have to? Just wait bro. Chances are your name wont even come up, and if it does thats when you go into save your ass mode.


[3 Points] toss-1:

Shut up & have a lawyer on retainer, anymore questions? Seriously entering the game ill prepared is a man without a plan


[1 Points] DNM_Law:

is it smart, at all, to actually tell the lawyer, "I have ordered drugs in the mail from Germany. Now I am worried about the police fucking with me.”

Yes.

Typically, anything you tell your attorney is protected by the ACP.
One of the few instances in which what you tell your attorney falls outside ACP protection is when the client makes a statement with the intention of committing or covering up a crime or fraud.

Think of it this way, you can't make your attorney an accessory or co-conspirator to a new crime or illegal act.


[1 Points] Nano-Bunny:

I am posting a shitty comment, specifically because of the final sentence.


[1 Points] Odd_From_Every_Angle:

Here's the way I see it. And anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong, since I don't know this by experience, but it seems logical to me and therefore should be taken with a grain of salt and not considered as legal advice in any way, shape or form:

First... it's important to understand that criminal cases take a while to get behind a judge. Short notice for a lawyer is you making first contact about a case that's about to go to court very soon. They need time to work and get their defense ready.

Now, what you should first worry about is the ability to get a lawyer in between you and your potential LEO adversaries. Any decent lawyer doesn't need to prep to know how to shield you from fucking yourself with your own words at the worst moment possible: After arrest. You can go over details with your lawyer after that critical first step has been made, and he or she will be able to give you better advice from there.

So, with that in mind, what should your "now" priority be, assuming you feel it necessary?

  1. Do research and seek out lawyer contacts that you can create a contact list with. You first want to know who you can call if you end up in a jam and also have fail-over options. With that in mind, your research should consist of actually calling firms and asking about their policies and what kind of staff they have on hand for cold callers looking for counsel. Unless you can afford it, you don't want to retain counsel if you're reasonably sure that your risk levels don't warrant the expense or you simply can't afford to.

  2. From that list, do research further into the specific firms and potential lawyers that would take your call. If you can get recommendations from others and skip that, great, but I'd still research. You do this until you have a shortlist of a few sure options that you're confident will respond to an emergency of your generally particular nature. (I use that dichotomy to underscore the idea that you're not telling them all your dirty secrets until it actually matters, but you're reasonably sure that they wouldn't object to handling such a case. You may find this through research or simply by asking them hypothetical questions. Otherwise you can rely on that one generalization you always see play out in movies, however successful that may be.)

  3. Memorize your shortlist of contacts and be ready to call on them when needed.

If you've completed those steps, you're not inherently protected, but you have a plan that might actually afford you a route away from accidentally easing down onto a sandpaper-wrapped dildo attached to an industrial-strength two-stroke piston engine running on jet fuel.

After that, you use the lawyer's expertise that saved your anus to also advise you on what you need to divulge. Defense attorneys are not simultaneously prosecutors. They're using what they know about law to make money off your lack of that knowledge. I won't make assumptions about moral choices that may or may not be involved, but there's a pretty good chance that if you hire a criminal defense lawyer, he's not going to have qualms about--at the very least--letting you know whether it's skookum or not to give him data relevant to the case...


[1 Points] realmallady:

Your already behind the ball if you haven't shopped around and retained an attorney you can trust. I deal in the US, not sure how the laws and practices are different.

toss-1 is right!! You should be preparing yourself during good times for the bad times, at least you stacked some money but really go have consultations now, dont get into details until you find someone you can trust.

without doxing myself... I have caught 2 FED cases, trial on both (not DNM related) beat one at trial, convicted on the other, on appeal my attorney overturned a huge part of my case and I got back about 60%of my time!!! Lawyers are a good thing to drop money on and you dont need only 1, if you see your lawyer is not doing something dont be afraid to get someone else involved to pick up the slack. Before indictment its always best to have a CRIMINAL attorney vs. a criminal defense attorney, this is the guy you can tell whats really going on and you want dealing with any law enforcement and investigators. I bought a house in a rural town a few years ago and ended up using this attorney to file restraining orders and harrasment against petty local pigs who profiled and harrassed, it was super tough to do and we eventually lost but they stopped sitting outside my house and pulling me and my wife over. Once your indicted your ciminal attorney CAN handle pretrial but its better to get someone known to the DA and/or judge. For trial use your judgement. No Attorney will EVER get mad if you bring in co-councel, that said breaking up with an attorney should be approached lightly. Litigation is a different story. I'm not sure what "preemptive use" you are considering but when you are being harrased and or surveillanced you can have your criminal attorney use the PI to dig around (I dont recomend filing against the cops unless its frivolous), have a convo with someone in the DA's office but if you feel somethings coming its better to be prepared. And don't stress ANYTHING it doesn't help to fall apart, think of all this as as much a part of business as anything. Be prepared, confident and organized.


[1 Points] _paralyzed_:

Never tell anyone your dirty secrets, even a lawyer. all you have to say is you feel the need to have one on retainer.

But you don't need to do that. You're being paranoid. Just chill for now.

I highly doubt any customers will see any legal action. Maybe put on a watchlist, but I doubt that too.


[1 Points] coffeencreme:

Erm....I wouldn't. Clean house and get rid of anything questionable, and see where it goes from there.

As others have said, unless you have been ordering kilos and kilos it's unlikely anything is going to happen. I'd probably memorise the number of a replutable lawyer in case I needed one, but I'd hold off from putting one on retainer for now.


[0 Points] ChicagoDrillinois:

dont tell anine shit till they arrest u