Why does everyone seem to dislike NBOMes on here?

I've used them quite a few times with plenty of time between doses and have always had a fun time. Can I get some light shed on the general dislike for them on this forum?

From what I understand as long as you don't have heart problems or some other similar cardiovascular disease you should be golden, and aside from the crummy taste aren't very different from some good ole fashioned L.

I just ordered a year supply for myself from T5 a little while ago, but all the negativity here is making me feel like I'm missing something health wise.

Is it just because asshats on the streets like to pass them off as Lucy, or is there some dark side to them I haven't encountered (yet)?


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[32 Points] CareerDrugUser:

Unlike LSD, they are very deadly if you take just a few more tabs than normal, yet they are still masqueraded as LSD, which could be potentially deadly. That is one reason for the hate. Scumbags will be scumbags and when you can buy something for 50 cents a tab and sell it for $20 a tab it is going to attract alot of scumbags.

On top of that, and the real reason why I hate Nbomes, is that they produce permanent down-regulation of your 5-ht2a receptors. Basically, what that means is that if you do alot of nbomes, after awhile the receptors in your brain that are responsible for the visual psychedelic effects will be so "worn out" that you won't get very much visual activity at all when doing any psychedelic drug, not just nbomes, but LSD, shrooms, DMT, etc. will all be diminished in effect if you do alot of nbome. This down-regulation can last for months or years and possibly could be permanent in some people.

Plain and simple, Nbomes are not safe. There is very little scientific or anecdotal evidence surrounding them unlike other more popular drugs. They are constantly masqueraded as LSD by scumbags looking to make bigger profit margins at the expense of other's health and enjoyment. The trip itself is also very intense for most people compared to LSD and other psychedelics and, while visually intense, lacks many of the other aspects of psychedelic drugs such as a deep and profound head space. All around, I prefer to avoid them altogether and just do better, more enjoyable drugs, like LSD or other ergoline psychedelics like AL-LAD or LSZ


[28 Points] wasmynameagain:

I think it's more so people being sold NBOes as LSD, so they feel ripped off and potentially have a bad experience. My two cents.


[14 Points] Kroovistos:

For me, 25I took you high, "up there" to a new level of perception, but it didn't hold your hand through it. When I take tryptamines I feel like they guide me. 25I was impersonal and cold.


[11 Points] barleywino:

You are misinformed- People with no preexisting or underlying conditions have died and had other serious complications from single <1mg tabs. No other psychedelic save maybe bromo-dragonfly have been anywhere near as unpredictable as the NBOMe family.


[11 Points] None:

I don't like them because there are much better drugs available.


[5 Points] drugfreekid:

No offense, I realize our tastes in drugs vary but NBOMes are fucking terrible. They look super cool on paper but they are shit. They have at least 20 pharmacological deaths and do not have enough/many unique properties that would make them worthwhile in my opinion. I think they are fucking disgusting and have no purpose whatsoever that none of the Classical or other RC psychedelics cannot produce. Yes, the are legal in manyduristinctions but that does not make them good psychedelics. I referrer to al NBOMES as rat poison. I would rather stay sober then dose those vile compounds. I have also noticed that the people vouching for NBOMES are people who have not taken enough/substantial amounts of Classical Psychedelics to see the inferiority of NBOMES. My mindset could a reference to this subeddits dislike for NBOMES:


[3 Points] Intothekhole:

I like them when I know I'm about to take one. Not when it's sold to me as lsd. I also don't like the body load but I really enjoy the visuals. Most people on this sub clearly have access to better drugs (lsd for example) and would rather take something safer and more enjoyable


[2 Points] None:

I've been trying to think of something more clever to say besides "No, it's not LSD..." but I'm still working on it. So far all I can come up with is "No, it's not LSD, but it's cheaper". Most of the other problems I've encountered and vigilantly tend to avoid is the OD ranges. Thus, I dose mine at around 250-325ug. Helps one achieve the higher realm from a complete sober 0 a lot easier IME. Of course these are complexed as well. If that really matters. But it's kinda like price control in a macro market...keep the weight low and start with one, drop two after a couple more hours. Has a nice kick; makes me possible to climb up to the 2 mg range and beyond I think. Hated 25I though. Haven't tried lower doses with it, only have good experience with B; haven't even tried C either or any of the other ones (nboh, nbf). 25B is surprisingly marvelous. One would think it might have the potential to do what it's big brother 2cb does and when you climb the dosage up the right way, you can get some of that which is nice. Makes me really want to thoroughly try C out but a vendor that does reasonably prices single grams (and will respond to my questions) is lacking ATM. I totally see these as extremely dangerous when put in the wrong hands. More than half the people I talk to about nBomes say I lay mine way too weak. But from the reactions I've seen from actual cases and supposed sispicions of how subject(s) may act made since as to the dosage/hit. I don't think .5mg is too much though to be honest; at least try to get close to that much, give or take. But without knowledge of any others, some could vary. Kind of like how the 2c's varied in dosage. I concur, be just as much careful and even more so with these, compared to their 2c 'Big Brothers'; however I'm pleased with what I've found so far and want to try 25c and 25e.


[1 Points] Profesco:

I've done 25i, and 25c more than 20 or so times. I had to be careful to not take more than a full tab, I was extremely sensitive. Music made me want to puke. I felt way over sensitive and water tasted like aluminum. The only reason we had it was because we were poor teenagers. LSD is way cleaner in comparison and I'll probably never go back to nBOMEs.


[1 Points] Shroomgawd:

I feel as if everyone dislikes them because why buy nbome when you can get lsd?


[1 Points] im_not_snoopdogg:

did nBOME once and had a blast. Trip-sitted a friend on nBOME and it was the opposite of a blast. Essentially ruined his life. Never touched the stuff again


[1 Points] None:

The fact alot of people purchase nBomes, sell it as LSD, potentially killing people/Making them have side effects that shouldn't have happen if they took regular LSD.


[1 Points] druggieslut:

if you get nbomes and think its lsd, and decide to do a heroic dose like eating a 10 strip, that could potentially be a quite dangerous dose of nbome, whereas it would just be the most bizarre night of your life on LSD...

nbomes have their active dose a lot closer to their dangerous dose than LSD.


[1 Points] None:

Nbomes fucking suck body load wise taste even the trip is just like bland pretty visuals at the most when ur not uncomfortable my favorite was 25i But after tons of Lsd dmt mushies nbomes give me headaches the next day evil thoughts Can't even touch a beer Won't be able to sleep that night my head pounds so bad Continuously becoming more conscious comes at a price brain changes mentally and physically


[1 Points] nomorethrowawayhoe:

i took 25i nbome quite often for a few months a few years ago. i've never been the same. if the devil was real and he had a drug it would be 25i. Also causes severe vasoconstriction, and lots of people have just straight up died on relatively low doses. Also, me and other friend s who took it a few times, can no longer roll on mdma. Food for thought. theres so many better drugs imho, i stay with the classic psyches and the 2c-x fam. Some RC tryptamines too. And weed. lots of weed. i love. weed.


[0 Points] kkkkkkggggggyugygygy:

fake ass trip with the potential for easy overdose and god knows what else coming out of some sketchy lead-covered chink factory.


[-2 Points] Coradam:

I've ordered around 500-1000 25i tabs total in the past 2 year. I tell everyone that they are research chemicals, cheaper and not as good as lsd, and taste like shit. But I still have tons of people who love them. Maybe because I sell them for $1 a piece haha.

I just don't understand why people think they're so bad. I've personally taken 10 in one night with 3 of my friends who did the same. And we just trip the fuck out. Last summer i started with 45 tabs between 4 of us and we finished them. We woke up that morning around 11am on the beach in winter clothes. None of us had any idea what happened. No one died though.


[-2 Points] truballer23:

NBOM has a much higher ld50 than LSD. There have been several deaths due to overdose, but from my experience as long as you aren't taking more than 2-3 at a time you should be fine.