[CommunityDiscussion] Want half priced drugs? Just claim the package was empty!

You might have seen the post a while back claiming I sent them an empty box. Well it turns out that all you need to do to get HALF PRICED DRUGS (!!!) is just claim you didn't get anything in your order. Who would have known!

The vendors extensive feedback (and having tracking) doesn't even matter, the admins will just split the disputed money. What a wonderful day for the consumer.

Go get your cheap drugs everyone until Agora changes this fucking ridiculous policy. (please don't actually do this)

And how exactly do you stop someone from doing this one time each to a dozen different vendors on different accounts? You can just order a few really cheap digital products and boost your stats in about a day for a fraction of a coin. The Agora admins can't see the customer address unless the customer doesn't use PGP. Imagine if this was a pound of weed or another bulk order.

This is a serious scam loophole that I thought needed attention from the community. A single claim of this should never warrant a partial refund. Multiple reports? By all means, look into it a bit. But a single claim getting a partial refund means a single actor can successfully scam multiple vendors.

Proof:

http://i.imgur.com/C6JFGVo.png


Comments


[76 Points] LOLROFLSWAGYOLO:

why would anyone try to wrongly fuck over a vendor WHO HAS THEIR INFORMATION. God dammit people are stupid.

EDIT: they're->their


[16 Points] bape1:

You looked at them


[17 Points] Suck_a_gerbils_dick:

Its like the amazon scam of dnms, how perfect. /s


[13 Points] natenorman:

I'm very sorry colorado, I know things have been a little hard for you these past 30 days espically on here. I wish the DNM community understood that scamming vendors only creates higher priced products for us in the long run. It's simple economics, loss prevention creates higher prices. I hope things settle down.


[7 Points] throwawayqqq710:

oof thats rough.. good to know atleast agora support will be on the side of the buyers so thats a positive for me i guess haha


[10 Points] None:

Goddamn, Colorado is a great fucking vendor and then someone pulls this shit? Vendors already have reason enough to leave the markets.


[8 Points] octomarvel:

That sux dude. Dunno why people soil the whole community. Just coz we're "criminals" doesn't mean we can't be honest now.

No honour amongst thieves.


[7 Points] None:

Alright Colorado I'll drop by an order in a sec. Can't wait for free drugs <3 cheers Agora (lmao)


[5 Points] SecondChanceUsername:

Well, at least you can post in the vendor round table not to trust that drop address &/or alias the order was made from ever again. And thats why vendors should require users with 0 transactions to FE. So people will want to keep their account, and make sure vendors are willing to sell to them. Once upon a time, the vendors round table had a black list of users they didn't trust for all other vendors to peruse and think twice before working with them.


[5 Points] sapiophile:

The obvious solution is to open all DNM packages on video with trusted, neutral witnesses present - police officers and judges/magistrates make excellent witnesses for contested events.

Vendors simply refuse to ship anywhere except "customer's name c/o police station blah blah blah", and buyers simply ask the friendly local constible for their assistance in witnessing the package opening.


[4 Points] skinheadcommunist420:

WHY would you fuck over a vendor who gives you what you want in the first place?


[5 Points] None:

You are getting fucked around a lot these days. I'm sorry, man.

"Buyer what say you?" -> "I HAVE BEEN WRONGED!" -> gives over $100 to buyer

I'm sure you were seething like a MF when you read that lol.

I'll come to you for my next shipment.

Cheers and have a great week.


[3 Points] Aluxh:

What was the value of the order? This kinda stuff happens on legit markets too, eBay etc. for a small order really it's easier just to accept it to keep the peace, as much as it sucks.


[2 Points] None:

Thats fucked up dude


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] VNDRRVWTHRWAWY:

lol. Why would agora support do this?

Why would someone go through this when weed on the DNM is already extremely cheap....????


[1 Points] dnmtoro:

Any plans (esp now w/ this dispute) to open up on another market?


[1 Points] damnmachine:

Seems like this kind of shit would only motivate vendors to go 100% FE, thus screwing over honest buyers in the long run. This is why we can't have nice things! Always gonna be somebody ruining it for everyone else...


[1 Points] Zoominsquad:

damn thats fucked. ur a good lad colorado, cheap customers are assholes. u do this to amazon, not private sellers


[1 Points] ThrowThatAwayAT:

sry CO..

I know this has you down. you were always good to me, and once I was not even aware my order was only received in 1/2 and you had already sent the other pkg and once it arrived, though unexpected, you cleared things by informing me you had noticed you had only included 1/2 of my order instead of what I initially had requested, but I had no time to complain because 1- product was so good 2 - to the eye looked like what I had ordered 3 - i was none the wiser and too stoned off CO Earwax to care.. so you went ahead and shipped it out to me, and since every thing Ive gotten has arrived quickly and overweight!

hope this awareness keeps this from happening to you again.

much love


[1 Points] DnmAvenger:

Start weighing your packages and put that on the shipping label? Not sure if OPSEC allows for this, but that would do it. Well they couldn't say it was empty. Who was the buyer? It had to be someone with quite a few buys under their belt to get over on you like that. You need to let other vendors know what they did.


[1 Points] None:

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[0 Points] None:

Wouldn't it be like really really funny if colorado actually had an influx of buyers and everyone made the same claim though?


[0 Points] None:

Operating with zero integrity like that will ruin the darknet markets for everybody.


[0 Points] wotnothrowaway:

Wot - Tragedy of the commons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons


[0 Points] procowtipper:

Somebody read too many Amazon refund posts. What in the actual fuck.


[0 Points] None:

Nah I'd rather go for a free sample. Even cheaper than half priced and it's more legitimately procured.


[0 Points] Aluminum_Foil_Hat:

Dear colorado,:)

I am upset that my package was empty, I never did order from you, but I had planned to order... I transferred my coin to agora and then you were on vacation. Vacation? Its the week before 4/20! What are you sitting down in your recliner feet up smoking a fatty of the bud I should of got. So my coins sat there as I smashed f5(I always press f5 when I try to type it out) Harder then HOS to get a hold of!!! Now agora admins want to go on vacation too. Probably sitting there smoking some of my fucking bud, too stoned to realize agora is down. A week!!! You can't put the site up for a fucking hour?

Who is going to reimburse me? I want compensation for my pain and suffering! How do I dispute an order I never placed?
:) Dont let it get you down, keep on truckin.

FirstWorldProblems


[0 Points] noonehear:

Mine was missing 2/3rds or product. Luckily Chroncentrates realized his muck up and is rectifying. Also his CO2 wax is very nice! I'd post a review but have had to many downvotes and thus cant create a new topic. Guess I need a new username.


[0 Points] AcctNo:

Damn, /u/_Colorado_

You have some fucked up replies to this thread. It sucks that you are a good vendor and getting shit on. And shitty vendors commonly get loved on like they are gods.


[0 Points] OptionalAccountant:

I felt really bad that one time I ordered an O, didn't get it for a week and a half, was granted a reship, then got my original ounce the next day. I hate that it happened, but I couldn't afford to buy another and obviously couldn't send it back...


[0 Points] yeahthoughtso222:

Everyones ok with this subreddit pandering to thieves by listing markets that do, until of course the thieves try to steal from them lol, bunch of losers you all are.

Colorado, put it in your profile that all sales are final and you are not responsible for missing, damaged, or otherwise tampered orders. If they really did receive a empty box this could be LE removing their shit because they are being watched. You as a vendor have no control over how sketchy the situation is that the person is sending a package into. Also include some clause allowing you to remove negative feedback as blowback, vendor policy trumps buyers rights, at least on agora.


[0 Points] TheRealRocketship:

The problem here is, you didn't fight hard enough for your money. I would have written at least a paragraph


[0 Points] huzibizi:

It works both ways, mate


[0 Points] Kazaa99:

Yet another fine example of why vendors shouldn't trust buyers who claims nothing arrives. Man I'm glad I'm not a seller with so many scamming buyers. I'm now confident that there are more scamming buyers than vendors.


[-1 Points] temporaryaccount420:

Hello, I have not ordered any drugs from you but an empty box arrived in my mailbox. Can I receive .45 BTC now please?


[-1 Points] Aorus_:

So we're social engineering the darknets now? Classy....


[-2 Points] None:

Don't let this discourage you man.. i dont use the markets.. but I'm about to just so i can buy an oz from you and FE.. you deserve it


[-2 Points] LittleNiggerBaby4:

And so you think it is a good idea to advertise this? It is pretty easy to scam vendors, but the best course of action for a vendor who just learned this the hard way is to stfu lol and don't let people know they can scam you. Also the trim job on that triple A Blueberry was shitty m80085, i guess you have to order quadruple A if you don't want a bag of trim


[-4 Points] None:

Next day you get raided since you pissed off the vendor


[-5 Points] Drogka:

What the hell dude? We're all in this together. Quit trying to be a little fuck boy.


[-3 Points] WTFCOLORDO:

That's nothing- I ordered drugs from a guy, he guaranteed delivery, accepted the order, then canceled it and acted like I was the problem. Fortunately, the universe tends to take care of things like that.


[-6 Points] meth_head_mike32:

If you stopped sending empty boxes maybe this wouldn't be a problem, faggot.


[-9 Points] KarmaKunt250:

Wow, you feel like you got mistreated and you jump on Reddit whining and complaining.

As one of the "five percent" of people you fucked for 4/20 (not giving it for free is fine, but ATTACKING anyone who was upset was bullshit), I'm glad your finding out it sucks to have someone not give a shit about you. It's karma, you cunt.