Should we bring this to market or not?

We would like the communities opinion on something we have created we call Psilly Bears

These are gummy bears handmade by us that contain a very unique combination of RC's and mushroom extract.

1 gummy bear = roughly 3.5grams (1/8th) of whole mushrooms so will retail for $20-35 depending on where you live and demand.

Even we can tell no difference in effect between our whole mushrooms and our new product. These are mainly geared and priced for resell so it is up to you to inform your customers that there are indeed a small amount of RC's in them but they are prodrugs and are converted in the body to psilocin. We are also looking at a way of using acid hydrolysis to deacetylize 4-aco into 4-ho-dmt (pure psilocin)

Imagine riding around town with an innocent bag of unopened gummy bears and being pulled over, no sweat. We will do several small packages to let the community sample and give feedback if anything needs adjusting but we think they're spot on.

Cannabis has it's wax, BHO, butter, edibles, e-cigs, etc and it is well time that we move mushrooms into the future as well. Tinctures are fine and our hat is off to Trip with his vials but they are not priced for and have very little resell value.

We won't discuss prices here, this isn't what this post is for.

Surely if the "bartards" can run around selling 10k packs of untested counterfeit pills we can spread a good chemical for once.

Is this something we should bring to market our not?

EDIT: Thank you all for your comments, questions, concerns, insults, smartassery, encouragements, and anything else we missed. It was very informative and we will try our best to move forward at least on a small scale so we can send out some FREE samples and see what the community thinks of them. That's likely going to do it for us for the night. We must sleep if we're to be any good at our walmart greeter job tomorrow.


Comments


[86 Points] powerman15:

No fuckin way in hell would I ever pay for something with "very unique combination of RC's" in it. If I want random drugs in my drugs I buy xanax.


[18 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

I think you've got a really good idea.

Is the "mushroom extract" there for symbolic reasons? Or flavor? Or does it contribute a lot to the effect?

I'm sure it would be a lot easier in the production process to leave it out, as the tryptamines in mushrooms don't like being outside of a mushroom in air or liquid. Or like heat much.

the RC tryptamines are very close in effect to psilocybin / psilocyn, whereas phenethylamine hallucinogens are all wildly different. And mushrooms don't taste very nice.

I can tell you are going to be successful with this idea because of your honest manner of writing.

good luck


[15 Points] None:

How are extracting the psilocybin? What RCs are you thinking of putting in there? Have you done any experimentation to test different dosages? Are you good enough at math and chemistry to not fuck up your concentrations of RCs and accidentally poison someone? I don't think having to do chem procedures on RCs to get your final product that is MIXED with the extract is going to be cost effective unless it just really significantly enhances the trip. But breaking into the market with a new product like that is going to have its own set of challenges. You are probably better off just doing a bulk extraction of either cakes or mushrooms with boiling methanol then strain and precip and rextal with ethanol. anhydrous methanol will yield higher than ethanol, if you make a solution 10% chloroform 90% methanol and boil your substrate in there for an hour you should yield the vast majority of the psychoactive alkaloids. Cakes yield pretty good too I once got about an ounce of crude extract from a about 2 pounds of BRF cake using only ethanol. Extract can easily be placed in a variety of mediums. But how would you compete with trips with science who already does this? Establishing youself as a new vendor takes time and you better make damn sure your opsec is pro as fuck both online and in real life. Someone I knew jumped into vending dmt too quickly and he made some opsec mistakes and someone in the competition doxxed him. I would say your best bet is to make your product and then sell it to an already established vendor. If you're in it for the long haul don't sell to anyone in real life and don't try and be a vendor. Just do supply if you already have access to enough shrooms to make a shitload of product.


[5 Points] themysterymandan:

As a small time buyer, what you're offering sounds fantastic. Too bad you plan on selling in bulk. I strongly believe they'll sell well.

I've always been a strong believer in the notion of "Sui Generis," they're unique and if they are of good quality your sales will show that.


[6 Points] vousplaitee:

An equivalent of 3.5 grams of mushrooms is a bit high for one little gummy. Cannabis edibles had in issue in the legal states where they were too strong with a lack of warning and newbies would overindulge and get totally out of their minds and incapacitated. One dude in Colorado jumped out of a building freaking out on cookies. 3.5 grams is no joke, especially for lightweights, and for the majority of newer users that requires a trip sitter around. Just eating two of them and you're past heroic territory. To make it more accessible for the general user and newbie and not scare those who are not prepared for 3.5 grams, 2 grams is a good starting point at a lower cost. A 2-gram gummie is giggly, fun, social and gives newbies a taste of the experience before going to 1.5 or 2 gummies (3-4 grams).


[6 Points] ProveNW:

If you had three yellow bears and two blue bears and then proceeded to eat three bears at random, what are the chances that the two blue bears are still around?


[2 Points] Bud509:

So these contain psilocybin extract as well as 4-ACO-DMT or what RC are you referring to? I think this is a great idea but I want to know exactly what I'm taking and what dosage I'm taking. If these will truly be priced for resale then I want to try a sample as soon as possible, so please post when you get set up on a market. I know something like this will be extremely popular with everyone I know.


[2 Points] None:

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[2 Points] None:

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[1 Points] None:

Yes they'll sell, edibles are popular as it is and anything that allows people to carry them in public will always be a hit.


[1 Points] None:

Your price seems high. Trip is $19.95 for whatever amount it is. Maybe a gram a bear. 5 bears $25.

Does sound fun and interesting. All ears...


[1 Points] shemalesuprise:

Sounds good on paper, but in reality this is probably some 15 year old wanting to sell 4-aco-dmt gummies.


[1 Points] noonehear:

You do know if you know the right vendors you can grab ounces of quality fungi for ~$100 an ounce... aka ~$12.50 per 1/8th. Seeing as how this is a mixture of psilocybin and RC's I wouldn't pay more than $10 per dose at max... and even then I would just go with TripWithScience's tried and true "psilocybin" concoction before yours.


[1 Points] altecMI:

I think people should do mixing on their own but fuck me for not thinking of that


[1 Points] None:

Mushrooms are perfectly fine the way they are man. Thats like melting ice cream down and refreezing them to make ice cream ice cubes or something


[1 Points] calculator174:

BRING EM ON


[1 Points] skytrainwand:

What kinds of RC's are in these psilly bears? You still haven't answered that question. Are they listed in TIHKAL or PIHKAL?


[1 Points] samwhiskey:

Mushrooms are what is wanted in my area above all else but the bulk and price point is never there for me. These might be something people want. I'd like to try them for myself because I love psychedelics and haven't had shrooms since mushbud was in diapers.


[1 Points] aboutthednm:

What RC? This concerns me greatly.


[1 Points] None:

Can you boof them?


[1 Points] Peter_of_RS:

Send a sample my way :)


[1 Points] bucketandsoap:

I think you are crazy to mix rc's and someone will get hurt. Are you stupid?


[1 Points] Smokienjayman:

Sounds like a pretty neat product


[1 Points] DHLMarket:

I think that if you're wanting to take mushrooms, anything but eating whole mushrooms is doing it wrong. Eating the mushroom is a part of the experience. Eating a gummy bear is not an experience.

Unrelated but I just wanted to point this out:

We won't discuss prices here, this isn't what this post is for.

Earlier in this post:

...will retail for $20-35...


[1 Points] None:

A really cool and interesting idea, I'm sure there's a market for something like this. (or at least, something very similar)

I bet that it's a lot easier to sell these gummy bears than a couple g's of icky tasting mushrooms on the street.

Personally, I don't see myself buying this (mainly because I'm too poor for this), but I encourage than you explore this idea even further.

Stealth would be no problem with this method, I guess


[1 Points] None:

Sounds cool but I can trip balls on a 7 dollar tab of acid, 2 if I buy a sheet from tguk.


[0 Points] recycleaway6565:

As far as the psilocybin gummy bears for I say go for it. Personally, I'd certainly buy them for twenty each