Ganeshuk (Alphabay) - The story of how he scammed me, and some links to other posts of buyers who were also scammed.

Update on my personal situation - Ganesh has now sent a 50% refund.

This seems like the best resolution I can hope for, and as per my part of the agreement I won't be back on these forums. Thanks everyone for your input and help, and I hope my story has taught others to be very cautious when buying from ANY VENDOR without escrow. Learn from my mistakes - losing money fucking sucks, whether it's $10 or $10k, and if it's a vendor with a big turnover it's apparent that the stronger your case is, the less likely the admins are to help you as punishing that vendor is hitting themselves in the pocket.

-Shmaldo

Original post below:

So I posted a week or so ago about my experience with ganeshuk, but didn't really include the full story and assumed that readers were up to date with my current situation. I've since completely given up any resolution with him and turned to the mods, but have been completely ignored by them both on the market and the forum, so I guess it's a good time to just expose him as much as I possibly can in the hope that nobody else will get scammed as badly as I did. Below is pasted what I posted on the alphabay forums, with my story along with some links to others.

Thought it would be a great place to post a summary of all the unresolved scammer reports relating to ganeshuk, along with the story of how he scammed me for $10,500 AU.

First of all, my story:

My usual supplier of MDMA had gone out of business, and I was looking for a new supplier for large bulk. Ganeshuk came up - from the UK (not a 'high risk' country), good feedback - worth a try I thought.

I contacted ganeshuk initially asking him how bulk to Australia usually went and if he'd had any problems. I was told "we've shipped literally kilos and kilos to Australia with no problem"

I ordered a few smaller packages to test quality, then a few larger ones with no problems - all up I'd made about 6 orders of both cocaine and MDMA, all had come through in good time.

I then ordered 500g MDMA and 2.5oz cocaine through Ganeshuk to the same drop. Neither package ever arrived, and I was told along the lines of "too bad, customs got it, you get nothing back now" (Yes, he was that much of a dick about it).

I had the drop address cleaned preparing for a knock at the door, but 30+ days pass and nothing. I became suspicious, and ordered 1g of MDMA from a domestic vendor to see if the address had been watched and profiled. Package arrived the next day.

This seemed strange, as if customs had siezed a large commercial quantity of MDMA and/or cocaine, there would either be a knock at the door, a watch on the mail to that address, or a boot through the door. I then tried 1g MDMA from the USA to check international mail. It arrived in just over a week. I then tried 1g cocaine from the UK - arrived in exactly 2 weeks - the normal time for UK-->AUS. To this day I've recieved over 12kg to that address with zero siezed packages. All through this process Ganesh has basically told me to fuck off and stop talking to/about him, and wanted no part of a resolution until I started pointing out his scams on these forums and on Reddit.

He then decided to negotiate as I was bringing his lies/scams into the light and offered me 40% refund on my order to post on the forums and reddit and say that I was happy and we'd resolved the matter - I told him there's no way I'm telling anyone I'm "happy" with him keeping more than half of my money and sending nothing. I told him, as I'm now buying again from off-market that if he gives half my money back, he can have the login to my forum/reddit accounts and post whatever he wanted. He agreed, I gave him the account details, he changed the passwords, updated the threads on reddit to say "resolved - package arrived" and ignored me, never sending the 50% agreed upon.

I started questioning him on the forums (about a month later, giving him plenty of time), and he started accusing me of being a scammer and making everything up to slander his name, blackmail him and sell him the accounts. Luckily for me, you can't edit posts on these forums and he's acknowledged that the transaction did indeed take place, otherwise I'm sure he'd be lying about that too.

Now, for his feedback scam:

This one's pretty common knowledge, but his feedback is kept up thanks to, in the case of ANY order not arriving, the conditions of recieving MAX 50% of your money back (whether it was siezed, miss-addressed, horrible quality or just never sent at all) is that you MUST leave a positive feedback. This means that the only people that will leave anything other than positive are those willing to forfeit ALL of their money - the smaller orders. For a vendor with such fantastic stealth, why would he feel the need to fabricate his feedback? Easy - because when he scams a bulk buyer for thousands of dollars, he keeps half that money and still gets a positive! There's absolutely no way to know what percentage of his "positive" feedbacks are genuinely happy buyers, and which ones have been blackmailed into leaving positive, to recover any percentage of their money.

A quick summary of the unresolved posts on this forum: It's worth noting that searching for Ganeshuk gives 168 hits in the "scammer" forum

"GANESHUK SCAMMED ME" - [URL]http://sszoxp4dqmt24jng.onion/forum/index.php?threads/ganeshuk-scammed-me.111156/[/URL] This one looks like he's paid the buyer off to stop posting and had him marked a "scammer" - he ignored the buyer until the 30 days was up and then asked for an order number once it would have expired. He claims this guy is a "proven scammer" but all his threads are still marked unresolved, indicating a very loose use of the word "proven"

"ganeshuk £4000 order un-delivered" - [URL]http://sszoxp4dqmt24jng.onion/forum/index.php?threads/ganeshuk-%C2%A34000-order-un-delivered.110868/#post-978328[/URL][B][/B] This one has actually been marked resolved, but is a perfect example of his feedback scam, and also where he can be quoted as saying "i wouldnt send a 3grand order without tracking anyway" (note that my order, which was supposed to be sent a week or so after this message, was 10.5k and I was refused tracking.) But, the most interesting part of this order is that it was a domestic order of 750 pills and 250g of ketamine which never showed, and then ganeshuk couldn't produce a tracking number after saying it would be posted with tracking. He then offered the buyer a 25% refund! This is about as clear scamming as you can get. Definitely worth reading as you can see how ganesh replies (or fails to) to his customers when they call him out

"need help from an admin (ganeshuk)" - [URL]http://sszoxp4dqmt24jng.onion/forum/index.php?threads/need-help-from-a-admin-ganeshuk.111094/[/URL] Another obvious case of an order not arriving, ganeshuk ignoring the buyer until it comes to making a thread on the forums, then giving him only half of his money back. A simple one, but also shows his attitude to ignore buyers for as long as possible after a scam.

"Ganeshuk 250g Ketamine $3,313 SCAM" - [URL]http://sszoxp4dqmt24jng.onion/forum/index.php?threads/ganeshuk-250g-ketamine-3-313-scam.95722/#post-844090[/URL] Over $3K of Ketamine, domestic again not arrived, and, dispite previously saying he'd never send a 3k order untracked, it appears he's done exactly that once again. Or rather, up to his usual tricks and scammed this guy out of $3313, (or maybe he's payed the 50% again to keep himself looking good as the buyer stopped replying fairly quickly)

"Ganeshuk Scammed £1500 LSD tabs" - [URL]http://sszoxp4dqmt24jng.onion/forum/index.php?threads/ganeshuk-scammed-%C2%A31500-lsd-tabs.110009/[/URL] This one it looks like ganeshuk has sent a 50% reship as is his maximum, dispite it being for 910 LSD tabs, DOMESTICALLY AGAIN! I've NEVER had LSD siezed - it's fucking paper and can't be smelled! How can you fuck that up, especially domestic where there's NO CUSTOMS!

"Ganeshuk's fake and misleading feedback by blackmail" - [URL]http://sszoxp4dqmt24jng.onion/forum/index.php?threads/ganeshuks-fake-and-misleading-feedback-by-blackmail.112727/#post-1091568[/URL] This one is just what it says - more people being sucked in to buying off him for his "fantastic feedback"

"Headsup/FUD of the day. GaneshUK Exit Scam on the way?" - [URL]http://sszoxp4dqmt24jng.onion/forum/index.php?threads/headsup-fud-of-the-day-ganeshuk-exit-scam-on-the-way.84699/page-3[/URL][B][/B] Worth a read - lots of links to people who have ordered from both Vendeep (now banned, confirmed scammer) and ganeshuk saying his "stealth" is identical, as is the way he speaks to and ignores customers. Endubsareback was scammed then mysteriously went quiet (50% refund! woo-hoo!), waqize13 was also offered a 50% refund on his non-arrival. Looks like a bunch more in this thread that were paid to keep quiet (if they were "proven scammers" as ganeshuk likes to throw people off with, there's been no proof of that anywhere else so strange that they'd stop replying right then and there.)

"Ganeshuk scammed me for a big order Beware" - [URL]http://sszoxp4dqmt24jng.onion/forum/index.php?threads/ganeshuk-scammed-me-for-a-big-order-beware.112282/page-3#post-1098481[/URL][B][/B] xp6996 ordered 5k worth of product, Domestic again which never arrived. He was then given a 40% refund. How does someone fuck up so many domestic orders where there's no customs? All seem to be bulk, too!

"Ganeshuk Selective Scammer stole over $10,000 this time" -http://sszoxp4dqmt24jng.onion/forum/index.php?threads/ganeshuk-selective-scammer-stole-over-10-000-this-time.111647/page-2#post-1098508 This is my thread, there's even more people in here commenting, claiming to also have been scammed.

"GaneshUk - selective scammer?"- [URL]http://sszoxp4dqmt24jng.onion/forum/index.php?threads/ganeshuk-selective-scammer.91316/#post-1098546[/URL] This user made a purchase (1k+), nothing arrived, and was given a "partial refund" - al3xm1 also had an order not arrive (domestic) and was given a partial reship to shut him up. Funny how this one was reshipped 7 days after the original was supposed to be sent, which is strange because all correspondance I've had/seen with him tells people to not message him until it's been 19 days+. Maybe this was ganesh's first legitimately lost package?

Scammer Vendeep is back! GaneshUK is exitscamming - [URL]http://sszoxp4dqmt24jng.onion/forum/index.php?threads/scammer-vendeep-is-back-ganeshuk-is-exitscamming.80115/[/URL] Another user claiming Ganeshuk to be Vendeep. This buyer seems to have recieved a full refund - a total of $30! Also worth noting is this quote from ganeshuk's reply - "Your "missing" orders have been refunded, you were clearly in need of that 30 quid so close to the end of the month

next time try and use more than 3 brain cells before posting your FUD you silly gypsy" So be warned, if you DO want your money back after package not arriving, you're worthy of ridicule on the forum for caring about it.

"Scammer ganeshuk" -[URL]http://sszoxp4dqmt24jng.onion/forum/index.php?threads/scammer-ganeshuk.81510/[/URL] Quite a simple one - buyer didn't recieve, ganeshuk gives the typical "no positive feedback, no refund" response. Worth reading just for the insanely condecending tone of ganeshuk's reply.

Reddit threads - These are the threads I made originally which have been changed to "resolved - pack arrived" (what, more false feedback?) [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/DNMUK/comments/5e3v0o/ganeshuk_selective_scammer_stolen_10k_from_me/[/URL] [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/5e3z3p/ganeshuk_selective_scammer_stolen_10k_from_me/[/URL] [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/AlphaBayMarket/comments/5e3wnp/ganeshuk_selective_scammer_stolen_10k_from_me/[/URL]

And here are the threads I made off my new account after he hijacked mine and decided not to pay: [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/5n1nnh/ganeshuk_still_a_selective_scammer_more_on_the/[/URL] [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/DNMUK/comments/5n1s81/ganeshuk_still_a_selective_scammer_more_on_the/[/URL] [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/AlphaBayMarket/comments/5mx0ym/ganeshuk_scammer_again_more_on_the_105k_scam/[/URL]

I highly recommend reading these for the countless people in the comments also claiming to be scammed by ganeshuk.

Hopefully with this post and everything summarised, admin/mods can step in here and refund myself and others what we deserve.


Comments


[49 Points] 1millionblunts:

i like how you said you'll give him your account after he pays you. then you give him the account anyways and expect to get paid by him after he pulled all that lmao. number one rule with shit like that, get it tracked. too much money to risk without any kind of proof of "customs taking it". if it was tracked, you would have got the money you deserved to be refunded.


[11 Points] None:

tipping he is a shitskin


[11 Points] throwoutofwindowplz:

Had a bad feeling when looking at his listings a year ago. Spidey sense was correct...


[6 Points] None:

Thanks for sharing! lesson learned - Ganeshuk is no go from now on ...


[6 Points] None:

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[6 Points] armandraynal:

Makes me want to order from him just to let him a negative feedback with "he's a cunt scammer of the worst kind, hell is too good for this rotten load of scum".


[3 Points] psychedfunky:

Sorry about that OP, i wish we had something like an index list to prevent things like this to happend... Oh, wait, we had.

Told you all about this in my "Presumably Scammer Vendors" post i had to delete. I guess we will have to see posts like yours coming out these days until some measures are taken. My posts:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/5pb3rx/presumably_scammer_vendors/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/5ps5ij/survey_on_the_post_about_vendors_please_read/

EDIT:

What a surprise, a vendor with this kind of feedback scammed you

Ganeshuk AB feedback: http://freedomsct2bsqtn.onion/iljvnkhbipuipnwmucxy/gzKsgOMd.png

Look at the amount of negative and neutral feedback. We can stop this form happening again. Now let's just compare feedback with two other vendors from the UK.

Vendor X AB feedback: http://freedomsct2bsqtn.onion/awfsrwnooozgyqqyvbia/IFLRheQW.png

Now this is the kind of feedback you get when you do things the right way. In the last 6 months ganeshuk had 4366 positive feedback and 34 neg. (plus 30 neutral). This vendor (also from the UK) gets 2545 positive feedback and 5 neg. (plus 8 neutral). Now you would say: well, he also has half the amount of sales. Ok then. Multiply the feedback x2. Not you get 5090 positive feedback and 10 neg. That is one fucking third of 30. Not to mention ganeshuk has 51 disputed orders from i dont know who.

I will just add another example of good feedback just for you to compare: http://freedomsct2bsqtn.onion/houltroazlgmfjgoigsf/SQzozkMO.png


[3 Points] None:

Everyone should avoid GaneshUK , pretending he is innocent when clearly he is a selective scammer. And who wants to buy off someone with dodgy morals.


[-4 Points] abu7:

Is this true or some planned activity?