When the hell will somebody start offering 4-MAR

For those of you don't know, 4-MAR is a very obscure stimulant. The effects are in between meth and MDMA. It pretty much trumps all other stims from what I've read. I've heard that the synthesis is more dangerous than meth but just as simple.

I would absolutely love to try some before I die.


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[5 Points] MDMangel:

Bucket list addition, check.


[2 Points] OneOf11:

It pops up from time to time on the east coast of Australia.

It's not as euphoric as mdma, but it's so clean. 100mg will have you clear and wide awake for at least 2 days. The euphoria from it is more like having profound moments of clarity and insight.

One thing I loved about it was the comedown.

You just fall asleep, doesn't drag on. Very nice stim.


[2 Points] None:

Somebody make this shiz, seriously.

https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/4_methylaminorex/4_methylaminorex_faq.shtml


[1 Points] Chetineva:

Interested absolutely. Sounds like a great time


[1 Points] aboutthednm:

It's not very good. Too much prehipheral jitters and basically no entactogenic properties. I found it rather antisocial and very very stimulating.

Then again, I find most strong stimulants to be overbearing.


[1 Points] hypherism:

I got some 4-MAR on nucleus back in the fall, I think? A vendor had it listed as Hawaiian Ice for $50/g! Kwality I think...

Anyway, the effects felt a lot like what I read about 4-MAR. It was extremely potent, definitely more serotonergic than methamphetamine. It was crystal clear, had a different consistency than meth, and vaporized almost instantly when compared to meth. The taste/smell was immensely different.

Honestly, I think it's hyped too much, imo. My friends loved it. For me, the duration was too long, and the potencyon top of that made it easy to overdo it and end up with worrying and uncomfortable cardiovascular effects.

It was nice being able to check off the bucket list, but not all it's cracked up to be. I would prefer an eighth of glass over an eighth of ice any day.


[-3 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

Never.

A myth has been built up around it. Its harder on the heart than meth and more tweaky.

Uncle Fester the meth chemist is partly responsible for the myth. And that "Ice" is methamphetamine carbonate, bless him. He's good on methods for racemic meth, or anything that uses a palladium ingot. But he's never extracted ephedrine or pseudoephedrine from tablets or plant material, that's for sure. Great at electrochemistry and high-pressure hydrogenation though. His books are definitely worth a read.