Alphabay's response regarding recent FUD

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There has recently been a series of reddit posts made to discredit Alphabay
and we would like to give our opinion to the community regarding the various
things that have been posted here.

Considering that several reddit members, including moderator wombat2combat
have a bias against Alphabay, we will post this on the market's welcome page
if it gets censored or deleted.

The moderator saw a thread from penissmith, a well-known troll on the DMN scene,
trolling about how to kill users. He is not a staff member, and will never be. The only
duties he ever performed were over a year ago, where he was paid to look for
scammers on the marketplace and report the findings to the admins for appropriate action.

We have deleted the thread because it was inappropriate, and removed his GRB
badge, which we actually forgot to do a year ago. The mods never contacted us
and just made a public post on reddit regarding that.

Use your own judgement people. Of course our staff don't want to kill people. That
would just make no sense. There are hundreds of troll thread on the forums, we
shouldn't make a public post for each.
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Comments


[34 Points] murderhomelesspeople:

Well this all happened really fast. So what now? what am I suppose to do with this torch and pitch fork?? I just order like 5 kilos of tar and feathers, am I being reimbursed?


[16 Points] Danksalmon:

The real question is why does wombat hate alphabay so much when he admits he stays away from it and doesn't know much about it.


[11 Points] mdoe1039:

I think that there's a lot of FUD surrounding AB, but you sure aren't inspiring trust here.

He is not a staff member, and will never be.

The only duties he ever performed were over a year ago, where he was paid to look for scammers on the marketplace and report the findings to the admins for appropriate action.

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's a duck. I understand they're not staff now, but you seem to be reluctant to really respond to penissmith's BS.

Most of all, penissmith is still a vendor. A low-volume vendor, but still there nonetheless. They seem to be serious about lacing with something, so why isn't it an obvious move to ban them as a vendor?


[10 Points] syn1k1:

Keep up the great work /u/alphabaysupport This FUD doesn't even make sense especially for those who use trusted vendors.

I hope Alphabay has been donating to Tor and charities to make the world a better place. You guys have a great privilege to be a tremendous force for good and can do a lot of positive things behind the scenes. I just wish fraud wasn't there though, please consider that.


[8 Points] MitalikaSucks:

As I always say, it is not about the incident itself but how you handle it

Well done Alphabay!


[7 Points] -thuggy:

heres a pic of a certain mod on this sub while replying to accusations that he has an agenda against AB.

http://imgur.com/D5PbTrY


[4 Points] honestone82:

This is less about AB and more about a piece of shit troll that runs around saying he is a mod on AB and acting like dick banning people and he was on their payroll.. Now he is talking about killing people in forum and all AB can say it don't pay attention to him. Ban the motherfucker..Show the community that you have a little control of the shit that goes on in your market. You got fucked up mods to begin with now you got a guy acting and saying hes a mod with some fucking badge representing. Do something??


[1 Points] wombat2combat:

There has recently been a series of reddit posts made to discredit Alphabay [. . .] Considering that several reddit members, including moderator wombat2combat have a bias against Alphabay

tell me just one comment or post in which I did not tell the truth about ab and lied to users. I always stick to facts when complaining about ab. your many fuck ups allow me to complain in the first place.

The mods never contacted us and just made a public post on reddit regarding that.

yes because it happens on your own forum and you should regularly check them.

He has no more privilege than any regular vendor

you can not add any vendor or users to a dispute, only a hand picked list of users. penissmith is in that list. that is the definition of a moderator [even if he might have not as many rights as a usual one].

He has no power to do anything in disputes, I don't know where you got that misinformation

he can [and does] allow scammers to scam https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/3xn1nx/seriously_do_not_use_alphabay_if_you_enter_a/

he can [and does] ask users to compromise their opsec https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/5atuao/wtf_ab_mod_penissmith_asking_for_a_selfie_with/

so he does work for you and therefore represent your market too. even if he would just be a vendor, he should have long been banned because 'joking' about such topics is not tolerable.

edit: deleting the thread on the ab forum is not a solution. banning penissmith him is. the same goes for your recent message leak: giving your users a discount is not going to fix future security issues. a security audit [by your staff] would.


[2 Points] honestone82:

You need to not only remove his little badge but ban him. You protect a piece of shit like that what else will you do?


[3 Points] pinochetHA:

Maybe if you guys operated your darknet market, like a darknet market, and not a clearnet shop selling magic crystals being run by a bunch of teenage stoners, then "several reddit users" would not be "biased" against you. I don't think this particular problem is very important, as perhaps your staff member was joking, but it would be better if he didn't joke about fent.

Also just an irony I noticed: penissmith's avatar wouldn't fly on my site. If a senior user added that I or a mod would delete it. Thoughts u/trappy_AB?


[2 Points] Ioserfaggot:

Not all reddit user hate Alphabay.
Noone is perfect.
In my opinion reddit mods should do everything to help every market get better and grow and not try to kill some markets.
For example reddit mods could have messaged AB mods and let them solve it and maybe let AB mods inform people on reddit (if necessary at all) about it too and say they solved it banned him etc. Why would you try to destroy a market? Because its in your personal interest for some reason. If you would care for users then you would try to improve every existing market.
Im thankful for ABs and every markets service and im happy they are making money from it and i want them to grow and make more money so they will get better everyday.
Go Alphabay! <3


[2 Points] JasperBuds:

EXITTTTT SCAAAAM


[2 Points] thatskank:

Kudos on the well thought out response for the community of vendors and buyers, and thank you for pgp signing it in true sir fashion.

Nip this stupid shit in bud because I've been around for the beginning and sometimes end of every market coming from doing illicit business online prior to the inception of DNMs, and I can say with much confidence I would rank AB right up alongside everyone's holy grail of Agora. All it takes is a use of a few simple brain cells to keep yourself and your coin safe on AB just like every other market and always have your eagles land safe and sound.

You can look at my submissions. They are just a small percentage of the actual amount of business I do online, and I have never lost a single cent on AlphaBay. I lost $30 on SR1; my only loss on that market. I also lost some change on 100 xanax bar FE exit scam on BMR, peanuts. Same with middle earth, lost some change I left sitting in my market wallet, something like $14, nothing worth moving off market when you plan to keep working. I can say in total I've probably lost no more than $150~ throughout all the years of market turmoil.

I reluctantly moved on to AlphaBay, but I stuck to my DNM basic guns that everyone should to protect what's theirs, and guess what, I'll repeat what I said earlier; the AlphaBay market has never cost me a single penny that wasn't a vendor's or rightfully theirs.

So stop blaming AlphaBay for your mistakes and your losses. Only the vendor or customer can be responsible for the loss of money on the markets. They are the only two primary parties that can fuck shit up. Until AlphaBay shutters is site and takes the money and runs, they have a clean slate in my book, and remember this doesn't mean there aren't scamming vendors or customers, BUT there ARE failsafes in place to protect both parties and the marketplace cannot force either the vendor or customer to look out for their own interests, they can only do the best they can to keep beating it into your stupid little skulls how not to be a knobjob with your hard earned money.

AlphaBay, keep up the good work. I know it's hard dealing with a bunch of idiots doing illegal things, but you've always handled the punches like a boss, and have always come out on top, saving face, and staying true to your words.


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] None:

AlphaBay 4 president


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] PogoStickie:

I bet Cooked's laughing his ass off


[1 Points] Thoughtsofamaniac:

wakes up

"Oh look, the weekly drama FUD about AB is posted."

/u/murderhomelesspeople is gonna be in so much shit if he ever starts a market. Like, the biggest shit. A mountain of shit.


[1 Points] Magicnatureforest:

To the alphabay staff is there anyway to expedite my dispute? Provided the original mod of the disputes from the vendor,essaying me with threats of harming me in real life and dox threats and it's been close to a week and really could use some closure.. Have three mods in the dispute now and it's kind of annoying lol


[1 Points] SoulUndead:

Sooooo are you ever gonna remove that piece of shit BigMuscles or not


[1 Points] disposable43436879:

Oh, you posted on reddit so what you say has to be true. Why don't you just use your classic excuse and say you were phished? Everybody you robbed was phished. Go phishing in my asshole you scumbag.


[1 Points] trynakick:

Paging u/whats_a_dmn


[1 Points] 85324131:

Its interesting, don't know what this person did. But the GrowMore scam is all I need to know. Fuck Alphabay, their escrow is not worth shit. Enjoy Fanboys, but please don't cry when you get robbed like so many others. Their FE is a complete scam and is not the only way sellers can take your money, the MODS will take it as well.


[0 Points] 409499493249:

This goes so many levels beyond just trolling. At this point you're harboring someone with terrorist ideologies, who is a very active member, vendor and is actively discussing these ideas with another vendor by his own admission.

You are the ones offering him this platform and pretending like nothing is going on. And biased against AB? Really not, the community deserves much better than something like this. I'd have the same knee jerk reaction for any other market.