How come everyone can make alpra/fentanyl and shit like that, but no one has the recipe for hydro/oxycodone/morphone/etc...??
What the hell...
How come everyone can make alpra/fentanyl and shit like that, but no one has the recipe for hydro/oxycodone/morphone/etc...??
[12 Points] al_eberia:
[3 Points] None:
as someone else said, almost all pharmaceutical manufacture of Opiates is derived from Thebaine which is another alkaloid in the poppy.
Total synthesis is possible, but not cost effective for someone selling drugs illegally. It will probably be done eventually. Trust me, I feel your pain, I think about this all the time.
Fentanyl and meperidine derivatives can be synthesized cost effectively with no controlled plant alkaloids required.
[1 Points] DextroShade:
I think it would be better to make meperidine (Demerol) because it doesn't require opioid precursors IIRC.
[1 Points] mymuse100:
You need opium which is codine aka rich in Thebaine...
Most of these people can make oxymorphone or oxycotin... but H is $$$$
They have the recipes, but if you want to make them at a decent price you need opioid alkaloids as a starting ingredient. To get opioid alkaloids you need to grow a shitload of poppies. If you are growing a shitload of poppies it is much easier just to go opium -> heroin rather than messing around with other crap.