Please help, my first purchase EVER. It was from THClear and I got a seizure letter from US Postal Inspection Service. What should I do?? I used pgp and everything

Hey everyone. I have been deciding if I should post this or not but after talking to a few people here on reddit they think I should. I redacted some personal and identifying information from the letter and decided to just do it.

I have been a long time lurker here and finally I pulled the trigger on something I thought I would be comfortable ordering. I really wanted to try thclears vape cartridges for a while now. I messed up so badly and I am very scared. If my family finds out I will be disowned. It has been almost a week 1/2 now since I ordered from him and I never got my package. Today I received the letter in the mail. Should I call the number back? Should I stay quiet? I can't have anyone know about this. Please any advice is good advice. I will be done with this from now on but what else?

I thank you for the replies in advance!

Letter: http://imgur.com/6yGd9WF


Comments


[194 Points] bathwaterlaps:

THClear is scamming you. "...or do not understand treason..." did it for me. Open a dispute and name and shame.

Call the number for shits and giggles. I won't reverse google it, but im guessing it's just a local USPS number he put in there for good measure.

The footer is great too. This vendor is a moron.


[61 Points] underdosedwtf:

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[42 Points] None:

US Postal Inspection Operations Technician...

😂😂😂


[20 Points] MT_Merchant_Mangler:

That's a scam bro. All I had to see in order to tell me as much was the reference to the 'Controlled Substance Act' without the accompanying statutory regulation number.

Protip: The Government when citing an act will always include the section of U.S. code that it belongs to.


[20 Points] ihopenotbutneverknow:

I agree its a fake letter but no offense how do we know your legit and not just trying to scare away his customers? Its been less then 30 days how about a screenshot of your archived orders on AB showing your purchase?

If you are legit its simple to figure it out. If its a real letter/number call it on saturday afternoon or sunday. IF its real they will be closed at those times and it will have some sort of answering machine since its a federal office telling you where you just called.


[17 Points] budsmokersonly710:

that letter is NOT real, it was clearly made with a template downloaded on MS Word


[15 Points] 710soldier:

your best course of action is to ignore the letter and find a new vendor, thats not a legit love letter


[12 Points] THClear1:

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." -Mark Twain

I do appreciate the exposure and the referendum of my business here. Thanks for those who appreciate my efforts, and thanks to the competitors for improving my exposure and driving new traffic to my feedback page on AB.


[9 Points] None:

/u/Thclear1


[10 Points] thehaga:

So you risked getting disowned for a few vapes didn't bother reading on how the process works, hit finalized before you got the package, typed up a fake letter and took a picture and got scammed. Hmm...


[9 Points] ark1406:

I'm calling BS on OP. I've ordered from thccarts, his stealth is the best I've ever seen from any vendor and he's only shipping carts! When I ordered from him, there were few hiccups with ordering and I ASKED HIM if he does direct deals, he said no - market and escrow only. He could of scammed me, but FORCED me to stay on escrow.

Not to even mention he controls the cart game, I bet there's a lot of pissed off competition, huh OP?


[7 Points] None:

I think its pretty clear the OP is trying to scam THClear into sending him free carts. The classic double scam.


[6 Points] BobbyLite79:

What package? Is it from eBay? You aren't expecting any strange packages, especially ones containing controlled substances. Nope. Not you.


[5 Points] None:

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[3 Points] topknotch89:

/u/Trappy_Pandora can you help this guy out. he obviously got scammed


[4 Points] None:

I would x post this to /r/danknation


[4 Points] MO_Drugs:

i am not going to get involved in this discussion because i am 99.99% sure you are just a dumb kid that ordered personal use amounts but is in a total fucking panic because they still live at home. i'll let the others travel your ponderous tale. fwiw, I used to get love letters monthly in the mid 90's from the early days of indian web pharmacies and they led to nothing. However, these are different days so nothing is for sure. if it IS personal use amount then just stop. ok? i don't doubt your sincerity of personal fear but honestly, your post is typical dramatic (to you), over reacting (to us) paranoia. Kid, I would tell you that you probably were not mature enough to make this first buy.

But this all rolls into the meta issue i want to share with you. I realize you had not been directly pressured in this thread so i can only assume you did what you did because you have seen it play out this way in the past. bottom line - you need to fix your brain on this NOW. i am talking about your attachment.

assuming you are not simply retarded, i guess you were being proactive.

i,e, don't ever let a bunch of subreddit assholes pressure you into blowing your entire anonymity with immature attitudes and pile on comments of "pics or it did not happen". FUCK THEM!! they won't be any good to you in jail. anybody you ever seek advice from should be the type that will offer discussion WITHOUT 'pics or it ....". You are hanging with the wrong people that impose such a condition.

Posting that image was a terrible fucking idea. AWFUL!

if you think the size of your city will insulate you from being identified through particular details of your letter, then you may be beyond hope. I can assure you that there are NOT too many love letters issued in your metro area for you to be safe. JFC, they can brute force your shitty passwords they certainly can and DO monitor public forums - possibly with automation!!

IF you are anything other than a personal use buyer, your attachment has destroyed your plausible deniability. funny how that is, huh? if you are just a scared boy then your non-existent problem is just more of the same old shit that kills the signal to noise ratio around here with the "am i fucked?" post you made.

BUT, if you are a reseller or was getting something exotic then you are a prime example for others by demonstrating the foolishness and common mistakes made by low hanging plums. either way, it sucks to be you, imho.


[2 Points] DiaperDankFrank11:

Mispellling shoudnt be on any official federal

document. My guess is vendor scammed you

sent a fake seizure letter, instead of the product.


[2 Points] None:

Treason lol way to go DNM vendor slow claps


[2 Points] None:

LOL at ''USPIS''


[2 Points] chef234:

OP: LISTEN TO ME: I have gotten these letters multiple times before. Did it also come as a certified letter someone had to sign? they ALWAYS send it like that along with just an envelope

also the envelope should be already stamped like no the envelope and with pockets.


[2 Points] Dog3Way:

This letter is a fake. I'm sorry but since you are new, never EVER FE.


[2 Points] Fuzmyster:

I like how it asks if you don't understand treason.


[2 Points] clooneyreviewsdnm:

This is such crap. THClear is the best vendor I've ever dealth with on the DNM. No fucking way he would selectively scam this moron with a letter that awful. Seriously, he's got the vapecart business on lockdown -- why would he screw that up with something this incompetent? If you've ever communicated with the dude, he's literate. Something OP clearly isn't.


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] janobi-boris:

Quick google search on the number shows;

[code]http://www.whitepages.com/business/michael-lee-kiser-chicago-il[/code]


[1 Points] elchapo55:

I just ordered from THClear hopefully I get my package they seemed pretty legit though


[1 Points] ThrowThatAwayAT:

/u/thclear1 wtf?


[1 Points] wolvesathedoor:

Dude, top of the letter. "Chicago Divsion" Scam.


[1 Points] tenderwingz:

Haha fuck thclear! He doesn't even know how to use pgp properly


[1 Points] Dnm_cunt:

Yeah in the US they won't just send you a letter, they will come and interrogate you first. Luckily in the UK - if it's international mail, you will just get a letter from the UK border force. basically saying we have intercepted a package address to you... You do know this shit is illegal right. naughty boy and don't do it again. You're on a list then and you're an idiot if you try again. This is for small amounts of course. I'm talking about magic mushrooms, weed and RC's. That's the only time I've ever seen these letters. Not personally bit plenty of friends have had them sent.


[1 Points] maxturbator:

That's actually pretty clever really...


[1 Points] PM_ME_YOUR_WABOES:

Either OP is trying to scam the seller, or the seller is trying to scam OP. OR OP is fake buyer and is actually a competitor of vendor. Most likely OP is the scammer. Letter is totally fake.


[1 Points] Pelican_Vendor:

I called the number. He is trying to scam you I got you nigga....

Also trust me when a domestic pack gets pulled they do not send a letter like that.


[1 Points] THE__USURPER:

"please call me at'' *eye roll


[1 Points] None:

I counted atleast 4 grammatical errors.


[1 Points] Jack_hymen:

Lol fake letter. Spelling errors and grammer issues. Doubt that would happen with a real letter.


[1 Points] giogomezbeats:

This looks like a Microsoft Word Template. Smh. Some vendors aren't technically advanced


[1 Points] R_O_F_L:

Damn, a letter from the chicago divsion of the USPIS office! I hope you understand treason you received that letter- it is because you finalized early... and for a vendor you've never used before.

The good news is, no you did not get caught by the authorities.


[1 Points] pothead2015:

That is by far the phoniest letter I have ever seen. It is hard to figure out if it is the OP trying to run a smear campaign against the vendor since from all indications the vendor apparently has great feedback. Anyway it goes there is no doubt in my mind that the letter is fake and someone is up to no good in this situation.


[1 Points] aboutthednm:

Did you receive this letter by registered mail?


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] weepark:

he sent you that letter.....


[1 Points] dasdatsherm:

Wow, the fucking nerve of some shithead scammers. How incompetent can you be? This obviously is written by someone whose first language isn't English. If this vendor really did send this, I hope he gets got


[1 Points] YoMommaRollsMyWeed:

LOL! Hardly any effort


[1 Points] elchapo55:

I use a vision spinner (basically the most basic ecig battery)


[-2 Points] Dnm_cunt:

Yeah in the US they won't just send you a letter, they will come and interrogate you first. Luckily in the UK - if it's international mail, you will just get a letter from the UK border force. basically saying we have intercepted a package address to you... You do know this shit is illegal right. naughty boy and don't do it again. You're on a list then and you're an idiot if you try again. This is for small amounts of course. I'm talking about magic mushrooms, weed and RC's. That's the only time I've ever seen these letters. Not personally bit plenty of friends have had them sent.


[-2 Points] Dnm_cunt:

Yeah in the US they won't just send you a letter, they will come and interrogate you first. Luckily in the UK - if it's international mail, you will just get a letter from the UK border force. basically saying we have intercepted a package address to you... You do know this shit is illegal right. naughty boy and don't do it again. You're on a list then and you're an idiot if you try again. This is for small amounts of course. I'm talking about magic mushrooms, weed and RC's. That's the only time I've ever seen these letters. Not personally bit plenty of friends have had them sent.


[-4 Points] None:

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[-11 Points] asdfsdfsdsdafsdf:

You are all retarded.


[-11 Points] fu_onion:

Chill. It's clear that you should only answer the letter if you want to claim the material - which would be even more stupid than ordering it to your parents address. Destroy the letter, get rid of all the bitcoin and pgp residue and get on with your life. Oh, and best you don't do dumb shit like this until you have your own place and you can find a supplier with decent opsec and stealth.