PSA: we must be more strict with stealth reviews

I think we should have a better standard to rate stealth in reviews. The purpose of stealth is to HIDE the product from any unwanted eye. By product I mean not only the shit but also its package: mylar bags, vacuum sealed bags, etc.

The stealth must be a visual barrier between the ENTIRE product and any eye, included the customer! This is my proposal to rate stealth:

*0- No visual barrier: the product is just inside in the envelope.

*1- 5: simple visual barrier: there is something else with the product but not a properly decoy.

*6-8: basic stealth: you can check inside the envelope and you won't find the product except if you need to check and again and in certain way 'destroy' the envelope's content to find the product.

*9-10: ninja stealth: this should an EXCEPTION because I have never received something at this level. I think you will need time to figure where is the product and for at least a few seconds your thoughts will include that probably you were scammed.

That's all. I don't understand why a mylar bag in an envelope is considered as a 9/10 stealth. My advice is that you should not trust the stealth section in the vast majority of reviews.


Comments


[12 Points] stickykitty1:

Here's the thing, and it's just one person's opinion man ;-): If someone is looking inside your envelope or box you are 99% fucked. If it's LE they already are suspicious for some reason and are not going to stop if they don't see what they are looking for right away. i.e. if they are looking in the pack, they are going to open the pack and thoroughly search it. 99% of stealth issues are related to the outside of the pack (aside from odor, but that is a given IMO, no odor should escape interior packaging).

I suppose some decoy might be helpful to trick an amateur trying to steal shit, like a bad USPS worker or something, but in my experience that is an extremely rare occurrence.

Of course the more stealth the better, but at a certain point logistics of time and money limit things to what is effective. If you find a vendor that goes above and beyond that's great, but basic vacuum/MBB with a totally normal exterior works fine doesn't it?


[9 Points] LRonFunches:

Pretty much every vendor review I see is 10s across the board and that is some dangerous shit. I was checking reviews of a particular weed vendor and reviews said that the bud were in a couple of vacuum sealed mylar bags inside a small box but that if someone were to look inside the box, they'd know what it was and yet the stealth score was a 9! If that's the standard you're going to hold a vendor to then a lot of these guys are going to just start throwing a handful of bud into an envelope and call it a day.


[4 Points] MyPupilsAreFineSir:

Stealth was so good, I never even received the product! Just threw it away with all my other junk mail! 10/10


[3 Points] None:

SQUUUUUWK


[3 Points] DarkskinJesus:

I got my stuff in a CD case one time. No indication that there were drugs until I destroyed the case. That is flawless stealth. If something has 10/10 stealth I should be able to open it in front of a cop and they won't question me.


[2 Points] mejuwi1:

in most countries the only way they track a pack is if the vendor or the packs are being profiled
quit whining around stealth and let vendors ship you good product lol i ve seen shit concealed in layers and layers of high quality stealth only to find the hash or weed to be complete rubbish


[1 Points] valuum:

back in the day NL dealers (Eren) used to send half kilos of molly to the US wrapped inside newspaper (no baggie) loose inside a box.


[1 Points] None:

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What is this?


[1 Points] None:

It's all about the decoy. Get creative with it.


[1 Points] DNMQUESTIONMARK:

Noticed that the OG vendors are keeping their stealth well, some new vendors are hopping in because of grown traffic to DNMS, most newer vendors have no adequate stealth


[1 Points] None:

i dont consider a vac seal inside a MBBn stealth. That should be the standard.


[1 Points] AuthorDreamweaver:

10s are given way too often, even when it's obviously from the "Stealth adequate for domestic" comment that it shouldn't be getting a 10.

UK domestic wise, of course the chances of interception are slim, which is why most vendors aren't coming up with 10/10 stealth. The usual jiffy/MBB indeed will suffice in 99% of cases, but, will with PGP, Tumbling, and other measures, and next-level stealth does count towards having some peace of mind.

If the dreaded 1% were to occur however (pack opened/inspected briefly/torn open etc), then again, as with PGP and Tumbling, this is the time it may very well save your skin.

Just as PGP would make it less likely your address could be discerned if the marketplace was seized, and just as tumbling will likely break the chain between you and your coins in the inevitable case that technology is developed to further deanonymise crypto currencies, 8-10/10 stealth may very well save your ass if the 1% happens.

Can vouch strongly for TellYourFriends, TechnoHippy's, MegaBudsUK, and Dr Seuss's stealth (10/10, aka bulletproof). AjaxFC, HulkedBenzoBoss, UKwhite, and Ganesh are all around 8-9/10, too. Symbiosis I'd class as 6/10, despite being a reputable vendor with many sales. It does do the job, but wouldn't suffice for the dreaded 1% eventualities.

Just my take on the ting


[-4 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

We need to fully discuss all stealth measures openly. So what if customs learn at the same time. What good can it do them when they don't even know if stealth is in use, because of an opaque paper covering called an "envelope"?

EVERY vendor should be using best practice, and have a range of clever options.

Imagine if bomber crews couldn't discuss formation flying or tactics, in case the Germans overheard. So what?

Right now, every vendor is making their own way to Berlin in their flying fortress. painted any colour they like.

"It's unfair on the vendor with the good idea blah blah". Fuck the vendor! Give him reddit gold or a special flair or something. Imagine a bomber pilot not telling gthe other pilots how to avoid the German night fighters?

This idiotic, woolly-headed rule will be gone one day. But how many customers need to get arrested first? How many packs must go missing? Why do the cops need to be made aware of the extent we use the postman as an unwitting drug mule?

Don't you wish EVERY vendor used similar clever stealth practices as the best you've seen?

We don't see anybody's stealth but our own. Ever. Vendors can never order from other vendors, or give our details out. We are as stupid and uneducated about stealth as you want us to be. Its like you want us to learn, but won't allow us. Thats why only scam vendors have great stealth.

Woolly-thinking lands you in the shit. This rule MUST go, and WILL go. delaying that is standing in the way of progress. History looks unfavorably on people who do that.