[Complaint/Warning] Knockoff Adderall tablets: [AD -30-]. High variance in tablet weight, not as effective as other sources. Is it underdosed, or something else entirely? Pictures inside!

Hey!

Pictures of adderall here.

Mass of tablets:

.415g .302g .371g .367g .402g .391g .315g .372g .344g .378g .344g

As you can see, they are kind of all over the place. Calipering the tablets shows that the diameter of the tablets is very uniform, but the thickness is not. You can also mostly tell that from the first picture >.>. You can also see a fair bit of physical damage to a few tablets.

As a benchmark, I tested a bunch of Indian Modalert brand modafinil and they were no more than a few mg off, even after bouncing around in a bottle for a few months.


What I'm wondering is - are they just poorly pressed and underdosed, or could they be something entirely else? I've taken a few - they are not as good as I think they should be, but then again that could just be mental, as the tabs look low quality.

They were purchased from a domestic vendor who, also shipped bulk from Afganistan to the US. My guess is that the account has both an international vendor, and a domestic vendor which sources bulk from the interational vendor to ship domestically.

Anyone have legit pharma AD -30- they could take a good close up picture of? Maybe weight a few of the tablets if you have the scale handy? If anyone has ideas as to what the problem (if any!) might be, would love to hear your ideas.

Thanks!


Comments


[3 Points] theseeker01:

I have 60 30mg IRs a month I'll weigh some and see how much they weigh. I get Barr generics. They have 30 on them but those tabs just don't look right.


[2 Points] None:

I can answer your second question - those are fakes; that's what the problem is. No doubt. The weight is all over and the diameter in even a really bad press will usually be consistent but the height variance is insane. They aren't from a legit pharmacy in Kabul (yes there is such a thing if anyone is about to mention this)

Reagent test them but frankly I wouldn't take them regardless of what shows. I would contact the vendor with what you presented and also maybe point them to this thread. I would ask for a refund and not reship in this case. The vendor isn't being responsible at all or they're willing to send such outrageously bad pills.

I am not anti-India or Middle East sourced pills if they're from legitimate manufacturers. They do have quality controls in place. But those aren't even close. You're wise to be checking but I will give it about a 0% chance they're anything but bad intentional copies.

I've noticed a rash of posts about fakes lately. It's a bit disturbing.


[2 Points] CocaineNose:

These fakes have been going around for quite awhile on DNM's. I believe the last time I got them it was from the UK. They will keep you up all night so I'm betting on caffeine, ephedrine and maybe a tiny bit of other stuff.


[1 Points] theseeker01:

I just measured mine.

4 of them all 0.37ish on the scale.

They're probably only like 40% addy and with those weight variations certainly fake


[1 Points] throwitaway944:

I would stop taking those immediately. What vendor did it come from?

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2830

http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/1q3wc9/all_mrkts_beware_of_fakecounterfeit/


[1 Points] Theeconomist1:

God damn it. These counterfeits are really quite disturbing. I don't have a legit pill to compare your with but looking at photos off valid internet sources (like drugs.com), these look off. Granted, those pics are not as high quality as yours, but from what I can tell, the numbers are off. Going off the photos off drugs.com, the "3" and "0" are finer than your pills. Your pills, the numbers appear thicker. Now, this could be that I just don't have a close up photo of the legit pill but that is my observation.

Also, the mass is all over the place. I would think manufacturers would get the masses right every time. Or very close. you are showing 30% deviations, which while I've never done a mass measurement of my pills, I think this is way off for legit standards and quality. You should be able to weigh a big quantity of pills and from that measurement get the number of pills b/c pills should be consistently weighed. Having these deviations, you would be lucky to get close on a big number of pills - you'd probably be 10-30% off.

So many fucking fakes floating around on EVERYTHING. Big thread on Norco fakes a few days ago. A week or two ago it was Oxy fakes. Death to counterfeiters! I think that was printed on an old currency note. I kind of like it now. If you can eat the cost comfortably you could always send a pill to EcstasyData.org to get GC/MS confirmation on what the fuck you are ingesting.


[1 Points] throwahooawayyfoe:

if it's a knockoff, it's probably pressed with ethylphenidate.


[1 Points] None:

[deleted]


[1 Points] hd3slyde:

those are pressed, the chips in them, skuffs or whatever you want to call it, there is damage to those pills. no way those are pharma, the weight difference also. those tabs are sketch and I personally would not take them.