What is the best opiate for someone new

I've used oxy about 15-20 times. What type opiate should I look to use in a safely and affordable manner?

EDIT: Going to go with everyone's advice, but are there any drugs that give a similar high to oxy without being dangerous?


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[28 Points] deltefknieschlaeger:

Turn back as long as you can.


[10 Points] smellycheescake:

Seriously, just stop whilst you can. I started the same as you, thought I was different, that I'd be able to control it. I ended up on heroin and fentanyl nose spray within a year. Took over my life (4 years ago) and I'm still recovering on subutex. Don't bother, I know it's the best feeling ever, but it only lasts so long, you'll ruin your life, destroy the people around you who can only love you for so long. I know this seems ridiculous for such a simple question but the path goes one way and it never EVER ends until you hit rock fucking bottom. Please Just STOP. I know you won't listen but remember my words when you're hooked on H in a year or so. Oh and don't take fucking fentanyl unless you wanna OD you need to have massive tolerance and even in miniscule doses you can OD like I did. I beg you mate, just stop.


[6 Points] saddatay:

GatorGrump - let me just be a bit of a hypocrite to start: be careful, this is a slippery slope you're getting on. From the sounds of it you want to go on this ride and it's a ride you may find yourself stuck on for the rest of your life. I did my first heroin bump in the late 90s, and here I am nearly 20 years later still fighting with it. But, I've never let it take me down. I use very responsibly. I'm a responsible and successful guy, and I mostly dont let it own me - but it definitely has its hooks on me. And early on, I had some close calls. Like a pyromaniac, you're gonna burn yourself from time to time, maybe even take down a house or two, until you really learn to control yourself. I have my own rules and my own methods I use to keep myself from going too far, but that's not easy to do for most folks. In fact, some never quite figure it out. And it can very quickly and quietly go from recreational and occasional use to a daily "i need it, and its my medicine so i dont get sick" kinda use. And seriously man - kicking opiates could be one of the greatest challenges of your life. Do not underestimate this. (Suboxone is a miracle drug.)

So you really only have two choice: pills and heroin (I'm not including opium) but ultimately its all the same - it's all morphine when your body metabolizes it. The good thing about pills is you know what you're getting. It's effectively pharmaceutical grade heroin, for all intents and purposes, and you know what you're getting. But pills are, and can get (if you're feeding a habit) expensive fast. At roughly $30 for a roxy, it can add up fast. And as your tolerance increases, so do your costs. So if you (like all aspiring junkies) plan to not get addicted (good luck with that), you can keep it well under control and just use recreationally. Outside of pills, like oxy/roxies, percocet, etc., the only other alternatives are opium and heroin. I havent seen much opium on the markets, but I havent looked hard either. Heroin, on the other hand, is very inexpensive (relatively speaking) and way more affordable than pills. But with heroin, there is a lot to know and its risky business. There are different grades of heroin, different ways to use it and not use it, and ultimately you don't really know what you're getting - unlike pills. No matter how reliable your dealer is, you just never really know. Sure you can test it, but that just proves my point.

So, there you go. I'm sure some people will chime in and correct me here and there, and get into how one's body metabolizes opiates and bla bla bla, but this is what you need to know.

Happy to answer any questions but seriously dude - be smart and be responsible. I'm a successful and responsible guy, but I'm a bit of an anomoly. Most people get on this train and never get off. That's a fact. If you find yourself saying to yourself, "hm, yeah I can do this for the rest of my life and it wont be a problem" you're already in trouble. Keep it recreational.

Forgive my lecture. Just trying to help a brother out.


[5 Points] ellen_pau:

Opiates are very tricky. Just keep this in mind always and you might be safe. I don't touch them except for some Coke.

Edit: Coke is not an opiate but I'm stupid. Just do some heroin or morphine.


[4 Points] samwhiskey:

No one can guarantee safe and affordable opiate use. Best to stay away if you don't need it.


[5 Points] None:

Kratom to take the edge off after a hard day of work (not every day, but every 3 day is safe), and morphine is very sedating if you are into that sort of thing. I prefer morphine over heroin or oxy just because it is so deliciously sedating and relaxing also u can binge on it for 3 days straight with no hangover if you wish but after that u need a 2 week break to be safe or else you can experience some insomania and anxiety/irritability which ofc can get worse if u binge every week, much worse. Stay safe. Also throw some crack in here and there if you want, dont only use opiates, reduces chance of physical addiction. But dont go into mixed drug abuse, you need to know you are strong willed. Mixed drug abuse = fucking unstable brain/crazy for month(s), ive been there.


[5 Points] otistoole:

opiates make every day 'the best day ever'

but there is a price to pay for all those great days and good times.

as long as you are ok with that, then carry on....


[3 Points] Trappy_Pandora:

Before you start, please visit /r/addictionprevention

I or another moderator can help you divvy up your purchase so that you can enjoy it to the maximum extent, and not suffer any consequences.


[3 Points] OpiLuvr:

I've been a heroin addict for 15 years so I cant justify recommending you to do that.

If you really want to keep doing opiates then stick to the weakest, like codeine or hydrocodone. Oxy is a bit stronger but you really don't want to be going any stronger than that.


[3 Points] Calypso420:

Let me just tell you , In my experience it went like this.. Morphine - Hydocodone - Oxycodone - Heroin - Suboxone - Methadone.. Its a dead end, life becomes a living HELL, and let me give you some advice that has been working for me... Try to replace all your dope habits and just smoke cannabis. I have REPLACED all those opiates and Benzos just by using this awesome harmless plant called Mary Jane ... It truly is a cure and is the best medicine anyone can come across.. Just my 2cents. :) . Also I think Kratom is the least dangeros even though it isnt technically an opiate.


[2 Points] CornCobbDouglas:

Kratom


[1 Points] shitbrik:

Hydromorphine and oxy are the most similar in feeling, but i still enjoy oxy far more than other opiates


[1 Points] JburnaDNM:

Codiene is the weakest which provides for me an uncomfortable opiate high and not really enjoyable high. Then next you have hydrocodone which is very enjoyable for me at around 30mg but for you do not go past 15. Then comes oxycodone which is my favorite euphoria wise which I dose the same as hydrocodone. Heroin imo is ok and just isnt euphoric enough. Someone mentioned kratom which is really enjoyable but is not an opiate but geels just like one and the safest and most similar to oxycodone. People tout it as being non addictive but I got hooked for a minute. Its almost impossible to overdose on plain leaf krato and its 100% natural and legal in 90% of the usa. Extracts are what led me to experience withdrawals after extended heavy use but compared to other opiates it is no where near as addictive and 100% safer. Hydromorphone is only good for pros and iv users but only for the rush. Oxymorphone is the best of them all and my favorote but extremely strong so stay away unless you know what you are doing. Same with fet. Yes opiates are addicting but its not the point of this post to address that. If I had to give a reccomendation id start with kratom and then if that doesnt float your boat get some oxycodone and dose at 10-15mg which equals 2-3 percocets. Im an opiate connoisseur and love them. Dose 30 minutes beforehand with 25mg benadryl and you will not experience any nausea. I figured this out trying to boost my nods and noticed that I can smoke as many cigarettes I want and do anything I want and never throw up from getting sick from the high. Enjoy!


[1 Points] sillysally11:

Oxy is already one of the best highs IMO, just too damn expensive. I like Heroin the most, followed by Oxy, but opiates in general are a super slippery slope to get on. I'm currently not using any and I'm perfectly content. The absolute best buzz I ever felt was when I did a 50mg of morphine and then a few minutes later the oxys I was waiting for arrived, I did an 80 while on the 50 of morphine and the mixture of the two drugs was unbelievable, best opiate high ever, by far.


[1 Points] Spa__ce:

Calm down everyone. Ive been taking oxys hydros and dillies a couple times a month for years with no issue. You can do opiates without immediately needing to shove heroin down your arm.

But like ALL drugs be CAREFUL.


[1 Points] HulkVsMeth:

I'm withdrawing from heroin right now and it's eaten up 3 years of my life but honestly I love it. If I was to give you advice start with morphine or oxy 30mg, don't just jump into dope


[1 Points] python134r:

I gotta agree, NONE. Ya don't want to be a dope fiend, took me 20 years to figure that out. 7 of them in US Bureau of Prisons extended stay america hotel......


[1 Points] WonkyWarrior:

Kratom, I think the high is kick ass honestly, less abuse potential than shit like heroin to.

Only down side is consuming it, fuck that nasty powder.


[1 Points] Solutia:

Never taken any opiates and been doing heroin since last week. Just make sure to have a scale , start with 10mg increments. Have fun


[0 Points] thathappenedtome2:

cocaine


[-9 Points] throwaway1882072:

Acetayl Fentanyl is pretty good stuff. Super strong hit, fades very quickly. Tiny tiny tiny amount is needed.