Pressed Xanax Bars... Whats the deal?

I've had bars from three different sources in my "career" on the darknet, and every time they were (or seemed to be) dosed correctly and the press on each was at least mediocre enough to resell. From best to worst, Quantik Dr.Xanax Bobafet. Upon doing some research, I've concluded that the medical presses used by pharm companies are heavily monitored by various agencies. I did a little ebaying, and found some relatively cheap (400-900 usd) tdp-0 tablet presses and tdp-0 dyes of anything I've ever taken, but theres no way it could be that easy... These presses have about 1/20 of the force as the motor powered presses, which are 1/20 he power of the pharm company rotary presses, but is it possible for them to produce a decent product? By no means am I condoning this, but I saw a few posts over on some psychadelics forums about them being pretty good for e pills, but that doesn't mean it'll bind some dry white powder together good enough. Im sure these are also monitored extensively by the feds. If you have any links on this process, I'd apreciate it if you could leave them below.

Another thing I was curious about is how they get such a small dose into the pill. I've read a few papers on homogenous powder mixing, but nothing I've found says it can be used on the sub-mg level. I guess the people who pull of these operations probably aren't stupid, and, I honestly find it hard to trust pharmacuetical companies any more than some dudes over the internet.

Once again, Im just curious and bored and looking for some reading material to learn about something that directly impacts me since im a dnm patron. I have no plans to do this, as I witnessed a good friend do 3 years because it was his 2nd offense and he had only 15 xanax bars. I can only imagine the kind of shit you'd be in if you fucked around and started pressing bars and got caught..... yikes...


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[6 Points] BaileyJayOFFICIAL:

Leave it up to the semi-professionals/pharmaceutical companies. Quantik has been in the game awhile now, and even his press isn't 100%. If you think you can spend more money on equipment & gain more knowledge on pressing than Quantik already has under his belt, and press better than him, go right ahead.


[4 Points] None:

I did a little ebaying, and found some relatively cheap (400-900 usd) tdp-0 tablet presses and tdp-0 dyes

If it's hand-crank, don't bother. They're hard to operate. Not that it's complex, but it's a workout. They don't churn out pills as smoothly as you'd think. Single-punch automatic TDP presses ($1000-2000) are the best choice for the mid-level producer.

These presses have about 1/20 of the force as the motor powered presses, which are 1/20 he power of the pharm company rotary presses, but is it possible for them to produce a decent product?

Not true. Machines like Quantik's ZP rotary press are said to operate at a maximum of 40kN, and the same can be said for some single-punch TDP presses. That's more than enough compression power, unless you plan on making counterfeit rocks. The hardness of the tablets will be strong enough to fool most users. Crumbly bars happen when the binder sucks, not enough powder is being dispensed into the dies (something like that), or the upper punch simply isn't pushing down with enough force/pushing down far enough (that last is usually only an issue with manual presses).

I've read a few papers on homogenous powder mixing, but nothing I've found says it can be used on the sub-mg level.

People go overkill with blending, and think that if you're pressing a pill with anything less than 100mg of active product, that you absolutely need to invest in a ball mill, V-style powder mixer, granulator, the whole shebang. For anything above a few milligrams, you could get away with just dropping both powders in a Tupperware container and shaking well. That is, if the granules of both your excipient and your active ingredient are approximately the same size. If you want to colored tablets, it's not that easy. The pills will be speckled if you jusy dry mix that shit and shake it up.

Another thing. If you crush a pill, you can see that the powder has a surprisingly large volume. And a dose like, say, 500ug is physically much larger than what most people would expect. 2mg is four times as large as that, it's not that much of a challenge to get it mixed well. The bigger the pill, the easier it is to make consistent doses.

Oh, working in a dry environment prevents clumps that could otherwise cause distribution problems.

Don't take my word for all of that, though. I've never done an illegal thing in my life!


[3 Points] yeahboyeeee:

i have asked myself the same question previosuly as well. it seems like such a monumental process to turn these out yourself and be of the quality of the big companies. another n00b question I have asked but I haven't seemed to find a solid answer for is how they are coming up with the raw material for xanax or hydrocodone or whichever pill is being pressed. why go through all that trouble when they could just sell the bulk powder, it would have the same effect but without the hassle. maybe im missing something. maybe im just a n00b. not sure.


[1 Points] xSwrvs:

They do it in Canada due to the laws here and customs clearing so fast from Canada, I think Q said something about the judge granting to give the people in the doc case 4 years lol


[1 Points] 2005C:

Is xanax available from online India pharmacies?