Longtime trustworthy vendor sends fake pills for the first time. What to do?

Has anyone had experience with a vendor you've trusted for a while who's sent good product in the past suddenly sending fake pills in multiple transactions? I'm running into this situation, and despite my explanation of the situation to the vendor (and willingness to help in any way possible), he refuses to help in the matter.

He insists the pills are real and directly from the manufacturer bottle. But I know that isn't the case: the pills have no effects at all. No matter how many are taken, no effects. And I also have known good pills--those DO provide effects. This isn't a tolerance issue or anything like that. The pills legitimately have nothing in them as far as I can tell. Maybe caffeine or sugar, or just binders/filler. That's it.

I'm contemplating sending one pill to ecstasydata.org to test the contents, but the $150 fee for non-ecstasy pills is quite steep. I could also try a reagent test, but I understand that they're not necessarily 100% accurate. Then again, I'm not sure if I do that that that'll convince the vendor. He insists no one else has reported issues, but either that's a lie, no one but me has ordered from him (and newer transaction reviews are fake), or he gave me and me alone fake pills.

I should also note that these transactions took place on Dream which provides no facilities to dispute transactions that were finalized early. I've submitted support requests, but have yet to hear back from any admins.

Does anyone have any thoughts on what to do? Have any experience in a situation like this? I can list the vendor name and/or the pill involved if anyone's curious, but I'm hesitant to drag anyone's name through the mud just yet (and I also wonder if I could run into personal safety issues by saying such things on a forum like this).

Edit: The Dream admins are telling me they won't help at all because the orders were FE'd. Am I totally fucked at this point? I understand the risks involved in FEing, and that selective scamming is possible, but it's frustrating having this happen after working with a vendor for so long and having no problems up until now. Should I just avoid FEing all together? Are there actually good vendors who allow escrow orders? Or should I just avoid Dream and go to a site with good moderators or dispute functionality?


Comments


[11 Points] None:

Am I totally fucked at this point? YES

Should I just avoid FEing all together? YES

Are there actually good vendors who allow escrow orders? YES

should I just avoid Dream and go to a site with good moderators or dispute functionality? YES


[6 Points] DOOT_DOOT_:

This is why we don't FE


[5 Points] poncho_escobar:

Buy a test kit, name and shame vendor.


[2 Points] howdydoodiethrow:

Please please tell us at least the pill name, so the rest of us can assess what we might be dealing with.

Some troubleshooting tips: Is it a new brand that you're not used to? Do the pills look legit compared to online pics? Do they break apart easily or crumble too easily? What does the filler look like? Is it consistent or splotchy? Do the pills have the same taste compared to real ones you're used to?

I've had strange doubts when getting a new brand, but after getting used to it a few days later they usually feel fine. But every case is different and as you know it's a dangerous place out there and even solid vendors can be tricked by suppliers substituting product even in the manufacturer's bottle.

Your best bet is to try another vendor if you can, and do a "taste test", alternate between one vendor and another and see if you can detect differences. Ecstasy data is solid, but takes a looong ass time and you may not be able to wait that long.

But please alert us which brand it is so we can be on guard.


[1 Points] Triad_trees:

You can send them to energy control. I'm not sure if they have fees or just request a donation


[1 Points] Jethro23:

Im out $400 from a vendor who sent bunk product and all the reviews said it was fake and the vendor told the mod that I was a vendor trying to ruin his op. My account is 3 years old and has spent 10's of thousands and the mod released my escrow funds to the vendor! and The vendor is fairly new (qualityking) and if you look at his feed back he obiously sent out a bad batch. fuck that guy. anyway end rant, doesnt matter if youre in escrow or FE sometimes, most markets side with vendor. I even made a very good argument to mods and it was like they didnt even read my messages


[1 Points] None:

Find a new vendor


[1 Points] None:

Do most people lack common sense? YES