has anyone had any experience with making their own dmt? Ive looked into it and it looks like a fairly easy process
Is it worth it to make your own DMT?
has anyone had any experience with making their own dmt? Ive looked into it and it looks like a fairly easy process
[13 Points] Vendor_BBMC:
[7 Points] XinruLiu:
The savings are massive and you getter a better result due to the understanding of the process. Normaly when you cook food tastes better for your guests in this case its the opposite or equal (not sure as DMT is a solo voyage) imo. Happy cooking.
[4 Points] bruteforce8675309:
He Who Must Not Be Named has done hundreds of extractions using MHRB (Mimosa hostilis root bark) over the years. I would not hesitate to say anyone who made it past the 8th grade could make quality product if they do even just a smidgeon of research to try to grasp exactly how the extraction works and why.
You really only need a handful of things:
MHRB (some people are turning to Acacia now, HWMNBN does not have experience with this) - this is by far the most costly ingredient but it is possible to find, however it is only going to continue to get more expensive and the supplier used by HWMNBN over the years now only deals in bulk, with a minimum order that is cost-prohibitive to the majority of people who just want to try it out. Powdered is easiest to work with, shredded bark you can blend yourself but it is not a great idea to breath the dust and you need a very powerful blender.
Sodium Hydroxide (aka lye, aka NaOH) - very very cheap, really not a suspicious chemical. One could easily find this at many hardware stores, but HWMNBN is partial to anywhere that stocks supplies for making soap, essential oils, etc. You want 100% pure powder/flakes, not a solution.
Naphtha (preferably V&M Naphtha) - this can be found at virtually any hardware or paint store (it is paint thinner) - HWMNBN prefers V&M as it does not leave a residue when it evaporates
Separatory funnel - this is not mandatory but it makes life 10x easier. If you're not comfortable purchasing one of those (somewhere around 1-2L capacity is sufficient), plastic milk jugs can kind of serve the same purpose but are kind of a pain in the ass, and if you don't have a sep funnel then you will need a GLASS turkey baster as well. But you will want milk jugs anyway for a different reason BUT they MUST be 'HDPE' (high-density polyethylene - I believe it is #2 plastic) or if IIRC 'PP' (polypropylene) is suitable as well but I am not 100% on that, would have to take a look at the MSDS.
Distilled water - you can use tap water, but just don't. Distilled water is crazy cheap and will not introduce impurities.
Martini glasses and razor blades - just trust me, this is by far the easiest/cheapest way to get the highest yield. Pyrex dishes are a bitch and you will always lose an unfortunate amount of the final product.
Sink/something to create a hot water bath in which you can submerge gallon milk jugs
Freezer
Saran wrap
The simplified steps go something like this. Add NaOH to H2O in a milk jug about 1/2 to 3/4 full. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND (don't add H2O to NaOH). I do not remember the ideal pH but there are tutorials all over the internet (and having the perfect pH IMHO is not essential) and the calculations are incredibly simple. The solution will likely heat up a bit so add NaOH slowly. Once all the NaOH is in the jug with H2O, gently roll the jug around to mix it but be careful not to agitate it too much.
Add MHRB (again, I forget the ideal ratios)
Place this jug in a relatively warm to comfortably hot water bath (e.g. a kitchen sink). Every 10-20 minutes, take the jug out and roll it around slowly (do NOT shake it). You can do this for a few hours or even for a few days, although the return diminishes exponentially. Heat and time are what produce high yield.
Once you are satisfied with this step, add naphtha to the milk jug (that is why you shouldn't have filled it all the way, just like I said). Less is more in this situation. Read a tutorial. The alkaloids from the bark are now in freebase form and they are basically insoluble in H2O but EXTREMELY soluble in naphtha and other non-polar solvents. I think it is something like 1g DMT/100mL of naphtha. Generally you can get about 1-2% DMT by weight from MHRB (so ideally 1g DMT from 100g MHRB powder). Do the same water bath/rolling steps after the naphtha is added. You can always do a second or third naphtha extraction to increase yield.
If you have a sep funnel, and know how to use it, then do it, being careful to let the powder settle at the bottom of the milk jug before transferring the naphtha layer (and probably a bit of the organic layer) to the funnel. If you don't, a turkey baster will work but you will have trouble getting all of the inorganic (naphtha) layer out (it will be the relatively translucent layer on top) and for this reason, a second and/or third extraction is recommended.
Collect all of the naphtha (which now contains your DMT freebase!!) in a glass mason jar or something of that nature. Try your hardest not to collect any of the organic layer (the sludgy brown solution with the MHRB in it), as this will introduce impurities.
DMT is very soluble in naphtha but practically insoluble in very cold naphtha. So, you will fill the martini glasses with your DMT containing solvent (being careful not to overfill), cover them in saran wrap, place them carefully in the freezer and overnight the DMT will crystallize. The crystals should be fairly well stuck to the glass due to the nature of how crystals form, so you can either carefully pour as much naphtha (quickly while it is still cold, and still saving the solvent for a second recrystallization) out of the glasses as possible and allowing the rest to air dry (then scrape the crystals off the sides when they are completely dry), or if you want to try some sort of filter, again read a tutorial. I prefer the former method. In my experience, heat, time, steady hands and a solid understanding of what is happening at each step of this extraction will allow you to produce more than adequate yield of pure white crystals of extremely high quality.
PM if you have any questions, I just don't feel like going more in depth right now.
P.S. A final note, if you find that later extractions are not as pure (yellow or orangish, gooey, etc., you can dissolve it in a small amount of very hot hexane and recrystallize, although if you are not familiar with recrystallization you might want to do a bit of research as good recrystallization sometimes requires an understanding of a number of different variables that can affect the outcome. Hexane can be found at arts and crafts stores, I forget what it is used for but you will find it there.
[3 Points] None:
Just be careful with the lye, thank you, that shit eats humans. Wear gloves.
[2 Points] None:
fuck 12
[3 Points] CapnKrump_2:
Whatever you do, don't buy your root bark from Beautiful Acacia off of Ebay. His bark is garbage as multiple people on /r/DMT will tell you. I bought some of his stuff without doing my research and wasted a lot of time and effort.
AscensionEthnobotanicals is supposed to be pretty good though.
[2 Points] DarkKnight_1111:
As long as you have the bark you are good to go. Do you have a conecction for a decent amount of bark? Everything else is easy as hell to get.
[2 Points] septic_shock:
Try it. You'll like it.
And yes, lye is dangerous. Remember fight club?
[1 Points] ZummerzetZider:
piece of piss. Well worth it
[1 Points] mj1176:
It's pretty easy. If you can get your hands on MHRB, lye, and naphtha you're pretty much good to go.
[1 Points] za4h:
It is much more cost effective, if you do not get caught. Mimosa is a controlled substance, and acacia will probably be soon. Getting caught with just the lab ware and source material is enough to get a conviction, which is a Class 1 Felony in the states.
First offenders will likely get several years of probation, whereas second offenders will go to prison for multiple years.
So is it worth it? Well, are lottery tickets worth it?
Edit: I would say treat this like ordering pseudo. This isn't the late nineties anymore. The DEA knows all about DMT and treats it far more seriously than they should, given it's incredible value as a psychedelic.
[1 Points] meow133meow:
mad easy to make this shit, i was making this years ago, and u can get like 5-10grams from 30 minutes of work, its literally the easiest thing u can make, just combine two or three things, shake, take off the top layer, frezze, coffee filter it, and white crystals. second and third time i tried, i got a slight brown in the colors from not separating it well enough, but first time, perfect white.
now u sprinkle that stuff on joints if u want, or bong hit it, 15 minute intense high, not exactly for the light-hearted, but on joints, its kind of like mini-dosing, pretty cool.
The only drugs you can trust are ones you made yourself.