Middle Earth possibly pulling exit scam. No vendor withdrawls for 24+ Hours. DO NOT PLACE ORDERS UNTIL RESOLVED!

This is a warning for all DNM users! One vendor confirmed receiving a deposit, but it is very likely a mistake or purposefully done by admin to make other vendors think that "everything is ok" and to keep shipping and processsing orders.

A dozen + other vendors have confirmed not being able to withdrawl. I have several withdrawls ranging from less than 1btc to 20 btc over 24 hours now and none have been broadcasted. Many other vendors are in the same position.

Every customer who FE'd is going to receive their orders from me, in good faith, despite me not being able to withdrawl coins. Those orders will be a 100% loss to me, yet I am shipping them despite I will never see a penny from it. This is done on purpose, to reward those who do not shaft honest vendors. Im going to loose another 100,000+ in money, setting me back at least half a year, due to this loss. This is all because of customers who do not think about the risk that we vendors take by using escrow. Shame on you for not taking care of the vendor who ALWAYS takes care of you! I am not recommending FE'ing for unknown or new vendors, but for someone like me who has been on every major market since SR1, who has never scammed and who has 99.9% positive feedback over 2,000+ transactions? Yes, its quite a kick in the balls to loose this money when I do nothing but honest business with my customers.

This is a good lesson to those who think that using escrow is the safest bet with markets: IT IS NOT. It has NEVER been. Direct deals with me has always been the ONLY 100% guaranteed method to receive your product! Do NOT do direct deals with vendors you've not done business with extensively over time or can have hundreds or thousands of others vouch for! You WILL loose all your money this way.

I have been through every market scam since SR1. It looks like the Middle Earth admin's are the Evolution admin's if this ends up being a full exit scam. These same people are pulling the same shit over and over, heisting 10's of millions each time. Much easier than robbing banks.

For those who want to do business with a honest vendor who has a 2+ year of no scams, please visit my alphabay profile "greenmachiner":

http://pwoah7foa6au2pul.onion/user.php?id=130412

I do business on Nucleus and Abraxas under the same alias, however I have tried to get ahold of abraxas staff for over 1 month now with zero response. I believe Abraxas will be the next ship to fall. I do not recommend doing business there.

Here is what the Middle Earth has said:

We all have same problem as you- do not panic!! As you can see below from elherbolario they are starting to SLOWLY appear. We are sorry this is still the fucking btc network speed. When the btc network overload- some users have delay but all works 100% correct. We had a customer yesterday waiting almost 8 hours for first confirmation. Eventually it appeared. It's making everything backed up in our systems too. Unfortunately there is not a magic button here that speeds up the btc network. It's like sitting in car inside the bad traffic, frustrating. Patience activated.

Here is a screenshot of the conversation in VIP: TOR: http://imgbifwwqoixh7te.onion/#/VNRndDt!iD5-2yrs_VmQnAW7Ft-E8AE0nzorKqD4awhCVBH1 Clearnet: https://img.bi/#/VNRndDt!iD5-2yrs_VmQnAW7Ft-E8AE0nzorKqD4awhCVBH1

You can see from this response they are blaming the "BTC Network". Any kid knows that this is not a bitcoin network problem. All transactions are working fine, have been working fine, and always will work fine on the bitcoin network. All withdrawls from all other markets, all other wallet providers are all working 100%. There are no problems anywhere except on middle earth.

When they start using irrational logic and blaming things that should not be blamed, you should be very worried. This certainly appears to be a full exit scam.

The vendors who have vouched for this have done in the VIP section, which is like the Round Table for SR1. I cannot provide any links because you cannot access that content. I've been around for years, you'll have to take my word on it. Of course, you could just try to do a withdrawl on your ME account and confirm for yourself.


Comments


[28 Points] sapiophile:

A dozen + other vendors have confirmed not being able to withdrawl.

Why. Why why why why would you say this but not actually link to any of it.


[23 Points] alfabi:

There are 10000+ unconfirmed transaction on the blockchain and rising.


[20 Points] None:

The bitcoin network is slower than shit today. Just sayin! You could certainly be right but I did a transaction today from BTC Core to an Electrum wallet and it took 4 hours to get one confirmation. Normally like you say 30 minutes max.

Edit. Now in 15 minutes it has gotten 4 more.


[18 Points] iamdnm:

I have been through every market scam since SR1. It looks like the Middle Earth admin's are the Evolution admin's if this ends up being a full exit scam.

aha

For those who want to do business with a honest vendor who has a 2+ year of no scams, please visit my alphabay profile "greenmachiner": http://pwoah7foa6au2pul.onion/user.php?id=130412

is your goal to be included in every exit scam possible?


[10 Points] None:

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[10 Points] RosyPalm:

This is a good lesson to those who think that using escrow is the safest bet with markets: IT IS NOT. It has NEVER been.

Ya lost me dude. How does your inability to withdraw funds, FE amounts included, equate to an indictment of escrow?

Direct deals with me has always been the ONLY 100% guaranteed method to receive your product!

Um, I would think merely placing any order with you would ensure 100% attention to getting it properly sent out and delivered.

As for ME exiting.... Too early to tell. They've had wonky withdrawals since they opened the doors.


[7 Points] None:

Middle Earth appears to be down now, it just takes me to a splash screen that says "We are upgrading our security systems. Sorry for the inconvenience."


[7 Points] MiddleEarthFuckedMe:

Going Down Again for "Security issues" hold me guys.


[8 Points] Croatian_Biscuits:

GreenMachine has always been a bro, great comms,great product and just generally polite. Happy I FE'd on this one and all the previous ones.

If you do repeat business with a vendor FE for them, escrow doesn't keep you completely safe and your vendor will remember and appreciate it


[6 Points] AndThenHeSays4:

Dude, it's increased load on the network. I guarantee it.


[4 Points] None:

I fucking swear, the markets exit scam every time after I order. Evo, black bank and now this. God dammit man.


[3 Points] None:

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[5 Points] young_k:

At least that gay ass theme will be gone...


[3 Points] evil_olive23:

Hopefully all works out well for you GM and it really is blockchain issues. Either way I will likely switch to direct deals with you.


[3 Points] None:

I successfully withdrew today, took many hours but came through, was a large amount also......but I was the second person to comment on the vendor only thread mentioned so they may have pushed mine through for make confidence, but I will say I don't think it is exit scam but I can't asee the future


[3 Points] Combo_of_Characters:

I successfully moved about $10 from my ME wallet. I started the process last night and it took about fifteen hours for the coins to show up in my wallet.


[3 Points] leo-de-vinci:

I am a vendor on MEM and withdrew last night. It did not go to my account immediately, but I did receive it today. I am not sure why it took so long...perhaps the upgrades they were working on?

I had a problem with MEM withdrawal about a week and a half ago that remains unresolved, but have had two successful withdrawals since: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/3q60xp/mem_withdraw_problem/


[2 Points] mephestus:

I agree. Links please.

As far as Nucleus back when a lot of DNMs were being DDos'd they showed resiliency and competency and a near immediate solution


[2 Points] None:

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[2 Points] mulanketma:

ME Always looked sketch to me.

Best wishes to my fellow vendors :/


[2 Points] None:

First it was withdrawal issues, now it's "security issues." Take your pick, MEM, it can't be both. I mean technically it can, but it's not.

This is the perfect time to exit. Every user who had any bitcoin saved up is transfering as much as they can to the markets to spend while the price is to the moon.

I hope you guys don't lose too much, and I hope BV and Cali-Connection migrate to a different market.


[2 Points] HappySodomy:

Deposited yesterday night, and now come to see this. Nice first impression. BV why you no on abrax?


[2 Points] FurrehFaux:

Bitcoin has recently had a major surge in price, so an overloaded network could very well be the cause.


[2 Points] throwawaycuntfaggot:

I have to ask - How ashamed do people like you feel when your drug induced FUD posts turn out to be completely wrong? I have always wondered? I see people that are vendors or supposedly in the know making the funniest, retarded posts when they do too much of their wares and I am dying to know how it truly feels. I mean do you hide low a bit, come up with more bizarre scenarios ala bbmc because your brain is truly fried? I know none of you guys ever admit you were just plain wrong so I wonder how YOU feel? If it were me I would be so fucking ashamed that I would probably give up being a vendor and abandon my reddit alias. Because seriously, how can you possibly ever be respected again? In fact how can you even get past people simply laughing at you?


[1 Points] hyp3rmist:

I just put all my coins in 10 hours ago.


[1 Points] shortforwhat:

Shit just got real holmes.


[1 Points] EJackBoy420:

Is it really going down guys? I held onto faith during the Evo exit scam only to get fuckked over.

I just put in some coins early this morning. When should I start to worry? 1 day offline?


[1 Points] tightturtle:

i made an order on MEM late last night/this morning. hope im not screwed at least it was a small order.... anyone able to log in today?

edit: also im fairly new to this biz but if they were in fact exit scamming wouldn't they just go down? why would they spew some BS like "upgrading security systems" or blame BTC network?


[1 Points] None:

So, I guess it looks like Sauron just showed up at ME and said give me my ring back bitches! And then the fucker stole all the gold.


[1 Points] druggieslut:

Damn, its only been a day. Fucking agora used to flat out be down longer than that, every single week.


[1 Points] EJackBoy420:

MEM wallets - Has anyones coins disappeared?

Deposited early this morning , tracked the BTC address that I deposited into on ME and blockchain said this.

No. Transactions 6 Total Received 0.28757521 BTC Final Balance 0 BTC

Is this normal or should I start to worry, of course I didn't spead it yet. I don't understand the final balance to be zero.

11:04:17

Green arrow 0.28757521 into the address at 97 confirmations

17:26:38

Red arrow 0.28757521 withdraw to unknown address at 61 confirmations

Is it gone?

Final balance is zero. Is that normal?


[1 Points] Myodo:

this is why i stick with agora lol@being down voted

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[1 Points] upstatebars:

I had two orders in escrow on ME, both orders supposedly shipped but vendors wont get their get their money now?


[1 Points] upstatebars:

abraxas down too?


[1 Points] upstatebars:

thankfully i only had .006 btc on ME lol


[1 Points] rantcaseydnm:

With this tiny ass amount of downtime(during the busiest blockchain transaction period and bubble of the year) and while slow many of us have successfully gotten withdrawals that were initiated prior to downtime just chill the fuck out.

This is not the first time a market has had downtime like this nor will it be the last, pretty common. Also the evidence behind an exit scam is flaky at best. Alright now everybody, grab your pitchforks.


[1 Points] tonyeverready:

not a surprise from a market that doesn't let customers withdraw their own coins, calling it "suspicious activity."


[1 Points] eftresq:

Appears to still be down


[1 Points] None:


[0 Points] logic4drugs:

I've been around for years, you'll have to take my word on it

Classic appeal to authority. Just because you've "been around for years" I'm supposed to take your word for something? lol nice try


[-1 Points] jerzze18:

fuuuuck, ive only lost ~5 bucks with all these past scams...but this time...BELIZE YOU WILLL BUUUUUURNNNN!!!!


[-1 Points] lizardturtle:

FUCK first Agora now this, I need to find Cali again now :)) Thanks ME