AK47s used during Paris attacks allegedly bought on darknet

/edit: /u/ziz1 provided some english speaking news articles. Thank you!

http://www.rappler.com/world/regions/europe/114202-weapons-paris-attacks-bought-german-dealer

http://www.dw.com/en/report-evidence-paris-attack-weapons-shipped-from-germany/a-18879149


Hey Folks,

sorry for so few information. But according to this German news article on Bild+ four AK47 that were used during the Paris attacks were bought on the darknet. The whole artice is behind a paywall so maybe somebody with a Bild+ account can jump in and fill in all the blanks?

I am very curious about whats in the article for the sake of a discussion because I know lots of you people think that guns should be available to everybody. Well wouldnt that be a tragic assumption if the arcticle turns out to be true?


Comments


[361 Points] CocaineNose:

lets be realistic the only ak47 you can buy on any DNM with guarantee delivery and not a scam.. is the cannabis strain.


[151 Points] Danksalmon:

It's most likely bullshit but anything is possible. I don't think ISIS needs to go to the darknet to get some weapons.


[59 Points] eddyggg:

Articles make it sound like this was done on a market and I highly doubt that. If the darknet was involved it was probably just them using Tor to orchestrate the sale/communicate privately.


[45 Points] IllegalWeedAccount:

Bullshit.

There isn't a single legit arms vendor on the dark web ffs

all scammers.


[29 Points] None:

Well that has to be the first and only time that somebody has successfully bought guns here then.


[22 Points] None:

So you mean to tell me that , there have been multiple arrests relating towards firearms on the dark net. But when someone wants to kill 130 people they easily are able to get the weapons on the dark net? Something sounds fishy about this to me.


[14 Points] lordredvampire:

Government has been scapegoating the Darknet since its inception; if Government can't get the job done then false flag attack and on the aftermath: scapegoating someone or something to get the damn job done. IT WORKS.

I am not surprised at all. There's no evidence that this said AK-47 was exclusively bought on the DNM, of course, unless if the evidence was "planted" and fabricated - one of government's specialty. Take this article as a grain of salt. Nice try tho!


[11 Points] UnchainedSociety:

Why would they use a market? Getting them shipped into France is the tough part. Surely they had contacts that would send them weapons, so using a market would be completely unnecessary.


[7 Points] illadelphia_collins:

The weapons came from a neighborhood called Molenbeek, where it is notoriously easy to get weapons


[6 Points] None:

Story appears to change with time. 3 hours ago when I first saw and read about it they were saying it just was the internet and they got his e-mail. Now it went to dark web. Everyone knows Bild is a tabloid.

Also it was 2 AK-47 and 2 M70's.

I think it is complete bullshit. We will see. If true I would guess FBI, HSI and every other agency in the world will be after that market asap.

Apparently AB has a real arms dealer with real feedback. Does he sell AK-47's?

Your blaming a gun for those batshit crazy fucks? Ok say no more guns for ISIS. Can they still were their explosive vests?


[3 Points] ziz1:

http://www.rappler.com/world/regions/europe/114202-weapons-paris-attacks-bought-german-dealer

http://www.dw.com/en/report-evidence-paris-attack-weapons-shipped-from-germany/a-18879149


[5 Points] Cooney22:

Im going to call bullshit on this one. The Eurozone has open borders, they even stopped a car full of weapons and grenades. It is super easy to smuggle from the Balkans to the Eurozone and it is well believed that the weapons were purchased from arms dealers there. These guys had suicide vests, grenades and a ton of arms. I highly doubt it came from the DNM and most people can see that ISIS wouldnt need the DNM to buy guns. Even if they didnt come fromthe Balkans, Drugs and guns get smuggled back and forth from Mexico, I am sure you can get a few dozen Ak's and grenades outta Syria into Turkey and on its way to France. Isis has a shit ton of money and a shit ton of resources.


[5 Points] Gonadzilla:

Maybe communications were on the darknet, but not a darknet market. Nobody's gonna UPS an AK in Europe. There are plenty of weapons all over eastern europe leftover from the yugo wars and no problem getting them wherever they need to go. Anyway, soon they'll be able to print an AK at home, so who cares.


[4 Points] Fohaze:

If true, this is another example why gun control or bans don't work. Where there is a will there is a way for criminals.


[3 Points] SeenyorPush:

I highly doubt that this is the case. Unfortunately, it doesn't really matter if it is or it isn't. Once news articles like that start circling, its a witch hunt. It doesn't matter if they take it back later, or proves to be untrue, in many of the cases their minds are made up. Like if someone is charged with rape or molesting a child, but is found innocent, during trial or even years after imprisonment, everyone always sees them as a childmolester or rapist.

These kinds of articles are going to be used to crack down on privacy and DNMs. All I have been hearing on the talk shows is people explaining what PGP is and how "the terrorists use it to plan bombings". Even when I only heard that, I thought to myself "this is going to affect DNMs," but now? seems almost orchestrated to do so.

Let me be clear, not saying that they planned Paris or are only using it to attack DNMs, just think that they blame DNMs or the media is pushing people to blame the DNMs and they have to follow through. If there's an enemy you can't beat, you have to create another one that you can. Security theatre


[2 Points] youheree:

Enjoy yor "freedom" while it last guys. Big Brother is already in place. They are just waiting to drop the hammer. Basically waiting for their combo of false flag and manufactured terrorist to cause.the mass (stupid as fuck) populace to willing welcme BB with open arms. Those smug hastards are gonna make us ask for it, then laugh when we are perplexed as to our newfound complete and total slave status (well the few of us left alive, undissappeared/black bagged)


[2 Points] PapaErGud:

Im no expert, but for what i've heard it isn't that hard to get your hands on a AK in the more hardcore social housing areas. I mean if those dudes were just rotten apples before they went totally crazy, they might have made some connections to arms dealers. My source is french documentaries about crime, i don't know the creditability but i personally think the weapons comes from "local" arms dealers inside the country that rather than the internet.


[2 Points] 0035677616007CallMe:

What a load of bullshit tbh. The politicians and the media are taking full advantage of the situation to pass new laws and change public opinion, this is what this is.


[2 Points] aboutthednm:

Let me just wrap this ak47 in Christmas paper, slap some postage on it and off it goes. Happy trails.

Seems legit.


[2 Points] Revan343:

People sell weapons on the darknet? I thought they just sold visits from the FBI, listed as weapons.


[2 Points] throwHAYawayNEIGH:

No. No. No. The Baltic war left a stupid amount of unaccounted-for weapons, even explosives, yetthey probably overpaid on the darknet? No


[2 Points] IapetusTheGreat:

HAAA yeah right. Of course they have to cover up where these fucktards actually got the guns from


[2 Points] Caction:

You have to consider that the BILD Zeitung is the biggest shit being printed in Germany. It's fucked up yellow press and everybody here with a halfway decent intellect hates them like the plaque.


[1 Points] bobbiggs69:

bullshit.


[1 Points] technotardo:

Any private network that is not accessible to the public through Google or other popular search engines/browsers is considered "darknet". Chances are they didn't get the weapons at the local gun store in Paris but most likely not from one of your popular drug markets either. There almost definitely are darknet weapons traders that we are not aware of. If I can figure out how to buy drugs online (see username ) any 10 year old can. Thank god its not so easy to get weapons. I heard you can get a tank on Craigslist in eastern Europe.


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] droppingwhen:

Now how would they know that unless the FBI/CIA/or whoever sent it to them? If I get weed in the mail, get busted with it, do they know I bought that shit off the darknet? NOPE. I call bullshit, just fear mongering so the darknet loses public interest so the public doesn't care if LE follows the law or not when busting these markets.


[1 Points] AndThenHeSays4:

Blatant scaremongering IMHO


[1 Points] None:

shit, this is big. might have something to do with nucleus taking their weapons section down?


[1 Points] loveisrealnfa:

Anybody ever hear of that vendor? Dwguns?


[1 Points] strongbowfordinner:

Not 100% sure...but didn't they cone from a robbery at a French military base that resulted in a shit ton of arms going missing?? May be wrong but it rings a bell


[1 Points] Jackaroopz32:

Got ak47 don't mean the weed strain If Isis comes at me I'll put lead in his brain

Murica


[1 Points] thatskank:

who the fuck cares


[1 Points] R_O_F_L:

Yeah no shit. Where else would they get AKs in a country where you can't even buy a handgun legally? It's unfortunate that these sick fucks give the DNMs a bad name.


[1 Points] None:

Lets not pretend they are smart enough to figure out how to buy ak's on the darknet. This is just another example of the media being view whores.


[1 Points] None:

i haven't seen any ak's on the main darknet sites , yes there are pistols and stuff , but ive never seen an ak before maybe some of you have?


[1 Points] seems_legit_bro:

cool story.


[0 Points] None:

everyone always sees them as a childmolester or rapist.

I raped a cat the other day, it felt alright but do you know how small a cats pussy is? Man that shit was so nasty I didn't have any Trojans so I threw on some Mr clean gloves over my Mr Johnson and went to work on that kitten A WINK ;) /SARCASM