Posts criticizing Alphabay are being moderated. I would like an explanation.

A little over an hour ago, I made a post criticizing some of Alphabay's practices. It generated an active discussion and rose to the top of this subreddit rather quickly. My post was then removed by a moderator. I then created another thread and re-posted the original approximately half an hour ago, and it, too, was deleted. I will not post the original again at the time in hopes that it will prevent this topic from being removed. I would like to hear an explanation from the moderator who removed my post as to why it was removed, because it broke none of the subreddit's rules and it was clearly something that people were interested in discussing. IMO, it reflects very poorly on the moderators of this subreddit that it was removed and only makes me suspicious about the possible motives behind why it was removed to begin with. I'm not sure if these links are still active for anyone who wishes to view them, but here are the two posts I am referencing in which the content was removed: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/3s1fyl/would_you_sell_your_mothers_identitycc_info_for/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/3s1twf/warning_post_criticizing_alphabay_was_removed/


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[49 Points] MLP_is_my_OPSEC:

Posts criticizing Alphabay are being moderated.

Not true. There are two on the front page right now speculating about how AB might be paying off DDW due to their addition on the Abraxas entry on their market list.

However. Your submission is an obvious, pathetic attempt to stir up drama. Your entire submission history is just attacking /u/Trappy_Pandora and Alphabay. Your very first post was in a thread meant for recruiting from /u/groovybrewski's sad attempt to piss off the community. Your current account was also created right before that very comment.

Another comment of yours proves this even further.

This is the sub I got rejected from because my username was Crappy_PandoraPR? And it took you this long to realize you were dealing with a Downs kid? You sure that you are working with a full deck, as well?

So fuck off at your thinly-veiled excuse at creating a discussion.


[44 Points] None:

Yep, they even deleted the thread where you simply asked for why your original thread was deleted. Could it be any more clear that AlphaBay is paying off the mods at this point?


[17 Points] LedLevee:

Alpha bought off deep dot and now they're buying off DarkNetMarkets mods.

Money is involved in this sub and what we talk about here. It was bound to happen in the end.


[6 Points] Sumbohdie:

I'm starting to lose hope in this subreddit.

Mod(s): Did you think this wouldn't bring up questions? That you could delete select posts criticizing Alphabay and nobody would notice?

Maybe you're being paid enough not to care.


[5 Points] throwaway1882072:

Welcome to Reddit, where the moderators try to be the biggest fish they can, in their tiny pond.

Seriously though, that's what happens here. Moderators are that special kind of person with nothing else to do, so they put dozens of hours every week into a website for absolutely no reward.

Consider the mentality of someone with 20+ hours a week to spare. They aren't contributing to society, so they need to feel important. They do this by making up lots and lots of arbitrary rules, then enforcing them on others, all to seem important. It's totally contrary to the idea of this site, that users should use up and down votes to collectively decide what's worth seeing and saying, but as a company Reddit is getting free labor, so they'll let anything slide. What started out as a free way to help get rid of spam, has morphed into a site where some 4chan neckbeard deleted your post because he felt it wasn't relevant, or whatever else he tells himself at night.


[5 Points] mollymydarling:

Maybe one or more of the mods are paid by Alphabay? There is quite a lot of money to be made by Alphabay at this time, so posts like that can really mess things up for them.


[3 Points] Overmind_Rewind:

There is a moderation log that records all mod actions taken in the subreddit. The mods could provide all recent moderation activity easily. Ask for it.

***https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/3s1zee/posts_criticizing_alphabay_are_being_moderated_i/cwti8wa


[2 Points] legalizeNUKESANDcp:

THIRTY GRAND HAM SAMMICH THATS A COLD CUT


[2 Points] Lucyintehsky:

MODERATORER -lobali AutoModerator Theeconomist1 DareToHope

How the hell can there be ANY kind of doubt, that these people would take benefits from sources like DNM markets.

People in this subreddit are to fucking stupid. They can take all the payments they want. Its just sad to see it happen with people like "TRAPPY" so out in the open. Obv he is getting something out of hes troubles.


[1 Points] octomarvel:

While I'm not a fan of misinformation on this sub, I did find that post to be a bit more of a 'market complaint' post than a 'being a dick' post.

As far as I know, this was not a sanctioned shenanigan.

I'm not the only one that notices AB's aggressive advertising tactics. I feel that rule #3 should extend to independent MARKET advertising and if you look at post history, AB did that just the other day when they advertised no vendor bond for vendors coming from MEM n Abraxas.

I tend to side with the mods on most issues as they truly have the community and this sub being a source of information at heart.

But allowing AB threads like the aforementioned one don't make this an even playing field for all markets by a long shot.


[1 Points] Subs4Dayss:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AbraxasMarket/comments/3s2vdb/hackforums_member_alphabay_owner_is_paying_per/

Hackfourums member claims Alphabay operator offered him 8btc per day to keep abraxas offline... True or no?


[1 Points] budsnsuds:

The mods here are sketchy and on powertrips. I have seen this before, its very common, kind of like the old cliche of the middle school hall monitor. Bunch of losers in real life need to feel powerful and bully people on the internet. We need a new sub for DNMs in order to route around these scumbag moderators.


[1 Points] pallmallman12:

You know it still shows up in your history.


[1 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

This is a retroactive post, made after-the-fact

Half of the posts here were by TheEconomist1.

Now they are EconomistGone. There appears to have been considerable editing for posterity, it looks like groovybreski was arguing with nobody.

Readers in the future should note that the largest contributer to this thread, a moderator, has disowned his own comments by redaction.


[1 Points] DarkC0de101:

Join #OpAlpha and revolt against the new leaders of the market.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AlphaBay/comments/3zt5zy/update_teamdarkc0de_top_12_alphabay_carding/

They are hiding under a wave of "phishing" to steal money from the poorest of the poor...Boycott AB, Until they change the situation and stop robbing us.


[0 Points] BeBest12:

smh


[-1 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

I find they don't usually delete stuff.

They seem to manually demote stuff so its on page 3. I was looking to see where your posts were, when I found this fairly hot post. Only 7 hours old with 53 replies:-

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/3s24fs/mods_please_reban_trappy_he_continuously_breaks/

It was number 75! The posts around it are a week old with 3 replies.

We shouldn't jump to conclusions that alphabay have "got to" all of the moderators. give them time to get their own house in order and see which one is dismissed.

You really need to give it a few days. Only then can you blame the team as a whole, and only if nothing is done and no explanation is forthcoming.

You never know what drama is occurring. Maybe alphabay promised to stop DDosing the other markets if trappy_Pandora was unbanned and critical posts were demoted to the bottom of page 6.


[-1 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

With respect, there is no Reddit rule which says that moderators HAVE to be unpaid. There is no "declaration of Interests" register on this subreddit, nor any rule which says they have to declare how many roubles alphabay pay them.

My financial interests are implicit in my name. I could review my own meth here legitimately, because you would know that I may be biased, and treat the review accordingly.

This is an INTERNATIONAL forum, not American. This isn't the 1950s and McCartheyism. If trappy_pandora wants to work against the interest of American marketplaces for roubles, he's not committing treason against me. I'm British.

You saw what happened to me when this sub changed hands and I attempted to deduce the motive, and none of you exactly weighed in on my side.

The mods don't claim to be impartial, any one or all of them could voluntarily declare their financial interests, then they can earn as much money as they like.

But they can anyway. YOU are the one Making assumptions that they should have no financial interests.

That's why I don't look in my reddit messages and do everything in public. Communist Russia may own deepdotweb, Trappy_Pandora and this sub, there is no law against being "UnAmerican".

If you don't check your mail, you don't get secret offers. But that's just how I roll. Its a bit late for you all to start complaining and speculating about who owns the moderators. I think the answer is "not you, by the looks of iit".

They've argued with YOU, not what you're saying. They don't have to say, and they've chosen not to say. I've been burned speculating. People outside of their circle have felt the need to organise into a fight club, and none of us (mods included) can say that we didn't see this mess coming.

Overall, "messy" means "free", that should reassure you. They take a light touch approach to trolling, resulting in a nasty atmosphere, but would you want MORE censorship? Because if you give up the freedom to troll businesses like mine or alphabay's, you give up your freedom of speech.

Russian and British businesses have just as much right to be here and to answer back, and its unfair to assume that American moderators have to work for American interests unless you stick your hand in your pocket and get some dollars out.


[-2 Points] booeyspread:

FUD