Vendor Frosties selling suspected methamphetamine/amphetamine as MDMA

I bought a gram this about 3 months ago for a test, but have not had the opportunity to try it out until today.

To start off with, the product is very brown. Almost like big chunks of brown sugar. That in itself is not a red flag, but it also has no real smell, definitely none of the characteristic aniseed/liqourice smell of MDMA.

I decided to test it with some marquis reagent as I was suspicious, you can see the results here.

As you can see, it is a deep red. That is not a positive for MDMA, it's either amphetamine or methamphetamine.

I recommend no-one buy from this vendor again. As a community we should make it clear that misselling drugs is absolutely not tolerated.

Edit: I should also mention that on Evolution this guy had many, many pieces of positive reviews, clearly from people who did not test their stuff. Many had given a 5* review without even having tried the product!

Please, please testkit your drugs every time, if in doubt you can send samples to Energy Control, Wedinos or Ecstasydata, and if you do find product which is contaminated, adulterated or just plain bunk report it! Other people are depending on you.

A close-up picture of the product.

A list of testkit sources.


Comments


[16 Points] None:

My friend got send Methylone by him a couple months back and he refunded him, I did post something but my friend asked me to take it down because he got refunded.


[8 Points] ebullientpostulates:

characteristic aniseed/liqourice smell of MDMA.

I could be wrong, but any smell present in MDMA would arise from traces of Safrole, the initial precursor used in it's synthesis, and thus not a useful indicator of anything other than an impurity, and shoddy synthetic workup. I still can't understand why such impure brown/grey product is the only thing commercially available.


[5 Points] Tussthethief:

This is good, but do you mind testing some sugar or salt as a constant to make sure your kit is working properly?

I've seen too many situations where people cry "NOT X DRUG I ORDERED" And it turns out their test kit is like 3 years old.


[3 Points] kNOwagora:

same shit soldier has


[3 Points] fishlr:

Also, how old was your test kit?


[3 Points] None:

This guy has also been known to send methylone out as MDMA in the past, so I wouldn't be surprised if he has something else now. At the very least it's a cut, although I would prefer to use other reagents or even sending in a sample for testing just to figure out what's up. And yeah, it's pretty sad that many reviews are from people who don't even try the product (let alone testkit it), or take some and "roll super hard on dem dank crystals bro" so they leave 5/5.

For future reference, even if this isn't MDMA, physical characteristics are a terrible way to try and identify a chemical. MDMA is an odorless chemical and I've gotten more MDMA without a smell than I've gotten MDMA with one. MDMA can definitely form crystals like that too, and I wouldn't be surprised if it also could take on that color.


[3 Points] PM_ME_VAGINA_PICS:

I don't know who started this rumor that meth or amps is ever sold as molly, but they're active at just completely different dosages.


[2 Points] None:

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[2 Points] fishlr:

That stuff looks dirrty as hell. I wouldn't be comfortable consuming that before either washing it or testing it...


[1 Points] None:

Cross post this to /r/dnmavengers


[1 Points] ModernApothecary:

if you have a mandelin reagent handy you can differentiate between meth and amp but that doesn't seem necessary since we know it was sold as MDMA and is most definitely not containing MDMA. MDMA is the strongest coloured reaction on the marquis list, and Bunk Police say on their website that stronger colours out-react eachother, so if a product contained meth and mdma it would likely still appear dark purple to black. This did not, so likely (not for sure, just my train of thought, correct me if I'm wrong) not even a lick of mdma in there.


[1 Points] TrippingWithBlake:

It looks like he is selling what ever he is getting his hands on. This was my review http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/2qxair/vendor_review_frosties2014_mdma_scammer/


[1 Points] None:

It would have been so much better if he was a vendor called Meth that was selling Frosties breakfast cereal that turned out to be MDMA.


[1 Points] None:

Is meth all that much cheaper than MDMA? I thought it was pretty expensive.


[1 Points] therealqd:

My friend was sold something similar as Ethylone that ended up testing red. I never heard if he tried it or just dumped it.


[1 Points] temporaryaccount420:

Always test with at least a Marquis reagent test, I do it every time. If it ain't black it ain't jack.


[1 Points] gradient_x:

You really need more than one reagent to test for MDMA ... if it's that dark, you should have some anise smell to it.

https://dancesafe.org/product/coomplete-adulterant-screening-kit/


[1 Points] asdf5454:

His username is frosties.

Frosty = Ice

Ice = Meth


[-2 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

So...you havent tried it to see what it is?

Why would a vendor send meth when youve only paid for MDMA?

Just get it down yer. A safe mdma dose is safe for all those 3 compounds.

Remembee that mdma is methamphetamine with a methylenedioxy bridge tacked on. All your reagent test does is smash it into fragments whi h form different coloured sludges and gunks.

All 3 are fun wakey wakey drugs