Read this before choosing a market (both vendors and buyers)

With all of the recent shit that has went down and has effectively decimated the dnm community, I feel like this community is in need of some advice to help them prevent making mistakes which keep enabling feds and thieves to run off with their coins.

When selecting a marketplace, the first most important factor is longevity. If a market has been around for years, it shows that the staff is somewhat competent. This shows that the staff not only has enough technical knowledge to have prevented destruction at the hands of random hackers for long periods of time, but that the staff is also dedicated to running the marketplace and will not simply disappear after a few months of operation.

The second most important factor is the popularity of the marketplace. If a marketplace has been popular for several years, it shows that it is able to hold up to heavy scrutiny, and also makes it very unlikely that they'll decide to run off with your coins in the small window available to them. There is nothing you can do if a market that has been running for years suddenly decides to fuck everyone and disappear, but if the market has been popular for a long period of time it's very unlikely that the market will close in the few weeks that you are relying on it. If you are a vendor that always has a decent amount of coin in escrow, and do not use something like proper multisig, you must realize that eventually the market will fuck you, prepare accordingly.

The third most important factor is the security of the marketplace. It is inevitable that some flaws WILL be found. With this in mind, try to find any publicly disclosed vulnerabilities. Not all vulnerabilities are created equal. If it's a simple overlook like alphabay's api message enumeration vulnerability, it's not a big deal. If the vulnerability is something involving not sanitizing inputs correctly enabling sqli or rce, that is a big fucking deal and you should carefully consider using the marketplace as that can indicate some serious architectural problems. If a marketplace ever has coins stolen from it, in any way that is the fault of the marketplace, DO NOT USE IT HOLY SHIT. I honestly cant believe that people were stupid enough to use traderoute after that was disclosed.

There is much more to consider before choosing a marketplace than these three factors I've listed here, but if you consider every marketplace through the eyes of these three concepts, you will minimize your chances of getting fucked. Do not trust new markets to hold your coins, unless you are willing to lose them. Do not trust unused and unpopular markets to hold your coins, unless you are willing to lose them. Do not trust markets that are ran by incompetent staff with no understanding of security to hold your coins, unless you are willing to lose them.

And finally, another important thing to remember that involves points #1 and #2, DO NOT FALL FOR THE SHILLING OF NEW MARKETPLACES ON THIS FORUM. Do not trust ANY market recommendations that are for anything but the current behemoths. Alphabay, or in today's time dream, has no reason to shill. Therefore you will not find people pushing the most viable markets to use in posts and comments, they will always attempt to push their own underdog marketplaces.

I have not covered every single thing you should consider before choosing a marketplace, I don't want to write some fucking 200 page essay, but if you follow this advice you will minimize your risk of being fucked over by market admins.

Tl;dr: If you want to minimize your odds of getting fucked over, consider the following: #1 Longevity, #2 Popularity, #3 Security


Comments


[14 Points] FreshestNuts:

Didn't even bother to read, if you can't safely buy drugs at this point you shouldn't be on the darknet. ALL THE INFO YOU NEED is literally listed at the top of page in the dnm Noob section. If people can't read and figure out shit they deserve to be arrested imo.


[5 Points] publiusTM:

The proper solution to getting "Drugs by Mail"tm is to:

1) Find your plugs by all means necessary, such as the fine means laid out by the OP, or many other suggestions here on Reddit and other places.

2) Set up alt channels of secure communications and operational security. (email, wickr, jabber+otr, smoke signals, extortion, drops, whatever-the-fuck).

3) Get your shit away from all third parties. Including your referring friends, and especially "fam", if they don't need to fucking know. This is not a popularity contest as much as a safety protocol. Dickpics are cool, though.

4) Resell your plugs "gear" (you dnm og yet?) to your local "fam" and stay high for free, at least. Some of you actually pay back your student loans if you don't get caught.

Anyone in the game for real is targeting or targeted for DD.

Anyone else is not high value. IE, low hanging fruit.

Peace, look for our sales coming soon on OB2, fam. For real.


[5 Points] dnmthrowawayobvious:

what the hell is this shit. This isn't amazon bro


[2 Points] basjin:

When selecting a marketplace, the first most important factor is longevity. If a market has been around for years, it shows that the staff is somewhat competent.

well, what happened to ab? what about speedy's (dream) paranoia which gets worse every week?

second point is ok to me.

third point is ok aswell, but you forgot about AB's message leak and their fucked up wallets, giving free coins and removing coins from people wallets, for sure they have fixed most of the issues usually, but someone had to do that with his bare hands. this is also not a good sign.

nothing to add to your last point.


[1 Points] randguy7:

FE to whoever you trust and if the market goes your trades still come through


[1 Points] wombat2combat:

also check out this please https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarketsNoobs/wiki/bible/buyer/dnm/choosingmarket

If it's a simple overlook like alphabay's api message enumeration vulnerability, it's not a big deal

I would argue that it is the opposite: if the developer was too incompetent to even check that only the user can see his own messages, then it says a lot about the other parts of the market [and the opsec of the staff as we have seen].


[1 Points] unkn0wnklone:

Tldr but Longevity is irrelevant at this point. Popularity just makes them a target to let and phishers. Security should be numero Uno.

If you've made it this far and haven't read noobs or the oldskool dnmbible at the least scanned through jus stay off dnm


[0 Points] HODLLLLLLLLLL:

Get over yourself.

Didn't read it but this a bible for a reason. Don't listen to some random guy