Hansa Honeypot and the 15 minute BTC transfer time limit on orders. Was this a function implemented before or after the Jun 20 seizure?

TL;DR: Before Hansa was shut down, I noticed a note in their purchasing instructions informing buyers that after pressing the purchase button, they would only have 15 minutes to transfer their BTC. This seemed odd and bogus to me since that sort of deadline would make tumbling between Darknet Wallet > DNM virtually impossible, so i'm wondering if anybody remembers whehter the 15 minute deadline note was always a part of the instructions or if it was added later on and when? The point is, if this "15 minute" nonsense was an implementation of they honeypot, we may want to be wary of any DNM designatiing time limits/deadlines that make tumbling between a Darknet Wallet and the DNM difficult or impossible.

I was just thinking about Hansa and how I almost made a purchase on there following the shut down of Alphabay (sometime between jul 5 - july 15 I guess). One thing stopped me, which I almost ignored, was the payment method on their site.

I can't remember exactly how it worked, but in a nutshell, as opposed to having a wallet on hansa which was used to make purchases, Hansa just had you transfer the coin directly from whatever wallet you currently had the coin in directly to the vendor. The rub, according to the purchase instructions on the site, was that in order to gurantee your purchase, the coin must be transfered from your wallet to the vendor wallet within 15 minutes. I remember thinking "wait, so how am I supposed to tumble my coin?"

Most of us know the old adage Clearnet wallet > darknet wallet > Helix > DNM

99.9% of the time, that Darknet wallet > Helix > DNM Wallet - process is going to take far more than 15 minutes.

Unsure how I felt about that, I told myself I'd look more into this before purchasing, got sidetracked and kind of forgot about it until I heard about the honeypot

So, being that I had never visitied Hansa before July (or june 20th for that matter) what I'm wondering is when did Hansa add the 15 minute deadline to the instructions? If it so happens that the instructions have been that way since long before June 20th, I suppose that means this post may be kind of pointless (unless the honeypot actually began long before LE told the public it did, which is entirely possible I suppose).

Otherwise, it could be quite likely LE added the instruction function of the honeypot in order to manipulate users into skipping the tumbler via implementation of some bogus deadline". If I had made that purchase, skipping the Helix altogether in order to ensure I made the 15 minute deadline, my process would have been Clearnet Wallet > Darknet Wallet > Hansa Vendor Wallet

Unless I'm missing something, this would almost undoubtedly have created an inextricable link between the btc purchase i made through DNM, the original source of that BTC and my identity.

I'd wager the majority of users here exhibit btc purchasing habits on occasion that are less than pristine. The immaculate conception of btc is a complicated and time consuming process and unfortunately, time isn't a luxury a lot of people have when it comes to certain drugs. I'm not trying to justify sloppy purchasing habits, in fact, I think if anything this may reinforce the importance of finding a totally clean and reliable system through which to purchase your coin. If all else fails, that last line of defense, immaculate conception, may be the only step keeping you safe. Divine Intervention > Immaculate Conception:

If I have not already made a complete ass of myself in this post, if it is true that LE made a concerted effort in their investigation ato circumvent the use of BTC tumblers, I believe that may be something of a testament to the effectiveness of tumblers overall. I hear the occasional allegation that the the tumblers are outdated and useless now, I always figured it could be possible, but better safe than sorry, the very people spreading that rumor, by the way, may just be LE in disguise.


Comments


[6 Points] Zorill:

It was always implemented. And you could always just tumble before making an order???


[2 Points] TheSM0KER:

Why tumble directly to a market? I always tumble to another electrum wallet.....and then to the market.


[1 Points] Sourcery_Market:

Exchange/LBC/Whatever -> Clearnet Wallet -> Tumble Method -> Your "dirty/darknet" wallet -> Deposit Address for market

You would be best to tumble coins to a wallet before going to the market in this scenario so that you can ensure you can deposit the coin w/in the time frame.