ADD/focus - Replacing amp/adderall with Meth - review and thoughts

This turned out way longer than planned. Pro-tip: Don't snort meth and then start typing.

EDIT: edited to clarify some areas.

tl;dr - Warning that Hexen(Ethyl-hexedrone) will completely fuck your amp/meth tolerance, but tolerance seems to go back to what it was before you did the hexen after only about one week. Yes, you can use meth to replace amp for add/focus/study/energy, but it is stronger and seems much easier to fuck up on and take for fun and really fuck your tolerance for daily use, so if you do it be very cautious and always keep in mind why you're personally using it and what you want to accomplish with it.

Summary: I ran out of amp on short notice, ordered meth as a filler until more amp lands. Going to try to explain my own experience and use of Amp and then a comparison after 5 days of substituting meth.

I've been taking amp fairly medicinally most days for the last 2+ years. Sometimes it's a huge pain in the ass to get good quality amp on the DN, so more than once I've thought about testing meth as a replacement since it's much easier to get in the US and finally ended up getting the meth on Monday. I've give you a rough rundown of my amp use and then thoughts on meth.

From daily amp use at 80mg(40@6am/40@noon): I rarely feel any sort of euphoria from it any more, but sometimes the rush of energy and want to keep it going still ends up with me skipping sleep and staying up 40-50 hours. I rarely do it, but when I'm going to be off of work or have a very light day it's definitely still tempting sometimes... maybe once a month, probably less. I actually have ADD, so for the most part I try to keep a medicinal mindset, and amp helps me stay focused and energetic. If I run out I go through withdrawal, but it only lasts 3-4 days and while I feel drained it isn't anything awful and l-tyrosine can usually pick me up on those days and make them fine. I've seen a lot of people say that longer term amphetamine/adderall use seems to stunt emotions and such, but I haven't had any changes like that. I sleep 7-8 hours per night, eat regularly, and take a multivitamin along with b-complex, d, and magnesium daily.

My dose per day is usually very steady, but I fucked up the other week: I'd heard Hexen was something like cocaine, so decided to test with a 3g order over a 5 day work break. I found out that Hexen makes me very compulsive with redosing, to the point where I used the entire 3g over 4 days. It had me wired, so I didn't touch my amp. Two days after when it was time to head back to work I took my 40mg of amp I got nothing out of it. Turns out Hexen also massively fucks amphetamine tolerance. That week I felt completely drained and amp was barely touching it, I ended up taking ~250mg/day to feel halfway alive, and I burned through my on hand amp. This was shit planning on many levels. I'd underestimated the compulsiveness of Hexen and gave in to taking too much amp to get me through the work week. Being suddenly out of amp, I decided to make a quick domestic meth order to hold me over until my amp order shows up in ~2 weeks. After the Hexen binge, I ran through my amp in 5 days, and then had nothing for 4 days when the meth arrived.

So, now to the meth. I'd read that meth is 3-10x as potent as amp depending on purity, so I took a 15mg test dose intranasally. Within 2 minutes it felt close to my normal amp dose but with the euphoria I haven't felt in ages. "Wow, this stuff is nice," I stupidly thought "I wonder how much stronger 40mg would feel vs amp." So, of course, I took another 40mg. ... don't judge me. I fucking love drugs. They're fantastic. You'd have tried more too.

The euphoria lasted 4+ hours, and motivated me to get things done very strongly, like amp used to when I first started it. I'm sure I seemed a bit more speedy than normal, but I think at that dose I kept it from being very noticeable. Unfortunately, I'd taken my dose around 1pm when the mail arrived. With amp, I can sleep 6 hours after a dose, but I found out that meth really does last longer, and I didn't end up sleeping that night. After finding out how long the meth lasts, I decided to stick to one dose when I wake up and limit it to 20mg. Taking the meth at 6am I don't start to actually feel tired until around 7pm, but am asleep with no trouble by 10pm. Overall, 20mg of meth every morning has effectively replaced two daily 40mg doses of amp, and so far the extra euphoria/motivation vs amp has been there daily.

The downside is that I definitely feel more pull to redose on the meth. After that first time I haven't done it, but the euphoria is nice and the pull to take more is there in the background. With amp I felt this at first, but it quickly went away and made stable daily dosing much easier. I'm assuming the same thing will happen, the euphoria will fade after taking the meth for a while and when that happens it will likely get easier to control and regulate. Regardless of that, there's definitely an order of magnitude of difference between amp and meth. They're very similar, but I hadn't really expected the meth to be as much stronger as it is. The pull to redose is stronger, the euphoria is greater, the effects last longer, and I'm sure the withdrawals will be much less easy. It's definitely something I would hesitate to recommend to anyone as an add/adderall replacement. Regular amp handles those needs very well, and honestly amp is risky and addictive enough. Moving to meth can mean reducing dose and number of daily doses, but since the cost of meth is usually higher than amp it wouldn't really translate to any kind of savings and definitely comes with increased risk for abuse, addiction, and rubbing your dick off.

Personally, I think I'm going to keep both amp and meth on hand and switch between the two for a while. I've gelcapped the meth at 10mg/pill and will only be using oral RoA to keep is safer and more medicinally focused. I see the risks, but it seems interesting to compare the differences of the two at daily therapeutic doses.


Comments


[8 Points] RIP_Meth_9000:

Seems legit.....Meth is life!!!!!! Just don't do meth & watch midget porn....Its will fuck your life up ;-)


[2 Points] 1percentof1:

That was an interesting read. I still think it's too risky though.


[2 Points] None:

I use meth to treat my ADD. Tolerance builds very quickly and the shit is dirt cheap so you have to be really careful. I'm up to about .25 gram/day and derive no recreational effects from it. I take it in five .05 gram dosages throughout the day. I am using it to get through grad school. I use about ten different supplements, eat a lot of leafy greens, hydrate, sleep and eat normally, etc. I'm kind of pissed at myself for letting my tolerance get so high, but the amount I use hasn't been a financial burden so on I continue.


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] MollieIsYourFriend:

I read your post and you really add a whole new dimension to the idea of "rubbing one out" so that now I will exhibit more caution as to not actually "rub my dick off", which I admit is a genuinely frightening prospect.