Seemingly foolproof way for IRL trades, looking for feedback or anything that could help.

There are QR codes put as a sticker were ever people or vendors want. Then people use an encrypted secure scanner to scan the code and deposit bitcoin to the wallet the qr code gives. Then they get a IRC chatroom or something that gives them the unique coordinates and info to find the dead drop pack they bought that's already pre set by vendors after the vendor sees coins in wallet all locally. There could also be a trusted vendor pgp and qr code verification to avoid LE setting up fake qr codes. All they could do is monitor them, but taking a qr code because your curious seems like a real stretch for probable cause. This could also be used for just everyday exchanges where the seller and buyer want no connection. Also coins can be tumbled so if vendor wallet is busted they cant get you through blockchain. People could put them hidden in headshops, or on a trail in the woods anywhere really except places where LE could catch on fast. There could even be a questionnaire to make it look inconspicuous and to deter drug war advocates. If LE bought one and tried to set someone else up it wouldnt work because he would never resell the coordinates or else he wont last and make money and he would have no rep. video evidence can be submitted at 3rd party monitored locations for larger transactions encase of scam and the funds will be returned to buyer from a multisig wallet. also the qr code can bring up 3rd party website like grams for vendor rep.


Comments


[5 Points] DrQuarters_:

Its far too early on a Tuesday to be hitting the pipe that hard.


[1 Points] powerman15:

First of all, they're called drug dealers in real life. Not vendors.

Second of all, this is far from being fool proof. Dealers account can be seized and flipped.


[1 Points] WhatsInAName69:

why would anyone go to all the trouble though? there's much easier ways to do business


[1 Points] ThrowAwayEatPuzzy:

Anyone going to all that trouble probably wouldnt be selling drugs. Too much effort required to sell drugs that way. Theirs easier, and more efficient ways to do business IRL.


[1 Points] SpaceExplora:

Was this idea brought on by drugs? I think I've had that weed before.


[1 Points] Obama4096:

It is very easy to be paranoid enough. It is very hard to be paranoid enough while being efficient. That seems to be your problem.

I was once talking to a guy who sells a lot of drugs. I was telling him that I never let my client know where exactly the deal is until I am already there doing counter surveillance with the product securely stashed on site without my finger prints on it.

He told me don't go places. Learn to stay somewhere.

If you're doing small deals do it the way I said I was doing it. Make sure you are there, not in possession, watching for a sting operation being set up. If you're doing bulk deals, make a simple system that works at one location where you don't have to do very much moving.

This reduces your digital finger print from GPS, keeps you from driving around with drugs all the time, and if you are moving bulk you shouldn't be dealing with more than three people anyways. You should also be dealing with people you can trust and not bring more to a deal than you can afford to lose anyways. So just have a consistent dead drop for each client that you use only in the dead of night. Make it on a path that you use for legitimate reasons. That way you can just 'find the money' if you are ever questioned.

As for communication I recommend an off shore email account that you check daily in a secure way. That is as close to fool proof that you will find and if you're looking for fool proof you're in the wrong business.

Live in a clean house.


[1 Points] zero-sum_game:

I actually like this idea and wrote a paper similar to this idea for a class that was all about OPSEC. Some issues to point out, there are some usability issue as people have pointed out. QR codes can be used as a entry point for malware, it can easily redirect to a malicious site set by an advisory that caches wind. Second anyone can scan it and that increases exposure, it needs to be hidden, optionally you could try and retrieve it but fuck that.

An idea that is easier would be to find lockers and place your delivery in it with a good combination lock. Wait a good amount of time before you sell the combination/location to a client. Longer the better, reduce chance of someone recognizing you and if any CCTV are present they may have been erased. Adversaries has resource constraints too.