All you high schoolers on here : Don't jump the gun!

And hell yea, we know your there. Its way more obvious than you may think. Now, the best way to be a teen on these things, is to stay silent. Its called lurking. You observe this sub for maybe 6 months, just to see what exactly can happen in the dark world in that time. Which will probably be a lot of shit. That just how it is now a'days. But lurk on here. Don't post. Let others post for you, and learn the ways of the wize, like pgp... don't ever skip it. That is the only thing keeping you safe. Anyone who hasnt used it, is most likely to become a target for LE in the future. Now, the mindset of LE now, is to recover as much as possible, get the culps later. Well guess what? That recovery part, is where PGP saves your ass. Think about it like this. To stay protected from the cold, you wear mutliple layers of clothing. To stay protected from LE, use multiple layers of security. That what gets them. Thats the time waster. So if you really wanted to fuck with LE, you could encrypt a PGP encrypted message again, with pgp! Thats double layers. Double time. 1/2 the casualties. Oh and if you think there is a protection technology that will never be cracked by LE, your stupid. Everyone, and holy shit, I mean everyone who has been here since 2011 will tell you, we never even guessed that the FBI was trying. We all guessed LE was too stupid, and thought the tor technology too superior. Well, LE will crack it. No matter what it is, they can do it. Final verdict, you're never going to get away with everything. But you high schoolers got too fuckin much shit to experience before you get thrown in jail for conspiracy or some shit. Basically, don't get your self into something you can't get out of. Stay safe. AND GO THE FUCK TO CLASS!


Comments


[28 Points] sleepybeard:

  1. Encrypting a message with the same public key twice doesn't actually add security as far as I'm aware. If the private key was, through some amazing technology, factored from the public key, then they could decrypt the second layer of encryption with no added effort.

  2. Yes, everybody knew LE was trying to get the markets taken down, and yes, everybody knew LE was trying to break encryption algorithms such as RSA and PGP, and yes, everybody knows LE is smart. I'm sort of amazed you didn't realize these things.

And finally OP, you should really stop condescending to people in this sub. When I was in high school I had a pretty full understanding of how PGP worked, and I'm sure there are 30-something year olds on here who still don't understand it at all. Addressing "high schoolers" as a high risk group and assuming none of them know anything is silly.


[24 Points] None:

I'll be the first to say it, I'm a high schooler who has placed a few orders. I always use PGP and take measures to protect myself, but I admit I am no expert and should learn more. My friends often ask me to teach them how to order off dark markets. I refuse because if they can't figure it out themselves then they don't have the ability to do it at all. Multiple people who I consider slightly stupid have asked me how to do it. One kid asked if it was Silk Road .com... Most high schoolers, and I'm not saying I'm not included, are just too lazy and dumb to figure it out properly and protect themselves.


[23 Points] StuffyKnows2Much:

If you're in high school, please don't order traceable drugs to your parents' house. They don't want no part of this shit.


[15 Points] LongLiveThe_King:

You're making it sound worse than it is. You're making it sound like you will be thrown in jail and that is destiny. No one gives a shit about a highschool kid ordering some drugs with his birthday money. Use all the security available to you, do your research and trust your intuition.

Edit: Of course underplaying the consequences is dangerous, but so is exaggerating them.


[13 Points] mykhathasnotail:

This is pretentious. Why talk specifically about teenagers, as opposed to inexperienced people in general? I'm sure there are teenagers with more experience than some adults.


[11 Points] None:

"Everyone is going to get caught."

Lol


[7 Points] over9000pies:

So, are you saying that everyone who uses dark markets will eventually get caught? That's cheery...


[3 Points] None:

I'm in high school and have placed more than 15 orders so far. Every transaction has gone smoothly, no encounters with LE, and I take every precaution to protect myself. You're overexaggerating, OP.


[2 Points] rbryanm:

deleted...never intended comments displayed in public searches like google, etc


[2 Points] None:

poor delivery; good intentions, though


[2 Points] TacoBurrito23:

LE?


[2 Points] aLcSiDd:

Bet's OP is a SR in high school.

Freshman in college at best.

hehehe


[2 Points] allfateverything:

Just letting you know that you're on a list for using high school and gun in the same post.


[2 Points] None:

What? People knew from the very beginning that the FBI and other government agencies have been researching Tor and trying to attack online black markets. Do you seriously think law enforcement is dumb? People working in the FBI, NSA, etc. Are extremely intelligent, go look up some of the history on the NSA and see how far ahead of the public they've been.


[2 Points] BlackBroker:

I feel like OP really isn't giving high schoolers enough credit. Sure in my school I hear about kids blabbing on how they got the best drugs on the silk road and all that (even now that SR has been shut down for ~5 months) but some of us actually know what were doing. Me and a couple of my close friends have been using these marketplaces for quite some time - since the original SR was the only market around and BTC was under a dollar a piece. We know what were doing (or we like to think so). We use PGP, VPNs, launder our coins, run virtual machines that route everything through tor, mail to UPS boxes not our homes, and keep everything on the down low in school. I may even go as far as to say we have more knowledge about what were doing than some of the older people coming into this community, especially those with no background. Perhaps this post shouldn't be aimed at high schoolers but rather any person who is new to the dark net market community.

Aside from that highschoolers/newbies: Do use all necessary precautions (launder BTC, use PGP, etc) and spend a lot of time on reddit and doing research on the dark net markets, tor, etc before considering using one of these markets as you may be in for a surprise.


[2 Points] roshanhasfallen:

Something tells me that by the time LE can crack PGP the statue of limitations on whatever you're doing right now will probably be up


[2 Points] None:

You have no clue what you're talking about do you lol

Edit: you should take your own advice, give it another 8-10 months


[1 Points] None:

Confirmed high schooler, never used this I have friends who have but I've kept my interest in it to myself. I have a bunch of questions and have no idea how to begin to use this safely, so I haven't tried.


[1 Points] vwermisso:

Can we have a thread where we encourage teenagers to move out of their parents' house first?


[1 Points] brit08:

I'm new to the whole dark net thing, but I've done some research and OP has raised a point even if it is condescending I nature. I use PGP, but can anyone else advice on some other measures or precautions it would be worth taking? Also, who is LE? Not knowing made OPs post an informative but confusing read!


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] Lobster_Man:

Something which is in my opinion very important, and I know many people don't want to hear it, but the younger you are, the fewer substances you should consider using. When your brain is still young and developing, 'shit is fucked up' with your head already (due to puberty, hormones, naturally regulating/balancing levels of neurotransmitters, adapting to the stresses of the ever-approaching "adult life")...the last thing your brain needs to is introduce (or worse, to become dependent on) strong external psychoactive substances.

Weed is probably safe to use once in a while, same with psychedelics or even maybe opioids, but for your own sake, you probably should not be using things daily if you are under 18 (maybe even 20/21...). This has nothing to do with a legal or even moral standpoint, but comes from a purely practical and physiological viewpoint...


[0 Points] phlezk:

lol


[0 Points] Nutsnbolts12345:

I'm 17 and have placed plenty of orders. It isn't hard to be safe and if someone manages to get fucked over or arrested when ordering from one of these markets It would probably would have happened regardless of their age. This subreddit has more drama on a daily basis than any high school I've seen. There is stuff to learn from lurking here but it's mostly just people letting their psychosis get the best of them by ranting about LE and over dramatizing shit. Kinda like you are now.

Also, I doubt there are as many people here that are my age as you think. It's pretty hard to get BTC as a teenager.


[0 Points] None:

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[0 Points] holdonnowwhat:

Hey curiosity: "Not sure if this is worst or best. Last week I ordered some MDMA from a reputable vendor on SR. Well being a high schooler I wasn't sure where to ship it. My friends assured me that one of my friends mom was never home and NEVER checked the mail. Well I get a test yesterday from her mother asking if I ordered some rocks to her house. So I tell her that yes I ordered bath crystals for sore muscles. She tells me her coworker told her it was ecstasy. I say lol definitely not and ask when I can pick it up. She said that evening I could when she got home from work. So at 6 pm last night she calls me saying she's just really weirded out by this whole thing and that she called the company the vendor disguised it as and they didn't sell that product and they NEVER packaged it like that. I said that was weird but I ordered bath crystals. She freaked out about how she's had a terrible day stressing about it and doesn't want us getting into drugs. We talk about how I'm planning on going to medical school so I would never do drugs. She asks for the receipt in my email and I tell her I'll look for it. Later I tell her I deleted it and she says she wishes I had it. When I get to her she shows me the packaging. She is literally holding a large quantity of mdma rocks in her hands, sniffs it and says it smells good, puts it back in the container, hands it to me and says it's very weird. I then left with it. Most terrifying day of my life. I still cannot believe I got away with it. After looking at it, it definitely looks like mdma and nothing else."

Doesn't seem like you should be here little girl. Your post history is quite revealing, broke some big rules, your post shows you're from Denver, and srsly? You deserve to get caught after the situation I pasted above. Technology like pgp and tor can only protect so much, you are not invincible.