Valuable information on Kimble and Verto, Evolution Source Code, SQL Dump

Evo Admin Backend set-up on local server from March 17th Image http://infotombjhy7tcrg.onion/66fhf.jpg http://infotombjhy7tcrg.onion/p6dt9.jpg

Chat log from the past few hours http://pastebin.com/a9FBaR82

Email is being sent now, will post proof

Calm your tits Mis-calculated the time from my own timezone, oops. Sorry I'm late, get ready, documents are being forwarded in 5 minutes, and I will provide proof. Evidence of all* claims will also be added ASAP, waiting for a response also from Verto as he knows I am proceeding.

*all claims that aren't going to doxx anyone.

I'm not full of shit, looks like some coins could be making a move soon Either that or they are infact trying to buy time to pull something off against me, I have been sent 2 dox upto now which is apparently me, both incorrect. They have until 2PM (EST) to sort it out, in the mean time I'll release proof, I want to get this over with now after giving them the 24 hour timeline, but if there's still a chance of the coins being returned or some of them atleast, then I'm willing to wait a little longer and I will confirm the password salt-hash soon since everyone are completely paranoid off their tits right now.

If any top level Vendors want to come forward, I can give you great proof of everything.

PRE 24 HOUR UPDATE Received a new offer, this may actually go the right way. Contacting people to put this in place and will post proof ASAP. Not sure if they are trying to buy time, but information will be forwarded to Law Enforcement if there's any sign of bullshit in the next 30 minutes. Once this is done I will proceed to release EVERYTHING. Please bare in mind database will be redacted with truncated tables to prevent sensitive information (plain text PMs) etc. from being released and endangering other users.

Edit I have a server purchased in the case that this works out with the Evo site up and running on it, as it was on 17th March at around 9AM (EST). Onion will be set-up as soon as I know this is going ahead, will update further and have contacted /u/gwern for verification.

Update Received 2 death threats and new pay-off amounts to be silenced, all chat logs will be placed into paste bin soon along with screenshot links.

Proof, more to come http://pastebin.com/4Hrjs34i

1000 Sample Selection of Vendor User/Password Hashes released, salts will not be released to protect them. More stuff to come in the next few hours, however I haven't slept so may be tomorrow morning, if I hear nothing more from Verto after 24 hours, everything goes public. If the database dump is against any rules, please let me know and I (or you) can remove the link immediately, I couldn't find anything implicitly against it whilst skimming.

** Following further leads and compiling evidence **

First of all, I wish to comply with all rules of this sub and will NOT be posting any sensitive information relating to any doxx here.

Kimble, Verto and NSWGreat are amongst many previously involved with Evolution who will know exactly who this is. Considering a lot of my money was stolen in the inevitable exit scam from them, which I assumed I would have had time to warn people about before it happened, but to tell you the truth I haven't been online for the past month or so.

I posted a thread calling them out as all means of contact with either Verto or Kimble now seem to be dead. My thread was quickly removed and then the /r/EvolutionMarket subreddit was made private.

I have gathered as much information as I can to add to the large paper trail I am in possession of already. The separate staff mirror server was still active until around 2 hours ago.

Now, Verto. I don't have much information regarding him, other than the potential NEW IDENTITY he used to flee his country of residence. Other than that I don't have much which isn't encrypted.

Kimble however, now Kimble is quite the moron. Lots of unencrypted conversations which lead me to personal social media accounts, that were deleted 2 days ago. The problem with that is I have looked into Kimble before this and known her identity for a while. Because of this I also have linked relatives accounts and just yesterday there were best wishes directed to Kimble on their "trip" they were taking. It looks as if Kimble is passing it off as a 2 year vacation to them and flew out yesterday from an Airport that I may soon disclose if both of them do not comply.

If you both do not come forward now and speak (you know where to reach me outside of Reddit), then I will proceed to first, unwillingly, provide all information to relevant Law Enforcement and your dox, Evolution Source Code, Redacted SQL Dump from 17th March and also unencrypted chat logs will either be released publicly (not here as I have mentioned, due to sub rules) or I will sell them off for no more than my losses from your disgusting theft.

Come forward now, reach out to me, put this right. I have a close enough figure to your overall takings from this and what I am encouraging you to do, is to place ALL coins BACK into the Evolution hot wallet and I will host the site on a fresh server for the next few days so that I can release all Escrow funds and withdrawals. I am being GENEROUS with the option to do this, as I will allow you to keep anything then left over by anyone that hasn't returned to claim their funds. This is a MORE THAN FAIR offer.

Heads up to any other Market Admins that see this, when you hire a programmer to fix your own security holes, don't fucking cross them and give them a notice before fucking them off with no final payment. All's I am going to say is, backdoors galore and I left the final vulnerability I found for you WIDE open in the final revision of the auth module, well done Verto, you piece of shit.

Don't even think of offering me any money now, although all I want is my own money back, it is necessary that you do the same for the whole community if you want any compliance from me. You have 24 hours to get in contact with me by any means necessary before I begin to take further action, as the time ticks by your ass hole will begin to gape as you get closer to being locked behind bars.

Also, anyone such as Deepthroat, if you aren't full of shit, feel free to pass on any extra information you have. I have a potential current location, and I believe (cannot prove) they have both traveled to the same destination.

Fresh Key:

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Quick Update: I know a lot of you are skeptical, but this is the real deal and I am following all leads as best I can and I didn't wish to release as much info as I did to be honest even though there isn't much there.

In the past 2 hours, I have been in contact with someone who I believe to be a third party in this speaking on their behalf as everything seems to add up, I will continue correspondence and try to confirm everything. I have also had a pay-off offer from him, which I happily declined, it was more than what I lost also. Received a lot of offers to buy the source code, all of these offers will be respectively declined too, it will be made public after their time window runs out.

Any journalists looking to contact me and can't understand PGP, I will not speak to you any further, you can make a big story about this once it's all in the open, I will be updating here every few hours as things develop. Another correspondent has made some strong claims which I will follow up to confirm.

Please wait and I will provide hard evidence very soon along with verification of who I am. An old Evo PR Moderator has PM'd me and I will speak to them soon too and see what information they have available, any old chat logs etc.

One more thing No, of course I couldn't guarantee they would see this, but it is in the public eye and I have tried to reach out to them through other channels and also had no response there in the last 24 hours, I thought making it public would be more of a shock to them and I thought about it from my own point of view, I think I would definitely take a look in the sub, forums etc to see how everyone was freaking out after what I had done, I have to grab at anything to accomplish this here, it may be a lost cause, of course I could be full of shit or have incorrect info that has been left as a breadcrumb trail for someone like me or LE to follow into a hole.

In the case of censoring z-l@sigaint.org

Update 7:30AM (EST) I have been in further contact with some-what reliable sources, but cannot prove anything from them, a lot seem to be LE trying to get information.

Interestingly I have had a lot of messages from vendors who lost out offering me percentages of their losses if I manage to pull this off, I find this very kind and I am greatful, however I don't think it would be best for me to accept anything under the circumstances, however tempting it is. I really appreciate everything though!

I can confirm I have been in contact with Verto, he has verified his identity from specific questions regarding my work for him. He seems to be very confident that he is pretty much untouchable, however Kimble is definitely in the same location as him right now, who's identity I have. I'm looking for sources within the country I believe them to be and I am looking into various options if they don't budge as they seem to be trying to "call my bluff" as such, believing that I won't take action after all this.

Will be confirming hashes later with /u/gwern if he is willing to do so and as this deadline closes I will release screenshots, chat logs and eventually the source code + Kimble's doxx elsewhere from here. Timeline may be overstepped slightly if I feel more can be done, handing evidence to Law Enforcement is what I'd like to think of as a last resort, because then the coins are definitely lost forever.

Edit New discussions of big sums coming in now, if all else fails may have to pay as many people back as I can prove from withdrawals up to the morning of the 17th. Will keep everyone posted.


Comments


[160 Points] sigmalion420:

A faint hope for justice blossoms... +1


[93 Points] None:

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[88 Points] None:

His grammar is better and this one seems more sober than DeepThroat.

Grabs popcorn chicken.


[60 Points] None:

Guys . That is not empty threats like deepthroat .. this is real thing .and after minutes of posting this on evo sub reddit . It went private. Kimble is a female and they are travelling and social media profiles . These admins got fucked already .. these tips already are big . Its getting very exciting ...


[40 Points] GrandWizardsLair:

Quit talking and start chalking. Forward the information to the relevant authorities and be done with it. Your money is gone, you won't see it again, and we both know that. The only thing you can get now is revenge -- and if you actually do have info on Kimble's family members and are willing to release it, sending it to LE is the most charitable way you could do it.

If, on the other hand, you're just waving your cyber-peepee for attention, please to be fucking right off. Thanks.


[35 Points] Kazaa99:

A simple way of showing the people reading this, that you have the db and source code; Just release the database table with usernames and hashed passwords, and then tell how they have hashed and salted the passwords. Then any user (who knows a little PHP or something) could test their hashed password against what is in the database.

Or maybe just a few of the active reddit users hashed password (who agree to it), so they can verify that it is an actual existing database dump.


[33 Points] gwern:

1000 Sample Selection of Vendor User/Password Hashes released, salts will not be released to protect them.

Not sure what this proves. The password hashes are meaningless without a salt, so in effect, you've only provided a list of 1k vendor names. Except vendor names are all public, so you could, hypothetically, have extracted them from a crawl of Evolution...


[30 Points] PeeDThroat:

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My Deepthroat_ account is banned, the Crystal8Ball account (of my friends) is banned, I can not even register anything related to “DeepThroat” without Reddit plain out refusing.. as if there’s a lock on certain combinations of that handle. Whatever.

There is shit going on here that is ridiculous, and in addition to the shit Verto and Kimble pulled, Verto has spent a considerable chunk of BTC in the last two days. I know this for a fact, yet when a “BTC-E” employee (who also happened to be a friendly of a well known mod on this subreddit) slipped up and said something contradictory, I sent him a message I had received from a moderator on this forum. The message itself was soliciting money. I am not saying there’s anything wrong in doing that, but the vibe I got then was not good.. and the fact that clearly the “BTC-E” employee and that mod either didn’t get their stories straight or he/she was genuinely sniffing on behalf of Verto, I can not know. Doesn’t exonerate the mod from telling me a sob story and asking for money. The mod has posted since yet has made no mention of what I’m referencing.. so I’m not sure if that’s anything. (Have the message saved though).

Regarding Verto and Kimble - I will be in touch. Where to reach you off Reddit?

If I formatted this wrong /u/AgoraMarket can I trouble you for some help again? Sorry dude, I appreciate your help last two days.

DeepThroat

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Edit: Everything started getting "re-removed", accounts started getting locked out and posted deleted approximately 15 minutes after I confronted the individual about the moderators shenanigans and why the stories don't jive. Keep in mind this "employee" was sniffing around and bringing up WillyClock from TCF's beef with Verto. So make what you will on if there is a connection there. But the reek of bribes and loyalties is becoming painfully obvious. Also DeepDot - no offense, but I had a chat with someone today. Remember the "Oracle Memoirs" you posted and made reference to yesterday? Turns out that "draft" of Oracles garbage was sent to three people. One of them was Boogie was EVO, one of them was You, and the other was arrested in the SR2 takedown (doesn't matter and don't ask who). Your .... 'relationship' with Boogie from EVO, their former "PR Officer" and the "Oracle Tales" I'm sure was all kosher. Never was permission given to DeepDot to publish anything - it was done on it's own. I know this because that document was being shopped around as blackmail. So... well, yeah..


[28 Points] IGetDankShit:

Why have you not verified anything with gwern yet?


[26 Points] PingPlay:

z-l, how much do you want for the full package of information? I'm willing to pay your losses as long it's a reasonable amount.


[24 Points] subalpha:

RemindMe! 23 hours "I really feel like I've seen this before"


[20 Points] TooMuchWowVeryOmg:

Imagine people would act like this if a banker gambles away 34 million. At least we have some sense of justice left in us <3


[20 Points] arrowplum:

These updates are sweet. That's the way to do it. Just stick 'em in at random points in a post with different words: Edit, Update 3, new shit, check out my mixtape, bruh


[20 Points] millifatz:

Suppose Verto, Kimble and whoever else intricately planned this whole thing from the very beginning, having been expert fraudster carders with presumably solid OPSEC, it just seems unlikely they would make amateur moves like Kimble's unencrypted messages, Kimble's failure in keeping identity completely separate from real life, and even booking flights at nearly the same time as the heist. Could just be a red herring.

If I was heartless and despicable and wanted to run with the money, I would first book a trip somewhere weeks or months in advance of the heist, lay low, keep the market running smoothly and then scam.

I am hopeful about this but I will keep expectations low.


[21 Points] Kill_more:

Well, I will give this poster credit for one thing..he gave Kimble an identity as a female. That could carry on, and be included in the future movie.

I swear, sometimes I feel like I am reading the script to a future movie.

I would prefer the bad guys feel some guilt and come back to the good side in the end, as it will give me hope that a libertarian future is possible, but I would still enjoy watching them go down in a blaze of bullets... which is much better for the movie


[17 Points] Oracle_DNM:

ITT: People who are so desperate that they'll believe everything.


[16 Points] einhorn_is_kimble:

Einhorn is Kimble? Kimble is Einhorn!??

Einhorn is a man?!?

KIMBLE IS A MAN!!!


[16 Points] throwawaypenissmith:

Here is what penissmith posted on alphabay forums today :

"

philmitchell wrote:

there's some weird shit going on... why is penissmith allowed access to the reddit, and why does that guy have the information thats in that pastebin.

penissmith (evosmith here on reddit)

I played a much larger role on Evolution then what the general public saw. I actually acted as a staff member who watched the other staff members in a kind of internal investigation way. I was hired by Verto from the very beginning and left for a couple months due to payment disagreement but came back when he finally saw things my way. I knew of the scam a week before it happened but I was paid off, then paid off once again when the site closed to keep the information I had secure.

NWSGreat actually is the fall guy for this. Verto and I hired him as staff because we already had his identity known beforehand and we were hoping any type of attack after the exit scam would be directed at him because he was easy to find. Most of the staff on Evo had NWS's doxx including myself. The goal was to release it right before the exit scam, but that ended up not happening until afterwards. Verto's security was top notch but Kimble's wasn't, and we knew this. Kimble is actually ilovespaghetti from BMR, and her identity has been known for close to 18 months now. She ended up only getting about $200,000 from the exit scam and it was designed that way. She is the main bait for Law Enforcement here and as previously stated her identity is known and will be forwarded to the correct people.

I have lost all contact with Verto and will not attempt to find him as I am generously paid off and not in the position to start any fights. I never did any digging on him as that was part of the contract we agreed to for me to conduct audits on the staff and be paid with 4% of the total revenue from the website.

Creating these markets is all about getting fall people for the general public and for Law Enforcement to arrest and say they stopped another drug site. In all reality Verto is not going to be identified for quite some time, if ever, but the people around Evolution will if that is what Law Enforcement wants."

Thread is here http://pwoah7foa6au2pul.onion/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=916

Just sharing some information because most of you dont go to that forum.


[18 Points] BringEvoBack:

I have direct information on one of thier family members, thanks to their family's big mouths. I would provide it but not sure how to get into the private Evo forums. Being neighbors, and seeing things as well as hearing things, I know for sure it is true (it is how I first found Evo, and I saw evidence that makes me 100% sure this is thier family. If I knew where to place this elsewhere, I would.

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[14 Points] None:

/u/gwern Have you been given any information that we do not have access to in order to verify the legitimacy of these claims?


[17 Points] funkmastamatt:

Grab your popcorn


[14 Points] eragmus:

/u/IGetDankShit has removed OP's post, due to non-compliance with request to verify with /u/gwern: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/2zlju6/valuable_information_on_kimble_and_verto/cpld4ym


[15 Points] BharatN:

Luckily, I had the tab open before post removal. For people who missed the drama. ;)

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[12 Points] BTVA:

That's very good work. Thank you.

Just know that you will get nothing but shit for it because this is Reddit, and hapless serial victims turn into trolls when you lift a finger to help them. They can't go to mom without her finding out about their secret drug use, so they sit at the laptop and brood.

When it becomes personal and you know they've been through your posting history, it means that you're getting uncomfortably close to the truth. Sometimes its the only way you can tell.

Only bad guys attack good guys without explaining why. Make a mental note. (I've got a guy who does it for me)

Did anybody get any code, or have a look around "Ironclad"? Because it would be very useful if we can identify it if (or more likely, when) its repainted.

It seems almost an established fact that its two former-carders. I'm not running this for the BTVA, "Blacktracker" is. He seems convinced that its one man - not two - and that he's scared to travel abroad because of his criminal record. He's still at home, looking at parked cars across the road.

Everytime I come onto reddit and I'm a bit provocative, and users say "go and have some more meth, you arrogant limey", Blacktracker is following up on them. So if you felt a sudden cold shiver, that was him looking into the depths of your soul! Don't worry about it.

I'm going to call Mr Evo "Stevo", rather than Kimble and Verto.

Stevo has already interacted with me, on here. Sometime between us issuing the market warning, and Evo being gone. I won't say the account name.

Stevo now has the predicament of deleting that account and drawing attention to it, or leaving it. Either way, it doesn't matter.

Everybody here is feeling angry, but you should all be feeling very happy. I know we are, and its not the meth.

We've been through a lot of these marketplace exit scams, and we learn a lot each time.

Its going to go quiet for a while now, and everybody will think he's got clean away. Possibly for many months, or for a few weeks. Everyone who did something, or tried to help will feel a little bit insulted ny unappreciative, smart-Alek kids.

This always happens, because there are three phases of crazy activity, with silence in between in a typical one-man exit scam. Which is how we are treating this (I can't tell you why, but remember that more than one of the former Evo mods are now employed by a BTVA member. Two of them were collaborating with him for a while before Tuesday. There were quite a lot of them)

You are probably wondering why there hasn't been any blockchain posts from us about "chasing people through tumblers" etc

Don't worry about that either. Maybe we don't do all that stuff now, or SheepRoadreloaded2 just gave it up as a lost cause. I don't know, he doesn't report to me.

"Stevo" really dropped a clanger on Tuesday, because he was shitting himself. His confidence will recover, then he will feel safe, and he will become active again. Occasionally, his mobile phone will ring. just one ring, and he will feel paranoid and have a look on Reddit to see if we are talking about him. Everybody's phone does that. Wrong number usually.

I'm afraid to say, you're probably not going to get your bitcoin back. If its any consolation, its likely to end up in an FBI auction.

Feel satisfied when you go to bed tonight knowing that you have already won, for certain, and whoever was behind Evolution Marketplace is caught between a rock and a hard place and the game is already over, even if he doesn't know it yet.

Its like when you are playing noughts and crosses, and you get your cross in three of the four corners. It takes a while before the other person goes through all the permutations in their mind. Wherever they put their "0", they lose.

So cheer up. You absolutely can't lose, and you're going to get a lot of satisfaction out of it.

If you enjoy puzzles, click on my name, and see if you can spot Evo's master criminal in the hours after the post that kicked it all off

http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/2zc89r/complaintwarning_british_tor_vendors_association/

I must admit, I didn't spot it. But I was asleep half the day.


[15 Points] None:

I haven't Reddited this hard since the fappening 2014. Never forget.


[12 Points] darkpaway:

Chat log is cringe worthy. Maybe you should go write a screenplay for jayden smith.


[11 Points] CrazyBearShark:

The lack of knowledge on Verto concerns me. Even if z-l has Kimble by the balls(nipples?), she will only be able to return half the money. Verto has no obligation to return money unless Kimble has some of his doxx... Let's hope that they closely worked together and know a bit about each other, then we may have a greater chance of Verto getting caught too.


[10 Points] socrizpy:

Just have to point out these guys/gals were previously Identity thieves right? I would think they are pretty good at this point at appearing as somebody else.


[13 Points] jazzhonorface:

I can confirm names/aliases to flight numbers/departures. Can't wait to see if this reveal is indeed legit.


[8 Points] DoYouCali:

This is so fascinating. As an impartial observer, I'd probably say the odds are pretty good that this is a red herring, and most likely set up by the criminals themselves or at the very least accomplices. This community has taken their bait so hard.

Just browsing through the last couple of months of posts both here and at /r/EvolutionMarket they seem to have hundreds of sock puppets.


[10 Points] popcorndramadnm:

Your "proof" doesn't really show anything significant. It's basically a list of PUBLIC vendor usernames that you could have just fetched at any time - or even from the public mirror that gwern released. The password hashes mean absolutely nothing in this state, with no salt.

Better yet, what if this guy is literally Verto/Kimble and they actually have the legit source code/database, but since they've already shut down the website they plan on leaking everything in 24 hours - and pinning it on some other guy/people. That would be genius. I don't really think that's the case though.

Seems fishy. Still not sure - this isn't really "proof" at all.

I am very interested in where this goes though.


[11 Points] jerzze18:

ive been sitting here smoking a blunt for the past 14 minutes, nothing.............your a true son of a bitch


[10 Points] Fr0styXT:

If OP went through ALL of that to TROLL a whole community I quit life cause obviously im doing it wrong...


[8 Points] Gentle123:

So how much do you estimate was stolen?


[8 Points] None:

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[10 Points] MarloStanfield1:

http://i.imgur.com/ypxMd.gif


[8 Points] faldkjfadf:

Can't wait for the mega-ultra-twist ending where z-l get the serv back up, coin back, then exit-scams EVERYONE.


[7 Points] earthmoonsun:

well, the drama continues...
however, after this disappointing deepthroat story, i won't be surprised if this is just another fairy-tale.
maybe verto and kimble are behind all this to give people false hope and distract them from researching who and where they actually really are. who knows. if i were to run away with millions from criminals and addicts, i wouldn't just disappear and do nothing but have some elaborate plan ready.


[9 Points] btcgone:

For everyone following this, it's safe to assume that if communications between Verto + NSWGreat were plaintext on the server, so are all the vendors communications with customers.


[8 Points] Account_omerta:

At 2 pm there will be more "Sorry bras, new urgent development, bla bla 24 more hours, btw im straight with you guise no bs is real."


[8 Points] joint420:

That chatlog just sealed the deal. this is complete bullshit


[9 Points] None:

ILLEGAL JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED! HUZZAH


[7 Points] SilentDager:

I'd like to think if I stole 34mil from the deep web drug king pins, I wouldn't have any sort of trail. Along with having a close security force with me for the first month of my "vacation".


[8 Points] None:

All that needed to happen was for them to steal somebody's wife, Liam Neeson would've hunted them down by now but he strictly only works to rescue his wife/daughter or somebody elses wife/daughter.

If we can make a case that one of these two is somebody's wife/daughter - which shouldn't be difficult - then Liam Neeson will fuck these pricks up.

He will find them and he will kill them.


[5 Points] Fr0styXT:

Troll of the century award goes to /u/z-l if this is fake...


[8 Points] None:

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[8 Points] Hash_Slingin_Slasha:

Here are the images, both imgur
first one
second one
Edit: I am merely posting for people who do not have a way to use tor, or those who didn't make it in time. I don't necessarily believe or disbelieve /u/z-l and won't until I see more proof.


[7 Points] doubledoseopimpin:

A title that's says "Valuable information", but yet no actual valuable information was in the post. How surprising. Don't talk about it be about it.


[7 Points] z-l:

New update in original post to keep you guys informed.


[8 Points] alloutofoptionsnow:

can confirm, z-l is legit

some big news is gonna break in the next 90 minutes


[7 Points] Fr0styXT:

The poor Mods are loosing their minds right now.


[6 Points] this_is_s0_sad:

This is quite possibly the most pathetic thing I've ever seen on reddit. OP has posted ZERO PROOF of anything, yet anyone that displays skepticism gets downvoted.

There is no reason he wouldn't have posted some proof of something by now if he actually had it. You all are a bunch of gullible idiots and you deserve to have your money stolen from you by people that have half a brain.

EDIT: And he has a very easy way to prove his legitimacy, yet he hasn't taken advantage of it:

http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/2zlju6/valuable_information_on_kimble_and_verto/cpl57oy


[7 Points] None:

i'm sad

i don't even use DNMSs but I was following this drama hoping to witness internet history :(


[6 Points] None:

Its 2pm est now bro . We are all waiting . They are just buying time . Nothing will happen


[5 Points] MarloStanfield1:

fuck why cant i call it a day


[5 Points] gonzobon:

Relevant


[6 Points] _just_-_sayin_:

NSWGreat exit story?

Exit scam needs a planned exit to get people to stop looking. The scam isn't over until they are gone and don't have to look over their shoulders. They also have had plenty of time to think about it. Just sayin!

Could always be LE too. Popcorn anyway.


[7 Points] awaywethrowwwww:

Chat "log" proves nothing...


[7 Points] EVO_plasticA:

For the conspiracy lovers:

"2s398nn7x89-w2ex238dlsa-1x9e9322c:: You will be silenced and no one will believe anything"

this is exactly what is happening now!! thread DELETED.... Verto is controlling DarkNetMarkets!


[4 Points] None:

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[3 Points] cbi_90410:

Hey OP, see if you can look and respond to my PM. I can definitely help in tracking these assholes


[5 Points] wibblewobblebob:

"Hard evidence is coming in the next few hours, I'm compiling everything and a sort of timeline."

when can we get more info?


[7 Points] Metham89:

Look at us working together as a team! I hope we find these fuckers, I've had some nice things going on there.. Now to be switching to another market with the same risks, I dunno man..


[5 Points] oeiuoiu:

Dude, there's about 500 people in here that could assist you in proving you're not full of shit. I'll give you my login/pw, anyone else in here can do the same. Gwern has tried twice and you've failed to respond, this is easy as pie to straighten out. OP is a rotting fish.


[5 Points] None:

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[5 Points] MarloStanfield1:

hes bolted


[4 Points] crotch_shot:

I hoping you're in the process of typing this shit


[6 Points] Blunt-Logic:

i need closure so i can actually work today... /u/z-l, whats happening


[6 Points] axefx:

FAKE!

I can't believe there are still people believing this is true.

OP is clearly a fat nerd loser with a lot of time for trolling and making up those logs, because his life is useless.

After all this story it's clear that standard QI of deepweb people is 0. You are all a bunch of stoned faggots.


[6 Points] Whoopziedaisy:

Can anyone repost an image of the screenshot? For those of us who don't have access to Tor at the moment


[4 Points] formerevolover2015:

holy shit he just removed all info????????


[7 Points] CultOfSiduri:

z-l, if you post a partial DOX to Mirror666 this should increase the probability of the bitcoins getting returned and this whole mess getting resolved peacefully: http://www.gilgameshsecurity.com/sophos/index.php/Mirror666#Anonymous_chat_log_with_Verto


[7 Points] EVO_plasticA:

I think I saw a tumble weed passing by....


[6 Points] None:

Thanks for not being selfish and think in the whole community not only yourself .. and i hope your plan succeed


[5 Points] sobulbous:

Can you ask Verble to send me some pumpkin flavored kit kat bars?


[4 Points] None:

Dont believe it, the sub probably went private because they scammed everyone. They have the power they shut everthing down. Post 1 ounce of prove. Everytime a scam happens there are a few guys who say, fix this or else! Of course with absolutely no proof and nothing comes out of it. If you programmed some of the site there is tons of data for you to use to prove this is real, that wont dox or fuck people.


[3 Points] Lucid_Enemy:

send one of them a pizza to show your not playing games to them


[5 Points] brnqll:

i cant wait and i'd wish you'd hurry

the more time you give them, the less chance of justice


[3 Points] Gentle123:

Z-l If verto did get in contact why didn't you screenshot? What else was said? as if he isn't looking to comply or bribe you I doubt he has much interest to brag, he just stole millions of pounds and is probably never going to get caught I don't think he needs to brag.

Also not sure if you have answered yet but allot of claims about how much was stolen, how much do you think was actually stolen?


[3 Points] 1499:

Do us good, z-l. I didnt lose anything, but I want justice to be served for all the hard working vendors. Good job with everything so far.


[5 Points] CroowTrobot:

http://i.imgur.com/xLfvSpt.gifv


[4 Points] None:

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[3 Points] thatannoyingcunt:

Mad respects for you mate. Btw I felt weird that It had my vendor name on your list. :/


[3 Points] K2016:

Timeout.


[3 Points] None:

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[2 Points] MarloStanfield1:

http://i.imgur.com/OEksQJS.gif


[5 Points] gonzobon:

OP probably got assassinated


[4 Points] None:

coins are being shifted into his wallet as we speak. they give him an offer he can't refuse lol


[4 Points] EVO_plasticA:

we lost lots of money in this but i still can get a smile after this.

Soap opera in the darknet?

My dear friends there is nothing like this in here, the darkweb is a cold place where people don't just share personal life and information to anyone. It does not matter who you worked with or what partnership there was.

Verto and Kimble did not travel to the same location and they did not made a mistake that could lead to a doxxing.

There is no chatting around. There is no compassion, there is no friendship.

z-l is nobody with a lot of free time in hand. There is no secret investigation or security analyst that can doxx them.

There is no social network involvement, no cross-contamination, there is absolutely none of that.

There is just a bunch of gullible weed smoking bloggers waiting for a Hollywood movie.


[4 Points] _Long_Story_Short_:

I have NEVER followed a thread that much!!


[4 Points] cryptoreporter:

No offense to anyone, but if Kimble & Vert had any brains theres no need to talk to ZL or anyone about anything at all. $33 mill can buy you new passports, identities, fingerprints, contact lenses, hell even a movie production quality mask. (Im watching the last 3 James Bond movies lately).

So seems weird to me why K and V would have anything to say at all at this point.


[4 Points] cryptoreporter:

I'm going to throw this out there... ZL is Kimble/Vert in disguise and we are all watching this thread like idiots while the thieves are escaping out another door.

If only Scooby & Shaggy were real :|


[5 Points] shitstorm-throwaway:

One thing I don't understand - are you telling him to send the funds to the old hotwallet? One he also has keys for?


[3 Points] sallyaway:

Why have you not replied to the questions asking about why you have not reached out to /u/gwern in an attempt to prove anything beyond a doubt?

Besides that this is all fucking bullshit of course.


[2 Points] Throwawayyevo:

What part of wasting all your time trolling gets someone off? Scamming i get. Smoking blunts i get. Fishscale i get. Trolling i dont get...


[5 Points] throwawayspoiledmilk:

REMOVED?!


[5 Points] thowaw223:

this was the darknet eclipse ladys and gentlemen


[3 Points] EVO_plasticA:

What happened to all the staff Members anyway? why is not a single one of them writing their side of the story anywhere???

Since this all thing came down i saw only NSW saying something ( regardless of lying )....

What about all the forum mods, market admins, etc.etc...

SniperFox & Co......

Anyone?


[3 Points] None:

Actions speaker louder then words OP!


[5 Points] cacodemonia:

Deanonymizing BTC-clients can be done, as examplified in UoL uni paper. Unfortunately drug dealers aren't going to get to do that. This reddit-circus isn't going to amount to shit.

Fool me once, shame on you... Could we please move towards a consensus of approximating better security now? Obligatory multisig, decentralized markets... And a better coin? Or is the general feeling within this fine community more so that it would be nice to get fucked in the ass once again?


[4 Points] None:

This is stupid as hell. Making these baseless ultimatums just gives the scammers time to flee. Go ahead and turn over 35 million to LE and let Kimble and Vetro get away.


[3 Points] sharpCode:

There is no chance of them putting it back up now. Why would they? Their rep is ruined now and everyone will immediately withdraw and leave evolution. They have all the money they need. A time-frame will do absolutely nothing.

So the sooner you either hand the info to LE or to some private party that was invested in Evo and can actually take care of this shit the better. My guess though is you just want them to see this and pay you off, though I hope you are nothing like deepthroat and actually legit and concerned.

So here's my time-frame 24 hours to show that you have at least given info to LE or that you have some ground breaking info otherwise I call bullshit.


[3 Points] castawayaccountdawg:

I knew Evo seemed to good to be true, fast, reliable, aircon that made you feel as though you were standing on top of a mountain. Thanks for the work OP.


[3 Points] Jmanevo123:

Thats incredible. Any information on why Evolution subreddit was made private?


[3 Points] throeaway88888888:

could someone explain what "salts" is?


[2 Points] r3vv:

All of these extended timeframes for the release of information just makes me think this is all one giant deterrent to keep others from trying to release the same information. Get the masses to wait idle while they break free while leading everyone on seems like a pretty solid plan.

But what do I know?


[3 Points] Zara02:

The torrent contains at least one dox, courtesy of DebbiesDelites. We know that right?


[3 Points] Thoughtsofamaniac:

Godspeed sir, we shall follow you into glory or oblivion.


[3 Points] theshadowfax:

A hero approaches.

OP do you have any way besides email for us to follow progress if this gets taken down or reddit closes the sub?


[3 Points] Whoopziedaisy:

OP, the internet Spartan not to be fucked with.


[3 Points] StillUseless:

Seems like, if this was a premedited scam, kimble and verto (or Mary and verto, or Mary, or whatever) would have kept info on everyone they dealth with to use as leverage. It really seems like alot more people are going to suffer than just those two (or him/her) if they're doxxed.

I definitely wouldn't help LE. If you choose to deal in illegal activity, then you shouldn't run to the pigs when things go bad.


[3 Points] _Boogie_:

Okay I've seen enough.

I've been watching all of this unfold for a while and have come to the conclusion that you don't know anything about the Evo Admins. The claims you've made just don't match up with what I know. Especially your claims about coding for Evo.

You say you're an old friend of Kimble and Verto. Yet I have no idea who you are and I very highly doubt you know either of them personally. This also goes for all the other claims I've seen regarding Verto and Kimble. I have yet to see a legitimate claim, and the only thing I've noticed are people trying to squeeze some money out of this tragedy. If your claims are true, then please prove me wrong. I would love nothing more :)

It's a shame what the Evo admins did. I believe they had good intentions in the beginning but later on decided to get out of the business while ahead. Folks let's face it, nothing like this could last forever. It's a lot of hard work, high stress, and time consuming to operate a dark market. I just feel these guys were ready to move on with their lives and leave the deepweb behind. That's what I did, it's very taxing to to do this type of work.

I bring this up because I don't want to see people get caught up in these false claims. I think the best thing to do is accept this for what it is, wash your hands of it and move on.

If you all have a vengeance on finding Verto and Kimble, that's fine. Do what you gotta do, it's not my business. But I feel that in the long run this major hunt for them will end up with no true conclusion.

Just be careful of the opportunist feeding you all false claims. They just want money, plain and simple.


[3 Points] None:

4star23 is on a mission


[3 Points] easymed:

It's just like edging ;-)


[1 Points] arrowplum:

What I am hoping for (but almost definitely not getting) http://www.fightreport.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/scott-smith_pete-sell.gif


[3 Points] uCXwHhRvCr:

As exciting as all this shit is, it's very likely that nothing will happen. If anything does then boy will I be surprised.


[4 Points] None:

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[3 Points] None:

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[3 Points] None:

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[3 Points] None:

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[3 Points] quakquakquak:

Even if this is a story, it's a great one. I hope you pull through because holy shit if you manage to bring that market back up, my mind will be destroyed. I'll probably quit the internet. Godspeed z-l


[3 Points] K2016:

how long time left?


[3 Points] EVO_plasticA:

i was going to ask you proof of the salt on the hashes. then i noticed that the PGP public Key you provided is incorrect and can't be used.

Secondly, let say we own 2 accounts in that pastenbin list of vendors you posted... Both of the accounts had the same password.

Wouldn't the hash be the same for both accounts?


[3 Points] NextGenerationREAL:

verto/kimble= z-l distracting and releasing a bad trail


[3 Points] None:

2pm do ittt!!


[3 Points] theDOC7OR:

GOGOGOGOGOGOGO it's tiemmm


[3 Points] rulinus:

No more bullshit, no more stalling, if you are legit, JUST DO IT.

You've already lost faith of 70% of people in here.


[3 Points] GIEV_RP_PLZ:

POPPERMACHINE IS THAT YOU?


[3 Points] None:

over/under that he gives them more time. taking bets 2/1


[3 Points] rulinus:

Screw you op. At least i had a glimmer of hope but, i should've known better.


[3 Points] bluestalker1:

z is verto so now he is in the bahamas drinking a "sex on the beach" listening darude-sandstorms


[4 Points] beanx:

Le Tits Now, Trebek...


[3 Points] K2016:

lol is no good movie z-l


[3 Points] PMedic15:

I think my F5 button is broken...


[3 Points] None:

CAN U HURRY UP LMFAO


[3 Points] bluestalker1:

copy from dw:

Netflix_Support wrote:

hardcover wrote:

    deeznutz wrote:

        That may be true, but I haven't seen any evidence of anything - at all - so far.

    It is true.

    The three of them are at a hotel in the Pacific. Verto flew in a while ago (from what I can tell), followed by Kimble more recently and then the vendor in question the day the exit scam became public. They are being joined by more people in the following week.

    If it'll spice things up, I can add more. This is all confirmed information from Verto and co. themselves, and people previously working on Evolution.

This must be bullshit , who is the so called "vendor"

Kalashnikov.


[3 Points] alwayslookingformore:

And....the thread is done

gg everyone


[3 Points] Gentle123:

Well I guess that's that, bullshit confirmed. Op had way to much time on his hands..


[3 Points] pizzafapper:

What I don't get is..how was this guy able to get the evolution subreddit to private if he's just trolling? He did release the 1000 hashes of the vendors although that proves nothing but if he's trolling, then he did go to lengths to make his story seem viable.


[3 Points] mreJ:

10 days later. NOTHING. gfj


[2 Points] babysfirstsecurity:

a smile for you :) even if fiction


[2 Points] awshiiiit:

awwwww shit


[2 Points] None:

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[2 Points] d0nniedarko:

0_0 chokes on popcorn


[1 Points] None:

Holy shit, this is some movie shit going on and I'm able to witness this shit go down.


[2 Points] toastedjelly_:

Fucking. Awesome.


[2 Points] PsychedelicTangerine:

Would love the Evo source code if you have it!

Second fuck them release what you got. they already got new id in a non extradited country


[2 Points] local_residents:

which I assumed I would have had time to warn people about before it happened, but to tell you the truth I haven't been online for the past month or so.

To me this sounds like you knew what was going to happen but didn't consider it a big enough concern to let people know right away and instead waited a month or so before coming back online...not to tell people what you knew but since it happened you decided to talk about it. (You weren't planning on informing everyone that you knew they were all about to be stolen from but you are generously telling us now because it already happened...thanks for the heads up.)

Anyone else getting that from the above text?


[2 Points] mad87645:

Money talks and bullshit walks, or in this case, money walks and bullshit talks (since Verto and Kimble are getting away and everyone else is just running their mouth). I'll start believing anyone here knows or knew anything about V+K when we hear that they got arrested or shot in the face. Until then, swing your internet cock with all your might, you're slowing them down as much as a butterfly in front of a speeding train.


[2 Points] ERRORUser_not_found:

MY HERO <3


[2 Points] TXUncut:

I dont want to come off as overly conspiratorial but both depthroat, NSWgreat and OP's posts are EXACTLY the kind of 'threats' that I would prepare to have released in waves the days after a huge exit scam if I had pulled it off. Stall for time, post plausible threats and misdirect as I weave my net of anonymity. The more false information is available, the more data the feebs have to dig through aimlessly as they try to track me down. Just a thought.


[2 Points] EmancipatedSpirit:

thanks alot man... keep up the good work


[2 Points] None:

Shit just got real, looks like he wasn't bluffing!


[2 Points] motsanciens:

If someone is on the list, how could they verify the hash is legit? I would need the eli5 on cryptography.


[2 Points] Throwawayyevo:

OP also mentions them not knowing his dox but he knows kimbles? Possibly Verto? Would Kimble and Verto give their names to a hired programmer but not know his name????


[2 Points] superdoopernaut:

NSWGreat is an opiate addict, I give him some leeway regarding his claims.


[2 Points] TheRealFrelsi:

Jesus Horatio Christ! I'm going to end up with diabetes with the amount of popcorn I've been shoveling down my throat this week. Data might be crawled, might not be - nevertheless, this does seem as if it might be the real deal.

One thing that one has to be worried about though is how this is going to affect their families once all this information is out. Sadly, one could see a situation where relative / significant other / friend could be used as leverage to get to them. Breaking Bad much? Quick! Someone call Vince Gilligan!


[2 Points] berryman13:

$34,000,000 USD is accused of being stolen?


[2 Points] Cyako:

Could someone please explain to me what is stopping /u/z-l from stealing these Bitcoins if the old Evo owners deposit it back into a hot wallet? Also, from what I understand hot wallets have been compromised in the past numerous times so what is to say someone won't do the same to this one?

Also, I really can't see why they would give all of the money back, it just makes no sense; if only a very select few people will know information then why wouldn't they just pay them off well and still have enough left to live out the rest of their lives? Everyone has a price.


[2 Points] just_neckbeardthings:

Is Kimble Mary?


[2 Points] wibblewobblebob:

So with the deadline 5 hours away, how are things shaping up z-l? What looks most likely? Are we going to get to see the source code?


[2 Points] long_wang_big_balls:

Good luck! I hope DNM justice is served. It has no place for greed.


[2 Points] Fr0styXT:

Big sums going where?? Discussions with who?? Oh the agony.


[2 Points] None:

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[2 Points] TotesMessenger:

This thread has been linked to from another place on reddit.

If you follow any of the above links, respect the rules of reddit and don't vote. (Info / Contact)


[2 Points] IGetDankShit:

Your post is removed until you delete the onion links from your post history.


[2 Points] None:

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[2 Points] erickie:

can we give the guy a break for now? and just wait for the stuff he may or may not release. We will know soon enough . So whats the point is questioning him all at the same time all of a sudden. Is not like he just popped up 5 minutes ago..


[2 Points] theshadowfax:

Getting down to the wire...

Better get my f5 finger ready


[4 Points] 238j9cnjewijp29u-322:

DO NOT POST, DEAL ON THE WAY. CHECK YOUR EMAIL NOW YOU FUCKING PRICK.


[2 Points] georgeyjung:

Im rooting for you. Don't let us down.


[2 Points] MarloStanfield1:

its 4am here and im running low on speed so hurry the fook up


[2 Points] None:

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