Being threatened by a customer. What should I do?

There is a customer claiming that I selectively scammed him on a 250 pack of XANAX bars. He has received the package, tracking number says delivered, but he claims that it was empty.

He stated that I have 18 hours to rectify the situation before he "calls in a favor" with his aunt who is supposedly a circuit judge in the city close to where my packages are coming from.

And now he is threatening to also take it public to reddit.

It would be incredibly stupid of me to selectively scam on one of the smallest listings that I offer..

What is your advice?

Here is the conversations:

"Look bud. I have put our transaction into dispute. The priority box was completely empty. There were no signs of forced entry into the parcel. I don't want to be a dick and call you out for scamming me, but that is exactly what it appears to be.

I'm hoping you have a partner who is in charge of shipping the parcels out. I am hoping he decided to fuck me (and not you). You are literally 4hrs from me. Not to threaten you, but my aunt is a circuit judge within XXXX's justice departmen, and I have no problem calling in a favor. If you want to call my bluff, than by all means.

I am giving you 18hrs to rectify this situation before I take this to the public along with my judicial connections in XXXX."

"Wait, why are you disputing"

"I laid out very concise reason of why I am disputing. I have perfect feedback on Agora, SR2, Nucleus, and others. This is my first transaction on this site. The box was empty. That means one of two things happened. 1) you tried to selectively scam me (which I've been in the DNM market for 5yrs now), or

2) your packages are being profiled. Now, if they were being profiled, they wouldn't have just given me an empty box. That does not happen. So, that leads me to selective scamming."

EDIT: Yes I do have his address etc, but for the record, I WOULD NEVER do anything with it. No matter if he deserves it or not, I believe that no one deserves to be in jail for these things! ;)


Comments


[99 Points] ElectronicChronic:

Yeah, not surprised a bar fiend is tryin to cop 250 for free. Good luck


[66 Points] NASBNJ1992:

Sounds like a yuppy high school kid. Also imagine him calling in that favor

"Hi aunt Lucy, I ordered some Xanax bars off the darknet but I didn't receive them. You should prosecute the vendor he ships from a city close to you!"

Sorry you have to deal with this shit as a newer vendor, but it looks like trappy is gonna take good care of you. :)


[42 Points] None:

That sucks, sorry your in this situation. I speak from experience when I say if someone has the ties that this man or woman is claiming, they won't tell you. They will just go about their business and then it will hit you like a brick wall.

What the fuck is this guy going to say? Hey I ordered drugs and got scammed can you help me out? The said judge would be putting a lifetime career that took an extreme amount of time and poise to obtain at risk for a favor to a small time buyer? Sure, go ahead, because you know he is that bad ass, very few people have these kind of connections, the ones who do won't use them for trivial crap such as this.

It looks like you already have this resolved but you did the right thing, if he is threatening to take it public then just beat him to the punch (like you did) good luck in your endeavors!


[27 Points] poorOPsex:

Somestimes you got to let a bitch be a bitch. He sounds geniune as far as it missing but turns into a bitch when he threatens. Id refund his money and cut him off. It might sting but it only hurts if you view him as a peer.

Or

If your OPsec is ironclad, google judges in that circuit and goto pipl.com and find the guys family tree - see if he is telling the truth. Then print out the conversation, add "I don't want any trouble" and mail it along with 250 bars to his aunt office , put his name on is care/off the judge.


[25 Points] Trappy_Pandora:

Which market?


[16 Points] None:

wait a minute. this guy has no idea who you are and is threatening you. But, you know exactly who he is and what drugs he does? Is he fucking serious mate? He is threatening you?


[15 Points] Theeconomist1:

I think it's a bad bad idea to pay extortion. He's full of shit. Circuit judge. Whatever. He won't go to her. And so what. With what? He received a drug pack. He's the only one they have who has done something illegal.

Don't pay this motherfucker. If this is your vendor name then you e made a pre emptive strike. Fuck him. And fuck scammers. Even if those scammers are buyers. No good comes out of paying an extortionist. You'll win the dispute. Move on dot org after u win the dispute.


[13 Points] Zoulou42:

Ignore it. Change stealth method.

No worry.


[10 Points] redditulousfun:

Stinks of scam lol my (insert family here) is (insert law enforcement tie here) fuck that dude black list him


[7 Points] yalldontknowjack:

Even if the dude had an aunt that was a judge, what is he going to say. "hey some random dude on the interwebz ripped me off for 250 xanax, can you charge barbarossa with fraud."

Unless the xanax was for the judge, then you might run into problems.
Xanax drama, best drama.


[7 Points] GrilBTW:

What is it he's implying his aunt can do for him anyway? Aren't you the one with his name and address?


[5 Points] notrecane:

No matter if he deserves it or not, I believe that no one deserves to be in jail for these things.

I really applaud your philosophy, It's the same as I and many of us hold here. However any sign of kindness is just a sign of weakness to a scammer.

I would recommend being clear cut, direct and straightforward with your policies. Customers will shop with you based on the quality and price of your product and not much else. Show no signs of kindness or morality, they may win you favor from the like-minded, but will also surely make you the target of thieves. Hold these values and live by them, do not advertise them.

Oh and this guy... blatantly scamming, cheeky fucker. edit: He's also pathetic at social engineering, highlighting lack of experience, you could easily have this guy shitting his pants and begging for mercy if you wanted to.


[2 Points] high_as_flight93:

You should call in a favor to his local PD


[3 Points] Axaq:

Call his bluff definitely, ignore it and report him to the market admins. It's an empty threat.

It's all bullshit. By all means if you'd rather not risk it then make a loss by reshipping, but he could rinse and repeat baring in mind.

Good on you for not doing anything with his address though, everyone should think outside the dox


[3 Points] glitchczar:

This guy is a complete idiot. you're straight bro. Whats he gona say to his "aunt" hey i bought xanax off dnm and never received my package. What a pathetic attempt to try to scam a new vendor who's receiving great feedback so far. You have nothing to worry about. If you really feel the need, change your username and let everybody know its you from your old pgp key. But i wouldnt even go that far. i've had legitimate problems with vendors in the past, they've always taken care of me, but this guy is obviously a bartard trying to finesse you. Matter of fact, i'll make an order from you soon just so that you dont have to worry about some dumbass trying to come up on you. Blessings to you barbossa. You still looking for a new logo? I have photoshop and illustrator experience and would love to help you out because of how good of a guy you are.


[3 Points] notanewnigga:

Hey; Barabarossa, I ordered 100 ! I received 13 broken (still fully compact no powder at all!) , but received 106 bars Your shipping time was insane. 2-3 days max FROM THE ORDER button. We had no communication as i tossed my laptop during orders to a friends house and i waited. You were my second bar order and far better than my last (abraxas guy idk who) Stealth was great, and in this type of "packaging" those shipping dudes would break open the box and be like. Oh. Shit. My bad, then continue their thing. Great stealth, products kicked my ass I'll post a pic later and review. :)

Please dont give into this fool.

/u/barbarossaDNM


[2 Points] octomarvel:

It's also possible YOU are being profiled, no?


[2 Points] None:

sounds like hes trying to scam you

worse part is... hes willing to snitch whats his username ill never fuck with that niggah!


[2 Points] bodevelho:

unless she's judge dredd... I don't see how her being a judge will make any difference..


[2 Points] MoXyMANE:

sounds like some barred out dillweed trying to scam you for a free 250. hope the dispute works out in your favor.

edit, fuck that guy u got his address


[2 Points] PsychoNautJohnII:

How the fuck is his Aunt going to do anything. Does he not know how buying drugs anonymously on the computer works?


[2 Points] 13tom13:

his aunt would not help him punish a vendor, surely if she was a judge she would be against him buying drugs at all so she wouldn't do a favour for him because he didn't get them surely she would be happy. At the end of the day what he did was also illegal and his aunt is a judge so if he has any sense he wouldn't inform her... Seems to me he is full of shit, besides if you give in to him what about the next time or the next bullshitter?


[2 Points] Kruniac:

Report this faggot to every ounce of the staff at whatever DNM you use. This is 100% uncalled for, and regardless of what you have or have not done, there is no excuse whatsoever for someone talking shit about judges and the like.

I'm being fairly humble when I say that if a twitch like this pulled this shit with me in person, I would probably have a rug to dispose of.

My advice - report that person to the admins, and let them deal with it. As a vendor, you could put someone in the danger zone via their address, but you are above that. There has to be a certain degree of trust and morale expectation with vendors, so don't do anything to jeopardize that trust.

All in all, this sounds like some faggot junkie twitching out and trying to get some freebies, and/or someone who is trying to take advantage.

I would also say that you probably shouldn't be posting conversations verbatim, but I'm not going to press over that.

+1 for not using this person's address to fuck them, and +1 for not hiring someone to kill them. I hope it works out for you.


[2 Points] freenarative:

Send him a replacement shipment but swap out the goods for diarrhoea pills. Literally shit him up.


[2 Points] swimpappy:

In a whiney voice, "Aunty Judge Judy ... Barbados ripped me off and didn't send me my illegal drugs in the mail. Will you go get him for me?"

Aunt Judge Judy, "Sure, little johnny, I'll get right on that. I am sure the public who elected me will want to know that I do favors for my extended family who order drugs in the mail".


[2 Points] logitech8799:

The way you handled this WOW! I can't explain the patience and respect you have for everyone on this sub even the ass hats. Your maturity just won me I'm getting back into the bar game expect me to order a pack from you soon! Can't wait to do business with you!


[2 Points] kiwisoop:

Happened to me as well.


[2 Points] Vendor_BBMC:

He doesn't know YOUR name and address. What's his Aunt going to do?

If your aunt was a judge, would you admit to her that you buy drugs on the darknet? And the police try to arrest people who send xanax in the post. You can't get arrested if its an empty box like he says.

You're a vendor. You know all this. Is there an important detail that you've neglected to mention?


[1 Points] None:

That kid is a twat.


[1 Points] xetamine:

sorry to hear about this man, this is pretty crazy but he is prolly full of shit


[1 Points] None:

If you want to call my bluff, "than" by all means.

Call it.


[1 Points] Dat-Cog:

what he failed to mention is that he is getting punked out by his roomates who have no respect for him because he's a tattle tale and they intercepted the package and are now a bunch of bar gobbling piranhas.


[1 Points] AndThenHeSays4:

Don't negotiate with this asshole. Just say I am sorry you feel this way and that you never send an empty package. Selective scamming is never helpful to a vendor's business so it makes no sense for an established vendor to do it. What a fiend asshole that guy is. Don't do business with him anymore.


[1 Points] IsntThisSumShit:

Yo he's scamming u. If ur packs were being profiled more ppl would complain. Lol, judge? Not much evidence if at all. Switch routes tho. Buyer is full of shit. Save the evidence. If he threatens u, u have dirt on him.

250 pack. The per unit cost is too high for resellers to fuck sit when 500+ packs have better margins, meaning this is probably a xan fiend.


[1 Points] None:

I call BS on his 12 year old scam tactics

I used to say my dad worked at Microsoft to scam xbox accounts, it fucking worked.. He's chatting shit.


[1 Points] ParanoiaCat:

Go Ross Ulbright on him and kill that mother fucker Ah and his aunt too.


[1 Points] None:

Yeah hes gonna call his aunt whos a judge... "Hey aunty... )***: I got buwwwnned buying drugs online from the big mean man. Can you tell the Dea to try harder at catching him? Tell him and his fat aunt to go fuck themselves. Dont ever do business with him again.


[1 Points] None:

So in other words, and judging by his comments on the thread, you sold to someone with the mentality of a 12 year old. He's probably 42 or so, but has the mentality of a 12 year old


[1 Points] madisonrebel:

"Your honor, this guy screwed me on the drugs I was trying to order from him."

...said no successful plaintiff ever. Don't sweat it.


[1 Points] spacetimed:

I would love to hear the conversation of this dude to his aunt:

"Hey auntie hows it going? So I bought 250 xanax bars on the DNM and this guy scammed me, can you fuck him up?"


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] VS_THROWAWAY_REDDIT:

DON'T TRUST HIM. I just got a pack from you professional on all ends (expect for slipping me past BOGO and only getting me 10 extras :( but i digree you guys are awesome and I appreciate what you're doing with all this stupid drama i don't even care if you were bobalax under new alias as some rumors have been circulating (as long as it's true alp this time, last time they gave px1 and ended up jan 1's after halloween in full medical restraints haha black out status.. not typical of a 12+ experienced indiviual first time ever its happened full medical restraints shit made me crzy for a day straight haha but it's all good


[1 Points] None:

wow , if i bought drugs off someone and they scammed me , i wouldn't threaten them. 1 they knw my address 2 i don't know theirs. idiot.


[1 Points] Charlie_Vane:

Appears as if you did get it resolved however you could always send the guy a hotshot. Nothing LETHAL just something to teach him a lesson. i.e. Scopalamine then he will gladly give you all of his money, property, etc! Crazy thing is with that shit people are very happy while assisting you in liquidating everything of value like an eager new employee trying to stand out and impress their new boss!


[1 Points] otistoole:

defecate in a box and send that to him.


[1 Points] BarGoblinGNAR:

WAIT! We can't stop here, this is BAR country...nice PR tho ;-)


[1 Points] AnusDefiler:

Reship him bars laced with pure capsaicin. See if he wants a reship after that. He's obviously bullshitting, if he snitches on you he'll probably just end up getting himself in trouble.


[1 Points] bufferoverflow25:

if what you are saying is true, he is full of shit, trying to get free shit


[1 Points] VS_THROWAWAY_REDDIT:

Barbarossa is the shit.. pack landed today 4 days from click and they'll be all gone tomorrow. You are the man, and I know alot of people like to jump on the BL BF drama/exit scam and maybe i'll catch some slack for this comment but fuck it. Bobafet was always a stand up dude. as for the dude who actually processed and sent out the product who knows he's a bit more bi-polar and manic mood-wise and a taker of his own supply so it's a bit harder to trust him.. wish boba would pick a guy that wasn't so sketch


[1 Points] Radiantlol:

Call his bluff.


[1 Points] Devoid_:

Best thing to do is just ignore him and cut off all contact and call his bluff. I highly doubt his aunt is a circuit judge anywhere and even if she is they can only investigate so far based of hearsay


[1 Points] MyKneeHurtsBadly:

What's he going to tell his aunt? "Hey auntie, I just ordered drugs from the darknet and the drug dealer sent me an empty package, the return address is XXXXXXX. Go after them for me! K, thanks." lol not gonna happen.


[1 Points] fun4dayz:

Well what does ur refund policy states?


[1 Points] lordredvampire:

Suggestion: take a small video (preferred) or picture of a drug being put into the package (use OpSec wisely, scrub the exif data and etc) - be creative. If the buyer tries to dispute and scam you; show the evidence to the arbiter and you will more likely win the dispute.

if anyone got a better idea: I AM ALL EARS.


[1 Points] dasdatsherm:

What a stupid motherfucker

Aunt Linda I bought a bunch of xanax on the darknet and kinda wanted to rip my dealer off, think you can send him to jail so he can shut up?


[1 Points] JohnRabbit:

Don't even trip man, this kid sounds like a bar-tarded hater. He's not gonna call in some favor to a judge lol. Hi aunti jean a random drug dealer on the internet ripped me off, send him to jail!

Highly doubt his aunt is a judge and if she is I doubt it even more that he would go and tell her. Make sure you opsec is tight and you're good to go.


[1 Points] sayyywhuuut:

Judicial connections? LOL Is it me or is the buyer trying too hard with his scam attempt?


[1 Points] Sofakingcoolstorybro:

Lol no way he's going to tell his family member. He'd be incriminating himself.


[1 Points] YungHyperion:

Dude, I'm not one to peer into others affairs and I've taken your bars many times and been fine, but is there any filler you use with your bars, and if so what is it? My girl is having an allergic reaction right now and I need to know ingredients.

Please and thank you.


[1 Points] XanCartel:

man fuck you and your aunt you snitching little cocksucker


[0 Points] playitsafley:

I could copy and paste all of what he said and send it to one of my venders if I was a worthless piece of shit. Don't worry about it. Even though the people on this sub are extremely stupid and would fall for just about anything, you would probably still be okay.


[0 Points] CumberlandGap:

dude you're a vendor, are you saying you're worried about some high schooler threatening to dox you? if you are that doesn't speak well for your competency as a vendor


[0 Points] None:

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[0 Points] reverend234:

What you do is you do some research. You find out the city where he lives. You then find out what court would have jurisdiction if charges were to brought against them. You then draft a letter to the sheriff and possible prosecuting attorneys, all with photos showing them and their positions beside the letter. You take a picture of that, send it to the accused, and you win.


[-1 Points] None:

Give him the 'ol Quantik and send him 250 bars of pressed fent.


[-5 Points] None:

I can call in favors as well man all over the states. If he wants to use politics and judges then let me know because like I've said before connections are keys to winning a war -SupremeG3722


[-18 Points] None:

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