can we all agree on a mandatory color for fentanyl please?

one of the biggest problems right now is with assholes that buy fentanyl on the darknet and then sell it as heroin IRL to unsuspecting users. they also add it to heroin to enhance and make their heroin stronger. the result is accidental death.

we need to standardize this! if all fentanyl sold on the dnm was a certain color (like blue or green), it might save lives. the end users would see blue powder and instantly know it has fentanyl in it. it would take a while for people to know what the color blue means but eventually the word would spread. some people will be assholes and try to remove it but that doesn't mean everyone will.

where would the blue color come from? i'm not a chemist so i don't know. but we have pink cocaine so i'm sure someone can figure it out.

the markets could enforce it. if a vendor is trying to sell fentanyl and it isn't blue then the listing would be removed and the vendor warned.

everyone here is against prohibition. but if we want to have a free market without people dying, we need to join together and regulate this ourselves.

thoughts?


Comments


[17 Points] None:

Won't work


[8 Points] someguynotsome:

This is nice idealistic idea and I'm glad there are people like you in this community. And it's much better than to ban it. I doubt vendors will like this idea though.


[8 Points] hungrywhitey:

This actually sounds like a good idea.


[4 Points] Tiptop100:

All this is gonna do is raise the price of fentanyl on the markets due to the work of dyeing and drying it, and just require anyone who wants to pass it off as heroin or whatever to use cheap ass food dye to make it white again, this solves nothing and if anything just fucks over the people who are dependent on this stuff by upping the price on them, how about you put this energy and creativity to something actually productive, mind your own damn business, and let people make their own decisions with their bodies, if you are this dedicated to regulating DNM fent how about you start up your own market and try seeing if this shit flies, people will just go to another market that doesn't hassle them with this ridiculousness after laughing at the concept, I am getting sick of these people (most likely teenagers ordering LSD/Xans to their parents house) thinking they know better than the professionals who run the markets and making demands when they hold no stake in this and they aren't the ones risking a life of prison time by providing these services to those who want them.


[4 Points] RIP_Meth_9000:

This is all good & I agree 100% with this post, kudos to /u/purpletastesgood for caring enough & seeing there is a big issue with this very deadly substance.

The biggest & main problem is the trade relationship between the U.S. & China. We both need each other. They own our debt, but they need us to buy their cheap ass products.

As long as America has weak ass cock wads in Washington D.C. we will have this problem. FYI....I am talking about both Republicans & Democrats here. We have NO one up there that has any balls to stand up to China & force them to act on this problem. Then we can add on that our customs suck & for every one shipment of fentanyl they catch, at least 50 make it past them, only guessing, but yeah, U.S. Customs is a joke.

The only way to curb the deaths that I see & have supported for 20yrs now is the complete decriminalization of all drugs to a certain weight. With a substance as deadly as fentanly there has to be an extra layer of protection at the POS (Point Of Sale) such as both a verbal warning of the danger of it, plus a how to use sheet that is sent with the end buyer. Now this will not stop people from OD'ing on it or any other drug, but it has been proven to work.

We have a model / 14 Years After Decriminalizing All Drugs, Here's What Portugal Looks Like

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[3 Points] Turd_City_Auto_Group:

You're making the mistake of thinking the lowest echelon of dealers (and possibly higher ups) actually give a shit. They don't. They don't have to - now or in the future.

At the end of the day, smuggling 1 g of that shit is way more attractive than smuggling the equivalent in real heroin. We wouldn't be seeing this shit, otherwise.


[2 Points] weedandsyrup:

It's messed up because if someone buys an Oxy thinking it's something that they're used to but it has fent in it, or a normal dose of H that they're used to that has fent and they get hurt or die. I don't think it should be banned either I just think it should be sold as is not on some shady shit.


[2 Points] nuhyM:

I don't think this will work. Too complicated for vendors to take care.

I do think people 'moroning' in every other post should be banned.


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] LittleMuscles:

That would stop people from selling fake oxys on the street too which is a good thing.


[1 Points] RAAAAAAAAAAAAWR:

It's not perfect but it's better than banning it from the markets


[1 Points] None:

I say green, it's the color of the pills and is recognized as fentanyl almost worldwide. Also lime green will appear super obvious in brown/white powder.

If we can find a cheap way to dye it and get the major markets to take on the policy it could work. Plus, to remove dye seems like it'll take a lot more time and money for dealers so they might just give up due to the economic strains.

Really good idea, OP!


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] RIP_Meth_9000:

Hot Neon Pink Or Green Will Work......


[1 Points] SpiffyWhiff:

It's a noble idea that will fail. If someone wants some white fent to mix with heroin and sell on the street, they're going to find it. Even if you got a market to agree to enforce this, you'd never get them all to do it. If you were a small market owner, wouldn't you want to be the only market selling white fent?

We can't even keep vendors honest enough to stop selective scamming/exit scamming. How are we going to keep them from selling a product that people want?

The only way to solve the Fent crisis is to develop test kits that can tell if your heroin is laced(maybe they already exist). Then we need to make them cheap and distribute them like we do clean needles(at least in states that give a fuck about harm reduction). Street users for the most part don't want Fentanyl, they want clean heroin. Even those who don't care if it's laced will benefit from the knowledge and presumably use a little more carefully.


[1 Points] bunch0fpussies:

Legalize heroin.

That's how we solve this problem....not with powdered kool-aid flavors!


[1 Points] YoMommaRollsMyWeed:

it won't work. there's not just a couple 'fent kingpins' there are shitloads of them, and there will only be more. some of them aren't even fent kingpins, just the dealers getting it direct from the source via a friend or some shit. they shouldn't be cutting with that shit in the first place, even if its diluted to shit

edit: if you're talking about dnms, vendors could do the same thing too and just get it direct from the source instead of someone on the dnm who would charge more, and sell a diluted (colored) product.


[1 Points] None:

Are you stupid? Such a clueless ignorant suggestion.


[1 Points] stilldogman:

Well.... even if it was bright BRIGHT green or something, adding a tiny bit of that (which is all it takes to get high or all it takes to OD) to some H would not show up. Dissolve the h and fent in water, evaporate, scrape up the remains, and sell as-is: nobody would know the difference.

This idea was discussed before in this forum in relation to changing the color, shape, or size of pressed fent pills, but there isn't going to be a way to regulate this - that is the nature of DNMs, and that, in fact, is why we are here. No regulation, no checks or balances, just a free market.


[1 Points] BakedPastaParty:

The fentanyl trade off the DNMs is a small percentage of whats on the street. Its a decent idea on paper, nearly impossible to execute to affect change


[1 Points] Theeconomist1:

Like another poster mentioned, the amount of fent that's lethal is so small that the color of the powder won't make a difference unless someone is buying the powder bulk and it's not in a pill. Now on pills, if it is pressed like an oxy or other pharma there's a reason. Even if the vendor says upfront, it's no accident that it's pressed like a legit pill. Bc these pills WILL be passed down as oxy down the chain. So there is no reason why the vendor would switch the color bc we all know they are going to be sold as oxy somewhere down the chain. They might as well not use an oxy press right?


[1 Points] hardcorewood:

While this sounds like a great idea I have another great idea. Can we get a pipe dream flair up in this sub? I see em all the time and it'd be a funny flair to see


[1 Points] drugfreekid:

You know what works against the dangers of OD'ing on fentanyl? Education and testing. People are dropping like fruit flies over 35 degrees because they're not testing their drugs or they're squeezing out fentanyl juice to get high. Only buy pharmaceutical preparations and stay away from Fentanyl. Not only is the buzz mhh it raises your tolerance so badly that you become dependent on fentanyl potency opioids. Also, don't buy beaucoup amounts of Fentanyl such as 10 grams. You're not building a stash...


[1 Points] Dragunsmoke:

But than dealers would have to be honest. And that is some shit. People will just make anything they put in if the color people want to see eventually. Quickly


[0 Points] CopsGonnaGetU:

YASS!!!!!