Are there any "designer ecstacy" pills on the deep web, as opposed to pure MDMA?

As we all know, street ecstacy is one of the dirtiest, unhealthiest things one can put into one´s body. This of course is due to the other stuff pressed with/instead of the MDMA in the pill, which 9/10 is shit put there so the pill will be cheaper to produce.

However, from my ecstacy-taking days, pre-darknet, I fondly remember a few certain experiences which definitely had an "edge" that pure MDMA does not have. This was of course due to the other ingredients pressed along with the MDMA. I was wondering if anyone on the deep web sold ecstacy tablets that are actually well-made in order to provide a different experience from pure MDMA. Obviously nothing will get you a better experience in terms of empathy/love, but for a few certain events (techno festivals, etc) I actually miss the edge that came from good ecstacy formulas. I kinda believe there is great potential there to be exploited.

tl;dr does anyone make ecstacy pills specifically crafted to give a (relatively) "healthy" speedier experience than pure MDMA?

EDIT: Not sure why the downvote. Downvote is a "the community would be better off without this post", rather than a "disagree" button. Already someone commented to be looking for exactly the same, so obviously there are members in this community who are looking for this very same thing.


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[18 Points] None:

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[12 Points] forgotmypassword1923:

I know exactly what you mean - some years back I had an ecstacy dealer whose stuff was magical. It was mostly MDMA for sure but there was certainly at least one other chemical in it that really kicked the experience up a notch without "dirtying" it or causing significantly worse hangovers. Even taking 250+ mgs of MDMA in a night, though magical in its own way, can't recapture that feeling for me. I thought for the longest time that I had developed some sort of permanent tolerance to MDMA and I'd just never be able to feel like that ever again. However, I recently had the opportunity to try combining MDMA with MDA (took 120 mg of MDMA and 120 mg of MDA an hour later) and, for me, that was exactly what I had been looking for for years. It was like I was rolling for the first time all over again.

I tried MDA on its own once roughly 2 years ago and enjoyed it very much but it felt kind of empty to me, if that makes any sense. And though I love MDMA, it's almost too clean and too easy. But combined, oh man, the lovey dovey empathy and emotional euphoria mixed with the speedy, psychedelic physical euphoria is fantastic. Just thinking about it puts a smile on my face... It would break my heart if I burnt myself out on it. It's almost disappointing that I'm going to have to limit myself to doing it a few times a year, but well worth it! A highly recommended combination for bringing the "magic" back; though it should be noted that MDA is thought to be more neurotoxic than MDMA.


[3 Points] None:

Drug users my age and slightly older have nostalgia almost as annoying as fucking baby boomers


[4 Points] BobbyLite79:

I've been searching for the exact same thing! I had this Statue of Liberty pill back in like 2000 and it changed my life. All the mdma I've done, although great, didn't compare for some reason.


[4 Points] None:

I actually miss the edge that came from good ecstacy formulas.

BTW, there is only ONE way to synthesize MDMA, its not like meth & can be made from whatever one can get his or her hands on. The only acceptable variation would to use PMK oil instead of safrole to make it.

As we all know, street ecstacy is one of the dirtiest, unhealthiest things one can put into one´s body.

How is any pill bought on any market any different than any pill bought on the street??? Both had to be pressed into pill form.

Back in the late 80's & for a most of the 90's I was involved with a lab that produced MDMA, this was in Texas. I understand where you are coming from, I remember what we called the chocolate chip wafer being better than anything we have today. After a lab in Tijuana was busted in 1995, the quality of pills went to shit in the states. And criminals would press anything into a pill & sell it. That action is why MDMA in rock & powder form became so popular. I've tried both pills & MDMA sold as it, I find the better quality to be in raw form.

BTW, MDMA in its pure form is one of the safest drugs on the planet, just in the last 3yrs have the so called smart people decided to continue what was started in the 70's & early 80's in California, in using it to help people.


[2 Points] None:

Most of the good presses you will find are pure mdma(aside from binders)


[2 Points] LivingOnAdrenaline:

I choose a dvd for tonight


[2 Points] morrisontown:

A lot of them were being cut with 4-MMC (4-methyl methcathinone), which has some speed like properties. I would enjoy a MDA and MDMA pill, to me MDMA is not near as magical as MDA.. I like the way MDA is a mixture of LSD and MDMA... I just don't know if theres a good chemist mixing the pure with other additives.. I know local dealers do this with their supply from the darknet and push it onto people who want "molly" because those people dont ever realize, and maybe even some like you prefer it altered. I would suggest reading up there are so many different combinations one could come up with ( check out https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal.shtml ), but the main ones mixed with MDMA are Meth (MA), MDA, Amphetamine, 4-MMC, and maybe a few others... usually used as fillers because their cheaper - a MDA + MDMA mix would probably be more expensive, MDA hasnt really picked up like i think it should, i feel like if all these kids that love molly tried MDA they would want to switch! I feel its much more magical but thats my opinion! Stay safe IDK if i trust someone to make that choice for me and put it into a press, you might become your own chemist just be safe and read a lot! Check out erowid for lots of stories.


[2 Points] ShulginsCat:

I don't know how much of this is nostalgia and how much are real differences in the chemicals used, but unless the chemists of that time will come out of their holes and tell us their secret formula, the only for us to find something new is by experimenting ourselves. If there ever was something other than MDMA in those classic ecstasy pills, its purpose would probably have been - as you say - to keep you stimulated longer.

Meth, suggested here, is actually pretty short in duration (4-6 hrs, according to erowid). Borax has the right idea: Start with a long-lasting stimulant such as 2-FMA (20mg), and make it more emotional with 5-MAPB (50mg). Then, he suggested to mix in a small amount of 5-MeO-MIPT (3mg) to make it trippy and to enhance the tactile. I've tried this with 4-FA and had a fun time, 8-9 hours.

Another option is to try to mix 2-FMA (or another RC stim) with MDMA directly, at maybe 75% of your usual MDMA dose. I've searched for some reviews but haven't found anything. If you've tried this please report!


[1 Points] MrGangGreen:

I also know exactly what you mean. When I first started taking ecstacy I was getting these Pink Mercedes: http://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=2416 which contain a small amount of amphetamine which gives you that charging peak as opposed to the more relaxed peak that mdma alone gives. These were perfect for raves and festivals. In fact any other pill my friends and I got that was just mdma alone were considered "smacky pills" and were undesirable to us (little did we know that the pills contained amphetamine). A lot of my friends to this day still use these pills as the benchmark to which all other pills are compared, even though the mdma content wasn't as high as some pills we have taken since. We were also young as most of you know the magic kind of dies the older you get so it's also a large dose of nostalgia that is included.

IMO buy some amphetamine and mix a small amount into whatever dose of MDMA is good for you (I find 125mg to be perfect for me but we're all different). What you want is just enough so that you're "charging" but not so much as the magic or hypnotic kind of effects aren't dampened by too much. Once you find that perfect balance you will happy I'm sure. All the best.


[1 Points] plutopete:

Caffeine was the most common stimulant found alongside MDMA in the early days :)


[1 Points] None:

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[1 Points] bamoida2:

MDMA/MDA mix pills are really nice if they are mixed in the nice ratio.

4-FA feels like a speedier, less emphatic version of MDMA (at med to high dose, below a certain threshold it doesn't really release much serotonin and is much more of a functional stimulant)

6-APB (aka Benzo fury) is also a bit more speedy than MDMA but it is pretty extinct by now


[1 Points] None:

Cutting x doesnt make it cheaper. X is cheaper than most of the things added to it.


[1 Points] BundleOfSticks69:

TBH I think you're looking for a pill that's about

3 parts MDMA 1 part MDA 1 part Amphetamine 1 part Ketamine (don't know why, but Pokeballs always had trace ket, and they were awesome).


[1 Points] None:

Pretty sure back when pure MDMA wasn't so available, Ecstacy was cut with meth and or dope


[1 Points] Kayubin:

Houselannister back in the SR2 days sold "party press" pills, which he said were ~120 mg of MDMA and ~80 mg of speed paste, but.. I haven't seen anyone since.


[1 Points] bwell1211:

Anyone remember ones from the poke-e-ball (I think that was the name) lab? Whoaa brother


[1 Points] speedfleek:

what you're saying is, you want someone to throw some clean ass amphetamines, possibly methylated, into your bag of molly


[1 Points] DirtyHippy69:

don't bitch about downvotes kid.


[1 Points] Jammy_J:

TL;DR - I want to find a cheaper drug than MDMA to sell as MDMA pills, but at the same price.


[1 Points] None:

them circa 2009 chicago mints. ;)


[0 Points] MultiStringTheory:

I would be intersted in something similar, but with a slower and deeper roll. Best beans I ever had weren't speedy at all. Slow and slightly dissasoiative with intense long rolls. We all just layed back in utter bliss! Of course with the availability and variety of DNMs, all we need to know now is what sort of additives could we mix safely to achieve the different effects we want. Surely someone has an old e-pill recipe book with ratios and such around somewhere to give us some ideas.


[0 Points] None:

2CB is often included in pills these days to produce a little extra visuals. Not much at all but enough. Early Microsofts from TH had some, and some blue Mario mushrooms that were floating around locally


[-1 Points] None:

You have the retiquette mixed up. There's different purposes of down voting between posts and comments.