That "box-opened signaling device they use in controlled deliveries" discussion

They sometimes throw this device into boxes so they know when the box has been opened, my guess it might be simple RF to signal to the cops waiting outside, or more likely cellular/gps so they dont have to. No one on DNMs has ever actually had the bad luck of seeing one of these devices but leaked intel from feds has described its function. Lets say your smart about ordering and dont get stuff sent to your house, you collect from your PO box and now you got this package that they cant watch cause you havent been to your PO in a week and they dont have the resources to watch it, this package has this device in it, its in your car and you assume once you move away from the PO its going to pop up on their computers that its moved and now they will come straight to you. You could also try to take your drugs out at the PO, but these things apparently know when the package has opened (trip wire along the walls of it i guess), so that doesnt work.

So what do you do, put your package in a faraday cage, signal is lost, this might trigger it as well, but at least you dont have to leave evidence behind and you can drive away without being traced. Thats the best i can come up with, no way of knowing if you package has this thing in it and if it does you are fucked if they find you with it. Need more info on what this thing is and how we can defeat.


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[3 Points] SteveLurkell:

I wonder if slicing it open in the middle would help.


[3 Points] areyouthatretarded:

I fail to see why so many people act like you're stupid if you have your shit delivered to your house instead of a PO box. Seems to me a PO box would arouse more suspicion, and that it's a lot harder argue that someone accidentally sent drugs to your locked PO box than that they accidentally sent it to your house.


[3 Points] disquieting:

No one on DNMs has ever actually had the bad luck of seeing one of these devices

http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/1ruxj9/i_was_raided_by_the_federal_government_for/


[2 Points] goodbyeheron:

I've actually thought about the faraday cage idea myself. I had an ex-girlfriend that was a kleptomaniac, which I was not cool with at all, but she used to steal a lot of mac computers. Macs have whatever program installed where the computer will turn its webcam on and record the thief, as well as send signals to the owner about its location. To prevent any signals from being transmitted, while she reformated and wiped the macs so that they were clean, she would sit in a metal dog carrier that she wrapped completely in aluminum foil. She first tested that the cell phone and radio did not work inside her little box, and then did the computers. It seems like if you opened all of your packages in your tinfoil hit hut, you'd come across as an utter paranoid whacko, but you'd probably be thwarting those devices.


[1 Points] Atador:

What about putting every DNM package in the microwave before opening? Would it harm the product?


[1 Points] 234gefg:

You guys are missing a lot of the point here.

if they put something in the package, they know what is in the package. When you open it and then don't call the police is just another thing they are trying to use against you. They are attempting to build a case which will get an easy conviction/allow them to seize whatever.

as far a the actual device goes, its not very likely its a tripwire as you could open any other side. Its far more likely it simply has whatever method to detect an increase in light and then it goes off.

now as to why you want to get around this? doesn't really matter. Lets say best case its a normal box, tripwire across the top flaps. You feel you are more intelligent then a bunch of cops ( you aren't ) and you open the side. You notice a device that's just sitting there, and you have your drugs.

now what?.

Destroy the drugs? keep in mind they already knew they were there. so what are you going to do flush them down? I believe the crime is in progress there, that's destroying evidence. not to mention the prosecutor will directly question why you opened from the side and why would you destroy the drugs and why did you not report anything, and what did you think the device was etc.

Now that all paints a pretty bleak picture, so how does one possibly deal with this?. Don't sign for anything, and leave the packaging sitting by your door with return to sender on the box. DAYS, not a few hours. Police are people, they respond to incentives, they are not going wait outside your door with a drug team for days on end waiting for you to open a package. they will get bored and assume the equipment fucked up and go in. You are in a way better position if you have not attempted to be 007 on the fucking package. Patience and self discipline are the way to go in nearly all things.

You are already at least lightly fucked when anyone knows what you are doing. ANYONE. When the police know what you are doing you are fucked period. The only thing you can do is not make it worse, don't say shit, and let the lawyer do his job.


[1 Points] Derrick4Real:

I guess I'm the only lucky one that has actually received one of these via controlled delivery.

I brought this up the other day in a thread and someone suggest I do an AMA on the subject.

However, The Feds got me importing into the country about 6 years before the DNMs were around. So there wasn't much interest in the topic.

So while we're on the topic, go ahead and AMA about my controlled delivery and the tracking device in it.


[1 Points] becarefulSR:

C'mon guys this is easy. You need to destroy the device, but not the drugs, without opening the package.

  1. Wrap the package in tinfoil.

  2. Walk/drive to different location.

  3. Stomp all over tin foil covered package. If stomping on your drugs is unacceptable, refer to 3a.

3a. Soak package in water. Your drugs should be vacuum sealed so they'll be fine.


[-6 Points] None:

ou do, put your package in a faraday cage,

omfg. please tell me i am in a lucid dream gone bad?

you fuckimng retards need to get off my onion now beofre i lose the last of my buzz. fucking dopehead pricks.