UPDATE: TripWithScience's "Liquid Psilocybin" test; New method, seems confirmed to me.

I took the advice from my previous thread, allowed the liquid to evaporate on white ceramic, and tested the precipitate. It had much, much clearer results.

As I'm sure everyone will want to comment, you can't know absolutely definitely the composition of the liquid without performing GC on it. However, this is what I can afford, and it's conclusive enough for me to decide that I will consume the product.

Ehrlich at 1 minute: http://itmb.co/1fc4r

Ehrlich at 3 minutes: http://itmb.co/v2vz3

Marquis at 1 minute: http://itmb.co/bf7wq

Marquis at 3 minutes: http://itmb.co/zzh85

In my personal, unexperienced, uneducated-in-chemistry opinion, the liquid is legitimate. The ehrlich purple was deep and fairly immediate. The marquis result was a solid brown (no green shades), pretty much instantaneously. I wasn't able to get a good picture of the 3-minute marquis reaction. In my photo, it looks black, but it was actually a deep brown. From what I've read, 4-AcO-DMT would have been lighter/greener. Once again, to know for sure it would need to be sent in for GC.

In my opinion, the liquid is legitimately what Trip says it is (a shroom tincture, therefore "liquid psilocybin"), and I will be ingesting it eagerly!

I hope that my effort will be useful for anyone trying to decide whether or not to purchase.


Comments


[45 Points] TripWithScience:

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Wow! Hey thanks OP! 


I really, REALLY appreciate the hard work you put into this effort. I just had someone 
email me a link to your previous post (which is very thorough), and I want to thank you 
for not only how careful you were in this test, but how well you documented your results. 


I look forward to hearing your trip report from taking my liquid! :)


On another note, I am VERY willing to reimburse you for the expenses of your reagents, 
supplies, as well as the mushroom extract you used to test. Considering the amount of
money and work you put into this, it's the least I can do. I'll write you about it.


And for fellow DNM redditors: how about a celebration sale? Mention the coupon code 
'4REALSIES' and I'll throw in an extra vial with your order, haha.


Thanks again,


Trip
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[9 Points] DNMd:

I've always had 4-AcO show up as dark dirty green on marquis, I'd say this is quite strong evidence that it's actually a mushroom extract.


[8 Points] Yourconscious69:

Thanks for your work! Glad you got this worked out.


[8 Points] whiteyno1:

I am so glad that my advice to evaporate the liquid was effective.


[7 Points] Usagii_YO:

Extracting psilocybin from mushrooms into liquid form is super easy.


[3 Points] whatholyland:

About time all this was decided on! Never tried it or anything but was hoping for the vendors sake at least, that it would be legit :) Good work


[4 Points] AaronTheBear:

If I continue onto graduate school I will have full access to a GC machine and I plan to use it to test a few things in this nature. I'll update this post if that happens


[2 Points] None:

have you tried it yet, does it feel like shrooms?


[2 Points] Chilled_DNM:

Sounds about right. Thanks for the share! I'm still iffy about trying it, though.


[2 Points] None:

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[2 Points] throwawayfordnmrevie:

Update: Here's my trip report, which I recently commented on in someone else's more recent TripWithScience vendor review post.

I recently reagent-tested the content of Trip's vials. I have been meaning to get back on and post my own trip report, but for reasons that will shortly become apparent, I've been a little slow about logging back on.

I also was inexperienced with shrooms, decided to try the "easy" route, and was initially disappointed when I consumed only one vial and received a response similar to yours. I do have an incredibly high tolerance to absolutely everything I touch somehow, so I thought I'd triple it. At 3 vials, I definitely felt the trip, but... it wasn't exactly what I was looking for. SO, I did this:

I have strong, debilitating anxieties about faith and death and the inevitability of one day no longer existing (at least in the way I know it). It was for that reason I wanted to have a few spiritual trips, to feel out the waters of consciousness and otherness (and blah blah). It was heavily researched, and set/setting were very carefully controlled for. My playlist was based on Erowid's trip guide suggestions, tailored to my own intent for the trip of course. I had a well-versed, prepared tripsitter.

-I first soaked all six vials in a cup of lemon juice for twenty minutes. I filled the glass with OJ and drank in about thirty minutes.

-Within another 30, I began to see the effects, especially in the vividness of colors. My tripsitter got me in for one last bathroom break, and I settled happily with my upbeat music into my safe spot. I put on an eye mask and was having a lot of fun. I was feeling all the furniture around me (blindfolded) and my brain was exploring the concept of length and width and texture.

-About an hour and fifteen minutes in (measured by how much music had passed), my more spiritual, meditative music kicked in. I was not playing anymore at this point, and was starting to feel as though all of the events of my life (past, present, and future) were all collapsed into one single unit, all simultaneous. Not a unit of time though, because I couldn't understand time anymore. Neither could I understand distance. All of the places I had been and people I had known all converged on this one single point. It felt as though I was reliving and reunderstanding all of the events of my life, my young life especially. It wasn't pleasant, but it wasn't unpleasant either. I was peaceful but very confused. I couldn't perceive that there had ever been any sensation other than this all-singly-converged time and space. I tried to remember to the lifetimes past when things had a routine, a morning and night, a job and home, but I couldn't remember them, because in reality none of them existed. It was very disorienting, because my brain had never perceived reality in this way before, but at the same time believed it could never have perceived it in any other way.

-At the second spiritual song, things shifted dramatically. Probably egged on by the perceptual disorientation just mentioned, I tried to understand what I was feeling. I realized I was feeling what it felt like when you die. At that point, instead of exploring that, I panicked, remembering "die" is a bad thing. "Die" means you don't exist anymore, and that's a horrible thing somehow. But then "die" could also mean God, my far-far-far away brain piped in. By that time, though, I was scared, so it was all scary. Dying, existing, not existing, God, no God, I was terrified. For me, of course, I perceived that nebulous half-nothingness for millions of years. Then something told me that I could stop it.

-At the end of the second song, I tore off my eye mask and insisted that my tripsitter make it stop. Trying to stick to the script, tripsitter attempted to change my music (to take me back to the "good trip" place). It's here that I have to note that, had I been able to calm down, I'm sure I could have switched bad back to good; however, with this being only the third trip I'd taken and the first I'd ever really felt, I was scared and anxious and thinking about it strictly medically. I was inconsolable, much like I become when I have panic attacks about the same thing not-high. We had two Valium on standby, and tripsitter fed me both. I could not be calmed, though, and just wanted to go back to not feeling any of it. I didn't want the bad, but I didn't want the good either. I could vaguely remember there was something else, that if I could stop feeling the way I felt right now, there was another way to feel.

-At about two and a half hours in, not sure how long after the 10mg Valium, tripsitter starts feeding me heavy carbs to get something on my stomach to lessen the severity of the trip. It was not happening fast enough for me. I was having a (familiar) panic attack, but I couldn't understand what a panic attack was.

-Sometime later, maybe five minutes, maybe half an hour, I don't know, tripsitter (very begrudgingly mind you, tripsitter thought they could bring me back around to good tripping) helped me force an entire spatula handle down my throat until I vomited the entire contents of my stomach. I had fasted, so it was only the OJ and the bread I'd just been fed.

-(Around 3 hours in) throwing up felt some better, but now that my blindfold was off, I was also having to perceive my real life around me, which led to further panic. I did understand that there was something I had consumed that was causing me to feel this way. Convinced that getting an IV of saline started and opening it all the way up was the only way to feel better, I screamed at tripsitter until they gave in to "take me to the emergency room". Lucky for tripsitter (and me, who rationally would not want to go to the ER), being outside was way too stimulating for me, and I was no longer able to focus on how scary it was to know what it felt like when time and location didn't exist. I still insisted it needed to stop and needed to be out of my system, but tripsitter kept saying that it was a bad idea to go to the ER. Finally I insisted tripsitter take me and get me the nastiest, fattiest cheeseburger and fries we could find.

-From around three and a half hours in, my goal was to stuff as many fries into myself as I could. I was still convinced that I could seriously dull the trip by having a large, complex (molecularly-speaking) meal.

-At around four hours in, I was back down to either a high Level 3 or low Level 4. Tripsitter took me into the backyard, we discussed plants and plans I have for my house. We sit down on the ground and talk more about moss (of which I am quite fond). I am relieved to report to tripsitter that I am feeling much better. Tripsitter insists that if we go to a park and walk more that it'll work its way even more through my system.

-Hour five was enjoying the park and throwing tennis balls. I convinced tripsitter to take me to a discount housewares store, and I began to have a lot of fun again. Everything was beautiful and made of burlap and tin and made fun sounds when I knocked on it and felt great when I touched it.

-Hour six, I convinced tripsitter I needed nachos. I became very introspective, already trying to analyze the experience (even though I was still really, really, really high). Tripsitter took me home, and slowly over the following two hours I came back down. I loved all of humanity, and I loved my pets. I was apologetic to the world for my poor attitude and had a very positive outlook for new opportunities upon which I'm hoping to embark in the near future.

-The following day was really just very jarring and disorienting. I had spent all this non-time, billions of years possibly, perceiving existence in this non-space, and now I was struggling to understand regular perception.

-For the next several days I was afraid to sleep. I was afraid to have any change in my state of consciousness at all. I was afraid of that place that I was been and wanted very much to stay in my however-falsely-constructed reality

-Since the trip, my panic attacks regarding death and the beyond have returned severely, triggered by really weird things like seeing how old a famous celebrity looks or thinking about the future.

All in all, I guess it was simultaneously the best, worst, most beautiful, most horrible, most relaxing, and most terrifying thing I've ever done. I'm not curious anymore, at least not for now. For now, I'm going to stick to the philosophy that our minds have a limited perceptive capability for a reason, that chiefly being that we can't possibly conceive the Other that there is. I think it was a very important experience for me to have, and I thank TripWithScience for creating a tincture that I could consume without having the unpleasant mushroom taste or nausea. That really set the beginning of the trip off really well. If I ever decide to do this again, given my above experience, I won't be buying anything except Trip's tincture.

Now I'm going to go and live my life, do my daily thing, and try and think extrovertively instead of introvertively. Thanks for all the fish, /r/DNMs.

~Just Another Throwaway

Note: I didn't want to read through this after I typed it, so it could have incomplete thoughts, typos, whatever. Take it for the overall meaning instead.


[1 Points] mingerginger:

Nice work. I agree with you that the product is most likely exactly what he says it is.


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[1 Points] billbar:

Those vials are the absolute bomb. Thanks for doing the research.


[1 Points] DaveBowmanX:

Wouldn't the citrus in the OJ decrease the trip? Ive heard that citrus calms a trip down, is that even true?


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[0 Points] basshead555:

I don't believe this to be 4 aco dmt or legit psilocybin. Have you investigated 4 ho met or any of the functional anolougues of psilocybin or psilocin. 4 aco dmt isn't structurally that close


[-5 Points] noonehear:

LOL fuckers deserving what they get. It's still a good time despite its price.... A TRIP IS ALWAYS CHEAPER THAN A NIGHT OUT AT THE BARS!!!


[-5 Points] noonehear:

Differnetiate between 4-ACO-DMT and psilocybin. Until you have lab to lab data next to each other I will keep eating whatever I choose.

Fracking useless post. Is HouseOfSpirit or BlueViking involved in this FUD?


[-5 Points] noonehear:

Why is a consumer providing proof and not the vendor? WTF? Seriously WTF?