[PSA/Article] Ordered from NL and/or scared of a controlled delivery by DEA, FBI, ...? PLEASE READ THIS!

It seems that people become anxious of getting caught because they ordered from NL or because their vendor might be compromised. If you really think that sooner or later the FBI or DEA will knock at your door, follow these simple steps:

Should I sign for the package/mail if asked to?

Yes.

If a CD (controlled delivery) is in place to happen, you're going to get arrested. Maybe not at that point in time if you refuse to sign, but it will happen. If they have made the decision to CD you, they aren't gonna let you off the hook if you refuse to sign. Plus not signing can look suspicious.

To begin with, signing for a package doesn't make you guilty. Its the courts job to prove that you asked for the package, and signing for a package does not prove this.

The only reason postal services have you sign is to say that you received the package, and that they have done their job. It's a standard practice that many spread a lot of FUD about.

So why are there so many people on the "don't Sign" boat? Not signing make you feel like you have a say in the most dangerous part of the darknet process. People are paranoid and anxious, and want a say in what's happening around them. Once the package is out however, there is little any person can do.

TL;DR: refusing to sign isn't going to change anything, and possibly will make you look more suspicious. What's going to happen is beyond your control.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarketsNoobs/wiki/postsysanddrops#wiki_should_i_sign_for_the_package.2Fmail_if_asked_to.3F

Good luck to all of you!


Comments


[7 Points] None:

it dosent matter how fucking suspicious you look as YOU QUOTED "Its the courts job to prove that you asked for the package"


[8 Points] rucerius:

So you live in Austria, but you are giving advice on dealing with the DEA and FBI. Bad advice as well. You are the worst kind of stupid. Please, just shut up. See quote from stupid guy's profile below.

"The country I live in offers government sponsored lab tests for almost all (illegal) recreational/party drugs. You bring them a sample, they have a little talk with you about danger and harm reduction and a week later you the lab results back. All full anonymously and 100% free.

And the drug laws rock too, following amouts are considered "small quantity":

20g THC (80-300g weed)
15g Cocaine
30g MDMA
3g Psilocybin (again, 3g of the active chemical substance)
0,01g LSD (= 10000µg)

Full list: https://www.ris.bka.gv.at/GeltendeFassung.wxe?Abfrage=Bundesnormen&Gesetzesnummer=10011056 Free drug checking service: http://www.checkyourdrugs.at/

Austria rocks!"


[6 Points] DNMd:

Remove all physical evidence (smartphones, laptops, drugs, paraphernalia, etc.) from your house ASAP. Don't just delete stuff, remove the devices

To expand on this: When deleting files/folders/programs/etc from your device none of the data is actually removed from the drive. Its place in the index (basically what points to and tells your computer where files are located on a drive) is simply deleted so eventually it will be overwritten when the hard drive space is needed. You can use tools to overwrite this empty space and truly format a hard drive.


[3 Points] Taylorswiftfan69:

Have your cyanide pill ready just in case.


[2 Points] blackflag909:

No by signing for it you legally aknowedge that you are taking possession if the package so regardless of if you knew about it or not your still in possession. Please people do not listen to this. The legal system is slanted to let Leo do whatever they want and your screwed either way


[1 Points] SecondChanceUsername:

They can't convict you based on something that you do 'looking suspicious'. Not that i disagree, because the sign/dont sign conundrum is one of the most hotly debated on the DN. If a postman came to my door and i had to sign(or refuse to sign), and i had to pick one, id probably sign. I would sign, then throw the pack inside my house. And try and leave the house immediately afterwards. Like i would try and leave the place at the same time as the postman. Because LE likes to get that Signature, and then bust you as soon as they think you've opened it(take possession) but if its unopened, AND your house is clean AND you leave the residence before they kick the door down, then you're not there, the pack is unopened and it will be hard to prove intent, based on signature, but no possession. TL,DR Get TF off the property that is going to be CD'd ASAP. If you're not IN POSSESSION of narcotics, then its hard to build a case for POSSESSION or INTENT, even with your signature.