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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: brockeh on August 27, 2011, 04:54 pm

Title: first time on coke
Post by: brockeh on August 27, 2011, 04:54 pm
i tried a little tonight, it was good but not great.

i did something around 40mg at first over afew mins in very small lines, felt it ok but got abit of a headache and felt like my face was really flushed, like red and hot (common?) got abit introverted (wasnt expecting that haha) just kinda chilled and felt pretty alert.
about an hour and a half later i did around 60-70mg and defiantly felt it a lot more, it was pretty good, talkative, active and abit assertive i noticed hehe but still abit underwhelming. i think i just didnt do enough

for reference: im a 90kg male, was smoking weed with it but not heaps and im a v regular smoker. its tetravorts stuff but might not be current batch, shipping took forever to aus.

thinking about it i really should of made this thread beforehand but ive still got most of the gram left for another time, was keen to hear any advice that anyone who loves coke wanted to give me. ive done abit of reading but still would say i dont know much about it.

but yeah advice/thoughts/safety stuff/any info for the coke noob plz haha

also i already know having sex on it is the best idea ever :D
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: watmm on August 27, 2011, 07:08 pm
Unless you have confidence issues, coke is pretty underwhelming for the most part imo.
Greed in substance form. Meh. Move along.
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: redtide on August 27, 2011, 07:32 pm
Unless you have confidence issues, coke is pretty underwhelming for the most part imo.
Greed in substance form. Meh. Move along.

That greedy craving "coke monkey"  feeling isn't the C, it's the cut.
Usually amphetamines of some sort.
It's too bad most folks have never had good stuff. It's euphoric.
I had some yesterday. A smallish line lasted 3 hours, of warm euphoric buzz
with no cravings.

Try tetravort or movitnice's stuff.

Then judge.
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: watmm on August 27, 2011, 09:30 pm
Yeah i was aware i've probably never had good stuff, but 3 hours? That's good to know.
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: redtide on August 28, 2011, 05:54 pm
Yeah i was aware i've probably never had good stuff, but 3 hours? That's good to know.

yes. I have a ball of it, have done it twice so far and haven't gotten through an eighth of a gram.

magnificent stuff.
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: Fred Flintstone on August 30, 2011, 02:19 am
Good coke is really rare, but can be enjoyable now and then. Most of the coke out there tends to be cut to death. The euphoria from good coke is hard to beat (high dose methylone comes really close) but bad coke is just crap. I associate coke with being dirty, greedy, euphoric, filled with false emotions and ending with a tragic crash

Unless you have confidence issues, coke is pretty underwhelming for the most part imo.
Greed in substance form. Meh. Move along.

Haha yeah, the worst is being around someone who is coked out of their mind - white froth forming in the corners of their mouth as they jabber passionately about anything on their mind. Sneaking key bumps, hoping nobody will see them and ask to try some. Everything is amazing, you are on top of the world until that slight feeling of doubt. Your heart feels a sudden drop and you know the crash is starting so you pour yourself a tall whiskey with a splash of coke and brace yourself. Need I say more?
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: watmm on August 30, 2011, 11:03 am
Need I say more?

There's also the indirect harm caused to everyone that depends on the Amazon (i.e. everyone).
...made in no small part because it's stupidly illegal in the first place and => unregulated.
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: Greynick on September 09, 2011, 06:49 am
the trick is to have cola with alcohol ... your liver processes the coke and the alcohol into a new chemical - cocaethylene

cocaethylene has a longer plasma elimination half life than straight cocaine. (Lasts 2-3 times long)

it also increases the dopamine reuptake inhibition and reduces the serotonin and norepinephrine reuptake that occurs with just coke alone.

that's why sex on coke and alcohol is so good ... and why the euphoria is so intense.

you have to be careful though .. cocaethylene is also much more neuro/cardio/hepaptic etc toxic than just plain coke alone ... you're 3-4 times more likely to die from a drug induced ischemic myocardial infarction (heart attack) as cocaethylene is an even more powerful vasoconstrictor than straight cocaine.   

but its better to burn out .. than to fade away :)

grey
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: towelie on September 09, 2011, 08:56 am


you have to be careful though .. cocaethylene is also much more neuro/cardio/hepaptic etc toxic than just plain coke alone ... you're 3-4 times more likely to die from a drug induced ischemic myocardial infarction (heart attack) as cocaethylene is an even more powerful vasoconstrictor than straight cocaine.   

but its better to burn out .. than to fade away :)

grey

Harm reduction.  R e d u c t i o n.
besides, mixing in copious amounts of booze with your coke really takes the lead out of your pencil. :-[
be safe
T
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: Greynick on September 09, 2011, 09:21 am


you have to be careful though .. cocaethylene is also much more neuro/cardio/hepaptic etc toxic than just plain coke alone ... you're 3-4 times more likely to die from a drug induced ischemic myocardial infarction (heart attack) as cocaethylene is an even more powerful vasoconstrictor than straight cocaine.   

but its better to burn out .. than to fade away :)

grey

Harm reduction.  R e d u c t i o n.
besides, mixing in copious amounts of booze with your coke really takes the lead out of your pencil. :-[
be safe
T

Did I say copious amounts?

IMHO its a subjective value judgement about balance ...

There is always going to be a "harm profile" and yes, we should reduce where possible ..

If you jump off a building with a parachute, you can go ankles down or head first :) Just don't forget to pull the cord.

It is a different experience for women .. no pencil = ....

Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: brockeh on September 09, 2011, 02:41 pm
got a little off topic there but this is good, afew beers will help effects. anything else mix nicely?

i found i was ending up with alot of coke sliding down the back of my throat, is it still active via the stomach? should i be chopping it more? or doing smaller lines a few mins apart? what sort of initial dose would you recommend for a 90kg male with no tolerance to get fuckkkked up? :D (teravorts stuff) and in mg please, "2 thin lines 2cm long" could be anything really

thanks heaps people
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: Greynick on September 09, 2011, 10:39 pm
got a little off topic there but this is good, afew beers will help effects. anything else mix nicely?

i found i was ending up with alot of coke sliding down the back of my throat, is it still active via the stomach? should i be chopping it more? or doing smaller lines a few mins apart? what sort of initial dose would you recommend for a 90kg male with no tolerance to get fuckkkked up? :D (teravorts stuff) and in mg please, "2 thin lines 2cm long" could be anything really

thanks heaps people

oral uptake is about 30% compared to 60% via nasal / or even IV (surprisingly)

heat the chopping surface (plate?) up - but not too much - 30 seconds in the microwave on high .. chop it up REALLY fine on the quite warm plate - lumps = bad ... 2cm for TV's gear is fine.

I drink vodka - doubles .. I'll have 2 then a few lines (one in each nostril) .. rinse and repeat until you feel really cruisy - don't overdo it .. you'll know when generally - there's a law of diminishing returns once your plasma saturation is past a certain point .. plus there are tolerance issues

All the best to you ..

Grey
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: towelie on September 10, 2011, 12:46 am


you have to be careful though .. cocaethylene is also much more neuro/cardio/hepaptic etc toxic than just plain coke alone ... you're 3-4 times more likely to die from a drug induced ischemic myocardial infarction (heart attack) as cocaethylene is an even more powerful vasoconstrictor than straight cocaine.   

but its better to burn out .. than to fade away :)

grey

Harm reduction.  R e d u c t i o n.
besides, mixing in copious amounts of booze with your coke really takes the lead out of your pencil. :-[
be safe
T

Did I say copious amounts?

IMHO its a subjective value judgement about balance ...

There is always going to be a "harm profile" and yes, we should reduce where possible ..

If you jump off a building with a parachute, you can go ankles down or head first :) Just don't forget to pull the cord.

It is a different experience for women .. no pencil = ....
no, you didn't say copious. 
I was just thinking that as a beginner they probably shouldn't jump right into the medium-advanced category.
I would say it is quite different for a woman too.  My girlfriend back when I was using coke wouldn't let me leave or sleep or do anything else until we took care of business :D
Once again, be safe. Especially when dealing with this particular animal.
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: username100 on September 11, 2011, 09:04 am
got a little off topic there but this is good, afew beers will help effects. anything else mix nicely?

i found i was ending up with alot of coke sliding down the back of my throat, is it still active via the stomach? should i be chopping it more? or doing smaller lines a few mins apart? what sort of initial dose would you recommend for a 90kg male with no tolerance to get fuckkkked up? :D (teravorts stuff) and in mg please, "2 thin lines 2cm long" could be anything really

thanks heaps people

oral uptake is about 30% compared to 60% via nasal / or even IV (surprisingly)

IV = 100%

always

it is the definition...

so its
oral: 30%
nasal: 60%
IV: 100%
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: Greynick on September 17, 2011, 03:21 am
got a little off topic there but this is good, afew beers will help effects. anything else mix nicely?

i found i was ending up with alot of coke sliding down the back of my throat, is it still active via the stomach? should i be chopping it more? or doing smaller lines a few mins apart? what sort of initial dose would you recommend for a 90kg male with no tolerance to get fuckkkked up? :D (teravorts stuff) and in mg please, "2 thin lines 2cm long" could be anything really

thanks heaps people

oral uptake is about 30% compared to 60% via nasal / or even IV (surprisingly)

IV = 100%

always

it is the definition...

so its
oral: 30%
nasal: 60%
IV: 100%

Incorrect. Uptake is the absorption by a tissue of a substance/mineral/food and its retention. You can have a lot of a substance in your bloodstream but it may not be in your brain cells.

Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: Sugarbowl on September 17, 2011, 08:41 am
The power is in the subtlety my man. The cocaine experience is just that--underwhelming. What with all the glamor and rumors going around about how great it is, people can't help but have way too high of expectations for it. For me, it's basically like operating at 110% after I just found out I aced a really hard test. You're happy, and you're on point. Doesn't seem like much, but wait until a day or two later. You will remember the experience and be like "fuuuuck that was really awesome I need to get more blow." My problem is, I'm totally fine without it so long as I know it's readily accessible should I feel like taking some. When it's not there... that's when you start missing it like an ex-girlfriend or your childhood pet.

"It's not even that great, so why can't I stop thinking about it?!" -every cokehead ever
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: username100 on September 18, 2011, 11:02 pm
got a little off topic there but this is good, afew beers will help effects. anything else mix nicely?

i found i was ending up with alot of coke sliding down the back of my throat, is it still active via the stomach? should i be chopping it more? or doing smaller lines a few mins apart? what sort of initial dose would you recommend for a 90kg male with no tolerance to get fuckkkked up? :D (teravorts stuff) and in mg please, "2 thin lines 2cm long" could be anything really

thanks heaps people

oral uptake is about 30% compared to 60% via nasal / or even IV (surprisingly)

IV = 100%

always

it is the definition...

so its
oral: 30%
nasal: 60%
IV: 100%

Incorrect. Uptake is the absorption by a tissue of a substance/mineral/food and its retention. You can have a lot of a substance in your bloodstream but it may not be in your brain cells.

Incorrect. I'm right, you're wrong. Look it up.

Here's a head start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioavailability
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: voodoomonkey on September 20, 2011, 10:29 pm
i tried a little tonight, it was good but not great.

i did something around 40mg at first over afew mins in very small lines, felt it ok but got abit of a headache and felt like my face was really flushed, like red and hot (common?) got abit introverted (wasnt expecting that haha) just kinda chilled and felt pretty alert.
about an hour and a half later i did around 60-70mg and defiantly felt it a lot more, it was pretty good, talkative, active and abit assertive i noticed hehe but still abit underwhelming. i think i just didnt do enough

for reference: im a 90kg male, was smoking weed with it but not heaps and im a v regular smoker. its tetravorts stuff but might not be current batch, shipping took forever to aus.

thinking about it i really should of made this thread beforehand but ive still got most of the gram left for another time, was keen to hear any advice that anyone who loves coke wanted to give me. ive done abit of reading but still would say i dont know much about it.

but yeah advice/thoughts/safety stuff/any info for the coke noob plz haha

also i already know having sex on it is the best idea ever :D

i go through 3.5 grams per night out lol....unless its really good stuff like flake....maybe try a bit more in each line next time
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: obama on September 22, 2011, 04:29 am
can you smoke tetravorts stuff? like in a vaporizer of glass pipe? whats the difference between smoking and snorting?

Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: Greynick on September 22, 2011, 01:07 pm
can you smoke tetravorts stuff? like in a vaporizer of glass pipe? whats the difference between smoking and snorting?

Stick to snorting. Smoking is really for the advanced class.



PS username100 - your cursory understanding of biochemistry makes me lol

DEFINITION
up·take (ptk)
n.
The absorption by a tissue of a substance, such as a nutrient, and its permanent or temporary retention.


Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: username100 on September 22, 2011, 03:28 pm
PS username100 - your cursory understanding of biochemistry makes me lol

DEFINITION
up·take (ptk)
n.
The absorption by a tissue of a substance, such as a nutrient, and its permanent or temporary retention.

1st, it's pharmacology, not biochemistry.

2nd, You probably don't know shit about either.

3rd, So shut up

4th, you don't know what Bioavailability means

5th, I do because I have a degree in pharmacoogy

6th "In pharmacology, bioavailability (BA) is a subcategory of absorption and is used to describe the fraction of an administered dose of unchanged drug that reaches the systemic circulation, one of the principal pharmacokinetic properties of drugs. By definition, when a medication is administered intravenously, its bioavailability is 100 %."

7th, In case you can't read, that says that IV = 100% by definition

8th suck my penis!

9th keep sucking it!

10th, YEAH BABY I'M COMING

11th There's jizz in your hair.
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: Greynick on September 23, 2011, 07:00 am
PS username100 - your cursory understanding of biochemistry makes me lol

DEFINITION
up·take (ptk)
n.
The absorption by a tissue of a substance, such as a nutrient, and its permanent or temporary retention.

1st, it's pharmacology, not biochemistry.

2nd, You probably don't know shit about either.

3rd, So shut up

4th, you don't know what Bioavailability means

5th, I do because I have a degree in pharmacoogy

6th "In pharmacology, bioavailability (BA) is a subcategory of absorption and is used to describe the fraction of an administered dose of unchanged drug that reaches the systemic circulation, one of the principal pharmacokinetic properties of drugs. By definition, when a medication is administered intravenously, its bioavailability is 100 %."

7th, In case you can't read, that says that IV = 100% by definition

8th suck my penis!

9th keep sucking it!

10th, YEAH BABY I'M COMING

11th There's jizz in your hair.

There you go again, making me LOL :)
Title: Re: first time on coke
Post by: theOCguy on September 25, 2011, 03:47 pm
Cocaethylene is a must, but absolutely with no exageration.
W/ TV's stuff i have no need of a benzos to sleep, maybe the best coke I ever had in almost 10 year of use.

My advice is use coke in a small party with real friends, maybe watching Blow! :D
"allright men, get another one!" asd