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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: 96z28dude on June 29, 2012, 01:02 pm

Title: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: 96z28dude on June 29, 2012, 01:02 pm
Okay so I am expecting the FBI to be at house today to talk to me about something, because for the past two days these two men in suits have came to my house but I was sleeping both times  :P Anyways I recently ordered 50 grams of 4-mec off of the internet and it is currently on its way to my friends place. If it really is the FBI which I am damn sure it probably is after everything I've read today, what should I say if they ask me what I am going to do with 50 grams of 4-mec? I dont think saying "oh, its for personal use" is a good idea. Should I say I'm going to use it to fragrant my bath water?  ;D or should I just say "I don't feel comfortable answering your questions without a lawyer present"?
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: Kappacino on June 29, 2012, 01:11 pm
Don't listen to anything else posted here other than this:

SAY NOTHING. NOT A SINGLE WORD. DON'T EVEN OPEN THE DOOR.

If they really want to talk to you, they'll break the door down. (make sure your house/computer is clean) In which case, only say "I want a lawyer".. and NOTHING ELSE until your lawyer gets there.

That's all you need to know. You don't owe them any answers whatsoever
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: 96z28dude on June 29, 2012, 01:17 pm
Don't listen to anything else posted here other than this:

SAY NOTHING. NOT A SINGLE WORD. DON'T EVEN OPEN THE DOOR.

If they really want to talk to you, they'll break the door down. (make sure your house/computer is clean) In which case, only say "I want a lawyer".. and NOTHING ELSE until your lawyer gets there.

That's all you need to know. You don't owe them any answers whatsoever

Okay, but I really would like to answer the door because I live at home with my mom and if they come tomorrow (which she will be at home tomorrow and not at work) she will let them in the house to talk to me. I think I should just go outside and tell them my name and not answer any of their questions. I'll just say "I respectfully decline your questions until my lawyer is present".
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: Limetless on June 29, 2012, 01:27 pm
LOL that is a gross misconception my friend and you are getting cocky for no good reason. The analogue laws in the U.S mean that they can prosecute you as-and-when they can be arsed or have a decent reason to. Now I would be even more worried if I were you because the fact the FBI and not just some local LE is coming means they have probably twigged you got it from here OR from one of those zany RC forums that have just been shut down. I would not be surprised if they threw SR into the mix and tried to flip you.

Also the fact you have identified what you got and how much was a bit of bad judgement too, anyone watching this can print screen and then run through their agency files and match you to this account now.

I would strip your house clean NOW and change all posts NOW and hope to Christ no damage is done.
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: Kappacino on June 29, 2012, 01:31 pm
You left out the part about you living at home with your parents

I'd follow Lims advice. And if you do have to talk to them, for christ sake don't make up any absurd cover story or any ridiculous nonsense out of fear. Ask for a lawyer and that's it
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: Duckman on June 29, 2012, 01:50 pm
They could be Jehovah's witnesses!

Two men in suits knock on the door, the only possible explanation is that this is the FBI, no other human beings wear suits and knock on doors.

Really?

Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: 96z28dude on June 29, 2012, 01:58 pm
They could be Jehovah's witnesses!

Two men in suits knock on the door, the only possible explanation is that this is the FBI, no other human beings wear suits and knock on doors.

Really?

I don't think Jehovah's witnesses would come to my house 2 days in a row at the exact same time and only my house! Not my neighbors house or anyone elses... only mine. Kinda weird.
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: Kappacino on June 29, 2012, 02:02 pm
They could be Jehovah's witnesses!

Two men in suits knock on the door, the only possible explanation is that this is the FBI, no other human beings wear suits and knock on doors.

Really?

Lol, you're right. It could also be the CIA, the NSA, MI5, or Mossad.

Just a heads up OP, you might want to start learning the hebrew for "lawyer" just in case
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: Vr00mVr0om on June 29, 2012, 02:42 pm
im no LE but im pretty sure anytime any officer of any kind has ever come to any home I've ever heard of, or place of business for that matter, they either busted in the door and shot a flash-bang (like someone already mentioned) or they leave a card and tell whoever there or if no one is there they are sure to leave a card saying CALL me. I wouldn't worry if I was you, the feds really don't have time to be fucking with RC's especially not 50g and they certainly aren't gonna make 2 house calls without talking to anyone or without leaving something so that you can contact them(so they can stop making house-calls) I would assume its a lot of other people before I assumed it was any form of Fed, unless of course there's something your leaving out... good luck
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: foxymeow on June 29, 2012, 02:45 pm
Kind of hard to prove 4-MEC was for human consumption when its not even in your possession.

Just ignore it, and don't even qualify it. Its an RC, they aren't going to go after some super small time buyer. 50g of 4-MEC is such a hilariously small order.
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: 96z28dude on June 29, 2012, 02:54 pm
Honestly, it could be just two assholes trying to sell me some shit  >:( I would be so pissed if thats what it was. Because I have been reading on the internet and from what I've read feds always travel in packs of 2 people or more and they always wear suits if they want to talk to you. But like you said, they have no reason to be wasting their time over 50 g's of 4-MEC  :D It does make sense that they would leave some kind of note saying CALL ME or something along those lines. They don't or at least 'shouldn't' have the time to be coming over to my house hoping that I'm going to be awake or home.
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: foxymeow on June 29, 2012, 02:59 pm
Honestly, it could be just two assholes trying to sell me some shit  >:( I would be so pissed if thats what it was. Because I have been reading on the internet and from what I've read feds always travel in packs of 2 people or more and they always wear suits if they want to talk to you. But like you said, they have no reason to be wasting their time over 50 g's of 4-MEC  :D It does make sense that they would leave some kind of note saying CALL ME or something along those lines. They don't or at least 'shouldn't' have the time to be coming over to my house hoping that I'm going to be awake or home.

You are just being paranoid. Unless you live in a state like Florida where it is banned you have nothing to worry about unless you literally have a massive bag of Capped up or pressed 4-MEC. The FBI wouldn't waste their time on that, ever.
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: 96z28dude on June 29, 2012, 03:03 pm
That's what I was thinking. I literally have nothing illegal in my house whatsoever at the moment that has to do with any type of drugs or RC's  8) And if I was doing something that I didn't mention I don't think the police or feds or who the fuck ever would come to my house and ask me if I'm doing it haha they would definitely try and catch me in the act and then bust me and try to fuck me. But I don't have anything to hide, I just think it's weird.
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: Skippy_Jif on June 29, 2012, 04:32 pm
Woot was a complete dumbass. That is why he got caught. They hit him with analogues because he talked about consumption on skype with a confidential informant and imported a good amount of rcs explicably for retail on the goddamn board he was running! That was the dumbest goddamn move of all.

If woot wasn't so cracked out on the rcs he bought with all the money he rakedin from vendors then he may have been fine. He had a Scarface vision with a kindergarten mentality. I miss EK, but good ridance of woot. He rolled as soon as he was booked which is why the ownership was transfered to RESU.

If he didn't get caught then he would have eventually gotten aught through his carelesz security measures. Fucking druggie kids trying to play this head hauncho game is the reason why shit hit the fan so badly when it did.

Just remember, if you're ordering any drug(even legal) you can be prosecuted if they want you bad enough. Federal agencies don't fuck around! And if they pursue you they WILL get you.
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: Joy on June 29, 2012, 05:35 pm
ow shit,i just know that EK been shut down. :'(
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: sl1pknot on June 29, 2012, 07:56 pm
Maybe the two guys in suits knocking on your door were Mormons trying to get you to cash in on the Book of Mormon and not the FBI.

-_-
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: Skippy_Jif on June 29, 2012, 08:41 pm
Maybe the two guys in suits knocking on your door were Mormons trying to get you to cash in on the Book of Mormon and not the FBI.

-_-
And they only accept bitcoins
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: Limetless on June 29, 2012, 08:54 pm
really foxy? w00t got pwnt by the fbi for conspiracy to import 4-mec, he never even had the drugs, he never even paid jsabgl for them for that matter

Haha weird, we was just talking about that the other day lol.
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: wretched on June 30, 2012, 04:42 am
I haven't reallt taken time to read this thread, but there are two sentences to memorize before the conversation.

1. Am I under Arrest?
2. I would like to have my lawyer present for this conversation.


and on a side note: better call Saul!
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: foxymeow on June 30, 2012, 06:40 am
I haven't reallt taken time to read this thread, but there are two sentences to memorize before the conversation.

1. Am I under Arrest?
2. I would like to have my lawyer present for this conversation.


and on a side note: better call Saul!

Help me Howard is on the case!
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: DwarfSeeker on June 30, 2012, 07:02 am
I haven't reallt taken time to read this thread, but there are two sentences to memorize before the conversation.

1. Am I under Arrest?
2. I would like to have my lawyer present for this conversation.


and on a side note: better call Saul!

i thought you were supposed to just scream lawyer over and over... go for an insanity plea.

LE: Sir are you Wilfred Wretched?
You: LAWYER!!!
LE: Excuse me sir?
You: LAWYER!
LE: Sir, if you dont cooperate
You: LAWYER
Title: Re: FBI visit about Research Chemicals?
Post by: Skippy_Jif on June 30, 2012, 05:21 pm
Open the the door and scream "This is Sparta!!!" Then kick them off your porch.