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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: morphineman on December 24, 2012, 12:54 am
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I wrote to theis vendor telling him he was advertising his ms contin as immediate release when it was not ir. ms contin by name tells you its long acting. ms=morphine sulfate and contin=long acting. i know the difference because i sell real immediate release morphine sulfate tablets. this vendor is blatently lying to customers who think they are getting ir morphine. he stated to me i said its crushable. what the hell is that, crushable does not make it ir. its not just the outer layer, its in the formulation. yes the outer layer is longer acting but just crushing it does not change is structure. this is his answer to my accusation that he is telling his customers a lye. no intentional misleading? i say bull
here are his adds inside both he states msir
Opioids Morphine MSIR 15mg - Crushable - X 5 ฿5.59 United States of America United States of America add to cart
Opioids Morphine MS Contin 60mg - Crushable - X 5 ฿8.80 United States of America United States of America add to cart
I'm well aware of the difference between IR and ER and I explain to anyone who makes a purchase that the pill is coated for continuous (contin) release. I state "immediate release" based on the fact that they can be crushed, thus defeating the coating and then they become "immediate release". So there is no intentional misleading. I wonder why my listings' wordings concern you so much that you feel you need to write and tell me you think I should change the words in my listings. I have been a vendor here for over 6 months and I have a perfect 100% satisfaction score with my customers. I think you should tend to your own listings and figure out your own shortcomings as to why you've been a vendor for just a month and a score of just 96 to show for it. In other words, mind your own fucking business.
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Re: the claim by morphineman, who is a vendor on SR using the name "canadiandrugs", I will say that the listing he is referring to is my MS Contin (Morphine Sulphate Contin) which has a coating on it that when swallowed, allows the pill to dissolve slowly in a "timed release" fashion. These "Contin" (Continous Release) pills can be chewed or crushed which defeats the coating's purpose and releases medication all at once. This is why the old school OxyCONTIN is so popular. It has the same "continuous release coating" on it which is designed for them to dissolve slowly providing "CONTINuous release". Morphine Continuous Release "MS CONTIN" works exactly the same way.
I have both, Morphine IR (Immediate Release) which has no coating and the Morphine Contin, the continuous release formula which has the coating. In my Morphine Contin listing I mentioned that it is crushable, thus defeating the coating which creates an "immediate release" (IR). Several weeks ago I got the following message from morphineman who is a new vendor using the name "canadiandrugs". He has listings for Morphine and apparently considers himself an expert on the drug . Here is the very intelligently written PM I received from him out of the blue:
"your adds for your ms contin morphine, is wrong. ms contin is not ir immediate release as you stated. it is the long acting version of morphine sulfate. hense mscontin, the ms morphine sulphate, contin means long acting. i think you should change all your add as they are not misleading its wrong. if you would like to converse on the differences between the 2 drugs pm me. "
To which, I replied:
"I'm well aware of the difference between IR and ER and I explain to anyone who makes a purchase that the pill is coated for continuous (contin) release. I state "immediate release" based on the fact that they can be crushed, thus defeating the coating and then they become "immediate release". So there is no intentional misleading. I wonder why my listings' wordings concern you so much that you feel you need to write and tell me you think I should change the words in my listings. I have been a vendor here for over 6 months and I have a perfect 100% satisfaction score with my customers. I think you should tend to your own listings and figure out your own shortcomings as to why you've been a vendor for just a month and a score of just 96 to show for it. In other words, mind your own fucking business."
Then he replied to me with another well written reply:
"no your lying. its not ir . i don't care if you crush that crap its not ir, no matter what you do to it its LONG ACTING. so stop lying to your customers. now you are claiming you know the difference so their is no reason to say what you are saying. your 20 tabs sales don't concern me your now admitted lying to your customers. do and your 100% means nothing especially when your 10 customers find out you lyed to them and they bought this contin crap. crushable what the fuck kind of selling tactic is that. this is why you have 100% bullshitter from your own words ."
Ahem..... :o
I am a cancer patient and I have considerable knowledge about the Morphine I am prescribed and I understand their CONTIN and IR formulations. "Canadiandrugs" is selling Morphine, a drug he obviously doesn't know much about. I have been prescribed both forms of Morphine by my oncology doctors for over 3 years now. Part of my treatment over the past 3 years has been mandated, required learning about the drugs I am taking. So to get such a PM out of the blue from this twerp "canadiandrugs" who states on his vendors page that he buys and sells Morphine in large quantities and is seeking "distributors", telling me he thinks I need to change my listing descriptions to suit him, actually pissed me off.
Upon researching "morphineman" on the forums, I found that it actually proved to be rather comical seeing him making such a wide spread fool of himself throughout the forums with his many rantings, one in particular of how he feels another vendor should have to change his name because it contains the word "Canada" or "Canadian". Apparently "canadiandrugs" feels he has a monopoly on any reference to Canada contained in a username.
But seriously, I lay low here and I mind my own business. I don't ever trash anyone on these forums, in fact I rarely post at all, as my post count indicates, but with "canadiandrugs" aka "morphineman" I'll make an exception. The fellow seems to be a self-proven fool. Please be careful of this loose cannon!
As far as myself and my listings. I'm a very small volume vendor selling only the drugs that are prescribed to me which I don't finish at the end of any given month. I do this for the sole purpose of raising money to help pay for my treatment as I have no health insurance. I have been taking both formulations of Morphine as well as the other drugs I have listed for 3 years now and I've been schooled on them and their effects and affects by my doctors. I have been a vendor here long enough to develop a following of repeat customers and I have a 100% feedback rating, which should speak for itself.
So to my buddy Canadiandrugs aka Morphineman, I say to you sir, concentrate on your own listings and your own products and your own customers, and perhaps concentrate more-so on your own shortcomings and your feeling the need to trash others with your incessant rantings. ;)
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I have had several dealings with pharmaid and I must say that I have never felt mislead or lied to. Upon researching this vendor's wares I was confirmed in my knowledge that what pharmaid says they are selling is actually what they are selling. I have nothing but good things to say about him and his products and I for one don't believe for one second that he has ever lied about any of his listings and will continue to use his valuable services. :)