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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: anex45 on September 30, 2012, 06:12 am

Title: Opiate users, have you tried Torbutrol/Butorphanol/Stadol?
Post by: anex45 on September 30, 2012, 06:12 am
So I found a bottle of a bunch of 5mg Torbutrol pills that are apparently Butorphanol and are also in Stadol...I was very surprised to find out it's supposedly strong and rare.

Here's the thing...I know it's an antagonist so I can't take it right after doing some dope but I can't find to many personal experiences on how the high is when researching it through Google.

Has any opiate users here tried it? I was thinking about waiting at least 16-20 hours after my last dose of heroin before I tried snorting 2.5mg to 5mg of it...would like to IV it but I'm not going to attempt that since I don't know much about it or how the effects are.

"Butorphanol (Stadol) (INN) is a morphinan-type synthetic opioid analgesic developed by Bristol-Myers"
Title: Re: Opiate users, have you tried Torbutrol/Butorphanol/Stadol?
Post by: Novartis on September 30, 2012, 06:40 am
It looks like it's for mod-severe pain: 0.5-2mg IV q3-4 prn (start 1mg IV or 2mg IM: Max 4 mg/dose OR anesthesia adjunct: 2mg IV then 0.5-1mg IV prn.
Almost all opiates are categorized as "Avoid/Use Alternative" which is one step below "Absolutely Contraindicated" ...the combo with opiates may precipitate withdrawal in opioid-dependent persons, increase risk of CNS depression, psychomotor impairment (antagonistic effects, additive effects)... like you said, it's an "opioid agonist-antagonist).

The butorphanol nasal dose is only 1mg q3-4h...

With the opioid antagonist narcan I've noticed the Intra-nasal (atomizer) spray reverses opiate effects much more gently than IM/IV...which usually throws patient's straight into withdrawl (nausea/vomiting, etc). I'm always a fan of nasal for patients, I'm not sure about the drug you're talking about though...... this is why I sell narcan with the nasal adapter :) shameless plug
Title: Re: Opiate users, have you tried Torbutrol/Butorphanol/Stadol?
Post by: anex45 on September 30, 2012, 06:53 am
It looks like it's for mod-severe pain: 0.5-2mg IV q3-4 prn (start 1mg IV or 2mg IM: Max 4 mg/dose OR anesthesia adjunct: 2mg IV then 0.5-1mg IV prn.
Almost all opiates are categorized as "Avoid/Use Alternative" which is one step below "Absolutely Contraindicated" ...the combo with opiates may precipitate withdrawal in opioid-dependent persons, increase risk of CNS depression, psychomotor impairment (antagonistic effects, additive effects)... like you said, it's an "opioid agonist-antagonist).

The butorphanol nasal dose is only 1mg q3-4h...

With the opioid antagonist narcan I've noticed the Intra-nasal (atomizer) spray reverses opiate effects much more gently than IM/IV...which usually throws patient's straight into withdrawl (nausea/vomiting, etc). I'm always a fan of nasal for patients, I'm not sure about the drug you're talking about though...... this is why I sell narcan with the nasal adapter :) shameless plug

Thank you! I appreciate the information, I'm going to be in withdrawal soon anyways and that's why I figured I would try snorting some of these to see if it would get me by until I get my next order. I'm just going to snort a very small amount instead of IVing and see what it does...I've had precipitated withdrawals before and those are NO FUN!