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Title: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: i push the kush on August 10, 2012, 10:34 am
abzu currently has the best prices for MDMA on the SR! From what I have been reading his product is white crystals, and he ships very quickly and stealthy! I'm interested to hear from anyone who has ordered from this vendor. Please share your experience and I would love it if someone could upload a pic of this guys gear.

Here is his profile - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/c7ca256e9e
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jhannm on August 12, 2012, 01:44 pm
I too would like to hear some reviews and see some pics, his MDMA is almost half the prices of other vendors we'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on August 14, 2012, 04:02 am
bumping for justice/interest/strong desire to spend a lot of money on him.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: ciaobingo on August 14, 2012, 05:12 am
^Me too, seems to be the cheapest, even better than AfterHour. I only had one order from SKYY but it made it through and it was damn good.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: kzwb on August 14, 2012, 05:14 am
Very interested. No Fe required for Aud as well and tracking.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: justan00b on August 14, 2012, 05:19 am
I ordered a gram from Abzu back when he first came on.
It came vacuum sealed, pretty standard.
When I purchased from him, it was a tan/orange color. Nice shards. Pretty spot on gear.

Sorry that I can't shed more light on to how the new product is... I'm also interested in anything anyone has to say.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Mrambulancedriver on August 14, 2012, 08:01 pm
I grew some balls and ordered a decent amount of MDMA off abzu. Took about 24hours to mark 'in transit'


I'll report more if/when it comes. Sort of strange how there's barely any reviews of abzu.

If all works out I'll try to get this review thread going
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: i push the kush on August 14, 2012, 08:05 pm
I grew some balls and ordered a decent amount of MDMA off abzu. Took about 24hours to mark 'in transit'


I'll report more if/when it comes. Sort of strange how there's barely any reviews of abzu.

If all works out I'll try to get this review thread going

Awesome  :D cant wait to hear your experience. I just placed a 100 gram order with AfterHour yesterday.... kinda wish I would've went with abzu  ???
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Mrambulancedriver on August 15, 2012, 12:23 am
Let me know how that order with A.H. goes if ye could, I've been thinking about him, as i dig packages coming from that part of EU more than the NL.

I'll definitely report how my experience with abzu goes
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: i push the kush on August 15, 2012, 12:29 am
Let me know how that order with A.H. goes if ye could, I've been thinking about him, as i dig packages coming from that part of EU more than the NL.

I'll definitely report how my experience with abzu goes

I'll definitely let you know how that turns out
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: kzwb on August 22, 2012, 10:01 am
Made an order with this guy to Aus.
My only other from NL was with cloud Surfers and his goods came through.

But that was a tiny order compared to this one. Hoping for the best.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Ctech13 on August 26, 2012, 09:06 pm
It really is a bit bothersome that there isn't more on this guy in the forums. The reviews on his seller page look promising, just seems strange that there isn't more on him. Was going to place a fairly large order with him due to the fact that his prices are amazing. I decided to go with about 1/4 of what I was originally going to order after not being able to find much on him in the forums, and after abzu had informed he in indeed requiring that outside of EU orders do indeed require FE, even though his page states otherwise. Will come back and update how the experience went with him, order is going in today.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Mrambulancedriver on August 26, 2012, 09:23 pm
It really is a bit bothersome that there isn't more on this guy in the forums. The reviews on his seller page look promising, just seems strange that there isn't more on him. Was going to place a fairly large order with him due to the fact that his prices are amazing. I decided to go with about 1/4 of what I was originally going to order after not being able to find much on him in the forums, and after abzu had informed he in indeed requiring that outside of EU orders do indeed require FE, even though his page states otherwise. Will come back and update how the experience went with him, order is going in today.

That was probably a wise move ordering less. I'm on day 12 since he marked my order in transit. I'm outside the EU and he never even mentioned Finalizing Early to me, so that troubles me a bit that he asked it from you. If it doesn't come in, I'm going to ask for a full refund, I've been a bit sketched out by him the whole time.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: kzwb on August 26, 2012, 10:09 pm
He asks for FE with tracking number, but fe not required for normal post.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Ctech13 on August 27, 2012, 10:07 pm
He asks for FE with tracking number, but fe not required for normal post.

That is what I got from reading his page, but the wording was a little confusing to me. So I shot him a few messages, inquiring on his policies. He was pretty timely and professional in messaging, however he told me that he has a large amount of orders shipping to outside EU that are being delayed 1-3 weeks(Reason not given). Because of this he is requiring that all NEW outside EU orders must be FE. Again, even though it says nothing about this on his page. This kind of adds to my uneasiness about him, but, giving him the benefit of the doubt and again due to his prices, I decided to give him a try and ordered a sample. Really hoping things go over well, even if his product isn't A+++ shit, the pricing is simply unmatched. He also did tell me that these are temporary conditions, and if I wanted to wait until things returned to normal to order that he would completely understand. And just to clarify I was not ordering with a tracking number. Seems like an ok guy, personally though I'm going to tread lightly with him until I get more of a personal confirmation that he can be trusted.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on September 08, 2012, 04:16 pm
I ordered 10g of his MDMA about four weeks ago. He gave me the option of FE & a tracking number or escrow & no tracking. I chose escrow & no tracking for SR protection. Marked as in transit on 8/16.

I went on vacation, checking with my wife about packages, and 24 hours before I ended up autofinalizing she told me it had come in. I finalized & left a review stating it had come in & that I'd update once I'd checked it out (ever notice that people don't tend to actually update? I update & you should, too!).

When I got home, turns out my wife was a ditz and it was my new cell phone rather than a Netherlands package. Like an idiot, I'd finalized on something that hadn't arrived & I have no tracking number.

I emailed abzu, asking if this was a normal wait time (currently 23 days!) and explaining the situation- no customs letter, no MDMA, and also that I finalized like an idiot (although I wasn't idiot enough to bother asking for a refund), and he said, "delivery average of past month orders to US is more like 15 working days. your order has left on 16/08 , letter may still appear until maximal date on 14/09," which is tomorrow, which is a Sunday- meaning that there's no mail tomorrow, meaning no drugs for me. I changed my review from a 5 to a 3, and if there's nothing on Monday it's turning into a 1.

I'm a vendor, myself, and I know for a fact how infrequently things are nabbed in the mail, especially small amounts like 10gs (abzu said in an email to me that "we regularly ship successfully quantities up to 50g to USA, however delivery score is lower than any other international destination being around 85 to 95%" which is an *insane* spillage rate). Here's the options as far as I can tell. Either:

a) the packaging is so bad that it can't get through customs,
b) customs nabbed it but decided to not write a love letter, or
c) it was never mailed to me.

Since I don't see customs not following through, my guess is either a) or c), and that I took one for the team.

Moral of the story: never FE, probably don't order from abzu.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: kzwb on September 09, 2012, 02:47 am
Haven't received my package, has been about 3 weeks. AuS
My order is still in escrow, he said to wait until the 14th to see if it would show up.

See how it goes, hoping there was a delay in the order.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: soo25 on September 09, 2012, 12:21 pm
 >:(ME TOO I ORDERED ON THE 16 TRANSIT ON THE 17.AND STILL NOTHING TOLD ME THE SAME THING
MAX DATE 9/14.WTF HOPE WE DIDN'T GET SCAMMED...
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on September 09, 2012, 03:43 pm
Where are you located? This sucks.

I just ordered from CloudSurfer. Fingers crossed that I'll end up with twice as much and that abzu comes through, but it's looking like homeboy is going to need to start talking to us on the forums and letting us know what's up. abzu? You around?

Your customers are getting ancy.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: chandler608 on September 09, 2012, 09:24 pm
I ordered 10g of his MDMA about four weeks ago. He gave me the option of FE & a tracking number or escrow & no tracking. I chose escrow & no tracking for SR protection. Marked as in transit on 8/16.

I went on vacation, checking with my wife about packages, and 24 hours before I ended up autofinalizing she told me it had come in. I finalized & left a review stating it had come in & that I'd update once I'd checked it out (ever notice that people don't tend to actually update? I update & you should, too!).

When I got home, turns out my wife was a ditz and it was my new cell phone rather than a Netherlands package. Like an idiot, I'd finalized on something that hadn't arrived & I have no tracking number.

I emailed abzu, asking if this was a normal wait time (currently 23 days!) and explaining the situation- no customs letter, no MDMA, and also that I finalized like an idiot (although I wasn't idiot enough to bother asking for a refund), and he said, "delivery average of past month orders to US is more like 15 working days. your order has left on 16/08 , letter may still appear until maximal date on 14/09," which is tomorrow, which is a Sunday- meaning that there's no mail tomorrow, meaning no drugs for me. I changed my review from a 5 to a 3, and if there's nothing on Monday it's turning into a 1.

I'm a vendor, myself, and I know for a fact how infrequently things are nabbed in the mail, especially small amounts like 10gs (abzu said in an email to me that "we regularly ship successfully quantities up to 50g to USA, however delivery score is lower than any other international destination being around 85 to 95%" which is an *insane* spillage rate). Here's the options as far as I can tell. Either:

a) the packaging is so bad that it can't get through customs,
b) customs nabbed it but decided to not write a love letter, or
c) it was never mailed to me.

Since I don't see customs not following through, my guess is either a) or c), and that I took one for the team.

Moral of the story: never FE, probably don't order from abzu.

yup!! exact same thing with me except 5 g's. he told me it willl arive on the 24th however there are feedback's saying received in 7 days , but its been 3 weeks for me. So i hope we havnt been scammed and id like to hear from abzu ..
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on September 09, 2012, 10:12 pm
Feeling like we were all suckers at this point. Everyone make sure to leave him 1's- which is what he's getting from me if by Monday there's no package and still nothing from him here on the forums.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: soo25 on September 09, 2012, 10:30 pm
we are in OC CA.why dont he come on here and talk to all of us???
?there is like 20 of us and we ARE ALL STILL WAITING..
SO IF U ARE PLANING TO ORDER DONT..BE A SUCKER LIKE US
THIS IS BS,EVERY ONE LIVE HIM A 1.  >:(
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: kaczty on September 09, 2012, 11:00 pm
don't be so impatient - shipping from the Netherlands is always a crapshoot. I've had it take 9 days, I've had it take 25+. I'm on my 17th business day with SuperTrips, also from the Netherlands.

What I would like is some test results and pictures of the product. The prices are the best I've seen, so if his stuff is on par with ST, pfand, and SKYY then I'm definitely interested.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on September 10, 2012, 03:51 am
IDK. I've had plenty of successful buys from ST. Never had to extend anything.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: soo25 on September 10, 2012, 04:59 am
K WE WILL BREATH IT OUT..AND.GIVE HIM A FEW TO GET BK TO ALL OF US HOPE WE ALL GET ARE TREATS SOON
AND YESSSS WE NEED PICS
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Mrambulancedriver on September 10, 2012, 03:01 pm
This worries me as well.. I went out of town this weekend hoping either my package would come, or someone else's package from abzu came.. But seems like everyone is having the same issues. I ordered 25g in the middle of August, it's been damn near a full month. I've had orders from NL take long, but never this long. If it doesn't come in I'm pulling for a full refund.


But i have a feeling this dude is pulling scams.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on September 10, 2012, 03:48 pm
I hate that the first time I've ever accidentally FE'd it was on a scammer.

And if the mailbox is empty today he gets a 1. I'll be happy to change it if he either pops up on the forums or if I get my molly or bitcoin back.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on September 10, 2012, 08:43 pm
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand a 1 it is for abzu. I hope everyone getting the shit end does the same, and holds him accountable slash makes sure people start buying from trusted vendors.

Again, upon receipt of either my drugs or money- or of a response from abzu, I'll change my tune.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Mrambulancedriver on September 11, 2012, 11:39 am
...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand a 1 it is for abzu. I hope everyone getting the shit end does the same, and holds him accountable slash makes sure people start buying from trusted vendors.

Again, upon receipt of either my drugs or money- or of a response from abzu, I'll change my tune.


I've been in resolution with him for about a week. I extended it a little, then asked for a refund, then he asked to extend it for awhile, I waited, now I'm asking for a refund. Now he's asking me to wait until the end of the week. I told him I'd accept it, but by then it will have been a full month, which the only time I've had a package take that long was a pair of LED lights i ordered from like New Zealand a year ago.

I have a feeling after this week abzu is going to get a flood of 1/5's
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: kzwb on September 11, 2012, 01:57 pm
Just extended my escrow by another 10 days, ahs been about 3 weeks now no show to AUS...

Not happy will be askign for 100% refund if it doesnt come up for me or anyone else.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Ctech13 on September 11, 2012, 09:09 pm
Hmmmm, still haven't received my sample either  :-\
I have 6 days left till auto-finalize, going to give him another 2 and then enter into resolve.
If I haven't received by this weekend, after reading all of the other post in here, I will more than likely be requesting a 100% refund as well.
Would be at least a little comforting to hear from here in the forums, but I honestly don't see it happening.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on September 12, 2012, 01:20 am
What's he been saying in messages? Apparently he wants me to wait until the 14th.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Cheers! on September 12, 2012, 02:40 am
I'm still waiting on an order that was shipped middle of Aug... I extended but after reading whats going on with other orders I am not too certain this vendor is legit.

Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: kzwb on September 12, 2012, 03:48 am
What's he been saying in messages? Apparently he wants me to wait until the 14th.

He wants me to wait until the 14th as well, tried to get the deadline extended again but he is not responding.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Ctech13 on September 12, 2012, 04:50 am
Keep hope guys! I found my product waiting for me when I got home today  ;D
Seems like some pretty decent shit too. Took about 13 days to E US.
Again I did only get the 5g sample, but it did come through.
Had some pretty hilarious, but clever packaging as well.

Good luck guys  :)
Ctech
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: MaxB on September 12, 2012, 07:55 am
I got a 1g order last week, took two weeks but all was well

hope he hasnt turned scamm
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Mrambulancedriver on September 12, 2012, 11:25 am
It seems like on orders 1g-5g are coming in fine, within two weeks. Im on day 30 now, since my package was marked in transit, it was a bulk order..

It seems all 10g+ orders didn't really get sent out..
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: soo25 on September 12, 2012, 11:40 am
WHY ARE HIS ADDS ALL DOWN????Y IS HE HIDING???
AND HAS NOT  COME ON HERE TO TELL US ALL SOME THING
RUDE!!!DONT ORDER FROM HIM ANY ONE TILL HE DOSE RIGHT WITH ALL OF US
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: kzwb on September 12, 2012, 03:06 pm
Im willing to wait on him as long as he sent it, im hoping he just had some kind of stock issue and posted everyones stuff a week late ;/
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on September 12, 2012, 04:09 pm
I messaged him on SR yesterday, saying the following:

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Hey, man.

So Friday the 14th is coming up. I wanted to let you know that if my 10gs come in before then, I'll change my 1 back to a 5, with apologies, and edit my forum postings and reassure the other people on the forums.

Failing that, if you refund my money to me I'll do the same. I know that since I accidentally finalized there's nothing the SR admins can do, however, if you don't refund/reship/reassure the angry people on the forums, you'll probably not get much more Silk Road business. I'm genuinely concerned at this point that either the packaging was easy for customs to nab or that it wasn't sent when you said it was. I'm a vendor, myself, under a different account, so I know how infrequently things get taken by customs (so far, never).

Please take care of this, and your customers.

Thanks so much,

jonesycat

I'll update if he replies. I think it's interesting that he's trying to blame all the missing 10g ships on the postal service, somehow, and has changed his seller's page to state the following:

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- Maximal delivery date : shipping date + Bank holidays + 1 month on its end week, no ending before this date will be reached.

Which is a pretty incredible length of time, if I'm reading it correctly: say 30 days in a month + 10 days of weekends + lets throw in one bank holiday means he thinks it can take FOURTY-ONE days to get a small package from the Netherlands to the USA. ST has never taken more than 14 days, and shipments I've gotten from Germany, Spain, and Lithuania have all been in that same timeframe. Are abzu's postal workers walking it from his place to mine?

True story: I just checked google maps, and apparently it would take less than 41 days to walk from New York City to San Francisco. The guy taking that walk would be faster than abzu's postal service by two whole days.

So what's up, abzu? Where you at?

Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: chandler608 on September 12, 2012, 07:19 pm
I'm waiting til the 14th as he said and if it don't come i will be asking for 100% refund and i hope y'all do the same.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: soo25 on September 12, 2012, 09:34 pm
k sooo WE JUST GOT A FULL REFUND.WE STAYED IN ESCROW.FOR 30DAY
 AND NOTHING NO LOVE LETTER FROM CUSTOMS
OR MDMA FROM ABZU BUT FULL REFUND.
THANK U SR GOOD LUCK TO THE REST
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on September 17, 2012, 05:07 pm
Anyone get their Molly? This is the most recent communique I've gotten from abzu:

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All International orders of past month are late delivered, we now ask a complete cycle of 5 weeks reporting of a week the dead line to 23/09.
You'll hopefully receive it otherwise your order would of course be treated according to conditions like under escrow.

Being worry by delays or so is one thing but impatience and disengagement of conditions implicitly accepted when placing an order with us are currently main reasons of unfair behaviors. Fortunately, satisfied and quiet customers is widely the majority.

Thank you for the neutrality of your words despite your double worries.

best regards
abzu

Whatever "a complete cycle" means. I'm really hoping that he just marked a bunch of orders as "in transit" long before he mailed them. Because 30+ days is longer than I've ever heard of anything taking to get anywhere in the world.

I'm also hoping that people aren't afraid to start putting a bunch of 1's in his reviews.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on September 17, 2012, 05:12 pm
Also, from his vendor page:

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This decision was necessary because of a high demand coupled to potential very long delivery delays, but also due to some recent ungrateful negative feedback and unfair behaviors, up to leaving scam rumor about us, exclusively from persons from these destinations.

Dude, I ALREADY PAID YOU. I accidentally FE'd, meaning YOU HAVE MY MONEY AND I DON'T HAVE MY MDMA. What, precisely, am I supposed to be grateful for? You haven't even come on the forums to talk to us.

Here's the deal: until I either get my drugs or my money back I am going to be a total pain in your ass.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: soo25 on September 20, 2012, 01:03 pm
THIS GUYS IS A SCAMMER HE IS TRYING TO GET MY FRIEND TO CHANGE HER FEEDBACK MAKING THREATS.
IF WE DONT CHANGE THEM. BLABLABLA.THIS GUY WELL WASTE AND TAKE UR $$$ STAY AWY FROM HIM.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Mrambulancedriver on September 20, 2012, 06:58 pm
Finally my ordeal with abzu is over. Got half my btc back, which i think fucking sucks, but i gave honest feedback, which is a 1/5, and said how i never received my package.

Fuck abzu, he's a scammer
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: abzu on September 21, 2012, 02:25 am
Hi there,
Content about abzu,  posted on this thread since a while is obviously mostly some "material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, threatening". 
let's start with some facts :
-  10  objective and/or positive members or previous buyer : Thank you all for that !
-  3 users/buyers keeping moderation on forum and on SR,
-  4 users/buyers at the origin of  the grow of  calumny who did  major  transgressions qualified above
->2  bth on forum and on SR , 1 who did here and sadly ready to do same on SR,  1 who did here but currently in contact on SR but hopes for a better ending are not excluded.
Total  of 7 users to  suspect or affirm  abzu is a scammer who is abusively asking to extend  delivery delays  when he just don't ship orders.
7 facing to a grid pagination in 13 block of a wide majority of postive ones : http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/c7ca256e9e

.
Whether somebody who posted or just read  this thread and would ask a question, please prefer SR messaging than  forum.

Back here soon to give answer/precision about some points.
abzu 


Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on September 21, 2012, 03:21 am
FYI that didn't make a whole lot of sense. I don't think the word "columny" has been used outside of Shakespearean English other than in obscure legal documents.

That said, the forums are where Silk Road talks to itself. wanting people to only discuss vendors when everything is going well is a nice dream for the vendor, but when you have a bunch of people who all ordered the same thing (in this case 10gs of MDMA) we need to talk to each other and make sure it's a legitimate situation. For instance, when a vendor has 30 people saying how fast, pure, or stealthy someone is and one person has a complaint, the community can determine that that one guy is an exception. In THIS case, where a lot of people are going through the same thing, it is clear that the problem rests with the vendor.

I'd say you should have come on here a long time ago.

That said, I'm one of the people who is in contact with you trying to get either a full refund or a reship (with DCN) of my MDMA. I've even tried to sweeted the possibility of a reship by asking if I could get a g of either ketamine or blow added on (which I would pay for). Currently abzu has stated that if by tomorrow afternoon I don't receive my MDMA he will refund me 70%. Personally, I feel like after waiting literally longer than a month for my drugs, with no sign of either a customs letter or the drugs themselves, that I should get either all my money back or my drugs and an apology.

I'm a vendor under a different account, my stats are perfect, I shop on SR constantly (and a lot of times I do so wasted and accidentally buy research chemicals that scare the shit out of me, but hey, I collect drugs), and the vendors who do right by me get frequent return patronage (I just dropped like $1200 on the jennifers' GBL)- and grateful, detailed reviews. This is the first time that I've been put through anything like this since I became a member of Silk Road, and it's a pretty lame experience- and one that I would NEVER put my clientele through. I told abzu that this is a perfect opportunity to shine- take a lot of unhappy customers & give us EXACTLY what we want, which is what we ordered, to apologize and fix things, and that in doing so he'd have customers for life. That is how customer service works.

abzu offered amazing sounding drugs at unbelievable prices. I'd like to see pictures of these drugs, and I'd really like to hear some people on the forums sound off about their experiences. But more than that? I'd like my Molly, or I'd like my money.

abzu, I'm asking you, in a very friendly way, to not start a fight on the forums. If you want to be a good business owner, customer service is one of the most important things you can offer. Offer it. If people are cussing you out, smile, nod, and apologize. And don't try to make it a private conversation. that makes you look like you have something to hide. Be calm, talk to us all, give us what we paid for (or our money back), and build our trust again. Don't try to put the blame on anyone else. You have our drugs & our money. We want either, and we'll be happy (& even loyal) customers.

Best,

Jonesycat
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: soo25 on September 21, 2012, 03:31 am
selective SCAMMR!
end of story be careful with him
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Mrambulancedriver on September 21, 2012, 02:05 pm
selective SCAMMR!
end of story be careful with him

Exactly!! He can say all he wants, but there's multiple people here who have waited over his '5 week max delay' for amounts 10g+

I should've pushed for a bigger refund, but I was so ready to be done with this shit, my BTC's been tied up for so long, I just took the 50%, I'll hustle my ass off this next month and get back on my feet.


Fuck abzu, dude's a scammer. Can't blame it on customs either, with the amount i ordered, if customs had found that shit they'd be knocking on my door.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on September 21, 2012, 11:22 pm
So I got a 100% refund.

The best I can figure out from abzu's interesting & almost undecipherable translations are that he (or they or whatever) isn't the one ACTUALLY doing the sending. For instance, when I asked for a reship w/ DCN rather than a refund, he said:

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Rule of no ship is actually more in relation with the fail on first time to an address, in these case buyers are disappointed so usually even don't ask . I can't give you an immediate reply right now myself, sender will decide.

meaning that he was willing to consider it, and later

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reship of mdma isn't accepted by sender neither to ship to this address anymore

which sounds like he had to ask someone & they said no.

I guess.

Either way I'm really glad to have gotten my money back after 5 weeks of waiting, whining, and being a pain in the ass. In the last two weeks I've watched his vendor ratings drop like 8 points. Hopefully he'll be able to get it back up as he fixes things with the other pissed off people on the forums.

And hey! Maybe I'm an asshole & I'll magically get my 10gs of MDMA in the mail after all! I seriously doubt it, but if I do I'll definitely let everyone know.

MORALS OF THIS STORY:
*Always get a DCN (seriously it costs NOTHING extra & it makes this kind of shit immaterial)
*Silk Road kicks ass (I can't imagine winning this fight against IRL drug dealers, or even a fucking ebay vendor)
*Communicate with your customers, and maintain a presence on the forums (that shouldn't have been your very first post, abzu!)

And hey, abzu? If you ever want to build forum & community trust, let me know- you'll have to sell me drugs, but if it's legit, I'm happy to be completely fair.


Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Ctech13 on September 22, 2012, 02:28 am
Sucks that you guys didn't receive and ended up going through so much hassle  :-\
I really did have an enjoyable experience other than the paranoia with abzu. Though I am nervous to order more than the 10gs from him.

One thing I would like to note is that I'm not even sure that abzu was either entirely aware, or at least not aware of how important the other half of the Silk Road is, the forums.
I have been following this thread even after receiving my product in interest to see if you all ever ended up getting your goods. Sadly that doesn't appear that is the case.
However, I did message abzu informing him of the importance of the forums, and as a satisfied customer that I would like to see him resolve other problems and continue business.
I even shot him a direct link to this thread. In less than 24 hours after the message was sent, I was happy to see he had at least made the effort to come here and post, as confusing as the post was at least he made an attempt.

Anyways, I hope things work out for you guys.

Cheers,
Ctech
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: dementyev6969 on September 24, 2012, 04:40 am
Update: Arrived - 20 days to US, 200mg over, lol at the packaging.  No signs of customs interest or tampering, just takes a long time to here I guess, I don't think that's unreasonable given where its coming from.  I want to go for a larger order from abzu but the chatter on the forum is making me think twice.  Has anyone had any luck with 50g from him?

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Following this thread w/anxiety.  I have a 10g MDMA order from him that is now 19 days old, 17 days since marked shipped I believe.  I put in to extend the escrow period by 10 days since people are reporting around to 3wk delivery times to the my location.  After that if still nothing I'll see what abzu says about a refund.  Damn this seller does not look promising but like a chump I couldn't resist the lowest price on MDMA on SR.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: kzwb on September 24, 2012, 01:25 pm
Order never arrived to aus, 70% refund.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on September 25, 2012, 04:13 am
So out of curiosity, what do you guys think actually happened?

Should we all be concerned that the packaging was shit & everyone's orders got nabbed by customs? If so should we stop ordering internationally?

GOD that would suck.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Mr.Charlie on September 25, 2012, 07:18 pm
So out of curiosity, what do you guys think actually happened?

Should we all be concerned that the packaging was shit & everyone's orders got nabbed by customs? If so should we stop ordering internationally?

GOD that would suck.

The amount i ordered I doubt customs would just confiscate it without at least trying to ask me some questions...

And with the amount of people saying they haven't received anything, his packaging either would've had to of been absolutely horrible, or he didn't send them, (I believe the 2nd)

I wonder why he sent out a few 5g-10g orders, but scammed 2/3rds of the rest of his customers...
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on September 25, 2012, 08:29 pm
I really hope that's the case.

I AM noticing that int'l orders are taking a little longer than usual. I'm 15 days into a wait on both CloudSurfer, & the jennifers. Maybe ICS is just backed way the fuck up?
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Mr.Charlie on September 25, 2012, 09:19 pm
I really hope that's the case.

I AM noticing that int'l orders are taking a little longer than usual. I'm 15 days into a wait on both CloudSurfer, & the jennifers. Maybe ICS is just backed way the fuck up?

ICS being backed up is one thing, a package taking over 5 weeks to get from NL to US is unheard of. Period. abzu either had ridiculously horrible packaging or didn't send em out, either way that's on him. I should of pressed for a higher refund, but i was so tired of having no bitcoin and hearing his lame ass excuses that i could hardly understand.


BUYERS BEWARE OF ABZU!!!!!
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: soo25 on September 26, 2012, 08:58 am
ABZU IS SCAMER STAY AWAY FROM HIM.
wht he does is take orders then takes$$ out from are escrow so that he can pay rent. buy some stock.and kp scamming.
sucks for all of us he is a shit bag.and wont send u any thing



Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Ensine99 on September 26, 2012, 10:12 am
my input is scammer, I placed a test order for 1g, telling him, so that he knew full well that I wanted to place a large order afterwards (100ish)
its been 6 weeks (1 1/2 months) and no pack, love letter or anything. in the meantime I've received from both super and dutch. and dutch's prices for MDMA are (were) better then abzu's!
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: dementyev6969 on October 07, 2012, 04:57 am
The 10g order I got had great stealth packaging, so I wouldn't blame the packaging for all you who haven't gotten your larger orders.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: soo25 on October 07, 2012, 05:45 am
this guy is a selective scamer he scammed us ouf $$ and time dont let him do this YOU to stay away from him he is alier
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Mr.Charlie on October 07, 2012, 05:12 pm
How is this guy still a vendor??

2/3rds of his packages he never sent out! And most of those were the bulk orders..

Idk why anyone would order from a vendor with such a low rating, isn't he down to like 87 by now?
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: soo25 on October 08, 2012, 10:38 am
why dont SR  :o  ban him?????
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: jonesycat on October 09, 2012, 09:37 pm
Yep. I got a full refund but I don't understand why he's still around.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: GiveUsSome on October 09, 2012, 09:51 pm
Yep. I got a full refund but I don't understand why he's still around.

what a shame if this is true. ive only had good experiences with him.. havent used him lately tho
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Ensine99 on October 10, 2012, 08:58 pm
His scamming is extremely selective. He has great communication and offers seemingly fair refunds, there are also just enough reports of arriving product.
Which to me seems to create a kind of grey area. since he appears to have at least somewhat of a legitimate profile, I wish SR staff could just flag people who are of this kind of repute, since it might be better then a straight out ban.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: remoulade on January 22, 2013, 02:50 am
Hey all,

Just thought I'd bump this thread... Was looking at abzu's 10g MDMA + 10g Phet listing and the pricing seems pretty good; any updates on his MDMA and speed quality lately?
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: Pillows on February 12, 2013, 03:27 pm
I've been a steady customer of ABZU and his alter ego ENKI (on Black Market Reloaded) for 3 or 4 months and have been extremely satisfied!! His MDMA is as good as it gets and always arrives to the U.S. like clockwork 9 - 10 days after I place my order.

I started off with a small order and worked my way to bulk and can only offer praises.

I cannot talk for other people's experiences but when I read the forums I always remind myself maybe 50% of what I read is legitimate posts from "buyers"... and 50% is really "vendors" with multiple alias' talking to themselves trashing good vendors... or pumping up their own shit.

It's always good to check out reviewers other posts to see what they're all about before you believe them... Just Saying!!

The people calling scammer in this thread are all pretty damn reputable, with high post counts and good karma. what are the chances that they're ALL vendors working together to smear this guy? obviously some things need to be taken with a grain of salt but this is pretty clear cut lol. but let's hear about quality and stealth since you've had so much success with him.
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: caapispirit82 on February 13, 2013, 02:56 pm
Hello,

I had just one transaction with abzu and it was all good.. It was a domestic order. Came in 2 days.
Im sorry for those who had trouble with them.. Its not my case.


Cheers
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: UK Stealth on February 13, 2013, 03:25 pm
What utter bull shit ABZU has been a supply for me for ages on my buying account i have spent 1000$+ with him never once did anything go missing and he usually makes sure its over weight, some ov the stealthiest packaging i have seen ....

This is not the first attempt at our indian friends the same has been said about CharaBros which again is utter bull shit, never had any problems with him either.

Always idiot customers trying to scam vendors for that little bit extra.!!!!!!!!

Not on my watch..
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: That 1 Dude on April 18, 2013, 03:21 pm
Subbing
Title: Re: abzu - MDMA Review Thread
Post by: soo25 on April 23, 2013, 05:18 am
STAY AWAY FROM THIS GUY HE WILL BURN U