Silk Road forums

Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: Petrochlaor on April 25, 2012, 02:10 pm

Title: Mail theft?
Post by: Petrochlaor on April 25, 2012, 02:10 pm
Hey guys, just wanted to ask if anyone else had experienced this.

Ordered from a reputable guy, multiple times now (so I know it's not him, I'm 100% certain), but a package from him came yesterday with some peculiarities.

Now, my order was about 5g of weed, and some papers, and he has very good packaging, all stealth and vacuum packed, and furthermore it's UK to UK, so no customs or anything.

However, my package arrived with 'fragile - handle with care' tape wrapped around the top, and when I opened it, it was empty. Now that made me wonder.

I don't believe he sent me an empty package, I do believe someone may have stolen it? At the post office? I wondered if anyone else had experienced this.

If so, please speak up. This was a disturbing experience, because at first I thought LE, but that makes little sense if they'd send it on empty now. So perhaps his methods are known by someone in the postal service? Sad times, really. I was looking forward to smoking that bud. I've messaged him and all so I hope it turns out fine, but nonetheless, a sad experience.

Cheers all :)
Title: Re: Mail theft?
Post by: sniper123 on April 25, 2012, 02:23 pm
That sucks bro. Maybe if you toke up with whoever delivers your mail. They will quit stealing your weed?
Title: Re: Mail theft?
Post by: Petrochlaor on April 25, 2012, 02:27 pm
I don't think it was the postman himself, hahaha. Though I suppose it's possible.

I just wonder if somebody at the post office got an inkling, seeing as the packages all look the same :/

Ah well
Title: Re: Mail theft?
Post by: sniper123 on April 25, 2012, 02:45 pm
I have received two packages with tore bubbler and a tore envelope. Everything was still in the package though. It scarred the shit out of me tbh. I had to smoke some of the weed out the tore bubbler to calm down.
Title: Re: Mail theft?
Post by: xx138xx on April 25, 2012, 04:01 pm
The actual mail carriers get paid rather well. Any theft would most likely occur in the processing centers or with the people moving the mail from one distribution center to the next as they get paid less and have more access to a steady stream of mail to choose from. They would also have access to the tape you described on the sorting line I believe.
Title: Re: Mail theft?
Post by: Petrochlaor on April 25, 2012, 04:34 pm
The actual mail carriers get paid rather well. Any theft would most likely occur in the processing centers or with the people moving the mail from one distribution center to the next as they get paid less and have more access to a steady stream of mail to choose from. They would also have access to the tape you described on the sorting line I believe.

That's what I was thinking...hmmm. I wonder if maybe they worked out which parcels have stuff in from the seller I use? Might ask him to try a package change or something and see if it gets through, I don't want to lose any more weed to greedy thieves, hahaha. Cheers for the info though buddy.
Title: Re: Mail theft?
Post by: somahaoma on April 26, 2012, 07:21 am
I think sorting center employees are the culprits, IMO
Title: Re: Mail theft?
Post by: Petrochlaor on April 26, 2012, 06:11 pm
I think sorting center employees are the culprits, IMO

Reckon I should ask the vendor to vary his packages to me in future? Or I should use a different name at my address? (a legit one, of course)

I just hope someone has like zoned in on the packages I get, and systematically steals them from now on. Best source of weed I've seen, I don't want to lose that :/
Title: Re: Mail theft?
Post by: StinkFinger on April 26, 2012, 08:09 pm
An interesting thread. I haven't been on SR very long but nevertheless have made 4 orders. So far everything has come through but certainly in one instance the white envelope which was sent had been tampered with. It seems as though the culprit had attempted to prize away the seal at both ends of the envelope but couldn't get in without causing further damage. This has also made me suspect this is going on within the distribution centers where operators have access to mail as it comes through. They would also have to have experience in being able to identify packages which don't fall within the usual mail they handle such as business mail or birthday cards and things like that. I guess if it's not special delivery/signed for these packages are at the mercy of any light fingered postie.

Not long ago I made a purchase on eBay, actually an item of jewelry. The seller packaged the item in a brown envelope and packed the item in bubble wrap. A few days later the envelope came through containing only a paper printout of the transaction.The envelope had been peeled open at the seal and the jewelry taken. After pursuing this I eventually got a full refund as the seller should have sent the item recorded/special delivery but in an attempt to save a few quid the seller sent it 1st class and the contents went missing. This goes to show that post office workers ARE at work, sifting through items and helping themselves to stuff that isn't theirs.

A more recent purchase arrived in a jiffy bag. There was a thumb sized tear on one face of the bag but no puncturing of the enclosed bubble wrap. Maybe the mail got a little wet but my experience tells me that these thieving cunts are plenty in number.

All of these incidences have happened in the last 3 months, in thUK.

I have considered sending paracetamol through the post to myself to see if there is any further tampering of my post, then if something doesn't turn up I can march down to the local distribution center and put a complaint in. I'm obviously not going to catch the bastard but I may shake things up a little- I may even get a little insight into how the post is distributed at a local level.

I guess its all about the quality of the packaging. If they can't recognise what the contents are by touch, and the package is well sealed perhaps with a return address sticker stuck on the back to prevent the opening of the seal, they get left alone. But when those letters come through that jangle about or feel like something that has value, they're the ones that are taken.
Title: Re: Mail theft?
Post by: th3creeper on April 27, 2012, 06:11 pm
It's not unusual to receive a package or envelope that's been emptied of it's contents.  There's usually a small thin slit made by a box cutter or razor blade along the side where a sort worker has pinched the pills pr powder and to avoid attention..sends the envelope along its way as if it never happened.  There is so much illegal activity perpetrated internally and by employees that the PO has two separate law enforcement/investigative agencies.  US Postal Inspectors investigate crimes against the PO, it's customers and employees/contractors.  For instance using the mail to transport contraband falls under the umbrella of Postal Inspectors.  USPS Office of Inspector General handles internal fraud, theft wast and abuse. 
Title: Re: Mail theft?
Post by: Howabsurd91 on April 27, 2012, 10:17 pm
I've had something similar happen to me recently. I purchased an order with a DCN that says my order was delivered April 26th and nothing was in my mailbox this whole week. Now, I was the first one at my mailbox every day, So I don't see how my neighbors could have stolen my mail. I was thinking maybe some postal inspectors could have stolen it, but that also doesn't make sense because if the mailman confirmed the delivery, then he must have had my letter and I assume it made it to him. So I'm thinking maybe he delivered it to the wrong address? I approached all of my surrounding neighbors about it and they all denied receiving any mail in my name. I am just fucking mystified.

I guess it could be either a fuck-up on the mailman's part or one of my neighbor are lying.
Title: Re: Mail theft?
Post by: Petrochlaor on April 28, 2012, 10:18 am
Hmmm.

I'll just have to hope either my vendor alters his packaging in some way to make it harder to steal or that the same post workers don't happen to run into my packages. Might even try a tracked delivery just to see if that prevents any theft. It's only weed, anyway, but it's not fun to lose money to bastards. I don't order anything else often enough for them to work out the patterns, I guess.

Cheers for the stories though, guys
Title: Re: Mail theft?
Post by: th3creeper on April 28, 2012, 12:53 pm
I guess it could be either a fuck-up on the mailman's part or one of my neighbor are lying.
This happens all the time.  Delivery Confirmation will only tell you if/when it was delivered.  It won't tell you to whom it was delivered nor will it tell you where it was delivered to.  There are several possible (and plausible)reasons you didn't get it.(btw, neighbor theft is about the least likeliest.
#1 The address on the pkg could have been incorrect.  You could have given an incorrect  address(mistakenly) or the shipper could have made an error transcribing the address you gave him.  If this was the case it doesn't at all mean it got delivered to a neighbor.  It could be anywhere along the carrier's route.
#2  The mail carrier could have unwittingly delivered the pkg to the wrong address.
#3  The mail carrier could have scanned the pkg as delivered and kept it for themselves.
#4  It could have been delivered correctly but someone came along and pinched it from your box.

Some shippers will take an picture or scan of the outside of the pkg before they send out just to have a record of where they sent to.  If the pkg never makes it at least there's a record of what address it was shipped to.  This will usually narrow down whether it was buyer's error or shipper error.  Most Priority pks go out with no record kept though and that makes it impossible to narrow things down.  Fact is sometimes mail just doesn't make it and you'll never know why.