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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: bynter on June 01, 2012, 04:29 pm
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You're all the greatest minds of the generation working together towards a common goal, pioneers achieving the paragon of web security & anonomoulty. Yet for a trading web this big, complex, and illegal, has a transaction from this site(or Armory) ever resulted in the known arrest of someone? If so, was it in the transaction itself or a seller trying to cash out his coins?
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I don't really think it's wise to discuss this tbh.
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I don't see why people ask these questions... if you're paranoid about ordering then don't order. For me the risk makes it interesting... otherwise I'd just buy from the street.
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I don't see why people ask these questions... if you're paranoid about ordering then don't order. For me the risk makes it interesting... otherwise I'd just buy from the street.
Hmm?? I honestly was just asking out of curiosity.
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Indeed.
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I don't see why people ask these questions... if you're paranoid about ordering then don't order. For me the risk makes it interesting... otherwise I'd just buy from the street.
Doesn't seem that logical to me. I would buy on the streets if they had to offer the stuff. I'm from a small town and the only thing you can get here without much effort is weed and speed. The Speed sucks. People can get you several stuff though if you ask them, but it's very cut so I wouldn't even consider buying any of it. On SR I know I'll get what I pay for.
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Having read through the OPs posts I suggest people be careful with him, sketchy questions.
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Having read through the OPs posts I suggest people be careful with him, sketchy questions.
oooh. Does that make me suspect as LE or a scammer?
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Having read through the OPs posts I suggest people be careful with him, sketchy questions.
oooh. Does that make me suspect as LE or a scammer?
To be frank, LE.
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Having read through the OPs posts I suggest people be careful with him, sketchy questions.
oooh. Does that make me suspect as LE or a scammer?
Sketchy questions make you sketchy.
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Having read through the OPs posts I suggest people be careful with him, sketchy questions.
oooh. Does that make me suspect as LE or a scammer?
To be frank, LE.
run like the wind, people, sketchy as a $3 bill.
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Having read through the OPs posts I suggest people be careful with him, sketchy questions.
oooh. Does that make me suspect as LE or a scammer?
To be frank, LE.
run like the wind, people, sketchy as a $3 bill.
Indeed.
So far we have had the following from the OP in other threads -
A) Who has been caught in a transaction on SR
B) How to buy BTC with PayPal (IMO looking like it's fishing for an offer on here)
C) The street values of certain drugs
D) Mentioning they are under 18
Along with various other comments that contradict one another.
Only question I am asking is will everyone be buying their own red flags or will they be needed to be distributed by helpers? Jesus Christ Mr Gammon, sharpen up because you certainly ain't no spicy Chorizo....more like a gone off ham sandwich.
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Oh and members here's the link where you can view this shit...tell me I'm wrong. - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=22270
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Oh and members here's the link where you can view this shit...tell me I'm wrong. - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=22270
Nope, you're right. The dude can't even keep his story straight.
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Oh and members here's the link where you can view this shit...tell me I'm wrong. - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=22270
Nope, you're right. The dude can't even keep his story straight.
I'm thinking local or maybe regional LE that hasn't a clue. Definitely not the Alphabet Mafia, just isn't smart enough.
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Jesus christ you guys are paranoid as hell what is wrong with asking if anyone has been caught ordering off of SR or not? Seems like a question I would love to know the answer to if I was new to SR and wanted to know how risky it was.
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Oh and members here's the link where you can view this shit...tell me I'm wrong. - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=22270
Nope, you're right. The dude can't even keep his story straight.
I'm thinking local or maybe regional LE that hasn't a clue. Definitely not the Alphabet Mafia, just isn't smart enough.
Alphabet Mafia... Love it!
With respect to the OP, you have to wonder what he thinks he's going to learn?
Now, speaking of the alphabet mafia, as far as the FBI goes, according to sources (Bamford?) the vast majority of FBI agents aren't comfortable with computers. It would appear that they're far more comfortable with a lined yellow pad and a pen than they are with a computer. I find myself wondering if it was pressure from the computer-phobic brass that led to the Mixmaster remailer seizures about a month ago now. Even the EFF commented that the FBI should have known better than to do this. The EFF also stated (correctly) that Mixmaster has been around for almost 20 years -- long enough that the Bureau should have learned in that time that such seizures were (and are) futile, as they would learn nothing.
Most of the FBI's records are still on paper; attempts to computerize their record keeping systems have flopped spectacularly, not to mention expensively. I seem to recall they've had at least two failed attempts so far.
Now, this may all change in future, as the older agents retire, and younger, more computer savvy personnel are recruited, but this remains to be seen. The culture there is anything but geek-friendly.
Guru
If you look at the FBI as being as skilled at computers as their average cybercrime agent, you can quickly see that they are on average not skilled. I always make comparisons to their CP operations just because there are soooo many to choose from and it shows them fighting one of their number one cyber enemies. The average cyber specialist at the FBI carries out CP operations against P2P networks by running software that is made for them that spiders the network looking for keywords that indicate CP, and then download and fuzzy hash the file and compare it to a database of known CP fingerprints. All the agent does is run this software, then they confirm the hit (which with fuzzy hashing is nearly 100% accurate anyway) and file paperwork to get the physical address of the person who owns the IP address, then they file paperwork to get a warrant to raid it (or they forward it on to the appropriate jurisdiction, and file the paperwork for the hits that are forwarded on to them, to get the warrant to raid someone in their jurisdiction). That is the average computer skill of an FBI cyber specialist. At the higher levels they are actually making the spidering software, which is more impressive, but they are often not even making exceptionally sophisticated spidering software (for example they only very recently started using fuzzy hashing, prior to this they were almost always using regular hashing which is much easier to circumvent as a single changed pixel changes the entire hash).
At the higher skill levels we can see that they can make proxy bypass attacks such as CIPAV. I have not seen any proof of them using zero days though, so they are exploiting known vulnerabilities to root targets and circumvent their anonymizers. This shows that they have coders but doesn't show that they know how to find zero days only how to implement attacks that have already had proof of concept published. The fact that we only see them using known exploits may be because that is all they need to use and they don't want to leak the full extent of their capability.
I used to have a copy of an FBI cyber specialist career path map that showed the titles of the courses they take at Quantico over a nine year or so period, but unfortunately I no longer have this. I will actually try to find it again and share the link here. I don't recall it verbatim, but I remember that around year nine is when they *started* learning about traffic analysis as well as how to configure custom linux and BSD kernels. It also showed an expectation of a year nine agent as leading an operation against a major cyber crime group, from identification of the group all the way to deanonymizing the members gathering evidence etc. So the FBI does have some people who understand at least the basics of traffic analysis and operating systems, probably more. If you take a year 10 agent they would have about one year study of traffic analysis and they would also be expected to be currently investigating or having already busted a major online cybercrime group. Then again they are probably the ones making the P2P spidering software, as it is traffic analysis. But it is very primitive traffic analysis, and it has been relatively unpolished until fairly recently.
I wonder how many year 9+ FBI cyber specialists there are. It would be nice to find how many years they have had a cyber specialist program for. I also absolutely must find and share that PDF here because I believe you will find it to be very valuable intelligence. Fuck, I wish I saved it.