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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: Ultimatebro on April 30, 2012, 05:42 pm
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First of all I live in Switzerland.
A few weeks ago I didn't receive a package, thought it was lost but today a man from the Judiciary Police called and asked me to go to the station. He said he couldn't tell me why on the phone but that it wasn't severe nor urgent. What the fuck do I do ? I'm kinda shitting my pants right now.
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a) Go to the station. Ask if you are arrested.
Yes - "I want a lawyer".
No - "Goodbye"
b) Get a lawyer, ask him.
And as always, since you're not arrested that means they don't have enough evidence. Chill and clean your house.
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Main thing to remember, is you've no control over who sends you anything in the mail. Some malicious person, could very well send you drugs, and then call the police over it. Main thing is not to act like a crook: what would a 'normal' person do, if someone sent them drugs in the mail, and the police confiscated it?
"Thankyou," answer questions politely and be on your way. If they arrest you, or course, or go any further, then you get a lawyer, but I doubt seriously this will happen...
Best wishes.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again
better call Saul
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"Thankyou," answer questions politely and be on your way. If they arrest you, or course, or go any further, then you get a lawyer, but I doubt seriously this will happen...
??? What makes you think Ultimatebro will be able to keep it cool ? Won't fidget, won't sweat, won't scratch his arms ? Will he recognize their lies when they tell him a fable about how his dealer already turned him in ? SR buyers aren't always veterans of street game, ready to deflect anything that police tells them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik
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Thanks everyone. Ignorance and lawyer it is then.
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If they wanted to arrest you they would've already..
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I would'nt go. They did'nt say they would arrest you if you did'nt go, did they ? I say screw em ! don't go.
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keep your mouth shut and play dumb deny everything. I wouldn't even show up let them come pick you up if they want you down there. If they do immediately request counsel and don't say anything else until you are able to speak with an attorney.
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please tell us how this worked out for you
I wouldn't step within 50 feet of a police station without a lawyer, SCREW THAT
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Don't even play dumb, don't say anything except 'Am I under arrest?' 'Can I see my arrest warrant?' and bring a lawyer. Always, always bring a lawyer let them talk or you will hang yourself. Expect they may watch you for awhile
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again
better call Saul
Saul? Is that Saul Rosenburg from the jerky boys? lmfao if it is......
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again
better call Saul
Saul? Is that Saul Rosenburg from the jerky boys? lmfao if it is......
it's a breaking bad reference
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Superderp said it right. They can suspect all they want, that's what they do. They all wanna be Dick Tracey and be the one to crack the big one. Say nothing. They will tell you why you are there. If it's got to do with mail just say I have idea about anything about any mail, am I under arrest? If they insist on asking more questions you should insist on a lawyer. If they have anything on you they will arrest you anyway, whether you talk or not. I know it feels like you are admitting to being guilty of something by doing that, but if you talk they will take what you say and use it anyway they can against you. You owe it to yourself to have an attorney involved if they intend to charge you with a crime. The lawyer will even the playing field. The cops can bend the rules with you because you don't know any better, the lawyer being there will prevent that.
Also, dont forget that these cops accuse and charge, thats what they do. Nothing you can tell them will change what they plan to do. Your guilt will be decided by a judge, period. If they have enough to charge you, they will. If they are trying to get you to talk its because they want to collect some easy evidence before they arrest you. Believe me when I say this, you talking can only make it worse, it will never make it better because these are cops, not judges. They have no say in anything, they simply collect evidence and charge people with shit.
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"Thankyou," answer questions politely and be on your way. If they arrest you, or course, or go any further, then you get a lawyer, but I doubt seriously this will happen...
??? What makes you think Ultimatebro will be able to keep it cool ? Won't fidget, won't sweat, won't scratch his arms ? Will he recognize their lies when they tell him a fable about how his dealer already turned him in ? SR buyers aren't always veterans of street game, ready to deflect anything that police tells them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik
Oh, you could be right, who knows. Just 'sometimes' on here we seem to get a bit away from what normal people would do, and imply that people should act like very knowledgable felons act, rather than the way a friendly innocent citizen would act. To me that gives cops reason to be suspicious. I had a mail inspector come to my house over some address confusion. I didn't *have* to speak to him, could have said "I want a lawyer!" and thereby opened up probably a whole new dimension in his thinking.
Instead we laughed, talked about the homeless kids around here, always wanting to use our addresses, god knows what they send in the mail...ha ha....
So we're still friends, all is well, and my nameless buds can still use this address, when their relatives/friends send them mail....
I know what to do when the shit gets heavy, and I know what to do when it's not. But I also know how to defuse a potentially heavy situation, by showing cops I've nothing to hide....But again, we're just passing on our experience, that's all....everybody has to decide for themselves depending on their own temperment, background, country this happens in, etc.
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Em.....they didnt arrest you? So DONT GO! Unless of course you want to help them voluntarily and trip yourself up.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again
better call Saul
gotta love that breaking bad. looking forward to this next season. WW is going to go ape now that he's boss.
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What if they are reading this? hmmm..
*passes around a box of tinfoil hats*
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What if they are reading this? hmmm..
*passes around a box of tinfoil hats*
*adds yet another tinfoil hat to head*
My neck's starting to strain under this weight.
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Pffft, fuckin' n00bs
I rock a stainless steel salad bowl on my shit. Tinfoil, HA!
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Umm. Seriously my friend. If they weren't concerned enough to get in a police car and come to your house, I'd say your pretty good. I can just imagine the other jackasses on the line ("He he, I wonder if he'll actually come). I swear man (not that I have a phone or an address) but if some shit for brains cop called me and asked me to come over, I'd move. Ha!
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Oh, you could be right, who knows. Just 'sometimes' on here we seem to get a bit away from what normal people would do, and imply that people should act like very knowledgable felons act, rather than the way a friendly innocent citizen would act. To me that gives cops reason to be suspicious. I had a mail inspector come to my house over some address confusion. I didn't *have* to speak to him, could have said "I want a lawyer!" and thereby opened up probably a whole new dimension in his thinking.
Instead we laughed, talked about the homeless kids around here, always wanting to use our addresses, god knows what they send in the mail...ha ha....
So we're still friends, all is well, and my nameless buds can still use this address, when their relatives/friends send them mail....
I know what to do when the shit gets heavy, and I know what to do when it's not. But I also know how to defuse a potentially heavy situation, by showing cops I've nothing to hide....But again, we're just passing on our experience, that's all....everybody has to decide for themselves depending on their own temperment, background, country this happens in, etc.
+1
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again
better call Saul
gotta love that breaking bad. looking forward to this next season. WW is going to go ape now that he's boss.
I wasn't aware that they were making another series. You just made my night :D
And OP, please keep us updated!
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3 days later... what is the result now?
May I ask what you bought and from where?
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Did you go? Royally stupid move if you did.
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Wait it out and if they get snappy tell 'em you're busy. No fucking reason why you need to go and personally entertain their bs. If they really need you, they'll come to you.
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better call Saul
This, brother, this.
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1) Buy a piece off the armory just in case and if any old bill turn up at your gaff pop a cap in their asses before turning the gun on yourself (do not leave a letter to confuse your family even more)
2) If they do not turn up, get yourself some night vision goggles and start and survey the station they want you to attend. Find out the name of the filth who called you, follow him home and kill his kids pets then ring him from a payphone with a voice scrambler to give him a 'warning' of what to expect if they do not turn 'off' the heat
3) But a new passport off SR and a copy of that book that tells you how to disappear and call yourself Keyse Sose
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... and call yourself Keyse Sose
Don't you mean Keyser Söze?
LOL
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1) Buy a piece off the armory just in case and if any old bill turn up at your gaff pop a cap in their asses before turning the gun on yourself (do not leave a letter to confuse your family even more)
2) If they do not turn up, get yourself some night vision goggles and start and survey the station they want you to attend. Find out the name of the filth who called you, follow him home and kill his kids pets then ring him from a payphone with a voice scrambler to give him a 'warning' of what to expect if they do not turn 'off' the heat
3) But a new passport off SR and a copy of that book that tells you how to disappear and call yourself Keyse Sose
100% sound advice.
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I'm not in Switzerland but i think they have to come to the station. Hope the OP lawered up. Or I talk shit.
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Take a xanax, Valium, Klonopin (may need to suck on this one instead of popping it outright) or other benzo before you go. If none are available ask your buddies about headshops that have etizolam or phenazepam, if all of the above fails take Kava-Kava from the health store.
Don't carry any of the above on you, just have enough in your system (e.g. .5 - 1 mg Xanax), taken orally at least 15- 20 min before, to combat anxiety.
In the south of the US xanax is used RELIGIOUSLY by Mexican drug smugglers crossing border stations. It helps you keep your composure, and there's almost no way for them to know its drug induced. Just make sure you dont use benzos regularly and save em for this circumstance, and dont take so much that youre nodding out, low - med low doses.
I have been in this position before, in my case it was simply my girlfriend filing complaints and being a stupid bitch, but i sat there for a few hours and didn't break a sweat. I'd recommend always keeping em handy for situations like this.
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^^ This
The best advice I have ever heard. Wow.
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Update?
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Bad things must have happened. bad things.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again
better call Saul
Saul? Is that Saul Rosenburg from the jerky boys? lmfao if it is......
"Laser surgery for hemorrhoids? Oh God, this is tearin' the ass outta me!"
lol, gotta go youtube some Jery Boys and pack a bowl now!! 8)
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First of all I live in Switzerland.
A few weeks ago I didn't receive a package, thought it was lost but today a man from the Judiciary Police called and asked me to go to the station. He said he couldn't tell me why on the phone but that it wasn't severe nor urgent. What the fuck do I do ? I'm kinda shitting my pants right now.
You could just ignore it or go and act right. Like you don't know what they are talking about. You may want to clean of your hard drive of any evidence
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Since the Pig didn't divulge what the query was about, perhaps it's completely unrelated?!
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Superderp said it right. They can suspect all they want, that's what they do. They all wanna be Dick Tracey and be the one to crack the big one. Say nothing. They will tell you why you are there. If it's got to do with mail just say I have idea about anything about any mail, am I under arrest? If they insist on asking more questions you should insist on a lawyer. If they have anything on you they will arrest you anyway, whether you talk or not. I know it feels like you are admitting to being guilty of something by doing that, but if you talk they will take what you say and use it anyway they can against you. You owe it to yourself to have an attorney involved if they intend to charge you with a crime. The lawyer will even the playing field. The cops can bend the rules with you because you don't know any better, the lawyer being there will prevent that.
Also, dont forget that these cops accuse and charge, thats what they do. Nothing you can tell them will change what they plan to do. Your guilt will be decided by a judge, period. If they have enough to charge you, they will. If they are trying to get you to talk its because they want to collect some easy evidence before they arrest you. Believe me when I say this, you talking can only make it worse, it will never make it better because these are cops, not judges. They have no say in anything, they simply collect evidence and charge people with shit.
I would +1 you if I could. Very good advice.