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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: rbd on May 01, 2012, 05:02 am
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Here's why.
1) He's been the number 1 seller on SR for some time now.
2) The 420 sale really hit him hard with tremendous loads of orders that he's trying to fill
3) He does not want to do an all out batch orders which would cause an attention to his process. So he is stretching out the time to send orders without raising alarm.
Some people claim a week or so for his usual orders to come through, but with the reasons above, his process has slowed down tremendously.
I say stick with patience and he will come though. All this bashing and speculation will probably push him leaving SR and scamming people because of the negative rants and lack of faith. I have trust he will come through. It's been only 10 days for me.
EDIT: Also, note with TFM going down, and more attention to SR, vendors are taking extra steps to be more careful. Just some reasonable thoughts, guys...
BTW, I have been scammed by PayThePiper a month back, but I feel this is different. Anyone feel differently, please provide a reasonable argument with logical deductions and without assumptions.
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I certainly hope so...I am very depressed over this.
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i can't tell if this is trolling or not
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no trolling here. just my perspective on his business. its only been 10 days. usually sellers take longer to send things out unless they use express shipping
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I disagree, I think the overwhelming evidence points to it being a scam.
As you say, he was #1 vendor. He has hundreds of people waiting on him right now, wondering what's going on. His vendor thread is one of the biggest on the forums and he was active in posting in it. Yet, he hasn't even come on here to explain himself? If I had people waiting on me and cared about my reputation (which he no doubt would if he was still pretending to be a legit person), even if I had fucked up my logistics and was going to take ages to send the packages, I would come on here and explain myself. As would ANYONE who wasn't a complete scammer.
And secondly, he didn't send out any shipments a week before the sale. He then opened for international customers. Then he started sending people a link to his own .onion store so he could carry on the scam for as long as possible.
And coincidentally, in the past month, 3 new vendors have appeared out of Canada. OPI, selling Tony's heroin pebbles (which noone else sold), AfternoonDelight (selling Tony's acid), and Tomorrowman (selling mdma/coke). That's all of Tony's main products right there.
I'm sorry, but this just seems like a scam through and through.
I'm hoping i'm wrong, because fuck I want my MDMA, but I just think he would have already come on here to explain himself if he had any honest intentions. He KNOWS he has people waiting on him, any good vendor would make themselves heard.
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my order is still processing at t mart
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Some good points there. But why start all over with new accounts when he was on top? I think he is avoiding the bashing because he is overloaded with too much noise and cant respond to it all. Just like a crazy girlfriend who wont stop complaining. Just ignore her and do your thing. If I were him, I would just try to get the shipments out as soon as possible, and then come back to squash all the rumors with results.
That's how I would handle it. Ignore the noise and deal with work to continue being the best
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^^^^^ Man it takes 2 sec to update your vendor page or post in the forum ....2 sec not a few days or anything that will slow down your *business* hes gone and so is the money :'(
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I disagree, I think the overwhelming evidence points to it being a scam.
As you say, he was #1 vendor. He has hundreds of people waiting on him right now, wondering what's going on. His vendor thread is one of the biggest on the forums and he was active in posting in it. Yet, he hasn't even come on here to explain himself? If I had people waiting on me and cared about my reputation (which he no doubt would if he was still pretending to be a legit person), even if I had fucked up my logistics and was going to take ages to send the packages, I would come on here and explain myself. As would ANYONE who wasn't a complete scammer.
And secondly, he didn't send out any shipments a week before the sale. He then opened for international customers. Then he started sending people a link to his own .onion store so he could carry on the scam for as long as possible.
And coincidentally, in the past month, 3 new vendors have appeared out of Canada. OPI, selling Tony's heroin pebbles (which noone else sold), AfternoonDelight (selling Tony's acid), and Tomorrowman (selling mdma/coke). That's all of Tony's main products right there.
I'm sorry, but this just seems like a scam through and through.
I'm hoping i'm wrong, because fuck I want my MDMA, but I just think he would have already come on here to explain himself if he had any honest intentions. He KNOWS he has people waiting on him, any good vendor would make themselves heard.
OPI is not Tony man. Ive dealt with him. Cannot confirm the either two but the area they are from is the drug Capital of North America. Certaintly of all of Canada where tons come in every day. I think tony will be back.
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rbd is tony76
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Anthony, not a chance haha. just giving a possibility of the sellers point of view. Anyone receive from Tony yet lately, and can vouch for his quality?
If the quality is different, then something may be wrong
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I got hit HARD by the 420 sales. Over 150 orders in less than 24 hours so this seems very likely. It took me one week to process all orders and ship from two days of listings
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when will the tony threads end??
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exactly, USdirectforyou. if you get 3 to 4 times the regular amount of orders, itll take you that much longer to process it all
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I got hit HARD by the 420 sales. Over 150 orders in less than 24 hours so this seems very likely. It took me one week to process all orders and ship from two days of listings
Yeah, but you're here on the forums and are talking about it.
Where the fuck is Tony?
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what if his computer died?
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exactly, USdirectforyou. if you get 3 to 4 times the regular amount of orders, itll take you that much longer to process it all
yup plus being #1 he is probably making a KILLING from SR. Why ruin a good paying job...? I'm sure dude got it harder than I did with the 420 sales and if he is a one man OP like me than Yea you better believe it's gonna take a while to get everything shipped. I couldn't imagine having to process 500-1000 orders in 1 week like he might have....
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we'll see by the end of this week. if shipments trickle in, good news. anyone who received recently, report in.
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and by the end of this week then its over for good right?
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It hasn't been that long since the sale and I think that Tony76 is just trying to send out huge amounts of orders. At one point during the sale, I saw new feedback appearing on his profile page every 2 - 3 minutes and that's just buyers who are finalizing early... One thing that Tony76 should have done to prevent the ensuing mass panic was to mark all of the orders that haven't been shipped out as "processing" instead of "in transit". Most of the orders are probably 3-4 days (maybe up to a week now) behind and if Tony76 would have been straightforward with us and left all unshipped orders as "processing", this never would have happened...
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if he was stretching orders out instead of sending everything in a one week period,then atleast %20-%40 of people who ordered would have gotten something by now. but NO one has GOTTEN ANYTHING,nothing at all for atleast the last 3 weeks,so that theory in my opinion is not valid..
I know that some one said he had auto withdraw for his BTC but shouldnt a admin atleast check and make a thread here about this? who knows there could be 1k BTC sitting in his acct. that could be moved into a refund account of some sort.
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yeah where the fuck is the professionalism admin could at least have a write up reminding people to be wary and not to finalize early and what not
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There are good points to both sides, id give it another week and then we can call it. Tony was number one and had quite a reputation for being honest and good, and in every post i read he sounded friendly and not like an asshole at all. But also for rbd said about batching it out, i think the smartest thing for a vendor to do would be to send it out not all in one day but some every once in a while, so i think some people would have gotten there orders. does anyone have a time frame of when packages stopped arriving. Hopefully he come back from his trip, cuz losing tony would be a huge loss to the market :'(. Or worse if he really did scam us, it would be hard to trust anyone here again, particularly since he was the best of the best.
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I still have an order from 3dames Im waiting for, and its been almost a month!
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can someone hack into tmart please
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If anyone would read Tony's posts prior to his 'disappearance' it seemed like he was getting a little fed up with all the bitching and flaming against him on this very Forum. Maybe he just saw 4:20 as the ideal time to exit this whole scene. I can't imagine ever being a coke or heroin dealer: dealing with the insatiable demands of drug addicts while trying to keep under the radar of LE must be incredibly stressful . Btw: There are some rumors that he may have been dipping into the yayo a little too much... but those are just rumors of course.(?)
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maybe he decided to get out while he was ahead with a big fuck you to everyone? just one big fat mid-spring bonu$, then hit the road to vegas.
he's playing craps right now guys... hate to break it to ya.
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smeegol is tony76
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I also highly doubt that Opi is selling Tony's pebbles. It just tells me that in Canada pebbles are being got.
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how can you say you trust?
i really hope he scammed everyone so you guys will learn not to finalize early. hes not your fucking friend, hes here to make money.
they have a warning to not finalize early.
all the blame is on you for clicking it. i dont understand how you could blame SR one bit.
use the god damn escrow system. all your complaining does is show how stupid you are.
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Anyone stop to notice how anThONY76 is trolling this post?
Come on guys... Likely not Tony, but troll none the less.
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smeegol is tony76
;)
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yeah where the fuck is the professionalism admin could at least have a write up reminding people to be wary and not to finalize early and what not
"ATTENTION: If you finalize early or pay your seller directly, you do so at your OWN risk "
Before you ever submit your order. And you know your BTC transfers are non-traceable/non-refundable.
View it as a learning experience and next time take two seconds to read the Buyer's guide, the wiki, the forums, anything.
AND if you didn't know what Finalizing was and the risks that came with it, you didn't lose enough to be crying about it.
The admins do a great job providing you with all the information and warning they can. If you're not going to be careful with your money: That's on you, not them.
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C&P directly from Mitanox's profile:
"I will ship out everything ordered during the sale a bit later and in small batches to not cause suspicion by the postal service (im a 100% sure that they know SR is having a sale)."
Tony is probably doing this - with the volume of orders he'd have received it could take up to a week.
As to why he hasn't posted - if you came and saw all this shit going on, would you really bother giving an update?
Though maybe has has buggered off with all our money :P
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You guys are all in denial... If he was posting out orders why wouldn't he type up a quick message on his SR profile page saying just that or post in the Forums like every other vendor does. Skyy I am sure got just as many orders in the sale and do you see any posts about his orders not being recieved... NO
Anyway - If was taking a break from SR he would have said he was taking an x week break not 48hours. trust me the 48hours gave him breathing room to clear out all his bitcoins before his account was frozen by SR...
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First of all, I'm not in denial, I'm in Orangeberg SC. Second, SR freezes accounts? To what end? Where do the frozen assets go? Eye patches for DPR, or doritos for the mods, or both?
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Maybe you should consider moving to 'denial' then cause you would fit right in ;)
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stfu now, you and the communtiy obviously needed this. better now than later. wow so much shitstorm in here.
how often anymore: you FE at your own risk !!! fuckin pussies
just be happy you gained this experience. can we please delete all tony threads now. (troll thread is ok)
thanks
Edit: btw be glad, you haven't lost the money to some nigga holding a gun in ya face.
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Maybe you should consider moving to 'denial' then cause you would fit right in ;)
Hmm, looking on craiglist now at apartment prices, I may actually do this.
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NZ & Aus Still keeping the faith in BROTHER Tony!!
P.s : Tony if you read this just make sure you send my order 1st.
Cheers Bro
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One reason he may not of posted an update, is that he doesn't have to.
I mean why? All he has to do is wait for the orders to be received, and everyone will be happy again: i.e. "I got my drugs, everything is cool".
If he responds to any of these threads, is everyone going to go, "OK, I'll just chill until I get my order." ?
No, it's going to be: "Tony, when did you ship MY order out? I need an exact time" etc, etc.
Personally, I hadn't expected to receive my order until sometime this week, because of the sale. If I don't receive, I'll move on. I didn't FE anymore than I could lose, like gambling.
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we <3 you tony come back
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I disagree, I think the overwhelming evidence points to it being a scam.
As you say, he was #1 vendor. He has hundreds of people waiting on him right now, wondering what's going on. His vendor thread is one of the biggest on the forums and he was active in posting in it. Yet, he hasn't even come on here to explain himself? If I had people waiting on me and cared about my reputation (which he no doubt would if he was still pretending to be a legit person), even if I had fucked up my logistics and was going to take ages to send the packages, I would come on here and explain myself. As would ANYONE who wasn't a complete scammer.
And secondly, he didn't send out any shipments a week before the sale. He then opened for international customers. Then he started sending people a link to his own .onion store so he could carry on the scam for as long as possible.
And coincidentally, in the past month, 3 new vendors have appeared out of Canada. OPI, selling Tony's heroin pebbles (which noone else sold), AfternoonDelight (selling Tony's acid), and Tomorrowman (selling mdma/coke). That's all of Tony's main products right there.
I'm sorry, but this just seems like a scam through and through.
I'm hoping i'm wrong, because fuck I want my MDMA, but I just think he would have already come on here to explain himself if he had any honest intentions. He KNOWS he has people waiting on him, any good vendor would make themselves heard.
Opening up to international shipping is the biggest red flag to me. That's not consistent with someone wanting to maintain a low profile and stay in business. Not at Tony's volumes.
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I didn't FE anymore than I could lose, like gambling.
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Hmmm.
If it helps, I placed an order through Tony76 on April 8th and received in Canada on April 18th I believe. 8 business days.
I had also placed an order through OPI (and whom I very much doubt is Tony76, but I cannot completely rule it out. I don't know either of them from their computers) on the same day. I had good, prompt response time through private messages. (Whereas Tony76 didn't respond- and I didn't expect him to, really.) OPI's product arrived extremely quickly, in only 5 business days, compared to Tony76's 8 business days.
I believe, Tony76 has a fair amount of clients and is extremely busy. And, really, I don't think it's unfair at all to want to get away from the drama this place incites. I'd give it a full 5 business days (ie a WEEK) before I'd even question it. FFS people. Drug dealing, 90% of it is just waiting for shit. So wait.
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damnit, tony. i back you up, and now youve ruined my karma! double stabbed!!
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what's that sound? dice? slots?
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tony got runned over
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Hmmm.
If it helps, I placed an order through Tony76 on April 8th and received in Canada on April 18th I believe. 8 business days.
I had also placed an order through OPI (and whom I very much doubt is Tony76, but I cannot completely rule it out. I don't know either of them from their computers) on the same day. I had good, prompt response time through private messages. (Whereas Tony76 didn't respond- and I didn't expect him to, really.) OPI's product arrived extremely quickly, in only 5 business days, compared to Tony76's 8 business days.
I believe, Tony76 has a fair amount of clients and is extremely busy. And, really, I don't think it's unfair at all to want to get away from the drama this place incites. I'd give it a full 5 business days (ie a WEEK) before I'd even question it. FFS people. Drug dealing, 90% of it is just waiting for shit. So wait.
Considering he's just deleted his own private vending site T-mart, I very much doubt it.
It was a fucking scam. If he intended to come back he would have left his site up.