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Title: acetic anhydride or acetylchloride for making pure H
Post by: CountZero on September 19, 2012, 03:14 pm
I think there would be a lot of people buying this stuff, everyone who is in a substitution program and gets morphine!

I could post an easy way for the synthesis with acetic anhydride, where you need nothing but morphine, sodium carbonate and acetic anhydride.
The entire process takes about an hour.

For acetylchloride it takes one step more, if someone wants to know just post!

Think about it, someone, could sell it on SR for a lot less than standard high quality stuff.

That would be great for everyone!
 8)
Title: Re: acetic anhydride or acetylchloride for making pure H
Post by: cannibal777 on June 29, 2013, 06:54 pm
i want to know.
i know its a late post but are you still around?
Title: Re: acetic anhydride or acetylchloride for making pure H
Post by: morphineman on June 30, 2013, 03:23 am
hi im canadiandrugs i have pure morphine in 50 mg tabs no addatives no fillers or wax ,the best to change to heroin. i sell in bulk, anyone interested in making h buy my stuff and make millions.
right now im offering a sake get 50% bonus product. yes 50%
Title: Re: acetic anhydride or acetylchloride for making pure H
Post by: fractalglobal on July 04, 2013, 03:26 am
I suggest you learn enough o-chem to produce it yourself.(It's really not difficult!) 

I had a quick look through the synthesis, and although it seems simple enough, the lab skills required to yield anything close to a clean product would be far in excess of those needed to get to acetic anhydride from acetic acid.

The writeup that you read is for large scale production.  Unless you are planning to do 100g+ batches at a time, you will almost  certainly need to use HCl gas to attain diacetyl morphine HCl.  Aqueous titration requires stoichiometric amounts of product and acid.
Title: Re: acetic anhydride or acetylchloride for making pure H
Post by: cannibal777 on July 04, 2013, 06:20 am
i have access to many morphine pills and heard acetic anhydride is all i need to make heroin.
does this step make #3 or #4 h?
Title: Re: acetic anhydride or acetylchloride for making pure H
Post by: cannibal777 on July 04, 2013, 07:03 am
your a fucking dochebag posting peoples personal info
Title: Re: acetic anhydride or acetylchloride for making pure H
Post by: fractalglobal on July 04, 2013, 10:33 am
your a fucking dochebag posting peoples personal info

Err I've seen similar messages around a few threads tonight but the personal info and post containing it have all been deleted, who is the person posting the info?
Title: Re: acetic anhydride or acetylchloride for making pure H
Post by: gardenfresh on July 04, 2013, 11:45 am
I suggest you learn enough o-chem to produce it yourself.(It's really not difficult!) 

I had a quick look through the synthesis, and although it seems simple enough, the lab skills required to yield anything close to a clean product would be far in excess of those needed to get to acetic anhydride from acetic acid.

The writeup that you read is for large scale production.  Unless you are planning to do 100g+ batches at a time, you will almost  certainly need to use HCl gas to attain diacetyl morphine HCl.  Aqueous titration requires stoichiometric amounts of product and acid.

Sounds like you know what your doing, do you know if its possible to extract morphine from poppy straw/pods, and then convert into heroin?
Title: Re: acetic anhydride or acetylchloride for making pure H
Post by: fractalglobal on July 04, 2013, 12:50 pm
I suggest you learn enough o-chem to produce it yourself.(It's really not difficult!) 

I had a quick look through the synthesis, and although it seems simple enough, the lab skills required to yield anything close to a clean product would be far in excess of those needed to get to acetic anhydride from acetic acid.

The writeup that you read is for large scale production.  Unless you are planning to do 100g+ batches at a time, you will almost  certainly need to use HCl gas to attain diacetyl morphine HCl.  Aqueous titration requires stoichiometric amounts of product and acid.

Sounds like you know what your doing, do you know if its possible to extract morphine from poppy straw/pods, and then convert into heroin?

Sure it is, be aware though, that there are over 40 different opiods that have been identified in poppies, and that acetylation requires you to isolate morphine specifically.  If you mess up the extraction, it's likely your final product will be contaminated with opiates that are far more toxic than plain heroin.

Ref:
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/heroinmfg.html
Title: Re: acetic anhydride or acetylchloride for making pure H
Post by: tree on July 04, 2013, 11:20 pm
Street heroin, even very pure one still contains narcotine, thebaine, papaverine and codeine... The acylated esters of those opiates aren't more dangerous than heroin though and they're only present in small proportions. I'd worry more about the binders left from your morphine pills..

That being said, precursors sellers will most likely have acetic anhydride, PM them if they don't have it in stock. People like Drug Ape would be able to get it for sure. And FYI, you don't only need anhydride and morphine, see below :

Taken from http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=129116.0 :
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10g of morphine.HCl or freebase was added to 30g acetic anhydride, this was refluxed at 85C for 6 hours, after the solution cooled, 90ml dH2O was added, (5-10ml chloroform or dichloromethane may be added also), the solution stirred for 30 minutes and left standing for 20 minutes, the chloroform/dcm layer should be coloured red from the greasy impurities, that layer was separated in a sep funnel and the aqueous (upper) layer saved. 5 grams of activated charcoal was added to the aqueous layer and allowed to absorb more impurities, filter and repeat until solution is clear.
22g of sodium carbonate dissolved in 30ml hot water are added to the solution until heroin freebase precipitates, the white powdery heroin base was dried, purification was obtained by dissolving it in twice it's mass of boiling absolute ethanol, filtering the solution into a pre warmed filter and flask, removing traces of sodium carbonate that remained in the base.
The ethanol solution was evaporated to obtain pretty fucking pure heroin base.
10g of heroin base was added to 65ml absolute ethanol, 70ml dry Et2O, 30% HCl was added drop wise until pH was 7. As soon as it's done converting, 30ml dry EtOH was added and 35ml Et2O with it. As soon the crystals precipitate, 20ml Et2O is added at once, the solution stirred, after one hour the solution should be close to solid, the heroin was filtered, the rocks were allowed to dry by air.
Yield: pretty fucking pure heroin.HCl
Title: Re: acetic anhydride or acetylchloride for making pure H
Post by: fractalglobal on July 05, 2013, 02:17 am
Street heroin, even very pure one still contains narcotine, thebaine, papaverine and codeine... The acylated esters of those opiates aren't more dangerous than heroin though and they're only present in small proportions. I'd worry more about the binders left from your morphine pills..

That being said, precursors sellers will most likely have acetic anhydride, PM them if they don't have it in stock. People like Drug Ape would be able to get it for sure. And FYI, you don't only need anhydride and morphine, see below :

Taken from http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=129116.0 :
Quote
10g of morphine.HCl or freebase was added to 30g acetic anhydride, this was refluxed at 85C for 6 hours, after the solution cooled, 90ml dH2O was added, (5-10ml chloroform or dichloromethane may be added also), the solution stirred for 30 minutes and left standing for 20 minutes, the chloroform/dcm layer should be coloured red from the greasy impurities, that layer was separated in a sep funnel and the aqueous (upper) layer saved. 5 grams of activated charcoal was added to the aqueous layer and allowed to absorb more impurities, filter and repeat until solution is clear.
22g of sodium carbonate dissolved in 30ml hot water are added to the solution until heroin freebase precipitates, the white powdery heroin base was dried, purification was obtained by dissolving it in twice it's mass of boiling absolute ethanol, filtering the solution into a pre warmed filter and flask, removing traces of sodium carbonate that remained in the base.
The ethanol solution was evaporated to obtain pretty fucking pure heroin base.
10g of heroin base was added to 65ml absolute ethanol, 70ml dry Et2O, 30% HCl was added drop wise until pH was 7. As soon as it's done converting, 30ml dry EtOH was added and 35ml Et2O with it. As soon the crystals precipitate, 20ml Et2O is added at once, the solution stirred, after one hour the solution should be close to solid, the heroin was filtered, the rocks were allowed to dry by air.
Yield: pretty fucking pure heroin.HCl


Clearnet link:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11714588

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The observation that acetylcodeine potentiated the convulsant effects of diacetylmorphine suggests a mechanism for some of the heroin-related deaths reported in human addicts.

Clearnet link:
Title: Re: acetic anhydride or acetylchloride for making pure H
Post by: tree on July 05, 2013, 10:21 am
Well I wasn't aware of that. I knew IV codeine was dangerous but I didn't think that there was enough codeine or acetylcodeine in heroin for it be of much concern. I'm pretty sure that for people with a low tolerance, the acteylcodeine isn't significant though.