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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: Greynick on October 09, 2011, 05:04 pm

Title: FBI demands encryption backdoors ...
Post by: Greynick on October 09, 2011, 05:04 pm
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/09/fbi-drive-for-encryption-backdoors-is-deja-vu-for-security-experts.ars
Title: Re: FBI demands encryption backdoors ...
Post by: Rook on October 09, 2011, 08:32 pm
Probably wouldn't affect us even if it did pass.  They can't go back in time and prevent PGP from ever being invented (yet).
Title: Re: FBI demands encryption backdoors ...
Post by: RapidImprovement on October 09, 2011, 10:54 pm
Yikes. Invite only Torv2?
Title: Re: FBI demands encryption backdoors ...
Post by: Paperchasing on October 10, 2011, 12:46 am
Yes, and they would like cameras in every room of your house too including the bathroom to but that don't mean there gonna get it lol...
Title: Re: FBI demands encryption backdoors ...
Post by: biscuit on October 10, 2011, 01:11 am
Yes, and they would like cameras in every room of your house too including the bathroom to but that don't mean there gonna get it lol...


You do realize that the spooks can see you through your laptop video camera, ever hear of remote access, they even keep the video camera light off(a simple programming trick) so you never even notice

Me personally have a piece of paper taped over the lense at all times, and i never leave home with out the tinfoil
Title: Re: FBI demands encryption backdoors ...
Post by: RedRocket on October 12, 2011, 11:05 am
^thats fucked up man, now you got me paranoid...

i usually use two encryption programs,just incase one is dodge
Title: Re: FBI demands encryption backdoors ...
Post by: anonomiss1 on October 12, 2011, 02:08 pm
Thanks for the heads up
Title: Re: FBI demands encryption backdoors ...
Post by: Diamond on October 12, 2011, 06:23 pm
This article is from a year ago, has anyone seen an update to this story?

On the face of it, the proposal doesn't appear to have legs. There are worlds more to the concept of "national security" than the ability of law enforcement agencies to spy on subjects. Our entire data infrastructure requires strong encryption. A backdoor is nothing more than a blatant flaw in the system, which would be KNOWN, actively pursued, and quickly exploited.

Plus, as I understand it, it's not even a capability given the way encryption works? I know flaws happen, but to build every encryption system with *the same* flaw doesn't seem possible. Anyone who has access to the source code (or EVERYONE in OSS) would have access to the back door key, either directly or indirectly. I'm sure they would take steps to prevent such a leak, but it wouldn't last forever.

And that's just if it's even doable. Could a system that encrypts using AES-256 just be updated to include a back-door key? It sounds more like the people who proposed it have watched too many spy movies. Fuck! Even beyond my personal desire for privacy (fuck that, my RIGHT to privacy) it sounds like any implementation would be an international disaster waiting to happen.
Title: Re: FBI demands encryption backdoors ...
Post by: brainstew on October 25, 2011, 12:39 am
Yes, and they would like cameras in every room of your house too including the bathroom to but that don't mean there gonna get it lol...


You do realize that the spooks can see you through your laptop video camera, ever hear of remote access, they even keep the video camera light off(a simple programming trick) so you never even notice

Me personally have a piece of paper taped over the lense at all times, and i never leave home with out the tinfoil

lol, that was pretty funny.

On the serious side, I check my router logs and they are just inundated with attempted connections from China, most likely hackers. I turn my wireless connection off on my laptop when not in use.
Title: Re: FBI demands encryption backdoors ...
Post by: electriccrazyman on October 25, 2011, 03:03 am
This is the same old story that our government has been trying to implement for years. Encryption makes wiretapping difficult so they are trying to outlaw encryption. It's not possible to have true, secure encryption with backdoors. For many years our government classified encryption as a weapon and "controlled" its export. Open source and the internet have combined to make that whole effort irrelevant.

It's not going to happen because it makes no sense. Law enforcement is going to have to deal with a world that has gone back to the past, when laws were written, where a person could whisper something and expect not to be overheard.
Title: Re: FBI demands encryption backdoors ...
Post by: faggot on October 25, 2011, 06:59 am
^thats fucked up man, now you got me paranoid...

i usually use two encryption programs,just incase one is dodge

this.

i also use multiple encryption programs. im a wise old man