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Title: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: taruth on April 02, 2012, 06:19 pm
I am in a position in my life where I am sick of my current country (and its ridiculous attitude towards drugs) and would be interested in people's opinion on what country's they would recommend if I wanted to spend 2 or 3 years somewhere with easy access to hard opiates (heroin, morphine, opium) and, ideally, other strong pharm's (particularly benzo's)?

I am a westerner so would prefer a country where I wouldn't be a easy target for violence or being ripped off constantly.

I have heard people mention times they've spent in India and/or Pakistan but I am a relatively naive traveler having only been to other western countries (in my region of the world).

Money is not a major object and I would be happy to make a few shorter trips to get to grips with things before moving there for an extended period but as part of my short existence on this planet I would like to spend a few years developing a nice strong opiate habit. I am by no means naive to opiates and am currently addicted anyway but would like to get as close to the source as possible. From my current knowledge (and it's not really any type of secret) Afghanistan is still by far the world's leading supplier of illicit opiates but I don't think I have the balls to consider going anywhere near there. :)

So, if anyone has had a desire in a similar life journey that they have followed through with, any recommendations would be much appreciated?
Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: phubaiblues on April 02, 2012, 06:31 pm
Good question.  First, I'd probably recommend--if u haven't already--that you check out opiophile.org, where this comes up regularly, and often you'll have people either living in, or who have visited different countries for just this reason.

Because of the war, unless you are very knowledgable and brave, I'd probably rule out the most obvious, being afghanistan.  Harsh night life, I've heard, but all is available, there and neighboring places.

Mexico, seems to depend more on luck: it's everywhere and nowhere, and tar can be a mixed blessing anyway.  Colombia would probably be a better choice, simply because most of the good powder in the US comes from there.  I'd probably do a bit of reading on Colombia, and find a city that sounds appealing, once you are there, it's all about just walking around with a junky look on your face, and again: get lucky.

A nice place to visit, and where there are all kinds of interesting developments happening, would be Vancouver in Canada.  Once there, go stay in one of the SRO cheap hotels downtown, and wander over to the Insite injection room.  They've got a large amount of addicts there, and I defy you to walk around there and not bump into some dope.  Be careful tho: if you have felony convictions or even a dui conviction, in the good old USA, they will ask that in customs, and if you lie they seem to always catch you and send you back.  I hear that is really embarassing, but I've known people it's happened to.  But once in country, that's probably the safest place to hang and be hopeful.

That's my quick take :)
Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: jtemp102311 on April 02, 2012, 07:21 pm
i think i read that germany gives out free morphine tabs to anyone claiming they're addicted... don't quote me on this ;)
Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: jtemp102311 on April 02, 2012, 07:23 pm
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A nice place to visit, and where there are all kinds of interesting developments happening, would be Vancouver in Canada.  Once there, go stay in one of the SRO cheap hotels downtown, and wander over to the Insite injection room.  They've got a large amount of addicts there, and I defy you to walk around there and not bump into some dope.  Be careful tho: if you have felony convictions or even a dui conviction, in the good old USA, they will ask that in customs, and if you lie they seem to always catch you and send you back.  I hear that is really embarassing, but I've known people it's happened to.  But once in country, that's probably the safest place to hang and be hopeful.

That's my quick take :)

good looks on the dui thing brother
Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: taruth on April 03, 2012, 07:35 am
I have no felony convictions or drug-related convictions.

I have access to multiple passports due to my parents being from a different country.

I agree Canada does seem like an obvious starting point being a very western country. I guess my concern is that it is not any closer to the purer substances than the current country I am living in.

I am obviously being vague so sorry if that is frustrating.

I will take phubaiblues advice and investigate opiophile.org further. I am aware of the site and have spent many hours there but I must admit it's been awhile since I visited the site.

I am still open to recommendations if anyone has any other interesting ideas.
Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: mdmafx on April 03, 2012, 10:46 am
Tasmania Australia they legally grow opium, they vast amounts of poppy fields if you are good at jumping fences move there
Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: lefthandspinner on April 03, 2012, 11:04 am
cambodia cheap to live and score  and pure stuff. police cheap to pay off and jail time no where near as much as the others in that area

i havnt been just what friends said
Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: taruth on April 03, 2012, 11:55 am
Tasmania Australia they legally grow opium, they vast amounts of poppy fields if you are good at jumping fences move there

lol.. you don't realise how funny this suggestion is. Fuck it I'll give myself away! When I was much younger (way before my opiate addiction) I lived in Tasmania and had friends who lived literally minutes from the poppy fields. We would regularly drive by and they would point out the fields and at the time I had absolutely NO idea what was I was looking at except some nice looking flowers. Also at that time there was absolutely no need to jump fences. The poppies were literally growing right up to the side of the road.

Now it's been many, many years since I've been back so perhaps things have tightened up but even as you say the maximum effort would probably be to jump a fence.

And now I've essentially admitted to living in Australia your idea is possibly worth some consideration. :D

lefthandspinner: I also had friends live in Cambodia for short periods of time but from their descriptions it is relatively dangerous. I suppose if I found a hook-up and then kept to myself things would probably be fine but these same friends actually witnessed multiple murders while they were there. The victims were locals so perhaps as a westerner with enough cash to keep myself out of trouble it is a possibility. Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: yournamehere on April 03, 2012, 12:30 pm
Cambodia, Northern Laos, Southern Vietnam or Yunan Province, China

All of those have access to opiates, lax police/enforcement and available drugs.  Hell, pot grows wild in Yunan.

As for a visa/work permit, you're on your own.  Good luck though, living overseas and doing drugs is much more fun than sittin at home!
Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: Limetless on April 04, 2012, 04:32 am
Yournamehere I think you may need to review that pearl of wisdom.

I have been to the Vietnam, China and Thailand and anyone under the illusion that countries like that or the surrounding ones have lax police is either lying or has no idea what they are on about and it doesn't matter that you may be white and in a Hawaiian shirt either. Yeah, those countries do have easy access to cheap and high quality opiates but the penalties for getting caught with them are ridiculous, why do you think life is so cheap there? In China, Cambodia, Vietnam, Burma for example, they can execute you if they think you are a drug dealer and they don't give a fuck if they get it wrong. Also if you get put away you may as well shoot yourself. It's not like the west where you may only get raped once or twice unless you are a real pussy. You'll get gangbanged by the lot of them in a filthy cell, they will then cut you open and the guards will sell your organs back to rich Americans.

So yeah, by all means go on an Asian smack tour, good times to be had by all but don't think that Asian 5-O is lax by any means. Who doesn't know that?

Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: mdmafx on April 04, 2012, 12:57 pm
Tasmania Australia they legally grow opium, they vast amounts of poppy fields if you are good at jumping fences move there

lol.. you don't realise how funny this suggestion is. Fuck it I'll give myself away! When I was much younger (way before my opiate addiction) I lived in Tasmania and had friends who lived literally minutes from the poppy fields. We would regularly drive by and they would point out the fields and at the time I had absolutely NO idea what was I was looking at except some nice looking flowers. Also at that time there was absolutely no need to jump fences. The poppies were literally growing right up to the side of the road.

Now it's been many, many years since I've been back so perhaps things have tightened up but even as you say the maximum effort would probably be to jump a fence.

And now I've essentially admitted to living in Australia your idea is possibly worth some consideration. :D


Not only that but they consider anything up to 25grams (herion and mdma) included to be personal use  8)
The trade off is the locals in Tassie would consider your Mother being your Fathers Sister as a part of life  :)
Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: yournamehere on April 04, 2012, 06:17 pm
Yournamehere I think you may need to review that pearl of wisdom.

I have been to the Vietnam, China and Thailand and anyone under the illusion that countries like that or the surrounding ones have lax police is either lying or has no idea what they are on about and it doesn't matter that you may be white and in a Hawaiian shirt either. Yeah, those countries do have easy access to cheap and high quality opiates but the penalties for getting caught with them are ridiculous, why do you think life is so cheap there? In China, Cambodia, Vietnam, Burma for example, they can execute you if they think you are a drug dealer and they don't give a fuck if they get it wrong. Also if you get put away you may as well shoot yourself. It's not like the west where you may only get raped once or twice unless you are a real pussy. You'll get gangbanged by the lot of them in a filthy cell, they will then cut you open and the guards will sell your organs back to rich Americans.

So yeah, by all means go on an Asian smack tour, good times to be had by all but don't think that Asian 5-O is lax by any means. Who doesn't know that?

Yes, the rules are strict.  However,

China- Police are corrupt and hesitant to mess with foreigners.  Plus completely lazy.
Vietnam- Southern Vietnam is incredibly lax.  Anything south of Hue you're much more likely to successfully bribe for a lot less (They love American Malboro Reds).  The north....not so much.
Thailand- Stay away from Bangkok.  The northern part of the country has a lot less police presence.  Bribes don't work as well.

There isn't any perfect place but when I was living in those countries I had access to raw opium (not my thing, never messed with it).  I bought drugs often overseas and had to pay off a law man before.  Be smart and blend in and you won't get caught
Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: phubaiblues on April 05, 2012, 07:42 am
Cambodia, Northern Laos, Southern Vietnam or Yunan Province, China

All of those have access to opiates, lax police/enforcement and available drugs.  Hell, pot grows wild in Yunan.

As for a visa/work permit, you're on your own.  Good luck though, living overseas and doing drugs is much more fun than sittin at home!

Best dope I ever got in my misspent life was in Hue, S.Vietnam ... it's the old imperial capital....something about really good heroin is that after a while, you become less and less grateful it's around, and wish to fuck you could get away from it.  I don't know why the fuck I'm laughing while I write this, but it's damn sure true.  The only thing as bad as no dope, is lots of good dope....ha ha.  I don't know what the situation is there, now, tho...I've heard cambodia rocks, but, again, gotta be careful of cops and overdoses....
Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: taruth on April 15, 2012, 05:37 am
Thanks guys for all the input even though some of it seems contradictory. :)

At this point I am leaning towards Cambodia and Indonesia, both of which are common destinations for Aussie travelers.

Perhaps this thread has run its course as the last post is almost a couple of weeks old but does anyone have any information or insight into Mongolia? I ask because I have a close friend who has moved there (and been there for several years). Problem is he is not into drugs in any way so I almost feel cheap in asking him for information.

But, thanks to everyone who has contributed and if things end up as I would like perhaps I could pass on some of what I find to the SR community as it has given me such a lot during my time here.
Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: mdmamail on April 15, 2012, 05:45 am
Thailand there are opium dens galore with tourists in them. Seems police never go in there.
Just never, ever take some to go. If you're caught with drugs hefty jail sentence.

Indonesia you could get executed for doing drugs don't even think of going there. Same with Cambodia.

Canada full of heroin but it's not cheap, quality is excellent though.
Low risk if you're caught just as a user. Open air drug markets in Vancouver but dangerous if you don't know what you're doing.

Germany full of opiates too.

Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: dkmonk on April 15, 2012, 06:54 am
Any place in South America. It is the number one supplier of number 4 heroin to the U.S. now, although people think Afghanistan and Asian countries are, but in reality your good powder dope is coming from S.A.
Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: kiddo1999 on April 15, 2012, 07:26 am
Watch the documentary Flipping Out. It is about Israeli soldiers who are given money and often spend a couple of years in India just letting go, taking drugs etc. Very interesting.  The Indians put up with them because they need the money and the exsoldiers go there because living is cheap and so are the drugs.
Title: Re: What country would you move to for easy access to strong opiate drugs?
Post by: phubaiblues on April 16, 2012, 08:36 pm
Thailand there are opium dens galore with tourists in them. Seems police never go in there.
Just never, ever take some to go. If you're caught with drugs hefty jail sentence.

Indonesia you could get executed for doing drugs don't even think of going there. Same with Cambodia.

Canada full of heroin but it's not cheap, quality is excellent though.
Low risk if you're caught just as a user. Open air drug markets in Vancouver but dangerous if you don't know what you're doing.

Germany full of opiates too.

I agree on Canada, and Vancouver, particularly,  even had have Heroin Maintenance trials there, out of Insite...but any americans traveling there should be wary, believe me, if you have any felonies or even a DUI/DWI on your past, as they won't allow you in country and have *very* good database.  Most don't believe it, but I know guys in AA, who went up there for the International Convention they had back in 2005, and they didn't fill out the paperwork asking permission and they got nailed, also truckers have gotten turned away.

I know no one on here has any criminal past, but just fwiw.   ;D