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Title: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Pillar321 on April 14, 2013, 06:51 am
Hi I oredered herion and is now on the way. I have never done it so am wondering about dosage and so on. I only got 100mg so I dont have a lot but am planning on snorting it. What is a good dosage to snort? I am not one to be shy of taking more than the average new comer so let me know wht you think. Thx
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: ravgni on April 14, 2013, 06:59 am
Really depends if you've been doing other opiates or not (even have used them in the past) and quality of the heroin.  I probably would be shy about doing too much if I were you about this drug.  Its not like stimulants where there's a large gap between hospitalization and getting high. 

I should point out that I've never done heroin, but would plan 5 mg as a first dose (I weigh 135), then depending on how I feel, add more.   I know quite a lot of addicts though.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: motek on April 14, 2013, 07:03 am
Quarter of that should smash you.....10mgs for an 'opiate naive' person (who's never had them before) should be PLENTY  if it's good !!....

BE CAREFUL and  start slow maybe 10mgs at a time ...cut the amount in half and then half again....and have half that (12.5mgs) .. .

IF you dont notice nothing within 15mins, then have the 'other half  (i.e.12.5mgs

   Best of all is to have an 'unstoned/capable'  friend around (as a babysitter)    JUST IN CASE!  ;)

dont take any more for at least an hour, and see how you feel


I once shot about 150mgs of ketamine thinking it was coke!!!!  IF NOT for my friend beside me ....I have NO IDEA what would have happened in the next half hour ....plus I was at the "medical shooting gallery" in sydney where there are drs and nurses standing around  8)

Man!  I actually was thinking while it  HIT me in the first few seconds was ... "oh oh .... I think I'm going to die in a sec" .... funnily enough I didn't mind!  The visuals were amazing, I couldn't see for the first 15minutes for the hallucinations ...but I could hear my friend telling me I was ok .....TF for all  those factors!

I'd never had K before .... I learned what "the K hole" is in about 10 seconds!  ::)

Be careful bro ... take it slowly ...of all drugs heroin can vary in potency a LOT!    :o  And the dose/amount can just nicely stone one person, can kill another ... quickly! :o

IF you happen to take too much, your mate will HAVE TO give you mouth to mouth for a few minutes til you come around   (NO heart massage...people just stop breathing BUT their heart hasn't stopped!  and THEN call an ambulance IF you stop breathing again (while your mate MUST "rinse and repeat' the M2M ;D) 

Do some research on sites like Bluelight and DrugsForum for starters  ;)

Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Real_Drugs on April 14, 2013, 07:15 am
I wouldn't recommend doing a big line first, people don't realize the possible outcome, split it into 10 lines maybe then snort one line, wait half an hour-45 minutes and if you feel you need another line have one.

Have you messed with other opiates before like Oxycontin? if you have I recommend to try that first. 
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Pillar321 on April 14, 2013, 07:23 am
haha I wasnt at all concerned until the posts from you guys! Now im second guessing it all together. I have snorted oxycontin and morphine even shot it. Oxycontint was a while ago but I think I did 20mg pill in about a day snorting. Morphine was 100 mg in a day. Didnt really make me "high" but knew i was different as well as threw up from the morphione in the morning ha. Concerned about herion now maybe I should sell it!! :P
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: motek on April 14, 2013, 07:32 am
well you know the high ...so Just take it easy and you'll be good

Take good care

motek
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: tiotiof on April 14, 2013, 06:56 pm
Or just don't take this shit and flush it! I start like you few years ago and now still hooked on this shit! The worse choice of my life!
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: ilovelucyshow on April 14, 2013, 07:04 pm
I've done crap loads of morphine. Unfortunately it was all in a medical setting. But I still got high as shit from it. I once got a large morphine injection straight into a central line. They didn't inject it slowly either. Talk about a rush!

Take my advice man. Walk away. Fast! You don't wanna fuck with this shit 
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: lokiju on April 14, 2013, 10:31 pm
Usually, I'd go in with somebody else, so we'd both do it (keep everything clean, preferentily new, no 'used' cottons, etc.) together, but one would help the other tie off, or just watch. You'll know in a second of two how good it is, if the other guy says "oh my god' and drops out, better hide your stuff and get help fast. I could never live with myself if I didn't do everything I could to save somebody who has overdosed. And it's not hard either, they'll just give one of two things (might be same thing but different names) something called Narkan or something else. It works in just a few seconds, if you're strung out, you'll wake up in full withdrawl. Then you have to wait until the Narcan (or whatever name) wears off. The half life of the Narcan is much shorter than the heroin.
Anyway, there is no reason for somebody to die with a human partner (I don't classify the other person as human if he/they don't do everything possible to save you)
I've just slipped to the floor and been in exctacy and the other guy asked me if I was ok, and I said 'YEAH'. You can even go out and wake up later and have your pocket emptied (the humunoids figured you wouldn't need money where you were going anyway)
But I guess you'd just have to know (with scales or something) how much you're shooting to get in the ball park.
And I agree with the above posters that 'one is too many, and a thousand never enough'-IOW if you're going to get high for a couple or few days and not have a 'breather' in between, you'll get a habit. It's a real panically feeling, 'oh my god what do I do now? I don't have any money!' And you need to get on methadone or subutex unless you're tougher than I am and can kick it by yourself. I've always ONLY been able to kick it in jail, it's actually easier there because you know you are not going to be given anything (although I've heard in some places if you are 'ALREADY on methadone, you might be allowed to keep on taking it. It can vary from county to county in the US. It's better (at least to me) to have some decent pain killers and 'sleepers' (Vicodone and valium/xanax) and it's not too bad, and just getting off Vicodone isn't bad (just some sleepers needed)
It takes a while to get a habit the first time, and almost nothing to get a habit after you've been good and strung out, your body changes in some way. I'd just like to stick to Vicodone and Oxycodone, they're not too hard to kick.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: IamMulva on April 14, 2013, 10:38 pm
know that your first two to three times will be the best you will ever have.

after that its all about chasing. dont start it. most people cant stop the train once it leaves the station.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Atr3yu on April 14, 2013, 11:07 pm
be extremely patient and incrementally, starting with a very small amount, test trip each and every ordered batch especially if they come from different vendors, and don't be lost to the fact that it's beautiful but dangerous and many MANY many people aren't strong enough to handle its addictive properties, love you man
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: limitlesshorizon420 on April 14, 2013, 11:11 pm
You should know it's spelled heroin.  You should have a spotter, you know like a workout partner to keep an eye on you if things get bad.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: pollywaffle on April 14, 2013, 11:15 pm
As long as you respect this shit you should be OK. I've done loads of heroin and script opiates but never more than once or twice a week.

Otherwise you'll prolly lose at least a decade of your life.

Peace man.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: FLUFFH3AD on April 14, 2013, 11:27 pm
just don't ever put anything in your arm
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: NorthWoods on April 14, 2013, 11:54 pm
If you've never done it before don't start now.
Unlike many drugs that are unnecessarily villainized, heroin is no joke, I've seen the damage first hand.  I don't know many (any?) people who have done it and not become addicted. I don't know why you would want to risk it.
Don't do it. Sell it and make some money.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Real_Drugs on April 15, 2013, 12:54 am
I think you should take everyone's advice player.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: motek on April 15, 2013, 02:01 am
BUT .... IF you had READ his replies you would see he HAS HAD IT Before .... so please do your research folks before spouting off

I completely agree it's a bitch of a drug to stop once you get a habit .... BUT ...I'd   'prefer' to come off smack in a hurry rather than say ANY psychotropic (Effexor, Paxil, Vyvanse etc! OR methadone, buprenorhine (subutext) and especially long term amphetaimines......But that's just me

The only 'successful jukie's' I've ever known are "weekend users" at most ....(and that's over 35 years!!!)

Even IF you have all the money and drugs you can ever take .... heroin will not make you "happy' ...... occaisional use IS quite pleasant .... and IS possible

Much of a junkies 'habit' consists of getting the money to score, and then scoring, nodding, rinse and repeat....It  IS a very sad way to exist!

All the best dude, and good on ya for at least asking....that's smart

Take care 

motek
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: internalzen on April 15, 2013, 02:11 am
Smart move asking, shows your careful. As long as your not slamming it, you should be ok with a decent line and enjoy. We don't know your weight, your opie tolerance, etc. Check out erowid.org, they have more detailed story's that maybe you can relate to and get an idea of dose. If that does not put you where you want to be, drop another line. Be careful my friend, I have close friends who are on years of bupe and they were smart just like you.

Hi I oredered herion and is now on the way. I have never done it so am wondering about dosage and so on. I only got 100mg so I dont have a lot but am planning on snorting it. What is a good dosage to snort? I am not one to be shy of taking more than the average new comer so let me know wht you think. Thx
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: youngRmoney on April 15, 2013, 02:17 am
tolerance develops very quickly. you'll notice it soon
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Pillar321 on April 15, 2013, 04:57 am
Ya I used to be a junkie but with coke, shot it and smoked crack. I quit it all but have been an occasional user again and now just curious about Heroin. Plan is to get it this once, snort it and never try it again. I know I am strang cuse I have quit crack, coke, cigarettes and nearly every addiction there is, guess thats why I am being pretective of mysefl so I dont do anything too stupid and die. Jusr wasnt sure on doing etc and have overdosed onm meth before and that wasnt fun!
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: methodz on April 15, 2013, 05:16 am
If you're asking questions, then you're at least sensible. Start small, really small. Don't slam it.

Even if you have a past tolerance with other opiates, still START SMALL. I had a friend who took a few years off of opiates and slammed heroin and OD'd and died, from not a huge dose even. Many people here I'm sure have a story like that, but it's not a drug to take lightly.

IMO, if you are wanting opiates I would stick with pharms. They are at least regulated (but way more expensive).

You can either use it and presumably have a good time, or sell it and make a few extra bucks; totally up to you. But I wouldn't take anyone's words of caution here for granted.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: GodKiller on April 15, 2013, 05:34 am
Ya I used to be a junkie but with coke, shot it and smoked crack. I quit it all but have been an occasional user again and now just curious about Heroin. Plan is to get it this once, snort it and never try it again. I know I am strang cuse I have quit crack, coke, cigarettes and nearly every addiction there is, guess thats why I am being pretective of mysefl so I dont do anything too stupid and die. Jusr wasnt sure on doing etc and have overdosed onm meth before and that wasnt fun!

It sounds like you have some decent grey matter between your ears, and that's a good thing when it comes to drugs.

My first time with H was last week. I snorted 10mg and within 5 or so minutes I was feeling slightly warm and fuzzy. It was quite a nice feeling.

Although I have an 'addictive personality' (whatever the fuck that means) I have managed not to get addicted to anything, even an ice smoking habit that went on for a few months. I just got bored, the ice did nothing anymore and I just said to myself "this is sooooo pointess and a waste of money".

Not only that, friends, family and career are far too important to me to let ANY drug control my life, EVER.

After this H is gone, I'm still undecided if I'll buy more. I mean it's a nice feeling and all, but so is blowing your load all over your girlfriend.

I think addiction depends on so many factors that putting all those who try H (or use occasionally) in the "you're going to get addicted" group is just plain wrong.

Anyway, I'll shut up now. Good luck friend.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Real_Drugs on April 15, 2013, 08:20 am
Sometimes in life you have to choose, would you rather do some H or blow your load over your girl?
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: GodKiller on April 15, 2013, 11:32 am
Sometimes in life you have to choose, would you rather do some H or blow your load over your girl?

I can not believe that heroin can't be taken occasionally.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: motek on April 15, 2013, 11:40 am
Ya I used to be a junkie but with coke, shot it and smoked crack. I quit it all but have been an occasional user again and now just curious about Heroin. Plan is to get it this once, snort it and never try it again. I know I am strang cuse I have quit crack, coke, cigarettes and nearly every addiction there is, guess thats why I am being pretective of mysefl so I dont do anything too stupid and die. Jusr wasnt sure on doing etc and have overdosed onm meth before and that wasnt fun!

It sounds like you have some decent grey matter between your ears, and that's a good thing when it comes to drugs.

My first time with H was last week. I snorted 10mg and within 5 or so minutes I was feeling slightly warm and fuzzy. It was quite a nice feeling.

Although I have an 'addictive personality' (whatever the fuck that means) I have managed not to get addicted to anything, even an ice smoking habit that went on for a few months. I just got bored, the ice did nothing anymore and I just said to myself "this is sooooo pointess and a waste of money".

Not only that, friends, family and career are far too important to me to let ANY drug control my life, EVER.

After this H is gone, I'm still undecided if I'll buy more. I mean it's a nice feeling and all, but so is blowing your load all over your girlfriend.

I think addiction depends on so many factors that putting all those who try H (or use occasionally) in the "you're going to get addicted" group is just plain wrong.

Anyway, I'll shut up now. Good luck friend.


This is a very good honest post dude, welcome and +1 for keeping it real  8)

motek
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: GodKiller on April 15, 2013, 12:14 pm
Ya I used to be a junkie but with coke, shot it and smoked crack. I quit it all but have been an occasional user again and now just curious about Heroin. Plan is to get it this once, snort it and never try it again. I know I am strang cuse I have quit crack, coke, cigarettes and nearly every addiction there is, guess thats why I am being pretective of mysefl so I dont do anything too stupid and die. Jusr wasnt sure on doing etc and have overdosed onm meth before and that wasnt fun!

It sounds like you have some decent grey matter between your ears, and that's a good thing when it comes to drugs.

My first time with H was last week. I snorted 10mg and within 5 or so minutes I was feeling slightly warm and fuzzy. It was quite a nice feeling.

Although I have an 'addictive personality' (whatever the fuck that means) I have managed not to get addicted to anything, even an ice smoking habit that went on for a few months. I just got bored, the ice did nothing anymore and I just said to myself "this is sooooo pointess and a waste of money".

Not only that, friends, family and career are far too important to me to let ANY drug control my life, EVER.

After this H is gone, I'm still undecided if I'll buy more. I mean it's a nice feeling and all, but so is blowing your load all over your girlfriend.

I think addiction depends on so many factors that putting all those who try H (or use occasionally) in the "you're going to get addicted" group is just plain wrong.

Anyway, I'll shut up now. Good luck friend.


This is a very good honest post dude, welcome and +1 for keeping it real  8)

motek

Thank you sir for those kind words.  ;D
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: lokiju on April 16, 2013, 04:58 am
So dude, how did it turn out?
It took me 10 years doing the 'weekend warrior' thing, spending what I made during the week during the weekends. I was working in Cal bay area, and I had my connections in Fresno. Best shit I've ever done, heroin, coke, meth, whatever was in Fresno. So after a period of time I noticed that it took a couple of days for me to get in 'my groove' while working during the week. I'd be feeling a little 'down' the first couple of days. It got much worse later. I'd be coming in late Monday or sometimes I'd skip Monday and come in Tuesday. Sounds stupid, but it took me a long time to figure what was happening. It's not hard when you are 'chipping' to stop it, especially when 'geographically' you can't score for a few days. And of course the first time I gave up a job in the bay area and got a connection (even though not nearly as decent dope) I was 'surprised' when I woke up strung out, of course it had happened many times before, to a lesser extent. You can give up a lot of material property when you are under the influence of opiates. You rationalize it, 'I'lll make it back later'. You pawn stuff. Your start being more careful about money (except for the drug part of the equation)
Thing is, I think I really wasted a good amount of time of my life just struggling to get high on the weekends, and when I moved to a local connection (and no job) I got some serious convictions that follow me still. But I still love opiates. I stay with Vicodone and maybe oxy's, I can deal with 'kicking' those. Heroin, although by far the best rush, the best 'buzz' the best everything, also addicts you  the best. I think anybody who realizes that they are addicted the first  time goes through some serious (soul searching, or something) and there is kind of a masachistic type of relation there (at least for me) I kind of figured that it 'served me right' to be doing this stuff (although I had much earlier in my life come to the conclusion that the enjoyment of life was it's main purpose) After I got addicted for real, I didn't enjoy my life nearly as much anymore. Not only did I have a 'habit' that I had to take care off, I did all kinds of things that compromised my character (or what I thought of as my character) You'll say to yourself, yes, I may do that-but I'lll never do THAT. And then you do that. And it goes on. I guess if you were a novelist (William Burroughs) you gain a lot of insight, but it's not 'useful' insight, you see the worst in a lot of people (and yourself) The jail/prison experience is a subject all to itself (but of course is tied to substances that society judges so badly that they will put you in a CAGE for using it)
For a period of 48 months, I was OUTSIDE 13 months. I got two prison terms, and a year spent in county jail and anybody that looks at my record sees robberies (although I never robbed anyone), petty thefts (guilty as charged) burglury (well maybe second degree, with malice aforethought) and I tried to stick to things that only involved 'companies'. I thought that I was 'better' (and still do) for making my money and not ripping off my friends. But society doesn't care about that. They label you a fuck up, and from then on, you are stuck in jobs that don't require a background check. And I've noticed that the 'background' check has EXPANDED rather than happen less often.
But I'd still love to shoot up dope, I just don't want to go through the WHOLE experience anymore, the fun, the compromising of jobs and relationships that necessary making of money to stay 'well' and super decreased tolerance to any kind of crime (in Cal they have the 15 years to life sentence if you have two prior 'violent' felonies-which easily 'qualifies me')
But I'd love to be able to shoot up some dope!
Real early, one of my memories is that now I knew what I wanted to live life for-that rush. I liked cocaine and heroin, speedballs. I don't see how anybody couldn't.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: oubilette99 on April 16, 2013, 05:10 am
I am currently helping a friend of mine come off of a nasty H cycle. If you do become dependent on it you will have difficulty functioning here on SR. You will be tempted to scam. The only cure I know of that works is Ibogain and Iboga. Good fortune that both products are offered here as well. If you do decide to use H I would HIGHLY HIGHLY encourage you to acquire 10g of Iboga root bark. You can end the cycle without agony with one treatment and have fun while your doing it. I know Yeshua sells 10g Ibogain bark for $150 US. Good luck friend!
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: q7ckt7ha on April 16, 2013, 05:32 am
Hi I oredered herion and is now on the way. I have never done it so am wondering about dosage and so on. I only got 100mg so I dont have a lot but am planning on snorting it. What is a good dosage to snort? I am not one to be shy of taking more than the average new comer so let me know wht you think. Thx

DON'T GET STUNG BY THE BROWN HORNET.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Bensonn on April 16, 2013, 05:39 am
How about you just not do heroin? Pretty dangerous.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: bobbysnewshoes on April 16, 2013, 08:52 am
I am currently helping a friend of mine come off of a nasty H cycle. If you do become dependent on it you will have difficulty functioning here on SR. You will be tempted to scam. The only cure I know of that works is Ibogain and Iboga. Good fortune that both products are offered here as well. If you do decide to use H I would HIGHLY HIGHLY encourage you to acquire 10g of Iboga root bark. You can end the cycle without agony with one treatment and have fun while your doing it. I know Yeshua sells 10g Ibogain bark for $150 US. Good luck friend!

That's pretty drastic. I don't think the OP needs Iboga before he tries dope the first time....

It's another painkiller. A little stronger than what you've taken before, and with longer legs. try a quarter of the bag, wait half hour or so, and try some more until you get to where you want to be.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: brainfreeze on April 16, 2013, 08:59 am
Not to do it at all your plying with fire?. its highly addictive
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: hanjis on April 16, 2013, 10:12 am
I have .5g of afghan #3 for sale lol Wanna try this or what? ;)
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Pillar321 on April 17, 2013, 06:34 am
Hey guys thx for all the responses!still haven't tried as its still in the mail but will keep you updated. I've had a lot of mixed feedback but reckon I'll be alright to just go with this 100mg. After that just back to some alco n occasional coke!!
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: jokersmoker19901217 on April 17, 2013, 06:46 am
You can always do more so I would divide it into at least 10 bumps. It depends on quality and your tolerance but when I started I only needed 5-15mg to feel a decent nod and euphoria and 30mg knocked me out.

Also you should be careful to take your time, depending on what type of heroin you bought It can take a few minutes to hit you and a few more to kick in full.

In my experience #3takes longer to absorb and hit you then #4 with is in the easier to absorb salt form.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: jokersmoker19901217 on April 17, 2013, 06:59 am
To summarize, start small and give it time to hit you. #3 witch is normally tan to light brown to brown can take like 15 mins for some ppl. #4 normally white or off white still takes time but I find it normally like 5 maybe 10 minutes.
if your not sure that your getting high look in the mirror, your pupils will start to turn to pins and you'll notice a cool or warm pleasure wash over you.
it's awesome and everyone knows that but it's also evil man, I know on one likes people to preach but Iv been in more shit for lady h then anything else
Just be smart man and let once be enough
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: seatturtle on April 17, 2013, 07:03 am
eh... be careful. i'm in my mid-twenties and i've known 5 people in my age group who've died from OD, and another 3 who have ruined their lives completely. they've kicked for just a year on avg and say its all they think about. not saying ppl dont use it responsibly, but its a slippery slope
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: ogaitnas cinimod on April 17, 2013, 07:18 am
what type h did u order?
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: motek on April 17, 2013, 06:17 pm
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That's pretty drastic. I don't think the OP needs Iboga before he tries dope the first time....

 ;D ;D ;D Haha I literally laughed out loud for that comment mr newshoes .... here have your first +1, well deserved 8)
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: DoktaLockeEyeQue on April 17, 2013, 06:45 pm

Quarter of that should smash you.....10mgs for an 'opiate naive' person (who's never had them before) should be PLENTY  if it's good !!....

BE CAREFUL and  start slow maybe 10mgs at a time ...cut the amount in half and then half again....and have half that (12.5mgs) .. .

IF you dont notice nothing within 15mins, then have the 'other half  (i.e.12.5mgs

   Best of all is to have an 'unstoned/capable'  friend around (as a babysitter)    JUST IN CASE!  ;)

dont take any more for at least an hour, and see how you feel


I once shot about 150mgs of ketamine thinking it was coke!!!!  IF NOT for my friend beside me ....I have NO IDEA what would have happened in the next half hour ....plus I was at the "medical shooting gallery" in sydney where there are drs and nurses standing around  8)

Man!  I actually was thinking while it  HIT me in the first few seconds was ... "oh oh .... I think I'm going to die in a sec" .... funnily enough I didn't mind!  The visuals were amazing, I couldn't see for the first 15minutes for the hallucinations ...but I could hear my friend telling me I was ok .....TF for all  those factors!

I'd never had K before .... I learned what "the K hole" is in about 10 seconds!  ::)

Be careful bro ... take it slowly ...of all drugs heroin can vary in potency a LOT!    :o  And the dose/amount can just nicely stone one person, can kill another ... quickly! :o

IF you happen to take too much, your mate will HAVE TO give you mouth to mouth for a few minutes til you come around   (NO heart massage...people just stop breathing BUT their heart hasn't stopped!  and THEN call an ambulance IF you stop breathing again (while your mate MUST "rinse and repeat' the M2M ;D) 

Do some research on sites like Bluelight and DrugsForum for starters  ;)

Well stated Motek +1 indeed.  Everything you advise is prudent. 
As for the "first-time" user, Im not here to judge.. just be careful.  Educate yourself :)

Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Tellemetree on April 17, 2013, 07:15 pm
Can't help but wonder how much different my last 10 years might have been if I made a similar thread and someone had tried talking me out of playing with H back then. Not all bad, but definitely would have been different. lol.

Inb4 Any such forum existed.

In my experience first time playing with it tends to go two ways, you throw up, think "this is nowhere near as good as coke" and never touch it again. Or you come down and immediately think "how long is safely long enough to wait before I can do this again" (:

GL bro.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: DoktaLockeEyeQue on April 17, 2013, 07:40 pm
Can't help but wonder how much different my last 10 years might have been if I made a similar thread and someone had tried talking me out of playing with H back then. Not all bad, but definitely would have been different. lol.

Inb4 Any such forum existed.

In my experience first time playing with it tends to go two ways, you throw up, think "this is nowhere near as good as coke" and never touch it again. Or you come down and immediately think "how long is safely long enough to wait before I can do this again" (:

GL bro.

Again, well stated.  Some things you play with might end up playing a game you do not want to play.....
+1 for your reply:  Beneficial reply from a personal viewpoint, Tellemetree :)
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: kyotosong on April 17, 2013, 07:56 pm
to the OP... how'd it go?

Quarter of that should smash you.....10mgs for an 'opiate naive' person (who's never had them before) should be PLENTY  if it's good !!....

BE CAREFUL and  start slow maybe 10mgs at a time ...cut the amount in half and then half again....and have half that (12.5mgs) .. .

IF you dont notice nothing within 15mins, then have the 'other half  (i.e.12.5mgs

   Best of all is to have an 'unstoned/capable'  friend around (as a babysitter)    JUST IN CASE!  ;)

dont take any more for at least an hour, and see how you feel


I once shot about 150mgs of ketamine thinking it was coke!!!!  IF NOT for my friend beside me ....I have NO IDEA what would have happened in the next half hour ....plus I was at the "medical shooting gallery" in sydney where there are drs and nurses standing around  8)

Man!  I actually was thinking while it  HIT me in the first few seconds was ... "oh oh .... I think I'm going to die in a sec" .... funnily enough I didn't mind!  The visuals were amazing, I couldn't see for the first 15minutes for the hallucinations ...but I could hear my friend telling me I was ok .....TF for all  those factors!

I'd never had K before .... I learned what "the K hole" is in about 10 seconds!  ::)

Be careful bro ... take it slowly ...of all drugs heroin can vary in potency a LOT!    :o  And the dose/amount can just nicely stone one person, can kill another ... quickly! :o

IF you happen to take too much, your mate will HAVE TO give you mouth to mouth for a few minutes til you come around   (NO heart massage...people just stop breathing BUT their heart hasn't stopped!  and THEN call an ambulance IF you stop breathing again (while your mate MUST "rinse and repeat' the M2M ;D) 

Do some research on sites like Bluelight and DrugsForum for starters  ;)

this is, by far, the most helpful post i have ever seen! i couldn't have said anything better myself. +1 for motek, when that option becomes available to me.


Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: DoktaLockeEyeQue on April 17, 2013, 08:20 pm
to the OP... how'd it go?

Quarter of that should smash you.....10mgs for an 'opiate naive' person (who's never had them before) should be PLENTY  if it's good !!....

BE CAREFUL and  start slow maybe 10mgs at a time ...cut the amount in half and then half again....and have half that (12.5mgs) .. .

IF you dont notice nothing within 15mins, then have the 'other half  (i.e.12.5mgs

   Best of all is to have an 'unstoned/capable'  friend around (as a babysitter)    JUST IN CASE!  ;)

dont take any more for at least an hour, and see how you feel


I once shot about 150mgs of ketamine thinking it was coke!!!!  IF NOT for my friend beside me ....I have NO IDEA what would have happened in the next half hour ....plus I was at the "medical shooting gallery" in sydney where there are drs and nurses standing around  8)

Man!  I actually was thinking while it  HIT me in the first few seconds was ... "oh oh .... I think I'm going to die in a sec" .... funnily enough I didn't mind!  The visuals were amazing, I couldn't see for the first 15minutes for the hallucinations ...but I could hear my friend telling me I was ok .....TF for all  those factors!

I'd never had K before .... I learned what "the K hole" is in about 10 seconds!  ::)

Be careful bro ... take it slowly ...of all drugs heroin can vary in potency a LOT!    :o  And the dose/amount can just nicely stone one person, can kill another ... quickly! :o

IF you happen to take too much, your mate will HAVE TO give you mouth to mouth for a few minutes til you come around   (NO heart massage...people just stop breathing BUT their heart hasn't stopped!  and THEN call an ambulance IF you stop breathing again (while your mate MUST "rinse and repeat' the M2M ;D) 

Do some research on sites like Bluelight and DrugsForum for starters  ;)

this is, by far, the most helpful post i have ever seen! i couldn't have said anything better myself. +1 for motek, when that option becomes available to me.

Agreed Kyotosong, +1 I thought so as well.  So to the OP....? What say ye? ;)
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: MeowFlakes on April 17, 2013, 08:41 pm
I remember my first time... it was magical. I threw up rainbows and felt like a million dollars
once you figure out your dose, it becomes easier to manager (or harder)
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Tellemetree on April 17, 2013, 09:01 pm
Best we don't all fawn over how great our first time was, since fact is your always trying to get back there and never can.

Its also not gonna exactly give a realistic perspective of a few hours upside vs potential rest of your life of down side etc etc

I sound like some counselor I was told I should but always refused to see. lol
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: DoktaLockeEyeQue on April 17, 2013, 10:15 pm
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That's pretty drastic. I don't think the OP needs Iboga before he tries dope the first time....


 ;D ;D ;D Haha I literally laughed out loud for that comment mr newshoes .... here have your first +1, well deserved 8)

I laughed out louder so I guess it deserves another well-deserved +1 ...  obviously  8) x 2
In other news:

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Hey guys thx for all the responses!still haven't tried as its still in the mail but will keep you updated. I've had a lot of mixed feedback but reckon I'll be alright to just go with this 100mg. After that just back to some alco n occasional coke!!


******Bro make sure u listen to what motek and others have said:  have someone who cares about you waking up tomorrow there with you, k? And take it slowwwww-goooo it-like, may not look like a punch might be too much of one as well.... Be safe man.  Not your parent lol nor pointing fingers....just make sure you know all you can about the cookie before eating it, k? ;) ******
-DLIQ
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Pillar321 on April 19, 2013, 04:28 pm
Update: product arrived and started slow 12.5mg. Didn't do much so took more. Eventually did about 40mg of what was meant it be 60% or more and come in a rock. Was nice for coming down on coke. Helped me wanna sleep and give up on doing drugs. Won't buy heroin again but now I know what it is.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Disco-stu123 on April 19, 2013, 04:31 pm
I would recommend you go with the slim line approach.

Slim line=gradually great time.

Big line= wake up 9 hours later covered in dribble and someone else's urine.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: motek on April 20, 2013, 10:17 am
thanx doc...and tellemetree and others make MUCH sense ..I can 'relate'  BUT  the OP says 'he's NOT opie naive'  soooo,  the thought's still aprecited and +1's to you ALL

love motek
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: jda6130 on April 20, 2013, 11:02 am
Update: ....Won't buy heroin again but now I know what it is.


Good for you! A very wise choice!
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: motek on April 20, 2013, 11:17 am
he's right, It IS a Very Good Choice ...motek didn't make it and had regrets ....
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Fat_Speedy_Guy on April 20, 2013, 12:06 pm
As you'd assume you'll probably enjoy the experience, and likely repeat. I'd suggest with Heroin, and Opiates in general limit the amount you order over a set period of time so you can't simply use willpower only as a moderator, it's one drug where despite being someone who considers himself a take it or leave it kind of person despite availability, I know in the case of H if I had an available stock every day, I could NOT resist... it would not end well for me. Any drug can get out of hand of course and it's a personal thing, we aren't the same people post usage in terms of brain chemistry so predicting your own behavior and potential for addiction can be a guessing game, but most people can manage with most recreational drugs I think, Heroin is different with a pull quite unlike any other - it's just too fucking good.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Phineas Finn on April 20, 2013, 01:13 pm
Thank you all for this thread. After having walked through the SR candy store, I'd considered buying a small quantity of heroin "just to see." All of your comments have made me realize that this is something I should just not do.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: internalzen on April 20, 2013, 02:14 pm
So dude, how did it turn out?
It took me 10 years doing the 'weekend warrior' thing, spending what I made during the week during the weekends. I was working in Cal bay area, and I had my connections in Fresno. Best shit I've ever done, heroin, coke, meth, whatever was in Fresno. So after a period of time I noticed that it took a couple of days for me to get in 'my groove' while working during the week. I'd be feeling a little 'down' the first couple of days. It got much worse later. I'd be coming in late Monday or sometimes I'd skip Monday and come in Tuesday. Sounds stupid, but it took me a long time to figure what was happening. It's not hard when you are 'chipping' to stop it, especially when 'geographically' you can't score for a few days. And of course the first time I gave up a job in the bay area and got a connection (even though not nearly as decent dope) I was 'surprised' when I woke up strung out, of course it had happened many times before, to a lesser extent. You can give up a lot of material property when you are under the influence of opiates. You rationalize it, 'I'lll make it back later'. You pawn stuff. Your start being more careful about money (except for the drug part of the equation)
Thing is, I think I really wasted a good amount of time of my life just struggling to get high on the weekends, and when I moved to a local connection (and no job) I got some serious convictions that follow me still. But I still love opiates. I stay with Vicodone and maybe oxy's, I can deal with 'kicking' those. Heroin, although by far the best rush, the best 'buzz' the best everything, also addicts you  the best. I think anybody who realizes that they are addicted the first  time goes through some serious (soul searching, or something) and there is kind of a masachistic type of relation there (at least for me) I kind of figured that it 'served me right' to be doing this stuff (although I had much earlier in my life come to the conclusion that the enjoyment of life was it's main purpose) After I got addicted for real, I didn't enjoy my life nearly as much anymore. Not only did I have a 'habit' that I had to take care off, I did all kinds of things that compromised my character (or what I thought of as my character) You'll say to yourself, yes, I may do that-but I'lll never do THAT. And then you do that. And it goes on. I guess if you were a novelist (William Burroughs) you gain a lot of insight, but it's not 'useful' insight, you see the worst in a lot of people (and yourself) The jail/prison experience is a subject all to itself (but of course is tied to substances that society judges so badly that they will put you in a CAGE for using it)
For a period of 48 months, I was OUTSIDE 13 months. I got two prison terms, and a year spent in county jail and anybody that looks at my record sees robberies (although I never robbed anyone), petty thefts (guilty as charged) burglury (well maybe second degree, with malice aforethought) and I tried to stick to things that only involved 'companies'. I thought that I was 'better' (and still do) for making my money and not ripping off my friends. But society doesn't care about that. They label you a fuck up, and from then on, you are stuck in jobs that don't require a background check. And I've noticed that the 'background' check has EXPANDED rather than happen less often.
But I'd still love to shoot up dope, I just don't want to go through the WHOLE experience anymore, the fun, the compromising of jobs and relationships that necessary making of money to stay 'well' and super decreased tolerance to any kind of crime (in Cal they have the 15 years to life sentence if you have two prior 'violent' felonies-which easily 'qualifies me')
But I'd love to be able to shoot up some dope!
Real early, one of my memories is that now I knew what I wanted to live life for-that rush. I liked cocaine and heroin, speedballs. I don't see how anybody couldn't.

What lokiju wrote is gospel, the pattern he describes is exactly how it happens. Ask any junkie and they will probably have some variation, no one starts out and says, man I can't wait to become a junkie, what a great life! I sure hope when I'm going through yet another wd in a filthy cell the other inmates will pull my hair back while I puke. Or more insidious, during the years of being straight and doing the right thing you can ALMOST feel that feeling of perfection that H brings. And it eats at you. LOL, I still get a woody from smelling scotch tape. Listen, your an adult (well I hope) and maybe you can be cool with it, maybe your the one who can handle it. Start kinda with a low dose, try not to move up too fast and enjoy it now, its the best it will be.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: motek on April 21, 2013, 12:30 am
Nice post  internalzen  +1 bro
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: DoktaLockeEyeQue on April 23, 2013, 09:46 am
Thank you all for this thread. After having walked through the SR candy store, I'd considered buying a small quantity of heroin "just to see." All of your comments have made me realize that this is something I should just not do.

+1 PF well-stated :)

Not for the outcome, which I do applaud you for, but for the thought-process. :)  To all their own, and by no means am I judging anyone's choices, because you are yourself, and if you are not harming in any fashion another, is there harm? Please, however, ascertain as much knowledge and education about anything prior to making any choice as a hasty decision may have long term repercussions. Ironically, our personal choices and freedoms lessen or are restricted (being nice STOLEN) each day by governing people who Legislate "Happy" meals into their children's stomach 4 times a week because they are busy "trying" to save "you from yourself." One would think they would be busy representing the interests of their own children and familiy instead.... for which I assume they do care about.   ??? 
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: motek on April 23, 2013, 11:58 am
equally well put Doc  +1 to you too
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: BigNews on April 23, 2013, 12:37 pm
Like a lot of people stated, start of with a small dosage. You can ALWAYS do more, not the other way around. Be super clean during every step. Use sterilized water, clean syringe, fresh cotton, sanitary place to do it, clean habits preparing the shot, etc. The bullet point of this is to do everything CLEAN & SAFE. None of this applies if you're snorting. Just don't snort off a toilet seat or public sink, for christ's sake.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: westb0xes on April 24, 2013, 05:26 am
i dont like the high from heroin at all  ;D  thank god ^^
but i like uppers ^^
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: SpotSupply on April 24, 2013, 06:23 am
Don't do it!
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: westb0xes on April 24, 2013, 07:13 am
you will puke a lot haha and just lay arround u really should try very less at start maybe then u have more lucky feelings :D no drug for me  :) 
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: Tellemetree on April 24, 2013, 12:20 pm
Don't do it!

Pretty much. For reasons that you probably already know anyway so no point going into it.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: songsfromthewood on April 24, 2013, 05:05 pm
Compare it to doing a deal with the devil, he gives you smack and you give him your soul!
If you get past the itching and spewing stage your fucked imo.
Its a great feeling in the early stages but trust me that don't last long, play with the devil and you will get burnt badly!
Its no fucking game man.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: bazarov4747 on April 24, 2013, 05:19 pm
Honestly you should just sell the H. It's incredibly addicting. Not sure if you've ever watched requim for a dream but in a nutshell that's exactly what will happen if you get hooked on it.
Title: Re: First time doing Herion! What should I know??!
Post by: jondope616 on April 24, 2013, 05:32 pm
heroin is a beautiful monster
its the reason i am here
i say do it and don't do it at the same time lol

also if your willing for feel like shit for 50 percent of your time with the beast it's not so bad
i got between feeling awesome and horrid every week but eh its kinda worth it ....