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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: alpine777 on February 21, 2012, 10:16 pm

Title: connecting to silk road question
Post by: alpine777 on February 21, 2012, 10:16 pm
hi i am just wondering whats the best way to connect to silk road i have heard from many people that using vpns with tor make it less secure. so if i get a powerful WiFi antenna and connect to a public wifi spot along way away is this a good thing or not? i really dont want to have to leave home every time i want to go on silk road but i want to secure the way i connect as much as possible. what are your thoughts on vpns vps ssh. and if you recommend any of these or something else could you please point me in the right direction in how to get it done. thanks
Title: Re: connecting to silk road question
Post by: Spedly on February 21, 2012, 11:07 pm
I don't see how running tor inside a vpn would be less secure. In fact, I'd suggest it's more secure. If your IP address is ever detected it would be the vpn address.
Title: Re: connecting to silk road question
Post by: Laughing Man on February 21, 2012, 11:13 pm
I don't see how running tor inside a vpn would be less secure. In fact, I'd suggest it's more secure. If your IP address is ever detected it would be the vpn address.
And the VPN will keep logs of your IP. It's much better to access from an IP that is in no way connected to you.
Title: Re: connecting to silk road question
Post by: Spedly on February 21, 2012, 11:36 pm
I don't see how running tor inside a vpn would be less secure. In fact, I'd suggest it's more secure. If your IP address is ever detected it would be the vpn address.
And the VPN will keep logs of your IP. It's much better to access from an IP that is in no way connected to you.

Not if you use the right vpn service. anonine.com and ipredator.se immediately come to mind. Both are located in Sweden which has very strict laws for revealing personal information. For more info check out the Swedish Electronic Communications Act 2003:389
Title: Re: connecting to silk road question
Post by: Laughing Man on February 21, 2012, 11:40 pm
I don't see how running tor inside a vpn would be less secure. In fact, I'd suggest it's more secure. If your IP address is ever detected it would be the vpn address.
And the VPN will keep logs of your IP. It's much better to access from an IP that is in no way connected to you.

Not if you use the right vpn service. anonine.com and ipredator.se immediately come to mind...
They say they don't, but if they do a court may force them to turn over their logs whether or not they want to.
Title: Re: connecting to silk road question
Post by: Spedly on February 21, 2012, 11:49 pm
I don't see how running tor inside a vpn would be less secure. In fact, I'd suggest it's more secure. If your IP address is ever detected it would be the vpn address.
And the VPN will keep logs of your IP. It's much better to access from an IP that is in no way connected to you.

Not if you use the right vpn service. anonine.com and ipredator.se immediately come to mind...
They say they don't, but if they do a court may force them to turn over their logs whether or not they want to.

Yes, but in Sweden it must be Swedish authorities petitioning a Swedish court where the prosecution is looking for a two-year minimum sentence in a Swedish jail.
Title: Re: connecting to silk road question
Post by: Oldtoker on February 22, 2012, 08:37 am
As a buyer, I think your being overly concerned.  Just run your system from a USB Flash/Thumb drive.   Use the USB device for booting into the system, use TOR/Silk road, then reboot the system after hiding the thumb drive. 
Title: Re: connecting to silk road question
Post by: fyodor on February 22, 2012, 09:48 pm
The general rule is that the more hops on the network, the more attack points. With that said, obviously an open wifi network that you have no connection to is best. (Also out of curiosity, what antenna are you using and what's the pre-amp?) However if anyone is on that network sniffing packets, they might be able to take over your SR account. If I saw this on a network I was sniffing, I might even go as for to see if your bitcoins are on your system and if they're plain text, you know, for teh lulz...

A VPN ensures end-to-end encryption (ssl is a joke). So setting up a VPN, then connecting to an "open" wifi, then to TOR would be best. But then you have to pay this VPN anonymously as well.
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Title: Re: connecting to silk road question
Post by: aciddeath on February 23, 2012, 01:01 am
fyodor, you're not acutally fyodor are you?!
We should talk if you are :)

Ok folks, use your creativity a little bit here
If you want to utilize VPN...on an open wifi connect to a  friend via FREE open source VPN software in another location while HE is connected to an open wifi network. Free temporary VPN! You don't even have to pay for a service, you just need an endpoint to connect to.
Then tunnel your tor session through ssh >= ) Can you tunnel tor through ssh?