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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Tryptamine on July 29, 2012, 03:54 pm
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I design natural & orthomolecular nutritional supplements to improve brain health.
One of my products is ChillPill, a safe, healthy sedative and sleep aid that works mainly by providing your brain with the natural sleep-promoting factors that it normally lacks.
I would like to test the effectiveness of my ChillPills at inducing sleep after methamphetamine use, or at preventing stimulant-induced excitotoxicity and metabolic depression.
I do not take neurotoxic stimulants, and I do not personally know anyone who does.
Therefore, I am giving out 3 free ChillPills (each) to 5 meth users, in return for a comprehensive review of your experiences.
You qualify for the trial if you plan to take meth within the next couple of weeks, have over 200 posts, have been here for at least 2 months, and are capable of writing a coherent review.
Note that this is not an endorsement of methamphetamine use, which is a bad idea, especially if you're malnourished (which you all are).
ChillPill item listing: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/4dc5679867
Go!
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I like the idea of this, and want to see this near the top of the forums. So here is a bump! I am going to place an order for these or some of Tryptamines other products in the near future.
I am not eligible, but I want to see the turnout and I expect good results.
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Sound interesting to me also. I just don't have the 200 post. I'll still check it out.
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Also sounds interesting to me, I will order some when I get some bitcoin in my account.
How would you recommend taking the chillpills after using meth, currently to come down after a bit of a binge, I just have a small dose of meth, then go out for 5-6 hours, so there is no more temptation, then I have a decent meal and get as much sleep as I can (generally about 6 hours, even after 3-4 days with no sleep).
Generally thats it but if I am feeling really shit, I will have another small dose and that is it.
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I've never taken methamphetamine, but I'd suggest taking the ChillPill about an hour before you'd like to sleep, once you're already coming down. Apart from calming excess brain activity it will allow you to sleep for longer than you normally do.
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That sounds convincing. I should be getting some ice soon. Are you still doing the samples?
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I am, haven't had any takers, I'm looking for established members whose reviews would be highly regarded. If I don't find anyone today I'll lower my standards.
I'm also selling 5 for $15.51 and 24 for $55.55.
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I don't use Meth, but I am a heavy user of Methylone, which has many of the same effects as it relates to causing sleep issues. I'd be able to give you a pretty good review, as I also use Ritalin and Adderall. For sleep aids, I'd tried benzodiazepines, various antihistamines, melatonin, and some herbal supplements.
I have over 200 posts, as well as an extensive purchase history on SR
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Hm, close enough. Buy my 'custom orders' listing and mention this thread and your forum username.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/38a69cf3c6
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I'll try it.
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Sent out both samples, 3 slots left.
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@Tryptamine: I'm very interested in these results. Your pills interest me, but I've been afraid to try them because I'm afraid they won't work.
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They've worked for everyone who's tried them and written a review; this trial is to see how they stack up against the ultimate sleep-inhibitor, methamphetamine, the 'anti-ChillPill' as it were.
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Actually I had a stash of your chill pills when I was using meth, it never worked. I've tried in upwards of 3 pills, with meth use prior at around 12PM each day. I always stay up that night, even after massive amounts of weed concentrates. But that's just me. The only thing that knocks me out after using meth during the day is 4mg of xanax or stay the fuck up cleaning.
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Actually I had a stash of your chill pills when I was using meth, it never worked. I've tried in upwards of 3 pills, with meth use prior at around 12PM each day. I always stay up that night, even after massive amounts of weed concentrates. But that's just me. The only thing that knocks me out after using meth during the day is 4mg of xanax or stay the fuck up cleaning.
Do you remember when that was? I've changed the formula substantially in the 3.x versions; added Trimethylglycine and magensium glycinate, Damina, Holy Basil, Blue Vervain, Wild Lettuce, and Passion Flower extracts, NooPept, and increased the amount of picamilon. Also took out 5-HTP, which is bad for you, and vitamin C, which took up valuable capsule space. If you bought yours over, say, 2 months ago, you probably got a 2.x, or even a 1.x if you got it a while ago.
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Actually I had a stash of your chill pills when I was using meth, it never worked. I've tried in upwards of 3 pills, with meth use prior at around 12PM each day. I always stay up that night, even after massive amounts of weed concentrates. But that's just me. The only thing that knocks me out after using meth during the day is 4mg of xanax or stay the fuck up cleaning.
Do you remember when that was? I've changed the formula substantially in the 3.x versions; added Trimethylglycine and magensium glycinate, Damina, Holy Basil, Blue Vervain, Wild Lettuce, and Passion Flower extracts, NooPept, and increased the amount of picamilon. Also took out 5-HTP, which is bad for you, and vitamin C, which took up valuable capsule space. If you bought yours over, say, 2 months ago, you probably got a 2.x, or even a 1.x if you got it a while ago.
Back at the last 2 weeks of April. What a 2 weeks it was. 8) The ChillPills never really altered any perceivable aspect of my consciousness, you suggested I take melatonin but I don't feel anything from that either so I just put all those pills as placebo. The product i'm most satisfied with is your MindFoods, great for MDMA users and cutting hangovers. Maybe I just require more 'man-made' chemicals to knock me out lol
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Actually I had a stash of your chill pills when I was using meth, it never worked. I've tried in upwards of 3 pills, with meth use prior at around 12PM each day. I always stay up that night, even after massive amounts of weed concentrates. But that's just me. The only thing that knocks me out after using meth during the day is 4mg of xanax or stay the fuck up cleaning.
Do you remember when that was? I've changed the formula substantially in the 3.x versions; added Trimethylglycine and magensium glycinate, Damina, Holy Basil, Blue Vervain, Wild Lettuce, and Passion Flower extracts, NooPept, and increased the amount of picamilon. Also took out 5-HTP, which is bad for you, and vitamin C, which took up valuable capsule space. If you bought yours over, say, 2 months ago, you probably got a 2.x, or even a 1.x if you got it a while ago.
Back at the last 2 weeks of April. What a 2 weeks it was. 8) The ChillPills never really altered any perceivable aspect of my consciousness, you suggested I take melatonin but I don't feel anything from that either so I just put all those pills as placebo. The product i'm most satisfied with is your MindFoods, great for MDMA users and cutting hangovers. Maybe I just require more 'man-made' chemicals to knock me out lol
You got the old version. Buy my (free) 'Custom Orders' listing, I'll send you a few of the new ones to try.
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Fucking solid. Why the hell not? Sleep is one of my biggest issue on drug use days as my two favorite drugs are Cocaine and Psychedelics. If these will work as satisfied as the MindFoods I'll buy a year's prescription worth 8) Thanks Trypt!
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Id love to write a report for you. Im a recreational meth user and fine the biggest downside is lack of sleep, if there is something other than benzos , i would be very interested indeed.
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Why are you saying 5-HTP is bad?
Just curious..
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sent you a PM Tryptamine. looking forward to the opportunity. have always juggled the concept of giving you a try, very interesting products!
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StickAFinger and SpiceTrader, go ahead and buy my custom orders listing. One more left!
Why are you saying 5-HTP is bad?
Just curious..
I'll tell you what I told the journalist from RollingStone:
5-Hydroxy Tryptophan is an amino acid which is the direct precursor (by decarboxylation) to 5-Hydroxy Tryptamine, commonly called Serotonin. Serotonin was first discovered in blood platelets, which release it in response to injury. It constricts blood vessels (hence it's name, sero-tonin), promotes formation of clots, and induces inflammation, similar to the related chemical histamine. It suppresses mitochondrial respiration, promoting inefficient glycolysis and inhibiting energy production. In neurons, it synergizes with glutamate and causes the influx of calcium and a decrease in ATP levels, which may promote cell death. It has been implicated in the fatigue caused by intense exercise, which can be prevented using branch-chain amino acids, which compete with serotonin for entry to cells. Serotonin is high in autism, alzheimer's, multiple sclerosis, schizophrenia, and other neurological dysfunctions. Some drugs that inhibit platelet serotonin uptake are presently sold as 'antidepressants', the implication being that low serotonin levels cause depression, or that serotonin corresponds to happiness. This is disingenuous. Several studies have actually correlated elevated serum serotonin levels with depression. Serotonin, released during stress, causes damage to the hippocampus and inhibits memory formation (and cognition in general). The popular theory of serotonin's behavioral effects is that it constricts the range of an organism's responses to stimuli, similar to its effects on blood vessels. On the other hand, drugs that replace or inhibit serotonin, such as LSD and MDMA, can prevent fatigue and vastly expand the range of behavior. I believe that serotonin has the opposite effects than those that are typically ascribed to it, and 5-HTP supplementation is unnecessary and probably deleterious in most cases.
[Serotonin may be neurotoxic] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1684254
[Serum serotonin levels positively correlate with depression] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17380868
[5-HTP increases levels of cortisol, a stress hormone] http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=493312
[Promotes lipid and cholesterol peroxidation] http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/002191509190254Z
[Toxic to liver and promotes aortic plaque] http://www.uib.no/dyreavd/fish2012/Ritskes-hoitinga Food and Chemical Toxicology.pdf
[Increases mitochondrial free radical production] http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.mito.2010.07.014,
[Suppresses carbohydrate oxidation] http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=910380
[Downregulates expression of Pyruvate Dehydrogenase in neurons; inhibits brain energy production] https://www-jstage-jst-go-jp/article/bbb/69/2/69_2_301/_article
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Were you not selling 5-HTP at some point tryptamine? ???
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Were you not selling 5-HTP at some point tryptamine? ???
The early versions of my supplements contained small amounts of 5-HTP. I have since changed my views and no longer use it in any of my products. I figure warning people about its dangers is the least I can do after having promoted its consumption (although I did use very small amounts, about 1/10 of one 5-HTP pill, so I doubt anyone was affected too adversely).
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You working on any new pills in the future? Would love to know what future projects lie in that head of yours. ;D
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+1 For admitting you were wrong
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You working on any new pills in the future? Would love to know what future projects lie in that head of yours. ;D
Probably an herbal/orthomolecular stimulant. I'll call them StimCaps.
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Tryptamine,
i PM'ed you my SR username, as it is different from this one
please pm me back when its all good to go!
thanks again! and REALLY looking forward to trying this and writing a nice review out for you!
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