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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: sniper123 on July 07, 2012, 10:34 pm

Title: Cooking some meth. Ephedrine or Pseudoephedrine?
Post by: sniper123 on July 07, 2012, 10:34 pm
I was curious. What is better, has higher yields, and product? To all the meth vendors, I'm only cooking for personal use. I will never vend on the silk road. So don't worry to chime in. I'm a user not a dealer. :)

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Title: Re: Cooking some meth. Ephedrine or Pseudoephedrine?
Post by: minorthreat71 on July 07, 2012, 10:46 pm
I don't have an answer, nor do I have anything nice to say, but I gave you something.
Title: Re: Cooking some meth. Ephedrine or Pseudoephedrine?
Post by: gambino on July 07, 2012, 11:37 pm
I was curious. What is better, has higher yields, and product? To all the meth vendors, I'm only cooking for personal use. I will never vend on the silk road. So don't worry to chime in. I'm a user not a dealer. :)

If you don't have anything nice to say, don't reply.

Chemically it does not matter.  Use whatever you can get cheapest/easiest.  The chiral center in question gets reduced and is no longer chiral in meth.  You end up with the same product, d-meth.  Yields should also be the same.
Title: Re: Cooking some meth. Ephedrine or Pseudoephedrine?
Post by: sniper123 on July 08, 2012, 02:57 am
I was curious. What is better, has higher yields, and product? To all the meth vendors, I'm only cooking for personal use. I will never vend on the silk road. So don't worry to chime in. I'm a user not a dealer. :)

If you don't have anything nice to say, don't reply.

Chemically it does not matter.  Use whatever you can get cheapest/easiest.  The chiral center in question gets reduced and is no longer chiral in meth.  You end up with the same product, d-meth.  Yields should also be the same.
Thank you. Karma +1.

Anyone have a better method than the shake n bake? I mean it's getting me by, but there's nothing like smoking shards.
Title: Re: Cooking some meth. Ephedrine or Pseudoephedrine?
Post by: long_hairhippie on July 08, 2012, 04:34 am
so you end up with some peanut butter type stuff or what? couldn't you wash that with acetone repeatedly until you get it as clean as you want and then, rock it to shard with an alcohol evaporation?
Title: Re: Cooking some meth. Ephedrine or Pseudoephedrine?
Post by: Limetless on July 08, 2012, 04:43 am
Grab some P2P.
Title: Re: Cooking some meth. Ephedrine or Pseudoephedrine?
Post by: long_hairhippie on July 08, 2012, 04:49 am
isn't the hot cook a lot harder to control than the cold cook birch reaction?
Title: Re: Cooking some meth. Ephedrine or Pseudoephedrine?
Post by: Limetless on July 08, 2012, 04:53 am
isn't the hot cook a lot harder to control than the cold cook birch reaction?

Yeah but it's by and large a cleaner synth.
Title: Re: Cooking some meth. Ephedrine or Pseudoephedrine?
Post by: long_hairhippie on July 08, 2012, 05:14 am
Right on, its funny, even when the dope is super clean you can still sort of taste the method that was used for the reaction.
Title: Re: Cooking some meth. Ephedrine or Pseudoephedrine?
Post by: smokeweed420 on July 08, 2012, 07:27 am
i have been watching the show "breaking bad" and i have to say, im not a meth user but after seeing all those wads of cash i think it would be a good business to get into. does the shake and bake method actually yield a decent amount?
Title: Re: Cooking some meth. Ephedrine or Pseudoephedrine?
Post by: long_hairhippie on July 08, 2012, 07:36 am
bro biggest problem with the meth game is feds, they can wrap your ass up in a conspiracy case so quick you won't know where teh 120 months they judge just hit you with came from. had a cellie who had just gotten sentenced for a meth ring. 18 years give or take some good time, who knows if his stash will still be there after his bid. you have to weigh cash vs a long time behind a fence.
Title: Re: Cooking some meth. Ephedrine or Pseudoephedrine?
Post by: sniper123 on July 09, 2012, 10:59 am
bro biggest problem with the meth game is feds, they can wrap your ass up in a conspiracy case so quick you won't know where teh 120 months they judge just hit you with came from. had a cellie who had just gotten sentenced for a meth ring. 18 years give or take some good time, who knows if his stash will still be there after his bid. you have to weigh cash vs a long time behind a fence.
Please re read the OP. I said for personal use only. As in myself, no one else. Not my friends, family.
Title: Re: Cooking some meth. Ephedrine or Pseudoephedrine?
Post by: gambino on July 10, 2012, 12:46 am
isn't the hot cook a lot harder to control than the cold cook birch reaction?

Yeah but it's by and large a cleaner synth.

No, it's the other way around.  Reduction of ephed/pseudo with lithium via Birch is a very clean synth if done correctly.  Reductive aminiation of P2P is not as clean and requires more purification after the reaction.  The other big difference is that reductive aminiation of P2P results in a racemic product, i.e. d,l-meth.  Any method using ephed/pseudo as a starting material results in chirally pure d-meth, which is the more active isomer and therefore twice as potent.