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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: smoked1 on November 24, 2011, 05:13 am
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Anyone interested in Cuban Cigars? I would imagine that Americans would be interested in these; maybe even Cuban Rum too.
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This is a duplicate subject matter. There is somewhat of a demand and this has been covered already. What you may wanna post is the country you can ship the cuban good from.
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I can ship from the US. My stock would be low from the start but if there are enough buyers I can easily get more pretty quick. I can even take special requests for just about any cigar made in Cuba. In some cases I can even take requests for a certain vintage.
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You may want too sell other products. People may be curious and try your great Cubans but I would guess that your not going to find enough fat cats and aristocrats too maintain a fair income on just Cuban cigars alone.
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i want a good cuban cigar and some rum
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Pardon my ignorance, but can't Cuban cigars be found in Smoke Stores?
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Cuban cigars are illegal because the United States has a trade embargo on the country. Any US business knowingly selling imported Cuban goods after the embargo was placed is subject to asset seizure from the IRS.
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The exception too the embargo rule - Iran concerning TOW missiles, small arms, military helicopters and armored vehicles.
During the Iran Contra scandal the US did supply Iran with heavy duty weapons while Iran was under a UN trade embargo. The US is one of 5 perminate members of the UN security council. This council has the power too cancel any resolution and stop the UN from taking action on ANY matter if just one member objects. The US voted for the embargo on Iran and then supplied Israel with weapons that were then given too Iran on behalf of the US government. This is a great example of why the UN has no real power and even bands of rebels in Africa were more than a UN security force of 15,000 international troops could handle. Despite 300 mercenaries almost destroying the army of rebels before the UN stepped in and deemed the mercenaries actions illegal. Too this day the country is under siege by rebels.
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Its about a perfect example of US hypocrisy in embarassing action. The congressmen who wanted these laws passed, instrumental and persuasive were the cuban republicans down Miami way...where the hypocrisy?: The wrote in exceptions for themselves. So congressmen can co got cuba and stock up on cigars, and do whatever else they do on these junkets, but make sure that the rest of us aren't allowed in. Here's Nixon, going over to China and making peace, but still ensuring we keep our iron heel on top of Cuba. Why? The main reason is this: what if they succeeded? What if they showed that socialized healthcare worked? God help us, so they made it illegal for most people to go, or to have commerce with cuba...but just in case democracy does 'bloom' they made sure they could go to cuba when they want to...those cubans just want to make sure the rest of us can't go.
Main trouble with 'cuban' cigars for me, is that it's been shown that in Mexico and Nicaragua they will sell rebranded dominican/honduran cigars with cuban lables. Unless you have a really good taste checker, you will have trouble telling a cuban from a good dominican made with cuban seed. Nicaragua sells cubans at most places gringos frequent, but a nicaraguan I trust told me they weren't really cubans, but just dressed up to sell to credible tourists...why I'd generally just get padron down there, myself.
So I"ve no doubt these are real cubans, but how to tell? Perhaps I've just spent too much time down in bordertowns, and it's made a skeptic out of me...Vendor obviously seems legit, but how to get around this? Any suggestions?
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I can tell just by smoking a cigar if it is real or not but I have been smoking for a very long time. If you buy a full box of cigars there are a number of ways to tell. One way is by using a black light on the tax stamp. You can also tell by how the date stamp is on the bottom. If the date stamp is in ink the cigars are fake. Real Cuban Cigars are stamped with a hot iron. The bottom line is; you will know when you smoke it.
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I can tell just by smoking a cigar if it is real or not but I have been smoking for a very long time. If you buy a full box of cigars there are a number of ways to tell. One way is by using a black light on the tax stamp. You can also tell by how the date stamp is on the bottom. If the date stamp is in ink the cigars are fake. Real Cuban Cigars are stamped with a hot iron. The bottom line is; you will know when you smoke it.
Oh I've been at it a long time too: I've never smoked cigarettes, and smoked cigars a long time, but I've had the opposite experience, that my pallet got more jaded, rather than more educated, and where I like full bodied cigars, and don't appreciate the more nuanced taste that others do: but I take your point, as you obviously know a lot more about them, than I do. Happiest days were on west coast of nicaragua, loving the surf and the fact that I lived in one big humidor :) but even there, cubans were very expensive, and, like I said, a guy who sold them ran down the ways some were taking advantage, and selling the readily available and expensive cubans, but also the nicaraguans that were using cuban labels...it was kind of a pet peeve with this guy, down near Rivas....
Mostly just wanted to point out yet another way of scamming that I"d bumped into in both Mexico and Nicaragua. I mysel usually opt for Nicaraguan cigars, padron my favorites, in general, but my friends say if I wasn't so burnt out, that dominicans would be preferred, and--as you say--real cohibas from Cuba...best wishes to you, next time I"m on main site I'm going to try to get some also, as they just sound really good!
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I've spent a lot of time in Cuba and I can almost guarantee that these cigars will be fake. Counterfeit cigars is the biggest underground industry in Cuba. EVERYONE has an uncle/brother/dad/ etc. that works in [BRAND] cigar factory that sneaks cigars out. Sometimes they're legit, but most of the time they're rolled by employees of cigar factories at home in their down time. The boxes are either lifted from the factories or handmade (no shortage of skilled woodworkers in Cuba) and the tax stamps/seals are likewise traded on the "black" market.
Unless the person you're buying them from got them from a licensed smoke shop in Cuba or Canada, they're almost certainly well-rolled but made with shitty scraps. I've been to a guy's house in havana where he had everything to make a box of cigars look legit, and all of the boxes/stckers etc were real - just stolen, and the cigars were rolled from discarded tobacco from one of the factories that makes montecristo #2.
I would bet money that this vendor is thinking he can finance trips to Cuba by buying shit cigars from the hotel staff at the resort he's staying at (he doesn't care whether they're real or not- just have to look right) for 30- 50 bucks a box, then reselling them on here. Even though there's plenty of money to be made by buying real ones and selling them, why pay $400 ($1800 in Canada) for a box of real cohiba's when you can get pretty good knock offs for $60-$100.
Its just too likely that the cigars would be fake
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I've spent a lot of time in Cuba and I can almost guarantee that these cigars will be fake. Counterfeit cigars is the biggest underground industry in Cuba. EVERYONE has an uncle/brother/dad/ etc. that works in [BRAND] cigar factory that sneaks cigars out. Sometimes they're legit, but most of the time they're rolled by employees of cigar factories at home in their down time. The boxes are either lifted from the factories or handmade (no shortage of skilled woodworkers in Cuba) and the tax stamps/seals are likewise traded on the "black" market.
Unless the person you're buying them from got them from a licensed smoke shop in Cuba or Canada, they're almost certainly well-rolled but made with shitty scraps. I've been to a guy's house in havana where he had everything to make a box of cigars look legit, and all of the boxes/stckers etc were real - just stolen, and the cigars were rolled from discarded tobacco from one of the factories that makes montecristo #2.
I would bet money that this vendor is thinking he can finance trips to Cuba by buying shit cigars from the hotel staff at the resort he's staying at (he doesn't care whether they're real or not- just have to look right) for 30- 50 bucks a box, then reselling them on here. Even though there's plenty of money to be made by buying real ones and selling them, why pay $400 ($1800 in Canada) for a box of real cohiba's when you can get pretty good knock offs for $60-$100.
Its just too likely that the cigars would be fake
I won't bother being insulted because anyone buying Cuban cigars should be skeptical. However, mine are purchased from a legit vendor located in Switzerland. I did my research, went to all of the HERFs in L.A. and found out who to buy from and who not to buy from. 90% of the people do sell fakes but believe me when I say that I know my shit.
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I'd be interested in rum. Please contact me.