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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: BoomBoomPow on December 28, 2011, 04:25 pm

Title: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: BoomBoomPow on December 28, 2011, 04:25 pm
In the near future I will be aquiring different weapons, some include the .40cal, AR15, and the classic 9MM.

The serial numbers will be etched off for my and your safety.

Gauging interest.

Not sure what the prices should be, I'm not getting them cheap since they're being obtained legally.

Also have Xanax bars if anyone's interested.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: oioi on December 28, 2011, 07:15 pm
Oh yeah,nice to hear.
When you will get a seller account on SR?
I'm sure to buy a 9mm
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: BoomBoomPow on December 28, 2011, 07:20 pm
I will be getting an account, will need a BTC exchanger to send me cash so I need that arranged.

Will take special requests to see what I can do.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: oioi on December 28, 2011, 07:56 pm
I have found  exchangers,never used them,but seem  good.

http://www.bitcoinexchange.cc
https://mtgox.com/
https://www.get-bitcoin.com/

What you fink?
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: BoomBoomPow on December 28, 2011, 08:02 pm
Probably will just use a BTC To Cash member.
Would also be willing to trade product for the machine mechanisms. :).
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: cranEitorium on December 28, 2011, 09:37 pm
Do u live domestically in the US???

i would love to take those babys off your hands, just shipping something like that is not the safest.

ide be willing to meet you anywhere in california/west coast.

let me know some more details and im sure we could be of great use to eachother.

send me a pm on the road to discuss this a little more.
~ConTCrane-
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: Toxicophilous on December 28, 2011, 09:39 pm
You can't obliterate serial numbers on a gun because of the difference in density where the characters have been struck. They will always be retrievable. To state that this is making you (or anyone else!) any safer is misleading and you're already combining drug/weapons charges into one neat little bundle for the feds to nail someone on and put them away for no less than 20 years.

Besides, no matter what shipping method you use, guns are easily detected by all carriers and are in fact intercepted constantly.

Smooth, but I think I smell bacon.

Thanks but no thanks, LE.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: freddieisdead on December 28, 2011, 10:02 pm
It is true that forensics is able to lift serial numbers even after they've been filed by using a process that shows more dense metal (underneath where it was stamped). However the metal isn't more dense straight through the whole piece, so if one were to continue filing well beyond the point you would consider it illegible, it MAY be impossible for forensics to recover any serial number. This is not just a bullshit thought I made up, but something I learned while in school for forensic science taught to me by a forensics expert who works for sheriff's department in the area. I always try to learn about what the opposition can use against us and how we can avoid it ;)

Of course, there's no threshold of certainty where you would be safe and it is certainly risky behavior selling guns for illegal purposes that you purchased legally yourself. I would not advise the purchase or sale of guns unless you have full trust in the other party.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: fable on December 28, 2011, 10:36 pm
Xanax! Do you have good prices?  :)
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: Toxicophilous on December 28, 2011, 11:45 pm
freddie: How much thickness would you consider "safe" to take off of a high pressure vessel, like the barrel? AFAIK, every barrel manufactured in the USA comes with a serial or identifier and personally, I'm not comfy compromising the structural integrity of that piece....

Besides, every gun manufactured in the USA is test fired and the barrel forensics are recorded for the FBI & thus, INTERPOL and THAT is a goddamned fact you can't escape.

The ejector, firing pin and receiver impressions on the test cartridge case are also recorded so, what, you gonna strip and build a whole new gun?

I think not.

Might as well buy them stolen and resell.

Also, cranEitorium: Why the fuck would you use some place like this to source firearms when you can either get them legally or, if you're forbidden to purchase due to a felony etc, you could just hook up with some stolen hardware via your nearest local crackhead..... Unless you're a fucking cop?
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: foxymeow on December 29, 2011, 12:30 am
freddie: How much thickness would you consider "safe" to take off of a high pressure vessel, like the barrel? AFAIK, every barrel manufactured in the USA comes with a serial or identifier and personally, I'm not comfy compromising the structural integrity of that piece....

Besides, every gun manufactured in the USA is test fired and the barrel forensics are recorded for the FBI & thus, INTERPOL and THAT is a goddamned fact you can't escape.

The ejector, firing pin and receiver impressions on the test cartridge case are also recorded so, what, you gonna strip and build a whole new gun?

I think not.

Might as well buy them stolen and resell.

Also, cranEitorium: Why the fuck would you use some place like this to source firearms when you can either get them legally or, if you're forbidden to purchase due to a felony etc, you could just hook up with some stolen hardware via your nearest local crackhead..... Unless you're a fucking cop?

People want guns on SR and some people are willing to sell. That is just the name of the game. If this is supposed to be a black market than obviously they will sell everything that you could get locally as long as it is feasible.

On another note: Bars and Guns...sounds like a series of bad decisions. ^^
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: Toxicophilous on December 29, 2011, 12:39 am
eople want guns on SR and some people are willing to sell. That is just the name of the game. If this is supposed to be a black market than obviously they will sell everything that you could get locally as long as it is feasible.

I hear you and I respect the concept in theory, however you still didn't answer the question.

There's just no sense in it.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: BoomBoomPow on December 29, 2011, 02:38 am
I find it hilarious Toxicophilous is trying to make it seem like buying guns is a bad idea.
I have a method completely removing the serial number to where it is no longer identifiable.

Mainly only looking for 3-4 consistant customers.
No bacon here Toxico, but if you insist I'd be willing to give my X-Ray baggies a test run.

Will also gain trust by dealing with a somewhat trusted member, dead drops can be arranged.
PM me for info.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: foxymeow on December 29, 2011, 06:39 am
I find it hilarious Toxicophilous is trying to make it seem like buying guns is a bad idea.
I have a method completely removing the serial number to where it is no longer identifiable.

Mainly only looking for 3-4 consistant customers.
No bacon here Toxico, but if you insist I'd be willing to give my X-Ray baggies a test run.

Will also gain trust by dealing with a somewhat trusted member, dead drops can be arranged.
PM me for info.
I find it hilarious Toxicophilous is trying to make it seem like buying guns is a bad idea.
I have a method completely removing the serial number to where it is no longer identifiable.

Mainly only looking for 3-4 consistant customers.
No bacon here Toxico, but if you insist I'd be willing to give my X-Ray baggies a test run.

Will also gain trust by dealing with a somewhat trusted member, dead drops can be arranged.
PM me for info.

Sounds legit man. More the merrier on SR.

As long as you don't use bars and guns at the same time ^^
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: outbacktrippin on December 29, 2011, 09:29 am
You can't obliterate serial numbers on a gun because of the difference in density where the characters have been struck. They will always be retrievable.

This is completely out of my realm of expertise so apologies if this sounds stupid but... couldn't you just stamp any old bullshit a few times over the old serial number before filing it off to randomise the density patterns?

On the other hand, I can't imagine the only tracable element would be a serial number. I wouldn't take the chance either way.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: BoomBoomPow on December 29, 2011, 03:30 pm
I find it hilarious Toxicophilous is trying to make it seem like buying guns is a bad idea.
I have a method completely removing the serial number to where it is no longer identifiable.

Mainly only looking for 3-4 consistant customers.
No bacon here Toxico, but if you insist I'd be willing to give my X-Ray baggies a test run.

Will also gain trust by dealing with a somewhat trusted member, dead drops can be arranged.
PM me for info.
I find it hilarious Toxicophilous is trying to make it seem like buying guns is a bad idea.
I have a method completely removing the serial number to where it is no longer identifiable.

Mainly only looking for 3-4 consistant customers.
No bacon here Toxico, but if you insist I'd be willing to give my X-Ray baggies a test run.

Will also gain trust by dealing with a somewhat trusted member, dead drops can be arranged.
PM me for info.

Sounds legit man. More the merrier on SR.

As long as you don't use bars and guns at the same time ^^

Haha, right, don't want a barbaby getting a hold of xanax and high powered rifles while they're intoxicated lol...

Anyway, any potential buyers for the xanax or guns just shoot me a PM, questions can be asked here too, don't be shy.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: freddieisdead on December 30, 2011, 10:24 am
Toxicophilous: I'll be honest, I don't know how deep one would have to file or if it would be problematic but I do know it is possible, at least in some circumstances. Also, I don't believe every gun made in the states is recorded after it is manufactured for all of those things you mentioned. That information is used in connecting a weapon to a crime scene post incident for sure though and if the gun had been previously used in a crime where casings or a bullet were recovered it's very likely it would show up in NIBIN (database for ballistics identification which is used by LE across the united states)

outbacktrippin: I don't see why that wouldn't work, assuming you could recreate legit looking stamps. I like that idea haha.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: Escher on December 31, 2011, 01:11 am
freddie: How much thickness would you consider "safe" to take off of a high pressure vessel, like the barrel? AFAIK, every barrel manufactured in the USA comes with a serial or identifier and personally, I'm not comfy compromising the structural integrity of that piece....

Starting with a heavy barrel?  You can remove quite a bit safely.  Pencil profile barrels?  Not nearly as much.  It also depends on the material and the plating technology.  Removing serial numbers with a mill and the proper tooling isn't hard, nor is making them damn near unrecoverable.  "Filing" off the serial numbers?  No.  Removing them the right way?  Not hard.

I'd mill them off, restamp them, mill, restamp, and then coat the parts.  It would just look like a re manufactured barrel.

Besides, every gun manufactured in the USA is test fired and the barrel forensics are recorded for the FBI & thus, INTERPOL and THAT is a goddamned fact you can't escape.

Do you have any evidence of this?  Considering I have a license to manufacture firearms (and do, on a regular basis) and certainly dont have to send the FBI any barrel forensics. 

The ejector, firing pin and receiver impressions on the test cartridge case are also recorded

...evidence?  The only time this information MIGHT be recorded, is if the firearm is used in a crime.  Same with barrel fingerprinting.  And even then its usually only a stored in a local database.

Other than some shit in California, I've never heard of any of the shit you're talking about.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: outbacktrippin on December 31, 2011, 05:30 am
outbacktrippin: I don't see why that wouldn't work, assuming you could recreate legit looking stamps. I like that idea haha.
The goal is obfuscation, not impersonation. You wouldn't even need legit looking stamps. You'd just need anything that makes the existing legit stamping as muddled as possible, so anyone trying to recover a serial from the imprinted density patterns underneath would be scratching their heads. The main issue I think would be stamping it efficiently, ie only affecting the same area as the serial number stamp as much as possible. Anything other area you affect is just damage.

Again disclaimer: I know nothing, just hypothesizing.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: blunt1 on December 31, 2011, 05:25 pm
Are any of these able to ship to uk???
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: BoomBoomPow on December 31, 2011, 10:57 pm
At this point I will have to say no, but if you're willing to take the customs chance and the price hike, than I'm sure I could help you out.

Let me know mate.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: jimmy69 on December 31, 2011, 11:25 pm
going rate on an bushmaster ar with telescoping stock? may know of one for sale...
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: thecloser29 on January 01, 2012, 01:05 am
Looking for a quality .38 <2" revolver and/or a .40 or .45ACP Sub-compact semi-auto(please no Hi-point lol) Looking for a Sig Sauer P220,250 290 etc or a Beretta Storm PX4. I'm open to other options, but don't want any crap.

Thanks
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: 40opana on January 01, 2012, 10:53 am
There is an intense level of half-facts and outright lies on this forum about firearms. If you get your information from a gun store, tv show, or computer game you may want to think twice about citing something as 'fact'.

This post is mostly a pathetic attempt at a rant.

ps. Listen to Escher to learn a little something.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: lemmiwinks on January 01, 2012, 02:10 pm
I guess at this point gauging interest is done. Remember that the only way you are going to sell anything here is with a seller's account and %100 escrow.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: blunt1 on January 01, 2012, 08:29 pm
@ boomboompow
you can pm me at tor dir so we could chat this over a bit more shipping etc
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: lemmiwinks on January 02, 2012, 12:25 am
FIY, it's always been scams when it came to selling firearms over tor. An example right here on this forum - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=5008.0
NEVER buy anything without %100 escrow.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: jani123 on January 02, 2012, 06:18 pm
FIY, it's always been scams when it came to selling firearms over tor. An example right here on this forum - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=5008.0
NEVER buy anything without %100 escrow.
:'(

Same guys ...boomboompow= shootmeup=blackdiamond= black african guys

They not even have money open to silk road seller account. Buls shitting there is free and african local tradition.
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: blunt1 on January 02, 2012, 07:13 pm
@ jani  you make a valid point however i would never buy without it being put on sr or bm and by btc with full escrow.However these forums are good for networking just you have to sort thro the shit a bit
Title: Re: Guns. ( Finally ).
Post by: Kali Kross on January 02, 2012, 08:20 pm
You are stupid you cannot remove the serial number of a gun by etching it off or by acid burning. All it does is attract attention to the gun. No one should buy a gun with the serial number removed because if you get caught with it you will be in a lot of trouble plus LE will be able to find out the serial number. You have been warned. Never purchase a gun that has its serial number fucked with or altered in anyway. At least if you have a dirty gun with a serial number your lawyer has a few tricks and defenses he can try. But if you have a gun with no serial number their isn't much your lawyer can do to protect you.