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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: bodysativa on February 21, 2013, 09:43 am
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link to post from Yoda on Rumor Mill cocaine thread:
I'm struggling on how to say this....
I really don't want to come off as a dick, I just hate misinformation/disinformation and bullshit. (I'm not a PO'd vendor either)
I smell a junkie scam.
Let say... If I had the disposable income to buy the primo coke here and give it away, for whatever reason. Am I going to ask for donations?... or samples? If I'm buying Earth's most primo shit, and giving it away... do you think I'm hurting for cash? Do you think money is an issue in my life?
And if I'm not wealthy... do you really think I'd be giving away what precious coke I did buy?
If I wanted to scam people into giving me free drugs here, how would I go about it? Lie, right?
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Chemistry:
I'm not the all knowing coke chemistry wizard... but I did take a shit-ton of chemistry way back in the day. I worked in a lab/manufacturer for many years... and if a lab ever told me that Cocaine HCL has a maximum possible purity level of 89% I'd laugh in their fucking face and want to beat & mug them right there. No legit chemist anywhere in the world would state such an inaccuracy. Don't believe me... it took me a whole 20 seconds to google cocaine hcl (CAS: 53-21-4)... look for yourselves, look at the purity levels. >99%
http://www.weiku.com/General-Assay-Diagnostic-Apparatus/buy-Cocaine.html
http://www.tocris.com/dispprod.php?ItemId=5327#.USRlXcjLejB
So either we believe anonymous random people on the forum saying that 89% is the max purity cocaine HCL can be/achieve... or I believe chemical suppliers, labs, articles etc. Hmm.
My best guess is that those originally claiming 89% is the max... don't understand the difference between quantitative analysis with qualitative analysis, and are mixing the two.
Yes... if you convert 100% C-HCL into C-base, you will lose the weight of the HCL (~11%). So that means if you started out with 1 gram C-HCL, basified it then weighed it... it now weighs 0.89 grams. Which you can now re-acidify back to 100% C-HCL@ 1 gram. (what you were looking for was an extra 11%+ loss of weight to identify presence of impurity... thinking it wont rock-out w/ the coke) But this acid/base conversion is a very bad measure of purity... since other adulterants also have/may have similar acid/base properties... such as the other Caines and levamisole. Just like coke will "rock out"(precipitate), these things are in there (I suspect) because they too will rock out with the coke. That and numbness.
A legit lab would use a combination of instruments such as GC/MS, NMR, HPLC... maybe a couple of them, maybe just the GC/MS since it is already two in one. Whatever. But no way would they rely on just rocking the coke out and weighing it... misunderstanding mols and the weight loss. They would understand mols. Not to mention, this lab is supposed to specialize in testing illicit substances.
What's being shoveled, doesn't add up. And for me... a link to a testing facility web site doesn't prove squat. I need to see some instrument readouts etc.
TL;DR
89% is not the max purity level of Cocaine HCL, or it's base form... and anyone claiming that a lab is telling them this, is straight out lying. I'd love to say maybe someone is hustling them, but there is the matter of disposable income, donations etc.. And you people are praising him, giving this guy free money and samples, hanging on his every word. smh
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