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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: faqall on June 25, 2013, 11:23 pm

Title: *****Vender "4 heroin" MONEYPAK SCAM*****
Post by: faqall on June 25, 2013, 11:23 pm
Over 24 hours ago I placed a moneypak to btc order with vendor "4 heroin" for $300 USD. I seems he just recently disappeared as you can no longer access the vendor page.. it takes you straight to send them a message page http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/63ef570e14. Anyways I sent him my moneypak number and asked how long it was going to take which he replied:

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hey bud, please check your cards balance. i am just now at home using a regular laptop but I do believe I recall not being able 2 load your payment. Ive had trouble with multiple MPs today but I have not cashed any MP that I didnt send coin for so you dont have to worry about that. If I can process your MP and load the payment i can send your coin ASAP. I really do apologize for this and I am starting to understand why other vendors are getting out of using moneypaks. It seemed like such good money for only doing simple math but now I am realizing that the profit is eating up by frequent trips to the ATM and all the headaches of keeping track of transactions on like 30 cards.

So I reply (3 separate messages):

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There is no way to check balances on reload cards according to the website and the phone number. If you know of a way please let me know. The Number is (EDITED OUT) I was loaded today about 20 min before I placed the order with you. I have only provided this number to you so all $300 should be there. Can you please let me know asap! Thanks in advanced Appreciate ya!

to clarify.. that should say... *IT* was loaded about 20 min... lol.. not I was loaded hahaha. Please let me know whats going on really dont want to loose $300 and trust you can work this out. Again thank you much and I appreciate ya!

FYI: I also just tried calling customer support however it is after hours. Regardless I know there is $300 on the card. I have the receipt as well to confirm. Never had an issue yet with a balance not showing. Please keep me posted! Need to place an order ASAP. Thank you!!!!

and he again replies:

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   if you can tell them to let the funds go through I can send you the coins. I have them right now in my account. Also I understand that things can get emotional but I am not being dishonest in anyway and its clear to me form your msg that your just guessing yourself while simultaneously implying that I am making things up. For instance you say there is no way that you can check the balance of a reload card however almost every single reload card that cars the money pak name, has a website that can be used exactly for things like checking your balance up to the second below is a list of 10 of these such websites. So please dont guess about how money pak operates and come to the incorrect conclusions that I did anything other then perform a 100% stellar service. Go to any one of these websites and you will clearly see that you were wrong about the fact that almost every reload card has a website written write on the back of the card that can be used to check the balance.

I didn't do this to you nor did I cause this action to happen nor can I even speculate why Green Dot is doing this. Its their company and I am sorry and when I get the money out of the ATM I will send you your coins within a few minutes right from my smart phone from this account which I have them in now to your account named faqall. If you need any further clarifications please conatct me ASAP here are 10 websites that you can use to check the balance and other stuff for reload cards

www.myreadycard.com
www.americanexpress.com/prepaid
www.readydebit.com
www.247card.com
www.serve.com
www.goldvisa.accountnow.com
www.mybuyright.com
www.americanexpress.com/campusedition
www.paypower.com
www.only1.com

and those are just the ones I have time to type. I am really sorry and I will do what I can the best thing that you can do is to help me get the money off of my card from the ATM which I cannot do now because of some type of hold being placed on the balance by the Green Dot company. If they are after hours then they must be called immediately in the morning so that I can get the money first thing and send you your coins. My service is as good as it gets and this is Green Dots fault. Please work through this and I will lead you to a solution as fast as it can be done and I will work as hard as I have to in order to protect your purchase. ALl my purchases include my own personal 100% satisfaction guarantee and I pride myself on my business and high operating standards.


Now Im not yet getting emotional but and getting weary because he didnt even list the moneypak site or the green dot site.. each of which you cannot verify your balance on anyways. You cant even verify the balance of a reload card over the phone. They just wont release that information.

My next replies:

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There is in fact no way to check the balance of a reload card via the moneypak website. I am not jumping to any conclusions. Last time I call the moneypak number an automated message said they were no longer providing balances for reload cards for 'security purposes'. Not sure what kind they speak of or what the issue would be with checking a balance. Youve listed evey site but the moneypak site by the way which happens to be moneypak.com. If you can help find me the field to verify this it would be greatly appreciated. Ive never had to call and have them release the funds. This is an automated process.

So am I understanding you were infact able to take my money off the card using the number I provided however cannot send me the money because its blocked/locked on your end?


greendot.com is another site as well aside from moneypak.com. From what I read and after talking to another vendor you will get the funds off my moneypak and sometimes there is a brief hold (which would be on your end of the actual card itself from what i understand) The funds are there but not available for immediate w/d just like a bank works to avoid fraud. They should be today for you to w/d. Please check. If not you might need to contact support. I will be doing the same thing at 8 AM ET to ensure you have in fact taken the money off the reload card (greendot/moneypak) card number I provided. Again thank you and please keep me posted. This has been the most complicated moneypak trans I have ever experienced yet so any updates you can give me along the way would be appreciated. Was really hoping to get an order out today. Talk to ya later!!


I just got off the phone with MoneyPack/Green dot support. They say once you have received my reload number and processed it the funds should be immediately available on your card to use with no delay/hold. Please note it was for $300. I also verified with the merchant I purchased the reload card from that the funds were in fact added to the reload card. Can you please call support and let them know about this issue? Have you already used my MP number? Thanks again. Hope to hear from you soon!

I also was able to verify the balance of the card via PayPal and it shows me the balance is now $0 meaing the funds have been withdrawn from the MoneyPak card I provided. so thats good news meaning you should now have the funds to transfer into BTC for me. Thank you SO MUCH!!! Hopefully things work out on your side!

I also was able to verify the balance of the card via PayPal and it shows me the balance is now $0 meaing the funds have been withdrawn from the MoneyPak card I provided. so thats good news meaning you should now have the funds to transfer into BTC for me. Thank you SO MUCH!!! Hopefully things work out on your side!



So he did take the money off my card. Has not responded to any of my messages nor even read them (they are still marked unread) and I even see him actively fulfilling other orders (before the account was closed) unless hes using multiple accounts to fake the appearance of orders. So if I were any of you and you see mr 4 heroin return to the market... AVOID AT ALL COSTS. I was able to do a successful transaction with another vendor within hours... but it seems 4 heroin has taken my money and ran and I am out $300  >:(.
Title: Re: *****Vender "4 heroin" MONEYPAK SCAM*****
Post by: ianfleming on June 26, 2013, 01:15 am
Damn near lost $200 to this guy, but I contacted a vendor named Smartcoin and he was able to get the cash from the MP and get me my coins.
I love how "4 Heroin" would respond to messages within the hour before I sent the code but afterwards it took him 3 hours and it was just to ask for the code again because it didnt work for him.