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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: Duke Roule on March 03, 2013, 09:54 pm
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I've done a few, but never really experienced hallucinations. Any particular one, or combination, that really takes you over the rainbow?
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You might be looking for DMT.
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2ct-2 is very visual 8)
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salvia is quite visual in that when you smoke enough you can be an object or a part of an object, unfortunately I haven't done any other psychedelics to compare
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DMT is the most visual open and closed eyed
ive seen colors and images that are unexplainable
anyone who has done it and blasted off, will know what im talking about
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I have experience with DMT. Definitely had some phosphene visuals going on with that. My GF has done salvia. She says it's very unpleasant. So I've tended to stay away from it. I don't like disassociation, or anything like that, but I'll check out that 2ct-2 stuff. Never even heard it. Thanks!
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Try 2c-e, more visual than acid and pretty fun/cheap/safe
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OK, yeah I've been scoping out the 2C family quite a bit. Honestly I'm not very familiar with it. Definitely gotta try it now. I saw a trip report where somebody took 2C-B and 4-Aco-DMT, and it seemed pretty amazing. Thanks for the recommendation!
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2cb is a good start, to phenethylamines as is 2ci. 2ce gets more intense and introspective with almost a spiritual aspect its a defiantly good, but not for people who haven't had much experience in mho.
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Take a larger dose of DMT. Hands down the most visual drug. Also, try smoking it at the peak of an acid or shroom trip for an intense experience. Or, take an MAOI like Syrian Rue an hour before smoking DMT and it will last much longer. Don't fuck with salvia, that shit sucks (although definitely heavy visuals.
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I think people expect some experience of pink elephants dancing around a fire or something. I never see things like this, just see stuff out of the corner of my eye or tracers or confuse things, or see high detail. If I actually got some serious hallucinations like that, I would probably not be okay with that haha.
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2cb, 2ce, lsd, shroom, and dmt have been experienced. it's hard to separate what's most visual. visual in what sense? sight? sound? balance? greatest change in object or most flow of textures?
regardless, it's all individual. so your question falls deep into a fallacious pit from the beginning.
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OK, yeah. didn't mean to take you down a fallacious pit like that. :/ Guess I just mean visual, like fractals and what not. Less body high if you know what I mean. I'm talking like yellow submarine visuals. Waves of vivid colors and visions.
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I think people expect some experience of pink elephants dancing around a fire or something.
Those are not hallucinations. Hallucinations have a basis in reality and are a warping or bending of perception. So fractals, objects appearing the wrong size and/or color and other misinterpretations of your surroundings.
Delusion on the other hand have no basis in reality and tend to be more stark, drugs that produce these are called dilliriants. They act in a different way than psychedelics though most are fairly safe. However, they tend to make a user incredibly tired and are usually quite terrifying. High doses of Benedryl, Dramamine, Angels Trumpet, scopalamine, or most other over-the-counter anti-cholinergics, tend to produce these results.
As a side note there was a famous military developed dileriant called BZ, active in the microgram range, with a dose lasting around 72 hours. The stuff was insanely powerful too, it would fuck a person up and often resulted in PTSD. They developed bombs for the stuff and aerosol sprays. It was tested on soldiers and prisoners and most of this data is now public knowledge, go look it up if your interested.
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I think people expect some experience of pink elephants dancing around a fire or something.
Those are not hallucinations. Hallucinations have a basis in reality and are a warping or bending of perception. So fractals, objects appearing the wrong size and/or color and other misinterpretations of your surroundings.
Delusion on the other hand have no basis in reality and tend to be more stark, drugs that produce these are called dilliriants. They act in a different way than psychedelics though most are fairly safe. However, they tend to make a user incredibly tired and are usually quite terrifying. High doses of Benedryl, Dramamine, Angels Trumpet, scopalamine, or most other over-the-counter anti-cholinergics, tend to produce these results.
As a side note there was a famous military developed dileriant called BZ, active in the microgram range, with a dose lasting around 72 hours. The stuff was insanely powerful too, it would fuck a person up and often resulted in PTSD. They developed bombs for the stuff and aerosol sprays. It was tested on soldiers and prisoners and most of this data is now public knowledge, go look it up if your interested.
Wow man. I did just look it up. Crazy man! They call it agent buzz. It's supposed to be the stuff that the platoon in Jacobs Ladder was on. Sounds scary. On the other hand it might be the most amazing experience known to man. Someone needs to put that stuff on SR.
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Wow man. I did just look it up. Crazy man! They call it agent buzz. It's supposed to be the stuff that the platoon in Jacobs Ladder was on. Sounds scary. On the other hand it might be the most amazing experience known to man. Someone needs to put that stuff on SR.
I made a topic for it in the "Product Request" area of the forums. No good responses, no one seems to be able to get it or make it, or they dont care too.
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You guys who are saying DMT are close, as it's a clear second I think, but a big bowl of 40x Salvia with a high heat torch or lighter
is BY FAR the most intense experience. It is truly a difference universe, like a K-Hole but 10x more bizarre. However, your mind is totally lost too.
For a strong one where you'll probably remember everything I'd say 20-40mg of 2CB is your best bet. SNORTED, not swallowed. Just prepare for 10minutes of agony first!
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Honestly a strong solid LSD dose gives amazing visuals. 2c's are great too. DMT is next level--very spiritual.
Leave salvia alone. That's a dark place and is anything but fun.
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salvia is really intense, tried it before any psychedelic and it rocked my dome piece
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fuck salvia
DMT
LSD
Mushrooms
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I totally agree, Salvia is a dark dark place and can send you temporarily mad. But it is literally the answer to the question posed.
Personally a powerful K-Hole is my fave, a 300-500mg line and an episode of South Park.
Strong LSD or good quality 2CB are nice in that they aren't too overpowering (as in you still have most of your wits about you).
DMT is more like Salvia in that it really is an altered state of mind and perception. It's the most horrible to smoke though. Tastes
like a chemical arms factory in your lungs and mouth.
Mushrooms can go wrong so easily that you have to be careful leading into the harder end, some people have really bad trips (like anything I guess) on mushrooms that put them off psychedelics for life. I love some great mushrooms if you put em in a shake (so horrible to chew (AND YOU HAVE TO CHEW, SUCH A COMMON MISTAKE) but like anything I guess, be careful!
If you can get it, drink some reindeer piss!