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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: tordemon on February 19, 2012, 05:50 pm

Title: Netherlands
Post by: tordemon on February 19, 2012, 05:50 pm
Two things about Netherlands shipping I thought I would mention/ask for commentary on.

The first is that vendors from Netherlands seem to have HORRIBLE shipping practices. I feel like Netherlands has such a high seizure rate because things are so often packed poorly. I've made almost 10 orders from the Netherlands now, and I'll mention that SKYY has INGENIOUS packaging, but I won't mention the others (for their privacy) who very frequently just put bags of drugs in an envelope (1 person literally put a pill in an envelope; didn't even put it in a bag or put anything else in the envelope; I was surprised it made it to me). For the most part, their packaging has proven less viable than packaging from domestic orders here in the US. I don't want to get on ya'll's cases or anything, but please improve your packaging, Netherlands vendors; I'd appreciate the increased likelihood of getting what I paid for. =]

The second was an interesting phenomenon that hadn't happened previously: 5 orders I made from the Netherlands over the course of half a month or so all arrived on the same day. An order I made halfway through that period from the Netherlands, though, arrived a week earlier. Do you think that those 5 envelopes were held onto until they were put on a ship for the US or something? Or were they held in customs for a while for some reason? It very thoroughly confused me.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: Angelology on February 19, 2012, 07:16 pm
Netherlands is a big nono.

Everything coming out of that country is flagged.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: tordemon on February 19, 2012, 10:27 pm
Netherlands is a big nono.

Everything coming out of that country is flagged.

>.<

I don't think you even read my post. I already know that that's the "common knowledge" on the topic.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: Holly on February 19, 2012, 11:14 pm
Vendors from NL shipping internationally should upgrade their packaging.  Fucking DRAmsterdam still can't even ship cid.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: tordemon on February 20, 2012, 03:50 pm
Vendors from NL shipping internationally should upgrade their packaging.  Fucking DRAmsterdam still can't even ship cid.
DRAmsterdam was actually one of the ones I thought was on the higher end of the spectrum. As he said, he actually does single vacuum seal his product, and then it was actually somewhat reasonably packaged, but still not quite as extensively as I would have hoped. Probably second only to SKYY, really. =P
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: White Light on February 20, 2012, 04:24 pm
Hi,
I agree with you, I don't understand how a seller can send drugs from Holland in a simple padded enveloppe : customs just need to pick one of this packages and have 90 % chances to find drugs inside !
I confirm SKYY makes outstanding packages, and I had good packages from Dr Amsterdam and Aakoven too, but other dutch sellers I have tried should really improve their packages. This is the reason why I don't want to try to order weed or any voluminous stuff from Holland...

WL
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: zerostate976 on February 20, 2012, 05:01 pm
if skyy has such good packaging then other NL vendors need to order something from him to check out how he does it. So far I think the vendors from .nl have done a good job (Mitanox, Chemical brothers and AA especially)
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: tordemon on February 20, 2012, 10:44 pm
if skyy has such good packaging then other NL vendors need to order something from him to check out how he does it. So far I think the vendors from .nl have done a good job (Mitanox, Chemical brothers and AA especially)
I haven't ordered from Mitanox or AA (I thought he didn't ship to US?) but Chemical Brothers also were acceptable but still below my expectations for international orders. I certainly wouldn't want to compromise SKYY's shipping abilities, but I'll just say that it's very well disguised. Even if you opened the package, you wouldn't know. But that's not what's important; some packages I've received you could tell that there was something fishy inside -- sometimes a bag you could feel, othertimes you could feel pills, and sometimes you could even see them if you held them up to a light.

Hi,
I agree with you, I don't understand how a seller can send drugs from Holland in a simple padded enveloppe : customs just need to pick one of this packages and have 90 % chances to find drugs inside !
I confirm SKYY makes outstanding packages, and I had good packages from Dr Amsterdam and Aakoven too, but other dutch sellers I have tried should really improve their packages. This is the reason why I don't want to try to order weed or any voluminous stuff from Holland...

WL
Haven't ordered from Aakoven (also think he doesn't ship to US) but I agree with that; I wish they would package their items up better. I'm wondering if we should try to pressure them into packaging things more adequately, though? I don't want to release information about their packaging, but if they aren't doing a good job, people should know! And once people know, they'd be less likely to order from them, so they would be encouraged to improve their packaging. Other opinions on this?
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: BuddyRoyale on February 20, 2012, 10:57 pm
if skyy has such good packaging then other NL vendors need to order something from him to check out how he does it. So far I think the vendors from .nl have done a good job (Mitanox, Chemical brothers and AA especially)
I haven't ordered from Mitanox or AA (I thought he didn't ship to US?) but Chemical Brothers also were acceptable but still below my expectations for international orders. I certainly wouldn't want to compromise SKYY's shipping abilities, but I'll just say that it's very well disguised. Even if you opened the package, you wouldn't know. But that's not what's important; some packages I've received you could tell that there was something fishy inside -- sometimes a bag you could feel, othertimes you could feel pills, and sometimes you could even see them if you held them up to a light.

Hi,
I agree with you, I don't understand how a seller can send drugs from Holland in a simple padded enveloppe : customs just need to pick one of this packages and have 90 % chances to find drugs inside !
I confirm SKYY makes outstanding packages, and I had good packages from Dr Amsterdam and Aakoven too, but other dutch sellers I have tried should really improve their packages. This is the reason why I don't want to try to order weed or any voluminous stuff from Holland...

WL
Haven't ordered from Aakoven (also think he doesn't ship to US) but I agree with that; I wish they would package their items up better. I'm wondering if we should try to pressure them into packaging things more adequately, though? I don't want to release information about their packaging, but if they aren't doing a good job, people should know! And once people know, they'd be less likely to order from them, so they would be encouraged to improve their packaging. Other opinions on this?

Mitanox does a wonderful job and ships to the US.  Crystal/Powder maybe easier to deal with because it can be spread out but I have no hesitation to order from him.  I think anything coming from NL should have a standard far above the rest.  If it doesn't fit well in a "letter", you better get pretty fucking innovative and start taking densities into account.  DQB seems to be slightly retarded after seeing how many orders of his were seized without changing packaging drastically.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: Chemical Brothers on February 21, 2012, 09:57 am
if skyy has such good packaging then other NL vendors need to order something from him to check out how he does it. So far I think the vendors from .nl have done a good job (Mitanox, Chemical brothers and AA especially)
I haven't ordered from Mitanox or AA (I thought he didn't ship to US?) but Chemical Brothers also were acceptable but still below my expectations for international orders. I certainly wouldn't want to compromise SKYY's shipping abilities, but I'll just say that it's very well disguised. Even if you opened the package, you wouldn't know. But that's not what's important; some packages I've received you could tell that there was something fishy inside -- sometimes a bag you could feel, othertimes you could feel pills, and sometimes you could even see them if you held them up to a light.

Hi,


I agree with you, I don't understand how a seller can send drugs from Holland in a simple padded enveloppe : customs just need to pick one of this packages and have 90 % chances to find drugs inside !
I confirm SKYY makes outstanding packages, and I had good packages from Dr Amsterdam and Aakoven too, but other dutch sellers I have tried should really improve their packages. This is the reason why I don't want to try to order weed or any voluminous stuff from Holland...

WL
Haven't ordered from Aakoven (also think he doesn't ship to US) but I agree with that; I wish they would package their items up better. I'm wondering if we should try to pressure them into packaging things more adequately, though? I don't want to release information about their packaging, but if they aren't doing a good job, people should know! And once people know, they'd be less likely to order from them, so they would be encouraged to improve their packaging. Other opinions on this?




As sellers, we try to pack as much as possible. This is the last piece of what we can do for long trip. Constantly alternate and not notice.
Customs and other institutions can also read. So do not tell too much about
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: tordemon on February 21, 2012, 07:14 pm
It's not like they're not aware that some people just throw things in an envelope and send it out. But I certainly wouldn't compromise any seller's shipping methodology that was unique.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: Derpasaurus on February 22, 2012, 05:28 am
Watch any reality show on prisons and they usually tell you how drugs are smuggled in the mail. Like the postcard gluing trick to hide hash or heroin, behind the stamp LSD, ect.

I know a seller in Amsterdam that ships hash ironed flat, dbl vac sealed and shipped in windowed envelopes with unique designs for every single one. Almost impossible to find the product once opened and even still he was having problems with seizures simply because it was shipped from the NL the biggest red flag country for drugs next to Pakistan.

Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: 2513415 on February 22, 2012, 10:46 am
I have ordered twice from Chimical Brother's and both arrived very fast to the USA... i am expecting a 3rd shipment from him and I am sure it will show up. I have been in communication with DQB, i ordered something over 1 month ago and it never came, he said he sent it and by the time he sent it I already received another order from Chemical Brother's..wHAT is going on here... I just want the beans from DQB, I am receiving all of my packages in a timely fashion all over the world from all vendors except DQB. What do I do??
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: PBucket on February 22, 2012, 10:57 am
Yeah fuck the netherlands. There drugs arn't that good. Like seriously fuck that shit. I will only get samples from there cause its such a small thing which is easy to hide.

And especially by rumors of LAME packaging. It's like wtf. Just being a vendor from neth is wtf. It just SCREAMS "I'm using this country for my selling point". I rather by pure mdma from tony.

TONY IS THE MAN!
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: tordemon on February 22, 2012, 08:15 pm
I don't think products being from Netherlands are that big of a flag or that they're automatically that much better just because they're from Netherlands. But, regardless, I don't get why you wouldn't pack anything well that you knew was going to have to go through customs.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: drifter on February 22, 2012, 10:35 pm
folks, let me know if I'm being too descriptive and giving anything away and I'll edit my posts when i see your replies.

I've ordered from two netherlands vendors.

Candyshop - his envelope was quite smart, but if customs were to open it they would know what was going on. It's a good job the envelope was smart. that wrote, it's definitely vacuum sealed so that's all good.

skyyy - the envelope was sketchy, the name seems quite an obvious one and doesn't match the concealer inside. the concealment I have to say though (as many others have weote) is fucking awesome. I didn't think I would be able to get to my goods without wrecking them! also vacuum sealed.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: drifter on February 22, 2012, 10:44 pm
speaking as a uker it's unfortunate that there a lack of good e's anywhere else. I would love a wider choice. tbf though, the drugs ARE good from there.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: queryox on February 22, 2012, 11:21 pm
Yeah fuck the netherlands. There drugs arn't that good. Like seriously fuck that shit. I will only get samples from there cause its such a small thing which is easy to hide.

And especially by rumors of LAME packaging. It's like wtf. Just being a vendor from neth is wtf. It just SCREAMS "I'm using this country for my selling point". I rather by pure mdma from tony.

TONY IS THE MAN!

Im sorry but could you sound like an stereotypical more arrogant american if you could find one, seriously? "The Drugs arent that good", sir the state of MDMA in the USA is absolutely DIRE. If there was no NL vendors there would be literally no where to get good pills from, 90mg pills in USA are classed as "high dosed, reall good balls man, fire", what just because they have actual MDMA in them?

Have some respect, im sure some vendors try there best, but if there is a vendor taking 15+ orders a day, its hard to try and spend half an hour packaging this one persons drugs who ordered from some anti drug crazed country like america, its not Netherlands fault man its your own. A lot of new vendors just dont bother with the hassle any more and theyve stopped shipping to USA, why? Because its not worth it with your customs, sucks for you yes but what can you do?

AAkovens packaging was some of the most ingenious ive ever seen, and thats to a UK vendor, obviously packaging also costs money, depening on the way you do it.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: PBucket on February 23, 2012, 01:48 am
Well I'm not a big mdma so I'm chill brah. I order int everywhere but there and I'm really fine with not still.

They have the same shit as everyone else man. Its just the "netherlands"!

Don't need lab testing when peoples reviews are fine. I hear a couple even lie about dosage. I'm sure gonna respect that   ::)
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: tordemon on February 23, 2012, 07:17 pm
Yeah fuck the netherlands. There drugs arn't that good. Like seriously fuck that shit. I will only get samples from there cause its such a small thing which is easy to hide.

And especially by rumors of LAME packaging. It's like wtf. Just being a vendor from neth is wtf. It just SCREAMS "I'm using this country for my selling point". I rather by pure mdma from tony.

TONY IS THE MAN!

Im sorry but could you sound like an stereotypical more arrogant american if you could find one, seriously? "The Drugs arent that good", sir the state of MDMA in the USA is absolutely DIRE. If there was no NL vendors there would be literally no where to get good pills from, 90mg pills in USA are classed as "high dosed, reall good balls man, fire", what just because they have actual MDMA in them?

Have some respect, im sure some vendors try there best, but if there is a vendor taking 15+ orders a day, its hard to try and spend half an hour packaging this one persons drugs who ordered from some anti drug crazed country like america, its not Netherlands fault man its your own. A lot of new vendors just dont bother with the hassle any more and theyve stopped shipping to USA, why? Because its not worth it with your customs, sucks for you yes but what can you do?

AAkovens packaging was some of the most ingenious ive ever seen, and thats to a UK vendor, obviously packaging also costs money, depening on the way you do it.
It does NOT take that long to disguise a package. I've shipped a few things before, and it takes maybe an extra minute to package it better so that there's a higher chance of receiving it. The vendors who pack well get repeat customers, and most of those that pack poorly have not gotten a second order from me. If you do the math, it's more than worth it to package well.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: kuwahara on February 23, 2012, 11:57 pm
Vendors from NL shipping internationally should upgrade their packaging.  Fucking DRAmsterdam still can't even ship cid.
  I ordered from him no problems.  I am in UK though - are a lot of you having probs from Holland to America?
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: tordemon on February 24, 2012, 03:00 am
Vendors from NL shipping internationally should upgrade their packaging.  Fucking DRAmsterdam still can't even ship cid.
  I ordered from him no problems.  I am in UK though - are a lot of you having probs from Holland to America?
I didn't personally. I thought it should have been better for an international package, but he was honestly probably #3 or #4 out of the 10 packages I've gotten. Less an honor for him and more a dishonor for Netherlands vendors in general.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: Spedly on February 24, 2012, 04:00 am
I've placed one order with a vendor from the Netherlands. The packaging was good. Not great, but good. What concerned me though was that there was a hole in my package, certainly big enough for a finger. I don't know if it happened because of an accident or due to customs but it was a little disconcerting.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: Scuba Steve on February 24, 2012, 04:03 am
I've placed one order with a vendor from the Netherlands. The packaging was good. Not great, but good. What concerned me though was that there was a hole in my package, certainly big enough for a finger. I don't know if it happened because of an accident or due to customs but it was a little disconcerting.

I've read that customs will do this some times.

I'm 0/1 on packages from NL.  I don't plan on trying again for a long time.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: White Light on February 24, 2012, 05:14 pm

They have the same shit as everyone else man. Its just the "netherlands"!


That's wrong :  they do have better shit than anywhere else. They create new varieties of weed every months, they have labs to test freely every kind of drugs, they produce the best synthetic drugs and Holland is the number one place for bulk trading of drugs in Europe (hash, coke, H...). So yes, they have better drugs than in most of places in the world, that's a fact.

WL
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: tordemon on February 24, 2012, 06:56 pm

They have the same shit as everyone else man. Its just the "netherlands"!


That's wrong :  they do have better shit than anywhere else. They create new varieties of weed every months, they have labs to test freely every kind of drugs, they produce the best synthetic drugs and Holland is the number one place for bulk trading of drugs in Europe (hash, coke, H...). So yes, they have better drugs than in most of places in the world, that's a fact.

WL
Only part of that that I felt was valid was the lab-testing. The fact that anybody can have their drugs tested means that vendors in the Netherlands have much higher accountability. Anybody who thinks they've been given bad drugs can go get them tested very easily. This will likely lead to higher drug quality, as vendors with poor quality over there will lose customers more quickly. Don't overestimate the quality there, though.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: tallgz28 on February 25, 2012, 09:11 pm
Just to chime in with my .02...

Im 1/1 from NL, though I instantly started to worry after i submitted.  ChemBros got me my goods in 5 days to the western US in a great package.  Customs had slit the fn side of the envelope to snoop and they spotted nada!

A+++

Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: Locrian on February 25, 2012, 11:03 pm
Both aakoven and Mitanox's packaging were great when I ordered from them (aakoven used to ship to the states, and I thought he had started back?).  Amsterdamgoods was a bit lacking, but he has since listened to people's feedback about it and changed things up.

There are some Netherlands vendors who do a great job with shipping, and some who don't.  If you're frightened about it, you can always start a thread and ask about other peoples' experiences.  Do some research.

Instead of, you know, just ordering blindly from whoever catches your eye, and then starting a thread to scold them for their shoddy practices later.  Which I'm sure no one here would ever do!
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: MailMaxDev on February 26, 2012, 03:39 am
1/1 from Netherlands. Aakovens packaging was good.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: tordemon on February 26, 2012, 05:05 am
Both aakoven and Mitanox's packaging were great when I ordered from them (aakoven used to ship to the states, and I thought he had started back?).  Amsterdamgoods was a bit lacking, but he has since listened to people's feedback about it and changed things up.

There are some Netherlands vendors who do a great job with shipping, and some who don't.  If you're frightened about it, you can always start a thread and ask about other peoples' experiences.  Do some research.

Instead of, you know, just ordering blindly from whoever catches your eye, and then starting a thread to scold them for their shoddy practices later.  Which I'm sure no one here would ever do!
Haha, I mean, I most certainly did research them; I think perhaps others have lower standards for packaging, though. I'm 10/11 on Netherlands shipments so far, but I think I'm god-awfully lucky to be so high on that. The way they were packaged, some of them DESERVED to be intercepted.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: kolom0nster on February 27, 2012, 01:01 am
I actually agree with OP.  Being new to SR I read all the reviews about NL vendors having limited success shipping to the US.  It seemed reasonable that customs was especially strict on packages coming from NL due to it's reputation.  After having been around a while and doing most of my transactions with NL vendors(good MDMA is the only thing I can't buy locally) I've come to realize that the success rate has little to do with the country of origin and much more to do with Poor shipping practice.  Given the high scrutiny of packages I'm amazed how many NL vendors just throw a baggies in an envelope and ship it off with mo special precautions. 

There are a few NL vendors that actually try(mitanox and aakoven come to mind) and I've had 100% success from them. 

I no longer subscribe to the idea that "NL transactions are risky" and totally subscribe to the fact that many of them are flat out terrible at shipping.  It's all about the vendor, not the country.

I've ordered several domestic US packages with amazing shipping methods and can't believe that some international vendors are so much worse, especially given the additional scrutiny from customs.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: Angelology on February 27, 2012, 01:51 am
Netherlands is a big nono.

Everything coming out of that country is flagged.

>.<

I don't think you even read my post. I already know that that's the "common knowledge" on the topic.
I read it. There shipping methods are irrelevant, as everything out of there is autoflagged.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: ShepardCommander on February 28, 2012, 01:43 pm
1/1 from Netherlands. Ordered acid from freedompeople. Packaging was nice. Not perfect, but very nice. Vacuum sealing and no ability to find drugs without getting envelope destroyed.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: dr gonzo on February 28, 2012, 11:54 pm
SKKY's is best packaging I've seen by far.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: puremdma on February 29, 2012, 12:18 am
I AM NEW HERE  and can believe what im reading i get shipments nl to uk 3 times a week and the fforei  the pckaging is amazing he is not on here but i thought evryone shipped like this i ship whith extrene care uk-uk. I was going to order now im very worried bout it,
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: ginnz on February 29, 2012, 11:38 pm
Awww Damn! I was just going through the H at SR, and seen some NL vendors claiming ultra high quality H at 1/2 or less than (Canadian) prices! :-)

And being from Canada, ive never ordered from outside of N.A, and was about to come to the forums to ask about ordering from N.L, as id like to try it, and the price! well, its soooo much cheaper, but after reading this whole thread, i think i'll stick with the home turf!
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: caffeine_me on March 01, 2012, 07:21 am
I'm to the point I won't list my numbers of success or vendors, but out of my 8-9 months of ordering only two have no showed.  One from the NL (Others have complained of poor packaging, I was stupid) and one surprisingly from a well known Germany vendor. 

Study the forums, and you will see there are some NL vendors that are very good and you have a great chance of getting the best drugs on the planet delivered right to your door (or your local drop in a box).

I will also add, out of hash (Mostly from NL), MDMA (Almost exclusively NL), weed, Ketamine, Cocaine, Benzo's, DMT..........the only thing (two packages) that I have problems getting is fucking speed :o
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: thisaintme on March 01, 2012, 09:07 pm
One of the well packing vendors mentioned in this topic sent me a "not so well" -concealed letter some time ago. I got just an envelope with two bags of speed, not vacuumed, not hidden, not anything. Other bag“s zipper was also a little open so the envelope was filled with bare A :). But still I received it. To Finland 8)

Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: imprint on March 01, 2012, 11:25 pm
i had some deliveries from the nl in 11-12/2011 and all came through, but i have to add, that the vendors packaging skillz were outstanding. you couldn't even open the parcel without ruining it, haha...  ;)
now, i've ordered some phet from aakoven, who left the best impression at me, from all the other dutch vendors, who are selling amphetamine... i'm pretty sure, that it will show up without problems!  :) ... by the way i'm from "mid-europe"...
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: napsterspy on March 02, 2012, 08:01 pm
i just received a package from Skyy to scandinavia. Totally satisfied , took 2 days, package is great , just need to test quality but i pretty sure its great stuff !!
I hope more vendors use their creativity to find a special package for their shipping :)
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: Tranzshipper on March 03, 2012, 04:20 am
Netherlands is a big nono.

Everything coming out of that country is flagged.

>.<

I don't think you even read my post. I already know that that's the "common knowledge" on the topic.
I read it. There shipping methods are irrelevant, as everything out of there is autoflagged.

if packing really good they can xray it, keep in hands, run on swabs , found nothing  and get it cleared. if packing OK it will go to any country from any country.

another problem here have to be recognized is the use of bad name, bad address and it is relevant to SR community in much higher degree, compare to if some one ships to private clients only.

first someone can order shipment with packing from some one, it sized and address flagged, later pack with very discrete packing,  sent to same address and sized too.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: krut on March 03, 2012, 02:25 pm
i just received a package from Skyy to scandinavia. Totally satisfied , took 2 days, package is great , just need to test quality but i pretty sure its great stuff !!
I hope more vendors use their creativity to find a special package for their shipping :)

Haha, reading posts like this makes me want to order from SKYY just to see how he packages his stuff.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: riddikulus on March 06, 2012, 06:06 am
NL is fine if your vendor know what they're doing. I'm 3/3 on NL this past 2 weeks... all because of quality of packaging.

One package was even inspected by customs and they didn't find anything.

QUALITY VENDORS!
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: genial on March 06, 2012, 06:30 pm
This is frustrating...
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: kushberrymuffins on March 06, 2012, 06:37 pm
I've gotten stuff from the Netherlands. It all depends on the vendor and how well they hide the product in the packaging.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: baxterbrew on March 10, 2012, 02:17 am
Netherlands is fine. I have placed at least 30 orders from there and my only problem was DQB (surprise surprise).  Just make sure that you trust your vendor and cross your fingers.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: River on March 10, 2012, 03:29 am
Read my post here - http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=14812.0

My "friend of a friend of a friend" has evidence of customs giving packages from Amsterdam coming into his country extra scrutiny, and caused him to get caught.

Don't risk it.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: 2513415 on March 10, 2012, 11:03 am
I have ordered from 5 different NL vendor's and only two have come through... All of them were rated very high as well... not sure what is going on but it sucks, money is not the issue, i just want the product... I would pay more for some kind of DCN etc etc... tired of ordering and waiting 40 days and nothing comes then I am out the product... screw the money, I want the product...I wish the USA would have better reliable connects , they would make a killing!
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: krut on March 10, 2012, 02:43 pm
Received my order from Chemical Brothers from NL to Scandinavia without problems, good packaging in this case as well. I never order stuff to my own address though.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: imprint on April 08, 2012, 09:16 pm
... received 2x times from aakoven and 1x time from skyy (one order, two packages) within the last months - ...
no problems at all, but i've to say, that skyy's packaging was over the top!
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: PePinJeNek on April 09, 2012, 08:39 am
Yeah fuck the netherlands. There drugs arn't that good. Like seriously fuck that shit. I will only get samples from there cause its such a small thing which is easy to hide.

And especially by rumors of LAME packaging. It's like wtf. Just being a vendor from neth is wtf. It just SCREAMS "I'm using this country for my selling point". I rather by pure mdma from tony.

TONY IS THE MAN!

Im sorry but could you sound like an stereotypical more arrogant american if you could find one, seriously? "The Drugs arent that good", sir the state of MDMA in the USA is absolutely DIRE. If there was no NL vendors there would be literally no where to get good pills from, 90mg pills in USA are classed as "high dosed, reall good balls man, fire", what just because they have actual MDMA in them?

Have some respect, im sure some vendors try there best, but if there is a vendor taking 15+ orders a day, its hard to try and spend half an hour packaging this one persons drugs who ordered from some anti drug crazed country like america, its not Netherlands fault man its your own. A lot of new vendors just dont bother with the hassle any more and theyve stopped shipping to USA, why? Because its not worth it with your customs, sucks for you yes but what can you do?

AAkovens packaging was some of the most ingenious ive ever seen, and thats to a UK vendor, obviously packaging also costs money, depening on the way you do it.

100% agreed!

We have the best quality drugs in the world.!


Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: tan on April 09, 2012, 11:18 pm
I agree with the OP that the (NL) vendors could do a better job with packaging. To me it looks more like carelessness than anything else. It does not take an enormous effort to make the deliveries less suspicious, just the right mindset and the willingness to provide the safest possible packaging would go a long way.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: PuppetMaster on April 10, 2012, 04:57 am
Just want to add my 2 cents:

Although I am new to SR, 10 years ago I found a source for weed on another online forum, from netherlands. I live in the USA. I used this source on and off for about 3 years, and received every package, definitely a fair amount. The packaging was very discreet, with several measures used to ensure it got to me.  So I definitely agree with the idea that packaging is very important, and if done properly, there should be a pretty high rate of successful deliviries.

Secondly, many of the replies in this thread are from people receiving packages from the Netherlands, but the destination is outside of the USA.

I want to add for those that don't know (most in the US probably do, but some outside of the USA might not) that the security measures are higher here in the US. U.S. customs can be a bitch when they want too....especially for anything coming from Netherlands or other 'suspect' areas.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: TheEnema on April 24, 2012, 10:34 pm
Hey, newbie here, and I have a quick question about The Netherlands:

Why do I see some sellers, located in The Netherlands, not shipping to The Netherlands? If anything, it would be easier to domestically send the packages, right?
Can someone explain to me why someone would ship to almost everywhere in the world, except the country where he's currently located?
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: Bordermolethesecond on April 25, 2012, 08:22 pm
Hey, newbie here, and I have a quick question about The Netherlands:

Why do I see some sellers, located in The Netherlands, not shipping to The Netherlands? If anything, it would be easier to domestically send the packages, right?
Can someone explain to me why someone would ship to almost everywhere in the world, except the country where he's currently located?

1) Too competitive for it to be worthwhile, if you dont know someone local in NL you have never left your house.
2) Don't sh1t where you eat - a tracked domestic package could be followed up.
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: mastic on April 26, 2012, 12:54 am
Yes NL is fine for NL to EU i can confirm that with more than 21 orders without problems.

I can say despite the comment of someone on the fist page that the best drugs of the black market are coming from NL for the most of it.

Since i know SR the best came from NL for me:
MDMA - complete clear shards of mdma from DrAmsterdam
Cocaine - Pure raw from Noriega
Hash - Incredible 00 from Dutchshop and pure yellow polm from Djabbar
LSD - Avatar's tab from Mitanox, very clean LSD
and many other i forgot, the lab tests are great too in this country,

Hands down on NL dope! Best are there for sure!

To BorderMolethesecond: Yes lol, i'm not from NL be been there plenty of times and i can say it is the land of drugs, that's crazy!!! Each time you walk in the streets there you have someone that offer you coke, mdma and so on, they insist a lot for you to buy lol
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: maxhavelaar on April 26, 2012, 09:45 am
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cheers, max
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: TheEnema on April 26, 2012, 05:23 pm
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1) Too competitive for it to be worthwhile, if you dont know someone local in NL you have never left your house.
2) Don't sh1t where you eat - a tracked domestic package could be followed up.
The second makes a lot of sense now >_>
But the first... Having local connections is fine, but the quality is usually... shit? when compared to stuff you can order online. Online you're also able to read reviews about people using the same vendor instead of hearing shady "this guy said this other guy blabla..." stories. I find ordering online seems a lot more convenient than using local connections, even if present.
Am I the only one in this?
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: Bamann on April 26, 2012, 06:09 pm
I've had quite a bit of good luck ordering from the Netherlands.  Got an order from c63amg a few days ago and the packaging was brilliant.  I honestly threw it out as junk mail before I realized what happened and had to go back and find it.   :o
Title: Re: Netherlands
Post by: LT89 on May 07, 2012, 01:04 am
As has been said, the Netherlands has by far the purest and largest range of drugs in the world, it beats a sucky country like the US hands down (the only exception are pharms, which aren't as hot in NL as in the US). The few Americans bashing the Netherlands obviously have some kind of pathological reasons why they are doing it, none of which are based in the slightest way on reason.

How the packaging of some vendors is, I can't say, but it was only 1-2 months ago that SR was mentioned in Dutch media for the first time and it wouldn't surprise me much that since then a lot of Dutch vendors popped up, some having done more transactions (and thus experience with dodging foreign customs services) or just having more ingenuity in the way they pack. If properly done it doesn't matter what country a package is from, it would pass any customs. Just give some of the newer vendors the time to adjust and they will increase their packing skills, if you're not satisfied let them know so they can improve, and also take some effort yourself by actively looking through the forums and vendor reviews to see who does a good job at packing and who doesn't.