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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: iDialt on August 11, 2012, 05:41 am

Title: Question about Mephedrone
Post by: iDialt on August 11, 2012, 05:41 am
I was just wondering,

Why is it that pre-ban Mephedrone was better and more potent than the Mephedrone that's being made now?  :o

-iDialt
Title: Re: Question about Mephedrone
Post by: mrguymann on August 11, 2012, 05:42 pm
I would think its because the sources you could get meph from were legit- thus  the product was laboratory grade chems. Now the sources are maybe a bit more shady. Shady buisnesses do shady things sometimes like cut product , or cut corners in production.
Title: Re: Question about Mephedrone
Post by: Limetless on August 11, 2012, 05:43 pm
I was just wondering,

Why is it that pre-ban Mephedrone was better and more potent than the Mephedrone that's being made now?  :o

-iDialt

Best answer to this is "It's complicated"
Title: Re: Question about Mephedrone
Post by: mrguymann on August 11, 2012, 10:30 pm
Blame your Government.
Title: Re: Question about Mephedrone
Post by: JForce on August 12, 2012, 04:35 am
I would think its because the sources you could get meph from were legit- thus  the product was laboratory grade chems. Now the sources are maybe a bit more shady. Shady buisnesses do shady things sometimes like cut product , or cut corners in production.

I would of thought of this too.. I'm not sure myself. Sometimes people just say pre-ban to try make thier product sound more impressive.
Title: Re: Question about Mephedrone
Post by: Limetless on August 12, 2012, 04:56 am
I would think its because the sources you could get meph from were legit- thus  the product was laboratory grade chems. Now the sources are maybe a bit more shady. Shady buisnesses do shady things sometimes like cut product , or cut corners in production.

I would of thought of this too.. I'm not sure myself. Sometimes people just say pre-ban to try make thier product sound more impressive.

Nah you are incorrect.
Title: Re: Question about Mephedrone
Post by: JForce on August 12, 2012, 05:31 am
I would think its because the sources you could get meph from were legit- thus  the product was laboratory grade chems. Now the sources are maybe a bit more shady. Shady buisnesses do shady things sometimes like cut product , or cut corners in production.

I would of thought of this too.. I'm not sure myself. Sometimes people just say pre-ban to try make thier product sound more impressive.

Nah you are incorrect.

I "know" for a fact certain people say pre-ban to make their product sound more impressive or potent as I know people that have done it (not that I condone doing so). As I said before, I'm not sure the specific reason why actual pre-ban products are more potent.

Maybe you can enlighten us on this seeing as you seem quite intelligent when it comes to the making of drugs as I've previously read elsewhere on the forums that you will be supposedly releasing your own ketamine :)
Title: Re: Question about Mephedrone
Post by: Limetless on August 12, 2012, 05:44 am
You are correct, the K is getting done as we type haha. However I am not a chemist and I don't pretend to be one, I just know bits that I pick up from the people I work with.

Anyway it is certainly not impossible to get pre-ban quality, far from it. The batches we are doing now will all be Indian-Rice crystal. There are a lot of reasons why it's been so hard to get pre-ban and they range from fake product, cutting or not getting the right isomers/racemic mixture.

Title: Re: Question about Mephedrone
Post by: duhwinning69 on August 13, 2012, 04:46 am
I was just wondering,

Why is it that pre-ban Mephedrone was better and more potent than the Mephedrone that's being made now?  :o

-iDialt
For a good while it was hard to get the right answers from anyone. I seeked your question & went through a lot of hardship before finally finding out why the pre ban 4mmc I was introduced with never matched anything else there after.
The answer is the China chemist were leaving some pre-cursers in the batches of prodcut they were making instead of washing them out.
They were making more money this way & didn't lose any product. This made the mephedrone more toxic but by not washing the pre-cursors out but it was more potent this way. I noticed the pre ban drone left your mouth chewed up & tongue blistered from being toxic. The drone I've tried so far this year has been more clean & not as toxic but also more mild in potency. I've heard this is because it's more Indian manufactured now & their wanting to synth the product the right way & for it to be more clean.

 

So with that being said, it also came down to how well a chemist made their product period! Same as any other drug.
Anyone else agree?. 
Title: Re: Question about Mephedrone
Post by: Limetless on August 13, 2012, 04:48 am
I was just wondering,

Why is it that pre-ban Mephedrone was better and more potent than the Mephedrone that's being made now?  :o

-iDialt
For a good while it was hard to get the right answers from anyone. I seeked your question & went through a lot of hardship before finally finding out why the pre ban 4mmc I was introduced with never matched anything else there after.
The answer is the China chemist were leaving the some pre-cursers in  the batches instead of washing them out.
They were making more money this way & didn'y lose any product. This made the mephedrone more toxic but by not washing the pre-cursor out it was more potent.

So with that being said, it also came down to how well a chemist made their product period! Same as any other drug.
Anyone else agree?.

Yes this is correct. You must have done a shit ton of digging to find that out, fair play. :)
Title: Re: Question about Mephedrone
Post by: duhwinning69 on August 13, 2012, 05:10 am
I was just wondering,

Why is it that pre-ban Mephedrone was better and more potent than the Mephedrone that's being made now?  :o

-iDialt
For a good while it was hard to get the right answers from anyone. I seeked your question & went through a lot of hardship before finally finding out why the pre ban 4mmc I was introduced with never matched anything else there after.
The answer is the China chemist were leaving the some pre-cursers in  the batches instead of washing them out.
They were making more money this way & didn'y lose any product. This made the mephedrone more toxic but by not washing the pre-cursor out it was more potent.

So with that being said, it also came down to how well a chemist made their product period! Same as any other drug.
Anyone else agree?.

Yes this is correct. You must have done a shit ton of digging to find that out, fair play. :)
A lot of digging for the truth.
Title: Re: Question about Mephedrone
Post by: Limetless on August 13, 2012, 05:14 am
I was just wondering,

Why is it that pre-ban Mephedrone was better and more potent than the Mephedrone that's being made now?  :o

-iDialt
For a good while it was hard to get the right answers from anyone. I seeked your question & went through a lot of hardship before finally finding out why the pre ban 4mmc I was introduced with never matched anything else there after.
The answer is the China chemist were leaving the some pre-cursers in  the batches instead of washing them out.
They were making more money this way & didn'y lose any product. This made the mephedrone more toxic but by not washing the pre-cursor out it was more potent.

So with that being said, it also came down to how well a chemist made their product period! Same as any other drug.
Anyone else agree?.

Yes this is correct. You must have done a shit ton of digging to find that out, fair play. :)
A lot of digging for the truth.

Like I said, fair play. :)