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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: C4tul2us0seVT on October 26, 2012, 06:27 am
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Hello Roaders!
I have been looking for a psychedelic to try but recently I've been having a hard time with that.
I've had Salvia and loved it, but want a pill instead of having to smoke it.
I've had mescaline and loved it, but same problem as the Salvia.
I bought some blotters of 25-i Nbome and took one for the first time last week. It was awful. I felt nauseous and paranoid the whole time and went in and out of extreme hot/cold flashes. I also felt itchy and had watery eyes as well (like an allergic reaction) and had to take Benadryl to fall asleep since my heart rate was also way too fast.
I tried again with only half a blotter 8 days later and it was WAY worse. I had no visuals at all, projectile vomited and still had all the bad symptoms but with no trip whatsoever and included with the nausea I felt like I was having a nosebleed but instead of my nose it was inside my skull but there was nowhere for the blood to drain. Maybe aneurysm/hemorrhaging?
Either way it was a bad experience for my mind and body even though I was in a good setting and pleasant state of mind both times. Should I be worried? Would another chemical compound be safer or same damage, different experience? Should I mix it with MDMA or a prescription like Adderall? I really want to find something that will mellow/numb me out (like a prescription? as weed makes me paranoid for weeks) with some cool hallucinations and the euphoria feeling would be a super bonus.
Thank you all!
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Hello Roaders!
I have been looking for a psychedelic to try but recently I've been having a hard time with that.
I've had Salvia and loved it, but want a pill instead of having to smoke it.
I've had mescaline and loved it, but same problem as the Salvia.
I bought some blotters of 25-i Nbome and took one for the first time last week. It was awful. I felt nauseous and paranoid the whole time and went in and out of extreme hot/cold flashes. I also felt itchy and had watery eyes as well (like an allergic reaction) and had to take Benadryl to fall asleep since my heart rate was also way too fast.
I tried again with only half a blotter 8 days later and it was WAY worse. I had no visuals at all, projectile vomited and still had all the bad symptoms but with no trip whatsoever and included with the nausea I felt like I was having a nosebleed but instead of my nose it was inside my skull but there was nowhere for the blood to drain. Maybe aneurysm/hemorrhaging?
Either way it was a bad experience for my mind and body even though I was in a good setting and pleasant state of mind both times. Should I be worried? Would another chemical compound be safer or same damage, different experience? Should I mix it with MDMA or a prescription like Adderall? I really want to find something that will mellow/numb me out (like a prescription? as weed makes me paranoid for weeks) with some cool hallucinations and the euphoria feeling would be a super bonus.
Thank you all!
Just get rid of the 25I-NBOMe you have, it doesn't agree with you. Don't mix it with things!
Try some 4-AcO-DMT or 4-AcO-DET, or shrooms, 4-HO-DIPT, or maybe even 2C-B. Those are all much easier on the body and heart.
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25i is a research chemical that can react in many different ways. I tried 2mg, and it was just horrible for me... I mean, I loved the effects, but the body load, locked jaw, and chest pains were just so severe. I don't like it.
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25i is a research chemical that can react in many different ways. I tried 2mg, and it was just horrible for me... I mean, I loved the effects, but the body load, locked jaw, and chest pains were just so severe. I don't like it.
If you have not done 25i before it's pretty dumb to take 2 mg the first time, new NBOMe user's should start with 550µg doses and when tolerance build up you can go with higher doses progressively, 550µg is a good trip when you start with that chemical. If you don't know a drug you don't start with higher doses the first time you use them, it's basic harm reduction knowledge.
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I did a 1200ug tab from TheGrandWizard and had a great time. I guess everyone's different.
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If I were you I would avoid the nbomes from now on. It sounds like you didn't react well to them and since they're only research chemicals, not much is known about them. Sounds like LSD is right up your alley. Although make sure you're buying it from a trusted vendor since some jackasses try to pass off nbome as acid since they can both come on blotter paper.
I also stay away from nbomes myself. I've had my own bad experience on it and have heard too many horror stories. Plus they give me this strange sort of "toxic" feeling when I used to take them.
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Is there any data coming in on whether there is a LD50 for the NBOMes?
Erowid lists 25-50mg of 2C-B, 20-30mg of 2C-I, and 1.5mg of 25I (aka 2C-I-NBOMe) as "strong" (as in there's nothing above that) *oral* doses. Also has a warning up that 25I is now possibly being passed off as 2C-I. Seems like mixing these guys up could be pretty dangerous.
We're actually really curious as to the sudden surge in RC interest. Is it that people are actually bored with acid, mushrooms, and/or cactus and dmt? Are they not available in their area (although it seems like ordering mescaline-containing cacti would always be an option)? Simple curiosity?
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My question is, are you sure it was 25i-NBOMe? Did you get it from a trusted source?
There is also the possibility that someone made a mistake at some point, and the potency was far too strong, or that it was the wrong chemical entirely.
You should try to order say 10 more tabs of 25i from a very reputable dealer, and try say half of one to start off with, if you still have a bad reaction, I would say you might have some allergy or hypersensitivity, and you should steer away from such chemicals.
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some people react poorly to nbome - imo you should avoid it from now on and just go for lsd from a reputable vendor which has a proven safety record and most people tolerate very well
its not likely to pass off something else as nbome - given that nbome is not generally in that high of demand nor does it go for a very high price, one is much more likely to attempt to buy lsd and get nbome for example. this is why reagent test is very smart
also i dont understand why you said you tried mescaline but it had the same problem as salvia which you didnt want to have to smoke ?
it is extremely rare to smoke mescaline which is almost always taken orally - in fairly high doses compared to most psychedelics, so it seems it was not likely to be mescaline if you smoked it ???
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just because your body reacted one way - certainly does not mean someone else's will
everyone has different reactions to all drugs
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I seriously do not recommend 25i-nbome I have had 3 seizures from this drug and many experiences (im a bit of a nutter) i would say out of 7 experiences 2 have been good and two have ended with me on the floor having a fit for around an hour at a time. I Overdosed from 25i on saturday from 2 tabs and i can honestly say its the worst experience of my life. I was paranoid, scared, sick, chest pains, didnt know what was happening, i had a seizure which lasted over 35 minutes. Honestly i have tried the 25i-nbome and 25c-nbome chemicals a few times and do have some experience with them. Hope my message can help you out :) if you have any questions feel free to message me and i will get back to you as soon as possible :).
If you do decide to take Nbome enjoy :) i know it can be an amazing trip however in small doses, i find the larger the dose the more uncomfortable and worrying it gets.
CJ
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i got so high on 2 hits that i was delirious, than blacked out for 6 hours... scary. now i see it has killed multiple people. use 25inbome at your own risk.
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i got so high on 2 hits that i was delirious, than blacked out for 6 hours... scary. now i see it has killed multiple people. use 25inbome at your own risk.
Well said, personally i feel if you wish to hallucinate and have psychedelic experiences then stick to good old LSD or Mushrooms. At least there doesn't seem to be people getting hurt from LSD whereas there are lots of 25-i/b/c/d-nbome related overdoses and even a few deaths from small doses. So yeah i agree take nbome at your own risk, good luck :)
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i got so high on 2 hits that i was delirious, than blacked out for 6 hours... scary. now i see it has killed multiple people. use 25inbome at your own risk.
Well said, personally i feel if you wish to hallucinate and have psychedelic experiences then stick to good old LSD or Mushrooms. At least there doesn't seem to be people getting hurt from LSD whereas there are lots of 25-i/b/c/d-nbome related overdoses and even a few deaths from small doses. So yeah i agree take nbome at your own risk, good luck :)
once again FUCK NBOME these things are fucking worthless OP couldn't have put it any clearer stick to what you know the profit isn't worth sitting in jail but for all you greedy bastards out there you deserve where you are going to end up once again FUCK NBOME spend the extra and get some real shit trust me your customers will thank you and come back
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I took 25i nbome once and found it average at best, yes the visuals were insane but the nausea was bad.. After taking this as my first ever RC in many years of using recreational drugs ive decided not to bother with RC's and stick to the old favourites... I took 2 x 550ug blotters on my gum and it burns like hell. I wouldnt recommend :-[
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i got so high on 2 hits that i was delirious, than blacked out for 6 hours... scary. now i see it has killed multiple people. use 25inbome at your own risk.
Well said, personally i feel if you wish to hallucinate and have psychedelic experiences then stick to good old LSD or Mushrooms. At least there doesn't seem to be people getting hurt from LSD whereas there are lots of 25-i/b/c/d-nbome related overdoses and even a few deaths from small doses. So yeah i agree take nbome at your own risk, good luck :)
once again FUCK NBOME these things are fucking worthless OP couldn't have put it any clearer stick to what you know the profit isn't worth sitting in jail but for all you greedy bastards out there you deserve where you are going to end up once again FUCK NBOME spend the extra and get some real shit trust me your customers will thank you and come back
Well Said :)
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some people react poorly to nbome - imo you should avoid it from now on and just go for lsd from a reputable vendor which has a proven safety record and most people tolerate very well
I take back what I said about psyops.. a financial motive on your part is far more likely in view of this post.
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I tried 25cNbome and I got bells palsy soon after. Bells palsy is a condition in which one side of your face goes completely paralyzed (can't blink or smile, nothing). I've had it for a month now. I don't know if it was the nbome but I'm sure as hell not doing it again.
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Thank you so much everybody. I got the blotters of 25i nbomes from HardHustle and he's got great ratings. I want to try mushrooms, LSD and some straight mescaline but everything I see on the road is sold in bulk and I don't know anyone to give my extras to, and I'm not made of money either. If anyone could give me ideas on what to take for a psychedelic, euphoric, mellow experience let me know! Prescription ideas are welcome as well (and if you're a vendor and want to help me with a custom order I would be most appreciative since I really don't want to buy in bulk).
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It sounds like you would enjoy 2C-B.
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I'm a big fan of 2-CB!
It's pretty widely available on the road in personal use quantities (100mg/250mg) and is relatively inexpensive. Doses range from 10-20mg, but the experience ramps up considerably once you pass 20mg, so I would recommend pre-dosed caps or pills to be on the safe side.
I like the visuals, and it has pretty amazing synergy with both mdma and cannabis. It is a bit vanilla in that you won't necessarily work through mental / body issues in the same way as one might with acid or mushrooms. Its more of a pure recreation / fun type thing.
This is personal preference though, I've got what I needed from LSD, and mushrooms are still really fun.
As I'm sure you know, a trip to Erowid to read up on all of this is pretty much mandatory.
Good luck with your experiments, and stay safe!
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DON'T EVER GIVE ANYONE NBOMS, this is really a stupid idea, i gave my friend some nbomes, he do 2mg each 1 week for 1 month, now he's at hospital, non responsive, blacking out from time to time, can't recognize people, talking random words. this is REALLY scary and his health is really fucked up. plz plz plz. am writing this to warn you all about the danger of this shit.
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Yeah I do agree everyone should take it easy on the NBOMes. Honestly I love the stuff. I've been using NBOMe's for over a year now and I just love it. I'm into LSD and mushrooms too but this past year nbome's have been my thing. NBOMe is just my prefered psychedelic at this time in my life. I just hope I don't die, but fuck it aye!