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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: colasurfer on September 30, 2011, 05:22 pm
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So I have tried several different batches of coke, and all seem to be pretty good. Came across one recently though that burned the hell out of my nose, not at first, but after a while I had clear drip from my nose and had this horrible pain throughout my nasal cavity. It was so bad that my eyes were tearing so bad and the pain was nearly unbearable. This lasted for about 15 minutes and then all of a sudden stopped. Euphoria etc seemed fine though. Anyone have a clue as to what the fuck is causing this? When going back to the other stuff after this painful shit there is no painful stinging at all. I assume that it's whatever the coke is cut with, but have no idea what it would be. This was stuff I got from Tetravort a few weeks ago, but I thought his stuff was supposed to be great.
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Hard to say. Could be speed or meth, both of which can give a nice teary-eyed burn.
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Its hard to say, Jimmy has a good point about speed or meth both of which sting when snorted. Most likely a bad cut. Do you pick your nose? hahah, a raw nose can also cause that sting for a short period.
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Its hard to say, Jimmy has a good point about speed or meth both of which sting when snorted. Most likely a bad cut. Do you pick your nose? hahah, a raw nose can also cause that sting for a short period.
The horrible stinging does not happen instantly, a wee little sting right at time of snort, but a while later the real horrible pain begins. Also, nose was fresh when tried 100mg line of Tetravorts stuff when stinging happened, had 100mg of another vendors fish scale about 1/2 hour later and no pain at all. I have an idea that it could be speed or meth because it does cause a case of small cock that I do not get with the other vendors stuff.
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Its hard to say, Jimmy has a good point about speed or meth both of which sting when snorted. Most likely a bad cut. Do you pick your nose? hahah, a raw nose can also cause that sting for a short period.
The horrible stinging does not happen instantly, a wee little sting right at time of snort, but a while later the real horrible pain begins. Also, nose was fresh when tried 100mg line of Tetravorts stuff when stinging happened, had 100mg of another vendors fish scale about 1/2 hour later and no pain at all. I have an idea that it could be speed or meth because it does cause a case of small cock that I do not get with the other vendors stuff.
I call bullshit.This is another vendor trying to sully Tet's rep.
Tet's product is of high quality and has never burned.
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Its hard to say, Jimmy has a good point about speed or meth both of which sting when snorted. Most likely a bad cut. Do you pick your nose? hahah, a raw nose can also cause that sting for a short period.
The horrible stinging does not happen instantly, a wee little sting right at time of snort, but a while later the real horrible pain begins. Also, nose was fresh when tried 100mg line of Tetravorts stuff when stinging happened, had 100mg of another vendors fish scale about 1/2 hour later and no pain at all. I have an idea that it could be speed or meth because it does cause a case of small cock that I do not get with the other vendors stuff.
I call bullshit.This is another vendor trying to sully Tet's rep.
Tet's product is of high quality and has never burned.
Absolutely not another vendor, in fact I do not have a huge experience with coke, only have touched the stuff over the last three months. I know Tetravort's stuff is supposed to be great and was trying to find out if anyone else had experienced this. Maybe it's a poor batch that simply slipped by his quality control and I would completely understand if it was. By no means should anyone take this as a reflection of TV's product quality or make this a deciding factor on whether or not to buy from him. In fact I would encourage anyone who wants coke to at least try a gram Tetravorts out as I believe he is ranked within the top 3 vendors.
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well, maybe I jumped the gun. Usually, when I see someone making statements like that
and they have 1 or 2 posts. It's someone playing sabotage. The only thing I've ever had burn
like a motherfucker in my nose was crank. If it was something like that, you would have felt
a pronounced speed high. especially from a line that big.
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well, maybe I jumped the gun. Usually, when I see someone making statements like that
and they have 1 or 2 posts. It's someone playing sabotage. The only thing I've ever had burn
like a motherfucker in my nose was crank. If it was something like that, you would have felt
a pronounced speed high. especially from a line that big.
Created another forum account for this post. Like to keep a low profile.
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After this post, I decided to check tetravot's coke with marquis reagent to test for the potential presence of amphetamine/methamphetamine. It turns marquis reagent orange, indicating that the sample I tested is positive for the presence of amphetamine/methamphetamine. According to this source (CLEARLINK hxxp://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/drug-profiles/cocaine), "The Marquis field test does not form a coloured product with cocaine."
To be clear, what I'm saying is that it appears, based on this experiment, that tetravort's coke is cut with some amount of meth. :o
Now, I want to state a few things: 1) tetravort is a great vendor, I would buy from him anytime. 2) I have not tried this coke yet, so I can't confirm or deny that it burns. 3) Not picking on tetravort -- it just happens to be the only SR coke I had available to test ATM and since his price is higher than most, some extra scrutiny is warranted, IMO. 4) This information is as much for tetravort himself as anyone else. 5) This experiment is repeatable, so others can confirm or dispute my results.
I assure you, this will not stop me from enjoying his product this weekend. :P
tony
So I have tried several different batches of coke, and all seem to be pretty good. Came across one recently though that burned the hell out of my nose, not at first, but after a while I had clear drip from my nose and had this horrible pain throughout my nasal cavity. It was so bad that my eyes were tearing so bad and the pain was nearly unbearable. This lasted for about 15 minutes and then all of a sudden stopped. Euphoria etc seemed fine though. Anyone have a clue as to what the fuck is causing this? When going back to the other stuff after this painful shit there is no painful stinging at all. I assume that it's whatever the coke is cut with, but have no idea what it would be. This was stuff I got from Tetravort a few weeks ago, but I thought his stuff was supposed to be great.
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After this post, I decided to check tetravot's coke with marquis reagent to test for the potential presence of amphetamine/methamphetamine. It turns marquis reagent orange, indicating that the sample I tested is positive for the presence of amphetamine/methamphetamine. According to this source (CLEARLINK hxxp://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/drug-profiles/cocaine), "The Marquis field test does not form a coloured product with cocaine."
To be clear, what I'm saying is that it appears, based on this experiment, that tetravort's coke is cut with some amount of meth. :o
Now, I want to state a few things: 1) tetravort is a great vendor, I would buy from him anytime. 2) I have not tried this coke yet, so I can't confirm or deny that it burns. 3) Not picking on tetravort -- it just happens to be the only SR coke I had available to test ATM and since his price is higher than most, some extra scrutiny is warranted, IMO. 4) This information is as much for tetravort himself as anyone else. 5) This experiment is repeatable, so others can confirm or dispute my results.
I assure you, this will not stop me from enjoying his product this weekend. :P
tony
So I have tried several different batches of coke, and all seem to be pretty good. Came across one recently though that burned the hell out of my nose, not at first, but after a while I had clear drip from my nose and had this horrible pain throughout my nasal cavity. It was so bad that my eyes were tearing so bad and the pain was nearly unbearable. This lasted for about 15 minutes and then all of a sudden stopped. Euphoria etc seemed fine though. Anyone have a clue as to what the fuck is causing this? When going back to the other stuff after this painful shit there is no painful stinging at all. I assume that it's whatever the coke is cut with, but have no idea what it would be. This was stuff I got from Tetravort a few weeks ago, but I thought his stuff was supposed to be great.
Thanks, Tony. You should repost on the coke vendors thread.
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After this post, I decided to check tetravot's coke with marquis reagent to test for the potential presence of amphetamine/methamphetamine. It turns marquis reagent orange, indicating that the sample I tested is positive for the presence of amphetamine/methamphetamine.
Perhaps you could post a picture?
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tonymontana, this needs to be put into the coke thread and I'm with dopeboy on the need for a picture to back up this claim. T's rep is solid and this is a bold statement.
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tonymontana, this needs to be put into the coke thread and I'm with dopeboy on the need for a picture to back up this claim. T's rep is solid and this is a bold statement.
@Dopeboy and chillframe: Ok, will post pics later on today.
@chillframe: It's not that bold of a statement. I just dripped a little marquis reagent on some of t's coke, watched the color change, and reported the facts here. Why is that so bold? The fact is anyone with t's coke and marquis reagent, including t himself, can repeat the experiment. So no need to take my word for it. Really, don't take my word for it -- Marquis reagent is $25 online. Pictures don't really prove anything. Lastly, t's rep is solid for a reason: he's an excellent vendor who sells coke that people like. I'm not trying to affect t's rep by posting this. I'm 100% sure that all coke on SR is adulterated with one impurity or another. If someone is willing to do the experiment, I think the users have a right to know. One of these days someone should test SR coke for levamisole and post some results. Then the real fun begins.
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This makes sense if it's the same batch I got from Tet (the HWT). It burned the shit out of my nose and made me very jittery. It's not a bad product but just not what I necessarily want from my coke. Still, Tet is an awesome vendor and I wouldn't hesitate to order again.
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Time series pics of reaction between T's coke and marquis reagent:
http://4eiruntyxxbgfv7o.onion/imgzapr/upload/timeseriesshare.jpg
Note: times are approximate and my phone camera kind of sucks.
After this post, I decided to check tetravot's coke with marquis reagent to test for the potential presence of amphetamine/methamphetamine. It turns marquis reagent orange, indicating that the sample I tested is positive for the presence of amphetamine/methamphetamine.
Perhaps you could post a picture?
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With any sort of anonymous or pseudonymous statement or purported test, one can never tell whether it is real or gamesmanship by another vendor. I have never felt anything like a burning sensation from HWT (a batch that I quite like, btw), but since two buyers that I know describe mild or not-so-mild burning I have to take this seriously.
Is it possible that there is amphetamine in the product? I have not tested it so I can't say no. I have never tried crystal meth, but I have tried some amphetamines and I don't get the sense that there is an amphetamine component to HWT. I don't get jittery and when I have tried amphetamines the tweaked sensation lasted a very long time. I used to do what I now consider to be bad coke and that stuff made it very hard to get to sleep. I am pretty sure that stuff had some sort of speed.
So how do I go about taking this seriously? I have, up to this point, thought that testing would be too expensive or too unreliable, but I sure would like to be able to make definitive statements about what I know/believe is in the product, for the health and positive experience of everyone who uses it, for integrity as a vendor, but not so much for marketing purposes (as was discussed a few days ago in the coke vendors thread). So I will do some research and try to come up with a manageable battery of tests that I can throw at each new batch. If I am able to put together a set of tests that makes sense to implement, I will release these results on my profile page. Of course you, the buyer, should not believe published tests done by a vendor. Buyers should still (collaboratively or separately) do testing when they are able.
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TV - I mentioned this in the main vendor thread. You can triple acetone wash + water wash and this will get rid of 99% of any cuts. It will also show you (roughly) what's in it ... acetone washing will remove most of the "caines", mannitol etc - and then when you do the water wash, it makes what's left eminently separable (acetone wont remove pseudo/amphetamine but you'll be able to separate it really easily after a water wash)
If you start with 10g, 3 x wash with anhydrous acetone -> 9g -> water wash/filter -> 7g you know that you've got rid of at least 3g of cut, 2g of which is probably active icky cut.
What's left will be as close to pure cocaine as you've ever had. As close to 80s coke as you'll ever find nowadays ;) (shot of an A/B extraction)
Message me if you need any help with this mate.
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With any sort of anonymous or pseudonymous statement or purported test, one can never tell whether it is real or gamesmanship by another vendor. I have never felt anything like a burning sensation from HWT (a batch that I quite like, btw), but since two buyers that I know describe mild or not-so-mild burning I have to take this seriously.
Is it possible that there is amphetamine in the product? I have not tested it so I can't say no. I have never tried crystal meth, but I have tried some amphetamines and I don't get the sense that there is an amphetamine component to HWT. I don't get jittery and when I have tried amphetamines the tweaked sensation lasted a very long time. I used to do what I now consider to be bad coke and that stuff made it very hard to get to sleep. I am pretty sure that stuff had some sort of speed.
So how do I go about taking this seriously? I have, up to this point, thought that testing would be too expensive or too unreliable, but I sure would like to be able to make definitive statements about what I know/believe is in the product, for the health and positive experience of everyone who uses it, for integrity as a vendor, but not so much for marketing purposes (as was discussed a few days ago in the coke vendors thread). So I will do some research and try to come up with a manageable battery of tests that I can throw at each new batch. If I am able to put together a set of tests that makes sense to implement, I will release these results on my profile page. Of course you, the buyer, should not believe published tests done by a vendor. Buyers should still (collaboratively or separately) do testing when they are able.
This ^^ ladies and gents is the reason why Tetravort is the #1 seller. Hats off to you T!
Greynick would you mind sharing how you get your hands on anhydrous acetone? I've tried to source it with no luck and don't trust the epsom salts trick to not be seriously wasteful.
Hey onlyadream,
The epsom salt method works perfectly. I use 20-30 grams of baked epsom salt (baked @ 400F/200C for 2 hours) per litre. I put that in with the acetone and just leave it for at least 24 hours before use. When I wash my coke, I use a glass syringe and only take acetone from the top and not get any of the goop down the bottom into the syringe. Water is your enemy here. I hardly waste any at all. What do you consider wasteful?
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Time series pics of reaction between T's coke and marquis reagent:
http://4eiruntyxxbgfv7o.onion/imgzapr/upload/timeseriesshare.jpg
Note: times are approximate and my phone camera kind of sucks.
After this post, I decided to check tetravot's coke with marquis reagent to test for the potential presence of amphetamine/methamphetamine. It turns marquis reagent orange, indicating that the sample I tested is positive for the presence of amphetamine/methamphetamine.
Perhaps you could post a picture?
About bold claims, I've seen people just make product claims with no proof and its obviously very hard differentiate between the different vendors products. I agree that most of the stuff on here is adulterated and your right on about the levamisole as thats a huge problem now... Pictures do show amp/meth. Thanks tony.
Tetra kudos on future testing. Adding to the thread shows concern for sure.
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Ok there are two methods I've heard of to actually test cocaine easily - one is bringing a small sample up to its melting point. If it is impure, it will flash way before 187C ..
There's also the bleach test.
Fill a shooter class, dump in 2CC of bleach
-cocaine is only "caine" that will not turn orange in bleach
-amphetamines turn red
-coke forms a slow milky trail that slowly falls like snow
-inactive fillers will clumps white at top or bottom
You don't have to use much.
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Hey onlyadream,
The epsom salt method works perfectly. I use 20-30 grams of baked epsom salt (baked @ 400F/200C for 2 hours) per litre. I put that in with the acetone and just leave it for at least 24 hours before use. When I wash my coke, I use a glass syringe and only take acetone from the top and not get any of the goop down the bottom into the syringe. Water is your enemy here. I hardly waste any at all. What do you consider wasteful?
Good to hear that you haven't had an issue. I've heard that the epsom method doesn't remove water very well but it sounds like it works for you. I'll have to try it sometime. I was really hoping on just finding a way to purchase reagent grade acetone which would be a much better option.
Hey mate, yeah it's really hard to get pure acetone anywhere. You need a license in some countries and its watched in others, which is silly as it's so easy to make. Truly, I have no troubles at all with the magnesium sulphate method. It works a treat and hardy takes any effort at all.
Grey
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Hey mate, yeah it's really hard to get pure acetone anywhere. You need a license in some countries and its watched in others, which is silly as it's so easy to make. Truly, I have no troubles at all with the magnesium sulphate method. It works a treat and hardy takes any effort at all.
Grey
Don't know where you get your info, but acetone is not easy to make at home. Also pure acetone is actually very easy to acquire in many places, even the USA. I can get 20 liter drums of anhydrous acetone delivered to my door tomorrow morning. And even if acetone is watched, no one is going to bust down your door over the purchase of acetone alone. Even industrial acetone is very pure too so the stuff you get at the hardware store is pretty good and quite dry too.
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Don't know where you get your info, but acetone is not easy to make at home.
What's so hard about dropping a handful of magnesium sulfate into a litre of hardware grade acetone?
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Don't know where you get your info, but acetone is not easy to make at home.
What's so hard about dropping a handful of magnesium sulfate into a litre of hardware grade acetone?
What you are referring to is drying acetone, not making acetone.
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Don't know where you get your info, but acetone is not easy to make at home. Also pure acetone is actually very easy to acquire in many places, even the USA. I can get 20 liter drums of anhydrous acetone delivered to my door tomorrow morning. And even if acetone is watched, no one is going to bust down your door over the purchase of acetone alone. Even industrial acetone is very pure too so the stuff you get at the hardware store is pretty good and quite dry too.
What does "quite dry" mean and would you mind sharing how to get just a liter of reagent acetone? 20 liters seems a bit excessive.
Quite dry means very little water contained within the acetone, can easily be dried with a drying agent.
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Don't know where you get your info, but acetone is not easy to make at home.
What's so hard about dropping a handful of magnesium sulfate into a litre of hardware grade acetone?
What you are referring to is drying acetone, not making acetone.
I was never discussing making acetone. Only making anhydrous acetone from lower grade acetone.
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sounds like meth to me,but I prob would still order from him. I've heard good things and his stuff looks really good. Maybe it was just a bad batch. His stuff is really expensive. I hope things get resolved before i place my order.
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HWT definitely did the job and its not like I dumped it out or anything, but I found that I was bracing myself for doing it. It stung and was really harsh on my nose. This is just my personal experience which will be different for other people... especially if someone has an iron septum. However, my septum is definitely not made of iron.
When Tet moves to a new, named product, I'll definitely consider it. I have tremendous respect for him as a vendor, but HWT just isn't for me.
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HWT definitely did the job and its not like I dumped it out or anything, but I found that I was bracing myself for doing it. It stung and was really harsh on my nose. This is just my personal experience which will be different for other people... especially if someone has an iron septum. However, my septum is definitely not made of iron.
When Tet moves to a new, named product, I'll definitely consider it. I have tremendous respect for him as a vendor, but HWT just isn't for me.
+1 Yes, just because HWT was not for me either does not mean I will not buy out of another batch.
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been snorting pills? did it burn the back of your throat too?
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I thought it would be fair to talk about Tet's SVN batch here, at least briefly.
It's definitely not HWT. It is way smoother and wasn't speedy for me at all. At first it was almost too mellow, but I definitely grew to appreciate it after the first few samplings and consider one of the best batches I've ever had, even in retrospect.
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I have to back up Torn....Batch SeVen is more smooth ....definitely no slight burning and quite crystal shining:-)
In my opinion I like SeVen more, but HWT was very very nice. Lastet Longer
ordered already another batch....:9 ;D ;D
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So I have tried several different batches of coke, and all seem to be pretty good. Came across one recently though that burned the hell out of my nose, not at first, but after a while I had clear drip from my nose and had this horrible pain throughout my nasal cavity. It was so bad that my eyes were tearing so bad and the pain was nearly unbearable. This lasted for about 15 minutes and then all of a sudden stopped. Euphoria etc seemed fine though. Anyone have a clue as to what the fuck is causing this? When going back to the other stuff after this painful shit there is no painful stinging at all. I assume that it's whatever the coke is cut with, but have no idea what it would be. This was stuff I got from Tetravort a few weeks ago, but I thought his stuff was supposed to be great.
I'm having the same experience. I ordered stuff recently and having the same burning experience. Its unpleasant and ruins the main effect.