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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: tradesalt on November 23, 2012, 05:01 am
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I recently got some clean, tan molly shards, and I put 120mg of the sandy/slightly shardy pieces in a size #1 capsule (already a small looking cap) and it looks like a tiny, tiny amount in there. Since there is no filler, I am wondering if people are going to eyeball it and think "you skimped out on me you sketchy fuck!" When in fact 120mg is a damn good amount of clean crystal.
What are your experiences/habits with moving capsules of molly?
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if people know what they are looking at and you tell them the weight, you will have no issues. i know people who out put 80mg in their caps and sell them as "points". at the same time though, we would sometimes fill the caps as a half gram, just to move larger amounts in a club or something, but if you do that, make sure the person understands it is not meant for them to take the whole thing!
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Get smaller caps, 120/130mg is perfect dose.
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Thanks for the feedback guys, I appreciate it.
Problem is that I am already using size 1 capsules which are tiny. In addition, they don't make capsule filling machines which are any good for size #2 or #3, and filling caps individually takes way more time than it is worth. If I cant fill 25 or more capsules in a go, it is to inefficient.
I am thinking of maybe mixing in a small amount of caffeine powder, as most people typically like a less mongy and slightly more energetic roll. I would explain this to any buyers, as I have nothing to hide - I like my rolls like that too.
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Don't use caffeine, instead try something like dextrose. It's cheap (like 3-4$/kilo) and doesn't give a nasty comedown like caffeine.
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Don't use caffeine, instead try something like dextrose. It's cheap (like 3-4$/kilo) and doesn't give a nasty comedown like caffeine.
any other good cutting agent that sell legaly without perscriptions in pharmacy store beside dextrose?
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Dextrose is even available in supermarkets.. at least here.
Other 'good' cutting agents? I don't know to be honest, I've heard of pulverized aspirin.. guess that's pretty harmless :P Helps with the headache
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Knomo, thank you for your insights. I actually have used dextrose from the store here in producing mushrooms before, so I can't believe I didn't think of that. You are the man, thank you for sharing you wisdom. I want to do right by my customers. You're a huge help.
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A good cut in MDMA caps would be something like vitamin C or vitamin E powder. At least that would help with some of the neurotoxic effects of MDMA. Not overly expensive ether. :)
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A good cut in MDMA caps would be something like vitamin C or vitamin E powder. At least that would help with some of the neurotoxic effects of MDMA. Not overly expensive ether. :)
Add some 5-HTP into the mix and you got yourself the least neurotoxic MDMA pill ever ;)
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A good cut in MDMA caps would be something like vitamin C or vitamin E powder. At least that would help with some of the neurotoxic effects of MDMA. Not overly expensive ether. :)
Add some 5-HTP into the mix and you got yourself the least neurotoxic MDMA pill ever ;)
In my experience 5htp can dampen the effects of the roll, but yes you're right it will lessen neurotoxicity also. :)
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Dextrose is even available in supermarkets.. at least here.
Other 'good' cutting agents? I don't know to be honest, I've heard of pulverized aspirin.. guess that's pretty harmless :P Helps with the headache
;Dok mate
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A good cut in MDMA caps would be something like vitamin C or vitamin E powder. At least that would help with some of the neurotoxic effects of MDMA. Not overly expensive ether. :)
Add some 5-HTP into the mix and you got yourself the least neurotoxic MDMA pill ever ;)
In my experience 5htp can dampen the effects of the roll, but yes you're right it will lessen neurotoxicity also. :)
Thanks mates ;)
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Hi guys,
I've been making MDMA caps for awhile with size 0 capsules. I've come most people prefer 125mg, which is convenient considering that is an 1/8 of a gram. You just have to know what to expect with ~100mg of a substance. it isn't very much once you get accustomed to weight. MDA for example is pretty volumetric compared to MDMA, but at the same weight in my findings. Size 1 doesn't fit my machine.
Sometimes I use an excipient filler such as a lactose, but most people I know prefer just plain substance.
It all comes down to many variables, such as the size of the cap as well, thus giving the perception of smallness. A person will eat less if given a small plate, but eat more if given a bigger one. A wider glass looks more full than a tall one with the same volume. Why? Perception. Just know what to expect.
I've also been tinkering around with these formulas, which have all been made in small batches and for the most part tested. Some stolen from trip reports on erowid and this and other forums adjusted to the average per pound user IMO.
Scale accurate within 3-5mg:
2C-B 25mg capsules (~22-27mg)
MDA 125mg capsules (~125mg)
MDA 125mg +12.5mg methamphetamine capsules (~138mg)
MDMA 125mg capsules (~125mg)
MDMA 125mg + 20mg 2C-B capsules (~145mg)
MDMA 125mg + 12.5mg methamphetamine capsules (~138mg)
MDMA 100mg + MDA 50mg capsules (~150mg)
MDMA 100mg + MDA 50mg + 10mg methamphetamine capsules (~160mg)
MDMA 100mg + MDA 50mg + 50mg cocaine + 10mg methamphetamine capsules (210mg)
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Hi guys,
I've been making MDMA caps for awhile with size 0 capsules. I've come most people prefer 125mg, which is convenient considering that is an 1/8 of a gram. You just have to know what to expect with ~100mg of a substance. it isn't very much once you get accustomed to weight. MDA for example is pretty volumetric compared to MDMA, but at the same weight in my findings. Size 1 doesn't fit my machine.
Sometimes I use an excipient filler such as a lactose, but most people I know prefer just plain substance.
It all comes down to many variables, such as the size of the cap as well, thus giving the perception of smallness. A person will eat less if given a small plate, but eat more if given a bigger one. A wider glass looks more full than a tall one with the same volume. Why? Perception. Just know what to expect.
I've also been tinkering around with these formulas, which have all been made in small batches and for the most part tested. Some stolen from trip reports on erowid and this and other forums adjusted to the average per pound user IMO.
Scale accurate within 3-5mg:
2C-B 25mg capsules (~22-27mg)
MDA 125mg capsules (~125mg)
MDA 125mg +12.5mg methamphetamine capsules (~138mg)
MDMA 125mg capsules (~125mg)
MDMA 125mg + 20mg 2C-B capsules (~145mg)
MDMA 125mg + 12.5mg methamphetamine capsules (~138mg)
MDMA 100mg + MDA 50mg capsules (~150mg)
MDMA 100mg + MDA 50mg + 10mg methamphetamine capsules (~160mg)
MDMA 100mg + MDA 50mg + 50mg cocaine + 10mg methamphetamine capsules (210mg)
this is rather interesting.how well does the mdma + 2cb go down with each other?
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Hi guys,
I've been making MDMA caps for awhile with size 0 capsules. I've come most people prefer 125mg, which is convenient considering that is an 1/8 of a gram. You just have to know what to expect with ~100mg of a substance. it isn't very much once you get accustomed to weight. MDA for example is pretty volumetric compared to MDMA, but at the same weight in my findings. Size 1 doesn't fit my machine.
Sometimes I use an excipient filler such as a lactose, but most people I know prefer just plain substance.
It all comes down to many variables, such as the size of the cap as well, thus giving the perception of smallness. A person will eat less if given a small plate, but eat more if given a bigger one. A wider glass looks more full than a tall one with the same volume. Why? Perception. Just know what to expect.
I've also been tinkering around with these formulas, which have all been made in small batches and for the most part tested. Some stolen from trip reports on erowid and this and other forums adjusted to the average per pound user IMO.
Scale accurate within 3-5mg:
2C-B 25mg capsules (~22-27mg)
MDA 125mg capsules (~125mg)
MDA 125mg +12.5mg methamphetamine capsules (~138mg)
MDMA 125mg capsules (~125mg)
MDMA 125mg + 20mg 2C-B capsules (~145mg)
MDMA 125mg + 12.5mg methamphetamine capsules (~138mg)
MDMA 100mg + MDA 50mg capsules (~150mg)
MDMA 100mg + MDA 50mg + 10mg methamphetamine capsules (~160mg)
MDMA 100mg + MDA 50mg + 50mg cocaine + 10mg methamphetamine capsules (210mg)
this is rather interesting.how well does the mdma + 2cb go down with each other?
Very nice indeed. Although I prefer to take the 2c-b as the mdma peak is wearing off. :)
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A good cut in MDMA caps would be something like vitamin C or vitamin E powder. At least that would help with some of the neurotoxic effects of MDMA. Not overly expensive ether. :)
Add some 5-HTP into the mix and you got yourself the least neurotoxic MDMA pill ever ;)
I read the other day that you should only take 5-HTP after you've come down, as well as not too soon before taking any.
Sorry for not having a source to hand, though it may be the topic in the drug safety forum.
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A good cut in MDMA caps would be something like vitamin C or vitamin E powder. At least that would help with some of the neurotoxic effects of MDMA. Not overly expensive ether. :)
Add some 5-HTP into the mix and you got yourself the least neurotoxic MDMA pill ever ;)
I read the other day that you should only take 5-HTP after you've come down, as well as not too soon before taking any.
Sorry for not having a source to hand, though it may be the topic in the drug safety forum.
I think you're right, I recall having read that somewhere.
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Hi guys,
I've been making MDMA caps for awhile with size 0 capsules. I've come most people prefer 125mg, which is convenient considering that is an 1/8 of a gram. You just have to know what to expect with ~100mg of a substance. it isn't very much once you get accustomed to weight. MDA for example is pretty volumetric compared to MDMA, but at the same weight in my findings. Size 1 doesn't fit my machine.
Sometimes I use an excipient filler such as a lactose, but most people I know prefer just plain substance.
It all comes down to many variables, such as the size of the cap as well, thus giving the perception of smallness. A person will eat less if given a small plate, but eat more if given a bigger one. A wider glass looks more full than a tall one with the same volume. Why? Perception. Just know what to expect.
I've also been tinkering around with these formulas, which have all been made in small batches and for the most part tested. Some stolen from trip reports on erowid and this and other forums adjusted to the average per pound user IMO.
Scale accurate within 3-5mg:
2C-B 25mg capsules (~22-27mg)
MDA 125mg capsules (~125mg)
MDA 125mg +12.5mg methamphetamine capsules (~138mg)
MDMA 125mg capsules (~125mg)
MDMA 125mg + 20mg 2C-B capsules (~145mg)
MDMA 125mg + 12.5mg methamphetamine capsules (~138mg)
MDMA 100mg + MDA 50mg capsules (~150mg)
MDMA 100mg + MDA 50mg + 10mg methamphetamine capsules (~160mg)
MDMA 100mg + MDA 50mg + 50mg cocaine + 10mg methamphetamine capsules (210mg)
this is rather interesting.how well does the mdma + 2cb go down with each other?
Very nice indeed. Although I prefer to take the 2c-b as the mdma peak is wearing off. :)
im going to have to try it,is it more enjoyable than taking 2cb on its own? 8)
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What would you guys recommend adding to ~100mg of mdma to make it more of an energetic roll. Preferably something that won't keep me up for days.
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What would you guys recommend adding to ~100mg of mdma to make it more of an energetic roll. Preferably something that won't keep me up for days.
Adderall if you're not trying to make a profit and just have a good time.
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What would you guys recommend adding to ~100mg of mdma to make it more of an energetic roll. Preferably something that won't keep me up for days.
Adderall if you're not trying to make a profit and just have a good time.
Thanks. Might try this combo next weekend. How many mg's would you suggest?
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Amphetamine sulphate or methamphetamine. Might as well go big or go home. 8)
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What would you guys recommend adding to ~100mg of mdma to make it more of an energetic roll. Preferably something that won't keep me up for days.
Adderall if you're not trying to make a profit and just have a good time.
Thanks. Might try this combo next weekend. How many mg's would you suggest?
I also like to use Adderall with MDMA as MDMA doesn't keep me awake on its own. As little as 10mg of Adderall can be pretty effective, but these things vary greatly person to person.
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Since there is no filler, I am wondering if people are going to eyeball it and think "you skimped out on me you sketchy fuck!" When in fact 120mg is a damn good amount of clean crystal.
Just my opinion, but you might be overthinking this. Put 130mg or even 150mg in there and tell them that it is 130mg and that it is so pure that anything more than 130mg often makes people throw up....which is actually true. You might even want to say things like "you might need to pull open the capsule and only give your girlfriend 3/4 of it to start because it might be too strong otherwise, but watch out because pure MDMA like this is very bitter."
Once people try a single dose, 9 times out of 10 they will be wanting more.
The MDMA we get from SR speaks for itself. It is uncut and it is awesome. Besides, every once in a while you might run into somebody that really knows MDMA and they'll call bullshit on the MDMA if it is cut because it won't look the same.
But heck as long as you're honest about whatever you do then no big deal. If you want make it up both ways and offer people either of the two for the same price and see what people prefer.
I hate filling caps, and when I mix with dextrose or cellulose or whatever I'm always paranoid I'm not getting it mixed evenly, and then it is even worse when I fill a whole batch of caps at once because I'm just not confident that every cap is getting the same amount of compressed powder. I guess I could weight the pulls on a 0.001g scale and find out though......maybe I'll try that....but I'll try it with Viagra or something cheaper than MDMA.