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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: TrippinOnHunger on July 23, 2013, 04:35 am
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Is there a difference? Has anyone tried both and prefer one over the other?
The only diff I see is that the P envy have smaller caps and theyre more expensive.
Thanks for the help
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Penis Envy is stronger per weight than normal caps. Not by x2, but up to x1.5
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I believe PE is a cubensis. Regardless, PE is what I chose to grow after trying many strains. The fruits are so big and meaty, which made them good for trying to get weight as well. Everyone always liked what my PE. You won't be disappointed with that choice.
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So instead of the usual 3.5 g of shrooms per serving, 2.5 g would be plenty? Im tempted to try them, but theres noyt many listings at the moment.
Someone told me while selling shrooms that caps give more of a visual/mental trip while stems are the cause of a body high. Are the p envy more of a body high then since the caps are so tiny?
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There is no science behind the claim that stems and caps have different effects. A body trip is usually just the result of a low dosage of pscilocin and psilocybin. It is hard to judge how much on average to dose of any mushroom. 1.75-3.5g is a good amount for one person. See how your dose affects you and adjust for the next time accordingly. You can build up a short term tolerance to mushrooms so give yourself a little time in between trips. As for potency I have read that the medium the mushrooms grow on can have some effect on potency. Growing on dung is often claimed to produce stronger mushrooms. Best bet is to weigh out what you think is a good dose then add or subtract based on your experience. Have fun!
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Your right, too bad mushies are so uncontrolled. I just placed an order for an ounce of field mushrooms! The vendor told me that the mushies arent as good as those grown indoors, but Im still excited to try them. For $80 an ounce, shit ill eat half the ounce and be happy. Not really I have a low tolerance haha
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Having grown shrooms for years, I've noticed how people become connoisseurs of different strains. Certainly the strains have historical significance. IIRC Penis Envy was MacKenna's favorite.
As far as potency is concerned, the primary, overwhelming factor is when you pick the fruiting bodies. The younger the fruiting body, the higher the psilocybin content. Best time to pick is right when the veil breaks. Wait longer, and you get a bigger shroom, a higher yield in grams wet or dry, but not necessarily a higher yield in psilocybin. When you're selling by the gram, there is an incentive to wait, get bigger shrooms, even if your potency goes down. When you grow for your own use, like I do, you pick 'em young, handle gently until they dry, and dry em quick.
It follows, then, that any batch you try could vary considerably in potency. I know they say you can't "bump" shrooms like you can MDMA, but I frequently will take a booster dose at precisely 1 hour in if I need to. So if there's a question about tolerance or potency, I'll take a quarter of an eighth, wait exactly one hour and decide if I want more. (I would agree that after that first hour, there's not much to recommend boosters).
As far as the phenomenology of the trip is concerned, that's so dependent on local and host factors (set, setting) that it's hard to tease out any subtle differences from one strain to the next.
This is just my opinion, but I would suggest really focusing less on the strain and more on the grower. Maybe some SR vendors can chime in here, but I think what you want is someone doing this as a labor of love, rather than trying to grind a profit. Find some old hippie who has simple needs and real ethics. Someone who raises them with love an reverence, filling them chock full of love and good karma. That's what you need. Don't worry how much or how little they look like yer pee-pee.
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Wow, thanks for the insight, Ive never heard of any of this. Everyone always goes for the bigger caps and the bigger stems. You make sense, if that is how the psilocybin works, but Im not doubting you. Seems like shrooms are the opposite of peyote, in a growing sense. Thanks HenryC!
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PE is a mutant variety that came from the Amazonian strain (specifically Colombian) legend has it that Terrence McKenna found a raqther large shroom growing in a dung pile and printed it and then gave or sent the print to Steven Pollock who grew it out and found an anomaly, a shroom that had the appearance of a penis (hence the name Penis Envy). Anyway, he worked it until he fixed the strain to grow in a consistent manner. It is a cubensis mushroom but it is a mutant and it is stronger than normal cubensis. I've been posting all day to get my 50 posts just to post this!!!
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I've been tripping on funguys for years and for the first time this past month was able to order a Penis Envy strain inside a chocolate bar from here on SR. I'd have to say that I normally eat around 4-5 grams of normal cubensis for a heroic dose. But I wanted to test the supposed potency of the PE strain and ate what would be equivalent to about 1.8-2g of the PE and was VERY impressed. I would say equal to about an 1/8th of normal cubensis. And it helped that I heard the legends that McKenna was instrumental in discovering and propagating this strain.