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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: lotek72 on August 19, 2013, 07:14 pm

Title: So The Feds Made a Vendor Account
Post by: lotek72 on August 19, 2013, 07:14 pm
I looked through every topic and it doesn't seem that anyone has seen this article. Apparently Law Enforcement made a vendor account and used that to make an arrest. It's driving me insane that no one is talking about this because this really is the biggest thing to ever happen on tor. I guess we just have to be wary of newer vendors. Let me know if this link is a repost, but i have looked through the forums and haven't even found a mention of it.

(clearnet link)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2357954/First-Bitcoin-bust-Feds-seize-electronic-currency-connection-shadowy-internet-drug-bazaar-Silk-Road.html
Title: Re: So The Feds Made a Vendor Account
Post by: samjackson247 on August 19, 2013, 07:21 pm
Wow this is news to me, will have a read shortly...
Title: Re: So The Feds Made a Vendor Account
Post by: klemmo on August 19, 2013, 07:22 pm
I'm shocked at the Daily Mail. The amounts are in dollars and the widget at the bottom doesn't do £s!

Edit: "chomping at the bitcoin" ! The Sun would be proud of that.
Title: Re: So The Feds Made a Vendor Account
Post by: Rainbowbleh on August 19, 2013, 07:23 pm
I dunno that the article actually states that.  If they had access to his computer, they probably just logged into his account and drained it.
Title: Re: So The Feds Made a Vendor Account
Post by: lotek72 on August 19, 2013, 08:02 pm
I dunno that the article actually states that.  If they had access to his computer, they probably just logged into his account and drained it.

Yeah the article does.

"When buzz began to spread of the seizure, users of the blog Let's Talk Bitcoin! were able to connect the Bitcoin account number listed on the DEA document to a transaction made in April on Silk Road of exactly 11.02 Bitcoins."

Him sending his name and address to a vendor account is the only way law enforcement could have gotten a warrant to search his place, because before his transaction this guy really didn't even exist to them.

Title: Re: So The Feds Made a Vendor Account
Post by: conflicted on August 19, 2013, 08:17 pm
As far as I'm aware, the police making a vendor account and pretending to sell drugs would be illegal in the U.K at least.
Title: Re: So The Feds Made a Vendor Account
Post by: OdinRaver on August 19, 2013, 08:20 pm
Yeah I'm not sure I buy this. Daily Mail is garbage, and this seems illegal (Not that that means feds won't do it anyways
Title: Re: So The Feds Made a Vendor Account
Post by: conflicted on August 19, 2013, 08:38 pm
I'm with you on the daily mail, worst most biased newspaper out, literally an evil piece of work!
I call it the daily scare, much better off with the independant or I.
The problem is if the cops caught you by making a vendor account, they would actually have to send you drugs? no? Possession is the crime and if they just take your cash and you have no drugs?
It would be entrapment anyway IMO.
Title: Re: So The Feds Made a Vendor Account
Post by: OdinRaver on August 19, 2013, 08:42 pm
Exactly.

I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think feds can do this. I'd need to see a lot more proof than this shit.
Title: Re: So The Feds Made a Vendor Account
Post by: 88fxstc on August 19, 2013, 08:45 pm
I don't know if they can legally do this in the US but it is a scary thought. I'm right now very close t making a buy from a relatively new vendor. He's got some transactions, not brand new, but, he's not a 300+ vendor with a ton of forum feedback.  It';s scary, but, I've done it B4. I'll nPM back n forth a bit and get a good gut feeling boutr a new vendor and go for it. I wound up getting some killer assed C from the dude too.
Title: Re: So The Feds Made a Vendor Account
Post by: Green-Android on August 19, 2013, 08:47 pm
11 BTC. It's like getting caught with 10 pills at a party in the Netherlands...

It is so nasty they set a trap...
Title: Re: So The Feds Made a Vendor Account
Post by: Rainbowbleh on August 19, 2013, 08:50 pm
It wouldn't have to be a vendor.  Anyone can send anyone money on the site.  They could have accessed his account and sent the money to their account to cash it out.  In theory anyway.  Just saying it wouldn't need to be a vendor account even if things did go down the way this article says it did.
Title: Re: So The Feds Made a Vendor Account
Post by: bp73efc on August 19, 2013, 08:58 pm
sounds like entrapment,i know moons ago when i had my finger in a few pies the filth were not allowed to openly offer to sell/or buy from you
Title: Re: So The Feds Made a Vendor Account
Post by: Jack N Hoff on August 19, 2013, 09:04 pm
There is many threads on this already.  Just look around.  Casey Jones was a vendor.  The feds were not the vendor.

Here is one of the many threads about this.  http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=181225
Title: Re: So The Feds Made a Vendor Account
Post by: DtownsFinest on August 19, 2013, 09:05 pm
This is old news, he was most likely busted from running his mouth locally where he lived or had outside problems which led them to him and he had his passwords etc set out which enables the feds to be able to seize. This shouldnt be possible unless you keep a ledger of all your info which this guy clearly did. That or he told them all his info and were able to log in, which is possible as well.