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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: wertu on February 24, 2013, 03:43 pm
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Hey Ladies & Gentlemen!
WERTU is a new Research Chemical Vendor on the SR from EU.
Vendor page: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/cd270d28e7
I would like to say hello to the whole SR community. I'm more than happy that I can be a part of this community. Over the next few weeks I will try to upload all my products. Right now I have mostly RCs in stock but later on I’m planning to deal with some other drugs and steroids also.
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03.24.
The SAMPLING IS OVER :(
I've given out a decent amount of free products. I think a lot of people get to know them and I gained enough attention to my store!
Thank you all for trying my products and leaving nice reviews and feedback. Special Thanks for all who become regular customers!!!
From now I will have 0.5g listings from my products. If you are a new buyer You can order this first to try and see the quality, quantity, packaging etc. if you don't believe to the other customers reviews and feedback :))
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THANK YOU ALL!!!!!!
WERTU
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Hi man!
I intrested to the preban Meph, have you this?
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Is shipping from the Netherlands? When do you think you will get the products marked as later? Pre ban meph would go down well as well. Good luck +1
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Hey, just wanted to comment to show my interest in this... I have over 15 successful transactions on SR and am one of Ballzinator's certified reviewers. Placing an order for your sample pack, looking forward to writing a review :)
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Hi man!
I intrested to the preban Meph, have you this?
Hi nopanic,
Here we go the type of meph what you looking for.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/7d9c127cba
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Is shipping from the Netherlands? When do you think you will get the products marked as later? Pre ban meph would go down well as well. Good luck +1
Hi Zazoo,
Nope, we do not ship from NL. We ship from Central EU locations.
The products marked "later" will be as soon as we can agree with our supplier of those. Hopefully soon. ;)
All the Best ,
W.
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looking forward to receiving and reviewing, i havnt seen any mephedrone since last summer, it may be fate as i had exactly 0.29 BTC
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Hey wertu thanks for offering free samples. I am in the process of logging into the road now and I'll look at your page soon and may place an order.
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Hi WERTU and all,
Only had 0.11bc left on SR so went for the single meph sample - will write a full review here and on 'Mephedrone vendors' thread once received, would be great to find another decent vendor seeing as things are a bit of a mess with the bigger UK ones at the moment!
Will update once it has arrived.
gloomy.
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It really looks great and all and i do have enough for a sample pack but I am really scared to risk any money on Mephedrone right now after being screwed over by "you know who" and then getting that garbage from one of the vendors he supplies.
I would love to order this and do a detailed honest review and promote you in my threads and the mephedrone threads and in your threads.
I like to promote new vendors and help buyers find credible vendors.
One of the cons about this anonymous thing here is people can go make up new accounts and be someone different. Is there any way for me to be sure that you are not limitless, the UK vendor?
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It really looks great and all and i do have enough for a sample pack but I am really scared to risk any money on Mephedrone right now after being screwed over by "you know who" and then getting that garbage from one of the vendors he supplies.
I would love to order this and do a detailed honest review and promote you in my threads and the mephedrone threads and in your threads.
I like to promote new vendors and help buyers find credible vendors.
One of the cons about this anonymous thing here is people can go make up new accounts and be someone different. Is there any way for me to be sure that you are not limitless, the UK vendor?
Yeah lots of people have been messed around there mate, me included although I did eventually get what I ordered. Just for what it's worth have communicated many times with the vendor in question and wertu and I can confirm that they are definitely not the same person, but you'll have to make your own mind up about it.
Leaves a bad taste when you get ripped off, but don't let it affect your experience here too much, in over 22 orders only one has let me down (twice) all the others have been perfect and hassle-free.
Anyhow once I receive my samples will let you know how it compares to other stuff on SR, I'll know if it's the same straight away.
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I've not dealt with Wertu before but I was PM'ing him quite a bit yesterday and I have to say he was prompt in replying, courteous and helpful. He seemed genuine and sorted out an order issue with me. I honestly don't get the feeling he is here to mess anybody about.
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It really looks great and all and i do have enough for a sample pack but I am really scared to risk any money on Mephedrone right now after being screwed over by "you know who" and then getting that garbage from one of the vendors he supplies.
I would love to order this and do a detailed honest review and promote you in my threads and the mephedrone threads and in your threads.
I like to promote new vendors and help buyers find credible vendors.
One of the cons about this anonymous thing here is people can go make up new accounts and be someone different. Is there any way for me to be sure that you are not limitless, the UK vendor?
Hi Mike,
Sorry that you had this bad experience with some vendor here. I'm new on the road and haven't even heard about 'limitless' before.
The reason why I'm here is, to make money! Quality products and good customer service is the bottom line of this. I'll never going to screw you. It doesn't worth it and I believe in karma. ;)
PM me on silk road and I will prove that you can trust me.
W.
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Hi WERTU and all,
Only had 0.11bc left on SR so went for the single meph sample - will write a full review here and on 'Mephedrone vendors' thread once received, would be great to find another decent vendor seeing as things are a bit of a mess with the bigger UK ones at the moment!
Will update once it has arrived.
gloomy.
Thank you, I hope I can provide you some quality products in the future. The samples are on the way. ;)
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I've not dealt with Wertu before but I was PM'ing him quite a bit yesterday and I have to say he was prompt in replying, courteous and helpful. He seemed genuine and sorted out an order issue with me. I honestly don't get the feeling he is here to mess anybody about.
Thank you. Looking forward to see the reviews!
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Sample pack received today. Took about 10 days to get to me on the west coast and gear looks legit. Ill have fun this weekend and post reviews of the 3 products received. Cheers wertu.
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Sample pack received today. Took about 10 days to get to me on the west coast and gear looks legit. Ill have fun this weekend and post reviews of the 3 products received. Cheers wertu.
From which country was the package send?
I ordered the sample pack.
Did you tried it yet?
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Should be receiving mine sometime this week, I keep checking this thread for reviews!
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Sample pack received within 3 days to the UK - lightning fast!
4 samples received, all over-weight (thanks Wertu!). They all stink in the best possible way.
- Big stones
- Blue powder
- Pills
- Pre ban
Detailed reviews to follow this week. Gagging with excitement!
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Just placed an order for a sample pack. Can't wait to try this stuff, the product range this vendor has also looks promising.
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Recieved in 4 days to UK, overweight by lots, smells like mmmmm, Will update after trying this weekend.
as said above
- Big stones
- Blue powder
- Pills
- Pre ban
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Sample received to UK. Took a while for some reason but looks and smells very good. Will update feedback and write a review over the coming days.
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Received my sample pack today, only took 5 days from overseas which included a weekend, I was quite impressed. Packaging was professional and neat, no issues there at all. Product included pills, blue powder, and big stones, it's really interesting to see the same substance in a variety of forms like that! Everything looks and smells amazing, can't wait to try and report back on quality. I also wanted to thank Wertu for giving out so many samples, and of such generous size. You are a stellar vendor and I have no doubts that you will do great here.
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Just got mine today, great packaging. Will update with a full report once I have the time to put it all together. The short version is: wertu is legit. Order from him and you won't be disappointed! :)
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It really looks great and all and i do have enough for a sample pack but I am really scared to risk any money on Mephedrone right now after being screwed over by "you know who" and then getting that garbage from one of the vendors he supplies.
I would love to order this and do a detailed honest review and promote you in my threads and the mephedrone threads and in your threads.
I like to promote new vendors and help buyers find credible vendors.
One of the cons about this anonymous thing here is people can go make up new accounts and be someone different. Is there any way for me to be sure that you are not limitless, the UK vendor?
Hi Mike,
Sorry that you had this bad experience with some vendor here. I'm new on the road and haven't even heard about 'limitless' before.
The reason why I'm here is, to make money! Quality products and good customer service is the bottom line of this. I'll never going to screw you. It doesn't worth it and I believe in karma. ;)
PM me on silk road and I will prove that you can trust me.
W.
hey Wertu I sent you a pm on the road.
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Ok, here is my full review:
First off, I'd like to say that this sample pack is one of the best sample deals I have yet to see on SR. Seriously. Anyone that disagrees is probably coming off of a long binge and is cranky. It arrived very quickly to the East Coast USA (about 5 days). Communication before arrival was quick and concise. Packaging was somewhat stealthy but could be better. I'd rate it at 3/5. Let's just say I didn't really have to "search" for the product. I don't think this is a point anyone should be concerned about, but I just think this is feedback to the vendor that the packaging could be a bit stealthier. Whatever, it arrived just fine.
Upon opening the package I found:
-A generously weighed baggie of the blue powder
-A generously weighed baggie of the meph crystal (or rocks, whatever people want to call em)
-THREE (not two) beautifully pressed meph pills
As soon as I opened the vacuum-sealed bag, I understood why it was vacuum-sealed. Out came the unmistakable and lovely stench of mephedrone. I mean this was a STRONG smell. I opened up the bag with the powdered blue meph and took out a small, reasonable size dose and insufflated it. Burn wasn't as strong as other meph and the powder was very fluffy. Drip didn't taste bad either.
It took exactly 3 minutes and 30 seconds for it to come on, and when it did, WHOO did it come! I was blasted by pure "I FEEL FUCKING GREAT" euphoria which went along wonderfully to the music I was listening to and the people I was chatting with online (you know who you are ;)). The euphoria was very clean and smooth. It lasted about an hour and a half before dropping down into a feeling of residual stimulation. I was still feeling good, but the euphoria was definitely over. Mind you, this was a smallish dose and since it was later on into the night I decided not to redose. Definitely think one more redose would have been nice, of course. I personally prefer mephedrone over cocaine, but wouldn't necessarily take it over MDMA. Although I am interested in trying wertu's pills, as that will be the first time I try orally dosed mephedrone. Not sure if this was me or the drug, but as the comedown continued, I had achy joints and muscles in my arms. Could have been other things, but I definitely noticed these pains and discomforts when the drug wore off. Also was unable to get sleep for several hours after doing that single dose. I decided not to take a benzo, but I think it would have been necessary to take something to help me sleep.
Overall, I think this is a vendor that we all need to start paying attention to. The quality of the packaging (not stealth) and the product were top notch. Couldn't ask for any better. I thought it was kinda strange that the powder was blue, but there's crazy variation of color with these drugs so I'll just shrug and let someone else that knows more about powder color comment on that bit. The pill press is very good. The pills aren't falling apart anytime soon and are unmarked. Almost look like aspirin.
Thank you wertu, you've gained another loyal customer and advocate.
<3
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Ok, here is my full review:
First off, I'd like to say that this sample pack is one of the best sample deals I have yet to see on SR. Seriously. Anyone that disagrees is probably coming off of a long binge and is cranky. It arrived very quickly to the East Coast USA (about 5 days). Communication before arrival was quick and concise. Packaging was somewhat stealthy but could be better. I'd rate it at 3/5. Let's just say I didn't really have to "search" for the product. I don't think this is a point anyone should be concerned about, but I just think this is feedback to the vendor that the packaging could be a bit stealthier. Whatever, it arrived just fine.
Upon opening the package I found:
-A generously weighed baggie of the blue powder
-A generously weighed baggie of the meph crystal (or rocks, whatever people want to call em)
-THREE (not two) beautifully pressed meph pills
As soon as I opened the vacuum-sealed bag, I understood why it was vacuum-sealed. Out came the unmistakable and lovely stench of mephedrone. I mean this was a STRONG smell. I opened up the bag with the powdered blue meph and took out a small, reasonable size dose and insufflated it. Burn wasn't as strong as other meph and the powder was very fluffy. Drip didn't taste bad either.
It took exactly 3 minutes and 30 seconds for it to come on, and when it did, WHOO did it come! I was blasted by pure "I FEEL FUCKING GREAT" euphoria which went along wonderfully to the music I was listening to and the people I was chatting with online (you know who you are ;)). The euphoria was very clean and smooth. It lasted about an hour and a half before dropping down into a feeling of residual stimulation. I was still feeling good, but the euphoria was definitely over. Mind you, this was a smallish dose and since it was later on into the night I decided not to redose. Definitely think one more redose would have been nice, of course. I personally prefer mephedrone over cocaine, but wouldn't necessarily take it over MDMA. Although I am interested in trying wertu's pills, as that will be the first time I try orally dosed mephedrone. Not sure if this was me or the drug, but as the comedown continued, I had achy joints and muscles in my arms. Could have been other things, but I definitely noticed these pains and discomforts when the drug wore off. Also was unable to get sleep for several hours after doing that single dose. I decided not to take a benzo, but I think it would have been necessary to take something to help me sleep.
Overall, I think this is a vendor that we all need to start paying attention to. The quality of the packaging (not stealth) and the product were top notch. Couldn't ask for any better. I thought it was kinda strange that the powder was blue, but there's crazy variation of color with these drugs so I'll just shrug and let someone else that knows more about powder color comment on that bit. The pill press is very good. The pills aren't falling apart anytime soon and are unmarked. Almost look like aspirin.
Thank you wertu, you've gained another loyal customer and advocate.
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Thank you Zipstyle the detailed review.
One thing that I would like to comment is, about our packaging.
Your order was on the really beginning of our SR carrier. We were just not enough experienced on the packaging field. However since than we've developed our packaging a lot and I can say it works out pretty well.
Cheers.
W.
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Here is the feedback I have Wertu for the sample pack.
Very fast delivery, 3 businessdays.
Very well packed, the three zip baggies in 2 larger zip baggies and that in a thick non see through vacuum seal.
1 pill is 220mg, got 2
Rocky meph was 505mg
blue-ish powder was 0.443mg
But since this is a free sample doesn't matter actually.
The 3 different forms of meph, light blue-ish very fine powder, solid little rocks and the 2 pills (not hard pressed, one broken but does not bother me) look intriguing.
Overall very pleased with this seller so far.
Will update when tested.
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My sample was very well received so I have ordered a larger amount. Will write a full review on this order as no one else seems to have posted one from a proper order.
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My sample was very well received so I have ordered a larger amount. Will write a full review on this order as no one else seems to have posted one from a proper order.
That would be great! You suppose to receive it in a couple days.
Have a nice day.
W.
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Got my sample in a bit under a week to the East Coast. Not exceptionally stealthy but I think he's mentioned already that he's taken that into account now. I got three pills, some crystal, and powder all packaged up professionally and neatly. Definite distinct smell when you open the bag. All looks legit. Pretty damn generous sample too I'd add.
Haven't got to try it yet, but should be able to tomorrow. Will give an update when I do.
Thanks for the sample wertu.
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Well firstly - Wertu is a legend, speedy delivery and generous samples.
I have finally been able to test out some of the products tonight and I am very impressed indeed, currently flying!
Blue powder: The consistency and smell of this one is very much like 'bubble luv' from a few years ago, it's a bit more clumpy than the other rock/crystal types. Snorted a 70mg line which got me going very nicely, definitely the expected meph euphoria which feels like pure excitement, even though it was slightly clumpy went up just fine, drip wasn't too bad and kicked in after a couple of minutes.
It feels clean, energetic and horny, followed with 150mg dropped which kicked in about 35-40 mins later, very nice :) music sounding great and want to fuck the world!
Big stones: Crushes down very finely in to powder and goes up nice and easy, slight sting, nice drip. Nice and energetic, kicked in faster than the blue but of similar strength and experience. It's been a long time since I felt so convincingly on Meph, once again surprisingly clean feeling but potent, very nice indeed!
Will be trying the pills and pre-ban in a few days time and will report back, but so far so fucking good! Will be placing an order before the Easter holiday for sure.
We have a new contender guys. Thanks again Wertu, I look forward to doing lots of business with you over the next months.
Now back to the music/games/porn/chat/computer fixing..
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I ordered a sample pack and it was very good. The pills, the powder and the crystal so I went for it and ordered 25g of crystal.
Packaging was good. 4/5. No smell leaked and it should have been convincing to any nosey customs people.
Product 5/5 Overweight and smells so strong. Looks identical to the sample I ordered which was potent stuff. Also got some freebies which is always nice. Keep the customers happy is always a good business model to follow.
Delivery time to UK was less than a week which is fine for me. Some people seemed to receive theirs faster than mine so I doubt that is Wertu's fault. Will be ordering again soon. ;D
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I was a very naughty boy and did all of my sample in one night.
The blue was clumpy, taste not the best but the effects were phenomenal.
The crystal was much easier to snort and got me even more fucked.
at 6 am sunday morning I had a pill and that kept me going till 1 pm when i crashed.
will definitely be placing a much larger order as Wertu's stuff is gold. ( pity i kept fiending for more)
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Apologies to Wertu for the time taken to post. I've not had the opportunity to test too much yet but felt bad not posting here.
I placed an order from another European Meph vendor a day or 2 before Wertu posted here. I contacted Wertu, explained I'd like the opportunity to compare the two and so far, Wertu's is the only one to show up. As mentioned previously, the packaging wasn't particularly 'stealth' but perfectly adequate and professional looking to get through customs and be delivered quickly and safely (Wertu has already responded to this point and said he was updating his packaging). I opened the outer seal (not gonna go in to detail!) and BAM! the smell hit me. It certainly smells good!
Never having seen anything like it before, it was the blue powder which caught my attention first. Eager to sample, I decided to take a small amount orally (I'm talking a tiny test for allergic reaction amount (OK, maybe I just had to sample a little bit more)) and surprisingly I did feel a small stimulant boost, not what I expected from such a tiny amount. I am planning on insufflating more of the blue today.
I also received some other products from Wertu as well. The pills are perfectly pressed, very professional looking and completely intact. Clearly a professional pill press. The big rock was in fact all big rocks, not a bag of crumbled powder. Finally the pre-ban was smaller rocks and crystals.
All in all, very impressed so far. I have received too many orders of products looking like chunks/rocks/crystals in the pictures on SR but are received as a powder apparently 'crushed for stealth'. It's nice to see things arrive looking exactly as they did in the photo on SR. I will post to update as I test more of the products but I really feel like it's been a thumbs up 5/5 so far...
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Ordered a sample, but can you guys explain as precisely as you can his products differences ?
Not easy to choose among his listings.
Best choice would be crystal, regarding quality / price ratio, right ? ( http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/e51b67a8a8 )
thanks,
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i received my sample from Wertu today.
very well packaged and professional. and very generous on the samples (.5 g each of both rocks/powder and 2x pills).
im saving the pills for the weekend so will edit then...
the rock crystal has that signature smell to it and breaks and chops very easily and is quite easy on the nose(slight sting but nice) and has a familiar tasting drip. its up there with Lims quality but is hard to compare as they look so different....
the blue stuff made me a tad jittery and a slightly painful chest but this could be cos i tried a line of both :D
Wertu was excellent to communicate with and was polite and professional and very generous as he re sent the sample after i cocked up the shipping address (thanks Wertu...)
product: 8/10(rocks) comms 10/10 stealth 10/10 best ive seen so far on SR
thanks! ::)
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Wertu definitely has some legit stuff!
First off, it arrived after only four days which is fucking awesome for int'l. Secondly the packaging was pretty supreme, no chance of any smell leaking out of it.
What I received were two bags with a little over half a gram of meph in each of them and two pills (slightly crushed, but definitely no big deal). Since I don't have too much experience with meph I decided to start small and eat about a quarter of a pill to start, figuring I can always eat more. Within about 15-20 minutes of eating it I was gelling pretty good, rocking out to some music and all that good stuff. Over the next few hours I continue to eat about a pill + change worth, go to the beach with my headphones on and just rock out for a good few hours.
The pill had me going good for approx 6-8 hours. Had a little trouble going to sleep and slight jaw lock, but nothing too bad. Wertus stuff is definitely balls to the walls good, really looking forward to trying the other two samples with some buddies at some point.
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Just edited my SR feedback for you. Thank you so much! This stuff is amazing. Maybe even better than Goldust's product.
5/5 for everything man the stealth is better then vac seal and would get thru x-rays easily. It came very quickly just as James Hardens Beard says. It blended in great with my other incoming mail.
IT was .55 on weight for the rocky drone. Check out my pic:
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/8zd.jpg
The blue was .60 on weight and here's the pic:
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/8zt.jpg
I also got the two pills and will do the review on them as well. They were all in separates and the 2 pills were in tact
I've tried some of the rocky crystals and used a card to crush them down into a powder then cut out a couple of lines from that.I did around 100mg insufflated and so did my brother. We both have dilated pupils right now and we did the lines 30 minutes ago. This is definitely some higher quality drone that I have ever done. The taste and drain is a slight chemical taste but very easy to tolerate and the rush starts coming on with in 5 minutes and builds up and gets stronger from there. So far this has been an excellent transaction from wertu and i appreciate it so much! I feel great!
I been researching on erowid and so I am fighting any urges to redose and from what I've red it's first dose is the best dose and so it may be better to stretch it out so to get the best effects from it each time. When I come down from this high I will try the blue and report back to you all.
Thanks wertu I will pm you when I have you featured in my TopVendorsThread title with my review on the last page. I may run a contest for you to try to help you get more buyers.. I will post this review in the rumor mill meph threads now
edit: Just posted my review in the rumor mill here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=105759.0
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/664d58cebf
I fucking LOL'ed hard at that name, I'm too high for this shit :D
Now waiting for sample pack, I'm especially interested in these pills because I've never tried mephedrone orally. Also wertu could you tell why one batch is blue, is it impure or just got such colour from synthesis?
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Hey wertu I have tried the blue and didn't think very highly of it. However, I love the pills better then the rocky meph and will be looking to get more. I noticed it says on your page that they are 220-230 mg. One made me feel great for about 4 hours. It hit me differently then snorting the others. So for me there's a difference with taking it orally but all of us here loved the rocky meph. I wish I had some of it left to swallow instead of snorting it.
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Firstly a big thanks to Wertu for the sample!
The packaging was great and thankfully smell proof enough because man did this stuff smell :D I received the package within 4 days of ordering to the UK.
I tried the blue meph. 1st. Overweight :)
It was quite wet compared to other meph. I've had before and reeked of pre-ban! I did two small lines to begin the night both of which I found to be a little harsh shooting right to the top of my nose. The onset was fairly quick. I shared it out amongst a few friends who all gave positive reviews. Overall pretty good stuff but I much preferred the rocky stuff.
Tried the rocky stuff a few nights later and had a much better night with it. Much smoother up the nose and, for me, a more enjoyable high. Kept me and a friend going all night and into the early morning!
I was unsure as to what to expect with the pills having never ingested Meph. before and found myself pleasantly surprised! I split the 3 (bonus one included.... thank you) between me and a friend. The onset was very smooth and I didn't feel any sort of stomach discomfort. After about 35 minutes the effects had full taken hold and I felt on a good level, as though I'd done 2+ good lines. I'd recommend these for anyone who likes meph. but itsn't a big fan of the smell.
I'll definitely be giving the rocky stuff another order sometime soon!
Thanks again Wertu!
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I would just like to say that I am very excited to try these meph pills! I think the perfect occasion is coming up, so I look forward to updating this thread with that report.
In the meanwhile, I have sampled the rock meph and have found that although it burns more (in my opinion) than the blue meph, it felt a bit stronger. I was surprised at how much powder came from a small crystal. It was the biggest rail of meph I have yet to do!
I've come to the conclusion that taking meph orally might end up being the best route. Doing just one small line is fine but any more than that and you end up messing up your nose and the duration feels like only 1.5 hours sometimes less.
Wertu is the man to go to for anything meph. I highly recommend him!
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As i received a sample pack, i agree with you guys but now wertu requires to FE ?
I was going to order 25g but i don't want to FE..
Any explanation ?
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same... I never do FE... I think that i'm reputable enough to stay in full escrow? :) Much love,
acidsoldier
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Yea I been burned by FE enough but I am watching his sr feedback to see if those that FE are getting their orders. I would like to place an order for the rocky meph tomorrow. I wander if we could FE after we get a trck number on express shipping?
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Just had some communication with WERTU and I expressed my concern about FE.
He told me he's working on a new and most likely more fair FE policy...So I think he'll probably change this new FE rule.
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Wertu is the man if u r constant customer ! He has amazing approaching with customers, best drone on SR imo. Much love bro ! :)
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Received the sample, 2 pills and half a gram of blue meph and the rocky meph.
Rocky Stone meph: This stuff is the real fucking deal. It does not fuck around. This has to be the closest to preban I've ever been, in fact it may be the exact same as preban. The only thing is, I was sniffing Limitless's stuff right before sniffing the sample. Which i think was a good idea because I was able to directly compare them, one after the other. I've already explained how I feel about Lims product - it's shit hot, cleaner than anything I've had, but the euphoria is less than traditional Chinese preban cause of the impurities. Then I decided I would try the rocky stuff. It broke up very easily, but was also nice to see it in rock form and not 'crushed before packaging'. I put out maybe 100mg, sniffed it up and could almost instantly feel how intense this stuff was, so I had another 100mg cause I knew this shit was about to hit hard. It was 'more-ish' - not to say it was uncontrollable by any means, but the urge to take more was definitely greater than with Lims stuff. The high was more intense I would say, also when I looked at my friends after giving them a line they were pulling some seriously funny faces. It was harder to control facial expressions and pretend I wasn't on it. This was definetely like the mephedrone of old, if anyone remembers the 'hot and cold' sensations that happened with pre-ban mephedrone, like one minute you're fucking roasting then the next minute you're hanging out the window with no shirt on? This stuff is good quality product folks, order with confidence.
Blue Meph: To be honest I maybe didn't give this stuff a chance, and ended up giving it to some friends. I took maybe a few 150mg lines, the burn was so much harsher than the other stuff I had lying around at the time. I had 25g of Lims UC, half a gram of Wertu's Rocky stone mephedrone, and 2 of his pills. So needless to say, i was going to sniff the stuff which had the least burn. This stuff was what i would describe as floury, powdery mephedrone. Burns like fuck, and has some sort of petrolium smell coming from it? It's hard to distinguish what the slight taint in smell/taste is, but it smells kinda like petrol or something lol. The high from this was good, wouldn't say as strong as the Stone and maybe more tweaky?
Mephedrone Pills: I got 2 in the free sample, and when I placed another order for mephedrone, Wertu has kindly given me another 2 pills to try. And I am thankful he has, this will allow me to assess these pills fairly. By the time I tried the pills, I had been awake for 48 hours, had sniffed about 8 grams of UC and all of Wertu's samples. Needless to say when I took the pill the next night it didn't do much, but that was my fault.
I think over my 3 day weekend bender, I've friend my brain and there simply wasn't enough serotonin left for me to get anything from it. As the days went on, I was railing 0.2-0.3mg lines every half an hour or so, and it wasn't really doing shit towards the end. Which is a shame considering how much I've probably wasted doing this. When i recharge the old drug receptors I'll give those pills a fair change and come back and review them properly.
As for packaging, this guy has his shit together. You really don't need to worry about that one, my friend didn't have a clue what had come through his door at first, and then he realised. It toom about 4 days to the UK, outstanding for an international order.
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Received the sample today. Package was super-ultra-stealth, even after opening it most people would still not find there are drugs! Clever as fuck.
After opening the vacuum seal bag the really strong meph smell goes on whole room, but before there was no smell at all. Keep in mind that the goodies was inside 4 zip bags and still it was smelling really hard through them.
Big rocks (yabba-dabba-doo ;D) meph is the ultimate quality stuff. Back in the preban days I've had a friend who co-operated in production of 4-MMC for like half of my country, so every time he had with him some straight from the lab cristals.
These Big Rocks works exactly the same, I'm amazed because I'm as high as in my first meph experiences yet I have some stimulant tolerance right now so was rather thinking it'll work weak.
Blue powder is not for me, it is so well wrecked that when sniffing line it gets me choking. I've sniffed 200mg of Big Rock in one line in one go, but 100mg of this blue was inside my head after 4 small bumps because of choking too much. Another thing - it could be placebo but I feel way more phisical stimulation with blue stuff.
Got also 2pills but don't know if I try them or give to friends. Wertu you could tell how much of meph they have inside. Pills weight 225mg each.
So guys, I got 535mg of Big Stone, 550mg of Blue powder, and 2x meph pills. For 3$. This is the most generous drug dealer ever.
Now I know who to ask first if I ever need any mephedrone!
PS.After sniffing that 200mg of Big Rocks on onset I completely understand why you called it yabba-dabba-doo ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpGx4foRdPw
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Will hopefully be testing the pills soon, but I've gotta say that the rocky meph is definitely SUPER euphoric and sexual. I would say the powder is a little less potent and almost equally euphoric. More speedy though. I really can't say anything that rambaski hasn't said yet.
This stuff is the real fucking deal. It does not fuck around.
I will definitely be posting a review once I try out the pills, I'm always thorough with all my reviews. Plus, with the quality work that WERTU is puttin out, that's the least I can do!
Much love.
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Got around to trying the blue powder and white rocks over the last couple days. As others have said the rocks have a slightly stronger euphoric feeel and go up the nose a lot easier, but the blue has a little more of a speedy feel and is not bad on its own. I still haven't tried Lim's meph yet, so I can't say how it compares, but this stuff is definitely the real deal.
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PS.After sniffing that 200mg of Big Rocks on onset I completely understand why you called it yabba-dabba-doo ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpGx4foRdPw
lol +1 man that's pretty cool
wertu is giving a prize for the best review and we are working out the details but here's the link:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=134887.0
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Bored at work I decided to drop a half a pill an hour ago then the other half just now. OMG, I feel so f'ing good ;D and I can still feel it building and getting stronger and stronger.... I'm LOVING them!! Even more so that fact they didn't have to go anywhere near my nose! WOW!!!!
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I should not even have to point something this obvious out to you people, but from reading the reports so far in this thread the "shining blue mephedrone" and the "big rock mephedrone" are two entirely separate chemicals.
Also, actual crystallized 4-MMC is known for having an extremely euphoric rush, with lots of tachycardia while the powdered 4-MMC was known to be smoother and longer lasting. This was entirely due to the crystallized 4-MMC tearing up your nasal membranes and entering your blood stream quicker, while the powdered 4-MMC was absorbed more slowly. Some of you are reporting the opposite of that, which is illogical.
Have fun snorting unknown drugs. From reading some of these posts and their descriptions I am guessing that at least one of the chemicals in the sampler is 4-fluoromethcathinone (4-FMC) aka Flephedrone.
What are you saying? The big crystalised rocks are 4-MMC?
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We shared the sample pack which was a generous 0.5g blue and 1g big rocks plus 3 pills.
The blue stuff was rather underwhelming, lacking the typical meph rush.
The big crystals were great, sensual and euphoric.
We had a good and relaxed comedown with 9mg Moxy each in the end.
Will definitely order the big rocks again.
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I should not even have to point something this obvious out to you people, but from reading the reports so far in this thread the "shining blue mephedrone" and the "big rock mephedrone" are two entirely separate chemicals.
Also, actual crystallized 4-MMC is known for having an extremely euphoric rush, with lots of tachycardia while the powdered 4-MMC was known to be smoother and longer lasting. This was entirely due to the crystallized 4-MMC tearing up your nasal membranes and entering your blood stream quicker, while the powdered 4-MMC was absorbed more slowly. Some of you are reporting the opposite of that, which is illogical.
Have fun snorting unknown drugs. From reading some of these posts and their descriptions I am guessing that at least one of the chemicals in the sampler is 4-fluoromethcathinone (4-FMC) aka Flephedrone.
ugh what an annoying post.
your 'deduction' that one of the chemicals in the sample is 4-FMC based on subjective descriptions by samplers is groundless. If you're gonna come on here and talk down to us about trying 'unknown' drugs, then at least order them yourself and perform the necessary chemical tests.
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Bored at work I decided to drop a half a pill an hour ago then the other half just now. OMG, I feel so f'ing good ;D and I can still feel it building and getting stronger and stronger.... I'm LOVING them!! Even more so that fact they didn't have to go anywhere near my nose! WOW!!!!
WOW, was my post so bad that I get -Karma ?????? Sorry guys, I thought it was a thread for posting thoughts about Wertu's products... Maybe I should keep quiet next time. Could make it little difficult to review them though!
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O.k, My Review ;D
I have seen all the free samples flying around with all the great reviews so i just ordered 5g right away, didnt even ask for a sample.
Little background: Im very familiar with cathinones since about 2003 (the Hagigat craze that was in israel), and been doing than 100's of grams, than stopped, and the next time i did was just a few ordered i got from SR at 2012 - 2013 of whats suppose to be 4-MMC.
For the last month and a half i did not do ANY drug and lived a pretty healthy life (healthy food etc) due to simple medical condition so i have zero tolerance to all drugs and this is my first high after this break.
Now than i have tried all that i have received today i have the pleasure of reviewing wertu's stuff:
Communication: Didnt need any :) just ordered - than i saw the "FE" rule so i PM'ed wertu stating my buyer stats and he had no problem that i stay in escrow. and also Pm'ed to thank him for the free bonus he added in the letter which he replied kindley.
Shipping time: The fastest i have ever had from abroad - and i mean SR and IRL. really damn quick (~3 days).
Price: pretty cheap (90$ for 5g)
Bonus: wertu was kind enough to add also 2 of the meph pills inside the pack which made me very happy! (i have no idea how he is giving so many freebee's - probably have some cathinones super-lab)
Package: packed great and very discreet - which was important cause i had it shipped to a place it had the possibility of being open, so its good the stuff wasn't obvious.
Meph itself: Very cool rocks! i love it! i never seen meph looking like that, very typical cathinones smell, rocks are easy to crush to fine and dry powder, burns like always when snorted, not too bad.
The effects: Well to be honest, i have seen Allegedly Mephedrones that are WAY stronger than this one - it does the trick, but not too much euphoria, mostly head speed and some empathy + nice relaxing stimulation, not much of a comedown (and i have snorted a decent amount to begin with), also there is none of this "horney feeling" when you feel warm in the balls when doing cathinones.
Edit later: at later time i just started "eating" (swallowing) the rocks to see what happens - unfortunately it wasn't much, snorting did a much better nose - and i must say that after doing quite a bit today my nose is in better condition than i expected. i will stop for today cause it seems i can consume this whole 5g LOL
So im not VERY impressed from the strength - but it sure is still fun! (i don't really care as im very occasional user and dont need to be blasted)
The Pill: Another Cool idea! I have never been a big fan of bombing but they look so nice, by the smell and taste its clear that they are made from the same stuff :) , pretty relaxed and fun high, not very strong, and i bombed it along with another capsule i filled up. i guess i will crush the other one and snort it.
- the good side of the "not-too-much-strong euphoria" is that fiending is very easy to avoid, which is a blessing when it comes to cathinones ::)
Overall: when calculating all the points - i think this is a great deal for this price and anyway, enjoyable, even that i 't think its far from being the strongest cathinone (im saying cathinone cause you can never me sure if its meph or some other), im very impressed by this seller and would order hes "pre-ban" for sure to try in the future.
so score is: 9/10 , Highly recommended!
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Well I have ordered a sample pack and FE'd. Now to wait a few days and see what happens. I am a bit confused as to why this vendor is giving away so many free samples.
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My vote pole in my TopVendors list is still for wertu's mephedrone. I posted the other vote in my movie review section lol I must have been buzzed when I posted that here but really yea.
Hey Frank it's a good sign of being a great new vendor when they are so willing to get their product out there by giving frr samples. One other example is jesusofrave(JOR) and you can see how successful he is now. Wertu has sent me a sample of his pre ban and it has been in transit for a couple days now so I can't wait to let everyone know about it.
Here is the link where there will be a vote by the community or a voter's committee on the best review for wertu's product and wertu is giving away a free gift code for the winner:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=134887.0
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ordered 5g of rock from him last friday. It was marked as being in transit on monday. Unfortunately I didn't read the top of his vendor page where he says he now requires FE for all customers. He just sent me a message today, asking me to finalize early. I did, but do you guys think this means that he didn't actually send it out when he put it transit on monday? Still haven't gotten a response from him
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Update to my above review:
when tried these products (rocks meph) and pills a couple of days ago i was kinda disappointed as described above,
today, i popped one of the pills and pretty much felt nothing for like 40 minutes so i was disappointed again - than i started snorting lines, pretty small ones, and BOOM! im high as fuck, great euphoria and all, talking shit and giving my wife an hour of foot massge (still no horney feeling....) and keeping myself pretty high with very small re-doses every 20 minutes or so....
Weird, i guess my brain is a bit fucked so it didnt work 2 days ago and working great now...
but hey, can't complain of course, nice stuff :)
Also last thing i want to add is that meph has the most non-existing comedown i have had from stimulants and i never had such an easy time falling asleep on a cathinone like i had with this substance, which is a big relief for me :)
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Hey guys
Just ordered some grams of wertu's Big Rocks Meph. Am a very experienced meph user (from 2007 - 2009 it was one of the only drugs I did apart from lsd) and will write up a full report on its potency once it arrives.
<3
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ordered 5g of rock from him last friday. It was marked as being in transit on monday. Unfortunately I didn't read the top of his vendor page where he says he now requires FE for all customers. He just sent me a message today, asking me to finalize early. I did, but do you guys think this means that he didn't actually send it out when he put it transit on monday? Still haven't gotten a response from him
I don't know but I ordered 2 grams of the rocks and FE'd as soon as it would let me which is when he puts it in transit. I trust him and his page talks about scammers being the reason for his FE policy. I'm expecting it to get here just as last time and I'm hoping it will get here just as fast lol and the stealth he used last time should get thru pretty easy. I sure appreciate the samples he gave us for free.
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ordered 5g of rock from him last friday. It was marked as being in transit on monday. Unfortunately I didn't read the top of his vendor page where he says he now requires FE for all customers. He just sent me a message today, asking me to finalize early. I did, but do you guys think this means that he didn't actually send it out when he put it transit on monday? Still haven't gotten a response from him
The same thing has happened to me, I placed the order on Monday and it was marked in-transit soon after, I was then asked to FE late Thurs night which I (reluctantly) did and am now wondering if it was sent out Monday or Friday...he got so far as to tell me it had been sent already but hasn't replied as to when yet, it is the weekend though to be fair and he has been spot-on with communications this far, God knows he's busy with the ridiculous amount of sample packs going out (mostly resulting in "FE - will update once tested").
I tend not to FE in general, especially now that I have the stats, but when I choose to take that risk I never FE until directly asked as I had a problem with Limetless after FE too soon, before he had noted my address, which resulted in a 2 month complication, at least I assume that's what happened to a few of us...
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Hello Guys,
I'm sorry for the a late update!!!
03.24.
The SAMPLING IS OVER :(
I've given out a decent amount of free products. I think a lot of people get to know them and I gained enough attention to my store!
Thank you all for trying my products and leaving nice reviews and feedback. Special Thanks for all who become regular customers!!!
From now I will have 0.5g listings from my products. If you are a new buyer You can order this first to try and see the quality, quantity, packaging etc. if you don't believe to the other customers reviews and feedback :))
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+1 wertu your meph rocks are great!
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I'm looking forward to get my order from this seller!
I was like :D when I got his PM's back.
Also, anyone from the Netherlands has ordered from him here?
I would love to hear after how much time it was there, because I'm really looking forward to test his stuff.
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Received my 5g across the big blue sea in exactly 1 week from shipment.
Wertu included 2 free pills, which, going from my experience with the sample pack, is a fairly substantial fairly substantial amount of free MCAT.
I ordered the Yabba Dabba Do! Flinstones rocks, and they do not disappoint. The biggest chunk of crystal weighs about 1.8g by itself. The bag weighs out to 5.3g. Again, quite a generous gesture.
The first time I used 4-mmc was March of 2012, so I'll admit that don't have a real idea of what "pre-ban" mephedrone is like. But I have a hard time believing that it could be much better than the stuff the Wertu is currently carrying.
An impeccable purchase; Looking forward to doing business again in the near future.
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Received my 5g across the big blue sea in exactly 1 week from shipment.
Aus ways? Wondering on times for Aus ways myself :)
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No shit baronvonm i feel about the same way. Take a look at these picks I cleaned.
pre-ban: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/8_0.jpg
weighed 1 gram thanks man I know you all are bout out of it. It is great tho just little bumps at a time can can give you lots of euphoria and it looks cool also. Good sized chunks that had to be broke up or crushed. I suspect you can eat it as well
flintstone and mec: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/8_3.jpg
That flint stone weighed 1.07 on mine and it's very high quality stuff.
The pre ban is awseome stuff. I really think I like the big flintstone better. It grinds perfect on a make shift radiator hose clamp grinder. You get such a massive amount when you grind that flintstone on it for just a short time. That rock is bad ass I'll still have a lot of it when the others are gone.
I took the pill an hour ago and I feel amazing so I am searching for the words. All I can say for now is That those pills should be getting more money for ya I mean wow man They are very strong and the stuff hits you differently then snorting it
I haven't tried the 4mec but I'll talk about it after i try it. I can tell ya'll it weighed .58 and looks like it's ready to toot powder.
5/5 for stealthiness order with confidence guys because his stealth is going to get thru your customs.. He's the new go to guy for the best Flintstones on the road! Mine was around the 7 or eight day mark Wertu has done great so far. The pill has my eyes so dilated and it's not
like psychedelic trips but it is a huge wave of euphoria that last three hours and longer. I took it 2 and a half hours ago and I know by how i am feeling now that I'll be feeling it for at least 2 more hours. I'd call this a fucking roll man Music is incredible right now.
But I am not saying it's just like MDMA. It's not. It's like it's on the same playing field as MDMA but it's Euphoria feels different. I am feeling great from that one pill that is rated at 230 mg according to your page. Nice dosage! Folks you need to be somewhere safe and not plan on driving for at least 5 hours after you swallow one of these bad boys. There's a tolerance for this mephedrone right so maybe it is like mdma as far as just taking the pills only once a week I don't know yet.
5'5 on the pre ban it was great. Small but thick chunky beige crystals. It was my first time with pre ban so I started out with maybe a 40 or 50 mg line. I'm glad I did a small line because that stuff is fire. Just a small bump will have you walking around on cloud nine and gives you loads of energy. One of the best appetite suppressors I've ever done. Never had the urge to eat or drink anything for 4 hours. It doesn't cause your lips to get all dried up and chalky looking like that dammed ice. It's totally different then Crystal meth but yea I know it's still classified as a research chemical but imho it's the best one I've tried. It aint nothing like ice. Ice is a lot more hard core than this compound. This pills give you a few good hours of waves of relaxing euphoria. But 4 hours after snorting that 40 mg of the pre ban is when I forced myself to eat and drink something. I had a lot of energy all night but wasn't sweating or having any body cramps.
At the 4 hour mark I did another 30 mg of pre ban same method of administration and the taste became evident in the back of my throat. The drip from the Flint stone powder was a lot more bitter and harder to handle. It also burned a little more then the pre ban but it was not as bad as the burn from snorting ice. It's quite tolerable really and only last a few seconds. That Flint Stone is a Solid really hard chunk. I just grind it along my grinder without any pressure being applied. It grinds down to a flat side and does not even get close to trying to crumble up. I mean it's a hard ass rock and much better to not pressure it into becoming crumbs and it may break if I applied pressure.
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No shit baronvonm i feel about the same way. Take a look at these picks I cleaned.
Here some attempts at trying to take a worthy pic But they do not do this stuff justice.
pre-ban : http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/8_0.jpg
The Big flint stone setting beside the 4mec: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/8_3.jpg
I'm glad I got another order in with you before the road went down. I can't wait to let one of my trusted friends try some of this
pre-ban: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/8_0.jpg
weighed 1 gram thanks man I know you all are bout out of it. It is great tho just little bumps at a time can can give you lots of euphoria and it looks cool also. Good sized chunks that had to be broke up or crushed. I suspect you can eat it as well
flintstone and mec: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/8_3.jpg
That flint stone weighed 1.07 on mine and it's very high quality stuff.
The pre ban is awseome stuff. I really think I like the big flintstone better. It grinds perfect on a make shift radiator hose clamp grinder. You get such a massive amount when you grind that flintstone on it for just a short time. That rock is bad ass I'll still have a lot of it when the others are gone.
I took the pill an hour ago and I feel amazing so I am searching for the words. All I can say for now is That those pills should be getting more money for ya I mean wow man They are very strong and the stuff hits you differently then snorting it
I haven't tried the 4mec but I'll talk about it after i try it. I can tell ya'll it weighed .58 and looks like it's ready to toot powder.
5/5 for stealthiness order with confidence guys because his stealth is going to get thru your customs.. He's the new go to guy for the best Flintstones on the road! Mine was around the 7 or eight day mark Wertu has done great so far. The pill has my eyes so dilated and it's not
like psychedelic trips but it is a huge wave of euphoria that last three hours and longer. I took it 2 and a half hours ago and I know by how i am feeling now that I'll be feeling it for at least 2 more hours. I'd call this a fucking roll man Music is incredible right now.
Sorry just had to say that again lol but Dammit what an awesome edition to the community. Those Flint Stones are amazing and you'll have every body wanting to try it.
Update: Just checked and i was able to give you plus karma
Good Vibes
Feeling Fantastic listening to my favorite music list
In 3 days I'll +1 ya agin here's the pics again:
pre-ban: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/8_0.jpg
flintstone and mec: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/8_3.jpg
i'm featuring wertu's name in my thread now with this review on the last page and I'll be posting soon in the mephedrone vendors thread of the rumor mill. Let's see what happens then
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Mike, your report (along with a few others in this thread) is getting me quite excited about wertu's meph, especially being a huge drone connoisseur. Will be delighted once my package arrives and will definitely be giving a report of my own :)
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Just posted a long review for you at the mephedrone thread in the rumor mill:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=16266.1680
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Mike, your report (along with a few others in this thread) is getting me quite excited about wertu's meph, especially being a huge drone connoisseur. Will be delighted once my package arrives and will definitely be giving a report of my own :)
Well I am just being honest and yes it should excite you if you got some in transit now. I would not suggest taking 2 of those pills at a time but i guaranty you people will start doubling up on it when tolerance becomes a problem. I just can't get over how the pills have such stronger effects than snorting it but then again i have never snorted a 230 mg line either. Wertu's pills are a different animal.
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Ordered 25g of the rocks last Monday, posted last Tuesday and have just arrived now!
BRING ON THE WEEKEND!!!!!!
Thanks Wertu - you complete me.
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Ordered 25g of the rocks last Monday, posted last Tuesday and have just arrived now!
BRING ON THE WEEKEND!!!!!!
Thanks Wertu - you complete me.
That is awesome you got 25 of them rocks. Aww man everybody will go crazy over them rocks.
They are fabulous. I hope the price stays current for a while
+1 you lucky dog
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Well I am just being honest and yes it should excite you if you got some in transit now. I would not suggest taking 2 of those pills at a time but i guaranty you people will start doubling up on it when tolerance becomes a problem. I just can't get over how the pills have such stronger effects than snorting it but then again i have never snorted a 230 mg line either. Wertu's pills are a different animal.
I'm receiving the Big Stone (Yabba Dabba Doo) meph, not the pills. Are very experienced with meph, especially the pre-ban stuff, and have learnt through trial and error, when I've had enough/tollerance levels. Definitely looking forward to a pleasant time. Will be dosing with another ex meph fiend, and we both havent had any since it was banned a few years ago, so will be able to give a fairly accurate report on its strength.
Be safe 8)
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Wow man let me give ya some plus karma +1 yea you will enjoy the shit out of those giant Flintstones they are great!
They look small but they weigh heavy and i guess it's because they did a good job making it into Rocks. You can see in the picture where it sets next to the half gram 4mec but the flintstone weighed over a gram but when you look at it beside that mec it looks like it would not weigh a gram.
edit: There is you some karma to even you out for now. You'll love the yabba dabba doo rocks they are better than the pre ban
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Ordered 25g of the rocks last Monday, posted last Tuesday and have just arrived now!
BRING ON THE WEEKEND!!!!!!
Thanks Wertu - you complete me.
That is awesome you got 25 of them rocks. Aww man everybody will go crazy over them rocks.
They are fabulous. I hope the price stays current for a while
Thanks man!! So excited!
Also have just opened up the pack, firstly the stealth was excellent, the product was over-weight and some freebies too.
Order with confidence guys, happy Easter one and all!
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Yea I can see why he calls them Flintstones I believe they may turn out to be the best Mcat stones ever.
They are really euphoric at small doses snorted. They grind up good and they kick hard with a small dose. It works good on a radiator hose clamps. You just cut a section out of the clamp and then beat it straight with a hammer. Next you need a plate and with one of those boulders you start grinding it but don't put any pressure and light pressure if any. These rocks don't fall apart while your doing this and now all you need is a plastic card or something but it don't take but nine or ten motions across that make shift grinder to get 100 mg that will rock your world for a while!
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Just postin a very quick review about Wertu' sample pack.
I got 2 pills and 2 baggies of "rocks" and blue powder. Can't weigh as my scale just passed away.
Shipping time was excellent for OS (< 7 days) and packaging is good with a above average stealth i would say.
I'm not really into Meph, i had a lot of when i lived in europe but have never been a huge meph head.
What i tried yesterday (one pill and 1/3 of the stones snorting) got me some years ago. Def recognize these effects and feelings although it seems less potent than what i rememeber for 5 years ago) BUT i'm on fairly daily dose of opiates and that should be considered i guess.
Had a nice night with this high plus some beers, couldn't stop chatting and moving my ass on shitty pop music lol.
No comedown as sleep aid was a big line of n°4 as usual but this morning i'm feeling pretty good, slept well and woke up early now starting a random day with no side effects of yesterday high.
I don't think i would buy again or maybe very scarcely as i'll still prefer coke & md for "social" nights even if its not the same price but much love to wertu for being an efficient and reliable (from my small experience) vendor. Big Thanks for the samples, bless.
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edit: There is you some karma to even you out for now.
I feel.... balanced ;D
Also have just opened up the pack, firstly the stealth was excellent, the product was over-weight and some freebies too.
Order with confidence guys, happy Easter one and all!
And another congratulations, such a happy time when 25 gets through. Have fun, be safe and happy!
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Sample review-- Big crystal is the way to go out of the three. The blue shit is crazy, I have no idea what the hell is going on there other than it tastes and feels like a completely different substance, but this is my first experience with 4MMC so I have nothing to gauge it against. I can tell you it comes at least for the sample, as a light fluffy powder that shoots straight to the back of your head when you snort it, with a heavy chemical taste. I ordered 5g of the big crystal to put out there on my m1 customers and see if there's a market even though it's slightly more expensive.
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Placed an order yesterday, but still processing :( The reviews look excellent so prepared to wait :)
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Timmymallet: you will not be disappointed!
If you're familiar with rectal administration, i highly recommend you try it. One of the best euphoric rushes ever!
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I'm 7 days waiting for my sample to arrive to the UK. The reviews in this thread seem overwhelmingly positive so I am not worried, but still, 7 days...
I will update if/when it arrives.
UPDATE: Arrived after 10 days, which is absolutely fine considering where it is coming from. The 'blue' mephedrone is the only one I have tried so far. I wouldn't call it blue exactly, it has a very slight blueish tinge I suppose. It is good quality. The pills are nicely pressed, and the rocks look and smell good.
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I'm 7 days waiting for my sample to arrive to the UK. The reviews in this thread seem overwhelmingly positive so I am not worried, but still, 7 days...
I will update if/when it arrives.
I'm somewhere from that part of the world too.
I'm waiting 3 days already ;)
Seller said 4 to 10 days, can't wait to try his product!
His reviews are looking way too awesome to try!
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im waiting here in southern hemisphere for 9days now and have easter to get past... dying to try his stuff, reading some great reviews... poor guy must be so fkn busy right now!
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Did anyone else enjoy the 4MEC? I sure did. I only shared a small line with one person lol. Everything is gone except for maybe 190mg of the big stone. I had the day off yesterday and binged a little hahaha.
Woke up this morning and didn't know where the fuck I was at but I was in my bed lol. When I got off work the day before I started in on it and so I did not sleep that night at all and then yesterday I was off and had some fun with it. Reached my tolerance level so I am waiting a few days to finish it up.
For me I think I like swallowing it better. I do like to snort stuff but this stuff gave me a better experience when swallowed orally. It was a lot like taking an X pill which I love. I'm thinking that it may be less harmful to the body then mdma and gonna try to find out about it's nuero toxicity. I just now put it on my scales and actually I have 190 mg left of the flintstone so it's pretty close to the 230 mg pill and the pill had to have a binder in it right? Those pills were great I shared them with my bro and he liked it as well and he don't like the mdma I have shared with him since being on the road. He also says that the pill had much better results then snorting the drone. He has never enjoyed the MDMA i have gotten. It just isn't his thing. If I knew that tolerance wouldn't be an issue I would swallow this 190 mg now but I'd rather wait and be sure to have a good role.
Hey zipstyle I never tried anything like that but I bet you did have a great experience. How long did it take to start coming up? I'm just curious as to your experience. Was it like mdma to you? I felt like I was rolling hard for about three hours and then a couple more hours of coming down.
Does anyone know if there is a cross tolerance with this and mdma?
I definitely want a couple more of those FlintStones. It may be a better alternative to buying MDMA since MDMA prices are much higher. I will be making a few 200 mg caps. Those pills he sent were great. Took about 30 minutes form me to notice the come up. Lasted a good 3 or 4 hours and this is after I had done some earlier by snort method. I really want to say I liked it better than MDMA but it's a bit too soon to say that. I'm gonna swallow this bit I have left maybe Sunday night and then I'll know if I like it better than X or not plus I will find out about what people know about it's harmful effects.
I liked the 4mec but I snorted all of it so has anybody tried to take it any other way and can report on it? I liked it better then the blue powder but not as much as the big stones. Yea I can't wait to eat this 190 mg I got left. Does anyone else got any info about the tolerance issue?
I want to give out a giant THANKYOU!! to wertu and I'll be your regular buyer. Thanks friend
P.S-the pre ban was great too but I liked the big stone better. I wish I had swallowed some of the pre ban. Oh yea I gave away a 200 mg chunk from the big stone to a guy who was hell bent on shooting it. I have not talked to him since but I did see him driving down the road earlier. Maybe I'll call him up in the morning. He said tho that there would be 2 of them IVing it. I straight up told him that there's no way I'd shoot all that at once. I don't shoot anything anymore anyway but if I was still a banger I really don't know how much I would risk but not no where near 200 mg. Maybe 30 or 50 mg with the least amount of water. I don't even know if this stuff dissolves good in water
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@Mike
I never liked mdma either. Not to say it isn't enjoyable, but it always left me feeling stripped. Meph on the other hand I found a lot more gentle with a much more enjoyable high.
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3 days to UK. I am resolving an issue with the weight of my most recent order but I have no worries with wertu sorting it out.
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3 days to UK. I am resolving an issue with the weight of my most recent order but I have no worries with wertu sorting it out.
Wow, only 3 days?!
Looks amazing fast!
I'll go and check my address tomorrow then!
Really want to try his stuff!
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3 days to UK. I am resolving an issue with the weight of my most recent order but I have no worries with wertu sorting it out.
Wow, only 3 days?!
Looks amazing fast!
I'll go and check my address tomorrow then!
Really want to try his stuff!
Last order was 4 days and before that was 4 days. Super fast.
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3 days to UK. I am resolving an issue with the weight of my most recent order but I have no worries with wertu sorting it out.
Wow, only 3 days?!
Looks amazing fast!
I'll go and check my address tomorrow then!
Really want to try his stuff!
Last order was 4 days and before that was 4 days. Super fast.
I see, 4 days from when it was marked in transit?
Cuz I really want my order
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Can't remember. All I know for sure is my most recent order was ordered on a weekend, marked as in transit on Monday and arrived Thursday.
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Sweet, and the same address as your last one he sent from?
I guess mines will be here tomorrow, I'll keep you guys updated.
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Sadly enough, my order isn't here yet.
Think I need to pass Easter without it :-\
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Tried the meph stones from wertu yesterday.
Nice rush but the high is short, shortest that I ever had with drone.
I tried 100mg from that blue stuff and got an instant headache, shit aint mephedrone.
Somebody from Holland that can test it in a lab?
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Tried the meph stones from wertu yesterday.
Nice rush but the high is short, shortest that I ever had with drone.
I tried 100mg from that blue stuff and got an instant headache, shit aint mephedrone.
Somebody from Holland that can test it in a lab?
Any idea what the blue stuff can be?
Getting a bit worried :s
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Ok so I have just had the best weekend since 2010 on Wertu's rock mephedrone, hands down we have a clear winner here!
Limitless's mephedrone could only keep me high for a max of about 12 hours, then nothing no matter how much I took, Wertu's kept me going strong for nearly 36 hours straight and had I eaten something probably much longer.
Today I have the afterglow that I have not felt with anyone else's - you know when you feel nice and content but anything you watch can make you cry? Well that's what used to happen with pre-ban meph and so did this.
I am a meph veteran - from Hagigat, Neorganics Spirits/Doves/SC, Bubble luvs..this is the real deal guys, everyone else can basically fuck off now.
Let's hope Wertu is around for some time to come!
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I am a meph veteran - from Hagigat, Neorganics Spirits/Doves/SC, Bubble luvs..this is the real deal guys, everyone else can basically fuck off now.
That's what I like to hear :)
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So over the past two weekends I've had a proper night out with wertu's meph and have come to the conclusion that the best is the rocks. The blue powder fucked up my nose really badly. Not sure if there's some kind of cut in it or what but after three lines or so my nose was just fucked and clogged lol. The rocks however crush perfectly and the powder that is snorted after that is smooth going up (with that familiar burn) and keeps the nose clear for more lines. The pills are also choice quality, I must say. Sorry wertu, but I'm just not a fan of that blue stuff. It was a decent pick-me-up while drinking and good for bumps but just not preferable for a full intranasal mephedrone experience.
I LOVE THOSE ROCKS! :D
Mephedrone has definitely replaced cocaine for me.
Keep up the good work wertu :)
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Anyone have any approx times for the shipping of wertu's meph to Australia?
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Any of you guys know what that blue stuff meph does?
Any labtests of it?
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Any of you guys know what that blue stuff meph does?
Any labtests of it?
The blue is probably a manufacturing impurity of some sort.
There is a significant lack of lab tests for mephedrone in particular. People can't even agree on if the real pre-ban stuff was pure 4-mmc, a mix of 4-mmc and 3-mmc or something else. I think you'd been an expensive GC/MS test to find out.
If wertu really does have some original stuff from back in the day then I'd certainly pitch in to have it gc/ms lab tested so that we'll finally know.
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Well, that explains.
Anyway, I'm waiting for my order, will update.
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Anyone have any approx times for the shipping of wertu's meph to Australia?
hey wire... im from aus and am wondering the same. i ordered a sample pack on sunday 17th (!!!) march and am still waiting. ordered some K from uk same day and i arrived following wednesday. my wife recieved normal mail from uk this last thursday stamped the 19th march so this reassures me that maybe theres a backlogue of 'easter mail' which is delaying things from as far as eastern europe (i hope!)
after reading all the reviews of the rocks i hastily ordered 3g of them the tuesday of the following week (26th?). i am now only three days from auto finalization and awaiting a reply from wertu for 2days now.. i know hes busy, but this is very uncomfortable and i dont wanna ruin my buying stats, but still dont wanna FE with all this uncertainty...
is there anyone from australia that share their experiences with wertu and maybe details of time in transit etc? (my mail is coming through melbourne).. cheers.
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I'd love someone to gc/ms test what we call meph.
Limitless' and wertu's stuff are really different. I like to know what molecule I take.
It's such a mess right now : 4mmc, 4MEC, 3MMC, 4EMC, 4FMC,MDMC...etc, too many cathinones,
there's no way to distinguish them (apart from effects and taste, but from what pattern?);
no reagent test..
I'm sure many people would pay for this.
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after reading all the reviews of the rocks i hastily ordered 3g of them the tuesday of the following week (26th?). i am now only three days from auto finalization and awaiting a reply from wertu for 2days now.. i know hes busy, but this is very uncomfortable and i dont wanna ruin my buying stats, but still dont wanna FE with all this uncertainty...
When it gets close to auto-finalization the 'resolve' button will become available. Press that button and request an extension.
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Revived the free sample of the 1x mephedrone pill. Packaging was really good aswell.. The product was very nice and I had a great expersince :)
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That's not a good idea to give this kind of details...
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seems i spoke too early.. sample pack arrived y'day.. so 13 days in transit to SE aus,, not sure if this is standard because easter was last week.... hope you get yours soon wire, blue powder is nothing special, rocks are as everyone is saying -fantastic, looking forward to trying the pills when i have a clear head!
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Apparently he's ran out of the rocks and they wont be manufactured again?
Wasn't this like 70% of his actual sales. Heard blue stuff aint up to much
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Apparently he's ran out of the rocks and they wont be manufactured again?
Wasn't this like 70% of his actual sales. Heard blue stuff aint up to much
WHAT?! No more rocks??
This truly is a sad day if that's true.
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Can Wertu please post and confirm this. :(
We like the rocks.
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Products look delicious!
Subbing:)
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seems i spoke too early.. sample pack arrived (from hungary) y'day.. so 13 days in transit to SE aus,, not sure if this is standard because easter was last week.... hope you get yours soon wire, blue powder is nothing special, rocks are as everyone is saying -fantastic, looking forward to trying the pills when i have a clear head!
Thanks mate. Real happy for you it got through. Mine was in transit on the 23, so a little after yours. I'm rural too. Not stressed at all though, ever. Just send vibrations of positive intention out to the world and it ALWAYS works out.
Have an awesome time :)
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Nothing but positive experiences with this vendor.
I've had 3 successful single gram orders with this vendor internationally and when I didn't receive my sample pack in the beginning, WERTU even re-shipped that for me. So obviously, the stealth is top-notch and utilizes methods of the highest-packaging standards... and based on this, I feel pretty secure ordering from this vendor. It has become evident to me that this vendor keeps the interests of his customers in mind and aims to please them as well.
The stone Mephedrone that Wertu offers is really good for the price and produces that famous Meph-euphoria that my friends and I so desperately seek. It will have you going for an hour or two with the proper re-dose and with an energetic rush that courses through your whole body.
The blue stuff was a bit meh, but it gets the job done. However, insufflation of that stuff causes a sensation like acid corroding through your nose :o
The pills, on the other hand, were very recreational and my party enjoyed them very much.
I will be planning more orders from WERTU. Most importantly, this vendor has got his sh*t together and is on top of his game.
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seems i spoke too early.. sample pack arrived (from hungary) y'day.. so 13 days in transit to SE aus,, not sure if this is standard because easter was last week.... hope you get yours soon wire, blue powder is nothing special, rocks are as everyone is saying -fantastic, looking forward to trying the pills when i have a clear head!
Thanks mate. Real happy for you it got through. Mine was in transit on the 23, so a little after yours. I'm rural too. Not stressed at all though, ever. Just send vibrations of positive intention out to the world and it ALWAYS works out.
Have an awesome time :)
im rural as well! was 13 days for me with easter included so i hope you get yours soon.. you will love the rock and i would suggest saving the pills for when you have a clear head -i did mine after too much MDMA and it was a silly waste... waiting for more rocks now and some preban (hope its as good as the real preban) i have no problems FEing with wertu after seeing his packaging. just a shame we live so far away.... enjoy ;)
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HELLO PEOPLE!!!!
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL THE NICE REVIEWS!!! I'M REALLY GLAD YOU LIKE OUR UNIQUE PRODUCTS!!!!
SOME GOOD NEWS!!!
BIG STONE CRYSTAL / FLINSTONE TYPE MEPH IS BACK IN STOCK!!!! :) BULK ORDERS ARE ALSO WELCOME!!!
HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYBODY!!!
WERTU
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+1 Wertu you are definitely on the right path to being a big success here. Your willingness to work with your customers and your generosity as far as giving out free samples has guaranteed that. There hasn't been that many new vendors to be as giving as you. One that comes to the top of my mind is JOR and JOR's success has been monstrous.
Hey Wertu here's to you having that kind of monstrous success! My next order will be soon I am letting my tolerance get back to base line. My last dose of your meph was a 300 mg chunk from off the Flinstone rock and it rocked my world. I just swallowed it down much like taking a pill. The only reason I took such a big dose was because my tolerance was up at the time and that 300mg was the biggest dose I have ever taken at one time. The come up was really smooth. About 2 hours into it a friend of mine said he wanted what I was on. He said my eyes were dilated huge and so I looked into a mirror and sure enough he was right.
I definitely prefer parachuting it as opposed to insuflation. It seems to be a great alternative to paying the high prices for MDMA. Thanks for vending it here
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HELLO PEOPLE!!!!
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL THE NICE REVIEWS!!! I'M REALLY GLAD YOU LIKE OUR UNIQUE PRODUCTS!!!!
SOME GOOD NEWS!!!
BIG STONE CRYSTAL / FLINSTONE TYPE MEPH IS BACK IN STOCK!!!! :) BULK ORDERS ARE ALSO WELCOME!!!
HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYBODY!!!
WERTU
That is some sweet fucking news, I was worried they were gone forever!
This is gonna be an incredible summer...thanks Wertu!
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I received one of Wertus very generous samples some weeks ago. Mephedrone is a total new substance for me, so I had some respect for it.
About three hours ago I snorted about 1/5 of the crystals in 2 big lines. As I mentioned, I never tried Mephedron before but this quite small dose (I think so, but haven´t got a working scale right now) gave me quite a kick. Sadly I have to say, I didn´t like it. It felt much to unnatural, chemically, dumb, don´t know exactly how to describe.
But for all that, I have to thank Wertu for his sample and the experience I made. Stealth and package was very good, this stuff stinks like hell, but I couldn´t smell anything until I opened it completely. I`ll give the rest to some friends, perhaps someone likes it more than me and Wertu got a new customer.
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About three hours ago I snorted about 1/5 of the crystals in 2 big lines.
Did you crush it? Always crush into a powder before snorting IMHO.
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of course :)
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Any of you guys know what that blue stuff meph does?
Any labtests of it?
The blue is probably a manufacturing impurity of some sort.
There is a significant lack of lab tests for mephedrone in particular. People can't even agree on if the real pre-ban stuff was pure 4-mmc, a mix of 4-mmc and 3-mmc or something else. I think you'd been an expensive GC/MS test to find out.
If wertu really does have some original stuff from back in the day then I'd certainly pitch in to have it gc/ms lab tested so that we'll finally know.
Having a GC-MS done on Mephedrone is pointless because it doesn't differentiate between 3-MMC and 4-MMC.
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Any of you guys know what that blue stuff meph does?
Any labtests of it?
The blue is probably a manufacturing impurity of some sort.
There is a significant lack of lab tests for mephedrone in particular. People can't even agree on if the real pre-ban stuff was pure 4-mmc, a mix of 4-mmc and 3-mmc or something else. I think you'd been an expensive GC/MS test to find out.
If wertu really does have some original stuff from back in the day then I'd certainly pitch in to have it gc/ms lab tested so that we'll finally know.
Having a GC-MS done on Mephedrone is pointless because it doesn't differentiate between 3-MMC and 4-MMC.
ah, guess I had it backwards.
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Any of you guys know what that blue stuff meph does?
Any labtests of it?
The blue is probably a manufacturing impurity of some sort.
There is a significant lack of lab tests for mephedrone in particular. People can't even agree on if the real pre-ban stuff was pure 4-mmc, a mix of 4-mmc and 3-mmc or something else. I think you'd been an expensive GC/MS test to find out.
If wertu really does have some original stuff from back in the day then I'd certainly pitch in to have it gc/ms lab tested so that we'll finally know.
Having a GC-MS done on Mephedrone is pointless because it doesn't differentiate between 3-MMC and 4-MMC.
ah, guess I had it backwards.
What you need is HNMR and HPLC reports. I've put mine up over on the Meph thread and my review thread. You can cross reference them against the DEA Journal here - http://www.justice.gov/dea/pr/microgram_journals.shtml (bottom of the 2010 section). The samples in the DEA Journal are done for reference purposes and are synthesized by DEA scientists using lab grade precursors and reagents so it's what the results SHOULD say for Meph rather than what you buy from suppliers. It's actually a very good journal, information is very concise.
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My large order arrived. Much elation :)
Shipping:
15 days to Aus. Nothing to worry about, especially since it was Easter, and I live on the other side of the world.
Packaging:
Couldn't have expected any better. Wertu goes to great lengths with his stealth, will definitely give first time buyers a chuckle. Hermetically sealed as described on his page.
Will write up a detailed report in the next few days. I will quickly say though, that this is some of the cleanest meph I've ever had (and I like to think me and this substance are quite close). Will leave pre-ban, hornyness, eye-wiggle descriptions for later ;D
<3
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ive been sampling Wertus pills this week: here is a brief review...
placed my order on Tuesday and product arrived this morning (Friday UK). as usual the stealth and packaging was very professional and creative and everything was vac packed to the highest standard. all pills were intact.
i find i like these pills more and more i do them as they give you that great euphoria and rush while still being subtle enough to do them without other people knowing. they're great. that's all there is to say really...
wertu is a pleasure to do business with and i will enjoy many more orders from this wonderful and honest new vendor!
thanks again wertu! keep up the good work!
Codiedog 8)
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they give you that great euphoria and rush while still being subtle enough to do them without other people knowing.
That doesn't sounds like a big rush if you look like acting casual.
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Well, if I look to this thread and I read Limitless' post on another thread...
It seems like wertu isn't selling Meph, since it can't be in rock form he says.
Also, people using his stuff have different effects, so I'm a little worried, yet to try wertu though.
Will update when I get my package.
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those rocks are really good, closest thing to a meph high ive had since pre ban!
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Tried the Flintstone stuff and while it kicks in fast (measured out 200mg) it doesn't last as long as Lim's stuff.
Got the package and yes they are 'rock' like, they crumble very easily. The smell is very peculiar. If anyone has had any of those powdered energy drinks (gym heads will buy them), that's the smell I'm talking about. Sweet and fruity. Was a turn-off because the smell was so far away from what mephedrone is suppose to smell like.
I want it to be great, because healthy competition is good for the buyer, however all in all, I'm slightly dubious about the product. Parts of it were good and parts not so much.
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So many opinions so little consensus!
It's strange because I really have found Wertu's to be the most 'meph-like', but isn't this a ridiculous discussion? I have never known a substance to be so disputed..I guess the problem is that the cathinone family is large and there is a distinctive resemblance between them all.
Whether or not someone tells me a substance can or cannot be in rock form I can only go by my personal experience and that tells me that without a doubt both Lim's and Wertu's felt like meph, but in my opinion (and experience) Wertu's kept me going much longer and had more recognisable traits during the experience.
More horniness, endless interest in things that would not usually interest me, a sense of calm and confidence that gets stronger as the time flies by (massive time dilation), I can go strong for a good 36 hours. The next day I feel emotionally open, but happy, content, then the massive hunger comes (24 hours compulsive eating!). Those are the things I expect from Mephedrone. I want to play as long as I want to then wank or fuck as long as I want to, then eat far too much.
I guess it's horses for courses and all that - both Lim's and Wertu's seem to float different boats, both are most definitely cathinones and very enjoyable, short of synthing ourselves we can never know 100% I guess, but I trust my own ability to decide which I like/recognise more and go with it. It could be that Lim's is 'cleaner' and I like the filth of Wertu's who knows?
I'm just glad I have found a chemical that I enjoy enough not to go on about pre-ban anymore, I wish you all the same!
IMB's meph sample was also pretty good - just to add to the confusion..
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So many opinions so little consensus!
It's strange because I really have found Wertu's to be the most 'meph-like', but isn't this a ridiculous discussion? I have never known a substance to be so disputed..I guess the problem is that the cathinone family is large and there is a distinctive resemblance between them all.
Whether or not someone tells me a substance can or cannot be in rock form I can only go by my personal experience and that tells me that without a doubt both Lim's and Wertu's felt like meph, but in my opinion (and experience) Wertu's kept me going much longer and had more recognisable traits during the experience.
More horniness, endless interest in things that would not usually interest me, a sense of calm and confidence that gets stronger as the time flies by (massive time dilation), I can go strong for a good 36 hours. The next day I feel emotionally open, but happy, content, then the massive hunger comes (24 hours compulsive eating!). Those are the things I expect from Mephedrone. I want to play as long as I want to then wank or fuck as long as I want to, then eat far too much.
I guess it's horses for courses and all that - both Lim's and Wertu's seem to float different boats, both are most definitely cathinones and very enjoyable, short of synthing ourselves we can never know 100% I guess, but I trust my own ability to decide which I like/recognise more and go with it. It could be that Lim's is 'cleaner' and I like the filth of Wertu's who knows?
I'm just glad I have found a chemical that I enjoy enough not to go on about pre-ban anymore, I wish you all the same!
IMB's meph sample was also pretty good - just to add to the confusion..
This is what I like to hear!
And indeed, IMB's meph is very good also, I'll try wertu's meph probably tonight.
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It could be that Lim's is 'cleaner' and I like the filth of Wertu's who knows?
I am not a chemist. But after lots of read (specially on bluelight.ru), I think what you said is the point.
Pre-ban meph, as it was china manufactured, was really not pure (some people noticed - but no genuine source for that - preban had 10% 3MMC and other stuff in it).
After i got doubt about Limitless' meow, I think now that his meph is just pure (or purer).
Actually, who cares ? If people prefer impure meow like (i assume so) wertu's, then take it.
It's pretty the same debate about cocaine : people think the know the effects of cocaine (urban legend, movies, they did try, but confound active cuts with real coke effects) and when they get REAL cocaine, they think it's not. I mean not everybody, but lot's of people think coke may make them stay awake for several hours ; while effects last between 45 - 2 hours (maybe a bit more with alcohol).
So, the first meph into the market is taken as a reference while it is not - at least not pure.
We can say there is the "preban meph" - which is not pure ; and the lab grade meph which should be pure.
My point.
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Hi All,
anyone tried BOTH the rocks and the so called "pre-ban" stuff wertu is offering?
i have tried the rocks and placed an order for the "preban" stuff and was wondering if theres a diffrence between them as the "pre ban" is a bit more expensive and the rocks are "ok" at best
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Hi All,
anyone tried BOTH the rocks and the so called "pre-ban" stuff wertu is offering?
i have tried the rocks and placed an order for the "preban" stuff and was wondering if theres a diffrence between them as the "pre ban" is a bit more expensive and the rocks are "ok" at best
The more expensive one is really stronger, and better ; according to me and some friends.
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Hi All,
anyone tried BOTH the rocks and the so called "pre-ban" stuff wertu is offering?
i have tried the rocks and placed an order for the "preban" stuff and was wondering if theres a diffrence between them as the "pre ban" is a bit more expensive and the rocks are "ok" at best
The more expensive one is really stronger, and better ; according to me and some friends.
Thanks mate for the info!
Im very happy to hear that, i seriously hope to feel the same as you :)
would love to hear more reports from users who tried both if there are any
of course i will also report back once it gets here...
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My order arrived today safe and sound 7 days usa domestic.
THANKS wertu!
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OK ok ok .... :)
Just received my letter with the "pre-ban" stuff the more expensive one,
(5g's - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/d6e5c5713a)
im a very experienced cathinones user (all of them):
- i have tried wertu's rocks before - they were enjoyable, but not "the best" for sure.
- i have tried hes pills - did not do anything to me (in general i feel nothing when "bombing", only snorting affects me with cathinones, so i cant really tell, i will try snorting them today as wertu included some in the pack.
Communication: 10/10 - asked him to let me stay in escrow, he had no problem with that as i have ordered from him before (also with escrow) and i have great buyer stat, was quick to reply and to the point.
Shipment: 10/10 - nice and stealthy and SUPER FAST - only 3 days to my slow ass country, hes holding the record for the fastest delivery, from all the vendors i have used till now, and i have used quite a few.
Product (general): 10/10 - a bit overweight, wertu included also 3 of the pills for free - that's after including 2 for free with my last order (5g rocks), very nice and generous of him! (as obviously i did not ask him to do so)
Product (quality): 10/10 - im very happy to agree with italosvevo who posted above, this stuff is by far better than the rocks - i have a very high tolerance to cathinones, i usually start a session with like 10 nice lines to get me going - now all i did till now is 2 lines about 20 minutes ago and i have yet to re-dose, feel nice and warm euphoria, trying to take it up slowly and see how good it is...
so that's a good sign! (hell, i re-dosed just because i have written this review)
Overall very happy, recommended vendor+product!
Will update later if i will have anything else to say about this product :)
Edit:
consumed the 3 pills in an hour time + quite a lot of re-dose (snorting), as usual i cant point out any special or exciting effect. the snorting is great tough so far :)
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Some more reviews from the "pre-ban" stuff please people!
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Some more reviews from the "pre-ban" stuff please people!
As i told you earlier in PM i can also confirm that ths is truely great stuff and i have compared it to the other stuff he sells and some to other vendors, would also love to hear some more reviews in addition to the ones above from people who tried wertus diffrent types, i believe that as long as he keeps the quality of this batch of the so called "pre ban" im not going to bother and try ordering anything else :)
Im high on it as i write this LOL good stuff!
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@Overjoyed : did you have the chance to try wertus "pre-ban" (yes, ignore the pre ban part)
im an very old cathinones user from early 2000's i would love to hear your opinion on this one,as i see you have many insights regarding the cathinones Industry in your posts, and i happen to feel the exact same as you regarding limitless stuff.in this case here - don't know if its 4-mmc, i personally treat all cathinones that being sold to me as "random cathinones" even if im being told its 4mmc , 3mmc, 4mec or whaever... for me its just "hagigat", whatever inside.
BUT - and theres a bit but here, Regarding quality, i was pretty shocked in a good way from this particular one, wasn't expecting it to be SO GOOD, so as far as i care we can call it 454554MEcCrR-Cathinone-Ass i would take it anytime and didn't even bother for a second to look back and miss the "pre-ban" cause its so nice. have you tried it? would love to hear your opinion - from experience at least if not. lab test(or any other opinions for that matter from people who are experiences and tried all these types)
Love to all
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I haven't tried it and I am not going to. I had abstained from cathinones for over a year before buying Limetless' product and being severely disappointed. Every person saying great things about wertu's products are the same people who were saying Limetless' shit was the best when it is 3-MMC. I'm simply done putting unknown substances into my body at this point. 4-MMC is no longer out there.
Well no.. thats exactly my point, its NOT EVERYONE - personally i think that Lims stuff was crap and wertu's rocks are "Ok at best" and the pills are useless but the so called pre-ban, is actually great! that's why it will be very interesting if a very experienced user as claim you are would give it a try and report, i have came accross many of your posts and you seem to take the meph thing very seriously & i cant seem to find many opinions regarding this better quality batch except for other 2 in the previous page...
Regarding the health thing you are right - what i meant by saying "so as far as i care we can call it 454554MEcCrR-Cathinone-Ass i would take it anytime" - was that if i expected some effect, and i actually got this effect it doesn't really matter what cathinone is it for me, as i believe none of them are the most healthy thing you can put into your body, they all have pretty much the same shitty side effects ad made from the same shitty chemicals (or maybe im wrong?), i did not mean that i don't care what substance this is :)
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I just have to commend Wertu for being such a stand-up vendor to me. He put up with
a lot of questions, concerns and other misguided inquiries from my end. The best part
was that he always had a solution, and that I what really makes him stand out to me
the most. When I was unsatisfied with my initial order, Wertu turned around and sent
me a replacement/alternative product, based simply on the idea of this anonymous
system of trust and loyalty. That speaks in volumes. I do have to say that I was pretty
satisfied with my pre-ban replacement. I'm resting my faith in the idea that I may have
simply gotten a bad run of Meph the first time. No big deal. I like Wertu, and would
recommend his services.
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24 days of shipping time, and still hasn't arrived to USA. Vendor refuses to reship. 1/5 for now.
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It could be that Lim's is 'cleaner' and I like the filth of Wertu's who knows?
I am not a chemist. But after lots of read (specially on bluelight.ru), I think what you said is the point.
Pre-ban meph, as it was china manufactured, was really not pure (some people noticed - but no genuine source for that - preban had 10% 3MMC and other stuff in it).
After i got doubt about Limitless' meow, I think now that his meph is just pure (or purer).
Actually, who cares ? If people prefer impure meow like (i assume so) wertu's, then take it.
It's pretty the same debate about cocaine : people think the know the effects of cocaine (urban legend, movies, they did try, but confound active cuts with real coke effects) and when they get REAL cocaine, they think it's not. I mean not everybody, but lot's of people think coke may make them stay awake for several hours ; while effects last between 45 - 2 hours (maybe a bit more with alcohol).
So, the first meph into the market is taken as a reference while it is not - at least not pure.
We can say there is the "preban meph" - which is not pure ; and the lab grade meph which should be pure.
My point.
Saying "The Chinese mephedrone was impure and that was why it was 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000x better and more euphoric than our product." is a common thing that people selling 4-MEC and the like have been saying for years. It is a common excuse for why their product sucks dick. The reason why their "mephedrone" is not as good, is because it is not 4-methylmethcathinone, it is just another bullshit cathinone or cathinone mix.
Also, 4-methylmethcathinone from India was fucking awesome and I'm not talking about that "rice crystal" 4-MEC shit that people sell as 4-MMC. The labs over there are not producing it now because even though it is legal, it would sitll be HEAVILY frowned upon. India does not want to be known as the world's largest producer of what is now pretty much a schedule one substance worldwide. Think about that.
I've also had 4-methylmethcathinone that was synthesized in Hungary that was amazing as well.
My point is that 4-MMC is 4-MMC and will always produce the exact same 4-MMC results, with tolerance being taken out of the equation. I've sourced 4-methylmethcathinone from sources worldwide since 2007 and real 4-MMC has always felt exactly like 4-MMC.
I read about all the dosages that you people are taking and I can't help but feel sorry that you likely never got to experience the real thing. You talk about how great the drug is because you can appear sober on it, how amazing it is because your pupils are dilated.... that isn't shit. A line of real 4-MMC would have you blowing up harder than any amount MDMA that you have ever done in your life within two minutes. Your eyes rolled back, mouth open, babbling like baby and your arms stuck up in the air. It was like sitting in a boat in the middle of the Pacific Ocean and then a paddle came out of nowhere and slapped you in the face, knocking you into said ocean, only that ocean is really the amount of euphoria that you plunged into.
Hopefully one day those of you who think this stuff is legit will get to experience real 4-methylmethcathinone. I just hope that you don't hurt yourselves or damage your long term health by doing all of these unknown and untested chemicals which are being sold as 4-MMC.
You have already had your dick shoved up your ass about mine Overjoyed, stop talking shit and move on.
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It could be that Lim's is 'cleaner' and I like the filth of Wertu's who knows?
I am not a chemist. But after lots of read (specially on bluelight.ru), I think what you said is the point.
Pre-ban meph, as it was china manufactured, was really not pure (some people noticed - but no genuine source for that - preban had 10% 3MMC and other stuff in it).
After i got doubt about Limitless' meow, I think now that his meph is just pure (or purer).
Actually, who cares ? If people prefer impure meow like (i assume so) wertu's, then take it.
It's pretty the same debate about cocaine : people think the know the effects of cocaine (urban legend, movies, they did try, but confound active cuts with real coke effects) and when they get REAL cocaine, they think it's not. I mean not everybody, but lot's of people think coke may make them stay awake for several hours ; while effects last between 45 - 2 hours (maybe a bit more with alcohol).
So, the first meph into the market is taken as a reference while it is not - at least not pure.
We can say there is the "preban meph" - which is not pure ; and the lab grade meph which should be pure.
My point.
Saying "The Chinese mephedrone was impure and that was why it was 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000x better and more euphoric than our product." is a common thing that people selling 4-MEC and the like have been saying for years. It is a common excuse for why their product sucks dick. The reason why their "mephedrone" is not as good, is because it is not 4-methylmethcathinone, it is just another bullshit cathinone or cathinone mix.
Also, 4-methylmethcathinone from India was fucking awesome and I'm not talking about that "rice crystal" 4-MEC shit that people sell as 4-MMC. The labs over there are not producing it now because even though it is legal, it would sitll be HEAVILY frowned upon. India does not want to be known as the world's largest producer of what is now pretty much a schedule one substance worldwide. Think about that.
I've also had 4-methylmethcathinone that was synthesized in Hungary that was amazing as well.
My point is that 4-MMC is 4-MMC and will always produce the exact same 4-MMC results, with tolerance being taken out of the equation. I've sourced 4-methylmethcathinone from sources worldwide since 2007 and real 4-MMC has always felt exactly like 4-MMC.
I read about all the dosages that you people are taking and I can't help but feel sorry that you likely never got to experience the real thing. You talk about how great the drug is because you can appear sober on it, how amazing it is because your pupils are dilated.... that isn't shit. A line of real 4-MMC would have you blowing up harder than any amount MDMA that you have ever done in your life within two minutes. Your eyes rolled back, mouth open, babbling like baby and your arms stuck up in the air. It was like sitting in a boat in the middle of the Pacific Ocean and then a paddle came out of nowhere and slapped you in the face, knocking you into said ocean, only that ocean is really the amount of euphoria that you plunged into.
Hopefully one day those of you who think this stuff is legit will get to experience real 4-methylmethcathinone. I just hope that you don't hurt yourselves or damage your long term health by doing all of these unknown and untested chemicals which are being sold as 4-MMC.
You have already had your dick shoved up your ass about mine Overjoyed, stop talking shit and move on.
you'd better shut up and learn some manners limetless scammer lol
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I've only made one or 2 purchases of Mephedrone from SR. Some from Lim, Sonicdrone, Wertu and another I can't recall. Arguments aside of whether or not it's actually 4-MMC, lets hear opinions on who has the best stuff for getting you high? :)
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I've made purchases from multiple vendors on the Road for "4-MMC".
Many times it could barely pass for 4-MEC.
Also, I have had issues with the vendors themselves with selective scamming, poor communication, and lies. I'm not here to bad mouth any vendors so I won't name them but shit happens. Having said this, ordering from Wertu was a very pleasurable experience. He always gets back to you promptly, answers your questions, and seems like a very nice person in general. He sends extras, makes recommendations, and seems happy to help you out with any concerns you may have. People seem hesitant about him FE and granted, for the most part you should really avoid it so that you can protect yourself, but he's not the type to try and screw anyone out of money. That's a fact that I would bet my account on.
The shipping time from him to the Eastern U.S. was 4 days which is quite good for overseas.
As for the Meph rocks, I was very pleased with the quality. I hate the rice that you often get with other people but the rocks that Wertu sells produce a very nice high and gives you a decent Euphoric feeling. It also has that smell that only experienced RC users can recognize. Honestly, I think that he is the best RC vendor on the road, and he's the only person I will be using from now on.
A lot of people get mad if their orders are delayed or if the vendor runs out of product and leave shit reviews. You have to remember that these are people on the other end of your order, not an automated drug dispensing device. Mistakes and accidents happen. Give them a little leeway, if you treat your vendors right they will do right by you. Buyers have just as much responsibly as the vendors and need to think before rating or bad mouthing people. Sorry for the short tangent, it's just a bit aggravating to me.
I say buy with confidence with Wertu! I'm happy I switched to him. I'm very experienced with RC's and Coke and I've been using them long before finding The Road so I know you'll enjoy his product! Not a fan of the pills though ahaha. Purchase with confidence!
Total transactions: 69
Total spent: $4223.98
Refund rate: 0.36%
Auto-finalize rate: 0%
Member for: 1 year
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Hey the pre ban was pretty good as far as snorting goes. I'd rather snort the preban then any other but I have quit snorting and eating it produces an effect that I like whether you guys want to call it this or that I am ordering from Wertu because he has treated me with respect and his products make it to my place really fast every time.
I can't wait to get some more yabba dabba doo rocks. I won't waste it by snorting it either. I'll probably start off eating 300 mg. Wertu has proven to be as good as any vendor out there and better than most and for sure the best Mephedrone vendor I have ever ordered from and I have ordered from a few.
Yea I called it mephedrone because that's what Wertu calls his product and he has treated me with respect and dignity and so I shall treat him with the same. I don't have a lab or test kits except for my mind and body so where would I get off saying his mephedrone is fake or saying it's really a different cathinone
By the way I already told wertu when he first started that his thread here would eventually be over run with the so called mephedrone leading authorities lol
Wertu nevermind all this "chemist talk" brother you just keep on keeping on because your doing a great job and the your number of transactions are still climbing
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What is the difference between all these listings?
STRONGEST MEPHEDRONE EVER!! only small quant. (1g) (฿0.41)
- 1. GR ---=== PRE BAN QUALITY MEPHEDRONE ===--- (฿0.41)
1G FLINSTONE MEPHEDRONE , 98% pure, STRONG (฿0.29)
1G MEPHEDRONE , BEST QUALITY ( GUARANTEE) STRONG ! (฿0.29)
1g Mephedrone Big stones, high quality !!! (฿0.29)
1G Mephedrone shining powder, high quality (฿0.16)
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What is the difference between all these listings?
STRONGEST MEPHEDRONE EVER!! only small quant. (1g) (฿0.41)
- 1. GR ---=== PRE BAN QUALITY MEPHEDRONE ===--- (฿0.41)
1G FLINSTONE MEPHEDRONE , 98% pure, STRONG (฿0.29)
1G MEPHEDRONE , BEST QUALITY ( GUARANTEE) STRONG ! (฿0.29)
1g Mephedrone Big stones, high quality !!! (฿0.29)
1G Mephedrone shining powder, high quality (฿0.16)
All the kinds that are the same price are actually the same kind of mephedrone. I've tried both the 'shining powder' and the 'flinstones' and can definitely report that the 'flinstones' variety is of a higher potency.
I'll admit it is a little strange that wertu is offering 3 different kinds of mephedrone, but I'd assume that he's just in good contact with a new manufacturer who has several different processes that produce several different kinds of mephedrone (varying in color, potency, consistency). I really don't think there's anything suspicious going on... It's really funny how edgy and suspicious people get when mephedrone is brought up. As if mephedrone is somehow not as harmful as it's similar analogs... Anybody who's tried Wertu's mid level mephedrone will tell you that it's strong. It makes you feel great. Why do people need to read into this so much...
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just received 3g "pre ban".. tried the rocks last week and was as close to a meph high ive had since pre ban days.. im no expert and i dont guarantee eloquent reviews but i will post a comparison post trialling....
thanks wertu for the generous freebie!! as far as i can tell, there is no other meph vendor worth bothering with on SR..
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I see that you never bothered to get Limetless' 3-MMC tested.
Completely forgotten, but your post and my recent experience with Lim's product have me motivated to get it tested.
So I just delivered Lim's Mephedrone HCL Ultra Crystal to the testing centre. I will get the result next Thursday.
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I see that you never bothered to get Limetless' 3-MMC tested.
Completely forgotten, but your post and my recent experience with Lim's product have me motivated to get it tested.
So I just delivered Lim's Mephedrone HCL Ultra Crystal to the testing centre. I will get the result next Thursday.
Good.
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I see that you never bothered to get Limetless' 3-MMC tested.
Completely forgotten, but your post and my recent experience with Lim's product have me motivated to get it tested.
So I just delivered Lim's Mephedrone HCL Ultra Crystal to the testing centre. I will get the result next Thursday.
How is this test going to be administered? Have they got some to reference it with? What kind of chems do they pour into it that brings the results about?
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I don't know. I am not a laboratory technician/chemist.
It goes something like this; I give them my drugs (~100mg for powders), they send it to a lab and a week later I can call for the result.
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Here's what I think of the mephedrone market here at SR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L28UeiYbe0
(Clearnet Link)
On another note I will come back and report my next experience with wertu. I just made another buy of his flintstone
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Remember people, THIS is what Mephedrone is supposed to feel like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4RBdEhyFlg
If you hadn't told me, I wouldn't notice this guy was high :D
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My second order from Wertu arrived safely and really well packaged. I'm hardly a mephedrone expert but his stuff seems the same to me as what I bought online and from the Soho sex shops a few years ago.
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I like the Flintstones. I take a 300 mg chunk like it's a pill. An hour later I have dilated pupils over loaded sex drive.
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I see that you never bothered to get Limetless' 3-MMC tested.
Completely forgotten, but your post and my recent experience with Lim's product have me motivated to get it tested.
So I just delivered Lim's Mephedrone HCL Ultra Crystal to the testing centre. I will get the result next Thursday.
Judging by the mentioning of your "recent experience with Lim's product", I am guessing that you also noticed that it wasn't 4-methylmethcathinone.
You must, I repeat, you MUST make sure that the lab in question has 3-methylmethcathinone (3-MMC) in their database as a reference, because if they don't have 3-MMC in their database and it is 3-MMC, then they will think that it is 4-MMC. Have them test it for the full range of cathinones.
I am 100% certain that it is 3-methylmethcathinone (3-MMC). Make sure that you emphasize the possibility of it being 3-MMC when you take the substance in for testing.
They will need to do NMR testing. Not just GC/MS.
Thank you for doing this, if you do end up getting the substance tested.
For sure they already have tested 3-mmc, its holland nr1 drugland ;d
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The only other mephedrone I have had came from Goldust and DrJason.
Wertu's has been better in my opinion and his pre ban is the first pre ban I had ever done. It was great. I wish I had swallowed it instead of insufflating it but it was a lot better on the nasal cavity then any other I have done by way of snorting.
The difference between eating it and snorting it is like night and day in my opinion. I get more increase in sex drive when eating it. I get a lot more euphoria with longer legs when eating it. There is a drawback about eating it tho. It pretty much uses up your serotonin with a big dose like 300 mg. But that's cool because then I can save some for another dose at another time. The "Moorish" qualities are non existent when eating it.
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I see that you never bothered to get Limetless' 3-MMC tested.
Completely forgotten, but your post and my recent experience with Lim's product have me motivated to get it tested.
So I just delivered Lim's Mephedrone HCL Ultra Crystal to the testing centre. I will get the result next Thursday.
Judging by the mentioning of your "recent experience with Lim's product", I am guessing that you also noticed that it wasn't 4-methylmethcathinone.
You must, I repeat, you MUST make sure that the lab in question has 3-methylmethcathinone (3-MMC) in their database as a reference, because if they don't have 3-MMC in their database and it is 3-MMC, then they will think that it is 4-MMC. Have them test it for the full range of cathinones.
I am 100% certain that it is 3-methylmethcathinone (3-MMC). Make sure that you emphasize the possibility of it being 3-MMC when you take the substance in for testing.
They will need to do NMR testing. Not just GC/MS.
Thank you for doing this, if you do end up getting the substance tested.
I am not an experienced mephedrone user, but I have used it a few times and I have noticed a difference between Lim's mephedrone and the mephedrone that I used one year ago.
This was my first mephedrone experience about a year ago: I snorted about 100 mg and after a few minutes I began to feel something and I didn't know what happened to me. Heavy euphoria, like to dance, hot/in love feeling, lots of talk, music sounded brilliant, and I was in a kind of rush/tunnel which I wish it not stopped.
Recently I used Lim's mephedrone, but compared to my first experience above, it was a little bit disappointing. I certainly felt something; euphoria, enthusiasm, like to talk, openness and felt connected to people but I can't really compare it with my first time.
The mephedrone I had used a year ago felt like real mephedrone and Lim's mephedrone felt more like a light version of that.
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About the lab thing. I am not directly in contact with the lab, so I can't ask all the things you are saying to me now. I give it to a guy who sends it to a lab for me and after a week I can call him to ask what the result is. I have it delivered this afternoon and I can call for the result on 2 may. We'll see what comes out.
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I have a read a few of those experience reports and they are indeed very recognizable with my experience with Lim's product.
Is real mephedrone still produced?
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I have a read a few of those experience reports and they are indeed very recognizable with my experience with Lim's product.
Is real mephedrone still produced?
No, I do not believe that real mephedrone/4-methylmethcathinone is being produced. There is no reason for it to be produced. All of these random cathinones that are not mephedrone but are being sold as mephedrone are cheap and completely legal, unlike real mephedrone. As you can see, people are content with doing fake mephedrone, so there is no need for a lab to take the risk involved with making real mephedrone.
Mephedrone is still legal in India, but none of the labs there will produce it because of the stigma attached to it. If you ever hear about "Indian mephedrone" then it is going to be rice crystal 4-MEC or some other crap.
If 4-MMC is being produced anywhere in the world, then it is being done by a clandestine chemist who is keeping it all for himself or selling locally. There are no large labs currently producing 4-methylmethcathinone in any sizable quantities anywhere in the world.
I have private board sources where I can get ~$8,000 kilograms of pure MDMA, heroin straight from Afghanistan via a bordering country and rocket propelled grenades, yet there is no 4-methylmethcathinone for sale on any of them. It isn't out there.
BTW every time I make one I these posts I get voted down by those idiots who think Limetless' product is real. 17 of the 19 vote downs are from them. It is kind of funny. They are so stupid. They do not even care to listen to reason. You (Drugskonijntje) weren't even a heavy mephedrone user back in the day yet you were still able to tell that Limetless' product was fake.
I think you've got a good point, but I would also like to ask (I think directed more towards the vendors of this purported "mephedrone") why this so-called mephedrone isn't being sold as the drug that it is? I mean, people obviously enjoy Limetless' and wertu's products so even if it wasn't sold as mephedrone, I'm sure people would still buy it.
I also don't think it's "such a big deal" as others have said. If the drug is good, people will buy it. Doesn't matter what it's called. However, it would be nice to know the correct name of the drug I am using. Maybe there are attributes of that drug that I need to know about safety-wise, maybe there are some incredible experiences or findings that I have while using the drug that will be valuable to science or to other drug users and those findings will be attributed to the wrong drug. Anyways, I hope this comes across the right way. I love wertu's product, whether it's real mephedrone or whether it's another drug entirely, I think it's very euphoric, fun, and pleasurable. I would recommend it to others. However, I would encourage wertu and limetless to share with their customers exactly what it is that they are selling if it, in fact, is not actual mephedrone.
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hmmm, interesting. i have tried mephedrone back in the preban days, 4-MEC, 4-EEC. I also bought a good bit of Limitless' "mephedrone" crystals like 2 months ago or something and I knew it wasnt 4-MEC, or 4-EEC and if that wasnt real meph it had me fooled and I could not guess as too what it could ever be, but whatever It is, if in fact it is not true 4-MMC, It is damn good and I would love to know what it really is. I may be getting from wertu soon, has anyone ordered a bulk amount? as in 20 sum to 50 grams?
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I see that you never bothered to get Limetless' 3-MMC tested.
Completely forgotten, but your post and my recent experience with Lim's product have me motivated to get it tested.
So I just delivered Lim's Mephedrone HCL Ultra Crystal to the testing centre. I will get the result next Thursday.
Well I look forward to the results very curious ::)
and about The testcentre in the Netherlands they give you the result after a week or sometimes straight away . example When the pill/powder is on their list, you get immediate results to hear. The pill/powder is not recognized, you can let the pill be sent to the laboratory....you can bring in all banned substances like Cocaine,Ghb ect.. :) 8)
see here Dutch clearnet link...http://www.drugs-test.nl/hoe-werkt-het-testen
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I have a read a few of those experience reports and they are indeed very recognizable with my experience with Lim's product.
Is real mephedrone still produced?
No, I do not believe that real mephedrone/4-methylmethcathinone is being produced. There is no reason for it to be produced. All of these random cathinones that are not mephedrone but are being sold as mephedrone are cheap and completely legal, unlike real mephedrone. As you can see, people are content with doing fake mephedrone, so there is no need for a lab to take the risk involved with making real mephedrone.
Mephedrone is still legal in India, but none of the labs there will produce it because of the stigma attached to it. If you ever hear about "Indian mephedrone" then it is going to be rice crystal 4-MEC or some other crap.
If 4-MMC is being produced anywhere in the world, then it is being done by a clandestine chemist who is keeping it all for himself or selling locally. There are no large labs currently producing 4-methylmethcathinone in any sizable quantities anywhere in the world.
I have private board sources where I can get ~$8,000 kilograms of pure MDMA, heroin straight from Afghanistan via a bordering country and rocket propelled grenades, yet there is no 4-methylmethcathinone for sale on any of them. It isn't out there.
BTW every time I make one I these posts I get voted down by those idiots who think Limetless' product is real. 17 of the 19 vote downs are from them. It is kind of funny. They are so stupid. They do not even care to listen to reason. You (Drugskonijntje) weren't even a heavy mephedrone user back in the day yet you were still able to tell that Limetless' product was fake.
I think you've got a good point, but I would also like to ask (I think directed more towards the vendors of this purported "mephedrone") why this so-called mephedrone isn't being sold as the drug that it is? I mean, people obviously enjoy Limetless' and wertu's products so even if it wasn't sold as mephedrone, I'm sure people would still buy it.
I also don't think it's "such a big deal" as others have said. If the drug is good, people will buy it. Doesn't matter what it's called. However, it would be nice to know the correct name of the drug I am using. Maybe there are attributes of that drug that I need to know about safety-wise, maybe there are some incredible experiences or findings that I have while using the drug that will be valuable to science or to other drug users and those findings will be attributed to the wrong drug. Anyways, I hope this comes across the right way. I love wertu's product, whether it's real mephedrone or whether it's another drug entirely, I think it's very euphoric, fun, and pleasurable. I would recommend it to others. However, I would encourage wertu and limetless to share with their customers exactly what it is that they are selling if it, in fact, is not actual mephedrone.
I can give you two very good reasons as to why people would sell their product as mephedrone, when it is not mephedrone.
1) Mephedrone already has name recognition. Everyone has heard of it and read about it. They have read about how great it is. The name alone attracts business. People would be far less likely to try something like 4-ethylethcathinone (4-EEC), as they will know nothing about the drug. The mephedrone name assures them that they aren't about to snort something and die, as the drug is well known.
2) If the vendors told you what cathinones they were really selling as mephedrone, then you could and would turn to FAR cheaper clearnet sources for those legal chemicals. They would lose business as their products can be purchased from multiple different sources for lower prices. You cannot simply type "buy mephedrone" into Google and find real sources, but you can with all of these other cathinones and the sources would be cheap as well. Since real mephedrone does not exist, they can also charge a premium just by claiming that their product is the highly illegal, highly sought out and rare mephedrone.
I'm serious when I say that there are a ton of 4-MMC analogues that are being produced and sold in large quantities. Massive quantities. There's actually more of these random cathinones being produced now than when mephedrone itself was being produced, as all of the labs attempted to synthesize analogues of 4-methylmethcathinone in order to fill the void caused by it becoming illegal worldwide. All of these cathinones will get you high. If someone has never done real 4-MMC before and you chopped them out a line of 4-MEC, 4-BMC or 4-EMC and tell them that it is 4-MMC/mephedrone, then after they snort that line they are going to get high as hell and tell everyone how great the mephedrone was, even though it was not mephedrone. That's one of the reasons why shit like this persists.
First off, thanks for this educational info, Overjoyed. I felt like I learned quite a bit about this whole euphoric cathinone family, or at least about how many psychoactive analogues there are. I would very much like to know if anyone is willing to get any of wertu's products tested so that the community can know what drugs they are actually taking and can therefore follow safety precautions accordingly.
One additional advantage to getting it tested is that we will know what drug is making us feel SO damn great :D
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Ok so first off, this is really really late so I apologize.
On to the product. I had never done mephedrone before so I can't comment on pre-ban quality or whatever. But this stuff has definitely made me a fan of the drug. First tried oral route with the powder with a friend in a small amount I'm thinking .4 or .5. Had a little energy sobered us up a bit (in a good way), had a great conversation, great empathy.
Next I tried snorting with the powder and the rock and wow, definitely more intense. nice comfortable rush lots of energy very upbeat very positive. Only problem I had with it was I had dried blood in my nose the next day but I'm guessing that's just what you get for snorting or I've just got a rather sensitive nose.
The pills were also very nice, probably will end up my preferred method - long nice experience lots of euphoria feel a bit floaty but energetic at the same time.
I can't comment on quality versus other mephedrone but I can't really imagine the quality getting much better than this. Was still very active for me in low low doses and when I ramped it up the euphoria was just amazing and it's the best stimulant I've done so far. Oh, and the sample was incredibly generous, thanks very much WERTU.
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WERTU rules.
I got my sample in about a week (can't check cuz SR issues). I liked the stealth.
Yesterday I cut a 200 mg pill in half then one half in half so I could take 150 mg and my drug buddy could take 50 mg then eat an edible of hers. It took longer than I expected to hit, it was about an hour or so. When it did, I immediately felt good. I became much more talkative which was perfect because I was at a big market/festival. My appetite was a bit suppressed (I was able to enjoy a decent size snack) which is to be expected. I was definitely a little empathetic. I felt really good in general but I don't think I experienced euphoria per say. Had I taken that other 50 mg, I might have. The whole trip only lasted a few hours. It came on really quickly but was gentle with letting me down. When I got home my pupils were dilated. About an hour later I took a nap which felt good. I experienced a warm tingle for more or less the rest of the day.
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I've blown through 10g of Wertu's rocks and 2 pills.
As a 'Merican, I've I find drone to be a rare treat and something of which i have acquired quite the taste for since Dr Jason (mia, wtf, man? that stuff was the absolute tits!).
Wertus was quite satisfactory initially but my tolerance skyrocketed like a mother fucker from the Flintstone. Even several days + rest, the returns really diminished dramatically. My friend complained of the same.
And that butter taste... not sure what to think of that. 3 everyone washes and it was still very prominent.
The generous sample pills felt comparatively weak to equivalent doses of oral Flintstone.
With 10 g to myself, I put this stuff in every conceivable orifice.
I enjoyed ROAs as follows:
oral dose = butt plugging > > insuflatating.
In fact, I don't really like snorting it at all. Its more of a buggy coked up roll.
Oral and bumming it was way more relaxing. A friend agreed. Another requested a gram for snorting i presume, different strokes.
All in all, whatever this stuff is/was/might be, it was worth the price I suppose.
I noticed the price had since jumped a tad, probably more than I'm inclined to bother with at the moment unless the local demand spikes, which by now doesn't appear likely.
That said, and all in all, I found Dr. Jason's product vastly superior in its effects, and also vastly different in is physical appearance. TBH, none of us know just what the fuck Dr. Jason sent out before bailing on us following his grandfathers funeral (my extended sympathies...but please get back to vending my good man chause I'll buy that fluffy pink shit all day).
For those wondering, Dr. Jasons product was a fluffy powder, literally of snowflake-like consistency. Very difficult to rack the stuff up into a thin line due to snowy texture and seemingly impossible to further pulverize.
Really could give 2 shits if it was meph or not, but is love more of that if any (maybe werty?) could make it available.
Or if a birdy could drop me a PM.
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Or if Dr Jason can make it out of bereavement following his beloved grandfathers death and vend more , that'd be cool too. I'm positive that's what your Grandad would have wanted my friend. ;)
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Thanks for the info Overjoyed, and sorry I was pretty high and forgot it was 4-EMC, or supposedly so... lol called "Emma" i believe. It wasnt too strong. And I am glad I do not do too much of anything, I like to dabble here and there, mostly psychadelics, although I may have done too many psych rc's... haha
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Hey wertu thanks for the extra weight man. I ordered a gram and a half and 2 G's show up
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The pics don't do justice. These rocks are really a bright white color and I had went thru half G before I got access to a cam. I don't know why the pics turned out that yellowish color but it might have been that dark blue back ground that effected it. This is the best quality I have gotten so far. The rocks are hard and white
Stealth was better than before and transit time was only 6 days. Order with confidence people
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BTW every time I make one I these posts I get voted down by those idiots who think Limetless' product is real. 17 of the 19 vote downs are from them. It is kind of funny. They are so stupid. They do not even care to listen to reason. You (Drugskonijntje) weren't even a heavy mephedrone user back in the day yet you were still able to tell that Limetless' product was fake.
I could tell by looking at the picture of Limitless's one, the bright see through white shards these days are not anywhere near 4-mmc, way too stimulating and edgy and get me boiling hot instantly with a wierd edgy high for a long time, the closest one I have felt to pre-ban (I was a heavy user back then, still into when it was legal for about a year) is the slightly yellowish stinking shardy one, always weighs quite light and crushes easily, it clumps together slightly but not in a damp kind of way like I have seen some "Mephedrones", It has that almighty WHHHOFFFFF when it goes up your nose, the smell and the taste are so familiar to the pre-ban and effects wise I would say better than Pre-ban, more empathy/euphoria, not as stimulating or scatty and comedown not so bad, but still fiendish as fuck!
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I see that you never bothered to get Limetless' 3-MMC tested.
Completely forgotten, but your post and my recent experience with Lim's product have me motivated to get it tested.
So I just delivered Lim's Mephedrone HCL Ultra Crystal to the testing centre. I will get the result next Thursday.
Judging by the mentioning of your "recent experience with Lim's product", I am guessing that you also noticed that it wasn't 4-methylmethcathinone.
You must, I repeat, you MUST make sure that the lab in question has 3-methylmethcathinone (3-MMC) in their database as a reference, because if they don't have 3-MMC in their database and it is 3-MMC, then they will think that it is 4-MMC. Have them test it for the full range of cathinones.
I am 100% certain that it is 3-methylmethcathinone (3-MMC). Make sure that you emphasize the possibility of it being 3-MMC when you take the substance in for testing.
They will need to do NMR testing. Not just GC/MS.
Thank you for doing this, if you do end up getting the substance tested.
I am not an experienced mephedrone user, but I have used it a few times and I have noticed a difference between Lim's mephedrone and the mephedrone that I used one year ago.
This was my first mephedrone experience about a year ago: I snorted about 100 mg and after a few minutes I began to feel something and I didn't know what happened to me. Heavy euphoria, like to dance, hot/in love feeling, lots of talk, music sounded brilliant, and I was in a kind of rush/tunnel which I wish it not stopped.
Recently I used Lim's mephedrone, but compared to my first experience above, it was a little bit disappointing. I certainly felt something; euphoria, enthusiasm, like to talk, openness and felt connected to people but I can't really compare it with my first time.
The mephedrone I had used a year ago felt like real mephedrone and Lim's mephedrone felt more like a light version of that.
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About the lab thing. I am not directly in contact with the lab, so I can't ask all the things you are saying to me now. I give it to a guy who sends it to a lab for me and after a week I can call him to ask what the result is. I have it delivered this afternoon and I can call for the result on 2 may. We'll see what comes out.
Limetless' product feels like a light version of real 4-MMC because 3-MMC happens to be a light version of 4-MMC :D
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=185047
Read a few of those experience reports. Every person is saying that 3-MMC is like a weaker 4-MMC. The high that they describe matches the high from Limetless' product completely.
Thank you for getting this stuff tested. You are doing a very good thing here and I want you to know that I appreciate it. People on SR should not be sold mislabeled or misrepresented drugs as not only is that dangerous, but it is also scamming... which makes Limetless a scammer.
I hope that after the test results come back that the people who buy "mephedrone" over Silk Road will realize that they have no real idea as to what they are really putting into their bodies, as there is no 4-MMC being sold over SR. It is all just random cathinones, many of which possess toxic properties. People need to stop buying the fake "mephedrone" that is being sold over here before they possibly experience long term health issues.
You really are a fucking moron do you know that Overjoyed? Apparently not so I'll explain why. You bang on like you are a little 4-MMC/Chemistry god but when I handed you my HNMR and HPLC you had to ask someone to interpret it because you are too much of a spastic fuck to realise not to pontificate about something you, quite obviously, know fuck all about. And then when you had your arse handed to you when I presented you with the DEA journals that verified mine and someone who interpreted the difference as alternate solvent used during the test you haven't dared go back to that thread because I made you look like the twat you are. So what do you do? Show front by admitting you are wrong? Nope. You disappear from the threads you made yourself look like an arse in and then bitch about me on another vendors thread. Nice work fuck face, don't forget your training bra when you walk out the door.
Fucking laughable.
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And the rest of you idiots that just listen to this mug blindly Jesus Christ stop being sheep, think for yourselves and either learn how to understand/or if you do bother to look at the evidence.
Do you think I'd be stupid enough to hand over an HNMR and HPLC of something I wasn't certain was legit on the off-chance someone could interpret them? No.
If someone knew what they were talking about would they throw around accusations BASED ON OPINION RATHER THAN FACT and then ask people on the forum to confirm them? No, they wouldn't.
Would I have invited Overjoyed time and again to get my product tested independently if I wasn't certain what I have is the real deal? No because that would take the twat-cracker.
If someone was 100% sure that they were right why wouldn't they take a sample of my product and have it tested to prove they were right? They would.
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I see that you never bothered to get Limetless' 3-MMC tested.
Completely forgotten, but your post and my recent experience with Lim's product have me motivated to get it tested.
So I just delivered Lim's Mephedrone HCL Ultra Crystal to the testing centre. I will get the result next Thursday.
Judging by the mentioning of your "recent experience with Lim's product", I am guessing that you also noticed that it wasn't 4-methylmethcathinone.
You must, I repeat, you MUST make sure that the lab in question has 3-methylmethcathinone (3-MMC) in their database as a reference, because if they don't have 3-MMC in their database and it is 3-MMC, then they will think that it is 4-MMC. Have them test it for the full range of cathinones.
I am 100% certain that it is 3-methylmethcathinone (3-MMC). Make sure that you emphasize the possibility of it being 3-MMC when you take the substance in for testing.
They will need to do NMR testing. Not just GC/MS.
Thank you for doing this, if you do end up getting the substance tested.
I am not an experienced mephedrone user, but I have used it a few times and I have noticed a difference between Lim's mephedrone and the mephedrone that I used one year ago.
This was my first mephedrone experience about a year ago: I snorted about 100 mg and after a few minutes I began to feel something and I didn't know what happened to me. Heavy euphoria, like to dance, hot/in love feeling, lots of talk, music sounded brilliant, and I was in a kind of rush/tunnel which I wish it not stopped.
Recently I used Lim's mephedrone, but compared to my first experience above, it was a little bit disappointing. I certainly felt something; euphoria, enthusiasm, like to talk, openness and felt connected to people but I can't really compare it with my first time.
The mephedrone I had used a year ago felt like real mephedrone and Lim's mephedrone felt more like a light version of that.
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About the lab thing. I am not directly in contact with the lab, so I can't ask all the things you are saying to me now. I give it to a guy who sends it to a lab for me and after a week I can call him to ask what the result is. I have it delivered this afternoon and I can call for the result on 2 may. We'll see what comes out.
Limetless' product feels like a light version of real 4-MMC because 3-MMC happens to be a light version of 4-MMC :D
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=185047
Read a few of those experience reports. Every person is saying that 3-MMC is like a weaker 4-MMC. The high that they describe matches the high from Limetless' product completely.
Thank you for getting this stuff tested. You are doing a very good thing here and I want you to know that I appreciate it. People on SR should not be sold mislabeled or misrepresented drugs as not only is that dangerous, but it is also scamming... which makes Limetless a scammer.
I hope that after the test results come back that the people who buy "mephedrone" over Silk Road will realize that they have no real idea as to what they are really putting into their bodies, as there is no 4-MMC being sold over SR. It is all just random cathinones, many of which possess toxic properties. People need to stop buying the fake "mephedrone" that is being sold over here before they possibly experience long term health issues.
You really are a fucking moron do you know that Overjoyed? Apparently not so I'll explain why. You bang on like you are a little 4-MMC/Chemistry god but when I handed you my HNMR and HPLC you had to ask someone to interpret it because you are too much of a spastic fuck to realise not to pontificate about something you, quite obviously, know fuck all about. And then when you had your arse handed to you when I presented you with the DEA journals that verified mine and someone who interpreted the difference as alternate solvent used during the test you haven't dared go back to that thread because I made you look like the twat you are. So what do you do? Show front by admitting you are wrong? Nope. You disappear from the threads you made yourself look like an arse in and then bitch about me on another vendors thread. Nice work fuck face, don't forget your training bra when you walk out the door.
Fucking laughable.
Boosh. Owning it.
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I see that you never bothered to get Limetless' 3-MMC tested.
Completely forgotten, but your post and my recent experience with Lim's product have me motivated to get it tested.
So I just delivered Lim's Mephedrone HCL Ultra Crystal to the testing centre. I will get the result next Thursday.
Judging by the mentioning of your "recent experience with Lim's product", I am guessing that you also noticed that it wasn't 4-methylmethcathinone.
You must, I repeat, you MUST make sure that the lab in question has 3-methylmethcathinone (3-MMC) in their database as a reference, because if they don't have 3-MMC in their database and it is 3-MMC, then they will think that it is 4-MMC. Have them test it for the full range of cathinones.
I am 100% certain that it is 3-methylmethcathinone (3-MMC). Make sure that you emphasize the possibility of it being 3-MMC when you take the substance in for testing.
They will need to do NMR testing. Not just GC/MS.
Thank you for doing this, if you do end up getting the substance tested.
I am not an experienced mephedrone user, but I have used it a few times and I have noticed a difference between Lim's mephedrone and the mephedrone that I used one year ago.
This was my first mephedrone experience about a year ago: I snorted about 100 mg and after a few minutes I began to feel something and I didn't know what happened to me. Heavy euphoria, like to dance, hot/in love feeling, lots of talk, music sounded brilliant, and I was in a kind of rush/tunnel which I wish it not stopped.
Recently I used Lim's mephedrone, but compared to my first experience above, it was a little bit disappointing. I certainly felt something; euphoria, enthusiasm, like to talk, openness and felt connected to people but I can't really compare it with my first time.
The mephedrone I had used a year ago felt like real mephedrone and Lim's mephedrone felt more like a light version of that.
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About the lab thing. I am not directly in contact with the lab, so I can't ask all the things you are saying to me now. I give it to a guy who sends it to a lab for me and after a week I can call him to ask what the result is. I have it delivered this afternoon and I can call for the result on 2 may. We'll see what comes out.
Limetless' product feels like a light version of real 4-MMC because 3-MMC happens to be a light version of 4-MMC :D
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=185047
Read a few of those experience reports. Every person is saying that 3-MMC is like a weaker 4-MMC. The high that they describe matches the high from Limetless' product completely.
Thank you for getting this stuff tested. You are doing a very good thing here and I want you to know that I appreciate it. People on SR should not be sold mislabeled or misrepresented drugs as not only is that dangerous, but it is also scamming... which makes Limetless a scammer.
I hope that after the test results come back that the people who buy "mephedrone" over Silk Road will realize that they have no real idea as to what they are really putting into their bodies, as there is no 4-MMC being sold over SR. It is all just random cathinones, many of which possess toxic properties. People need to stop buying the fake "mephedrone" that is being sold over here before they possibly experience long term health issues.
You really are a fucking moron do you know that Overjoyed? Apparently not so I'll explain why. You bang on like you are a little 4-MMC/Chemistry god but when I handed you my HNMR and HPLC you had to ask someone to interpret it because you are too much of a spastic fuck to realise not to pontificate about something you, quite obviously, know fuck all about. And then when you had your arse handed to you when I presented you with the DEA journals that verified mine and someone who interpreted the difference as alternate solvent used during the test you haven't dared go back to that thread because I made you look like the twat you are. So what do you do? Show front by admitting you are wrong? Nope. You disappear from the threads you made yourself look like an arse in and then bitch about me on another vendors thread. Nice work fuck face, don't forget your training bra when you walk out the door.
Fucking laughable.
Boosh. Owning it.
One does one's best....
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And I'll add one more thing, just to really hammer home how stupid you are Overjoyed. You and people like you think that just because you were around in the Pre-Ban phase of Meph think that the drug had some sort of "Golden Age" at that point and it's never been as good since. Well the reason why it used to get you super-duper fucked and give everyone massive vaso-constriction and health problems is because that shit you were shoving up your nose from the Chinese was so chopped full of bi-products, poisons and 3-MMC which mixed all together may as well be the illustration of the term "cardio-toxic". You think the product was fucking superior? Its was fucking left unwashed so they could put the change it would have cost them to refine it back in their pocket and they got away with it because it got idiots like you more fucked up and made ya take more because you thought it was better. That's all there is to it I'm afraid. You think the Chinese we're the OG of Meph, maybe ya did prefer their dirty version more than my clean one but don't even begin to think that the Chinese had any sort of integrity because they didn't give a solitary fuck about churning out shit and cutting corners to save money.
Here's a list of some of the shit they used to do to save money -
Use Industrial Grade chemicals instead of Lab Grade. Difference is that Industrial is just that, meant for industry rather than pharmaceutical chemistry. And the lower the grade the dirtier the synth and the more 3-MMC is produced as a bi-product.
Leave the product unwashed. Washing it loses mass - losing mass = less profit and less profit makes Chinese man angry.
Work in conditions like the lab pictured below, nice and clean!
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/23/article-1267582-09107A0F000005DC-382_634x379.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1267582/The-Chinese-laboratories-scientists-work-new-meow-meow.html&h=379&w=634&sz=73&tbnid=cvYUyJT50ZQiUM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=151&zoom=1&usg=__iBktLW1QVJMKqRlDajxTnbE8AKE=&docid=54d66He8zOgnOM&sa=X&ei=4_WAUaLqFuqa0AXthIDIAg&ved=0CFMQ9QEwAw&dur=237
Falsify HNMR and HPLC reports so that twats like you thought you were getting pure shores when actually you were getting crap.
So yeah, just pipe the fuck down. I know you don't like to admit you have been made to look a tit but it's cool, everyone looks a tit sometimes. What turns you from a tit to a fucking cunt is continuing said tit actions. What pisses me off about this and what is most pathetic is that I've actually handed you the proof you need and someone who can read HNMRs actually told you what was what and you just disregarded it anyway. Which means, to be blunt, you have just descended into a 6 year old autistic kid does when they get told no. They shout and scream until they get what they want while creepily avoiding eye contact with rational normal adults. You're basically that kid in the film Mercury Rising who Bruce Willis gets lumbered with to look after but he obviously really just wants to throw the annoying fuck under a bus and see how much his picture card calms him down then.
Just another cunt who should have been coat-hangered in the womb....
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FYI I didn't even bother to read any of your rants, Limetless. You've got a nasty surprise coming your way over the next two days. I'll just leave it at that. :D
Lol, can't stand the truth I take it.... Go nuts.
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And let me guess, someone has tested my product lol?
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FYI I didn't even bother to read any of your rants, Limetless. You've got a nasty surprise coming your way over the next two days. I'll just leave it at that. :D
Lol, can't stand the truth I take it.... Go nuts.
Man, you don't even have a clue. Just thinking about what awaits you makes me tight in the pants. I want to say what it is so badly, yet I don't want to spoil the surprises. That's right, surprises. There are more than one. This is the last time that I will be addressing you until it is the proper time.
Have a nice day Limetless. :)
Yeah, bit like when you were gunna reveal all my sources "after you watched a movie" and never did...lol.
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Whatever Cathinone that is that Limitless or Wertu are selling (each hes own) -
i have 4g's order in status "processing" from Wertu
and 5g's order in status "processing" from Limitless
And both of them got me high nicely last time i tried, and because of these SR downtime none shipped yet, hope i can "Lab Test" them myself again as soon as possible! :)
And since we got both vendors united in one thread we might as well take the chance and ask when are the shipping going out? ;D
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Whatever Cathinone that is that Limitless or Wertu are selling (each hes own) -
i have 4g's order in status "processing" from Wertu
and 5g's order in status "processing" from Limitless
And both of them got me high nicely last time i tried, and because of these SR downtime none shipped yet, hope i can "Lab Test" them myself again as soon as possible! :)
so when are the shipping going out?
Processing everything this evening for shipping tomorrow. :)
Anyway it's very bad form to be dancing on another vendors thread. My apologies Wertu, all the best in your endeavors.
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Whatever Cathinone that is that Limitless or Wertu are selling (each hes own) -
i have 4g's order in status "processing" from Wertu
and 5g's order in status "processing" from Limitless
And both of them got me high nicely last time i tried, and because of these SR downtime none shipped yet, hope i can "Lab Test" them myself again as soon as possible! :)
so when are the shipping going out?
Processing everything this evening for shipping tomorrow. :)
Anyway it's very bad form to be dancing on another vendors thread. My apologies Wertu, all the best in your endeavors.
Now thats some good news,
Love the stuff from both of you, regardless of the chemistry discussion - it does what i expect it to do! ;D
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One last thing, Limetless. It's not cool to try to bribe or threaten the person who had your product tested in order to coerce them into not sharing the results. It is time for you to pay the piper.
What the fuck you talking about you prick? You need to show some brief if you are going to say shit like that you fool. I don't play those games and I am tired of playing yours.
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Crack on. :)
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how about we just call this little skirmish over?
limetless wins. there is no 4-mmc on the site that you linked us to, and there is no backing evidence that the chemical supplier you linked is even legit. at this point, i don't care if it's 4-mmc, 3-mmc or a combination of cathinones. people are enjoying the products from limetless and wertu and that's what matters. like i've said before, if someone wants to independently test the "mephedrones" of SR, go for it. it'd be nice to know exactly what drugs each one is. chances are they will both be 4-mmc. and if they aren't, i'd still be down to do them.
this dispute is kind of a fucking joke. Overjoyed, please just have the products lab tested and have the lab post the results. then feel free to cite your research. you have no proof otherwise, and these two vendors are doing a fine job providing drugs that people enjoy, including me. so chill out and maybe enlighten us with some facts instead of baseless accusations. thanks.
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Overjoyed, would you mind eating a dick for me? Take a walk while you munch. Savor it.
I'm sick of reading hijack bullshit on this thread.
I'm getting PMs about this stuff because you've derailed this thread so much. Not that I mind.
This stuff's great fun. Especially bombed and bummed I tell em'.
I can assure you with almost absolute certainty after well over a year of buying here, many products aren't exactly what they're claimed to be, at least not entirely. Prime example? Meth. Oh boy on that one. But many others seem to enjoy some of these clever cocktails. Others are the real deal. It's no secret.
I'll order from Wertu again, that's fact.
If you're the authority on this Overjoyed, why don't you take a stab at what exactly it was Dr. Jason sent out. I described it in my last post in this thread and in his review thread.
Perhaps it was his Grandad's formulary, a cathinone secret that he took to the grave with him.
Maybe comment on that when your done munching.
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For a wee while there I kept coming back to these threads to see what overjoyed (ironic name that) was going to come up with next.
Attaining more info about substances is something we should encourage but fuck me this is totally overdone (see what I did there?).
Mate you've clearly got an axe to grind, but that axe is sounding like a broken record, so until we have definitive facts can't you give it a rest? You must have something more valuable to do than be one half of a fight that is going nowhere.
Lims stuff compared to what I had in London 09/10 when it would arrive on a scooter at my door is IDENTICAL if not stronger and less bingey and without the smell.
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Thanks Ktown99 :)
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1. Why would I listen to you when you come across so hostile?
2. Why would I try something new when I don't doubt what I'm currently buying?
3. Why would I waste my bc's on a product that I don't know works as well as the current one?
You're anger stops many people from listening to you. If you cared about what people are buying and putting in their bodies then you may wish to take my advice and chill out a bit. If you do, people will be more inclined to listen to what you are trying to say.
However if you wish to continue trying to be the biggest cunt on SR then by all means go for it.
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Well, let's see.
"Dr. Jason sent us out a bunch of pink crystals that made us feel really good, better than all the rest of this fake Mephedrone."
That doesn't really leave me a lot to work with, fuckstick.
Apparently it gave you quite a bit to work with given the dissertation you just provided.
Thank you, by the way. That was way informative.
Now ask yourself this, bitch, how do I know so much about 4-MMC?
How is it that I can just magically pull random sources out of my ass like this? You asked about pink Mephedrone and I immediately supplied you with the only source that I have ever heard of with pink Mephedrone. The answer is because I'm more jacked in to the scene than you are or ever will be. I'm even more jacked into the scene than this Limetless faggot.
Ok, I asked myself how you know so much about 4-MMC. My first guess was that you are a wizard, or maybe a sorcerer. Probably sorcerer. Either way Pablo, you clearly "shower in that shit bro!"...we get it!
You're so deep in the game that you can even source it. Now that's real.
Did you ever roll with McCaffee and his RC crew? I bet you did. You baller you.
For the record, Dr. Jason's package looked like it was mailed by a teenager with severe muscular distrophy and PENCIL. I'd order again in a heartbeat (it was THAT amazing) but I've never seen lousier or more hazordous packaging in my life. I could go on, and I'm not sure you grasp what I'm saying here, but clearly this teenager was heavily connected and deep in the game much like yourself.
I wouldn't even have taken this hostile tone with you, but your druggie ass cast the first stone.
So much irony in this statement, and pomposity in your tone, no? You don't know me or take into consideration that I can probably run circles around your ass when it comes to knowledge of anything EXCEPT....4-MMC (!!!), which apparently doesn't exist anymore according to you. So what's your issue man? For real.
You wouldn't catch me shitting all over someones thread for offering the weaker isomer of say, 4-MAR, when folks were clearly enjoying it.
It sounds like rc-1000 really loosened your butt, maybe injured it a bit when he walked out on you. One can't help but pick up on the buttpain leaking out of your history lesson. Still very interesting and informative.
Maybe email him, rekindle the relationship, see what you can work out.
In the meantime, please obey my phalophagic request stated in previous post.
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OH MY GAWDDDDDD
Overjoyed, stop being such a prick, at the end of the day lets respect the decision of the person who is buying the product.
As for Lim and Wertu, I LOVE YOU BOTH... Rock on, ignore the fact-less flamer.
Much Love
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Cool, crack on.
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First I read this:
FYI I didn't even bother to read any of your rants, Limetless. You've got a nasty surprise coming your way over the next two days. I'll just leave it at that. :D
Then this:
Why don't you actually read a thread before posting your opinion?
Overjoyed, just stop.
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Hold on. What do you think limitless and others are selling? I can't remember for all your ranting.
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First I read this:
FYI I didn't even bother to read any of your rants, Limetless. You've got a nasty surprise coming your way over the next two days. I'll just leave it at that. :D
Then this:
Why don't you actually read a thread before posting your opinion?
Overjoyed, just stop.
I do not read Limetless' rants because they are nothing but a smokescreen. I already have Limetless on the hook. I do not need to read several paragraphs of his ranting. Nothing that he says is really of any importance to me, as I know that once those test results come back that all of my ranting and bitching on this forum will be shown to have been justified.
I do, however, read all the posts made by other people. My hostile nature generally exposes itself once Limetless' ignorant supporters come out of the woodwork and attack *me* first. Don't get it twisted though, I am an absolute asshole. However, I am only an asshole to you if I feel as though you have taken a shot at me first. Yes, it is rather childish to put forth and display such an attitude, however I honestly don't care. Once again, once the lab results are in then you will see why I have been so up-in-arms.
Now then. Notice how I did not cop an attitude with you? It is because I did not find your post insulting. I am perfectly willing to have a civil dialogue with any other individual who also shows the willingness to show a modicum of respect and/or politeness in return. However, as soon as some troglodyte that happens to type like he's smashing his face on the keyboard just randomly attacks me with a rather poorly composed post, then the gloves come off.
This just shows how ignorant and forgetful you are of your own bullshit. You didn't come at me with any good-grace at all when you started this so you never got any in return.
And my posts aren't a smoke screen lol, I just quite like picking you apart and making you look an idiot. Keeps me entertained in the warm Spring evenings. Notice that you don't bother to even tell the truth here, I've never said you shouldn't go and get it tested. In fact it's the opposite I have invited you to on many occasions but you seem to think I'm trying to block you like I have something to conceal. On the hook my arse.
And Ktown he thinks I'm selling 3-MMC.
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First I read this:
FYI I didn't even bother to read any of your rants, Limetless. You've got a nasty surprise coming your way over the next two days. I'll just leave it at that. :D
Then this:
Why don't you actually read a thread before posting your opinion?
Overjoyed, just stop.
I do not read Limetless' rants because they are nothing but a smokescreen. I already have Limetless on the hook. I do not need to read several paragraphs of his ranting. Nothing that he says is really of any importance to me, as I know that once those test results come back that all of my ranting and bitching on this forum will be shown to have been justified.
I do, however, read all the posts made by other people. My hostile nature generally exposes itself once Limetless' ignorant supporters come out of the woodwork and attack *me* first. Don't get it twisted though, I am an absolute asshole. However, I am only an asshole to you if I feel as though you have taken a shot at me first. Yes, it is rather childish to put forth and display such an attitude, however I honestly don't care. Once again, once the lab results are in then you will see why I have been so up-in-arms.
Now then. Notice how I did not cop an attitude with you? It is because I did not find your post insulting. I am perfectly willing to have a civil dialogue with any other individual who also shows the willingness to show a modicum of respect and/or politeness in return. However, as soon as some troglodyte that happens to type like he's smashing his face on the keyboard just randomly attacks me with a rather poorly composed post, then the gloves come off.
Thanks for not being a dick ;D
Mind if I ask why the test results were delayed? Or is that something you can't share? I don't really know how that kind of stuff works but I was really interested to see what the lab had to say. At least you are being honest when you say the results are delayed; would have been really easy to just say it's not 4-MMC. I have been considering placing a large order from wertu for quite some time now and this will make or break the deal for me. I ordered a sample from him awhile back and thought it was the real deal. I only had a few bumbs since I gave the rest to a friend but we both thought it smelled and felt like the stuff we used to get back around 2009.
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How is me saying that I'm happy that your testing my product misdirection and general fuckery? Ridiculous. I'm quite happy that Drugs is doing it just so you can finally shut your noise.
And you were the one that said GC-MS wouldn't be good enough on another thread. I was merely making a recommendation. It's crap like this that makes you look like you have an agenda kid because you wouldn't be ranting and trying to twist my words. It'd be a case of getting it done and sorted without the added bullshit lol.
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How is me saying that I'm happy that your testing my product misdirection and general fuckery? Ridiculous. I'm quite happy that Drugs is doing it just so you can finally shut your noise.
And you were the one that said GC-MS wouldn't be good enough on another thread. I was merely making a recommendation. It's crap like this that makes you look like you have an agenda kid because you wouldn't be ranting and trying to twist my words. It'd be a case of getting it done and sorted without the added bullshit lol.
You remind me of another lame, scamming ass Brit. Guy who used to go by the handle IntenseReaction. That's one of the reasons why I don't like you. However, the main reason why I don't like you is because you're a bitch who is selling 3-MMC as 4-MMC and I see right through your entire internet "Gangster No 1" facade. Also that movie would have been a lot better if not for all the homosexual undertones that ran throughout it. It had a lot of gayness in it. Just like you.
I don't really much care if you like me lol, anyway yeah okk cool, we'll see. :)
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So I've read through most of this shitty fucking thread and all it seems we need are the results.
If they come back as mephedrone then hurray!
If they come back as 3-mmc hurray!
Why is it a win-win? Well it might mean overjoyed can become overdosed and shut the fuck up while Lim or whoever renames what they're selling.
Either way the shit is tasty.
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Whatever Cathinone that is that Limitless or Wertu are selling (each hes own) -
i have 4g's order in status "processing" from Wertu
and 5g's order in status "processing" from Limitless
And both of them got me high nicely last time i tried, and because of these SR downtime none shipped yet, hope i can "Lab Test" them myself again as soon as possible! :)
so when are the shipping going out?
Processing everything this evening for shipping tomorrow. :)
Anyway it's very bad form to be dancing on another vendors thread. My apologies Wertu, all the best in your endeavors.
2 Days have passed and still not shipped, any new estimated time for shipping of last weeks orders?
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Whatever Cathinone that is that Limitless or Wertu are selling (each hes own) -
i have 4g's order in status "processing" from Wertu
and 5g's order in status "processing" from Limitless
And both of them got me high nicely last time i tried, and because of these SR downtime none shipped yet, hope i can "Lab Test" them myself again as soon as possible! :)
so when are the shipping going out?
Processing everything this evening for shipping tomorrow. :)
Anyway it's very bad form to be dancing on another vendors thread. My apologies Wertu, all the best in your endeavors.
2 Days have passed and still not shipped, any new estimated time for shipping of last weeks orders?
Dude you should message him on here rather than in another vendors thread don't ya think?
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Whatever Cathinone that is that Limitless or Wertu are selling (each hes own) -
i have 4g's order in status "processing" from Wertu
and 5g's order in status "processing" from Limitless
And both of them got me high nicely last time i tried, and because of these SR downtime none shipped yet, hope i can "Lab Test" them myself again as soon as possible! :)
so when are the shipping going out?
Processing everything this evening for shipping tomorrow. :)
Anyway it's very bad form to be dancing on another vendors thread. My apologies Wertu, all the best in your endeavors.
2 Days have passed and still not shipped, any new estimated time for shipping of last weeks orders?
Dude you should message him on here rather than in another vendors thread don't ya think?
Your right actually, this thread has been so derailed by this ongoing Overjoyed \ Limitless discussion that i have completely forgotten its actually Wertu's review thread
so limitless, your reply in private or in your thread or anywhere else (or better - just shipping without reply) will be appreciated :)
+ Just to stay on topic - waiting for my third 5g of the more expensive stuff from Wertu, guess it will be awesome as always, will update later :)
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Mephedrone is my absolute favourite drug. I ahve just purchased Wertu's more expensive listing - STRONGEST MEPHEDRONE EVER!! only small quant. (3g). What is the difference between this and his "Pre-Ban" mephedrone, or are they the same?
@Microdotter: can you compare wertu's more expensive mephedrone with chinese meph from '08-'10? Or with other vendors' meph - goldust's (wasnt impressed with his) specifically?
Thanks.
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Mephedrone is my absolute favourite drug. I ahve just purchased Wertu's more expensive listing - STRONGEST MEPHEDRONE EVER!! only small quant. (3g). What is the difference between this and his "Pre-Ban" mephedrone, or are they the same?
@Microdotter: can you compare wertu's more expensive mephedrone with chinese meph from '08-'10? Or with other vendors' meph - goldust's (wasnt impressed) specifically?
Thanks.
I have tried both kinds from wertu - no doubt that the one you (and me) have ordered is much better than the other one - i think it the same as hes so called "pre ban" under different names
I have tried long time ago the one from goldust (from Limitless which is the same goldust is Limitless reseller) i remember it was Ok, i dont recall it was anything special either good or bad - but it did the job.
i have now ordered again from Limitless after trying various vendors, just to check hes recent batch, awaiting shipment.
Compare to past? i have been trying cathinones from 2002 from simple methcathinone to who-knows-what-cathinone, some where better, some less, i cant really tell which are the one you are refereeing to as the Chinese ones from 2008-10 (i guess you mean the ones that been sold legaly in US/UK, but im not from there) - but considering the "average" from all of them i tried - i find wertus stuff very respectable and satisfying, but im too fucked up to be a real judge, so don't take my word on anything :)
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Thank you very much for taking the time to reply! Sounds like I made a good choice, I agree with you on goldusts meph - nothing special.
I havent tried methcathinone(its unavailable where i live) but have been a loyal 4-mmc fan ever since it appeared on the scene and after it was made illegal had absolutely no luck finding meph that gave the same sensations/euphoria/speediness/ego/sex boost lol.
Looks like you know your cathinones and I made the right choice! Thanks again.
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Haven't tried Lim's but will someday. Let's get this train back on it's goddamn track. Hopefully Overjoyed fucks off this time.
If I were in the US and wertu order cathinones, I'd order then from Wertu without hesitation.
They'd probably arrive within a week. I thought 10 g worth of pebbles would be massive but it's not what I imagined and the stealth is superb. Don't be scared. I'm serious.
This vendor does a pretty damn good job.
Stealth and fast as fuck. Produces bliss via nose, stomach or butt. And that's real.
Just tossing a bit of reassurance out there since PMs indicate it. I was in the same boat until I got my pack.
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Thank you very much for taking the time to reply! Sounds like I made a good choice, I agree with you on goldusts meph - nothing special.
I havent tried methcathinone(its unavailable where i live) but have been a loyal 4-mmc fan ever since it appeared on the scene and after it was made illegal had absolutely no luck finding meph that gave the same sensations/euphoria/speediness/ego/sex boost lol.
Looks like you know your cathinones and I made the right choice! Thanks again.
No problem mate - and don't forget the two other factors that are part of the game with ANY drug:
1) the first time magic / Honeymoon period
2) Tolerance (even the "long term tolerance")
so no reason to chase the effects like they used to be few years ago just to ask our-self if the current one is good enough :)
as i seriously doubt it that the stuff who came from place X at time Y was consistently better or chemically superior to the cathinones you could find any other time or place (i consider all cathinones random as i can never know which one it really is / was without a mobile testing lab )
but again, just my opinion, im not saying im right.
If I were in the US and wertu order cathinones, I'd order then from Wertu without hesitation.
They'd probably arrive within a week. I thought 10 g worth of pebbles would be massive but it's not what I imagined and the stealth is superb. Don't be scared. I'm serious.
This vendor does a pretty damn good job.
Stealth and fast as fuck. Produces bliss via nose, stomach or butt. And that's real.
im with you on that - i had the fastest shipment i EVER HAD on SR from wertus - 3 days each time of my 3 orders from him and i live in a different continent! also stealth was better than most of the other vendors i tried (meph or other stuff). would and will order again without hesitation.
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No problem mate - and don't forget the two other factors that are part of the game with ANY drug:
1) the first time magic / Honeymoon period
2) Tolerance (even the "long term tolerance")
so no reason to chase the effects like they used to be few years ago just to ask our-self if the current one is good enough :)
as i seriously doubt it that the stuff who came from place X at time Y was consistently better or chemically superior to the cathinones you could find any other time or place (i consider all cathinones random as i can never know which one it really is / was without a mobile testing lab )
but again, just my opinion, im not saying im right.
I know exactly what you mean. I am trying not to chase that feeling but its too good! A few months ago I also got a chance to try some original chinese mephedrone from 2009 that someone had (it turned slightly yellowish- brown though) and it was exactly like I remembered it, its a pity that that person only had 0.6g ,hopefully wertu's will be similar!
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First I read this:
FYI I didn't even bother to read any of your rants, Limetless. You've got a nasty surprise coming your way over the next two days. I'll just leave it at that. :D
Then this:
Why don't you actually read a thread before posting your opinion?
Overjoyed, just stop.
I do not read Limetless' rants because they are nothing but a smokescreen. I already have Limetless on the hook. I do not need to read several paragraphs of his ranting. Nothing that he says is really of any importance to me, as I know that once those test results come back that all of my ranting and bitching on this forum will be shown to have been justified.
I do, however, read all the posts made by other people. My hostile nature generally exposes itself once Limetless' ignorant supporters come out of the woodwork and attack *me* first. Don't get it twisted though, I am an absolute asshole. However, I am only an asshole to you if I feel as though you have taken a shot at me first. Yes, it is rather childish to put forth and display such an attitude, however I honestly don't care. Once again, once the lab results are in then you will see why I have been so up-in-arms.
Now then. Notice how I did not cop an attitude with you? It is because I did not find your post insulting. I am perfectly willing to have a civil dialogue with any other individual who also shows the willingness to show a modicum of respect and/or politeness in return. However, as soon as some troglodyte that happens to type like he's smashing his face on the keyboard just randomly attacks me with a rather poorly composed post, then the gloves come off.
This just shows how ignorant and forgetful you are of your own bullshit. You didn't come at me with any good-grace at all when you started this so you never got any in return.
And my posts aren't a smoke screen lol, I just quite like picking you apart and making you look an idiot. Keeps me entertained in the warm Spring evenings. Notice that you don't bother to even tell the truth here, I've never said you shouldn't go and get it tested. In fact it's the opposite I have invited you to on many occasions but you seem to think I'm trying to block you like I have something to conceal. On the hook my arse.
And Ktown he thinks I'm selling 3-MMC.
See Limetless, this is an example of why I do not find your posts worth responding to. This is a prime example of how you muddy the waters and confuse people, which is the main intent of many of your posts regarding this matter:
"Notice that you don't bother to even tell the truth here, I've never said you shouldn't go and get it tested. In fact it's the opposite I have invited you to on many occasions but you seem to think I'm trying to block you like I have something to conceal."
I'm not "bothering to tell the truth here"? What am I lying about? I never said that you didn't tell me not to have the substance tested. As a matter of fact, you DID tell me to have the substance tested and I had a sample of your product ready to ship to a lab before they responded and told me that they cannot discern the difference between 3-MMC and 4-MMC using GC/MS, which was their only means of testing. Then Drugs stepped up to the plate and sent your product to a Dutch lab to get it examined. I still have 1.3g of your product in an airtight container which I am willing to send to yet another lab for NMR analysis, should I ever find one willing to do it without me having to pay out the ass. This is the direct quote from a multiple Ph.D holder who has done a lot of testing for the research chemical community in the past:
"I would go for NMR. GC or GC/MS will be ineffective.
Even this may be insufficient though, it could take a high-res NMR machine
or reacting it with something then testing, both of which are out of reach
of most labs."
medicateme - Do you see what Limetless does when he makes posts such as these? He does nothing but add confusion into the mix and uses such ruses to cast me in a poor light. I am guessing that you are a smart enough individual to see what he just did with that post and if you felt like bothering to read his older posts, you would see that he continues to do the same thing. Many less intelligent users will just glance at his post and read "Oh, Limetless just said he proved he was lying, so Limetless is obviously telling the truth." when in all actuality Limetless did no such thing. It is all misdirections, smokescreens and general fuckery.
Must of missed the part about testing Lim's product. I just assumed it was wertu's since, ya know, this is a thread about his stuff 8).
I honestly don't know who to believe here; I would just like to see some test results. Like I said before, I ordered a sample of wertu's stuff about a month ago and from what I could tell (smell, consistency, high) it was just like the old days. That also could just be because I haven't had any for so long and forgot what it was really like. IF Lim's is anything like that, I would have a hard time believing it was mephedrone until I got it tested.
Do you have any specific examples of other cathinones that smell and look like mephedrone? I have no clue what other cathinones are out there much less what they look like, smell like, etc. The only other one that I know I have had is 4-MEC. It looks kind of similar, the smell was way different and I didn't really get that much of a high off it so I'm guessing that is not what these guys are selling---also not trying to say it's not 4-MMC.
Anywho, while I wait for these test results I'm gonna chill on some dabs. Can't wait for the results!
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I would like to add one thing more thing. This is something that both Limetless and myself agree upon. wertu's "yabba dabba doo flintstone rocks" cannot possibly be 4-MMC unless the substance was re-rocked with something after synthesis. 4-MMC does NOT come out of the lab looking like those large rocks. The nature of its crystalline structure does not allow for such.
Clearly it is re-rocked. Just as MDMA is re-rocked as moonrocks.
I triple acetone washed 2 grams of the flintstone (pulverized, off white). It came back as a whiter crystalline powder after the first wash. I regret not recording the weight loss, but the acetone used at the time was not the freshest nor driest. I do recall that it was rather negligable despite this. Any gains in purity seemed to diminish with further washes (as expected).
The washed product smelled no different than the fresh. No detectable difference in effects were noted (me and another). The washed product was a bit easier on the nose/drip more tolerable. Just a tad.
edit: I am curious if either of you know what is used to re-rock compounds. I see this has become a trend with methylone as well. Faggot Ron Paul's guide/listing said moonrocking is why MDMA-HCl purity is always listed as 85%, which makes perfect sense and explains why you only see this % mentioned with rocked items. People think it's about mol. wt. %'s, but it's really just a convenient way to confuse the masses and cut a product X %...as I understand it.
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Ok, i have done this many times already but for this great vendor i will always add another review!
Just got today ANOTHER order from Wertu, this time it was : "4. GR ---=== PRE BAN QUALITY MEPHEDRONE ===---"
shipping: took a bit of processing time dues to the SR downtime so what can we do, but once its out it took 5 days to reach here, a bit longer than previous orders since it was shipped on weekend, but still faster than 99% :)
Packaging: great as always, what i like most about it is that i get a lot of empty baggies to use after i open hes packs, clever stealth...
Products: nice big yellowish crystals that become nice white powder when crushed. by comparing to my previous orders ican say this is same product as hes " STRONGEST MEPHEDRONE EVER!! only small quant. (5g)" , but not the same as the rocks/flinstones (this one is BY FAR MUCH BETTER than the rocks) wertu also included a free pill as usual (last time he included 3 pills and before that he included 2 pills for free)
Quality: AWESOME cathinone! just did 2 lines and im high as fuck and even got some jaw clenching which i never have! - i also have pretty decent tolerance. at previous orders i have swallowed the pills and it did not get much of effect - this time i have crushed the pill, it fell apart easily into white soft powder, and snorted 3 small lines and im so high i find it hard to even write here - something i cannot remember when was the last time it happen!
summary: AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME ! wertu is the man as always, nothing new, but i had to pay my respect with another review :)
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Hello everybody!
We would like to share with you our current situation, so you will know why does it take longer nowadays processing your orders.
Temporary we are facing with some problems. Our business has grown so rapidly that we pretty much can not keep up with the amount of orders. Which is not bad at all, actually it is great :) and we want to thank you for your orders and trust towards to us!
The bad part of this, that we have to employ and get involved a new person in our business which is really hard to find a trusted, reliable person. :S
We are moving our office and warehouses to different location so this also take a lot of time from our days.
We hope all these issues will be solved soon, the new team will set up and we can be as fast with processing your orders as we used to be!
Have a great day!
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Hey guys is there any reports from anybody who has tried injection as the ROA?
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anyone can report on the 200 mg pills? i have never tried meph but i figured id start small with 2 pills how should i does and ROA?
thanks
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anyone can report on the 200 mg pills? i have never tried meph but i figured id start small with 2 pills how should i does and ROA?
thanks
I've enjoyed them DigiDong. Felt a bit "cleaner" overall than the flintstone to me (smoother).
I'd suggest starting with one, orally. Any more than that would have been overload for me.
I've found oral mephedrone to work far better than snorting. Plugging is good too.
Mike, dude... I wouldn't do that bud. Just my 2cents. Especially with the pills or rocked stuff!
Let me know what you think of UK Majesty's finest (K Queen). I seen you over on that thread.
Pink sounds promising :)
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thanks le bot. i figured it was in the depths of these 17 pages but ive done so much reading on the forums lately my eyes hurt..
i read 36 pages of ron pauls reviews of his chemistry guide ( how to make mdma , lsd) anyways i will take your advice. thanks again
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anyone can report on the 200 mg pills? i have never tried meph but i figured id start small with 2 pills how should i does and ROA?
thanks
I've enjoyed them DigiDong. Felt a bit "cleaner" overall than the flintstone to me (smoother).
I'd suggest starting with one, orally. Any more than that would have been overload for me.
I've found oral mephedrone to work far better than snorting. Plugging is good too.
Mike, dude... I wouldn't do that bud. Just my 2cents. Especially with the pills or rocked stuff!
Let me know what you think of UK Majesty's finest (K Queen). I seen you over on that thread.
Pink sounds promising :)
Well the good news is that my testers came back and gave me a positive review. They said it felt really clean and it gave them a good blast of energy for about 2 hours after they injected 30 mg off a flintstone.
But no le botbahn my query was for informational purposes only. The 2 that done it I believe got down on it ya know what I mean? They like it as an aphrodisiac. Na man I don't do any banging bro
Yea I can't wait to try the pink drone man and how are the reviews about the Ket?
I agree with you about wertu's drone pills being a bit stronger than the flintstone's
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Cheers mike , just read your post . 2 hours with the aphrodisiac rush points to pretty good gear .
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Just wanted to stop in and say that wertu's meph is great at low doses for reading. I mean, I love to read sober, but a small crystal dosed orally just enhances the experience so much more...I highly recommend it to anyone interested in getting into reading more or those that love to read and want to rekindle their love of the activity.
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That's an interesting angle Zip! Never tried using it for that purpose but I think I'll give that a go soon.
Glad to hear that Mike. I mean, I'm not trying to be that guy, but I cringe at the thought of shooting things that aren't intended to be shot...like rocked products (full of whatever the hell binds it). I'm glad they lived to tell about it at least. I figured there was a good chance it would burn the hell out of their veins, although it's long-term organ damage and emboli that really make me cringe. To each their own though.
Not sure about K Queens ketamine, I've only had Project 4's but ketamine has become my new favorite next to "real" and "good but questionable" 4-MMC/mephedrone (Overjoyed raised valid points earlier in this thread, I gotta hand it to them). Absolutely LOVE ketamine though! Really helped with the post-meth blues also...it really is a life saver there in terms of stabilizing mood swings and minimizing/eliminating depression. That and it's fun as hell! Real glad I finally gave it a go.
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Cheers mike , just read your post . 2 hours with the aphrodisiac rush points to pretty good gear .
Plus 1 man yea I was glad to finally hear back from them. I had already talked to them since but they hadn't tried it yet but they finally gave it a go
That's an interesting angle Zip! Never tried using it for that purpose but I think I'll give that a go soon.
Glad to hear that Mike. I mean, I'm not trying to be that guy, but I cringe at the thought of shooting things that aren't intended to be shot...like rocked products (full of whatever the hell binds it). I'm glad they lived to tell about it at least. I figured there was a good chance it would burn the hell out of their veins, although it's long-term organ damage and emboli that really make me cringe. To each their own though.
Not sure about K Queens ketamine, I've only had Project 4's but ketamine has become my new favorite next to "real" and "good but questionable" 4-MMC/mephedrone (Overjoyed raised valid points earlier in this thread, I gotta hand it to them). Absolutely LOVE ketamine though! Really helped with the post-meth blues also...it really is a life saver there in terms of stabilizing mood swings and minimizing/eliminating depression. That and it's fun as hell! Real glad I finally gave it a go.
Yea man I agree I am glad nothing bad happened. This meph gives me a lot of energy when ate or insufflated almost like ice except we all know that mephedrone isn't the "Animal" as ice is. I'm glad to hear your take on Ket. Sounds like something that could be used around here with so many people depressed and jonesing
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okie doke so this is da sbmafias VERY late review of the free meph pill sample (sry wertu if u want PM me on SR n i will pay u 4 the pill next time I put coins on my account)..Anywayz it came real quick 2 the west coast considering country of origin (5-6 days). Stealth is tied w one other vendor w the best I've ever seen (altho i've only ordered 3-4 things internationally)..anywhoo i crush the pill thoroughly in a bill n dump it in a plastic spoon, figuring no heat will b necessary. most of it dissolves except for a little expected non-soluble fillers. I decide 2 go 4 broke n draw up the entire solution. tie off find a vein yadayadayada have second thoughts n only inject somewhere between 2/3-3/4 of it. Immediately get a pretty intense rush that felt between iv coke n iv meth (more like coke tho) n following the rush felt really good (like a speedy rolling feeling) for about 10min followed by some intense craving that the last 1/4ish left in the rig didnt do much 2 stop (also expected tho). All in all not quite as intense as i thought it was gonna b but still really enjoyable (i had never done meph before so cant compare 2 previous experiences). Also i had been doin tweak for a couple of days before, but not the day of the mephedrone, so there might have been some cross-stimulant tolerance goin on there that weakend the effects of the mephedrone. All in all tho i would recommend wertus product 2 all..
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Just wanted to stop in and say that wertu's meph is great at low doses for reading. I mean, I love to read sober, but a small crystal dosed orally just enhances the experience so much more...I highly recommend it to anyone interested in getting into reading more or those that love to read and want to rekindle their love of the activity.
thanks for the idea. What would be the mg range ? 5-20 ?
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Just wanted to stop in and say that wertu's meph is great at low doses for reading. I mean, I love to read sober, but a small crystal dosed orally just enhances the experience so much more...I highly recommend it to anyone interested in getting into reading more or those that love to read and want to rekindle their love of the activity.
thanks for the idea. What would be the mg range ? 5-20 ?
Yeah, I'd say start there. You can go higher probably, like try starting at 15 mg. Then next time, try 30 if that wasn't enough for a subtle, uplifting stimulating effect. :)
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iagree completely le botbahn, project4's ket is the only way to go! ive never been so deep in a hole with no fear factor (i am prone to bad trips sometimes). their gear is amazingly lucid/manageable/enjoyable. im no expert but thats my small opinion.. i would recommend anyone looking for good fun K to try project4 -a pleasure to do business with as well!... ive been using it as a 'nightcap' when the need for re-doses of this or that starts knocking on my minds door, so i agree with that angle as well!
just ordered more flintstones, can anyone tell me what this batch is like compared to the last?
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iagree completely le botbahn, project4's ket is the only way to go! ive never been so deep in a hole with no fear factor (i am prone to bad trips sometimes). their gear is amazingly lucid/manageable/enjoyable. im no expert but thats my small opinion.. i would recommend anyone looking for good fun K to try project4 -a pleasure to do business with as well!... ive been using it as a 'nightcap' when the need for re-doses of this or that starts knocking on my minds door, so i agree with that angle as well!
just ordered more flintstones, can anyone tell me what this batch is like compared to the last?
Great as always :)
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Cant wait to buy again from wertu, i love your products man, keep Working!
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Ok, i have done this many times already but for this great vendor i will always add another review!
Just got today ANOTHER order from Wertu, this time it was : "4. GR ---=== PRE BAN QUALITY MEPHEDRONE ===---"
shipping: took a bit of processing time dues to the SR downtime so what can we do, but once its out it took 5 days to reach here, a bit longer than previous orders since it was shipped on weekend, but still faster than 99% :)
Packaging: great as always, what i like most about it is that i get a lot of empty baggies to use after i open hes packs, clever stealth...
Products: nice big yellowish crystals that become nice white powder when crushed. by comparing to my previous orders ican say this is same product as hes " STRONGEST MEPHEDRONE EVER!! only small quant. (5g)" , but not the same as the rocks/flinstones (this one is BY FAR MUCH BETTER than the rocks) wertu also included a free pill as usual (last time he included 3 pills and before that he included 2 pills for free)
Quality: AWESOME cathinone! just did 2 lines and im high as fuck and even got some jaw clenching which i never have! - i also have pretty decent tolerance. at previous orders i have swallowed the pills and it did not get much of effect - this time i have crushed the pill, it fell apart easily into white soft powder, and snorted 3 small lines and im so high i find it hard to even write here - something i cannot remember when was the last time it happen!
summary: AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME ! wertu is the man as always, nothing new, but i had to pay my respect with another review :)
Fucking raging I didn't manage to get coin in in time to try any of this. Ah well, have 5gr of the flintstone waiting to try out with a friend this weekend, so it's still good.
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Well i got a chance to try out his "strongest mephedrone ever" listing that I purchased recently, based on microdotter's report its the same one as his "pre-ban". I must say i am impressed. I did experience the meph I thought was gone forever! It certainly is good meph. It might sound ridiculous, but one of the things that stuck with me from the good old days is how meph used to make you smell for days or sometimes a week after - it seeped out of every pore. Now, i ahev tried meph from Lim and Goldust (same stuff really) and i have my doubts about it being meph, I just dont know really, it very well could be but I did not enjoy it all that much. Googleeyed's 4-mmc is in the same category I would say. Wertu's meph however I did enjoy thoroughly, the smell also lingers for quite a few days depending on the amount taken, and as much as I hate it I also love it! So yeah, good stuff all around.
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Pre Ban Type / Strongest Meph is OVER. We don't have any more left and cannot get more!
New product introduced!
White Shinning Mephedrone Powder - check it out... (for some reason I'm not able to upload images to SR about the new product :S will try it later)
Have a beautiful day everybody!
Wertu
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New product introduced!
White Shinning Mephedrone Powder - check it out... (for some reason I'm not able to upload images to SR about the new product :S will try it later)
Have a beautiful day everybody!
Ordered. will report back on this one.
also ordered some "4MEC" to try out will report back on this one as well.
and unfortunately since the better meph is gone now had to go back and order the rocks, which was nice as far as i remember but much less than the "pre-ban" stuff, so just to be safe ordered twice the amount LOL :)
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anyone know what is with Wertu ? :(
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Finally the Forum is back up!!
Now a rrrrrreview! this time AGAIN for Wertu, got from him today:
10g of the rocks meph
1g of 4MEC (was wondering whats the deal with that)
1g of the new powder meph.
and as usual 2 free pills.
Ok so as usual no need to say much, check out my previous reviews for him - shipping is fast, communication easy, overweight products and nice bonus, all good with Wertu as usual, except for the fact that he has no more from the "pre ban" stuff which was excellent!
* even that i have some tolerance from having a big binge last week on Lim's stuff and yesterday i snorted the remaining gram in like 6 lines, i couldn't help my sorry "addicted" ass and try the new stuff :)
now for the products:
Rocks / Flinstones - god i love these rocks they a re so pretty and fun to break, just to see how much powder you can get out of them, great high, strong meph smell, would wish i still bought the "pre ban" stuff but this is just as good!
4MEC - well, to start with i had a problem knowing which bag is the 4MEC and which one is the 1g of powder meph so after reading around i guess its the very small shrady stuff?, anyway a bit hard on the nose - but in the first few lines there is a very nice high, pretty similar to all the other cathinones but a bit shorter. after i mixed everything i cant really tell which one does what :)
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the new "powder meph" - Wertu, i love you man, but this is just crap, please don't sell it, its like a bad batch of meph, it does something but its very sticky and crappy with shitty smell - i did a few lines and didn't like so i capped the whole gram into 2 capsules and bombed them, which was "ok".
Pills - as usual, dropped one sometime sooner and was very nice, and snorted the other one now.
Bottom line: Wertu is the king as always. just get rid of the this crap powdery meph, is not good for business or for anyone, avoid. and hope he will be back in business as soon as possible.
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Just got another shipemt from wertu - as a regular customer there is not much to say as i have said it all before,
wertu is the vendor's king
fast processing and fast shipping, and stealthy as always.
5g of rock
1g Pentedrone (snored small amount, weird and sticky stuff, im not sure since im high already will test in another day and report back )
3 pills and got 2 free ones :)
Praise Wertu!
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Ahh I'm jealous microdotter!
I must say I love his pills...though his rocks are great too!
I think I just miss meph haha. Enjoy!
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Just wanted to say that I FINALLY got around to trying the pills I got as part of a sample pack months ago. I wanted to save them for a truly special night as I've been following the reviews and knew my friends and I would find them fantastic and I wasn't wrong! I tend to be very nervous in crowds and around strangers and after splitting one of these with a friend I was approaching people I only knew in passing to chat and give hugs, dancing in huge crowds while feeling totally comfortable, and making new friends! I have limited experience with meph but I really see what all the fuss is about now. I found the high of these pills to be more consistently euphoric than MDMA and also kept a clear head the entire time, more energy as well. Also the depressive feeling afterwards is so far completely missing, mind you I only took half the pill and a few bumps of lims meph, so around 150 mgs over a few hours.
Anyway, thanks very much wertu and I think I'll be ordering some more product from you in the near future!
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Half a pill and few bumps over few hours did all that? Seriously!? (Even if its your first time eve of any drug!)
God i envy you.
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I didn't say I didn't have anything else in my system at the time ;)
I definitely noticed the meph the most however.
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What ever it was, happy to hear you had a great time! fucking tolerance ruined all my fun.
may i ask what it was mixed with? (i love new combinations)
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225 mgs methylone and 100 mgs mdma, both of which I have decent tolerance to. It was a blast and I didn't even feel too shitty the next day!
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Now this sounds like fun :))
and also might explain much better why you felt such small amounts of meph so good - these are the combination that know how to work together perfectly
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Hey guys, I've never tried meph before and I'm interested in getting some! I'm actually contemplating getting ket or meph... (I've tried ketamine)
Anyways, are his meph pills the same as the shining powder? I was planning on getting the 1g of meph shining powder but as microdotter said its not that great... Well I'm a first time user so would it make a difference? or should I just get 5 meph pills instead if theyre different and crush em then snort?
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Hey guys, I've never tried meph before and I'm interested in getting some! I'm actually contemplating getting ket or meph... (I've tried meph)
Anyways, are his meph pills the same as the shining powder? I was planning on getting the 1g of meph shining powder but as microdotter said its not that great... Well I'm a first time user so would it make a difference? or should I just get 5 meph pills instead if theyre different and crush em then snort?
I tried Wertus powder when he was giving free samples, and it was while ago so I dont know if its the same stuff, but I say go with the pills. I like his rock meph - thats good stuff, but his powder meph was week and when it comes to crushing pills that is a great idea, I did it and it hits you good. All and all I am not quite sure if he is selling reall mephedrone. From my experience I had never seen mephedron in the form of rock like Wertus stuff, but it is some good cathoin for sure - I do enjoy the buzz a lot :) he is also a good vendor - wery fast and stealth. I recommend him for sure.
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Thanks a lot Palmergbl! :) really appreciate it
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Hey guys is there any reports from anybody who has tried injection as the ROA?
Before I answer this question, I'd like to say to everyone reading this 'IF YOU HAVE NEVER INJECTED DRUGS INTO YOUR BODY BEFORE, PLEASE DON'T EVER START'. Or if you do decide too, please sit down with some oldskool heads, and talk to them about their experiences. Do some solid research, then make up your mind!
So anyway...........
I purchased 25g of BIG STONE and 2g of PREBAN from wertu when he first started listing them, and IV is the only ROA me and my close friends use. For this comparison it should be noted that my friend (who I will call 'Bill') and myself, have had a lot of experience with meph since 2007, back when you could order it somewhat legally straight of the clearnet.
For all IV use we use new syringes, about .5 - 1ml of water and a .22mc wheel filter (this hasn't changed in the last 10 years). Keep in mind that the method of injecting is a very easy way to IMMEDIATELY tell of a drugs potency, especially when making a comparison.
PREBAN
This was the first time since 2010 that we would be having mephedrone. Apart from meph (for me) and meph and mdma (for Bill) we don't IV any other drugs anymore, and had both been clean pretty much since the last time we had meph.
As a general consensus, we both agreed that wertu's PREBAN was pretty much the same as the old days.
Same/Similar Effects
- The rush and euphoria
- Immediate sweating
- Slight eye wiggles, not being able to concentrate on drawing/computer screen for a minute or two (which for us, always happened - sometimes quite severely - with strong oldskool meph)
- The immediate drop into the land of concentration and creativity
- The empathy and connection with each other
- Duration
- Gentle/no come down
Different Effects
When I think back over the crazy amount of oldskool meph I did, wertu's PREBAN was on point, and very similar to what we got back in the day. The only real noticeable difference was that the smell your body emitted after a binge, only lasted around 3 days, whereas oldskool meph last for anywhere up to 6, sometimes 7 days. However, it should be noted that we only had 2g between us, so not really a binge at all :)
BIG STONE
Ill just write a short comparison for this. Everything was the same except dialed back maybe 1 notch (out of a scale of 5). Some similar aspects which cant be noted with only 2g of PREBAN, were; small electrical sparks throughout the body after prolonged use and a fucked up equilibrium after stopping, after prolonged use.
Let me make this clear, from doing a truckload of cathinones in my time, wertu's product IS NOT 4-MEC
Hope this will help some people.
PE
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@ HEARTS... stop right there and get yourself some of the flinstone rocks! the shining powder is a very poor second to the rocks... i have pre-ban experience (not meaning to big myself up here) and the rocks are the closest to pre-ban that wertu is listing...
wertu is an organized and proper vendor and i would suggest to start on the rocks before you try anything else he is listing... the pills were ok, but only on a clear mind.. rocks will get you an almost meph-type buzz, go with them i would say ;)
..i would also recommend project4s ketamine, in my opinion, the most fun ive had on K.
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Only coming to brag a little: I just received some of Wertu rocky meph - 25 g that is.... shit its gonna be fucking awesome summer!! By the way he is fucking super fast! Thanks Wertu !!
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...isn't the summer already over buddy?
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...isn't the summer already over buddy?
I didn't want to be the one to piss in his Cheerio's but you went right out and did it, didn't you? Well, now that there's already piss in the bowl, I guess I'll tinkle a little in there too- summer is pretty much over...
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There is still a month left....jealous haters :)
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...isn't the summer already over buddy?
I purposely saved most of my summer fun for the last month so I didn't need to be depressed about it starting to end :D
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...isn't the summer already over buddy?
I purposely saved most of my summer fun for the last month so I didn't need to be depressed about it starting to end :D
Haha, genius!
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Just received:
10G MEPHEDRONE, BEST QUALITY ( GUARANTEE) STRONG !
Dude seriously chems2u.com sells the same shit and it's called B2.
This is not mephedrone. Guaranteed.
Your name might as well be sonicDrone. cause he sold the same B$. Thanks for getting my hopes up Douche. OBTW all yall acting like you know your drone. yall got fooled by this Asshead.
Wertu? Chems2u.com Fuck this douche and his over priced Bull
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Just received:
10G MEPHEDRONE, BEST QUALITY ( GUARANTEE) STRONG !
Dude seriously chems2u.com sells the same shit and it's called B2.
This is not mephedrone. Guaranteed.
wow now that is interesting, do the B2 thing also come in rocky form like Wertus mephedrone? daveh0we maybe you can give a link to some pictures of B2 to compare theme with Wertus stuff because there are non on the chems2u.com site.
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B2 was usually a white powder, very fine - never in rock form. It felt cathinone-like and smelt like cat piss but was a little more sinister, with a much longer comedown than meph, that was when it was 'good' 2/3 years ago. Now I hear you don't feel anything from it at all..
I can categorically state that Wertu's stuff is not the same as 'B2', and clearly B2 is also not a chemical name. The product that daveh0we is talking about was being, and is still being sold 'legally', but is most likely just a combination of whatever RC dust is kicking around at the time.
Wertu's stuff may not be pure but it is definitely cathinone based.
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i accidently removed my rewier on the product page, so i am writing here.
Speed : Next day delivery domestic.
Package : Great stealth
Quality : It makes me fly, like preban mephedrone. I took lots of mephedrone, so beleive me its very nice.
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Hi Wertu in case Silk Road is down, are you planning to operate on some other market or in any other way (through tor mail or sth) ? Lets keep in touch :)
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Hi yall, :(
It seems that this date unfortunately will be something which we all remember to.
2nd of Oct.2013 - "Black Wednesday"!!! :(
Probably by now you all know that this story is over. SR with all the bitcoins and relevant private information is in the hand of FBI. (((
It means that all current orders which haven’t been confirmed before the seizure are pretty much stuck in the system and right now we see no chance of get a hold of those information. So these orders will not go out and we are unable to offer you any kind of refund for your losses. We feel really sorry for those of you guys who lost your money, but seriously we have no way of solving this situation.
Orders which were already marked in transit are on the way, and you will receive it soon. Do not worry about finalization this time…. Be happy with your really last received product from SR!
We believe that if you used encryption or you are only a buyer for self-use, you won’t have to worry too much.
At the moment we really don’t know what do. We are also kind of afraid of the investigation which may involve us also.
But, we are working on to solve this situation, and soon you maybe see us on some other site.
If we have any update where can you find us in the future we will let you know.
Stay safe yall!
All the Best,
Wertu
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Thanks for all the good times Wertu, fingers crossed we'll see you again!
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thanks for your service and I hope it will all run good for your team Wertu!
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Wertu...u are a class act...great product and cust. service...please b back soon Feel free to message me as ive just received ur health supplies and i want to continue a happy healthy life....thanks again!!!