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Title: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: Thirdplace on June 12, 2013, 06:30 pm
This first post is the only one of real relevance on this first page, the rest is primarily drama.  The second page is where I anticipate this thread will start.

So I'm re-opening shop.  I've been a vendor here in the past, and I'm opening my doors for business again.  I only ship domestically in the US.

I'll start by offering some cheap samples of my 2CB for the purposes of proving my legitimacy to the new generation of silk road travelers and generating some additional feedback.  I'd like to send these samples to individuals who've established themselves on the forums.  In addition I'd PREFER if the individuals were 'reliable reviewers' with experience taking psychedelics.  If you're not a 'reliable reviewer' as per the list good old blarg made, but you raise your right hand and solemnly swear to return expediently with a full review, you can still be qualified. :P If you feel that you deserve a sample, post here or pm me and tell me why. 

The samples consist of 2 caps each filled with 16-18mg for $10.  I consider 16-18mg to be a 'comfortable dose' where I can function if I need to, but I can still definitely feel and appreciate the effects. It's literally the best 2CB I've had.  Nawlins claims his is the best on the road; I disagree but try us both and see what you think, then post about it so everyone gets some insight.  My caps here are the cheapest domestic option for the amount of product you receive, maybe even on the road. Purchase the listing and take a psychedelic adventure with a friend.  Then come back and tell us how it went. :)

I will never ask someone to FE.  Because of that I've decided on a set of general requirements for ordering from me.  If you do not meet the following requirements you may pm me and inquire if an exception may be made.

You may NOT order from me if:

you have not been a member for 3 months
You have less than 10 transactions
You have a refund rate in excess of 10%
You have any AF rate
You have spent less than twice the amount you're spending with me

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When you order from me, you won't have to worry about whether the item will arrive.  Drug dogs aren't trained to smell 2CB or Xanax.  In addition to that, upon opening the mail piece, it would not immediately be apparent that there are illicit materials present.  In the future I may charge an additional fee for this, but it just seems like good business practice to disguise the contents; so for now, there will be no additional charge.

Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: enpiping on June 12, 2013, 07:01 pm
In addition to that, upon opening the mail piece, it would immediately be apparent that there are illicit materials present.  In the future
Just pointing out that you probably mean "wouldn't immediately be apparent." :)
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: Thirdplace on June 12, 2013, 07:20 pm
Thank you! :D you are very much correct sir. In appreciation for your polite correction I'd waive the prerequisites for making an order if you were interested. 
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: enpiping on June 12, 2013, 08:06 pm
Thank you! :D you are very much correct sir. In appreciation for your polite correction I'd waive the prerequisites for making an order if you were interested.
Next time I'm in the market for some 2cb (love the stuff, but I'm not looking for any right now), I'll keep my eye out for you. :) Thanks though!
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: Thirdplace on June 12, 2013, 10:24 pm
Awesome.  I hope you find what you're looking for. 

Thanks for your time, assistance, and for considering a purchase from me. :)
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: Thirdplace on June 13, 2013, 01:20 am
Keep your eyes open everyone. There has been a considerable amount of what seriously appears to be scammer activity going in the past month and it has been increasing in frequency as well. This vendor has supposedly been open in the past but the account is only 4 months old and there has only been one sale in that time period. It's easy to fake your own feedback. Also, even at that price it is just as, if not more expensive for the trip than an LSD trip.

Also noteworthy to pay attention to is the first sentence in the last paragraph:

"When you order from me, you won't have to worry about whether the item will arrive."

Seems like a great way to instill confidence in potential buyers right?

I ALMOST didn't give this person the dignity of a response, but I figure that would look bad on me, so here goes:

Hey buddy, look at my user ID number on the forums.  That's right, I was the 1,219th person to register on the forums, you were number 56,509.   Then click on my profile and look when this FORUM account was made.  Compare that to yours.  This account will be 2 years old next month and my market account was made first so it's even closer to 2 years old. I don't even know where you got the number 4 months, but if anyone would like to view my account, please do so. 

Of course I've been active in the past, only 1 sale currently showing, but I addressed that in the OP, feel free to go back and read it. :)  You imply that I would fake feedback, but why would I only do that once?  if it was my intent to fabricate my own feedback I'd have well over 100 transactions in 4 months with a 100% rating and I wouldn't need to give out free samples.  Hell, if that's the case why wouldn't I be insisting on FE and have high priced items?  I have taken that option off the table completely by posting this on my vendor page before making this OP and listing any items:
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Escrow. Use it. I will not perform transactions outside of escrow. Period. Because of this I will be placing a set of requirements on ordering from me. If you do not meet the requirements, you may pm me, explain your discrepancy, and offer an explanation.

You may NOT order from me if:

you have not been a member for 3 months
You have less than 10 transactions
You have a refund rate in excess of 10%
You have any AF rate
You have spent less than twice the amount you're spending with me

So, if I don't permit FE, I'm not selling high priced items, and I've limited the quantity listed to 5, on what basis do you imply that I'm a scammer?

In addition to that, you said,
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Also noteworthy to pay attention to is the first sentence in the last paragraph:

"When you order from me, you won't have to worry about whether the item will arrive."

Seems like a great way to instill confidence in potential buyers right?

Any vendor that wants to be successful should want to instill confidence in their potential buyers, right?  Wouldn't that be taught in the first day of Business101?  I think you're intending to infer that I'm being deceitful or sneaky in some fashion for the purpose of leading people astray and cheating them out of their money.  If that were the case why would I include this in the listing for the item:
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The package will have a hand written address.
 

It strikes me that if a vendor wanted to fool or defraud the customer it would be to claim something good about the packaging like DutchTrade did, not claim that the package would be subpar by some standards. For those of you who aren't aware: DutchTrade claimed on 2 separate occasions that he had begun to use MMB for shipping, when he had not.

That being said, I would like to address it directly.  Handwritten addresses will only be for the immediate future.  Within a week I hope to be using printed labels.


If you're another vendor trying to make a scene, please save it.  This was a pitiful attempt at best.  I don't want to steal anyone's customers, I want to make a name for myself and EARN my customer's respect.  If this was an honest attempt at harm reduction, I applaud your intentions, but seriously man, put a little thought into things like this.  Claiming someone is a scammer is nothing to be taken lightly.  Either way, +1 for effort.
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: Thirdplace on June 13, 2013, 02:05 am
The account says one year old but what in the world do you only have one transaction listed in the past 4 months for?

Westley says it better than I could... Ahem:

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I'll explain and I'll use small words so that you'll be sure to understand, you warthog-faced baboon!
8)

Did you not read my vendor profile at all?  Just look at the numbers? I'll quote the first 2 sentences here:

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I've been here for a long time, though I haven't sold much recently. My transaction count was reset several revisions of the rating system ago so I only have a few showing, but my rating remained.

There have been a number of revisions to the rating system over the past couple years.  One of them erased the text and counter from the orders prior to that.  It didn't change your rating(100%), so it didn't affect most vendors as they already had a CURRENT clientelle.  In fact, it didn't affect me till you started making a scene.  The reason is because I haven't been actively vending here in the last YEAR(with the exception of 1 transaction). 

Any more complaints?

Seriously though, you just smashed into like 3 vendors threads and started making accusations.  WTF? Then I saw you wrote this somewhere else:
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'm pretty sure that everyone needs to assume that all new vendors are potential scammers just so they do the research on the vendors past threads.

One thing that appears to be more common lately is vendors having problems of any sort in the beginning of setting up shop. If they don't have the funds to go ahead and do that from the beginning then its is likely they are up to no good. (I'm guess here so correct me if I am wrong. Thanks!)

Why should all new vendors be considered scammers?  they paid a hefty fee to avoid that pitfall.  you're making blanket statements with nothing to back them up and inciting people to fear-mongering.  In addition to that you say "one thing that appears to be more common lately..."  You haven't been around long enough to know what's common or not, you've just gotten here lately.  You were just learning how to use pgp 3 months ago:http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=107219.msg890818#msg890818

/pwng
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: Thirdplace on June 13, 2013, 05:54 am
Well, have your 'member' come talk to me on the thread. I'd love to speak to him. My 2CB is second to none.  He definitely wouldn't want to miss the opportunity to try this stuff.

Where do you get your idea of 'how things work around here'? And what give's your friend the impression that this seems like "LE entrapment or something unsavory".  LE's MO would be to go for people moving weight or trying to get bulk clients.  I want nothing of the sort.
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: DigitalDong on June 13, 2013, 01:13 pm
I'd be happy to help you get established with a sample :D
the dong does reviews well. and has been thinking of doing some 2cb :)
put out 3 samples and i garantee u business will return 20 fold ;)
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: DigitalDong on June 13, 2013, 01:15 pm
sux you been a vendor for a year and only 1 review?
need some help let your product do the talking for you :D
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: Thirdplace on June 14, 2013, 01:57 am
I received a message from AnonyPunk.  Normally I wouldn't post this, but I will for a couple of reasons.  First, I was given permission.  Second I would like to publicly say that I appreciate this person. We've all made mistakes, but this person has enough decency to be ashamed, and more than that to ACTUALLY APOLOGIZE!  Wow.  That's really rare these days.  I wouldn't have thought to find such behavior on an anonymous forum that has a large focus on drugs. Thirdly, this message pertains to the post I'm about to make immediately following this one.  Without further ado, the message:

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From: anonypunk
I truly apologize for the frustration. It's been sickening the amount of scammers that are out and  want to help as best I can. I realize was out of line and hope that you have not lost any business because of my post. I admit I should have researched more before I posted this. Please feel free to copy the text of this message if you'd like and post it in a response in this thread. Could you return the favor by deleting my posts and if not at least add that I have seen my error and apologized. I was seriously trying to do the right thing. Have a great night and again I offer my sincere apology.
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: Thirdplace on June 14, 2013, 02:02 am
All speculation aside (which really isn't necessary anyway, I give you that): why would one not go with an established, tried and true member?

Give away a couple free samples. It won't kill you. It's what up and coming vendors do. And it works.
I think most members find it a bit arrogant for a new vendor to do the opposite (as you are).

You're not making your case any better. And if you can't afford a couple free samples, I question your ability to vend.

And just to be clear, I don't want your samples. Shit, these aren't samples anyway. Their essentially full price pills. Hardly a sample.

You want to go head to head with the top 2CB vendors? Show it. Show the market what you have.
Choose your samplers. And choose them wisely.

I'm not saying offer samples up to every member that comes along. Might as well burn money. But there ARE members you can trust. And if you can only offer a limited amount, offer it to them. They will come to you if you're too lazy to look.

Free samples to select individuals my friend. Ask for resumes. Take your time. Choose them carefully, take care of them, and the favor shall be returned.

It's alot more efficient that random $11  "samples" to whoever wants them. As a new vendor. Like yourself.

Just one or two man. That's all I'm saying. And I'm just trying to help. And I'll tell you this- being argumentative isn't going to help your cause brother.

But I truly wish you all the best :) I'm also high so pardon any misunderstandings.

Once again, I almost don't want to dignify this with a response.  I will do so, however I'm growing weary of this. If you don't have anything constructive to add and you don't qualify for a sample, why are you posting? It's seeming more like you're just a kid with no money and no reputation that wants free drugs.  YOU come into MY thread with nothing to add and talk shit. Not only that, but even if the samples weren't free, you don't meet the qualifications to order from me.  I'm not being argumentative, I'm simply responding to people who've addressed me.  Would it be better to ignore you?  I could do that...

You said in both messages that I shouldn't charge for samples?  I wrote this last night, but was waiting to post it till your friend who qualifies to order posted so I could address it to this character, but here goes: The first time you try a new beer, or cigarette or anything you generally don't get it for free.  Often there's a promotion or special as incentive for customers to try it.  I currently have the lowest US domestic price for the weight you would be receiving.  I think that's fair incentive.  Is there a particular reason I should be giving away perfectly good drugs just because a few other vendors have chosen to?

You say these are full priced?  Find another vendor offering this much for this price domestically in the US.  Post here for our benefit.  Not only that, but I never said I wanted to go head to head with any other vendors.  In fact, I said the opposite.
"I don't want to steal anyone's customers, I want to make a name for myself and EARN my customer's respect."

Now, look at my account. It's not FirstPlace for a reason.  I don't want to be a 1% vendor.  I'd much prefer to be like 3Jane.  Well respected.  Taken at my word.  Sells out the HOUR product is listed.  That gives me the opportunity to have a life outside of this box, yet still be able to make a little money and share the love.

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Hmm, I've just been reading over the past couple posts, and I've noticed something.  I do believe that DigitalDong and skeletid are one and the same. skeletid keeps saying if I give out free samples, I'll get a bunch of business, and keeps telling me, "that's how it's done," and that I want a lot of business, when in reality, I don't.  I don't have time to be flooded with orders; I just have a great product and want to share the love and make a little cheddar in my spare time.

The real irony is here:  skeletid referred to his other account as a 'member'.  I told him to have his 'member' come talk to me on the thread, so he did.  Pretty quick DigitalDong shows up. *I'd like credit, I really wanted to tell him to shove it up his DigitalAss*

I'd be happy to help you get established with a sample :D
the dong does reviews well. and has been thinking of doing some 2cb :)
put out 3 samples and i garantee u business will return 20 fold ;)

So now, DD plays parrot to skeletid and follows suit with telling me I need to give out samples and I'll get a ton of orders.  Then asking for a sample.

All in all, it's been pretty amusing and frustrating,  but you know what?  I'm going to take your advice.  I haven't had any takers yet and so I'm going to offer AnonyPunk a free sample.  I hope you can take his word as gospel when he gives a review of my product and shipping since he started out trying to discredit me.  This is of course if he accepts, I suppose I shouldn't get ahead of myself.

I had considered contacting a few well thought of members of the community to be samplers, but I discarded that idea since I thought it would be inappropriate.  Since it was brought up, I will post that question in a thread of it's own.
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: anonypunk on June 14, 2013, 02:54 am
Just wanted anyone who has read this to be aware that I have apologized to the vendor privately for responding to this thread without spending more time making sure what I was said was correct. It was reactionary in every way.

I will add that the people with vendor accounts who are untrustworthy and offer free sample without any intention of sending them and with multiple vendor accounts makes it harder to tell the good from bad.

I deleted my posts so my conscious is clear regarding this.

Thanks for the sample offer but I will have to decline this one. I'm sure someone else could use it more than I can. Have a great day and good luck on the road vending. I'm sure you'll be an excellent vendor and have years of success.
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: Thirdplace on June 14, 2013, 03:33 am
Thanks for your kind words.  :)
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: Thirdplace on June 14, 2013, 04:05 am
I appreciate that.  :)  No hard feelings. 

Just to show you that this isn't a sentiment I recently adopted on samples.  Here's a link to a post back in january when I wasn't listing anything.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=109778.msg747859#msg747859
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: Gary Oak on June 14, 2013, 04:22 am
I'm just hopping back on the road myself, I'd love to sample your 2C-B in exchange for a review. I've got plenty of experience with all types of psychedelics and have done reviews in the past so let me know if I'm down for one! :))
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: anonypunk on June 14, 2013, 04:34 am
Thirdplace it seems as if starting a new thread and removing this one would just be much more simpler and less damaging overall but you left it up and for what reason really? Some sort of retaliation? I don't feel that was necessary after your response and then my almost immediate apology and removal of my thread. I'm slightly confused on how leaving this is good. To show everyone that I made a mistake?

Well I admitted it and agreed to responding too quickly and like I said I don't feel that I am in the wrong for trying to help people to remain cautious.
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: Thirdplace on June 14, 2013, 05:11 am
GaryOak, you may go ahead and order a sample.  The listing is on my page.  I remember your posts and I'd be honored to have you sample my product.

Anonypunk: It is in no sort retaliation.  The reason I've left it for the moment being is that I've got a commitment to doing everything in the open so that nobody can say I was being deceitful.  I don't want someone to accuse me of attempting to hide my posts.  I need to keep my reputation for being honest.  I don't post anything without being willing to be held accountable for it.  What I might do is stop posting here, start a new thread, and let this thread die into obscurity.  If it's not my primary thread, it won't likely get posted on in which case nobody would see it. Would that be acceptable to you? Feel free to pm me your reply so this doesn't get bumped back to the top of the list.
Title: Re: Grand Re-Opening. Promotional Offer. 2CB samples.
Post by: Gary Oak on June 14, 2013, 06:49 am
Wicked man, I'll order them tomorrow since I have to get some coins for shrooms anyways. Hopefully they'll help spice up the review haha. ;)