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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Virmo on October 28, 2012, 11:37 pm

Title: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: Virmo on October 28, 2012, 11:37 pm
Ok, so this will sound very lame. And I do not know of an appropriate place on the forum to put it, but I'll try it here anyways.

I want to sell (read: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=59764.0 ) But just the initial products at first to get some experience with it, while also not putting myself at a huge risk (like with cocaine/meth/heroin).

SR is truly an amazing place. You can get almost anything here, BUT most of the stuff is overpriced.
Perhaps I'm too much of an idealist, but I think good drugs need good prices. And also with a good description instead of just (GOOD PRODUCT/BEST-CHEAPEST ON SR!!!). I'm also missing links to informative websites like how much to use and maybe more importantly: what not to use when having a medical condition, or what could be dangerous interactions.

Now the problem is that I didn't expect the fee to even become a vendor would be so high. This is why I want to discuss some things on here first, make connections IRL and things like that.
At the moment I just don't see how it's going to be possible for me to pay the vendor fee. And now the lame question: would somebody/anybody be willing to help out? Even tiny bits would be helpful. Then if you order something from me in the future, of course I will put in some extra in return.

I have some savings, but far, far away from being enough. Once I can become a trusted vendor, I can get money for bulk orders of probably a lot of stuff. Mostly high quality mdma/xtc/speed. Currently looking into the coke business, but people dealing in that always are looking for more money (especially if they use it themselves).
LSD and 2cb is way overpriced here as well and I hope I can lower the prices with this initiative.

Hopefully this message will not be taken the wrong way. There is no need for me to scam, since then I can not build up the business that I'd like to see.

If you want to help out, please do so. If you just want to say I am a scammer while just making assumptions, please keep those words inside your own mind.

Peace and love to all!   ;D

Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: Virmo on October 29, 2012, 01:35 pm
People don't want cheaper drugs for less money?
Donating will be worth it. And like I said, pm and get a bonus, or for the price I buy it myself without extra.

It's either get a vendor account and sell nothing cuz of no money left. Or get drugs but can't sell them.
Fuck having not enough money to make money!

Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: BeansUSA on October 29, 2012, 02:02 pm
Its expensive for a reason, not because people are greedy, but a couple of things.

1.  SR charges a fee per transaction
2.  Exchanging bitcoins to REAL money takes a LARGE cut

So after all these fees we are getting less money than on the streets.
Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: Virmo on October 29, 2012, 04:15 pm
Wow, are you the hero member?

I'll decide for myself if I will become a vendor or not. I already have a supply which I listed on here. Used money to get stash. Now don't have money to become a vendor. I did not know it was 13+ BTC until I clicked on that button.
I'm offering people free stuff who donate. So what is your problem with me? You like good products on SR as well, right? Or would you rather buy shit for a normal price times 2-100?
One guy buys mdma crystal here. 1 gram for about 5btc, then sells it only within the USA for 50+ btc. That is just ripping people off. I hate scammers, I hate people being ripped off and I hate you telling me what I did or didn't think through or should do.
Keep your business to yourself please.
Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: Moon Fried on October 29, 2012, 04:28 pm
Wow, are you the hero member?

I'll decide for myself if I will become a vendor or not. I already have a supply which I listed on here. Used money to get stash. Now don't have money to become a vendor. I did not know it was 13+ BTC until I clicked on that button.
I'm offering people free stuff who donate. So what is your problem with me? You like good products on SR as well, right? Or would you rather buy shit for a normal price times 2-100?
One guy buys mdma crystal here. 1 gram for about 5btc, then sells it only within the USA for 50+ btc. That is just ripping people off. I hate scammers, I hate people being ripped off and I hate you telling me what I did or didn't think through or should do.
Keep your business to yourself please.

He's not trying to be rude, don't take it the wrong way. He brings up a very good point though... if you can't pay the initial vendor price, then you're not ready. I'm not saying you shouldn't be a vendor, but you need to be prepared for whatever it takes if you're going to start dealing here. In fact, the vendor fee should be the very least of your worries.

Okay, so now you're prolly done hearing all of this BS. So you want to become a vendor, but have no moniez? This is where your friends, irl or online, come in. Start offering your product to people you know, but don't try posting publicly here. Save up that money. I'm already doing this with an upcoming MXE vendor on these forums, he doesn't have enough money to pay the vendor fee, but has a large supply. Be honest, be legit, provide the best service you can. It'll come back to you. This method is better than asking for donations and THEN giving the product after you become a vendor.

I think your view on the prices here are a little exaggerated. Yes, there are a few drugs that are way overpriced on the road, but other than those you can find a lot of really great deals. Plus, buying in bulk almost always guarantees at least a decent discount.

You're taking the input of your fellow SR members the wrong way. We're not posting here to discourage you, we're trying to prepare you for when you're ready for being a vendor. If you don't like it, you can head on over to BMR, but I'm sure you'd rather just stay here. :P
Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: Virmo on October 29, 2012, 04:44 pm
Perhaps it was a miscommunication indeed.
Already doing stuff IRL. But not every expense can be planned.

Thanks for the words of advice. Also about the donation and then goodies thing. I would probably interpreted that as a bit sketchy.

Too bad nobody replies to my current product offering. I guess I'll need to update it a bit and take a different approach to things :)

I'll prove myself someday. Need to be patient instead of rushing into selling.

About the overpriced part. That depends for a great deal where you live. I could get one gram 85% pure mdma for 2btc's when I still had the connections. And that was not for a bulk order.
Then again, there are many fees and safety risks/postage costs. But buying for 5 and selling for 20 is just being greedy :)
But as long as there are people willing those prices, why the hell not if your conscious can bare it? I'm too much of a hippie for that myself.

 ::)
Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: Moon Fried on October 29, 2012, 04:52 pm
Perhaps it was a miscommunication indeed.
Already doing stuff IRL. But not every expense can be planned.

Thanks for the words of advice. Also about the donation and then goodies thing. I would probably interpreted that as a bit sketchy.

Too bad nobody replies to my current product offering. I guess I'll need to update it a bit and take a different approach to things :)

I'll prove myself someday. Need to be patient instead of rushing into selling.

About the overpriced part. That depends for a great deal where you live. I could get one gram 85% pure mdma for 2btc's when I still had the connections. And that was not for a bulk order.
Then again, there are many fees and safety risks/postage costs. But buying for 5 and selling for 20 is just being greedy :)
But as long as there are people willing those prices, why the hell not if your conscious can bare it? I'm too much of a hippie for that myself.

 ::)

2 BTC for 85% molly? Dayum! You sure that wasn't methylone? Haha, just teasing. You must have been getting it off of someone with a very large supply. You can still get molly at that price per gram from the SR if you find the right vendor and buy enough in bulk. Buying for 5 then selling for 20 is indeed expensive. That would be about $50 and selling for $200... the most I would ever sell a gram of molly for, and this is if it's moon rock, is for $120. On SR, if I was a vendor, I would probably charge about $60 for gram sales.

But yeoo, send me a PM.
Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: gregorwallneri on October 29, 2012, 05:24 pm
If you want to help out, please do so. If you just want to say I am a scammer while just making assumptions, please keep those words inside your own mind.

proven point then! :) have fun with the free money.
Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: Virmo on October 29, 2012, 06:01 pm
If you want to help out, please do so. If you just want to say I am a scammer while just making assumptions, please keep those words inside your own mind.

proven point then! :) have fun with the free money.

There is no proven point here. But your title sais it all: "Once an ass always an ass".

Please just don't reply to me again or make it more useful.

About the 1g mdma for 2btc (actually it was 20 euros) was from a nice girl.
The scene I'm from don't do it for the money, they do it to make people have nice times at parties. And I think that is the way it should be. Unfortunately this world is fucked up besides that scene (and even in the scene).
Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: odd on October 29, 2012, 06:02 pm
I want to make it clear in the beginning of this that I'm not calling you a scammer, or trying to tell you what to do.  All I'm doing is expressing my concerns as a possible future customer which I hope you will take seriously since customer service is vital in this type of environment.  When I first read your post instantly red flags went up.  When I first came to SR and joined the forums it was a matter of hours while doing research on encrypting, anonymity and so on that I learned how and how much it would cost to open a vendor account.  The fact you didn't know this tells me that you are rushing into this with little thought or planning in the safety and security of yourself or those who are buying from you.  If you can't afford the vendor page what about vacuum sealing supplies? What about shipping costs? Because until you've made thirty some odd transactions your customers can't finalize early so you can't use that money since it will be tied up in escrow.  Being a vendor here is not something to take lightly.  Once again I'm only sharing my intial reaction to what I read so maybe you can clarify somethings.  Because as it is right now I wouldn't feel safe dealing with you.  We're not trying to bash you just keep you safe.
Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: Virmo on October 29, 2012, 07:08 pm
Yes, customer comes first. And customers should be made happy with their purchases.

"When I first came to SR and joined the forums it was a matter of hours while doing research on encrypting, anonymity and so on that I learned how and how much it would cost to open a vendor account. "

I know about encrypting, even give advice to people about it. I don't think I understand this part : " and so on that I learned how and how much it would cost to open a vendor account."
I assume you're not talking about the costs in BTC's here, but about being a 100% secure vendor, with no option of BTC's being traced to you as a person. Of this I am aware.

The vacuum thing is not yet an option to me, but I'm working on that. It's not rocket science. Also not that you need to use gloves and that tape is very good for getting fingerprints on this.

Vacuum sealing and shipping costs will be covered by customers I suppose. Although I might not charge for vacuum.

FE is not recommended ever anyway. Although I wouldn't mind ofcourse, I'm not sure I'd ever need it besides of getting more product faster.
I have to start small. Make little money with little money, risk losing money and starting all over. All with the hopes that eventually I can make decent money while asking decent prices for decent/good/awesome products.

I do think that customers are responsible for a big part of their own safety. Not using PGP is a choice. Ordering a lot of stuff within a small period of time is a choice (mailman or woman could find that odd), ordering extremely illegal substances is a choice). I do not feel responsible for that. Just for good stealthy delivery and happy customers.

Maybe I'm still missing points here. If so I'd be happy to hear about it.

Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: gregorwallneri on October 29, 2012, 07:33 pm
I hope no one catches the burn here
Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: gregorwallneri on October 29, 2012, 08:45 pm
It doesn't matter what you did with your money or whether I think you should become a vendor or not. What you are doing is against SR rules. You need to respect the rules like everybody else had to.
+1 and to add something you might want a new alias.. when i make a vendor page i made a whole new personality that i use when i post.
Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: Virmo on October 29, 2012, 09:13 pm
-1 to the pathetic loser who gave me a -1 karma.
-1 karma to you IRL little bitch. Just trying to set up a nice vendor. Read somewhere that a person avoided SR forum cuz of the people being assholes. I can more and more relate to that.

You'll get the -1 back though when I can. Don't worry.
Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: Moon Fried on October 29, 2012, 09:33 pm
-1 to the pathetic loser who gave me a -1 karma.
-1 karma to you IRL little bitch. Just trying to set up a nice vendor. Read somewhere that a person avoided SR forum cuz of the people being assholes. I can more and more relate to that.

You'll get the -1 back though when I can. Don't worry.

Karma doesn't mean shit on these forums, don't worry about it. Gave you a +1 though to make it even though.
Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: Virmo on October 29, 2012, 10:11 pm
Haha thank you. It does though if you're planning to use the same name for vending or buying. But that's not very smart anyway.
I'll just reprogram my brain to ignore irrelevant messages  :-*

Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: Moon Fried on October 30, 2012, 02:29 am
Haha thank you. It does though if you're planning to use the same name for vending or buying. But that's not very smart anyway.
I'll just reprogram my brain to ignore irrelevant messages  :-*

True, but even with bad karma, you can still satisfy your customers and have them posting about how great you are on a potential review thread. You might even want to just create a different vendor name as suggested, but that removes the option of being able to publicly communicate with your customer base on the forums.
Title: Re: Virmo upcoming vendor (needing help :(
Post by: Virmo on October 30, 2012, 08:30 am
Yeah, true. Though I could also make a new profile account.
Don't know what I'll do yet. Currently thinking of a nice vendor name. Virmo was for selling btc as a vendor. But that is actually more risky than sending drugs :(