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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: grdr on January 17, 2013, 04:35 pm

Title: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: grdr on January 17, 2013, 04:35 pm
Hello so here's what happened today: I wanted to get high very much because I was sober over a week and did not have any drugs and only drug which would be worth some bang for a buck is amphetamine+methamphetamine(crank). So I bought half a gram smelled it and the smell was o previously very good crank I had so I was confident that I'll get high. I put the powder in a spoon (clean) and put water on it. When I poured water  from a new syringe ( I never share anything with anyone) I noticed some bigger chunk. Did not think much of it at first so I shake the solution there's plenty leftover since it's very dirty meth so I heated abit and burned off some by accident. Well I put in new cotton and sucked liquid up it was clear. Injected IV got a very very mild and short rush barely feelable my eyes did not dilute too. Well i thought i need to dissolve that chunk added some more water and started rubbing it with a plunger and I realised it was cotton. I bought this  from junkies I know they use heroin but don't use meth ( I only did not buy heroin because there's a higher chance they would try to short me or screw me over and I couldn't do anything about it because it's a  dangerous place where I score and I know they have diseases HEP C for sure and maybe HIV so I'm not keen to get into fight because I'm afraid they could stick me with a needle or stab me). Well I don't know what to think I always practised safe drug use but here's one stupid mistake and I probably am HEP C positive and maybe some other nasty diseases. I threw the rest out don't want to use any drugs now at all. I don't know if it was used though all I know is that powder was stuck on that cotton I mean why would anyone put cotton in a plastic baggie full of powder. It wasn't rolled into a ball too so I still have some hope but the chances is very high i'm infected if it was used.
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: valakki on January 17, 2013, 05:18 pm
bummer.  go see a doctor after  comedown. get tested.
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: grdr on January 17, 2013, 06:34 pm
just want to know what the probability % is to get infected lets say from used cotton ? and how long till it shows up? better be prepared for worst.
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: Ballzinator on January 17, 2013, 08:14 pm
just want to know what the probability % is to get infected lets say from used cotton ? and how long till it shows up? better be prepared for worst.
I think the probability is rather pretty damn small. I've seen a heroin addict in some documentary (can't remember which one) sharing needles with his buddy, who he knew had Hep C, multiple times without becoming infected. And with a tiny piece of cotton the probability is considerably lower.
Also, Hep C can't survive outside the body for more than four days.
Virus particles (HCV RNA) can be detected after one to two weeks and Hep C antibodies can be detected after three to twelve weeks.

There is nothing you can do about your situation right now so calm down and take measures when the time comes.
Good luck.
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: grdr on January 17, 2013, 08:25 pm
well thanks for answers
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: Ben on January 18, 2013, 03:05 am
Do get tested if you are in any doubt though. While there is an excellent vaccine against hep a and b (twinrix) there is none that completely protects agtainst hep c. Hep c is not all that virulent, but if you were to be infected it would be best to take action as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: H on January 18, 2013, 04:20 am
just want to know what the probability % is to get infected lets say from used cotton ? and how long till it shows up? better be prepared for worst.

They said it, definitely get tested. You can get hep c from sharing the same water, cotton, needle, spoon.. And alcohol doesn't even kill it.
With that being said, rather Hepatitis c that HIV/AIDS. It really isn't all that bad, as long as you take care of yourself.. But I understand nobody wants an incurable disease in the first place.
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: HarmReduction on January 18, 2013, 02:57 pm
Hi firstly mate I am sorry at what you have gone through. Firstly your chance of getting HIV from the cotton is 0% HIV is only transmitted from fresh blood to fresh blood it wont live in the open air . Secondly there have been alot of recorded incidences of people getting HEP C through using filters spoons etc as @H said this is because the  HEP C virus is minute and can live outside the body in dried blood for upto 6 weeks  . I would definately get tested. There are several tests which can be done depending on the test will depend how long it takes to get the result.
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: grdr on January 18, 2013, 03:20 pm
Hi firstly mate I am sorry at what you have gone through. Firstly your chance of getting HIV from the cotton is 0% HIV is only transmitted from fresh blood to fresh blood it wont live in the open air . Secondly there have been alot of recorded incidences of people getting HEP C through using filters spoons etc as @H said this is because the  HEP C virus is minute and can live outside the body in dried blood for upto 6 weeks  . I would definately get tested. There are several tests which can be done depending on the test will depend how long it takes to get the result.

I will get tested in addiction centre they have these like drug tests they drop blood from your finger and it shows if positive or negative. Can't believe what scum some addict are I helped them out with heroin like a week (sold for less than i bought) before asking to help me get some speed. I don't know what happened to me and why I let these addicts treat me like this.
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: PlutoPete on January 18, 2013, 11:13 pm
If you boiled the liquid you'll have killed anything nasty, but seriously get a new supplier man :)
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: Ben on January 20, 2013, 03:00 am
Just get tested for it - the whole story is just too vague exclude infection. The chances aren't terribly large at all, but if you managed to get a hep c infection its important to get proper treatment for that. While hep c is a disease that is very difficult to cure completely, with medication it is manageable and you could live out a normal lifespan.

Things like briefly boiling a substance before injection are NOT a foolproof way to kill the hep c virus. It does reduce the chance of transmission surely, but the concept that quickly boiling something will kill all viruses in it is just wrong.
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: HarmReduction on January 25, 2013, 10:23 am
If you boiled the liquid you'll have killed anything nasty, but seriously get a new supplier man :)
The temp needs to be 190 to kill off Hep C so just cooking up will not kill off Hep C
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: Meatgrinder on January 25, 2013, 02:31 pm
Any word on this?
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: grdr on January 25, 2013, 10:17 pm
Any word on this?

Hi, its nice to see alot of people cares. I'm not stupid I learned all possible ways of getting HEP C and HIV before even trying heroin. In fact I'm the one who gives advice for new people who have questions how to protect themselves but the irony is that that cotton looked like a chunk of powder or else i would have thrown out that garbage. I haven't been tested yet but I will definetely update on results here because I'm not one of those people who tends to leave you hanging (unless something happens to me). But to tell you the truth I basically don't care about it in fact it's funny I might even get a bonus - HI-fuckin-V. I just feel bad that I don't feel angry at the guy who sold me that bag. I'm nearly 21 years old and I'm a vegetable i don't have any feelings and don't care about life at all in fact I'm suicidal (no emo cutting wrists or something I'm serious) but I have mentality now that you have to live no matter how much pain you experience I just feel numb and like I'm dying inside. Even if I have HEP C I probably won't get treatment because I heard medications cost alot and you feel very sick from them. Well I'll update when I get tested.
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: Ben on January 26, 2013, 02:21 am
Go and get tested anyway, even if you don't care about what happens to you.

Like HIV, hep c is also a sexually transmitted disease, and you can carry it for a long time without having any symptoms yourself. This does not mean that you will not infect other however.

Also, its not a nice way to die really. It will impair your liver function to the point where you build up poisons in your system usually resulting in a rather slow and unpleasant death. While hiv may leave you vulnerable to other infections that can be fatal pretty quickly, hepatits doesn't show that bit of mercy.

Testing for it is not expensive at all, so at least do that. If you turn out to be infected you still have the choice between expensive treatment, letting in take its course, or ending your own life - being informed is paramount to make that choice in any case.
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: Oirudeboy73 on January 26, 2013, 11:49 pm
Get tested but time kills hep c. Also bleach does not kill hep c. I know this from contracting it after thinking it would, and having your own needles is a lot better than going through interferon treatment for 6 months.
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: valakki on January 27, 2013, 10:29 pm
Any word on this?
But to tell you the truth I basically don't care about it in fact it's funny I might even get a bonus - HI-fuckin-V. I just feel bad that I don't feel angry at the guy who sold me that bag. I'm nearly 21 years old and I'm a vegetable i don't have any feelings and don't care about life at all in fact I'm suicidal (no emo cutting wrists or something I'm serious) but I have mentality now that you have to live no matter how much pain you experience I just feel numb and like I'm dying inside. Even if I have HEP C I probably won't get treatment because I heard medications cost alot and you feel very sick from them. Well I'll update when I get tested.


get yourself together.
 i got my fingers crossed. i hope you got nothin.
and fuck that piece of shit dealer. buy from someone else. 
 and Maybe you could stop wrecking yourself with shitty  junk for a while....
you can live long with an h habit, no problems with that.. but you have to be clever. and  avoid depression. eat healthy. do some sports. 
whatnot, the usual
cheers and i hope you're not sick!
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: Meatgrinder on February 05, 2013, 01:14 pm
Any news on this ?
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: grdr on February 05, 2013, 03:41 pm
still didn't go kinda feel better living in denial than facing the possible truth lol
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: Dopamin on February 06, 2013, 11:09 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tja6_h4lT6A

gl
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: grdr on February 23, 2013, 01:46 pm
Update: I got tested yesterday for hiv and every hepatitis and tuberculosis and everything came up negative. Will have to recheck after 3 months.
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: valakki on February 23, 2013, 09:15 pm
good to hear!
Title: Re: Hepatitis C from cotton
Post by: grdr on February 26, 2013, 01:55 pm
probablt 90% of this forum is sad right now hahha