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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: novocaine on September 15, 2011, 02:09 am

Title: Yet another 'How to recieve goods idea/dumb idea'
Post by: novocaine on September 15, 2011, 02:09 am
I possibly could have posted this in one of the countless threads dealing with receiving goods but fuckit... I will start a new one ;D ;D ;D

Bit of an idea and sorry if its been mentioned.

If I were to receive a substantial order/item aka not personal use, Im not, but I just thought I would float this idea. If I did not have to sign for the goods I would use a fake name(hear me out) sent to my personal address or PO box.
I would then send myself a letter through the postal system using that fake name, something like... "Dear Sir/Madam, I was the previous tenant/owner/po box renter of your current residence/po box. I have diverted most of my mail to my current address but if anything filters through to your address could you please forward it to- <insert fake address here>. I have enclosed $20 that should cover any postal charges. Thank you very much. Regards <insert fake name that you used for your order>

Now if I was to receive said order I would sit it, unopened next to that letter that was sent to myself on a bench at home for as long as it took for paranoia to subside.

Now if the fuzz(LE) let you receive the goods and come knocking. Show them the letter.
The fuzz then go to said fake address that you already have scoped out. You chose that fake address because it had a "For Lease" sign out the front and it has or soon will be newly rented. You sent the same letter to that address at the same time you sent the one to yourself. However you use another fake address. You can do this as many times as you like
The fuzz goes on a wild goose chase.

Any holes in this idea?
Title: Re: Yet another 'How to recieve goods idea/dumb idea'
Post by: NevilleNobody on September 15, 2011, 05:05 am
I was about to point out what I thought were a bucket load of holes but the more I read this, the more it is becoming a reasonable solution. Of course, it's a bit dick on a cow if you are waiting on product for the weekend. Lemmie think about this whole idea a bit more..
Title: Re: Yet another 'How to recieve goods idea/dumb idea'
Post by: LexusMiles on September 15, 2011, 06:05 am
fake address that you already have scoped out. You chose that fake address because it had a "For Lease" sign out the front

It might be best to end the plan at that point.. you have scoped out neighborhood locations and found vacant lots with mail boxes. The happiest ending possible would be simply to send your loot there, assuming you can pattern the mailman. The whole police / show letter scenario is weak because there's no evidence that the torn envelope and written letter are actually a pair. Hardly enough to create reasonable doubt.
Title: Re: Yet another 'How to recieve goods idea/dumb idea'
Post by: novocaine on September 15, 2011, 06:33 am
What gave me the idea was I have had tenants in the past send me that exact type of letter to forward their mail. Its perfectly legit. God knows what contraband im forwarding on.

I am also not talking personal use. Im talking guns and kilos of coke for argument sake. Going to pick up a kilo of coke at some vacant house is risky imo. If it has been intercepted they will have 24hr surveillance on that drop. whats your excuse going to be?(im just asking myself thatW
Title: Re: Yet another 'How to recieve goods idea/dumb idea'
Post by: novocaine on September 15, 2011, 06:42 am
I was about to point out what I thought were a bucket load of holes but the more I read this, the more it is becoming a reasonable solution. Of course, it's a bit dick on a cow if you are waiting on product for the weekend. Lemmie think about this whole idea a bit more..

you dont even have to wait.

Worst case scenario and they come knocking with a warrant and found you open the package. Kinda defeats the process

or they come knocking and the package is elsewhere because you have already "forwarded" it on... **shows letter**

It kinda gives you an alibi even though the cops are more than likely going to think you are full of shit.
Title: Re: Yet another 'How to recieve goods idea/dumb idea'
Post by: novocaine on September 15, 2011, 06:53 am

The fuzz then go to said fake address that you already have scoped out. You chose that fake address because it had a "For Lease" sign out the front and it has or soon will be newly rented. You sent the same letter to that address at the same time you sent the one to yourself. However you use another fake address. You can do this as many times as you like
The fuzz goes on a wild goose chase.


When the fuzz go to said fake address the new tenant comes to the door and the cops  ask 'are you <insert fake name>??'.. They go 'nah but hang on I got a letter from that guy to forward his mail. I remember because there was $10 in with it' ***shows ID, shows letter*** or ***shows ID but has lost the letter*** and the fuzz then make the tenant number 1 suspect ;D
Title: Re: Yet another 'How to recieve goods idea/dumb idea'
Post by: LexusMiles on September 15, 2011, 07:10 am
I am also not talking personal use. Im talking guns and kilos of coke for argument sake.

In this case, you're going before a jury. Now imagine being a juror for a moment. The defendant bases his entire case on an anonymous letter, that could have been written himself, and he can produce no names of any previous tenants of said property-- a method talked about by members of the underground website SR. Is there reason to believe he is telling the truth? No way. If that's all he's got -- he's hung.
Title: Re: Yet another 'How to recieve goods idea/dumb idea'
Post by: novocaine on September 15, 2011, 08:08 am
I suppose you are right in a way. Although imo proving the existence of the previous tenants is mute.
Maybe this idea is unique but I doubt it. Its probably been done a million times before and so talking about it here, also has no bearing.

Like I say its an alibi, and like most bs alibis in a crime, is better than nothing.
Title: Re: Yet another 'How to recieve goods idea/dumb idea'
Post by: LexusMiles on September 15, 2011, 08:51 am
Better than nothing, yepz you bet  :o -- better than all possible alternatives, inconceivable   8)

Newspaper articles (about court cases/outcomes), success stories (of community members), and those backstreet shady as hell underground forums out there just may.. possibly.. have some tips and tricks worthy of consideration also.

With the vacant lot with a mailbox idea.. is it possible to do a ride-by on bicycle and scope out the level of surveillance. Or do LE generally have a way of remaining very well undetected?

Another thought. With all the knowledge available on Pavlovian/Classical and Operant conditioning (google it), basically anyone can train a new pup to be a great sniffer dog. Is there a way to train him to sniff out LE in the street? Maybe train him to detect gunpowder/bullets...

Crazy I know, but since its a thread about ideas.
Title: Re: Yet another 'How to recieve goods idea/dumb idea'
Post by: NevilleNobody on September 16, 2011, 01:09 am
Mmkay, most postal services have a product which allows you to pay a fee and have your mail forwarded to your new address should you move. LE know this and the first thing that would pop into their heads would be "why did the orig tenants not use this service instead of slipping some guy a twenty?"
If someone sent me a twenty and asked me to do this the first thing I would do is spend the 20 on beer and open up every single parcel that arrived for them. Curiosity would get be best of me and most other folks.