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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: The ILF on October 24, 2012, 07:13 pm
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Since there's already a huge thread on that cousin with the extra methyl group, but we haven't seen one for MDA -- someone please correct us if we're wrong -- The ILF would like to kick off a big and dandy celebration of the mandy, the yop, the sass, the jeffery, the hug, the mellow (are there any other names we should know it by?) Please, have at it!
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Waiting on a gram pack to arrive any day now, hopefully by tm. Will update with a nice report of a first timer, very excite!
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Many thanks to the ILF! Ordered 1g of MDA about 2 months ago. It was my first SR order and I'm so happy it went well or I may have been frightened off. Package was beautifully stealthy and arrived in a timely fashion. I didn't have a chance to try it until recently and I have 2 trip reports for ya:
First experience I went with some friends to see a band. I put 130mg under tongue.
+45m I got cold sweats and dry heaves and spent a good 15 minutes in a bathroom stall. Then I asked to be taken home.
+1.5h felt awesome sitting on the couch watching Family Guy. I sat in the same spot for 4-5 hours feeling awesome and zoning out. I really wanted to go back out but didn't want to chance it.
I guess I probably took too much so changed my dose for my...
Second experience. Wedding afterparty. 80mg finger dips. Two 20mg key bumps.
+45m rolling. Smoked a bowl hoping to ward off the dry heaves. It worked :)
+1.5h rolling hard, dancing, loving everyone.
+3h little bump worked well, party continues.
+5h home now, little bump. Sex was fantastic.
Taking it again NYE :) love you, ILF! xoxoxo
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I LOVE TO LOVE LOVE THE ILF!
;D ;D ;D
-onion-
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got my 1 gram in before NYE thanks ilf :) did me right
reagent tested with all 4 test and the one i was most keen about was the simons..and it was infact..MDA yumyum
its dec 31st around 11pm and ive got my friends all capsules with some awesomeness inside
3 capsules
all with 130mdma from dutchaanbod
and 80mda from you ilf
about 20 minutes later all my friends are coming up hard as fuck and it didnt hit me until around 40 minutes
eyes wiggling like mofos. body feels orgasmic. everyone is loving everyone
the ball drops and we are going nuts :D smoking hookah gnawing gum..it was awesome
the look on all my friends faces were ones of the purest joy ive ever seen them have
one of my friends..ill never forget this part. he was singing a song and he was having so much fun doing it too.
needless to say this night wasnt possible without you ILF and Dutch..thanks
you guys have given me and my friends the best roll we will ever have and they all agree and couldnt stop thanking me for all my efforts to spread the love
...until we do it again in a couple months...ill be back
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Ordered a few times from ILF and wow, eye wiggles like crazy. That MDA makes me go nuts, I love it.
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Working on my first sampling ever of this fine stuff. :)
.062 into my drink about 25 minutes ago. I am working on "threshold" effects at this point. Also with discontinuation of my SSRI over the last few weeks, this should prove to be interesting.
I feel good. My headspace is in a good place. I'm going to eat a cannabis cookie, and see where today leads me...
-onion-
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Not sure how long ago my last post was...but I had to come back and share my love...
I am in such a wonderful place....I found a link to some Tiesto somewhere here...I've been lost since then.
.062...with SSRI interaction. I am very lightweight. 125 lbs.
I'm in love with a new substance....and many other things on this planet I have failed to recognize....
-onion-
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Not sure how long ago my last post was...but I had to come back and share my love...
I am in such a wonderful place....I found a link to some Tiesto somewhere here...I've been lost since then.
.062...with SSRI interaction. I am very lightweight. 125 lbs.
I'm in love with a new substance....and many other things on this planet I have failed to recognize....
-onion-
Yay! Sounds likes you had a great trip!
I'm so happy to see listings back up... I love the ILF!!
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ILF = LOVE
-onion-
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You all are so adorable! Stop it, Onion, Trash Box, Sero, Brady, seriously! :)
We realized that we haven't written much about our own trip reports here. So, just for shits/giggles, this member of the ILF will recount a "trip" s/he took recently:
Okay, so, as you can imagine, members of the ILF have taken a lot of MDA. A lot. (Usually not at one time, but occasionally that too.) Mostly, I've taken a little tiny bit many times. So I'm here to say that if you have not tried the micro-dose, do so at once! It is a friend to you in everyday times of need. Most recently, I took about twenty milligrams the other night when a group of friends was supposed to go out to a bar. I didn't want to go to said bar; I don't even like bars generally, and I was tired from working all day! But people really wanted to go, and so I bit the bullet and drank my Jeffery-water down.
Boom, half hour later: I'm doing SO MUCH better. Part of the problem with a lot of everyday life is that energy levels are so volatile. In other words, it's not that anything is wrong, really; it's just that I've gotten tired and so I *feel* as if something, or everything, is wrong. (I personally believe this is a problem everywhere -- I once read an article about the "joy of running yourself ragged," which is how Washington is run. According to this person, if you weren't up at 4:30 playing tennis before your 6 am fundraising breakfast before your 8am news briefing, etc. etc., you were considered, by other Washington folk who were living like this, lazy. And Lord Jesus, we do hate laziness here in America!) But tiredness, in my experience, and from what I've seen in plenty of others, equals flipping out all the time over nothing! So either we get more sleep, or we find something to ease the body's natural reaction to being tired. And in the case of the other night, it was a pinch of MDA. I was happier, more talkative, less hating of life and wishing I were home sleeping, more accepting of other people ... and then I got the added bonus of more interesting thought patterns. I spent a good twenty minutes contemplating what it is that appeals to specific people differently about particular songs: why, for example, when you put an album on, everybody loves a different song off it. People-watching was very fun, especially at this bar, where the collection of crazy-dressed girls was getting out of hand.
So I guess what's notable about the so-called trip is that it was not insane, or mystical, or scary, or the best night of my life. It was just a regular old night, but better!
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after reading all of the reviews and positive comments from everybody i placed an order and am looking forward to sampling it the product.
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So I'm here to say that if you have not tried the micro-dose, do so at once!
ILF! I love you guys...you all have so much insight, advice, and compassion that you bring to the table. Until SR I had no idea what mda was...oddly enough...but after the key unlocking the mind...I simply cannot put into words my gratitude. I thank The ILF specifically, as if it weren't for your kindness, patience, and compassion, I would have never gotten to experience what I have, and will.
So how often can one hit the micro-dose?
@trashbox- Yes it was beautifully erotic and mind-expanding. I have never watched porn and listened to infected mushroom so intensely. It was a beautiful trip...
@speedracer- you won't regret it...The ILF will talk to you, if you wish...will help you...guide you...love you. There is no better group of people that stand as a single vendor. They rock!
@ everyone... I often see in the lsd threads many people taking astronomical *to me anyhow* amounts of LSD, and other substances. I can understand wanting to push the envelope or whatever they may want to call it, spiritually, or whatever. It just seems really hardcore, and almost a bad use of good substances. In fact, and this is not really related, but there are youtube videos out there with people opening their SR packages...literally exposing everything. It's attitudes and actions such as these that will lead others to their demise. It will also lead me to become stray from the road, and go back to the comforts of my underground.
*this comment is not directed towards anybody specific, I think it is more or less a fever induced rant from being sick with the flu all week*
LOVE YOU ILF!
-onion-
oh and a side note...which my lovely ILF's forget to mention, JEFFRY TASTE ICKY!! lol :o
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after reading all of the reviews and positive comments from everybody i placed an order and am looking forward to sampling it the product.
Me too speedracer!
@Post #1: Shall we call it Adam?
MDA is responsible, in one way or another, for my marriage :) It was the substance my wife and I were on the first time we had sex together. We're both not very open people sometimes, and as I'm sure most people here know, MDA/MDMA will definitely OPEN you up :P I <3 MDxx and MDA is pretty darn awesome. Someday I will have both at the same time as others have reported doing. It sounds so fricking awesome!
Happy Rolls everyone!
-Bromine
PS, I can't fricking WAIT to get that 1g from you ILF, I have aspirations of doing what you're doing. I want so badly to provide these tools of love and openness to people around the world. It's a crying, frustrating shame that society relentlessly wants to paint these substances in a bad light.
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So I'm here to say that if you have not tried the micro-dose, do so at once!
So how often can one hit the micro-dose?
Onion, we've missed you and hope your body has kicked that flu's ass! In response to your question about the regularity of really small doses, it's a tricky one, heh, as we're in pretty uncharted territory here with respect to research, and harm reduction precepts would error on the side of caution, but ....
It might be ok to take 10mg or so once a week, especially if you only did it for a month, didn't take any major rolling-balls doses, and then took a while off. You might even get away with a little bit every day for a bit, though at some point some tolerance will build and there will probably be down-regulation and rebound depression and other ugly things when you stop. It's hard to say because we don't know what "therapeutic" use of MDxx compounds looks like, while there is plenty of use of drugs like Adderall (um, amphetamine) on a daily basis even though there are certainly negative consequences to coming off it after prolonged periods.
We'd love to hear other opinions on the topic, as it's something that is rarely discussed. Also, conditions like depression can be cyclical in and of themselves, so if one finds oneself sliding into a deeper depression regardless of substance use, then what difference does rebound depression make? But yeah, our position would be that a little bit here and there is likely to have an overall positive impact on someone's life, as long as he listens to his body and mind and doesn't over-do it. That's based on personal experience. But we can't say for certain given everybody's personal circumstances and would say that more experimentation is needed. :)
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MDA is responsible, in one way or another, for my marriage :)
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PS, I can't fricking WAIT to get that 1g from you ILF, I have aspirations of doing what you're doing. I want so badly to provide these tools of love and openness to people around the world. It's a crying, frustrating shame that society relentlessly wants to paint these substances in a bad light.
Hi Bromine, that is what it's all about, and btw, congratulations on your and your wife's marriage! (The ILF are big fans of love going well, of course.) :)
You've hit the nail on the head regarding prohibition and such types of political and social controls, which we think do far more to destroy people's lives through punishment and stress than the worst kind of drugs ever could, and the removal of such benign compounds as MDxx from society is even sadder. Shulgin -- who I think also referred to MDMA as Adam -- mentions someone saying (before its scheduling) that they could never take it away, for it's like penicillin for the soul, and yet, they have.
But hey, until enough people can see the light, long live the underground! ;)
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Ordered mdma's cooler older brother - MDA from The ILF
Packaging 5/5 Incredible stealth and very professional
Weight 6/5 weighed 120 mg over, thanks!
Quality 6/5 Not expecting to roll that hard, fine powder - off white tan
Trip Report
My second time trying, took 130 mg's with a friend. He had the dry heaves - I had none. After heaving a few times he looked super ecstatic.
The initial waves came strong - desire to be with females increasing to 11. Very strong euphoria - music takes on a magical form, the bass makes the roll harder. I wish to be at a rave.
The roll lasts hours - the come down is a little sad - but the roll transforms to a clear headed trip similar to LSD. A dreamy mushroomy state takes over and I sleep/deleriously trip - don't remember much but I don't think I was sleeping.
SMOKE WEED Gently come down - when I return to baseline I feel like I get gifted back to me the charm I lost during the transfer from rolling to tripping,
Thanks ILF
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Just a quick review since I've been enjoying ILF's MDA for a while. Great stuff, always gets here fast and the high is un-fucking-believable.
Me and my girl, already a little high, decided to plug a little of this stuff. Since our minds were already a bit scrabbled, we sort of though the plugged dose wasn't kicking in even though we hadn't given it enough time to walk from our ass to our brains yet so we bumped a little more in some liquid. The next two hours went something like this:
Ohhhh....
Ahhhh....
Yummm...
Hummmm....
At some point we both mutually sobered up enough to form a coherent thought and I think this is the moment I fell most deeply in love with my girl since the first thing she did with her new found reason was look at me with a big smile and say "Bump?"
Clearly this was a night of excess and I advise against it but for all those that say "MDMA has lost it's magic." I just smile and say "Try some MDA."
200mg MDMA fiends can normally find a pretty happy roll on 100-120mg of MDA. The body load is a little harder but once you get over the hump it's like heaven.
Got another order in right now and going to try it with either some shrooms or acid next time to see how it goes. Will report back soon!
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Just a quick review since I've been enjoying ILF's MDA for a while. Great stuff, always gets here fast and the high is un-fucking-believable.
Me and my girl, already a little high, decided to plug a little of this stuff. Since our minds were already a bit scrabbled, we sort of though the plugged dose wasn't kicking in even though we hadn't given it enough time to walk from our ass to our brains yet so we bumped a little more in some liquid. The next two hours went something like this:
Ohhhh....
Ahhhh....
Yummm...
Hummmm....
At some point we both mutually sobered up enough to form a coherent thought and I think this is the moment I fell most deeply in love with my girl since the first thing she did with her new found reason was look at me with a big smile and say "Bump?"
Clearly this was a night of excess and I advise against it but for all those that say "MDMA has lost it's magic." I just smile and say "Try some MDA."
Beautiful!
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Just wanted to login to leave a quick review for ILF. Ordered ten grams back during the holidays, and the shipping time and stealth were both amazing. Communicative and very friendly, let me know when my order shipped by PM. The product is great and had rave reviews amongst everyone that tried it. My only complaint is that the interior bag inside the vacuum sealed one does kinda lend to a little loss of product on the sides. But no biggie, I licked it clean and got fuuuucked. The batch of MDA I got was more orange than tan and has a kinda weird solvent taste to it, and is harsh when insuffilated, again not a major issue. Overall ILF is great on all points, and their MDA is pretty damn amazing. Would not hesitate to order again.
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BUMP for the badass ILF. and their badass product.
I wanna hear more vibes on this guys!! The most I have taken in 60mg. Not much...and I rolled pretty well! Had some cool acid visuals, some slight eye wiggles, some amazing well...other stuff that I did to myself. lol :-X
I love ILF!
Let's get some love flowing guys!!! I wanna hear reviews on this amazing sassy stuff!
-onion-
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**I know ILF is gonna love seeing this, I was one of the first to review this product back in the fall months. The ILF crew apparently get a kick out of the review I left, so figured I would bring it back to this forum :P hahaha this ones for you guys ILF
left on 11/26/12--
Hey I just wanna give everyone a nice roll report for ILFs product, first of off ILF you are the man. I want to continue doing business with you for as long as we can.
- So I got 5 grams of shit lovely stuff and about ten on my friends 6 dudes and 4 chicks each took about 130-150 mg.
-When it first kicked in it was like a punch to the face of AMAZING ness, I started smoking a cig and the tracers I was getting was so awesome I had the best body high I cant even explain, we felt the music and the euphoria was something you cant get from anything else.
-About 2 hours in we were completely rolling face, our eyes were shaking back and forth i could barely read the texts messages on my phone but it was so sweet
-The colors came out of everything it was so fucking awesome , I walked into a bar that I also go to and the contrast and colors of everything was incredible.
-I talked to everyone and every conversation was awesome, I was spitting such awesome game with girls, I had such confidence in myself and was coming off as this really chill down to earth person and was so affectionate with women they literally loved it I went back to this sexy ass girls place and fucked her brains out. It was the best organism iv ever had it came from like my legs and out of dick like somesort of power blast from an Xmen character or some shit haha
-6-7 hours into it i was still rolling and the comedown was like something similar to a small hit of acid, which is awesome
-woke up the next day around 12:30 and felt awesome, my head was slightly poudning when I was trying to sleep but it was nothing a little xanax didnt fix. This stuff is so clean you can feel it when your on it and the next day.
- I seriously dont ever want to roll on anything else, I personally like it stuff better than MDMA,
-OVERALL Ilf you are making alot of people very happy in my area and after I get through the rest of this you can count on me buying a larger amt from you if that it possible. Peace and love to everyone, I highly reccommend everyone get this stuff, its the best X iv ever had and no one will be disappointed.
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aw, luckypunk, you cheeky bastard you! thanks for posting it here -- that's a classic for the Silk Road Anthology -- and we do love us some banging revelers! :)
Members of the ILF had a funny episode the other night. A while ago, one was cleaning out a container which had held the Jeffery, and she didn't want to lose any grains of the love. So when she could no longer get anything out of the jar, when there was only dust, one member, a cheeky bastard herself, decided to put cookie dough in the jar. This would have a small, if any, effect, she believed. Several batches of cookies were made this week, with perhaps at most threshold effects observed after eating them.
And then, the last batch came out of the oven, and another member of the ILF who had stopped by saw them and thought they looked delicious. He had already been gorging himself on chips and dip and decided it was time for dessert. He ate all four of them, though he thought to himself that there was an odd taste in some of the bites. A while later, he was feeling quite weird. Quite Weird. Like, almost, wait, am I rolling? WHAT'S GOING ON, ILF MEMBER!!!??? He had eaten the cookies up before she even realized he was into them and could tell him that there *might* be some extra love in them.
Well, the love was definitely present.
He was "stuck" rolling, and with a stomach full of heavy, greasy carbs. Lots of insights ensued -- especially about how Silk Road really is a community and how the feedback and forums play a major role in that by taking the place of gossip and hanging out.
Unfortunately, lots of queasiness and a number of trips to the bathroom also ensued, lol. But serves him right, as he's been trying to modify his diet and stay away from binging on so many carbs. Lesson learned. It's interesting, because serotonin levels are linked to the amount of food that is available to mammals, so stuffing yourself and then taking a serotonergic must leave the brain and body so confused, as if you'd overdosed yourself on food. It's that "I've eaten way too fucking much" feeling (that people sometimes get at, say, Thanksgiving) multiplied by an order of magnitude.
We have a feeling that E-edibles will never catch on in the way that cannabis ones have. Maybe if it was just ONE cookie with a full dose in it, but we're kinda scared to try now.
As for the errant baker, she too had dosed herself, but from actually licking the cookie dough (okay, yeah, food safety sorry) ... and it was way more than she expected. So then she was out doing errands high. Fun times, though, cuz, as blahblah1234 says, wherever you are on MDA is right where you're supposed to be.
ANYWAY. TL;DR: Don't put it in your cookie dough! Or in any other kind of food. No members of the ILF recommend this. At all.
Cheerio!
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BUMP for the badass ILF. and their badass product.
I wanna hear more vibes on this guys!! The most I have taken in 60mg. Not much...and I rolled pretty well! Had some cool acid visuals, some slight eye wiggles, some amazing well...other stuff that I did to myself. lol :-X
I love ILF!
Let's get some love flowing guys!!! I wanna hear reviews on this amazing sassy stuff!
-onion-
I chose your post Sir (ma'am?) Onion not to pick on you in any way but after reading all these stories tonight I got a contact high goin on! That and I've probably taken more MDA than any other human on the earth! I'll try not to ramble too much - slap the fuck out of me if I do! (he likes it! ;)
I have been on drugs of one kind or the other since Crystal Balls - hey! All hippy chicks had cool/weird names back then! - when this foot ball jock - shrug? Hey - I am ' was a country boy and didn't know how to do anything but drive cattle change the horses shoes when they went bad and stay out of reach of my old man's left hook! So .... there I am, with my fresh crew cut after foot ball practice - and this song comes on by a guy named Jimi .... something. Purple Haze. What the fuck was that? I didn't even know what marijuana was. For those few old fucks out here who still know how to party - you know what I'm saying - so I go to ... what was the name of that market/fare - place? Height Ashbury and a band named Jefferson Starship was playing on the green there for free - just set up and started jamming.
So I guess Ms. Crystal Balls wanted to teach this red necked, feets ball - jar head of a jock, country boy a thing or 2 and gave me a sugar cube - ??? - told me to just eat it - wouldn't hurt me at all. I didn't smoke, didn't even know about drugs I knew no one that even knew what marijuana is/was! ....... something was missing in my life though. I am huge and could squat a ton at 14 on my third set - so naturally I was scouted as early as my 5th grade class for WHAT I didn't understand. I'm a slow learner. But I finally got it when that sugar cube kicked in! My sophomore year so I had 2 more years of running over people on a football gird. I never liked that. I always felt bad when I hurt someone. So why did these guys scout a 5th grade shy kid? ... Some other time .... Purple Haze and a sugar cube with pure Pharmaceutical LSD 25 on it - still legal then BTW! Changed my life for EVER. And I mean for the better better BETTER!.
I'm doing it again ILF - wtf does that mean? .... I wanted to ask a couple of people here quick questions that came to mind as I read your posts. 1. Mr. or Ms. - Mrs? Onion! How do you know you only took 60mg - ??? . You have a scale that weighs that little? Impressive! And part deuce! 2. You mean I wasn't supposed to eat the entire gram? (scratching my head here). I was chatting at my new friend here of ILF ..... wtf does that man Holmes? Don't tell me if it will make my dick fall off or make me have babies - but other wise ..... go 'head! Thanx. ..... and ..... and ... never mind :o
I never took less than .5 gram when I took MDA and my friend - a chemist made it and lectured how is I gave any one any of this that I was NOT TO CUT IT! He ded now - luv you Fredster! - but if all dealers were like him this world would be a much better place! He would not even sell to me if he ever thought I cut his stuff! And for you guys and gals who're wondering if either I or my now dead com padre are passing judgement about dealers or their need to cut something when it happens thinks so - Get Bent! He was a perfectionist in the lab and explained to me in great detail, to think of drugs as little pieces of candy with legs - molecules - and that when you let them get dirt on their legs - cut on the molecules - it changes the high. That has a bad out come ALWAYS! Some worse than others. Don't you want to know what you're putting inside your temple happy people!
Cutting anything makes it ... NOT what it was to begin with. And people are so widely affected by everything - I hate coffee! - gp finger - shrug?
that you're potentially endangering a lot of people when you knowingly add anything to any drug made NOT under pharmacological settings - sterile - positive air flow systems - know what you're doing -bla bla bla..... those impurities can and most likely will affect each person in a different way - like all medicines do!.
So his meth was the best and his MDA - what the fuck is that Fredster? I tell you what - He gave me a teenier the first night I ran into him and did it all that night with one other person! _ me 90% of it and them 10. So when I see these small amounts - 60mg is a very small amount - right? Never weighed a hit of anything before - shrug - doing ounces of the stuff - maybe I was supposed to take less. - shrug? So yeh, I'm asking a serious questions as ILF is sending me a gram and it has been a LONG time for this dirty white boy to have done MDA! Like all other great pilgrimages - IT'S TIME!
I worked 3 days a week then so I could do MDA, dance and what's that other thing people do on MDA? ..... sigh - I'm so forgetful any more.... oh yeah! FUCK! Pardone me Francie! I have a real high tolerance to any drug! Duh! A gram! Talk about dancing and ..... what's that other thing you do on MDA? ..... well! You have stamina on a gram! Let me tell you ladies! I swear the whole city downtown Portland? Friday-Sunday - lots of bodies walking between bars and dance clubs - EVERYONE was on that stuff! You could here people ... '"MDA"' this and bla bla '"MDA"' that. Imagine an entire city on the weekends - high on excellent MDA! The city people were club owners and gay and they told the cops to leave weekend rollers alone! And they did too! AND it was cheap too!
OH! OH! Brain fart, BRAIN FART! I got a blind date one nigh with the Fredster and he knows I'm not gay so he brings a friend of his from anther city - who likes to dance figuring we'd all four of us hang on ADM, his school nerd buddy, She didn't even smoke pot or drink but really cute! (shivering - teachers are so hot!) and after she watching all of us choking down piles of this garbage - oh come on guys! The shit is poison! You think meth is good for you? I have been in a constant relationship with the 2 ladies of my life - Meth and MDA for .... a LONG time! And MDA is METH - on STEROIDS. If you take at books that shows them both - they structurally are cousin! No wonder I fell in love with this new to me anyway - then - MDA! MDA is changed at the final process or reduction of Meth Amphetamine point of making meth, that turns it instead to MDA.
So 5 days of constant dancing and .... what ever that other thing is that people do on MDA .... she was supposed to stay the weekend and ended up at my place for 5 days of dancing .... and .... damnit! Would some lady please whisper that answer into my ear? I know what it is but ... ... maybe I just need to be reminded... yeh, that's the ticket!
I didn't even really remember her because she lives a long way from there and I never though I'd see her again once she realized what she'd been doing - this 1st grade teacher - for 5 days! Solid! But I was going through things ... trying to organize and I find this old phone book and it has this name in it that I know that name but like .... what you do with MDA it's slipped my marbles. Then like in the cartoons - POOF! The light bulb goes on and I remember this 1 - 5 night stand with this non- drug user who had never even smoked a joint and ended up eating quite a bit of that nasty tasting substance with me so many years ago ...... 1980 I believe.
So I figured - she's not there ... that was a LONG time ago. But she answers and pleasantly asks who I wish to speak to. Well you darling. Thinking she's not going to remember this long haired hippy from so many years before or will be too embarrassed to talk to me when I finally remind her who I am ... I told her I was her friends name - and we dated one time many moons ago. That's when .. you know that sound big cats in heat make? Very primal and guttural, so sexually powerful and I almost lost my legs hearing that long growl/prrrrr that emitted to me over the phone for this person I thought would never even remember me.
Hey! Anyone who doesn't think that MDA isn't the best aphoristic/dace drug their is - besides all the other stuff just as important! - well then you didn't have real MDA THEN! I think you could give some to a nun and she'd be hot in your bed tonight! Anytime!
And really good METH is very erotic, touchy feeling - fuck until your baby walks bowlegged drug - AND a great hallucinogen. Some of the best visuals I've ever had were on good meth - but I have not seen good meth here on The Road except a very few times. MDA is ... or was always ON! Take it and like luckypunk11 said, I feel ya brother! You weren't braggin, it's what the shit does to ya. Brings out those primal mating urges in Spades! In both male and female! Never had any of that, '"Not tonight dear. I have a head ache" from any date I EVER shared my MDA with. Or my meth for that matter. Hmmmm?
That's right - I'm John Holmes on the stuff ..... that''s right - .... and ladies - whoa! The animal it turns that gals into .... well .... THANK YOU JESUS! There's got to be a damned good reason for it to be able to be made here - for it to be here at all! That's good 'nough fer me folks!
Lucky for y'all - my dogs have been bugging me for 2 days to take em to the beach and it's not raining, it's midnight and we're wearing sunglasses. So I'm off to see the wizzzzzzthard!
PUBLIC DISCLAIMER!
If it appeared I had something to say when I logged on tonight and if I didn't really say anything - shhhhhhhhhhhhh - I don't proof read and can barely type/read! ;) <- the most likely outcome of talking with me! ??? Then I'm sorry! And Fuck you! Fuck you, very much. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* I think I had a point when I started. I know I live in the Pointless Forest so I must ah had one. Ahhhhhh yes! The mind! A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE!
I love you all any way! :P :P :P :P 8)
Uncomfortable with that statement? .... :) get bent! Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeuyow! fffssstttt! fffssstttt!!!
oZ
I was chatting at my new friend here of ILF ..... wtf does that mean Holmes? Ill Legitimate Foster kids? Idk.... I mean .... don't tell me if it will make my dick fall off or make me have babies - but other wise ..... yeh, go 'head! Thanx.
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(I am sure this will end up on the next page- If your just tuning in, go back one page and read!)
FredLint, holy shit man...I laughed and laughed, your post was most entertaining. Thank you so much. I hope to have clarified some issues you had internally with things. lol if there is anymore I can do, pleas don't hesitate! :) InternationalLoveFederation I think!?
I don't know what you mean by what do you mean I'm doing it again. lol wrap your head around that one!
Ok ok, Point is. Well wait... first you guys..and your baked goods. Holy SHIT I would fit into that group so well. hahaha I laughed so hard, so very hard. Not only is the story funny but you can paint a picture that makes me feel like I was there when it happened.
Ok Point is ILF's MdA is AMAZING!
Weighed out *i know this will blow you away fred* 34 mg. ON THE SPOT of some nummy mda. I figured 60 lit me well, 15 didn't do much, so 30 was the new magical spot to test at. This was going to be a night of drinking and sex with the wife. :) I dropped my jeffery into some water and licked my scale tray off. NOM NOM! I shoot my Jeffery water 'cuz it's taste is not my liking. Anyhow...
About an hour in, I am feeling good, we start playing some ps3, enjoying every second of it, I am feeling overcome with joy. I know the substance is within me now, and the night has only begun...
I drank and drank...out drank the wife. bwahah! I win! ::) :o
I will just say the rest is xxx rated but I hit some magical spots, as did she, and we had an amazing love affair for several hours.
To be 100% truthful I likely drank too much...threw up that morning quite a bit...had to get back on track for Monday work, nothing a little R&R couldn't handle. Not a pleasant hangover, but wholly blamed on the alcohol. :o my bad!
So the ILF's Mda has made onion happy once again. Given light to new darkness, and given attention to unprovoked thought. Lots of life to live...
Much Love.
-onion-
edit- took a toot of 15mg . mmmm...
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FredLint, we wholeheartedly recommend weighing out doses! The vast majority of people would find a starting dose of 0.1g (100mg) to be a good roll and 0.2g (200mg) to be a mind-blowing psychedelic experience. We're not sure what the limits would be over a total session, but going through even half a gram over the course of a whole night and subsequent morning would be fucking a marathon for a big guy who's a hardcore user, and he'd need a fair amount of R&R afterward.
We're pretty surprised about your mentioning methamphetamine along with MDA. While meth might technically be considered a phenethylamine along with MDA, MDMA, mescaline, 2-CB, etc. ... its structure is so very different (for example, it possess no oxygen atoms) and its manner of synthesis so unlike the others that it produces very different effects. It's pyschostimulant vs. entactogenic, and it's not psychedelic. Another way of saying this is that it releases way, way more dopamine relative to serotonin and that it's not a 5-HT2A agonist. People hallucinating on it tend to do so because of how long they've been without sleep, not because of its effects per se.
But anyway, one thing is for sure: you've definitely had some wild experiences that make for some great stories. :)
~~much love~~
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FredLint, we wholeheartedly recommend weighing out doses! The vast majority of people would find a starting dose of 0.1g (100mg) to be a good roll and 0.2g (200mg) to be a mind-blowing psychedelic experience. We're not sure what the limits would be over a total session, but going through even half a gram over the course of a whole night and subsequent morning would be fucking a marathon for a big guy who's a hardcore user, and he'd need a fair amount of R&R afterward.
We're pretty surprised about your mentioning methamphetamine along with MDA. While meth might technically be considered a phenethylamine along with MDA, MDMA, mescaline, 2-CB, etc. ... its structure is so very different (for example, it possess no oxygen atoms) and its manner of synthesis so unlike the others that it produces very different effects. It's pyschostimulant vs. entactogenic, and it's not psychedelic. Another way of saying this is that it releases way, way more dopamine relative to serotonin and that it's not a 5-HT2A agonist. People hallucinating on it tend to do so because of how long they've been without sleep, not because of its effects per se.
But anyway, one thing is for sure: you've definitely had some wild experiences that make for some great stories. :)
~~much love~~
I can help you on the limits, I tend to push them. I really wish ILF was my neighbor... we'd be the best of friends.
So 250 lb guy here. Decent MDMA use. Got a gram of your fine MDA and thought to myself, I've never tried his stuff before, what if it's no good. It's my civic duty to insert some of this into myself before I let anyone else risk taking some unknown foreign substance purchased off the internet. So I decide to plug the stuff, laid out 100mg at 12:00 AM right as my girlfriend went to sleep in the other room. Figured if 100mg hit the sweet spot with me then her and I could share some a week or two later. I just wanted to test it you see. It was all very scientific...
I know plugging freaks some of you all out but short of IV'ing the stuff it's the single best way to get MDMA/MDA into your body. So here I am, press the plunger down and within minutes I am struck by this wave of euphoria that hits me like a freight train. It was like taking my first MDMA roll, adding my first kiss, blow job, sex, job, car and house all into one sensation.
As a scientist I realized that I was not dead. I rolled around on the bed for like an hour or so but I started to appreciate the fact that maybe it's only safe in 100mg doses... I mean sometimes my girl and I bump a roll and as a researcher, I should do another 100mg just to make sure there were no bad side effects.
Pushed the plunger and shot to the moon.
Visuals got a bit trippy on the first plug, extreme on the second. At some point the physical sensation of touch was so overpowering I ended up just rubbing lotion into my skin from that point on as I dealt with, what can only be described as, a physical and mental orgasm that just kept on rolling over me.
The thing about being a scientist who researches drugs like this to ensure the safety of those we love is that we love those people so fucking much we just want to research the hell out of it as best we can.
I went through a gram over the course of about 11 hours. I was not fucked up. I was FUCKED UP. At no point did I feel out of control. Made it to the bathroom to pee and for water. Changed the shows on the TV even though the images I was seeing didn't quite jive with anything I knew I should be seeing.
I want to make it clear that this was just outright stupid but I think a gram was my hard stopping point anyway. I was shaky by the end of it. For a while the visuals got a bit intense and I had to remind myself that I created this world by taking the drugs and I really was enjoying being in it. The physical high, body rushes and all lasted well into the next afternoon. The visuals into the night. My girlfriend had slept all night, gotten up, gone to work and was on home and I had spent 16 hours or so in fucking insane bliss.
Now, here is the down side. I had to pretend to have caught the flu to explain why I was feverish and tired for the next few days. Lost like 10 pounds just because I didn't have much of an appetite for a while after. I was far too embarrassed to admit that I had just plugged a gram of dope up my bum so the flu seemed the better way to go on that occasion and in truth several friend had it so I might have too.
100mg really is a great spot with this stuff. I treated it like MDMA that night and kept bumping to keep ahead of loosing the high but the high last MUCH longer than MDMA. From a rational human being perspective this stuff would be best used at 100mg with maybe a 50mg bump an hour and a half in to keep things running pretty good for 4 hours or so. More than that and you will stay high longer but the cost the next few days is a hell of a butchers bill to pay.
Me and my girl have since done this in both moderation and excess and have enjoyed the rolls quite a bit. With MDMA we touch and kiss and talk about how awesome we are. With MDA we tend to just be awesome. It's like a bubble of shared happiness.
I mentioned this on another thread and it's a little out of place here but just thought I would point out that 2CB seems to ride really nicely with MDA. I like 2CB at the end of an MDMA roll but think taking it with MDA is actually pretty damn fun too. For those who haven't tried both, the visuals are very similar. Digital, buzzy, colorful, and extra dimensional. So you can take the 100mg MDA and spike 15-20mg 2CB for a nice visual roll without getting too head fucked to really interact with it (i.e. when maxed visual dose of MDA you will not be moving, you'll be a puddle of flesh with a giant smile on your face).
Hope this helps some of you all out there. I figure I shouldn't let all my hard earned research only benefit me and my girl. I'll be hitting up ILF for another gram soon... I keep loosing the stuff or something. Not sure what the deal is.
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Holy shit. You are a machine. You went through a full G? I was on my ass after 150mg....
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Yeah please do not consider this an endorsement of taking a gram of MDA in a night, it is not. It's just that in any given population of people there are a small number of incredibly stupid ones who push things too far. As one of them, who has still retained the ability to type, I just figured I would document the experience rather then force other like minded people to needlessly recreate it.
I got 16 hours out of that gram but had I just done 100mg rolls with my girl we could have shared like 40 hours of collective bliss off the same amount. Doing it the way I did definitely provided some incredible highs at the cost of the hangover and significantly diminished returns. Would not do it again but it taught me a lot about the drug. It was funny because I could tell exactly how high I was by the visuals I was seeing as the tv played on in the background. They start with the actors eyes being a little off. A bit of a shift in their position as well as tracers on most everything and move up to, what I assume is the apex of the visual capabilities of this drug, fractaled reality. To put it in some context, the highest I got was a point I went up to a few times where the TV would become fractured into maybe 20 slices of slightly different parts of the picture all along a \ like pattern. So part of the scene would be repeated in the next \ along with a new part. I kept going up that high because I thought it odd how predictable it was that it would happen like that.
That highest high was totally non functional. If the house was on fire I would have just sat there and smiled. I had no ability to interact with normal reality at that point and honestly at times got a little nervous right at the peak.
Live and learn though, someone had to do it so there it is.
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DiamondSky,
That was a really eloquent, informational, and entertaining read -- thank you so much for writing it! So much good and detailed info in one place, man!!! +1
Now, we can definitely understand people's serious concerns about IV use, especially considering the need for really pure crystal (and let's not even talk about how bad an idea slamming pills is); the importance of measuring and dissolving a small, accurate dose; and the extreme shift in experience character and intensity.
But, really, what's the problem with plugging? Gotta be a cultural thing, this prejudice against it. We mean, what's not to like about greater bio-availability and a longer peak?
One question for you ... is the enema way always better ... or could you get good results by just putting a gelcap in there?
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DiamondSky,
That was a really eloquent, informational, and entertaining read -- thank you so much for writing it! So much good and detailed info in one place, man!!! +1
Now, we can definitely understand people's serious concerns about IV use, especially considering the need for really pure crystal (and let's not even talk about how bad an idea slamming pills is); the importance of measuring and dissolving a small, accurate dose; and the extreme shift in experience character and intensity.
But, really, what's the problem with plugging? Gotta be a cultural thing, this prejudice against it. We mean, what's not to like about greater bio-availability and a longer peak?
One question for you ... is the enema way always better ... or could you get good results by just putting a gelcap in there?
Yeah I like to keep things entertaining. I sort of knew after the first plug that the bag and I were not going to last long together. I love MDMA for the open loving connected feelings it has but MDA wins out, for me at least, on the just makes you feel freaking amazing scale.
Plugging just gets a bad rap because guys mostly are terrified that if they put something up their bum they will become or be seen as being gay. I've been plugging plugging since I first tried it and honestly the only people who have anything bad to say about it are the ones who don't do it or the few that don't take a few minutes to find out how to do it right. It's totally a guy thing though, takes about 5 minutes to talk a girl into it, while some guys will just never give it a go. Personally I just like getting high and plugging gets me higher for less money so there it is.
The issue with the gel-cap is sort of two fold. There's no digestive process going on when you bypass the stomach so the pills take a random amount of time to break down. When you get through the gel you still have to break down the crystal for it to be absorbed thus delaying the onset and not getting it all in at once if that makes sense. With the liquid dilution I am sober and then peaking in pretty short order. The other issue is that liquid is quickly absorbed into the blood vessels carrying in the MDA with it (assuming you dissolved it properly first) in no time. With a pill up there, you're sphincter thinks you need to poop and more often then not will get everything moving to make that an urgent requirement. While liquid can have a similar effect, it is for some reason much less compelling because the liquid is dispersed while the pill feels like a solid object.
As far as the overall high goes though, if you had an unlimited amount of MDA you can get just as high off swallowing it as plugging it. My random tests say 100mg plugged gets me about as high as 130-150mg swallowed. I've never been able to swallow and have it hit me as hard as plugging though. You get to the same place but it's like taking a train vs. an airplane to get there.
Hope this helps. I always think it's funny that MDA gets so glossed over by people looking for that magic they used to get. Near as I can tell that old MDMA magic was just the fact that there was a lot more MDA in the pills back then. For being social and bonding with folks I would still take the MDMA but for just feeling amazing and rolling around in bed with your girl or a night out with crazy visuals MDA is awesome.
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Hey guys I made a thread on this, http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=130561.0
but here is what it says:
Hey all.
I am poking around again as I have in the past about stepping into vending, rather re-selling, the beautiful products offered by the vendors we love and trust. I was considering acid as a resale opportunity a few months back, but have decided the price-point could not be set accordingly for this market, nor did I want to battle with the loss of potency issue with storage techniques.
MDA- is my new focus. Lovely, lovely, lovely stuff...I am currently working with a couple vendors in buying bulk products, two of which you all know so well. 3Jane and The ILF. Now, I cannot speak on behalf of 3Jane's MDA, but many have said it's wondrous, and I can in fact speak for the ILF and theirs and it's amazing! Now prices are different between the two vendors, and until I sample, I am not sure which route I will take.
Since nobody has listings for less than 500mg, or say less than 1gram doses I was going to offer "single" doses, which would allow people to try the product before buying more, or to just try something once or twice. Personally 60mg will get my rocks off, so 250 would give me much joy over a long period of time. YMMV of course.
So let's say grams are 75$ currently. I could try to offer a a price point of 25-50 for the 125-250 sized doses. Maybe even up to 500mg doses. Not sure yet. Depends on price and demand obviously.
So people.. IS THERE DEMAND FOR SMALL QTYS OF LOVELY MDA!?!??!
Holla at an onion-
-onion-
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... on the just makes you feel freaking amazing scale.
Hope this helps. I always think it's funny that MDA gets so glossed over by people looking for that magic they used to get. Near as I can tell that old MDMA magic was just the fact that there was a lot more MDA in the pills back then. For being social and bonding with folks I would still take the MDMA but for just feeling amazing and rolling around in bed with your girl or a night out with crazy visuals MDA is awesome.
Word! Best E I ever had I thought had mescaline in in, turns out, MDA! ha!
I love the loved up feeling I get from mda. I wanna fuck my wife 'til the break of dawn! : :o
-onion-
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Yeh, big guy - 6'4'', 270 lbs. Big hands, big feet, big gggggg everything! (cept for the obvious 'peanut' I have to drive this freegin hulk!) I never even thought about taking so much! It's just my way I guess. Hit the floor many times but I have never come close to dieing from any of the over sized dose's of meth or MDA or .... what ever!
OH! Do NOT IV MDA. Okay, that's just me, but what I found was instantaneous 'horns' and need to 'boogie' but with that came ..... you know how your visuals come on with the other delightful things that come from just eating MDA? Weeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllll - imagine those first .... 10? 15? - 30 minutes of coming on to it - in 5 to 10 seconds!
Okay, that's my preaching - not meaning to contradict anyone else's method to madness! Hey, I did it or I couldn't have even said this. I love MDA, and it's obvious by my babbling - thanks onionologist, glad you enjoyed it! - here about eating the whole gram. I'm big but not to smart sometimes. So listen up people when they speak of smaller doses to start! The magical thing about MDA, you can bring a match box full of capsules of the stuff and dose your self until the things you are seeing .... heh heh heh .... ;) you're really seeing! I just like to barf I think ..... scratchin me stupid ole brain pan. So listen up to what they say about dose's
Let me see, I don't know the proper way to say this but Re-known Meth/MDA/LSD/MDMA cook and artist Xxxxx X. bla said you know not what you speak. I have all his books and still stay in touch personally with a fellow single parent - Shrug? I don't know shit about chemistry, but the end in forming any compound is influenced not just by reductions and or changes, but if you use .... even a chemical molecule - Meth and MDA look like the same until the very last leg of forming meth. Then it is changed - very few changes - and becomes pure MDA.
I love ya ILF and hope we can talk about that again. For you - AND for me! My friend and writer is not always lucid so despite his obvious knowledge of chemistry and the making of what we ALL seem to love - I keep that door open!
Last thing - a well used vendor of meth sold me a 1/4 ounce so I got a good chance to ... feel it. It was so much like MDA without huge hallucinations to blind me - but they were still here - all around me and I actually hurt myself dancing at the computer - lots of good MDA visuals and rave music so ..... I wish I could show you and you might consider the possible error of your statement. Or can show me AND my buddy's errors of our thought process!
Love you ILF! Till the wheels fall off!
oZ - Purveyor of Sexual Deviantations in all things Ravey!
FredLint, we wholeheartedly recommend weighing out doses! The vast majority of people would find a starting dose of 0.1g (100mg) to be a good roll and 0.2g (200mg) to be a mind-blowing psychedelic experience. We're not sure what the limits would be over a total session, but going through even half a gram over the course of a whole night and subsequent morning would be fucking a marathon for a big guy who's a hardcore user, and he'd need a fair amount of R&R afterward.
We're pretty surprised about your mentioning methamphetamine along with MDA. While meth might technically be considered a phenethylamine along with MDA, MDMA, mescaline, 2-CB, etc. ... its structure is so very different (for example, it possess no oxygen atoms) and its manner of synthesis so unlike the others that it produces very different effects. It's pyschostimulant vs. entactogenic, and it's not psychedelic. Another way of saying this is that it releases way, way more dopamine relative to serotonin and that it's not a 5-HT2A agonist. People hallucinating on it tend to do so because of how long they've been without sleep, not because of its effects per se.
But anyway, one thing is for sure: you've definitely had some wild experiences that make for some great stories. :)
~~much love~~
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I love the loved up feeling I get from mda. I wanna fuck my wife 'til the break of dawn! : :o
-onion-
Does your WIFE know about this!
;)
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It's not practical for me to write the usual sort of trip report. The ILF's product is taking me rapidly through what appears to be a long journey of self-knowledge and soul healing. Although I'm told that I'm a talented writer, I'm too slow and painstaking a writer to chronicle the journey with the dense detail of most trip reports. I know that if I tried, I wouldn't find time to do anything but write. Forgive my meticulous craftsmanship, which deprives you of so much useful information.
One of my most life-changing MDA experiences was seeing the new movie Oz the Great and Powerful for the first time. Essentially a prequel to The Wizard of Oz, it tells the story of Oscar Diggs (James Franco), a dodgy carnival magician sent by tornado from rural Kansas to the land of Oz, where he struggles to establish himself as the great Wizard. With help from MDA, this movie touched my soul by kindling my erotic imagination. Yes, for a PG-rated Disney film, it's remarkably sexy. Despite his hard luck and his many flaws of character, Oz suddenly finds himself romancing three beautiful witches. Aww yeah! Yet this is not only escapist fantasy but also a moralistic tale of redemption. To avoid spoilers, let's just say that his issues with women have fateful consequences that force him to find his better nature in a hurry. (Seriously, folks, no spoilers in subsequent posts, please!)
With my long history of spitefully denying my own sexual nature for reasons of interpersonal politics, I probably needed to be enchanted—with chemical assistance—by this moderately sexualized fairy tale. At thirteen, when puberty came, I found myself cornered by a domineering father, a rigid government school system, and vicious bullies in that system. In my helplessness and bitterness, I was compelled to perpetrate an eccentric scam: to pretend that I didn't like girls, acting as if puberty happened only to other people. I played my passive-aggressive game of deceit with such dedication that it warped me. At forty, I find that I have to make some effort to keep eros from falling down the memory hole, or else I lapse into fantasies of endless war against my father—who has been dead for fifteen years! On the day I write these words, I'm still figuring out how to avoid the agony of the almost-but-not-quite hallucinations of endless fights with that tyrant, Mr. Families-Are-Not-Democracies.
G. K. Chesterton wrote of the spiritual wisdom to be found in fairy tales: "These tales say that apples were golden only to refresh the forgotten moment when we found that they were green. They make rivers run with wine only to make us remember, for one wild moment, that they run with water." In a similar fashion, may MDA and Oz the Great and Powerful keep me mindful of the value of sexual love. Whenever I forget its value, which I do constantly, I sink into my personal hell.
(I have placed a duplicate post on the ILF's other trip report thread:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=54186.msg985051#msg985051 )
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Just ordered 1.0g from MarijuanaIsMyMuse. Will update when tested but a bit worried because he has gotten bad reviews for his MDMA lately. Hopefully that isn't saying much about his MDA.
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Just ordered 1.0g from MarijuanaIsMyMuse. Will update when tested but a bit worried because he has gotten bad reviews for his MDMA lately. Hopefully that isn't saying much about his MDA.
Let us know how this goes...I don't like the vibe I get from that dudes page for some reason...
Something has always told me to stay away...
-onion-
ILF WHERE ARE YOUUUUUU
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Just ordered a gram of MDA yesterday. I'm really looking forward to 'testing' it. I like MDMA, and I understand MDA is like stronger (more psychedelics and lasts longer) but not as much 'empathy'. Shulgin (peace be upon him) said it's more 'stoning'.
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offering 100mg brown sand MDA crystal samples at 8usd each.
will have a vendor account up later this month.
only 5 samples available PM for details
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