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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: samuelkane on September 02, 2012, 08:52 pm

Title: Thinking about trying H
Post by: samuelkane on September 02, 2012, 08:52 pm
Are there other users here that tried it once or only a few times? Or regs with advice or warnings
I'm worried about just how addictive this stuff will be, and what a typical first time use will be like. fe, Ive heard things like trowing up excessively the first time you snort..
I'm interested in hearing about ingestion methods, smoking vs snorting (i plan to try both). I dont IV anything, gota draw the line somewhere right. => Howto, tips, dosage, utilities
I'm also interested in the difference between NR3, NR4 and Black Tar Heroin, what would you do if you only get one try?
Any info on preferred sellers is also welcomed.

grtz,

sam
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: BobSacamano1 on September 02, 2012, 09:34 pm
Do you have any Opiate expereince? I would hope so. I have only done H once, it was one line when I ended up in a weird situation, not planned at all. But I have wanted to try it out for real as well, but since I can't manage to get any coins on this site who knows if I will. So I don't really have the answers, but I have had 3 shoulder surgeries and have tried pretty much every pharmaceutical opioid in existence. I would be interested in what your background experience is, and how much different more experienced users find H than Pharms. I concquer with you drawing the line at not shooting, I have a feeling that avoiding addiction may be close to impossible once you start IVing, but is definitely possible if you avoid that ROA.
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: samuelkane on September 02, 2012, 10:23 pm
apart from codeine PK's when i broke my ancle i have got 0 opium experience, i'm real curious what an opium high is like and wanna try it once. Its on my bucket list lol ;-)
I have had extensive Weed, MDMA and amphetamine experience and some cocaine (20 ish times).
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: BobSacamano1 on September 02, 2012, 10:32 pm
Mmkay, well codeine is very weak, have you considered trying something else before H, to get a feel for Opiates before you dive into the deep end? Oxycodone has a near 90% bioavalibility when taken orally, so if you are worried about ROA being a possible route to addiction (which is completely valid) you could just try buying some percs and popping them, about 10-15 mg to start.  That is a very enjoyable euphoric buzz that is both energizing and relaxing simultaneously, and although you can certainly become addicted by popping pills, the risks are less pronounced across the board.  So that would be my 'harm reduction' suggestion, as an alternative to going straight to H simply out of curiosity.
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: johnmtl on September 02, 2012, 10:35 pm
Funny story, I tried H once.. sniffed about a quarter point.. i was in a court ordered drug rehab (get out of jail free card) and the only thing i was able to get my hands on was H

this was 10 years ago btw actually it was Sep 9 2001 :( 

 I remember asking the guy who gave it to me if he was crazy because I was used to sniffing fat lines of coke and now here is the tiny little bump... i thought he was just being stingy.. but he was just looking out for me... that little 1/4 point had me so fiucked up.. it was by far the best trip of my life.. no throwing up no headaches no withdraw.. just one sick trip then some sleep and a new day... when i woke up I knew if I ever tried it again i'd be hooked and to this day I have not... that trip still remains the best trip i ever had!!


just so you know.. these days i only smoke weed and hash and have left the pills and lines in my past!!

I have no clue about H besides for my one experence i told you about


if you do decide to try it.. make sure you set that line in your head between trying something once and becoming an addict.. trust me H 2 or 3 times and ur a goner ..

good luck
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: BobSacamano1 on September 03, 2012, 12:07 am
By the way,, you have no opiate tolerance which means a couple percs would probably have you high as shit as well as together not noddin' off on dope. Don't listen to that ^ dude, don't do it especially since you are opiate naaive.
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: Gary Oak on September 03, 2012, 01:01 am
Do it, it's probably the greatest feeling in the world.

And if you become addicted, there's always rehab and subxone.

My friend used to have a large habit, been clean for a while now but he sill use from time to time with no problem. It's all about self control. The AA/NA model is IMO bullshit, saying that if you touch it once you're as good as dead. Not trying to bash that program, it works for many and helped my friend, but I think it's largely due to the networking. It's good to know you are not the only one getting clean.

So yes - you should. Just be careful. Don't do it more then 3 days in a row or you'll get dope sick, and it's not a fun feeling at all.

Also I like powder much more then tar.

Fuck off man, this is the Drug Safety board and you're telling a person with absolutely no real opiate experience to jump straight to heroin. You're fucked in the head. >:(
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: johnmtl on September 03, 2012, 01:18 am
Do it, it's probably the greatest feeling in the world.

And if you become addicted, there's always rehab and subxone.

My friend used to have a large habit, been clean for a while now but he sill use from time to time with no problem. It's all about self control. The AA/NA model is IMO bullshit, saying that if you touch it once you're as good as dead. Not trying to bash that program, it works for many and helped my friend, but I think it's largely due to the networking. It's good to know you are not the only one getting clean.

So yes - you should. Just be careful. Don't do it more then 3 days in a row or you'll get dope sick, and it's not a fun feeling at all.

Also I like powder much more then tar.

Fuck off man, this is the Drug Safety board and you're telling a person with absolutely no real opiate experience to jump straight to heroin. You're fucked in the head. >:(


plus 2 karma for Gary if i could!
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: Ben on September 03, 2012, 01:55 am
I'd be inclined to suggest "don't do it" because its about the best feeling in the world.

I''ve had morphine in hospital after surgery, and after about 20 mg of it it really did not mind just having some plates attached to a broken bone with screws that look like the kind you put plasterboard on plywood with.

Trying something like heroin in like joining a gym - getting out of it after even a couple of exercises will prove very difficult and probably costly.
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: Raoul Duke on September 03, 2012, 10:30 am
Read this thread dude


http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=23080.0

was just about to suggest that. i'm not saying don't try it, because that would be completely hypocritical, just be fucking careful you don't slip into this pattern if you do
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: crazydancer on September 03, 2012, 01:14 pm
H (and also Ket) was the difference between the line I drew and the line drawn by one of my good friend a few years ago.
We still have a difference today, but not the same:
I'm still there on Earth, that's not his case...

Just to precise: he died due to cut agents in H, not due to H OD.
Anyway, I respect everyone's opinion on the subject (even my friend's decision, it was his life, he was like that, with all his excesses), just ponder it a long time before taking your decision.
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: samuelkane on September 03, 2012, 04:40 pm
Tnx for all replies guys.
Reading rauls story was very helpfull. Although still intregued about an opium high, i'm not so eager to just go and buy some H now. Maybe i'll try some oxy instead, something i can buy as a 1 time dose .
I never realised 250mg would last you so long, knowing me thats not a good idea :-)
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: BobSacamano1 on September 03, 2012, 05:28 pm


Fuck off man, this is the Drug Safety board and you're telling a person with absolutely no real opiate experience to jump straight to heroin. You're fucked in the head. >:(
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Thank you...
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: BobSacamano1 on September 03, 2012, 05:44 pm
Yeah I am reading Roal Duke's other thread, and am becoming more glad that I have never tried H every sentence I read. Opiates are so insidious, and H has gotta be the epitome of that.

A great little quote I heard on another drug forum was... 

"When you can stop, you don't want to, and when you want to stop, you can't."

Not an exact quote but that was the jist of it. Some true ass shit when it comes to opiates. 
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: BobSacamano1 on September 03, 2012, 05:53 pm
Another aspect of H that seems really shitty to me, speaking of Roaul Duke's thread, you get sick after doing a bit too much, the next day? I'm not talking withdrawal, I'm talking about like an H hangover? That fucking sucks, I hate hangovers and one of the reasons I love oxys and hydros so much is that I can take like 3-4 doses of oxy in a day (aka be high literally the entire day) usually after surgery, and what happens is my head eventually hits the pillow, I sleep great,  and I wake up the next morning feeling absolutely wonderful. Literally no hangover to speak of, ever. I struggle enough with Alcohol hangovers, which really suck, and thats why I appreciate opiates (the ones that I do) because of the freedom from the hangover bullshit.  Thats why you should just pop oxys and hydros, and try to keep your individual dose under 30mg, ideally under 20mg, and you be good. Fuck H!
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: Ben on September 04, 2012, 12:51 am
Yeah I am reading Roal Duke's other thread, and am becoming more glad that I have never tried H every sentence I read. Opiates are so insidious, and H has gotta be the epitome of that.

A great little quote I heard on another drug forum was... 

"When you can stop, you don't want to, and when you want to stop, you can't."

Not an exact quote but that was the jist of it. Some true ass shit when it comes to opiates.

Not all opiates are equal, but (injected) heroin certainly is one that is easy to get addicted to and very hard quit. If you want to try opiates, i'd certainly recommend against heroin. Perhaps smoking some dried poppy sap (as) in an opium den will give you a nice experience, without turning you into a junky right away. Heroin seems to be a drug designed to promote addiction with its rapid set on and sharp decline in effect.
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: BobSacamano1 on September 04, 2012, 03:23 am
Yeah I am reading Roal Duke's other thread, and am becoming more glad that I have never tried H every sentence I read. Opiates are so insidious, and H has gotta be the epitome of that.

A great little quote I heard on another drug forum was... 

"When you can stop, you don't want to, and when you want to stop, you can't."

Not an exact quote but that was the jist of it. Some true ass shit when it comes to opiates.

Not all opiates are equal, but (injected) heroin certainly is one that is easy to get addicted to and very hard quit. If you want to try opiates, i'd certainly recommend against heroin. Perhaps smoking some dried poppy sap (as) in an opium den will give you a nice experience, without turning you into a junky right away. Heroin seems to be a drug designed to promote addiction with its rapid set on and sharp decline in effect.

Yeah, I know. You talking to me? I've tried every opiate, including IV of hydromorphone, morphine, and fentanyl. (all in the hospital). But I assume you were directing your advice at the thread starter, and yeah from what I gather H is the opiate with the least margin for error (if that makes sense). Its also about habits. Hospital IV for super severe pain is one thing, when you cop a bag of smack just to get high its an entirely new habit; not a good one.
Title: Re: Thinking about trying H
Post by: lookinurmind on September 04, 2012, 03:45 am
I got injected with fentanyl at the hospital before. I remember feeling really good for like 2 seconds then passing out. lol