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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Dontchargeme on November 10, 2012, 06:35 am

Title: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: Dontchargeme on November 10, 2012, 06:35 am
Hello All,

Lets say SR did get busted by LE (and no I am not paranoid this is a hypothetical)

Is there any obvious plan B for us all?

In the event the worst happened to DPR how can a simpleton like me keep up to date on any new markets popping up to take SR's place?

Surely there has to be a blog or website somewhere on the clearweb that keeps abreast on the happenings on the darkweb??

Look forward to comments....

Cheers.
Dontchargeme
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: Mangazi on November 10, 2012, 06:41 am
Start up a new site called the Milk Road?
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: maxhavelaar on November 10, 2012, 06:46 am
Well i don't want to tell tales out of school here, but it starts with a B too...
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: HassleHoff on November 10, 2012, 06:46 am
Plan B is I go back to drinking.  ;)
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: dingowombat on November 10, 2012, 07:05 am
Not going to name names of competitors but there are already sites out there that are pretty much identical to silk road. However they've all paled in traffic to SR which has always been the best imo.

But there are alternatives and a little bit of creative googling or going through the tor wiki will get you there.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: maxhavelaar on November 10, 2012, 07:17 am
In that paper on the silk road the name has eluded me, two other sites were mentioned. One of them has shut down, the other one is still operating, albeit not very effective, that is probably changing as we speak, although i like to be part of this community and loyalty etc. i ain't gonna bet the ranch on one marketplace.

The point is they will have to make it work or someone else will. And if this is still going on tuesday, the shit is going to hit the fan, but i have faith, i know how fast this BTC trading world can go... when money is involved people get really motivated and can move the whole kit and kaboodle somewhere else... listings and all, just the feedback stays behind. Tor is still there, Bitcoin is still there, and i hope to god that we'll (as SR) still be there.
I am not too certain though, at the moment.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: DocOck on November 10, 2012, 07:17 am
Well i don't want to tell tales out of school here, but it starts with a B too...

I dont want to be insensitive to fellow travelers who may be unaware of the options out there, but perhaps there is value in keeping this info out of the public eye for awhile, at least until we have some idea whats going on...just think it would suck if the helpful info one spreads leads to the exact same situ at the next site down the line. i for one think the natural filtration that occurs when one has to actually have a few brain cells in order to find an alternative is a good thing for those of us that do...if that makes any sense.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: stateless on November 10, 2012, 10:02 am
If there is any doubt, if SR goes down, there will be a thousand more like it!

No doubt!

Do you all good to eyeball this open source project that is a silk road branch project...
https://github.com/Bit-Wasp/BitWasp

If I were everyone on this site right now, I would get working on a project like that stat.

Download the files.  Comb through them very CAREFULLY..  Make sure it's not some virus.

But after you've combed through it and have ruled out any moderate or major security risks, start working on deploying such a market on your own.

See this site for a list of other market places, incase you are unaware of the alternatives that are already out there.

http://pastebin.com/5FdAZBWS

This is a host that will host your .onion based site

http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/

These are our alternatives.  Yes if SR went down, some of these alternatives that people switched to will be CIA run.  No doubt.

So be careful of where you drop information.  Maybe use IRC servers and encrypt your bits as an alternative in the mean time, and maybe into the future.

But the escrow service and the popularity of that site would be a terrible loss.

So lets hope for the best, and prepare for the worst.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: kitkat82 on November 10, 2012, 10:18 am
Plan B is I go to rehab or use an online pharmacy.

Rehab would look better if LE tries to prosecute any buyers.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: odd on November 10, 2012, 10:29 am
holy cow guy's SR hasn't been down for a full 24 hours and you guy's are looking for a new home already???  this shit happens.  sites go down....they get denial of service attacks......they get over crowded this shit happens .  if you start a new one you'll deal with the same shit there eventually.  i was on the market place on november 9th from 10:00 am-1:00 pm so be patient people.  whatever's wrong will probably get fixed.  and if this is the end of the road i'm sure invites will start getting passed around.  that's been my experience with markets/forums like these in the past.  be patient....breathe.......
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: stateless on November 10, 2012, 10:33 am
^ tru dat!
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: zeitgeist on November 10, 2012, 04:14 pm
Well, there's always BMR.

If Silk Road goes down, another will just pop up.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: kitkat82 on November 10, 2012, 04:16 pm
Ok, with the BMR...are there any legit opiate vendors?  I am looking at the site and it is extremely confusing.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: UK Pharma on November 10, 2012, 04:31 pm
The BMR site is very unreliable & full of scammers from what I hear. Also, the trust in Bitcoins both from a vendor/buyer point of view would be lost not to mention the BTC price plunge. I think it'll take at least a year for the market to overcome this & even then many vendors would not risk buying so much new stock in bulk (many would never return to this type of business - they'd be bust financially) thus prices overall would be way up. It would not be a case of a vacuum being filled from a 'pop up' site - this is all the stuff of nightmares & I don't think/feel it'll happen - SR will be back soon.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: technofarm on November 10, 2012, 04:35 pm
i really hope this website is not busted.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: TheGoodSon on November 10, 2012, 04:36 pm
BMR is not full of scammers, I do business there too. It just doesn't have the traffic that SR gets, so they don't put much effort. I guarantee if they got 1/10th the traffic SR gets, things would change there quickly.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: hogman on November 10, 2012, 04:43 pm
the only alternative I know of is blackmarket reloaded but I've never bought from th maybe someone else has
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: UK Pharma on November 10, 2012, 04:47 pm
Maybe but it does have a bad 'rep' for scammers. Plus it sells firearms. Not good & bad for its staying power. How long do you think it'll last?  Do you really think it'll slip in where SR left off. I don't think vendors would waste their time. Some will use it obviously out of need & if it keeps online then maybe in a year SR will be a memory but so many vendors would have been stung that I don't think they'll bother. Time will tell.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: Anonymou5 on November 10, 2012, 04:48 pm
Well I think there is a fully backup of SR system,right?
If really aomething happen, they can just reload same system but different url,right?

Im now registred on BMR, lets see.
But i see such vendors selling coke like SUPERTRIPS, he is not longer active here, but on BMR he is active...
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: TheGoodSon on November 10, 2012, 04:50 pm
Maybe but it does have a bad 'rep' for scammers. Plus it sells firearms. Not good & bad for its staying power. How long do you think it'll last?  Do you really think it'll slip in where SR left off. I don't think vendors would waste their time. Some will use it obviously out of need & if it keeps online then maybe in a year SR will be a memory but so many vendors would have been stung that I don't think they'll bother. Time will tell.

I don't know how you do business, but I prefer to adapt and overcome. If that means I will use a less than perfect BMR site to service clients until I, or someone else, can make a better alternative, I will do that.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: morphineman on November 10, 2012, 04:57 pm
not that im jumping ship i have thousands in sr account, but in mean time what is BMR how to find it?
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: UK Pharma on November 10, 2012, 04:57 pm
Well I think there is a fully backup of SR system,right?
If really aomething happen, they can just reload same system but different url,right?
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I have seen this done with Onion sites yes - & I do not doubt DPR's abilities to action this which is
why SR has had its staying power.

SO possibles:

1. SR was on a slow server - the backup # 1 2 & 3 are transferring to the super new quad core i7 server.
2. Bust by feds but they cannot get into existing server due to DPR's 2000+ bit encryption so they're trying to do a 'deal'. (which he won't do)
3. Not going there.
4. Lines being replaced as SR was in New Jersey area.
5. This is all a dream and I took too many valiums waiting to awake.
6. House flood/fire on single server with no back up - muchoooo fucko.  :-X

Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: Purple_Hue000 on November 10, 2012, 07:40 pm
I understand the natural paranoia but like someone said earlier. "this site hasn't even been down for a full 24hours"

Let's just kick back
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: HardHustle on November 10, 2012, 07:49 pm
BMR is plan B. More people should be aware of this, shit.

I mean I know it's a den of thieves right now, but it's the only site that is anywhere near the caliber of SR (they claim over there it's way better/more secure, but I have no evidence to corroborate that) and I think the SR people moving over there could really change it for the better.

That said though I doubt SR is going down any time soon. We just need to get this server bullshit taking care of, as I'm sure DPR is busting his ass to get done right now (hence him not being present at all on the forums).
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: bbuyer76 on November 10, 2012, 08:05 pm
well he should be present on the forums or someone else should be as this keeping everyone in the dark shit just sucks!
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: HardHustle on November 10, 2012, 08:36 pm
well he should be present on the forums or someone else should be as this keeping everyone in the dark shit just sucks!

Hey it's our job to be loyal and patient. We're his people, we can't just abandon him and think he's been compromised when he's working hard to fix things. You've also got to consider the possibility that no one but him really knows what's going on, and if he were to share what's going on, he could compromise himself/the site. Imo we've got to be patient and understanding. He's gonna come to us when he's ready, just like he always has.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: sweetone on November 10, 2012, 08:38 pm
my planb is to take some blues and relax  8)
tommorow the world will be looking different again ...

 :-*

 
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: RadioDog on November 10, 2012, 09:21 pm
My plan B is to start drinking again. I'm staying loyal to SR though, I have faith it will return. I've been around a few months now and I can't believe how amazingly people are actually working together. I seriously expected SR to be the way everyone is saying BMR is, and I was very pleased to find out it's not at all. Sure there's some scammers and bullshit just like there is anywhere but it's far from the clusterfuck of bullshit and thievery it could be.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: Oompaloompa on November 10, 2012, 09:57 pm
I recognise everyone's anxious & a bit paranoid - SRs down & we can't get ahold of good weed to chill out - but seriously,
RELAX
give it a little time and either SR will come back online or you'll hear about it on the news. Nothing you can do about it either way.

Yes there are other onion sites you can try - and go ahead, hope you have positive results - but it won't affect the SR situation & all this yammering about alternatives & the end of SR is just driving the paranoia count higher & higher.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: Tunbear on November 10, 2012, 10:13 pm
well he should be present on the forums or someone else should be as this keeping everyone in the dark shit just sucks!

It surprises me how many people have opinions like this. You're a member of an underground super secret drugs market where pretty much every illicit substance is at your fingertips, like the drug dealer of your dreams, and yet still have the balls to demand the same sort of feedback and status updates of a normal site.

Just sit back, chill, and hope shit works out.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: g7455mk2 on November 10, 2012, 10:14 pm
Plan B unnecessary.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=70563.0
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: tradesalt on November 10, 2012, 10:55 pm
Plan B unnecessary.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=70563.0

Uh, this is stupid. That thread provides no useful information.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: Ballzinator on November 10, 2012, 11:03 pm
BMR, hands down.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: rise_against on November 11, 2012, 12:59 am
BMR has backup sites also, which SR should have.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: Ballzinator on November 11, 2012, 02:12 am
BMR has backup sites also, which SR should have.
Exactly. They also have built-in PGP encryption and SR doesn't.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: johnmtl on November 11, 2012, 02:19 am
BMR has backup sites also, which SR should have.
Exactly. They also have built-in PGP encryption and SR doesn't.

So what you're saying is its safer?? I have fucked around on bmr and its like a copy of SR.. minus the vendors and buyers and good reviews...

I would hate to have to move over there!

that would suck!
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: Droughtx on November 11, 2012, 02:29 am
This site may get busted but the darknet will always exist.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: wretched on November 11, 2012, 02:38 am
Plan B?    Plan B?

plan B is to keep plan A alive and kicking. If plan A fails, then we failed, and we cannot let that happen again! Stay the course! Keep the free free and free the slaved.


BTW thanks ice, you made me break my pledge today :) you evil, beautiful, temptress bastard.

enough ramblings from wretched

positive attitudes :)  onwards and upwards back into the void (where I belong ATM)
the neez indeed!

best of luck SR admins, I trust you!

everyone else, your assignmebt is to stay calm, and spread that calm and steadfast optimism to everyone you know. This hurdle will be overcome and we will be stronger having hurdled it :)

have a good night, and a pleasant tomorrow
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: valentinesmith on November 11, 2012, 03:28 am
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=70572.0

http://i50.tinypic.com/20idzls.png
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: Dontchargeme on November 11, 2012, 04:37 am
Hey Guys,

Thanks for all the replies.

This post wasant made to make people paranoid. I am loyal to SR but we need to be mindful that one day the worst could happen here.

There are a lot of very powerful people in powerful counties that want to see the end of this place. Granted TOR might be great technology now but technologies change and one day this place might not be.....

I knew about BMR before I posted and was wondering if there where any others. From the replies it doesnt look to be the case.

Cheers,

Dontchargeme
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: PillPirate on November 11, 2012, 05:23 am
Hey Guys,

Thanks for all the replies.

This post wasant made to make people paranoid. I am loyal to SR but we need to be mindful that one day the worst could happen here.

There are a lot of very powerful people in powerful counties that want to see the end of this place. Granted TOR might be great technology now but technologies change and one day this place might not be.....

I knew about BMR before I posted and was wondering if there where any others. From the replies it doesnt look to be the case.

Cheers,

Dontchargeme


There are other options, but they're not quite as sound or reliable as SR and BMR.
I can think of maybe one or two, but they're not that great and have quite the record of
being full of scrammer and/or run by scammers...
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: mode on November 11, 2012, 06:35 am
Downtime always brings out the addicts  :o
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: ianfleming on November 11, 2012, 07:11 am
Why not try to get and email or other contact info for your top 3 sellers, if the road goes down then you'll still have a line to them.
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: awot555 on November 11, 2012, 10:35 am
Is this what you cunts do all day?

Sit around here talking shit.?

Plan B is you go and visit your mum and get a cuddle, and after she tucks you in, you  suck on your thumb with your bedroom door open and the hallway light left on ,knowing that when your step dad gets home from the bar and comes looking for some action  it's your turn.

Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: drdoof on November 11, 2012, 11:12 am
I am tryig out the BMR http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php an it all works fine, slighly different here and there but I just fulfilled my first order and sure hope to do more. Competition is good voor de market, but when the market gets competitioon herself they start lockiing topic ans removing posts… Check out tde BMR, do’t bet everything on the ranch, these guys need to come of their high horses and come clean with the peole that made them a success… I’m focusing on setting up shop at the BMR, and you can just ask for a sellers account if oyu want… fees are 4% fixed rate… so what’s stopping you?
(I excppect this to be erased by one of them, they sure got time for that)
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: technofarm on November 11, 2012, 03:54 pm
I am tryig out the BMR http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php an it all works fine, slighly different here and there but I just fulfilled my first order and sure hope to do more. Competition is good voor de market, but when the market gets competitioon herself they start lockiing topic ans removing posts… Check out tde BMR, do’t bet everything on the ranch, these guys need to come of their high horses and come clean with the peole that made them a success… I’m focusing on setting up shop at the BMR, and you can just ask for a sellers account if oyu want… fees are 4% fixed rate… so what’s stopping you?
(I excppect this to be erased by one of them, they sure got time for that)

BMR doesn't have an escrow system right?
Title: Re: What is Plan B???? (IF SR Did actually get busted)
Post by: Ballzinator on November 11, 2012, 04:44 pm
I am tryig out the BMR http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php an it all works fine, slighly different here and there but I just fulfilled my first order and sure hope to do more. Competition is good voor de market, but when the market gets competitioon herself they start lockiing topic ans removing posts… Check out tde BMR, do’t bet everything on the ranch, these guys need to come of their high horses and come clean with the peole that made them a success… I’m focusing on setting up shop at the BMR, and you can just ask for a sellers account if oyu want… fees are 4% fixed rate… so what’s stopping you?
(I excppect this to be erased by one of them, they sure got time for that)

BMR doesn't have an escrow system right?
Of course it does! :)