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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: trollsquad on August 27, 2012, 03:25 am

Title: Lets talk scales
Post by: trollsquad on August 27, 2012, 03:25 am
I'm thinking of getting a gram of mxe and basically i need a new scale to do it safely.

So i would really like to know what scales most of you guys prefer.  best bamg for you buck would be nice as well.
Title: Re: Lets talk scales
Post by: flicky42 on August 27, 2012, 04:10 am
You can get scales on amazon that are .001 g for about 20-30 dollars. They work surprisingly well for me with an error margin of only +/- .002 g.   If your just weighing out shit for personal use you don't need anything fancy but if your dealing and capping and want to be a good guy you need to throw out like over a hundred for a good miligram scale.
Title: Re: Lets talk scales
Post by: b0lixtrader on August 27, 2012, 04:31 am
American Weigh Gemini-20 on amazon.  Brand new for 24 dollars.

Only weighs up to 20grams but it measures up to the thousandths. .001g
Title: Re: Lets talk scales
Post by: Delta11 on August 27, 2012, 07:37 am
American Weigh Gemini-20 on amazon.  Brand new for 24 dollars.

Only weighs up to 20grams but it measures up to the thousandths. .001g
I started off with that scale but it malfunctions after a while and no matter how many times I calibrated it it would just weigh things weirdly (talking about three months after use) but if you don't mind shelling a few extra dollars I would get the AWS GPR-20, it's about $70.
Title: Re: Lets talk scales
Post by: trollsquad on August 27, 2012, 11:37 am
Thanks guys i think i'll go for the AWS g  20 fpr the time being. I wont be being using it that often.  Not many rcs i'm trying to weigh out.  If only 25i wasn't so small of a dosage.
Title: Re: Lets talk scales
Post by: Delta11 on August 27, 2012, 03:09 pm
Thanks guys i think i'll go for the AWS g  20 fpr the time being. I wont be being using it that often.  Not many rcs i'm trying to weigh out.  If only 25i wasn't so small of a dosage.
It's a good scale for the price but if you're going to be measuring RCs like 25i no scale would be accurate enough, it's always advised to use volumetric measurement.
Title: Re: Lets talk scales
Post by: aginalda on August 27, 2012, 03:30 pm
Can someone suggest a straigntforward procedure for volumetric measurement?  TIA
Title: Re: Lets talk scales
Post by: TheAbsurd on August 29, 2012, 08:56 pm
I'd recommend the cheap one on Amazon for things like MXE, MDMA, etc. It is not a good idea to use it for substances such as 25i-NBOMe or DOC. I used it for 2c's with a steep response curve and it was a hit or miss. Sometimes my 20mg cap of 2c-i would be on the weaker side, but I also tripped balls on it one time with the "same dose". It's probably the best scale for MXE, MDMA, etc. A decent scale for 2c's. And a terrible scale for NBOMes and DOx.
Title: Re: Lets talk scales
Post by: Ben on August 30, 2012, 12:22 am
Can someone suggest a straigntforward procedure for volumetric measurement?  TIA

The procedure is fairly simple:

Lets say you had 50 mg of a substance, and want to divide it into 0.5 mg dosages. The 50 mg you can reliably measure with affordable scales, the 0.5 mg you cannot measure reliably without an analytical balance that costs more then the average car.

The way to go then is to measure out the 50 mg of substance, and dissolve it into a suitable solvent. Something like methanol will work well for many drugs, but check solubility before proceeding. You use a pipet to add* 1.00 ml to the 50 mg you have weighed, and shake/stir/wait to dissolve completely.

Then you take a 10 uL pipette to produce each individual 0.5 mg dose from the solution you just made. Once the solvent evaporates you have pretty precies 0.5 dosages of something you could not possibly measure to that accuracy.


* Technically you should not add 1.00 ml of solvent, but add solvent until the solution is 1.00 ml in total volume. Practically this doesn't make that much difference if you want to get it right down to a few percent, not to ppm's.