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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Southstar on December 17, 2012, 06:37 am
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Review and discussion thread for Vendor Southstar http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/30089046e2
We are the low cost leader on Silk Road and we will always be the low cost leader ;)
Percocet from $1.89 and no finalizing early!
We don't play any games requiring you to have a spending or transaction history to get descent prices.
No one is tricked into paying more because they did not spend $4000 on Silk Road or have 40 transactions.
Percocet shouldn't cost twice as much because it was shipped from Japan or Singapore with a fast food toy.
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Who is the best percocet vendor on Silk Road? Go see for yourself.
If you don't want to FE I won't tell you, my valued customer, to go find a new vendor.
That is my promise to you.
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Will this really take only 5 days?
I was reading on another thread that there's a big delay out of China. Some 20+ days. Is that because of the shipping carrier USPS? Do you have any faster options? Also do you give out tracking so buyer doesn't have to be in the dark?
At least you have escrow. But still, even 10 days is a long wait. Cutting it close to auto-finalize.
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Will this really take only 5 days?
I was reading on another thread that there's a big delay out of China. Some 20+ days. Is that because of the shipping carrier USPS? Do you have any faster options? Also do you give out tracking so buyer doesn't have to be in the dark?
At least you have escrow. But still, even 10 days is a long wait. Cutting it close to auto-finalize.
He is lying shipments from China are not delayed unless customs has it, it was never sent, or his customers are being set up for a controlled delivery.
His suppliers told me they were getting tired of his shit.
Only a fool would give the Chinese Mafia a list of their customers and tell them to ship packages.
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A controlled delivery? Shit. That's fucked up.
So, with your packages, no one has to sign for them right? because if they do, the how would I know you're not trying to set me up for a controlled delivery?
Chinese mafia is a world away, why would anyone in the US worry about them? Chinese LE don't talk to US LE about much of anything. US and China are like frienemies and shit.
As for customs, if they nab shit, they send a love letter or the package with a love letter with the drugs removed. Anyone report that happening with any of the overseas perc vendors like you and PureO?
Just trying to gauge your trustworthiness since you hung Onestop's farewell to SR message like a trophy on your seller page. I'd take that down. That's trashy, yo. (I copied that page though. That's some rare shit for a competing vendor to do that it might one day be good enough for SR's hall of fame).
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Anyone receive yet? Please post quality of pills. Legit, bunk?
Do the community a favor, brave souls who ordered first. Also post that in the SR feedback since you can't trust forum posts.
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Still no reviews here or on SR? I guess there is a shipping delay with EMS afterall. Might give the fedex option a try tho. It's escrow so can't get caught out there.
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Checking in to see if anyone has ordered from the vendor? It has been a while since they put out their low priced offerings. I wanted to wait and see some feedback roll in.
Also, do all shipments come from outside of the US?
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So, basically after all the shit talking this vendor hasn't done any deals? Go figure.
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Tagging to see reviews
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Tried placing an order with southstar and he/she informed me that I needed to opt in or out for insurance to get the order rolling. So I opted out. Next thing you know, I got a canceled order. I emailed southstar to see why my order was canceled and the response was short. "I cant send packages federal express".
I didn't opt for Federal Express. I clicked on the only shipping option available for the order. This was a poor excuse for canceling my order. Thus far, doesn't seem like this vendor is legit, nor is this vendor good at communicating. To post such a horrible dramatic message about another vendor on your profile page isn't professional at all.
I'm pretty honest and straightforward in my dealings... this one doesn't seem worth the time.
Hope this helps others who are questioning this vendor.
BBB2012
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I've been trying to figure if it was safe to order. And also when I did the math, the listing didn't seem to match-which I found it was because the listing was in cash.
I first asked if he still had them for sale under$2
SouthStar: all our listings are for 512s are below $2 it is 1.89 + shipping fees all the questions can be answers if you read profile
Me: 100 pack seems to equal 2.09 plus shipping fees.
SouthStar: price is 1.89 + sr fees plus shipping fees.also price is pegged to btc not usd that is to protect us if btc slides down, no one is buying summer homes with this price.if the price is not to your liking do not order, i will do you a favour and cancel your order so you don't lose money from your misreading.
Me: I wasn't being hostile, just confused. I do have the listings set to US dollars. I did not order yet for you to cancel.
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That's troubling.
Proceed with caution. Best to wait until more reviews come in. Doesn't seem many got their orders yet. Been 3 weeks or so now. This is assuming that they are being truthful about 20 orders around Christmas time.
At the end of the day, I think SouthStar may be justifiably worried about shills who will make an order just to leave 1/5 regardless. So they are being careful with whom they do business with. Don't expect to develop a rapport with them. Just keep it strictly business.
Order, receive order, finalize.
Their prices are cheap enough to not expect any sort customer service. If you get it, consider it a bonus. But if things go awry, there's always SR support since everything is in escrow.
I would recommend also ordering from another vendor at the same time in case the order doesn't arrive in a timely manner. You don't want to be caught out there with no product or coming near the last of your stock before needing to refill. That'll cause you unnecessary anxiety. Always diversify.
One thing I thought was funny was this on their seller page: "This is a business. I am not your buddy, don't expect free pills because it is your birthday, or in exchange for something positive they post on the forum."
LOL, they are referring to my and Onestop's relationship. Most vendor's I deal with treat their regular clients well. It's not necessary but it sure is appreciated.
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I tried to order from SouthStar and he cancelled my order for no reason. What ticked me off is that we exchanged messages the day before. Then a few hour after I order, he cancels it. and he won't say why.
This guy seems shady. do you think he's gathering info on buyers? I mean, you place an order, give him your details- then he cancels. even if you dont use your real name, he has your address.
Hes been here for months now, no confirmed orders. and his price is way low. he doesnt want buyers to finalize early. too good to be true???
and why does he mention "shipped in fast food toy". why would you even comment about how people ship? thats way unprofessional.
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Oh, you mean they're assholes too?
Shocka.
Seriously, who wants to do business with these clowns? You place and order not sure if it will be accepted? WTF is that?
And 3 weeks later, only 1 pill review? LOL. And they swore there were no EMS delays.
Asshats.
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So, basically after all the shit talking this vendor hasn't done any deals? Go figure.
Many people like yourself seem to have a reading comprehension problem.
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I've been trying to figure if it was safe to order. And also when I did the math, the listing didn't seem to match-which I found it was because the listing was in cash.
I first asked if he still had them for sale under$2
SouthStar: all our listings are for 512s are below $2 it is 1.89 + shipping fees all the questions can be answers if you read profile
Me: 100 pack seems to equal 2.09 plus shipping fees.
SouthStar: price is 1.89 + sr fees plus shipping fees.also price is pegged to btc not usd that is to protect us if btc slides down, no one is buying summer homes with this price.if the price is not to your liking do not order, i will do you a favour and cancel your order so you don't lose money from your misreading.
Me: I wasn't being hostile, just confused. I do have the listings set to US dollars. I did not order yet for you to cancel.
I am not going to cut n' paste this persons pms, that is not right. Besides all his pm would fill up 2 pages, it was nice of him to post the edited version.
As a vendor, I don't know if it is a set up or just some idiot who thinks silkroad fees don't apply to him. And as a vendor I have the option, work with idiots or cancel their orders.
My choice on that matter is clear.
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LOL. You puff your chest out thinking you're better than OneStop who called his customers junkies. \
And here you are calling a potential customer an "idiot" all because he was a little confused and was looking for clarification....
Pffffttt... you guys really do suck.
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You are on the money there Mojo. Lucky for me, this customer provided more than ample proof that he is an idiot.
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The whole point is your mean. I'm not mad cause you didnt let me order, I never tried. Where do you come in and say this about SR's fees? that just doesn't make sense. Your welcome for the edited version, which you act like it is so edited for some reason. Here is the two pages and the "real" convo-screen shot, not cut and paste. I could tell by the few sentences you sent me that you were mean, so I was nervous about what you were gonna try to say. I didn't even give an opinion on the conversation, I just posted a condensed message;you were quick to take the defensive and call me an idiot.
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The whole point is your mean. I'm not mad cause you didnt let me order, I never tried. Where do you come in and say this about SR's fees? that just doesn't make sense. Your welcome for the edited version, which you act like it is so edited for some reason. Here is the two pages and the "real" convo-screen shot, not cut and paste. I could tell by the few sentences you sent me that you were mean, so I was nervous about what you were gonna try to say. I didn't even give an opinion on the conversation, I just posted a condensed message;you were quick to take the defensive and call me an idiot.
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Thanks for posting a screen shot so others could see how things actually went down (+karma). I have to admit that I wasn't sure things played out as you said and was sort of giving SouthStar somewhat of the benefit of the doubt. Well, I have to say, you did have a perfectly legitimate question. There was nothing at all "idiotic" about your question. You noticed a price discrepancy and was looking for clarification. Sure, you could have assumed the SR fee was behind the discrepancy. But since most vendors list their prices with the SR fee factored in, asking for clarification was the reasonable thing to do.
You were in no way being hostile, idiotic or exhibiting a lack of reading comprehension skills. SouthStar's hostile and rude response was unwarranted. I can understand a vendor not wanting to "chit chat" with a potential customer or even a returning one. But that sort of response was out of line.
Sorry that you had a bad experience but at least you had it before doing business. No telling what sort of issue might have cropped up down the road sometime.
If anything, I can recommend a few good sellers who treat their customers like human beings: Googleyed, PureO. I've done business with them in the past and it was a pleasant experience. Especially with PureO. There's also a new vendor that has a lot of good potential: Cimicon. Sells the 10mg percs. It goes without saying that each of them sells for higher prices. But it might be worth it for peace of mind and excellent and responsive customer service. And they also treat their returning customers properly - if you know what I mean. ;)
Hopefully SouthStar will improve their image, attitude and customer service in the future. They do have the best prices on SR hands down. When they start a US/US option, it will probably be worth taking a second look at.
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The whole point is your mean. I'm not mad cause you didnt let me order, I never tried. Where do you come in and say this about SR's fees? that just doesn't make sense. Your welcome for the edited version, which you act like it is so edited for some reason. Here is the two pages and the "real" convo-screen shot, not cut and paste. I could tell by the few sentences you sent me that you were mean, so I was nervous about what you were gonna try to say. I didn't even give an opinion on the conversation, I just posted a condensed message;you were quick to take the defensive and call me an idiot.
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WAAA WAAAA WAAA This vendor does not want to chat with me, answer my 6 messages and be my friend. This is an anonymous website, I want to keep it that way. These things are coming from a country that doesn't fuck around with trafficing or trafficers.
My prices are incredibly low. If I answered your messages, because you are too lazy to read my introduction page I would have to quit my job and make SR a full time gig. At this price that is impossible. Buy some stuff from the rip off percocet vendors if you want some vendor friends.
And if you think I am keeping you money because I did not confirm your order, you are plain stupid.
Whether buyers finalize early or not my prices are by far the lowest on silk road
See for yourself -----
Southstar (100) .11 BTC or .145 BTC non FE
Onestop (97) .23 BTC
Getpercocet (100) .24 BTC
PureO (100) .24 BTC
Googleeyed (97) .32 BTC
AlexMack380 (94) .32
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Point taken.
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You might want to clean up your vendor page. It's a garbled mess. You should get rid of the onestop's goodbye message. It needlessly makes your vendor page too log and makes it harder for some to find useful info. You can't expect new buyers to read through all that or even care. Why would they care about a vendor that's been gone for more than a month?
And once you start requiring FE (when you reach enough orders - which will take you a while considering) you'll be no better than Onestop when he required FE.
Get your act together.
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Taking down Onestop love note to his customers, is that request coming from you Ben or Onestop? Sometimes its hard to tell you two apart :D
Benny boy, your constructive criticism would be taken more seriously if there was some credibility to back those up. :o
I am not even referring to comments you made about me.
As for me offering the $1.89 price when customers can finalize early. You seem to have a good idea of my profit margin, and you know if btc prices plunge the same way as they are rising I will easily be in the red. F ::)e won't harm my business, judging by the feedback gooogleyed's feedback he asks everyone buying perks to finalize early, I imagine pure0 does quite a bit of that too. :o
You even assured people to trust onestop and when he was asking people to finalize early. You broke your own rule of never finalize early. I am sure one day you'll gain the same type of trust with me. ;) I keep forgetting to ask, how many p̶i̶l̶l̶s̶ days till your next birthday? ;D ;D ;D
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I have plenty of credibility. Plenty. You on the other hand have none yet. Not sure you ever will seeing how arrogant you are and how you treat potential clients.
Your page is a mess. You'd be better served linking Onestop's farewell message if you feel you really have to. But, as other posters have said, even in chat, posting that makes you look shady as hell. Only a shady vendor would do that. But you can leave it up for all eternity. The longer you leave it up, the dumber you will look. Anyone who bothers to look up Onestop will see that he left a month ago and will ask themselves, "why the hell would a vendor post something about another vendor who doesn't even vend anymore?" It would be like a coke vendor posting about legendary scammer Tony76 on their vendor page.
Did I break my rule of never finalizing early? Yep. Was I hurt by it? Nope. See? :) Simple.
PureO is the most reliable perc vendor here. They don't ask anyone to FE. Neither does Googleyed. Some people just do it out of respect. A lot of vendors get clients that FE out of respect. Both take the time to not only treat their customers right, but to develop a rapport with their repeat customers.
You, on the other hand, need to be careful. You never know which client is looking to report you to SR support. It's going to take you a while before you get enough sales to be able to ask for FE. If you cleaned up your seller profile page, you'd probably be doing more business. Some people skim reading your profile page think it is YOU who is leaving that message and not Onestop.
Anyway, good luck with your business. Potential clients that read your profile on SR have reported being turned off by it and anyone who does any sort of research before buying can't find any particularly compelling reason to do business with you. You could change that around but you don't seem to want to.
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Look, at this point, only a blind fool would order from SouthStar. There are so many red flags that you'd have to be in full on fiend mode to risk buying from them.
1. They've been a vendor for 6 months and only had a few pill orders, the rest were cold water extraction instructions - the same instructions PureO provides for free. SouthStar probably bought those CWE instruction listings themselves in an attempt to build up vendor rep. LOL. That didn't work.
2. They lied about having 20 or more orders around Christmas time. They would have 20 more feedbacks if they did. Even if some autofinalized. So if they were telling the truth, then a whole bunch of people still didn't get their orders sent by EMS yet.
3. You never know if they will accept your order. They have rejected orders from people on arbitrary grounds.
4. They had a bullshit .10BTC sale for former Onestop customers.
5. They compare their prices to Onestop who doesn't even sell anymore. What kind of a dickhead does that?
6. They list the farewell message of a vendor who is not even competition anymore. Onestop hasn't been for about a month now. What kind of asshole lists another vendor's farewell message and for this long?
7. They are telling people to "do their part and order" so they can start asking for FE. LOL. They started off saying that they would NEVER ask anyone to FE. They are full of shit. They are a SHIT vendor.
8. They think of potential clients as "pillheads," "idiots," "children" and "of impaired judgment." Just look at all their posts and their vendor page.
9. The price they list isn't the price you pay. They leave out SR Fees.
10. Unlike every other vendor, they won't give you any extra pills if you're a regular customer. Customer service is not even at the bottom of their list. They only want your money. They are probably selling fake Chinese Percocets will variable amounts of opiate in them.
There's nothing to trust with this vendor. They act like assholes everytime the present themselves in public. Because they are assholes.
BUYER BEWARE.
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SouthStar, it's been a while since you've had some sales I see.
Try an experiment for the weekend. Remove all that unnecessary and unfriendly commentary on your vendor page, stick to the basics and see if you get any sales.
Give it a shot.
Your call.
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I was never lazy. I read it all. I did. I was thinking there was a update or an "end date" problem on you listings. Jesus Titty Fucking.
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No need to defend yourself, ikeepforgettingmyusername. Their vendor page is a mess and has a few confusing and contradictory statements on it. Is it any wonder sales have been slow in spite of their amazing pricing?
All they have to do is clean up their vendor page, simplify it, make it more inviting, and organize it better, and they would be doing significantly better business.
But it doesn't seem to be their goal to be the #1 seller of percs. Besides, it seems their customer service as evidenced in the forums, leaves much to be desired. Maybe their actual customer service is better. But who knows? There isn't anyone singing their praises.
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Who are these people who are buying Cold Water Extraction instructions? Seriously? Who pays for information that is freely available on the interwebs? (My guess is that it's Southstar's shill account buying it trying to raise their vendor rating). But in case I'm wrong...
People, here it is FOR FREE(so you don't have to waste your coins): Cold Water Extraction:
Method 1:
This is a Cold water extraction recipe that will allow you to remove nearly all the acetaminophen (Paracetamol, Tylenol, or APAP) from Percocet.
Some recipes on the internet claim they can remove 95-99% of Tylenol and leave nearly pure Oxycodone within a 2-4 hour time frame. It cannot be done in less than 3-4 days!
What you are going to need to start:
1) 10-15 Percocet, Codeine, or Vicodin pills : 10-15 Percocet pills per liter
2) Coffee filters and someone to hold them in place. Paper towel can be used if needed.
3) About 2- 2 liter bottles of water
4) 2 containers to hold the fluid like an water/ice tea pitcher.
5) Apple Cider Mix in those envelopes or Crystal Light Lemonade
6) A refrigerator because the mixture needs to sit in the fridge during the 72-96 hour process.
7) Patience - approx. 3-4 days worth
{{{The Quick Method ( about 4 hours and removes about 85% acetaminophen) }}}
Step 1: Crush, smash, or place 10-15 per liter Percocet in blender for 2 seconds. DO NOT blend then to a fine powder.
Step 2: Mix that with 1 liter of luke warm water (NOT HOT OR BOILING WATER).
Make sure the water is the temperature of the water as the warm water from your faucet - not hot enough to scold you.
Step 3: Chill that mixture in the fridge for at least 2-4 hours. Do not shake or stir that mix. Let the white stuff fall to the bottom and separate during this period.
**Note the crap on the bottom of the pitcher**
Step 4: Pour that mixture into a water pitcher, making sure you aren’t pouring the whitish substance on the bottom. You will see some chalky white stuff on the bottom of the container. Just toss it!
Step 5: After you poured the clearer stuff on the top into a new water pitcher, stir in 2 or 3 tablespoons of Cider Mix or 1 Teaspoon Cyrstal Light. It will cause the remaining acetaminophen to bind up and fall down to the bottom of the pitcher. Without binding the mixture you can filter what you have, it will take a longer period of time and only remove about 70-75% of the Tylenol.
Step 6: Put it back in the fridge and wait 30 minutes to 1 hour to start binding or you can start filtering if you are pressed for time.
Step 7: Use 2 coffee filters to filter out the Tylenol. It may take up to 30 minutes to filter. The result should be somewhat clear.
ENJOY!!!
METHOD 2: The long, complete method:
Step 1: Crush, smash, or place 20-25 Percocet in blender for 2 seconds. DO NOT blend then to fine powered
Step 2: Mix that with 2 liters of warm water (NOT BOILING WATER*).
*If you put boiling water in the mixture it worthless. Toss it because heat does bad things to Oxycodone.
Make sure the water is the temperature of the hot water that comeser from your faucet - not hot enough to scold you.
Step 3: Chill that mixture in the fridge for at least 24-30 hours. Do not shake that mix, let the white stuff fall to the bottom and separate during this period.
**Note the crap on the bottom of the pitcher**
Step 4: Pour that mixture into a water pitcher, making sure you aren’t pouring the whitish substance on the bottom. You will see some chalky white stuff on the bottom of the container. Some people offering 4 hour recipes believe this is the acetaminophen (Paracetamol, Tylenol, or APAP)- it isn’t! That is corn starch used to bind tablets. The cloudy stuff on top of that chalky stuff is the Tylenol and you need to make sure you don’t transfer that into the next pitcher when you are pouring it into another container. Just toss it!
Step 5: After you poured the clearer stuff on the top into a new water pitcher stir in 2 or 3 tablespoons of Cider Mix or 1 Teaspoon of Lemon Crystal Light. Those two acidic drinks have large amount of Soda Ash and Lime to clarify their drink mixes. It will cause the remaining acetaminophen to bind up and fall down to the bottom of the pitcher.
Step 6: Put it back in the fridge and wait 24-36 hours again for the substance to self filter.
Step 7: Move the mixture to a new picture. It should be clear enough to see through, and be slightly tinted. Again toss the cloudy stuff on the bottom out.
Step 8 Preview: If you made sure to follow the first 7 steps carefully, you won’t need to filter anything because it should be clear and filtered itself during the unbinding process. Just to be safe, run that mix through a coffee filter.
After trying this a few times move on to your Cold Water Extraction Ph.D.- which is slightly heating that mixture for 12-24 hours until you’ve condense most of the water out.
This step should not be handled by novices as you are gambling with a lot time and finished product.
Step 8 (the Ph.D.) if you feel that you are indeed mastered this, then and only then try your hand at extracting water from the mixture and making a powerful tonic that fits nicely into a flask or shotglass. What is very important to remember here is heat does bad things to oxycodone and can make the mixture less potent or brownish if done incorrectly.
Carefully place the finished batch into a pot (like a spaghetti pot) and genteelly heat. NEVER BRING TO A BOIL OR SIMMER. Gas stoves are notoriously bad from this, a crock pot or rice cooker with a “keep warm” option is idea. Electric stoves work also well too, but make sure that the fluid always remains warm or hot to the touch but no heat bubbles form in the pan. Over the next 12-24 hour period you should be able to reduce the amount of water by ½ to ¼, or even 1/8 of the original batch. This is some potent stuff so be very careful about chugging or gulping the entire mixture as each time you swallow can be equivalent to taking a 20 or 40 mg oxycodone tablet (depending how many Percocet you started the process with.
Feel free to cut the recipe in half if you want to experiment with 10 tablets and 1 liter of water.
Have fun. Be Safe.
AND NOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. You can even find other methods on the clearnet. If you are paranoid searching by Google, use DUCKDUCKGO which doesn't keep track of your searches.
BUT don't BUY it from any vendie,
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Mojo is a troll. What he posted is not what I sell, have fun using that.
There are some angry posters who seem to troll this thread for one reason only. I will not confirm their order. I will not confirmed orders from if they are new accounts, people who are on scam lists, fake addresses, or just assholes who need to constantly consume time. If you cannot read the listings, do not order. Scammers and serial trolls like mojo won't get their orders filled, don't waste your time trying.
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I am accepting and shipping orders. Do not advice from trolls or other vendor's shills who troll this thread and say otherwise.
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Back to basic with the old style of pricing. Buy as many or as few as you like with prices starting at only $1.99!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/30089046e2
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Mojo is a troll. What he posted is not what I sell, have fun using that.
There are some angry posters who seem to troll this thread for one reason only. I will not confirm their order. I will not confirmed orders from if they are new accounts, people who are on scam lists, fake addresses, or just assholes who need to constantly consume time. If you cannot read the listings, do not order. Scammers and serial trolls like mojo won't get their orders filled, don't waste your time trying.
But... how is it that I'm the troll by simply pointing out a few facts that anyone can verify. And I mean anyone. They can buy your "CWE instructions" and see that it's merely worded a little differently.
BTW, how would you know if I'm ordering from you? So your customer selectivity methodology is not only deeply flawed, but you appear quite paranoid as well.
Good luck. Everything about your vending says, "buyer beware." And that's why you have such low sales even though you have without a doubt the cheapest price for M512 5/325 on SR.
:)
Karma, it is bitch no?
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tldr: 0/5
Where to begin ..
First of all, taken from seller's OP:
"We don't play any games requiring you to have a spending or transaction history to get descent prices.
No one is tricked into paying more because they did not spend $4000 on Silk Road or have 40 transactions.
Percocet shouldn't cost twice as much because it was shipped from Japan or Singapore with a fast food toy"
And now:
"Back to basic with the old style of pricing. Buy as many or as few as you like with prices starting at only $1.99!"
So effectively the vendor is admitting to:
1. Playing Games with you
2. Tricking you into paying more
3. Not trusting you
He claims to have went back to old pricing because one individual "fucked" him for giving a 4/5. I think it's because he's trying to hustle low history buyers for more money.
Essentially I tried reasoning with him that his pricing actually wasn't cheaper than other resellers when compared to bulk packages they offer (and yes they do offer to people with low transaction history) and offering to purchase for something comparable to give him his margins and have me become a regular. I even offered to start on the lower end and work my way up with rep. Nope, you are forced into "being tricked into paying more" because of his ridiculous pricing scheme which doesn't even make sense structurally compared to other sellers' options.
I was honest and upfront with my commitment to being a frequent purchaser, that he'd get his good feedback, but still all I got was his self-important bullshit and essentially trying to emphasize that everyone is dumb.
I won't tell anyone here who to do business with and who not to, but I'm pretty good at spotting bullshit.
Any business, illegal or not, is driven by moving product. You move product by giving people reasons to choose you over the competition. Here are things they consider:
1. Price
2. Customer Service
3. Communication
4. Honesty
5. Reputation/Volume
With this vendor as this thread pretty well proves:
1. He intentionally making people pay more of the product and admits to playing games with people
2. Couldn't give a rats ass about you or your interest in the product
3. Can't hold a conversation without calling someone an idiot
4. See 1, also I personally believe he is OneStop with a new account, why the hell else would he post a "farewell" message on his profile like that and leave it there for months? Also he "acquired" OneStop's supplier? Give me a break, didn't OneStop scam a bunch of people before he left? Hmm..
5. Nothing good being said in this thread, not moving a lot of volume because he can't treat people like people that want his product
I tried placing an order anyways to see if even when I throw a bunch of money at him he processes. Not only does he stop communicating, doesn't even take the time to cancel the order and tell me to fuck off, which would have been his best option, and probably wouldn't have led me to post this. However I'm glad he did as people deserve to be treated if not with respect, then at least as a person who is going to ultimately support a business.
I recommend to all to not fall into the trap of the low prices justifying the buy, know what you're getting into with this, I myself wouldn't go with this vendor if his percs were $0.50, I'd much rather choose someone proven to support their buyers.
What the vendor should do:
1. Stop being an asshole to everyone
2. Stop changing his profile and pricing scheme all the time, people don't trust him as it is
3. Pick a consistent pricing scheme and offer it to everyone, use his personal sole discretion on who and who not to do business with based on their individual stats/history and the way they communicate, not someone unreasonable generic criteria
4. Go read the definition of customer service
5. If you're looking to gain customers, don't admit to tricking them into paying more
6. People asking you questions is a part of business, if you can't handle dealing with people, get out of the business, if people are causing problems for your business instead of helping it see #3
Hope this is helpful to someone.
PS. Southstar don't waste your time trying to defend yourself and call me an idiot or a troll, I don't care what you think or how you feel, I owe it to people to let them know when something is not right, so if you want to avoid posts like this, learn how to treat people and do proper business.
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Yeah, didn't see that coming....
Shocka!
Sorry you had a bad experience. Thanks for reporting. Just can't find any good perc sellers these days.
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tldr: 0/5
Where to begin ..
First of all, taken from seller's OP:
"We don't play any games requiring you to have a spending or transaction history to get descent prices.
No one is tricked into paying more because they did not spend $4000 on Silk Road or have 40 transactions.
Percocet shouldn't cost twice as much because it was shipped from Japan or Singapore with a fast food toy"
And now:
"Back to basic with the old style of pricing. Buy as many or as few as you like with prices starting at only $1.99!"
So effectively the vendor is admitting to:
1. Playing Games with you
2. Tricking you into paying more
3. Not trusting you
He claims to have went back to old pricing because one individual "fucked" him for giving a 4/5. I think it's because he's trying to hustle low history buyers for more money.
Essentially I tried reasoning with him that his pricing actually wasn't cheaper than other resellers when compared to bulk packages they offer (and yes they do offer to people with low transaction history) and offering to purchase for something comparable to give him his margins and have me become a regular. I even offered to start on the lower end and work my way up with rep. Nope, you are forced into "being tricked into paying more" because of his ridiculous pricing scheme which doesn't even make sense structurally compared to other sellers' options.
I was honest and upfront with my commitment to being a frequent purchaser, that he'd get his good feedback, but still all I got was his self-important bullshit and essentially trying to emphasize that everyone is dumb.
I won't tell anyone here who to do business with and who not to, but I'm pretty good at spotting bullshit.
Any business, illegal or not, is driven by moving product. You move product by giving people reasons to choose you over the competition. Here are things they consider:
1. Price
2. Customer Service
3. Communication
4. Honesty
5. Reputation/Volume
With this vendor as this thread pretty well proves:
1. He intentionally making people pay more of the product and admits to playing games with people
2. Couldn't give a rats ass about you or your interest in the product
3. Can't hold a conversation without calling someone an idiot
4. See 1, also I personally believe he is OneStop with a new account, why the hell else would he post a "farewell" message on his profile like that and leave it there for months? Also he "acquired" OneStop's supplier? Give me a break, didn't OneStop scam a bunch of people before he left? Hmm..
5. Nothing good being said in this thread, not moving a lot of volume because he can't treat people like people that want his product
I tried placing an order anyways to see if even when I throw a bunch of money at him he processes. Not only does he stop communicating, doesn't even take the time to cancel the order and tell me to fuck off, which would have been his best option, and probably wouldn't have led me to post this. However I'm glad he did as people deserve to be treated if not with respect, then at least as a person who is going to ultimately support a business.
I recommend to all to not fall into the trap of the low prices justifying the buy, know what you're getting into with this, I myself wouldn't go with this vendor if his percs were $0.50, I'd much rather choose someone proven to support their buyers.
What the vendor should do:
1. Stop being an asshole to everyone
2. Stop changing his profile and pricing scheme all the time, people don't trust him as it is
3. Pick a consistent pricing scheme and offer it to everyone, use his personal sole discretion on who and who not to do business with based on their individual stats/history and the way they communicate, not someone unreasonable generic criteria
4. Go read the definition of customer service
5. If you're looking to gain customers, don't admit to tricking them into paying more
6. People asking you questions is a part of business, if you can't handle dealing with people, get out of the business, if people are causing problems for your business instead of helping it see #3
Hope this is helpful to someone.
PS. Southstar don't waste your time trying to defend yourself and call me an idiot or a troll, I don't care what you think or how you feel, I owe it to people to let them know when something is not right, so if you want to avoid posts like this, learn how to treat people and do proper business.
Arcnoose is a liar and now the cheapskate has screw over the last vendor who will sell to him.
:o He ordered more than 150 at a price reserved for real buyers who aren't hiding behind new accounts.
He has 6 transactions and already has problems with other percocet vendors.
:'( I accepted his order only because he wrote me many messages complained he is a google eyed customer who was fucked over by google eyed, and he is poor.
His package was in the post office when he started having a spazz attack sending me messages demanding to know why it wasn't confirmed yet.
I read his shit slinging review on here and flagged his box with the post office telling them they cant process his order on Monday morning.
I managed to get his package back and I still had to pay for shipping but I cancelled the crybaby's order. :'(
I have his tracking number and receipt this loser cost me 200 yuan. It is a good idea for other vendors to avoid arcnoose and his panic attacks all together. :-X
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Arcnoose is a liar and now the cheapskate has screw over the last vendor who will sell to him.
:o He ordered more than 150 at a price reserved for real buyers who aren't hiding behind new accounts.
He has 6 transactions and already has problems with other percocet vendors.
:'( I accepted his order only because he wrote me many messages complained he is a google eyed customer who was fucked over by google eyed, and he is poor.
His package was in the post office when he started having a spazz attack sending me messages demanding to know why it wasn't confirmed yet.
I read his shit slinging review on here and flagged his box with the post office telling them they cant process his order on Monday morning.
I managed to get his package back and I still had to pay for shipping but I cancelled the crybaby's order. :'(
I have his tracking number and receipt this loser cost me 200 yuan. It is a good idea for other vendors to avoid arcnoose and his panic attacks all together. :-X
Just so we're clear, I'm sorry if you have trouble reading but I never said I was having problems with goog, in fact I said my last order with him came within a week, and that his bulk was cheaper than your singles but your bulk is cheaper which is why I chose to go with you, and tried to work something out with you, I placed the order and said let me know if there are any problems, it sat for 4 days in processing status, I sent a few messages to cancel if you're not intending to process.
I'm sorry but I can't understand why you would go through the trouble of getting the order ready and getting it to the post office without even either marking the order shipped or letting me know what was going on, especially having been sent messages asking what's going on because you stopped responding... for four days I might add. If you don't want bad feedback then don't fuck around with people and treat them like shit, it's pretty simple.
I've never had one problem with any vendor until you, I'm upfront with everyone as I tried to be with you and haven't had one bad experience, save for refusing to FE with one vendor and being refunded, still left a 5/5 because he communicated with me and didn't stop and run away after he was proven wrong. So either you gave me the 50pk pricing and went to ship my order because you knew I was right and your pricing scheme is fucked or you're not doing any sales because you've got no respect for people and they're not ordering shit from you.
Googleyed is a fantastic vendor and even if his prices were twice yours I'm going with him because he doesn't jerk people around.
Anything further just keep it to pm I've said all I need to say, just don't make shit up and try to cover for yourself, I never said I had problems with goog, never said I was poor just that other vendors' bulk packs were cheaper than what your pricing structure would offer to someone like me, I never demanded an update, I very simply said after four days if you're not going to process then just cancel.
Also you probably would have been better off just sending me a message saying the order was shipped even after you saw my post, I would have deleted it and probably would have kept order if the quality was good. You're the one who chose to cancel the order, not me, so you costed yourself $30 as well as all the other money you could have made off me and my buddies.
What's done is done, just drop it and move on, good luck.
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Arcnoose is a liar and now the cheapskate has screw over the last vendor who will sell to him.
:o He ordered more than 150 at a price reserved for real buyers who aren't hiding behind new accounts.
He has 6 transactions and already has problems with other percocet vendors.
:'( I accepted his order only because he wrote me many messages complained he is a google eyed customer who was fucked over by google eyed, and he is poor.
His package was in the post office when he started having a spazz attack sending me messages demanding to know why it wasn't confirmed yet.
I read his shit slinging review on here and flagged his box with the post office telling them they cant process his order on Monday morning.
I managed to get his package back and I still had to pay for shipping but I cancelled the crybaby's order. :'(
I have his tracking number and receipt this loser cost me 200 yuan. It is a good idea for other vendors to avoid arcnoose and his panic attacks all together. :-X
Just so we're clear, I'm sorry if you have trouble reading but I never said I was having problems with goog, in fact I said my last order with him came within a week, and that his bulk was cheaper than your singles but your bulk is cheaper which is why I chose to go with you, and tried to work something out with you, I placed the order and said let me know if there are any problems, it sat for 4 days in processing status, I sent a few messages to cancel if you're not intending to process.
I'm sorry but I can't understand why you would go through the trouble of getting the order ready and getting it to the post office without even either marking the order shipped or letting me know what was going on, especially having been sent messages asking what's going on because you stopped responding... for four days I might add. If you don't want bad feedback then don't fuck around with people and treat them like shit, it's pretty simple.
I've never had one problem with any vendor until you, I'm upfront with everyone as I tried to be with you and haven't had one bad experience, save for refusing to FE with one vendor and being refunded, still left a 5/5 because he communicated with me and didn't stop and run away after he was proven wrong. So either you gave me the 50pk pricing and went to ship my order because you knew I was right and your pricing scheme is fucked or you're not doing any sales because you've got no respect for people and they're not ordering shit from you.
Googleyed is a fantastic vendor and even if his prices were twice yours I'm going with him because he doesn't jerk people around.
Anything further just keep it to pm I've said all I need to say, just don't make shit up and try to cover for yourself, I never said I had problems with goog, never said I was poor just that other vendors' bulk packs were cheaper than what your pricing structure would offer to someone like me, I never demanded an update, I very simply said after four days if you're not going to process then just cancel.
Also you probably would have been better off just sending me a message saying the order was shipped even after you saw my post, I would have deleted it and probably would have kept order if the quality was good. You're the one who chose to cancel the order, not me, so you costed yourself $30 as well as all the other money you could have made off me and my buddies.
What's done is done, just drop it and move on, good luck.
You dumb fuck, go find an account named ObamaCare if you need cheap medicine. You are trying to swing $30 in front of me like a carrot mules head? I am not going to bust my nuts over $30. I am deeply sorry you are poor and cannot afford narcotics, so sorry I lost sleep over you and your $30 last night. I did not cancel your order I just did not confirm it because you intentionally ordered from the wrong listing. Us vendors are tired of your shit, you don't own us. I wipe my ass with a $20 and a $10 bill when I don't have $1s or $5s.
I don't owe you are any other scammer any respect, as you said you are not my customer. If you cannot afford the drugs you are trying to buy don't act stupid or write some long PM about how poor you are or how bad life is treating you, I don't care. I am not the salvation army, go there or a food bank if you want a handout.
If you do not like a vendors prices find a new vendor.
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We set up a new pricing plan. Once again $1.89 percocet will be available starting in April with any order that is being Finalized Early. Do not ask to finalize early now, just wait until we make it available.
The CWE listing has also been re listed. Unlike Mojo, another vendor who trolls this thread claiming its the same one as some other people posted, it has and always has included a step by step video. It is not the same as Mojo troll listed.
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So I was just looking over Percocet listings, trying to find a vendor who would sell a smaller order rather than bulk so that I could try the product, when I came across SouthStar's listing for ten Percocets. Yesterday, it was at about $39. I thought that was a great price, until I saw his shipping is 0.3 BTC. That's basically $50. So you're paying $90 for ten 5mg Percocet pills. Really.
I looked at his profile page and saw that he hadn't changed his shipping prices since January, and so I messaged him to give him a heads up. This is what I said:
loobaloo Hi, I was looking to order from you until I saw your shipping rate - 0.3 BTC. That's like $50. It appears as if you haven't changed your shipping rates since January, when BTC was at 1 BTC = $20-30 or so. Would you consider adjusting your shipping prices to reflect the explosive increase in BTC since the Cyprus fiasco (today BTC is at 1 BTC = $143)? It doesn't make sense to pay that much for shipping when there are other vendors at much higher prices per pill for lower total because of shipping costs that have been updated to reflect current BTC prices. You may have been losing quite a lot of business from this since bitcoins went up.
Cheers
loobaloo
I thought that was reasonable, and perhaps something he just whiffed on - it happens. Yeah...no. Here is his reply:
you have two options, contact usps interntional which is EMS and talk them into lowering their international express shipping charges.
if they think you and your oily Cyprus story is laughable I can get a .30 cent envelope and a produce bad I swipe from Safeway, fill as many pills inside the bag, pop out the air bubble with my chopstick I used for take out and send it regular mail for $7
Want that? One more thing before I forget, it will arrive in 25 days, no dcn or tracking, there is a 20 percent chance customs will nab it and a 50 percent chance the post office here won't let it be sent.
Those are your choices. If you wont some hobo shipping with me or any other vendor prepare finalize early.
;D Seriously? I have dealt with several vendors using EMS in the past two weeks, and they only charged $10 shipping. I checked USPS international shipping rates, and plugged in India with a Priority Mail small box, and it was $23 from the US. Considering how high USPS rates are compared to other countries, there is no way he is paying anywhere close to $50 to ship a few pills from wherever he is to another country.
Now I understand there are some vendors who do a "super stealth" and charge for it. That's fine, and I appreciate the costs involved. But SouthStar isn't doing that; he's just sending pills a normal way. This is what I replied:
loobaloo Wow, you're a total dick. You're the only vendor I've seen using EMS who's charging .3 BTC, which is over $50 at last check. Every other vendor using EMS charges 0.07 BTC, or about $10 if they are pegged to the dollar. I think you are using shipping fees to make up for your "low" pill prices. Sorry, I'm no sucker and I'm not falling for this "oh if I don't charge $50 shipping you are going to get a shitty package and no stealth." Why does every other vendor using your same international shipping manage to provide sufficient packaging and stealth, and delivery times of 5-10 days international, without charging a bizarrely high price for it (I just bought from two different vendors using EMS who did just fine without complaining like a bitch)? Why, because they're not con artists.
I thought I was just tipping you off to something you might want to know. Now I know it's on purpose and you are taking advantage of your customers. Good luck with that.
So there you have it. As seen on this thread and confirmed here, SouthStar is just an asshole trying to rip people off. And before he comes in here claiming I'm another vendor or a buyer who tried to screw him, no, I'm not a vendor, I am a buyer, and I didn't even try to place an order with SouthStar at all not to mention tried to screw him. All I did was ask a question, which is absolutely legitimate considering the guy is using the BTC rise to rape his customers. No wonder he doesn't sell anything.
Here's the screenshot for proof: http://li7qxmk72kp3sgz4.onion/image.php?img=49457fd5&key=WyTjQJZnElvSRgTy
Buyer beware.
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Yup, they're assholes. Plain and simple.
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So I was just looking over Percocet listings, trying to find a vendor who would sell a smaller order rather than bulk so that I could try the product, when I came across SouthStar's listing for ten Percocets. Yesterday, it was at about $39. I thought that was a great price, until I saw his shipping is 0.3 BTC. That's basically $50. So you're paying $90 for ten 5mg Percocet pills. Really.
I looked at his profile page and saw that he hadn't changed his shipping prices since January, and so I messaged him to give him a heads up. This is what I said:
loobaloo Hi, I was looking to order from you until I saw your shipping rate - 0.3 BTC. That's like $50. It appears as if you haven't changed your shipping rates since January, when BTC was at 1 BTC = $20-30 or so. Would you consider adjusting your shipping prices to reflect the explosive increase in BTC since the Cyprus fiasco (today BTC is at 1 BTC = $143)? It doesn't make sense to pay that much for shipping when there are other vendors at much higher prices per pill for lower total because of shipping costs that have been updated to reflect current BTC prices. You may have been losing quite a lot of business from this since bitcoins went up.
Cheers
loobaloo
I thought that was reasonable, and perhaps something he just whiffed on - it happens. Yeah...no. Here is his reply:
you have two options, contact usps interntional which is EMS and talk them into lowering their international express shipping charges.
if they think you and your oily Cyprus story is laughable I can get a .30 cent envelope and a produce bad I swipe from Safeway, fill as many pills inside the bag, pop out the air bubble with my chopstick I used for take out and send it regular mail for $7
Want that? One more thing before I forget, it will arrive in 25 days, no dcn or tracking, there is a 20 percent chance customs will nab it and a 50 percent chance the post office here won't let it be sent.
Those are your choices. If you wont some hobo shipping with me or any other vendor prepare finalize early.
;D Seriously? I have dealt with several vendors using EMS in the past two weeks, and they only charged $10 shipping. I checked USPS international shipping rates, and plugged in India with a Priority Mail small box, and it was $23 from the US. Considering how high USPS rates are compared to other countries, there is no way he is paying anywhere close to $50 to ship a few pills from wherever he is to another country.
Now I understand there are some vendors who do a "super stealth" and charge for it. That's fine, and I appreciate the costs involved. But SouthStar isn't doing that; he's just sending pills a normal way. This is what I replied:
loobaloo Wow, you're a total dick. You're the only vendor I've seen using EMS who's charging .3 BTC, which is over $50 at last check. Every other vendor using EMS charges 0.07 BTC, or about $10 if they are pegged to the dollar. I think you are using shipping fees to make up for your "low" pill prices. Sorry, I'm no sucker and I'm not falling for this "oh if I don't charge $50 shipping you are going to get a shitty package and no stealth." Why does every other vendor using your same international shipping manage to provide sufficient packaging and stealth, and delivery times of 5-10 days international, without charging a bizarrely high price for it (I just bought from two different vendors using EMS who did just fine without complaining like a bitch)? Why, because they're not con artists.
I thought I was just tipping you off to something you might want to know. Now I know it's on purpose and you are taking advantage of your customers. Good luck with that.
So there you have it. As seen on this thread and confirmed here, SouthStar is just an asshole trying to rip people off. And before he comes in here claiming I'm another vendor or a buyer who tried to screw him, no, I'm not a vendor, I am a buyer, and I didn't even try to place an order with SouthStar at all not to mention tried to screw him. All I did was ask a question, which is absolutely legitimate considering the guy is using the BTC rise to rape his customers. No wonder he doesn't sell anything.
Here's the screenshot for proof: http://li7qxmk72kp3sgz4.onion/image.php?img=49457fd5&key=WyTjQJZnElvSRgTy
Buyer beware.
I will also confirm this guy is a buyer. A buyer on the vendor bad buyer list.
Where does this little scammer get off saying I put no time and money into stealth shipping?
If you cannot afford to pay for a vendors time to ship your product do not order. It is that simple. Get ripped off by other vendors, I could care less.
Read my feedback crybaby. You are poor and stupid, I do not need to work free to accommodate a loser like you.
My shipping price are too low. Expect an increase soon.
5 of 5 Amazing stealth, though shipping to the US was a little slow. Still worth it! Thanks so much.
5 of 5 Got it. Good packaging. Nice work. - OD
5 of 5 FE, have a great day.
5 of 5 I opened this package in front of my parents! Haha. Multiple levels of explaining to do. Excellent work across the board.
5 of 5 A little difficult to order but worth the effort. Arrive in 9 days. Will buy again if allowed.
5 of 5 Vendor exceeded my expectations, shipping was super fast and safe and product as described. Will definitely be back for more!
5 of 5 Everything perfect. Good shipping. Great stealth. Awesome prices. Will be back.
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I will also confirm this guy is a buyer. A buyer on the vendor bad buyer list.
LOL. A buyer with perfect stats who is only on *your* bad buyer list because I took the time to question your grifter ways, a buyer you spent days after begging to buy from you even after this exchange. Here are more messages from SouthStar:
SouthStar(100) If you are such a happy buyer why not continue to buy from them?
I have all of googleyed 100 or less customers who tell me on average pills come crushed, in a envelope you can see, and take 2 to 4 weeks.
So if you are happy go back to google. Why dont you complain to pureo about their shipping which is higher than mine? Let me guess they also laughed at you and your cyprus story.
Place an order and I will refund your shipping loobaloo.
I answered:
loobaloo The vendors I mentioned using EMS are not selling Percocet. I looked at your listing because you are the only one on at the moment who is selling less than major bulk and I wanted to sample your product. If I were ordering 1000 pills, $50 shipping might be acceptable. But ten-100? Please.
I looked up EMS' shipping rates and a video box Priority Mail costs $23.95. A small package costs $12. Bubble or paper wrap costs less than $1 per package. Even if you buy a Happy Meal to put the pills in the toys that's only $3 (as you referred to in your vendor forum thread as something you *don't* do). Right now 0.3 BTC = $57. You're not using Priority Mail. So let's give you the benefit of the doubt and say your actual shipping costs are $20 total. Ok I can deal with that. That's still only 0.105 BTC. Even if you are using Priority Mail, the most you could charge is $30.
The reason bitcoins have gotten so expensive is because of the Cyprus bank failure. You laugh at my story, but I'm guessing you don't read international news. Bitcoins cost $20-30 when you set your shipping prices on your profile in January. They are at $194 at the moment. That's a big difference. I wasn't trying to scam you, I was just giving you a heads up about something you might have not thought about. But it's clear you just like to fuck with people, so I don't know why I bothered.
This is what he answered:
SouthStar(100) Before you quote an EMS price you should be sure you know where it is sent from.
I told you I made a mistake, I should be giving the stuff away, do you want me to set up a custom listing for you with free shipping or do you want to continue lecturing me about Cyprus.
The EMS price I quoted anyone can google, and I used a country with the highest priced option. I did not respond to this message, nor did I buy anything from him.
Where does this little scammer get off saying I put no time and money into stealth shipping?
The only scammer here is you. I never said you put no time and money into stealth shipping, only that you were overcharging for stealth shipping by a ridiculous order of magnitude. I have never seen anyone on SR charge $50 for shipping - for ANYTHING, nevermind a few piddly Percocets. This isn't exactly 80mg Roxys we're talking about here, good lord.
If you cannot afford to pay for a vendors time to ship your product do not order. It is that simple. Get ripped off by other vendors, I could care less.
Read my feedback crybaby. You are poor and stupid, I do not need to work free to accommodate a loser like you.
I've spent $1500 in the past month on SR. I'm not poor, and I certainly can afford to pay vendors for their time and proper shipping. However, I'm not stupid either, and I won't be scammed nor bullied into paying twice the price of the product in shipping because you are trying to make money off shipping after giving discounted prices on product. That's stupid of you to even try. Did you think no one would notice? Well, you have only 35 transactions in 9 months on the Road. Clearly, people do notice, and they are not buying. It's clear who's the "loser" here.
My shipping price are too low. Expect an increase soon.
Well, the day after I posted my last post here, you changed all your listings and lowered your shipping rates, although just to $44 from $50. And you've only completed two transactions in that time. That should tell you something, although I'm sure you won't give a shit.
Anyone can fake buyer feedback through straw purchases. It's the forum feedback that really counts, and yours is terrible. Good luck with that.
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$1.99 Percocet is back
If you want to order in the 1.99-2.99 price range you must FE and make a min order of 500
Otherwise there are other non FE ordering options for those who don't want large amounts or prefer not to FE.