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Title: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: mrnicefellow on November 04, 2012, 06:46 pm
A guy I know bought a few grams of hash from the vendor Swee about a week ago, and thursday evening, the cops raided his house, made him admit to everything (no previous record, was scared shitless etc). They had brought a dog who found everything. They asked lots of questions about SR and they seemed to know exactly how much he had bought. Swee hasn't been online for six days or so, ie before the police made a house call to my friend. Just thought you all should know.

Not sure if this is the correct forum, tried to figure out which one was most appropriate, but if this is the wrong one then feel free to move it.

EDIT: both vendor and buyer are located in Sweden, btw
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: thesearstower on November 04, 2012, 07:36 pm
Here's a great reason to make your delivery address different from your home address. I have a feeling that we haven't heard the last of the 'Cops broke down my door after I ordered on SR' stories.

Sloppy security just makes LEO's job easier. If they want to bust us, let's do our best to make them work for it!  ;)

On an unrelated note, did you know that Sweden IMPORTS nearly a million tons of garbage every year? Those progressive fuckers are burning it to heat homes. They're burning it because landfills are fucking ILLEGAL in Sweden.


Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: mrnicefellow on November 04, 2012, 08:02 pm
Sure, not ordering to your home adress is fine and all, but what scared me was the fact that the cops obviously busted the vendor before knocking on my friend's door. Has law enforcement, even such a crappy one as in Sweden, become so good at tracking down SR vendors?
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: oban_18 on November 04, 2012, 08:15 pm
Are you sure the vendor was busted for the sales they did over SR, or for sales they did in-person?  If a vendor follows protocol, there's really no way LE can track a package back to them.

My guess is the vendor got busted for in-person deals, when the cops raided his place they found evidence of him selling over SR and then went after anyone he sold to in your home country (primarily to build a case against Swee.)  I can't see them chasing people outside of Sweden for buying, though.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: mrnicefellow on November 04, 2012, 08:21 pm
It is of course very possible that the Vendor was stupid enough to do sales in-person. Even so, that means that he somehow kept record of whom he sold weed to through SR. Very sloppy.

He also pointed out specifically on his profile that he didn't vacuum-pack the stuff, but that it was "safe anyway".
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: addysfromscript on November 04, 2012, 08:29 pm
It is of course very possible that the Vendor was stupid enough to do sales in-person. Even so, that means that he somehow kept record of whom he sold weed to through SR. Very sloppy.

He also pointed out specifically on his profile that he didn't vacuum-pack the stuff, but that it was "safe anyway".

In that case, I doubt the vendor was busted. If it wasn't vacuum packed, a postal inspector could probably smell that package at arms length... Ridiculous, do some research before you order.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: mrnicefellow on November 04, 2012, 08:33 pm
It wasn't me who ordered it. My friend received the package about a week before the bust, and they knew exactly how much he had ordered. A day before the bust, the vendor stopped visiting SR, and hasn't been online since.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: blueberrytree on November 04, 2012, 08:55 pm
Then obviously the vendor got busted and your friend through him, but here you really see ordering domestically isn't safe either
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: mrnicefellow on November 04, 2012, 09:02 pm
Then obviously the vendor got busted and your friend through him, but here you really see ordering domestically isn't safe either

Agreed. Especially not if the vendor is unprofessional and keeps records of buyers and so on. That's mostly why I posted this thread - to make sure vendors are more careful in the future!
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: CoolGrey on November 04, 2012, 09:51 pm
My guess would be the vendor got busted, and gave away his customers' names and addresses. This why customers should leave feedback about both the quality of the product and stealth of packaging/overall security impression from the vendor.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: addysfromscript on November 05, 2012, 12:53 am
It wasn't me who ordered it. My friend received the package about a week before the bust, and they knew exactly how much he had ordered. A day before the bust, the vendor stopped visiting SR, and hasn't been online since.

Well he still could have avoided this by not buying from a vendor who doesn't send secure packages. Not using vacuum pack should be a red flag.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: Zulu on November 05, 2012, 01:00 am
My guess would be the vendor got busted, and gave away his customers' names and addresses. This why customers should leave feedback about both the quality of the product and stealth of packaging/overall security impression from the vendor.

this, sound like this vendor was not tying up his loose ends
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: parabol on November 05, 2012, 01:53 am
A guy I know bought a few grams of hash from the vendor Swee about a week ago, and thursday evening, the cops raided his house, made him admit to everything

I don't buy this. Or you are LE trying to scare Sweden people to order, or crappy "good citizen", or this is your twisted vision of fun. Few grams are personal use in almost all countries, they wont arrest you for long and wont bust your house for it. If you confess anything, you are an idiot. Also you can buy hash everywhere besides SR, you have no reason to accept you bought it there. Even if the packaging was so bad as you claim, it got trough and the LE took a week to make the bust? that is ridiculous, they are not gonna wait a week for few grams, they are not gonna give you time to hide or transfer the goods, specially so few quantity. Also, they are both in Sweden but I doubt they are close, are you telling they conducted an iter-regional case for few grams? I frankly think you are full of shit.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: tommygun on November 05, 2012, 02:16 am
A guy I know bought a few grams of hash from the vendor Swee about a week ago, and thursday evening, the cops raided his house, made him admit to everything

I don't buy this. Or you are LE trying to scare Sweden people to order, or crappy "good citizen", or this is your twisted vision of fun. Few grams are personal use in almost all countries, they wont arrest you for long and wont bust your house for it. If you confess anything, you are an idiot. Also you can buy hash everywhere besides SR, you have no reason to accept you bought it there. Even if the packaging was so bad as you claim, it got trough and the LE took a week to make the bust? that is ridiculous, they are not gonna wait a week for few grams, they are not gonna give you time to hide or transfer the goods, specially so few quantity. Also, they are both in Sweden but I doubt they are close, are you telling they conducted an iter-regional case for few grams? I frankly think you are full of shit.

I'm not saying hes full o Shyt, but I had these exact same thoughts....
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: drganja on November 05, 2012, 05:51 am
he shouldn't of admitted to it!
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: bobhope333 on November 06, 2012, 11:40 am
I say BULLSHIT, these threads pop up from time to time and if you analyze what has been said, it doesn't add up- if the police knew how much had been ordered, they would not wait a few days- your average regular toker could smoke that amount in an afternoon- they know that, so why wait until the evidence has been smoked, plus it is a lot of police resources for a tiny amount, I don't know what Swedish Police protocols are for cannabis, but in many countries, even the UK (which is pretty strict), a few grams would only incur a caution.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: odd on November 06, 2012, 12:00 pm
Wow if you order hash or pot through the mail and the vendor tells you they don't vacuum seal and you order anyways that shits nobody elses fuck up but yours i mean how long has vacuum sealing been a standard safety precaution? Decades? sorry but no sympathy here this is a prime example of sloppy buying practices.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: fuckoffehbuddy on November 06, 2012, 03:54 pm
Wow if you order hash or pot through the mail and the vendor tells you they don't vacuum seal and you order anyways that shits nobody elses fuck up but yours i mean how long has vacuum sealing been a standard safety precaution? Decades? sorry but no sympathy here this is a prime example of sloppy buying practices.
well my order was vac sealed and had layer covering the weed itself and it still got intercepted and yeah it was domestic
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: CoolGrey on November 06, 2012, 07:07 pm
well my order was vac sealed and had layer covering the weed itself and it still got intercepted and yeah it was domestic
If it was intercepted, how did you get to know that it was vac sealed?

Even if the weed itself is properly vacuum sealed, if the packaging material comes in contact with weed, or the vender has  some hashish on his hands when touching the envelope, then dogs will still smell drugs. You have to really separate the product from the packaging.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: fuckoffehbuddy on November 06, 2012, 07:18 pm
well my order was vac sealed and had layer covering the weed itself and it still got intercepted and yeah it was domestic
If it was intercepted, how did you get to know that it was vac sealed?
probably b/c this wasn't my first order from this vendor i really doubt he would just stop vac sealing without his rating dropping
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: CoolGrey on November 06, 2012, 11:23 pm
probably b/c this wasn't my first order from this vendor i really doubt he would just stop vac sealing without his rating dropping
Okay, fair enough. Maybe the dogs picked up some traces of narcotics left on the packaging material. No way to be sure. I'm sorry you didn't get your product.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: mrnicefellow on November 07, 2012, 04:21 pm
For those of you who claim what I say is bullshit, I'm sorry but I don't really care.

My point is not to whine over someone who orders cannabis without vacuum-sealed package, the point is that the vendor was arrested and they knew whom he had sold to. The vendor Swee

( http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion.to/index.php/silkroad/user/9ed4843235)

hasn't been online since a day before my friend was busted. This is the issue at stake. Whether or not you choose to believe me is up to you, I just thought it was my duty to report this to you all.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: modziw on November 07, 2012, 04:32 pm
Seems to me the "vendor" could be LE.

Modzi
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: mrnicefellow on November 07, 2012, 04:46 pm
LE in Sweden are not allowed to sell drugs in order to bust people, not to mention that it would be a waste of resources to do it just in order to bust a small-time buyer.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: mrnicefellow on November 07, 2012, 04:53 pm
From vendor's profile:

"has been a member for 2 months
was last seen: 9 days ago
has 97.8% positive feedback
- become a fan"

Lots and lots of positive feedback from several buyers.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: Moon Fried on November 07, 2012, 07:03 pm
Maybe you guys are being a bit harsh by accusing this guy of BSing. The vendor hasn't been online for 9 days, why would a vendor who's getting great feedback just suddenly stop and then a thread like this comes out of nowhere?

Something is definitely up.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: MarleysMainMan on November 07, 2012, 07:21 pm
Sounds to me like there's more to this story than we know here...


MMM
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: sirjoss88 on November 07, 2012, 07:22 pm
what he say is true about LE, in scandinavia LE isnt alowed to incurage criminal behavor..
So they cant act like a prostitute, drug dealer etc..
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: acider on November 07, 2012, 08:14 pm
There's no way LE would setup an account and sell real drugs , also there's no way the package got intercepted then delivered and they let the buyer for a week to enjoy the product. That's ridiculous.

The only plausible scenario, if the story is real, is that the vendor got raided and police found about what he was selling and to whom, but even then it's at least impressing they got a warrant for a small buyer who maybe had already smoked the product. Though i m sure cops would get a hard-on by arresting SR members, so I can't be sure if its real or not...
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: mrnicefellow on November 07, 2012, 08:16 pm
Maybe you guys are being a bit harsh by accusing this guy of BSing. The vendor hasn't been online for 9 days, why would a vendor who's getting great feedback just suddenly stop and then a thread like this comes out of nowhere?

Something is definitely up.

Again, I don't really care if people accuse me of bullshitting or not, I might have believed the same thing myself, I don't know. Maybe it's just a question of an extremely careless vendor, but in any case, I just thought I should let you guys know about it. I'm somewhat perplexed about all this myself. Like, did the vendor leave unencrypted files on his computers with name and adress of his customers? My friend bought the stuff like 2-3 weeks ago, and the cops didn't raid his home until last thursday, ie a couple of days after the vendor in question was last seen active.

EDIT: 2-3 weeks ago, not 3-4.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: thelorax on November 07, 2012, 08:18 pm
A guy I know bought a few grams of hash from the vendor Swee about a week ago, and thursday evening, the cops raided his house, made him admit to everything (no previous record, was scared shitless etc). They had brought a dog who found everything. They asked lots of questions about SR and they seemed to know exactly how much he had bought. Swee hasn't been online for six days or so, ie before the police made a house call to my friend. Just thought you all should know.

Not sure if this is the correct forum, tried to figure out which one was most appropriate, but if this is the wrong one then feel free to move it.

EDIT: both vendor and buyer are located in Sweden, btw

>MADE HIM
>ADMIT
>EVERYTHING

that guy u know told on himself and hes a fool...

WHEN THE COPS COME KEEP YOUR  MOUTH SHUT.. DONT DENY DONT TALK DO SAY ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR AM I UNDER ARREST RIGHT WHEN HE SAYS YES HE TELLS U YOUR RIGHTS AND U ASK FOR A LAWYER THATS IT...

DO NOT TALK TO COPS .. THEY ONLY HAVE WHAT U TELL THEM GUYS .....

IF WE KNEW THE VENDER IT MIGHT HELP
IF HES NEW HE MIGHT BE A SNITCH
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: mrnicefellow on November 07, 2012, 08:25 pm
>MADE HIM
>ADMIT
>EVERYTHING

that guy u know told on himself and hes a fool...

WHEN THE COPS COME KEEP YOUR  MOUTH SHUT.. DONT DENY DONT TALK DO SAY ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR AM I UNDER ARREST RIGHT WHEN HE SAYS YES HE TELLS U YOUR RIGHTS AND U ASK FOR A LAWYER THATS IT...

DO NOT TALK TO COPS .. THEY ONLY HAVE WHAT U TELL THEM GUYS .....

IF WE KNEW THE VENDER IT MIGHT HELP
IF HES NEW HE MIGHT BE A SNITCH

Thanks for your input!

Next time you feel like providing helpful advice:
1) Don't miss the point of the entire thread
2) Don't express yourself with the eloquence of a dyslexic three-year old
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: thelorax on November 07, 2012, 08:31 pm
>MADE HIM
>ADMIT
>EVERYTHING

that guy u know told on himself and hes a fool...

WHEN THE COPS COME KEEP YOUR  MOUTH SHUT.. DONT DENY DONT TALK DO SAY ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR AM I UNDER ARREST RIGHT WHEN HE SAYS YES HE TELLS U YOUR RIGHTS AND U ASK FOR A LAWYER THATS IT...

DO NOT TALK TO COPS .. THEY ONLY HAVE WHAT U TELL THEM GUYS .....

IF WE KNEW THE VENDER IT MIGHT HELP
IF HES NEW HE MIGHT BE A SNITCH

Thanks for your input!

Next time you feel like providing helpful advice:
1) Don't miss the point of the entire thread
2) Don't express yourself with the eloquence of a dyslexic three-year old

ok.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: mrnicefellow on November 07, 2012, 08:34 pm
>MADE HIM
>ADMIT
>EVERYTHING

that guy u know told on himself and hes a fool...

WHEN THE COPS COME KEEP YOUR  MOUTH SHUT.. DONT DENY DONT TALK DO SAY ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR AM I UNDER ARREST RIGHT WHEN HE SAYS YES HE TELLS U YOUR RIGHTS AND U ASK FOR A LAWYER THATS IT...

DO NOT TALK TO COPS .. THEY ONLY HAVE WHAT U TELL THEM GUYS .....

IF WE KNEW THE VENDER IT MIGHT HELP
IF HES NEW HE MIGHT BE A SNITCH

Thanks for your input!

Next time you feel like providing helpful advice:
1) Don't miss the point of the entire thread
2) Don't express yourself with the eloquence of a dyslexic three-year old

ok.

:)

Not saying you don't have a point, though. Admitting stuff to the cops is indeed stupid!
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: Orinoko Flow on November 07, 2012, 09:13 pm
BS .   Does your friend live in sweden also? Or have interpol got involved over a hash deal..
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: mrnicefellow on November 07, 2012, 11:19 pm
BS .   Does your friend live in sweden also? Or have interpol got involved over a hash deal..

Yes he does. BS or no, I guess Swedes will read about it in the newspapers sooner or later.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: city on November 08, 2012, 01:11 pm
This is kinda concerning. My hunch is that customs and Swedish police is focused on swedes using SR/BTC. So if this bust is true, I am not surprised that they cracked down on your friend even though the amount was small, since Swedish law has zero tolerance for any narcotics, and if the objective indeed is to attack SR users the amount of drugs is irrelevant

I'm not aware of what/if Swee offered any other products than weed, or how he got hold of his products himself. Might it be the case that he re-sold products and/or purchased something else  internationally on SR? If that is the case a package could have been intercepted by customs and the police got involved somehow. leading up to an arrest.




Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: 12345 on November 08, 2012, 02:43 pm
BS .   Does your friend live in sweden also? Or have interpol got involved over a hash deal..

Yes he does. BS or no, I guess Swedes will read about it in the newspapers sooner or later.

how much grams are a "few" to you? I mean it can be a wide range and arrested for having hash at my house... mhh I dont know that have to be much or packed in small pieces for vending, when they find it.

I am not living in sweden but my feeling says it was more then 2oz, right?

(havnt read ALL of the thread)
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: mschen on November 09, 2012, 03:16 am
I'm kinda surprised cops would try to bust small time buyers.  Don't they have better stuff to do?
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: CoolGrey on November 09, 2012, 10:50 pm
I'm kinda surprised cops would try to bust small time buyers.  Don't they have better stuff to do?
They'll screw over anybody they get delivered on a silver plate, no matter how unimportant or victimless the 'crime'. The more people they get in jail, the better their statistics look. Many even take pleasure in it and have zero regard for the lives and well-being of the individuals involved.

That's one of the reasons I derive pleasure from helping people improve their digital security. Sabotaging their attempts at ruining people's lives.
Title: Re: Friend got arrested after buying weed from SR
Post by: mrnicefellow on November 12, 2012, 04:05 pm
This is kinda concerning. My hunch is that customs and Swedish police is focused on swedes using SR/BTC. So if this bust is true, I am not surprised that they cracked down on your friend even though the amount was small, since Swedish law has zero tolerance for any narcotics, and if the objective indeed is to attack SR users the amount of drugs is irrelevant

I'm not aware of what/if Swee offered any other products than weed, or how he got hold of his products himself. Might it be the case that he re-sold products and/or purchased something else  internationally on SR? If that is the case a package could have been intercepted by customs and the police got involved somehow. leading up to an arrest.

Yes. I didn't want to name the thread "SR vendor + customer busted" since I'm not sure Swee was actually arrested by swedish LE. It seems pretty damn likely that he was, but I wanted to go on just what actual facts I had.

How Swee was arrested is up for speculation. Maybe customs got their eyes on him when he purchased what he later sold on to other customers, maybe he made RL deals and the police caught him etc, but the big mystery is:

How come the customer was arrested at least a couple of weeks after he bought the stuff? It does seem strange that Swee would keep a file with records of all his customers (unless maybe he printed out address stickers in Word or something). If that wasn't the case, how could the LE catch the customer?