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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Immortally on March 22, 2013, 05:04 am

Title: first time MDMA
Post by: Immortally on March 22, 2013, 05:04 am
Hello I ordered 1 gram mdma crystals and some mephedrone  from the kindest of  vendors here!!!
I started to snif mephedrone but didn,t hit me enough,so i snif MdMA behind it,it,s just at the moment
i,m feeling nausea and body tingling restless fainting  and circulatory disorders,so i can not say i feel enormous good or bad
very strange feeling,.so a heavy trip i can assure you that...Also had strange feelings as if my head  and legs are half dead ..so it,s all new..
I think i took too much!!!and the combi  meph + mdma  coused i,m feeling unpleasant as well,so what to do to come as quick as possible to earth??I,m feel if i,m tripping..
pffffff very heavy experience lucky enough i had 50 gr oxazepam,wow if this is mdma is something totally different than pills.
I,m in a totally different world intense..now i feel a little better,but before i could fainted at any time
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: DiamondSky on March 22, 2013, 05:36 am
Yeah no need to mix these two drugs especially if you haven't done them before.

What you described is pretty typical come up for MDMA though. Most of the time the first time people take it they can get a little anxious and almost always if they do the thought that pops in their head is "Did I take too much?"

In the future you will want to do MDMA alone and measure out your dose. I personally don't recommend snorting MDMA based on years of playing with the stuff it just seems to waste more of it than all the other ROAs's. Nothing wrong with snorting, lots of people do, just personal preference.

Most people start with an oral dose of between 100-120mg and that seems to get them where they are going. You'll still have the come up thing next time but since you know what it feels like it won't be nearly as bad. For most people, if it gets a little rough, they will puke at that point and don't get all scared if you do. About a second after puking the world turns amazing.

Depending on how much mephedrone you did, you may or may not be able to fully enjoy all the goodness of MDMA so you might want to wait a few days and give just MDMA a go on it's own.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: bealzebobs on March 22, 2013, 10:12 am
Snorting is definately a waste, the bioavailability is of MDMA is much higher when eaten. Its not exactly pleasant to snort either! I agree with DiamondSky  about the 100-120mg dose. I think the threshold dose is around that mark. I have a lot of experience with MDMA and can tell that alot of people are sick whilst coming up, even experienced users. Those first few times with the drug are an amazing experience, wish I could go back! Enjoy
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: MDUK on March 22, 2013, 11:17 am
Snorting is definately a waste, the bioavailability is of MDMA is much higher when eaten. Its not exactly pleasant to snort either! I agree with DiamondSky  about the 100-120mg dose. I think the threshold dose is around that mark. I have a lot of experience with MDMA and can tell that alot of people are sick whilst coming up, even experienced users. Those first few times with the drug are an amazing experience, wish I could go back! Enjoy
I don't know about that being a "threshold" dose.
I'm quite a big guy, and when I want to test out one of my new batches but still have shit that needs doing, I'll have like 70-80mg and that has a very very marked effect.
It's not particularly worth it at those doses, so regardless of your size you're going to want more than that, but still, the "threshold dose" for most people is probably like 40mg.
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: bealzebobs on March 22, 2013, 01:22 pm
Threshold was the wrong word to use, I should have said worthwhile dosage instead!
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: valakki on March 22, 2013, 04:25 pm
bad combo.

 meph can give a trippy psychotic feeling. i saw ghosts once after a heavy meph session!
 it can make your limbs cold and sometimes turn them blue. fucks up the blood flow!

MDMA is not too active snorted. it mostly has a dopamine feeling that way. stimulation. the loved up serotonin space is not really present this way.

Mixing two stimulants is never a good idea. Blood Pressure Problems, Risk of Heart Attack, Vasiconstriction, Confusion, Paranoia... etc....

Wait a week, eyeball a 100 mg dose of MDMA by dividing the gram into ten even piles (gonna be less because you used it already)
And eat it.

For meph.... Same.... Just don't mix it these chems....
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: catfishinmysocks on March 23, 2013, 12:59 pm
I don't know about that being a "threshold" dose.
I'm quite a big guy, and when I want to test out one of my new batches but still have shit that needs doing, I'll have like 70-80mg and that has a very very marked effect.
It's not particularly worth it at those doses, so regardless of your size you're going to want more than that, but still, the "threshold dose" for most people is probably like 40mg.

I think he was mixing up terms, and meant starter.
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: MDUK on March 23, 2013, 03:12 pm
Threshold was the wrong word to use, I should have said worthwhile dosage instead!
Oh yeah, well in that case I agree ;)

A worthwhile dose for a first-timer is probably 1.5-1.8mg/Kg
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: catfishinmysocks on March 23, 2013, 05:15 pm
Threshold was the wrong word to use, I should have said worthwhile dosage instead!
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Oh yeah, well in that case I agree ;)

A worthwhile dose for a first-timer is probably 1.5-1.8mg/Kg

Ah :)
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: Immortally on March 23, 2013, 07:22 pm
bad combo.

 meph can give a trippy psychotic feeling. i saw ghosts once after a heavy meph session!
 it can make your limbs cold and sometimes turn them blue. fucks up the blood flow!

MDMA is not too active snorted. it mostly has a dopamine feeling that way. stimulation. the loved up serotonin space is not really present this way.

Mixing two stimulants is never a good idea. Blood Pressure Problems, Risk of Heart Attack, Vasiconstriction, Confusion, Paranoia... etc....

Wait a week, eyeball a 100 mg dose of MDMA by dividing the gram into ten even piles (gonna be less because you used it already)
And eat it.

For meph.... Same.... Just don't mix it these chems....

Thank you guys for the info if i must believe you(150mg) i took too much and  for sure mix up these two chems is a bad combo
it fucked up my blood flow my legs turn into purple blue :o but after i took the mdma
next time i eat the mdma and not the  whole gram (spreading):-[ lucky i,m still alive ;)
I was too impulsive while the forum and clear-net has an overdose of information, and now I have to take the consequences , heavy recovery I
Should no better but sometimes we don,t behave rational:-(
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: lssb2132 on March 24, 2013, 09:13 am
I wouldn't reccomend mixing for first timers but what's done is done haha. As others have said the anxiety can really be an issue(only during the come up I've found) for mdma. The first time I took it I thought I was actually going to die and spent 10-15 minutes googling what is a dangerous dose(even only on 100mg) rofl.
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: Ben on March 25, 2013, 02:52 am
You should always be considerate if you suffer from anxiety and take drugs.

Personally i have not find that mdma makes it any worse, though cannabis does when taken at the wrong time. You should be careful with taking new drugs in general though, there are many that aren't a good idea if you are suffering from panic disorder or something similar.
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: MrBing2012 on March 25, 2013, 06:34 am
Lol yeah just mix some random drugs you've never tried before and see what happens....
You are definitely fucked in the head lol
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: sleepyeyes2k2 on March 25, 2013, 10:55 pm
This is good info, because I'm thinking of trying MDMA.  I usually just do benzos, but I want to try "up" instead of "down".  I wonder if taking zofran or phenergan with the MDMA would relieve the retching urge.  What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: MDUK on March 25, 2013, 11:26 pm
This is good info, because I'm thinking of trying MDMA.  I usually just do benzos, but I want to try "up" instead of "down".  I wonder if taking zofran or phenergan with the MDMA would relieve the retching urge.  What are your thoughts?
Retching urge?

Just drop the MDMA on its own, don't spoil the experience ;)

Dose based on your bodyweight, for a first-time dose I'd say 1.5mg/Kg is a good starting point.
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: Immortally on March 25, 2013, 11:51 pm
Lol yeah just mix some random drugs you've never tried before and see what happens....
You are definitely fucked in the head lol

thanks for the compliment ,wrong  I'm  slightly eccentric mr saint 2012 :P
and pls read well before you judge,im not new too Mephedrone,and i didn,t asked you to come here and give your stupid opinion.
previous ppl are kind and helpful  you aren,t..for me everything is clear now.,but this thread could be helpful for others.!!
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: Immortally on March 26, 2013, 12:21 am
This is good info, because I'm thinking of trying MDMA.  I usually just do benzos, but I want to try "up" instead of "down".  I wonder if taking zofran or phenergan with the MDMA would relieve the retching urge.  What are your thoughts?

Hi Be careful whit mdma if you always use downers,my experience is not standard but after i had to take a couple of days downers (oxazepam) to calm down or to be able to sleep...
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: Cynosure on March 26, 2013, 01:03 am
Hello I ordered 1 gram mdma crystals and some mephedrone  from the kindest of  vendors here!!!
I started to snif mephedrone but didn,t hit me enough,so i snif MdMA behind it,it,s just at the moment
i,m feeling nausea and body tingling restless fainting  and circulatory disorders,so i can not say i feel enormous good or bad
very strange feeling,.so a heavy trip i can assure you that...Also had strange feelings as if my head  and legs are half dead ..so it,s all new..
I think i took too much!!!and the combi  meph + mdma  coused i,m feeling unpleasant as well,so what to do to come as quick as possible to earth??I,m feel if i,m tripping..
pffffff very heavy experience lucky enough i had 50 gr oxazepam,wow if this is mdma is something totally different than pills.
I,m in a totally different world intense..now i feel a little better,but before i could fainted at any time

Hmm.. are you weighing our your substances and dosing responsibly or just sticking your nose in them and inhaling until you're fucked up?

If the latter, I'd highly suggest weighing them out.  You'll be able to dose properly and feel comfortable with your highs.
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: Immortally on March 26, 2013, 01:31 am


Hmm.. are you weighing our your substances and dosing responsibly or just sticking your nose in them and inhaling until you're fucked up?

If the latter, I'd highly suggest weighing them out.  You'll be able to dose properly and feel comfortable with your highs.
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huh?why you ppl don,t read well i already told i was impulsive,so no i didn,t dosing  responsible ,Do I get now the death penalty??
my goodness are you all saints or what? We talk about drugs aren,t we and that isn,t healthy anyway!! I know that i must dose properly in the future for my own sake.! it seems if you show some vulnerable behaviour everybody falls over you and knows it better!!
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: MrBing2012 on March 26, 2013, 05:37 pm
I know that i must dose properly in the future for my own sake

Lol glad you finally figured that out.
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: Immortally on March 26, 2013, 11:18 pm
I know that i must dose properly in the future for my own sake

Lol glad you finally figured that out.

Mr Saint is here again huh why?what do you want to achieve? You never drink too much ,o no you always dose properly boring/ / loser  Thanks for the -2 karma..pathetic obedient person
I wish people like you were ants I could easily kill them :) ;D lol   hahahaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: MrBing2012 on March 27, 2013, 05:01 am
I know that i must dose properly in the future for my own sake

Lol glad you finally figured that out.

Mr Saint is here again huh why?what do you want to achieve? You never drink too much ,o no you always dose properly boring/ / loser  Thanks for the -2 karma..pathetic obedient person
I wish people like you were ants I could easily kill them :) ;D lol   hahahaaaaaaaaa
Lol yep that is exactly what I do....I research and dose responsibly.
I know you wish you could kill me but I'm gonna live a long and healthy life, unlike you who I assume will die of an overdose in the near future.

Your just encouraging other little kids to act irresponsibly with drugs, and I know for a fact you don't have to be irresponsible with drugs to have a shitload of fun.

Also you can thank some other smart people for the negative karma, but I'll take the credit if you want.
Title: Re: first time MDMA
Post by: hexokinase on March 27, 2013, 05:03 am
Don't ask for advice if you don't want to hear advice. Sounds like you almost lost your limbs buddy. Some people are more sensitive to certain drugs than others. My gf's ex had a large piece of his legs removed because the muscle was dying (perhaps could have happened to you since they were turning blue) in response to some MDMA. For whatever reason, he had that reaction. I believe he had even done it before but something happened that time and he was lucky to be alive.

Take drugs seriously even if you're getting silly. Take advice of veterans seriously.