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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Holland_SR on January 05, 2012, 10:42 pm
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Some people seem to be worried about deliveries. A lot of delays have sorted themselves out by now, but there are a few left. Compared to the amount we sell it is still a small percentage but enough that we look into it carefully.
Maybe a lucky postman managed to intercept a days load, I am trying to figure it out as best as I can, we try not to keep too much data but we should have enough for this. But just to be sure we paused selling and changed the locations of sending, the envelope and the label.
The unrest is also a result of selling without escrow, it makes people run for the forum just a bit quicker than they normally would when they feel protected by the escrow resolution center. Maybe we will go back to using escrow for buyers with a good reputation.
At the moment we have a limited stock of PP, so quick resends are difficult. One thing nobody needs to doubt is that we do our part as best as anyone can. Sending is always a risk, especially sending bulky weed in larger quantities.
Also, after two weeks of limited access here I need to answer a lot of messages, so please be patient, we will sort it out.
Holland
ps. We will be selling hash starting soon, the best there is!
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Glad to hear you're okay.
Never doubted you Holland, one of the most professional and reliable sellers in our community.
What type(s) of hash will you be offering? :D
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nice to see you're back. ;)
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..thank goodness...still haven't lost the hope that Holland will come back and clear the situation. We should have patience with Holland...
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Good to hear. Look forward to hearing from you on the main site soon.
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Always trusted Holland, so I was never too worried. Looking forward to more stability in the postal services again as we enter the new year.
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Puh, good to see that you're back. I hope there are not too many messages on the main-site to answer.
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Am I glad to see you!
I've sent you a few messages under the same username on the Marketplace
I ordered 10g and you had it down for being in the post office on the 5th of December
Being the 7th of January now, and me in the UK, do you still believe this could resolve itself or is it a lost cause? I'd sure appreciate an answer either here, or to my PM on the marketplace, but I understand you must be backlogged like crazy now.
As you said lol, I finalized early so was worrying a little.
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Reposting my message from the other thread apologies for those having to endure it a second time
Holland got in touch honoured their 50% refund and has offered to resend rest of loss when new PP in stock. A very fair resolution so I am a happy girl once more.
I was very happy with all aspects of my first order and respect the way he has dealt with it since coming back on the forums so look forward to using him again.
Plus I really dug the Power Plant!
Now I'm here I am going to do my best to contribute to the forums more…. I already broke my first new years resolution so I need a new one ha ha
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Hey man why would you read my messages but choose not to reply?.......
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Still waiting for Holland to get in touch. Will report back when I know more! :)
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Why don't you answer me? I'm waiting since the end of november and your last answer was 20 days ago...
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great to see your back thought my 200euro was gone
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Still waiting for a reply myself......
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Also still waiting for either the product (10g A-Haze), a full refund or even an answer to one of the messages I have sent over the last 40 days!
I'm afraid that opening a thread that says or proofs nothing, doesn't cut it and still has the signs of a scam.
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i'm waiting now since exactly 3 weeks and still nothing. i also messaged Holland one week ago - no reply 'till now.
i think it takes time for Holland to sort all that out, so i will wait and keep you all informed.
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think im waitin about 6 weeks and im getting kind of sick of waiting. it shouldnt take this long for him to reply to the messages he has surely ?? i havent had a message from him since the 1 saying he had got payment
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It is so fucked up, now he's offline again for 4 days. I thought he will answer the messages, but now, it seems like he had no more weed for selling, so he grabbed what he could and get away or something like that... I hope it isn't like that, but to say that he'll answer the messages, and then NOT to answer the messages, is a little bit suspicious...
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i starting to think that aswell can some1 that mods or runs silkroad not step in and ask him to contact his buyers that are still waitin for a message never mind the product that he has NEVER SENT OUT.thanks to holland i think il go back to using my MOMS instead of here coz its 2 risky here to many scammer im thinking now
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Been waiting since mid December. Hoping for some kind of refund or resend.
Holland, please keep us updated on the forums if you don't have time to answer messages.
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It's been over a week since I sent my message which Holland hasn't even looked at, and he hasn't logged in for 4 days. I'm not happy at all and am rapidly losing patience. Sort it out, Holland.
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It's been over a week since I sent my message which Holland hasn't even looked at, and he hasn't logged in for 4 days. I'm not happy at all and am rapidly losing patience. Sort it out, Holland.
Ditto to that mate! had mine ordered real early December, he hasn't been online again for like 3-4 days, I saw he read all my messages but chose not to reply? I'm due either £60 or 10g of PP or something higher quality would do after all the waiting he's put us through..
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think its safe to say holland is a scammin mother >:(
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6 days no sign in, so around a week
God damn Holland
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It's a shame...
Lost the Hope that we will get a refund or any reaction by him. No Sign In for 7 days...no answer, he don't give a fuck about us waiting people.
Holland, I'm really disappointed and had never thought that you will operate this way. Thought I have found a honest businessman with code of ethical....
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Still getting messages from people receiving 25g+ orders to the UK that were ordered beginning of Dec.
That makes it pretty impossible to consider later orders that haven't arrived yet as lost. Given that the orders that haven't arrived are spread pretty randomly over destination countries, the problem must have been in the sending country, Belgium.
Belgium has a weird system where 'standard' sized enveloped are treated separately from non-standard ones, not just in tariff but also in delivery. That might have something to do with it as heavier ones are delayed more than light ones.
Anyway, everything was sent, so either it will arrive, or someone is out to get us specifically, aargh. I am betting on the first, but being extra careful just in case of the latter, definitely no resending right now.
Our feedback fell back three points. That's is not nice, but nothing compared to what it would have done if we were really out to scam people.. I haven't responded to many emails yet because I want to be sure about what is happening before I resolve things.
Holland
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Well, i hope you'll sort out things as soon as possible, my experience with you as a seller is excellent (great price, awesome product very fast shipping time), i'd really love to be able to buy again some powerplant from you :)
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Oh, that's what I wanted...a reaction..thanks.
It's a impertinence of the belgium postal system to hold the envelopes.. Is there no other option for further orders to send it with Prio, Express or something like that? From Netherlands the package took "only" 7 days, that's absolutely acceptable...but more than 3,4,5 weeks from Belgium, for not even 1000km, not.
sry Holland for prejudging you, it seems to be that its not your fault... but I'm starting to worry about my money, and I think I'm not the only one here..
Would be really nice if you give us short Information, in what countries packages arrive, have/haven't arrived successful its destinations.
Trembling uncertainty is the most fuckin' Thing, when your "money" is that long on the way...
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Come on, please answer my messages. =/ I'm waiting since the end of november for my 10g of Powerplant, and in the last 2 weeks I successfully received mails/packages from france, netherlands, austria, UK and poland, so i don't think the package from belgium is still on it's way. =/
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Come on, please answer my messages. =/ I'm waiting since the end of november for my 10g of Powerplant, and in the last 2 weeks I successfully received mails/packages from france, netherlands, austria, UK and poland, so i don't think the package from belgium is still on it's way. =/
This is exactly my situation, even down to waiting for 10g. It's pretty surprising to me to hear about orders from the start of Dec still arriving, but mine was sent at least a week before that, and I've had another order from France sent the week before last that arrived extremely quickly. If your order hasn't arrived, sent getting on nearly two months ago, I can't imagine it ever will.
Can you at least answer our messages on the main site with some sort of acknowledgement about what you might be planning to do about our orders? Whenever you aren't on there for an extended period of time or go on and ignore messages, everyone's thoughts gravitate to the worst.
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Still getting messages from people receiving 25g+ orders to the UK that were ordered beginning of Dec.
That makes it pretty impossible to consider later orders that haven't arrived yet as lost. Given that the orders that haven't arrived are spread pretty randomly over destination countries, the problem must have been in the sending country, Belgium.
Belgium has a weird system where 'standard' sized enveloped are treated separately from non-standard ones, not just in tariff but also in delivery. That might have something to do with it as heavier ones are delayed more than light ones.
Anyway, everything was sent, so either it will arrive, or someone is out to get us specifically, aargh. I am betting on the first, but being extra careful just in case of the latter, definitely no resending right now.
Our feedback fell back three points. That's is not nice, but nothing compared to what it would have done if we were really out to scam people.. I haven't responded to many emails yet because I want to be sure about what is happening before I resolve things.
Holland
Yeah well then why ihaven't you replied to any of my messages on the market? you've read every single one of them, which means, you chose to not respond..
I want a reply man, and a refund, I highly doubt my package is ever going to turn up now
I trusted you and finalized, looks like I would have been better not to now!
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its bein well over a month now holland ur just takin the piss i wont my money back 200euro is to much for u to be fuckin with over christmas u really need to sort this out coz my package IS NOT COMMIN AND HAS NOT BEING SENT I HAVE RECIEVED 3 LETTERS FROM A FRIEND IN BELGIUM since the new year
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Same for me, i want my money€ back or receive my amnesia haze...
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Holland, for 1 month you haven't even opened any of the 7 messages I wrote you.
Please fix this problem ASAP and contact me to discuss a refund or a resend.
(order sent in november)
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Now he's a normal user...
Hope this will be resolved, it's obviously been intercepted, theres no chance of delivery after now...
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I would be really surprised if he makes refunds ... With all the shit going on...
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OH Jesus mother of God
His account is no longer a seller account, REAL GOOD SIGN..........
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hm. I'm still seeing his reputations, his description on the profile.....
...haven't recieved my 25g. How long do we have to wait until a refund makes sense in your opinion Holland? Cant imagine that a prio-letter takes that long... something went definitely wrong, but I'm not quite sure what. Either the post takes that long, a postman caught my and other packages, customs have seized or in the worst case, Holland hasn't sent it on it's way...
Don't know what I should say anymore. Would be pleased to get an adequate refund....:-/
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Solution N°1 : Holland is gone, nothing to do...
Solution N°2 : Holland's got a lot a refunds to do and a reputation to fix if he is still planning on selling...
Hope he chooses N°2 !
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Holland, I see you are active on the forums again.
Are you going to compensate us who never got anything when you start selling again?
I'm very sure there is no chance it will arrive now after more than a month.
I hope things are going to be resolved soon.
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I really dont think he/they scam you. That would make no sense at all. Holland could have made a better cut scamming with the quiet guys that received their orders. That just doesnt fit in a scammer profile.
One thing could happened, perhaps the postal service mentioned their packaging and just had an eye on this specific packs.
Or they got busted and now it isnt holland anymore.
I hope he comes back and sells his lovely weed again. would jump in. for sure.
just my 2 ct.
take care
no_pain
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I really dont think he/they scam you. That would make no sense at all. Holland could have made a better cut scamming with the quiet guys that received their orders. That just doesnt fit in a scammer profile.
One thing could happened, perhaps the postal service mentioned their packaging and just had an eye on this specific packs.
Or they got busted and now it isnt holland anymore.
I agree and I hope this all gets sorted out real soon but there are quite a few posts now from people with messages that have been ignored for over a month - I think I last sent one in the first week of January that has had no reply yet.
I think it's the lack of communication with customers (not just profile/forum posts) that is getting to people.
I'd also think if it was an imposter (very much doubt it tbh!) they'd would want to keep up communications as much as possible to gather as much information as they could...
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I really dont think he/they scam you. That would make no sense at all. Holland could have made a better cut scamming with the quiet guys that received their orders. That just doesnt fit in a scammer profile.
One thing could happened, perhaps the postal service mentioned their packaging and just had an eye on this specific packs.
Or they got busted and now it isnt holland anymore.
I hope he comes back and sells his lovely weed again. would jump in. for sure.
just my 2 ct.
take care
no_pain
At this point its the not getting back//replying to returning customers!
Does he really think he can just ignore all these people? even if, those people got weed and or 100% refund, they would still be MIGHTY displeased they got ignored for so long
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just bumpin this to keep holland in the spot light
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still no response over here. Holland also hasn't read my message yet. i still think everything will turn out to be good.
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same here. No responding to sent messages. :-(
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I just hope Holland did not get busted... And to all u guys crying about not delivered packets... It's no car-part that are being shipped. If Holland would want to scam you, Holland would sell you some CFD, ETF or Silicon Implants or artificial cheese :P
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lol,
With the shit that happened with CantFeelMyFace, we are prepared to see any kind of shit like this... It's been a too long time since HOLLAND is gone! I think that the only thing that could have happened is scam or bust.
I assume that we can say goodbye to our lost orders and move on to something else... :(
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He's online on SR everyday, but he never reads the messages? Last message came in 1 month ago, hurray... In 4 days, my payment is 2 months ago (finalized early -.-), and I don't think that I will ever see my 10g of Powerplant...
I also don't think that he's getting busted, because the cops WOULD read all the message IF they have the password to his account to get online everyday. Second: He was degraded to a normal buyer-account for a little time, then he got upgraded again to a seller-account, so I think he had a conversation with the admins...
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BUMP IT!
This is an official appeal to all the people who are waiting for their order:
Bump it 'til we have got a refund or money back. Can't accept the fact that I got ripped off 200€. It's much money for me and I cannot accept such a behavior of Holland. It's a matter of principle.
He could take a look at the forum and reassure the interested parties, if he would give a fuck about the satisfaction of us.
Won't stop 'til I've got a msg, refund or money back by him....cannot rest, will not rest!
BUMP IT!
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BUMP IT!
This is an official appeal to all the people who are waiting for their order:
Bump it 'til we have got a refund or money back. Can't accept the fact that I got ripped off 200€. It's much money for me and I cannot accept such a behavior of Holland. It's a matter of principle.
He could take a look at the forum and reassure the interested parties, if he would give a fuck about the satisfaction of us.
Won't stop 'til I've got a msg, refund or money back by him....cannot rest, will not rest!
BUMP IT!
fair enough.
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BUMP IT!
This is an official appeal to all the people who are waiting for their order:
Bump it 'til we have got a refund or money back. Can't accept the fact that I got ripped off 200€. It's much money for me and I cannot accept such a behavior of Holland. It's a matter of principle.
He could take a look at the forum and reassure the interested parties, if he would give a fuck about the satisfaction of us.
Won't stop 'til I've got a msg, refund or money back by him....cannot rest, will not rest!
BUMP IT!
I'm still waiting for either 10g, a refund, let alone a reply
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BUMP IT!
Won't stop 'til I've got a msg, refund or money back by him....cannot rest, will not rest!
BUMP IT!
I'm still waiting for either 10g, a refund, let alone a reply
5g here no replies since money changed hands.. (34 days now? something like that)
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bump he owes me 20gs >:(
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*BUMP*
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Come on Holland, say something. -.- This is a totally fucked up situation...
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im in the same boat as you guys, 20g amnesia ordered in december. no arrival no answers
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Come on Holland, say something. -.- This is a totally fucked up situation...
i agree to that!
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*push*
Come on Holland, say something. -.- This is a totally fucked up situation...
:-\
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BUMP again, we should try get a rough number of how many of us are in the same situation
I.e., bought and paid for be it 5g or 50g, finalized early, and now have no product, or a refund but worst of all haven't got a single reply from Holland
Seems like there's a lot of us
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BUMP again, we should try get a rough number of how many of us are in the same situation
I.e., bought and paid for be it 5g or 50g, finalized early, and now have no product, or a refund but worst of all haven't got a single reply from Holland
Seems like there's a lot of us
i ordered one month ago. finalized early. no product, no money, no reply. i start thinking, that i lost more than 400 $
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Yeah well screw Holland
Shows no respect to buyers.
There are some promising new people on the EU Block! :D
Check out OrganicBuds who has some great introductory offers right now and ships from West Europe:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/135830
wps who has PowerPlant and I believe open to custom listings etc. in Germany:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/111006
Planta another new NL based seller interesting selection of strains:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/72200
Baroso another German based vendor who has a nice selection of very fairly priced outdoor grown buds:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/138027
Of course these are new sellers, so for now stick to escrow.
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sound not bad..:-) OrganicBud seems to be professional... But I've already did an order from Djabbar.
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*bump*
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It can also be that he keeps the money (Bitcoins) just to buy a new vendor account. If i think about how much Bitcoins i payed for 10g Powerplant (~37 Bitcoins 2 months ago) and compare it to the price of a new vendor account of today (~25 Bitcoins), then it's REALLY possible, also because i'm not the only one that gets no message etc. =/
It's also no problem that the new account won't have any ratings, because weed-sellers in the EU are always wanted, so it's no problem to get new customers.
I don't think that anyone of us will ever get a message from the Holland-account. Whatever... BUMP!
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It can also be that he keeps the money (Bitcoins) just to buy a new vendor account...
thought the same..:-/
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Holland, make a move dude
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Wow. New to this site, and I admit that reading these threads from start to finish is intriguing. Don't get me wrong, I feel terrible for all of you who got ripped off, but it is sometimes good to read these threads just to pick up on things for future reference in regards to not getting scammed again.
Pretty sad that someone would do this just for weed... AND during the holidays?! Love how he said "we have hash coming, best in the world" What a goof. I am not vendor, but I used to be employed at a mail order marijuana business here in Canada, this makes me sick. I am going to see if someone I used to know will sell some of his shit on here, he has a MOM business, but I don't think giving the addy out on here is cool for the parties involved.
Karma will catch up to him. Karma will also catch up to all of you too, pretty soon you will all have that energy that you put fourth with the best of intentions come back to you in some way. Sorry for your loss, I know I would be flipping out. Just know that many of us feel for you. Peace.
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Wow. New to this site, and I admit that reading these threads from start to finish is intriguing. Don't get me wrong, I feel terrible for all of you who got ripped off, but it is sometimes good to read these threads just to pick up on things for future reference in regards to not getting scammed again.
Pretty sad that someone would do this just for weed... AND during the holidays?! Love how he said "we have hash coming, best in the world" What a goof. I am not vendor, but I used to be employed at a mail order marijuana business here in Canada, this makes me sick. I am going to see if someone I used to know will sell some of his shit on here, he has a MOM business, but I don't think giving the addy out on here is cool for the parties involved.
Karma will catch up to him. Karma will also catch up to all of you too, pretty soon you will all have that energy that you put fourth with the best of intentions come back to you in some way. Sorry for your loss, I know I would be flipping out. Just know that many of us feel for you. Peace.
nice words, thanks dude..:-)
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Karma will catch up to him. Karma will also catch up to all of you too, pretty soon you will all have that energy that you put fourth with the best of intentions come back to you in some way. Sorry for your loss, I know I would be flipping out. Just know that many of us feel for you. Peace.
Nice words dude and a nice way of looking at things. I believe karma will catch up to him if he never sorts us out but I always forget that karma goes both ways and that it can come back positively. Here's hoping....
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I can only speculate as to why Holland would scam like this, however they chose the right time to do it. Once he/she stopped using escrow and began the UK sale on the Powerplant, the bitcoins would have been pouring in, and thanks to the Christmas season undelivered packages would simply appear delayed allowing for more sales before things looked a little fishy. Yet the money Holland would've made doing this can't have been particularly significant compared to the rest of his vending history here. I'm guessing Holland needed the money quickly for one reason or another. If this really was a Belgium postal fuck up, then that's a pretty severe fuck up that I find quite hard to believe although it's not out of the realms of possibility. Since Holland has said on their profile they're using delivery confirmation to catch out scammers, perhaps he/she could provide some of these tracking codes to buyers to at least prove he posted something, otherwise I think we've learned an expensive lesson that you should always use escrow when you're buying things with bitcoins, even if it's a top seller.
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*bump*
come on holland! i'm counting on you.
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last seen: 4 days ago.... I don't think that he will come back. Maybe with a new seller account...but not with the old one.
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Just another post
To remind us all
Holland has still left a sea of people with NO refund, NO reply and NO order
This was of course not long after he introduced a new policy to finalize early..
Going on 2 months now.
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He is a fucker, i really believe that he has got a new account...
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*bump*
still nothing 'till now... >:(
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If Holland tries to get back to business with a new account, he'll probably get busted by the SR community anyway. When this will happen, I hope people will claim their order never arrived and scam the fuck out of him.
Holland you are beeing unfair, stupid and incredibly greedy. Untill you man up, don't expect any fair behavior from us.
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Ok, i think the seller AMSTERDAMSHOP is the new name that HOLLAND is using.
Loads of similarities i've noticed - over the top adverts, special offers, Power plant listed in description but none available (did he run out and was selling from both accounts?), AMSTERDAMSHOP joined as a seller i believe in Oct 2011, just in time for him/her to set up the scam he/she did.
Also, AMSTERDAMSHOP is operating a finalize early policy, as well as a 100% buyer takes all responsibility if things go tits up. Who in their right mind is going to do that knowing what the behaviour of Holland the seller was like? I'll tell you who, naive newbies who aren't on this forum i bet.
AMSTERDAMSHOP is running some sort of 'SPECIAL CANNABIS OFFER, very reminiscent of Holland. Judge for yourselves.
Cheers
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Ok, i think the seller AMSTERDAMSHOP is the new name that HOLLAND is using.
Loads of similarities i've noticed - over the top adverts, special offers, Power plant listed in description but none available (did he run out and was selling from both accounts?), AMSTERDAMSHOP joined as a seller i believe in Oct 2011, just in time for him/her to set up the scam he/she did.
Also, AMSTERDAMSHOP is operating a finalize early policy, as well as a 100% buyer takes all responsibility if things go tits up. Who in their right mind is going to do that knowing what the behaviour of Holland the seller was like? I'll tell you who, naive newbies who aren't on this forum i bet.
AMSTERDAMSHOP is running some sort of 'SPECIAL CANNABIS OFFER, very reminiscent of Holland. Judge for yourselves.
Cheers
the sad thing is: your theory sounds possible :'( >:(
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there is a new vender from holland that wights their listings in caps and has kinda the same menu and takes ukash lol could it be ??
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Is ANYTHING going to be done about all this and Holland?
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what can be done most paid out of escrow so nothing really to do with SR and if finalized early its not their problem so not much can be done really >:(
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The thing about so many orders from Holland not arriving is simple: shipping from Belgium wasn't safer after all.
From approx. June to December 2011 the police in Belgium seized lots of packages containing Cannabis.
How do I know? I got a nice love letter myself.