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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: giantboyfriend on October 01, 2012, 12:58 am
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I do not have any evidence at this point to say etizolam is scamming and I am not making ANY accusations as far as I know he is an upstanding seller.
However I placed an order with him on thursday and it hasn't shipped yet, which is no biggy because it's the weekend and to be expected. However I noticed a dramatic drop in his ratings over the course of the last week or so with what seems to be a lot of unhappy customers and I am definitely getting cold feet at this point. Time will tell and at this point nothing sketchy has happened in our transaction so maybe I'm just being paranoid.
But as this seems odd for a seller that has been around for so long and had such a longstanding positive repuation(I'm going by feedback alone) for things to just turn south, anyone have any recent transactions with him to maybe shed some light or share their experiences? Just wondering...
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The only package that hasn't showed up is from etizolam. The order went into resolution and got extended many times. I finally gave up and just let him have the money for the order since i didn't want to mess up my refund rate over a 20 dollar order. I guess i should've purchased a DCN. i really want to use this vendor because they have some products that no one else has. I just don't feel like having my coins tied up in case something goes wrong. The vendor did communicate with me during this event and claimed that they had shipped. Then, i was told that a mistake was made and it hadn't shipped so it would be going out the following morning. Another week went by and no package. I gave the vendor the benifit of the doubt and still left five star feedback. But, i'm not the only person who has had problems with this vendor.
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etizolam has had major fuck up delays in the past lasting longer than two months but he manages to compensate everybody. I hope this isn't one of those speed bumps.
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Etizolam is usually just pretty slow compared to some other vendors as far as getting the package out. I think he just gets behind on things and has a hard time getting caught up. He has some rare drugs and good prices so that keeps him in business. I ordered some tramadol from him a month ago and it took about 9 days to get to me. I had researched his reviews though and was expecting it to take a while so I didn't fret. Have you tried sending him a message? At least he didn't mark in transit before it shipped, that is the worst. I can not stand when a vendor marks something in transit and tells you in messages that they sent it out. When you get the package you can see the postmarked date and you know that they didn't send it until 4 or 5 days after they marked in it transit. I would rather they be upfront and let the buyer know that they will get it out the next day or whatever.
If a vendor doesn't mark the order in transit ship after a certain amount of time the option to cancel becomes clickable. If that happens you can cancel the order and place elsewhere. I believe you lose a small amount to Silk Road administration but it is not a noticeable amount. I would give him until Monday evening. He has said in the past to give him two business days to ship the product, and I would say count Friday and Monday as the two business days.
He usually has mixed reviews and I think people just get anxious about the slow processing time.
Hope that helps!
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How the hell does he have so much product? Is he using some kind of drop shipping method?
Also, anyone else find it freaky that he requires people to send him a picture proof of their residence?
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How the hell does he have so much product? Is he using some kind of drop shipping method?
Also, anyone else find it freaky that he requires people to send him a picture proof of their residence?
That is odd. He never asked me for anything, maybe he only asks new buyers for that?
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Yeah, it's happened before with 'ol tizzy the turtle. If you just leave your order in escrow, he'll either cancel or make it big it seems, but when he comes through, he does have some very good, obscure shit.
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He has said in the past to give him two business days to ship the product, and I would say count Friday and Monday as the two business days.
He usually has mixed reviews and I think people just get anxious about the slow processing time.
Hope that helps!
His profile usually says to expect 2-4 weeks processing time, but most feedback comments on the fast shipping...
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HIGHLY suggest no one buy from this vendor and def not fe.
I'm calling them out on scamming until they make good on their obligations.
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HIGHLY suggest no one buy from this vendor and def not fe.
I'm calling them out on scamming until they make good on their obligations.
lmao! etizolam has been here pretty much since the road started, and anyone who has dealt with him KNOWS he takes like a month almost to even ship your product. KNowing that, I don't order from him, but he is not a scammer, and his profile *used to* to state this very openly about the long processing times. One thing I can say for certain, if you are ordering rigs, or glassware, you get your shit fast. Plain and simple. Calling him a scammer is just laughable to all of us who have been here for a year, as every 4 months or so, one of these threads pop up saying "zomg! etizolam must be a scammer cuz he is taking too long to process my order dood!"...simply put, if you don't want to wait, go elsewhere...everyone else does. Don't call someone a scammer unless you have some solid proof. If you ordered and it is still in processing, then cancel it. If you FE, then that is your own ignorance, as the main rule around here is NEVER FE!
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I dealt with him twice - once was rather quick, and was as advertised. The second time had a random 2 week delay for an already stocked eclectic item, but - I don't think he scams....he's just maybe in to his own stuff a bit too much.
If a vendor selling something also sells hard drugs or something that is a red flag, but has a high rating - I would expect delays, as sadly some of the better vendors with awesome products are also selling/using heroin or coke and it impacts their business
I don't know what % of vendors this is, but - to me it's something I always look at.
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HIGHLY suggest no one buy from this vendor and def not fe.
I'm calling them out on scamming until they make good on their obligations.
lmao! etizolam has been here pretty much since the road started, and anyone who has dealt with him KNOWS he takes like a month almost to even ship your product. KNowing that, I don't order from him, but he is not a scammer, and his profile *used to* to state this very openly about the long processing times. One thing I can say for certain, if you are ordering rigs, or glassware, you get your shit fast. Plain and simple. Calling him a scammer is just laughable to all of us who have been here for a year, as every 4 months or so, one of these threads pop up saying "zomg! etizolam must be a scammer cuz he is taking too long to process my order dood!"...simply put, if you don't want to wait, go elsewhere...everyone else does. Don't call someone a scammer unless you have some solid proof. If you ordered and it is still in processing, then cancel it. If you FE, then that is your own ignorance, as the main rule around here is NEVER FE!
etizolam is a scumbag at the very least. Maybe not a scammer in that he doesn't literally just take your money and run, but taking a month to process an order for no discernible reason is almost as bad. Combining this with horrible to no communication and his new bullshit address verification (send a picture of a utility bill, or get a secret code mailed before your package) brings it right up to scam level in my opinion. It's pretty odd and worrying and with a drop from 95%+ to 87% in the last month or so, I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable sending him the "address / name proof he requires." Welp, I'd just say don't deal with the guy. No reason to, given all the other vendors and ways to get what you want.
TL;DR Don't order from etizolam, he's a piece of shit.
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HIGHLY suggest no one buy from this vendor and def not fe.
I'm calling them out on scamming until they make good on their obligations.
lmao! etizolam has been here pretty much since the road started, and anyone who has dealt with him KNOWS he takes like a month almost to even ship your product. KNowing that, I don't order from him, but he is not a scammer, and his profile *used to* to state this very openly about the long processing times. One thing I can say for certain, if you are ordering rigs, or glassware, you get your shit fast. Plain and simple. Calling him a scammer is just laughable to all of us who have been here for a year, as every 4 months or so, one of these threads pop up saying "zomg! etizolam must be a scammer cuz he is taking too long to process my order dood!"...simply put, if you don't want to wait, go elsewhere...everyone else does. Don't call someone a scammer unless you have some solid proof. If you ordered and it is still in processing, then cancel it. If you FE, then that is your own ignorance, as the main rule around here is NEVER FE!
etizolam is a scumbag at the very least. Maybe not a scammer in that he doesn't literally just take your money and run, but taking a month to process an order for no discernible reason is almost as bad. Combining this with horrible to no communication and his new bullshit address verification (send a picture of a utility bill, or get a secret code mailed before your package) brings it right up to scam level in my opinion. It's pretty odd and worrying and with a drop from 95%+ to 87% in the last month or so, I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable sending him the "address / name proof he requires." Welp, I'd just say don't deal with the guy. No reason to, given all the other vendors and ways to get what you want.
TL;DR Don't order from etizolam, he's a piece of shit.
Well hello, mr. brand new account with one lonely post...He stated on his profile page about the long processing time. As for address verification? I have yet to know of one person he has done that to. So, given that you a. DON"T have to verify your address, and b. the only beef people seem to have is the long processing time, which is is VERY upfront about, how does that make him a scumbag? Especially when, given the fact you are informed of the long processing time in advance, you are free to take your hostile ass elsewhere? NOt to mention, he ALSO states that not all products have a long processing time. Rigs, glassware, blisterpack pills, all go out rather quickly. There IS a reason he has been around as long as he has. Now what seems MORE suspect to me, is that you would create this account, for the sole purpose of replying to me, concealing your true forum identity. That alone knocks any credibility you may have had at the beginning down to absolutely nothing, EDIT: I realise I came off a bit harsh in the last sentence, so I removed it. However, you say he has no discernible reason to take that long to process, well, how do you know? Are you aware of what is going on in his life? Contrary to popular belief, SR vendors only reason for living is NOT to serve SR buyers. They have a life. Now, I don't know what is going on with him, if anything. All I know is that resorting to name calling for no good reason, when you don't know shit about the situation? That just makes you look like a dick.
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I placed an order with him. My first order with him. After 7 days of "processing" and 2 unanswered emails I just canceled the order and moved on. He's not a seller I want to do business with.
I don't mind a long wait time if I know the seller is legit but since this was my first transaction with him it's a bit uncomfortable not getting any kind of email response. All I asked him was when he would ship my order. The least he could do is tell me to fuck off.
I'm looking for sellers to do long term business with. I understand this isn't Amazon and I've run into problems with other sellers before. But we were always able to talk it out and reach an understanding. Sometimes that meant they'd cancel the order, sometimes that meant I wanted a long time. Other times (most of the time) the sellers I've bought from would admit they are having issues and let me know what is really going on. Then I could decide if I wanted to wait for them to fix their issues. I'm more than happy to give sellers leeway because all sellers here are just regular people trying to make some extra cash and life gets in the way once in a while or the problem isn't their fault at all.
But to go dark like etizolam does, forget about it.
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i think you just have to be patient with etizolam. like sickgirl said, we don't know what else is going on in his life and he does state in his profile that you could get your order in a few days or a few weeks.
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Well hello, mr. brand new account with one lonely post...He stated on his profile page about the long processing time. As for address verification? I have yet to know of one person he has done that to.
Just looked because I was curious. It is his policy now.
From his "userpage" or whatever.
If this is your first time purchasing from etizolam, you will be required to provide photo verification and/or wait for a secret code via snail mail in order to prove the full name and address you are using is actually deliverable.
His long processing time is essentially on there too so it should come to no surprise for people buying from him, although, "It may be there in 48hrs or may take a few weeks" is a ridiculous thing to say imo.
And all of his listings are down (or stealth) as of right now.
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I have done plenty with etizolam in the past. He has never claimed to be quick. In fact, he looks at this whole SR thing more of a hobby than a "job". AFAIK he is more a middleman or drop shipper than a stocking vendor (and that means additional wait time due to the actual vendors stock/ability to fill orders) He has never done me wrong, he once cancelled an order on me, then realized that he cancelled a couple weeks later, then filled the order in full, and added extras, and wouldn't accept compensation for the extras that he did send. In his profile, he used to clearly state that there would be long wait times, and if you aren't ok with the wait, then simply don't order. So, he is slow...he knows he is slow, but slow does not = scammer. stealing = scammer. There are "DIRE" consequences for scamming, but etiz doesn't deserve the title of scammer.
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Nor does the guy deserve the title "POS" from people who don't realize that vendors have lives outside of SR. For all we know he could have a full-time job and a family to take care of. That comes way before anything on SR should.
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I have done plenty with etizolam in the past. He has never claimed to be quick. In fact, he looks at this whole SR thing more of a hobby than a "job". AFAIK he is more a middleman or drop shipper than a stocking vendor (and that means additional wait time due to the actual vendors stock/ability to fill orders) He has never done me wrong, he once cancelled an order on me, then realized that he cancelled a couple weeks later, then filled the order in full, and added extras, and wouldn't accept compensation for the extras that he did send. In his profile, he used to clearly state that there would be long wait times, and if you aren't ok with the wait, then simply don't order. So, he is slow...he knows he is slow, but slow does not = scammer. stealing = scammer. There are "DIRE" consequences for scamming, but etiz doesn't deserve the title of scammer.
+1..exactly my point. He is not known to scam, so if one doesn't like the slo-o-o-o-o-w processing times, esp. after you have been forewarned, instead of calling scam, sod off to another vendor...fucking people nowadys, I swear. The drug game may have gotten a lot more "high tech", but has went down a few notches in respect and intelligence since the old days.