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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Locker on August 20, 2013, 03:58 pm
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I'm sure there has been many created in the past, but I would like to get some ideas on what drug to try next;
I have a reasonable amount of btc's, enough to buy enough drugs (be it a mix or a single drug) for one/several night(s) (on different occasions ::) ), and would like to try a new drug instead of just e's and weed.
So far I have tried coke a few times (meh, not really for me), I smoke weed regularly and I do E about 1/2 times a month. Now, I live at home with my mum (18 years old, plan to move out at the earliest opportunity but am still living at home for now :/) and she does not agree with drugs, so most of my trips/rolls are at night when she's gone to bed. Because of this, I have been too scared to try LSD because I've heard that some people stay high for up to 18 hours, so I don't want to do anything that will last more than 10/12 hours.
Apart from this I am open to trying anything, and have the funds to do so.
Cheers,
Locker.
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Anyone?
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Acid rarely lasts more than 12 hours. You should find an opportunity where you'll have some freedom to do stuff though, with a good friend or two.
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You can pretty much stop an acid trip by using anti-psychotics. Or Valium. That probably won't work during the peak though. After 8-10 hours it should work well.
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Looks like you should try some acid, last three replies (including mine) mentions it ;D. Don't be afraid of it, even with a high dose your trip should only last for about 12 hours actually. You will enjoy it, just respect it and don't take too much too soon. Also for the first few times you should have someone you trust to be your sitter. If you can't find somewhere else to trip other than at home do small doses (especially when trying to hide it from someone in the same home) like half a tab or only one tab a few times to get a feel for it. Again you should be fine just respect the dosage, and start low if you have any doubts. Being alone with only your mind and thoughts running on acid can be quite the experience if you've never done it before.
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Thanks all for your input, but the one thing I'm worried about is my pupils; How long will they stay dilated? Because on E my eyes pretty much fully dilate but go down as soon as I lose my High.
Locker.
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Acid rarely lasts more than 12 hours. You should find an opportunity where you'll have some freedom to do stuff though, with a good friend or two.
Most of my close friends are strongly against using anything other than weed, as they say they 'don't want to get into that stuff'. With any amount of persuasion I try they are simply just brainwashed into the belief that if you try any drug, you will become an addict and it will ruin your life. So yeah, all I can enjoy with them is weed unless I put a tab in their drinks. ;)
Locker.
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Not that im saying LSD is a bad idea, but of all the psychedelics on the road its prob one of the longest lasting effect wise, with a good trip easily hitting the 8-12 hour mark. LSD doesn't leave much room for error, as with any trip, where you are, what your doing and who you are with play a large part in it, but if an LSD trip goes wrong, your in it for the long haul!
I personally recommend something like 2CB for a first trip, its mild and short lasting. DMT is my current favorite, very short lasting but totally amazing. And of course, any Psilocybin mushrooms give a very similar effect to LSD but only last 3-4 hours.
Effects on pupils with most psychedelics is minimal. The biggest thing that will give you away tripping is yourself man..lol Taking any trip with a "concern" in your mind is generally not a good idea. DO NOT trip out at home hiding in your room from your mum dude, that may end badly first time...SERIOUSSSSSSS
NEVER spike anyone (end of) with LSD man, damm your send them into a bad trip for sure! Don't fuck around with these kind of drugs man, respect them and they will respect you!
You don't seem like a hard drug user so I would suggest the psychedelic road first myself, but tread it with caution!
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I personally recommend something like 2CB for a first trip, its mild and short lasting. DMT is my current favorite, very short lasting but totally amazing. And of course, any Psilocybin mushrooms give a very similar effect to LSD but only last 3-4 hours.
good point on starting w something shorter lasting.. back in the day when i used to live w my parents i did acid in my room at night and thought i was getting the full experience but doing it without a concern in your mind is so much better.. if you took, say 1-2 doses, for your first time it would not last 18 hrs you would probably be fine after 10 on the long end.. just .02 butttt you should probably be saving that drug $$ up to move out
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DMT is pretty fucking awesome, LSD is also another amazing drug, but you'd need time an a place to take it :P shrooms can be fun if you haven't had much experience with psychedelics... if you are really bored you could buy some saliva that shit will get you twisted for a bit, an its legal :P
also you said you enjoy E , so MDMA have you ever had MDA? ;)?
I'd advise staying away from meth, heroin, bathsalts, and other hardcore drugs..
ultimately though, I'd suggest getting your financial situation sorted first. move out of your moms place, and secure a living location and such before blowing your cash on drugs :P
you have the rest of your life for that! these are the important years to remain somewhat focused.. however this just my advise, do what you want with it!
also random fun fact!! Steve Jobs (yes, the dude that ran Apple computers) said taking LSD was one of the most important decisions he ever made ;D
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DMT is pretty fucking awesome, LSD is also another amazing drug, but you'd need time an a place to take it :P shrooms can be fun if you haven't had much experience with psychedelics... if you are really bored you could buy some saliva that shit will get you twisted for a bit, an its legal :P
also you said you enjoy E , so MDMA have you ever had MDA? ;)?
I'd advise staying away from meth, heroin, bathsalts, and other hardcore drugs..
ultimately though, I'd suggest getting your financial situation sorted first. move out of your moms place, and secure a living location and such before blowing your cash on drugs :P
you have the rest of your life for that! these are the important years to remain somewhat focused.. however this just my advise, do what you want with it!
also random fun fact!! Steve Jobs (yes, the dude that ran Apple computers) said taking LSD was one of the most important decisions he ever made ;D
This dude's right, such solid life advice from the SR community, I fucking love our community!
As some people are saying LSD is probs not the best one to be doing cooped up in your bedroom worrying about your mum waking up or coming in because your in it for like 8-12 hours dude. Also DMT has been suggested but I'd say DMT is way to intense for a first Psychedelic trip if you haven't done any others.
Your best bet is trying something like Shrooms, a great first Psych experience that doesn't last as long and is just as good as LSD. Although if your not after a trip or rather a chilled "out of body" feeling why not try some Ketamine, buy 0.5G and snort a few bumps listened to some music and smoke some spliffs and basically mong out, it's short lasting but a different experience compared to some other drugs as it's a De-Psychoactive.
Enjoy buddy!
Regards
PlanB :)
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you should probably be saving that drug $$ up to move out
Lol I plan on either moving abroad or a fair distance away when I move out, so it is going to cost me alot more than the money for a one night acid/drug trip :P.
NEVER spike anyone (end of) with LSD man, damm your send them into a bad trip for sure! Don't fuck around with these kind of drugs man, respect them and they will respect you!
Lol, yeah that was a joke, I was just explaining that there is no way that I would be able to take anything other than weed with my mates, as they are strongly against anything else.
It is going to be a week or so until I order, and have decided that I would like to try a psychedelic. I am considering either 2CB, LSD, or DMT, and am going to do a bit of research into the effects/dosage that would be best for me, so I'll have a look.
What would you prefer/recommend out of the 3?
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if you didn't yet , absolutely Ketamine , or mushrooms , or mdma !!
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DMT is pretty fucking awesome, LSD is also another amazing drug, but you'd need time an a place to take it :P shrooms can be fun if you haven't had much experience with psychedelics... if you are really bored you could buy some saliva that shit will get you twisted for a bit, an its legal :P
also you said you enjoy E , so MDMA have you ever had MDA? ;)?
I'd advise staying away from meth, heroin, bathsalts, and other hardcore drugs..
ultimately though, I'd suggest getting your financial situation sorted first. move out of your moms place, and secure a living location and such before blowing your cash on drugs :P
you have the rest of your life for that! these are the important years to remain somewhat focused.. however this just my advise, do what you want with it!
also random fun fact!! Steve Jobs (yes, the dude that ran Apple computers) said taking LSD was one of the most important decisions he ever made ;D
This dude's right, such solid life advice from the SR community, I fucking love our community!
As some people are saying LSD is probs not the best one to be doing cooped up in your bedroom worrying about your mum waking up or coming in because your in it for like 8-12 hours dude. Also DMT has been suggested but I'd say DMT is way to intense for a first Psychedelic trip if you haven't done any others.
Your best bet is trying something like Shrooms, a great first Psych experience that doesn't last as long and is just as good as LSD. Although if your not after a trip or rather a chilled "out of body" feeling why not try some Ketamine, buy 0.5G and snort a few bumps listened to some music and smoke some spliffs and basically mong out, it's short lasting but a different experience compared to some other drugs as it's a De-Psychoactive.
Enjoy buddy!
Regards
PlanB :)
:P arrg! yeah much love to the SR community <3 and cheers to yah brother :)
also, not to thread jack but I still haven't had K, been meaning to for a while now!
if you didn't yet , absolutely Ketamine , or mushrooms , or mdma !!
MDA can also be lots of fun ;D
you should probably be saving that drug $$ up to move out
Lol I plan on either moving abroad or a fair distance away when I move out, so it is going to cost me alot more than the money for a one night acid/drug trip :P.
NEVER spike anyone (end of) with LSD man, damm your send them into a bad trip for sure! Don't fuck around with these kind of drugs man, respect them and they will respect you!
Lol, yeah that was a joke, I was just explaining that there is no way that I would be able to take anything other than weed with my mates, as they are strongly against anything else.
It is going to be a week or so until I order, and have decided that I would like to try a psychedelic. I am considering either 2CB, LSD, or DMT, and am going to do a bit of research into the effects/dosage that would be best for me, so I'll have a look.
What would you prefer/recommend out of the 3?
I'd say try shrooms first ;) then maybe some acid! and if you still feel like you wanna go further down the rabbit hole, I'd say try some DMT :P
I never enjoyed 2cb or nbome's too much, had more fun with acid.. but that is just my opinion ^_^
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If you're taking acid, go to a music festival for a weekend or Las Vegas or outdoors but not while sitting at home with your mother in the house!
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Wow, gonna have to give a lot of karma out, great advice everyone!
Hmm, Ketamine sounds like a good option. I still seriously considering LSD, as everyone has said so many good things about it, how badly can a trip turn, would it make me scream and go wake everyone up or something? lol ;D
Going to do a bit more research into them all.
Also; I am planning to be smoking weed with whatever I end up buying, is this safe with most of them? I would assume it would just act as a 'booster' to the high.
Cheers everyone, love you all ;D
Locker.
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If you're taking acid, go to a music festival for a weekend or Las Vegas or outdoors but not while sitting at home with your mother in the house!
agreed :)!
Wow, gonna have to give a lot of karma out, great advice everyone!
Hmm, Ketamine sounds like a good option. I still seriously considering LSD, as everyone has said so many good things about it, how badly can a trip turn, would it make me scream and go wake everyone up or something? lol ;D
Going to do a bit more research into them all.
Also; I am planning to be smoking weed with whatever I end up buying, is this safe with most of them? I would assume it would just act as a 'booster' to the high.
Cheers everyone, love you all ;D
Locker.
mind over matter in most cases.. if you don't have strong will power, and don't think you'll be able to control yourself, having a sitting might do you well.
I think the environment is a very important part when taking strong psychedelic drugs, being comfortable with your surroundings, an the people can affect the trip majorly.
also, I think research can be your friend to an extent, if you spend so much time reading other peoples feelings towards the drug you may have expectations. and isn't it more fun to have fresh new discovery's of your own :)? I mean that is part of the idea in this thread right?
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2CB is a very mild psychedelic, you feel pretty sober on it mentally.
DMT is very intense, its one helllll of a trip, but as stated first time, maybe tread carefully with it.
LSD in a low dose might be ok. take half a dose.
Ketamine is not my cup of tea, also tread carefully, a K hole is about as much fun as losing it on acid
Weed will enhance all of the above drugs, play around with it, see what you think yourself, some like it, some dont... Its safe though, it will just make it more intense, when it does, just stop smoking it...
No one can explain a bad trip, its a personal life changing experience, often terrifying, and of course dangerous in the wrong environment.
Sounds like your gonna try this at home whatever, personally I say go with 2CB first, snort 5-10mg (it hurts like hell) and see how you get one, dont do more than about 20mg first trip id say. It lasts about 4 hours, its mild, fun and your get a feel for tripping, which nothing can ever really prepare you for man.
Or go with K, small amount (don't now doses myself) which last about 45 mins with little come down, a lot og people love the stuff, its a trip that's for sure, just not my idea on one hahahahaha
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also, I think research can be your friend to an extent, if you spend so much time reading other peoples feelings towards the drug you may have expectations. and isn't it more fun to have fresh new discovery's of your own :)? I mean that is part of the idea in this thread right?
My research merely consists of the general things that you should know about any drug before you take it, such as dosage, price, upper/downer, duration, general effects and just what fits the sort of drug I would like and works for my circumstances to decide what to use.
I don't really want too much of a surprise ;D
I like the sound of ketamine though, how likely/enjoyable is a K hole?
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crystal meth.. the best a man can get!
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also, I think research can be your friend to an extent, if you spend so much time reading other peoples feelings towards the drug you may have expectations. and isn't it more fun to have fresh new discovery's of your own :)? I mean that is part of the idea in this thread right?
My research merely consists of the general things that you should know about any drug before you take it, such as dosage, price, upper/downer, duration, general effects and just what fits the sort of drug I would like and works for my circumstances to decide what to use.
I don't really want too much of a surprise ;D
I like the sound of ketamine though, how likely/enjoyable is a K hole?
Never been in a K-hole but really enjoyed small bumps of K on the comedown from E! It is like a lovely red wine with a juicy steak (even though I don't eat red meat!), well matched!
Just to add, a couple of friends took a big line of K and one ended up crawling off a balcony and was very lucky to not be hurt while the other friends were in the apartment unable to move or work out what had happened! VERY VERY small bumps depending on quality just to be safe! Sorry for sounding like a father figure!!! :)
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crystal meth.. the best a man can get!
I'm sure the time will come, but honestly I feel that in my circumstances I need to build up to the 'hardcore drugs', but I do plan to do most things at least once.
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To add, I also feel that Ketamine would be best for me seeing as I am being on my own. With drugs like E, I find it, although still a good experience, somewhat boring on my own and I feel like I need to share my high with others. Ketamine, especially since, from what other people said, a K hole is a solo experience and quite enjoyable (which If is true, I will be aiming to achieve), so this sounds good to me. I also have around £150, so I feel that, aswell as a decent amount of weed, I am likely to be able to buy some acid for a different night. (There is no chance that I'm mixing drugs that I have never tried individually, especially at home lol)
Cheers for your feedback, you've all been great. ;D
Locker.
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DMT is pretty fucking awesome, LSD is also another amazing drug, but you'd need time an a place to take it :P shrooms can be fun if you haven't had much experience with psychedelics... if you are really bored you could buy some saliva that shit will get you twisted for a bit, an its legal :P
also you said you enjoy E , so MDMA have you ever had MDA? ;)?
I'd advise staying away from meth, heroin, bathsalts, and other hardcore drugs..
ultimately though, I'd suggest getting your financial situation sorted first. move out of your moms place, and secure a living location and such before blowing your cash on drugs :P
you have the rest of your life for that! these are the important years to remain somewhat focused.. however this just my advise, do what you want with it!
also random fun fact!! Steve Jobs (yes, the dude that ran Apple computers) said taking LSD was one of the most important decisions he ever made ;D
This dude's right, such solid life advice from the SR community, I fucking love our community!
As some people are saying LSD is probs not the best one to be doing cooped up in your bedroom worrying about your mum waking up or coming in because your in it for like 8-12 hours dude. Also DMT has been suggested but I'd say DMT is way to intense for a first Psychedelic trip if you haven't done any others.
Your best bet is trying something like Shrooms, a great first Psych experience that doesn't last as long and is just as good as LSD. Although if your not after a trip or rather a chilled "out of body" feeling why not try some Ketamine, buy 0.5G and snort a few bumps listened to some music and smoke some spliffs and basically mong out, it's short lasting but a different experience compared to some other drugs as it's a De-Psychoactive.
Enjoy buddy!
Regards
PlanB :)
:P arrg! yeah much love to the SR community <3 and cheers to yah brother :)
also, not to thread jack but I still haven't had K, been meaning to for a while now!
Dude if you've not try K then try it, it's fairly cheap; for me here in the UK it's £20/1G so decent price and it's an experience that I've not had with any other drug. A couple bumps and you start to get "Wonky" like in your walking and movement, it's like being drunk straight away, then your mind becomes a bit hazy and foggy, but if your chilling that's fine. On higher doses and depending which K Isomer you get then you can actually get visuals and fractals appearing.
But try it dude, it's cheap and a weird experience, plus it doesn't last long so if it's not your bag then don't worry...A warning the drip is terrible from it, rank taste!
Regards
PlanB
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Dude if you've not try K then try it, it's fairly cheap; for me here in the UK it's £20/1G so decent price and it's an experience that I've not had with any other drug. A couple bumps and you start to get "Wonky" like in your walking and movement, it's like being drunk straight away, then your mind becomes a bit hazy and foggy, but if your chilling that's fine. On higher doses and depending which K Isomer you get then you can actually get visuals and fractals appearing.
But try it dude, it's cheap and a weird experience, plus it doesn't last long so if it's not your bag then don't worry...A warning the drip is terrible from it, rank taste!
Regards
PlanB
Cheers for your response;
I have absolutely no Idea where to start on finding someone to get me Ketamine locally, so will be 1g from SR, is this listing ok/recommended? (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/fc038a65d4).
In addition to this, am I able to smoke weed on the drug? At what dosage am I likely to get a strong high/K hole?
Also, if the drip is so bad what differences are their between bombing and insufflation?
Cheers all,
Locker.
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try injecting meth first, then heroin when you´r mum wakes up and you need to look normal. then go back to the meth whilst shes at work. do this repeatedly, many many times, inject directly into your neck so she cant see the track marks then into your arms, groin, pelvis anywhere you think there might be a vain / artery / hollow space etc.. dont pussy foot around looking to see if your in or you missed, just plunge right in there like ostrich on a huge slab of soft butter, or better yet into your brain through your temple if you really got balls. Do this repeatedly for 5 days until you lose you mind and get taken to a psych ward. Guaranteed to be a new experience that you´ll fondly cherish for ever and ever
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try injecting meth first, then heroin when you´r mum wakes up and you need to look normal. then go back to the meth whilst shes at work. do this repeatedly, many many times, inject directly into your neck so she cant see the track marks then into your arms, groin, pelvis anywhere you think there might be a vain / artery / hollow space etc.. dont pussy foot around looking to see if your in or you missed, just plunge right in there like ostrich on a huge slab of soft butter, or better yet into your brain through your temple if you really got balls. Do this repeatedly for 5 days until you lose you mind and get taken to a psych ward. Guaranteed to be a new experience that you´ll fondly cherish for ever and ever
Haha, cheers for the laugh.
But In all seriousness, I do plan on experimenting with meth/heroin and some of the other 'hard' drugs at least a few times, but I feel I need to sort some things out (i.e have my own space and freedom) first, and in my circumstances it wouldn't exactly be wise to do so.
Locker.
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If you are going to use/try heroin make sure you do it with someone who know what they are doing so if something happens they can help plus less likly for anything bad to happen
Meth smoke heaps of that shit but dont bang it that shit aint made to go in you veins
Dont inject in the same spot repeatedly noone wants a requiem arm
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id go with shrooms
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Damm guys your suggesting an 18 year old takes meth and heroin. Im a recovering H addict myself (currently 5 years clean again), I walked that road I would never want to see anyone walk it.
I get the curiosity thing, it gets me all the time on the silk road. I tried meth recently, not my thing personally but I wanted to say I have at least once. Tread carefully with those sort of drugs man, it takes a certain type of person to get hooked for sure, sadly I meet the criteria, but what if you do too?? You wont get hooked trying any of these drugs, in fact it takes usage over months or years to get a habit, just be mindful man.
Stick with weed and recreational's man! Enjoy your teens and live your life as it was intended. Don't mess around with addiction, your live to regret it like me!
Ketamine is also very addictive and I have a number of friends whos life has been totally destroyed by it. Again trying it wont mean your end up that way, but just watch yourself man.
I take loads of drugs still, but ive learnt many lessons along the way I hope others don't!
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Ok, I have one possible option sorted;
In the next week or so, I will be buying a gram of ketamine and 200mg of DMT and trying them both on different nights. After getting used to the two drugs, I am going to bump a line or two of ketamine, then at it's peak take a dose of DMT. I've heard that the two are amazing together, and would like to try them. In addition to all of this I will be smoking weed with all of them. And hey, I might throw an acid tab in there for another night, would just one 210ug blotter be enough to get me fairly high?
This is just a possibility right now, still yet to decide 100%.
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Damm guys your suggesting an 18 year old takes meth and heroin. Im a recovering H addict myself (currently 5 years clean again), I walked that road I would never want to see anyone walk it.
I get the curiosity thing, it gets me all the time on the silk road. I tried meth recently, not my thing personally but I wanted to say I have at least once. Tread carefully with those sort of drugs man, it takes a certain type of person to get hooked for sure, sadly I meet the criteria, but what if you do too?? You wont get hooked trying any of these drugs, in fact it takes usage over months or years to get a habit, just be mindful man.
Stick with weed and recreational's man! Enjoy your teens and live your life as it was intended. Don't mess around with addiction, your live to regret it like me!
Ketamine is also very addictive and I have a number of friends whos life has been totally destroyed by it. Again trying it wont mean your end up that way, but just watch yourself man.
I take loads of drugs still, but ive learnt many lessons along the way I hope others don't!
Yeah, this is likely to be in the very distant future. As you say, you wanted to try meth at least once, which is really just what I want to do; I can't give much of an opinion on the drug until I have tried it.
Cheers,
Locker.
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It didn't live upto my expectations, just pricey, long lasting speed for me :o
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Ok, I have one possible option sorted;
In the next week or so, I will be buying a gram of ketamine and 200mg of DMT and trying them both on different nights. After getting used to the two drugs, I am going to bump a line or two of ketamine, then at it's peak take a dose of DMT. I've heard that the two are amazing together, and would like to try them. In addition to all of this I will be smoking weed with all of them. And hey, I might throw an acid tab in there for another night, would just one 210ug blotter be enough to get me fairly high?
This is just a possibility right now, still yet to decide 100%.
As others have said, just tread carefully! Always be familiar with the two before mixing them I'd say.
And yeah, a 210 ug tab will be pretty powerful for a first time experience.
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Ok, I have one possible option sorted;
In the next week or so, I will be buying a gram of ketamine and 200mg of DMT and trying them both on different nights. After getting used to the two drugs, I am going to bump a line or two of ketamine, then at it's peak take a dose of DMT. I've heard that the two are amazing together, and would like to try them. In addition to all of this I will be smoking weed with all of them. And hey, I might throw an acid tab in there for another night, would just one 210ug blotter be enough to get me fairly high?
This is just a possibility right now, still yet to decide 100%.
Personally I wouldn't mix K & DMT because there effects are at different ends of the spectrum, but that's my own personal view so take it with a pinch of salt. Also do a couple keys of the K then wait a few minutes for it to hit, you don't want to go into a K Hole your first time as it's a bit frightening and you lose all bodily control if your not use to it.
So just do a couple bumps and see what your capable of then maybe increase dosage as well as mixing it with other drugs. But just take it one step at a time, then you will understand what the drug and you are both capable of. Finally 210ug is a very good first dose of acid, when I first did acid about a year ago I got 200ug and it blew my mind so enjoy, be safe and try and stay relaxed......Hope all goes well and we've all been helpful!
Regards
PlanB :)
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Please remember, that this whole experience is going to be over several weeks, and I am buying (what i believe to be) a fair amount of each drug, so I will have time to experiment with each drug on it's own. Also, the order still has not been completely decided but I feel that these drugs would be best for me by myself, but I'm still open to suggestions as it is next sunday that I will be ordering.
However I am still not quite sure about the DMT, I have always been the sort of person that has wanted to go straight for the best, and doesn't really want to have to build up to that. I don't feel like taking mild psychedelics would be for me, but as I have said I am completely new to the world of psychedelics so do not really know what to expect. With people saying how strong DMT can be, and also the fact that it only last *30 minutes, I'm not quite sure; I may just go for some acid :/
You've all been great, and I love you all :P
Locker.
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I don't thinks shrooms would be very good idea at the moment, this is mainly/purely because of the pupil dilation; The pupil dilation on shrooms is massive, and I've heard that it can last up to a day or two afterwards (noticably), so even f i did do it away from the house i don't feel I could do shrooms without it becoming obvious.
I'm sure I will get the chance when I move out though, but for now I just need something to do while I'm at home.
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Mate as said don't sit in and do any psychedelics!!
Id go for shrooms over LSD first time, and leave the DMT alone for now man, you don't sound ready for that shizzle yet, walk before you can run and all that
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Mate as said don't sit in and do any psychedelics!!
Id go for shrooms over LSD first time, and leave the DMT alone for now man, you don't sound ready for that shizzle yet, walk before you can run and all that
I agree, I don't think DMT will be such a good experience If I am new to the world of psychedelics ;D
I would try shrooms, but like I said I would be likely to see my mother no more than 14 hours after the trip, and even if I did go out to a friends, most of them have parents that would see my pupil dilation and even if they didn't I've heard that noticeable dilation can still be seen 24 hours after the trip :/
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Dude your pupils are the least of your worries tripping, id worry more about the walls bending, your mum looking evil and a general sense of good old tripping fear!! When I was younger than you I was tripping at home, hiding it, the pupils always look pretty normal really, like I say its more the whole world is spinning, your thinking becomes you sight, your sight becomes your hearing, ahhh its insane, but your struggle to make sense of that let alone your mum, and your look lost and confused to her for sure!!!
You wont be able to hold a rational conversation, that takes practice lol
Shrooms go with a low dose of 2 grams, that will give you a mild 1/2 trip for a couple of hours, and your get a feel for it. 3-4g is where its at, anything over in interesting!
If you go with shrooms post the genetics up and im sure myself or others will run you through what to expect, as each strain has its own sort of trip :) Just take it somewhere safe with someone that can look out for you, tripping wont kill ya, losing it and walking into a road of falling of a building is a very real reality man, again, tread carefully (I know you are anyway as your asking for advice)
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Also if you can source them, truffles are a nice entry to shrooms. Try the Philosophia stones, very mild and very giggly!!
I still say 2CB man, its the mildest psy on the market, short lasting, and you could easily sit and home on that stuff and just laugh for 2 hours, your mum prob would never know ;)
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Dude your pupils are the least of your worries tripping, id worry more about the walls bending, your mum looking evil and a general sense of good old tripping fear!! When I was younger than you I was tripping at home, hiding it, the pupils always look pretty normal really, like I say its more the whole world is spinning, your thinking becomes you sight, your sight becomes your hearing, ahhh its insane, but your struggle to make sense of that let alone your mum, and your look lost and confused to her for sure!!!
You wont be able to hold a rational conversation, that takes practice lol
Shrooms go with a low dose of 2 grams, that will give you a mild 1/2 trip for a couple of hours, and your get a feel for it. 3-4g is where its at, anything over in interesting!
If you go with shrooms post the genetics up and im sure myself or others will run you through what to expect, as each strain has its own sort of trip :) Just take it somewhere safe with someone that can look out for you, tripping wont kill ya, losing it and walking into a road of falling of a building is a very real reality man, again, tread carefully (I know you are anyway as your asking for advice)
Haha of course my mother isn't going to be around me while I'm tripping, I would consume them when/just before she goes to bed and then have a good 12/14 hours before I would be seeing her, or I would go to a friends and have around 15 hours before I would see her/anyone else. But yeah, I would likely be taking a small dose at the start, then a 2/3g of whatever shroom I end up buying. But some people have said that pupils stay dilated for a long time after your trip (+= 24 hours noticeably), so I don't know, My mother is the sort of person that would definitely ask about my pupils :/
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Also if you can source them, truffles are a nice entry to shrooms. Try the Philosophia stones, very mild and very giggly!!
I still say 2CB man, its the mildest psy on the market, short lasting, and you could easily sit and home on that stuff and just laugh for 2 hours, your mum prob would never know ;)
The only thing I can source round here is Weed and really cut up e/coke, I wouldn't have a clue where to start for anything else here, so all my drugs come from the road.
It sounds like a good option, I am now looking into it. What is the high/visuals like? Would it be a good drug for meditation/deep thinking?
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Just popping in because my experience seems to be less common but the first psych I tried was DMT: I didn't get all these warnings and precautions I was just handed it one day by a friend, no idea what it was, and he basically walked me through doing it. (although this isn't the safety forum I will add the disclaimer that just taking something you have no idea what it is isn't exactly bright but I trusted this guy)
Anyways, it was a great experience and DMT is still probably my favorite psych. Everything else just has a tough body load for me, in my experience. I've always been pretty careful with DMT and it's just a nice, but intense, experience. Just be careful and it's nothing really to be afraid of. Plus it's short-acting if you have to be taking things where you could get caught (although I second the idea of taking stuff like this with a friend--give it time and you'll eventually find someone who shares your exploration interests).
And I enjoyed combining Ket and DMT -- probably the most intense experience I've ever had. It lasted a rather long time because I packed a large amount of DMT and kept redosing whenever I "came to" enough to hit it again. The Ketamine kept me in a rather sedated, dream-state and the DMT really sent my mind places.
If you are interested in deep-thinking you could totally go with 2CB: I had some really strong introspective meditative thoughts and really re-evaluated some stuff in my life at the time. Just thinking about it makes me want to go hit up my buddies and trip with them again. Although, for me, any psychedelic is rather hard for me to play off so I usually hang out with like-minded individuals.
And if you just want a light-trip: try a gram or 1.5 grams of mushrooms. It'll change your thinking a bit and make your vision a little more vibrant but won't blow you away.
Of course everyone reacts differently so be smart, be careful, enjoy.
Cheers,
Snoopish
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Just popping in because my experience seems to be less common but the first psych I tried was DMT: I didn't get all these warnings and precautions I was just handed it one day by a friend, no idea what it was, and he basically walked me through doing it. (although this isn't the safety forum I will add the disclaimer that just taking something you have no idea what it is isn't exactly bright but I trusted this guy)
Anyways, it was a great experience and DMT is still probably my favorite psych. Everything else just has a tough body load for me, in my experience. I've always been pretty careful with DMT and it's just a nice, but intense, experience. Just be careful and it's nothing really to be afraid of. Plus it's short-acting if you have to be taking things where you could get caught (although I second the idea of taking stuff like this with a friend--give it time and you'll eventually find someone who shares your exploration interests).
And I enjoyed combining Ket and DMT -- probably the most intense experience I've ever had. It lasted a rather long time because I packed a large amount of DMT and kept redosing whenever I "came to" enough to hit it again. The Ketamine kept me in a rather sedated, dream-state and the DMT really sent my mind places.
If you are interested in deep-thinking you could totally go with 2CB: I had some really strong introspective meditative thoughts and really re-evaluated some stuff in my life at the time. Just thinking about it makes me want to go hit up my buddies and trip with them again. Although, for me, any psychedelic is rather hard for me to play off so I usually hang out with like-minded individuals.
And if you just want a light-trip: try a gram or 1.5 grams of mushrooms. It'll change your thinking a bit and make your vision a little more vibrant but won't blow you away.
Of course everyone reacts differently so be smart, be careful, enjoy.
Snoopish
Wow thanks, such a great reply +1!
Cheers, I think, especially after hearing your experiences, I am going to try both Ketamine and DMT seperately, and then combine them. I don't think shrooms are really going to work for me, and I don't see like acid is a drug for taking on your own.
I am the sort of person that likes to sit there, think, and just contemplate things, meditation etc, so would like to take a drug that would compliment that. If, as you say, 2bc is like that then I am considering ordering some 2bc to smoke some weed to and try to get into a state of 'trance' and deep thought and such.
I fucking love this community, you can get help with literally anything ;D
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Glad to be of help :)
Yeah 2cb is definitely the one that I got the most introspective experience off of. The LSD I did was alright but just wasn't strong enough in that department -- mostly just some visual spectacle.
I will mention that if you got anything bothering you in your life that it could turn into some painful introspection. I wouldn't say it's bad but it can be unpleasant if you aren't expecting it but I've enjoyed my experiences with 2cb and would say it's a pretty safe bet as far as the 2c-drugs go (dosing isn't as small as some others and so it's more forgiving if you're weighing it out yourself).
Cheers,
Snoopish
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Just a question;
What about mescaline?
I've heard that it's similar to LSD but you have alot more control, I don't know anything about the drug but what do you all think? Has anybody tried it. what was it like?
Cheers,
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Mescaline is great, but it depends how you take it really, some methods can make you quite sick :(
I usually go for the synthetic versions, just because you don't get the sickness. I find it similar to shrooms, but it can take you to some pretty mental places!
If you want good synthetic Mescaline check out:
MahaKala http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a558c7d69b
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I've done Acid, Mescaline, Shrooms, Unknown Blotter Drugs and 2C-B.
So far 2C-B is my favorite, but possibly a close second is candy flipping.
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I've done Acid, Mescaline, Shrooms, Unknown Blotter Drugs and 2C-B.
So far 2C-B is my favorite, but possibly a close second is candy flipping.
What is the 2C-B high like? I have just bought some Ketamine (because I was offered a discount on some Ketamine, so why not), and am now considering buying some 2C-B.
Going to have to look into it, cheers,
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At the 20 mg doses that I've been doing -2C-B is like LSD without the loss of ego. Plus, unlike acid (this is different for everyone) I can eat and sleep on it and after it.
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Low doses of 2CB are pretty mild, 10-40mg, things become colorful, your get waves of euphoria, laughter, giggles etc... Things might move / bend in the corners of your vision etc. Higher doses are quite insane, I did an 80mg line at a festival recently and it was interesting to say the least! lol I think I spent an hour talking to a bush I was convinced was a long lost friend.. yeahhhhhhhhh lol
First time get one 20MG dose, split it into 2 lines.. Do one see how you feel! Your get that for about $10 on here!!
One thing to watch with 2CB is that its a precursor, and will intensify most drugs mixed with it :) Do some research on it all BEFORE jumping in with cocktail including 2CB :)
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Low doses of 2CB are pretty mild, 10-40mg, things become colorful, your get waves of euphoria, laughter, giggles etc... Things might move / bend in the corners of your vision etc. Higher doses are quite insane, I did an 80mg line at a festival recently and it was interesting to say the least! lol I think I spent an hour talking to a bush I was convinced was a long lost friend.. yeahhhhhhhhh lol
First time get one 20MG dose, split it into 2 lines.. Do one see how you feel! Your get that for about $10 on here!!
One thing to watch with 2CB is that its a precursor, and will intensify most drugs mixed with it :) Do some research on it all BEFORE jumping in with cocktail including 2CB :)
Currently deciding between LSD and 2CB, possibly DMT. LSD may not be the best option though as I'll be alone, and how badly can DMT go if i've never done any psychedelics? Is it really that strong/powerful?
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Low doses of 2CB are pretty mild, 10-40mg, things become colorful, your get waves of euphoria, laughter, giggles etc... Things might move / bend in the corners of your vision etc. Higher doses are quite insane, I did an 80mg line at a festival recently and it was interesting to say the least! lol I think I spent an hour talking to a bush I was convinced was a long lost friend.. yeahhhhhhhhh lol
First time get one 20MG dose, split it into 2 lines.. Do one see how you feel! Your get that for about $10 on here!!
One thing to watch with 2CB is that its a precursor, and will intensify most drugs mixed with it :) Do some research on it all BEFORE jumping in with cocktail including 2CB :)
I think 40 mg of 2CB would be pretty intense for a beginner tbh. The few times I've tried it <30mg I've found it a fairly fun and easy psychedelic. Though I can see it becoming heavy at higher doses.
Again I'd recommend finding a way to try these things with a friend without your parents watching!
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Currently deciding between LSD and 2CB, possibly DMT. LSD may not be the best option though as I'll be alone, and how badly can DMT go if i've never done any psychedelics? Is it really that strong/powerful?
Locker.
Again, I had my first sitting with DMT supervised but it was a fairly low dose. As with any psychedelic dosing can influence a lot of the experience: although even what seems a low dose can be quite mind blowing: last time I did what I thought was a little (the hit was smooth but even on my exhale it didn't seem like much) I still rolled back, seeing light, a brief feeling of presence, intense CEVs.
If you're careful I don't see why there'd be a problem. Just start low and make sure you're somewhere you can lay back comfortably and have a place to safely drop/put your vape'ing device.
Although if you got to choose you certainly will get more for your money by getting 2CB in terms of length and uses.
Cheers,
Snoopish
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I love DMT and I don't think much would go wrong, its pretty intense though, comes on super fast and will blow your mind!
Agreed with 40mg 2CB being to much if snorted, I think orally your be fine on that dose though!
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Do not do acid in an environment you do not feel comfortable!! (around people that disapprove)
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I think some of you misunderstood;
I would not actually be doing it around my mother, or anyone else infact, however I would have a maximum of about 12 hours before I would. So I don't still want to be noticeably high (ie. dilates pupils and such) when I do.
Regarding DMT, I feel that I would be ordering a fairly large amount (due to the strength of the drug, and also the short length of the high) so I would have plenty of time to experiment with smaller doses. I am probably going to order both DMT and 2CB (Definitely not to mix though, not yet ;D), so will have experienced both of them. I don't feel like I want to do LSD yet, until I have sorted my circumstances out and properly moved out/got enough time away from home.
Thanks everyone,
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Well the ketamine that I ordered has just arrived ;D
If all goes well then I should be trying it tonight, and aiming to hole tomorrow.
Thank you all for your advice you've been great, will be ordering DMT/2c-b next week,
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DMT is a truly beautiful drug it really is. For me its the best psychedelic I have found in recent years, on another level from anything else I have ever tried, everyone has to try it for sure! I have never had a bad experience with DMT, even on stupidly high doses and even mixed with other drugs, DMT has been my friend throughout!
2CB is very mild, its not something I get super excited about though. Its really nice on an MDMA come down thats for sure, it mixes well with other drugs too. I have also tried 2CC and 2CI, which are a bit more potent but very samey.
LSD is the first psychedelic I ever took, almost 25 years ago now! My first trip was utterly terrifying, I didn;t really understand what tripping was back then, I took it at a fair ground on my own, It may have been the most scariest 8 hours of my life! I have only had a few bad trips on LSD, but damm, that shit is life changing. My main issue with LSD these days is the length of the trip. Its just to much tripping for this old head these days that's for sure!
I have just landed some 25c-NBOMe / 25i-NBOMe. Thats my next psychedelic venture ;)
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Does music enhance or benefit the ketamine high? Can anybody recommend some music for a ketamine high? I'm thinking of just putting on some ambient mix and going with it.
Thank you Sinister-breaks +1! This is also one of the reasons I don't want to do LSD in a place where I would be unable to do let anyone in other rooms in the house that I was high. If I was to really badly trip, and end up running out of my room or something, It would cause alot of trouble.
I'm thinking that I would like to try a fairly high dose of 2c-b, so will have to have a look when i get some btc'.
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Does music enhance or benefit the ketamine high? Can anybody recommend some music for a ketamine high? I'm thinking of just putting on some ambient mix and going with it.
Thank you Sinister-breaks +1! This is also one of the reasons I don't want to do LSD in a place where I would be unable to do let anyone in other rooms in the house that I was high. If I was to really badly trip, and end up running out of my room or something, It would cause alot of trouble.
I'm thinking that I would like to try a fairly high dose of 2c-b, so will have to have a look when i get some btc'.
Locker.
For ambiance try The Orb - Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld. It's an oldy at this stage but I used to love it when stoned!
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I haven't read all the pages in this thread, but I saw on the 1st one that you tried Coke and it wasn't yoiur thing. You gotta understand that if you got typical local street C that most likely is was very light on coke and heavy on cuts like speed, lev, and/or a variety of other caines, you didn't get the true coke experience. Sampling really good, nearly pure C is a completely different experience . Sukey's Ultra Clean, Bungees stuff, Studio54's pure, these are very good and about as pure as you can get. Threre are others , these are just the best I've tried personally. It's a much better experience than doing nasty , speedy cut to shit pseudo coke. You might just change your opinion of C if you sampled the real thing.
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I haven't read all the pages in this thread, but I saw on the 1st one that you tried Coke and it wasn't yoiur thing. You gotta understand that if you got typical local street C that most likely is was very light on coke and heavy on cuts like speed, lev, and/or a variety of other caines, you didn't get the true coke experience. Sampling really good, nearly pure C is a completely different experience . Sukey's Ultra Clean, Bungees stuff, Studio54's pure, these are very good and about as pure as you can get. Threre are others , these are just the best I've tried personally. It's a much better experience than doing nasty , speedy cut to shit pseudo coke. You might just change your opinion of C if you sampled the real thing.
Spot on!
When I got into coke, I mostly thought to myself while sitting with friends doing local crap that coke has to be better than this and was proved right after trying some quality real coke from SR. Not tried Sukey's Ultra but thumbs up for the other two mentioned!
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I haven't read all the pages in this thread, but I saw on the 1st one that you tried Coke and it wasn't yoiur thing. You gotta understand that if you got typical local street C that most likely is was very light on coke and heavy on cuts like speed, lev, and/or a variety of other caines, you didn't get the true coke experience. Sampling really good, nearly pure C is a completely different experience . Sukey's Ultra Clean, Bungees stuff, Studio54's pure, these are very good and about as pure as you can get. Threre are others , these are just the best I've tried personally. It's a much better experience than doing nasty , speedy cut to shit pseudo coke. You might just change your opinion of C if you sampled the real thing.
Yeah I doubt that it was += 35% coke haha, took a large dosage to feel anything. Coke is always so expensive aswell, but then I suppose you need alot less than your average street coke to get high (as you can probably go through a gram street coke in a night easily). So i don't know, It's certainly an option but it seems quite expensive. :/
Anyway, about to try my first lot of Ketamine, wish me luck ;D
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How did you get on with it, I always found K and music dont mix, sound gets very distorted an odd. Im not a big fan of K anyway, I don't like the lack of control from any dissociative, for me those drugs might cause hallucinations but there is nothing spiritual in K for me, no connection to anything. Many people swear by the stuff though :)
You dont need a massive dose of 2CB, in fact the opposite is advised man, anything over 40mg will get scary, I took 80MG once and had to work to hold my head together, I would never take that kind of dose again myself, it was just wrong, chemical poisoning! 2CB is best around the 20-40mg snorted. I always make 10mg lines, go easy, it comes on fast, your sweat like a moffo and get a bit disoriented. The first hour or so on any 2C is toxic, it does ease off and become quite pleasant though eventually. 2C for me has nothing on what I consider true psychedelic compounds (LSD, psilocybin, DMT, Mescaline)!
I love my coke, its been a massive issue in my life. I have lost so much from it. There is NO good coke on the road man. I have tried 8+ vendors all offering uncut / 90%+ cocaine. Utter bollocks! Most I have been cut with legal highs, or are utter shit. Im naughty and wash my coke cold with ammonia, I know my stuff, what they sell on here is not decent coke. I have a local source for that. Its cheaper than on here, and comes in at about 80%, which is good coke! Dont buy it on here!
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How did you get on with it, I always found K and music dont mix, sound gets very distorted an odd. Im not a big fan of K anyway, I don't like the lack of control from any dissociative, for me those drugs might cause hallucinations but there is nothing spiritual in K for me, no connection to anything. Many people swear by the stuff though :)
Wow, last night was probably one of the best and worst nights of my life, definitely one of the weirdest. I have to say i was not expecting something like what happened, and it came so quickly and almost scared me a little coming up. I knew i should have made sure that I only had on the case the amount I was snorting and shouldn't have left all 500mg in front of me; I remember snorting the initial 150mg line, It was completely harsh and I felt like I was going to be stuck with a horrible drip for the rest of the high, but after about 2 minutes that left so I decided to bump a further 50mg line as it was coming up, but unaware to me during the high I had completely cleaned off the ketamine from the case, meaning that I had snorted a total of 500mg within the first 5-10 minutes (As it only took 5 minutes to come up).This started to scare me a little bit, but I quickly lost all of my thoughts being thrown into the void. This I think was the turning factor for the high.
I had my headphones plugged into the TV, and I found the music to fit perfectly with the drug and I believe it completely changed the start of the high, and it almost felt like the music was my life, and I couldn't do anything without it, and it almost controlled me in a way but this is hard to explain, this is when i started to completely space out and go into a different reality (I was listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWpSbTdNMjk). My whole reality was warping with the music, my movements were somewhat robotic and I had little to no control over myself at all, I was forced to just go with the high and let it do whatever it wanted.
Then, as my whole body 'jolted' left and right for whatever reason (very vague memory's at this point), and my headphones actually got pulled out and the music started playing out of the TV. At this point it snapped me out of the small 'trance' I was in and I went and unplugged the tv; It must have took me about 30 seconds, I felt as if I had just jumped up 100m into the air and I was slowly falling, grabbing the plug out and then falling back into the bottomless pit that my consiousness was getting pulled down through my pillow.
I was expecting my body to become completely numb and I would be sitting still for the high, but it was completely the opposite; it was like my body became my mind and consciousness and my mind became my body, they both moved in complete unity and pretty much became one. I was cycling through different places and states it seemed to me that I was living about 5 different reality's and consciousness' at once, all seemed to be a variation of another and slightly different. For example, at one point It seemed almost impossible to even swallow, when i tried my whole reality just shook and I was unaware of what was happening, so I gained enough control to grab for the bottle of water that was next to me (thank you for telling me to bring one, It helped alot). It was like the bottle both existed and didn't exist, it was there but it also wasn't, i was living out different reality's at once and honestly I didn't know which one was real, but the bottle almost felt sacred, it felt like when I took the lid off of it (and also didn't) a huge amount of energy was released. It must have taken me about 5 minutes from grabbing the bottle to me drinking it, and then I simply just dropped it on the floor and want into a different reality.
At this point I almost started to get scared, I tried to convince myself that it was simply just a drug but It felt like I had ruined everything, I had done this and I would be like it for eternity forever changing reality and I honestly didn't know what was real anymore, i didn't know where I was or if I was even alive. This is what I though it was like to be dead, i could live exactly how I wanted to and live as many imaginary lives as I wanted. But then It came to my mind that I am In my bedroom and that there was something happening to me. Although some people had said it, I had not thought it was actually true. At that point I was voilently sick over the side of my bed onto my bedroom floor, several times. I am not sure if this is the reason but I was told that weed, even if smoked the previous day can make you sick on ketamine. I had not smoked weed during the high because I didn't want to change the high at all, but I had that morning and If what people have said is true that could have been what has made me sick. It came out of no where, I didn't understand what was happening to me but I simply accepted it as I had no control over myself still at that point and continued to ride in and out of hyperspace.
The whole peak of the high where I had no control over myself must have lasted just over 2 hours and 15 minutes, as I looked at the clock just after I came back into the living world. I was shocked by this, as I had thought that it only lasts about an hour but I think this must be due to the amount I unintentionally took. When I turned my tv back on I was only listening to my music for about 11 minutes since I snorted my first line, which amazed me because from the start to unplugging the music felt like about an hour and the whole experience felt like an eternity.
I still don't know what to think about the high at the moment, but my head is still spinning and I almost feel wrong, and that things aren't right currently.
I don't know, but that was one hell of a trip, but I'm now off to clean up my sick ;D.
Thanks for your advice, but nothing could have prepared me for that lol,
Locker.
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So your a puker huh, common with K, especially with Alcohol. See people spewing all night on it, gross really lol
Learn from that man! K Holes are not my cup of tea either, many take it once and never do again! I did warn you lol K either does very little or to much, I have never found a middle ground. I chose to avoid it, all my mates do it all the time. I say no to it very easily!!
There is nothing else like the K buzz though, other than PCP and synthetic versions.
LSD, Shrooms and Mescaline are all quite similar in effect. 2C family drugs are close, but can be milder (2CB / 2CI, others ARE NOT!!)
Again you can end up in a very similar situation to a K hole, but worse on any of these drugs. Freaking out on a trip can last 8-12 hours (compared to a 45 minutes - 2 hours in a K hole), you can move around on it (very dangerous) and the truth is some people never come round (its rare but I know 2 friends now fucked from LSD)... Its prob won't happen to you and im not trying to scare monger.
Just be mindful man, don't do them alone and your enjoy them more if you take with friends to share the experience. K its not so important as you cant talk to anyone while on it anyway lol
Stay safe my friend! A good trip will leave you in a good place, you won't be questioning it, your learn something deep and meaningful about yourself that's for sure. NEVER had that from K myself, tried it a good few times, always left thinking... Jesus christ why did I do that, that was horrible...
NO FUN IN K FOR ME MAN
NOTHING will prepare you for tripping either lol Much like K, once you in it your in it, and its a much longer ride thats for sure
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If your still curious man and that's not left you too shaken (takes me bloody days to get over a K hole) I would still recommend 2CB man.
Its cheap, your get a 20MG dose for a fiver on here, I have trusted vendors UK to UK if you need man. Just do a 10MG line first and wait for 30 mins.. It wont kick in instantly man, no drug will!!
Its very mild man, your get a bit edgy first 30 mins, might sweat a bit too, its a new experience that's normal. Things get colorful, you feel a bit relaxed, its not full on tripping on a low dose, things will bend and twist a little, but its all very manageable. Best thing is mentally, on low doses your very "with it", almost sober...
Really you want to be with people on 2CB, I dont see the point in a solo venture. Its one you can take outside easy enough. Get out into the country man, best place to be tripping imo
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Thank you, I think 2c-b is going to be my next venture into psychedelics and new drugs.
Honestly, I think the reason it turned so quickly is because of the stupid amount that I did, as everyone was recommending 200-300mg and I went and took 500mg. I can remember extremely vividly, over about 30 seconds I went back and forth and done every single line that I had split up (Unable to control myself).
I still don't know what to think of the high, at the moment I feel very dizzy and strange, almost that I do not belong here but I think that's just the shock from the high haha. ;D
I had not had any alcohol, but did smoke weed the morning before and I've heard that that can cause sickness, or it may have been the disgusting drip that I remember in the first few minutes before I fell into the oblivion.
Also, when you say that no drug will kick in instantly, maybe not quite instantly but within about a minute I was feeling it, and by 5-10 minutes I was at peak. Even though it was vivid I know this because as i said, the first 11 minutes felt like an hour as the music was basically controlling me, and then I unplugged it.
I have to say though, there were points that were quite enjoyable but it was just the fact that I was unable to control myself that I maybe didn't enjoy,
Locker.
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Some people are always sick on K no matter what, I call them pukers,maybe your one :)
Keep us posted on the 2CB, been an interesting read all this :)
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Some people are always sick on K no matter what, I call them pukers,maybe your one :)
Keep us posted on the 2CB, been an interesting read all this :)
Haha I sure will, will have to make sure that I don't go straight in at twice a strong dose this time though lol.
And it looks like it, it was pretty voilent puking and I hadn't eaten for at least 4/5 hours before dosing. :/
300th post ;D
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I've never had a bad time on 2cb - it's just so easy going. Perfect for a first time psychedelic experience. the phens and tryptamines are totally different to k and other dissociative though. I find there's no fear in K you simply merge with the universe which turns out to be your couch...
I will say that if you want to experience the K hole again you make sure you keep your usage of K minimal because if you use it casually/recreationally and for a K hole then your tolerance will sky rocket. And that's just with maybe 1+g a week.
Also if you snort 2cb it's very painful and personally i wouldn't snort it. As long as you don't go over 30mg oral(that's still a high dose for a first time 20-25mg would be ideal) you should have a great time on 2cb. The K experience should at least give you a glimpse of what your mind can get up to which should mean that you can (hopefully) control your trip a little better.
I also find magic mushrooms more intense than LSD. I'm not sure if that's down to dosing though. Out somewhere in nature is the perfect place to do psychedelics. The beach on a quiet day watching the sunset is just magical when your tripping.
Gain some understanding of these chems then when you feel ready, DMT is the king of all psychedelics. Only 2 drugs have got me into my version of heaven - K and DMT. The K also fucked me up for a while so be aware that it can be psychologically addictive whereas the phens and tryptamines require a lot of effort to abuse because they can be mentally taxing. It's almost as if they are self regulating...
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It wont kick in instantly man, no drug will!!
Smoking DMT, meth, opiates. Shooting pretty much any drugs especially LSD. I could continue. Sorry to be a dick :P
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It wont kick in instantly man, no drug will!!
Smoking DMT, meth, opiates. Shooting pretty much any drugs especially LSD. I could continue. Sorry to be a dick :P
I meant with snorting it man, not smoking or I/V those can get instant :p
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Wow, last night was probably one of the best and worst nights of my life, definitely one of the weirdest. I have to say i was not expecting something like what happened, and it came so quickly and almost scared me a little coming up. I knew i should have made sure that I only had on the case the amount I was snorting and shouldn't have left all 500mg in front of me; I remember snorting the initial 150mg line, It was completely harsh and I felt like I was going to be stuck with a horrible drip for the rest of the high, but after about 2 minutes that left so I decided to bump a further 50mg line as it was coming up, but unaware to me during the high I had completely cleaned off the ketamine from the case, meaning that I had snorted a total of 500mg within the first 5-10 minutes (As it only took 5 minutes to come up).This started to scare me a little bit, but I quickly lost all of my thoughts being thrown into the void. This I think was the turning factor for the high.
I had my headphones plugged into the TV, and I found the music to fit perfectly with the drug and I believe it completely changed the start of the high, and it almost felt like the music was my life, and I couldn't do anything without it, and it almost controlled me in a way but this is hard to explain, this is when i started to completely space out and go into a different reality (I was listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWpSbTdNMjk). My whole reality was warping with the music, my movements were somewhat robotic and I had little to no control over myself at all, I was forced to just go with the high and let it do whatever it wanted.
Then, as my whole body 'jolted' left and right for whatever reason (very vague memory's at this point), and my headphones actually got pulled out and the music started playing out of the TV. At this point it snapped me out of the small 'trance' I was in and I went and unplugged the tv; It must have took me about 30 seconds, I felt as if I had just jumped up 100m into the air and I was slowly falling, grabbing the plug out and then falling back into the bottomless pit that my consiousness was getting pulled down through my pillow.
I was expecting my body to become completely numb and I would be sitting still for the high, but it was completely the opposite; it was like my body became my mind and consciousness and my mind became my body, they both moved in complete unity and pretty much became one. I was cycling through different places and states it seemed to me that I was living about 5 different reality's and consciousness' at once, all seemed to be a variation of another and slightly different. For example, at one point It seemed almost impossible to even swallow, when i tried my whole reality just shook and I was unaware of what was happening, so I gained enough control to grab for the bottle of water that was next to me (thank you for telling me to bring one, It helped alot). It was like the bottle both existed and didn't exist, it was there but it also wasn't, i was living out different reality's at once and honestly I didn't know which one was real, but the bottle almost felt sacred, it felt like when I took the lid off of it (and also didn't) a huge amount of energy was released. It must have taken me about 5 minutes from grabbing the bottle to me drinking it, and then I simply just dropped it on the floor and want into a different reality.
At this point I almost started to get scared, I tried to convince myself that it was simply just a drug but It felt like I had ruined everything, I had done this and I would be like it for eternity forever changing reality and I honestly didn't know what was real anymore, i didn't know where I was or if I was even alive. This is what I though it was like to be dead, i could live exactly how I wanted to and live as many imaginary lives as I wanted. But then It came to my mind that I am In my bedroom and that there was something happening to me. Although some people had said it, I had not thought it was actually true. At that point I was voilently sick over the side of my bed onto my bedroom floor, several times. I am not sure if this is the reason but I was told that weed, even if smoked the previous day can make you sick on ketamine. I had not smoked weed during the high because I didn't want to change the high at all, but I had that morning and If what people have said is true that could have been what has made me sick. It came out of no where, I didn't understand what was happening to me but I simply accepted it as I had no control over myself still at that point and continued to ride in and out of hyperspace.
The whole peak of the high where I had no control over myself must have lasted just over 2 hours and 15 minutes, as I looked at the clock just after I came back into the living world. I was shocked by this, as I had thought that it only lasts about an hour but I think this must be due to the amount I unintentionally took. When I turned my tv back on I was only listening to my music for about 11 minutes since I snorted my first line, which amazed me because from the start to unplugging the music felt like about an hour and the whole experience felt like an eternity.
I still don't know what to think about the high at the moment, but my head is still spinning and I almost feel wrong, and that things aren't right currently.
I don't know, but that was one hell of a trip, but I'm now off to clean up my sick ;D.
Thanks for your advice, but nothing could have prepared me for that lol,
Locker.
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I don't like tripping personally, but Looker your writing is so fantastic it really makes me feel like I was right there with you the whole time. You really do have quite a talent! So refreshing to see through the eyes of a young person so interested in "experiencing" all aspects of "life". You really made my day just wanted to thank you for that!
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This is what I though it was like to be dead, i could live exactly how I wanted to and live as many imaginary lives as I wanted.
Might be of interest, http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-134936.html
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Ok, there's been a slight change. ;D I have been trying to persuade my friend to try something other than weed (suggested a psychedelic or a drug somewhat more intense than weed), and his blunt no was justified by the fact that he did not want to take any random, unknown chemicals like lsd or 2cb, that could go completely wrong and make you go crazy, (As he had a friend that had several seizures after taking 'LSD' [which I believe was just a bad acid substitute]), which I found rather ironic considering he takes street coke that did almost nothing for me... lol. After he said this I went on to recommend shrooms, and continued to explain that they just give you a buzz and make you feel good, and are just like eating mushrooms. He seemed to be somewhat intrigued, and after several days of giving him the 'they're grown out of the ground and are completely natural' speech he came round and decided he would give them a go. So it looks like I'm doing some shrooms ;D;
Now I have no knowledge or clue about the dosage, high or shrooms in general. So I just have a few questions;
Can anyone recommend a good (prefferably UK domestic) Vendor for shrooms? I don't know about the types of shrooms, which should I buy?
I want to have a decent high, but not one that will last too long and come as a shock, how should I go about the dosage? And speaking about the length, how long on average will a medium high last for, and how long will pupil dilation last? (As i've seen shroom eyes are massive, and although I won't be at home when taking I will have to go home the same day [consume in the morning, go back in the evening] so will my eyes be dilated?
Thank you all in advance,
Locker.
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I can't recommend vendors as I've never purchased shrooms from here but as for everything else it depends. The most common shrooms that everyone does are psilocybe cubensis. Cubensis mushrooms. Cyanescens are suppose to be more potent by the gram but there's only one listing, I can only comment on Cubensis anyways as that's all I've ever done.
As far as dosage I'd recommend nothing less than 3.5 grams per person especially since it won't be a solo trip, anything less will be pretty on the low-medium side as far as strength goes. 3.5 and higher for a medium-strong trip. Everyone is different but 3.5 for me was pretty nice, it felt amazing it's been a while but it was pretty amazing and quite psychedelic. You can eat them but I'd prefer tea or lemon tek. Tea is probably the way to get the most out of them in my opinion though.
They kick in about 30 minutes to an hour after you ingest and should last at least 8-9 hours. Can't comment on the length of pupil dilation though I never really pay attention to mine but they do get dilated that's for sure lol.
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I can't recommend vendors as I've never purchased shrooms from here but as for everything else it depends. The most common shrooms that everyone does are psilocybe cubensis. Cubensis mushrooms. Cyanescens are suppose to be more potent by the gram but there's only one listing, I can only comment on Cubensis anyways as that's all I've ever done.
As far as dosage I'd recommend nothing less than 3.5 grams per person especially since it won't be a solo trip, anything less will be pretty on the low-medium side as far as strength goes. 3.5 and higher for a medium-strong trip. Everyone is different but 3.5 for me was pretty nice, it felt amazing it's been a while but it was pretty amazing and quite psychedelic. You can eat them but I'd prefer tea or lemon tek. Tea is probably the way to get the most out of them in my opinion though.
They kick in about 30 minutes to an hour after you ingest and should last at least 8-9 hours. Can't comment on the length of pupil dilation though I never really pay attention to mine but they do get dilated that's for sure lol.
Thanks,
how do mushroom caps (as in capsules) compare? UKShrooms sells 7g capsules which I assume would be enough for both of us and save us having to eat/drink mushrooms (Which I hate the taste of).
And man, shrooms are expensive, was never expecting a trip to cost that much ::)
But I don't mind, I'm willing to invest into my first psychedelic, and with a friend lol ;D
Locker.
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Capsules are just like eating them basically, I can't really say for sure what you should expect as everyone has different reactions to mushrooms. Lot's of people eat shrooms and enjoy them, but for me it ruins the trip. My stomach just isn't meant for eating them. Now I've never actually ground shrooms up into dust and maybe dust/powder would be easier on the stomach for consumption but as far as shroom chunks and just eating them whole I find that I feel quite bloated and for most of the trip I'm dealing with a very upset stomach.
As far as the taste if you decide to take the capsules apart and consume them in a different way I find that mixing the shrooms with green tea or some other tea, adding sugar and or honey can take away from the bad taste and make it easier to down the drink. I'd highly recommend this method as I said everyone is different but from my experience I'd think you guys will enjoy the shrooms much more when consumed as tea.
The lemon tek is quite good for taste too. lemon tek is simple just squeeze juice from a real lemon into a cup, chop shrooms up nicely and let them sit 20-30 minutes, drain shroom juice into another cup (optional) and down shot. It's really almost no shroom taste at all. To me it feels quite different than tea or eating, I don't really know how to explain it as I've only done it a few times but it's worth trying out if you have extra shrooms to play around with.
I can't really offer any advice on any high dosages though as the highest I've ever consumed at one time is 1/8th. If you plan on purchasing the 7g capsules and plan on taking one each maybe someone else can chime in on what you can be expecting but I know what ever happens if you eat them you'll probably be tripping too hard to be worried about anything else so everything I just said may be irrelevant ;D
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Capsules are just like eating them basically, I can't really say for sure what you should expect as everyone has different reactions to mushrooms. Lot's of people eat shrooms and enjoy them, but for me it ruins the trip. My stomach just isn't meant for eating them. Now I've never actually ground shrooms up into dust and maybe dust/powder would be easier on the stomach for consumption but as far as shroom chunks and just eating them whole I find that I feel quite bloated and for most of the trip I'm dealing with a very upset stomach.
As far as the taste if you decide to take the capsules apart and consume them in a different way I find that mixing the shrooms with green tea or some other tea, adding sugar and or honey can take away from the bad taste and make it easier to down the drink. I'd highly recommend this method as I said everyone is different but from my experience I'd think you guys will enjoy the shrooms much more when consumed as tea.
The lemon tek is quite good for taste too. lemon tek is simple just squeeze juice from a real lemon into a cup, chop shrooms up nicely and let them sit 20-30 minutes, drain shroom juice into another cup (optional) and down shot. It's really almost no shroom taste at all. To me it feels quite different than tea or eating, I don't really know how to explain it as I've only done it a few times but it's worth trying out if you have extra shrooms to play around with.
I can't really offer any advice on any high dosages though as the highest I've ever consumed at one time is 1/8th. If you plan on purchasing the 7g capsules and plan on taking one each maybe someone else can chime in on what you can be expecting but I know what ever happens if you eat them you'll probably be tripping too hard to be worried about anything else so everything I just said may be irrelevant ;D
Thanks for your reply.
I need to say first that when I said the 7g capsules, It would be between the both of us meaning we would dose 3.5g each ;D
I feel like it just sounds like a lot of effort to do all of that when I can just consume a few capsules with a drink, but that's just me. The shrooms caps are of course grinded, so maybe that would help. I would likely be consuming it in the morning on an empty stomach, so I feel that there's nothing else I can do as I can not really comment on the nausea until I experience it. :))
If I ever buy full shrooms in the future instead of capsules I will likely make shroom tea, but Shrooms are expensive damn :)) lol.
Cheers,
Locker.
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Seeing as I got screwed over with the 2cb vendor and had to be refunded, I've ordered some DMT ;D
I've been wanting to try it for a while and now took the step and done it.
Wish me luck ;D
Going to be doing as much research as I can until it arrives, so I should be ready (even though it's actually my first psychedelic ???),
Locker.
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^_^ very nice! enjoy the ride ;D