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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: Thetruthseeker1234 on July 09, 2013, 11:23 pm
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Hello all, I am in need of advice.
For my own personal reasons I am in need to flee from the police. My court date is coming up soon and I must be long gone.
I need someone to point out a flaw in my plan. Anything will do, I just need to make sure I am tight on this whole plan.
I am going to flee to either New York City, Chicago, or las angelos. These cities being the three largest in the United States, I figure I can live undetected in these area's. I have a large sum of money which will last me the year which I will be gone (I plan on returning for another private reason).
Everything is cash and I will pay for everything with cash. I won't have a cell phone or contact anyone. I will pretty much stay to myself. The only person I will contact will not know where I am and I will only contact him via tormail.
I will rent an apartment under fake documentation which I will buy. Ill have a credit card which I printed out corresponding to the same name as the fake Social security number card I bought from namedeclined and the ID I bought from teddanzig. When they ask for sorce of income I will quote my own personal business and I will most likely pay a few months rent up front.
I will probably just stick to myself in my room doing drugs all day and playing video games.
What am I missing or forgetting?
Sorry if the grammar/the whole thing is off, I'm pretty fucked up right now.
Thanks everyone
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subbing, this is why these forums are the best on the internet
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go where ever is furthest from where you are - and certainly most densely populated.
Southern California would be my choice.
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Holy shit this is surreal.
Can't give you advice, except consider if it's worth it if you get caught.
I mean, once you do this, there's no going back right? Things will only get worse since you're now fleeing from the police. Don't you lose your whole identity. It's not like those charges will go away after a year right?
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I would make a different buying account than one in this name as your open to attack already.
Proceed with caution buying any online fake ids, As YOU WILL BE ASKED TO GIVE YOUR IDENTITY ASKED TO PROVIDE PHOTOGRAPHS TO SOMEONE ONLINE WHO CAN EASILY SELL ON THE INFO !.
It usually ends up in tears or you get ripped of, and there is no exception.
Who you going to complain to for an illegal activity.
Neither here or the blackmarketreloaded, which is way worse for scams.
Then there is Atlantis, providing you don't get robbed of your BTC logging into it.
A Classic move by Atlantis on youtube,?.
Opening up a avenue of challengers to hack your arse..
Its reflecting its self here in recent posts(IMO) on the forums and people are losing money to the Atlantis Fake scam URL.
Double Check everything you do!. then Do it again... Way to many Phish sites out there.
Just NEVER enter YOUR PIN on a LOGIN PAGE.
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I would make a different buying account than one in this name as your open to attack already.
Proceed with caution buying any online fake ids, As YOU WILL BE ASKED TO GIVE YOUR REAL IDENTITY TO SOMEONE ONLINE WHO CAN EASILY SELL ON THE INFO !.
It usually ends up in tears or you get ripped of, and there is no exception.
Who you going to complain to for an illegal activity.
Neither here or the blackmarketreloaded, which is way worse for scams.
Then there is Atlantis, providing you don't get robbed of your BTC logging into it.
A Classic move by Atlantis on youtube,?.
Opening up a avenue of challengers to hack your arse..
Its reflecting its self here in recent posts(IMO) on the forums and people are losing money to the Atlantis Fake scam URL.
Double Check everything you do!. then Do it again... Way to many Phish sites out there.
Just NEVER enter YOUR PIN on a LOGIN PAGE.
After the first two sentences you lost me bro. Ha
But my buying account is different from this account so no worries.
So does anyone see any issues with this? Seems pretty fool proof as long as I don't fuck up.
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Your on the run from LE, I thinks you already fucked up.! :P
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You can only run so long man. Then when you finally are caught, your punishment will be much more severe, not to mention you wont have time to say your goodbyes and take care of everything that would be needed to be taken care of.
Not to mention, you'll lose your identity, friends, family, life, everything.
Fight it, or just swallow it and serve your time.
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Your on the run from LE, I thinks you already fucked up.! :P
Haha
This is a very specific case and In a year when I come back I will be free. This is why I am asking on here. I need a second opinion on this. If something I am saying isn't making sense please let me know, but as it would seem I shouldn't be caught.
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1. Just because those cities are the largest doesn't mean they're the easiest to be a ghost in. Yes they have huge population concentrations that make it improbable to be caught but they are also under the most powerful magnifying glass. There are surveillance systems being developed now that work through street and corner CCTV cameras and use facial recognition software to match ID points of the picture to online profiles. The system is still in the works so who knows when we'll truly be in the Orwellian vision of surveillance that knows everything at all times, but NYC will be one of the first places its implemented when it comes and LA and Chicago will follow suit. Those cities are practically their own mini police states. I would recommend moving either rural or suburban, but you could probably do well in a smaller city like Tampa. The key thing though is to not go anywhere that you've been in the last few years, don't go anywhere that you have any contact with and don't go anywhere that you've ever talked about going (either online or IRL). Do you really want to take the chance that someone will care enough or get lucky enough to pick up a thread and follow it to you?
2. I'd recommend taking more than enough if possible. Have some cash set aside specifically for an emergency. As for your other finances I'm not sure how well fakes and false CC's can be done these days but if you feel the quality is high enough go for it. It's still risky though and you're still banking on not getting caught for financial fraud, something that iirc the fucking Secret Service looks into. You should look into prepaid services like Serve or the like that offer a prepaid card and opt for those that don't require an ID verification; Should be easier than passing a phony plastic. To back up your funny finances I'd recommend doctoring up some phony utility bills under the matching name. It's not hard but do a good job at this and it could save your ass, because these days in my experience not many clerks think people will fake an itemized bill and ID card just to get a P.O. box under another name or whatever.
3. Always, always always use burner phones for records that are kept by people other than yourself.
4. Don't drive on a phony license, because if you get pulled the cops will run it through their system which is more intricate than just swiping the barcode for info. And you will be royally fucked on every charge they can think of, evading justice falsifying ID and financial documents and whatever you were on the hook for to begin with just to start.
5. It will be tempting, hell it's tempting to everyone, but DON'T talk about your old life in your new city. That you is gone, he's not coming back. It seems cynical but really you never know who you can trust and your new best meth buddy and friend in your new city may flip on you if they think it'll net them less attention or some reward cash. Even if they don't flip on you mistakes can be made and it's just not worth it. Don't keep up with ANY online profiles, not even SR that you have had before running, because it can easily be flagged and traced.
If I can think of anything else I'll edit this and good luck, best wishes to ya!
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MEXICO
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No advice I could give but just want to wish you good luck and ask that you just dont hurt any innocent people trying to flee as that is a dick move.
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MEXICO
Need to be able to speak Spanish though
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get a fake passport, go international
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get a fake passport, go international
A good fake passport isn't easy though. They have digital checks in there and prints nowadays.
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If you have the money to live without working for a year in any of those cities, you have the money to take a private flight to south america.
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Stay out of NYC...Bloomberg has a police force the size of most national armies. How much time are you looking at? Prison is no fun, I was locked up before over some weed...not fun at all. The food is the absolute worst I found flies in my shit every day. The cells are cold, and the one blanket you get doesn't do any fucking thing.All you hear constantly is loud noises., it really start to bug you out after awhile. Not to mentioned I was attacked sexually by my cellie the first night.No I didn't get ass raped but I had to fight a guy off of me after waking up to him grabbing my dick.... Turns out the guy was a fucking pedophile who was insane!All over some fucking weed! America is turning into a police state leave the country and don't look back.South America has some countires which won't extradite...Just sayin'
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I've fled before, lasted about six months. Only flaw I see in your plan and thing I can recommend is never go back, as that is exactly how they caught me.
On the flip side, my advice is you keep going to court, get your affairs in order and just do the time. All that money that will last you a year will last you a lifetime in prison, so whatever sentence you serve you'll be living lavish. Sitting inside of your apartment room all day, getting high and looking over your shoulder everywhere you go isn't any way to live. Prison is actually very similar to that, so why waste the time? Not to be pessimistic but you're bound to fuck up at some point, so no need to delay the inevitable.
Like someone said before, you can only run so long before the past catches up with you. I say get it over with and move on with your life, keep your ties. All that fake documentation is for the birds, I just don't see how fake records are dependable in any way what with every apartment nowadays having a database that tracks how much water and electricity your room uses. Also, you say you'll reference your business but with no name tied to any real business and your tenant notices you never leave your room, eh, might draw suspicion.
Then again, it all depends on your situation. If you're facing twenty five to life I might say haul it and make the most of it in the free. But if you're looking at even ten to twenty, non aggravated - hell, ride that shit out.
Just my couple of pennies. Handle your business & wish the best for you.
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Neither here or the blackmarketreloaded, which is way worse for scams.
Then there is Atlantis, providing you don't get robbed of your BTC logging into it.
A Classic move by Atlantis on youtube,?.
Opening up a avenue of challengers to hack your arse..
Its reflecting its self here in recent posts(IMO) on the forums and people are losing money to the Atlantis Fake scam URL.
Double Check everything you do!. then Do it again... Way to many Phish sites out there.
Just NEVER enter YOUR PIN on a LOGIN PAGE.
Whoa, whoa, whoa!
BMR is a reputable site -- I know that SR and BMR get into scuffles sometimes but no need for the bashing.
Also, Atlantis may have come into being at a suspicious time (back when SR was being ddos'd to infinity), but it is also a fine site, even if it uses "controversial" means to advertise itself.
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Hello all, I am in need of advice.
For my own personal reasons I am in need to flee from the police. My court date is coming up soon and I must be long gone.
I need someone to point out a flaw in my plan. Anything will do, I just need to make sure I am tight on this whole plan.
I am going to flee to either New York City, Chicago, or las angelos. These cities being the three largest in the United States, I figure I can live undetected in these area's. I have a large sum of money which will last me the year which I will be gone (I plan on returning for another private reason).
Everything is cash and I will pay for everything with cash. I won't have a cell phone or contact anyone. I will pretty much stay to myself. The only person I will contact will not know where I am and I will only contact him via tormail.
I will rent an apartment under fake documentation which I will buy. Ill have a credit card which I printed out corresponding to the same name as the fake Social security number card I bought from namedeclined and the ID I bought from teddanzig. When they ask for sorce of income I will quote my own personal business and I will most likely pay a few months rent up front.
I will probably just stick to myself in my room doing drugs all day and playing video games.
What am I missing or forgetting?
Sorry if the grammar/the whole thing is off, I'm pretty fucked up right now.
Thanks everyone
What is it that you did? (No don't answer that). In most cases they're not going to send out a manhunt to find you if you miss a court date - at worst they might go knock at whatever address they have on record. More likely they'll just issue a warrant and wait until the next time you get pulled over. If it's just a year you might be better off just selling your car & laying low in your city until the year is up. And before you go to all the trouble of creating a new identity, try to find out whether your warrant is extraditable or not. If it's not, there's no need to bother with hiding. Just move to another state. (Even if it is extraditable you'd likely be okay - even interstate extraditions are expensive and many states won't want to spend the money).
If you do need to go into hiding, don't bother renting an apartment. You'll be more invisible if you can find someone who wants a roommate instead. They'll happily take your cash & you won't need to go to the trouble of setting up utilities etc & you'll save money by not needing to furnish the place. Plus they'll be happy if you keep to yourself.
I want to know how it is that you know you'll be free in a year. If you can avoid a prison term just by hiding out until it's over that's news to me. ;)
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oh ok
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Maybe consider not doing drugs all day if you want to keep your wits about you. Just a thought. Also, if you really want to be invisible, live as a homeless person. Nobody even sees them.
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What about the Mexico idea? I don't think you have to speak Spanish to go to Mexico? How about any of the border towns, people must speak English there. I guess main question would be if Mexico will extradite. Just guessing you could get into Mexico on your current 'real' identification documents, and maybe get back into the U.S. with those as well after the threat has passed?
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Hiding in a big city is MORE EXPENSIVE because it is a BIG City even large sums of money may not be enough for you. Everything from room, to services and FOOD is much more expensive there think 5-10x what you pay in a small state.
Cut off all ties to your social media accounts.
Never check your gmail/hotmail/yahoo again (they will all be subpoenaed and force to give up your info)
Do NOT use a smart phone in your name or a family name. No apps, no nothing. Android rooted if you have to under all new info.
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Then there is Atlantis, providing you don't get robbed of your BTC logging into it.
A Classic move by Atlantis on youtube,?.
Opening up a avenue of challengers to hack your arse..
Its reflecting its self here in recent posts(IMO) on the forums and people are losing money to the Atlantis Fake scam URL.
Double Check everything you do!. then Do it again... Way to many Phish sites out there.
Just NEVER enter YOUR PIN on a LOGIN PAGE.
I'd like to reiterate that if you fall for a phishing scam it's your own damn fault and not Atlantis'. Just memorize the URL! It's not that hard! Even if "atlantis rky4 es5q dot onion" is beyond your reach, at least be able to recognize when it's something different from that.
Best of luck, OP. Hope it was just drug use/dealing that got you in trouble with LE and nothing you should actually receive justice for.
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Get a novelty police uniform and jack a police car.
It'll be the last thing they're expecting!!
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No need to forge a passport. There is also the old airport trick that you could do with a friend to fly internationally:
1. Have a friend buy an international flight for himself
2. Forge an identical boarding pass with your name on it (easy, as you can print these out at home sometimes)
3. Enter the terminal with your real ID, fake boarding pass, and your friend with his real boarding pass.
4. Board the plane using your friend's ticket. In most US airports your ID is not scanned at the gate, nor when you enter security.
Good luck!
(Also NYC seems like a bad place to go to, cops there stop you for anything)
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Get a novelty police uniform and jack a police car.
It'll be the last thing they're expecting!!
I'm 10 steps ahed of you.
Anyway........
So I am now in a place very far away from my home. I have no connections to anyone in my passed life and believe I have pulled this off flawlessly so far. I'm staying in a hotel until I find an apartment that allows me to live there with zero references.
Saying: no connections to any family, I run my own business buying and selling items on eBay, and I have lived with friends since I turned 18. I am prepared to put down a few months rent. I figure worst case scenario, they just decline to rent me an apartment. None lossed non gained. Everything I say are basically going to be lies, but it will explain why I stay in almost all day every day.
I'm trying to figure everything out now and I am playing it by ear at the moment. Any more suggestions are appreciated
Thanks all
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It's easy getting into Mexico, it's getting back that is the problem.
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Another upcoming author. This is always a good read for the bored and adventurous.
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I wish you nothing but success on your turning invisible. Monty Python has a great skit about the guy trying not to be seen. As soon as he pokes his head out of hiding, he gets blown to kingdom come. Stay invisible. If you know you have to go into an area that is recording images, like a convenience or gas store, put something in one shoe to change your gait. Subtly change your speech by sticking a dental appliance in your mouth anytime you have to speak to anyone who might ever be called upon to remember you.
Never spend a large amount of cash in one location, with one person. That makes them remember details you might want them to forget. If you feel the need for the human herd, attach yourself to a tour group at a museum, dressing in nondescript unremarkable clothing. Nothing too flashy or looking like it came out of a rubbish bin. If someone asks you "what do you do" one safe response is "about what?".
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So if no body else is going to ask... what did you do bro?
Unless you're looking at 20+ years, you should really just man up and do what you got to do. Living on the run is not fun, I did it for 6 months before it finally caught up with me. The 24/7 stress of being caught is just so much.
But if you killed someone or committed a something serious like that (and I'm guessing you did, since you're fleeing across the country) then I would head to Mexico. Because soon you gonna have the US marshals on your ass, and sooner or later, they will catch you. They can make 100 mistakes and still be good, all's it takes is one mistake from you and you are fucked.
I know this is unsolicited advice, but why don't you take some of that money you have, and go hire yourself a really good lawyer? At least have a consultation with one, they are usually free.
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So if no body else is going to ask... what did you do bro?
Unless you're looking at 20+ years, you should really just man up and do what you got to do. Living on the run is not fun, I did it for 6 months before it finally caught up with me. The 24/7 stress of being caught is just so much.
But if you killed someone or committed a something serious like that (and I'm guessing you did, since you're fleeing across the country) then I would head to Mexico. Because soon you gonna have the US marshals on your ass, and sooner or later, they will catch you. They can make 100 mistakes and still be good, all's it takes is one mistake from you and you are fucked.
I know this is unsolicited advice, but why don't you take some of that money you have, and go hire yourself a really good lawyer? At least have a consultation with one, they are usually free.
It is a very strange situation. Strange enough that I could be easily identified if I spoke of it.
I will say this though. I have a very good lawyer/friend. He advised me on this decision to flee.
Again the idea is to go away for a small amount of time, which is looking like 1-3 years, then when I return I would be a free man, for whatever reason.
I didn't hurt anyone, and as I said, I am not guilty whatsoever.
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Do you consider yourself a rugged person? There is a lot of public land out there (national forests, BLM land) where backcountry camping is free. Outside of cycling into town for supplies you will never be seen.
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Seems like your pretty adamant about this, good luck with the james bond life
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If it's a prison sentence you are looking at....there IS no statute of limitations bud. You're lawyer "friend" must have went to a community college. The only way there is ever a statute of limitations is when you haven't been indicted by a grand jury. Since you have already been in court...you will have to be on the run FOREVER.
See, the judge will place a felony warrant for failure to appear. Your sentence will be tossed out...especially if it's a plea, and you will gain new charges ie: bail jumping and a Contempt of Court. Then, to make an example out of you, they'll run all of the sentences consecutive and your original 1-3 becomes a 5-15. Also, you will never ever receive any bail in any case ever again....
That seems like alot of needless bullshit for a measly 1-3 bro. I did six years and it was a cake walk...it ain't "Oz" fiction.
I have been in your predicament for 5+ years now and ya know what....it blows...hard. Slinking around, hoping you don't run into someone you used to know blows. Never seeing my family EVER again....not even a funeral....blows. Knowing that the Marshals will never stop (because they have no "cold" cases....they eventually get most people) blows.
Like you, I thought it would be like the fucking Jason Bourne flicks but quickly realized how much work it actually is to be seriously on the run.
I have this advice for you. Opt for an apartment in a poorer section of a mid-sized city like Salt Lake City, Sioux City IA, or Green Bay. These types of cities have 1/100th the police force as LA, NYC, Chicago, but are big enough to get lost. These cities also have high concentrations of Asian and Russian immigrants. Immigrants keep to themselves and could care less about the new tenant and what he does all day. Americans thrive on being nosy and snitching when it favors them....stay away from cities with low concentrations of immigrants of any kind.
I would also advise that you change your tactic of playing video games and doing drugs all day...lol...you've already been caught and just don't know it with crap like that. You should have a place which you can have a quick back way out. You should get familiar with the immediate surroundings and routes so you don't have to think on the fly while being persued by jack-boots who want nothing more than to rough you up or worse...it's no game to them and trust me bro...they take their jobs very very seriously.
When you find the right place, make it a place by yourself because roommates will get you caught very quick. If you're too recluse, they'll question. If you talk too much, you'll eventually get caught up in some lie and get caught. Perhaps a roommate will even rummage through your things while you are out. NO ROOMMATES!!! So you have a place...great...now up $50 and put a wireless camera at the front door. Then, buy a bar to put across the door on the inside...trust me, it will buy you the time you need to go out the back when the Marshals show up with that "No Knock" warrant.
Get a part time job, it makes you seem normal. Fake ID's usually work for more mundane, low pay work. Nobody scans them, and noone does background checks as long as you have the right personality for a runner...confident and well read. Be confident when you talk about yourself and never offer any information that isn't asked because you'll trip yourself up. Always quit in February and move onto another ID set because once the person holding the SSN you're using with your fake set does their taxes....the jig is up.
People wanna talk? Invent a story about a recent divorce and how you just needed a new start in *Any City*. This does two things for you. 1) Most people won't question someone too much about their past if they are aware of a recent divorce, merely out of respect. 2) It tells the person that they needn't worry that you don't have any friends because you are new in town...friends take time. This works.
You should also have a stash of clothes, cash, alternate ID in an airport locker...not a bus locker. A bus locker is good for two weeks max before the janitors pilfer then with the master key. Airports offer long term storage and are large enough to get lost in a crowd if the heat is too close. Their locker keys are also tumbler locks with no master so they're as safe as a safe deposit box without all of the paperwork.
You should always be persuing a flawless LEGAL ID as well. Fakes with enough credentials work for alot of things but every time you use them, it's stressful. A flawless ID set like you see in gangster flicks are available for purchase. They will pass governmental scrutiny, LE scrutiny....even loan officer scrutiny. If you know the right people, these can be bought for $15k ish. You'll have to travel to NYC or LA, but is well worth the investment. Don't go alone and only pay with travelers cheques. If the seller won't accept them, you're being scammed.
If this thread isn't some sort of hoax, I strongly advise you to re-evaluate your position. Do the time....it's nothing compared to what awaits you when you are caught. Your lawyer is an assclown and is giving you bad advice. Sorry to piss in your cornflakes but NO LAWYER would ever tell their client to run, so I question his motives. A lawyer is an Officer of the Court. That means that not only would he loose his license to practice law, he would face felony charges for aiding and abetting a felon. Sorry, but no lawyer would risk that for some wannabe runner with a one year sentence.
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I have everything you said down, or my own methods.
Again my situation is unique and my lawyer, who I have known since I was a child, is definitely no assclown. My decision to flee is a good one.
People wanna talk? Invent a story about a recent divorce and how you just needed a new start in *Any City*. This does two things for you. 1) Most people won't question someone too much about their past if they are aware of a recent divorce, merely out of respect. 2) It tells the person that they needn't worry that you don't have any friends because you are new in town...friends take time. This works.
You should also have a stash of clothes, cash, alternate ID in an airport locker...not a bus locker. A bus locker is good for two weeks max before the janitors pilfer then with the master key. Airports offer long term storage and are large enough to get lost in a crowd if the heat is too close. Their locker keys are also tumbler locks with no master so they're as safe as a safe deposit box without all of the paperwork.
These two paragraphs are fucking gold!!! I truly thank you for these.
I really appreciate this as I was having trouble creating a story.
Thanks everyone, I owe you madseason
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If there is any more advice anyone has, I'm all ears.
I think I'm 100% good as of this moment.
Just need to work on my story and getaway plan if things ever go south.
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Hope it all goes your way bro. Just don't get lazy about your security and always be aware of your surroundings as well as any suspicious vehicles.
Be very wary of dark colored Ford Fusions as well as dark colored Chargers. A contact recently told me that those two are now used more by Marshals than Impala and GM Suburbans because of the high volume of similar rental cars on the roads. They also seem to like p/u trucks. Fuckers are getting harder to pinpoint.
If you think someone is following you....they definitely are....listen to your Spidey Sense and never get involved with anyone or anything that you aren't willing to walk away from in ten seconds flat. (Stole that line from HEAT, but so true)
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Hope it all goes your way bro. Just don't get lazy about your security and always be aware of your surroundings as well as any suspicious vehicles.
Be very wary of dark colored Ford Fusions as well as dark colored Chargers. A contact recently told me that those two are now used more by Marshals than Impala and GM Suburbans because of the high volume of similar rental cars on the roads. They also seem to like p/u trucks. Fuckers are getting harder to pinpoint.
If you think someone is following you....they definitely are....listen to your Spidey Sense and never get involved with anyone or anything that you aren't willing to walk away from in ten seconds flat. (Stole that line from HEAT, but so true)
Honestly this might be the hardest most worrying part for me. I'm going to be driving myself bat shit crazy, with all of the paranoia I will have.
Then again, it is all of that insane paranoia which could easily save my neck so it is necessary.
I got myself a a bunch of anti spy equipment, so hopefully it all helps.
I was thinking of staying in a nicerish apartment. With the amount I make from the personal business that I will tell them I have, it makes sence. All though it would be hard to get one with all of the checks they do, if I got in then I believe that would be the safest bet.
Also, a shitty part time job seems like something I will need to be getting. It just brings out my largest fear of a social situation where I might slip up and say something. My biggest issue is I am a very outward guy, so it is hard for me to keep to myself, and a forced social interaction like work could pose problems.
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I was also thinking of possibly keeping a backpack on me at almost all times, that has a couple pairs of different clothes, different identifacatoin, and a grand or two.
That way if shit really did ever go down I could just move out quick.
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Don't keep up with ANY online profiles, not even SR that you have had before running, because it can easily be flagged and traced.
My bad if this is a dumb question, as I'm a newbie here, but I thought SR accounts and stuff were untraceable ?
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My only advice would be don't get in trouble with your fake papers. So many people have less than you will and go undetected because they are smart enough not to get arrested on the run for something petty (shoplifting/fighting/ect)
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Maybe consider not doing drugs all day if you want to keep your wits about you. Just a thought. Also, if you really want to be invisible, live as a homeless person. Nobody even sees them.
THIS THIS THIS. If you really really don't want to go to jail live as a homeless person. nobody is going to ask about another homeless dude. Hope it works out well. give us an update when your a free man please. I would love to hear your story.
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you are just asking yourself to get into more trouble. You will be found out.
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go to russia like that guy who leaked the government files. staying in the country you WILL eventually get caught
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Watch "going of the grid" from discovery channel?
Don't know how well it is as i only watched a little part but it seemed they were being thourough.
All i know..never ever go back untill it doesn't matter if you're caught or not.
I remember a bountyhunter i knew online talking about how he nabbed some people.
I knew him from browser games he played to kill time while he was waiting for suspects to show up.
At christmas he was doing a stake out at the houses of relatives of the woman he was trying to catch.
There will ALWAYS be someone blabbing about the return of a fugitive and alot of the times it's even the person you think you are visiting.
So don't ever return ,i don't care if it's christmas or whatever else could make you homesick or missing familiar stuff...
Wait untill it doesn't matter anymore..
I would not recommend to flee but if you do..you better damn well be disciplined enough to not make dumb mistakes..and this 24/7.
No rest for the wicked:D.
I hope things work out for you,one way or another.
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Seems to me that one of the biggest flaws in your plan is the "doing drugs all day". If you get accidentally found out, it would most likely have something to do with drugs, like getting busted in relation to a purchase, or being caught with drugs on you. Also, will your fake IDs pass credit checks? They check credit for electricity where I am. Going to a city in the USA and planning on staying inside and playing video games, will probably fill you with so much sorrow and depression after a few months, that you'll be sure to fuck up enough to get caught. If you leave the country, I think the best place to go would be Nicaragua. If you have enough cash to last you a year in NYC, for instance, it can last you 5 years or more in Nicaragua. They don't extradite. You won't have to live like a recluse, you can go about your business in the open, and hell, you can have a full time maid to clean your place and cook all your meals for $150/month. She would bring a glass of fresh made tropical fruit juice for Senor Truthseeker every morning when you wake up. You could live a very nice life there...I have friends that do. The language barrier really isn't much of a problem when it becomes a necessity. I know this from experience. You could start learning Spanish now, and know enough to get cab rides, hotel, and find a place to rent. Your Spanish could be "get by decent" in 6 months. You could learn to surf...now that's living life. If you stay there for 3 years, and learn Spanish pretty fluently, I can pretty much guarantee you won't WANT to move back...even if you're in the clear. You could pick a larger sized town near the beach on the pacific side, 1-2 hours trip to Managua Airport. There are many Americans moving there now, mostly for surfing, but many others for retiring in a cheap, safe place. It's the safest country in Latin America. The visa is 90 days for nonresidents, but the beauty is that, if you overstay your visa, the fine is $2/day that you overstayed, and they don't let you leave until it's paid LOL.
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Watch "going of the grid" from discovery channel?
No rest for the wicked:D.
I already did plus I have now read several guides/books on this.
And, "no rest for the wicked," is something I will be saying to myself over and over again throughout my 1-3 years.
Seems to me that one of the biggest flaws in your plan is the "doing drugs all day". If you get accidentally found out, it would most likely have something to do with drugs, like getting busted in relation to a purchase, or being caught with drugs on you. Also, will your fake IDs pass credit checks? They check credit for electricity where I am. Going to a city in the USA and planning on staying inside and playing video games, will probably fill you with so much sorrow and depression after a few months, that you'll be sure to fuck up enough to get caught. If you leave the country, I think the best place to go would be Nicaragua. If you have enough cash to last you a year in NYC, for instance, it can last you 5 years or more in Nicaragua. They don't extradite. You won't have to live like a recluse, you can go about your business in the open, and hell, you can have a full time maid to clean your place and cook all your meals for $150/month. She would bring a glass of fresh made tropical fruit juice for Senor Truthseeker every morning when you wake up. You could live a very nice life there...I have friends that do. The language barrier really isn't much of a problem when it becomes a necessity. I know this from experience. You could start learning Spanish now, and know enough to get cab rides, hotel, and find a place to rent. Your Spanish could be "get by decent" in 6 months. You could learn to surf...now that's living life. If you stay there for 3 years, and learn Spanish pretty fluently, I can pretty much guarantee you won't WANT to move back...even if you're in the clear. You could pick a larger sized town near the beach on the pacific side, 1-2 hours trip to Managua Airport. There are many Americans moving there now, mostly for surfing, but many others for retiring in a cheap, safe place. It's the safest country in Latin America. The visa is 90 days for nonresidents, but the beauty is that, if you overstay your visa, the fine is $2/day that you overstayed, and they don't let you leave until it's paid LOL.
The part about drugs and video games was more of a joke. I of coarse understand that if I were to continue to do any drugs while on the run, it would dim my mind enough were I could make a mistake. What if I'm tripping hard on acid and the police bust in. I don't think I would be able to escape very well.
This honestly is one of the things I hate most about fleeing. That I must change my drug and women oriented lifestyle.
Now that idea doesn't sound to bad about fleeing to Nicaragua. I am set on where I will be going as it is a good choice. I have now been convinced that if the situation arises that I must leave the place I have fled to in the United States, that I will leave the country. Thanks for your idea I will start learning Spanish immediately.
Now I just have the issue of how in the fuck do you get out of the United States with a warrant. The fake documentation means absolutely shit without a passport. I have looked everywhere to secure a legitimate passport, but it would seem I can't find any sellers. If anyone can help on that please do.
Thanks again everyone for your help.
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renting an apartment or a house is risky - i was a landlord for too many years (had 77 apartments) and most landlords, even small ones, run credit checks these days - you might want to consider going by whatever university is in the city you land in, and looking at the student msg boards for "roommate wanted" ads.
Or consider a mini-RV as in recreational vehicle (believe they're called the "C" class) - used ones are crazy cheap, decent used one can be had $8-12K - and the registration on it can help strengthen or re-inforce the id on the driver's license. The small ones don't get that bad gas mileage, but the nice part is you can move without packing, so changing locations will be easy. And checking into RV camp sites is easy, no credit checks etc
For awhile, i had a canadian driver's license - lived there for a bit and one of the local cops, seeing my US license plate pulled me one day to inform me there was a canadian law that if you were in country for more than 30 days, you were required to get a canadian driver's license. Went down to their DMV and it was stupid simple getting one and they let me keep my US license. - might be a good way to lose yourself in an id that will be difficult to check,
fwiw
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You can't.
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renting an apartment or a house is risky - i was a landlord for too many years (had 77 apartments) and most landlords, even small ones, run credit checks these days - you might want to consider going by whatever university is in the city you land in, and looking at the student msg boards for "roommate wanted" ads.
Or consider a mini-RV as in recreational vehicle (believe they're called the "C" class) - used ones are crazy cheap, decent used one can be had $8-12K - and the registration on it can help strengthen or re-inforce the id on the driver's license. The small ones don't get that bad gas mileage, but the nice part is you can move without packing, so changing locations will be easy. And checking into RV camp sites is easy, no credit checks etc
For awhile, i had a canadian driver's license - lived there for a bit and one of the local cops, seeing my US license plate pulled me one day to inform me there was a canadian law that if you were in country for more than 30 days, you were required to get a canadian driver's license. Went down to their DMV and it was stupid simple getting one and they let me keep my US license. - might be a good way to lose yourself in an id that will be difficult to check,
fwiw
My issue is I need to be alone and cannot have a roommate. I have my own reason for this, but it is a must I am alone in a private place. And as a 21 year old it is very possible to not have any credit history.
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Methinks MadSeason has laid it down pretty well. Heed his advice.
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If it's a prison sentence you are looking at....there IS no statute of limitations bud. You're lawyer "friend" must have went to a community college. The only way there is ever a statute of limitations is when you haven't been indicted by a grand jury. Since you have already been in court...you will have to be on the run FOREVER.
See, the judge will place a felony warrant for failure to appear. Your sentence will be tossed out...especially if it's a plea, and you will gain new charges ie: bail jumping and a Contempt of Court. Then, to make an example out of you, they'll run all of the sentences consecutive and your original 1-3 becomes a 5-15. Also, you will never ever receive any bail in any case ever again....
That seems like alot of needless bullshit for a measly 1-3 bro. I did six years and it was a cake walk...it ain't "Oz" fiction.
I have been in your predicament for 5+ years now and ya know what....it blows...hard. Slinking around, hoping you don't run into someone you used to know blows. Never seeing my family EVER again....not even a funeral....blows. Knowing that the Marshals will never stop (because they have no "cold" cases....they eventually get most people) blows.
Like you, I thought it would be like the fucking Jason Bourne flicks but quickly realized how much work it actually is to be seriously on the run.
I have this advice for you. Opt for an apartment in a poorer section of a mid-sized city like Salt Lake City, Sioux City IA, or Green Bay. These types of cities have 1/100th the police force as LA, NYC, Chicago, but are big enough to get lost. These cities also have high concentrations of Asian and Russian immigrants. Immigrants keep to themselves and could care less about the new tenant and what he does all day. Americans thrive on being nosy and snitching when it favors them....stay away from cities with low concentrations of immigrants of any kind.
I would also advise that you change your tactic of playing video games and doing drugs all day...lol...you've already been caught and just don't know it with crap like that. You should have a place which you can have a quick back way out. You should get familiar with the immediate surroundings and routes so you don't have to think on the fly while being persued by jack-boots who want nothing more than to rough you up or worse...it's no game to them and trust me bro...they take their jobs very very seriously.
When you find the right place, make it a place by yourself because roommates will get you caught very quick. If you're too recluse, they'll question. If you talk too much, you'll eventually get caught up in some lie and get caught. Perhaps a roommate will even rummage through your things while you are out. NO ROOMMATES!!! So you have a place...great...now up $50 and put a wireless camera at the front door. Then, buy a bar to put across the door on the inside...trust me, it will buy you the time you need to go out the back when the Marshals show up with that "No Knock" warrant.
Get a part time job, it makes you seem normal. Fake ID's usually work for more mundane, low pay work. Nobody scans them, and noone does background checks as long as you have the right personality for a runner...confident and well read. Be confident when you talk about yourself and never offer any information that isn't asked because you'll trip yourself up. Always quit in February and move onto another ID set because once the person holding the SSN you're using with your fake set does their taxes....the jig is up.
People wanna talk? Invent a story about a recent divorce and how you just needed a new start in *Any City*. This does two things for you. 1) Most people won't question someone too much about their past if they are aware of a recent divorce, merely out of respect. 2) It tells the person that they needn't worry that you don't have any friends because you are new in town...friends take time. This works.
You should also have a stash of clothes, cash, alternate ID in an airport locker...not a bus locker. A bus locker is good for two weeks max before the janitors pilfer then with the master key. Airports offer long term storage and are large enough to get lost in a crowd if the heat is too close. Their locker keys are also tumbler locks with no master so they're as safe as a safe deposit box without all of the paperwork.
You should always be persuing a flawless LEGAL ID as well. Fakes with enough credentials work for alot of things but every time you use them, it's stressful. A flawless ID set like you see in gangster flicks are available for purchase. They will pass governmental scrutiny, LE scrutiny....even loan officer scrutiny. If you know the right people, these can be bought for $15k ish. You'll have to travel to NYC or LA, but is well worth the investment. Don't go alone and only pay with travelers cheques. If the seller won't accept them, you're being scammed.
If this thread isn't some sort of hoax, I strongly advise you to re-evaluate your position. Do the time....it's nothing compared to what awaits you when you are caught. Your lawyer is an assclown and is giving you bad advice. Sorry to piss in your cornflakes but NO LAWYER would ever tell their client to run, so I question his motives. A lawyer is an Officer of the Court. That means that not only would he loose his license to practice law, he would face felony charges for aiding and abetting a felon. Sorry, but no lawyer would risk that for some wannabe runner with a one year sentence.
^^^^This. +1 Brother.
@OP: You said that you have a warrant, warrants don't go away. You've been charged, MadSeason is right, there is no statute of limitations for you now... nothing is going to go away in 1-3 years.
http://www.lawqa.com/qa/will-my-warrant-ever-go-away
Have a friend that just got locked up; he was just fishing, a fucking cop walked up and ran his fishing license. Guess he had a warrant from 95 that he didn't even know existed. And that's BS traffic court related shit!
Maybe your attorney childhood "friend" was screwing your girlfriend/has a crush on her and just wanted you out of the picture. Maybe he just secretly always hated you. Sometimes you never know about somebody.... you can know them for a lifetime, then they turn on you for the stupidest thing.
People run/flee for the stupidest shit. I'm in a bigger city and many people here are transplants. I know 3 people that fled their home state... 2 of them for DUI, the other guy for hit and run. They just got scared and feared the worst, so they ditched out. Like these guys thought they were going to do time lol.
I mean... if you're looking at life, then running is something to consider... but like I've said before on these forums, it should be the last resort. The case should be taken as far as it can, then if you have to, bounce at the very last second. You never know how court will go. I had charges in the double digits... was looking at a very long time, like 60 years. Got most of the charges dropped, and time was knocked into single digits... of which I only did a portion due to me being an ideal inmate/first time offender. I'm not going to say it was a cake walk, but I survived. Oh I thought about running... but I'm glad I didn't. I'm glad I can now try to move on with my life... don't get me wrong, being an ex-con sucks, but running would be worse. Imho, comparatively, doing the time was easy, it's once you get out that's difficult.
I was also thinking of possibly keeping a backpack on me at almost all times, that has a couple pairs of different clothes, different identifacatoin, and a grand or two.
That way if shit really did ever go down I could just move out quick.
I wouldn't do that... in one of those big cities, you never know when you'll be stopped and searched for no reason... well they use the excuse "terrorism". Like I think NY calls it "stop and frisk". So if you're carrying all that, not only will they steal your cash, you'll be busted.
Suggestion of becoming homeless: That's retarded... those guys get fucked with by police. Maybe you don't see it, but they do. Eventually you'll be arrested, fingerprinted and caught... especially once they see that you're not a junkie or crazy, they'll know something's off.
It's only a matter of time until these big cities are constantly running facial recognition on all their cams... automatic license plate recognition is already all over. These cities have cameras everywhere.
Good luck to ya though.
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The city I chose is big, but not LA, NYC, or Chicago large. Large enough to get lost small enough that there aren't many police officers.
Also now I have another question. This is really very complex, but......
What is the most secure laptop I can buy? Preferably for less than 600$. I can buy it off eBay so any suggestions?
I plan on taking my opportunity to be invisible, to vend on the road. I just need to be extra cautious. Please don't give me your opinion on that as it is something that I am going to do.
So this is really an opinion question, but what do you guys say is the most secure model of laptop?
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i would just remove the hdd from whatever laptop and run a live os with persistance.
good luck and be careful as that facial recognition software is pretty damn good these days!
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K, my one bit of advice on disappearing, and I've done it several times now. Don't use f**king tormail! you need to be prepared to have absolutely ZERO contact with anyone. Tor may hide your IP, but it isn't too hard to unmask it. A few clicks and some crap from my USB, and you're done. Cut everyone off completely-no exceptions. Also, if you're gonna be a druggie, make sure you can handle your sh*t. Can't tell you how many times I've gotten info out of people just by getting them high. You say and do stuff that you might regret when you're high, and that could easily get you found out. Finally, be ready to bolt at any time. The minute someone thinks something is up, you need to drop everything and get the hell out. No 'wait and see' crap.
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So your posting in a newbie forum? Are you researching a book or something? You don't even have to respond.
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You would be safer off buying all of your fake documents/ids in New York City. If you go down to queens and talk with some of the local hispanic gangs they will make you anything you need for a fair price and even get you into the system as a real citizen for a price. You can also rent apartments without questions about any personal income info or anything concerning yourself in the areas surrounding Manhattan.
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K, my one bit of advice on disappearing, and I've done it several times now. Don't use f**king tormail! you need to be prepared to have absolutely ZERO contact with anyone. Tor may hide your IP, but it isn't too hard to unmask it. A few clicks and some crap from my USB, and you're done. Cut everyone off completely-no exceptions. Also, if you're gonna be a druggie, make sure you can handle your sh*t. Can't tell you how many times I've gotten info out of people just by getting them high. You say and do stuff that you might regret when you're high, and that could easily get you found out. Finally, be ready to bolt at any time. The minute someone thinks something is up, you need to drop everything and get the hell out. No 'wait and see' crap.
I was planning on holding a connection with one friend over tormail. Can anyone back this bold statement up?!?!?!
From what I understand tormail is safe is it not? I mean if not why haven't all of the vendors on the road with tormail have been outed.
Also, I was going to ask this anyway. What is a second solution to tormail, for when tormail is down. And it does go off every few months. I was thinking hushmail through tor and privnote all messages emailed.
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Good luck!
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Keeping in touch with anybody from your past is utterly stupid for the reasons i already mentioned.
You either flee,get a new identity that will hold up when you have to deal with officials(you can be as carefull as you want,the chance meeting % is just too high) and cut ties with EVERYONE.
Or you will eventually be caught.
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a) you cant come back
b) leave the country brother, leave and never look back. good luck <3
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If you are going to communicate in stealth with anyone, at all...I am going to recommend www.truecrypt.org. It's cross platform and will run on almost anything. It also has a hidden volume feature.
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Make sure no one can recognize you, running into a group of old friends while you're trying to stay on the run would fuck your shit up.
I hear dressing like a women is favorable. The fat suit and everything.
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Just read through this thread.
I wish the best for you man. I only wish we could know if you were doin alright 2 or 3 years down the road, but by then you should have a new SR account, a new identity and no one should know what happened.
Good Luck!
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Allot of crimes have a statue of limitations, and its normally 5 to 7 years..
Iv been to prison 2 times for 11months 1 time and little more the 2nd.. I was told by my Parole Officer if i decide to run on parole the west coast is one of the places there not gonna drive to extradite me..
I max out my sentence next year so im not worried about it now, but i ran for 3 years almost, I stayed in the same town, but i used someone eles SS# AND DOB if i was ever ID and pulled with a friend..
I have done about 23 months alltogether and to be honest bro, if at the most your facing is 3 years, youll be outin 18 months or less. Prison is not like county, its allot more freedom and time FLYS by quick, U just dont go mixing your noise into business,dont gamble and try not to get involved with the Gangs..
But againyou need to ask your Lawyer what is the STATUE of Limitations on your crime. Then stay gone that long. In my state there is no statue of limitations, they will stay on u til you are caught.
If your gonna stay in USA, Get A SS# CARD, a Fake ID from a Out of state area mataching the name on the ss# card, Maybe a student id, The more stuff u have that says your you,even though its fake, its more likel;y u willget away longer..
Bro if you MSG ME, I wanna ask you something about some of the fake id and SS# stuff u order'd/
I have REAL SS# DOB AND A DL # fromsomeone that lives in the state im in... Hes 23..
Seriously MSG ME, I need to ask u something serious, cause i have a couple questions u could help on, annd since u read about all these u mayknow..
Also, U may wanna go to one of the 7 states where the DMV do not exchange INFO.. That way u can goin with a SS#(FAKE) SOME mail from a P O box openmaybe buy a fake birth cirtificate and u will be able to get a driver L.. Thats what im bout to do.
Or just spend 1000 bucks on a scooter, U dont need insurence or a drivers L, just a scooter L.. its low key will get u point A TO B..
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Sorry I didn't read all 5 pages, so sorry if something is repeated. First, I sympathize for your situation bud. Second, I would think long and hard about "fleeing" - the paranoia and stress alone from laying low is enough to make someone do worse things than they would do normally. A better option, be it harder to deal with at an earlier time, would be considering to put the money you have saved to hire a good lawyer. Unless you have already been charged and convicted, a good lawyer could be the difference between jail time and minor probation. Realistically, every drug user has probably been in a bad predicament, and carelessly thought about this same thing. Speaking subjectively, really how much fun would it be just "doing drugs and playing video games" by yourself for the long term? It sounds like you have already began the preparatory steps in fleeing, but this could literally be one of those forks in the road of Life that could dictate the rest of your life. The easiest road at first glance isn't always the best choice, as you make the first turn ahead you may end up right back where you started... Best of luck bro!
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I realize I'm rather new here an all, but I do believe the selling of TRUE credentials is strictly forbidden on SR.
OP...please do not listen to this dude or any word vomit he has spewed to you about using real ID's of 23 year olds. I will share some wisdom with you on why:
1) Using a 23 year olds credentials will get you busted almost as quickly as walking into a police station and confessing. If you plan to gain some type of employment you will not pass even a simple background check and a wannabe cop HR person is gonna blow the whistle on you. You may have "real" credentials, but you will know nothing about this persons history first of all. What if this dude has a parking ticket warrant....or WORSE???
Secondly, even a minimal background check that works off of just a DOB and Name will provide a history of previous addresses. You will not know all of that unless you perform a background check on that identity first. You could do one on clearnet, but there's so many different services with different levels of security checks that you'd just never be sure you won't get tripped up if a potential employer uses a different system or agency than the one you used.
HR people are PAID to vet potential employees and most companies offer bonuses for finding identity thieves. They do a very good job. I said all of that to say this: If you do not know everything about the real person like mothers maiden name, State and County of birth, prior addresses, then you sir are shooting yourself in the foot.
This is where a fake ID and a borrowed SSN beats out a real one....for work purposes anyway.
Background checks work like this:
HR does a criminal history search usually nation wide using a name and DOB. They can only return hits from public records such as criminal courts, newspaper reports, marriage certificate applications. If you provide a REAL persons info, you left holding the bag for their prior AND future transgressions. Dunno bout you bud, but that sounds pretty stupid to me.
Now...HR will run the REAL persons SSN and do an address search. This provides two things to HR: All known previous addresses, and any credit applied for at those addresses. Again...you will likely know NONE of that information, which could blow your cover real quick.
Now...let's say you order an ID from a trusted vendor here on SR. They are all good, but my vendor is AmericaID for Licenses and NameDeclined for SS cards.
Let's just assume that you can get a childs SSN. A child where you know the state/county they were born in. Let's assume that you have a SS card made with that number.
Let's further the story by again assuming you use that childs name on the ID but a random DOB. When you had these ID's made, they included the real middle name....only you add a hyphen and second middle name but no suffix ie: JR SR III).
Why will the above work better than a real ID? Well, let's take the first scenario:
HR runs a Name, DOB search and returns NO RECORD. Okay...so far so good. Now...HR runs that childs SSN to check previous addresses. A child will have minimal moves so you will have already provided that information on the application (such as making sure you provide the childs hometown high school on your application).
One thing people may not realize is that it is illegal for the Social Security Administration to give out ANY information when a minors SSN is queried. It is also illegal in all 50 states for any agency which deals in information....both personal and not.....to divulge ANYTHING about a minor...PERIOD. Minors SSN's are GOLD.
Why the hyphen? Because I know of no verification place...including the Social Security Administration which will accept a hyphenated name and it's a loophole you can use to your benefit. Always use the hyphen on every application. It will muddy the waters a bit because it is so hard to verify which middle name is used most. Also, if there's a problem, HR will likely approach you about the middle name issue...thereby giving you a heads up that trouble may be close.
Also...don't forget to put a job history around the area the child resides in. This is very easily done. Check around clearnet and search out "Job Verification Services". Spend the extra money on a service which also has a fake website online of the company they are verifying you work for...HR will check. This service is very cheap and will add to your credibility.
Lastly....I'd be wary of people in forums offering REAL credentials. Everything I state above will work because I have done it myself.
DO NOT USE AN ADULTS CREDENTIALS>>>>>>>>>>>EVER!!!!
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I would also like to point out that ALL states exchange DL info. From time to time I hear people say that some states don't...but that is a MYTH.
Alot has changed with Patriot ACT 1 and 2 as well as The National Defense Authorization Act. YOU SHOULD READ THEM.
If you are going to try to help the OP, I wish you would give the proper information instead of mere conjecture. IDC if you are a hero member or not dude...your information is whack and perhaps you should research changes in the laws regarding the exchange of information between state and government agencies before you offer "help".
Do you think for one second that most states have changed their ID's to prevent forging at the cost of tens of millions of dollars per state and yet they cannot run out of state DL numbers?? If that were the case, all one would have to do to run and never get caught is to goto one of those states and just live as yourself. You could get pulled over 10 times a day and the stupid keystone cops would never know!!!
LOL...c'mon man....that makes ZERO sense in the real world and besides that, how would one be CERTAIN that one of these states won't adapt and change to a nationwide system next week even if they weren't a myth????
NO...there's too many variables to deal with there that you could negate simply by using semi-fake credentials in the way I prescribed above.
Sorry for being dickish about it, but your information isn't helping the OP....it's hurting him. Since this is a community, I'd like to help the dude out and perhaps my advice will help him succeed...where he can pay it forward to some other SR member in the future.
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If there is any more advice anyone has, I'm all ears.
I think I'm 100% good as of this moment.
Just need to work on my story and getaway plan if things ever go south.
you should read through the totse archives
http://www.zoklet.net/totse/en/privacy/index.html
they are some what outdated now so you will want to consider modern methods and technology into the mix, but there will still be a wealth of useful information for your situation.
i would recommend this to start
http://www.zoklet.net/totse/en/privacy/hiding.html
but have a look through that whole section.
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Just Flee To Other Country....
*Buy a Fake Passport.
*Became a new man on the new country.
*Get You Life Settled Down.
That's my opinion / advise
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Hope the poster keeps us updated. Kinda curious!
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Also, U may wanna go to one of the 7 states where the DMV do not exchange INFO.. That way u can goin with a SS#(FAKE) SOME mail from a P O box openmaybe buy a fake birth cirtificate and u will be able to get a driver L.. Thats what im bout to do.
Or just spend 1000 bucks on a scooter, U dont need insurence or a drivers L, just a scooter L.. its low key will get u point A TO B..
Don't scooters get stopped to check if they don't go too fast,to see if they aren't jacked?
At least that's what happens in some countries.
Not sure about the USA.
An e-bike(one that looks like regular bikes) seems more stealth.
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Not much, but if your gonna assume a new identity it would be best to pick someone that is already dead, preferably a child. Read Kevin Mitnick's Ghost in the Wires. Great book.
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I hope you like living on your nerves because if you relax, you may let your guard down and get caught. I think I'd rather get someone to smuggle me across the border and try to pick up a fake local passport and ID once I'm there.
Good luck with whatever happens.
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Flee to marts
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If you move to nyc, don't fuck around around the cops. They're generally stupid and low class, and will throw you into the worst slammers for a few nights for catching you with weed, jumping a turnstile, etc. LA is to flaky, too polluted. Chicago is too violent, especially the Southside.
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How long would u go for if u dodnt run if I may ask?
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Eventually all of the deception, delusion and anxiety will catch up with you and the drug's won't help with it either, unless you are smoking weed to chill out few times a week, they will make your situation worse. It's one of the stupidest moves you could make. You want to be clearheaded when spearheading something like this you don't want to be on the edge from all of the coke you have been snorting especially when you constantly have to look behind your shoulder making sure you aren't followed, that nobody is talking about you or asking you questions you can't answer on the fly. Staying in your room all day also isn't a good idea, because your neighbors might get suspicious and in the worst case scenario just make an anonymous call to the cops. This may also cause paranoia and anti-social behavior. You want to be quite social (with the right people) so not to be seen as suspicious.
I haven't heard of a serious crime which will go away if you flee for a few years and yours sounds like it's serious. Hopefully it isn't murder or anything of that nature, and just something like tax fraud or embezzlement but if you really need to start fresh, best bet is to fake your own death.
You should really look into reading books relatable to your situation and looking at familiar cases of people who went away and never came back, or look at the cases where people were successful at disappearing but somehow got caught, learn from their mistakes so you don't slip up.
The most successful people who do this are the ones who are able to live their lives like normal people, going shopping, going to movies, socializing living like a normal person would so not to arouse any suspicion (unless you are on the federal wanted list then go to Mexico or Russia where it's easy to disappear and nobody will really be looking for you).
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I can verify that there are situations where running for at least a year, while out on bond, can indeed reduce your sentence in the long run. The same is true for probation, provided your time on the run outlasts your probation period. You will eventually end up back in front of a judge, but with the right lawyer, you can improve your situation. As a lawyer once said: "What's this about probation? The probation period is over. The fines are paid, a drug test passed, community service finished, all terms of probation were met aside from continuing to meet the assigned probation officer, due to fear of arrest".
You never said whether you are running from a warrant, probation violation, or out on bond? If you are indeed out on bond, be very, very careful when the bounty hunters come looking for you. They move very quickly to turn your entire network of friends and family against you. They are guaranteed to eventually contact the friend you are emailing. They hound people they believe to have any information relentlessly, and will eventually target all of their friends and family. The pressure is immense, and they threaten everyone they talk to with fines and criminal charges. In a very short amount of time they will force a leak if ANY of your friends, family, or locals in general know your location. People in your former circle of friends and family who they believe might be holding back information, they will track down daily and question, at work, friend's houses, in the car on the road, wherever. People get sick of them very quickly. If anyone says anything to you about bounty hunters, cut all contacts then and there, regardless of how close to you they are.
If it is indeed a true story, best of luck to you.
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Well for the statute of limitations bit, I can research it. Unfortunately, I am already away from my state so I can't really ask my lawyer anything anymore.
Also, as an update everything is going great. I am currently residing in a hostel as it is much cheaper than a hotel. I secured an apartment and I can move in, in two weeks. It's a beautiful place and not to pricey. Once the final move is made I am basically done and safe as long as I don't fuck up.
Anonymousaddict, message me about acquiring legitimate identification and SSN to boot.
I would like to operate with 3 sets of identification. One completely fake. Ted Danzig for school ID and DL, name declined for SSN card. SSN is non existent, but matches the names birth place and date via the likely SSN code.
Second, legitimate stolen ID. Full fledged and everything. Real SSN with it. I'll just have the card printed out by namedeclined. I'll make sure to know everything there is to know about the person I take.
Third is one like madseason said.
That totse archive is interesting. All of those articles are being sold for money on the road.
Now about the emailing with a friend. This friend had no idea where I went. I might trust this man with my life, but anyone will eventually crack. So I made sure he has no idea where I am. I even leaked some disinformation that I am in a different country which he bought so, I don't have to worry.
Thanks again everyone for all of the advice, keep it coming!!!!
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I don't know what just happened, but I think I accidentally locked my thread. I just unlocked it so keep the advise coming.
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If you stop posting, can we assume you got caught?
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You will not have any trouble getting into Mexico with a warrant. You don't need a visa, no one will check. The only time it will come up is at a US border or Customs check. BUT one question, are your charges federal or just state? Because if they're federal all bets are off, those guys are relentless. State charges, just keep your head down and stay out of trouble, they're not going to be crossing state lines to search for you. Unless you are wanted for something really spectacular.
Really. I've known people who were on the run for years. No contact. Learn all your info. Be able to answer questions like "What sign are you?" "What year did you graduate high school?" Stuff like that.
Good Luck
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One other thing, Why would you want more than one id? Just get a passably good one and don't put yourself in a situation where you will have to show it to a cop. Or find someone selling a birth certificate, with that you can get a real id. I know california dmv doesn't (couldn't) cross reference thumb prints. If your birth certificate is from out of state in my experience, (I've done it) the person at dmv wont know what they are supposed to look like. Hell there is so much variation in those anyway. That's my two cents.
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Sup OP ;) U one of us still?
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His court case isn't for a while I'm fairly certain he is lol
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If you stop posting, can we assume you got caught?
Ill keep posting responses as long as I keep getting new advice.
I really dislike that I won't be able to get fucked up, but I enjoy my freedom more then I do getting high.
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If you stop posting, can we assume you got caught?
Ill keep posting responses as long as I keep getting new advice.
I really dislike that I won't be able to get fucked up, but I enjoy my freedom more then I do getting high.
this word play makes me jizz my pants buddy lmao
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If you stop posting, can we assume you got caught?
Ill keep posting responses as long as I keep getting new advice.
I really dislike that I won't be able to get fucked up, but I enjoy my freedom more then I do getting high.
this word play makes me jizz my pants buddy lmao
It was unintentional.
Now this person keysoflight just Pm'd me for my number. Not even funny as a joke on here.
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now i dont know you
but you scream - information harvester.
i asked u for ur numbar. literally. lmao :D whats a numbar, fuck I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS.
someone who is in "your situation" is probably walkin the thin blue line
not runnin from it ;)
or writing a book. either way it sounds dumb.
my $0.02 sorry if im wrong, newb section = trolling to 50, then catch the big fish.
does sr have a big fish at the top? who cares.
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now i dont know you
but you scream - information harvester.
i asked u for ur numbar. literally. lmao :D whats a numbar, fuck I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS.
someone who is in "your situation" is probably walkin the thin blue line
not runnin from it ;)
or writing a book. either way it sounds dumb.
my $0.02 sorry if im wrong, newb section = trolling to 50, then catch the big fish.
does sr have a big fish at the top? who cares.
Please stop breathing my air.
Fuckwit
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so you are a cop lmao
Classic.
If anyone has taken logic, reasoning, arguments, or HIGH SCHOOL POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS CLASS.
you can see the AIR in this fellow's story.
:D Nuff said, leo.
My astrological sign is a leo, you however have another way to reference those three letters. dontchya.
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hm, what disturbs me is that everyone seems willing to help this guy out without even thinking twice of what he has done.
i dont know how the laws in the states work, so maybe when you have a courtdate set and not in jail/lockup right away, maybe its no serious crime.
but i, for one, wont be helping anyone out to escape the law if i dont know what the person has done.
i dont want to be considered an accomplice if the thing he/she has done is something awful/really bad.
sure TOR is quite safe so the risk of you helping out getting caught isnt big, but i would not want to have that on my conscience if it was indeed something really had he/she has done.
no, im not an LEA. :)
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hm, what disturbs me is that everyone seems willing to help this guy out without even thinking twice of what he has done.
i dont know how the laws in the states work, so maybe when you have a courtdate set and not in jail/lockup right away, maybe its no serious crime.
but i, for one, wont be helping anyone out to escape the law if i dont know what the person has done.
i dont want to be considered an accomplice if the thing he/she has done is something awful/really bad.
sure TOR is quite safe so the risk of you helping out getting caught isnt big, but i would not want to have that on my conscience if it was indeed something really had he/she has done.
no, im not an LEA. :)
Have I not said now several times I didn't harm anyone? Not only that, I have said that I am able to return in a couple years and be 100% free, so clearly I didn't do anything wrong. I was framed for something I did not do. I am avoiding being held for the crime I did not commit, and once court has been held and the case fully processed it will be apparent I am truly innocent.
Now again, I am not going to divulge the case in detail as I don't need to be fucked.
Please everyone, I truly thank you guys for your help and advice, but refrain on commenting if you haven't read through this whole thread.
Thanks again
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*sigh* idiots everywhere
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now i dont know you
but you scream - information harvester.
i asked u for ur numbar. literally. lmao :D whats a numbar, fuck I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS.
someone who is in "your situation" is probably walkin the thin blue line
not runnin from it ;)
or writing a book. either way it sounds dumb.
my $0.02 sorry if im wrong, newb section = trolling to 50, then catch the big fish.
does sr have a big fish at the top? who cares.
Please stop breathing my air.
Fuckwit
Hear hear.
Also I'd recommend OP buys a sawed off shotgun, several cases of both cigars and whiskey, and books it to middle-of-nowhere Kentucky. Also invest in a rocking chair for your front porch. Shoot anyone on sight.
Generally my pro-strat MO ...
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hm, what disturbs me is that everyone seems willing to help this guy out without even thinking twice of what he has done.
i dont know how the laws in the states work, so maybe when you have a courtdate set and not in jail/lockup right away, maybe its no serious crime.
but i, for one, wont be helping anyone out to escape the law if i dont know what the person has done.
i dont want to be considered an accomplice if the thing he/she has done is something awful/really bad.
sure TOR is quite safe so the risk of you helping out getting caught isnt big, but i would not want to have that on my conscience if it was indeed something really had he/she has done.
no, im not an LEA. :)
Have I not said now several times I didn't harm anyone? Not only that, I have said that I am able to return in a couple years and be 100% free, so clearly I didn't do anything wrong. I was framed for something I did not do. I am avoiding being held for the crime I did not commit, and once court has been held and the case fully processed it will be apparent I am truly innocent.
Now again, I am not going to divulge the case in detail as I don't need to be fucked.
Please everyone, I truly thank you guys for your help and advice, but refrain on commenting if you haven't read through this whole thread.
Thanks again
ok, youre right. sorry for not reading everything.
but, isnt running from the police nad skipping the court a felony? so in doing that youre actually committing a crime in that sense, and then when returning in a couple of years they will put you in jail for running from the police instead?
just sayin.. :)
if what you say is true, that you are in fact not guilty, then going to court would be the best thing to do.
sure they might put you in holding for a while, while sorting things out. but thats better than running from the law as an innocent man.
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now OP quietly disappears.
Fucking pigs everywhere man
SMells so delicious
gawd i love some bacon on my fucking hamburger
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hm, what disturbs me is that everyone seems willing to help this guy out without even thinking twice of what he has done.
i dont know how the laws in the states work, so maybe when you have a courtdate set and not in jail/lockup right away, maybe its no serious crime.
but i, for one, wont be helping anyone out to escape the law if i dont know what the person has done.
i dont want to be considered an accomplice if the thing he/she has done is something awful/really bad.
sure TOR is quite safe so the risk of you helping out getting caught isnt big, but i would not want to have that on my conscience if it was indeed something really had he/she has done.
no, im not an LEA. :)
You DO realize how redundant your whole post is right??
You are on SR for ONE reason...to buy illicit materials/drugs. Drugs which kill more people than heart disease. Is a murderer okay to help? Who decides which felonies one should not be helped for??
Spam some "feel good" site with your word-vomit....this is SR....and here....we help whomever, as long as they have the BTC's.
IDGAF what the dude did to be honest....the FACT is that the government has long usurped too much power which allows "them" to abide by a different set of rules than "us". Police are caught on tape beating citizens, shooting dogs, and SWAT teaming wrong addresses, and yet nothing happens to them....they are above the law apparently.
SR is a beacon in the dark for those of us that understand what true FREEDOM is and one day...perhaps you will come to see that all is not right with the world and rather than helping the powers that be make every citizen of the world a Felon, you will help a Felon beat the very system which grinds us all down daily.
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hm, what disturbs me is that everyone seems willing to help this guy out without even thinking twice of what he has done.
i dont know how the laws in the states work, so maybe when you have a courtdate set and not in jail/lockup right away, maybe its no serious crime.
but i, for one, wont be helping anyone out to escape the law if i dont know what the person has done.
i dont want to be considered an accomplice if the thing he/she has done is something awful/really bad.
sure TOR is quite safe so the risk of you helping out getting caught isnt big, but i would not want to have that on my conscience if it was indeed something really had he/she has done.
no, im not an LEA. :)
Have I not said now several times I didn't harm anyone? Not only that, I have said that I am able to return in a couple years and be 100% free, so clearly I didn't do anything wrong. I was framed for something I did not do. I am avoiding being held for the crime I did not commit, and once court has been held and the case fully processed it will be apparent I am truly innocent.
Now again, I am not going to divulge the case in detail as I don't need to be fucked.
Please everyone, I truly thank you guys for your help and advice, but refrain on commenting if you haven't read through this whole thread.
Thanks again
ok, youre right. sorry for not reading everything.
but, isnt running from the police nad skipping the court a felony? so in doing that youre actually committing a crime in that sense, and then when returning in a couple of years they will put you in jail for running from the police instead?
just sayin.. :)
if what you say is true, that you are in fact not guilty, then going to court would be the best thing to do.
sure they might put you in holding for a while, while sorting things out. but thats better than running from the law as an innocent man.
As I said I cannot divulge the case, but again, I know for a fact when I come back I will be 100% free.
That's all I'm going to say on this
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hm, what disturbs me is that everyone seems willing to help this guy out without even thinking twice of what he has done.
i dont know how the laws in the states work, so maybe when you have a courtdate set and not in jail/lockup right away, maybe its no serious crime.
but i, for one, wont be helping anyone out to escape the law if i dont know what the person has done.
i dont want to be considered an accomplice if the thing he/she has done is something awful/really bad.
sure TOR is quite safe so the risk of you helping out getting caught isnt big, but i would not want to have that on my conscience if it was indeed something really had he/she has done.
no, im not an LEA. :)
You DO realize how redundant your whole post is right??
You are on SR for ONE reason...to buy illicit materials/drugs. Drugs which kill more people than heart disease. Is a murderer okay to help? Who decides which felonies one should not be helped for??
Spam some "feel good" site with your word-vomit....this is SR....and here....we help whomever, as long as they have the BTC's.
IDGAF what the dude did to be honest....the FACT is that the government has long usurped too much power which allows "them" to abide by a different set of rules than "us". Police are caught on tape beating citizens, shooting dogs, and SWAT teaming wrong addresses, and yet nothing happens to them....they are above the law apparently.
SR is a beacon in the dark for those of us that understand what true FREEDOM is and one day...perhaps you will come to see that all is not right with the world and rather than helping the powers that be make every citizen of the world a Felon, you will help a Felon beat the very system which grinds us all down daily.
Mad respect to you bro
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I'm probably not the person to give you advice. But you can take this to the bank, Los Angeles fucking rocks! There's nothing better than waking up to sunny skies every day and then heading down to Venice beach and smoking marijuana in public and nobody caring. However, your plan said you will mostly be staying inside and playing video games so weather might not be that big of a factor for you. Maybe consider New York or Chicago.
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You DO realize how redundant your whole post is right??
You are on SR for ONE reason...to buy illicit materials/drugs. Drugs which kill more people than heart disease. Is a murderer okay to help? Who decides which felonies one should not be helped for??
Spam some "feel good" site with your word-vomit....this is SR....and here....we help whomever, as long as they have the BTC's.
IDGAF what the dude did to be honest....the FACT is that the government has long usurped too much power which allows "them" to abide by a different set of rules than "us". Police are caught on tape beating citizens, shooting dogs, and SWAT teaming wrong addresses, and yet nothing happens to them....they are above the law apparently.
SR is a beacon in the dark for those of us that understand what true FREEDOM is and one day...perhaps you will come to see that all is not right with the world and rather than helping the powers that be make every citizen of the world a Felon, you will help a Felon beat the very system which grinds us all down daily.
AMEN brother.
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I'm probably not the person to give you advice. But you can take this to the bank, Los Angeles fucking rocks! There's nothing better than waking up to sunny skies every day and then heading down to Venice beach and smoking marijuana in public and nobody caring.
Until a power hungry pig shows up and beats the shit outta you just because he can and then calls for backup because you were "resisting arrest". If you are going to disappear somewhere in cali go to San Francisco and get a prius (I even heard you can live in them) its like the perfect cover. There are more prius' than there are people in the city itself. Nobody will suspect you are running from the law and just think of you as another smug schmuck trying to "save the planet".
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Good luck bro, and remember there's nothing wrong with sucking dick for money.
It's all how you perceive it.
Unless you get syphilis.
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Strongly consider an exodus out of the states, where you can live like a king, and meager budget...consider mexico, greece, balkans....bounce from hostel to hostel, and see the world....
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Just figured I would update. I have already moved into my new apartment and I can't see anything going wrong.
Things are good for once in my life. If anyone can help me with either of these, I would be grateful.
I'm trying to get two computers, one for maximum security and Silk Road vendor account, then one for gaming.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=188802.msg1366487#msg1366487
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=188433.msg1366469#msg1366469
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Strongly consider an exodus out of the states, where you can live like a king, and meager budget...consider mexico, greece, balkans....bounce from hostel to hostel, and see the world....
i heard John McAfee's former residence in Belize is still available
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GOD DAMMIT! This thread is extremely entertaining. So many funny posts and to you truthseeker1234 I wish you the best of luck. Your plan seems decent but don't slip just because you're comfortable. Live day-by-day because every decision you make is important. Hope you pull it off and if all goes well I (and probably many others) would love some updates. Take it easy man and thanks for making my day lol.
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If I were you, I'd spend as much time as I possibly could learning about wilderness survival and making shelters and such. Then just take off into the middle of bum-fuck nowhere in Montana or Idaho or something...
Bring money, clothes, a couple knives and sharpening stones, a big axe, a tarp, some rope, and a SHITLOAD of books... just dig yourself a little cove in the side of a hill, miles and miles from any civilization. Have a little fire-pit and just read all goddamn day.
Every few weeks you might have to walk about a dozen miles out to a store to get some food and water and such, but you'd just be another weird homeless guy and they wouldn't give a shit.
I don't see any possible way you could get caught doing this...
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Why is it that so many people think hiding in the woods is a good idea? Following your advise, he'd be more likely to get caught, and also more likely to die. He's a drug loving, outgoing, computer nerd. Prison would probably be more pleasant than the self imposed solitary suffering you suggest.
A person wanting to disappear will be best off blending in. In the woods, your camp and fire stick out like a sore thumb. If you found a place isolated enough to avoid contact with wildlife officers/forest rangers etc, then you're far enough from help that you risk death if anything at all goes wrong.
People watch too many movies. These delusions of Rambo grandeur are as pervasive as they are short sighted.
On another note, I would suggest not carrying an id at all. If you get contacted by leo and give a cop a name and dob of someone with a valid license/id, he'll check the computer and see that person has a valid license and no warrants. A friend might give you permission to do this. It would be better if you looked similar enough to that person in the event an officer has a computer in his car which could pull up the image.
Also might be best to use an unusual name. More than one innocent person has been arrested for sharing a name/dob with a criminal.
I'll reiterate that driving/or traveling by any means requiring id is a terrible idea.