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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: Lazy Cloud on October 24, 2011, 11:28 am

Title: Aus Customs
Post by: Lazy Cloud on October 24, 2011, 11:28 am
So, has anyone in Aus been contacted by customs in regards to seized/intercepted packages? What happned? Do they just send you a "love letter"? Just wanting to get an idea of what to expect should this ever happen.
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: wrath within on October 24, 2011, 11:49 pm
If they intercept illicits and probably (some/most) RCs, you won't get any notice. No love letter, they only send letters for items such as lasers, stunguns, quarantined plant matter and benzos from those Indian pharmacies you can find with Google.

I know people who have had MDMA registered and tracked, hit Australian Customs (tracking info) and disappear. That's what happens to seized packages, they will just appear "lost". I've emailed some high volume vendors who have been in the game longer than SR and they say while they've had plenty of "lost" orders to Oz, nobody ever received a love letter (can any sellers shipping to Australia back up this statement? Not including benzos they send letters for those, but illicits just "go missing".)

Maybe they wait for a worthwhile amount to come through, or monitor that address for further shipments until it's worth their while to kick down your door.

Also post office controlled deliveries (when you go there to pick up something with those red slips) go down like so:
PO employee will go into the backroom for a while and call the police, tell you they "can't find your parcel", go back into the backroom to stall for time. They will ask for your name and phone number so "we can let you know if we find it" and then hand this info over to police who may or may not show up at the post office while you are there.
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: Lazy Cloud on October 26, 2011, 08:57 am
I suspected as much. I have not heard of anyone in aus mention as much as a letter regarding "lost" packages. But theres no shortage of people talking up about them for BB guns and the like. Interesting.
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: novocaine on October 26, 2011, 09:19 am
I have had a few SR orders stolen. No letter.
I do know of a few people who get letters all the time for seeds, plants and RC's so I know they get your substances. The letters for the RC's are to identify the substance (as if you would ::) )as is with the seeds and plants if they are not declared correctly or they seem wrongly identified... As for your other mainstream substances that get caught, there is no need for customs to get you to identify them:)
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: Lazy Cloud on October 26, 2011, 10:11 am
Well, lol, what is the purpose of sending you a letter to indentify a BB gun, or fireworks....lol

Its pretty clear wat those are, yet people get letters about those, but not drugs?

IMO its because customs realises, that currently, theres nothing that can be done in courts, about personal use amounts of X substance being addressed to a property/person. There is no evidence or proof of a transaction, and the logistics and funds required to do anything about it to the point of a clear proven conviction, is so staggering when weighed up next to a personal posession charge, they dont bother.

But im sure you dont want people coming to the conclusion that ordering substances international is as likely if not less to land them in court than if bought locally, right novocaine? Not very good for business, of which most aussies are ripping their fellow countrymen off.
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: novocaine on October 26, 2011, 10:47 am
weapons and fireworks fall into a totally different category.


IMO its because customs realises, that currently, theres nothing that can be done in courts, about personal use amounts of X substance being addressed to a property/person. There is no evidence or proof of a transaction, and the logistics and funds required to do anything about it to the point of a clear proven conviction, is so staggering when weighed up next to a personal posession charge, they dont bother.


Sounds like you have it all figured out.
Why didnt you post this in the countless other 'Aussie customs/ shipping threads. That talk about this very thing.




But im sure you dont want people coming to the conclusion that ordering substances international is as likely if not less to land them in court than if bought locally, right novocaine? Not very good for business, of which most aussies are ripping their fellow countrymen off.

If you have something to say just come out and say it. I have heard it all before.
But at risk of sounding like a fucking broken record....if you want to buy OS to save a buck and benefit from the low prices like I have then DO IT. If you dont want to risk an international order then buy LOCAL. If you dont like the LOCAL price BUY OS. If you want to whine about price join the rest of the whining crew in the threads about aussie products.
Fact is fact...domestic mail has less exposure to scrutiny than international mail. I have lost more bitcoin in lost international orders than I have received. When I get an international order I post about it....good for business?   pfffft just fucking relax aye
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: brockeh on October 27, 2011, 11:43 am
IMO its because customs realises, that currently, theres nothing that can be done in courts, about personal use amounts of X substance being addressed to a property/person. There is no evidence or proof of a transaction, and the logistics and funds required to do anything about it to the point of a clear proven conviction, is so staggering when weighed up next to a personal posession charge, they dont bother.

couldnt have put it better
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: Greynick on October 28, 2011, 02:41 am
IMO its because customs realises, that currently, theres nothing that can be done in courts, about personal use amounts of X substance being addressed to a property/person. There is no evidence or proof of a transaction, and the logistics and funds required to do anything about it to the point of a clear proven conviction, is so staggering when weighed up next to a personal posession charge, they dont bother.

couldnt have put it better

This.
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: dr octagon on October 28, 2011, 12:45 pm
(If I am not mistaken)  Unless the product reaches you,  the case is federal police jurisdiction.  Only if the gear is substituted and or allowed to go through into your posession does it become a local/fed joint case.  If they get you, you would face both state and federal charges.

I have heard through a reliable source (seems like common sense anyway) that the feds don't really bother following up and or coordinating with local authorities if it isn't going to justify their effort and expense. i.e no headlines,  bin it, or take it home!

However, I'm sure if you kept pushing and maybe there was some intel on you with local authorities as a dealer you could still end up under the microscope. If you think about it, them simply confiscating your shit that you paid good $$ for a few times would put most people off eventually...

Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: Def on August 21, 2012, 05:27 am
There is some good information in this thread.

I would be interested to hear what some of the earlier posters in this thread think of the following scenario, I thought I might as well post here rather than start a new thread.


A package containing a small quantity of a phenethylamine RC is opened and inspected by Australian customs. There is nothing to indicate the nature of the powder on the packaging anywhere. The customs declaration says 'documents'.

A slip is placed into the package by customs saying words to the effect 'this package was opened by Aust customs, nothing of concern was found and the package was therefore released for delivery'. The package is resealed by customs, marked as 'inspected' with a red sticker, then released for delivery. The intended recipient receives the package.


So my interpretation is... Customs opens the package randomly or perhaps because they have identified previous packages from this sender as containing things of interest. They find inside a packet of powder (this is straight away suspicious because the customs declaration says 'documents'). There is no identifying paperwork, again suspicious. Maybe they do routine tests on a small amount of the powder to ascertain if its a typical drug (MDMA,Coke, Heroin, steroids) (I'm guessing here, I dont even know if they have the equipment to do this). It turns up negative results. Unable to identify it as a common drug they are unable to confiscate it... after all it may be a legitimate dietary supplement of some sort. So they release it to be delivered. They probably take note of the delivery address so that future packages to that address can be inspected.

Im finding it hard to understand why an unlabelled powder, found in package labelled as containing documents, would be released for delivery, rather than 'disappeared'. If it was a 'controlled delivery', to catch the recipient in possession of a substance he had ordered in, surely customs would not have labelled it as inspected?



Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: jakeb52 on August 21, 2012, 09:58 am
old topic is old /
been gone over heaps of times
you want answers
you wants answers??
speculation is all we can give
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: Def on August 21, 2012, 02:28 pm
Who cares if its an old thread, the discussion is well reasoned and still very relevant. I read through a bunch of threads about this topic and this one in particular had a couple of good points.
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: Soccerpros on August 21, 2012, 02:36 pm
I feel sorry for you poor Aussies, so many ppl and not enough droogs  :(
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: Syrinx on August 22, 2012, 12:02 pm
I feel sorry for you poor Aussies, so many ppl and not enough droogs  :(

Haha. Well, the weed here is pretty good :D
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: some.bloke on August 22, 2012, 01:20 pm
anyone can send any package to any person at any address.

90% of the time if they seize it, it'll go in the 'pile'. THey may watch u over time, but they cant prosecute you unless they can prove the package was meant for you and you intended to receive it. To do this is a 'controlled delivery', and bah it hardly ever happens unless u are moving BULK.

Even if u r lucky enough to get a love letter, nothing actually happens to you. Its just a notification and has no prosecutable weight.

So with the first line in mind, just deny deny if u EVER get a controlled delivery. BUT remember the boys in blue do this full time and know all the tricks. They'll say shit that almost wants u to 'admit to something small' making u think they are not after u. IGNORE IGNORE DENY DENY. THe best prosecutable evidence they could ever possibly get is a 'confession'. Otherwise its tonnes more police work and tonnes more paper work, supporting documentation.

Someone told me that the 'current silk road operation/sting/strategy' is all about 'gathering eveidence' over time to use against you when they decide to act. This scares me a bit, as like others I have had MANY packages just disappear completely, with no tracking, no DSN, no alert/love letter or anything. BUT if i havent accepted these packages, then how the hell can they prove they were meant for me and prosecute me for possession/trafficking etc? I really believe they just destroy them and try to put usd off this whole 'mail order drugs' experiment.

 And for one, theyr doing a goof job here in oz (right now some po po is prob reading this and giving himself a pat on the back, and hopig for a bonus/raise). Fuck that, its a numbers game bruv. They CANT keep at their recent game for extended time. Police operations have a 'research period, a debriefing, a start date, plan of attack, execution, observation stage, and then a finale, and then results/review'. So let them get over their celebratory donut on a job well done, then its a super special Ozzie 420 sale byatches!!!! haha
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: novocaine on August 23, 2012, 06:06 am
anyone can send any package to any person at any address.

90% of the time if they seize it, it'll go in the 'pile'. THey may watch u over time, but they cant prosecute you unless they can prove the package was meant for you and you intended to receive it. To do this is a 'controlled delivery', and bah it hardly ever happens unless u are moving BULK.

Even if u r lucky enough to get a love letter, nothing actually happens to you. Its just a notification and has no prosecutable weight.

So with the first line in mind, just deny deny if u EVER get a controlled delivery. BUT remember the boys in blue do this full time and know all the tricks. They'll say shit that almost wants u to 'admit to something small' making u think they are not after u. IGNORE IGNORE DENY DENY. THe best prosecutable evidence they could ever possibly get is a 'confession'. Otherwise its tonnes more police work and tonnes more paper work, supporting documentation.

Someone told me that the 'current silk road operation/sting/strategy' is all about 'gathering eveidence' over time to use against you when they decide to act. This scares me a bit, as like others I have had MANY packages just disappear completely, with no tracking, no DSN, no alert/love letter or anything. BUT if i havent accepted these packages, then how the hell can they prove they were meant for me and prosecute me for possession/trafficking etc? I really believe they just destroy them and try to put usd off this whole 'mail order drugs' experiment.

 And for one, theyr doing a goof job here in oz (right now some po po is prob reading this and giving himself a pat on the back, and hopig for a bonus/raise). Fuck that, its a numbers game bruv. They CANT keep at their recent game for extended time. Police operations have a 'research period, a debriefing, a start date, plan of attack, execution, observation stage, and then a finale, and then results/review'. So let them get over their celebratory donut on a job well done, then its a super special Ozzie 420 sale byatches!!!! haha

 pretty solid and logical post and I did LOL a few times

How do you know the details about police operations in Aus? google?

"Police operations have a 'research period, a debriefing, a start date, plan of attack, execution, observation stage, and then a finale, and then results/review'."
It seems logical to me but where can I find more info on this some.bloke?
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: some.bloke on August 28, 2012, 04:51 pm
anyone can send any package to any person at any address.

90% of the time if they seize it, it'll go in the 'pile'. THey may watch u over time, but they cant prosecute you unless they can prove the package was meant for you and you intended to receive it. To do this is a 'controlled delivery', and bah it hardly ever happens unless u are moving BULK.

Even if u r lucky enough to get a love letter, nothing actually happens to you. Its just a notification and has no prosecutable weight.

So with the first line in mind, just deny deny if u EVER get a controlled delivery. BUT remember the boys in blue do this full time and know all the tricks. They'll say shit that almost wants u to 'admit to something small' making u think they are not after u. IGNORE IGNORE DENY DENY. THe best prosecutable evidence they could ever possibly get is a 'confession'. Otherwise its tonnes more police work and tonnes more paper work, supporting documentation.

Someone told me that the 'current silk road operation/sting/strategy' is all about 'gathering eveidence' over time to use against you when they decide to act. This scares me a bit, as like others I have had MANY packages just disappear completely, with no tracking, no DSN, no alert/love letter or anything. BUT if i havent accepted these packages, then how the hell can they prove they were meant for me and prosecute me for possession/trafficking etc? I really believe they just destroy them and try to put usd off this whole 'mail order drugs' experiment.

 And for one, theyr doing a goof job here in oz (right now some po po is prob reading this and giving himself a pat on the back, and hopig for a bonus/raise). Fuck that, its a numbers game bruv. They CANT keep at their recent game for extended time. Police operations have a 'research period, a debriefing, a start date, plan of attack, execution, observation stage, and then a finale, and then results/review'. So let them get over their celebratory donut on a job well done, then its a super special Ozzie 420 sale byatches!!!! haha

 pretty solid and logical post and I did LOL a few times

How do you know the details about police operations in Aus? google?

"Police operations have a 'research period, a debriefing, a start date, plan of attack, execution, observation stage, and then a finale, and then results/review'."
It seems logical to me but where can I find more info on this some.bloke?

haha well... ever watch 'The Wire" or even 'Underbelley'? jokes. but seriously, u can learn a 'bit' from such.

I have uni degree in engineering/commerce but cant even remember if any such 'project management/organisation planning' stuff like that was taught in my Bcom on those exact guidelines. I see it as just common sense and made those exac stages up off top of my head, ie. experienced/knowledge/well read and follow crime novels/cases with keen interest. But the fact is, police operations,  always have am instigator, research, a budget then an analysis period following. They need to justify the $ and resources spent on such operations, to justify anything further.

Really in the case of SR, subjectively speaking (going off Aus posts on here) Customs prob think they have done well (but subjectives dont ever present well in 'reports/presentations'- they need/WANT numbers- how they gonna get that off SR? maybe from packages picked up, but not from SR itself). AND once they compare this to actual drugs off the street or net $ taken off street, reduced harm to users or compare to massive syndicates, they'll realise what a waste it may have all been (surely its gotta?).

But again no idea.
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: gonzorx on August 29, 2012, 12:40 am
After migrating to Australia, I realised all policies are founded on economic rationalism.

If ripping up mail will give customs more money from the federal government, then they will coninue to rip.

Like 'The Wire', they can duke the stats to show 'progress', albeit with no tangible progress made at all. Like most police work really. Will cracking down on SR stop us taking drugs? No. Will it stop SR? No. It will stop local crime syndicates making money off drug trades and this is a problem to politicians (all corrupt, lets face it) , crooked cops and 'property developers' ;-)

Said it once and said it again: Go after SR mail or go after John Ibrahim/Mick Gatto etc? They will make their numbers with the easy rip and runs everytime because they are in the pockets of organised crime. A concept as old as civilisation itself.
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: paddymiller on August 29, 2012, 01:18 am
After migrating to Australia, I realised all policies are founded on economic rationalism.

If ripping up mail will give customs more money from the federal government, then they will coninue to rip.

Like 'The Wire', they can duke the stats to show 'progress', albeit with no tangible progress made at all. Like most police work really. Will cracking down on SR stop us taking drugs? No. Will it stop SR? No. It will stop local crime syndicates making money off drug trades and this is a problem to politicians (all corrupt, lets face it) , crooked cops and 'property developers' ;-)

Said it once and said it again: Go after SR mail or go after John Ibrahim/Mick Gatto etc? They will make their numbers with the easy rip and runs everytime because they are in the pockets of organised crime. A concept as old as civilisation itself.

+1'd you mate.

You're right, Gatto AND Ibrahim are the most blatant criminals in the country. And of course they won't ever get locked up - too many people on the payroll....

Look up the Wood Royal Commission on google and do some reading, specifically on Ibrahim. Very interesting if you've only been here a while.. He was called 'the lifeblood of the drugs trade in Kings Cross', and that was the fucking 90's!

Ibrahim already has one brother in jail for life for murder, who then got charged for another murder while inside (ordered the hit via smuggled mobile), and another who is supposedly a life member of the Nomads MC in Aus, who then started Notorious... all the proof is there... multiple drive-bys on their various houses, tit-for-tat shootings the cops just blame on bikies, they found $3 FUCKING MILLION IN CASH hidden at his sister's place... no charges there.... e.t.c but the police do NOTHING. Oh, and his other brother got shot what, five times in his Lamborghini, but didn't get killed. Damn it. And that cunt lives in one of Australia's most expensive suburbs, with no fucking income. He drives a brand-new Lambo. In the words of Pauline Hanson: "Please explain".

Any AFP/coppers reading this: why would you wanna bust some random dude for posting himself 10 viagra's from overseas, instead of breaking the back of Sydney's - nay - Australia's biggest crook??? You have SO much proof, unless you're planning on taking him down after what... 30 years of crime? Pfft. Give me a break. It would have to be the biggest case in Aus Police history, with multi-millions of taxpayer dollars spent. If you don't have enough proof yet, you're a useless bunch of cunts. My mum has a better chance of catching him.

As they said in The Wire: follow the money.

I'm positive I have a better chance of getting Heidi Klum to rim my ass with her tongue  than ever seeing that cunt in lockup.

/rant
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: paddymiller on August 29, 2012, 02:19 am
Haha thanks moksha.  ;D

Yeah i'm not surprised to hear about the Sinaloa cartel making a headway here. I'd say 500kg's/month would be about right, considering our love of drugs down here... must be all the sun we get or something lol, but probably just all the piss we sink :)

Isn't Los Zetas (another cartel splinter group i've read about) a former group of Special Forces soldiers from the Mexican Army? (undoubtedly trained at some point by U.S Special Forces?) I'm sure that they would have a foothold here too. Best of luck to whoever is dealing with them...  :o

Customs would HAVE to be in on that shit, wouldn't they? I mean, these cartel guys, from what I understand/have read, infiltrate EVERY branch of L.E, Customs, Port Authority workers e.t.c wherever they operate.... they don't exactly fuck around. They are trained military operators, or have been trained by ex-soldiers, not some random cunts picked from the backwaters of Mexico. What with all the headless bodies scattered all over the U.S/Mexico border, the proof is, as they say, in the pudding.

If you think about it, we're (Australia) probably the second-best market in the world for the cartels (behind the U.S, of course) due to the ridiculously high street prices here for blow, right? They probably charge triple or quadruple per key to Aussie gangs than they would to the U.S guys... Then again, what would I know about this shit. Pure speculation.
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: mrBert on August 29, 2012, 07:14 am
say the item cannot be detected via sniffing dogs but is coming from a dodgy country that is usually regarded with high caution such as NL or Thailand.

Would it better to use regular mail or registered? I'm assuming registered would be quicker so maybe not as much time to search and what not... ideas please?
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: some.bloke on August 29, 2012, 11:18 am
say the item cannot be detected via sniffing dogs but is coming from a dodgy country that is usually regarded with high caution such as NL or Thailand.

Would it better to use regular mail or registered? I'm assuming registered would be quicker so maybe not as much time to search and what not... ideas please?

Thailand, India, SE Asia= tracked. It works and gets put in the system and manualy updated against Aus systems.

NL. non  tracked. Euro Tracked, if seized, doesnt show anything further than original scanned into system, left NL. Also these vendors get 100's of 'ready to go' envelopes or tracking stickers. So say they pick up one package, they then 'can' watch easily/automatically for ALL packages withing a serial no. range.

What makes your package arrives is whether it blends in, looks standard, has a real return address, and not with a bunch of other 'signature' packages that they know about.  Go low volume vendor, who ships irregularly in business style envelopes, not 'package post'
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: paddymiller on August 29, 2012, 03:21 pm
+1'd you, trashy :)

Seriously, I laugh so much whenever Aus/NZ cops put out press releases. Especially when they claim '$4 million of weed was seized' or some shit, like some importer is gonna pay $20 per gram for 200kg of weed!

Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: EnterTheMatrix on August 29, 2012, 04:57 pm
anyone can send any package to any person at any address.

90% of the time if they seize it, it'll go in the 'pile'. THey may watch u over time, but they cant prosecute you unless they can prove the package was meant for you and you intended to receive it. To do this is a 'controlled delivery', and bah it hardly ever happens unless u are moving BULK.

Even if u r lucky enough to get a love letter, nothing actually happens to you. Its just a notification and has no prosecutable weight.

So with the first line in mind, just deny deny if u EVER get a controlled delivery. BUT remember the boys in blue do this full time and know all the tricks. They'll say shit that almost wants u to 'admit to something small' making u think they are not after u. IGNORE IGNORE DENY DENY. THe best prosecutable evidence they could ever possibly get is a 'confession'. Otherwise its tonnes more police work and tonnes more paper work, supporting documentation.

Someone told me that the 'current silk road operation/sting/strategy' is all about 'gathering eveidence' over time to use against you when they decide to act. This scares me a bit, as like others I have had MANY packages just disappear completely, with no tracking, no DSN, no alert/love letter or anything. BUT if i havent accepted these packages, then how the hell can they prove they were meant for me and prosecute me for possession/trafficking etc? I really believe they just destroy them and try to put usd off this whole 'mail order drugs' experiment.

 And for one, theyr doing a goof job here in oz (right now some po po is prob reading this and giving himself a pat on the back, and hopig for a bonus/raise). Fuck that, its a numbers game bruv. They CANT keep at their recent game for extended time. Police operations have a 'research period, a debriefing, a start date, plan of attack, execution, observation stage, and then a finale, and then results/review'. So let them get over their celebratory donut on a job well done, then its a super special Ozzie 420 sale byatches!!!! haha

 pretty solid and logical post and I did LOL a few times

How do you know the details about police operations in Aus? google?

"Police operations have a 'research period, a debriefing, a start date, plan of attack, execution, observation stage, and then a finale, and then results/review'."
It seems logical to me but where can I find more info on this some.bloke?

haha well... ever watch 'The Wire" or even 'Underbelley'? jokes. but seriously, u can learn a 'bit' from such.

I have uni degree in engineering/commerce but cant even remember if any such 'project management/organisation planning' stuff like that was taught in my Bcom on those exact guidelines. I see it as just common sense and made those exac stages up off top of my head, ie. experienced/knowledge/well read and follow crime novels/cases with keen interest. But the fact is, police operations,  always have am instigator, research, a budget then an analysis period following. They need to justify the $ and resources spent on such operations, to justify anything further.

Really in the case of SR, subjectively speaking (going off Aus posts on here) Customs prob think they have done well (but subjectives dont ever present well in 'reports/presentations'- they need/WANT numbers- how they gonna get that off SR? maybe from packages picked up, but not from SR itself). AND once they compare this to actual drugs off the street or net $ taken off street, reduced harm to users or compare to massive syndicates, they'll realise what a waste it may have all been (surely its gotta?).

But again no idea.

The Wire is such an education, essential viewing for all in the illicit substance business.

After migrating to Australia, I realised all policies are founded on economic rationalism.

If ripping up mail will give customs more money from the federal government, then they will coninue to rip.

Like 'The Wire', they can duke the stats to show 'progress', albeit with no tangible progress made at all. Like most police work really. Will cracking down on SR stop us taking drugs? No. Will it stop SR? No. It will stop local crime syndicates making money off drug trades and this is a problem to politicians (all corrupt, lets face it) , crooked cops and 'property developers' ;-)

Said it once and said it again: Go after SR mail or go after John Ibrahim/Mick Gatto etc? They will make their numbers with the easy rip and runs everytime because they are in the pockets of organised crime. A concept as old as civilisation itself.

+1'd you mate.

You're right, Gatto AND Ibrahim are the most blatant criminals in the country. And of course they won't ever get locked up - too many people on the payroll....

Look up the Wood Royal Commission on google and do some reading, specifically on Ibrahim. Very interesting if you've only been here a while.. He was called 'the lifeblood of the drugs trade in Kings Cross', and that was the fucking 90's!

Ibrahim already has one brother in jail for life for murder, who then got charged for another murder while inside (ordered the hit via smuggled mobile), and another who is supposedly a life member of the Nomads MC in Aus, who then started Notorious... all the proof is there... multiple drive-bys on their various houses, tit-for-tat shootings the cops just blame on bikies, they found $3 FUCKING MILLION IN CASH hidden at his sister's place... no charges there.... e.t.c but the police do NOTHING. Oh, and his other brother got shot what, five times in his Lamborghini, but didn't get killed. Damn it. And that cunt lives in one of Australia's most expensive suburbs, with no fucking income. He drives a brand-new Lambo. In the words of Pauline Hanson: "Please explain".

Any AFP/coppers reading this: why would you wanna bust some random dude for posting himself 10 viagra's from overseas, instead of breaking the back of Sydney's - nay - Australia's biggest crook??? You have SO much proof, unless you're planning on taking him down after what... 30 years of crime? Pfft. Give me a break. It would have to be the biggest case in Aus Police history, with multi-millions of taxpayer dollars spent. If you don't have enough proof yet, you're a useless bunch of cunts. My mum has a better chance of catching him.

As they said in The Wire: follow the money.

I'm positive I have a better chance of getting Heidi Klum to rim my ass with her tongue  than ever seeing that cunt in lockup.

/rant

Spot on mate! We want to give you another +1 but have to wait 72 hours, you are coming out with some brilliant stuff lately.

And as the great Omar once said: "I'll do what I can to help y'all. But, the game's out there, and it's play or get played. That simple."

Matrix  8)
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: paddymiller on August 29, 2012, 05:15 pm
Cheers Matrix :)

Man, I really miss The Wire. Omar was just a total professional.

"I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase. It's all in the game, though, right?"

Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: gonzorx on August 30, 2012, 01:09 am
After migrating to Australia, I realised all policies are founded on economic rationalism.

If ripping up mail will give customs more money from the federal government, then they will coninue to rip.

Like 'The Wire', they can duke the stats to show 'progress', albeit with no tangible progress made at all. Like most police work really. Will cracking down on SR stop us taking drugs? No. Will it stop SR? No. It will stop local crime syndicates making money off drug trades and this is a problem to politicians (all corrupt, lets face it) , crooked cops and 'property developers' ;-)

Said it once and said it again: Go after SR mail or go after John Ibrahim/Mick Gatto etc? They will make their numbers with the easy rip and runs everytime because they are in the pockets of organised crime. A concept as old as civilisation itself.

+1'd you mate.

You're right, Gatto AND Ibrahim are the most blatant criminals in the country. And of course they won't ever get locked up - too many people on the payroll....

Look up the Wood Royal Commission on google and do some reading, specifically on Ibrahim. Very interesting if you've only been here a while.. He was called 'the lifeblood of the drugs trade in Kings Cross', and that was the fucking 90's!

Ibrahim already has one brother in jail for life for murder, who then got charged for another murder while inside (ordered the hit via smuggled mobile), and another who is supposedly a life member of the Nomads MC in Aus, who then started Notorious... all the proof is there... multiple drive-bys on their various houses, tit-for-tat shootings the cops just blame on bikies, they found $3 FUCKING MILLION IN CASH hidden at his sister's place... no charges there.... e.t.c but the police do NOTHING. Oh, and his other brother got shot what, five times in his Lamborghini, but didn't get killed. Damn it. And that cunt lives in one of Australia's most expensive suburbs, with no fucking income. He drives a brand-new Lambo. In the words of Pauline Hanson: "Please explain".

Any AFP/coppers reading this: why would you wanna bust some random dude for posting himself 10 viagra's from overseas, instead of breaking the back of Sydney's - nay - Australia's biggest crook??? You have SO much proof, unless you're planning on taking him down after what... 30 years of crime? Pfft. Give me a break. It would have to be the biggest case in Aus Police history, with multi-millions of taxpayer dollars spent. If you don't have enough proof yet, you're a useless bunch of cunts. My mum has a better chance of catching him.

As they said in The Wire: follow the money.

I'm positive I have a better chance of getting Heidi Klum to rim my ass with her tongue  than ever seeing that cunt in lockup.

/rant

+1 back at you sir!

reading up on Wood Royal Commission now. Cheers.

I caught Mick Gatto on the TV last night (wearing a fancy purple cardigan... haha) and his caption under his name was 'gangland identity' . WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK!?!?!? This dude is a 'mediator' . You get a rank like that after being a heavyweight criminal who people can use as a mediator because if you fuck with him, you will end up in the ocean. And he walks around to quote Chopper 'as a protected fucking species.' Blows my mind.

The $3M in that house roof of Ib's sister roof was classic. It would have been small change to their enterprise .

'you're a useless bunch of cunts. My mum has a better chance of catching him.' Re: AFP / NSW Police. Totally agree. How can you say you are a reputable organisation with such blatant cases of career criminals roaming the country.

Oh but they DID save his parrot !!!! Congratulations on the one!

edit: Wood, not 'Weed' . Shows where my mind is.
Title: Re: Aus Customs
Post by: paddymiller on August 30, 2012, 03:11 am
After migrating to Australia, I realised all policies are founded on economic rationalism.

If ripping up mail will give customs more money from the federal government, then they will coninue to rip.

Like 'The Wire', they can duke the stats to show 'progress', albeit with no tangible progress made at all. Like most police work really. Will cracking down on SR stop us taking drugs? No. Will it stop SR? No. It will stop local crime syndicates making money off drug trades and this is a problem to politicians (all corrupt, lets face it) , crooked cops and 'property developers' ;-)

Said it once and said it again: Go after SR mail or go after John Ibrahim/Mick Gatto etc? They will make their numbers with the easy rip and runs everytime because they are in the pockets of organised crime. A concept as old as civilisation itself.

+1'd you mate.

You're right, Gatto AND Ibrahim are the most blatant criminals in the country. And of course they won't ever get locked up - too many people on the payroll....

Look up the Wood Royal Commission on google and do some reading, specifically on Ibrahim. Very interesting if you've only been here a while.. He was called 'the lifeblood of the drugs trade in Kings Cross', and that was the fucking 90's!

Ibrahim already has one brother in jail for life for murder, who then got charged for another murder while inside (ordered the hit via smuggled mobile), and another who is supposedly a life member of the Nomads MC in Aus, who then started Notorious... all the proof is there... multiple drive-bys on their various houses, tit-for-tat shootings the cops just blame on bikies, they found $3 FUCKING MILLION IN CASH hidden at his sister's place... no charges there.... e.t.c but the police do NOTHING. Oh, and his other brother got shot what, five times in his Lamborghini, but didn't get killed. Damn it. And that cunt lives in one of Australia's most expensive suburbs, with no fucking income. He drives a brand-new Lambo. In the words of Pauline Hanson: "Please explain".

Any AFP/coppers reading this: why would you wanna bust some random dude for posting himself 10 viagra's from overseas, instead of breaking the back of Sydney's - nay - Australia's biggest crook??? You have SO much proof, unless you're planning on taking him down after what... 30 years of crime? Pfft. Give me a break. It would have to be the biggest case in Aus Police history, with multi-millions of taxpayer dollars spent. If you don't have enough proof yet, you're a useless bunch of cunts. My mum has a better chance of catching him.

As they said in The Wire: follow the money.

I'm positive I have a better chance of getting Heidi Klum to rim my ass with her tongue  than ever seeing that cunt in lockup.

/rant

+1 back at you sir!

reading up on Wood Royal Commission now. Cheers.

I caught Mick Gatto on the TV last night (wearing a fancy purple cardigan... haha) and his caption under his name was 'gangland identity' . WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK!?!?!? This dude is a 'mediator' . You get a rank like that after being a heavyweight criminal who people can use as a mediator because if you fuck with him, you will end up in the ocean. And he walks around to quote Chopper 'as a protected fucking species.' Blows my mind.

The $3M in that house roof of Ib's sister roof was classic. It would have been small change to their enterprise .

'you're a useless bunch of cunts. My mum has a better chance of catching him.' Re: AFP / NSW Police. Totally agree. How can you say you are a reputable organisation with such blatant cases of career criminals roaming the country.

Oh but they DID save his parrot !!!! Congratulations on the one!

edit: Wood, not 'Weed' . Shows where my mind is.

Tried to +1 you again, fucking 72 hour time limit :(

Oh, the new +1 was for the PARROT reference! (and Mick's cardigan lolololol) RIDICULOUS!

I was pretty pissed off when I posted that about Gatto/Ibrahim, because cunts like Gatto, a known 'Carlton Crew' head honcho, a 'mediator' (READ: Standover Man) who was treating Melbourne like a shooting range for years, is still walking around free and clear, with his mug all over the telly, with 'gangland identity' at the bottom of the screen, just shows how pathetic our coppers really are. At least Chop Chop did hard time.

AFP/Police - GET FUCKING REAL. I'd rather my tax dollars went to Mugabe/al Assad than you useless cunts.

I guarantee that if I was to 'mediate' a business dispute with a shotgun and a crew of 'heavies', I'd be doing hard time.

And yeah, that Commission was quite interesting, I suggest you keep reading :)