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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: sinenominex on June 30, 2012, 05:16 pm

Title: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: sinenominex on June 30, 2012, 05:16 pm
http://www.starherald.com/news/local_news/scottsbluff-man-girlfriend-arrested-in-illicit-mail-delivery/article_b43b62d6-b0f2-11e1-96c1-0019bb2963f4.html

First off, how the hell did the dog signal on a goddam envelope with half a sheet of blotter?  I can only assume the person who packaged it had been smoking/breaking down bud recently and didn't use gloves?  This kinda worries me as I thought acid was about the safest thing to ship.  Say's he ordered online from Canada..
Title: Re: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: Skippy_Jif on June 30, 2012, 05:23 pm
Only a traceable chemical smell that the dog was trained to pick up or they knew about the package and false alerted.
Title: Re: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: Soni on June 30, 2012, 08:08 pm
Hello everybody, I had to register just because of this story.

Only a traceable chemical smell that the dog was trained to pick up or they knew about the package and false alerted.

What baffles me is that it wasn't even a package, it was an envelope, presumably like so many others going to and coming from Canada. Only blotter paper with a few ug of acid. It makes me feel 100x more paranoid than I already did before, especially given the amount they asked the kids to post for bail. I've known of child molesters being asked for less than those 100k.
Title: Re: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: sinenominex on June 30, 2012, 09:22 pm
It makes me feel 100x more paranoid than I already did before, especially given the amount they asked the kids to post for bail. I've known of child molesters being asked for less than those 100k.

That's wat bothers me the most...these were freaking 20-22 year olds and to see them get hammered this hard...well looks like I'm sticking to domestic for now.
Title: Re: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: anchientlib on June 30, 2012, 09:50 pm
That is fucking insanity....and wtf is wrong with the last rat???Why not just go flush the drugs or bury them somewhere instead of burying your friends for the shit.  Idiot.
Title: Re: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: sinenominex on June 30, 2012, 10:22 pm
But of all the thousands of flat letters/envelopes flowing over from Canada, what triggered that one?  Unless they somehow knew ahead of time it was being sent.  Yeah they were really dumb about it after being discovered but stil...
Title: Re: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: Skippy_Jif on June 30, 2012, 11:34 pm
Someone narcd them out. End of story.

Same shit happened to rcs years ago with a guy that knew I was getting stuff in the mail(legal rcs). He got busted because his stupid ass was speeding with drugs. He got pulled over and it tested positive on the field test. Scared bitch narcd on me and so when a pack came(he didn't know about) they tried a control delivery.

I denied everything. They didn't do shit because there is no proof.

The best damn thing to do is shut the fuck up. Don't run your mouth to friends, family or anyone about where you get drugs. People in this world can't be trusted(majority of them) because they're so fucking envious of what others are doing.

Sorry, had to vent.
Title: Re: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: UKGrower on June 30, 2012, 11:52 pm
What baffles me is that it wasn't even a package, it was an envelope, presumably like so many others going to and coming from Canada. Only blotter paper with a few ug of acid. It makes me feel 100x more paranoid than I already did before

That's exactly why they spread this kind of bullshit in the press.  It protects their real sources, and spreads FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) amongst people who are involved in similar activities.
Title: Re: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: souledout on July 01, 2012, 12:01 am
same as always......     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtILxBszyf8
Title: Re: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: BanWork on July 01, 2012, 12:49 am
same as always......     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtILxBszyf8
wtf was he thinking with those spectacles
Title: Re: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: kmfkewm on July 01, 2012, 10:28 am
but as it is personal use they will just get a stern talking to right? Isn't that what everyone on SR is always saying? So why do they have 100 thousand dollar bails for such small amounts 0_0. It is almost like everyone who talks about how you will just get a love letter for less than fifty kilos of cocaine is fucking retarded??
Title: Re: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: sourman on July 01, 2012, 11:33 am
^True, but there is likely more to this case. For the most part, the only way LE is going to "go easy on you" is when the difficulty of making the heavier charges stick exceeds the resources they are alloted for such cases. In rural areas like Nebraska, that's wayyy less likely to happen than if they were in say, Chicago, NYC, or LA. The cops involved in this case, whether they are locals or feds, literally have nothing better to do. They probably received a tip from a CI (or perhaps whoever mailed them the LSD used contaminated packaging) and so knew what to look for. Once they busted these two, they pretty much ratted themselves out, thus eliminating any chance of leniency through ambiguity. Their bond is laughably high, but that doesn't mean their charges won't be greatly reduced as part of a plea bargain. If they don't have a record, odds are they won't get much time, if any. Not that probation (especially federal) doesn't suck.

Bottom line is, the cops WILL absolutely rape you like this if they can. Don't give them the ammunition they need to put you away, even if it means you get let out with probation later. Some cases WILL be prosecuted to the fullest extent and there is always a chance that you'll get locked up for this bullshit. If you live in a rural area with strict drug laws, you have much more to worry about than someone in a liberal state--particularly in a big city with lots of drug use--who's only dealing in personal use amounts. Also, half a sheet of LSD is not what I would consider personal use for most people. They were probably going to split it with some friends, who were caught doing something else and ratted on them. Motherfuckers.
Title: Re: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: Kappacino on July 01, 2012, 03:13 pm
False alerting is the norm in the police force.

They know it.

If they're suspicious of you, they'll just say the dog alerted, and search you. Who will the courts believe, you or them?

Title: Re: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: Skippy_Jif on July 01, 2012, 05:33 pm
Exactly...
Title: Re: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: DwightEAnderson on July 01, 2012, 05:56 pm
False alerting is the norm in the police force.

They know it.

If they're suspicious of you, they'll just say the dog alerted, and search you. Who will the courts believe, you or them?

In fact, they are trained to go off on command.  Cops are as fucking crooked as me.   lmao
Title: Re: Anyone hear about this controlled delivery?
Post by: klaw239 on July 01, 2012, 06:29 pm
When ever a human is involved eventually you will have human error. There is no way around it.  Eventually the ticket will come up and out of the thousands and thousands of  packages and  envelops  shipped   there is going to come a time when one got  scrapped against something and got cut open accidentally or just   came open on it's own  cause of  faulty packaging or  any other number of scenarios that can and have occurred and  WILL happen again. There is just no way around it. No one can be perfect at all times.

6+6 = 12  even on krypton.

These oils spills occur and all the sudden the news and politicians  start talking about  "should of done this and should have done that" or "this precaution should have been in place  etc..etc"  In hind-site   you can  no what number to bet on roulette too cause you have the information/intelligence to  base your  logic on  but  humans can not see the future  nor predict what and when an accident might happen. No matter what precautions people take  in the end it is never fool proof and eventually  it will break down.

So  trying to pinpoint  how and why is really a waste of time unless you are the vender or the buyer and want/need to retrace the steps you took that might have sounded an alarm.  Unless you are one of the two individuals you are just guessing in the dark at any number of things that might have happened.

If anything should come of this thread is that  venders be safe and slow   and   think every step over 3 times before you make to be certain it is done correctly. Buyers  keep quiet and  never admit guilt and always politely ask for an attorney. It serves no one to be rude and nasty to the  police. They are mostly good people too. Lot's of bad apples  but most just doing their job and what they think is right and remember his   opinion of you may turn a prosecutors mind right or left in which direction to charge you.  Slap on the wrist or  why me time?  That is if you are even charged and if you  do things here the way you are suppose to and be safe and secure and use good judgement and do not always listen to what people here tell you to do as far  as  what information you give out  (including my self)   you should never have to worry about jail.  You might get arrested and taken downtown on a charge  but  a conviction should never happen unless you  fucked yourself some where down the line.

In the end if you are not street smart enough or  got your Mr.Spock hat on at all times  you should probably not  even be here. But it is your freedom  so who I am to say?

I just wish every one happy times and  safe endeavors and always remember that  "Discretion is always  the better part of valor" and "The word impossible is found only in the dictionary of fools"

Those extra ten steps you take might be time consuming and   hear others call you paranoid but it might just might mean the difference between  bread and water and  a jail cell and you chillin home on the couch high on your favorite  product with your woman playing  360.

In the end  who wins?   Super  Powers 1984 --- :"you decide"