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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Mr.Conspiracy on September 19, 2012, 09:15 pm
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Skyy and Pfand fiasco start at same time. Skyy goes scammer, immediately thereafter/at the same time Pfand loses his source. Skyy is gone for "good." Pfand comes back with a batch of "sugar." Pfand then "notices" the mistake after sending out multiple orders. Pfand then finds another source/same source goes good again and he begins getting "brown batch." Due to the change in color I do believe that Pfand began sourcing elsewhere. During this time frame Pfand also picked up the business of Dutch, who was doing big things with C. Dutch goes away, Pfand now is now selling C and M. Around this time, shit hits the fan with Pfand. There are uncountable complaints of horrible C quality with a "mustard" smell. It also seems that Pfand appears to have a mental collapse at some point... or his assholishiness just comes out. During Pfands downfall a new vendor pops up, a vendor from germany, selling C also. This vendor is known as AfterHour. AfterHour starts up a business selling C from Germany. Pfand crashes and burns. I think this is needless to say, but Pfand did not sell all of his C supply. I remember reading a post by Pfand saying that "Dutch will kill me if I don't sell this coke." Literally? I doubt it. So, here we have a vendor from Germany selling C, just as Pfand goes under with a supply of C that he NEEDS to get rid of. Business is going good for AfterHour in the C department during this time, and he announces that he will begin stocking Pfands M! Clearly, we have linked three people to, at the very least, be in cooperation with at least one other member. These three members are Dutch, Pfand, and AfterHour. Also, due to Pfand's statement towards Skyy, we can assume that Pfand and Skyy had some sort of correspondance. A puzzling issue that has also come to my mind in regards to Pfand and Skyy is the press that they both had. Both of them had individual custom presses, that is for damn sure. Just food for thought.
In regards to some other information that I see as cocerning. Supertrips has also made a comment that Dr.Nyx WAS NOT arrested and he implied that he could be trusted as a source of information for this. Could this simply be a source of spreading misinformation to bring his customer base up? Yes. Could it be a legit snippet of information implying that, at the least, Supertrips can confirm the whereabouts of the criminal organization/person opperating as Dr.Nyx? SuperTrips also moves his operation to Germany. To me this implies that there is a legit criminal organization behind his operation. To believe that one-three people are behind the exportation from NL to GER and redistribution worldwide seems to be unfathomable.
Finally, one thing that really got my about Dr.Nyx was his use of that font. I really do see the use of that font as a method of obscuring the connections between grammar and punctuation from the same individual.
Finally... Dutch comes back and AfterHour doesn't seem to have listings for C. AfterHour also has run of the mill presses rather than customs. I think it is safe to say that, if Pfand could STILL get custom presses made then AfterHour would have a custom press... Skyy customs, Pfand customs, Skyy goes away, Pfand gets new source, AfterHour has C and Rolex.
To recap.
Pfand and Skyy had custom presses around the same time.
Pfands Swastika press ran out roughly the time Skyy began scamming.
Pfand begins having supply issues.
Skyy completely dissappears and Pfand burns.
AfterHour sets up coke just as Pfand burns with Dutchs C.
Pfand Stops selling.
AfterHour begins selling Pfands M and C.
Dutch restarts business and AfterHour seems to no longer have C.
I am thoroughly convinced that Dutch, Pfand, and AfterHour can all be connected. There is also comments/circumstances linking Skyy to Pfand. I am not saying that these are all the same people. That is CLEARLY not the case. Is it possible that one may be another? Sure, it is possible. But I feel like it is safer to say that it is an organized crime ring that is working together... why this matters I do not know.
In regards to Supertrips' comment on Dr.Nyx, I am simply under the impression that Supertrips could be competition or that Dr.Nyx was somehow a satellite organization. But I do have one final question in regards to Supertrips... are the "?"'s custom prints?
BTW... do you guys remember when PF was taking a month to get his orders through? Wasn't that just chalked up to slow german shipping times for a lot of people? If I do recall DeadRa7 got a pack pretty deep in. StormTrooper 420 also got a pack very far into shipping.
**Extra Snippets!**
Pfand wanted to start with a no refund policy.
LET THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES ROLL!
Also prep for scams.
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Those EU guys can sure be weirdo's!!
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If this happens to be true, then you are pretty smart to have figured it all out, sincerely. It also tells me that you have lots of free time. :)
The idea of a criminal network behind these three vendors is very plausible, and why wouldn't it be the case, just by looking at the quantities these guys sell.
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oh the game... whod have thought that bulk exo and caine dealers could be sketchy? ::)
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I've always suspected that there's at least one criminal network supplying the stuff coming out of NL. Whether or not they are marketing it here also is another matter. I think that if a major criminal enterprise were going to operate here, it would be more reliable than what we've seen from the people mentioned. More likely, these guys just have suppliers in common or are jumping names once they've burned so many people that the orders aren't flowing in any more.
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Not sure what hapopened but me and a GF did buy off pfand (we forget his name!)
We had 25 grams and it was overweight and the best molly us girls has since the early /mid 90s.
I was away and all this is news tro me. We saved our MDMA as we are good girls and we work and don't want to get into trouble selling it. We mostly just want some good bud from the UK at a cheap price and not 280 UK for an ounce. I do know a vendor here through a girlfriend but cannot say who!
I might also buy some coke to powder our pretty noses for party nights.
:)
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OP must be Inspector Clouseau.
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I'm glad I don't live there.... gross
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Skyy didnt have a custom press, Banjo5 from the UK, he was selling orange stars same press...
Those stars are so fucking clean I sure wish Skyy would come back tho.
Were they 4 ways with a copyright logo on the back? I think NOT.
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I am thoroughly convinced that Dutch, Pfand, and AfterHour can all be connected. There is also comments/circumstances linking Skyy to Pfand. I am not saying that these are all the same people. That is CLEARLY not the case. Is it possible that one may be another? Sure, it is possible. But I feel like it is safer to say that it is an organized crime ring that is working together... why this matters I do not know.
I'd be surprised if those vendors were not connected. Organized crime ring? What were you thinking? All honest individuals that happen to know some kg amount supplier? Not very likely.
Btw there is a very similar "conspiracy theory" regarding dutch vendors, linking aakoven, premiumdutch to noriega. It's been said that there's a small circle of people controlling a majority of dutch accounts. Wouldn't be surprising since they mostly sell the same quality (shit).
Fact: The Dutch set up supply rings throughout NL and also supply Germany. Probably one group of people again, as a second ring won't survive very long. Who says that? europol does. How can they be so sure? Forensic Science, specifically: Impurity profiling.
Keep it up, fun read. Won't do much good though. I just stay away. I prefer my Burgers from small independent Shops who still have control over and access to the farm. I avoid big chains like McDonald's and BurgerKing, as the quality sucks.
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I've always suspected that there's at least one criminal network supplying the stuff coming out of NL.
In fact there is only one organization running all the drugs coming out of the NL and it is being run by none other than Goldmember himself, who lost his genitalia in an unfortunate smelting accident. :(
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So are you going to just forward that first post directly to InterPol, or just wait for them to come read it them selves?
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For some reason the only thing I could think about was the movie Layer Cake when reading this.
These are criminal organizations moving multimillion dollars worth of product. Of course there are going to be issues. A LOT of them.
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anyone whos spent enough time here nows which accounts are linked and theres plenty but u dont need to point it out
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^^^true, this thread should be deleted