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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: hairbear72 on May 02, 2013, 02:34 am

Title: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: hairbear72 on May 02, 2013, 02:34 am
More than seven days and EXPRESS POST from vendor SmoothSailing hasn't been delivered

___Vendor insists on FE
______No replies to messages
_________SR says vendor last here "Today"


Smooth Sailing it 'aint!
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: Slutt on May 02, 2013, 05:55 am
Yeah mate. We FE too, as per sellers request. He was quick to respond to any questions prior to FE, however he has not replied to our queries as to the whereabouts of the goods since. That was 9 days ago.
Will be notifying SR and changing feedback.
Its all pointing towards a scam.
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: southpour on May 02, 2013, 06:19 am
Same here! gave him the benefit of the doubt with the public holidays etc however its been about 10 days now...

Some people appear to be getting what they ordered, however a lot of these are being updated very quickly (perhaps too quickly), he might buy his product with other usernames to record positive feedback to keep us idiots rolling in with FE's

Honestly, I knew I was taking a risk in the first place (lesson learned). 2/3 of my first orders received so happy with other vendors I have dealt with. this guy is either a clever scammer or an unorganised paranoid junkie. I suggest people start updating their feedback to save others from getting caught, mine has been over run with other peoples FE's and most likely lost on page 6 or so

Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: Tommy Vercetti on May 02, 2013, 06:44 am
Yep, same here....
I've been hit hard by this (possible) scam, to the tune of $2150.
I'm so, so gutted.
That money meant a lot to me...
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: fazzaz on May 02, 2013, 06:58 am
Well if it gives you guys some peace of mind I've ordered off him 6 times before, all next day delivery, top notch buds too.

But yeah,, when SR came back up I went looking straight away to get some ganja, I noticed he lowered his prices - they were cheap before but not that cheap - and requiring FE for absolutely no fuckin' reason at all rang alarm bells.

Looks like ETM the second, made his prices the cheapest so he could pull in more suckers before he did a runner. Someone  should put this in the Australian thread
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: southpour on May 02, 2013, 07:06 am
Very sorry to here that dude, just 3 points for me and I knew the risk was there. He's feedback and story was a little sketchy to say the least, definitely would not have trusted him with a few laca. Not worth the risk, doing a few hundred cold is enough of a lesson for me.

I would have like to put this in the Australian Thread and much sooner but it wont let me post, does it not allow new users or is there some other reason?? Wanted to warn people ages ago but with SR down, and not being able to post it just wasn't possible. Hoping people check him out here before committing, his feedback is actually improving with all these FE's...damn
Yep, same here....
I've been hit hard by this (possible) scam, to the tune of $2150.
I'm so, so gutted.
That money meant a lot to me...
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: Tommy Vercetti on May 02, 2013, 07:08 am
Also, just noticed all his listings are gone and when I click on his name it only takes me to my messages that I've sen him...

So either SR have deleted his account or he's closed it (if that's possible).

Either way, not looking very promising for us at this stage.
This has completely dirtied my view on FE, despite having 100% past success any time doing it :(
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: southpour on May 02, 2013, 07:17 am
Yep, something has happened to his account but I had already written off receiving anything or getting a refund...

Unfortunately with his success I would bet he will be back under some other username, best people be very careful from now on. If it's too good to be true, it most like is! Lucky I spread out my orders to suss out different vendors. At least now I know some good ones now...
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: Tommy Vercetti on May 02, 2013, 07:28 am
FUCK THIS COCKSUCKER!!
Oh the things I would do if I ever met him...!
I hope you're reading this you lowlife piece of fucking scum.
Karma will fix you right up!
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: southpour on May 02, 2013, 07:35 am
FUCK THIS COCKSUCKER!!
Oh the things I would do if I ever met him...!
I hope you're reading this you lowlife piece of fucking scum.
Karma will fix you right up!

I am new to SR too, so I feel for you dude. But be more careful throwing that kind of coin around, no one is invincible

I can vouch for IceIceIce, received an order placed with him last night this afternoon. So super fast, well packaged and decent gear

Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: I_hate_scammers on May 02, 2013, 07:49 am
More than seven days and EXPRESS POST from vendor SmoothSailing hasn't been delivered

___Vendor insists on FE
______No replies to messages
_________SR says vendor last here "Today"


Smooth Sailing it 'aint!

That fucking sucks, but I wish people would stop FE. I've never had to do that from day one, but granted I was buying only 1g of bud at a time. And there's a lot more members now then there were then, so it was less risky for the vendors. Now it's much different.

I understand why vendors require that, but you noobs are going to have to build up a transaction history before trying to buy drugs. Buy digital goods, books, PC equipment, etc. Digital goods are probably the best bet since they should be finalized right away (you're getting it instantly) and they are relatively cheap, so if by chance you do get beat somehow, it's not a huge loss.

If you guys let me know the quantities you are looking for, I'll give you good weed vendors that are trustworthy and newbie friendly.

But build up your history any way you can; never finalize early. You might as well just bend over and wait for them to fuck you.

And I'm truly sorry to all of you who've been scammed. I've been a member since 11/2011 and I've never had to take anyone to resolution. None of my orders have ever been lost in the mail. And I've never actually been scammed, although I have had 2 people attempt it unsuccessfuly. It is possible to be 100% sucessful here as a buyer. You have to use a combination of the info on the forums, the feedback (all of it), seller rank and rating, number of transactions, and gut intstinct. Take the sum of all of those parts and that will tell you what to do. And stay away form the ones that have only 5/5 FE early.

I wish you all better next time.
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: eerva on May 02, 2013, 07:52 am
Yep, same here....
I've been hit hard by this (possible) scam, to the tune of $2150.
I'm so, so gutted.
That money meant a lot to me...

Why did you FE on an order that large?
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: mg101 on May 02, 2013, 08:37 am
Bugger, looks like I'm in good company...
Only a small order for me but I still wish evil things upon his person...
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: southpour on May 02, 2013, 10:13 am
More than seven days and EXPRESS POST from vendor SmoothSailing hasn't been delivered

___Vendor insists on FE
______No replies to messages
_________SR says vendor last here "Today"


Smooth Sailing it 'aint!

That fucking sucks, but I wish people would stop FE. I've never had to do that from day one, but granted I was buying only 1g of bud at a time. And there's a lot more members now then there were then, so it was less risky for the vendors. Now it's much different.

I understand why vendors require that, but you noobs are going to have to build up a transaction history before trying to buy drugs. Buy digital goods, books, PC equipment, etc. Digital goods are probably the best bet since they should be finalized right away (you're getting it instantly) and they are relatively cheap, so if by chance you do get beat somehow, it's not a huge loss.

If you guys let me know the quantities you are looking for, I'll give you good weed vendors that are trustworthy and newbie friendly.

But build up your history any way you can; never finalize early. You might as well just bend over and wait for them to fuck you.

And I'm truly sorry to all of you who've been scammed. I've been a member since 11/2001 and I've never had to take anyone to resolution. None of my orders have ever been lost in the mail. And I've never actually been scammed, although I have had 2 people attempt it unsuccessfuly. It is possible to be 100% sucessful here as a buyer. You have to use a combination of the info on the forums, the feedback (all of it), seller rank and rating, number of transactions, and gut intstinct. Take the sum of all of those parts and that will tell you what to do. And stay away form the ones that have only 5/5 FE early.

I wish you all better next time.

I don't think this is necessarily true, sure people need to choose the vendors they deal with carefully.

Since joining early last week I have had 3/4 orders go through without a hitch, the order with smoothsailing was always a gamble and because other SR users seem to have no issue FE'ing and had been processing orders hand over fist - it seemed far more legit than what it was!

Anyway, Nas would say "it ain't hard to tell" who the reputable vendors are, sticking with those with a good track record still leaves you with plenty of viable options for obtaining basically everything domestically within Australia. Do not treat this site as a "cheap" method of getting gear, you get what you pay for and in some cases that will be nothing! If you use it to get better quality gear at around street prices and even a little below, I am confident you will achieve your goals.

And if that isn't how you want to roll, at least recognise you are gambling with the money you are FE'ing...
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: Winky Doodle on May 02, 2013, 10:29 am
Looks like he's smoothsailing but not smoothmailing -.-
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: admansta on May 02, 2013, 10:43 am
What a fucker...

Must be related to ETM.
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: mdmafx on May 02, 2013, 10:58 am
 I posted a warning in the forums about this guy a few weeks ago.  His whole operation just reeked of SCAM. The fact his rating was 86, he had feedback stating previous deliveries had not made it and selling ounces of Medical Grade weed for $300 an ounce -  $100 cheaper than any reputable vendor and using a generic photo taken from google non the less... Anyone those that FE take it as a lesson to be learn when using Silk Road as you have lost your money this time. In future, always check the forums before ordering and if you are unsure just ask as many users here have seen many scams on Silk Road so know the the tell tale signs...
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: DrMc on May 02, 2013, 11:19 am
I've said it once , I'll say it again never FE unless it for a trusted seller or its your first couple of buys and the vendor asks you to , and it that case make sure you go with a reputed vendor ok.

I'm really sorry to hear that he scammed a lot of people...I can kinda understand why , there wasn't a lot of gear goin around last week and his prices weren't too bad , there wasn't much to choose from.
BUT...you only had to look at his feedback and people weren't updating their feedback after 2-3 days , that tells me that they haven't received their orders.

Any feedback that said that they had received was either Smoothsailing posing as customer or he did send some orders just to lend validity to the scam.

I'm maybe a little older than some of you guys , coming up to the big 40 soon , and I dont mean to sound like I know it all , but just be a little more careful ok. I it looks dodgy it probably is. If your unsure about the vendor read the feedback and search the forums.

Stay safe and get high !!!

Oh and Smoothsailing , I know you will read this , Karma is coming to get you...
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 02, 2013, 11:53 am


Looks like ETM the second, made his prices the cheapest so he could pull in more suckers before he did a runner. Someone  should put this in the Australian thread
This has been mentioned on the Australian thread. SmoothSailing has been suss for a while now. Can't believe his account remained active for so long. Thought it would have gotten banned much sooner.
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 02, 2013, 11:54 am
Yep, same here....
I've been hit hard by this (possible) scam, to the tune of $2150.
I'm so, so gutted.
That money meant a lot to me...
Wasn't that for 14gm of ice or something huge like that?
I would NEVER FE for that amount. Not even from overseas.
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 02, 2013, 11:56 am
Also, just noticed all his listings are gone and when I click on his name it only takes me to my messages that I've sen him...

So either SR have deleted his account or he's closed it (if that's possible).

Either way, not looking very promising for us at this stage.
This has completely dirtied my view on FE, despite having 100% past success any time doing it :(
That means the account has either been deleted or downgraded to a buyer only account.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but everyone who has finalised for SmoothSailing is not getting their money back.
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: southpour on May 02, 2013, 11:56 am
I posted a warning in the forums about this guy a few weeks ago.  His whole operation just reeked of SCAM. The fact his rating was 86, he had feedback stating previous deliveries had not made it and selling ounces of Medical Grade weed for $300 an ounce -  $100 cheaper than any reputable vendor and using a generic photo taken from google non the less... Anyone those that FE take it as a lesson to be learn when using Silk Road as you have lost your money this time. In future, always check the forums before ordering and if you are unsure just ask as many users here have seen many scams on Silk Road so know the the tell tale signs...

Definitely suss out forums if in doubt, that is sound advice. Unfortunately SR going down and the forums being inaccessible made this impossible for me, guessing others had this same issue. As I did have my doubts fortunately my losses are limited, still who wants to hand over money to some dickhead junkie who is ruining peoples confidence and bringing down the community?
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 02, 2013, 12:05 pm
If you want weed, order from me!
Nobody is required to FE - But finalise as soon as it arrives.
You can see by my feedback I am a trusted vendor.
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: DrMc on May 02, 2013, 12:09 pm
I can vouch for Electrik and Dimecurio both top quality product , fast delivery and good stealth. Didnt ask me to FE even though I only had 2-3 transactions at the time
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: Winky Doodle on May 02, 2013, 04:16 pm
I posted a warning in the forums about this guy a few weeks ago.  His whole operation just reeked of SCAM. The fact his rating was 86, he had feedback stating previous deliveries had not made it and selling ounces of Medical Grade weed for $300 an ounce -  $100 cheaper than any reputable vendor and using a generic photo taken from google non the less... Anyone those that FE take it as a lesson to be learn when using Silk Road as you have lost your money this time. In future, always check the forums before ordering and if you are unsure just ask as many users here have seen many scams on Silk Road so know the the tell tale signs...

On top of that. I would also recommend never buying from any vendor with a feedback rating lower than 98, with only a few exceptions. They have low feedback for a reason and it's not for delivering quality product :P

I was amazed, there was this guy called MrNizeGuy007 selling a bunch of different things. He has an 86 rating people are still ordering from him! I looked at his feedback thread to see why he had such low feedback, and one person even said they had ordered some shrooms, and the package was weeks late or something. On top of that, it wasn't even what he ordered, it was like half the shrooms and couple buds of blueberry kush, and the guy said the box reeked when he picked it up. Why would you want to take that chance?

Amazingly, people are still ordering from him!

His most recent low feedback the last time I had checked was for selling fake hydrocodone as that's what I was looking to buy. It looks like he delivers perfectly for some people, and completely fucks over the other person (maybe he uses the drugs instead of sells them sometimes, but still wants the money so he rips people off every time that happens). I would never deal with that guy, it's like playing russian roulette.  I'm amazed that people are still ordering off him, if I was that guy I would of already created a new account to try to salvage any last reputation I had.

Who knows, he might already have another account and just uses that one as an alternate account to rip people off with to gain more money. Either way, I could come up with tons of ways ordering from somebody with low feedback would a bad choice, it's just not a good idea at all. Period.
Title: Re: Vendor SmoothSailing
Post by: admansta on May 03, 2013, 01:26 am
Looks like he's smoothsailing but not smoothmailing -.-

CUDOS to you Winky Doodle - Hilarious!!!