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Title: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: lemonhead168 on November 19, 2012, 04:36 am
Hi,
So I've taken low dosages of hydrocodone and vicanin which I enjoyed but  recently heard that some opiate pills can create a euphoria close to that of heroin! I was wondering which one would make me feel the best and what dosage I would need to take, preferably through oral ingestion, although I would maybe be ok with doming it as well.  I've also heard about smoking it but I'm not sure if that would make the effects more intense or what?  I don't have any tolerance at all to any opiates.  I really want to see what heroin feels like but I'm too scared to do the real thing for now. 
Title: Re: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: MC Haberdasher on November 19, 2012, 05:05 am
My advice..

Quit while you are ahead.  My life hasn't exactly improved since I started using things like coke and dope.  I have also had friends of mine turn pretty ugly inside and out once the opiates get a hold of em.

Stick to weed and hash.  Some really good stuff on the road!
Title: Re: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: papples on November 19, 2012, 05:17 am
Take MC's advice to heart.


That being said, Opiates are Opiates. Some are synthetic, some semi-synthetic. Some of them are more euphoric than others but all opiates basically give the same feeling. If I were you, I'd use opiates sparingly and try your heart out not to build a tolerance to them. Many of us, long time users, wish that we could get high off 10mg of some pill. Anyway, stick to hydrocodone or maybe try some oxycodone. Opiates are the type of thing that demand respect and the user needs to have some experience with them. So if you're going to try anything harder, ask around and get some advice from people IRL. Don't buy dope off SR. You need someone to guide you along the journey.
Title: Re: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: lemonhead168 on November 19, 2012, 05:38 am
Well I'm actually really good at not giving in to addictions so I just want to buy the best opiates so that when I do indulge, I feel as good as possible! I researched a bit and found that a lot of people really like fentanyl (smoking it?) and diluadid but I really have no idea how much I would take or anything.  I really appreciate the advice MC and papples, but I know the risk I'm taking and know a lot of people get hooked on pain meds. I've thought about it a lot and I want to try something stronger than hydrocodone.  I'd rather not work up to something stronger, because I don't plan on doing them often at all.  I mainly just want to satisfy my curiousity, same as when I've tried numerous other highly addictive drugs.

Also MC do you know if morracan hash is any different than regular hash?  I'm going to spain soon and I heard that morrocan hash is really cheap there but I wondered if it was as good of quality as regular hash? Because I thought hash should be more expensive and more potent than regular weed.
Title: Re: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: papples on November 19, 2012, 05:47 am
Fentanyl is very potent and I'd advise against it(b/c it seems you have a low/no tolerance). It might be dangerous for you, again, because of tolerance. As for Dilaudid, it's super pricey and not that great if taken orally. It's a totally different beast when you IV the stuff. If I were you, I'd sniff portions of a 30mg oxycodone tablet. It'll give you a nice buzz
Title: Re: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: JesusFish on November 19, 2012, 05:55 am
Smoking is fucking stupid and wasteful. Don't smoke pills. It's a short high that wastes a lot of the drug and you are inhaling many harmful pill binders and shit.

If you won't IV, then snorting opana is the next best thing to heroin or dilaudid injection. Other than that, roxies (oxycodone 30mg) is the other opiate of choice of most and usually competing with heroin in availability. Do 15-20mg your first time. I like to snort them, but eating them is just as good.
Title: Re: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: lemonhead168 on November 19, 2012, 06:27 am
Awesome yea I think I'm going to try snorting the opana.  How much would you suggest doing for my first time?
Title: Re: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: AnonEmouse on November 20, 2012, 04:58 am
Hi,
So I've taken low dosages of hydrocodone and vicanin which I enjoyed but  recently heard that some opiate pills can create a euphoria close to that of heroin! I was wondering which one would make me feel the best and what dosage I would need to take, preferably through oral ingestion, although I would maybe be ok with doming it as well.  I've also heard about smoking it but I'm not sure if that would make the effects more intense or what?  I don't have any tolerance at all to any opiates.  I really want to see what heroin feels like but I'm too scared to do the real thing for now.

codeine cough syrup was pretty euphoric when i was new to opiates . i started with hydrocodone/vics and 5mg percocet . and they were allways pretty uppidty for me . i liked the syrup cuz it was more dreamy n such . (i'd only take the recommended dose or double that , and smoke a 1E with it , and was ahhhhHHHHhhh)

 but um yeah . MC Haberdasher speaks the truth. you are better off quitting while ahead . i also was always good at "not succumbing to addictions" as you say . did everything from meth/crack/coke/acid/and on and on for years with no problems. pretty much a weekend warrior. and for the first few years opiates where great . but . . yeah  . life happens
fast forward to now , im back to being casually addicted . but I have definitely gone thru hell with pills/heroin . lost some good friends to death or just junky'ism etc etc.
I was just imagining if someone woulda told me to be careful when i was just eating vicodin . could have saved me alot of shit . but of course , I would have never listened anyway . and everyone needs to learn shit for themselves.

but yeah papple's got a great point as well. that it's pretty dangerous to just try drugs on SR with no guidance IRL

Title: Re: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: betaraybob on November 20, 2012, 05:52 am
not to endorse progressive drug use but i found that oxys were the perfect upgrade from the tabs and norcos and percs. now with the formula changed its a bit different but i still get a nice buzz from OP 80s for extended periods of time.
Title: Re: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: SRTRAVLER on November 20, 2012, 06:59 am
you might like ketamine
Title: Re: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: PILL CITY on November 21, 2012, 10:46 am
Lemonhead168-
May I suggest potentiation?
That way you can stick to Vicodin/Hydrocodone, but intensify the euphoria and possibly prolong the duration.
A few ways you can enhance your experience:

1) "Parachuting"
Go to CVS and buy a cheap pill crusher. Crush a few vikes into a fine powder. You can then "toss & wash" them or mix with some flavored beverage. The increased surface area from pulverizing the pill will hit MUCH harder.

2) Grapefruit Juice
Now this has to be 100% grapefruit juice and you have a drink at least a cup or two approximately an hour before you dose. Try with parachuted pills for more intensity.

3) Robitussin (with DXM)
Same idea as the grapefruit juice. Drink a couple of tablespoons about an hour before you dose. The onset is much slower, but the feeling is a MUCH heavier sedation. It will definitely give you the nod if done properly. Some may find too strong.

4) Plugging
Not exactly potentiation, but you can insert powdered or liquified hydrocodone (powder mixed with water) anally. No this is not a joke and yes it hits stronger. Of course for many reasons, this route is not as openly discussed or known.

I hope these help. I've been personally eating vikes since 2000 and to this day I still eat them almost exclusively. I've tried shooting up, poppy tea, fentanyl, kratom, etc. and to this day I still have eyes for my first love.


PC
Title: Re: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: GORDENRAMSEY on November 21, 2012, 03:11 pm
Well I'm actually really good at not giving in to addictions

The famous last words
15 years later and $100,000 less

I'm also an expert in kicking opiates...I've done it over 50 times:)
Title: Re: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: NoddingOff on November 21, 2012, 04:06 pm
30mg oxycodones were my DOC before buying some heroin on the road here. I snorted and ate them. I hate the feeling now but at the time it was fantastic. Energetic, euphoric and nodding off...it was cool.

But be aware that your tolerance will build quickly. I'm only like, 22 and since I got my appendix out when I was 13 I've been popping pain killers on and off (the dilaudid they gave me in the IV omgg I can't forget). Started off with perc fives, then 10s, then a couple 10s, then the cold Water extraction for taking 75mg of pecosets and shit, then I found those fun little blueberries, then OP 80s and now Heroin.

Not like I IV that much but seriously man I wouldn't even consider myself an addict until I type it all out to look at it.

but then again everyone types their stories online and none of that ever stopped me lol. So I guess if you're gonna, go try those 30mg roxies! They're the shit until you need 4 or 5 to get the same high, homie.

good luck!
Title: Re: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: eazy e on November 22, 2012, 04:13 am
this is a rediculous question "I want to try a drug that feels closest to heroin but I don't want to try heroin." whatever effects that scare you away from heroin would be just as bad with whatever substitute you find, it just wouldn't have the scary name "heroin". it would be just as dangerous, just as addictive, more expensive, and less euphoric. I'm not saying go out and do heroin, but get real about it. if you want to gamble with opiates/your life then go for it, but keep in mind it's often a one way street and once you feel that strong euphoria you're looking for you can't unfeel it. this is coming from a former heroin addict. there are plenty of drugs that are less dangerous and give better euphoria than opiates. I suggest trying a combination of mdma and ghb, keep the ghb dose low. neither of these drugs are as addictive or dangerous as heroin/opiates.

in the name of harm reduction I'll answer your question, since you're probably going to do it anyways. since you only want to do oral admin your options are limited. I think opana and dilaudid are both very euphoric, but that is via the i.v. route. don't bother taking opana orally, it has a horribly low B.A.. there is also oxycodone, which is horribly expensive and doesn't last long, but this is probably your best bet if you're only wiling to take it orally. don't bother snorting oxy, the effects are stronger and last longer with oral. if you got a opana 40 with no tolerance you could easily die from doing less than one pill if you plugged it or i.v.'d it. dilaudid isn't much better. Morphine is a classic, but the respiratory depression (what kills you when you o.d.) is equally as bad. this is a dangerous game.

I've heard good things about plugging, but since I only I.V.'d I've never felt the need to try it. you get a good rush apparently and since it bypasses first pass metabolism the B.A. is generally higher.
Title: Re: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: personaluse on November 22, 2012, 04:17 am
My advice - Oxycontin is the shit. Even better than Heroin. Do about 20mg without breaking it up! if you're not tolerant.

Please do be careful though - all opiods are addictive, you can get off them, but it's a bitch of a thing to do (more pain than the pleasure you get all added up).

Peace  - Mr P
Title: Re: Best opiate high besides heroin??
Post by: amymolly on November 22, 2012, 09:08 am
Codeine syrup my friend!