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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Advanced Logic on December 08, 2011, 01:09 am

Title: What 2 do in case of a "controlled delivery"
Post by: Advanced Logic on December 08, 2011, 01:09 am
I am not on any side in this issue.

But it is possible that the police did a buy bust operation using the GummyStars account. If the police were 2 do a buy bust on the GummyStars account I think it would go like this..

Fed agency, most likely DEA purchases and directly controls GummyStars. Decides 2 attempt "reverse-buys" using GummyStars. Has the realization that money can be made as well as arrests. Comes up with a very clever scheme 2 encourage people 2 finalize early. People finalize early therefor paying the DEA agent for the agreed upon illicit substance.

The DEA would then do a controlled deliver of the substance.

Although this is a very small case the DEA is under allot of pressure 2 do something about Silk Road. Every law enforcement agency seems powerless so 2 round up 15-20 people for purchasing on SR could be a publicity stunt.

However, if the DEA does a controlled buy here are some tips. If you are waiting on a package from GummyStars listen up:

DEA Controlled Buys:

1) DEA identifies an illicit shipment

2) DEA formulates a plan 2 do a "controlled" delivery

3) The DEA relays on a complex series of actions that must take place in order for the suspect 2 be convicted. Those 3 general steps are listed A - C

A. Suspect takes possession of package.

B. Suspect opens package.

C. Suspect is caught in possession of package.

*Unneeded but greatly desired --- suspects admits 2 obtaining contraband
What is a controlled delivery?

A controlled delivery is where some government agency found contraband (drugs, guns, African diamonds, rhino horn, untaxed cigs) in a package and chooses 2 allow delivery of the package using one of their agencies employees in attempt 2 arrest who the package was addressed 2.

Signs of a "fed or police mail man"

A new mail man is delivering mail 2day

Your mail main knocks on the door and requests you by name

You are asked 2 sign for a parcel

The mail man is using a mail van instead of the normal jeep


If a controlled delivery is being conducted the best thing 2 do would be not 2 open the door. If hes seen you open the door, but refuse anything you have 2 sign for or anything that you think may be drugs or contraband. If the letter is placed in your mail box take it in2 your home but do not open it for 2-3 days. A jury wont convict drug possession for an unopened piece of mail. Do not admit or deny if your caught red handed, ask for a lawyer and say nothing.

No matter what they tell you do not talk without a lawyer. If they say we have you on video say " I need 2 talk 2 a lawyer" if they say we will cut your sentence down 2 just "15 months" say I need 2 talk 2 a lawyer. Do not say anything. The more questions they ask you the better clue you have 2 how much they actually know. If they are asking allot don't tenses up try 2 relax it means they don't know much and an admission of guild is really what they are after.

SECOND PURPOSE OF A CONTROLED BUY - In many cases large drug shipments will be shipped 2 associates, family members, or people under threat of violence and they will be used as currieors, holding the drugs at thier home after the deliver until within usually a few hours a representative of the organization who actually owns the drug will pick up the drugs. Any large drug shipment is subjected 2 this tactic. The odds are that no drug dealer is going 2 order 2 kilos 2 thier home. The odds are they are using an trusted associates address. Therefore the police will monitor the address, in some cases for several days after the package has been arrived. Once they identify who they believe is the actual owner of the drugs they will allow him/her 2 exit the home/business. They will allow the suspect 2 drive a short distance after which he will be pulled over at gun point and extreme force will be used in order for the police 2 immediately shock/scare and take control of the situation.


Title: Re: What 2 do in case of a "controlled delivery"
Post by: Advanced Logic on December 08, 2011, 01:47 am
If you found this thread helpful please visit it a 2nd time and vote. If this article did not benefit you please vote as such.
Title: Re: What 2 do in case of a "controlled delivery"
Post by: sickboy on December 09, 2011, 07:31 pm
I thought the section on LE interegation was helpful. You should never say anything, even if it is the truth, when being questioned without a lawyer. It is also probably true that the more questions they ask, the less they know.
Title: Re: What 2 do in case of a "controlled delivery"
Post by: bsalt on December 09, 2011, 08:04 pm
If you do get popped for anything ever the only words you should say when questioned are "I want a lawyer". If they have picked you up, you are not going to be able to talk yourself out of it. Here is a video everyone should watch. The guy talks really fast but makes very good points.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc