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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: Jimmy245 on May 02, 2012, 03:59 pm

Title: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: Jimmy245 on May 02, 2012, 03:59 pm
Obviously the 4/20 sale was used as an opportunity for some well-known vendors to run big scams.  Perhaps SR should avoid sales in the future so as not to encourage this type of scamming. I think at the end of the day, more people got hurt in the sale than saved money.  Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: hatedpatriot on May 02, 2012, 04:20 pm
SR doesn't have sales, vendors do. So, unless you intend to restrict the choices of buyers and sellers, this is a moot point. Please wake up guys and stop begging SR to restrict us and just make better choices, don't do away with choice.
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: Jimmy245 on May 02, 2012, 04:25 pm
I think you need to wake up, dude.  SR does have sales.  Silk Road initiated, promoted and implemented the 4/20 sale.  I think you are just not paying attention.  I'm not referring to specific vendor sales, and I'm not suggesting SR restrict us.  Perhaps you should re-read my post s l o w l y, because clearly you don't understand.
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: Limetless on May 02, 2012, 04:33 pm
Yes it should have sales. It should just have people smart enough to not FE. Why blame blaming SR for a FUD that you decided to make. Like I said to someone else in another thread SR ain't your dad, it don't took you in at night and it definitely don't kiss you on the head. It's a place where you buy/sell drugs and other bits and pieces.
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: Jimmy245 on May 02, 2012, 04:44 pm
Yes it should have sales. It should just have people smart enough to not FE. Why blame blaming SR for a FUD that you decided to make. Like I said to someone else in another thread SR ain't your dad, it don't took you in at night and it definitely don't kiss you on the head. It's a place where you buy/sell drugs and other bits and pieces.

I agree with your sentiment Limitless, but it seems like there are so many new buyers coming to SR all the time, that it's impossible to prevent FE generally.  You and I won't FE, but for each one of us, there's 10 noobs that are going to do it.

I'm thinking that SR having these big sales is making SR a worse place, not a better place, overall.  Mind you, I'm not blaming SR for what happened with Tony.  That's not my point.  I'm just thinking that SR promoting these big blowout sales could be problematic for SR in the future.  I wonder if, at the end of the day, DPR considers the 4/20 sale to be successful or a not.  I'm guessing not.

The 4/20 sale worked out fine for me.  I got some good stuff and saved some BTC.  But I don't think it was good for the Road.
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: deadfuture on May 02, 2012, 05:22 pm
I agree with limitless mostly, no problem with the sales just don't FE.  I got everything I wanted during the sale without problems, in escrow. 

If anything the sale really did open my eyes at how much SR is making off of commission if they can afford to give away 10-100 BTC every 420 seconds for 72 hours...
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: Limetless on May 02, 2012, 05:32 pm
Yes it should have sales. It should just have people smart enough to not FE. Why blame blaming SR for a FUD that you decided to make. Like I said to someone else in another thread SR ain't your dad, it don't took you in at night and it definitely don't kiss you on the head. It's a place where you buy/sell drugs and other bits and pieces.

I agree with your sentiment Limitless, but it seems like there are so many new buyers coming to SR all the time, that it's impossible to prevent FE generally.  You and I won't FE, but for each one of us, there's 10 noobs that are going to do it.

I'm thinking that SR having these big sales is making SR a worse place, not a better place, overall.  Mind you, I'm not blaming SR for what happened with Tony.  That's not my point.  I'm just thinking that SR promoting these big blowout sales could be problematic for SR in the future.  I wonder if, at the end of the day, DPR considers the 4/20 sale to be successful or a not.  I'm guessing not.

The 4/20 sale worked out fine for me.  I got some good stuff and saved some BTC.  But I don't think it was good for the Road.

Yeah maybe you are right. I think personally they shouldn't ban FE because it does have it's uses and I do demand it in 2 circumstances (no-to-low-history or if I'm buying something for someone). I genuinely don't think it's the sale that was to blame though. It's people hyping themselves up over it and not keeping their head on their shoulders.
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: hatedpatriot on May 02, 2012, 07:34 pm
I see SR's promotion of sales as them advertising the events because after all they get a commission. Beyond that, I don't see SR as having anything to do with the sales. The vendors are still the ones who decide to do it and either do or dont. What you are asking is essentially is if SR should do like they they did with cigarette commercials years ago. They banned the commercials but not the cigarettes since they figured the commercials lured people into buying the deadly little bastards. No matter how slow I read it, thats what I get from it.

There is no need to get all hyper active. You're welcome to get that way if you want, but I'm not gonna join you, waaaay to stoned.
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: jaco7 on May 02, 2012, 08:23 pm
Sales are good but you should be very careful when they are on
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: SKYY on May 02, 2012, 11:23 pm


Well, I sure don't like them. I didn't have any special prices during the sale but I still was affected.

The whole week coming up to the date sales are lower because everyone is waiting. And then suddenly on the date everybody buys and we have a number of envelopes to send that is totally irresponsible to do.

I have the best price and quality anyway, regardless of sales. ;)
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: Delta11 on May 02, 2012, 11:29 pm


Well, I sure don't like them. I didn't have any special prices during the sale but I still was affected.

The whole week coming up to the date sales are lower because everyone is waiting. And then suddenly on the date everybody buys and we have a number of envelopes to send that is totally irresponsible to do.

I have the best price and quality anyway, regardless of sales. ;)
That was my biggest concern as well from a vendor's perspective. I had so many orders it was the most irresponsible thing I've done in my SR career because I put my safety on the line for the 4/20 sale since I had to drop off several packages over a small period of time to a limited amount of post offices. This is why now I am taking a long break so the heat can die down but I don't think I'll participate in the next sale, too much of a headache.
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: Limetless on May 02, 2012, 11:43 pm
I just went to a few different post offices.
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: Jimmy245 on May 03, 2012, 12:01 am
Good point, Skyy.  I hadn't even thought of the increased risk for vendors.
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: cacoethes on May 03, 2012, 12:54 am
I'm not a big fan of the sales I've seen so far, because the amount I save isn't worth the decrease in "customer service" and the delay in shipping times that sales inevitably cause.

But then again, my orders are never for more than a couple hundred bucks at a time.  If I was a bigger spender, it would obviously make more of a difference to me.  I budget a certain amount to spend, and I'm going to spend it regardless.  While a sale might save me a little coin, it's not enough to actually increase the amount of product I get without me spending more than what I wanted to anyway.

That's just me, though.  I'm sure for a lot of people, sales are more exciting.





Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: lilith2u on May 03, 2012, 01:01 am
NO! If a vendor and and a buyer want to work out a deal that's one thing, but this shits out of control......sucks there's just a handful of vendors that sell what i want domestic." If we don't learn from the past were condemned to repeat it!" I just made that up!....not really
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: budtopia on May 03, 2012, 02:37 am
It's not as if mail delivery statistics didn't go wild on 4/20.
It would be wise to schedule another big sale like that on 3/20, to prevent an extremely predictable and dangerous pattern to occur.
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: 420jordan on May 09, 2012, 02:33 pm
The Road should still have sales. People just need to smarten up and use commonsense when buying, and as has been said numerous times, smarten up and do not finalize early.
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: dave00 on May 09, 2012, 07:02 pm
trusted seller for sales and it's all ok
I don't think we have to close all the sales
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: bp on May 10, 2012, 01:43 am
It seems to me the sales are just making an easier target for mail detection and interception.

Scammers? Sure and the sales give those like Tony a perfect setup but that is a product of putting vendors on a pedestal and whipping up on any discouraging words, no matter true or not.
Just like IRL....the guy with the bag owns you. If you can't speculate or discuss ANYTHING for fear of being cut off, ESPECIALLY if the vendor talks that talk, then he OWNS you. I came here to never deal with that again.
So the scammer part of sales isn't an issue because it fits in another category, personal responsibility. And using the tools we have to accurately keep each other informed.


But unless all vendor/buyer units voluntarily randomize/delay shipping a sale concentrates the probabilities of discovery, by either LE or mail thieves.

I'm not going to vote cause it ain't no fuckin democracy, it's something that works instead, the free market. I'll vote with my bitcoins.
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: BigBill6778 on May 10, 2012, 02:16 am
If people are stupid enough to finalize early then they get what they get.

There is a reason that we have escrow and I don't think it is for saving a down payment on a house.If vendors ask for FE then that is their choice but remember BUYER BEWARE!.

Alot of people are pissed off because a couple vendors made off with alot of money & I sure would be upset if it were my cash but I learned the same way others did I FE once and got burned now never again will it happen to me.

I have only asked 1 buyer to FE early because he wanted my product and he had an outragous refund number 29.4% I told him I would ship but he would need to FE early to try and help him repair his stats which he did & he received his parcel a couple days later.

 no big issue but sometimes buyers need help & to be scammed is one reason Buyers will claim they never shipped or never arrived when they start a resolution I think many just try to make their money back from other vendors because they were scammed by someone else

FE should be the choice of the buyer But he should be the one responsible and stop whining when he gets ripped off he already knows the rules here and to carry on these long annoying threads about this scam & that scam everyone knows after the first ten posts 
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: itwasaliens! on May 10, 2012, 08:33 am
I think the sale was a wonderful idea. It encouraged me to spend a good bit at a time when I would have normally spent $0, as I wasn't actively looking for stuff, but instead saw great deals, sale items, and promos. It was certainly exciting!

I got excellent deals, and also won 10 BTC!  ;D

I look forward greatly to future events/sales.

I also never had to finalize early for any sale items.
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: Gary Oak on May 10, 2012, 09:33 am
If people are stupid enough to finalize early then they get what they get.

+1

I totally agree, after being a member for three months I have yet to finalize early for any of my purchases. I've managed to acquire all of the drugs I want with not the slightest problem, even during the sale. Buyers just need to use common sense, and if they lack that well then they probably shouldn't be wasting their precious few brain cells on drugs. People are obviously going to disagree with my opinion but oh well, haters gonna hate. 8)
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: theverde on May 10, 2012, 06:19 pm
Yes... IMO it's better if SR continue to have sales occasionally.. I saved goooood money in the two past sales, and reinvested them for other purchases... I was lucky to be not cheated by a scammer ( fucking scammers, i hate it  >:() but not too lucky to win something.

However i've not FE and i've made my business with good and honest vendors.. Well, Tony also seemed a good vendor before "the great 4/20 swindle"..
From now i will sticky to my best vendors, and give a chance to others only after reading good reviews here on the forum

We've got only this two weapons in our hands (research on forum and not FE).. LET'S USE IT!!
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: Joeyjojojr on May 12, 2012, 06:14 am
Correct me if I wrong but didnt DPR waive his 10% commission for the 420 sale? All the orders I placed on 4/20 came through with flying colors, and were received on monday afternoon (4/23)!

I did not finalize early for any of the purchases I made either btw. For me the 420 sale was awesome.

What happened with tony and the other scammers really put a hurt on the community, but could have all been prevented if buyers didnt finalize early.

I say let the sales continue, and thank you DPR!



Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: jpinkman on May 12, 2012, 08:25 am
So can someone explain how the sales work in terms of who covers the cut in price offered to customers? Do vendors or SR take the hit or is it split?
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: Joeyjojojr on May 12, 2012, 08:47 am
Again, correct me if im wrong, but i think SR waived their commission for the sale. Vendors prices dropped and their customers got all the benefits of in escrow protection and ordering online. Win/win for the buyers on SR.
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: themessenger2 on May 12, 2012, 08:50 am
Sales weren't the problem. FE was.
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: Kappacino on May 12, 2012, 10:14 am
Yes it should have sales. It should just have people smart enough to not FE. Why blame blaming SR for a FUD that you decided to make. Like I said to someone else in another thread SR ain't your dad, it don't took you in at night and it definitely don't kiss you on the head. It's a place where you buy/sell drugs and other bits and pieces.

This x 100.

4/20 was fucking sick. I won like £400 and so did a lot of people, plus the deals were on point.

There's no point stopping all that just because a lot of us got scammed. That's on us. Just don't fucking FE.

I mean, I don't understand asking SR to ban FE... Just don't FE..
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: Limetless on May 12, 2012, 12:05 pm
Yes it should have sales. It should just have people smart enough to not FE. Why blame blaming SR for a FUD that you decided to make. Like I said to someone else in another thread SR ain't your dad, it don't took you in at night and it definitely don't kiss you on the head. It's a place where you buy/sell drugs and other bits and pieces.

This x 100.

4/20 was fucking sick. I won like £400 and so did a lot of people, plus the deals were on point.

There's no point stopping all that just because a lot of us got scammed. That's on us. Just don't fucking FE.

I mean, I don't understand asking SR to ban FE... Just don't FE..

Exactly. If a person is responsible enough to find this place and see it's value then they are going to have to be responsible enough to take control of your buying security.

On another note I am tired of reading threads like this so I am having a 5 days sale where nobody with over 5+ transaction has to FE. DOIN IT LIKE A BOSS!
Title: Re: Should SR continue to have sales?
Post by: punkhippy on May 12, 2012, 11:16 pm
Heck yea they should continue to have sales and they should also continue to allow vendors to have their own sales. This is a sellers market and a great one at that.