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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: toysoldier1 on March 06, 2012, 06:38 am

Title: Optimal water to mix with H for IV dosing?
Post by: toysoldier1 on March 06, 2012, 06:38 am
New to IVing.  How much water should I mix with #4 heroin?

Im doing 5-20mg doses right now with 300mcgs of water (0.3cc).   Is this too little?  The heroin mixes nicely in this amount of water though. 

Also, does using more water get you higher? Or does it just prolong the rush or what?
Title: Re: Optimal water to mix with H for IV dosing?
Post by: microRNA on March 06, 2012, 08:38 am
so the balance between the water concentration involves getting all the dope to dissolve, while not being too concentrated to damage the veins. probably not as big a problem for clean potent dope

the less water the better to some extent because if the shot is too diluted the rush will be weakened. this is from all the dope being spread out and not being delivered quickly all across the blood brain barrier as rapidly together.

not sure about the perfect amount, but youre doing pretty little shots so if its dissolving easily Id say its fine.

a more experienced user may have better or more specific input though
Title: Re: Optimal water to mix with H for IV dosing?
Post by: toysoldier1 on March 06, 2012, 10:00 am
good, I bought about 700 0.3cc syringes so I need to use them up lol
Title: Re: Optimal water to mix with H for IV dosing?
Post by: microRNA on March 06, 2012, 11:14 am
thats awesome, not sure if you will need more water for larger shots, but its great you have so many sharp spikes. one of the most important things you can do is use a brand new needle each time. have you seen the microscopic difference after just one penetration? its striking and dramatic.

did you buy some of those crazy pebbles, i am waiting on some, but you definitely shouldnt need more than a tiny bit of water to dissolve that pure goodness

btw make sure you are filtering, everyone says its important no matter how clean the solution appears

Be safe!
Title: Re: Optimal water to mix with H for IV dosing?
Post by: jpisbetterthanme on March 06, 2012, 06:08 pm
have you seen the microscopic difference after just one penetration? its striking and dramatic.

Micro - can you link to that pic? I have seen it too and it's worth linking to; I just couldn't find it (or remember where I saw it).
Title: Re: Optimal water to mix with H for IV dosing?
Post by: otto320 on March 07, 2012, 03:13 am
Shyea...

http://208.116.9.205/10/content/24665/1.jpg
Title: Re: Optimal water to mix with H for IV dosing?
Post by: toysoldier1 on March 07, 2012, 03:41 am
thats awesome, not sure if you will need more water for larger shots, but its great you have so many sharp spikes. one of the most important things you can do is use a brand new needle each time. have you seen the microscopic difference after just one penetration? its striking and dramatic.

did you buy some of those crazy pebbles, i am waiting on some, but you definitely shouldnt need more than a tiny bit of water to dissolve that pure goodness

btw make sure you are filtering, everyone says its important no matter how clean the solution appears

Be safe!

Yeah, ive seen that needle pic, its pretty gross after first use.  I got tonys #4, im gonna order the pebbles next though  8) Everyone has been hyping them up so much haha. 

What if i miss a vein first try, should I use same needle for second poke or just get a new one?  I filer with cotton, is there something better I can be using?
Title: Re: Optimal water to mix with H for IV dosing?
Post by: microRNA on March 07, 2012, 10:56 am
This is why dull needles shouldnt be used, scroll down theres a pic:

 http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/348012-dull-needles-hurt!/page3


most people would probably pull out and re-use the needle if they miss, but some use a new needle for every single penetration to avoid more vein damage

if youre doing pills many people suggest wheel filters but theyre expensive, cotton is generally what people use for H