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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: kdizzle12 on August 21, 2013, 09:49 pm

Title: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: kdizzle12 on August 21, 2013, 09:49 pm
Recently, news/media haven't been able to keep their mouth shut about SR or it's related marketplaces, which doesn't surprise me too much, but lets get to the real issue here.

Many people decide that they should brag about how they just bought a couple mollies or a few hits of acid from the road, so they blindly post a picture and tag accordingly, just search the silkroad tag on tumblr and you'll see what I mean.

These shitty writers are starting to learn how to use the internet, and are including these tagged photos in their posts, many of which show methods of stealth some vendors use, blotter art, etc.

This is very, very bad. SR is a beautiful thing, but it is mostly populated by people who can think for themselves, people who aren't dumb enough to believe that every package and letter ever sent through anything is throughly searched. In my opinion, this is a huge reason for its' success. It's a community of mostly intelligent people who know how to protect their own and their vendor's privacy.

When you show methods of shipping, you're completely exposing what the vendor worked hard to keep from getting exposed. When you show blotter art, it makes it very easy to pinpoint the vendor it came from (I recognized a couple on a NYT post if I recall correctly).

Seriously, you're buying drugs, not food, keep your shit to yourself and off of your instagrams.

On another note, a primary focus of the articles are how teens, you read that right, kids, are buying from the road.

Now, there's really no way to know if your customer is an adult or not, so vendors can't really help fight this.

If you're a kid, you likely live with your family in the same house. Ordering from SR puts everyone and everything inside said house at risk. Also remember that your parents or legal guardians are the ones who take the biggest fall if anything from LE comes into play. Please, don't be that guy. Just wait until you're an adult.

Anyways, here's some very easy tips to keep yourself safe.

1: Keep your mouth shut regarding anything to do with mail ordering drugs

This is a must. If anyone asks where you got that o of dank ass buds, say your boy hooked you up, or, you know, don't answer.

2: PGP

This is also a must. Encrypt messages to vendors, your address, and anything else sensitive. You wouldn't see so many people telling you to use it if it wasn't that important. It's very easy to do, I promise.

3: Never, ever order anything with a fake name

It used to work, but LE is getting smarter. Only order using your real name. Using a name that has never received mail at the address prior, or that is currently receiving mail at a different address is almost always a guaranteed intercept, love letter, or for the really unlucky, a controlled delivery.

4: Never disclose your vendor's methods of stealth to anyone!

This one is also important. It's called stealth for a reason, keep it that way.

5: Never finalize early (FE)

Every so often, SR gets a round of scammers. They're actually very easy to detect. 99% of the time, they require FE, and usually they have lots of repeated feedback/FE's in their feedback. The escrow system is there for your protection, USE IT.

6: Don't make it easy for someone to figure out who you are.

A compromised identity is one of those things you just won't want. It puts you at risk. If anyone finds out your identity, trash it and make a new one. Simple as that. Don't continue using a compromised handle.

7: Pictures

Seriously, this isn't food you're buying here, don't show it off to your instagram / tumblr / etc followers, as well as the public eye. Pictures usually contain a geotag, with exact coordinates to where the picture was taken. That's not good.

8: The Silk Road subreddit

I still to this day question why this exists. It is on clearnet, and it is *reddit*. It's safe to say you should avoid it.

9: Multiple packages

It's a very bad idea to have multiple packages coming in the same period of time. Space things out.

10: Using anything but tor to access SR

Do not use services like onion.to to access SR, it defeats the whole purpose of tor and exposes everything to your ISP, which means LE can see it too.

11: Tails

Tails is a beautiful thing, and all you need to run it is a flash drive. It's an entire operating system based on privacy. It routes all connections via Tor, erases everything once you're done, and even has a Windows XP mode if you don't want people to think you're using it. Using Tails is an easy way to help keep you as hidden as possible.


I've likely missed a few things here, but following these steps should only help to keep you safer.

Happy tripping / rolling / blazing / etc! :)
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: phantomoto on August 22, 2013, 12:56 am
Thanks for taking the time to help ...................
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: parmesan on August 22, 2013, 09:42 am
ok cool good advice
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: folium on August 22, 2013, 09:58 am
Nice tips.
Can't agree about the Reddit though. As long as you access it through Tor, there's no problem. Especially when posting there. Needless to say it's a good idea to have a separate reddit account for that purpose.
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: Lester Burnham on August 22, 2013, 10:04 am
Good advice.
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: kdizzle12 on August 22, 2013, 07:38 pm
Nice tips.
Can't agree about the Reddit though. As long as you access it through Tor, there's no problem. Especially when posting there. Needless to say it's a good idea to have a separate reddit account for that purpose.

Ah right :P
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: hiesenberg on August 22, 2013, 07:44 pm
there should be some kind of popup stating these facts when you logon, also if a vendor sees his goods exposed there should be a way to block the buyer if he can be identified.
you shouldnt keep the address but try to remember the user?
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: rwitherspoon on August 22, 2013, 09:59 pm
Good advise, sad that it isn't all common sense to people
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: ireallygotthemunchies on August 22, 2013, 10:09 pm
niiiiiiiiice like ur talkin bro u makin cool sense. srsly ne1 whos bein a dick wit one o my favrt marktplaces best listen to this. shud be stikied (can u do that here? new to this frum)
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: seekingawake on August 23, 2013, 12:19 pm
Great advice, should also mention that booking from a secured, live Linux DVD should be required as well.
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: Colonel John Phoenix on August 23, 2013, 12:50 pm
Every newbie should read this. Excellent information.
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: kdizzle12 on August 24, 2013, 12:48 pm
Great advice, should also mention that booking from a secured, live Linux DVD should be required as well.

Ah yes, added to the list :)
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: JoyceBradburyKing on August 24, 2013, 01:16 pm
Spend copious amount time setting up layers of security to protect your identity and then blab about your illicit activity over the web. Include pictures too so everyone knows what a badass you are.

It really baffles the mind.

It show's a fundamental lack of understanding when it comes to technology and anonymity, not to mention of common sense.

The horrible truth is if anyone was stupid enough to do this in the first place I sincerely doubt they are the type of people who actually bothered to read any of the guides in the first place.

They are also the people who are putting themselves most at risk, not only because of self incrimination but also due to it being likely that they lack knowledge when it comes to narcotics. They are the type of people who would end up being the victim in stories like "Evil SR Kills Our Children!". The ones who help perpetuate all the fear mongering and media misinformation.

The real kicker is posting pictures of the packaging. How can anyone be so naive... Not only are you fucking the guy who you're relying on in the ass, you also open yourself up to some nasty repercussions from the less forgiving vendors. You know the drug dealers, who you fucked over, and who know your identity, because you're the moron who just announced to the entire internet that you buy drugs from SR.
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: CaptianKirk on August 24, 2013, 01:48 pm
very good info ....thats al lot of us newbie's needed this ..so im bumping it up
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: altoidstin on August 24, 2013, 02:04 pm
the FE thing is problematic to me.  Some vendors have a huge network of reviews and feedback yet require FE for a new buyer which I understand, yet there's plenty of "never FE" advice floating around.  Tough to know what to do.
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: seekingawake on August 24, 2013, 02:14 pm
I had to FE for my second order (which was small enough and with enough research that I felt ok), but have never had to since.

Won't ever again unless it's for a good reason (samples, long term relationship with vendor, etc.)

Best to be patient, reach out to reputable vendors and you can build up your rep in time.
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: kdizzle12 on August 25, 2013, 11:43 am
Spend copious amount time setting up layers of security to protect your identity and then blab about your illicit activity over the web. Include pictures too so everyone knows what a badass you are.

It really baffles the mind.

It show's a fundamental lack of understanding when it comes to technology and anonymity, not to mention of common sense.

The horrible truth is if anyone was stupid enough to do this in the first place I sincerely doubt they are the type of people who actually bothered to read any of the guides in the first place.

They are also the people who are putting themselves most at risk, not only because of self incrimination but also due to it being likely that they lack knowledge when it comes to narcotics. They are the type of people who would end up being the victim in stories like "Evil SR Kills Our Children!". The ones who help perpetuate all the fear mongering and media misinformation.

The real kicker is posting pictures of the packaging. How can anyone be so naive... Not only are you fucking the guy who you're relying on in the ass, you also open yourself up to some nasty repercussions from the less forgiving vendors. You know the drug dealers, who you fucked over, and who know your identity, because you're the moron who just announced to the entire internet that you buy drugs from SR.

There's just this thing about dumb people that causes them to brag about everything, and sadly bragging about buying from SR is becoming a fad
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: centropen on August 25, 2013, 02:55 pm
very good info :)
Kids be safe :)
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: medsman11 on August 25, 2013, 04:01 pm
tHANKS FOR THE INFORMATION FROM A 24 YEAR VET IN THE MEDS GAME!!!!
MEDSMAN
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: TonyS22 on August 25, 2013, 04:05 pm
Good info, thanks!

Anyone who feels the need to post photos of themselves with purchases is a fricking moron anyway....they deserve any negative effects of said stupid action!
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: wishihada2JZ on August 25, 2013, 05:17 pm
Fantastic post, +1
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: kdizzle12 on August 26, 2013, 12:00 am
Anyone who feels the need to post photos of themselves with purchases is a fricking moron anyway....they deserve any negative effects of said stupid action!

Agreed
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: franklinfranklin on August 26, 2013, 12:14 am
Thanks for the post. Glad to know someone is saying something
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: expandmind on August 26, 2013, 06:53 am
Glad you are raising awareness about the posting/tagging things / exposing stealth on clearnet.
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: manateemaster on August 26, 2013, 07:27 am
Thank you for the tips!  I've mostly been self taught when it comes to safe practices on the internet, but it's nice to read over things like this to make sure I am staying safe online.  Of most importance, I've come to avoid FE like the plague.  Save yourself the headaches friends! 

"It's the way of the Road" -  Ray from TPB. 
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: Weaponstech on August 29, 2013, 02:55 am
thanks. good thread.
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: CrunchWrappedCoke on August 29, 2013, 03:18 am
Good tips. It's nice to see reminders or other ways to help protect myself.
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: onebadnigga on August 29, 2013, 03:49 am
what where are the drugs i heard i can get drugs here were are they just bunch of bullshit
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: kdizzle12 on September 02, 2013, 10:35 am
what where are the drugs i heard i can get drugs here were are they just bunch of bullshit

i didn't think it was possible to find the forum before the main site
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: Thefrontwardsman on September 02, 2013, 08:02 pm
Not sure I understand the 10. Use anything but tor to access SR. 

I downloaded the torbrowser bundle and thought that using torbrowser was the only way TO access SR safely.?!?!
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: BastardBolton on September 02, 2013, 08:53 pm
Not sure I understand the 10. Use anything but tor to access SR. 

I downloaded the torbrowser bundle and thought that using torbrowser was the only way TO access SR safely.?!?!

Same here.. I'm a bit confused/concerned about this as well.. I thought we were supposed to use either TOR or better yet, TAILS to access SR.  If not the TOR/Vidalia network (or tails) then what are we supposed to use?  I'm currently working on getting Tails,. i need to go to the store and purchase 2 additional thumb-drives.  However, for the last couple weeks i've been running TOR from a thumbdrive through an open VPN.  This is am MAJOR concern.. Have i put myself at risk?!? 

Thank you.
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: yiquiyaca on September 02, 2013, 10:20 pm
All good advice.
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: kdizzle12 on September 03, 2013, 04:24 am
I was saying to use only legitimate tor to access the road

Tails is not a "must", just recommended
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: allsides on September 03, 2013, 04:59 am
I just started using tails and it's really not that hard.
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: m1nuteman on September 03, 2013, 05:14 am
Nice tips.
Can't agree about the Reddit though. As long as you access it through Tor, there's no problem. Especially when posting there. Needless to say it's a good idea to have a separate reddit account for that purpose.
I dissagree because we should also be protecting SR from the clearnet as much as possible. If you think about it no one will be able to attack SR if they think it either doesnt exist or taken down. As much as I love Reddit we should be trying to keep SR off there entirely.
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: cbdx_en on September 03, 2013, 05:37 am
nice topic. Thanks OP.
Title: Re: A few tips to help be as safe as possible (also, a warning about media)
Post by: HollaHollaHolla on September 03, 2013, 05:57 am
Not sure I understand the 10. Use anything but tor to access SR. 

I downloaded the torbrowser bundle and thought that using torbrowser was the only way TO access SR safely.?!?!

I believe the OP is mentioning proxies that use tor and lists an example, but I could be wrong.... Either way, using an up-to-date version of the tor bundle with scripts disabled is what you should be doing.