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Support => Feature requests => Topic started by: GUS on March 21, 2013, 10:56 pm
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Scamming is a huge issue with SilkRoad and any anonymous market place. And would be impossible to stamp out.
I think SR should put fighting scamming at the top of their agenda.
An idea I thought would be good, Would be for every time someone finalizes a purchase, they have to fill out a ANONYMOUS form. which may say things like:
Did you receive your package?
Then, when ever you look for vendors, you can see the % of packages received versus Packages lost.
Now the reason normal feed back doesnt reflect this, is because so often buyers wont want to burn their bridges with Vendors so they will give them 5/5. Also vendors will say I'll give you 50% back if you mark me 5/5 ect ect ect.. Even tho they may have scammed them completely, the buyer is just happy to get something back.
I would really like to see a system where you could see an accurate % of the successful delivery versus non-deliverers.
I don't think its sensitive information, its just a % not a total number.
The stat should be updated weekly to preserve anonymity
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you can still say things like the fact that the package never showed up while giving a 5/5 feedback, you can also come here on the forums and write up a review, even if its from a username different to your road username :) the system your referring to is already kind of in place as well, as us vendors cannot see who wrote which review/feedback, only make educated guesses
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^ of course. and i do all those things.
but trolling thru feedback and looking at reviews is hardly a good indication. especially if the vendor is sending out 500 packages a week
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^ of course. and i do all those things.
but trolling thru feedback and looking at reviews is hardly a good indication. especially if the vendor is sending out 500 packages a week
GUS, I just posted on the other thread, but Atlantis Market is going to implement that statistic. Either SR will step up or they will lose customers to Atlantis Market ( [CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion ).
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Totally agree that scamming should be top of the list for SR but I have a different point of view. I'm a seller and have just had a 1/5 feedback claiming their item never turned up. Now I send everything recorded and if buyers want to take a risk on non-recorded delivery it's up to them but they must FE. I'd rather send everything recorded but I get that some people don't want that.
So here's the rub, it must have been a recorded item because no FE. I got no message saying it didn't arrive because I simply could have sent them tracking or resent. My guess is a rival vendor doesn't like me taking their customers and has decided to take it into his own hands.
Now what the fuck can I do about that? If it happens again I'll have to stop accepting order from anyone with low stats and that sucks for new buyers
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A simple resolution would be to actually track and save how many get through to how many don't plus there should be a 3 marks out strike system in place also for buyers who don't say shit get doopt and still give 5/5 and vendors the same a 3 mark or strike and out somto speak or it could be 3 strikes n put on a watch list and if 1 more thing occurs then your gone so if it's a vendor they lose their whole 750 deposit and buyers lose half in their account this would soon buck up people scammings ideas plus stop vendors selling shit instead of the real thing too cos I'm positively sure that certain vendors on here have been reported countless times but are still able to function with immunity despite over 100 people saying their scsmmers oh well if something like this don't get implemented soon it's just gonna carry on as is a scammers paradise THE END. hope somethings done about scammers selling shit and not sending parcels too ie selective scamming cheers all this was just my opinion but I've got more proper ideas to actually catch the culprits in action but will anyone contact me for my ideas I guess not but I hope they do.....
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PS. Nice one GUS for bringing this topic to light I'm totally sick and tired of it too cheers to you GUS....
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GUS
The intentions of your idea are all well and good but it would be bad for business, vendors would stop shipping to certain parts of the world like AUS and Russia because so many packages go missing there and it would be hurting their stats. That alone makes me as a Vendor feel this would be a not so successful idea.
It also leaves a lot of room for buyers to extort vendors for freebies/extras as well
RS
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I don't honestly think no good idea would be bad for business it would only make SR a better place and stop scammers from earning K's each min of every day ok to have a batch checked by SR before srnt out by vendor would only be a 1 sample needed affair plus for the scammers have each vendor account at a price of $4000 and have a 3 strike out policy and see if anyone fucks up it'll be nil % ok anyway I'm really thinking of building my own site that sells everything but don't work with btc but hard cash sent to 1 place ie like a bank for vendors seriously this could be done in no time at all literally cos I'd rather use cash instead of btc and I'd rather know the shit I receive has been tested so I know it's mot crap plus I'd rather know I can be on a site and know it's a virtual impossibility to get scammed ok all these things are easily put into play trust me but if you knew you could earn grands ftom these things not being implemented would you want these good ideas to exist I think not cheers all and if I do build a new site I'll let everyone know ok it'll probably be called marses moon ie phoboss