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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: xeergam on June 14, 2012, 12:27 am
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I was just curious since I have the try everything at least once mentality. I am however a casual user of heroin, but I feel like I would try meth and even crack and PCP at some point just to see what it's like. Also, I don't tend to repeat things or at least limit usage(such as with H), this is why I like to just try. So is there anything that, after your experience, you wish you never even did in the first place?
I could have done without MDPV personally.
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Heroin would be on my list of things not try, at least not injected.
Another one would be meth though - it doesnt seem like that much fun considering the bad outcome of addiction.
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Re: Is there any drug you would advise to not even try once?
Duster. Shitty effect. Serious damage to brain. That and fentanyl, or any highly potent & obscure RC's.
I am however a casual user of heroin, but I feel like I would try meth and even crack and PCP at some point just to see what it's lik
I'm also a casual user of heroin, once every couple of months and smoking only no IV. Methamphetamine for me was pretty addicting, but I have it much more under control after a couple years misfortune, now only monthly use. Also smoked crack a couple of times, but it's such a bad comedown - and with meth and d-amp at hand, I never understood the appeal. PCP has a lot of bad press, but people who've done it know it's not all the cannibal stories make it out to be. It's a lot of fun, really - and it's own animal in the family of dissociatives, though not as fun as K, IMO.
I could have done without MDPV personally.
Yeah, definitely. For me the side effects were so bad, but apparently a lot of people still like it and are willing to buy it. The first week of regular PV use was amazing but it quickly descended into paranoid hell. Wish I never went that route and stuck to my expensive MA.
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Don't have an interest in trying Duster or Fentanyl honestly, so I guess that's good. But yea, I don't inject H either, I have, but never again. And yes, MDPV does NOT have good side effects....
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I have plenty I wouldn't touch with a barge pole -
Smack
Crack
Meth
PCP
MDPV (ever again....ever)
DMT
Fentanyl
Any opiates tbh unless it's medical
The hardcore arylcychlohexamines
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Definitely not poppers, because we all know what comes after those ;)
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Definitely not poppers, because we all know what comes after those ;)
a head that looks like a beetroot !
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I have plenty I wouldn't touch with a barge pole -
Smack
Crack
Meth
PCP
MDPV (ever again....ever)
DMT
Fentanyl
Any opiates tbh unless it's medical
The hardcore arylcychlohexamines
Mind if I ask your reasoning for DMT? One of the most fascinating experiences I've ever had, trying that was.
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I have plenty I wouldn't touch with a barge pole -
Smack
Crack
Meth
PCP
MDPV (ever again....ever)
DMT
Fentanyl
Any opiates tbh unless it's medical
The hardcore arylcychlohexamines
Mind if I ask your reasoning for DMT? One of the most fascinating experiences I've ever had, trying that was.
DMT scares me and I am not overly into the stronger trips either. I don't have the right psyche for it, too many demons.
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Heroin. I honestly cannot understand how anybody can be a casual heroin user. I guess they must not be shooting it. But you've never really experienced heroin unless you shoot it. Not worth it though.
I have experienced shooting it.... Not saying that my life experience with H has been a good one necessarily, I didn't always have the control I do now. I have plenty I wouldn't touch with a barge pole -
Smack
Crack
Meth
PCP
MDPV (ever again....ever)
DMT
Fentanyl
Any opiates tbh unless it's medical
The hardcore arylcychlohexamines
Mind if I ask your reasoning for DMT? One of the most fascinating experiences I've ever had, trying that was.
DMT scares me and I am not overly into the stronger trips either. I don't have the right psyche for it, too many demons.
I would recommend DMT honestly, it's not as big a deal as you think from all that you've read, but yet there is so much to it at the same time.
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I have plenty I wouldn't touch with a barge pole -
Smack
Crack
Meth
PCP
MDPV (ever again....ever)
DMT
Fentanyl
Any opiates tbh unless it's medical
The hardcore arylcychlohexamines
Mind if I ask your reasoning for DMT? One of the most fascinating experiences I've ever had, trying that was.
DMT scares me and I am not overly into the stronger trips either. I don't have the right psyche for it, too many demons.
Totally understandable. Although I will say that the DMT trip seems a lot less... influenced by your mind than other psychedelics - I guess that your demons wouldn't factor into it much, if that makes sense. Its so other worldy that you dont inflence it all that much, in my experience at least. Psychedelics are my thing though, hehe, I have the "try them all" mentality towards them, not so much for stims/I react badly to opiates/other drugs have just never captured my mind like psychs.
One love,
S
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I have plenty I wouldn't touch with a barge pole -
Smack
Crack
Meth
PCP
MDPV (ever again....ever)
DMT
Fentanyl
Any opiates tbh unless it's medical
The hardcore arylcychlohexamines
I don't know why DMT is on this list. Perhaps you've learned that it's a strong drug and just decided to stay away? Yes, DMT is not to be treated lightly, but it is harmless to your brain, not addictive, not possible to overdose if smoked, and best of all, provides you with a lot of food for thought. It is not a party/fun drug, rather an enlightenment/self-reflection drug. I think it's my favorite psychedelic, though I only take it rarely (you get a lot out of each trip).
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I have plenty I wouldn't touch with a barge pole -
Smack
Crack
Meth
PCP
MDPV (ever again....ever)
DMT
Fentanyl
Any opiates tbh unless it's medical
The hardcore arylcychlohexamines
I don't know why DMT is on this list. Perhaps you've learned that it's a strong drug and just decided to stay away? Yes, DMT is not to be treated lightly, but it is harmless to your brain, not addictive, not possible to overdose if smoked, and best of all, provides you with a lot of food for thought. It is not a party/fun drug, rather an enlightenment/self-reflection drug. I think it's my favorite psychedelic, though I only take it rarely (you get a lot out of each trip).
I have a hard time seeing DMT in that same light. I'm really fascinated with the experience but its so ineffable that I have a hard time integrating anything I realize/think on the trip into my normal life. Maybe I just haven't visited hyperspace enough ahaha. I do love that glow you get after coming down though :D Tips on getting more out of the experience?
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I have plenty I wouldn't touch with a barge pole -
Smack
Crack
Meth
PCP
MDPV (ever again....ever)
DMT
Fentanyl
Any opiates tbh unless it's medical
The hardcore arylcychlohexamines
I don't know why DMT is on this list. Perhaps you've learned that it's a strong drug and just decided to stay away? Yes, DMT is not to be treated lightly, but it is harmless to your brain, not addictive, not possible to overdose if smoked, and best of all, provides you with a lot of food for thought. It is not a party/fun drug, rather an enlightenment/self-reflection drug. I think it's my favorite psychedelic, though I only take it rarely (you get a lot out of each trip).
I just don't get on that well with psychedelics mate, they just don't fit my personality as a whole. I don't mind light ones and I try most of the stuff I sell but I don't find them spiritually rewarding or anything like that. Don't get the profundity and a lot of the time they make me feel uncomfortable.
I feel on top of the world when I'm rushing my face of and got some lush basslines spurring me on.
My idea if heaven = Meph + Bing line just as you are coming up off Mandy with this on in the background - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r42JZf9t_3o&feature=plcp
As the rush sets in, Lim is then ready to take on the universe and everything within it. 8)
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Jimsonweed is supposed to be a pretty frightening experience. I started researching it after reading Hunter S. Thompson's "Hey Rube" in which he mentions it. Almost all of the Erowid trip reporters say they wouldn't wish the trip on their worst enemy and felt lucky to still be alive. I am still curious of course tho ;D
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Datura for sure, plus I'd have to say PCP too -- I've just heard so much negative shit, I'd be scared to try it. Otherwise the biggy was always Heroin, but I came to that bridge and crossed it many years ago. For anyone who hasn't I would tell them trying Heroin once is definitely not a great idea.
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Datura for sure, plus I'd have to say PCP too -- I've just heard so much negative shit, I'd be scared to try it. Otherwise the biggy was always Heroin, but I came to that bridge and crossed it many years ago. For anyone who hasn't I would tell them trying Heroin once is definitely not a great idea.
The PCP user's I've known look just like the meth/crack-heads nearby in Phoenix, it isn't a pretty drug based on appearances. :o
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IMO it's hard to say what drugs one should not indulge in. Isn't it a common fact that drugs effect people differently? A lot of people love weed, I don't like it. Some people prefer opiates over stims and vice-versa.
It's hard to say what drug someone shouldn't touch, yeah PCP has its horror stories but some people enjoy it. I prefer stims to depressants.. some people prefer depressants. I know people who have had panic attacks from smoking weed, I also know people who feel more relaxed after smoking a joint. Weed gives some people anxiety, but it also takes away anxiety for some people.
It's personal preference IMO when drugs are concerned. Everyone is going to have a drug that doesn't agree with them. There's a lot of 'BAD' drugs out there because they're considered addictive. Some people can try Meth once, some people try it once and want more and more.
Sorry if I couldn't answer your question, but I'm finding it difficult to find a drug that no one should try once. Obviously if someone has an addictive personality, drugs such as Meth and H should be avoided in order to avoid potential addiction.
Sollem
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IMO it's hard to say what drugs one should not indulge in. Isn't it a common fact that drugs effect people differently? A lot of people love weed, I don't like it. Some people prefer opiates over stims and vice-versa.
It's hard to say what drug someone shouldn't touch, yeah PCP has its horror stories but some people enjoy it. I prefer stims to depressants.. some people prefer depressants. I know people who have had panic attacks from smoking weed, I also know people who feel more relaxed after smoking a joint. Weed gives some people anxiety, but it also takes away anxiety for some people.
It's personal preference IMO when drugs are concerned. Everyone is going to have a drug that doesn't agree with them. There's a lot of 'BAD' drugs out there because they're considered addictive. Some people can try Meth once, some people try it once and want more and more.
Sorry if I couldn't answer you question, but I'm finding it difficult to find a drug that no one should try once. Obviously if someone has an addictive personality, drugs such as Meth and H should be avoided in order to avoid potential addiction.
Sollem
I find the drugs that people are interested in, as well as the ones that they're afraid of, can be the best indicator of a person's personality.
Agreed.
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jenkum
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scopolamine
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I have plenty I wouldn't touch with a barge pole -
Smack
Crack
Meth
PCP
MDPV (ever again....ever)
DMT
Fentanyl
Any opiates tbh unless it's medical
The hardcore arylcychlohexamines
That's pretty close to my list, except I will continue to try DMT which is actually near the top of my list, still trying for a full fledged breakthrough. Fentanyl I've had the patches but I feel like they were used wrong, my friend cut them into strips and it pretty much put me into a coma, afterwards I learned you're supposed to chew them but after that experience I'm not eager to try it again.
And I don't even know what 'arylcychlohexamines' are so little chance of me trying that.
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Heroin. I honestly cannot understand how anybody can be a casual heroin user. I guess they must not be shooting it. But you've never really experienced heroin unless you shoot it. Not worth it though.
It really depends on the user. I've used IV heroin (and pretty much every other opiate around) for years recreationally, and have never even been close to addiction.
But then, I thought I'd try coke, because it had always been on my list, and with SR I was able to get some easily. My preferred ROA is IV, so even though I'd never tried it, I decided to IV the first time. It felt great, but at the same time I didn't like it very much at all. But as I was coming down, I was thinking AT THE SAME TIME, "I fucking hate this shit" and "Damn! I've got to get me more of this". So now coke is on my list of no-no drugs because I felt extremely compelled to take more DESPITE the fact I didn't even like it.
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I have plenty I wouldn't touch with a barge pole -
Smack
Crack
Meth
PCP
MDPV (ever again....ever)
DMT
Fentanyl
Any opiates tbh unless it's medical
The hardcore arylcychlohexamines
That's pretty close to my list, except I will continue to try DMT which is actually near the top of my list, still trying for a full fledged breakthrough. Fentanyl I've had the patches but I feel like they were used wrong, my friend cut them into strips and it pretty much put me into a coma, afterwards I learned you're supposed to chew them but after that experience I'm not eager to try it again.
And I don't even know what 'arylcychlohexamines' are so little chance of me trying that.
Haha the arylchychlohexamines are the family of drugs that includes Ket, MXE, PCP, PCE, Tiletamine, 4-MEO-PCP, 3-MEO-PCP etc.
Out of them I do K but I wouldn't want to bother with the others, they don't appeal to me. I tried MXE and while I see why people would like it I prefer K.
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K + Drone is the way forward man! I love K!
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There were some kids around here dipping cigarettes in embalming fluid awhile back.
LOL..fuck me sideways...death wish much?
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I have plenty I wouldn't touch with a barge pole -
Smack
Crack
Meth
PCP
MDPV (ever again....ever)
DMT
Fentanyl
Any opiates tbh unless it's medical
The hardcore arylcychlohexamines
I don't know why DMT is on this list. Perhaps you've learned that it's a strong drug and just decided to stay away? Yes, DMT is not to be treated lightly, but it is harmless to your brain, not addictive, not possible to overdose if smoked, and best of all, provides you with a lot of food for thought. It is not a party/fun drug, rather an enlightenment/self-reflection drug. I think it's my favorite psychedelic, though I only take it rarely (you get a lot out of each trip).
I just don't get on that well with psychedelics mate, they just don't fit my personality as a whole. I don't mind light ones and I try most of the stuff I sell but I don't find them spiritually rewarding or anything like that. Don't get the profundity and a lot of the time they make me feel uncomfortable.
I feel on top of the world when I'm rushing my face of and got some lush basslines spurring me on.
My idea if heaven = Meph + Bing line just as you are coming up off Mandy with this on in the background - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r42JZf9t_3o&feature=plcp
As the rush sets in, Lim is then ready to take on the universe and everything within it. 8)
Ha, you're a man after my own heart Lim ;-) Heaven indeedy
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There were some kids around here dipping cigarettes in embalming fluid awhile back.
Was that the thing where they did it because PCP is also called embalming fluid or is that an urban myth?
I am nervous around anything has will have physologically addicting effect on me, the psychedelics may screw my brain chemistry but afterwards it goes back to normal. I have experimented with opiates (dihydrocodeine and dihydromorphine) but found them entirely too pleasant.
I'm not a fan of stimulants and after a pretty awful experience on BZP a few years back Im not sure I'll ever really explore them.
But the most impartant tip here is Choloroform! Dear fucking god! it was great while it lasted, and its cheap as hell (yes yes its carcenogenic, so are ciggies! whats your point) but the next morning I spent 2 hours throwing my guts up and writhing in abdominal agony. My brother who did it with me had a great time and went out happy as a lark! So just figure out wether the risk of a bad reaction is worth it. Its not a patch of Diethyl Ether though....god I love that stuff....Devil Ether...
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Volatile solvents, gases, CFCs/FC propellants.
(Nitrites are separate category.)
Most others it's a matter of knowing supplier/source and dosing and having some common sense, but volatiles, etc. - no.
I guess if I just had to try toluene in my 80s or something, why not, but otherwise I just can't find any way the risk:benefit works out. I know most of the info is on chronic use, but I don't see them having enough benefit for single use.
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Off-limits:
Datura
Propellents/Solvents
IV'ing
Not ready for/Interested in:
DMT
Salvia
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I'm like you OP, and the only drug I would avoid is datura. I've never done it but from what I've heard the stuff you see on it is pretty horrendous
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Plenty of horrible drugs out there for sure!
One interesting case is 'krokodil', basically crudely synthesized desmorphine with most reactants left in it. Desomorphine is a very potent opioid as is, but the crude synthetic result seems to frequently cause gangrene when injected, leaving users disabled for life.
Somehow i consider it an example of what people are willing to risk to sustain opiate addiction, but i also think about how much better those people would have been off if clean, safe, morphine would have been available to them.
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There were some kids around here dipping cigarettes in embalming fluid awhile back. There's a huge heroin epidemic going on in my area due to lack of opiate painkillers. I didn't care much for Ambien when I took it. 30 mgs didn't knock me out, more of a hypnotic/psychedelic nightmare.
Hmm, formaldehyde, methanol, and other solvents - and you burn it and inhale.
Sounds like kids aint changed
We had gas sniffing, glue sniffing and sniffing of petrol and other shit.
Those kids sound like they need to really just say no to that drug!
Wonder what they call it?
Cigar-dearh?
Embalm?
Deadsmoke
or something silly like 'bozers' or 'bangers' or 'smokeys'.
Kids!
Are they still smoking banana peel out there?
;D
Shame really.
Kids must have no adults to guide them about good drugs.
:'(
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I have plenty I wouldn't touch with a barge pole -
Smack
Crack
Meth
PCP
MDPV (ever again....ever)
DMT
Fentanyl
Any opiates tbh unless it's medical
The hardcore arylcychlohexamines
That's pretty close to my list, except I will continue to try DMT which is actually near the top of my list, still trying for a full fledged breakthrough. Fentanyl I've had the patches but I feel like they were used wrong, my friend cut them into strips and it pretty much put me into a coma, afterwards I learned you're supposed to chew them but after that experience I'm not eager to try it again.
And I don't even know what 'arylcychlohexamines' are so little chance of me trying that.
Haha the arylchychlohexamines are the family of drugs that includes Ket, MXE, PCP, PCE, Tiletamine, 4-MEO-PCP, 3-MEO-PCP etc.
Out of them I do K but I wouldn't want to bother with the others, they don't appeal to me. I tried MXE and while I see why people would like it I prefer K.
Ah, thanks. Yea K and MXE I enjoy out of that list, any PCP I won't mess with. Out of all drugs, PCP probably scares me the most, more than crack or meth. I've been told about how great it is but that's also coming from the same group of friends that dodge child support to support their meth habit. I've never seen anyone do anything insane on it other than one guy chewing pieces of his own lip off, but they always seem incredibly uncomfortable on it.
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I will never, ever, take MDPV again.
Apart from that pretty much anything goes.
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I stay away from all Opioids, all sitmulants unless its MDMA and that a 3-4 times a year thing.
I do not do any drugs that I am aware that change the brain's reward system.
I don't do psychedelics if I feel that it wont leave me better off and I control my dissociative use as I feel that could be potential addictive and harmful.
Other than that at this point in my life I would try any new psychedelic with gaps between usages and smoke as much weed as I can and treat myself with some disassociates.
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Oh yeah fuck Krokodil right in it's dirty fucked up ass. That shit is fucked up BEYOND all recognition. The reason why it's called Krokodil is because it makes your skin scaly like a Crocodile's. Krokodil obviously being the Russian word for crocodile.
One word for a drug that makes your skin like a crocodile's - No.
Also I don't know why people find K addictive. I mean obviously it is, not denying that, I just mean that I don't find it addictive or compulsive at all.
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K is like the ultimately escape drug. I see it addictive in the same way as opiates are - just not the same intensity. It numbs you. You feel no pain. It removes your emotions. You're put in a state of bliss.
The only drugs I absolutely won't do are those inhalants and natural delirients.
And yeah desomorphine as a pure chemical is about as dangerous as morphine, hydrocodone, etc. The shit that those russians put in their veins is absolutely disgusting. There's probably a ton of residue solvents in there along with bits of the starting material. :S
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Oh yeah fuck Krokodil right in it's dirty fucked up ass. That shit is fucked up BEYOND all recognition. The reason why it's called Krokodil is because it makes your skin scaly like a Crocodile's. Krokodil obviously being the Russian word for crocodile.
One word for a drug that makes your skin like a crocodile's - No.
Also I don't know why people find K addictive. I mean obviously it is, not denying that, I just mean that I don't find it addictive or compulsive at all.
Lol, I didn't even think of Krokodil . Fuck no.... You see that girl with her body deteriorated? You could see her bones and shit, yet she was still alive. You must want to die if you do something like that.
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Things not to try even once? Crystal meth, doing other amphetamines like Ritalin, or adderall, i highly suggest to try those. Much cleaner high, come down is alot easier to deal with, not to mention i personally feel more focused and energized on Adderall than i do on meth.
Other than that, i wouldn't try Salvia. Fuck that shit lol, i get seriously fucking itchy when i come down off saliva with my friends, its more annoying than fun.
But as i haven't tried every drug out there, those are the only 2 i could reccomend to stay away from.
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maybe heroin. It's just so damaging.
NM
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Wouldn't touch petrol or paint or any of those. Also what was that drug that heaps of russians were injecting that made there arms rot away so they only had bones? that's another one I wouldn't go near
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Krokodil
Nothing out there tops it
Look at these pictures of hard addicts
http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/seriously-dont-use-krokodil
Seriously fucked up shit, when HEROIN is the best route, fuck what ever the other choice is
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I was just curious since I have the try everything at least once mentality. I am however a casual user of heroin, but I feel like I would try meth and even crack and PCP at some point just to see what it's like. Also, I don't tend to repeat things or at least limit usage(such as with H), this is why I like to just try. So is there anything that, after your experience, you wish you never even did in the first place?
I could have done without MDPV personally.
I remember the day. It was years years ago. I took one 5mg Percocet and I was hooked. It wasn't Heroin, Cocaine, Crack, or anything like that. Good old tiny little white pill Percocet. It got my high and such a pleasurable feeling came over me for hours. That's when it all started. So, my recommendation is don't try anything!
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Yea i have read a few stories about drugs in Russia that are completely horrific, there was one called the 6 monther or something and it was the case that 6 months after starting it you died, charcoal black skin by the end. I think it was a prescription drug as well. A lone father lost his two sons and daughter to it (his daughter was at university at the time or recently finished).
I hadn't read about korkodil before but that is horrific, truely.
Anyway i reckon the drugs i would leave alone are meth, heroin and coke (it just doesn't really appeal to me). The only situation i could see me doing meth or heroin would be in the 'you have 3 months to live' situation. But even then i don't know
Every report i read says that delusionaires (if thats the right term) are pretty fucked up. Sounds like no one (well very very few) ever does them more than once. However i don't know if i would go as far as to say i would never try them, i do find the idea really fascinating, but the horror stories are just too overwhelming i think.
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Whats the MDPV story Lim?? I had a pretty mental experience on it too.... Bit too hard core! I smoked the fucker too!
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Every report i read says that delusionaires (if thats the right term) are pretty fucked up. Sounds like no one (well very very few) ever does them more than once. However i don't know if i would go as far as to say i would never try them, i do find the idea really fascinating, but the horror stories are just too overwhelming i think.
I think you're referring to Deliriants, correct? Because shit like Datura can really fuck with a person's mind, as it causes delusions rather than hallucinations. Scary shit...:o
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cigarettes. Highly addictive for not too much of a high. Mild anti-depressant and stress relief for significant cancer and lung disease risk? I don't think so.
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It wildly depends - some people like myself just hate hallucinating ;)
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Piperazines.... dropped 3 bad x pills and felt something going wrong in my kidney region.. Never again did i ever pop a local x pill... fuck the canadian pill scene.
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Datura
NEVER EVEN CONSIDER IT
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Datura
NEVER EVEN CONSIDER IT
Smoking Datura is awesome, it's an intense euphoric, wouldn't advise eating it though.
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Datura
NEVER EVEN CONSIDER IT
Smoking Datura is awesome, it's an intense euphoric, wouldn't advise eating it though.
Mate fuck right off, Datura is POISON
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I think also cocaine since it is really a useless drug. Psychedelics are much more valuable.
NM
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Very subjective. I'll say anything that puts yourself or others at risk. :P
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Very subjective. I'll say anything that puts yourself or others at risk. :P
Yep.
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I stay away from all Opioids, all sitmulants unless its MDMA and that a 3-4 times a year thing.
I do not do any drugs that I am aware that change the brain's reward system.
I don't do psychedelics if I feel that it wont leave me better off and I control my dissociative use as I feel that could be potential addictive and harmful.
Other than that at this point in my life I would try any new psychedelic with gaps between usages and smoke as much weed as I can and treat myself with some disassociates.
Wow, you're so fucking cool and so damn self-disciplined.
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Just to clarify with Krokodil it is NOT the desmorphine that actually makes you melt, desmorphine is just highly addictive. It's the dirty-as-fuck left over bi-products in the synthesis which is what makes you melt and in particular the red phosphorus (which they mostly get from off the striking board of matchboxes YAAAAY). Most Russian Krok addicts (to be honest, I'd hazard a guess and say all of them) don't clean their shit before they inject it so they aren't just shooting desmorphine, they are shooting a delightful cocktail of desmorphine, red phosphorous and other yummy shit.
Oh and MDPV, fuck that shit up and down. First 1-2 5-10mg lines is fine, anything after that is gunna be fuckin horrible.
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Stay away from Viagra!
I snorted a bit and ended up a hard nosed bastard!
I also smoked it - gave me a stiff neck!
I also syringed some up my ass and went through some hard ass times!
Seems something wrong about a pill that gives you a boner for a few hours. But even if you are unconscious from smoking Gods Own weed - your women can a t least make some use of you!
Ok - a final joke to cheer you up!
What is the difference between a clitoris and the local pub?
Most guys know were the local pub is ;D
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I would NEVER, EVER, smoke cock. :P
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I probably wouldn't seek out krokodil at any point either... Here's a documentary from Vice
http://www.vice.com/vice-news/siberia-krokodil-tears-part-1
They do some really cool shit on that site with intense rogue journalism into some of the most fucked up places on Earth. The CEO of the magazine is the actual guy that gets hammered and rolls the tape. He's done two interviews on Joe Rogan's podcast that were awesome.
I've got a laundry list of dergz I won't do anymore. Like what an earlier poster mentioned before, anything that alters the composition of my brain's natural chemical production post usage I try to avidly avoid, mainly Gov't and Big Pharma drugs.
Also, I usually never seek out anything and kind of let the experience drift towards my path. Usually this comes to fruition at festivals or concerts or the random guest that drops in and we drop out. About once a year do I really take an initiative to just get completely fucking blasted out of no where and for no other reason than just to do it. Like now. The urge rarely comes knocking, but when it does; it kicks the fucking door down. So I would say I'm in the market right now with BTC ready to roll on SR looking for a great deal to come up (hint hint).
I don't smoke weed anymore, have had two friends become different people all together from habitual prescription abuse (One benzo, other opiate), lost a friend to meth and older brother is a raging alcoholic.
I would advise against doing any kind of OTC cheap high like Dramamine. I live in the 417 Meth capital of the U.S. and have to be exposed daily to the effects, soul corruption and decay of good people do to addiction of its use and would advise against that too.
TL;DR
OTC Dextro (Robo, Dramamine)
Inhaling Gasoline/Whip Its/Duster
Meth
Embalming Fluid
Shady designer drugs from non reputable distributions :o
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Datura
NEVER EVEN CONSIDER IT
Unless you're a indigenous shaman.
Neutron Man
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Unless you're a indigenous shaman.
Neutron Man
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That's on my bucket list for sure. I've read most of the Way of the Shaman books from Carlos Castaneda and I am really convinced that getting completely fucking blasted with a legitimate Shaman would be an awesome experience. The first step would be learning his native tongue I guess.
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I would NEVER, EVER, smoke cock. :P
True - I'm actually with you 100%!
And pussy also!
Remember people - sexual organs are not meant to go in a bong. I would be shocked and horrified if I sent of for a quarter of hash and ended up with a severed dick.
Back to serious notes - just had a nightmare with some speed! Ever given up a drug for years - went back to it - then ended up truly fucked?
See the amphetamine forums for my experience. Speed was good speed - everyone loves it - but sometimes your body will send a message to you over certain drugs. For me - I had 4 hours of fantastic times! Then I felt a sweat, actually saw a drop drip on a joint!
Please take GREAT care with speed. I took 50mg (snorted) and was off my face! Then I hit a wall - got ill fast and think my body has said to me that no fucking way is having me on that again!
It was great speed - but almost killed me on 100mg as I dropped a 50mg bomb which took a while as I had eaten a BIG meal before using. Hit me like an express train - a real nightmare and boy am I glad to have got through it. Also I am VERY glad I am a cautious guy with drugs. Many people will have jumped in at the deep end and tried 250mg. Had I took that amount I would have gone the hospital. Even 100mg had me looking like death warmed up.
A lot of UKers will remember the 'good old days' of speed. Actually it was all we had for a stimulant for many years till coke became cheap enough for the average guy or girl.
So if you remember those good old days - remember also that your putting on the years and that does strange things with reactions to substances taken. Some of the speed here is VERY strong! Its on a level with the best amphetamine we used in the day. I cannot recall 50mg of speed ever doing much - the usual dose was 500mg for many. Be warned - you may have coped with that amount back then but now ? Just be VERY careful with the speed here. Two 25 mg lines and a bomb of 50mg really fucked me up. I was ambushed! I swear I am glad to still be here - and for me personally I've had enough speed over the years. The only drug I got addicted to! And I went back for a trip down memory lane which was actually stupid! In a way I am glad I was fucked up - had I enjoyed the entire experience I may have slipped into old habits. Possible - but I doubt it because if your over 30 - recovering from one night of good speed takes a few days before you are bright eyed and bushy tailed.
This is why most older people and a lot of younger people use coke. Take 100mg of coke - no way your going to end up fucked up if its decent coke. Guess I can see why Mrs Red frowns on speed. She has heard the tales of my wild years using amphetamine regular. A 6 month of addiction almost sent me over the top. Best leave the past to the past sometimes. Amphetamine, heroin, coke or anything that you got addicted to in the past - best leave that shit alone!!
Thanks for the laughs.
I'm just off to smoke my testicles. Actually I'm talking balls ;D
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Like others have mentioned, it's extremely subjective since everyone reacts differently to drugs. I would say try anything once but don't make a habit of using any drug you feel that you like too much. If your immediate thought after using a drug is "I have to get more," then don't get more for a couple months or never. For me it's heroin, especially after I started shooting it. It all really comes down to body chemistry and personal preference. For example, i'm a heroin addict but i've done crack(equally as addicting) and stayed away from it for months because I prefer heroin. So yeah there's really no definitive answer. Everything in moderation.
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I smoke crack... in moderation. Lol.
Crack is whack. :P
Haha yeah that does sound fucked up, but you've obviously never tried it(which is good!). Just saying that, without an addictive personality, you could probably do any drug once or twice or every so often and have no adverse effects on your life because of it. Although most people who end up trying crack probably are addicts...
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Yeah I guess the way i'd define "moderation" is a small amount every few months/couple times per year. That phrase does sound kinda fucked when applied to hard drug use though haha.
And yeah drugs abuse is my only vice I consider to be bad and harmful. Not as bad as some other things I suppose.
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I am going to stay away from IV Heroin while I am "young"
but if I live to be 75+ I'm going to be a hardcore junkie for the rest of my life. I mean why not?
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mescaline maybe???
i dont like research chemicals either
but would prolly try everything once maybe........
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PCP, Heroin ( very close to trying it but the reaction i got from a friend of mine that i never knew did it, almost cried begging me not to try it because of his horrible addiction, which, again, never knew...then 2 others reacted the same telling me horrible stories of people that couldnt kick it) bath salts, the cousins and sisters of MDMA...id just stick with molly because everything i read as a substitute is always like with a disclaimer that says."more speedy...or not as much of the magic as molly" so fuck that
i would say meth too..but i tried it...if your strong willed...its not super addictive as the come down is fucking RIDICULOUS...also ive had scripts of adderal in college..which helped me ace everything...so i guess i was like kinda prepped for it.
im surprised limetless you wouldnt try DMT...i feel its insanely better than lsd and shrooms and also so stable and not dangerous to the body...provided you are emotionally and intellectually stable..which, you very much appear to be.
im also against needle shooting..fuck that. drugs to me should be an easy method...needles is fucking crazy and socially weird.
as for PCP...im weirded out that it is in the same category as Ketamine and MXE...as i have a very close cousin of mine that i grew up with that just COMPLETELY changed as a human being after doing it for like 2-3 years.
It was very emotional for me to see a persons personality change permanently from that drug...i just dont get it. i never seen him do it or anything but he told me here and there and would call me once or twice when he was on it (hysterically crying or just being manic) and from being a big hearted, caring and smart person..he is now a shell...no confidence what so ever, just a spineless, wierdo.
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I don't know why people are so scared by PCP, you take .2 g cut with some lactose and you sniff it, this will give you the effect of a pack of 6 beers.. I have done this for 2 years with many friends and this is pretty fun! In the old days this drug was massively available in my city but i have to say the stuff we can get now is shit compared to what we get 5 years ago. Heroin, meth, and drugs that causes major health issues are the ones i don't want to take!
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dude i was talking about smoked PCP
im really confused how PCP is in the same range as Ketamine and MXE....ever see the movie training day...thats angel dust denzel makes him smokes and he gets wreckedd...
i dont know ...from what i have seen happened to this man, it changed him permanently
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mescaline maybe???
i dont like research chemicals either
but would prolly try everything once maybe........
Wha-Whaaaaaat? Mescaline is wonderful, mate. Out of curiosity, what's your reasoning?
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I dare not dare snort crack or cocaine heard it's possible to damage your sinus membrane the natural barrier of your brain. I heard people who wake up one day discovering a large additional permanent hole in their noses. Those long term snorters can try shining a torch in and look into the mirror.
Also, the right way is chewing coca leaves, it's healthy and the right way to do it. That's how usage of coca originates. 1g of coca leaves contains a mg of cocaine I heard.
I will never take LSD cus it MAY cause permanent damage to your brain. Shrooms and truffles are the way to go.
Do not take large doses of JWH-18 cus it's proven to cause psychosis and body tremors even to 2 years after use. Only take in super controlled doses.
Also, never take Datura seeds or its root for tripping because you might be tripping for the rest of your life! I know people who for example hallucinate a broom as an insect. Then thereafter he would freak out whenever he sees a broom in a dark place, even year later.
Contrary to the other drugs mentioned here, bro is never addicted to any of them though (perhaps he is a chipper). He hasn't touch tobacco for say, ummm, a decade.
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Unless you're a indigenous shaman.
Neutron Man
That's on my bucket list for sure. I've read most of the Way of the Shaman books from Carlos Castaneda and I am really convinced that getting completely fucking blasted with a legitimate Shaman would be an awesome experience. The first step would be learning his native tongue I guess.
Hi^5 mate, Carlos Castaneda is the ultimate Gate Opener. Didn't Don Juan speak Spanish?
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I dare not dare snort crack or cocaine heard it's possible to damage your sinus membrane the natural barrier of your brain. I heard people who wake up one day discovering a large additional permanent hole in their noses. Those long term snorters can try shining a torch in and look into the mirror.
Also, the right way is chewing coca leaves, it's healthy and the right way to do it. That's how usage of coca originates. 1g of coca leaves contains a mg of cocaine I heard.
I will never take LSD cus it MAY cause permanent damage to your brain. Shrooms and truffles are the way to go.
Do not take large doses of JWH-18 cus it's proven to cause psychosis and body tremors even to 2 years after use. Only take in super controlled doses.
Also, never take Datura seeds or its root for tripping because you might be tripping for the rest of your life! I know people who for example hallucinate a broom as an insect. Then thereafter he would freak out whenever he sees a broom in a dark place, even year later.
Contrary to the other drugs mentioned here, bro is never addicted to any of them though (perhaps he is a chipper). He hasn't touch tobacco for say, ummm, a decade.
LSD is just as risky as mushrooms in terms of psychological damage.
Sinus membrane =/= BBB
Plus, coca in your mouth isn't exactly 'healthy'...
just sayin..
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yeah i agree jookie
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I dare not dare snort crack or cocaine heard it's possible to damage your sinus membrane the natural barrier of your brain. I heard people who wake up one day discovering a large additional permanent hole in their noses. Those long term snorters can try shining a torch in and look into the mirror.
Also, the right way is chewing coca leaves, it's healthy and the right way to do it. That's how usage of coca originates. 1g of coca leaves contains a mg of cocaine I heard.
I will never take LSD cus it MAY cause permanent damage to your brain. Shrooms and truffles are the way to go.
Do not take large doses of JWH-18 cus it's proven to cause psychosis and body tremors even to 2 years after use. Only take in super controlled doses.
Also, never take Datura seeds or its root for tripping because you might be tripping for the rest of your life! I know people who for example hallucinate a broom as an insect. Then thereafter he would freak out whenever he sees a broom in a dark place, even year later.
Contrary to the other drugs mentioned here, bro is never addicted to any of them though (perhaps he is a chipper). He hasn't touch tobacco for say, ummm, a decade.
LSD is just as risky as mushrooms in terms of psychological damage.
Sinus membrane =/= BBB
Plus, coca in your mouth isn't exactly 'healthy'...
just sayin..
Lol i told to my dentist once i was doing coke sometimes and he told me this can badly damage your mouth, teeths. This may be true if you do coke each fucking days of the years but if you do this occasionally i'm pretty sure it's safe ;D
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I'm actually extremely cautious about what I'd be willing to use. My personal demons tend to emerge when I'm left alone in my own psychic world, so those drugs that are especially introspective don't appeal to me. I also have an extremely addictive personality, and this worries me even with something as relatively wholesome as cannabis. I'd stay away from anything with a high potential for addiction or serious harm to my mind or body.
It occurs to me that I might be a pussy.
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I'm actually extremely cautious about what I'd be willing to use. My personal demons tend to emerge when I'm left alone in my own psychic world, so those drugs that are especially introspective don't appeal to me. I also have an extremely addictive personality, and this worries me even with something as relatively wholesome as cannabis. I'd stay away from anything with a high potential for addiction or serious harm to my mind or body.
It occurs to me that I might be a pussy.
Nope dude you actually sound really fucking smart and level-headed. I have an addictive personality and my drug use escalated pretty quickly because I didn't give myself any limits(at least ones that I followed in the long run). So yeah, it's better to be safe than sorry if you know you have a high potential for addiction. I knew from the moment I first smoked weed that I liked getting high too much.
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kofetnik..hilarious post
I am exactly like you expect for one thing....i tried meth 2 weeks ago off this site just to know i tried it
i am very disciplined with what i take and always make sure i dont over do anything. but a drug that crazy, i had to just experience it.
ive done that with molly too years ago..and still..i have done it less that 10 times since ive first tried it (8 years ago about)
but snorting meth was incredibly powerful, insane, regretful, and cool to know ive tried it. as i have other drugs (only drug id never try would be heroin pretty much..also no injection of any kind)
i guess in a nut shell im a pussy like you but a curious pussy
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1. scopolamine (not that you'd take it recreational purposes)
2. krokodil (especially the way those Russian's do it)
3. Datura (or any similar devil plant)
4. Jenkem (If it's actually real)
5. Solvents
6. IV
7. Fentanyl (anything once but lets not push that..)
8. 99% of RC's and any unsafe analog (usually also pointless if you have access to SR)
9. MDPV (bad reports)
10. MXE (again) I snorted 200mg and well yeah that night went a bit weird
I'd try crack, meth, heroin once I don't have an addictive personality at all and psychedelics are my thing anyway! :)
Pretty sure I'd try anything else once :) I have a close smart group of friends, not access to a quick supply of drugs to get addicted (I only order small amounts at a time and no hard STREET drugs). I rarely ever do drugs more than once a week and if I do it's our friendly weed. In fact it's usually once every 2-3 weeks.
Just like to point out alcohol especially for the dangers of withdrawl but it's definitely a mental state that makes you an alcoholic I mean who has craved a drink on feeling alone rather than just escaping reality?
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H , or if you do decide to use it , give it huge respect, seriously , i learnt this the hard way last night...
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cigarettes
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I have plenty I wouldn't touch with a barge pole -
Smack
Crack
Meth
PCP
MDPV (ever again....ever)
DMT
Fentanyl
Any opiates tbh unless it's medical
The hardcore arylcychlohexamines
I don't know why DMT is on this list. Perhaps you've learned that it's a strong drug and just decided to stay away? Yes, DMT is not to be treated lightly, but it is harmless to your brain, not addictive, not possible to overdose if smoked, and best of all, provides you with a lot of food for thought. It is not a party/fun drug, rather an enlightenment/self-reflection drug. I think it's my favorite psychedelic, though I only take it rarely (you get a lot out of each trip).
I just don't get on that well with psychedelics mate, they just don't fit my personality as a whole. I don't mind light ones and I try most of the stuff I sell but I don't find them spiritually rewarding or anything like that. Don't get the profundity and a lot of the time they make me feel uncomfortable.
I feel on top of the world when I'm rushing my face of and got some lush basslines spurring me on.
My idea if heaven = Meph + Bing line just as you are coming up off Mandy with this on in the background - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r42JZf9t_3o&feature=plcp
As the rush sets in, Lim is then ready to take on the universe and everything within it. 8)
You don't seem like the kind of guy who would like DMT. It'd freak you out, I bet - though you might love it in retrospect, you'd have a shitty time while it lasted, at least for the first few trips. Then again, I don't know you in person, and if I do I don't know who you are. (Or do I? DUN DUN DUUUUUN)
I love DMT, and I wish everyone would do it at least once - if nothing else, to learn what amazing power the human brain has if you unlock it with the right key - but after seeing a lot of the wrong people take psychedelics with the most varied negative effects, I learned that some personalities just don't go well with them at all (which isn't really a blemish on either the person or the psy - it's just how it is).
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I read a news article that pills are coming out of China full of powdered aborted fetuses. So.. yeah, don't do those.
Sounds delicious to me, almost like a new nootropic to try. ;D
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I wouldnt advice taking molly once.
id recommend to take it numerous time
:) tits
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I would say crack just because if you buy a 50 to try it by the end of the night you will end up spending a lot more, but as far as long term addiction I don't think it is that bad.
Heroin just depend in my opinion, because when snorting it I don't think it is really different than pill opiates, and in fact snorting oxy's or opanas are better, but when you shoot it up it is game over usually, and you will want to keep doing it while being tricked it isn't addicting until you start building a tolerance and getting withdraws which doesn't happen immediately fooling you thinking it isn't as addicting as what everyone makes it out to be. I was one of those people who were fooled and spent 3 years doing shit I never should of done and waking up every day with no other ambition besides getting high.
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I would say crack just because if you buy a 50 to try it by the end of the night you will end up spending a lot more, but as far as long term addiction I don't think it is that bad.
Heroin just depend in my opinion, because when snorting it I don't think it is really different than pill opiates, and in fact snorting oxy's or opanas are better, but when you shoot it up it is game over usually, and you will want to keep doing it while being tricked it isn't addicting until you start building a tolerance and getting withdraws which doesn't happen immediately fooling you thinking it isn't as addicting as what everyone makes it out to be. I was one of those people who were fooled and spent 3 years doing shit I never should of done and waking up every day with no other ambition besides getting high.
If you wanted to just try it and not get addicted would you say snorting or smoking is better? IV is out of the question if you don't want to get addicted, in my opinion. :)
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benadryl and other otc's...
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It's not the drug, it's the person taking it. I know I've an addictive, self destructive personality. So now I tend to avoid drugs that can be habit forming; Crack, coke, cannabis, alcohol ect. I already have enough problems with cigarettes and my DOC.
Cracks a good example, one person would try it once and forever be chasing that first high. Someone else could smoke crack several times and not see what all the fuss is about, and move on.
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i meant in doses larger than suggested
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you can add dramamine too
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I've tried many NOT EVEN ONCE drugs like meth and opium, and I haven't so far chased the dragon on any of them.
Cocaine Rat Experiment, guys. It's only the rats with no social support groups that overdose themselves to death. The rats with social contact and families and comfortable straw furniture don't keep injecting themselves, they take a consistent amount each day and don't go over that.
That said, I have some personal NOT EVEN ONCE drugs. DPH for a start. Datura and the other Atropine bushes.
Also, BZ. That is all.
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Salvia.
For one thing, almost EVERYONE, when they come back from a salvia trip says something to the effect of, "I will NEVER do that again."
Second and most importantly I believe it opens a door to demon possession. I don't want to get into any theological arguments here and I'll say that I'm a Christian. I've known multiple dozens of people who have partaken in salvia and after hearing all accounts and really spending time thinking about it, i firmly believe my previous statement. it is called 'the diviner's sage'. If you have any questions about it feel free to ask me here or pm me.
PLEASE don't flame me for this, it is just an opinion like anyone else's, and i feel it's important for people to know. I didn't start a thread about it, i'm just replying to this thread.
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Salvia is fucking horrific. One bong load of 60x had me terrified for a few minutes, almost had a panic attack. You're alone in your mind with your unfiltered thoughts for what seems like an eternity, and you're thankful you came back from it normal again.
Salvia is like a sick twisted demonic version of DMT in my opinion. DMT is my peephole in heaven, while Salvia grips my mind and plunges it straight to the ninth circle of hell. It still seduces me every now and again when I get bored with my life but man do I always regret it, funny how that happens. ???
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CANT WAIT for DMT, ordered a small 200mg...dont know when me and my buddy are gonna rip it off this meth pipe i bought off here...(which is hilarious to look at as i would never smoke meth....snort yes..smoke no)
any recommendations for amounts to puff that bliss??
THANKS!
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CANT WAIT for DMT, ordered a small 200mg...dont know when me and my buddy are gonna rip it off this meth pipe i bought off here...(which is hilarious to look at as i would never smoke meth....snort yes..smoke no)
any recommendations for amounts to puff that bliss??
THANKS!
Take one million 0.00005mg hits in thirty seconds, or if that's too hard for you take one big rip from 50mg. ;)
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NEVER EVER take LSD. If you were planning on taking it, and have ordered some. DON'T eat it. send it to me, and I will dispose of it properly.
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Salvia is like a sick twisted demonic version of DMT in my opinion. DMT is my peephole in heaven, while Salvia grips my mind and plunges it straight to the ninth circle of hell. It still seduces me every now and again when I get bored with my life but man do I always regret it, funny how that happens. ???
To paraphrase what that guy said about Requiem for a Dream:
"If you ever find yourself inexplicably contented with your lot, try some nutmeg in hallucinogenic doses"
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Actually yeah I wouldn't do Salvia and I probably wont smoke puff again either.
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phenazepam, especially eyeballed. bad shit, half life is ridiculous and can make u lose a lot of time and make u do silly things you would never dream of doing normally
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I would with never trying salvia if it weren't so physically harmless. I have never seen anyone enjoy it and quite a few people are totally immune to it. I blew 60 euros on a 40x or 60x extract or something ridiculous. Used the perfect technique etc. but nothing except a weird pulling feeling. My friends went insane.....
It seems that unlike DMT it doesn't incapacitate the user..... I have seen people go absolutely nuts, trashing rooms and hurting themselves and others after smoking salvia. DMT smokers just seem to lie down with a silly grin on their face
Otherwise:
Tobacco - biggest regret of my life. Has done more damage to me than all other illegal drugs combined.
Poppers - they feel like shit! How in holy hell is that recreational?!?!
DXM - same as poppers
Cocaine - wouldn't really tell people not to try it, but I have never met anyone who wasn't disappointed and pissed that their bank account is now empty 8)
And finally....
Any legal highs that have "geranium extract" (methylhexamine) in them. Pretty common in the Netherlands and it is the dirtiest, most evil stimulant I have ever tried. A pill each had me lying in bed desperately trying to keep control while my girlfriend vomited endlessly, eventually vomiting blood.
And it was my birthday.
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Surprised at all the Salvia responses, my brother and his friend really liked it although I haven't been able to try any.
I don't think I would ever do heroin, coke, meth, or really any of the harder drugs. Just not up my alley, I really like psychedelics and high quality cannabis. But I don't know about telling other people to not do them. I guess what I would tell someone is really dependent on the person, now I would never recommend some of the less prominent drugs (at least to the average person) such as MPDV, Fentanyl (and other drugs used to cut other drugs), or deliriants.
Now, if my buddy was a psychonaut I wouldn't feel too bad about recommending a deliriant, or other obscure chemical that may cause the average person to have an unpleasant trip. When I'm recommending or recommending against I make sure to be as objective as possible, like: "Yes, DMT can be quite eye opening. However, some of the trip may be hard to integrate into daily living". Although usually much larger (in length and amount of descriptions) and accompanied by reputable sources.
Edit: I do recommend against synthetic cannabinoids, I only have 1 friend who actually enjoyed that shit and he'd get all spiced up before intramural sports
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One drug that I would strongly suggest no one try without the prior use of some other mind altering substance is reality. After all as they say, "Reality is for those that can't handle drugs". 8)
I've tried almost everything natural and quite a few chemicals. I have never done heroin, but that's not saying I wouldn't. Dissociatives would be something I would shy away from but that is for personal reasons. Depending on your 'sense of adventure' there is nothing I wouldn't consider trying once. After all its not what drug you do but what you do with the drug.
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Salvia is one drug I wish I never tried. It scared the hell out of me and made me really uneasy. After watching my friends do and seeing one of them fall down and knock his tooth out, and another one who sweated so heavily his whole shirt was soaked, I decided never again. They all are afraid of it now also, I don't see how people enjoy it.
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All you Salvia hater should try some DPH.
Now there is a nightmare. And spiders.
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For me it was Ritalin aka Methylphenidate. I got like 30 minutes of a mediocre high that felt like bad coke, and then several hours of anxiety, paranoia, and not being euphoric but being too stimulated to sleep.
That's just me though, so even that I wouldn't really say someone shouldn't try - but don't expect something super recreational out of it, and stick to low oral doses if using it for focus imo :)
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I didn't even know you could take Ritalin recreationally.
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I didn't even know you could take Ritalin recreationally.
when I was in my early teens, I stockpiled ritalin from 5 or 6 of my friends who were prescribed it, but didn't want to take it, then every couple months, I would rail like 250mg a night for days at a time. I had lots of fun with it back then, but looking back....meh
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I didn't even know you could take Ritalin recreationally.
Well I took it in work with a few guys and one uses regular and one guys daughter used for study.
It is not really a party drug as your more just alert than euphoric.
I agree its like a poor coke high, but if you compare it to coke all drugs usually seem 'poor'
By itself its more useful for work.
We smoked hash and bud on it also. Not too bad for me.
One drug most guys will not want to use are hormones that grow a pair of real breasts!
Well no milk there for the little ones but a pair of bamzoomas.
Imagine popping that before a rave and waking up to see your homeboys all lined up to have a titty roll.
So guys, always identify the drug first.
And speed! I*f you need to be naked and have it hanging loose, speed will shrivel it like a babys dick!
That is one thing I do not need.
Not that I care. Fill a pram all the same. And I got imagination, two hands and a tongue.
So hormones that make guys grow tits.
Bad move.
Snorting it and you would be juggling a pair in 15 mins.
Shave them and its like some of the guys, after a few drinks, coke, E, whatever, they might see you in a different light.
;D