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Title: Time until smell permeates vac seal?
Post by: toker420 on April 15, 2012, 04:56 am
How long until the seal breaks enough for a drug dog to smell what's inside?  Anyone???
Title: Re: Time until smell permeates vac seal?
Post by: cuba on April 15, 2012, 04:57 am
doesnt a vaccuum seal "vaccuum" the smell out of it pretty much then make it air tight to the smell wont leave? unless the seal is broken i dont see how the smell would come out randomly, but i could 100% be wrong
Title: Re: Time until smell permeates vac seal?
Post by: mdmamail on April 15, 2012, 05:09 am
I have heard, that after 3 days the smell can permeate through the seal. I don't see how this is possible if you suck all the air out and vac seal it 3x.

I could be wrong of course.
Title: Re: Time until smell permeates vac seal?
Post by: fizzy on April 15, 2012, 05:21 am
doesnt a vaccuum seal "vaccuum" the smell out of it pretty much then make it air tight to the smell wont leave? unless the seal is broken i dont see how the smell would come out randomly, but i could 100% be wrong
It will vary with the drug, the quantity, and the plastic or other materials used. The scent/air diffuses through the layer/s of plastic/foil. It's not an issue of the seal breaking.
If the seal itself just breaks, you are, to use a technical term, fucked.
More substance, more surface area, higher permeability plastic, fewer layers = more rapid escape of scent. The longer the package sits after it's sealed, the more scent escapes.
This assumes that the person who handled the package used impeccable technique and there was no external contamination.

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Title: Re: Time until smell permeates vac seal?
Post by: USd-N-methylamphetamine on April 17, 2012, 03:09 pm
a dog can still smell weed after a triple vac seal, Immediately
when we ship on here we aren't looking to try and fool drug dogs. we want to fool Postal inspectors!
so yeah after a few days in transit some P.I. might smell that herb.
But as far as vacuum sealing for protection against Drug Dog detection. Pretty S.O.L.
but then again in the US they cant just randomly put a dog on the mail so WOO
Title: Re: Time until smell permeates vac seal?
Post by: Delta11 on April 17, 2012, 05:07 pm
a dog can still smell weed after a triple vac seal, Immediately
when we ship on here we aren't looking to try and fool drug dogs. we want to fool Postal inspectors!
so yeah after a few days in transit some P.I. might smell that herb.
But as far as vacuum sealing for protection against Drug Dog detection. Pretty S.O.L.
but then again in the US they cant just randomly put a dog on the mail so WOO
1. A dog CAN'T smell anything through a triple vac seal, they don't have super powers
2. Dogs come in and smell the mail all the time, it's a random check which is why you have to vac seal at least two times to stay safe.

The trick to not getting caught is wiping down all of your vac sealed bags for any residue left over of your product.
Title: Re: Time until smell permeates vac seal?
Post by: USd-N-methylamphetamine on April 17, 2012, 08:39 pm
yeah dogs dont have super powers but there is a difference between vacuum sealed and vapor sealed. either way it doesnt matter to me i will continue to hide the smell from humans. cant beat the dogs
Title: Re: Time until smell permeates vac seal?
Post by: Appa on April 17, 2012, 10:23 pm
It will vary with the drug, the quantity, and the plastic or other materials used. The scent/air diffuses through the layer/s of plastic/foil. It's not an issue of the seal breaking.
If the seal itself just breaks, you are, to use a technical term, fucked.
More substance, more surface area, higher permeability plastic, fewer layers = more rapid escape of scent. The longer the package sits after it's sealed, the more scent escapes.
This assumes that the person who handled the package used impeccable technique and there was no external contamination.

This is exactly right.  Smell molecules can permeate through materials (sometimes even glass!) over a pretty short amount of time.  If vacuum sealing was infinitely effective like some people seem to believe, then vendors wouldn't triple-bag it!  They would just use one bag.  Triple bagging provides three times as much plastic material for the smell molecules to permeate through, theoretically allowing three times as much time in transit.


a dog can still smell weed after a triple vac seal, Immediately
when we ship on here we aren't looking to try and fool drug dogs. we want to fool Postal inspectors!
so yeah after a few days in transit some P.I. might smell that herb.
But as far as vacuum sealing for protection against Drug Dog detection. Pretty S.O.L.
but then again in the US they cant just randomly put a dog on the mail so WOO
1. A dog CAN'T smell anything through a triple vac seal, they don't have super powers
2. Dogs come in and smell the mail all the time, it's a random check which is why you have to vac seal at least two times to stay safe.

The trick to not getting caught is wiping down all of your vac sealed bags for any residue left over of your product.

Yes.  Dogs can't smell a package that isn't releasing smell molecules.  When weed (or whatever) is vacuum-sealed correctly, it takes some time (days) for the smell molecules to permeate through the bag.  Until said molecules can get outside of the actual package and into the nose of the dog (or human), they literally cannot be smelled.


cant beat the dogs

As has been explained, you CAN beat the dogs, if only for a short window of time.
Title: Re: Time until smell permeates vac seal?
Post by: USd-N-methylamphetamine on April 18, 2012, 01:19 am
well i stand corrected. hmm guess ive just been hella lucky. i remember the first time i send weed through the mail to a friend it was just an Oz in a ziplock in a box.
dumb kids.