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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: microRNA on November 07, 2012, 01:34 am
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Anyone here have experiences with different 4-sub tryptamines?
was wondering what your favorite is and how they differ from each other for you personally?
thank you for your input
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This may not count as different, but I have done 4-aco-dmt freebase and 4-aco-dmt furm and i feel that the freebase is stronger at identical doses :D
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4-AcO-DMT is my favorite. In comparison to 4-HO-MET (my second most used 4-tryptamine), the head space is a lot clearer and brings about a wonderful body high I have yet to experience from 4-HO-MET. 4-AcO-DMT's visuals are a lot more sharper in my experience as well with distinct patterning, whereas 4-HO-MET seems to be more bold and more prominent tracing. The one thing 4-HO-MET has over AcO is the euphoria which is indescribable, almost MDMA-like. A friend of mine has found it to be very dysphoric, however, which always seemed odd to me.
I have always found 4-tryptamines to be some of the most diverse of all psychedelics in regards to how they affect each individual. Reports are so varied that it's hard to pinpoint exactly what their effects are truly like. Perhaps this is due to the niche appeal and lack of quantitative data, but LSD, mushrooms, 2C-X, and so forth seem to be much more consistent in effects. This adds to the appeal to me, personally.
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...4-Ho-Dipt.......i was lucky to get this some months, before it was banned......Its an awesome substance thats very similar to psillicybin.......Turned several friends and different people on to it ,they all loved ...and now its all gone ...but i still gots the vial....very similar ..but different to mushrooms....
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thank you for your time giving your experiences
i am leaning heavily towards 4-aco-dmt - considering the combo with allylescaline actually since its suppose to enhance each in a way not attainable alone
and the freebase of any chem will be more potent comparing equivalent mass because a portion of the molecular weight is composed of the salt while the freebase is just the active molecule - no extra mass of the salt atoms. although i think the salt is considered more stable
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thank you for your time giving your experiences
i am leaning heavily towards 4-aco-dmt - considering the combo with allylescaline actually since its suppose to enhance each in a way not attainable alone
and the freebase of any chem will be more potent comparing equivalent mass because a portion of the molecular weight is composed of the salt while the freebase is just the active molecule - no extra mass of the salt atoms. although i think the salt is considered more stable
I AM ALWAYS LEARNING FROM YOU MICRORNA
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Does anyone have experience with 4-sub-DET vs 4-sub-DMT... does one have less of the "dark" aspect or one with less of a "stimulating" effect?
i have many trip reports but cant really find too much where people are actually comparing the two. im trying to find the one with the least body load/relaxing while still strong visuals and introspection of course
also see 4-x-MIPT and 4-x-DALT that i was wondering if anyone prefer them over 4-sub-DMT??
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glad to hear it zulu :) i love sharing knowledge, one reason this community is amazing
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4-AcO all day every day
I favourite of my mine and various colleagues. Perfect for walking into the bush or onto a deserted beach, and exploring the mysteries of oneself :)
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that doesnt mean anything. thats not a tryptamine... thats the group in 4-position, which includes hydroxyl (OH), acetyl (AcO) or phosphate (PO)- basically they are converted to the hydroxyl in the body to be active (at least phosphate, acetyl might have some activity on its own before being hydrolyzed)... any of the 4-sub tryptamines can be 4-aco so that comment has no significance
the question is which of the tryptamines is your favorite... DMT, DET, MiPT, DALT
again, does anyone have experience with 4-x-DALT possibly
can anyone compare 4-x-DMT to 4-x-DET please? thank you
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4-aco-dmt was quite sedating for me