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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: RedDwarf2 on November 05, 2012, 07:22 pm

Title: Burnt Amphetamine 'Speed' Paste
Post by: RedDwarf2 on November 05, 2012, 07:22 pm
Got some speed paste and tried to dry it out. Put it on top of a lamp shade and the heat must have been too high and a cretain part of it has burned, sort of like toast would. It has been taken off the heat and is still drying out although at a lower temperature.

Is this oxidised/burnt speed still okay for consumption or does the chemical make up change enough to make it more dangerous?
Title: Re: Burnt Amphetamine 'Speed' Paste
Post by: Pixelbrick on November 06, 2012, 12:10 am
I'd swerve the burnt bits.

The only info i could find was a random post on Bluelight where someone was asking the same thing about 4-fluroamphetamine

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Depends on how the product is oxidised.

Normally i would expect (under metabolic conditions like MAO, or nasty environments) amphetamines to "degrade" to the ketones. (i.e. phenyl-2-propanone for amp) As far as I know only tertiary amines like DMT have a tendency to form amine oxides.

Either way I would expect oxidisation products to be 1. messy and 2. inactive centrally, again see DMT n-oxide.

Much as I like a bit of speed now & then i'd be worred about whatever horrendous filth that was left in the paste after the synth being oxidised
as well.