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Title: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: zenvoboy on December 08, 2012, 08:44 pm
Okay, need some opinions here!

On Thursday night, me and a friend tried some of the MDMA that I recently bought from a seller on SR with a GREAT record. But I was disappointed with the results. Firstly, let me just say:

I am not accusing this vendor of any wrongdoing!! I just need to clear some questions up.
(I will state the vendors username if asked, but I didn't want to just yet, because this guy has a brilliant track record and I'm slightly confused as to whether the issue is the product, or me).

A little background to my experience:

I had only taken MDMA once before, at a festival back in July. My friend was trying it for the first time; so no tolerance issues for either of us.
I'm not certain how much I took at the festival (could have been anywhere from 400-700mg), and I'm not certain how strong the product was (I figured very weak based on it taking that many milligrams for me to feel the way I felt after doing research I did when I got home), but basically, I felt like I was on another level. Absolute inner-peace, confidence, talkativeness, zero negative thoughts, body buzzing... and also eye wiggles, misseeing some things (thinking strangers were people I know, until I looked at their face again, and thinking people had accidentally SMASHED their elbows into my girlfriend-at-the-times face a few times while walking past them at night), foggy memory of the roll. But none of those slightly negative aspects mattered because the positives were SIMPLY INCREDIBLE. I just had an amazing time.

Since then, I've been doing lots of research, learning about dosages etc. After hearing lots of people state roughly 120-125mg being the "sweet spot"... I concluded that the molly I had at the festival must've been weak.

So the other night, me and my friend had 150mg + 50mg (1 hour after the first bomb) of the molly I bought on here.

I could feel it, but it was NO WAY close to being anywhere near the buzz that I felt earlier in the year, and I know my friend wasn't either (he was enjoying himself, but if he had experienced what I felt at that festival, he would've been MIND BLOWN like I was, and wouldn't have stopped talking about it).
I didn't feel much different than if I'd had a few pints of alcohol. I still had lots of negative thoughts (i.e. "This is a shame... Kinda ruined the night... I was expecting so much more :( ")... and had to *try* and enjoy myself more, rather than being transported to another world of bliss and ecstasy where you can't do anything else other than have another one of the greatest nights of your life. No eye wiggles. No misseeing things. No extra sweating. Perfect memory of the whole night.

So from this, I can think of a few conclusions. Which do you think is the case?

1) The product I was sold is indeed perfectly fine, and I did in fact have *a lot* of MDMA at the festival earlier in the year, and hence didn't reach that same level on only 200mg.
   --- Most people who are already happy and confident in their day to day lives usually only need a small amount to make them feel one step better (hence 125mg "sweet spot") - whereas I am shy and have plenty of 'low' days in my normal life, and hence desire to be transported to a totally new world of ecstasy by taking more than most people do.

2) The product I was sold is weak. 200mg should have *easily* transported me and my friend to that same level that you described from earlier in the year.

I am 5ft 10inches, 140 pounds. My friend is a little over 6ft, probably 160 pounds.

I'm just a bit confused about this situation and need some input from more experienced MDMA users. After doing all this research, I started getting annoyed with "that guy" who says "I always take 300mg+ at a time! I don't feel it otherwise" - and everybody else would say "I would seriously recommend lowering the amount you take. Either your product is weak, or you are doing some real damage to yourself. I would be wrecked if I had more than 250mg!".
Is my product weak, or am I actually one of "those guys"?? ...I'd rather just get drunk than what I felt from 200mg of my product, it really wasn't that special!  :o Especially for something that could get me in serious trouble just for carrying in my pocket.

So if you've read all of that, thank you. Would be so kind as to give me your opinion on this situation?  :)
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: theupsman1 on December 08, 2012, 09:58 pm
 Tough question to answer really.. Although i'd say 150mg is a reasonable dose for a second timer. Not over the top but you should definitely be where you want to be. Are there any other drugs either of you were on that may shed some light? Even perscription meds anything atall even vitamin pills?
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: zenvoboy on December 08, 2012, 10:14 pm
Nope, neither of us are on any kind of prescription drugs/vitamins etc. We hadn't consumed any alcohol that day either (in fact, probably not that week).

I should also say, it was my first purchase on SR. That's one of the reasons I'm raising the question "Was I given a weak product by a trusted vendor?" - maybe I need to earn my stars, although this vendors track record suggests they provide nothing but great service to all customers.

I honestly cannot find a single bad word about this vendor, and it just doesn't seem likely I'm the one and only person to be given a weak product.

Maybe then, I am actually one of "those guys" who take "too much" MDMA. Obviously I've only tried it twice, but with 200mg the 2nd time... It just didn't seem worth it to me - for the price it is and the risk involved in obtaining & carrying it. I'd rather just take "too much" on a less regular basis and have a truly magical, out-of-this-world time, and just accept the risk of damage I might be doing to my brain like an irresponsible thrill seeker  ;D
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: theupsman1 on December 08, 2012, 10:29 pm
I'm pretty new round here myself...not had any trouble getting good stuff off vendors without having any stripes.
Some individuals do need really large amounts of mdma to get the same effect as others, but I wouldnt do anything silly like up your dosage  yet. I would try another vendor/batch and see how you get on at the same dosage to be honest there's no straight forward answer to this i'm afraid...
Although maybe this time round have enough with you so if your not where you want to be after an hour you can re dose.
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: tango on December 09, 2012, 03:02 am
who was the vendor?

consider it a review of their product... so just let people know.


mdma also depends on the atmosphere and environment you are in, if you are sitting there watching tv, dont expect it to do much for ya.
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: zenvoboy on December 09, 2012, 04:34 am
The vendor was CFD247.
(Again, this is not an accusation).

Excellent reputation and endless positive feedback, so my product being weak just doesn't seem likely. But then how could I have been left so disappointed with 200mg? I have no tolerance, nor does my friend... I'm not a huge guy, neither is my friend... 200mg of it honestly didn't feel much different to being a little bit drunk. It was different to alcohol of course, but it wasn't that mind-blowing "next level" that I experienced the first time, not even close. (Although, who knows, maybe another 50mg would've taken me there...)

And I know people say you never reach the magic of the first time again, or that you lose the magic, but it was only my second time, and in terms of not quite reaching that magic... this was miles away, not "not quite".

I remember the first time I tried it, I was doing one bomb (of ?mg...didn't measure them with scales) every 45-60 minutes until I *knew* I was rolling... and along the way, my girlfriend asked me "can you feel it yet?" - and I said "...I just feel drunk". So I was definitely in the process of reaching that next level the other night, I just needed more. I was just surprised 200mg wasn't enough.

I was at a rave (well.. a Skrillex show, lol) - so the environment was perfect for what I wanted.

I guess the only way I can find out what the issue is, is from gaining experience. I'll have to try stuff from different sources etc.

I could just be somebody who likes to be taken to another dimension more than most people; feel like a whole new person. I know that with alcohol, if I'm gonna get drunk with mates, I do like to get very drunk.

But then, what about you guys? Have you been taken to that "next dimension", complete with eye wiggles, euphoria, and generally mind-blowing awesomeness, from as little as 125mg?
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: calicojak on December 10, 2012, 01:52 am
Well me and my gf rolled extremely hard lastnight off of 200mg of Dutchaanbods mdma. Awesome fucking roll!! I've rolled maybe 25 times give or take, and lastnights roll would be in my top 3 all time rolls. Awesome euphoria the whole 9...no bad comedown, felt pretty good today. Only bad thing is I woke up with the right side of my hip in pain( fucked my girl 5 times lastnight like a wild man, but couldn't cum lol) not really a bad thing I guess lol. Made up for it when she got home from work today   ;D
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: duckduckgoose on December 10, 2012, 02:13 am
I'm in a similar boat as you.  My first SR order was from a very trusted vendor (not yours) and the MDMA passed the reagent test with flying colors.  I have not taken MDMA proper in some time (perhaps never, only 2-3 pills 7+ years ago), however I have been taking methylone about once a month for the past year and a half.  My methylone dosage has landed at 225mg + 110mg booster 1hr later.  I'm pretty happy with methylone but really want to experience MDMA and MDA as well.

Anyway, i was excited but cautious to try MDMA, so I did 115mg (I'm over 6 feet, 160lbs - no food for the previous 5 hours, except a few TUMS).  I felt very little for the first hour, I'd say the biggest sign was that my skin felt warm (a nice kind of warm) and my eye were half-dilated.  I boosted 55mg, and then 30 mins later another 50mg.  The effects didn't really increase all that much.  The overall feeling was MUCH tamer than the methylone, which I realize it should be the exact opposite.

I'm going to try 165mg next as a first dose, and I'm torn on whether that's too much or too little (I don't think it'll hurt me, but has the potential to be overwhelming based on everything I've read here).

zenvoboy, did you also have a warm flushed skin feeling?  That was the most noticeable effect, so I'm curious if that is a sign of possible low-dosage.  Anyone else have recommendations for redosing in case the 160mg doesn't hit me that hard?
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: zenvoboy on December 10, 2012, 02:49 am
Yeah my skin did feel warm, maybe a bit tingly. But definitely not enough for me to say I'm buzzing.

I was a little bit more talkative, and also felt a bit of anxiety (which was a sign of 'coming up' - but that was only because I couldn't stop thinking "I don't think I've brought enough with me!")... which is all just classic signs of MDMA (from what I've heard), but like I said, even after having taken 200mg, me and my friend were definitely not "out of this world", which based on all that I've read about the drug, I was expecting to be; or at least to be closer to "that level" than I was.

My friend said it felt really nice for him when he moved his limbs etc. - and kept rolling/bobbing his head on the walk home from the show. I didn't really feel that myself, so I'm not sure in what way he meant it felt good. But it was his first time - he doesn't have any other "level" to compare to. And I know what he's like - he's the type of person that would probably be quite easily fooled by a placebo, haha. But I do also know that, if he did reach that "level" like I did in July... he would've been utterly mind-blown, not just saying "Yeah man I had a really good night".
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: blamehoffmann on December 10, 2012, 07:09 am
I posted this earlier today: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=92622.0

Sounds fairly similar to your experience.
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: Orinoko Flow on December 10, 2012, 09:19 pm
Hi zenvoboy , i received an order last week off CFD and can confirm its good stuff. It definately hit the spot.  Not sure what happened mate...
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: zenvoboy on December 11, 2012, 07:25 am
It's a strange situation really isn't it. The more I think about it, the more I want to know what the issue is, but the more I realise the only way I will find that out is by experience. Different vendors/batches, different doses.

Next time I'll make sure to bring more with me. Maybe drop a higher dose bomb straight away, and then keep hold of a few small dose bombs so I can choose how many I want to swallow or not from then on.

I think I'll go to a rave on new years eve. It had better bloody work this time though... I'll be going on my own!

...and I've never been to a one night, indoor, actual RAVE before (only a 2 day EDM festival full of artists I love, and a Skrillex gig, 1.5 hour DJ set). I'm a pretty shy/socially awkward guy too... so I'm gonna need the MDMA to kick in this time! Looking forward to it though. I'll have a wicked night even by myself (if I reach "that level" again).
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: calicojak on December 11, 2012, 02:57 pm
It's a strange situation really isn't it. The more I think about it, the more I want to know what the issue is, but the more I realise the only way I will find that out is by experience. Different vendors/batches, different doses.

Next time I'll make sure to bring more with me. Maybe drop a higher dose bomb straight away, and then keep hold of a few small dose bombs so I can choose how many I want to swallow or not from then on.

I think I'll go to a rave on new years eve. It had better bloody work this time though... I'll be going on my own!

...and I've never been to a one night, indoor, actual RAVE before (only a 2 day EDM festival full of artists I love, and a Skrillex gig, 1.5 hour DJ set). I'm a pretty shy/socially awkward guy too... so I'm gonna need the MDMA to kick in this time! Looking forward to it though. I'll have a wicked night even by myself (if I reach "that level" again).
Make sure to not consume any alcohol, weed, vitamins, pretty much only a nice healthy light meal before your roll. I have a feeling you will be rolling balls for New Years! Good luck my friend!
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: zenvoboy on December 12, 2012, 06:40 am
It's a strange situation really isn't it. The more I think about it, the more I want to know what the issue is, but the more I realise the only way I will find that out is by experience. Different vendors/batches, different doses.

Next time I'll make sure to bring more with me. Maybe drop a higher dose bomb straight away, and then keep hold of a few small dose bombs so I can choose how many I want to swallow or not from then on.

I think I'll go to a rave on new years eve. It had better bloody work this time though... I'll be going on my own!

...and I've never been to a one night, indoor, actual RAVE before (only a 2 day EDM festival full of artists I love, and a Skrillex gig, 1.5 hour DJ set). I'm a pretty shy/socially awkward guy too... so I'm gonna need the MDMA to kick in this time! Looking forward to it though. I'll have a wicked night even by myself (if I reach "that level" again).
Make sure to not consume any alcohol, weed, vitamins, pretty much only a nice healthy light meal before your roll. I have a feeling you will be rolling balls for New Years! Good luck my friend!

I've got about 570mg left, so I agree, I think I will be rolling balls too ;D (I highly doubt I'll be needing even half of that, but it's nice knowing it's all there this time just in case). And nope, no alcohol/weed etc.

And thank you :) Can't wait. Just gotta hope my ex-gf and all her mates don't bump into me - I don't think she'd be too happy to see me there, haha. I'll probably seem like a right weirdo being there on my own... not that I'll care if I'm rolling harder than a bowling ball :)

I'll post back here to say how it went (with the MDMA, not my ex... lol)
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: bkth on December 12, 2012, 10:47 am
I think you just took a heroic dose your first time and had the night of your life, it was probably good quality mdma like you have got off CFD247. I haven't tried the product myself but I purchased for friends recently and they were happy.

When I do md I take 150mg then another 100 as soon as I feel the first lot start to kick in (usually around 30 mins), I never re-dose later it's really just a waste and asking for trouble the next day. This dose always gets me the good kind of fucked up. Peoples who's sweet spot is 125mg are probably not looking for the same kind of experience from mdma as you are, you're not going to be out of your mind from 125mg. Bear in mind most of the md you will buy here and on the street is cut and recrystallized to a purity percentage in the 80's, high purity mdma hcl doesn't look like those big dirty boulders and slabs.

I also think people new to mdma always expect it to be something it isn't from doing too much reading, try not to over analyze everything and just enjoy your night. Your frame of mind is a big factor in the trip.
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: zenvoboy on December 12, 2012, 09:03 pm
^ Thanks bkth, great input.

Yeah I think you're right. The only thing giving me the slightest reason to believe the MDMA that CFD gave to me was weak/cut, was that I was a first time buyer on SR and hadn't sent any messages to him first to "break the ice" and let him know I'm a genuine buyer. But even then, his reputation is so perfect that I can't imagine he'd even think about sending a lesser product to a new buyer - that would of course be terrible business, risking customers not coming back for more.

My first time trying it, I really didn't know much about the drug at all. I just kept swallowing bombs (with various amounts) every ~45 minutes until I *knew* I had reached some kind of peak. And my memory of the whole peak is very foggy (among other negative side effects); I must've had an heroic amount of decent quality stuff, like you said.

But... I'd do it all over again, and again after that. Whether that's extremely irresponsible or not, that's the level I want to reach. I don't consider my body some kind of sacred temple - if poor health is the price to pay for a life of whatever makes me happy, then so be it. I'll just try not to be one of "those guys" who like to actually *boast* about their "hardcore" attitude of only taking high dosages each time...
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: zenvoboy on January 01, 2013, 06:43 pm
Soooo... last night I went to my first rave. I wanted to make sure I had a good time, so...

*braces for an onslaught from the wise owls*

...I ate all of the rest of my MDMA. 560mg. 400mg initially, then the other 160mg probably around an hour or so later.

Yet, I still didn't reach that same level that I experienced my first time trying MDMA at that festival.
I still had a good night, but I wasn't very talkative, and still felt a little bit self-conscious and my typical awkward-social self at times. Although I was still happy to be around other people.
There was this one point, where a rather attractive female seemed to be signalling to somebody, so I looked behind me, tapped a guy on the shoulder, and pointed at her. No reaction. "Oh, maybe she means this guy". I nudge another guy. No reaction. Then she gets down off the dance podium thingy, comes up to me, and says "I just wanted to say happy new year", and gave me a hug.

...LOL.  :-[  :P  Classic me-style social ineptitude.

I'm starting to think though, that this will be because of my "headspace". My life was going fucking great around the time of that festival, now; not so much. So having this negativity in the way that I feel is probably making a big difference.

Despite the amount that I took though, I had a really smooth come-up. No dry-heaving. I didn't really feel it rush over me suddenly though, it just gradually got going.

Oh yeah. Probably quite an important point. I was a little bit drunk too, before taking the MDMA. I needed something to calm my anxiety/nerves, but that may have made the onset of the MDMA less noticeable, and maybe have dulled the peak a bit. But then again, I was drinking at the festival too...

It's all just a matter of experience I guess.
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: DiamondSky on January 01, 2013, 10:08 pm
So here's the deal, no one really want's to come out and say it but most every batch of MDMA I have taken has been a different kind of roll. Not saying they are cut or mixed with anything just that each bag is not the same thing. Some I take heroic doses to get a great buzz and others I only need a little. We're not talking about aspirins printed up in a factory but instead chemicals mixed together by just about anyone who can as best as they can.

So far I think the most euphoric sort of buzz I have gotten off of SR has come in the form of the Nintendo pills from Heineken I think. I normally prefer powder but decided to give those a shot and they pretty well hit the spot. Also picked up a few batches of MDA from ILF and that stuff seems to be POTENT. Slightly different high than MDMA but similar and fun, more visual for me and my girl.

Anyway, just a few tips, take MDMA on an empty stomach. Drop a Tums a few minutes before the dose. If you buy a new batch buy enough for a trial night where you just take a little and get a bit high to see how strong it is and then have enough to does a few more times at good doses after that. Mostly just want to be careful because I have had rides on MDMA where 150mg sent me flying and 400mg would have been uncomfortable over the top and it's not safe to assume that 400mg is really going to be any fun for you at all next time :->

Also, if you are doing powder and are CONFIDENT that you need to up your dose a little, sometimes taking a small bump in the nose is enough to get you right without having to wait for your stomach to process everything. Down side is it tastes like crap for a few minutes but hey, we are all druggies here right?
Title: Re: Trusted MDMA Vendor (UK) - Given weak product, or my inexperience?
Post by: gloomybear on January 01, 2013, 10:59 pm
I took some of CFD247's MDMA last night with friends, the come-up took slightly longer than usual (just over an hour rather than the usual 40 mins) but once it hit - BANG - lovely clean euphoria, eye wiggles and inappropriate expressions of love that lasted some hours before taking some of AUSTINAWAYAWAY's 2c-b which was the best I have ever had.

As disgusting as the taste can be I find a good way to check that it's nothing to do with your stomach chemistry is to dab on the tongue and let it sink in (a few mins without swallowing, allowing it to absorb properly makes it much more bearable followed by something nice and sweet to wash the taste away) this should give you a pretty quick lift. I did notice that CFD's MDMA tasted a little salty which I had not experienced before, but no complaints here, it was really beautiful and I am a pretty seasoned user.

I have realised though that I am much more of a Mephedrone fan as there is something very artificial and forgettable about the MD experience (2c-b does help in that regard though..).