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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Retro242 on May 21, 2013, 02:49 am
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besides weed. dont like gettin stoned when im hungover.. and besides speedy shit, like coke, meth, etc.
i get severe hangovers. one of the main reasons is i believe cuz i get extremely dehydrated. i have litterally gone through a Gal and 1/2 of water, and not had to piss any out. thats 12 lbs of liquid, lol. my hangovers suck!
any suggestions? thanks
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Coconut water and foods high in carbs and fats.
Try a sativa strains or edibles of bud. There's really nothing else that helps other than those mentioned.
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comon, man... are you telling me some like oxycodone or something aint better than high carb foods? theres gotta be something.
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I'm confused. Are you asking for a drug to get high or to cure your hang over.....?
Unless you have a tolerance to oxycodone or heroin, you will feel more nauseous and get headaches if you do too much. If you know exactly how much to use to get the best effects then be my guest.
I was assuming you were asking what was the best to take away the foggy headed, lethargic, groggy mood of your hang overs.
Another tip is drink a lot of water right before you sleep after a long night of drinking. Preferably coconut water or a bottle of gatorade at the least.
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oxycodone was just an example. yes, i was asking what would work to rid the fogginess, headaches, etc. i know a line of coke helps, but i figured there was a relaxer med or something that would be suitable for hangovers.
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N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC)
Its a diatary suppliment you can get from health food stores. Take it before you go out drinking or if necessary after.
The biology of it is in the link below.
***Warning Clearnet Link***
http://thehealthydrinker.com/2012/01/abcs-of-nac-n-acetyl-cysteine/
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It works for me!
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There's no real drug to cure your hang over other than to really mask it by getting high. Which is easily bud, coke, opioids, etc.
NAC and TUDCA can be very good for liver protection. But a good multivitamin, water, food, and ample rest will be the only thing to take it away.
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came in here to say coconut water
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forgot to say, i tried nac, 3 times. gave me a worse hangover.
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besides weed. dont like gettin stoned when im hungover.. and besides speedy shit, like coke, meth, etc.
i get severe hangovers. one of the main reasons is i believe cuz i get extremely dehydrated. i have litterally gone through a Gal and 1/2 of water, and not had to piss any out. thats 12 lbs of liquid, lol. my hangovers suck!
any suggestions? thanks
Drink water whilst you're drinking alcohol. And just before you go to bed, drink as much water as you can. It really helps.
And the hangover shouldn't be quite as bad.
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Diazepam. Sleep it off, or if you can't sleep you'll not give a fuck.
Also if you have the resources, get a bag of fluids from a hospital and set up a drip and you'll feel good once that's gone through!
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Diazepam. Sleep it off, or if you can't sleep you'll not give a fuck.
Also if you have the resources, get a bag of fluids from a hospital and set up a drip and you'll feel good once that's gone through!
I think an IV drip is way over the top and ridiculously unnecessary for a hangover.
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a lot of water, maybe some electrolytes dissolved in water are a good start. Add a good breakfast, some protein powder.
If it's really bad, I like to take a small dose of some opiates (codeine, tramal). That helps to relax.
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Diazepam. Sleep it off, or if you can't sleep you'll not give a fuck.
Also if you have the resources, get a bag of fluids from a hospital and set up a drip and you'll feel good once that's gone through!
I think an IV drip is way over the top and ridiculously unnecessary for a hangover.
True! It works well though.
I personally don't take anything. I just cope with it. I feel a lot worse after MDMA binges or after a bad trip so hangovers are nothing. Also I don't actually drink particularly often.
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Benzos and more alcohol. In moderation though. Too much and you'll only be postponing your hangover.
But yeah hangover prevention 101: DRINK WATER
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A good tip is drinking salt water (not too concentrated, like saline) instead of normal water before going to bed, or the best is taking one of those dehydration cocktails. The salt is important because when you drink a lot you're not really rehydrating because the sodium in your blood gets dissolved, which isn't so good. The best is buying those oral rehydration solutions that you get when you have some severe diarrhea.
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Take some honey and lemon juice. It will help your system to process alcohol and toxic metabolites of alcohol.
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yea, i know the natural ways.. was looking for an artificial way, lol. tree, im gonna try that. ill pass on the iv drip, hahaha.
never hear of honey and lemon juice.. gonna google that one. id try this one someone posted here, but i tried nac/vit C and it did absolutley nothing. in fact, i felt worse. and i tried it 3 times to make sure.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=144026.0
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If you prefer pills, you can take succinic acid in pills. It will make same effect. Succinic acid as lemons and honey will help to boost this:
[clearnet] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citric_acid_cycle
Citric acid cycle (aka Krebs cycle) is the process that oxidizates alcohol and metabolites.
I'm sure there are some remedies in pharmacies that to that shit too, but I don't know American pharm market.
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Or you could always just have a Bloody Mary.
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Fructose is also good to take before going to bed, or whenever you feel like you're done drinking, because it makes the alcohol metabolize more quickly. A gallon of salt water-ground banana-fructose-citric acid mix could be actually pretty good to avoid a hangover, or/and to cure it the day after.
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I would recommend you to stick with the easy stuff: drink tons of water and eat a huge bacon-sandwich! ;D
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Drink water whilst you're drinking alcohol. And just before you go to bed, drink as much water as you can. It really helps.
And the hangover shouldn't be quite as bad.
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^Listen to this guy, it's my plan too.
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Honestly wake up and eat as much as you can manage of a super greasy breakfast with 2 or 3 caesars. Definitely helps. That's what I always do, then smoke a joint after and you're good to go. You can skip the joint, if that's not your thing I guess.
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Or you could always just have a Bloody Mary.
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Or I'll give you what you want to hear
Oxycodone cures hangovers instantly, buy some and use it. But its just for hangovers...
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Most depresants even pain killers can have opposite effect on hangovers. Some people its the stomach, some its the headache and for some its as the Irish call it THE FEARS.
Drunk like a fish for 25 years and other than a heap more booze nothing worked except for good quality amphetamines.
A few times have had hangovers where i could barley talk with my daughter at breakfast and the mailman has delivered, one small spot smoked on foil and instant and total cure but then high for the next 2 days and needing to smoke pot and drink hard liquor to steady the ship.
No matter what you hear, read or are told by experts, Booze is far and away more damaging at every level of health than the hardest of drugs.
If you can train yourself to enjoy social intercourse without booze you get at least a 20% and up appreciation of life.
I now only drink on one of special occasions, ie Kids weddings, births and parents 80th birthdays. Even then i take a little speed and dont drink like a beast.
If you find that hangover pill you are going to be remembered as doing more for the human race than Jesus but you will have supported the people whe profit so heavily from booze sales, taxes etc 8)
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A time machine. So that you can zip back in time to the moment when you have "that" drink. You know, the one that puts you over the edge. So that you can tell yourself how shit you are going to feel....
Naw...
Quite apart from the time paradox, I would never listen. I would tell my tomorrow self "thats your problem, I'm having a good time right now"...
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oxycodone was just an example. yes, i was asking what would work to rid the fogginess, headaches, etc. i know a line of coke helps, but i figured there was a relaxer med or something that would be suitable for hangovers.
i feel like you have a different version of hangover cure than we all do. but to answer your question if your tolerance is low, oxy will over power the shit out of a hang over. it wont fix your dehydration or other issues. dont get hooked on oxy.
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Water is great for everything involving life on earth. Including drug abuse and hangovers!
And I second the coconut water recommendations.
I wonder if all alcohol hangovers are created equal. For example it strikes me that some people have the consistent headache symptom, some don't. Some have gut symptom, some don't. Etc.
I have found that opioids can improve an alcohol hangover, but can also put your head over an edge of a toilet bowl if you don't dose right.
I was recently surprised at how effective alprazolam was for a standard mild hangover. Not to fall back asleep, but to actually get through the day and feel better.
Personally cannabis does nothing positive for me if I am hungover. Same with greasy food which some people crave.
Everyone's mileage is going to vary on this one.
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thanks all.. well i gurss ill stick to water and high carb/greasy foods. but i assumed there was something that helped... at least as good as weed does.
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well i gurss ill stick to water and high carb/greasy foods
Not a good choice. Greasy food will poison your system and give a hard time to your liver and pancreas. If you are hangover you are not able to process greasy food. So it is just more poison.
If you want to get better you have to detoxicate your body, not intoxicate.
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i can vouch for the saline drip - the BEST cure. i go out with some nurses occasionally and go to work with them the next morning - 5 minutes on a drip and you are peachy :)
otherwise it's a couple of pints of water before hitting the sack, a line of coke and a couple more pints of water when i wake up and a fry up/maccy d's brekkie. not a 'cure' as has already been said, but stops you feeling like a peanut in a piece of poo
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Don't use more drugs unless your an addict which is favourable reason to binge. Food and liquids and research and activity. I say research because some more knowledge added to what you already know makes you feel good about your day. You were productive. All adds up then equates to a healthy state of mind.
But if you can't be arsed to do it the RIGHT way then the other option is the wrong way. Which people here have given clear instructions on how.
Respect drugs
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The only drug I use to help cure a hangover is weed. Pretty much any other drug will just mask my symptoms, postpone my hangover, and make it worse. Weed masks all my symptoms, relaxes me, and helps me do what is most important get over a hangover - EAT AND DRINK. This is my typical "morning after" routine.
1. Smoke 1 or 2 bowls immediately after waking up to cure nausea and give me an appetite.
2. Eat peanut butter toast and a glass of orange juice. (You can obviously eat something different. I just like that because it's super easy and gives me a nice amount of energy.)
3. Down as much water as possible.
Following those steps, I can typically go from feeling like complete shit to functional within an hour.
(This morning I was extremely hungover, and I realized I forgot to post an important step.)
4. Take a long hot shower. This is a lot like going to the sauna, like b0lixtrader mentioned in a previous post, but more convenient. It will help relax you, and also gets rid of that annoying, grungy feeling that comes with hangovers.
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I love that some people here actually do an IV saline drip for a hangover cure. Rock and roll!
I forgot to add that one of the most common recommendations that does help is orgasm. Ideally with someone else, but solo works if needed ;). It helps kickstart the neurochemical recovery.
I also like the previous recommendation of doing something productive with your day.
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A Bloody Mary!
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Stop drinking poison and switch to GHB!
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Tomato juice is good for you so a ceaser aint a bad idea either lol
Seriously though I totally agree with dabigboss.
Gotta have some ganja the next mornin for sure!!! helps BIG time!
I would add why but dabigboss has hit the nail on the head, helps you eat and drink , gets rid of the nausa and the pounding head.
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I forgot to add that one of the most common recommendations that does help is orgasm. Ideally with someone else,
lol, if you can mask your dogshit breath and stop your lips sticking to your teeth long enough ;D
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I forgot to add that one of the most common recommendations that does help is orgasm. Ideally with someone else,
lol, if you can mask your dogshit breath and stop your lips sticking to your teeth long enough ;D
Lol, no toothpaste strong enough to get the Jack Daniels out. Comes out of my pores like a poison, hangover showers are fucking torture.
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If you live in an apartment complex that has a sauna or have a sauna near you, go to it after drinking a lot of water. Take a cool wash then head in to the hot room and not the steam room. Sweat it out for 15-30 min depending on how much you can take. Wash off and go in again for another 15-30 min. Obviously you should take a good time to cool off in between.
This helps immensely obviously because you sweat like a dirty bastard but feels amazing after.
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I read you're supposed to drink two glasses of water per 1 alcoholic drink, but fuck that noise.
I don't get bad hangovers, but when I do get a hangover it's usually because I didn't get a good night of sleep.
Weed worked magic for me though.
I would just try to drink a lot of water before you go to sleep, and take two advil or whatever you like.
Have you tried different drinks? What kind of drinking habits do you have? Are you mixing all kinds of shit? Are you just sticking to a single type of alcohol all night?
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I am surprised nobody has mentioned Hovenia Dulcis aka Oriental Rasin Tree, active ingredient dihydromyricetin.
The Chinese have been using it as a hangover remedy for 500 years, finally the west is hearing about it more recently.
It also sobers you up if you take some when drunk. And it's quite good for the liver.
For a hangover, take your dose before bed with some water. The next morning will be much better.
Treatment of Chronic Liver Injuries in Mice by Oral Administration of Ethanolic Extract of the Fruit of Hovenia dulcis
http://www.worldscientific.com/doi/abs/10.1142/S0192415X07005181
Hepatoprotective effect of Hovenia dulcis THUNB. on experimental liver injuries induced by carbon tetrachloride or D-galactosamine/lipopolysaccharide.
http://www.biomedexperts.com/Abstract.bme/9145214/Hepatoprotective_effect_of_Hovenia_dulcis_THUNB_on_experimental_liver_injuries_induced_by_carbon_tetrachloride_or_D-gal
Effect of juice and fermented vinegar from Hovenia dulcis peduncles on chronically alcohol-induced liver damage in mice.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22648047
[This study found an inhibitory effect of ampelopsin on the growth of human hepatocellular carcinoma Bel-7402, which suggests it may help to prevent malignant hepatocellular carcinoma, the most common form of liver cancer.]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16617784
[Effects of Hovenia dulcis Thunb on blood sugar and hepatic glycogen in diabetic mice].
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12583164
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Interesting, tea_drinker! Where can you buy dihydromyricetin? Is it available as a herbal supplement? I'd like to give it a try
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besides weed. dont like gettin stoned when im hungover.. and besides speedy shit, like coke, meth, etc.
i get severe hangovers. one of the main reasons is i believe cuz i get extremely dehydrated. i have litterally gone through a Gal and 1/2 of water, and not had to piss any out. thats 12 lbs of liquid, lol. my hangovers suck!
any suggestions? thanks
A nice all natural banana smoothie baby!
+Milk
+Crushed ice
+Bananas
+Blender
+A little sugar
+A little vanilla ice cream (If preferred)
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We used to use Orange Gatorade and eat Salad all day. Worked for us.
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I normally try and stay clean on hangovers:
water
vitamins
food
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water, vitamin, fruit...... and weed
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WEED of course, thats 100 % working !
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If you live in an apartment complex that has a sauna or have a sauna near you, go to it after drinking a lot of water. Take a cool wash then head in to the hot room and not the steam room. Sweat it out for 15-30 min depending on how much you can take. Wash off and go in again for another 15-30 min. Obviously you should take a good time to cool off in between.
This helps immensely obviously because you sweat like a dirty bastard but feels amazing after.
This guy is clearly a pro. Everyone knows sweating like crazy helps big time, but few can actually get it up for a serious workout when hungover. Problem solved.
A yoga instructor once correctly pointed out that the amazing full body sweat you can work up from proper exercise is "like showering from the inside". I will never forget that.
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I forgot to add that one of the most common recommendations that does help is orgasm. Ideally with someone else,
lol, if you can mask your dogshit breath and stop your lips sticking to your teeth long enough ;D
Valid point, but presumably this forum population learned long ago that you can have pretty decent sex without much (any) kissing. Especially if you and the person waking up next to you are in the same dogbreath boat.
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cannabis, it helps wonders with the nausea
Whenever i wake up throwing up from my hangover, i smoke a bowl and usually the nausea and dizzyness and headaches all go away :)
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Xanax and try to sober up a bit before going to bed, during that time period drink a lot of water and take vitamins.
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coffee, 2 fioricet 3-4 advil and a real fatty greasy spoon breakfast. cool breeze and a bowl after. so does 100mg's of methadone but I suggest trying the first method first ;-)
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1+ on the protein powder comment above. One thing that causes headaches besides dehydration is a lack of amino acids. Protein powders have the full RD for all the amino acids your body needs. Meat, protein, in general is a good idea, but different meats and protein sources have different amounts of various amino acids, so if you go with the powder, you'll be sure to get everything you need.
I believe the only meat that has 100% of the amino acids you need is human flesh.... so unless you're a werewolf or did too much PCP and thought you were one... ;)
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2x berocca, 1x hydrolite, 2x ibuprofen & codeine, 1.5 liters of water. Sometimes good to line your stomach with bacon and eggs first so you dont throw up.
My way to cure a hangover.
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Irn Bru
Everytime.
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This is what I do and it works very well for me:
Before bed:
- Standard dose of soluble Alka-Seltzer (the one with aspirin) in a pint of water
- Sleeping tablet (I use a tablet with active drug diphenhydramine hydrochloride in it which is OTC in my country)
Next morning:
- Standard dose of soluble Alka-Seltzer (the one with aspirin) in a pint of water
- Nothing with caffeine in it, esp. black coffee (sits heavy in stomach, causes dizzyness and annoying mild shakiness)
- Foods easy on the stomach and bland. For me: potato chips, soup, toast.
- Drinking pints and pints of cold water makes me feel worse, I sip caffeine free tea all day (camomile for example, naturally calming)
Weed, vitamins, fruit, never did anything for me in a hurry. Everyone's different!
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Benzos, plain and simple. I take valium now as it makes me less of a zombie but i used to use xanax. I have some of my friends on the same regiment. I don't deal with hangovers anymore, period. Obviously drink water and get fat on delicious food all day as well. I don't experience nausea when hungover so I am not saying this is a cure for that. I just get a generally shitty feeling and a lot of anxiety when hungover, the benzo knocks all that right out of the park. I could do nothing wrong the night before and drink in my home and if I get hammered the next day I'll feel like a swat team is outside my door ready to shoot the shit out of me lol. Since I got my hands on a bunch of xanax and valium from SR I have not had to deal with that feeling. 8)
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Not a drug, but coconut milk and coffee is pretty good mixed with some chai seeds to absorb as many nutrients as possible... also agree on the sweating it out technique.
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Benzos, plain and simple. I take valium now as it makes me less of a zombie but i used to use xanax. I have some of my friends on the same regiment. I don't deal with hangovers anymore, period. Obviously drink water and get fat on delicious food all day as well. I don't experience nausea when hungover so I am not saying this is a cure for that. I just get a generally shitty feeling and a lot of anxiety when hungover, the benzo knocks all that right out of the park. I could do nothing wrong the night before and drink in my home and if I get hammered the next day I'll feel like a swat team is outside my door ready to shoot the shit out of me lol. Since I got my hands on a bunch of xanax and valium from SR I have not had to deal with that feeling. 8)
We likely have similar brain chemistry. I drink like a fish and if I have a hangover, I never have any GI symptoms. Only the general hellish brain stuff, malaise, vague shame, etc. that we all know. And I find benzos (Xanax) to really help a moderate or severe hangover. I didn't expect this to happen and just sort of tried it once on a whim. I don't really identify as having anxiety issues so benzos may work well for those with or without signficant anxiety issues.
It seems to me there are broadly two populations: drinkers who experience hangovers with significant GI symptoms, and drinkers who do not experience the GI symptoms. Remedies should logically be focused on the relevant population because there is likely a significant difference between these two populations at a biological level.
I can't recall if it was mentioned already, but opioids are also a great hangover cure. Risky territory, to state the obvious.
Also it must be noted that benzo addiction and withdrawal are extremely dangerous and you do not want to go there. I am thankfully speaking from knowledge rather than personal experience. So do your homework and stay smart in your use and abuse.
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This is COMPLETELY anecdotal.
I had a bit of a drinking problem for a while. I also invested in the nootropic Piracetam. It boasted some great antioxidant and neuroprotective effects.
I do recall getting absolutely shitfaced and waking up with no hangover. I know I overdrank because I threw up and my mouth and body were dry.
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opiates work wonders on hangovers for me
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Sitting on mars with Xanax bars. no brainer
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This.
Nothing but adequate amounts of water preferably during your drinking will help reduce or avoid the hangover. I usually try to do at least a glass of water or seltzer every two or three drinks. One to one water for alcoholic beverage and you'll wake up mostly fine even with little sleep.
besides weed. dont like gettin stoned when im hungover.. and besides speedy shit, like coke, meth, etc.
i get severe hangovers. one of the main reasons is i believe cuz i get extremely dehydrated. i have litterally gone through a Gal and 1/2 of water, and not had to piss any out. thats 12 lbs of liquid, lol. my hangovers suck!
any suggestions? thanks
Drink water whilst you're drinking alcohol. And just before you go to bed, drink as much water as you can. It really helps.
And the hangover shouldn't be quite as bad.
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Excuse me if someone mentioned this already: a Bloody Mary is an old-fashioned hangover remedy. A little bit of alcohol -- meaning, ONE drink -- will cure a hangover, providing you can stomach it. The Bloody Mary is supposed to be the best choice, as the horseradish in it will dilate your blood vessels, improving blood flow, which helps your body process the alcohol and get it out of your system faster.
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I also invested in the nootropic Piracetam. It boasted some great antioxidant and neuroprotective effects.
Piracetam mixed with alcohol will definitely harm your brain cells more than alcohol itself.
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water
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Excuse me if someone mentioned this already: a Bloody Mary is an old-fashioned hangover remedy. A little bit of alcohol -- meaning, ONE drink -- will cure a hangover, providing you can stomach it. The Bloody Mary is supposed to be the best choice, as the horseradish in it will dilate your blood vessels, improving blood flow, which helps your body process the alcohol and get it out of your system faster.
I mentioned a Bloody Mary earlier! Can't remember why the tomatoe juice and celery salt etc. work but some of the different ingredients do help in different ways!
My new cure for an alcohol hangover is going to be coconut water. Check it out for hydration! :)