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Title: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on February 25, 2013, 11:26 pm
Hey Ho folks o/

Because there is none yet and I'm awaiting a sample of #4 from Indubitably, I thought of starting the official - because it's the first - review thread regarding the vendor Indubitably myself  :)

I'm really looking forward sampling his #4, not least because it'll be my first time doin' #4 in general -- in Mid-Europe #3 is the dominant kind of H ...

Indubitably seems to be a likeable guy -- my conversation with him was very pleasant and I have a good feeling about doin' business with him overall  :)  Hopefully it'll proof to be true.

Light & Love,
∞aliaseses∞
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: White 0ut on February 26, 2013, 12:55 am
I am conteplating ordering a sample of molly but I am unsure of his stealth just yet waiting on a vendor response!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on February 26, 2013, 09:51 am
I've ordered one of their 100mg #4 samples, I will update back here after it has arrived and been tested...

It will be compared against deluxedelivery 's #4, which should hopefully be arriving around the same time.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: MC Haberdasher on February 26, 2013, 02:39 pm
Has anyone had anything marked in transit yet?
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on February 26, 2013, 06:51 pm
Not yet. Been a few days....
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: MC Haberdasher on February 26, 2013, 07:07 pm
Word..


I was looking forward to ordering some samples myself, but it was just bad timing all around.  MDMA and dope are a good combo, a favorite after work recreational mixture of mine.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on February 26, 2013, 07:58 pm
Got my order marked 'in transit' the next day after placing it ... I also FEd because he seems to be a trustworthy guy in my view -- and because I'm not the only guy that FEd (even if I was the first one), there are other customers having their order 'in transit' too I think.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on February 26, 2013, 08:15 pm
dude, never trust anyone on silk road

did you not read about enterthematrix?
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: MC Haberdasher on February 26, 2013, 08:35 pm
Yeah, dog..

Never FE for a new vendor that you haven't at the very least dealt with before.  I know it's only a few bucks, but when money is in escrow..  There is more of an incentive to actually get your package out the door.

But yeah, just think if all the folks who ordered samples finalized early??  Dude would have made back the vendors account fee plus some!  That kinda money adding up may prove to be too tempting for today's mortal man.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on February 26, 2013, 08:46 pm
Just followed a feeling -- it's important for me from time to time doin' that ;->

If he's a scam ... well, I'll survive it - if he isn't, it was just a nice beginning of a business-based partnership.

I totaly understand what you guys are saying even not having read about the enterthematrix stuff (I'll fetch that up, thx) ... it isn't my normal behaviour either.

Thanks for sharing your (sadly negative) experiences with me -- this community rocks <3
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: chil on February 26, 2013, 08:51 pm
I saw his listing for a molly sample but wasn't that impressed by the looks of it. I'd loved to be updated on quality.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on February 26, 2013, 11:24 pm
My H and Molly samples are on the way! I'll give reviews!!!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: MC Haberdasher on February 26, 2013, 11:51 pm
Just followed a feeling -- it's important for me from time to time doin' that ;->

If he's a scam ... well, I'll survive it - if he isn't, it was just a nice beginning of a business-based partnership.

I totaly understand what you guys are saying even not having read about the enterthematrix stuff (I'll fetch that up, thx) ... it isn't my normal behaviour either.

Thanks for sharing your (sadly negative) experiences with me -- this community rocks <3

I feel you, man..  I am not saying that this is a scam, but after a while..  Things happen around here and you tend to be a bit cautious. 

The last time I FE'd for a heroin sample..  I never got it.  I got the tracking number, and it was heading straight for me!!  Got into town, and my mailman decided that it was "UNDELIVERABLE AS ADDRESSED"

Now, I have my address typed out in the correct format with the +4 zip code and everything that I just copy/paste into GPG to avoid little BS situations like this..  If I hadn't finalized early, I would have had somewhat of a leg to stand on in resolution..  But I had no choice but to let it go.

I have a couple of vendors that I am willing to FE for, but I also know that they ship when they say they ship..  Even then, sometimes I get worried..  Like I just fucked myself.

Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on February 27, 2013, 11:40 am
Alright -- did some research about the ETM-story ... an ugly issue indeed :-|

The thought of ETM splitting up now to become a bunch of new scammers is for sure imaginable and _pretty_ sad.

I communicated for the last days with Indubitably and it was out-and-out friendly and pleasant. In another thread they say something about ETM have had given themselves good reviews etc -- now Indubitably didn't even opened up this thread, it was me and I'm a  guy from Europe without any relations to ETM nor to Indubitably ... but for sure it's pointless discussing about this because Indubitably could've manipulated me in a very clever way, I could be a possible liar in your eyes etc etc ...

In the end we'll all have to wait until the samples arrive, see it for ourselves, draw our own conclusions etc ... the only respectively major circumstance letting me be confident about doing business with Indubitably is - as I said before - a personal feeling assured by the chat we've had.

I'm really looking forward to sample his stuff and to read some reviews of others that did the same o/

Light & Love,
∞aliaseses∞
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on February 27, 2013, 12:11 pm
I just cannot believe people actually paid the prices ETM was charging and were thankful for it when there are so many other options available.

The majority of my successful deliveries have been from vendors that are not in the top 10%, i have about 50 vendors bookmarked and all have excellent offerings at great prices with fair policies, most don't require buyers to FE.

I'm always willing to give a new vendor a chance now that my buying stats are looking more respectable and honest and i can keep funds in escrow until i have product in my hands.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on February 27, 2013, 12:57 pm
Self-assurance is a mighty weapon and it impresses a lot of people -- especially those thinking that money can buy confidence ;->

For me, this is another sign for that's important also to handle a (new) vendor with confidence and good will.

PS@Fallkniven:
Your personal bookmarked vendor list sounds _terribly_ interesting, as you might imagine^^
If you're willing to share this sorrowful burden ... let me be the man who halves this load upon your shoulders! lol -- ;->
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on February 27, 2013, 01:10 pm
not a chance, sorry ;)

its taken me months to compile, and requires constant scrutiny of each vendors page to stay updated with their new policies and feedback.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on February 27, 2013, 01:28 pm
Needless to say I was joking ;->

But 'never say never' a wise ape once said -- maybe one day we'll be happy to swap our researches and lists and whatelse o/

Wish you all the best dude and see you soon :->

Light & Love,
∞aliaseses∞
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on February 28, 2013, 11:47 pm
i just counted my list of vendors - 98 - pretty far off the mark with my previous estimate ;)

the majority are good, but there a few a few bad apples i have my eye on, i have a hard time choosing who to buy from i'll say that much, my regulars are always on top though

i found most of them by sorting listings by newest
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on March 01, 2013, 09:05 am
i found most of them by sorting listings by newest
Thx for the hint -- this is also my approach of keeping it rolling regarding new vendors ... the top guys are put because they're mostly not on top in vain I think ;->
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: saranottegan on March 01, 2013, 03:33 pm
Does anyone know how he's shipping? (First class or Priority) I've sent him a message, but it seems like maybe he's been overloaded with orders. I had him set up an H order for me and it was marked In Transit on Feb 26th.

I'm guessing it was first class, or it would be here by now. Price seemed a little steep for anything but priority though.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 01, 2013, 08:08 pm
Does anyone know how he's shipping? (First class or Priority) I've sent him a message, but it seems like maybe he's been overloaded with orders. I had him set up an H order for me and it was marked In Transit on Feb 26th.

I'm guessing it was first class, or it would be here by now. Price seemed a little steep for anything but priority though.

First class. I PM'ed a couple days ago.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: saranottegan on March 02, 2013, 06:13 pm
I hope it shows up today. I got put in transit on Feb 26th. So I'm watching for the mail today.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: dannymcdanielson on March 02, 2013, 09:40 pm
Mine's been "in transit" since the morning of the 23rd.... still hopeful though
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: toolfan on March 02, 2013, 10:11 pm
 >:( This is looking bad. I have received my order from germany to west coast usa since I have placed my "free" orders from Indubitably.
There is no way if this was sent,that it was sent when it was marked in transit on the 23'rd of Feb.
Scamming on shipping charges? wtf? People FE'ing on higher $ orders are gonna be pissed. I did not fe but my  one bitcoin is sitting in escrow for ever if I have a choice.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: rtshredder on March 02, 2013, 10:52 pm
No one should be finalizing for anyone, much less indubitably. It's even SR policy that vendors are not allowed to ask for FE until they've been vending for a month.

I PM'd indubitably to ask about samples, but no response yet. No one has received samples yet, either? Nice.

To aliases, my H vendor list is here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=94564
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on March 03, 2013, 06:05 pm

To aliases, my H vendor list is here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=94564
Yeah, thx -- already have had seen it in you sig o/

... but big thx again for drawing my attention on it dude :bow:

EDIT:
Haven't got an answer on my last pm @ Indubitably yet either ... maybe he's doing good business right now and haven't had the time to answer -- at least now I really understand - bodily so to speak - why FEing's never a good idea even if your decade-long THC soaked hippie-brain is telling you to do because there's a feeling that wouldn't be ignored^^ ... but I'm not giving up my good thinking in/on/about Indubitably now/that fast -- I'll get my #4 sample - it'll be great - I'll have a great time and everything's gonna to be purple-shiny-sparkling-right \o/ ^^
Someone believing with me?! - maybe it works ;->
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: calicojak on March 03, 2013, 06:32 pm
I haven't placed an order with Indubitibly but I had been in communication with him a few times but the comms have stopped.
Sent him two messages two days ago and have yet to hear back.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: saranottegan on March 03, 2013, 06:50 pm
I'm still waiting for my 1/2 gram of H. I really hope that it comes Monday.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: MC Haberdasher on March 03, 2013, 06:55 pm
Yeah, dog..

If you are in escrow..  It's just a waiting game.

If NOTHING shows up by the time the resolve button turns green, put it into resolution..  If that doesn't get his attention, file for 100 refund.

And you people who are buying the MDMA samples, STOP FUCKING RELEASING FUNDS!   YOU ARE GIVING HIM MORE AND MORE INCENTIVE TO NOT SEND YOUR SHIT !
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on March 03, 2013, 09:49 pm
Indubitably has only been a vendor for 9 days and people are starting to get worried about shipping times?

Give the guy a break FFS!

he's most likely just inundated with sample deliveries he has to process as quick as he can
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: dannymcdanielson on March 04, 2013, 12:44 am
I guess what confuses me is that it seems like not a single person has received a sample. Even if he was delayed with most of the packages, at least one should have been delivered by now. I'm still giving him/her the benefit of the doubt, but my order goes into resolution time tomorrow, so we'll see!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Howabsurd91 on March 04, 2013, 12:49 am
O.K. So I was reading Indubitably's feedback and I saw that everyone was finalizing early  :o

I think I read that someone finalized early "just because they felt like it". Seriously guys??!!
Stop just giving money to people over the internet! Don't FE if you have the choice. Don't make it easy for scammers to be scammers.

Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on March 04, 2013, 01:33 am
Well -- yea - what could I say more as 'lesson learned'?!

Some need it this way ;>

... and because of the "felt like it"-guy: if this aims on me- yea, you're right, it was at least naive and redundant but I mentioned it earlier -- sometimes I need something like this to keep that unexpectant aimless trust and love from men to men rolling that's so hard to believe in ;->

... and yeah -- like Fallkniven said: it's not _that_ much time gone yet; everything could turn out well - even it's at least a bit strange that not a single person should've got his/her sample until now :-|

We'll see and report o/

Have a good start in the new week dudes o/
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Howabsurd91 on March 04, 2013, 02:18 am
Well, yeah I totally understand! When I first found this site, I did the same thing for my first few orders. You only learn with experience, so you're right about that  8)

Certainly is suspicious how long it's taking with this guy. Even first-class mail doesn't take more than a week to deliver! But let's hope for the best regardless.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: AnonEmouse on March 04, 2013, 07:18 pm
i ordered mine sunday night , it was marked in transit either tuesday night or wednesday morning .  so the timelines are ok with me im hoping to get in a day or two ..  i really hope someone gets one !
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 04, 2013, 11:09 pm
i ordered mine sunday night , it was marked in transit either tuesday night or wednesday morning .  so the timelines are ok with me im hoping to get in a day or two ..  i really hope someone gets one !

Mine was sent out Wednesday morning too and I usually get stuff really fast. There is still hope, I hope this is just a newbie hiccup, but all the FE's do look a little weird.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: A. Dubois on March 04, 2013, 11:51 pm
Yeah something is definitely sketch here. No response to anyone's msgs in a few days? No one has received anything? NOTHING? Mine was marked in transit last tues. and nothing in today's mail. At the very least he's a lazy bullshit artist. The worst he's a scammer. All these FE people need to get the hell off the road. They are making little scams like this worth while. It's so fucking trite, but it has to be said- NEVER FUCKING FE!!!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: TheDude413 on March 05, 2013, 02:21 am
I'm still somewhat on the fence here, but am leaning towards legitimacy.  I can see this going a couple of different ways:

1.  Vendor buys an account for ~$500 and starts selling these samples at $12 or so a pop.  He probably keeps $9-$10 after SR fees and by his own confession in messages and on the forums has sold over 200 of these.  So far only the marketplace shows that only 26 buyers have FE'd, so he would certainly be losing money at this point.  However, even 50-75% of people FE he only walks away with $900-$1500 should this actually be a scam.  I'm not convinced this is what is happening.

2.  Vendor stocks a sack of dope and posts SR samples with an exorbitant shipping price, perhaps thinking that the higher shipping will somewhat stem the flood of orders - who knows.  He's quickly overwhelmed with both orders and messages and sends a bulk blast PM implying some orders have been shipped and only a few are left to go out, just to get the monkey off his back for a day or two.  In the meantime he finishes shipping everything 1st class letter mail (USPS' lowest priority currently) and depending on where in the U.S. he is shipping from orders should be coming in throughout this week. 

I feel option #2 is more likely for a couple of reasons.  The pictures in his listing are of the same product but the 2 H listings in particular were taken at different times with noticeably different lighting and shadowing - it was also clear in the pictures that some product had been chunked off of one of the larger rocks.  In addition, someone finalized about an hour ago not with an FE but a note indicating they actually received product.  No comment on quality, but clear implication that they received a package.

I have started being hopeful about tomorrow or Wednesday but I feel like I will receive my sample by Thursday at the latest.  Time will tell if I'm right!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on March 05, 2013, 09:15 am
Hey folks o/

I got message from Indubitably which I want to share with you. I'm posting it as a quote (hoping it's OK for Indubitably but I think so because it'll be in his will people not thinking wrong about him) not least because the English isn't my native language and I don't want to mess things up^^ -- I'm leaving out the parts he's personally speaking to me about the business we have ...

Quote
Sorry for the delayed response. I could not get onto Silk Road for a while now. [...] I am glad that the SR community is understanding with me being a new vendor and all. Also, let me apologize for the delays in the orders. Marking the orders in transit initially was a mistake on my part. I didn't understand that accepting an order would also delete the addresses for the orders immediately. I thought that I would be able to manually mark each individual order in transit but, unfortunately, Silk Road did that for me. I did not expect so many orders to be placed so quickly and, I regret to inform you, I was ill prepared with enough shipping supplies to accommodate everyone. All of the shipping supplies that I needed were delivered this weekend and everything is going out in the morning. If anyone wants a refund, I completely understand. Just let me know. Once again, I apologize for the delay

Thanks.

Hope to have informed you well and that everybody will be satisfied in the end -- if not happy having a great product and a new vendor that equals his lack of professionalism in the beginning with being a throughout honest and likable person :)
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on March 05, 2013, 08:25 pm
picked it like a dirty nose!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: MC Haberdasher on March 05, 2013, 08:44 pm
Hey..

At least it's not turning into a DB4DH type of shit yet.



What a fuckin debacle that was.   I have never seen so many lost ass newbies in my life!!!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: saranottegan on March 05, 2013, 08:48 pm
I got a reply similar to that. He seems legit. I asked if he would send my priority, since I placed an order, instead of asking for a sample. He said he would definitely send it out priority today if it didn't already go out with the bunch yesterday.

I think he's legit. Just overwhelmed. I'm hoping to get it Thursday, but I'll be expecting it Saturday if it did indeed go out yesterday.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on March 05, 2013, 10:21 pm
just as a comparison, i ordered deluxedelivery 's #4 two days earlier than indubitably 's #4, both are from USA and i'm still waiting for both in Aus
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: toolfan on March 06, 2013, 04:26 am
 :o I was one of the first to order the samples. I have not received anything.First Pm was responded to in less than 10 minutes.he stated it was in the hands of usps.
Bullshit, Now I receive no response and he will never get my coins. The guy is a total fuck up.The main thing that pisses me off is SR still allows him to take orders even though no one has received shit.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 06, 2013, 04:46 am
I was one of the first as well, and I feel like I want to call bullshit too. He told me Tuesday night(last week) to remind him in the morning "before I send it out" to add in the MDMA sample in addition to the H. This implied that he had the packaging materials, product, and was ready to go. I have a smidgen of hope left, but I think something is up. It's been a full 7 days now since my package was marked "in transit," and a full 6 since he allegedly was supposed to ship.

And also, why has he not had any presence whatsoever on any of the forums? He could easily write in the newbie forum and PM a more senior member to have himself quoted as he did before with his other thread, yet he was last seen on the main site today.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on March 06, 2013, 11:40 am
He was pretty thankful for me starting this topic and also when I told him that I'll pass on the infos he provided in his messages to me ... maybe he's just not that much into forum-stuff or the like ...

For me it seems as he was/is massively overwhelmed by the sheer mass of orders and also not well prepared (rules and procedures of SR) ... why he was doing what he did and even more - why he was doing it the way he did -- I also am asking myself ... my guess: a symbiosis of over- as well as underestimation in a pretty adverse constellation ;)

Let's hope for the best dudes o/
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 07, 2013, 02:08 am
Got my 50 posts, so now I can post on the big kid forum!

Anyone have any recent updates on their orders? I ordered both samples and nothing yet. He finally messaged me back after days of nothing saying that I can expect it Wed or Thurs. Nothing came today. I'm going to be upset if nothing comes tomorrow. Let me know if anyone knows anything. I don't want to harass the poor vendor but I want my shit!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: A. Dubois on March 07, 2013, 03:12 am
He sent me the exact same msg. I told him I wanted a refund. He msg'd me back saying that he will give me my refund and sent the sample anyway. So far, no refund. No sample. I think this guy is just trying to get as many FE's as he can before he totally fucks off his rep. He's a BSer and a liar. I have no idea why anyone would cause all this stupidity for the few meager coins he could get before he's totally burnt. Some peoples' kids....
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on March 07, 2013, 09:23 am
I got the BTC I spent on shipping refunded ...
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 07, 2013, 01:50 pm
I'm one of the retards who did FE for this guy because I'm new-ish and too nice and it wasn't much money that I would be losing. Still no samples. Like I said in my last post, he said it should be in the mail yesterday or today. If it doesn't come today, I'll be real upset. I just have two questions...

Can I still get a refund even though I did FE?

Should we be clicking the Report Vendor button on his page?

I haven't had anything happen like this in any of the transactions I have made on the road in my short time being a member. I'm certainly not going to so trusting in the future.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 07, 2013, 05:00 pm
 :-[

So it finally got here. I'm sorry for doubting you, indubitably. It took a while, but when my sample finally got here, I was blown away by the stealth. For the chosen shipping method, I don't think it's possible for it to be packaged any more inconspicuously. Even after opening it, it would have been insanely difficult for a LEO to figure out what it is.

I was supposed to get both the H and MDMA, but I just got the H. No big deal at all, I still got wayyy more than my moneys worth.

*Shipping 4/5* It took a while to get here, and was sent out a few days after it was marked "in transit," but indubitably is just getting started and deserves some slack I would say.

*Stealth 5/5* Like I said, I was blown away. I'm relatively new, but I've ordered from a few very reputable vendors, and this stealth is WAY up there with the best. Seriously.


*Product 4.5/5* Appeared to be short by 20 mg's, but I have a very inexpensive milligram scale, so it very well may have been on point or a little bit over. I did a test shot of about 25 mg's just to be sure it wasn't super strong. I'm not nodding, but I got a nice little rush and a decent high. It mixed up with water to make an extremely light yellow solution with pretty much no particulate shit, and when I re-dosed with about the same amount an hour and a half later, I was just about where I wanted to be, and I still had a good 50mg's left. I wasn't sloppily nodding out, but I woiuld be able to pass myself off as not being under the influence if necessary. If I voluntarily closed my eyes though, I would be feeling pretty nice. Considering I take suboxone every day and I did some tar like a week and a half ago, I'd say that this stuff is pretty good. Not the BEST, but definitely some fire dope that is worth way more(on the road at least) than indubitably is charging. Next time, I would probably make sure I had nowhere important to be for at least a few hours, and just do a 100mg shot right off the bat and I would probably be good for at least 6 hours.

*Communication4.5/5* Told me he shipped it when it was initially marked "in transit." Nothing after that, although I didn't send any messages first, I just waited patiently.

**Overall 4.5/5** With a little work, indubitably could definitely be one of the top #4 vendors on SR. Hopefully(for whoever is getting it) his MDMA is as good as his dope.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: rtshredder on March 07, 2013, 05:18 pm
:-[

So it finally got here. I'm sorry for doubting you, indubitably. It took a while, but when my sample finally got here, I was blown away by the stealth. For the chosen shipping method, I don't think it's possible for it to be packaged any more inconspicuously. Even after opening it, it would have been insanely difficult for a LEO to figure out what it is.

I'm going to update this post very soon, but I just wanted to get word out of this vendors legitimacy ASAP.

I was supposed to get both the H and MDMA, but I just got the H. No big deal at all, I still got wayyy more than my moneys worth.

wow, monrovia that's huge.

Are the $130 grams legit? How is the quality?

I'll give this vendor some more time to get his process straightened out, but that's a good sign from a reputable member such as yourself.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: MC Haberdasher on March 07, 2013, 05:34 pm
I cannot wait to get my hands on this dope.  Even if I was to get it today, I am having a hard time getting onto SR to finalize anything.


Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 07, 2013, 05:37 pm
:-[

So it finally got here. I'm sorry for doubting you, indubitably. It took a while, but when my sample finally got here, I was blown away by the stealth. For the chosen shipping method, I don't think it's possible for it to be packaged any more inconspicuously. Even after opening it, it would have been insanely difficult for a LEO to figure out what it is.

I'm going to update this post very soon, but I just wanted to get word out of this vendors legitimacy ASAP.

I was supposed to get both the H and MDMA, but I just got the H. No big deal at all, I still got wayyy more than my moneys worth.

wow, monrovia that's huge.

Are the $130 grams legit? How is the quality?

I'll give this vendor some more time to get his process straightened out, but that's a good sign from a reputable member such as yourself.

For $130 a gram, this shit is legit as fuck. Based on what other people are charging, I think he could easily charge double.

I cannot wait to get my hands on this dope.  Even if I was to get it today, I am having a hard time getting onto SR to finalize anything.

Me too, I've been trying to get on for at least a half hour now with no luck.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: MC Haberdasher on March 07, 2013, 06:10 pm
I cannot wait to get my hands on this dope.  Even if I was to get it today, I am having a hard time getting onto SR to finalize anything.


I am on the road now..  Still need to check the mail.  If it's not here today, then hopefully before Sunday.

No sample..  Oh well.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Howabsurd91 on March 08, 2013, 07:48 pm
I was one of the people in the beginning who was quick to doubt Indubitably and accuse him of scamming.

But the guy definitely came through! ...and with the sickest domestic shipping  that I've seen in awhile!


Shipping/Dispatch Speed: 4/5. Seller had some shipping issues in the beginning and marked orders "in-transit" before they were sent. However, after reviewing the stealth, I can understand why it might take a while for him to get the orders out so quickly. Safety is more important than speed to me, so I appreciate

the extra stealth. Although, when the seller did actually dispatch the sample, it got to me in 3 days first class which is pretty speedy for that postage.


Packaging: 5/5. I love it! Indubitably has implemented very clever packaging. Looks just like normal mail

and would probably pass an inspector even if he opened it. At first, I myself couldn't find it. Good work

indubitably!

Communication: 5/5. A++ :) Communication with seller has been very effective and pleasant. He has answered just about all of my questions immediately and kindly.  Vendor is proving himself to be a great addition to SR. A little kindness and respect for customer goes a long way and I really appreciate it.

Product: 10/5! Very nice product for such a good price! I've sniffed less than a quarter of the powder and

I've acquired a noticably pleasant high. It's good gear. Only thing is, I was supposed to get MDMA, but I received H, which is what I'm currently reviewing.

All around service: 5/5! Vendor more than made up for the slipup in the beginning and provided excellent service. I have a good feeling about this vendor! :)
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: AnonEmouse on March 08, 2013, 09:20 pm
I got my sample of #4 today as well!
I kept good faith during the waiting period , because well . a new vendor with that many orders is gunna take some time to iron out the kinks

5/5 packaging/stealth/dispatch speed  :  by far the best stealth ive seen! now that i see it , im surprised it didnt take longer .. tho, be careful , i almost spilled (tho i allways open shit over something incase)
it shipped monday , and i got friday , not bad for first class  if he was an established vendor i would not be giving a 5 hear for timings . .but i understand it takes time to get your system down . so i hold no fault toward

5/5 communication :  im not that chatty type so i didn't attempt to contact him until yesterday , i just wantedto make sure i wasnt forgotten about ( i started to worry he may have lost addresses after reading the forum)  but , he replied very quickly and honestly about the situation  , and refunded my 11$ even tho i didn't ask for it .. so thats cool

5/5 product! :  very good street level dope i'd say .  not as good as SS's last batch , ,but , half my sample gave me a nice little rush and energy .. ill comment later on the legs , and so forth, after i finish it and get back to my pc in a couple of days.
but at that price . i would definitely be happy with a gram of  this stuff.   it breaks down to be murky white . so there is obviously cut .  but  again . pretty much same stuff im used to getting on the streets in my area (except when i can get crap or bomb :P )

all in all ,  i say rock on indubitably! ill be ordering someday in the near future
and sorry this is such a quick and dirty review . im in a hurry , but just wanted to get something down in writing , before i forget 
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: MC Haberdasher on March 08, 2013, 09:29 pm
I got home from work this afternoon, and as I was reflecting on todays events at work..  Such as how nice the new jeans this chick bought fit on that beautiful round ass of hers..  I get a telephone call from my ex (the one with the flat booty) telling me that for some reason, there is a letter at her house addressed to me, and that I "need to come and get it".

This could only mean one thing..  My H sample from Indubitably has arrived safe and sound. 

Immediately I gather the following items:

(1) 1cc syringe
(1) spoon
(1) q-tip
(3) Trojan Magnum latex condoms

I place these items into a sanitary plastic bag and begin the short, but somewhat unpleasant trek to this bitches apartment.  Upon arrival, I was greeted by my ex, her skinny pimple faced friend and a short, but stocky Hispanic gentleman with a lazy left eye..  He was introduced to me as "Hector"..  and at this time I was informed that this is my ex's new "man".

As I am sure you all can imagine, this bitch was intent on trying to make me feel jealous and/or awkward.  It was also apparent that there wasn't gonna be any sexual intercourse going on.  To top it all off, "Hector" was the one to hand me the envelope..  After some short and idle chit-chat..  I decided to get on with it and vacate the premises so I can finally shoot some/all of this fucking dope. 

So I took all that stuff with me for nothing..I ended up storing the Magnums back into my desk when I got to the studio..  I don't think Hector would be able to use them to their full potential, despite his best efforts.  The needle/spoon/cotton were discarded swiftly after use.

So, here it is..  The review of "Indubitably" and his east coast powder sample:

Packing/stealth:  5/5..  Anyone still waiting on a sample, check every piece of mail you get until you get it..  It blends in with normal mail VERY well.  As an added bonus, this can be opened by yourself in front of others, or be opened by someone else..  And they would be fucking clueless.  As they fucking should be!!!  There was one issue with the way the dope was packaged, but I let the vendor know and hopefully things in that area improve.  Very smart.

Comms: N/A...  I didn't say fuckin boo to this guy until today when I sent him a thank you note for the sample.  He has updated threads pertaining to him with explanations of why things are late, etc..  I think he is really trying to do good here.

The dope itself: 4/5..  If anyone has gotten stamps from DeluxeDelivery, this dope is very similar in appearance.  The picture of the dope in the sample listing is an accurate depiction of what I got.  Greyish powder with a few solid bits..  Doesn't look or feel like anyone laid a dormins cut on it.  No insoluble cuts either.

Now, most level headed folks would have taken a portion of this dope to gauge potency..  After reading the report that my man "monrovia" posted about the strength of this Heroin, I decided to just shoot the whole fuckin thing.  The pile was about the size of 2 average sized stamps from DD.  The solution was almost clear.

I got a nice rush and my mood had elevated to what I consider to be a good level.  We are coming up on about 3.5 hours after i did the shot, and although it has died down a bit..  I can still feel the majority of the effects.  I am not nodding out, but I am itchy and I am in a good mood.

Now!!  For those who insist on knowing where everyone's opiate tolerance is (sbmafia)..  I shoot dope two days a week at most, I don't take any of that methadone or suboxone junk..  And the last time I shot dope before today was Wednesday afternoon. 

Just as a quick comparison..  100mg's of Supersun's GPH is probably 75 percent stronger then 100mg's of this concrete I just got today. 

It is my opinion that although the gear from SS was a bit more potent..  Both vendors have decent dope for good prices.


(Lady with a microphone followed by a cameraman run and proceed to accost me as I leave the studio)

Lady:  "MC Haberdasher!!  Now that you have in fact received and injected a full 100mg's of #4 Heroin from the new "up and coming" vendor "Indubitably", would you continue to purchase from him..  Even though some folks on the SR forums are having doubts about his performance?"

(Lady thrusts microphone into the face of MC Haberdasher)

MC Haberdasher:  "Based on this afternoons testing, I would continue to purchase from him as long as the quality is consistent, he streamlines his shipping, and doesn't jack up the price or pull some FE bullshit in the future....  It's good to see new guys on the road selling H, more options are always a good thing around here."

Lady:  "Is it true that a few years back, you were named "chubby chaser of the year" by the local newspaper?  And that you once shot a half gram of cocaine and punched out 3 police officers?"

MC Haberdasher:  "No comment"
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: A. Dubois on March 08, 2013, 11:23 pm
Wow- looks like InD has proved me wrong. I received my #4 sample today. Shipping times, as we all know, were whack. He marked the samples in transit, but didn't send them. Not cool. It was no biggie as this was a small sample, but if a junkie was ordering G's or more for his stash, it's imperative for there to be honesty regarding shipping so the opiophile can make proper accommodations and plans. Dishonesty regarding shipping can leave a junkie broke and sick.

Stealth was freaking bad ass. Like seriously bad ass. Like so bad ass it doesn't even need to be that bad ass. The best thing about it, is that if you cohabitate with others they could literally open your mail and would still be clueless. They would also think you're a really great guy. (wink wink)

Dope was in the B to B+ range. I did the whole sample and it actually got well over my 65mg methadone maintenance dose. Had I taken it on a day that I skipped my dose it would have launched me out of orbit, I'm sure. As it is, it has me feeling nice and warm and fuzzy and just like it should. Now when you consider the price of the dope, it's an A+++. Hands down. No one's dope on the road will give you as much of a buzz for as long as InD's for the commensurate amount of scratch. I'm sure of that.

I'm msg'ing InD now for a 2 gram custom order. I'm hoping he has his shipping times up to par now. If he does, I predict he'll be one busy dude for a long time to come.

Welcome to the road InD, and I humbly apologize for making the incorrect assumptions about you. I hope you stay long and strong and become my main H dude here. Look out for my msg and let's get this thing rocking!

Aristotle Ulysses Beauregard DuBois III
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: TheDude413 on March 12, 2013, 08:35 pm
I received my sample from Indubitably on Friday but with the Forums down couldn't log on to report until just now.  Most people have commented on the stealth and I will agree that it is hands down the best I've ever seen.  Not only is the product impossible for LE to find (or as close as you can get) it is easy to remove the product without damaging it, which can be especially disastrous with powders.

The product itself was absolutely amazing; I had no opiate tolerance at the time having taken a break for the past 2-3 months, and I did a very small preliminary bump to be safe and gauge the quality while fully expecting to have to do more as I can easily smoke nearly a point of high-quality BTH in one sitting.  A couple of minutes after my first line the warmth started to creep in, and just didn't stop!  I ended up doing another small line (10-15mg or so) later Friday night and got sick for a bit it was so strong. 

I didn't weigh the sample but it looked a bit over .1g and it ended up lasting me until the end of Sunday night even though I chipped almost nonstop all weekend.  I was retarded the entire time and my eyes weren't fully unpinned until late yesterday afternoon.  This experience has definitely sold me on #4 and I will be switching exclusively; the wastefulness of smoking BTH (I don't and won't IV - no judgement, just a slippery slope) has become very apparent to me and snorting #4 is where it's at for me I've decided.

Indubitably seems like a stand up guy - I monitored the forums instaed of messaging him about the delay but after I received it sent him a thank you note and ended up conversing back and forth over a couple of messages, just talking about the Road and the H community.  Very nice guy, acts very professional and I will absolutely be back for more, especially now that he is leaving the .1 listing up with no minimum for the next couple of weeks.

(Here's hoping I made Top 50 reviews!)
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: toolfan on March 13, 2013, 01:04 am
 :D This is what I posted on the road: Received sample today.Was marked shipped: February 23, 2013. Date on envelope was 3/5.
Stealth is incredible! Almost too much.Lost some sample accessing. I ordered one of each sample so I wasn't sure which one it was. Indubitably answered that ?. It's obvious that seller has had some issues but shows true desire to become a reputable seller. I will update once sampled in the future.....edit: sample is just plain awesome! If vendor gets reliable shipping times the sky is the limit!
Got my mdma sample yesterday! Released coins I'm a happy camper.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Drksdfmn138 on March 13, 2013, 01:11 am
IN has told me to send him my address again and he would make things right. Sounds like things are going a little more smoothly now.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: jmoney113 on March 13, 2013, 01:47 am
Placed a small order with Indubitably this afternoon for just 2 of his 150mg capsules as a tester. He has his MDMA listed slightly cheaper than most other domestic vendors, so why not take a shot in the dark and give the new guy a chance? Reading this thread has definitely given me some confidence in ordering from Indub, and hopefully I'll have a nice fat review sometime this weekend. :)
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: saranottegan on March 13, 2013, 05:34 am
Placed a 1/2g order that first weekend he was sending out samples... got 1/2g plus a little more of MDMA this past Fri, which he had warned me about. I asked him to put the H order in the mail that Sat. a.m. and even sent him what he was asking for for priority mail. Felt it was the least I could do since he was giving me the mdma for free. I also placed a couple other orders that when out priority from across the country that got here yesterday and today... still waiting on the 1/2g of H.
While placing those other orders, I decided that I'd also place another order for 400mg of H, priority, figuring I'd have nearly a gram by Wed. I'm hoping that both show up tomorrow. While one is still in escrow, the 1st one isn't, because I finalized when I got his explanation and the mdma came.

Fingers crossed I get a couple packages from him later today (Wed.). I do trust him, I just don't get how all my other priority vendors (even a brand new one!) have their stuff to me in in less than 72 hours and Ind is taking longer (when he's closer to me)...

I'm just bitching. I'm sure it'll be here soon. What can anyone who's received their H tell me about it?

Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: powr on March 13, 2013, 06:23 am
I put in an order for a gram of Indubitably's #4 heroin on Saturday night.  Of course with the next day being Sunday I knew the earliest it could possibly go out would be on Monday.  I did decide to pay the extra money for Express shipping because who wants to wait for their drope right?   I was pleasantly surprised when it arrived by around noon on Tuesday morning...  So far as quality.. Decent stuff for the price.  I would most likely use this vendor again.  My tolerance is up a bit more than usual since I have been using dragoncove's gear since Friday.  Dragon's is a little bit stronger but now that Indubitably has his shipping issues ironed out he seems to be a good option if you are looking for some #4 for a decent price.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DivineMomentsofTruth on March 14, 2013, 07:04 am
I placed an order for a gram of H on sunday night and ordered express after making sure Indub would in fact send it out monday morning otherwise I would have went with someone else since I am running low on opiates and figured wednesday would be the latest it would show.
Well here I am up super late Wednesday night. Indub marked my order shipped monday but today (day 2 in transit for an express pack) and still nothing shows.

I asked him if he could look up tracking for me or confirm when he really shipped it and provided him with my transaction number but he asked for my address again. This concerns me. Does this mean you are saving addresses in a list next to what they ordered or something? Anyways I encrypted my address and pm'd it to him hours ago and I am still waiting on a response. Hopefully tomorrow it just shows up.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on March 14, 2013, 07:19 am
the reason he asked for your address is because he didn't have it, he needs it to check the tracking.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 14, 2013, 08:31 pm
I too am sick waiting on my #4 that I ordered on Sunday, priority. I messaged Ind to ask a few questions and he gave me his answers and told me the package would go out Monday morning. It is now Thursday, the mailman already dropped off mail today and nothing. I got my other package from a different vendor yesterday and that vendor ships from MUCH further away than Ind. There has been a real lack of customer service with this order and I think that is the most frustrating part. I ask direct questions, can clearly see that he has read my messages but he doesn't respond. I also had problems with my first order with him. I order both samples, only received one and he has yet to do something about it. I did review the H sample that I did receive and did not get any refund. I'm fine with paying for samples but when I don't receive it, he needs to resend or give me a refund. The most recent message I sent, laid out all of the problems I am having in detail. I really hope he can redeem himself. I really enjoy his #4 but I cannot deal with complete and total lack of care for the customer.

-Sick and Frustrated
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: dr gonzo on March 14, 2013, 08:58 pm
Nothing again for me today my friend's. Getting sicker by the minute. How's the song by Radiohead go?? "this is what you get".
I brought this upon myself but indub needs to get his shit together in the mean time.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 14, 2013, 10:52 pm
When did you order Gonzo?
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: dr gonzo on March 14, 2013, 11:20 pm
When did you order Gonzo?
I ordered express on Sunday. I'm sorry,story that sets the precedent to my above post was actually all posted on the "heroin vendors" page.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 14, 2013, 11:43 pm
I ordered express on Sunday. I'm sorry,story that sets the precedent to my above post was actually all posted on the "heroin vendors" page.

After I posted on this thread, I went over to the Heroin Vendors thread and saw your other posts. That's really shitty. Someone posted in the H Vendors saying that Indubitably told them that their order (placed on Sunday also) wasn't mailed until Tuesday when the post office was closing. If that was the case for all of the orders that were placed Sunday, you still should have received your's.

Either way, I feel like shit, I'm crabby, my husband is ready to kill me because we're both sick and mean and I WANT MY SHIT!!!!  >:(
Oh, and I'm totally out of drugs so ALL I've done today is eat. I feel like a fucking fat ass.

Let me know if you get any good news. I'll do the same.

Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 14, 2013, 11:48 pm
I too am waiting on my order to arrive. I guess we are all in the same shit boat. People dealing with Wd's should really try out Kratom. It helps a lot.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 15, 2013, 12:52 am
I too am sick waiting on my #4 that I ordered on Sunday, priority. I messaged Ind to ask a few questions and he gave me his answers and told me the package would go out Monday morning. It is now Thursday, the mailman already dropped off mail today and nothing. I got my other package from a different vendor yesterday and that vendor ships from MUCH further away than Ind. There has been a real lack of customer service with this order and I think that is the most frustrating part. I ask direct questions, can clearly see that he has read my messages but he doesn't respond. I also had problems with my first order with him. I order both samples, only received one and he has yet to do something about it. I did review the H sample that I did receive and did not get any refund. I'm fine with paying for samples but when I don't receive it, he needs to resend or give me a refund. The most recent message I sent, laid out all of the problems I am having in detail. I really hope he can redeem himself. I really enjoy his #4 but I cannot deal with complete and total lack of care for the customer.

-Sick and Frustrated
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It seems like we are having the exact same issues. I ordered mine on Monday in the morning , hoping it would go out priority before 12. Unluckily SR was down all monday and my order didn't get processed till after the mail was closed on Monday. So I got a message saying he noted it to be shipped priority on Tuesday. Well I never heard if it actually went out so After sending him 4 messages to see if he remember to send my shit out (Cause I just moved out of state and am sick as all fuck) Then on Wednesday I finally got a message that just said it was on its way. But he never said 1. Did he remember to ship it priority like I paid for and 2. when did he actually ship it. I tried to send him a message asking this ...and of course I got nothing back so now my btc are with him and I'm totally in the dark, and I'm just sick as can be. Since he originally said he was going to ship it tuesday before 12 I was expecting it in the mail today...but ofcourse it fucking wasn't there. I'm at my wits end though...I need dope now. I wish I knew when it was going to be here.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 15, 2013, 01:08 am
My husband and I moved recently also. We started using SR because we don't know anyone where we moved. We've asked a few people but there's no opiates where we moved!

I'm hoping Indubitably will respond to my message tonight or early tomorrow. I'll post here if I get any news. Try and hang in there and feel better everyone! I'm off to pop a Xanax and try to get some sleep.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DrChong on March 15, 2013, 10:09 am
Not to be a dick, but to all the H addicts who are complaining: realize that it's YOUR fault, ultimately, that you're going into withdrawal. If you were able to control your usage and be a casual, every once in a while user as I am then perhaps you wouldn't be in this mess! Just saying. I understand that vendors need to get their shit together when dealing with express orders, no matter what drug it happens to be. I expect to get some hate from saying this, but it's my opinion.

That being said, it turns out that I was one of the lucky ones who mistakenly got sent the free 100mg sample of heroin. I'm expecting a 500mg H order from Indubitably which I thought came today, and got scared that he sent the wrong order, but as it turns out the letter was postmarked before I even ordered...so guess I'll just have to wait a little longer. Still, very glad I received some H today, and let me tell you, it is comparable to FastForward's quality, at much cheaper prices. I love it, and he's got my business in the future! And the stealth is epic. I've already gone through 50mg tonight which is much more than my usual amount just because it's such good quality and I can't stay away.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: fuckyou777 on March 15, 2013, 10:55 am
fast forward??? really...i gave him a shot but that dope felt like it was cut with some WEIRD stimulant or disasociative ( im betting small amount of mxe) it was an amazing high...during the rush then just all hell for 4 hours....both me and my wife got these effects BOTH times.

also i placed an order through indubitably monday with EXPRESS shipping...it didnt come yesterday(thursday) so i guess we'll see if it shows up today. i expressed my feelings and actually got refunded the full amount i payed for shipping...so YAY i got $30+ dollas...but i didnt get my DRUGS :) update later in the morning.

Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 15, 2013, 11:12 am
Not to be a dick, but to all the H addicts who are complaining: realize that it's YOUR fault, ultimately, that you're going into withdrawal. If you were able to control your usage and be a casual, every once in a while user as I am then perhaps you wouldn't be in this mess! Just saying. I understand that vendors need to get their shit together when dealing with express orders, no matter what drug it happens to be. I expect to get some hate from saying this, but it's my opinion.

That being said, it turns out that I was one of the lucky ones who mistakenly got sent the free 100mg sample of heroin. I'm expecting a 500mg H order from Indubitably which I thought came today, and got scared that he sent the wrong order, but as it turns out the letter was postmarked before I even ordered...so guess I'll just have to wait a little longer. Still, very glad I received some H today, and let me tell you, it is comparable to FastForward's quality, at much cheaper prices. I love it, and he's got my business in the future! And the stealth is epic. I've already gone through 50mg tonight which is much more than my usual amount just because it's such good quality and I can't stay away.



Thats a valid point accept really all people want that are sick is proper communication. I just found out instead of sending mine priority like he said he would, he fessed up to shipping it local. (Though I paid for priority)Now who the hell knows when it will get here (I have no idea where indub ships from) Now I feel stupid for not just ordering something else express. I'm not pissed cause I'm sick, I get sick often. I'm upset because there has been piss poor communication. Luckily I didn't spend to much money with him, which is good cause I nearly bought a gram. I'll just order some BTH from NOD tomorrow. I just had high hopes for this guy, he seemed like a real straight shooter.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: fuckyou777 on March 15, 2013, 11:33 am
yeah im sorry but seriously...trying to blame the usps...come on. with ALL our orders REALLY? i meen he is trying..in a weird half ass atempt way. refunding my money was cool. and it did put me a little at ease(not enough to FE:)

o and i also second the kratom comment. i have enough kratom piled away to last me 6 months...and it cost like 250. thats a weekend with dope..but seriously i NEVER have to really worry. i always know that no matter how bad it starts gettin. i got my kratom.





Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: dr gonzo on March 15, 2013, 02:14 pm
Indubitably(98)    Damn! I will refund you the btc. No problem. I purchased the express stamp instead of going into the post office myself to mail them. I will never do that again.

Give me your address again also.

This is the message I received from indub. Now, I got my btc back, and that's great, but this explanation sounds a little weird to me. I mean " I purchased the express stamp instead of going into the post office", huh?
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 15, 2013, 02:43 pm
Indubitably(98)    Damn! I will refund you the btc. No problem. I purchased the express stamp instead of going into the post office myself to mail them. I will never do that again.

Give me your address again also.

This is the message I received from indub. Now, I got my btc back, and that's great, but this explanation sounds a little weird to me. I mean " I purchased the express stamp instead of going into the post office", huh?

That doesn't give you ANY information! What the hell is express stamp?! At least you got your coins back. I've been sitting on the road for the past two hours waiting for a message from him but he hasn't even read the message I sent yesterday afternoon. So frustrating.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: fuckyou777 on March 15, 2013, 02:51 pm
well you can purchase the stamps/labels online. if you drop it in a drop box no dcn provided. take it in get it scanned by mail man= dcn number.

so now we have plausible denyability on an express order.yay.   like i said i got my refund on shipping cost so i g uess im happy :( but i feel this was done because of a guilty concience.(which IS a good thing)....now when it comes to the whole...was i seriously lied too? situation...not good not good at all. i can take alot of shit(slow shipping bs etc) but I CANNOT stand to be lied to.

IF i was lied to...well how can i honestly give a 5/5 rating...its seriously the one thing i cant forgive...there is no point in lieing though it gets post marked...we find out in the end.

this guy does seem like hes trying...though....i just REALLY hope he didnt lie.

if anybody gets there mail early please come on to let us(me) know if it came/when was it shipped/postmarked
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: dr gonzo on March 15, 2013, 04:07 pm
So I asked if it was even shipped at all and this is what I got back:

No what I am saying is that I didn't go into the post office to fill out the forms and pay. What I did was to put one of the stamps for express on the package and put a mailing label on it and sent it out. I have been told that it would sometimes be returned to the sender if the form hadn't been filled out. Learned that this morning as a matter of fact. But I have been informed on how to do it correctly now. It will be in the mail box before 1 pm today.

What do you all make of this?
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 15, 2013, 04:17 pm
So I asked if it was even shipped at all and this is what I got back:

No what I am saying is that I didn't go into the post office to fill out the forms and pay. What I did was to put one of the stamps for express on the package and put a mailing label on it and sent it out. I have been told that it would sometimes be returned to the sender if the form hadn't been filled out. Learned that this morning as a matter of fact. But I have been informed on how to do it correctly now. It will be in the mail box before 1 pm today.

What do you all make of this?

Sounds like he fucked up and didn't get your package out. I don't know what all the rambling about stamps and labels is but clearly he fucked up somewhere along the way.

I'm really upset now because clearly he is responding to you and ignoring me. He hasn't even opened my message from yesterday! Once this fiasco is over, I HIGHLY doubt I'm going to deal with him again.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: jmoney113 on March 15, 2013, 04:28 pm
I'm just making this out to be a new vendor biting off a little more than he can chew at the moment. It is a little off-putting that he isn't shipping his priority packages as priority.

I'm a little uneasy about my MDMA though. On his vendor page it says the 150mg comes encapsulated, but I'm reading reviews that the molly is free-flowing and people are finding it to be short. I don't have a mg scale but hopefully I get what I paid for.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: rtshredder on March 15, 2013, 04:34 pm
Not to be a dick, but to all the H addicts who are complaining: realize that it's YOUR fault, ultimately, that you're going into withdrawal. If you were able to control your usage and be a casual, every once in a while user as I am then perhaps you wouldn't be in this mess! Just saying. I understand that vendors need to get their shit together when dealing with express orders, no matter what drug it happens to be. I expect to get some hate from saying this, but it's my opinion.

That being said, it turns out that I was one of the lucky ones who mistakenly got sent the free 100mg sample of heroin. I'm expecting a 500mg H order from Indubitably which I thought came today, and got scared that he sent the wrong order, but as it turns out the letter was postmarked before I even ordered...so guess I'll just have to wait a little longer. Still, very glad I received some H today, and let me tell you, it is comparable to FastForward's quality, at much cheaper prices. I love it, and he's got my business in the future! And the stealth is epic. I've already gone through 50mg tonight which is much more than my usual amount just because it's such good quality and I can't stay away.

Yes, you're being a dick. Yes, you should shut the fuck up.

Look at your last fucking sentence and realize you're going to be just as bad as some of us in a few years, and just shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: fuckyou777 on March 15, 2013, 04:36 pm
Edit i dunno i was being a meanie
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: powersmoke on March 15, 2013, 04:39 pm
 :o
I wasnt going to trash the guy 'cause i ended up getting full refund......BUT, sounds like other folks are going through the same shit i did, and it sux, so I'll post my experience as a warning......
I ordered a full G on 3/01...EXPRESS. Wasnt Shipped until 3/04--after i sent him 4 messages, and began to get semi-hostile in tone.
On 3/4 he tells me its was sent, and he "took care of" me--his words--for my trouble.
On 3/11, package comes in.
Bear in mind--I didnt order anything else, had nothing else on the way, and wasnt holding at home--in other words no back up plan at this point. Wife and I just finished off a KILLER  3-day sack from Dragoncove the day before, so we were just about to start feeling sick when the mail came. 
BTW--I'm a grown ass man, and dont need any judgemental  "you should know better, dont use so much, etc." bullshit that was posted earlier--fuck you--I DO know better. Shit happens.
Anyway--i figured this gram was right on time, cause we were starting to get the sweats, and getting irritable. I open up the mail, dig through the "stealth", and find a TENTH was sent. One TENTH of my order.
After waiting 10 days, I got one friggin shot. And it wasnt very good.
I figured most likely someone else got mine. And i was not a happy camper. Told him so.
Luckily there was no argument, just a refund, as i requested. Not waiting on a re-ship, at that point.
There are much better vendors, with much better product, that will continue to get my money.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: dr gonzo on March 15, 2013, 05:05 pm
It's confirmed guys, nothing is coming today, if he made the same mistake with your order as mine. I wasn't sure if he really meant in earlier post that he had gotten the packages returned to his address, because that blows my mind, so I wrote again and he verified that that was actually the case. He said he was resending on top of refund. Still not getting my hopes up.
I hope I'm the only one who's package was "returned", so you may all still get lucky....keep us posted. Much respect to all, except for that self righteous dick Chong, I have forgotten more than you know young buck,the last thing I need is some moral lesson from a hypocrite such as yourself. Wow, that was a little rough. That's what DT's will do to you.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: fuckyou777 on March 15, 2013, 05:07 pm
EDIT: i guess i was just upset.

edit: yeah fuck you dick chong. you obviously havent been using opiates long.....when i first started i did think the same as you(i was a dick) but eventually you will slip. you WILL fall down. sure you might very well get back up but its gonna happen.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 15, 2013, 05:15 pm
I'm REALLY pissed too. He STILL hasn't even opened my messages. I can't stand being ignored. I'm going to send him another message. This shit is retarded and I've given up hope. I'll post if I hear anything or if something magically comes in the mail (HIGHLY doubtful).
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: powersmoke on March 15, 2013, 05:18 pm
I'm just sayin--
If you are expecting something really good--you might be disappointed.
If it hasnt come and you're getting the run around like i did, just cut your losses, get a refund and go with someone that has known quality and product.
Its really not worth the effort or the hassle.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: fuckyou777 on March 15, 2013, 05:21 pm
i kept getting really upset i should have given this guy a chance and kept my mouth shut.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 15, 2013, 07:23 pm
Nothing for me today from Indubitably and he still hasn't read my messages. So, as of right now I can't even get a refund to buy something that will actually show up. Is there a way that I don't know about for me to get a refund without him answering my messages? I still have 6 days before I can click the Resolve button  :'(

On a positive note, my acid showed up today. I had it sent standard and my #4 sent priority. They supposedly went out on the same day. So, by my calculations, I should have the #4 up my nose at this point in time rather than acid in my mouth. Indubitably is really fucking up.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: fuckyou777 on March 15, 2013, 09:38 pm
i was wrong. sorry
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 15, 2013, 09:45 pm
His dope is worth it. Its really good actually. That's why I ordered more than a sample this time. I'll probably go back to him too eventually but for fuck's sake, read my god damned messages man! I hate being ignored. I've been sitting on the forums and road all fucking day. Just waiting for some news and the mother fucker STILL hasn't opened my messages. How the hell can you run your "business" like that?! I'm mad. I want my shit.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Dipset420 on March 15, 2013, 09:49 pm
Got my order marked 'in transit' the next day after placing it ... I also FEd because he seems to be a trustworthy guy in my view -- and because I'm not the only guy that FEd (even if I was the first one), there are other customers having their order 'in transit' too I think.

  I haven't ordered in a while,  But you guys have got to FUCKING STOP FE!!!!!!!!!!  Its the only way people get burnt and you people keep doing it.  If nobody does it no vendors will ask for it and no one will get scammed.  Everybody was sucking Tony's cock 24/7 cause he did have killer dope which I had ordered and loved, but we all remember that fiasco.  Don't FE.  And please when you leave buyer feedback do us all a favor and don't just say killer stealth/was a really nice guy/got here on time/answered all my questions ect ect ect, and never even once mention how the product was lol.  If you don't have time to try it don't leave feedback.  All I care about is how long it took to get there, if it weighted, and quality of the product. 
Don't mean to sound like a dick but I hate when these fucking vendors rip us off.  It blows when you cant smash someones face in with a baseball bat cause there hiding behind a computer screen.
Peace
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: junkiebug on March 15, 2013, 09:55 pm
I placed an order a couple days ago with standard shipping. I will report here when I receive it. I believe his trouble may be with shipping express but I don't know. Luckily for me, no withdrawals or anything so I can wait.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: fuckyou777 on March 15, 2013, 10:01 pm
repus u know im in the same boat....i wish i would have listened to my wife and just stuck with what i know. i rheamed her ass good for buying some expesive bth...BUT it did get here in 24hours...(baby this is as close to me saying "i was wrong" as ill ever get)
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 15, 2013, 10:08 pm
That's pretty funny because my husband told me to just order Blues from our regular guy. I did both. The Blues came and we did them and I'm all "it's cool because the #4 will be here soon". Now, every day my husband asks "So, where's that #4 you were talking about?"

Fuuuuccccckkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!! Looks like he refunded some of my money. Could be from the samples I bitched to him about. He still hasn't responded to my messages though.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 15, 2013, 10:09 pm
So has he answered anyone message? Cause thats whats really pissing me off. And the fact he used standard instead of priority like I paid for, but that is forgivable if it is here tomorrow. If not I shall unleash the full wrath that is infamous. Like its not even the money, I just can't fucking stand people ignoring me . It makes my skin crawl.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 15, 2013, 10:15 pm
I placed an order a couple days ago with standard shipping. I will report here when I receive it. I believe his trouble may be with shipping express but I don't know. Luckily for me, no withdrawals or anything so I can wait.

I'm hoping the same thing. I ordered a 1/2 G on monday, and it was marked "in transit" on Tuesday. If I don't have anything tomorrow, I'll know somethings up. Last time my letter from him was postmarked on Tuesday and it got here Friday. I'm not feeling very optimistic, but I really hope that his trouble was with sending priority/express packages. O well, I'll let everyone know what's up when it gets here.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 15, 2013, 10:24 pm
I think he might be online now. He JUST responded to my messages (from yesterday)

Christ, I feel like a fucking stalker.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 15, 2013, 10:32 pm
I think he might be online now. He JUST responded to my messages (from yesterday)

Christ, I feel like a fucking stalker.

I know the fucking feeling. The first thing I did today was get on his profile to see when he was last seen. I"m like I know you were on today INDUB answer my question. I'm OADA (overattached drug addict) instead of OAG
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: seeyallnextyear on March 15, 2013, 11:06 pm
Has he answered anyone today, at least in the last 6 hours? He won't answer me either. Said he was going to cancel my order unless I FE. I told him no and asked that he cancel quickly so I could find someone else. That was at like 6 this morning. He's just sitting on my BTC cause I won't FE. Can't we do anything about guy?
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: fuckyou777 on March 15, 2013, 11:39 pm
well im, just happy this guy is trying
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 15, 2013, 11:44 pm
Don't FE. He responded to my messages from yesterday a couple of hours ago. I think he's just dumb and doesn't know what the fuck he is doing. That's the only reason I haven't reported him. He's like a retarded kid, I guess. You really wanna kick it but that would be the wrong thing to do so you leave it alone....

I REALLY wanna report his tard ass though god dammit!!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: seeyallnextyear on March 15, 2013, 11:50 pm
That's it. Stupidity is not an excuse. If he can't handle being a vendor and take responsibility for himself, then he shouldn't be on here. And he should not be asking people to FE either. Especially when his page mentions nothing about FE. I think it's time to report him. If no one else will, I'll do it.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 16, 2013, 12:02 am
Doooooooooo iiiiiiiitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or if you are giving me the "go ahead", I'll go do it right now.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 16, 2013, 12:15 am
So, I sent him another message asking when my package was mailed. Simple question.
He responds with:
Again, I apologize, but I do not keep an actual record as to when priority mail goes out.


SERIOUSLY?!?!?!?!?! WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?! It was Sunday. I fucking ordered it fucking Sunday!!! If he had done what he said he was going to do his fucking response SHOULD HAVE been "Oh... Monday. I mailed it Monday". But instead, I get "I don't know"!!! What the fuck man?!?!?! I'm so fucking pissed now. I had to vent somewhere and my husband is tired of listening to me. WHAT THE FUCK?!?!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: seeyallnextyear on March 16, 2013, 12:17 am
I guess I did something that got his attention. He just messaged me and said he sent it, I would have much rather he cancel it though after asking me to FE. But we will see what happens. With express shipping and being shipped out today, I should have it by Tuesday. Without a doubt, I will be touching base at that time.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: dr gonzo on March 16, 2013, 12:18 am
If he keeps fucking up all of these reputable members of he forum, and people due their due diligence and pay attention to the forum's, it will all come out in the wash and anybody with half a brain will stop fucking with this guy and he will be a distant memory. I'm not saying being a vendor is easy, but enough of us who have been here for awhile know what to expect and see plenty of other vendors, who probably have a much larger customer base, do an outstanding job and do actually make it look easy. That's who will be getting my business from here on out. Good luck to the rest of you.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: fuckyou777 on March 16, 2013, 12:57 am
this really is a shame too yall claim the product was of sound quality for the price. i was really excited to see a new vendor that has awsomly competetive prices...this is why he will get a slide on this one. but only this one....ill give a 5/5 WHAT YOU ARE? AFTER ALL THAT BITCHING? yeah im a softy...no not really i just like cheap good dope. i am posting it here and i will include it in my encrypted message on the second purchase.

i gave you a 5/5 on our first fiasco....for only benefit of the doubt.  i am making this purchase today i expect it to be SHIPPED tommorow/by any cut off time...also i would like you to GET A DCN number. if you cannot promise (yourself i guess) dont bother. i would also like to inform you i will be rating you for the first shippment based on the proceedings of this transaction...IE if we have some insident that is OBVIOUSLY your fault. i will be changing my original rating to reflect my satisfaction with the transaction...which assuming the dope is stellar is a 3/5. i really do not want to tarnish a new vendors name and offer these conditions as a contract between us. (not unreasonable) 


this is fair right? and dont anyone mention the word blackmail. because those fucking conditions are SUPER REASONABLE.

if this dope is worth it...i guess i dont mind helping out some n00b on his journey down the road...ive helped out friends with the whole customer thing i just never expected to help out a vendor...
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 16, 2013, 01:21 am
I wish some of the people that left feedback saying they received today would come to the forums and give some details from their experience... I agree that it's very aggravating to not have a clue as to when an order is going to show up. I'm really trying to give indub the benefit of the doubt, being a new vendor and all, but damn, hes really got to catch up to the vendor learning curve. If he doesn't, like dr gonzo said, people will just go elsewhere.

...this is fair right? and dont anyone mention the word blackmail. because those fucking conditions are SUPER REASONABLE.

if this dope is worth it...i guess i dont mind helping out some n00b on his journey down the road...ive helped out friends with the whole customer thing i just never expected to help out a vendor...

I definitely think a 3/5 is fair for this order at least, considering you were expecting express shipping and all.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 16, 2013, 01:39 am
That's very reasonable, fuckyou. I hear you on the good cheap dope. I'm all for it! I'd be way more forgiving if it seemed like he was actually trying though but he isn't. He doesn't give a shit. I'm not a vendor and I am still on the road several times daily. It's the first thing I do when I wake up and the last thing I do before bed just in case something went down with an order that I need to know about. I think that the vendors should be making time to check/respond to people several times daily. The last thing a drug dealer should want to do is piss off his clients.

I'm off to try and enjoy the rest of my night and the rest of my acid. I'll see you all here tomorrow! My fingers will be crossed for us all!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 16, 2013, 02:40 am
He answered my message. I asked him when it was shipped. Like someone else said I think Indub just bit off more than they can chew and just got overwhelmed. Is that an excuse not to answer messages? no, but you live, you learn. Shit happens. I doubt he's scamming us.

Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: fuckyou777 on March 16, 2013, 04:23 am
I SWEAR TO GOD PEOPLE

from   message   freshness   
Indubitably(96)    I didn't get to this message until now. No packages were returned to me. There is nowhere for them to return to. Where did that come from? I had a mishap where one of the persons who I sent an express package to claimed that they had returned the item to sender because I had overlooked the waive signature box but when I informed them that there was no sender to return the item to, they admitted that they did sign for the package, but... nothing can be "returned" to me.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 16, 2013, 12:36 pm
Ok I think we might be being a little harsh on the guy. He seems like he tries to make everything legit. Just give your dope a day. I know alot of us are sick, but fuck we're dope addicts. It happens.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 16, 2013, 01:15 pm
Good morning kids. Anyone have any good news for me? It's only 9:15 where I am at so I have like 6 hours before my mail shows up. So, I'm relying on everyone here to tell me something good...
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 16, 2013, 01:28 pm
My mail is also not here....but I'm hoping today is the day that my sickness leaves...I'm praying to whatever there is to pray for. Heroin forces of the world , please find yourself in my veins.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 16, 2013, 01:39 pm
AND in my nose!!!! Lol- My fingers are crossed for everyone. I'll post updates here as I get them and I'm sure I'll be around all day because I have nothing better to do  :-[
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 16, 2013, 05:18 pm
Again nothing came.... I"m starting to lose hope. I don't know what else to do.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 16, 2013, 05:42 pm
Fuck! I'm still waiting on my mailman. When did you order, infamous? I can't remember. I'll let everyone know if I get anything when my mail gets here.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: dr gonzo on March 16, 2013, 07:18 pm
Here' my update on my Indub experience: Well if you've seen my earlier posts, you saw that I was in a tight spot, partly my fault for being an addict, but I've been on SR for awhile, so I know, more or less, what to expect as far as shipping times go, and needless to say, I was a little disappointed with this experience thus far. Granted, there are always exceptions, but that's life in the fast lane. Anyway, as you all know, I was a week deep on an express package from Indub, I messaged him with my problem and he was pretty good about responding fairly quickly. He was very apologetic and not only refunded my btc, so I could go elsewhere to get my medicine, but also said he would reship. Now, I was grateful for the refund, but wasn't holding my breath on the reship. Well damned if the next day I didn't have to sign for a package, which I was expecting to have to do from reading earlier post from other members, and it was not only a sample, but the actual half gerb I had originally ordered...WOW!! I was pretty tough on Indub, but I will tell you this, he does really seem to trying to do right by his customers. I didn't expect him to refund and reship, so by virtue of that, I would like to give this vendor his due props, and also apologize for being so rough on him...dope sick will really put you in a bad place, but that's redundant.
As far as quality goes, I would tend to agree with "shredder" and "divine moment of truth", not very strong. I cut out about 50 milligrams and no rush at all, dope sick is gone, but not very high. Oh well, just glad not to be sick anymore. Did two more shots and have a slight buzz, make of it what you will.
Because this vendor bent over backwards to make this right, if he can get better quality, or lower the price, I will be back. I hope the rest of you in the same boat received their packages as well, and thanks again Indub for making this right.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 16, 2013, 07:26 pm
I am sick as hell still and the mailman brought me nothing today. I have no idea what the fuck I'm supposed to do?! I don't know if I can handle being sick AGAIN all day tomorrow and be sick until 4pm Monday hoping that my package arrives. I'm so frustrated that I want to cry.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on March 16, 2013, 07:34 pm
I have a priority package on the way at the moment. I luckily don't have to deal with withdrawal being a very infrequent user but waiting a long time for dope that isn't even that good by all accounts it really frustrating.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 16, 2013, 07:44 pm
Monday, he said it shipped tuesday. So there really is no reason it shouldn't be here. Priority shipping or not
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 16, 2013, 07:48 pm
I am sick as hell still and the mailman brought me nothing today. I have no idea what the fuck I'm supposed to do?! I don't know if I can handle being sick AGAIN all day tomorrow and be sick until 4pm Monday hoping that my package arrives. I'm so frustrated that I want to cry.
Hey, do you have a headshop around? go get Kratom they should definitely have it. It'll help a ton.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 16, 2013, 07:55 pm
I have no cash otherwise, I'd go look for Kratom. I did send him a message tearing him a new asshole (again). That made me feel slightly better and I may drink. I found booze and 1/4 of a bar.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 16, 2013, 08:12 pm
Ugh, im sorry.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DrChong on March 16, 2013, 11:43 pm
Not to be a dick, but to all the H addicts who are complaining: realize that it's YOUR fault, ultimately, that you're going into withdrawal. If you were able to control your usage and be a casual, every once in a while user as I am then perhaps you wouldn't be in this mess! Just saying. I understand that vendors need to get their shit together when dealing with express orders, no matter what drug it happens to be. I expect to get some hate from saying this, but it's my opinion.

That being said, it turns out that I was one of the lucky ones who mistakenly got sent the free 100mg sample of heroin. I'm expecting a 500mg H order from Indubitably which I thought came today, and got scared that he sent the wrong order, but as it turns out the letter was postmarked before I even ordered...so guess I'll just have to wait a little longer. Still, very glad I received some H today, and let me tell you, it is comparable to FastForward's quality, at much cheaper prices. I love it, and he's got my business in the future! And the stealth is epic. I've already gone through 50mg tonight which is much more than my usual amount just because it's such good quality and I can't stay away.

Yes, you're being a dick. Yes, you should shut the fuck up.

Look at your last fucking sentence and realize you're going to be just as bad as some of us in a few years, and just shut the fuck up.
Lol. Proves my point - addicts get super angry when they're called out for their addictions. My drug use consists usually of binging on something over the weekend with a few weeks break of sobriety in between to keep tolerance and addiction potential low. I'm going to be as bad as you in a few years? Because...somehow it's impossible to be an occasional opiate user or something? Nicotine is more addictive than heroin, and yet somehow I haven't gotten addicted to that even though I'll have a cigarette every once in a while. Same thing with heroin. So kindly take your cursing elsewhere, thanks very much. Also I appreciate how you gave me negative karma just because you've been offended by an opinion.

Also, I'll take the opportunity to note that Indub screwed up again (this time for me). Messaged him about the situation and hopefully he'll be able to rectify it. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 16, 2013, 11:57 pm
It is totally possible for people to be occasional Opiate users as well as occasional smokers but that's not what this thread is about. The only person we should be judging is that fucktard, Indubitably. I'm probably going to lose my shit if nothing shows up Monday. Just so you guys are aware. Fair warning.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 17, 2013, 06:12 am
Repus6  haha that gives me such a funny visual. Like you take a shit, and you look to examine your work....and the shit is gone.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Parsimony3504 on March 17, 2013, 09:41 am
Sorry for the LATE Post; even though I've been a Buyer on SR for 14 months I did not have 50 Posts since I rarely go on the Forums!! So I had to get 50 Posts before I could leave a review about “Indubitably” (a new Vendor)!! I received my FREE Sample of #4 H from Indubitably on March 7th. The quality was very good  (and clean) but not quite as good as Supreme Smoke's #4 H. The stealth was incredible; honestly, it was the best stealth packaging I've ever seen on SR. And I've been on SR for 14 months now. Indubitably is a great guy with lots of integrity; not to mention very generous!! His #4 H is a great VALUE for the money it costs!! I hope he sticks around after taking some abuse from Buyers on here!!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 17, 2013, 02:22 pm
Hahaha! I'm never going to be able to say that "I'm going to lose my shit" without thinking of that scenario now! By the way, Infamous, I'm going to look to you tomorrow for some hope because your mailman seems to show up before mine does.

Parsimony, how long did it take for you to receive your package?

I've got to figure out a way to make today go by fast!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 17, 2013, 05:17 pm
Guys, go look at the feedback on his page. Someone posted this 2 hours ago:

ordered: March 8, 2013
shipped: March 9, 2013(according to the post (what is marked on the physical envelope itself) it wasn't in the system until the 14th of march)
received: March 17, 2013

They posted more info and said they did not pay for Express shipping. The strange thing I noticed is that the package was received today but today is Sunday so there shouldn't be mail. Anyway, maybe our shit was mailed on the 14th and HOPEFULLY we will all receive our packages tomorrow.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 17, 2013, 06:31 pm
I saw that too...something seems fishy cause I don't know how he would of got a package on sunday. Maybe that is Indub trying to let us all know he was just really late at sending packages? But i was thinking, I don't mean to burst your bubble but i don't think it will be here tommorow. My post office closes early on sat, and isn't open on Sun. So i just don't know how they would of got anything new shipped between Sat and tommorow. I could be wrong though. I just don't want your hopes to get dashed again Repsus.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: fuckyou777 on March 17, 2013, 07:25 pm
ok...so i got it... yesterday..sory repus... but seriously dont get excited....its sooooo weird...NO rush(why i shoot dope) but i did have the excitedness all day....i remember the whole day....i did about a half gram.....:(   the dope isa whitish color...VERY light tinge to it) when the water hits it. it turns alot darker. VERY little is not water soluable. over all i dont think its really worth the money....or the hassel....probally not gonna happen again....o well worth a try...also if yall are really saying it was worth it...when u got (uncut) samples you might end up being a little disapointed with the full g- h/g....quality.i dont have any REAL tollerance i do dope once a week. but im a daily user of kratom(1-4tsp) so i did expect it to last us at least two days...i would rather spend twice as much and get FUCKED up for two days not sorta maybe i guess im high for 1 day....i also think it is NOT #4 dia morphine...it just doesnt feel like it/ takes 30-45 seconds for ehhh????feelings??? to kick in

o and guess what signature not waived...i think i will forever be sketched out by this situation. it really has me thinking LE info gathering project...paranoia? yes but that doesnt meen its not true...
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 17, 2013, 07:58 pm
Well, damn. The sample I ordered was really good. It had my husband and I both fucked up for a day and a half. I wonder if my shit will be cut also. I was going to order a half gram but came up a few dollars short, so what I did was ordered 4 samples. We really don't have much of a tolerance and we snort it rather than shoot it. Last week, we had 3 Blues and they lasted us more than 8 hours and I was even puking from them. Hopefully it'll all turn out ok and the rest of our orders are being processed through USPS today so that the rest of us get stuff in the mail tomorrow.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: pamplemousse123456 on March 17, 2013, 08:14 pm
I ordered a week ago and still have not received my order. Indubitably is not answering any of my messages. Whats up with this?
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 17, 2013, 08:20 pm
Tomorrow will be the one week anniversary of me placing my priority order also. This guy seems to either not give a shit about his customers or is just too dumb to know how to mail shit. Looks like people are getting their orders, finally. Lots of us are still waiting.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: fuckyou777 on March 17, 2013, 08:59 pm
i also forgot to note there was NO stealth what so ever. just thrown in an envelope.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 17, 2013, 09:24 pm
Fan-fucking-tastic!! The stealth was awesome when I got my sample. The best I've seen. I guess he either got super lazy or super busy. Neither is an excuse though. I'm really hoping I get mine tomorrow. I'll post a review here when I (eventually) get mine.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: rtshredder on March 17, 2013, 09:40 pm
Not to be a dick, but to all the H addicts who are complaining: realize that it's YOUR fault, ultimately, that you're going into withdrawal. If you were able to control your usage and be a casual, every once in a while user as I am then perhaps you wouldn't be in this mess! Just saying. I understand that vendors need to get their shit together when dealing with express orders, no matter what drug it happens to be. I expect to get some hate from saying this, but it's my opinion.

That being said, it turns out that I was one of the lucky ones who mistakenly got sent the free 100mg sample of heroin. I'm expecting a 500mg H order from Indubitably which I thought came today, and got scared that he sent the wrong order, but as it turns out the letter was postmarked before I even ordered...so guess I'll just have to wait a little longer. Still, very glad I received some H today, and let me tell you, it is comparable to FastForward's quality, at much cheaper prices. I love it, and he's got my business in the future! And the stealth is epic. I've already gone through 50mg tonight which is much more than my usual amount just because it's such good quality and I can't stay away.

Yes, you're being a dick. Yes, you should shut the fuck up.

Look at your last fucking sentence and realize you're going to be just as bad as some of us in a few years, and just shut the fuck up.
Lol. Proves my point - addicts get super angry when they're called out for their addictions. My drug use consists usually of binging on something over the weekend with a few weeks break of sobriety in between to keep tolerance and addiction potential low. I'm going to be as bad as you in a few years? Because...somehow it's impossible to be an occasional opiate user or something? Nicotine is more addictive than heroin, and yet somehow I haven't gotten addicted to that even though I'll have a cigarette every once in a while. Same thing with heroin. So kindly take your cursing elsewhere, thanks very much. Also I appreciate how you gave me negative karma just because you've been offended by an opinion.

Also, I'll take the opportunity to note that Indub screwed up again (this time for me). Messaged him about the situation and hopefully he'll be able to rectify it. Fingers crossed.

No, you're just being a douchebag for the sake of being a douchebag. Your little holier than thou bullshit isn't helping anyone. You just sound like a pompous asshole. Everyone was able to control their use at some point. All of us have said the exact same things you're saying. You're not enlightening us with your amazing intellect and your ability to control your opiate usage. And you really have no idea what it's like if you think nicotine addiction is anywhere in the same galaxy as opiate addiction. So please, just shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 17, 2013, 09:55 pm
INCINERATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 18, 2013, 03:37 am
Guys Dr.Chong Will learn soon enough. If you fuck with heroin you will get addicted...now I know some people who control it after an addiction fine. However everyone falls. He'll just have to learn the hard way
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: jmoney113 on March 18, 2013, 03:41 am
So with a majority of you guys underwhelmed about the quality of indub's H, anyone have any insight to his molly? My order has been in transit for 4 days now which is normal, and I'm expecting the package to arrive tomorrow. I may try the product tomorrow as well, but I'd like to be reassured by someone on the forums that it truly is some fire molly. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 18, 2013, 04:37 am
So with a majority of you guys underwhelmed about the quality of indub's H, anyone have any insight to his molly? My order has been in transit for 4 days now which is normal, and I'm expecting the package to arrive tomorrow. I may try the product tomorrow as well, but I'd like to be reassured by someone on the forums that it truly is some fire molly. Thanks guys.

There is rumor of the bigger orders of H being of considerably less quality than the samples that were given out, but I can't attest to that first hand. I don't know if there are similar rumors about the molly. Until I find out for myself I can't say whether there is any validity to the rumors, I'm just saying what I've heard. Who knows, maybe it's a really smart scam by a really busy and fucked up dopehead  who's gonna send out samples uncut, then cut the shit out of future orders and somehow pull a big profit before he gets figured out(and there's really no explicit rule declaring this a scam that I know of.) Maybe he's completely honest and competent enough to do this and just got in over his head to start and is really going to end up alright. Maybe he's somewhere in between. We'll just wait on the quality reports for this week and see how things go. I think there are a lot more people who are into his H, but last I checked, he pulled all his listings, so who the fuck knows when he'll be back or what he'll have. Only time will tell I guess. It seems like there's hope for peoples orders to come in tomorrow and Tuesday. I would advise people to be weary until further notice, but like I said, he pulled his listings last I checked.

Guys Dr.Chong Will learn soon enough. If you fuck with heroin you will get addicted...now I know some people who control it after an addiction fine. However everyone falls. He'll just have to learn the hard way

I think almost everyone has an addictive personality to a varying degree, but I think the spectrum is pretty wide. There are definitely some people who like to use drugs, but still, because of whatever combination of innate personality characteristics and external/environmental influences, a person might be able to try even heroin and not get addicted. chances are though, you guys are right and if you followed ANY random first time heroin user, they would probably get physically and/or psychologically addicted within three years. Regardless, there's no need to bash people just because something has them hooked at that particular time in their life. Who the fuck are you to judge another person's path in life, and reasoning for what choices they make, whether good or bad for their best interest, if it doesn't harm you?
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DivineMomentsofTruth on March 18, 2013, 11:52 am
I just got some dope from an old friend I hang out with every now and then the old fashion way before SR,from the city Indub sends from and 1 bag (110mg on my scale) has me feeling, and i'm not exaggerating or bullshitting in anyway, soooo much better than the half gram I blew the first day i got my gram from him.  I really hate to bash the dude but that stuff was cut so bad.  I wouldn't want anyone wasting even the 130 he's charging on this domrin cut with some H somewhere in there.  I paid for express and he told me it'd go out the next day, instead he marked it in transit and shipped it the minute the post office was closing the following day.  Then, when I mentioned that he offered to refund the cost of shipping (which btw I didn't ask him to do) and then claimed that he did but I never got any btc in my account. I can't tell if the guy is honest and stupid as fuck or just out to fuck people. I'm not sure which one I'd prefer him to be either.I almost forgot I can get good dope if I spend 45 minutes driving, meeting up with my connect, shooting the shit with him and then driving home all in under a hour.  And it's cheaper then 90% of the dope on here and right up there with Deluxe Delivery and Dragon Cove.

I might need to go back to the old fashion way. I only started buying dope on here recently because my friend who'd pick it up for us went to rehab and i didn't want to tempt him, well he gave me his number when he got out of rehab this week and deleted it from his phone so I met the dude finally.  I got to say I wasn't sure how much better the stuff on here was going to be than what I get IRL but for the most part it's cost almost twice as much and not felt as clean. I guess I got better shit than I thought.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 18, 2013, 03:39 pm
Anyone receive their mail yet?
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: MC Haberdasher on March 18, 2013, 04:23 pm
I just got some dope from an old friend I hang out with every now and then the old fashion way before SR,from the city Indub sends from and 1 bag (110mg on my scale) has me feeling, and i'm not exaggerating or bullshitting in anyway, soooo much better than the half gram I blew the first day i got my gram from him.  I really hate to bash the dude but that stuff was cut so bad.  I wouldn't want anyone wasting even the 130 he's charging on this domrin cut with some H somewhere in there.  I paid for express and he told me it'd go out the next day, instead he marked it in transit and shipped it the minute the post office was closing the following day.  Then, when I mentioned that he offered to refund the cost of shipping (which btw I didn't ask him to do) and then claimed that he did but I never got any btc in my account. I can't tell if the guy is honest and stupid as fuck or just out to fuck people. I'm not sure which one I'd prefer him to be either.I almost forgot I can get good dope if I spend 45 minutes driving, meeting up with my connect, shooting the shit with him and then driving home all in under a hour.  And it's cheaper then 90% of the dope on here and right up there with Deluxe Delivery and Dragon Cove.

I might need to go back to the old fashion way. I only started buying dope on here recently because my friend who'd pick it up for us went to rehab and i didn't want to tempt him, well he gave me his number when he got out of rehab this week and deleted it from his phone so I met the dude finally.  I got to say I wasn't sure how much better the stuff on here was going to be than what I get IRL but for the most part it's cost almost twice as much and not felt as clean. I guess I got better shit than I thought.

That's weird.  When I got my sample, there wasn't any diphenhydramine feeling to it.  I can tell, because sometime I will lace my own dope with diphen, to decrease the itch..  And InDub's shit was clear of it.

It did hit the respiratory system a bit harder then I thought it would.  Shit happens.  I'm glad I slept on putting in another order from him. 
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 18, 2013, 04:31 pm
I'll have my mail in 30 min repsus6. Will update then. I don't know if anything is gonna be in there though. I fucking hope
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 18, 2013, 04:50 pm
Got mine today via letter-mail. It was post marked on the 14th, so I would really hope all you guys that ordered express and priority will get your today too. I think the quality is definitely much lower than the samples that were sent out also, not to mention my 1/2 g was about 100mg's short.  :-\ I'm not so sure I'll be a returning customer unless the shipping time(I ordered Monday) and either quality or price change.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 18, 2013, 04:59 pm
Keep me posted. Sucks about the quality. Hopefully it'll be enough for me.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 18, 2013, 05:04 pm
Doesn't look like I got anything in the mail at all. Maybe the mail man is running a bit behind. But I doubt it
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 18, 2013, 05:15 pm
The texture of the powder is definitely different, there were way more solid looking pieces in the sample I got. This stuff is powdery as all hell. The color is a little different, I think it's a much lighter white than the last stuff. I definitely think that this shit is cut to shreds. I did a 100mg shot to start(about 3 times as much as I did when I got my sample,) and I got no rush, and barely felt a buzz. I doubled up a half hour later and still got no rush, but I do feel a slight H buzz. The packaging was pretty shitty too. From the outside, it looked and felt like a normal letter, but when I opened what the stuff was sealed in, powder was dropping out all over my desk and I had to scrape it all into one pile, getting all kinds of dust and shit mixed in with it in the process. Also, like I said, my order was around 100mg's short. I have a pretty good scale that measures down to a .1 which I used rather than my kind of unpredictable milligram scale, and it only weighed .4. Overall I'm kind of disappointed.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: junkiebug on March 18, 2013, 05:26 pm
Just got my order of 2 100mg samples. I weighed one of the bags at 100mg and there was still about 50mg stuck to the bag. I split the bag into 2 lines and snorted it. Starting to feel it now. I'll update in a little bit...

Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 18, 2013, 05:35 pm
again i got fucking nothing. I'm so fucking pissed.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 18, 2013, 05:38 pm
again i got fucking nothing. I'm so fucking pissed.

Did you order priority?
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 18, 2013, 05:47 pm
I ordered priortity last fucking monday. They're should be no reason it's not here now. Regardless if he sent it priority or not.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 18, 2013, 05:50 pm
Shit! Sorry to hear infamous! I'll update whether or not I get mine when the fucking mailman gets here.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DivineMomentsofTruth on March 18, 2013, 05:54 pm
I just want to update and say that Indub did refund my money for express yesterday.
I apologize Indub, thank you for sticking to your word.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 18, 2013, 06:02 pm
I ordered priortity last fucking monday. They're should be no reason it's not here now. Regardless if he sent it priority or not.

Damn, that's fucked up, I definitely shouldn't have gotten my order before you did. Like I said, I ordered standard shipping on Monday, marked 'in transit' on Tuesday, and it was postmarked on Thursday. Seems like maybe he is having bigger issues with express/priority. I don't know what to think about this. The word "clusterfuck" comes to mind...
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 18, 2013, 06:36 pm
Well that actually makes me feel like maybe it will be here tommorow. We have to have everything shipped to a bigger post office before its divided up to the smaller ones. So it could account for a day lag. And we did seem to order it the same time. Maybe he just shipped  my standard on accident
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 18, 2013, 07:20 pm
If he shipped yours standard by mistake then that very well might be the case, because I tend to get everything really fast, especially if it gets shipped right from a major city. My 2 or 3 express packs got here overnight, and I've NEVER had priority take more than 2 days, even during the holidays. I'm actually surprised I didn't get this on Saturday, even lettermail that comes from a big city has come to me in 2-3 days before. Someone was saying that he sent his shit out at the very last minute on Thursday.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: jmoney113 on March 18, 2013, 07:24 pm
Well, it seems like indub is dropping the ball here now. I placed an order with him prior to placing the other 3 I had, 1 of which was international. All of those came before indub's. I'm assuming he closed all of his listings due to him being swamped with orders.

I'll keep you guys posted on the MDMA I should hopefully be receiving.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 18, 2013, 07:29 pm
I just sent him a message...

"I was a little disappointed about the weight(short 100mg's) and quality of my order as it compared to the sample I received. Because of that, I left a 4/5 rating. If you would be willing to give me a few dollars back, I would definitely raise my rating to a 5/5. I'm sorry I had to hurt your feedback, but in the best interest of the buyers out there, I felt like I had no choice. Let me know..."

We'll see how it goes....
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 18, 2013, 07:30 pm
I ordered March 8 priority and nothing still. Todays mail came. I'm still with you guys.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 18, 2013, 07:40 pm
I ordered March 8 priority and nothing still. Todays mail came. I'm still with you guys.

Holy shit, that's ridiculous... Did you order one of his very first free(+ shipping) samples? Maybe he's giving more attention to the people who ordered from him right of the bat when he was a brand new vendor...

EDIT: Saw this on his vendor page...

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3/18/2013 1:08 EST

I have gotten my message count down to 90. For those of you who haven't been responded to, please give me a moment to get these orders in the mail and I will be back directly. Thanks!


3/18/2013

Good Day SR Community,

I see that I have around 200 messages to answer this morning that were received over the weekend. I will begin the day by answering these messages. At 1pm est I will be making a trip to the postal service to drop off this weekends order and all of the items that need to be reshipped. I will be answering the messages in the order in which they are received, meaning oldest messages will be answered first. As I will be in bulk reply mode, I will not see any newer messages until I have answered all of the older messages, so please bear with me.

Just FYI everyone, I HAVE POSTED CLEARLY ON MY VENDOR PAGE AND ELSEWHERE THAT I WILL NOT BE WORKING ON WEEKENDS. I did not intentionally ignore any of your messages, I just was not available enough to get to them.

I will not be listing any products until I have finished responding to all of the messages that I have.

Thank you all for your support.
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This still doesn't address the discrepancy between the quality of his samples and his bigger listings, which I'd really like an explanation/apology for. I'm not holding my breath though.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 18, 2013, 07:52 pm
I ordered March 8 priority and nothing still. Todays mail came. I'm still with you guys.

Holy shit, that's ridiculous... Did you order one of his very first free(+ shipping) samples? Maybe he's giving more attention to the people who ordered from him right of the bat when he was a brand new vendor...
I was going to get the free one but was short 0.01 by the time I put a deposit in he had just listed the 100mg one for cheap. So I got some of those. He messaged me today saying to let him know when I get it he put extras in, which makes me think he sent it today? I'm okay and not freaking out, I'll just be happy with something. But he does send vagueish messages. I just think this person is over whelmed with orders?
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 18, 2013, 07:57 pm
I ordered March 8 priority and nothing still. Todays mail came. I'm still with you guys.

Holy shit, that's ridiculous... Did you order one of his very first free(+ shipping) samples? Maybe he's giving more attention to the people who ordered from him right of the bat when he was a brand new vendor...
I was going to get the free one but was short 0.01 by the time I put a deposit in he had just listed the 100mg one for cheap. So I got some of those. He messaged me today saying to let him know when I get it he put extras in, which makes me think he sent it today? I'm okay and not freaking out, I'll just be happy with something. But he does send vagueish messages. I just think this person is over whelmed with orders?

He definitely does appear to be swamped(see my edit above,) but I still want to hear what he has to say about the quality of his dope going way down after he sent out all his samples to be reviewed.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 18, 2013, 08:06 pm
Yeah, I totally get that. I would like him/her to come out and say "Hey, I'm pretty behind and I sent out your order way later than you expected" instead of nothing.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on March 18, 2013, 08:11 pm
Hey there o/

I'm the guy that started this thread (on Feb 25th) and my ordered sample of #4 didn't arrive by now ... what I got back was my money on March 7th -- there's kind of an Atlantic between him and me I think but I assume that I'm one of those guys their addresses were lost by him having his difficulties operating SR business at the beginning :-|

Maybe I'll send him another message asking if my order was send or slipped his mind/doing -- 'cause it sounds like his stuff is worth testing ... never had #4 before (#3's dominant in the EU) and I was and at root still am _really_ looking forward doin' it /O\

... nice to read anyway that others got their goodies \o/

Have a nice week you all o/
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 18, 2013, 08:24 pm
Alright kids. My mail FINALLY came and my package was in with the rest of the mail in a Priority envelope. I looked for the post mark on it but there wasn't one. Anyway, as I said before, I ordered 4 samples because I didn't have enough money to order the half gram. My husband and I did some right away and we got the pure shit (awesome!!). I was really worried we were going to get crap but it is the exact same stuff that we got when we ordered the first sample. I'm really happy that I was short a couple of dollars. I'm going to go leave my feedback which will be a 3/5 due to shipping times and poor communication. This is the first time I've EVER left any vendor less than a 5/5. I hope everyone else gets there shit soon. I don't know what I'm going to do with all of my time now that I won't be sitting here trashing the guy every chance I get! I REALLY hope that everyone else gets their shit tomorrow!

infamous: I wish I could share with you! I would because you've been right by my side bitching and feeling sick the whole time I was!!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 18, 2013, 08:44 pm
Alright kids. My mail FINALLY came and my package was in with the rest of the mail in a Priority envelope. I looked for the post mark on it but there wasn't one. Anyway, as I said before, I ordered 4 samples because I didn't have enough money to order the half gram. My husband and I did some right away and we got the pure shit (awesome!!). I was really worried we were going to get crap but it is the exact same stuff that we got when we ordered the first sample. I'm really happy that I was short a couple of dollars. I'm going to go leave my feedback which will be a 3/5 due to shipping times and poor communication. This is the first time I've EVER left any vendor less than a 5/5. I hope everyone else gets there shit soon. I don't know what I'm going to do with all of my time now that I won't be sitting here trashing the guy every chance I get! I REALLY hope that everyone else gets their shit tomorrow!

infamous: I wish I could share with you! I would because you've been right by my side bitching and feeling sick the whole time I was!!

Damn you are lucky, I've already gone through more than half my shit and I'm barely buzzed. I'm....sigh....disappointed.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 18, 2013, 08:49 pm
Aww! I'm sorry! I'd share with everyone if I could!! But, even if I could and did there's so many of us that no one would get a buzz!  :o
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 18, 2013, 10:38 pm
I appreciate the thought Repus6. Luckily I got ahold of my guy in chicago (where i use to live) and he's sending me a gram with express. So If it comes tommorow or not I should be good. I'm glad you got your shit though. !
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: terryakichicken on March 18, 2013, 10:39 pm
Hello everyone, wanted to come on and give everyone my situation which isnt much better than any of yours lol. So I ordered 2 grams of molly and 1/2g of H. My order was placed on tuesday and marked in transit within a few hours. I ordered express which he did not ship until thursday. When I got my package it only contained the 1/2g of heroin! Well I figured hey shit happens he probably just messed something up. So I messaged him friday and got a response back pretty quick that answered nothing. Was just "No problem." So I messaged him again asking what was up since I was still in the dark. That message sat all weekend, when I saw that he had changed his vendor page today after not receiving I decided to message him again asking him whats up with it. He then replied back that he would send me 2.5 grams and needed an address. That was all! No details about why nothing was in order or anything.

Now about the quality of what I have gotten from him, his heroin..... Wow was I surprised at how crushed and powdery it was in general. I had no chunks or anything in my "500mg" I got. He was short by about 60mg. I have absolutely 0 tolerance to opiates at the moment and 60mg up the nose did nothing to me. I had no reaction at all to this so I knew it was probably insanly cut up. I ended up doing about 200mg total for what I would compare to a 15mg hydrocodone high. I would advise people to stay clear of him. Out of over 50+ buys and over 15k spent on SR this is some of the worst customer service I have run across.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 19, 2013, 12:22 am
He replied with this:

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"You know that any problems that you have, I will take care of. I should have another (better) 100 grams in a couple of days. Would you prefer that I give you a discounted price on that once it comes in? I have told my connect of the feedback that I have been getting about the product and they have reassured me that this batch was an anomaly. Let me know what you want me to do."
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I suggested a refund between 10 and 20 USD worth of coin with a promise from me that if his feedback gets better, I'll buy from him again at full price. I don't think that's unreasonable, but if anybody does, feel free to chime in.

EDIT: He refunded me like 13 USD, so if the reviews get better, I'll definitely follow through with my promise.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: junkiebug on March 19, 2013, 01:01 am
I ordered 200mg. It arrived today after 5 days of "in transit" time. I actually got hooked up with about 250-300mg. I'm new to heroin, but this stuff seemed like average quality. You could say I'm like a once a week opiate user, usually pills. I snorted all of it within an hour and caught a good buzz, and I'm still feeling it 6 hours later. I would say my order was equal to about 60-70mg of oxy. I feel like I got my money worth for $37.00. One bag was light-colored and all powder, and the other bag was a little darker and had some chunks. I'm thinking the second bag wasn't stomped on as much.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: czxtvr on March 19, 2013, 01:01 am
NEVER FE if you can help it...You just can't trust vendors on SR. You never know when they'll turn on you and run off with your hard earned coins.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: laplace on March 19, 2013, 01:47 am
You never know when they'll turn on you and run off with your hard earned coins.
Yeah, or ship you absolute garbage and claim 'your tolerance must be high'.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: rtshredder on March 19, 2013, 02:00 am
It sounds like some people are getting better product than others. I know I got absolute garbage.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 19, 2013, 03:00 am
It sounds like some people are getting better product than others. I know I got absolute garbage.

Yup. I did the whole 400mg's that I got and I'm not even high anymore. For #4, that's not so good....
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: laplace on March 19, 2013, 07:03 pm
It sounds like some people are getting better product than others. I know I got absolute garbage.
Bingo! It's probably happening a lot more than we think.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 19, 2013, 07:48 pm
Well, still haven't gotten anything. I'll chalk it up to lost in the mail.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 19, 2013, 07:51 pm
Still haven't got anything. Its been 8 days , priority mail. Resolve will happen in three days. I hate to use it, but it may be a first
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 19, 2013, 08:00 pm
I too ordered priority. 10 days ago, resolve is available but I'll wait until he/she responds. Yesterday they did tell me if it doesn't arrive today to message them.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Kikotoby on March 19, 2013, 08:47 pm
This  guy is nice th e sample seemed ok  but his shiipping is so bad that i will never do it again..not worth the hassle.. I ordered some 200 mlgms of dope and its been 9 days and nothing..Im sick of this.. going back to repurable dealers..
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: fuckyou777 on March 19, 2013, 10:02 pm
i dont even think some of us are getting better/worse dope. its just our different tollerance levels. the dope sucks. period. its powdered/pulverized because a moron cut this shit and didnt even have the decentcey to rerock it. but its what ever. STAY AWAY. for the time being. the vendor like ive said before is pretty legit...seemingly that is(dont know who made that cut)

Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on March 19, 2013, 10:39 pm
my #4 sample - ordered: February 26, 2013

have not got it yet, if i were an addict, i'd be majorly pissed off by now
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: dr gonzo on March 19, 2013, 11:41 pm
Product was profoundly disappointing. IV'ed .5 gram over a 24 hour period and it barely brought me out of being sick. It even gave me headaches at times. Proceed with caution my friends.
Got some BTH relief from my boy purest to get me over the hump until I place my order with Marlo, looking forward to getting my hands on some reportedly decent #4. Safe travels friends.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: jmoney113 on March 19, 2013, 11:55 pm
So day 7 of domestic shipping, and I'm a little irritated that it still hasn't arrived. Which is why I proceeded to politely message indub for a refund, since the coins in escrow could be used to get my Molly faster, and already tested at a great quality.

Hope to all those sick from withdrawals get their products sometime in the future. Sounds like a bad situation to be in.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 20, 2013, 05:48 pm
i dont even think some of us are getting better/worse dope. its just our different tollerance levels. the dope sucks. period. its powdered/pulverized because a moron cut this shit and didnt even have the decentcey to rerock it. but its what ever. STAY AWAY. for the time being. the vendor like ive said before is pretty legit...seemingly that is(dont know who made that cut)

People definitely are getting better/worse dope. The quality of my sample blew the quality of my 1/2 G out of the water.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 20, 2013, 06:42 pm
Still nothing.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on March 20, 2013, 06:51 pm
Getting overwhelmed with orders, having mediocre product, poor communication, and other small mix ups are all excusable for a new vendor in my eyes. Selling on SR would be a bitch, especially selling something like heroin where you get a high volume of small orders. However sending good stuff for samples and shit for larger orders is just being a sketchy cunt. Haven't received my gram yet but at this point in time I'm pretty much already writing it off as a loss, I don't want to do some shitty heroin.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 20, 2013, 06:57 pm
Getting overwhelmed with orders, having mediocre product, poor communication, and other small mix ups are all excusable for a new vendor in my eyes. Selling on SR would be a bitch, especially selling something like heroin where you get a high volume of small orders. However sending good stuff for samples and shit for larger orders is just being a sketchy cunt. Haven't received my gram yet but at this point in time I'm pretty much already writing it off as a loss, I don't want to do some shitty heroin.
This is sorta how I feel.Also it's been "In Transit" since March 9. I'm going to Resolve tomorrow. Since I don't want a auto finalize on my record and SR keeps sending me reminders.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: jmoney113 on March 20, 2013, 07:09 pm
Getting overwhelmed with orders, having mediocre product, poor communication, and other small mix ups are all excusable for a new vendor in my eyes. Selling on SR would be a bitch, especially selling something like heroin where you get a high volume of small orders. However sending good stuff for samples and shit for larger orders is just being a sketchy cunt. Haven't received my gram yet but at this point in time I'm pretty much already writing it off as a loss, I don't want to do some shitty heroin.
I agree completely and have been sympathizing with indub for those same reasons, but this to me is getting a little out of hand. Product has been listed as in transit for 7 days now which is unacceptable. I've never had a product take longer than 6 days including international. I politely asked indub for a refund so we'll see how that goes.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 20, 2013, 07:46 pm
Man, I really feel bad for you guys. I'm kind of an idiot though,  because I should have asked for a bigger refund. The shit that I got probably had 2 east coast stamps worth of dope(if that) and I could have been high as fuck for an entire day if I spent my money elsewhere. Now I ordered from someone else when I was really going to wait a little while to get more dope because I was hoping to get a rush so badly, and was SOO disappointed when it finally came. IDK what the fuck is going on with this dude.

And @ potatoConnoisseur, this is worse than shitty heroin.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Kikotoby on March 20, 2013, 09:27 pm
The worst shipping i have come across on the SR.. this guy is terrible  i have been waiting for stuff i FE ,ed on good faith not cause i had to but because i felt that maybe he was new and needed a little hand..Havnt seen my package for almost 2 weekss!.. Never again..I wouldnt buy from this guy if he paid me..!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 21, 2013, 03:19 pm
Why are so many people FE. Never never never FE unless you have personally bought from the person before and trust them. I wouldn't even do it then. Just cause its over the internet doesn't mean these people are dealers. Dealers are usually sketchy at best. Luckily I didn't Fe , and it looks like I'll be resolving soon. I asked for a refund, but have not heard anything yet.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: jmoney113 on March 21, 2013, 04:21 pm
Alright I'm tired of this fucking shit. Indub, if you can't handle the orders you have then you shouldn't be fucking vending on SR. My product has been in transit for 8 days now. Is it really that hard to ship 500mg of MDMA? What the fuck dude. Gimme my damn refund so I can spend my money elsewhere.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ArmTrax on March 21, 2013, 07:48 pm
I am in the same situation. I requested a sample, which was promptly shipped, took about 4 days. This, however, is on day 8 and I have not got anything from him.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 21, 2013, 07:57 pm
In transit since March 9th. I paid priority. So I'm finally giving up. Going to ask for a refund.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on March 21, 2013, 08:00 pm
It's been 24 days since i ordered my samples...

I still don't have them.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 21, 2013, 08:28 pm
Ya been intransit since March 11. Paid for priority. Got nothing. I even explained to him that I was sick when I ordered it, which is what really pisses me off, we dope people are suppose to stick together. I've already ordered a half gram from my other guy and its got here. So I think he just flat out didn't ship it. I'm not going to resolve quite yet, I asked him for a refund. (I sent my shipping money separately so lets see if I get that back) If he refunds all my money I'll finalize and give him a 5 out of 5 cause that way I know he was trying. If he gives me one penny less I'm going to report him. I have proof I sent him money for shipping (through messages and transactions) plus I'm not the only person getting fucked. I feel like he is trying to make a quick buck by fucking some people, while still making him look like he's an acceptable dealer by being good to others.

I know delivery problems happen, but I also know if another dealer has no problem getting my shit to me, even though I ordered from him SIX days after, the problem is with the dealer not USPS.

So tomorrow if some of you wanna sign a petition and report the dealer I may be starting one
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Cotchept on March 21, 2013, 10:01 pm
Damn, lot's of negative reviews. My sample has also been in transit for 7 days and still nothing. This has been the longest anything from SR has taken to get to me. Starting to regret my order.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: incognito22 on March 21, 2013, 10:02 pm
I bought an MDMA sample and it still hasnt' come yet.  tomorrow is my resolve date...which will happen before my mail arrives.  i emailed him a couple days ago and he said its on its way.  should i click resolve or go ahead and finalize.  ive never had an item come to this before.  what would you guys do for a $12 item.  i just dont get why you would mark it in transit when its not. 
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on March 21, 2013, 10:11 pm
Resolve, then ask for more time.

Do not finalize until you are happy with the product.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 21, 2013, 10:12 pm
To be honest I don't know what the resolve button does. Plus I also want my money back from shipping. I don't really care though if its 12 dollars or 1200 dollars, I don't like people fucking with my money. If I trust you enough to buy from you on here then I expect whatever I bought. I'm not about giving free money. I want him to just give me my refund, then I'll give him a 5 out of 5 and chalk it up to USPS. However, if he can't even answer me , like he's not now, I will do what ever I can to report him. I can't fucking stand to be ignored.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on March 21, 2013, 10:15 pm
Hitting the Resolve button will take the order into the resolution center where you can ask for a refund of whatever percentage or extend delivery date by however long you ask.

The idea is to come to a mutually satisfactory resolution that you are both happy to take. Ideally you want what you paid for, but sometimes shit happens and it doesn't work out.

Admin may also step in and review all available evidence, then make a decision for the both of you.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 21, 2013, 10:30 pm
I bought an MDMA sample and it still hasnt' come yet.  tomorrow is my resolve date...which will happen before my mail arrives.  i emailed him a couple days ago and he said its on its way.  should i click resolve or go ahead and finalize.  ive never had an item come to this before.  what would you guys do for a $12 item.  i just dont get why you would mark it in transit when its not.

If it were me, I'd do "Resolve" just because of the principle of the matter. Ask SR support to extend the deadline for a day or two, and if it still doesn't come, ask for a refund.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 21, 2013, 11:15 pm
I asked for a 50% refund. I've messaged the guy and told him I was going to resolve it unless he had a better idea. But he never read the message. So whatever, I'm not going to give him a shit review I just want it to arrive or some money back.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: toolfan on March 21, 2013, 11:41 pm
He marked my order in transit March 15.I haven't got anything.I thought this guy was just overwhelmed in the beginning now it is obvious he is just fucked up.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ArmTrax on March 22, 2013, 01:24 am
      If you FE'd the chances of getting money, at least all of it, are slim to none. Your best hope is that the vendor eventually ships you what you ordered. The guy is super nice to deal with. He sent me a sample on the promise that I would send him money in a couple days. When the couple days came I decided to order a gram from him because the reviews on this thread, to that point, indicated that he had decent dope, people were getting it, and the price was good. Him being nice and cool is great, but business is business, and he needs to handle his better.

      When I ordered the gram, he told me not to worry about paying him back for the sample, and marked the gram in transit very quickly, the sample also came super fast. The quality of the sample was so so, but hard to gauge honestly; I usually IV, but I snorted this because I didn't have any rigs with me. I felt it, which told me that it was at least half way decent because it was only 100mg, plus I did it on top of about 3mg of suboxone I had taken that morning. So at the price it was/is a good deal. And who knows, it might be in my mail box tomorrow, but I am not counting on it.

      This is about the third time this has happened when I have been involved; where a vendor takes a bunch of orders and fails to ship them to all or at least most of his customers. Invariably,  some customers FE, while the smart ones stay in escrow, but that still sucks because all our money was tied up for days or weeks. I am sure similar things happen all the time.

      This is an issue that affects the image of SR, and although it is not the fault of SR, and entirely the fault of the vendor, Silk Road needs an administrative function whereby they can close the escrow and return the money to the customers. The vendor in situations such as this is guilty of either fraud or incompetence, I cannot comprehend any scenario where the vendor does not know that they are short on product to meet the orders.

      I have often heard it said that in situations such as this that many people suspect that the vendor makes a bunch of listings, hopes for a lot of them to FE, and use that money to go re-up and just leave everyone waiting. I am not saying that this is the case here, but obviously something is going on. If the vendor here had product on-hand at time of our orders, why has it not been shipped? He has been online, he has responded to my messages. However, he ignores and does not answer my inquiries regarding when/if he shipped the product. I suspect in many cases that the vendor is guilty or using too much of his own product and therefore falls short that way.

I don't know whats going on. I just know some guy said he had something, we all said we wanted some, and then he can't deliver on the goods to almost all of us. Strange goings on here.

Frustration!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 22, 2013, 12:58 pm
I placed another order with him  :-[ He sent me a message telling me all about how concerned he was for my last order and that on my next order he would really hook it up AND upgrade me to Express shipping. I put the order in last night before bed and sent him a message that if he does everything he promised on this order, I'd give him good ratings and he would have a long time customer. I'd better get my dope by tomorrow though god dammit.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: powr on March 22, 2013, 01:26 pm
I seem to be the exception to the rule here.... but i put in an order for 2x500mg powder heroin on a Saturday night.  It was shipped out Monday morning express as I had paid for and I got it on Tuesday.  Seems like he just bit off far more than he can chew... too many small sample orders etc. to get out in a timely fashion.  Anyway just posting my own personal experience.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Qthello on March 22, 2013, 02:25 pm
I know you guys are bummed for a shitty product/delivery. I have been defending him often, because he was straight up with me on my sample when he first started a month ago. Having said that, go take a look at how many transactions he has done. In a month he has done more than a lot of vendors have done in a year.

He also posted on the newb thread when he first offered the samples, So everyone stuck on nub status and a very small amount of coin bum rushed him with orders. I stand by him still. And perhaps I may get more at some point. Boy is not my preferred substance of choice. So yea, there's that.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 22, 2013, 04:29 pm
Repsus6 you ordered again lol.? I still am waiting for my first fucking order.. If you get your second by tommorow, I'm gonna be so upset
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: infamous on March 22, 2013, 04:33 pm
again I got nothing today
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 22, 2013, 04:48 pm
Repsus6 you ordered again lol.? I still am waiting for my first fucking order.. If you get your second by tommorow, I'm gonna be so upset
Haha, for real. Also I too will most likely get nothing today. I've already given up.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 22, 2013, 05:22 pm
I'm an idiot. I regret putting another order in with him now since it is still processing. I doubt I'll get my shit tomorrow. That's shitty that you guys still have nothing. Both of your orders should have been to you guys by now.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: IvanD on March 23, 2013, 07:48 am
Same story..I ordered the $11 sample and it never showed. I msg'd him and then finalized after he assured me it would be "made right". I wouldn't go into resolution over such a small amount anyway. That order never arrived.

I wanted his other cheap listings so i ordered 2g with express on monday 3/11. The order was marked in transit a few hours later. I began messaging him when it became late that friday. He last responded the following monday 3/18. I am now in resolution and he still refuses to respond.

I have no idea how people see in his feedback the non-deliveries and shitty gear but still order. his rating high because he sent lots of samples on the cheap and got lots of 5/5's at first. Also much of his feedback is too over the top.. I believe, like so many vendors, he has multiple accounts to bump his own score and dilute the real feedback as the shit begins.

BOTTOM LINE.. STOP ORDERING!!!!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 23, 2013, 03:35 pm
....BOTTOM LINE.. STOP ORDERING!!!!

Yea, I agree.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: saranottegan on March 23, 2013, 03:55 pm
I initially asked him to set up a half gram order for me. The day before I received it, he messaged and said he'd accidentally sent mdma and to keep it. He would reship the H priority that Saturday. That Sunday, I decided I'd just go ahead and order 4 more 100mg "samples" to be sent priority. I let him know that Friday that I still hadn't received nearly a gram of H. That Saturday, he overnighted me what was about 1.5 grams of really nice H. His communication with me has been great. Now if only I could find a way to unload this mdma. I've never been a big fan of it...
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: jmoney113 on March 23, 2013, 05:23 pm
Ok, so about 11 days after my MDMA samples were marked in transit, they arrived. Postage was marked for 2 days ago, but I'll let it slide this time, and I'm just happy it arrived overall. Strange thing is, seller's location is very near to me, but it's a shame the shipping took so long.

Packaging is solid, envelope looks professional and completely ordinary. At first when I opened and grabbed my mail, I was disappointed because I didn't think the product was there until I took a closer look. Stealth isn't as impressive as claimed on the forums. It was easily found after opening the package, but color barrier and MBB would obviously take care of customs or K9.

Product is powdered, and looks to be on the slightly heavy side of 150mg. Very white with a very slight anise smell. Not nearly as pronounced and MrAnonymousX's MDMA, but definitely detectable. Although it isn't a deal breaker, I feel completely powdered molly is generally unnecessary. Most customers want to see some crystalline structure to know what we're getting is the real deal, as was the case with MrA, and there is no sacrifice in stealth either.

I may take the product later tonight in which case I'll provide an update on quality, but just wanted to let you all know that I did receive my product to those that care.

**I hope this is his molly, after I heard he sent some people H instead of MDMA, it has me a little uneasy... He's claiming to have brown sand on his page but this is all white... hmmm
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: toolfan on March 23, 2013, 06:36 pm
**I hope this is his molly, after I heard he sent some people H instead of MDMA, it has me a little uneasy... He's claiming to have brown sand on his page but this is all white... hmmm
I finally got both samples.The H was gray/silver.The mdma is brown. Now it sounds like his H has changed to weak shit,so who knows with this guy he is very flakey.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 23, 2013, 07:12 pm
**I hope this is his molly, after I heard he sent some people H instead of MDMA, it has me a little uneasy... He's claiming to have brown sand on his page but this is all white... hmmm
I finally got both samples.The H was gray/silver.The mdma is brown. Now it sounds like his H has changed to weak shit,so who knows with this guy he is very flakey.
Smell it. If it has a vinegar smell it's H.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ondine on March 23, 2013, 08:57 pm
7 days and still nothing, and all this bad news about his product has demolished my confidence. Glad I didn't FE on my gram..
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Cotchept on March 23, 2013, 11:01 pm
My sample finally came. It took way too long to get here. Over 10 days and what's funny is that is  was sent from the next county over. Won't be able to try it until Wednesday so I can't comment on the quality. The stealth was decent enough but the fact that it took forever to get here means I will not be ordering from indub anytime soon.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: cindylove on March 25, 2013, 03:42 am
This guy is a fucking scammer. i don't know why people keep leavening 5/5 & 4/5 feedback for him even though he takes forever to shit and ships shit product. Everyone who has recent feedback for him should change it to 1/5 and write Scammer. This is fucking ridiculous.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on March 25, 2013, 03:59 am
Finally got my gram of H. I don't have a lot of experience with heroin, I did around 175 mg snorted over three hours or so last night, effects were definitely there but not too pronounced. Today has been one major headache, horrible day after effects I've never gotten from H before  but like I said I haven't done a lot. I have a gram from dragoncove on the way so I'll be able to compare to some good stuff soon.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 25, 2013, 07:59 pm
So I sent a resolution refund but he said to give it a few days cause he just shipped it. So it seems like after all this time he never shipped until I asked for a refund. He also said he's giving me back shipping after I finalize.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 25, 2013, 08:15 pm
He's so awesome (sarcasm). I still have nothing. I sent him a message today asking him if he upgraded my shipping to Express like he said he was going to. No response and still no dope in the mail today. That fucker probably hasn't even mailed it out yet. I won't be ordering from him again.... For real this time.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: toolfan on March 26, 2013, 01:01 pm
Latest on Indubs page:  3/25/2013
Greetings! I'm Sara, and I will be helping Indubitably with the Customer Service-side of the operation so that he can concentrate on getting your orders out to you! We hope that this will streamline the process and cut out any confusion.


How would you like to win a gram of Heroin or MDMA (winner's choice)?! Please be on the look-out for the upcoming Customer Appreciation Lottery! We will be offering a daily drawing for a limited time and then will move to twice a week. All you have to do is leave a 5/5 review on your purchase! Previous customers will be eligible to enter the free drawing. Look for more details to follow soon!


How about just shipping out what we fuckin ordered? Just placing an order is like entering a lottery!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 26, 2013, 01:12 pm

How about just shipping out what we fuckin ordered? Just placing an order is like entering a lottery!

+1 for making me laugh when I'm in such a shitty mood.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: misteryuck on March 27, 2013, 04:23 am
believe it or not I got a gram of something that is at least largely mdma. 2 little 1/2g nickel bags full of white powdered slightly anise smelling mostly water soluble substance that give the desired effects if you do a little extra.
The stealth was great. Probably the best domestic i've seen. printed labels and moisture barrier bag. Shipping was quite slow, but I had all but given up on this pack, and it showed, and its real, and its right, so I can't complain much. Sounds like a lot of drama around this vendor. Maybe I was one of the lucky ones. I have nothing bad to say about indubitably. many thanks.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: cindylove on March 27, 2013, 07:41 am
Latest on Indubs page:  3/25/2013
Greetings! I'm Sara, and I will be helping Indubitably with the Customer Service-side of the operation so that he can concentrate on getting your orders out to you! We hope that this will streamline the process and cut out any confusion.


How would you like to win a gram of Heroin or MDMA (winner's choice)?! Please be on the look-out for the upcoming Customer Appreciation Lottery! We will be offering a daily drawing for a limited time and then will move to twice a week. All you have to do is leave a 5/5 review on your purchase! Previous customers will be eligible to enter the free drawing. Look for more details to follow soon!


How about just shipping out what we fuckin ordered? Just placing an order is like entering a lottery!

This is a fucking scam. He's trying to fix his feedback score by doing nothing. Never ordering from him again is not enough. You all need to change your feedback to 1/5 such that no one will be fooled by him again. This is fucking ridiculous.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on March 27, 2013, 08:26 am
This is a fucking scam. He's trying to fix his feedback score by doing nothing. Never ordering from him again is not enough. You all need to change your feedback to 1/5 such that no one will be fooled by him again. This is fucking ridiculous.

Agreed.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 27, 2013, 01:14 pm
This is a fucking scam. He's trying to fix his feedback score by doing nothing. Never ordering from him again is not enough. You all need to change your feedback to 1/5 such that no one will be fooled by him again. This is fucking ridiculous.

Agreed.

I agree as well. We all should go back and change our feedback. There are enough people on this thread to drastically change his rating if we all went back and changed our feedback.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: monrovia on March 27, 2013, 09:02 pm
This is a fucking scam. He's trying to fix his feedback score by doing nothing. Never ordering from him again is not enough. You all need to change your feedback to 1/5 such that no one will be fooled by him again. This is fucking ridiculous.

Agreed.

I agree as well. We all should go back and change our feedback. There are enough people on this thread to drastically change his rating if we all went back and changed our feedback.

I agree too. I broke the deal I had with indub and changed my feedback to a 1/5. I did this because the buyers who don't come to the forums deserve to have feedback that will reflect the quality of the product and the transaction. It's only fair. This guy should not be allowed to scam anymore.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on March 27, 2013, 11:16 pm
More bullshit excuses from Indubitably:

"Due to the number of comments made about the quality of the h that I was providing, I have decided to pull the listings until a better quality product is in hand. I expect that to be early tomorrow morning (3/27/2013) but it is entirely out of my control. As soon as it does arrive, I will be completing the orders made over the weekend and yesterday. If anyone who has ordered either of these days wants their order to be cancelled, please notify me as soon as possible."

Entirely out of his control? This vendor has no control over the stock he sells? DONT FUCKING VEND THEN YOU FUCKING MORON. I don't give a fuck anymore if these 1.5 month old samples ever arrive, they are going straight down the toilet regardless after reading all the fucked up reviews of this shit product. Indubitably - you don't deserve to be able to vend from SR with your appalling work ethics, you send out bad dope to your customers without a care in the world if any of them happen to OD on it, you read customers messages and selectively choose who to and who not to respond to. You flat-out LIE to people saying "The package was sent" when you know full well that is complete shit.

Just please do us all a favor and FUCK OFF.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 27, 2013, 11:43 pm
I'm still waiting on my order that I placed last Thurs. I'm going to wait for that to arrive then change my previous feedback to 1/5 and give him a 1/5 when I release the funds on this order. I'm waiting for this order to get here first so he doesn't try anything fucked up. I don't trust the guy. At first, I thought he was just overwhelmed but he has made it very obvious that he doesn't give a shit about what he is doing or his customers.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 28, 2013, 12:35 am
Does it matter if it's 1/5 or 4/5? I think anything but a 5/5 fucks their ... I gave Indub a 4/5 and refused a offer to re-ship with shipping refunded. I knew I was never going to get it. He told me it was shipped 4 different times and every time it seemed like a different day. He should retire.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: seeyallnextyear on March 28, 2013, 12:47 am
Warning!!!  Do not buy from this fucktard.  Don't even consider it.  Honestly, I am beginning to lose a bit of respect for the road due to the fact they haven't banned him.  No telling how many complaints they have gotten so far!!  I've had to complain about him too. 

Honestly, it's time to quit posting about it and just send all grievances to Support.  This obviously isn't doing any good.  So let's just concentrate on getting his ass out of here.  Out of site, out of mind.

SYNY
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DivineMomentsofTruth on March 28, 2013, 09:23 am
I'm going to go back and change my rating. But i;m giving him a 3/5 because with me personally that's what he deserves.
I ordered express because he told me it'd go out the next day, however it went out 2 days after that and took 4 days to get to me total. I could have walked to the return address quicker.
I got 1 gram of "heroin" and it weighed 1.0 on the dot however after doing half a gram up my nose and not really feeling anything I did a couple 30mg roxies and a 8mg dilly then went to work. When I got home from work I think I gave it to someone...who knows...actually fuck it he gets a 2/5 because he didn't fuck me over quite as bad as you guys but he sent me 900mg of domins with 100mg of already heavily cut dope.

Fuck this dude...and sarah fuck you too ya cunt
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fallkniven on March 28, 2013, 09:40 pm
Who ever left the following feedback can do as Anthrax so eloquently put it and - "Suck my motherfuckin' dick!" - At least you fucking got something - a lot of us have been fucked over completely.

"5 of 5 - Shipping took a long time, but here I am ordering drugs from the convenience and safety of my own home, so who the fuck am I to complain about how shipping took longer than I wanted it to.
If you guys want to complain about SR so much, why don't you go to your local ghetto and try to buy some dope? See just how fucking lucky you are to have a site like this..."


If i bought my dope on the street, i would actually receive something, and it wouldn't be a false tracking number that's for fucking sure.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 28, 2013, 10:30 pm
Who ever left the following feedback can do as Anthrax so eloquently put it and - "Suck my motherfuckin' dick!" - At least you fucking got something - a lot of us have been fucked over completely.

"5 of 5 - Shipping took a long time, but here I am ordering drugs from the convenience and safety of my own home, so who the fuck am I to complain about how shipping took longer than I wanted it to.
If you guys want to complain about SR so much, why don't you go to your local ghetto and try to buy some dope? See just how fucking lucky you are to have a site like this..."


If i bought my dope on the street, i would actually receive something, and it wouldn't be a false tracking number that's for fucking sure.

That person can "Suck my motherfuckin' dick!" as well (even though I lack a "motherfuckin' dick" for them to suck).  ;) I just want my damn drugs so I can give him a well deserved 1 for feedback.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Qthello on March 28, 2013, 11:56 pm
Yeah, I stood up for him at first because he at least made it right by shipping, although, it was garbage product. now he does not post or anything. Coward. Also I just went too edit my feedback and, I no longer even see him listed as a vendor on the opioids page. =) It's shitty it had too go down the way it did.
Anything positive in regards too him I may have said, I redact it all.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 29, 2013, 12:19 am
He took down his #4 (or whatever it was) listings until he gets a better product. At least that is what his page says even though no one should believe a word he says. You can still find that bastard by his "MDMA" listings.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Cotchept on March 29, 2013, 12:21 am
Finally got to try my sample of heroin. It took forever to get here and just based on that I won't order from this guy again. After reading all of these reviews I had very low expectations for the quality of the product so I decided to increase the potency by pairing with some coke. So yeah, this is not very good dope even when doing speedballs. It's about on par with what you would find on the streets around here maybe even worse. If only it was a little better then I would say it's worth the $15 but after doing the whole bag and only getting a small buzz i'm gonna go back and edit my feedback. This guy isn't a scammer he just sucks at what he's doing really bad.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on March 29, 2013, 01:10 am
Who ever left the following feedback can do as Anthrax so eloquently put it and - "Suck my motherfuckin' dick!" - At least you fucking got something - a lot of us have been fucked over completely.

"5 of 5 - Shipping took a long time, but here I am ordering drugs from the convenience and safety of my own home, so who the fuck am I to complain about how shipping took longer than I wanted it to.
If you guys want to complain about SR so much, why don't you go to your local ghetto and try to buy some dope? See just how fucking lucky you are to have a site like this..."


If i bought my dope on the street, i would actually receive something, and it wouldn't be a false tracking number that's for fucking sure.

That person can "Suck my motherfuckin' dick!" as well (even though I lack a "motherfuckin' dick" for them to suck).  ;) I just want my damn drugs so I can give him a well deserved 1 for feedback.

What's lucky about losing money and not getting what was payed for? That's what happened to most of us. Also why is that guy so angry? he needs to do some of those drugs he actually received.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: toolfan on March 30, 2013, 06:38 pm
Well I am very confused about this guy. I did receive a 100% refund on my 1g H order that I never got. I guess he is not a scammer just really flakey. I did receive both samples long after I ordered them and the H sample was very good. After reading the comments about the recent quality I am kinda glad I never got my gram.
Also bitcoin has doubled in value since my order. My buyer stats have now taken a hit but I just can't trust this guy for a "re-ship'(it never shipped).I don't think this guy is a scammer just really fucked up.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Repus6 on March 31, 2013, 12:58 pm
Voting for Nod4Less' art contest is ready to go! Everyone go vote!

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=136185.0

Also, I still haven't received my order from Indub that was marked in transit 3/22. I got a message from him last night after I sent him one telling him that I was sick and tired of being kept in the dark. He promised he was going to make it right for me. I sent him back telling him that he needed to tell me what his grand plan was to make things right and I've heard nothing yet. I'll update IF he responds.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on April 03, 2013, 09:23 pm
The #4 sample I ordered when he has listed it right at the beginning of his being as a vendor on SR still didn't arrive (/him US -- /me EU ... though) ... got my money back ~2 weeks later, so there's no real pain in my ass, but I'm a bit disappointed because _nothing_ arrived.

Also worth mentioning - IMO - is that he's a damn nice guy and communication with him is always very pleasant and worth the time spent to do!!
He told me about the bad quality #4 he could get his hands on atm but don't want to, because of not wanting to sell some dirt to his customers (I'm speaking my words ... so maybe it's not congruent with him and his words, but it's my impression/interpretation of the messages/lines we wrote and exchanged) ... also it seems that a lot of _domestic_ shipments didn't arrive resp. were claimed as not received -- I think it's not unthinkable that there are a lot of scamming accounts out there targeting on new vendors offering samples and specials etc. ...

... maybe I'm too sanguine and pro-Indubitably but for me it just don't feels right atm letting him down -- /me don't want to be a vendor on SR -- maybe he should've waited a bit longer before going in action himself, should've done some more research so the one or other problem wouldn't ever have had to come up ... but: he didn't - some ordered, some received, some didn't ... he never asked to FE regarding sample orders iirc, so the harm should be at a manageable extent -- don't want to put a gloss on that whole situation, don't get me wrong, but he isn't a scammer imo, he's a lovely guy I somehow took into my heart^^

Light & Love,
∞aliaseses∞
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Qthello on April 03, 2013, 11:04 pm
The #4 sample I ordered when he has listed it right at the beginning of his being as a vendor on SR still didn't arrive (/him US -- /me EU ... though) ... got my money back ~2 weeks later, so there's no real pain in my ass, but I'm a bit disappointed because _nothing_ arrived.

Also worth mentioning - IMO - is that he's a damn nice guy and communication with him is always very pleasant and worth the time spent to do!!
He told me about the bad quality #4 he could get his hands on atm but don't want to, because of not wanting to sell some dirt to his customers (I'm speaking my words ... so maybe it's not congruent with him and his words, but it's my impression/interpretation of the messages/lines we wrote and exchanged) ... also it seems that a lot of _domestic_ shipments didn't arrive resp. were claimed as not received -- I think it's not unthinkable that there are a lot of scamming accounts out there targeting on new vendors offering samples and specials etc. ...

... maybe I'm too sanguine and pro-Indubitably but for me it just don't feels right atm letting him down -- /me don't want to be a vendor on SR -- maybe he should've waited a bit longer before going in action himself, should've done some more research so the one or other problem wouldn't ever have had to come up ... but: he didn't - some ordered, some received, some didn't ... he never asked to FE regarding sample orders iirc, so the harm should be at a manageable extent -- don't want to put a gloss on that whole situation, don't get me wrong, but he isn't a scammer imo, he's a lovely guy I somehow took into my heart^^

Light & Love,
∞aliaseses∞

He hit me up saying that he would like to send me another free sample so that I would change my feedback. Originally he did me right. However, the shit was garbage so I switched it too a 1/5. I asked him, if he would ship my gear out with the same level of stealth as my very first sample I am down, do not care how long it takes. No reply. I tried too stand up for the person and did until he just started fubaring everyone. If he wants me too change how I feel, I should not be under a stipulation. I do not give one fuck if I get his boy or not. I am a pot head. But...you want make shit right...do not question a question. Having said this, I would like to see him take some responsibility and say in this thread that he grossly under estimated his product and how he conducts business. If the cat can do that. I will change my feedback score and he ain't gotta send me shit.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: cindylove on April 06, 2013, 05:58 pm
I think it's not unthinkable that there are a lot of scamming accounts out there targeting on new vendors offering samples and specials etc. ...

I highly doubt this. Many of those who wrote reviews saying they never got anything still gave 5/5 or a few 4/5. Only a few gave bad numbers. Maybe he's just doped up on his own product.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DivineMomentsofTruth on April 07, 2013, 03:12 am
I received a free sample today after being absolutely let down by my 1 gram order with him.  I did over half the gram without feeling anything.

I will update on the quality of this new dope.

Shipping stealth was a 5/5.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Indubitably on April 08, 2013, 04:21 am
WHEW!!! It seems as if I have got to come to these forums a wee bit more than I actually have been. After finally getting through all of the comments on the thread, I will be the first to say that I thoroughly understand ALL of the frustrations that have been vented throughout. And I do apologize for the situations that I have been putting a lot of you through. I seriously do. There is absolutely no excuse.
I didn't know that people were ordering and not making any concessions for many of the mishaps that have befallen me while on my very short journey on the Road. As one of the reviewers said on feedback that they left, there were a host of "comical" things that were happening to me that brought us to the point that we were at a little over a week ago. Mainly, it was me trying to be a little too generous by offering a product that I was ill prepared to offer. That being the 100 mg samples of h. The number of orders that I received for that sized order had me running in an attempt to keep up with the number of purchases that was being made. I commend Deluxe Delivery for being able to offer that on a consistent basis, because I for one am not even going to attempt to do it anymore. I am taking that listing down for good tonight. I am actually considering very strongly leaving SR altogether. But I would only do so after being certain that everyone has received everything that was ever ordered from me. Now to address that. There have been entirely too many people claiming that they have not received an order that I shipped, reshipped, and then reshipped again. I know that there are going to be a whole bunch of bitching once you all read this but, a lot of people are outright lying. Although I did shut down shipping for a little over a week because of the complaints about quality, I have for the most part more than made up for that over this past week by giving those of you who had to wait double and triple what you originally ordered. Not only that, but I went back to those of you who posted that you had a bad experience with me and offered you all free product once again. In the past three days, I have given out over three ounces of h completely free because of the experiences that you all have claimed that you all have had with me. I am not saying that I deserve anything for it, and I do completely understand Nod4Less seeing this as a marketing opportunity, but when anyone in their right mind can see that an olive branch is being extended and someone takes an opportunity to post bullshit like this


" I have never dealt with someone of such low integrity in my life.YOU STOLE FROM ME INDY AND YOU KNOW IT! This guy when he first came out gave some samples i got one and it was good.It took a week to get hear but it did.I wanted to make sure it was not a fluke and ordered 2/100mlg. bags from him of which i paid for..
That was close to a MONTH ago!! I wrote that stuff off because this guy is a thief!!!! STAY AWAY!!! I have tried multiple and when i say multiple times to contact this guy i mean over 30 PM,s in the last month or so..Im so angry its not funny.Its not the amount its the fact that this guy is doing it to so many people..I was nice to this guy for soo long and now i have had enough..I will spread the word about this guy until i get my gear...THIEF!!!!!!!!! You make SR look like crap."


after they have ordered and quite possibly received the free samples that were sent to them for the 5th time, it is apparent that there is a whole bunch of bullshit in the game. Not only that, I have had someone order from me over ten times to ten different addresses all shipped priority and then turn around and tell me that not one of the deliveries arrived to any of the ten addresses that they had their orders shipped to when I know that I have prepared and shipped these items with my own hands. What would you make of that?  So forgive me for being a little incredulous about the claims that many of the clients whose orders actually weren't received made. People like the one who posted the statement above (who, if you remember me saying I reshipped to numerous times) made your claims seem like it was bullshit to me. To those of you I do truly apologize.

As I have stated, I have sent out over three ounces in compensatory apologies this past week alone and there have only been two comments left in the feedback given that anyone has even received anything. Now that is truly laughable. One person in particular was given as much as 8 grams alone. Is that anywhere in the reviews that have been left? Suprisingly, no. Another received 7, another 3, another 2 and there have been OVER 200 complimentary 100 mg (closer to 200 mg though) samples shipped out. I get messages thanking me for holding off of sending the bad shit in private but I am assuming that the saber rattling over here on the forums have made these people a tad bit leery about making mention of this to any of you here.

To those of you who have honestly suffered because of my lapse in judgement of not shipping immediately, I do sincerely apologize. To those of you who received an inferior product from me before I realized how truly inferior the product was, I do sincerely apologize. To all others, read between the lines.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Indubitably on April 08, 2013, 03:59 pm
I have got to admit that you all really had me scratching my head wondering how my rating had dropped so damned quickly. But after reading this thread last night, I finally understand.  ;) I am not quite sure if Nod4Less could get themselves in trouble with SR for soliciting people to change their feedback like that but...

I ain't going to say anything to the higher ups.  ;) Realistically, I am not even mad. I am just going to write a little bit about it on my vendor page so that others who have remained loyal can see what was really going on. I hope that none of you take it personally.

Thanks.

But just to be clear, this

A thought, I say this here because I've only been ordering H or from H vendors. I realized that when ordering always go

express. Every express order I've placed arrived in the time it should. Only 2 priority orders have completed. In total

I've place 9 orders(that should be here already) ..5 have arrived.

You would be better off just asking for a refund from indub. Chances are it's going to be the cut to shreds shit. You'll

end up doing an amount that would kill you if it were normal dope, but won't even get a buzz.

I'm going to start a program for people who got fucked by indub - provide me a screenshot of your fucked transaction and

I'll give you 25% your order from me... what a cocksucker - you know, what if that was someone's one attempt at using SR

and since they got burned, they are never gonna try anything else, because they just assume everyone gets fucked...   

Motherfucker is taking business from all of us...  that's bullshit... his 'review' thread is constantly on the front page 

- i get depressed reading it...

@monorivia
I've already requested a refund. I sent him a message 3 days ago basically saying "we should resolve this" the message has

not been read. I guess I'm lucky it sounds like shit gear.

@N4L
I will be emailing you said screenshot.
March 9th was marked in transit, haha
You rule by the way.

@ N4L do you mean 25% for free or 255 with our next order. I'm going to be trying you out soon regardless(I wanted to try

you before I did my second order with indub but you weren't up and running yet. If I had only waited a day or two.) Either

way, I would also need to know how to take a screenshot in the tor browser, as I'm definitely willing to take you up on

this, and I'll promise to provide a review in multiple threads.

Whoops - I forgot a word in there, it was "off" -- and I was only thinking about it -- but since it's created a 'buzz' and

you guys know I'm all about a 'buzz' (lol) - let's do it!  I can't stop the bleeding, but I can make it sting less, right?

In order to qualify, you have to message me and 'show' me a post you made in his review thread that is obviously 'legit'

because I doubt anyone is going to go in there and make a fake complaint about an order they didn't actually do.  You will

have to message me on SR with the URL of a legit complaint (it MUST be for a heroin order and it MUST be clearly evident

on your complaint post - not MDMA) you put in his review thread for me to verify.  If there's ANY doubt at all in my mind

that I can't verify it - I will first ask you for more info, but I won't hesitate to cancel it (Do NOT mistake my kindness

for weakness - you'll lose some $ due to the hedge tax).  If I can verify it, then I will message you the URL of the

stealth listing. 

The price will be 25% off (no free shipping though) my normal price.  The max order is going to have to be .5g per person.

 You can combine this offer with my normal prices if you want more than .25g. - you will not qualify for March Madness on

this .25g - sorry!).

How does that sound??  I just want to reiterate that I'm doing this to help restore some consumer faith, so please do not

try to take advantage, because it's just bad karma.  I will not hesitate to cancel an order if I get the slightest gut

feeling that you're trying to manipulate this offer - and remember, if I cancel your order, you lose $ due to the escrow

hedge, so please do not make me cancel your order.  Otherwise, I think this is a great opportunity for all of us to create

a little silver lining to what seems to have turned into a dark cloud.

Let me know what you think about this offer - please voice your opinions and if everyone agrees that this is acceptable,

then I will get a listing up ASAP.

SO - LET'S RECAP TO MAKE THIS VERY, VERY, VERY CLEAR:

1) YOU HAVE TO HAVE BEEN FUCKED OVER BY INDUBITABLY FOR ANY ORDER OF HEROIN - NO MATTER THE SIZE
2) YOU MUST HAVE PROOF (IN THIS CASE, A URL FOR THE POST YOU LEFT ON THIS THREAD DATED WAY BEFORE TODAY, STATING EVIDENCE

TO THE FACT THAT YOU'VE BEEN FUCKED, IT HAS TO BE FOR HEROIN (NOT MDMA OR ANYTHING ELSE THIS D-BAG WAS SELLING) AND IT HAS

TO BE VERY, VERY, VERY OBVIOUS.
3) IF IT IS NOT THAT OBVIOUS, THEN I WOULD NEED SOME OTHER FORM OF 'PROOF' THAT IS TO MY SATISFACTION THAT YOU WERE FUCKED

OVER
4) ONCE I FEEL SATISFIED, I WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH A STEALTH LISTING FOR 25% OFF OF MY NORMAL PRICE (NO FREE SHIPPING) FOR

UP TO .25g - NO MORE THAN THAT! (SORRY)

I am sorry this D-bag fucked some of you over - this is not how business should be handled here on Silk Road, so this is

your opportunity to experience what it is like to buy from a real vendor, who knows what the fuck he is doing, even though

I started about the same time as this clown.  I wish I could do more than .25g but I'm still working on a limited supply -

but the more I sell, the more I can buy, the more I can buy, the less it will cost, and I will pass those savings along as

I'm doing right now.  You know what they say -- once you buy from Nod4Less, you quickly realize you're fuckin' with the

best!

EDIT: I only have a limited amount of supply to work with and I need to continue to offer my normal product, but as I get

more supply in, I will continue to offer this until EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO GOT FUCKED has had an opportunity to buy from

me if they want to. Also, all orders will begin shipping Monday via Priority Mail ONLY - no Express shipping.

In conjunction with this

This guy is a fucking scammer. i don't know why people keep leavening 5/5 & 4/5 feedback for him even though he takes

forever to shit and ships shit product. Everyone who has recent feedback for him should change it to 1/5 and write

Scammer. This is fucking ridiculous.

In conjunction with this

This is a fucking scam. He's trying to fix his feedback score by doing nothing. Never ordering from him again is not

enough. You all need to change your feedback to 1/5 such that no one will be fooled by him again. This is fucking

ridiculous.

Agreed.

I agree as well. We all should go back and change our feedback. There are enough people on this thread to drastically

change his rating if we all went back and changed our feedback.

I agree too. I broke the deal I had with indub and changed my feedback to a 1/5. I did this because the buyers who don't

come to the forums deserve to have feedback that will reflect the quality of the product and the transaction. It's only

fair. This guy should not be allowed to scam anymore.

is the epitome of purchasing bad feedback in a conspiracy to destroy a vendors rating. What Nod4Less did initially could
have been done out of a sense of nobility, which is questionable at best, but once the responses started becoming "let's
all go and change our feedback" and essentially lie about your experiences is a conspiracy to commit a scam against a
vendor.



Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: rtshredder on April 08, 2013, 04:53 pm
Dear Indubitably,

I placed an order with you for 1 gram of heroin before you had any feedback. While I received my order in a timely fashion, it was complete garbage. I'm not convinced there was even any heroin in it.

Your qualm with Nod4Less is a bullshit deflection. He clearly said that he was only offering that deal to people who had been ripped off you and posted about it BEFORE he made his offer. Anyone who changed their feedback after the fact was not eligible for the deal. Nod4Less was going out of his way to right a wrong that wasn't even done by him; it was done by you. I didn't take Nod4Less up on his offer because it was your problem to fix, not his.

It's very easy to not get overwhelmed and take too many orders. SR allows you to set the number of 100mg samples that you have "in stock." If you didn't have the shit in stock, you shouldn't have said you did. That is your fault.

It's also very easy to not get complaints about sending out shitty dope. Don't send out shitty dope. That is your fault.

You approached me and said you'd send me free dope if I changed my 1/5 feedback to a 5/5. I told you the reason I gave you a 1/5 is because you had a 98 rating and people were still buying your shit. I told you now that your feedback was destroyed, I'd be generous and give you a 3/5 without the free dope. I said I would not change to a 5/5 regardless. You still sent me a link to the customer appreciation dope, and I ordered it thinking I could give you a second chance and a 5/5 rating on that, but you cancelled. I'm not sure what you're up to now. By the way, you're the only person I've ever given less than a 5/5.

You've threatened to quit Silk Road. Ask yourself -- do you think anyone would miss your service? If the answer is no, then you probably should go ahead and quit. You probably made thousands of dollars sending out inert white powder. You didn't give a shit about this thread or any complaints until your feedback dropped and you stopped getting orders. Why would you expect us to miss you?

Your patron,
rtshredder
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Indubitably on April 08, 2013, 05:09 pm
Dear rtshredder,

You, as I did expect many were and are, misunderstand me. I am content with the number of returning customers that I currently have. So there is no qualms whatsoever with Nod4Less. What I clearly stated is that I was confused as to how and why my rating was dropping so quickly. I understand it now. Your insinuation that I didn't care about this thread is a little misguided because if you look over to the left you will see that underneath my name, I am still classified as a newbie. Thus I could not post in this thread, or any other thread of consequence for that matter, until recently when I qualified for the vendor's classification which allows me now to do so.

I apologize if you were not satisfied with your initial purchase. As many other vendors have done on SR and have prominently listed on their vendors pages, I am quite sure that we could have worked something out that would have been beneficial to the both of us. As for your assertion that you rated me a 1/5 because of your concern for others who were going to buy my product as I was at a 98 rating is disingenuous at best. If I am not correct, you were supposed to rate your experience with me based on.... your experience. If your overall experience was a 1/5, then by all means rate the experience as such. I fully encourage and support the SR rating system. It is an exceptional concept. Exceptional. But what you have  said here

Dear Indubitably,

I placed an order with you for 1 gram of heroin before you had any feedback. While I received my order in a timely fashion, it was complete garbage. I'm not convinced there was even any heroin in it.

Your qualm with Nod4Less is a bullshit deflection. He clearly said that he was only offering that deal to people who had been ripped off you and posted about it BEFORE he made his offer. Anyone who changed their feedback after the fact was not eligible for the deal. Nod4Less was going out of his way to right a wrong that wasn't even done by him; it was done by you. I didn't take Nod4Less up on his offer because it was your problem to fix, not his.

It's very easy to not get overwhelmed and take too many orders. SR allows you to set the number of 100mg samples that you have "in stock." If you didn't have the shit in stock, you shouldn't have said you did. That is your fault.

It's also very easy to not get complaints about sending out shitty dope. Don't send out shitty dope. That is your fault.

You approached me and said you'd send me free dope if I changed my 1/5 feedback to a 5/5. I told you the reason I gave you a 1/5 is because you had a 98 rating and people were still buying your shit. I told you now that your feedback was destroyed, I'd be generous and give you a 3/5 without the free dope. I said I would not change to a 5/5 regardless. You still sent me a link to the customer appreciation dope, and I ordered it thinking I could give you a second chance and a 5/5 rating on that, but you cancelled. I'm not sure what you're up to now. By the way, you're the only person I've ever given less than a 5/5.

You've threatened to quit Silk Road. Ask yourself -- do you think anyone would miss your service? If the answer is no, then you probably should go ahead and quit. You probably made thousands of dollars sending out inert white powder. You didn't give a shit about this thread or any complaints until your feedback dropped and you stopped getting orders. Why would you expect us to miss you?

Your patron,
rtshredder

is not in line with the honorable practice that this policy was instituted for. If I recall correctly, you left said feedback/rating without even attempting to contact me. So...

As I have said, I completely understand what you all did NOW. I didn't understand what was going on THEN.

Thank you for your time.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Indubitably on April 08, 2013, 05:19 pm
Oh, and the reason that I cancelled the newly offered free samples was because of the context of this thread here. Imagine my shock when I read that everyone had decided to change their initial ratings of their experiences and give me what equates to a lie about the service that they did receive and here I am offering consolations to these same people.  :D

I felt really, really dumb. After all, I was offering those as a form of apology. Ask the couple of them who had been offered free grams because their initial order was for a gram. :) I was attempting to go back to correct what I thought was actual wrongs. This thread enlightened me to the fact that there was more fraud than actual suffering.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: rtshredder on April 08, 2013, 06:19 pm
dude, it's obvious what you are trying to pull here.

"everybody's changed their feedback and I didn't do anything wrong, everyone's colluding against me and everyone's out to get me! I'm an honest vendor, I swear!"

if you had

a) sent good product
b) sent product to some people at all

This thread would not be 19 pages long and no one would've changed their feedback. I haven't read this whole thread, but I've checked it quite a few times and I have not seen a single GOOD review. People didn't get their shit, or they did and it wasn't heroin.

It took this thread for some people to realize they've been fucked. That's how it works sometimes. My initial thought was that your stuff was just too weak for me since I have a high tolerance, then I gave it to a few people and they said they didn't get high, and I checked this thread and people were saying the same thing. So I changed my 5/5 feedback. Yes, I wanted to fuck up your feedback score so that other people who do not check forums would not be burned by you. That's our only weapon against vendors. Did I collude with anyone else to do that? Fuck no. I've been on SR for two years and this is the only fuckin' non-5/5 I've ever given, and I gave you a 3/5 out of the goodness of my heart because you contacted me and were trying to get your feedback up.

I respect your attempt to make things up to some people, but now you are trying to pull the wool over peoples' eyes and not take responsibility. You really think we believe you didn't know this 19-ass page long thread didn't exist?

I'm starting to regret upping your feedback to a 3/5.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Indubitably on April 08, 2013, 06:57 pm
By all means, rtshredder, feel free to go once again and edit the feedback as you feel is just. I am in no way trying to play a victim. As stated before, I am content with the number of repeat customers that I am getting who actually enjoyed their product. Believe what you may. I am not trying to shift any responsibility anywhere for A) the product that I had which was sub par and has been replaced or B) my general lack of shipping in the timely manner in which SR mandates. My belief is that everyone, with the exception of a very very few, did in fact receive their products and simply decided that I was an easy enough dupe to continually get new shipments out of. And, because of what I read here in this thread for the first time last night (believe it or not, it makes me no difference), I see why my rating dropped so quickly. A number of you all decided to go back to SR and change the initial feedback that was left. Okay. Fine. Understandable. You all made that decision and there is nothing that I can do about it. But what I was doing in giving out free product to those of you who I thought that I had seriously aggrieved was based off of the feedback that I was reading in the feedback threads left on my vendor page. What is wrong with me reconsidering handing out the gifts that I was giving? Nothing, in my opinion. I was acting under a belief that I now see was a construct of a few vested parties. I am no longer doing so. It doesn't behoove me to. I will stick to serving the clients who have chosen not to collude. :) and who still trust in me. If that isn't a problem with you that is, my good person.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Fours222 on April 08, 2013, 06:59 pm
I am still waiting on my reship from Indubitably. But I believe he is a legit seller that it just got too much with trying to add a new product. Although my review is still at a 4/5 but it does look like he is trying.

thanks indubitably and I will update when I receive the reship.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Indubitably on April 08, 2013, 07:13 pm
This is how I take responsibility for my actions though.

"After a month of worrying I'd been scammed, indubitably messaged me out of nowhere apologizing for his mess up, and delivered me twice what i originally ordered. It arrived two days later." ~A client who ordered 2 g h and received four for compensation

"This transaction leaves me with mixed feelings, but... at the end of the day, the vendor came thru with all the promises and then some. First, I ordered a fair qty express. It was put into shipped quickly and while the emails I sent went unanswered, I figured there would be no issues. Third order after all. But as the days clicked on, and nothing came, and again, no responses to emails, my mind wandered. Finally, I got a response stating there were some supply line issues and that if I said go, a package 2x expected would be posted. And it just arrived. Packaged pretty, product is fair, and the seller kept their word. And thus all is happy and good in the world. Thus I give a 5 out of 5, even though it was stressful and long running, I can understand delays out of control, but the seller worked to make it right, kept a promise, and never lost their cool. If I could give a 10, I would. And I am sure I will be buying again...." ~ A client who ordered 7 g h and received over 14 g as compensation

"Finally received my package, took 11 days from the day it was marked in transit. Vendor did answer some of my questions and did inform me that my package had not been shipped yet, and that he was waiting on better product. Overall I'm happy with the quality and quantity but don't have a scale at the moment, will update on weight later today. But assuming the weight was exactly a gram, 1/20th or approximately 50mg has me feeling pretty good via IV. Product did have some cut that wasn't water soluble." ~ A client who ordered 1 and received 2 as compensation

"Never got the half-gram I ordered after waiting in nervous anticipation for weeks, but I did get a full refund, so it didn't turn out all bad. Points for honesty. I think Indubitably's probably an honest guy who just got a little in over his head offering ultra-cheap prices for popular substances. After all, he never required anybody to finalize early, and the first time I bought from him went swimmingly, so I'd kinda like to give him the benefit of the doubt." ~ you can read that for yourself.

I think that the actions that these people actually experienced comes across as me taking responsibility, rtshredder. I am just saying... [shrugs shoulders and walks off.]
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on April 08, 2013, 08:00 pm
For record sake. I never edited my feedback to get anything. I actually gave you a 4/5 and kept it that way. You offered a re-ship and I took a refund instead. My SR name is not the same as the forum.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: Indubitably on April 08, 2013, 08:18 pm
For record sake. I never edited my feedback to get anything. I actually gave you a 4/5 and kept it that way. You offered a re-ship and I took a refund instead. My SR name is not the same as the forum.

I appreciate you at least admitting that you received a refund DarlaHarrington. Because from your last post

Who ever left the following feedback can do as Anthrax so eloquently put it and - "Suck my motherfuckin' dick!" - At least you fucking got something - a lot of us have been fucked over completely.

"5 of 5 - Shipping took a long time, but here I am ordering drugs from the convenience and safety of my own home, so who the fuck am I to complain about how shipping took longer than I wanted it to.
If you guys want to complain about SR so much, why don't you go to your local ghetto and try to buy some dope? See just how fucking lucky you are to have a site like this..."


If i bought my dope on the street, i would actually receive something, and it wouldn't be a false tracking number that's for fucking sure.

That person can "Suck my motherfuckin' dick!" as well (even though I lack a "motherfuckin' dick" for them to suck).  ;) I just want my damn drugs so I can give him a well deserved 1 for feedback.

What's lucky about losing money and not getting what was payed for? That's what happened to most of us. Also why is that guy so angry? he needs to do some of those drugs he actually received.

I was left with the impression that you were one of the people that I had "screwed over." At least that is what any intelligent person reading the above quote would have been left to believe.  There is an inherent level of dishonesty that has been perpetuated here in this thread on so many different levels.

I am just saying....
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DivineMomentsofTruth on April 08, 2013, 08:50 pm
I tried out my free 100mg sample from INdub today.  He offered me this sample because I ordered a gram from him and I did 500mg within a matter of 2 hours and still didn't feel anything.  I gave the rest out to a few friends for free and none of them got high at all. This leads me to believe that there was little to no H in my gram order. 

After trying 100mg I will say it is of higher quality than the gram I paid for, but that isn't hard to do considering I didn't get high from snorting half a gram.

The 100mg, btw it took all 100mg to feel warm and fuzzy.  I would rate this dope as as below average street level dope. I pick up on the streets from the same city Indub ships and I have never gotten quality this low.

I will leave a 5/5 for the sample because at least this had H in it and the stealth was a 5/5 but it doesn't change the fact that I paid 130 for a gram of shitty white powder that didn't have any effect on all 3 people who tried it.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: DarlaHarrington on April 08, 2013, 09:08 pm
For record sake. I never edited my feedback to get anything. I actually gave you a 4/5 and kept it that way. You offered a re-ship and I took a refund instead. My SR name is not the same as the forum.

I appreciate you at least admitting that you received a refund DarlaHarrington. Because from your last post

Who ever left the following feedback can do as Anthrax so eloquently put it and - "Suck my motherfuckin' dick!" - At least you fucking got something - a lot of us have been fucked over completely.

"5 of 5 - Shipping took a long time, but here I am ordering drugs from the convenience and safety of my own home, so who the fuck am I to complain about how shipping took longer than I wanted it to.
If you guys want to complain about SR so much, why don't you go to your local ghetto and try to buy some dope? See just how fucking lucky you are to have a site like this..."


If i bought my dope on the street, i would actually receive something, and it wouldn't be a false tracking number that's for fucking sure.

That person can "Suck my motherfuckin' dick!" as well (even though I lack a "motherfuckin' dick" for them to suck).  ;) I just want my damn drugs so I can give him a well deserved 1 for feedback.

What's lucky about losing money and not getting what was payed for? That's what happened to most of us. Also why is that guy so angry? he needs to do some of those drugs he actually received.

I was left with the impression that you were one of the people that I had "screwed over." At least that is what any intelligent person reading the above quote would have been left to believe.  There is an inherent level of dishonesty that has been perpetuated here in this thread on so many different levels.

I am just saying....

I got a 50% refund not a full one.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ondine on April 10, 2013, 12:45 am
Okay so I finally received my order of 1g of heroin from Indubitably today.

My order had originally been marked as in transit on 3/18. After 10 days and no package, I contacted Indub. He responded within an hour and offered me a free reship, once he re-upped his heroin stock. He did, and my reshipment was mailed out last Tuesday. It arrived today.

Stealth was good. Nothing special, but not bad either.

Indub also included about 0.2g extra.

Now the quality. I'd read some less than stellar reviews about the quality of Indub's gear. He said earlier that he was going to restock with a more potent product, and to be honest, I didn't really believe him at the time, as I've experienced vendors promising a stronger product, but then not following through, or only increasing potency by a very small amount. I don't know how good Indub's dope was before, but this stuff is pretty damn nice. In comparison, I would say it's only a little less strong than the stuff that DD's been sending out. In other words, I'm extremely pleased with the quality.

So Indubitably's rating is pretty low right now, and he's been getting a lot of shit on the forums, but it really seems like he's shaping up and fixing these problems. His communication is fantastic, which is one of the most important things about an SR vendor. Again, the quality of this dope is pretty great. $110 for a gram of this stuff is a fucking STEAL. If you guys don't try him out, or give him another chance, then I really think you're missing out.

But hey, more dope for me  :P
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: djnobody321 on April 13, 2013, 10:18 pm
So initially my original sample never arrived, did he ship it? who knows, is my mail man a dick and didn't deliver it, steal it, or possible put it in another tenants mailbox thats also a possibility too. indub and I went back and forth for a bit about the original sample and he said he was going to reship. So thinking hey this guy is going to make it up cool I sent him my address, he never opened that privnote, so I asked him about it. I don't believe I got a response. So then a bit of time goes by ill say a week or two and I get a message with a html address of a private listing, which I had issues with the link likely operator error, finally I got the listing and placed this order for a complimentary sample of the H for those that did get fucked. I messaged him asking about shipping estimates and it was a weekend so I knew I would not get a response. Then monday comes and as with the others order canceled, listing gone, and at the time I couldn't access his profile. So I sent another message asking why it got canceled. Never received a response to that finally I gained access to his profile and saw his explanation about another vendor offering blah blah blah for changing their feedback. Sure they could have but I dont think that is the case if anyone even took the other vendor up on that offer is questionable, AT BEST. So today I gave his customer appreciation lottery a shot just for shits and giggles, even though I didn't receive the first order that still makes me eligible for the lottery I would believe and no other statements are there stating otherwise. So I won the lottery my order ended with 33, so that makes me eligible for a free sample of H or his mdma. I chose they H and have private messaged him my address yet again. I also informed him that if this does arrive I will correct my original feedback I feel that would only be fair as that would be equal to my original order and I can actually give a review finally. So for whatever this is worth I'm just stating my experience and opinion. I think indub was overwhelmed with orders as he likely didn't expect that kind of rush for his products (which he also confirmed that before SR he was processing 1% of the orders he is here). Sooo what does that mean, well after reading through part of this thread I see that he is questioning leaving. Which I find that hard to justify but it is what it is, if your living up to your end of the deal which not all vendors do, Oliver just scammed tons of people with fake oxy powder as is another vendor I believe, So if your doing your part and delivering a quality product there would be no reason to leave. The general population and customers here are fair as are most vendors. NOT ALL so take it for what it is nothing more nothing less. Regardless and all bullshit aside lets hope more REAL vendors remain and the scammers well karma will get those mother fuckers. Ill be thrilled if my lottery winnings h sample do infact show up and if so hey ill be willing to place another order with indub I would like to see communication improve but that seems to be easier said than done with a bit of these vendors. I would like to add I would never change my feedback for another vendor to "maybe" comp me something, whom would likely just throw 25% extra cut in and be done with it. I think its kind of bogus really but my feedback I adjusted to the point that indub is trying to make things right regardless of what happened thats what it is so. That is all and simply my two fucking cents for what thats worth!
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: bumblebeedrug on April 13, 2013, 11:17 pm
yea, i got a sample off this guy, the shipping took FOREVER, and the stealth was good, BUT the dope was horrible, I IV'd it, and i barely any of it even broke down in water, it leftabunch of white residue in the spoon, i wouldnt buy form this guy again, he is either a scammer or a retard who has never done dope before, sorry bro. truth hurts
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on April 15, 2013, 11:53 pm
Still nothing arrived here ... nor the 100mg #4 sample (but it's possible that this order never was sent because he mentioned that he was surprised by the behaviour of SR regarding showing & deleting addresses after they were read), nor the reship I was told of and nor a second reship he almost put on me.

Because of all this, even me, as a declared fan of him / the person I got to know while chatting with him, got to change my initial 5/5 to a realistic 2/5 (not the 1/5 minimum because he gave me a full refund after the early problems with his first 100mg #4 sample listing) ... meanwhile: he didn't even replied on the last message I did send him.

I'm sad it went out like it did but for me the file Indubitably is closed ... "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me ... Fool me three times?! -- Well, for sure there won't be the chance of a fourth time" :lol:
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on April 16, 2013, 07:26 pm
LOL! ... today - 5 weeks after the initial order - I got my sample of #4 in the mailbox :->

Maybe it was necessary to write what I've written in here yesterday to give the universe a sign or the like ;->

Looks good -- will sample it at the end of this week I guess and come back here to give a proper review ... I hope it's not the crappy stuff but the good one \o/
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: djnobody321 on April 16, 2013, 08:13 pm
I find it quite interesting that some people are still receiving their samples who knows maybe mine will show up. I figure regardless I'm still eligible for his lottery so since it went up I gave it a shot a couple times. Well Sunday afternoon low and behold I ended up with 33 as the two digits of my order which only entitles me to a sample. In the address I simply stated that I would PM my details if I was a winner and so I did that shortly after the order went through on Sunday. As of a few moments ago my message still remains unread, actually two messages I believe remain unread.

Maybe this stems from the original sample order, after not receiving it I attempted to communicate with indub and well mostly it was me sending messages and receiving some responses. So I dunno if his help that he said he had is still operating with him or not or if he is still slammed and not getting to messages which is understandable orders should be priority. However, I do believe SR requires shipments to be processed within 4 days can another vendor confirm that? I guess we will see what happens, although the whole vendors not responding to messages or taking a week or weeks to respond is a bit frustrating.

Has anyone else won the lottery and if so have they received their winnings?
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: ∞aliaseses∞ on April 23, 2013, 10:19 pm
OK.

As much as things did not go straight, as honest I am when saying that the #4 that reached me was not bad at all :)

... in fact, it was pretty good and absolutely worth the price of 160$ which was the initial pricing iirc.

But because I don't know if the sample that finally reached me was the sample I ordered 6 weeks ago or the reship I asked for or the 2nd reship I did not ask for but I were offered -- and because _a lot_ changed in e.g. communication but imo not to the better ... I'll not order again until he gets more reputable since I were pretty hasty and almost naive in the past.

But for sure I'll give him another try if - in my eyes - the circumstances I mentioned got better, because in the end - and imo there's no question about it - he's a great guy and a person I'd love to do business with again, if the standards of doing business works flawlessly :thumbsup:
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: CmdrKeen on April 26, 2013, 12:01 am
-- Edit - I just counted, 6 transactions, not the original 8 I specified.

Really sort of too bad.

I've bought from Indub a few times - he's never let me down in well over 8 transactions on the #4. Always got it to me..

Except for this last order here. Looks like it's stuck, and I'm guessing his account is now closed. If you look, you can't pull up his user profile any more, and the vendor rating is gone from behind his name... so I guess now I get to wait for my order to go to resolution, and SR support to get involved.

Too bad, I liked his dope.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: saranottegan on April 27, 2013, 10:59 pm
I find it quite interesting that some people are still receiving their samples who knows maybe mine will show up. I figure regardless I'm still eligible for his lottery so since it went up I gave it a shot a couple times. Well Sunday afternoon low and behold I ended up with 33 as the two digits of my order which only entitles me to a sample. In the address I simply stated that I would PM my details if I was a winner and so I did that shortly after the order went through on Sunday. As of a few moments ago my message still remains unread, actually two messages I believe remain unread.

Maybe this stems from the original sample order, after not receiving it I attempted to communicate with indub and well mostly it was me sending messages and receiving some responses. So I dunno if his help that he said he had is still operating with him or not or if he is still slammed and not getting to messages which is understandable orders should be priority. However, I do believe SR requires shipments to be processed within 4 days can another vendor confirm that? I guess we will see what happens, although the whole vendors not responding to messages or taking a week or weeks to respond is a bit frustrating.

Has anyone else won the lottery and if so have they received their winnings?


I won the lottery with a 3 at the ended and asked for the 100mg heroin. Never got a reply from him and in 6 days - it auto-finalizes. I guess I'll go ahead and finalize and leave a 1 out if 5, seeing as it looks like his account is closed. Not sure what to think of him, I actually received some pretty good dope from him a couple times. Other two times. had to tale it to SR resolution. I'm glad I found SirThomasMore and DieselTherapy in his place.

As for the lottery winning, I think it's pretty safe to safe I won't be receiving anything.
Title: Re: -- Indubitably -- product reviews and vendor discussion
Post by: djnobody321 on May 01, 2013, 02:31 pm
Yeah he's likely abandoned his account as he stated either on the forum or his profile that he was likely leaving SR. I think the lottery was an attempt to pad his feedback and when he saw that didn't work (simple math would have told him that before attempting) he likely completed some of his orders as it seemed he usually didn't fulfill all as required per sr terms and dipped out. Scammers everywhere seems safer using SR but going down the block is easier half the time.