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Title: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: arcanine on October 11, 2012, 12:27 am
My grandfather who I'm very close to has been diagnosed with an invasive carcinoma skin cancer. He is also a diabetic and has had his share of hospital visits in the past (quadruple bypass and others). I've known for quite a while about the healing effects of cannabis and need to get my hands on about 50g of cannabis extract powerful and pure enough to successfully eliminate the cancer. This doesn't need to be done all at once, but I would probably start with buying 10g.

I've searched the market for very pure oils but I'm am a bit unsure if any of what is on the road is what I need. Preferably an Indica dominate strain with high CBD levels. The closest I've seen is what NorCalKing has to offer, with his test results his product looks near to what I need, alas he only has his sativa strains available.

If there is anyone that knows of someone with this product or other means of obtaining it or any information about treating serious ailments with this medicine, any and all information would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: Errl_Kushman on October 11, 2012, 12:46 am

You want Rick Simpson oil. Its a hemp oil claimed to cure cancer. I'd take that with a grain of salt but, thats what they say. *clearnet* phoenixtears.ca

I do recall that RetinaBlast was selling this at one point.
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: uniwiz on October 11, 2012, 01:18 am
+1 Thanks Errl

I am also looking for high CBD products to test.

Now onto BHO thread;)
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: arcanine on October 11, 2012, 01:24 am

You want Rick Simpson oil. Its a hemp oil claimed to cure cancer. I'd take that with a grain of salt but, thats what they say. *clearnet* phoenixtears.ca

I do recall that RetinaBlast was selling this at one point.


Precisely Errl. That is exactly what I am looking for. I have spent many hours on his site and reading about cannabis' cancer fighting properties all over the web, even before my grandfather was diagnosed. I do not have the means to grow and extract my own medicine, and my state although allowing medical marijuana, lacks a legal distribution system.
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: TMcK on October 11, 2012, 03:45 pm
My friend's mom was diagnosed recently with Stage IV breast cancer. She doesn't have insurance so the situation is pretty bad.

I'm trying to source some Rick Simpson-type hemp oil too. It seems to be the only thing I can do for her right now.
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: PrincessHIGH on October 11, 2012, 04:48 pm
My sincerest thoughts go out to arcanine's grandfather and TMcK friend's mum. Rick Simpson's Hemp Oil, sounds like a very interesting and beneficial product. Unfortunately, a quick search on SR returned no results :( A quick search on google, pointed me to this radio broadcast on Red Ice Radio, who are based somewhere in Northern Europe (never heard of them), done very recently on 7th Oct:

'Rick Simpson - Hour 1 - Hemp Oil Cancer Cure'
'Rick Simpson has been providing people with instructions on how to make Hemp Oil medicines for about 8 years. The results, Rick claims, have been nothing short of amazing. The research, backed by hundreds of other studies done worldwide, have proven that properly made hemp medicine provides relief and cures many diseases, even cancer. Simpson has provided hemp oil to hundreds of people with various medical conditions and the results speak for themselves. Throughout man’s history hemp has always been known as a powerful medicinal plant across the world. We’ll discuss Rick’s story and the use of hemp oil as medicine. He’ll explain how it works and talk about the reasons why the pharmaceutical establishment refuses to acknowledge the powerful effects and benefits of Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC).'
(clearwebalert) http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2012/10/RIR-121007.php

I'm definitely going listen to this when I have got an hour to spare :)
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: TheMonk on October 11, 2012, 05:46 pm
Hi,

Medical Cannabis Use is a very interesting subject, and Rick Simpson Cannabis oil types are a very interesting product, I'm really happy to see that SilkRoad forums can bring out some subjects not about fun drug consumption and serious drug addiction.

We have some experience with the subject so i though i could share a little bit...

First you have to consider differently the people wanting to get "high" with oil and people wanting a "medication" with cannabis oil, when we are talking about a medical cannabis oil cure the doses consumed are often too light to procure a real high, but you have to take it like a medication meaning regularly on long term basis to be serious with the thing.

We don't have some experience of oil produce for high, it usually emphasize on the THC concentration and the whole extraction process don't need to be as delicate as for medical oil, on the other side real medical cannabis oil is not only about THC, Cannabis contains more than 200 active compounds, THC, CBL, CBN are surely the most active and present compounds of cannabis but there are also numerous other molecules and to our point of view the real medical aspect of cannabis is contained in these secondary and complex molecules.

So first thing to consider, the cannabis from what you work determines a lot the properties of the oil you produce, you can't hope to get good medical cannabis oil from a bad cannabis basis with a flowering not well achieved and a low grade result, it will surely be psychoactive and contains THC, CBL, CBN but his medical properties are not good.

A second thing to consider is how the producer work, the solvent used and the whole method (time of soaking, Temperature of extraction,...), some solvent are better than other for medical cannabis extraction, some are really bad if you want an oil with medical properties.
Ether is certainly the best solvent for this kind of extraction but hard to use and not easy to get. Naphta (benzine) is a good one too and surely more easy to use.

Another thing is that there are no guaranty or whatsoever or the efficiency of the cannabis oil on cancer cure, we believe ourselves that it can help and you certainly thinks that too but will that mean that you just have to get some good medical cannabis oil to get cured from cancer?
If the person treated with medical cannabis oil dies from his cancer, does it mean that it is not working? who is responsible so, the guys saying that it can help to cure cancer, the guy that sold you the oil, yourself for believing that?
As you can see there are lot of ethical questions that pops out when you talk about Medical Cannabis oil.
As a good medical oil is very expensive to produce and can only be sold for a very expensive price you can easily see the issue of trading a product like that, with people in situation of severe medical diseases and family and friend desperately searching for a hope, so it is not a kind of business you run with confidence like you can do for a usual Cannabis business.

Lot of people are making money with this but it is hard to know if the whole thing is about medicine and helping people or getting money, it is often hard to know details about the product and the process used so nobody can know, and it costs a lot of money to produce and efforts to produce a good cannabis medical oil so i believe it is tempting to go for the profit as nobody will ever be able to know, i suppose you have to find a producer that you can trust completely.

The whole process is not so hard to do and you will find on the Rick Simpson site a lot of information on how to produce yourself a good medical cannabis oil, it might be a good solution as you can control all the process and you can choose the cannabis you want to use to do it.

We produce regularly small quantities of medical cannabis oil on demand for local customers in these hard health situations where we think it can helps concerning a health problem regarding them self or a relative, we thought it was not adapted for a place like SR with the vast majority of people wanting only to get high but this thread shows that there is certainly a demand for it that we have perhaps underestimated.
One of the problem is that the prices of production for a good medical oil are more than expensive, it's outrageous, so sell a product like that in the SR system is hard even if you limit you margin to the minimum, and so not really rewarding for the seller, so we are not really convince that it is appropriate to make available our Cannabis medical Oil in our listings on SR but we will follow the subject with interest as the medical aspect of cannabis is really a thing that we deeply believe in.

Sincere thoughts to the people that have these kind of severe pathologies and their relatives, we wish you the best and we hope you will find what you are looking for.

God Bless You
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: k1k1 on October 11, 2012, 07:36 pm
Probably you should have a look at 'Sativex', it's pure THC/CBD as spray, so he doesn't need to smoke/eat it (may be hard sometimes, if you have cancer), but can just spray it in his mouth. It's designed for people suffering MS, perhaps you know someone, who can exchange it with you.
Sadly, i've never seen it on the road for sale, perhaps leave a message to some vendors offering medicine.

For oil/budder, I can recommend GreenGiant to you, he currently has no active listings, but you should watch his vendor page ;)
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: TheMonk on October 12, 2012, 06:20 pm
Hi,

we wanted to share more on the medical aspect of cannabis oil but as we are growers and not doctors so we wanted to check with a doctor  before to don't do mistakes about what we write about it.

So here is more information we could get with a doctor involved in cancer treatment and use of medical cannabis oil.

Medical Cannabis Oil have numerous effects and the medical cases in which it can give a benefit have to be considered separately.

First  domain of use of medical cannabis oil to consider is as a helper for people to support very tough medical treatments, stabilization of appetite and a general health benefit and handling of pain in conjunction to painkillers medications.
These effects are widely known and recognized and medical cannabis is widely used for theses effects, consumed naturally vaporized or with more convenience as oil consumed orally.
These properties of medical cannabis in general and of medical cannabis oils rely essentially on 3 molecules , Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and his isomer delta-8-THC, Cannabidiol (CBD) and Cannabinol (CBN), CBD and CBN have recognized anti inflammatory effects also.

When it comes to other properties of medical cannabis oil like cancer cure and immune system related effects you have to consider it at conditional, there are debates between doctors about these effects so what we will write there is what the doctor we asked about "thinks", sadly it is hard to work on medical cannabis oil effects so there are a lack of experimentation and studies on this.

The doctor we asked thinks that good medical cannabis have naturally a short time boost effect on the immune system consumed naturally or with oil, but concentrate the active compounds in oil is definitely more efficient and often more convenient.
It definitely can help with some diseases and in the treatment of various cases including HIV and cancer in combination with the usual medical treatments, and he really underlined the "In combination with usual medical treatments", not alone as a miraculous panacea!!!
To his point of view these effects don't rely only on THC, CBN and CBL which are the most active compounds but also on other molecules contained in cannabis including the various pigments, antioxidants and ester complex molecules that are not recognized as much psychoactive and often in very very low quantities in cannabis.
He suppose the extraction process is very important regarding this, he didn't knew a lot about solvents but he don't think butane is a good choice for these kind of medical extraction.
He compared also these medical effects to what can be seen with tannins and antioxidants in old wine also recognized to have effects on health, diseases cure and aging problems in general.
To finish with  he underlined that medical cannabis oil use is not only about getting high and its use have to be considered seriously, used strictly under medical supervision like any other medication...

Hope it enlighten a little more the subject, sorry if the post contains some errors, please feel free to add any information or suggest corrections to what we wrote, we did our best to transcript a medical point of view but we are not doctors ourselves and English is not our main language...

God Bless You

Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: BigBill6778 on October 14, 2012, 08:45 pm
OK here is an email from 1 of my buyers hope maybe instead of everyone sending this buyer here or there or argue over what is what just help the person out as a lot of people have different results with cannabis products

Hi bill, i want to inform you that i am one of your steady customers previously using the account sakios. Sakios was a friend of mine in greece and he organised my transactions as he had a mature account, this is now my personal account. I have now moved to Australia but business remains the same to the same address. If you wish for me to finalize early due to the account being new, no problem. The oils are used orally by my father who has an aggressive brain tumor, around the same time that our first transaction was finalized the doctors had given him 2 weeks to live. Its been a long time since then and MRI scans show that his tumor is slowly shrinking. Because ive never had the chance to talk to you personally id like to say THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU! without you knowing it you have played a big role in my families life for giving us access to such a medicine. Also from what i see your the only vendor who has such a product and for such a reasonable price and also chemical free. I plan to do many transactions about one every 7-14 days as we have been doing. Again thank you very much!!!!!! excellent service, oh and thanks for the hash you'd put in a few times me and sakios got blazed quite nicely :)
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: TMcK on October 14, 2012, 10:44 pm
Hi Bill.

Is the oil that person is referring to, the Jamaican oil?


Thanks.
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: BigBill6778 on October 14, 2012, 10:58 pm
yes all I have ever sold is the Jamaican Oil and there is NO impurities also this is how my friends Dad uses the product for his benefit

Hi, I really appreciate your generosity thank you very much. We havn't cooked it or put it in some kind of food before the guide we have read simply says put some on your finger and eat it. I learn this cure from a Canadian guy called Rick Simpson if you type in google Rick Simpsons hemp oil cure or the site phoenix tears it has alot of information. He takes one gram a day or close to that, he takes half in the morning and half before bed orally and he smokes about a gram of marijuana a day but thats just to keep him happy :). Apparently when ingested the body takes the THC and Cannabinoids as if they were Vitamins or minierals (which is this case they are). So very important to ingest rather than smoke. This shouldn't be done along with chemotherapy or radiation if possible as the cure works by connecting to the white blood cells and making them super cancer killers, it also connects to cancer cells causing them to suicide. There's a more scientific way to say that but you get what im saying. Tell the gentleman to have faith as my dad returned from certain death. It is also important to take Vitamins and importantly Vitamin C 500mg a day at least. Its good to to the alkaline diet my father could not do this. Tell him to take a bit of soda bicarbonate a day to keep his PH levels down and also its important to be in the sun as Vitamin D is also a major killers. Hemp oil is the strongest thing out of all of these and the most important most people dont do the other things i have said but if the gentleman is a strong character its will make it alot easy for his body. Thanks again buddy for everything my wishes for your buyer.
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: Errl_Kushman on October 14, 2012, 11:05 pm
yes all I have ever sold is the Jamaican Oil and there is NO impurities also this is how my friends Dad uses the product for his benefit



The only time I had Jamaican oil was in Jamaica. It was the absolute worst crap I have ever had. That said, yours looks much, much better. What makes your oil "jamaican"?
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: awesome1126 on October 14, 2012, 11:11 pm
Out of all my oil transactions on the road, NorCalKing by far has the best quality product and service. Shipping always takes 2 days tops, packaging is excellent, the product is always overweight and always the absolute highest quality. You get what you pay for!
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: NOTspacecase on October 14, 2012, 11:23 pm
You would probably be a lot better off making simpson oil yourself considering the price people are asking for it...

You will be able to get a full 90 day treatment from 2 ounces of oil which will take roughly 1.5 lbs to make if you use the method from his videos.
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: BigBill6778 on October 14, 2012, 11:39 pm
Well Mr Errl (Butane) Kushman wondered when you would shoot your mouth off Again need I remind you Butane is a Carcenagen it causes cancer. This guy is trying to get rid of it and as for jamaican Oil tasting like Crap maybe the posse there gave you shit because you only visit in the winter and expect them to treat you like your someone special in their Country.This guy is looking for TREATMENT Not mine or your Bickering so just try and help out instead of being part of the DAM Problem
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: BigBill6778 on October 14, 2012, 11:48 pm
arcanine as I said in my earlier post send me an email & I will send you a couple to try for free for I am not in this to make money off the sick but to help I can off a great price for you as a treatment for your Grandfather I could sell you 32g's of Jamaican Oil for $300 for treatment

And Errl Sorry for the shit I just spit out I just want to make sure patients get good meds and any oil made with Butane is considered harmful in my eyes & the medical association I have super thick concentrated oil you literally have you dig the oil out of the vials if you would like I could send you a free gram to sample what Kingston Jamaica Oil Tastes like
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: Errl_Kushman on October 15, 2012, 12:00 am
Well Mr Errl (Butane) Kushman wondered when you would shoot your mouth off Again need I remind you Butane is a Carcenagen it causes cancer. This guy is trying to get rid of it and as for jamaican Oil tasting like Crap maybe the posse there gave you shit because you only visit in the winter and expect them to treat you like your someone special in their Country.This guy is looking for TREATMENT Not mine or your Bickering so just try and help out instead of being part of the DAM Problem

I"m not bickering, i'm asking a  question. YOUR "Jamaican" oil looks MUCH better than the "Jamaican" oil I've had while in Jamaica. That oil was absolute crap. it was like a tar, not an oil. very very poor quality. I'm 100% sure the posse there gave me junk oil because I was a tourist.

As i mentioned in my original question, I have no doubt yours is better, just looks alone, so clean looking. Im curious as to what  the difference between crap oil (the stuff I had), and the real deal Jamaican oil (what I am under the impression you sell) is. For Errl, its the solvent used, its purity, the purge, etc.

No need to be offended homes, your shit looks dope.
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: Errl_Kushman on October 15, 2012, 12:02 am

And Errl Sorry for the shit I just spit out I just want to make sure patients get good meds and any oil made with Butane is considered harmful in my eyes & the medical association I have super thick concentrated oil you literally have you dig the oil out of the vials if you would like I could send you a free gram to sample what Kingston Jamaica Oil Tastes like

It's all good man. You're doing good in my eyes by helping patients and you're passionate. i dig :-)
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: BigBill6778 on October 15, 2012, 12:19 am
Well all I know is in Jamaica you can go to the distilleries and purchase kegs of RUM the Dreads that we get our oil from use WRAY & Nephews Rum (overproofed) they distill it again to make a 97%-98% solution for washing the weed they cut the plants and use the bud in a wash after they have washed the weed for 5-7minutes they remove it and run this wash thru a syrup mess bag ( like we use for Maple Syrup) it is then place in large green rubbermaid tubs and left to evap in the sun everytime we order we receive 100LB brick this stuff is so thick you can roll it in your finger tips there are no solvents or any impurities as you said it looks Bomb & the lebanese hash are my best sellers as a lot of my buyers are med patients and they get great pricing because of this
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: Errl_Kushman on October 15, 2012, 01:46 am
Well all I know is in Jamaica you can go to the distilleries and purchase kegs of RUM the Dreads that we get our oil from use WRAY & Nephews Rum (overproofed) they distill it again to make a 97%-98% solution for washing the weed they cut the plants and use the bud in a wash after they have washed the weed for 5-7minutes they remove it and run this wash thru a syrup mess bag ( like we use for Maple Syrup) it is then place in large green rubbermaid tubs and left to evap in the sun everytime we order we receive 100LB brick this stuff is so thick you can roll it in your finger tips there are no solvents or any impurities as you said it looks Bomb & the lebanese hash are my best sellers as a lot of my buyers are med patients and they get great pricing because of this

Thanks for the explanation. Yeah, the shit I got was definitly not the quality you're talking. It almost had a gas like smell. It didnt seem right at the time and after your explanation, i know i got taken.

I've gotta add your Jamaican oil to my list of must trys!
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: BigBill6778 on October 15, 2012, 02:55 am
I started the 1gram challenge if you are a senior member check it out and take the challenge you smoke oil so maybe you can decide what has the longer upper high

look in the forums hope you take it and you get 2 of the greatest samples available for their product
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: TheMonk on October 15, 2012, 03:55 am
Hi,

BigBill6778 your oil seems awesome as the process seems very traditional and at least done with a proper solvent (alcohol) even if not the best.
Surely far way better than all the Butane extracted oils at least.

To our point of view you have a very good high grade oil but we are not sure that it has the best medical properties that you can obtain from a cannabis oil cause of the traditional process and the solvent.
I hope you won't consider what i said offensive or aggressive, or made to downgrade your product, we have no oils on our listings so we would have no reason to do this.

As previously said you have to consider separately an oil made mainly for THC, CBD and CBN which has medical properties linked to these molecules and a medical oil done for cancer cure.

Let's take the example of wine for tannins and antioxidants which is far more documented and studied, the main psychoactive element in wine is alcohol, a high rate of alcohol obtained from the normal transformation process doesn't mean you have a wine with good properties on health, all the good effects on health that can come from wine are coming from secondary molecules like tannins and antioxidants, often very very weak molecules that so are easily destructed by heath or light.

We think a good reference is the Rick Simpson's internet site used to promote medical cannabis oil :
http://phoenixtears.ca/
" Alcohol is not quite as effective as ether or naphtha as a solvent, since it is less selective in nature, but still it does work well. Alcohol will dissolve more chlorophyll from the starting material and due to this, oils produced with alcohol will usually be more noticeably dark in color. For a solvent to be effective it should be 100% pure and 100% pure alcohol is expensive and can be quite hard to find."

As previously said we don't think SR is the place for finding this kind of medical oil used for cancer cure but you can find pretty good cannabis on SR and the whole extraction process is not so hard to do, don't hesitate to go on the Rick Simpson's internet site and see if it is possible for you to easily make your own medical cannabis oil from a High Quality Cannabis you choose.

Anyway Bigbilly seems to sell a high grade oil that is probably mind blowing, I will surely try it myself if i can soon, so i hope my post won't be badly considered and misunderstood...

God Bless you

 
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: BigBill6778 on October 15, 2012, 04:15 am
thanks for your input and the is a member on hear in the BHO oil his is doing CO2 Honey oils and there are some really good products just that the chemicals used are consider carcinagens so why use a product like that.It will only add to the discomfort and pain of the patient I hope you can find a OIL that your friend can use to moderate pain & possibly reverse the effects of his illness good luck and hope you find what you are looking for

And you were not offensive or rude you spoke your mind about what you need
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: hashmat on October 15, 2012, 05:20 am
spam bump down
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: etro1 on October 15, 2012, 05:29 am
Have you tried the chocolate chip cookies that are popular on SR? I ordered 2 recently and GOODNEESS they really do contain at least 400mg of THC a piece. Wonderful quality 3-5 hour high with pleasant aftereffects. Made me so happy. And I love Sativa, and this was an awesome example for me.

Etro
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: arcanine on October 17, 2012, 11:35 pm

We produce regularly small quantities of medical cannabis oil on demand for local customers in these hard health situations where we think it can helps concerning a health problem regarding them self or a relative, we thought it was not adapted for a place like SR with the vast majority of people wanting only to get high but this thread shows that there is certainly a demand for it that we have perhaps underestimated.
One of the problem is that the prices of production for a good medical oil are more than expensive, it's outrageous, so sell a product like that in the SR system is hard even if you limit you margin to the minimum, and so not really rewarding for the seller, so we are not really convince that it is appropriate to make available our Cannabis medical Oil in our listings on SR but we will follow the subject with interest as the medical aspect of cannabis is really a thing that we deeply believe in.

Sincere thoughts to the people that have these kind of severe pathologies and their relatives, we wish you the best and we hope you will find what you are looking for.

God Bless You

Thank you for the reply, Monk. I am very interested in getting a hold of this medicinal grade oil. My grandfather to my knowledge has never been high in his life or in at least the last 50 years, so no this is definitely not for a recreational purpose. With the type of oil you produce are there psychoactive effects when taken in the needed dosage? What about if used topically? Also, you mention that it is quite expensive to produce, how much would you say a 30g supply (or however much would last around a month) would cost with respect to you needing to make a profit? I too believe in the power of Cannabis and wish it was being used worldwide to its fullest potential.
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: arcanine on October 17, 2012, 11:44 pm
arcanine as I said in my earlier post send me an email & I will send you a couple to try for free for I am not in this to make money off the sick but to help I can off a great price for you as a treatment for your Grandfather I could sell you 32g's of Jamaican Oil for $300 for treatment


Bill, sorry it's taken me a while to reply I've been unavailable for a few days. I am definitely interested in getting a sample of your oil and possibly buying enough for a full treatment, if the product is as good as you say then that price sounds more than fair for fighting cancer. I really do appreciate all the replies and information from you guys, keep it coming!
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: arcanine on October 17, 2012, 11:45 pm
arcanine as I said in my earlier post send me an email & I will send you a couple to try for free for I am not in this to make money off the sick but to help I can off a great price for you as a treatment for your Grandfather I could sell you 32g's of Jamaican Oil for $300 for treatment


PS I Pmed you. :)
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: arcanine on October 17, 2012, 11:51 pm
Have you tried the chocolate chip cookies that are popular on SR? I ordered 2 recently and GOODNEESS they really do contain at least 400mg of THC a piece. Wonderful quality 3-5 hour high with pleasant aftereffects. Made me so happy. And I love Sativa, and this was an awesome example for me.

Etro

I love eating cannabis, it provides a wonderful feeling and good effects. Alas, this is not for me or for recreation, I would really like to get something that may actually help fight my grandfathers cancer.

As previously said we don't think SR is the place for finding this kind of medical oil used for cancer cure but you can find pretty good cannabis on SR and the whole extraction process is not so hard to do, don't hesitate to go on the Rick Simpson's internet site and see if it is possible for you to easily make your own medical cannabis oil from a High Quality Cannabis you choose.

Anyway Bigbilly seems to sell a high grade oil that is probably mind blowing, I will surely try it myself if i can soon, so i hope my post won't be badly considered and misunderstood...

God Bless you

 

Thanks again Monk, this sounds like it may be a viable option for me. I may end up buying a QP or HP of some quality buds and performing the extraction myself after I do some more research. It would be much easier to buy pre-made oil and that is what I would definitely like to do but like you said, I need an oil that has more of the secondary compounds than just the main components THC and CBD.
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: TheMonk on October 18, 2012, 03:30 am
Hi,

we are really sorry we can't provide you some of our medical cannabis oil through our SR listings.

The best solution to our point of view is to send you to the Risk Simpson's site which is a world reference on Medical cannabis oil, the guy is very friendly so don't hesitate to contact him through his internet site.
He is always happy to help and he is a type of guy that "learn you how to catch fish instead to give you a fish", he is really committed to share his experience and knowledge on Cannabis oil.

The problem with all this is not that we couldn't produce some medical oil to sell on SR but as we are talking about serious health issues like cancer it is a big moral and ethical issue, the thing we want really want to avoid is to give false hopes to desperate people and selling for high prices a cannabis oil that could be seen as a scam or a mean for us to make money on the back of people in these situations.

Another point is that we can't control the use of it in the end, and we are really scared to see the possibility of people using the cannabis oil as their only cure hoping that it is a kind of panacea, which is something that shouldn't be done at all, again the best way to use cannabis oil for cure is as an element of a complete medication and under a minimal medical supervision at least.

So finally i think the best solution for you is so to make you own medical oil using Rick Simpson's pages as a reference so you can take the whole responsibility of  this choice, but we will try to answer the best we can your questions.

The best way to take it to our point of view is 6-10 times during the day with small doses that should be taken preferably on an empty stomach to reduce the interactions with food, the doses used are lightly psychoactive, but in our experience the usual cancer medications are so strong that the patient don't really notice a big difference with or without the oil.

Regularly you can also dissolve some oil in hot water with a little bit of alcohol to do some inhalations the same old way that was used to cure flu.
You can also use the effects of THC, CBD, CBN that is contained in oil to facilitate some moments of the day like when the cancer treatment is taken, you will so use more oil on this moments to take profit of the oil psychoactive effects that can help during these tough hours and after that you come back to a normal dosage for the rest of the day.

We hope you will be able to find what you want, we know that making your own oil seems to be a hard thing for some people but as said the process is not so difficult and the requirements are not so important so it is just about some efforts to make and you have Rick Simpson's site as a reference so it is really easy to get information.

Anyway as I said BigBill oil seems a very good oil produced with a traditional method, it is certainly a good THC CBD CBN containing oil but as said the method is not really adapted for medical oil as the exposition to light and heath will only permit to THC, CBD, CBN (the tough molecules) to survive in the oil and alcohol is a not selective solvent so chlorophyll content is also an issue, so it can surely be a good start and at least easy to obtain through SR transactions for you, it can surely helps to sustain the cancer medical treatments but don't hesitate to look at the Rick Simpson site also.

http://phoenixtears.ca/

God Bless You
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: uniwiz on October 18, 2012, 03:59 am
Thanks guys,learning more everyday.
I too want to try High CBD low THC for people seeking health benefits.
Guess I have more reading to do. Don't take Err; too seriously, he means well. ;D

Bigbill, thinking on taking to up on your offer. I'll try anything, once;)
Title: Re: Info on High Grade Cannabis Oil, Any Vendors?
Post by: TheMonk on October 18, 2012, 04:42 am
Hi,

CBD and CBN have a good anti-inflammatory effect that is well adapted to various pathologies, they are less psychoactive than THC but they have good medical properties.

To our point of view the CBN and CBD oil content is highly depending on the cannabis you use to make you oil, as said the whole process required to obtain an oil with THC, CBD, CBN don't need to be as delicate as for a pure medical cannabis oil for cancer cure.

You should obviously avoid Butane extractions surely but that said it is more about your choice and your possibilities.

Quote from http://phoenixtears.ca/ :
" I don’t recommend the use of butane as a solvent to produce this medication, since it is very volatile and would require the use of expensive equipment to neutralize the danger. Also using butane to produce the oil does not decarboxylate the finished product, so oils produced in this manner would be much less effective for medicinal use."

We think there are multiple use for cannabis oil but the needs are not really the same for each people so i think the only good thing to do for everyone willing to use cannabis oil as medicine is to take as much information as they can on it and its use regarding their pathologies.
Some people are looking for the specific medical properties of THC or CBD, CBN only so for them there are no needs to be too selective in the choice of their oil, every good cannabis oil produced should contained THC, CBD, CBN but it does not mean that it has good medical properties concerning cancer cure.

Again we are open to any remark, suggestion or correction on what we write so don't hesitate to make an intervention if you feel that we are not accurate in what we say, medical cannabis oil is a very interesting subject that really lacks of consideration, anything that could lead people to consider more cannabis oil for its medical properties is welcome.

God Bless You