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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: expandmind on August 27, 2013, 11:17 pm

Title: International orders, avoid if possible or no?
Post by: expandmind on August 27, 2013, 11:17 pm
How much increased risk is there? I really want to purchase something international for a better price (~$25 total savings). Is this worth it or not?
Title: Re: International orders, avoid if possible or no?
Post by: eggwhites420 on August 27, 2013, 11:23 pm
I wouldnt
Title: Re: International orders, avoid if possible or no?
Post by: eggwhites420 on August 27, 2013, 11:27 pm
Butt on the other hand i might. 8)
Title: Re: International orders, avoid if possible or no?
Post by: expandmind on August 27, 2013, 11:30 pm
Butt on the other hand i might. 8)

lol, someone please talk about how much riskier it is if someone knows.
Title: Re: International orders, avoid if possible or no?
Post by: cryngie on August 27, 2013, 11:37 pm
Depends on the country you are in and where you are ordering from

I live in AUS and have recieved orders from a few EU countries but a order from SE asia never arrived not sure if customs or a dodgy vendor and will never know (unless the feds turn up)
Title: Re: International orders, avoid if possible or no?
Post by: high808 on August 27, 2013, 11:40 pm
im interested in this as well. Lets say you live in the usa and are thinking about ordering from czech or aus
Title: Re: International orders, avoid if possible or no?
Post by: expandmind on August 27, 2013, 11:53 pm
Depends on the country you are in and where you are ordering from

I live in AUS and have recieved orders from a few EU countries but a order from SE asia never arrived not sure if customs or a dodgy vendor and will never know (unless the feds turn up)

czech to US, from Haizenberg
Title: Re: International orders, avoid if possible or no?
Post by: 88fxstc on August 28, 2013, 12:00 am
If your in the US and you do your research as far as how good the vendor is with his stealth, you shouldn't have an issue. As long as your not ordering from South America, The Netherlands, ya know, a red flag country. I've got some of the best C on the planet from Belgium, Germany and the UK has some very good stuff too. Not to knock domestic US stuff but I've got nothing here as good as the EU stuff I've tried, and I've had some pretty damn good domestic product. I don't get it, we are closer to the source , but , I got aq feeling the EU product goes from source countries right over there without the Mexicans fucking it up. They go thru other countries as well, but somehow, someway there are a few vendors are getting their hands on primo product that you almost never find over here, almost. They have it on a regular basis. All letters came looking exactly like any other of the gazillion pieces of mail that travel the world every day.
Title: Re: International orders, avoid if possible or no?
Post by: unbeknownst on August 28, 2013, 12:04 am
The risk of seizure is substantially higher. Domestic packages are rarely searched, but customs control in the US and especially AUS, NZ, Scandinavia are fairly tight. That's why many vendors up and won't ship to these countries. International can work, it all comes down to the strength and variety of stealth that the vendor uses. Once LE seize one package in the mail, they will be on the lookout for that particular stealth profile and single it out. Packages from certain countries are also scrutinized very closely, i.e. Netherlands, Germany, anywhere in Latin America.

You need to do your research on vendors and the effectiveness of their stealth, and success rate in shipping from their country to yours. There should be enough information in the forums, stats, and feedback to make an informed decision. If there isn't don't risk it. You will find the success rate varies enormously, it all comes down to how creative and careful the seller is with their packaging; it is one of the main things that makes the difference between mediocre and great vendors.  I have had many SR transactions, all but a few domestic, and the only one that didn't work out was from NL. Canada to US or vice versa is considered fairly safe and I have had several successful shipments from CA.
Title: Re: International orders, avoid if possible or no?
Post by: expandmind on August 28, 2013, 05:44 am
The risk of seizure is substantially higher. Domestic packages are rarely searched, but customs control in the US and especially AUS, NZ, Scandinavia are fairly tight. That's why many vendors up and won't ship to these countries. International can work, it all comes down to the strength and variety of stealth that the vendor uses. Once LE seize one package in the mail, they will be on the lookout for that particular stealth profile and single it out. Packages from certain countries are also scrutinized very closely, i.e. Netherlands, Germany, anywhere in Latin America.

You need to do your research on vendors and the effectiveness of their stealth, and success rate in shipping from their country to yours. There should be enough information in the forums, stats, and feedback to make an informed decision. If there isn't don't risk it. You will find the success rate varies enormously, it all comes down to how creative and careful the seller is with their packaging; it is one of the main things that makes the difference between mediocre and great vendors.  I have had many SR transactions, all but a few domestic, and the only one that didn't work out was from NL. Canada to US or vice versa is considered fairly safe and I have had several successful shipments from CA.

Thanks, great help. Will stick to domestic and Canada then.

Also thanks to the guy above this guys post.
Title: Re: International orders, avoid if possible or no?
Post by: l33tn355 on August 28, 2013, 05:53 am
Meh, all of my packages have been international into the US and I've never had an interception. Do your research and use a good vendor and you don't need to worry about a thing.
Title: Re: International orders, avoid if possible or no?
Post by: serpents on August 28, 2013, 11:03 am
Anything that can be packed flat and put into a normal envelope is less likely to get seized. I have made several purchases from the USA and Canada (to EU) and never had any problems. Had one package from Mexico siezed.
Title: Re: International orders, avoid if possible or no?
Post by: 1morestranger on August 28, 2013, 04:32 pm
czech to US, from Haizenberg

You can order from Haizenberg. I will not tell how it is packed. I will say they won't open it but even if they open it they won't find the goods.
Title: Re: International orders, avoid if possible or no?
Post by: Mr.Charlie on August 28, 2013, 05:20 pm
All of my orders have been international. I've made quite a few orders and only lost two, one to my own fault of not writing the address correctly, and the second one was an MDMA order from Mercury31 that never came, he has pretty good feedback, but some people have said he doesnt use a return address which could've been why mine never showed.

I've never had an issue, almost all my orders arrive quickly, (especially Germany and UK)

I've even ordered from the Netherlands a few times with no issues, I've noticed NL orders take a little longer though.


Like everyone has said, take the time to research vendors and peoples experiences with them.