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Title: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are ! Come and Get The PGP.
Post by: Bigdeal100 on March 03, 2013, 04:59 pm
 Later I will update some Pictures and Videos for my lasers ..It will surprise you all !!
No matter where you are ,if you like ,I will try my best to send you safely !!

Buy lasers ,Please Come  into :
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/280bb9fd1b/10
Best regards
Bigdeal100
 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Now Bigdeal100 Get PGP key

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Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: Bigdeal100 on March 06, 2013, 07:00 am
There is  new stuff  coming in ..please check ,what is it ? :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: b0m on March 06, 2013, 08:16 am
i really hate to crush a vendors thread but what i hate even more are people who lie about their products to get more sales. so u are not only lying about the output power of ur items (1000mw green which will most certainly not even hit 150mW because the heatsink of this host cant even take 200mW - alone judged by the size of it) but u completely overprice them. the greenie is not even worth 80$ but costs more than 160€. the blue is not even worth 180$ but costs more than 300€. way to go. i feel for ur customers.  u guys better google for a minute to find better quality + better prices.

u know thats the problem of china - lying about their products to get more sales. thats why china stands for low quality BUT usually low prices. here u can find both - low quality and the greediness of an egoistic person trying to scam off people by way overpriced, bad quality products, counting on the dumbness of your customers. way to go my friend. lower the prices to at least 2/3 of the actual to make it fair for both parties (which would still be overpriced to reliable sources u can find all over the internet). And stop lying about your products. worst thing u can do as a seller. lying to the people who pay your bread. fuck i hate u. get this : customer is KING. and that will NEVER change.

u know, go above and beyond for ur customers doesnt mean go above and beyond all fair prices imaginable...
Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: Bigdeal100 on March 06, 2013, 04:40 pm
Hi B0m:
I hate the bad vendors too .
My laser quality is best ,I think ,it can light the match and the cigar ,I never lied .You said lying is a problem of China .  I think your words is not fair for china ,lying is in every where.
Why my price is like this ,it is depending on my quality ..And you find the lower price on google.
If you like ,just buy it .I don't think you can get the product what you want .
Now ,lasers are illegal in somewhere , even though it is 1$ ,you can't get it .it is no meaningful for the price in somewhere .The most important is the way you sell and you buy ..I take the risk too .

Hope you can understand my poor English..
I will do my best to be a good vendor .

Thanks
bigdeal100 

i really hate to crush a vendors thread but what i hate even more are people who lie about their products to get more sales. so u are not only lying about the output power of ur items (1000mw green which will most certainly not even hit 150mW because the heatsink of this host cant even take 200mW - alone judged by the size of it) but u completely overprice them. the greenie is not even worth 80$ but costs more than 160€. the blue is not even worth 180$ but costs more than 300€. way to go. i feel for ur customers.  u guys better google for a minute to find better quality + better prices.

u know thats the problem of china - lying about their products to get more sales. thats why china stands for low quality BUT usually low prices. here u can find both - low quality and the greediness of an egoistic person trying to scam off people by way overpriced, bad quality products, counting on the dumbness of your customers. way to go my friend. lower the prices to at least 2/3 of the actual to make it fair for both parties (which would still be overpriced to reliable sources u can find all over the internet). And stop lying about your products. worst thing u can do as a seller. lying to the people who pay your bread. fuck i hate u. get this : customer is KING. and that will NEVER change.

u know, go above and beyond for ur customers doesnt mean go above and beyond all fair prices imaginable...
Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: b0m on March 06, 2013, 05:32 pm
im sorry for the statement about china. but this is not the first discussion i have with a laser vendor from china. there is no laser company other than china who lies about their product (at least not that i know of - and i know some). U know there are a lot of laser enthusiasts just like me who meet in forums and talk about it. people who lie about their products are getting a bad reputation really quick and dont sell anything anymore. the point why im getting mad at you is that u not only sell the worst quality of lasers (the hosts give it away) but also lie about the output power (the output power is what makes up the price if it comes to lasers). As a good seller u want to make sure u sell what u offer. u never want to lie! that will get u nowhere. u will sell a few items and thats it! people are not satisfied. At least people who know what they are dealing with. U dont only want to have the dumb customers. u want to have enthusiasts pointing on u and say 'hey - this guy i have had some good experiences with'.

if u want to be a good vendor go for honest quality. u even want to say it only has 100mW when infact it has 150 - that is what makes ur customers happy. but not the other way around.

people who buy the stuff from u can also buy the stuff from anyone else googeling for 1 minute but half the price and guarantee! From serious companys not lying about their products. Please adapt. For the sake of ur future customers and specially to honor silk roads reputation.

Good luck on improving
Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: Bigdeal100 on March 14, 2013, 10:11 am
Hi b0m:
Thanks for your advice .

The past those days ,I did more search and learned more knowledge about the lasers ..
And I went to my suppler store to ask for more clearly information seriously .
After all of it ,Now I make a statement for my laser in this forum.. 
My lasers:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/a11780d39a
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/43d0a29bfd

The wrote all the description for my lasers according to the label on the laser. 
The output power in the description  are not very right  (I just delete them) .
I am really  soooo sorry about it.
Because I have no equipment to test the output power and my shortage  knowledge of Laser .
But my laser really have the function I wrote .
The first day when I decided to sell lasers On SR, I did more tests to make sure they work well .
My any laser order I sold ,I test it first ,then ship out .
The supper strong green laser  really can light the match quickly. 
The soooooo super strong blue laser  can light cigaret easily ,burn the blak T-shit, grocery bag, and many other things instantly- it just causes them to suddenly start smoking and can burn person's  skin.

About the price ,you said it very high .
I already had some discount.
But the two strong lasers costs me too much to get .And I had a lot risk to sell lasers ..I have to make the stealth package to ship..
Till now ,they are the most powerful laser  I can find.

I will do my best to be a good vendor on SR .

Thanks anyway again.

Bigdeal100


 
Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: oldcactushand on March 14, 2013, 02:46 pm
What do people use this for? Is it just an expensive (and illegal?) toy used for burning things? That's what I thought when I first saw this, but I guess I'd never realistically considered being able to obtain a laser, and what I would do with it. Now I hear of a community (or communities?) of laser enthusiasts... How many of you are there? What do you talk about? Would you say lasers play a significant role in your day-to-day life?

Tell me all about your world of lasers.

(Not intended to offend, just curious).
Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: Bigdeal100 on March 14, 2013, 03:54 pm
Hi oldcactushand:
I am sorry ,I  can't give you a clearly explanation  ,because of my poor English communicate skills .
If you want to know more ,you can search them on Google .
This website  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_pointer has  a few of informations of lasers .
Hope I can help you .

Bigdeal100
Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: PizzaBrain on March 14, 2013, 04:05 pm
"b0m?"

Way to fuck up a vendors rep before he's even earned back his $500 bond.
I suggest you go back and take some of the accusations out of your posts and suggest the vendor openly disclose quality issues and therefor reduced price (as much as he can reduce i presume, with the worry of possibly not earning his bond back in time)

You wouldn't go to wallmart or radioshack and complain (in the form of banners outside and in-store graffiti) about their cheap consumables or electronics that are all overpriced chinese plastic crap.

If you don't want to buy something, walk on.
I'm not a laser nerd, but would have checked out the sellers page. arent most lasers from china? How is he to know about their quality without running expensive tests? There are much worse and dishonest laser salemen than this guy. This thing could happen to anyone.

Give him a fucking break, you hardly let him get in the door.. come on!

Have a little consideration for people who have to pay $500 to sell stuff here.
That works out more expensive than a good few years domain hosting and webspace with an advertising package etc.

If you had a reasonable concern, you could of messaged him about it and filled him in on what you know, maybe he could of talked with his supplier about it or changed suppliers altogether and resolved the problems you see.

They might have been totally valid, but i'm sorry to say the way you went about it really offended me, and no doubt will offend many others. calling him a liar several times and spewing slime like "fuck i hate u"

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And stop lying about your products. worst thing u can do as a seller. lying to the people who pay your bread. fuck i hate u. get this : customer is KING. and that will NEVER change


You wouldn't spend the time to hack or deface a laser website so don't post anti-sales vulgar scum to any vendors thread without at least speaking to them privately about your issues.
Totally uncalled-for and LOW
Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: b0m on March 14, 2013, 06:11 pm
If you don't want to buy something, walk on.

Never. I will always stand up for people who dont know better (customers) if I know better.

How is he to know about their quality without running expensive tests? There are much worse and dishonest laser salemen than this guy. This thing could happen to anyone.

He is about to know of the power if he buys a lasermeter for 120$ to test the output power. Which the supplier of him should do in the first place. Who ever comes up with a wrong output power is simply a liar and should be avoided to do business with. The output power is what sets the price of a laser. Lying about that is lying to gain more sales + counting on the dumbness of the customers (which is wrong in any way, just to point it out because it seems like u dont understand that)

If you had a reasonable concern, you could of messaged him about it and filled him in on what you know, maybe he could of talked with his supplier about it or changed suppliers altogether and resolved the problems you see.

I had a reasonable concern and i wanted possible customers to know it aswell (not only him). Thats why i posted in this Thread and not PM

They might have been totally valid, but i'm sorry to say the way you went about it really offended me, and no doubt will offend many others. calling him a liar several times and spewing slime like "fuck i hate u"

Indeed, i am usually not the kind of person to act that harsh (and saying i hate to crush a vendors thread wasnt meant as a joke), but i feel offended if Sellers lie about their products. If they dont know better they have to adopt (which he seems to do, and he got my respect for that) and dont put output powers there (just like drug sellers say: i dont know the exact dose of my drug. u can only put an exact explanation of how much is in there if u know FOR SURE). Also if they have suppliers who lies about their products they have to ignore them in the future and get some new or just dont sell any of these products. As a seller u are the one who have to take care so people get what they buy from u! saying 'i didnt know, my supplier said...' doesnt help the customers!

You wouldn't spend the time to hack or deface a laser website so don't post anti-sales vulgar scum to any vendors thread without at least speaking to them privately about your issues.
Totally uncalled-for and LOW

It is totally called-for to provide possible customers with the truth! Me as a customer would be happy if someone points me to where i can buy the same product for less than half the price, guarantee included! this is plain scam in my book. And i will always try to keep people of falling for such behaviour.

Low are people who know better and stfu to help Sellers scam their customers. Heck i wouldnt even do that if i get paid for it. This is under my niveau.

U are the SELLER! U r the one who tries and gain a profit! U r the one supplying ur customers with what u offer, so U r the one responsible for what u advertise. Not the one u buy ur products from.

The whole story here is comparable to go to the supermarket, buy a box of cigarettes for 50€ and then come here and try to sell it for 100€. In this case people would know its a scam cuz everyone knows how much cigarettes cost. But for lasers its not that way, because most people dont know anything about lasers and buy blindly cuz they trust the vendor! Only people who are dumb and uninformed will buy these but exactly these are the people who should be taken care of, which im doing right here. Nothing wrong with it in my book. People (i.e. U) who think its wrong should rewrite their own book.

@oldcactushand it is basically for stars watchers to show eachother what specific star they are talking about. other than that its just a hobby. Some people like to build lasers, some collect them, some just playing around with them (pretty impressive if u point the laser to someone who lives 5 kilometers away and they can clearly see the laser in the sky)

@Bigdeal100
It is nice to see u taking my advice seriously. Good luck on your way of becoming a competent and reasonable Vendor. U will figure pretty fast that it will pay 1000X if you are being real.
Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: signal16 on March 15, 2013, 03:39 am
how about >5mw infared gun lasers?
Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: oldcactushand on March 15, 2013, 12:06 pm
Ah, those sorts of lasers. It's just strange because of the emphasis everyone seems to be putting on burning things with lasers... I saw people with one of these at a festival and was definitely jealous. Am I correct in thinking these things are legal (in the UK)? I'm assuming they are basically the things that you see at raves...

Oh how I mocked. And now I want a laser and to be a part of your community.
Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: PizzaBrain on March 15, 2013, 02:09 pm
Theyre legal in the UK, but the green ones are banned for sale now because of a few cases where people altered or blocked helicopter pilots visibility.
In that case, they could see where the beam originated from and the man was arrested and fined as an example.

when you're pointing a 150mw laser at the sky and hear/see a helicopter passing by, it's one of the first thing anyone thinks to do. I've even been with someone who shone one in someones eyes from half a mile down the road(after i told them to avoid eyes) and was still standing around shining it when the guy came walking past. he was like "what you shining that shit for, youve give me a headache?!"
then a police car drove past and the shone it through the back window and into their front windscreen mirror in the drivers face.
the car stopped, flashed it's siren then speedily reversed up to us, everyone had to run and hide inside the house for the next 15 minutes.
I think i heard the spectrum of the blue, purple and ultraviolet (invisible) beams being even more damaging to the eyes.

RGB laser shows are one of the coolest things i've seen, especially the more expensive ones that can be computer controlled (probably with open source software)
maybe that's something Bigdeal100 can think about selling sometime in the future.

Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: Bigdeal100 on March 15, 2013, 02:29 pm
Hi PizzaBrain:

You are so kind ..
Thanks for your understanding and  support. Your message makes more comfortable.Later  I will do more work to improve my product and make my store better.
I know there are many  different voice On the SR  about my product ..Now I don't want to shout up. I just do the best I can do. I hate lying..
I know my English is not very  good to explain well any question I met .I just do my best to meet the buyer's demand .
Anyway ,Thanks so much ....

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"b0m?"

Way to fuck up a vendors rep before he's even earned back his $500 bond.
I suggest you go back and take some of the accusations out of your posts and suggest the vendor openly disclose quality issues and therefor reduced price (as much as he can reduce i presume, with the worry of possibly not earning his bond back in time)

You wouldn't go to wallmart or radioshack and complain (in the form of banners outside and in-store graffiti) about their cheap consumables or electronics that are all overpriced chinese plastic crap.

If you don't want to buy something, walk on.
I'm not a laser nerd, but would have checked out the sellers page. arent most lasers from china? How is he to know about their quality without running expensive tests? There are much worse and dishonest laser salemen than this guy. This thing could happen to anyone.

Give him a fucking break, you hardly let him get in the door.. come on!

Have a little consideration for people who have to pay $500 to sell stuff here.
That works out more expensive than a good few years domain hosting and webspace with an advertising package etc.

If you had a reasonable concern, you could of messaged him about it and filled him in on what you know, maybe he could of talked with his supplier about it or changed suppliers altogether and resolved the problems you see.

They might have been totally valid, but i'm sorry to say the way you went about it really offended me, and no doubt will offend many others. calling him a liar several times and spewing slime like "fuck i hate u"

Quote
And stop lying about your products. worst thing u can do as a seller. lying to the people who pay your bread. fuck i hate u. get this : customer is KING. and that will NEVER change


You wouldn't spend the time to hack or deface a laser website so don't post anti-sales vulgar scum to any vendors thread without at least speaking to them privately about your issues.
Totally uncalled-for and LOW
Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: Bigdeal100 on March 15, 2013, 02:42 pm
Hi oldcactushand:
Welcome you become my fun .Before you play  the lasers ,I want to give you some of advice .Because  the laser is very bad for eyes ,no matter it is strong or not .you can't shot the person's eyes . When you play the soooo strong blue laser ,you'd better wear the special glasses for protect your eyes..

Have  a good weekend
Bigdeal100
 :) :) :) :) :) :) :)


 
Ah, those sorts of lasers. It's just strange because of the emphasis everyone seems to be putting on burning things with lasers... I saw people with one of these at a festival and was definitely jealous. Am I correct in thinking these things are legal (in the UK)? I'm assuming they are basically the things that you see at raves...

Oh how I mocked. And now I want a laser and to be a part of your community.
Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: Bigdeal100 on March 15, 2013, 02:50 pm
Hi ,signal16:
I don't know what it is now ,can you give me some information ( link or pictures). I will keep my eyes on to look for it ,If i can find the good quality gun laser ,I will PM you ASAP.
 :) :) :) :) :) :)
have a good weekend .
Bigdeal100
how about >5mw infared gun lasers?
Title: Re: "Lasers" , fly to you safely , Nomatter where you are !
Post by: oldcactushand on March 15, 2013, 03:38 pm
Don't worry, I won't be buying a laser for a while yet. When I have a few hundred laying around (this is unlikely in my life), then cool. But a question about it being bad for the eyes... First off, I would not consider shining such a thing in someone's face, or at an aircraft, or a police car (?!). But are you saying these lasers, when shining into the sky for example, can damage the eyes of those looking at it? That sounds terrible, but I'm guessing you mean wear goggles for safety in case you accidentally shine it into your own eyes...?