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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: joywind on June 26, 2013, 02:35 am

Title: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: joywind on June 26, 2013, 02:35 am
I feel like I have to be on SOMETHING to get through the day. But I'm not addicted to any one drug. It could be LSD on monday, adderall on tuesday, weed wednesday, ketamine thursday, etc. It doesn't matter. I hate my ordinary stat eof consciousness. But I just smoked way too mcuh weed

Is this bad?
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: Festivalia on June 26, 2013, 02:48 am
I feel like I have to be on SOMETHING to get through the day. But I'm not addicted to any one drug. It could be LSD on monday, adderall on tuesday, weed wednesday, ketamine thursday, etc. It doesn't matter. I hate my ordinary stat eof consciousness. But I just smoked way too mcuh weed

Is this bad?

Tbh, if you inspect hard enough you will find this is the case for MOST people, especially Americans. Be it scripts, or diets, gambling, sex, masturbation, smoking, weed, or even just over-zealous routines, work outs, running... etc. we are addicted to chemical reactions and communication pathways in our brains.

Moderation is the key.
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: DMtryptamine285 on June 26, 2013, 02:54 am
Its because we are hardwired to seek out pleasurable experience, and through classical conditioning we learn to repeat the experience that caused the rewarding response. Just like pavlovs dogs where trained to salivate at the sound of a bell because it signals that food is coming. We are very instinctual creatures.
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: Festivalia on June 26, 2013, 04:35 am
Its because we are hardwired to seek out pleasurable experience, and through classical conditioning we learn to repeat the experience that caused the rewarding response. Just like pavlovs dogs where trained to salivate at the sound of a bell because it signals that food is coming. We are very instinctual creatures.

+1 for the anology. And the intelligent post... refreshing to see people not just talking for the sake of being heard.
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: valakki on June 26, 2013, 07:31 am
same here. I just need something. When I was younger this urge would sometimes drive me to do crazy shit like huff butane... (dont try that) Now i got it under control. I  think.
The only thing I ever got  really  addicted to was smoking and drinking.
Thank god I quit those.
I don't use legal drugs. Not even coffee.
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: b0lixtrader on June 26, 2013, 08:07 am
A proper term used by many would be a "polysubstance" user or addict.

Someone who likes anything to get fucked up on and mixes them.

I love bud, coke, opiates, shrooms+lsd, mdma, and benzos so I am a polysubstance user as I often also mix drugs.
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: adamiz on June 26, 2013, 12:52 pm
I find myself doing weed every day. Not in a huge amount, but still every day.

Other drugs I try to use them less but I believe thats because I cant afford them so easy. (thankfully I can say  ;D )

Adamiz
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: musichighlife on June 26, 2013, 12:54 pm
I would have to say yes, I love altering my consciousness through many means but not all. Psychedelics, weed, and benzos are my drugs of choice.
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: DrWalterB on June 26, 2013, 03:17 pm
I wouldn't say I have to be on something, I just enjoy the buzz it gives :) on occasion. Lookin forward to sampling some LSD again soon after years away from it. Smoke weed/hash and do a little coke.
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: TorXic on June 26, 2013, 09:41 pm
not everyday, but every time me and my friends meet, we need to do something.

last time a friend (girl who don't want fuck with me :( ) came at my house, we were drinking but was not enough,  so we had a look in the drugs drawer of my parents, and we found clonazepam!
fun night!

it wil be a problem in the future, and/or all the times I will go out with people who don't take drugs at all.
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: SourGrapes on June 26, 2013, 10:58 pm
Yes, i am definitely a poly-substance abuser. i prefer opiates, benzos, alcohol, marijuana, barbiturates, and 'downers' in general. off and on, i am physically addicted to various substances -- i can't count the number of times i've been through withdrawal from alcohol, benzos or opiates... right now i'm dependant on opiates, and possibly benzos as well (i'm not sure on the benzos atm.) i just need to slow my mind down, drive out the panicky anxiety and depression, and calm myself down/provide some comfort... any way i can. since drugs are the most pleasurable coping mechanism for me, that's the route i choose. plus, with the opiates and MJ, i live with chronic pain that can be severe, so that both necessitates opiate/medical MJ use and exacerbates the depression i self-medicate for.

as for whether it's 'bad,' well, i think that is subjective. if you're unable to cope with daily life without some sort of crutch, i wouldn't call that healthy. more than likely there are some psychological stressors you're avoiding with your drug use. but some people use drugs as a crutch. some people use religion. some use alcohol. some use computer games like World of Warcraft as an escapist technique. any of those methods can be used moderately, or it can be overdone and ruin lives.

some people can handle everyday drug use and function, some cannot. if you're going to use something every day, just try to understand why, and try to keep grounded. take a day off now and then to reconnect with your non-drug self, and maybe examine the root of the need to be high all the time. try to take breaks to avoid becoming physically dependent on anything, and to avoid avoiding your own consciousness completely. don't lose sight of who you really are or why you're doing whatever it is you're doing.
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: mcguire39 on June 26, 2013, 11:13 pm
To a degree yes, I really enjoy mind altering substances, but I tend to stay on the 'light and natural' side such as alcohol and cannabis. I do try herbals such as kava and such from time to time; imho those work better as companions to something else though. I am interested in trying shrooms. Mostly I like to stay with non-synthetic / non-manmade things. I had some bad experiences with RC's a few years back. I like kratom to a degree as well. I like to have a few things I can 'rotate' through rather than do the same thing every day.

But I have kind of an addictive personality. I know I would probably love cocaine, but I'm afraid to get into anything much 'harder' for fear of getting too drawn into it. I know I would love opiates, I tried some CWE on some T#3's before, very nice. With substances I can seem to manage to keep my regular life together. The funny thing is I love video games too. But I have completely sworn off video games. Those will keep me up until 4AM when I need to get up for work at 6AM. Video games for me is actually worse than substances.
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: Kingkilroy on June 26, 2013, 11:34 pm
Story of my life. I started with weed and tobacco but when i would run out, this feeling would slowly creep in, A boredom of sorts but so powerful it would literally make me physically uncomfortable, like sitting on  plane for ten hours, no matter what. Well unless i got high. As a previous used said, when i was younger it would drive me to do almost anything. I snorted pills i found washed up from a river thinking they were Norco's ( They wernt, Best guess is they were Anti-seizure pills :-[ ). I have plenty of similar stories with drugs you cant really abuse, or ones that are stupid legal highs. All embarrassing and stupid ideas. I have control of myself now, being able to go sober when necessary, but that feeling is still entirely there, if not stronger. Drugs are still the only thing to relive this, and trust me ive tried plenty of other ideas to help keep my mind off it. But it dosent really worry me, i don't spend all my money or use when its a bad time, and as far as i can tell i am in control of it all.
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: Ben on June 27, 2013, 12:54 am
I'm not really sure how to answer it.

First of all i am a regular smoker, so just due to that i am 'on something' whenever i'm awake.

Besides that i use benzo's and like a good drink, which sort of ends up in benzo's during the day and drinks at night (i am aware of the dangers of this combination).

For me some other drug, for example cannabis, does not replace any of the above. At times i enjoy smoking a joint with friends, but that would be a less than weekly thing, and not something i ever crave when i haven't smoked pot for a while. Things like mdma or opiates i use very rarely, and i don't think there is much substitution going on there. At one time i did notice that an injection of 20 mg morphine made my craving for a smoke go away after surgery, but that is just a single event, and not a habit it'd like to exchange for another at all.
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on June 27, 2013, 04:25 am
I've felt this way at points in my life.  Mainly being constantly stoned on weed.  Recently though I've learned to enjoy the sober periods as well though.  It makes me appreciate being fucked up even more when it is only on occasion.
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: The Missus on June 27, 2013, 04:29 am
Man I smoke weed all day errday.



Yes I am concerned a bit with my health. That is why I bought a vape.
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on June 27, 2013, 04:36 am
Man I smoke weed all day errday.



Yes I am concerned a bit with my health. That is why I bought a vape.

I did too and also bought a vape.  Actually like five different kind of vapes and oil pens.  Lungs can't take it anymore like they could when I was younger no matter what I try.  And vapes still allow sticky film to coat the inside of them!
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: RS7FI8ZRkm on June 27, 2013, 04:39 am
Its weird cause I smoke weed everyday.. an go about my daily duties fine.. but when I don't smoke I feel more stupid, forgetful an pretty much cabbage when i don't smoke weed... anyone else experience this
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: The Missus on June 27, 2013, 04:41 am
I'm gonna start taking month long breaks sooner or later. I'm glad I'm not throwing cigarettes and hookah (like a lot of people my age around here are doing) into the mix though along with my weediction. And since I got a job so that's helped me cut down a lot.

I feel the same RS7. I feel like this empty morsel and I can't even eat right :/
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: ritzlover on June 27, 2013, 04:59 am
I agree that Americans are just addicts to STUFF in general...could be new clothes, could be a needle in your arm....

I pretty much need to get high every day, I'm not ashamed to say it. My mind is so overactive. And yeah, if I can't have my DOC, I substitute. I was completely sober for about seven months last year and it was nice...but rather boring and ridiculously restrictive. Got tired of it.

I really like excess but....I know moderation is best.

That's what I'm aiming for.
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: Festivalia on June 27, 2013, 12:36 pm
I easily smoke 4-5 grams of weed per diem, myself. That doesn't include dabs, and edibles.

I do Oxys like 2-4 days straight, once a month.  I do coke, only really when I'm getting aches after an Oxy binge.
I eat shrooms, acid, and smoke DMT. Acid for concerts, Shrooms for at home... DMT... well, it doesn't really matter, as long as I have somewhere to chill. :P

Benzos... meh... if I'm desperate for sleep. Adderall? NEVER. I used to itch for it when I was a teen. Such a shitty lifestyle/addiction.

And my mind is pretty open to everything else.

Before the age of 14: I've shot morphine(Holy fuck), snorted heroin(damn.), snorted cocaine(eh...), snorted Oxy40s, snorted adderall+speed, freebased coke(foil-crack, it wasnt terrible), freebased meth(fucking gross), and smoked wet, and mad weed.

After the age of 19: Freebased N,N, DMT(yay!) freebased 5-meo-DMT(holy FUCK) snorted, eaten: 2C-i(decent, not my thing tho), 2C-b(meh), 25i-NBOMe(ew), LSA(ew), LSD(yay!), Shrooms(yay!), Hash-oil Elixir(Nooooooo I'm mellltttinnnggg forrreever), and mad dabs and weed.

I've been smoking herb for 20 years. :P
Title: Re: are you addicted to drugs in general, but not any particular drug?
Post by: TreadLight on June 27, 2013, 01:43 pm
Shrooms are the only drug I do, though I am looking forward to trying LSD. Shrooms just don't seem to lend themselves to taking everyday due to the speed with which tolerance sets in. Fortunately the tolerance wears off in a week for me.