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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: pyrat13 on April 29, 2012, 08:35 am

Title: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: pyrat13 on April 29, 2012, 08:35 am
okay, so lets say you had something very potent and concentrated for sale. something that should NOT be in the hands of someone who didnt know what they were doing.
this person assures you that all is okay, pays for it and you ship the item. that person now informs you they intend to use this item to commit suicide, now what?
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: ConcernedCitizen on April 29, 2012, 09:00 am
Not much you can do here. If you are still in contact, try to dissuade them obviously, but you are (assuming) not a professional psychologist. Perhaps send them some online resources that could help out, like http://www.reddit.com/r/suicidewatch
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: mungingout on April 29, 2012, 09:15 am
You shouldn't feel guilty whatsoever, had you had knowledge prior to selling to him/her I'm sure you wouldn't have. Unfortunately there is not much you can do
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: lambofgod on April 29, 2012, 09:20 am
youre right, i wouldnt have.... but i'm sad now.
and i wish there was something i could have done bc i can sympathize with those who have felt like suicide was the only way out at one point or another
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: genghar on April 29, 2012, 09:28 am
If you really wanted to do something, you could call the police from a payphone.  Tell them nothing, obviously, except for the fact he's a friend.  Might be too risky if you don't want the possibility of your relative location revealed.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: cerealbox on April 29, 2012, 09:50 am
it's their body, they have the right to do what they want with it.
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: pyrat13 on April 29, 2012, 09:52 am
thats the thing though, everything i can think of doing risks the security of myself or silkroad
then i feel selfish for even worrying about that bc a human life is at stake here
i dont even know if they are still alive! the tracking says it got there today
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: hatedpatriot on April 29, 2012, 10:54 am
If I made up my mind to die, I would not want others butting in. His life might truly suck and stopping him may just be like torture. You didn't sell it with that knowledge, so youre straight. Just try to understand how dude feels, he might be ready to die.
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: blackend646 on April 29, 2012, 01:34 pm
I don't mean to sound cold here, but it sounds to me like he is trying to guilt you for some reason, maybe for free product? Or maybe just a cry for attention. If I was going to kill myself with drugs I bought from SR, I would never message the vendor I bought them from and tell him, that's just low. Why would anyone want their last act on earth to be making someone else feel miserable in guilty? I doubt this person actually plans on committing suicide, most people who are legitimately suicidal keep it to themselves.

Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: hatedpatriot on April 29, 2012, 02:09 pm
I thought about that too. It seems doubtful that anyone serious would tell anyone.
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: ravc on April 29, 2012, 02:33 pm
perky/pyrat13/lambofgod all the same person, fuck off perky. This guy posts the same bs almost every single god damn day don't see how no one picks up on this shit. fucking useless troll.
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: blackend646 on April 29, 2012, 03:48 pm
LOL holy fuck you're right, it is probably perky. I dunno how I missed that
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: Mecajesus on April 29, 2012, 06:29 pm
I'm not sure what I would do..
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: longissimus on April 29, 2012, 07:01 pm
You did nothing wrong. If you are posting this because you feel bad, you shouldn't. You supposedly had no prior knowledge of this, how could you be at fault?
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: Bud on April 29, 2012, 08:22 pm
Let the fucking idiot fucker kill himself. 'one less idiot in the world.
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: snipeemfl0 on April 30, 2012, 02:32 am
If I went to a gun store, bought a gun, and killed myself, would the gun store clerk be responsible? No. Would they FEEL responsible, more than likely. That's a asshole move to do that, stupid people are stupid.
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: lilith2u on April 30, 2012, 04:59 am
You can kill yourself with anything......step in front of a bus....take a nap on railroad tracks.......be black and wear a hoody in a gated neighborhood. Or drugs which is far more humane....peace
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: davebowman on April 30, 2012, 10:56 pm
"I have explained the only valid reason existing against suicide on the score of mortality. It is this: that suicide thwarts the attainment of the highest moral aim by the fact that, for a real release from this world of misery, it substitutes one that is merely apparent. But from a mistake to a crime is a far cry; and it is as a crime that the clergy of Christendom wish us to regard suicide."

Arthur Schopenhauer
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: JimPooley on April 30, 2012, 11:18 pm
Pyrat13, Lambofgod, Perky... All the same account holder...  Why do you keep posting this same shit under a different thread every day?
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: pyrat13 on May 06, 2012, 05:48 pm
who are those other users you keep accusing me of being?
Also, i kinda got over it. time solves all problems i think yall were right they left me shit feedback afterall after they were supposedly "dead"
they gave me a deadline and everything it was practically extortion.
i have a new question,
where is Noriega these days? cant get a response on SR from them
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: SoopaRolla on May 06, 2012, 07:47 pm
who are those other users you keep accusing me of being?
Also, i kinda got over it. time solves all problems i think yall were right they left me shit feedback afterall after they were supposedly "dead"
they gave me a deadline and everything it was practically extortion.
i have a new question,
where is Noriega these days? cant get a response on SR from them

/thread
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: cacoethes on May 06, 2012, 10:42 pm
okay, so lets say you had something very potent and concentrated for sale. something that should NOT be in the hands of someone who didnt know what they were doing.
this person assures you that all is okay, pays for it and you ship the item. that person now informs you they intend to use this item to commit suicide, now what?

If this was a total stranger taking the time to inform me that this is what they intend to do with it, I would have a hard time taking them seriously, and probably call bullshit on them.  And that would be the end of it.

They should be crying for help to someone actually in a position to be able to help them, not a random, anonymous person on the internet that can't do a thing about it.

I have very mixed feelings about suicide when it actually happens, but I tend to get really pissed when people THREATEN it.
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: Prawl42 on May 06, 2012, 10:48 pm
be black and wear a hoody in a gated neighborhood.

I lol'd :)
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: danknugsdun on May 06, 2012, 11:09 pm
How would you know they committed suicide?

Not like they can leave you good feedback cos it done what they wanted.
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: DrummerBoy on May 07, 2012, 09:10 am
Hated Patriot totally nails it.  You see when people are depressed and want attn they often play the suicide card.  In college I minored in psyche and worked a 24 hr crises hotline. We had to go through a 16 hour training session put on by a local University in coalition with 911 / emergency services city of _________, 3rd highest suicides per capita in the country at that time.  Very very rarely when someone is truly suicidal do they think hmmmmm, i guess I should call the crises line (or email this seller at SR) before I do this.  lol kinda funny when think about it.  Some cities have put in suicide phones on major bridges now.  The idea is right before people jump they will pick up that phone and call.  I suppose it helps people get into treatment for major depression but I really dont think a suicide minded person thinks ok, lets see, i am ready to jump now but gotta pick up that phone and call it in.....
Title: Re: If you sold something and the person who bought it used it for suicide......
Post by: DrGonzo on May 07, 2012, 10:02 am
That sucks dude, but its not your fault, and there's nothing you can do.