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Title: Peyote
Post by: anon9796 on September 23, 2012, 02:35 am
Don't know how it would even work, but I know peyote is on my bucketlist of drugs left to do.  BTW SR has made that list alot easier to get through. 
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: THUMBSuP. on September 23, 2012, 03:42 am
let me know if you find any peyote!
i have seen some mescaline HCL on here..
but who knows how that goes..

good luck!



/thumbs
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: parabol on September 23, 2012, 04:46 pm
The problem with peyote is that takes years to grow. I'm in South America very near to a desert. I have enough Peyote for 100x lifetimes but never wanted to sell on the streets. Maybe SR is the way to go but first I must do a lot of research into packaging, even though is a rare drug and most k-9 are not trained to smell it.

Also I don't know, I guess South America is a very flagged continent.
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: Neville Fucking Bartoz on September 23, 2012, 05:37 pm
The problem with peyote is that takes years to grow. I'm in South America very near to a desert. I have enough Peyote for 100x lifetimes but never wanted to sell on the streets. Maybe SR is the way to go but first I must do a lot of research into packaging, even though is a rare drug and most k-9 are not trained to smell it.

Also I don't know, I guess South America is a very flagged continent.

Yeah but Peyote isn't illegal here in the UK, or a lot of other European countries as far as I know, so I for one would be well up for getting my hands on some of yours and you should have no problem shipping them here. They're easy enough to buy over the clearnet, but it's expensive as fuck to buy a useful amount, if your prices are competetive, I'm in!
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: parabol on September 23, 2012, 05:57 pm
So is legal in UK and mostly Europe? how about USA? How are the prices going on on the clear net, I'll seek some myself but not right now. Also I think this Peyote is far powerful than self grown, something about real desert sun and soil, seek most dry desert in the world or flower desert, that is where mine are grown.

I'll be sending dry buttons and maybe tell how to properly prepare them. I'm still thinking about it though, maybe if more people requests it...
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: Neville Fucking Bartoz on September 23, 2012, 06:05 pm
In the US it's only legal if you're a member of the Native American church, protected as a religious sacrament. Here in the UK and some other European countries (you will have to check which ones I'm not sure) live Peyote cactus are definitely legal, I've seen them many times for sale, usually fucking expensive like £50 for one mature button, (that's roughly $30US I think) so enough buttons to trip will be stupidly fucking expensive. However I'm not 100% about the law once the buttons are harvested and dried, San Pedro cactus dried is very commonly and legally sold, but never seen Peyote buttons offered, I always assumed this is because they're rarer and take 5 years or more to grow. If you get a vendor account and offer these please let me know.
I assume you're in Mexico?
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: parabol on September 23, 2012, 06:35 pm
£50 for 1 button!? That's insane considering that most of those Peyote probably are still premature and grown indoor. I tell you that my Peyote don't have low doses. I have several, they are very old and big and very potent. I'd say low dose (still very high for street standards) 1-2 buttons, mid 3-6 and high 7-10+

I must say you are convincing me. Why can't I have a Vendor/Buyer account? What are the problems with that? since I wont sell same product I buy.

I'm in Chile.
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: Neville Fucking Bartoz on September 23, 2012, 06:47 pm
Yeah the ones I saw advertised they were suggesting 7-8 buttons per dose, indoor grown in Europe,( I'd love to grow one some day), but no doubt your desert grown cacti will be far superior!
I would definitely recommend you use different accounts for vending and buying, you don't want people to have access to your address if you're a vendor.
I don't think you'd have any trouble selling them, mescaline in any form is scarce. Personally I'm never buying anything here out of escrow or from someone without a vendor account (nothing personal).
I'm pretty interested in botany and didn't realise you had wild Peyote in Chile, that's really interesting to know, thanks.
Also I do recommend you check the laws about Peyote, as I said they're definitely legal here alive, not sure about dried buttons, obviously them being illegal doesn't stop you selling them here, but it might effect how you ship them.
Please keep me updated if you actually do this, feel free to PM me.
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: parabol on September 23, 2012, 07:21 pm
Oh you are right, the address thing. If I sell them it will be definitely in Vendor Account and Escrow.

Chile have wild San Pedro's and Floripondio, I've never seen a wild Peyote. The ones I have were grown by my uncle, he died and left me all he had including his Peyote.
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: Neville Fucking Bartoz on September 23, 2012, 07:34 pm
There is a thread here somewhere "so you want to become a silkroad vendor" with loads of advice for people who want to vend and heaps of experienced vendors who'd be willing to give you help and advice, I'd highly recommend you do your research, for your own safety amigo, much as I would love to get my hands on those Peyote I would really hate the thought of somebody who lovingly grew them risking getting busted over a few cacti.

That makes a lot of sense that the Peyote was cultivated, I was really surprised when you said they were growing in a Chilean Desert, never heard of Peyote there! I would possibly be interested in San Pedro too, they are legal and very easy to buy here, but I never have partly because they are so fucking expensive, and partly because there is a lack of reliable information how best to prepare them, and I didn't want to spend a fortune then waste them, I'm guessing you would be a good source of information on how to use cactus most effectively. I don't think I'm familiar with Floripondio species, maybe I know it by another name?

Please stay in touch with me if you go ahead with this, I'm genuinely very very interested.
Gracias
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: anon9796 on September 23, 2012, 09:33 pm
Yeah getting some real peyote would be awesome.  Ive seen seeds on here but who has 5 years to grow it.  I ordered san pedro cuts from amazon but had a hard time preparing them.  I ended up getting a mild buzz but nothing to write home about.   
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: eskimoplea7 on September 23, 2012, 10:08 pm
I have started growing it outdoors and i still have a long while until pups arrive
having them grow fast would ruin the whole spiritual part of consuming it. i have grown to love my cacti
and am looking forward to eating some in 10 years or so and then passing them on to my children.
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: blowdrobro on September 23, 2012, 11:49 pm
Add my night to the list lol. I've heard some great things about it but, sadly, I've never tried it.
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: parabol on September 24, 2012, 03:05 am
£50 for one mature button, (that's roughly $30US I think)

Actually that is like $65US! Is that for the whole cacti of just a cut and dry button?


I would possibly be interested in San Pedro too, they are legal and very easy to buy here, but I never have partly because they are so fucking expensive, and partly because there is a lack of reliable information how best to prepare them, and I didn't want to spend a fortune then waste them, I'm guessing you would be a good source of information on how to use cactus most effectively.

In that case you are better buying a low size alive San Pedro and grow it yourself. It grows really fast unlike Peyote, but require much more amount for doses. They grow about 1m a year here, and its diameter increase about 15cm. Indoor in a city I guess it would be half of this. The selection of the cacti is important, the "real" cacti needs to be about 2m or more before cut. I say "real" because you probably will be getting cuts of another big cacti, this is recommended for less wait time, so an accurate way to measure is by diameter,  healthy adult San Pedro has about 30 and 40 cm of diameter. Be careful and look a lot of San Pedro's pictures before you buy so you know you are not getting scammed, or even carry a picture of one with you when you buy.

Good Tip: You just cut the top, clean horizontal cut at about 20cm from top, then cut another portion to consume, then put the top back on the base and it will heal and wont die, just keep growing, so basically one cacti will last a lot. Here they can grow up to something like 10m.

Peyote on the other hand requires about 15 years to get to a mature state and they grow in a form of a big rock.


Mature San Pedro, they grow nice flowers.
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=9c2fbe8f35fefe4cd951e542d3337576.jpg

Mature Peyote
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=5f88693866f7c33285576a7952834b87.jpg


The alkaloids of both are extremely stable so there are many ways to make them ready for ingestion. You can actually eat dry peyote buttons little by little without doing nothing to it, but it tastes bad and, since you are not used to it, probably your stomach will reject it making you vomit which is bad for achieving a good trip. San Pedro needs more preparation.

I can give more insights if you want, as for becoming a vendor, give me a couple of weeks to think about it and research.
King Regards
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: Neville Fucking Bartoz on September 24, 2012, 10:02 am
The Peyote I saw sold on clearnet were about £50 or more for a 4/5 year old living cactus. I tried to grow a San Pedro once, but it was pretty small, indoor grown, and it got destroyed before I could ever use it which was really upsetting. Maybe I will have another go, in future.
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: parabol on October 05, 2012, 02:31 am
That is sad to hear. You had it for many years?

I had lot of people interested that are letting me know by pm. I'm still doing the research, its seems it would be better to send the already smashed and prepared Peyote in semi liquid form, for the volume and stealth factor. This is also good so costumers don't have to do it themselves leaving the horrible taste. I can even offer variety of flavors. Do you know anything about sending liquids?
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: THUMBSuP. on October 05, 2012, 08:21 am
fill the container to the brim and make sure you cannot hear a slushing around sound..
that's a dead give away.. and the weight can't shift, at all.
they have machines that they can just drop the package on and it rolls it around and if the weight shifts to a certain extent, it's deemed liquid, or something a long those lines. sketchy!



/thumbs
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: parabol on October 13, 2012, 02:45 pm
Thanks, the result is not 100% liquid though, it end in something like pulp. Like the remains of squeezed fruit.
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: Neville Fucking Bartoz on October 23, 2012, 02:44 pm
Personally I think liquid/pulp would be more likely to attract attention in the mail, and so I'd be more comfortable receiving dried buttons, but I'm open to suggestions.
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: parabol on October 23, 2012, 05:23 pm
I think you are picturing a big package, the result size ends up in something like shampoo sample. Much easier to hide than buttons. I'm still doing research and testing though.
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: Stuffed Crust on October 23, 2012, 06:27 pm
I believe you should just sell the buttons, not a solution. I believe having the material in its original form is important in a ritualistic sense, it can also then be administered in any way of the buyer's choosing. Then again my first time doing peyote was in a proper sweat lodge ceremony so the ritual seems of utmost importance to me. It may prove harder to ship, but I'm sure you could figure a stealthy way to send whole buttons without too much effort. I would be very interested in getting a decent amount of buttons to save for a very special occasion.
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: WishiwasForum on October 23, 2012, 07:18 pm
Parabol Go for it man, so many people want cactus/mescaline and you have a free unlimited supply. It's a no brainer
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: eskimoplea7 on October 23, 2012, 08:21 pm
I WILL BUY SOME RIGHT NOW
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: parabol on October 23, 2012, 10:10 pm
The one thing that is holding me back is the insane ineptitude of my country's postal service. I had completely legal internationals and national orders arrived two and half months later, for just a bubble envelope! That is not rare, that is lucky! There are many packages lost. Are you up for waiting all that time and maybe it never comes? How can I hold Escrow like that? Also I guess South America is a big red flag in other countries.

The thing that worries me the most is completely wasting various amounts of my precious Peyote. I guess I'll never know until I give it a try, if goes wrong then I just stop. Maybe something like only shipping to first 10 placed orders for testing and see how it rolls. I see all seem to want the raw product, I guess that's gonna be it, its my plan b packaging.
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: mmm2300 on October 24, 2012, 01:30 am
Parabol, whether you are selling liquid/pulp or dried buttons, you are still helping remedy the extremely small supply of mescaline products that are currently found on the road. I vote dried buttons, but whatever works better for you is what you should do.
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: anon9796 on November 04, 2012, 04:29 am
Yeah whatever you decide would be great.  Peyote is one of the last entheogens I have left to try.  Good luck man. 
Title: Re: Peyote
Post by: Neville Fucking Bartoz on December 04, 2012, 02:32 pm
any news on these peyotes?