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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: markwest on March 05, 2012, 09:00 am
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to start things off mine is zubrowka vodka with cloudy apple juice and a slice of lime
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Shit, son. A bottle of Captain Morgan's Parrot Bay Coconut Rum in a PiƱa Colada or chased with some Sunny Delight makes me a drunk(and happy) bitch.
Got alot of memories with that shit. <3
That AND Burnette's Vanilla Vodka, but I know that at least probably 90% of people will cringe at the thought of vanilla vodka, lol! I'm not old enough to buy it, I told my friend I wanted vanilla Coke and he comes back with Burnette's Vanilla Vodka. Cracked my shit up... Oh man, those were good good times. :')
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anyone else here who doesnt drink alcohol?
just not a drug for me
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Talisker single malt Whiskey... Undoubtedly one of the best!!
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Beer all the way. Don't really care for the brand, but usually Amstel, Heineken or Bavaria. Preferably with a line of coke on the side.
If we're out of beer, rum cola is fine too. Nice sweet Havana club.
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anyone else here who doesnt drink alcohol?
just not a drug for me
it shouldnt necessarily be treated as a drug (despite it being one)
people might be able to derive enjoyment from flavor of certain drugs, i have always found chemical powders disgusting in taste, i also dont enjoy smoking weed anymore but when i did i never really savored the flavor. it was always a means to an end, nice tasting puff was just a bonus.
but its very easy to enjoy a cocktail purely on its flavor, without viewing it in the context of a vehicle for drunkenness.
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Aussie VB :P
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I love me my alcohol. Beer is what I drink most often, but my favorite drink is a Chocolate Martini. Off the hook!
2 oz of Vanilla vodka
2 oz (Clear) Creme de Cocoa
Small splash of Baileys Irish creme
Shaken not stirred, lol. And then take some grated bakers chocolate and sprinkle on top. Real good drink. It tastes like a chocolate tootsie roll.
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beer, whiskey and white russians yuumm
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Yes, I drink beer and prefer Rolling Rock, but I absolutely LOVE vodka
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anyone else here who doesnt drink alcohol?
just not a drug for me
I RARELY drink. most of the time I don't get drunk either just a good buzz 8)
Wild Turkey 101 whiskey and 3 generations Tequila are bomb though 8)
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Vodka, Crown Royale, Jager, and most of all RUM! Whether with soda or in a Pina Colada, I love it!
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Irish Whiskey 1 part water, 1 part whiskey, yes im a wimp ;D, despise un flavored vodka, i think it tatse like straight alchol with no flavor. Rum is good too. But i have 3 drinks max, drinking is too much work too little pay off, plus im special apparently cuz my gag reflex only gets stonger when i drink, like 4th shot and ill vomit for sure, and im not even that drunk, takes around 9 shots to black out. So here i am 18 and ill ready over drinking
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I chose rum because I love rum flavored cigars, so obviously it goes great as a drink with it. Nothing better than a drink, nice cigar, and some bud. 8)
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Lagavulin for me, one ice cube in a quadruple in a big tumbler. Nothing else comes close.
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AUSSIE CARLTON DRAUGHT!!!!
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it shouldnt necessarily be treated as a drug
First off, in moderation, I am definitely not saying anything negative about the recreational use of alcohol. I am merely commenting on society's inappropriate portrayal and acceptance of EtOH as something less dangerous and destructive than a "drug"
PLEASE explain to me, seriously, how you justify such a statement in your own twisted reality. I am honestly wanting you to provide any even seemingly approaching rational explanation for such a frankly confusing and myopic comment
also, please do not respond as you did in the last thread when I asked for a clarification of what exactly you meant. I questioned the validity of the phase "socially acceptable" and in response you said well obviously E was more socially acceptable than H (which is the exact thing you said initially just rephrased). Bro you missed the entire fucking point I was talking about...
ALL you did was say alcohol shouldnt be treated as a drugs and then provided a number of SUBJECTIVE experiences which quite frankly dont mean shit when it comes to the classification of a molecule.
If anything, maybe you are correct and alcohol should not be considered and drug, and society should start portraying alcohol as the POISON it truthfully and more accurately is given the at least three or four hundred people who DIE every year in the US from alcohol POISONING. Every year thousands of additional deaths are related to alcohol in the US just not directly poisoning. EtOH is one of the leading causes of deaths for teenagers and young adults as well as a huge percentage of adults, is involved in a huge portion (i think majority) of fatal traffic accidents. The societial costs of alcohol alone rival that any illicit drug, many even combined... Every time I drink alcohol I cant stand the taste and it tastes foul and disgusting, and was just a means to an end of feeling like I was poisoned and regretting my actions.
If you are measuring things subjectively... I very frequently take a hit on my bong for the flavor but do not get high. I just like the act of smoking and the lovely taste. My driving skills are not impaired so therefore marijuana should not be considered a drug obviously. It should however be considered a medicine given the fact how many states allow patients to use it for the scientifically confirmed medical benefits, so it shouldnt be treated as a drug. Marijuana has NEVER killed a SINGLE person, so obviously it is safe and should not be treated as a drug. Do you see where I am going... marijuana is certainly still a drug even though it is also a medicine.
For you to say alcohol should not really be considered a drug because you enjoy sipping on it but dont enjoy toking on a bowl of weed is asinine. It goes back to your belief because alcohol is legal and more acceptable in the eyes of society one can dismiss its negative qualities and even the safety considerations that come into consideration when consuming a drug.... you should keep in mind society is horribly misinformed and frankly completely uneducated. What they find to be socially acceptable is not a decent indication of what is appropriate for ones own life. only you should be deciding that, which was my point on the other thread about "socially unacceptable" heroin use...
Sorry if I was ranting but I absolutely hate the stigma society places on drug use when they simply do not even understand the realities regarding the drugs that are currently legal! and i hate to see these idea perpetuated further without me saying how I feel about the situation.
Love to all, even markwest who I completely disagree with :P
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I'd have to say Jameson or any good Irish Whiskey. Red Breast is by far my favorite but too expensive for me. But a really good Pale Ale is hard to beat. Dogfish Head (a brewer in the US) is my fave beer maker.
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Would you like a drink? ..... Bar's over tharrrrrrr...
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to start things off mine is zubrowka vodka with cloudy apple juice and a slice of lime
Ah Zubrowka, the finest Polish vodka! Tyskie (another Polish alcohol) is my favorite beer, unfortunately the only liquor store that stocks it is a 30 minute drive away. =(
I loved to experiment with different types of alcohol until I came upon some charts illustrating the adverse health affects of several drugs in relation to one another. In terms of damage and addiction, alcohol ranks third behind only heroin and cocaine... crazy huh? I am still open to try absinthe, however, seeing how it recently had its legality overturned. =)
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Macallan 18 year
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Cognac
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it shouldnt necessarily be treated as a drug
First off, in moderation, I am definitely not saying anything negative about the recreational use of alcohol. I am merely commenting on society's inappropriate portrayal and acceptance of EtOH as something less dangerous and destructive than a "drug"
PLEASE explain to me, seriously, how you justify such a statement in your own twisted reality.
where i stopped reading. i actually did explain it but it seems you didnt quote the whole post.
my point you took out of context was that you can enjoy the flavor of an alcoholic drink in 1 sip, not with a view to even getting a buzz, you cant do the same with mdma, speed, coke, heroin ect. all of those drugs (with the exception of h as ive never tried it, though im sure its the same) taste horrible (personal opinion) if you gum a bit of anything like those drugs you will get a buzz, however mild.
it was at this point where i decided reading the rest of what you said, and in my head i was thinking "i bet they are one of these weed warriors" but i tried to be objective...
people are only poisoned by alcohol because they drank buckets of the stuff, really. they certainly werent enjoying the flavor of a small amount as i suggested. a handful of people die in the usa from drinking too much water. when you flood the system with something it cant handle in quantity then thats what will happen.
if you are honestly saying that you smoke weed then get behind the wheel of a car then you are an irresponsible dickhead imho. weed has killed people before actually, when stoned people operate heavy machinery. something for you to seriously consider. seriously.
weed is bscly never enjoyed purely for the flavor. a bong hit will get you high, be serious, not catastrophically stoned, but come on. the competition in weed smoking is to find the next most thc rich bud, where it becomes more and more about the high. if you are saying you have lit a bong, smoked it, not felt any effects at all, then said "well that was nice tasting, right thats enough" then either the weed was fake or you're a liar.
i think the main problem is you havent had the right drink. try what i suggested at the start of the thread, if you dont like that then maybe you're allergic.
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Beer (belgian specialty beer or german lager) and absinthe.
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i must ask, whats nice about absinthe? ive never quite understood it.
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i must ask, whats nice about absinthe? ive never quite understood it.
Getting fucked up.
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Everclear mixed with LSD.
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The best beer in the Americas is Club Verde, excellent hoppy lager from my adopted home of Ecuador, it's won Gold Medals in Belgium and has just started to export, it is a lovely crisp and dry with a full bodied flavour, truly it's the only good beer in this country but it is very good.
Any single malt whiskey is a treat, very hard to get here, Ardbeg is my favorite but quite impossible to get. I've switched to drinking rum straight or with ice and lime juice, I can get very nice rums much cheaper than any whiskey.
I have got into Malbec (Red Wine) from Argentina and I like Merlot as well but I haven't been able to stomach much red wine recently, seems to make me sick too easily.
Puntas/Wanchaka our local moonshine is a great 180 to 190 Proof alcohol and at $2.50 the gallon it really is the cheapest way to get fucked and it doesn't give you a bad head ache either, I've got a soft spot for it but I've learnt to treat it with respect because you can drink too much too easily.
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The best beer in the Americas is Club Verde, excellent hoppy lager from my adopted home of Ecuador, it's won Gold Medals in Belgium and has just started to export, it is a lovely crisp and dry with a full bodied flavour, truly it's the only good beer in this country but it is very good.
When you say "the Americas," do you mean Latin/South America or the United States as well? I'm very interested to try it upon reading your delightful description. :)
Oh and I almost forgot to add my favorite liqueur, Advocaat! It's an incredibly rich and smooth liqueur made from egg yolks. It's ironic seeing how Advocaat also means laywer in Scandinavian... I guess the reason why it appeals to me so much is because I am one. ;P
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Beer! Duvel specifically, a bit pricey, but worth it
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where i stopped reading. i actually did explain it but it seems you didnt quote the whole post.
my point you took out of context was that you can enjoy the flavor of an alcoholic drink in 1 sip, not with a view to even getting a buzz, you cant do the same with mdma, speed, coke, heroin ect. all of those drugs (with the exception of h as ive never tried it, though im sure its the same) taste horrible (personal opinion) if you gum a bit of anything like those drugs you will get a buzz, however mild.
it was at this point where i decided reading the rest of what you said, and in my head i was thinking "i bet they are one of these weed warriors" but i tried to be objective...
people are only poisoned by alcohol because they drank buckets of the stuff, really. they certainly werent enjoying the flavor of a small amount as i suggested. a handful of people die in the usa from drinking too much water. when you flood the system with something it cant handle in quantity then thats what will happen.
if you are honestly saying that you smoke weed then get behind the wheel of a car then you are an irresponsible dickhead imho. weed has killed people before actually, when stoned people operate heavy machinery. something for you to seriously consider. seriously.
weed is bscly never enjoyed purely for the flavor. a bong hit will get you high, be serious, not catastrophically stoned, but come on. the competition in weed smoking is to find the next most thc rich bud, where it becomes more and more about the high. if you are saying you have lit a bong, smoked it, not felt any effects at all, then said "well that was nice tasting, right thats enough" then either the weed was fake or you're a liar.
i think the main problem is you havent had the right drink. try what i suggested at the start of the thread, if you dont like that then maybe you're allergic.
markwest, Do I have to quote the entire message for my post to apply to it? Just because I didnt quote the entire thing, since my posts are long enough already, does it mean I didnt read all of it... no, much to the contrary my post clearly even discusses the later subjective part of your post as well.
Honestly, once again you didnt even READ my post, comprehend and respond to my question throughout your entire post... I asked you WHY you think alcohol should not be treated as a drug. You just jumped to conclusions and started attempting to defend yourself by attacking me erroneously
*** I do not deserve and really do not appreciate you suggesting I am a "dickhead" and a "liar" ***
You said alcohol should not be a treated as a drug because you think someone can enjoy a sip without getting drunk... and I enjoy a hit of marijuana for the flavor without getting high. I simply used marijuana as an example because it is similar to alcohol as a legal (in some places) recreational drug but this does not make me a weed warrior. I only was being faceitious and called EtOH poison, so didnt want to do so without some legitimate fact to back my claim... I even stated I have no vendetta against alcohol use and support the recreational usage for those who enjoy the effects.
Please do not call me a liar which I take offense to and you have absolutely no right or evidence. Many strains are also grown for the aromas, appearance and flavor not just potency. Each has a unique taste that I savor much in the same way people compare beer or wine. I however have been smoking daily for years and have a tolerance, so one hit will not get me high. I will take a hit ONLY for the flavor, especially in the case of purps I smoke less than I need even get a buzz in order to conserve. How am I a liar??? And then I will go and give my friends who are too trashed to drive a ride because it is SAFE for me to drive, much in the way it would be safe if I had drank one beer. I am in absolutely no way impaired, high, stoned, or anything... How does this make me a dickhead??? If you really think I am a dickhead, I dont frankly fucking care what you think about me, cause your approval couldnt mean less to me given your attitude and ignorant unenlightened perspective of the world. If you want to say how you feel, so will I: you are astonishingly disrespectful and so narcissistic it disgusts me. My point still completely invalidates your argument regardless of whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
By the way, those people did NOT die from marijuana, they died of physical trauma :P people actually die from the toxicity of alcohol was my point...
I was honestly just curious why you felt that way and stated such a thing, I think you should always at least have a rational foundation for your beliefs and be able to explain your reasoning. You should not just base your beliefs on something trivial like "socially acceptable." Instead you just essentially disregard everything I say and arrogantly reiterate the point without acknowledging the errors in your thought process. I would still appreciate it if you would just think about and explain to me why you believe alcohol shouldnt be treated as a drug. Give me a definition, anything other than your subjective opinion that every drug tastes like shit except alcohol...
Please show me the respect I deserve. With love always,
- microRNA
PS. A relationship with the women I love just ended so if I sound irritated obviously I am, please excuse me...
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i must ask, whats nice about absinthe? ive never quite understood it.
I must admit it's mostly the mysterious air hanging around it. ;-) But I do like the taste (but there are many other liquors with comparable taste). The high alcohol percentage, if you drink it pure, can be a kick too.
I never experienced getting high from the thujone. At least nothing that wasn't overshadowed by the alcohol.
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markwest I would appreciate your response to my question, it was sincere and I am just curious why you feel alcohol should not be treated as a drug? if you want to make a claim just back it up with something substantial. thank you in advance for your response
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I'm not much of a drinker at all but I do appreciate a good glass of absinthe.
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markwest I would appreciate your response to my question, it was sincere and I am just curious why you feel alcohol should not be treated as a drug? if you want to make a claim just back it up with something substantial. thank you in advance for your response
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im going to stick to my guns here, if you operate a motor vehicle under the influence of anything you are a dickhead. people shouldnt drive even after one beer, but that was calculated to be an acceptable amount of alcohol for a person to consume without becoming too drunk to be unable to drive, it was to make the idea of being the designated driver sound slightly less dull. this was something calculated in consultation with sociologists aswell as scientists. there has been no such study on the acceptable amount of smoke from "purps" "afghan kush" "johhny bastards long jizz... ect" before your reaction times are too fucked for driving. its irresponsible. there are loads of pissheads who actually thought they were better drivers right up until they plowed through a family car. its not an issue of me having respect for you, its about you having respect for other road users.
i have already explained how it is possible to enjoy a sip of a drink for the flavor, given thats not good enough for you im not going to repeat myself. you can pair wine with food, not for the buzz, but for the flavor. you can also pour wine and other alcohols into your food during the cooking process to alter the taste of the food, whilst the alcohol is burned off. litterally a way to enjoy alcohol without viewing it as a drug. dont try to tell me that ANYONE puts skunk or hash in their food with the exclusive purpose of it being a spice. doesnt happen, and given the thc doesnt leave the food it cant.
my point was never that alcohol should never be viewed as a drug. just that on occasion it is possible to do so
ps sorry to hear about your bird
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to start things off mine is zubrowka vodka with cloudy apple juice and a slice of lime
So you like Polish vodka ha? Good! Me too! I'm a big fan of Polish potato vodka: Schopen and Belveder... then again, I'm biased :)
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The best beer in the Americas is Club Verde, excellent hoppy lager from my adopted home of Ecuador, it's won Gold Medals in Belgium and has just started to export, it is a lovely crisp and dry with a full bodied flavour, truly it's the only good beer in this country but it is very good.
When you say "the Americas," do you mean Latin/South America or the United States as well? I'm very interested to try it upon reading your delightful description. :)
The Americas is most definitely referring to all of it, the USA is just one part of America and I won't allow myself to refer to the USA as "America" when the US is just one part of the A.
I am pretty sure that Club is beginning to export to the USA this year, it might not be all over the Americas yet but it is the best anywhere in this hemisphere.
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my point was never that alcohol should never be viewed as a drug. just that on occasion it is possible to do so
Thank you for your response MW. I simply am curious about your perspective.
I agree that there are many uses for ethanol other than just simply intoxication... however, I really dont understand how/why you dont see that alcohol is also a drug. You say EtOH should NEVER be viewed as a drug??? I just simply can not rationalize in any way what exactly you mean or why you think that. It is a certainly a molecule that people commonly and frequently ingest with the purpose of altering their state of consciousness. No matter the other beneficial uses for a molecule, if it fits that definition it IS a drug as well. imo you cannot disregard an aspect of something and only focus on those aspects you desire... all aspects must be taken into consideration even if not applicable to all specific circumstances.
What I mainly disagree with is society's portrayal of Drugs and Alcohol... my points were just that alcohol most certainly is a drug in addition to all its other uses, but when it is used as a drug people should not discount the fact it has serious risk for addiction and other dangers... it is not safer, less of a "drug," or more acceptable just because it is legal.
I agree that ethanol has other uses than just being a drug. Do you not agree that alcohol is also a drug... and appropriate to consider it as such?
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MW your thoughts on my reply to our discussion would be appreciated when you have the chance. Thanks
Has anyone ever tried a sour beer? A year or two ago when I still drank occasionally I tried a few of these with have high contents of lactic acid, producing a sour taste which was actually very delicious for a beer. The bacteria lactobacillus is used in the starter culture which produces the unusual fermentation product. I have also tried one that was started on a base of cherries I believe, so it was more like a sour wine and was also a very interesting EtOH beverage. Is there anyone else here that has tried other unusual types of brews or any special beers worth mentioning?
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I will take a good, high quality beer over anything. Kwak, Duvel, Delirium Nocturnum, Gulden Draak, pretty much anything Belgian. The UK has some good ones as well - I love Sam Smith's Oatmeal Stout so very much. The USA has a few good varieties; I like pretty much anything brewed by New Belgium, and Terrapin makes some really interesting beers. Honestly, I could go on and on and on about beers. It's a passion.
If it's gonna be liquor, it's bourbon. Maybe a little lemon lime soda to mix, or just ice. I also enjoy red wine, though I keep to the sweeter end of the spectrum. Cabernet generally just burns my mouth out.
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thats actually really interesting you mentioned terrapin, if its the brewery in GA i am very familiar with it. they certainly do have some good brews. Nothing beats a terrapin at the Globe with a gypsy folk band playing upstairs... How i miss those days. i thought terrapin was a lesser known name.
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They may be in GA, I'm not sure. They have a lot of really unique varieties that I love. And that does sound like a great time!