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Title: I need friends
Post by: missunshine143 on April 02, 2012, 02:28 am
like the topic says, I need friends. I mean those friends who's willing to do drugs with me for the fuck's sake. I want to/plan on dropping some cid this week while watching "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" but I don't have anyone to drop with or even sit with me. This is depressing. I DO have a friend who's a deadhead but she's traveling out of the country for the next few months and won't be seeing her until August. That's just not enough. Almost all of my "friends" judge me 100% for the fact that I talk about how awesome LSD/Shrooms is. ughh.

tl;dr. I have no friends who would do drugs with me. How did you find yours?
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: blackend646 on April 02, 2012, 02:43 am
I'd imagine it would be harder to find friends who don't do drugs, unless you are older than say 30. Me and my friends who do drugs all went through our high school years together so naturally we were all experimenting. Maybe try going to a music festival?
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: davebowman on April 02, 2012, 02:51 am
Your friend sounds awesome because the grateful dead are awesome, its too bad shes away. I found my friends by being a weed smoker in an educational institution. It just sort of happened on its own. And I've outgrown weed since then.

Most homeless people will hang out with you if you give them stuff, like cigarettes or drugs. And if you treat them respectfully.  But it might be a bit much to round some up and bring them over to watch a movie.

Sometimes you can convince friends who don't usually do drugs to try them. Or you can get high by yourself, which I know is miserable from experience.

If you need some motivation to engage life, I would recommend reading the Will to Power by Friedrich Nietzsche, you can find it online. I find it empowering, but I'd say to read it critically because parts were edited by Nazis in way which misses the point. Definitely read book one. Or try some of his other works.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: wannabud on April 02, 2012, 03:18 am
Where do you live? Vatican?
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: flicky42 on April 02, 2012, 03:57 am
omg I'm in the same boat as you. I have no friends that have interest in the same shit as me here in college. You'd think it'd be easy to find someone that would want to drop molly and go to a rave or candyflip and go outside or something in college. I need a girlfriend
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: PriscillaMarie90 on April 02, 2012, 04:06 am
I'll be your friend!

Haha but chances are we couldn't get high together. I can't tell you how to get friends to get high with, but I will give you some advice:
Don't get friends that are ONLY you friend because you get them high.

That's the story of my fucking life. If you give people the chance to use you for something, they won't think twice, they will bleed you dryyy.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: marsvolta12 on April 02, 2012, 04:19 am
I'll be your friend!

Haha but chances are we couldn't get high together. I can't tell you how to get friends to get high with, but I will give you some advice:
Don't get friends that are ONLY you friend because you get them high.

That's the story of my fucking life. If you give people the chance to use you for something, they won't think twice, they will bleed you dryyy.

its a fine line between a drug buddy and a real friend. the lines get blurred and people forget, but always make sure you can differentiate. if you can try to not have drug buddies period, and find like minded individuals you get along with that like drugs.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: mrgrey on April 02, 2012, 04:30 am
really homless people!@   geez...

if you want to meet like minded individuals, goto where people like you congregate.  bookstores, coffee shops, head shops, festivals, concerts.  every half decent city has a marley fest or reggae fest atleast once a year.  we are lucky and even get a jerryfest in august, and anyone you meet there could be a potential friend. 

just always differentiate between friends and using friends.  not that they are mutually exclusive by any means, but just cause you share a joint i wouldnt share your life story, atleast not right off that bat ;)
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: wannabud on April 02, 2012, 05:27 am
Don't get friends that are ONLY you friend because you get them high.

Yeah. Don't do that unless your friends are really hot.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: risky2 on April 02, 2012, 07:12 am
I'd like to drop two common sayings with regards to drugs and friends, " A friend with weed, is a friend indeed.", and "Never trust a junkie".
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: Limetless on April 02, 2012, 08:25 am
Go on a pub crawl!
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: febbraio2468 on April 03, 2012, 10:16 am
like the topic says, I need friends. I mean those friends who's willing to do drugs with me for the fuck's sake. I want to/plan on dropping some cid this week while watching "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" but I don't have anyone to drop with or even sit with me. This is depressing. I DO have a friend who's a deadhead but she's traveling out of the country for the next few months and won't be seeing her until August. That's just not enough. Almost all of my "friends" judge me 100% for the fact that I talk about how awesome LSD/Shrooms is. ughh.

tl;dr. I have no friends who would do drugs with me. How did you find yours?

I'll be your SR buddy on here Miss SS, maybe we should start a club or something.


Feb
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: missunshine143 on April 04, 2012, 06:19 pm
LOL thank you all. and yes. we probably should start a "club". Sometimes I wish that I could post on my fb saying "Dropping acid this week and watching fear and loathing, anyone wanna join?" but no...I'm decent and proper. I believe that psychedelic drugs should be legal with some ramifications such as an age limit or medically controlled like provided by a doctor. There's studies that shows alcoholics dosed with LSD has a better chance at sobriety than with AA meetings and therapy. I'm going off on a tangent but yes.

We all need a friend who would be accepting of everything we do otherwise, there's no reason why they should be our friend. There should be an irl anonymous club where everyone's on a first name basis and are encouraged to do our respective drugs together and share like-minded ideas/thoughts. I'm glad that we have this forum so we can connect to one other even though it's via a computer screen/keyboard.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: outoftime20 on April 04, 2012, 09:57 pm
I have the same problem. Wanna smoke together on skype?
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: bast on April 04, 2012, 10:42 pm
Just go to a local dive bar on a college night, or some sort of event, based on what you like (rock concert, dance party, rave, etc.) and just talk with people there who look like they do drugs. I was out of weed once and couldn't get any from people I know, so I just went to a scummy-but-cool bar and made friends with someone who looked like they smoked, and low and behold, they sold me the best weed of my life, and I never saw them again  :(

If you're willing to share and have a good crazy-dectector, just meet random people. At least you'll get a good story out of it....
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: perky on April 05, 2012, 01:37 am
friends are over rated when you have more then 3..

i dont have friends that participate in the drug culture it sucks.

and yea ill be eating shrooms by myself at night it will be fun alone in the comfort and safety of your own home...i do need to plan a movie and some tv show to watch though.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: PriscillaMarie90 on April 05, 2012, 01:42 am
I have the same problem. Wanna smoke together on skype?

I DO!
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: missunshine143 on April 05, 2012, 02:34 am
Here's the thing, without giving way too much information about myself, I have a disability that prevents/hinders me from communicating with others verbally and I have severe social anxiety (that only can be resolved if I have someone I know extremely well with me). This bothers me so much because I know that I'm an intelligent person and totally able of having awesome time with people. It's so frustrating to sit in a room full of people and not being able to muster up enough courage to attempt communication and feel extremely lonely. Without the common ground, I wouldn't have friends at all in the first place. This is the only place that I can express my frustrations because this is an anonymous forum and most of you probably could understand where I'm coming from (hopefully).

Every time I'm tripping, either on shrooms or LSD (sometimes both if one ends up being a bad trip, I take the other to make it a good one), I watch The Big Bang Theory, it makes me feel like these people on tv is my group of friends, this is where I belong. The type of characters that's being performed on BBT is the type of friends that I would love to have. Geeky, smart and fun. It sounds stupid and sad but during the trips I have, it's the best thing in the world. 
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: Regicide on April 05, 2012, 03:05 am
In the past I've used the dating site plentyoffish.com and there was an option of setting your profile purpose/goal to "hangout", "long-term relationship", "intimate", etc. There are a surprising number of people on these sites that are actually just interested in meeting local friends.

I set my profile looking for "hangout" and met various people, of the same and opposite sex. Some led to simple friendships, and some to not-so-long relationships, but hey, I was just an asshole back then, so it was my fault. You mentioned you wanted "geeky" friends, and I do believe there are sites for that niche crowd as well.

You seem like a great person and I'm sure you would be a great friend if I knew you irl.

Good luck!  ;D

Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: Lightbulb-breaking on April 05, 2012, 11:26 pm
I met my friends in University because we all sat on the steps and smoked outside. Luckily, it turns out we have more than that in common and it just turned out we were all interested in drugs/ were willing to gain an interest. You'll be surprised how open minded people can be concerning that sort of thing. Other shared interests are a better way to start, however the bonds formed in some drag crazed blitz to the End of the Night can be surprisingly strong.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: Wonderland on April 06, 2012, 12:32 am
I am in a similar situation myself.. no good friends to get high with (i do mostly opiates). I just recently got my bf to do pills with me but he is still a little freaky about it. I dont have 'friends' other than people at work, and I rarely hang out with them more than once a month, if that, plus they are all younger than me. Ive always been a loner and a shy, quiet person, and most people would be shocked to know the truth about me! My closest 'friends' know i did some hard partying in the past, and a later rehab stint, but thats about it. I have a 'sweet little good girl' personality about me... which has kept me out of alot of trouble ;) over the years...  When i tell people about my hardcore addict and rehab days their jaws literally drop. They just cant believe it because im so "cute and sweet", and seem so 'level headed and bright', lol. This has also kept me from finding my own local hookups.. its hard for me to talk to people in the 1st place and even if someone was dying for a customer, they'd for sure think i was an undercover LEO or something.  A blessing, but also a curse. = )
I feel ya.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: Regicide on April 06, 2012, 12:58 am
I met my friends in University because we all sat on the steps and smoked outside. Luckily, it turns out we have more than that in common and it just turned out we were all interested in drugs/ were willing to gain an interest. You'll be surprised how open minded people can be concerning that sort of thing. Other shared interests are a better way to start, however the bonds formed in some drag crazed blitz to the End of the Night can be surprisingly strong.

The number 1 thing I miss about being a smoker (and probably the only thing): socializing.

You go to a loud bar, you can meet some people, sure. But go outside for a smoke and everyone is talking! O have met countless people as a smoker because of this. In any situation, a smoker needs to change the scenery because of many of today's anti-smoking laws in many regions. When you go outside and stand for a smoke, there is often others there to chat up. I still go out for smokes with people because I like the whole idea of going outside for "fresh air"(in my case  :P). But I definitely don't suggest taking up smoking or continue if you want to quit.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: whirlwind on April 06, 2012, 01:55 am
Also in your boat; traveling has been lonely for me at times.

A few of my friends are always itching to trip but always seem on the fringe of a bad trip while doing so. Its like they always wanna double down on their bad experiences and try again. Not sure if drugs are helping them. It also puts some stress on me during the trip.

Anyway, this caught my eye:

Every time I'm tripping, either on shrooms or LSD (sometimes both if one ends up being a bad trip, I take the other to make it a good one), I watch The Big Bang Theory, it makes me feel like these people on tv is my group of friends, this is where I belong. The type of characters that's being performed on BBT is the type of friends that I would love to have. Geeky, smart and fun. It sounds stupid and sad but during the trips I have, it's the best thing in the world.

Somebody I was talking to once said that not only does it become apparent who we really are when we are in these heightened states of mind, but it is a time when 'mental programming' can be done permanently affecting our personality, for better or for worse. I am undecided whether making strong emotional bonds with fictional television characters will have a positive effect in life. I could see it resulting in increased social difficulties. Not to say i don't completely dive into some movies myself when i smoke weed. Guess I have never had the attention span while tripping.

Nevertheless I feel for ya and unfortunately dont have any new suggestions for finding drug-savvy friends :(

Happy travels!
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: Purplesky on April 06, 2012, 07:13 am
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Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: Keyser_Söze on April 10, 2012, 03:15 pm
Will also my friend being?
Not many peoples from my place of home in my new city and so I am alone most often. BUt we have the webs for friending nows!!
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: somahaoma on April 11, 2012, 06:05 am

I'll be your SR buddy on here Miss SS, maybe we should start a club or something.


Feb

I'd join that club  ;D and I totally would love to be ur SR friend as well!!

I have the same problem. Wanna smoke together on skype?

I DO!

@PM90 we should have a puddle sesh on skype sometime!! haha..

cheers

Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: Jaurk on April 11, 2012, 06:08 am
The way I found drug friends, is to keep your ears out, bring drugs up in topics every now and then.
If you hear someone talking about it, join in.
See if anyone knows anything about drugs, then you're most likely got someone who uses.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: Limetless on April 11, 2012, 11:18 am
Dear Miss Sun Shine, my name is Lim and I will be your mate if you would like.

On another note, I used to be quite introverted myself when I was younger but now I'm a little bit older I'm the total opposite. One of the biggest contributing factors for this was my discovery of MDMA. I popped my first E when just before I turned 15 but I didn't really understand what MDMA was all about. When you are that age you do it "To get buzzin'" and be cool but as I got a bit older and I realized that the people who took it to be cool didn't really understand what MDMA can do for you and your personal development if used correctly and in moderation. When I started to do it with a few close friends at our houses etc it showed me that it is ok to form bonds with people and express yourself and be real because ultimately every individual needs to do that it's a basic psychological need. If you think about people with social problems, particularly those that are extremely violent and unpredictable most of the time it stems from a lack of ability to express how they feel in a positive and productive way. Anyway long and the short of it is that using MD in those settings allowed me to let go of my hang ups and now I'm about as extroverted as you get, maybe a bit too much sometimes! :P

Sorry about the ramble by the way, just seemed on topic and sharing the experience!

Lim
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: gogolak on April 14, 2012, 04:23 pm
thats super you dont got friends, you go high with you, cause if things go bad(i mean really) and you became junky (hope not) and you dont got "normal" friends , cannot get really into normal life cause all your friends are crack heads :D ...but not that i want

Hmm know what u talkin about, but its all about you "integrate" was mentioned here , just its up to YOU  (as i am older i hate personally getting to know new people, because basicaly the "conversation starters" are always the same: music, travel, art etc. - based on the community you are, wish could skip this phase :D ) so yea maybe its hard to connect your world with someone around you, so you must do something for it , or just "fake" it a little, to get some "soulmate". I belive you know some community , just like here SR , where they making sessions and u see... But dont pull on it, should be natural and you see...
On the other hand i must said its also about luck (me personally dont want be friend with everybody´s seems cool, but he is dick actually, and can do drugs also... i can be rather "alone" than prettend some friend ship even i am pretty extrovert). Also got experience i got one semester(half year) at mine school where dont meet anybody who interested meextra and just hang out with regular lads which was not my cup of tea and that is pretty unluck :/ u know.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: ijumz on May 09, 2012, 03:24 pm
I am in a similar situation myself.. no good friends to get high with (i do mostly opiates). I just recently got my bf to do pills with me but he is still a little freaky about it. I dont have 'friends' other than people at work, and I rarely hang out with them more than once a month, if that, plus they are all younger than me. Ive always been a loner and a shy, quiet person, and most people would be shocked to know the truth about me! My closest 'friends' know i did some hard partying in the past, and a later rehab stint, but thats about it. I have a 'sweet little good girl' personality about me... which has kept me out of alot of trouble ;) over the years...  When i tell people about my hardcore addict and rehab days their jaws literally drop. They just cant believe it because im so "cute and sweet", and seem so 'level headed and bright', lol. This has also kept me from finding my own local hookups.. its hard for me to talk to people in the 1st place and even if someone was dying for a customer, they'd for sure think i was an undercover LEO or something.  A blessing, but also a curse. = )
I feel ya.

Woah, you just described me haha
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: missunshine143 on May 09, 2012, 06:16 pm
oh wow, I didn't realize that so many people would read this thread. Thank you all for the support (regardless if you posted or not). This week is my finals week, I'm working on a paper that's due tomorrow. 2 pages down, 6 more to go!

I'm taking time off this weekend after my final tomorrow to visit my dad's burial spot to have a conversation that I haven't had in 15 years. This will be interesting.

Also, on the friends front, I'm more accepting of the fact that I simply don't have friends to trip with or even have a decent conversation with. the last part bothers me more because I want to have people to have an actual conversation with instead of a nicety nice simple and superficial convo with people I knew from high school. I know that I'm an introvert person but honestly would it kill anyone to say "hey, let's have fun"? ugh. I have a friend, she's totally against the idea of tripping on L and shrooms, she's not of the mindset of "it's an once in a life time thing, let's have fun". I can't trip around her because she'd freak out. so a lot of times I'm tripping alone and some times it gets lonely.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: flicky42 on May 09, 2012, 10:16 pm
oh wow, I didn't realize that so many people would read this thread. Thank you all for the support (regardless if you posted or not). This week is my finals week, I'm working on a paper that's due tomorrow. 2 pages down, 6 more to go!

I'm taking time off this weekend after my final tomorrow to visit my dad's burial spot to have a conversation that I haven't had in 15 years. This will be interesting.

Also, on the friends front, I'm more accepting of the fact that I simply don't have friends to trip with or even have a decent conversation with. the last part bothers me more because I want to have people to have an actual conversation with instead of a nicety nice simple and superficial convo with people I knew from high school. I know that I'm an introvert person but honestly would it kill anyone to say "hey, let's have fun"? ugh. I have a friend, she's totally against the idea of tripping on L and shrooms, she's not of the mindset of "it's an once in a life time thing, let's have fun". I can't trip around her because she'd freak out. so a lot of times I'm tripping alone and some times it gets lonely.
Just know that you're not alone. I am currently in a very similar position. I have very few friends and have little to no relationship with my family. I would love to be able to get a close friend to trip with me and experience life with (especially a girlfriend!) but I don't have it. I'm moving on in my life and seem to be going from place to place. Don't give up there are so many people in the world like us we just need to find them. If you attend college look into SSDP they are usually pretty liberal about psychedelics or any other club like it.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: simplyanon on May 09, 2012, 11:02 pm
All my friends are willing to try basically anything but the unholy trinity. So, If I say "Anyone feel like watching a movie and getting blazed? I buy the smoke, you buy the pizza.?" I usually have no problemo.

However, Limetless' suggestion of a pub crawl would work, too. Lol.

Meet new people, be social. Overly so, if needed. Most of my good friends are people that I just walked up to and started talking to.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: ProudCannabian on May 09, 2012, 11:53 pm
I've got three core friends I can usually talk to, but no matter the social situation I can sometimes feel quite alone, even amidst a crowd.

As you get older people change, move, or die, and you rely more on yourself.   My kids are great, but my relationship with my wife has gone downhill significantly the last 5 years.  When I met her she dressed and acted freaky, my cup 'o tea.  We smoked weed and dropped cid together.

These days she will literally scream at me for smoking a bowl in the basement, and blames all her problems on me.  Fuck, I'm the one holding down a full time job, cooking supper every night and putting the kids to bed.  WTF.  The lack of respect from this rich bitch who married a guy from the wrong side of the tracks is really getting me down.  She also doesn't clean anything while I'm at work, she grew up with a fucking maid, and I think she expects me to fulfill that role too or something.

I recently got one of my core friends to try L, and he's fucking gung ho about it.  I find after two or three hours of hanging with him, I have to slip back home though, as I really prefer introspection on my own I guess.

Sorry to share so much in your thread, it's just I know what lonely feels like, and I feel for you Miss Sunshine.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: jewfro on May 10, 2012, 01:34 am
Here's the thing, without giving way too much information about myself, I have a disability that prevents/hinders me from communicating with others verbally and I have severe social anxiety (that only can be resolved if I have someone I know extremely well with me). This bothers me so much because I know that I'm an intelligent person and totally able of having awesome time with people. It's so frustrating to sit in a room full of people and not being able to muster up enough courage to attempt communication and feel extremely lonely. Without the common ground, I wouldn't have friends at all in the first place. This is the only place that I can express my frustrations because this is an anonymous forum and most of you probably could understand where I'm coming from (hopefully).

Every time I'm tripping, either on shrooms or LSD (sometimes both if one ends up being a bad trip, I take the other to make it a good one), I watch The Big Bang Theory, it makes me feel like these people on tv is my group of friends, this is where I belong. The type of characters that's being performed on BBT is the type of friends that I would love to have. Geeky, smart and fun. It sounds stupid and sad but during the trips I have, it's the best thing in the world.

this makes me unbelievably sad... i nearly let a tear sneak through :c

im borderline bipolar - sometimes im so extroverted i dont notice other people in the midst of my hype-ness... and sometimes im so anxious i cant even talk to anyone, whether its a hot girl i want to meet, or some bros burning jays...

valium in social situations is gold, that shit takes away all anxiety like with the brush of a hand :D

alternatively, try a low-dose of mdma or speed - not enough to roll balls, but enough to take the edge off and make you a little more sociable (60mg mdma, upto 30mg speed)

talking to people is key though, you never know who likes to do drugs until you talk to them. then you'll find people jsut like you that love doing and talking about drugs, and im not talking about e-tards, or junkies - regular people who like to party or indulge. go to thigns you like (music shows, etc) and you're bound to find people with like interests.

keep your chin up, things are tough all over. one day we'll all be better off. but probably not soon
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: Tahomas on May 10, 2012, 01:51 am
I'm not sure if anyone suggested this but enroll in almost and community college and you will find like minded people especially depending on the subject involved (try as study of Escher or Peter Max in the arts departments). The problems of not having a psychedelic "wing man" can be vexing but even more so in my 50's. But I still have an available pool due to school.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: missunshine143 on May 10, 2012, 02:11 am
Thank you all for ever lasting support. Tahomas, I'm actually in community college right now. I just applied to the state university for the fall semester but just found out that I didn't get in. I'm not letting that get to me, I'm taking Ballet and Film (two classes that I always wanted to take) in the fall. I'm pretty excited about it. I haven't done ballet in 10 years so I feel like a little girl all over again in a tutu.

LITTLE GIRL IN TUTU ON ACID. this will be fun.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: Hassan I Sabbah on May 10, 2012, 02:45 am

These days she will literally scream at me for smoking a bowl in the basement, and blames all her problems on me.  Fuck, I'm the one holding down a full time job, cooking supper every night and putting the kids to bed.  WTF.
Hey Bro: she sounds a lot like my wife!!!

Isn't marriage awesome?

Thank god for divorce. I'll never do that again.

*User's Don't Lose Drugs!"*
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: BoNgOn on May 10, 2012, 04:45 am
This site probably not best for finding friends, go out to social events where there are people of your age group and start a conversion, pretty easy. If your shy or something go somewhere where alcohol is accepted and drink, your more likely to find a drug user in that environment anyway.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: simplyanon on May 10, 2012, 05:50 am
I'm amazed by how easy some people make this sound.

It IS that easy. Walk up to someone and start talking about something of relative interest. A few minutes in properly introduce yourself. That's how I do things, anyways.

Fucking piss. For some reason the voice in my head when I type is talking in a heavy British accent.

I really don't understand why.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: Trippyskies on May 10, 2012, 07:44 am
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Every time I'm tripping, either on shrooms or LSD (sometimes both if one ends up being a bad trip, I take the other to make it a good one), I watch The Big Bang Theory, it makes me feel like these people on tv is my group of friends, this is where I belong. The type of characters that's being performed on BBT is the type of friends that I would love to have. Geeky, smart and fun. It sounds stupid and sad but during the trips I have, it's the best thing in the world.

have to chime in here.  I think The Big Bang Theory is degrading to men.

anyway, what drugs do you use, have you tried?  some things make people talk if done right, some even gain confidence.  ever try them?
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: LainOfTheWired1984 on May 10, 2012, 07:50 am
Friends come naturally man. I meet a lot of people through work. Do you have a job? Hard to not be cool with somebody that works the same job as you; at least in my experiences that is.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: ijumz on May 10, 2012, 04:38 pm
This site probably not best for finding friends, go out to social events where there are people of your age group and start a conversion, pretty easy. If your shy or something go somewhere where alcohol is accepted and drink, your more likely to find a drug user in that environment anyway.

I'm amazed by how easy some people make this sound.

Same here. It's wayy harder for me. I wish it were that easy for me to make friends i'd have a bunch! I think some people are just more comfortable with themselves, so it's easier for them to talk to new people. I get really self-conscious meeting new people, especially if i'm not fucked up, like i'm afraid i'm gonna say the wrong thing and they won't like me haha. It's pathetic but hard to overcome.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: ijumz on May 10, 2012, 04:54 pm
This site probably not best for finding friends, go out to social events where there are people of your age group and start a conversion, pretty easy. If your shy or something go somewhere where alcohol is accepted and drink, your more likely to find a drug user in that environment anyway.

I'm amazed by how easy some people make this sound.

Same here. It's wayy harder for me. I wish it were that easy for me to make friends i'd have a bunch! I think some people are just more comfortable with themselves, so it's easier for them to talk to new people. I get really self-conscious meeting new people, especially if i'm not fucked up, like i'm afraid i'm gonna say the wrong thing and they won't like me haha. It's pathetic but hard to overcome.

I know this feeling.

Didn't have too much in the way of role-modeling, or basic guidance, growing up (at least I think this might be cause, not sure), so for a large part of my life I was an incredibly tactless individual.

Not so much anymore (or so I'd like to think), but after so many years of living like that it's really hard to shake the feeling that it's better to keep your mouth shut if you don't have a brilliant gem-nugget to contribute to a conversation.

Much easier on forums though, I'm finding.


Dude I get that exact feeling all the time! And like every time I feel like I could make a worthwhile remark, someone else speaks up first and the moment passes. Then I just feel even more awkward! It's especially hard for me in groups of people. Anything more than 3 people and I feel like I go unnoticed.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: promethean on May 10, 2012, 05:36 pm
hookah hookah! I've met some pretty cool people there and we dropped Molly before. But mind you I wasn't the one to initiate conversation with the new folk. I'm such an introvert. The only reason I'm into some particular drugs is because I used to be with someone who introduced me. And now I pretty much only party with my ex who is still a good friend. But whenever I want to get something and I don't know anyone I always have this huge preparation plan built up in my head to just head down to the community college and spark up random conversation. In the end it never goes through and I just sit at home.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: ijumz on May 10, 2012, 05:39 pm
Ya know pipedreamz, I wish there were a name for it, and that it were a treatable condition, but I have no clue! I've kinda come to the conclusion that it's all mental. I stay trapped in my own mind wayyy too much for my own good. I think it's just a negative effect that comes from being introverted. I feel like extroverts just find more joy and fulfillment from being around other people. I like being around people to a certain extent, but I also really dislike the majority of humanity haha. I suppose it's hard for me to find people who are genuinely worth my time that I want to get to know, because there is definitely a difference between drug buddy and friend that I can have an actual conversation with! It really just sucks pushing myself out of my comfort zone, which is what it comes down to. My comfort zone is stay away from/don't talk to people I don't know, but it feels good to actually break free of that and make a lasting connection with someone. This is a rare occurrence for me though :/

Promethean, I do that all the time! There are so many plans I make that sound really good in my head, I just never go through with them haha.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: jewfro on May 10, 2012, 05:41 pm
social anxiety?
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: ijumz on May 10, 2012, 05:46 pm
social anxiety?

That's really the only possibility that has ever crossed my mind. I'm not sure on the exact specifications of that condition though.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: Gary Oak on May 10, 2012, 05:47 pm
Sounds like we have a lot in common ijumz.

Any idea where there's a support community for this condition?

Or, for that matter, what this condition is even called?

I've known for a long time that there was something that separated my personality from that of most people, but I've never been quite able to label what that is or put my finger on it.

For a while I thought it may have been the Asperger's, but after having met people who actually suffer from that I conclude that this is clearly not the case for me.

I would assume there's nothing wrong with you, but rather you merely have a strong introverted personality.

Just an assumption, but I'd say it's safe to surmise that some of you have anxiety/depression problems? If so I'd recommend the amazing therapeutic value of using MDMA with close friends and family, it definitely helped my anxiety. MXE has done wonders for my depression too, but not everyone enjoys dissociatives so I'd probably advise taking Ketamine as I've heard it's better than MXE.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: ijumz on May 10, 2012, 05:55 pm
^ Agreed. Depression is definitely an issue for me. I've done ketamine once. Why exactly are MXE and ketamine considered therapeutic?
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: jewfro on May 10, 2012, 06:00 pm
social anxiety?

That's really the only possibility that has ever crossed my mind. I'm not sure on the exact specifications of that condition though.

all mental conditions are potentially horseshit/don't always describe the symptoms/dont always have the same symptoms for the same conditions, etc.

plus there's all sorts of ridiculous BS comorbidities... people with anxiety, tend to be depressed, people who are depressed tend to be anxious, people with ADD can be bipolar, etc

the lsit goes on. the truth is - it's all in our heads. take a valium if its really bad, go talk to people. seriously. 5mg valium should take the edge off like nothing you've ever tried... if that's not enough 10 to get rolling for sure.

its just possible that 10 might put you to sleep.

seriously though, half a blue and blunt and you're the fucking friendliest, non-anxious mofo on campus.

lolz :s
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: Gary Oak on May 10, 2012, 06:15 pm
^ Agreed. Depression is definitely an issue for me. I've done ketamine once. Why exactly are MXE and ketamine considered therapeutic?

Well my guess is because they antagonize certain receptors in the brain. Not to mention they sort of disconnect your mind from your body, which makes it easier to sort through the different stresses going on in your life and gives you time to just ponder life for a few hours. My favorite thing about dissociatives is that they give me relief from my several medical issues, not to get too personal but I have various aches and pains on a daily basis which MXE numbs. It's only natural that I'd be happier with those effects.

Oh...and it makes music sound bloody fucking beautiful too. ;D
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: promethean on May 10, 2012, 06:16 pm
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Promethean, that's a GREAT idea. It's coming up too, isn't it? Just sucks cause if I wanna do that it's ninety bucks down the drain. Also kind of creeps me out that you know what state I'm in... have I bought something off you before?

Hah. I think you're mistaken. I used to go to a place down in the city but it got closed like six years ago and haven't done it since. Even though I miss it. Oh wait, I lied, I did it with friends at their place but it wasn't the same.


I think it when it comes down to it it's about self esteem. I know I have real shitty self esteem. I'm constantly thinking about what other people think about me. I'm not a fan of downer pills. I find that when I smoke I get anxious and I even still think too much as when I'm sober. Shit is ridiculous. Like some times when I would roll I'd even think too much and ruin my own high.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: promethean on May 10, 2012, 06:25 pm
hey as far as I'm concerned I have no idea what you're talking about and nothing was given away.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: ijumz on May 10, 2012, 06:34 pm
It is technically and scientifically all in my head I suppose but it's damn near impossible to get out of my own head most of the time. I just feel trapped by my own thoughts.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: promethean on May 10, 2012, 06:45 pm
It is technically and scientifically all in my head I suppose but it's damn near impossible to get out of my own head most of the time. I just feel trapped by my own thoughts.

nicely put.
Title: Re: I need friends
Post by: jewfro on May 10, 2012, 07:58 pm
social anxiety?

That's really the only possibility that has ever crossed my mind. I'm not sure on the exact specifications of that condition though.

I think people who have social anxiety have panic attacks when they go out in public. Like actual physical symptoms that cause others to worry about what's going on with that guy. This isn't the case for me either. People with social anxiety cannot bring themselves to go out in public but rarely, and when they have to. My job involves interacting with thousands of people on a weekly basis, so I know I'm not having panic attacks from social anxiety.

The difference between work and interpersonal interactions is I feel that alot of work based interactions are to large extent, already scripted. A few dumb comments about the weather, or mention of something in the news recently. That kinda shit. I can do that flawlessly. I waited table for years.

Promethean, that's a GREAT idea.

while social anxiety and panic attacks go hand in hand, one doesn't exactly necessitate the other. you can have panic attacks from all sorts of other anxiety issues, not just social phobia.

social anxiety can be about more intimate social encounters, as opposed to things like public speaking and all. idfk. im not a doctor, yet.

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all mental conditions are potentially horseshit/don't always describe the symptoms/dont always have the same symptoms for the same conditions, etc.

-snip-

the lsit goes on. the truth is - it's all in our heads.

In my opinion, anybody who feels this way has never had a mental condition.

You make an excellent point about comorbidities though, we have much to learn in the field of psychology still.

I will give the valium a try one of these days though. I appreciate that suggestion.
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lol, i bet i have more mental issues than you :3

i cycle through my mental issues at the speed of light - one day, i cant speak in public, the next im depressed, after im almost manic and cant sleep for 30 hours, etc

to be honest, i think i just have ADD, even with my mental issues - i can't stay focused on just one xD

but in all seriousness - i make a joke of everything, even my mental/physical state and health, so don't be too hasty to judge.

It is technically and scientifically all in my head I suppose but it's damn near impossible to get out of my own head most of the time. I just feel trapped by my own thoughts.

nicely put.

yeah, that's why we have these wonderful medications to help us evict these squatting bastards (from our heads!)

it's literally in your head, and that's why sometimes you can really get some nice clarity with just meditation.

but at the same time - meditation is about using your mind to overcome the physical, and when your mind's a mess, it's hard to do fuck all.