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Title: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: mollysbf on June 04, 2012, 09:31 pm
went to a festival and did some nitrous balloons and had a blast. wondered if anyone had any hook up or idea on the best way of obtaining a tank of it....not just the little crackers you order online
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: the renegade on June 04, 2012, 09:44 pm
I would not want to be the vendor who tries to stealth ship a tank... :P

You'd need to ship that shit on a pallet via freight for it not too look suspicious!!
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: mollysbf on June 05, 2012, 02:07 am
I am looking more for a source to refill tanks. Obtaining them is fairly easy I just need to know how to get the hook up on refills. Not interested in autograde just medical or pharm. I've heard the "nitrous mafia" operates out of Philly and somewhere else i can't remember.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: slybootz on June 05, 2012, 02:15 am
from everything i've heard, the nitrous mafia are some seriously mofo's.  lots of violence for such a 'giggle' of a substance.  ;D

CLEARNET LINK:
http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-07-06/music/hippie-crack-nitrous-mafia-boston/
Inside the Nitrous Mafia, an East Coast Hippie-Crack Ring

If i'm tripping and get my hands on my own personal tank, I would end up hippie cracked out in my tent at a festival for 3 days straight; all my neighbors would hear is the tssssssssssssssssssffffff sound of balloons filling.  That's why I just buy a box or two of whippits before a festival if I really get a hankerin' for some no2
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 05, 2012, 02:26 am
just get the auto grade, which is a small fraction of the price of medical grade and buy/build an attachment to filter out the the sulfur trioxide. its a simple process to filter auto grade. All you have to do is pump it through of filter of activated charcoal, baking soda, and water. this mixture effectively neutralizes the sulfur trioxide, leaving you with a nice pure medical grade NO2. Hell, I have done this in a pinch with some mechanic friends using a gas mask and some baking soda water. there are plenty of instructions on hw to do this on the clearnet if you look hard enough.

But then again I'm also crazy enough to reproduce that NO2 synth from ammonia nitrate they showed on mythbusters using some Ammonium nitrate I got out of a cold compress.(DANGEROUS AND NOT RECOMMENDED)

Do some research and you will save a butt load of cash doing this way, not to mention its way more legit looking.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: mollysbf on June 05, 2012, 02:31 am
I have a huge tolerance from previous surgeries and I only like to do it every once in a while but would love to have a tank at my site to fill balloons. Some of the guys I saw hauling tanks looked hella professional and werent using their own product but some of the same members were absolutely brain dead and could barely do their job...they were over filling and popping balloons. Some would ask if u want one then like forget what he was doing .5 seconds later and start laughing or talking to himself.....Like I said I'd like to have some around for special occassions.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: mollysbf on June 05, 2012, 02:34 am
just get the auto grade, which is a small fraction of the price of medical grade and buy/build an attachment to filter out the the sulfur trioxide. its a simple process to filter auto grade. All you have to do is pump it through of filter of activated charcoal, baking soda, and water. this mixture effectively neutralizes the sulfur trioxide, leaving you with a nice pure medical grade NO2. Hell, I have done this in a pinch with some mechanic friends using a gas mask and some baking soda water. there are plenty of instructions on hw to do this on the clearnet if you look hard enough.

But then again I'm also crazy enough to reproduce that NO2 synth from ammonia nitrate they showed on mythbusters using some Ammonium nitrate I got out of a cold compress.(DANGEROUS AND NOT RECOMMENDED)

Do some research and you will save a butt load of cash doing this way, not to mention its way more legit looking.
I have thought about it but the way I understand it is that if ANY of that other gas that it's mixed with gets into what your hooting then it's like death for sure so idk if I am interested enough in it to take the risk. That's why I am asking for some sort of service, I know someone out there is doing it
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 05, 2012, 03:03 am
While its true that inhaling Sulfur trioxide on its own is almost certain instant death. the amounts added to autograde is mostly just an added scent/ deterant. Don't get met me wrong, it's definitely unhealthy to huff auto NO2 straight and you would probably suffer immediate consequences from trying something like that. it is untrue that tiny amounts will harm you greatly (no worse than taking a big whiff of a stink bomb)
But due to its noxious scent and taste, one would know if they are not filtering properly immediately and there is nothing to be lost by going overboard on filtration.

honestly, it is as simple as putting the output hose of the tank at the bottom of a several foot high cylindrical container that is filled with a slushy mixture of baking soda, water and activated charcoal (which BTW you can get a shitload of by tearing apart an under the sink water filter). If there is any scent of rotten eggs than you need a taller container and more filtration liquid.

It's not rocket science and it is a tried and tested method by many intelligent hippies. For some reason I seem to recall that someone was even selling a premade filter just for this pupose on the road not to long ago
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 05, 2012, 07:02 am
I am aware that you can buy nitrogen tanks at scuba shops but that is completely different from nitrous oxide.

So if you are implying that I don't know shit (If that was directed at me), I must respond that you are the one who lacks proper knowledge of fecal matter. Let alone the difference between nitrogen and nitrous oxide.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: Limetless on June 05, 2012, 09:24 am
Party suppliers supply it because you use it for balloons. :)
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 05, 2012, 04:08 pm
Party suppliers supply it because you use it for balloons. :)

Very rarely, if ever, do they use NO2 at a legit party supply shop IRL. more often than not its helium. The reason being simple: NO2 is heavier than air (as opposed to Helium which is lighter than air).

I cant think of a single time, I have ever seen someone come from a party supplies store with a bunch of balloons that they were dragging behind them on the ground. which is what a balloon of nitrous would do.

As much as I love this place, the lack of proper knowledge about something as simple as this astounds me. Especially when it is to the point of my corrections causing a much higher ranking member to delete his post in shame.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: Mrambulancedriver on June 05, 2012, 04:38 pm
If you want some good nitrous go to Electric Forest. I hear the nitrous mafia was there in full force last year.


The only time i've heard of balloons from a tank being available is at a festival.


Although my girlfriend used to be good friends with a real big drug dealer, he used to get shipments of lbs of cali nug, ketamine, crystal MDMA from Canada, and sheets of WoW family fluff from the midwest.

She said they all went to a free Slightly Stoopid show and had a big party at their house afterwords. She said he brought a tank to the party and everyone was FUCKED up.


I'm not a big fan of nitrous though..
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: oscarzululondon on June 05, 2012, 10:21 pm
Very rarely, if ever, do they use NO2 at a legit party supply shop IRL. more often than not its helium. The reason being simple: NO2 is heavier than air (as opposed to Helium which is lighter than air).

I cant think of a single time, I have ever seen someone come from a party supplies store with a bunch of balloons that they were dragging behind them on the ground. which is what a balloon of nitrous would do.

Actually you're wrong. It's very easy to get hold of, even from party shops in the European Union (Limetless is from the UK). It's served in almost every major club here and also very popular in Ibiza (Spain).

It may be restricted in the US though, I'm not sure. There's no reason to restrict it though, but then again there's no reason to restrict MDMA or K either.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 05, 2012, 10:28 pm
I didn't know that about the UK. We can get it pretty in easy in porno shops in the USA though as well. And If you noticed how I was talking about balloons and helium in my last post, Its because the term "Party shops" in the USA doesn't have the same meaning (We call those places head shops). When you say Party shops in the US, people think your talking about a place where you get birthday party supplies for little kids (like Party City).
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: mollysbf on June 06, 2012, 01:23 am
I'm not implying I can go buy a full no2 tank from anywhere easily I am saying that if you know much about air pressure you should only need a tank that can hold the proper psi and have the correct valve for dispensing the no2. know what I am saying. I will be at electric forest but I am tired of 5 dollar ballons
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 06, 2012, 01:44 am
well the only other way around paying those prices would be if you brought your own...... or the supplies to make a hippie crack tent at the festival (its a ballsy move but its been done before)

all you really need is:
ammonium nitrate (Fertilizer or instant-cold packs)
sand
water
Flask
hotplate
and a couple of long ass tubes (preferably clear but PVC works in a pinch)

you can find detailed instructions here http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8861
or if you want I can post my quick-and-dirty method using stealth items that are easy to bring into a festival.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: mollysbf on June 06, 2012, 02:54 am
I just want someone selling a kit with a complete guide. The guide could be emailed so that when the device was shipped it wouldn't look suspicious.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 06, 2012, 03:10 am
the problem with that would be the the size of the filter tubes. You literally need a couple of 6-8 foot long tubs (we used PVC pipes that were made to look like homemade didgeridoos) and aside from the size issue, everything is super easy to get OTC, so i can't imagine someone bothering to sell it here. The only thing I can imagine being hard enough to source that someone would sell on here is the ammonium nitrate. And you would probably see that in the armory instead of SR.
But if you want, I can write up a complete TEK for you. rather easy to follow
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: PsilocybinTendencies on June 06, 2012, 04:19 am
Where do you get whippets?

I wanna try some nitrous, but I don't see anything on the road.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 06, 2012, 04:24 am
That is because you can get them legally. Try searching amazon and Ebay for "whipped cream chargers". And if your in the states, most porno shops keep them under the counter (gotta sign a waiver and give your ID though  :-\ )
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: slybootz on June 06, 2012, 04:29 am
Many headshops carry whippits (ISI brand usually).  They may also carry the 'whipped cream dispenser' or sell the crackers.  Personally, I use the dispenser because I can just put my mouth to the nozzle without any risk of cold/frostbite, or I can attach a balloon to it.

Typically a box of 24 chargers goes for like 13-15 bucks at a headshop.  Definitely cheaper if you can buy in bulk, but a that point, your back to square one looking at tank prices.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: PsilocybinTendencies on June 06, 2012, 04:33 am
awww its legal?? bummer.

okay thanks guys im going to look into this.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: Marceline on June 06, 2012, 04:35 am
Auto grade nitrous can pretty easily be filtered with a gas mask filter, JUST BE SURE TO GET ONE THAT FILTERS SULFUR DIOXIDE. Be careful though, the filters don't last forever.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 06, 2012, 04:41 am
I mentioned something along those lines, a few posts back. (BTW it is Sulfur Trioxide. Not Dioxide) and the gas mask filter works a shitload better and for a much longer period of time, if you add baking soda and water to it.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: Marceline on June 06, 2012, 04:46 am
I mentioned something along those lines, a few posts back. (BTW it is Sulfur Trioxide. Not Dioxide) and the gas mask filter works a shitload better and for a much longer period of time, if you add baking soda and water to it.
Err, no. It's SO2, sulfur dioxide, at roughly 100ppm.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 06, 2012, 05:25 am
Sorry. Looks Like i misread my literature. You are correct. But it makes very little difference anyways, since sulfur dioxide reacts with the oxygen in our atmosphere to create sulfur trioxide almost as soon as it is out of the tank. (as well as its reaction with H20 to make sulfuric acid, which is the real danger)
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: Limetless on June 06, 2012, 07:07 am
Very rarely, if ever, do they use NO2 at a legit party supply shop IRL. more often than not its helium. The reason being simple: NO2 is heavier than air (as opposed to Helium which is lighter than air).

I cant think of a single time, I have ever seen someone come from a party supplies store with a bunch of balloons that they were dragging behind them on the ground. which is what a balloon of nitrous would do.

Actually you're wrong. It's very easy to get hold of, even from party shops in the European Union (Limetless is from the UK). It's served in almost every major club here and also very popular in Ibiza (Spain).

It may be restricted in the US though, I'm not sure. There's no reason to restrict it though, but then again there's no reason to restrict MDMA or K either.

Yeah this is true. My friend gets it in bulk because he is in that sort of business. Have a right laugh round his house. :P
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: KatEverdeen209 on June 06, 2012, 08:27 am
I've wondered this too.
Why we don't see cheap nitrous tanks around here. Shipping would be a bitch but how bout 50¢ instructionals on how to acquire tanks and shit
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: Limetless on June 06, 2012, 08:43 am
I've wondered this too.
Why we don't see cheap nitrous tanks around here. Shipping would be a bitch but how bout 50¢ instructionals on how to acquire tanks and shit

Yeah as you said shipping would be a BITCH to do but if you need permits and that in the U.S those are going to be fairly hard anyway. U.K it's easy peasy.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 06, 2012, 08:54 am
That is why filtering auto grade is probably the best bet for someone in the US that wants a tank. I've only seen a small medical tank once at a party. And that person supposedly stole it from a dentist office.

But there are a lot of auto shops out there that carry it. And I have heard stories of shifty mechanics that will filter it when they fill your tank for the right price.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: Delta11 on June 06, 2012, 10:12 am
That is why filtering auto grade is probably the best bet for someone in the US that wants a tank. I've only seen a small medical tank once at a party. And that person supposedly stole it from a dentist office.

But there are a lot of auto shops out there that carry it. And I have heard stories of shifty mechanics that will filter it when they fill your tank for the right price.
I have a friend that sells filters so there might be a market for that but at least in Cali you can find shady auto places that will fill up your tank with auto noz and quite honestly people in the party scene don't really care if it's medical grade which is quite sad but hey, it's cheap and you make bank off of it. To me the noz business is really shady which is why I don't touch it but maybe there's a market for the filters to convert auto grade noz to medical grade noz so I'll start gauging interest in those filters!
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: Tyl3rdurden on June 06, 2012, 10:16 am
Nitrous can be bought online from 100s of different websites, it is used to whip the cream on your coffee in starbucks, it is perfectly safe to inhale in moderation (don't sit and do 300 every day) in excess it can deplete your vitamin b12 levels, an important vitamin stored by your body, this can result in nerve damage. You cannot get into any trouble for ordering it for whipping cream.. I used to distribute a lot around the uk. Stopped because it was expensive to post. You cant send compressed gas via airmail either so you have to ship it to other countries. It would be stupid to sell it via silkroad for the above reasons and as it is easily available from 100s of websites legitimately.
Tyl3r
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: jpinkman on June 06, 2012, 11:13 am
I'm not implying I can go buy a full no2 tank from anywhere easily I am saying that if you know much about air pressure you should only need a tank that can hold the proper psi and have the correct valve for dispensing the no2. know what I am saying. I will be at electric forest but I am tired of 5 dollar ballons

Minor correction. no2 is nitrous dioxide, which I hope is not what you're referring to. n2o is nitrous oxide aka laughing gas aka nitrous.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: jpinkman on June 06, 2012, 11:18 am
BTW, why is anyone here talking about whippets? That's child's play compared to having a nitrous TANK that allows you to do nitrous bong hits that force expand your lungs. Just be careful your lips don't become frozen glued to the release valve and you don't pass out with it on your lips. In the worst case scenario that could cause your lungs to explode.

A much safer use of TANKS is the ability to instantly fill large balloons so you can recycle the nitrous by exhaling back into it.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: jpinkman on June 06, 2012, 11:23 am
That is why filtering auto grade is probably the best bet for someone in the US that wants a tank. I've only seen a small medical tank once at a party. And that person supposedly stole it from a dentist office.

But there are a lot of auto shops out there that carry it. And I have heard stories of shifty mechanics that will filter it when they fill your tank for the right price.

Actually that's not the best bet in the US. Auto grade nitrous is pure garbage. Why bother filtering it when you don't have to? A nice compromise between medical and auto grade is food grade. It's not poisonous and those licensed to run a restaurant have access to buy and refill food grade nitrous tanks.

Although if you're slick enough, you can convince the racing shop that you need medical grade nitrous because it's far better for your car. 
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: Delta11 on June 06, 2012, 11:28 am
That is why filtering auto grade is probably the best bet for someone in the US that wants a tank. I've only seen a small medical tank once at a party. And that person supposedly stole it from a dentist office.

But there are a lot of auto shops out there that carry it. And I have heard stories of shifty mechanics that will filter it when they fill your tank for the right price.

Actually that's not the best bet in the US. Auto grade nitrous is pure garbage. Why bother filtering it when you don't have to? A nice compromise between medical and auto grade is food grade. It's not poisonous and those licensed to run a restaurant have access to buy and refill food grade nitrous tanks.

Although if you're slick enough, you can convince the racing shop that you need medical grade nitrous because it's far better for your car.
This is true but most people don't have access to medical/food grade nitrous only auto nitrous which is why filters would be a good investment. I have been to many parties where the nitrous was auto grade noz and the shady gangsters running the tanks were making bank off of it because people didn't care, after all they're chasing the high not the quality. Haha I've even been offered chocolate flavored nitrous.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 06, 2012, 11:36 am
I just don't understand how anyone would not care about the intense burning sensation in their lungs and rancid taste/odor you get from auto grade unless it was filtered to some extent. Having sulfuric acid form in your lungs is not a pleasurable experience and I can't imagine anyone repeating such an action intentionally.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: jpinkman on June 06, 2012, 11:42 am

This is true but most people don't have access to medical/food grade nitrous only auto nitrous which is why filters would be a good investment. I have been to many parties where the nitrous was auto grade noz and the shady gangsters running the tanks were making bank off of it because people didn't care, after all they're chasing the high not the quality. Haha I've even been offered chocolate flavored nitrous.

Food grade is far more common than medical grade, and far easier to obtain. Plus, I wouldn't be getting it to front like a G selling to party tools who don't care that they're sucking dirt. I would want it consume myself.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: Delta11 on June 06, 2012, 11:52 am
I just don't understand how anyone would not care about the intense burning sensation in their lungs and rancid taste/odor you get from auto grade unless it was filtered to some extent. Having sulfuric acid form in your lungs is not a pleasurable experience and I can't imagine anyone repeating such an action intentionally.
I've seen people suck down weather balloons of auto grade noz, terrible stuff really. I guess they really don't care what they put into their bodies so long as they get messed up, this is why I like SR because people here have dignity and wouldn't put crap in their bodies like auto grade noz.


This is true but most people don't have access to medical/food grade nitrous only auto nitrous which is why filters would be a good investment. I have been to many parties where the nitrous was auto grade noz and the shady gangsters running the tanks were making bank off of it because people didn't care, after all they're chasing the high not the quality. Haha I've even been offered chocolate flavored nitrous.

Food grade is far more common than medical grade, and far easier to obtain. Plus, I wouldn't be getting it to front like a G selling to party tools who don't care that they're sucking dirt. I would want it consume myself.
If it is for personal use then definitely go for food grade, medical grade isn't too hard to obtain if you have a connect (corrupt dentist) but they're hard to come by unless you offer them a good deal. I have a connect to medical grade nitrous but I rarely do it, I never offer it to others because quite honestly. it's not worth it, they like sucking on their auto grade nitrous and wouldn't care if it was food grade or medical grade, it really is sad.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: dirtysouthwaffles on June 06, 2012, 10:17 pm
I get mine filled in Philly.
Totally legit. You have to become a member of the filling place first. Only medical grade.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: mollysbf on June 07, 2012, 05:00 am
so are the crackers you buy online food grade? like the ones they sell in some head shops
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: KatEverdeen209 on June 07, 2012, 06:50 am
Crackers are what you crack em open with you are thinking chargers!!!

I find it best to find closing smoke shops to buy mine from.
 I hardly ever pay more than $6 for a pack of 24 =]
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: TheStealthyRacoon on June 07, 2012, 07:48 am
You guys may be interested in this

http://www.nitrouscrackers.co.uk/products.html
(Clearweb site)

They sell crackers for Nitrous so you dont have to carry around those massive whipped cream dispensers at raves. Honestly they are excellent, only a couple of inches long, it surprised me how small they are.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: DrGonzoII on June 07, 2012, 10:38 am
I remember the time I made one out of a Piece of Shit paintball gun. Nothing funnier than huffing hippie crack from the barrel of a gun.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: jpinkman on June 07, 2012, 09:33 pm
You guys may be interested in this

http://www.nitrouscrackers.co.uk/products.html
(Clearweb site)

They sell crackers for Nitrous so you dont have to carry around those massive whipped cream dispensers at raves. Honestly they are excellent, only a couple of inches long, it surprised me how small they are.

Yeah but lugging around a massive tank is preferable to the tiny amounts dispensed from whippet cartridges. I have a gold plated cracker from back in the day, but find it pretty much useless. They barely fill a third of a balloon.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: TheStealthyRacoon on June 08, 2012, 09:53 am
Yeah but lugging around a massive tank is preferable to the tiny amounts dispensed from whippet cartridges. I have a gold plated cracker from back in the day, but find it pretty much useless. They barely fill a third of a balloon.
True, if there is a group of you that plan to be doing a few Nitrous balloons an hour all night then a tank is your only option. Personally I love my lil' cracker. I find 2 whippets do me fine and I only do it every so often.
Title: Re: wheres the nitrous?
Post by: slybootz on June 08, 2012, 03:00 pm
Yeah but lugging around a massive tank is preferable to the tiny amounts dispensed from whippet cartridges. I have a gold plated cracker from back in the day, but find it pretty much useless. They barely fill a third of a balloon.
True, if there is a group of you that plan to be doing a few Nitrous balloons an hour all night then a tank is your only option. Personally I love my lil' cracker. I find 2 whippets do me fine and I only do it every so often.
I always say that all I need is two whippets when I'm on LSD, but two turns to twenty, turns to 4 boxes over the course of a weekend at a music festival.  I end up frantically looking through all the empties scattered around my tent/campsite hoping to find a full one for one last fix of gas. Fucking hippie crack man.......