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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: maybejustonce on February 09, 2013, 11:12 pm

Title: BTH vs #4 vs Morphine
Post by: maybejustonce on February 09, 2013, 11:12 pm
What are the differences between the 3? Can someone explain in detail??
Title: Re: BTH vs #4 vs Morphine
Post by: Fallkniven on February 10, 2013, 04:07 am
Copy/Pasted this from a few different wikipedia pages


Morphine is the most abundant opiate found in opium, the dried latex extracted by shallowly slicing the unripe seedpods of the Papaver somniferum poppy. Morphine was the first active principle purified from a plant source and is one of at least 50 alkaloids of several different types present in opium, poppy straw concentrate, and other poppy derivatives. Morphine is generally 8 to 14 percent of the dry weight of opium, although specially bred cultivars reach 26 percent or produce little morphine at all (under 1 percent, perhaps down to 0.04 percent).


Black tar heroin is a type of illicit opiate narcotic drug formed from the incomplete acetylation of morphine. Black tar can contain a variable percentage of heroin, but despite the name, what makes Black Tar specific as a type is not actually its heroin (diacetylmorphine) content, but rather the greater mixture of lesser acetylated morphine derivatives—predominantly 6-MAM (6-monoacetylmorphine) and 3-MAM (3-monoacetylmorphine). This is caused by the use of the antiquated Wright-Beckett process (c. 1874), which produces a relatively crude and unrefined opiate product but does not require the complex lab equipment, high-purity acetylating chemicals or lengthy reflux steps necessary to produce pure heroin, making it attractive to clandestine drug producers.


Diacetylmorphine (Heroin) is produced from acetylation of morphine derived from natural opium sources. Numerous mechanical and chemical means are used to purify the final product. The final products have a different appearance depending on purity and have different names. No.4 is the purest form — white powder (salt) to be easily dissolved and injected. No.3 is "brown sugar" for smoking (base). No.1 and No.2 are unprocessed raw heroin (salt or base).



Check this picture out, shows the chemical routes from opium to heroin hcl -                https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Synthesis_of_Heroin_from_Opium.svg
Title: Re: BTH vs #4 vs Morphine
Post by: grdr on February 10, 2013, 01:37 pm
tar is best for smoking..
Title: Re: BTH vs #4 vs Morphine
Post by: maybejustonce on February 10, 2013, 08:01 pm
Why is there much more demand for heroin than morphine? isn't morphine more refined?
Title: Re: BTH vs #4 vs Morphine
Post by: grdr on February 10, 2013, 08:58 pm
morphine -> diacetylmorphine (heroin) ~2.5x more potent by weight compared to morphine. High is the same as morphine just heroin goes faster through blood brain barrier and gives smoother and cleaner rush while morphine gives painful (pleasently) pins and needles.
Title: Re: BTH vs #4 vs Morphine
Post by: maybejustonce on February 11, 2013, 12:38 am
thanks alot for the help guys.
Title: Re: BTH vs #4 vs Morphine
Post by: jerryskid on February 11, 2013, 06:04 pm
imo it is not the same. when i was an active opiate addict morphine was the last alternative, yes it has the opiate buzz but i did not like all the effects it had on me, for me was nowhere near h. i have heard the same from several people. i am so fortunate it has been several years for me, i will never go down that road again
Title: Re: BTH vs #4 vs Morphine
Post by: grdr on February 11, 2013, 09:10 pm
imo it is not the same. when i was an active opiate addict morphine was the last alternative, yes it has the opiate buzz but i did not like all the effects it had on me, for me was nowhere near h. i have heard the same from several people. i am so fortunate it has been several years for me, i will never go down that road again

heroin is cut also might be "pure" from 70% and other parts are whats left from the production. basically no one here could say they tried heroin because heroin is diamorphine and unless you tried pure product for example like UK vials or Switerzland or other country maintenence programs.