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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: CryptoTree on June 26, 2013, 04:51 am
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My parents an I actually have a pretty good relationship, and while they're fairly conservative in a lot of ways, they're also kind of hippies in other ways. I was in my last year of college and I told my parents that I had been experimenting with psychadelics, and my reasoning why.
The first question my mom asked wasn't "Oooh deeary me, why have you fucked up your poor widdle brain?"
No her first question was "Uhh... what was it like?"
See when my mom had me, they doped her up a shit ton with pain killers, and gave her some ergot derived medicine to dilate her cervix. If you don't know, ergot is related to LSD (in fact LSD was discovered when they were trying to find an alternative to ergot, since it's also made toxic). She had some crazy ass trip, and thought she was a 14 year old girl in Care Bear land, legit. I probably wasn't the ergot, probably just all the pain killers, since they don't give you all that much ergot, but since then she'd been a little curious. Also I guess you could say I was born out of a psychonautic trip.
I laid all the risks to her, the reason why I trip, and stuff like that. I finally asked her a couple of weeks ago if she'd be interested in trying it out, she gave me a cautious yes.
So I'm curious on people's feedback how I should handle it. I think I should start her out really low. Like made 1/32nd. Barely active dose, just to demonstrate to her that it's not the boogie woogie that people make it out to be. Also she's kind of older (like mid 60s) and has had some health problems in the past, so I wouldn't want to overload her. She doesn't even drink by the way. She used to some in the past, but she's like some kind of elder Straight Edger.
Thoughts on other things to look out for etc? When I trip, I usually paint, or listen to music. What should I have her do? Go out into nature seems like a good idea, but being in public would probably add too much anxiety to it for her. The only thing she is really worried about is getting arrested, which isn't really an issue, but she thinks it is. Any suggestions?
Anyone who is of an older age, please chime in. Some people of her generation might be able to give greater insight on this perhaps.
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My parents an I actually have a pretty good relationship, and while they're fairly conservative in a lot of ways, they're also kind of hippies in other ways. I was in my last year of college and I told my parents that I had been experimenting with psychadelics, and my reasoning why.
The first question my mom asked wasn't "Oooh deeary me, why have you fucked up your poor widdle brain?"
No her first question was "Uhh... what was it like?"
See when my mom had me, they doped her up a shit ton with pain killers, and gave her some ergot derived medicine to dilate her cervix. If you don't know, ergot is related to LSD (in fact LSD was discovered when they were trying to find an alternative to ergot, since it's also made toxic). She had some crazy ass trip, and thought she was a 14 year old girl in Care Bear land, legit. I probably wasn't the ergot, probably just all the pain killers, since they don't give you all that much ergot, but since then she'd been a little curious.
I laid all the risks to her, the reason why I trip, and stuff like that. I finally asked her a couple of weeks ago if she'd be interested in trying it out, she gave me a cautious yes.
So I'm curious on people's feedback how I should handle it. I think I should start her out really low. Like made 1/32nd. Barely active dose, just to demonstrate to her that it's not the boogie woogie that people make it out to be. Also she's kind of older (like mid 60s) and has had some health problems in the past, so I wouldn't want to overload her. She doesn't even drink by the way. She used to some in the past, but she's like some kind of elder Straight Edger.
Thoughts on other things to look out for etc? When I trip, I usually paint, or listen to music. What should I have her do? Go out into nature seems like a good idea, but being in public would probably add too much anxiety to it for her. The only thing she is really worried about is getting arrested, which isn't really an issue, but she thinks it is. Any suggestions?
Anyone who is of an older age, please chime in. Some people of her generation might be able to give greater insight on this perhaps.
Grind up the shrooms into powder. Cap them up into either .1G weighted capsules.
Have her eat 3-4 off the bat, wait 20 minutes, eat another, then wait for the on-set. And gradually eat 1-2 more at a time until she's where she wants to be.
I love Shrooms for that reason... it's one of the few psychedics you can REALLY control on some level for dosing yourself. :)
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I actually bought them pre-capped (courtesy of raugara), so that will be good. It's about .5 per capsule, so I was thinking about giving her 2. I had a newbie friend trip yesterday with me on 4 and he had a craaaazy time. I remember my first time on shrooms was probably my strongest trip ever. I figure start with 2 and maybe go further if she really wants it.
But doesn't cross tolerance get in the way? Whenever I've dosed, I've dosed all at once, and I've found that when I took more after the first dose, the returns were greatly diminished. Thoughts?
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I actually bought them pre-capped (courtesy of raugara), so that will be good. It's about .5 per capsule, so I was thinking about giving her 2. I had a newbie friend trip yesterday with me on 4 and he had a craaaazy time. I remember my first time on shrooms was probably my strongest trip ever. I figure start with 2 and maybe go further if she really wants it.
But doesn't cross tolerance get in the way? Whenever I've dosed, I've dosed all at once, and I've found that when I took more after the first dose, the returns were greatly diminished. Thoughts?
Okay, so they're .5 in each... She's a newbie, right? Have her eat 1 capsule, wait 20 minutes, eat the 2nd capsule....
Once the on-set starts (45 min? 1 hour?), see how she feels. If she thinks she can handle 'more', she should take another 2 capsules at the start of the launch.
Cross-tolerance really isn't an issue until you've peaked.
**2 Grams is enough for a newbie to experience a full-on body high, some OEVs, loss of perception, time, disorientation, confusion, lots of CEVs, etc..
1 Gram is enough for a "spiritually enlightening experience" for a newb too. So, judge based on what she ultimately wants to experience. :P
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very curious about this. its like waking from the matrix. we don't do it to old ppl. the shock could be too big. have some xanies at hand!
shaking and collapsing a 40 + years old reality can be dangerous in my opinion.
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Nice my friend. I only tried weed with my father at Deep Purple concert and he loved it. ( he actually loved the concert but I am sure smoking played a huge role). I am not experienced on shrooms so I can't suggest what dose to take. But I would totally agree giving her such a small dose, maybe enough to start tripping a bit
shaking and collapsing a 40 + years old reality can be dangerous in my opinion.
As for this, I totally disagree. Better late than ever I could say. Plus I believe experiencing drug effect when somebody is older can lead to a much better understanding of life, emotions etc.
Go on my friend and keep us posted.
All the best,
Adamiz
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My mother an I have taken 2C-I and Galindoi shrooms together before. She's 47, but used to be a big acid and MDMA user in her day. She recently decided that she'd like to trip a little more, so I gave her a gram of 2C-I about a year ago and she's been giving it to her friends and my aunt and a few others and everyone's loving it.
Her and I and my girlfreind took a small amount of shrooms recently and went to the local pool, that was fun.
I'd say go ahead, whats the worst that can happen?
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Make sure you take care of her tums! Nausea can make everything go to shit.
So jealous, I wish my mom was that cool >:[
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My mother an I have taken 2C-I and Galindoi shrooms together before. She's 47, but used to be a big acid and MDMA user in her day. She recently decided that she'd like to trip a little more, so I gave her a gram of 2C-I about a year ago and she's been giving it to her friends and my aunt and a few others and everyone's loving it.
Her and I and my girlfreind took a small amount of shrooms recently and went to the local pool, that was fun.
I'd say go ahead, whats the worst that can happen?
Haha I could never imagine going to a local pool in that frame of mind. I have trouble keeping it cool high at the local pool. Gives me an idea for my next trip though... Go to a pool that's a few miles away, haha.
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ive tripped with a gf;s mom and then ended up selling to her long after i broke up with said girl.
when it comes to shrooms ask yourself cap and stem or just cap? seeing as shrooms are shrooms ea grow is different and no 2 shrooms will ever be the same due to nature. This goes past strain!
i suggest for her to eat 1.5g cap and then wait 2 hours. some people are strange and it can creep, 1st time i took shrooms i took 2g cap of what i grew and it took me a hour for it to hit.
it also comes to did she eat? my advice is empty stomach as with 1.5g the normal person wont feel sick, the normal dosage for cap+stem is 3.5g but when it comes to cap that's different by 10x min.
the reality is each person is different, my brother can eat 7g n be fine enough to drive but i can only take 3g max an i still swerve the unicorns
psycs depend on the person so always keep that in mind! force booze, coke, molly, ket or H down a throat but never a psyc!!!
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I see your shrooms :), but raise you, LSD ::)
watching my dad trip, priceless.. for other things there's BTC.
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I actually bought them pre-capped (courtesy of raugara), so that will be good. It's about .5 per capsule, so I was thinking about giving her 2. I had a newbie friend trip yesterday with me on 4 and he had a craaaazy time. I remember my first time on shrooms was probably my strongest trip ever. I figure start with 2 and maybe go further if she really wants it.
But doesn't cross tolerance get in the way? Whenever I've dosed, I've dosed all at once, and I've found that when I took more after the first dose, the returns were greatly diminished. Thoughts?
Okay, so they're .5 in each... She's a newbie, right? Have her eat 1 capsule, wait 20 minutes, eat the 2nd capsule....
Once the on-set starts (45 min? 1 hour?), see how she feels. If she thinks she can handle 'more', she should take another 2 capsules at the start of the launch.
Cross-tolerance really isn't an issue until you've peaked.
**2 Grams is enough for a newbie to experience a full-on body high, some OEVs, loss of perception, time, disorientation, confusion, lots of CEVs, etc..
1 Gram is enough for a "spiritually enlightening experience" for a newb too. So, judge based on what she ultimately wants to experience. :P
Sounds good. The way I look at it, she can can always take more, but can't take less. Thanks for the info on cross tolerance too. Useful info for myself too!
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very curious about this. its like waking from the matrix. we don't do it to old ppl. the shock could be too big. have some xanies at hand!
shaking and collapsing a 40 + years old reality can be dangerous in my opinion.
It certainly will be an interesting experience to see the effect on an older person. Even though she's very conservative in a lot of ways, she's also very open minded. She traveled the world, along with my dad before I was born and spent a lot of time in other cultures. Even so, she doesn't even really drink so it will be interesting to see how that works out for her.
Nice my friend. I only tried weed with my father at Deep Purple concert and he loved it. ( he actually loved the concert but I am sure smoking played a huge role). I am not experienced on shrooms so I can't suggest what dose to take. But I would totally agree giving her such a small dose, maybe enough to start tripping a bit
As for this, I totally disagree. Better late than ever I could say. Plus I believe experiencing drug effect when somebody is older can lead to a much better understanding of life, emotions etc.
Go on my friend and keep us posted.
All the best,
Adamiz
That sounds really rad, hahaha. I'd like to get my dad to try it too but he's even more adverse to the idea of taking any kind of mind altering subject. Like I said, my mom doesn't really drink, but I should say my dad has NEVER drank, ever. (which is kind of mind boggling) I grew up in a dry county is part of it, but also my dad's a bit of an introvert.
He's also a bit of a "space cadet" and I'll have sober conversations with him that are very much like having a conversation with a high person, so I kind of wonder what he'd be like tripping. You know Lord of the Rings? He talks kind of like Treebeard. Reaaaallly slow and methodical. My mother an I have taken 2C-I and Galindoi shrooms together before. She's 47, but used to be a big acid and MDMA user in her day. She recently decided that she'd like to trip a little more, so I gave her a gram of 2C-I about a year ago and she's been giving it to her friends and my aunt and a few others and everyone's loving it.
Her and I and my girlfreind took a small amount of shrooms recently and went to the local pool, that was fun.
I'd say go ahead, whats the worst that can happen?
Woooah. That's a pretty crazy family. Also the local pool would be great. One of the things on my bucket list is go to a Waterpark while tripping. That seems like it would be super fun.
Basically doing anything while tripping would be super fun, hahaha
Make sure you take care of her tums! Nausea can make everything go to shit.
So jealous, I wish my mom was that cool >:[
Good point. I plan on doing it in the morning before she eats anything. I think I also have some anti nausea stuff on hand too.
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I suppose age will not make much of a difference really. The brain chemistry of elderly people is not much different from that of younger adults. The exception is when there is disease like dementia involved.
But if there is not, things like shrooms or lsd may hit you as hard as they do you parents.
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I would recommend having her not eat for 6 hours and then take 1.5 grams of shrooms for an optimal newb trip. Anytime one of my friends trips for the first time this is what i have them do.
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big upps. waiting for the update. show her the forums and show her our support. you can do it lady. We love you. Open your mind. Drift off and feel the vibe. We love you. and we will always be there with you. all is one. one is all.
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I've read a couple of posts in this forum that making tea from shrooms helps with the nausea. Is that true? I haven't yet used shrooms but have some galindoi powder and was thinking about making some tea and just having one sip at a time. Is there any logic in that? I'll probably just use LSD tonight but was thinking about starting off with a very conservative dose of shrooms to test how my system does with it.