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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: tomorrowman on July 06, 2012, 12:41 am

Title: tor on android
Post by: tomorrowman on July 06, 2012, 12:41 am
Can you use the tor browser on an android phone or an iphone?   
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: Froggy on July 06, 2012, 01:03 am
Yes, on Android. Download Orbot and Orweb v2.
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: tomorrowman on July 06, 2012, 01:05 am
Yes, on Android. Download Orbot and Orweb v2.

cool, i was just checking those 2 apps out. gonna get them tomorrow hopefully they work well.
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: stinkybreeze on July 06, 2012, 02:37 am
Yes, on Android. Download Orbot and Orweb v2.
   
^^^^ I use this everyday.    To look, not to purchase.    PGP is at home.      I have the Road address in a note- I copy.   Open Orbot, get bootstrapped 100%.    Back out, open Orweb-wait till it shows you that you are connected just like on PC or whateve, paste the Road addy in search area, press Enter. Wait for it , wait for it.......   Comes to SR login. Do yo thing man-

I hope I wrote this clear !



Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: tomorrowman on July 06, 2012, 03:23 am
Yes, on Android. Download Orbot and Orweb v2.
   
^^^^ I use this everyday.    To look, not to purchase.    PGP is at home.      I have the Road address in a note- I copy.   Open Orbot, get bootstrapped 100%.    Back out, open Orweb-wait till it shows you that you are connected just like on PC or whateve, paste the Road addy in search area, press Enter. Wait for it , wait for it.......   Comes to SR login. Do yo thing man-

I hope I wrote this clear !

hmm, do i have to turn the power on first? ;P
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: stinkybreeze on July 06, 2012, 04:50 am

    LOL !!
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: DeadRa7 on July 07, 2012, 11:46 pm
I've been using Tor on my Droid since day 1-actually riding down the street right now as I type this! :) I would note that when I do not have full 4G signal, the page does a type of 404 error...

Seriously puts a new meaning to "calling the dopeman" haha, I felt like a boss when I ordered 15 g's of Molly from my phone on here...the technology has gotten amazing!
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: 59Fifty on July 07, 2012, 11:54 pm
I can never get orbit to work properly on my android.. :(
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: tomorrowman on July 08, 2012, 12:58 am
I can never get orbit to work properly on my android.. :(

dammit thats not encouraging  to hear.
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: stinkybreeze on July 08, 2012, 05:42 pm
I can never get orbit to work properly on my android.. :(

It is slow. BUT...at times it will not hookup--just back out and go back into Orweb and try again (until it says connected to Tor) . Sometimes its takes me a few tries to connect. When it does it is locked in.
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: Vladimir on July 08, 2012, 05:48 pm
Can you use the tor browser on an android phone or an iphone?

there is an iPhone app for that ;) search for "Onion Browser" in the AppStore or Installous.
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: systemhost on July 08, 2012, 06:16 pm
I have tor working just fine on my phone however when I get to the SR login page, the image verification doesn't show up so I'm not sure how to log in... any ideas anyone?
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: Hungry ghost on July 08, 2012, 08:41 pm
I have onion on my iPhone. You can also use
 GPG if your phone is jail broke. You need mobile terminal as its command line only. I
wrote a brief tutorial on it:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=27442.msg299005#msg299005

     However many people expressed security concerns about using Tor on cellphones. Not sure what difference this would be from using a 3G dongle? I'm not disputing, as I don't know enough but I would like more information on what the extra risks might be. I always switch GPS off. Are the risks to do with the connection through cellphone network ie some kind of risk of narrowing down location.
Or are the risks more to do with potential  seizure of phone and evidence left on it? I always wipe the GPG files ie key rings and .conf files between uses. The GPG software remains on phone but with no keys until I need them.
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: oscarzululondon on July 08, 2012, 09:31 pm
there is an iPhone app for that ;) search for "Onion Browser" in the AppStore or Installous.

Using Tor & Onion Browser: A) from Installous & B) on an iPhone...

Fail on so many levels....
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: stinkybreeze on July 09, 2012, 04:14 am
I have tor working just fine on my phone however when I get to the SR login page, the image verification doesn't show up so I'm not sure how to log in... any ideas anyone?

Yes, when you open Orweb and get to the SR login page---on the top right middle icon--to the right of the "search" magnifying glass---click open and put a check by "Enable JavaScript". This will allow the image verification to be seen.   At least that's what I had to do to get it to show.
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: MasterS on July 09, 2012, 04:40 am
Yes javascript is required. A note on copying the browser link, why not just memorize it? I think it's great that my android can log in faster than my computer that is a proxy whore. I've only gone on SR through my phone through an account made just for my phone. Probably security paranoia but it's what I do and it's only to browse the listings and sometimes catch up on forum glib.
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: Vladimir on July 09, 2012, 07:04 am
there is an iPhone app for that ;) search for "Onion Browser" in the AppStore or Installous.

Using Tor & Onion Browser: A) from Installous & B) on an iPhone...

Fail on so many levels....

it's not for ordering, of course, but you can always show what SR has to offer to a friend, while having a beer in the city for example :)
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: Hungry ghost on July 09, 2012, 08:57 am
Again, can anyone give me more information on what the security risks of using an iPhone to access Tor are? Particularly interested in why downloading the browser from Installous would be risky?


Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: systemhost on July 15, 2012, 05:12 pm
Thanks guys enabling JS worked perfectly, I can't believe I didn't think of it first, I've just never user orweb before. As for the safety of TOR on android or iphone, I say its just as safe if not safer to connect via mobile phone. Just take the standard precautions to disable geolocation and only use a secure and locked down browser to navigate SR. Remember all in all TOR is quite secure, its what gets sent over TOR such as your messages as well as your browsers' messages that can compromise your identity. I personally think its pretty sweet that we now have the ability to use TOR on our smartphones now, I swear the power of anonymity is constantly growing and the possibilities that will arise from this will return our freedoms as they were originally intended.
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on July 15, 2012, 06:31 pm
answered my own question haha :
"Transparent Proxying: You must root your device in order for Orbot to work transparently for all web and DNS traffic. If you root your device, whether it is 1.x or 2.x based, Orbot will automatically, transparently proxy all web traffic on port 80 and 443 and all DNS requests. This includes the built-in Browser, Gmail, YouTube, Maps and any other application that uses standard web traffic."


TWM
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 15, 2012, 06:42 pm
Again, can anyone give me more information on what the security risks of using an iPhone to access Tor are? Particularly interested in why downloading the browser from Installous would be risky?

Those claims seem to be unfounded. I used to use it if anything its safer.
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: OuterLimits on July 15, 2012, 11:13 pm
I don't actually think JavaScript is required, I think that is actually a security risk and could expose your real IP address if you visited a malicious web page. I think all you have to do to be able to login is change the browser identifier setting to Firefox in OrWeb.
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: p0w3r2th3p30ple on September 13, 2012, 03:15 am
Hi all this my first post on the SR forum, hope im doing it right  ::)
just wana say theres sum bloody smart ppl out ther n im very excited to be part of this project! but i suck ass at using computers etc and smoke way to much dakka
I need help, hope ive done everythin rite so far?
First off im using an android device + wifi. Turned off my gps etc on my phone, downloaded orbot and orweb off the android market.
Got them up n running sweet, made an SR account etc.
Ive Been reading the SR forum for days (never done so much reading in my life. lol.) I understand how to transfer n use bitcoins etc
But encrypting/ decrypting pgp/gpg etc is doing my head in.. i know the info i needs out ther sumwer but be damned if i can find it!
I read someones making one or sumthin but is ther a simple android step bystep quide/tutorial in the one spot for us not so smart n00bies with no memory  ::)
Like, what secure apps to use n how to use them (ie. pgp/gpg), things u should do to ur android device etc..
sorry to waste anyones time as im sure its been asked a million times, any help would be muchly appreciated though.
Best of luck with everything SRers  :-X





Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: BigEasy on September 13, 2012, 02:45 pm
Good links on tor on android:

https://guardianproject.info/apps/orbot/
https://www.torproject.org/docs/android.html.en

Unfortunately I haven't heard good things about people getting tor running on iPhone lately.
Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: p0w3r2th3p30ple on September 13, 2012, 08:49 pm
Thanx BigEasy,
Ive read a bit on iphone/android devices in the forums. Ppl say stay away cause there a traking device. Whats the verdict? Should i get rid of it n use a laptop or keep trying to ride down the SR on android?
Any1?  ::)

Title: Re: tor on android
Post by: BigEasy on September 24, 2012, 04:50 am
p0w3r2th3p30ple - all depends on how much security you really need or how paranoid you are.

Are you just buying small amounts of personal use drugs? Some people wouldn't care as much then. Phone's are usually less secure then some personal computers because of out of date security & software (just one reason). Phone's are becoming more & more of a target for hackers these days.