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Discussion => Philosophy, Economics and Justice => Topic started by: SealTeam6 on June 01, 2013, 07:26 pm

Title: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 01, 2013, 07:26 pm
"The mighty God is a living man!"

This is a Bob Marley line and it got me thinking.  What if Mr. Marley is right?  What if God is right here on Earth living anonymously?
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: jackofspades on June 01, 2013, 08:17 pm
Interesting idea from an interesting man.
DPR?

anyway, i dont think so, IF there is a god probably not a man, or anonymous, but theres a chance. If god was a man then theyd lock him up in prison or insane asylum for ever saying anything like that haha.
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 01, 2013, 10:00 pm
Interesting idea from an interesting man.
DPR?

anyway, i dont think so, IF there is a god probably not a man, or anonymous, but theres a chance. If god was a man then theyd lock him up in prison or insane asylum for ever saying anything like that haha.

Fucking perfect.  You are right he would be locked up, or people would attempt to lock him up.  Think about it this way.  What if he was a man but didn't know he was God, and then circumstances awake him to the fact that he's God.  The drama in this theory is that he is awakened but has to relearn everything in order to once again become God, so he is essentially stuck being a man trying to make his way back to being God.  What if he didn't know at first how to handle it, and went around saying he was God.  Chances are he would be admitted asap, lol.  Being God tho, he would eventually learn to keep his mouth shut, hence remain anonymous!

DPR?  lol.  He could be God, this site is a miracle!
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: abitpeckish on June 02, 2013, 12:27 am
That might explain the fucked up state of everything...
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 02, 2013, 12:45 am
That might explain the fucked up state of everything...


lol +1
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: xpat on June 02, 2013, 12:49 am
Not God is a man, but God is man himself and we are all God. Walt Whitman believed something along those lines, pretty interesting take
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: abitpeckish on June 02, 2013, 01:19 am
Not God is a man, but God is man himself and we are all God. Walt Whitman believed something along those lines, pretty interesting take

not just the mind of man, but the matter as well. not only the mind and matter of man, but of all existence. your pet goldfish is also "god".
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 02, 2013, 01:40 pm
Hey sr6-
I think becasue Bob Marley was a Rastafarian- we was referring to Hailie Selassie who was the emperor of Ethiopia and was considered to be a living god by the rastas  -
but OP raises a good question and i cant help but imagine if god were an actual person if they- a professed to being god would either end up in an asylum for the insane, or perhaps start a cult and make a million dollars- if they chose not to walk around saying - 'oh hey btw im like god you know' then they would probably sink into a deep depression due to the state of current affairs, but then what would they do about it? and what type of god are we talking about? omnipotent- or just superhuman
this raises a lot of questions

My personal belief is that God is everything, absolutely everything!  There is no escaping God.  I also believe the world is perfect, even where there is imperfection.  I term it perfect imperfections.  You may be right about Hailie Selassie, but he is no longer alive on Earth, but is sure to be reborn as God incarnate in another man.  I mean if God manifested as a man once, I'm pretty sure he can do it again.  To answer your question we are talking about a God who is everything at once.  He would be perfectly imperfect!
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: Dutch81 on June 03, 2013, 09:14 am
Not God is a man, but God is man himself and we are all God. Walt Whitman believed something along those lines, pretty interesting take
Not sure about that.
But I'm pretty positive that God aint a woman.
Because Moses would not last 40 day's nights on that mountain. He would come down screaming after just a couple of day's.
Also if God was a Woman, he would come back with more than ten commandments.  ;)
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 03, 2013, 01:48 pm
Not God is a man, but God is man himself and we are all God. Walt Whitman believed something along those lines, pretty interesting take
Not sure about that.
But I'm pretty positive that God aint a woman.
Because Moses would not last 40 day's nights on that mountain. He would come down screaming after just a couple of day's.
Also if God was a Woman, he would come back with more than ten commandments.  ;)

lol makes sense
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: goblin on June 03, 2013, 11:37 pm
Jesus would be considered a terrorist today.
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: Tyrion Lannister on June 03, 2013, 11:51 pm
there is no fucking god, even if there is one, there is nothing he can do, so why bother?
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: abitpeckish on June 03, 2013, 11:54 pm
Jesus would be considered a terrorist today.

Ehhhh, not really. The Jesus of the Bible is absolutely a revolutionary, but not in any kind of violent way. Not that he ever even existed in the first place...
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 04, 2013, 01:22 am
there is no fucking god, even if there is one, there is nothing he can do, so why bother?

That statement makes no sense!
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 04, 2013, 01:25 am
Jesus would be considered a terrorist today.

Ehhhh, not really. The Jesus of the Bible is absolutely a revolutionary, but not in any kind of violent way. Not that he ever even existed in the first place...

Amen to this, Jesus today "would" be painted as a terrorist, but his true self would be known to those close to him!
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: moonflower on June 04, 2013, 02:14 am
to be more specific, god is EVERY man... and woman! ;)
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 04, 2013, 02:22 am
to be more specific, god is EVERY man... and woman! ;)

To be more specific... woman already has man imbued in her name!
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 04, 2013, 02:23 am
Don't know if imbued is the right word, just went with it, felt good, you get the picture!
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: hailsatan123123 on June 04, 2013, 10:41 am
I think this sentence could be rather explained this is my opinion and it goes something like this.

What i describe as 'God' is probably someone who can create life and environment , posses immortality , and is beyond the concept of 'time' as we know it. but hes wisdom is not infinite rather extremely intelligent.

I think this could be achieved by the human race if we survive through  the phase of earth. eventually in the rate that science is developing humans will be able to actually leave the planet and won't be depended on resources here on earth. that will give us the opportunity to make the 'leap' to form new advanced technologies and physics , Humans will be gaining immortality and eventually we will be able to create our on life forms in  laboratory conditions ! perhaps plant them on planets that have full conditions for life and than we will be considered for them as some kind of 'Gods'.
In my opinion their is no such thing as magic but advanced technology which humans will eventually have (If we won't nuke ourself), in other words as humans are not gods and even far far from that but we do have the potential and the capabilities ! that also led me to think that the circle of life is maybe some thing like a race creates race but we leave this for another topic  ::)


Also i would like to add that drugs really helped me to start thinking out side 'the box' , And i feel like the community on SR is very inspiring ! keep making threads like this  8)
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 11, 2013, 11:18 am
I think this sentence could be rather explained this is my opinion and it goes something like this.

What i describe as 'God' is probably someone who can create life and environment , posses immortality , and is beyond the concept of 'time' as we know it. but hes wisdom is not infinite rather extremely intelligent.

I think this could be achieved by the human race if we survive through  the phase of earth. eventually in the rate that science is developing humans will be able to actually leave the planet and won't be depended on resources here on earth. that will give us the opportunity to make the 'leap' to form new advanced technologies and physics , Humans will be gaining immortality and eventually we will be able to create our on life forms in  laboratory conditions ! perhaps plant them on planets that have full conditions for life and than we will be considered for them as some kind of 'Gods'.
In my opinion their is no such thing as magic but advanced technology which humans will eventually have (If we won't nuke ourself), in other words as humans are not gods and even far far from that but we do have the potential and the capabilities ! that also led me to think that the circle of life is maybe some thing like a race creates race but we leave this for another topic  ::)


Also i would like to add that drugs really helped me to start thinking out side 'the box' , And i feel like the community on SR is very inspiring ! keep making threads like this  8)

God made man in his own image, so seems to me that works two ways.  Man can tap into that energy IMO that God has and be able to do God like things.  We already have the biological organs to create life of our own.  Do u think its necessary to have to leave this beautiful planet and go somewhere else to create life in a lab.?  We have it all at our finger tips right here on Earth!
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 11, 2013, 11:20 am
Not God is a man, but God is man himself and we are all God. Walt Whitman believed something along those lines, pretty interesting take

not just the mind of man, but the matter as well. not only the mind and matter of man, but of all existence. your pet goldfish is also "god".

Amen!
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 11, 2013, 11:22 am
"The mighty God is a living man!"

This is a Bob Marley line and it got me thinking.  What if Mr. Marley is right?  What if God is right here on Earth living anonymously?


Nah, he is outside of this Universe and tripping on DMT. We are all in his hyperspace and we are not real.

He is also trying to know himself :)

Interesting take!
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: abitpeckish on June 11, 2013, 12:19 pm
He is also trying to know himself :)

Then he isn't "God", is he?
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 11, 2013, 01:22 pm
He is also trying to know himself :)

Then he isn't "God", is he?

Why?  You are assuming God is this omnipotent figure only because that is what you have been force fed your whole life.  Think different!
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: abitpeckish on June 11, 2013, 03:45 pm
He is also trying to know himself :)

Then he isn't "God", is he?

Why?  You are assuming God is this omnipotent figure only because that is what you have been force fed your whole life.  Think different!

Then why call it "God", when doing so is going to create a huge misunderstanding between what YOU mean when you say it and what others UNDERSTAND when you talk to them about it? To do so is to be willfully misunderstood.
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SOUTHPAW on June 12, 2013, 06:57 am
Not God is a man, but God is man himself and we are all God. Walt Whitman believed something along those lines, pretty interesting take

not just the mind of man, but the matter as well. not only the mind and matter of man, but of all existence. your pet goldfish is also "god".

Reminds me of a quote from the 'Adjustment Bureau' when the beloved Senator asks Harry if he is the Chairman(God) and Harry tells him laughingly that 'No I'm not, but you have met him or her. We all have in one form or another... It's like a test, so you never know when you meet...'  Obviously these are not the exact words, but pretty close, at least to how I remember them to be. 

So, I took this as God could be in front of you as a man, woman, dog, cat, horse, and yep even a gold fish. You will just never know when that Ultimate evaluation will be happening. So keep your God face in full affect all the time.   

Yea, definitely easier said then done but we can try...
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: BlackIris on June 12, 2013, 08:41 am
"The mighty God is a living man!"

This is a Bob Marley line and it got me thinking.  What if Mr. Marley is right?  What if God is right here on Earth living anonymously?

This is the concept of Eastern religions, and the concept of Crowley "*there* is no God but man". Many have interpreted the sentence erratically, however, because the emphasis is in the "THERE", meaning that in the ego there is only man, but inside of it, when the ego is no more, *there* is God.

In even less words: God is inside yourself, not outside of you. Your soul is what men calls "God". BTW even Christian saints as St. Loyola or Theresa D'Avila reached the same exact conclusions by their mystic states. They said: "don't look outside to search God, that's the wrong place; God is inside you".

Even Christ said exactly the same. He called himself the "Son of Man", and he explicitly said "How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work." it is just that as always the church interpreted things as they wanted to. As an aside note the Christ is a gnostic figure, it has nothing to do with YHWH (and so the external concept of a God seated in a throne outside). The Gnostics believed YHWH to be an Archont, an enslaver of humanity.
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 12, 2013, 05:53 pm
He is also trying to know himself :)

Then he isn't "God", is he?

Why?  You are assuming God is this omnipotent figure only because that is what you have been force fed your whole life.  Think different!

Then why call it "God", when doing so is going to create a huge misunderstanding between what YOU mean when you say it and what others UNDERSTAND when you talk to them about it? To do so is to be willfully misunderstood.

Because it is God.  You don't change the name because people don't understand it, you would change peoples understanding of the name!

You hit it right on the head with understanding also.  The whole world is a big misunderstanding.  This is why I am not only a man of God, but a man of science. 

I don't strive to understand, I strive to "overstand"!
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 12, 2013, 05:56 pm
Not God is a man, but God is man himself and we are all God. Walt Whitman believed something along those lines, pretty interesting take

not just the mind of man, but the matter as well. not only the mind and matter of man, but of all existence. your pet goldfish is also "god".

Reminds me of a quote from the 'Adjustment Bureau' when the beloved Senator asks Harry if he is the Chairman(God) and Harry tells him laughingly that 'No I'm not, but you have met him or her. We all have in one form or another... It's like a test, so you never know when you meet...'  Obviously these are not the exact words, but pretty close, at least to how I remember them to be. 

So, I took this as God could be in front of you as a man, woman, dog, cat, horse, and yep even a gold fish. You will just never know when that Ultimate evaluation will be happening. So keep your God face in full affect all the time.   

Yea, definitely easier said then done but we can try...


Beautiful southpaw, absolutely beautiful.  This is why you should give love to every single thing, because you never know if its God staring you right in the face!
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 12, 2013, 05:59 pm
"The mighty God is a living man!"

This is a Bob Marley line and it got me thinking.  What if Mr. Marley is right?  What if God is right here on Earth living anonymously?

This is the concept of Eastern religions, and the concept of Crowley "*there* is no God but man". Many have interpreted the sentence erratically, however, because the emphasis is in the "THERE", meaning that in the ego there is only man, but inside of it, when the ego is no more, *there* is God.

In even less words: God is inside yourself, not outside of you. Your soul is what men calls "God". BTW even Christian saints as St. Loyola or Theresa D'Avila reached the same exact conclusions by their mystic states. They said: "don't look outside to search God, that's the wrong place; God is inside you".

Even Christ said exactly the same. He called himself the "Son of Man", and he explicitly said "How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work." it is just that as always the church interpreted things as they wanted to. As an aside note the Christ is a gnostic figure, it has nothing to do with YHWH (and so the external concept of a God seated in a throne outside). The Gnostics believed YHWH to be an Archont, an enslaver of humanity.

Goosebumps Blakiris, that's what you gave me, so much truth there!
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: abitpeckish on June 12, 2013, 06:30 pm
Quote from: SealTeam6
Because it is God.  You don't change the name because people don't understand it, you would change peoples understanding of the name!

1. That's not going to be possible
2. You have just agreed that you care less about being understood than you do about using a certain word. This places you squarely in the territory of the nonsensical.

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You hit it right on the head with understanding also.  The whole world is a big misunderstanding.  This is why I am not only a man of God, but a man of science.

I don't strive to understand, I strive to "overstand"!

There are definitely words here, as well as parseable sentences. Yet the quoted material is actually content-free. You have said nothing.
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 12, 2013, 06:41 pm
Quote from: SealTeam6
Because it is God.  You don't change the name because people don't understand it, you would change peoples understanding of the name!

1. That's not going to be possible
2. You have just agreed that you care less about being understood than you do about using a certain word. This places you squarely in the territory of the nonsensical.

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You hit it right on the head with understanding also.  The whole world is a big misunderstanding.  This is why I am not only a man of God, but a man of science.

I don't strive to understand, I strive to "overstand"!

There are definitely words here, as well as parseable sentences. Yet the quoted material is actually content-free. You have said nothing.

All things are possible!

Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: Maria Larsson on June 12, 2013, 08:35 pm
I think i've met the dude in a restaurant. Seemed like a nice guy but probably doesn't have all answers like many and maybe he thinks. Probably just a guy with lots of power (and great control issues ofcourse) and lots of guilt like most politicians. Didn't bother talking to him and he didn't bother talk to me. I suspect he was a wifebeater. But the food in that place was heavenly :) If you read this God, please buy me a lunch there some time as I cant really afford places like that as things are now.
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: piratesam on June 12, 2013, 09:13 pm
But he does not exist...

And if he does he is a fucking asshole for making life suck so bad.
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: SealTeam6 on June 12, 2013, 10:10 pm
But he does not exist...

And if he does he is a fucking asshole for making life suck so bad.

Why does your life suck?
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: Maria Larsson on June 13, 2013, 07:41 am
But he does not exist...

And if he does he is a fucking asshole for making life suck so bad.

If he does he is probably something like the man in the restaurant I described.

How the fuck would the world look if there were such thing as a all-knowng allmighty superbeeing?

SealTeam6 why does your life suck so much you cant stay away from spamming the forums? wanna send me your bitcoins and go outside to play?
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: thedopestjunkie on June 13, 2013, 04:20 pm
Not that I believe in God, but if I did, I would say God is most certainly female.
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: piratesam on June 13, 2013, 07:25 pm
Not that I believe in God, but if I did, I would say God is most certainly female.
And then you would be stoned to death for such beliefs. lol
Title: Re: God is a Man!
Post by: thedopestjunkie on June 14, 2013, 02:55 pm
lol maybe 2 or 3 hundred years ago I would be, today I just catch some flack from some religious zealots from time to time.