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Title: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: skillion on December 08, 2012, 06:12 pm
Polar Shift? Solar Storms? Nothing?

What's it going to be folks?
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: Snuj Team on December 08, 2012, 06:42 pm
Polar Shift? Solar Storms? Nothing?

What's it going to be folks?

Honestly? Who cares.  Seriously, if the world is going to come to an end, it's going to come to an end.  Nothing anybody can do is going to stop whatever force you believe in, or don't from destroying life, if it does happen.  Just sit back and enjoy the ride.

My personal wish: (IF the world did come to an end) Zombie Apocolypse.

Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: HighAllDay96 on December 08, 2012, 07:11 pm
Despite weather it happens or not, I just still try to live each day to the fullest. I swear if you have that mind set nothing can stop you.
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: Joey Terrifying on December 08, 2012, 08:07 pm
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html

nothing is going to happen.  we could sit here and wax poetic about a shift in human consciousness...and i would agree...but NOTHING out of the realm of normal possibility is going to happen on december 21, 2012.  people will be born, people will die, winds will blow, tides will turn, and the world will keep on spinning.

i want you all to join me in making a pledge that after this, we will NEVER AGAIN put forth any predictions about the "end of the world."  i get it, we all want the world to end so we don't have to fix any of our problems and also we would all get to die together, and not alone.  but guess what:  its probably not gonna happen for a lonnnnnnng time, and it takes all the personal responsibility off the individual to contribute to our progress as a species.  so lets pull ourselves up by the bootstraps, and commit to making this world better instead of just hoping it is spontaneously destroyed.  this is our responsibility.
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: wow1234 on December 08, 2012, 08:25 pm
dont know if its true but i saw on twitter the world will go black for 3days starting the 21st o.O
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: fuckoffehbuddy on December 08, 2012, 08:35 pm
nothing is going to happen.  we could sit here and wax poetic about a shift in human consciousness...and i would agree...but NOTHING out of the realm of normal possibility is going to happen on december 21, 2012.  people will be born, people will die, winds will blow, tides will turn, and the world will keep on spinning.
yeah no shit and tbh i'm pretty fucking tired of hearing all these bullshit theories
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: skillion on December 08, 2012, 08:45 pm
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html

nothing is going to happen.  we could sit here and wax poetic about a shift in human consciousness...and i would agree...but NOTHING out of the realm of normal possibility is going to happen on december 21, 2012.  people will be born, people will die, winds will blow, tides will turn, and the world will keep on spinning.

i want you all to join me in making a pledge that after this, we will NEVER AGAIN put forth any predictions about the "end of the world."  i get it, we all want the world to end so we don't have to fix any of our problems and also we would all get to die together, and not alone.  but guess what:  its probably not gonna happen for a lonnnnnnng time, and it takes all the personal responsibility off the individual to contribute to our progress as a species.  so lets pull ourselves up by the bootstraps, and commit to making this world better instead of just hoping it is spontaneously destroyed.  this is our responsibility.

I really am having a hard time digesting what NASA says about 2012.  Isn't this just the information that "They" want us to believe?  Why would they go through the trouble of answering all those "hoax" questions anyway?  Why wouldn't they just ignore it and carry on as usual? 

The goal of the illuminati, free masons, bilderberg group (whatever you want to call them) is to decrease the worlds population to 500,000,000.

How do we explain the murals in the Denver International Airport (most of which have been covered up since they were first painted, although the pictures are still available on the internet)

How do we explain what is under the Denver International Airport? Google it....

What are they preparing for?

For those that are interested, it's been scientifically proven that the Sahara desert was once under water, and this can be proven by water wearing on the Sphinx.... And if you believe that the north pole and the south pole were to actually flip, this would put the Sahara desert back under water.

The pyramids have already been proven to be at least 12,000 years old.  Who the fuck built them, and where did they go?

Not to mention the galactic alignment that is due on December 21st, 2012 (that Nasa is debunking, stating this happens every year, AND IT DOESN'T because of the wobble in the earth!)

I think everyone should watch this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaDOkMEK4uk

Thanks for the comments, please, I am not fear mongering, just the opposite, these are things that I have found in my research over the last 3 years (and much more than this, this is just the tip of the iceburg), and I like open discussion on the topics, and if I am wrong, then so be it!  I am not banking on the world ending on December 21st, 2012, but something is not right.  I can feel it in my bones.

Welcoming the discussion!
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: skillion on December 08, 2012, 08:48 pm
nothing is going to happen.  we could sit here and wax poetic about a shift in human consciousness...and i would agree...but NOTHING out of the realm of normal possibility is going to happen on december 21, 2012.  people will be born, people will die, winds will blow, tides will turn, and the world will keep on spinning.
yeah no shit and tbh i'm pretty fucking tired of hearing all these bullshit theories

Then why in the fuck did you click on a title that said "December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?"?

Anyone hear of the Georgia Guidestones?
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: Ballzinator on December 08, 2012, 10:01 pm
I don't know what to make of all those Freemason theories. Are they true? Are they bullshit? Or something in between? I don't know. Am I too open-minded? Am I too closed-minded? I don't know. I've read about FEMA camps and holy shit, that's some scary stuff. Only time will tell I guess :-\
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: skillion on December 08, 2012, 10:14 pm
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Not to mention the galactic alignment that is due on December 21st, 2012 (that Nasa is debunking, stating this happens every year, AND IT DOESN'T because of the wobble in the earth!)

Wiki:
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Similarly, the Sun's December solstice position (in the northern hemisphere, the lowest point on its annual path; in the southern hemisphere, the highest) is currently in the constellation of Sagittarius, one of two constellations in which the zodiac intersects with the Milky Way.[69] Every year, on the December solstice, the Sun and the Milky Way, from the surface of the Earth, appear to come into alignment, and every year, precession causes a slight shift in the Sun's position in the Milky Way. Given that the Milky Way is between 10° and 20° wide, it takes between 700 and 1400 years for the Sun's December solstice position to precess through it.[70] It is currently about halfway through the Milky Way, crossing the galactic equator.[71] In 2012, the Sun's December solstice will fall on 21 December.

So what happens every year for 700-1400 years is alignment with the milky way itself, what happens this year is alignment with the equator of it.



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For those that are interested, it's been scientifically proven that the Sahara desert was once under water, and this can be proven by water wearing on the Sphinx.... And if you believe that the north pole and the south pole were to actually flip, this would put the Sahara desert back under water.
How the hell would that work? A polar switch wouldn't fling a shit ton of water over the desert. The Sahara desert wouldn't go underwater unless it sank closer to the core of the earth and the water had a path to run into it.

Used the word "Flip" instead of "Shift" my mistake, in which case the north pole and south poles snow would melt, VERY QUICKLY, causing the water to raise dramatically.

Wiki is not addressing the 1 degree wobble in the earth which changes it.  The sun will raise though the center of the milkyway this year for the first time in 26,000 years

I would suggest watching the "Spirit Science" posted earlier.
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: skillion on December 08, 2012, 10:17 pm
I don't know what to make of all those Freemason theories. Are they true? Are they bullshit? Or something in between? I don't know. Am I too open-minded? Am I too closed-minded? I don't know. I've read about FEMA camps and holy shit, that's some scary stuff. Only time will tell I guess :-\

Not really sure they are theories now.  Research freemasons and 33 degree freemasons.  Most freemasons have no idea what's up, it's the upper degree masons that know all (apparently)  Definately shit going on there.  Fema camps are true, no bullshit there.
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: Joey Terrifying on December 08, 2012, 10:50 pm
hahaha...i was kinda setting bait posting a link to NASA so i could address another point:

there is no illuminati.  no group in control.  this is just another ironically convenient explanation of the world for weak minded people.  the truth, which is far more frightening, is that this "society" is hardly at all removed from the jungle.  its a massive chaotic orgy with no one at the helm.  if, on occasion, some group does gain some level of control over others it only lasts for a blink of history's eye and then they are gone with someone else to take their place or for the orgy of chaos to commence.  there is no "they" only "us."  if you wanna talk astronomy but you don't trust NASA, you're basically shit outta luck, and kind of an idiot.  they aren't hiding anything from us; i don't even think they could in, this, the age of information.  in the 21st century, everything "they" know, you can know.  there are no secrets any more, save for some technical specs on experimental aircraft and weapons.

i'm sorry to speak in such definitive terms, i usually don't like to do that, but this debate warrants it.  I've known wayyyy too many people over the course of my life, usually from the psychedelic community, who think the freemasons are puppeteering every facet of the modern world blah blah blah, and i have to say that from empirical observation, this eventually makes people give up on life or go insane, just the same way as if you believed in the bible or scientology or something like that.  its a fantasy, and eventually you either realize that subconsciously and give up, or you go fucking crazy trying to convince yourself and everyone around you that what you believe is true.

i strongly recommend you stop trying to get to the bottom of this "mystery" and just enjoy life.  oh, and vote.  because these are real people in a fucked up chaotic system; not reptiles-in-human-skin playing out a meticulously planned farce.  its time to come back to the rest of us here in consensual reality.
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: skillion on December 08, 2012, 11:56 pm
Used the word "Flip" instead of "Shift" my mistake, in which case the north pole and south poles snow would melt, VERY QUICKLY, causing the water to raise dramatically.
Why? What about a polar shift would do that?
Edit: Looked it up. What would cause the poles to become ends of the equator? (Still reading)

Samples taken from the north pole indicate magnetic alignment of the earth at given times.  These samples show something called the coriolis effect, I assume your going to research it, as you seem very able to do so.

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Wiki is not addressing the 1 degree wobble in the earth which changes it.  The sun will raise though the center of the milkyway this year for the first time in 26,000 years
The sun was perfectly in line with the center in 1998, it's still over the center line until 2016.

My research confilcts with what your saying about the sun rising perfectly in line with the center in 1998 and until 2016, in fact it's impossible.  Check the myan tempels and how they are designed to catch the sun rising in one certain spot above the temples.

The magnetic field of the earth has been decreasing for a long time now, and it's getting a lot worse.

The earth used to complete 1 rotation every 4 hours, now it completes a rotation in 23hrs 56mins and 4 seconds, and it's going to diminish further.  Who knows what will happen then?
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: skillion on December 09, 2012, 12:18 am
Let me be more specific on this:

At the center of the milky way galaxy, there is a black hole (astronomers have only found this in the last 8 years) but the Myans called it the "Dark Rift".

I wonder how they Myans knew this, if we only figured it out 8 years ago?

Either way, it's the sun rising through the center of this "Dark Rift" that occurs every 26,000 years


And this is what I am trying to say about the Coriolis Effect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlAL_iIHmKI
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: skillion on December 09, 2012, 01:00 am
1. The sun takes 36 years to precess across the equator-line of the milky way, from 1980-2016. The center point of the sun was in line with the equator-line in 1998.

2. The Dark Rift is not a black hole it's non-luminous particulate matter.

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In astronomy, the Great Rift (sometimes called the Dark Side, Dark Rift, or, less commonly, Dark River) is a series of overlapping, non-luminous, molecular dust clouds that are located between the Solar System and the Sagittarius Arm of the Milky Way Galaxy at a distance of about 100 parsecs or about 300 light years (2×1015 miles or 3×1015 kilometers) from Earth. The clouds are estimated to contain about 1 million solar masses of plasma and dust.

1. Please research the dark rift, the myans, and maybe you can see from my perspective. (I am not arguing)

2. I disagree, it's been identified as a black hole recently.  If you want to link to your research I will be happy to indulge.

I have been waiting for you to message, as I love being grounded with my thoughts on this!

Cheers
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: skillion on December 09, 2012, 01:01 am
1. The sun takes 36 years to precess across the equator-line of the milky way, from 1980-2016. The center point of the sun was in line with the equator-line in 1998.

2. The Dark Rift is not a black hole it's non-luminous particulate matter.

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In astronomy, the Great Rift (sometimes called the Dark Side, Dark Rift, or, less commonly, Dark River) is a series of overlapping, non-luminous, molecular dust clouds that are located between the Solar System and the Sagittarius Arm of the Milky Way Galaxy at a distance of about 100 parsecs or about 300 light years (2×1015 miles or 3×1015 kilometers) from Earth. The clouds are estimated to contain about 1 million solar masses of plasma and dust.

1. Please research the dark rift, the myans, and maybe you can see from my perspective. (I am not arguing)

2. I disagree, it's been identified as a black hole recently.  If you want to link to your research I will be happy to indulge.

I have been waiting for you to post, as I love being grounded with my thoughts on this!

Cheers

Please watch the spirit science!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaDOkMEK4uk
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: skillion on December 09, 2012, 01:14 am
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Daniel Pinchbeck maintains that in 2012, the Dark Rift alignment will occur for the first time in 25,800 years, at dawn on 21 December. This assertion is quite wrong, as we show in this video. Actually, the Sun will "be aligned" with the Dark Rift at dawn in Maya lands in many years from about 1970 to 2110. In some of those years, that "Alignment" occurs closer to the moment of the Solstice than it does in 2012.
This of course makes sense, since the precession of the sun is 1 degree per year. Really, using the Dark Rift instead of the equator line doesn't change much. It's just a different reference that still amounts to years of (mostly imprecise) alignment.

Sagittarius A, the region containing the supermassive black hole, was discovered in 1974. Even if it was confirmed more recently, the point is moot because the Mayans weren't referring to it, they were referring to clouds of non-luminous dust.

Can you link your research so I can have a peek?
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: skillion on December 09, 2012, 01:18 am
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Daniel Pinchbeck maintains that in 2012, the Dark Rift alignment will occur for the first time in 25,800 years, at dawn on 21 December. This assertion is quite wrong, as we show in this video. Actually, the Sun will "be aligned" with the Dark Rift at dawn in Maya lands in many years from about 1970 to 2110. In some of those years, that "Alignment" occurs closer to the moment of the Solstice than it does in 2012.
This of course makes sense, since the precession of the sun is 1 degree per 72 years. Really, using the Dark Rift instead of the equator line doesn't change much. It's just a different reference that still amounts to years of (mostly imprecise) alignment.

Sagittarius A, the region containing the supermassive black hole, was discovered in 1974. Even if it was confirmed more recently, the point is moot because the Mayans weren't referring to it, they were referring to clouds of non-luminous dust.

I would also say at this point, that the Myans received their information from a ET race that provided them with it, not from what they observed naturally.  There is no way they built the temples on their own, as it would require technology that we have only recently achieved.  This is true not only for the Myans...
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: Ballzinator on December 09, 2012, 01:47 am
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Daniel Pinchbeck maintains that in 2012, the Dark Rift alignment will occur for the first time in 25,800 years, at dawn on 21 December. This assertion is quite wrong, as we show in this video. Actually, the Sun will "be aligned" with the Dark Rift at dawn in Maya lands in many years from about 1970 to 2110. In some of those years, that "Alignment" occurs closer to the moment of the Solstice than it does in 2012.
This of course makes sense, since the precession of the sun is 1 degree per 72 years. Really, using the Dark Rift instead of the equator line doesn't change much. It's just a different reference that still amounts to years of (mostly imprecise) alignment.

Sagittarius A, the region containing the supermassive black hole, was discovered in 1974. Even if it was confirmed more recently, the point is moot because the Mayans weren't referring to it, they were referring to clouds of non-luminous dust.

I would also say at this point, that the Myans received their information from a ET race that provided them with it, not from what they observed naturally.  There is no way they built the temples on their own, as it would require technology that we have only recently achieved.  This is true not only for the Myans...
Not really on topic but what the hell:
http://www.starchildproject.com/
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on December 09, 2012, 01:55 am
nothing is going to happen.  we could sit here and wax poetic about a shift in human consciousness...and i would agree...but NOTHING out of the realm of normal possibility is going to happen on december 21, 2012.  people will be born, people will die, winds will blow, tides will turn, and the world will keep on spinning.
yeah no shit and tbh i'm pretty fucking tired of hearing all these bullshit theories

Then why in the fuck did you click on a title that said "December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?"?

Anyone hear of the Georgia Guidestones?

So what does some self righteous Masonic granite slabs have to do with an apocalyptic Mayan calendar, other than they were both made from stone?
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: skillion on December 09, 2012, 01:57 am
nothing is going to happen.  we could sit here and wax poetic about a shift in human consciousness...and i would agree...but NOTHING out of the realm of normal possibility is going to happen on december 21, 2012.  people will be born, people will die, winds will blow, tides will turn, and the world will keep on spinning.
yeah no shit and tbh i'm pretty fucking tired of hearing all these bullshit theories

Then why in the fuck did you click on a title that said "December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?"?

Anyone hear of the Georgia Guidestones?

So what does some self righteous Masonic granite slabs have to do with an apocalyptic Mayan calendar, other than they were both made from stone?

Why they confirm that the powers at be want the world population to be decreased to 500,000,000, in a sense, just a piece of the pie I guess.
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: psychedelia on December 09, 2012, 02:01 am
Let's wait until Dec. 21st and see who's right.

I bet 10 bitcoin that the world won't end on Dec. 21st.

If I'm right, you pay me 10 bitcoin.

If I'm wrong, I won't be here to pay you.
Title: Re: December 21st, 2012 - Are we all fucked?
Post by: skillion on December 09, 2012, 02:11 am
Let's wait until Dec. 21st and see who's right.

I bet 10 bitcoin that the world won't end on Dec. 21st.

If I'm right, you pay me 10 bitcoin.

If I'm wrong, I won't be here to pay you.

I never claimed the world would end, I merely asked a question to incite some conversation...