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Title: DirectConnect white Pumas
Post by: deansmithmd on May 24, 2012, 09:31 pm
This is a copy of a post that I made in the MDMA thread, but I thought it deserved it's own thread so here you go:

There is a new listing for domestic US MDMA pills: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/d0fb7a1730

I am a bit skeptical for several reasons. First of all, every other report of white Pumas from the west coast has pills that contain meth or some other adulterant: http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=search_reports&sent=1&name=puma&logo=&colour=&region=1&sub_region=all&percent_rating=0&pp=10&submit.x=52&submit.y=9&submit=Search+Reports

Second, the listing seems purposefully vague.

"These are 100% self-tested (my partner and I, and our associates ;) and for sure contain MORE than a generous supply of MDMA. "

Does this mean you ingested them? Did you have a lab test done? Marquis and Mecke reagents? Note that this doesn't preclude the presence of other substances. I have had pills that were MDMA with speed. They were fun for the first few hours, but at noon the next day when I was still awake from the speed, I was not amused.

"They will keep you going ALL night. "

I don't want to be going "ALL night" on good MDMA. I want 3-5 hours of nice peak and then I want to go to sleep.

From the pillreport that is quoted in the listing, "By the time 1 rolled around, we felt completely back to normal but when we got up to walk home, our pupils were still huge."

All of these things point to the potential of these pills being a mix of MDMA and amphetamines of some kind.

I am happy there's a new domestic pill source, but at the price this seems too good to be true. DirectConnect has five positive reviews, four for Suboxone and one for benzos, so he seems to be starting out on a good foot as a vendor. I'm not impugning his/her integrity as a vendor, just wondering exactly what's in these pills. If they're pure MDMA, I'll be the first in line to grab some. If they have a "bonus" inside, I'll pass.
Title: Re: DirectConnect white Pumas
Post by: KatEverdeen209 on May 24, 2012, 09:47 pm
I saw the price and that it was domestic and got excited.. then I searched around PR and realized these pills were known for exactly what you were talking about.
thats why I had mentioned it in his review thread...
They seem to be the exact pills with amph/meth going around.
though from his post I got that he was fairly new
maybe someone needs to let him know its expected to list adulterants along with the active chem. =/
Title: Re: DirectConnect white Pumas
Post by: deansmithmd on May 24, 2012, 09:53 pm
I did a search for DirectConnect but didn't get anything. Sorry I missed his review thread. If mods want to move this there, that's fine. If not, it's a question I'd like answered. I'll place an order tomorrow if they're pure, but it doesn't look like it.
Title: Re: DirectConnect white Pumas
Post by: AJAPAI on May 24, 2012, 10:53 pm
The pumas do have a little amp in them but there not bad for domestic pills speed based tabs arent bad sometimes especially at like a festival
Title: Re: DirectConnect white Pumas
Post by: deansmithmd on May 24, 2012, 11:30 pm
The pumas do have a little amp in them but there not bad for domestic pills speed based tabs arent bad sometimes especially at like a festival
I've enjoyed them myself at raves. I just think the vendor should tell everything that's in there, if he or she knows the ingredients.
Title: Re: DirectConnect white Pumas
Post by: AJAPAI on May 24, 2012, 11:45 pm
Agreed but he did post the pill reports saying there is amp in them. I have had the pumas before and they dont have that much amp in them if anyone has had the peach aliens or mazeratis back then theyre the same just about.
Title: Re: DirectConnect white Pumas
Post by: Nocturnalbeyond718 on May 25, 2012, 12:19 am
The problem w/ the Pumas is that there are several batches of them floating around. The first batch tested positive for MDMA + amp, which isn't bad at all for festivals (similar to the recent white GMC/gucci press) and many users reported positive results.

 However, subsequent batches have been tested as PURE meth bombs with little to NO MDMA in them. So, I suppose until people order and actually test these pumas, you won't really know what batch they're from.
Title: Re: DirectConnect white Pumas
Post by: AJAPAI on May 25, 2012, 12:29 am
The problem w/ the Pumas is that there are several batches of them floating around. The first batch tested positive for MDMA + amp, which isn't bad at all for festivals (similar to the recent white GMC/gucci press) and many users reported positive results.

 However, subsequent batches have been tested as PURE meth bombs with little to NO MDMA in them. So, I suppose until people order and actually test these pumas, you won't really know what batch they're from.

Good point but the ones without the speckles are the meth bombs idk someone should test them though.
Title: Re: DirectConnect white Pumas
Post by: deansmithmd on May 25, 2012, 04:05 pm
Agreed but he did post the pill reports saying there is amp in them. I have had the pumas before and they dont have that much amp in them if anyone has had the peach aliens or mazeratis back then theyre the same just about.
Actually the report he linked just says, "MDxx Medium". There is no mention of amp except in some of the comments.

The reports I posted are the plethora of other west coast reports about them being full of speed. Those are here: http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=search_reports&sent=1&name=puma&logo=&colour=&region=1&sub_region=all&percent_rating=0&pp=10&submit.x=52&submit.y=9&submit=Search+Reports

Again, I have no problem with the pills themselves. I have enjoyed a tweaky roll from time to time. The point I'm trying to make is I'd like to know before taking what's in them. I usually take 3-5 pills per trip, depending on their potency. I'm a big guy and I need a little more MDMA than most to really get off, not to mention that I've been taking E for almost twenty years. Point is, if I end up taking 5 meth bombs trying to peak on MDMA when I don't know there is meth in there, I'm in for a LOOOOOOOOOOONG and unpleasant next few days. Five medium dosed Es will give me a little brain fry the next day. 5 meth bombs and brain fry is the least of my worries because I'm still awake at 7pm the next night!

Just tell us what's in them and there's no problem. I might even buy a few meth bombs for parties. If they're full of speed, though, I want to know before I go popping them two at a time after midnight on a Saturday.
Title: Re: DirectConnect white Pumas
Post by: Nocturnalbeyond718 on May 26, 2012, 06:42 am
Agreed but he did post the pill reports saying there is amp in them. I have had the pumas before and they dont have that much amp in them if anyone has had the peach aliens or mazeratis back then theyre the same just about.
Actually the report he linked just says, "MDxx Medium". There is no mention of amp except in some of the comments.

The reports I posted are the plethora of other west coast reports about them being full of speed. Those are here: http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=search_reports&sent=1&name=puma&logo=&colour=&region=1&sub_region=all&percent_rating=0&pp=10&submit.x=52&submit.y=9&submit=Search+Reports

Again, I have no problem with the pills themselves. I have enjoyed a tweaky roll from time to time. The point I'm trying to make is I'd like to know before taking what's in them. I usually take 3-5 pills per trip, depending on their potency. I'm a big guy and I need a little more MDMA than most to really get off, not to mention that I've been taking E for almost twenty years. Point is, if I end up taking 5 meth bombs trying to peak on MDMA when I don't know there is meth in there, I'm in for a LOOOOOOOOOOONG and unpleasant next few days. Five medium dosed Es will give me a little brain fry the next day. 5 meth bombs and brain fry is the least of my worries because I'm still awake at 7pm the next night!

Just tell us what's in them and there's no problem. I might even buy a few meth bombs for parties. If they're full of speed, though, I want to know before I go popping them two at a time after midnight on a Saturday.

But it's like I said, there are SEVERAL batches of the Pumas. The first being the best - with actual MDMA in them, and at least more MDMA than meth/amp. But the later batches have been tested to have little to ZERO MDMA and completely full of meth/amp. The speckles - whether gold/silver are sometimes an indication if you look through the reviews on pillreports. However, from most of the people I know who have taken them (at least five) plus my own experience testing them, I would steer clear until someone posts a legitimate test result that proves MDxx is present.

Cheers guys. Safe rolling!
Title: Re: DirectConnect white Pumas
Post by: deansmithmd on May 26, 2012, 04:01 pm
But it's like I said, there are SEVERAL batches of the Pumas. The first being the best - with actual MDMA in them, and at least more MDMA than meth/amp. But the later batches have been tested to have little to ZERO MDMA and completely full of meth/amp. The speckles - whether gold/silver are sometimes an indication if you look through the reviews on pillreports. However, from most of the people I know who have taken them (at least five) plus my own experience testing them, I would steer clear until someone posts a legitimate test result that proves MDxx is present.

Cheers guys. Safe rolling!
Yup. These two listings from ecstasydata.org would seem to bear your theory out. The first white puma has a 4:! ratio of MDMA:meth. The second has a 2:1 ratio.

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2477

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2476

Looks like the pressers are running out of E but they have plenty of R to spare. Crank it up, boys!!!
Title: Re: DirectConnect white Pumas
Post by: KatEverdeen209 on May 27, 2012, 04:13 pm
I had a talk with this vendor and he seemed to have no intention on letting people know what's in them. Basically said, they're selling like hotcakes.. obviously people don't care, I'm sure they looked it up.. don't quote me on that but it was basically the gist of his argument =\

I tried to tell him, he would still sell them if he mentioned the contents and that my concern was for his business and safety/satisfaction of his customers. =]

So hopefully if anyone complains that the pills he got felt way to speedy he will change the post