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Title: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 24, 2012, 11:07 pm
Bro u said last week it would be sent hopefully friday or saturday....Then you said for sure today and u would update, well my time its pst 7:00 pm   why would u not answer Pm's? Thats not cool bro, we started out with great communication u can at least take the time to update the people you are working with..I just think someone should do what they say.. Hopefully you will see this and update me, past experiance with you was good and communication ,now i dunno whats up..
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: virtuoustrades on September 24, 2012, 11:13 pm
I'm just wondering... Has anyone actually got their samples? Because looking on the feedback it says FE for like 6 days, no "great product!" or anything... Raj said he shipped mine out saturday so in good faith I think he will pull through. I think he added too many new products at such low sample sizes too fast and can't keep up. I bet he's swamped just trying to get everything shipped out...
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: DrJewberg on September 24, 2012, 11:17 pm
Sadly to say I strongly doubt this is going to work out, lol.
Has anybody received much contact from him recently? The only message I got was telling me to finalize then I was ignored for the messages I sent. :P
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: mistervic on September 24, 2012, 11:32 pm
i talked to "raj" on saturday and he said hed have my sample out today... so if hes an honest fella then itll be sent out.. but the whole 5/5 and FE thing has freaked me out a little, but it seems like Anonaddict got something a few days ago. did u?
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: modest mouse on September 24, 2012, 11:37 pm
everyone needs to go update their feedback and change it from 5/5 to 1/5  or at least the comments saying youre still waiting on orders

then if they actually arrive, and db4d holds up his end of the agreement, so will you to leave a 5/5

something fucked is definitely going on and you need to warn people he is requiring 5/5 and no orders are arriving since his first few which is how scams work... send a couple samples, get some reviews, have good communication till people finalize and then you ignore em...

whether he is just behind, which i hope cause i dont want anyone to be scammed, or actually ripping people off - there needs to be something posted on SR and the listings should be taken down until he catches up and all the orders he has already be paid for actually show up
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: mistervic on September 24, 2012, 11:45 pm
everyone needs to go update their feedback and change it from 5/5 to 1/5  or at least the comments saying youre still waiting on orders

then if they actually arrive, and db4d holds up his end of the agreement, so will you to leave a 5/5

something fucked is definitely going on and you need to warn people he is requiring 5/5 and no orders are arriving since his first few which is how scams work... send a couple samples, get some reviews, have good communication till people finalize and then you ignore em...

whether he is just behind, which i hope cause i dont want anyone to be scammed, or actually ripping people off - there needs to be something posted on SR and the listings should be taken down until he catches up and all the orders he has already be paid for actually show up

WORD
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: virtuoustrades on September 24, 2012, 11:49 pm
I have already changed my feedback to 1/5, and I agree everyone should do the same until people actually start receiving their shit.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Sunnysideup27 on September 24, 2012, 11:55 pm
I received my first order with no problems, placed two more, one they finally refunded me today, and I just sent a note asking about the other, Raj said they were no longer selling the product I ordered.   I also F/E early which I will never do again...... lesson learned :(
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: DrJewberg on September 24, 2012, 11:59 pm
I contacted admins about checking his legitimacy; changing my feedback asap. ^^
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: lobster55 on September 25, 2012, 12:00 am
Will someone explain why 30...maybe 40 people would send their money first and leave comments on something they have never even seen much less tried? Do you think that this guy has the absolute BEST DEAL on the BEST, MOST PURE product that has ever been seen on the face of G-ds green earth?
  I don't get it. I really don't.    Also every one of those 5 ratings is a slap in the face to any traveler who is trying to honestly determine whether or not to use the Vendor. (except we all KNOW them for lies)
This vendor may be a nice guy for all I know, but in subverting the purpose of escrow and ratings, it shows a complete lack of respect for the Silk Road and those who believe in it. Nice guy or not why would you legitimately sell here if you have NO faith in the road or the people who travel it?
Thank You,
lobster
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: wolverine434 on September 25, 2012, 12:04 am
And this is why you don't FE for anybody... especially a new vendor.

I've even been fucked by established vendors by doing an FE.

I can only imagine how fucked I would have been had I bought from new vendors that demanded FE on every transaction.

Fuckin fishy, guys.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Tienamen on September 25, 2012, 12:05 am
I actually got a refund today as he couldn't fill my order of amphetamine sulfate.  I had already FE'ed too... he didn't need to refund me - hell, he could have done it and I couldn't have said a word about it...

I don't know what's up, but it seemed like a stand-up action to me... I must admit, as the days dragged on, I thought I was going to be stiffed... I was pleasantly surprised..

Sorry for the rest of you guys... He didn't allude to what his issues were in his message telling me he couldn't fill my order and that he had refunded me fully..

Still a little worried he might be LE and is collecting addresses and refunding $$$ to be able to come back on people.. the thought crossed my mind..
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: TheGhost1 on September 25, 2012, 12:26 am
Placed 2 different individual orders from deathb4dishonor for his advertised sample coke and #3 base heroin on 9/19. Received immediate message to verify order and his request to FE which I did. Sent pm to verify when and if item shipped which went unanswered for a few days. Here is message sent in which I finally received a reply to. Reply is indicated below.

   I still have not recieved a reply from you to verify correct product samples sent and if order has shipped. I have been reviewing some feedbk indicated on the forums in reference to your operation. There seems to be a number of individuals who are questioning your sincerity as a new vendor. Your listings sound good however you have a larger number of customers FE which you request is necessary and is a questionable and suspect practice for a new vendor. Three messages from myself w/ no reply? Very suspect. I know you are probably very busy but a reply to verify my previous message questions would satisfy me and others greatly. I hope you are not scamming in any way and I hear from you soon so I may post a positive review and experience which will bring you more business and satisfy some curious minds of your intentions here on SR. However, if I recieve no reply and no products As advertised, I will make sure your repuatation becomes a negative one. Hope to hear from you soon. Thank you.

      deathb4dishonor reply:
   Hello friend,

We cannot respond individually to messages at this point because we are shipping out orders. We understand that you think it is necessary to threaten our business to get our attention, but we assure you that you are mistaken in this regard.

Your $20 order was shipped in today's post

Thank you for your inquiry!

All the best,
Raj

   Reply message recieved 9/22. So n conclusion I have some reservations in reference to this vendors operation. Will update within forum if products recieved and quality.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: mistervic on September 25, 2012, 12:30 am
im not trying to trip out. im pretty sure raj is legit. only time will tell. he posted on his vendor page that "Haters say we fell off but how? We shipped out nine grams of cocaine today. " soooo lets see what happens! ill def keep you all updated.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: virtuoustrades on September 25, 2012, 12:39 am
The same! It's hard to jump to conclusions and I really dont know why he would start scamming people at this point anyway after just establishing himself as a stand-up vendor
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 25, 2012, 01:00 am
He did send me some H last saturday and i got it wensday, thats when it was up as #3 well after i got it i told him he is wrong is not #3, its just tanpowder H, im guessing #4 its not tar...Im on 20mg of methadone and should have stoped a few day \s befor i tried it, but what i did was snort a few bumps to see if it was "PURE" like said, and i got a little warm and it gave me a nod for bout 45min. He then told me cause i did some research and helped him as much as possible he offerd to send me a little something for my patience with him and research to help him, cause people would be pretty mad thinking and wanting #3 and it not be that, so i see it as i saved him some refuns or bad reviews. But he said he was gonna send saturday,then said he couldnt make it and it would be sent today and he would update me today well im on eastcoast and its 5 til 9:00 here so im waiting, and he had great communication last week, i mean he would respond fast, now u seem the ways im trying to get his attention, then he says he doesnt answer PM's anymore? is that normal? I just would like a update saying something....Anytype of response, im getting nervous bout it since someone mention le, but he seems to make a lot of pill sells.... Im guessing he's new to H....But i canonly go by our last transaction and he did come through so im gonna keeo faith, i started a few threads for this guy cause he started out amazing just in communication, i still will support him until he just doesnt respond or says fuck u im not sendn u shit now...Raj seems cool,but u dont leave ur buyers hanging not knowing whats up
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: greatgreatgrandpa on September 25, 2012, 01:08 am
I purchased a .05 of H and .1 of llello , he asked me to FE on both, I finalized on one, not the other, i figure he can carry half the cost of his business, he isn't doing favors or anything
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: herpderp25 on September 25, 2012, 01:31 am
He refunded me 11 something bitcoins because he could not fill my amphetamine sulfate order. HOWEVER, I would like to say that I ordered from him in the past, before he got big on here, and he DID indeed ship me the amphetamine sulfate capsules twice, once because it got lost and the second time just as a bonus. He is a legit vendor. I am not entirely sure what the whole new FE business is up to, so I won't comment on that, but I have received from him successfully in the past.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: willwham1 on September 25, 2012, 02:09 am
Why would ANYONE FE with this guy??? He actually ripped off all you all? WTF is happening on SR? You all ever read the crap about NOT FE ANYONE as then SR cannot HELP YOU!!?? So with that said....NEVER EVER FE!!! there is NO reason to do so if youre dealing with a real vendor peeps!! I hope ya'll get it soon or money back!
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Joeyjojojr on September 25, 2012, 02:15 am
I personally would never order from a person who didnt know the difference between #3 and #4 H. Let alone FE????

Plus he says 10mg is a strong dose on the 50mg sample order?

I highly doubt that as well.

I hope dude is legit, but enough flags have been raised to not trust this vendor.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 25, 2012, 02:51 am
He told me 10mg was great also, im not a H user but a opiate pill adddict, and i barely felt from 3 lines... it cold of been cause the 20mg methadone im on, butt he did send to me and im hoping he will keep his word and do again,and i hope he did it today like he said he would
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: technopium on September 25, 2012, 03:01 am
I have NOT received my sample order placed 7 days ago.  Did the FE and 5/5 as requested ONLY because the guy had good stats and it looked like other orders were being received.  Have to say that now I am worried because it seems as many/all other people have NOT received thier samples. 

I think a word from the vendor would be appropriate as to why the wait or what is going on?  Too many orders without shipment is leaving me with a sinking feeling and that is not how business should be done on SR.  It seems DB4D might have accepted HUNDREDS of these sample orders because whenever I go to the product ad (no matter what day or time of day), it always shows multiple orders placed with the last couple hours and everyone has FE, given a 5/5 and said that they are waiting for their shipment???

Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: THUMBSuP. on September 25, 2012, 03:18 am
i was going to order from him.
but, i figured .05 is nothing worth ordering/shipping.

so, i told him to contact me when he had a gram or more.[preferably an eighth.]
needless to say... glad i didn't order from him. :)

but you'd figure a scammer would tell me he had the gram.. or the eighth, just to get me to FE, ya' know?
but he didn't.
good ol' "Raj" told me he would get in touch with me..
still haven't heard from him/her.
probably for the better.


/thumbs
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: lobster55 on September 25, 2012, 03:47 am
I did think the 10mg "Strong Dose" was kind of funny. That means there would be 100 doses in a Gram. The Vender obviously knows nothing about heroin and is playing learn as you go. 100 dose to a gram...maybe it IS the strongest dope on earth! ::)
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: dddfffsss on September 25, 2012, 04:20 am
we all need to go change our feedback to reflect this, maybe all leave a link to this forum page and leave 1/5 to at least keep new possible "victims" from catching this cold. 
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: johnny5 on September 25, 2012, 04:29 am
It looks like he may have dishonored you all, so now he will face death...............
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Moon Fried on September 25, 2012, 04:29 am
Damn, was looking for a vendor that sold samples of H so that I could try it, and this shit happens. Good thing I haven't ordered from him yet. Gunna stick around to see if he turns out to be legit or just another scammer on the road.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: metta on September 25, 2012, 05:40 am
I placed one order with DB4D and I received it in a stealthy manner. The quality of the coke was not as advertised, so I rated it a 4/5. Raj contacted me last week and told me he wanted to send me a new sample, free of charge, and if I liked it would I consider raising my rating. I thought this was a generous gesture on his part, so I'm waiting for the new sample which should be here tomorrow. I'll report back on my thoughts ...
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: pillbuyer on September 25, 2012, 06:49 am
Seems like you either love or hate this guy.
He acts drastically different with the ppl :|

Weird.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Raj on September 25, 2012, 08:51 pm
Hello friends and loyal patrons:

I am a representative of the storefront deathb4dishonor, and I am writing in regards to the state of our order queue. We have shipped many of our late orders as of Saturday and today, for which feedback should begin to emerge by Wednesday. The response from our customers should vindicate our storefront by week's end. Yes, we are slightly backlogged due to order volume, but the degree of animosity in the messages we now receive is not warranted. We have stopped responding to  communications on a temporary basis, until our customer feedback has repudiated the false assumptions about our storefront.

If you are writing us hateful messages about your order, demanding to know if it has been shipped, you are going to have to be more patient. Yes, you will get your drugs. No, this is not a fast food restaurant. No, your order did not ship out the same day you placed it. Many of you are not even able to keep your word long enough to find out whether your order will arrive, and to those of you who have jumped the gun and changed your feedback from 5/5, we advise you to reconsider. How can anyone without honor in this life expect to have any home in the next? We stand by our guarantee - everyone who paid money will get their order or if it is lost in transit, be eligible for a choice of either a full refund or replacement order.

Thank you for witholding your judgement regarding our storefront until the verdict from our customer feedback is in!
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Raj on September 25, 2012, 09:03 pm
p.s. - We are discontinuing our requirement that customers finalize in advance, in order to help dispel some of the doubt surrounding our business.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: deathbe4dishonor on September 25, 2012, 09:04 pm
None of you will be getting your orders. i dont even mind posting that here. 99.9% of you dumb fuck customers dont even read the forums. in 7 days i have made 9,785$ on product i dont have.... suckers.. and it continues. Ill be back on another account as soon as this one gets banned. thanks for the cash
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on September 25, 2012, 09:12 pm
None of you will be getting your orders. i dont even mind posting that here. 99.9% of you dumb fuck customers dont even read the forums. in 7 days i have made 9,785$ on product i dont have.... suckers.. and it continues. Ill be back on another account as soon as this one gets banned. thanks for the cash

fake
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Tienamen on September 25, 2012, 09:18 pm
So it seems that anyone who ordered Amphetamine Sulphate was refunded as he couldn't fill the orders... People who ordered C & H seem to be in limbo as he probably was able to get it and has gotten a backlog... The pure volume he has gotten lately had to be a bit of a shock to his setup....

I say wait a day or two and then tear him apart guys... I feel lucky as I was refunded and don't have to worry... I just can't see my way around why he refunded me close to $200 after I had FE'ed... I had no real recourse at that point... Why would a scammer turn down free money?  I for one will be withholding judgement temporarily... I hope the rest of you do the same... For 48 hours at least...
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: wolverine434 on September 25, 2012, 09:51 pm
p.s. - We are discontinuing our requirement that customers finalize in advance, in order to help dispel some of the doubt surrounding our business.

Raj,

I'm glad to see that you guys are doing the right thing.

This was certainly a very honorable gesture.

- W
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Joeyjojojr on September 25, 2012, 09:58 pm
I'm willing to suspend disbelief until Thursday, and if I don't receive any product by then or see peoples' feedbacks start to change I'm goin fire 'n brimstone on a motherfucker.

Lol, what exactly do you plan in doing with fire and brimstone? I Hope he didnt scam you, but if he did and you FE'd, then there isnt really shit you can do about it unless you really do work for satan. Im sure you two could figure out a good way to get back at the scammers, lol. 
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: blster666 on September 25, 2012, 10:31 pm
Will someone explain why 30...maybe 40 people would send their money first and leave comments on something they have never even seen much less tried? Do you think that this guy has the absolute BEST DEAL on the BEST, MOST PURE product that has ever been seen on the face of G-ds green earth?
  I don't get it. I really don't.    Also every one of those 5 ratings is a slap in the face to any traveler who is trying to honestly determine whether or not to use the Vendor. (except we all KNOW them for lies)
This vendor may be a nice guy for all I know, but in subverting the purpose of escrow and ratings, it shows a complete lack of respect for the Silk Road and those who believe in it. Nice guy or not why would you legitimately sell here if you have NO faith in the road or the people who travel it?
Thank You,
lobster

Because those 30 or 40 users have no self-control. I blame them for the FE policy that's being enforced by vendors even though it is clearly against the SR policy. I honestly hope they get scammed so I don't have to deal with this chit. I'm on the same boat as you man, I myself can't figure how you can just hand over someone money before even receiving it. WTF is so hard for vendors to include tracking so this way it'll be difficult to get scammed because all they need to do is provide proof that it was excepted...and THEN make the payment. Follow this rule and I bet vendors wouldn't be shipping you fake coke and fake MDMA so they have no choice but to ship you what they advertize. SR really needs to step in and make FE bullshit an unethical practice. Like i said, (use tracking) and for buyers use common sense.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: antigrid on September 25, 2012, 11:18 pm
I actually got a refund today as he couldn't fill my order of amphetamine sulfate.  I had already FE'ed too... he didn't need to refund me - hell, he could have done it and I couldn't have said a word about it...

I don't know what's up, but it seemed like a stand-up action to me... I must admit, as the days dragged on, I thought I was going to be stiffed... I was pleasantly surprised..

Sorry for the rest of you guys... He didn't allude to what his issues were in his message telling me he couldn't fill my order and that he had refunded me fully..

Still a little worried he might be LE and is collecting addresses and refunding $$$ to be able to come back on people.. the thought crossed my mind..

shit I didn't even think about the LE possibility, anyone else have any thoughts about this? Has ANYONE received ANYTHING from him? If so that would negate the LE possibility but why would they want to gather addresses of people buying small amounts of H etc?
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on September 25, 2012, 11:24 pm
nvm
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on September 25, 2012, 11:35 pm
I got little minions doing my bidding like it was their own god damn business.

seriously tho... if it was LE I have a feeling someone would have knocked on my door already.

I'm leaning towards Raj not being a scam artist, given the amount of successful transactions he had in amps before he made the switch to H.

My guess is he landed a small-moderate amount of product possibly QTR oz or something and now he's so deluded with orders he had to acquire more and is extremely backlogged. But if that ends up being disputed, I doubt SR admin will treat bernie madoff m-fuckers lightly.

yeah dude. that's exactly what i've been telling people too.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Anjin on September 26, 2012, 12:32 am
Just ta toss in my 2 cents.  I made an order on 9/17.  It was posted as shipped within 15 minutes, and I got a message stating it was being market in transit ahead of shipping.  I then got another message on 9/19 stating it was mailed by USPS priority.  And as everyone else has stated, nothing has arrived, today is day 8 from the claimed shipping day from that first order.

The first time I ordered from this vendor, the product was in my hands inside 4 days.  This time, I am at twice that time, with nothing yet.  After this order, I noted the samples.  Since I had one good transaction, and the vendors reputation was high, I decided to gamble and toss my lot in with so many others, ordering a series of samples just to play... a taste to see just what might be there.  And again, almost immediate response to my order with a nice email that the order was being processed, all was well, would be shipped bright and early on Monday.

But, I refuse to FE.  I took the time to point out that regardless of thoughts, the reality is that every single FAQ related to the road says in big bold letters 'NEVER FE'.  Well, then the communications stopped.  So I wrote what I felt was a professional and clean email to support asking to simply allow me to cancel these orders.  After all, I had emails, plus the vendors own information pages stating the product was not shipped.  So please, just cancel the deal, no harm, no foul.  Which lead to an email from the vendor stating my order was shipped and extras were packaged.  And a nice note from SR Support stating the vendor claimed it was shipped at this time.   So I know where the SR Support stands, with the vendor right now.  And I know I have no choice but sit and wait.

I still refuse to FE, and I will never FE.  Remember, every single FAQ related to the road says NEVER NEVER NEVER FE.  But I fear I will be holding the bag for a 1/2 the cost of my outstanding orders.  Sad I know, but my spider sense is tingling.  I am not one to bitch and moan, give bad reviews without cause, always finalize as soon as that envelope hits my door.  But this whole activity has become one that makes me wary.

This is just honesty.  I am not badmouthing the vendor here, recall, I did in fact get an order once, it came fast, and it was good product.  I reviewed it well, and I responded with further orders.  But at this point I am not holding my breath.  Why would a vendor do such a deed?  Do I need to remind anyone of what happened back on 4/20 by a highly rated vendor and how much cash the buyer community lost in that deal?  Because essentially the vendor already has half your money, and only needs to send an empty package to get all of it.  The road might feel like its to the buyers advantage, but at the end of the day, its a gamble like any other deal of this kind. 

You never know what might happen.  And I for one will be the first to change my reviews, rewrite my own words, if the product arrives at the door.   So Raj, if your reading this, know that if I ever see that first order, or the other goodies promised.  I will write words of praise and report with glowing words the progress.  But know that I am not holding my breath, and that I am not alone.  A growing crowd is wondering just what is going on back behind your storefront.  To each of us, it might be just a little, but as others pointed out, to you its a windfall.  And that little for me at least, was all my play money for the month.  Thus you got all I had locked up in escrow, and for many others the same is true. 

I know that based on my discussion with SR Support, I have no options but sit and wait.  While my BTC is locked up in escrow...  Not only does this cost me, and all the others who are in the same place, but it also costs all the other vendors who lost the chance to gain that business.  And for me, I must follow the rules of burned once, shame on you.  Burned twice, shame on me.  And based on the information I have gotten from SR Support, and this vendor, if this fails... well, it might be a long time before I go shopping on the road again.  Because now I know for sure that the deck is stacked in the vendors favor, and at the end, the buyer is the one who takes the fall.

Good luck and best wishes too all.  Know that if you FE'ed already, you might as well not fret about it too much.  Just sigh and step back from the keys.  No point hammering out nasty emails and screaming and shouting, it wont be heard and only tears you down.  Live and learn and just let it go.  Next time remind yourself, no matter what the deal says, FE is not the way. 

Of course, as someone else pointed out, perhaps the FE requirement was just so this vendor could in fact use that income to put it back into product, and its just taking sometime to sort out.  Perhaps we will all be surprised tomorrow and happily hammering out our words of support and praise for this vendor.  Or perhaps we will just need to lick those wounds and understand that the road is an underground market, and like everyone, on occasion, the good comes with the bad.  Sometimes a deal turns south and we are all left holding an empty bag.

I sure do hope Raj whips that operation into shape, saves the reputation, and gets it all back in line.  Because I really did enjoy that first order so much, that it made me make another :)  What I did get... that first little baggie... was a magical experience.  Thus... I must, like all of us, simply wait and see.  These threads though will help us all if it does become something that SR Support must take on head on.  Just keep it clean, hold back that hostility, and remember that hate hurts you more then anyone.  Trust that if/when the envelopes arrive, you will be pleased with what they contain.  And if they don't... there is nothing you can do but steal years from your own life by going crazy about it.

Love and Peace
Anjin
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 26, 2012, 03:51 am
To the post above me im with you 100% and i agree, I also got my first sample in 4days.. And communication was awsome thing it all wen to a hault that is why i made these few threads for him and ppl who orderd from him can keep eachother updated..I personally do not have any money wraped up for this sample because the H he sent me was listed as #3 BROWN when he sent last week, when i got i knew thats not what i had and i kindly let him know, and also offerd up advice etc etc, well he replied and said he was gonna send me another sample free of charge, this was last thursday, and he hoped it would be friday or saturday, well then as iv said it was suppose to be shipped monday, Finally im glade to report he msg me in the past few hrs and said my sample had been shipped like he agrred to do but was unhappy with my tone on the forms, I dont see where i posted anything hash at all about the vendor, i just asked for update and gave my experiance truthfull iv said from day one he had good communication and came through for me so i was hoping for the best, well if he shiped the same as last time i should have by monday maybe saturday but im not looking for that... And to the buyer who has been waiting 8 days? Man bro thats not cool and it only takes mail from india 10days and we are all in the usa, but Raj says if ur order is lost u have a choice for something else.. It was good of raj to get on here after letting ppl sit and at least update in the form and through PM.. If he in fact does get me my 2nd parcel then i will be ordering from him, only thing is to all u who orderd the H let me know the stength and how u feel about it cause i just wanna know if it just wasnt a good batch he sent from or the damn 20mg of done fucked it...This time when i get the .125 sample or 50mg whatever it is im just gonna eaither snort the whole thing or inject. But lets do keep this thread going and update eachother.. And Raj if u read this i aplogize u felt i came off harsh but that was not my intent at all and everytime i have posted of u i have always praised u for what u did send and the communication, was just a little lost when all these ppls who ordrd had not herd or got anything from you.. Til the batch arrives i leave everybody with GOODLUCK AND LETS HOPE FOR THE BEST AND PREPARE FOR THE WORST, i was lucky to get my 1st one and as another said its been 8days and he paid for his and has not gotton it, this one he is sending is free cause he named his product wrong, soo im just hoping it turns out cool, thanks for the update RAJ
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Mr. Anderson on September 26, 2012, 04:32 am
Has ANYONE received ANYTHING from him?

Really quick:

I ordered a gram over the Labor Day Weekend. Got a message Labor Day saying if I FE by Monday night, it'll go out in Tues mail. No problem. I agreed to FE anyway, so I did. On Thur, I get a message it went out in Thursday's mail. That kinda pissed me off. Just don't say you are going to do something then don't do it. He should have said "ASAP", not Tuesday. Anyway, it arrived Sat in a stealthy package. Quality on par with what you get on SR. Just another vendor I tried and have marked off the list....(and for the record, my previous alias is on page 2 of the original coke vendor page. Stopped doing coke because of sub-par quality, but am encouraged by the newer vendors).
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Thwasa on September 26, 2012, 04:47 am
Hello everyone, I'm relatively new to the SR community, just thought I'd pop in and share my experience as well. I decided to start with a small purchase to test the waters so to speak, as this place is new to me. So i had purchased the sample of H, when it was around 3btc for the sample. This was about a week ago, 0  besides the initial FE message Raj sends out. I'll admit, i was naive to the site and didn't research thoroughly enough before jumping in, so i take responsibility if i did get scammed. A small price to pay to find who the legitimate vendors are. It's to bad though, he deterred me from any future business even if the product does arrive.
Anonymous,  may i ask when you initially purchased your first order? Ive read through your thread and must of forgotten it. I ordered when he still had the #3 as the listing.
I'll be patient with this, as i did get some awesome BTH from Nod instead.
best wishes and good luck,
Thwasa
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 26, 2012, 04:55 am
Yea i had my order sent last saturday, it got to me wensday priority mail...It was still listed as #3 the whole reason it was changed from #3 is because of me and my sample i recieved telling him he did not have the rite type of H down..Im just gonna say im on the east coast. And priority mail takes no more than 2 to 5 days in us to us...Even regular mail bro sent in a normal envelope would take max 2 to7 maybe 8 days, iv got stuff from india in 9 and 10days beforre, have u still not recieved your sample? Have u left him a msg? eVEN Though he doesnt owe me or i have no money im the type person i fill ppl should not say they will do something then do it, i kept communication with raj from last sayurday everyday almost til the day i got and then on saturday....
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 26, 2012, 06:17 am
@ Zoe above comment...Please do update when u get your sample from raj and let us know your testing findings, I m very curious myslf... Also Raj if your reading this and you did in fact send my order as agreed then of course i will praise u as i did before bro, u said to me you thought u had went out of your way to prove get my friendship well , my friend you did, but after i see all these other ppl saying they got nothing from u i got a little worrried and then u decided not to update like u said you would, i believe in being honest and sticking to your word, if you say u will update a certain day by all means please do it, I will thank you in this post ahead of time for the parcel hoping that it does in fact get to me like the last one, there r a couple guys saying its been over 8days, but as i have said im going by mine and your past experiance so i look forward to it by end of weekd or first of next week...Other buyers please update and keep this thread going for this vendor so we will know
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: virtuoustrades on September 26, 2012, 07:00 am
Here is my newly formulated opinion based on all the comments and Raj's rapidl expansion of his business:
I think Raj expanded far too quickly and has not been able to keep up with packaging, shipping, restocking, etc.
I think all orders that were placed last Mon-Fri were not actually shipped until Saturday, so tomorrow orders should be rolling in and reviews should come flying!
Let's all hope for the best,
If this is not the truth, (I can't believe I did the 1/2gram order on FE... Stupid me!) then I believe karma will work its course.
But as I stated before, with the volume of orders he is getting if he is legitimate he will be making SOOO much more money than scamming for a few days so I have no clue in the world why he would want to turn his good vendor record out the window at this point.
Let's have faith everyone!
God ol' Raj will do us right and we will all owe an apology!
But he will owe us all an apology for being so unprofessional with his business lately...
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: virtuoustrades on September 26, 2012, 07:06 am
But, deathb4dishoner, why the HELL couldn't you have just told us all you got backlogged and didn't get everything shipped till saturday?
That would have avoided all this mess!
And thanks for changing your FE policy, well established members with good stats should ALWAYS be able to not finalize until they receive their shipment.
Check all your customers stats and if they have crappy history and high auto-finalize rate, then require certain members to FE...
I think it is a good idea to get newbies to FE because they can be easy scammers... But then again legitimate noobs like we all were at one point are very easy targets to get scammed...
I have never been scammed or had a parcel lost so I really hope this isn't the first time... and if it is it will definitely be the last (NEVER FE AGAIN!)
;)
end of rant... sorry lol

vTrades
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Raj on September 26, 2012, 10:52 am
Hello friends,

We are just writing to provide a further update on the status of the deathb4dishonor shipments this week. Does this thread really say that we were marked as a scammer? Can someone fix that once the rest of our orders arrive?

As the feedback from our backlogged orders trickles in over the next few days, we would like to thank our old clientele and our new customers for their support and goodwill during this time of transition for our business. We greatly appreciate the patience that our new customers have demonstrated in finalizing early in order to be the first to sample our new product lines. We understand that this has not been easy for some in waiting out the delays caused by an explosive growth in our order volume – indeed for many, making an advance purchase from our storefront amounted to a leap of faith.

In order to express our appreciation for those customers who finalized early, and for our old customer base who were there when we started out selling amphetamine capsules, we are awarding a permanent discount for all these buyer accounts to purchase freely from our new product lines at their original prices. Having sent out enough of our products to prove the pure grade quality of our wares, we have nearly doubled our prices to reflect their actual market value. Now that enough orders are in transit to vindicate our storefront within the next few days, we are no longer accepting any new orders finalized early, and we are operating exclusively within the escrow system. We have recorded the buyer accounts of those customers who broke their word and changed their feedback from 5/5. It should go without saying that these accounts will not be offered a discount of any kind going forward. Sadly, most of these customers were the few that we managed to respond to in the flood of messages, and even more astonishingly, many among this group of customers received free samples from our storefront in an effort to compensate for delays.

Thank you for witholding your judgement regarding our storefront until the verdict from our customer feedback is in!
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: technopium on September 26, 2012, 05:05 pm
I do want to thank Raj/DB4D for giving updates regarding what is going on with the orders/samples.  I think I was one of the first ones to purchase the samples, as I put my order in last Tuesday and there were many changes made to the original ad since that time.  I am still waiting for the shipment and admit that I did not think it would take this long to arrive because if I was a vendor selling samples; it seems I would try and get them out as fast as possible to get people to buy bigger and more expensive orders.  I also doubt I will ever FE again unless I have a looooong history with the vendor.  There is just too much at stake. 
  He did say people should be receiving their orders today, so hopefully new reviews will start popping up in a few hours (with that feeling of Intense euphoria of course).  I will also post when I receive or hear anything more.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: TheGhost1 on September 26, 2012, 06:36 pm
Mail just came and STILL NO FUCKING PRODUCTS FROM THIS PRICK! Order was placed on Tues 9/19. He claims it was shipped on Sat. I feel he is giving these updated re-assurance messages and saying he will continue the discounted prices so people will continue to place orders and FE. He claims he does no longer require customers to FE but his original ad  still remains which advises customers they must FE. This fucker is a smooth talker which confirms to me more and more he is scamming. Its the newbies and individuals who don't research the forums to verify vendor crudentials who continue to make this cats wallet even fatter. However I originally was one of them and thats how he got me. Thank God I did not place a heavy order with this fucker. IF ANYONE gets their order please update and post on it. Thank you.
                                          Sincerely,
                                                  TheGhost1







Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: MaebyFunke on September 26, 2012, 07:04 pm
If he really did ship out some orders on Saturday, why hasn't anyone received theirs yet? If he is in the USA, people who live near him should have gotten mail by Tuesday or even Monday, and definitely by Wednesday. I've ordered NYC stamps before that took 2 days to get to me in regular mail (I live about 7 hours from NYC). He should not have been allowed to ask for all that FE when he barely had any feedback beforehand. Also, someone brought up that if he really was shipping a few days after everyone FE'd, it means he was saving their addresses somewhere while waiting to ship, since that info gets deleted after someone finalizes. I didn't get a sample from deathb4dishonor, I almost did but went with LeospacemanMD instead, who got my stamps to me in 2 days. That is a real vendor. deathb4dishonor just seems like a scammer.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 26, 2012, 07:21 pm
He sent me some H last Saturday I got it wensday...It was priority mail, he msg me 2 times since yesterday saying it was sent yesterday and will be here by saturday, he probly just didnt ship when he said he did for those who havent got  yet.. But priority mail takes 2 to 5 days MOST! Regmail is diffrent story, he came through once for me, i think he will again, i do not understand why ppl from order from over a week ago have nothing yet,unless it was not shipped the day claimed...keep updating guys
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: virtuoustrades on September 26, 2012, 08:12 pm
OKAY EVERYONE LISTEN UP!!
GO CHECK YOUR MAILBOX!
Product arrived as promised!
I'm sorry I ever doubted this vendor, he is professional and generous and HONEST!
My order was 200MG OVER!!!!
Can you believe that!
It has been a pleasure Raj,
I will be a repeat customer for sure!
Shipping: 5/5 (3 days) SUPER STEALTH
Product: 10/5! 200mg overweight!!!!!!!
Quality: Have not tested but looks GREAT!

Anyone who has doubts, throw them out the window.
Raj is a stand-up vendor who expanded his business too fast and couldn't keep up with the rapid increase of order volume.
I'm sure he is getting it all worked out so he can be more on time, but he gave all his customers extra products and discounts on next orders for the wait and the confusion. (Raj didn't say it but I think he just didn't get anyone's orders from last week shipped till saturday)

Give this vendor a chance!

He is NOT NOT NOT a scammer.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 26, 2012, 08:15 pm
HOLY SHIT!!! I cant believe he has said that.. This doesnt make sense to me at all, he has sent me a free sample and i paid nothing and got it, and ppl who have paid are not? i dont understand whats up with this... This is soo confusing
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 26, 2012, 08:22 pm
GLADE TO HEAR A UPDATE OF SOMEONE ELSE THAT GOT THE ORDER, I KNEW HE WOULD COME THROUGH, HE DID FOR ME ONCE, AND I FEEL HE WILL AGAIN, I HOPE HE THREW IN SOMETHING XTRA
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: virtuoustrades on September 26, 2012, 09:25 pm

So to Raj, if you are reading this, hear me out for a second. If you are filling orders when you do not have product or the means to ship that product as advertised, just take down your listings until you can keep up. This is common practice on SR, and I have had vendors cancel orders when they are backlogged or run out of a particular product. It will also save you being lambasted on the forums for something that may or may not even be true, as it is only Tuesday and shipping takes probably twice that.

 I assure you that when my order arrives as described, I will post the results of my chemical reagent tests and give Raj the credit he deserves for a successful sale as well as delete my posts.

sincerely,
zoe desschaneult

I agree 100% Zoe,
And I can't wait to see the results of your reagent test!

I made a a review thread for DB4D because I think all of us slandered his good reputation and I think he deserves to have a good reputation.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: virtuoustrades on September 26, 2012, 09:36 pm
Also, EVERYONE please post your reviews and results of reagent testing here:

deathb4dishonor *Official Review Thread*
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=45915.0
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: asdfsquared on September 26, 2012, 11:41 pm
yeah, still doubt anyone is getting anything.

Only feedback that has 'poured' in is this one virtuoustrades guy, who basically only has posts relating to deathb4dishonor. Almost all of which are extremely overly confident and positive.

Even on his seller account page, if you scroll through the feedback the ONLYfeedback indicating receiving product is from the virtuoustrades guy. you can tell, because he copy and pasted his exact review there.

Maybe virtuoustrades IS db4d. Maybe db4d singled this one person out to send a sample to, recognizing his vulnerability. Or, just maybe he lives nearby and got it first.

placed on order with db4d before most (including virtuoustrades), before 10 pages of 5/5 FE with no product poured in. At this point, I'm considering my money lost. If it shows up, great, but I'm not counting on it.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: metta on September 27, 2012, 12:04 am
Hi everyone,

Here's my story. I ordered a g about 2 weeks ago. At the time, db4d's ad stated it was the best cocaine in the U.S. I received it 3 days after it was marked "in transit." The stealth was good, the quantity spot on, but I felt the quality was lacking, certainly not the best on SR. I went through the entire g in one evening where normally it takes me a couple of days. It seemed to me the purity was in question, so I posted a rating of 4/5.

Raj contacted me a week ago and told me he saw my rating, and he wanted to send me a new sample, free of charge. Apparently, there was a problem with the quality from one of his 2 suppliers.

I received the sample today. A g of rock cocaine, no powder. So far, the quality seems much improved, so I have revised my rating to 5/5. I hope my experience eases any concerns others may have about the integrity of db4d.

Thanks Raj!
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: rem0ved on September 27, 2012, 12:12 am
has anyone else noticed the abundance of posters that start the post with a formal, letter style greeting? (Hello <name>,) and ends with a formal closing?(Sincerely...etc <name>)
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Anjin on September 27, 2012, 12:15 am
Well here is my update.  Products ordered are in my hands.  As to quality, I havnt tried.  In respect for the vendor, I am starting out by saying patience wins, and honor is restored.  I will update with quality after I have the chance to partake, in a differing thread.  As Raj has said, he would, and has, made good.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: metta on September 27, 2012, 12:19 am
By the way, I never contacted db4d about my slight disappointment with my initial order, I just chalked it up to experience in dealing with a variety of vendors as a new SR member. Raj contacted me about the free replacement order.

I believe this is telling ...
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: metta on September 27, 2012, 12:23 am
has anyone else noticed the abundance of posters that start the post with a formal, letter style greeting? (Hello <name>,) and ends with a formal closing?(Sincerely...etc <name>)

Is etiquette frowned upon amongst drug users? Hope not ...
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: rem0ved on September 27, 2012, 12:31 am
has anyone else noticed the abundance of posters that start the post with a formal, letter style greeting? (Hello <name>,) and ends with a formal closing?(Sincerely...etc <name>)

Is etiquette frowned upon amongst drug users? Hope not ...

its the similarity in the posts that caught my attention, not the etiquette itself. 

a number of them, in one thread, from different "newbie" accounts, all talking good about db4d.  i was starting to get skeptical of the whole thing when i saw the sheer number of FE's in the feedback and no reports of product received over the span of around 10 pages (aside from some amph sulphate orders).  now that i've noticed this, it has made me even more skeptical.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 27, 2012, 12:39 am
Iv been here on the road over a mnth, and iv mostly just been luking and learning trying to find who i can trust for what, Raj did send me some H last week, and he msg me last night saying it would be here saturday...I do have to say a couple ppl lke mtto has been saying for a little bit hes waiting for another sample that was offerd like  me.. But i do notice what you are saying Rem0ved
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: rem0ved on September 27, 2012, 12:46 am
Iv been here on the road over a mnth, and iv mostly just been luking and learning trying to find who i can trust for what, Raj did send me some H last week, and he msg me last night saying it would be here saturday...I do have to say a couple ppl lke mtto has been saying for a little bit hes waiting for another sample that was offerd like  me.. But i do notice what you are saying Rem0ved

right now, i dont so much think db4d is a scammer as i do think he is someone who got people to FE and then went and bought product with that money to send to people.  these next few days will say a lot
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: metta on September 27, 2012, 12:57 am
has anyone else noticed the abundance of posters that start the post with a formal, letter style greeting? (Hello <name>,) and ends with a formal closing?(Sincerely...etc <name>)

Is etiquette frowned upon amongst drug users? Hope not ...

its the similarity in the posts that caught my attention, not the etiquette itself. 

a number of them, in one thread, from different "newbie" accounts, all talking good about db4d.  i was starting to get skeptical of the whole thing when i saw the sheer number of FE's in the feedback and no reports of product received over the span of around 10 pages (aside from some amph sulphate orders).  now that i've noticed this, it has made me even more skeptical.

oh, ok, I understand now. Well, I suppose one who frequents the forums as much as you and is responsible for providing welcomed information on vendors would have a sixth sense about such things. My experience with db4d has been good . . . and surprising. I never thought a vendor would approach me with a free replacement order when I left what I thought was a good rating—4/5.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: metta on September 27, 2012, 01:04 am
Hey rem0ved,

Off topic, but I noticed the results of the recent ranking of vendors. I was surprised that drpvmd was not on the list since I've read nothing but good reviews and the two orders I've received from him were solid, among the best I've had here on SR. Just wondering what the parameters are for being included in the rankings ...
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on September 27, 2012, 01:10 am
has anyone else noticed the abundance of posters that start the post with a formal, letter style greeting? (Hello <name>,) and ends with a formal closing?(Sincerely...etc <name>)

Is etiquette frowned upon amongst drug users? Hope not ...

its the similarity in the posts that caught my attention, not the etiquette itself. 

a number of them, in one thread, from different "newbie" accounts, all talking good about db4d.  i was starting to get skeptical of the whole thing when i saw the sheer number of FE's in the feedback and no reports of product received over the span of around 10 pages (aside from some amph sulphate orders).  now that i've noticed this, it has made me even more skeptical.

oh, ok, I understand now. Well, I suppose one who frequents the forums as much as you and is responsible for providing welcomed information on vendors would have a sixth sense about such things. My experience with db4d has been good . . . and surprising. I never thought a vendor would approach me with a free replacement order when I left what I thought was a good rating—4/5.

he was cool as fuck to me. hasn't gotten back to the message i left him yet but i'm expecting my shit will be here by friday (west coast us) at the latest. i'm still throwing it up to him being overwhelmed by the just clusterfuck of orders that came in like immediately after i placed mine. if my shit comes in tomorrow or friday i won't be able to test till friday night but i am sure as hell posting ITT the second the package is in my hands and if it's good shit i am going to sing praises. i don't think someone who was kind of an established vendor would go fuck shit up but i know people on here have done that before (not to say db4d is going to) (ie establishing themselves and then taking the money and running afterwards).

i think the waiting has like... it's just gonna make the taste that much sweeter.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: rem0ved on September 27, 2012, 01:17 am
oh, ok, I understand now. Well, I suppose one who frequents the forums as much as you and is responsible for providing welcomed information on vendors would have a sixth sense about such things. My experience with db4d has been good . . . and surprising. I never thought a vendor would approach me with a free replacement order when I left what I thought was a good rating—4/5.

i skim through a lot of vendor pages...sometimes i pick things out correctly, sometimes i'm wrong.


Hey rem0ved,

Off topic, but I noticed the results of the recent ranking of vendors. I was surprised that drpvmd was not on the list since I've read nothing but good reviews and the two orders I've received from him were solid, among the best I've had here on SR. Just wondering what the parameters are for being included in the rankings ...

drpvmd is in stealth mode, and has been for a while now, having him on the list would kind of defeat the purpose and i only used vendors that were currently in the list, in the poll.

Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: metta on September 27, 2012, 01:35 am
Hey rem0ved,

Off topic, but I noticed the results of the recent ranking of vendors. I was surprised that drpvmd was not on the list since I've read nothing but good reviews and the two orders I've received from him were solid, among the best I've had here on SR. Just wondering what the parameters are for being included in the rankings ...

drpvmd is in stealth mode, and has been for a while now, having him on the list would kind of defeat the purpose and i only used vendors that were currently in the list, in the poll.

got it . . . thanks for the reply.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: larspurple on September 27, 2012, 01:59 am
Hi, I am very new to SR and this is my first post.  I have had 4 or 5 successful transactions on here and then I came across deathb4dishonor (and alllove)....of course I FE'd like a newbie idiot on the 14th and checked my mailbox for a week like a crackhead.  Last Friday, I changed my feedback to 1/5 and within a minute (literally) he emailed me asking me to change it.  He assured me that my order had "extras" even though he purposefully made it vague as to whether it had been shipped or not.  I thanked him for his response, and change my feedback to a 5/5 (again like a newb).  Last night, I came across these posts and my impression was that he is a legit vendor, but he has some serious cashflow problems, spending money when he didn't have it.  The whole "sample" thing reeks of someone who is desperate trying to get an influx of cash to buy what they have already promised, "Robbing Peter to pay Paul".  His page says that the delay is because of the volume, but I feel like I could realistically send out a hundred packages a day if it was my job.  Anyways, the panicking on here about  deathb4dishonor being a SCAMMER or LE didn't get to me and I simply asked him for a refund.  I was pleasantly surprised when I woke up this morning to see that he had sent said refund.   Granted it didn't include the shipping that I paid as well, but regardless it was a nice surprise.  My take on the situation is that he is not a scammer or LE, but he probably has a habit of spending money faster than he makes it.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 27, 2012, 02:29 am
I see things have started to get better as far as raj and hes feedback for ppl, i guess he just jumped in and has had to learn from mistakes on how to run his business the way SR is done. But i got the feeling also he got all the FE money and went and bought more so he could take care of everyone this week, so whatever the case is ppl r getting their stuff and faith seems to now begun to be restored in Raj, I was soo surprised in him contacting me and offering me a free sample for my consultation about his product..And he has kept his word, he says he sent it, he went out hes way to msg me 2 times and say he wass sorry and it would be here saturday, hopefully it was more than last time for the hassel and wait but whatever even if not still will be happy..And the wait is just making it better now that we know it is now coming for sure, thank god im not a H addict or even Opiate pill addict like i once was, methadone has saved me, any body with opiate issues check  it out, i went from banging up to 3 80mg oc a day to then up to 15 k4 daladas a day to 120mg of methadone now to 20mg...I dont even get high on it....But i like the once in a while nice buzz for the day
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: technopium on September 27, 2012, 02:50 am
I am not seeing any glowing reviews of his product, or that many people even received it.  It seems that a couple people have got theirs, but many are out there (including mine) that have not been received.  Sorry to say, but will have to change feedback if it's not here tomorrow.  I can't be told it's coming I shipped it out- Sat, Tues, whatever, but it never seems to appear and many other people have the same story.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: greatgreatgrandpa on September 27, 2012, 04:49 am
He has made away with everyone's money, that FE'd that is. I finalized on a 12.50  point of C. but not on my other order. I am not expecting anything.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: virtuoustrades on September 27, 2012, 05:17 am
yeah, still doubt anyone is getting anything.

Only feedback that has 'poured' in is this one virtuoustrades guy, who basically only has posts relating to deathb4dishonor. Almost all of which are extremely overly confident and positive.

Even on his seller account page, if you scroll through the feedback the ONLYfeedback indicating receiving product is from the virtuoustrades guy. you can tell, because he copy and pasted his exact review there.

Maybe virtuoustrades IS db4d. Maybe db4d singled this one person out to send a sample to, recognizing his vulnerability. Or, just maybe he lives nearby and got it first.

placed on order with db4d before most (including virtuoustrades), before 10 pages of 5/5 FE with no product poured in. At this point, I'm considering my money lost. If it shows up, great, but I'm not counting on it.

With that said, I'm also posting this from a throwaway account I have so that its not linked to my actual SR account. Why? In case he IS just delayed, I want to buy my 'discounted' drugs.

Lol, I have been a member for longer than deathb4dishonor has.
I was lucky to get my product early, as many people have stated, I think Raj didn't have enough money to get product for everyone, so had to have a bunch of people finalize early and wait for a lot of bitcoins so he could go out and get a a bulk amount of product... which is unfair to his clientele, but I am sure he is working hard.

I was one of the first people to notice the problem of people not receiving their orders for too long:

I'm just wondering... Has anyone actually got their samples? Because looking on the feedback it says FE for like 6 days, no "great product!" or anything... Raj said he shipped mine out saturday so in good faith I think he will pull through. I think he added too many new products at such low sample sizes too fast and can't keep up. I bet he's swamped just trying to get everything shipped out...

I helped start this whole thing and felt bad for trying to slander his name as an honest vendor.

After further experimentation with his product, (#4H) it is not the best, but has had me nodding all day on 300mg over 12 hours insufflating. (I don't IV)

I haven't been very active on the forums, just an on-and-off traveler of the road for the past 6-7 months
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: MaebyFunke on September 27, 2012, 12:43 pm
Does anyone else find it suspicious that he has 3 new feedback items, all from 12 hours ago, that all say "package arrived"? Did those people not have to FE and coincidentally all posted their feedback at the same time?
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: asdfsquared on September 27, 2012, 03:31 pm
Maybe virtuoustrades IS db4d. Maybe db4d singled this one person out to send a sample to, recognizing his vulnerability. Or, just maybe he lives nearby and got it first.
Lol, I have been a member for longer than deathb4dishonor has.

so? you also have very similar usernames and speaking styles. Most vendors are buyers before they are sellers. Not saying you for sure are, since no one knows but you and him. But we cannot rule out the possibility.

regardless of whether or not we were scammed, db4d is still being extremely manipulative, and in my opinion does not deserve that much praise, even if more product is received.

Does anyone else find it suspicious that he has 3 new feedback items, all from 12 hours ago, that all say "package arrived"? Did those people not have to FE and coincidentally all posted their feedback at the same time?

Yes, very. I find everything about this suspicious. Again, not saying their for sure fake, since we do not know, however it is still very likely.

I think feedback padding is extremely common around here. If you truly are a trustworthy vendor, but need the reputation, its just smart business. Any legal businessman would do the same.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: rem0ved on September 27, 2012, 03:48 pm
Does anyone else find it suspicious that he has 3 new feedback items, all from 12 hours ago, that all say "package arrived"? Did those people not have to FE and coincidentally all posted their feedback at the same time?

i saw 3 last night...maybe the same ones...and the first was 30 mins prior, 2nd was 34 mins prior and the 3rd was 36 mins prior and all started with "product arrived," "package arrived," "order arrived,"
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 27, 2012, 04:05 pm
I know the guy that said he got his gram of C, had indeed been waiting and commenting right along with me as waiting on a another order cause the first wasnt good, so i feel hes legit, and the virtues he descibes the H the exact way it looks and everything, remember i had a bag last week, so i do believe they got this stuff.. But there still many more ppl waiting so will see
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: rem0ved on September 27, 2012, 04:24 pm
I know the guy that said he got his gram of C, had indeed been waiting and commenting right along with me as waiting on a another order cause the first wasnt good, so i feel hes legit, and the virtues he descibes the H the exact way it looks and everything, remember i had a bag last week, so i do believe they got this stuff.. But there still many more ppl waiting so will see

he very well could be legit, and for the sake of everyone who FE'd, i hope he is.

there are a number of things that would normally be considered odd behavior from a vendor and someone to watch out for, that have come up in this thread. 

i dont understand how buyers are still so fine about FE'ing for anyone.  i guess most of the users here that do it are probably new and have no idea who tony76 was.  people really need to brush up on their SR history.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 27, 2012, 06:01 pm
I have to agree Rem0ved the actions that have come up in the last week have raised a Flag, Iv just mainly sat back and lurked and read and checked out who seems to be legit and who not insted of jumping in with just anyone, It pays to do your homework unless your just filthy rich and can loose btc's with no issue at all... Im not one of those ppl so i have to pick and choose wisely so im gonna read read and read more about a vendor and history anytime before oders.. I dunno if ppl think that just because its setup like a regular buyers market its scam proof or what but we know its not.... As iv said My past weeks history with DB4D came out fine, and hopefully it will again forevery one... Good luck everybody and Raj, Just learn from u misshaps and make your self a better vendor for us in the future , cause i have no issue ordering from u as long as the parcel comes in like u said it would, and i have no reason at this time to say it wont...Will update saturday if it arrives..
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: anex45 on September 27, 2012, 07:19 pm
Does anyone else find it suspicious that he has 3 new feedback items, all from 12 hours ago, that all say "package arrived"? Did those people not have to FE and coincidentally all posted their feedback at the same time?

I saw that too and immediately though it was pretty suspect. I'm watching this from the sidelines and all of it screams a scam to me but I hope it works out for the people that purchased it because I hate to see people lose their money. I cringe everytime I see a newbie heroin user cruising around the open air markets and corners looking like a deer in headlights just waiting to be burned by all the dealers, they love taking advantage of people not on top of their game. You wouldn't hand your money over before you saw the bags in real life so why do it on the internet? Anyone who's been in the dope game for awhile knows that you can't trust anyone when it comes to heroin, otherwise you're going to get burned over and over.

I think the excuse he's giving of being swamped with orders is bullshit, there's plenty of vendors with more volume who are able to get their product out same day and even the one's who are casual vendors still get their stuff out within 1-2 business days.  I just made two orders from two different H vendors on here Tuesday and they're already here on Thursday and I never had to FE.

Why deal with this bullshit when there's plenty of other vendors on SR who sell quality heroin and get your order shipped out same day? If a vendor is asking you to FE you should politely tell them to cancel your order and then take your business elsewhere. There's so many people here who get scammed FEing for a vendor and then come to the boards pissed off as hell and it happens over and over and over again, don't let vendors take advantage of you. If they don't have the funds to ship out product to buyers without having them to FE, they shouldn't be selling.

Anyways, I sincerely hope everyone who has ordered from him gets their product and it was worth the wait. I just don't want to see those who have ordered from him get fucked over and I really hope he turns out to be a great vendor but just be careful.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: rem0ved on September 27, 2012, 07:42 pm
i was just thinking...with db4d raising his prices up to "crazy, wtf, uk prices", maybe 90% of those FEs were actually him buying his own samples to give himself that huge amount of feedback in order to try and make people think $197/g is worth it

*tinfoil hat off*...for now
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: MaebyFunke on September 27, 2012, 08:22 pm
Kinda weird that its now Thursday and there are still no updates except for that virtuoustrades guy and a few scattered feedback ratings. That includes the 3 new ones that all coincidentally showed up 20 hours ago. This is extremely sketchy. Someone also posted the same review, "Products are superb. Vendor is going to make things right. Give DB4D a chance..you will be blown away by the quality. :-)" three times, one was 4 days ago and the other two were 8 days ago. Seems like feedback padding to me.

 If he even shipped out 1/3 of those orders on Saturday, there should be much more feedback. How can a vendor even be allowed to do this?
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on September 27, 2012, 09:09 pm
meh
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: anex45 on September 27, 2012, 09:42 pm
Kinda weird that its now Thursday and there are still no updates except for that virtuoustrades guy and a few scattered feedback ratings. That includes the 3 new ones that all coincidentally showed up 20 hours ago. This is extremely sketchy. Someone also posted the same review, "Products are superb. Vendor is going to make things right. Give DB4D a chance..you will be blown away by the quality. :-)" three times, one was 4 days ago and the other two were 8 days ago. Seems like feedback padding to me.

 If he even shipped out 1/3 of those orders on Saturday, there should be much more feedback. How can a vendor even be allowed to do this?

Just imagine how long it would take him to get out regular product if it takes him this long just to get out samples. I would hope that people would stop purchasing his items until a considerable amount of customers have received the product and reviewed it. 1.95BTC might not seem like much but those bitcoins could be used on a vendor who's actually shipping things out on time.

I honestly hope we're all wrong and people start receiving the product and it's great quality, hopefully this guy ends up proving himself but I strongly urge all potential customers to be wary and use your own judgement.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: willwham1 on September 28, 2012, 12:42 am
There is absolutely NO reason to FE peeps....why the fuck would ya anyways? SR rules say this and they back you up on i too. I even see some vendors stating that FE is legit but IT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO LEGIT....ppl, do not FE, just when you get your order as is expected, THEN FINALIZE ASAP so the vendor gets their money, afterall, they do have lots of BTC in escrow and need to re-up. Just a lil thought!
Peace!
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 28, 2012, 12:57 am
But dont almost anyone with really only 1 or 2 transactions and new have to FE? or it seems most long time vendors want it, i dunno maybe im wrong...The 2 times i have bought i had to FE in one cause said i was a newer guy and the other i did not..Soo why doesnt SR truly crackdown N let vendors know dont even try and think about it where not allowing it?
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: greatgreatgrandpa on September 28, 2012, 03:11 am
Yeah AA, noone thinks you or VirtousTrades are anybody but Raj himself. If that is the case, then let me say that you should be more professional, and if you are going to be a scumbag thief, be better at hiding your tracks. Your piece of shit business model is unraveling before our eyes. you only took me for 13 bucks, so that makes you a bit more than the old "two-bit" thief, but it still makes you a piece of shit. You got the remainder of my coins after placing orders (already filled in some cases) with professionals, you got the scraps of professionals. That's what bottom feeders do, they steal the scraps and crumbs of honest and professional commerce. You aren't some vigilante, you aren't some Robin Hood figure, you are a sea slug. Scraping your feeding and sex organs in a mechanical motion against the very bottom of the earth where all the shit and trash and pollution resides in hopes that you will scrounge up nourishment for your pathetic, listless, purposeless existence.


And if AnonAddict and Virtuos Trades aren't DB4D, well fuck it, I am sure you are...

fuck this vendor... I'm gonna get high on drugs that professionals send out.


ETA:
3 of 5    Canceled because he didn't have it in stock but the listing was still up, not very reliable.    2 hours    item (item was a custom listing for Test55) 

This was the newest bit of info. Just bizarre.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: antigrid on September 28, 2012, 03:41 am
Still haven't received anything, ordered last weekend and FE. This sucks, I was holding out faith but it's not looking good. After those most recent feedbacks went up I immediately noticed they were worded very similar to his wording. Notice the use of the word "patience" in two of them, and most obv , saying "honor is restored", very similar to his wording in the message he sent out and posted here talking about honor. I could really use that 500mg right now, for some reason I have had really bad luck with all orders placed this week (4 different vendors) and might be in for a hellish weekend (withdrawal + pain of condition I have).

Has the guy who said he contacted SR admins heard anything back yet?
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: anex45 on September 28, 2012, 03:56 am
But dont almost anyone with really only 1 or 2 transactions and new have to FE? or it seems most long time vendors want it, i dunno maybe im wrong...The 2 times i have bought i had to FE in one cause said i was a newer guy and the other i did not..Soo why doesnt SR truly crackdown N let vendors know dont even try and think about it where not allowing it?

Nope, I have never once been asked to FE by any vendor except for 1 who said if I chose to FE he would add an extra .2 to my gram of heroin but I politely told him I don't FE and he still shipped it. My account is only a month old and I only have 6 transactions but I've spent over $500 so far and every vendor I have dealt with has had no problem selling to me.

If a vendor asks you to FE, DON'T! There's to many good vendors on here that let you stay in escrow so just go with one of them. Even if the vendor has a high rating and is a trusted vendor, don't FE...there's a long history of reputable vendors ripping people off or selectively scamming after months of good feedback/reviews on SR.

You just can't trust any vendor on here no matter how many times you've purchased from them, escrow is there to protect you and it's built into SR for a reason...so buyers won't get scammed but for some reason lots of people ignore it and just blindly FE and then throw a fit once they've been scammed even though it's repeated over and over in the buyers guide and on the forums to NOT FE.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: anex45 on September 28, 2012, 04:00 am
Still haven't received anything, ordered last weekend and FE. This sucks, I was holding out faith but it's not looking good. After those most recent feedbacks went up I immediately noticed they were worded very similar to his wording. Notice the use of the word "patience" in two of them, and most obv , saying "honor is restored", very similar to his wording in the message he sent out and posted here talking about honor. I could really use that 500mg right now, for some reason I have had really bad luck with all orders placed this week (4 different vendors) and might be in for a hellish weekend (withdrawal + pain of condition I have).

Has the guy who said he contacted SR admins heard anything back yet?

I'm sorry to hear this man, withdrawal sucks :( I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy. Have you tried Hatter, Nod, or Seneca (his is only good for IV though)? They all have consistently good product and they almost always ship out same day and don't require FE.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: anex45 on September 28, 2012, 04:03 am
Yeah AA, noone thinks you or VirtousTrades are anybody but Raj himself. If that is the case, then let me say that you should be more professional, and if you are going to be a scumbag thief, be better at hiding your tracks. Your piece of shit business model is unraveling before our eyes. you only took me for 13 bucks, so that makes you a bit more than the old "two-bit" thief, but it still makes you a piece of shit. You got the remainder of my coins after placing orders (already filled in some cases) with professionals, you got the scraps of professionals. That's what bottom feeders do, they steal the scraps and crumbs of honest and professional commerce. You aren't some vigilante, you aren't some Robin Hood figure, you are a sea slug. Scraping your feeding and sex organs in a mechanical motion against the very bottom of the earth where all the shit and trash and pollution resides in hopes that you will scrounge up nourishment for your pathetic, listless, purposeless existence.


And if AnonAddict and Virtuos Trades aren't DB4D, well fuck it, I am sure you are...

fuck this vendor... I'm gonna get high on drugs that professionals send out.


ETA:
3 of 5    Canceled because he didn't have it in stock but the listing was still up, not very reliable.    2 hours    item (item was a custom listing for Test55) 

This was the newest bit of info. Just bizarre.

I hope you end up getting your stuff...hopefully all of us are wrong and all the customers who FEd get their product....I stayed clear away from this deal but kept watching this thread because it just really REALLY pisses me off to see my fellow users lose money or get scammed.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: antigrid on September 28, 2012, 04:32 am
Still haven't received anything, ordered last weekend and FE. This sucks, I was holding out faith but it's not looking good. After those most recent feedbacks went up I immediately noticed they were worded very similar to his wording. Notice the use of the word "patience" in two of them, and most obv , saying "honor is restored", very similar to his wording in the message he sent out and posted here talking about honor. I could really use that 500mg right now, for some reason I have had really bad luck with all orders placed this week (4 different vendors) and might be in for a hellish weekend (withdrawal + pain of condition I have).

Has the guy who said he contacted SR admins heard anything back yet?

I'm sorry to hear this man, withdrawal sucks :( I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy. Have you tried Hatter, Nod, or Seneca (his is only good for IV though)? They all have consistently good product and they almost always ship out same day and don't require FE.

I do IV, actually, actually, I placed an order with hatter today, it was late, right at his cutoff time but its still processing so I don't think it went out today so I most likely will not receive until Monday bc if it didn't go out today it probably won't go out til tomorow afternoon. Also ordered from stuff from a few other well known vendors and every order is still processing, but one of which I am pretty sure went out but probably won't get here until monday either :(. I tried to plan ahead, really sucks. Have never tried Nod before, nor Seneca , do you think if I order express with them tonight I would receive by sat?

At what point do we say, "ok" , the gig is up? I ordered priority with db4d as I am sure many others did, and priority never takes that long to pretty much anywhere in the US. It would be such a relief to have that tomorrow and to not go through withdrawal.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 28, 2012, 04:48 am
How the hell could i be db4d or raj when ever im the fucking one that brought this post up about wanting a update?? Im waiting on more shit now too bro, damn ....I was the one who started this shit about wanting to know what the fuck was going on...So u neeed to look at the way my writing is and he's im not db4d, i got one sample last week i am waiting on my 2nd...wtf?
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 28, 2012, 04:53 am
Gradndaddy poppa or whatever ur name is, WHAT THE fuck sense would it make for me to put up sevral posts trying to get the guys attention if i was him?? That makes no sense and u need to sit back and read my fucking posts and stop pointing vingers, im the original thread poster, soo take that somewhere else, im still waiting also, if i was him i guess i would probly be more praising and so on... I dunno bout virtious dude, i can only speak for myself....Rethink that
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 28, 2012, 05:17 am
I cant make u think any diffrent if thats how u feel, but like i said grandpapa im waiting on my other sample also, he msg me tuesday and said it was sent... so think what u want , iv have Pm several PPL asking about have they herd anything and so on, like apples for one.. I dont need to explain myself, and virtious trade, i dont believe is raj dbd eaither cause i had a PM convo with him and he knew more about the H product then raj did when he fist startd selling...Im only posting my honest experiance and the dude sent me a sample and i got it last week, hopefully he did again, i cant say he wont cause he did one time before
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on September 28, 2012, 05:34 am
AA isn't db4d
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: anex45 on September 28, 2012, 05:53 am
Still haven't received anything, ordered last weekend and FE. This sucks, I was holding out faith but it's not looking good. After those most recent feedbacks went up I immediately noticed they were worded very similar to his wording. Notice the use of the word "patience" in two of them, and most obv , saying "honor is restored", very similar to his wording in the message he sent out and posted here talking about honor. I could really use that 500mg right now, for some reason I have had really bad luck with all orders placed this week (4 different vendors) and might be in for a hellish weekend (withdrawal + pain of condition I have).

Has the guy who said he contacted SR admins heard anything back yet?

I'm sorry to hear this man, withdrawal sucks :( I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy. Have you tried Hatter, Nod, or Seneca (his is only good for IV though)? They all have consistently good product and they almost always ship out same day and don't require FE.

I do IV, actually, actually, I placed an order with hatter today, it was late, right at his cutoff time but its still processing so I don't think it went out today so I most likely will not receive until Monday bc if it didn't go out today it probably won't go out til tomorow afternoon. Also ordered from stuff from a few other well known vendors and every order is still processing, but one of which I am pretty sure went out but probably won't get here until monday either :(. I tried to plan ahead, really sucks. Have never tried Nod before, nor Seneca , do you think if I order express with them tonight I would receive by sat?

At what point do we say, "ok" , the gig is up? I ordered priority with db4d as I am sure many others did, and priority never takes that long to pretty much anywhere in the US. It would be such a relief to have that tomorrow and to not go through withdrawal.

Try sending Seneca a message and explaining your situation to see if maybe he can make you up a custom order with express shipping to go out asap. His dope is just average but it gets the job done/is great for the price plus he's a nice guy...the only semi-complaints I've heard is from smokers who say his product smokes harsh but I bang it just fine and get a nice high by just doing a little more then my usual amount. I think if he gets it shipped out express tomorrow then there's a good chance it'll get to you on Saturday but it just depends on where you live. I always get Express packages the very next day but I know sometimes it can be a crapshoot.

Anyways, good luck man and I hope something comes through for ya...I'll probably be withdrawing by Sunday since I planned my week/funds out horribly lol.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: anex45 on September 28, 2012, 05:56 am
How the hell could i be db4d or raj when ever im the fucking one that brought this post up about wanting a update?? Im waiting on more shit now too bro, damn ....I was the one who started this shit about wanting to know what the fuck was going on...So u neeed to look at the way my writing is and he's im not db4d, i got one sample last week i am waiting on my 2nd...wtf?

I wouldn't take it personally, I think he's just upset about his order right now (and rightfully so).

I did look over DeathB4Dishonor's vendor page and compared it to the 3 feedbacks that were left at the same time and...

"To everyone, patience is the key"
"Will report on forums after trial"

"Patience wins and honor is restored"
"more for the forums."

they sound REALLY similar to his regular choice of words....maybe just a coincidence but damn lol.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on September 28, 2012, 06:01 am
i'm just saying even though i am not well known on this forum i would put my reputation now and future on AA not being db4d. he's cool as fuck.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Joeyjojojr on September 28, 2012, 11:17 am
Accepting orders, especially ones that require FE, without having the product on hand ready to be shipped out is totally bogus and unacceptable. Total scammer behavior.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: greatgreatgrandpa on September 28, 2012, 11:33 am
Update on the Scammer piece of shit DB4D

Hello friend,

In fact, your order is due to ship out tomorrow with the remaining first class parcels. Unfortunately, we cannot be of any further assistance until the rating you have issued for your feedback is reverted to 5/5.

If you are able to change the rating by tomorrow we will put your parcel in the mail. We cannot respond to any further communications until your rating is changed.

Thank you for your understanding in this matter.

Raj

This was in my messages this morning, I changed my feedback from a 5/5 (FE, will update upon arrival) to 1/5.

2 hours later, I am messaged by him, with the above message. Fuck this faggot. Anyone seen he moved his price of MDMA to 184 a gram? What a punter this faggot is...
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: papples on September 28, 2012, 01:21 pm
Geez. I'm glad i held off on going with this guy. I hope he comes through for you guys.

my question is at what point does SR step in and take down his listing so that no others can be scammed?


Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: shadrock on September 28, 2012, 02:20 pm
Update on the Scammer piece of shit DB4D

Hello friend,

In fact, your order is due to ship out tomorrow with the remaining first class parcels. Unfortunately, we cannot be of any further assistance until the rating you have issued for your feedback is reverted to 5/5.

If you are able to change the rating by tomorrow we will put your parcel in the mail. We cannot respond to any further communications until your rating is changed.

Thank you for your understanding in this matter.

Raj

This was in my messages this morning, I changed my feedback from a 5/5 (FE, will update upon arrival) to 1/5.

2 hours later, I am messaged by him, with the above message. Fuck this faggot. Anyone seen he moved his price of MDMA to 184 a gram? What a punter this faggot is...

 :o WOW. This supposed vendor should be banned ASAP. I don't know how the SR admins respond to these situations, or what their policy is, but requiring FE and then holding packages hostage for good reviews is not acceptable.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: TeejusJesus on September 28, 2012, 02:37 pm
I wasn't required to FE early and was told mine would be sent out on Saturday(tomorrow). I even asked how to FE being a new user and all and he didn't require me too. I placed my order Monday night. So idk guys. Hope everyone gets their shit.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: shadrock on September 28, 2012, 02:46 pm
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=45275

Apparently he has bumped up his prices to "nearly double" and is now using escrow and not requiring FE. I've seen one other claim in addition to the one in this thread that he has threatened to withhold shipments until feedback was changed to 5/5. He has also, by his own admission, black listed people who didn't give 5/5 reviews. So much for customer service I guess.

I have no interest in dealing with someone like this.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: MaebyFunke on September 28, 2012, 02:50 pm
Update on the Scammer piece of shit DB4D

Hello friend,

In fact, your order is due to ship out tomorrow with the remaining first class parcels. Unfortunately, we cannot be of any further assistance until the rating you have issued for your feedback is reverted to 5/5.

If you are able to change the rating by tomorrow we will put your parcel in the mail. We cannot respond to any further communications until your rating is changed.

Thank you for your understanding in this matter.

Raj

This was in my messages this morning, I changed my feedback from a 5/5 (FE, will update upon arrival) to 1/5.

2 hours later, I am messaged by him, with the above message. Fuck this faggot. Anyone seen he moved his price of MDMA to 184 a gram? What a punter this faggot is...

This almost proves that he is a scammer...why hadn't your order been shipped out already in the first place? You guys know why he keeps messaging the people who change their reviews and telling them they need to change it back? Because he never sent them out in the first place. I guarantee you that if someone who placed their order a week ago went and changed their feedback, DB4D would message them saying "yours was going out tomorrow, but now its not!" He is admitting he is a scammer by revealing that he actually hasn't mailed out the packages of people who FE'd for samples. I contacted SR support about him already. I didn't buy anything from him myself, but think what he is doing is fucked up and he needs to be stopped.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: newjac on September 28, 2012, 02:59 pm
I haven't been around that long, but I'm pretty sure that if admins knew this piece of shit was threatening not to ship to folks until they gave him a good feedback he'd be canned immediately -- I believe it's even specifically stated somewhere...been following this thread because I'd been considering trying the goods, but this fuck keeps talking about honor and then praising himself with fake accounts, *totally* fucking with people and their money, and on top of it all straight out *lying* -- where's the honor in that?

Hope you all get your money back..
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: MaebyFunke on September 28, 2012, 03:10 pm
I just logged in and saw SR Supports reply to my message about deathb4dishonor. They said thanks for the heads up, and they will be keeping an eye on him. I'll update if I hear anything new.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 28, 2012, 03:18 pm
WTF??? the guy said he posted orders saturday and tues day and now ppl that gave him a low ratting our getting personal msgs in fact saying he did not ship? This is soo fucked up, i hope it all works out for all of us but from those type msgs it doesnt look good.. I hope when he PM me and said he shipped mine tuesday it wasnt BS.. He really sent the first time, I just dont know what to say anymore
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: MaebyFunke on September 28, 2012, 03:29 pm
WTF??? the guy said he posted orders saturday and tues day and now ppl that gave him a low ratting our getting personal msgs in fact saying he did not ship? This is soo fucked up, i hope it all works out for all of us but from those type msgs it doesnt look good.. I hope when he PM me and said he shipped mine tuesday it wasnt BS.. He really sent the first time, I just dont know what to say anymore

You should change your rating and see what he does...if he messages you and says that he actually hasn't shipped your order, and demands that you change your feedback, then you know he was lying and is a scammer. If he already sent out your order, then there is nothing he could do anyway! I think that everyone else should do this too. If DB4D claims to have shipped your order, change your feedback. He will either message you and say that he didn't ship out your order and you must change your feedback before he will (which will prove that he's a lying scammer) or if your order is actually shipped out, there's nothing he can do anyway! This guy is almost definitely a scam, and he shouldn't be allowed to continue this bullshit.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 28, 2012, 03:48 pm
Well the issue is with me is re offerd to reship me a free sample, so i cant go do anything with the rating issues, All i can do is update on here, he told me to look for my order saturday, that he shiped tuesday, and he contacted me on his own so i was hoping he wasnt lying..o well guess i'll find out today or tomorrow , the first time it was sent on saturday and i got it on a wensday
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: fuckyou777 on September 28, 2012, 05:23 pm
i ordered friday. i was told it wouldnt ship unless i FE'd. i did that on saturday morning...

i was worried all week (first purchase on SR). but YAY yesterday my sample was received and of excellent quality. good #4.
today i received a BONUS package. so really i couldnt be happier. also i seem to be one of those customers  who receives the permanent discount on his wares.... i couldnt be happier with this vendor.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 28, 2012, 05:40 pm
UPDATE!!!!!!!!! I HAVE just reciieved my re ship of a free sample from DB4D....iT came today he shipped priority mail tuesday like he said and i was not expecting at least until tomorrow and to my surprise after all the BS it did arrive today... He didnt send much of anything of the #4 one line..But it was good...Im on 20mg of done and i slamed it and it gave me a good little buzz and rush, just wish he would have sent more, was only enuff for a shot, but o well it was free so i cant complain...Also seems better than last time...First order i got about .125 i guess is what he said he sent i dunno im new to that stuff, but i ddint feel it very much and the tiny bit he did resend was pretty good, at this point since he is not requesting FE NOW i will order from him...He came through for me 2 times, so i dunno why he is acting the way he is with the ppl who have paid him, Holding ppls stuff Hostage for a good 5/5 is not a honorable thing and he always speaks about behing Honorable , but hopefully everyone will be surprised and it will come through, If not demand a REFUND, or chancge your rating until he contacts u and u work something out...Im only posting my Honest experiance with this vendor.. I would have no reason to lie cause i have nothing to gain, im only updating to let everyone know he seems to be getting things in order...Best luck to everyone waiting...If any question just PM me..LATER..

AA
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: greatgreatgrandpa on September 28, 2012, 05:47 pm
I still smell bullshit all over this thread and vendor, I suppose if I do get something in the mail, I should send SR admin my info in case I get cynaide'd. We'll see anyway...
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: dirtRacer on September 28, 2012, 06:22 pm
It does suck as I've got about $180 FE'd to raj myself, but I still don't think he's a thief.  Disorganized, overwhelmed, underfunded....perhaps.  A straight up thief...i don't believe so.  I looked through all his feedback and he seems like a decent human being that maybe got in a bit over his head on this last dealy.

On another note, how the FUCK does he have time to send a bullshit FREE sample to AA (no offense to you AA) and not my FUCKING PAID orders??  WTF
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: DrJewberg on September 28, 2012, 06:53 pm
HEY GUYS! I received my order today, surprisingly, lol. My 1.5gs were 100% accurate with weight, and the potency is quite astonishing. Just wanted to let you know that you should all have faith! I'm not sure how Raj and the group runs their business, but i can say that my transaction from Friday worked out, and yours will all as well, or he will be happy to refund you, I'm sure.
Sorry that I doubted you Raj!
And in case you all think I'm Raj, since my account has a small amount of posts... I've been a member on the forums for a few months, along with my sr account being made in december and have $20000~ worth of transactions, yeah! :D
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: rem0ved on September 28, 2012, 07:12 pm
lots of "sorry i doubted you" type comments from the people who received orders...even people who didnt "doubt" him to begin with.


...odd
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: MaebyFunke on September 28, 2012, 07:39 pm
Rem0ved, I agree. What's also interesting is that "fuckyou777" has no other posts, and "Dr Jewburg"s posts are almost all either about deathb4dishonor and some other vendor named SKYY, who coincidentally also turned out to be a scammer who made people FE and ran off with their money...

If you look through DB4D's feedback, almost all of it is still people waiting. If he shipped out even 1/3 of the orders on Saturday or Tuesday, there should be much more feedback. Please, no one else order from him! Something is seriously wrong here.

Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: rem0ved on September 28, 2012, 07:47 pm
Rem0ved, I agree. What's also interesting is that "fuckyou777" has no other posts, and "Dr Jewburg"s posts are almost all either about deathb4dishonor and some other vendor named SKYY, who coincidentally also turned out to be a scammer who made people FE and ran off with their money...

If you look through DB4D's feedback, almost all of it is still people waiting. If he shipped out even 1/3 of the orders on Saturday or Tuesday, there should be much more feedback. Please, no one else order from him! Something is seriously wrong here.

it boggles my mind how people could still be FE'ing for him, if it's not actually him doing it himself
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: drpepper on September 28, 2012, 08:05 pm
I'm so glad someone posted this thread in one of their feedbacks before I ordered!

Can anyone suggest a seller for coke and heroin that is reputable?
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: MC Haberdasher on September 28, 2012, 08:11 pm
I'm so glad someone posted this thread in one of their feedbacks before I ordered!

Can anyone suggest a seller for coke and heroin that is reputable?

Check the Heroin and Cocaine threads.  Finding H and C from one vendor without FE is getting hard as of late it seems.  I have been searching for the past few days myself.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: mtndew123 on September 28, 2012, 08:23 pm
Ok so this is my first post, yes I understand that people will think that it is scetchy. But I am a true buyer and I have been following this form since day 1. I ordered last thursday and for sure thought I was scammed. I just got it today in the mail, all the ones I ordered where there. Stealth was HORRIBLE. And i cant try it because I had to start subxone since it took so fucking long. But I still got it. all i am saying is that he is not scamming, or he at least didnt scam me. Ty
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: zoedesschaneult on September 28, 2012, 09:24 pm
hey guys, just received some product from DB4D today in the post..... remember me? I was flaming on the dude just a couple days ago, and he came through for me. granted I do live pretty close, I'd expect most people will be receiving their product before monday.

head on over to his review thread if you'd like to read my appraisal of the product:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=45915.msg487711#msg487711

as for those of you who haven't gotten yours, just be patient. and for those of you who are posting who haven't even ordered from the guy, GTFO.

Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on September 28, 2012, 10:23 pm
still have not received my order or any replies to msgs (placed last wed). im assuming it will be here tomorrow i guess.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: BandW on September 29, 2012, 12:58 am
for what its worth -  my sample arrived today
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: RadioDog on September 29, 2012, 02:23 am
for what its worth -  my sample arrived today
How was the stealth?
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: WannaBuySomeWatches on September 29, 2012, 02:35 am
It does suck as I've got about $180 FE'd to raj myself, but I still don't think he's a thief.  Disorganized, overwhelmed, underfunded....perhaps.  A straight up thief...i don't believe so.  I looked through all his feedback and he seems like a decent human being that maybe got in a bit over his head on this last dealy.

On another note, how the FUCK does he have time to send a bullshit FREE sample to AA (no offense to you AA) and not my FUCKING PAID orders??  WTF

lol yeah I'm with you on this one... tomorrow is going to be a make it or break it day.  I will stand there looking out the window at the mailbox for several hours, itching for a bump of any of the 3 different vendors I ordered #4 from with express shipping all 4-7 days ago, like a sad puppy waiting for its owner to return.  And then the mail comes, and there's nothing there (or worse, the mail just never comes and you wait all day), and you just want to punch someone in the face.  Not looking forward to that feeling tomorrow :/  It's the worst when you expect something on a Sat. (and there's no Sunday post), and nothing comes.  ughhh so many times before!
/me crushes up 5 thirties to ease the emotional pain just the thought of that is causing
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 29, 2012, 02:37 am
Stealth wasnt good, last week it was, he did not even vacume seal my stuff..But at this point im just glade i got it...Wasnt much but i guess 50mg is only suppose to be about a line or so , last week i got a lot more, but again todays was better also, so id rather have 1 shot and be good all day then 3 and not much of nothing.. It came through, so when he msg me tuesday he really did send it, he told me to expect by tomorrow, so i was surprised to get today, when i read the return address it kinda threw me off i was thinking something else other than his pack, but it was good enuff, it got here and it was good, as lon g as he doesnt ask for FE i will order a few more bags if he will in fact ship the day he says, I even msg him to tell him it came and i got it and thanks and he didnt respond so im guessing he really isnt checking the mssgs, and only msgs those who change the rating to a bad one, so if u need his attention change ur rating and it seems thats what gets him to msg you. He did what he said 2 weeks in a row for me, i dunnno what has happend and why some are not getting theirs but it hasnt been a issue other than when he said he would send...The H itself i thought was great, it has had me warm and fuzzy all day,any questions msg me
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: electriccrazyman on September 29, 2012, 03:26 am
My small order arrived. I don't FE but figured I could risk a few bucks to see if the product matched the hype. I haven't tried yet but will update when I do.

Packaging was good but it wasn't vacuum sealed - no odor though. All in all, ok. Communications were good, etc. I would not FE again for a slightly larger order. Hopefully he's adjusting his policy at least for established buyers.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: MaebyFunke on September 29, 2012, 04:23 am


as for those of you who haven't gotten yours, just be patient. and for those of you who are posting who haven't even ordered from the guy, GTFO.

I just want to remind everyone that vendor discussion is encouraged, so ignore this guy and discuss vendors freely  :D
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: modest mouse on September 29, 2012, 05:20 am
seriously, why the fuck does he care? he should be appreciative that other members of the community have an accurate representation of the vendors service since the feedback is falsified

just want to inquire with RAJ as to why he is sending out free orders to improve his rep when those who paid still havent arrived? it seems like many of the orders you sent out were people who were causing a lot of negative discussion, if those few receive then it proves you are legit and more people will be comfortable FE. maybe not but at least it will shut them up



even if DB4D is not scamming, i want to point something out. is it just my interpretation of his actions, or has Db4D likely posted the same feedback 5 freaking times, as well as multiple others with his clear similar language? Has he misrepresented when he shipped packages. - already saying packages were shipped but then when feedback is changed blackmailing members, with-holding shipment of their shipped orders? Is it just me or has DB4D even threatened members, potentially with already having saved their address, or at a minimum to blacklist them... if they do not comply with his wishes?


---->
Maybe others do not realize this, but in the sellers guide it says doing a single ONE of those things will be grounds for revocation of seller privileges...

Quote from the sellers guide: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/sellers_guide

"Things to avoid
Below is a short list of specific things you should avoid. It is by no means exhaustive, but taking any one of these actions could get your seller priviledges revoked:

    Directing your customers to pay outside the escrow system or in currencies other than Bitcoin
    Leaving fake feedback for yourself from a dummy buyer account
    Threatening your customer, even if it is a veiled threat
    Saving customer addresses
    Claiming to have sent an order when you haven't"

Is he not guilty of ALL THE LAST 4 of those? Maybe i am wrong and interpreted his actions incorrectly?
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: anex45 on September 29, 2012, 05:35 am
So what's the status on this?

Has everybody received their orders now, or just some, or none at all? It's very weird because I'm seeing all these forum posters who are saying they have received their orders but I don't see any of that feedback on his vendor page yet?

I'm hoping I'm wrong about the guy and everyone gets their orders in time to enjoy it over the weekend! :)

One thing is for certain....I agree with the poster above me, it's very messed up that he was blackmailing customers and he did lie about when the items were sent out because it does not take over a week for domestic mailing.

If you receive your orders, enjoy it but please be careful when FEing guys, I hate seeing people lose money or put themselves at risk.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 29, 2012, 06:28 am
I was kinda wondering why the feedback for the rating review hasnt shown that eaaither, I cant reflect it on there cause mine was a free reship, if i could i would, thats why i came to the forums.. Maybe the same with the other guys, dunno
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on September 29, 2012, 06:31 am
So what's the status on this?

Has everybody received their orders now, or just some, or none at all? It's very weird because I'm seeing all these forum posters who are saying they have received their orders but I don't see any of that feedback on his vendor page yet?

I'm hoping I'm wrong about the guy and everyone gets their orders in time to enjoy it over the weekend! :)

One thing is for certain....I agree with the poster above me, it's very messed up that he was blackmailing customers and he did lie about when the items were sent out because it does not take over a week for domestic mailing.

If you receive your orders, enjoy it but please be careful when FEing guys, I hate seeing people lose money or put themselves at risk.

i still haven't and i placed my order last wed.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: WannaBuySomeWatches on September 29, 2012, 08:36 am
I was kinda wondering why the feedback for the rating review hasnt shown that eaaither, I cant reflect it on there cause mine was a free reship, if i could i would, thats why i came to the forums.. Maybe the same with the other guys, dunno

We get it.  We're all waiting for our orders, yet every single post of yours just keeps reiterating that you've received multiple free orders even within the timeframe that more of us have paid for them.  Aweee we all feel so bad that you can't leave feedback for your free orders  :'(

Bragging in every post you make on this thread--whether subtle (even just mentioning it) or blatantly obvious--about the size and number of free orders he's sent you is just making everyone else more pissed off...


And to whoever else was bitching about this being a review thread, it wasn't started as one and isn't specifically one.  It's a specific vendor discussion thread where a select few have posted reviews, and the rest try and figure out where their money went.  I'm kinda confused why some of these people are so mad though, when they only risked $12.  If $12 is that significant to you, you probably shouldn't waste it on SR.  If you're mad just out of principle then that's understandable.  It really hasn't been too long though, except when you realize that in the time since you've ordered, DB4D had sent AA yet another freebie which was received within a couple days.

From one corner of the country to the other corner of the country, say, san diego to maine, would still only be a max of 3 days in transit for priority mail and maybe another day or two for first class, tops.  So if he actually shipped everything Tuesday, we should all be a lot happier tomorrow (except AA, unless he's getting another freebie, which will make the rest of us less pleased should ours not arrive too).
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: hanzs0l0 on September 29, 2012, 11:21 am
Hello all,
Just wanted to provide my update. I first placed a custom order with Raj about 2 weeks ago. He responded that if I FE, he would ship express for free. Since I wanted the product for the weekend, I went ahead and did as he asked. Weekend came and no product. i downgraded his feedback to which he promptly responded by refunding my money and said that he did not want to ship when I was providing sub par feedback. This pissed me off to no end as I as the customer should be the one that cancels a trasaction after FEing. He also stated that the product went out to someone else. After a nasty pm to him, I ended up changing his feedback back to 5/5 since he did give me my money back. At this point he offered as a sign of good faith to send me half of my order free of charge (1/2g of coke) via priority. Also about this time his listings for sample popped up and I purchased 2 samples, again FEing as this was required. The week ended and my priority package did not arrive. I wrote to Raj and asked that I be refunded for my sample purchase as I had made him out to be a complete scam. He refunded my money promptly with no questions asked and also stated that my free compensation order would be to me by the end of the week. Again, the end of the week came and no product. I changed the feedback again to 3/5 and heard back from Raj on the following Wed (this past week). He said he noticed that I had changed my feedback and he hoped that I would change it back as he had sent the promised half gram the previous day, Tuesday via priority and it would arrive Fri or Sat. Of course I did not believe this! Friday (yesterday) cam and so did the half gram via priority shipping - all free to me! Raj did come thru in the end. I think this guy used the FE system to get enough funds together to purchase product to then meet the orders that had been placed. I think this process took much longer than Raj expected. Raj did come thru for me in the end and I think most if not all others are going to find the same result. His product is good and hopefully this initial discretion has got him to the point where he can list product that he has in his possession, not require FE and ship after order is placed.

At the end of the day, I will try to order from Raj again, but he will have to assure me ahead of time that the product is in hand and will ship within 24hrs. Also, I will not FE nor will I pay the double price he has listed. Actually I sent him a request for a custom order last night and he responded that he is short on product at this point but to check in with him middle of next week.

Good luck to everyone else, hopefully your experiences all end for the positive as did mine!

Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: MaebyFunke on September 29, 2012, 02:10 pm



---->
Maybe others do not realize this, but in the sellers guide it says doing a single ONE of those things will be grounds for revocation of seller privileges...

Quote from the sellers guide: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/sellers_guide

"Things to avoid
Below is a short list of specific things you should avoid. It is by no means exhaustive, but taking any one of these actions could get your seller priviledges revoked:

    Directing your customers to pay outside the escrow system or in currencies other than Bitcoin
    Leaving fake feedback for yourself from a dummy buyer account
    Threatening your customer, even if it is a veiled threat
    Saving customer addresses
    Claiming to have sent an order when you haven't"

Is he not guilty of ALL THE LAST 4 of those? Maybe i am wrong and interpreted his actions incorrectly?

Yep, which is why he should have his seller's privileges revoked. People who are that irresponsible/sloppy with sensitive information such as buyer addresses should NOT be vendors on SR. DB4D is a danger to the community. At the least he is an incompetent moron, and at the most a dangerous scammer/blackmailer who is preying on people that want highly-desired items. And almost all the people who are claiming they got their orders seem pretty sketchy, like that "zooeydeschanault" person who is actually getting hostile to people saying negative things about DB4D (even though there are plenty of negative things to say about him). VERY strange.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: steady01 on September 29, 2012, 03:35 pm
Received my order today after 7 days. Full review in other thread.
Title: Never a more satisfied virgin there was
Post by: I Luv Bluberries on September 29, 2012, 06:13 pm
 :o To the negativity that has bounced around here the past weekish; honestly, in some small way, I get it.  I'm an American (o noes personal info), and I am a pretty sarcastic, caustic (when I want to be), and jaded ass son of a bitch.  I am.  I placed an order Sunday evening 9/23 at approx 8pm.  Okay.  Really no reasonable (or even unreasonable) person would expect that day to count or for an order to be sent immediately.  I mean, seriously.  I received a few communications from 'Raj' regarding my order.  A couple were responses to inquiry, one was not.  All were respectful, pleasant, specific, and accurate.  Of course my messages to 'Raj' or the DB4DH account were also pleasant and patient.  I kept my feedback at 5/5 with fingers crossed.  Yes, I worried. 

You see, this was my FIRST EVER order on SR, placed maybe an hour after my registration, which was occurred about an hour and a half after I started trying to figure the whole thing out which led to Tor and etc etc rest is history here I am.  So yeah, I was worried.  Man, I just might've pissed a bunch of money down the toilet.  But I read a lot, I researched DB4DH a lot, past feedback, the forum, etc.  And something in the jaded ass son of a bitch that was me still said, not really a reason to feel screwed yet; somehow I continue to believe human nature is inherently good.  At first anyhow.  As people progress down the road of life our experiences mold and shape us, and eventually I believe the inherent 'goodness' can be worked out of the system, if one tries hard enough and is negative enough in their thoughts; perhaps in some actual rare cases life HAS really dealt someone a particularly shitty hand.  Even then, Helen Keller had every reason to be a raging cunt, yet she wasn't once she learned how to communicate.  And that's really what I see this whole ordeal as: a failure to communicate.  Now some might say, "Yeah, DB4DH and Raj they didn't communicate," and /begin rant.  But that's not where I'm going.  For me it was 5 24 hour periods before I got product.  Monday 11am (a reasonable time to ship if that's when it was, it wasn't, but bear me out) to Saturday 11am.  Someone might say, "That's six days," but do the math, that's 5 24 hour periods, 120 hours, 5 days.  I ordered priority mail.  Should have been 3.  But this is America; supply-chain economics and small business are the foundation of the nation. 

DB4DH/Raj had taken more orders than they knew what to do with (they filled them, but that was a figure of speech), they had orders for more product than they could ship because they didn't have it. 

When the iPhone first came out, and then subsequently sold out, did people yell down Steve Jobs as a dishonest prick who was stealing peoples' money?  No.  I am sure at least someone pre-ordered and didn't get one right away.

When Super Mario Bros. 3 came out and parents everywhere were pulling hair out and had to give their kids IOUs, did said children divorce their parents as shitty providers and in general bad, dishonest people?

And when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor...  Forget, I'm rolling (on this crazy good shit from DB4DH!).

He came through.  He communicated.  Was I a minority in the communication?  Possibly.  Was it because I didn't post hate and judgment without really enough time even passed?  Possibly as well.  But I bet even the people who hated, or changed their feedback to 1/5 are going to get their product, and it is going to be straight and what they ordered.

So I, for one, goddamnit, wanted to make a statement for Raj and DB4DH.  They kept their word.  THEY KEPT THEIR HONOR.  They delivered.  And it is GOOD!  So fear not - and please, go order something from those guys - because if this one experience and its product result is any evidence, that is one goddamn upstanding business being run and they went through a tough period of growth and as far as I'm concerned came out smelling like FUCKING ROSES and I will never buy H from another vendor so long as DB4DH is around.  Or anything else I can get there without shopping around.

PEACE
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on September 29, 2012, 08:04 pm
still haven't received anything (my order was placed on the 19th or 20th) and was bigger than a sample amount. a 'hey this is what's up' msg would be appreciated at this point bc i'm starting to think this is getting kinda ridiculous and a little bit not cool i guess.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 29, 2012, 09:03 pm
We get it.  We're all waiting for our orders, yet every single post of yours just keeps reiterating that you've received multiple free orders even within the timeframe that more of us have paid for them.  Aweee we all feel so bad that you can't leave feedback for your free orders  :'(

Bragging in every post you make on this thread--whether subtle (even just mentioning it) or blatantly obvious--about the size and number of free orders he's sent you is just making everyone else more pissed off...
 
Bro, i bought my first bag and complained about it, WTF ru lashing at me for? Its not me fault the guy offerd it, he did the same with another guy and sent him a whole fucking Gram of C for Free.Also he gave virtious trades 200mg xtra for free, this last bag he sent was just trying to make up for the first order.. So dont come at me that way bro, iv done nothing but try to update and help... Would u have turned down a offer for a free reship?> NO!!  Soo no need to be rude to me
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 29, 2012, 09:07 pm
@ MAYBE...I wasnt complaining , i was just saying i cant reflect it on the review so i did on here, i have not recived several free orders, U guys need to get off my case with these smart remarks , I understand its pising ppl off that paid, but im only leaving my honest feedback.. Iv even been accused of being RAJ!! LOL but i made the post wanting the update..
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: absolveusall on September 30, 2012, 12:24 am
Wow, I'm not alone here I see! I ordered on the 21st. On the 27th I asked where my order was and didn't get a reply until days later. Later he replied and asked that I change my feedback to 5/5 and only then would he provide tracking . I do so and the tracking shows it shipped on the 27th (WTF?!) and would be delivered on the 29th. Here we are, the 29th and the fucking thing hasn't even left it's destination. Total unprofessional, BULLSHIT.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on September 30, 2012, 01:18 am
Wow, I'm not alone here I see! I ordered on the 21st. On the 27th I asked where my order was and didn't get a reply until days later. Later he replied and asked that I change my feedback to 5/5 and only then would he provide tracking . I do so and the tracking shows it shipped on the 27th (WTF?!) and would be delivered on the 29th. Here we are, the 29th and the fucking thing hasn't even left it's destination. Total unprofessional, BULLSHIT.

i still think he got fucked with just the sheer order of people wanting little h sampler bags. i placed my order probally right before or right around when there was like 40 or so people making orders with him. i mean i'm not mad or anything personally i just want some kind of confirmation or my dcn number or something you know. he was really cool to me in the beginning and willing to accommodate my requests. i still think he should have closed his shop for a few days instead of like letting the boat fill up with more water so to speak.

but i feel you dude i really do
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: willwham1 on September 30, 2012, 01:33 am
I believe many of these vendors get overloaded and dont know how to operate when so many orders come in. They do not know who is who, what is ordered and where everything is going. They get very overwhelmed then drop off the SR. Not a very great thing since it harms ALL OF US....getting reliable vendors to supply our wares is getting harder and harder. SHit, I am still considered a NEWBIE and only when I first joined, getting H in the States was so easy, now, FORGET IT! I do not know ANY of these new vendors, not saying any of them are bad, just dont know....thats the problem....reliability is an impossibility here on the SR at least for the mighty Diesel!
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: JahBUDS on September 30, 2012, 01:56 am
People to get overwhelmed... especially if they are running the whole operation by themselves!
I know a lot of greedy buyers here.. WHO.. just because you "placed" and order, does not mean we're going to be able to get it
wrapped up and ready to go at a decent enough time to where it can make it to you in 2-3 days.
Shit happens.. real life does not stop for Silk Road. We wish it did, but it doesn't. ::)

AND.. Well, I, personally, remember when we started.. We have more than 2 people working with us.. and whenever we'd get 10 orders,
who ever was working on the LT at the time.. would get overwhelmed.. and we hadn't even done anything yet but "seen 10 orders."
So, I do agree that people get overwhelmed, sketched out, and just disappear.. if not let everyone know they are shutting down for awhile.

I know a few vendors, who want to "throw in the towel".. because of how much they get dicked around and bitched out on here.
I mean, we all live lives just like the rest of everyone else on here who wants their drugs. Unforeseen circumstances do arise from time
to time.. but we.. and everyone else who Vends here.. usually tries to do their best. (I know you do have those shitty Vendors who just don't care. We know a few.)
But... before push comes to shove.. at the end of the day.. we all have a job to do. Whether it is buying or selling.
It must get done!

In body and mind,
Jah.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: virtuoustrades on September 30, 2012, 03:21 am
This is getting ridiculous... People flaming each other all grumbling and hootin and hollerin at each other over their orders being delayed! and WannaBuySomeWatches, you are the biggest noob in this thread and your flaming AA, who is a respected member of this forum... Just everyone relax.
This is what happened and it's simple:
1. DB4D expanded his business too fast, didn't anticipate the volume of orders, got way backlogged, and peoples orders have been delayed drastically. Yes, he has been dishonest i the form of white lies and probably had to use the money from everyone finalizing early to get more product while in the meantime he was telling people he sent their orders out when he hadn't. This is poor business conduct and he should be criticized for it, but the big picture is he has been keeping his word and everyone is slowly getting their orders and it is HIGH QUALITY!.
2. Just be patient and don't attack each other!
3.  Why is heroin better than women?
A1: Heroin doesn't mind being abused.
A2: The heroin itself doesn't pose a risk of HIV infection.
A3: When travelling with heroin, you don't have to pay its ticket.
A4: High grade heroin is, after all, much cheaper than high grade women.

:)

Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: rem0ved on September 30, 2012, 03:27 am
This is getting ridiculous... People flaming each other all grumbling and hootin and hollerin at each other over their orders being delayed! and WannaBuySomeWatches, you are the biggest noob in this thread and your flaming AA, who is a respected member of this forum... Just everyone relax.
This is what happened and it's simple:
1. DB4D expanded his business too fast, didn't anticipate the volume of orders, got way backlogged, and peoples orders have been delayed drastically. Yes, he has been dishonest i the form of white lies and probably had to use the money from everyone finalizing early to get more product while in the meantime he was telling people he sent their orders out when he hadn't. This is poor business conduct and he should be criticized for it, but the big picture is he has been keeping his word and everyone is slowly getting their orders and it is HIGH QUALITY!.

i'm just going to comment on #1...based on what i've seen, db4d has marked items in transit and told people the order was on the way...then, when the buyer changes the feedback from 5/5 to 1/5, db4d sends them a message saying that if they dont change it back the order will not be sent.

that right there is grounds to have his vendor account terminated.  who cares about any of the other details...he is in over his head or a scammer.  regardless, that is the type of person you want to avoid...not put more faith in.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on September 30, 2012, 03:27 am
This is getting ridiculous... People flaming each other all grumbling and hootin and hollerin at each other over their orders being delayed! and WannaBuySomeWatches, you are the biggest noob in this thread and your flaming AA, who is a respected member of this forum... Just everyone relax.
This is what happened and it's simple:
1. DB4D expanded his business too fast, didn't anticipate the volume of orders, got way backlogged, and peoples orders have been delayed drastically. Yes, he has been dishonest i the form of white lies and probably had to use the money from everyone finalizing early to get more product while in the meantime he was telling people he sent their orders out when he hadn't. This is poor business conduct and he should be criticized for it, but the big picture is he has been keeping his word and everyone is slowly getting their orders and it is HIGH QUALITY!.
2. Just be patient and don't attack each other!
3.  Why is heroin better than women?
A1: Heroin doesn't mind being abused.
A2: The heroin itself doesn't pose a risk of HIV infection.
A3: When travelling with heroin, you don't have to pay its ticket.
A4: High grade heroin is, after all, much cheaper than high grade women.

:)

lol
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: TeejusJesus on September 30, 2012, 04:36 am
Has anyones order been changed to in transit today from proccessing?
I was told my package would be shipped today and its stilll shown as processing. Dope sick waiting on this package...
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: OnceOff on September 30, 2012, 04:53 am
As the name and post count suggest, I created this account just to comment on this whole deathb4dishonor thing, although I'll probably keep it now since I'm sure this isn't the last time a vendor will do this kind of thing.

To begin with, yeah I ordered a sample and FE'd. I like to try out the new domestic sources since even though Canada ain't that far away, its still international and I'm not totally comfortable with it. I'm probably not alone on that. I ordered on the Thursday or Friday of last week and it's not here. I ordered from another vendor Monday this week, and it arrived yesterday from clear across the country via regular first class mail. I don't think he's a scammer or LE, but even if my order does arrive, and it's totally awesome quality and I get the advertised half price discount forever more, I won't use this vendor again.

Here's why - he claims to have been overwhelmed with orders, and probably was, if it's good and he only wanted 12 bucks for 50mg who wouldn't want to try it out; five of them is a 1/4 gram for like $60 plus shipping. So now he's overwhelmed with orders and can't fill them so he tells people something along those lines and that he sent them out Saturday and Tuesday (although clearly not mine unless he's in Hawaii or Alaska or something). When people don't get their orders in the expected time frame they quite rightly start changing their feedback, and what do you know? Raj points out he hasn't sent anything yet and was just about to (again, he probably was just about to since he was so far behind), and if you don't change your feedback he wont, which is also totally not cool, but whatever that's not my main concern here.

How the hell does he know he was about to send your order? Isn't he like super overwhelmed? If he got that many orders and he made everyone FE then he's obviously keeping track of names and addresses outside of SR since the addresses are deleted after you finalize.

Perhaps he's just got a photographic memory, or everyone except me is using the name on their mailing address as their SR username? For me, the idea of someone like this keeping a record of a name and address that's at least loosely associated with me is kind of the end for a vendor (it's my favorite drop, so my bad for using it with an unknown).

Since most people are probably just reading this thread to see whether they're going to get their order or not I'll just capitalize the main point to make skimming over the whole post easier for them.

HE HAS YOUR ADDRESS STORED SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE OF SILKROAD.

What really sucks here is that even though the rules say never FE, I sometimes do with vendors I've used before or that have good history on the forums and feedback. Not everyone is from a drug cartel and has hundreds of pounds of product lying around to sell, some vendors probably have to put in a bit of effort to offer the service they do which may or may not involve fronting a fair bit of cash just to put something in the mail and hope the buyer won't leave it to auto finalize. If those vendors have the product I want, and I don't have to go downtown, or to meet someone in a car park somewhere to get it, then I'd like them to stick around.

Anyway, we'll see what happens with 'Raj' in the next week. There's other domestic vendors offering smaller amounts like stamps (still not used to the term, from the wrong part of the country I guess) and I've ordered from both a couple of times, there was an issue with one, but it was proactively made right and then some. Plus as an added bonus, their products arrive.

I guess the legal fees to pay for those monks that were in jail or whatever are paid now? I can't remember what it said but I'm pretty sure that was the story on the vendor page when I first looked. Wow, I wrote a much longer post than I intended.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Tbear2012 on September 30, 2012, 04:56 am
Well, I ordered on the 21st and thought today, sat, would be the farthest out it could possibly take... Im sure hoping my patience pays off.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on September 30, 2012, 05:49 am
Well, I ordered on the 21st and thought today, sat, would be the farthest out it could possibly take... Im sure hoping my patience pays off.

it said on his pro he sent out the last of the backlogged orders today. our shit might have been in that so i'm guessing maybe wed at the latest... meh
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on September 30, 2012, 06:13 am
Apples a;; i can say is you have patience and faith my good man, i would have been flipping and cussing this guy out by now.. As long ago as you orderd! And hes has sent 3 free reships to ppl insted of sending to you guys that paid, And to the guy that made the comment about the free reship sample he sent me in your  words" BOOOO HOOOO" U didnt pay for my shit bro so dont worry about me, i cant help its the way he chose to do his sending. AT this point i will order a few bags from raj next week as long a FE is not requird and im also gonna give PILL a try.. He offer  250mg for 4.44 btc,, thats damn good is it not? As iv said im new to H is 50mg ONly 1 line? I dunno and i dont have a digital scale, and to be honest how do u know how many MG u have your H broke up in? Just by eye balling the bumps or lines...Anyway til i cant afford hatter26 which im looking forward to im gonna have to try pilll out unless some of those stamp bags come around, but im trying to get to most H for 60bucks worth of btc, and it looks like PILL is the man..
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on September 30, 2012, 06:23 am
Apples a;; i can say is you have patience and faith my good man, i would have been flipping and cussing this guy out by now.. As long ago as you orderd! And hes has sent 3 free reships to ppl insted of sending to you guys that paid, And to the guy that made the comment about the free reship sample he sent me in your  words" BOOOO HOOOO" U didnt pay for my shit bro so dont worry about me, i cant help its the way he chose to do his sending. AT this point i will order a few bags from raj next week as long a FE is not requird and im also gonna give PILL a try.. He offer  250mg for 4.44 btc,, thats damn good is it not? As iv said im new to H is 50mg ONly 1 line? I dunno and i dont have a digital scale, and to be honest how do u know how many MG u have your H broke up in? Just by eye balling the bumps or lines...Anyway til i cant afford hatter26 which im looking forward to im gonna have to try pilll out unless some of those stamp bags come around, but im trying to get to most H for 60bucks worth of btc, and it looks like PILL is the man..

try jankyjankins' shit when he relists his shit is pretty fire. i don't remember how much he wanted for like a half a gram or a gram but it was pretty reasonable and i'm sure he would do a smaller amount if you asked.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: zoedesschaneult on September 30, 2012, 06:48 am
damn I AM SKETCHY.

AND hostile!!!!!!
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on September 30, 2012, 07:27 am
damn I AM SKETCHY.

AND hostile!!!!!!
adderall
more like
umadderall
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: CETD on September 30, 2012, 07:34 am
It's a scam. I fell for it because I got careless after so many good transactions and hey, I wanted to try the "Best Stuff on SR." Fortunately I can afford to lose the coins but the irony is that IRL, I scam-bait (look it up).  All the red flags were there (the biggest of which is the Levamisole scare tactic), but I still fell for it (because I wanted to believe it) and Raj is doing exactly what successful scammers do: he's keeping the carrot just in front of us.  In this case it actually resembles a ponzi scheme. He'll deliver just enough product to just enough people to keep everyone else guessing. This thread, "tell us what your experience is," is exactly what he needs because ITP (innocent third parties) will actually vouch for him and as a result, the rest of us keep seeing the carrot.  He only needs to interact/deliver/refund a few people, just enough to create a vocal minority, and a very convincing one at that (because they are actually one of us) to keep everyone else on the hook.  Write it off, guys. Maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones in this ponzi scheme that gets paid off, but probably not.  This is textbook. 
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: TeejusJesus on September 30, 2012, 05:07 pm
I've been in processing since the 25th with really no replies except the one he sent out to everyone saying orders would be sent out yesterday.
Yesterday came and no message and still processing.

If I cancel while still in processing will I instantly get my btc back?
Id really hate to do that but I've no idea what's going on as I can't seem to get a message back. Sucks because I only put enough in for this order and I wanted to get something I don't normally get locally.


ATTENTION DeathB4Dishoner, just let me know what's up. I don't want to cancel. Just getting anxious sitting here waiting just for a reply.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: MC Haberdasher on September 30, 2012, 05:17 pm
I've been in processing since the 25th with really no replies except the one he sent out to everyone saying orders would be sent out yesterday.
Yesterday came and no message and still processing.

If I cancel while still in processing will I instantly get my btc back?
Id really hate to do that but I've no idea what's going on as I can't seem to get a message back. Sucks because I only put enough in for this order and I wanted to get something I don't normally get locally.


ATTENTION DeathB4Dishoner, just let me know what's up. I don't want to cancel. Just getting anxious sitting here waiting just for a reply.

If you are getting antsy, and have the opportunity to cancel now, I absolutely would.  Nothing against the vendor, but don't  keep faith in someone who has a sketchy track record at best.

There are plenty of other vendors who have their shit together.  Wouldn't you rather support someone who will most likely treat you right?

I know I would.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: mistervic on September 30, 2012, 07:48 pm
its been over 10 days since i ordered my "sample". last sunday he said itll be out monday. i paid for tracking (lol) and no number has arrived. also i didnt PGP i used privnote instead and i should have gotten an email letting me know it was opened and destroyed. that message hasnt arrived yet either. im pretty sure he hasnt even looked at my address, let alone pack my shit up and send it out.


im pretty sure most of us arnt getting shit from this guy. im giving him 7 more days and then im changing my feedback. if you havent received anything and gave this guy a 5/5, go back and change it after like two weeks. give this guy a chance to do the right thing. but if he isnt, then people need to be warned. 
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: MaebyFunke on September 30, 2012, 07:51 pm
I've been in processing since the 25th with really no replies except the one he sent out to everyone saying orders would be sent out yesterday.
Yesterday came and no message and still processing.

If I cancel while still in processing will I instantly get my btc back?
Id really hate to do that but I've no idea what's going on as I can't seem to get a message back. Sucks because I only put enough in for this order and I wanted to get something I don't normally get locally.


ATTENTION DeathB4Dishoner, just let me know what's up. I don't want to cancel. Just getting anxious sitting here waiting just for a reply.

If you are getting antsy, and have the opportunity to cancel now, I absolutely would.  Nothing against the vendor, but don't  keep faith in someone who has a sketchy track record at best.

There are plenty of other vendors who have their shit together.  Wouldn't you rather support someone who will most likely treat you right?

I know I would.

Exactly. Storing buyer information, taking extreme amounts of time to supposedly ship (although this could just be him stalling to prolong the scam) and the only people vouching for him are new people or people who strangely have been on the forums for a long time, but all or most of their posts are only about DB4D...this whole thing isn't worth it. Take your money somewhere else, people. A vendor this irresponsible should not be allowed on SR. If you look on his profile, most people still haven't received their orders. He could be a selective scammer at best.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: MC Haberdasher on September 30, 2012, 07:57 pm
Just the prices he is offering now is enough to turn me off..  His grams of coke are priced waaaaay above average for SR.


DB4DH must be smoking ALPACINO's hash non-stop if he thinks his shit is worth that price.

Dude is probably loving all the forum attention he is getting..  Like the narcissist he probably is.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Anjin on September 30, 2012, 08:28 pm
I might be a new member, but I have completed a fair number of purchases thru a pile of differing vendors.  And I am one of those that was sitting and waiting for two weeks for a package.  I took the time to write out a calm email to SR Support, asking them to simply cancel the outstanding transactions.  I used the email from Raj stating he was putting it in transit ahead of shipping as my reasoning.  I at that time had three orders outstanding.  Once from before he switched his listing from #3 to #4, the other two for the newly listed #4 and some samples of that coke.

And I did get all my orders.  They came in on the exact same day, which indicates the emails he sent me stating the orders were Shipped were in fact bogus... It says he got reupped and then sent it out on the same day.  But there is an honesty issue right there alone, simply because he sent an email on that first package stating it was shipped on day X, and it arrived 2 weeks later along with the packages I ordered when his 'sample sale' went up.

He also had stopped communicating with me at all, until I sent SR Support that email to please just cancel out the orders, no harm, no foul, and let us all go along our way.  I refused to FE period, and am one of the many who probably told him that FE was not a requirement, and was not recommended, even to a highly trusted vendor.  In every single FAQ, regardless of official or a board users write up, they all state 'NEVER FE'.  And I for one stood behind that.  But as soon as that email went out to SR Support, within a few hours, I got a personal email from Raj with all the same excuses and that it was all being accounted for ASAP.  And I did in fact get my orders within 3 days of that email. 

But trust this.  I didn't come to the road just to support one vendor.  I am sharing my honest experience with this vendor here.  I am not paid or compensated in any way for my reviews.  On this vendors case, I think he got carried away with some new products, put them up for sale with the FE requirement so he could collect some cash and orders.  Then when he had enough, he went and reupped with his suppliers for the new orders.  Some of the earliest, like my first order, got delayed a couple weeks.  And many of them may still need another week to arrive.   As someone else mentioned, a Ponzi scheme for drugs...

BTW, the products I received were great.  The H isn't pure fire... I weighed out 40mg, making a half dozen little packages.  Then I snorted these over the course of an evening.  And found it tastes fine, left no burning, and did the trick to give me the itching and the nods.  It wasnt potent enough to get me puking, but it was strong enough to make me notice it was there.  Like pulling up the blankie before bed, nice and warm fuzzies.  And the C was some of the best I have had from SR.  Taste and action were my benchmarks, and it had both.  It did not numb out my teeth, but it also didnt start a sinus infection with me blowing out green/yellow snot.  The crappy cuts we all hate do that to me... Within just a few hours or a day or so, I will start blowing out chunks of nasty that tell me a colony of bacteria have gone mad up in my sinus and I will pay for weeks for one nights fun.  It's gotten so bad I just gave the hell up with C all together.  So it took time, but my wait did get my products in hand, as well they were solid products I would buy again.



Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: TeejusJesus on September 30, 2012, 10:25 pm
I took the advice and cancelled. Bought from a different vender and the package is already in the mail. Fuck DB4D will never attempt to buy from again.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: MC Haberdasher on September 30, 2012, 10:34 pm
I took the advice and cancelled. Bought from a different vender and the package is already in the mail. Fuck DB4D will never attempt to buy from again.

Just because a vendor marks it in transit, doesn't mean that it has in fact shipped (dude, it's sunday).  Just don't finalize until you get your shit.

I FE'd for Montell Williams..  Im willing to toss a BTC away just to see if he actually sends the shit.  But, I thought long and hard about it before I did that.

I'm glad you took the advice, you probably feel way more at ease, yeah??
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: TeejusJesus on September 30, 2012, 10:49 pm
I took the advice and cancelled. Bought from a different vender and the package is already in the mail. Fuck DB4D will never attempt to buy from again.

Just because a vendor marks it in transit, doesn't mean that it has in fact shipped (dude, it's sunday).  Just don't finalize until you get your shit.

I FE'd for Montell Williams..  Im willing to toss a BTC away just to see if he actually sends the shit.  But, I thought long and hard about it before I did that.  I won't bitch if it doesn't show.


I'm glad you took the advice, you probably feel way more at ease, yeah??



Yeah I feel way better. And no I def didn't FE. Glad I didn't FE for db4d, I came to the road without any research and kind of jumped into a transaction and found out afterwards FE is a bad idea.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on October 01, 2012, 05:16 am
meh i'm kinda almost over this.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: zoedesschaneult on October 01, 2012, 05:36 am
never have I ever seen so many people flame over 12$ f/real
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on October 01, 2012, 05:58 am
Thanks apples for putting any doubt about me being RAJ  etc to rest.. I find it very unfair their are member that have paid btc for their order and not recived it...THIS IS NOT RIGHT DB4D!!!! apples like me an u have chatted in pm, change your rateing to a 1/5 that seems to make him msg you right off, It makes no sense he sent mine tuesday and i got it friday while all my other sr brother have been waiting 2weeks+, I suggest any of you waiting over 5 days for priority mail, hell even 1st call us to us is only 7 days, so i suggest change your rating and tell him u have no issue putting it back and doing what he asks as long as he gives u a track # proving your order has been sent out... I would order from raj again but not til he catches up with all you guys.. Im looking into another new vendor named PILL who is willing to do custom ordering a 250mg is only like 55bucks, so 60 with priority Im thinking thats damn good am i right or not about that guys? 250mg for 55bucks? What does that turn out to be half gram or something? As iv said im new to H sr has open that door for me to treat myself to eat sometimes now, iv only orderd 2 times.. Im not rich and can only afford about a litle over 100$ a month for btc. Unless i got something on the side going on, I get 300 10mg methadone and i only take 2 i thought about opening a vendor account to sell the rest since ppl make so much money here off pills you would normally pay 4 to 5 bucks for TOPS. I saw someone selling tramadol for god sakes, I have 2 full bottles of that shit they gave my dog for being old and having a hurt foot, soo if i can make 12 a pill on that im gonna open up a vendor account and let 2 90pill bottles go for 100 bucks each...LOL..But seriously, im gonna give the vendor PILL a try tomorrow no FE and he has #4 i think it may have said #3 cant remember, but still awsome price. Could someone please enlightn me on how you judge the MG you do? Like i see ppl saying they only do 10mg 50 mg 150mg etc, how are u judging that? Again im new just need help..thanks..
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: MaebyFunke on October 01, 2012, 02:34 pm
never have I ever seen so many people flame over 12$ f/real

Haha, since everyone is realizing that DB4D (who you probably are) is a scammer, now you are trying to pull the "its only $12, who cares losers?" card? What happened to "he is legit so GTFO haters?" Never mind the fact that many people had much more than $12 lost to this scam. Another interesting thing is that when I looked earlier, someone's feedback on DB4D's page said "this guy sent me an empty envelope" and there were a bunch of other bad reviews that disappeared now. Vendors have the option to hide feedback, right? All in all, as long as no one else orders from DB4D, his scam will be over. Just another lesson for everyone not to FE!
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: greatgreatgrandpa on October 01, 2012, 03:36 pm
New Correspondence with this thread's favorite douchenugget///


deathb4dishonor(96)    Your parcel went out today. We think that this is generous considering your previous message. We would appreciate it if you are able to take down our correspondence from the feedback, as we think our response was justified considering the hate filled message we received from you.

Thank you,
Raj    1 day    read
delete
deathb4dishonor(96)    Hello friend,

Thank you for changing your feedback. You can expect your order via USPS 1st class mail by mid next-week, most likely Thursday at the latest.

We appreciate your willingness to honor your agreement.

Very best,
Raj    2 days    read
delete

Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: mingusdew on October 01, 2012, 06:20 pm
Well I came to the forums to inquire about DBD's usual demeanor and efficiency where communications and shipping are concerned. Unfortunately the apparent rep does not bode well for my order arriving by the end of this week.

The timeline goes order placed on Friday, communication sent Sunday, and no response as of this afternoon. Very happy to have read these assessments, I appreciate the time you all have taken to provide feedback. If there is no response by this evening, I will proceed with a cancellation.

I am still relatively new to the road with several successful purchases under my belt, so my question is how long before I can cancel? It is still unlinked text for me.

-Mingus
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: mistervic on October 01, 2012, 08:53 pm
hey people, it took over a week but i got my 50mg sample today. so dont worry! some of us are getting orders. he seems backlogged and the dope was actually good. no lies. i retract my earlier statement and will not be changing my feedback. everyone just wait it out a lil longer.

mr v
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Tbear2012 on October 01, 2012, 09:54 pm
Well, I ordered on the 21st and thought today, sat, would be the farthest out it could possibly take... Im sure hoping my patience pays off.

it said on his pro he sent out the last of the backlogged orders today. our shit might have been in that so i'm guessing maybe wed at the latest... meh

Well I really hope so, I'm pretty much counting it as a pissed away $80. This is the fourth time he has told me he shipped my package.... every time saying that he just got out all the backlogged orders.... first time I was told the day after that my order was shipped, then that it would be monday, then tuesday, now monday (today). Getting close to 2 weeks and since I live damn near the middle of the US it pretty much takes 2 full business days to get mail from anywhere in the continental US. So he definitely hasn't shipped on any of the days hes told me so far. Anyways, let me know when you get yours since we're prob in the same boat. I paid for tracking so if he could send me any tracking info I would be at ease. If it was intercepted then I understand. If  he just cant tell the truth, then I'd love to start a mass complaint to SR about this vendor to get him booted. We shall see....
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Tbear2012 on October 01, 2012, 09:59 pm
PeopleB4Profits is a known scammer.... DeathB4Dishonor is on the verge of being called out.... anyone else find the similarity in names a little disturbing?

...... Just saying...... Lets all hope they are no relation.

 :o
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: zoedesschaneult on October 01, 2012, 10:26 pm
hey MaeybFunke is there anybody left on this forum you haven't accused of being raj? seems like its just you in a world of infinite Raj's all working from different IPs like some twilight zone shit

btw thats my dog's name




if ya'll would've played your cards right you could be sitting on 3 times what your original order was...... just sayin
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on October 01, 2012, 10:39 pm
Well, I ordered on the 21st and thought today, sat, would be the farthest out it could possibly take... Im sure hoping my patience pays off.

it said on his pro he sent out the last of the backlogged orders today. our shit might have been in that so i'm guessing maybe wed at the latest... meh

Well I really hope so, I'm pretty much counting it as a pissed away $80. This is the fourth time he has told me he shipped my package.... every time saying that he just got out all the backlogged orders.... first time I was told the day after that my order was shipped, then that it would be monday, then tuesday, now monday (today). Getting close to 2 weeks and since I live damn near the middle of the US it pretty much takes 2 full business days to get mail from anywhere in the continental US. So he definitely hasn't shipped on any of the days hes told me so far. Anyways, let me know when you get yours since we're prob in the same boat. I paid for tracking so if he could send me any tracking info I would be at ease. If it was intercepted then I understand. If  he just cant tell the truth, then I'd love to start a mass complaint to SR about this vendor to get him booted. We shall see....

yeah dude i started blowing his shit up asking for SOMETHING but i'm calling this a loss and just forget about it (i spent a little less than you but it's still money gone). ill hit you up if anything comes. if what he says is true then it should be here by wed/thur (which is kinda bullshit like i said since people who placed their orders way way after i did have received theirs and or received communication.
i'm not at all saying db4d is a piece of shit i'm still in the boat that he just got overwhelmed by orders but this certainly does make it look sketchy to say the least. i will be sure to hit you up if anything turns up. 

@zoe

it was me. i am the deathb4dishonour in the op  8)

this is kinda like the 'i am spartacus' bullshit except more "you am spartacus"
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on October 02, 2012, 01:29 am

don't go that far dude. it's not worth it lol. its more just frustrating. i still have faith and i'm not at all trashing him nor encouraging people to do so. i'm lucky since i'm one of the ones who isn't like fiending out and in detox or whatever. i mean it really is like whatever at this point. i'm still holding out but i'm not holding my breath so to say.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: splitspades370 on October 02, 2012, 03:48 am
well, i like may of you was dumb enough to FE and was pissed about all this bullshit, I bought a gram of DB4D's coke, but, even though it took 2 weeks, it actually came today, decent quality, but not as good as other i've had on SR, if you're gonna buy coke for a price like this, trust me save your money, SuperTrip's flake, and Wright's washed were much better, and cheaper, idk if i'm just lucky to have gotten mine or if Raj really was just delaying, just happy I received it, but will never use him again
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: asdfsquared on October 02, 2012, 03:52 am
Seriously guys, he kept us guessing at first. At this point, though, maybe 1 out of every 10 samples ordered has come in. If that. He's no longer overwhelmed and delayed. No, now he's full blown piece of shit scammer.

Shit isn't coming. Maybe in the beginning it felt like he was buying product after people FE'd but even then more people would have it by now. Hes a scammer. It's really not even a question anymore. Only reason ANYONE has samples is to keep people on the hook.

Why is this even being debated?
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: dopelimat on October 02, 2012, 04:20 am
this vendor is legit.  dont worry about it, hes totally ok.  i was on here worried w yal too last week and 2 days later my order and then some showed up.  hes legit
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on October 02, 2012, 07:37 am
well it sure would of been nice when he sent my stuff to hav thrown in a xtra 50mg bag aafter all the FE money he got...Iv fooundd a new guy,seems great goeod communication and very willing to work with u if ur a few cents short, i will give out name and how good it is once it arrives, its BTH by the way, iv never had that yet, looking forward to slamming, little over .3 for 60bucks....one guy named skipyjiffy is offering .350 but he wants FE, i might not have the stats but i dont have the money to gamble and loose eaither, besides a SR member told me not to mess with him
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Thwasa on October 02, 2012, 03:00 pm
Hello guys, just thought I'd come back and post an update on D4B's heroin.
I had ordered the 50MG sample, and it had come last Wednesday.
I don't have much of an opiate tolerance, so take what I say with a grain of salt:
I tried 10MG first Intravenously, a nice small rush, lasted about 2 hours. Wasn't satisfied with that.
Shot the rest after I started sobering up, phenomenal rush, very clean feeling, and provided blissfulness and nodding for hours.
The heroin cooked up clean, only noticed a few specks of particles after filtering.
It was definitely cleaner and better then some of the dope I can get in my area.
Thank you!
I will not be ordering again, it was a headache for me thinking I got scammed in the beginning, and the long wait just killed it for me.
I guess I tend to get fiendish/paranoid once I place an order in for drugs. So that's my bad, but if his business practices change a little bit, I will definitely place an order.
Thwasa
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: asdfsquared on October 02, 2012, 05:21 pm
Anyone from earlier in the thread received product? Not random likely-fake newbies?
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: ErgoProxy on October 02, 2012, 06:08 pm
How long has this person been a vendor when requesting FE? Because if anyone FE's for a new vendor, I hate to say it, shouldnt complain about being stiffed. Im not saying anyone is doing this, but I know many who have... not reading the rules of the site you're using. Noob vendors cannot, I repeat cannot, ask for FE.


Also, FEing is a noob move. Well, I mean I cant really say much about that because I send payment transfers to someone for BTC, which leaves me unprotected. But the vendor I use is an outstanding human being, period. I have sent this person over ฿181. Not much too most perhaps, but to me it is. Also... lol..... not sure how that is relevant. Just sayin' dont be a noob, read the rules before you use something such as SR. And any questions, want immediate answers? Or nearly... send an inquiry to staff. Those people work very hard , and are VERY helpful.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: zoedesschaneult on October 02, 2012, 06:51 pm
most people on here are random fake newbies, especially the ones that are buying 50mg fake newbie sample bags

is there anybody out there who has still NOT RECEIVED their order from DB4D? I think we should put this to rest..... he ain't a scammer

Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: dirtRacer on October 02, 2012, 08:27 pm
I haven't gotten my shit yet, ordered like 14 or 15 days ago, and it wasn't just sample bags.  I changed my feedback to 1/5 on both orders and Raj got back to me in less than a day saying he lost my order  :o He requested new address info and wanted to know what I'd ordered, I told him and he assured me that my shipment was going out this past Saturday...I guess we'll see if it shows up...but yeah, I'd say he's definitely NOT a scammer, just a bit disorganized/unprepared.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on October 02, 2012, 10:41 pm
most people on here are random fake newbies, especially the ones that are buying 50mg fake newbie sample bags

is there anybody out there who has still NOT RECEIVED their order from DB4D? I think we should put this to rest..... he ain't a scammer


i still haven't received my 250 mg bag and tomorrow is going to be two weeks.
at this point i'm just calling it a loss i guess. we
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on October 02, 2012, 10:52 pm
ik he's not reading these threads anymore but feedback has been changed and will be changed back to 5/5 if contacted by seller/package is received/ or if not sent a refund is given.

will obv update if anything comes up.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Chaser838 on October 03, 2012, 04:02 am
GET THIS SHIT!

So 12 days ago I ordered 3 samples from DB4DH and eventually after enough complaining on my part I received a refund. 

Then there is today (12 days after - I had chosen the slowest shipping method),  In my mailbox is 3 of the samples I ordered and also got REFUNDED FOR!!! So I guess I cant be mad at DB4DH at this point. 

He is so busy he cant keep track.  I offered to pay for the goods but have not heard anything. That offer will only be on the table once. 

Moral of the story... REPLY TO YOUR MESSAGES AND KEEP TRACK OF YOUR CLIENTELE!!! WINNER = ME!!!

I hope this brings a smile to some of you dealing with this vender.

- Chaser838
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: TerrorByte on October 03, 2012, 04:54 pm
most people on here are random fake newbies, especially the ones that are buying 50mg fake newbie sample bags

is there anybody out there who has still NOT RECEIVED their order from DB4D? I think we should put this to rest..... he ain't a scammer

Haven't even received a message, much less my order. Dude wrote 7 days ago saying it would ship this last weekend, which is ridiculous when you are paying for priority shipping, and nothing has changed on my order status either. Never had the option to finalize, he wrote saying he wasn't requiring it anymore. Going to cancel my order if I don't hear from him today.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: dirtRacer on October 03, 2012, 05:30 pm
Seems like the only way to get in touch w/ Raj is to switch your feedback to 1/5, lol, that's what I've been doing instead of bothering to PM him, he gets back to me in less than a day when I switch the feedback.  Although, that's not an option for you seeing as you didn't FE.  I will say this, I STILL don't think he's a straight up thief...hopefully, lol.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: TerrorByte on October 03, 2012, 05:57 pm
Yea sucks, I got no way to "prompt" a reply, and I am sure even if I cancel it will tie up my funds ...meh
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: TerrorByte on October 03, 2012, 11:42 pm
yippy, new form letter response. playing along for now, but if he doesn't do what he says, he's going on blast.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: electriccrazyman on October 03, 2012, 11:54 pm
My small order arrived. I don't FE but figured I could risk a few bucks to see if the product matched the hype. I haven't tried yet but will update when I do.

Packaging was good but it wasn't vacuum sealed - no odor though. All in all, ok. Communications were good, etc. I would not FE again for a slightly larger order. Hopefully he's adjusting his policy at least for established buyers.
The quality was pretty good. Even a 10th cooked up nicely and tasted sweet. I wouldn't FE again, and all the drama seems like way too much, but the product was better than most I've seen for quite a while.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: billhickslives on October 04, 2012, 12:21 am
I bought Amphetamine Sulphate capsules from Db4D a while back and they came in really quickly and with a significant number of extras.  If I had to bet, I'd put money on "took on more new customers than he could handle" long before I'd put it on "is stealing".  That said, the right thing to do for him (it seems to me, but it's his business so he can do whatever he wants) would be to shutter the storefront for a couple days until he gets organized and gets his backlog taken care of.  Based on my experience and the others who've had excellent experiences with him, I think he's operating in good faith.  However, if he keeps losing orders and fucking around, he's going to ruin his reputation as a seller and no one will want to deal with him.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: metta on October 04, 2012, 12:49 am
The quality was pretty good. Even a 10th cooked up nicely and tasted sweet. I wouldn't FE again, and all the drama seems like way too much, but the product was better than most I've seen for quite a while.

I agree, I thought it was very good. I have a PGP compatibility issue with them that they acknowledge is a problem, but they haven't done anything about it last I checked. Until they do, and until they can provide reliable delivery estimates, I have to take a pass.

They sent me a free replacement for an order from 3 weeks ago, and I was very surprised by the quality, way better than the first order which I had rated 4/5. Additionally, they reached out to me offering the replacement based on comments I had made on the coke vendor's thread. I believe if one uses harsh techniques in their approach with them, the response can be less than satisfactory. I'm not condoning this behavior, however, I was pleasant but truthful in my posts, so they took care of me with little delay.

I find it ironic that a vendor who treated me well—beyond what is typically done in such circumstances—is viewed as a potential scammer. I understand if I had been caught up in the period where shipments weren't happening that I would be frustrated and might have resorted to an unpleasant exchange, but from my perspective as a satisfied customer, it's odd in a way to read this thread. I hope everybody's situation was resolved to their satisfaction.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: TerrorByte on October 04, 2012, 01:35 am
If I had to bet, I'd put money on "took on more new customers than he could handle" long before I'd put it on "is stealing".  That said, the right thing to do for him (it seems to me, but it's his business so he can do whatever he wants) would be to shutter the storefront for a couple days until he gets organized and gets his backlog taken care of.

This is what I take from it all, he added a popular product, and a size anyone can afford, so he just got too swamped, but he is also using people's FE'ed money to re'up, to take care of them, which is kind of fucked up, shouldn't be selling a product he doesn't have on hand. I will say that the way he is handling this current batch of orders is messed up and made me think hard about sticking with him, or canceling. Basically is you have an unfilled order at the moment, you can FE, and he is going to re'up, and then ship the FE'ed orders from that on the weekend, if you don't FE he's going to ship you after the flip, or what's left after FE'ed orders middle of next week. So essentially holding your money, and order hostage, FE and get it shipped on Sat, or don't FE, and it might go out middle of next week, kind of fucked. Or you can cancel, but once order status has changed to "In Transit" you have to wait for a refund, which considering how long he takes to get orders out and respond to PM could tie it up for a minute. If he hadn't changed my order status to In transit before sending me a response I was going to cancel because that's just a fucked up way to do your customers, but since he finally changed it, and now it was FE and get it sooner (supposedly) or don't FE and maybe get it by NEXT weekend, I went ahead and FE'ed. If it comes Mon-Wed, it's all good, he'll get proper feedback, if not, well, that will be annoying, and so will I.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: technopium on October 04, 2012, 03:28 am
For what it is worth, I posted early on in this thread.  I did get my sample within the past couple days.  It did come after I changed my feedback to 1/5 because I had given up on the deal as I had placed the order so long ago.  Was happy that it arrived, as the quality seems to be very good.  I have a bit of a tolerance and was only able to test the product (crushed beige powder), but it does not burn and gets the job done.  Good luck to everyone.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: dirtRacer on October 04, 2012, 08:05 pm
I ordered almost 3 full weeks ago...I've STILL got fucking nothing.  I ordered a fair amount of product, not just a sample size.  I agree with most, he's NOT a thief, he's just slow/disorganized/underfunded/etc.

That being said, my feedback stays at 1/5 on both orders until I see some product, it's fucking ridiculous already.  Raj, if you bother reading this thread (which I doubt you do), GET YOUR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER.   >:(
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on October 04, 2012, 08:29 pm
i'm still not calling him a scammer or a thief or whatever and still on the 'he got fucking swamped' bandwagon but whatever
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Tbear2012 on October 04, 2012, 10:56 pm
i'm still not calling him a scammer or a thief or whatever and still on the 'he got fucking swamped' bandwagon but whatever

@apples.... Still nada   in the mail.

Im changing my rating to 1 and calling him out as a selective scammer. I bought more than a sample 2 weeks ago and havent had so much as a reply to any of my several messages, just the mass messages written on his vendor page.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: yetiboom on October 05, 2012, 12:53 am
i ordered one sample just to try out ,it was "in transit" on the 24th i think and i was patient. finally asked if he had a dcn # just to see whats up but i have not gotten a response. Luckily I didnt FE because ive gotten fucked twice before doing that and i will not FE ever again. So tonight it went into resolution.not a big deal for one sample but this order is giving me the same bullshit im getting from another vendor that wants my btc even though the trac # clearly shows it hasnt left the original sort facility nowhere near me. Proves i didnt receive but he " did his part " by mailing it out. And expects me to give BTC . Fuck that . So now that is in resolution too. Anybody ever have a vendor try that shit with you ?
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on October 05, 2012, 05:57 am
i'm still not calling him a scammer or a thief or whatever and still on the 'he got fucking swamped' bandwagon but whatever

@apples.... Still nada   in the mail.

Im changing my rating to 1 and calling him out as a selective scammer. I bought more than a sample 2 weeks ago and havent had so much as a reply to any of my several messages, just the mass messages written on his vendor page.

yeah dude still nothing at all. no messages or anything. we
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on October 05, 2012, 06:06 am
i just got a message from raj saying something to the effect of the last orders were dropped off after hours on monday  so the last shit should be coming in friday or saturday.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on October 05, 2012, 03:28 pm
I would not order from RAJ DB4D until he makes right with everyone, i was also a lucky one an i got 2 of my orders, bought 1 sample, wasnt happy, did.125 and it did much of nothing, I also told him he did not have #3 H so thats when he changed to #4 ..So he sent me a free reship, only 50mg but it was a hella lotta diffrence between the first and 2nd order..I just orderd tuesday night from the new vendor purist, he has samples of BTH and he is great in communication and he even at the time i didnt have enuff for the shipping he was gonna send me 3bags free shipping, well i ended up just buying 2 bags and paying for shipping i told him even though he is knew he should have to loose any money, so he said well bro i threw in xtra so u got more than  .2 for 50bucks and should be there friday or saturday at latest, it was marked in transit tuesday night, he is 4hrs time diffrence behind me and he said hes mail place stays open til 8 he took my order along with a few other and droped off that night, probley didnt start coming my way til wensday, im hoping it shows up today if not i expect tomorrow...Go check out "PUREST" GREAT GUY EVERYONE!!! hes been a member 5 or 6 days  and has made 12 transactions and every review is great!!! he seems to have strong strong stuff.  Get your money baack from db4d AND TRY PUREST
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: dirtRacer on October 05, 2012, 04:17 pm
Here's what he told me 2 weeks ago (after I switched to a 1/5 on both orders, and no, they weren't for samples, it was a decent sized order)

"Hello friend,

Your orders are shipping out in one Priority mail flat rate envelope today, which should arrive by Wednesday of next week at the latest. We are including additional product to compensate for the inconvenience you have experienced.

Thank you for your patience and understanding in this matter!

Very best,
Raj"

Ok, so wednesday rolls around and still nothing...today is FRIDAY....NOTHING.  So i switch to a 1/5 feedback on both orders again (paging Dr. Raj) and he sends me this:

"Hello friend,

We are reshipping your order this Saturday, and we will provide a tracking number for confirmation of the USPS Priority delivery. We apologize for the inconvenience and we will include extra product to compensate for the delay.

Thank you for your patience in this matter!

Very best,
Raj"

Reshipping...bullshit.  It's been about 18 days...NOTHING
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on October 05, 2012, 07:07 pm
in one way i'm kind of lucky i have gotten the barrage of like 'it's been sent' messages. this is pretty much the first communication i got aside from the mass msgs that were sent out on and off for the past week.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Tbear2012 on October 05, 2012, 08:34 pm
I have still not received a single message since placing my order 2 weeks ago, aside from the mass messages. I even changed feedbacks to 1 and called him  out as a possible selective scammer, still nothing. I have hopes that I'm wrong, but its just ridiculous at this point.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Sunnysideup27 on October 05, 2012, 10:46 pm
Well, I finally got a note from RAJ 15 days later.  That he is reshipping, now I'm not sure he is going to send the generic adderall, or What??  He said they were shipping Today, Friday.  I will keep you posted.....I also went back and changed my ratings ....

He was my second vendor......I know a few  things...now, .maybe two, lol!

Good luck Peeps!!
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on October 07, 2012, 01:36 am
Go to PUREST! super fast! raj's stuff was ok, but no way worth all the BS people have to go through .
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Tbear2012 on October 09, 2012, 03:06 am
Now he is saying wed or thurs to us...... how many times will this date change?!? His profile shows so many good reviews, how is he pulling this off?!?!?!
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on October 09, 2012, 04:13 am
today was a holiday so... wed is the latest if he sent it last wed (5 days).
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Raj on October 09, 2012, 06:11 am
Hello friends,

We are amazed to see how this thread has grown. We understand there are still a few customers who have waited an inordinate amount of time for their orders, and in these cases we have included additional product.

At this point every order is either in transit or has been refunded. We are not current with our message queue but we have been in touch with the customers who have experienced the most severe delays.

We are as frustrated as our most irate customers by our own lack of capacity to keep pace with order growth. We have adapted as a result. We have posted an update on all the delayed 1st class orders.

We would prefer to respond via SR messaging but if we have missed your order and also not provided any communication feel free to PM this account. We have not read this thread.

We apologize for the lack of communication in many cases and also the extensive delays. Please understand that none of this was an account of bad intent on our part.

Thank you friends, for your patience and willingness to withhold judgement until the rest of our outstanding orders arrive this week!



Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Tbear2012 on October 10, 2012, 05:35 pm
well he got in touch with me and said it would go out today... yet another promise I'll be interested to see if it comes true. If it is true it shouldn't be here any later than friday given where Im at in the US. I sure hope this is the real deal. Either he keeps stringing me along or he legitimately got insanely out of control and lost organization. I see so many people that ordered 2 weeks after me saying they have their order so its WAY frustrating. I hope the additional product is substantial for those of us that had to wait THREE WEEKS for a lil yayo or whatever your fancy. Glad I quit the H or Id be sick as shit right now. I feel bad for people in that situation....

anyways, all of us that have been waiting forever let me know when/if it comes in so we can have more confidence that he isn't scamming...
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: TerrorByte on October 10, 2012, 07:09 pm
Glad I quit the H or Id be sick as shit right now. I feel bad for people in that situation...

Anyone that is counting on supplying their habit through the mail, be it here, on of the other markets, is out of their mind. For one, things like this happen, even straight up vendors packages can be slowed in transit. And the prices are pretty crazy. There's a couple that are decent, but I see them come and go as far as having ads up.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: anex45 on October 11, 2012, 04:30 am
Glad I quit the H or Id be sick as shit right now. I feel bad for people in that situation...

Anyone that is counting on supplying their habit through the mail, be it here, on of the other markets, is out of their mind. For one, things like this happen, even straight up vendors packages can be slowed in transit. And the prices are pretty crazy. There's a couple that are decent, but I see them come and go as far as having ads up.

Ain't that the truth! I'm fortunate enough to live near an area that has dope available everywhere and many corners to buy off of with amazingly good East Coast quality...but some days I don't feel like driving and risking arrest in the open air markets so I'll put in an Express order with one of my favorite vendors.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: Tbear2012 on October 13, 2012, 12:04 am
Yeah... I can just see taking the leap to try some new stuff and then run out of money thinking the stuff would be here...... thatd be aweful. Or if you move to a new area and havent met anyone and are close to out of supply.... just glad I don't have to go through it. Even though its probably a rare thing... just read someones comment about "hurry Raj, Im sick"


Anyways..... IT CAME TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOLY SHIT.
quality was OK, but I can get the same thing for an 1/8th of the price. I was hoping for something where .2 would rock my world.... just not so. Good though. 

Well he isnt a scammer, but he definately got in over his head.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on October 26, 2012, 08:13 pm
actually i still haven't received anything nor a message back from him requesting a refund yet. just saying.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: ghost3241 on October 28, 2012, 01:08 am
Placed an order on 10/19. It's been in processing since then. Sent several messages to him, with zero replies. Shit happens, life happens, I understand that, particularly with the commodities we're dealing in. Literally any indication of what might have happened or is happening would be more than enough. But the lack of communication is disturbing. It's a business. Saying you don't have the capacity to respond to messages is, at best, a smokescreen, and at worst, an indicator of an inability to handle the volume of traffic. Other orders seem to be going through fine, so I assume my situation is a one-off at this point. Clearly not a scammer, but more communication would do wonders for him and his customers alike.
Edit: This is now in transit, as of 10/28.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on November 07, 2012, 12:14 am
i just wanted to update everyone and tell them the order i placed 6 weeks ago arrived today. he is def legit and i like i said before i think the delay and my thing slipping through the cracks just had to do with him getting swamped.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: apples on November 07, 2012, 12:30 am
also quality isn't fire but it's definitely heroin. did 1 bag (50 mgs) to test and another 2 just now (IV). not nodding or anything but i definitely feel it so not bad for the price. i think there was a bit extra in each bag also.
Title: Re: ATTENTION TO DEATHB4DISHONOR99!!! COULD U GIVE ME A UPDATE?
Post by: anchientlib on May 11, 2013, 12:52 am
You aren't some vigilante, you aren't some Robin Hood figure, you are a sea slug. Scraping your feeding and sex organs in a mechanical motion against the very bottom of the earth where all the shit and trash and pollution resides in hopes that you will scrounge up nourishment for your pathetic, listless, purposeless existence.
fuck this vendor... I'm gonna get high on drugs that professionals send out.
ETA:



LOLOLOL I don't think they like you very much!!!!!

Libby