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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: BigPussy on August 30, 2013, 12:19 pm

Title: Improving Heroin #3 for snorting
Post by: BigPussy on August 30, 2013, 12:19 pm
I'm fairly new to heroin but believe that the salt is more effective for snorting than the base...

From chem class I remember that acid+base = salt+water. So if I had a bunch of heroin #3 could I just add some vinegar/citric acid then wait for the liquid to evaporate off and be left with a pile of salt that would be better for snorting?

Either way, it has to go up the nose. Smoking anything make me cough my lungs inside out and I'm terrified of needles  :'(
Title: Re: Improving Heroin #3 for snorting
Post by: cryngie on August 30, 2013, 01:32 pm
its alot harder then that it might work but will be nothing like #4. Dont use vinegar as citric acid is the go. Why not just buy #4 save yourself the hassel?
Title: Re: Improving Heroin #3 for snorting
Post by: LiquiFried on August 30, 2013, 01:49 pm
I was looking through the h listings and i'm a little confused about #3 vs #4.  I thought all h for export was #4... my source book on the shelf being McCoy's "Politics of H in SE Asia"... he says #3 is less than 10% ...the #3 i've seen on SR looks exactly like some things i've run across, both in the states and in UK.  My UK friends thought all they were getting was #3, but it was around 50-60%. It looked and smelled just like what we've had in the US @ times(70%-80%), only with more crap mixed in.  Anyone know if the #3 is actually #3 or is there some other naming convention i'm unaware of?  Thanx!

I'm sorry i'm off topic - my UK "#3" snorted just fine as long as it was absolutely crushed n powdered as fine as it would go.  A little bit of warm water chaser and it worked on the plane home just fine-- I usually just dip two fingers in warm water and send the drops up to wash it in.  They were smoking it - ugh!
Title: Re: Improving Heroin #3 for snorting
Post by: BigPussy on August 30, 2013, 01:57 pm
#3 would be a lot cheaper & easier for me to get hold of, hence the desire to make some DIY #4. As far as I was aware #3 is the base form, it needs acid adding to it to make it soluble - I guess that would make it cross the nasal membranes easier?

Any reason for avoiding vinegar? I gather it'll fuck your veins up but wouldn't have thought that would apply here?
Title: Re: Improving Heroin #3 for snorting
Post by: PK on August 30, 2013, 02:06 pm
Here's a way to snort it

Put it on aluminum foil, heat the bottom of the foil, stick a straw in your nose, take a deep breath
Title: Re: Improving Heroin #3 for snorting
Post by: LiquiFried on August 30, 2013, 02:19 pm
Hi PK, that was EXACTLY the UK Way for non-injectors.  Injectors mixed drops of the citric acid in so it wouldn't burn their veins.  BP, I am ransacking my bookshelf looking for my McCoy.... he has the "recipe" in one of his chapters, at least the one they were using in the SE Asia labs.  Grr maybe it's out on loan...   at any rate, I remember he said that the conversion from #3 to #4 was not very complex but VERY flammable -- something like dissolving it in ether, adding Something, and then using vacuum pressure to draw it off and leave nice fluffy white flakes.  Careful there!! You don't want to set the place on fire trying to get a little higher...  If you don't have it in yr hand yet, don't worry too much about it...either smoke it w/ the foil or crush it, snort it, n wash it back.  Either way you'll get the goodies IN.
Title: Re: Improving Heroin #3 for snorting
Post by: nigl on August 30, 2013, 02:20 pm
#3 would be a lot cheaper & easier for me to get hold of, hence the desire to make some DIY #4. As far as I was aware #3 is the base form, it needs acid adding to it to make it soluble - I guess that would make it cross the nasal membranes easier?

Any reason for avoiding vinegar? I gather it'll fuck your veins up but wouldn't have thought that would apply here?

Too many adulterants and stuff that only makes your H more dirty. Citric acid, fumaric acid will work fine but Muriatic acid (HCl) would work too and if you use HCl you don't have to worry about excess acid.
Just dissolve your heroin #3 in a diluted HCl solution and let the water evaporate. All the excess HCl will evaporate too and you will be left with Heroin Hydrochloride
Title: Re: Improving Heroin #3 for snorting
Post by: BigPussy on August 30, 2013, 03:41 pm
Thanks for the info guys. I guess there's only one way to know for sure so if one day I'm bored and well stocked I may well give it a go and will post back with the results...