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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: betaraybob on December 18, 2011, 06:43 pm

Title: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: betaraybob on December 18, 2011, 06:43 pm
A few quick questions to you vets and longtime SR members.  Who would you suggest I get from? What is a good amount for 2 people(both rookies)? Whats a good number to dose with? Thanks for your advice!
Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: wowzers on December 18, 2011, 07:53 pm
ooh, you're in for a treat  :D
Buy from any of the well rated vendors, DrAmsterdam is my current favourite as his MD is seriously pure but Aakoven, mitanox and a load more are good.
You want it to work properly but obviously don't want to get too fucked up. A really nice starter dose which I give to friends is 100mg, then at +90 min, take another 40mg. Don't redose before 90 min. Expect to come up at around the time you think 'I don't feel anything'.
Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: thisisatest on December 18, 2011, 09:49 pm
Funny I was just about to post the same thing... thinking of ringing in the new year with a bang!  I've had ecstasy pills before that were a good time but seemed to be a bit of a rollercoaster, many highs and lows in the 3-4 hour high.  Is this something I can expect from MDMA? 
Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: Bob Arctor on December 19, 2011, 12:16 am
Funny I was just about to post the same thing... thinking of ringing in the new year with a bang!  I've had ecstasy pills before that were a good time but seemed to be a bit of a rollercoaster, many highs and lows in the 3-4 hour high.  Is this something I can expect from MDMA?

must have been shitty pills:) you should expect 3-4 hours of feeling awesome, and few more hours of feeling great;)
Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: wowzers on December 19, 2011, 12:21 am
You'll definitely have rushes. Peaks with moments of absolute clarity is probably a better description than highs and lows. You find your own methods of enhancing the peaks. I personally love menthol roll up cigarettes  :D.
Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: betaraybob on December 20, 2011, 06:45 am
thanks for the advice :). i forgot to mention i have never done x before either. decided on dopeboy but if i really like it i might try the others too. i dont smoke anymore, is there any other tips to enhance the peaks?
Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: ClearlyLooking on December 22, 2011, 10:46 pm
betaraybob, definitely fast from all food for at least 6 hours before ingesting the MDMA. Take a 500-1000mg Vitamin C and possibly a 500-1000mg Magnesium supplement before you dose. I like to have meditative music in the background.

This is a good read on the therapeutic use of MDMA:
http://www.maps.org/research/mdma/revision.html

Keep hydrated during the journey. You would need no more than 150-175mg of any of the quality MDMA available on SR from the reputable vendors.

Namaste
Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: johnnyfried123 on December 22, 2011, 11:20 pm
I just know I'm gonna get flamed HARD for this... but here goes.

Go big. Nothing compares to the first time. I've taken doses from 100mg to 2 grams orally, and doses from 50mg to 300mg IV. Not to be a dick-shower, just giving some background and hopefully lending some validity to my point of view.

Sit down, decide you wanna go fucking nuts, put your nuts in one hand, and a straw in the other. Now go snort at least 200mg. Preferably 300. You'll never feel the first time again! Don't waste it on a moderate dose.

In case you're worried, it's not like LSD or mushrooms. You aren't gonna have a "bad trip" from MDMA. In fact you're going to love everyone, and everything. Also, this friend is gonna be your new best friend.

Have fun. Everyone else: Flame away. This isn't even a remotely dangerous dose.
Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: ClearlyLooking on December 23, 2011, 02:51 am
The preceding post is a good way to end up with some definite serotonin axon damage. This isn't a pissing contest.

Less is more with MDMA. There is a sweet spot. Let the medicine work it's magic.
Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: ClearlyLooking on December 23, 2011, 02:58 am
http://dancesafe.org/drug-information/ecstasy-slideshow

Decent read of how MDMA works.
Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: NeveWitch on December 23, 2011, 03:47 am
I'm not really a SR vet, but I have done MDMA and E a number of times and I've followed the major MDMA-related topics on the forums.

People seem to recommend DRamsterdam, mitanox, Ivory, and juergen2001, on both service and the quality of their MDMA, so I don't think you can go wrong with any of those guys. I personally haven't tried any MDMA from SR yet, but I do have 1g of Ivory's on me and 2g of juergen2001's coming in (hopefully soon!).

Dosages vary depending on MDMA quality, and I've seen recommendations usually run between 100mg and 150mg. Since you and your friend haven't done rolled before, 100mg-120mg should be more than enough, especially with the higher quality stuff offered on SR. You can take your starting dose of ~100mg-120mg, then follow it up with a booster that's 1/2 the amount of your starting dose (~50mg-60mg) between 1-1.5 hours later, right as you peak. If you do opt for the starter+booster, just take one booster dose and avoid the temptation to keep taking more and more. A lot of people who have tried redosing past the first booster dose is a waste, and only makes them feel speedy without the euphoria and other good stuff. Don't eat right before! An empty stomach is ideal, so you should fast 4-6 hours before you drop. Also avoid alcohol (mixing uppers and downers is never a good idea). You can pop it in a gelcap, mix it in a sports drink, or snort it, but I prefer gelcaps just for simplicity and it's easier to take with you. You should also probably look into 5-HTP supplements for afterwards, as that helps in restoring your serotonin depletion and helps you bounce back faster.

Be with some good friends, and MDMA will take care of the rest. Clubbing and dancing is so, so fun, but I've chilled out in the company of a few close friends in more private settings, also with good results. Other than that, enjoy yourself! Stay safe!
Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: SmCoop on December 23, 2011, 02:51 pm
Nothing beats that first roll.  ;D

Mostly good advice here.  Just remember that attitude and surroundings play a big part in your experience.  My SO and our friends prefer a cozy couch at an after-hours club and just people watch.  It's good fun!

Alcohol is generally a no-no, but I usually have 1-2 before I start my roll just to relax a little.  After that, it's a LOT of water.

Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: betaraybob on December 23, 2011, 05:56 pm
Thank you all for the informative replies. i hear what you're saying johnnyfried123, i like to do things hard like that too sometimes but honestly i think im gonna try 100 to start and then a 50 redose when i need it. Im really excited for it! Plan on doing it New Years at a bar. I'll let you all know how it went.

PS: I also have a little yay and some ocs, should i stay the hell away from that while rolling? Thanks again everybody!
Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: NeveWitch on December 23, 2011, 09:54 pm
If it's your first time rolling, I'd say to just skip out on using anything else, and just bask in pure MDMA euphoria. :]

Also, it's important to time your redose, as redosing too late tends to not do anything for most people. 1-1.5 hours after the initial dose is usually when your roll peaks, and taking a booster at that point is supposed to extend your peak.
Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: Locrian on December 23, 2011, 10:40 pm
I've heard a lot of people say "less is more," but I dunno what that means exactly.  I think less is less, more is more, but only just right is just right. 

Now, how much is just right depends on where you'll be, who you'll be with, and what you'll be doing.  If you're going to be out in public with normal/straight people, you'll want to moderate your dosage to the point where you can walk and talk without much problem.  I'd say 100mg would be pretty well on point for a first time.  You don't want to cause a scene and all that.  However, if you're just going to be with a few friends in private, I say GO FOR IT.  I'll never advise anyone to snort molly, but I would definitely take a good 200mg off the top, throw on some good tunes, and pick a comfy spot to roll my face off.  Then another 100-200 after 45 minutes or so.  DEFINITELY resist the urge to keep dosing up after that, because you're just throwing it down the drain.  It's a tough urge to fight, I know. : /
Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: NeveWitch on December 23, 2011, 11:55 pm
I've heard a lot of people say "less is more," but I dunno what that means exactly.  I think less is less, more is more, but only just right is just right.

I guess what a lot of people mean is that with MDMA, there's a sweet spot for dosing, where taking more and more and more doesn't necessarily mean your experience will feel better or last longer. But you're right about the urge to take more doses. At some point, you're just throwing MDMA down the drain for very little (if any) reward. Think bell curves! Diminishing returns!
Title: Re: Popping MDMA cherry
Post by: Locrian on December 24, 2011, 04:13 pm
That's why I try to always have a few benzos to throw the brakes on when it's over.  I have a pretty tough time overcoming that urge to take more molly, especially if I'm out with people who are still partying.