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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: shutdem on August 04, 2012, 02:21 am
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yeah,
had it sent from a vendor i often use. It was supposed to come with no signature the other day to a friends apartment. They left a card, That says need signature. Also has the box checked that person or agent must be present at delivery? So this sucks. He said because of using tracking(over seas) this time even tho he did not ask for signature confirmation when it was sent. He tells me That sometimes they require it in the us here. When sent parcel with tracking? which. To be honest i did have someone sign long before but it was for a letter that had small small amount(same vendor and it is true a letter sized with tracking needs signature, but this was not supposed to). AT a different address. So, I am worried. Nervous and do not want to ask my friend to get himself in any trouble or me!. I mean all the tracking is right on. I mean no long stops, in and out of customs in 2days one a weekend. So ya i want to hear some advice. I mean its money not wanted to be wasted!. At the same time i do not know. The tracking even said notice left and the time was on and it came with all his mail???? HE is nervous going to get it at post office because the police station is 2 blocks down on the same rd as the post office its at? I mean the vendor said it has happened to him before when sent to a dif customer in the us. but i dont know what to think. All i read is to never sign..... but my one family member told me i am just paranoid? idk what to think, I am asking all of my trusted community!
anyone and everyone need your input!
thank you all in advance for any info thank you again
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Thanks for the input,
yeah i do not think they would wait around but at the same time the police station is not even a half mile down the rd. That the only thing that makes me nervous. Also its not any powder its tabs. I mean its good packing he is decent at that. I just always hear all over Never sign. Plus it be my friend that has to pick it up, I hope all will be alright but i am worried! Anyone else got a opinion on this?
any vets?
anyone
thank you in advance
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I would say trust your gut. Money lost is easily re earned, time lost is gone forever.
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long hair.... and everyone
Thank you that is exactly how i feel. I mean you cant get time back that is why i am worried, I mean it is my friend that would go but not to many people are tharough like they used to be. I know be people that done years because a snitch was scared to do any time you know.
My gut is in the middle bro. I mean im not getting a bad feeling all the tracking looks perfect. Only thing that had me doubting is when he got that card and it said have to sign. After all we talk about here everyone usually says NEVER SIGN.>>>
So anyone had similar situation? i Mean i keep my computer clean. So, i just wanted some opinions at the end of the day i have to make the call. but anyone else i appreciate your thoughts! also may help somone in the future. This is what we are here for to share knowledge! anything is appreciated
we got to stick together
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If it's a "personal use" amount of product you'll probably be fine- I don't think cops will wait around at the post office waiting for you to pick up your gram of whatever, and I have never heard of the post office calling the police, which makes sense because how are some minimum wage postal employees expected to detain you until they come? :P
My advice? Go in, be confident and act cool. IF the worst happens (and I seriously doubt this, unless the vendor's packaging is awful) don't talk, just ask for your lawyer, they can't prove you ordered the package unless they have your SR info.
Side note: this question is more suited for the "Shipping" subforum, not the "Rumor Mill" ;)
This is good advice. I also agree with DjSmiles. I've had to go to the post office and sign for a package many, many times. And Cops are not going to be waiting there all day waiting for you to show up and pick up a package. Dont sweat it, just go down and pick up your goodies.
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I hear you the only thing is the police station is like right down the street. I mean one call and small town all 8 of the cops we have would be there. nothing better to do. So you saying this situation with tracking looking normal and did not stay in customs long all is good? I mean i like to hear its good trust me! i just like to hear all the diff peoples situations i can. Before i make my decision, I am sure you all can agree with that!
So lets hope it all works out.
If anyone in the community has any more info, input, similar situation anything it helps me and other members who may go threw this situation and it helps me to better decide!
thank you all in advance and for those who already gave info
thank you hope to hear more
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More than likely there is no problem at all. What happens to the package if it is not picked up? Would that be more suspicious? Would it be opened and have the address on the discovered package? If there is a problem, it seems not getting the package will not make that problem go away but just cause a permanent paranoia, no further use of address, and who knows when raid.
If it was me, I would want them to tip their hand on my terms. Have a spotter at the police station, outside the posty, etc. Have the friend with a verified working cell phone go in. Everyone have the number on speed dial, if shit looks off then call. "I'm sorry sir but that address/country/address does not seem right, I have not ordered anything." Obviously the house (Also numbers on cell's houses) with the address should look like a preschool for DEA agent kids. The signer should take a beta blocker (low dose and test before, not for someone with a heart condition or history of low blood pressure, passing out, or especially ASTHMA) before, which will keep their heart rate at 60-80 even if shit hits the fan.
No I haven't been in this situation :-X
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Damn caffeine me you got that shit down!
that is some smart thinking! I just need to have right people to help if that is how to go about it!
Well thank you. Though not in the similar situation that sounds like a very smart way of going about it!
If anyone else has had to do this and had the experiance let me know and i appreciate everything!
you all are the best!
knowledge is power and you all are very helpful. If anyone can add its appreciated, I was hoping for someone who was in a similar situation or know of some one who was. That way know off hand. Well any comments help
Thank you all in advance and those of you who have written, With the police station being so close is the only shitty thing. By the time they pull up i guess if they get a text to call it off then!? but yes you are right if not gotten that will be opened and bad! very bad!
thank you all hope to hear more i love this community!
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Also, do not open the package in an unsecured place if possible, maybe immediately cover in a tinfoil lined bag/backpack/case/etc so they can't track. If you want to know for sure and are prepared for a raid, interrogation, and not saying a word for a day or so then you could take it to the house that has the address. If they put some kind of device in it, then soon after you completely wrap up the package in tinfoil they should be busting in........and yes, it will be odd to have an UNOPENED package in tinfoil, but being open is like being pregnant. I am no lawyer, but there still seems to be some level of "reasonable doubt" left.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/332e6b7861 probably too late, but 20mg should do the trick (40 for a lot of stress)
Easy drug to find, just check old people you know or people with high blood pressure. Tell your doc you need it for public speaking.
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Caffeine me. I am also going to have them right return to sender, That once they noticed who it was for and so on that. They realized it was not expected. So we will not even open if for a couple days if we do get it! I mean i think if they are going to come it will be in the post office but of course may raid the home. It is 90 oxi so i mean its not something that is not like a little bit. but i mean i have had double that sent and had someone sign but it was known if i wanted tracking on a padded envelope it must have signature, This one was supposed to be no signature at all. but again this did happen to someone i know with a overseas vendor, since had tracking somewhere along the way required signature. So i mean the tinfoil thing is good but at the same time dont you think it would look shady, because they are going to know who just signed and go there if that was whats going down and if they did not already at the post office. So, i think maybe right real big RETURN TO SENDER! AND PUT ON TABLE BY DOOR. LIKE NOTHING, I mean if he acts like its nothing and its in someone else who lives theres name. Soooo this also, i think he could say hey i had to drop a few letters and figured id pick it up for him, Also, he is not going to sign the card or anything until they bring it up to counter.. one thing tho it says on card wait atleast 2days for redeliver? So i doubt they will try and deliver it tomorrow? i mean that would be kind of skectchy? dont you think, i mean when i get one of those slips i do not see another for a week, So i am thinking maybe monday would be best? well caffeine me and everyone keep all you can coming your really got some amazing ideas. I mean you pick up a pack for someone who lives with you. No one there uses drugs! so house is clean no doubt! they dont even own a computer! So, also never have i used this address and neither have they, So, let me know what you think of my ideas? and any more input caffeine me and everyone else reading!
let meknow thanks the best community!
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caffeine me so what do you think? or anyone
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shutdem, listen to my very closely. If this is cannabis or MDMA, if it has been more than five days, then the packaging is NOT secure. Even if it is triple-bagged. If it has been ONE day, if it is MDMA. Reference: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=33755.0
That having been said... don't trust! If it is a small amount, you can afford to lose it. If it is a large amount, you can't afford the time.
Even if it is something else, you really should not fucking trust this. Never sign. NEVER. And if you weren't expecting to have to sign, DO NOT FUCKING SIGN.
I have 500+ posts and 30+ karma. I'm pretty sure you can trust my opinion.
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Be careful, don't open it right after receiving, don't left your fingerprints on it (cover fingers with wax to not raise suspicion coming to the post office in gloves). Also ask friend to come with you and be lookout.
In some countries contraband laws are strict, and even low dosage that is considered for personal use can cause you serious problems.
Sometimes signature is really needed by the rules of your post office, and me myself received quite a few packages that required signature and coming to the post office with my ID documents.
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Signing the package means you merely acknowledge receiving the package. It does not mean you, who sign, know what is inside the package. Furthermore, there is no proof of any transaction.
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BlarghRawr AND ALL OTHERS
hey i know i watched my brother loose 6 years of his life because he resisted arrest in his home. the cops tried to mase him and the ignorant guys mased his 3 month old and pushed his girl back and the baby hit its head bad! so he snapped broke a cops collar bone. Fibula all that good shit. WE have no drug users in my fam. This to be honest if for friends of my family, they helped my grandparent and paid for his funeral. they stuck together. So when they made it a law that you have to see pain management, Well they all dont have insurance. all fighting disability... THey are like my family. one of them is going to get it, I got a look out. for them they cant afford to get chemotherapy, and pay pain management not to mention afford rent..bills... ext. and all the shit in the us is cut done. its like a eu oxy is better than us and i lost my connect and all us vendors are fucking rediculous!
Anyway these people were there when he died in my arms of lung cancer and never smoked a day! so they helped up and before he passed, i had a guy in florida he owned a pill mill. i only say this not because they are all gone. unless you know where any are now!lol anyway he was close he sent me oxy80's got $15 to 20, roxi 30 for 7a and opana 40 for 10$. then all them assholes crying in fl fucked it up! and i make NO MONEY. I just find them what they need extra on the side to help with their pain, that is why i am not going to sign! if we decide too.
but to be honest BR its not mdma or anthing is pain meds. low dosed but good price for them and no $300 pain dr fee! so Also i did have one come from him i had some friend sign that was supposed to not be signature. And all was well. So. we will see. I appreciate you all! and
hauau
i will never touch the pack in fact they will put it up for days before opening it with return 2 sender. and a clean house! so i got mixed emotions and the last one i signed for personally that wasnt supposed to need it was double this and stronger meds! and all was well, Well i had someone go in and sign for me lol but still i mean he is not going to sign the notice, just go there and see if the box looks normal, i will have 2 look outs if we do it one at police station and one out front of the post office, if the fuzz pulls up he says wait this is not from someone i know, i do not want to except this before the fuz is in the door and we got a word picked out. if bad. so he know. now this is thought threw if i mean if we do it! but my thing is, when i went from diff addy it was double the order and double strength and i had to sign and wasnt supposed to. and all was well.
I just mean its addressed to someone he lives with. he is going to mail a few letters and say hey i figured id pick this up for the room mate no idea what it is...... without signing the card left until he sees box in tact and no text before that, if the cops pull up, its a small town, i know all the cops not to mention if a shady guy in a suite just happens to pull up and fast same thing, if we decide this is the think, i dont know! they have lost like 9 grand in the last month and i feel responisble! not getting tracking on last! to a diff addy diff city, but still. it didnt show! So, i feel it may be ok? if anyone else feels different or has been down this road, let me know! or not and knows good advice i fucking need it! i am just trying to help some sick people man!
leech thank you. and any more info to go with that, like proof? or a situation you or a fellow sr user was in?
asll appreciated i need relief! I dont know you tell me
anyone thoughts, ideas, recommendations, or anyone whos been threw this
let the community know!
please and thank you
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i know last post was long but anyone else with any advice
thank you in advance!
i appreciate it alot all of you
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Shutdem, you can bet pretty much safely that need to signature is caused by some fast delivery with tracking that requires confirmation. But there is no way to know for sure. If i'd be you, i'd just go and take this damn package. Many vendors practice including documents that state this merchandise probably doesn't belong to you (hope i'm not breaking rules about packaging?). If this package was sent from the same country you are in, chances that customs checked it are pretty low. Also there would be hard to prove that you ordered it. If your PC is encrypted chances are even lower. If you're not living in country like Russia, where there is real possibility that cops will put brick of heroin in your pocket and will torture you via raping with bottle of champagne and soldering iron so you confess (true story, seriously) - i wouldn't be worried.
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hauaua\
no i am from us and it came over seas. not from a high drug tracking place either. So your saying fuck it just have my buddy go monday. but i will update to let you know if any more insight form anyone glad to hear it!
thank you all
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Good luck.....just keep it simple (Particularly no long drawn out story to the post person with code words and what not), limit the people you have to depend on that will become "witnesses," and just pick this up like you would any package...just add a few simple steps to limit your risk; listed above. Also, remember next time (Hopefully there won't) this thread should have been in "shipping" or" security."
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caffeine me.
it went well. Nothing at all went wrong! just thought i would let you all know it is all well so far at least. its at friends sitting with return to sender on it. but it looks untouched! so i am thinken all is well thank you.
Sorry i did not know where to put this but it worked out thank you all!
appreciated anyone in this situation be careful
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In my opinion, signing does nothing to prove your guilt or innocence. It just means you picked up a package in your name. How does this show you knew what it was, ordered it, etc?
I'm no lawyer, but I can't see simply signing for a package being anything but meaningless. I'd be more worried leaving it there, having it sent back and going thru another round of customs.
If it goes sour, deny you ordered anything. You can't stop someone from sending illegal shit to your house, with your name on it, your name is in the phonebook and a matter of public record.
Perhaps it was a crazy ex sending you stuff to try and get you in trouble, you know?
I've signed for lots of packages, I don't think its a problem, but thats my own personal opinion.
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you just gave out entirely too many details about your life.
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crooked,
why do you say i gave out to many details about my life? for one? if i say i live left i live up. i mean i give enough info about my situation, but change minor details that would point it toward my direction what so ever. Well it went well and to be honest, I am done with the over seas orders. Too much stress but. please tell my why you said that? and why i gave to much about... what did i say?
thank you i have much respect for our senior members and take advice!
thank you