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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: hmdd on May 01, 2013, 02:54 pm

Title: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: hmdd on May 01, 2013, 02:54 pm
Hi all,

Please dont hate if this has been posted already, i did try to search but it didnt seem to be working.

I found this information yesterday about a new market opening up within a few weeks. I am not affiliated with them in any way, just curious how they seem to be popping up more and more since the SR problems.

The description explains quite a lot about how they intend to run it but interestingly they will be releasing a modified version of the TOR software, which, if i remember correctly DPR said something similar may be required to stop the attack on SR.

I'm probably looking too deep into it but its an interesting read about what the future may bring for these underground marketplaces. They have a few new features which would go down quite well.

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    We would like to take this opportunity to announce that The FreeMarket is being launched within 6 weeks (June 12th 2013).
     
    Following months of planning and development we shall be launching the latest online marketplace that is 100% crypto-currency focused. We currently have integrated Bitcoin, Litecoin and PPCoin. Although hidden on the TOR network for privacy and anonymity reasons we are not entirely focused on the contraband market, however The FreeMarket will only restrict sales of the following items;
    •     Firearms.
    •     Chemical Weapons.
    •     Weapons of Mass Destruction.
    •     Child Pornography.
    •     Any item designed to cause harm to another human being.
     
    Users have the option to "opt-out" of viewing any of the listings that are classed as contraband in many countries.
     
    Accessibility
     
    Our initial thought was that by providing a hidden tor service, it would immediately restrict the amount of people we could attract to the site so to address these issues we shall be releasing a modified version of the TOR Browser that automatically loads The FreeMarket upon startup. This modified browser will be shared by Torrents and the source code will be freely available for examination by everyone.
     
    We have also started to develop "The FreeMarket" Android app that will incorporate TOR connectivity without the need of running any other third party software to make the app functional.
     
    Vendors
     
    Vendor accounts are available for a $10 refundable deposit. The deposit is refunded automatically upon the vendors feedback rating reaching 10.
     
    Vendors have the option to peg their listing against the USD to protect against any drop in the exchange rate of BTC/LTC/PPC.
     
    Vendors can choose which Crypto Currencies they wish to accept for their listings.
     
    Vendors also choose which fiat currency they wish to set the price of the item using. The buyer will see the price of the item in their chosen default currency.
     
    Vendors can set their default refund policies and early finalization policies to save time when creating new sales listings. These can be edited for each item if required upon creation of the listing.
     
    Vendors can offer up to 5 different shipping options and also list up to 5 shipping exclusions.
     
    Upon receiving an order the vendor is presented with all the information about the buyer so they can make an informed decision as to whether they wish to request early finalization, accept with additional terms (Buyer will be requested to accept these terms), accept the order  or reject the order.
     
    Early finalization can be completed in a percentage and not in full, no vendor or product feedback is required to be given until the item has been shipped and the escrow balance has reached its final destination.
    Vendors can also add shipping discounts and product discounts. Upon the discounts being set the buyer is refunded the difference from the escrow balance automatically.
     
    Fees are set at 5% of the total order value completed through the escrow process.
     
    Buyers
     
    Buyers can make informed decisions on which vendor they wish to use, all product details are included in the listings including any refund policies, early finalization policies, and product feedback from other buyers and which crypto-currencies the vendor will accept.
     
    Buyers can cancel their order at the click of a button if they do not wish to accept additional terms set by the vendors. If a vendor requests part or full early finalization of an order, the buyer will be notified through their inbox, buyers are also notified of any discounts added by the vendor directly to their inbox with the discounted amount being refunded directly to the relevant crypto-currency balance.
     
    Feedback
     
    The  FreeMarket offers two separate feedback systems, one for the vendor and another for the purchased product.
     
    All feedback ratings are a maximum of 140 characters long (just like a tweet).
     
    Feedback does not have to be completed until the item has been shipped and the escrow balance has been finalized.
     
    Product feedback will remain with a listing until the listing has been permanently deleted by the vendor. If a vendor becomes out of stock on a product they can deactivate the listing until they have more stock available to ensure they keep all previous product feedback.
     
    Vendor feedback is there to provide an insight to a potential buyer as to what dealing with each particular vendor is like.
     
    Feedback scores are set as +1 for positive feedback, 0 for neutral feedback and -1 for negative feedback.
     
    Escrow
     
    All orders are made through our onsite escrow service, the buyer can finalize the escrow balance in full or in part before the item is shipped at the request of the vendor.
     
    Escrow disputes are something we wish to avoid to ensure both the vendor and the buyer has a great experience using The FreeMarket, however in the real world disputes do and will always happen. When a dispute occurs that cannot be settled between the buyer and the vendor, we shall follow the terms agreed to at the time of purchase, these terms are set out clearly by the vendor and displayed throughout the buying process. Buyers have the free will to decide themselves if they believe the terms offered by the vendor are to their satisfaction. If they are not, do not use the vendor. We understand that not all policies will cover every scenario and should the dispute require moderation, The FreeMarket will always be fair to both parties after reviewing each case separately.
     
    Financial Exchangers
     
    Not everyone has the knowledge on how to use the mainstream crypto exchanges and some people like simplicity, we have a section of the marketplace dedicated to financial exchanges. All crypto-funds being promised by an exchanger or buyer will be required to be placed into escrow. The vendor/exchanger can set their additional commission at the time of the listing being made to ensure the amount of currency being offered for exchange doesn't need changing every time the crypto exchange rate changes. No percentage fees are added by The FreeMarket on completed exchanges, a $2 listing fee is the set price for each listing made by an exchanger.
     
    Service Offerings
     
    We are currently developing a section of the marketplace that is solely focused on service providers and freelancers to ensure the core marketplace doesn't become full of people offering services. All service offerings have the option to use our onsite escrow service to ensure security for both the provider and the purchaser.
    This section is still under active development at the time of writing and more details will be released once a final decision has been made.
     
    Gaming
     
    The FreeMarket will include an official onsite lottery, each ticket will be sold for $1.00 (or the equivalent based on the buyers default currency). To enter the lottery you can pick 4 numbers between 1 and 35. Every Sunday we will randomly request an individual number from random members once 4 unique responses have been received, the winners will be notified and will received an equal share of the jackpot. In the result of no winners the jackpot shall roll over to the following Sunday. No commission is charged or taken from the jackpot fund in the lottery.
     
    Support
     
    We have enough team members and developers to provide constant 24/7 support.
     
    Security
     
    Security and confidence is the most important factor when it comes to sending crypto coins anywhere. That is why we have implemented several security features in the back-end of The FreeMarket to ensure that if any vulnerability are discovered and exploited by someone with ill intent, damage is confined and recoverable.
     
    We could launch the site 2 weeks earlier than planned but we wouldn't have time to test all aspects of the website and its security features. We will not launch early just to get launched for the sake of launching either early or on time without all of our testing being completed.
     
    There is not a single wallet held on our webserver, they are all held on separate servers to ensure the highest possible level of security for everyone’s coins.
     
    We fully understand that most websites are not perfect, so to ensure that if vulnerabilities are discovered they get reported to us, we shall be offering high bounties and a hall of fame listing to anyone that finds vulnerabilities or major bugs within our systems. These bounties are set based on the level of the vulnerability found and the potential consequences. We will have a mirror of the website with dummy data listed for people to attack at their leisure to try and discover vulnerabilities. Anyone wanting to obtain the .onion address for the testing site you can request this information through our support system on the main website.
     
    For peace of mind we suggest that you do not keep large balances on you FreeMarket account until you have established trust of both our systems and The FreeMarket team. We understand trust and respect is not a given it is something that we must earn over time.
     
    Auction Listings (Future)
     
    We have plans to implement further modules to The FreeMarket including an Auction marketplace, we shall only implement this feature once we have enough traffic to make it a viable option for vendors to list items on   an auction basis.
     
    Conclusion
     
    We look forward to providing a new marketplace platform for both existing and new members of the crypto community, we are also more than happy to answer questions and receive feedback both positive and negative. If you have any suggestions as to features we should offer then please feel free to let us know.
    We shall keep everyone informed of the changes to the launch date and changes to the functionality of the website.
     
    thefreemarket@tormail.org

Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: asshole on May 01, 2013, 03:23 pm
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interestingly they will be releasing a modified version of the TOR software

If that doesn't scream homeypot to you, then nothing will.
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: Holl3r on May 01, 2013, 03:38 pm
Yes, very interestingly.
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: eworkjr on May 01, 2013, 03:42 pm
sounds promising. The source code of that browser has to be completely looked through however.
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: crouchingt1ger on May 01, 2013, 03:46 pm
?Where did you find this
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: tree on May 01, 2013, 03:47 pm
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interestingly they will be releasing a modified version of the TOR software

If that doesn't scream homeypot to you, then nothing will.
^this!
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: RS7FI8ZRkm on May 01, 2013, 08:25 pm
honey pot + open source; usually don't mix, think about it. ::)
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: tree on May 01, 2013, 09:04 pm
Well it could. Your ISP could detect you're using "SRbrowser" the same way they know you're using TOR, then it could turn pretty bad.
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: Fallkniven on May 01, 2013, 10:17 pm
Well it could. Your ISP could detect your using "SRbrowser" the same way they know you're using TOR, then it could turn pretty bad.

I'd love to hear how you think it could turn pretty bad
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: Dread on May 01, 2013, 10:49 pm
I'd love to hear how you think it could turn pretty bad
I'm not sure about the modified Tor Browser but I am sure that I would never access a drug marketplace from an android phone. Probably more so if it was using an application named after said drug marketplace. Also, will this app be open source too?
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: acidhead on May 01, 2013, 10:56 pm
Silkroad will always be primary for me. But it is nice to have other market places available in cases something goes wrong here. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: tree on May 01, 2013, 11:21 pm
Well it could. Your ISP could detect you're using "SRbrowser" the same way they know you're using TOR, then it could turn pretty bad.

I'd love to hear how you think it could turn pretty bad
They could identify every user of the site? At least that's what I think.. I may be wrong. Give me some input.
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: Fallkniven on May 02, 2013, 09:24 am
Yeah Googles coming out with gDrugs app in november - sign up only with hair/urine sample, registered phone number, birth certificate, social security number, parents birth certificates, their parents birth certificates AND 3 litres of blood.

It's also going to be released with the new Goggles they are releasing, it plugs into your visual cortex and you can then just THINK drugs and an order will be placed through TOR on Silk Road with your favourite vendor.

 :o
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: Razorspyne on May 02, 2013, 10:07 am
Lol. ::) ^^ O0

Sounds like someone's been watching the Matrix high as fuck.... ::)

Above in OP sounds totally legit. :-\ I'll put an order in 2moz. :P I don't know why, but why I am I remembering that recent case of the FBI charging a man with child pornography for clicking a link that didn't actually contain porn? Honeypot or not, I'm going to ....  y a w n .... on this one ::)

Piece, Love and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: hmdd on May 02, 2013, 12:26 pm
The post was found on Bitcointalk relating to PPC coin.

The announcement was on pastebin.

Not going to post the links, if anyone wants to find the original post im sure they can easily.
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: NickNack on May 02, 2013, 04:39 pm
Reminds me of how Anon trapped some pedos...

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To do so, they allegedly collaborated with members of the Mozilla Foundation to create a modified Tor browser plugin which collected forensic data about the users.
http://arstechnica.com/business/2011/11/anonymous-collects-publishes-ip-addresses-of-alleged-pedophiles/
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 02, 2013, 04:47 pm
Reminds me of how Anon trapped some pedos...

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To do so, they allegedly collaborated with members of the Mozilla Foundation to create a modified Tor browser plugin which collected forensic data about the users.
http://arstechnica.com/business/2011/11/anonymous-collects-publishes-ip-addresses-of-alleged-pedophiles/

I remember that.  They only caught retarded pedos.  For real.  They named the firefox add-on "honey pawt" or something very close and had pedobear as the logo.  They only put the add-on on the CP section of the hidden wiki.  They had to be retarded to get caught like that.  Funny shit!
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: BruceCampbell on May 02, 2013, 05:55 pm
Hmmm...

Shady browser add-on with a pedobear logo from the hidden wiki.

Seems legit.
Title: Re: Yet Another Marketplace Coming..
Post by: fire on May 02, 2013, 07:39 pm
Reminds me of how Anon trapped some pedos...

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To do so, they allegedly collaborated with members of the Mozilla Foundation to create a modified Tor browser plugin which collected forensic data about the users.
http://arstechnica.com/business/2011/11/anonymous-collects-publishes-ip-addresses-of-alleged-pedophiles/

I remember that.  They only caught retarded pedos.  For real.  They named the firefox add-on "honey pawt" or something very close and had pedobear as the logo.  They only put the add-on on the CP section of the hidden wiki.  They had to be retarded to get caught like that.  Funny shit!

Lawlz!