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Title: Plumb for xrays
Post by: comandocannabis on August 29, 2012, 09:17 am
I've studied something in the internet about the xrays.  I've read that xrays doesn't pass trough xrays, but i have some questions:

1. Have you ever send something with plumb?
2.Have you heard about plumb for hidding things from xrays?
3.In the xray screen how do you see the plimb? completely opauqe or just invisible?

Please help me with that
Title: Re: Plumb for xrays
Post by: mercurysolid on August 29, 2012, 11:25 am
When you say "plumb" do you in fact mean "plumbum" or lead?
If you pack something in lead it is likely to draw an incredible amount of scrutiny because of its radiopacity.

Title: Re: Plumb for xrays
Post by: comandocannabis on August 29, 2012, 06:32 pm
Thanks ;) dude

If someone has more info plz tell me
Title: Re: Plumb for xrays
Post by: deliric on August 29, 2012, 06:43 pm
you see it completely opaque and it will draw a lot of attention... they will surely open the package.

Where are you from comandocannabis ?
Title: Re: Plumb for xrays
Post by: BenCousins on August 29, 2012, 08:39 pm
anyone know if anything beats xrays?
Title: Re: Plumb for xrays
Post by: ProudCannabian on August 29, 2012, 08:59 pm
Z Rays.

:P
Title: Re: Plumb for xrays
Post by: quinone on August 29, 2012, 09:54 pm
Any method to diffract x-rays (which is done by hitting a crystalline lattice, eg. in minerals) will still show up on the scanners as just a definite red flag just like 'plumb'.

The only real way is to be creative, package it so that it looks like there are multiple things in there and just try and divert attention in the package from the contraband.

That's about all I can suggest.
Title: Re: Plumb for xrays
Post by: BenCousins on August 29, 2012, 10:55 pm
Any method to diffract x-rays (which is done by hitting a crystalline lattice, eg. in minerals) will still show up on the scanners as just a definite red flag just like 'plumb'.

The only real way is to be creative, package it so that it looks like there are multiple things in there and just try and divert attention in the package from the contraband.

That's about all I can suggest.
so in other words LE have us absolutely flogged on this front?
Title: Re: Plumb for xrays
Post by: comandocannabis on August 29, 2012, 10:56 pm
anyone know if anything beats xrays?

I'm Colombian my friend.

Thanks for your your info quinone ;)
Title: Re: Plumb for xrays
Post by: quinone on August 30, 2012, 03:50 am
Any method to diffract x-rays (which is done by hitting a crystalline lattice, eg. in minerals) will still show up on the scanners as just a definite red flag just like 'plumb'.

The only real way is to be creative, package it so that it looks like there are multiple things in there and just try and divert attention in the package from the contraband.

That's about all I can suggest.
so in other words LE have us absolutely flogged on this front?

It's not that they've 'flogged' us with x-rays.  There are several ways to block x-rays, the problem is that the package will look like a white (or black) block, and that's very abnormal when the box should look like it has 'items' inside it.

Only way around x-ray's that I know of is if you send product using regular lettermail with 'documents' inside.  In that case it doesn't look abnormal at all if the x-ray scanner shows a big white/black block because they are just document's inside.

If it's in a box though, USPS expects there to be something IN the box, when they just see the outline of a brick (or any square/rectangular object and this raises many questions).

Again my suggestion is to seal the contraband in x-ray proof materials and put other items in the box so it looks like this mysterious block is just one of many item's being shipped, it would lower suspicion for sure.

Wish I had better advice :(
Title: Re: Plumb for xraysur product
Post by: BenCousins on August 30, 2012, 04:01 am
Any method to diffract x-rays (which is done by hitting a crystalline lattice, eg. in minerals) will still show up on the scanners as just a definite red flag just like 'plumb'.

The only real way is to be creative, package it so that it looks like there are multiple things in there and just try and divert attention in the package from the contraband.

That's about all I can suggest.
so in other words LE have us absolutely flogged on this front?

It's not that they've 'flogged' us with x-rays.  There are several ways to block x-rays, the problem is that the package will look like a white (or black) block, and that's very abnormal when the box should look like it has 'items' inside it.

Only way around x-ray's that I know of is if you send product using regular lettermail with 'documents' inside.  In that case it doesn't look abnormal at all if the x-ray scanner shows a big white/black block because they are just document's inside.

If it's in a box though, USPS expects there to be something IN the box, when they just see the outline of a brick (or any square/rectangular object and this raises many questions).

Again my suggestion is to seal the contraband in x-ray proof materials and put other items in the box so it looks like this mysterious block is just one of many item's being shipped, it would lower suspicion for sure.

Wish I had better advice :(
hmmm but what about that big plastic bag  encasing your product?
Title: Re: Plumb for xrays
Post by: souledout on August 30, 2012, 04:06 am
anyone know if anything beats xrays?

chuck norris !
Title: Re: Plumb for xrays
Post by: Kill John Lennon on August 30, 2012, 04:14 am
Not joking at all but hide them in a dildo and put other objects in there that are kinky and will show up on xray like handcuffs or a paddle or ball gag. Also, a letter in their in case it gets opend that reads, "All used Items are sold as is; No refunds"
Title: Re: Plumb for xrays
Post by: quinone on August 30, 2012, 05:04 am
Not joking at all but hide them in a dildo and put other objects in there that are kinky and will show up on xray like handcuffs or a paddle or ball gag. Also, a letter in their in case it gets opend that reads, "All used Items are sold as is; No refunds"

That's a good idea, not sure why I didn't think of it :P

But yeah from his advice, your best bet is to hollow out some legal object and put the contraband inside and reseal it.

The absolute BEST method I can think of is to ship a variety of minerals purchased from mineral collector shops (of which there are many, believe it or not there are a lot of people who collect rocks and minerals lol), hollow them out and put contraband in, use the return address of a mineral collectables company and the x-ray scanner will show a very bizarre image because of x-ray diffraction (it might show the outline of the mineral), but postal inspectors (and in fact anyone who knows anything about x-ray crystallography) will know this is simply because the product inside is a crystallized mineral (which diffract x-rays).

May be a bit of work if you do a lot of orders, but better safe then sorry, and if ever questioned say you're a mineral collector and have no idea why the x-ray machine showed the image it did other then to try and somehow throw in there that minerals are large crystallized structures.
Title: Re: Plumb for xrays
Post by: zero effect on August 30, 2012, 08:24 am
You can't sent fruit internationally, so hiding it in a plumb is out of the question.
Title: Re: Plumb for xrays
Post by: mercurysolid on August 30, 2012, 11:53 am
You can't sent fruit internationally, so hiding it in a plumb is out of the question.

Sir, that is without any doubt or consideration to the contrary the single worst pun I have heard this month. I salute you.