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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: BitcoinsUK on February 23, 2013, 09:50 pm

Title: Buy/Sell BTC (Silk Road Withdrawal/Deposit work around)
Post by: BitcoinsUK on February 23, 2013, 09:50 pm
Due to massive changes might as well jusst redo this entire post

[ Buying and selling bitcoins ]


You can purchase bitcoins either through the post or via online bank transfer
Bank transfers are completely safe - selling bitcoins is perfectly legal and even if it wasn't they're not gonna go through all my different bank details to find ppl buying something from me that is legal!

YOU MUST BE A MEMBER FOR AT LEAST 2 MONTHS AND SPENT $200 TO USE MY SERVICE!

New Customers, regardless of stats (minimum 2 months membership):

To purchase through the post, coins will NOT BE RELEASED until I receive the post. It must still be posted next day delivery with tracking, and I get the tracking number, so if I'm low on coins I know not to sell them to someone else.

After 3 transactions (10 transactions if a member for less than 6 months), half the coins (up to a maximum of £200) will be released when I get the tracking number, the rest when I receive the cash

In the event that only half the Bitcoins were released to you, the other half will be released at a RECALCULATED RATE. 99% of the time it won't matter, but the amount outstanding will be recalculated upon when I get the rest of the money.

Paying using High Street/Internet banking.

What happens is I give you a Sort Code and Account # (and my phone number for quicker communication) and you transfer a test payment of £1. If your online banking suppports what most people's in the UK then it will show up instantly. The £1 will be reimbursed when you buy coins.

You then say how much you are transferring across and I let you know how many BTC you would get.
If you're buying a lot and are a bit wary of me, I am quite happy to do it in chunks of whatever you're comfortable with, minimum of £100/time. If you're buying several thousands worth I'm only willing to do it 5 times, so you could do 1 coins worth, then 3, then 10, then 20, then the rest it's up to you, hell do it 1 4 times but by the 5th you need to send all the cash.

If you instead want to it via the counter, you'll again get the details and you go into your nearest branch of whichever bank I'm using at the time, pay it in (you don't need to do a test paymentm as long as it's the right bank it always goes in instantly when paid at the counter NOT AT THE DROP SLOTS!) then either text or ring me to let me know, or message me on SR if you prefer and I'll move the coins across :)

[ Cost Of Bitcoins ]

https://mtgox.com/index.html?Currency=GBP look at the top, the last number, the weighted average, that + the fee stated below.

The price structure and postal rules are changing. Before reading these remember several things -

[1] I don't charge commission on sales, I don't charge fees of any kind, be it per bitcoin or per transaction, I don't charge fees for withdrawing your money like a lot of places do!
[2] Your coins arrive within SECONDS of me receiving payment, and if the arrangement is done via online banking, from asking to getting your coins could be done IN LESS THAN A MINUTE! Hell even if your bank isn't instant the most it takes to show up on my side is 30mins or so.
[3] If you pay the money OTC (over the counter), by that point you'll have my work number so can contact me, and when it's paid at a counter it shows up instantly so by the time you get home you'll have your coins...and if you didn't want to phone me, it's still only a few seconds of me getting your message
[4] If you're the especially paranoid type and want to go via post, if you pop it in the post before 2pm it has a 99% chance of getting to me the next day! Because of a recent scammer, people will no longer have any coins released before I've seen the money; it seems people will destroy their rep over such a small amount of money. And as you have the tracking number too you can feel safe knowing you have proof that it arrived to me! After 5 postal transactions you then have the option to have half the funds up front. This also applies to people who have already established a relationship with me, you still get it. Unfortunately the limit is £200.
[5] You know whatever the market is, you won't pay much more than it; not only is it hard to find people selling at market prices because they want to bring the value up, whilst only finding really low offers as people try to bring it down and/or force high volume sellers to lower their prices, in either case exchanges cost more, but for those who buy in bulk it's impossible to find anyone who has that many coins selling at anywhere near the market price as they are especially interested in keeping the market price high.
[6] If buying/selling large volumes of bitcoins you can get all your money in 1 go, instead of the limits most places set, whilst paying additional withdrawal costs,

#5 & 6 are especially important - #5 because it's getting harder and harder to find coins for a fair price - people are trying to manipulate the prices, to either lower raise the market, and/or force bulk sellers to stop trying to sell for WAY over their value, and bulk buyers are trying to keep the market high,
#6 affects how much you pay especially if you're a high volume customer - say you managed to sell off a load of coins, you've paid a boatload in transaction fees, especially if multiple clients were involved, and then you've got to withdraw it; most places have not only a daily withdrawal limit, but a monthly limit before they contact authorities and/or ask for ID. And each time you withdraw you pay a fee for that, and if it's going from say euros to pounds they charge you for that as well!

Soooooo with that in mind the prices are gonna change - I was conned out of £300 and it could have ruined my business

New prices are set by how much you're spending instead of per bitcoin:


[£100 to <£400]     £5 per hundred (£15 for £300-399 for example)
[£400 to £1000]     £3 per hundred (£21 for £700-799 for example)
[£1000 to £3000]    £30 per thousand, with £10 added per £x100, £120 for £3300 for example.
[£3000+]            A flat fee of £100
Fees can be either deducted from the total you were gonna pay (so you'd get £3180 worth of coins for example if you wanted it deducted from the example above, or pay £3420 instead, it's up to you.

[Other Information]

I will not haggle over the prices, ANY ATTEMPT to haggle over the set prices will mean ANY further messages will be deleted without looking at them. I make very little money per deal so don't waste my time.
You can message me on here or the forums, and once you become a customer you'll get my telephone number
Title: Re: Buy/Sell BTC (Silk Road Withdrawal/Deposit work around)
Post by: somethingforyourmind on June 28, 2013, 12:45 am
This guy is back in the game. Happy to confirm he's legit. Just got about £220 of shiny coin
Title: Re: Buy/Sell BTC (Silk Road Withdrawal/Deposit work around)
Post by: BitcoinsUK on June 28, 2013, 05:46 am
Cheers buddy. The whole system is being overhauled again, I think I've got it down perfect now. Although it's sad to see Tunbear go, because I relied on him so heavily it really screwed me when he left. So I took the time off to edumacake muhself  and not only have I (hopefully) covered all areas so I can't be scammed, but with Tunbear gone it help me develop a system to cover all types of customers - oh and I'll be getting a second phone so people can contact me directly; I missed out on a £200+ sale before because I'd fallen asleep at the desk.

Although because I've just started up and can't yet afford my own coins, I really only lost my "commission" (which y'all will be glad to hear that although I'm no longer getting the kick-ass prices off Tunbear AND the free coins, my rates are about the same - market price +£1-3 per coin, depending how little you buy - it takes the same about of time for £100 as £500. I'm on the fence still about 500-1000, and either no charge at all, but most likely get the coins for UNDER market value if you spend over £1000!

Once business picks up a bit more I'm going to work out a set-in-stone set of rules for vendors who want to sell coins, as although I know what a headache it is to sell coins for value, especially large amounts of them, I'd still feel bad taking too much per coin
Title: Re: Buy/Sell BTC (Silk Road Withdrawal/Deposit work around)
Post by: BitcoinsUK on June 29, 2013, 12:56 pm
I've updated the terms of buying bitcoins as someone has scammed me. Unfortunately this means waiting longer for new members who want to use the post, but you should be using the bank anyway :P


Listing address: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/9089f61263

Profile address: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/f76d1ab300

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[ Buying and selling bitcoins ]


You can purchase bitcoins either through the post or via online bank transfer
Bank transfers are completely safe - selling bitcoins is perfectly legal and even if it wasn't they're not gonna go through all my different bank details to find ppl buying something from me that is legal!

YOU MUST BE A MEMBER FOR AT LEAST 2 MONTHS AND SPENT $200 TO USE MY SERVICE!

New Customers, regardless of stats (minimum 2 months membership):

To purchase through the post, coins will NOT BE RELEASED until I receive the post. It must still be posted next day delivery with tracking, and I get the tracking number, so if I'm low on coins I know not to sell them to someone else.

After 3 transactions (10 transactions if a member for less than 6 months), half the coins (up to a maximum of £200) will be released when I get the tracking number, the rest when I receive the cash

In the event that only half the Bitcoins were released to you, the other half will be released at a RECALCULATED RATE. 99% of the time it won't matter, but the amount outstanding will be recalculated upon when I get the rest of the money.

Paying using High Street/Internet banking.

What happens is I give you a Sort Code and Account # (and my phone number for quicker communication) and you transfer a test payment of £1. If your online banking suppports what most people's in the UK then it will show up instantly. The £1 will be reimbursed when you buy coins.

You then say how much you are transferring across and I let you know how many BTC you would get.
If you're buying a lot and are a bit wary of me, I am quite happy to do it in chunks of whatever you're comfortable with, minimum of £100/time. If you're buying several thousands worth I'm only willing to do it 5 times, so you could do 1 coins worth, then 3, then 10, then 20, then the rest it's up to you, hell do it 1 4 times but by the 5th you need to send all the cash.

If you instead want to it via the counter, you'll again get the details and you go into your nearest branch of whichever bank I'm using at the time, pay it in (you don't need to do a test paymentm as long as it's the right bank it always goes in instantly when paid at the counter NOT AT THE DROP SLOTS!) then either text or ring me to let me know, or message me on SR if you prefer and I'll move the coins across :)

[ Cost Of Bitcoins ]

https://mtgox.com/index.html?Currency=GBP look at the top, the last number, the weighted average, that + the fee stated below.

The price structure and postal rules are changing. Before reading these remember several things -

[1] I don't charge commission on sales, I don't charge fees of any kind, be it per bitcoin or per transaction, I don't charge fees for withdrawing your money like a lot of places do!
[2] Your coins arrive within SECONDS of me receiving payment, and if the arrangement is done via online banking, from asking to getting your coins could be done IN LESS THAN A MINUTE! Hell even if your bank isn't instant the most it takes to show up on my side is 30mins or so.
[3] If you pay the money OTC (over the counter), by that point you'll have my work number so can contact me, and when it's paid at a counter it shows up instantly so by the time you get home you'll have your coins...and if you didn't want to phone me, it's still only a few seconds of me getting your message
[4] If you're the especially paranoid type and want to go via post, if you pop it in the post before 2pm it has a 99% chance of getting to me the next day! Because of a recent scammer, people will no longer have any coins released before I've seen the money; it seems people will destroy their rep over such a small amount of money. And as you have the tracking number too you can feel safe knowing you have proof that it arrived to me! After 5 postal transactions you then have the option to have half the funds up front. This also applies to people who have already established a relationship with me, you still get it. Unfortunately the limit is £200.
[5] You know whatever the market is, you won't pay much more than it; not only is it hard to find people selling at market prices because they want to bring the value up, whilst only finding really low offers as people try to bring it down and/or force high volume sellers to lower their prices, in either case exchanges cost more, but for those who buy in bulk it's impossible to find anyone who has that many coins selling at anywhere near the market price as they are especially interested in keeping the market price high.
[6] If buying/selling large volumes of bitcoins you can get all your money in 1 go, instead of the limits most places set, whilst paying additional withdrawal costs,

#5 & 6 are especially important - #5 because it's getting harder and harder to find coins for a fair price - people are trying to manipulate the prices, to either lower raise the market, and/or force bulk sellers to stop trying to sell for WAY over their value, and bulk buyers are trying to keep the market high,
#6 affects how much you pay especially if you're a high volume customer - say you managed to sell off a load of coins, you've paid a boatload in transaction fees, especially if multiple clients were involved, and then you've got to withdraw it; most places have not only a daily withdrawal limit, but a monthly limit before they contact authorities and/or ask for ID. And each time you withdraw you pay a fee for that, and if it's going from say euros to pounds they charge you for that as well!

Soooooo with that in mind the prices are gonna change - I was conned out of £300 and it could have ruined my business

New prices are set by how much you're spending instead of per bitcoin:


[£100 to <£400]     £5 per hundred (£15 for £300-399 for example)
[£400 to £1000]     £3 per hundred (£21 for £700-799 for example)
[£1000 to £3000]    £30 per thousand, with £10 added per £x100, £120 for £3300 for example.
[£3000+]            A flat fee of £100
Fees can be either deducted from the total you were gonna pay (so you'd get £3180 worth of coins for example if you wanted it deducted from the example above, or pay £3420 instead, it's up to you.

[Other Information]

I will not haggle over the prices, ANY ATTEMPT to haggle over the set prices will mean ANY further messages will be deleted without looking at them. I make very little money per deal so don't waste my time.
You can message me on here or the forums, and once you become a customer you'll get my telephone number

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Listing address: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/9089f61263

Profile address: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/f76d1ab300