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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: dedhead69 on April 16, 2013, 01:51 am

Title: shrooms vs powder
Post by: dedhead69 on April 16, 2013, 01:51 am
Can anyone help me with the differences between them BESIDES one is grinded and the other isnt?  I see that USAShroomz(99) sells a whole ounce for almost nothing... So I would like to hear some recommendations please
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: slirp on May 29, 2013, 03:01 am
I'm curious as well.  Looks like the powder from USAShroomz is from the psilocybe galindoi mushroom.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: jameslink2 on May 29, 2013, 03:11 am
There is little to no difference provided they are fresh ground.

Psilocybin degrades in light, heat (above 180f (82c)), and in the presence of oxygen.  Whole mushrooms will last years if packaged in an airtight container and placed in a dark freezer. Left out at room temp and in the presence of oxygen, they stay potent for up to a year.

If the mushroom is ground, then the psilocybin breaks down faster. Ground should be used in 30 to 60 days or it will start loosing it's potency.

Think of it like spices, spices are best if ground just before they are used. Pre-ground spice you get at the grocery store is not as strong.

I am not suggesting that the pre-ground mushrooms are not as strong, only that they have a shorter shelf life.

When I sold local, most wanted to see the whole mushroom to make sure they were getting the real thing and not something that was ground up with 10% dirt.

Again, not suggesting that the vendors here provide anything other than 100% fresh ground product. Just things that I know from experience.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: CHROOT on May 29, 2013, 06:54 am
Once powdered, the potency clock is ticking!

There are differences in the trip as well. Whole shrooms provide a more spread-out trip, while powdered produces shorter, more intense trips. Same amount of psilocybin, it just absorbs in your bloodstream MUCH faster when powdered, so it comes on more intense and dies off quicker.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: underbelly on May 29, 2013, 09:11 am
Provided that mushrooms are cracker dry and stored in an airtight container with desiccant, it will keep for several years if not longer.   
Sure fresh mushrooms are always the most potent but cracker dry ones arent too far behind. :)

But like others said, if you powder them, consume it within a few weeks.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: slirp on May 29, 2013, 12:09 pm
Has anyone here tried both the p galindoi powder from USAShroomz and also cubenis mushrooms from vendors such as chroot, hashman, catfish916, kaliforniaProducts, etc ?  I'm curious about a subjective comparison from what's available on SR.  Right now it appears that the dried p galindoi from USAShroomz is a pretty good deal unless I'm missing something (like the strength of p galindoi compared to cubenis).

1 oz prices (with US shipping) (in order of popularity according to SR)

USAShroomz (P galindoi powder instead of cubenis non-powder): $60.30
chroot: $198.87
hashman: $146.27
kaliforniaProducts: $160.38
catfish916: $220.68
MushroomMafia: $136.00
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: jorgecassio on May 30, 2013, 04:52 am
Has anyone here tried both the p galindoi powder from USAShroomz and also cubenis mushrooms from vendors such as chroot, hashman, catfish916, kaliforniaProducts, etc ?  I'm curious about a subjective comparison from what's available on SR.  Right now it appears that the dried p galindoi from USAShroomz is a pretty good deal unless I'm missing something (like the strength of p galindoi compared to cubenis).

1 oz prices (with US shipping) (in order of popularity according to SR)

USAShroomz (P galindoi powder instead of cubenis non-powder): $60.30
chroot: $198.87
hashman: $146.27
kaliforniaProducts: $160.38
catfish916: $220.68
MushroomMafia: $136.00
MEYEVW

I've used USAShroomz powdered stuff once. I usually pre-game with it before going it. It's fun if you're with the right people/music. Quality Stuff. Visuals aren't that intense but the euphoria is heart-warming.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: b0lixtrader on May 30, 2013, 05:20 am
Galindoi you must eat more than what you would have to cubes to have a good trip.

The come up is about the same in terms of intensity but it soon mellows out and while it is still very "trippy" it's way easier to function and move around.  I guess you can say there is less bodyload.

On cubes I just straight up feel retarded and the bodyload is heavy.

To see the real differences you just have to experience it yourself.  IMO though, it's way more euphoric than cubes and it's just different in terms of the whole trip.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: slirp on May 30, 2013, 06:10 pm
For the cubenis does it make sense to just go with one of the cheaper vendors such as MushroomMafia or hashman?  chroot and catfish916 appear to be charging a premium but do you basically get the same thing?

I'm a fan of visuals (+1 for cubenis it sounds like) but hate bodyload (-1 for cubenis is sounds like) but like you said just gotta try both.

The effects are different but how much more Galindoi than cubenis is needed for a good trip?  Are we talking like 25% more or 100% more or what?

Thanks.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: b0lixtrader on May 30, 2013, 07:10 pm
About 5g is equal to 3g of cubes.

Here is a full FAQ about galindoi originally written by the seller Galindoi who first brought this product on to SR.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=15991.0
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: slirp on May 30, 2013, 07:19 pm
About 5g is equal to 3g of cubes.

Here is a full FAQ about galindoi originally written by the seller Galindoi who first brought this product on to SR.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=15991.0

+1 to you.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: Litescape on May 30, 2013, 08:27 pm
About 5g is equal to 3g of cubes.

Here is a full FAQ about galindoi originally written by the seller Galindoi who first brought this product on to SR.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=15991.0

Interesting. I ate 10 grams over the course of a night and never got above a 5. The fuck?
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: b0lixtrader on May 30, 2013, 08:52 pm
You ate 10g of galindoi and never got above the equivalent trip of 5g cubes?
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: DMTisinME on May 31, 2013, 02:13 am
Interesting. I ate 10 grams over the course of a night and never got above a 5. The fuck?

Don't redose. It only extends trip length, not intensity.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: dedhead69 on June 01, 2013, 01:26 am
So much useful information.  Thank you everyone!
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: The Missus on June 01, 2013, 03:34 am
Probably pointless to throw into this convo, but I hear that the reason why most people don't prefer their mushies ground unless they're making tea with it, is because when you chew on the mushies they can get stuck in between your teeth and cause them to ache and rot....
I always make tea with my mushies though, because I'm an anxious wreck with come ups.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: dedhead69 on June 01, 2013, 05:34 am
Probably pointless to throw into this convo, but I hear that the reason why most people don't prefer their mushies ground unless they're making tea with it, is because when you chew on the mushies they can get stuck in between your teeth and cause them to ache and rot....
I always make tea with my mushies though, because I'm an anxious wreck with come ups.

ahahahahahaha!!!! nice! and how does the tea taste?
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: slirp on June 01, 2013, 12:29 pm
The tea helps with anxiety on the come up?
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: The Missus on June 01, 2013, 05:20 pm
The tea helps with anxiety on the come up?

Mushie tea helps me with the come ups extremely well. It hits me hard and doesn't leave anytime for me to start thinking "oh shit oh shit oh shit" haha. It also takes out the stomach ache that puts me in such an anxious stat.
The downside though is that the trip is shortened by a good hour.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: The Missus on June 01, 2013, 05:24 pm
Probably pointless to throw into this convo, but I hear that the reason why most people don't prefer their mushies ground unless they're making tea with it, is because when you chew on the mushies they can get stuck in between your teeth and cause them to ache and rot....
I always make tea with my mushies though, because I'm an anxious wreck with come ups.

ahahahahahaha!!!! nice! and how does the tea taste?

It tastes great, I know how to make my tea :D
But not even the greatest tea can completely snuff out the shitty shroom taste hahaha
Better than downing mushies with corn syrup (don't ever do it)  :o
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: dedhead69 on June 02, 2013, 11:20 pm
Probably pointless to throw into this convo, but I hear that the reason why most people don't prefer their mushies ground unless they're making tea with it, is because when you chew on the mushies they can get stuck in between your teeth and cause them to ache and rot....
I always make tea with my mushies though, because I'm an anxious wreck with come ups.

ahahahahahaha!!!! nice! and how does the tea taste?

It tastes great, I know how to make my tea :D
But not even the greatest tea can completely snuff out the shitty shroom taste hahaha
Better than downing mushies with corn syrup (don't ever do it)  :o

Props to you for trying it LMAO!  The first time I tried shrooms I made a sandwich with Nutella.  If you love sweets as much as I do, Nutella is the way to go!  It literally tasted like nutella with like some kinda nut in it.. SOOOO GOOD!  So thats how i usually eat my shroomies.  Except for the one time I went to see Infected Mushroom.  I fucking ate them plain! I dunno how I got em to go down
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: busta999 on June 03, 2013, 11:54 am
The main difference as far as I am concerned is that when you buy whole shrooms you can see what you get. You are pretty sure that you are getting is in fact shrooms in the amount you paid.

If you buy powder you wil have to take the vendors word that "filler" has not been added.

I always prefer to buy shrooms. I have no problem eating them whole (chewing well of course) but should I want them ground then it is anyway just a one minute job with a coffee grinder or morrter and I still would much prefer to do it myself than getting them pre-ground.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: zxydwx3 on June 03, 2013, 12:44 pm
I hate the taste so I always grind up my shrooms and use them in a recipe for some baked goods.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: MushroomMafia on June 03, 2013, 01:57 pm
Hey! We saw our name mentioned, and can comment about our own product!  We have got some great reviews on the threads and know our product is top notch.  Our mushrooms have been reviewed as 'potent' and 'visual'.  We keep all our mushrooms whole and stem and cap intact.  The air is dehumidified in our drying room, we dont use forced air heat to dry our mushrooms.  Dont know why this is advantageous?  Thats just one of many reasons why we handle the growing :)  Is your vendor growing in tubs?  Not us, we moved off the 'shroomery' forums years ago, and have looked to commercial fungus grows.  Also, we are looking for interest in FRESH mushrooms, not dried.  If you havent had them fresh, you havent really eaten mushrooms ;)
We will offer powered listings soon as well. 
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: The Missus on June 03, 2013, 05:53 pm
Probably pointless to throw into this convo, but I hear that the reason why most people don't prefer their mushies ground unless they're making tea with it, is because when you chew on the mushies they can get stuck in between your teeth and cause them to ache and rot....
I always make tea with my mushies though, because I'm an anxious wreck with come ups.

ahahahahahaha!!!! nice! and how does the tea taste?

It tastes great, I know how to make my tea :D
But not even the greatest tea can completely snuff out the shitty shroom taste hahaha
Better than downing mushies with corn syrup (don't ever do it)  :o

Props to you for trying it LMAO!  The first time I tried shrooms I made a sandwich with Nutella.  If you love sweets as much as I do, Nutella is the way to go!  It literally tasted like nutella with like some kinda nut in it.. SOOOO GOOD!  So thats how i usually eat my shroomies.  Except for the one time I went to see Infected Mushroom.  I fucking ate them plain! I dunno how I got em to go down

My God! That is the best idea ever thrown my way on how to eat shrooms. Why didn't I ever think of that lol
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: slirp on June 12, 2013, 04:25 pm
I went ahead and ordered 1oz of the galindoi powder from USAShroomz today since it is so cheap.  Maybe galindoi powder isn't such a bad option for my first time on shrooms since it is said to be less intense than the cubenis.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: jameslink2 on June 13, 2013, 11:21 pm
I went ahead and ordered 1oz of the galindoi powder from USAShroomz today since it is so cheap.  Maybe galindoi powder isn't such a bad option for my first time on shrooms since it is said to be less intense than the cubenis.

The Galindoi powder that USAShroomz sells is ground sclerotia not mushoom. The reason it is less intense is because the sclerotia contain 3mg to 6mg of psilocybin per gram dried instead of the 4mg to 8mg per dry gram contained in Cubensis.

So if you want a trip equal to 3g of Cubensis you will need to eat 4g of Galindoi sclerotia.

(if Cubensis is 100% then Galindoi sclerotia are 75% strength)

Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: slirp on June 14, 2013, 12:05 am
I went ahead and ordered 1oz of the galindoi powder from USAShroomz today since it is so cheap.  Maybe galindoi powder isn't such a bad option for my first time on shrooms since it is said to be less intense than the cubenis.

The Galindoi powder that USAShroomz sells is ground sclerotia not mushoom. The reason it is less intense is because the sclerotia contain 3mg to 6mg of psilocybin per gram dried instead of the 4mg to 8mg per dry gram contained in Cubensis.

So if you want a trip equal to 3g of Cubensis you will need to eat 4g of Galindoi sclerotia.

(if Cubensis is 100% then Galindoi sclerotia are 75% strength)

Thanks.

Just wondering: is it more complicated than that?  People are saying the high is different so I assumed there must be more than one active ingredient (chemical).
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: jameslink2 on June 14, 2013, 04:27 am
It is a little more complex than that. There are several active compounds that effect serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine levels. Every species has a slightly different mix of them and cause a slightly different trip but the biggest factor is the lower levels of psilocybin and psilocin. Psilocin bonds to the 5HT receptors and works as an artificial serotonin causing the bulk of the trip.  The Psilocybin is converted to psilocin in the body. The more psilocin the faster the come on and the more vivid the trip from my experience.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: TrippinOnHunger on July 31, 2013, 04:11 am
Hahahaha mmm Nutella and mushrooms! Im craving!  I recently got an O from captaindabs and the shrooms came as black as night, but they kinda smell like chocolate. 
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: slirp on August 01, 2013, 03:40 pm
My first shroom trip started out fine but I spent way too much time on the toilet and eventually I got nauseated.  The trip duration was much shorter lived than how long the sides lasted.  I prefer the effects from chemicals like LSD and 2C-B but then again I took P galindoi rather than P cubensis.  I did make it into tea.  Used about 5.5g.  Trip effects were fine but very short lasting.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: TrippinOnHunger on September 27, 2013, 03:34 am
How do you make shroom tea?
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: underbelly on September 27, 2013, 10:59 am
Mushrooms are an amazing drug!
Mescaline is meant to be the BEST psychedelic out there which can potentially make it the best natural drug.

Take 10 grams in a fruit smoothie of mushrooms, you will see God.
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: moonflower on September 27, 2013, 06:56 pm
you can always go for a chocolate bar. definitely the tastiest method of consumption! the mushrooms are powdered so they are absorbed faster and the maois in the chocolate should potentiate it a bit. :)
Title: Re: shrooms vs powder
Post by: TrippinOnHunger on September 28, 2013, 02:47 am
how much mescaline is considered a dose?  Ive been dying to try it!