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Title: Vicowatz?
Post by: EpisodeFive on August 14, 2012, 07:55 pm
I don't know if this is in the right place or not, I don't spend much time on the forums, but I'll put it here. Move it if need be.

Vicowatz hasn't been active in 3 days, has no active listings, and hasn't had any orders finalized in 5 days. I ordered a product from him over a week ago (I believe last sunday) and it marked as in transit on tuesday. Watz usually ships really quickly... 2 days tops. I'm just concerned. It's been abnormally long on the shipping, and I'm wondering if anyone knows if he's doing okay.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: Joeyjojojr on August 14, 2012, 09:10 pm
Hope hes alright. Vicowatz is a great SR vendor.

Although, i noticed last time before he pulled his listings (or sold out) his feedback starting showing up that it took a long time too. Not sure what the deal with that is.

Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: robrob on August 15, 2012, 02:20 am
Same issue here....

Ive had good success with him in the past but this time not so much.

Order marked shipped early part of last week paid for priority shipping, still no product, still no reply from the vendor.  Guess its going to be a deal where we have to wait for the chance to resolve.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: TheFourHorsemen on August 15, 2012, 10:28 am
Same thing here, he sent me a message about a sale for previous customers and so I thought why not because I have not had any problems in the past but it has been a week in transit.  Hoping everything works out but I'm a little worried/confused I guess more than anything.  Its still in escrow so I guess if all else fails I should be able to cancel/get my money back but it is definitely weird.  His vendor page says he was last seen four days ago, but I will be sending a message anyways to see if I can get some sort of response.  I did order a few weeks ago and he canceled on me and took down all his listings and never responded to my message... I figured he needed to re-up or something, so I really do not know about vico anymore.  If he doesn't come through I will probably not be ordering from again because I don't like having my money tied up for no reason, at least last time he had the courtesy to cancel so I could have my money out of escrow. We will see though, I be back when I figure something out. 
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: EpisodeFive on August 15, 2012, 07:24 pm
Same thing here, he sent me a message about a sale for previous customers and so I thought why not because I have not had any problems in the past but it has been a week in transit.  Hoping everything works out but I'm a little worried/confused I guess more than anything.  Its still in escrow so I guess if all else fails I should be able to cancel/get my money back but it is definitely weird.  His vendor page says he was last seen four days ago, but I will be sending a message anyways to see if I can get some sort of response.  I did order a few weeks ago and he canceled on me and took down all his listings and never responded to my message... I figured he needed to re-up or something, so I really do not know about vico anymore.  If he doesn't come through I will probably not be ordering from again because I don't like having my money tied up for no reason, at least last time he had the courtesy to cancel so I could have my money out of escrow. We will see though, I be back when I figure something out.

yeah, I did the private sale too. I'd ordered several times before and had no problems other than it took a couple of days for him to get it sent out, but shipping only took 2 days. He marked it as in transit quicker this time, I should have gotten in before saturday. I hope everything is okay, but it is a little suspicious that he would do the private sale for previous customers only. Hope I'm not being scammed, I've had really good luck on the Road so far.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: EpisodeFive on August 17, 2012, 12:33 am
Anyone have any word yet? I'm starting to get a little annoyed. His SR profile said he was active yesterday, but he didn't read the message I sent, and I doubt he read a single one of the messages.

Has anyone heard ANYTHING? I know he has a profile on the forums, so maybe he'll see this. It's getting kind of stupid now.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: aqua on August 17, 2012, 04:58 am
I'm having the same problem here. Ordered over a week ago and nothing showed up and i paid for priority. My order was also marked in transit exactly 10 minutes after i ordered which was weird. Something similar to this happened a several weeks ago when orders didn't go out. Except last time he gave me a explanation and fixed it promptly. This time i  sent him a couple messages but none have been read. My order is about to go to resolve in a day so i guess im going to have to let the sr admins handle it. Its Too bad cuz we've done a lot of business in the past.

Also, how does the resolution center thing work? ive never had to use it before.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: Fuckyocouch on August 17, 2012, 05:28 am
Same thing here, he sent me a message about a sale for previous customers and so I thought why not because I have not had any problems in the past but it has been a week in transit.  Hoping everything works out but I'm a little worried/confused I guess more than anything.  Its still in escrow so I guess if all else fails I should be able to cancel/get my money back but it is definitely weird.  His vendor page says he was last seen four days ago, but I will be sending a message anyways to see if I can get some sort of response.  I did order a few weeks ago and he canceled on me and took down all his listings and never responded to my message... I figured he needed to re-up or something, so I really do not know about vico anymore.  If he doesn't come through I will probably not be ordering from again because I don't like having my money tied up for no reason, at least last time he had the courtesy to cancel so I could have my money out of escrow. We will see though, I be back when I figure something out.

He'll come through, more than likely he's probably just waiting on a reup, being that he currently has no active listings- and I'd bet that since he did a sale a week ago folks probably cleaned his ass out, lol!!!. If you have a current order with him and are possibly worried about losing funds, hit the cancel button and just wait til he responds. Truth be told he's one of the only cats on here I order from, true OG in every sense of the word.

He also looks to have just had 2 orders within the last 2 days finalize and rate so I think it's all good.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: EpisodeFive on August 17, 2012, 07:10 pm
Same thing here, he sent me a message about a sale for previous customers and so I thought why not because I have not had any problems in the past but it has been a week in transit.  Hoping everything works out but I'm a little worried/confused I guess more than anything.  Its still in escrow so I guess if all else fails I should be able to cancel/get my money back but it is definitely weird.  His vendor page says he was last seen four days ago, but I will be sending a message anyways to see if I can get some sort of response.  I did order a few weeks ago and he canceled on me and took down all his listings and never responded to my message... I figured he needed to re-up or something, so I really do not know about vico anymore.  If he doesn't come through I will probably not be ordering from again because I don't like having my money tied up for no reason, at least last time he had the courtesy to cancel so I could have my money out of escrow. We will see though, I be back when I figure something out.

He'll come through, more than likely he's probably just waiting on a reup, being that he currently has no active listings- and I'd bet that since he did a sale a week ago folks probably cleaned his ass out, lol!!!. If you have a current order with him and are possibly worried about losing funds, hit the cancel button and just wait til he responds. Truth be told he's one of the only cats on here I order from, true OG in every sense of the word.

He also looks to have just had 2 orders within the last 2 days finalize and rate so I think it's all good.

You don't get to mark a pacakage as in-transit before having the package, and you certainly don't ignore everyone's messages even though we know he's been on. I don't care if he got cleaned out, he shouldn't have sent all previous customers a sale notice and willfully mark the product as in transit if he didn't have it. It's bad business. Sellers are always talking about how annoying it is to have money tied up in escrow, same goes for buyers. If he had just ignored the order and let me cancel it, then I could understand. Shit, if he even responded to a message letting me know what was going on I'd be able to get over it. But when you pay for priority shipping and your package is marked in transit, it should already be on its way and if it's not, you have to have a good reason. Re-up or not, don't sell what you don't have. If this was the case he should have sent messages out telling us there was a delay, or just cancelled the orders.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: TheFourHorsemen on August 18, 2012, 09:38 am
Same thing here, he sent me a message about a sale for previous customers and so I thought why not because I have not had any problems in the past but it has been a week in transit.  Hoping everything works out but I'm a little worried/confused I guess more than anything.  Its still in escrow so I guess if all else fails I should be able to cancel/get my money back but it is definitely weird.  His vendor page says he was last seen four days ago, but I will be sending a message anyways to see if I can get some sort of response.  I did order a few weeks ago and he canceled on me and took down all his listings and never responded to my message... I figured he needed to re-up or something, so I really do not know about vico anymore.  If he doesn't come through I will probably not be ordering from again because I don't like having my money tied up for no reason, at least last time he had the courtesy to cancel so I could have my money out of escrow. We will see though, I be back when I figure something out.

He'll come through, more than likely he's probably just waiting on a reup, being that he currently has no active listings- and I'd bet that since he did a sale a week ago folks probably cleaned his ass out, lol!!!. If you have a current order with him and are possibly worried about losing funds, hit the cancel button and just wait til he responds. Truth be told he's one of the only cats on here I order from, true OG in every sense of the word.

He also looks to have just had 2 orders within the last 2 days finalize and rate so I think it's all good.

You don't get to mark a pacakage as in-transit before having the package, and you certainly don't ignore everyone's messages even though we know he's been on. I don't care if he got cleaned out, he shouldn't have sent all previous customers a sale notice and willfully mark the product as in transit if he didn't have it. It's bad business. Sellers are always talking about how annoying it is to have money tied up in escrow, same goes for buyers. If he had just ignored the order and let me cancel it, then I could understand. Shit, if he even responded to a message letting me know what was going on I'd be able to get over it. But when you pay for priority shipping and your package is marked in transit, it should already be on its way and if it's not, you have to have a good reason. Re-up or not, don't sell what you don't have. If this was the case he should have sent messages out telling us there was a delay, or just cancelled the orders.

I could not have said it better myself.  I would have been more than happy if he would have just cancelled the order and let me get on with my business, but marking the package as in transit says that you have dropped the order off at the post office and I should see it in the next few days.  Now it has been over 10 days since the order was placed and I have to sit here with my money tied up because someone cannot either do their job or have the common sense to tell me he cannot fill the order or that he needs more time.  I see vendors put on their pages that they do not like it when people do not finalize their orders and have their money tied up but it happens to customers as well.  Now I have to wait until I get to the resolution center to get my money back.  I should get all my money back due to how many people are having trouble with orders, especially if he doesn't even show his face in the resolution to give an excuse as to why I am sitting here empty handed.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: aqua on August 18, 2012, 08:14 pm
If he simply couldn't fill the order and just needed to re up why wouldn't he message me instead of letting it go to resolve? It doesn't make any sense. My order has already gone to the resolution center so my money is still tied up for another 5 days. I'm asking for a full refund since its obvious that my order was never shipped.

I think the time for wishful thinking is over. Now its just a matter of how big of a loss im going to have to take.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: EpisodeFive on August 18, 2012, 11:20 pm
If he simply couldn't fill the order and just needed to re up why wouldn't he message me instead of letting it go to resolve? It doesn't make any sense. My order has already gone to the resolution center so my money is still tied up for another 5 days. I'm asking for a full refund since its obvious that my order was never shipped.

I think the time for wishful thinking is over. Now its just a matter of how big of a loss im going to have to take.

hopefully not a big one. I think if they get enough resolutions sent in they won't be able to deny that something happened or didn't happen.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: TheFourHorsemen on August 18, 2012, 11:38 pm
If he simply couldn't fill the order and just needed to re up why wouldn't he message me instead of letting it go to resolve? It doesn't make any sense. My order has already gone to the resolution center so my money is still tied up for another 5 days. I'm asking for a full refund since its obvious that my order was never shipped.

I think the time for wishful thinking is over. Now its just a matter of how big of a loss im going to have to take.

hopefully not a big one. I think if they get enough resolutions sent in they won't be able to deny that something happened or didn't happen.

Yep, I am in resolution as well and am asking for 100% refund, there is no reason to not get it all back if enough people go in on the same vendor.  It spells out that something very fishy happened.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: robrob on August 22, 2012, 02:48 am
Anyone come out of the resolution with their money intact ?  Mine is due in 2 days got my fingers crossed.  This has been the worst experience on the road for me....My money has been tied up for several weeks.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: EpisodeFive on August 22, 2012, 04:09 am
nope, still have 2 days left. He hasn't shown up in the resolution center either. I asked for all 100% back, and I believe any less will be a failure on SR's part. This is honestly a joke.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: angelkiller on August 22, 2012, 09:14 pm
3 days left before resolution here.

I think something happened to him. If he was trying to run away with the money, he woudn't have left it in escrow, if he were still around, why would he leave the money in escrow and not ship? Then we'd just resolve and get out money back. And if he were around and ran out, why would he just disappear? It would be so much easier to cancel the orders than it would to go out and try to re-up.

Basically he's gone but didn't take anything. The worst thing that's going to happen is us being inconvenienced by having our money tied up in escrow.

And after seeing all of you having the same problem, I'm going to resolve right now. If you look at his past VICOWATZ has a solid reputation. So clearly something out of the ordinary is happening with him. I wish him the best and maybe try him out another time.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: EpisodeFive on August 23, 2012, 06:29 am
3 days left before resolution here.

I think something happened to him. If he was trying to run away with the money, he woudn't have left it in escrow, if he were still around, why would he leave the money in escrow and not ship? Then we'd just resolve and get out money back. And if he were around and ran out, why would he just disappear? It would be so much easier to cancel the orders than it would to go out and try to re-up.

Basically he's gone but didn't take anything. The worst thing that's going to happen is us being inconvenienced by having our money tied up in escrow.

And after seeing all of you having the same problem, I'm going to resolve right now. If you look at his past VICOWATZ has a solid reputation. So clearly something out of the ordinary is happening with him. I wish him the best and maybe try him out another time.
problem is, that he had been active on the site like right after I posted this thread about all of this. He had been active on the site when I realized my order was taking a while, and he didn't even read the message I sent. This was about a week ago. I don't know why he'd get on and then just not answer or anything.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: robrob on August 23, 2012, 10:04 pm
After All of this time waiting....I get to the end of my resolution time and SR extends it by 2 days.  EXTENDS IT, wtf

This dude hasnt responded to one message,  hasnt logged in for over a week and I am the one that is hurting trying to get my money out of escrow.  With all of the posts about this matter, SR should be content freeing the coins.  Im a patient person but this should not have been extended....anyone else have this happen?
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: aqua on August 24, 2012, 06:15 am
Exact same thing happened to me. Resolution extended by 2 days and then i finally get my money back. I'm soo tired of waiting. Its been almost a month
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: angelkiller on August 24, 2012, 06:24 am
I talked to SR Support and they said they did extend it by two days. So it appears they're on the case.
Quote from: SR Support"
In the RC, any time one party does not respond they are assumed to accept any proposal by the other party. That holds here, and since the orders never went out stats won't be affected.

~SR Support

In the resolution center, set the only option as a 100% refund. I doubt he'll be back in 2 days, so then you'll get your money back. This whole thing has been a pain in the arse, but I think it's coming to an end in two days.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: EpisodeFive on August 25, 2012, 11:58 pm
Got my full refund today.

If anyone from SR staff reads this, thanks for taking care of this for me (and everyone else who had this happen to them).
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: bigcity on August 27, 2012, 12:48 am
The Scam Artist took me for $150, No reply no mail no nothing!!! I only had one transaction so I finalized early thinking a 97 rep rate would be ok... What a piece of work!! If something shows up I will change this comment, for now the only thing to do is hope he is in jail being meeting Buba his new man....
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: TheFourHorsemen on August 31, 2012, 06:57 am
I havent been on this in a while, but I got the same thing, two day extension then 100% refund and nothing done to my stats.  seems fair, obviously something happened to him so whatever, as long as i got my money back.  he didn't have everyone finalize and run off with the money so something happened to him, hope hes not dead i guess.
Title: Re: Vicowatz?
Post by: bigcity on September 03, 2012, 11:21 pm
Vicowatz Logined in Today!!! No email no nothing, probably just taking the last of the stolen bitcoins out of account