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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Fluidx on August 28, 2012, 07:39 pm
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Just wanted to ask if anyone had any speculation as to why the MDMA on silkroad seems to be missing the magic :\ I ordered a good amount from googleyes for a festival. I haven't rolled in about 6 months and was searching for the magic that i had experienced every other time with pills like the white rolex, mercedes, supermans, and diamonds.
I definitely rolled off googleyes stuff but i had no desire to spill my heart out to my friends, and it just seemed as though the MDMA was missing the magic. I gave it to a lot of first timers, who all loved it but I know they did not get the real MDMA experience i am accustomed to..
Anyone have any ideas why this is?!
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You must have forgotten to add the 'Please include magic' in your shipping details, didn't you read his profile?
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It has zero to do with MDMA and everything to do with your brain chemistry. Sorry for the fact you no longer feel the magic, but it happens to individuals and the cause is relatively unknown.
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The thing is that I have only rolled about 5 times in my life. All were actually over a year before trying this product. I gave this product to about 10 friends who all rolled with me, about half of them first timers. None of them were spilling their hearts out, or having the best experience of their life, which is what happened to me every other time i rolled. Yes, everyone had owl eyes and was rolling but they did not experience the mind blowing euphoria I was expecting.
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I stole all da magic. I will be selling it next week in my rainbow moonrocks.
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Googleyed*
I bought 10 grams of his domestic MDMA and I thought it was fucking awesome, better than Pfandleiher's... and I have a bit of a tolerance to mdma, been going to too many electronic concerts this past year....
I had friends telling me they hadn't had shit that good in years.... Not to mention it smelled and tasted just like mdma should...
Not sure what to tell you man.
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How much are you dosing slipknot? I gave the first timers 100mg, myself 135mg + 60mg booster. Others 120mg. Also, did you / people you gave it to experience eye wiggles? I did not. Also, my bag was about half powder, half crystals. Maybe his sellers are cutting the crystals with this powder because i got rid of all that and am saving the crystals.
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Just wanted to ask if anyone had any speculation as to why the MDMA on silkroad seems to be missing the magic :\ I ordered a good amount from googleyes for a festival. I haven't rolled in about 6 months and was searching for the magic that i had experienced every other time with pills like the white rolex, mercedes, supermans, and diamonds.
I definitely rolled off googleyes stuff but i had no desire to spill my heart out to my friends, and it just seemed as though the MDMA was missing the magic. I gave it to a lot of first timers, who all loved it but I know they did not get the real MDMA experience i am accustomed to..
Anyone have any ideas why this is?!
All jokes aside, I know exactly where you are coming from Fluidx. I'm in a similar boat as you: have done ecstasy 4 times in my life prior to SR and most recently about 2 years ago. So definitely did not lose the magic. I started buying MDMA from SR and got a few sample 1g batches from a few of the top vendors here (I won't go into details about which ones). Had similar experience to yours: I felt "high" and somewhat "smacky" but they all lacked the empathy and love that is so typical of the old school rolls from back in the 90's. Needless to say I was disappointed. I got some of the same feedback about losing the magic or people claiming that the stuff is actually FIRE. Then again, good MDMA has been hard to find for many years so without any offense to some members here, there's a good chance many of them never actually had the amazing stuff from back in the 90's. So take the boards with a grain of salt.
On the other hand I've recently had a couple of pills from SR and from a festival that just blew my socks off. So I believe you are totally right - there's something missing from the crystal being sold here. I had some of the Sonics from Streetpharmacy a few weeks ago and even though they are weak (took 3 throughout the night at a festival) they were total and pure bliss. I wanted to hug everyone, the world felt perfect and the music was beautiful. Everyone was my best friend and no barriers existed anymore. I was happier than I had been in ages. That's what I remember about the real ecstasy from back in the day. So my decision has been to stock up on pills rather than crystal: i now have some blue defqon's, armani exchanges and some speakers for my enjoyment.
I know that technically there is no difference between pills and crystal unless the pills are adulterated (which I think the one's here are probably not) and I'm not trying to get into a chemical discussion, but for me personally pills work magic and the molly does not. So to each his own. I would encourage you to give some of the pills here on SR a try and see if these work better for you.
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Just wanted to ask if anyone had any speculation as to why the MDMA on silkroad seems to be missing the magic :\ I ordered a good amount from googleyes for a festival. I haven't rolled in about 6 months and was searching for the magic that i had experienced every other time with pills like the white rolex, mercedes, supermans, and diamonds.
I definitely rolled off googleyes stuff but i had no desire to spill my heart out to my friends, and it just seemed as though the MDMA was missing the magic. I gave it to a lot of first timers, who all loved it but I know they did not get the real MDMA experience i am accustomed to..
Anyone have any ideas why this is?!
All jokes aside, I know exactly where you are coming from Fluidx. I'm in a similar boat as you: have done ecstasy 4 times in my life prior to SR and most recently about 2 years ago. So definitely did not lose the magic. I started buying MDMA from SR and got a few sample 1g batches from a few of the top vendors here (I won't go into details about which ones). Had similar experience to yours: I felt "high" and somewhat "smacky" but they all lacked the empathy and love that is so typical of the old school rolls from back in the 90's. Needless to say I was disappointed. I got some of the same feedback about losing the magic or people claiming that the stuff is actually FIRE. Then again, good MDMA has been hard to find for many years so without any offense to some members here, there's a good chance many of them never actually had the amazing stuff from back in the 90's. So take the boards with a grain of salt.
On the other hand I've recently had a couple of pills from SR and from a festival that just blew my socks off. So I believe you are totally right - there's something missing from the crystal being sold here. I had some of the Sonics from Streetpharmacy a few weeks ago and even though they are weak (took 3 throughout the night at a festival) they were total and pure bliss. I wanted to hug everyone, the world felt perfect and the music was beautiful. Everyone was my best friend and no barriers existed anymore. I was happier than I had been in ages. That's what I remember about the real ecstasy from back in the day. So my decision has been to stock up on pills rather than crystal: i now have some blue defqon's, armani exchanges and some speakers for my enjoyment.
I know that technically there is no difference between pills and crystal unless the pills are adulterated (which I think the one's here are probably not) and I'm not trying to get into a chemical discussion, but for me personally pills work magic and the molly does not. So to each his own. I would encourage you to give some of the pills here on SR a try and see if these work better for you.
I'll second this, I'm another member who had the experience of "real" E in the 90's, have gotten crystal from several top vendors and rolled, but it lacked all the lovey/empathy style feelings that made X magical. then i purchased some red rockstar x pills and had the entire old 90's Xperience, w/love empathy and positive feelings. I don't think the vendors are selling anything other than what they claim, but there is definitely some difference between the crystal MDMA roll and the pill roll, I'll be sticking to pills from here on out i just hope we start to see some of them domestic.
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Isn't it more likely that there is something IN the pill rather then something is missing from the crystal? I am quite new to mdma in general so maybe I am speaking for a point of ignorance but it seems like all the "real classic mdma rolls" described in this thread have come from pills..So whats in the pill? ???
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I agree. I'm thinking all these people that are describing it as fire, never actually got to try the good stuff. The crystal is definitely missing all the lovey dovey feeling and the incredible euphoria and state of mind. I would have to agree that the pills have something that the crystal is missing. I would love to know what this is so that I can add it to my crystal. Any ideas? I tried adding caffeine which i know a lot of pills contain but that didn't do it.
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I'm with ya brother. I had the exact same experience too. I've been doing a lot of research and here is my theory: With increasing regulation and crackdowns on safrole production (the main precursor in MDMA production) from sassafras trees, producers are starting to attempt to extract it from lesser regulated plants like Star Anise and other species of the Illicium genus. The problem is that along with some amount of safrole they are also extracting large amounts of anethol which is not present in sassafras and is difficult to seperate from the safrole. This anethol, when put through the usual MDMA synthesis process, creates a compound called PMA which is similar to MDMA in its effects but is much more toxic. I think this is what might be causing this "magic-less" MDMA. Again, this is just my theory and maybe wrong but I certainly don't buy the notion that MDMA completely loses its empathy and euphoria after taking it a few times.
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Try one of Beeemo's pills when you feel your tolerance is low enough again.
Trust me.
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I agree. I'm thinking all these people that are describing it as fire, never actually got to try the good stuff. The crystal is definitely missing all the lovey dovey feeling and the incredible euphoria and state of mind. I would have to agree that the pills have something that the crystal is missing. I would love to know what this is so that I can add it to my crystal. Any ideas? I tried adding caffeine which i know a lot of pills contain but that didn't do it.
I think that's the million $$ question. It's hard to say- back in the day pills used to be mixed with a number of different things: what made ecstasy great was also probably its downfall in the long term. In the beginning adulterants used actually added to the experience and were generally harmless (i.e. the MDMA/MDA mixed rolls). But I think over time competition on price point / the short availability of sassafras and emergence of cheaper adulterant alternatives (PMA/piperazines/amphetamine) reduced the quality of ecstasy. I'm no chemist and have no idea at the end of the day what my pills were made out of in the 90's. But one thing is obvious which is much more objective: take a look at raves nowadays vs the ones back in the 90's. Back then people were hugging, running around, kissing and making out everywhere, massage trains, group hugs...etc.etc....you dont see that anymore at raves. Rather people that seem a bit cracked out and out of it (they are "rolling"). And one main reason in my opinion is because the ecstasy/MDMA nowadays lacks the empathy/love of the rolls back in the day.
It is possible that the stuff we all remember from the 90's was never the real pure stuff. Maybe pure MDMA is not even that exciting. But in that case WHO THE HELL CARES? Bring back the amazing stuff regardless of what it was made of. The only reason pure MDMA crystal has become so popular nowadays is because pills are increasingly adulterated with dangerous junk like pipes that people have been dying from (especially in the US).
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google eyes shit is fire. i got 5g recently and nomed just 50 mgs and felt that nice empathy my eyes felt like they were just gonna start wiggling very nice product fr sure and i rolled 2 days before that dose.
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Well it would be awesome if you could reply once you actually eat a good dose and let me know if it wasn't just a placebo and you got mad eye wiggles and euphoria. I'm talking the kind where you have the desire to spill your heart out to or massage a stranger you just met! If anyone had the White Rolex, Superman, Buddah, Diamond, and Mercedes set you know what i'm talking about!
I will check out Bee's pills next though.
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I concur with you guys.
I had the PRIVILEGE of trying a really great pill one time in my life and I've been buying MDMA here seeking that experience, but not quite finding it.
Who are you guys buying your awesome pills from? Are you in the U.S.?
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my try preloading with some PIRACETAM
its a safe nootropic supposedly a great potentiator of drugs
google: piracetam mdma
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I am a very experienced and adept user of MDMA. I have used it for over 15 years and never really over done it, that is the key.
You need to find your dose, not enough can be underwhelming and too much leaves you smacked out on the couch and wondering where you have been for the last hour or two. If you have too much you can't really think or see straight enough to enjoy the empathogenic effects.
Most of the time the gear on here is fantastic... There is no questioning that. If you are used to taking pills with a good dose of MDMA and also 200mg of caffeine or AMP then you will find crystal a little more lethargic. This is the way it is supposed to be. You still can't go to sleep in a hurry so it is obviously stimulating, just not to the level you are used to.
The thing I have learnt ( and many of you will disagree with me on this) is that pills with 120mg will hit far harder and with more energy than 150mg or more of crystal. Even if the pills have been lab tested and show only MDMA there seems to be something about the way you absorb pills vs crystal.
I recently re-learnt this with the defqons. 1 defqon lasted for 4-5 hours and there was no getting tired in a hurry. I would dose 200 - 220mg of crystal (bumps being in the first 1.5 hours) in that time and feel less energetic and in some ways less euphoric.
Anyway, if Googleyed's gear is anywhere near as good as Mitanox/Ivory/Juergen/SKYY etc it is time to look in the mirror!
N.B Racetams do help back bring the magic, I wouldn't bother taking them right before you drop though. Use them as a daily supplement for a while.
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Not the MD mate. Its how much you have taken it. Or how often you take it. Ive done it so much that ive lost the love and empathy and the ''good'' feeling when taking MD, i only get the spaciness now. But that's because i abused it too much. So speaking realistically its not the vendor. If it was he would not still be selling it would he? Try taking a break from MD for a while and any other drugs. Try MD about 2 months later and see how you feel
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I did take a break from drugs before indulging in these new crystals! It was over a year. The fact of the matter is, they don't make it like they used to :\ I will try piracetam next time though!
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Never had the good stuff my ass... I would say that pills generally fuck me up more than crystal, yet I prefer the feeling I get from popping some powdered crystal pills. Also, you're never going to get that feeling of your first roll back... it'll still be good, just never that good...
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This thread made me curious about trying a pressed pill vs capsule experiment. How would I go about pressing my own (what to press with/what is used as a filler to keep it together)? I've seen expensive as shit pressers and not sure if I trust single pill $10-20 ones online. I do wonder however what people use as filler.
By pressing my own I can know exactly how much is pressed same as how much I put in a capsule. I was previously curious about the absorption rate affecting the roll and this thread made sense to me.
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Like i said, FIRST TIMERS are not getting that AMAZING i love everyone, complete euphoria, feeling from the crystal MDMA. Not just talking about myself.
Let me know you're findings if you press a pill from the crystal!
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Like i said, FIRST TIMERS are not getting that AMAZING i love everyone, complete euphoria, feeling from the crystal MDMA. Not just talking about myself.
Let me know you're findings if you press a pill from the crystal!
Yes, i'm also wondering if it has something to do with rate of absorbtion from pill vs crystal "quick release" into system.
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Like i said, FIRST TIMERS are not getting that AMAZING i love everyone, complete euphoria, feeling from the crystal MDMA. Not just talking about myself.
Let me know you're findings if you press a pill from the crystal!
I have GREAT reason to believe Beeemo is a former vendor using a different name. Nothing shady, honestly no idea why they got a new account.
Anyways. My first time was with Beeemo's first account, and I was almost overwhelmed with the love and euphoria and joy I had in my heart.
Beeemo's stuff was exactly the same.