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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: SpiceTrader on June 21, 2012, 10:38 am
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Are heroin overdose always instant? I think ive taken too much, fighting to stay awake, been vomiting alot, i can walk around and can still type, am i just being paranoid?
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If you are still typing then you should be ok. Don't sit down. Try to stay away and keep breathing!!! If you fall asleep too high you could choke on your own saliva, vomit, or just stop breathing.
stay concious for a while.
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vomiting is a natural reaction for many h users, especially for new ones.
sounds like you're a new one (?), but doesn't matter, stay awake and concentrate on breathing if it's getting to hard, try to get someone you know, that he/she can look after you.
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Shit Spicey, didn't realise you we're that hardcore!!!
How much did you jack in one go amigo? And did you re-boost?
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Who are you kidding, you're going to die and you know it. Sleep well my friend, because you will not be waking up. Bwahahah! >:D
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Steady on Mr Oak... Our friend Spicey is cutting his teeth with regards to psychoactive substances... Lets leave the demon head fucks for when he jumps on here running a sherm stick!
Or MXE!!!
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Steady on Mr Oak... Our friend Spicey is cutting his teeth with regards to psychoactive substances... Lets leave the demon head fucks for when he jumps on here running a sherm stick!
Or MXE!!!
Exactly! Give the kid a break, he is a good contributor to this community and a valued customer of ours.
Heroin is a very dangerous drug to experiment with and the possibility of "over doing" it is quite easy - even career junkies of many years have made the mistake.
It is quite normal to vomit and feel sleep however you can suddenly fall into the "on the nod" state which can then cause CNS depression.
If you REALLY think you had too much - get help.
Sometimes, it's just not worth the risk...
Take care my friend,
Matrix 8)
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I've tried many subatances and into my middle age, heroin still scares my shitless...
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Vomiting is your brain's way of telling your body you have had too much. An overdose is instant but you can die from respiratory depression or choking on your vomit like mentioned.
Stay upright, don't lay down! Call a friend if you have one close by or even go outside and sit upright, I know it's cold outside but that might help you
Hopefully happy nodding mate
Trailer is right. Try to stay awake and upright and get some help...
Please report back once everything is OK.
We are a little worried mate...
Matrix 8)
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Please report back once everything is OK.
We are a little worried mate...
Matrix 8)
He is a bit of a quirky little shit...
OK... who's gonna make a guess at the level of constipation Spicey's gonna be at tomorrow after brekky? Duck egg or Ostrich egg? House Brick? Small european car?
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I suspect you're feeling a lot better now that you've had a few hours. (As a couple people have said, if you can still type you aren't overdosing. It sounds like you had a really strong nod combined with opiate nausea, which can definitely be a scary experience if you're alone when you dose. In the future you may want to have a mate around (if that's possible) when you try something like H. And if you're really concerned don't waste time on a forum asking questions about overdoses. By the time we figured out you had too much chances are you wouldn't be able to call 911 to get help.
Anyway, let us know you're all right and in the future try to be careful with your opiate dosing. You can always take more, but you can never take less.
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lol i hope this guy is okay.. :o
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I've tried many subatances and into my middle age, heroin still scares my shitless...
Seriously when I think of Heroin I just think of Heaven but heaven right now is in LSD land.
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Are heroin overdose always instant? I think ive taken too much, fighting to stay awake, been vomiting alot, i can walk around and can still type, am i just being paranoid?
if you would be overdosing you would be unconscious and may ask how much you IV/snorted/smoked? I do heroin from time to time but only for meth comedowns and for getting to sleep so that state is perfect for me xD
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Responsibility and Moderation are two very important keys to life. With that being said, I don't sympathize with you at all. Be more careful and mature about the drugs you are using next time. You can always take more but you can never take less, so start LOW like you should have done in the first place.
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lol i hope this guy is okay.. :o
Ikr....... :o
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Who are you kidding, you're going to die and you know it. Sleep well my friend, because you will not be waking up. Bwahahah! >:D
LOl, damn Gary, aren't you just Mr. Inspirational? Aww, fuck him, he'll be fine... Just roll him over on his side and let him sleep! ;)
Seriously though, for anyone having little or no experience in the dope game:
If you think you might have overdosed, go to or call a goddamned DOCTOR.
If you're not comfortable doing that, or are too worried about sounding a false alarm, then call someone who is actually in a position to HELP YOU, and stop wasting time waiting for replies from people on a MESSAGE BOARD, who can offer you NO ASSISTANCE at all!
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If you overdosed you wouldn't be able to sit there and type out a forum post clearly and coherently and tell us you think you might have overdosed. You were just high. And honestly if you felt the need to come on here and post that you might have overdosed instead of actually seeking help you should probably consider not doing heroin again. I was a heroin addict for many years and lost 3 of my brothers to heroin overdose so I take it very seriously but if you are going to be that irresponsible you shouldn't be doing it.
Wise words mate, this is real advice dished out by someone with real experience.
Listen to dondada!
Matrix 8)
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If you overdosed you wouldn't be able to sit there and type out a forum post clearly and coherently and tell us you think you might have overdosed. You were just high. And honestly if you felt the need to come on here and post that you might have overdosed instead of actually seeking help you should probably consider not doing heroin again. I was a heroin addict for many years and lost 3 of my brothers to heroin overdose so I take it very seriously but if you are going to be that irresponsible you shouldn't be doing it.
Yeah i totally agree and am taking on board what your saying, i was just freaking out , sweating , vomiting , struggling to stay awake, i think i just wanted some reassurance , and if i had read your message dondada , before turning my computer off, i would of felt alot better, i kinda thought if i was coherent enough to type that i was probably going to be ok, i now have a HUGE RESPECT for this drug and wish id shown it the respect it was due in the first place...
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Who are you kidding, you're going to die and you know it. Sleep well my friend, because you will not be waking up. Bwahahah! >:D
LOl, damn Gary, aren't you just Mr. Inspirational? Aww, fuck him, he'll be fine... Just roll him over on his side and let him sleep! ;)
Seriously though, for anyone having little or no experience in the dope game:
If you think you might have overdosed, go to or call a goddamned DOCTOR.
If you're not comfortable doing that, or are too worried about sounding a false alarm, then call someone who is actually in a position to HELP YOU, and stop wasting time waiting for replies from people on a MESSAGE BOARD, who can offer you NO ASSISTANCE at all!
If he's going to fuck around with something as hard as Heroin without having a back-up plan then why should I care? The freaking dolt doesn't even know if he's overdosing or not, so as far as I'm concerned it would be one less idiot in the world. I have absolutely no problem with opiates under the right circumstances and willpower, but this cretin might as well be a junkie jackass from what I gather. It disgusts me. >:(
But hey, it's not all bad. At least the nitwit learned a lesson right?
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Shit Spicey, didn't realise you we're that hardcore!!!
How much did you jack in one go amigo? And did you re-boost?
I think that was my problem, i had a really small dose to begin with , didnt really feel much so i basically doubled or tripled the original dose, such a rookie mistake i know, feel like the boy who cried wolf, should of just ate some concrete , spewed it up haha and got on with it.... In another way im glad this happened because i REALLY dont feel like using anymore, think its going down the toilet.....
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Who are you kidding, you're going to die and you know it. Sleep well my friend, because you will not be waking up. Bwahahah! >:D
LOl, damn Gary, aren't you just Mr. Inspirational? Aww, fuck him, he'll be fine... Just roll him over on his side and let him sleep! ;)
Seriously though, for anyone having little or no experience in the dope game:
If you think you might have overdosed, go to or call a goddamned DOCTOR.
If you're not comfortable doing that, or are too worried about sounding a false alarm, then call someone who is actually in a position to HELP YOU, and stop wasting time waiting for replies from people on a MESSAGE BOARD, who can offer you NO ASSISTANCE at all!
If he's going to fuck around with something as hard as Heroin without having a back-up plan then why should I care? The freaking dolt doesn't even know if he's overdosing or not, so as far as I'm concerned it would be one less idiot in the world. I have absolutely no problem with opiates under the right circumstances and willpower, but this cretin might as well be a junkie jackass from what I gather. It disgusts me. >:(
But hey, it's not all bad. At least the nitwit learned a lesson right?
Hey buddy , try getting some good info whilst you can barely keep your eyes open, even sober try and find some info on wether or not an IV overdose has an instantaneous effect or cumulative over a few hours, i couldnt find one piece of information that could put me at peace.... The SR thread was a last resort..... Your lack of understanding really shits me buddy, like youve never overestimated anything before in your life? Im happy to admit that it was a completely rookie move on my behalf, but dont fucking talk about me like im a piece of dirt fuckwit, i guarantee you wouldnt say it to my face mate....
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Hey buddy , try getting some good info whilst you can barely keep your eyes open, even sober try and find some info on wether or not an IV overdose has an instantaneous effect or cumulative over a few hours, i couldnt find one piece of information that could put me at peace.... The SR thread was a last resort..... Your lack of understanding really shits me buddy, like youve never overestimated anything before in your life? Im happy to admit that it was a completely rookie move on my behalf, but dont fucking talk about me like im a piece of dirt fuckwit, i guarantee you wouldnt say it to my face mate....
personally, I'm glad you didnt actually OD and die :) we've all been there. I remember when i was younger and smoked a fuck load of weed and thought i was gunna die ::)
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Vomiting is your brain's way of telling your body you have had too much. An overdose is instant but you can die from respiratory depression or choking on your vomit like mentioned.
Stay upright, don't lay down! Call a friend if you have one close by or even go outside and sit upright, I know it's cold outside but that might help you
Hopefully happy nodding mate
Trailer is right. Try to stay awake and upright and get some help...
Please report back once everything is OK.
We are a little worried mate...
Matrix 8)
All good Matrix, BIG lesson learnt, the concern from you Jim and the others really puts me in a good place, thanks guys, i just feel stupid and have some majorly dented pride... I had my girl friend with me , but stupidly didnt tell her what in particular i was taking, i nonchalantly just said " ah yeah i might be a little drowsy and un/talkative" 3 hours later of me vomiting and nodding like a bitch, REALLY having to concentrate on my breathing, had me just a little worried.. I think if i had seen your guys posts earlier , i would of calmed the fuck down... Ohwell missed that boat.. The thing is , i didnt find any of it particularly pleasurable like i was lead to believe, like i was sedated as fuck, but its not like all the cares in the world just floated away...? This is probably because i thought i had ODed though right?
But thanks again for all the kind words from everyone...
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Use your brain!
Don't take Heroin
That's the drug of the loosers. No life!
This is the only thing i wouldn't see in SR! Yes !
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Shit Spicey, didn't realise you we're that hardcore!!!
How much did you jack in one go amigo? And did you re-boost?
First shot was 45mg second was around .1 . This was psilos gear BTW and from what ive read isnt the most potent gear on SR, so everyone just be careful estimating doses, i fucked it up well and truly
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Who are you kidding, you're going to die and you know it. Sleep well my friend, because you will not be waking up. Bwahahah! >:D
LOl, damn Gary, aren't you just Mr. Inspirational? Aww, fuck him, he'll be fine... Just roll him over on his side and let him sleep! ;)
Seriously though, for anyone having little or no experience in the dope game:
If you think you might have overdosed, go to or call a goddamned DOCTOR.
If you're not comfortable doing that, or are too worried about sounding a false alarm, then call someone who is actually in a position to HELP YOU, and stop wasting time waiting for replies from people on a MESSAGE BOARD, who can offer you NO ASSISTANCE at all!
If he's going to fuck around with something as hard as Heroin without having a back-up plan then why should I care? The freaking dolt doesn't even know if he's overdosing or not, so as far as I'm concerned it would be one less idiot in the world. I have absolutely no problem with opiates under the right circumstances and willpower, but this cretin might as well be a junkie jackass from what I gather. It disgusts me. >:(
But hey, it's not all bad. At least the nitwit learned a lesson right?
Hey buddy , try getting some good info whilst you can barely keep your eyes open, even sober try and find some info on wether or not an IV overdose has an instantaneous effect or cumulative over a few hours, i couldnt find one piece of information that could put me at peace.... The SR thread was a last resort..... Your lack of understanding really shits me buddy, like youve never overestimated anything before in your life? Im happy to admit that it was a completely rookie move on my behalf, but dont fucking talk about me like im a piece of dirt fuckwit, i guarantee you wouldnt say it to my face mate....
Um, it's called research before hand? ???
Your first mistake was shooting up with no experienced supervision, that's bad. M'kay? Second mistake you came online, aka troll territory, rather than seek legitimate medical help. Third, you have no Naloxone in the event you actually do overdose. Your lack of understanding the danger you put yourself in shocks me, do you not value your life at all? Last of all are you really going to be foolish enough to believe I'd ever have any association with you outside of the Tor network you git? You'd have to be a dunce to reveal genuine information on here to settle an argument online. But let's say we ever did come face to face outside of this virtual realm, I'd have no trouble trouncing your ass for being the scum you are. You can retort if you want tough guy, but it won't mean shit just so you understand. ;D
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Not into forum arguments totes soz big buddy
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*gets bowl of popcorn*
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*gets bowl of popcorn*
Hahaha, yeah totally...
So not up for the 12 page your a dumb cunt argument back and forth thread, bit of a cliche really....
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I'd hate to see anybody else die of an overdose because it's preventable. Nobody deserves too especially all the younger people that are dying from heroin nowadays. It breaks my heart.
This is the first drug ive ever taken, that i would quite simply never recommend to anyone...
The high aint worth risk, by a long way....
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*gets bowl of popcorn*
It does my heart good to put a stooge in his place. Glad to have entertained. ;)
I'd hate to see anybody else die of an overdose because it's preventable. Nobody deserves too especially all the younger people that are dying from heroin nowadays. It breaks my heart.
Oh come on, let's be realistic here. The world's population is high enough as it is, can't you at least be happy that Social Darwinism still manages to find a home in our comfortable modern society? :-\
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Your a fucking idiot, did you not read dondadas earlier posts? And your saying shit like that! Have some fucking consideration for other peoples feelings idiot. No ones impressed with your mindless provocation of people, especially ones who have family that have DIED. Show some respect you immature fool...
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Use your brain!
Don't take Heroin
That's the drug of the loosers. No life!
This is the only thing i wouldn't see in SR! Yes !
I'm guessing English isn't your native language, so... the word is spelled "l-o-s-e-r-s",
not "l-o-o-s-e-r-s".
But please enlighten me: what drugs do "winers" take? I sure don't want to be a "l-o-o-s-e-r".
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this has happened to me before as well. i have only done heroin once (well .5g in 2 days) and i had no idea when to stop and all of a sudden i could barely stand, or breath. i really had to focus on my breathing. it was an extremely hard chore to stay awake. the only thing i managed to do is call my neighbor to look after me. luckily his grandma had an oxygen tank and mask. i believe it saved my life and if i would have fallen asleep i would of died. because of this incident i will never touch heroin again. i value my life so much and will never jeopardize my well being like that again. at least you learned your lesson bro. glad your still with us. if you ever do heroin again dont do IV its just not smart. if i EVER decide to touch heroin again im gonna get #3 and smoke it
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Your a fucking idiot, did you not read dondadas earlier posts? And your saying shit like that! Have some fucking consideration for other peoples feelings idiot. No ones impressed with your mindless provocation of people, especially ones who have family that have DIED. Show some respect you immature fool...
Oh, so you do intend to argue further? Yay! ^-^
So are you referring to his earlier post? I'm not sure because you mentioned he's made more...Well anyways I have indeed if you were. :P While it's certainly a tragedy to lose friends and loved ones to drugs, I feel no remorse for them whatsoever. Sorry, but I'm a cold apathetic narcissist and quite frankly I'm not too enthusiastic about giving a shit anytime soon. They took their own lives by being careless with a humorless drug, tough break. As far as I'm concerned the current generation is comprised of knuckle-dragging Neanderthals with no purpose other than to consume, entertain, and reproduce. People as a whole are rotten and misinformed, comfortable living in their own cesspool with no motivation to improve.
In the words of my idol, "I see all this potential, and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off."
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If you IVd, I'd recommend you eat a fistful of vitamin C as soon as you can.
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this has happened to me before as well. i have only done heroin once (well .5g in 2 days) and i had no idea when to stop and all of a sudden i could barely stand, or breath. i really had to focus on my breathing. it was an extremely hard chore to stay awake. the only thing i managed to do is call my neighbor to look after me. luckily his grandma had an oxygen tank and mask. i believe it saved my life and if i would have fallen asleep i would of died. because of this incident i will never touch heroin again. i value my life so much and will never jeopardize my well being like that again. at least you learned your lesson bro. glad your still with us. if you ever do heroin again dont do IV its just not smart. if i EVER decide to touch heroin again im gonna get #3 and smoke it
Yeah completely, worst feeling....
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In my experience when you actually overdose and not just overdose where you are still conscious/puking/off balance/hard breathing. You won't even know it and just nod out and be totally unresponsive besides maybe a few grunts, but definitely not conscious enough to think or know what is happening. You will then stop breathing within a few minutes and start to lose coloration turning very white with a blue tinge around your lips. It is a quick process, and an ambulance should be called immediatly once someone isn't responsive and is turning colors, or if you are close to a hospital or live in a big city where it takes 30 minutes to even talk to a 911 operator just drive as fast as you can to the hospital and if you see a cop stop them, so they can drive.
I have witnessed various stages of overdoses, and when they are really serious you don't have much time. I witnessed my friend die in front of me because I tried slapping, mouth to mouth, water, and whatever else I could for 10 minutes before I called an ambulance. Believe me you don't want to feel the remorse and regret that comes after watching your friend die and knowing you could of saved him.
If did too much and are on a slight overdose, like puking and nodding out a lot try to get cold water and drink it, don't eat in case you nod out and choke. Try to keep walking around, maybe put your head in the freezer (cold air feels good and makes you feel more safe) Have someone to talk to or ask someone to come over, so when you nod out they can get you out of it. Don't ever lay down... Ever. I also wouldn't smoke a cigarette or weed it seems to progress the high, and that is the last thing you want.
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You definitely weren't ODing, Just overdid it and sounds like what a lot of people get when they first use or happen upon gear that is a lot stronger than they're used to.
I would however advise that if your getting bang into it or even if you just have people around who pin it I would go to your local substance missuse service and get some nalaxone training.
Its not rocket science and they will give you a nalaxone pack with everything you need in the event that the worst does happen. Dont feel bad asking for this training as it could really pay off one day and save someone from death and save their family and loved ones from going through hell.
All the best.
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I once had to have my friends take me outside and throw me in the snow. Just before losing conciousness I was having auditory halucinations, hearing people say my name and say things like "hey!" and "you!". No one was in the room who could have said those things.
When my friends came home they saw me struggling to breath with purple lips and they knew what to do. They saved my life probably.
The junk was cut with something crazy I think because it couldn't have been that cheap and that strong.
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I once had to have my friends take me outside and throw me in the snow. Just before losing conciousness I was having auditory halucinations, hearing people say my name and say things like "hey!" and "you!". No one was in the room who could have said those things.
When my friends came home they saw me struggling to breath with purple lips and they knew what to do. They saved my life probably.
The junk was cut with something crazy I think because it couldn't have been that cheap and that strong.
Just to let everyone know: throwing people into snow, bathtubs full of cold water, etc. is not an effective way of dealing with an actual heroin overdose. Cold will awaken someone who is nodding really hard but it won't do anything to help someone who has lost consciousness or whose breathing is actually impaired. And while we're on the subject, shooting someone up with speed won't help them in the case of a heroin OD either. Methamphetamine and amphetamines increase your heart rate but do very little to your breathing: opiates can slow your breathing but don't do much to your heart rate. Shooting an ODing junkie with crystal will, at best, lead to shallow breathing and tachycardia. Naloxone is the only thing that can reverse an opiate overdose: home remedies are likely to cause more problems than they solve.
As far as cheap strong gear goes, I wonder how well the H was cut? I've had hot spots in bundles before: snorting one bag would barely get me feeling it while one line from another bag would have me nodding like Layne Staley.
I just lost a good friend to heroin a couple weeks ago. If you're going to use, stay smart and stay safe.