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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: foxymeow on December 10, 2011, 05:54 pm

Title: 25I-NBOme on blotter?
Post by: foxymeow on December 10, 2011, 05:54 pm
Hey guys,

I just ordered 5g of 25I-NBOme from my supplier in China and since the dose is 500mcg the only logical thing to do seems to put it on paper. How would I go about doing that? Where can I buy the correct paper...or even paper with designs on it.

I am leaving for Christmas Break so I won't be able to get fancy paper till I get back. Is their a ghetto way to do it. Or maybe even something I can buy off Amazon to use as paper even if its not perfect.

Thanks

Foxy Out  8)

PS: I just bought some blotter from blotterart.com
http://blotterart.com/delicabylucifer.aspx

I got 2 sheets of this one of an anime chick getting tentacle raped :PPPP I literally saw it and I'm like okay...I'm buying this.

Now how do I put the chem on the paper when i get it.
Title: Re: 25I-NBOme on blotter?
Post by: TravellingWithoutMoving on December 10, 2011, 09:24 pm
...i would say designer 'mr lucifer' there has some serious personal issues to deal with.
 :o
Title: Re: 25I-NBOme on blotter?
Post by: foxymeow on December 11, 2011, 01:05 am
...i would say designer 'mr lucifer' there has some serious personal issues to deal with.
 :o

You have to admit that is pretty fucking awesome though. I mean what is more legit than tentacle rape!!!!

I hope to maybe sell sheets or half sheet on SR for a sweet price...maybe $175!

Title: Re: 25I-NBOme on blotter?
Post by: UeXtation on December 12, 2011, 02:35 am
You also need them to be HPBCD-complexed to make them effective at the dose you mention.
Title: Re: 25I-NBOme on blotter?
Post by: foxymeow on December 12, 2011, 06:26 am
You also need them to be HPBCD-complexed to make them effective at the dose you mention.


As far as I know HPBCD only makes them more active through ingestion. Without HPBCD they are still active sublingually.

This is what I got off reddit

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All right. What you need to do is again, figure out how much liquid your blotter can absorb. I'm assuming you have lots of blotter. Presumably at least two ten packs. (2000 hits) I'm also assuming you have freebase NBOMe. If you have the salt, you need to warm up the water/alcohol before you mix and you do not need HPBCD as far as I know.
Get a pyrex or similar pan.
Get one gram of your NBOMe (complexed with HPBCD at 1NBOMe 1:8 HPBCD)*** and divvy it up into a solution of ~90% purity isopropyl alcohol or perhaps some high proof everclear would work just as well, where 1/2000 of your solution corresponds to ~500μg.
NOTE: You need to know how much liquid you need for your blotter in order to do this accurately. Different blotter absorbs differently. (In my experience it's about 2ml per square.) You also need to be able to measure this liquid.
Once you've done this, get your pyrex pan with enough solution for ~10 sheets and dip them evenly, raise then out and let excess solution drip out. Then you set them to dry on tinfoil etc. Avoid direct light during drying. It shouldn't take long due to the alcohol evaporating quickly.
If you've measured correctly you shouldn't have much left in the pan. What is left should be collected for your own personal use--do not use it again. It's going to be very concentrated.
If you want to do small runs like two or three shits measure the amount of liquid and do it that way. Ie, 500mg would be 1000hits, so you want a solution of alcohol and NBOMe where 1/1000 of the solution would be 500mcg.
WARNING: 1# wear gloves.
WARNING: 2# do a small run with one sheet first--or even half a sheet. For example, 50mg/500mcg = 100 doses so dissolve 50mg into a solution of appropriate volume.
*** This may or may not be necessary when laying only a little bit, but with a lot your job will be easier doing this. It will work without it, but you'll have to do many, many applications and the 'dip' method really wont work. IE you'll have to used a syringe.

He PMed me and told me that 1.5mg (3 hits) worked perfectly.

Nevertheless, I just put an add up for HPBCD on some B2B websites for the future to make it better. However, that probably won't be all done till january (have to find a vendor that without a ridiculous MOQ, have to negotiate, have to ship it, etc etc). So I think I will just stick with this for now. HPBCD has been mentioned a couple times to increase effectiveness but no one has said that it is required. I did some research and an erowid report says, http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=88880

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Preparation of substance for buccal/sublingual route of administration: The hydrochloride salt of 25C-NBOMe (6 mg) was dissolved in 105 microliters of methanol, after which 10 ul was spotted onto a blotter paper hole punch and dried, leaving approximately 600 ug of dried 25C-NBOMe adsorbed to the blot. At time zero, one blot was tucked in between the gum and the cheek and allowed to absorb for ~20 minutes before chewing the blot and discarding it's remains. During this time swallowing was kept to a minimum and no water was drunk. 

I think I should be fine.
Title: Re: 25I-NBOme on blotter?
Post by: monolingual on December 12, 2011, 08:01 am
As far as I understand, 25I is hydrophobic, which means that it's not terribly soluble in water - you know, what your body is largely comprised of. You'll notice that they don't instruct you to dissolve anything in water. Absorbing the chemical is the other half of the equation - the HPBCD makes it less hydrophobic, and thus, more easily absorbable via the buccal route; this means a lower effective dose, which means you can sell a more effective product at a lower cost (since you'll be using less per dose).
Title: Re: 25I-NBOme on blotter?
Post by: foxymeow on December 12, 2011, 02:07 pm
As far as I understand, 25I is hydrophobic, which means that it's not terribly soluble in water - you know, what your body is largely comprised of. You'll notice that they don't instruct you to dissolve anything in water. Absorbing the chemical is the other half of the equation - the HPBCD makes it less hydrophobic, and thus, more easily absorbable via the buccal route; this means a lower effective dose, which means you can sell a more effective product at a lower cost (since you'll be using less per dose).

True true but I need to source HPBCD which isn't an instant process...especially since all the companies have MOQs like 10kilograms or even 100 kilograms. I am definitely looking but for right now I am not going to be ultra fancy. The HPBCD will cost a lot more than the 25I because I will probably need to buy a kilo.