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Title: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: ianfleming on March 24, 2012, 04:36 am
I'm looking at getting a gram of molly, but I'm not sure who to use.
I've narrowed it down to either Tony76 or Chemicalbrothers.

I know both are said to be quite pure, but I want to hear what you guys think.
Also, I'm worried about shipping from Holland, isn't there more risk? How often does shit get intercepted?

Basically, who do you guys think I should go with, and why?
Is either "better"?
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: Holly on March 24, 2012, 05:18 am
I would go with Tony.  His Mdma is 90% pure and you don't have to risk shipping from NL.
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: ianfleming on March 24, 2012, 06:13 pm
Thank holly. You and Wowzers seem to be the most knowledgeable people on this forum.

Out of curiosity, have you used both?
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: Holly on March 24, 2012, 06:36 pm
I have not tried both.  I wouldn't say there is a substantial difference.
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: Andrewbud420 on April 02, 2012, 12:38 am
Received MDMA from Chemicals brothers to Canada without any problems.. Everyone loves it......
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: marsvolta12 on April 02, 2012, 01:07 am
if you have problems with those two go for either ivory(when he makes his return) or mitanox. my two favorite mdma vendors.
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: Holly on April 02, 2012, 01:15 am
if you have problems with those two go for either ivory(when he makes his return) or mitanox. my two favorite mdma vendors.

Ivory's bulk shipping is retardedly stealth.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: rednelb1 on April 02, 2012, 01:46 am
tonys is great
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: Gigles on April 02, 2012, 04:23 am
Tony's MDMA is mediocre, not nearly as good as Skyy/Mitanox/Ivory/Kara's, for comparison. Have never tried CB's.
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: CX on April 02, 2012, 05:03 am
Got a G of Moll from Chembro's to Au in 7days... Only had .1 so far but it was great. No noticeable come down and I slept like a new born babe and had some great dreams afterwards

Holly I thought maximum achievable purity for MDMA was 84%?
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: ianfleming on April 02, 2012, 05:56 am
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Holly I thought maximum achievable purity for MDMA was 84%?
This is untrue.
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: SRTRAVLER on April 06, 2012, 09:17 pm
i wouldnt be giving advice if you havent tried them both holly.

Ive herd tonys mdma is not the best.

and dont go with ivory, i received cut mdma from him.

IME Dramsterdam has the best mdma.
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: deansmithmd on April 06, 2012, 09:27 pm
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Holly I thought maximum achievable purity for MDMA [crystal] was 84%?
This is untrue.
You sure about that? I'm no chemist, but from what I've read MDMA crystal maxes out at 84%. Anything higher than that and it would be an oily liquid due to the constraints of physics. When labs are doing GCMS tests, they only account for what is actually there, so in a pill 100mg MDMA = 100mg MDMA. However, with crystal, God's requirement that it be 84% or below in order to stay in solid form means 100mg MDMA crystal = 84mg MDMA (or less, depending on purity) in pill form.

Again, I'm not a chemist and I haven't taken any science classes for decades, but I recently did some research on this very subject and the above is my understanding of the "84% rule". Any lab rats know the real skinny?
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: Jimmy245 on April 06, 2012, 09:34 pm
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Holly I thought maximum achievable purity for MDMA was 84%?
This is untrue.

Actually, it is true, at least in the sense of the Dutch lab testing.  In those tests, they give percentage in terms of:

(weight of MDMA base) / (weight of mixture)

Or something to that effect.  The bottom line is that in the case of MDMA hydrochloride, the MDMA base makes up about 84% of the weight and the hydrochloride makes up the remaining 16%.   So the max purity will 84% in those lab tests.

MDMA base has a molar mass of 193.25 g/mol.  MDMA hydrochloride has a molar mass of 193.25 g/mol + 36.46 g/mol = 229.71 g/mol.

193.25 / 229.71 = 0.841278133, or about 84%.

It should be noted that it is possible to give percentage purity in terms of:

(weight of MDMA hydrochloride) / (weight of mixture)

In this case, it is possible to have purity up to 100% theoretically.  So when discussing purity, it's important to know which convention is being used.
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: Jimmy245 on April 06, 2012, 09:41 pm
I would go with Tony.  His Mdma is 90% pure and you don't have to risk shipping from NL.

Holly, please enlighten us.  Exactly how do you know that Tony's MDMA is "90% pure"?  Are you just guessing or going off what someone told you, or do you have something real to back up your statement?
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: Ondine on April 06, 2012, 10:10 pm
Not really true, I've gotten quite a few things from NL to USA with no problems. Mitanox ships from NL and his 2c-b and MDMA are out if this world. His MDMA is my personal favorite, but I got 5g from Tony a few weeks ago and it's amazing as well.

I say go with Tony.
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: Jimmy245 on April 06, 2012, 10:44 pm
and dont go with ivory, i received cut mdma from him.

@SRTRAVLER, how do you know it was cut?
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: addiction1646 on April 06, 2012, 11:11 pm
Forget about the quality of the MDMA...

If you are in the US, you should order from Tony.  Why risk getting your package getting seized if you don't have to???  Order, chill out for 5 days without any worries, then enjoy!    ;D ;D ;D

From personal experience, I have never tried CB, so I'm not bashing them or anything.  I have tried Tony's...many times.  It isn't the strongest on the market, but it has nothing but MDMA (no stims cut in).  And from a cost/potency perspective, Tony's stuff is amazing.  And I'm not even getting into his customer service / platinum reputation.

</end tonylove>


<3 Addiction
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: Jimmy245 on April 07, 2012, 12:23 am
What's with you people in this thread all over Tony's dick, making statements  like "it has nothing but MDMA," but offering nothing to back up what you say.  He must be cutting his MDMA with something to get you people all up on his jock.
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: tony76 on April 07, 2012, 12:30 am
What's with you people in this thread all over Tony's dick, making statements  like "it has nothing but MDMA," but offering nothing to back up what you say.  He must be cutting his MDMA with something to get you people all up on his jock.
If you would have read the entire thread, you would have seen there are some people who say my mdma isn't the best, and some people who say they love it.

Seems like legit reviews, no?

It's not like every person is saying my MDMA is the best. Different strokes for different folks. Don't talk down poorly of people because they are happy with my product.
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: SRTRAVLER on April 07, 2012, 01:28 am
and dont go with ivory, i received cut mdma from him.

@SRTRAVLER, how do you know it was cut?

well because i had a shitty comedown/crash and the next week i had a horrible headache.  not to mention the roll sucked hard.  I took 200mg and a 100mg redose,  I felt a lot of negative side effects i do not get from pure mdma.

No other vender's mdma has ever done that.  I didnt even have mdma till a month before i tried it to.
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: SRTRAVLER on April 07, 2012, 01:29 am
DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT ORDER FROM NL.

if you want you're address flagged and a possible search warrant executed on you're house/apt DO NOT order from NL.

So far within the past month 2 people have had search warrants executed on there house after ordering shit from NL, And that's only 2 i know of.

NL is flagged HEAVILY to US CUSTOMS. 95% chance you wont ever get shit, and past month US officials say fuck the controlled drop,

They gather a warrant and go str8 to Ur house. they don't fuck around.

This is just a heavy warning. I'm sure ill get a shitload of -karma but i don't fucking care. If i can try and keep someone safe i will.

PLEASE for the love of god go with Tony. Why even risk it? Unless its 1/2 or less price, i see no reason to even try ordering anything from NL.

Losty

stop spreading fear when u dont know what you talking about faggot.
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: Jimmy245 on April 07, 2012, 02:24 am
@SRTRAVLER, That sucks you had a bad experience, but I'm not sure that necessarily means it was cut.  It's hard to know without some testing.  Sounds like there is a potential that it was not MDMA at all but something else all together.

@tony76, I wasn't saying the reviews aren't legit, but there's too many people stating facts that they have no way to know and no backup for.  Holly said your MDMA is 90% pure.  Now how would she know that?  addiction1646 says your stuff has no cut in it.  Now how would he know that?  So I just fed up with people spouting bullshit facts that they don't know.  They do it for other vendors too, not just you, so it's nothing personal toward you.  Clearly people really like your products and your service, so I'm not trying to knock you.
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: tony76 on April 07, 2012, 02:38 am
@SRTRAVLER, That sucks you had a bad experience, but I'm not sure that necessarily means it was cut.  It's hard to know without some testing.  Sounds like there is a potential that it was not MDMA at all but something else all together.

@tony76, I wasn't saying the reviews aren't legit, but there's too many people stating facts that they have no way to know and no backup for.  Holly said your MDMA is 90% pure.  Now how would she know that?  addiction1646 says your stuff has no cut in it.  Now how would he know that?  So I just fed up with people spouting bullshit facts that they don't know.  They do it for other vendors too, not just you, so it's nothing personal toward you.  Clearly people really like your products and your service, so I'm not trying to knock you.

Us people in North America don't have easy access to drug labs etc like they do in Europe. So when we gauge, we can only just do our best to guesstimate percentage based on what clean MDMA is supposed to feel like etc.. I don't think Holly stating 90% was an attempt at spreading misinformation but more or less her opinion based on her experiences with MDMA in general (i.e. bad mdma with harsh comedowns etc)
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: addiction1646 on April 07, 2012, 03:27 am
What's with you people in this thread all over Tony's dick, making statements  like "it has nothing but MDMA," but offering nothing to back up what you say.  He must be cutting his MDMA with something to get you people all up on his jock.

Jimmy, you are correct.  I have no "hard" evidence to back up my claims (mass spec analysis).  I have, however, done A LOT (more than I would like to admit) of MDMA.  For me, it is pretty easy to FEEL when MDMA has been cut with cheap RX stims (dexmethylphenidate is the most common, I would guess.  Other guilty substances include caffeine, methylphenidate, and 1,3Di, with meth and speed RARELY being found.

Pure MDMA isn't really the "get up and rave your ass off for 8 hours" drug that many people think.  100% pure MDMA is actually very relaxing...it doesn't really speed you up that much (in my experience).  I never get any speedy side effects on Tonys MDMA.

I'm sorry if my post mislead anyone...I hope this clears it up.


<3 Addiction

And just to clarify, when I say cutting, I mean something like lactose or baking soda.  Pharmacologically inert substances.
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: randomOVDB#2 on April 10, 2012, 10:27 am
Actually, it is true, at least in the sense of the Dutch lab testing.  In those tests, they give percentage in terms of:

Do you maybe have a reference for this ? I've read about DIMS in their English publications and have never seen this type of reporting.

Another reason why I'm skeptical is if that was true and used for other drugs also, amphetamine samples would "max" at  37% (135.2 / 368.5 = 0.366892809) and cocaine at 89% (303.35 / 339.81 = 0.892704747)
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: amymolly on April 10, 2012, 01:18 pm
Tony76
Title: Re: Tony76 vs Chemicalbrothers?
Post by: Andrewbud420 on April 11, 2012, 01:12 am
I am from Canada and ordered from Chemical Brothers. Waiting on my third order from them to arrive... I have yet to try Tony's ..