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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: glennsteinbeck on June 27, 2012, 01:25 am

Title: MDMA/ecstasy Info
Post by: glennsteinbeck on June 27, 2012, 01:25 am
Looking to buy some MDMA or some ecstasy variation for the first time. I've heard good and bad things about pure MDMA and its effects on the brain, but I want the truth from seasoned ecstasy users. What is the difference between pure MDMA and other ingredients in terms of trip/safety/general feeling, especially when it comes to first-time users?
Title: Re: MDMA/ecstasy Info
Post by: oldschoolclubkid on June 27, 2012, 01:43 am
Looking to buy some MDMA or some ecstasy variation for the first time. I've heard good and bad things about pure MDMA and its effects on the brain, but I want the truth from seasoned ecstasy users. What is the difference between pure MDMA and other ingredients in terms of trip/safety/general feeling, especially when it comes to first-time users?


Been rolling since it was legal in the states 84-85ish.  I have read and seen many reports on the long and short term effects but have seen very little of them in my life.  I went through a phase in the early 90's were I was rolling about 4 days a week and was doing was too much.  These days its about once a month and really no more than about 300 mg a night.

As far as for a first time user I would start with 100-120 mg and add more if you need it.  You can get MDMA in the crystal or pill form here on SR and either should do you fine.  The quality on here is wonderful.  Now that's the original ecstasy then came MDA which is a very good but different trip would not start with that but if you like MDMA then its a  must try at least once.

Now after MDA there were several things again sold as x but the father away they get from MDMA the less of the same effect they have.  These days there are a bunch of rc's sold as X some are OK but not MDMA others are very dangerous.  If you have ever seen any of the reported deaths from X almost all have been linked to these other things and not the MDMA.  Not saying all are dangerous but some of them are very.

So my point is if you want to do X then get the real stuff since its just as easy to get here than the other stuff and I promise you will enjoy it a lot more.  Then once you get some experience you can move out and try some of the other stuff.

Oldschoolclubkid
Title: Re: MDMA/ecstasy Info
Post by: jetsnbroccoliohmy on June 27, 2012, 04:42 am
Google this article - Canada wants to legalize MDMA.  Top health officials from Canada are saying "PURE" MDMA when consumed responsibly by adults can be safe.  Harvard experts have studied it also, saying if it is pure and not cut it can be safe. 
Title: Re: MDMA/ecstasy Info
Post by: Gibbroni on June 27, 2012, 02:43 pm
With pure MDMA your roll will not abruptly end (at least in my experience), and you will enjoy a nice long taper down to baseline, and you'll probably sleep really well while still being a little euphoric. 
MDMA is the same, whether it's in pills or pure crystal.  The stuff on Silk Road is generally fantastic quality.  I have had very very dirty pills just full of md/speed combos and also just plain old meth, and there's a big difference.  For one, with dirty pills I find I get a few hours in and the euphoria just STOPS, just like that.  All of a sudden I think "I am not having as much fun as I was 5 mins ago". As soon as that realisation hits, it's all over.  Then you can't get to sleep no matter how hard you try!
Keep it pure, it's great!
Title: Re: MDMA/ecstasy Info
Post by: alanwan15 on June 27, 2012, 05:55 pm
MDMA == MDMA == MDMA. The difference is that sometimes ecstasy contains other adulterants, but if you buy a good press from a good dealer, and test your pills, you can get pills that are MDMA only.

Probably the two most common types of pills sold as "ecstasy" that aren't pure MDMA are:
- various piperazines, which often feel more trippy but not necessarily in a good way like your standard psychedelics, and also often come with heavy nausea and unpleasant feelings that can persist for a very long time.
- MDMA + Some stimulant, often Amphetamine or Caffeine, this is because while MDMA is a stimulant in itself, it doesn't have as much drive and push as most stimulants and so some people like a bit of a kick to give you energy for those all night raves etc.

Pure MDMA is your classic loved up euphoria, while combining it with a stimulant turns it more into the dance drug it's touted as - it's often much nicer just on its own because the energy is still there, but not overpowering, and the love is unparalleled :)

As for the safety of pure MDMA. Abusing it and similar drugs leads to some neurotoxicity and serotonin downregulation - what this means in simple terms is that overuse is quite damaging, and this is also the reason for people "losing the magic", as when your serotonin axon count falls and your receptors downregulate there's a lot less serotonin flowing around in future rolls and you don't get the full effects of the love or empathy any more.

Alexander Shulgin, who popularized MDMA found that 4 times a year was his maximum with MDMA before it started causing problems. This varies from person to person, with a minimum break of around a month between rolls being good for most people and with it going up to 3-4 months for some. Avoid repeated redoses too as these cumulative effects are more damaging (Stick to one redose a roll max imo), and of course make sure you test what's in your pills :)