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Title: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: BigMind on June 28, 2012, 11:34 am
Been indulging in this stuff for around 4 years and have tried many types and extracts. For me its the filler between my chemical explorations, having a full time Job/kids/wife limits my opportunities to partake of some of the more taxing pleasures (but did get an all-niter in on Monday with Nevitas 2c t7..Wow!) So kratom fits nicely and can take on many sub-personality's, sometimes being similar to mdma, coke or opiates. Dependent on dose, type, time of day, regularity of use, what its combined with etc etc

  Kratom is relatively cheap and still legal, great at alleviating all sorts of comedowns, it has had great success in treating opiate addiction, does not show up on drug tests, for me has had positive health implications (stress reduction + others)

 Kratom does not combine very well with tobacco and can lead to a classic "whitey", but teams up superbly with Mj and a few drinks.

 So I guess this is a recommendation, Kratophiles please chime in.

 PS. I am not a kratom vendor, but if I were to sell on the road I would probably sell kratom
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: Skippy_Jif on June 28, 2012, 05:54 pm
Shocked me when I first tried it. The most horrid taste you could imagine follows though....(shivers)
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: mito on June 28, 2012, 06:05 pm
I tried some from PuffDaddy.

Terrible taste, but the effects are very good, opiate like.

But I needed to eat like 25g of it.         
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: HOUSE on June 28, 2012, 06:42 pm
Can anyone give me some advice on how this stuff should be done properly?

I mean in terms of strains and dosages.

Recently I got the chance to try some Borneo Red. I had 4 tablespoons of it and felt like shit - inability to focus, felt dizzy, flushed, etc. I was fucked, but not the good kind of fucked.

Then someone suggested to me I should try 2 tablespoons instead. I did and didn't feel much.

I've heard of people who get the scratches and sometimes even nodding out of this stuff. So I'm curious as to what I'm doing wrong.

In the interest of full disclosure: I'm not opiate naive. I'm on 2mg of bupe per day, taken in the morning. Whenever I try Kratom, I do it first thing in the morning before any bupe, so any blocking effects should be at a minimum.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: Skippy_Jif on June 28, 2012, 09:11 pm
5-10g should be good. Swallow it and wait for the effects. You will know when it hits you. Ill pm you a place to try out.
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: smokeweed420 on June 28, 2012, 09:23 pm
im on buperenorphine as well and im positive it  blocks the kratoms effects just like it blocks any other opiate type substance. i ate some kratom a couple hours after i did my suboxone and within an hour i had a terrible body load, extreme head aches and just a general shitty feeling. so long story short, dont do kratom if you use suboxone but i think i would enjoy the effects if i wasnt on the subs.
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: Mossman on June 28, 2012, 10:22 pm
" Kratom does not combine very well with tobacco and can lead to a classic "whitey""

Never heard this term...what is "whitey"?
 I've used kratom daily for roughly 4 years as well (2-3 teaspoons crushed bali powder). In the beginning, I used chewing tobacco and every now and then I noticed I'd get sick and vomit if I over did the two. American snus has never been a problem, nor has cigs or e-cigs.

I love Kratom as well. It enhances pretty much anything. Gives me energy when I need a boost (especially for work, or if I get lazy in the afternoon). Great anti-depressant. Makes me last longer in the sack. Helps with headaches, pain. It's literally a cure all for me.
No downsides to speak of (except for very mild withdrawals, similar to nicotine withdrawal in intensity but distinctly opiate withdrawal).

I've introduced it to a couple people with chronic pain & it's helped them immensely. Some now prefer it over milder pain meds for that purpose (eg- vicodin, percocet).

Recreationally, I've noticed I get very little out of oral pain meds since regular kratom use. It's interesting, even after 4 years I get more of the warm and fuzzy feelings from a teaspoon of kratom than I would from 2-3 vicodin/percs/norco.


It's easy enough to obtain on clearnet, but I wouldn't mind seeing some kratom tinctures here on SR (if they were somehow sold cheaper than those on clearnet). I tried one once (a few drops sublingually) and it made me higher than oxycontin  (no joke). I was seriously floating from that stuff- made for a wonderful day. Not very economical though on clearnet (but almost worth the price if used sparingly for special occasions). I'd snatch some up in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: smokeweed420 on June 28, 2012, 10:30 pm
at my local gas station they sell kratom shots, kind of like 5 hour energy but full of kratom extract. i hear from all my friends that they are very strong.
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: Holly on June 29, 2012, 01:11 am
So which site has the most 'legit' Kratom on clearnet?
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: Nero on June 29, 2012, 02:50 am
BigMind thats excellent to hear about Nevita's product!

You should leave him a review in his thread since hes a fairly new vendor.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=15815.msg307794#msg307794

On topic. Ill get some from a gas station and try it out!
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: Mossman on June 29, 2012, 03:03 am
Holly-  check out https://speciosa.com.
Also kratomking (I believe they sell a variety of samples, which is nice allowing you can find your favorite blend).

Get powdered leaf. I'd suggest going with Commercial Bali (at speciosa.com it's called "super fine bali", and generally any blend called "bali" is commercial bali) to get a feel for kratom. It's the most economical and best bang for your buck ime. I experimented early on but when I realized I wanted to use it daily, I quickly found that the more expensive blends were simply not worth the cost. Commercial bali works just fine and the dose effects are much more predictable.
 With the more potent blends it's much easier to get nausea.
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: PsilocybinTendencies on June 29, 2012, 03:08 am
okay you guys made this drug sound pretty cool...

but I'm a chain smoker who can't help but light up every 5 freaking minutes.

what the hell is a whitey?
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: redalloverthelandguyhere on June 29, 2012, 05:04 am
A 'whitey' is a UK word for feeling ill after a drug - the classic 'I need to lie down' feeling - slight nausea, dizziness, pale faced, sweating perhaps.

On weed it is the times you use too much and need to lie down and recover ten mins later to smoke more.

As for kratom, its one I would try and it is there on the clearnet.

Might be a good night in drug I imagine.

Thanks for the reminder and tip.
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: Mossman on June 29, 2012, 06:06 am
Hey Red...you're gonna like this... it pairs *wonderfully* with amphetamine + beer. It's my    preferred combo for a night at the pubs/socializing.

Thanks for explaining what a "whitey" is. I definitely experienced this frequently when I used snuff. I no longer use snuff, but have never had a problem with cigarettes or snus. Obvious I have a high tolerance for nicotine due to past snuff use. My brother only smokes and as far as I know, he's never had any issues with kratom and cigs.

One word of caution...for some folks (including myself), the first time can be overwhelming at first. The first time I tried it was nothing at all like it is for me today. I thought my girlfriend had poisoned me with the stuff. I was sick for about 10 minutes but it faded and the rest of the day was fantastic. After that, it never happened again. Moral of the story: start low, maybe a light teaspoon. See how you react and adjust from there later on.

A cool aspect of kratom is it's dose/response is  self-limiting (ceiling effect), unlike most opiates. You find your sweet spot and your tolerance doesn't change much, if at all.

If you ever take too much, purge yourself and you'll feel better almost instantaneously.
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: BigMind on June 29, 2012, 08:17 am
 Hey Kratophiles, nearly 2 weeks ago i placed my first order with a kratom vendor from Indonesia (bikhuk)
And it was a good deal at £100 (paid in BTC) for 1.2 kg, shipped. But have just had a notice from customs that £28 is required before they will release it, however it still comes in cheaper than any domestic supplier by a long way, this order comprises of 7 variety's + 1 bag  stem and vein powder + 5g extract.
 I will be posting reviews of each variety in this thread and if any UK peeps are interested let me know by pm and I will sling out a few free samples, sorry to my cousins across the pond but because kratom weighs a lot, its not cheap to ship over.

PS Nero, check in Nevitas thread for my 2c t7 report

 Laters  Y`all
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: noosemagnet on June 29, 2012, 08:46 am
i've never tried kratom but i'm very fond of opiates. i'm always nervous about things you have to smoke (you have to smoke it, right?) because i hate weed (makes me horribly paranoid) and i had a bad experience with salvia (lawl)

so, does it make you paranoid???
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: BigMind on June 29, 2012, 09:36 am
Noosemagnet, people refer to the process as burning cos its sold as incense but you actually swallow it, just put desired amount in a paper fold and pour it into yer mush then swill with OJ and swallow,its called toss n wash.
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: noosemagnet on June 29, 2012, 10:09 am
ohhh that sounds great then. lol
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: BigMind on June 29, 2012, 11:11 am
Just sampled 6.5g of White vein sumatra, effects were noticed fairly quickly around 5 min and breathing becomes deep, clear and pleasant after another 10 minutes a nice double espresso awareness without any jitter or need to go to the toilet, 5 min again and the body element makes itself known with a slight physical glow equivalent to low dose codeine.
  I intend to re-dose 2 more times today, in about 3 hours I will try some green Malay ( balanced stimulation with mild sedation and some analgesia)
 Then around 4hrs before bed i will dose with red vein Borneo for sedation and full body melt, i feel like a kid at Christmas

I should be noted that this is not really a drug in the true sense of the word, more just a pleasure tonic with some interesting effects, and much like wine and Mj the properties vary with the type making it interesting to explore
Title: Re: Kratom enyone else love it?
Post by: Ben on June 30, 2012, 12:55 am
I guess kratom is one if the exotics i'd like to try. As something the border of being an opiate if would probably be interesting :)