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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: indianpilldaddy on February 10, 2013, 07:25 pm
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Well guys there are many many benzos there, but which one do you love most??
Mine is the all time favorite Xanax/Alprazolam. What about you? People like Diazepam, clonazepam, lorazepam and even nitrazepam a lot.
Get your thoughts in people. What about you?
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Well just to get this thread going with a useless post
I tried 2mg of clonazepam last night and had 5-6 drinks and i gotta say i was a little bored with it. All it really did is make me want to sit down more often and little sloppier when i walk. maybe i was a bit numb to social situations idk. but it could just be a simple solution of dosage as i have never used benzos b4
anyway free thread bump
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Diazepam.
About 60mg or 70 mg to stay active and 100mg to 120 mg with a good weed-joint to become high.
If possible from India,because of the price ceiling regulation law for generics.
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Klonopin. Because, oddly enough, it keeps my migraines at bay.
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Well, diazepam if I want something more physical, alprazolam if I want to relax mentally. 30 mg diazepam is plenty for me, and I and a friend long ago decided together that 2.5 mg alprazolam is the perfect max. amount - 3.0 is just over the line & we'd always wind up sleeping after a couple of hours.
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mate I will tell you what you did wrong there, you should never mix alcohol and benzos. That is what most people do wrong! Not only is it not safe but it also fades away the benzo effect. Check this link out here - http://www.drugs.com/food-interactions/clonazepam.html
Well just to get this thread going with a useless post
I tried 2mg of clonazepam last night and had 5-6 drinks and i gotta say i was a little bored with it. All it really did is make me want to sit down more often and little sloppier when i walk. maybe i was a bit numb to social situations idk. but it could just be a simple solution of dosage as i have never used benzos b4
anyway free thread bump
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Diazepam is great!! its actually even better if it bought from India. Here in India we sell roughly 40% diazepam out of all the meds we sell. So yeah they are always in a lot of demand. Even the British are falling in love with the indian valium.
Diazepam.
About 60mg or 70 mg to stay active and 100mg to 120 mg with a good weed-joint to become high.
If possible from India,because of the price ceiling regulation law for generics.
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Lucky you !
If 30 tabs are sold for 6,50 Rs, that makes 300 tabs for 65,- Rs and that will be for 3000 tabs for 650,-Rs
To convert 650Rs in euro's will be how much?
Name Manufacturer Price
1 Dizapam (10 mg) (30 Tablet) Shalina Laboratories Ltd Rs 6.50
94%
2 Dizep (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Intas Laboratories Pvt Ltd Rs 3.70
90%
3 Diaz (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Orchid Chemicals & Pharmaceuticals Ltd. Rs 9.90
73%
4 Alzepam (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Psyco Remedies. Rs 10.00
73%
5 Dipax (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Reliance Formulation Pvt Ltd Rs 11.80
68%
6 Dizy Tab (10 mg) (500 Tablet) Jpee Drugs Rs 625.00
66%
7 Elpose (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Elite Pharma Pvt Ltd Rs 15.00
59%
8 Diazeco (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Consern Pharma Pvt Ltd. Rs 20.00
46%
9 Silprex (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Taj Pharmaceuticals Ltd Rs 21.15
43%
10 Anxol (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Maneesh Pharmaceuticals Ltd Rs 22.00
41%
11 Placidox (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Pinnacle (Lupin Laboratories Ltd.) Rs 22.00
41%
12 DPM (10 mg) (10 Tablet) VGR Bio Laboratories Rs 24.00
35%
13 Zepose (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Cipla Limited Rs 25.00
32%
14 Diaclam (10 mg) (10 Tablet) East West Pharma Rs 36.75
1.00%
15 Valium (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Abbott Healthcare Pvt Ltd (AHPL) Rs 37.00
http://icmr.nic.in/ijmr/2007/may/0506.pdf
Fixed prices for generics (ceiling prices)
Factory price added by 15% for wholesale and 35% for retail
Fig.Medicine prices in private sector for innovator brand (IB) most sold generic (MSG) and lowest price generic (LPG) at six survey
sites in India.
(So in order to be able to sell at the free market, the company's have to sell cheap generics)
http://www.drugsupdate.com/brand/showavailablebrands/799
http://www.healthkartplus.com/details/drugs/38870/valium-10-mg;jsessionid=me+sYHvOal1v8j5zOkKzqnOM
So how many tabs of diazepam of the brand Shalina can I or you buy for €10,- ?
If 30 tabs are sold for 6,50 Rs, that makes 300 tabs for 65,- Rs and that will be for 3000 tabs for 650,-Rs
To convert 650Rs in euro's will be how much?
To be added with the 15% margin for wholesale and the 35% margin for retail. That's 50% right?
50% of 650,- = 325
So 650 Rs + 325 Rs = 975 Rs for 3000 tabs of 10 mg diazepam tabs
http://themoneyconverter.com/INR/EUR.aspx
And you sell them for....?
It seems that every single money converter is broken on the internet, because those prices are cheap , CHEAP !!!
I think I have to leave my doctor from myanmar (no prescription or regulations over there)
I will not give addresses in order not to ruïn the market over here at SR.
But you all know that all pharmacy's online are scam.
So go to google and search for local pharmacy's at ""maps"".
Collect several emails from those pharmacy's and send them all the same mail.
Then you have to write your mail only once, and just paste that mail.
You can even use google streetview to see what kind of pharmacy it is...
Just a thought...
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well this thing is kind of hilarious and you are right about your facts in a lot of ways but there are some things here that I would like add. First of all these prices are for when we go over and by the meds with a genuine prescription which obviously I don't have. Even if I did I could never buy them in such quantities to sell them to my customers.
The pharmacy shops here in India by the way of monopoly of oligopoly(mutual agreements in business) never sell the cheapest brand, which is shalina laboratories in this case. Just so because it is the cheapest brand and they would profit less if they sell it the cheapest amount. That's common sense. They most widely and trustworthy brands available in India is Cipla whose brand name for diazepam is Zepose. Its 25/- Rs a blister pack retail price. 10 tablets in it.
But here is the thing here, us sellers never get it at 25 Rs a blister pack. We get it at maybe double or even more. Thats 50 Rs a blister pack. Then we have our bribes which I can't say are how much!! and other overhead costs.
We don't earn as much as you guys think we do mate. Its pretty risky here too, well its 10 years in prison we get caught plus a hefty fine - over 2,00,000 Rs. I think we deserve that much for taking such a risk.
And all online pharmacies are not scams. Most are I agree. But not all. You just need to know where to look, like SR. :)
Lucky you !
If 30 tabs are sold for 6,50 Rs, that makes 300 tabs for 65,- Rs and that will be for 3000 tabs for 650,-Rs
To convert 650Rs in euro's will be how much?
Name Manufacturer Price
1 Dizapam (10 mg) (30 Tablet) Shalina Laboratories Ltd Rs 6.50
94%
2 Dizep (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Intas Laboratories Pvt Ltd Rs 3.70
90%
3 Diaz (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Orchid Chemicals & Pharmaceuticals Ltd. Rs 9.90
73%
4 Alzepam (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Psyco Remedies. Rs 10.00
73%
5 Dipax (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Reliance Formulation Pvt Ltd Rs 11.80
68%
6 Dizy Tab (10 mg) (500 Tablet) Jpee Drugs Rs 625.00
66%
7 Elpose (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Elite Pharma Pvt Ltd Rs 15.00
59%
8 Diazeco (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Consern Pharma Pvt Ltd. Rs 20.00
46%
9 Silprex (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Taj Pharmaceuticals Ltd Rs 21.15
43%
10 Anxol (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Maneesh Pharmaceuticals Ltd Rs 22.00
41%
11 Placidox (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Pinnacle (Lupin Laboratories Ltd.) Rs 22.00
41%
12 DPM (10 mg) (10 Tablet) VGR Bio Laboratories Rs 24.00
35%
13 Zepose (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Cipla Limited Rs 25.00
32%
14 Diaclam (10 mg) (10 Tablet) East West Pharma Rs 36.75
1.00%
15 Valium (10 mg) (10 Tablet) Abbott Healthcare Pvt Ltd (AHPL) Rs 37.00
http://icmr.nic.in/ijmr/2007/may/0506.pdf
Fixed prices for generics (ceiling prices)
Factory price added by 15% for wholesale and 35% for retail
Fig.Medicine prices in private sector for innovator brand (IB) most sold generic (MSG) and lowest price generic (LPG) at six survey
sites in India.
(So in order to be able to sell at the free market, the company's have to sell cheap generics)
http://www.drugsupdate.com/brand/showavailablebrands/799
http://www.healthkartplus.com/details/drugs/38870/valium-10-mg;jsessionid=me+sYHvOal1v8j5zOkKzqnOM
So how many tabs of diazepam of the brand Shalina can I or you buy for €10,- ?
If 30 tabs are sold for 6,50 Rs, that makes 300 tabs for 65,- Rs and that will be for 3000 tabs for 650,-Rs
To convert 650Rs in euro's will be how much?
To be added with the 15% margin for wholesale and the 35% margin for retail. That's 50% right?
50% of 650,- = 325
So 650 Rs + 325 Rs = 975 Rs for 3000 tabs of 10 mg diazepam tabs
http://themoneyconverter.com/INR/EUR.aspx
And you sell them for....?
It seems that every single money converter is broken on the internet, because those prices are cheap , CHEAP !!!
I think I have to leave my doctor from myanmar (no prescription or regulations over there)
I will not give addresses in order not to ruïn the market over here at SR.
But you all know that all pharmacy's online are scam.
So go to google and search for local pharmacy's at ""maps"".
Collect several emails from those pharmacy's and send them all the same mail.
Then you have to write your mail only once, and just paste that mail.
You can even use google streetview to see what kind of pharmacy it is...
Just a thought...
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The very first phrmacy I could find and seemed to be legit wrote to me the following;;
Hi Wasta,
Thank you for your interest in our services.
Currently we are servicing only to Delhi/NCR region in India. Do let us know if we can serve you anywhere in this region.
Looking forward to delighting you with our services.
Regards,
Team HealthKartPlus
The guy Vikas Chauhan has no problems to sell some.
To sell abroad is more difficult because export and import papers are required.
The FDA is closing a lot of pharmacy's and punish even more for not have their missing medicine acquainted for.
For you, it shouldn't be a problem.
I am a fucking foreigner from abroad and have no business.
Most will sell but ask for the import license papers, from the chamber of commerce.
But if you do live in New Delhi, I am willing to give you a 200 or even 300% profit for just receiving the pills I order.
All you have to do is put the delivery in an other envelope with mu name and address.
You will make 20 or 30 euro's in 5 minutes.
Half an hour tops if you include the walk to the post-office-box, writing my name and address and licking the poststamp.
As long you do not know what is in the envelope, by not opening the envelope, I find it hard to believe that you are looking at jailtime.
Just send the police to healthkartplus or give the police a little bribe...
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well thanks for the offer mate! But I think I will pass. I don't want to get my hands dirty in someone elses game however if you would order the stuff from me instead its a different game. Pm me for more.
The very first phrmacy I could find and seemed to be legit wrote to me the following;;
Hi Wasta,
Thank you for your interest in our services.
Currently we are servicing only to Delhi/NCR region in India. Do let us know if we can serve you anywhere in this region.
Looking forward to delighting you with our services.
Regards,
Team HealthKartPlus
The guy Vikas Chauhan has no problems to sell some.
To sell abroad is more difficult because export and import papers are required.
The FDA is closing a lot of pharmacy's and punish even more for not have their missing medicine acquainted for.
For you, it shouldn't be a problem.
I am a fucking foreigner from abroad and have no business.
Most will sell but ask for the import license papers, from the chamber of commerce.
But if you do live in New Delhi, I am willing to give you a 200 or even 300% profit for just receiving the pills I order.
All you have to do is put the delivery in an other envelope with mu name and address.
You will make 20 or 30 euro's in 5 minutes.
Half an hour tops if you include the walk to the post-office-box, writing my name and address and licking the poststamp.
As long you do not know what is in the envelope, by not opening the envelope, I find it hard to believe that you are looking at jailtime.
Just send the police to healthkartplus or give the police a little bribe...
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hi mates :)
flunitrazepam for sure ... but hard to get and very expensive :-(
br
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well thanks for the offer mate! But I think I will pass. I don't want to get my hands dirty in someone elses game however if you would order the stuff from me instead its a different game. Pm me for more.
The very first phrmacy I could find and seemed to be legit wrote to me the following;;
Hi Wasta,
Thank you for your interest in our services.
Currently we are servicing only to Delhi/NCR region in India. Do let us know if we can serve you anywhere in this region.
Looking forward to delighting you with our services.
Regards,
Team HealthKartPlus
The guy Vikas Chauhan has no problems to sell some.
To sell abroad is more difficult because export and import papers are required.
The FDA is closing a lot of pharmacy's and punish even more for not have their missing medicine acquainted for.
For you, it shouldn't be a problem.
I am a fucking foreigner from abroad and have no business.
Most will sell but ask for the import license papers, from the chamber of commerce.
But if you do live in New Delhi, I am willing to give you a 200 or even 300% profit for just receiving the pills I order.
All you have to do is put the delivery in an other envelope with mu name and address.
You will make 20 or 30 euro's in 5 minutes.
Half an hour tops if you include the walk to the post-office-box, writing my name and address and licking the poststamp.
As long you do not know what is in the envelope, by not opening the envelope, I find it hard to believe that you are looking at jailtime.
Just send the police to healthkartplus or give the police a little bribe...
I have found my own real doctor, found on a dating site, From Myanmar.
He wrote;
4 feb. (7 dagen geleden)
aan mij
Hi wasta, Myanmar donot produce diazepam, all import, but I do contrat mfg in Indai for export to africa , can help. But I really dont understand yr tpye business , so please call me my mobile so understand n help proper way.
Than Win.
Besides the Indian stuff he has Somaid, Menodiazo, Gpo, DAZ and some few more brands. Not all at stock, so he has to go to wholesale too.
But for prices that you can find here too, if you are prepared to buy 5000 tabs.
Low quantity's stay very expensive here on SR;
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/8f9d511ef8
For those prices I am better of at the local streetdealer.
Myanmar has no regulations for selling diazepam.
So if there is a risk, it will be at my side,
for not having the import papers , from the chamber of commerce.
So I have t order small quantity's , and calculate in , the possibility that the delivery is going te be confiscated.
But I will send you a pm on short notice.
Wasta
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I have extensive experience with klonopin. When i first started using it, it was great. But now it barely does anything. I like Xanax because it's potent, But i also don't like it cause it knocks me out completely. it doesn't just relaxes me. I like valium. But i want to try the rare benzos. Like bromazepam, halcion, rohypnol, oxazepam. I also like librium.
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well those are rare benzos!! Even nitrazepam is a great benzo, not many people know about it and is rarely demanded for. Its known as Mogadon and is probably the best for inducing sleep.
I have extensive experience with klonopin. When i first started using it, it was great. But now it barely does anything. I like Xanax because it's potent, But i also don't like it cause it knocks me out completely. it doesn't just relaxes me. I like valium. But i want to try the rare benzos. Like bromazepam, halcion, rohypnol, oxazepam. I also like librium.
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Xanax. It seems the most recreational ;)
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Anyone ever tried triazolam?
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Anyone ever tried triazolam?
I tried triazolam 0.25mg. It's great and euphoric very good for short sleep like 6 hours because it's short acting. i tried blue ones halcion brand name and I love these little guys. Everyone should try it.
Anyone heard of benzodiazepine called nimetazepam ? it's infamous asian benzo i don't think it is on SR. Is it available in india ? just look up nimetazepam on google and you'll see that it's rare and interesting benzo.
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XANAX ALL THE WAY FOR ME!!!! THE GREEN BARS ARE MY FAV, THAT AND THE GADOR BARS FROM ARGENTINA...
KLONOPIN I LOVE ALSO...ppl claom ROCHE is the best but i disagree, im not sure of the brand name but there are a green pill with a big M onone side and some #s on the other their 2mg kpins..there the best, Unless u can get the ons that have the K stamped out the middle,real brand Klonopin.. FUCK THEE REST
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Xanax
Etizolam if you consider it a benzo.
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XANAX ALL THE WAY FOR ME!!!! THE GREEN BARS ARE MY FAV, THAT AND THE GADOR BARS FROM ARGENTINA...
KLONOPIN I LOVE ALSO...ppl claom ROCHE is the best but i disagree, im not sure of the brand name but there are a green pill with a big M onone side and some #s on the other their 2mg kpins..there the best, Unless u can get the ons that have the K stamped out the middle,real brand Klonopin.. FUCK THEE REST
Hi man try buying some 0.25mg triazolams and tell me what you think.. believe me they're great. I used brand name Halcion.
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Like diazepam and clonazepam. Alprazolam is great for medicinal use, though.
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Hey, everyone. Just wanted to show some love for my new favorite benzo vendor. Her SR name is Natasha (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/9372abfb60), and she's US Domestic. She has a really good variety of benzos, good prices, and I was really impressed with her stealth shipping. If you're looking for a new vendor, you should check out her wares.
Peace.
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well those are rare benzos!! Even nitrazepam is a great benzo, not many people know about it and is rarely demanded for. Its known as Mogadon and is probably the best for inducing sleep.
I have extensive experience with klonopin. When i first started using it, it was great. But now it barely does anything. I like Xanax because it's potent, But i also don't like it cause it knocks me out completely. it doesn't just relaxes me. I like valium. But i want to try the rare benzos. Like bromazepam, halcion, rohypnol, oxazepam. I also like librium.
The reason is that nitrazepam is not approved by the American FDA, cause mice get cancer from it. I had two friends who used mogadon for many years, they both have died now. Guess what? CANCER !!! But those pharmaceutical company's have such a power and so much money, so they have managed that nitrazepam is allowed over here in the European union.
On the other hand , mice drop dead too from eating modified corn (modified DNA) and we humans have to eat that too, with the same argument used. Mice ain't humans.
But if it was not dangerous the FDA would allow nitrazepam or Mogodon in the USA, but they will not allow it.
And you need a lot to notice some effect.
Just 2 pills will let you sleep the same way a glass of hot milk would do.
It is not worth risking cancer.
Enough alternatives !
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Hey, everyone. Just wanted to show some love for my new favorite benzo vendor. Her SR name is Natasha (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/9372abfb60), and she's US Domestic. She has a really good variety of benzos, good prices, and I was really impressed with her stealth shipping. If you're looking for a new vendor, you should check out her wares.
Peace.
Hey mate! if you are talking about good price on Benzos, then would request you to definitely check my Vendor page and my listings. I am sure you will like the prices.
Pm me for further info.
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Yeah, I don't know if you picked up on it or not, but I was really happy with Natasha, and plan to buy from her for awhile.
As a rule, I only buy domestic, anyway. Why fuck with customs when you don't have to? Plus, I was the guy who commented about buying all those Indian drugs to restock clinics and hospitals in Afghanistan. Not really a fan.
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well those are rare benzos!! Even nitrazepam is a great benzo, not many people know about it and is rarely demanded for. Its known as Mogadon and is probably the best for inducing sleep.
I have extensive experience with klonopin. When i first started using it, it was great. But now it barely does anything. I like Xanax because it's potent, But i also don't like it cause it knocks me out completely. it doesn't just relaxes me. I like valium. But i want to try the rare benzos. Like bromazepam, halcion, rohypnol, oxazepam. I also like librium.
The reason is that nitrazepam is not approved by the American FDA, cause mice get cancer from it. I had two friends who used mogadon for many years, they both have died now. Guess what? CANCER !!! But those pharmaceutical company's have such a power and so much money, so they have managed that nitrazepam is allowed over here in the European union.
On the other hand , mice drop dead too from eating modified corn (modified DNA) and we humans have to eat that too, with the same argument used. Mice ain't humans.
But if it was not dangerous the FDA would allow nitrazepam or Mogodon in the USA, but they will not allow it.
And you need a lot to notice some effect.
Just 2 pills will let you sleep the same way a glass of hot milk would do.
It is not worth risking cancer.
Enough alternatives !
yes yes and what nitrazepam you had ? diazepam with chalk called nitrazepam ? Don't be ridicilous 10mg nitrazepam feels so much stronger than 10mg diazepam..
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well those are rare benzos!! Even nitrazepam is a great benzo, not many people know about it and is rarely demanded for. Its known as Mogadon and is probably the best for inducing sleep.
I have extensive experience with klonopin. When i first started using it, it was great. But now it barely does anything. I like Xanax because it's potent, But i also don't like it cause it knocks me out completely. it doesn't just relaxes me. I like valium. But i want to try the rare benzos. Like bromazepam, halcion, rohypnol, oxazepam. I also like librium.
The reason is that nitrazepam is not approved by the American FDA, cause mice get cancer from it. I had two friends who used mogadon for many years, they both have died now. Guess what? CANCER !!! But those pharmaceutical company's have such a power and so much money, so they have managed that nitrazepam is allowed over here in the European union.
On the other hand , mice drop dead too from eating modified corn (modified DNA) and we humans have to eat that too, with the same argument used. Mice ain't humans.
But if it was not dangerous the FDA would allow nitrazepam or Mogodon in the USA, but they will not allow it.
And you need a lot to notice some effect.
Just 2 pills will let you sleep the same way a glass of hot milk would do.
It is not worth risking cancer.
Enough alternatives !
yes yes and what nitrazepam you had ? diazepam with chalk called nitrazepam ? Don't be ridicilous 10mg nitrazepam feels so much stronger than 10mg diazepam..
Exactly mate! Diazepam is kids play as compared to nitrazepam!!
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Xanax
Etizolam if you consider it a benzo.
Agreed on the etizolam. The only actual benzo I've (knowingly) done is xanax. I took two 1mg pills on separate occasions and preferred etizolam. There is a cross-tolerance I'm pretty sure, and I'd been using some etizolam occasionally around the times I took the xanax. It had only been occassional use though (thus tolerance was still low) and it still seemed like 1mg of etizolam was better than 1mg xanax even though comparable doses of the two are supposedly a 2:1 etizolam:xanax ratio.
It's a bit funny since I expected the opposite after mostly reading on forums people saying etizolam wasn't as good (before trying xanax, but after trying etizolam). I'd still like to give xanax another shot though. I've been taking the etizolam fairly regularly (typically 2-5/day) for the past week and a half or so and am going to (try) to stop now. I think I could manage to not have any noticeable withdrawal symptoms if I went cold turkey, but I might take 1mg/day for the next few days to ease my way down. Anyway, once I've allowed my tolerance to go down maybe I'll try xanax again. Since xanax is usually the most preferred benzo I'm not all that curious about trying others like klonopin or valium. I'd consider taking them if the situation was right and I was offered but I won't be going out of my way to get a hold of them. And having said all of that, they're all probably pretty similar in the end if the dosage is right.
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I like aprazolam as a medication against anxiety problems. It's quick, effective, and that part of its effect isn't all that susceptible to tolerance either.
To get a good nights sleep oxazepam seems to ft the bill very nicely. By the milligram its not very potent at all, but with 50 mg tablets on the market it will probably only take 2 or 3 to knock you out cold.
I don't use benzo's as recreational drugs though - i fail to see the appeal. Surely they can stop you from worrying, but that usually results in sleep too.
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so is there nimetazepam in india ? ( erimin 5 , happy 5 it's got alot of nicknames and alot of abuse potential).. Exclusive to asia this benzo is. indianpilldaddy look it up nimetazepam maybe its available there..
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http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/510416-Nimetazepam-(Erimin) heres a thread about it. its really a good one.
Flunitrazepam — fluorinated derivative of nimetazepam
Nitrazepam — demethylamino derivative
So nimetazepam is the boss of flunitrazepam and nitrazepam :D
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Xanax is my favorite! 1/2 millies, footballs, bars, triangle or whatever. I'd like to try Valiums/diazepam
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NIMETAZEPAM? DOESNT ANYONE HAS INTEREST IN PROBABLY MOST ABUSABLE BENZO OUT IN THE WORLD? I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOY MY KARMA DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THIS BENZO.
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Usually, I'm good with K-pins or restoril. But, today, I got an order in, and let me tell you what:
2mg Xanax is my new bestest friend, Maybe because I took it with a 30mg morphine tab, but I don't have a care in the fucking world. Love you guys. Peace out.
sleepy
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Drugs like nimetazepam can be very useful for those that want to take them for the intended purpose: falling asleep rapidly after taking them.
Flunitrazepam and nimetazepam do have a resputation as being 'date rape' drugs because they basically work very well, also if administered to someone else without their knowledge. I suppose that would put them in the 'rag soaked in chloroform' category where things like abduction, rape and such are concerned. I suppose all means of knocking out a person quickly would be in that same category though, including hitting someone in the head with a 2x4. Noone is considering a ban on those, however.
Sedating a person against their will should by all means be illegal in the western world, but it seems the focus is too much on some specific means of doing so. There is nothing morally wrong with someone taking a substance to knock themselves out quickly, this is all voluntary behavior.
Perhaps it would be morally wrong to remove any and all relatively safe means of doing so, leaving people with unhealthy alternatives like solvent abuse. I can assure you the kids on the streets of pnom penh are not huffing glue because its the best method of getting high... it is simply the only resort left to them.