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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Xe on July 28, 2012, 10:07 am

Title: Dissociatives
Post by: Xe on July 28, 2012, 10:07 am
The original idea is having a thread about dissociative state in general
not about any special substance..

Anybody? How do you feel it? Have anything to say?
New twisted thoughts from dissociative minds are welcome!

DXM aka Dextromethorphan..
Been extensively researching this chemical for about a year.
That one can teach a lot if approached with respect..
So much wisdom.. That much grace.. Beautiful thoughts..

The same dissociative class as ket or newly arrived mxe. Aesthetic anesthetics.

The way i see 'em as universal addiction breakers.. Deprogramming agents..
For any physical or psychological addictions or thinking patterns in general..
Personally helped me a lot in dealing with my nicotine addiction and alcohol craving.

Constant flow of insights and sparks of consciousness is another bright side..
I believe that particular kind of chemistry is sort of underground in underground..

There's a divine spark of genius in everyone of us from the very birth..
Will we be able to recognize it and bring to full blossom it's up to us..
That's tough following the call of a genius inside, ever seeking the path..
This chemistry can help to those who create and determined in doing so..
To people involved in creating instead of consuming, art people,
painters, designers, bringers of the beauty from another dimension.

Been looking for any sources of information about dissociatives.
Haven't found that much on the subj but there's a great book available
from ketamine priestess Marcia Moore 1978 Journeys into the Bright World..

I'm looking for individuals who are willing to gain higher understanding
of these substances and share their insights with the others on the path..

Related to DXM there's smth interesting: DXMZine@dextroverse
Title: Re: Dissociatives
Post by: noosemagnet on July 28, 2012, 11:11 am
i spent a good year chugging up on that tuss before moving onto dxm powder and then mxe for 9 months or so. i've tried ketamine a couple times but i dunno... i didn't like it as much. and (maybe i got shitty k but) it tastes like fucking petrol up my nose and made me gag.

i've not done mxe since march. there was an incident where i overdid it and came back to consciousness covered in cuts and bruises. been quite turned off doing it since.
Title: Re: Dissociatives
Post by: kmfkewm on July 28, 2012, 11:23 am
I think ketamine is better than DXM in every possible way
Title: Re: Dissociatives
Post by: Xe on July 28, 2012, 12:47 pm
Oh man please be more careful..
It is true this kind of medicine requires higher responsibility than anything else..

The other wonderful side that i've discovered on dxm is the occult content of the experience..
It shows a way and gives a drive for searching any kind of hidden knowledge, psychology and alchemy for me..
Sometimes higher meaning opens up just about anything around.. A genuine obe experience beyond belief..
As well as esp phenomena in form of synchronicities when inner and outer states interfere.. Coincide..
I would say fate aligning, the term i coined myself and haven't seen anywhere else before..

Haven't managed to get a hold of k or mxe myself yet.. Though have read a couple of books about k..

Is special k better than anything? Hmm.. I would say it's a truer dissociative as far as i know...
But sure enough only personal experience can become a point of view on that matter..

Title: Re: Dissociatives
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 28, 2012, 01:52 pm

Dxm to me is a lame trip. Was funny he first few times while robo-walking, after a while got sick of it. Its not a recreational drug to me.
Title: Re: Dissociatives
Post by: Xe on July 28, 2012, 03:21 pm
Actually Dxm has dosage dependent plateau effect which makes it appear like three different substances..
Each state has its unique set of effects and thought patterns.. Levels of access to information..

At low doses, first or low second plateau, it has property of a mild stimulant.

Second plateau can be compared to a subtle psychedelic state..

While at higher plateaus, third and beyond, this medicine shows its true dissociative nature splitting mind and body..
Going into the state of k,m or d-hole.. There's no robo or any other kind of walking possible in these higher states..

There's a point in experiencing all these three different facets of dxm before crystallizing an opinion about it..

Personally i would never be able to say lame about it.
Third plateau experience is always so profound and lifechanging that makes me question everything i think i know..

It's definitely not a recreational substance. Not for being involved in any social activities under influence.
More for psychonauts, researchers of the mind, who take journeys in order to gain higher knowledge about
themselves, about the way our mind works and for better understanding of the laws of the universe around us..
Title: Re: Dissociatives
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 28, 2012, 04:02 pm

I am aware of what plateaus are. As for psychonauts, I think its rather weird to be dependent on any substance to gain knowledge. A psychedelic experience is what you make out of it, anything other than that is a fool`s whim. You can research yourself, the mind and journey all you want, nevertheless you can never change the laws around you. I think most are absorbed into this thinking a new plateau will give them knowledge that is unattainable to sober individuals. If anything a psychonaut`s discoveries and ramblings can only be related among individuals practicing the same/similar chemical. Most true laws/backed-up theories/philosophy came from those who questioned themselves relentlessly to find a better answer. Drugs on the other hand are all forms of escapism.

I`m not gonna lie,  I do like experiences of all kinds but all this so called 'knowledge' is as good as worshiping a deity. You can`t apply that knowledge in real life and progress. If we could we all wouldn`t be here wasting hours on such posts.
Title: Re: Dissociatives
Post by: Adasel on July 28, 2012, 04:20 pm
Hell yeah ImaginaryTailus13 you hit the nail on the head there mate.
I am planning to spend some dosh this summer purely to "experience" the effects of magic mushrooms.  Gonna book myself into a hotel room and everything to make it a more "relaxing" experience!
Title: Re: Dissociatives
Post by: Imaginarytailus13 on July 28, 2012, 04:35 pm
Hell yeah ImaginaryTailus13 you hit the nail on the head there mate.
I am planning to spend some dosh this summer purely to "experience" the effects of magic mushrooms.  Gonna book myself into a hotel room and everything to make it a more "relaxing" experience!

Good to hear that. Give me a phone call if you achieve enlightenment.
Title: Re: Dissociatives
Post by: Adasel on July 28, 2012, 04:38 pm
No worries mate.  I was thinking of LSD but in my brothers younger days he had his drink spiked with the stuff and it really fucked with his head.
He was walking home with his friends who did their best to help him but all he could see was the trees reaching out to him like fucking claws.  Thats not what i want.
Dont worry im going to keep my experiences posted!
I have a good feeling its going to be a wild ride.