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Title: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 07, 2013, 08:40 pm
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c3cd60bf91 <--- 87% 'pure' MDMA? "Above average!" .... Lies. Not possible:

MDMA freebase (100% pure) is a liquid. When based down in HCL, it becomes crystaline; yielding a maximum potential of 84% MDMA, 16% HCL(pure MDMA-HCL).

In layman's terms... "100% pure" mdma 'crystals' are actually a max of 84%. Would be egg-shell white(not yellow) and have a very light smell of licorice. Not rootbeer; not plastic.

That is all.  ::)

Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 07, 2013, 08:48 pm
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/a34b7f1783 <---Mine came from NL, and rated 83.8989% MDMA & 16.1111% HCL, and that's the highest I've personally actually seen. Most people I know don't even need a full .1 to roll hard as fuck for 10+ hours... I still can't believe some dude in Germany has the balls to claim his is 87% pure.  :D
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: JohnDelay on June 07, 2013, 09:09 pm
If you're rolling for 10+ hours I can guarantee you that what you're ingesting isn't MDMA.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 07, 2013, 09:46 pm
If you're rolling for 10+ hours I can guarantee you that what you're ingesting isn't MDMA.

Ok.  Thanks for the guarantee. ;D
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 07, 2013, 09:56 pm
If you're rolling for 10+ hours I can guarantee you that what you're ingesting isn't MDMA.

If you're rolling for 2 hours, and then coming down for 8, I can 'guarantee you' that what YOU are ingesting isn't 'good' MDMA.

Mine goes straight to black on a simple marquis. Not even a blip of indiscriminate color. Crystals barely melt at 149° C. 4-5 hour peak, 4-5 hour 'come down' that 'feels' just as good as the 'peak' on 'other rolls' I've had from other bulk vendors on here. Are you going to argue that 87% pure MDMA-HCL exists also?

The falseness of people's commentary on these boards is astounding... but again, thanks for the 'guarantee' about a product I can 'guarantee' you've never seen, based on your narrow-minded response. If you're tripping on acid for more than 12 hours... I can GUARANTEE.... nothing. Because that would be making assumptions. ;)

Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: TheZommb on June 07, 2013, 10:06 pm
I personally have an order on the way and plan on giving a full first hand recap of the experience within a week (unless something comes up). Honestly, when a vendor is just trying to provide an above average service by being knowledgeable about the products they are selling, and someone cuts them down, it irritates me. Would you rather buy from someone advertising that taking MDMA every day over the course of a week is a good idea? To each their own, and I'm going with the facts, which are that MDMA-HCL cannot be any more pure than 84% by molecular weight. If you don't understand chemistry, don't try to understand how the drugs work. AE is putting solid, useful information out there; no reason to try to prove you have a bigger dick.

Zommb
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: le botbahn on June 07, 2013, 10:23 pm
Actually, in reality, z % MDMA = z % MDMA•HCl.

There"s nothing more to it but confused people regurgitating nonsense and a weird non-standard way of reporting that only exists in NL (apparently) and SR. Nobody is talking about freebase, except you actually (when you claim that only 84% is the max purity).

Source: science.

I came back to touch on inert binder used for "moon rocking" but I see the post below already did so nicely.

Eleanorrobot, I fucking love your name :) +1
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: eleanorrobot on June 07, 2013, 10:27 pm
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c3cd60bf91 <--- 87% 'pure' MDMA? "Above average!" .... Lies. Not possible:

MDMA freebase (100% pure) is a liquid. When based down in HCL, it becomes crystaline; yielding a maximum potential of 84% MDMA, 16% HCL(pure MDMA-HCL).

In layman's terms... "100% pure" mdma 'crystals' are actually a max of 84%. Would be egg-shell white(not yellow) and have a very light smell of licorice. Not rootbeer; not plastic.

That is all.  ::)


As you know, 100% pure MDMA in HCl form is 84% MDMA 16% salt.

Now this listing is saying it's 87% pure, that means it is 87% pure MDMA-HCl and 13% inactive. You can break this down like so:

- 87% MDMA HCl (with 84% of that 87 being freebase MDMA and 16% being HCl salt)
- 13% inactive filler

When someone talks abut purity of crystalline mdma in their product pages, it is standard to give purity based off the ratios of MDMA salt to impurity... this is not the ratio of MDMA molecules to salt molecules.

If you see a listing that said 100% pure MDMA, that would mean a perfect 100% pure mix of 84% MDMA freebase and 16% HCl salt. It would not mean they have broken science and managed to chemically link freebase MDMA to nothing.

His percentage assumes "MDMA" to be regarded as "MDMA-HCl" which is the norm since it's the way everybody buys it.

Hope this helps clear things up for you.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 07, 2013, 10:50 pm
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c3cd60bf91 <--- 87% 'pure' MDMA? "Above average!" .... Lies. Not possible:

MDMA freebase (100% pure) is a liquid. When based down in HCL, it becomes crystaline; yielding a maximum potential of 84% MDMA, 16% HCL(pure MDMA-HCL).

In layman's terms... "100% pure" mdma 'crystals' are actually a max of 84%. Would be egg-shell white(not yellow) and have a very light smell of licorice. Not rootbeer; not plastic.

That is all.  ::)


As you know, 100% pure MDMA in HCl form is 84% MDMA 16% salt.

Now this listing is saying it's 87% pure, that means it is 87% pure MDMA-HCl and 13% inactive. You can break this down like so:

- 87% MDMA HCl (with 84% of that 87 being freebase MDMA and 16% being HCl salt)
- 13% inactive filler

When someone talks abut purity of crystalline mdma in their product pages, it is standard to give purity based off the ratios of MDMA salt to impurity... this is not the ratio of MDMA molecules to salt molecules.

If you see a listing that said 100% pure MDMA, that would mean a perfect 100% pure mix of 84% MDMA freebase and 16% HCl salt. It would not mean they have broken science and managed to chemically link freebase MDMA to nothing.

His percentage assumes "MDMA" to be regarded as "MDMA-HCl" which is the norm since it's the way everybody buys it.

Hope this helps clear things up for you.


Okay, so he's claiming 87% pure MDMA-HCL ... Then I'm going to advertize mine as 99.9% pure MDMA-HCL...

By your math his actual % is... 73.08% pure MDMA; 87% pure MDMA-HCL. So, my question is.... HOW IS THIS ABOVE THE NORM?!

Answer: It's not.


Hope this clears some things up for you. lmao

Fucking wiz-kids. I swear there's more false information here than beneficial information....
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: le botbahn on June 07, 2013, 10:55 pm
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c3cd60bf91 <--- 87% 'pure' MDMA? "Above average!" .... Lies. Not possible:

MDMA freebase (100% pure) is a liquid. When based down in HCL, it becomes crystaline; yielding a maximum potential of 84% MDMA, 16% HCL(pure MDMA-HCL).

In layman's terms... "100% pure" mdma 'crystals' are actually a max of 84%. Would be egg-shell white(not yellow) and have a very light smell of licorice. Not rootbeer; not plastic.

That is all.  ::)


As you know, 100% pure MDMA in HCl form is 84% MDMA 16% salt.

Now this listing is saying it's 87% pure, that means it is 87% pure MDMA-HCl and 13% inactive. You can break this down like so:

- 87% MDMA HCl (with 84% of that 87 being freebase MDMA and 16% being HCl salt)
- 13% inactive filler

When someone talks abut purity of crystalline mdma in their product pages, it is standard to give purity based off the ratios of MDMA salt to impurity... this is not the ratio of MDMA molecules to salt molecules.

If you see a listing that said 100% pure MDMA, that would mean a perfect 100% pure mix of 84% MDMA freebase and 16% HCl salt. It would not mean they have broken science and managed to chemically link freebase MDMA to nothing.

His percentage assumes "MDMA" to be regarded as "MDMA-HCl" which is the norm since it's the way everybody buys it.

Hope this helps clear things up for you.


Okay, so he's claiming 87% pure MDMA-HCL ... Then I'm going to advertize mine as 99.9% pure MDMA-HCL...

By your math his actual % is... 73.08% pure MDMA; 87% pure MDMA-HCL. So, my question is.... HOW IS THIS ABOVE THE NORM?!

Answer: It's not.


Hope this clears some things up for you. lmao

Fucking wiz-kids. I swear there's more false information here than beneficial information....

Yeah dude. You clearly know what you're talking about. Fuck those "wiz kids" and crazy scientists with their facts and stuff. /s  ::)
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Festivalia on June 07, 2013, 10:59 pm
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c3cd60bf91 <--- 87% 'pure' MDMA? "Above average!" .... Lies. Not possible:

MDMA freebase (100% pure) is a liquid. When based down in HCL, it becomes crystaline; yielding a maximum potential of 84% MDMA, 16% HCL(pure MDMA-HCL).

In layman's terms... "100% pure" mdma 'crystals' are actually a max of 84%. Would be egg-shell white(not yellow) and have a very light smell of licorice. Not rootbeer; not plastic.

That is all.  ::)


As you know, 100% pure MDMA in HCl form is 84% MDMA 16% salt.

Now this listing is saying it's 87% pure, that means it is 87% pure MDMA-HCl and 13% inactive. You can break this down like so:

- 87% MDMA HCl (with 84% of that 87 being freebase MDMA and 16% being HCl salt)
- 13% inactive filler

When someone talks abut purity of crystalline mdma in their product pages, it is standard to give purity based off the ratios of MDMA salt to impurity... this is not the ratio of MDMA molecules to salt molecules.

If you see a listing that said 100% pure MDMA, that would mean a perfect 100% pure mix of 84% MDMA freebase and 16% HCl salt. It would not mean they have broken science and managed to chemically link freebase MDMA to nothing.

His percentage assumes "MDMA" to be regarded as "MDMA-HCl" which is the norm since it's the way everybody buys it.

Hope this helps clear things up for you.


Okay, so he's claiming 87% pure MDMA-HCL ... Then I'm going to advertize mine as 99.9% pure MDMA-HCL...

By your math his actual % is... 73.08% pure MDMA; 87% pure MDMA-HCL. So, my question is.... HOW IS THIS ABOVE THE NORM?!

Answer: It's not.


Hope this clears some things up for you. lmao

Fucking wiz-kids. I swear there's more false information here than beneficial information....

Yeah dude. You clearly know what you're talking about. Fuck those "wiz kids" and crazy scientists with their facts and stuff. /s  ::)

Scientist of what? You're arguing HCL versus freebase. OP made a valid point, and considering what I'm seeing the ad they posted --I agree.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 07, 2013, 11:00 pm
Most people I know don't even need a full .1 to roll hard as fuck for 10+ hours...

Now there is a nice lie!  MDMA doesn't last that long.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Festivalia on June 07, 2013, 11:02 pm
Most people I know don't even need a full .1 to roll hard as fuck for 10+ hours...

Now there is a nice lie!  MDMA doesn't last that long.

Has for me. Opinions. They're like assholes... you of all people, are the brownest. lmfao
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 07, 2013, 11:04 pm
Most people I know don't even need a full .1 to roll hard as fuck for 10+ hours...

Now there is a nice lie!  MDMA doesn't last that long.

Has for me. Opinions. They're like assholes... you of all people, are the brownest. lmfao

Sorry brother but there was something else in there or it wasn't MDMA.  Possibly meth in there.  Pharmacology is pharmacology son and you're witchcraft can't change science.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: TheGoldenEel on June 08, 2013, 08:19 am
10 hours? If you count the comedown, it hardly even lasts that long.

How do the Dutch test centers report MDMA content of pills? Freebase or salt amount? If mg content is listed as mdma-hcl then it makes sense to list crystal mdma as 84%. I remember CandyShop saying test results are listed in freebase amounts, but I wasn't totally convinced.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 09, 2013, 05:38 am
Oh look, another lying listing.  "92%+" ::)  http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/dbc4ea1ecb
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 09, 2013, 06:05 am
10 hours? If you count the comedown, it hardly even lasts that long.

How do the Dutch test centers report MDMA content of pills? Freebase or salt amount? If mg content is listed as mdma-hcl then it makes sense to list crystal mdma as 84%. I remember CandyShop saying test results are listed in freebase amounts, but I wasn't totally convinced.

MOST the dutch seem to go by % of MDMA versus % of HCL salts, the highest possible being 84%. This is what we have for sale. If it were FREEBASE MDMA, it would be 100%. But it's MDMA-Hcl salt. 84% MDMA...

Does that not make sense? Anyway, the vendor I posted about in my OP says in his profile that his MDMA is "87%", "Higher than average" ... if you read his wording, he is implying that his MDMA is 87% MDMA, 13% Hcl salts.

He is NOT implying that his MDMA is 87% PURE MDMA Freebase. Not sure why some "scientist" attacked me on that. But, yeah, awesome. Stop bullshitting people... your MDMA is green; something is off.


The peak of the roll from my MDMA is about 4-5 hours in, depending on the size of the individual, for 1/10th of 1 gram. The 'come down' is another 4-5 hours of feeling 'better than usual' ... The half-life of pure MDMA-Hcl is 10 hours. I explained this to Jack N Hoff via PM. This isn't rocket science... it's biochemistry.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 09, 2013, 06:10 am
Oh look, another lying listing.  "92%+" ::)  http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/dbc4ea1ecb

Make em say uhh... Na nah na nah...
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: flyspray on June 09, 2013, 07:29 am
Is that true? You sound like you know what your talking about, you get a sense of what sounds true. Thats interesting, too much bullshit in this game.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: TheZommb on June 09, 2013, 03:23 pm
Is that true? You sound like you know what your talking about, you get a sense of what sounds true. Thats interesting, too much bullshit in this game.


[CLEARNET]

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-623072.html?s=7f8f58120c257530e69cca45ac46bcb4

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Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: tlanks on June 09, 2013, 05:47 pm
Is that true? You sound like you know what your talking about, you get a sense of what sounds true. Thats interesting, too much bullshit in this game.

I wouldn't call it bullshit, more like childish ignorance. Actually fucking stupidity is probably a better word. You pick either way it's sad.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 09, 2013, 07:26 pm
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c3cd60bf91 <--- 87% 'pure' MDMA? "Above average!" .... Lies. Not possible:

MDMA freebase (100% pure) is a liquid. When based down in HCL, it becomes crystaline; yielding a maximum potential of 84% MDMA, 16% HCL(pure MDMA-HCL).

In layman's terms... "100% pure" mdma 'crystals' are actually a max of 84%. Would be egg-shell white(not yellow) and have a very light smell of licorice. Not rootbeer; not plastic.

That is all.  ::)


As you know, 100% pure MDMA in HCl form is 84% MDMA 16% salt.

Now this listing is saying it's 87% pure, that means it is 87% pure MDMA-HCl and 13% inactive. You can break this down like so:

- 87% MDMA HCl (with 84% of that 87 being freebase MDMA and 16% being HCl salt)
- 13% inactive filler

When someone talks abut purity of crystalline mdma in their product pages, it is standard to give purity based off the ratios of MDMA salt to impurity... this is not the ratio of MDMA molecules to salt molecules.

If you see a listing that said 100% pure MDMA, that would mean a perfect 100% pure mix of 84% MDMA freebase and 16% HCl salt. It would not mean they have broken science and managed to chemically link freebase MDMA to nothing.

His percentage assumes "MDMA" to be regarded as "MDMA-HCl" which is the norm since it's the way everybody buys it.

Hope this helps clear things up for you.

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c3cd60bf91

Top of the line product of 87%
PURITY,Above the normal ,
Clean powerful high,The stuff that blowed everybody's heads in the early 2000's,best way to describe what it does to you is your world will shatter in two and the euphoria will kick in your room will shatter in peices and you are going to hug the sofa from feeling that euphoria ,


^^ You should probably read the ad in question, before you jump to it's defense and tell someone with a masters in BioChem that they don't know what they're talking about with MDMA %ages.

This MDMA I'm selling is from NL, and as YOU know, that's just how NL does their chemical breakdowns. %age of MDMA verses HCL salts. Stop being dumb. Jesus fuck.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 09, 2013, 07:28 pm
Is that true? You sound like you know what your talking about, you get a sense of what sounds true. Thats interesting, too much bullshit in this game.

I wouldn't call it bullshit, more like childish ignorance. Actually fucking stupidity is probably a better word. You pick either way it's sad.

I wouldn't call it either. I would call it a GREAT Disservice to ALL SR users, spreading misinformation and disinformation... that could lead to someone getting hurt.

Fucking people with their :know it all; attitudes piss me right the fuck off... We're talking about DRUGS, not your favorite Back Street Boy...
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: idgafos44 on June 10, 2013, 05:45 am
Is that true? You sound like you know what your talking about, you get a sense of what sounds true. Thats interesting, too much bullshit in this game.

I wouldn't call it bullshit, more like childish ignorance. Actually fucking stupidity is probably a better word. You pick either way it's sad.

I wouldn't call it either. I would call it a GREAT Disservice to ALL SR users, spreading misinformation and disinformation... that could lead to someone getting hurt.

Fucking people with their :know it all; attitudes piss me right the fuck off... We're talking about DRUGS, not your favorite Back Street Boy...


woooo its a shoot out in hurr!  Atlantic is just trying to drop some knowledge that seems to be up for discussion on this forum.  there are still many thing im not 100% (pun intended) sure about.  Atlantic exchange has been around the block a bit.  He is a great vendor and mind.  feel free to pick his brain!
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 10, 2013, 06:29 am
I mean no ill-will towards anyone. Just don't tell me, when I go out of my way to point out a flaw in someone's listing; that they "actually mean" something different then what they "actually" mean.

The vendor I posted about in my OP is a German Vendor. His MDMA is Green. He says it's 87%, implying by the dutch-lab rule, 87% MDMA by molecular weight, versus Hcl salt. His claim is that this is "higher than the norm", and to those that then jumped on my balls because I said one of my customers claimed to have rolled for 9-10 hours; and then got schooled in the pharmacological field via PM, I will say that if I'm in the wrong somehow by conveying (third hand mind you) someone else's experience on my (tried, tested, and true) pure 100% MDMA-HCL(84% MDMA) Crystal(because 100% pure MDMA Freebase is an oil); then fucking sue me.

The vendor in question in my OP claims that "you'll even wake up the next day feeling fantastic" ... Which is the case on ANY good MDMA(It's called "afterglow"), does that mean he's claiming people are rolling for more than a day? No. And that's not what I meant either.

I'm pointing out FACTS. And I find most of the responses to my OP to be very trite "nanny boo boo" -George "dubya" Bush style mathematics... highly offensive.

It is what it is, though, but PLEASE stop spreading lies over the internet for your 'potential' teenage customers(that I so often turn away) to chew up like candy. It's fucking MDMA!

That is all.  :D
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: idgafos44 on June 10, 2013, 06:48 am
is your offer to buy me a hooker when i sample your mdma still on the table?  i want to have the 100% experience you described
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 10, 2013, 09:51 am
is your offer to buy me a hooker when i sample your mdma still on the table?  i want to have the 100% experience you described

Lmfao; there's enough trashy hookers right here on SR Forums. I'm sure you could wrastle one up. ;) lol

Seriously, find a girl to eat that shit w/ you bro. :)    I can't wait for more feedback from those lucky enough to have bought some of that "sub-standard" , "below average" 84% Mdma (16Hcl salt) MDMA-Hcl I'm selling.  ::)

ha, I forgot I said I might just throw in a hooker... lol
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Auguest West on June 10, 2013, 12:41 pm
Geez not this stupid argument again, yes we all understand the concept of chemistry and we are so happy that you with your aspergers you can troll around SR and point out vendors selling 87% MDMA (Which just isn't posssible!@#!@#)   

Im just curious how half of your vending stats are for a free item called show me your stats and yet youve managed somehow to get feedback on that free item saying how great it was, blah blah blah.  Also pretty interesting how all the feedback reads as if it was written by one person?  Seems pretty damn shady to me. 
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: barbequehax on June 10, 2013, 12:46 pm
I had a pretty long roll at my very first MDMA consumption aswell. The peak lasted about 4h and then the whole coming down with an insanely nice feeling lasted almost the whole day after the evening when I took it.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 10, 2013, 02:19 pm
Def blown couple grams of molly before (not even super pure shit, just ok stuff, regular 60 to 70 dollar gram powder) and had mad afterglow for more than 10 hours, lol just floatin on a cloud ya know =p And awesome info, I knew the whole 84% thing but I never took the time to understand it chemically, Any other salt forms you can put mdma into to be a crystalin solid?? Oh yes and I wouldnt mind gobbling up a tenth of that 99.9% MDMA freebase oil, could only imagine that roll =D
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: le botbahn on June 10, 2013, 02:25 pm
I like how your argument gradually shifted to the exact same thing that eleanorrobot and I said in the beginning while ridiculing us and bragging about an imaginary master's degree in the mean time. Way to employ damage control in your attempt to push your fucking product.

I'n glad you learned something here even if you won't admit it.

I'm not even sure what you're yelling about now. If you call this publicity you may want to reevaluate your approach. Lol.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 10, 2013, 02:34 pm
Geez not this stupid argument again, yes we all understand the concept of chemistry and we are so happy that you with your aspergers you can troll around SR and point out vendors selling 87% MDMA (Which just isn't posssible!@#!@#)   

Im just curious how half of your vending stats are for a free item called show me your stats and yet youve managed somehow to get feedback on that free item saying how great it was, blah blah blah.  Also pretty interesting how all the feedback reads as if it was written by one person?  Seems pretty damn shady to me.

Yes, Asperger's Syndrome is what leads people to want to stop the spread of misinformation on the Silk Road... your gall is about the only thing you got right now kid.

In fact, that feed back of which you so excitedly attacked, was for one of my free listings and including a graciously over-zealous "variety pack" of my wears. The review is from none-other than "La Blue Girl", right here in the forums. I'm sure she can tell you everything; look in my other thread(the one in my sig). Before you wildly go making assumptions based on my feedback, why don't you take your newbie foot out of your newbie mouth and actually look around the boards a bit. By accusing me of creating shill feedback on SR, you're basically accusing Christy Nugs, BajoZero, NorCal420HookUp, TheZommb, Festivalia, LucyMcgee, and everyone else who stand behind us 100%.

In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary, "Come again?" O_o    Trust me, you didn't look cool just then^, kiddo. You sound massively stupid. Like, PROFOUNDLY dumb. Just thought I should point... that... out... with my Aspergers. Yeah, definitely. Definitely Aspergers.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 10, 2013, 02:37 pm
I like how your argument gradually shifted to the exact same thing that eleanorrobot and I said in the beginning while ridiculing us and bragging about an imaginary master's degree in the mean time. Way to employ damage control in your attempt to push your fucking product.

I'n glad you learned something here even if you won't admit it.

I'm not even sure what you're yelling about now. If you call this publicity you may want to reevaluate your approach. Lol.

 :D Oh, okay, well, you do know that these things are in plain text, right? So, let me begin quoting what you're referring to^.


http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c3cd60bf91 <--- 87% 'pure' MDMA? "Above average!" .... Lies. Not possible:

MDMA freebase (100% pure) is a liquid. When based down in HCL, it becomes crystaline; yielding a maximum potential of 84% MDMA, 16% HCL(pure MDMA-HCL).

In layman's terms... "100% pure" mdma 'crystals' are actually a max of 84%. Would be egg-shell white(not yellow) and have a very light smell of licorice. Not rootbeer; not plastic.

That is all.  ::)


As you know, 100% pure MDMA in HCl form is 84% MDMA 16% salt.

Now this listing is saying it's 87% pure, that means it is 87% pure MDMA-HCl and 13% inactive. You can break this down like so:

- 87% MDMA HCl (with 84% of that 87 being freebase MDMA and 16% being HCl salt)
- 13% inactive filler

When someone talks abut purity of crystalline mdma in their product pages, it is standard to give purity based off the ratios of MDMA salt to impurity... this is not the ratio of MDMA molecules to salt molecules.

If you see a listing that said 100% pure MDMA, that would mean a perfect 100% pure mix of 84% MDMA freebase and 16% HCl salt. It would not mean they have broken science and managed to chemically link freebase MDMA to nothing.

His percentage assumes "MDMA" to be regarded as "MDMA-HCl" which is the norm since it's the way everybody buys it.

Hope this helps clear things up for you.

You mean this "fuzzy math", professor? Do explain how I'm now reiterating what she said... and not reiterating what I said in my OP.

Damage control? Go look at this ad: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c3cd60bf91

Then come back here with an apology for being as profoundly stupid as you just sounded, just then.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Auguest West on June 10, 2013, 02:42 pm
hah! yeah you do definitely have a taste of the ole aspergers

and yeah im calling you out on your shill ass feedback,  and nice name dropping, christy nugs, BajoZero, NorCal420HookUp,  you just pick some random names of good vendors, i dont know the others but funny thing was i just emailed christy and she said he had no clue who the fuck you were?!@?!@  thats a little weird huh??

all im saying is that you are a pretty shady character spouting some pretty obvious bullshit.


Geez not this stupid argument again, yes we all understand the concept of chemistry and we are so happy that you with your aspergers you can troll around SR and point out vendors selling 87% MDMA (Which just isn't posssible!@#!@#)   

Im just curious how half of your vending stats are for a free item called show me your stats and yet youve managed somehow to get feedback on that free item saying how great it was, blah blah blah.  Also pretty interesting how all the feedback reads as if it was written by one person?  Seems pretty damn shady to me.

Yes, Asperger's Syndrome is what leads people to want to stop the spread of misinformation on the Silk Road... your gall is about the only thing you got right now kid.

In fact, that feed back of which you so excitedly attacked, was for one of my free listings and including a graciously over-zealous "variety pack" of my wears. The review is from none-other than "La Blue Girl", right here in the forums. I'm sure she can tell you everything; look in my other thread(the one in my sig). Before you wildly go making assumptions based on my feedback, why don't you take your newbie foot out of your newbie mouth and actually look around the boards a bit. By accusing me of creating shill feedback on SR, you're basically accusing Christy Nugs, BajoZero, NorCal420HookUp, TheZommb, Festivalia, LucyMcgee, and everyone else who stand behind us 100%.

In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary, "Come again?" O_o    Trust me, you didn't look cool just then^, kiddo. You sound massively stupid. Like, PROFOUNDLY dumb. Just thought I should point... that... out... with my Aspergers. Yeah, definitely. Definitely Aspergers.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 10, 2013, 02:50 pm
hah! yeah you do definitely have a taste of the ole aspergers

and yeah im calling you out on your shill ass feedback,  and nice name dropping, christy nugs, BajoZero, NorCal420HookUp,  you just pick some random names of good vendors, i dont know the others but funny thing was i just emailed christy and she said he had no clue who the fuck you were?!@?!@  thats a little weird huh??

all im saying is that you are a pretty shady character spouting some pretty obvious bullshit.


Geez not this stupid argument again, yes we all understand the concept of chemistry and we are so happy that you with your aspergers you can troll around SR and point out vendors selling 87% MDMA (Which just isn't posssible!@#!@#)   

Im just curious how half of your vending stats are for a free item called show me your stats and yet youve managed somehow to get feedback on that free item saying how great it was, blah blah blah.  Also pretty interesting how all the feedback reads as if it was written by one person?  Seems pretty damn shady to me.

Yes, Asperger's Syndrome is what leads people to want to stop the spread of misinformation on the Silk Road... your gall is about the only thing you got right now kid.

In fact, that feed back of which you so excitedly attacked, was for one of my free listings and including a graciously over-zealous "variety pack" of my wears. The review is from none-other than "La Blue Girl", right here in the forums. I'm sure she can tell you everything; look in my other thread(the one in my sig). Before you wildly go making assumptions based on my feedback, why don't you take your newbie foot out of your newbie mouth and actually look around the boards a bit. By accusing me of creating shill feedback on SR, you're basically accusing Christy Nugs, BajoZero, NorCal420HookUp, TheZommb, Festivalia, LucyMcgee, and everyone else who stand behind us 100%.

In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary, "Come again?" O_o    Trust me, you didn't look cool just then^, kiddo. You sound massively stupid. Like, PROFOUNDLY dumb. Just thought I should point... that... out... with my Aspergers. Yeah, definitely. Definitely Aspergers.

I started reading this, while I smoke my Blackwater grown by Christy.... thinking "This has to be sarcasm", but it would appear that you're actually THAT retarded.

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funny thing was i just emailed christy and she said he had no clue who the fuck you were?!@?!@  thats a little weird huh??

and apparently a liar, too.  ;D
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Auguest West on June 10, 2013, 02:56 pm
you can smoke all you want of whatever you want, it wont make your lies any more believable and it still doesn't change the fact you're full of shit =)
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Festivalia on June 10, 2013, 03:15 pm
you can smoke all you want of whatever you want, it wont make your lies any more believable and it still doesn't change the fact you're full of shit =)

Did someone shit in your Oatmeal? I got AE's back 1000%. You sound like a moron(probably because you are.)
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Auguest West on June 10, 2013, 03:19 pm
do you give him a courtesy reach around when you got his back??
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Festivalia on June 10, 2013, 03:26 pm
Actually yeah. Believe it or not, I am kind to those who deserve it. Of course, you would never know because I always just strap your hands down and fuck you til you bleed. But that's because you don't deserve anything better. Especially not a reach around. I can see your envy. /All jokes aside, you still have the intelligence of a stone.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: TheZommb on June 10, 2013, 03:35 pm
hah! yeah you do definitely have a taste of the ole aspergers

and yeah im calling you out on your shill ass feedback,  and nice name dropping, christy nugs, BajoZero, NorCal420HookUp,  you just pick some random names of good vendors, i dont know the others but funny thing was i just emailed christy and she said he had no clue who the fuck you were?!@?!@  thats a little weird huh??

all im saying is that you are a pretty shady character spouting some pretty obvious bullshit.


You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, as I know a few people that use these vendors specifically for many obvious reasons. Also, it is clear that you have not been in contact with Christy, as she most definitely knows who Atlantic Exchange is, and is also willing to allow him to resell to his particular clientele even if they don't meet up with her requirements. The idea is to allow other people that otherwise wouldn't get the opportunity to try her buds for quite some time to order them from a different shipping hub. Also, the idea is to evolve stealth methods from some of the best vendors so that even the newest customers can feel 99% safe ordering from Silk Road. Nobody will ever be 100% certain of their safety, but going out of his way to inform people shows that AE is willing to go above and beyond as a vendor.

Geez not this stupid argument again, yes we all understand the concept of chemistry and we are so happy that you with your aspergers you can troll around SR and point out vendors selling 87% MDMA (Which just isn't posssible!@#!@#)   

Im just curious how half of your vending stats are for a free item called show me your stats and yet youve managed somehow to get feedback on that free item saying how great it was, blah blah blah.  Also pretty interesting how all the feedback reads as if it was written by one person?  Seems pretty damn shady to me.

As mentioned above, those feedbacks were left for custom orders while AE was still in stealth mode contemplating on taking in customers for the first time. So many times we have seen vendors open shop and get completely overwhelmed in the first month, only to be backed up for quite some time afterwards. This also prevents them from thinking out crucial elements of being a vendor on SR, like a valid method of cashing out without raising alarms. Atlantic Exchange knows the hardships that become new vendors, he has been on the Road long enough. Also, saying that his feedback looks like it's from the same person... would you rather it just say a bunch of crap like "5/5 will be back." that explains absolutely nothing about the products/services? Detailed feedback is always nice, as I know that I usually read them more thoroughly than hastily left ones. However, one should never go off of profile feedback alone. Look for reviews in the forums as well, which should be coming very soon, as the first wave of products went out a bit earlier last week. I should have my package later today, and you can expect a detailed report today and tomorrow as I won't be able to roll until tomorrow night.


Honestly, stop attacking someone genuinely trying to spread good information. It makes you look like a tool, and makes these forums one of the worst circle-jerks now. Get off the faggotry bandwagon, and educate yourselves. Funny how nobody attacked the link I posted that CLEARLY states that these vendors posting above 84% purity are fucking daft. Whatever though.

Zommb
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: le botbahn on June 10, 2013, 03:40 pm
Post your "tried and true" GC/MS results right here or gtfo. Aslo stop making a fool of yourself. I'm done arguing with you. You can't seem to grasp some very fundamental concepts which have already been explained to you.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Auguest West on June 10, 2013, 03:42 pm
well i guess we now know thezommb is another account of atlanticexchange, and yup id like to see some lab results too.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Festivalia on June 10, 2013, 03:44 pm
Post your "tried and true" GC/MS results right here or gtfo. Stop making a fool of yourself.

Anyone in the US knows that this would incriminate a vendor if they posted mass spectrometry notes from a registered machine. Are you really going to be that arrogant right now? lol
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Festivalia on June 10, 2013, 03:46 pm
well i guess we now know thezommb is another account of atlanticexchange, and yup id like to see some lab results too.

LMFAO
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: TheZommb on June 10, 2013, 03:47 pm
well i guess we now know thezommb is another account of atlanticexchange, and yup id like to see some lab results too.

Yup. You got me bro.

Zommb
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 10, 2013, 03:49 pm
Well, this is spinning entirely out of hand.

So does anyone in this thread know how to not suck their own toes?

Seriously.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: TheZommb on June 10, 2013, 03:49 pm
Not to mention I live nowhere near the Atlantic.

Zommb
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 10, 2013, 03:51 pm
well i guess we now know thezommb is another account of atlanticexchange, and yup id like to see some lab results too.

I guess we know now that you're 100% retarded. Unlike Le Botbahn who is 84% retarded. 16 HCL salt.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: TheZommb on June 10, 2013, 03:51 pm
Well, this is spinning entirely out of hand.

So does anyone in this thread know how to not suck their own toes?

Seriously.

No, but apparently I can lick YOUR elbow...

Zommb
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 10, 2013, 03:51 pm
Well, this is spinning entirely out of hand.

So does anyone in this thread know how to not suck their own toes?

Seriously.

No, but apparently I can lick YOUR elbow...

Zommb

Lmfao. Shut up SHILL ACCOUNT GUY!
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: le botbahn on June 10, 2013, 03:52 pm
I mean, it's not like he has lab results or anything. I can tell by his blind ignorance on this topic. And that's ok because who would want to work with such an ass anyway? People don't but from loud, argumentive and thick headed vendors anyway. And OP congrats on a little bit of feedback. lol.

His whole strategy here was to shit on competing vendors with his mismisinformed comprehension of chemical purity. Give it a fucking rest dude.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: le botbahn on June 10, 2013, 04:00 pm
I assume that 84% is also the maximum retardation possible in your world?
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Auguest West on June 10, 2013, 04:03 pm
Yup and I wasnt joking about Christy Nugs saying she didnt know the guy.  This guy is shady as fuck
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Festivalia on June 10, 2013, 04:04 pm
I mean, it's not like he has lab results or anything. I can tell by his blind ignorance on this topic. And that's ok because who would want to work with such an ass anyway? People don't but from loud, argumentive and thick headed vendors anyway. And OP congrats on a little bit of feedback. lol.

His whole strategy here was to shit on competing vendors with his mismisinformed comprehension of chemical purity. Give it a fucking rest dude.

Their whole strategy here was to point out an obviously misinformed SR listing. And I believe they did a good job of that, just as Jack N Hoff pointed out that there was another listing of someone else claiming 92% purity versus 8% salts. I'm not sure what the confusion is here, but you're wildly mistaking what the op was pointing out. Perhaps you should re-read everything in this thread man, I'm just not seeing how AE was in the wrong anywhere here.

Facts have been stated, and I as well have studied Chem. I honestly think there's too much bad info going around on these boards. People attacking "the way NL reports" percentages need to take a seat; I've never had better mdma than NL mdma, and if anyone is allowed to set standards in this field; it's the Dutch.

So yeah, what exactly is the confusion? I know AE is a brilliant chick, and she's not here to boast.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: TheZommb on June 10, 2013, 04:05 pm
I mean, it's not like he has lab results or anything. I can tell by his blind ignorance on this topic. And that's ok because who would want to work with such an ass anyway? People don't but from loud, argumentive and thick headed vendors anyway. And OP congrats on a little bit of feedback. lol.

His whole strategy here was to shit on competing vendors with his mismisinformed comprehension of chemical purity. Give it a fucking rest dude.

How are you still going on about HIM being ignorant? Did you even go to the link I provided? Do you want me to quote EVERY ONE of the posters in that topic? You are the one being a troll, and not actually taking the time to observe the other side of the argument. Typical of just about everyone in society these days, thinking they are a fucking monolith of information that cannot be swayed, even with facts that swing in the opposite direction of their "opinions." Have fun being a robot and feeding into what the media and the masses tell you. I bet you love some McDonald's "100% white meat" nuggets too. Funny how we don't ask them to prove their product is real, but you are just going to take a random drug dealer's advice without actually reading up on the subject yourself. Any purity above 84% while MDMA is crystalline is false, but that still does NOT imply adulterated product.

Zommb
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 10, 2013, 04:07 pm
Yup and I wasnt joking about Christy Nugs saying she didnt know the guy.  This guy is shady as fuck


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Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 10, 2013, 04:09 pm
I assume that 84% is also the maximum retardation possible in your world?

If it were, you sir, would be 87% pure. Higher than average. quoting the vendor in my OP. Thanks for the good laughs, virg.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Auguest West on June 10, 2013, 04:09 pm

So yeah, what exactly is the confusion? I know AE is a brilliant chick, and she's not here to boast.

If brilliant means spouts off retarded ass facts that everyone already knows, then yes she is the most brilliant bitch ive ever known.  And not hear to boast, thats all that stupid bitch has done since starting this topic was try to boast, and how about all the name dropping, yeah thats hardly boastful.   

Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 10, 2013, 04:10 pm
I mean, it's not like he has lab results or anything. I can tell by his blind ignorance on this topic. And that's ok because who would want to work with such an ass anyway? People don't but from loud, argumentive and thick headed vendors anyway. And OP congrats on a little bit of feedback. lol.

His whole strategy here was to shit on competing vendors with his mismisinformed comprehension of chemical purity. Give it a fucking rest dude.

Their whole strategy here was to point out an obviously misinformed SR listing. And I believe they did a good job of that, just as Jack N Hoff pointed out that there was another listing of someone else claiming 92% purity versus 8% salts. I'm not sure what the confusion is here, but you're wildly mistaking what the op was pointing out. Perhaps you should re-read everything in this thread man, I'm just not seeing how AE was in the wrong anywhere here.

Facts have been stated, and I as well have studied Chem. I honestly think there's too much bad info going around on these boards. People attacking "the way NL reports" percentages need to take a seat; I've never had better mdma than NL mdma, and if anyone is allowed to set standards in this field; it's the Dutch.

So yeah, what exactly is the confusion? I know AE is a brilliant chick, and she's not here to boast.

Maybe I am here to boast! YOU don't know ME! ;)  :-*
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Auguest West on June 10, 2013, 04:12 pm
I assume that 84% is also the maximum retardation possible in your world?

If it were, you sir, would be 87% pure. Higher than average. quoting the vendor in my OP. Thanks for the good laughs, virg.

and you are a 100% full of shit, christy nugs and now another vendor that you name dropped earlier emailed me back saying they dont even know who the fuck you are. 
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 10, 2013, 04:12 pm

So yeah, what exactly is the confusion? I know AE is a brilliant chick, and she's not here to boast.

If brilliant means spouts off retarded ass facts that everyone already knows, then yes she is the most brilliant bitch ive ever known.  And not hear to boast, thats all that stupid bitch has done since starting this topic was try to boast, and how about all the name dropping, yeah thats hardly boastful.
I mean, it's not like he has lab results or anything. I can tell by his blind ignorance on this topic. And that's ok because who would want to work with such an ass anyway? People don't but from loud, argumentive and thick headed vendors anyway. And OP congrats on a little bit of feedback. lol.

His whole strategy here was to shit on competing vendors with his mismisinformed comprehension of chemical purity. Give it a fucking rest dude.

Aww, looks like you two could handle this little debate amongst yourselves. Both disagreeing with each othr, both trolling my thread. So cute, you should get married. I hear opposite opinions with common enemies last the longest.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: TheZommb on June 10, 2013, 04:16 pm
For those of you who like their MDMA less salty, you might consider any one of the other vendors marketing their products at above 84% purity. I'll stick with Atlantic Exchange, and will review the product myself tomorrow. You really can't get a better deal for domestic anyway.

Zommb
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Auguest West on June 10, 2013, 04:17 pm
what you think are your witty little comebacks are veiled attempts to misdirect the readers of this topic.  it doesnt change the fact you still have no lab results, you claim to know people you dont, you sold a bunch of fake ass scam listings on SR, and all the other shady ass shit you do.  i just wanted SR buyers to see that you are full of shit so they wont waste their time or money on your trick ass.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: le botbahn on June 10, 2013, 04:18 pm
I've never heard of vendor OP clown either before this thread.

I'm getting a strong Coachella429/Infinitesource/Mindblower vibe though. A little too psychotic for a vendor if you ask me.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: le botbahn on June 10, 2013, 04:21 pm
what you think are your witty little comebacks are veiled attempts to misdirect the readers of this topic.  it doesnt change the fact you still have no lab results, you claim to know people you dont, you sold a bunch of fake ass scam listings on SR, and all the other shady ass shit you do.  i just wanted SR buyers to see that you are full of shit so they wont waste their time or money on your trick ass.
Spot on assessment.  You just can't talk any reason with this fool. It's like arguing with the crazy guy at the bus stop.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: Auguest West on June 10, 2013, 04:23 pm
yup,  i just hope the members of SR don't waste their money on this fool.  Its either a scam or something worse but all the bullshit name dropping, the lying, the fake listings and feedback on the account,  hell the whole topic about something everyone already knows about, it all stinks of something to me!
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 10, 2013, 04:26 pm
You know what. EVERYONE in this topic is correct. How is that for the collective Ego of the SR community? lmfao

You're right Le Botbahn, I was wrong for pointing out that a German vendor with green mdma, is claiming its 87% mdma, 13% hcl salts(impossible).

You're right August West, I'm a scammer, and those mention vendors don't know me. And my feedback is all shill. La Blue Girl, Festivalia, Zommb, and 2 other customers of mine, are ALL me also.

And I now pronounce you, Idiot & Douche.
Title: Re: Stop advertizing crystal MDMA as over 84% - That is not possible.
Post by: AtlanticExchange on June 10, 2013, 04:26 pm
yup,  i just hope the members of SR don't waste their money on this fool.  Its either a scam or something worse but all the bullshit name dropping, the lying, the fake listings and feedback on the account,  hell the whole topic about something everyone already knows about, it all stinks of something to me!

You're right, Sherlock, I'm a scammer.

Don't buy from me, I just might esk you for FULL ESCROW(FE) FULL ESCROW. You fucking dolt.