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Market => Product requests => Topic started by: modalsol on July 12, 2013, 05:49 pm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketobemidone
Supposed to the best opiate high around. The US banned it from prescription for being far too addictive (euphoric).
It's still prescription in Scandanavia and parts of Eastern Europe however.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextromoramide
Similarly Palfium is a very potent painkiller and as a result of it's euphoric properties it is now rarely prescribed but still available in some countries.
EDIT: Read the sixth post down for others of significant interest. I may add more as time goes by.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketobemidone
Supposed to the best opiate high around. The US banned it from prescription for being far too addictive (euphoric).
It's still prescription in Scandanavia and parts of Eastern Europe however.
I'm in. Get your act together Scandinavia and Eastern Europe.
Can't be that common if they still shoot krokodil in Russia, poor fuckers.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketobemidone
Supposed to the best opiate high around. The US banned it from prescription for being far too addictive (euphoric).
It's still prescription in Scandanavia and parts of Eastern Europe however.
I'm in. Get your act together Scandinavia and Eastern Europe.
Can't be that common if they still shoot krokodil in Russia, poor fuckers.
Oh wait, Palfium was the first opiate I ever tried, I don't remember much but I was definitely smashed. Probably too smashed in hindsight.
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I'd like some of those too!
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Bump
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BUMP!
Also adding in my posts from other threads:
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From: OXYMORPHONE and other highest grade opiates for trade or buy. *(INSIDE THE EU)
Dilaudid, Opana, Ketobemidone, Palfium. All good in my books.
Also MPPP (or Desmethylprodine) has just popped up on BMR if anyone wants to take the plunge?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPPP
Also if you know your RC's, you'll know how interesting 3-HO-PCP is. If that could be sold, it would be just wonderful.
From: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/504286-PCP-analogs-%28Cumulative%29
3'-HO-PCP
Report:
Now this is a winner. 3mg of this compound taken orally as HCl salt knocked me out. This one must have some serious affinity for morphine sites because I could take less morphine. I leave it marked because its analogs may be serious opioid agonists. Officially, 3’-HO-PCP is like 10% of morphine. The only problem with this compound is that it’s 8 times as potent as PCP at PCP receptor so opioid activity (although it’s hundreds much more pronounced than with PCP) is little when compared. Yet I love this one
The Swedes also have Hydromorphinol it seems. All the best stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydromorphinol
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From: Proglumide
Jesus, I've just had a read about this, it's amazing! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proglumide
"An interesting side effect of proglumide is that it enhances the analgesia produced by opioid drugs, and can prevent or even reverse the development of tolerance to opioid drugs."
Somebody get this in!
**FOUND**
http://kratomdragon.com/international_proglumide.html
Not sure if it's legit though
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Other chemicals I have found elsewhere but wouldn't mind being sold:
I do know of one vendor (jj70) selling Diconal (Dipipanone & Cyclizine) and Pethidine but at very expensive prices so if they could be sourced cheaper that would be great.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipipanone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pethidine
Also O-Desmethyltramadol. This is the more potent metabolite of Tramadol but without the SSRI properties. It still retains the NRI properties however. It was a lot more available a year or so ago but seems to have disappeared recently.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-Desmethyltramadol
Mitragynine and 7-Hydroxymitragynine would be good as well but at a cheaper price than on the surface web at the moment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitragynine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7-hydroxymitragynine
But no AH-7921 or MT-45. They're shit.
(Remember to use your normal browser on all these clearnet links.
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I have access to ketogan novum but they are only the 5mg ones and they come from scandanavia, you interested in that?
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I have access to ketogan novum but they are only the 5mg ones and they come from scandanavia, you interested in that?
Yes definitely! Would they be at a price reflecting their potency though? And if they're coming from Scandanavia, would there be issues with customs and the like or are you outside of there?
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I'd also be interested in your ketogan 5mg if the price is OK... How much would you sell these for?
http://kratomdragon.com/international_proglumide.html
Not sure if it's legit though
I've heard that what they sell isn't actual proglumide unfortunately...
(Remember to use your normal browser on all these clearnet links.)
Don't do that, you should always use tor to open the clearnet links on the forum..
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Don't do that, you should always use tor to open the clearnet links on the forum..
What? Why?
Oh and;
https://www.mimaki-family-japan.com/products/detail.php?product_id=33956
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Don't do that, you should always use tor to open the clearnet links on the forum..
What? Why?
Oh and;
https://www.mimaki-family-japan.com/products/detail.php?product_id=33956
I know some people tell you to open clearnet links outside of tor but that's not a very good idea because it hurts your anonymity. Your ISP can see what wesites you visit if you're not using tor, and can see what websites are linked to on the SR forums because it's public, they could tell if you're coming from SR or not that way, especially if you go to pages that aren't much visited.
Mimaki seems like a good find, do they ship it outside of Japan too??
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Don't do that, you should always use tor to open the clearnet links on the forum..
What? Why?
Oh and;
https://www.mimaki-family-japan.com/products/detail.php?product_id=33956
I know some people tell you to open clearnet links outside of tor but that's not a very good idea because it hurts your anonymity. Your ISP can see what wesites you visit if you're not using tor, and can see what websites are linked to on the SR forums because it's public, they could tell if you're coming from SR or not that way, especially if you go to pages that aren't much visited.
Yeah, I see what you mean. My IP is full of links like that though so it's not a problem!!
Mimaki seems like a good find, do they ship it outside of Japan too??
I think so, I just found them today. Their benzo selection is incredible though, they have shit I've never even heard of. It's like all the Pakistan/India sites but completely upside down!! It has blown my mind.
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Bump for Propofol
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Bumping with MR-2096:
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTnOgzaYUt3gUOdiXDAyVyONs1Ahd7NkbBjDeohVn66V3P18ByA
It's a morphine analogue that looks like a fucking scorpion, active below 5mg.
Another link:
http://stockchem.com/products/research-chemicals/others-rc/131-mr-2096
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Just thought I should post a little bit of info I have about two drug's mentioned in this thread, Dextromoramide & Diconal :P :P Firstly Dextromoroamide (Palfium) if you are considering injecting the peach version, 10mg I think, it is absolutely imperative that the solution is injected very slowly as it has been found that if it is banged up very quickly even the most opiate tolerant person will more than likely OD and possibly not recover especially if doing it on their own. Much better to take the tabs orally as they are still a good buzz. Now Diconal, before the formulation of pink tablets of Dipipanone & Cyclizine were marketed a white tablet called Pipadone was available which contained 10/15 mg of Dipipanone on its own 8) and sure enough the effects of taking this little white tablet orally was very good indeed ;D ;D
I would be very surprised if Pipadone would ever be seen on SR but you can live in hope ;)
Hope this helps for anyone considering using Dextromoramide ;) ;D
Regards
mxl3060
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Yeah, I realised about Palfium, seems like a tricky customer but it makes up for it in affect, right?
However, I had no idea they made pure dipipidone caps back in the day. They sound incredible. Am I right in thinking it's blanket banned in UN treaty's etc? It doesn't really matter in the end though. It must be coveted enough for someone to have some initiative to get into pure powder synths, same with ketobemidone.
There's a few people about selling obscure opioids, these shouldn't be too tricky to whip up. There's certainly a market for it.
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this whole thread just blew my mind
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Bumping with Herkinorin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herkinorin
Very potent u opioid agonist related to Salvinorin A and from what I've heard the conversion from Salvinorin B to Herkinorin isn't too difficult so a simple extraction then relevant synthesis methods to get to it.
Also it's still very legal so it could always be on the cards for 'UK Legal' distribution (they're ALWAYS looking for new drugs that can get around our very far reaching blanket bans)
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I've never tried many of the more popular opioids, let alone this lot. Think i'll stick with the regular ones before I start delving into these (very interesting) unchartered waters. Great thread!!
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Quick bump with a few analogues of my MAIN drug of interest; Ketobemidone
Acetoxy-Ketobemidone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetoxyketobemidone
Methyl-Ketobemidone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylketobemidone
Propyl-Ketobemidone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylketobemidone
To my knowledge these are all legal unless covered by analogue laws but virtually every RC is an analogue that would be subject to these laws, so who really gives a fuck?!
Also Oxymorphazone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxymorphazone
Seems to be legal, similar affect as Oxymorphone, half the dosage unfortunately but can last for up to 48 hours!
Anyway let me know your thoughts, I mean if we can get Butyr-fent and W-15 on the market, why not these?
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Dillies!!!!
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Also Oxymorphazone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxymorphazone
Seems to be legal, similar affect as Oxymorphone, half the dosage unfortunately but can last for up to 48 hours!
Oxymorphazone seems awesome! Good find here.. I don't really know what to think of the ketobemidone analogues since there's so little data available on them...
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I think with the KBD analogues they will all be fairly similar in affect to Ketobemindone itself.
Another little gem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RB-101
The future is now boys and girls, no longer will we have to suffer under addiction
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RB-101 could be a really good potentiator, it doesn't seem to be very euphoric on its own though.. I don't think this or ketobemidone analogues are easily found too :/ Keep finding more interesting things like that!!
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Well with RB-101, not only would it potentiate opioids but it would also reduce both tolerance and dependence. Imagine even the heaviest user suddenly adding a drug to each hit and number one being able to reduce his hit but consequently on each and every next hit reduce it again until he is back to baseline. Possibly in just a week or two. Then once you are at baseline, being able to stop, without withdrawal symptoms, maybe even cravings as well.
It may not look like much but it could mean an end to addiction altogether and with this a new way could be paved for alcohol and cocaine addiction too as opiate addiction is not induced by opiates themselves but the resulting dopamine release, which is the cause of the former of course.
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I didn't say it wasn't interesting, only that it didn't have much recreational potential (but still somewhat it seems). Of course it could be very useful to get off opiates, a lot better than methadone and subutex!
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cool thread, going to look into these
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I didn't say it wasn't interesting, only that it didn't have much recreational potential (but still somewhat it seems).
Oh yeah, of course! Just thought I'd add it in as it pretty much blew my mind when I read about it!
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Bumping with a few more opiates. Some easy to get to, others a little harder.
3-Acetyloxymorphone - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-acetyloxymorphone
Analogue of Oxymorphone, unscheduled and, I would imagine has similar properties as Heroin to Morphine. So higher potency, greater bioavailability and stronger rush. Should be fairly easy to get to from pure oxymorphone and looks like a real winner.
Levacetylmethadol - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levacetylmethadol
Methadone analogue, marketed as Orlaam in cases of unresponsiveness to both Methadone and Buprenorphine. Very long duration of affect (up to 3 days). Came off the market a few years ago due to being too addictive/powerful but some countries still offer it in treatment centers.
Allylprodine - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allylprodine
Analogue of Prodine, however illegal in most places. 23x the potency of Morphine but I imagine the synthesis from Prodine or even Pethidine wouldn't be too difficult.
The Benzomorphans - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzomorphan
There are a number of opioid analogues here. Some have been used successfully in medicine such as Pentazocine, others are completely unresearched. The only method to get to these are through pure synths, however many are legal so would be good for the research chemical market.
Many have mixed u-agonism/antagonism and k-opioid agonism however so this wouldn't bode too well for recreation. There are a couple without this though, such as; 8-CAC, Flurophen, Tonazocine and Alazocine (sigma1 & k agonism and slight NMDA antagonism).
I like to call the benzomorphans, Picassopiates because their structures are so cubist in nature, it's quite beautiful.
Anyway let me know what you think and seriously, if you have access to any of the chems in this thread, make a quick post or PM me. The rarer stuff is so interesting to me.
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3-Acetyloxymorphone - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-acetyloxymorphone
Analogue of Oxymorphone, unscheduled and, I would imagine has similar properties as Heroin to Morphine. So higher potency, greater bioavailability and stronger rush. Should be fairly easy to get to from pure oxymorphone and looks like a real winner.
It doesn't always work like that, substances that are already fat-soluble or have a high affinity for opiate receptors like hydromorphone, oxymorphone, etc. are actually more potent and have a faster onset than their esters. Diacetyldihydromorphine is less potent and has less rush than plain dihydromorphine (which is also an interesting opiate by the way!) for example. The potency may be higher though but you can't go much higher than oxymorphone in terms of rush, I think acetyloxymorphone would work the same as diacetyldihydromorphine. Pure oxymorphone would be so expensive that I really don't think I'd want to risk wasting it..
If you want a strong rush I think nicomorphine would be good, it's apparently better than diacetylmorphine.
An interesting acetylated opiate is "thebacon" (acetylhydrocodone), it's mostly interesting because it's called "the bacon" :P
The Benzomorphans - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzomorphan
There are a number of opioid analogues here. Some have been used successfully in medicine such as Pentazocine, others are completely unresearched. The only method to get to these are through pure synths, however many are legal so would be good for the research chemical market.
Many have mixed u-agonism/antagonism and k-opioid agonism however so this wouldn't bode too well for recreation. There are a couple without this though, such as; 8-CAC, Flurophen, Tonazocine and Alazocine (sigma1 & k agonism and slight NMDA antagonism).
I like to call the benzomorphans, Picassopiates because their structures are so cubist in nature, it's quite beautiful.
Anyway let me know what you think and seriously, if you have access to any of the chems in this thread, make a quick post or PM me. The rarer stuff is so interesting to me.
I don't know if k agonism and mixed agonism/antagonism is really that bad, pentazocine is apparently pretty good, in the same league as hydrocodone if not better when shot. It's pretty cheap in online pharmacies so it's worth it. Nothing as good as oxymorphone, allylprodine or other super strong opioids but still worth something. I like "picassopiates" ;D it's a nice name. Your designer picassopiates are pretty cool too, mostly flurophen. You should try some pentazocine to see what benzomorphans are like.
I wish all those unscheduled opiates would be available on RC markets.. But acetyloxymorphone will be illegal as an analogue in almost every country :(
Have you heard of etonitazene by the way? It's a strong opioid + a dopamine reuptake inhibitor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etonitazene
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I've never seen Oxymorphone for sale on SR. Is it very hard to obtain?
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hey guys anyones still looking for DESOMORPHINE ? Goddamnit I've been looking for this drug FOREVER I know one chemist synthesised it - ruthenium - and told that she will be listing it soon - and then gone - nowhere to be found on forums nor on the silkroad. Desomorphine is currently on my NO 1 to do list of drugs but where the hell do I get it ? Too bad theres no / very few opiod enthuziasts - chemists on Silkroad who would make some rare goodies for us opiod enthuziasts but unfortunately not chemists :(
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hey guys anyones still looking for DESOMORPHINE ? Goddamnit I've been looking for this drug FOREVER I know one chemist synthesised it - ruthenium - and told that she will be listing it soon - and then gone - nowhere to be found on forums nor on the silkroad. Desomorphine is currently on my NO 1 to do list of drugs but where the hell do I get it ? Too bad theres no / very few opiod enthuziasts - chemists on Silkroad who would make some rare goodies for us opiod enthuziasts but unfortunately not chemists :(
Pretty sure I can still get palthium but its not all its cracked up to be, its overwhelming and intense then it just knocks you out.
Also around here are a couple of patients on the 250mg MS Contins (3 in the whole state) and one or two on IV fentanyl and what they call instant release methadone, all meant to be fun but all tightly controlled.
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I love opiates
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Sorry for not replying/bumping for a while, I've been on my holidays :) Opiates have now been out of my system for a good month (with a couple of exceptions hehe! Also K doesn't count does it?!) but I'm still wanting the rare ones, just to taste.
It doesn't always work like that, substances that are already fat-soluble or have a high affinity for opiate receptors like hydromorphone, oxymorphone, etc. are actually more potent and have a faster onset than their esters. Diacetyldihydromorphine is less potent and has less rush than plain dihydromorphine (which is also an interesting opiate by the way!) for example. The potency may be higher though but you can't go much higher than oxymorphone in terms of rush, I think acetyloxymorphone would work the same as diacetyldihydromorphine. Pure oxymorphone would be so expensive that I really don't think I'd want to risk wasting it..
Dammit! I'd forgotten about Diacetyldihydromorphine. I wrote it down with a big question mark next to it too. I guess the only way to find out is to try it but by the same logic with the turbulance of activity in the diacetyls could it not increase potency somewhat more than expected, which would be great but you'd have to go from the microgram mark, Shulgin style, to test it out (I am a willing guinea-pig however!). There's probably some reasoning and logic behind why and how acetylisation causes potency change but I'm; 1. too lazy to look and 2. have to go out soonish so I can't spend too much time researching (once I get into it I'll never get out!).
As for surpassing Oxymorphone's rush, I think we could get a lot further. I mean it is fairly perfect but the right receptor bindings in the right places could take you a lot higher. I myself have had a much stronger rush than Oxymorphone's (however I was using Oxymorphone as a base). Also if a ready and willing chemist is out there then why the hell not, all it would take is maybe a half gram of oxymorphone and you're set. I mean someone out there has 50g of Hydromorphone for sale, I can't imagine a small amount of that in exchange for something new and (hopefully) wonderful would be all that bad.
If you want a strong rush I think nicomorphine would be good, it's apparently better than diacetylmorphine.
An interesting acetylated opiate is "thebacon" (acetylhydrocodone), it's mostly interesting because it's called "the bacon" :P
Nicomorphine, I like it. I had a brief look over it but it never really shone out to me but now that I think about it....
Hehe, Thebacon. I found that too and spent a good amount of time both laughing and thinking of how I could frame a joke about it! Eventually I submitted it to reddit and had an endless amount of comments completely oblivious to the joke. I mean really...thebacon, it's not that hard!
I don't know if k agonism and mixed agonism/antagonism is really that bad, pentazocine is apparently pretty good, in the same league as hydrocodone if not better when shot. It's pretty cheap in online pharmacies so it's worth it. Nothing as good as oxymorphone, allylprodine or other super strong opioids but still worth something. I like "picassopiates" ;D it's a nice name. Your designer picassopiates are pretty cool too, mostly flurophen. You should try some pentazocine to see what benzomorphans are like.
I wish all those unscheduled opiates would be available on RC markets.. But acetyloxymorphone will be illegal as an analogue in almost every country :(
Have you heard of etonitazene by the way? It's a strong opioid + a dopamine reuptake inhibitor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etonitazene
Interesting about the mixed ant/ag's I always thought they'd be light and slightly withdrawal reducing but I have to admit I was fairly interested in getting some pentazocine, thinking it's kappa agonism could make it a nice, opiatey deleriant as I'm accustomed to with the truckload of different antihistamines I collected. Flurophen does look wonderful, it's one I could definitely see entering the RC market and as for the 'Picassopiates', I've got a minor project on to make some form of artwork dedicated to them. I mean it'd be a sin not to!
Strangely enough Britain doesn't have an analogue law...I don't think anyway. I guess it could come under EU/UN analogue sanctions but if I'm being completely honest I don't want to see it on sale there, the fallout would be chaos. However Acetyl-fent. and Butyr-fent. are making their rounds, if anything could be considered an analogue it's them, so maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal.
Etonitazene, I was thinking a lot about this, mostly because it's part indole (that part being almost DET even). I wonder what would happen if you took straight DMT and added a phenyl group with it's para methoxy group on. Would that increase the potency of DMT? How far could you get with this compound? Are we straying into NBOMe territory, where a multitude of new combinations could be formed?
Etonitazene itself is an interesting structure indeed and so are it's analogues (10 or so) but it is way too potent to go to market. Acetoxy-nitazene however...
Desomorphine is currently on my NO 1 to do list of drugs but where the hell do I get it ?
Desomorphine would be good to try, easy to make as well (see Krokodil) but I wouldn't touch anything under 99% purity! Krokodil is the last thing we need on the road! It's paramount to selling paint thinner and glue IMO. Pure, though, go ahead!
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Anyone who can supply any of the boutique opiods please pm me.
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Listen the krokodil is something cooked up like 30 cc water with chemicals and some opiods in it, they inject (very few down and outs) that in russia. I live near Russia so i know the scene. Injecting methadone liquid like 30 cc is normal for some people too. There's no DESOMORPHINE in russia TJHERE's NONE.
Desomorphine - I WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE I WOULD FELL GOOD NOT ONLY FROM A DRUG but from knowing that I'm injecting pure drug while some suckers rot away for the bits of it in chemical solution :)
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As for surpassing Oxymorphone's rush, I think we could get a lot further. I mean it is fairly perfect but the right receptor bindings in the right places could take you a lot higher. I myself have had a much stronger rush than Oxymorphone's (however I was using Oxymorphone as a base). Also if a ready and willing chemist is out there then why the hell not, all it would take is maybe a half gram of oxymorphone and you're set. I mean someone out there has 50g of Hydromorphone for sale, I can't imagine a small amount of that in exchange for something new and (hopefully) wonderful would be all that bad.
Well maybe diacetyldihydromorphine is an exception and it's the only one that becomes less potent and slower acting, so maybe diacetyloxymorphone is better than oxymorphone. How the hell did you get oxymorphone base? Did you know a chemist that made you oxymorphone base? I also wish you could buy grams of oxymorphone on here. 50g of hydromorphone for $3600 is a really good price though, but $3600 isn't nothing and you have to FE... Maybe you could order that and try to make some acetylmorphone to see what it's worth. According to Wikipedia, acetylmorpone should be slower acting than hydromorphone (less rush) so maybe that'd apply to oxymprhone as well. But there aren't any citations to support that so I don't know.
Nicomorphine, I like it. I had a brief look over it but it never really shone out to me but now that I think about it....
Hehe, Thebacon. I found that too and spent a good amount of time both laughing and thinking of how I could frame a joke about it! Eventually I submitted it to reddit and had an endless amount of comments completely oblivious to the joke. I mean really...thebacon, it's not that hard!
Maybe you posted it in the wrong reddit or most guys on there are just stupid :o When it was mentioned on opiophile everybody got the joke!
About Pentazocine, it was often abused mixed with tripelennamine (an antihistamine that's also an SNDRI, seems awesome but impossible to get nowadays), I think it must be really nice if it got abused so much.. In higher doses it becomes dissociative like narcotine I guess but I don't think it's pleasant at these doses. Normal doses seem to be a little dissociative already though, from what I've read.
I'd love to see some benzomorphan artwork! O.o That could be awesome
You must be right about the analogue laws if butyr-fentanyl is legal... Maybe acetyloxymorphone could be legally sold in that case but it would be banned pretty fast I think, the governments wouldn't like it if anybody could buy something 10 times better than heroin online...
Etonitazene has a weird structure but it's not exactly a tryptamine, I'd also be curious to see how 6-nitro-DMT with a p-Ethoxybenzyl would be.. It could work a little like etonitazene then because it'd be very similar... And what about acetoxy nitazene? Do you think that'd be better?
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Anyone who can supply any of the boutique opiods please pm me.
Could I make the same request as the poster above?