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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: tootiefruitie on April 21, 2013, 05:55 pm
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A bit more than 1 Month ago I sent NWD a fairly long message, detailing some concerns. Mainly, it was that the Skywalker Kush I'd just received had seeds in it, and that this seemed like it might be part of a trend of his product quality quickly going downhill. (along with shipping times!) but he had given no notice in the listing of any kind.
He didn't respond for a full month! I gave him the benefit of the doubt, that perhaps he was just busy and didn't need to tell me how good his current product was.... NOPE. The sweet skunk was mostly BROWN and had that washed out generic scent of outdoor crops. The quality was lower to the point that I was embarassed even selling it at a discount.
I hadn't at this point left any feedback for NWD. (I commonly do this, and then often go back later to submit it) Since he sold me far below par quality, shipped out well after marking in transit, and still hadn't responded to my complaints in A MONTH...I wasn't about to leave good feedback for the BAIT half of a BAIT AND SWITCH.
He responded within hours of the feedback being left. I at no time asked for BTC or reships in return. I gave him A FUCKING MONTH to respond before taking it public in ANY WAY. His immediate response? "I'm going to blacklist you from other vendors." that I am somehow the "scumbag." The guy who finalized within 24hrs of arrival, and patiently waited for a response, then ordered again because the very last result I wanted to come to was that NWD was dishonest.
Here is a print-to-file of the relevant page of messages:
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/vv.jpeg
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If I were a vendor I'd find it kinda messed up to change your feedback from 5/5 to 1/5 after a month.. especially on multiple orders.
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well.. switch venders..
make a new account u got fucked bro.. or change ur feedback back to 5/5
and make a deal with him to take u off the blacklist..
sucks venders can do that.. i have absurdly perfect buyer stats
so i think if he even dared to do that to me other venders would just laugh.
but hey.. if ur close to other venders and u explain it to em before ordering i think u should be fine..
up to u tho.. u got two roads to go down
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If I were a vendor I'd find it kinda messed up to change your feedback from 5/5 to 1/5 after a month.. especially on multiple orders.
did you read ANY of what I said? I'd never left a 5/5. No feedback was changed. It was sitting empty waiting to be submitted the whole time. You really expect me to leave 5/5 after it all played out?
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well.. switch venders..
make a new account u got fucked bro.. or change ur feedback back to 5/5
and make a deal with him to take u off the blacklist..
sucks venders can do that.. i have absurdly perfect buyer stats
so i think if he even dared to do that to me other venders would just laugh.
but hey.. if ur close to other venders and u explain it to em before ordering i think u should be fine..
up to u tho.. u got two roads to go down
There are plenty of other vendors who know me well. I'm not worried about having to replace this account at all. I posted this to warn buyers who are less established, and also to bring to light that vendors are (still) attempting to bully buyers.
what do you mean change it BACK? please read what I said in the OP.... I'd never left a 5/5 in the first place.
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leaving a 1/5 is pretty freaking harsh....that really hurts a vendor, and i would probably only do it if i ordered like an eightball of coke and received a package of baby powder....and then i might still leave higher than a 1/5 if the shipping and stealth were good! hah!
i know he waited a month to respond to your complaints, but a 1/5 is pretty downright dirty.
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1/5 isn't a small deal. Then again maybe you do have a good reason for it. I really don't know. A friend of mine bought a few items from this seller and it was confirmed that the weed was sprayed. I'm not trying to say this guy is bad because you don't get to the top of the best sellers list being a shit vendor, but the weed my man recieved was indeed sprayed.
Either way, when you talk shit about it on the forum be prepared for the vendor to get all kinds of pissed and want some revenge, so tread with caution. You should know that my friend left 5/5's for all of the product he recieved, knowing that it was sprayed. If you leave less than that it can ruin a reputation.
At the end of the day, the vendor should have responded to you earlier. This is why communication is so important.
Chaos
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Not 100% sure but I do think that I've seen some other threads about this guy sending brown shit as high quality weed and his product not even being the same as what is pictured.
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If I were a vendor I'd find it kinda messed up to change your feedback from 5/5 to 1/5 after a month.. especially on multiple orders.
did you read ANY of what I said? I'd never left a 5/5. No feedback was changed. It was sitting empty waiting to be submitted the whole time. You really expect me to leave 5/5 after it all played out?
I see. When you said you didn't leave feedback, I didn't realize you meant you didn't finalize the order.
I'd look at it like this... he sent you decent weed not the best but for the price you couldn't be expecting the best, maybe dock a point or two for the seeds and lack of communication and find another vendor to deal with. 1/5 just sounds overly harsh.
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A bit more than 1 Month ago I sent NWD a fairly long message, detailing some concerns. Mainly, it was that the Skywalker Kush I'd just received had seeds in it, and that this seemed like it might be part of a trend of his product quality quickly going downhill. (along with shipping times!) but he had given no notice in the listing of any kind.
He didn't respond for a full month! I gave him the benefit of the doubt, that perhaps he was just busy and didn't need to tell me how good his current product was.... NOPE. The sweet skunk was mostly BROWN and had that washed out generic scent of outdoor crops. The quality was lower to the point that I was embarassed even selling it at a discount.
I hadn't at this point left any feedback for NWD. (I commonly do this, and then often go back later to submit it) Since he sold me far below par quality, shipped out well after marking in transit, and still hadn't responded to my complaints in A MONTH...I wasn't about to leave good feedback for the BAIT half of a BAIT AND SWITCH.
He responded within hours of the feedback being left. I at no time asked for BTC or reships in return. I gave him A FUCKING MONTH to respond before taking it public in ANY WAY. His immediate response? "I'm going to blacklist you from other vendors." that I am somehow the "scumbag." The guy who finalized within 24hrs of arrival, and patiently waited for a response, then ordered again because the very last result I wanted to come to was that NWD was dishonest.
Here is a print-to-file of the relevant page of messages:
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/vv.jpeg
any updates friend ?
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1/5 is absolute worst case scenario. Is your situation a worst case scenario? No it's not even close. Therefore, IMO, you're abusing the rating system and I don't blame him. Your situation at most would represent a 3/5, but I personally don't see anything less than 4/5 justifiable.
The weed wasn't as good as you expected, oh well, leave it in the ratings with a 4/5 and move onto a new vendor.