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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: aussiepp on June 03, 2013, 07:29 am
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Kangaroostew: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/f4ccf569c1
Kangaroostew is a new Australian vendor who is currently selling speed (amphetamine). This thread is essentially for people to post their reviews and opinions on the vendors product. I received some of kangaroostew's amphetamine today and I'll be leaving my review below:
I received the product about 4 hours ago. The stealth was great. The product was vac sealed and had that classic amphetamine smell. It was a brownish, slightly clumpy powder (it was rather crystally looking). To begin, I made up a few lines and insuffulated them. Man, they burned the sinuses but that's as expected. About 10 minutes later I was hit with a nice amount of energy and a mild euphoric feeling. I snorted a few more decent sized lines then decided I would smoke the rest. The speed liquified very quickly and smoked nicely, it had that distinct sweet amphetamine taste and smell. The buzz was very nice and euphoric and I pretty much continuously smoked it until it was all gone. When I ran out... I definitely wanted more, haha. The high is very energetic and social. I've had consistent tingling and chills, very nice and euphoric! Honestly, this is some of the best gear I've ever had. I'll definitely be buying from this vendor!
Overall, I think this vendor is a keeper. Great communication, fantastic stealth and very very nice product. So far, I give this vendor a 10/10.
If you buy this vendors product, do make sure you post your review!
Cheers!
-AussiePP
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Recently purchased a half-gram of speed from vendor Kangaroostew
Kangaroostew: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/f4ccf569c1
COMMUNICATION: 5/5
I first contacted the vendor before purchasing with a few general questions about smell and users reports in regards to method of ingestion (IV, Snort, Eating, Smoking). Communication from kangaroostew is without question top-notch, he answered my questions perfectly, directly and in a timely manner without the general rushed message feel you can sometimes get with other vendor communications.
POSTAGE: 5/5
Finalized early for this vendor as there has been no complaints about non-arrivals of goods purchased and the vendor is well received by the SR community regarding trust worthy transactions. The package was marked as "in-transit" on the day of purchase and arrived on the 4th business day via AUSPOST express, although postage was a little slow, I am situated in QLD in a non-metro area (post sometimes takes a day or two extra) so I cannot give an insight regarding postage to metro-areas (Large cities/Capitals) but from reading feedback my understanding is that the time-frame of postage to these areas is outstanding.
QUALITY: 5/5 (In comparison to the more then fair price)
Now the important question most people are wondering to themselves "Such a cheap price! What about quality!?" The simple fact of the matter is that the amphetamine is of a reasonable quality in comparison to the cheap price the product is offered at. My method of ingestion was IV at 0.25 (half the HG) the overall feeling was euphoric, focused and chatty as fuck! Which in my experience is the desired effect of amphetamine. The only issue when IV'ing gear was that there was a few contaminants, which was a couple of little black specs floating around in the solution, which nothing that a filter can't fix!
My overall experience when making a purchase from Kangaroostew was a pleasant and seamless one, with the overall product arriving as advertised, perfect weight (Bit over <3 THANKS STEW).
JUST A LITTLE EDIT: Somethings I forgot to mention, Stealth was 5/5 it even made me laugh! The gear smoked fine, liquified quickly and lasted a reasonable amount of time in the pipe (remember its not the same as ice/meth). Tasted a little different as I am use to only smoking ice and rarely speed so I'm not really an authority when it comes to smoking speed and how it should taste.
Recommended Seller! Thanks Stew!
Dustyy ~!
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Recently purchased a half-gram of speed from vendor Kangaroostew
Kangaroostew: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/f4ccf569c1
COMMUNICATION: 5/5
I first contacted the vendor before purchasing with a few general questions about smell and users reports in regards to method of ingestion (IV, Snort, Eating, Smoking). Communication from kangaroostew is without question top-notch, he answered my questions perfectly, directly and in a timely manner without the general rushed message feel you can sometimes get with other vendor communications.
POSTAGE: 5/5
Finalized early for this vendor as there has been no complaints about non-arrivals of goods purchased and the vendor is well received by the SR community regarding trust worthy transactions. The package was marked as "in-transit" on the day of purchase and arrived on the 4th business day via AUSPOST express, although postage was a little slow, I am situated in North QLD in a non-metro area (post sometimes takes a day or two extra) so I cannot give an insight regarding postage to metro-areas (Large cities/Capitals) but from reading feedback my understanding is that the time-frame of postage to these areas is outstanding.
QUALITY: 5/5 (In comparison to the more then fair price)
Now the important question most people are wondering to themselves "Such a cheap price! What about quality!?" The simple fact of the matter is that the amphetamine is of a reasonable quality in comparison to the cheap price the product is offered at. My method of ingestion was IV at 0.25 (half the HG) the overall feeling was euphoric, focused and chatty as fuck! Which in my experience is the desired effect of amphetamine. The only issue when IV'ing gear was that there was a few contaminants, which was a couple of little black specs floating around in the solution, which nothing that a filter can't fix!
My overall experience when making a purchase from Kangaroostew was a pleasant and seamless one, with the overall product arriving as advertised, perfect weight (Bit over <3 THANKS STEW).
Recommended Seller! Thanks Stew!
Dustyy ~!
I'm glad to see another shining review!
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Of course! I make a point of reviewing when I have a great experience with vendors! =D
P.S, I made an edit to my original review regarding stealth and smoking quality which I forgot to add originally.
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Of course! I make a point of reviewing when I have a great experience with vendors! =D
P.S, I made an edit to my original review regarding stealth and smoking quality which I forgot to add originally.
I can;t wait to purchase some more gear from KS. I think I'll be buying the higher purity just out iof curiosity. :)
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This vendor caught my interest...
Why would a vendor offer a product, then a few weeks later, add another listing for the same product at a higher purity? Doesn't this indicate that the vendor is cutting the product himself?
I can't think of any other way he could be legitimately sending out a "higher strength" product than the initial one offered. Obviously, it's possible the high strength product is simply him washing/recrystalizing it, but almost any solvent wash would result in white, or near white powder, not the brown rocks pictured in the listing, so its extremely unlikely unless he's just very bad at decanting the solvent.
Either way, it seems extremely dodgy.
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Can anyone comment on what smoking his speed is like compared to ice? Ie, how much speed would compare to a good point and if there's a lot of difference in the high. I've only ever smoked shard but would be interested in this if it was decent.
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This vendor caught my interest...
Why would a vendor offer a product, then a few weeks later, add another listing for the same product at a higher purity? Doesn't this indicate that the vendor is cutting the product himself?
I can't think of any other way he could be legitimately sending out a "higher strength" product than the initial one offered. Obviously, it's possible the high strength product is simply him washing/recrystalizing it, but almost any solvent wash would result in white, or near white powder, not the brown rocks pictured in the listing, so its extremely unlikely unless he's just very bad at decanting the solvent.
Either way, it seems extremely dodgy.
As far as I know, purity of Amphetamine can greatly vary depending on how efficient the synthesis is. It could just be a purer batch. I've PM'd the vendor just to make sure.
Can anyone comment on what smoking his speed is like compared to ice? Ie, how much speed would compare to a good point and if there's a lot of difference in the high. I've only ever smoked shard but would be interested in this if it was decent.
Honestly man, I much prefer smoking speed. It's a lot more subtle and I just overall enjoy the experience more. It doesn't tweak you the fuck out like Shards.
Price and weight wise, you get a lot more out of smoking ice. It goes a lot further and gets you much more fucked.
I find the high to be a lot more subtle and not as intense and the comedown is MUCH easier. A point or 2 of shard lasts much longer then let's say a half gram of speed.
It all kind of comes down to personal preference.
If you want to get super fucked up, smoke shard. If you want more for your money, smoke shard.
Personally, I much prefer the high from Amphetamine rather than Meth but that's just my personal preference. One for their own I guess.
Amphetamine is my preference.
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This vendor caught my interest...
Why would a vendor offer a product, then a few weeks later, add another listing for the same product at a higher purity? Doesn't this indicate that the vendor is cutting the product himself?
I can't think of any other way he could be legitimately sending out a "higher strength" product than the initial one offered. Obviously, it's possible the high strength product is simply him washing/recrystalizing it, but almost any solvent wash would result in white, or near white powder, not the brown rocks pictured in the listing, so its extremely unlikely unless he's just very bad at decanting the solvent.
Either way, it seems extremely dodgy.
As far as I know, purity of Amphetamine can greatly vary depending on how efficient the synthesis is. It could just be a purer batch. I've PM'd the vendor just to make sure.
Can anyone comment on what smoking his speed is like compared to ice? Ie, how much speed would compare to a good point and if there's a lot of difference in the high. I've only ever smoked shard but would be interested in this if it was decent.
Honestly man, I much prefer smoking speed. It's a lot more subtle and I just overall enjoy the experience more. It doesn't tweak you the fuck out like Shards.
Price and weight wise, you get a lot more out of smoking ice. It goes a lot further and gets you much more fucked.
I find the high to be a lot more subtle and not as intense and the comedown is MUCH easier. A point or 2 of shard lasts much longer then let's say a half gram of speed.
It all kind of comes down to personal preference.
If you want to get super fucked up, smoke shard. If you want more for your money, smoke shard.
Personally, I much prefer the high from Amphetamine rather than Meth but that's just my personal preference. One for their own I guess.
Amphetamine is my preference.
Cheers for that man, guess ill just have to get some and try it out. I love smoking shard but I try not to too much cause the couple days after I can't stop thinking about it .
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This vendor caught my interest...
Why would a vendor offer a product, then a few weeks later, add another listing for the same product at a higher purity? Doesn't this indicate that the vendor is cutting the product himself?
I can't think of any other way he could be legitimately sending out a "higher strength" product than the initial one offered. Obviously, it's possible the high strength product is simply him washing/recrystalizing it, but almost any solvent wash would result in white, or near white powder, not the brown rocks pictured in the listing, so its extremely unlikely unless he's just very bad at decanting the solvent.
Either way, it seems extremely dodgy.
As far as I know, purity of Amphetamine can greatly vary depending on how efficient the synthesis is. It could just be a purer batch. I've PM'd the vendor just to make sure.
Can anyone comment on what smoking his speed is like compared to ice? Ie, how much speed would compare to a good point and if there's a lot of difference in the high. I've only ever smoked shard but would be interested in this if it was decent.
Honestly man, I much prefer smoking speed. It's a lot more subtle and I just overall enjoy the experience more. It doesn't tweak you the fuck out like Shards.
Price and weight wise, you get a lot more out of smoking ice. It goes a lot further and gets you much more fucked.
I find the high to be a lot more subtle and not as intense and the comedown is MUCH easier. A point or 2 of shard lasts much longer then let's say a half gram of speed.
It all kind of comes down to personal preference.
If you want to get super fucked up, smoke shard. If you want more for your money, smoke shard.
Personally, I much prefer the high from Amphetamine rather than Meth but that's just my personal preference. One for their own I guess.
Amphetamine is my preference.
Cheers for that man, guess ill just have to get some and try it out. I love smoking shard but I try not to too much cause the couple days after I can't stop thinking about it .
No worries mate. Meth is easily the most addictive drug (at least in my opinion)
And just as a heads up, I find that orally taking amphetamine has the best effect as it lasts longer and seems to be much more efficient. You'll get more out of the product if you orally take it but personally, I just love twirling the pipe. I can't help myself haha.
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Okay guys, I've been in contact with kangaroostew regarding the cuts.
When it comes to Amphetamines, they are generally cut with something. In this case, it's been cut with MSM, which is a common cut. When you look at how cheap the vendors listings are the price highly reflects the quality.
Since people have been requesting a stronger product, that's what the vendor has done. He is introducing the base amphetamine product with a higher price reflecting the purity. Which makes sense.
If there are any other questions regarding the product, PM the vendor and he will be able to answer your questions. Otherwise post in here and I'll contact the guy and post his reply in the thread.
-AussiePP
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As far as I know, purity of Amphetamine can greatly vary depending on how efficient the synthesis is. It could just be a purer batch. I've PM'd the vendor just to make sure.
Incorrect, or at least, incomplete. Yes, purity can vary depending on if you synth via PPA, P2P, or P2NP, but only by 5-10%, if your post reaction workup(Which is identical regardless of how its synthesized) is adequate, you will invariably get a white, or slightly pale yellowish powder. Brown is not indicative of any impurities from production, but a pretty obvious sign of a cutting agent.(Or a smuggler that forgot to wipe)
Can anyone comment on what smoking his speed is like compared to ice? Ie, how much speed would compare to a good point and if there's a lot of difference in the high. I've only ever smoked shard but would be interested in this if it was decent.
Honestly man, I much prefer smoking speed. It's a lot more subtle and I just overall enjoy the experience more. It doesn't tweak you the fuck out like Shards.
Price and weight wise, you get a lot more out of smoking ice. It goes a lot further and gets you much more fucked.
I find the high to be a lot more subtle and not as intense and the comedown is MUCH easier. A point or 2 of shard lasts much longer then let's say a half gram of speed.
It all kind of comes down to personal preference.
If you want to get super fucked up, smoke shard. If you want more for your money, smoke shard.
Personally, I much prefer the high from Amphetamine rather than Meth but that's just my personal preference. One for their own I guess.
Amphetamine is my preference.
This paragraph worries me. Amphetamine sulphate(and phosphate, which is almost never seen in a non-pharm setting) is impossible to smoke. The BP of amphetamine sulphate is too close to its degradation point. Perhaps in a laboratory setting with a nice heating mantle(as well as a fuckload of wasted speed due to round bottom flasks not exactly making the best crackpipes) it may be possible to vaporize amphetamine sulphate, but for the average joe tweaker, you are just going to end up with a bunch of charred shit no matter how good you think you are at heating the pipe.
Given that, and the other inconsistencies, it really seems like you are trying to push a product rather than give an unbias opinion. I hate seeing disgruntled customers calling shill on every person who gives a vendor a good review, but this really does seem somewhat forced.
Addendum: For those wondering, it "may" be possible to smoke Amphetamine HCl, I'm not sure due to information on that particular salt being exceedingly rare. That being said, the reason why there isn't much info on Amphetamine HCl is because its so damn difficult to make. It's extraordinarily hydroscopic, and most attempts made by even some of the more skilled clandestine chemists have resulted in either complete failure, or a gooey mess.
A relevant(clearnet) link:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-601142.html?s=80f2eeb83e88f0e2b4cc21dfde211d1d
This poster pretty much nails it:
I can confirm that amphetamine HCl is pretty damn hygroscopic. Small amounts of dry amphetamine HCl turns into droplets of solution/paste when left in the free air for a few minutes. However AFAIK most amphetamine encountered on the black market is the sulfate because it is much easier to work with (less hygroscopic). I actually think a lot of dealers cut amphetamine with water or alcohol because many people believe that pure amphetamine salts are liquid (thats a common misconception in Europe anyways).
the alcohol is to make it smell like it has come fresh from a factory with solvents and to make an even cut (when cutting the product with glucose). makes it smell and seem quite pure
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As far as I know, purity of Amphetamine can greatly vary depending on how efficient the synthesis is. It could just be a purer batch. I've PM'd the vendor just to make sure.
Incorrect, or at least, incomplete. Yes, purity can vary depending on if you synth via PPA, P2P, or P2NP, but only by 5-10%, if your post reaction workup(Which is identical regardless of how its synthesized) is adequate, you will invariably get a white, or slightly pale yellowish powder. Brown is not indicative of any impurities from production, but a pretty obvious sign of a cutting agent.(Or a smuggler that forgot to wipe)
Can anyone comment on what smoking his speed is like compared to ice? Ie, how much speed would compare to a good point and if there's a lot of difference in the high. I've only ever smoked shard but would be interested in this if it was decent.
Honestly man, I much prefer smoking speed. It's a lot more subtle and I just overall enjoy the experience more. It doesn't tweak you the fuck out like Shards.
Price and weight wise, you get a lot more out of smoking ice. It goes a lot further and gets you much more fucked.
I find the high to be a lot more subtle and not as intense and the comedown is MUCH easier. A point or 2 of shard lasts much longer then let's say a half gram of speed.
It all kind of comes down to personal preference.
If you want to get super fucked up, smoke shard. If you want more for your money, smoke shard.
Personally, I much prefer the high from Amphetamine rather than Meth but that's just my personal preference. One for their own I guess.
Amphetamine is my preference.
This paragraph worries me. Amphetamine sulphate(and phosphate, which is almost never seen in a non-pharm setting) is impossible to smoke. The BP of amphetamine sulphate is too close to its degradation point. Perhaps in a laboratory setting with a nice heating mantle(as well as a fuckload of wasted speed due to round bottom flasks not exactly making the best crackpipes) it may be possible to vaporize amphetamine sulphate, but for the average joe tweaker, you are just going to end up with a bunch of charred shit no matter how good you think you are at heating the pipe.
Given that, and the other inconsistencies, it really seems like you are trying to push a product rather than give an unbias opinion. I hate seeing disgruntled customers calling shill on every person who gives a vendor a good review, but this really does seem somewhat forced.
Addendum: For those wondering, it "may" be possible to smoke Amphetamine HCl, I'm not sure due to information on that particular salt being exceedingly rare. That being said, the reason why there isn't much info on Amphetamine HCl is because its so damn difficult to make. It's extraordinarily hydroscopic, and most attempts made by even some of the more skilled clandestine chemists have resulted in either complete failure, or a gooey mess.
A relevant(clearnet) link:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-601142.html?s=80f2eeb83e88f0e2b4cc21dfde211d1d
This poster pretty much nails it:
I can confirm that amphetamine HCl is pretty damn hygroscopic. Small amounts of dry amphetamine HCl turns into droplets of solution/paste when left in the free air for a few minutes. However AFAIK most amphetamine encountered on the black market is the sulfate because it is much easier to work with (less hygroscopic). I actually think a lot of dealers cut amphetamine with water or alcohol because many people believe that pure amphetamine salts are liquid (thats a common misconception in Europe anyways).
the alcohol is to make it smell like it has come fresh from a factory with solvents and to make an even cut (when cutting the product with glucose). makes it smell and seem quite pure
For fuck sake mate... I never once said I was on expert on Amphetamine. I'm simply writing from my own experience.
If you look at the vendors feedback, he has been getting exceptional reviews. Which I assume is for a reason.
And yes, I have smoked the product and many others have as well... even though I believe it would have been more efficient to snort/oral.
If you have any specific synthesis questions that I simply can not answer, PM the vendor.
-AussiePP
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I was a bit too harsh in my previous message for sure, I apologize for that, the amount of purely "shill"y posts spreading misinformation has started to get to me lately.
That being said, my previous message regarding the physical properties of amphetamine suphate remains true. The chemical will be pyrolized if one attempts to smoke it, resulting in absolutely no effect.
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I was a bit too harsh in my previous message for sure, I apologize for that, the amount of purely "shill"y posts spreading misinformation has started to get to me lately.
That being said, my previous message regarding the physical properties of amphetamine suphate remains true. The chemical will be pyrolized if one attempts to smoke it, resulting in absolutely no effect.
That's okay mate. I appreciate and accept the apology.
There's a reason why I make reviews for new vendors. It is very difficult for a new and legitimate vendor to get on their feet. I help them out by testing their product and providing them exposure by truthfully leaving them detailed reviews. I've done this for many new vendors and I'm yet to receive dodgy product. I feel I'm a respected member of the Aussie SR community and I'm doing my best to assist new vendors achieve success. After all, Silk Road is a revolution and I'm simply doing what I can to support the concept. Call me a shill, I don't mind. All of the biggest vendors start somewhere, in my eyes, for all we know, I could be assisting one of the next big vendors
And you may be right about the speed but I don't understand. I smoked it and it got both a friend and I pretty buzzed. Other people claim to have smoked it with success also. I did insuffulate most of it so I'm really not sure. Like I said before, if anyone has questions, PM kangaroostew.
Kind Regards,
-AussiePP
P.S. Sorry if any of that didn't make sense. I'm nodding off bad and can't be fucked re-reading lol.
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I was a bit too harsh in my previous message for sure, I apologize for that, the amount of purely "shill"y posts spreading misinformation has started to get to me lately.
That being said, my previous message regarding the physical properties of amphetamine suphate remains true. The chemical will be pyrolized if one attempts to smoke it, resulting in absolutely no effect.
That's okay mate. I appreciate and accept the apology.
There's a reason why I make reviews for new vendors. It is very difficult for a new and legitimate vendor to get on their feet. I help them out by testing their product and providing them exposure by truthfully leaving them detailed reviews. I've done this for many new vendors and I'm yet to receive dodgy product. I feel I'm a respected member of the Aussie SR community and I'm doing my best to assist new vendors achieve success. After all, Silk Road is a revolution and I'm simply doing what I can to support the concept. Call me a shill, I don't mind. All of the biggest vendors start somewhere, in my eyes, for all we know, I could be assisting one of the next big vendors
And you may be right about the speed but I don't understand. I smoked it and it got both a friend and I pretty buzzed. Other people claim to have smoked it with success also. I did insuffulate most of it so I'm really not sure. Like I said before, if anyone has questions, PM kangaroostew.
Kind Regards,
-AussiePP
P.S. Sorry if any of that didn't make sense. I'm nodding off bad and can't be fucked re-reading lol.
Thats relatively simple, caffiene is perfectly smokable. Some idiot trying to make a political statement threw up a youtube video of him smoking "caffeine crack" in public a few years ago I think? It'll give you a stimulant type rush, without the CNS stimulation. For people who havn't learned to differentiate the rush from a CNS stim and that of a peripheral stimulant, they could mistake it for an amphetamine high.
I also get what you are saying regarding new, legitimate vendors having a tough time making a name, I was distracted by how obviously illegitimate this guy seems to be and you copped the flak.
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The stronger stuff is the way to go and totally worth the extra money. Nice speed tingles and all. Top bloke and top vendor!