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Title: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: bob303bobmk2 on December 27, 2012, 06:14 am
I'm currently a weed seller, but I just finished a personal extraction of mescaline acetate and I could do it large scale.

I't'd have to be 50 dollars a gram, which is 2-5 doses.

Any interest?
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on December 27, 2012, 06:23 am
Based on my previous thread http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90243 I think you would do very well.

$50/gram would sell out almost immediately.

List it right away and get some rep and you will have much success.

As a side note - how is the consistency of your finished product?  Every time I tried acetate it turned into a sticky mess I was unable to clean and this is why I stuck with HCL.
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: bob303bobmk2 on December 27, 2012, 08:46 pm
I've done a few batches now, the first batch was horrible brown sticky mess, but after that batch I improved my method and now I yield between 1.5 and 3 g of off white waxy powder per 100 g of cactus. (I've only used San Pedro)

PM me! I'd love to talk to you about the mesc HCL method.

Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: MasterHaze on December 28, 2012, 01:06 am
Yeah especially with that price. Do it man! ;D
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: moonflower on December 28, 2012, 01:44 am
Yeah especially with that price. Do it man! ;D
for real. the road is seriously lacking in affordable mescaline!
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: themrhaircut on December 28, 2012, 02:47 am
I'd stock up. I've never tried it and have been dying to.

Please please please!
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: nuyt on December 28, 2012, 03:00 am
Oh yes. The jar labeled 'mescaline' in my cupboard is empty, has been for quite a while actually. I along with a lot of others would greatly appreciate the chance to stock up on some good bang for the buck mesc. :D
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: beefy on December 28, 2012, 03:10 am
Nice, That sounds like a good price.
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: camelherder on December 28, 2012, 03:20 am
3 grams of Mescaline acetate from 100g of Pedro?  U sure  :-\

A reasonable mescaline yield from Trichocereus pachanois is said to be around 300mg per 100g of cactus...

Unless I have misunderstood you or you have misplaced a decimal point... that kinda sounds whack.

Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on December 28, 2012, 03:41 am
A reasonable mescaline yield from Trichocereus pachanois is said to be around 300mg per 100g of cactus...

According to who?

3.grams is on the high end for San Pedro but I have gotten 3.5g with Peruvian Torch.  Of the San Pedro I was getting over the past couple of years I was getting between 750 - 1400 mg usually depending on the batch.

If you look on DMT-Nexus the amounts people get vary greatly.  Source and technique and purity of final product all greatly affect yield.
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: camelherder on December 28, 2012, 04:56 am
A reasonable mescaline yield from Trichocereus pachanois is said to be around 300mg per 100g of cactus...

According to who?



Just some old geezer .... Jim Dekorne - Psychedelic Shamanism

Quote from: Dekorne cited on Erowid
"T. pachanoi 300 mg dose of mescaline contained in 100.0 grams of dry material. T. peruvianus 300 mg dose of mescaline contained in 37.5 grams of dry material. L. williamsii 300 mg dose of mescaline contained in 27.0 grams of dry material."
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_guide/cacti_guide17.shtml

Quote from: hoobydoobydoo
3.grams is on the high end for San Pedro but I have gotten 3.5g with Peruvian Torch.  Of the San Pedro I was getting over the past couple of years I was getting between 750 - 1400 mg usually depending on the batch.
If you look on DMT-Nexus the amounts people get vary greatly.  Source and technique and purity of final product all greatly affect yield.

Amounts vary for sure I just think 3gs is a tad optimistic *shrug* but the product will tell the story in the end... and I'm grateful someone is going to the effort... I know I will definitely buy some :)

Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on December 28, 2012, 05:23 am
Erowid contains a lot of misleading, outdated, and contradicting information.   The reality is that San Pedro cacti can have more mescaline than peruviana and vice versa.  Many things affect the content. This quote makes it sound like it is a very scientific percentage for all cacti of a particular type.

There could be some confusion in what is considered dry cactus material.  Almost all of the Alkaloids in the cacti are located in the outer green flesh.  The white stuff inside is mostly inert.

What is traditionally sold on the internet as San Pedro Powder is often advertised as only the outer green flesh.  This is rarely true and this discrepancy makes up for a lot of the variance in different product.

300mg would be very low for what is traditionally sold as San Pedro powder.  Even when I have really fucked up my tek I've usually gotten at least 500mg mesc HCL.  Maybe he is referring to a mixture of outer green flesh and some of the inert stuff in the middle.  Who knows.

At the end of the day you are exactly right - his product can do the talking and once it is out and we can all quit speculating about the mescaline concentration of his cactus source and/or purity of his final product.  :-)
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: Buckfuddr on December 28, 2012, 07:05 am
I think that would sell pretty fast, it's pretty rare on SR. I see the cacti up for sale now and then but never any final product so there is definitely a market for it.
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: bob303bobmk2 on December 28, 2012, 07:10 am
Haha, well you're all a little bit right, I meant 3 g from 200 g cactus. 300 mg is a tiny yield though!

I'll look into setting this up larger scale...

In the meantime, help me fund it! Buy some weed :P
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: zapatista36 on December 28, 2012, 02:56 pm
U bet ur ass I'm interested in mescaline - just tell me u'll ship to the UK. Bob303 if u know this much info on extracting acetate where others are struggling - and it's good - I'm in.  When are u likely to post listings as I imagine they're gonna last about as long as Kaiser Sozay?
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: incogmagnito on January 28, 2013, 06:54 pm
Yes, bob303, please!!!
I will go for 1 to 5 grams straight off
Or have you decided not to do it?
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: RaFaeL5 on January 28, 2013, 07:11 pm
Great idea!

Where would you be willing to ship to?
Domestic only?
Would that be US, EU, Asia or SA?
Worldwide?
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: Thurius on January 28, 2013, 07:39 pm
You guys know that you can inject cacti with L-Phenylalanine and they'll magically make more Mescaline, right? I read it somewhere, but you should double-check the facts before you kill a perfectly healthy cacti.
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: RaFaeL5 on January 28, 2013, 09:15 pm
You guys know that you can inject cacti with L-Phenylalanine and they'll magically make more Mescaline, right? I read it somewhere, but you should double-check the facts before you kill a perfectly healthy cacti.
People around here pis on their cactus one a month (preferably @ full moon) and say it helps them to grow...
but maybe it's a good idea to double-check this also  ;)
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: Oompaloompa on January 28, 2013, 09:28 pm
You guys know that you can inject cacti with L-Phenylalanine and they'll magically make more Mescaline, right? I read it somewhere, but you should double-check the facts before you kill a perfectly healthy cacti.
You are confused with an old myth that injecting dopamine into cacti roots stimulated mescaline production. There was no truth in that myth and neither is there in your Phenylalanine suggestion.

While pricking or scarifying cacti can stimulate alkaloid production (and create ugly looking cacti) as a defense mechanism, injecting anything into cacti won't work as they don't have veins or any way to uptake the injected substance (they have Xylem & Phloem but they don't work like that) or to do anything with it.
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on January 29, 2013, 12:25 am
Heh Bob hasn't been back in a while.  What happened?

I think this is the third person since November who has said they would be offering some here soon and so far I haven't yet seen anyone actually come through.

I am hoping to find an apprentice type through some friends that live around me that would be interested in potentially starting this up as a business.  I think I may be able to find someone in the next week or so.  If not, then I will give up.  My plan was to teach them how to do everything from ordering source materials to extracting and shipping, and then handle the online identity business  part for them.

$50 per gram is not going to happen though.  I think it would be a minimum of $100 per gram for single orders of mesc HCL.  Probably a little more to start to be honest to help recoup some of the initial glassware expenses to allow for a large scale operation.

I will let you know if it works out within two weeks.
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: incogmagnito on January 29, 2013, 02:45 am
Heh Bob hasn't been back in a while.  What happened?

I think this is the third person since November who has said they would be offering some here soon and so far I haven't yet seen anyone actually come through.

I am hoping to find an apprentice type through some friends that live around me that would be interested in potentially starting this up as a business.  I think I may be able to find someone in the next week or so.  If not, then I will give up.  My plan was to teach them how to do everything from ordering source materials to extracting and shipping, and then handle the online identity business  part for them.

$50 per gram is not going to happen though.  I think it would be a minimum of $100 per gram for single orders of mesc HCL.  Probably a little more to start to be honest to help recoup some of the initial glassware expenses to allow for a large scale operation.

I will let you know if it works out within two weeks.

yes, please! someone needs to get into this niche as supply is totally unreliable.
drop me a PM if and when you get this sorted ... and hope that it is when rather than if.
best of luck
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: wwwrothy on January 31, 2013, 03:58 pm
I'm currently a weed seller, but I just finished a personal extraction of mescaline acetate and I could do it large scale.

I't'd have to be 50 dollars a gram, which is 2-5 doses.

Any interest?

WOW, if your shit is the goods, that will be quite the freaking deal. Hit me up on PM Brother!

Roth
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on February 01, 2013, 04:59 pm
Well, I tripped pretty hard a couple nights ago and during the trip realized that I simply don't need the money from this so it doesn't make any sense to go through all the effort.of being involved in starting someone else up on the road for a little bit of extra money.

Sorry to get anyone's hopes up.  Still willing to help out on these boards if anyone else wants to try extracting.  I have been contacted by a couple of others via PM recently thinking of starting so hopefully one of them comes through.
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: incogmagnito on February 01, 2013, 09:20 pm
Well, I tripped pretty hard a couple nights ago and during the trip realized that I simply don't need the money from this so it doesn't make any sense to go through all the effort.of being involved in starting someone else up on the road for a little bit of extra money.

Sorry to get anyone's hopes up.  Still willing to help out on these boards if anyone else wants to try extracting.  I have been contacted by a couple of others via PM recently thinking of starting so hopefully one of them comes through.

hoobydoobydoo, what can we do to help you getting more of mescaline TA onto SR?
Title: Re: Interest in Mescaline?
Post by: TryptaManiac on February 02, 2013, 09:15 am
I am VERY interested, would probably buy a couple grams at that price.  Mescaline was next on my drugs to do list, 4-FA is still a maybe.