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Support => Feature requests => Topic started by: Shroomeister on August 23, 2012, 09:57 pm
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Some people consider it a problem. Some don't.
We have all seen the threads "I am .000001BTC short for my order, can someone loan/donate it to me so I can make my order?
Are you fine with this type of thread popping up on the forums?
Would you like to see these type of threads all contained to one place?
Tried to make that as factual as possible. Now....
My Opinion:
I am tired of it. I would love for this thread to become a petition to SR admins to create this sub forum and make all "BTC Beggars" post there.
My logic is two fold:
1) When I want to look around the forums, I do not want my browsing clogged up with thread that not only does not contribute to the SR experience, but actually is asking for something from "me".
2)If all these type of threads are contained in one place, then anyone who has a little extra change, can go there. Pick their favorite beggar and donate.
If SR Admins actually create this forum then not only will all the begging be contained, but beggars may not get the attention that they once got and hence stop begging. Win. Win.
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It's all fine IMO, since today I'm one of those 'btc-beggars' too :P Had to order quickly but Intersango takes too long to transfer money :)
If you see a topic with a btc beg title, just don't click on it.. Kinda simple really
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It's all fine IMO, since today I'm one of those 'btc-beggars' too :P Had to order quickly but Intersango takes too long to transfer money :)
If you see a topic with a btc beg title, just don't click on it.. Kinda simple really
Yeah this is what I was saying in another thread. If the "beggar" is a long term member of the community then I see no problem with it in fact that's the reason I click on the threads sometimes, to try help someone out. Someone helped me out a while ago so I think it's only fair.
The problem is the one post beggars who when you lend to them you have little certainty that they will send it back.
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If I posted
"PLEASE HELP -PGP + WINDOWS = DON'T WORK" thread in "Products Offered", it would get moved wouldn't it?
That's all I am implying.
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4 active begging threads right now on one page. The first page. 8)
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It's annoying give them their own board, I hate seeing all the begging in other boards its unprofessional and quite annoying.
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Send the beggars to the beggar thread and send all the mt.gix people there too then just delete the entire thread every couple hours.
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I don't mind the beggars, if you really want to do sth about the beggars try to make the bitcoin more stable.
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It's all fine IMO, since today I'm one of those 'btc-beggars' too :P Had to order quickly but Intersango takes too long to transfer money :)
If you see a topic with a btc beg title, just don't click on it.. Kinda simple really
;)
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The point of this thread (and almost more so poll) is not to decide if begging should exsist or not, but to put "Give them their own section" to a vote.
Not as many people care about this as much as i do apparently. Which is fine. Not a huge amount of votes....or no one sees it down there in THIS section of the forum.
either way, I stand by my thought.
:)
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BTC beggar forum for the win!!
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I don't have an issue with begging per se, My issue is that often the title is something generic like, "Please help" so I go there to see if it's something I can answer and find it's a begging thread. If they were all in one place, or people put it clearly in the title that they are asking for money and nothing else it would be a lot easier to ignore.
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Yes they really do need their own forum.
The way I see it is beggars HAVE THEIR PLACE, not only in real life but also on internet drug forums as well.
Give them a place to gather.
For those feeling generous, go among the flock in their own sanctum and dole your benevolence onto them...
Give karma if you agree! :D
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Yes they really do need their own forum.
The way I see it is beggars HAVE THEIR PLACE, not only in real life but also on internet drug forums as well.
Give them a place to gather.
For those feeling generous, go among the flock in their own sanctum and dole your benevolence onto them...
Give karma if you agree! :D
This is cute :D
Karma whoring in a thread about beggars.
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No karma whoring here xD Go do that in the Karma thread :P
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I think you are forgetting that this is a FREE board. No subscription fees. Due the nature of a free board one must assume that a majority of the content is not going to be of personal interest to each and every user.
Now when I opened up "Off topic" going past the block of stickied threads, I count fourteen threads on the first page. 2 of these fourteen threads were coin request threads. One was mine which i a request for a LOAN not a GIFT (big difference) the other was someone with 4 posts and -2 karma asking for a GIFT not a LOAN. :D
So with those 2 threads that leaves 12 other threads. Now let's see here. I am going through the threads and I have found that I really only want to see 2-3 of these threads because the others aren't interesting/annoy me. But, WHAT'S THIS!?! EGAD!! I HAVE TO SCROLL PAST THE CONTENT I DON'T WISH TO SEE WHICH HAS BEEN PROVIDED FOR ME FREE OF CHARGE!?!
Oh hell no. I think I will start my own thread and make a poll asking if other people are sick of seeing stuff they don't like in a non-subscriber board, and then maybe I shall white knight all over the threads I don't like, linking them to my thread where I tell them that I dont like there thread.
The point is, people asking for loans will only be a problem if it grows out of hand and people start feeling cheated by the acts. When the ratio of FREE content is in favor of loan requests to other threads that is when we will have a problem, until then scroll past it just as I did for thread asking about meth usage and its effect on sleep.
As for the beggars, people can reveiw karma and rep. , then make their respective decisions or let the thread filter down and into the void of dead threads.
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TL;DR
...but I got the gist. the gist is you are upset because I cock blocked your little begging routine, im sorry LOAN thread with this thread.
You have by all means proved my point. How many beg threads on the first page? HOW MANY? 14?
sure "Off Topic" is for "anything", but when you say that 14 threads on the first page are beg/loan threads I would consider that a significant amount, if not a majority even.
If I posted 14 "This weed is shit!" threads in the Security section, you think they would stay there?
case and point.
The PROBLEM is that I have seen a lot of drugs and I have seen a lot of beggars in my day. The usual term for the two combined is junkie. You don't want me to "White Knight around" that you are a junkie do ya?
This is not a homeless shelter, AA Meeting or the fucking Goodwill.
If you don't have funds, don't buy.
What because they are "electronic little crytpo thingies" instead of greenbacks, you don't feel as fucking ASHAMED as you should for trying to beg off of people.
People that have taken the time and effort to make sure that they have enough funds for what they want to do. People that have accounted for the rise or fall of the BTC. People that have accounted for trading fees.
Fuck man, you see what you made me do?
OK. OK. How about this? You explain in detail WHY you are short .00001BTC
Why didn't you have enough to cover your purchase?
And if your reason is NOT because of laziness, lack of foresight or just plain ol' stupidity I will give you 1BTC.
Yup a whole one!
....and then maybe we can be friends.
Short of that, watch this white knight don't joust you down son.
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Don't call me a junkie (clean for 3 years) and don't condemn a post that you swept under the TL;DR rug. If you can't bother to read something in it's entirty then you have no right to post on it. And no, there is no begging routine, which is a point mentioned in my first post.
Also I am not too sure where you you get this 14 threads are loan request nonsense, if you had read rather than skimmed you would have caught the bit about there being 2 of the 14 threads as loan requests.
I don't understand your logic, read your posts out loud before posting. :D
Basically I just don't want you in my thread trying to further your little movement by lumping me with beggars, junkies and scammers and attempting to throw me under the bus.
My loan thread is a terrible example for your little crusade.
here is the TL;DR since you have trouble with comprehension. - This is a free board, get used to seeing things that you don't find of interest, I don't want to be your friend, I am not a leech nor junkie, and go eat a bag of dicks.
I am done here.
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Don't call me a junkie (clean for 3 years) and don't condemn a post that you swept under the TL;DR rug. If you can't bother to read something in it's entirty then you have no right to post on it. And no, there is no begging routine, which is a point mentioned in my first post.
Also I am not too sure where you you get this 14 threads are loan request nonsense, if you had read rather than skimmed you would have caught the bit about there being 2 of the 14 threads as loan requests.
I don't understand your logic, read your posts out loud before posting. :D
Basically I just don't want you in my thread trying to further your little movement by lumping me with beggars, junkies and scammers and attempting to throw me under the bus.
My loan thread is a terrible example for your little crusade.
here is the TL;DR since you have trouble with comprehension. - This is a free board, get used to seeing things that you don't find of interest, I don't want to be your friend, I am not a leech nor junkie, and go eat a bag of dicks.
I am done here.
No one else opinion on this discussion between you and I matters. To me you prove my point the more you talk.
you like to split hairs Beg vs. Loan. I do not. So your thread count stands at 14 in my eyes.
If I "loaned" anyone on a random forum anything, I would just have to be comfortable with not expecting it back.
My "lil movement" needs all the help it can get though bro, you see that I don't quite have 100 votes yet?
So I think it goes without saying - this being a "free board" and all that I link my thread to any beggar post I want. sorry. Your rules.
This really didn't start out as a personal attack until you made it one. If there was a "Skid Row" section of the forum for you to post your "loan" request, you would have never heard a peep from me. Or maybe you would have....being a "free board" and all.
My 1BTC DONATION (not a loan - don't pay me back) offer still stands. Now is your chance to make some history right now brah. Imagine the bragging rights of being able to say that you got ME to give YOU 1BTC while posting in my "Beggars" thread. That would make me look totally like a clown. No?
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Don't call me a junkie (clean for 3 years) and don't condemn a post that you swept under the TL;DR rug. If you can't bother to read something in it's entirty then you have no right to post on it. And no, there is no begging routine, which is a point mentioned in my first post.
Also I am not too sure where you you get this 14 threads are loan request nonsense, if you had read rather than skimmed you would have caught the bit about there being 2 of the 14 threads as loan requests.
I don't understand your logic, read your posts out loud before posting. :D
Basically I just don't want you in my thread trying to further your little movement by lumping me with beggars, junkies and scammers and attempting to throw me under the bus.
My loan thread is a terrible example for your little crusade.
here is the TL;DR since you have trouble with comprehension. - This is a free board, get used to seeing things that you don't find of interest, I don't want to be your friend, I am not a leech nor junkie, and go eat a bag of dicks.
I am done here.
I lol'd a little bit, especially @ the 'eat a bag of dicks' comment.
Yes it's a free board and you have the right to post what you want.
But - there needs to be a certain level of professionalism here. If you want this site to be anything more then just a 'druggy' site, then stop acting like such a cunt. Maybe if more members did this, we wouldn't have so much negative press. Act professional, and if you require bitcoins for a purchase why not message the vendor and ask for a custom listing for a little bit less? A LOT of vendors WILL DO THIS. Asking the community for money in my eyes is totally unacceptable, they should not be paying for your drugs. Talk to the vendor, they're people too.
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Anyone reading willing to toss a guy .5BTC so he can buy a sample of a product that he really wants to try but he cant load cash into his account until tomorrow because bankers are lazy douches and Bank - Bitinstant - Email is how I load up my account and I cant wait until tomorrow because that's when the samples ship out and I will happily pay back a full BTC tomorrow sometime?
Figured I'd post it here because, whilst not bothersome to me, begging threads annoy some people and I figure I'm annoying enough as is.
Also, My sig line offer still stands. :D
And I'd love you forever. (In a non homo, more so brotherly kind of way.)
Done. Sent .5btc Let me know if you need more due to fluctuation, I will be on. I been there before brutha, and I had
kind individuals help me out !
I have no issues with "beggars", but I do think their own spot would be ok. I would hit it up on occasion just to lend a hand.
But that's me.............cant speak for the rest of yous---
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I have no issues with "beggars", but I do think their own spot would be ok. I would hit it up on occasion just to lend a hand.
But that's me.............cant speak for the rest of yous---
My personal feelings on the beggar thing are just that, my personal feelings. Im not here "rebel roussing" try to pitchfork every beggar (believe it or not)
This thread only serves to attempt to get all the Beggar/Loan threads into one place. no matter what the reason for wanting them there is.
So with that said. thank you for your feedback. I hope you voted!
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I lol'd a little bit, especially @ the 'eat a bag of dicks' comment.
Yeah - I did not even want to justify that comment. I think I was more offended when he called me a "white knight" ;D
on the real though.....shhhh!... lets not stir him... I think he may have passed out.
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I lol'd a little bit, especially @ the 'eat a bag of dicks' comment.
Yeah - I did not even want to justify that comment. I think I was more offended when he called me a "white knight" ;D
on the real though.....shhhh!... lets not stir him... I think he may have passed out.
Lol I think he may have been watching too much of 'The Boondocks' recently ;) (tv series not the movies)
But that kind of immature unprofessional-ism is what I'm talking about, it's one thing to joke around like that in a chat shit thread, but not in a serious discussion.
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Some of these bums need to get a job lol.I think that a mod should look through the posts that someone made and its mostly if someone is begging and feeding off of others spare change often for example people who are begging for a bitcoin every day or multiple times a day.And I haven't even been here more than a couple months and I have people that would and have helped me out when I come up a little short and if you're not cool enough with at least one person that will loan you .25 BTC than that's your own fault for not being cool with other people and helping people out.I have been a bitcoin short personally and it may sound arrogant but I didn't want to be a leach and I didn't want to hurt my own pride so I asked the vendor to make a custom listing.And loaning is just as bad haha seriously have some self control dude chances are the listing will still be there by the time you have enough money to pay back the BTC you got on a loan anyway.Either way beggars and leaches and people that need loans all need to either get a job,get a better paying job,or have some self control.Its not our fault that they don't have money to get high so why is it our responsibility to give them money?
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This thread was created because the mods don't have time for this, saw Guru now has the title 'spam buster' so I'm assuming the admins liked this idea :)
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I lol'd a little bit, especially @ the 'eat a bag of dicks' comment.
Yeah - I did not even want to justify that comment. I think I was more offended when he called me a "white knight" ;D
on the real though.....shhhh!... lets not stir him... I think he may have passed out.
On the real though, quit white knightin about and attempt to defame my character. I just don't like being lumped in with actual beggars. Asking for a loan is very different than asking for a donation.
For the record I am in agreement with you for the beg thread, it will turn into a cess pool of people with no good intentions though.
When I came back at you on the offensive it was moreso at my dislike at being bagged up with a few other assholes around here who have no good intention of paying anyone back. They clarified this by asking for a donation rather than the loan I requested. It is too bad, I have never had a problem paying people back around here, and I have never had a problem getting paid back for LOANS I have given.
I just don't like being lumped, so when you would like to post links to this thread in request threads, just please, take the time to find a few assholes who are actually asking for a handout rather than a few day loan for some pocket change.
:D
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Well I'm sure no personal attacks were made without reason. It's hard to determine who's asking for a LOAN and others who want free coin. It's an anonymous board. For all we know it could be a highly respected member. No offense against you or anyone else, but there's almost no way to prove someone is actually paying the money back other than word of mouth. There's been a lot of scams recently so everyone is kinda sketched out. If you had asked maybe a year ago or so, things would be different :).
My only problem with what you were saying was just HOW it was said, as I've stated before we should all hold a certain level of professionalism here :)
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Well I'm sure no personal attacks were made without reason. It's hard to determine who's asking for a LOAN and others who want free coin. It's an anonymous board. For all we know it could be a highly respected member. No offense against you or anyone else, but there's almost no way to prove someone is actually paying the money back other than word of mouth. There's been a lot of scams recently so everyone is kinda sketched out. If you had asked maybe a year ago or so, things would be different :).
My only problem with what you were saying was just HOW it was said, as I've stated before we should all hold a certain level of professionalism here :)
Reckon so, I'm still standing by the dicks comment though. I don't enjoy having my character sullied. :/
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I lol'd a little bit, especially @ the 'eat a bag of dicks' comment.
Yeah - I did not even want to justify that comment. I think I was more offended when he called me a "white knight" ;D
on the real though.....shhhh!... lets not stir him... I think he may have passed out.
On the real though, quit white knightin about and attempt to defame my character. I just don't like being lumped in with actual beggars. Asking for a loan is very different than asking for a donation.
For the record I am in agreement with you for the beg thread, it will turn into a cess pool of people with no good intentions though.
When I came back at you on the offensive it was moreso at my dislike at being bagged up with a few other assholes around here who have no good intention of paying anyone back. They clarified this by asking for a donation rather than the loan I requested. It is too bad, I have never had a problem paying people back around here, and I have never had a problem getting paid back for LOANS I have given.
I just don't like being lumped, so when you would like to post links to this thread in request threads, just please, take the time to find a few assholes who are actually asking for a handout rather than a few day loan for some pocket change.
:D
If you recall. As I do. I simply posted this thread in your request for a "loan" I didn't call you a name or any of that silly stuff. You got offended making it "clear" to me that there is a difference (in your mind) between a loan and a donation.
As I said, I personally do not make the distinction between the 2.
With that said. You have made me want to change my proposal for this proposed section of the forum to include 2 actual subsections:
1) Begs/Donations....whatever everyone feels comfortable calling them
and
2)LOANS - a place where a SR user can place an "ad" state his case and terms (repayment time frame, interest if any, etc) and then someone can take that user up on that offer. This is actually really beneficial for a few reasons. You being the honest borrower that you are, could have a bit of a "track record" on that forum to point others too next time you wanted to borrow.
E.G. - look at my other 3 borrow threads. I paid them back on time blah blah"
and also the "loaners" (sp, lol) could also have some type of "public terms" on the forum. So if someone decided to screw the person who loaned, it could be "reported" to the thread.
Makes sense to me
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Well I'm sure no personal attacks were made without reason. It's hard to determine who's asking for a LOAN and others who want free coin. It's an anonymous board. For all we know it could be a highly respected member. No offense against you or anyone else, but there's almost no way to prove someone is actually paying the money back other than word of mouth. There's been a lot of scams recently so everyone is kinda sketched out. If you had asked maybe a year ago or so, things would be different :) .
My only problem with what you were saying was just HOW it was said, as I've stated before we should all hold a certain level of professionalism here :)
Reckon so, I'm still standing by the dicks comment though. I don't enjoy having my character sullied. :/
LOL. I have been called worse, by better. That is for sure.
Your own conscience sullied you.
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It's a forum, get over it. I have plenty neg karma from people who don't like me, but I don't give a shit lol. It's peoples opinions, aka what a forum's foundation is. Might as well get used to it :P
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I have no issues with "beggars", but I do think their own spot would be ok. I would hit it up on occasion just to lend a hand.
But that's me.............cant speak for the rest of yous---
My personal feelings on the beggar thing are just that, my personal feelings. Im not here "rebel roussing" try to pitchfork every beggar (believe it or not)
This thread only serves to attempt to get all the Beggar/Loan threads into one place. no matter what the reason for wanting them there is.
So with that said. thank you for your feedback. I hope you voted!
ohh no no no no, I didn't take it like that at all. All is well my friend. I do remember a time when I was like "damn, bet all
these beggars are scammers! or "why don't they just plan ahead?" THEN-one day I was like "SHIT" and had to do the same
thing. LOL. Anyways-all is good. And when I donate its never a ton, and I do look at the history of the folks as well. If they
have a good rep then no prob.
and ya mon, I forgot to vote. I am voting for them "me at times" to have their "our" own spot. I hate seeing all the random
posts as well for this shizzzz. Was a good idea to start thread !
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No Doubt.
Now .....we just need SR admins to come have a looky :\
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I sha'll aquire Lim's assistance on this matter :)
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I sha'll aquire Lim's assistance on this matter :)
He's on tha vaca for a bit.
Plus he'd be the first to tell us that he can't make new forum sections, im sure.
I am pretty sure I have heard his disgruntlement over beggars though.....maybe he can get some admin attention.
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I am pretty sure I have heard his disgruntlement over beggars though.....maybe he can get some admin attention.
That's why I was going to get him :)
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I had some extra btc and was offering to loans/gifts until I'm out (I was in their place a couple weeks ago... my current sig). I'd support the idea of another forum section for this. They kind of pop up everywhere.
I'm kind of specific in my post though that I only really feel for people who fall victim to bitcoin fluctuations or bitcoin transfer fees. I have no empathy for people who want more than 0.05ish just because they're too lazy to get some.
I was using bitinstant and they require at least $20 to transfer and a flat $4-5 fee every time. That sucks for a 20 cent mistake.
What about some sort of programmed-in give-a-penny, take-a-penny thing?
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I usually load extra 30% of BTC required to buy.
So no begging for me :)
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I'm with Shroomeister - beggars should have their very own thread.
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Thats for all the replies to this!
Just a friendly reminder to please VOTE at the beginning of this thread.
Once there is a 100 votes (total) then we shall see.
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I came up short the other day (something like 0.07btc) and I politely asked the vendor if he wouldn't mind making a custom order for me whenever he had the time to do so, he responded back quickly and had my custom order up within 2 minutes.
Most of the "begging" threads I see are asking for something like 0.25btc or very small amounts...so like someone said before, try hitting up the vendor and seeing if they could do a custom order. If that doesn't work and the amount is still low, just start mining some! I usually mine a little every week and it pays for the shipping and helps me keep some extra in my SR account.
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I kinda like the idea of an anonymous, 'hidden' message board where people actually trust each other enough to send them money :)
Sure, sometimes the person doesn't pay back, but you can eliminate that chance by giving the profile a good 'ol look and decide whether you trust this person or not.
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Yeah that does suck when that happens I just sent $135 to my account to get an oz from drwhite and then I was like .04 BTC short or something so I had to go to a different vendor and buy something else.It sucked but oh well I can get it the next time around.If I am short I there are always plenty of other listings to go to.
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Well, I haven't been on the forums in about 3 weeks, and I come back to a negative 20 karma. Seeing as I try and keep a lower profile for the most part and this the only controversial thread I have engaged in, I am going to assume it came from all the gormless lurkers moping about in this sorry little thread.
Those who matter know who I am and know that this is not a deserved move.
Essentially anyone else can get in line and sick my dick. (There, that might give ya lil' fuckers a decent reason to send your bitchmade attitude my way.)
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Some people consider it a problem. Some don't.
We have all seen the threads "I am .000001BTC short for my order, can someone loan/donate it to me so I can make my order?
Are you fine with this type of thread popping up on the forums?
Would you like to see these type of threads all contained to one place?
Tried to make that as factual as possible. Now....
My Opinion:
I am tired of it. I would love for this thread to become a petition to SR admins to create this sub forum and make all "BTC Beggars" post there.
My logic is two fold:
1) When I want to look around the forums, I do not want my browsing clogged up with thread that not only does not contribute to the SR experience, but actually is asking for something from "me".
2)If all these type of threads are contained in one place, then anyone who has a little extra change, can go there. Pick their favorite beggar and donate.
If SR Admins actually create this forum then not only will all the begging be contained, but beggars may not get the attention that they once got and hence stop begging. Win. Win.
I dont like bitcoin beggars at all and I think they shouldnt be asking in the first place. But of course some people will still ask for coin so lets just put all their posts into 1 thread. I am never giving any of them money and I dont want to read any requests being made for my money.
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Well, I haven't been on the forums in about 3 weeks, and I come back to a negative 20 karma. Seeing as I try and keep a lower profile for the most part and this the only controversial thread I have engaged in, I am going to assume it came from all the gormless lurkers moping about in this sorry little thread.
Those who matter know who I am and know that this is not a deserved move.
Essentially anyone else can get in line and sick my dick. (There, that might give ya lil' fuckers a decent reason to send your bitchmade attitude my way.)
Well while im glad to see my thread back from the dead.
I do not recall your stance in this thread, but if it makes you feel any better I got an assload of negs from this thread too.