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Market => Product requests => Topic started by: joeyjojo on August 01, 2012, 12:48 am
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hey all,
i am looking for concentrated acid in crystal/powder form.
haven't seen any myself but a close friend tells me that this is the way Lucy is transported in large quantities.
any help would be appreciated
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yeah, this won't happen anytime soon. the logistics are talked about in various other threads.
dominatrix claims she might be selling some, we will see.
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If you had a time machine
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At $36000 - 1g .... No time machine necessary
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hey all,
i am looking for concentrated acid in crystal/powder form.
haven't seen any myself but a close friend tells me that this is the way Lucy is transported in large quantities.
any help would be appreciated
Are you looking to lay your own tabs and sell? SR is probably not the best place to get crystal...you're gonna need to find an experienced and well connected chemist.
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At $36000 - 1g .... No time machine necessary
Got a link then? :)
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i am looking to make really potent liquid as this is what the kids out my way go for...
i could prolli handle the synthesis as well but haven't really looked into it.
maybe that is the best option rather than lay that much $ down on crystal that doesn't seem readily available :-\
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yeah, let us know when you start synthing white crystal.
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somebody on the forum was nice enough to hook us up ;)
sorted
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somebody on the forum was nice enough to hook us up ;)
sorted
let us know if it ever arrives.
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Fer real.
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WTF is going on here. Joeyjojo, somehow you don't strike me as a person who would be able to whip up a batch of white fluff.
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I hope you get ripped off, numbnuts.
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i am looking to make really potent liquid as this is what the kids out my way go for...
i could prolli handle the synthesis as well but haven't really looked into it.
maybe that is the best option rather than lay that much $ down on crystal that doesn't seem readily available :-\
You haven't looked into the synthesis but could 'prolli' handle it?
Life isn't Breaking Bad, meth being the simplest phenethylamine is ridiculously easy to make, yet here we sit with you casually conversing about the synthesis of a semisynthetic ergoline derivative (but a poly ergopeptine ergotamine analog of course) which is highly polyaromatic with a particularly fragile 'semi' nucleophilic ketone and you don't even seem to know what solvent you intend for your final product to be suspended in?
*facepalm*
EDIT: Feel kinda stupid not asking how you also intend on manufacturing an enantioselective total synthesis of lysergic acid from hydrolysis of the lysergamides you've extracted from your ergotamine containing plant material?
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Dude, In San Francisco CA 100 drops of nice lsd cost 350,00 US so cheap, i see the price for a drop of crystal really expensive...
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You haven't looked into the synthesis but could 'prolli' handle it?
Life isn't Breaking Bad, meth being the simplest phenethylamine is ridiculously easy to make, yet here we sit with you casually conversing about the synthesis of a semisynthetic ergoline derivative (but a poly ergopeptine ergotamine analog of course) which is highly polyaromatic with a particularly fragile 'semi' nucleophilic ketone and you don't even seem to know what solvent you intend for your final product to be suspended in?
*facepalm*
I have to respectfully disagree. Although or because you seem to have some knowledge in this field of chemistry, you should know that if someone were to study it at a university and get up to a masters degree or even a phd, one should be able 'to look into it' and synthesize it. After all this is what a decent academic education should teach, picking up research by others and build your own stuff on top of it.
I have to agree with your skepticism though, the probability of this being the case is not very high. I guess meth, some amphetamines and more of the PEA-group can be manufactured by people with very little chemistry knowledge, eg. Jesse Pinkman to use your example :)
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You haven't looked into the synthesis but could 'prolli' handle it?
Life isn't Breaking Bad, meth being the simplest phenethylamine is ridiculously easy to make, yet here we sit with you casually conversing about the synthesis of a semisynthetic ergoline derivative (but a poly ergopeptine ergotamine analog of course) which is highly polyaromatic with a particularly fragile 'semi' nucleophilic ketone and you don't even seem to know what solvent you intend for your final product to be suspended in?
*facepalm*
I have to respectfully disagree. Although or because you seem to have some knowledge in this field of chemistry, you should know that if someone were to study it at a university and get up to a masters degree or even a phd, one should be able 'to look into it' and synthesize it. After all this is what a decent academic education should teach, picking up research by others and build your own stuff on top of it.
I have to agree with your skepticism though, the probability of this being the case is not very high. I guess meth, some amphetamines and more of the PEA-group can be manufactured by people with very little chemistry knowledge, eg. Jesse Pinkman to use your example :)
Well he did say he wanted to sell it to his friends on the street and that he could 'prolli' do it himself but hasn't looked into it. So my bets are he isn't in graduate school studying the structure of LSD, but a rather confused person.
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Fer real.
supposed to be getting it early next week so will update when it does arrive.
WTF is going on here. Joeyjojo, somehow you don't strike me as a person who would be able to whip up a batch of white fluff.
wow you must be more insightful than most to be able to tell that from a handful of posts.
I hope you get ripped off, numbnuts.
thanks a lot buddy, really constructive.
i hope one day you truly grasp the concept of a community and maybe participate in a way that could be beneficial instead of just acting juvenile and spreading ill will.
perhaps this type of cuntyness would be better appreciated at topix? :o
i am looking to make really potent liquid as this is what the kids out my way go for...
i could prolli handle the synthesis as well but haven't really looked into it.
maybe that is the best option rather than lay that much $ down on crystal that doesn't seem readily available :-\
You haven't looked into the synthesis but could 'prolli' handle it?
Life isn't Breaking Bad, meth being the simplest phenethylamine is ridiculously easy to make, yet here we sit with you casually conversing about the synthesis of a semisynthetic ergoline derivative (but a poly ergopeptine ergotamine analog of course) which is highly polyaromatic with a particularly fragile 'semi' nucleophilic ketone and you don't even seem to know what solvent you intend for your final product to be suspended in?
*facepalm*
EDIT: Feel kinda stupid not asking how you also intend on manufacturing an enantioselective total synthesis of lysergic acid from hydrolysis of the lysergamides you've extracted from your ergotamine containing plant material?
i don't remember ever mentioning anything about a solvent?
wow you can use a lot of big long words to describe what are essentially simple scientific concepts, you must really know what you're talking about.
this is exactly the type of intellectual snobbery and pretentiousness that makes me find it difficult to get along with a lot of supposedly highly educated evolved people.
this is not the way you people who have supreme amounts of knowledge should be behaving.
there was actually a time where it wasn't seen as a complete *facepalm* to practice hard sciences in one's own home.
just because the establishment has relegated it to their own sponsored labs doesn't mean that we in the real world should live within the same constraints.
the fact of the matter is that there is very little in that procedure that couldn't be resolved by most people with half a brain, if given the correct precursors, equipment and guidance.
it is simply too good a money spinner to have people understand that they could produce their own pharms in their own homes.
breaking bad? you seriously still watch that crap they feed you through that tube? get faaaaarked
You haven't looked into the synthesis but could 'prolli' handle it?
Life isn't Breaking Bad, meth being the simplest phenethylamine is ridiculously easy to make, yet here we sit with you casually conversing about the synthesis of a semisynthetic ergoline derivative (but a poly ergopeptine ergotamine analog of course) which is highly polyaromatic with a particularly fragile 'semi' nucleophilic ketone and you don't even seem to know what solvent you intend for your final product to be suspended in?
*facepalm*
I have to respectfully disagree. Although or because you seem to have some knowledge in this field of chemistry, you should know that if someone were to study it at a university and get up to a masters degree or even a phd, one should be able 'to look into it' and synthesize it. After all this is what a decent academic education should teach, picking up research by others and build your own stuff on top of it.
I have to agree with your skepticism though, the probability of this being the case is not very high. I guess meth, some amphetamines and more of the PEA-group can be manufactured by people with very little chemistry knowledge, eg. Jesse Pinkman to use your example :)
thankyou, you seem pretty reasonable dude.
You haven't looked into the synthesis but could 'prolli' handle it?
Life isn't Breaking Bad, meth being the simplest phenethylamine is ridiculously easy to make, yet here we sit with you casually conversing about the synthesis of a semisynthetic ergoline derivative (but a poly ergopeptine ergotamine analog of course) which is highly polyaromatic with a particularly fragile 'semi' nucleophilic ketone and you don't even seem to know what solvent you intend for your final product to be suspended in?
*facepalm*
I have to respectfully disagree. Although or because you seem to have some knowledge in this field of chemistry, you should know that if someone were to study it at a university and get up to a masters degree or even a phd, one should be able 'to look into it' and synthesize it. After all this is what a decent academic education should teach, picking up research by others and build your own stuff on top of it.
I have to agree with your skepticism though, the probability of this being the case is not very high. I guess meth, some amphetamines and more of the PEA-group can be manufactured by people with very little chemistry knowledge, eg. Jesse Pinkman to use your example :)
Well he did say he wanted to sell it to his friends on the street and that he could 'prolli' do it himself but hasn't looked into it. So my bets are he isn't in graduate school studying the structure of LSD, but a rather confused person.
thanks to you for also not acting like a dog ;D
esp considering the nature of this forum i tend to expect and hope for a bit more respectful banter rather than sarcastic remarks and trolling, perhaps i expect too much.
i thought serious chemistry discussion would take place at a more appropriate forum.
i made a post about trying to source crystal and was received with mostly scoffs..
i then responded to this with an off hand comment about possibly looking into lsd synthesis, then come back weeks later to find a bunch of snotty comments and nothing really constructive at all.
this place seems to have become a place where only the crudest and most aggressive seem to thrive.
what happened SR you used to be cool :'(
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Wait, did you find someone selling them?
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LSD is by no means easy to manufacture. You need a skilled chemist with a passion and experience for specific synthesis-methods, a professional big lab AND precursors, that you probably have to import from abroad.
If you want to know anything about LSD manifacture and history go read this thread: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1287892
It's only viewable with a shroomery-login and at least 10 posts thought. The title is "LSD-Crystal to blotter".
Crystal is probably much to much for you, we're talking about hundreds of thousands of trips here.
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And don't forget that crystal isn't simply "much LSD". LSD works in so little doses, that people in the room get instantly (very!) high once you open the vial. (Note: i haven't had crystal myself, i'm just not too lazy to do proper research on drugs that interest me)
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And to make that clear: some of my friends are skilled chemists with PhDs. If you let them skim the synthesis-instructions they will tell you that
a) it's by no means a trivial task, meaning shit could explode, shit is poisoneous and so on
b) it's not straightforward, even if you do know everything about the process you still need "experience" for it to work. little tricks and so on.
c) you can do nothing without the precursors, which are highly controlled. you probably need to go to underground-labs in china to get the stuff. (ergonamin tartrate that is).
LSD is actually one of the hardest things to synthesize. Meth is much easier.
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Hey guys,
I am going to synth 50kg of LSD crystal in my kitchen, I am not naive at all, and I beleive I prolli have the intellectual capacity to conduct such a task. Thankfully, I saw sum1 selling ergotamine tartrate in the precursor section. So I went on google and typed in 'lsd synthesis' it said chuck all my ergot in the microwave for 30 seconds, followed by covering it in concentrated sulphuric acid which can then be consumed orally or layed on tabs, or dropped into your eyes! I heard, the more I boil the h2S04 the more concentrated it will get, so when it reaches my brain the better trip I get!!! Dw guys, I will put plenty of sulphuric acid on my tabs so you guys get the best trip as your brain slowly melts away (literally)!!! :))
Juz because certain people studeye organic synthesis for many years and conducted many lab tests, synths, pracs etc duz not mean i can't do it if i dun try. After all its simply follow the method 1. 2. 3. right?!??!
I really dun get how there is such a short demand of lsd, its so easy, if everyone puts dere mind to it..it can be made. Plz inbox me if you would like to get some samples of freshly microwaved lsd, straight from ya main man.
P.S: i promise to vac seal all products, happy tripping guys. Plz leave a review on the lsd review threads. I'm sure it'll be the best, and last thing you consume.
On a final note, eye want to say I am not da one millionth person tryna claim i'm going to cook sum LSD. I can clearly appreciate and fully understand the attention 2 detail required wen undertaking organic synthesis.
Similarly, I plan 2 try my hands at engineering next year. If some engineers can build bridges, WHY CAN'T I. I wonder if google has some teks for bridge building, looking for a co-partner?
fannks guys :) :) :)
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Joking aside, somebody made an interesting post in this thread:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=22454.0
Also something big is in the works regarding L synthesis. I'll give a liittle hint people on the clearweb and Family want you to think it is a lot harder than it really is. Start with vogels organic chemistry or lab survial manual. Read about hydrolysis and doing rxns under inert atmospher. L is litterally a 2 step process and what we need are more small labs more decentralization. Also if you go into the synth with just the intention of making Lysergic acid instead of LSD you will have a product that isn't psychedelic but has both monetary and intrinsic value. It also is schedule 3 so you wont do a life(death) sentence if caught.
Hmmm
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LSD is by no means easy to manufacture. You need a skilled chemist with a passion and experience for specific synthesis-methods, a professional big lab AND precursors, that you probably have to import from abroad.
If you want to know anything about LSD manifacture and history go read this thread: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1287892
It's only viewable with a shroomery-login and at least 10 posts thought. The title is "LSD-Crystal to blotter".
Crystal is probably much to much for you, we're talking about hundreds of thousands of trips here.
that's pretty much exactly what i said, except i believe that somebody with an intermediate understanding of chemistry could accomplish this with the guidance of a skilled chemist.
i'm sure there are precursors that most cooks would import but generally you can derive these from less scheduled chemicals or other means if correctly equipped and guided.
but after looking into it i probably would be better off making something easier and with a higher profit margin if i were to cook something up.
And don't forget that crystal isn't simply "much LSD". LSD works in so little doses, that people in the room get instantly (very!) high once you open the vial. (Note: i haven't had crystal myself, i'm just not too lazy to do proper research on drugs that interest me)
i have a g of crystal arriving early next week, i understand the safety principles that need to be adhered to when working with hazardous chemicals.
the govt probably wouldn't require much more than a half day course to obtain a license for you to handle similarly volatile chemicals.
And to make that clear: some of my friends are skilled chemists with PhDs. If you let them skim the synthesis-instructions they will tell you that
a) it's by no means a trivial task, meaning shit could explode, shit is poisoneous and so on
b) it's not straightforward, even if you do know everything about the process you still need "experience" for it to work. little tricks and so on.
c) you can do nothing without the precursors, which are highly controlled. you probably need to go to underground-labs in china to get the stuff. (ergonamin tartrate that is).
LSD is actually one of the hardest things to synthesize. Meth is much easier.
i never said it was trivial, just that it's perhaps not as hard as people with white coats on would have you believe.
i understand that if you wanted to cook up any chemical in a clandestine lab you would probably have to have a few goes at it before you get it perfect. a skilled mentor could probably help with that.
i understand that ergonamin tartrate can be arrived at via more than one route.
probably would make meth if i was going to make something.
Hey guys,
I am going to synth 50kg of LSD crystal in my kitchen, I am not naive at all, and I beleive I prolli have the intellectual capacity to conduct such a task. Thankfully, I saw sum1 selling ergotamine tartrate in the precursor section. So I went on google and typed in 'lsd synthesis' it said chuck all my ergot in the microwave for 30 seconds, followed by covering it in concentrated sulphuric acid which can then be consumed orally or layed on tabs, or dropped into your eyes! I heard, the more I boil the h2S04 the more concentrated it will get, so when it reaches my brain the better trip I get!!! Dw guys, I will put plenty of sulphuric acid on my tabs so you guys get the best trip as your brain slowly melts away (literally)!!! :))
Juz because certain people studeye organic synthesis for many years and conducted many lab tests, synths, pracs etc duz not mean i can't do it if i dun try. After all its simply follow the method 1. 2. 3. right?!??!
I really dun get how there is such a short demand of lsd, its so easy, if everyone puts dere mind to it..it can be made. Plz inbox me if you would like to get some samples of freshly microwaved lsd, straight from ya main man.
P.S: i promise to vac seal all products, happy tripping guys. Plz leave a review on the lsd review threads. I'm sure it'll be the best, and last thing you consume.
On a final note, eye want to say I am not da one millionth person tryna claim i'm going to cook sum LSD. I can clearly appreciate and fully understand the attention 2 detail required wen undertaking organic synthesis.
Similarly, I plan 2 try my hands at engineering next year. If some engineers can build bridges, WHY CAN'T I. I wonder if google has some teks for bridge building, looking for a co-partner?
fannks guys :) :) :)
real funny, sarcasm is the lowest for of wit.
the fact that you've created a troll account just to make that comment shows that you are deep down ashamed of that piss poor effort and don't want to face judgement by attaching it to your real account.
Joking aside, somebody made an interesting post in this thread:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=22454.0
Also something big is in the works regarding L synthesis. I'll give a liittle hint people on the clearweb and Family want you to think it is a lot harder than it really is. Start with vogels organic chemistry or lab survial manual. Read about hydrolysis and doing rxns under inert atmospher. L is litterally a 2 step process and what we need are more small labs more decentralization. Also if you go into the synth with just the intention of making Lysergic acid instead of LSD you will have a product that isn't psychedelic but has both monetary and intrinsic value. It also is schedule 3 so you wont do a life(death) sentence if caught.
Hmmm
thanks for that, hmm indeed. it seems i'm not the only one with respect for people who don't happen to have a Dr in front of their name :P
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Hey guys,
I am going to synth 50kg of LSD crystal in my kitchen, I am not naive at all, and I beleive I prolli have the intellectual capacity to conduct such a task. Thankfully, I saw sum1 selling ergotamine tartrate in the precursor section. So I went on google and typed in 'lsd synthesis' it said chuck all my ergot in the microwave for 30 seconds, followed by covering it in concentrated sulphuric acid which can then be consumed orally or layed on tabs, or dropped into your eyes! I heard, the more I boil the h2S04 the more concentrated it will get, so when it reaches my brain the better trip I get!!! Dw guys, I will put plenty of sulphuric acid on my tabs so you guys get the best trip as your brain slowly melts away (literally)!!! :))
Juz because certain people studeye organic synthesis for many years and conducted many lab tests, synths, pracs etc duz not mean i can't do it if i dun try. After all its simply follow the method 1. 2. 3. right?!??!
I really dun get how there is such a short demand of lsd, its so easy, if everyone puts dere mind to it..it can be made. Plz inbox me if you would like to get some samples of freshly microwaved lsd, straight from ya main man.
P.S: i promise to vac seal all products, happy tripping guys. Plz leave a review on the lsd review threads. I'm sure it'll be the best, and last thing you consume.
On a final note, eye want to say I am not da one millionth person tryna claim i'm going to cook sum LSD. I can clearly appreciate and fully understand the attention 2 detail required wen undertaking organic synthesis.
Similarly, I plan 2 try my hands at engineering next year. If some engineers can build bridges, WHY CAN'T I. I wonder if google has some teks for bridge building, looking for a co-partner?
fannks guys :) :) :)
going from the ergot alkaloids to lsd was definitely the simplest way to make LSD but you are skipping the ENTIRE lysergic acid process many people do not think this method is best...
"LSD From Ergot Alkaloids
This was invented by Hofmann and is a superior method because you may proceed from the ergot alkaloids to LSD without isolating the lysergic acid. CA, 57, 12568 (1962).
Add 1.2 g of ergotamine hydrochloride to 4 ml of anhydrous hydrazine and heat 1 hour at 90°. Add 20 ml of water and evaporate in vacuo, to get d-iso-lysergic acid hydrazine. 1 g of the lysergic hydrazine is powdered well and added to 40 ml of 0.1 N (ice cold) HC1 acid. To this, cooled to 0°, is added 4 ml of 1 N Na nitrite, with good stirring. Over 2-3 min, add 40 ml of 0.1 N HC1 acid to get pH to 5. Let stand for 5 min, basify with 1 N NaHCO3, extract with 100 ml of ether, and then with 50 ml of ether. Wash the ether layer with water and dry, then evaporate in vacuo at 10°. Dissolve the resulting yellow azide in about 5 ml of diethylamine at 0° and then heat in a metal bomb at 60° for 1 hour. If a bomb is unavailable you may get by with heating for 3-4 hours at 45° in a vented flask under a nitrogen atmosphere. Also, I would flush the bomb with nitrogen before sealing and heating. Remove heat after time elapses and let stand (after bleeding off pressure for bomb method) for 2 hours and evaporate in vacuo to get 0.7 g of LSD and 0.15 g of iso-LSD. The iso-LSD will not do anything (good or bad) if consumed, so you may leave it in with the LSD. You may also separate it and convert it to LSD as in the formulas ahove."
YOU DO NOT STICK IT IN THE FUCKING MICROWAVE I REALLY HOPE YOU WERE JOKING
Oxygen instantly degrades a very unstable LSD if you do not make it in a nitrogen environment you can't make it at all.. Anyone who tries to make LSD and does not know what they are doing and are just "winging it" will fail.
It took me a second to notice that dude was joking after reading all the posts of people thinking that all you have to do is try and follow a 1...2...3... step by step guide.. There is something called concepts and without special knowledge you will not understand these "concepts" no matter how much you think you might understand.
After all that is why Guss killed the mexican dude who knew the 1..2..3.. instead of Walter White
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You haven't looked into the synthesis but could 'prolli' handle it?
Life isn't Breaking Bad, meth being the simplest phenethylamine is ridiculously easy to make, yet here we sit with you casually conversing about the synthesis of a semisynthetic ergoline derivative (but a poly ergopeptine ergotamine analog of course) which is highly polyaromatic with a particularly fragile 'semi' nucleophilic ketone and you don't even seem to know what solvent you intend for your final product to be suspended in?
*facepalm*
I have to respectfully disagree. Although or because you seem to have some knowledge in this field of chemistry, you should know that if someone were to study it at a university and get up to a masters degree or even a phd, one should be able 'to look into it' and synthesize it. After all this is what a decent academic education should teach, picking up research by others and build your own stuff on top of it.
I have to agree with your skepticism though, the probability of this being the case is not very high. I guess meth, some amphetamines and more of the PEA-group can be manufactured by people with very little chemistry knowledge, eg. Jesse Pinkman to use your example :)
I know for a fact that making 1-2 grams of pure LSD is still considered a "right of passage" for chemistry grad students at a particular Indiana College. It's really not rocket science, but also not too easy for an amateur, like you say. But in all reality, the "hippie families" used to make the stuff in California and they were in a lot of ways the dregs of society. It's not impossible for someone with little chemistry knowledge, but I think they'd need to be apprenticed in the art (blatantly stealing your Jessie Pinkman example).
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Hey guys,
I am going to synth 50kg of LSD crystal in my kitchen, I am not naive at all, and I beleive I prolli have the intellectual capacity to conduct such a task. Thankfully, I saw sum1 selling ergotamine tartrate in the precursor section. So I went on google and typed in 'lsd synthesis' it said chuck all my ergot in the microwave for 30 seconds, followed by covering it in concentrated sulphuric acid which can then be consumed orally or layed on tabs, or dropped into your eyes! I heard, the more I boil the h2S04 the more concentrated it will get, so when it reaches my brain the better trip I get!!! Dw guys, I will put plenty of sulphuric acid on my tabs so you guys get the best trip as your brain slowly melts away (literally)!!! :))
Juz because certain people studeye organic synthesis for many years and conducted many lab tests, synths, pracs etc duz not mean i can't do it if i dun try. After all its simply follow the method 1. 2. 3. right?!??!
I really dun get how there is such a short demand of lsd, its so easy, if everyone puts dere mind to it..it can be made. Plz inbox me if you would like to get some samples of freshly microwaved lsd, straight from ya main man.
P.S: i promise to vac seal all products, happy tripping guys. Plz leave a review on the lsd review threads. I'm sure it'll be the best, and last thing you consume.
On a final note, eye want to say I am not da one millionth person tryna claim i'm going to cook sum LSD. I can clearly appreciate and fully understand the attention 2 detail required wen undertaking organic synthesis.
Similarly, I plan 2 try my hands at engineering next year. If some engineers can build bridges, WHY CAN'T I. I wonder if google has some teks for bridge building, looking for a co-partner?
fannks guys :) :) :)
going from the ergot alkaloids to lsd was definitely the simplest way to make LSD but you are skipping the ENTIRE lysergic acid process many people do not think this method is best...
"LSD From Ergot Alkaloids
This was invented by Hofmann and is a superior method because you may proceed from the ergot alkaloids to LSD without isolating the lysergic acid. CA, 57, 12568 (1962).
Add 1.2 g of ergotamine hydrochloride to 4 ml of anhydrous hydrazine and heat 1 hour at 90°. Add 20 ml of water and evaporate in vacuo, to get d-iso-lysergic acid hydrazine. 1 g of the lysergic hydrazine is powdered well and added to 40 ml of 0.1 N (ice cold) HC1 acid. To this, cooled to 0°, is added 4 ml of 1 N Na nitrite, with good stirring. Over 2-3 min, add 40 ml of 0.1 N HC1 acid to get pH to 5. Let stand for 5 min, basify with 1 N NaHCO3, extract with 100 ml of ether, and then with 50 ml of ether. Wash the ether layer with water and dry, then evaporate in vacuo at 10°. Dissolve the resulting yellow azide in about 5 ml of diethylamine at 0° and then heat in a metal bomb at 60° for 1 hour. If a bomb is unavailable you may get by with heating for 3-4 hours at 45° in a vented flask under a nitrogen atmosphere. Also, I would flush the bomb with nitrogen before sealing and heating. Remove heat after time elapses and let stand (after bleeding off pressure for bomb method) for 2 hours and evaporate in vacuo to get 0.7 g of LSD and 0.15 g of iso-LSD. The iso-LSD will not do anything (good or bad) if consumed, so you may leave it in with the LSD. You may also separate it and convert it to LSD as in the formulas ahove."
YOU DO NOT STICK IT IN THE FUCKING MICROWAVE I REALLY HOPE YOU WERE JOKING
Oxygen instantly degrades a very unstable LSD if you do not make it in a nitrogen environment you can't make it at all.. Anyone who tries to make LSD and does not know what they are doing and are just "winging it" will fail.
It took me a second to notice that dude was joking after reading all the posts of people thinking that all you have to do is try and follow a 1...2...3... step by step guide.. There is something called concepts and without special knowledge you will not understand these "concepts" no matter how much you think you might understand.
After all that is why Guss killed the mexican dude who knew the 1..2..3.. instead of Walter White
Umm...I'm pretty sure that would be a good example of something that is known as "sarcasm". I don't know for sure, I could be wrong.
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You haven't looked into the synthesis but could 'prolli' handle it?
Life isn't Breaking Bad, meth being the simplest phenethylamine is ridiculously easy to make, yet here we sit with you casually conversing about the synthesis of a semisynthetic ergoline derivative (but a poly ergopeptine ergotamine analog of course) which is highly polyaromatic with a particularly fragile 'semi' nucleophilic ketone and you don't even seem to know what solvent you intend for your final product to be suspended in?
*facepalm*
I have to respectfully disagree. Although or because you seem to have some knowledge in this field of chemistry, you should know that if someone were to study it at a university and get up to a masters degree or even a phd, one should be able 'to look into it' and synthesize it. After all this is what a decent academic education should teach, picking up research by others and build your own stuff on top of it.
I have to agree with your skepticism though, the probability of this being the case is not very high. I guess meth, some amphetamines and more of the PEA-group can be manufactured by people with very little chemistry knowledge, eg. Jesse Pinkman to use your example :)
I know for a fact that making 1-2 grams of pure LSD is still considered a "right of passage" for chemistry grad students at a particular Indiana College. It's really not rocket science, but also not too easy for an amateur, like you say. But in all reality, the "hippie families" used to make the stuff in California and they were in a lot of ways the dregs of society. It's not impossible for someone with little chemistry knowledge, but I think they'd need to be apprenticed in the art (blatantly stealing your Jessie Pinkman example).
What hippie families? If I recall people were able to buy it in a drug-store and that's how it was widely available not because hippies were off making it..
Then their was the family acid that the dead were so popular for promoting but trust me when I say wolf, bear, whatever you want to call him was a skilled chemist
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I'm reposting what I've heard about the hippie families. I have no direct knowledge of that era in California just what I've heard repeated in media. So, I'll defer to your expertise in the matter. Thank you for correcting my statement.
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I'm reposting what I've heard about the hippie families. I have no direct knowledge of that era in California just what I've heard repeated in media. So, I'll defer to your expertise in the matter. Thank you for correcting my statement.
My bad I didn't mean to come off like a wise-ass but I know that I do a lot especially when I think I know more about something.
But you are probably correct I'm sure there were many people who turned to making it themselves after it was banned because Hippies did come from all walks of alife, a lot of whom were quite educated with the ability to do so.
Rather I should have been like so:: ALSO, up until it was banned in the late 60's people could buy it in places like CVS or Wal-Greens. The term family acid became popular in part because the grateful dead would just give it away at some of their shows. The hippies believed that acid was closely related to what the yogis and gurus described in the vedic sciences and how you experience reality after many years of meditation and thus it became sort of a religion for many hippies and a means to expand consciousness.
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LOL Not at all good sir, you came off as knowing more about it than myself. I like being corrected when I'm wrong, it reduces my ignorance, slightly. ;)
Regards.
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The real secret to understanding a complex synth like this involves purification of the end-product. Extensive knowledge of thin-layer liquid chromatography is needed to separate the iso- and other byproducts out. It will not crystalize if you do not provide it with an anhydrous oxygen-free environment with certain atmospheric conditions. In addition, the Hydrolysis is not as simple as disolving ET in THF and cooking it in a beaker. if there is *any* contamination by halogens in the solvent/precursor/reagents it will render it worthless. Even the final washing requires substantial knowledge of filtration and separation techniques, finalized by the Chromatography and wash, all of the time risking accidental exposure which will render you batshit crazy. There is a reason it is made in medium-sized batches, you wouldn't want to ruin $1mil in product.