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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: kingpinirl on November 13, 2012, 08:02 pm
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Well, with the downtime, I figured I'd checkout BMR. I looked at the site 6-8 months ago and it was total garbage. Not much has appeared to have changed. I'd rather do a deal out of escrow on the forums here than in escrow there. The vendors (at least domestic US vendors) all have sporadic feedback and very limited product selection.
I don't think it's a viable alternative, even during the downtime.
One thing I praise them on is the speed! I felt like I was on a clearnet site. Blazing fast speed loading pages. I'm sure this is due to lack of web traffic, but was impressive none the less. Plus, I liked the small pictures vs SR's large pictures. In fact, I'd be happy if the pictures were only present after you click the listing (like they used to be).
For US customers looking to stay domestic, I don't think US customers will find anything of value there. If I'm missing something, chime in and let me know.
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I know of at least one well reviewed SR US domestic vendor who is selling there...
I don't like how the site automatically PGP encrypts the buyer's address for them. At the most it should be an optional feature, not required. I would recommend messaging the vendor with your PGP encrypted address separately from the order form.
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I gave it a looksee too, and I pretty much agree. A huge portion of the listings are either: obvious scams, or from vendors with little to no credibility. The few I'm confident enough to call legit are typically overseas in high risk countries. Just not very worth it for me right now. I might take a shot if SR stays down the rest of the week.
BMR could definitely shape up to compete with SR. They just don't have the kind of stuff SR has in place for its community. They don't even have much of a community. Maybe with the "exodus" going on (I seriously have not seen more than two vendors make the jump) BMR will gain the community it needs to shapen up.
I hope so, competition would be nice.
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how do you perform an escrow deal on the forum?
~Michael
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how do you perform an escrow deal on the forum?
~Michael
You can't. OP said they'd rather do an "out of escrow" buy on the forums than a BMR in-escrow transaction.
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DudeRugs and Modziw are on BMR. You can trust them.
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how do you perform an escrow deal on the forum?
~Michael
You can't. OP said they'd rather do an "out of escrow" buy on the forums than a BMR in-escrow transaction.
My mistake
i don't think bmr's as bad as i used to. it lacks a lot, but makes up for it in other ways.
if the impatient people here moved to bmr, the cash and population boost would turn it into a much better resource
~M
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I did a small order from a well known vendor. More out of interest (or boredom) than anything else. The vendor in question is very good on Silk Road and so I thought it worth a punt to see if it really is who they say they are. I'll know from the packaging if they are. If so then I'll report back on how it goes.
if this works then whilst MBR may be smaller, it is actually up and running.
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Hello Guys, please excuse my bad english but i think all understand it. :-[
I visit BMR 6 Months ago too,and i think this site is very bad it can never reach SR !
Because SR is actually down (HOPE it comes back-if not its a real nightmare for us all :( !!! -
i make a order there.vendor answered all my pm´s before i ordered.
After i transfer the bitcoins to make a test order he not response aggain.
Order waiting and waiting. I think u all can believe me that i MISS MY REAL VENDORS
from SR !!! BMR is bullshit,but maybe this site wake up because all SR Members visit it...
HAS NOBOY AN IDEA,A OTHER ONION PAGE WHERE SELLING DRUGS ????
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I wouldn't buy at all from anyone not from SR or without feedback.
It would be nice to see more Canadian vendors from SR on there but I'm not inpatient. Either a) SR will come back up soon or, b) it won't and SR vendors will all migrate there (or somewhere else?).
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i sell on BMR and SR, under UKmaryjane on BMR, i registered accounts on both SR and BMR at the same time, traffic on BMR is pretty much non-existent, I have made 1 sale on there and after a quiet time went into vacation mode, coming out of it when SR went down in case any SR buyers headed that way.
So here is the thing, BMR is pretty much like SR when it comes to drugs, yes there are other services and products on there and they may or may not be scams, not all will be and checking feedback is pretty effective way to not get scammed especially after they changed the way feedback was given so that small sales no longer count to feedback, so feedback could not be padded. The escrow service is just the same as on SR. Whoever said they would prefer to have an out of escrow deal on these forums over an escrow deal on BMR is an idiot looking to get scammed.
For vendors on the site the costs are low compared to SR and you dont have to buy the account so that can help. It certainly has a niche or two, if i had to identify one it does look like it is widely used in finland to buy weed. the largest weed seller, or the one with the most feedback, is finnish domestic only.
If you want to try it out, try it out, dont listen to naysayers on these forums. They talk as if scamming is non existent on SR and if you have spent any time on these forums you will know that is not true. Even today scammers are active, BTC/Moneypak is currently the worst it seems, but there is still the traditional retirement scam from long term vendors. So take the same care as you would with an order from SR, avoid negative feedback vendors, check the feedback, stay in escrow, check the last time the vendor logged in before you think of placing an order and check the forums.
thats it, stay safe
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I checked out bmr too when I 1st found silkroad but out of 3 transactions I only received 1 and got a refund for 1 of them. BMR has 2 big issues the feedback system doesn't seem to be effective at all there are loads of vendors who have been around for a while with little or no feedback so its hard to tell who to trust. Also their forum is great and not as in depth as SR forum, this might change if they got more traffic. As someone said previously if they had more traffic, they would have more resources to improve the whole site and forum.
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Good to hear UKMJ
I loaded btc's to my sr wallet to pick up an 1/8 of that amazing OG so im hoping for SR to repair however if not will see you over there
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UKMJ,
I wasn't trying to discourage anyone from trying BMR, just giving my impressions. I couldn't find reliable feedback for anyone domestic. If anyone has US domestic vendors on BMR that are reliable, please let me know. I'd love to do something in the downtime. Plus - if their site begins gaining traction, we will have two viable choices.
I wish there were 3 or 4 "SR's" out there for consumers to choose from. It would not only keep prices down, but would prevent downtime as well.
Trust me - I love SR, but the more options the better. At this time, I don't think BMR is a viable option for my needs, but if you live in other countries it could be a wonderful option.
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I'd be giving that place a few months settling period if SR is gone. It will be a hotbed of chancers and it will take that time to get some proper vendors moved over.
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I also checked out BMR, and was excited to see c63amg had an account. Turns out it's not him though....
I just read a post from c63amg on a different thread clearing this up... so buyer beware.
"We don't Work or Sell On BMR
(Black Market Reloaded)
Strictly SR
We should all have faith in SR and rely on the Service and Safety that they give
I don't Know If BMR is reliable."
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There are a few trusted SR vendors that set up some listings on BMR, that's the only reason I placed an order there yesterday. For anything other than cannabis, I would just wait for SR to get back up and running.
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I just checked BMR out...It actually seems really nice. I do agree with the rating system though...I will definitely use it if SR stays down.
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As time goes on vendors, and buyers will have no choice. You should at least take a look. ::)
If you thought SR was full of scams, well enter into a new world my friends. ;D
Hopefully a few good vendors move over to hedge their bets, and we will follow. It's got to be getting hard for the coke, H, and pill users. :-[
I have looked at BMR, it needs organization. If it's not reliable, we need to make it reliable. Hopefully we all learned a lesson about putting all your eggs/BTC in one basket. I understand things can happen. This proves a need for a second system. The problem with that, is it could be a security problem. So be careful!
Time to move forward. BMR isn't second, if it's the only game in town;)
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Just had another look . Looked earlier in the year and it looks better than it did but its clearly miles behind SR. Looking at cocaine vendors and they all look like scams , hard to work out whos legit. Forums are too empty aswel. Theres one vendor called 'theseedbank' his feedback score is 76 ( number of feedback comments i think) the next highest is about 7 lol. I prefer SR but tempted to vend over their aswel, mayb fill the empty space for a decent cola dealer? I guess it takes established vendors on here to go over there and make a name for themselves
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Can anyone recommend a good UK weed vendor who operates on BMR? Are any of the many reliable UK weed vendors from SR on there? I'm thinking of trying that site out while SR is down. I signed up there a while ago but never placed any orders because I was happy with SR and I'd read here on the forums that BMR is supposedly full of scammers. Hopefully SR is up again soon but I want have at least a temporary plan B since it seems unclear when SR will be back.
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I checked out BMR last week after a fellow TOR user showed me the site over coffee. He said he prefers it but on my own I could not see why other than lower traffic makes the servers less likely to take a dump. Lack of a real forum like this is no good for me. I am here because often the things I like are very impure on the street and here I can get good info usually on vendors and product. Things I would expect in a prohibition free market you know? Safety first because life is too precious to risk taking poison that is supposed to be MDMA etc...
I for one will wait this out and see. I like what gut says about DPR, his philosophy and reason for being here. Liberty
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Well, with the downtime, I figured I'd checkout BMR. I looked at the site 6-8 months ago and it was total garbage. Not much has appeared to have changed. I'd rather do a deal out of escrow on the forums here than in escrow there. The vendors (at least domestic US vendors) all have sporadic feedback and very limited product selection.
I don't think it's a viable alternative, even during the downtime.
One thing I praise them on is the speed! I felt like I was on a clearnet site. Blazing fast speed loading pages. I'm sure this is due to lack of web traffic, but was impressive none the less. Plus, I liked the small pictures vs SR's large pictures. In fact, I'd be happy if the pictures were only present after you click the listing (like they used to be).
For US customers looking to stay domestic, I don't think US customers will find anything of value there. If I'm missing something, chime in and let me know.
I've noticed a few SR vendors have started new accounts there. I've already done a deal with an SR vendor over there. I don't know about the place for starting a new relationship with a vendor due to the lack of established feedback, but for now, you might be able to do business with your usual vendors while we wait for SR to come back up.
However, what really bothers me is the "automatic encryption" to the vendor. I strongly suggest that anyone doing business on BMR send their address encrypted manually to the vendor via a PM, since BMR has no need to see your shipping address in clear text.
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You can disable auto-encryption at account settings.
Just keep smart for scammers trying to get SR names.
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Yeh like the layout, looks very good. Loading time is brill aswel.Reckon i will vend there in a day or 2 see how it goes, will stay on SR so if its quiet its no loss as vendor fee only 1btc. And if i mention to people on here that im on there aswell , people will know im legit. could also help sales if we have downtime on here. Saying all this im only a new vendor on here so its all just theory lol
:)
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That loading time is going be sllooowwwiiinnnggg down, hehe.
You need to watch out for sellers scamming using your favorite vendor's SR name.
If I was a vendor I would pinch their user name on BMR, NOW!!!!
Doesn't mean you have to biz there, but protect your name.
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Curiousity and a rapidly dwindling pharmaceutical supply sent me to BMR as well but most of the vendors are from major flag countries for my location and not enough vendor feedback to give me confidence to take the plunge... I do like the interface though. Has anyone bought Tramadol or other pharma from BMR? I want to wait for SR but the idea of spending Christmas coming off is not one I relish.
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There are a few trusted SR vendors that set up some listings on BMR, that's the only reason I placed an order there yesterday.
I hope you checked with those vendors on the SR forums that it is them on BMR and not a scam. There are numerous scam vendors on BMR that pretend to be SR vendors using the same name and product listings and such.
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I've got 3 order in progress on BMR, but one is with a SR vendor. Seems alright so far. You can stay in escrow.
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My mate got suckered in by the c63amg clone on BMR. He reckons the guy's communication was very similar to c63, which really gave him hope it was the real deal. Anyway, he finalised early on a 2 btc sample, so we'll see what happens....
Is someone simply using c63's rep to get their legit business going, or is it a straight rip-off? Will let you know....
The feedback system on BMR is confusing. Doesn't seem to work on a score system and it lists the name/profile of the person leaving feedback. Looking forward to SR getting back up properly.
Cheers,
PTF
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yeah, BMR seems well dodgy...
It's all about the vendors though innit (not enough good ones on BMR) ??
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Yeah im sure if more vendors from here went on there it would pick up and it would be somewhere to go if SR has issues.
Im going to open one in a day or 2.
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Ok so i got my account up. im vending on BMR to help with the SR downtimes.
:)
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I tried it out through boredom as SR was down. I did the smallest transaction I could with somebody who claimed to be on SR. It was a scam. I'm down a few bitcoins, but hey ho, thats life.
Personally speaking I wouldn't bother. The number of transactions are low, it's too easy to scam and its a mine field. I'd trust absolutely no one.
For all the SR vendors who are looking at using BMR you need a mechanism to show that you are who you say you are on Silk Road. The only thing I can think of is PGP signatures, which means that we MUST start to use them. Other people may have better ideas.
Since Silk Road appears to have some pretty bad reliability problems at the moment, an alternative that's reliable is a good investment.
I'd love to have the time to build a replacement to SR but its just too much hassle.
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I tried it out through boredom as SR was down. I did the smallest transaction I could with somebody who claimed to be on SR. It was a scam. I'm down a few bitcoins, but hey ho, thats life.
Personally speaking I wouldn't bother. The number of transactions are low, it's too easy to scam and its a mine field. I'd trust absolutely no one.
For all the SR vendors who are looking at using BMR you need a mechanism to show that you are who you say you are on Silk Road. The only thing I can think of is PGP signatures, which means that we MUST start to use them. Other people may have better ideas.
Since Silk Road appears to have some pretty bad reliability problems at the moment, an alternative that's reliable is a good investment.
I'd love to have the time to build a replacement to SR but its just too much hassle.
Totally agree with the PGP's.
Seems pretty dead over there still
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I found Mr Cronk to be very trust worthy on BMR. I ended up ordering direct from him with a discount,
http://2s5tloxulkn2hwe3.onion
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Cool story, Mr. Cronk
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If one stays in escrow on BMR, how is one losing coin?