Silk Road forums
Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: TheStealthyRacoon on October 11, 2012, 07:24 am
-
UPDATE: His account has been suspended, a lot of people have lost a lot of money.
So MrFireUK has deliver some excellent products at great prices,
but he has also tried to pull a fast one in respect to his speed (sending out high quality samples and then sending rubbish in the actual orders)
Now he is asking all customers (other than those with three or more previous orders with him) to FE. ???
Dosnt matter what your stats say (And mine suffice for ESCROW from any other vendor) he will still require it.
Now normally this wouldn't be to much of a concern, I would just avoid...
BUT
He has racked up over 100 BTC of FE JUST IN THE LAST 5 HOURS.
I haven't bothered to look past 5 hours, into 24 hours or yesterday, because there are SO many orders, it would take me too much time. (Anyone who wants to do this please do, and post your total back here in the thread)
One of you has just FE'd on 26 BTC worth of stuff, two more on around 20 BTC, etc...
So please people. Lets be careful here, ok?
If he comes through I will sing his praises from the rooftop, but if I have learnt anything from, Christ, the lists a long one so I will pick the most famous; Tony, and his 420 FE sale, its you can never be too careful.
-
I released funds to MFUK about 10 hours ago for a US$400 order that did not arrive, with the promise of a refund out of escrow (risky I know, but a risk I chose to take). I'll post back.
-
I released funds to MFUK about 10 hours ago for a US$400 order that did not arrive, with the promise of a refund out of escrow (risky I know, but a risk I chose to take). I'll post back.
I dont mean to be rude to you lemonjam, not in any way, but when I read this my mouth dropped to the floor!
Maybe I am missing a trick that you and MrFire are using, because I dont why offering you a refund through escrow is any less appealing than him sending it privately. The only reason I can spot is for you to protect your buyers stats, however, I think this is a lot of money to risk to do this.
Either way, yes, it would be excellent if you can report back when you can that he has read your message (that I have assumed you have sent him). If he reads your message and no money has come through to you, please let us know immediately, because that is a clear scammer red light and would really be appreciated by the rest of the forum.
-
Also, to give a general update...
I went back to his profile to see what was poppin'...and two things...
1.) People continue to FE. Another page and more since I started this thread. Two for over 20 BTC worth of weed...
2.) More "Order never arrived, partial refund given" reviews, which is a great increase. Before everyone would sing his praises, and for the orders that didnt get through he would offer amazing compensation. Not anymore.
One of the orders was for 10 grams MDMA..."Partial refund" OUCH. (Still gave 4/5 stars for the privilege of this though)
Also just to clear this up encase anyone asks; I am not making accusations here, merely speculating. The forum is here to protect buyers and 9/10 "Ive been scammed posts" come from SR users who have never used the forum before (they only joined when they got scammed) and if they had simply skimmed the forum they would have found out that the vendor they want to buy from has gone rouge.
Eg: LadyLucy...For weeks after we had confirmed her as a scammer we had people post on the thread "I only just made an order with her..."
So yea, hence the this thread. I dont want to be right. I would LOVE to be wrong, and if I was, I would maybe risk FE'ing for a sheet of shivas.
-
I released funds to MFUK about 10 hours ago for a US$400 order that did not arrive, with the promise of a refund out of escrow (risky I know, but a risk I chose to take). I'll post back.
I don't mean to be rude to you lemonjam, not in any way, but when I read this my mouth dropped to the floor!
Maybe I am missing a trick that you and MrFire are using, because I dont why offering you a refund through escrow is any less appealing than him sending it privately. The only reason I can spot is for you to protect your buyers stats, however, I think this is a lot of money to risk to do this.
Either way, yes, it would be excellent if you can report back when you can that he has read your message (that I have assumed you have sent him). If he reads your message and no money has come through to you, please let us know immediately, because that is a clear scammer red light and would really be appreciated by the rest of the forum.
Buyer stats is the reason. It's no more appealing to him (unless he intends to run off with it) - he offered me that after I was reluctant to accept a 60% refund through the resolution centre. It is alot of money to risk, but bad buyer stats make it harder not to risk more money in the future because other vendors won't let me stay in escrow.
I did send him a message and it is still unread. The other annoying thing is I realised I did it right at the beginning of the day in UTC, so the "last active" field on his vendor page isn't going to tell me anything useful for a while.
He offered me and a bunch of other people who had been waiting a while a 60% refund. It didn't scare me too much because none of the feedback from the refunds was coming from orders for LSD, and he sells such a huge amount of the other stuff that I could believe he had a bit of a backlog.
I know its happened before, but you have to wonder whether the money he could run off with now is worth throwing away the raging business he is running. All the signs are consistent with a scam (partial refunds to placate a lot of old orders (many to Australia) that potentially weren't sent, lots of new orders FEing) but then again its also consistent with an honest seller trying to operate on a lowish margin (and realistically, given how much stuff he sells he must either be a team of people or have others working for him)
Anyway yeah, I'll let you all know.
-
aghhh lame
nerly vent for him ageyn, even thou never arrived b4
-
..Also just to clear this up encase anyone asks; I am not making accusations here, merely speculating. The forum is here to protect buyers and 9/10 "Ive been scammed posts" come from SR users who have never used the forum before (they only joined when they got scammed) and if they had simply skimmed the forum they would have found out that the vendor they want to buy from has gone rouge.
Yeah I was one of those ... ;D
-
I've ordered twice from MrFireUK and I am actually happy to see this thread. The quantity of orders he is taking in is very high and this reminds me of both Sesampino and SuperTrips. Sesampino was one of the best / biggest vendors for MDMA (among other things) but then he all but vanished and tons of people didn't get their orders. SuperTrips was taking in high quantities of orders and people ended up waiting over 40 days in some cases for their stuff.
The irony is that I've repped MrFireUK within the last few weeks and now I will pay the price because his products are in high demand, and high demand creates some risk. By requiring people to Finalize Early he has ensured that a.) all of his recent reviews contain nothing of real importance because the recent reviews are not from people who have received (or not received) their orders, and b.) these people tend to give 5/5 while Finalizing Early.
If someone finalizes early and gives less than 5 out of 5, can the vendor see which specific users / orders have given which Vendor Feedback? Perhaps it'd be smart for buyers to start rating people down for requiring FE.
I plan on ordering MDMA worth over 100 BTC this weekend and was planning on using MrFireUK but his current situation reminds me of other scammers right before they vanished (with everyone's BTC). MrFireUK is more than welcome to join this thread and express his / her thoughts...
-
Yeah I was one of those ... ;D
Ahh, sorry to hear that. Well, your here now. SR should really promote the forum more on the marketplace
And @danconia
Your right, he has elevated to bulk order status, which is what makes it all the more risky. If he turned scammer most would only loose twenty quid or so, but for some who have made larger orders, they get hit hard.
If MrFireUk cannot make an exception for ESCROW with a 100BTC order then .... ???
Also MrFireUk isnt as active a member on the forums as some vendors, so I can understand if we dont get a statement for a couple of days, which is fair enough.
{On a side note; how much MDMA do you plan to get for 100BTC?}
-
I was asked to FE as well, i complained about, because iam a return buyer. Received my order today. some speed, all good!
-
Well thats reassuring news!
I think a week or two of news like that will restore my confidence in him personally, and maybe others. However, as FE may put some people off ordering for the first week you cant say for sure if its a tactical move by him to continue to ensure orders are sent. Again, speculation, I make no accusations.
-
Well thats reassuring news!
I think a week or two of news like that will restore my confidence in him personally, and maybe others. However, as FE may put some people off ordering for the first week you cant say for sure if its a tactical move by him to continue to ensure orders are sent. Again, speculation, I make no accusations.
For the record I finalized early about 10 days ago and got my order (25g of MDMA) to the west USA within 5 business days. For 100 BTC I'll be getting ~50g of MDMA from one or two vendors. I'm ramping up so having all of my eggs in one basket makes me a bit nervous. I've ordered twice before from MrFireUK so maybe between that and the size of the order he'll give me a break on the finalizing early but we'll see.
-
"Finalized Early! VERY TRUSTED VENDOR!" (80BTC)
I take some risks now and again, but I'm not happy about it...
Still nothing, message unread etc.
Does anyone remember the precise order of events when Tony76 went bad? As I understand it was just one huge sale where everyone had to FE. If MFUK does something similar then I think it will be more clever - maybe progressively sending less orders so he can scam a proportion of people before its completely obvious what's going on. He could stop sending international orders a month before all the others for example.
patiently waiting...
-
Im waiting a week for one gram of his to Ireland, have had alot quicker deliveries with other vendors in the past, fingers crossed he hasnt turned into one of those lowlifes!
-
Nope, nothing. We've started the new day in UTC and his page shows today as the last seen time, with others on the forum confirming he's shipped orders. Fuck this, MFUK is a scammer and has run away with $500 of my money. I might have taken a silly risk but that doesn't excuse dishonesty on his part.
-
"Finalized Early! VERY TRUSTED VENDOR!" (80BTC)
I take some risks now and again, but I'm not happy about it...
Still nothing, message unread etc.
Does anyone remember the precise order of events when Tony76 went bad? As I understand it was just one huge sale where everyone had to FE. If MFUK does something similar then I think it will be more clever - maybe progressively sending less orders so he can scam a proportion of people before its completely obvious what's going on. He could stop sending international orders a month before all the others for example.
patiently waiting...
I wasn't here when Tony76 went rogue but I would also expect a scammer to start scamming the long-distance international orders first, then shorter-distance international, and then domestic. That way everyone's stuff doesn't show up at the same time.
Again I'm not saying MrFireUK is a scammer but as a buyer the high volume of orders causes some nervousness. At this point I think I'll try to avoid using him for my next order.
-
well hes rbeen respondnig to my messsages. he was complaining about having to respond to 210 messages etc..
I thhink we've got a case of a man who's getting high on his own supply and is losing a grip of things
-
well hes rbeen respondnig to my messsages. he was complaining about having to respond to 210 messages etc..
I thhink we've got a case of a man who's getting high on his own supply and is losing a grip of things
he's responded to me as well... i'll let the dust settle and see what happens. seems like a legit dude, but then again everyone does at first
-
he was complaining about having to respond to 210 messages etc..
Thats fair enough, he is a very popular vendor after all, and is probably is dealing with mostly messages regarding his FE policy. However if he reads a message regarding, say, a refund, and then ignores it for 24 hours and nothing comes through, well those are the important things we need to note.
-
he was complaining about having to respond to 210 messages etc..
Thats fair enough, he is a very popular vendor after all, and is probably is dealing with mostly messages regarding his FE policy. However if he reads a message regarding, say, a refund, and then ignores it for 24 hours and nothing comes through, well those are the important things we need to note.
Exactly what im waiting on....
-
..... I thhink we've got a case of a man who's getting high on his own supply and is losing a grip of things
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
-
he was complaining about having to respond to 210 messages etc..
Thats fair enough, he is a very popular vendor after all, and is probably is dealing with mostly messages regarding his FE policy. However if he reads a message regarding, say, a refund, and then ignores it for 24 hours and nothing comes through, well those are the important things we need to note.
Yeah I can see all of those messages becoming annoying. But then again that comes with the territory (especially when you ask people to FE). Of course buyers keep using him so what incentive does he have to slow down the rate at which he takes new orders? Once again buyers are not flexing their muscle.
-
Nothing again today, ive got stuff alot quicker before, this is shit.
-
I hope this isn't true. I'm waiting on some speed right now from him. He responded to my messages really quick last week. Hopefully my order shows up this week, and I'll report back.
-
Lets see, I did warn about this a few weeks back.
I really hope for my sake it isn't true though because believe me, after seeing some of the dumb shit that goes on down here...words just can not explain
Hey guys ,
yeah a few updates posted on my vendor page ..
The delays ONLY affected the last few open UK orders , the german shipping was/is running like a clockwork ;)
I've got the MDMA crystals as well as the LSD today (it's already in transit to my german mate .. listings will be up soon!)
I've changed my FE policy - for orders with a total amount of less than 250$ no FE is required for any customer - including those from the US and Australia.
NO FE required for orders with a total amount of 500$ or less for domestic orders .. everything else will be decided individually.
Everyone who finalizes early although it was not required will receive a 10% bonus to show my appreciation ;)
Also had to change my refund policy after it got abused by a few customers.
Will go and grab something to eat now and then continue to read all your messages and answer them as quickly as possible ..
@linemup
I know of a few aussie orders that already made it through fine .. keep me updated on the status of your order!
Cheers
I was going to post the other day when I saw your posts about how people aren't releasing early and how certain people owe you money, I thought to myself I wonder when this seller is going to come back asking for FE.
A seller for one month, with over 300 transactions, you don't half move quick son.
Nice scam you got going on here
Dude you obviously can't read.
I changed my policy to NO FE REQUIRED FROM ANYONE ... fucking dumbass learn to read..
So far I've only required customers from the US and Australia to FE .. from now on nobody has to FE .. alright , got it ?
Geez *facepalm*
yeahhhhhhh? from your profile:
Finalizing orders :
- no FE required for orders with a total of 250$ or less, this applies to ALL customers worldwide
- no FE required for orders with a total of 500$ or less for domestic orders from Germany
- FE might be required for orders that do not fall in the above categories
So if I order oder is 500 dollars and I am from USA I will be asked to finalise, but I mean you must be legit since you will let me stay in escrow for orders under 250
hahaha idiot, go back to topix scumbag
LIKEWOAH! Almost 2 months ago I picked up on the bad vibes from this cunt.
-
So Mr Fire sent me this message:
"Hey mate,
sorry for the late reply - please calm down , yes I've been online but I'm getting about 150 messages a day and sometimes it may take a while before I reply.
You'll have the coins in your account within the next hour , I just have to wait like half an hour before I got some coins in my account again.
I think your acting a bit unfair .. you did not even give me a full day before starting to post shit on the forums about me , even though I've offered you a 60% refund although you've actually agreed to my terms which state that I don't give refunds for lost orders ... gotta love the SR community , honestly all this bullshit talk and the accusations I have to deal with every single day when I'm just trying my best to make every customer happy , giving out unjustified refunds and shit really makes me want to quit.
Cheers and as I said you'll have the coins in your account very soon , don't worry about that... and then you'll probably even receive that order some time soon .."
This was about a day ago.
1. I made my order before he made a bullshit policy about FE and no refunds
2. He might be getting 150 messages a day but he is well aware what my message is about and dealing with it should be a priority
3. There is no way in hell he doesn't have enough coins in his account to give me a refund. He gets like $2000 coming in every fucking hour.
4. Still no refund in my account
You've got to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
Nobody should buy from a guy like this. Buying from him encourages scammers and cheats. It's no good having good prices if the product doesn't get there and customers are abandoned as soon as they part with their money.
-
So Mr Fire sent me this message:
"Hey mate,
sorry for the late reply - please calm down , yes I've been online but I'm getting about 150 messages a day and sometimes it may take a while before I reply.
You'll have the coins in your account within the next hour , I just have to wait like half an hour before I got some coins in my account again.
I think your acting a bit unfair .. you did not even give me a full day before starting to post shit on the forums about me , even though I've offered you a 60% refund although you've actually agreed to my terms which state that I don't give refunds for lost orders ... gotta love the SR community , honestly all this bullshit talk and the accusations I have to deal with every single day when I'm just trying my best to make every customer happy , giving out unjustified refunds and shit really makes me want to quit.
Cheers and as I said you'll have the coins in your account very soon , don't worry about that... and then you'll probably even receive that order some time soon .."
This was about a day ago.
1. I made my order before he made a bullshit policy about FE and no refunds
2. He might be getting 150 messages a day but he is well aware what my message is about and dealing with it should be a priority
3. There is no way in hell he doesn't have enough coins in his account to give me a refund. He gets like $2000 coming in every fucking hour.
4. Still no refund in my account
You've got to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
Nobody should buy from a guy like this. Buying from him encourages scammers and cheats. It's no good having good prices if the product doesn't get there and customers are abandoned as soon as they part with their money.
Mate im in the same boat...
Never received a speed order and was offered refund via resolution center, i sent msg asking if i finalize could he send coins straight to my account.. he said that is fine so my buyer stats dont get fucked up..
I finalized, 2 days past and no coins :( so i sent msg asking where my coins are.... He replied after 2 days saying the exact same thing...
You should have the coins in your account within an hour??? It has been 2 days since he said an hour....
STILL NO COINS IN MY ACCOUNT.... THIS IS FUCKED!!!
-
I told people, they told me I was crazy, stupid and even a competitor.
;D ;D
-
sad... the old saying is so true though, if it looks too good to be true, it probably is :(
im sure there is still a glimmer of hope that this isn't the case with MrFireUK... i'm still holding off to find out. i'd love to grab some things off of him but I can't deal with risk right now
-
Received an order from MrFireUK on the 11th, just three days after he asked me to FE. He responded promptly to my messages though.
Made another order yesterday, nothing big. Sure sounds sketchy. I hope everyone finds their goods in the mail tomorrow.
-
nice first post.
-
spam bump down
-
Received an order from MrFireUK on the 11th, just three days after he asked me to FE. He responded promptly to my messages though.
Please provide screen shots of said order if you want us to believe that.
Otherwise, I remind noob forum members to disregard any new posters.
-
I got nothing from him again today, surely turned scam or was bullshitting when he said it was in transit cos it aint here yet! Germany post to Ireland is 4days, always.
-
Received an order from MrFireUK on the 11th, just three days after he asked me to FE. He responded promptly to my messages though.
Please provide screen shots of said order if you want us to believe that.
Otherwise, I remind noob forum members to disregard any new posters.
Im getting an "Uploader Folder Full" error. I will try to post my screenshot later.
-
upload your screenshot here and post link
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion
-
Received an order from MrFireUK on the 11th, just three days after he asked me to FE. He responded promptly to my messages though.
Please provide screen shots of said order if you want us to believe that.
Otherwise, I remind noob forum members to disregard any new posters.
I know that as a noob, I have zero legitimacy. Here is a link to the screenshot
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/upload/d80eaffe28e7ec8a8933cc8c096a391c.jpg
I was wrong about how long it took to get to me. What I said was a little too....Speedy ;D I don't know what would make me do that! It was EIGHT days between FE and delivery to u.s.
The bottom three messages are from my last interaction with him, which turned out fine.
The top two are from my current order. I shot him a message after I read this thread to see if I would get a reply. Sure enough 12 hours later.
Now I dont necessarily trust him, with this little experience on silk road, but nothing seems out of the ordinary to me.
I am ordering very small quantities of his speed. I can't say if he treats customers different for larger quantities but he has turned out to be a straight shooter as far as I can tell.
I think all yall your orders will come.
Hope that's thorough enough for you.
-
Hope that's thorough enough for you.
Well, I was never really asking for anything on this thread, but I am glad you uploaded a pic to back up what you said, unfortunately until you have a few more posts under your belt you may be doing it a few more times in the future haha.
Also, shame about his comment about the forum. I guess I am the nasty troll as I started this thread :P
-
Hope that's thorough enough for you.
Well, I was never really asking for anything on this thread, but I am glad you uploaded a pic to back up what you said, unfortunately until you have a few more posts under your belt you may be doing it a few more times in the future haha.
Also, shame about his comment about the forum. I guess I am the nasty troll as I started this thread :P
yeah, its not that he ran away with people's money, its all a conspiracy by evil trolls who don't understand him...
-
I'am waiting since 4. October (domestic) for 1g Weed from MrFireUK and nothing arrived. :(
I will update, if i receive it.
-
Hi Silkroaders,
Buyed from MrFireUK 200x Shiva Blotters and FE but dont recieved :-(
Wait over 7 Days
Send from Germany to Germany.
I contacted SR Support reason: MrFireUK
I am very angry but MrFireUK answer me today:
Hey mate,
calm down , sorry I had a lot of things to do and I will look into this - what country did that order go to ?
If it turns out that my mate actually forgot about your order then I will make it up to you with a nice extra... will get back to you tomorrow morning.
Sorry for any delay if it was our fault.
Cheers
I hope i recieved my 200x Blotters now !!!!!!!!!!!!!
-
This is getting really bad.
I dont know my opinion on the role of SR staff in this.
They could get involved in some way, either put out a warning or remind everyone what going out of escrow can do...
But on the one hand, they provide us with ESCROW, they give us a forum, there is NO reason ANYONE should EVER be scammed if they use these tools correctly, so you would think its not really their problem if people take such a risk.
Anyway, I feel your pain twice as much because I wanted to order a hundred shivas and it pains me to see the list of FE's grow for the hundred shivas listing...
-
I ordered 1g of speed on October 5 Still nothing received in normal time I receives my order in 2/3 days. This is the first time I had to FE.
I told him to send a mp yesterday but still no answer.
-
I still didnt get my gram to Ireland shipped 12 days ago, scammer or selective scammer for sure, im a bigger clown for FE'ing.
-
I still didnt get my gram to Ireland shipped 12 days ago, scammer or selective scammer for sure, im a bigger clown for FE'ing.
I'm also in Ireland. Shipped on Saturday. Had to FE I didn't think much of it... because I only ordered a gram but this thread is making me a little paranoid. In fact I now have ordered from 3 diff other vendors just to make sure I get some damn speed.
-
Everyone has to FE at first but if you got good spends you should NEVER FE!
That said, not ordered from the FireUK, so could not say what is happening.
Best to buy small, I learnt that and at least now I can stay in escrow within reason!
If I ordered a kilo of hash, I don't think I'd get escrow.
:)
-
Best to buy small, I learnt that and at least now I can stay in escrow within reason!
I agree, but thats what is so unusual about MRFireUks FE policy; it dosnt matter how good your stats are, you still have to FE.
I have over 225BTC spent with 0%Refund and I couldnt even get to stav in escrow over 10BTC worth of acid.
-
i ordered 5g of mdma 30 days ago still haven't recieved anything. about a week ago he offered a 60% refund and i told him i didn't want to stuff up my stats so i would wait. this week i ask for 100% after reading the recent posts. he says "Hey mate,
I've just read your new resolution .. I'd agree to that but if I accept that resolution you will mess up your stats.
What you have to do is finalize the order without using the resolution center and then I can just transfer the refund into your account.
Cheers" he says this in a message to my inbox too not in the resolution centre messages. its all a little too dodgy for me. i'm thinking i'll let the silkroad staff sort this out after seeing all the facts.
-
i ordered 5g of mdma 30 days ago still haven't recieved anything. about a week ago he offered a 60% refund and i told him i didn't want to stuff up my stats so i would wait. this week i ask for 100% after reading the recent posts. he says "Hey mate,
I've just read your new resolution .. I'd agree to that but if I accept that resolution you will mess up your stats.
What you have to do is finalize the order without using the resolution center and then I can just transfer the refund into your account.
Cheers" he says this in a message to my inbox too not in the resolution centre messages. its all a little too dodgy for me. i'm thinking i'll let the silkroad staff sort this out after seeing all the facts.
you tell him if he wants to do you a favour he can transfer the refund first, then you finalize. if you don't finalize SR staff will be able to see the refund.
if you release funds, you won't be getting any money back - I learned that the hard way along with others in this thread.
-
yeah i saw that he had ripped a few people off, thats why i won't be finalizing. i have had a 100% refund before because the silkroad staff gave it too me and it didn't affect my stats at all. it was from a seller that went rogue on alot of people though.
-
i ordered 5g of mdma 30 days ago still haven't recieved anything. about a week ago he offered a 60% refund and i told him i didn't want to stuff up my stats so i would wait. this week i ask for 100% after reading the recent posts. he says "Hey mate,
I've just read your new resolution .. I'd agree to that but if I accept that resolution you will mess up your stats.
What you have to do is finalize the order without using the resolution center and then I can just transfer the refund into your account.
Cheers" he says this in a message to my inbox too not in the resolution centre messages. its all a little too dodgy for me. i'm thinking i'll let the silkroad staff sort this out after seeing all the facts.
Jesus Christ, a couple have fallen for this crap already, I am happy you have more sense!
How long till be can update the title of this thread to "MrFireUk - Gone rogue"?
-
Ok it is evident that this guy has turned scammer, people are still buying and FE'ing its shamefull, can the powers of SR do anything? like pause or hold his accout till things clear up??
He hasnt replied to one e mail from me and ive no product, same as everyone, its bullshit.
-
For the record I ordered 25g MDMA about two weeks ago and received about one week ago, to the western USA.
He might be selectively scamming or just running behind. It's hard for me to tell at this point but since my experience was still good I'm giving 5/5. As mentioned before those who FE should consider giving less than 5 out of 5 feedback until they have received their stuff. Otherwise his feedback stays high and more people order from him = more problems for everyone.
-
For the record I ordered 25g MDMA about two weeks ago and received about one week ago, to the western USA.
Did you FE? If so, thats reassuring.
-
For the record I ordered 25g MDMA about two weeks ago and received about one week ago, to the western USA.
Did you FE? If so, thats reassuring.
-
For the record I ordered 25g MDMA about two weeks ago and received about one week ago, to the western USA.
Did you FE? If so, thats reassuring.
Yes I did. I didn't have the necessary transaction count to do business with MrFireUK otherwise. It was my 2nd transaction with him (the first I think was 10g MDMA about a month ago).
Hope this helps.
-
I FE'd on an 200$ order two weeks ago, which was marked as in transit 11 days ago. I had to FE cause I hadn't the necessary count of transactions with MrFireUK.
Still didn't receive anything. Wrote him a message 3 days ago, he didn't even read it.
Hope that SR will put a pause on him, until things clear up. How long do we have to wait, so it seems clear that he's gone rogue?
I don't understand why people still tend to give a 5/5 rating, when their feedback is "Didn't receive anything, no answers to my messages since 3 days"...
-
I FE'd on an 200$ order two weeks ago, which was marked as in transit 11 days ago. I had to FE cause I hadn't the necessary count of transactions with MrFireUK.
Still didn't receive anything. Wrote him a message 3 days ago, he didn't even read it.
Hope that SR will put a pause on him, until things clear up. How long do we have to wait, so it seems clear that he's gone rogue?
I don't understand why people still tend to give a 5/5 rating, when their feedback is "Didn't receive anything, no answers to my messages since 3 days"...
yeah that's always annoyed me. people who do that ruin the whole feedback system. If you post 5/5 for a transaction where the product didn't come (and especially if you did not get a full refund) then how are other buyers going to learn from your experience?
Also the higher the ratings are on average the easier it is to make a dent in them with shill accounts. Took me a while on SR to learn that below 95 was a bad rating.
-
I have never ordered from him but now that i look his vending privileges are removed. So good call OP. He probably made off with a lot of money. this is another lesson never to FE. idk how many more of these instances people will need to understand this concept.
-
Removed from SR-staff or is it possible for vendors to delete their own account?
-
I have never ordered from him but now that i look his vending privileges are removed. So good call OP. He probably made off with a lot of money. this is another lesson never to FE. idk how many more of these instances people will need to understand this concept.
For sure is, alot of vendors do FE though.. But yeah is account is a regular member now,
-
Removed from SR-staff or is it possible for vendors to delete their own account?
I contacted SR Support! And today SR Support wrote! MrFireUK Account is now Suspended. I stop him!
But this Son of Bitch steal 735 $ from me!!!!
-
So MrFireUKs vendor account is DOWN.
Thats nine gut feelings of mine, nine scamming bastards.
I am deeply sorry to all those who have lost money on larger orders. I myself was almost tempted into FE'ing for a sheet of Shivas and some other items, so I am glad I didnt learn this lesson the hard way.
In the unlikely event he is not fully scamming, we can at least say he has either had a massive drop in shipping success/customer refunds or is selectively scamming.
I guess if lots and lots of orders come through in the next couple of weeks then he could have it unblocked? Seems unlikely though, I spotted FEs for ounces of weed and sheets of acid stretching back two weeks.
-
just to add input into the conversation.
I ordered 2 pkgs off MRFireUk about 20 days ago.
I FE because im a new buyer.
I received both packages after 12 days and 15 days in Australia (so about a week ago i received)
..
I feel for yous who have lost money but i felt obliged to tell of my dealings with this guy. as being successful.
I have noticed tho that his account has gone so this is a bit odd...
-
Shit! >:(
Im angry about myself because i did not hear to my bad feeling regarding this guy. His business with the pure speed was too good to be true. :-\
-
mfer got away wit $50, whack!
-
So you can 'say that my 22BTC not see them again no more.?
-
I would like to note that 30 days ago I placed a 10g mdma order with him and sent him a PM saying I would FE and he canceld my order cuz he was out of product. Not standing up for him but he could have easily scammed me and didnt
-
My response to that would be.
1.) The decision to turn scammer may have come quickly (ie, found out he couldn't restock)
2.) You would want to scam as many as you can, so you say you dont have product, or keep business as usual, drum up some interest then "Oh he has restocked! Lets all order!" occurs, THEN you go rogue.
-
Hi,
strange shit going on here.
But all i can say is i recieved my order from him last wednesday, it took a while to arrive (7 days domestic) but it arrived safe.
I ordered 25gs of his weed and the quality was good too, there is nothing bad i can say about him with my experience. It the first time i bought from him, so i had to FE.
Other people have other experiences with him, so there has to be a reason why he is gone now.
-
I always wonder why some vendors turn rogue. I suspect that initially it's because they can't keep up with the increase in orders, then the shipping falls behind and after that they cannot seemingly recover. The vendor's reluctance to address the problem at an early stage is what sets the ball rolling. You would think that they could just withdraw their listings, giving them time to catch up with the backlog, and relist their products when they're able to cope.
I feel for the guys who've been bolted up.
-
I guess my speed isn't coming then. It's only $50 or so but that's shitty. It was money I got back after another vendor fucked up too. So my stats took a hit on a no show, then lost the cash again too.
I'm beginning to lose faith in all the vendors here as a whole. So much fucking scamming going on lately.
Fuck you MrFire!
-
I always wonder why some vendors turn rogue. I suspect that initially it's because they can't keep up with the increase in orders, then the shipping falls behind and after that they cannot seemingly recover. The vendor's reluctance to address the problem at an early stage is what sets the ball rolling. You would think that they could just withdraw their listings, giving them time to catch up with the backlog, and relist their products when they're able to cope.
I can't imagine that if you wanted to stay in business and not plan to rip people off, that you wouldn't take exactly those measures if you felt overwhelmed.
When I saw he was now requiring FE, I pretty much figured he realized that people here are in general too trusting and would fall for it.
Not to say I haven't been ripped off by a seller here while in escrow, but I've been ripped off more badly by FE...
-
It definitely seems to be a pattern and this should be a word of warning to new users.
1.) User becomes a vendor
2.) Vendor typically has to do a good job in the beginning in order to ensure more business.
3.) Vendor orders start to rise and reputation stays high. This is the period where you typically want to order, I believe.
4.) Vendors orders continue to rise, and when you look on their page you start wondering whether a vendor can really keep up.
5.) Vendor starts requiring people to FE and continues to take orders seemingly as fast as they can receive them.
6.) Reception of packages starts to become spotty while orders continue at breakneck speed.
7.) Reception becomes poor and vendor disappears.
In all honesty you can simplify it to like 4 steps. The big step is when they start to require FE. I have narrowly missed 3 big problems (sesampino, SuperTrips, and now MrFireUK), and in all 3 instances the FE coupled with no real recent reviews (because they're requiring everyone to FE) is a big red flag. Luckily now I will have about 10 transactions so I can start skirting the FE requirements.
-
I wanted to qoute a statement from a new user on the official mrFire thread:
Serion
Newbie
*
Posts: 2
Karma: +0/-0
View Profile
Email
Personal Message (Offline)
Re: MrFireUK feedback thread
« Reply #820 on: Today at 05:38 PM »
Quote
He's always been good to me. Maybe if you crackhead addicts stopped complaining about the quality and treating him awfully, just so you could get a refund none of this would have happened.
I find it hard to believe someone who wrote me messages like he did would turn around and dick y'all. He was practically a penpal.
--- make yourself your own opinion abut this guys---
-
Why do people FE?
Seriously, is not a good idea...
-
Why do people FE?
Seriously, is not a good idea...
Especially with coke and a vendor who was 'new' really.
Going FE on a gram or two of hash is ok - but almost 20 btc for a gram of so called 'almost pure HCL'.
I feel for those who lost, I think everyone who spends a few hundred btc has a scanm story or four!
Never FE on anything pricey.
Try to get your stats up buying small.
BBB pps
-
Why do people FE?
Seriously, is not a good idea...
....I feel for those who lost, I think everyone who spends a few hundred btc has a scanm story or four!
BBB pps
you are so right buddy... at least all the guys being scammed by FUK got a lesson learned. and they will never FE again for the good of the Road, this will keep scammers away from here for the long period.
But I just cannot stop to quote this motherfucker Serion, its because of people like him , that think like dumbasses that scammers come over here , read this :
Serion
Newbie
*
Posts: 2
Karma: +0/-0
View Profile
Email
Personal Message (Offline)
Re: MrFireUK feedback thread
« Reply #820 on: Today at 05:38 PM »
Quote
He's always been good to me. Maybe if you crackhead addicts stopped complaining about the quality and treating him awfully, just so you could get a refund none of this would have happened.
I find it hard to believe someone who wrote me messages like he did would turn around and dick y'all. He was practically a penpal.
-
Has SR got anything in place to stop this guy starting up a new account and doing this again?
And i feel for all those who got scammed , ive been scammed but not on here and only £50. It really got to me and not because of the money but i felt how could i be so stupid. I had done previous deals with this guy before but afterwards i realised i should of noticed he was to eager and i could of avoided it.. dumb ass ..
Funny story - First time i got scammed for something a friends mate wanted a draw , went over to the car handed him the draw and he sped off !!
lucky it werent an ounce ;D....
-
Mr fire refunded me 100% but it's completely fucked my stats. My refund rate is 24% one refund from 13 transactions and it's 24% how is this possible.
-
Mr fire refunded me 100% but it's completely fucked my stats. My refund rate is 24% one refund from 13 transactions and it's 24% how is this possible.
MrFireUK Refund you toady?
-
Has SR got anything in place to stop this guy starting up a new account and doing this again?
And i feel for all those who got scammed , ive been scammed but not on here and only £50. It really got to me and not because of the money but i felt how could i be so stupid. I had done previous deals with this guy before but afterwards i realised i should of noticed he was to eager and i could of avoided it.. dumb ass ..
Funny story - First time i got scammed for something a friends mate wanted a draw , went over to the car handed him the draw and he sped off !!
lucky it werent an ounce ;D....
SR isn't going to do anything about it, it's up the buyers to always keep up to date with the latest happenings. If buyers constantly watch for warnings signs and do not FE, they won't ever have to worry about getting scammed.
If buyers here look through all the past threads regarding vendors who have ended up turning to scamming buyers or other shady things, they'll notice that there's always warning signs before it happens. You just have to use good judgement when purchasing drugs on SR and never hand over BTC until you have thoroughly researched who you're buying from and never FE unless you're willing to take the chance of losing your money.
-
it was painfully obvious too me that he was a scammer
-
I'm not MrFire, Rentner, stop being ridiculous. I'm sorry you all got shafted, I really am. Now I have to find a new vendor, something I for one am really displeased about what with speed quality being what it is. I'm just saying myself and all my friends that ordered from him and myself were all treated good and fast.
I made the penpal joke in reference to the long messages I wrote to him and the long replies I received, joking about 'customers' and how they can make unreasonable demands / be unreasonable. Its easy for customers to write something bad and rarely praise someone when they get excellent service resulting in an unbalanced reputation. This was in response to inquiring about the whole quality / scam rumors that happened a while back.
It was a joke. We wern't penpals.
-
I'm not MrFire, Rentner, stop being ridiculous. I'm sorry you all got shafted, I really am. Now I have to find a new vendor, something I for one am really displeased about what with speed quality being what it is. I'm just saying myself and all my friends that ordered from him and myself were all treated good and fast.
I made the penpal joke in reference to the long messages I wrote to him and the long replies I received, joking about 'customers' and how they can make unreasonable demands / be unreasonable. Its easy for customers to write something bad and rarely praise someone when they get excellent service resulting in an unbalanced reputation. This was in response to inquiring about the whole quality / scam rumors that happened a while back.
It was a joke. We wern't penpals.
this is a real speed vendor, not the shit FUK was selling... http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/d186a7affd
-
Mr fire refunded me 100% but it's completely fucked my stats. My refund rate is 24% one refund from 13 transactions and it's 24% how is this possible.
MrFireUK Refund you toady?
not sure if it was today or yesterday.
-
Has SR got anything in place to stop this guy starting up a new account and doing this again?
And i feel for all those who got scammed , ive been scammed but not on here and only £50. It really got to me and not because of the money but i felt how could i be so stupid. I had done previous deals with this guy before but afterwards i realised i should of noticed he was to eager and i could of avoided it.. dumb ass ..
Funny story - First time i got scammed for something a friends mate wanted a draw , went over to the car handed him the draw and he sped off !!
lucky it werent an ounce ;D....
SR isn't going to do anything about it, it's up the buyers to always keep up to date with the latest happenings. If buyers constantly watch for warnings signs and do not FE, they won't ever have to worry about getting scammed.
If buyers here look through all the past threads regarding vendors who have ended up turning to scamming buyers or other shady things, they'll notice that there's always warning signs before it happens. You just have to use good judgement when purchasing drugs on SR and never hand over BTC until you have thoroughly researched who you're buying from and never FE unless you're willing to take the chance of losing your money.
Quote made me lol. Anyone notice he is still VERY active selling all his goods on BMR market? Probably going to do a massive scam on the members over there also.
-
damn... so he's gone! >:( first time i got scammed (12btc)! was blended by his good reputation ::)... my fault i finalized early -> never again!
shame on you MrFireUK!
-
After tony76 I will never f/e again.. he burned me for about half of my total spent. I understand why vendors want people to f/e because they need to keep up with stock sometimes.. but I would rather wait for a vendor to restock then f/e ever again. Let's go escrow!
-
YEA FUCK FE!!!!!!!!!!
-
So any other speed vendors out there that offer tracking with their shipping?
-
so i bought a sheet of his acid but didn't finalize even though it was moved in transit. he had promised to cancel the order but never did. now that he's suspended, what happens with my money? i can show the log of PM's showing that he said that he has not shipped it out and that he was going to cancel the order.
-
I don't believe he will stay banned. Or he will reincarnate, he already has like 100 accounts anyway.
His Noriega-stunt with speed didn't get him banned(!), so why would the shit he pulled now (I don't even know what more he can do).
LIKEWOAH! Almost 2 months ago I picked up on the bad vibes from this cunt.
You were late, I was 2 months faster. Didn't do me any good. I am sure he's full of the ingredients of his own speed for almost 4 months. The proof is available in the forums to anyone who cares to look for it. Tired of trying to convince fanboys, they deserve it. If you FE because the vendor is a nice guy, you also deserve it. Tired of the argument "I didn't get scammed, so he's not a scammer", I actually hope some of these guys lost money, just enough that it hurts, so they learn their lesson. Highly doubt it though.
-
Why do people FE?
Seriously, is not a good idea...
It's drugs man, I think most people just want their fix. You "FE" in real life deals anyway, lol.
I've even gotten screwed by two big & "trusted" sellers here who selectively scammed me...and I consider myself to be mostly scam proof. One required FE, one didn't. Lucky I got a 50% refund from the escrow one, the FE one doesn't even reply to messages.
-
I will definitely dont FE in future!
If a seller requires FE, he is not the right for me! Better pay a little bit more to a reputable seller!
I hope that many others also think so now!
-
Tip 1 : Never spend more than you can afford to lose. Want more, buy in small chunks.
Tip 2 : If a vendor suddenly starts demanding FE, do not buy anything from them.
-
I definitely don't like hearing about people being scammed - it's just an arse thing to do.
While people feel that they have been ripped off (by any vendor) I will never go so far as to name one as a scammer.
I have been ripped off, by another vendor, I FE'd, got the product but it was fake - not cut, fake. I got a 50% refund. That's good, not great, but better than the 0% I would get IRL.
I *thought* I got ripped off by another vendor, yes, FE'd early again, Vendor account was disabled by SR due to many users reporting them as scammer (fair enough). 28 days after I placed the order, after he already had my money, after he already had his account suspended, the order arrived, and it was good. Slightly underweight, but more importantly, good! It was also post marked only about a week earlier, so still when his vending account was inactive. He offered to resend the entire order for free as it was underweight but I said no (it wasn't much missing) - give and take and all that. His account is back up now.
I have made 5 orders with Mr Fire, and also chatted with him a fair bit in messages. I ALWAYS FE'd for him. He has told me I do not have to FE for any further orders I make, but I would. My orders always arrived within 3 days, were always over weight, in fact often had fair amount put in for free. He processed one order when I didn't have enough BTC for postage as well, and I repaid him when I did. On more than 1 occasion he has offered me free/extra product. Again, I have not accepted, as I do try to give a little take a little. I also don't send back any extra I have gotten from other vendors!
So in the interest of telling all sides of the story - He has always been open, responsive, and honest in our dealings, but that is my experience with him. I feel both sides should be shared, both negative and positive, with any vendor.
I really do hope it works out for everyone who has placed orders - like my situation with the other vendor did.
-
MrFire was very pleasant to deal with in the early days, shame he had to go out like this.
-
if I had previously bought from MrFire, ie with in the last few weeks, and I now know that it hasn't arrived, (assuming I've been scammed) is it possible to get my refund rate fixed, because it is now known that he is a scammer?? I don't care about the fact I only got a 50% refund, that is all in the risk, but fixing the refund rate would be nice....
Ta...
-
i had a custom order of 15grams of mdma made for me 580usd total
Wednesday will take it 14 days that i have been waiting for my product to arrive, should i expect that i have been scammed too? we were writing back and forth pretty frequently this stinks
does SR or anyone offer any sort of refund for situations like this?
-
MrFireUK Hey, your order has been forwarded to my mate and is ready to be dispatched.
According to my new policies I'm just waiting for you to finalize it now. It has just been marked in transit.
Cheers
16 days ago
costarico816 Hello as instructed i have finalized early do you have an estimate of how long it will tak to be delivered
16 days ago
MrFireUK Hey mate, will be dispatched tomorrow morning , you can find average shipping times to different countries on my vendor page.
Cheers
14 days ago
-
i had a custom order of 15grams of mdma made for me 580usd total
Wednesday will take it 14 days that i have been waiting for my product to arrive, should i expect that i have been scammed too? we were writing back and forth pretty frequently this stinks
does SR or anyone offer any sort of refund for situations like this?
If you FE'ed then I am sorry to say you have been scammed and SR cannot help.
If you are in ESCROW make sure you resolve before auto-finalizing.
-
i had a custom order of 15grams of mdma made for me 580usd total
Wednesday will take it 14 days that i have been waiting for my product to arrive, should i expect that i have been scammed too? we were writing back and forth pretty frequently this stinks
does SR or anyone offer any sort of refund for situations like this?
scammed.. he talked back n forth with everyone he scammed. that's how he was able to scam so many people.
or maybe he just died from an overdose, but that's unlikely since he was already cutting n scamming with his speed...
-
yep, got scammed too... was mislead by his good reputations to FE.. not so much money, but it hurts cause i'm a little short this days anyways.
-
Has anyone received an order that was supposedly shipping in the last few weeks? Like the post above, mine was confirmed as forwarded to his 'mate'.
-
scammed too, thankfully for only a small amount of money. a cheap lesson for me i suppose.
-
heh, I'm glad I saw this one coming.
maybe a list of threads like this one should be PM'ed to new SR users so they learn to recognize the scam vendor pattern:
1. Build reputation
2. Say you get scammed a lot and everyone has to FE
3. ?????
4. Profit!
FE doesn't even stop scammers, it achieves the opposite because if the vendor refunds someone who FE'd it won't show in his stats...
-
My resolution of 50% refund went through on the 8th and he was suspended on the 11th which fucked my stats.
-
Scammed too.. Fuck SR is setup stupid. Why the hell wouldn't they have the front page of this place a list of possible scammers? Nope, instead they just dick around and have listings in some back corner forum where no new buyer is going to look.
drnarco = blatant scammer, listing is still up.
I'm starting to think this place is a waste of bloody time.
-
Scammed too.. Fuck SR is setup stupid. Why the hell wouldn't they have the front page of this place a list of possible scammers? Nope, instead they just dick around and have listings in some back corner forum where no new buyer is going to look.
drnarco = blatant scammer, listing is still up.
I'm starting to think this place is a waste of bloody time.
Do some research on the forums before you go buying from people and NEVER FE no matter what and you won't get scammed
-
heh, I'm glad I saw this one coming.
maybe a list of threads like this one should be PM'ed to new SR users so they learn to recognize the scam vendor pattern:
1. Build reputation
2. Say you get scammed a lot and everyone has to FE
3. ?????
4. Profit!
FE doesn't even stop scammers, it achieves the opposite because if the vendor refunds someone who FE'd it won't show in his stats...
this. this. this. Well observed sir!
Only thing that could be added is that SR receives a not so small transaction fee, for every order you finalize. MrFireUK was good money for them. Small conflict of interest there. Although it could be that they have "enough" money by now and they start caring more about the folk who actually pays them, i.e. the customers.
FEing because the vendor is "nice" is one of the most naive things I have encountered on SR, those guys "deserve" it and hopefully learned their lesson.
-
Yea but, does ANYONE use BMR ;)
Also, could it just be ancient listings?
-
In what sense? SR is by far the most slick store on the deepweb I always thought.