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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: trc on October 09, 2012, 06:25 pm
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Just wondering are their many chemists here on the road that would be interested in high grade piperonal? I could supply around 1kg/month starting of and would max at around 5kg/month supply available.
Prices would be about $5000/kg and $800/100g.
Any other watched chems you guys want? I could also supply 8mg ephedrine pills great for shake and bake meth since you don't need to extract the ephedrine, prices for would start at $5/ 400mg bottle. I would also be able to provide really good packaging for chems like repackaging of ephedrine into other regular vitamin bottles and sending piperonal in "unopened" bottles of foot powder.
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The price of the Piperonal is too expensive by a long shot. $5000 a kilo is ridiculous prices.
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Just wondering are their many chemists here on the road that would be interested in high grade piperonal? I could supply around 1kg/month starting of and would max at around 5kg/month supply available.
Prices would be about $5000/kg and $800/100g.
Any other watched chems you guys want? I could also supply 8mg ephedrine pills great for shake and bake meth since you don't need to extract the ephedrine, prices for would start at $5/ 400mg bottle. I would also be able to provide really good packaging for chems like repackaging of ephedrine into other regular vitamin bottles and sending piperonal in "unopened" bottles of foot powder.
Your price piperonal is nothing short of insane, even if you made it 90% cheaper, it would still be too expensive.
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Just wondering are their many chemists here on the road that would be interested in high grade piperonal? I could supply around 1kg/month starting of and would max at around 5kg/month supply available.
Prices would be about $5000/kg and $800/100g.
Any other watched chems you guys want? I could also supply 8mg ephedrine pills great for shake and bake meth since you don't need to extract the ephedrine, prices for would start at $5/ 400mg bottle. I would also be able to provide really good packaging for chems like repackaging of ephedrine into other regular vitamin bottles and sending piperonal in "unopened" bottles of foot powder.
Your price piperonal is nothing short of insane, even if you made it 90% cheaper, it would still be too expensive.
Lol yeah I know right? What would be the point of buying it at that price? Makes making Mandy not commercially viable.
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Lol yeah I know right? What would be the point of buying it at that price? Makes making Mandy not commercially viable.
Spot on, if this was the true price, none of us would have experienced the joys of Mandy. Just out of question OP, how much would your Safrole be? And what makes your Piperonal so special to justify it's ridiculously high price?
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Lol yeah I know right? What would be the point of buying it at that price? Makes making Mandy not commercially viable.
Spot on, if this was the true price, none of us would have experienced the joys of Mandy. Just out of question OP, how much would your Safrole be? And what makes your Piperonal so special to justify it's ridiculously high price?
Lol yeah I'd be curious to hear this baring in mind I have a supplier so I know the prices for Safrole.
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Lol yeah I'd be curious to hear this baring in mind I have a supplier so I know the prices for Safrole.
I know the going rate too, so make your best offer OP, I await in anticipation! :)
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I most likely will not be selling Safrole, its hard to find small businesses that sells it, those sketchy chemical stores like "bobs super extreme lab supplies" (not a real business) that stay open for a few years catering to criminals usually don't have it in stock anymore its just the giant companies in Asia who work with LE so they don't get shut down. I am going crunch some numbers on piperonal yields chances are I will lower the price a lot. If any chemists are reading this could you tell me if this is accurate for a chemist with some experience, Piperonal -->nitroisosafrole 90% yield, nitrosafrole --> mdp2p 70% yield, mdp2p --> mda via Al/Hg reduction 80% yield (unwashed).
I also have plans on listing Acetic anhydride and Potassium permanganate price would be around $100/L for Acetic anhydride and $30/pound for potassium permanganate.
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Safrole is easy to get so long as it's in large quantities. You can get it direct from China.
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Very true lim, Ive always been to scared to order bulk I am really paranoid. When ordering chems I usually purchase small business type amounts $1000-$5000 worth of any given chemical. IMO the safest way of getting two figure amounts of chems in Canada is to get incorporated this is not a process I am very familiar with and it removes almost all anonymity.
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Very true lim, Ive always been to scared to order bulk I am really paranoid. When ordering chems I usually purchase small business type amounts $1000-$5000 worth of any given chemical. IMO the safest way of getting two figure amounts of chems in Canada is to get incorporated this is not a process I am very familiar with and it removes almost all anonymity.
It's actually very simple but it's a long process and ultimately it's much safer to import through these methods than without.
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By these methods do you mean the full large company setup, large commercial warehouse conducting legit business as well as illegal, friends with many people in the business, employ people to travel to Asia and make to make arrangements for shipping and payments ect, and a have a smart lawyer and accountant that have experience in making fraudulent businesses look just like a legit one.
Feel free not to answer the above, I know its kinda sensitive info you may not want to let everyone on the forum know about.
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By these methods do you mean the full large company setup, large commercial warehouse conducting legit business as well as illegal, friends with many people in the business, employ people to travel to Asia and make to make arrangements for shipping and payments ect, and a have a smart lawyer and accountant that have experience in making fraudulent businesses look just like a legit one.
Feel free not to answer the above, I know its kinda sensitive info you may not want to let everyone on the forum know about.
No I don't mind at all. :) For starters you don't need to actually have all these things you just need to simulate them on paper so you can get contracts and client accounts with bona fide distributors of the top companies like Sigma Ald etc. As long as you can simulate it and provide a company number/VAT number etc most of them are fine and you just build a relationship with them by orders smaller amounts and scaling up to larger ones and most of the time once you have a working relationship you can get them to open the doors to other things by just giving them legit reasons. You don't need a commercial warehouse either, just a rented unit for deliveries and you don't need to have people employed at all, wtf do the chemical companies you are buying from care about your work force? That's nothing to do with them. The lawyer and accountant are standard necessities to have if you are doing this anyway, if you don't then you are coming to a shoot out with a knife.
It's not an easy thing, I'm not saying that at all but it's not as complex as people imagine it to be.
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Thanks for the info its very much appreciated. Setting all this stuff up will make a great summer project some time down the road.
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Thanks for the info its very much appreciated. Setting all this stuff up will make a great summer project some time down the road.
No worries. A lot of this stuff is about having balls rather than being bona fide, you don't need to be a legit chemical company to procure these chemicals. :)
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Would ordering with a prepaid visa and having it shipped to a large PO box be a good idea or are prepaids a red flag? I Would be able to address the PO box as if it is small commercial space, IE suite 123 or room 123.
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If I were you I would do it via direct cash payments to their accounts.
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I know this is a little off topic, but I have a small amount of things I'm wondering about the value of. Any opinions would be appreciated. Apologies for intruding here, not terribly off topic I promise.
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