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Title: Pressing Pills - advice/help?
Post by: Hiding on July 01, 2012, 03:12 am
Hey guys and ladies,

I am currently trying to press tablets on a small scale. Nothing fancy and not using fancy equipment but I'm also not having much luck so I'm looking for advice from anyone who has done it, low end or not. Any advice will be considered and all will be appreciated. This is not an mdma/mda/Ecstasy press. It's just another RC I want to press into tablets for my friend's bday. We talked about how one day the 2c fun would come to an end and after reading the DEA's pending schedule for 2c's, I wanted to have this done for him before his bday but around there would be ok too.

Here's what I've tried:
Purchased a cheap but surprisingly decent "pollen press". The diameter is too large for my liking but I can maybe figure out a taper method on my own. Any suggestions are welcome here also.
I'm using MicroCrystalline Cellulose as a binding agent. I'm using magnesium stearate as the releasing agent. I have tried some fd&c powder food dye and also without it.

Ratios = MCC:MS:Color
2:0.4:2
2:0.4:1
2:0.4:0
2:0.5:0.5
4:0.7:0.5

It does press together but it breaks pretty easy. Even touching it will rub off some of the powder onto my hands and a simple poke would crack it into 4-7 pieces. I know part of this is because the thickness is not too large. I have tried 1/8th thickness and maybe 1/4 or 1/3 as the thickest but they all (pretty much) break in the same way with a poke.

Am I missing something, is it just the press, combination of things?

Sorry if this is the wrong section for this question, I didn't really know where to put it.

Thanks for any help
Title: Re: Pressing Pills - advice/help?
Post by: BlarghRawr on July 01, 2012, 10:23 am
I'm mostly just following this thread because I'm planning to do the same with some 4-aco-dmt soon as I get it.

But from googling MicroCrystalline Cellulose for a quick/lazy research, my only suggestion is that... maybe you're not using enough pressure?

If tapping a hammer on your press to try and make it bind harder is an option, go ahead. But again, I only did lazy research and I have no practical experience in this subject.
Title: Re: Pressing Pills - advice/help?
Post by: Hiding on July 01, 2012, 11:57 am
I'm mostly just following this thread because I'm planning to do the same with some 4-aco-dmt soon as I get it.

But from googling MicroCrystalline Cellulose for a quick/lazy research, my only suggestion is that... maybe you're not using enough pressure?

If tapping a hammer on your press to try and make it bind harder is an option, go ahead. But again, I only did lazy research and I have no practical experience in this subject.
Thanks for the input. I will also be making some 4-aco tabs. I have some dpt and 2c-i around as well.

It's possible I'm not using enough pressure, I am using a hand held press so a hammer is not really an option or I'll destroy the threads.
Title: Re: Pressing Pills - advice/help?
Post by: Ballzinator on July 01, 2012, 12:09 pm
You should probably just use cellulose/gelatine capsules or get a proper press.
Title: Re: Pressing Pills - advice/help?
Post by: Hiding on July 01, 2012, 12:36 pm
I have been using capsules and it has always worked fine.

This is just something I wanted to do for a good friend after we talked about it a while back. As much as I like doing cool things, I'm not likely to invest 100s into pressing a few pills. Do you have any personal suggestion on a real press?

I have about $60 invested into all the supplies as it sits, which I can throw away if no solutions come up and not feel bad about. But, I'd rather figure it out while I have the binder and chemicals.