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Title: Private Sub-Forum for Heroin Buyers
Post by: phubaiblues on June 03, 2012, 03:39 am
We really need this.  Often it is just too hard to talk about our heroin vendors without fear of reprisals.  It's happened to me already, where we can be boycotted by vendors if our criticism is negative.  And often even other buyers feel compelled to come to the aid of vendors, feeling that *any* criticism is negative. 

Anybody who doubts this should do what I did, and read back thru the Tony76 thread.  Or thjust read thru the heroin forum up to date--it becomes obvious that unless feedback is positive, it is often trashed by other buyers.  And this is not the first time.  I've been on here pretty much from jump street, and there was an earlier vendor--Italian Pilot--who was able to accomplish the same thing, which is to get the other buyers to defend him from criticism.  Scammers have certain patterns they seem to follow, and on of them is to find ways to eliminate criticism.

I often get pms from other buyers, asking about the weight, the quality, and the shipping methods, and we end up discussing it just one to one, but that isn't effective, and it doesn't help the other buyers. 

And anybody who's been on the heroin thread knows it happens time and time again.

There are some obvious obstacles.  The first one is how to avoid 'shills,' and even fly by night buyers, that come and just lie, cause troubles....  This could be solved--to an extent--buy having a fee to join.  Perhaps a donation to a moderator's fund?  They get little enough as it is, so perhaps if we charged, say 2-5 btc to join, and that could go to moderators in exchange for allowing us a 'members only' heroin buyers forum.

We shouldn't allow vendors on there....I know, I know, they but too, but it really defeats the purpose, even tho we'd depend a bit on their 'honor' of not joining under a fake name, but I don't sign up under a fake vendor's name to sneak into their private forums.

I know there'd be a whole lot of details to iron our, but I would hope we could do something within Silk Road itself.  I know there's nothing to keep us from settting up one outside of SR, but I fear it would not have enough buyers to make it worthwhile, while if it were right here it would help, and if it were financed with a small donation perhaps the mods would be in favor.

Heroin thread shows just how much troubles we've had with  ripoffs and no shows and vendors who just don't want to answer messages....what do you'all think?
Title: Re: Private Sub-Forum for Heroin Buyers
Post by: Joeyjojojr on June 03, 2012, 04:09 am
Im interested and would be willing to pay for access as well. I think that anyone who wants to join should at the very least have a rep on the H forums and not just be a newb who has the btc. Maybe we can set up some requirements, such as minimum of 100 legitimate posts (not just song lyrics or other bs), and something like at least 5 product reviews on the H forum or on H vendor review threads. I think this is a really good idea, and hope to be a part of it if it goes through. Thanks.
Title: Re: Private Sub-Forum for Heroin Buyers
Post by: greenwood on June 03, 2012, 05:08 am
I would do this too.
Title: Re: Private Sub-Forum for Heroin Buyers
Post by: lowberry on June 03, 2012, 05:50 am
We really need this.  Often it is just too hard to talk about our heroin vendors without fear of reprisals.  It's happened to me already, where we can be boycotted by vendors if our criticism is negative.  And often even other buyers feel compelled to come to the aid of vendors, feeling that *any* criticism is negative. 

Anybody who doubts this should do what I did, and read back thru the Tony76 thread.  Or thjust read thru the heroin forum up to date--it becomes obvious that unless feedback is positive, it is often trashed by other buyers.  And this is not the first time.  I've been on here pretty much from jump street, and there was an earlier vendor--Italian Pilot--who was able to accomplish the same thing, which is to get the other buyers to defend him from criticism.  Scammers have certain patterns they seem to follow, and on of them is to find ways to eliminate criticism.

I often get pms from other buyers, asking about the weight, the quality, and the shipping methods, and we end up discussing it just one to one, but that isn't effective, and it doesn't help the other buyers. 

And anybody who's been on the heroin thread knows it happens time and time again.

There are some obvious obstacles.  The first one is how to avoid 'shills,' and even fly by night buyers, that come and just lie, cause troubles....  This could be solved--to an extent--buy having a fee to join.  Perhaps a donation to a moderator's fund?  They get little enough as it is, so perhaps if we charged, say 2-5 btc to join, and that could go to moderators in exchange for allowing us a 'members only' heroin buyers forum.

We shouldn't allow vendors on there....I know, I know, they but too, but it really defeats the purpose, even tho we'd depend a bit on their 'honor' of not joining under a fake name, but I don't sign up under a fake vendor's name to sneak into their private forums.

I know there'd be a whole lot of details to iron our, but I would hope we could do something within Silk Road itself.  I know there's nothing to keep us from settting up one outside of SR, but I fear it would not have enough buyers to make it worthwhile, while if it were right here it would help, and if it were financed with a small donation perhaps the mods would be in favor.

Heroin thread shows just how much troubles we've had with  ripoffs and no shows and vendors who just don't want to answer messages....what do you'all think?

I agree, but only if there's a rule where you gotta have at least 100 posts to access the forum to weed out trolls. There should also be an option to post "invisibly" or anonymously.
Title: Re: Private Sub-Forum for Heroin Buyers
Post by: dapj on June 03, 2012, 01:39 pm
We really need this.  Often it is just too hard to talk about our heroin vendors without fear of reprisals.  It's happened to me already, where we can be boycotted by vendors if our criticism is negative.  And often even other buyers feel compelled to come to the aid of vendors, feeling that *any* criticism is negative. 

Anybody who doubts this should do what I did, and read back thru the Tony76 thread.  Or thjust read thru the heroin forum up to date--it becomes obvious that unless feedback is positive, it is often trashed by other buyers.  And this is not the first time.  I've been on here pretty much from jump street, and there was an earlier vendor--Italian Pilot--who was able to accomplish the same thing, which is to get the other buyers to defend him from criticism.  Scammers have certain patterns they seem to follow, and on of them is to find ways to eliminate criticism.

I often get pms from other buyers, asking about the weight, the quality, and the shipping methods, and we end up discussing it just one to one, but that isn't effective, and it doesn't help the other buyers. 

And anybody who's been on the heroin thread knows it happens time and time again.

There are some obvious obstacles.  The first one is how to avoid 'shills,' and even fly by night buyers, that come and just lie, cause troubles....  This could be solved--to an extent--buy having a fee to join.  Perhaps a donation to a moderator's fund?  They get little enough as it is, so perhaps if we charged, say 2-5 btc to join, and that could go to moderators in exchange for allowing us a 'members only' heroin buyers forum.

We shouldn't allow vendors on there....I know, I know, they but too, but it really defeats the purpose, even tho we'd depend a bit on their 'honor' of not joining under a fake name, but I don't sign up under a fake vendor's name to sneak into their private forums.

I know there'd be a whole lot of details to iron our, but I would hope we could do something within Silk Road itself.  I know there's nothing to keep us from settting up one outside of SR, but I fear it would not have enough buyers to make it worthwhile, while if it were right here it would help, and if it were financed with a small donation perhaps the mods would be in favor.

Heroin thread shows just how much troubles we've had with  ripoffs and no shows and vendors who just don't want to answer messages....what do you'all think?

Hello! :)
I'm from Belgium, so from the EU and i wanna ask first permission at the topic starter if i also can be here on the forum. I find this a great excellent idea that there is a topic for us (and maybe also for me) to be honest and open about our received Heroin orders. Why this strange question to have permission???...Well because i can only debate about the H vendors that are available to me in the EU or those that ship to EU. Many timers i read the H forum(s), minimum 2 times a day ;) (after my work during the week also) 8). I have always order Heroin...but always #3 because i am a smoker ( dragon chaser ;D). I have had experiences with : Noriega, C63amg, Adam420, AsghanApothecary (AA) and know Tuesday or so i expect my first order done by Psilocin (because higher price and had now the funds to order from him to  :)). I am also gonna try when i have enough funds again and when they restock....the black tar of TheCompany ;D. It will be my first experience with BTH so i'm wanna to try it at least 1 time in my life and also because you can smoke it :P. The badest H i ever had here were 2 kinds of the same vendor, AA >:(!! I don't shoot or snif i only smoke H for almost 10y now (8y because of times in rehab and prison and such). I had seen the so called famous Cheese Heroin and also that day they had listed Asian White B-Grade that you could smoke = not real china in my eyes. Oh well i had enough funds and also my own H stash at home so i was just curious. The China B-Grade was very bad...it even had like an amfetamine smell to it and when heated on foil it looked like when you gonna "Base" Cocaine. It had a very very bad taste so i took a rock of my own afghan H and i had to do 7 to 10 rails before some weird floaters where gone in my liquid dark brown drop. I thought that was bad but i was wrong...The Cheese H, that they claimed that it would take over the H marked by storm. REAL POISON THAT WAS IT >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(!!!!!!!!
They claime on the list that it is 45% heroin mixed with caffeine and then something else, because otherwise you could smoked it of course. They say in the listing that it's only for sniffing and not for smoking or shooting, they were so proud about the H mix that THEY have created. It was something special and i really had to try it because off all the 5/5's + it was some soft powder that almost don't sting in your nose, that is what they claimed also on the listing. My first small line of the Cheese : BURNED LIKE I HAD SNORTED PEPPER MIXED WITH TABASSCO >:( >:( >:( >:(!!!
The tears rolled down my eyes and also a hard punch inside my whole head!!. It was awful, bad, poison! I opend a topic about the Cheese Heroin of AfghanApothecary, just to see if i maybe had a bad mixed order or so but oooohhh no sir. An other member had responded to it within the first 30 min and the poor guy even had to puke and was sick after taking it :o :o. Then other replys and in 1 of them was a link to another topic about that vendor, about the Morphine Sulphate. Man man man man...djjeeezzz what a dangerous substances that AA sells. I stated that if a product is dangerous to our health, then SR must act and warn the vendor to stop vending self made substances...people are having all sorts off pain or are sick after taking the gear. WE ARE NOT RATS IN A LAB TEST FOR THEM!!! >:( What if someone dies?? Yeah some might say that this statement is to far but just imagine if they sell another self made mix dope and somebody gets an allergic reaction to it or a stroke...Yeah this is no joke! That is why i don't understand why they just don't sell there real dope because they have real brown H and Diazepam and other stuff. So why do they have to create something special?? Ok if it's something really good because they also claim they test the stuff before they list it...Don't believe it all! They will test there H #3 and benzo's but i doubt it if they test their self made dope. Because what i have had..i am 100% sure they didn't test some of their own made dope. I got a pm from AA and i still got it because it is such good evidence  off 1 big lie! He wrote me his excuse because he claimed that the new AA guy was kicked out because he stole money and did bad business, but strange enough his profile and some people are still taliking about the new AA, so what to believe??! I had said bye bye for ever and that is why i got the pm + he or she wasn't ashamed to say to try and buy an other product. But when asking for a compensation that an other member had asked then they answerd back like a bully. But like i said AA is a good vendor when he or she only sells dope that is legit and not try to mix stuff togheter and sell it as X.

So this was my first post. If i am not allowed then i will respect it :)
Great topic because 97% off my orders has been Heroin orders :P ;). So yes...i am almost a 100% heroin only costumer hehe :D :D. But i would also like to trie those 5 Dilaudids from No Genrx :)
Have a nice day all ;).
Greeettttzz
Title: Re: Private Sub-Forum for Heroin Buyers
Post by: TreyWingo104 on June 03, 2012, 03:14 pm
I think its a great idea, I'm pretty new to the H scene on SR, and pretty new to SR in general.  Definitely wouldn't expect admittance now, but I'm working towards having 5 H BUYS and I'll get there quickly.  I would pay the coin to get in, in the meantime I'll review what I've purchased so far in teh APPROPRIATE thread.  and dapj.....easy on the faces guy it kind of intense.  I usually boost your karma and enjoy reading through (most) of your posts as they are informative and interesting, but seriously, chill out with the expressions!
Title: Re: Private Sub-Forum for Heroin Buyers
Post by: dapj on June 03, 2012, 06:20 pm
I think its a great idea, I'm pretty new to the H scene on SR, and pretty new to SR in general.  Definitely wouldn't expect admittance now, but I'm working towards having 5 H BUYS and I'll get there quickly.  I would pay the coin to get in, in the meantime I'll review what I've purchased so far in teh APPROPRIATE thread.  and dapj.....easy on the faces guy it kind of intense.  I usually boost your karma and enjoy reading through (most) of your posts as they are informative and interesting, but seriously, chill out with the expressions!

You are not the one to tell me to go easy on the faces. I am only to tell my experience about those orders that i gave payed with my hard earned cash! Working all day and then getting such bad dope...i'll bet you also wouldn't like it to. And i even had more pleasant experienses with AA like i said. If you are now already complaining about the truth about my experience then....i don't think you gonna like this forum! This is just THE forum to post openly our expierences with H orders and you already are making a little drama about that i use to many faces? Dzjjeesss man...i think this topic will not be your place then, because HERE we can openly debate about our orders. And you giving me + Karma??? Why??? And also i know who give all the + karma's but i know the trolls have giving me bad karma because of my reply in the topic "This karma thing'. You gonna say to me i use to many faces??? That is just the sort of members that we wont have here! BECAUSE HERE EVERYBODY CAN EXPRESS THEMSELVES ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS WHEN ORDERS GONE GOOD OR BAD WITHOUT AN OTHER MEMBER TRYING TO PLAY THE BIG CHIEF!! I think when this forum is really gonna launch that you will see more harder talk then me. My review wasn't even that hard just the truth + the facts + go look to other treads about the Cheese and Morphine Sulphate...What are you going to say there to the members??? I am not mad at you or judging you...i just tell you that this is what this forum is for...real reviews without vendors try to take revenge on you or the butkissers of the vendors that also jump on you when you are not agree with them or just say that the stuff wasn't so good this time. But never say to me what i can or i can't do or say. I work hard on my job like other members to earn cash. The reason why i used to many faces for you was to show how i really felt. I hope that you don't gonna wine about such a small stupid thing in everyones posts, because here we are free to speak about our received H orders!
Ps : I am such an easy guy to talk with and i respect everybody, but when certain products are dangerous and self made and people are puking and are sick after taking it...then yeah i have to mention that! You see, special for you a reply without a face (smiley).
Greetttzz and have a nice day all (wink) hehe
Ow yeah and thx for the extra -1karma, you are gonna give people bad karma when they use to many faces or tell their experience??? Woooww i think you won't have much friends or gonna make them this way. I am an adult not a child, so i only give positive karma and i am not gonna give you bad karma like little kids would do on here.
Title: Re: Private Sub-Forum for Heroin Buyers
Post by: TreyWingo104 on June 03, 2012, 09:57 pm
I think its a great idea, I'm pretty new to the H scene on SR, and pretty new to SR in general.  Definitely wouldn't expect admittance now, but I'm working towards having 5 H BUYS and I'll get there quickly.  I would pay the coin to get in, in the meantime I'll review what I've purchased so far in teh APPROPRIATE thread.  and dapj.....easy on the faces guy it kind of intense.  I usually boost your karma and enjoy reading through (most) of your posts as they are informative and interesting, but seriously, chill out with the expressions!

You are not the one to tell me to go easy on the faces. I am only to tell my experience about those orders that i gave payed with my hard earned cash! Working all day and then getting such bad dope...i'll bet you also wouldn't like it to. And i even had more pleasant experienses with AA like i said. If you are now already complaining about the truth about my experience then....i don't think you gonna like this forum! This is just THE forum to post openly our expierences with H orders and you already are making a little drama about that i use to many faces? Dzjjeesss man...i think this topic will not be your place then, because HERE we can openly debate about our orders. And you giving me + Karma??? Why??? And also i know who give all the + karma's but i know the trolls have giving me bad karma because of my reply in the topic "This karma thing'. You gonna say to me i use to many faces??? That is just the sort of members that we wont have here! BECAUSE HERE EVERYBODY CAN EXPRESS THEMSELVES ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS WHEN ORDERS GONE GOOD OR BAD WITHOUT AN OTHER MEMBER TRYING TO PLAY THE BIG CHIEF!! I think when this forum is really gonna launch that you will see more harder talk then me. My review wasn't even that hard just the truth + the facts + go look to other treads about the Cheese and Morphine Sulphate...What are you going to say there to the members??? I am not mad at you or judging you...i just tell you that this is what this forum is for...real reviews without vendors try to take revenge on you or the butkissers of the vendors that also jump on you when you are not agree with them or just say that the stuff wasn't so good this time. But never say to me what i can or i can't do or say. I work hard on my job like other members to earn cash. The reason why i used to many faces for you was to show how i really felt. I hope that you don't gonna wine about such a small stupid thing in everyones posts, because here we are free to speak about our received H orders!
Ps : I am such an easy guy to talk with and i respect everybody, but when certain products are dangerous and self made and people are puking and are sick after taking it...then yeah i have to mention that! You see, special for you a reply without a face (smiley).
Greetttzz and have a nice day all (wink) hehe
Ow yeah and thx for the extra -1karma, you are gonna give people bad karma when they use to many faces or tell their experience??? Woooww i think you won't have much friends or gonna make them this way. I am an adult not a child, so i only give positive karma and i am not gonna give you bad karma like little kids would do on here.


Haha, oh man, facepalm**...  Like I said I find most of your posts informative......Definitely didn't mean to hurt your feelings.  Feel free to keep the smileys/frownies/sunglassies/etc. No harm no foul.
Title: Re: Private Sub-Forum for Heroin Buyers
Post by: netil8 on June 03, 2012, 10:09 pm
Guys, I don't follow the brown movements on here... it's best I click toward something else so I can't comment on what kind of quality the 'off the boat' or 'white Asian' is, this guys gear is always one grade higher than standard street gear. For example,  in the recent epic droubt he stopped selling rather than shift violin wax.

So this is just out of interest for someone else but does the U.K. need someone solid doing next day (royal mail permitting) gear?

THIS IS NOT ME MUM, but this dude is rock solid, old school and now a friend rather than a cash vacuum.

He was curious about SR, is it worth me making the link?  ???