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Title: GemStoneMarket - Vendor Review and Other Hilarious Jokes
Post by: moksha on July 10, 2013, 01:29 am
Are you looking to be sold drugs from a child?

Do you often lie awake at night thinking, I wish I had awful quality drugs to choke down?

Well look NO further! GemStoneMarket is here! And for the first time ever we'll be revealing how you too can be ridiculed for asking why he claims an impossibly high purity % on his MDMA!

Without further ado... If anyone feels they'd like to see the rest of the exchange they need not but ask.

Completely forgot to post this with the community, but I exchanged some PMs with the vendor "GemStoneMarket" a few weeks ago.

I was asking him how he managed to bend the laws of physics and synthesize 86% MDMA hcl (impossible), after being re-assured that he could back up his claims (at this stage I was simply asking he prove that 86% MDMA hcl is even possible, not his batch) which of course he can't, the conversation digressed to what I can only describe as child-like behavior on his part. Happy to post more of the messages but for now I'll give this magician a chance to prove his illusion.


GemStoneMarket(98)    Please bother someone else -_- I don't care if you're right, you can proceed to doodle suck bro? Vendor Supports on their way haha Im not worried, you seem it though. ;)

Give us your shit rating you lil sissy :P. I just like you threatening that because you seem to put so much behind your little group, I find it laughable that you believe you have power over an honest Vendor with a strong client-base or the Round Table lol. But at the end of the day, you're a little text box on the screen. :P

Bet you wish you were a Vendor? Hahahahahaha cry more :D. Jealousy reeks, you stink like jealousy lol.

I'll let Vendor Support defend me, have fun with your gay little group lol.    20 days    read
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moksha    And I gotta say, absolutely laughable you still feel the need to remind me how little you care. If like you said in one of your first responses you don't care, why keep replying? I simply informed you that you were not up to the standards of having a favorable rating with us. Thought it would be ruder to have some info posted about you in the forums without informing you or giving you a fair chance to defend yourself.

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Title: Re: GemStoneMarket - Vendor Review and Other Hilarious Jokes
Post by: moksha on July 10, 2013, 02:17 am
Some inspirational quotes from our vendor of the year...

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I was only able to get a small amount of it after a very large issue with a giant order with a Canadian contact. I had issues with a previous product that was basicly 40 grams of dud-substance
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The only 84% MDMA I have is completely white and, from the UK and I'm not selling it as it's of lower quallity than what I have up.
Title: Re: GemStoneMarket - Vendor Review and Other Hilarious Jokes
Post by: moksha on July 10, 2013, 03:18 am
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Do you see pills on my page? I've heard of people O'Ding on shit they get in pills, the excess filler, but MDMA crystles and rocks...
This was actually going to be my 1 complaint about GSM, but thankfully he's assured me it's only actual pills that can or will ever be dangerous or contain cut. Thank God for ignorance!
Title: Re: GemStoneMarket - Vendor Review and Other Hilarious Jokes
Post by: moksha on July 10, 2013, 03:24 am
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I dont care about a UK vendor LOL this guy, he grabs any straws he can.
^^ This was in relation to me warning the vendor that crystal and powdered MDMA actually CAN contain dangerous cuts (Wow, science!) and that I'd recently found out a popular UK vendor had been found to contain traces of PMA in one of their batches. I think that was a pretty reasonable concern, but I guess not! Thanks GemStoneMarket for showing me how stupid I've been :D
Title: Re: GemStoneMarket - Vendor Review and Other Hilarious Jokes
Post by: moksha on July 10, 2013, 03:35 am
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I don't think you are part of the Avengers. I think you're powerplaying lol - do your forum post already and prove it! I just wanna see my customers dispute you ha.
I'm completely overwhelmed by the support of your customers. Absolutely engulfed by their cries for me to stop slandering these falsehoods. What ever will I do?

So it turns out I started the MDMA Avengers, and I am so fucking sick and tired and vendors like you claiming completely false purity - to the extent it's NOT EVEN POSSIBLE. C'mon. You're taking the piss mate and you're a completely dishonest vendor, and it detracts from the effort and consistency of real vendors when you act like a child and fail to even google the drug you claim to be an expert it.

I'm all ears sunshine how pure is your MDMA now GemStoneMarket? Is it still 86% MDMA hcl? Or maybe I could grab some of your weaker 84% batch you refuse to sell because it's so weak? Honestly I'm absolutely desperate for some of your super silly fun curry powder please mate.
Title: Re: GemStoneMarket - Vendor Review and Other Hilarious Jokes
Post by: GUS on July 10, 2013, 03:48 am
Moksha you and the other MDMA Avengers are doing a excellent service here!

you know im 100% behind you ;) your the man i ask who to get the good molly from.

I would definitely like my vendors to know a little bit about the drug their selling. this guy doesnt even know the chemical maximum of purity of MDMA HCL!? haha.

btw- ur post made me LOL.
Title: Re: GemStoneMarket - Vendor Review and Other Hilarious Jokes
Post by: moksha on July 10, 2013, 04:03 am
Moksha you and the other MDMA Avengers are doing a excellent service here!

you know im 100% behind you ;) your the man i ask who to get the good molly from.

I would definitely like my vendors to know a little bit about the drug their selling. this guy doesnt even know the chemical maximum of purity of MDMA HCL!? haha.

btw- ur post made me LOL.
Haha thanks GUS - much respect mate. Pretty much sums it up, it honestly is a 4 second google search away.

I know this whole thread is a little overzealous, but really I think it's a hell of a lot more unreasonable to post something with 0 evidence to back it up and claim it as gospel than to state widely accepted facts (happy to back them up again GSM) and direct quotes from the vendor themselves.
Title: Re: GemStoneMarket - Vendor Review and Other Hilarious Jokes
Post by: MuchoBoostin on July 10, 2013, 04:31 am
What he is doing isn't adding to the bigger picture of what we are trying to accomplish here as a community. We all know how reputable businesses work in the "real world". If you want to sell something, you know your product and you don't sell junk, otherwise you will be a flash in the pan. It's relatively easy to get a first time customer(especially online shopping), it's getting that customer back in the door that matters. When I decided to start using MDMA, I did a ton of research before ever ordering so I could at least decipher the BS on a vendors page - if there happened to be any...I can't imagine you wouldn't want to at least attempt to be knowledgeable as a vendor.
Title: Re: GemStoneMarket - Vendor Review and Other Hilarious Jokes
Post by: moksha on July 10, 2013, 05:05 am
What he is doing isn't adding to the bigger picture of what we are trying to accomplish here as a community. We all know how reputable businesses work in the "real world". If you want to sell something, you know your product and you don't sell junk, otherwise you will be a flash in the pan. It's relatively easy to get a first time customer(especially online shopping), it's getting that customer back in the door that matters. When I decided to start using MDMA, I did a ton of research before ever ordering so I could at least decipher the BS on a vendors page - if there happened to be any...I can't imagine you wouldn't want to at least attempt to be knowledgeable as a vendor.
Yeah I honestly wasn't expecting a huge amount of humility as it's still the drug game at the end of the day, but to have.. what I at least thought was a professional vendor put his head in the sand and call me a.. doodle-something? I'm not quite sure.

I really liked the first line of that by the way puts it in a very interesting light, there really is quite a distinction between the vendors who are trying to make this place better as a whole and the ones that are here to make a quick buck at any cost. This vendor might not be as bad as the ashamedly "well known" scammers like "Italy" or dr narco before his exit, but they all reflect a single attitude: money before people.
Title: Re: GemStoneMarket - Vendor Review and Other Hilarious Jokes
Post by: MuchoBoostin on July 10, 2013, 05:32 am
What he is doing isn't adding to the bigger picture of what we are trying to accomplish here as a community. We all know how reputable businesses work in the "real world". If you want to sell something, you know your product and you don't sell junk, otherwise you will be a flash in the pan. It's relatively easy to get a first time customer(especially online shopping), it's getting that customer back in the door that matters. When I decided to start using MDMA, I did a ton of research before ever ordering so I could at least decipher the BS on a vendors page - if there happened to be any...I can't imagine you wouldn't want to at least attempt to be knowledgeable as a vendor.
Yeah I honestly wasn't expecting a huge amount of humility as it's still the drug game at the end of the day, but to have.. what I at least thought was a professional vendor put his head in the sand and call me a.. doodle-something? I'm not quite sure.

I really liked the first line of that by the way puts it in a very interesting light, there really is quite a distinction between the vendors who are trying to make this place better as a whole and the ones that are here to make a quick buck at any cost. This vendor might not be as bad as the ashamedly "well known" scammers like "Italy" or dr narco before his exit, but they all reflect a single attitude: money before people.

And you didn't even approach him abrasively. You think you would try a little to get that extra customer or person in your corner? You post a lot about MDMA and a lot of people follow what you say, so you would be a good one to have in a vendors corner haha.

It is a drug game, but I think you have to think about the type of customer you will attract with what you sell. If you are selling diesel, you are going to generally be servicing a completely different customer than MDMA. They are just different worlds. Money talks tho, and unfortunately we see that in most everything. I just greatly prefer vendors that treat their business like a legit legal business.
Title: Re: GemStoneMarket - Vendor Review and Other Hilarious Jokes
Post by: nanpa2001 on July 10, 2013, 06:29 am
Perhaps the 86% comes from the osmosis (acetone wash) test done on jor's Source G on the MDMA Avengers.
Title: Re: GemStoneMarket - Vendor Review and Other Hilarious Jokes
Post by: moksha on July 10, 2013, 06:37 am
What he is doing isn't adding to the bigger picture of what we are trying to accomplish here as a community. We all know how reputable businesses work in the "real world". If you want to sell something, you know your product and you don't sell junk, otherwise you will be a flash in the pan. It's relatively easy to get a first time customer(especially online shopping), it's getting that customer back in the door that matters. When I decided to start using MDMA, I did a ton of research before ever ordering so I could at least decipher the BS on a vendors page - if there happened to be any...I can't imagine you wouldn't want to at least attempt to be knowledgeable as a vendor.
Yeah I honestly wasn't expecting a huge amount of humility as it's still the drug game at the end of the day, but to have.. what I at least thought was a professional vendor put his head in the sand and call me a.. doodle-something? I'm not quite sure.

I really liked the first line of that by the way puts it in a very interesting light, there really is quite a distinction between the vendors who are trying to make this place better as a whole and the ones that are here to make a quick buck at any cost. This vendor might not be as bad as the ashamedly "well known" scammers like "Italy" or dr narco before his exit, but they all reflect a single attitude: money before people.

And you didn't even approach him abrasively. You think you would try a little to get that extra customer or person in your corner? You post a lot about MDMA and a lot of people follow what you say, so you would be a good one to have in a vendors corner haha.

It is a drug game, but I think you have to think about the type of customer you will attract with what you sell. If you are selling diesel, you are going to generally be servicing a completely different customer than MDMA. They are just different worlds. Money talks tho, and unfortunately we see that in most everything. I just greatly prefer vendors that treat their business like a legit legal business.
Yeah I'll post the full text in a minute to show people exactly what was said, I was just going through the local (Australian) MDMA listings contacting the vendors that had false or outrageous claims about purity or images of their product easily found on other vendors pages or on the clear-net. Pretty standard really as I think I pretty clearly showed it's a good way to weed out the dishonest vendors. I definitely did lose my cool a little but I think the text will make it quite clear why, I was quite noticeably mad by the vendors apparent complete lack of concern - they actually seemed to believe that because they were selling the  drug in crystal form it couldn't possibly be cut. What seems like an outrageously dangerous opinion for anyone to have let the person vending it on a mass scale.

Couldn't of really said it better myself, at the end of the day I essentially offer vendors advertising space (from their perspective business-wise) by way of their test results, and give this info to the wider community and try to do it as accurately and as honestly as possible.
Title: Re: GemStoneMarket - Vendor Review and Other Hilarious Jokes
Post by: moksha on July 10, 2013, 06:43 am
GemStoneMarket(98)    Please bother someone else -_- I don't care if you're right, you can proceed to doodle suck bro? Vendor Supports on their way haha Im not worried, you seem it though. ;)

Give us your shit rating you lil sissy :P. I just like you threatening that because you seem to put so much behind your little group, I find it laughable that you believe you have power over an honest Vendor with a strong client-base or the Round Table lol. But at the end of the day, you're a little text box on the screen. :P

Bet you wish you were a Vendor? Hahahahahaha cry more :D. Jealousy reeks, you stink like jealousy lol.

I'll let Vendor Support defend me, have fun with your gay little group lol.    20 days    read
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moksha    And I gotta say, absolutely laughable you still feel the need to remind me how little you care. If like you said in one of your first responses you don't care, why keep replying? I simply informed you that you were not up to the standards of having a favorable rating with us. Thought it would be ruder to have some info posted about you in the forums without informing you or giving you a fair chance to defend yourself.

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moksha    You are such a moron - READ. I've been saying your "source" of information for the fact that you think MDMA hcl can exceed 84% purity. And that's all I have been saying. Nice tangent though, enjoyed it.

Not that I'd see anything wrong with asking for your actual source of MDMA? I don't give a shit though, I have my sources and they're aware of the maximum purity of MDMA - I wouldn't bother buying off anybody that didn't. Honestly can't even be bothered reading your dribble, I got half way through and it's riddled with spelling errors and like I said.. completely irrelevant insults and bullshit. Not even what I'm talking about.    20 days    read
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GemStoneMarket(98)    I have contacted Vendor Support on our behalf :) Don't worry mate. I informed them that you were attempting to draw contact information from me about my suppliers, and about the forum posts you spoke of reguardling my legitimacy, which I could care less about, but it does seem like you're trying to black-mail contact information from me.. I don't care what group youre apart of, thats a dog act.

We will let a higher authority sort this out.    21 days    read
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GemStoneMarket(98)    But that being said, all is irrelevent since I did have it tested. Your speculation is a nice fantasy; to draw me as a villain, but youre wasting your time haha sorry mate.

Message vendor support - Get them on my case - lol I'm not giving you any information, are you some kind of idiot? I'm not handing over my details of supplier because I view that as untheical as fuck. At worst, I was told incorrect information about AMAZING MDMA I recieved and you're blowing up at the wrong person lol.

"I'm actually a little more worried that you somehow think MDMA crystals or powder couldn't be cut with any dangerous substances, only pills"
Never said that...

I don't think you are part of the Avengers. I think you're powerplaying lol - do your forum post already and prove it! I just wanna see my customers dispute you ha. I look after all my customers, and nothing you can post will change that lol. I dont care about a UK vendor LOL this guy, he grabs any straws he can.

Still waiting for that souce? Suck my doodle please, I protect my contacts with passion. And I've messaged vendor support to inform them I have a user trying to "brown"-mail contact information from me by threatening a forum post about my legitimacy. If you are a legitimate, perhaps unprofessional "crew member" of the Avengers you dont have ANYTHING to worry about.    21 days    read
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moksha    I don't think it's that outlandish, you can't be bothered researching the chemical you're selling so why would you research what the common cuts for MDMA look\test like? Or even bother getting testing kits for that matter, if you're so damn confident it's impossibly pure?

I'm actually a little more worried that you somehow think MDMA crystals or powder couldn't be cut with any dangerous substances, only pills. That's just straight up stupid, and a clear display you know 0 about MDMA. I know for a fact that a currently very popular UK MDMA vendor has sold recent batches that contain PMA, I'd like to know that you're not selling that. And you being clueless and bullshitting me isn't very reassuring.

Still waiting on that source for MDMA hcl exceeding 84% purity - honestly why do you feel the need to lie about your listings? There's plenty of other vendors that manage to make money honestly.    21 days    read
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GemStoneMarket(98)    Hazard to peoples health? Say the MDMA was 80 or whatever as you said and not 86 as I was informed. I would like to know how that would be a hazzard to peoples health? Especially after passing the necessary tests to indicate it was MDMA, and being thoroughly tested by myself and others around me? Do you see pills on my page? I've heard of people O'Ding on shit they get in pills, the excess filler, but MDMA crystles and rocks...

Body count? I think you are being overly dramatic in the position youve chosen to take on the situation. lol Shit, Ive never hurt anyone via my wares. And I always look after my customers.

Do your forum post, it's your right to fill the Silk Road forums with dramatic posts. You seem very theatrical, I can't wait.    21 days    read
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moksha    I'd rather you just learn what the fuck you're selling so you're not a hazard to peoples health, but to each their own. Some people would rather not have a body count as a vendor, nice to know you're not one of them.    22 days    read
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GemStoneMarket(98)    I've been busy and am restructuring my store for Product Requests.

If you feel the need to spend your time that way please go ahead, it's your right :-).    22 days    read
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moksha    So no response then? Sorry but I feel the need to warn others in the forum, you seemed to be very misinformed about the product you're selling and I believe this could lead to you endangering others.

I also run an MDMA testing group on the forums called the MDMA Avengers, you will be listed as a bad vendor and the community will be warned against you.    22 days    read
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moksha    Do you have any references for it being possible to be over 84%? You need 16% of the mass to be a salt otherwise the MDMA will be too unstable and be a caustic oil (the more so as it approaches 100% freebase MDMA).

And going by your picture that is most certainly not pure MDMA, colour makes up 1-2% of the overall products purity but it is still impossible to have it pure and not be white\clear. I can get you a guide on how to acetone wash your MDMA to test for purity if you'd like to find out what kind of product you're actually selling.

Regards,

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GemStoneMarket(98)    I was only able to get a small amount of it after a very large issue with a giant order with a Canadian contact. I had issues with a previous product that was basicly 40 grams of dud-substance, and waited months for this specific listing. It wasnt for Sale, it was for me.

It is what I have left over from my personal-stash - I purchased this as 86% MDMA for myself. I do not know where you got that "when it's only possible" part, but reading 2-3 google results that tell you that 84% is the highest you can go doesn't set that in stone - That is a myth. This is the strongest MDMA I've ever come across PERSONALLY, and I've taken a lot of capsules personally.

The only 84% MDMA I have is completely white and, from the UK and I'm not selling it as it's of lower quallity than what I have up.    24 days    read
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moksha    Hi GSM,

Just wondering how you managed to get your hands on 86% pure MDMA when it's only possible to have 84% pure MDMA hcl?

Regards,

moksha    24 days    read
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