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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: koelen3 on November 17, 2012, 11:43 pm

Title: What the hell is this?
Post by: koelen3 on November 17, 2012, 11:43 pm
Well, while SR has being down and it's back up.
It gives me several issues that haven't been fixed yet.
In other words, SR even became weirder then while it was online.

Accounts that have been locked out, going back to login page while browsing.
Are just the 'small' things.
But why is SR now redirected to another .onion address?
I get several errors like this:

404 Page Not Found
The page you requested was not found.

While I wanted to go to this link it first happened to me.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/category/229

I do really appreciate every little thing DPR has to deal with etc.
But why is it so tricky right now then?
People whose transfer more then 50btc at a time right now don't get their coins,
vendors losing their listings or even go to stealth mode without knowing, you can't search etc...
Those things are part of a bigger something I guess.

Remember, we didn't receive an official update from DPR before there had to be a topic made for it.
People have their thoughts now of SR and don't trust it 100% anymore after a couple of men were arrested by feds and someone killed himself on 25i he bought on SR.

Just watch your back and don't trust anybody.

Koelen3.
Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: ttd on November 18, 2012, 12:27 am
People have their thoughts now of SR and don't trust it 100% anymore after a couple of men were arrested by feds and someone killed himself on 25i he bought on SR.

What men and why does an arrest mean SR isn't trustworthy?

Same for the guy who killed himself, powerful drugs are powerful, people are unstable. That was true before the site went down, before it existed, and will be true forever.
Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: koelen3 on November 18, 2012, 12:32 am
@damaged

I'm not saying it has been compromised, I just don't trust it 100% anymore.
And in my opinion no one should do.
I appreciate DPR's work he putted in this etc, and I love buying drugs online and not from that scumbag dealer at the door.

@ttd

Here is an article on the clearnet:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/07/melbourne-man-arrested-after-allegedly-importing-drugs-via-silk-road/

Koelen3.
Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: koelen3 on November 18, 2012, 12:40 am
I haven't even thought of that.
But as said in another topic:

Only have the BTC in your account you need for an order.
And only work with vendors who have 97%+

Koelen3.
Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: DonnyBerger on November 18, 2012, 01:03 am
Been a bit slower early in the evening but not been in stealth mode, had listings diaspear e.t.c
Ive never heard bout arrests .
i have total trust in DPR  and the team and if we stay safe we will be fine on it.
As for people dying on the drugs they buy here  its the same on the streets, drugs are drugs. Thats more about the person. also been moving plenty of btc' about
donny :)
Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: fuckoffehbuddy on November 18, 2012, 01:32 am
@damaged

I'm not saying it has been compromised, I just don't trust it 100% anymore.
And in my opinion no one should do.
I appreciate DPR's work he putted in this etc, and I love buying drugs online and not from that scumbag dealer at the door.

@ttd

Here is an article on the clearnet:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/07/melbourne-man-arrested-after-allegedly-importing-drugs-via-silk-road/

Koelen3.
first off trust nobody or anything 100%
second the guy who got arrested was australian surprise surprise those pigs over there have a major hard on for sr but he didn't get arrested from using sr if you read carefully he was arrested b/c his package that they can't tie in any way to sr
Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: quinone on November 18, 2012, 01:50 am
I haven't even thought of that.
But as said in another topic:

Only have the BTC in your account you need for an order.
And only work with vendors who have 97%+

Koelen3.

That's a bit unfair to say to only deal with vendor's with 97+. 

The rating system is fucked. 

If someone is trying to scam you and you unfortunately get burned with a 1/5 from the fuck your rating will go down a lot (unless it was a small value sale cuz they base it in part on the cost of the order).

To get it to go back up even one point takes 10x more sales (in monetary value) then the 1/5 sale that fucked you in the first place.

As long as they're like 90+ and MORE IMPORTANTLY the freshness of their feedback is all good recent feedback you shouldn't be too worried.  Some vendor's stumble and even outright make a mistake at the beginning of their ... 'vendorship' and it takes MONTHS of sales to crawl out of ONE bad feedback.  But most of them get their shit together pretty fucking quick when they do screw up, and as long as the freshest feedback's are all good they're probably a good vendor. 

Ranking is just a number, feedback is buyer's personal experiences in words, which IMHO is far more relevant.
Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: gypsy on November 18, 2012, 03:06 am
...That's a bit unfair to say to only deal with vendor's with 97+. 

The rating system is fucked. 

quinone gives a good explanation of feedback. one or even two bad transactions wouldn't cause me to avoid a vendor if the vendor fixed the issue & the negative feedback is old.  that's how i do it anyway <peace sign smiley>
Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: microboilie on November 18, 2012, 06:17 am
I haven't experienced any problems myself, I usually come on around this time (6am GMT) and have had no problems with connecting and logging in, I only use a handful of vendors I have used for the last 7/8 months or so, haven't had any problems ordering or with coins. working as good as it ever was for me.

have you got a link to these people who have been lifted and the lad who died? it's worth remembering that drug busts happen IRL too, and I imagine vendors on here sell locally too, as for the lad who died, as horrible as it is, but it sort of goes with the territory, drugs aren't safe, you have to treat them with respect.
Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: jesse on November 18, 2012, 10:42 am
It is strange....I could not even log in for the forum ......said server did not recognize the request.
Then I read this post (not logged in) and it said welcome and I am logged in...weird .
Yesterday (EU time)  was okay, had access to all....mail, orders etc. but....that stopped in the evening and I am not able to get access till now.
Since I got up 3 hours ago (US time 2 AM!!) I am trying to get connected and yes, after 3 hours there it was. Lots of messages, transactions .. COOL
BUT>>>>after reply to the first message ...you guessed it.....down !!! Cannot send the message let alone read and reply to all the others.
And....it is 11AM here so still bedtime for you US's, it cannot be the traffic that cause the delay or whatever.
This is not funny anymore, for sure all problems are not solved at all.
When all is ''repaired'' it should work better....at least as before when it was also not really good for a long time but then you could get in after a few attempts.

On the rating comment.
Its a strange, unfair system.
I am a 100 vendor for quite some time now (8 months, 300+ sales) and one customer gave a 4/5 ( the package was later then expected, my fault yeah right.... I control mail service) and my rate went down to 98.8.
This is absurd ...it also makes you to give in to demands from customers for a higher refund or so because they can fuck you bad if you don't.
I always say I will not be blackmailed.
The one who does that to me will end up on my profile and forums with name, the offer I made, the response and the rating.
Of course can never order again
 



Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on November 18, 2012, 10:49 am
I'm fairly sure it had something to do with the BTC's being traced, I remember there being something about it saying that, but he was charged with over 10 things, chances are they intercepted the shit at customs and he kept ordering stuff. Either way, all it would take for someone to fuck someone's life up would be to order a shitload of something to their house in their name.

It's scary when you think about it!

FUCK THE DRUG WHORE *AHEM* I MEAN WAR!

@damaged

I'm not saying it has been compromised, I just don't trust it 100% anymore.
And in my opinion no one should do.
I appreciate DPR's work he putted in this etc, and I love buying drugs online and not from that scumbag dealer at the door.

@ttd

Here is an article on the clearnet:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/07/melbourne-man-arrested-after-allegedly-importing-drugs-via-silk-road/

Koelen3.
first off trust nobody or anything 100%
second the guy who got arrested was australian surprise surprise those pigs over there have a major hard on for sr but he didn't get arrested from using sr if you read carefully he was arrested b/c his package that they can't tie in any way to sr
Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: nabuchodonosor on November 18, 2012, 10:51 am

On the rating comment.
Its a strange, unfair system.
I am a 100 vendor for quite some time now (8 months, 300+ sales) and one customer gave a 4/5 ( the package was later then expected, my fault yeah right.... I control mail service) and my rate went down to 98.8.
This is absurd ...it also makes you to give in to demands from customers for a higher refund or so because they can fuck you bad if you don't.


Yest, it is fucked up. But did you tried to talk to him. You now, explain the situation, a mean how does the World work, who rules, who and how controls the Post, and that we did not build a teleport yet. Sometimes people are just pissed off and they need to do something to feel better. We dealing with drugs here, mostly, everybody are in huge stress here, vendors, buyers, it is a very big family full of stress.
Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on November 18, 2012, 10:54 am
She's telling the truth, there's been busts all over Aus about it mate, it's been all over the news and shit.

The Australian Federal Police have a major hard-on for SR now and it's not helped by the fact that the cybercrime division of Interpol's in Sydney either.

They have a taskforce setup for it, they've admitted it in the media, which TBH is why I thought they had caught DPR and SR's staff until yesterday!

I haven't experienced any problems myself, I usually come on around this time (6am GMT) and have had no problems with connecting and logging in, I only use a handful of vendors I have used for the last 7/8 months or so, haven't had any problems ordering or with coins. working as good as it ever was for me.

have you got a link to these people who have been lifted and the lad who died? it's worth remembering that drug busts happen IRL too, and I imagine vendors on here sell locally too, as for the lad who died, as horrible as it is, but it sort of goes with the territory, drugs aren't safe, you have to treat them with respect.
Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: jesse on November 18, 2012, 11:05 am

On the rating comment.
Its a strange, unfair system.
I am a 100 vendor for quite some time now (8 months, 300+ sales) and one customer gave a 4/5 ( the package was later then expected, my fault yeah right.... I control mail service) and my rate went down to 98.8.
This is absurd ...it also makes you to give in to demands from customers for a higher refund or so because they can fuck you bad if you don't.


Yest, it is fucked up. But did you tried to talk to him. You now, explain the situation, a mean how does the World work, who rules, who and how controls the Post, and that we did not build a teleport yet. Sometimes people are just pissed off and they need to do something to feel better. We dealing with drugs here, mostly, everybody are in huge stress here, vendors, buyers, it is a very big family full of stress.

Yes I talked to him, its okay now, but it is the principal that counts.
If you have two of those jokers it will take months getting your reputation back.
I am lucky selling something that is scarce and much demand :-)
Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: DonnyBerger on November 18, 2012, 02:10 pm
Ive had 20 transactions and one gave me 3/5 and my rating went down from 100 to 92.1% . Its harsh but keeps you on your toes and makes sure you always work your socks off. Customers can always edit their feedback so if you sort some kind of deal out with them it alwasy helps
Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: jesse on November 18, 2012, 02:52 pm
Ive had 20 transactions and one gave me 3/5 and my rating went down from 100 to 92.1% . Its harsh but keeps you on your toes and makes sure you always work your socks off. Customers can always edit their feedback so if you sort some kind of deal out with them it alwasy helps
It is not so much keeping on your toes, it is the fact that they can blackmail you for more then what is agreed on in the profile as example.
You can have 5/5 and a sort of cool/cold response or they can praise you for almost every deal you made because they are so happy the way it is done and giving the trust and confidence that they made the right choice...guess what part I have?
Like I said somewhere before, I sell something almost no one has and many want so I am always okay but not arrogant because of it. Its my pride to keep my 100.
I had one that wanted full refund in resolution center ...30 messages!!! further and giving him more then was agreed the admin settled it for exactly what was in my profile.
I got of course a 1/5 ....there will always be jerks so now I often sell ''no'' if someone does not sound okay to begin with.
Title: Re: What the hell is this?
Post by: DonnyBerger on November 18, 2012, 03:07 pm
Can i ask what you sell? You make some really good points. Pride in great service and products is what i aim for and the customer is always right, although it may not seem like it ;)