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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: Audioslave on December 07, 2012, 01:53 am
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the trans isomer of 4-mar was proven to be legal in a court decision and its production is a pretty simple reduction of phenylpropanolamine-HCl (PPA), or synthesize cathinone or extract from khat
You could extract it from khat or synthesize it. Both would be perfectly viable. It may be risky to import khat leaves, depending on were you are located. Either way you could produce a very clean product fairly easily. Norephedrine would be the preferred precursor to use for a cathinone synthesis. The plant extract can have issues with becoming racemized and is not quite as stable as the synthetic cathinone, but both are reasonably stable in the presence of a strong acid.
You could also use mandelate salt to synthesize cathinone. The yields are not nearly as efficient as the Norephedrine synthesis, but it is always good to have options.
All the compounds needed in they Norephedrine ----> Cathinone synthesis can be sourced or synthesized as well.
hypothetically this would be the best route... IMO
Norephedrine + HCO2H (-H2O) + CrO3 + %20 HCL ----> Cathinone
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Trans 4-Methylaminorex via Potassium Cyanate
Chemicals:
28.2 g (0.15 moles) (+/-) norephedrine-HCl. NOTE: (+/-) norephedrine-HCl and (+/-) norspeudoephedrine all fall under the rubric of PPA. You want norephedrine, not norspeudoephedrine.
12.0 g potassium cyanate (KOCN)
172 ml 2M hydrochloric acid (HCl)
20% sodium carbonate (Na2CO3)
Dichloromethane (DCM)
Distilled water (dH2O)
Equipment:
500 ml flat bottom flask
Magnetic hotplate with stir bar
Thermometer
Put 28.2 g PPA-HCl in about 150 ml dH2O in your 500 ml Erlenmeyer. It should all dissolve easily. Next add 12.0 g KOCN and magnetically stir. About 75% of the KOCN should dissolve readily. Reflux the mixture directly on your hotplate. Hotplate should just be hot enough to boil your mixture. At about 35 deg C, all the KOCN should dissolve. Reflux for about 2.5 hours, then allow to cool to room temp. First you should notice a clear oil precipitating to the top. Further cooling will precipitate white flakes on the bottom. Place the flask in your freezer for about ½ hour or until temp drops to 5 deg C. Pour the solution into a pyrex dish and slowly evaporate over low heat. Do not evaporate completely. Next, place the solution back in your washed Erlenmeyer and add about 275 ml dH2O. It should dissolve slightly. Magnetically stir and begin heating the solution. Add 172 ml of 2M HCl and continue stirring and heating until just boiling. At about 50-60 deg C the white solution should turn clear again. Reflux again for about 2.5 hours magnetically stirring the whole time. Allow to cool to room temp. White powder will appear.
Wash the solution 3 times with a small amount of DCM. Isolate the water phase and basify it with your 20% Na2CO3 until no more white powder precipitates. Gravity filter the white powder and allow to dry at room temp with a fan or in an oven at low temp. Your yield should be about 15.5 g (+/-) trans 4-MAR freebase. If you want, you can make it water soluble by treating with HCl. I would not recommend taking more than 10 mg the first time as this is a very powerful drug. Enjoy.
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The interest is sky high. It's more of a question of when will we actually see it? The demand appears to be growing, hopefully it's a matter of time. Lot's of folks look at the older method and think it's a no go. Simply not true. There's more than one way to skin a goat, and this is the first time I've used that term. lol But it is one of the compounds I came here for and continue to browse for daily. I'm not alone. The others are clonazepam powder, dexedrine powder, and phenmetrazine. The latter two share a common synthetic route to 4-mar and the right person could produce all 4 from the same starting materials if they choose...
There are some very simple & far more easier/efficient routes to norephedrine itself for those with the right resources if you sift through some patents. That opens many beautiful doors for those with the right keys.
Keep an eye the vendor ruthenium. He's stated plans to drop the real deal later this month (the cis isomer).
Also, the forum member Chapman...of whom I had high hopes but I'm starting to lose faith in as he hasn't been around for some time. Hopefully he didn't blow himself up or run into LEO. He promised to drop mid December at the lastest, after he droped Preludin...which I'm saddened to see hasn't happened yet. Hopefully he'll surprise us yet.
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You could also try and keep an eye out for phendimetrazine, something I have a lot of personal experience with. Its a pro-drug of phenmetrazine but retains about a 1/3 of the potency...commonly prescribed diet pill along with phetermine, and thanks for the heads up on the seller
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