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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: IndYGogIRL23498 on November 20, 2011, 05:08 pm

Title: XTC Lab
Post by: IndYGogIRL23498 on November 20, 2011, 05:08 pm
HEy there,
id really like to know how hard it is to manufacture those.
What do they put in those pills beside mdma?
I dont really know if I would ever consider doing this, still i was always wondering how it works
Title: Re: XTC Lab
Post by: ruroad on November 20, 2011, 09:21 pm
check this - https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/index.html

Synthesis is hard if you don't have knowledge of organic chemistry
Title: Re: XTC Lab
Post by: wowzers on November 21, 2011, 11:11 pm
Ideally nothing should go in but MDMA, a bit of pharmaceutical grade binder, filler, colour and a little lube for the pressing.

And happily most pills (in Europe at least) do contain these, granted they're probably not made under GMP conditions, and the MDMA put in is probably not the purest (cruddy reaction by-products) but there's fewer and fewer contaminated pills going around this year. We had a bad run of pills containing piperazine blends up until the end of 2010 but as hundreds of tons of safrole, piperonal and even MDP2P have come to Europe via China's ports, EU labs have been churning out good quality MDMA.

It's not all positive though, there are pills which have MDXX + an amount of one of the hundreds of quasi-legal stimulants flooding the 'bath salt' market, and there are lots of pills which smell of safrole as an indicator of quality. MDMA is colourless and odourless, so safrole smells are a result of chemicals added after the synthesis or are starting material carried through the synthesis.

Have a look at the results at pillreports for a qualitative assessment or http://www.ecstasydata.org/ for a more quantitative look at what's doing the rounds.
Title: Re: XTC Lab
Post by: wumg00 on November 23, 2011, 06:46 am
Ideally nothing should go in but MDMA, a bit of pharmaceutical grade binder, filler, colour and a little lube for the pressing.

took the words out of my mouth +1 8)