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Title: What does everyone think about vendor Larghetto?
Post by: mxelover198 on December 08, 2012, 10:58 pm
So I think Larghetto is a scamming dropshipper. I could be wrong. I am looking for other people who have experiences with him, either on here or elsewhere, to chime in. I have heard reports he was scamming on Topix, 420chan, and elsewhere on the clearnet. On here, I have heard he ships from countries that are blacklisted, like Pakistan, and doesn't inform buyers. Also, that he pressures them to FE and rarely sends actual product. His prices are absurdly high and I think his scamming reflects poorly on SR as a whole and the vendor community.
Title: Re: What does everyone think about vendor Larghetto?
Post by: larghetto on December 09, 2012, 08:21 pm
Hello,


I don't really want to even comment on such a silly thread that's just so pathetic.

"So I think" = Why do you think? Is there any reason, proof, or even to be childish as this - *provocation* - for  you to think this?

"Scamming dropshipper" = If either one of those is true with your reasoning the other word would be wrong.

"I could be wrong." = What reason or proof based in actual logic and not fantasy have you got to think you're right first?

"I am looking for other people who have experiences with him, either on here or elsewhere, to chime in." = Are you trying to slyly insinuate you have experience with me? Because I know you don't. If you did not only would you not be posting this since you'd know you were wrong, but you'd actually post something like details to satisfy your ***BURDEN OF PROOF*** with your claims.

"I have heard reports he was scamming on Topix, 420chan, and elsewhere on the clearnet." = I have zero idea what you're talking about here. Clearly these reports have enough substance for you to believe them without quoting them for the fact they are though.

"On here, I have heard he ships from countries that are blacklisted, like Pakistan, and doesn't inform buyers." = You have "heard"? Please can you detail me as to the exact situations in which I have lied to buyers about anything. I also don't have any products from Pakistan which kind of stumps that. I don't have any products from countries that would be considered a "black listed" one anyway, but are you trying to say we should not allow people from countries you don't like to not be here? How prejudice!

"Also, that he pressures them to FE" = My FE category is clearly stated for products and are very much inline with other sellers. I currently have about 1,000 Bitcoins in escrow with buyers. Why don't you pick on a seller that actually goes over the top and asked for EVERYONE to finalize instead of those who are new, and are generally asked to do so, especially with my items. Or why not just simply not buy my products? I do say that you shouldn't if you don't agree with my very reasonable terms in not only my opinion, but my 1500+ customers so far.

"and rarely sends actual product." = Just stupid. Been here almost 2 years, processed nearly 2000 orders, have almost 500 fans, a huge positive rating, and a top 10% ranking. Clearly the stats of someone who "rarely sends actual product" (sarcasm).

"His prices are absurdly high and I think his scamming reflects poorly on SR as a whole and the vendor community" = Don't order, and that's just your opinion. Seriously, I won't serve you anyway if I knew who you were instead of making an account the day you posted this and would of told everyone I know not to serve you either.


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Apart from the fact I've not missed almost any words with this "person" has written without showing flaw or plain foolishness in it. I want to leave with what this person said a little while ago. It's a post complimenting another persons post requesting proof regarding these allegation which are just very childish attempts at me which are still very nasty and make me ill to think that they are trying to hurt my business's good name.

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We realize this is an old post, and not to say one way or the other anything about Calistoner's reason to post this or anything about Larghetto; that being noted, guilty accusations with out bonafide documentation is just wrong. We solute this post ONLY for that reason. You can chose to believe someone is a scammer or not on a personal basis, but if it is not been proven it would be best kept in your own closet of beliefs/fantasies/personal grudges.

Thank you for your time!



So please, go back to your closet.

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Best regards,
Larghetto
Title: Re: What does everyone think about vendor Larghetto?
Post by: mcolive on December 20, 2012, 01:08 pm
No shipping for over two weeks. Made me finalize early, now SR says they can't do a thing, like ban his worthless butt. I spent half my weeks wages on pain relief and he won't answer my questions, let alone ship sh&%. I am so angry, been waiting patiently until this week and now find I can DO NOTHING. What a rip.
Title: Re: What does everyone think about vendor Larghetto?
Post by: mpaka2 on January 09, 2013, 11:17 am
Here is my experience with Larghetto. I placed a large order worth around $530, which included sample RCs shipped from a different location than the bulk of my order. I received the RCs (with tracking/signature, perfect packaging and quality), but never received the main goods, which were (he says) sent without tracking.

All throughout my communication with Larghetto, and before he convinced me to FE, he insisted that I was covered by a "100% reship guarantee". After some 6 weeks of waiting for the main part of the order (I was patient since I was pleased with the RCs package, which arrived on time), Larghetto refused to honor the reship agreement and instead offered only an unspecific "discount" on future orders.

It was only then that I checked the SR forums to find the many complaints against Larghetto. It appears to me that he is a selective scammer -- he'll scam you for a large order if he thinks it's worth it. Small orders to build his feedback, large orders for easy extra money. I suspect this is why he has a rating of around 96-98 -- it's good enough as long as his last 10 feedback are 5/5 most of the time.

So, while I don't believe Larghetto actually shipped the main part of my order (only the RCs, which he ships from another location), even if he did, he backed out of his own "reship guarantee" and I'm left with no product and a $400 loss (the RCs being worth approx. $130).

Beware of large orders with Larghetto. Definitely don't FE for a medium or large order with him.
Title: Re: What does everyone think about vendor Larghetto?
Post by: larghetto on January 09, 2013, 11:54 pm
There really is no need to double post mpaka. Here was most of our post.


With regard to how we do things when we ask for FE, we've very much reduced the requisites to be asked for it. It also is mainly asked for orders that have no tracking. These are ONLY our pharms (the undeclared ones).

I would like to say, absolutely without a doubt, that I'd really want to give some kind of insurance for people who lose their orders (and we do much more now, but keep quiet about it due to the scammers seeing this and not believing our profile instead). However, we have to *at least state on our profile* that we can't give refunds for non tracked orders. Otherwise people can claim it without ANY proof and we are stuck! We DO cover tracked items tho.

Please, please, PLEASE try to see it from out point of view. We have literally no way of stopping people from claiming it. We NEVER EVER EVER scam anyone in ANY instance for ANY amount with ANY stats or ANY item. We are an honest vendor, and we just are afraid of dishonest people ourselves.

As we say, we've made things better now with regard to the things that were brought up. If you two would like to ask for a small refund respective to your orders and stats, then we will do so.

Also, you have to realize that orders DO get lost sometimes. With our previous policy, we tried to cover the people who would claim such a thing and give a discount on a following order, making us safe from such attempts for the most part. We also gave the RANGE of 10-20 orders since people often pay for raffles and lotteries to bump up their score and then make a massive order.

This is not just a one way thing this problem that you bring up! This blade cuts both ways - the buyers AND the sellers.

We do OPENLY state that orders that get lost we can't cover (even tho we do most of the time quietly with something esp these days). This is to protect us ONLY with orders without tracking which are our undeclared pharms. All other items, which are many we will cover.


I hope this helps comfort some peoples concerns. We also have a 0.2% seizure rate, and if customs don't send out a seizure letter that is against the protocols of countries with any kind of legal system and is tantamount to stealing and corruption.

People on this forum have a jealousy and a bit of a nasty attitude in my opinion. If you actually bother to read the whole things that are brought up in these hate spams, you'll see that they are mostly unfounded.

If we actually did scam people for large amounts (which is completely non needed with the money we make as with any other top vendor) then our ranking and our score would be hit proportional to the cost of the order. I actually can't think of an order with a large cost value that we had a problem with. Only small ones.


Best regards,
Larghetto


P.S. The reason why our feedback score is not higher than it is (it still is pretty high at 97, and it has been higher with 99 and even 100 at some points) is simply because people will leave absolutely crazy things as their feedback, or just give a 1/5 without even a comment! We contact EVERY single person WITHOUT FAIL who has given a score lower than 5/5.

They don't contact us though prior to posting such a thing, and won't even answer or sometimes even read their messages :(

It would be great if sellers could leave some feedback for buyers, and has been brought up as an option.


PLEASE READ this post: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=102369.msg714933#msg714933
Title: Re: What does everyone think about vendor Larghetto?
Post by: nimatek on January 11, 2013, 03:15 pm
Ordering his stuff, I immediately received an automated message with a request to be finalized early in connection with the upcoming holidays. I was somewhat taken aback, but I finalized, given his reputation for SR.

After 4 weeks, I received a package with the track, for which I had to sign it in the mail. It is not in my plans.
After tasting the contents - I realized that was beautifully thrown. This is not what I ordered. While looking like the original substance.

I can say that the seller is not honest work. Purchase you make with it at your own risk.
Good scam this Larghetto.

Customer support can not do anything. Escrow powerless after FE:(
 Seller pulls the cat's balls...

You peace, goodness and truth.


Заказав у него стафф, я тут же получил автоматическое сообщение с прошением финализировать рано в связи с грядущими праздниками. Меня это несколько смутило, но я финализировал, учитывая его репутацию на SR .

По прошествию 4 недель я получил посылку с треком, за которую мне пришлось расписаться на почте. Это не входило в мои планы.
Попробовав содержимое - я понял, что был красиво кинут. Это совсем не то, что я заказывал . Хотя на вид похоже оригинальное вещество.

Могу констатировать, что продавец ведёт не честную работу. Покупки с ним вы совершаете на свой страх и риск.
Хороший кидала этот Larghetto.

В службе поддержки ничего сделать не могут. Escrow бессилен после финализирования(
Продавец тянет кота за яйца.

Всем мира, добра и правды.
Title: Re: What does everyone think about vendor Larghetto?
Post by: larghetto on January 12, 2013, 07:16 am
Why didn't you respond when we immediately responded to your message?

You only wait until now 2 days later to say anything, and in the forum of all places...?

We've sent about 300g's's of MXE to the Eastern Block, including Russia and Ukraine. We haven't had any complaints, even with 50g-100g orders.

Your 2g order is very important to us though.

We would love to come to understand why you think the product isn't what you say it is though. The only reason that we can understand is the following line:

"I ordered 2 grams mxt. substance is not rush my mind!!!! This is not metoxetamine!!!"

We would like to truly be forthcoming when we solve this problem though. Please can you describe what you do not feel and would like to feel.

Specifically when the "substance rush [your] mind!!!!"

OUR GUARANTEE OF PURITY: We would also like to add that we make an offer that if you doubt the purity of our product being less than 95% and you decide to test it we will pay for the test and refund your item without ANY objection should it be lacking.

One person did a random range of tests on our MXE with top lab instruments and came to the conclusion it was 99.9+% pure. His feedback is on display.


I hope we can solve this.


See below for the message log between us.



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from   message   freshness   
Larghetto(96)    Hello,


We certainly gave you the correct item. Can you please send us photos? Please include all the packaging.


Thanks,
Larghetto    2 days    read
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nimatek    Your work methods utterly unacceptable.
you fooled me!
Firstly, you were ordered to be finalized early.
secondly, I had to sign in the mail.
Thirdly, you sent me is not what I ordered! How can this be???

I ordered 2 grams mxt. substance is not rush my mind!!!! This is not metoxetamine!!!

How will we solve this problem?    2 days    read
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nimatek    I already have a percel/ Thanx    2 days    read
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