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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: strea70 on September 27, 2012, 12:52 am

Title: What does everyone think of piracetam/ginkgo piloba before rolling?
Post by: strea70 on September 27, 2012, 12:52 am
Do you think taking a piracetam capsule (800 mg) or a ginkgo pill before rolling (whether on mdma, ket , speed.. whatever) intensifies the roll?

Heard a lot about these 'nootropic' drugs but only tried piracetam a few times and not sure if it was placebo or not but I did seem to roll harder..
Title: Re: What does everyone think of piracetam/ginkgo piloba before rolling?
Post by: apples on September 27, 2012, 03:46 am
please do not take MDMA and ginko biloba together. GB is an MAOI and there's a risk for serotonin syndrome if you ingest them both together (increasing more and more depending on the dose of each)
Title: Re: What does everyone think of piracetam/ginkgo piloba before rolling?
Post by: Caparino on September 27, 2012, 03:50 am
Piracetam for sure. It made my acid trips more insightful. What's weird though, now whenever I take piracetam, I get the acid "wavy vision" if I focus on something for a couple seconds
Title: Re: What does everyone think of piracetam/ginkgo piloba before rolling?
Post by: strea70 on September 27, 2012, 09:54 am
please do not take MDMA and ginko biloba together. GB is an MAOI and there's a risk for serotonin syndrome if you ingest them both together (increasing more and more depending on the dose of each)

Appreciate the comment, never thought ginkgo would be a MAOI. My friend always drops 3/4 pilla before dosing up on mdma.. So if it really is MAIO he is lucky to not have gotten fucked.. He always says he rolls harder haha, i guess piracetam is good then?
Title: Re: What does everyone think of piracetam/ginkgo piloba before rolling?
Post by: TheBusiness on September 27, 2012, 10:27 am
Racetams with your MDMA will give a complimentary stimulation as you come up but it's very short lived. Some people report that it lessens the effects of their roll overall. I'd love to know the answer. Anyone else tried?
Title: Re: What does everyone think of piracetam/ginkgo piloba before rolling?
Post by: ianfleming on September 27, 2012, 03:38 pm
They warn you NOT to take Ginko Biloba with an MAOI, therefore I'm pretty sure that it's not an MAOI itself.
Title: Re: What does everyone think of piracetam/ginkgo piloba before rolling?
Post by: apples on September 27, 2012, 08:08 pm
They warn you NOT to take Ginko Biloba with an MAOI, therefore I'm pretty sure that it's not an MAOI itself.

"Extracts of Ginkgo leaves contain flavonoid glycosides and terpenoids (ginkgolides, bilobalides) and have been used pharmaceutically. These extracts are shown to exhibit reversible, non-selective monoamine oxidase inhibition, as well as inhibition of reuptake at the serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine transporters, with all but the norepinephrine reuptake inhibition fading in chronic exposure"
Title: Re: What does everyone think of piracetam/ginkgo piloba before rolling?
Post by: ianfleming on September 27, 2012, 10:08 pm
I stand corrected
Title: Re: What does everyone think of piracetam/ginkgo piloba before rolling?
Post by: seshat on September 27, 2012, 10:12 pm
Has anybody ever taken 5-HTP before or after a roll?
I took 5-HTP on my comedown from a roll and it was less harsh
Title: Re: What does everyone think of piracetam/ginkgo piloba before rolling?
Post by: apples on September 27, 2012, 10:16 pm
Has anybody ever taken 5-HTP before or after a roll?
I took 5-HTP on my comedown from a roll and it was less harsh
5-htp to my understanding will lessen the neurotoxic effects effects of mdma and increase recovery time. i wouldn't take it if you are on any SSRI's or MAOI's obviously (again serotonin syndrome risk)
Title: Re: What does everyone think of piracetam/ginkgo piloba before rolling?
Post by: ianfleming on September 27, 2012, 10:37 pm
I've taken 5-HTP after, it made for a VERY nice afterglow. Though that was my first roll too.

I've heard that taking it before hand can weaken the roll.
Title: Re: What does everyone think of piracetam/ginkgo piloba before rolling?
Post by: Ahoyhoy on September 30, 2012, 10:24 am
There's no consensus on the best postloading regimen but I take 5-htp, magnesium, vit b6, lipolic, piracetum and green tea extract. 5-htp is a pecursor to serotonin so it makes sense to take it as a supplement.
Title: Re: What does everyone think of piracetam/ginkgo piloba before rolling?
Post by: seshat on October 03, 2012, 05:15 am
Sweet! thanks for the info guys