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Title: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: h345jsfs943 on October 11, 2012, 08:05 pm
Hello Silk Road, this is my first post on the forums, but i have been lurking for a while.

22 days ago i orderer a plaque of 200 from djabbar, i didn't contact him before it had gone 18 days, and he told me to wait untill it had gone 21 days before making any assumptions about the package missing in transit, he also said we could come to an agreement for refund if it did not arrive.

I sent a message to djabbar yesterday, and i have not recieved an answer yet.

I searched up djabbar on the forums AFTER i have ordered from him (yes i know I'm stupid), but what is so wierd is that 50% of the people who ordered from him got their package, but the other 50% said they didn't recieve it.

People have also said in the product review that their package took anything between 15 to 29 days to arrive, could this be the problem?

I have also seen other vendors that have stopped sending to Norway because of increased security measures, could it have been stopped? And if it has been stopped, why haven't i gotten any visit from v& and/or custom seize letters?

I dont wanna say djabbar is a scammer since anything could have happened, but if anyone know anything it would be great to be informed.

Regards
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: wsg on October 11, 2012, 09:27 pm
I have been looking to make a purchase from this vendor and am just about to place an order. His feedback score is very high but all the posts that I have read have said the same thing....it takes along time to get product from this vendor.....I am expecting 30days for my product.... if it comes sooner great but I would rather a vendor take the time to package it right the first time and if stealth shipping takes a couple extra days to send oh well.

Most post I see about Djabbar and not getting packages are from people with under 10 posts  ( no offense here) but I then assume that they are newer to SR and with being new comes the paranoia of being ripped off, ( which I get as well) but I normaly just roll a big fatty and sigh decide to wait it out and so far i have had my orders get thru

"ranked in the top 8% of sellers with 91.1% positive feedback from more than 300 transactions" 
 I notice most bad feedback looks like a selective scam or are they people that just didn't come back to change feedback after getting product.
One persons comment was never got it but they left a 5/5 so I would guess they changed there feedback but not there comment.  I will be following your post to see what comments others have before ordering!
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: Rentner on October 11, 2012, 09:40 pm
I would never buy from Djabbar... wasnt that guy that got busted some time ago?
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: h345jsfs943 on October 12, 2012, 11:23 am
I think he is an selective scammer actually, because i recieved a message today from him saying that if i re-ordered the hash, WITH t&t i would get double sent (ex get 400 if i order 200), so it seems to me that djabbar scams those who order without tracking because there is no way to prove he sent the package, and there is no way to prove that you did / did not recieve it.

I'm not going to order from djabbar again, but if anyone else want to try him out, please go ahead.
I'll be back here to write a new post if the package does indeed show up.

Regards
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: Rentner on October 12, 2012, 12:50 pm
Im a quality hashish affecionado. There is ( and was the past months) actually no trustworthy bulk quality hashish seller on the road... maybe leckermann? I have an eye on him.
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: h345jsfs943 on October 12, 2012, 01:35 pm
Thanks for info :)

Hoping someone serious are gonna show up anytime soon, want to make money.
Have been checking out leckermann too, and I'm testing 4 other vendors at the moment aswell (I'll post after i recieve something).

For smoking supplies, cigarillos and baggies i recommend smokeables, got what i ordered in 10 days, and thats
from USA to NOR, pretty quick :) also no bad communication, and he is putting together an custom order for me :)

I'll update you if i hear more from djabbar.

Regards
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: bluesclues on October 21, 2012, 01:12 pm
30+ days here, no package. Ordered with track and trace, and he sent me a non-working tracking number...

Trying to get a full refund, this is BULLSHIT.
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: h345jsfs943 on October 27, 2012, 03:45 pm
Stay away from djabbar!!

Nearly gone 60 days here no package, i FE'ed so i lost $600, learn't my lesson the hard way ;)
Seems like nearly half of the hash vendors on SR are selectively scamming, or scamming everyone.

Reliable people so far:
Smokeables (Cigars and blunts)
GanjaMan (hash)
CharasBros (hash)
and that is of 7 orders i have places, only those 3 people shipped the products!

have not recieved anything i ordered from:
Djabbar
Tolstoi
JungleSpice
LiveFromSweden

Title: BOSS TOP SELLER
Post by: BOSS1 on October 28, 2012, 12:48 pm
hi, I'm BOSS.

alpacino old profile, but cheated a person, 100% refund.

with me customers are well today and pay tomorrow oz your package is shipped, even in escrow for all customers

go to the profile BOSS
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: over_done_soup on October 28, 2012, 06:39 pm
Most post I see about Djabbar and not getting packages are from people with under 10 posts  ( no offense here)

i smell shite here too, djabbars rating as a seller is contuing to grow and can vouch for him for small to big orders, never had a order go missing to date, and he does tracking if you dont trust him.

fuck off trolls, this thead is worthless
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: h345jsfs943 on October 28, 2012, 10:23 pm
How about instead of taking any sides in this you can stay neutral and keep your "reviews" for djabbar for yourself, you dont know anything that has happened in this case, and just flaming me for no reason, calling my thread worthless, makes me believe you're not even old enough to surf these websites.

There's nothing i can do about my small post count except post on the forums, and i'm not here to spam neither scam, so i'll only post in topics relevant to my interests, but trust me, i'm gonna stay here untill i either go to prison, die or get too old for this shit.

Djabbar actually did rip me off $620, i FE'd for him because of his reviews (wich can be very easy to fake sais the forums, wiki and buyers guide), also because it was my first purchase on SR, but i actually though he was a straight up guy.
I followed instructions, no messaging with vendor before 15 days, i asked for refund or reshipment, he told me to wait 2 more weeks, i did and still didn't recieve any package, the only thing he offered me then was to double my order if i re ordered with t&t
i would have done that, if it weren't for a review on his seller profile that said he got scammed with a bad tracking # and got no answers from djabbar.

Anyways, READ the WIKI, READ the BUYERS GUIDE, and READ the FORUMS guys, even the buyers guide tells you to report a vendor if he asks to go outside the escrow system (include all proofs).
Dont trust anyone but yourself and the escrow system, dont take things for granted, ask questions, be strict but (always) try to be polite.
If the seller dont allow escrow and/or tries to go outside the system, dont gamble your money, just report the vendor, wait or go look for for another trustworty vendor.
Believe me or don't believe me, i dont really care.
I'm here to buy products, make money, and of course put in good words for the good sellers, you dont HAVE to like me, but let's be grown ups.
Business is business and personal is personal.

Regards
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: over_done_soup on October 28, 2012, 10:50 pm
How about asking djabbar if he would honour  the deal he is offering within escrow this time, im sure he will agree, then you can come out of this happy and have some faith in him as a good seller on SR.

Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: HASHhead123 on October 29, 2012, 07:38 am
I am not stalking you O.D.S lol
DJABBER has been a total gentleman to me from the start, i was one of his 1st customers when he started as a vendor on sr,
and he has literally bent over backwards to help me, i have never lost a package yet, never a selective scammer, why would he?
look at his inventory, and he has everything on that list in stock, i know because i have had every item on the list in bulk amounts
all went smoothly, he could prob do with more customers rather than drive them away with selective scamming someone for an oz
white widow or some com hash, THINK ABOUT IT!!!
Yes some orders did take a little longer than expected but he doesn't claim that he is the quickest and does not overcharge for delivery,
it always arrives in the end and ha never let me down.
It is scammers that have kept him from progressing as much as he should have by now. scammers have hit him a lot and spoiled it for everyone,
suck a selective scammer is djabbar that at 1st he used to send 1-2 kilo's of hash through escrow and always put an extremely generous free gift,
i once got a 10g pellet of prime caramello and an oz of morroccan hash for free, next time i got 10g of his unpressed pollen and a 100g plaque of hash free, i never bothered asking for more freebies from him after that because i felt that he had proved his appreciation of my business,
not long after i noticed the sr ghouls were out in force and a lot were claiming no shows with orders, basically his kindness was mistaken for weakness so he had to adopt a more business like attitude and drop the mr nice bit and i done blame him.
i know this guy very well and he is 100% just like 75% of sr he just wants good honest business.
the people cant wait a couple weeks without resorting to the "selective scammer" line should be sentenced to 1 month of being a very busy vendor
without making profit, kinda like community service for sr, they would soon learn to wait and hold their tongues.
within 2 months his whole setup will go thru an overhaul and any issues that can be sorted will be.,
right i am of to smoke some the oz white widow djabberr paid me to write this post.
JOKE JOKE JOKE!!! i would never do anything like that.... (for less than a qp) joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: HASHhead123 on October 29, 2012, 07:59 am
I would never buy from Djabbar... wasn't that guy that got busted some time ago?
No the busts targeted "farmers market" which included Adams flowers as one of the dutch arrested by DEA, i believe no vendor from sr was arrested in this operation
i did hear some dutch vendors from sr were among those arrested which made me feel a little sick as by coincidence i had not heard from djabbar for around 7 days, but i heard from him next day and he had no knowledge of any sr vendors in the raids.
if that is your sole reason for not doing business with djabbar then you should check the facts properly, for price to quality ratio, he is the best in the eu.
pay a little extra and get tracked sign/unsigned express delivery (usualy 5 days) it remover a lot of worry and paranoia from the process.
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: HASHhead123 on October 29, 2012, 08:21 am
Im a quality hashish affecionado. There is ( and was the past months) actually no trustworthy bulk quality hashish seller on the road... maybe leckermann? I have an eye on him.
You are not looking hard enough my friend, leckermann ok, quality average - good, but price way too high. what he advertises and what you get thru your door are not always the same quality.
sadly not many people can tell the difference, a lot of vendors do this especially if you pm them with naive questions about product or tell them that you have not had hash before etc.
Renter pm me and i will hook you up.
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: UltimateSolution on October 29, 2012, 08:39 am
Whilst I haven't ordered from Djabbar I just want to add something based on my experience here on Silk Road:

Remember that he is selling bulk cannabis from The Netherlands. That means you will be receiving a packet (Not a letter, a letter is much much less risk) from one of the highest risk countries. No matter how amazing his packaging is some are bound to get intercepted.
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: PlutoPete on October 29, 2012, 10:21 am
If Djabbar wants more customers he should allow escrow, I'd love to place an order with him but not without escrow.
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: over_done_soup on October 29, 2012, 11:57 am
I am not stalking you O.D.S lol

great minds, im sure thats what they say :)



If Djabbar wants more customers he should allow escrow, I'd love to place an order with him but not without escrow.

Hey pp, you have to build trust, i now work in escrow with djabbar, but i FE'ed a fair few times on decent sized orders untill i felt i had shown enough commitment to him, eventually asked if i could stay in escrow for future business and he gladly accepted.

Safe man.
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: PlutoPete on October 29, 2012, 03:26 pm
I am not stalking you O.D.S lol

great minds, im sure thats what they say :)



If Djabbar wants more customers he should allow escrow, I'd love to place an order with him but not without escrow.

Hey pp, you have to build trust, i now work in escrow with djabbar, but i FE'ed a fair few times on decent sized orders untill i felt i had shown enough commitment to him, eventually asked if i could stay in escrow for future business and he gladly accepted.

Safe man.
That does nothing to build my trust in him, escrow is protection for both parties and that coupled with tracking should be more than enough security for any vendor. If the tracking shows delivered to the given address there is no way that SR would not release the funds to the vendor. I don't think Djabbar is a scammer, but why should i throw away the only protection i have as a buyer?
I messaged Djabbar a while back saying i'm uncomfortable with FE and would he work with escrow and i got a reply back saying "no point, as i don't give refunds anyway", so i passed him by and spent my money elsewhere with escrow :)
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: over_done_soup on October 29, 2012, 04:01 pm
i was just outlining hes flexible once you have worked with him a few times, if your not comfortable outside escrow for any reason, thats up to yourself.

Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: h345jsfs943 on November 05, 2012, 01:06 am
But i don't feel like losing $600 "a couple" of times just for being able to use the escrow system with him, it even sais in the buyers guide to report him because of him asking to finalize early.
And even if he would let me stay in escrow, i would probably only get 50% back and no package.
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: Zulu on November 05, 2012, 01:47 am
Im a quality hashish affecionado. There is ( and was the past months) actually no trustworthy bulk quality hashish seller on the road... maybe leckermann? I have an eye on him.
You are not looking hard enough my friend, leckermann ok, quality average - good, but price way too high. what he advertises and what you get thru your door are not always the same quality.
sadly not many people can tell the difference, a lot of vendors do this especially if you pm them with naive questions about product or tell them that you have not had hash before etc.
Renter pm me and i will hook you up.

Djabbar/Hashhead123

Are one and the same gtfo
Title: Re: Djabbar, serious hash vendor or selective scammer?
Post by: bill417 on November 05, 2012, 01:52 am
The thing is though... no vendor should really demand that you FE. It's fair to say that if you've been here a while, made a number of purchases with good statistics, like myself, you should never need to finalise early again. Vendors shouldn't have any need to ask for it - people say it's because they need to clear funds. Well the answer to this is that a schedule needs to be worked out for when you can get the funds in, then buy more product, etc, etc. Remember - that's a seller - related issue, and not a problem that a buyer should "pay" for by being required to Finalise Early, which defeats the object of Silk Road's Escrow system - which I don't mind paying for considering the likes of the other Black Market Tor sites... They advise you use escrow for a reason!