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Title: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: whysoserious88 on December 18, 2012, 02:45 pm
Howdy,
  So I'm in need of some advice.  I need to find a drug that gives me a nice euporhia.  My past history is as follows

I smoked/sold weed from 15-18 I mean alot. Like a 1/8 to 1/4 a day.  I stopped when I turned 18 and haven't done an illegal drug since.  I also did some mushrooms back then aswell.

Since then I have been an alcoholic (~10 years).  I went 4 years sober at one point, but relapsed this summer. I'm now two months sober.

I use to get a great euphoria from ambien, and would take that daily, during the day, but the effect has worn off and I don't get it anymore. 

Any suggestions as to what another substance could be?

I won't shoot, snort. Cocaine and hard drugs are out of the question.  I just need a good way to get some euphoria without getting withdrawals if possible.  Being able to be discreet would be nice too.

Any advice is welcomed.
Thanks
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: Ballzinator on December 18, 2012, 05:28 pm
Maybe nitrous oxide.

EDIT:
No, that's bullshit advice now that I think about it. Nitrous oxide is addictive and you seem to have an addictive personality.
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: thecrackhead on December 18, 2012, 05:39 pm
LSD, MDMA and Mephedrone.

Pussy, kids, socializing.

Blowjobs, walking in nature, marijuana.

Do not get lost in this pursuit of happiness that actually makes all of us desperate little sluts.
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: zipstyle on December 18, 2012, 05:47 pm
Personal truth answer:
You are looking for a perfect high that hardly exists in the world of drugs. The best thing for you in this given situation is to spend time learning to meditate. With practice, one can induce euphoria quickly with meditation. Yes, it takes time and effort to learn but this is healthy, progressive, and will fulfill all the needs you have.

With regards to drugs, using drugs for their euphoric effects is a direct route to addiction.
It turns into "chasing the high".

The answer you are looking for:
With that out of the way, it sounds like the drug that would be most euphoric for you is phenibut if used in moderation. With 1-1.5 grams (yes, I mean 1,500 mg) there is relaxation, euphoria, and a sense of well-being. If you do not fall asleep, it can also provide (surprisingly) a good amount of stimulation. Also, this drug is legal and unscheduled.

You might also look into drugs like Adderall, Dexedrine, or Vyvanse as those are all somewhat euphoric stimulants. Not exactly sure what would fall into the "hard drugs" category though...

Wishing you all the best. I hope you consider staying sober and developing the potential of your mind, which is endless. Only from that is pure and infinite happiness available.

Happy Holidays!
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: BlueGiraffe on December 18, 2012, 10:01 pm
Hey whysoserious :)

I felt very moved by your post and wish to respond fully.

As an opening disclaimer I want to let you know that I am a SR vendor and that I sell GHB. I sell GHB because I believe in its profound clinical/therapeutic qualities - in addition to its obvious recreational pleasures. I'm mentioning this upfront because someone suggested in a thread I commented on a couple of days ago that I was merely (and inappropriately) promoting GHB because I was selling it. That was not true then and is not true now - but I want to be upfront and transparent before I properly respond to you.

I want to say that I feel your search and your need, and I understand it fully in my heart. And I know how deep it goes and how fundamental it is to human existence. And while I do not completely practice this myself yet, I have learned one thing about life, and it is this: Pleasure / euphoria / ecstasy / happiness (all words for essentially the same state) is INHERENT. And to be authentic and constant it needs to be discovered at the essence of who you are, rather than sought for through anything external - whether that be sex, food or a drug.

As long as you are looking for a way to induce a state of pleasure within yourself through some "external" metaphor you will be bound and controlled by that thing. And it WILL BETRAY YOU ultimately. If you can understand this - and I believe that you will resonate with I have just said immediately, because you know it is the truth - then there can be a discussion which seeks to answer your question more concretely for the moment.

Without this understanding, and your recognition that you ultimately need to find this euphoria in your own heart, you will be trapped in an endless cycle of chasing a pleasure that you can never truly hold onto.

However, if you can remember this truth, even while you still use external means to create pleasure, then your true nature will reveal itself to you in time and progressively. And you can then be more conscious in your choices about which external substance / metaphor to use - and do so as part of a process by which you begin to recover the inherent pleasure which is already your own.

So holding this knowledge close the following can be spoken:

You have a history with Cannabis and most recently alcohol (ethane hydroxide by its formal chemical name), which I sense has probably been a bit of a ride for you...

Because of your experience with alcohol (which has a particular pattern by which it induces euphoria) and also your use of Ambien (a GABA-A agonist) which you derived some pleasure from, I want to suggest that you read the content at these links:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2705225/
http://users.lycaeum.org/~ghbfaq/alcoholism.html
http://biopsychiatry.com/ghbalc.htm
http://biopsychiatry.com/ghb/authentic.html

With all the caveats mentioned in these articles, GHB may be something for you to look at in order to transition and stabilize prior to the next phase of your journey. It is important, if you choose this course, that you consent to be radically responsible with your use of it, and recognize it as a bridge to get you to a good place of balance. The state it engenders will also allow you to process all the psychological and emotional stuff that you are needing to - and in a smooth and accessible way.

Given your previous tendencies with alcohol, you will also need to be extra carefully that you do not merely substitute GHB for the alcohol. Although it is a far more benign substitute, if you merely do this you will miss the opportunity for your greatest possibility - which is to begin to live from your own inherent bliss rather than some temporary chemical-induced buzz. Kinda like getting to be drugs rather than taking drugs ;)

Once you are at a place of balance again and beginning to feel the possibilities of your own nervous system (even if only the barest thread) then you may wish to explore, if you have that predilection, using deeper healing drugs, such as LSD, Mescaline, Ayahuasca and Iboga (particularly the last two). With these you can begin to see (and then release) the patterns by which you unconsciously suppress the inherent pleasure of your own nature. And that is when is starts to get interesting!

And if deep shamanic work is not your thing then consider doing yoga, t'ai chi and/or working with a therapist who is deeply versed in transpersonal psychology. And, in fact, do these even if you do explore the psychedelics! And consider adding things such as structural integration/Rolfing (a very deep kind of bodywork) and acupuncture - all of which will support the direction you are moving in.

And throughout this process (and starting right now ideally) you need to progressively start doing all that you can to improve the functioning of your body and nervous system. In order to tolerate consistent inherent euphoria (and I use the word "tolerate" deliberately) you will need the channels in your body to be open and flowing. And as your body (nerves, brain cells, vital organs, blood and bone marrow) is built directly from what you eat, getting your diet right is fundamental to this. (I have been studying nutrition for nearly twenty years so I can assist you with this if you like - just ask.)

What you are wrestling with now is what every human being on this planet is wrestling with (each in our own unique way) - and that is how to feel utterly full, happy and blissful, in every moment, despite our circumstances. And that is ultimately what the spiritual quest and process is about. Welcome!

Talk to me more anytime brother...

BG
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: zipstyle on December 18, 2012, 10:19 pm
Beautifully put, BG.  :)
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: happyroller1234 on December 19, 2012, 01:08 am
Hey whysoserious :)

I felt very moved by your post and wish to respond fully.

As an opening disclaimer I want to let you know that I am a SR vendor and that I sell GHB. I sell GHB because I believe in its profound clinical/therapeutic qualities - in addition to its obvious recreational pleasures. I'm mentioning this upfront because someone suggested in a thread I commented on a couple of days ago that I was merely (and inappropriately) promoting GHB because I was selling it. That was not true then and is not true now - but I want to be upfront and transparent before I properly respond to you.

I want to say that I feel your search and your need, and I understand it fully in my heart. And I know how deep it goes and how fundamental it is to human existence. And while I do not completely practice this myself yet, I have learned one thing about life, and it is this: Pleasure / euphoria / ecstasy / happiness (all words for essentially the same state) is INHERENT. And to be authentic and constant it needs to be discovered at the essence of who you are, rather than sought for through anything external - whether that be sex, food or a drug.

As long as you are looking for a way to induce a state of pleasure within yourself through some "external" metaphor you will be bound and controlled by that thing. And it WILL BETRAY YOU ultimately. If you can understand this - and I believe that you will resonate with I have just said immediately, because you know it is the truth - then there can be a discussion which seeks to answer your question more concretely for the moment.

Without this understanding, and your recognition that you ultimately need to find this euphoria in your own heart, you will be trapped in an endless cycle of chasing a pleasure that you can never truly hold onto.

However, if you can remember this truth, even while you still use external means to create pleasure, then your true nature will reveal itself to you in time and progressively. And you can then be more conscious in your choices about which external substance / metaphor to use - and do so as part of a process by which you begin to recover the inherent pleasure which is already your own.

So holding this knowledge close the following can be spoken:

You have a history with Cannabis and most recently alcohol (ethane hydroxide by its formal chemical name), which I sense has probably been a bit of a ride for you...

Because of your experience with alcohol (which has a particular pattern by which it induces euphoria) and also your use of Ambien (a GABA-A agonist) which you derived some pleasure from, I want to suggest that you read the content at these links:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2705225/
http://users.lycaeum.org/~ghbfaq/alcoholism.html
http://biopsychiatry.com/ghbalc.htm
http://biopsychiatry.com/ghb/authentic.html

With all the caveats mentioned in these articles, GHB may be something for you to look at in order to transition and stabilize prior to the next phase of your journey. It is important, if you choose this course, that you consent to be radically responsible with your use of it, and recognize it as a bridge to get you to a good place of balance. The state it engenders will also allow you to process all the psychological and emotional stuff that you are needing to - and in a smooth and accessible way.

Given your previous tendencies with alcohol, you will also need to be extra carefully that you do not merely substitute GHB for the alcohol. Although it is a far more benign substitute, if you merely do this you will miss the opportunity for your greatest possibility - which is to begin to live from your own inherent bliss rather than some temporary chemical-induced buzz. Kinda like getting to be drugs rather than taking drugs ;)

Once you are at a place of balance again and beginning to feel the possibilities of your own nervous system (even if only the barest thread) then you may wish to explore, if you have that predilection, using deeper healing drugs, such as LSD, Mescaline, Ayahuasca and Iboga (particularly the last two). With these you can begin to see (and then release) the patterns by which you unconsciously suppress the inherent pleasure of your own nature. And that is when is starts to get interesting!

And if deep shamanic work is not your thing then consider doing yoga, t'ai chi and/or working with a therapist who is deeply versed in transpersonal psychology. And, in fact, do these even if you do explore the psychedelics! And consider adding things such as structural integration/Rolfing (a very deep kind of bodywork) and acupuncture - all of which will support the direction you are moving in.

And throughout this process (and starting right now ideally) you need to progressively start doing all that you can to improve the functioning of your body and nervous system. In order to tolerate consistent inherent euphoria (and I use the word "tolerate" deliberately) you will need the channels in your body to be open and flowing. And as your body (nerves, brain cells, vital organs, blood and bone marrow) is built directly from what you eat, getting your diet right is fundamental to this. (I have been studying nutrition for nearly twenty years so I can assist you with this if you like - just ask.)

What you are wrestling with now is what every human being on this planet is wrestling with (each in our own unique way) - and that is how to feel utterly full, happy and blissful, in every moment, despite our circumstances. And that is ultimately what the spiritual quest and process is about. Welcome!

Talk to me more anytime brother...

BG
My heart is enriched that people like you exist in this community.  SR is great.  ;D
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: whysoserious88 on December 19, 2012, 04:13 am
Well ty for the info, I'm at a point in my life where its make or break for me.  And if I can find something to get me through a year and a half of stuff without alot of repercutions then maybe GHB is the answer.  Does it cause hallucinations?
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: gestaltassault2 on December 19, 2012, 06:29 am
Well ty for the info, I'm at a point in my life where its make or break for me.  And if I can find something to get me through a year and a half of stuff without alot of repercutions then maybe GHB is the answer.  Does it cause hallucinations?
no hallucinations but if you drink too much of it you'll go to sleep and never wake up again....

if you want true euphoria try DMT...you'll get the euphoria of going somewhere not many humans on this planet have ever been or will ever see in their lives...
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: BlueGiraffe on December 19, 2012, 07:02 am
Well ty for the info, I'm at a point in my life where its make or break for me.  And if I can find something to get me through a year and a half of stuff without alot of repercutions then maybe GHB is the answer.  Does it cause hallucinations?

No hallucinations. Is not psychedelic at all. It's more subjectively akin to a cross between alcohol (but more balanced and clear) and MDMA (but lighter and more natural).

"Make or break" is a good place to be dude. It's where we really begin from...
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: BlueGiraffe on December 19, 2012, 07:17 am
Well ty for the info, I'm at a point in my life where its make or break for me.  And if I can find something to get me through a year and a half of stuff without alot of repercutions then maybe GHB is the answer.  Does it cause hallucinations?
no hallucinations but if you drink too much of it you'll go to sleep and never wake up again....

if you want true euphoria try DMT...you'll get the euphoria of going somewhere not many humans on this planet have ever been or will ever see in their lives...

The "if you drink too much of it you'll go to sleep and never wake up again" comment is not valid. The LD50  (or lethal dose) for GHB has been estimated at between 50g (the lowest I have seen) and 500g (and the highest I have seen). There is a documented report of one man taking 75g and living to tell the tale. It would be nearly impossible to ingest this much GHB - we're talking over 10 tablespoons! You'd be likely to die from choking more than anything else...

At recommended doses there is essentially no risk, but if you combine it with any other CNS depressant drug (including alcohol) then there are very real risks.

DMT is good for sure, but I feel Ayahuasca (orally active DMT in a traditional Amazonian brew) would be the way to go for you if you wanted to explore this.

BG
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: The Scientist on December 19, 2012, 08:25 am
LSD
LSD
LSD
LSD
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: whysoserious88 on December 20, 2012, 03:31 am
LSD
LSD
LSD
LSD

Ive dont my fair share of acid when I was touring phish, and I know that is not what im looking for. especially since im trying to be descreet. but ty
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: whysoserious88 on December 20, 2012, 03:39 am
Well ty for the info, I'm at a point in my life where its make or break for me.  And if I can find something to get me through a year and a half of stuff without alot of repercutions then maybe GHB is the answer.  Does it cause hallucinations?
no hallucinations but if you drink too much of it you'll go to sleep and never wake up again....

if you want true euphoria try DMT...you'll get the euphoria of going somewhere not many humans on this planet have ever been or will ever see in their lives...


The "if you drink too much of it you'll go to sleep and never wake up again" comment is not valid. The LD50  (or lethal dose) for GHB has been estimated at between 50g (the lowest I have seen) and 500g (and the highest I have seen). There is a documented reported of one man taking 75g and living to tell the tale. It would be nearly impossible to ingest this much GHB - we're talking over 10 tablespoons!

At recommended doses there is essentially no risk, but if you combine it with any other CNS depressant drug (including alcohol) then there are very real risks.

DMT is good for sure, but I feel Ayahuasca (orally active DMT in a traditional Amazonian brew) would be the way to go for you if you wanted to explore this.

BG


I love ya brother.  You get me, and where I'm at in my life.  Would you mind shooting me a message with just the basics of all that was said. IT sounds like GHB and maybe dmt done in a different way.  It hasn't been brought up much but what about weed? Granted it is less discrete but could it do the trick? I would want a calming one.  When I quit pot, it was SO bad that I had to go to the emergency room 3x times from insane panic attacks.  1/4 weed a day plus hash and kief I was left as a bumbling scared kid.

Anyways thanks for the info, and the good words. Anyone know of trusted vendors with GHB and DMT? and maybe sample? to see if i like it?
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: poolsclosed on December 20, 2012, 03:50 am
Seek therapy, reflect on your life, keep a journal, and try ketamine. Oh, and quit drinking - it is probably feeding into your depression.
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: Harmful Hits on December 20, 2012, 04:15 am
I chase euphoria and SR is definitely helped me out big time. So here are some drugs I would recommend for euphoria LSD, MDMA, GHB, ketamine, shrooms, and weed. Christy Nugs blue dream really causes alot of euphoria for me I suggest you try that since its just weed, you may be surprised how good it is.
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: whysoserious88 on December 20, 2012, 05:07 am
I am sober from alcohol currently. and thats the plan.  ok so GHB, DMT, and Christy Nugs blue dream
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: Harmful Hits on December 20, 2012, 05:20 am
here is a link to the blue dream

listings are down temporally because of the "sr quick buy" bullshit. This weed is the best on SR, stealth is great, ship time is fast, all around good deal every way you look at it.

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/4651f1115c
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: BlueGiraffe on December 20, 2012, 09:28 pm
Well ty for the info, I'm at a point in my life where its make or break for me.  And if I can find something to get me through a year and a half of stuff without alot of repercutions then maybe GHB is the answer.  Does it cause hallucinations?
no hallucinations but if you drink too much of it you'll go to sleep and never wake up again....

if you want true euphoria try DMT...you'll get the euphoria of going somewhere not many humans on this planet have ever been or will ever see in their lives...


The "if you drink too much of it you'll go to sleep and never wake up again" comment is not valid. The LD50  (or lethal dose) for GHB has been estimated at between 50g (the lowest I have seen) and 500g (and the highest I have seen). There is a documented reported of one man taking 75g and living to tell the tale. It would be nearly impossible to ingest this much GHB - we're talking over 10 tablespoons!

At recommended doses there is essentially no risk, but if you combine it with any other CNS depressant drug (including alcohol) then there are very real risks.

DMT is good for sure, but I feel Ayahuasca (orally active DMT in a traditional Amazonian brew) would be the way to go for you if you wanted to explore this.

BG


I love ya brother.  You get me, and where I'm at in my life.  Would you mind shooting me a message with just the basics of all that was said. IT sounds like GHB and maybe dmt done in a different way.  It hasn't been brought up much but what about weed? Granted it is less discrete but could it do the trick? I would want a calming one.  When I quit pot, it was SO bad that I had to go to the emergency room 3x times from insane panic attacks.  1/4 weed a day plus hash and kief I was left as a bumbling scared kid.

Anyways thanks for the info, and the good words. Anyone know of trusted vendors with GHB and DMT? and maybe sample? to see if i like it?

I love you too! And I do get you - it's a deep place and I know it well. You're truly at the best place you could ever be in your life - because from here the Truth can be found. You're not comfortable, and that is good, cause you're open...

Maybe weed can serve now, but my personal sense is this is not the moment. But answer that question yourself. Your heart knows - trust it.

For GHB, I can supply you personally (we make the best GHB in the world and have been doing it for many years). For DMT I don't know who's who yet. There should be people here who can give you a good reference. Anyone??

PM me and ask me directly and I'll answer.

BG
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: whysoserious88 on December 21, 2012, 06:43 am
I read your full listing giraffe you mention that GHB is poorly reactive to CNS depressents.  I currently am on Lexapro which is a cns depressent and a benzo/zolpidem daily which are also cns depressents.  What is the outcome of that?
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: Harmful Hits on December 21, 2012, 06:50 am
I read your full listing giraffe you mention that GHB is poorly reactive to CNS depressents.  I currently am on Lexapro which is a cns depressent and a benzo/zolpidem daily which are also cns depressents.  What is the outcome of that?

you should never take ghb with a depressant you risk passing out and your respiratory system is already slow because of the ghb and then the depressants. When you sleep your respiratory system will slow down more and this could result in a full shut down of your respiratory system.

blue is a kick ass vendor so buy with confidence but again, please dont mix ghb with depresents.
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: knexx on December 21, 2012, 06:53 am
LSD changed my life... it's the most incredible drug.

Full of good vibes, laughs, appreciation of music and art. It doesn't leave you feeling like you need to compulsively redose...

Tripping leaves me feeling creative and positive, uplifted and energetic.

Just don't abuse anything you try.
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: Harmful Hits on December 21, 2012, 06:59 am
LSD changed my life... it's the most incredible drug.

Full of good vibes, laughs, appreciation of music and art. It doesn't leave you feeling like you need to compulsively redose...

Tripping leaves me feeling creative and positive, uplifted and energetic.

Just don't abuse anything you try.

I agree LSD fuckin rules and one of the best parts is that there is no fiending or redosing. LSD can be very life changing as well and thats part of the true magic. I have had some of the best times of my life on LSD. This holloween I got some acid at like 3AM and all my friends were asleep but I was bored so I took it and i tripped nuts all night having the time of my life watching music videos on Fuze tv. I remember I was watching a flat screen LED tv and I kept thinking how vibrant the colors were. Colors become so beautiful on LSD, its like all of your life before LSD all the colors were faded then when you take acid your seeing the true beauty of the colors.
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: theupsman1 on December 21, 2012, 03:41 pm
I think you need a regular dose of cardio exercise to be honest. Take up something like running it will keep you occupied healthy and produce happiness in the body and soul, and then take a few drugs here and there to top up..in my opinion.
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: Ricky1 on December 21, 2012, 06:30 pm
Howdy,
  So I'm in need of some advice.  I need to find a drug that gives me a nice euporhia.  My past history is as follows

I smoked/sold weed from 15-18 I mean alot. Like a 1/8 to 1/4 a day.  I stopped when I turned 18 and haven't done an illegal drug since.  I also did some mushrooms back then aswell.

Since then I have been an alcoholic (~10 years).  I went 4 years sober at one point, but relapsed this summer. I'm now two months sober.

I use to get a great euphoria from ambien, and would take that daily, during the day, but the effect has worn off and I don't get it anymore. 

Any suggestions as to what another substance could be?

I won't shoot, snort. Cocaine and hard drugs are out of the question.  I just need a good way to get some euphoria without getting withdrawals if possible.  Being able to be discreet would be nice too.

Any advice is welcomed. Thanks


MDMA has healing property's most folks don't understand it, and they rarely get the drug in a pure form,  As with all drugs you need enough quantity to learn the drug, proper dosing and your tolerance, MDMA is interesting in the fact that if you use to much you will feel like shit, and if you use it to often you won't get off, so in some respects it's self regulating and non adictive. I have been successful using it every two weeks to every two months for over five years. If your going to do this I would recommend buying at least 5G and then grind and clean it with 2 or 3 dry acetone washes to remove the by products of mas manufacturing, expect to loose 15-20% of your product, you don't want that part any way it makes you sick, there are many posts on the internet on this subject and its not difficult to do.
Generally, a  130 lb female will enjoy a 150mg cap and a 80-90mg cap an hour after the first. For your first ride back it off about 20%, like I said, it takes time to learn a drug if you do to much it will make you sick. I have tried most of the other drugs mentioned in this post with little or no luck, MDMA in my opinion is the best therapeutic drug out there. And then there is this: an MDMA roll is how can I say,,,FUCKEN AWESOME!!!!  ;D

Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: OnePotMama on December 21, 2012, 08:36 pm
I am sober from alcohol currently. and thats the plan.  ok so GHB, DMT, and Christy Nugs blue dream

Just popping in to say I wish you the best with continued sobriety. I come from a (documented) line of alcoholics and 2011 - July2012 was a fucking awful time for me. Had ZERO access to bud, I abused alcohol daily, and became a hermit due to PTSD and a social anxiety disorder. I have a drink here and there now, but I really try not to. Getting buzzed/drunk now gives my body the same discomfort an oncoming panic attack does. And I hate the taste of most drinks now. It is weird, but I am thankful for it. I have since moved to a different location that is even less bud-friendly but now I have SR :) Weed is my DOC and gave me a new freedom to step back out into the sunlight, a start to finding happiness. Good luck my fellow traveler <3

- OPM 8)
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: müslix on December 21, 2012, 08:52 pm
Best thread title. ever. You need dopamine, lots of it.
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: müslix on December 21, 2012, 09:27 pm
I read your full listing giraffe you mention that GHB is poorly reactive to CNS depressents.  I currently am on Lexapro which is a cns depressent and a benzo/zolpidem daily which are also cns depressents.  What is the outcome of that?

sorry I am high, but: GHB - GABA-B, while Benzos: GABA-A, therefore it's ok (IIRC), unlike alcohol which should never ever be combined with GHB. Not that dangerous, benzos and GHB.

Lexapro - escitalopram one of the most selective SSRIs there is (according to my doc), meaning it binds almost exclusively to Serotonin receptors and nothing else. Everything that involves Serotonin to create Euphoria won't work, e.g. MDMA. Try Ritalin/dexedrine/adderall, those should give you some solid euphoria while on escitalopram (counteract benzos though and vice versa).

Lexapro is no CNS depressant. Zolpidem (like any other Z-drug/benzo) is a CNS depressant but it is a GABA-a agonist, so it shouldn't matter that much. You won't need Zolpidem on GHB anyway. Taking them together is still not something I'd recommend, although I have done GHB/GBL while (still) on benzos and I didn't notice anything unusual. I liked BlueGiraffe's GHB best, btw.


As an ex-alcoholic you may want to stay away from euphoria that somehow involves GABA. Just sayin...

IMHO: doesn't lexapro require you to drink more to get the same high (or low, non-alcohol-user here)? It will probably be the same for GHB, i.e. you may need a bit more. Take this with a mountain of salt though, be careful when mixing these drugs!
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: Theophilus on December 21, 2012, 11:32 pm
having the time of my life watching music videos on Fuze tv. I remember I was watching a flat screen LED tv and I kept thinking how vibrant the colors were.

I don't mean to be an asshole, but there's something about hearing people talk about taking acid and *watching TV* that just makes me cringe.
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: theupsman1 on December 22, 2012, 12:07 am
Is an important point being missed here, what setting do you need your euphoria in. Do you need it at home on your own, in a social environment, in a discreet social environment etc? As obviously u dont wanna be walking down the street during the day rolling hard on mdma
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: cyberscour on December 22, 2012, 02:44 am
I recommend candy-flipping, or taking LSD and Ecstasy. I did this last night and it was the happiest and most fun 8 hours I've ever had. The effects mix nicely, and you'll have the best sleep of your life after you come down.
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: whysoserious88 on December 22, 2012, 08:44 pm
Again thanks for all the input.  I already know I won't be going down the path of hallucinogens.  I am forced to lead a very professional and scholastic life presently and I know they just wouldn't fit in with that.  My time of use would be later evenings.  I honestly don't know about what my reaction would be to pot 10 years later. When I quit weed, I had some of the worst feelings I had every experienced.  Shooting/Jolts/Zaps throughout my body causing constant anxiety.  Onepotmama, its funny how similar our situations sound.  I get anxiety now from even drinking even though I'm a damn alcoholic.  The shear reality of that probably is helpful in the long run as drinking has become not very enjoyable.  Benzos don't really do anything for me, no euphoria has been found from taking xanax at any amount.  I do have an order of adderall coming in which I will try and see how I react too.  I am somewhat interested in what weed would feel like again, but then comes into play the discretion. 
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: poolsclosed on December 22, 2012, 10:43 pm
Intramuscular doses of ketamine take 2-3 hours. And the antidepressant effect is great. Ketamine has been known to treat alcoholism even. Just saying :)
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: theupsman1 on December 22, 2012, 11:05 pm
Again thanks for all the input.  I already know I won't be going down the path of hallucinogens.  I am forced to lead a very professional and scholastic life presently and I know they just wouldn't fit in with that.  My time of use would be later evenings.  I honestly don't know about what my reaction would be to pot 10 years later. When I quit weed, I had some of the worst feelings I had every experienced.  Shooting/Jolts/Zaps throughout my body causing constant anxiety.  Onepotmama, its funny how similar our situations sound.  I get anxiety now from even drinking even though I'm a damn alcoholic.  The shear reality of that probably is helpful in the long run as drinking has become not very enjoyable.  Benzos don't really do anything for me, no euphoria has been found from taking xanax at any amount.  I do have an order of adderall coming in which I will try and see how I react too.  I am somewhat interested in what weed would feel like again, but then comes into play the discretion.

I've tried dexedrine which is pretty much the same as adderall 'm not quite sure if its euphoria but it certainly makes you happier and more positive about everything and its extremely subtle no one will ever know. If your doing it in the evening though you will probably have trouble sleeping, may need some weed or something to sleep.
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: BlueGiraffe on December 23, 2012, 09:40 pm
I read your full listing giraffe you mention that GHB is poorly reactive to CNS depressents.  I currently am on Lexapro which is a cns depressent and a benzo/zolpidem daily which are also cns depressents.  What is the outcome of that?

Not ideal...

Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: BlueGiraffe on December 23, 2012, 10:21 pm
I read your full listing giraffe you mention that GHB is poorly reactive to CNS depressents.  I currently am on Lexapro which is a cns depressent and a benzo/zolpidem daily which are also cns depressents.  What is the outcome of that?

sorry I am high, but: GHB - GABA-B, while Benzos: GABA-A, therefore it's ok (IIRC), unlike alcohol which should never ever be combined with GHB. Not that dangerous, benzos and GHB.

Lexapro - escitalopram one of the most selective SSRIs there is (according to my doc), meaning it binds almost exclusively to Serotonin receptors and nothing else. Everything that involves Serotonin to create Euphoria won't work, e.g. MDMA. Try Ritalin/dexedrine/adderall, those should give you some solid euphoria while on escitalopram (counteract benzos though and vice versa).

Lexapro is no CNS depressant. Zolpidem (like any other Z-drug/benzo) is a CNS depressant but it is a GABA-a agonist, so it shouldn't matter that much. You won't need Zolpidem on GHB anyway. Taking them together is still not something I'd recommend, although I have done GHB/GBL while (still) on benzos and I didn't notice anything unusual. I liked BlueGiraffe's GHB best, btw.


As an ex-alcoholic you may want to stay away from euphoria that somehow involves GABA. Just sayin...

IMHO: doesn't lexapro require you to drink more to get the same high (or low, non-alcohol-user here)? It will probably be the same for GHB, i.e. you may need a bit more. Take this with a mountain of salt though, be careful when mixing these drugs!
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Valid comments here. Correct that GHB is a GABA-B agonist vs GABA-A for benzos - so inter-relationship may be less problematic as suggested. I do not have personal experience with benzos so cannot speak from experience on this precise matter. Sounds like müslix knows his subject matter though. Always proceed with care and do your own experimentation cautiously.

BG
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: BlueGiraffe on December 23, 2012, 11:29 pm
I liked BlueGiraffe's GHB best, btw.

Gracias :)
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: Ben on December 24, 2012, 02:25 am
I'm afraid the search for substances just stops.


There simply are not drugs that cause euphoria and are non-addictive.

I think this is a principal matter though, anything that induces euphoria is something you want to experience again. It doesn;t matter what substance you prefer, its the actual sensation of euphoria that is addictive,
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: Ballzinator on December 24, 2012, 02:59 am
I'm afraid the search for substances just stops.


There simply are not drugs that cause euphoria and are non-addictive.

I think this is a principal matter though, anything that induces euphoria is something you want to experience again. It doesn;t matter what substance you prefer, its the actual sensation of euphoria that is addictive,
Exactly. +1
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: sniper123 on December 24, 2012, 09:53 am
I'm afraid the search for substances just stops.


There simply are not drugs that cause euphoria and are non-addictive.

I think this is a principal matter though, anything that induces euphoria is something you want to experience again. It doesn;t matter what substance you prefer, its the actual sensation of euphoria that is addictive,
Exactly. +1
+2

I'm read through and I'm sure i didn't see mxe or dxm suggested. I've personally seen two people use dxm and mxe to quit drinking that had drank almost daily 10+years and they seem to get good results.

You just need to be careful to not make the mistake of replacing your previous drug use with a new one which can be hard if you're chasing euphoria. Chasing euphoria normally leads to addiction. Ben couldn't of said it better.
Title: Re: Need Euphoria Badly, Life Story
Post by: poolsclosed on December 26, 2012, 08:40 pm
I'm afraid the search for substances just stops.


There simply are not drugs that cause euphoria and are non-addictive.

I think this is a principal matter though, anything that induces euphoria is something you want to experience again. It doesn;t matter what substance you prefer, its the actual sensation of euphoria that is addictive,
Exactly. +1
+2

I'm read through and I'm sure i didn't see mxe or dxm suggested. I've personally seen two people use dxm and mxe to quit drinking that had drank almost daily 10+years and they seem to get good results.

You just need to be careful to not make the mistake of replacing your previous drug use with a new one which can be hard if you're chasing euphoria. Chasing euphoria normally leads to addiction. Ben couldn't of said it better.
I would recommend ketamine over MXE, just based on the fact that MXE is a little more addictive. :)