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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: pillbuyer on April 19, 2013, 10:29 pm
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Hi guys.
Today i received some GBL vials from Amsterdope.
Stomach status: empty :P
I dosed 1ml with a syringe and put in on a glass of water... i drink it and just waited... after 1,5 hs of pure nothing (except some sleepy feeling and ass sweating lol) i decided to measure 0,5 ml and try again... But unfortunately still nothing (this second dose i took it 1 hour ago).
So yea, my question is: what did i do wrong? Why it didnt hit me?
Thanks.
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hmm im bumping this thread hopefully someone could answer.
2 possibilities i would guess: one is that gbl is diluted and the other is that you need to take more. I dont know much about gbl but when i take ghb i need at least 2 grams to feel anything
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i tried it 3 times yesterday.
first dose: 1ml
second dose: 1,5 ml
third dose (several hours later): 2ml
i didn't feel ANYTHING :(
my friend also tried 1ml and he didnt feel anything either...
Maybe a bad batch? :/
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Can you describe the taste for us?
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Consumer vails are 99% ghb and 5ml.
Is one shot.
Take 5 ml ghb all in once.
That you have to feel.
Time that you will be ""gone"" is short.
No longer then 30 minutes.
If you think you are still able to do some grosery's shopping, be readdy to fall asleep in the supermarket.
Standing on your own 2 feet, thinking it was not so bad.
The second you wake up, you will be wondering how that could have happened...because you are not feeling anything.
It can be tricky.
When you are new, you will have to feel the feeling right.
It's easy going from feeling a little differend, from yeh maybe a little to completely gone the next second.
You can't drive. Even if you think you can, don't drive on ghb.
0.5 gbl is to little. 2 ml.
I live over there, so here in the Netherlands and see ghb all the time, but gbl never.
Not for consumption.
Only bulk usually 1000 ml or 1 liter, to make about 2 liters of ghb.
A vail of 5 ml will knock you out for 30 minutes.
After 1 hour you will be sober again.
Great drug to take a nap during lunch on the workplace.
Gbl is not illegal, nor is caustic soda and DE-mineralised water.
All gbl are legit over here.
At 70 euro for 2 liter GHB you don't have to cheat for profit.
I mean that 70 euro you need to make the ghb, will come back in 2000 euro.
Of every 5 euro vail of 5 ml is about 4,70 euro clean profit.
For 20 ml ghb you pay 10 euro over here.
Bla bla...but the answer to your question is ; you took to little.
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Actually AmsterDope doesn't seem to be selling vials of GBL, unless he's delisted it.
It doesn't make a lot of sense to sell vials of GBL either, seeing as how easy it is to convert to GHB.
If it's indeed GHB then 2ml might indeed not be enough for you, in that case try a full 5ml vial.
Had it been GBL then you should definitely have felt something from 2ml..
If it has a salty taste, then it's probably not GBL but GHB.
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tomleepdx: taste is like salty water
wasta: ok, im gonna try 3ml next time... i dont want to sleep, just want to get high :)
duffman: afaik, gbl is ghb converted to liquid
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GBL actually is more potent per ml so it should have had more effect that the equivalent GHB. But you also really don't want to be doing GBL. It's really hard on your stomach (it also melts some kinds of plastics -- it's a solvent). It's easy to convert it to GHB which is a lot less harmful. In doing the conversion you end up with more grams of GHB that the GBL you started with, so it's
really what you should do with GBL.
If you didn't get an effect from the GBL you did, I'd say it was probably fake. It would have tasted pretty damn nasty if you were drinking straight gbl. And the mls you were taking, if not diluted or totally fake, would definitely have worked. DO NOT EVER COMBINE WITH ALCOHOL!
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tomleepdx: taste is like salty water
wasta: ok, im gonna try 3ml next time... i dont want to sleep, just want to get high :)
duffman: afaik, gbl is ghb converted to liquid
GBL is not GHB converted to liquid. GBL is an industrial solvent used in a lot of manufacturing proceses that also happens to have a drug-like effect when ingested. It's really not good for you but is relatively easy to convert to GHB. Recipe can be found on Erowid. GBL 99.9% is produced in China and in Germany by BASF, and is a liquid.
GHB is commonly seen in solid or liquid form. In solid form, it's either the potassium or sodium salt form (depending on whether you use KOH or NaOH to produce it from GBL. It's commonly diluted with H20 for convenient dosing. GHB is much less harmful than GBL on your system. So, GBL is a liquid. GHB is a white powder by can be sold in either solid or liquid form. If it's sold as a liquid, the key thing you need to know is dilution. How many grams of GHB are in what volume of liquid. This stuff kills people all the time if they don't know what they are doing. Happened a lot in the US before they effectively got rid of it here. Almost impossible to get here these days. NEVER combine it with alcohol. The short answer is you can pass out, vomit and choke on your own vomit. Not a nice way to go. At big parties in the US for a while virtually every ambulance was due to combination of GHB and alcohol. And the dosage range where it has an effect and the dosage that's too much is pretty narrow. Be very careful with this drug.
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tomleepdx: taste is like salty water
wasta: ok, im gonna try 3ml next time... i dont want to sleep, just want to get high :)
duffman: afaik, gbl is ghb converted to liquid
Actually like JackBlue explained, GHB is just GBL + water and usually NaOH.
A typical 5ml vial of GHB is usually only around 2.5g of pure GHB.
So one vial will probably be enough for you, I'd be careful increasing the dosage from there as you can quickly reach your limits with this stuff.
Check out the dosages page at Erowid to get a better idea of how much to take:
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb_dose.shtml
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taste salty? sounds like GHB to me..
Why dont you message the vendor and ask him how many grams there is per vial?
Maybe he can point you int the right direction
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UPDATE: ok, i took 6 ml and finally hitted me. I tried 3 ml at first.. and after 45 mins of nothing, i took the other 3. The effects were as described (feeling like drunk and felt asleep after 1 hour or so).
taste salty? sounds like GHB to me..
Why dont you message the vendor and ask him how many grams there is per vial?
Maybe he can point you int the right direction
I did exactly that before placing the order, but he didn't know the answer to that question.
@duffman: those erowid dosages are for GHB, not GBL.
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UPDATE: ok, i took 6 ml and finally hitted me. I tried 3 ml at first.. and after 45 mins of nothing, i took the other 3. The effects were as described (feeling like drunk and felt asleep after 1 hour or so).
taste salty? sounds like GHB to me..
Why dont you message the vendor and ask him how many grams there is per vial?
Maybe he can point you int the right direction
I did exactly that before placing the order, but he didn't know the answer to that question.
@duffman: those erowid dosages are for GHB, not GBL.
Indeed because everything seems to be pointing to the fact that it's GHB and not GBL..
It's plausible that you didn't feel anything from 3ml of GHB but you should definitely have felt 3ml of GBL.
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Well I'm sorry to hear your vendor was horrible with communication. If you plan to order more GHB in the future I would highly recccommend the GHB from BlueGiraffe. His GHB is spectacular! and he has a couple of threads about dosing with his GHB and other FAQ, he will usually answer within 2 or 3 days at the most. His shipping is a little slow (to the US) but his product and stealth make up for it!
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I'd just like to chime in and echo the good advice about being careful with this stuff. I OD'd on this a few years ago,I did too much combined with E and coke and a bit of alcohol too on a big night out,the guy who was measuring it out gave me too much basically,although ultimately it was my stupidity that caused it. I'm a big boy and take responsibility for my actions.
I was comatose for around 6 hours, I can't remember a thing of course but was told after that people were really worried about me ( not enough to take me to a hospital tho!)my breathing became very shallow apparently. A close thing really so please take care with it.
I found out later that GBL is used as an alloy wheel cleaner,stands to reason it's not the safest thing to drink really!
SF
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its not reallu a wheel cleaner just sold as such ;)
also want to add that no one should take ghb or gbl when not knowing the amount per ml or whatever.. i od on that shit and i was foaming and getting violent and pissed myself really really respect this stuff.. do not mix with opiates benzos or alcohol or any other downer pls stay safe
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try ghb instead!