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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: DrGonzo on May 30, 2012, 05:43 pm
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So I'm about to have 4-acO-DMT, I want it to move fast. I should have samples coming soon, first, how much should I sell it for to sell it very fast, and second how many of you guys would actually buy it?
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anyone?
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I would definitely be interested in purchasing some, for the right price.
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I want this shit to move like hotcakes! Whats the right price?
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$20-$30 a gram? i am not that familiar with 4-aco although i really want to try a bit... feel bad taking all these samples from you with no bulk orders yet though :o
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the prices on the SR for grams are 179.00, and 280.00. I am thinking of selling it for around 80.00 any takers?
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Huh? I thought I would get a better reception
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i take 3 grams for 200 if you send it to EU, and 4-acO-DMT is of good quality:)
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I will let yall know when I got it.
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Will you be offering anything above 1g? (ie. 10g, 50g, 100g) I think SR needs some 4-aco for cheap, the current prices are ridiculous.
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yes I will if there is a market for it.
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I would buy a gram first to check the quality but there is definitely a market for bulk. :)
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1. Is it fumarate or HCL?
2. Will you be offering any amounts lower than 1 g?
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We would need to know if it is fumarate hcl or freebase as the potency can vary greatly.If I recall it goes freebase,HCL, then fumarate from most to least potent.Dont Quote me on numbers but I believe it is approx 87% by weight in HCL and 81 with fumarate compared to the freebase.However people say the freebase degrades very fast.However I have not noticed any degradation in mine.If kept in a dry dark cool place it should be fine IME.As far as 80 a gram goes......if it is pure and the freebase you could put me down for at least 2 of them.Also anyone with any doubts about DrGonzo,I received some of his M1 samples.Not only were they pure but they were way overweight and shipped super fast.
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I would definitely be interested in purchasing grams for $80. When do you think you will have it listed?
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it is fumarate. My distributor said the freebase is a liquid and impossible to ship.
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If you ship to Australia I would be keen.
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hopefully by the end of next week!!
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Im still waiting on the other things you said you would give me samples of.... Let me know when you get those shrooms and that other thing we talked about on the main site...Ive never done 4-aco so i dont think i could give a good review...
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I await a SR listing. ;D
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shroom havent panned out sorry
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shroom havent panned out sorry
Well ill just keep checking your threads like ya told me bud... Hope all is well!
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Definitely interested in procuring this and any other research chemical I can get my hands on.
As with any obscure RC I'd start first by selling doses at 15-20 bucks each, maybe a little less and let interest build from there.
RC's can be tricky to sell as opposed to street drugs because you can't exactly douse a bag of pure mxe (or in this case 4-aco-DMT) with baking soda lol.
Good looks and watching this thread @_@
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I believe in educating yourself before trying any drug. I also don't believe in cutting anything.
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Guess What guys, its my 1 month silkroad birthday and you know what that means!!!!!! FREE DRUGS!!!!!! I will be giving out free samples of Methylone and 4-acO-DMT this weekend!!! so keep an eye on my threads for the link!!!! 8) Much love!
Dr Gonzo.
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Cant wait. Keeping an eye out for this one. :)
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Guess What guys, its my 1 month silkroad birthday and you know what that means!!!!!! FREE DRUGS!!!!!! I will be giving out free samples of Methylone and 4-acO-DMT this weekend!!! so keep an eye on my threads for the link!!!! 8) Much love!
Dr Gonzo.
Always a pleasure Gonzo
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EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT!!!!
DR GONZO 1 MONTH SR BIRTHDAY SALE!!! METHYLONE LESS THAN 20$ A GRAM 3 DAYS ONLY!!!
I will be rocking this sale through the weekend only!! I will have single grams of M1 for 20 dollars and I will have 5 and 10 gram bags for less than 20 dollars!!! and as always shipping is FREE!!
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Here is a link to my profile, http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/9c92c4c489 if you buy 5 or 10 grams I will throw in a free bonus!!!
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The 4-acO-DMT Has arrived!!! now im just waiting to hear back from my guinea pigs!!
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Great, ccant wait. Let us know how it goes
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Hey gonzo was wondering if i was still being a guinea pig or is that a no go...
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Guinea pigs survived. Reports are very good!! listings and samples should be up today 8)
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hmm. i could scoop up a g or two.
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here is a link for the samples I listed them for 1 btc to cover the shipping http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/25f3d42a43
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Samples? What price did you finalize on?
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95 a gram :) half gs for 60.00 quarter gs for 30.00 100 mgs for 15.00 and 50mg samples for 5.00
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If you're selling it for that much less than the going rate on SR, you should prove that it is indeed the substance in question. Post regular Gas Chromatography results with date etc on your user profile. If you want to move the shit like hotcakes, you have to prove its not an inferior substance you're attempting to pass off as 4-acO-DMT.
So I'm about to have 4-acO-DMT, I want it to move fast. I should have samples coming soon, first, how much should I sell it for to sell it very fast, and second how many of you guys would actually buy it?
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If you're selling it for that much less than the going rate on SR, you should prove that it is indeed the substance in question.
So if he was selling it for more, he would be more credible? o.0
I'm fairly sure the reason why he's giving samples is so people can tell it's the real deal. GC is expensive and what reason would he give for needing to use one?
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@niddynid ok if you wanna gram your price is 200.00 ;)
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damn your ACO prices are good! too bad I just got 100mg from kwiktrip for 5 btc :(
I will try a sample of yours and if it is good I will deffinatly be a returning customer at those prices
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I extended my weekend sale!!! muchlove!! Gonzo
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Hey gonzo!
I was wondering if you have one more sample?
I never tried this b4 so ;D
let me know cheers!
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you can get 50 mgs for 5 bux on my page
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I don't see a 50 mg listing, did that just sell out?
edit: also, in case I end up getting more than I can do this summer--wondering about the storage of this chemical. Is it stable enough to stay good for a long while if it's packaged up airtight w/no light or will it start breaking down in a few months?
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its pretty stable :)
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i would be interested in trying some...i dunno how this works reply and we can go from there i wouldnt be a bulk buyer but i would be regular if its what im after
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Im almost out..... Im gonna do presales on the new batch :)
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Im totally out, It will be about a week before I have more. sold like hotcakes, it really was almost too fast. on the next run I may not do the smaller amounts as it is just a pain in the ass to pack 35 envelopes in a day and I dont want to sacrifice my customer service for a few bux. so I may not do anything less than 1/2 gram at a time. what do yall think?
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Just got my sample today, 5 days after ordering on Sunday. Plan on weighing it out later and try to get some friends to test it as I can't.
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Well, actually yes. Anyone familiar with the gray / illicit substance market knows that inferior, cheaper substances are often sold as other substances with traditionally higher values. Substances that are more in demand (illicit usually), will come at a higher price point due to difficulty obtaining precursors for manufacture, and risk for possessing / trafficking said substance. When one sees someone selling a substance for a fraction of the regular price, it should at least raise suspicion. For example, when one buys a gram of cocaine HCL for $60, its fairly obvious it is either a) not cocaine or b) has been cut to shit/ stomped on. When one buys a gram of cocaine HCL for $100, its far more likely to actually contain cocaine HCL, and be of higher purity. In most cases, you get what you pay for. When questioning hallucinogens, as any experienced user knows, it is difficult to determine the authenticity of a specific substance due to the vast amount of similar potent analogs on the market. For this reason, proof of substance is generally a good idea when selling something of questionable origin.
Having said this, GC is not expensive. It takes minimal time, and most community colleges have several unused GC units sitting in storage. If you don't have access to AT LEAST a community college lab, you're probably not qualified to be 'experimenting' with research chemicals in the first place. Go back to school, and learn something.
So yes. If he were selling it for around the going rate, he would be more credible, as the price would reflect cost of producing, as well as other variables. Giving free samples of something doesn't prove authenticity of the product in question. Free samples (by way of consumer feedback) can either a) Demonstrate a subjective opinion based on a lack of experience with the authentic substance b) Mislead & Provide false information for future consumers of the questionable substance or c) Provide useful information / proof based on scientific methods. If you were to purchase a chemical substance you were planning to ingest, which would you prefer? Of course c) would be the answer of anyone with an IQ above 80. This, would be the reason for using GC. Assuring the customer that what he was buying, is indeed what he is buying. These results could possibly be faked; but once again, if you can't interpret these results in an efficient manner, you have no business "experimenting" with research chemicals in the first place. Go back to grade 10.
If you're selling it for that much less than the going rate on SR, you should prove that it is indeed the substance in question.
So if he was selling it for more, he would be more credible? o.0
I'm fairly sure the reason why he's giving samples is so people can tell it's the real deal. GC is expensive and what reason would he give for needing to use one?
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Well, actually yes. Anyone familiar with the gray / illicit substance market knows that inferior, cheaper substances are often sold as other substances with traditionally higher values. Substances that are more in demand (illicit usually), will come at a higher price point due to difficulty obtaining precursors for manufacture, and risk for possessing / trafficking said substance. When one sees someone selling a substance for a fraction of the regular price, it should at least raise suspicion. For example, when one buys a gram of cocaine HCL for $60, its fairly obvious it is either a) not cocaine or b) has been cut to shit/ stomped on. When one buys a gram of cocaine HCL for $100, its far more likely to actually contain cocaine HCL, and be of higher purity. In most cases, you get what you pay for. When questioning hallucinogens, as any experienced user knows, it is difficult to determine the authenticity of a specific substance due to the vast amount of similar potent analogs on the market. For this reason, proof of substance is generally a good idea when selling something of questionable origin.
Having said this, GC is not expensive. It takes minimal time, and most community colleges have several unused GC units sitting in storage. If you don't have access to AT LEAST a community college lab, you're probably not qualified to be 'experimenting' with research chemicals in the first place. Go back to school, and learn something.
So yes. If he were selling it for around the going rate, he would be more credible, as the price would reflect cost of producing, as well as other variables. Giving free samples of something doesn't prove authenticity of the product in question. Free samples (by way of consumer feedback) can either a) Demonstrate a subjective opinion based on a lack of experience with the authentic substance b) Mislead & Provide false information for future consumers of the questionable substance or c) Provide useful information / proof based on scientific methods. If you were to purchase a chemical substance you were planning to ingest, which would you prefer? Of course c) would be the answer of anyone with an IQ above 80. This, would be the reason for using GC. Assuring the customer that what he was buying, is indeed what he is buying. These results could possibly be faked; but once again, if you can't interpret these results in an efficient manner, you have no business "experimenting" with research chemicals in the first place. Go back to grade 10.
If you're selling it for that much less than the going rate on SR, you should prove that it is indeed the substance in question.
So if he was selling it for more, he would be more credible? o.0
I'm fairly sure the reason why he's giving samples is so people can tell it's the real deal. GC is expensive and what reason would he give for needing to use one?
yes you are absolutely right. I would only add that the unique structure of SR binds a worldwide market together with each individual submarket containing customers and buyers used to their own balance of price and demand. Your example about cocaine is irrelevant in some markets. Some users can purchase high quality coke for 30 or 40 USD per gram. Others, like you say, must fork over 100 or thereabouts. If the seller here wants to provide samples, I am sufficiently satisfied that experienced users on SR will use the sample and report back with verification of its content.
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I agree with you when you say that my example of the price of cocaine is irrelevant in some markets. The example of the price of cocaine, was a generalization of the street prices in my particular area. Obviously in places such as Colombia or Peru, the prices will be much lower, and the purity will be much higher. But the same general rule of thumb applies. If cocaine sells for 10 dollars a gram in Colombia regularly, and someone is selling it for 2 dollars a gram, it is highly suspicious.
Having said this, user reports from SR are inaccurate at the best of times. Most users of research chem hallucinogens, would not be able to tell one from the other aside from length of high vs. dosage consumed vs. intensity of trip. Why? Because most users did not have the ability to chemically test the substances they have consumed in the past for the purpose of comparison. So Johnny Sixpack, who thought he was taking 2-ci last weekend (without testing it), is comparing supposed 2-ci (which was actually 4-ac0-DMT), with some 4-ac0-DMT that he is consuming tonight (which is actually LSD). How accurate would his user report be?
Well, actually yes. Anyone familiar with the gray / illicit substance market knows that inferior, cheaper substances are often sold as other substances with traditionally higher values. Substances that are more in demand (illicit usually), will come at a higher price point due to difficulty obtaining precursors for manufacture, and risk for possessing / trafficking said substance. When one sees someone selling a substance for a fraction of the regular price, it should at least raise suspicion. For example, when one buys a gram of cocaine HCL for $60, its fairly obvious it is either a) not cocaine or b) has been cut to shit/ stomped on. When one buys a gram of cocaine HCL for $100, its far more likely to actually contain cocaine HCL, and be of higher purity. In most cases, you get what you pay for. When questioning hallucinogens, as any experienced user knows, it is difficult to determine the authenticity of a specific substance due to the vast amount of similar potent analogs on the market. For this reason, proof of substance is generally a good idea when selling something of questionable origin.
Having said this, GC is not expensive. It takes minimal time, and most community colleges have several unused GC units sitting in storage. If you don't have access to AT LEAST a community college lab, you're probably not qualified to be 'experimenting' with research chemicals in the first place. Go back to school, and learn something.
So yes. If he were selling it for around the going rate, he would be more credible, as the price would reflect cost of producing, as well as other variables. Giving free samples of something doesn't prove authenticity of the product in question. Free samples (by way of consumer feedback) can either a) Demonstrate a subjective opinion based on a lack of experience with the authentic substance b) Mislead & Provide false information for future consumers of the questionable substance or c) Provide useful information / proof based on scientific methods. If you were to purchase a chemical substance you were planning to ingest, which would you prefer? Of course c) would be the answer of anyone with an IQ above 80. This, would be the reason for using GC. Assuring the customer that what he was buying, is indeed what he is buying. These results could possibly be faked; but once again, if you can't interpret these results in an efficient manner, you have no business "experimenting" with research chemicals in the first place. Go back to grade 10.
If you're selling it for that much less than the going rate on SR, you should prove that it is indeed the substance in question.
So if he was selling it for more, he would be more credible? o.0
I'm fairly sure the reason why he's giving samples is so people can tell it's the real deal. GC is expensive and what reason would he give for needing to use one?
yes you are absolutely right. I would only add that the unique structure of SR binds a worldwide market together with each individual submarket containing customers and buyers used to their own balance of price and demand. Your example about cocaine is irrelevant in some markets. Some users can purchase high quality coke for 30 or 40 USD per gram. Others, like you say, must fork over 100 or thereabouts. If the seller here wants to provide samples, I am sufficiently satisfied that experienced users on SR will use the sample and report back with verification of its content.
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Weighed it and it was .100 grams or so like I ordered on special sample. Had a shit scale so eyeballed it (I know, I know) gave out 8 ~10 mg doses and am waiting for trip reports. I did lick the razor and felt a little something (maybe real, maybe not).
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If your scale is accurate to 3 decimal places, I wouldn't be too concerned about eyeing out 10 mg doses from 100 mgs. Although if i were you, if 10mg doesn't do anything for you, bump it up another 6-8 mgs. If you still get nothing, its cut, or not 4-ac0-DMT at all.
Weighed it and it was .100 grams or so like I ordered on special sample. Had a shit scale so eyeballed it (I know, I know) gave out 8 ~10 mg doses and am waiting for trip reports. I did lick the razor and felt a little something (maybe real, maybe not).
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Glad to hear some people tried it and it's good, I can't wait to try it. Gonzo is the man!! His methylone was boss too!
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niddynid you are obviously used to paying retail on your products. I sell bulk, therefore I buy bulk. I do not buy from fly by night street dealers. Just because you cannot get something for a certain price doesnt mean I cannot. For example I SELL bulk Methylone for around $2.50 a gram so obviously Im not paying the same as you for stuff :)
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also I can buy ounces of quality coke for around 600.00 thats $22.00 a gram. if I buy it by the Kilogram it is much much less.
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^i second that. pleeaaase can we get decent coke on here for $60/g or less? i can't justify spending 120 on a gram even if it's bomb.
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DrGonzo,
When you planning to relist? Sounds like you have a great product from the reviews.
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should be about a week before I have more :) you should check out the other great products listed on my page :)
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yep the 4-aco-dmt is legit, 20mg was a great trip man, thanks!!!
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First review is in. Given to a kid coming down off Mushrooms and it took him right back up. That's all I know for now. approx. 10mg
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Ordered 250mg from DrGonzo. Just reporting that arrived quickly safe and sound.
I was just wondering if anyone with experience with this chemical can clear something up for me. I've tried researching it and asking around, but I haven't been 100% satisfied with the answers I've received. Anyone (including DrGonzo!) know if 4-AcO-DMT is stable in a solution of water? I was thinking about volumetric dosing it, but I'm not sure if it will degrade or not. Max time I would store in a solution would be maybe 2 months.
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My friend and his gf are tripping on it right now. He says it is like a mild mushroom trip, but his gf is tripping a bit more intense. Pretty sure he has a naturally higher tolerance and will account for it in the future. Hope to get him to test the 25i Duderugs hopefully sends and compare it to LSD I just bought locally.
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I read on the bigdandy 4-aco thread, that it is more stable in a cool dark airtite container than in distilled water. it can break down in water
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Ordered 250mg from DrGonzo. Just reporting that arrived quickly safe and sound.
I was just wondering if anyone with experience with this chemical can clear something up for me. I've tried researching it and asking around, but I haven't been 100% satisfied with the answers I've received. Anyone (including DrGonzo!) know if 4-AcO-DMT is stable in a solution of water? I was thinking about volumetric dosing it, but I'm not sure if it will degrade or not. Max time I would store in a solution would be maybe 2 months.
I'm sorry I don't have a real computer otherwise I would give a definitive answer but I will speculate that storing in a solution of h20 absorbic acid (vitamin c) might reduce degradation (via oxidisation as with psilocybin?), also a tall thin container should limit air exposure assuming you do not have the means to provide a inert atmosphere! Also keep it cool as poss!
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Without giving out to many details, I have a method of moving this drug really fast. If you are still constant with the 80$ a gram I am ready to be regularly ordering...
I also read that you gave samples, this would be best for me because I don't want to buy a G just to sample...
Are you willing to send out any more samples, and how much if any will it cost?
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I'm going to need likst 10 grams of finely crushed molly just to keep the pirahnas away :D
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lols!!! Piranhas, I know that feeling!!! I think we could all use about 10 grams of dutch molly!!!
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yep the 4-aco-dmt is legit, 20mg was a great trip man, thanks!!!
For a reasonably strong trip would 20mg be enough for the average tripper, or shall I swan dive straight into the 25mg range?
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So, there will be a restock, right? This is my fav RC hands down!
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Just read through this thread can't wait to purchase some from DrGonzo!
Did anyone order into the UK from the last batch? Did it make it through?
And to reply to the last post DrGonzo said he would have more in about a week, which he posted on the 18th (Monday).
Cheers!
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8) ITS BACK!!!!!!!! Check out my profile and get your 4-aco-dmt!!!
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let me know what yall think!!!
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:) Hey DR I got your 50mg sample yesterday and while weighing it out, which very overweight by the way, I licked the scale and my fingers and just doing that sent me to a nice trip very similar to mushrooms. Hopefully this weekend I will be able to take a larger dose to really see what this chem has to offer. Thank you!
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I got my 50mg 4-AcO-DMT sample from DrGonzo in the mail yesterday and just picked it up today. It was shipped on the 6th and received on the 10th so I don't need to tell anyone his shipping is damn fast. ;) Packaging was still stellar even for a sample.. as usual. ::) Printed labels and all that jazz, looks absolutely ordinary. I can't make an argument against him, DrGonzo is just a perfect vendor so let's hope he's here to stay. Hell, I even liked his choice of stamps! ;D He was generous enough to give me 86mg weighted out after thoroughly scraping the bag, wicked right? Unfortunately you'll all have to wait a week or two on a trip report from me as I'm splitting 75mg into three 25mg capsules to take with my sister & buddy to see Finding Nemo 3-D a few days after it's released, however I did pour the remaining 10mg into my 30mg Methylone booster an hour ago which I took 130mg of earlier and I feel fucking fantastic guys! Seriously I owe you a huge thank you Dr.Gonzo, you're a swell guy. ^-^
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8) Finding NEMO!!! Hell yeah!! glad yall like my flavors!!
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well what did yall think?