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Title: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: fuckthepolice101 on June 12, 2013, 11:40 pm
These are two clearnet links to 2 documents that cryptome.org just published today

*CLEARNET LINKS*

http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/usps-spy.pdf

http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/usps-spy2.pdf

*CLEARNET LINKS*

I thought these would be relevant to the interests of the people in this forum, and give the community some insight into USPS and LE collaboration.

 8)
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: forgettegrof on June 12, 2013, 11:47 pm
It seems extremely relevent...would anyone with a vm like to quote it all?
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: gimmemoredrugs on June 13, 2013, 02:16 am
sub'd...not opening those pdfs but i would like to know what they say
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: Tessellated on June 13, 2013, 02:22 am
Interesting, thanks for the links.
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: TheGhosst on June 13, 2013, 02:24 am
Subbed
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 13, 2013, 02:25 am
Submarined
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 13, 2013, 02:45 am
with all prisoner rights BS you get Playstation, Xbox, and internet.

Where the fuck are you?  Norway?
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: P2P on June 13, 2013, 02:52 am
Read through the first one. Nothing too special, really. Just what you already knew, i.e. that if they have a good reason (an investigation, of course), they can request info on all the mail you have sent/received (at least under your name at your known address).

However, there was a really juicy sentence, of course, at the end of all of it.

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D. Commercial Mail Receiving Agencies (mail drop)
   Because mail delivered to a CMRA is generally not sorted by addressee, a mail cover will normally
   not be processed when it may unduly impact postal operations.

Try that on for size.

So maybe the Virtual Office/Private Mailbox/Mail Forwarding idea isn't so bad after all.

This, of course, provided you are trying to receive non-illicit purchases that you wouldn't want anyone finding out about. Useful information, one would think.
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: Buttercup. on June 13, 2013, 03:11 am
Thank you, P2P! I posted the text of the first in a new thread. (The second is just a "Request for Mail Cover" template: there is nothing in it that's not described in the first and the formatting makes it hard to copy here).
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: aussiepp on June 13, 2013, 04:26 am
Subn
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: HeatFireFlame on June 13, 2013, 10:29 am
with all prisoner rights BS you get Playstation, Xbox, and internet.

Where the fuck are you?  Norway?

sounds like the Uk to me.......
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 13, 2013, 10:45 am
with all prisoner rights BS you get Playstation, Xbox, and internet.

Where the fuck are you?  Norway?

sounds like the Uk to me.......

You get fucking INTERNET in prison in the UK?!?  Playstation and xbox too?!
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: daveh0we on June 13, 2013, 11:04 am
with all prisoner rights BS you get Playstation, Xbox, and internet.

Where the fuck are you?  Norway?

sounds like the Uk to me.......

You get fucking INTERNET in prison in the UK?!?  Playstation and xbox too?!
Many prisons are letting prisoners have video game consoles. 
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: HeatFireFlame on June 13, 2013, 11:14 am
with all prisoner rights BS you get Playstation, Xbox, and internet.

Where the fuck are you?  Norway?

sounds like the Uk to me.......

You get fucking INTERNET in prison in the UK?!?  Playstation and xbox too?!

Yup they do, No internet but playstation and xbox yes. There is phones and shit get smuggled in all the time by lawyers and that so i suppose they could get internet, you hear of it every now and again, "guy caught posting on facebook from prison cell"
pretty lax huh?
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: Tessellated on June 13, 2013, 04:19 pm
Thanks for posting that, I don't like pdfs.
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: BruceCampbell on June 13, 2013, 08:49 pm
Anyone mind explaining what that means exactly?
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: TheGhosst on June 13, 2013, 09:41 pm
Anyone mind explaining what that means exactly?

From what I gather; it means that the USPS is letting other agencies (NSA, DEA, FBI, etc) know that mail is property of the United States Postal Service, unless they provide 'very' sufficient warrants, probable cause, and the like; and it still sounds like the Chief Postal Inspector has final say whether or not to turn information over to such agencies.

I've long wondered if the Postal Service was going to embrace the fact that drugs through the mail are keeping their budget afloat, barely. And by letting other agencies freely take mail as evidence; that hurts their money.

*shrug*   - That's what I took from it. USPS essentially saying "Yo, guys, we know you have laws you have to serve, but uhhh... back the fuck off. We got this."
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: TheGhosst on June 13, 2013, 09:45 pm
It even says, basically, that if someone uses a fake name, then the FBI has to have proof that the person in question actually goes by that Alias, in cases of credit card fraud.

That's like saying... "Yes, we know this guy is a criminal, but... he's not hurting US... so... uhh... go get more evidence, pal!"
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: doublebaker on June 14, 2013, 01:34 am
Interesting.
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Post by: mollyexpress on June 14, 2013, 01:22 pm
Subbed.
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: meatwad on June 14, 2013, 09:19 pm
WTF is a "mail cover"?
Title: Re: Leaked USPS documents for LE
Post by: White 0ut on June 14, 2013, 09:31 pm
subd