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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Railgun on August 23, 2013, 10:56 am

Title: Chronic Fatigue and Modafinil
Post by: Railgun on August 23, 2013, 10:56 am
I've had pretty bad depression problems and symptoms, which at a large portion of this year kept me from doing much to finish my PhD. I just could not do anything but sleep. 

I am considering Modafinil as I've heard it promotes wakefulness and nootropic activity without the artificial speed and body load of caffeine and amphetamines.

Amphetamines seem to just make me feel so racy that actual comprehension is moot.

Any experience? Thank you.
Title: Re: Chronic Fatigue and Modafinil
Post by: Bluto on August 23, 2013, 11:25 am
I've been diagnosed with major depression. I've been on all the major SSRI's.

Now I'm off. One issue I've been dealing with is perpetual tiredness so I started using Armodafinil during the day and sleeping with Melatonin at night.

Yes, it works better than SSRI's but be careful of what you are also taking -avoid large doses of caffeine for instance or if you are going to really party (coke)-skip your dose of modafinil that day.
Title: Re: Chronic Fatigue and Modafinil
Post by: moonflower on August 24, 2013, 01:04 am
you should try kratom! sounds like just what you need.
Title: Re: Chronic Fatigue and Modafinil
Post by: 2L5D on August 24, 2013, 01:17 am
Provigil (Modafinil) is wonderful

I feel like I can relate to you, lethargic, down, hard to get up

but modafinil has got me up, and going strong

just dont get it on here, its not the same

i take 1 sometimes 2 a day, life is great

pm me for more info as i dont follow up much but would like to help
Title: Re: Chronic Fatigue and Modafinil
Post by: Railgun on August 24, 2013, 11:31 pm
The Modafinil on the Road is bad? Even if it's in its original packaging?
Title: Re: Chronic Fatigue and Modafinil
Post by: zvp1014 on August 25, 2013, 12:10 am
If you're looking to save some cash and not face potential legal repercussions, Adrafinil metabolizes into Modafinil and is unscheduled/legal for purchase without a prescription.
Title: Re: Chronic Fatigue and Modafinil
Post by: Bluto on August 25, 2013, 12:26 am
The Modafinil on the Road is bad? Even if it's in its original packaging?

It works fine. If you have insurance -you would pay less with a doctors signature for "Work Shift Disorder".
Title: Re: Chronic Fatigue and Modafinil
Post by: Railgun on August 25, 2013, 02:34 am
The Modafinil on the Road is bad? Even if it's in its original packaging?

It works fine. If you have insurance -you would pay less with a doctors signature for "Work Shift Disorder".

Yeah, I actually have legitimate, documented, major depression. I'll look into it with my actual Dr.

I feel as though I can work through depressed thoughts, but I cannot work through the urge to take a nap 24/7. It might as well be narcolepsy..
Title: Re: Chronic Fatigue and Modafinil
Post by: Bluto on August 25, 2013, 12:58 pm


Yeah, I actually have legitimate, documented, major depression. I'll look into it with my actual Dr.

I feel as though I can work through depressed thoughts, but I cannot work through the urge to take a nap 24/7. It might as well be narcolepsy..

The use of modafinil for treating depression is off label.  A doctor can not give you a prescription for it merely for depression. What you can do is tell them that you have "work shift disorder"

From clearnet wiki entry:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_work_sleep_disorder
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Diagnosis

The primary symptoms of SWSD are insomnia and excessive sleepiness associated with working (and sleeping) at non-standard times. Total daily sleep time is usually shortened by several hours despite attempts to optimize the sleep environment. Sleepiness is manifest as a desire to nap, unintended dozing, impaired mental acuity, irritability, reduced performance, and accident proneness. Shift work is often combined with extended hours of duty, so fatigue can be a compounding factor. The symptoms coincide with the duration of shift work and usually remit with the adoption of a conventional sleep-wake schedule. The boundary between a “normal response” to the rigors of shift work and a diagnosable disorder is not sharp.

Tell your doctor that a colleague has this same disorder and gave you a sample of his Armodafinil (I prefer it but if you want Modafinil then say it's that) -and it worked for you. Unfortunately, your friend only has a prescription for himself and you will have to get his own. This would be a no brainer for your doctor (if you have a good one).
Title: Re: Chronic Fatigue and Modafinil
Post by: Railgun on August 25, 2013, 08:09 pm


Yeah, I actually have legitimate, documented, major depression. I'll look into it with my actual Dr.

I feel as though I can work through depressed thoughts, but I cannot work through the urge to take a nap 24/7. It might as well be narcolepsy..

The use of modafinil for treating depression is off label.  A doctor can not give you a prescription for it merely for depression. What you can do is tell them that you have "work shift disorder"

From clearnet wiki entry:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_work_sleep_disorder
Quote
Diagnosis

The primary symptoms of SWSD are insomnia and excessive sleepiness associated with working (and sleeping) at non-standard times. Total daily sleep time is usually shortened by several hours despite attempts to optimize the sleep environment. Sleepiness is manifest as a desire to nap, unintended dozing, impaired mental acuity, irritability, reduced performance, and accident proneness. Shift work is often combined with extended hours of duty, so fatigue can be a compounding factor. The symptoms coincide with the duration of shift work and usually remit with the adoption of a conventional sleep-wake schedule. The boundary between a “normal response” to the rigors of shift work and a diagnosable disorder is not sharp.

Tell your doctor that a colleague has this same disorder and gave you a sample of his Armodafinil (I prefer it but if you want Modafinil then say it's that) -and it worked for you. Unfortunately, your friend only has a prescription for himself and you will have to get his own. This would be a no brainer for your doctor (if you have a good one).

+1

I actually have a Dr. that's very swift with his pen. One benefit of having him..Def will look into this.