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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: DomesticShrooms on July 01, 2012, 02:33 am

Title: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: DomesticShrooms on July 01, 2012, 02:33 am
So what do you think about staying anon as a vendor?

I think using your own connection could be suicide. As I see it there are a few options.

1. Use a yagi and hack someones internet(only this brings heat on your neighbors)

2. Go to coffeeshop everytime you message(p.i.t.a)

3. Buy a prepaid android and card with cash and install pdanet or run orbot and orweb(keep gps turned off and never use it for anything other than vending)

4. Buy a prepaid dongle with cash and never use it for clearnet or anything other than vending)


If you live in a apartment, would they be able to get you with triangulation? I mean, a cdma cash dongle seems ideal for mobility and annonaminity. 

As far as encryption and stuff goes, that seems reactionary. My goal would be to never get identified in the first place.


I think that not keeping data around is key, only run liberte live and keep bookmarks and public keys on your usb.

What do you think options 1 2 3 or 4?
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: anonaddict on July 01, 2012, 03:03 am
Option 5

The best setup would be a bootable flash drive encrypted with truecrypt. The drive would have a dummy OS (ubuntu) and the actual one you would use to hold all the info on and connect through (some form of BSD).

http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=hidden-operating-system

By using the above tutorial you could give LEO a password to gain access to the drive but it would be the dummy OS that they can boot to. NEVER give them the password for BSD... they will never find it.

Your ISP will be able to detect you using tor.

In order to hide that from your ISP you need to rent a VPS anonymously.
https://btclot.com/web/cp.php?op=vps&type=linux (just to through one out there.)
Once you have secured a VPS next you need to set up a TOR and socks proxy.
https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en
http://lifehacker.com/237227/geek-to-live--encrypt-your-web-browsing-session-with-an-ssh-socks-proxy

After that you need to set a redirect the incoming traffic to the TOR port.
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-port-redirection-with-iptables/

Here is a discussion about how to jack up the encryption on the SSH proxy
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/openssh/dev/45097

anonaddict
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: RxKing on July 01, 2012, 03:07 am
Holly fuck your paranoid.

Were not selling CIA secrets.

Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: DomesticShrooms on July 01, 2012, 03:40 am
Lol, right king?


Anonaddict, if the vendors were forced to use step five, sr wouldnt exist, so for now, 1 2 3 or 4?????
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: RxKing on July 01, 2012, 05:06 am
in other news the two people posting above me are too stupid to realize that they're doing things that'll put them away for life, and/or don't care enough to take simple steps to protect themselves

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Your ISP will be able to detect you using tor.

In order to hide that from your ISP you need to rent a VPS anonymously.
persistent bridges with protocol obfuscators are the superior option

Yes I am too stupid. I have been doing old school for over 25 years. Have never done one thing legal. Have only gotten speeding tickets and I get out of those. I have sold more drugs in the last month then you have seen in your nerdy life. You just keep buying shit from guys like me. And watch more episodes of lock up.

My post had ZERO to do with being safe and everything to do with being practical and smart.

So keep feeding this bullshit to people when the facts are STILL no one has gotten in trouble just because of SR, yes I know more then anyone in can happen and probably will. But not because of any of the reason this original poster was talking about.

Again if you like I can debate with you what can happen...but I will state what has happened...NOTHING.

Thanks nerd.

RxKING
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: RxKing on July 01, 2012, 05:31 am
Let's just assume your telling the truth about  movietnice and jootgatter and they are in lock up. It is 10000% that it has zero to do with SR.

FACT

Your right I don't know you. Do you sell on SR? Don't pull your " I am Tony Montana and I sell kilo's of coke and H".

You don't sell shit.

And cats are for pussies. I am a dog lover.


And I drive in every lane. You just happen to know about 2. And that's two more then I know about you.

Just stay lazy... Its your best look.

My only point of posting in this thread is about the things the original 2 posters put up. It  was WAY I mean WAY overboard ....that is it.

RxKing

I am done in this thread. You keep flexing Shannon. ;D
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: kmfkewm on July 01, 2012, 10:30 am
So what do you think about staying anon as a vendor?

I think using your own connection could be suicide. As I see it there are a few options.

1. Use a yagi and hack someones internet(only this brings heat on your neighbors)

2. Go to coffeeshop everytime you message(p.i.t.a)

3. Buy a prepaid android and card with cash and install pdanet or run orbot and orweb(keep gps turned off and never use it for anything other than vending)

4. Buy a prepaid dongle with cash and never use it for clearnet or anything other than vending)


If you live in a apartment, would they be able to get you with triangulation? I mean, a cdma cash dongle seems ideal for mobility and annonaminity. 

As far as encryption and stuff goes, that seems reactionary. My goal would be to never get identified in the first place.


I think that not keeping data around is key, only run liberte live and keep bookmarks and public keys on your usb.

What do you think options 1 2 3 or 4?

huh someone named DomesticShrooms is selling drugs on Silk Road, I guess your plan of never being identified failed. Encryption is more for the customers who send address than the vendor, but smart customers tell vendors who do not use GPG to fuck off.
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: trava on July 01, 2012, 11:19 am
+1 RxKing

honestly you guys way too paranoid, street dealing is alot more dangerous and that is what leo looks out for the most because neighbors and communities start to notice u, been grassed before right infront of my house........

if ur doin this through TOR nobody is gona even give a fuck about tracking you, unless someone goes to the popo and tells them all about ur activities and even then they probs be too lazy to bother

stop thinking someones constantly looking over ur back because there are thousands of bigger fishes to catch in the big lake around u


oh and joot's arrest had everything to do with his online operations. you might have heard about it, it was called "operation adam bomb"

"The Farmer's Market," as the online store was called, was like an Amazon for consumers of controlled substances, according to a 66-page indictment unsealed on Monday. It offered online forums, Web-based order forms, customer service, and at least four methods of payment, including PayPal and Western Union. From January 2007 to October 2009, it processed some 5,256 orders valued at $1.04 million. The site catered to about 3,000 customers in 35 countries, including the United States.

people used paypal no fucking wonder they got busted in the end
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: DwightEAnderson on July 01, 2012, 06:03 pm
+1 trava
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: DwightEAnderson on July 01, 2012, 06:30 pm
people used paypal no fucking wonder they got busted in the end
joot's bust had nothing to do with paypal. he used tor, gpg, and bitcoin like the rest of us. one of his workers was using hushmail which turned over emails to dhs, they then put joot under surveillance and observed him picking up a half ounce of LSD mds. then they observed him shipping out orders and got him.

And how in the fuck would you know this?  You have no idea only supposition.  Show us the evidence?
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: DwightEAnderson on July 01, 2012, 08:16 pm
i am joot's buddy?

pm me your email address and i'll email you the discovery packet presented at his bail hearing

No, a forum is for posting and the reluctance to share is disturbing.  It is not like this is private information anymore.  They have been arrested.
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: DomesticShrooms on July 01, 2012, 11:53 pm
So back to to my original post, how in the fuck would you ever figure out where I am located or who I am if I am running a cash cdma dongle? I think it is way safer than using your own connection. And who the fuck would want to go to starbucks to sell drugs?

And by the way, no one has identified me you ass.


I mean , as long as you never use the dongle on clearnet or use it for facebook, Im pretty sure you will be set.

Fact: several vendors use their own connections without vpns or bridges!
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: DwightEAnderson on July 01, 2012, 11:59 pm
You might like you if you weren't such a cunt.
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: DwightEAnderson on July 02, 2012, 12:13 am
A cunt is a cunt at any IQ.  Even yours.  Did you want me to use a word you would have to reference?  I have many of them but idiots like yourself have difficulty understanding them without a dictionary. 
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: trava on July 02, 2012, 12:30 am
people used paypal no fucking wonder they got busted in the end
joot's bust had nothing to do with paypal. he used tor, gpg, and bitcoin like the rest of us. one of his workers was using hushmail which turned over emails to dhs, they then put joot under surveillance and observed him picking up a half ounce of LSD mds. then they observed him shipping out orders and got him.

what u saying is they seen him buy drugs in the REAL WORLD and kept the surveillance on him and they just happened to noticed he was shipping items out very often and caught on

doesn't mean they tracked him through tor and SR ectttt...........

I wana see LE link a real person to a real profile on SR along with all their bitcoin transaction, then u will have my attention
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: DwightEAnderson on July 02, 2012, 01:02 am
A cunt is a cunt at any IQ.  Even yours.  Did you want me to use a word you would have to reference?  I have many of them but idiots like yourself have difficulty understanding them without a dictionary.
put down the crack, it's giving you delusions of grandeur

I will provide you with a tampon though for free !  Challenge me on ANY TOPIC and I will have forgotten more than you have ever learned slit.
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: DomesticShrooms on July 02, 2012, 01:54 am
So let me ask this then, if a anonomous cash dongle is better, then I guess I would not be a low hanging fruit?

Are you inferring they may deploy triangulation on a gsm or cdma connection?

I think it is way better than using your neighbors wifi.

Fuck, I mean i have dropped a lot of cash on a anon dongle, sealer, account, labeler, packaging, ect. But at least I feel safe right?

I just run liberte off a usb on a craptop computer and tether a cashdroid that has never had any other use than vending.

I like to think this isolation keeps me from being a "easy" target. 

as long as I keep my lips shut  and use good judgement I think low swinging westernunion idiots will take the heat,

Have you heard of a silkroader getting triangulated because his isp was leaked and they cellular provider gave up the anon. persons general location??

I feel my security is good, but now im gonna have to find a way to launder my funds......
Title: Re: VENDORS STAYING ANON....
Post by: DomesticShrooms on July 02, 2012, 02:27 am
Ah, thanks brave new world. Its refreshing to not see a bunch of flaming on here.  Yeah, id assume they would get the lax h, meth, and coke vendors first, but then again leo and t.w.o.d. Has never really made any sense. That canadian couple got popped with a tenstrip and now they got 120,000.00 bonds..lol

Yeah, my shrooms are gonna be good, they are potent little fuckers. Google peshawaiin trip reports....