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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: l1llykins on March 13, 2012, 01:21 am

Title: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: l1llykins on March 13, 2012, 01:21 am
So I ordered a sample of 2ci and there's very little info on erowid about it. I'd like to hear from some regular users; any advice is welcome. 

Are there any safety tips you can impart? What kind of dose would you recommend for a beginner/lightweight; I'm interested in a threshold/light dose.  Is there any kind of loading protocol that you found beneficial?

I'm always with my husband when I take something who prefers to stay sober and play with me while I'm rolling/tripping. So if you have any tips for him, please share!
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: ianfleming on March 13, 2012, 01:30 am
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Are there any safety tips you can impart? What kind of dose would you recommend for a beginner/lightweight; I'm interested in a threshold/light dose.  Is there any kind of loading protocol that you found beneficial?
2c-i is nice in that it requires very little preparation. It's my drug of choice, I don't drink, smoke or anything. 2c-i is all I want or need.

The only preparation would be to eat light or not at all. Go with fruit and shit, no dairy or greasy food.
Take it on an empty stomach (no food for at least 4 hours prior).
As far as dosage goes I'd say go with 10mg and then boost with another 5mg at the 2 hour mark.
The trip will last about 6-8 hours like that.
It has a 1 1/2 to 2 hour come up, so be mindful of that.
You wont really need supervision or anything as it's fairly clearheaded.

Personally I've found that while your tripping you can kick of the trip for a moment of near perfect clear-headedness, however trying to do this for too long seems to leave me confused once it catches back up. Basically, the trip will continue while you avoid it and once it pulls you back in you'll be all weird because you didn't flow with it. Just watch out trying to really push your brain too hard.

Stay home, dont overload yourself, no uptown/downtown adventuring or anything.

NO GREASY FOOD while tripping, it WILL make you ill.
NO WELLBUTRIN, if you take 2c-i and your on wellbutrin you WILL have a seizure.

Other than that I've never had any real issues, no nausea, no motion sickness, nothing but fun.
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: l1llykins on March 13, 2012, 01:33 am
What types of things should I expect taking 10mg?

Also, would you still recommend 10mg if I told you that I found 100mg of mda to be way too much (can't remember most of that night)?
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: ianfleming on March 13, 2012, 01:47 am
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What types of things should I expect taking 10mg?

Also, would you still recommend 10mg if I told you that I found 100mg of mda to be way too much (can't remember most of that night)?
Nah, 10mg (with booster) will be FINE. Most people take 15-20mg their first time.

Things will flow, you may see little sprially and/or spinning patterns in the carpet or ceiling (especially if it's a popcorn ceiling) it's REALLY empathnogenic, and you might see trails if you move your hands. Stuff taste better, lights are brighter. They say it's like mild acid (without the mind part) and weak MDMA, mixed together. It's closer to MDMA (2c-e is the same but closer to acid).

Really, it's just FUN. It's near IMPOSSIBLE to have a bad trip, it just makes you happy and feel good and close to people.

I suggest some music and Popsicle (the jollyrancher ones are great) also sweetarts brand jellybeans, FUCKING AMAZING.
Have fun.

I'll be checking back here quite regularly, so feel free to ask more questions.
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: l1llykins on March 13, 2012, 02:09 am
I suggest some music and Popsicle (the jollyrancher ones are great) also sweetarts brand jellybeans, FUCKING AMAZING.

Haha, will be sure to get some this week. If it comes before the weekend I think I'll give it a go.

I've been reading very low or no toxicity. Is this what you found? How often do you take it?

Thanks for all the info by the way, I really appreciate it!
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: ianfleming on March 13, 2012, 02:11 am
I take it at least a week apart.
As far as I know I have experienced NO long term effects.
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: l1llykins on March 13, 2012, 04:10 am
Woot, found a listing for 2cb that isn't too much more expensive than 2ci, guess I'll try the one that comes first, hehe.
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: Delta11 on March 13, 2012, 04:53 pm
Woot, found a listing for 2cb that isn't too much more expensive than 2ci, guess I'll try the one that comes first, hehe.

I love 2cb for the awesome visuals but my heart is with 2ci, the euphoria and body high is just amazing. I wouldn't go past 20mg until you've done it a couple of times. Best thing to do is lay down, put on headphones, play some music, close your eyes and go into your trip!
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: l1llykins on March 13, 2012, 05:11 pm
I thought 2cb was supposed to be more "bodily".

What dose should I go for with the 2cb?
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: Delta11 on March 13, 2012, 07:39 pm
I thought 2cb was supposed to be more "bodily".

What dose should I go for with the 2cb?

It is compared to 2ci but I feel that the main thing that makes 2cb awesome are the visuals. I would start off with 15-20mg of 2cb maybe even lower if you've never done a psychedelic before.
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: l1llykins on March 13, 2012, 08:37 pm
Just mda once ... I think I'll go for 10mg, can always do more next time.
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: l1llykins on March 14, 2012, 07:30 am
I thought 2cb was supposed to be more "bodily".

What dose should I go for with the 2cb?

It is compared to 2ci but I feel that the main thing that makes 2cb awesome are the visuals. I would start off with 15-20mg of 2cb maybe even lower if you've never done a psychedelic before.

Delta, are your brownies or cookies ok to eat while on a 2c or do they have too much fat?
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: sickboy on March 14, 2012, 07:52 am
I am surprised no one has mentioned taking 2C compounds rectally. Its really the best way IMHO. The effects are more clearly defined and the side effects like body load and "metal mouth" are not noticable.

Just last week I made a mix of MDMA and 2C-B, administered rectally, and had crazy visions. During my peak I closed my eyes and saw a rippled pattern like someone throwing stones into a sea of milk. Then a hand rose out of the milk and dipped back in a few times clutching at the surface. The hand when risen had milk pouring from between the fingers as if the palm was bleeding milk.

Anyway, it may sound crazy, but try any 2C rectally. It is way better and not just because its faster or cheaper because you take less. Its just that it feels better.
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: Delta11 on March 14, 2012, 06:05 pm
I thought 2cb was supposed to be more "bodily".

What dose should I go for with the 2cb?

It is compared to 2ci but I feel that the main thing that makes 2cb awesome are the visuals. I would start off with 15-20mg of 2cb maybe even lower if you've never done a psychedelic before.

Delta, are your brownies or cookies ok to eat while on a 2c or do they have too much fat?
Okay as in it won't give you nausea, yes. But I seriously would not do it unless you're completely comfortable with psychedelics. I also recommend not eating an edible until after you start peaking on the psychedelic because weed grabs your trip and takes off into space!
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: l1llykins on March 14, 2012, 06:08 pm
Ah ok thanks for the warning. Will have to try those brownies one of these days ;).
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: l1llykins on March 15, 2012, 10:49 pm
And the winner is ... 2c-b (even though I ordered 2c-i the day before). Ah well, can't argue with fate, lol.

I got some jelly beans and popsicles, loaded an mp3 player with classical music, and will be watching Hugo while I wait for it to kick in.
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: lsdtrees on March 15, 2012, 11:14 pm
I am surprised no one has mentioned taking 2C compounds rectally. Its really the best way IMHO. The effects are more clearly defined and the side effects like body load and "metal mouth" are not noticable.

Just last week I made a mix of MDMA and 2C-B, administered rectally, and had crazy visions. During my peak I closed my eyes and saw a rippled pattern like someone throwing stones into a sea of milk. Then a hand rose out of the milk and dipped back in a few times clutching at the surface. The hand when risen had milk pouring from between the fingers as if the palm was bleeding milk.

Anyway, it may sound crazy, but try any 2C rectally. It is way better and not just because its faster or cheaper because you take less. Its just that it feels better.

You won't be a virgin anymore after taking this tip  ;)
So do you just put it in a capsule and pop one or what? How much less do you need? What 2C's have you tried this with? (I hope I'm not the only other person on SR who's curious...  :-[ )
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: ianfleming on March 16, 2012, 01:06 am
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(I hope I'm not the only other person on SR who's curious...  :-[ )
I'm curious too
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: l1llykins on March 18, 2012, 10:24 pm
So I took some 2c-b (orally) last night. It has a pretty long come-up and the visuals were fun at first. I marveled this world map as the colors swirled like playing with liquify in photoshop.

Except I was counting on less to no visuals with some bodily sensations, especially at a threshold dose (there were none). I was cold so I think it ended up making me feel colder no matter how many blankets I was wrapped in. And eventually the CEV's started to disturb me so much that I started to stare at the map to avoid them.

I'm still debating on whether or not I want to try the 2c-i since this one was supposed to be closer to mdma and I wasn't feeling it. They also say that 2c-i has more visuals which I'm not all that interested in. I just want an mdma-like stubstance that wont put me out of commission for the 30 or so hours after come-down; mostly makes me tired and drained the next day.
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: l1llykins on March 20, 2012, 05:36 am
Alright, tossed the rest of the 2c-b and will be trying some 2c-i later this weekend.

I really hope I get some euphoria with 2c-i and that the visuals aren't too intense. 
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: ianfleming on March 20, 2012, 05:00 pm
They say 2c-i is like a mix of mild acid and mdma, but it favors the side of mdma.
2c-e favors the side of acid.

Hope you have fun, visuals are my favorite part.
Also, when you say "tossed" you dont mean you actually threw it away do you?  :o
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: l1llykins on March 20, 2012, 05:40 pm
The visuals were fun at first but it started to make me anxious when the CEV's started to get very vivid.

Yeah, I threw the rest of the 2c-b away, was only about 80mg left and was doing nothing for my husband.

So we're on to 2c-i finally. I hope it's more like mdma than 2c-b.
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: ianfleming on March 20, 2012, 07:35 pm
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Yeah, I threw the rest of the 2c-b away, was only about 80mg left and was doing nothing for my husband.
You threw away 4 doses?  :'(
Next time you decide to do that, why don't you PM me first.
Title: Re: 2CI tips for a virgin
Post by: ianfleming on March 20, 2012, 08:08 pm
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You don't even like 2c-b!
I've never tried it, how do i know?