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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: londonlondon on November 22, 2012, 06:55 pm
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ive been wanting to take something that gives visuals while maintaining a 'clear' headspace, my research lead me to 2c-b
i really want to try it but have no mates interested in trying an RC
in terms of psychs, ive only done lsd once and i took a xanax before, which seems to have offset lsds psychological effects and narrowed it down to a body high and some nice visuals
i was wondering if it would be 'safe' and worth it to try it alone? would do it in a forest or park and was thinking of doing 15-20mg as a starting dose
any thoughts? thanks guys :)
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2c-b is a great psych to start with and 2c-i as well. I think you'll be fine but just in case keep some benzos on hand but the trip at the dose never gets too intense.
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I did 2c-b for the first time on my own, 25mg and it was lovely.. certainly not overwhelming, could happily have coped with more. unfortunately I fell asleep watching the pretty patterns about 5h in, a stimulant it ain't! Enjoy!
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yes - 2cb is very clear headed and youll probably be fine - however it is a full psychadelic and its never a good idea to take psychs by yourself - you really never know. i have seen rare situations where people loose there head on 2cb for a while - you dont wanna be by yourself if that happens
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I reckon it could be nice to journey with a friend, due to your experience with psychs. Always nice to have that reflection/grounding aspect around you :) Also, I dig the empathetic and entheogenic properties of 2c-b, and love having a fellow psychonaut with me to traverse the universe with!!
If you decide to roll on by yourself, perhaps take a small amount first, say in the 8 - 15mg range. After a couple of hours, if you find you want to redose, try another 5mg, then perhaps another 5mg on top of that if you feel the need.
Also, the method of consumption for 2c-b DRASTICALLY changes the onset of the trip, as well as its intensity, so keep this in mind if you think about redosing. If you're snorting it you can be dropped straight into the trip from anywhere between 5 - 15mins, and contains a nice level of consistent intensity throughout. Plugging it can be really nice but not something I have done often due to having to carry a syringe and having a f**king sensitive arsehole ::) For me, plugging has almost no body load every time and can be quite a bit stronger than other methods, and tends to come on rather quickly as well, around the 20 - 40min mark for me. As for swallowing 2c-b, I have only ever done this a few times, and it usually took a long time to come on (1.5 - 2 hours+). My preferred method is definitely snorting it as I usually take 2c-b at raves, and I can be guaranteed an approx time frame; from being mashed to coming off it.
Have fun ;)
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Every drug, but especially psyches, treats everybody a little differently. I took 2c-b alone the first time at 25mgs and I had a blast, but some people are more sensitive to it than others. Shulgin himself took 2c-b before he went to a museum, but I'd be careful about tripping in public. I would start low and definitely have a sober friend along if I was going to trip anywhere I might encounter other people, at least until you have a sense of what kind of headspace 2c-b puts you in. It comes down to knowing yourself and finding the right setting for you, though. We're just a bunch of weirdos on the internet, only you can say for sure what's right for you.
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Alright, first we should stop saying that the "2c-x's" are research chemicals because they're not. Sorry to bust your chops. But these 2c substances have been around much longer than most of us that use them. They were synthesized at least 4 decades ago (1974), They been around for about almost 40 years now and lots of research has been done on the 2c's. They are also now scheduled so they really aren't research Chemicals anymore. LSD was a research chemical at one point and so was MDMA.
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Alright, first we should stop saying that the "2c-x's" are research chemicals because they're not. Sorry to bust your chops. But these 2c substances have been around much longer than most of us that use them. They were synthesized at least 4 decades ago (1974), They been around for about almost 40 years now and lots of research has been done on the 2c's. They are also now scheduled so they really aren't research Chemicals anymore. LSD was a research chemical at one point and so was MDMA.
I have to agree with this, and 2c-x chemicals are also relatively safe from my understanding as well
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20mg on your own should be fine, but you should do lots of reading on the effects if you do that so that you don't get worried if the confusion sets in or something.
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The effect of 2C-B are fairly mild at that dose really, you'd need to take TONS more to have any worries even without any psychedelic experience. I would advise you to have some ginger or something else to reduce nausea beforehand as I personally find there's a lot of body load with the 2C's.
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i would like to dabble in the 2c family as well are they much different trip wise than nbome? i know nbome is quite stronger ive takin acid,shrooms,cacti.any advise as what to take and what to avoid ive never tried DMT either
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need fast answer with someone with experience. So i have 2cb pill 25 mg and want to take it alone while pretending to go to sleep in the dark because my mother is nearby room. Will i be making noises or something to attract attention ? I'm also not feeling very well because ive been shooting amph 30% 1g in 2 days, abit heroin, then coke and coke + heroin. I don't feel very well because i haven't eaten much and don't want to eat but feel like i ned to well its the worst part of stims for me. So do you like talk on it or something ?
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need fast answer with someone with experience. So i have 2cb pill 25 mg and want to take it alone while pretending to go to sleep in the dark because my mother is nearby room. Will i be making noises or something to attract attention ? I'm also not feeling very well because ive been shooting amph 30% 1g in 2 days, abit heroin, then coke and coke + heroin. I don't feel very well because i haven't eaten much and don't want to eat but feel like i ned to well its the worst part of stims for me. So do you like talk on it or something ?
Take a fucking break, the drugs are not going to magically disappear. You're ruining your health, get some sleep, eat and then take the 2c-b.
You're not going to talk by yourself on 2c-b but don't take it unless you get some sleep and something to eat.
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need fast answer with someone with experience. So i have 2cb pill 25 mg and want to take it alone while pretending to go to sleep in the dark because my mother is nearby room. Will i be making noises or something to attract attention ? I'm also not feeling very well because ive been shooting amph 30% 1g in 2 days, abit heroin, then coke and coke + heroin. I don't feel very well because i haven't eaten much and don't want to eat but feel like i ned to well its the worst part of stims for me. So do you like talk on it or something ?
Take a fucking break, the drugs are not going to magically disappear. You're ruining your health, get some sleep, eat and then take the 2c-b.
You're not going to talk by yourself on 2c-b but don't take it unless you get some sleep and something to eat.
This.
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Alright, first we should stop saying that the "2c-x's" are research chemicals because they're not. Sorry to bust your chops. But these 2c substances have been around much longer than most of us that use them. They were synthesized at least 4 decades ago (1974), They been around for about almost 40 years now and lots of research has been done on the 2c's. They are also now scheduled so they really aren't research Chemicals anymore. LSD was a research chemical at one point and so was MDMA.
thats true. 2c's become popular again these days, but as you said 2c's (2c-b) and mdma were synthesized at almost the same time. from 1960-1970, so its really no rc! i always wondered why it doesn't became as popular as mdma, maybe because they had a lot of acid back then..
you don't need to worry about 2cb. if you dont overdose it there wont be any problem. i would start with a decent amount, about 25mg for first time! enjoy it;)
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I did 20mgs of 2c-b recently and it was the yin yang affect
aabsolute pleasurable godlike trip with visits from goddesses from around the world and throughout time, lovely cultural god visits from around the world, but there was just this one little spot of imperfection that I couldnt grasp but knew it was there, like my visitors were there to worship their god and were waiting for me to create the universe, but didnt know how
sounds rediculouse but thats where I was, and I was determined to satisfy hahaha
then later on I made a quantum flip and all was black ugly miserable rotten and evil, yet there was the tiniest hint of a way out, hope I guess I defined it......but it was not the world, just a tiny spot in the world
I ended the trip naked in freezing cold, thinking I had killed someone close to me thinking I was a crack head in the gutter and cofused as hell
if only could have the first part and forget the last part and 2c-b would be my favorite new drug
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I did 20mgs of 2c-b recently and it was the yin yang affect
aabsolute pleasurable godlike trip with visits from goddesses from around the world and throughout time, lovely cultural god visits from around the world, but there was just this one little spot of imperfection that I couldnt grasp but knew it was there, like my visitors were there to worship their god and were waiting for me to create the universe, but didnt know how
sounds rediculouse but thats where I was, and I was determined to satisfy hahaha
then later on I made a quantum flip and all was black ugly miserable rotten and evil, yet there was the tiniest hint of a way out, hope I guess I defined it......but it was not the world, just a tiny spot in the world
I ended the trip naked in freezing cold, thinking I had killed someone close to me thinking I was a crack head in the gutter and cofused as hell
if only could have the first part and forget the last part and 2c-b would be my favorite new drug
whats a quantum flip? i have combined 2cb with mdma, lsd, shrooms, ketamine (also with amphetamine and coke, cannabis is always included) but cant remember of doing a "quantum flip"!? i know candy-, honey/nexus-, kitty- and jedi-flip but i never heard of quantum flip!? lsd+mdma+2cb is one of my favourite combos, when adding k it gets really overwhelming because it seems like ketamine increase all the effects. stimulants wont be any good at those combos from my experience, maybe i'll add some ghb to this combination next time, but i am curious this will be a good combo - anyone tried it?
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I did 20mgs of 2c-b recently and it was the yin yang affect
aabsolute pleasurable godlike trip with visits from goddesses from around the world and throughout time, lovely cultural god visits from around the world, but there was just this one little spot of imperfection that I couldnt grasp but knew it was there, like my visitors were there to worship their god and were waiting for me to create the universe, but didnt know how
sounds rediculouse but thats where I was, and I was determined to satisfy hahaha
then later on I made a quantum flip and all was black ugly miserable rotten and evil, yet there was the tiniest hint of a way out, hope I guess I defined it......but it was not the world, just a tiny spot in the world
I ended the trip naked in freezing cold, thinking I had killed someone close to me thinking I was a crack head in the gutter and cofused as hell
if only could have the first part and forget the last part and 2c-b would be my favorite new drug
whats a quantum flip? i have combined 2cb with mdma, lsd, shrooms, ketamine (also with amphetamine and coke, cannabis is always included) but cant remember of doing a "quantum flip"!? i know candy-, honey/nexus-, kitty- and jedi-flip but i never heard of quantum flip!? lsd+mdma+2cb is one of my favourite combos, when adding k it gets really overwhelming because it seems like ketamine increase all the effects. stimulants wont be any good at those combos from my experience, maybe i'll add some ghb to this combination next time, but i am curious this will be a good combo - anyone tried it?
I don't think he's referring to mixing 2C-B with something else but rather that his trip turned went from wonderful to awful very quickly.
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taller, dont pester the would be god with childish drug cool slang
its kinda smaller
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taller, dont pester the would be god with childish drug cool slang
its kinda smaller
sry but i dont understand your post.. what you mean with childish durg cool slang?? all the diff types of flip-combos i posted? these combos are pretty common and worth to try, and nothing dangerous at right dosage;) please let me know what you mean?
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i just asked you what is a quantum flip because i don't know! is it really that hard to give ma an answer to that???!
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anywys, Ive read there is a dark scary side to 2c-b, have other people experienced this
oh yea, the good part of the trip was really sexual, the sexy goddess in European, Indian, Japanees and Javanees flavors all at once and also wih each individual godess
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anywys, Ive read there is a dark scary side to 2c-b, have other people experienced this
oh yea, the good part of the trip was really sexual, the sexy goddess in European, Indian, Japanees and Javanees flavors all at once and also wih each individual godess
i dont know why you had a bad experience, but from what i know that only happens on heavy overdoses or if you have some mentally disorder. maybe it was no 2c-b?
why are you so aggro man? i just wanna help you dude........ whats is an quantum flip?
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anywys, Ive read there is a dark scary side to 2c-b, have other people experienced this
oh yea, the good part of the trip was really sexual, the sexy goddess in European, Indian, Japanees and Javanees flavors all at once and also wih each individual godess
i dont know why you had a bad experience, but from what i know that only happens on heavy overdoses or if you have some mentally disorder. maybe it was no 2c-b?
why are you so aggro man? i just wanna help you dude........ whats is an quantum flip?
You don't have to be mentally ill to have a bad trip.
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ive got some 5meompt
i wanna see
ill check back
is there any way to squeltch the haters?
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ive got some 5meompt
i wanna see
ill check back
is there any way to squeltch the haters?
5-MeO-MiPT is great :)
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not yet its not
and i have this great big line of defense saying BA::::;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;llllllllllllllllllsssssssssssss
thats balls for the less inclined
until i get some kinda funi feeling
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then later on I made a quantum flip
When I was reading ur post at first, I was like hail yeah, whose 2cb did u have? Then later... :o
I'm jw- when u said u made a quantum flip, did u mean u mixed other drugs or just that ur trip turned bad?
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For me 2C-B is just MDMA with an awesome show for your eyes, minus the stinking comedown you get with MDMA. There is nowhere near the level of mind-rape that you get with LSD either and the visuals are totally different to LSD as well. They look more 'digital' than LSD visuals but are just as enjoyable. I would say you should sniff it as well to really feel the effects but adjust your dose to about 10mg / 15mg and go from there. A lot of people disgree with snorting the 2C's but in my mind it is the more enjoyable experience when compared to eating it.
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Alright, first we should stop saying that the "2c-x's" are research chemicals because they're not. Sorry to bust your chops. But these 2c substances have been around much longer than most of us that use them. They were synthesized at least 4 decades ago (1974), They been around for about almost 40 years now and lots of research has been done on the 2c's. They are also now scheduled so they really aren't research Chemicals anymore. LSD was a research chemical at one point and so was MDMA.
I have to agree with this, and 2c-x chemicals are also relatively safe from my understanding as well
2CB is pretty safe. I love it. PHIKAL has great info. I Did it alone, great yoga practice ensued. Highly erotic if you choose it. Some 2C's however can kill you if you OD. From what I have heard it's not pretty. Insulfating an oral size dose never a good idea until you know a chemical well and even then take care.
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Not all 2Cs are equal. Erowid lists 2C-I and 2C-E as research chemicals, but not 2C-B or 2C-C.
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I did 20mgs of 2c-b recently and it was the yin yang affect
aabsolute pleasurable godlike trip with visits from goddesses from around the world and throughout time, lovely cultural god visits from around the world, but there was just this one little spot of imperfection that I couldnt grasp but knew it was there, like my visitors were there to worship their god and were waiting for me to create the universe, but didnt know how
sounds rediculouse but thats where I was, and I was determined to satisfy hahaha
then later on I made a quantum flip and all was black ugly miserable rotten and evil, yet there was the tiniest hint of a way out, hope I guess I defined it......but it was not the world, just a tiny spot in the world
I ended the trip naked in freezing cold, thinking I had killed someone close to me thinking I was a crack head in the gutter and cofused as hell
if only could have the first part and forget the last part and 2c-b would be my favorite new drug
What the fuck did you take? It doesn't sound like 2C-B at all to me and I want some.
Also, I'm loving all the confusion over the quantum flip.
DON'T TELL THEM THE SECRET!
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so would a 25mg dosage be good for first timer? take on empty stomach? would i be alright by myself ? thanks