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Title: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: noosemagnet on June 29, 2012, 05:51 am
do any of you practice it? i'm just curious.

personally, i dabble with periods (days, weeks, sometimes two weeks) of sobriety. i abuse intravenous drugs for days or weeks and then i feel extremely guilty and i get worried i'll get addicted and i think about all the money i've blown so i stop for a week or two. lather rinse repeat.

what do you do when you're not using drugs?

i'm an unemployed loser so i post a lot of blogs (lacking substance) and play videogames. videogames are a great distraction

xoxo
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: blackend646 on June 29, 2012, 06:21 am
I practice it because the drugs I like to do can't be done every day unfortunately. But not like I'd be able to afford that anyway.

I do pretty much the same shit when I'm sober as I do when I'm not, I just enjoy it less.
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: NeuroRelativizer on June 29, 2012, 07:19 am
I practice sobriety when there's no getting around it. I'm usually up on a tasty sativa.
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: Limetless on June 29, 2012, 07:26 am
I'm too cool to be sober.  8)
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: Gary Oak on June 29, 2012, 07:44 am
I'm only sober at family gatherings (I count drinking as being sober), other than that fuck sobriety. I'm a pussy that can't deal with the stress of everyday ordeals. :)
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: aligibbs on June 29, 2012, 07:50 am
I've had periods of sobriety but my most used drug is weed so it doesn't really feel like it counts. I was in hospital for a long time and while there I couldn't do any of the drugs I really wanted but they gave me a steady supply of medications (including benzos) so that probably doesn't count either.

I've had periods where I just can't get any, some lasting for months. When I'm sober I spend a lot of time learning things (so I read a lot of stuff), doing creative things [playing music, writing, etc], or spending time with my friends. I spend a lot of time writing when I'm on drugs and then when I'm sober I go back and write it into coherent literary pieces (I'm a writer). But you just need to find something you like to do. If you're really crawling the walls I find socializing or being in nature makes it easier.

Also, perhaps you could do some short training courses in your sober times to make yourself more marketable for a job? (excuse the assumption that this could help - for all I know you could be a doctor or something, but you know what I mean!)

I've thought about taking tolerance breaks but then I think "fuck it".

It kind of sounds like you're struggling and maybe you want to try and be sober for a while?
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: noosemagnet on June 29, 2012, 08:30 am
I practice it because the drugs I like to do can' be done every day unfortunately. But not like I'd be able to afford that anyway.

I do pretty much the same shit when I'm sober as I do when I'm not, I just enjoy it less.
This is fairly true for me as well, though most of the time I smoke weed errday.

noosemagnet, do you find yourself thinking about those drugs in the time you're sober? I can imagine it takes a lot of willpower to IV on and off like that, I don't ever use needles but from experience most people tend to binge for months or years then get a reprieve, or don't stop. And how does your tolerance go, I'd imagine it gets up by the end of a binge but is it back to 0 after your breaks?

yeah, i think about drugs constantly. when i first discovered silk road i'd just browse and browse and browse the drug listings, now here i am in the forums haha.

it does take some willpower to not iv, but i'm motivated by the desire to not completely fuck up my life, you know?

i'm on the larger side so i have a tolerance plus that can be a pain in the ass, and it seems that the tolerance never goes down for me. i need more  heroin every time i do it to get a buzz, despite not having an addiction to it. my therapist (lol, my therapist) says if i want to go back to complete normal i need to lay off the drugs for three whole months. i'm going to get around to doing that one of these days.

by the way, did you get my response to the message you sent me? it was the first message i ever received on this site and, it said it was sent but i went to "sent items" and there was nothing there. i was gonna message you back just to make sure but i'll see if you see this post first.
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: 34tuforlunch on June 29, 2012, 08:35 am
I usually smoked weed 3 times a week when I have it which is often, I dont drink more than 3 beers in a night and I usually use drugs about once a month, sometimes more sometimes less.
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: noosemagnet on June 29, 2012, 08:38 am
I've had periods of sobriety but my most used drug is weed so it doesn't really feel like it counts. I was in hospital for a long time and while there I couldn't do any of the drugs I really wanted but they gave me a steady supply of medications (including benzos) so that probably doesn't count either.

I've had periods where I just can't get any, some lasting for months. When I'm sober I spend a lot of time learning things (so I read a lot of stuff), doing creative things [playing music, writing, etc], or spending time with my friends. I spend a lot of time writing when I'm on drugs and then when I'm sober I go back and write it into coherent literary pieces (I'm a writer). But you just need to find something you like to do. If you're really crawling the walls I find socializing or being in nature makes it easier.

Also, perhaps you could do some short training courses in your sober times to make yourself more marketable for a job? (excuse the assumption that this could help - for all I know you could be a doctor or something, but you know what I mean!)

I've thought about taking tolerance breaks but then I think "fuck it".

It kind of sounds like you're struggling and maybe you want to try and be sober for a while?

i have been struggling a bit, more a few months ago than now. i was doing a little bit of meth (i HATE meth but sometimes i just can't say no :/) and that was really messing with my head. i've been saying no to it lately though, because i know the consequences are terrible for me.

i wish i could smoke weed, it would be so much healthier than the stuff i do! but it makes me so unbearably paranoid i can't stand it. :(

i did two courses in business admin last year (i dropped out of the higher one towards the end, unfortunately, but i gained a lot of skills.), i figured it would be really useful because i'm great with computers and programs like word etc. i'd like to get some kind of office job some day but i'm just in a bit of a slump.

gosh you guys are great to talk to! XD
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: Raoul Duke on June 29, 2012, 09:02 am
sobriety bores me, but sadly it's necessary for my job :(

generally if i'm not working - i'm not sober :P
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: 34tuforlunch on June 29, 2012, 09:13 am
Noose try find a hobby or something you like that kills time and requires you to be sober. Worked for me when I was younger you end up forgetting about drugs all together if you can find something else to do that you really love.
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: noosemagnet on June 29, 2012, 12:19 pm
I practice it because the drugs I like to do can' be done every day unfortunately. But not like I'd be able to afford that anyway.

I do pretty much the same shit when I'm sober as I do when I'm not, I just enjoy it less.
This is fairly true for me as well, though most of the time I smoke weed errday.

noosemagnet, do you find yourself thinking about those drugs in the time you're sober? I can imagine it takes a lot of willpower to IV on and off like that, I don't ever use needles but from experience most people tend to binge for months or years then get a reprieve, or don't stop. And how does your tolerance go, I'd imagine it gets up by the end of a binge but is it back to 0 after your breaks?

yeah, i think about drugs constantly. when i first discovered silk road i'd just browse and browse and browse the drug listings, now here i am in the forums haha.

it does take some willpower to not iv, but i'm motivated by the desire to not completely fuck up my life, you know?

i'm on the larger side so i have a tolerance plus that can be a pain in the ass, and it seems that the tolerance never goes down for me. i need more  heroin every time i do it to get a buzz, despite not having an addiction to it. my therapist (lol, my therapist) says if i want to go back to complete normal i need to lay off the drugs for three whole months. i'm going to get around to doing that one of these days.

by the way, did you get my response to the message you sent me? it was the first message i ever received on this site and, it said it was sent but i went to "sent items" and there was nothing there. i was gonna message you back just to make sure but i'll see if you see this post first.
Haha yeah mate, was going to reply but I fucked off for a few hours after posting here, I'll hit you back soon  ;) Definitely sounds like you've got one leg in addiction (but well aware of it) but you're doing a lot better than most. You should have a look at the thread "quitting your drug of choice", really good read and it sounds like it'll do you good, having a therapist is probably the best support you could have at the moment.

Oh yeah and there's somewhere in settings you can set it to save them, I kept forgetting whether I'd replied to people or not as well.

oh good, glad i didn't message you back, i woulda felt like a dipshit. lmao

yeah i guess you could call it addiction. i prefer to refer to it as "pathological misuse", it somehow makes me feel better.

i am constantly analyzing my thoughts and my feelings and trying to determine how i feel or if i'm addicted to drugs so yes! well aware indeed. and that's great. can't be anything wrong with that. if i end up in a gutter shooting smack into my eyeballs i will know exactly how i got there, it won't be a surprise.

i'm in a way better place than i was in the earlier months of this year though. :)

i'ma make some coffee and check out that thread now. ty!
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: noosemagnet on June 29, 2012, 12:27 pm
Noose try find a hobby or something you like that kills time and requires you to be sober. Worked for me when I was younger you end up forgetting about drugs all together if you can find something else to do that you really love.

i find getting really involved in a videogame is a great way to escape reality without doing drugs, but other than that and blogging i don't have many interests. lol

i definitely don't have any healthy hobbies!
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: saffron on June 29, 2012, 12:27 pm
WHAT NO WEED,lol,i cudnt go a day without a joint,what am i on about ,i cudnt go a friggin hour,lmao
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: Enemy of the State on June 29, 2012, 04:07 pm
Sobriety is far too overrated. I have days I use and days I don't use. Some days I use one drug, some days I use multiple. 'Sobriety' is a 'life choice' to abstain from intoxicants. Fuck that. Life is too short and there is too much to to experience. Addictions can wreak havoc and make sobriety necessary for some I suppose but I try to check my shit and stay free.

Back in the day I was addicted to coke and alcohol but I don't mess with either today. I do however enjoy a number of other substances.
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: aligibbs on June 30, 2012, 08:15 am
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Sobriety is far too overrated. I have days I use and days I don't use. Some days I use one drug, some days I use multiple. 'Sobriety' is a 'life choice' to abstain from intoxicants. Fuck that. Life is too short and there is too much to to experience. Addictions can wreak havoc and make sobriety necessary for some I suppose but I try to check my shit and stay free.

+1 this is how I think about it now!

Noose - I'd just set limits and try and take up some hobbies. Maybe a sport or something that can give a similar high (rock climbing, extreme sports) or any exercise (the endorphin release might give you a bit of a boost). Or just get out the house a bit - when I used to be crawling the walls for something and couldn't get hold of anything I'd just drive around in my car with some of my favorite music, sometimes for hours and hours. Really works, particularly if you live somewhere where there's something to marvel at!

Seems like you're aware of your use though, which is important. I think the worrying thing is that you don't seem to be enjoying life and/or engaging with it. It's easy to retreat into yourself with drugs and then it's easy to have a bad day and think "fuck it" and slam it instead of smoke.

I'm intrigued what your therapist's view is? Do they think you're addicted?
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: noosemagnet on June 30, 2012, 09:32 am
no, he doesn't, probably because i have said to him directly "i'm  not addicted" and he's like no, but you have a big substance abuse problem. he also wants/is pushing for me to go to a seven day detox program at some rehab place followed by two weeks of therapy stuff every day. i'm not against that, as it can't hurt, but i don't think i really need it that bad. i think my problem is that i'm privileged and spoiled and lazy and if i really try i CAN stay off drugs for three months and moderate my intake in future.

i dunno, i'm a bit obsessed with the idea that one can use recreationally. haha.



to the person who said sobriey is a life choice (i can't see your nae from here, lol), yeah, you're exactly right. i should have picked a better word to describe what i meant. :3
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: aligibbs on July 01, 2012, 08:58 am
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no, he doesn't, probably because i have said to him directly "i'm  not addicted" and he's like no, but you have a big substance abuse problem. he also wants/is pushing for me to go to a seven day detox program at some rehab place followed by two weeks of therapy stuff every day. i'm not against that, as it can't hurt, but i don't think i really need it that bad. i think my problem is that i'm privileged and spoiled and lazy and if i really try i CAN stay off drugs for three months and moderate my intake in future.

I had an almost identical experience a couple of years ago. I was seeing a therapist and she kept wanting me to come into this facility for therapy (I had depression and anxiety) and a 'drug break'. It did help, although I ended up being there a lot longer than the original 2 weeks suggested. And I was off "drugs" for months because of it, but they put me on tablets so swings and roundabouts. But following that I stopped all my meds and gave myself a true few months drugs break.

I was also obsessed with using recreationaly before I went in. I was consciously aware of how much I was using and what I was using and the time of day I was using - "is using at 8 on Sunday morning recreational?" "Does wanting to do xyz before going to see my parents count as recreational?" etc. I was always much more concerned with the taking and the circumstances surrounding the using than I was with a particular substance (i.e. I didn't crawl the walls with needing a particular hit/feeling but rather more conflicted about when and where was appropriate use). But I definitely use recreationaly now and am much more chilled out about it and life in general is a lot better.

I think you should go for it! If you want to PM about it feel free!

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i think my problem is that i'm privileged and spoiled and lazy and if i really try i CAN stay off drugs for three months and moderate my intake in future.

Also, you shouldn't talk about yourself this way. it won't help your cause :) - whomever has put those thoughts into your head is an asshole!

Good luck man! :)
Title: Re: Sobriety. (lol)
Post by: noosemagnet on July 01, 2012, 01:27 pm
hahaha so much of that is so relatable.

"is doing drugs at 8am on a sunday recreational? hmm, i've been up for days so it'a okay" lol

i'm the one who put those thoughts in my head... i think!