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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Edawg420 on July 23, 2013, 09:32 pm

Title: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: Edawg420 on July 23, 2013, 09:32 pm
I know there are many posts but i wanted a genuine topic that has views from both sides.

For starters i bought 100x2mg Rivotril (clonazepam) from StevePharma.

I have popped 5 pills equivalent to 10mg of clonazepam.  Now i do feel loopy and chill but nothing like i would if i ate

5x2mg Xanax Bars.  I mean that should would know me the fuck out.

2 questions, first does the Roche company follow a high standard like USA companies do when creating componds.  And if so, is this just the feeling imma get for the next 10-18 hours from k pins?

Cuz quite frankly, xanax is WAY better.
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: BruceCampbell on July 23, 2013, 09:36 pm
I'm not trying to do any vendor bashing but what country did the clonazepam come from? because Roche clonazepam is heavily counterfeited. 10 mg of legit clonazepam would cause me to black out for about two days.

(cough India/Pakistan)
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: Edawg420 on July 23, 2013, 09:47 pm
yeah it is pakistan manufactured.  Anyway i can for sure check?>

Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: BruceCampbell on July 23, 2013, 10:19 pm
You can send them off for analysis to dancesafe.org for about $40 in the US. I stopped stocking Indian and Paki meds for a reason. There's just too many bunk pills out there.

I'm afraid from what you described your pills are very likely bunk and possibly made of talcum powder and orphan tears. I recommend sending one off for analysis and confronting the vendor if you have the money. 10 mg of clonazepam is equivalent to 10 mg of alprazolam, so you should have gotten rather folded off 5 pills.
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: Ben on July 24, 2013, 01:16 am
I'd agree on that. Unless you have extreme tolerance to benzo's, a dose of 10 mg of either alprazolam or clonazepam should severely affect you, probably to the point of passing out.

Clonazepam is generally as potent as alprazolam, but the effects last quite a bit longer. If you are knocked out until morning from 10 mg of xanax, you should probably expect to be knocked out until afternoon taking the same amount of clonazepam. Not that i'd recommend doing either :D
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: BruceCampbell on July 24, 2013, 01:33 am
I'd agree on that. Unless you have extreme tolerance to benzo's, a dose of 10 mg of either alprazolam or clonazepam should severely affect you, probably to the point of passing out.

Clonazepam is generally as potent as alprazolam, but the effects last quite a bit longer. If you are knocked out until morning from 10 mg of xanax, you should probably expect to be knocked out until afternoon taking the same amount of clonazepam. Not that i'd recommend doing either :D

10 mg of clonazepam would have me black out after about 2.5 hours and I'd probably spend the next two days wondering why I'm either in jail or how I ended up in Canada again with some jetski keys in my pocket and a bag full of human hair...
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: b0lixtrader on July 24, 2013, 09:21 am
I know there are many posts but i wanted a genuine topic that has views from both sides.

For starters i bought 100x2mg Rivotril (clonazepam) from StevePharma.

I have popped 5 pills equivalent to 10mg of clonazepam.  Now i do feel loopy and chill but nothing like i would if i ate

5x2mg Xanax Bars.  I mean that should would know me the fuck out.

2 questions, first does the Roche company follow a high standard like USA companies do when creating componds.  And if so, is this just the feeling imma get for the next 10-18 hours from k pins?

Cuz quite frankly, xanax is WAY better.
It's probably because they're fake.

10mg of klonopins is more potent then 10mg of xanax.  MG vs MG clonazepam is stronger and you would be well feeling it throughout the whole day and even till the next day.
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: TorXic on July 24, 2013, 10:47 am
and that's why I have more doubts to order prescriptions than drugs...
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: b0lixtrader on July 24, 2013, 08:27 pm
and that's why I have more doubts to order prescriptions than drugs...
If you order from Eastern Europe, they are more than likely to be real.

The ones that are sold in the US are mostly fake ones imported from the Middle East and India.

Maligan and Kobrivoje are real deal.  I think benzosource is real too as his stuff is from serbia.
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: Tony_Perkis on July 24, 2013, 09:51 pm
just going off the assumption we are talking about two legit pills of each respective substance in equivalent doses, I would prefer alpraz. Kpins are more of a downer type of high, where as xans seems somewhat energetic for me personally at least if taken in moderate doses.
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: mrmoonman on July 24, 2013, 09:55 pm
Yeah K-Pins should have lit your ass up, to do a little test, maybe take a drink/shot of alochol and they should affect you multiplied by a few X..or smoke a bowl. I remember taking a couple 2mg kpins and the chick I had over said I was sleeping with my eyes open...only time thats ever happend. Then of course I woke up and had sex with her in front of her friend. Cuz I was high and relaxed as a MF!! :)

Yeah Kpins knock you out, but if done moderately its relieves me of all anxiety from whatever may cause it. I can think clearly, Xannax on the other hand, 1mg fucks me up nicely but as you said Tony, I am more up.
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: Edawg420 on July 26, 2013, 01:53 pm
Yeah so no bs, i took 2-3 2mg clonazepams.  They where mare in Pakistan ad are still in the blister packs.  I did feel loopy but no where close to Xanax.

My xanax use consists of dosing 2-3 2mg bars at once.... as i like to feeeeeeeel it... lol do i just gave a high tolerance, or did i get bunkafied.
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: b0lixtrader on July 27, 2013, 12:30 am
Yeah so no bs, i took 2-3 2mg clonazepams.  They where mare in Pakistan ad are still in the blister packs.  I did feel loopy but no where close to Xanax.

My xanax use consists of dosing 2-3 2mg bars at once.... as i like to feeeeeeeel it... lol do i just gave a high tolerance, or did i get bunkafied.
Most likely they are fake and under dosed.

However, klonopins don't hit you hard like xanax.  It creeps up on you slowly.  Whether or not you take a high dose of xanax or klonopins that's too much for your tolerance they will both do the same in the end which is make you black out.  You tend to stay awake on klonopins and do things you wouldn't do because it has hypnotic properties, much like staying awake on ambien.  Also klonopin has a way longer half life and it grows longer the higher dose you take.
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: Ben on July 27, 2013, 12:49 am
They are different substances ofcourse.

Personally i find that the onset of xanax is more sudden: take one and about half an hour later suddenly notice the effects, even on things like muscle tension in your legs. For me the onset of clonazepam seems slower, even when using the flavored kind that 'melts in your mouth'.

This does not mean that clonazepam is less potent though, if you wait to see the effect after 2 hours or so clonazepam is somewhat stronger per mg as an hypnotic. As an anxiolytic i'd say it doest matter all that much, although clonazepam has a tendency to stop you from doing what you needed an anxiolytic for in the first place ;)
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: broken string on July 27, 2013, 01:15 am
Yeah, klonopin is not a very fun drug IMO. Xanax can be very enjoyable for me at smaller dosages. Clonazepam makes me feel silly and drunk. Go GABA agonism!
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: Garrincha on July 29, 2013, 12:22 am
Some people say that Xanax has anti-depressant qualities, for a benzo. I probably find lorazepam more effective in this regard though.
I'd say that clonazepam beats valium, in terms of long acting benzos. More euphoric, less depressing. Comparing it to Xanax is hard though because they're different types of benzo.
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: Edawg420 on July 31, 2013, 06:09 am
Ok so i took 20x2mg Cpins, and i feel loopy at best.  Is this shit bunk or am i just addicted to xanax?
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: Edawg420 on July 31, 2013, 06:32 am
Sorry 10x2mg C-pins...feeling woozy at best.
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: Baraka on July 31, 2013, 07:16 am
If they were real you wouldn't be conscious.

Sorry 10x2mg C-pins...feeling woozy at best.
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: Garrincha on August 02, 2013, 06:18 pm
I used to do 6-8 clonazepam, and that was a very high dose. How many Xanax do you normally take?  ???
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: Edawg420 on August 02, 2013, 10:00 pm
Honestly, i get like 75-100 2mg Xanax and i party hard for like 1-2 weeks straight usually not remembering anything cuz i eat like 4-6 bars at a time.

So my buddy was like get cpins instead so i did.  but they are Roche made and not USA pharms so i am nervous they are fakes/weaker.

I id take like 8 yesterday, and i felt quite nice... took a nap and smoked a joint... IDK maybe i am just a Xanax head.
Title: Re: clonazepam vs alprazolam
Post by: Garrincha on August 03, 2013, 06:51 pm
Are there many fake pills about on SR? I got some Lorazepam recently and they don't seem very strong. Could be my poly-drug use though!  ;)