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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: BlueGiraffe on January 17, 2013, 10:23 pm
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Personally I don't agree with the 50 post rule to be able to post on the main forums. It's been done to slow down the spammers but I believe there could have been more elegant ways to accomplish this.
That said, it is what it is for now, so I've created this thread where people with less than 50 posts can still post questions and comments about GHB in general and our product in particular. I will watch this thread and reply regularly.
For reference, our main GHB Information, Best Practices and FAQ Page is here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90582.0
Any questions (not already covered in the FAQ) please ask away! And if it's a decent question or comment I'll give you some karma too :)
BlueGiraffe
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Just chiming in to say that BG's GHB is the tits, and you shouldn't be buying from anyone else if you care about purity, as you really should with this product.
GHB is everything that alcohol is, except better and with very little chance of having a bad night. Plus, no hangover! In fact, you sleep like a baby and wake up feeling awesome.
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Just chiming in to say that BG's GHB is the tits, and you shouldn't be buying from anyone else if you care about purity, as you really should with this product.
GHB is everything that alcohol is, except better and with very little chance of having a bad night. Plus, no hangover! In fact, you sleep like a baby and wake up feeling awesome.
(bow)
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Was looking at your GHB the other day and planning an order once funds get into SR. Can't wait to combine it with the amazing MDMA Ive got right now!
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Was looking at your GHB the other day and planning an order once funds get into SR. Can't wait to combine it with the amazing MDMA Ive got right now!
I think you will enjoy ;)
BG
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Once you get to 50 posts our Vendor Feedback and Review Thread is here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=110447
BlueGiraffe
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I havnt tried your GHB yet, but I got into GHB lately and must say, I really like it. But it´s rather a stay-home-and-chill drug to me. At clubs I got really really tired.
I also like the fact that I sleep well and have no hangovers, but my night us usually over after 4,5 hours. I wake up and cant get back to sleep.
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Shit, I didn't even realize I don't have 50 posts. Thought my account got locked.
Anyway, thanks for being an awesome vendor and delivering good products to the masses. I'll definitely post a review after trying.
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Quick question:
Where I live it is possible to buy liquid GHB, but not the powder form. About how much powder would it take to equal 1ml of liquid, assuming the liquid is fairly pure?
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I havnt tried your GHB yet, but I got into GHB lately and must say, I really like it. But it´s rather a stay-home-and-chill drug to me. At clubs I got really really tired.
I also like the fact that I sleep well and have no hangovers, but my night us usually over after 4,5 hours. I wake up and cant get back to sleep.
GHB is a depressant euphoriant, so yes it can make you tired if you take a lot. But if you take it in moderate doses with a stimulant, entactogen or psychedelic, it is awesome to dance on - and can actually be very "up" if you dose it right.
Falling asleep on a large dose of GHB can cause rebound waking 4-5 hours later on. The way to manage this is to take a slightly lower dose, or take a high dose but build it up slowly instead of taking a large single dose (and this is more pleasurable in any case).
BG
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Quick question:
Where I live it is possible to buy liquid GHB, but not the powder form. About how much powder would it take to equal 1ml of liquid, assuming the liquid is fairly pure?
It's not a perfectly answerable question - as it depends entirely on the dilution ratio of the liquid G - and it could be anything technically. Some people dilute 1g in 5ml - which I think is somewhat common. But really it's impossible to say. Whoever is selling the liquid should be able to tell you straight (assuming they're on it).
Of course if the liquid was made as a liquid, and has never been a powder, then it may be a little harder for the vendor to tell.
BG
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I gotta say Mr. Giraffe, you make a very convincing argument! :-) I'm going to look at your vendor page and think about making a purchase.
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I think i'd like me some GBH. I'll have to look into this.
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Just wanted to come in here and thank BlueGiraffe for the great GHB!
It's exactly as advertised - I'm on 2g right now taken within the last hour and am definitely feeling it. Have been getting over a cold recently so it's been nothing but OTC cold meds for me during that last week (no booze or anything else).
Very excited to see how this can work with other stuff I have, especially MDMA, since I'm always looking for harm reduction and comedown avoidance with that.
Thank you again BlueGiraffe!
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What's the tolerance like with GHB? Is it something you could use twice a week without a noticeable tolerance buildup?
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I think i'd like me some GBH. I'll have to look into this.
GHB (not GBH) please... :)
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Even regardless of the product, the after sales support and general drug knowledge you provide is awesome! I'm betting you've convinced a lot of people to give GHB a whirl.
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Just wanted to come in here and thank BlueGiraffe for the great GHB!
It's exactly as advertised - I'm on 2g right now taken within the last hour and am definitely feeling it. Have been getting over a cold recently so it's been nothing but OTC cold meds for me during that last week (no booze or anything else).
Very excited to see how this can work with other stuff I have, especially MDMA, since I'm always looking for harm reduction and comedown avoidance with that.
Thank you again BlueGiraffe!
You're most welcome my friend!
BG
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What's the tolerance like with GHB? Is it something you could use twice a week without a noticeable tolerance buildup?
In my experience you can use 2-3 times a week without tolerance.
BG
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if you mixed powderd G into distilled water would the liquid get thicker as it does when cook on a stove?
Lets say 200G into 1L?
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Even regardless of the product, the after sales support and general drug knowledge you provide is awesome! I'm betting you've convinced a lot of people to give GHB a whirl.
a few... ;)
BG
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if you mixed powderd G into distilled water would the liquid get thicker as it does when cook on a stove?
Lets say 200G into 1L?
It would "thicken" the water a little (by a very tiny amount) - and give a very slight oily / viscous texture.
BG
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If you have any interest in us providing Changa, Iboga and San Pedro please could you let me know here http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=126335.0
Thanks,
BG
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Cheers to BG for including a free scoop with my order!
To save myself a bit of weighing in future I measured out 1 flat topped 2ml scoop and found it was approx 1.3g; so if anyone else lacks scales and wants to do it that way, there's your baseline.
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Cheers to BG for including a free scoop with my order!
To save myself a bit of weighing in future I measured out 1 flat topped 2ml scoop and found it was approx 1.3g; so if anyone else lacks scales and wants to do it that way, there's your baseline.
Thanks yellowwallpaper,
In practice (depending on how the spoon is shaken or how compressed the powder is in the spoon) this can vary between 0.75 g and 1.35g. The 1.3g means the powder was relatively compressed. Always good to calibrate personally in each case.
BG
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GHB FTW
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A big and hearty THANK YOU from BlueGiraffe to all our clients - who have all become friends!
Today was the first day that we were ranked in the Top 10% of vendors on Silk Road.
It feels like our birthday and it is all due to your amazing support!
As an acknowledgement and a thank you to all of you - until midnight UTC April 7th, all GHB orders from 50g to 500g (with the relevant code) will receive an additional 50% free product added to their order. Simply place the code BLISSEDOUTBLUEGIRAFFEPOD in the address field and we'll take care of the rest :)
Love to you all...
BG
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Ok BG, you convinced me. Awesome informative posts by the way. First though, what is best to mix the GHB with? I've heard water but could a bit of juice work just as well? Thanks
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iv heard of people doing ghb after mdma to bring back their high and help with the comedown, but what about ghb for a few hours and then mdma?
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Hey BG,
Been reading for a while about GHB and have been very very interested in purchasing, yet I'm having a hard time buying BTCs as I just moved recently. Would LOVE to take advantage of your BLISSEDOUTBLUEGIRAFFEPOD promotion but I doubt I'll be able to get the BTCs sorted by tomorrow, hopefully next week. Any chance of an extension :/? If there's anything that can be done please PM me.
Anyhow, to my questions:
1. What would be a decent amount to purchase for, say, a 2 month supply? (I know this is VERY subjective question, but in your highly trusted opinion, what would you recommend)
2. How do the anti-depressive properties from GHB compare/differ from those of Ketamine? Could you possibly comment as to how they weigh against each other? (I know you are an expert with GHB and perhaps not at all on K, but I'm taking my chances in asking the question as it really sparks my curiosity that both drugs have claims that they are great for this purpose. Just want to add that I have tried K a handful of times for recreational purposes at low doses, not k-holing, but not at the sub-threshold dose that's recommended for taking advantage of these anti-dep properties.)
That's all I have in mind for the moment, I'm certain if you address these more questions will come up haha. Thanks mate.
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Ok BG, you convinced me. Awesome informative posts by the way. First though, what is best to mix the GHB with? I've heard water but could a bit of juice work just as well? Thanks
Personally I like to use water - I enjoy the taste, but juice is fine also.
BG
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iv heard of people doing ghb after mdma to bring back their high and help with the comedown, but what about ghb for a few hours and then mdma?
In my experience it does not work as well taking MDMA after GHB - normally much better MDMA first then GHB. But by all means experiment...
BG
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Hey BG,
Been reading for a while about GHB and have been very very interested in purchasing, yet I'm having a hard time buying BTCs as I just moved recently. Would LOVE to take advantage of your BLISSEDOUTBLUEGIRAFFEPOD promotion but I doubt I'll be able to get the BTCs sorted by tomorrow, hopefully next week. Any chance of an extension :/? If there's anything that can be done please PM me.
Anyhow, to my questions:
1. What would be a decent amount to purchase for, say, a 2 month supply? (I know this is VERY subjective question, but in your highly trusted opinion, what would you recommend)
2. How do the anti-depressive properties from GHB compare/differ from those of Ketamine? Could you possibly comment as to how they weigh against each other? (I know you are an expert with GHB and perhaps not at all on K, but I'm taking my chances in asking the question as it really sparks my curiosity that both drugs have claims that they are great for this purpose. Just want to add that I have tried K a handful of times for recreational purposes at low doses, not k-holing, but not at the sub-threshold dose that's recommended for taking advantage of these anti-dep properties.)
That's all I have in mind for the moment, I'm certain if you address these more questions will come up haha. Thanks mate.
Can't do an extension my friend. It's a rule I stick to with these kind of things. So sorry...
To answer your questions:
1. Very subjective question! And impossible to answer really :) Totally depends on how you're using it. Daily as an anti-depressant or partying on weekends. Are you sharing it? Etc etc... Get a 100g, good size stash to have.
2. I do have extensive experience with Ketamine, but all high dose use. I do not know about the efficacy of taking sub-threshold doses for depression. Doesn't strike me that it would be effective in the way GHB is.
BG
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what dosage does it take for a girl to forget we hooked up?
There is no dosage of GHB that removes memory of waking events. It's not that kind of drug.
BG
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what dosage does it take for a girl to forget we hooked up?
There is no dosage of GHB that removes memory of waking events. It's not that kind of drug.
BG
i mean like how do i use it to get laid, like how much do i put in her drink?
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just tell me
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what dosage does it take for a girl to forget we hooked up?
There is no dosage of GHB that removes memory of waking events. It's not that kind of drug.
BG
i mean like how do i use it to get laid, like how much do i put in her drink?
Ask her how much she'd like in her drink. And then put that much in.
BG
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BlueGiraffe, I can't thank you enough! I'm a 28 year old male. When I was 17, I started drinking. After my first taste, I was hooked. Since then, I've been drinking about 1/2 bottle of 80 proof/40% hard liquor (in the US I think a bottle is 750ml, not sure if it's the same in the UK where you are) on work days and 1/2 a handle (I think a handle is 1.75 liters) on days off. I start drinking, on days off, as soon as I wake up and continue until I go to bed. I also frequently wake up to pee, and then I have a few more sips before going back to bed. On work days, I drink as soon as I get off and I also frequently call in sick so I can stay home and drink.
Recently, I started to have some abdominal discomfort/pain. I also experienced something else strange: I had just one shot and immediately threw up. I haven't puked since I was 18 or 19. I don't have health insurance so I couldn't see a Dr. I did some research, and my best guess is that I have alcoholic hepatitis or full blown cirrhosis. I also read about famous folks who have died of alcoholism. One of my idols, Jack Kerouac, died of alcoholism. He was taken to the hospital because of abdominal pain and promptly died. I had always planned on drinking myself to death, but when it got real, I realized that I wanted to live.
At this point I did some research. I had tried substituting benzos for booze, but tolerance built up too quickly. Then, I realized that booze and benzos both mediate their effects through the GABA-A receptors (booze also works on other receptors, but that's a subject for another day.) Then, I found out that GHB works on the GABA-B receptors (amongst others). I realized that if I alternated benzos with GHB, I could avoid building a tolerance to either.
So far, my abdominal pain has diminished and I haven't had a drink. I'm hoping it will go away entirely.
Still, booze is my all-time favorite drug. Nothing in the world compares to that first drink--the narcotic euphoria, the warm, cuddly sensation that emanates from my stomach through out my entire body, the feeling that nothing matters...I prefer alcohol to sex, to friends, to work...the only thing I like more than booze is being alive. I would sacrifice anything for a drink, anything except my life. I feel I've gotten to the point where I can choose either life or alcohol, but not both. If I keep drinking, I will probably die very soon.
In my opinion, nothing compares to alcohol (and I've tried everything under the sun from LSD to Ketamine to opiates of all types to cocaine etc.), but GHB and benzos at least allow me to keep my life.
Thanks BG--for your helpful tutorials, your excellent product, you great customer service, and for risking your own freedom to supply me with medicine. I credit you, in part, for saving my life.
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what dosage does it take for a girl to forget we hooked up?
There is no dosage of GHB that removes memory of waking events. It's not that kind of drug.
BG
i mean like how do i use it to get laid, like how much do i put in her drink?
If you're asking about trying to rape somebody please dont post on these forums asking how. Its people like you who bring all the negative attention onto this wonderful GHB :)
Thats being said, I apologize if thats not what you meant. GHB can be used to intesify the sexual experience for both of you and can give her better orgasms and works as an aphrodiasiac from what ive heard.
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BG or others - i dont find it ever produces any sort of pro sexual effects. ive only ever used bg's ghb though
i always took it to the level my vision was altered like i was drunk - do higher dosages remove the pro-sexual effect for most users? should i be using less?
its certainly good for promoting restful sleep! apart from timing considerations due to the "party before the sleep" effect i get it definately would outdo benzos used responsibly
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BG or others - i dont find it ever produces any sort of pro sexual effects. ive only ever used bg's ghb though
i always took it to the level my vision was altered like i was drunk - do higher dosages remove the pro-sexual effect for most users? should i be using less?
I don't always feel horny on ghb, sometimes I just get sleepy. But the other week, hubby and I were both having trouble sleeping and dosed with some ghb. He had a much harder time falling asleep so I thought I'd help with a hand-job (I was falling asleep, it was the best I could offer!). In any case, he starts getting so aroused that he starts moaning. This in turn starts to excite me and before I know it I'm rolling my face off. I didn't even think I could roll on ghb like that!
So I'm thinking it's an issue of setting. If you're already romantic or slightly aroused, ghb can build on that. But if you have nothing, it has nothing to enhance. Anyway, that's what I got out of that one experience. I haven't had a chance to test it since but let me know if you do.
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Hi :) I'm SilverFox. I'm working with BlueGiraffe. I'm just posting to say that Cosette is perfectly correct in her very eloquent post... GHB needs you and your lover together to enhance the Love-Magic-Sex feelings. You need to kindle the flames and GHB will make it into a raging bonfire. ;)
SilverFox
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when the ghb has started to rain moisture but isnt slush yet what can be done to dry it out... VERY low heat in a oven? im not sure sunlight is going to make much of a difference the way it seems to retain moisture
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BlueG and friends ...
My love and I are considering GHB ... a first for both of us.
My love takes 750 APAP (I believe that's 750mg) vicodin 2-3x daily for pain. How long after a Vicodin would they need to wait before a GHB experience? We do NOT want to combine in any way. In fact, we want to make sure that we don't inadvertently potentiate any vicodin still in the system.
THANKS!!
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Dear blue furred long necked friend,
I never read much about GHB before acidentally seeing your thread and I got VERY curious. You seem to provide us fellow SRes a very nice powdery way of feeling good and I have to try it.
Relatively safe, sort of like alcohol but without hangover and some sexy effect? Count me in!
Unfortunately, due to having some not so cool times lately, I've been taking 150mg of Venlafaxine daily for some time by docs reccommendation. I started with 75mg and it was fine, I even lasted a little longer, wich was nice. When I increased to 150mg it decreased my libido a little, not so cool but probabbly gonna keep on it for a little longer to see how it goes.
Is it safe to take GHB while taking Venlafaxine (or any other SSRI/SNRI)? Anything else I should know about the mix or it wont have any interaction?
Peace,
BG. (whow, just realized we've got the same initials!)
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Hey BG,
I made my first ever international order with you yesterday!
This was after tasting the GHB that was domestically available, the quality left more to be desired.
I hope your product meets my expectations. ;)
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Is it ok to mix ghb with ketamine?
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Is it ok to mix ghb with ketamine?
I think I read in this thread that mixing G and ketamine is bad.
In general if you shouldn't mix a drug with alcohol, you shouldn't mix it with GHB.
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Hey BG, i've never actually used GHB before and am really interested in trying your stuff. Just wondering how i should go about doing GHB for my first time??
very interested in trying with MDMA aswell, but yea I really would like to know how to take the powder (e.g. dilute it or not?) and how much of it?
regards!!
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Love the high. Subtle, social, erotic and very enjoyable.
Pina Gabana:)
Take the summer on with a nice buzz.
Cream of coconut, pineapple juice and one half banana, blend it up and mix two gram GHB in.
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Hey BG, i've never actually used GHB before and am really interested in trying your stuff. Just wondering how i should go about doing GHB for my first time??
very interested in trying with MDMA aswell, but yea I really would like to know how to take the powder (e.g. dilute it or not?) and how much of it?
regards!!
Please practice due diligence before using GHB, there is plenty of information on the internet.
The recommended recreational dose is 1.5g but do your research.
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Hello Everyone and Every One! :)
Firstly, my apologies...
I have not been on the forums at all for some months as I've just not had the bandwidth to run the whole customer service and order process, and also maintain an active presence on the forums. And of course there is all the rest of Life apart from Silk Road that requires attention and responsibility.
I have truly missed our conversations and I am very happy to be back! And a big thank you to all of you (you know who you are) who have maintained the integrity and professionalism of this little corner of the SR Forums. I am very grateful...
I am happy to report that the reason I will now be able to be active on the forums again is because the lovely SilverFox (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;u=68424) has joined our team to manage the customer service and order processing cycle :)
Some of you have probably already met here. She is experienced, competent and capable and truly a delight to work with (chosen out of thousands!) and I am certain you will have an excellent experience with her. She is one of us. (If you want to know a bit more about this lovely lady... http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=156118.0)
Furthermore, I am also pleased to report that the recent time away has allowed me to expend some energy on creative R&D in the lab. The fruits of this labour are two-fold:
1. We will, within days, be listing a 50/50 Na/K GHB (balanced mix of Sodium and Potassium GHB salts)! We are very pleased with our results. Potassium GHB is more hygroscopic, is a bitch to crystallize properly and has significantly lower yields than Sodium GHB, but we have perfected our process and have produced a beautiful dry white fluffy powder (of exquisite purity of course) that is a joy to handle and take. I will discuss more about the benefits and subtle distinctions of this product shortly in another post. (Na-GHB and K-GHB are not the same thing!)
2. We are in an advanced stage of set up to be able to supply consistently large volumes of the finest, full-spectrum, balanced Mescaline complex the world has ever seen. Right from soil and water specification and quality control, through excellent and time-tested cultivars of both T. pachanoi and T. peruvianus, sacred cultivation methods, and highly conscious and attuned extraction protocols, we are putting this one together with utmost care. As above, I will be making a dedicated post and new thread about this product shortly. Suffice to say, this will be the absolute business!! (And did I mention how exquisitely Mescaline and GHB combine?? Well I will soon - they like each other very much ;))
I will be starting to work through all the posts that require a response (though I see that many of them have been covered better than I could have!) and I wish to thank those of you that have been waiting, for your patience and indulgence...
Love and Blessings to you all!
Your BlueGiraffe
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Pina Gabana:)
Take the summer on with a nice buzz.
Cream of coconut, pineapple juice and one half banana, blend it up and mix two gram GHB in.
Going to try this :) Thanks
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Is it ok to mix ghb with ketamine?
I think I read in this thread that mixing G and ketamine is bad.
In general if you shouldn't mix a drug with alcohol, you shouldn't mix it with GHB.
Are you saying it is bad to mix ketamine with alcohol?
I always have a beer while doing bumps of ketamine..
Is this dangerous?
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Is it ok to mix ghb with ketamine?
I think I read in this thread that mixing G and ketamine is bad.
In general if you shouldn't mix a drug with alcohol, you shouldn't mix it with GHB.
Are you saying it is bad to mix ketamine with alcohol?
I always have a beer while doing bumps of ketamine..
Is this dangerous?
It's not dangerous if you only take one beer (for ketamine), it's said to make ketamine unenjoyable for some people though... Alcohol potentiates GHB a lot though so be careful with those two, maybe it's also so strong with ketamine.. I think you should try low doses first when doing ketamine and GHB to know if you can handle it or not. Low doses of each shouldn't be bad but as a general rule, you shouldn't mix downers with ketamine.
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How would you recommend first-time dosing for someone who is pretty heavy: 275 lb / 125 kg. Believe it or not, I do not look like a manatee, exercise moderately and am generally healthy -- but I am moderately overweight and generally have higher thresholds for many substances.
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*reposting from BG's thread on main forum*
Just wanted to report here on my first transaction with BG
Comms were very professional, product knowledge was good and style was of a very friendly expert
Packaging and stealth were superbly professional, business-like, blending-in.
Time was not the fastest but certainly not anything to complain about
Product - I have not tried it yet, but if it is as good as forums make it then I shall be back since every other element of this transaction can not be faulted in any way.
Thanks again!
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How would you recommend first-time dosing for someone who is pretty heavy: 275 lb / 125 kg. Believe it or not, I do not look like a manatee, exercise moderately and am generally healthy -- but I am moderately overweight and generally have higher thresholds for many substances.
Hey Webb1 :)
Here's the link to BlueGiraffe's "Art of Dosing" post: *Art of Dosing Tutorial: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90582.msg717324;topicseen#msg717324
I think you will find the info you need in there. Otherwise please let me know if you still have questions. Happy to assist!
SilverFox (BlueGiraffe's little helper & fervent Manatee admirer :-* )
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I have tried GBL before but never GHB. Apparently they're both quite different in terms of effect, despite GBL being a precursor. GBL is a horrible drug in my opinion, partly because of the potential damage it can do to your body (and mind) but GHB seems much more refined. When it appeared, it was described as "liquid ecstacy", though i'm not sure if there is any accuracy in that description (seems like a media invention).
One thing to bear in mind is the drugs addictive potential. The withdrawl symptoms are said to be tortuous, with a massive dopamine rush. So be careful peeps!!!
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BlueGiraffe, I can't thank you enough! I'm a 28 year old male. When I was 17, I started drinking. After my first taste, I was hooked. Since then, I've been drinking about 1/2 bottle of 80 proof/40% hard liquor (in the US I think a bottle is 750ml, not sure if it's the same in the UK where you are) on work days and 1/2 a handle (I think a handle is 1.75 liters) on days off. I start drinking, on days off, as soon as I wake up and continue until I go to bed. I also frequently wake up to pee, and then I have a few more sips before going back to bed. On work days, I drink as soon as I get off and I also frequently call in sick so I can stay home and drink.
Recently, I started to have some abdominal discomfort/pain. I also experienced something else strange: I had just one shot and immediately threw up. I haven't puked since I was 18 or 19. I don't have health insurance so I couldn't see a Dr. I did some research, and my best guess is that I have alcoholic hepatitis or full blown cirrhosis. I also read about famous folks who have died of alcoholism. One of my idols, Jack Kerouac, died of alcoholism. He was taken to the hospital because of abdominal pain and promptly died. I had always planned on drinking myself to death, but when it got real, I realized that I wanted to live.
At this point I did some research. I had tried substituting benzos for booze, but tolerance built up too quickly. Then, I realized that booze and benzos both mediate their effects through the GABA-A receptors (booze also works on other receptors, but that's a subject for another day.) Then, I found out that GHB works on the GABA-B receptors (amongst others). I realized that if I alternated benzos with GHB, I could avoid building a tolerance to either.
So far, my abdominal pain has diminished and I haven't had a drink. I'm hoping it will go away entirely.
Still, booze is my all-time favorite drug. Nothing in the world compares to that first drink--the narcotic euphoria, the warm, cuddly sensation that emanates from my stomach through out my entire body, the feeling that nothing matters...I prefer alcohol to sex, to friends, to work...the only thing I like more than booze is being alive. I would sacrifice anything for a drink, anything except my life. I feel I've gotten to the point where I can choose either life or alcohol, but not both. If I keep drinking, I will probably die very soon.
In my opinion, nothing compares to alcohol (and I've tried everything under the sun from LSD to Ketamine to opiates of all types to cocaine etc.), but GHB and benzos at least allow me to keep my life.
Thanks BG--for your helpful tutorials, your excellent product, you great customer service, and for risking your own freedom to supply me with medicine. I credit you, in part, for saving my life.
Hey pseudanon (bow)
Sorry for only responding now - have been off the forums for a bit and just starting to catch up on posts now.
Thank you, thank you for posting what you did. I have great respect for what you are doing and for how you're intelligently applying this protocol as you are (and yes GABA-B is it!). And truly don't mention it! I do this as it's totally natural for me - unavoidable really :) Happy that it is serving. GHB is truly a blessed substance and has great utility - especially in situations such as yours.
It was banned because, being a natural substance, it cannot be patented (and thus owned). So it's availability does not serve the pharmaceutical powers-that-be. Well fuck that, we'll make sure that it's always available (and our spec is higher than Xyrem BTW). I'm always very moved at heart when I read a story such as your own - thank you so much for sharing!
When we release our full-spectrum Mescaline complex shortly, may I suggest that you consider experimenting with taking small doses of this with the GHB from time to time (with which it combines exquisitely). It has an ability to seep deep into the psyche and the bone marrow and support the journey that you are on. Great Blessings to you!
Respect,
BG
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when the ghb has started to rain moisture but isnt slush yet what can be done to dry it out... VERY low heat in a oven? im not sure sunlight is going to make much of a difference the way it seems to retain moisture
VERY low heat in an oven works well, yes :)
And Cosette's and SilverFox's comments above are totally valid. Get down with your lover first and then you'll feel it - and yes, possibly a lower dose - it helps to build up progressively - read this: * Art of Dosing Tutorial: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90582.msg717324;topicseen#msg717324
BG
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thanks silverfox and BG. looking forward to placing an order. and getting out of sub-50-post hell
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BlueG and friends ...
My love and I are considering GHB ... a first for both of us.
My love takes 750 APAP (I believe that's 750mg) vicodin 2-3x daily for pain. How long after a Vicodin would they need to wait before a GHB experience? We do NOT want to combine in any way. In fact, we want to make sure that we don't inadvertently potentiate any vicodin still in the system.
THANKS!!
Hey...
Vicodin (more likely 7.5mg) has a half-life of 4-6 hours so is excreted fairly rapidly. That said, your love always has vicodin in the system - 24 hours is not enough for it to clear fully - so I suggest proceed with extreme caution - the longer the gap the better, and take very small doses at first and experiment very cautiously. They will potentiate each other.
BG
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Dear blue furred long necked friend,
I never read much about GHB before acidentally seeing your thread and I got VERY curious. You seem to provide us fellow SRes a very nice powdery way of feeling good and I have to try it.
Relatively safe, sort of like alcohol but without hangover and some sexy effect? Count me in!
Unfortunately, due to having some not so cool times lately, I've been taking 150mg of Venlafaxine daily for some time by docs reccommendation. I started with 75mg and it was fine, I even lasted a little longer, wich was nice. When I increased to 150mg it decreased my libido a little, not so cool but probabbly gonna keep on it for a little longer to see how it goes.
Is it safe to take GHB while taking Venlafaxine (or any other SSRI/SNRI)? Anything else I should know about the mix or it wont have any interaction?
Peace,
BG. (whow, just realized we've got the same initials!)
Hey BarbieGirl :)
Should be fine taking GHB with SSRI's / SNRI's / SDRI's / SSRA's - but as always experiment cautiously in the beginning and test for any adverse interactions in your own body.
Suggest take the minimum Venlafaxine you can get away with as long term it will unbalance you. You may even find frequent sub-threshold GHB use a useful adjunct to your current meds (as a protocol not exceeding 1-3 months). Read this for some more info: http://www.biopsychiatry.com/ghb/authentic.html (though I recommend lower doses than those suggested by Rifat).
BG
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Hey BG,
I made my first ever international order with you yesterday!
This was after tasting the GHB that was domestically available, the quality left more to be desired.
I hope your product meets my expectations. ;)
Thank you :)
I have no doubt it will exceed your expectations!
Looking forward to your feedback...
BG
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Is it ok to mix ghb with ketamine?
I think I read in this thread that mixing G and ketamine is bad.
In general if you shouldn't mix a drug with alcohol, you shouldn't mix it with GHB.
Agree with CUPIDO... generally no that would not be wise. They will seriously potentiate each other - could be dangerous.
BG
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Hey BG, i've never actually used GHB before and am really interested in trying your stuff. Just wondering how i should go about doing GHB for my first time??
very interested in trying with MDMA aswell, but yea I really would like to know how to take the powder (e.g. dilute it or not?) and how much of it?
regards!!
* Enhancing the MDMA experience with GHB: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90975
* Art of Dosing Tutorial: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90582.msg717324;topicseen#msg717324
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Love the high. Subtle, social, erotic and very enjoyable.
Pina Gabana:)
Take the summer on with a nice buzz.
Cream of coconut, pineapple juice and one half banana, blend it up and mix two gram GHB in.
You're hired!! +1
Get this man (or woman) into the new edge decadence tonic elixir cocktail bar immediately! Sounds delicious :)
GHB also works very well in Bloody Mary style drinks - the salty taste works with the tomato and celery... and also combines very well with freshly pressed tart apple juice....
The 50/50 Na/K GHB goes very nicely with grapefruit-based cocktails...
BG
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I have tried GBL before but never GHB. Apparently they're both quite different in terms of effect, despite GBL being a precursor. GBL is a horrible drug in my opinion, partly because of the potential damage it can do to your body (and mind) but GHB seems much more refined. When it appeared, it was described as "liquid ecstacy", though i'm not sure if there is any accuracy in that description (seems like a media invention).
One thing to bear in mind is the drugs addictive potential. The withdrawl symptoms are said to be tortuous, with a massive dopamine rush. So be careful peeps!!!
Yes, GBL best avoided - really not an intelligent thing to ingest.
GHB does venture into the psychic terrain normally accessed by MDMA - not quite as profound. But funnier ;)
Generally GHB is not all addictive addictive, though anyone with a tendency towards addictive behavior with drugs could abuse GHB in this way.
Withdrawal from heavy GHB use (5-15g+ per day over many months) can indeed be very unpleasant, and shares some similarities with alcohol withdrawal in this regard. Best avoided.
Generally a "massive dopamine rush" would be rather delightful! (Think orgasm.) The mechanism of GHB withdrawal is more complex and centers primarily around down-regulation of GABA receptors.
Responsible GHB use (partying a couple of times a week or daily sub-threshold usage as a clinical anti-depressant) generally presents no problems at all.
BG
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thanks silverfox and BG. looking forward to placing an order. and getting out of sub-50-post hell
Some Karma to make it more bearable ;)
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Maybe "rush" is the wrong word. Rebound might be better. However, I bow to your superior knowledge of substance in question.
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thanks silverfox and BG. looking forward to placing an order. and getting out of sub-50-post hell
"sub-50-post hell" ;D Just do a countdown on a newbie "spam" thread - I literally made my last few posts typing one word counting backwards - Ten
Nine
Eight
Seven
etc, etc
Easy peasy! :D
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This drug intrigues me. I think I'm going to research this drug's interactions with other drugs (heart meds, ed meds, etc). Any recommended duckduckgo search terms, or perhaps a link somewhere that one could perhaps follow?
Many thanks (also added you as a favorite vendor based on your responses in this thread. Always pays to know someone who knows their biochemistry)
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Try erowid.org. This is an indispensable guide to just about every psychoactive, legal and illegal. There will be a wealth of info about GHB on erowid.
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This drug intrigues me. I think I'm going to research this drug's interactions with other drugs (heart meds, ed meds, etc). Any recommended duckduckgo search terms, or perhaps a link somewhere that one could perhaps follow?
Many thanks (also added you as a favorite vendor based on your responses in this thread. Always pays to know someone who knows their biochemistry)
"GHB interactions" should do it...
Generally apart from other CNS depressants it's pretty non-reactive, but be curious to know what you dig up...
Some more places to start...
Excellent books on GHB available on Amazon:
* http://www.amazon.com/GHB-Natural-Enhancer-Ward-Dean/dp/0962741868/
* http://www.amazon.com/Better-Sex-Through-Chemistry-Nutrients/dp/0962741825/
Three very good Clearnet articles on GHB:
* http://www.biopsychiatry.com/ghb/authentic.html
* http://www.life-enhancement.com/magazine/article/76-the-truth-about-ghb-steven-fowkes-testifies-to-the-california-state-legislature-committee
* http://fr0gman.wordpress.com/discover-the-regenerative-effects-of-ghb-the-elixir-of-life/
Forum Threads:
* FAQ / Best Practices: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90582.0
* Enhancing the MDMA experience with GHB: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90975
* Art of Dosing Tutorial: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90582.msg717324;topicseen#msg717324
BG
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Although I dissed GBL, there was certainly something pleasurable about the effects. I don't like alcohol but this was similar but better, if you know what I mean. GHB seems like the refined version of GBL, like comparing cocaine and crack, so I can't wait to get me some!! A depressant with a difference lol.
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Although I dissed GBL, there was certainly something pleasurable about the effects. I don't like alcohol but this was similar but better, if you know what I mean. GHB seems like the refined version of GBL, like comparing cocaine and crack, so I can't wait to get me some!! A depressant with a difference lol.
You're most certainly correct there - GBL is not very healthy for your body either. I wouldn't touch it, so I think you're in for a pleasant surprise.
SilverFox (BlueGiraffe's little helper)
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I'm excited to order some GHB from you soon.
Plan on combining with MDMA and for use on those sleepless nights
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Can you guys hurry up and get into the top 5% of vendors so we can get another +50% sale.
I want to grab a half kilo. ;)
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50/50 Na-GHB & K-GHB powder is now launched!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/487880fadc
Enjoy ;)
BlueGiraffe
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50/50 Na-GHB & K-GHB powder is now launched!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/487880fadc
Enjoy ;)
BlueGiraffe
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+1 for asking the first question!
For those that are uber particular about their health, maintaining the electrolyte balance (between sodium and potassium) in the body is a good thing. Na-GHB on its own adds to the body's sodium levels (which in any case tend to be a little higher than they should be due to the high processed-food diet of most people these days).
Adding K-GHB in at a 50/50 ratio brings approximately an equal amount of potassium into the body (which most people are deficient in because they don't eat all their greens), so altogether this has a health benefit.
The amount of sodium added to the body from occasional (and even regular) Na-GHB use is pretty marginal (like sprinkling double the salt on your fries), but from an ideal health perspective it can be improved upon. So we did :)
Interestingly as well, while K-GHB and Na-GHB "should" be identical from a pharmacological perspective, they aren't! It's subtle, but K-GHB definitely manifests more in the mind and emotions, and somewhat less in the body. Both Na-GHB and K-GHB are empathic but K-GHB is slightly more so, and it also seems slightly more stimulating, and makes for great deep conversation and lively discourse - definitely seems to open the pysche a bit more than the Na-GHB.
Conversely Na-GHB feels more in the body, more raunchy, disinhibited and slobbery :) So Na-GHB is probably nicer for passionate sweaty uninhibited fucking, and K-GHB nicer for deep heart-to-heart conversations and social interactions. They're both GHB in everyway of course too - but this distinction is definitely noticeable. The 50/50 combo really works nicely bringing these aspects together.
K-GHB is slightly more bitter tasting than Na-GHB which is just mildly salty. It is also slightly more hygroscopic than Na-GHB, but in the blend it appears not to be a problem at all. Finally K-GHB is about 13% weaker by weight than Na-GHB, so the 50/50 blend is about 6.5% weaker than straight Na-GHB. Very minor, but you may wish to account for it in your measuring.
Yields are are quite a bit lower with the K-GHB and it's a total bitch to crystallize properly, so more lab time involved in making it - hence the higher price. Most people will probably use the Na-GHB as their staple but also have the 50/50 on hand for when they want to tweak the mood in that direction. Of course the serious health freaks who want to get more heart-protecting potassium in their diet from their "drug" use will probably enjoy this as well!
BG
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Anyone know why there are almost no vendors of GHB in the states? BG seems to have a quality product, but I prefer shipping domestic.
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GHB is considered a "date rape" drug in America, and prosecutions are highly sought after.
GBL is harder to import here, and other synthesis routes are difficult or not cost effective.
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Anyone know why there are almost no vendors of GHB in the states? BG seems to have a quality product, but I prefer shipping domestic.
MeGrimlock (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/9d58c2c6fd) is now re-selling our GHB from Canada. Not quite the USA, but a little closer if that helps...
SilverFox (BlueGiraffe's little helper)
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i'm a new buyer and haven't had enough coin to make a purchase from BG yet, but i just wanted to say that you seem like a really awesome, involved part of this community as well as a top-notch vendor, and i look forward to purchasing some of your quality wares as soon as possible. BG<3
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i'm a new buyer and haven't had enough coin to make a purchase from BG yet, but i just wanted to say that you seem like a really awesome, involved part of this community as well as a top-notch vendor, and i look forward to purchasing some of your quality wares as soon as possible. BG<3
Thanks, deadreagan 8)
I will send your kind words on to BG.
I will look out for your order! :)
SilverFox
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I have a dosing question.
I'm 60 kilos and my first try was 0.8 grams in two go's in 1/2 hour. Then sipping until i consumed all together 2 grams in another 2 to 3 hours.
My feeling tells me that was a bit too little.
Now my next plan is taking 1 gram at once and then after half an hour sip another 1/2 gram.
I am trying this alone so really do not want to take big risks.
Here is my question:
What are indicators that you are going to far with GHB and whats and indicator you took too little?
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SilverFox,
Thanks for your help. I would imagine dealing with newbie SilkRoaders, like myself, can get annoying. Hopefully my PGP came through properly this time.
Had a quick dosage question and couldn't seem to find the answer in my browsing. Would you recommend mixing with water for dosing and storage? I noticed on your Canadian connection's page, they say something to the effect of combining 50g w/ 250ml of water to make fifty 5ml doses. Seems as though that would be a weak starting dose.
I apologize if this has already been addressed.
Thanks
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Anyone know why there are almost no vendors of GHB in the states? BG seems to have a quality product, but I prefer shipping domestic.
BlueGiraffe is the best. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost his last shipment. :(
I'll need to order another. Not experiencing GHB at its best is unacceptable.
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I have a dosing question.
I'm 60 kilos and my first try was 0.8 grams in two go's in 1/2 hour. Then sipping until i consumed all together 2 grams in another 2 to 3 hours.
My feeling tells me that was a bit too little.
Now my next plan is taking 1 gram at once and then after half an hour sip another 1/2 gram.
I am trying this alone so really do not want to take big risks.
Here is my question:
What are indicators that you are going to far with GHB and whats and indicator you took too little?
Hey iamdoingme! Nice to see you out and about on the Forum :)
You are being cautious with your dosing and that's excellent. I think you are on the right track with your next dosing protocol.
You can gauge your dosing kind of the same way as you gauge how much alcohol you drink.
If you're taking too little then you won't feel much :l
If you've taken too much you will get very sleepy and depending on how much you have dosed, you could possibly to drop off into a very deep sleep. This sleep is most likely the best you'll ever experience - you'll wake up refreshed and feeling great, but not so great if this is not what you have planned for the evening...
You may also feel somewhat nauseous if you have taken too much - I threw up on my first time and had to walk around the room to keep from falling asleep...
If you haven't already read this post by BlueGiraffe, then it is a must-read:
*Art of Dosing Tutorial: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90582.msg717324;topicseen#msg717324
Please let me know how it goes!
SFX
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SilverFox,
Thanks for your help. I would imagine dealing with newbie SilkRoaders, like myself, can get annoying. Hopefully my PGP came through properly this time.
Had a quick dosage question and couldn't seem to find the answer in my browsing. Would you recommend mixing with water for dosing and storage? I noticed on your Canadian connection's page, they say something to the effect of combining 50g w/ 250ml of water to make fifty 5ml doses. Seems as though that would be a weak starting dose.
I apologize if this has already been addressed.
Thanks
Hey CT000 8)
It's not at all annoying... Please ask whatever questions you need to and I will always be happy to respond. That's what I'm here for!!! ;)
For a start, read this post by BlueGiraffe:
*Art of Dosing Tutorial: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90582.msg717324;topicseen#msg717324
Water is fine (preferably filtered or distilled) to mix it in for dosing. You can also use orange, grapefruit, apple or tomato juice (GHB is a bit salty so they all go well with it).
The powder to liquid ratio is up to you. MeGrimlock's page is perfectly correct for bulk mixing as you are not limited to just 5ml per dose - so, for example, if you want to take 1.5g on your first dose you simply measure out 7.5ml of the mix. You can also just measure out your powder and mix it into a wine glass of water - it really depends on your preference and tolerance level, so it's just a matter of experimenting...
For storage it's not recommended to mix it into water. Most prefer to keep it in powder form, sealed in a couple of airtight bags in a well-sealed plastic or glass bottle at room temperature - not the fridge. GHB is hygroscopic and will absorb moisture from the atmosphere very easily and you don't want to end up with a gooey mess, so make it as airtight as possible.
Please let me know if you still have questions :)
SFX
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BlueGiraffe is the best. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost his last shipment. :(
I'll need to order another. Not experiencing GHB at its best is unacceptable.
Hmmm.... lost his last shipment? Please do PM BlueGiraffe on the marketplace so I can sort for you - if we haven't already?!
SilverFox
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BlueGiraffe is the best. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost his last shipment. :(
I'll need to order another. Not experiencing GHB at its best is unacceptable.
Hmmm.... lost his last shipment? Please do PM BlueGiraffe on the marketplace so I can sort for you - if we haven't already?!
SilverFox
I could have read it wrong, but it seemed like it wasn't BG's fault, but that AirshipAdmiral lost it after it came in. Just my 2 cents.
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Hey CT000 8)
It's not at all annoying... Please ask whatever questions you need to and I will always be happy to respond. That's what I'm here for!!! ;)
For a start, read this post by BlueGiraffe:
*Art of Dosing Tutorial: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90582.msg717324;topicseen#msg717324
Water is fine (preferably filtered or distilled) to mix it in for dosing. You can also use orange, grapefruit, apple or tomato juice (GHB is a bit salty so they all go well with it).
The powder to liquid ratio is up to you. MeGrimlock's page is perfectly correct for bulk mixing as you are not limited to just 5ml per dose - so, for example, if you want to take 1.5g on your first dose you simply measure out 7.5ml of the mix. You can also just measure out your powder and mix it into a wine glass of water - it really depends on your preference and tolerance level, so it's just a matter of experimenting...
For storage it's not recommended to mix it into water. Most prefer to keep it in powder form, sealed in a couple of airtight bags in a well-sealed plastic or glass bottle at room temperature - not the fridge. GHB is hygroscopic and will absorb moisture from the atmosphere very easily and you don't want to end up with a gooey mess, so make it as airtight as possible.
Please let me know if you still have questions :)
SFX
Thank you. This is perfect. I didn't see much in the original dosage thread about mixing with water, but that makes sense now. So you say to not mix with water for storage. If someone was to mix with water to take on a plane, seems as though liquid would look less suspicious than a baggy of powder... How long do you think it would be ok to keep? A few days, a week?
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BlueGiraffe is the best. Unfortunately, I seem to have lost his last shipment. :(
I'll need to order another. Not experiencing GHB at its best is unacceptable.
Hmmm.... lost his last shipment? Please do PM BlueGiraffe on the marketplace so I can sort for you - if we haven't already?!
SilverFox
I could have read it wrong, but it seemed like it wasn't BG's fault, but that AirshipAdmiral lost it after it came in. Just my 2 cents.
Could be... otherwise I have to track down that postman and rain down some silver fury on him. He may enjoy that.... he may not.
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Hey CT000 8)
It's not at all annoying... Please ask whatever questions you need to and I will always be happy to respond. That's what I'm here for!!! ;)
For a start, read this post by BlueGiraffe:
*Art of Dosing Tutorial: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90582.msg717324;topicseen#msg717324
Water is fine (preferably filtered or distilled) to mix it in for dosing. You can also use orange, grapefruit, apple or tomato juice (GHB is a bit salty so they all go well with it).
The powder to liquid ratio is up to you. MeGrimlock's page is perfectly correct for bulk mixing as you are not limited to just 5ml per dose - so, for example, if you want to take 1.5g on your first dose you simply measure out 7.5ml of the mix. You can also just measure out your powder and mix it into a wine glass of water - it really depends on your preference and tolerance level, so it's just a matter of experimenting...
For storage it's not recommended to mix it into water. Most prefer to keep it in powder form, sealed in a couple of airtight bags in a well-sealed plastic or glass bottle at room temperature - not the fridge. GHB is hygroscopic and will absorb moisture from the atmosphere very easily and you don't want to end up with a gooey mess, so make it as airtight as possible.
Please let me know if you still have questions :)
SFX
Thank you. This is perfect. I didn't see much in the original dosage thread about mixing with water, but that makes sense now. So you say to not mix with water for storage. If someone was to mix with water to take on a plane, seems as though liquid would look less suspicious than a baggy of powder... How long do you think it would be ok to keep? A few days, a week?
It's my pleasure. :) For long term storage powder is best, but some do mix with water and seem happy with the results as you can tell by MeGrimlock's advice. As he recommends mixing 100g GHB into 500mls of water this indicates that it keeps well. A few days to a week will be totally fine. For travelling purposes a baggy of powder in my luggage would make my fur stand on end, so I understand where you're coming from!!
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This drug intrigues me. I think I'm going to research this drug's interactions with other drugs (heart meds, ed meds, etc). Any recommended duckduckgo search terms, or perhaps a link somewhere that one could perhaps follow?
Many thanks (also added you as a favorite vendor based on your responses in this thread. Always pays to know someone who knows their biochemistry)
"GHB interactions" should do it...
Generally apart from other CNS depressants it's pretty non-reactive, but be curious to know what you dig up...
Some more places to start...
Excellent books on GHB available on Amazon:
* http://www.amazon.com/GHB-Natural-Enhancer-Ward-Dean/dp/0962741868/
* http://www.amazon.com/Better-Sex-Through-Chemistry-Nutrients/dp/0962741825/
Three very good Clearnet articles on GHB:
* http://www.biopsychiatry.com/ghb/authentic.html
* http://www.life-enhancement.com/magazine/article/76-the-truth-about-ghb-steven-fowkes-testifies-to-the-california-state-legislature-committee
* http://fr0gman.wordpress.com/discover-the-regenerative-effects-of-ghb-the-elixir-of-life/
Forum Threads:
* FAQ / Best Practices: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90582.0
* Enhancing the MDMA experience with GHB: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90975
* Art of Dosing Tutorial: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90582.msg717324;topicseen#msg717324
BG
Well, i am very new to all this and stumbled in here with plenty of questions and these seem to have answered most of them. Thanks for putting this all together.
I came on here purely looking for help in aiding me achieve deep sleep and now i see there are a whole host of different uses. Got me thinking to say the least.
EDIT: After reading all the stellar reviews, i just placed my first order.
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I read the dosing suggestions and your conversation with CT000.
Some additional questions concerning "logistics":
What is the best way to prepare for a situation when one is at a club or at a friends house (without scale)?
Weighing and mixing with water beforehand? Using vials?
Is the concentration of the GHB in the liquid evenly distributed?
Or does it have the tendency to settle down etc.
Thank you!
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Weigh out and bag individual doses.
Then put them in solution as you need them.
Putting a lot of GHB in solution runs the risk of accidentally overdosing someone.
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One thing i'm not too sure about, is how one should go about consuming GHB powder? Do most people mix it with a drink and just swallow it down, or can it be snorted or "bombed" in a cig paper? ???
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Well, i am very new to all this and stumbled in here with plenty of questions and these seem to have answered most of them. Thanks for putting this all together.
I came on here purely looking for help in aiding me achieve deep sleep and now i see there are a whole host of different uses. Got me thinking to say the least.
EDIT: After reading all the stellar reviews, i just placed my first order.
Hey Mars29...
Nice to see you here :)
I'm glad you found all your questions answered - if any more come up, please just ask.
SFX
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Thanks CUPIDO.
SilverFox, what are your thoughts on http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108363.msg1379294#msg1379294 ?
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Hey Silver Fox//Blue Giraffe--
My first purchase was your 25g of GHB and everything went perfectly. Shipping time wasn't long at all and the stealth was perfect. Thank you for everything!
I've read through many forums about GHB storage and I still have a few quick questions--
I stored the GHB in a plastic bag (air tight) and I noticed some water droplets forming around the top of the bag. I re-bagged it after noticing this and placed the bag in a pill bottle, but I'm still getting water droplets. Should I put the GHB directly into a pill bottle (without a bag)? Glass jars are not a possibility at the moment-- plastic pill bottles are okay?
Once a stash has formed some water, is it possible to prevent more from happening by storing it better? Any way to prevent this from happening in the future? Any idea why I got water droplets in the first place?
Thank you!! Will be placing many more orders in the future :)
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I will be ordering very soon my friend. Reading your reviews and loving your prices. Looking forward to tasting your product and leaving a full review for others!!!
Ryno
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bluegiraffes stuff is awesome i prefer it over liquid ghb ... whoever is into ghb must try his stuff 8)
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Thanks CUPIDO.
SilverFox, what are your thoughts on http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108363.msg1379294#msg1379294 ?
dmklr! My humblest apologies. I was in the midst of replying yesterday when, well, life happened and I had to save it for today.
And, yes, thanks CUPIDO for stepping in...
So to answer your questions:
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What is the best way to prepare for a situation when one is at a club or at a friends house (without scale)?
Weighing and mixing with water beforehand? Using vials?
Is the concentration of the GHB in the liquid evenly distributed?
Or does it have the tendency to settle down etc.
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Preparation for a friend's house or club boils down to personal preference that comes from experience really.
CUPIDO prefers weighing out powder beforehand to avoid possibly overdosing someone with a pre-mixed liquid. If this powder option feels like a good idea then try it. The spoon we provide measures out approximately 1g if it's level, not packed tightly and lightly shaken.
For a public situation where discretion is required a pre-measure dose in water is best. The vials sound handy and this would address the concern of taking too much. They could also be a mission to carry around and a little suspect, but this depends on you and how many you are intending to mix up. Ratio of powder to liquid is up to you, but a good amount of water is better for taste and accuracy of dosing.
GHB dissolves completely into water. Yes, it should stay evenly distributed as it is solution, but always good to give a little shake anyway.
SFX
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One thing i'm not too sure about, is how one should go about consuming GHB powder? Do most people mix it with a drink and just swallow it down, or can it be snorted or "bombed" in a cig paper? ???
Most seasoned GHB partakers prefer to mix it in water or fruit juice - orange, apple, grapefruit or tomato work well because they compliment the saltiness.
Snorting is not ever done. It's a big pile of powder to get up your nose, so not the most graceful method of delivery. Bombing is also an option, not the best, but certainly better than snorting it if mixing in a liquid is not an option.
We provide a measuring spoon that holds approximately 1g if the scoop is level, not tightly packed and lightly shaken.
Read this too: *Art of Dosing Tutorial: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90582.msg717324;topicseen#msg71732
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Hey Silver Fox//Blue Giraffe--
My first purchase was your 25g of GHB and everything went perfectly. Shipping time wasn't long at all and the stealth was perfect. Thank you for everything!
I've read through many forums about GHB storage and I still have a few quick questions--
I stored the GHB in a plastic bag (air tight) and I noticed some water droplets forming around the top of the bag. I re-bagged it after noticing this and placed the bag in a pill bottle, but I'm still getting water droplets. Should I put the GHB directly into a pill bottle (without a bag)? Glass jars are not a possibility at the moment-- plastic pill bottles are okay?
Once a stash has formed some water, is it possible to prevent more from happening by storing it better? Any way to prevent this from happening in the future? Any idea why I got water droplets in the first place?
Thank you!! Will be placing many more orders in the future :)
Hey unknownom21 :)
Glad all went smoothly! It's our pleasure.
When you say air tight I'm imagining you squeezed the air out of the bag as much as possible and sealed it. I'm sure you've read that GHB is hygroscopic by nature and will happily suck the moisture from the atmosphere within a very short space of time, so air tight is the key. Just mentioning again for the sake of clarity...
BG simply stores his powder in a sealed vitamin bottle without the bag and he is happy with that. So you could try taking it out of the bag and storing directly in the bottle.
Further water absorption is preventable by storing better. To prevent this happening in future try the following:
*** Some silica gel sachets popped in to the bag will help with any moisture trapped in the bag after sealing...
*** Another option is to add another layer - so re-bag it - super airtight. Then put that bag into another bag - again, super air tight. Then the bottle - you could stretch a piece of plastic over the opening of the bottle before screwing the lid on. Plastic pill bottle is fine.
As to why it absorbed moisture in the first place - it happens. Little moisture gremlins in the bag. I'm sure it was just the tiniest of air leaks or absorption that happened before you managed to seal it. You just need to experiment with your storage.
Let me know how you go! And looking forward to providing you with more of our fine wares ;)
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I will be ordering very soon my friend. Reading your reviews and loving your prices. Looking forward to tasting your product and leaving a full review for others!!!
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Sounds good to me! ;) Will be ready and waiting.
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bluegiraffes stuff is awesome i prefer it over liquid ghb ... whoever is into ghb must try his stuff 8)
Thanks, jlover 8)
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eww
Different strokes, greencheebz ;) I take it you haven't tried our gear yet?
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Thanks, SilverFox!
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BlueGiraffe is heroic. 100%
Maybe I'm a little biased because I never tried GHB before BG. I had heard a bit about it but no one I hang with has ever tried it so I decided to do my own research. Once I decided GHB was safe enough, I got curious and decided to play BG's lotto after researching him on the forums and whatnot.
1,2,3.. Winner!
100g!!
He sent me a friendly message and my GHB was delivered timely. ;D
From the very first try on my own (following BG's recommendations for dosing) I had an AMAZING time. Personally I experience almost 0 tolerance build and only a brief light headache the next morning if I redose once or more and end up taking 4g+ to make the experience last longer. One thing to note is my friend who is a ~125lbs F needed HALF the dose I did (175lb M) to get similar effects. She was happy chilling with 1g even. So just as BG says start light and find your own dosage.
Damn I feel like I stumbled upon a treasure chest. Awesome stuff! I just have to restrain myself and make it last a while since I'm not rich. GHB goes great with most of the other drugs I like too, since I don't really go for depressants usually (mostly psychs). Even 1mg klon meant I was taking less GHB and getting more tired.
That's the only downside to me, getting tired. I usually fall asleep fine but I will wake up in 4 hrs if I fall asleep with depressants in my system.
But I love coffee so that helps. 8)
BlueGiraffe ftw!! If you have never tried GHB give it some research because I like it way better than alcohol (eww).
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Also I am REALLY looking forward to BlueGiraffe vending MESCALINE!!! So excited to try it. :) :D ;D
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I found that the spoon provided by BG measures almost exactly 2grams if you scoop out a full spoonful and don't level it out. Full marks to BG for providing such a professional service! 8)
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It gives ~1g flat that's a more accurate measurement IMO ;)
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Well, I've weighed a few heaped spoonfuls, and they always, almost exactly, come out as 2 grams. That's my method anyway. Each to their own. ;)
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Or both! I like to dose 2g, wait, 1, wait, 1. I haven't got the strategy down for the heaping 2 though mine end up between 1.5 and 2.2 usually. Good idea though I'll have to try it again to save a min.
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It's more convenient for me to weigh it in 2g doses, as 1g is not enough. Probably due to my size I guess. :D
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It seems the BlueGiraffe account has been suspended for violating the rule about retaining customer addresses.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=196608.0
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That is awful, it would be amazing if DPR can let people effected by this change SR usernames so we are not linked to an address.
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Truly tragic. Hopefully no one get's busted. Also hopefully we can have a reliable source of GHB again (that doesn't save addresses).