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Title: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:36 am
This is going to be a recap of my first experiences on SR.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:37 am
I'm planning an LSD/pharma trip next week, and I registered for the forums so I could post a trip report afterward.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:39 am
However, the 50 post requirement is a major pain in the bollocks.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:42 am
... And so I'll be posting what ought to be a few posts in many, many segments.  Blame the forum rules, not me.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:44 am
***TL;DR***
I don't expect anyone to actually read this whole thread, so here's a summary of my experiences with my first several vendors:
(+) = positive; (-) = negative; (n) = neutral

pimpit - (+)
HollandOnline - (-)
anonymart - (n)
Ganja Man - (n)
Tessellated - (+)
nawlins - (-)
hashman - (+)
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:45 am
I came to SR because I no longer have a face-to-face connection for high quality DMT.  My first ever order on the site was half a gram of N,N-DMT from pimpit.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:46 am
This was the first order I placed and the last to arrive.  The wait was excruciating.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:47 am
What came was a light yellow crumbly/flakey powder.  I'd mostly smoked white DMT before and had only one experience with yellow stuff. This had turned out to be very weak, and so I was skeptical of the product I'd just received.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:49 am
Thinking it would be rather weaker than I was accustomed to, I loaded quite a lot of powder into my pipe (along with the salvia I always smoke with DMT).  I tried the product out several hours after it arrived.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:51 am
What follows is a rough description of my experience.  If you choose to read it, please read all the way through or you may have a mistaken impression (as I did).
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:52 am
I got a very good lungful of smoke and as the drug hit, I whited out for a moment.  I had a powerful rushing sensation, like being rocketed forward, and patterns streaked by me to either side as if I were really hurdling through something.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:53 am
I won't attempt to describe the mind aspect of the trip here.  It was in the same vein as experiences I'd had with salvia and DMT before.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:54 am
The visuals were very different from what I'd had before, however.  They were very soft and washed-out in kaleidoscope/music visualiser patterns and butter-mint colours.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:56 am
Also, there was an incredibly intense body high.  The visuals lasted perhaps 5 minutes, but the body high persisted for another 25.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:58 am
I'd had a great many experiences on very good DMT before, but none of them had been like this.  My DMT visuals had always been extremely stark, precise, spindly, and fractal-like* coming in impossibly high detail and in vivid colours.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 12:58 am
*Fractal-like even when the visuals aren't simply abstract patterns.  For instance, my death often manifests incarnate to me as a woman, and her form is fractal-like in ways too fine for the eye detect, but I see it anyway (this probably sounds really stupid if you haven't done the drug ... oh well).
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:00 am
I'd never had the rushing sensation before, or anything at all approaching the body high I'd just experienced.  Moreover, the experience was usually 15--20 minutes of visuals followed by 5 or so minutes of a tremulous (but mild) body high.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:01 am
As I came down, I started thinking that this was not N,N-DMT, but another variant.  After several minutes perusing erowid, I was totally convinced that what I'd just smoked was 5-MeO-DMT.  I messaged pimpit about my conclusions.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:02 am
He protested that his product was N,N-DMT, and I began to search through the available reagent tests.  Unfortunately, it apparently requires a full chem lab to distinguish chemically between these two compounds.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:03 am
I wasn't going to give a negative review or call this product out as 5-MeO (something which I'd never tried, BTW) without being 100% certain.  So I tried the DMT again a few hours after the first trip.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:04 am
This time, I simply smoked the residue left in my pipe from the previous trip ... and I found it was exactly the DMT experience I knew and loved.  There was NOTHING wrong with this product, in fact it was very good ... I had simply dosed too heavily the first time.*
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:05 am
*It probably sounds strange that dosing too heavy yields a lower caliber of visual experience with DMT ... but it's true.  I'd noticed before with my beloved white DMT that trying to go for a second hit usually diminished the experience rather than augmenting it.  I hadn't ever overdone the dosage to this extent before ... but that was simply because I thought based on the colour this stuff would be weak (racist that I am -_o).
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:06 am
Moral of the story?
pimpit has really excellent DMT.
Also: don't rush to judgement.  It's easy to be mistaken.  Feedback is of paramount importance on this site, and so be totally sure you know what you're talking about before giving negative feedback.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:07 am
Now we go back in time to cover my other purchases and attempted purchases:
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:08 am
My second and third orders were from HollandOnline.  This seller had good reviews and was featuring a killer deal on 20 tab blocks of blotter.  So I placed an order.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:09 am
I received an message within a couple of hours from the vendor asking me to place a smaller order (because we 'hadn't done business before').  There followed a back-and-forth through which we established that they'd cancel my order and I'd order 10 hits instead.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:12 am
The price for 10 hits was not at all as good (about $2.50 more per hit), but was still pretty much the best deal going, and so I placed the order.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:13 am
Having scaled down my LSD purchase, I now looked for something to use my surplus BTC on.  My mind turned to cannabis---ice-olator, kief, hash, or hash oil.  I placed an order for a gram of white widow kief (I love white widow) from anonymart.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:14 am
Unfortunately, there seemed to be some trouble with anonymart's PGP key.  It lacked a sub-key, which my research indicated made it sig-only.  I'm not sure how anyone actually uses this key to encrypt information, but my software wouldn't do it.  I made the order by using a privnote in the address box, but the vendor did not accept privnote.  Since I couldn't securely communicate my personal info to the seller, the order had to be cancelled.  No hard feelings toward this vendor.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:17 am
My next order was for some hash from Ganja Man.  I had browsed the marketplace and decided on this product.  The cost was .96 BTC and I had .96 BTC, but when I went to place the order, I got the 'insufficient funds ' notice ... clearly, there was a discrepancy somewhere in the truncated digits.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:19 am
I just waited; the price was hedged, so all I needed to do was to check back periodically until the bitcoin market had fluctuated this discrepancy away.  As soon as the  'insufficient funds' notice was gone, I placed the order ... to my immediate regret.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:19 am
What had made the difference was not the price of bitcoin, but my order from HollandOnline having been cancelled.  Accompanying the automated cancellation notice, I had a message from HollandOnline saying that the 'banker' had put the nix on my order because I was a newbie.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:21 am
What bothers me here is that they sodding well KNEW I was a newbie the FIRST TIME I'd placed an order.  Had they cancelled then for this reason, I could say 'tough luck'.  However, they screwed me around asking me to place a smaller order, causing me to lose a day on my mission to purchase acid on SR and also forcing me to pay an additional transaction fee (bear in mind, I'm losing money on each one of these failed transactions).
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:22 am
In fact, they cost me TWO transaction fees: the refund from this order was not going to cover the cost of replacing it (i.e., ordering more LSD from a reputable vendor), and so I then had to immediately ask Ganja Man to cancel my order.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:23 am
I figured out my next order while I waited on Ganja Man to cancel my previous one.  This ended up taking more than 24 hours, and by the time I received the refund from this order the price of bitcoin was dropping.  I waited a bit to let the trend turn around, but the price continued to drop, and finally I had to place the order before I could no longer afford the items in my cart.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:24 am
Naturally, the price began to rebound within an hour.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:26 am
The new orders were: 5 double-printed tabs from Tessellated and 3 hash pills from nawlins.  Five days later, my order from Tess arrived (with really great stealth) and my order from nawlins (never confirmed) was cancelled.  I was on the point of asking 'WTF, mate?' when the cancellation notice came.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:27 am
I never contacted nawlins, but had seen from his page that he does indeed sell to first-time buyers.  I assume it was an inventory issue, but I'm still quite unimpressed that my money had to sit in escrow for 5 days before he decided he wasn't going to send me anything.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:28 am
Moreover, a couple of things on this vendor's page don't sit well with me:
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:30 am
<rant>
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:34 am
"3. Your order shifts from Processing to In Transit when it ships. Please do not write to point out that your order is still in processing or asking whether or not we really shipped it."

Apparently sometimes, he just sits on an order for a while and then doesn't fill it ... making it COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE to message him asking about your order.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:37 am
</rant>
ASIDE: Post #42 is dedicated to Douglas Adams.
<resume rant>
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:38 am
"Note that PGP is not required, nor even encouraged. You are welcome to use it if you wish, however we ask that you please exercise some self-restraint and not use it when ordering a single Xanax tablet, for example..."

This is really stupid.  People use PGP in case the servers which store transaction info for SR are ever compromised.  I'm sure they're encrypted, but someone has the key, and since I don't know DPR personally, I choose to protect myself.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:39 am
The point is: it doesn't matter how small or even legal an individual order is, it NEVER makes sense to transmit personally identifying information unsecurely.  Why? Because IF the SR servers were to be accessed by LE, say, then one single instance of an unencrypted address is enough to link your identity to your SR account ... and from there to all the other illegal things you do here.  Thus, what nawlins is suggesting defeats the WHOLE POINT of ever encrypting anything.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:40 am
Furthermore, decrypting a message takes all of selecting it and hitting [CMD]+[SHIFT]+D.  How hard is that?  If it's too much trouble for you, consider changing up your GPG software, because it shouldn't be.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:41 am
</rant>
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:42 am
My experience with Tessellated was completely without a hitch.  I won't try the tabs until next week, but this batch has received great reviews, and I'd be VERY surprised if they were at all disappointing.  If all goes as well as I anticipate, then Tess will certainly have my vote for Avengers 'star' rating.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:43 am
Finally, having to replace the order from nawlins, I ordered other (better AND cheaper) hash pills from hashman.  They arrived quickly and inconspicuously, and though I haven't tried them yet, I expect good things based on the reviews.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 04, 2013, 01:45 am
This is the end of my narrative.  I have purchased some Syrian Rue (legally) and will be trying out Tess's tabs along side my very first batch of making pharmahuasca next week.  Wish me luck.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: whirlpool on March 04, 2013, 03:53 am
Ahh interesting reading
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: bolshytrout on March 14, 2013, 06:39 am
GGA I've had a bad experience with nawlins too. He is just unreliable and full of bullshit excuses. I paid for an order which never arrived. Then after so many emails he eventually replied to say he will reship half which again never arrived. He then said raise it in the resolution centre and he will refund half which he never did.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: tyrone1337 on March 14, 2013, 06:54 am
Interesting read. Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 14, 2013, 07:02 am
That's too bad ... but this is why I decided to make this thread.  The vendors I had specifically bad experiences with cancelled my orders so I couldn't even give them the feedback they deserved.  I'm pretty sure at least one of them -1'd me for this thread. -_o

I had thought this thread was dead, but I'm glad to see you've revived it, bolshytrout. In the way of an update, I did try the Tess tabs (and also my first pharma) and wrote up a trip report here (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=130501.msg891717#msg891717).  Tess proved out to be an excellent vendor, and I recommend him wholeheartedly.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Electric Paper on March 14, 2013, 07:04 am
Ordered from Googleyed.....I'll see how it goes. Damn, M1 fry outs here we come!
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: BKisnotBurgerKing on March 14, 2013, 08:13 am
Ordered from Googleyed.....I'll see how it goes. Damn, M1 fry outs here we come!

I saw a forum post by DPR himself saying Googleyed is scamming. Disappointing since I have ordered from him several times and always been happy.

I have been here as a seller for over a year. A buyer even longer and if any of you never had the pleasure of ordering from Pharmville, you truly missed out. Packaging was excellent, product was awesome. I picked up many an Express mail pack worth over a grand so many times I lost count. And they sold so many good painkillers and benzos for cheap. I really miss those days and wish I knew what really happened to them. To me, they were always a class act. Sorry, just reminiscing.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: bolshytrout on March 14, 2013, 12:51 pm
Great Green Arkleseizure who do you mean by Tess? Tesseract4d(99)? And where did yoiu get the DMT capsules? Having lost my previous DMT supplier (trojan) who had both the DMT and MAOI in capsule form I have been looking for it for ages.

As for your trip report, I read it with interest. I must try your technique. I regularly try LSD/oral DMT/and Hash trip. A good combination which gives me about 10 hours of a strong spiritual experience goes as follows: Take few LSD tabs (300 to 500 mics), half an hour later take the MAOI (Syrian rue, 5 gms) and then half an hour later take the DMT brew (15gms of the powder brewed 3 times). Before the trip I make about 10 Hash/Skunk mixed joints ready too to smoke at regular intervals. OMG what trips I get!!! Honestly GGA I can literally play with the stars in the sky.

But honestly though if you know a good source for DMT/MAOI capsules plz share.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: kleenex on March 14, 2013, 04:06 pm
So far I haven't had a reason to loathe anyone.

But one vendor I really love is AceDrugs.

That delivery speed is something else.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: GF1 on March 14, 2013, 04:33 pm
I haven't dealt with a bad one lately.  I always do my research before placing an order.  Off the top of my head I've had consistently great service from:

hatter26
rorock
sugar mama
jayster
natasha
brownandpurple
rogerpete

Just to name a few.
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 14, 2013, 06:52 pm
Great Green Arkleseizure who do you mean by Tess? Tesseract4d(99)? And where did yoiu get the DMT capsules? Having lost my previous DMT supplier (trojan) who had both the DMT and MAOI in capsule form I have been looking for it for ages.

As for your trip report, I read it with interest. I must try your technique. I regularly try LSD/oral DMT/and Hash trip. A good combination which gives me about 10 hours of a strong spiritual experience goes as follows: Take few LSD tabs (300 to 500 mics), half an hour later take the MAOI (Syrian rue, 5 gms) and then half an hour later take the DMT brew (15gms of the powder brewed 3 times). Before the trip I make about 10 Hash/Skunk mixed joints ready too to smoke at regular intervals. OMG what trips I get!!! Honestly GGA I can literally play with the stars in the sky.

But honestly though if you know a good source for DMT/MAOI capsules plz share.

Tess = Tessellated (i.e., the vendor I mentioned buying LSD from earlier on this thread).  I didn't specifically buy DMT capsules.  I bought DMT (from pimpit) and after smoking some and testing its quality, I put some in a capsule.  The same with the harmala alkaloids.  I bought syrian rue seeds on amazon.com and did a home extraction of the desired compounds (look up the vinegar extraction method on erowid), and then put the extracted alkaloids in another capsule.

As far as your recipe goes, it sounds a lot like what I did until you to 15g of DMT (I mean holy shit).  I took about 80 mg of the harmala alkaloids and about 150mg of DMT.  In the future, I will probably take 120mg of the alkaloids to see if I get a longer trip this way.  Anyway, you don't need to 'brew' the DMT for a pharma trip, the crystals themselves are fine.

If you're in need of a DMT vendor, check out the DMT review thread I started here (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=128241.0).
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: fokker on March 14, 2013, 07:26 pm
This is interesting information which I should have read earlier. Thanks!
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: bolshytrout on March 15, 2013, 11:14 am
No GGA I didnt mean 15gm of DMT but the root bark from which you get DMT. The traditional way of making ayahuasca. But what you say is interesting. do you mean you can also take the DMT crystals orally? (with the syrian rue). I didnt know that. Should I go for any particular kind of crystals?
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: rougeface on March 15, 2013, 12:07 pm
As I am trying to reach 50 posts I will post the names of some vendors I recently dealth with and  was very impressed by.
Marijuanaismymuse
peels4you
tomorrowman
midnightblue

These vendors are legit and I would recommend doing business with them

Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: OwsleyStanley25 on March 15, 2013, 12:24 pm
Hey Great Green Arkleseizure,

I like Tesselated's blotter, seems very clean. But, wouldn't you say they are a bit weak?  Advertised as 200 mics.? You think?
Title: Re: Vendors I have loved and loathed
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on March 15, 2013, 07:59 pm
@bolshytrout: I recommend the purest DMT your can find.  I smoke this stuff much more than I take it orally, and pure stuff means you can easily 'break through' with 1 hit (which is desirable).  Also: using very pure stuff makes it easier to judge how much drug you're actually taking.  On the other hand, if you want to mirror the effect you get from MHRB, maybe you'll want the yellowest DMT possible (I'm not sure if any of the other extracted alkaloids in MHRB are psychoactive, but I won't doubt it).  In any case, any crystals will do for eating ... just make sure to take your MAOI at least 30 minutes beforehand.

@OwsleyStanley25: No.  I didn't find them weak at all.  I felt like they might have been under-advertised.  I had been worried they might be weak since people had started to say that (after I'd placed my order, of course).  But I tripped balls for 16 hours ... they performed like champs for me.  Check the trip report I linked a few posts back if you want to know more.