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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: powersmoke on November 05, 2012, 10:42 pm

Title: first time H question--for users, please, not preachers
Post by: powersmoke on November 05, 2012, 10:42 pm
Just picked up my mail and was grateful to see my order of 250mg coldshot from Hatter...
This is a first time use, mainly to substitute for the opana/dilaudid use that has gotten EXPENSIVE in my household....

Typical use is 4 or 5 (4mg) dilaudid tab's dissolved in bacteriostatic or sterile saline, filtered through .22mic filter into 3 cc syringe and administered IM (glute)-- at least twice a day, sometimes 3.
Either that or, +/- 60mg opana IM using alcohol separation process.
Guesstimating, what would ya think is comparable dose of the hatter product?

And, just to ease my naive fears of "OH GOD---IV!!??" are there any oddball effect to watch far?

This product is completely foreign to my locale, and after many many years of sortid use of various substances, I havent ever heard/seen/met anyone thats ever used H.
I'm jus sayin...no knowledge to fall back on.
Title: Re: first time H question--for users, please, not preachers
Post by: Zulu on November 05, 2012, 11:28 pm
there is more than one in depth write up on this very subject - hey look there is even one stickied for you

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=2072.0
Title: Re: first time H question--for users, please, not preachers
Post by: microRNA on November 06, 2012, 12:15 am
are you doing 60 mg of oxymorphone at once?!

i would guess you must not be extracting it completely

if you are getting a full 60 mg dose of oxymorphone you might be disappointed by H honestly, OM is one of the most potent opioids there is and thats a pretty massive dose - enough to kill many people, so i am assuming you must have a pretty decent tolerance

however - if you get comparable effects from 4 mg hydromorphone, then i would bet the extraction is not working all that well or else you should be tolerant to that as well...

so i would base the dose conversion on the 4 mg hydromorphone and not the 60 mg of oxymorphone or else you might not get the correct amount you need. 

too hard to give recommendations safely - start much smaller than you think you need and work your way up. some might need 20 mg, some 50 mg, and others maybe even 100 mg H
Title: Re: first time H question--for users, please, not preachers
Post by: powersmoke on November 06, 2012, 12:31 am
are you doing 60 mg of oxymorphone at once?!

i would guess you must not be extracting it completely

if you are getting a full 60 mg dose of oxymorphone you might be disappointed by H honestly, OM is one of the most potent opioids there is and thats a pretty massive dose - enough to kill many people, so i am assuming you must have a pretty decent tolerance

however - if you get comparable effects from 4 mg hydromorphone, then i would bet the extraction is not working all that well or else you should be tolerant to that as well...

so i would base the dose conversion on the 4 mg hydromorphone and not the 60 mg of oxymorphone or else you might not get the correct amount you need. 

too hard to give recommendations safely - start much smaller than you think you need and work your way up. some might need 20 mg, some 50 mg, and others maybe even 100 mg H

yep--that 60mg OP is more than once per day...and i feel pretty pretty confident after a year plus, that my extraction is pretty damn close.
It is a time consuming process, and works well with the older pills and the generics without the gell shit...those are out of my league.

The main DOC is hydro, and that is legit (4 or 5) 4 mg pills, so make sure you understand the dosage has been 16-20mg per injection. This is 2-3 times per day.
Also--this is IM--not IV--so there is  a loss there.

Either way--
I have no baseline to convert "H" in a IV route to what has been done historically.

I understand there is very little that compares to the Opana, as far as strength, and honestly, i doubt there is little that compares as far as the withdrawal either.
Thats a bitch--and dont want any more really...
Mainly just trying to catch a peaceful buzz...this is NOT for pain relief.

Thanks for the words so far.
Any more takers??
Title: Re: first time H question--for users, please, not preachers
Post by: powersmoke on November 06, 2012, 12:33 am
there is more than one in depth write up on this very subject - hey look there is even one stickied for you

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=2072.0

duh--
Thanks for that, Zulu..
rookie move on my part.
Title: Re: first time H question--for users, please, not preachers
Post by: Zulu on November 06, 2012, 01:24 am
there is more than one in depth write up on this very subject - hey look there is even one stickied for you

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=2072.0

duh--
Thanks for that, Zulu..
rookie move on my part.
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no worrie smy man, just see these questions everyday
Title: Re: first time H question--for users, please, not preachers
Post by: onepostchump on November 08, 2012, 11:59 am
hey what solvent are you guys using to pull the goods out of OP ?
Title: Re: first time H question--for users, please, not preachers
Post by: microRNA on November 08, 2012, 12:02 pm
acidic aqueous
Title: Re: first time H question--for users, please, not preachers
Post by: inthedaytimewitha on November 11, 2012, 02:44 am
are you doing 60 mg of oxymorphone at once?!

i would guess you must not be extracting it completely

if you are getting a full 60 mg dose of oxymorphone you might be disappointed by H honestly, OM is one of the most potent opioids there is and thats a pretty massive dose - enough to kill many people, so i am assuming you must have a pretty decent tolerance

however - if you get comparable effects from 4 mg hydromorphone, then i would bet the extraction is not working all that well or else you should be tolerant to that as well...

so i would base the dose conversion on the 4 mg hydromorphone and not the 60 mg of oxymorphone or else you might not get the correct amount you need. 

too hard to give recommendations safely - start much smaller than you think you need and work your way up. some might need 20 mg, some 50 mg, and others maybe even 100 mg H

yep--that 60mg OP is more than once per day...and i feel pretty pretty confident after a year plus, that my extraction is pretty damn close.
It is a time consuming process, and works well with the older pills and the generics without the gell shit...those are out of my league.

The main DOC is hydro, and that is legit (4 or 5) 4 mg pills, so make sure you understand the dosage has been 16-20mg per injection. This is 2-3 times per day.
Also--this is IM--not IV--so there is  a loss there.

Either way--
I have no baseline to convert "H" in a IV route to what has been done historically.

I understand there is very little that compares to the Opana, as far as strength, and honestly, i doubt there is little that compares as far as the withdrawal either.
Thats a bitch--and dont want any more really...
Mainly just trying to catch a peaceful buzz...this is NOT for pain relief.

Thanks for the words so far.
Any more takers??


"I understand there is very little that compares to the Opana, as far as strength, and honestly, i doubt there is little that compares as far as the withdrawal either."

Ha , you say that now, see if you say that once you're strung on that boy.

I  would suggest you not even fuck with it at all, but if you must, shoot a max of 30-50 units.