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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: NeverLeNkemise on June 01, 2013, 04:36 pm

Title: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: NeverLeNkemise on June 01, 2013, 04:36 pm
I have come up with An Idea.
A FULL drugs guide created by the members of this forum, especially those who really know their niches.
Everything from weed to computer duster and psychedelics that are still totally unresearched.
We could include interviews with vendors, picture guides and user experiences.
Is it possible?
All input is appreciated.
I'll start with an article on weed for the total beginner that should be finished in a few hours.
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: symbiotia on June 01, 2013, 04:41 pm
I'd help, but I'm kinda high and pretty chill....... 8)
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: Devil1 on June 01, 2013, 04:46 pm
Im all for it.  I have a pretty great grasp on pharmaceuticals so let me know if there is anything i can do to help.
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: thekimber on June 01, 2013, 05:07 pm
Google, the internet. bluelight...
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: Jarno9 on June 01, 2013, 05:30 pm
I'm willing to do the Jenkem section
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: symbiotia on June 01, 2013, 05:42 pm
I'm feeling motivated now, I could do some testing.   ;D
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: WelshBoa on June 01, 2013, 06:15 pm
Good idea, but personally when trying anything new I will always research from a number of different sources.  Would be good as a guide, but there is so much out there already as mentioned it almost seems a little pointless
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: Hooper1888 on June 01, 2013, 06:34 pm
Would like to see this happen.
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: 4thdimensionabsurdist on June 01, 2013, 06:59 pm
I'm willing to do the Jenkem section

I can supply some homemade if anyones interested
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: MushroomMagician on June 01, 2013, 07:06 pm
Perhaps a wiki would be the best medium for this.
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: mdmamazing01 on June 01, 2013, 11:44 pm
I have come up with An Idea.
A FULL drugs guide created by the members of this forum, especially those who really know their niches.
Everything from weed to computer duster and psychedelics that are still totally unresearched.
We could include interviews with vendors, picture guides and user experiences.
Is it possible?
All input is appreciated.
I'll start with an article on weed for the total beginner that should be finished in a few hours.


erm...erowid?
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: Skjolle on June 02, 2013, 01:11 am
I hate to say that there is plenty of this on the internet :p
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: mdmamazing01 on June 02, 2013, 01:49 am
Seriously, before you out more energy into this - search for erowid on the net - it has about 10 years worth of the kind of info you are talking about. Not shooting your idea down - just don't want you to expend energy on something that has been done very well already.
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: thekimber on June 02, 2013, 05:10 am
SO MANY WEBSITES ALREADY
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: dmc002 on June 02, 2013, 05:38 am
Quote
Seriously, before you out more energy into this - search for erowid on the net - it has about 10 years worth of the kind of info you are talking about. Not shooting your idea down - just don't want you to expend energy on something that has been done very well already.

Erowid has more than 10 years experience. I was using Erowid back in 2002 and it had already been around a while back then.
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: NeverLeNkemise on June 02, 2013, 06:03 pm
Thanks for the input guys/gals!
I've thought of a wiki, and have seen guides on the internet such as Erowid, but a full guide in pdf that could be printed and with reliable info for all types of users, from first time smokers, to those needing information in a medical application is what I'm aiming for.
I am currently organizing sections and subsections. This is what I've come up so far:

Substance types:
-Depressants
-Stimulants
-Opioids
-Psychedelics
-Other

Within these, all the main substances, or families for psychedelics?

And under each substance:
-Background
-History
-Chemical synthesis/other chemical info
-Effects
-Doseage/Timescale[+comedown]/Method of application
-Side effects/Dangers/Prevention
-Addiction [mental/physical]
-Legal status
-Cocktails/redosing
-Similar substances

I've looked through Erowid, Bluelight, and many others. Yet they lack a structured consistency as well as an inconvenient structure [for me at least]
The guides are mostly for the intermediate users, and there's little advanced info, or guides for total beginners...
Thanks again for any inputs, I'm just one user, but together this might be possible.
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: deepinblu on June 02, 2013, 06:10 pm
Why on Earth make another one? There are dozens of websites with the same purpose that have existed for years and have pretty much everything already covered.
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: NeverLeNkemise on June 02, 2013, 06:21 pm
I get that the info is already out there...
But I've put my reasons for making this up, no point in reminding me of the existing resources...
Most of the info out there is like I said, for the intermediate user, and unverifiable...
The aim is to create a useable guide for ALL, that is reliable, and uses input from the expert users and narcotic geniuses.
If anyone has a lot of knowledge/experience on any specific substance, it'd be great for you to 'put your name down'.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: MO2021 on June 02, 2013, 06:43 pm
The only issue I see with your idea of a pdf guide is how long it would be. There are so many different drugs, drug combinations, and difference in opinions that this guide would be at least a few hundred pages. The reason sites like erowid and bluelight work is that they can be navigated and searched to find the information you are looking for. Creating what is essentially a guide book to drugs seems like a step backward from the current sources of information.

Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: tadman1 on June 02, 2013, 07:03 pm
loads of this already available :)
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: Dutch81 on June 02, 2013, 07:05 pm
I support you.
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: tree on June 02, 2013, 07:51 pm
It could be a good Idea, erowid doesn't have info on every substance. You could also put what vendors are are good to get them from, since it'd mostly be a silkroad thing right? Having things like an effect list for each substance would make it more complete than erowid, which only has one for more mainstream drugs. You'd need to put it in the form of a wiki I think... A book would be way too big and a little annoying to use. At least all info would be in one place, but it'd be a ton of work. I'd take all info erowid has and just add what it doesn't have to make it easier.
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: straavaldsen on June 02, 2013, 08:03 pm
i've never not found what i was looking for on Erowid.
Love that site, regular contributor & donator  ;D
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: tree on June 02, 2013, 08:09 pm
i've never not found what i was looking for on Erowid.
Love that site, regular contributor & donator  ;D
Well for example they don't have so much information on things like Ibogaine, or even heroin and cocaine. Other drugs like GHB and shrooms are extremely detailed though, and I think it would be good to have a guide that gives the info erowid doesn't. Well... you can tell how a drug feels like from reports but an effect list and description is really good to have a quick overview of how a drug is. There's also zero information on obscure drugs there so it could be a good opportunity to try to document those kind of substances as well.
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: MasterChief66 on June 02, 2013, 08:24 pm
Good idea...
...but too many web sites already exist on the subject, in any language ...
Erowid, Bluelight, Psychonaut, Lucid States, etc..

After if it is to make a specific pdf to SR and well detailed, why not!
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: codemonkey on June 02, 2013, 08:31 pm
i've never not found what i was looking for on Erowid.
Love that site, regular contributor & donator  ;D
Well for example they don't have so much information on things like Ibogaine, or even heroin and cocaine. Other drugs like GHB and shrooms are extremely detailed though, and I think it would be good to have a guide that gives the info erowid doesn't. Well... you can tell how a drug feels like from reports but an effect list and description is really good to have a quick overview of how a drug is. There's also zero information on obscure drugs there so it could be a good opportunity to try to document those kind of substances as well.
I agree, while there are tons of resources none of them are all inclusive. Which isn't completely a downside, as even if they were, it is always smart to vet information from multiple sources.


I think the other important aspects of us having our own will go a long way to further strengthening OUR communities' self sufficiency. And it will provide a resource that is comprised of user experiences and drug info of the actual substances here on SR. This is a very important part, especially when dealing with substances that are highly dose dependent or will likely have varying analogs across different communities. The info and especially the user experiences should carry more weight as the providers of each should be more readily at hand to further vet or correct info as it is provided.

Plus, did I mention, it will be OURS, the SR community's! =)

I'm game for it and would be happy to contribute towards some of the more research heavy side of some common substances.

-Codemonkey
Title: Re: Total Drugs Guide
Post by: codemonkey on June 02, 2013, 08:39 pm
The only issue I see with your idea of a pdf guide is how long it would be. There are so many different drugs, drug combinations, and difference in opinions that this guide would be at least a few hundred pages. The reason sites like erowid and bluelight work is that they can be navigated and searched to find the information you are looking for. Creating what is essentially a guide book to drugs seems like a step backward from the current sources of information.

Yes, it would probably be a good idea to offer up the info in multiple ways.
1. An all inclusive PDF of everything for offline enjoyment.
2. A google docs or similar type structure where you can have an index pdf that links to appropriate sections and back.
3. a plain text mirror of the entire guide and separate sections for those of us who don't trust pdfs and/or are still living in the 90's with our custom 'poisoned routers/BNC' terminals.  :-*