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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Reason on August 23, 2013, 11:11 am

Title: Do SR Cannabis vendors support legalization?
Post by: Reason on August 23, 2013, 11:11 am
Hi All!

It certainly seems like Cannabis legalization advocates are starting to make real progress in the last few years.  Washington State and Colorado, are now on the road for full legalization by January 2014.  Uraguay is going to be the first Nation that will fully endorse legal weed.

If this continues, who knows.

This is thrilling to me (certainly a long time advocate), but it occurs to me that many of our wonderful SR Cannabis vendors might not be so enthusiastic. 

So my question to them is, do you support it?  What would it mean for you?  What would you do afterwards?  Importantly, how could your long time loyal clients help if that does come to pass (we owe you that much!).

R.
Title: Re: Do SR Cannabis vendors support legalization?
Post by: Locker on August 23, 2013, 03:18 pm
Hi All!

It certainly seems like Cannabis legalization advocates are starting to make real progress in the last few years.  Washington State and Colorado, are now on the road for full legalization by January 2014.  Uraguay is going to be the first Nation that will fully endorse legal weed.

If this continues, who knows.

This is thrilling to me (certainly a long time advocate), but it occurs to me that many of our wonderful SR Cannabis vendors might not be so enthusiastic. 

So my question to them is, do you support it?  What would it mean for you?  What would you do afterwards?  Importantly, how could your long time loyal clients help if that does come to pass (we owe you that much!).

R.

Personally, living in the UK, we can do whatever we like but I do not see Cannabis being legalize in even the distant future over here, so I wouldn't worry about legalization as a domestic UK Vender ;D
But regarding Washington and Colarado, I feel that for a complete legalization of Cannabis it is going to take a long time, possible a decade or two at least, but with more and more states waking up to the medical/recreational properties and demand for the plank, I feel that the only way Silk Road vendors are going to keep up to the US buyers is simply provide a better service, better weed and more competitive prices, hell even move onto something else.
All I know, is that the UK is never going to properly become a country that will legalize and advocate the use of weed any time in the distant future, so I will simply carry on buying from SR and locally, simply envying the people of Colarado being able to walk to a shop and buy an ounce of weed, and even grow their own.

Tl;dr: It doesn't effect me, I will carry on smoking weed and buying from sr and locally.
One love ;D
Locker.
Title: Re: Do SR Cannabis vendors support legalization?
Post by: offbeatadam on August 23, 2013, 03:41 pm
Hi All!

It certainly seems like Cannabis legalization advocates are starting to make real progress in the last few years.  Washington State and Colorado, are now on the road for full legalization by January 2014.  Uraguay is going to be the first Nation that will fully endorse legal weed.

If this continues, who knows.

This is thrilling to me (certainly a long time advocate), but it occurs to me that many of our wonderful SR Cannabis vendors might not be so enthusiastic. 

So my question to them is, do you support it?  What would it mean for you?  What would you do afterwards?  Importantly, how could your long time loyal clients help if that does come to pass (we owe you that much!).

R.

Personally, living in the UK, we can do whatever we like but I do not see Cannabis being legalize in even the distant future over here, so I wouldn't worry about legalization as a domestic UK Vender ;D
But regarding Washington and Colarado, I feel that for a complete legalization of Cannabis it is going to take a long time, possible a decade or two at least, but with more and more states waking up to the medical/recreational properties and demand for the plank, I feel that the only way Silk Road vendors are going to keep up to the US buyers is simply provide a better service, better weed and more competitive prices, hell even move onto something else.
All I know, is that the UK is never going to properly become a country that will legalize and advocate the use of weed any time in the distant future, so I will simply carry on buying from SR and locally, simply envying the people of Colarado being able to walk to a shop and buy an ounce of weed, and even grow their own.

Tl;dr: It doesn't effect me, I will carry on smoking weed and buying from sr and locally.
One love ;D
Locker.

I'm neither a smoker nor a vendor. I do agree though with the US belief. I think that to a certain extent, it will become as legalized as it possibly can... but eventually its going to have to come under the ATF. Doing that, is going to take a LOT of changes, the addition of all kinds of packaging and tax requirements, its going to be cigarettes & tobacco all over again. It'll put all kinds of really confusing changes in place that are basically going to equal regulation and tax fees that everyone is going to dodge anyways - thus, the need for SR still exists.

There will also be the issue of travel. While it may be legal here, and in BC, Quebec will probably take forever to follow suit - they're too busy trying to figure out if they're french or english. With that, and Quebec's natural french idealism, they will not care that basically labelling any american that comes over with a joint to be breaking the law will ultimately be tourism suicde for them. That is going to cause a border issue, and we'll still need to get pot there anyways.

I don't think, at least in the short term next decade or so... that cannabis will have any competition from the liquor stores and gas station cigarette stands.
Title: Re: Do SR Cannabis vendors support legalization?
Post by: Locker on August 23, 2013, 03:49 pm
Hi All!

It certainly seems like Cannabis legalization advocates are starting to make real progress in the last few years.  Washington State and Colorado, are now on the road for full legalization by January 2014.  Uraguay is going to be the first Nation that will fully endorse legal weed.

If this continues, who knows.

This is thrilling to me (certainly a long time advocate), but it occurs to me that many of our wonderful SR Cannabis vendors might not be so enthusiastic. 

So my question to them is, do you support it?  What would it mean for you?  What would you do afterwards?  Importantly, how could your long time loyal clients help if that does come to pass (we owe you that much!).

R.

Personally, living in the UK, we can do whatever we like but I do not see Cannabis being legalize in even the distant future over here, so I wouldn't worry about legalization as a domestic UK Vender ;D
But regarding Washington and Colarado, I feel that for a complete legalization of Cannabis it is going to take a long time, possible a decade or two at least, but with more and more states waking up to the medical/recreational properties and demand for the plank, I feel that the only way Silk Road vendors are going to keep up to the US buyers is simply provide a better service, better weed and more competitive prices, hell even move onto something else.
All I know, is that the UK is never going to properly become a country that will legalize and advocate the use of weed any time in the distant future, so I will simply carry on buying from SR and locally, simply envying the people of Colarado being able to walk to a shop and buy an ounce of weed, and even grow their own.

Tl;dr: It doesn't effect me, I will carry on smoking weed and buying from sr and locally.
One love ;D
Locker.

I'm neither a smoker nor a vendor. I do agree though with the US belief. I think that to a certain extent, it will become as legalized as it possibly can... but eventually its going to have to come under the ATF. Doing that, is going to take a LOT of changes, the addition of all kinds of packaging and tax requirements, its going to be cigarettes & tobacco all over again. It'll put all kinds of really confusing changes in place that are basically going to equal regulation and tax fees that everyone is going to dodge anyways - thus, the need for SR still exists.

There will also be the issue of travel. While it may be legal here, and in BC, Quebec will probably take forever to follow suit - they're too busy trying to figure out if they're french or english. With that, and Quebec's natural french idealism, they will not care that basically labelling any american that comes over with a joint to be breaking the law will ultimately be tourism suicde for them. That is going to cause a border issue, and we'll still need to get pot there anyways.

I don't think, at least in the short term next decade or so... that cannabis will have any competition from the liquor stores and gas station cigarette stands.
Yeah,
Honestly I feel that people are going to continue to go to sr, depending on how badly they tax this shit.
But still, being able to grow yourself, and some of the other laws changed I'd love to be in Colorado when all of these changes happen! ;D
Title: Re: Do SR Cannabis vendors support legalization?
Post by: ScoobyDoo on August 23, 2013, 05:15 pm
I'm not a vendor but I support legalization.
But I don't think that will come until LE develops some sort of method to detect drivers that are under the influence of cannabis.
Title: Re: Do SR Cannabis vendors support legalization?
Post by: SealTeam6 on August 23, 2013, 05:23 pm
I support full legalization but it won't be occurring anytime soon, if it does I would love to open a dispensary.
Title: Re: Do SR Cannabis vendors support legalization?
Post by: deep987 on August 23, 2013, 05:49 pm
I hope they support legalization.

I know I would still use SR. A lot of people are looking at legalization as a potential source of revenue and tax the shit out of it. If that's what it takes to get it passed then fine, but that doesn't mean I'm interested in paying a tax that I don't have to. If i was a tobacco smoker, I'd get my cigs from those mail order eastern Europe suppliers too.
Title: Re: Do SR Cannabis vendors support legalization?
Post by: offbeatadam on August 23, 2013, 06:44 pm
I'm not a vendor but I support legalization.
But I don't think that will come until LE develops some sort of method to detect drivers that are under the influence of cannabis.

Yea, this is another thing. This goes for all drugs too. The effects aren't as specific as alcohol, everyone truly reacts differently - in such a manner that one person could be knocked on his ass while another could be completely great.

I feel that in order for things to become truly legal, we might need some more studies done in order to truly identify the very specific effects, as well as identify methods for testing whether or not someone is driving under that influence. I don't like the fact that they use a drug test right now that basically turns out positive if you'd done it in the last week, even though while driving you were sober as a nun.

True freedom is a long ways away, and true freedom is something that isn't going to be the same for everyone. While we might want to be able to do any stupid thin we choose, there will have to be some compromise... particularly in the face of public safety.
Title: Re: Do SR Cannabis vendors support legalization?
Post by: wrathmore on August 23, 2013, 07:32 pm
I feel that legalization of cannabis along with all other drugs is a long time coming. i mean its  not going to happen in the uk for sure, it seems to get more and more strict there. however somewhere like portugal which has decriminalised all drugs meaning that all users arent persecuted rather dealers are tackled. I think its down to personal choice with all drugs, i mean it wouldnt stop SR due to a black market demand and it would likely deter kids and stop glamourising drugs as much.
Title: Re: Do SR Cannabis vendors support legalization?
Post by: Reason on August 24, 2013, 12:58 pm
Thanks to you all for such thoughtful replies. 

I'm taken aback that so many of you feel that Cannabis legalization is not coming sooner rather than later.  I guess I'm an optimist.  I even saw that a prominent politician in Canada (Treudeu) recently admitted to using weed "after" he got into office.  That is a real indicator of how the wind is blowing if you as me.

But back to the point, in my mind if it is legalized, even if it's taxed highly, I'd not expect many people to continue to use SR for purchasing it.

For one, there's the ever present fear of being busted, and that is a pretty strong deterent (when compared to walking down the street and purchasing it legally).  Secondly, I'd expect that an above-groud market would allow consumers greater opporunity to compare quality, price, etc.  Here on the SR, it's much harder to window shop...it really is a buyer beware scenario.  Finally the regulations would give consumers some confidence that the product has not been adulterated with  pesticides or has mold, etc. 

However...as long as there is something that big brother doesn't want you to have or know and you want to have or know it... there will surely be a Silk Road you can travel to get it.   
Title: Re: Do SR Cannabis vendors support legalization?
Post by: neplusultra on August 24, 2013, 02:17 pm
Hi All!

It certainly seems like Cannabis legalization advocates are starting to make real progress in the last few years.  Washington State and Colorado, are now on the road for full legalization by January 2014.  Uraguay is going to be the first Nation that will fully endorse legal weed.

If this continues, who knows.

This is thrilling to me (certainly a long time advocate), but it occurs to me that many of our wonderful SR Cannabis vendors might not be so enthusiastic. 

So my question to them is, do you support it?  What would it mean for you?  What would you do afterwards?  Importantly, how could your long time loyal clients help if that does come to pass (we owe you that much!).

R.

I was born in Montevideo. My mom emailed me an article the other day talking about the legalization of cannabis there. I was blow away by the fact that she shows interest in this kind of thing, she's always been straight-edge lol.