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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: NevilleNobody on September 07, 2011, 10:39 am
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What's the difference in speed from country to countty? Here, we call it speed or go-ee or white or whatever and I think it's called methyl amphetamine. It's quite psycho active, very high on the stim props and make for manic loving when you have a partner.
I've bought some stuff called "high quality speed paste" for a rep vendor on here and was not much stronger than a good coffee. Is that to be expected or did I just end up with a poor product? Should I be looking to buy something with a diff name? Oh, method of consumption is usually rubbed on the gums.
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I will elaborate on that in a few hours. got errands to run now
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'Speed' can refer to a number of substances, usually amphetamine or methamphetamine. From my understanding, 'speed' in Europe usually refers to amphetamine (can come as a paste or the freebase in an oil IIRC), I'm guessing racemic amphetamine. In the US, it typically refers to methamphetamine, usually dextromethamphetamine ('glass', 'ice', 'crystal', etc). There is quite a gap between the effects of racemic amphetamine vs dextro-meth, so you need to ask the seller specifically what kind of amphetamine they are selling.
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Methamphetamine (Ice, Crystal, Meth) is very rare and uncommon in Europe. Only in CZ it is available, they call it "Pico".
Speed always is amphetamine sulphate, nobody will offer Methamphetamine as Speed, these terms are not interchangeable in general.
I guess methamphetamine is called speed in the us because illict produced amphetamine is very uncommon since the precursors for methamphetamine were (or still are) readily available.
Speed paste is either a mixture of solvents, cutting agents, caffeine and amphetamine or it is the real deal! Real paste is just not fully titrated amphetamine, which as free base is an oil. They just do not add enough sulphuric acid to crystallize the whole mass. The result is a highly pure paste, usually 10% caffeine is added then to bind the remaining free base oil.
Sadly, these days are over. Even the dutch do not export top quality, it is very rare to get product >80% purity. Some people turn 1kg of this paste into 4kg speed - that kind of product would never touch my nose ^^
I attached pics of how common paste these days looks like and pics of standard amphetamine
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What about Polish speed is that amphetamine as well?
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What about Polish speed is that amphetamine as well?
Yes, it is racemic amphetamine sulphate + cuttings agents. The polish stuff tends to have a slightly yellow tint sometimes. This is because there is some residue of the precursor in the final product.
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Thanks for that explanation streetpharmacy. I now understand the differences and I think what I purchased must simply have been a very poor quality product. (even though it came from a very reputable vendor)
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I had 250mg this arvo and it gave a slight buzz and lift for 30-45 mins. The street stuff around here is much better albeit a lot pricier. I think I might give the US stuff a go. Can it simply be ingested or taken under the tongue? I really don't like the idea of smoking anything after stopping smoking cigs 8 months ago.
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One final thought - would the Ice Speed pills from MrOiud perhaps be what I'm after?
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/5212
Just want something to make me and partner ping and go all night like the local stuff.
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idk but if these ICE pills are of north american origin the most definitely contain methamphetamine
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European speed is racemic amphetamine which, as a drug, is inferior to methamphetamine (aka. methylamphetamine) ... purity aside.
In Australia the speed/goey powder that you sniff in lines is 5-20% meth (either racemic or dextro), ice/crystal is high-purity dextro-methamphetamine.... base or whatever varies somewhere in between. Speed/base/meth/ice in Australia is all the same thing: methamphetamine with varying degree of cuts/impurities.
And yeah "meth" in the US is usually what we call ice here, I don't think heavily cut "speed" is around much there.
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Have you got some? I'm buying.