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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: krepancy on January 19, 2012, 03:39 am

Title: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: krepancy on January 19, 2012, 03:39 am
All the ecstasy i find locally are 100% fake piperazine shit, so i wanted to buy some on here and there are never any ecstasy sellers in the U.S, so i had to buy some internationally. Bought like 5 from one guy in Germany and bought another 5 from a guy in the Netherlands. Neither purchases ever madie it to my house, im guessing they were both taken by customs and i only got a partial refund for one of the orders.

so whats even the point?, it takes 3x as long to deliver, shipping cost 3x as more, its about 300x more risky, and what you get the package 3/10 times.

I really think everyone should stop ordering out of there continent.
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: seakong on January 19, 2012, 03:52 am
I'll have some domestic rolls up soon ;)

Reagent tests will be posted as well
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: krepancy on January 19, 2012, 04:08 am
looking forward to it
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: theradblur on January 19, 2012, 04:18 am
You have to know the risks are significantly higher when shipping internationally. You have to be willing to lose on international orders, because there is just a lot more that can go wrong. At least it wasn't a big order. I always go domestic if I can.
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: FiveSeven on January 19, 2012, 05:34 am
Pills are one of the riskiest things to ship, as they are easily detected by customs' scanners. A brief read of these forums would tell that molly was the much better option to buy internationally. Oh well.
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: Mecajesus on January 19, 2012, 05:48 am
Haha, bummer you can't find any good X locally! Makes me glad i live in the mid-west, nearly everything out here.
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: OnlyBiting on January 19, 2012, 08:41 pm
International is unreliable so buyers prefer national postage...

 ...but how do buyers find sellers in thier country?
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: Aoth14 on January 20, 2012, 04:07 am
Netherlands to U.s. is just something they automatically open. EVERY package I've received from their was opened. You should get a letter though. Or is that above federal budget these days?

Funny thing is, I was getting ratty looking packages of hardcore drugs from the middle east at that time,that would show up with white powder pouring out the sides and pcp squirting out the top. Some of those would even be green taped,but never seized. Oh how I miss the 90s
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: doublemint on January 20, 2012, 04:11 am
All the ecstasy i find locally are 100% fake piperazine shit, so i wanted to buy some on here and there are never any ecstasy sellers in the U.S, so i had to buy some internationally. Bought like 5 from one guy in Germany and bought another 5 from a guy in the Netherlands. Neither purchases ever madie it to my house, im guessing they were both taken by customs and i only got a partial refund for one of the orders.

so whats even the point?, it takes 3x as long to deliver, shipping cost 3x as more, its about 300x more risky, and what you get the package 3/10 times.

I really think everyone should stop ordering out of there continent.

You aren't supposed to order internationally. Almost NOBODY does it. Why would you bother making this thread, none of us are stupid enough to order out of the Netherlands.
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: blueangel on January 20, 2012, 04:12 am
Netherlands to U.s. is just something they automatically open. EVERY package I've received from their was opened. You should get a letter though. Or is that above federal budget these days?

how accurate is this statement?
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: OldGuard on January 20, 2012, 12:36 pm
I used to order from the Dam off of another site a couple of years ago and received 7-8 packages over about 1 year period and never had a problem receiving them and none were ever opened. I have not ordered from there in about 2 years (site is still open and selling) so I do not know if policy has changed but I doubt they open all packages, do they look closer at them I am sure they do but with all the domestic sellers I decided it was safer to avoid crossing borders so only order local now.
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: marsvolta12 on January 20, 2012, 01:26 pm
as long as you pick a trustworthy vendor with great packaging, ordering international is the only way to go. Also, almost everyone i know on here(at least in my town)  uses this site for ecstasy since quality in the USA is horrendous. If you want domestic then get from paperchasing's listings since he resells for mitanox and ivory. They have some of the best mdma and stealthiest shipping i have experienced. I have never lost a package out of the many to them. Also the statement about how no-one orders internationally is highly mistaken, just deal with the OG'S that have graced this website long enough that they sail through customs(mitanox,ivory, streetpharmacy). once again if you are still paranoid work with paperchasing. He is backed up by the best sellers on here and can be trusted
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: Edge69 on January 20, 2012, 01:49 pm
Can anyone tell me how risky Netherlands to UK deliveries are? Say 5g's of mdma from someone like AAKoven?
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: racidacid on January 20, 2012, 02:38 pm
Ordered some Weed from the dam to UK got here fine! also just got my coke from Germany!
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: onestopshop on January 20, 2012, 08:55 pm
Bought like 5 from one guy in Germany and bought another 5 from a guy in the Netherlands. Neither purchases ever madie it to my house,

Too many variables to dismiss ordering items "outside your continent" ...You could have been unlucky, poor packaging, your address could have been placed on a "watchlist" after the first failed delivery e.t.c ...
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: doublemint on January 20, 2012, 09:12 pm
Netherlands to U.s. is just something they automatically open. EVERY package I've received from their was opened. You should get a letter though. Or is that above federal budget these days?

how accurate is this statement?
100%
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: robin999 on January 21, 2012, 12:33 am
I've gotten four packages from NL to USA (both molly and pills), all of them arrived without incident, and none were opened. You guys either have bad luck or you're ordering from the wrong vendors.
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: v01d on January 21, 2012, 01:28 am
You ordered 5 pills of a schedule 1 drug internationally and are upset it didnt come? I'd be surprised if it DID come.
You want to order molly. I haven't heard of anyone losing a package of Ivory's. Dopeboy is right up there in Canada. Paparchasing reships domestically.
You have options.

Can anyone tell me how risky Netherlands to UK deliveries are? Say 5g's of mdma from someone like AAKoven?
Decently risky. Why not just go domestic with Ivory?
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: onestopshop on January 21, 2012, 01:58 am
NL to UK is normally fine, the proximity and history of the 2 countries means it's less suspicious then NL to US.
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: OldGuard on January 21, 2012, 01:10 pm
Netherlands to U.s. is just something they automatically open. EVERY package I've received from their was opened. You should get a letter though. Or is that above federal budget these days?

how accurate is this statement?

Absolute 0% . . .  The only way they would open a package is if that had good reason, they might be more likely to run a drug dog through the area with packages from certain country but they NEVER just blindly open packages just because they come from a certain location.
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: aspire2b on January 21, 2012, 03:44 pm
I have had some pretty good luck ordering internationally (and domestically) but lately the US doesn't care too much about civil liberties or that old document called the constitution. If they suspect a package they probably just open it, if nothing, they tape it back up, if they find something, they claim the dogs sniffed something.

They do whatever they want, not whats right.

-Aspire
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: marsvolta12 on January 21, 2012, 05:34 pm
I don't think any of us can accurately state how many packages get confiscated(much less the grand statement that all do). it is nothing but conjecture and in my personal experience with NL i have gotten many packages through unopened(from mitanox and freedompeople). it all counts on who you deal with, which is why it is important to only deal with OG'S that have been on here for a while
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: zerostate976 on January 21, 2012, 10:12 pm
Im leaning towards your very unlucky, or perhaps you live in washington DC or another place that screens mail more than others.  I know someone that is 4/4 from .NL with both molly and pills.  The pills where basically just put into a padded envelop and shipped and still made it.
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: abuttelmao on January 22, 2012, 12:07 am
I have had some pretty good luck ordering internationally (and domestically) but lately the US doesn't care too much about civil liberties or that old document called the constitution. If they suspect a package they probably just open it, if nothing, they tape it back up, if they find something, they claim the dogs sniffed something.

They do whatever they want, not whats right.

-Aspire

um customs laws trump whatever protections are provided by the constitution.  that's why it's always safer and more reliable to get things domestically.  it's always been that way and will always be that way.
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: Asbjorn on January 22, 2012, 12:15 am
Ecstasy is something you probably wanna order domestic.
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: betaraybob on January 22, 2012, 10:51 pm
I have ordered from both Ivory straight up and Dopeboy to US. No problems at all getting to me. Just seeing alot of the reviews of other EU vendors makes me avoid them. Not about the product, just that alot of orders never get to buyer(US). Maybe in the future I might give one a try but for now I got trusted sellers.
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: gaia on January 23, 2012, 12:10 pm
i've not placed a local order on here since i've been here, mainly cos everything i've ever got in the UK recently is shite and has been cut to buggery, but i've had several from the states, thailand, germany and belgium all get to me no worries.

I don't get this statement at all. The MDMA and pill market in the UK is the best it's been in years. Just one scan through BL or PR will show this.
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: ProudCannabian on January 23, 2012, 02:40 pm
I don't know that MOST people order domestically, as I'm not SR and don't know the actual numbers.
I DO know that I am more likely to order internationally, purely due to the fact that it's easier for cops to arrange sting ops within their country of origin.  This isn't a huge concern, but it does lean me towards international more than national.
I research the folks I buy off of on the forums, and so far I have never lost a package.
If I do, then I'll likely revisit this strategy.
Good luck folks!
Title: Re: Im just gonna stop ordering internationally
Post by: aspire2b on January 23, 2012, 03:08 pm
I have had some pretty good luck ordering internationally (and domestically) but lately the US doesn't care too much about civil liberties or that old document called the constitution. If they suspect a package they probably just open it, if nothing, they tape it back up, if they find something, they claim the dogs sniffed something.

They do whatever they want, not whats right.

-Aspire

um customs laws trump whatever protections are provided by the constitution.  that's why it's always safer and more reliable to get things domestically.  it's always been that way and will always be that way.

This may be the case, but it shouldn't be like this. Constitution is the law of the land, and the highest law, but this government hasn't respected it in a long time.

-Aspire