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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: KingJoey on November 23, 2011, 01:36 am
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So I tryed to place a whopping $70 order with PayThePiper and this guy tells me to finalize early.....So I tell him 2 check my transaction history that shows $4,000 in transactions in the last month with around 40 transactions and 0% refund rate and he says I still have to finalize because I could be a scammer...
Now you tell me.......does this guy sound like a scammer?
What more could you hope for than a buyer with $4,000 in transactions in the last MONTH with around 40 buys and 0% refund?
Does my record not speak for itself?
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I'm pretty sure he's legit. If he scammed even one person, you'd see it in his feedback.
It just sounds like you both are skeptical- which is good.
More and more sellers are demanding early finalization because legit sellers are being scammed by buyers. It goes both ways.
I personally would have no problem finalizing early with that seller.
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So I tryed to place a whopping $70 order with PayThePiper and this guy tells me to finalize early.....So I tell him 2 check my transaction history that shows $4,000 in transactions in the last month with around 40 transactions and 0% refund rate and he says I still have to finalize because I could be a scammer...
Now you tell me.......does this guy sound like a scammer?
What more could you hope for than a buyer with $4,000 in transactions in the last MONTH with around 40 buys and 0% refund?
Does my record not speak for itself?
I think this is a fair point, escrow is there to protect the buyer and seller and at what point should a seller accept a great record like KingJoey and follow escrow. I would understand if the buyer had a questionable record then sure request early finalization, but in this case it does not seem warranted?
Just my humble opinion....
Hoffa
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Thanks for your help Viktor. I have never gone through him but too be honest I was offended at first. But you do make a valid point if alot of people are being scammed. But it would cost me alot of money too build an account to scam for $70. If I was a scammer that would mean I paid silk road a total of $260 if there fee is 6% which I dunno if it is but I think its around that.
I hope hes not a scammer but it has me very skeptical. One the one hand I placed an order for $400 no questions asked and then on the other hand I get a guy that I put a $70 order in ask me to finalize early.
I am no stranger too the forums and I know its foolish too finalize early
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While it is a good thing to err on the side of caution, I don't believe you should have started this thread. Feedback on the marketplace obviously cannot be trusted, but a quick search for PayThePiper on these forums would yield several positive reviews from established members, plenty enough to alleviate one's concerns.
Now there's a thread with a title that may lead some to believe a trusted vendor is a scammer. Is that a good thing?
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mrgrey: Do you think I should lie and say I dont have $4,000 in transactions when sellers can easily verify that I do have $4,000 in transactions this month alone? Why are you mad at me because I have $4,000 in transactions did I do something wrong?
I respect other peoples view points so its not a big deal for me. But I must admit that all of my life certain people have shown disdain towards me, especially if they dont care for me and then they come too the conclusion that I am financially sound. I have noticed that really seems too frustrate some people. By now I have figured out either people like me alot too the point they really respect me and consider me a close friend or they hate me. There is no middle for me because I have a strong personality.
But I am a good guy and I try too do something good each day so I dont see why you should be mad at me because I am able to figure out how to have a little bit of stuff. I am not rich by any means. I have 1 car and an apartment. I have many nice things but I wouldn't go so far as too say I am a baller.
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You're fine. I've ordered from him several times around the same price, and once, my order was fucked up. He or she, however, made good. Granted, I've never finalized outside of escrow.
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mrgrey- you should stop reading my posts/threads. All you do is cry and complain and try too make me look bad and start drama. I don't care about you at all and I specifically avoid posts you have replied too because I dont want too deal with you at all. But its clear too see that you care about me allot because you wont go away.
Your goal by posting reply's too my threads is too try to discredit me and too convince other people too dislike me. You are not contributing anything too the community by trying to "flame" me all the time. Your childish. I am ignoring you in every single post from now on because my goal is too improve the community and too make valid posts that others can benefit from while your goal is too just get other people too dislike me.
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fair enough bro ;)
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So I tryed to place a whopping $70 order with PayThePiper and this guy tells me to finalize early.....So I tell him 2 check my transaction history that shows $4,000 in transactions in the last month with around 40 transactions and 0% refund rate and he says I still have to finalize because I could be a scammer...
Now you tell me.......does this guy sound like a scammer?
What more could you hope for than a buyer with $4,000 in transactions in the last MONTH with around 40 buys and 0% refund?
Does my record not speak for itself?
Listen man. I never called you a scammer. I said, probably in these exact words, "I have a policy that if ANY buyer orders over a certain amount they need to finalize early". When you came back and told me how amazing you were and how much money you spent all I said was - and this is word for word - "it's just a policy of mine"and "it's nothing against you personally".
Listen I don't care if you spend $100,000 a month on here and have a zero refund rate. I'm still gonna make you finalize early. I'm been played by WAY to many people to give a damn about that. I care about protecting myself. Plain and simple.
Also since you're so into stats and how much money you spend did you happen to look into mine? Well here are my stats: 140 transactions, been here a little less than two months and have a 99.4% positive feedback and ranked 32 out of 212 sellers.
Hmmmm. I wonder how many scammers could get those kind of ratings.
How about next time you start a thread about someone being a scammer you do a little bit of research and use a little bit of your brain instead of your money to make a decision.
I'm out. Obviously this guys thread was a waste of my time and anyone who read it.
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Really I was hoping to just get your feedback on this issue. I am glad that you gave me some further insight. Thanks for your time.
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Its funny how 2 different people got mad at me when I mentioned my purchasing stats for relevant reasons. I never said anything about being great too you either. LOL. I just state the facts, like my purchasing stats and people mistake that for bragging. I really do it and thats not bragging. I am a good customer and I spend a decent amount on SR. In another month I will probably have more buys than you have sells and I certainly will of spent more than the entire amount of what you sold.
I am sorry that you took anything I said offensively but a scammer could EASILY make a top 10 vendor account without spending $1 in SR fees. But a scammer would have to spend $260 to create a buyer account with my track record. So based on that logic I was concerned when I was asked to finalize.
You know how long it would take for a scammer to create a top 10 vendor account.......1-2 weeks. I am not going too tell you how too do it but it can be done.
I am glad you came here and responded. thanks for that and I hope that you dont get scammed any more in the future. I honestly have no idea what vendors go through with scammers. I did realize that after Viktor left a comment. After that it made more sense for you to ask for early finalization but it still isn't in my best interest to finalize early.
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I think what people are saying is that you talk about yourself a lot, and you seem to be seeking attention. It's generally a quality that a younger person takes to on the internet. I'm not thrashing you, so don't take it personally. Just callsing it like I sees it.
Now that the man himself has taken the time to come here and address what is basically a very thinly veiled accusation, the proper thing to do would be to edit the thread title so it doesn't pull up immediately on a title search. Whether or not you realize it, just a thread with a title like this can have an effect on a vendor's business.
Be kind.
Do The Right Thing.
"Let me tell you the story of Right Hand, Left Hand. It's a tale of good and evil. Hate: it was with this hand that Cane iced his brother. Love: these five fingers, they go straight to the soul of man. The right hand: the hand of love. The story of life is this: static. One hand is always fighting the other hand, and the left hand is kicking much ass. I mean, it looks like the right hand, Love, is finished. But hold on, stop the presses, the right hand is coming back. Yeah, he got the left hand on the ropes, now, that's right. Ooh, it's a devastating right and Hate is hurt, he's down. Left-Hand Hate KOed by Love."
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Viktor - you are correct. Thanks for pointing that out. I have changed the title. I dont want to hurt anyones business. But I needed clarification on this issue.
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PTP never asked me to finalize early. My order came as quickly as I could expect and the product was legit.
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PTP is 100% legit, but I am very disappointed in his "ONAX" brand alprazolam bars, they are extremely weak. A whole "2mg" bar feels like half a generic 1mg football!!
anyone else think onax are junk?
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They're legit onax bars... but they just dont do anything, make me slightly sleepy for about an hour then I'm normal.
I'd avoid buying onax from PTP, his service and shipping are great though.
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maybe the onax are extended release? who knows, they're junk to me.
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the form of the bars are legit, pharmaceutical pressed. But there has to be about 0.5mg total alprazolam in each one
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Actually yes they are legit and pharmaceutically pressed.
But next time someone talks about my products know what you're talking about. According to my research (no not Wikipedia like most "research" is done by you folks - but Online Journals)studies have shown they have between 1.7 to 2.5mgs of alprazolam in them.
If you don't want my products than don't buy them.
Simple.
What's funny is 3/4 of you are returned buyers. This is just a shit talking forum and I'm sick of it.