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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: fisher on November 17, 2011, 12:00 am

Title: ViktorVaughn
Post by: fisher on November 17, 2011, 12:00 am
another obvious scam! a new seller who had 0 sales until 3 days ago with "all buyers under 5 rating must finalize early" and "any order over $30 must finalize early" SCAMSCAMSCAMSCAM!

I bet he will still reel in 20-30 marks before Silk steps in and disables his seller account.

you heard it here folks, this guy is a scammer!

watch his new orders still flying in because nobody reads the forum

MAKE ESCROW MANDATORY!!!  DELAY THE ABILITY TO FINALIZE!!!
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: fisher on November 17, 2011, 04:06 am
when I see a seller who says things like
orders over X amount need to finalize early, and they only list items over that amount, why not just say
"fuck escrow. I've sold 5 things on here, so everyone should trust me"
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: ViktorVaughn on November 17, 2011, 02:38 pm
Look,

I have had issues with new folks with few or no feedbacks (especially those that refuse to learn use PGP to communicate) and so I changed to policy to orders over $35 must finalize early.

Either way, you didn't once contact me about it at all.  I sent you messages agreeing to help you use PGP and you ignored them. In my profile, it says orders over X amount must be finalized early before shipping. I promise that I have many vouchers ( in chat, and even the few I've dealt with)

Please always try to contact me first before doing something like this. I am still willing to help you use PGP as it is the safest option, but I can assure you, this is no scam. Just read my policies and feedbacks. Others have finalized early with no issues at all.

When you realize that you jumped the gun, I will here to accept your apology. I do not get mad early.

The past orders still in transit, which you can't see yet, are orders where folks have purchased multiple items listed singularly. They all but you agreed to do this, so I'm sorry that you feel this way. I have had new folks scam me with accounts that have little buyer feedback, so I had to change policy.

I am in chat every day helping as much as possible and here on forums doing the same. When this is settled you will want to apologize and I will gladly accept. Please come to chat and you will see.

Thank you!


V.V.

Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: fisher on November 17, 2011, 04:10 pm
 you haven't been here long enough to have issues with new buyers, mrgrey said he was the one who left the feedback for the out of escrow listing, and that was just a few days ago. and you have only been a member for 24 days.

I never contacted you without pgp, never ordered anything from you, and you never replied to my encrypted message (the one I sent asking why you required early release on orders over $30 dollars when all your listings were over $30). maybe you have me confused with someone else, but your listings are why I encourage Silk to delay the ability to finalize.

just because you are on silc chat doesn't mean that you aren't going to start scamming after you get 2-3 people to vouch for you!

I will formally apologize when you stop requiring early finalization, till then YOU ARE A SCAMMER!!
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: mrgrey on November 17, 2011, 04:16 pm
and you buddy are a tool
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: ViktorVaughn on November 20, 2011, 08:26 pm
Look, dude.

I understand your skepticism. I have several sales in escrow that will ship tomorrow and well as one issue with a crushed pill. I pack my pills so that they are uncrushable, so it make me wonder if I'm being scammed. However I'm not screaming SCAM SCAM SCAM at the guy as it may be just a mail sorting issue.

I intend on sending the guy another pill and taking his word for it, even though he has very few sales.

Calling people scammers right off the bat is not the way to do business.

I spend hours in chat and on the forums helping people who need it because they are new, NOT SCAMMERS.

I will accept your apology when you see this for what it is. Just promise me that you'll never buy any of my products. The reason people are finalizing early is because they are ordering several items at the same time and that puts them over the limit, not because I'm only listing items over the finalize early listing. People trust me because they've talked to my in SILC and on SR and on the forums and they feel comfortable doing so.

It's people like you that give new and up-and-coming sellers a bad name. Please stop posting about me. I have plenty of people that will vouch for me including SR himself, who singlehandedly restored my account after I had been sacmmed for almost $300. The chat community pitched in and covered my deficit and handed the $ to SR himself to restore my account. So go to SR if you want to. He'll just likely ignore you.


Thanks again to everyone who volunteered $ to restore my account. I am forever in your debt. as well as the SR community.
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: Candyman on November 24, 2011, 01:38 am
Alright, I'm gonna step in and throw my 2 cents in.  V.V. is a great asset to our community.  He spends countless hours in SILC helping new people stay safe and chatting with us.  He also loaned me 4 btc when i was desperate so i could place an order.

You know, just because someone asks for early finalization doesnt make them a scammer.  Not all buyers ship with delivery confirmation, so they are easily scammed themselves...Early finalization is a good way to solve that problem.  Personally i do ship with DCN's so i can prove the item got there...but not everyone can.

I'm sure you dont believe any of what I'm saying, because you seem like a tool...so have fun being ill informed.

-CandyMan
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: 18kct on November 24, 2011, 02:24 am
I have to laugh at you King, I have been reading about how "change is coming" and "scammers days are numbered" and "we're going to make it harder to blah, blah, blah!" for MONTHS now. Nomad was sure I would be banned just a few weeks ago. I will believe it when I see it, so let me know how the list you turned in to silk goes buddy, because nothing is getting done about it as long as he is still profiting.
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: 18kct on November 24, 2011, 02:33 am
I can't wait to see your systems deployed. do you think it will be soon? people have been suggesting ideas to stop scammers, but none of them have been implemented so far. I guess you'll just have to prove me wrong.
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: 18kct on November 24, 2011, 02:43 am
and 10 times less profitable.

that made me laugh harder when I read that your plan is to make Silk road 10 times less profitable.  that is the reason your systems wont work.
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: 18kct on November 24, 2011, 02:51 am
so, your PM to me said that Silk road PAID you to make a system that only you can scam on, and that you are a BIG time scammer.  So I guess what that meas is, scammers take what you can as quick as you can, and legit vendors and buyers alike should abandon ship, because silk is paying someone to let the big time scammers work, but stop small time guys like me. OK
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: 18kct on November 24, 2011, 02:57 am
MY lies?

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he is going too do everything I say because I did all the work for him. And once it happens only those who know how the system works will be able too scam. leaving you out of the loop.

Nothing against you though honestly. If I wasnt such a good scammer I couldnt of created what I did. And honestly stupid people do stupid things but I can even stop that.

Your going too know that the new systems were designed by some1 who has been E scamming on many sites for a long time.

The way you will know is because they will work 2 good. And since he is actually paying me 2 do this work I know he is implementing my systems.

its nothing against you its really just me proving that my years of scamming has taught me more than any1 who has ever scammed on SR. After all SR is the easiest website in the world too scam on.
I am a leader among those who know me. I take action while others just talk. For this I have nightmares in the day time. The pain I have felt 4 the actions I was forced to take is enormous. I will never back down from the pain, I am a man and thats how I am walking out.

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you wont understand how its working. but my ideas are sound. I been creating ghost E bay accounts since b4 e bay had a fraud department. I been dodging the 30 day seller account period on Amazon for years and from addresses in several states. Right now I have a website that I convince people too send me $1000 money orders at a time. And its out there, you could even find it yourself, but you need too have a US shipping address too receive the cashiers checks and money orders.

if i didnt make so much money scamming on harder sites I wouldnt be able too figure out too stop the scams, i would just be like nomad and SR, which neither of them have the capabilities too stop scammers. But now I am here with tools. And I am being paid 4 my knowledge.

The best part, like I said, if you dont have intimate knowledge of the systems being built and how they operate you wont be able to avoid detection. Sooo.....who will be left too scam then? lol
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: PaythePiper on November 24, 2011, 03:39 am
This thread has turned from sad to pathetic. But no matter I still have to throw in my 2 cents about V.V.

I have done business with V.V. as well as talked with him about a few topics and know his intellect. I personally consider him a comrade and friend. But that doesn't blind me from seeing that he knows his stuff and his business senses are in tip top shape and being called a scammer is a joke. Unfortunately that word is thrown around WAY too much (which I've learned lately) and should only be used if one had specific knowledge of a scamming incident and is positive it was a scam and not a screw up by one of the parties -with evidence to back it  up.

V.V. is one of the assets to this community and instead of defacing his name we should be saying what good he has done for SR. In my short time here (~2 months) I have had only a handful of people I would trust without being able to meet them face to face. In my short time knowing V.V. I would say he is most definitely one of them.
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: Orchidandlove on November 24, 2011, 03:50 am
I have to throw my 2cents in here two, as even though i havent recieved product from VV yet, he has contacted me multiple times to update me on the status.

The dude who has the crushed pills, thats me. The reason i know that is because VV gave me a heads up on it like 3-4 days ago....

Of course i havent recieved shit yet, but based on the communication and what others have said, im staying neutral until i receive the package, but everything he has stated on the forums and 1-1 has lined up completely... stay tuned....
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: trent on November 24, 2011, 05:12 am
Its pretty obvious KingJoey is PeopleB4Profits. He types exactly the same way, and now hes all over this forum talking about the thousands of dollars of orders he placed. I almost did a moneypack exchange with this guy when i was a total noob, but still something felt off and then the next day he was on here bragging about the scam...got me really paranoid about sr for a while but fortunately I was able to complete a successful exchange with BTC buddy. I gotta say, it makes me angry seeing him on here bragging about his purchases...I can only imagine how id feel if he actually got my money, and apparently he got thousands worth from others. Any vendors who can connect this guy to his SR name based on what hes written about products and ect., get the word out to not do business with him. Yeah its a free market, but rewarding someone who is openly bragging about his purchases he made with money he stole from your other potential customers, well, thats going to turn me off a lot of vendors, and Id guess there are many others, who feel the same way. IF this guy actually has anything to do with SR security, itll be the end of this site. (but I really doubt thats actually true).
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: Orchidandlove on November 24, 2011, 11:36 am
he's just some dick taking advantage of SR's bitcoin wallet and practices... there's no way hes in charge of security, an admin or the SR leads need to group up and determine if he should be banned imo, no one wants to read about their money getting spent and its not good for the long term health of the community
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: Chez on November 24, 2011, 05:57 pm
KINGJOEY WHERE ARE YOUR POSTS BUDDY I CAME HERE RUSHING TO YOUR DEFENSE BUT I DONT SEE ANY OF YOUR POSTS MAN HOW CAN I HAVE YOUR BACK HERE IF I CAN'T EVEN SEE YOUR POSTS?!?!?!?
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: hackattack2077 on November 24, 2011, 09:51 pm
Guys viktor vaughn is the great scammer pimpinpills from topix. Also icecolder/drcodone/hardinthapink/igotem/ketafree/etc. Wow,youre fucking up a tor forum now,for fucks sake man. You still going hard in tha paint cocksucker?
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: willowpillow on November 24, 2011, 10:36 pm
This place attracts some really weird fuckers!
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: towelie on November 24, 2011, 11:16 pm
Yes it does.
It also produces two post in a row by people who just registered today!
Imagine that.
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: ViktorVaughn on November 25, 2011, 12:12 am
I don't even know what the eff topix or pimpinpills is...

All I can do is let the buyer's posts and feedbacks speak for themselves. It's pretty easy to tell who is a real buyer, and who just registered to drop a deuce on a single thread and then bounce.

I'm just tryin' to get in where I fit in... and quite frankly, this is getting old. Buy if you feel comfortable, and pass if you don't.


Happy Turkey Day, kids.
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: Candyman on November 30, 2011, 12:00 am
Just popping back in to get a good laugh from all the suckers trying to smear V.V.  Like i've said, dude is legit.  He's a good buddy and has loaned me btc when i was in need....i don't think a scammer would do that.
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: hackattack2077 on November 30, 2011, 05:56 pm
http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/xanax/T4BAKQJSPNVCSIDMG
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: ViktorVaughn on December 04, 2011, 03:54 am
http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/xanax/T4BAKQJSPNVCSIDMG

First, that link is to a guy dealing with Xanax. I never have nor will sell Xanax- I like it too much!

Second, the names are spelled differently. If I were that guy, wouldn't I use a different name totally? One that couldn't link back to me somehow? Viktor Vaughn is the alias of a popular underground rapper named Metal Face Doom. Google search it.

Lastly, not one single person that has purchased from me has had ANYTHING negative to say about me. Cross-reference my SR feedbacks with posts here and you will see, I am not some master scam-artist. I loan people BTC that I have never met, I let trusted vendors and buyers have things on credit- I'm just a nice guy who seems to be a target for some people for some unknown reason.

If it's competing vendors trying to give me a bad name because my prices are lower, that would make sense. But I have spoken to lots of vendors, and they all seem like cool folks. My best guess is that it's just trolls or LE doing anything to get people to be too hesitant to buy. It looks like a lot of vendors have had to deal with this kind of thing.

So, why don't we silently tally all of the people in both threads who vouched for me and then those who are trying to slam me.


I win. Landslide.
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: ViktorVaughn on December 13, 2011, 04:01 am
I hope by now that the speculation of me being a scammer has passed. I have several feedbacks under my belt, as well as several top notch vendors stepping in to tell the experience they've had with me.

So, maybe now the OP will decide to edit the title if the post and it's contents. I am a real as it gets. I haven't scammed a single person yet and don't plan on it.

I love this community and I wouldn't jeopardize it for anything.  Thank again for all of your support!


V.V.
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: blush1rt on December 13, 2011, 04:07 am
Figured I'd throw in my 2 cents, even though I'm fairly new.

When I first came to SR, V.V was the first one to step up and answer my questions about the whole process. He walked me step by step through setting up my PGP and how it works. He also lent me BTC when I was a little bit short, and asked for nothing in return.

He's also been one of the most active guys in SILC from what I've seen, and is always willing to help out when people are having issues. From what Ive seen hes also dealt with a number of high up vendors, and I havnt heard of any of them having issues with him.

Seems legit to me.

Dont know how the idea of him being a scammer came up, but personally he given me a very positive impression of SR in general, and I woudlnt hesitate to do business with him.
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: ViktorVaughn on December 13, 2011, 08:22 am
I'm not worried about the paperhaters (sorry, Paperchasing, had to borrow that phrase)-i it's too fitting. If anyone doubts me, I will be happy to send out a sample, if they'll pay for postage.

Hit me up on PM over on SR using PGP. The first 5 PGP messages will get a 4mg subutex sample. I'll do whatever I have to prove that I am as legit as they come! So, don't sleep on this order!

Kthxbai luvu! :-*
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: towelie on December 23, 2011, 03:29 am
Hey VV,

Wondering if we are going to be seeing any listings from you after the new year or sooner.

Thanks
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: nattaboy33 on January 20, 2012, 02:43 am
yeah it's official hes a scammer, me and another dude never got our shit 45 days ago, he was gonna resolve it until he just disappeared, had 100 feedback before that, but i have 2 transactions, neither of which made it, and the fucker fell off the face of the earth without saying anything, avoid him for now on, fucking faggot
Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: PaythePiper on January 20, 2012, 08:23 am
This has nothing to do with VV but "faggot"?

What are we in fucking Jr. High?

Personally I'm not gay but "homo" and general anti-homosexual words are for people who are totally ignorant.

It's 2012 guys.

Think before you speak.


Title: Re: ViktorVaughn
Post by: nattaboy33 on January 20, 2012, 10:00 pm
sorry, didn't know the slang police were on here, is that what you do is sit around here and wait for someone to say something you don't agree with and then try to be a tough guy about it? that's pretty annoying, shut the fuck up