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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Fru-t-loops on September 18, 2012, 05:48 pm

Title: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: Fru-t-loops on September 18, 2012, 05:48 pm
I've been taking a lot of MDMA and want to build up a tolerance again. I'm about to go to a huge EDM festival for two days.

What other drugs will enhance the music without making me too tired or disoriented?
I'll be smoking a bit but that usually makes me too tired to dance a lot.

I took shrooms and MDMA at a jam band concert a few weeks ago and I couldn't enjoy the music. I couldn't stop thinking about life, what to do with what I was seeing/hearing, and how dumb the drunk people are.
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: l1llykins on September 18, 2012, 06:47 pm
25g is a great psychedelic for enjoying music and being around people. It's physically stimulating, enhances sound, gives you a nice mood lift, some body euphoria, butdoesn't mess with your head --doesn't even come with any visuals.

If you want visuals, you can go for 25c ... it's most in tune with music which actually affects the visuals which I find a lot of fun. And it comes with an energy, not exactly stimulating like caffeine ... more like taking a protein shake or creatine. Stick with a moderate dose though, else you'll get a punch-drunk kind of high which I don't find a lot of fun.
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: Fru-t-loops on September 18, 2012, 09:52 pm
Thanks. The visuals are fun, its the trippy state of mind that I have trouble handling at concerts.
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: l1llykins on September 18, 2012, 10:01 pm
25g is the most clearheaded followed by 25i. You'll have a good time on both, just don't overdo the 25i. 800ug is plenty, especially if you plan to smoke weed.  I'm not really sure you can overdo 25g, that one is really friendly.
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: Stormtrooper420 on September 18, 2012, 10:11 pm
Cocaine or ketamine+MDMA. Don't do cocaine and MDMA though. Or swallow about 1 part crystal meth and 4 parts MDMA and you will go nuts!! I don't ever do meth unless its a tiny bit with MDMA. It really increases the stimmy parts but doesnt leave you too cracked out afterwards and you can sleep and eat later on

Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: Diz on September 19, 2012, 02:45 pm
25i-nbome is actually really fun if you keep the dose low 500-800mics, it is pretty subtle and from my experience you can't have a bad trip on it. Things aren't as awesome, lovey, or at their best like when you are on MDMA but it keeps you up, going, and having fun. Sometimes festivals and concerts are fun without drugs but this is the road so I doubt that will ever happen for most of us. Just bring a little melatonin or bud if you are having trouble sleeping afterwards.
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: beren102 on September 19, 2012, 10:13 pm
2c-b, 6-apb, perhaps acid, i find its a little less flooring and more acrive than shrooms

cocaine, ampetamines, and even crystal meth are also pretty fun, you might get a little technical in your enjoyment though
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: TheAbsurd on September 19, 2012, 10:25 pm
^6-apb is cross-tolerant with MDMA, so no.

I would go for 2c-b. It should be quite gentle as far as headspace goes but you'll still get nice euphoria and visuals.

Lower doses of 25b, 25c, and 25i would be interesting as well if you're not used to tripping.
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: Holly on September 20, 2012, 05:28 am
I've been taking a lot of MDMA and want to build up a tolerance again. I'm about to go to a huge EDM festival for two days.

What other drugs will enhance the music without making me too tired or disoriented?
I'll be smoking a bit but that usually makes me too tired to dance a lot.

I took shrooms and MDMA at a jam band concert a few weeks ago and I couldn't enjoy the music. I couldn't stop thinking about life, what to do with what I was seeing/hearing, and how dumb the drunk people are.

That's funny as fuck you can't enjoy the music because the combo is offering you a life changing experience and you just ignore it lulz.... no wait that's not funny as fuck.  I don't understand what you mean by 'enjoy the music', do you want to be floored by the bass squirming on the ground or something?? Honestly you're back to square one if you wana get 'fucked' take 7gr++ cubensis or 1000+mcg lsd and see what's good.
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: Limetless on September 20, 2012, 05:31 am
What is EDM?  :-\
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: TheAbsurd on September 20, 2012, 05:45 am
Electronic Dance Music
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: Limetless on September 20, 2012, 05:46 am
Who uses that term? Is this an Americanism or something? Is it just American short-hand for "Rave"
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: Stormtrooper420 on September 20, 2012, 06:28 am
What is EDM?  :-\

www.youtube
.com/watch?v=AvmqC1igJvM

Maybe only americans will find this funny.

Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: may on September 23, 2012, 06:13 pm
Who uses that term? Is this an Americanism or something? Is it just American short-hand for "Rave"
Definitely an Americanism I think, it's just what we call dance music in the UK.
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: MC Haberdasher on September 23, 2012, 07:16 pm
I just enjoy some good buds while I am listening to UK Funky on RinseFM.  I enjoy music better when I am either sober, or just stoned.

I'm not that young of a guy either, so this stage is long gone for me.
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: TheAbsurd on September 23, 2012, 07:28 pm
^I don't do MDMA or roll at events either. I can't deal with the fact that I need to throw up on the come up, drink a bottle of water per hour, go pee every second, etc.

"EDM" is everywhere nowadays not just raves. It could be at a huge event like Electric Daisy Carnival, smaller (but still rather big) festivals where you actually get to camp, raves out in the middle of nowhere that most kids don't know about, warehouses, or clubs.

Everyone is really pretentious about the music and act like they've been listening to electronic music all their lives. It's really annoying.
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: may on September 23, 2012, 09:02 pm
^I don't do MDMA or roll at events either. I can't deal with the fact that I need to throw up on the come up, drink a bottle of water per hour, go pee every second, etc.

"EDM" is everywhere nowadays not just raves. It could be at a huge event like Electric Daisy Carnival, smaller (but still rather big) festivals where you actually get to camp, raves out in the middle of nowhere that most kids don't know about, warehouses, or clubs.

Everyone is really pretentious about the music and act like they've been listening to electronic music all their lives. It's really annoying.
Is throwing up common? I've bombed and snorted mephedrone, as well as taking pills and never felt sick, but I'm wondering if I might when I bomb MDMA now?
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: TheAbsurd on September 23, 2012, 09:28 pm
I would say it's common but it definitely doesn't happen to everyone. Sometimes I just dry heave for a little bit and spit something small out. For some reason that little something was the killer, and I feel fine afterwards. I don't puke or feel nauseous with methylone. Make sure your stomach isn't full and I have better success when I have a vegan/vegetarian diet the day that I roll.
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: l1llykins on September 23, 2012, 09:49 pm
MDMA is very acidic and people often roll on an empty stomach. To help prevent nausea/vomiting, have some tums about 30-60 minutes before rolling.
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: may on September 23, 2012, 10:51 pm
Thanks for the info, I'll look into taking some antacid beforehand. Sorry for taking this thread a little off topic!
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: fartsinthewind on September 23, 2012, 11:18 pm
I would say it's common but it definitely doesn't happen to everyone. Sometimes I just dry heave for a little bit and spit something small out. For some reason that little something was the killer, and I feel fine afterwards. I don't puke or feel nauseous with methylone. Make sure your stomach isn't full and I have better success when I have a vegan/vegetarian diet the day that I roll.

I almost spewed over the summer when i took two red defqon's. I was out in a club in downtown St. Louis, and i've never felt such a rough comeup! It took about 35 minutes but hit me like a lightning bolt. I headed straight for the toilet, i was 100% sure I was going to throw up. But it subsided in less than a minute, and the rest of the night was the BEST roll I've ever had :)
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: Limetless on September 24, 2012, 06:57 am
I would say it's common but it definitely doesn't happen to everyone. Sometimes I just dry heave for a little bit and spit something small out. For some reason that little something was the killer, and I feel fine afterwards. I don't puke or feel nauseous with methylone. Make sure your stomach isn't full and I have better success when I have a vegan/vegetarian diet the day that I roll.

It's because when all that delicious serotonin and dopamine sauce starts flowing through your pathways some people find it overwhelming and as such you chuck up. Chucking up straightens you out but I'm not sure why this actually is, maybe it's the shock from the physical action of it. Who knows.
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: Fru-t-loops on September 25, 2012, 12:09 am
Thanks for the advice guys. I wanted to try the 25g-nbome but the seller has left my order processing for 5 days.

To me, EDM =/= Rave since a rave refers to the scene/experience where EDM refers to the music. Not all EDM festivals are a rave like dayglow or maybe Ultra. As someone pointed out, some have camping options, or other activities on the side, etc.

As far as nausea, I've only had this once, which was when I snorted 140mg at a loud event. Aside from that I've rolled 10 or so times without nausea. Just don't do all .120+ at once. I've seen people snort 75, wait 20, then 75mg more, or swallow half and snort the rest, etc. On .1 total I never had any nausea but I wasn't quite drowning in serotonin as if I took a defqon. Just don't get it all at once and you should be better off.
Title: Re: EDM without MDMA?
Post by: jonesycat on September 25, 2012, 12:14 am
GBL + NO2.

I like to load them on top of MDMA, but they're great without, too.