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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: ppass on October 24, 2012, 12:49 am
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Just dont bother with the guy he is rude and calls scammer at the slightest drop.
Apparently I have been working on a 44 day scam to con approx 20$ worth of low grade ketamine out of this poor soul.
After 44 days of cordial communication I suggested that the package may have been lost. He immediately responded with an accusation and put any end to the thought of a refund or reship, despite me not directly asking for either accommodation.
I am not asking anything further of this vendor, nor do I have any agenda to push. I would just like to have this thread as a cautionary record, a warning to those who may be interested in attempting an order.
The man either incompetent or a bit of a scammer who has ridden on the fact that his wares are advertised so cheap that the small amount of coin lost doesn't warrant a followup from other users.
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Really?? I have an order coming from them and it's been around 19 days to the west coast. Communication seemed fair since they messaged me about when my order was being shipped out and all :l did they do this with you too?
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Really?? I have an order coming from them and it's been around 19 days to the west coast. Communication seemed fair since they messaged me about when my order was being shipped out and all :l did they do this with you too?
This is what he did with me as well. He was always prompt with messages but it eventually turned into a "wait until the end the week ... wait one more week, etc"
He gave me a ship date and told me to be patient, which I was fine with. Only when I pointed out that 44 (now 45) days was a good point to assume the loss of a package, he insinuated that I was a scammer.
Who knows? Maybe you will be one of the few who does receive something. I wish you luck and would recommend caution if attempting a repeat purchase.
Best Wishes
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No escrow?
They have that around here, so I hear.
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Really?? I have an order coming from them and it's been around 19 days to the west coast. Communication seemed fair since they messaged me about when my order was being shipped out and all :l did they do this with you too?
This is what he did with me as well. He was always prompt with messages but it eventually turned into a "wait until the end the week ... wait one more week, etc"
He gave me a ship date and told me to be patient, which I was fine with. Only when I pointed out that 44 (now 45) days was a good point to assume the loss of a package, he insinuated that I was a scammer.
Who knows? Maybe you will be one of the few who does receive something. I wish you luck and would recommend caution if attempting a repeat purchase.
Best Wishes
I got mine today :) and the quality is very good. Grade A ketamine (;
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In my opinion the service I have had from Charas Bros has been as good as any vendor on here. Good communication and has arrived every time (5 diff orders) within a few weeks to the UK. The packaging has got better, and the hash is just what it says it is. There is obviously a higher risk with delivery from the region he's at, and probably does have a high rate of people trying to scam him compared to others, but sometimes he has tracked delivery that you can hold in escrow but I imagine when one of those gets confiscated he has to re-jig a few things (speculation) that make the packages look legit so escrow isnt available from time to time. Again just guessing but from my experience everything has been fine.
If I had one gripe it would be the price, could easy have an ok margin and prob sell more if it was cheaper but then again I wish everything in this world was cheaper!
just my 2c's
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Really?? I have an order coming from them and it's been around 19 days to the west coast. Communication seemed fair since they messaged me about when my order was being shipped out and all :l did they do this with you too?
This is what he did with me as well. He was always prompt with messages but it eventually turned into a "wait until the end the week ... wait one more week, etc"
He gave me a ship date and told me to be patient, which I was fine with. Only when I pointed out that 44 (now 45) days was a good point to assume the loss of a package, he insinuated that I was a scammer.
Who knows? Maybe you will be one of the few who does receive something. I wish you luck and would recommend caution if attempting a repeat purchase.
Best Wishes
I got mine today :) and the quality is very good. Grade A ketamine (;
Well sir I am quite glad that you had a good experience with this vendor, just be careful.
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In my opinion the service I have had from Charas Bros has been as good as any vendor on here. Good communication and has arrived every time (5 diff orders) within a few weeks to the UK. The packaging has got better, and the hash is just what it says it is. There is obviously a higher risk with delivery from the region he's at, and probably does have a high rate of people trying to scam him compared to others, but sometimes he has tracked delivery that you can hold in escrow but I imagine when one of those gets confiscated he has to re-jig a few things (speculation) that make the packages look legit so escrow isnt available from time to time. Again just guessing but from my experience everything has been fine.
If I had one gripe it would be the price, could easy have an ok margin and prob sell more if it was cheaper but then again I wish everything in this world was cheaper!
just my 2c's
As I said for the above poster, I am glad you received good service and I would have liked to engage in a similar transaction. Sadly the way he rubbed off on me has removed any desire on my part to even work with the vendor.
Perhaps shipping to the UK is a bit more reliable than his shipments to the USA.
Regardless, the way he treated me is no way to go about professional business. I am not a scammer and my stats speak to that claim.
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My experience with the CharasBros was also a very good one. I took the chance of FE because it was one of my very first purchases. Their communication was good, not that much was necessary, and it took under three weeks from their distant location on the planet to reach my distant location. The stealth could not have been any better and their product was/is excellent. I would not hesitate to buy from them again or recommend them.
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Must say I ordered some Sadu Charas of these guys. I was amongst the best hash I have ever smoked and I have smoked a fair bit. I had to FE as I didnt want tracking. Fair enough, they were upfront with that and I didn't have to agree but I did and received the package within 2 weeks (UK)
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Never had a problem with this vendor - sells quality hash 8)
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Well I am getting one thing from this thread, and that is that I was treated unfairly which is a damn shame.
We have all these glowing reviews from happy customers, and my only desire was to join their numbers. I wish charasbros hadn't come at me with such shaky accusations but instead approached the situation in a reasonable manner.
Again, I am glad for those who receive good service with the vendor, but I would caution those who haven't already taken the plunge with good results.
If you receive your goods the first time, then chances are you have a firm friend with charasbros, but if you do decide to take that plunge, be willing to take a complete loss with absolutely NO cooperation on the end of the vendor.
Best Wishes
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Well I am getting one thing from this thread, and that is that I was treated unfairly which is a damn shame.
We have all these glowing reviews from happy customers, and my only desire was to join their numbers. I wish charasbros hadn't come at me with such shaky accusations but instead approached the situation in a reasonable manner.
Again, I am glad for those who receive good service with the vendor, but I would caution those who haven't already taken the plunge with good results.
If you receive your goods the first time, then chances are you have a firm friend with charasbros, but if you do decide to take that plunge, be willing to take a complete loss with absolutely NO cooperation on the end of the vendor.
Best Wishes
Do you think they would try to scam you for $20??? Did you really need to make a thread over this? It sucks you didn't get your package yet but trust me as a vendor we deal with scammers all the time. I think in here you handled yourself good and make it clear you just don't like be accused of being a scammer..BUT they are not either and there is no need to make this thread.
One of the problems with ordering from the other side of the planet is waiting for packages...could take up to 30 days...
Sorry you didn't get your package ppass...but I am 100% sure this vendor did not rip you.
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Absolutely remarkable packaging, it took a while to get here (doesn't bother me) and I question the quality of the product, but they aren't scammers.
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Well I am getting one thing from this thread, and that is that I was treated unfairly which is a damn shame.
We have all these glowing reviews from happy customers, and my only desire was to join their numbers. I wish charasbros hadn't come at me with such shaky accusations but instead approached the situation in a reasonable manner.
Again, I am glad for those who receive good service with the vendor, but I would caution those who haven't already taken the plunge with good results.
If you receive your goods the first time, then chances are you have a firm friend with charasbros, but if you do decide to take that plunge, be willing to take a complete loss with absolutely NO cooperation on the end of the vendor.
Best Wishes
Do you think they would try to scam you for $20??? Did you really need to make a thread over this? It sucks you didn't get your package yet but trust me as a vendor we deal with scammers all the time. I think in here you handled yourself good and make it clear you just don't like be accused of being a scammer..BUT they are not either and there is no need to make this thread.
One of the problems with ordering from the other side of the planet is waiting for packages...could take up to 30 days...
Sorry you didn't get your package ppass...but I am 100% sure this vendor did not rip you.
Reread son we are day 50 :D
And flip that first statement around. Would I put 50 days into a 20 scam myself? I only tossed the scammer word about after I was accused.
If the vendor had even entertained the thought of working with my on this, we wouldn't be here and I wouldn't be wasting yours and my time on this dopey thread.
I am leaning towards the notion that he is not a scammer, but truth be told he did me nasty. I don't deserve this as I have always felt like a decent sort to deal with buyer-side.
I just don't like that out almost a year of successful weekly purchases, this has to be the one annoying thorn.
Seizures are understandable, but don't jerk me around for two months, receive nothing but polite correspondence from my end, and then spit in my face when I ask to start talking options. It is just bad business.
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Absolutely remarkable packaging, it took a while to get here (doesn't bother me) and I question the quality of the product, but they aren't scammers.
See above post :D
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Seizures are understandable, but don't jerk me around for two months, receive nothing but polite correspondence from my end, and then spit in my face when I ask to start talking options. It is just bad business.
i would agree with the thread starter..
had about $50 spent in transaction with this greedy chi-chi seller, was patiently waiting for 3 (THREE!!) months timely and nicely updating the seller that i still haven't got the envelope, and 60 days after the package was "sent", when i suggested we should look for options - i got a rather cold and snobbish respond that it is totally my fault and i gotta just wait (for another three months maybe?).
i don't know whether this is really a nail in CB's ass, or i got "lucky" to be scammed selectively by one of these guys - nonetheless i don't like this attitude.
fuck the money, but the greedy raghead bastard nauseates me.
you may see our communication below. i've come here with clean and fair intentions and such attitude sickens me.
please tell me if i'm wrong.
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here's the communication
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MYSELF thanks and good luck.
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CharasBros(94) I wrote to you do not have experience in shipping to your country.. As you was first time customer I do not reship and not refund.
you should wait and you will receive your order.
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MYSELF hi again,
it's been quite a while but i still haven't got the package. now i am 80% sure it is lost.
i am leaving for a long business trip and will come back early november. this will make clear for sure that all deadlines and allowances for lazy post workers are up.
if the package still would not be there, we will have to settle it down somehow. i hope for 100% reship (you even can add extra for my patience), and i am even willing to pay for the tracked shipping this time (if, again, you can ensure, the contents will be camouflaged properly). refund will do as well if you chose so.
lets hope for the best and i will talk to you in a month or so.
thanks.
b/r, MYSELF 30 days read
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MYSELF thanks for giving me hope, bro.
i'll be freaking out less now)
yes, it is supposed to be direct route, since ThisCountry is an independent country.
usually, it arrives fast to hub sities (BigCity1, BigCity2), but i live in a small shithole place.. maybe the problem is here, between a hub city and my place.
i'll be waiting and hoping and will let you know when the envelope shows up.
take care. 1 month read
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CharasBros(94) my packs been opened and inspected by customs around the world and almost always passed. two gram hash packed inside [spoiler] cant be detected even if they will open it. mast probably it is just delay. by the way do you know if your mail going trough EvilCountry or the is direct rout to ThisCountry.
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MYSELF hi again.
well, i understand this and that's why i am willing to wait more time (7-15 days before i contact you again would be adequate, I assume). if you sent it on July 23 - it's been 1.5 months already..
i understand also, this is unregistered mail, so it can take longer. however, this is the longest i ever waited from many countries around the globe, including North America, Europe, Africa and Asia. 50% of those parcels were illegal stuff.. sometimes with strong odor. i have a concern your envelope could have been seized by customs, etc - so i have a question - did you make sure it was packed well and is smellproof? this would be the worst case scenario for me - i would have to lay low for uncertain period of time.. :(
so, for now, i just shared the info with you. if the package comes soon - i'll inform you right away.
have a good day and good business.
b/r, MYSELF
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CharasBros(94) never shipped to your country before, so can say what is average delivery time.
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CharasBros(94) never shipped to your country before, so can say what is average delivery time.
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MYSELF hi!
it's been slightly over a month, and i still don't have the stuff arrived.
i think i'll wait for another week or so allowing for poor performance of the post office.
i will let you know accordingly.
thanks.
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one of the reasons i call this chi-chi greedy is 'cause i ordered two types of hash (small amounts, cause i never go large before i'm sure in a guy), i asked whether i could pay for shipment just once 'cause he would send the stuff in one envelope anyways..
no, said CB, pay for the shipment twice and i'll make sure i'll get you some extra.
bullshit.
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For OP, you think he would offer a partial refund given the margins he must be making shipping from cheap source country. Was really looking forward to making an order. Will have to reconsider now. Shame. As for Borat, 'I'm guessing calling him 'raghead' is the end of negotiations?'
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@ Maverick
you have posted information about shipping methods from a PM this does not belong on the forum please edit this part out
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@ Maverick
you have posted information about shipping methods from a PM this does not belong on the forum please edit this part out
I saw nothing that within those posts that gave anything crucial away. Calm down.
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Charas is good people. His saddhu grade charas was one of the finest purchases I ever got on SR and while he is more than a bit mental.. it is a "too brilliant for the mundane world to hold" mental rather than a "fuck dealing with that drama" mental.
My only bitch about Charas is his wares (the charas and the afin anyway) are not things that appeal to local markets. so I can't justify buying them as a "business expense" (and then munch on them myself!!).
Charas.. good guy, killer product. I consider him as much a friend as you can be with someone online that you've never met (and never will).
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For OP, you think he would offer a partial refund given the margins he must be making shipping from cheap source country. Was really looking forward to making an order. Will have to reconsider now. Shame. As for Borat, 'I'm guessing calling him 'raghead' is the end of negotiations?'
While I don't condone the usage of slurs such as that. He actually doesn't say that within the correspondence. I'm assuming it is coming out after the fact due to the frustration with this vendor.
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I once orderd 2gr of Opium but got much less (don't exactly remember how much) but after I did send him a message about it he just told me that I had received 2 grams...what to say, he is just a very unpleasant character.
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For OP, you think he would offer a partial refund given the margins he must be making shipping from cheap source country. Was really looking forward to making an order. Will have to reconsider now. Shame.'
exactly. if his conscience was clean, wouldn't he notice I am offering to pay for tracked shipping (which the bastard didn't offer initially, even when i asked?) again, look on the forum - several guys say the tracking the monkeyballs provided wasn't legit...
As for Borat, 'I'm guessing calling him 'raghead' is the end of negotiations?'
yes, this land's full of Borats))) another great slur)
i didn't call him that in the correspondence. do you think i should?
and yes - this is the end of negotiations. no offense to great people of India, but i'm not going to beg this stinkin curry slurper to change his mind. i came here to be treated fairly and i can afford loosing this amount over a good lesson (remember, the country has a pipeline to deliver prostitutes... oh, wait, that's another movie))))
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good point, other people's packages shouldn't suffer because of this. thanks.
While I don't condone the usage of slurs such as that. He actually doesn't say that within the correspondence. I'm assuming it is coming out after the fact due to the frustration with this vendor.
that is about how this is. thanks. i read a wise man behind these lines....
I once orderd 2gr of Opium but got much less (don't exactly remember how much) but after I did send him a message about it he just told me that I had received 2 grams...what to say, he is just a very unpleasant character.
another good example..
somehow i don't see any of my negative feedback under his listings. neither could i find a negative feedback (is tampering with feedback possible?) from a guy who ordered some hash but had it tested then to find out the has was blended with opium.. nice and tricky way to get people addicted to CB's stuff...
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just ordered 20btc worth of stuff , no tracking option and asking to F.e , have never f,ed with anybody , so might just cancel , what you think
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I wouldn't even FE for God.
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Hi all. just posting to follow 8)
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Looking at CharasBros SR profile, I see 3 pages worth of "finalized early", and his rating is far below perfect. Why the fuck are people so trusting? Damn, it's so easy to scam the shit out of 100's of buyers on SR - just get a bit of vendor reputation, then ask everyone to FE and cash it in, baby.
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yeh scammers heaven
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So is he asking to FE to all customers or just the noobs ?
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According to his profile, it's new customers and/or orders without tracking that need to FE. However, he doesn't offer tracked shipping, so everyone has to FE.
I'm very skeptical my order would've arrived if I FE. It's coming all the way from India to US, untracked, through multiple borders. CharasBros estimated delivery time to US is 3+ weeks... So, I need to FE and wait 3+ weeks, and pray the package doesn't get intercepted.. sounds fun.
The product DOES cost less than competitors', but I have no idea about the quality. Searching on the forums, a few posters complain about poor quality, that's about it.
Can anyone comment on the quality of the opium CharasBros sells?
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The product DOES cost less than competitors', but I have no idea about the quality. Searching on the forums, a few posters complain about poor quality, that's about it.
I'm actually interested in his charas or his manala cream, both of which he is the only one to sell. Would love to have some feedback on those.
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Too many vendors who require FE have been either selective or total scammers., seems charasBros is both :(
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Too many vendors who require FE have been either selective or total scammers., seems charasBros is both :(
Still waiting >:(]
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No tracking just excuses , you wanna hear this lad
Scammer
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good to read this. I was actually gonna order some opium from him cause it's cheaper then H, i guess i'll just have to wait a bit longer.
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According to his profile, it's new customers and/or orders without tracking that need to FE. However, he doesn't offer tracked shipping, so everyone has to FE.
I recently put in my first order with charasbros i'm not a noob buyer,didn't have any tracking,he has not asked me to FE(if he did i would have politely refused)and it was marked in transit the next day.
I'll update on quality when it arrives,gotta have faith ;D
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why would he need F.e if he knows the game ? If anybody needs to ask what game then you shouldnt be here ...
For the record , mates still got nothing & it costs fuck all from India :o yet he commands a top price on here
wants it all his own way
Scammer in my eyes
AVOID
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why would he need F.e if he knows the game ? If anybody needs to ask what game then you shouldnt be here ...
For the record , mates still got nothing & it costs fuck all from India :o yet he commands a top price on here
wants it all his own way
Scammer in my eyes
AVOID
I sent him a few messages a few days ago. After two replies I knew I wouldn't be dealing with him. It's like when you'd buy stuff the old way, walk into a guys house and feel him out. This guy was like walking into a place that smelled like speedballs, puke, and feces. That's the impression I got from him through text rofl.
Fucking twat for sure, then I saw this, confirmed, thanks guys
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Update:
after a few days saying in transit got a message saying my package was ready for delivery and asking me to FE i said i wouldn't so he cancelled my order and i got full refund.Annoying but at least i didn't loose anything apart from a few days and yes wish i hadn't bothered.
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can we report him?
i'm willing to place an order and since my stats are much higher now - i shouldn't be prompted to FE.
if i do - can i report this?
p.s. seems the younger lazier and meaner brother is in charge now..
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yeh good idea report him SR can do without these scammers demanding F.E
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Their prices are way too high anyway. A kilo of charas cream is not more than $400 in India and opium ist still less. It is ridiculous they resort to selective scamming.
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...it costs fuck all from India :o yet he commands a top price on here
wants it all his own way ....
this ^
the last time i checked, i believe 1 gm was around 20$? please correct me if i am wrong..
that would work out to roughly 200$ for 10g?
highest quality manala cream can be sourced in a major city (away from the source in the mountains) for around 70$ for 10 g.
the place he is shipping it from, the same product can be procured at half the price.
I am currently in possession of some fine hash, which i paid the equivalent of around 60 $ for 10g.
I am finding it hard to finish one joint by myself...
I'm actually interested in his charas or his manala cream, both of which he is the only one to sell. Would love to have some feedback on those.
really? this is interesting...
If only a vendor account wasn't so expensive......
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Just got the same runaround from CharasBros.
Placed the order, then he came back and said I had to FE because it was not a tracked package, but he doesn't have a tracking option?
Also he doesn't explain any of this defacto FE requirement on his vendor page.
Now that I have a good buyer history here I don't see the need to deal with this.
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CharasBros Selective Scammer.
You must Finalize Early. You have no choice. I had a previous successful transaction and realized the risk. Nowhere else to get this quality hash at this price. Package seized by customs. Sent CharasBros proof. They refuse to accept liability. Shitty packaging. Easy to detect. They have 20+ sales a day, can afford to be weasels.
BEWARE
Buy at your own risk.
Update......
Offered to reship when he (CharasBros) receives a customs letter as well.....!!!
Do you think he put his return address on package???
What a goof....
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It's a shame to hear he's gone downhill so much, to the point of selectively scamming no less :(
I only used him once, and for a reasonably small order. It took the longest time any pack i've ever ordered has to reach me (40+ days), but was concealed in the most amazing way (I had a hard time figuring out where it was and I knew there was drugs in there, no custom's would have ever found that), good quality, decent price and he wasn't making me or others FE like he is now.
Sad and shameful to see a vendor whose already doing successful business turn to scamming and sub-standard practices (bait and switch on FE) when they were already doing good business. Can't have been about $$ cuz like I said he was doing good business, but maybe i'm wrong and he's just getting/already gotten greedy and just wants more money then his honest vending was bringing him (which was plenty already) :(
Hope there are hash vendors on SR with equivalently good product that ... behave responsibly as a vendor (I get mine locally, though i'm sure some of the hash vendors on here have product that blows what I get out of the water ... just too costly for me).
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its always about the $$$$$ :-[