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Market => Product requests => Topic started by: SteveyMcBobbyPants on June 22, 2012, 03:49 am
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Okay, guys. I know it is not costing you anywhere near $10/pill for addys. We all know buying adderall off the street puts it at about $3-4/pill. I guarantee if someone rolled through here and sold addys at $5-6/pill, they would make a fucking killing. No, seriously, someone needs to step up and undercut the market.
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There's supposedly an Adderall shortage, but in all seriousness, if you can buy 10 grams of amphetamine paste for the price of 5 or so Adderall 30mg, something ain't right. US domestic benzos and painkillers are ridiculous as well. $10+ for a hydrocodone 10mg, and $7-9 bucks for a shitty Pakistan ONAX Xanax bar. Please.
Man...I know. I understand that with other drugs you're paying for quality but a script is a script, y'know? I swear, someone with a legit fake pain clinic could absolutely murder this market.
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I don't like any of the pharms on SR example the Xanax on here is like 9$ I think and on the street I get 4-5 adderall I get for $2 Oxy 15mg I get for 4-5 aswell. Again I live in a big city but i find most the shit on here overpriced pharmaceutical wise.
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I hear you man
That's why I been tempted by these ridic. prices to create a vendor acct and sell addy
I don't even have a script but I can get them by the 100 ct. bottle irl for 500-600 tops.. figured I'd make a killing on here at these insane prices
but then I'd have to deal w/ all the special shipping/labeling, all the messages/shitheads, been on the fence for a while now
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If someone in this global market would offer SPEED OF HIGH PURITY, they would DESTROY the adderall market and take 1/2 the meth market.
One of SR's greatest disapointments...speed and mescaline.
You'd think someone somewhere would bring these to the table. I'm pretty sure anyone who does would become wealthy from it.
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Why not buy ICE pills? The pills that say ICE and are amphetamine.
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There is no shortage, but you do need to hit a few pharmacies. The FDA website has daily update on shortages.
Anyhow, the prices are fucking ridiculous. I have not bought any for months... Meth in water does the same, well, I do fuck my wife a lot more... other than that, you can still work and or study like crazy.
I'd love to punch a couple of these vendors. $$20 for 10 mg? I pay $10 for 60 20 mg.
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Well I just started lurking around the silk road and couldn't help but notice the very steep prices as well, I have a couple hundred 20mg ir adderall on me now. I would love to sell them for $4 a pop to those who needed, I'm just a little turned off by the seller registration fee, especially if I'll be selling these for a lower price. But if there's enough interest I guess I could join in on the selling game.
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Well I just started lurking around the silk road and couldn't help but notice the very steep prices as well, I have a couple hundred 20mg ir adderall on me now. I would love to sell them for $4 a pop to those who needed, I'm just a little turned off by the seller registration fee, especially if I'll be selling these for a lower price. But if there's enough interest I guess I could join in on the selling game.
Reliable distribution or just a once you sell all those hundreds you're done? -- If you can get the hook for awhile the vendor fees will be paid and you'll start to sell just for profit. Worth it if you know your source is legitimate and consistent -- scary if it's Pablo on the corner.
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I have a reliable source and have had one for several years, I usually get 3-4 a pop locally so I guess if I did put them on the SR I would have to ask for a little more especially given the expensive registration fee, shipping costs, and of course the added risk of shipping out of ******* where drug imports are quite high given the mexican border is literally very close by. But I also have access to oxycodone ir 30mg and of course all the cocaine and marijuana I could ask for, however I wouldn't feel comfortable shipping anything that smells given that's the easiest way to get snagged. The silk road seriously is something I've always dreamed of and know that it's finally here I really want to be a part of it. I've known about it for quite some time now and to be honest, I always thought it wouldn't last long once the feds became aware of it, yet here it is growing and thriving more than ever. If anyone's willing help me get started on the market place I'd greatly appreciate it as well as find ways to repay the favour.
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Correct, you can never be too careful. I edited it out, even though I wasn't very specific any little bit of information adds up. Thanks
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All of you are right, Addies @ $10 for 20mg or 30mg is, in the words of Eminem..."Fuckin Crazy!" So I did what any reasonable person would do and posted IR 20mg (Cor 135) at $4 a piece in this forum. I was lucky to find some decent people willing to do business with me and they have all been happy. Yes it is somewhat of a trust fall but when you offer your addies at a good price people become much more willing to work with you. Just wanted to throw that out there.
-arpeggi
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There is no shortage, but you do need to hit a few pharmacies. The FDA website has daily update on shortages.
Anyhow, the prices are fucking ridiculous. I have not bought any for months... Meth in water does the same, well, I do fuck my wife a lot more... other than that, you can still work and or study like crazy.
I'd love to punch a couple of these vendors. $$20 for 10 mg? I pay $10 for 60 20 mg.
Bros,
I understand your Frustration about Cost & Vendors. I've been here 8 months both as Buyer, Contributor and now Vendor.
Here's what I can tell you. First off, I do offer true and legit Adderral, not fake, not chinese shit or generic. I do my best to sell cheaper (about .58 cents a milligram) but there are a few things I want to make sure you understand.
1. SR requires $150 just to become a Vendor
2. For every Single Transaction below 100 bucks, SR get's a good cut, about 10%
3. Getting a Script for a Class II drug (adderral, oxys, percs, etc) now a days requires a lot of hardship as a Patient.
You now have to take a piss test every time you get a new script, costs of office visit, cost of Insurance and outrages Pharmacy costs, not to mention that in order to keep getting Scripts you sacrifice being able to get that ocassional buzz you guys seek.
4. Being a Vendor here is a big Time FELONY. If and when you get Busted, you have to ask yourself if it's worth it.
5. You have to deal with druggies and douchebags who always try and reverse Scam you by saying they were shorted a pill or 2 or fucking claiming they didnt get your package.
6 Add to all this cost of envelopes, postage and having to constantly change your routine, always having to find new post offices and sleepless nights.
All I can say is that the prices you Pay are the result of doing Business Illegally and each and everyone of you is more than welcome to come on board as a Vendor and do your best to put up with all this shit and still work hard to maintain a decent rating when your dealing with Junkies.
oppyate
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I just had 100 30mg ir adderalls listed for 12 bux each. I sold them all in 2 days. Obviously the demand is higher than the supply. basic economics.
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Yep..Gosh Darn it! Capitalism at its best. Damn Drug Dealers!!
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First, there has been an adderall shortage for a long time now. At this point certain pharmacies get it in every now and then but most can't order. At least not the kind everyone likes (the orange, oval one, 20 and 30mg). Second, everything on SR costs more, that is why people take the extra added risks , time, and money to use SR. Why would anyone sell them for $4 a piece on here when they could just sell them to people they know for that without all the hassle of SR?
A 4mg dialudid goes for around $20 on SR, which is outrageous, but thats just what they cost on here. The justice system is ass backwards in the US and people get more time for drugs then they do for violent crimes in a lot of cases. Obviously this isn't just in the US, in some countries you can get the death penalty for trafficking drugs.
I know someone who did not have a record, was on his/her way to an ivy league grad school, and got caught mailing an ounce of powder out of state and lost everything. They had an extremely expensive lawyer and still did time. One package, first offense, family had money, and still did time. Point is this is no joke, mailing stuff is "trafficking" and is a federal offense, meaning no early parole. So for you to come on here and bitch about a few extra dollars that you have to pay when these people are risking everything it makes you sound like a brat.
There are a lot of people in prison right now for first offense trafficking that will end up doing more time then people they might be in prison with for murder (most murders are plead out and they plead guilty to second degree murder, manslaughter, etc). If it's that much of an inconvienience then go pay for your own doctor / rx / and spend your own time getting these pills.
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Antigrid- I call bullshit.
Story sounds made up. What kind of powder? Cocaine? How do you get caught mailing something? You drop it in a mailbox, not hard to do. The only way your story makes any sense is if that person was being watched for awhile and was involved in a major drug operation.
Some 18 year old kid selling his script of addys on SR would have to be pretty dumb and make a lot of mistakes to get caught.
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First, there has been an adderall shortage for a long time now. At this point certain pharmacies get it in every now and then but most can't order. At least not the kind everyone likes (the orange, oval one, 20 and 30mg). Second, everything on SR costs more, that is why people take the extra added risks , time, and money to use SR. Why would anyone sell them for $4 a piece on here when they could just sell them to people they know for that without all the hassle of SR?
A 4mg dialudid goes for around $20 on SR, which is outrageous, but thats just what they cost on here. The justice system is ass backwards in the US and people get more time for drugs then they do for violent crimes in a lot of cases. Obviously this isn't just in the US, in some countries you can get the death penalty for trafficking drugs.
I know someone who did not have a record, was on his/her way to an ivy league grad school, and got caught mailing an ounce of powder out of state and lost everything. They had an extremely expensive lawyer and still did time. One package, first offense, family had money, and still did time. Point is this is no joke, mailing stuff is "trafficking" and is a federal offense, meaning no early parole. So for you to come on here and bitch about a few extra dollars that you have to pay when these people are risking everything it makes you sound like a brat.
There are a lot of people in prison right now for first offense trafficking that will end up doing more time then people they might be in prison with for murder (most murders are plead out and they plead guilty to second degree murder, manslaughter, etc). If it's that much of an inconvienience then go pay for your own doctor / rx / and spend your own time getting these pills.
Antigrid great post!
Here's the problem. There is in fact a shortage as there is a war going on between DEA & Drug Companies on how much Amphet is really needed to make the Adderral.Unfortuntely, Buyers dont care about this fact. When I placed my Script at Pharm I only got a partial order cause they couldnt fill it. Buyers dont care about this fact.
If I really wanted to gouge my current customers who by my Adderral I could easy get a Buck per milligram, but I dont.
All one has to do is look at the Weed Section. Most everyone thinks all you have to do is plant a seed and in six weeks you get half a pound of weed. There are over 100 Weed Vendors and despite the fierce rivalry there AAA Chronic still Sells at 300-350 an Ounce. Why? Because of demand. If there wasnt Demand, why would 40+ Vendors currently selling weed able to get that kinda pricing? Anyway, I'm probably wasting my breath here, but it is what it is..Supply vs. Demand.
oppy
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I too have heard of the infamous "Adderall shortage." But I've managed to escape it's clutches by mailing in my prescriptions. You should check with your pharmacy and see if they have a mail-in order form (typically used for prescriptions for 1 month and greater). I know for a fact that many US-based pharmacies do have such services -- CVS, Rite Aid, all those other ones...
Once you mail it, it takes about a week to arrive and its almost always filled (never had a problem with my script and I get 180 per script). Well worth the wait in my opinion.
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On the adderall shortage note, i believe, as a whole its not a shortage. That being said sections of the country seem to experience pseudo shortages from time to time. A friend of mine a couple of months ago had to go to 6 different pharmacies to refill his script, where as another friend about 10 hours away never has a problem with that.
Honestly when I joined i was shocked at the prices, but it makes sense when you think about it. Most people within the 18-25 age group can obtain adderall fairly cheaply and abundantly. Hell its as easy as going to a campus and talking around till you find someone pushing, and seeing as though the adderall prescription rate for college students is insanely high, prices are always lower. The people selling addies on here must not have a reliable source of customers, and the people buying must be desperate as fuck or lazy. As long as there's people willing to pay, the prices won't go down :(
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Re: Holy fucking shit- antigrid is a fucking IDIOT
TL;DR - this guy is so full of shit, I cannot determine if he's really that stupid or retarded.
First, there has been an adderall shortage for a long time now. At this point certain pharmacies get it in every now and then but most can't order. At least not the kind everyone likes (the orange, oval one, 20 and 30mg).
Again, there is no shortage. Demand has increased, but supply has remained constant. Only the vendors are claiming a shortage. Like I said, check the FDA’s website. Why ask some pharmacist at Walmart, when you can check the FDA. If you don’t know its the Food & DRUG administration. The website lists ALL medication shortages. You supply anecdotal evidence, I supply supported facts. I win.
Second, everything on SR costs more, that is why people take the extra added risks , time, and money to use SR. Why would anyone sell them for $4 a piece on here when they could just sell them to people they know for that without all the hassle of SR? [English, please]
Hassle? It's your choice to sell - fees, costs, envelopes, or whatever does not justify 300% increases. You also have reduced risk and anonymity. This is what the fee is for. Fuck, with your mentality, why don’t you addy venders get together and control the market. Last I checked monopolies are permissible. Using your weak reasoning, you could charge $500 for 20 mg. Where is the line drawn? This thread might be drawing it.
The justice system is ass backwards in the US and people get more time for drugs then they do for violent crimes in a lot of cases. Obviously this isn't just in the US, in some countries you can get the death penalty for trafficking drugs.
Pure nonsense.... try supporting your argument with facts. The ONLY countries to do so are: Singapore, Malaysia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, China, and United Arab Emirates. What is the common denominator? Quick think hard….
There are many drug users and sellers that should be locked up. It’s those fucking morons are the catalyst for the War on drugs. To be clear, I get high, but I also have self-control. 80% of site members are brilliant individuals. However, the 20% is the problem. Guess what group you are a member?
I know someone who did not have a record, was on his/her way to an ivy league grad school, and got caught mailing an ounce of powder out of state and lost everything. They had an extremely expensive lawyer and still did time. One package, first offense, family had money, and still did time. Point is this is no joke, mailing stuff is "trafficking" and is a federal offense, meaning no early parole.
Like the other guy said, this is bullshit or an isolated aberration. Learn this word: anecdotal, anecdotal, anecdotal, anecdotal. I went to an "ivy league" graduate schools, and I used a lot of drugs back then. Ivies are comprised of entitled assholes - their pedigree was their acceptance. Inferentially, don’t you think those entitled fucks have a strong influence and power. Hint, Ivies are private schools, which rely on alumni to do what?
Back to the point, the justice system does not work as you described, regardless of how may Law & Order episodes you've watched - you do not know the law. Beyond statutory and policy justifications, prisons are way overcrowded, and the current trend is to STOP imprisoning violations of drug offenses. I know hundreds of people that have beaten Drug related charges based solely on the exclusion of evidence. Think about that, have I proven anything? No. Have you proven anything, absolutely NOT. As far as federal offenses, you’re crazy. Federal courts rarely if ever hear criminal cases, only on appeal would it come before the bench. Now that we’ve establish this paragraph is complete bullshit, lets move on to why I responded.
So for you to come on here and bitch about a few extra dollars that you have to pay when these people are risking everything it makes you sound like a brat.
First, fuck you! Are you 12? Generalizations are like stereotyping - wrong. Read this sentence, again. I am sure you're a millionaire that believes 300-400% price increases equate to "a few dollar." Fuck, I hate to say it, but you are a pompous idiot that has written nothing but hyperbole. Selling drugs is a choice not a service. If you’re worried about “getting caught” then don’t sell. Ever heard of Adam Smith and his theory of the invisible hand? Economic theories are in play. The product means nothing. Further, you’re being paid for this, so clearly the reward is worth the risk. If anything, you “sound like a brat.” Leave. We’ll be fine.
Now this, I cannot let go:
There are a lot of people in prison right now for first offense trafficking that will end up doing more time then people they might be in prison with for murder (most murders are plead out and they plead guilty to second degree murder, manslaughter, etc). If it's that much of an inconvienience [SIC] then go pay for your own doctor / rx / and spend your own time getting these pills.
Again, you are completely wrong. Most murder charges plead out because the fucking tax payers don’t want to pay the millions it would cost to prosecute a capital case. Moreover, the families of the victim are massively consider when working a plea deal. It’s called judicial efficiency. Imagine this: everyone has Constitutional rights, one of which is a speedy trial. To remedy your foolish hypothesis, the states would require 10 or 20 even 50 times the current budget. Get it? It’s not feasible. Factor the extenuating circumstance into your steamy pile of a hypothesis, and clearly, it is easy to infer you’re using far more drugs than adderall. Alas, this is an example of public school. Now that is a tax I would love to increase. Reduce the number of dumbasses in this world, and we have a better society.
Finally…. to nail home the point, I’ve included sample statutes from WA. You claim second degree murder and manslaughter charges are punished by a slap on the ass. Once again, the facts destroy your argument.
RCW 9A.32.060
Manslaughter in the first degree.
(1) A person is guilty of manslaughter in the first degree when:
(a) He or she recklessly causes the death of another person; or
(b) He or she intentionally and unlawfully kills an unborn quick child by inflicting any injury upon the mother of such child.
(2) Manslaughter in the first degree is a class A felony.
Note the CLASS A FELONY
RCW 9A.20.021
Maximum sentences for crimes committed July 1, 1984, and after.
(1) Felony. Unless a different maximum sentence for a classified felony is specifically established by a statute of this state, no person convicted of a classified felony shall be punished by confinement or fine exceeding the following:
(a) For a class A felony, by confinement in a state correctional institution for a term of life imprisonment;
(b) For a class B felony, by confinement in a state correctional institution for a term of ten years, or by a fine in an amount fixed by the court of twenty thousand dollars, or by both such confinement and fine;
(c) For a class C felony, by confinement in a state correctional institution for five years, or by a fine in an amount fixed by the court of ten thousand dollars, or by both such confinement and fine.
(2) Gross misdemeanor. Every person convicted of a gross misdemeanor defined in Title 9A RCW shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a maximum term fixed by the court of up to three hundred sixty-four days, or by a fine in an amount fixed by the court of not more than five thousand dollars, or by both such imprisonment and fine.
(3) Misdemeanor. Every person convicted of a misdemeanor defined in Title 9A RCW shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a maximum term fixed by the court of not more than ninety days, or by a fine in an amount fixed by the court of not more than one thousand dollars, or by both such imprisonment and fine.
(4) This section applies to only those crimes committed on or after July 1, 1984.
See RCW 9A.20.021(1)(a) - Class A felony - Life imprisonment
Drug Crimes: RCW 9.92.010
Punishment of felony when not fixed by statute.
Every person convicted of a felony for which no maximum punishment is specially prescribed by any statutory provision in force at the time of conviction and sentence, shall be punished by confinement or fine which shall not exceed confinement in a state correctional institution for a term of ten years, or by a fine in an amount fixed by the court of not more than twenty thousand dollars, or by both such confinement and fine and the offense shall be classified as a class B felony.
RCW 9.92.020: Punishment of gross misdemeanor when not fixed by statute.
Every person convicted of a gross misdemeanor for which no punishment is prescribed in any statute in force at the time of conviction and sentence, shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a maximum term fixed by the court of up to three hundred sixty-four days, or by a fine in an amount fixed by the court of not more than five thousand dollars, or by both such imprisonment and fine.
Let’s review
You claim that 2nd degree murder, which is punished more severally than manslaughter, gets less time than drug related crimes.
Fact: legislatively mandated: Manslaughter = Life imprisonment
Drugs charges
Gross misdemeanor: Max 364 days
Felony: 10 years or less
So now, can you please offer a real justification for 300% price increases? I’m always willing to pay a premium for anonymity and reduced risk. I’d even pay 100% increase. But that’s me.
In closing, if it’s not clear, your statements are infuriating. I cannot believe the “risks” you used as justification. Do yourself a favor, and never go into legit business for yourself. You’ll fail.
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Wow this quickly turned into flaming.
Anyways, you won't find reasonable prices here. Go get your own script (it's not hard in the slightest) or find a friend who has them. It's a pretty common script to give out to my knowledge, however working your way up to 20s and 30s may take awhile if you're a tiny person and never take medication.
NEED 20 + ADDERALL - 20MG XR OR 20MG IR - $10.00 A PIECE
Only an idiot would by that. You can get 30 IRs for $5-10 irl.
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My beef is with no one but the dick head that claims anyone who says prices are too high is a "brat." When a vendor starts whining about people discussing the high prices of addy, and uses hyperbole as fact - needs to be checked. Thus, my complaint is with no one other than that vendor. The other vendor made valid points, but s/he did so with a shred of grace. This other guy is just a moron. Not one of his pseudo-sentences are factual correct. No offense to others was intended.
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I have a normal script of 60 20mg instant release, I was shocked when I moved to another state and my insurance hadn't started yet - I went to go pick up a script and it was like $120 or $140 I couldn't fucking believe it! So I can't hold anything against anybody for selling the stuff for a bitcoin or two - I felt like telling the pharmacist that I can make you some for a fraction of the price.... I also used to run into the constant problem with walgreens/osco drug or a supermarket pharmacy not having a steady supply - I found walmart was always fully stocked.... anyways this is a really easy script to get just be patient. You can give them my symptoms - I suffer from ADD but this is what you will want to do if you desire a steady lifetime supply
Step 1. Go to your family doctor and tell him/her that you have always had a problem with concentration and that you suffer from insomnia, that you never really have a problem with hyperactivity or acting impulsively, but you tend to hyperfocus on things and really don't feel mentally clear, tell him/her that you had a friend that had the same symptoms and had a sleep study done and they found he had sleep apena and after getting a c-pap he felt great, clear, not longer had insomnia and that you would like to try a sleep study.
Step 2. Get your sleep study done - whether or not you have sleep apena or another sleep disorder, on your next visit tell your doctor that you are still having problems and it is really interfering with your work. They might want to refer you to a behavioral health expert but tell them that you don't trust psychiatrists, that you trust them. The doctor might try to put you on Vyvanese or XRadderall but tell him/her that the long acting doses make you nervous since you have had trouble getting to sleep and want something that is in your system for only a few hours - make it clear you really enjoy your sleep. You will eventually get instant release adderall if you don't get it the first time. (You might have to go through the motions on a few meds and tell him that they are not quite working and would like to try another)
Step 3 be patient, don't go right for a increase in dose, don't exhibit drug seeking behavior - get your script for your 10mg in the morning and 10mg in the evening - go for awhile and let him/her know that you have been having better effect by taking 2 in the morning and they will up your dose. If you go along for awhile, let the doctor know that you feel like the medicine is not "penetrating" like it used to and if they have any suggestions of other meds - if you are in a larger city they might bump you up to Desoxin (script form of meth) I always end up with a lot of extras over a few months because I am not always doing work that requires my concentration or I want to enjoy the weekend.
You do this and establish your medical record you will get it anywhere you go and continually get increasing doses - Once you get drug seeker in your record it is like the boy who cried wolf - even when you are in real need of help you don't get what you need - I feel it is generally a good idea to occasionally stop in and ask for a copy of your records for another doctor - orthopedic or something, read your doctors notations about you to see what they are thinking will help you develop a strategy to obtain what you need..... or you can always go doctor shopping until you find one that will just write whatever script you ask for... there are several ways to skin a cat
Hope this helps my fellow travelers of the road
BandW
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Man, even since the beginning of SR, many people saw the problem with selling amphetamines.
The problem is stability; the pricing and availability. The amount of "work" really needed to get them is NOT easy. For those who complain incessantly about the pricing, take this into consideration:
For an normal adult to get a prescription;
1. Having some kind of history of ADHD/ADD, and proof. This is really helpful, but many people don't have it, and lie.
2. Having a psychiatrist/doctor prescribing medication, including participation within a help group/therapist/psychologist (which is a huge pain in the ass + $$$).
3. Having health care insurance that has a low co-pay, or one that covers the Adderall completely. in many cases - unless you have a state/gov funded HI, your scripts come out to $60-$100, or more. So already paying for HI + psychologist + psychiatrist + MEDS comes out to an unhealthy number. Most vendors are paying out-of-pocket for the adderall, remember that.
4. Then risking their asses to sell it to some trolls who cry about the pricing.
Getting access to good priced amph is hard now-a-days, but hang in there. I just took a look of the vendors selling Adderall (in this case) and DAMN, so FUCKING overpriced.
Take another look every now and then, I've spotted a couple of low-key vendors selling 20XR/30XR well beneath the standard limit. If you're lucky, buy them out.
Being an amph vendor IRL and here, my standard pricing on Adderall is $0.50-$0.70 per BRAND MG, and for generic it's $0.30-$0.40 per MG. Maybe the AMPH giants on SR should get together and set a standard on selling them here.
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Once I get a little more comfortable here, I will send my extras to one of you that desire it - give me what is fair and SR their 10%, what I was thinking is about $5 a pill for 20mg instant release. I usually have between 9 and 15 left over each month - I will send them off and don't even worry about sending coin until you have them - if you stiff me then you have bigger issues to deal with and the next person on the list will get their chance have the extras next month
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I've been trying to find people who would buy 30mg IR for $7-8 each, or 10 for $55, for goddamn forever. The prices on the site are fucking out of this world. I have a prescription for it, don't take it, and would happily open a vendor account in exchange if people were committed to buying 60-120 a month.
They're the thorn in my side, just sitting around doing goddamn nothing. I know people want them, but it seems like the market is just overloaded with $10-30 pills.
Is asking $7, $5.50 or 6 bulk too much to ask for 30mg IR?
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Being an amph vendor IRL and here, my standard pricing on Adderall is $0.50-$0.70 per BRAND MG, and for generic it's $0.30-$0.40 per MG. Maybe the AMPH giants on SR should get together and set a standard on selling them here.
That's what I'm saying - follow OPEC style - Charge $500 for 20mg. Seriously though, you could double your price and take the market over.
I suppose I'm making false assumptions by assuming we’re all professional adults so that a Dr would never suspect deception. If you play the part correctly, if they suspect deception, they will think - why pay such a high price if you don’t have much to lose? That is, here is a professional that would not risk his job or whatever just for some adderall. Anyhow, If you understand how doctors think, you shouldn't have a problem getting a script. Because they deal with a wide breadth of medical issues, they have a lot of knowledge about a lot of problems, but not deep knowledge about a single issue - like psychiatrists and ADD.
Try this….
First, shop for doctors, do some research. Research ethic violations - there is a term of art that I cannot recall at the moment. Most bio’s will list prior violations and disciplinary problems, like over prescribing narcotic or Class 2 drugs. These are your target because, typically, they need clients and have cash flow problems. Thus, if you have good insurance, it's a win-win for any doctor, but importantly, it’s a win for the financially strapped. It’s more common than most think. Typically, they earn a $300 fee every 30 days for three minutes of work. If you present yourself correctly, like try wearing a suit or business casual, you’ll be taken more seriously. I could go on and on about that, but make sure you know what you’re doing. Shoes are a dead give away. People with money don’t wear a $1,000 suit with crappy shoes. The $100 suit and $100 shoes are better. If that is too much, then have your shoes shined. Know when to wear brown shoes and a belt. Think about the details. It's a game, and much sure you have left no stone unturned. Okay… I am a tad bit high so pardon the tangential info, ha.
Think like a doctor, linearly. The simplest way to explain it is - they are taught to analyze medical issues like decision trees. Answering question in their head as you describe the symptoms. Family practitioners are notorious for such simplistic analysis. Not to date myself, but if you’ve read a “choose your own adventure book,” you should understand. Alternatively, think of a giant flow chart that requires yes/no answers. Once you understand this concept, you’ll learn how to force a conclusion. It’s easier than it sounds, or I’ve been doing it too long.
Totally out of order…..
Search the 'net for background info about your chosen doctor, and you'll find info that should help. A couple of my buddies are physicians, and believe this, they are normal people that do normal shit like you. They get high too! You think your life is stressful.... My good buddy is the is the Saul Goodman of medicine. He verified my thought process, so you should improve the odds by researching backgrounds.
Keep in mind, they follow a code of ethics. Violating the code could result in revocation of their license. This is the professional equivalent of death. College, med school, residency, 250K in student loans, and most important - 10+ years of their life - gone in an instant.
Not sure to best state this....
Do not go to a psych doc, they are smart. Find a family practitioner; they are the low man on the intelligence totem pole. Said another way, Medical school is similar to law school, grades are curved. And the curve SUCKS. Meaning, if the entire class could earn an "A," but the curve requires a certain percentage of students get A’s, B’s, and C’s. Alternatively, everyone could get real "F's', but the same break down applies. For example, cardiologists are the "A" students, Specialist like psych doc are "B" students, and the bottom of the class are family practitioners, and the lowest are chiropractors. It's not that they are stupid; they are just not super geniuses. As for Chiropractors, I don't even think they can prescribe, they are the idiots. Point is don't try to fool the geniuses, you cannot. Start with regular thinkers - family MDs. Create a plan before you walk into the office. Google can help. Know your opponent.
Probably not a surprise, but I've seen thousands of "therapists" or counselors. As a teen, I found enjoyment trying to manipulate various doctors. Wasting my parents money was an enjoyable hobby. After awhile, I got pretty good at it, but I did notice the breakdown described above. The last therapist I saw was a marriage counselor. My wife and I went because she thought I drank too much. I was all for going because I knew the result before opening the yellow pages. I did my homework, and picked our therapist. By the second session, I had the counselor telling my wife that it was irrational for her to think my drinking was a problem. At the time, I was a raging alcoholic. Long story short, I had this bitch under control to the point that I could get my wife to do anything I wanted. Unfortunately, I develop a conscious or my sociopath personality had faded. More likely, I got tired of seeing the person I love most taken to task by another person I despised, yet it was by my creation. Either way, after explaining in detail how I manipulated the counselor, she understood how it worked. And she knows my profession... Ramble, ramble...
This is getting too long…. In sum, learn how they think, and learn to speak in such a manner that they arrive at your desired conclusion, and treated it like your an actor - helps with the nerves and delivery, make up a character. It’s fun, almost magical. If you get good at it, think about a career in law, haha.
Like I said, I'm high, so when I read this tomorrow, I'll get a good laugh. Hope it helps.