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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: MagneticFreeze on August 24, 2013, 05:12 pm
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Just as a warning. Find another vendor. There are better ones out there.... I will use this thread to hold our conversations and will be releasing them slowly over the next few days.
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Our messages >:( - Sorted last messages first
This is truly cruel what you are doing -- optikai0110 (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/messages/send_message/88039ebfeb)
I gave you the benefit of the doubt. I trusted you completely with my money. I FE'd, no fucking problem. Now I am getting the silent treatment.
You told me that you would get in touch with me tomorrow but you never did. Mate, I didn't ever receive the fucking packages. They simply were not in there. Since this was a no show. Could you at least split the difference at 50%? I am willing to take half of what I am actually owed.
This is not how you treat people. This is not how you treat large purchasing customers.
I have literally poured my heart out and given you some very personal details about my life. Why would I do that?
Why won't you give me my products? I really need my money back as well.
I tell you what, you give me my money back and well deal together at another time. I will stop this campaign against you.
I swear to god, hand on bible, may my sons lives be cut short and die if I am lying. I swear on my entire family's welfare and health that I did not receive your packages. I am sure you see my intention.
Don't for one second doubt me. Because I honestly do not have it in me to do such a thing to anyone. Believe me, I would of been ecstatic and very thankful if the product would have come in. But you have me by the balls because I FE'd.
Please be more engaging with me regarding this. Look at how much time I spend trying to get to you and make things right. I spend all day writing you messages. Day after day. There can only be one explanation to this that I don't want time to pass and you just put it on the back burner. Would someone who already received their meth go through all this trouble? I swear to god I wish that I had received those packages!!!!
JUST PLEASE THINK ABOUT EVERYTHING. THINK ABOUT MY WORDS AND LISTEN TO YOUR INSTINCT.
You have no idea how important this money is to us. If you did you might actually have a conversation with me. I have sat here on the computer for days on end, waiting to hear a response from you.
You promised resolution and you promised that you would contact me. Why haven't you kept your word.
Don't force my hand to do things that makes this transaction a regret.
We converse until a conclusion, or I will make sure of certain things -- optikai0110
"We do really need to resolve this mate asap as i don't like these situations especially when im in here to build a solid reputation on trust and honesty!!"
Was exactly what you told me a couple of days ago. yet there has been no movement toward resolution. Tell me like a man what's going on. I can handle it.
I wish you would have seen our faces when we opened the box, it was like bewilderment crossed with pure confusion. We did not find it funny and thought it was a practical joke. Right after that, I placed the box beneath my bed because there were no packages inside that box. I tried to inspect later to see if I missed anything but I already told you how that went. Even went so far as to make a video.
Oh, and I just received a half gram package. But where is my other 14 grams. WHERE IS IT? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??
You seemed to have stopped replying to me which leaves me no choice but to continually report you to SR and take back my 5/5 and turn it into 1/5 across the board. Also, I will be starting a new thread that will receive constant updates regarding our transaction. I will even create many many accounts to report you to SR. I will also email SR support updating them to your lack of delivering a product which didn't cost $10. $1500 to be exact.
There is a difference between a threat and being diplomatic. You could come to certain terms with me or I will use every single option I have at my disposal to seek the justice that I deserve. I've given you days over deadlines but you still don't respect me as a customer. You cheated me out $1500. This calls for some responsibility to surface.
I am sorry I have to do this but I will launching an ad campaign soon if no communication is established. You are not taking me seriously enough.
Need to talk ASAP -- optikai0110 (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/messages/send_message/88039ebfeb)
purchase transaction #916ff070af ฿-13.09 ฿1.27 August 13, 2013, 11:09 am UTC
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status: finalized
buyer: optikai0110
seller: happyman 4.5
item: 14 grams of pure crystal meth
quantity: 1
shipping: overnight next day delivery
postage: ฿0.3023
total price: ฿13.0870
ordered: August 13, 2013, 11:09 am UTC
shipped: August 14, 2013, 9:22 am UTC
finalized: August 14, 2013, 9:27 am UTC
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status: finalized
buyer: optikai0110
seller: Three 4.7
item: 10 Grams Pure Crystal Meth Methamphetamine INTL
quantity: 1
shipping: International
postage: ฿0.2600
total price: ฿5.8315
ordered: August 1, 2013, 12:16 pm UTC
shipped: August 3, 2013, 5:07 am UTC
status: finalized
buyer: optikai0110
seller: his royal highness 4.9
item: The Fire. 7 grams Crystal Meth
quantity: 1
shipping: international FCM
postage: $4.88
total price: $420.72
ordered: August 1, 2013, 12:23 pm UTC
shipped: August 1, 2013, 1:19 pm UTC
finalized: August 1, 2013, 1:43 pm UTC
status: finalized
buyer: optikai0110
seller: Miss Demeanor 5.0
item: Crystal Meth / 7 Grams / Australia
quantity: 1
shipping: Free
postage: ฿0.0000
total price: ฿4.7451
ordered: August 1, 2013, 5:01 pm UTC
shipped: August 1, 2013, 5:33 pm UTC
finalized: August 1, 2013, 6:00 pm UTC
status: finalized
buyer: optikai0110
seller: happyman 4.5
item: 0.5g ( 1/2 gram ) of high quality crystal meth
quantity: 2
shipping: 1st class
postage: ฿0.1832
total price: ฿1.7300
ordered: August 2, 2013, 11:35 am UTC
shipped: August 3, 2013, 5:05 am UTC
finalized: August 7, 2013, 5:53 am UTC
Feel free to contact any of these individuals to check how my transaction went with them and this will give you a picture of how I conduct myself. I need this resolved quickly mate. I have been waiting going on two weeks now for my order. Now you can either pay me back my money or give to me what you owe me. I've stated to you enough about those fucking packages and how I've not received them. I paid for them why can I not have it? ???
Let me give you some insight as to how I cannot be lying about the packages. The parcel I was expecting from you wasn't expected until Monday, remember? Saturday I received the box. My wife and I thought it was a prank. We found it childishly amusing. I had no earthly idea who sent the box. Think about it. Why would I place it beneath my bed for two days?
For your sake as well as mine, please release to me what you owe me. I am begging you. I keep telling you that we go back far to long for me to EVER do something like this to you. I wouldn't cheat anyone out of anything. I have a complex about stealing. Our house was burgled while we were on vacation a long time ago and I remember feeling disgusted that someone actually went through our belongings. I was raised and brought up to work for what I have and respect others at all costs. My wife has never done a drug in her life. She is Asian and does not do drugs at all. Neither of us smoke, I drink beer on occasion. She condones what I do because I am without a job because of my visa status at the moment. We have serious bills to pay with that money that I am using to flip. It's unethical and risky but it's what I have to do at the moment to keep ourselves afloat.
My wife is one of the greatest people you could ever meet. She would not allow such a thing to happen to you. She would literally protect YOU from my actions if I were to steal from you. Thats her character mate!!!! If she had seen the packages as well as knowing that I am begging you to give to me what I paid at the same time (ie trying to scam you) she would be livid and angry at me to the point where she would make me return it and apologize. She keeps asking me, "Do you think he is going to send our stuff"? My reply is that I think so.
My wife was raised in Buddhism and she is a firm believer in Karma. Mate, I am asking you from the bottom of my heart to please make this right. We all know the difference between right and wrong and I think you already know something is wrong.
Look at these transactions I just sent to you. Not one of these had a problem during or after the transaction. Why would I start with you? It just doesn't make sense.
If I got caught running a scam on SR I would be permanently banned and my reputation would be destroyed. I would literally have to begin all over with a new account. I use this account proudly because it shows my true past performance. MATE PLEASE MAKE THIS RIGHT.
optikai0110 (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/messages/send_message/88039ebfeb) I need to know what's going on!!! You forgot about me. Keep me in the loop on everything. I would like to know what your decision was. I thought we were close to a resolution. Aren't we close to a resolution? We simply must for the sake of both of our time and reputations. Do you want to keep haing to deal with me on this situation? I bet you don't. I will not stop until I get what I paid for or my money back.
I have deadlines and a schedule to meet my friend and this transaction is way over due.
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optikai0110
Sounds fantastic. I'm not worried about the decision because I don't have it in me to ever do such a thing to anyone. And a fellow vendor at that. The bags were either taken out right after you packaged them or the mailman is psychic. For two days I didn't know who the box was from. That alone proves that I never received the packages. Someone else handled the package, knowing the contents and took advantage of the situation. I don't care how many times he or she says that it wasn't them, is flat our telling a complete lie. Someone knows exactly what happened. They know. It's deductive reasoning. Truly place yourself inside my shoes. Would a person who is just trying allegedly to run a scam go through this much trouble? Look back at our track record overall. I think that because I am on a so called "blacklist", it makes me look like a scammer or someone who would steal from another person. I already explained to you why I was on a "blacklist". Which is no reason at all. Me being on a blacklist, would therefore automatically create a negative image of myself when in fact I hold exquisite stats. You know how I get angry sometimes and threaten only because I am so honest with everyone and sometimes don't receive the same respect. The vendor who blacklisted me didn't want to give me a refund that he owed me. I still have the letter from the Border Control Agency telling me that they confiscated 7 grams. My point is that I never have to FE for anything because of my stats. Whoever took it might of been thinking that since I was on a blacklist, I could be fucked over and you would not believe me.
Not once have I gone outside the rules of SR. I have always been straight forward, honest and cheerful with everyone. Yes there can be an exception because I have a South Louisiana temper. That does not mean I don't know how to conduct a successful business transaction professionally, which is truly my first goal. No one in their right mind would go through the trouble that I have had to convey to you in order for you to understand and believe that I would ask god to strike my family down if I were lying.
It really only takes logic to come to the conclusion. You don't know very well, therefore you find it hard to trust my word. I can completely understand this.Would a person who was guilty be a bit shy about all of this or would he be open and forthcoming about it all?
The truth is for the last time, is that I never received my order. You were just as surprised as I were when you found out. This tells me that you delegated the responsibility to someone else to ship it if I am not mistaken. Someone knows this and has my meth. It surely would not have come out in the post. They couldn't admit to such a theft. Whoever they are!!
I can write alll day about this experience but you have a decision to make.
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happyman 4.5 hi, i wil be having a meeting with my seniors this evening about your parcel, if i fdont get back to you tonight i will let you know tomorrow.
cheers
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optikai0110 I need to talk to you today. Could you get in touch with me ASAP?
If you don't feel like having a phone conversation, can you get back to me today? I really need to know whats going on. Can you do that for me?
ASAP, thanks
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optikai0110 When do you think we will finally be over this mess? What are you deciding? How are we going to come to a resolution? The reason I ask is because I believe the option is still on the table to either refund my money or send me the goods this week. I also ask because I am on a time frame to sign up for the training course. If I miss this training course date then I will have to wait another month.
Also you never mentioned in your letters that you would want to continue supplying me with Ice. I don't know what your intentions are. I feel as though it could be a worthwhile business relatoinship.
Or do you want to just refund me my money and call it quits? Your call. But you have to be more verbal and answer these questions. Can you please give me a date as to when you will know about your decision? Are you out of meth and waiting for more? I noticed you took down your meth listing.
Holla back ASAP
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optikai0110 I cannot thank you enough for agreeing to come to a resolution because they are not in the box. I opened the box while sitting on my bed using a fresh razor blade. I did not rip it open so stuff could not fly everywhere. My wife was staring at me while I was opening the box the entire time. I slowly ripped the box apart like you eventually seen in the video. I had taken the video 2 days after I had the box lay beneath my bed.
My wife was sleeping when I woke up to get something to eat. I thought about the box beneath the bed, went get it and took another HARD HARD look. NOTHING!!! I had just then responded to your message.
The next day I recorded the movie on my phone because my camcorder would not give me the video files off of the camcorder. My wife had the phone so I had to wait until she got home from work.
The packages I can assure you were NOT in the BOX when I received it. There is no way I could overlook those packages. I was LOOKING HARD for them.
Thank you for finally resolving this with me. I cannot tell you how much I appreciate it. Thank you!!!!
When can I expect my package then? Could it be this week? Thanks again bro!!!
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happyman 4.5 the packages were in the box, sorry for late reply as i get my messages checked but i can only reply to them once im free
i don't know who to believe right now as Ive never had this problem, yes i did pack it my self, did u open the package yourself or did someone else open it for you?
you wouldn't be able to miss it cos its right there in the box where i put it myself
if i don't reply now i will reply once i back in the office this evening, we do really need to resolve this mate asap as i don't like these situations especially when im in here to build a solid reputation on trust and honesty!!
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optikai0110 --Wednesday 14th August--
Finalized early for 14 grams of high grade meth. Very trustworthy vendor. Have had a long time working relationship with him thus far and trust him with this. Everything goes smoothly each time and it should go the same this time around as well. I will definitely update this section upon arrival which will be tomorrow. This is a UK 2 UK order. Postage agreed upon was for overnight express delivery by 9AM with signature required.
--UPDATE-- Friday 16th August--
Got a response about the package. Should be on it's way now.
--Saturday 17th--
Still no change in status.
--Monday 19th--
Still nothing.
--Tuesday 20th--
Still nothing. I am sure it was nothing but a mix-up and I should be receiving my package any day now. Changed all of my status back to a 5/5. Should be getting it now. I think we have come to a resolution.
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Thats sucks man
Unfortunatly u FE'd meaning your screwed and unfortanantly sharing personal details will not help.
Contact SR and they might ban the account however the money is lost.
Feel sorry for u man and to anyone reading this is why u never FE
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why did you FE?
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A lot of FE going on over there.
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YOUR A DUMB ASS METH JUNKIE.....YOU FE'd and got ripped off...SR cant help and will not help...
how many times do we all have to say don't FE....if you cant afford to lose it don't buy it.
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I had been doing business with this guy. There is no need for name calling. I just flip it. I know I shouldn't have FE'd but he required me to do so or wouldn't ship my parcel.
happyman 4.5 we are finding it really hard to believe that you got the parcel and there was nothing in the box.
i really am not bothered about how you think you can screw me over mate!!!, Ive got a lot of people on sr who are my loyal customers who can vouch for my services.
ive been here since it started and i will always remain here!.
ive sent a copy of your message to sr, threatening me again, to make multiple accounts just to bring my status down!! (big mistake you made mate!!)
also if i don't reply it means i cant reply so please do use some common sense as to why i have not replied.
account get's checked through the day to check for orders, only i can reply to messages, so when i get a chance to i will!!
i did say we would come to resolution but again, ur attitude is really unprofessional
also i dont think you have read our terms and conditions
no refunds on high value items!!!
yet im still willing to help you, im now waiting on a shipment which is due in a week, all my money is tied into it, once that arrives i may refund you half the money provided my BOSS says ok
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Did you threaten to make loads of accounts to bring his status down?
Think you should wait for the resolution and if there is not a suitable one then come on here and bad mouth the vendor.
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I had been doing business with this guy. There is no need for name calling. I just flip it. I know I shouldn't have FE'd but he required me to do so or wouldn't ship my parcel.
Name calling???? you started this thread slamming the vendor as a scammer!. ???..sound like you need to take a break from drugs...There is no way in hell would i FE 1500 bucks..
I would rather buy a shit load of small buys, my cost a bit more but i wouldn't FE.
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He is willing to help you even though you FEd. I say wait and see what happens. stop rushing violently into things like a methhead.... oops i mean like a impatient customer.
but seriously though. one of your first reactions was to call him a scammer and now even when he said he will try and help you sort this out you still try to dirt up his reputation? its hard to tell who is a scammer and who is a methhead blackmailer who doesnt have enough
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I have been calm, I have opened up to you, I've been courteous and friendly. BUT THE GOD DAMNED, MOTHER FUCKING, COCK-SUCKING PACKAGES WERE NOT IN THE BOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WOULDN'T DO THAT TO YOU. I WOULD NOT LIE TO YOU. I WOULD NOT SIT HERE FOR DAYS AND DAYS (ALMOST TWO WEEKS) BEGGING TO YOU, PLEADING WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THE PARCEL I RECEIVED HAD NOTHING IN THE BOX? DO YOU REALLY?
I'VE TRIED TO CONVEY RESPECTIVELY MY CURRENT SITUATION AND EVEN PROOF. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS THINK ABOUT IT. HMMMMMMMMMMMM
LET ME THINK. HE RECEIVES A PACKAGE FROM A UNKNOWN SOURCE. DOESN'T CONTACT ME REGARDING THE ICE TO SAY THAT HE GOT IT, LIKE HE'S DONE WITH EVERYONE ELSE. HMMMMMMMMMM THIS GUY THINKS ITS A FUCKING PRACTICAL JOKE AND LEAVES THE BOX BENEATH HIS BED FOR TWO DAYS. HMMMMMMMMMM HE EVEN MADE A VIDEO AND UPLOADED IT TO YOUTUBE POSSIBLY THEREFORE EXPOSING AND RISKING HIS COMPLETE NAME OUT TO THE PUBLIC. HMMMMMMMMMMMMM LETS THINK ABOUT IT. WHY WOULD HE CONTINUOUSLY BE SO PERSISTENT ALL THE TIME????????? IF HE WERE A SCAM ARTIST, WOULDN'T HE HAVE QUIT BY NOW REALIZING THAT THE PRANK IS DEAD? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM LET'S THINK ABOUT IT SOME MORE SHALL WE. THIS MOTHER FUCKER SWORE ON HIS TWO LITTLE BOYS LIVES. HE DIVULGED SERIOUSLY PERSONAL INFORMATION TO SOME COMPLETE STRANGER THEREFORE EVEN FURTHER RISKING HIS TRUE IDENTITY BECAUSE THE END NODES OF A TOR CONNECTION ARE NOT ENCRYPTED AND OPEN FOR ANYONE TO READ (LOOK IT UP). HE HAS RISKED HIS PERSONAL SAFETY TO AN INDIVIDUAL THAT STILL REFUSES TO EVEN CONTEMPLATE THE VERY NOTION THAT WHAT I AM SAYING IS ACCURATE AND TRUE. HE HAS HAD A MOST STRESSFUL WEEK THIS WEEK, CAUSING CONFLICT BETWEEN HIMSELF AND HIS WIFE. SHE SAYS SHE CAN NO LONGER TRUST HIM WITH OUR MONEY, SHE BLAMES HIM FOR THIS. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MAYBE HE IS TELLING THE TRUTH. MAYBE HE REALLY DIDN'T RECEIVE THOSE PACKAGES BECAUSE ONLY A TRUE SOCIOPATH WOULD ACTUALLY SIT FOR HOURS WAITING, EXPOSE HIS IDENTITY, WRITE NOTE AFTER NOTE BEGGING ANOTHER MAN TO MAKE THIS RIGHT.
HE DOESN'T NEED THIS GRIEF NOR DOES HE EVER WANT TO CAUSE YOU ANY TYPE OF HARM OR UPSET YOU. HMMMMMMMMMMMM WHY WOULD AN INDIVIDUAL START REPORTING ANOTHER PERSON TO SR AS A SCAMMER??????? WHY WOULD HE GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE ACT OF BRINGING YOUR ACCOUNT TO A CLOSE? MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE HE FEELS CHEATED. MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE HE REALLY DIDN'T GET WHAT HE PAID FOR AND NO ONE IS GIVING A SHIT OR DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT. HMMMMMMMMMMMM LET'S TRULY THINK THIS THROUGH
WOULD IT BE EASY OR HARD TO FOOL SOMEONE ABOUT A MISSING PACKAGE? IT WOULD BE HARD RIGHT? SO THERE, CASE AND POINT. HE QUITE SIMPLY WOULD NOT HAVE IT IN HIM TO CARRY OUT A SCAM OF THIS MAGNITUDE. THERE WOULD BE SOME FLAW IN HIS LOGIC, THERE WOULD BE CONTRADICTIONS. BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN ONE SINGLE MISTAKE BECAUSE HE IS BEING HONEST.
EVEN AFTER READING YOUR TERMS AND CONDITIONS HE PLACES HIS ENTIRE TRUST INTO ANOTHER PERSONS HANDS.
MAYBE HE IS TRULY UPSET DEEP DOWN AND CANNOT FIND RESPECT IN THIS SITUATION FROM THE OTHER PERSON. HE CERTAINLY CANNOT FATHOM FEELING GUILTY FOR BRINGING DOWN ANOTHER BROTHER VENDOR BASED ON A SO CALLED LIE. HMMMMMMMMMM THAT'S THE TRUTH AND MOST CERTAINLY IS A LOGICAL POINT. HMMMMMMMM THAT TRULY MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
ALL THESE WORDS, ALL THIS HONESTY, WRITING ON THE FORUMS, POSTING ON YOUR WALL, LOWERING YOUR SCORE, WRITING BAD REVIEWS ALL GROUPS TOGETHER INTO A PLAUSIBLE MINDSET. HOW COULD SOME ONE ALMOST FOR TWO WEEKS WITHOUT REST, CONSTANTLY SPENDING ALL HIS FREE TIME WRITING LETTERS AND WRITING TO SR FOR HELP BE LYING? IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR HIM TO DECEIVE ANOTHER HUMAN BEING AND BRING HIS ACCOUNT TO A CLOSE ALL FOR SOMETHING HE IS OWED, BASED ON THE TRUTH, ESPECIALLY IF HE DESERVES IT.
HE WOULD NOT WASTE HIS TIME IN A COLOSSAL WAY ALL TO GET HIS WAY. HE WOULD HAVE THANKED THE VENDOR AND NOW BEEN ASKING FOR MORE BECAUSE ALL HE THINKS ABOUT IS BUSINESS FOR HIS FAMILY. NOT WASTING SOMEONE ELSE'S TIME AND SMEARING HIS NAME. WOULDN'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COULDN'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THINK ABOUT BOTH OUR REPUTATIONS BEING AT STAKE. THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING YOUR ACCOUNT SUSPENDED AND THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING HIS ACCOUNT CLOSED. BOTH OF OUR ACCOUNTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US. WE HAVE BOTH OBTAINED A CERTAIN STATUS THAT WE HAVE EACH DESERVED. HIS STATS ARE METICULOUS AND YOU DON'T HAVE BAD STATS EITHER. WHY WOULD HE GO ON A SMEAR CAMPAIGN?????
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
NOT ONCE HAVE YOU EVEN GIVEN ME THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. NOT ONCE. CALLING ME A LIAR AND THIEF TAKES THE CAKE FOR ME BECAUSE I WOULD NEVER STOOP SO LOW AS TO HUMILIATE YOU FOR "NO REASON". COME ON, PLAY FAIR AND MAKE ME STOP THIS MADNESS!!!!!!! I HATE DOING THIS TO SOMEONE BUT I CAN SAY DEEP DOWN THAT I KNOW THIS IS RIGHT AND FAIR. I WISH THIS NEVER HAPPENED TO US BOTH BUT YOU MUST COME TO A DIRECT CONCLUSION ABOUT ME, WHAT I'VE SAID ABOUT ALL OF THIS, AND KNOW THIS MATE, YOU MAKE ME FEEL LIKE TOTAL SHIT WHEN YOU ACCUSE ME OF CHEATING YOU OUT. DON'T YOU THINK THAT I WOULD NOT HAVE GONE SO FAR BASED ON A LIE. WHAT I MEAN IS THAT IF I WERE LYING, WHY WOULD I STILL GO THROUGH ALL THIS TROUBLE TO REPORT YOU TO SR? WHY WOULD I CREATE A THREAD ON THE FORUMS? IT JUST DOESN'T ADD UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKING THINK ABOUT IT, WILL YOU.
"we are finding it really hard to believe that you got the parcel and there was nothing in the box." I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU TOLD ME THAT. WHAT KIND OF WORLD DO WE LIVE IN? DO YOU KNOW HOW DISRESPECTFUL THAT IS????? A POTENTIALLY GREAT CLIENT I COULD MAKE YOU AND ME WANTING TO FURTHER OUR DEALINGS IN THE FUTURE WOULD NEVER BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS ME. I DESPERATELY NEED A SUPPLIER AND I TRULY THOUGHT YOU WERE IT. EITHER RESPECT ME AS A LOYAL CUSTOMER OR DON'T DEAL WITH ME AT ALL. YOU CHOSE TO DEAL WITH ME REGARDLESS OF ME HAVING BEEN PLACED ON A SILLY BLACKLIST. WE BOTH PLACED OUR TRUSTS IN ONE ANOTHER. I FE'd FOR YOU WHEN I NEVER FE FOR ANYONE. I NEVER FINALIZE EARLY FOR ANYONE AND YET I COMPLETELY TRUSTED YOU FOR THIS DEAL. MY HANDS NEVER TOUCHED A SINGLE GRAIN OF METH FROM YOU. NOW IT'S YOUR WORD AGAINST MINE WHICH ISN'T FUCKING FAIR, ONLY BECAUSE MY NAME IS ON A STUPID BLACKLIST FOR NO REASON. I BET YOU NEVER ONCE TOOK UP FOR ME IN YOUR MEETING WITH YOUR BOSS. I BET YOU NEVER ONCE SPOKE ON MY BEHALF!!!!!! I FEEL SO BETRAYED AND ANGRY. THESE PAST FEW DAYS HAVE BEEN A CONSTANT STRUGGLE BECAUSE YOU WERE SO VERBAL WITH ME WHEN IT WAS TIME FOR ME TO PAY YOU BUT NOW YOU THINK FUCK ALL ABOUT THIS AND DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK.
I AM SORRY FOR HAVING TO RIP YOU TO PIECES ON THE FORUMS AND SPEAK MY MIND ON YOUR REVIEW SECTIONS. IT HURTS ME TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND I HOPE YOU DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY. BUT I NEVER RECEIVED MY METH FROM YOU NOR MY KETAMINE. AND THIS IS THE GOD'S HONEST TRUTH. I SIMPLY COULD NOT EVEN COME UP WITH A SCHEME LIKE THIS MY FRIEND. I DON'T HAVE IT IN ME. MY MISTAKE IS THAT I NAIVELY TRUST EVERYONE I MEET, I AUTOMATICALLY HAVE ENTRUSTMENT AND THAT'S MY WEAKNESS. SOME PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MY WEAKNESS WHEN I LET MY GUARD DOWN. I AM NAIVE. AND IT HAS BITTEN ME HARD THIS TIME. SOMETHING THAT IS HARD TO SWALLOW BECAUSE WE ARE NOT FINANCIALLY SOUND AND THIS KIND OF HIT TO US WAS AND IS PROBABLY THE WORST BLOW WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN A LONG TIME. THIS IS A SERIOUS BLOW TO OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION. HARD!!!!!!!
NOT ONCE HAVE YOU TRUSTED ME ENOUGH TO CONSIDER THAT MAYBE WHAT I AM SAYING IS ACTUALLY WHAT HAPPENED. YOU HAVE NEVER CONSIDERED MY STATS, CONTACTED ANY PRIOR VENDORS WHOM I HAVE DEALT WITH (WHICH CAN ALL GIVE ME A REFERENCE). ALL OF A SUDDEN I CHOSE YOU TO FUCK OVER??????!!!!!!!!! GET FUCKED AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU FEEL ABOUT ME. ALL I HAVE TO SHOW ARE BEAUTIFUL STATS AND A SOLID REPUTATION WHICH I HAVE EARNED.
DO YOU THINK I WOULD RATHER BE PLAYING WITH MY CHILDREN RATHER THAN DEALING WITH THE POTENTIAL LOSS OF $1500?????? I HAVE BEEN WRITING THIS LETTER OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST 4 HOURS. THAT'S MY APPEAL TO YOU, FOR REPRISE. THAT'S HOW DEDICATED I AM TO THIS SITUATION!!!!
I REFUSE TO ACCEPT MY LOSS.
CAN'T YOU SEE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN MY ACTIONS AND WHAT HAPPENED? SON OF A BITCH THIS HURTS!!!!! YOU HAVE MY WIFE CRYING, ALL STRESSED OUT. THIS SITUATION COULD BE RESOLVED SO QUICKLY, LIKE. YET I GET TREATED LIKE I STOLE FROM YOU. WHERE I AM FROM, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR AND THAT'S IT. JUST LIKE EVERYWHERE ELSE. MY MORALS ARE INTACT AND I WOULD NEVER EVER TRY TO STEAL FROM YOU OR ANYONE FOR THAT MATTER. FOR ME TO BE TREATED LIKE I AM TRYING TO CHEAT YOU IS FUCKING DISGUSTING AND DISRESPECTFUL. AND I CANNOT DEFEND MYSELF AGAINST THIS. THE ONLY THING I CAN DO IS POST WHAT HAPPENED. WHY WOULD I GO THROUGH ALL THE TROUBLE OF HARASSING YOU AND LEAVING ALL THIS EVIDENCE?????????????? I CAN ASK THAT YOU ABSORB THESE WORDS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE GODS HONEST TRUTH. ALL I WANT IS WHAT I PAID FOR. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?
Kai
PS I ONLY SAID THAT IF YOU STOPPED COMMUNICATING WITH ME I WOULD USE MY OTHER ACCOUNTS TO BRING YOUR ACCOUNT DOWN. I DIDN'T ACTUALLY DO IT.
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He is willing to help you even though you FEd. I say wait and see what happens. stop rushing violently into things like a methhead.... oops i mean like a impatient customer.
but seriously though. one of your first reactions was to call him a scammer and now even when he said he will try and help you sort this out you still try to dirt up his reputation? its hard to tell who is a scammer and who is a methhead blackmailer who doesnt have enough
He is willing to help you even though you FEd. I say wait and see what happens. stop rushing violently into things like a methhead.... oops i mean like a impatient customer.
but seriously though. one of your first reactions was to call him a scammer and now even when he said he will try and help you sort this out you still try to dirt up his reputation? its hard to tell who is a scammer and who is a methhead blackmailer who doesnt have enough
I think the worse part of all this is the sheer lack of communication over time. When it was time to pay he was there for me and we communicated well together. Because I trusted him so much, it truly shocked me to the core when he accused me of trying to steal from him. All of a sudden I was the bad guy and yet he would not empathize with my situation. If someone sent you a box of broken iPhone parts with nothing else in it and basically cut all communication with you, wouldn't you start to get angry and fearful that the money is gone?
I know, I know. Dont spent what you cannot loose.
This has turned into a massive escapade that has sucked my time and damaged both our reputations.
I dont regret posting all of our conversations because I want someone else to see the pattern of lack of communication. I would like for someone to look at the big picture and draw their own conclusions by reading between the lines.
I know that I should not have FE. But he told me that my package was ready for delivery the very next day, when I didn't receive a package until 4 days later. He eventually told me that it would be Monday until I received it. But I got a knock on the door from the postman on Saturday unexpectedly.
I opened the box with a razor blade and found nothing but broken iPhone parts. I had no idea at that time who the box was from. I continued messaging him telling him that I cannot wait until Monday not knowing that the box was from him the entire time. I had the box underneath my bed for two days where it sat. My wife was watching me open the box the entire time. She has never touched a drug her entire life. So it's not like she was drooling over the box for a hit off the vape pipe. I was expecting the package but not that soon.
I even posted the video of me going through the box on youtube.
About the help I am supposed to receive from him, I feel like he doesn't care about the situation one bit. This is why I am so angry. Time will tell if he decides to help me out because I just lost $1500.
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at this point i wouldn't help you, You FEd and your fucked.
time to let it go...next time don't FE ...Now, put the pipe down and step away, far away...do not listen to it..its not talking, its in your mind.
hey i have a pound of meth i can sell you for 1k...let me know if you want it. :P
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A meth dealing Buddhist who believes in karma got scammed. I know this is mean to poke fun of but It's kinda funny.
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Did you threaten to make loads of accounts to bring his status down?
Think you should wait for the resolution and if there is not a suitable one then come on here and bad mouth the vendor.
You are absolutely right. I should wait for the resolution. But I got nervous when he started accusing me of cheating and lying. I am not per say bad mouthing him as much as I am stating facts and basing this entire thread around the communication transfer between us both.
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Quick question for you. You wrote to me in your messages saying this:
"happyman 4.5 the packages were in the box, sorry for late reply as i get my messages checked but i can only reply to them once im free
i don't know who to believe right now as Ive never had this problem, yes i did pack it my self, did u open the package yourself or did someone else open it for you?
you wouldn't be able to miss it cos its right there in the box where i put it myself
if i don't reply now i will reply once i back in the office this evening, we do really need to resolve this mate asap as i don't like these situations especially when im in here to build a solid reputation on trust and honesty!!"
Specifically this: "i don't know who to believe right now as Ive never had this problem"
To whom were you referring? I have the feeling that there is a team, a network of sorts in your organization. If YOU sent the package YOU would of never said "i don't know who to believe right now"
You didn't ship the package did you? You having to believe someone else along with my statement, you having to choose between the two of us tells me plenty. Right there in plain sight is the answer to it all. "i don't know who to believe right now as Ive never had this problem"
Does this make sense to you?
That sentence implies that someone else was involved in the handling of my package. Am I right?
If someone else handled the box, why haven't they been looked at?
I want to stop all of this, bro. I don't want to continue sending you messages like this. I want to stop this smear campaign against you. I cannot stand doing this anymore. All it would have took is for you to actually trust me like I did you and none of this would have happened. This is my true nature. Not what I am doing to your reputation.
Can you at least think about getting me what you owe me. I would take 10 grams instead of 14. I am trying to compromise even though I deserve 14 grams + 1 gram K. I think it's time we brought this to a close and settled it for good.
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at this point i wouldn't help you, You FEd and your fucked.
time to let it go...next time don't FE ...Now, put the pipe down and step away, far away...do not listen to it..its not talking, its in your mind.
hey i have a pound of meth i can sell you for 1k...let me know if you want it. :P
I pound for a thousand? Do I have to FE?
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at this point i wouldn't help you, You FEd and your fucked.
time to let it go...next time don't FE ...Now, put the pipe down and step away, far away...do not listen to it..its not talking, its in your mind.
hey i have a pound of meth i can sell you for 1k...let me know if you want it. :P
I pound for a thousand? Do I have to FE?
looool you got major issues brother.
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at this point i wouldn't help you, You FEd and your fucked.
time to let it go...next time don't FE ...Now, put the pipe down and step away, far away...do not listen to it..its not talking, its in your mind.
hey i have a pound of meth i can sell you for 1k...let me know if you want it. :P
I pound for a thousand? Do I have to FE?
looool you got major issues brother.
I was trying to bring some light into this dark ass thread!!!! Trying to be funny!!!!
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Quick question for you. You wrote to me in your messages saying this:
"happyman 4.5 the packages were in the box, sorry for late reply as i get my messages checked but i can only reply to them once im free
i don't know who to believe right now as Ive never had this problem, yes i did pack it my self, did u open the package yourself or did someone else open it for you?
you wouldn't be able to miss it cos its right there in the box where i put it myself
if i don't reply now i will reply once i back in the office this evening, we do really need to resolve this mate asap as i don't like these situations especially when im in here to build a solid reputation on trust and honesty!!"
Specifically this: "i don't know who to believe right now as Ive never had this problem"
To whom were you referring? I have the feeling that there is a team, a network of sorts in your organization. If YOU sent the package YOU would of never said "i don't know who to believe right now"
You didn't ship the package did you? You having to believe someone else along with my statement, you having to choose between the two of us tells me plenty. Right there in plain sight is the answer to it all. "i don't know who to believe right now as Ive never had this problem"
Does this make sense to you?
That sentence implies that someone else was involved in the handling of my package. Am I right?
If someone else handled the box, why haven't they been looked at?
I want to stop all of this, bro. I don't want to continue sending you messages like this. I want to stop this smear campaign against you. I cannot stand doing this anymore. All it would have took is for you to actually trust me like I did you and none of this would have happened. This is my true nature. Not what I am doing to your reputation.
Can you at least think about getting me what you owe me. I would take 10 grams instead of 14. I am trying to compromise even though I deserve 14 grams + 1 gram K. I think it's time we brought this to a close and settled it for good.
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Honestly if I were a vendor I wouldn't refund packages that had a status of delivered, or if anything I would only refund an amount so that I didn't lose any money myself. Shit does happen but unfortunately scamming is far more common.
No offense to you MagneticFreeze. I've certainly taken a few hits on bad deals as a customer. It sucks.
I wouldn't stress about the fact that you FEed though. If the package was delivered then I doubt SR support would have granted you a refund.
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status: finalized
buyer: optikai0110
seller: Miss Demeanor 5.0
item: Crystal Meth / 7 Grams / Australia
quantity: 1
shipping: Free
postage: ฿0.0000
total price: ฿4.7451
ordered: August 1, 2013, 5:01 pm UTC
shipped: August 1, 2013, 5:33 pm UTC
finalized: August 1, 2013, 6:00 pm UTC
Going a little offtopic if I may, did you ever receive this package from Miss Demeanor?
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status: finalized
buyer: optikai0110
seller: Miss Demeanor 5.0
item: Crystal Meth / 7 Grams / Australia
quantity: 1
shipping: Free
postage: ฿0.0000
total price: ฿4.7451
ordered: August 1, 2013, 5:01 pm UTC
shipped: August 1, 2013, 5:33 pm UTC
finalized: August 1, 2013, 6:00 pm UTC
Going a little offtopic if I may, did you ever receive this package from Miss Demeanor?
No I didn't. Why? She is on another continent and she has already offered me my resolution for it not appearing. She has been very upfront throughout the entire transaction. I know that she has since shut shop down supposedly because people were calling her scammer. She looked like the real deal to me. No telling what is going on.
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Quick question for you. You wrote to me in your messages saying this:
"happyman 4.5 the packages were in the box, sorry for late reply as i get my messages checked but i can only reply to them once im free
i don't know who to believe right now as Ive never had this problem, yes i did pack it my self, did u open the package yourself or did someone else open it for you?
you wouldn't be able to miss it cos its right there in the box where i put it myself
if i don't reply now i will reply once i back in the office this evening, we do really need to resolve this mate asap as i don't like these situations especially when im in here to build a solid reputation on trust and honesty!!"
Specifically this: "i don't know who to believe right now as Ive never had this problem"
To whom were you referring? I have the feeling that there is a team, a network of sorts in your organization. If YOU sent the package YOU would of never said "i don't know who to believe right now"
You didn't ship the package did you? You having to believe someone else along with my statement, you having to choose between the two of us tells me plenty. Right there in plain sight is the answer to it all. "i don't know who to believe right now as Ive never had this problem"
Does this make sense to you?
That sentence implies that someone else was involved in the handling of my package. Am I right?
If someone else handled the box, why haven't they been looked at?
I want to stop all of this, bro. I don't want to continue sending you messages like this. I want to stop this smear campaign against you. I cannot stand doing this anymore. All it would have took is for you to actually trust me like I did you and none of this would have happened. This is my true nature. Not what I am doing to your reputation.
Can you at least think about getting me what you owe me. I would take 10 grams instead of 14. I am trying to compromise even though I deserve 14 grams + 1 gram K. I think it's time we brought this to a close and settled it for good.
I just caught his ass in a lie. He says that he packaged and sent off the box supposedly including my drugs. But according to his second to last note to me, he admits that he doesn't know who to believe right now. Therefore including a third party. He doesn't say shit when I reply to him with this because I finally caught his ass in a lie.
This was not for $20 or $75, this was for $1500.
He straight fucked me and knew about it the entire time. This was not an accident. This is his mindset for customers. I will keep this thread alive for months if I have to, just to feel like I have gotten even with him. Yes, I seek revenge. I seek my motherfucking money back is what I seek. I won't see that so this is all I have.
Stay far away from this leech.
Am I right or am I wrong for saying so? I know how I feel.
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What do you expect, as far as i'm concerned you would have to be a fool to trust someone with that amount of money. live and learn mate
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New message to him from me......
"Still no resolution, huh?"
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What do you expect, as far as i'm concerned you would have to be a fool to trust someone with that amount of money. live and learn mate
Can you ever expect someone to fuck you out of that much money? I mean, after finalizing $1500 you would expect normal human beings to actually make sure that you get what you paid for! Live and learn, well, I lived it and I am learning from it right now. But he should put out some responsibility. He needs to learn from this as well. He needs to understand that he is getting $1500 worth of bad press for his actions. And I am going to be the one who gives it to him. 8)
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status: finalized
buyer: optikai0110
seller: Miss Demeanor 5.0
item: Crystal Meth / 7 Grams / Australia
quantity: 1
shipping: Free
postage: ฿0.0000
total price: ฿4.7451
ordered: August 1, 2013, 5:01 pm UTC
shipped: August 1, 2013, 5:33 pm UTC
finalized: August 1, 2013, 6:00 pm UTC
Going a little offtopic if I may, did you ever receive this package from Miss Demeanor?
No I didn't. Why? She is on another continent and she has already offered me my resolution for it not appearing. She has been very upfront throughout the entire transaction. I know that she has since shut shop down supposedly because people were calling her scammer. She looked like the real deal to me. No telling what is going on.
I also ordered from her, and still haven't received my package. 26days and counting
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status: finalized
buyer: optikai0110
seller: Miss Demeanor 5.0
item: Crystal Meth / 7 Grams / Australia
quantity: 1
shipping: Free
postage: ฿0.0000
total price: ฿4.7451
ordered: August 1, 2013, 5:01 pm UTC
shipped: August 1, 2013, 5:33 pm UTC
finalized: August 1, 2013, 6:00 pm UTC
Going a little offtopic if I may, did you ever receive this package from Miss Demeanor?
No I didn't. Why? She is on another continent and she has already offered me my resolution for it not appearing. She has been very upfront throughout the entire transaction. I know that she has since shut shop down supposedly because people were calling her scammer. She looked like the real deal to me. No telling what is going on.
I also ordered from her, and still haven't received my package. 26days and counting
I was just reading on her discussion thread on her home page about all the people who has ordered from her and has not received their goods. Something is amiss in that region of space she occupies. That many people not getting their material, many, many people upset. Some are getting it though. She sent me a picture of my order along with my address printed on a label. Did she do that for you?
She is giving me a 50% refund.
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I obviously have no idea who's doing the scamming here, but you really seem sketchy as hell to me.
Also, you have multiple profiles (you stated this yourself) and you've been blacklisted (also stated this yourself). Between those two things and the way you come across in your messages- you don't seem terribly trustworthy. You seem like a junkie.
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On happyman's page says he is under new management which seems laughable. Also says "meth sales are 5pm cut off (the friend who is looking after and posting it lives closer to a post office and proof of postage is obtained". He has a lot of bad feedback over several pages too that is nothing to do with you. My thoughts are even if you have trust with a vendor always ready their current feedback before a new transaction and never ever ever FE. I really don't know who to believe but i sure as fuck chose another vendor to order my coke from after seeing this so thanks for posting.
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status: finalized
buyer: optikai0110
seller: Miss Demeanor 5.0
item: Crystal Meth / 7 Grams / Australia
quantity: 1
shipping: Free
postage: ฿0.0000
total price: ฿4.7451
ordered: August 1, 2013, 5:01 pm UTC
shipped: August 1, 2013, 5:33 pm UTC
finalized: August 1, 2013, 6:00 pm UTC
Going a little offtopic if I may, did you ever receive this package from Miss Demeanor?
No I didn't. Why? She is on another continent and she has already offered me my resolution for it not appearing. She has been very upfront throughout the entire transaction. I know that she has since shut shop down supposedly because people were calling her scammer. She looked like the real deal to me. No telling what is going on.
I also ordered from her, and still haven't received my package. 26days and counting
I was just reading on her discussion thread on her home page about all the people who has ordered from her and has not received their goods. Something is amiss in that region of space she occupies. That many people not getting their material, many, many people upset. Some are getting it though. She sent me a picture of my order along with my address printed on a label. Did she do that for you?
She is giving me a 50% refund.
She has not shown me any picture, but she did offer to reship my order, I feel a little more faithful now that I can hopefully choose tracking on my package.
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I obviously have no idea who's doing the scamming here, but you really seem sketchy as hell to me.
Also, you have multiple profiles (you stated this yourself) and you've been blacklisted (also stated this yourself). Between those two things and the way you come across in your messages- you don't seem terribly trustworthy. You seem like a junkie.
I am quite simply trying to get what's owed to me. I seem like a junkie? Wow.
I have two accounts, yes. One for purchasing and one for selling. I like to keep things separate if that's OK with you.
Me being blacklisted has nothing to do with anything AT ALL! Sounds like you work for Happyman the vendor. If you cannot see the scam happening here, then I don't know what to tell you. It's as obvious as day and you haven't truly read the messages.
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welcome welcome aboard the road ... lol used to be brilliant on here.. its not know ...why?
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Why would an individual & vendor, ask yourself, put out there for careful consideration amongst the masses reasons why he was deliberately and intentionally robbed for $1500?
At this point I would love for it to be a mistake! At this point I would love for some type of communication and feedback from the vendor that regrettably and willfully even being on a blacklist to begin with, made a transaction with. He knew this from the beginning. I could have switched accounts or made a new one. But I didn't because it is a beautiful account with over $9000 spent and only a 1% finalization rate. The 1% finalization comes from a vendor whom I will not name because he made everything alright with me in the end result. He paid me my refund that I was entitled to. Maybe he just forgot to take me off of the list. All I know is that we had an argument, the real reason I was placed on a blacklist to begin with, that I should or shouldn't be refunded 50% according to his refund policy when I had a DEA letter telling me that I had a package that was confiscated. That's the only reason I was placed on a blacklist to begin with.
Yet all I can ever do is learn and never repeat the same mistake. Yet he gets to sit back with a fist full of cash and laugh all the way to the bank with no recourse.
I have therefore potentially crippled my reputation, I am sure, for all these postings, alongside his, just for others not to get burned in the same manner. All because I quite simply care. This matters, especially for others to know how important FE can be at times.
I made a mistake and FE'd. Well when I got burnt, I made it a point to let others know just how important this function is in light of my darkness. A $1500 lesson that I bought for each and every member to the SR.
That's the way I see it now.
I will see no resolution to this matter. Why would I place it all on the line for a simple laugh or mistake on my end? Come on now!!!!!
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What do you expect, as far as i'm concerned you would have to be a fool to trust someone with that amount of money. live and learn mate
Can you ever expect someone to fuck you out of that much money?
Where do you live bro? Who-ville? The world is filled with shit heads and dip shits(not the best smelling world). If you have to ask, "Can you ever expect someone to fuck you out of that much money?" and are actually serious, then you have A LOT to learn my friend.
EDIT* Aaaaaand you made a youtube video?! *facepalm*
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i think you got it, smoked it, lost your mind, found the box empty and thinks he sent it with no drugs...
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i think you got it, smoked it, lost your mind, found the box empty and thinks he sent it with no drugs...
I WISH THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED. In that order as well, mate. LOL
Can you believe that I actually received a box filled with broken iPhone parts ONLY. Fucked up shit.
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Didn't read all i'm gonna say is
don't finalize early under any circumstances trusted vendor or not.. They go a wall and because you trust them you fe and you get screwed... Remeber dealers aren't your friends they are your dealers..
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What do you expect, as far as i'm concerned you would have to be a fool to trust someone with that amount of money. live and learn mate
Can you ever expect someone to fuck you out of that much money?
Where do you live bro? Who-ville? The world is filled with shit heads and dip shits(not the best smelling world). If you have to ask, "Can you ever expect someone to fuck you out of that much money?" and are actually serious, then you have A LOT to learn my friend.
EDIT* Aaaaaand you made a youtube video?! *facepalm*
I quite simply am just a trusting type of guy. I kind of live based on a set of reciprocating morals and standards. Guess this is where being naive kicks in. :-[
And, yes I made a video clip. That was what my state of mind was like. I wanted him to see the box of broken iPhone parts. It wasn't the smartest thing to do and most private thing to do. But that's how stranded I felt. I could see time going on and on and I felt like this was my only moment to display some type of truth. I was in a panic state.
I have always disconnected my profile from my YouTube page so there is no way of ever knowing who I was. Just shows my user name....
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At the risk of sounding like too much of a Dick...
- This is a link at the top right hand side of the main SR Site, it reads:
"A few words from DPR"
The author has penned some basic guidelines and some tips for using the anonymous market place we all know and love.
Of the three, main bulleted points, the very first one is:
"Always use the escrow system!
This can't be stressed enough.
99% of scams are from people who set up fake vendor accounts and ask buyers to pay them directly or release payment before their order arrives.
This behavior should be reported immediately.
If you do choose to do this, we will be completely unable to help you in the event of fraud."
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Now, I'm not taking side on this, and I'm certainly not calling scammer on either parties.
Personally, I won't purchase from Happyman again since I tried them a few months back, because the quality was too low for me, just threw it away.
I was within ESCROW though and I finalized, let him have his cash, left my honest feedback about the transaction and moved on)
(You are free to choose whom you deal with).
Again, don't want to sound like too much of a dick, but Finalizing Early is gambling, pure and simple.
Risking your personal identity to boot is like doubling down on a guaranteed losing hand!
Surely this risk is not worth it given that you were intending to resell on the road too! (I'm assuking this from previous posts and product requests, etc.)
Please, you must take more care, You may well have have lost out, whatever the mechanism...
but you should know the basics of this marketplace if you are vending!
Never FE, especially not large amounts of capital,
unless you are able/ potentially willing to lose that investment...
if you are using money which should be for you to live on and gambling in this manner, that is your risk alone.
Slanging matches, Name Muddying, etc. is not going to change the fact that you have finalized a transaction (Thus Completed).
Suggestions:
Accept the loss, LEARN and move on, don't buy from them again. leave honest feedback, let other forum members know about the sour deal if you want, but other than that, there is little else to do.
(Except safety wise, maybe buy a new vendor account which isn't now tied to your delivery address?)
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Anyway, apologies for sounding negative, but everyone needs to understand.
With anonymous trading,
If you don't remain in ESCROW, how can you expect your money to be secure during any transaction? - You can't.
Anyway, Hope you manage to pull through this and it doesn't affect your family too much.
Take care
Peace, BF
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Wow what a very neutral post regarding this whole situation. No swearing, no name calling. LOL. Like a breath of fresh air.
All I truly want is a resolution from this matter. That's all I deserve.
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Wow what a very neutral post regarding this whole situation. No swearing, no name calling. LOL. Like a breath of fresh air.
All I truly want is a resolution from this matter. That's all I deserve.
i think your 100% right...if you need any help just give me a call
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I am still waiting on a resolution. Will keep this thread alive for as long as it takes to get what I deserve.
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Wow what a very neutral post regarding this whole situation. No swearing, no name calling. LOL. Like a breath of fresh air.
All I truly want is a resolution from this matter. That's all I deserve.
i think your 100% right...if you need any help just give me a call
Thanks for that, much appreciated.
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Here is a new message directed from me to him: :-[
{{CAN WE TALK PLEASE OF A RESOLUTION?? - Please think about this}}
Can we please come to terms with this transaction? If you noticed, I have not said anything derogatory towards you. I am a journalist and I am simply stating facts. The fact remains that I spent $1500 with you and received nothing. NOTHING. Not my ketamine, or meth. Now, I think that I have made my point and would like to discontinue my forum threads based on our very ugly transaction. It's all I have at the moment tying this whole transaction together.
I could have made this a whole lot uglier by name calling but I took the high road on this and feel like as much I have been cheated for, I deserved some kind of respect towards this aspect of communication. But I get the silent treatment. I know it would be difficult for you to simply state a error on your part but I would accept that and move forward. Errors happen, especially when there are that many people in your organization.
I am straight begging you for some kind of resolution on your part.
Please accept the fact that I cannot loose that much money at one time and we are still trying to recover from this loss. Just place yourself in my shoes for a moment.
Could you please, please send me a 50% refund on the transaction? You said you might be able to do this if it were your bosses decision to do so.
There are over 900 views on the forum thread.
I didn't think that there would be that many people interested in what I had to say. I was so mad that I vowed to never let it grow old and constantly update it, keeping it ahead of the others so everyone can see it constantly. This is how strongly I felt towards this situation.
This could be hurting your business or could not be doing anything at all. But wouldn't it be nice to read that we actually came to a resolution?
"HAPPYMAN & OPTIKAI0110 finally work it out - A RESOLUTION" would be so much better than what is actually written now.
I am really trying here!!
You know that all of my messages can be deleted and reversed leaving a fresh start. I am asking you to come to a resolution with me and not to ignore me.
I think that I have had a lot to say over the past few weeks. I think that you of all people, especially being a vendor yourself, would actually know how to differentiate between the scammers and the real customers. If you didn't, you would not be in business for very long, am I right?
Now ask yourself this, if I were trying to scam you, don't you think that I would have tried to stop by now? The reason why I have not stopped is because this is what is factual and actually what happened.
Let's take this transaction back to day one, you asked me to FE because I was on a stupid blacklist. I agreed because basically you had exactly what I needed and still need to this very day. Now, the sane and especially people with the gorgeous stats that I have, would, IF THEY RECEIVED WHAT THEY GOT be happy and close the case. But since I NEVER RECEIVED anything, I have sent a hailstorm of messages to the only person who can fix the entire mess. YOU
You are the only person whom has the resources to pull together for the customer. Since I am on a blacklist, you decided afterwards not to deal with me, which isn't fair at all because you already took my money.
If you would have decided BEFORE the transaction NOT to deal with me then that would have been absolutely fine. But you choose to deal with me regardless of me being on a blacklist.
I am asking for you to please make this right, even if it is slightly in my favor. Recovering some of the loss would be nice. I am asking you to find a way to help me recover some of this loss.
I have been respectful and honest the entire time dealing with you. I may have gotten angry at times but I deserved every right to be angry. Wouldn't you have been angry?
I am asking to end this finally and once for all. YOU were the one who said that there might be a resolution, and I am asking for you to fulfill this promise.
Thanks,
Kai
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Still no reply.............
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Dude no offense but you're starting to sound like a stalkerish teenager. Theres a few basic rules when i comes to buying drugs
1) Never spend more than you can afford to lose
2) Never FE, especially for bigger orders
3) If you take a knock, suck it up, learn from it and move on
And it seems like you've failed all 3..
No offence but these long winded rambling messages wouldn't convince me, i'd be thinking 'what're the chances this guy recieved a package i sent and packed, but empty compared to him tweaking to fuck and either wanting some freebies or is just very confused, shown by his ranting and raving and childish threats'
Its a bit pathetic, i understand you want what you're owed (if you're telling the truth) but you waived your right to that when you finalized early, and going on and on and on about it will just makes less vendors want to work with you in the future
/rant
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Dude no offense but you're starting to sound like a stalkerish teenager. Theres a few basic rules when i comes to buying drugs
1) Never spend more than you can afford to lose
2) Never FE, especially for bigger orders
3) If you take a knock, suck it up, learn from it and move on
And it seems like you've failed all 3..
No offence but these long winded rambling messages wouldn't convince me, i'd be thinking 'what're the chances this guy recieved a package i sent and packed, but empty compared to him tweaking to fuck and either wanting some freebies or is just very confused, shown by his ranting and raving and childish threats'
Its a bit pathetic, i understand you want what you're owed (if you're telling the truth) but you waived your right to that when you finalized early, and going on and on and on about it will just makes less vendors want to work with you in the future
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Duly noted. As god is my witness and may he strike me down if I am lying. I would not rant this much for a little old freebie. This was a big lick for me and I think that he should be punished for his actions. My only way of getting anything out of this was to start a thread and keep it posted. Would a normal human being diligently continue and repeatedly put himself out there so often as you have stated?
I think that over 1000 views says a lot about this particular event. I do not believe that I can get any money back from the vendor. Therefore I must keep this thread alive for the sole purpose of education for those on the SR. There is a lot of FE going on still and I hope to, with this thread, convey to others the real dangers against the act of FE.
I would never wish what happened to me upon anyone. What happened to me in this transaction is, in my eyes, atrocious and completely disrespectful as the buyer/seller relationship goes.
Your damn right, I will continue to ask the vendor for a resolution because I think that I still feel this is a possibility between us. I am not trying to beat a dead horse but trying to examine the entire debacle and quite simply keep a journal throughout the thread. It may serve as a guide for some, who knows.
But what kind of vendor completely cuts ties to a large paying client in the first place? I have never said anything negative about the vendor in question. I have consistently stated facts and the truth. But for some reason or another, I get ridiculed for speaking my mind. I get the short end of the stick in a sense by others on the thread being called names like "methhead" or "junky" when all I want to do is see that this thread remain alive long enough for others to get a taste of what it is like to be fucked over if they aren't careful.
And lastly, I do not care who believes me or not. I know what happened and I swear to god on my two sons lives that I never received any product from him. Believing me is optional, I don't care what you think about me and my methods. I know what transpired. He knows what transpired.
Kai
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Your reasons are bullshit. You must be tapped in the head if you think this thread HELPS anyone? Everyone knows not to FE, UNLESS they can afford to lose the money and want to take the risk (rule 1). Sometimes unfortunate newbies to the site finalize and lose a bit of money, but its all in the game and they learn from it and move on, or this forum would be a literal shitstorm of people like you
990 of the views on this thread are probably by you, its unfortunate you got knocked (if you did) but be a man, suck it up and move on (rule #3). I would feel sorry for you losing the money, i feel bad for anyone that gets scammed, but starting this smear campaign to try and get something back off the vendors just eradicated all my sympathy and suggests an alterior motive,
You don't wanna help anyone you just want some money or drugs to make up for your loss, there's enough help out there regarding FE and you know that this contibutes nothing except in your (must be wired up wrong) brain that you might get something out of it
I'll spell it out for you nice and clear. YOU LOST YOUR RIGHT TO ANY KIND OF MONEY BACK WHEN YOU FINALIZED EARLY, THE SYSTEM IS IN PLACE FOR A REASON.
Please, save yourself some dignity and just let this thread die. Harassing the vendor and shitposting won't get you anywhere, from the bit i could be arsed to read the vendor seems to be willing to try and work things out, if i were a vendor after the incredible amount of shit you've sent and posted (seriously, how do you find the energy to do this?) Id be putting you on the vendors blacklist
Sorry for your loss, but cut your losses and grow a pair.
And again for anyone reading, CLKs 3 basic rules which anyone with half a brain should know already:
1) Never spend more than you can afford to lose
2) Never FE, especially for bigger orders
3) If you take a knock, suck it up, learn from it and move on
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Thanks for the words of encouragement. You seem to have quite a way with people. Quite frankly, you accusing me of having an ulterior motive holds no weight.
990 of the views are probably by me?????? You come across as a real prick. I don't need you dictating MY opinion based on what you think.
Yes I want my money back. Yes I would like what I ordered. And thanks for spelling it out nice and clear for me. I truly needed that.
You mean to tell me that no one could possibly learn anything from this??? You must be mad. If this is all it takes to educate about using this experience as a horror story, then let it be that.
Don't knock my antics because there are lots of people who don't know the dangers of FE. PLENTY. I see it happening all the time.
I have a different point of view. You are basically saying "FE. Get fucked over, it's all right, chalk it up to experience and move on." While the vendor get to laugh their way to the bank. Well fuck that!!!!!
Vendors should take some responsibility for their actions, they are the shop keeper and people are their customers. They should be able to report on these threads what their experiences are like and tell the whole story.
You condemn the very notion of posting negative reviews about vendors for some reason.
And last but not least, I don't need you telling me that my reason are bullshit. I am a Journalist and will continue to keep this thread alive in it's entirety for as long as I wish. It's not hurting anyone.
I am not so much doing this for me anymore because I know I will never see resolution. I am doing this for others and don't you dare think that you could put an end to this because it's happening and going to happen, dignity intact.
Such rudeness is rarely seen but I guess you couldn't help yourself. I bet to you that you never once even read the letters or seen the video of my opening the box with nothing inside from the vendor I received. I think after doing that, you would change your whole demeanor.
PAMF
Kai
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There are plenty of threads about the dangers of finalizing early. This is not one of them. If any noob clicked om this thread, and saw this pathetic drivel, you really think they would read it? Threads that help noobs are short, concise and to the point about the dangers of FE and being scammed.
Nope i'm not saying get over it, i am saying LEARN from it, and try and do something actually helpful instead of whining, which, lets be honest, is all this thread is, that and petty revenge. You're hoping to lose that vendor business and releasing your hormonal frustration. Just don't try and dress it up as a noble selfless cause of 'helping the newbies'. If anyones smart enough to go on this forum before using SR, they're smart enough to read the wiki and the 100s of USEFUL topics on the subject of keeping yourself safe and not finalizing early.
Of course i would be pissed off if i opened up an empty box, and if i had FE'd even more so. But more pissed off at myself for being so damn stupid that i made an order that i couldn't afford to lose, and if that wernt bad enough i removed and protection i would've had by finalizing early! You seem to take very little to no blame for being an idiot.
Anyway, i can't be bothered trying to make you see sense, your heads so far up your arse that i'm surprised you havn't choked to death on your own shit. As you can see, this thread is full of people commending you on how you've made a huge difference to silk road, and how you've helped them out and you're teaching those vendors a lesson! You go girl!... not.
I am not so much doing this for me anymore because I know I will never see resolution. I am doing this for others and don't you dare think that you could put an end to this because it's happening and going to happen, dignity intact.
You're doing this for yourself, to try and get free meth or bully the vendor into giving you some money. I don't know if he scammed you or not, and frankly i don't care. You are helping no-one with this, thats just a retarded lie you came up with to justify your actions. This thread is just an embarrassing read by a pathetic person, which is why i initially responded, to try and save you some dignity. Evidently i was more than a little too late, because you obviously have none left (if you even had any to begin with).
I could dissect you post further, i could spend a day annihilating your whole argument, but i don't need to, which is why there isn't an online army here screaming support for you. I wouldn't even want to, if you had gone about this in a mature and rational way, because fundamentally if you did get ripped off that's horrible, its just the way you went about it. So i'm gonna put on an episode of the simpsons, open a packet of prawn cocktail crisps (chips for all you americans) and hope you don't embarrass yourself any further.
How old are you by the way? Because you act like a child.
For gods sake, just let it go.
Peace :)
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Oh and
'Vendors should take some responsibility for their actions, they are the shop keeper and people are their customers. They should be able to report on these threads what their experiences are like and tell the whole story.'
Very true, but you seem to think customers shouldn't take any? It'd be great for him to come and post in here, but from this thread if i were him, i really would not see the point because there is no way anybody could have a reasoned and logical discussion with you. Youd just keep spouting wht may or may not be total bullshit in the hopes for some money or meth.
Its he said, she said, sorry bro, but you drew the short straw. Infact you picked it when you finalized early. I also have trouble believing a trusted vendor would go to the trouble of sending a package and the package being empty.
'You condemn the very notion of posting negative reviews about vendors for some reason. '
Don't be stupid, that's one of the main functions of this forum. I've warned plenty of people off Dr Holland, and his seller account should be being deactivated soon, i just condemn the notion of a extended smear campaign that doesn't benefit anyone except (you're hoping) you, and the imaginary people in your head that you seem to think this is the thing that stopped them FE on an order, not the hundreds of better topics, with clearer names and intentions, and not full of complete garbage. Don't try dress up your hissy fit and a brave and kind move for the community, it doesn't work.
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Oh and
'Vendors should take some responsibility for their actions, they are the shop keeper and people are their customers. They should be able to report on these threads what their experiences are like and tell the whole story.'
Very true, but you seem to think customers shouldn't take any? It'd be great for him to come and post in here, but from this thread if i were him, i really would not see the point because there is no way anybody could have a reasoned and logical discussion with you. Youd just keep spouting wht may or may not be total bullshit in the hopes for some money or meth.
Its he said, she said, sorry bro, but you drew the short straw. Infact you picked it when you finalized early. I also have trouble believing a trusted vendor would go to the trouble of sending a package and the package being empty.
'You condemn the very notion of posting negative reviews about vendors for some reason. '
Don't be stupid, that's one of the main functions of this forum. I've warned plenty of people off Dr Holland, and his seller account should be being deactivated soon, i just condemn the notion of a extended smear campaign that doesn't benefit anyone except (you're hoping) you, and the imaginary people in your head that you seem to think this is the thing that stopped them FE on an order, not the hundreds of better topics, with clearer names and intentions, and not full of complete garbage. Don't try dress up your hissy fit and a brave and kind move for the community, it doesn't work.
If this doesn't scare people into not FE then I will feel better. The way I look at it now it that I purchased everyone on SR a $1500 lesson. And that's the truth. I have already gotten PM from people telling me that since reading this they no longer FE, regardless of vendor.
I have never heard such pessimistic rhetoric and blatant one sided behavior from your posts. I am not looking for your sympathy nor do I want anyone's for that matter.
You contradict yourself on so many levels it's not even funny.
My mere intentions starting this thread was to simply document the conversations between he and I. But you cannot even grasp the simple notion that as a Journalist, documenting facts are an important basis of correspondence.
You say that you think that vendors have a responsibility but at the same time, place a barrier on how long the thread should be ran for. This doesn't make any sense. Neither do you as a whole for that matter.
You can condescend and ridicule as much as you like. May I suggest that you avoid this thread if makes your panties all in a knot.
Your one sided, one track mind seems to only be about ridicule and not what the actual point of this thread is. Is it about revenge? Fuck yes! Is it about getting what I am totally entitled to? You damn right! But after careful consideration, I've come to the conclusion that this would be the perfect opportunity for others to learn from this. So don't tell me that I don't give a flying fuck about whether or not I care about this turning into a lesson for all because it has all the makings of a lesson to be learned from. It started life as something else but halfway through I posted that we should all take a long hard look at this example.
Others have NEUTRALLY commented about the nature of the transaction, but with you, it's like you take it personally and I cannot help you with your misguided thoughts. Just as you are hard headed about me, I am more flexible, willing to grasp the notion of a loss.
This fucking thread will never cease to exist. How do you like that? Dignity? Like that even exists in an anonymous forum.
If I choose to write Latin, spelling out the atrocity that happened to me then that is my prerogative. But people will know that this happened and they will not let it be forgotten, by little old me.
You don't get to dictate the time limitation of how a vendor should be held responsible. Thanks for trying though.
Some peoples children. You know the worst part of your words, is you not seeing the full picture and failing to do so while commenting on something you half-ass understand. I don't resort to name calling and belittling. But for you it's easy because it's your only option to fill in the lines. Take your antics away and you are left with a few sentences about nothing.
Thanks for joining in the conversation, we all desperately needed your feverish attempt at trying to dog someone out so you can feel better in the end. Well the result you got is pointless and brutish at best.
Thank you though!! :-X
PS I am one of the easiest people to talk to overall. My logic based on deductive reasoning has always been spot on and I bring to the table a long Military career and everything that stands for. I would never cheat someone out of 14 grams of meth. I just don't have it in me. It's not my character and I teach my children the same principles. Some people could easily run a scam and have no qualms about the repercussions but that most certainly is not my nature. I was taught to work for what you want in life and do without if you couldn't afford it. For me to spend hours on end chasing down what I am actually owed kind of gives you a glimpse into my way of thinking, if you were so inclined to actually try and see it.
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FE'ing for drugs over the internet is just giving someone free money, do not expect anything out of the deal and do not be shocked or upset about anything that comes of it. You want your drugs to come in, and when they do that's great. When they don't? wellllllllllll you can't hold anyone but yourself at fault. vendors aren't always trustworthy nor do they have to be if you FE. They build trust so they can pull things like this off. Always look out for yourself when it comes to SR and build a relationship with vendors that does not become friendly or based on "trust". Base all your transactions on a good business model.
I give you money you give me something in return.
If I just give you money without anybody (escrow) protecting it...That's just bad business.
Don't let emotions run your money. Cool hands and mind. Think about what can happen if this happens. And personally I don't FE more than $100 but that's my maximum I'm willing to lose and be ok with.
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The idea behind your logic? i 100% agree with, but for someone who seems to have a moderate amount of intelligence by your typing abilities, the way you've gone about this is awful. Just god awful, and i would expect better. Its not even the fact you started the topic, i understand that being done in the rage and frustration on finding out you've been knocked, where you went wrong (and continue to go wrong) its to go on and on and on, repeating the same shite over and over again, so if by some incredibly unlikely chance some newb was going to stumble across this thread before ordering without being influenced by anything else before he was planning to FE, the tiny amount of information that could be useful to them is washed away by the mini novel of 'i was scammed, its not my fault at all WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? ILL SPAM HIM AND POST RESULTS'. Save the logs in a notepad file and encrypt it man, or it stays on the site even. no need to keep bumping this thread, you're flogging a dead horse and its helping noone i'm afraid. You've lost money. I'm sorry about that, but get over it.
If you spent the amount of time you have on this thread on writing some freelance articles you'd have made 10x the money back by now!
And i apologize, i have been pretty rude, but you just can't seem to listen to reason and let it go, and believe that this smear campaign accomplishes anything other than damaging a vendor that may well have been a mistake, have you considered that a customs officer might have opened it, saw the meth and took it for himself? It happens. Your inability to move on il what riles me up. Its a unregulated game we're playing, and unfortunately people get ripped off. I have been, as have many others, and we've spoke about it in various topics, even joked about it, but the fact that you seem unable to look past being knocked makes me think maybe the drug game isn't for you. Especially when you willingly handed over all insurance by FE.
I hope you never try score drugs IRL buddy, shit like this doesn't fly down there. Unfortunately its the way its gonna be until drugs are legal and regulated, SR has changed the game massively in the right direction and i commend them for that :). But for gods sake, YOU waived your insurance on it by Finalizing early. Then you may or may not have been scammed. Its just bad luck. Shit luck. But it happens. Of course the vendors in the wrong if he did scam you, you'll never hear me say anything different. And if he did he deserves that half oz of meth shoved through his eyeballs. But there are better ways to go about it than this thread. This is not the right way. At all. In fact, its probably one of the worst ways.. It helps no-one, not even yourself.
Are you starting to get where i'm coming from yet? (hope all that made sense, i'm knackered)
P.S Aye you can type coherently and you're good at getting your points across and i totally understand where you're coming from. Just just need to accept that not everyone has similar ways of thinking, and being stuck in your ways can eventually be detremental/maladaptive (malproductive? one of those fuck off big words that make me sound smart anyways;))
I reckon we'd probably get along if we met on a different thread lol
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I am trying not to sound like a broken record to everyone on this forum but I cannot help but to have epiphanies and insight into the transaction between happyman and myself. Below is a transcript written by me moments ago on his "discussion" link on his page. Well first I am going to copy and paste what he said about me and then I am going to copy and paste my response.
He is telling everyone that the reason why he has ceased all communication with me is because I am rude. As if.....
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happyman:"he aint letting this go because his intentions was to scam me for my drugs and get his money back, but it didnt exactly play to his tune!!
mate the guy is full of complete rubbish!!!!, he is so rude i don't even want to chat to him anymore after his rude messages, ive been here a long time and plan to stay here til the end, trying to scam my own customers is probable the most stupid thing to do, i sent him the goods in the box, he receives it and says its not in there, im not STUPID believe me!!, he must think im stupid, he obviously cant let this situation go away because he planned to try and do this to me with the intentions of getting his money back and my drugs for FREE, like i said i aint born yesterday and i aint definitely not gonna fall his rubbish.
ive done over 300+ transactions and only this one PERSON complaining!!, don't that speak for itself!!??
we are one big family on SR and we should all be sticking together in making this place better and better AND without the PEOPLE who scam on here!
since then i will only now post large amounts via special signed recorded delivery, hopefully that will then stop these scammers from trying it on with"
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happyman: "you must always read the terms and conditions before ordering!!
Number 5 of my terms & conditions state:
5. there are no refunds on any item classed as a high risk item such as coke, meth, crack cocaine or opiate related drugs. we always send and have items like weed hash and benzo's are classed low risk meaning there is a reship or 50% refund option to those with good stats. but Ive not lost a product yet so please be honest and only claim when you need to, all claims are looked in to and usernames are checked against a central database and can only be accessed by vendors and if i find your username on the blacklist you will loose the right of any refund, and the support team will fully back us in the resolution center if your known for this type of false claiming.
optikai0110 IS ON THE VENDORS BLACKLIST!!!"
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My response: "And you fucking took advantage of me being on the blacklist. You decided to work with me regardless of me being on it.
You never once considered that your "little helper", the one who was doing all of the shipping might have had something to do with my missing drugs.
You offered me the possibility of a resolution, if you can recall.
I NEVER RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM YOU!!!!
Regardless of your so called immaculate stats, you made a very large mistake with my order. Someone decided to keep the drugs for themselves and it wasn't me. I have much better things to do than to pester you and maintain a thread about our transaction.
I never wanted free drugs from you. I never wanted for this to happen. I never cheated you or tried cheating you. I have been entirely honest the whole time with you and you give me the cold shoulder after walking away with $1500!!!!!!
As rare as this sounds, right hand on the bible, I only received a box filled with broken iPhone parts. You saw the video.
And yet, after all that I have written to you, all of these words to convey the message of what kind of person I am like, you still think I am trying to scam you???!!!!
I have put my vendor reputation at stake, my personal account at stake, all for what? No reason at all? Or just to try and get so called "free drugs" off of you??? I don't think so.
I know for a fact that it had to be someone in your organization because the box was sealed tight and was not opened by customs or any officers of any kind.
I know it was the person doing the packing and you have yet to question him about this? You already posted on your profile page about how incompetent he was and how you had to remove his delegation.
I am not blaming you personally but I am blaming someone in your organization which you are open to tell others about but I had to piece together on my own accord.
Over 1050 views and counting on the thread between us.
All of my messages below are true and remain accurate to this very day.
I have literally begged you to please talk to me. Some kind of dialogue that would eventually bring this to a close.
Yet you blame me!!!! What kind of world are we living in that I get treated this way as a $1500 paying customer to you. You received my money and yet you still won't speak to me like I did something wrong to you.
I am telling you that the drugs were never delivered to this address. That was your responsibility to make sure that they did. You decided to work with me regardless of me being on a blacklist. SO WHAT IF I AM ON A BLACKLIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER!!!!!!!!
You cannot decide after I sent you the money to just forget about me or for you to just tell me "should have read the terms and conditions"
This is fucking bullshit and I know you have your suspicions as to what really happened on your end.
You never once opened a firm dialogue with me about your shipping details.
I know everyone is tired of listening to me rattle on and on like a broken record but what they haven't learned yet is how much this hurt me financially. I would have rather gotten half my goods than nothing at all. But all I am left with is a vendor who refuses to speak to me and a loss of $1500 which I am having a really hard time accepting. They should realize that this hurt and hurt badly all due to your "terms and conditions".
And for you to think that SR would side with you because I am on a fucking silly stupid as fuck blacklist is being pretentious and ostentatious. You think that just because I am placed on a blacklist my money is of a different color!!!!!
I paid you for something. Something that was not delivered. It is the basis of the SR and the basis of all trade on Earth.
It is so easy to dismiss me because I am on a blacklist but you were more than willing to talk to me before you received my money. Why is that?
Why won't you have a conversation with me now? I will tell you why. Because you made a mistake by letting someone else do your packaging for you. Seriously, I am taking this to heart and there is nothing that is going to ever stop me from asking you for what is rightfully mine.
You owe me $1500. Case and point."
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Another message added 20 minutes later:
"And if anyone wants to read my "RUDE" messages to you, can follow the thread like everyone else.
As if I was being rude to you. I have been trying to get you to speak to me for close to two weeks now.
Nothing I said to you was rude!!! Please show me where I was being rude to you?
I was more angry and hurt than anything else, if I came across that way and you took it wrong that aint my fault either.
For some reason or another, you have a tendency to blame me for everything when I did nothing wrong.
I never wanted anything from you except what I paid you for. Nothing more, nothing less."
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HI IM HAPPYMAN AND IM HAPPIER AS EVER!!
MOST OF THE THREADS HERE ARE ALL FROM FROM HIM!! LOL LOL LOL LOL
WHEN A CUSTOMER MESSAGES ME WITH A PROBLEM AND SPEAKS TO ME WITH TOTAL RESPECT I WANT TO HELP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO COME TO A RESOLUTION.
WHEN A CUSTOMER STARTS MESSAGING ME CALLING ME A SCAMMER AND THREATENING THEN I AINT DOING FUCK ALL FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR OTHERS AND I HAVE NO TIME FOR YOU.
ID RATHER SPEND MY TIME ON MY REAL CUSTOMERS WHO HAVE RESPECT FOR ME AND THEMSELVES
IVE NEVER SCAMMED ANYONE HERE AND IF I DID THEY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE COME ON THIS THREAD AND JOINED FORCES WITH MR METH HEAD!!
ALSO WHAT KIND OF MAN ARE YOU USING YOUR WIFES MONEY!!!, STOP PRACTICING YOUR JOURNAL SKILLS HERE AND GO GET A JOB WHERE YOU CAN PAY FOR YOUR DRUGS YOURSELF RATHER THAN RISKING THE MRS MONEY IN THE HOPE OF ROBBING ME AND GETTING A REFUND, YOUR LOWER THAN I ACTUALLY THOUGHT
this guy threatened to open multiple accounts just to give me a bad name and even sent me his mobile number to call him which is totally against SR rules
he aint letting this go because his intentions was to scam me for my drugs and get his money back, but it didnt exactly play to his tune!!
YOU GUYS!!! the guy is full of complete SHIT!!!!, he is so rude i don't even want to chat to him anymore after his rude messages, ive been here a long time and plan to stay here til the end, trying to scam my own customers is probable the most stupid thing to do, i sent him the goods in the box, he receives it and says its not in there, im not STUPID believe me!!, he must think im stupid, he obviously cant let this situation go away because he planned to try and do this to me with the intentions of getting his money back and my drugs for FREE, like i said i aint born yesterday and i aint definitely not gonna fall his rubbish.
ive done over 300+ transactions with over 129 fans and only this one PERSON complaining!!, don't that speak for itself!!??
we are one big family on SR and we should all be sticking together in making this place better and better AND without the PEOPLE who scam on here!
since then i will only now post large amounts VIA WELL KNOWN COURIER COMPANY'S, hopefully that will then stop these scammers from trying it on with us
ALSO MY REGULARS LOVE ME AND WILL ALWAYS BE STICKING BY ME, THIS SMEAR CAMPAIGN OF YOURS AINT MAKING NO DIFFERENCE TO ME TO BE HONEST.MY ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN YOUR WORDS!,
MY REGULARS TELL ME ABOUT THE SHIT YOU KEEP GOING ON ABOUT ON THIS THREAD OF YOURS INFACT THEY ALL THINK YOUR REALLY FULL OF SHIT WHICH IS WHAT I KNOW AND BELIEVE ALSO, LOL
300 TRANSACTIONS AND GOING UP AND UP EVERYDAY!!
AND FOR ANYONE WHO DOES THINK I SCAMMED MR CRYSTAL METH HEAD THEN YOUR JUST AS DUMB AS HIM
AND YOU NEED SOME KIND OF MENTAL TREATMENT ALSO
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YOUR ACTUALLY SO SICK YOU DISGUST ME YOU EVEN WENT TO THE LEVEL OF SWEARING ON YOUR CHILDRENS LIFES!!, WHAT A FUCK FACE YOU ARE!! SERIOUSLY!!
I BET HIS REPLY WILL BE DAYS LONG!! LOL
SOMEONE HAS GOT TIME ON HIS HANDS! LOL