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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: SpiceTrader on May 31, 2012, 01:47 am

Title: Heroin first time: Do's and Donts..
Post by: SpiceTrader on May 31, 2012, 01:47 am
Anythoughts?

 Def keen to give it a shot....
Title: Re: Heroin first time: Do's and Donts..
Post by: blackend646 on May 31, 2012, 01:53 am
I'm just wondering if it is possible to use this stuff once and never touch it again, it sounds like an experience
Title: Re: Heroin first time: Do's and Donts..
Post by: SpiceTrader on May 31, 2012, 02:07 am
I'm just wondering if it is possible to use this stuff once and never touch it again, it sounds like an experience

Yeah im in the same boat.

Like if i order a gram of decent gear on SR and get through it reasonably quickly, the chances are im going to def be wanting MORE right?

Take into consideration that i have given up a  IV methamphetamine habit reasonably easily in the past..
Title: Re: Heroin first time: Do's and Donts..
Post by: SpiceTrader on May 31, 2012, 02:16 am
So i should be sweet then... Thanks for the info^   ;)
Title: Re: Heroin first time: Do's and Donts..
Post by: blackend646 on May 31, 2012, 02:26 am
Lol
Title: Re: Heroin first time: Do's and Donts..
Post by: SpiceTrader on May 31, 2012, 02:32 am
But when thats the sort of stigma your up against , its becomes very hard to get unjaded information...

Just waiting for the : Dont do heroin reply......


Title: Re: Heroin first time: Do's and Donts..
Post by: SpiceTrader on May 31, 2012, 02:46 am
Abstinence is the safer but much less fun option....

Im torn, kinda one of those things that i would like to prove to myself, "yeah i used it for a month, got bored , COD seemed more interesting, gave it up"

Think this is pretty unlikely though
Title: Re: Heroin first time: Do's and Donts..
Post by: smokeweed420 on May 31, 2012, 02:58 am
dont order a full gram of high quality dope because if you do that and dont have a tolerance you wont be able to blow through it in a day and i have the feeling you will get addicted, but i think you would be fine to get maybe .25g or so.
Title: Re: Heroin first time: Do's and Donts..
Post by: Ben on May 31, 2012, 03:01 am
I'd advise extreme caution. A single dose of 10 mg morphine can take you from agony to bliss after surgery. Heroin is probably stronger when i comes to it, and more addictive as well. 

If you have the option, keep opiates as the last resort   - there is no stronger medicine afterwards if you need it!
Title: Re: Heroin first time: Do's and Donts..
Post by: SpiceTrader on May 31, 2012, 03:14 am
Yeah i thought a g would be well over doing it.

Got some oxys in the mail, see how i handle them, make a decsion about H afterwards, if really really enjoy oxys, i wont be ordering any H thats for sure...
Title: Re: Heroin first time: Do's and Donts..
Post by: fsgr on May 31, 2012, 03:44 am
Just read the H threads and see all the shit these guys go threw on daily basis to get by. I am too lazt to be a smackhead.

Myself,  H worries me because I cant even help myself with weed, I go in to piggy mode and wont stop smoking every chance I get until all of it is gone. On the other hand I have done shit loads of other hard drugs and walked away from chronic long term use with ease.
Title: Re: Heroin first time: Do's and Donts..
Post by: deviant on June 01, 2012, 03:21 am
Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suit on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourselves. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
Title: Re: Heroin first time: Do's and Donts..
Post by: Limetless on June 01, 2012, 03:25 am
If you want a real answer to this question then Search for the thread "If you are thinking of trying Heroin...." by a member called Raoul Duke. He bought a gram to give it a go and he basically had a narrow escape.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Heroin first time: Do's and Donts..
Post by: tordemon on June 01, 2012, 08:47 pm
Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suit on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourselves. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?

Best quote ever. I loved that movie so much.

But, I've been down the heroin road as well. It was pretty alright. Never IV'd so I can't speak for that, but I've eaten, snorted, and smoked. It's been a month since I last had any, but I've ordered some more. I don't really have problems with addiction, personally, and don't take it more often than I'm comfortable with, but my only complaint is that I'm usually an asshole the day after I take it. I always have to make sure I don't have anything important planned the next day before I take it. =P
Title: Re: Heroin first time: Do's and Donts..
Post by: Banjo on June 01, 2012, 09:26 pm
Since no one's actually answered your questions:

Do's:
-Use a wheel filter. Even if it looks really clear, there are likely things in there that you don't want in your bloodstream.
-Get a good milligram scale so that you can accurately measure how much you're taking
-Start off very small. Start with 5mg, and work up from there. Heroin is (give or take) twice as potent as morphine. A standard medical dose of IV morphine for pain management is 10mg. If you've never done opiates (vicodins don't really count, in my book) then maybe even start off with 2mg, although that's probably pretty conservative. But better conservative than dead.
-Use a new, clean needle each time
-Properly prep your injection site. Wash your hands with soap and water, and clean the injection site with alcohol
-Follow the 8/72 rule: use for no more than 8 hours at a time, and stay off completely for a minimum of 72 hours afterward

Dont's:
-Order a whole gram for your first time. Since your tolerance is likely low, a gram will last a long time, and unless you have amazing self-control, you'll be more likely to use longer/more than you should.
-Assume all H you order is the same strength. Test each and every batch you get with a small amount so that you can gauge how strong it is before you take the amount you usually do to get where you want.
-Combine with other depressants (alcohol, benzos, etc...) until you're used to how it effects your body alone. Better not to combine at all, but definitely not till you're comfortable with what it does to your body.

Be prepared for:
-Never wanting to do any opiate any route but IV. It feels so much better, you'll never want to go back
-Severe nausea the first few times. If this happens, lie on your back and take slow, deep breaths. This should help. Also try eating some ginger, or making some ginger tea (from fresh root). It helps me out quite a bit.
-An urge to do IV opiates that never really goes away. Even if you're not addicted, or even close, there's always that small, nagging feeling that tells you it would be so nice if you could IV some opiates.