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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Nunya on July 08, 2012, 09:31 pm
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Sorry if I have missed this thread somewhere - can someone give recommendations for a good vape for bud? I guess things that would be important to me include being discreet, small, and minimizing odors if at all possible. I saw someone mention the Magic Flight Launch Box - good choice? Pro's, Con's, Others?
Thanks! 8)
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I own a Magic Flight Launch Box - you get a great heady high from vaping with this. :D
You don't need to use much in the tray, which might save some people on bud. It runs on batteries and comes with 2 AAs to start you off, though I ended up buying more powerful batteries (IMEDION 2400 mAh) due to the original ones losing their capacity after a while. :/
The dimensions of the box are 7.5cm(L)x4cm(W)x2.3cm(D).
As for odour control, the mflb is pretty damn good but it does give off a burnt popcorn-like smell if you hold the battery in for too long, or let any vapour escape... Nothing an open window or some air freshener can't fix.
Actually using it is a bit of a learning curve for some - you have to control the temperature with your tokes (ideally speaking, you want to use it like you're sipping out of a straw). There's a nice tutorial on vaporpedia.com.
For vaporiser size, I guess the Iolite is the closest matching. There's also the VaporGenie which is a lot cheaper, and functions as a pipe too.
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The flight box is pretty much the king as far as portable vapes go. Plus, it has a lifetime warranty.
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Sorry if I have missed this thread somewhere - can someone give recommendations for a good vape for bud? I guess things that would be important to me include being discreet, small, and minimizing odors if at all
I'm interested in hearing about small portables as well, but am a huge fan of the Volcano when it comes to a desktop model. http://www.storz-bickel.com
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I have the newest Vapir one and love it. Come with either a tube for direct smoking as well as 5 bags you can fill and sit with. The only draw back I have with it is that the fan is super loud.
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Vapir, iolite.
Magic Flight shit box is more of a novelty then anything else :P. I personally use a nameless whip vape, since I'm not needing the portable aspect of that shit was only like 50bucks works fine for me
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Magic Flight Launch Box is dope. I can puff anywhere with that thing.
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Look up Volcano's new portable vape I have heard good things about it! But as for me I will never vape unless it's with my volcano digit!
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I actually just got the Dragon Lite mini vape and it is fucking awesome. It's a rip off of the MFLB but works exactly the same and its only $30 with a lifetime warranty. (+ $20 for batteries/charger)
So far I've used this thing at work, in a movie theatre and on the bus and it produces no smell at all. So if you can't afford the MFLB I highly recommend this, it will be the best $30 you have ever spent.
I've also tried the original MFLB, the Iolite and the Vapir n02 and the only ones worth considering are the MFLB and the Dragon Lite.
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The Herbalaire vaporizer is highly recommended. If you like the Volcano's bag system, the herbalaire can also blow up a bag with vapor, or you can use the included whip.
For around $200, this is a more economical Volcano. $300 is the difference between an herbalaire and a volcano. For that price you could have bought an herbalaire AND an ounce of weed to vaporize in your new vaporizer!
http://www.herbalaire.com/tri.htm
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Subbing to this thread as I'm on the market for a new vaporizer myself. I had a generic one from China with a glass whip which I paid about 100 bucks for, and it worked brilliant, it was my fault for breaking it. I got so stoned one night I forgot to turn it off so the electronics inside eventually fried after hours of it being on, it's a good thing it didn't catch fire while I was out drinking. Anyone here have any recommendations for a vaporizer in the 100 - 200 dollar range? I don't want to spend a thousand bucks on a Volcano, I'd hate myself if I wound up breaking that. I might just get another Chinese one off ebay as mine was great before I foolishly broke it from irresponsible use.
Oh yeah and +1 to everyone here for your recommendations! Meatwad that Herbalaire seems like a great choice, I might buy one, also your username and avatar are legendary.
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For a portable model don't choose anything else.
Am waiting for my Arizer Solo which is far superior to the iolite models.
I have tried the Arizer and was convinced after the first puff.
The glass pipe makes a very tasty smoke whereas the iolite has a plastic taste.
A friend has tested ore or less all vaporizers currently on the market and sticks with it too.
Check the video here:
**CLEARNET**
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2xoRZCsYME
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Like connoisseur, I bought the Arizer Solo. It seems ok I guess but I still think that I get higher off the same amount of weed in a regular smokable blunt. I dunno maybe I'm doing it wrong.
Anyone have any tips on the best way to use a vaporizer? Maybe I'll start a thread in the Drug Safety forum.
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Subbing to this thread as I'm on the market for a new vaporizer myself. I had a generic one from China with a glass whip which I paid about 100 bucks for, and it worked brilliant, it was my fault for breaking it. I got so stoned one night I forgot to turn it off so the electronics inside eventually fried after hours of it being on, it's a good thing it didn't catch fire while I was out drinking. Anyone here have any recommendations for a vaporizer in the 100 - 200 dollar range? I don't want to spend a thousand bucks on a Volcano, I'd hate myself if I wound up breaking that. I might just get another Chinese one off ebay as mine was great before I foolishly broke it from irresponsible use.
Oh yeah and +1 to everyone here for your recommendations! Meatwad that Herbalaire seems like a great choice, I might buy one, also your username and avatar are legendary.
The herbalaire just happens to have a remedy for your forgetfulness as well. It has an automatic shutoff feature that will automatically turn the vape off after 30 minutes. I have forgotten to turn it off many times before.
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Subbing to this thread as I'm on the market for a new vaporizer myself. I had a generic one from China with a glass whip which I paid about 100 bucks for, and it worked brilliant, it was my fault for breaking it. I got so stoned one night I forgot to turn it off so the electronics inside eventually fried after hours of it being on, it's a good thing it didn't catch fire while I was out drinking. Anyone here have any recommendations for a vaporizer in the 100 - 200 dollar range? I don't want to spend a thousand bucks on a Volcano, I'd hate myself if I wound up breaking that. I might just get another Chinese one off ebay as mine was great before I foolishly broke it from irresponsible use.
Oh yeah and +1 to everyone here for your recommendations! Meatwad that Herbalaire seems like a great choice, I might buy one, also your username and avatar are legendary.
The herbalaire just happens to have a remedy for your forgetfulness as well. It has an automatic shutoff feature that will automatically turn the vape off after 30 minutes. I have forgotten to turn it off many times before.
Haha wow dude that's amazing! For a forgetful stoner like me that's perfect. I am so ordering that, that feature just solidified my purchase.
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^^^ lol I need that on my vape!
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Cant go wrong with a volcano.
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^^^ lol I need that on my vape!
I'm sure you could just get one of those timer things you can plug into your wall that growers use for light photoperiod. Since you're not running much power through it you could probably do aight with a cheap one.
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I wish I had one of those e cig vape pen things for oil. those things look bad ass. I dont understand how to get your oil in the capsules though.
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i got the arizer extreme q
works fine, got a bag mode and a hookah mode.
got digital display and remotecontrol
clearnet***
http://arizer.com/store/en/extreme-heater/21-aroma-arizer-extreme-q-heater.html
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Had the Volcano for about ~8 years, some month ago I get the Arizer Solo. I think both a great devices, made me stop smoking tobacco.
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I wish I had one of those e cig vape pen things for oil. those things look bad ass. I dont understand how to get your oil in the capsules though.
^this
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Haha wow dude that's amazing! For a forgetful stoner like me that's perfect. I am so ordering that, that feature just solidified my purchase.
Come back and tell us how you like it after you receive it. I think you will find it is very much like a Volcano but without the Valve system for the vapor bags. OH! One more thing, with the Herbalaire YOU DON'T HAVE TO GRIND YOUR BUD!!! You can just pop in a good sized nug (.3 to .8) and turn it on. You can grind the bud if you want but it will clog up the screen on the vape really quickly.
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The Herbalaire vaporizer is highly recommended. If you like the Volcano's bag system, the herbalaire can also blow up a bag with vapor, or you can use the included whip.
For around $200, this is a more economical Volcano. $300 is the difference between an herbalaire and a volcano. For that price you could have bought an herbalaire AND an ounce of weed to vaporize in your new vaporizer!
http://www.herbalaire.com/tri.htm
I don't really recommend the Herbalaire. I think if your gonna spend $300 you might as well spend an extra $200 for the volcano.
I have had the Herbalaire for about a year and have barely used it at all. It works alright but doesn't produce anywhere near as much vapor as the Volcano.
My brother also compared my Herbalaire to his friends Extreme Q and it also doesn't produce as much vapor as the Q.
So if you want portable get the MFLB otherwise just get the Volcano if you can.
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$300????? I dont know where you are looking... but when I looked on ebay there were a ton of herbalaires for sale at right around $150. YOU CANNOT FIND A BETTER VAPE that does all the things that the herbalaire does for $150. OR you can pay over triple what a herbalaire costs and get a Volcano.... its totally up to you.
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Vape xhale cloud is the best on the market now. Roughly same price as the volcano, but much better. $450-600 depending on the attachments you get.
For mid-price range, the PLENTY vape is excellent @ $315 from ezvapes with their standard coupon.
For low level, the Extreme-Q is great for the price. I got it for $164 from ezvapes or vapeworld. I don't remeber, but they had a "price match" guarantee, so I just found it on some sketchy site, and they matched it with great shipping and legitimacy.
I don't vape on the go, so I have nothing to say about portables. IMO, they never hit as hard as I'd like and for the money you're better off getting a plug-in one. Also, spend the money and don't get anything less than what I've recommended.. you won't regret it.
Also, I have nothing but good things to say for both vapeworld and ezvapes. They both have the best customer service, quick stealth shipping (if that even matters), and are just all around easy to deal with. The only portable vape I ever got I ordered off of vapeworld and they fucked up and sent me TWO. My lucky fucking day!
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I guess I am a little biased. I looked up the extreme-q and it is going for right around $150 on ebay as well. It does have some very good features that the herbalaire does not such as a remote and an LCD display. Either vape is a good buy IMO.
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I guess I am a little biased. I looked up the extreme-q and it is going for right around $150 on ebay as well. It does have some very good features that the herbalaire does not such as a remote and an LCD display. Either vape is a good buy IMO.
Yep, they both look about the same. I've never used the herbalaire, so I can't speak for it but the extreme does have more features and has a very sturdy & lasting build for a vape in that price-range. Both look good.
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You ever see the Silver Surfer Vaporizer??? Can get them for around 190-220 new...
Just bought mine today, I'll be testing it out next week, so I'll let you know if its good or what.
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You ever see the Silver Surfer Vaporizer??? Can get them for around 190-220 new...
Just bought mine today, I'll be testing it out next week, so I'll let you know if its good or what.
IMO, it's good but not worth the $200. It lacks the bag feature, but its one of the better whip only vapes in that price range. I never owned one but used a friends more than a few times. Let us know how you think it hits.
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$300????? I dont know where you are looking... but when I looked on ebay there were a ton of herbalaires for sale at right around $150. YOU CANNOT FIND A BETTER VAPE that does all the things that the herbalaire does for $150. OR you can pay over triple what a herbalaire costs and get a Volcano.... its totally up to you.
Dam I think my headshop totally ripped me off lol. Although it was 3 years ago so prices probably went down.
I actually only bought the Herbalaire because they were sold out of the Extreme Q, so I would say go with the Extreme Q over the Herbalaire for a cheap, good, non-portable vape.
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Really good thread, lot of recommendations to check out. I've got a whip style vaporwarez & have been using it for years but I'm interested in changing up soon. Just wondering, are any of these vapes capable of vaping hash? Particularly interested if any of the portable versions can handle this?
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Like connoisseur, I bought the Arizer Solo. It seems ok I guess but I still think that I get higher off the same amount of weed in a regular smokable blunt. I dunno maybe I'm doing it wrong.
Anyone have any tips on the best way to use a vaporizer? Maybe I'll start a thread in the Drug Safety forum.
After a few cycles, the draw gets easier. Having a screen in the glass piece significantly improves results. Vapor starts at level 3, increase temp every other hit. I've put hash, weed, even oils through mine - all worked great. Favorite has been caviar, it vaped like weed that never cached. I vouch for the extreme-q, as well. Arizer knows their business.
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Dam I think my headshop totally ripped me off lol. Although it was 3 years ago so prices probably went down.
I actually only bought the Herbalaire because they were sold out of the Extreme Q, so I would say go with the Extreme Q over the Herbalaire for a cheap, good, non-portable vape.
Never buy a vaporizer from a headshop. They always mark it up by like 50 or 100%, it's absurd. Get it online, every time.
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DA BUDDHA I've had one for about 3 years now the only problem ive ever had with it is their bowls seem to be fragile for how thick they are. but then again i was pretty rough on them lol. i think it was somewhere around 180 back then not sure on the current pricing though. also there is now some type of glycerin cooler wand thats come out for it, i havent bought it yet but it sounds like an awesome idea! ;D
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You ever see the Silver Surfer Vaporizer??? Can get them for around 190-220 new...
Just bought mine today, I'll be testing it out next week, so I'll let you know if its good or what.
IMO, it's good but not worth the $200. It lacks the bag feature, but its one of the better whip only vapes in that price range. I never owned one but used a friends more than a few times. Let us know how you think it hits.
Yeah but to me it LOOKS like its got everythign I need....but end of next week I'll post up my review..
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Really good thread, lot of recommendations to check out. I've got a whip style vaporwarez & have been using it for years but I'm interested in changing up soon. Just wondering, are any of these vapes capable of vaping hash? Particularly interested if any of the portable versions can handle this?
I just vaped some oil in my cheap portable Dragon Lite vape so I'm sure hash would work fine.
Just make sure to have a layer of weed with the hash grinded up very fine on top.
I'm actually surprised how well vaping oil worked in this thing, only 2 drops and 3 hits later and I'm really fucking high which pretty much solves the short battery life for me.
I highly recommend the Dragon Lite vape for anyone who is new to vaping and on a tight budget, you can't go wrong.
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Anyone have any recommendations on a portable vaporizer specifically for oil? There is a listing for a Persei vape on the Road, but it is around 100 dollars.
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I'm still trying to figure out how to get maximum results from "Viva la Vape" mercenary pen vaporizer. If anyone has one , please let me know!
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Timely thread. Shopping for a vape to replace my cheap Chinese box whip.
Must have read and watched a couple of hundred reviews today, spending a lot of time particularly trying to compare the Volcano against the Xhale Cloud. The Xhale is pretty cool, but frankly I want the freedom of bags. It's the cano for oldtoby. Probably get the classic although more precise temp control would be handy for spice.
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Timely thread. Shopping for a vape to replace my cheap Chinese box whip.
Must have read and watched a couple of hundred reviews today, spending a lot of time particularly trying to compare the Volcano against the Xhale Cloud. The Xhale is pretty cool, but frankly I want the freedom of bags. It's the cano for oldtoby. Probably get the classic although more precise temp control would be handy for spice.
I hear you. I like the xhale because of the excellent control it gives you. It reminds me of the control you'd get with a head wand or gun. The quality is also better than the volcano. It delivers the highest quality vapor at a thickness that I thought was impossible with a vaporizer. It's also the first that's neither whip nor bag. It's literally a vapor-bong. While I love the volcano and would still haven't if it wasn't so branded and recognizable (a friend offered almost what I paid for it used). IMO, the volcano's price really should have dropped. It's an old product with new competitors. Hell, they even released the PLENTY themselves, which is great for thickness too.
I do love the ease of a bag, but personally if smoking (vaping) gets too easy, I'll do it too damn much. ;D That said, it's still no challenge to use the xhale.
Best of luck in your decision, you'll enjoy yourself either way. Vapes are something that I can always recommend spluring on. It's always worth it.
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I definitely like the monster hits you can obviously get off the xhale, or the plenty.
But here's my routine with the cheap box. Having realized at some early point that it's building no vapour when not in use, I said to hell with pacing myself, and I started hitting the vape in sets of 5 (count to 10 or 15 or 20, hold, exhale, next hit no fresh air). Then sets of 10. Then 20. Now 25. That's 25 deep hits, no fresh air.
I keep track because otherwise I lose track. So I know what to expect at 50 hits. At 100. At 150. At 200. (I was shroom-deprived for a long while, so I made do on mega-doses of mj, eventually blasting off and even reaching states of depersonalization at 250+...)
And I am goddamned tired of huddling over that fucking piece of machinery. :)
Granted, I expect to need nowhere near this many hits with an xhale. And moisturizing the vapour would be a godsend (can you imagine how raw my throat is after 150 deep hits?). But after all that, I wanna sit on my couch and watch milkdrop. I want to pick up the guitar. I want to play vids. I want bags!
I'm also slightly concerned with my, er, penchant for overdoing things, that I won't be taking proper care with the xhale equipment, getting water where it shouldn't be or maybe even breaking glass. I like that the volcano is safe in basically any state (I do plan to use it for spice) and requires basically no maintenance. The xhale is a gorgeous piece of equipment, though, no question.
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I definitely like the monster hits you can obviously get off the xhale, or the plenty.
But here's my routine with the cheap box. Having realized at some early point that it's building no vapour when not in use, I said to hell with pacing myself, and I started hitting the vape in sets of 5 (count to 10 or 15 or 20, hold, exhale, next hit no fresh air). Then sets of 10. Then 20. Now 25. That's 25 deep hits, no fresh air.
I keep track because otherwise I lose track. So I know what to expect at 50 hits. At 100. At 150. At 200. (I was shroom-deprived for a long while, so I made do on mega-doses of mj, eventually blasting off and even reaching states of depersonalization at 250+...)
And I am goddamned tired of huddling over that fucking piece of machinery. :)
Granted, I expect to need nowhere near this many hits with an xhale. And moisturizing the vapour would be a godsend (can you imagine how raw my throat is after 150 deep hits?). But after all that, I wanna sit on my couch and watch milkdrop. I want to pick up the guitar. I want to play vids. I want bags!
I'm also slightly concerned with my, er, penchant for overdoing things, that I won't be taking proper care with the xhale equipment, getting water where it shouldn't be or maybe even breaking glass. I like that the volcano is safe in basically any state (I do plan to use it for spice) and requires basically no maintenance. The xhale is a gorgeous piece of equipment, though, no question.
Based on what you say, you'd like the cano. :)
I still have the extreme for when / if I'm lazing around. Bags are great :D Granted it's not as good as the volcano, but it and my others make for a good combo.
And on the dry throat, I totally hear you. When I got into the vapor game I got the cheap Vapir ONE 5.0 for $150 and that motherfucker tore your throat up. It's vapor quality was pretty damn poor too. Eventually it caught fire inside the chamber while i was on a BIG dose of acid... that was fun. It went in the trash shortly after.
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And on the dry throat, I totally hear you. When I got into the vapor game I got the cheap Vapir ONE 5.0 for $150 and that motherfucker tore your throat up. It's vapor quality was pretty damn poor too. Eventually it caught fire inside the chamber while i was on a BIG dose of acid... that was fun. It went in the trash shortly after.
The Vapirs are fucking rubbish, had one of the first ~8 years ago. Plastic like taste, the whole concept is stupid and makes no sense, impossible to clean and mine broke after a few weeks too. Wonder why this company still exists, if their quality today seems too be as shitty as 8 years ago.
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Done a bit of research, based on the opinions here, and I'm very keen on Arizer Extreme Q or Herbalaire. Anyone whose used both of these care to offer any observations or comparisons?
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So, ah, wow. Volcano vapour is NOT to be underestimated. I was a little nonplussed at the instruction booklet that suggested I should be looking for a certain density of vapour in the bag before disengaging, but sure enough, it's thick. Doesn't really show in the videos. I've had to curtail my usual enthusiasm, as I can quite easily pass the point of bliss and just get knocked on my ass instead.
Can't wait to acquire some more freebase DMT to give this a whirl.
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Portable vape = PAX vaporizor the best out right now
for home use vape heavy ones - volocane,plenty those are legit ones.
thanks
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Volcano is great (I own one), but I would trade mine any fucking day of the week for one of these:
VapeXhale Cloud - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6yveNEKYTk
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Looking forward to the DaVinci Ascent being released so some reviews can start coming in. It looks pretty fucking sweet though.
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Been using a Volcano since 2005. Cost a fortune but best there is.