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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: maxd on July 08, 2013, 12:43 am

Title: so confused
Post by: maxd on July 08, 2013, 12:43 am
okay so i thought i had this down but i was definately wrong. how the eff do i get coins without giving up who i am? i realize buying coins is not illegal so i dont mind buying them with my info. but where do they get switched to anonymous? also when the eff should i use real/ fake info? also when to use tor/ when to not use it. also when to use throwaway emails and when not to. ive read so many threads that contradict other ones ive read its hard to keep up. some real in depth, easy to follow info would be so much appreciated.

also i tried getting an instawallet but apparently they are down? anyone know anything about this? ugh. someone help!!!

thanks a ton.
Title: Re: so confused
Post by: 88fxstc on July 08, 2013, 12:46 am
localbitcoins.com,
You can't be too careful, always use Tor, aliases and throw away emails....why not?????
Title: Re: so confused
Post by: Sasscrotch on July 08, 2013, 12:59 am
localbitcoins.com,
You can't be too careful, always use Tor, aliases and throw away emails....why not?????

just a spammin ta fiddy  :'(

But yeah, localbitcoins is great. 

Use tormail.org

Always use tor when you can but never you're not supposed to (?)

Never say the name MacBeth in the theatre, but aliases are cool.
Title: Re: so confused
Post by: CushMTN on July 08, 2013, 01:05 am
BlueSkyTraders.... http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/9f0dd63e28 | http://ok2yri46aaptiu2d.onion/index.htm

All you need is a Bank of America, and you can have BTCs deposited in your account in an hour or less.
I've been using SR for over a Year now, and they've provided about 99.8% of my BTCs. These guys are very courteous and professional.
Title: Re: so confused
Post by: Jack N Hoff on July 08, 2013, 01:08 am
BlueSkyTraders.... http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/9f0dd63e28 | http://ok2yri46aaptiu2d.onion/index.htm

All you need is a Bank of America, and you can have BTCs deposited in your account in an hour or less.
I've been using SR for over a Year now, and they've provided about 99.8% of my BTCs. These guys are very courteous and professional.

Bst is great but they haven't been accepting deposits for a week now.
Title: Re: so confused
Post by: meta on July 08, 2013, 01:12 am
localbitcoins.com is definitely the first site I'd use for "anonymous" bitcoin purchasing/selling, but anonymity is overrated.

Just be smart about buying coins:

If you're a buyer of small quantities for personal/personal+friends use (which the majority on here are I assume), purchase coins only when you're going to be spending the coins relatively soon afterwards. Use a laundry service (ex. BitcoinFog) if you're really paranoid or your gov has you under surveillance (heh, as if you'd know!).

Also, SR mixes your coins whenever you deposit into your account, so keep that in mind.
Title: Re: so confused
Post by: Jack N Hoff on July 08, 2013, 01:17 am
Also, SR mixes your coins whenever you deposit into your account, so keep that in mind.

SR mixes them so it is suspiciously obvious.  They reuse the same wallet addresses A LOT.  Half a million coins through one wallet address. :o

The SR tumbler is pretty shitty.  Remember the Casey Jones case?  Over a half a million coins went through one wallet address if I remember correctly.  That isn't very good tumbling in my opinion...  It should be using more new wallet addresses.
I didn't realize the SR Tumbler was shitty. I have noticed it split my coins into many transactions and many addresses. I'm not familiar with the Casey Jones incident.

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There is one other transaction in the referenced account, for 17.24btc which entered 5/22/13 and is transferred out 5/28/13 - It moves through one intermediary account, is then combined into a block of 200btc and moves through an account that transacts only in 100 or 200btc blocks totaling 10,100btc.  Following any one of those 200btc blocks leads you to apparent “mixer” transactions, small amounts of value peeling off of the larger amount at each hop.    Taint analysis reveals that nearly 10% of those bitcoins eventually pass through an address responsible for transacting more than 419,000btc since 2012

http://letstalkbitcoin.com/post/53700133097/users-bitcoins-seized-by-dea
Title: Re: so confused
Post by: meta on July 08, 2013, 01:53 am
Also, SR mixes your coins whenever you deposit into your account, so keep that in mind.

SR mixes them so it is suspiciously obvious.  They reuse the same wallet addresses A LOT.  Half a million coins through one wallet address. :o

The SR tumbler is pretty shitty.  Remember the Casey Jones case?  Over a half a million coins went through one wallet address if I remember correctly.  That isn't very good tumbling in my opinion...  It should be using more new wallet addresses.
I didn't realize the SR Tumbler was shitty. I have noticed it split my coins into many transactions and many addresses. I'm not familiar with the Casey Jones incident.

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There is one other transaction in the referenced account, for 17.24btc which entered 5/22/13 and is transferred out 5/28/13 - It moves through one intermediary account, is then combined into a block of 200btc and moves through an account that transacts only in 100 or 200btc blocks totaling 10,100btc.  Following any one of those 200btc blocks leads you to apparent “mixer” transactions, small amounts of value peeling off of the larger amount at each hop.    Taint analysis reveals that nearly 10% of those bitcoins eventually pass through an address responsible for transacting more than 419,000btc since 2012

http://letstalkbitcoin.com/post/53700133097/users-bitcoins-seized-by-dea

I was trying to comfort through semi-false assurances -- I know it's shit, haha
Title: Re: so confused
Post by: maxd on July 08, 2013, 02:13 am
localbitcoins.com is definitely the first site I'd use for "anonymous" bitcoin purchasing/selling, but anonymity is overrated.

Just be smart about buying coins:

If you're a buyer of small quantities for personal/personal+friends use (which the majority on here are I assume), purchase coins only when you're going to be spending the coins relatively soon afterwards. Use a laundry service (ex. BitcoinFog) if you're really paranoid or your gov has you under surveillance (heh, as if you'd know!).

Also, SR mixes your coins whenever you deposit into your account, so keep that in mind.

k well what about instawallet? is there any other free reliable wallets i can use?
Title: Re: so confused
Post by: basedglob on July 08, 2013, 02:30 am
CLEARNET** https://blockchain.info/wallet/
Title: Re: so confused
Post by: ACleverUsername on July 08, 2013, 03:17 am
okay so i thought i had this down but i was definately wrong. how the eff do i get coins without giving up who i am? i realize buying coins is not illegal so i dont mind buying them with my info. but where do they get switched to anonymous? also when the eff should i use real/ fake info? also when to use tor/ when to not use it. also when to use throwaway emails and when not to. ive read so many threads that contradict other ones ive read its hard to keep up. some real in depth, easy to follow info would be so much appreciated.

also i tried getting an instawallet but apparently they are down? anyone know anything about this? ugh. someone help!!!

thanks a ton.

Er. Look man, when you send the coins to your SR account, they become anon. At that point no one can prove anything without having admin access to SR. That's not likely to happen.


On the subject of badass BTC services, I recommend BTCQuick. Yes, you have to provide dox. Yes, they require verification. Yes, they charge +7.5%.

However, they just give you a private key with the BTC loaded on it. That, in my opinion, is more secure than sending the BTC to an address. You can load the key on your wallet client (qt doesn't support this) with no problems, and can delete the entire wallet when finished if you're paranoid. Easy.


*Edit* Try Multibit. Nice client.
Title: Re: so confused
Post by: Gwendolyn on July 08, 2013, 03:30 am
Good information. Many thanks!