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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: Speed_R_us on December 26, 2012, 03:16 am
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Hi!
I just want to check if there is demand for high quality -PURE- amphetamine.without any adulterrants/cut substances.
Also, what form would be preferred? Sulfate salt? Phosphate salt? Would anyone be interested in amphetamine specialities such as liquid free base?
Regarding the price, for high purtiy amphetamine, I would aim at pricing it at around 3-4 btc per gram... when looking at speed prices, 1 btc per gram for standard (30%) quality seems common, so this would be more than fair when just looking at plain ammounts, not to mention the healh benefits of a clean product.
It is worth to note that our amphetamine was not made through the common route of reduction with aluminium amalgam, so there is absolutely no way to poison yourself with trace amounts of mercury.
Also, if the customer wants ultra-pure product with multiple re-crystallisation steps on top of the usual steps or any other additional cleaning like chromatography, we can do it!
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I'll buy if you can send it with tracking ;)
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got a vendor account?
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I assume its racemic amph? Obviously pure dextro is more appealing to pretty much everyone here, but that is such a rarity that its not a big deal really. If there is any chance of shipping to Aus I'd definitely be keen. If you can guarantee it hasn't been cut, I think you will find it'll still sell well at that price.
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I just want to check if there is demand for high quality -PURE- amphetamine.without any adulterrants/cut substances.
Also, what form would be preferred? Sulfate salt? Phosphate salt? Would anyone be interested in amphetamine specialities such as liquid free base?
Regarding the price, for high purtiy amphetamine, I would aim at pricing it at around 3-4 btc per gram... when looking at speed prices, 1 btc per gram for standard (30%) quality seems common, so this would be more than fair when just looking at plain ammounts, not to mention the healh benefits of a clean product.
It is worth to note that our amphetamine was not made through the common route of reduction with aluminium amalgam, so there is absolutely no way to poison yourself with trace amounts of mercury.
Demand definitely exists, but it's no mass market like 30% caffeine-speed. There are/were vendors here already selling pure amphetamine. I don't think anyone ever had the problem of not (quickly) selling his/her product (exception: jurgen).
You are talkin 30-40€ per gram? If pure amph is available I always prefer that, but at 30-40EUR I wouldn't. I think the price for 1g real pure amph is something like 30-40 USD/gram. I never bought one single gram though.
Why would you sell free base? So people can make their salts on their own? I wouldn't offer this on here. Or only on request. A lot of people confuse solvents in paste with free base, because the vendors advertise this. I think the initial meaning of paste was: salts mixed with base. It never is (statistics told me), black market paste is usually a bit amph + caffeine + solvent for easier mixing and adding weight + unknown. If you offer that, don't be surprised with questions like "once I evaporated the freebase, where will i find my speed?".
Sulphate is the most common salt sold here. The only other one I ever saw is jurgen's way overpriced phosphate. I would love to test phosphate though and other salts like HCl as well.
So it's made from eph? Yes, worth mentioning. Real knowledge about what is sold exactly is always worth mentioning and will be appreciated.
Disagree that everyone would buy only dextro if available (adderall is far more popular than dexedrine). But dextro is indeed interesting.
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I was under the impression that Adderall was only more popular because it was the script of choice for prescribing docs in America. As far as I know, Dexamphetamine/Dexadrine is rarely prescribed there.
I havn't seen many Adderall listings outside the USA
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Adderall stimulates Norepinephrine/NE release more than Dopamine/DA, whereas Dexedrine is mostly a DA releaser, giving it smoother, less jittery response.
Adderall is better for ADHD and focusing (Its said NE dysfunction is a large part of ADD/ADHD) and has more of a rushy feel because the NE is equally a peripheral stimulant. (increasing breathing, heartrate, bloodpressure)
People with sensitive NE systems tend to get jitters, anxiety and worse peripheral side effects so are switched to Dexedrine
^correct me if i'm wrong please.
I have trouble tolerating Caffeine in even small amounts, Is there any type of test for the presence of caffeine?
That would put me right off street speed. whats the other 30-40%? Is a large percentage of this just water?
is anyone willing to send Add or Dex to the UK?
Caf
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I assume its racemic amph? Obviously pure dextro is more appealing to pretty much everyone here, but that is such a rarity that its not a big deal really. If there is any chance of shipping to Aus I'd definitely be keen. If you can guarantee it hasn't been cut, I think you will find it'll still sell well at that price.
same here if you can have a good rate of shipping to aus i'm definitely very keen to try it out
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Thanks everybody for the positive response!
Off course we will offer tracked shipping (signed for) as well as standard shipping.
I will try to work out a shipment form for international shipping... putting it in an envelope and sending it is not a big deal, but shipping it safely to foreign countries is.
That´s why I thought about shipment to europe for the beginning, but if anybody has a good idea how to package it properly for international shipment, please pm me.. we will work something out.
At first we will ship racemic d,l-amphetamine sulfate and d,l-amphetamine phosphate salts. The buyer can choose. Since the molecular weight of phosphate and sulfate salts are quite the same, the
price will be the same too for both. Later on HCl will be possible too.
Street speed is often a mixture of racemic amphetamine and caffeine. What can be found often as a cut is creatine which has the ideal consistency for a speed cut, it is cheap, available easily in bulk quantities and many people seem to tolerate it quite good. Other common cut substances are magnesium stearate and sometimes even acetaminophen.
In the early days, paste indeed was intended to be amphetamine salt plus free base. (urban legend tells that the free base was improperly converted leftovers, but this is bullshit.. a few more drops of acid and everything would be converted.. plus every chemist would have ph paper at hand).
What is sold as paste nowdays is the above mentioned mixture of amphetamine, often caffeeine, and a solvent. Quite concerning is, that the solvent used is often methanol. Other alcohols like ethanol and isoprop. have quite unique smells and nobody would like speed that smells like this. For this reason many people really use methanol, since it does not really have a strong odor and it is cheap as well..(not to mention its toxicity!)
With all the drawbacks that those cuts provide to the consumer, I am happy that there is a demand for pure product. Also, as mentioned, product is free of mercury contaminations.. not everybody could guarantee this. As far as I know, the chemist uses the standard route of manufacture, but for the last step, the reduction, no mercury is used.
We will set up a vendor account soon and start shipping.
We would really like to know how you like the product, so discussion here is very welcome!
Also, If you got any special needs, please let us know! (De-racemisation is not possible at the moment, maybe if you would like to pay ridiculous price, we will see :-))
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please list you sellet link i am ready to order
hilly
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is anyone willing to send Add or Dex to the UK?
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/db18475873
Seller UK Based. ;)
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Thanks very much quietguy, he has taken the listings off at the mo but ill check back.
I'd like the proper 20MG IR dexedrines though as theyre much better value.
-ive been working out the price per mg, 5 x 28 = 140mg then divide the price by that gives me just over 1.49USD per mg,
in comparison the few vendors selling from the states to worldwide have the 20's for around 0.8USD / mg and a few people on the board have them for lower.
the better potency is more ideal for sniffing, which i'd only be trying.
i might buy a single pill from JesusOfRave who has the 5mg dexamphets'
its a shame none of them are willing to send small amounts first to avoid risking package seizure.
it's ok for them, most of 'em don't mind giving a 50% refund for poorly packaged items that only contained 10% of the original order and seems they were probably rubbed with cannabis etc to get them flagged and opened.
-the few packages that do get through where users report poor packaging and lower than expected quantity seems to prove this.
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I'm probably the exception on this matter but personally i prefer 35% to 40% amph cut with a NON active substance, i really hate cafeine cut speed...
I like to snort lines regurlarly, regardless of how amped up i allready am.
I just love the ritual of cutting, pulling a line and getting tears in my eye from the noseburn. Hell i even love the delicious disgusting drip :-)
Ive had 72% pure sulphate in the past and it ended up with me exceeding my limit pretty fast and getting totally stuck in my head with early paranoia and ending with a horrible comedown.
I prefer something lighter so i can snort a decent line every 2 max 3 hours without getting so tweaked i have trouble socializing, but still strong enough to go fully fucked by upping dose and frequency if i'm in the mood for it.
holiday greetings,
sam
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Very exciting read. It is like you have read my mind. This is what I am talking about vendors. An intelligent vendor that listens to the customers and finds the highest, safest quality solution.
When I buy amphetamine, all I want is amphetamine (Of course with a salt). When I buy MDMA, all I want is MDMA. I do not want to consume additives, take the risk of a heavier package interception, and store garbage cuts/impurities. As others (Boymaster, CapeCrusador), you get a chemist (purist) involved and everybody wins. The vendor has less weight to move for the same (Actually more because they beat all competitors) amount of money, happy customers that keep coming back (Faster because they use purer stuff more often), and they can sleep well at night knowing they are not intentionally/unintentionally hurting people with dangerous cuts.
Speed-R-Us, I am very happy to see you join this party. It is perfect time for you to make your mark before the heavy hitters, (BM/CC) that have already made their reputations, return to the game in a few weeks. I don't think there is a problem for folks that are allergic to sulfa meds with the sulfa salt, but amphetamine phosphate would be great.
I guarantee you will have plenty of business..........I guarantee it because I will take it all ;) ;) ;)
I will look for you on SR
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I'm really interested in pure d-amphetamine. I hope you'll ship on international level.
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I'm probably the exception on this matter but personally i prefer 35% to 40% amph cut with a NON active substance, i really hate cafeine cut speed...
I like to snort lines regurlarly, regardless of how amped up i allready am.
I just love the ritual of cutting, pulling a line and getting tears in my eye from the noseburn. Hell i even love the delicious disgusting drip :-)
Ive had 72% pure sulphate in the past and it ended up with me exceeding my limit pretty fast and getting totally stuck in my head with early paranoia and ending with a horrible comedown.
I prefer something lighter so i can snort a decent line every 2 max 3 hours without getting so tweaked i have trouble socializing, but still strong enough to go fully fucked by upping dose and frequency if i'm in the mood for it.
holiday greetings,
sam
my second from last post here ended with how bad caffeine effects but the post was cut of prematurely. i used to use 4-6 of the 50mg caffeine pills as a youngster, even a mildly strong coffee gives me jitters and anxiety now..
have you had any luck with caffeine-free amp?
I know how MDMA can never be purer than around 84% because its not cut, the extra weight is just the HCl salt form giving it better bio-availability.
is this the same for Amp? i presume Paste means that its somewhat moist, but this could also refer to a clumpy dried out paste.
the 60-70% purity really puts me off, but ive heard street speed is as low as fifteen-twenty%
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60-70% is somewhat close to 'pure' amphetamine. Amphetamine sulfate(Most common amph salt) will always weigh more than freebase amphetamine(duh) and as such, will never be defined as 90%+ purity.
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if you have codeine available and lab make desomorphine that will earn a lot of money. Clean and pure but you have to know what you're doing.
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I am hoping that my UC arrives today with fingers crossed