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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: snickerlover6969 on June 18, 2012, 04:55 am

Title: MDMA PURITY
Post by: snickerlover6969 on June 18, 2012, 04:55 am
Does anybody know how to get the exact purity of MDMA ?
Title: Re: MDMA PURITY
Post by: weedsaves on June 18, 2012, 09:05 am
Apparently you can send a sample to dancesafe.org along with some cash and they can test it for you. There is also a thread in Drug Safety on how to wash your own MDMA to purify it. Good luck.
Title: Re: MDMA PURITY
Post by: Kappacino on June 18, 2012, 09:07 am
Apparently you can send a sample to dancesafe.org along with some cash and they can test it for you. There is also a thread in Drug Safety on how to wash your own MDMA to purify it. Good luck.

+1 there are various labs that you can pay to have a sample tested at.

It can cost quite a lot though
Title: Re: MDMA PURITY
Post by: milkman420 on June 18, 2012, 04:07 pm
dancesafe.org i heard of as well...i wont send there to risky i feel
Title: Re: MDMA PURITY
Post by: mrduke on June 18, 2012, 04:38 pm
MDMA has the same characteristics as cocaine in that it is a HCl salt, and its freebase can be obtained removing the HCl molecule. Just as cocaines purity may be approximately measures by doing this ( It is not exact, other things in the sample may freebase/salt as well), the same may be done with MDMA. Anhydrous Acetone can also be used to wash the sample, which will give a very approximate indication of cuts. I believe there are threads on both these procedures on drugs-forum.com. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: MDMA PURITY
Post by: Bordermolethesecond on June 18, 2012, 09:10 pm
If 0.2g gets you out of the banger, its pretty foookin pure.
Title: Re: MDMA PURITY
Post by: snickerlover6969 on June 18, 2012, 11:53 pm
If 0.2g gets you out of the banger, its pretty foookin pure.

well i've had some local molly and i thought it was pretty fuckin pure cuz .2 would fkn be a sick ass roll..but i ordered some from the NL and its supposed to be 84% and .2 put me on my ass!! i was literally floored after taking a bunch of X last week for EDC!! i just want to know if its really 84%...
Title: Re: MDMA PURITY
Post by: gambino on June 18, 2012, 11:58 pm
ecstasy data dot org.  cost is $120 for molly or only $40 for a pressed XTC pill.
Title: Re: MDMA PURITY
Post by: snickerlover6969 on June 19, 2012, 12:11 am
ecstasy data dot org.  cost is $120 for molly or only $40 for a pressed XTC pill.

does it give you exact purity?? ive been on that site and sometimes they give % and sometimes they dont..weird..
Title: Re: MDMA PURITY
Post by: cryLOTT on June 19, 2012, 01:54 am
I believe there is much misunderstanding surrounding the question of purity of MDMA, and other drugs.

The MDMA, or "molly", you buy is crystalline MDMA.HCL, which means it consists of molecules of MDMA (CO2C9NH2) that are weakly bonded with HCl molecules to form the hydrochloride salt (CO2C9NH3+:Cl-).

If you wanted "pure MDMA" you could have the "freebase" i.e. not bonded with anything to make a salt, but this is not preferred, as salts are far stabler than freebases.

Of course, the addition of the HCl makes each molecule heavier, and so you have to have proportionally more to have the same effect.

The "84% is pure" notion arises from the fact that in a MDMA:HCl molecule, 84% of the weight is the MDMA, and 16% is the HCl. This is a bandied around number because in a mass spectrometer, where at high energies all the weak bonds get broken, 84% of the mass flying through the machine is MDMA, hence the readout.

If you've genuinely got 84% MDMA:HCl, throw it away! 16% of other shit is too much! I've done some basic chemistry on the mandy I take, and it seems to be upwards of 98% pure MDMA.HCl.

tl;dr 84% of a pure MDMA.HCl sample is MDMA
Title: Re: MDMA PURITY
Post by: gambino on June 19, 2012, 03:14 am
ecstasy data dot org.  cost is $120 for molly or only $40 for a pressed XTC pill.

does it give you exact purity?? ive been on that site and sometimes they give % and sometimes they dont..weird..

No, it will only give you a list of the active components and their relative contribution to the mix.  I guess I misunderstood your question.  If you want to know whether there are inactive cuts and how much, then you have to look elsewhere.  Not sure where in the U.S., but I know it's common in the NL.
Title: Re: MDMA PURITY
Post by: gambino on June 19, 2012, 03:25 am
This is why people on this board rely so much on consensus.  If everyone likes it, it's considered high purity.  Unfortunately, this is far from fool proof. 

Appearance is another important factor.  If the product is crystalline and chunky, it's one more positive factor to consider.  A powdered product seems much more likely to have been cut.  Again, far from fool proof, but absent your own GC/MS, you have to use the information available. 
Title: Re: MDMA PURITY
Post by: Kappacino on June 19, 2012, 03:34 am
This is why people on this board rely so much on consensus.  If everyone likes it, it's considered high purity.  Unfortunately, this is far from fool proof. 

Appearance is another important factor.  If the product is crystalline and chunky, it's one more positive factor to consider.  A powdered product seems much more likely to have been cut.  Again, far from fool proof, but absent your own GC/MS, you have to use the information available.

Yeah, it turned out Tony was powdering down and then cutting it with methylone or some other similar shit

Its funny cause people in his thread were saying "this shit is wack this isn't pure what the fuck," and hordes of Tony's fanboys were  coming out and shutting these people down. Irony is, they were the ones that really knew the score and were experienced with mdma. The others were just hype artists that were sucking a dudes dick cause he sent them some stuff in the post
Title: Re: MDMA PURITY
Post by: gambino on June 19, 2012, 04:35 am
This is why people on this board rely so much on consensus.  If everyone likes it, it's considered high purity.  Unfortunately, this is far from fool proof. 

Appearance is another important factor.  If the product is crystalline and chunky, it's one more positive factor to consider.  A powdered product seems much more likely to have been cut.  Again, far from fool proof, but absent your own GC/MS, you have to use the information available.

Yeah, it turned out Tony was powdering down and then cutting it with methylone or some other similar shit

Its funny cause people in his thread were saying "this shit is wack this isn't pure what the fuck," and hordes of Tony's fanboys were  coming out and shutting these people down. Irony is, they were the ones that really knew the score and were experienced with mdma. The others were just hype artists that were sucking a dudes dick cause he sent them some stuff in the post

I never understood the adulation and complete lack of objectivity people had for tony.  That was the biggest reason I never ordered from him.  I just didn't trust it.