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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Churchwarden on June 24, 2013, 01:18 pm
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So I'm just wondering if anybody has any preferred alternative herbs for rolling up spliffs? I'm a non-smoker and, although it's tolerable, weed and tobacco just isn't enjoyable for me. I've ordered 50g of both raspberry leaves and damiana to try out but they're not in yet.
For anyone in North America who doesn't know what spliffs are, smokers in Europe (especially the UK) tend to mix weed and tobacco when rolling.
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I've had friends that used hemp (the cannabis without THC) to mix with weed, weed and hemp go along really well but it's that easy to find. Some herbal teas are also good to smoke, it tastes good!
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You can order some wild dagga flowers. Saw some videos on YouTube of people smoking it in a joint. They said it tastes pretty good, not harsh, burns nice, and has a slight relaxing properties on it's own.
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Damiana
http://www.erowid.org/herbs/damiana/
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Damiana
http://www.erowid.org/herbs/damiana/
Yeah I ordered some Damiana off ebay, shipped today apparently.
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Damiana
http://www.erowid.org/herbs/damiana/
Yeah I ordered some Damiana off ebay, shipped today apparently.
Have you tried it before? How does it compare to other drugs? Only damiana I've ever smoked was infused with JWH-210 :)
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Nah never tried it but most people say it's effects are very minimal. I will post back here with a review of both the Damiana I ordered and the Raspberry leaf. Mixed with Hash, as that's what I'm holding at the moment.
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If you somehow dislike the effect of nicotine in the mix, just use the tobacco from ultra light cigs like barclays.
Cannabis can be smoked pure as well if its the right stuff, but if its hash like that would be problematic. Crumling up a normal cigarette and mixing that in works very well, regardgess if its a full flavor cig or a very light one.
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Yeah the Damiana and Raspberry leaves together were only 3 bucks so I thought I might as well give it a try, failing that I'm just going to hunt out the lightest and least harsh tobacco I can get. I love how easy tobacco in the mix makes rolling anyway.
For anyone breezing by who smokes, have you ever had a cigarette where you felt like you would have to smoke like 3 to get your fix? My friends say they've bummed smokes where it's just like sucking air.
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From Wikipedia
"Various plants are used around the world for smoking due to various chemical compounds they contain and the effects of these chemicals on the human body. This list contains plants that are smoked, rather than those that are used in the process of smoking or in the preparation of the substance.
Amaranthus dubius
Arctostaphylos uva-ursi ~ "Bearberry"
Argemone mexicana
Arnica
Artemisia vulgaris
Calea zacatechichi
Canavalia maritima ~ "Baybean"
Cannabis
Cecropia mexicana ~ "Guamura"
Cestrum nocturnum ~ "Hasana" ???
Cynoglossum virginianum L. ~ wild comfrey[1]
Cytisus scoparius
Entada rheedii
Eschscholzia californica ~ “California Poppy”
Fittonia albivenis
Hippobroma longiflora
Humulus japonica ~ “Japanese Hops”
Humulus lupulus ~ "Hops"
Lactuca virosa ~ "Lettuce Opium"
Laggera alata ~ "?”
Leonotis leonurus
Leonurus cardiaca ~ "Motherwort"
Leonurus sibiricus ~ "Honeyweed"
Lobelia cardinalis
Lobelia inflata ~ "Indian-tobacco"[2]
Lobelia inflata[3]
Lobelia siphilitica
Nepeta cataria ~ "Catnip"
Nicotiana species ~ "Tobacco"
Nymphaea alba
Opium poppy
Passiflora incarnata ~ "Passionflower"
Pedicularis densiflora ~ "Indian Warrior"
Pedicularis groenlandica ~ "Elephant's Head"
Salvia divinorum
Salvia dorrii ~ "Tobacco Sage"
Salvia species; etc. ~ “Sage”, etc.
Scutellaria galericulata
Scutellaria lateriflora
Scutellaria nana
Scutellaria species ~ "Skullcap"
Sida acuta ~ "Wireweed"
Sida rhombifolia ~ "Wireweed"
Silene capensis
Syzygium aromaticum - clove
Tagetes lucida ~ "Mexican Tarragon"
Tarchonanthus camphoratus ~ "???"
Turnera diffusa ~ "Damiana"
Verbascum species ~ "Mullein"
Zornia latifolia ~ "Maconha Brava"
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I've found the only thing to mix smke with, other than tobacco, is more smoke. Or else just take up vaping.
I love cannabis. If you do to, I'm sure diluting it with anything else - you're not addicted to (tobacco) - will just be an insult. Aim to get a vaporizer. It's not the same, but that's not the point if you're doing this for health reasons
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I have used Coltsfoot in the past which is a fine fluffy leaf, can be mixed with other "harder" things like peppermint. mullein is quite strong and i find it to give a slightly uncomfortable narcotic feeling.
I used nicotina rustica also - as opposed to nicotianum tobacum, with a lot of success. However this is a deep plant and needs a lot of respect (eg never mix with alcohol)
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Have you tried menthol tobacco instead of regular? I find that it's noticeably less harsh for mixing with weed or hash.
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Have you tried menthol tobacco instead of regular? I find that it's noticeably less harsh for mixing with weed or hash.
That's the worst idea ever. Unless you don't like the taste of weed of course.
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Have you tried menthol tobacco instead of regular? I find that it's noticeably less harsh for mixing with weed or hash.
That's the worst idea ever. Unless you don't like the taste of weed of course.
Yeah, I love menthol smokes, great on the throat but honestly I'm looking for something that will be barely noticeable at all. Or if it is then at least something that is complementary, then if I don't want to smoke it all the time I can at least keep it around for a little mix up from time to time.
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I was thinking of trying ginko bilboa. I'm not sure if you can smoke it or not, or how harsh it is, but I read others saying that a cup of strong ginko tea before smoking definitely alters the effect.
There's other potentiators I read about, like high omega 3 products such as fish oil. I guess the thought being that if you take that over time it increases increases the quantity of THC receptors in the brain? I didn't fully check that one out though.
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Tried the Damiana, done deal. Love it, smokes perfect, super smooth, great with the hash. Just going to stick with that.
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For anyone in North America who doesn't know what spliffs are, smokers in Europe (especially the UK) tend to mix weed and tobacco when rolling.
Why would anyone want to do that? what a waste in my opinion
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clove djharam cigars
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That would be interesting really :)
I lilee smoking clove cigs (kreteks), particularly djaum supers.
I've never tried them with cannabis though, while that would be easy to try since i have all the ingredients. Is there anything special about it?
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I've wanted to try the Djarum blacks ever since I saw an ad for them somewhere but haven't gotten around to it. Might pick up a pack sometime and try them out.
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Err... why not just remove the nicotine from the tobacco? Tobacco produced for smoking is exactly that, a plant material that has been processed(somewhat extensively) for the specific purpose of smoking. Nicotine is water soluable, get some tobacco, throw it in a cup of water, leave it for an hour or so, then take it out and let it dry. Smoking medium without psychoactivity.
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Err... why not just remove the nicotine from the tobacco? Tobacco produced for smoking is exactly that, a plant material that has been processed(somewhat extensively) for the specific purpose of smoking. Nicotine is water soluable, get some tobacco, throw it in a cup of water, leave it for an hour or so, then take it out and let it dry. Smoking medium without psychoactivity.
Mainly because I got the Damiana at $3 for 50 grams. Tobacco is expensive and I enjoy the damiana a lot more. Stoner on a budget or else I would just smoke pures all the time, I hate mixing but when you're rolling up joints all night when hosting a party or some shit a mixer helps the bud stretch. Especially if you get your bud from SR...fucking extortion for decent shit.