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Title: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on January 08, 2013, 03:32 am
it seems like all that ever goes around nowadays is methylone, or some other random cathinone capped up.
i want to supply my people with actual, legit mdma.
but i wish to sell it and make money off of it.
if i buy domestic, the profits will be minimal, so here's the question.
who in the united states buys mdma from out of the country?
who have you had success with? who has fair prices? who has legit mdma that i can pass around instead of this god damn methylone!
please help guise, i want to do this right.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: DrugDealer on January 08, 2013, 03:36 am
Don't know bro.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on January 08, 2013, 03:41 am
I buy from out of the country, and make a killing. Basically all the mdma from europe is legit, but you get what you pay for with the pricier stuff being better to the cheaper stuff being "cheaper"

Where i live i can make 30x off any investment with a European dealer.
yeah i figure i will make money either way because i will be running the molly market out here with actual mdma xD
im just not sure who to go with. im mostly concerned with pricing/stealth. could care less about shipping times if its the best deal.

oh and i feel that i would trust a canadian vendor before a uk vendor, but i guess thats just my paranoia?
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wretched on January 08, 2013, 04:00 am
I recommend
LuckyLucianno MDMA - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/a773f1b769
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: NoddingOff on January 08, 2013, 04:04 am
I buy from Dutch and CloudSurfer and do the same thing you're planning on doing! I do make a lot of money but the enjoyment I bring to others is far more gratifying  :)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Aurelius Venport on January 08, 2013, 05:03 am
there is always a legit EU guy slangin chep mdma reliably.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: heliotap on January 08, 2013, 05:09 am
I mostly just sell to my friends now but sometimes im curious how some people make money off of pills.  Since some pills for example partyflocks cost around 9-10 dollars a piece do you charge 20 or 30 a piece in the states.  I find buying molly and selling caps means more money for me in the end.  I can see major profit if you buy bulk if you can afford it like supertrips 100xGreen Question marks for $4.60 a piece and sell each for $15 or $20 a pop.  I'm new to the game and like the OP i want to spread the love of real mdma not pipes or methylone instead but wouldnt mind expanding and spreading said product in my area.  Most events i go to im said only dealer there and run out of product pretty quickly but was just wondering on whats a fair deal to myself and my customers.   $10 a point or let my product speak for itself and give a few freebies away like some professional vendors here do. 

Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: captainfun on January 08, 2013, 08:07 am
I live on the west coast of the US and for the past five months have been buying pressed pills from SR and selling them locally.  It's been real hit and miss.  Guys like BeansUSA and BrPower have delivered but then I'd turn around and get burned by F16 or CookieClub and suddenly ... all the profits that I've earned are gone.  Why not just fid one reliable vender and stick with him?  Wish I could.  I'll have success buying 150 partyflocks from BrPower but when I return a few weeks later to buy more he's sold out and has no listings avail.  So then I'll buy from BeansUSA and a few weeks later... same result.  He's shut down.  Which then forces me to have to try yet another vendor. 

Also, I'm sorry, but the shipping time will absolutely impact you if you're trying to get a legitimate business going.  After spending six weeks getting the word out that you've got product, you finally start getting the phone to ring consistently only to have to tell them "Sorry.  Sold out.  When's my next shipment?  I dunno...could be tomorrow... could be thirty days from now.".  Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in your customers.

I wish to God I could find someone local, someone in the Los Angeles area that I could do business with.  But as you've surmised... the local people want you to pay $12 to $15 for a pill... even when you're ordering bulk.  And there's simply no room for profit with that kind of arrangement.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: n1ll0 on January 08, 2013, 08:50 am
yeeah .. it  seems like there is actually quite a bit of an opportunity in most places in the US to make a significant profit, assuming you are able to find a reliable vendor with quality product. I don't even know if I could find molly locally and pressed pills are usually 50/50 methylone and still expensive as shit (~20 to 25 a pill). The only thing I would be worried about is stepping on the toes of local distribution networks. The weed market has generally been taken over by local home growers producing quality herb (also by MMJ distributors), but im pretty sure that MDMA production as well as the higher level distribution is still cornered by organized crime (gangs, cartels, etc). I could be way off base on this as this is really just speculation on my part, but I would make sure you have your ass covered with regard to safety precautions. If you start moving a significant quantity of high quality, cheap MDMA, you're going to take a significant share of the market in your area and are muuuch more likely to pop up on SOMEONES radar.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: junkiebug on January 08, 2013, 08:58 am
In my area people hate paying more than $10 for an X pill. I wish I could sell em for 20-25...
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on January 08, 2013, 04:12 pm
yeeah .. it  seems like there is actually quite a bit of an opportunity in most places in the US to make a significant profit, assuming you are able to find a reliable vendor with quality product. I don't even know if I could find molly locally and pressed pills are usually 50/50 methylone and still expensive as shit (~20 to 25 a pill). The only thing I would be worried about is stepping on the toes of local distribution networks. The weed market has generally been taken over by local home growers producing quality herb (also by MMJ distributors), but im pretty sure that MDMA production as well as the higher level distribution is still cornered by organized crime (gangs, cartels, etc). I could be way off base on this as this is really just speculation on my part, but I would make sure you have your ass covered with regard to safety precautions. If you start moving a significant quantity of high quality, cheap MDMA, you're going to take a significant share of the market in your area and are muuuch more likely to pop up on SOMEONES radar.

lol i cant lie this made me laugh. cartells arent messing with mdma from what i know of and even if they were, they arent going to come knocking on my door xD
yes that is purely speculation and i dont think there is any evidence behind that but.....
im well respected in my town. i always have information about any drug you might be taking.
if you have a question to ask about any drug regarding safety, dosage, and the experience itself, im the guy people tend to turn towards.
the only reason they turn to me is because they are too lazy to look into it themselves, which scares me...

but im telling you that to show that even if other people were slinging molly in my area, they wouldnt go after me.
im not some punkass kid thats taking their business, im that smart kid that is educated in the area of substance abuse and i have legit goodies xD
if anything, the previous molly dealers will just try to pick some up from me a little cheaper and sell it themselves.

when i had rogerpetes dmt i shared it with one of the people that sells molly in my area, as well as another nug and fungus dealer.
they both simply acknowledged that i will always have legit shit now , and almost every time i hit them up to get them to try something, they do  ;D


but im rambling. thank you so much for the suggestions guys. i will keep digging around on the road/on here and see what will work best for me.

will let you know how it goes!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Lubriderm on January 08, 2013, 04:25 pm
The MDMA vendors here are great but the problem is that i have no customer base for molly, it sucks... If i did would be making so much profit
Its not easy to find customers either... :/
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on January 08, 2013, 04:51 pm
The MDMA vendors here are great but the problem is that i have no customer base for molly, it sucks... If i did would be making so much profit
Its not easy to find customers either... :/

go to raves man!
better yet if you were the guy at (any) festival with moon rocks, you would become a rich man no doubt. thats all anyone talked about at electric forest was moon rocks
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: TrashBox on January 08, 2013, 04:59 pm
 I'm in a smaller community. Not too many people have even heard of Molly (pure mdma), they assume it's the ecstasy of the 90s. Cocaine is prevelant.

After xmas I ordered 5gs MDMA from Evilution. It is *suppossed* to arrive in the next 10 days. I'm throwing myself a bday party and renting a party bus with music (dance, old skooool rap, whomp whomp), crazy lights, a stripper pole, etc. My plan is to gift out the 5gs to friends (and friends of friends) and show everyone a really fucking good time. Hopefully it will be a good business investment.

I also plan on approaching one of the bigger fraternities at the university near me to see if they need a good supplier. I'm convinced all they do is blow around here and I'm going to try to spread the Molly love bc I believe it's SO MUCH better than coke.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Doc_Tryptamine on January 08, 2013, 07:14 pm
Man, we need someone to start synth'ing stateside and supply the road. From there it would spread out everywhere...and so many would get to feel happy :)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: thisworld on January 08, 2013, 08:06 pm
Honestly man, if you're not worried about shipping time, go with DutchAanbod.  Seriously.  10g-90g at $18.3/g.  Keep in mind that you'll be paying ~$20 for shipping and it'll probably take 3/4 weeks because he's gotta smuggle it into germany before it ships. But you CAN'T beat his prices. 

Otherwise use SuperTrips.  He'll sell you 10g for $300 free shipping and 7-12 business days for delivery to US.  I DO personally prefer DA's Molly, but ST's is still VERY good and better than anything else in the area by easily 30%. 

However, n1ll0 is correct about shipping times affecting your business because once you get people hitting you up for product, you don't wanna turn them down because it'll take that much more effort for you to convince them to try your services again.  Seriously, for me it's always taken FOREVER to get people to start hitting me up(even with generous free samples) and they only start calling me when I'm out! :/  It sucks but it's SO true!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on January 08, 2013, 11:45 pm
Honestly man, if you're not worried about shipping time, go with DutchAanbod.  Seriously.  10g-90g at $18.3/g.  Keep in mind that you'll be paying ~$20 for shipping and it'll probably take 3/4 weeks because he's gotta smuggle it into germany before it ships. But you CAN'T beat his prices. 

Yes a lot of people like Dutch.  OldAmsterdam is also good, and I have previously ordered with Mercury31.  I would advise you to alternate vendors in case one ever goes rogue.

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Otherwise use SuperTrips.  He'll sell you 10g for $300 free shipping and 7-12 business days for delivery to US.  I DO personally prefer DA's Molly, but ST's is still VERY good and better than anything else in the area by easily 30%. 

Hmmm, SuperTrips more or less went rogue back in September 2012.  Did the people he scammed all get their money back?

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However, n1ll0 is correct about shipping times affecting your business because once you get people hitting you up for product, you don't wanna turn them down because it'll take that much more effort for you to convince them to try your services again.  Seriously, for me it's always taken FOREVER to get people to start hitting me up(even with generous free samples) and they only start calling me when I'm out! :/  It sucks but it's SO true!

+1 big time.  Always try to be in stock and have a backup plan in case one of your orders doesn't arrive.  Try your absolute best not to Finalize Early because then if you don't receive your order you can at least get a refund and re-order from someone else.

If you're in a big city then ramping up in the market should not be too much of an issue.  As long as you have good quality stuff then word of mouth will spread relatively quickly.  If you're in a smaller market you'd still be surprised... good quality molly will slowly create a market where there was none before (this is not always the case though, depends on the city).

Once you start selling large amounts some issues that pop up will be the time needed to encapsulate the MDMA and how to use your profits without catching the eyes of the DEA, FBI, or IRS but you've probably got a while before you get to that point.  Don't ever tell your customers where you get your MDMA from nor how much it costs you per pill.  Give them incentives to buy in bulk so that you have less points of contact per $.  For instance I'm considering selling first 10 for $20/pill then subsequent ones for $15/pill.  It will depend on your market though.

Good luck!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: n1ll0 on January 08, 2013, 11:50 pm
yeeah .. it  seems like there is actually quite a bit of an opportunity in most places in the US to make a significant profit, assuming you are able to find a reliable vendor with quality product. I don't even know if I could find molly locally and pressed pills are usually 50/50 methylone and still expensive as shit (~20 to 25 a pill). The only thing I would be worried about is stepping on the toes of local distribution networks. The weed market has generally been taken over by local home growers producing quality herb (also by MMJ distributors), but im pretty sure that MDMA production as well as the higher level distribution is still cornered by organized crime (gangs, cartels, etc). I could be way off base on this as this is really just speculation on my part, but I would make sure you have your ass covered with regard to safety precautions. If you start moving a significant quantity of high quality, cheap MDMA, you're going to take a significant share of the market in your area and are muuuch more likely to pop up on SOMEONES radar.

lol i cant lie this made me laugh. cartells arent messing with mdma from what i know of and even if they were, they arent going to come knocking on my door xD
yes that is purely speculation and i dont think there is any evidence behind that..

hahah yeah.. ive probably been watching too many fictional drug related TV shows...  But i have been thinking seriously about this same thing and I have been trying to speculate logically about all aspects of the enterprise.. You very well may be right about the situation in your town, especially if you are in a smaller town with only local drug dealers then I can definitely see this being the case. However the following logical assumptions kept sticking in my mind when going over the situation:

1. A report (CLEARNET PDF LINK - sorry I wasn't able to upload it to scribd, but you might be able to preview it through google search cache if you search for "United States MDMA Trafficking" - www.hawaii.edu/hivandaids/Joint%20Assessment%20of%20MDMA%20Trafficking%20Trends.pdf) sponsored by the National Drug Intelligence Center, DEA, and ICE found that the majority of MDMA is smuggled into the US by Israeli and Russian Organized crime (granted this report was from 2000 and the DEA have made a couple huge MDMA seizures in the intervening time, but the situation is likely very similar, if not the same)

2. Aforementioned crime organizations expend significant effort and resources to smuggle and distribute MDMA in the united states, and based off of the significant quantities  of the drug that have been confiscated by the DEA and Customs Enforcement, the US MDMA market is a signficant source of revenue to renew their resources.

3. Depending on where you enter the distribution chain and the quantities you are slinging, if a intermediate wholesale or local buyer begins sourcing a large amount of product from you instead of their normal source (from above, likely an organized crime network), you are definitely going to be taking a significant cut of revenue from these networks.

4. In order to protect their revenue source and future viability as large scale drug distribution networks, said organizations could (and in my imagining likely WOULD) investigate the new source (you) and retaliate.

Again, speculation on my part, but I believe logical speculation. Also, as mentioned above, there are a number of contributing factors that might make it significantly less likely to be noticed, ie. not selling huge quantities, selling only to local dealers and not intermediate wholesale providers, your specific locale (eg midwest or mountain area are further away from sea-based metropolitan import areas, ie large import and distribution nodes for international crime organizations, so would be further down the distribution chain from the organized crime networks).
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: thisworld on January 09, 2013, 03:03 am
ST had a pretty large issue with cashing out btc and got behind.

He's refunded everyone to whom it was do.  I'd say he's more than proved himself.  In fact, I made an order from him early dec and received it in 11 business days.  Phenomenal product!! :D
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: hee57 on January 09, 2013, 05:48 am
The MDMA vendors here are great but the problem is that i have no customer base for molly, it sucks... If i did would be making so much profit
Its not easy to find customers either... :/

Part of the issue here is that people don't repeatedly use it (if they're smart) due to neurotoxicity. So something you can redose or wait a couple weeks on (i.e. acid, shrooms, weed, opiates, amphetamines, cocaine, etc.) will be easy to make a killing on due to repeat service whereas with mdma you've got a profit margin of 3-20 $ per month per person depending on your markup. As such you really need a lot of people.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: ArthurAUS on January 09, 2013, 10:35 am
I don't really understand what you mean?

It's fairly straight forward:

1. Acquire MDMA at a fair price on the road

2. Wait for MDMA to be in your possesion

3. Do all your profit/loss margin work to find the price you need to sell at  to make the amount you would like.

4. Find people who want to buy MDMA (You could do that before it arrives if you wanna get rid of it quickly)

5. Done.

6. Repeat

and if u would like to make a lot of money, buy in bulk and sell it to other people to deal.

that is what i think, seems fairly easy.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Aurelius Venport on January 09, 2013, 12:25 pm
yeeah .. it  seems like there is actually quite a bit of an opportunity in most places in the US to make a significant profit, assuming you are able to find a reliable vendor with quality product. I don't even know if I could find molly locally and pressed pills are usually 50/50 methylone and still expensive as shit (~20 to 25 a pill). The only thing I would be worried about is stepping on the toes of local distribution networks. The weed market has generally been taken over by local home growers producing quality herb (also by MMJ distributors), but im pretty sure that MDMA production as well as the higher level distribution is still cornered by organized crime (gangs, cartels, etc). I could be way off base on this as this is really just speculation on my part, but I would make sure you have your ass covered with regard to safety precautions. If you start moving a significant quantity of high quality, cheap MDMA, you're going to take a significant share of the market in your area and are muuuch more likely to pop up on SOMEONES radar.

only if you're a moron and dont know how to sell drugs honestly. this is REAL LIFE not some show you saw on TV. Granted, I do live in a MASSIVE market, but even moving kg+ here people stay really low on the radar. you fuck with your circle. if you dont have the circle then all the dumb shit ur talking about happens. no offense.

Honestly man, if you're not worried about shipping time, go with DutchAanbod.  Seriously.  10g-90g at $18.3/g.  Keep in mind that you'll be paying ~$20 for shipping and it'll probably take 3/4 weeks because he's gotta smuggle it into germany before it ships. But you CAN'T beat his prices. 

agreed. $18-30 a gram is inconsequantial imho

Otherwise use SuperTrips.  He'll sell you 10g for $300 free shipping and 7-12 business days for delivery to US.  I DO personally prefer DA's Molly, but ST's is still VERY good and better than anything else in the area by easily 30%.   

yes

it's always taken FOREVER to get people to start hitting me up(even with generous free samples) and they only start calling me when I'm out! :/  It sucks but it's SO true!

happens all the time while you're building up. ive been dealing with this IRL with different things but yes quite true until you get your base.

Man, we need someone to start synth'ing stateside and supply the road. From there it would spread out everywhere...and so many would get to feel happy :)

there are def ppl doing so and still charging retail or not so amazing prices, OR amazing prices and u dont know em.

The MDMA vendors here are great but the problem is that i have no customer base for molly, it sucks... If i did would be making so much profit
Its not easy to find customers either... :/

lol you need to learn how to sell drugs. i used to think this too. if there isnt demand you create it. dirty game.

Part of the issue here is that people don't repeatedly use it (if they're smart) due to neurotoxicity. So something you can redose or wait a couple weeks on (i.e. acid, shrooms, weed, opiates, amphetamines, cocaine, etc.) will be easy to make a killing on due to repeat service whereas with mdma you've got a profit margin of 3-20 $ per month per person depending on your markup. As such you really need a lot of people.

this is sort of true, esp if you're dealing with closer friends that are more responsible. but you would be amazed at how bad people binge the fuck out on this shit. most people have a one or two year run and then chill. some dont. all this online shit about spacing your rolls, well, yeah right. go to ground zero. people abuse the fuck out of this drug and its not a game. there are plenty of responsible users too and when thats all you know it can be frustrating.

Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: camelherder on January 09, 2013, 10:41 pm
I don't really understand what you mean?

It's fairly straight forward:

1. Acquire MDMA at a fair price on the road

2. Wait for MDMA to be in your possesion

3. Do all your profit/loss margin work to find the price you need to sell at  to make the amount you would like.

4. Find people who want to buy MDMA (You could do that before it arrives if you wanna get rid of it quickly)

5. Done.

6. Repeat

and if u would like to make a lot of money, buy in bulk and sell it to other people to deal.

that is what i think, seems fairly easy.

Lol... THIS.


There's alot of stuff about dealing that only real life experience will teach you. Good luck!

But remember - Your word. Your reputation. These are two fundamental things you need to maintain, or you might find yourself in unpleasant situations. It's all fun and games on the internet but there's a scary world out there for people who don't keep their end of the bargain.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: energyimport on January 10, 2013, 02:46 am
Were im from you couldnt sell a pressy for 5 bucks even if you had a certified letter from a lab stating it contains 200+mg of MDMA, Yet they will by any random powder inside of a capsule for 25-30 bucks each...The shit blows my mind I just dont under stand people and there thought process.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: heliotap on January 10, 2013, 02:52 am
Sounds like your from the mint capital but around my area 300k pop its pretty dry and only times i see any molly are at festivals and most of the time its methylone and have gotten piped once myself so ive never had any trouble selling pills for 20 to 30 and caps around usually 20.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Looker on January 10, 2013, 02:56 am
Were im from you couldnt sell a pressy for 5 bucks even if you had a certified letter from a lab stating it contains 200+mg of MDMA, Yet they will by any random powder inside of a capsule for 25-30 bucks each...The shit blows my mind I just dont under stand people and there thought process.

This^^^^^

People near me won't touch pressies either but think methylone is mdma %75 of the time because of unscrupulous dealers and they'll pop just about any white powder in a capsule, and question a brown one :-?
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on January 10, 2013, 03:12 am
it seems like all that ever goes around nowadays is methylone, or some other random cathinone capped up.
i want to supply my people with actual, legit mdma.
but i wish to sell it and make money off of it.
if i buy domestic, the profits will be minimal, so here's the question.
who in the united states buys mdma from out of the country?
who have you had success with? who has fair prices? who has legit mdma that i can pass around instead of this god damn methylone!
please help guise, i want to do this right.

Buy from Supertrips, he ships from Germany which is a better place to be receiving a package from in the states the than the NL. I haven't ordered from him personally(yet) but he is in the top 1% of sellers and offers a full refund/reship policy if your package is lost.

If i was in your position and i was selling, here's what i would do. First do a test buy from whoever, make sure his stealth packaging is good(I assume if its ST his is good, cause he's in the top 1%) for maybe 10g's. Not too big an investment. If that works, start buying in bulk, like his 100g packages. You don't want to be receiving constant shipments of goods, the higher the frequency of shipments, the more likely one could get intercepted, and now your secretly under surveillance.

Now as for the selling, do the same thing. Sell in bulk. Put a fucking layer or two of abstraction between you and the guy selling on the street. You literally want to become the Walter White of MDMA from Season 5 of breaking bad. Sell in Bulk, you are a distributor not a dealer. The more transactions you handle, the more possibilities that one goes wrong and you get taken down. You sell in minimum 10g quantities to your dealers. They don't sell directly to anyone, they distribute this again to another set of people. At this point, those people are the actual dealers on the street.

I can't stress enough how little you want to be actually dealing with drug addicts/junkies. Personal friends no problem, do not say one word to some guy fiending for a drug. EVER.

Also, don't buy pressed pills, you just add on a lazy tax for yourself. If you buy crystal/powder and invest just a bit in a capsule filler/empty capsules, you're profit margin will be a lot higher. Plus it seems to people that it's less likely that you cut it, what with that myth that pure molly comes in caps anyways.

Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: heliotap on January 10, 2013, 04:02 am
it seems like all that ever goes around nowadays is methylone, or some other random cathinone capped up.
i want to supply my people with actual, legit mdma.
but i wish to sell it and make money off of it.
if i buy domestic, the profits will be minimal, so here's the question.
who in the united states buys mdma from out of the country?
who have you had success with? who has fair prices? who has legit mdma that i can pass around instead of this god damn methylone!
please help guise, i want to do this right.

Buy from Supertrips, he ships from Germany which is a better place to be receiving a package from in the states the than the NL. I haven't ordered from him personally(yet) but he is in the top 1% of sellers and offers a full refund/reship policy if your package is lost.

If i was in your position and i was selling, here's what i would do. First do a test buy from whoever, make sure his stealth packaging is good(I assume if its ST his is good, cause he's in the top 1%) for maybe 10g's. Not too big an investment. If that works, start buying in bulk, like his 100g packages. You don't want to be receiving constant shipments of goods, the higher the frequency of shipments, the more likely one could get intercepted, and now your secretly under surveillance.

Now as for the selling, do the same thing. Sell in bulk. Put a fucking layer or two of abstraction between you and the guy selling on the street. You literally want to become the Walter White of MDMA from Season 5 of breaking bad. Sell in Bulk, you are a distributor not a dealer. The more transactions you handle, the more possibilities that one goes wrong and you get taken down. You sell in minimum 10g quantities to your dealers. They don't sell directly to anyone, they distribute this again to another set of people. At this point, those people are the actual dealers on the street.

I can't stress enough how little you want to be actually dealing with drug addicts/junkies. Personal friends no problem, do not say one word to some guy fiending for a drug. EVER.

Also, don't buy pressed pills, you just add on a lazy tax for yourself. If you buy crystal/powder and invest just a bit in a capsule filler/empty capsules, you're profit margin will be a lot higher. Plus it seems to people that it's less likely that you cut it, what with that myth that pure molly comes in caps anyways.

+1 If i could very nice information.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on January 10, 2013, 04:14 am
it seems like all that ever goes around nowadays is methylone, or some other random cathinone capped up.
i want to supply my people with actual, legit mdma.
but i wish to sell it and make money off of it.
if i buy domestic, the profits will be minimal, so here's the question.
who in the united states buys mdma from out of the country?
who have you had success with? who has fair prices? who has legit mdma that i can pass around instead of this god damn methylone!
please help guise, i want to do this right.

Buy from Supertrips, he ships from Germany which is a better place to be receiving a package from in the states the than the NL. I haven't ordered from him personally(yet) but he is in the top 1% of sellers and offers a full refund/reship policy if your package is lost.

If i was in your position and i was selling, here's what i would do. First do a test buy from whoever, make sure his stealth packaging is good(I assume if its ST his is good, cause he's in the top 1%) for maybe 10g's. Not too big an investment. If that works, start buying in bulk, like his 100g packages. You don't want to be receiving constant shipments of goods, the higher the frequency of shipments, the more likely one could get intercepted, and now your secretly under surveillance.

Now as for the selling, do the same thing. Sell in bulk. Put a fucking layer or two of abstraction between you and the guy selling on the street. You literally want to become the Walter White of MDMA from Season 5 of breaking bad. Sell in Bulk, you are a distributor not a dealer. The more transactions you handle, the more possibilities that one goes wrong and you get taken down. You sell in minimum 10g quantities to your dealers. They don't sell directly to anyone, they distribute this again to another set of people. At this point, those people are the actual dealers on the street.

I can't stress enough how little you want to be actually dealing with drug addicts/junkies. Personal friends no problem, do not say one word to some guy fiending for a drug. EVER.

Also, don't buy pressed pills, you just add on a lazy tax for yourself. If you buy crystal/powder and invest just a bit in a capsule filler/empty capsules, you're profit margin will be a lot higher. Plus it seems to people that it's less likely that you cut it, what with that myth that pure molly comes in caps anyways.

+1 If i could very nice information.

The funny thing is that was just off the top of my head. Buy a burner cell that you contact your second level distributors at(you are the first level). Every time a deal goes down, TOSS IT. Never keep product in or near your home. Store it at a "friend's"(someone if they get busted, you won't give two shits about, and who doesn't know your real name.), or find a secure location to store it. You want it somewhere that if it's busted, you won't be there when it is, and if you show up and it has been, it's obvious that something is wrong/has changed.

I'd say set up a fake business, something that can remove personal liability. Remember what everyone on Silk Road tells you, NEVER say a word to the cops. the first thing that should come out of your mouth when you see one(besides if you get pulled over for a ticket) is" Am i under arrest, if not am i free to leave?"  The next words out of your mouth if a cop arrests you is "I want a lawyer and exercise my 5th amendment right against self incrimination". THEN YOU SAY NOTHING until your lawyer arrives. Anything you say to the cops can be used against you, never for you.



Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: XTC_EXPRESS on January 10, 2013, 04:25 am
If there's enough demand, (let me know via pm on the forum)
we could do a 3 day special of these skulls: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/197632fbdb

300 at $4 a pill, moving the volume quickly would be nice.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on January 10, 2013, 04:38 am
If there's enough demand, (let me know via pm on the forum)
we could do a 3 day special of these skulls: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/197632fbdb

300 at $4 a pill, moving the volume quickly would be nice.
thats around ~14$ a gram if i did my math correctly. Not bad for already pressed pills. I enjoy crushing the crystals and dosing my own however. But TBH, the deal he just offered would probably the cheapest bulk buy of mdma currently available on the road with dutch gone. XTCexpress about to become legend?

EDIT:XTC, i am actually just about to make a buy on about 10g's of mdma this week. Able to offer the same pricing for that amount? Shoot me a pm
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: XTC_EXPRESS on January 10, 2013, 04:45 am
If there's enough demand, (let me know via pm on the forum)
we could do a 3 day special of these skulls: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/197632fbdb

300 at $4 a pill, moving the volume quickly would be nice.
thats around ~14$ a gram if i did my math correctly. Not bad for already pressed pills. I enjoy crushing the crystals and dosing my own however. But TBH, the deal he just offered would probably the cheapest bulk buy of mdma currently available on the road with dutch gone. XTCexpress about to become legend?

EDIT:XTC, i am actually just about to make a buy on about 10g's of mdma this week. Able to offer the same pricing for that amount? Shoot me a pm

PM me on here when you're ready to buy we can work something out, 10g's is a little low for that offer.
However if people are worried about not receiving on a bulk order, we will be offering 100 % insurance on it, and also making the package much more stealth than usual.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Aurelius Venport on January 10, 2013, 04:53 am
If there's enough demand, (let me know via pm on the forum)
we could do a 3 day special of these skulls: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/197632fbdb

300 at $4 a pill, moving the volume quickly would be nice.

xpress i find your prices to be uncompetitive and thats the main reason i havent considered you even tho ur obv professional. seems like you cater to users which i understand. seeing this is good though i wasnt aware of other options. thx!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on January 10, 2013, 04:57 am
If there's enough demand, (let me know via pm on the forum)
we could do a 3 day special of these skulls: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/197632fbdb

300 at $4 a pill, moving the volume quickly would be nice.
thats around ~14$ a gram if i did my math correctly. Not bad for already pressed pills. I enjoy crushing the crystals and dosing my own however. But TBH, the deal he just offered would probably the cheapest bulk buy of mdma currently available on the road with dutch gone. XTCexpress about to become legend?

EDIT:XTC, i am actually just about to make a buy on about 10g's of mdma this week. Able to offer the same pricing for that amount? Shoot me a pm

PM me on here when you're ready to buy we can work something out, 10g's is a little low for that offer.
However if people are worried about not receiving on a bulk order, we will be offering 100 % insurance on it, and also making the package much more stealth than usual.

Yea i do realize that is very very low, was hoping take advantage of that pricing. However, like i said, i'd love to get something similar. I will probably order in  1-2 days, just pm me the price. I'd be quite happy to add to your obviously good reputation
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: XTC_EXPRESS on January 10, 2013, 05:00 am
If there's enough demand, (let me know via pm on the forum)
we could do a 3 day special of these skulls: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/197632fbdb

300 at $4 a pill, moving the volume quickly would be nice.

xpress i find your prices to be uncompetitive and thats the main reason i havent considered you even tho ur obv professional. seems like you cater to users which i understand. seeing this is good though i wasnt aware of other options. thx!

We understand that, that's why we are considering entering the bulk market now.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on January 10, 2013, 05:13 am
If there's enough demand, (let me know via pm on the forum)
we could do a 3 day special of these skulls: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/197632fbdb

300 at $4 a pill, moving the volume quickly would be nice.

xpress i find your prices to be uncompetitive and thats the main reason i havent considered you even tho ur obv professional. seems like you cater to users which i understand. seeing this is good though i wasnt aware of other options. thx!

We understand that, that's why we are considering entering the bulk market now.

i plan on buying 10 grams of mdma as well..
jesusofraves listings look very promising but i was very tempted by yours as well...

can you give me a reason to pick you over him?
(not trying to stir up drama)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: calicojak on January 10, 2013, 05:19 am
If there's enough demand, (let me know via pm on the forum)
we could do a 3 day special of these skulls: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/197632fbdb

300 at $4 a pill, moving the volume quickly would be nice.

xpress i find your prices to be uncompetitive and thats the main reason i havent considered you even tho ur obv professional. seems like you cater to users which i understand. seeing this is good though i wasnt aware of other options. thx!

We understand that, that's why we are considering entering the bulk market now.
Please do! I have ordered from you before(my very first SR purchase) and everything went so smooth I wouldn't hesitate to order from you again but l and lots others need bulk! Man if you started selling bulk that would be awesome! 8)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: DOCTORBOBBY on January 10, 2013, 09:20 am
If there's enough demand, (let me know via pm on the forum)
we could do a 3 day special of these skulls: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/197632fbdb

300 at $4 a pill, moving the volume quickly would be nice.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: DiamondSky on January 10, 2013, 09:26 am
For the xtc_express stuff you might want to hang out in this thread for a while before you start sending any coin:

 http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=103384.15
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Ikeepforgettingmyusername on January 10, 2013, 10:53 am
Trashbox? North Dakota? Jw. Small and party buses!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Ikeepforgettingmyusername on January 10, 2013, 10:55 am
In my area people hate paying more than $10 for an X pill. I wish I could sell em for 20-25...
I can sell them for $50 in my location. Pain pills is the go to though. p30s for 65, a rumor that 80 is paid, but I could never do that to someone, yuck.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on January 10, 2013, 11:43 am
For the xtc_express stuff you might want to hang out in this thread for a while before you start sending any coin:

 http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=103384.15
much appreciated
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on January 11, 2013, 07:13 pm
Quote from: dbz4u
Now as for the selling, do the same thing. Sell in bulk. Put a fucking layer or two of abstraction between you and the guy selling on the street. You literally want to become the Walter White of MDMA from Season 5 of breaking bad. Sell in Bulk, you are a distributor not a dealer. The more transactions you handle, the more possibilities that one goes wrong and you get taken down. You sell in minimum 10g quantities to your dealers. They don't sell directly to anyone, they distribute this again to another set of people. At this point, those people are the actual dealers on the street.

Bingo.  I started off selling individuals and if your product is consistently good then word of mouth will spread.  Each group of people who wants molly will naturally (you might need to direct them) to send one "delegate" to you who buys for the entire group.  Make sure this delegate is someone that you trust, and this way your transactions are in bulk and you have less points of contact.

It helps to be patient.  Even if pills sell for cheap where you are, word of mouth will eventually have people coming to you.  A lot of MDMA users don't want to have to worry about whether their pills will work when they've already paid for them and consumed them.  Peace of mind has financial value.

Other than that, don't look or act like a common criminal.  Be polite to people and dress relatively well so that you don't "look the part".  As for people only rolling once a month... it depends where you live.  Where I am (relatively large city with decent club scene) people are dumb enough to dose one night then again the next night.  I personally think they're idiots but I'm also laughing all the way to the bank =P
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Alpha77 on January 11, 2013, 07:45 pm
The MDMA vendors here are great but the problem is that i have no customer base for molly, it sucks... If i did would be making so much profit
Its not easy to find customers either... :/

That's been my problem too. If you're not in a large drug circle or not part of the molly scene it's pretty hard to unload the molly. The problem is where I live molly use just isn't wide spread probably because of the past MDMA shortages. Oxycodone seems to have replaced ecstasy pills, but for every free dose of molly I've given out, the person has become amazed by the drug and eager to experience MDMA again.

From what people have been telling me Music Festivals is the method to unload a large amount of molly. I've never been to an event, but I'm told people pretty much sell drugs openly inside the gates, some people go there for the main purpose of buying molly. I may try this with some SR moonrocks in the future, both to sell molly and get numbers of future prospective buyers.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on January 11, 2013, 08:10 pm
That's been my problem too. If you're not in a large drug circle or not part of the molly scene it's pretty hard to unload the molly. The problem is where I live molly use just isn't wide spread probably because of the past MDMA shortages. Oxycodone seems to have replaced ecstasy pills, but for every free dose of molly I've given out, the person has become amazed by the drug and eager to experience MDMA again.

And what sucks is that the prices for opiates (at least prescription painkillers) on SR aren't much better than on the street.  I wouldn't recommend selling opiates anyway because the risk that you'll get hooked yourself plus you'll be dealing with some desperate addicts.

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From what people have been telling me Music Festivals is the method to unload a large amount of molly. I've never been to an event, but I'm told people pretty much sell drugs openly inside the gates, some people go there for the main purpose of buying molly. I may try this with some SR moonrocks in the future, both to sell molly and get numbers of future prospective buyers.

For sure.  Cops typically don't even both going into the large crowds at music festivals / raves.  People will walk around literally saying "molly" out loud because they are looking to buy (although sometimes they are sellers themselves).  Once someone buys some from you then other people who happen to ask them can be forwarded your way as well.  Just make sure you hide your stuff to bring it in without issue and you may need some additional change depending on your price (this is why $20/pill is convenient for everyone).

As for moonrocks, I am assuming you mean you'll be crushing them up and encapsulating them first.  Buyers are impressed with the actual fat moonrocks but want their actual product in the crushed / capped form. 

I can't even start to imagine how much cash you could make at festivals like EDC, Coachella, Lollapalooza, Bonnaroo, Ultra Music Festival, and Electric Zoo.  The limit might realistically be a.) how much cash can you fit in your backpack / fanny pack or b.) how many pills can you physically sneak into the festival?  In fact I plan on doing just this at one or more of these festivals.  People at festivals are willing to pay premium too for convenience.  Same goes for local events / raves!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Aurelius Venport on January 11, 2013, 09:28 pm
The MDMA vendors here are great but the problem is that i have no customer base for molly, it sucks... If i did would be making so much profit
Its not easy to find customers either... :/

That's been my problem too. If you're not in a large drug circle or not part of the molly scene it's pretty hard to unload the molly. The problem is where I live molly use just isn't wide spread probably because of the past MDMA shortages. Oxycodone seems to have replaced ecstasy pills, but for every free dose of molly I've given out, the person has become amazed by the drug and eager to experience MDMA again.

From what people have been telling me Music Festivals is the method to unload a large amount of molly. I've never been to an event, but I'm told people pretty much sell drugs openly inside the gates, some people go there for the main purpose of buying molly. I may try this with some SR moonrocks in the future, both to sell molly and get numbers of future prospective buyers.

create the market and go to bars/nightclubs/raves duh
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on January 11, 2013, 10:41 pm
That's been my problem too. If you're not in a large drug circle or not part of the molly scene it's pretty hard to unload the molly. The problem is where I live molly use just isn't wide spread probably because of the past MDMA shortages. Oxycodone seems to have replaced ecstasy pills, but for every free dose of molly I've given out, the person has become amazed by the drug and eager to experience MDMA again.

And what sucks is that the prices for opiates (at least prescription painkillers) on SR aren't much better than on the street.  I wouldn't recommend selling opiates anyway because the risk that you'll get hooked yourself plus you'll be dealing with some desperate addicts.

Quote
From what people have been telling me Music Festivals is the method to unload a large amount of molly. I've never been to an event, but I'm told people pretty much sell drugs openly inside the gates, some people go there for the main purpose of buying molly. I may try this with some SR moonrocks in the future, both to sell molly and get numbers of future prospective buyers.

For sure.  Cops typically don't even both going into the large crowds at music festivals / raves.  People will walk around literally saying "molly" out loud because they are looking to buy (although sometimes they are sellers themselves).  Once someone buys some from you then other people who happen to ask them can be forwarded your way as well.  Just make sure you hide your stuff to bring it in without issue and you may need some additional change depending on your price (this is why $20/pill is convenient for everyone).

As for moonrocks, I am assuming you mean you'll be crushing them up and encapsulating them first.  Buyers are impressed with the actual fat moonrocks but want their actual product in the crushed / capped form. 

I can't even start to imagine how much cash you could make at festivals like EDC, Coachella, Lollapalooza, Bonnaroo, Ultra Music Festival, and Electric Zoo.  The limit might realistically be a.) how much cash can you fit in your backpack / fanny pack or b.) how many pills can you physically sneak into the festival?  In fact I plan on doing just this at one or more of these festivals.  People at festivals are willing to pay premium too for convenience.  Same goes for local events / raves!

We snuck joints into audiotistic by just cutting off the bottom of the plastic from a cigarette container. I'm talking the very very bottom. you want it open on the bottom so you can just slide it off, and load in whatever you want into the container. Then simply slide the top of the unopened looking plastic back on. The guy at the gate is gonna take a 5 second look at it and think you just have an unopened pack of cigarettes. That's how I'd get through
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on January 11, 2013, 11:59 pm
We snuck joints into audiotistic by just cutting off the bottom of the plastic from a cigarette container. I'm talking the very very bottom. you want it open on the bottom so you can just slide it off, and load in whatever you want into the container. Then simply slide the top of the unopened looking plastic back on. The guy at the gate is gonna take a 5 second look at it and think you just have an unopened pack of cigarettes. That's how I'd get through

Ya I feel like you have to be pretty lazy to not be able to sneak stuff in.  I usually sneak in caps of molly and it's usually in an average-sized plastic bag that goes right in between my balls and my thigh.  Gotta make sure they don't see you put it in there while in line.  No pat-down in the world will find that shit.

You gotta be decently-tight boxer briefs though (or tighty whities) otherwise you risk it falling out your pant leg.  And naturally I don't spread my legs very much when they ask...
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on January 12, 2013, 12:29 am
at electric forest i kept drugs in my shoe. of course you wouldnt be able to do that with a large amount but i mean if there is a will there is a way...

if i was going to sell mdma at a rave id probably only bring a gram already capped out in tenths.(would still use my shoe for that)
i would just get rid of it fast and enjoy the rest of the night =P
but those tend to be sketchy situations. i dont like to sell to strangers, id have other people do that for me  ::)

i think im going to go with jesus of rave's mdma, hes been a stellar dude to talk to so far and those prices are crazy!
i guess i will let you all know how it goes if you care to hear !

Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: energyimport on January 12, 2013, 01:48 am
at electric forest i kept drugs in my shoe. of course you wouldnt be able to do that with a large amount but i mean if there is a will there is a way...

if i was going to sell mdma at a rave id probably only bring a gram already capped out in tenths.(would still use my shoe for that)
i would just get rid of it fast and enjoy the rest of the night =P
but those tend to be sketchy situations. i dont like to sell to strangers, id have other people do that for me  ::)

i think im going to go with jesus of rave's mdma, hes been a stellar dude to talk to so far and those prices are crazy!
i guess i will let you all know how it goes if you care to hear !

EF was fucking epic every year even before it was EF. Such a good fucking time.!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on January 12, 2013, 01:51 am
at electric forest i kept drugs in my shoe. of course you wouldnt be able to do that with a large amount but i mean if there is a will there is a way...

if i was going to sell mdma at a rave id probably only bring a gram already capped out in tenths.(would still use my shoe for that)
i would just get rid of it fast and enjoy the rest of the night =P
but those tend to be sketchy situations. i dont like to sell to strangers, id have other people do that for me  ::)

i think im going to go with jesus of rave's mdma, hes been a stellar dude to talk to so far and those prices are crazy!
i guess i will let you all know how it goes if you care to hear !

EF was fucking epic every year even before it was EF. Such a good fucking time.!

yus.
was life changing for me no doubt!
and the community is fucking awesome. great vibes
shame most of the drugs were bunk =/
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: novakane on January 12, 2013, 02:10 am
mdma is easy to sell.  The market's there, you just have to find it and get sr quality into people's hands.  Sponsor a small party.  Throw out a few free grams throughout the night, and I guarantee everyone will want your number.

My problem in my area was turn-around time.  I could sell whatever quantity I bought from overseas and it'd be gone in a couple days, but then I'd have to wait another month for another shipment.  Depending on the baller-status of your lifestyle, all that profit could be gone by then.

As mentioned, LL from Canada's solid, as well many overseas vendors, if you still want to go the mdma route.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: energyimport on January 12, 2013, 06:39 am
at electric forest i kept drugs in my shoe. of course you wouldnt be able to do that with a large amount but i mean if there is a will there is a way...

if i was going to sell mdma at a rave id probably only bring a gram already capped out in tenths.(would still use my shoe for that)
i would just get rid of it fast and enjoy the rest of the night =P
but those tend to be sketchy situations. i dont like to sell to strangers, id have other people do that for me  ::)

i think im going to go with jesus of rave's mdma, hes been a stellar dude to talk to so far and those prices are crazy!
i guess i will let you all know how it goes if you care to hear !

EF was fucking epic every year even before it was EF. Such a good fucking time.!

yus.
was life changing for me no doubt!
and the community is fucking awesome. great vibes
shame most of the drugs were bunk =/


That sucks, You should of found my ass! Ill be in the vip tents cutting out lines of K for people for free! (its kind of a tradition lol)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on January 12, 2013, 07:27 pm
My problem in my area was turn-around time.  I could sell whatever quantity I bought from overseas and it'd be gone in a couple days, but then I'd have to wait another month for another shipment.  Depending on the baller-status of your lifestyle, all that profit could be gone by then.

Yep that supply chain is a fucking bitch at times.  Especially hard if you're trying to ramp up production / sales.  Cash flow becomes harder when your next batch costs almost twice as much as the current one.  Plus if you put all your eggs in one basket you're pretty much fucked.

Nothing a little patience and know-how can't take care of though.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on January 12, 2013, 10:07 pm
I can't even start to imagine how much cash you could make at festivals like EDC, Coachella, Lollapalooza, Bonnaroo, Ultra Music Festival, and Electric Zoo.  The limit might realistically be a.) how much cash can you fit in your backpack / fanny pack or b.) how many pills can you physically sneak into the festival?  In fact I plan on doing just this at one or more of these festivals.  People at festivals are willing to pay premium too for convenience.  Same goes for local events / raves!

I have never sold drugs to anybody directly at festivals.  About ten years ago I used to run a pretty good ring in the Chicago area.  I would always be at the places monitoring things.  I would have one person who was responsible for holding all the cash and drugs and I was the only one who knew who that was..  I would then have 5-10 runners would be disperse into the crowd, make friends, find buyers and move all of my product.  When they needed more we would have certain signals to indicate what was happening and where to meet.  Then I would go get whatever I needed from the stash guy, pass off to another person and tell him where to meet the guy that needed it.  If anyone were to ever get busted they would always have 10 or less pills on them and little cash.  This seemed to work out well and really protected me as I was never holding anything for more than a minute and would only give it to people that I picked out myselves to go meet up with the others.

I made a ton of money this way for a while but eventually started getting attention of some real gangsters and after several situations with close friends being held at gunpoint I gout out of the game.

The reason I quote the above passge is just to re-iterate the premium people are willing to pay at festivals.

Personally I stopped going to anything but WMC once I got a bit older - but over the last five years the minimum price per pill during WMC is $30 and people are slanging for $40 and $50 easily in many of the clubs there during the conference.  It is insanity.  One could make a KILLING with the right organization.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on January 13, 2013, 12:03 am
I can't even start to imagine how much cash you could make at festivals like EDC, Coachella, Lollapalooza, Bonnaroo, Ultra Music Festival, and Electric Zoo.  The limit might realistically be a.) how much cash can you fit in your backpack / fanny pack or b.) how many pills can you physically sneak into the festival?  In fact I plan on doing just this at one or more of these festivals.  People at festivals are willing to pay premium too for convenience.  Same goes for local events / raves!

I have never sold drugs to anybody directly at festivals.  About ten years ago I used to run a pretty good ring in the Chicago area.  I would always be at the places monitoring things.  I would have one person who was responsible for holding all the cash and drugs and I was the only one who knew who that was..  I would then have 5-10 runners would be disperse into the crowd, make friends, find buyers and move all of my product.  When they needed more we would have certain signals to indicate what was happening and where to meet.  Then I would go get whatever I needed from the stash guy, pass off to another person and tell him where to meet the guy that needed it.  If anyone were to ever get busted they would always have 10 or less pills on them and little cash.  This seemed to work out well and really protected me as I was never holding anything for more than a minute and would only give it to people that I picked out myselves to go meet up with the others.

I made a ton of money this way for a while but eventually started getting attention of some real gangsters and after several situations with close friends being held at gunpoint I gout out of the game.

The reason I quote the above passge is just to re-iterate the premium people are willing to pay at festivals.

Personally I stopped going to anything but WMC once I got a bit older - but over the last five years the minimum price per pill during WMC is $30 and people are slanging for $40 and $50 easily in many of the clubs there during the conference.  It is insanity.  One could make a KILLING with the right organization.

Indeed. You can make a killing especially in the U.S., what with all the street molly being fake. People getting real mdma where I'm from is almost unheard of. I asked like 5 of my friend earlier this year, the supply dried up around 2010-2011. The west coast is experiencing a dearth of product, anyone who is doing 100g packs would be a millionaire in a few months if you did it right
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: n1ll0 on January 13, 2013, 01:53 am
I made a ton of money this way for a while but eventually started getting attention of some real gangsters and after several situations with close friends being held at gunpoint I gout out of the game.

like i said... security precautions.. haha.. I just suggest having the security aspects on lock before moving large amounts in larger metro areas that are likely to have a more significant gang or organized crime activity..
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on January 13, 2013, 02:09 am
like i said... security precautions.. haha.. I just suggest having the security aspects on lock before moving large amounts in larger metro areas that are likely to have a more significant gang or organized crime activity..

It was not really organized crime that I ran into.  There are just thugs in every city and if they think they can make a big score by robbing someone they will try.  I have been in several seriously violent situations in my life and I used to carry a gun but I wasn't a killer.  After running into people who seemed more willing to cross that line I decided the game wasn't for me.  Also it always felt like fake money to me when I was making it.  I used to have rubberbanded wads of Gs in all of my drawers and I felt like a badass but I knew it wasn't  long term and didn't really consider it profit until I bought shit with it.  Truthfully, once I graduated college and got a real job at least I knew that money was real money and wasn't going to get stolen from me or taken by the cops if I got busted.

I think the reality is anytime you are moving lots of weight anywhere this is always a risk you have to be willing to accept.  What do you do when the gun gets pulled?  Until you start dealing with these situations it's all fun and games but they are bound to happen if you move enough weight for a long enough time because you always end up dealing with people you haven't known long enough to trust and there are so many shady people in the world.  I was eventually able to avoid most of these dangerous situations personally by removing myself from any deal that involved people I didn't know - but then the people that sold for me started getting held up or popped.

I guess if you have enough people around that you don't care about going to jail or getting hurt but still trust it could work.  Personally I felt too bad when I saw people go down that were "working" for me and eventually my conscience wouldn't let me continue so I got out and went straight.  And now I could never look back.  I got lucky in my career and could never come close to earning this much money by slanging drugs.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: n1ll0 on January 13, 2013, 02:27 am
Indeed! thanks for the insight :)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on January 13, 2013, 07:11 am
like i said... security precautions.. haha.. I just suggest having the security aspects on lock before moving large amounts in larger metro areas that are likely to have a more significant gang or organized crime activity..

It was not really organized crime that I ran into.  There are just thugs in every city and if they think they can make a big score by robbing someone they will try.  I have been in several seriously violent situations in my life and I used to carry a gun but I wasn't a killer.  After running into people who seemed more willing to cross that line I decided the game wasn't for me.  Also it always felt like fake money to me when I was making it.  I used to have rubberbanded wads of Gs in all of my drawers and I felt like a badass but I knew it wasn't  long term and didn't really consider it profit until I bought shit with it.  Truthfully, once I graduated college and got a real job at least I knew that money was real money and wasn't going to get stolen from me or taken by the cops if I got busted.

I think the reality is anytime you are moving lots of weight anywhere this is always a risk you have to be willing to accept.  What do you do when the gun gets pulled?  Until you start dealing with these situations it's all fun and games but they are bound to happen if you move enough weight for a long enough time because you always end up dealing with people you haven't known long enough to trust and there are so many shady people in the world.  I was eventually able to avoid most of these dangerous situations personally by removing myself from any deal that involved people I didn't know - but then the people that sold for me started getting held up or popped.

I guess if you have enough people around that you don't care about going to jail or getting hurt but still trust it could work.  Personally I felt too bad when I saw people go down that were "working" for me and eventually my conscience wouldn't let me continue so I got out and went straight.  And now I could never look back.  I got lucky in my career and could never come close to earning this much money by slanging drugs.

sorry bud you had no idea what you were doing.

I've been in the game for year and I don't deal with any of the nonsense you're talking about.

You say "eventually you deal with people you can't trust" and that said it all to me. You got greedy. This is not a big fun game where you run around parties with friends and make friends with strangers. I'm not surprised at all you you took. Not that it can't be done, but, you need to know what the fuck you're doing. I've worked the bars clubs etc and i've LOST COUNT of how many people / opportunities I've TURNED DOWN if I even had a smidget of doubt. About anything. The persons ability to handle themselves. Their intelligence. Their integrity. Once you've been in the game long enough you can take one look at a person and situation and just know. You have to have iron clad discipline and leave your greed at home. The thing is, the people that are good enough to make it in the game aren't in the game because theyre usually smart enough to do something else.

Precisely. Neither you nor anyone you know should be doing actual transactions like i said before. You are a distributor not a dealer, not a carter leader. You move product in bulk and that's IT. That is the smartest way to stay away from trouble. If you can make a deal for 10k, 20k from a 100 gram order from here, that is how you should do it. Not selling individual grams, that's how morons do it
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on January 13, 2013, 07:15 am
I didn't personally deal with people I couldn't trust anymore at the end like I said.  But in order to move a shitload of product you have three choices...

1) Meet with people you don't know well enough to trust
2) Have people underneath you meet with people they don't know well enough to trust.
3) Be high enough up the chain that you only sell massive quantity to a very small amount of people and have no idea whats happening down the chain

It is simply not possible to trust enough people directly to move massive weight.  How many people do you think you can really trust?  And getting to #3 is nearly impossible for almost everyone.  It means knowing people that have their own money to buy shit and not have to be fronting.  You basically have to build a big organization to get to that point.  I was always fronting and controlling everything but I always was impacted when shit happened down the chain.

I gave a shortened version of my story not fully explaining everything.  Most of the hold ups were not at club events.  They were typically afterwards when people dealing for me would meet up again with people they met at parties to sell larger quantities.  Yah most of the time these situations could be avoided but the way I saw it was just the price of getting bigger.  Maybe greedy.  Whatever you want to call it.  Everyone in the game is trying to make more money so I think greed is just a given.

In any event, I don't give a fuck about any of this anymore.  Drug money is so small compared to what you can make in the real world IME.

Peace.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on January 13, 2013, 07:24 am
I didn't personally deal with people I couldn't trust anymore at the end like I said.  But in order to move a shitload of product you have three choices...

1) Meet with people you don't know well enough to trust
2) Have people underneath you meet with people they don't know well enough to trust.
3) Be high enough up the chain that you only sell massive quantity to a very small amount of people and have no idea whats happening down the chain

It is simply not possible to trust enough people directly to move massive weight.  How many people do you think you can really trust?  And getting to #3 is nearly impossible for almost everyone.  It means knowing people that have their own money to buy shit and not have to be fronting.  You basically have to build a big organization to get to that point.  I was always fronting and controlling everything but I always was impacted when shit happened down the chain.

I gave a shortened version of my story not fully explaining everything.  Most of the hold ups were not at club events.  They were typically afterwards when people dealing for me would meet up again with people they met at parties to sell larger quantities.  Yah most of the time these situations could be avoided but the way I saw it was just the price of getting bigger.  Maybe greedy.  Whatever you want to call it.  Everyone in the game is trying to make more money so I think greed is just a given.

In any event, I don't give a fuck about any of this anymore.  Drug money is so small compared to what you can make in the real world IME.

Peace.

if not one transaction, as few as possible. I just mean, give yourself as few chances to get fucked over as possible
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Aurelius Venport on January 13, 2013, 07:27 am
he got greedy and paid the price period.

growth in this game happens over time slowly.

you wanna grow fast you gotta roll the dice.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on January 13, 2013, 07:36 pm
he got greedy and paid the price period.

growth in this game happens over time slowly.

you wanna grow fast you gotta roll the dice.

I agree with you here on your last statement  but I am not sure what you mean by I paid the price.  I exited the game with a healthy pocket of cash for me (at the time) after partying like a rockstar for a few straight years, with a college degree and only a tiny blemish on my record - assault charge that was dropped since I made sure the person didn't show up in court that day.

I am quite happy with how things turned out.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on January 14, 2013, 02:26 am
robberies = price

i think im going back on my purchase from jor for 14 gs... had someone tell me that it was more of a fine powder and when looked at at the right angle, you can see SOME crystals shining at you.
basically sounds like its cut... which is a shame because he is a great vendor...
but it should never take 4-5 tenths to get rolling.
if i get 200 mgs in my system at one time, i feel like my head is floating on top of a cloud.
shit that makes you think "there must be some trade off to this, this is too good!"
lol. so im down to supertrips, oldamsterdam, and xtc express.
any one have experience with all three? xD

Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on January 14, 2013, 04:40 am
If you need it quickly it seems lately that's not happening with SuperTrips.  Many claiming 30-50 day waits.  One user just claimed that he received 300 tabs less than he ordered in his package.  Some seem really happy though and say he is back on the up and up.

Both OldAmsterdam and XTCExpress seem to have better success rates just based on what I read in the forums.  Would definitely be where I would put my money if I were thinking of importing.

Last note regarding robberies - it wasn't me that was ever robbed.  Just people who sold for me.  I never lost money personally but had to help the people out getting their feet back on the ground afterwards.  The violent situations I was involved in were corrective actions taken against people who wronged those...   Maybe I trusted dumb people and that's why they got into those situations.  Maybe it was greed.  Who knows.  I am still happy with how it all turned out.

Good luck all!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on January 14, 2013, 05:32 am
If you need it quickly it seems lately that's not happening with SuperTrips.  Many claiming 30-50 day waits.  One user just claimed that he received 300 tabs less than he ordered in his package.  Some seem really happy though and say he is back on the up and up.

Both OldAmsterdam and XTCExpress seem to have better success rates just based on what I read in the forums.  Would definitely be where I would put my money if I were thinking of importing.

Last note regarding robberies - it wasn't me that was ever robbed.  Just people who sold for me.  I never lost money personally but had to help the people out getting their feet back on the ground afterwards.  The violent situations I was involved in were corrective actions taken against people who wronged those...   Maybe I trusted dumb people and that's why they got into those situations.  Maybe it was greed.  Who knows.  I am still happy with how it all turned out.

Good luck all!

Just placed a 10g order with XTC. Expecting greatness. He's the last bulk vendor for mdma that's under 400 for 10g's with no FE.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dead salmon on February 16, 2013, 04:08 am
I think to be safe only do the largest bulk quantities you can.  Sure you may be able to make $80 to $100 profit off a single gram if selling in individual doses, but would that be worth the added risk of dealing with +10 times more people?
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on February 16, 2013, 04:17 am
Hey OP. Its not that the US has bogus MDMA going around, not on the east coast anyway. What you can bank on though, is never ever getting pure MDMA, its alwayss always, hit hard, with either amphetamines, methamphetamine's, or a slue of other substances like caffeine powder, k or 2c-b. Which in many instances  makes for an awesome roll, whenn there is infact a sizable dose of real MDMA in it.

 My suggestion would be to buy from w.e vendor you feel comfy with, domestic or not, and just cap up pure MDMA, do like 120-160 mg caps. Throw the first few out for free, to people that know their shit, and have money. You will not lose. Now you may not make your $ 30 times over like others have said and try to do, but I assure you, your business will boom.. No one caps up PURE MDMA on the street. So you do it, and you will corner your local Mandy market.

Shit i just capped up 20 for short sale, 110mg MDMA(cousinfrank)+10mg Meth(hammertime)+20mg K(cousinfrank). My locals love it. Much love dude.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 16, 2013, 04:57 am
Hey OP. Its not that the US has bogus MDMA going around, not on the east coast anyway. What you can bank on though, is never ever getting pure MDMA, its alwayss always, hit hard, with either amphetamines, methamphetamine's, or a slue of other substances like caffeine powder, k or 2c-b. Which in many instances  makes for an awesome roll, whenn there is infact a sizable dose of real MDMA in it.

 My suggestion would be to buy from w.e vendor you feel comfy with, domestic or not, and just cap up pure MDMA, do like 120-160 mg caps. Throw the first few out for free, to people that know their shit, and have money. You will not lose. Now you may not make your $ 30 times over like others have said and try to do, but I assure you, your business will boom.. No one caps up PURE MDMA on the street. So you do it, and you will corner your local Mandy market.

Shit i just capped up 20 for short sale, 110mg MDMA(cousinfrank)+10mg Meth(hammertime)+20mg K(cousinfrank). My locals love it. Much love dude.

Hey could you give me a lil capping guide here? I've got size 0 pills and i want to cap some, but the method i devised is so pitiful i don't even want to repeat it here.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: treebeard on February 16, 2013, 10:07 am
I've been in the game for years and I don't deal with any of the nonsense you're talking about. When I was first starting out I went under the wing of some pros / career types and they set me in the right direction.

You say "eventually you deal with people you can't trust" and that said it all to me. You got greedy. This is not a big fun game where you run around parties with friends and make friends with strangers. I'm not surprised at all you you took. Not that it can't be done, but, you need to know what the fuck you're doing. I've worked the bars clubs etc and i've LOST COUNT of how many people / opportunities I've TURNED DOWN if I even had a smidget of doubt. About anything. The persons ability to handle themselves. Their intelligence. Their integrity. Once you've been in the game long enough you can take one look at a person and situation and just know. You have to have iron clad discipline and leave your greed at home. The thing is, the people that are good enough to make it in the game aren't in the game because theyre usually smart enough to do something else.

Hey OP. Its not that the US has bogus MDMA going around, not on the east coast anyway. What you can bank on though, is never ever getting pure MDMA, its alwayss always, hit hard, with either amphetamines, methamphetamine's, or a slue of other substances like caffeine powder, k or 2c-b. Which in many instances  makes for an awesome roll, whenn there is infact a sizable dose of real MDMA in it.

 My suggestion would be to buy from w.e vendor you feel comfy with, domestic or not, and just cap up pure MDMA, do like 120-160 mg caps. Throw the first few out for free, to people that know their shit, and have money. You will not lose. Now you may not make your $ 30 times over like others have said and try to do, but I assure you, your business will boom.. No one caps up PURE MDMA on the street. So you do it, and you will corner your local Mandy market.

Shit i just capped up 20 for short sale, 110mg MDMA(cousinfrank)+10mg Meth(hammertime)+20mg K(cousinfrank). My locals love it. Much love dude.

some wise words being spoke here.  good thread
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on February 16, 2013, 01:08 pm
Hey OP. Its not that the US has bogus MDMA going around, not on the east coast anyway. What you can bank on though, is never ever getting pure MDMA, its alwayss always, hit hard, with either amphetamines, methamphetamine's, or a slue of other substances like caffeine powder, k or 2c-b. Which in many instances  makes for an awesome roll, whenn there is infact a sizable dose of real MDMA in it.

 My suggestion would be to buy from w.e vendor you feel comfy with, domestic or not, and just cap up pure MDMA, do like 120-160 mg caps. Throw the first few out for free, to people that know their shit, and have money. You will not lose. Now you may not make your $ 30 times over like others have said and try to do, but I assure you, your business will boom.. No one caps up PURE MDMA on the street. So you do it, and you will corner your local Mandy market.

Shit i just capped up 20 for short sale, 110mg MDMA(cousinfrank)+10mg Meth(hammertime)+20mg K(cousinfrank). My locals love it. Much love dude.

Hey could you give me a lil capping guide here? I've got size 0 pills and i want to cap some, but the method i devised is so pitiful i don't even want to repeat it here.

Yeah capping 50g+ can definitely be a bitch.  I have a close friend who is strapped for cash (he's a student) so I pay him $.50 per pill that he caps.  He can literally make $50+ per hour but even he gets burnt out after the first 100.  And then I have another ~400 caps to do and sometimes I have to step in and do 100-200 caps myself because he gets burnt out.  It's sad because when I step in I get a lot done (100-200) in a one or two hour session.  I can't have a huge pile of 50g or so of MDMA sand just sitting in my living room for several days a time... it's way too obvious and foolish and asking for trouble.

If I find some people willing to buy 10g at a time or so without me having to cap them (ie they cap themselves) then that'd be ideal.  It seems like bottom line is you don't want your major stashes in your place for any considerable amount of time.

Just my .02.  And I agree the best way to do it is sell in bulk to a few people you feel are trustworthy and generally give them as little info about where you get it from, where you hide your stash, and so on.

It just sucks that we even had to deal with this sort of this, the war on drugs is around every corner looking to bust good people like us (I'm assuming most of you are stand-up citizens) and ruin our entire lives.  I think once I have the cash I am going to invest in some cameras around my apartment (with audio) like near the front door and all major rooms.  If cops bust your place and you have more or less hidden cameras then they are very likely to do their raid incorrectly and if you have a lawyer your case with get dropped.  Getting that camera system might be a bitch though since you'll probably have to keep a server in your apartment and you can only hope that they don't try to seize those hard drives.  Makes you wonder if you can stream and load video segments to the cloud where LE can't really confiscate it.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: moneybagzzz on February 16, 2013, 05:04 pm
The MDMA vendors here are great but the problem is that i have no customer base for molly, it sucks... If i did would be making so much profit
Its not easy to find customers either... :/

That's been my problem too. If you're not in a large drug circle or not part of the molly scene it's pretty hard to unload the molly. The problem is where I live molly use just isn't wide spread probably because of the past MDMA shortages. Oxycodone seems to have replaced ecstasy pills, but for every free dose of molly I've given out, the person has become amazed by the drug and eager to experience MDMA again.

From what people have been telling me Music Festivals is the method to unload a large amount of molly. I've never been to an event, but I'm told people pretty much sell drugs openly inside the gates, some people go there for the main purpose of buying molly. I may try this with some SR moonrocks in the future, both to sell molly and get numbers of future prospective buyers.

I get some molle to sell here to close friends when we go party and shit. I sold once at a club. Gave these 3 black guys 140-150mg each in a pill. They followed me and my roommate out of the club bout 2 hrs later and gave me their phone number. He sells cut shit but they were lite off my molle. So now they are ordering quater kilos of methylone and mdma off me through this site. Making 2-5grand off each purchase and never have to see the drugs.. soo nice
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: SouthSquareBiz on February 16, 2013, 07:50 pm
it seems like all that ever goes around nowadays is methylone, or some other random cathinone capped up.
i want to supply my people with actual, legit mdma.
but i wish to sell it and make money off of it.
if i buy domestic, the profits will be minimal, so here's the question.
who in the united states buys mdma from out of the country?
who have you had success with? who has fair prices? who has legit mdma that i can pass around instead of this god damn methylone!
please help guise, i want to do this right.

Hey, wavelength.

Well, first of all, I did a PR campaign. I let my customer base know that I have the purest form of MDMA, not pills, straight crystals. It's the "new" thing.

At the time, I was dealing with P.F. Highlander. Great, great vendor by the way and Cloudsurfer. He made me a legend in my circle. Now, yeah, shipping times can be a little longer than domestic but their quality of product was undeniable and got my customers noses wide open.

Well, had a shipment that didn't make it from CS. Hey, that's part of the business and PF just went straight out of business, so I was stuck.

Luckily, a handful of decent American vendors suddenly showed up at the change of the year. I have used one so far, but have great communication with about three of them.

You have to work The Road, everyday, in my opinion. I spend all my time learning how to search/source on The Road and I don't look for pills. Yeah, they're cute, but this is a business. I prefer pure MDMA. I can test and know what I'm getting.

Try out that method.

I mostly just sell to my friends now but sometimes im curious how some people make money off of pills.  Since some pills for example partyflocks cost around 9-10 dollars a piece do you charge 20 or 30 a piece in the states.  I find buying molly and selling caps means more money for me in the end.  I can see major profit if you buy bulk if you can afford it like supertrips 100xGreen Question marks for $4.60 a piece and sell each for $15 or $20 a pop.  I'm new to the game and like the OP i want to spread the love of real mdma not pipes or methylone instead but wouldnt mind expanding and spreading said product in my area.  Most events i go to im said only dealer there and run out of product pretty quickly but was just wondering on whats a fair deal to myself and my customers.   $10 a point or let my product speak for itself and give a few freebies away like some professional vendors here do.

I suggest gunning for real MDMA OR get your pills out for $20 a pop. That's what they go for, mostly. Getting for $10 MAX, flip 'em for $20. Hell, good volume, and they can go for $15. That's what they go for, they can take it or leave it. Trust me, if it's good (and it is), then they're taking it, and they're telling their friends to take it, and before you know it, you can't stop them from calling.

I live on the west coast of the US and for the past five months have been buying pressed pills from SR and selling them locally.  It's been real hit and miss.  Guys like BeansUSA and BrPower have delivered but then I'd turn around and get burned by F16 or CookieClub and suddenly ... all the profits that I've earned are gone.  Why not just fid one reliable vender and stick with him?  Wish I could.  I'll have success buying 150 partyflocks from BrPower but when I return a few weeks later to buy more he's sold out and has no listings avail.  So then I'll buy from BeansUSA and a few weeks later... same result.  He's shut down.  Which then forces me to have to try yet another vendor. 

Also, I'm sorry, but the shipping time will absolutely impact you if you're trying to get a legitimate business going.  After spending six weeks getting the word out that you've got product, you finally start getting the phone to ring consistently only to have to tell them "Sorry.  Sold out.  When's my next shipment?  I dunno...could be tomorrow... could be thirty days from now.".  Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in your customers.

I wish to God I could find someone local, someone in the Los Angeles area that I could do business with.  But as you've surmised... the local people want you to pay $12 to $15 for a pill... even when you're ordering bulk.  And there's simply no room for profit with that kind of arrangement.

You summed up my life on here, with the crystals, perfectly. Shipping time from overseas is CRITICAL. It can MAKE or BREAK your business. The good thing is, though, more domestic vendors are carrying pills and crystals for domestic distribution. You just have to stay on the hunt and catch the vendor EARLY.

yeeah .. it  seems like there is actually quite a bit of an opportunity in most places in the US to make a significant profit, assuming you are able to find a reliable vendor with quality product. I don't even know if I could find molly locally and pressed pills are usually 50/50 methylone and still expensive as shit (~20 to 25 a pill). The only thing I would be worried about is stepping on the toes of local distribution networks. The weed market has generally been taken over by local home growers producing quality herb (also by MMJ distributors), but im pretty sure that MDMA production as well as the higher level distribution is still cornered by organized crime (gangs, cartels, etc). I could be way off base on this as this is really just speculation on my part, but I would make sure you have your ass covered with regard to safety precautions. If you start moving a significant quantity of high quality, cheap MDMA, you're going to take a significant share of the market in your area and are muuuch more likely to pop up on SOMEONES radar.

 ;DTrust me, I am laughing with you! Look, it's speculation. You have to be making "quite" a bit of spare change for organized cartels to come after you for stepping son someone's feet. Trust me, I worked/partied during one of the highest known crime syndicates in modern history, and everyone I rolled with got a chance to eat. You have to making millions, from what I have experienced and observed, for anyone to even remotely approach you. Put it to you this way, I've seen guys make $10 to $12 grand in any given month, visible to competition, and never get touched. Hell, if you are smart, you will follow up with and approach anyone who "see's" what you are doing and build an alliance with them. You mean to tell me their connect is better than The Road? One thing I love about The Road, is that it has turned the paradigm of vending and distributing on it's ear. Guys that are just used to being street, no longer going to be able to compete.

The MDMA vendors here are great but the problem is that i have no customer base for molly, it sucks... If i did would be making so much profit
Its not easy to find customers either... :/

I am probably not the best person to answer this question. A previous customer base for another product helps, HOWEVER, really take a look at your friends, associates, and co-workers. Who clubs, who lounges, who raves, WHO GOES TO COLLEGE? Don't be in a rush, get trusted referrals, and before you know it you will be one of the customers on here complaining about vendors on The Road not being able to keep up with your demand.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 16, 2013, 09:47 pm
Hey OP. Its not that the US has bogus MDMA going around, not on the east coast anyway. What you can bank on though, is never ever getting pure MDMA, its alwayss always, hit hard, with either amphetamines, methamphetamine's, or a slue of other substances like caffeine powder, k or 2c-b. Which in many instances  makes for an awesome roll, whenn there is infact a sizable dose of real MDMA in it.

 My suggestion would be to buy from w.e vendor you feel comfy with, domestic or not, and just cap up pure MDMA, do like 120-160 mg caps. Throw the first few out for free, to people that know their shit, and have money. You will not lose. Now you may not make your $ 30 times over like others have said and try to do, but I assure you, your business will boom.. No one caps up PURE MDMA on the street. So you do it, and you will corner your local Mandy market.

Shit i just capped up 20 for short sale, 110mg MDMA(cousinfrank)+10mg Meth(hammertime)+20mg K(cousinfrank). My locals love it. Much love dude.

Hey could you give me a lil capping guide here? I've got size 0 pills and i want to cap some, but the method i devised is so pitiful i don't even want to repeat it here.

Yeah capping 50g+ can definitely be a bitch.  I have a close friend who is strapped for cash (he's a student) so I pay him $.50 per pill that he caps.  He can literally make $50+ per hour but even he gets burnt out after the first 100.  And then I have another ~400 caps to do and sometimes I have to step in and do 100-200 caps myself because he gets burnt out.  It's sad because when I step in I get a lot done (100-200) in a one or two hour session.  I can't have a huge pile of 50g or so of MDMA sand just sitting in my living room for several days a time... it's way too obvious and foolish and asking for trouble.

If I find some people willing to buy 10g at a time or so without me having to cap them (ie they cap themselves) then that'd be ideal.  It seems like bottom line is you don't want your major stashes in your place for any considerable amount of time.

Just my .02.  And I agree the best way to do it is sell in bulk to a few people you feel are trustworthy and generally give them as little info about where you get it from, where you hide your stash, and so on.

It just sucks that we even had to deal with this sort of this, the war on drugs is around every corner looking to bust good people like us (I'm assuming most of you are stand-up citizens) and ruin our entire lives.  I think once I have the cash I am going to invest in some cameras around my apartment (with audio) like near the front door and all major rooms.  If cops bust your place and you have more or less hidden cameras then they are very likely to do their raid incorrectly and if you have a lawyer your case with get dropped.  Getting that camera system might be a bitch though since you'll probably have to keep a server in your apartment and you can only hope that they don't try to seize those hard drives.  Makes you wonder if you can stream and load video segments to the cloud where LE can't really confiscate it.

You did everything in the comment EXCEPT tell me how to cap the pills hahahahaha

But yea i still have like 4 grams of molly i need to get into the caps, and the way I've been doing it(Lolz incoming), is puttin a lil molly on a plate and then using a butter knife to scoup it into the pill. Gotta say, lowest tech and super low effectiveness. Plus i feel like a retard using a butter knife. Any slightly less stupid ways to get em into pills?
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: calicojak on February 16, 2013, 10:03 pm
If you got a deck of cards use a card.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on February 17, 2013, 01:31 am
The MDMA vendors here are great but the problem is that i have no customer base for molly, it sucks... If i did would be making so much profit
Its not easy to find customers either... :/

That's been my problem too. If you're not in a large drug circle or not part of the molly scene it's pretty hard to unload the molly. The problem is where I live molly use just isn't wide spread probably because of the past MDMA shortages. Oxycodone seems to have replaced ecstasy pills, but for every free dose of molly I've given out, the person has become amazed by the drug and eager to experience MDMA again.

From what people have been telling me Music Festivals is the method to unload a large amount of molly. I've never been to an event, but I'm told people pretty much sell drugs openly inside the gates, some people go there for the main purpose of buying molly. I may try this with some SR moonrocks in the future, both to sell molly and get numbers of future prospective buyers.

I get some molle to sell here to close friends when we go party and shit. I sold once at a club. Gave these 3 black guys 140-150mg each in a pill. They followed me and my roommate out of the club bout 2 hrs later and gave me their phone number. He sells cut shit but they were lite off my molle. So now they are ordering quater kilos of methylone and mdma off me through this site. Making 2-5grand off each purchase and never have to see the drugs.. soo nice

Sounds like you hit the jackpot.  It'd be nice to receive my MDMA and not even have to pill it... just hand off the sand or moonrocks to them without even having to break the vacuum seal.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Martian313 on February 17, 2013, 04:38 am
Hey OP. Its not that the US has bogus MDMA going around, not on the east coast anyway. What you can bank on though, is never ever getting pure MDMA, its alwayss always, hit hard, with either amphetamines, methamphetamine's, or a slue of other substances like caffeine powder, k or 2c-b. Which in many instances  makes for an awesome roll, whenn there is infact a sizable dose of real MDMA in it.

 My suggestion would be to buy from w.e vendor you feel comfy with, domestic or not, and just cap up pure MDMA, do like 120-160 mg caps. Throw the first few out for free, to people that know their shit, and have money. You will not lose. Now you may not make your $ 30 times over like others have said and try to do, but I assure you, your business will boom.. No one caps up PURE MDMA on the street. So you do it, and you will corner your local Mandy market.

Shit i just capped up 20 for short sale, 110mg MDMA(cousinfrank)+10mg Meth(hammertime)+20mg K(cousinfrank). My locals love it. Much love dude.

Hey could you give me a lil capping guide here? I've got size 0 pills and i want to cap some, but the method i devised is so pitiful i don't even want to repeat it here.

Yeah capping 50g+ can definitely be a bitch.  I have a close friend who is strapped for cash (he's a student) so I pay him $.50 per pill that he caps.  He can literally make $50+ per hour but even he gets burnt out after the first 100.  And then I have another ~400 caps to do and sometimes I have to step in and do 100-200 caps myself because he gets burnt out.  It's sad because when I step in I get a lot done (100-200) in a one or two hour session.  I can't have a huge pile of 50g or so of MDMA sand just sitting in my living room for several days a time... it's way too obvious and foolish and asking for trouble.

If I find some people willing to buy 10g at a time or so without me having to cap them (ie they cap themselves) then that'd be ideal.  It seems like bottom line is you don't want your major stashes in your place for any considerable amount of time.

Just my .02.  And I agree the best way to do it is sell in bulk to a few people you feel are trustworthy and generally give them as little info about where you get it from, where you hide your stash, and so on.

It just sucks that we even had to deal with this sort of this, the war on drugs is around every corner looking to bust good people like us (I'm assuming most of you are stand-up citizens) and ruin our entire lives.  I think once I have the cash I am going to invest in some cameras around my apartment (with audio) like near the front door and all major rooms.  If cops bust your place and you have more or less hidden cameras then they are very likely to do their raid incorrectly and if you have a lawyer your case with get dropped.  Getting that camera system might be a bitch though since you'll probably have to keep a server in your apartment and you can only hope that they don't try to seize those hard drives.  Makes you wonder if you can stream and load video segments to the cloud where LE can't really confiscate it.

You did everything in the comment EXCEPT tell me how to cap the pills hahahahaha

But yea i still have like 4 grams of molly i need to get into the caps, and the way I've been doing it(Lolz incoming), is puttin a lil molly on a plate and then using a butter knife to scoup it into the pill. Gotta say, lowest tech and super low effectiveness. Plus i feel like a retard using a butter knife. Any slightly less stupid ways to get em into pills?

cut a circle out of paper, cut a slit in it and make a cone.  make the small end just big enough to fit inside the cap.  weigh, drop in the cone, shake it and make it snow. 
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on February 17, 2013, 06:33 am
Hey OP. Its not that the US has bogus MDMA going around, not on the east coast anyway. What you can bank on though, is never ever getting pure MDMA, its alwayss always, hit hard, with either amphetamines, methamphetamine's, or a slue of other substances like caffeine powder, k or 2c-b. Which in many instances  makes for an awesome roll, whenn there is infact a sizable dose of real MDMA in it.

 My suggestion would be to buy from w.e vendor you feel comfy with, domestic or not, and just cap up pure MDMA, do like 120-160 mg caps. Throw the first few out for free, to people that know their shit, and have money. You will not lose. Now you may not make your $ 30 times over like others have said and try to do, but I assure you, your business will boom.. No one caps up PURE MDMA on the street. So you do it, and you will corner your local Mandy market.

Shit i just capped up 20 for short sale, 110mg MDMA(cousinfrank)+10mg Meth(hammertime)+20mg K(cousinfrank). My locals love it. Much love dude.

Hey could you give me a lil capping guide here? I've got size 0 pills and i want to cap some, but the method i devised is so pitiful i don't even want to repeat it here.

Well capping pills isnt really my area of expertise, but I can tell you how I do it, maybe it will shed some light.

First you have to do all your math, this is only if your making custom or special rolls. Like i mentioned with the K , meth and 2c-b.

 For example, 1 gram of mdma, 200mg meth and 200mg of K. Will net you 10 caps @140mg each. Thats 100mg mdma,20mg meth and 20mg K per roll. Make all the proper measurements, and put it all in one bag. Be sure to spend enough time mixing it all together good.  Be very diligent. You want that mix as consistent as possible, so be sure to crush and dust all that shit together and shake it up real good.

 Then I like to use a drinking straw, that you cut on a 45* angle, to scoop from the bag to the cap. A typical fast food chain drinking straw should fit perfectly in a size 0 cap. Mine happened to be from TacoHell. Then throw your cap on the scale, tare the .1 that the cap weighs, and the rest is self explanatory.

 Now im sure there is other things you can do to make this more efficient. Such as some how fucking with the straw , enabling it to have a max capacity of your exact measurement needed. Then if that can be done, you can get or make some sort of tray to set all the opened caps in individual little sleeves to speed the process up and be able to get more done in less time.

 Hope that helped dude, good luck. Much love     
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on February 17, 2013, 06:37 am
As for those of you who find it hard to get custys, all you have to do is pass out a free dose or two to the right people. When you have the right shit, the product will always do the work for you.

 I gave a friend one of the caps I did last night, he weighs 200+lbs and rolled balls for like 7+ hours! He said that "any one not wanting to pay 20 bucks for one of those is a moron" lol. Good luck guys.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: White 0ut on February 17, 2013, 07:21 am
Where do you guys buy your empty caps at? I am considering getting 5 grams from Powerade and putting them into 120mg tabs for around 8-- profit. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 17, 2013, 07:27 am
I tried the straw method and lucky that i used a clear straw, because that method is totally inefficient. It gets stuck on the inside of the straw, you're actually losing molly if you do it that way :(. I can't really think of anything more creative, i obviously want some sort of funnel which the powder won't stick too. The question is what to use that fits a size 0 cap
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 17, 2013, 07:28 am
Where do you guys buy your empty caps at? I am considering getting 5 grams from Powerade and putting them into 120mg tabs for around 8-- profit. Any suggestions?

If you have it in the U.S. where you live(if you even live in the U.S.), "The Vitamin Shoppe" has em, you can just walk in get like a hundred caps for 5 bucks. Otherwise just order on amazon you can get like 1k for the same price
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: White 0ut on February 17, 2013, 07:36 am
Hmmm so the  way you guys do it is get 5-10 g's, get your customer base, then cap up 120mg per cap, then just sell @20-25 a roll? Then keep profit, rinse, repeat?
Who is the cheapest/quality/stealthiest/fastest vendor? Opinions? I know this isn't a easy 1 answer. Preferred USA domestic but if cheap enough then non domestic is fine. I have 25 Hearts coming from XTCEXRESS currently...
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 17, 2013, 07:44 am
Hmmm so the  way you guys do it is get 5-10 g's, get your customer base, then cap up 120mg per cap, then just sell @20-25 a roll? Then keep profit, rinse, repeat?
Who is the cheapest/quality/stealthiest/fastest vendor? Opinions? I know this isn't a easy 1 answer. Preferred USA domestic but if cheap enough then non domestic is fine. I have 25 Hearts coming from XTCEXRESS currently...

Well i ordered 10g from XTCexpress for just me and a friend, his got there in around 10-11 days from the ship date. He is nice, however he does a few annoying things. 1. He always has an annoying header in his messages(in the actual message body), that by the 4th time you message him it almost feels a tinge patronizing, and he only responds with 1-2 sentences pretty much always. However, i had no other issues, shipping time was as expected for int. shipping(i guess, I'm just an anxious fuck). Packaging was good, nice tan color. He went .1 over. He's the only main bulk dealer(aside from JOR i think, correct me if I'm wrong), that never has FE EVER., with 10g prices under 400
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 17, 2013, 09:53 am
Yea aure, you have any idea what i can use as a nonstick funnel for size 0's?
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on February 17, 2013, 06:13 pm
lol well because my thread got brought back to life i guess ill say the best advice i have on capping things out.

i got some of ilfs mda and sold that and it went VERY fast, even though i was doing 20 a tenth/15 for my friends.

as far as capping went, i just weighed out one tenth, got a good idea of what it looked like, and put it in a capsule so i could see how full it was.

after that, i capped out the other 30 or so all by eye, making sure that they all had about what they should have (give or take the slightest bit, didnt matter. everyone that took it got faced of one cap regardless of how full it was)

i did it by just emptying out the pile of mda, and just scooping up the mda into the cap and checking to make sure there was enough.

of course as a customer i would rather people weigh each tenth but like i said, noone had anything even remotely negative to say about it.
it was probably the most legit shit most of them had EVER taken lol.

but yeah with my first test run on selling molly here in the us, shit is a cake walk.

let a few "experienced" people try it, and everyone else will listen to them when they talk about how legit it is.(every drug dealer will say they have "the best ever" ,you need someone who isnt a part of the operation to vouch for your product)

even at the prices i had, it started out very slow until a few people gave it a whirl, once that happened it was gone before i could blink an eye...  ;)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on February 17, 2013, 06:23 pm
The straw method if fine if you just tap the top end of it into the cap. Did i mention not to use the entire straw but only about 3 inches of it.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 18, 2013, 09:33 am
Did i mention not to use the entire straw but only about 3 inches of it.

Ah now there is the key piece of missing information for that strategy. Any idea's on a decent funnel(aside from paper of course, i was hoping for something solid)?
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on February 19, 2013, 12:44 am
Did i mention not to use the entire straw but only about 3 inches of it.

Ah now there is the key piece of missing information for that strategy. Any idea's on a decent funnel(aside from paper of course, i was hoping for something solid)?

I apologize for my lack of information there dbz. As for as a funnel goes, try some thing that like a piece of a magazine cover or something. Ultimately I think scooping and dropping is more efficient than trying to funnel it into the caps. I can only imagine that the consistency of the MDMA will prevent it from funneling down through a small opening.

 Often times when you buy certain scales they come with little instruments, such as a small cup with a spout and a small scooping spoon. Maybe you can look for some cocaine paraphernalia online some where, those little coke spoons work great. Good luck.   
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 19, 2013, 12:46 am
Did i mention not to use the entire straw but only about 3 inches of it.

Ah now there is the key piece of missing information for that strategy. Any idea's on a decent funnel(aside from paper of course, i was hoping for something solid)?

I apologize for my lack of information there dbz. As for as a funnel goes, try some thing that like a piece of a magazine cover or something. Ultimately I think scooping and dropping is more efficient than trying to funnel it into the caps. I can only imagine that the consistency of the MDMA will prevent it from funneling down through a small opening.

 Often times when you buy certain scales they come with little instruments, such as a small cup with a spout and a small scooping spoon. Maybe you can look for some cocaine paraphernalia online some where, those little coke spoons work great. Good luck.   

Hey i just had a idea, how well do you think a teaspoon would work? That seems like a good scooping tool for this
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on February 19, 2013, 01:02 am
Did i mention not to use the entire straw but only about 3 inches of it.

Ah now there is the key piece of missing information for that strategy. Any idea's on a decent funnel(aside from paper of course, i was hoping for something solid)?

I apologize for my lack of information there dbz. As for as a funnel goes, try some thing that like a piece of a magazine cover or something. Ultimately I think scooping and dropping is more efficient than trying to funnel it into the caps. I can only imagine that the consistency of the MDMA will prevent it from funneling down through a small opening.

 Often times when you buy certain scales they come with little instruments, such as a small cup with a spout and a small scooping spoon. Maybe you can look for some cocaine paraphernalia online some where, those little coke spoons work great. Good luck.   

Hey i just had a idea, how well do you think a teaspoon would work? That seems like a good scooping tool for this

Well A teaspoon would be fine for moving around the lot of it, but there is now way you can cap up with any kind of kitchen utensil. Mayybee if you had some kind of baby spoon, I have a silver baby spoon that I use when im doing bumps of k or blow, but even the smallest kitchen spoon ive ever seen will not cut it. Just get creative man, now that i think about it, you can make one out of w.e. Shit grab a hammer and big roofing nail and pound the pointy end of that fucker flat. Or the 7-11 slurpy straws have that open flared end, that should work nicely.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 19, 2013, 01:08 am
Did i mention not to use the entire straw but only about 3 inches of it.

Ah now there is the key piece of missing information for that strategy. Any idea's on a decent funnel(aside from paper of course, i was hoping for something solid)?

I apologize for my lack of information there dbz. As for as a funnel goes, try some thing that like a piece of a magazine cover or something. Ultimately I think scooping and dropping is more efficient than trying to funnel it into the caps. I can only imagine that the consistency of the MDMA will prevent it from funneling down through a small opening.

 Often times when you buy certain scales they come with little instruments, such as a small cup with a spout and a small scooping spoon. Maybe you can look for some cocaine paraphernalia online some where, those little coke spoons work great. Good luck.   

Hey i just had a idea, how well do you think a teaspoon would work? That seems like a good scooping tool for this

Well A teaspoon would be fine for moving around the lot of it, but there is now way you can cap up with any kind of kitchen utensil. Mayybee if you had some kind of baby spoon, I have a silver baby spoon that I use when im doing bumps of k or blow, but even the smallest kitchen spoon ive ever seen will not cut it. Just get creative man, now that i think about it, you can make one out of w.e. Shit grab a hammer and big roofing nail and pound the pointy end of that fucker flat. Or the 7-11 slurpy straws have that open flared end, that should work nicely.

Slurpy straw is probably the best scooper we've mentioned yet. I have to pick one up, cause its plastic and bendy, you could fit it into the capsule perfectly
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on February 19, 2013, 01:16 am
Yes, but they are kind of wide at the end there. I still say the best bet is to get a mcdondalds or tacobell straw cut off a 3 inch peice, then cut on end at a 25 degree angle. It works perfectly. Just like when you dip the straw into soda and cover the top end with your finger to create suction and hold the liquid in, the same applies to the mdma. Poke it down into your crushed up mdxx mix, then slide the end into the top of the cap and give a few good taps on the top end to clear all the mandy out and into the cap.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 19, 2013, 01:24 am
Yes, but they are kind of wide at the end there. I still say the best bet is to get a mcdondalds or tacobell straw cut off a 3 inch peice, then cut on end at a 25 degree angle. It works perfectly. Just like when you dip the straw into soda and cover the top end with your finger to create suction and hold the liquid in, the same applies to the mdma. Poke it down into your crushed up mdxx mix, then slide the end into the top of the cap and give a few good taps on the top end to clear all the mandy out and into the cap.

Dunno if you have played with one for a while or not. I usually see em when i get icee's at the movie theatre, if you cup it so that you fold the edges up like a really tight U shape, it would almost definitely fit in a size 0. Really appreciate it DB, you've been a great help. +1
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on February 19, 2013, 02:02 am
i got some of ilfs mda and sold that and it went VERY fast, even though i was doing 20 a tenth/15 for my friends.

as far as capping went, i just weighed out one tenth, got a good idea of what it looked like, and put it in a capsule so i could see how full it was.

after that, i capped out the other 30 or so all by eye, making sure that they all had about what they should have (give or take the slightest bit, didnt matter. everyone that took it got faced of one cap regardless of how full it was)

i did it by just emptying out the pile of mda, and just scooping up the mda into the cap and checking to make sure there was enough.

of course as a customer i would rather people weigh each tenth but like i said, noone had anything even remotely negative to say about it.
it was probably the most legit shit most of them had EVER taken lol.

but yeah with my first test run on selling molly here in the us, shit is a cake walk.

let a few "experienced" people try it, and everyone else will listen to them when they talk about how legit it is.(every drug dealer will say they have "the best ever" ,you need someone who isnt a part of the operation to vouch for your product)

even at the prices i had, it started out very slow until a few people gave it a whirl, once that happened it was gone before i could blink an eye...  ;)

I think this is the way to go, at least for those of us pushing significant weight.  I pay a friend (who is unemployed) to weight out ~0.100g and pay them $.50 per pill for capping them.  At this point they and I both have capped literally thousands of pills so we know exactly what .100g looks like.  Even if one gets as low as .090g that person will still have a  great trip because of the high quality / purity of the stuff we get on here.

When I pay my person $.50 per pill to cap them he still gets burnt out after 100-150 of them and can't continue because he gets too bored.  Fucker is making a good $50 per hour and can't even finish LOL.  We're gonna start eyeballing it.

Plus having a scale around can be used against you as intent to sell so that doesn't help.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 19, 2013, 02:12 am
i got some of ilfs mda and sold that and it went VERY fast, even though i was doing 20 a tenth/15 for my friends.

as far as capping went, i just weighed out one tenth, got a good idea of what it looked like, and put it in a capsule so i could see how full it was.

after that, i capped out the other 30 or so all by eye, making sure that they all had about what they should have (give or take the slightest bit, didnt matter. everyone that took it got faced of one cap regardless of how full it was)

i did it by just emptying out the pile of mda, and just scooping up the mda into the cap and checking to make sure there was enough.

of course as a customer i would rather people weigh each tenth but like i said, noone had anything even remotely negative to say about it.
it was probably the most legit shit most of them had EVER taken lol.

but yeah with my first test run on selling molly here in the us, shit is a cake walk.

let a few "experienced" people try it, and everyone else will listen to them when they talk about how legit it is.(every drug dealer will say they have "the best ever" ,you need someone who isnt a part of the operation to vouch for your product)

even at the prices i had, it started out very slow until a few people gave it a whirl, once that happened it was gone before i could blink an eye...  ;)

I think this is the way to go, at least for those of us pushing significant weight.  I pay a friend (who is unemployed) to weight out ~0.100g and pay them $.50 per pill for capping them.  At this point they and I both have capped literally thousands of pills so we know exactly what .100g looks like.  Even if one gets as low as .090g that person will still have a  great trip because of the high quality / purity of the stuff we get on here.

When I pay my person $.50 per pill to cap them he still gets burnt out after 100-150 of them and can't continue because he gets too bored.  Fucker is making a good $50 per hour and can't even finish LOL.  We're gonna start eyeballing it.

Plus having a scale around can be used against you as intent to sell so that doesn't help.

Yea when you're 5-10 mgs off it really doesn't matter if it's high quality stuff unless its already towards the low end of dosage
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Madman2886 on February 19, 2013, 09:34 am
For capping, I just throw things on a piece of paper, folded twice so both creases form a cross in the middle of the sheet. Then I use a mini measuring spoon, that you can find on Ebay or Amazon, to scoop up to around the desired amount and place it on the scale. From that point I just use the tweezers which came with the scale to get up to the exact amounts I'd like. After that I simply take the substance and scrape it into a mini funnel which is placed on top of the cap. The funnel can also be had from Ebay or Amazon, and should have a very short stem. The stem should also be just a few mm in diameter. For instance in the case of size 1 caps, the stem should be 5 mm or less. Tap/shake it a little, and use the tweezers to push anything residual through. After that it's just rinse and repeat. If the substance on the piece of paper starts to spread due to repeated scoops from the measuring spoon, simply utilize the cross formed by the 2 creases to lift the edges of the paper up and consolidate things back into the middle of the sheet. Not too hard.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: XXXotica on February 19, 2013, 03:03 pm
In my area people hate paying more than $10 for an X pill. I wish I could sell em for 20-25...

Ditto, in my area people dont have a clue what real mdma feels like and quite frankly they dont care. The area is flooded with all cut product so no one in my area would even think about paying 20 per pill.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Diz on February 19, 2013, 04:02 pm
I find it quite easy to get anywhere from 20-25 a roll or even 20 for personally made caps. It is really a matter of educating people that just because you see some whitish/off white shards or powder it isn't molly and the rolls they are being handed are most likely junk. Try handing out a few free samples to some friends or even local dealers, this will make them come crawling back for more. I find what really sells people is the explanation of a reagent test and doing it right in front of their eyes. I've even seen some local "molly" dealers get really upset when I test their product in front of them and  the Marquis turns yellow and Mecke a rusty brown. It creates a message that gets around. Hate to say it, but I know I've put some people out of business because they lie to their customers, cheat them out of money with shit product, and put health and safety at a great risk.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 20, 2013, 12:28 am
I find it quite easy to get anywhere from 20-25 a roll or even 20 for personally made caps. It is really a matter of educating people that just because you see some whitish/off white shards or powder it isn't molly and the rolls they are being handed are most likely junk. Try handing out a few free samples to some friends or even local dealers, this will make them come crawling back for more. I find what really sells people is the explanation of a reagent test and doing it right in front of their eyes. I've even seen some local "molly" dealers get really upset when I test their product in front of them and  the Marquis turns yellow and Mecke a rusty brown. It creates a message that gets around. Hate to say it, but I know I've put some people out of business because they lie to their customers, cheat them out of money with shit product, and put health and safety at a great risk.

Good on you bro, fuck those shady assholes. I'd much prefer they take their business to you than some DOUCHEBAG selling them meth. I wound up having a complete psychotic breakdown for 2 weeks, and that was just the acute stage. I literally went like schizophrenic, voices, multiple personalities the whole 9 yards. All because i thought i was taking mdma and it was meth
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Kappacino on February 20, 2013, 03:51 am
Go to a euro seller.

The whole "problem with imports coming from Netherlands area" is VASTLY overstated. 

Most of that was a lie started by selective scammers like Aakoven and Noriega (who are mates irl) so they could have a conceivable excuse for why most of their USA orders were getting "seized". Their seizure rate for USA was a lot higher than all the other NL vendors. At the very worst this was scamming (which is 100% with Noriega, as he pulled an FE scam and ran off), and at the very best they were incompetent and used shit packaging. I tend to think scamming, due to the evasive and constantly equivocating way in which Aakoven would try to slime his way out of the continuous accusations (made by reputable people) made against him.

Unfortunately he manages to hide, as he had befriended many well known vendors, who would back him up, as they were not privy to the exact extent of his scamming. Also, he was backed up by many dick riders who assumed that because THEIR orders came through, it wasn't possible that he had scammed other people. A ridiculous mentality, perpetuated by teenagers, who have no nuance of thought, and who didn't analyse the situation in any sort of depth.

In either case, if you look at the statistics that were analyzed, the seizure rate for Aakoven to the USA was much much much higher than other NL vendors. He is primarily where this myth of it being really really really hard to get stuff from NL to USA comes from.

Truth is, whilst the seizure rate may be slightly higher, with very high quality packaging (which all top vendors should be using), your shit will probably get through. I have friends stateside who buy powder/pills all the time from euro vendors and it is very very rare that anything get seized.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 20, 2013, 04:24 am
Go to a euro seller.

The whole "problem with imports coming from Netherlands area" is VASTLY overstated. 

Most of that was a lie started by selective scammers like Aakoven and Noriega (who are mates irl) so they could have a conceivable excuse for why most of their USA orders were getting "seized". Their seizure rate for USA was a lot higher than all the other NL vendors. At the very worst this was scamming (which is 100% with Noriega, as he pulled an FE scam and ran off), and at the very best they were incompetent and used shit packaging. I tend to think scamming, due to the evasive and constantly equivocating way in which Aakoven would try to slime his way out of the continuous accusations (made by reputable people) made against him.

Unfortunately he manages to hide, as he had befriended many well known vendors, who would back him up, as they were not privy to the exact extent of his scamming. Also, he was backed up by many dick riders who assumed that because THEIR orders came through, it wasn't possible that he had scammed other people. A ridiculous mentality, perpetuated by teenagers, who have no nuance of thought, and who didn't analyse the situation in any sort of depth.

In either case, if you look at the statistics that were analyzed, the seizure rate for Aakoven to the USA was much much much higher than other NL vendors. He is primarily where this myth of it being really really really hard to get stuff from NL to USA comes from.

Truth is, whilst the seizure rate may be slightly higher, with very high quality packaging (which all top vendors should be using), your shit will probably get through. I have friends stateside who buy powder/pills all the time from euro vendors and it is very very rare that anything get seized.

Yeah the long wait times will make you nervous, just smoke weed until day 14, if you're stuff isn't there start tripping. Make sure to go resolution and ask for an extension, sometimes the packages can get held up. Make sure it was confirmed undeliverable before you ask for a reship/refund, they really do take significantly longer than domestic. They'll get through like you said
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Empathy101 on February 20, 2013, 05:25 am
I'm in a smaller community. Not too many people have even heard of Molly (pure mdma), they assume it's the ecstasy of the 90s. Cocaine is prevelant.

After xmas I ordered 5gs MDMA from Evilution. It is *suppossed* to arrive in the next 10 days. I'm throwing myself a bday party and renting a party bus with music (dance, old skooool rap, whomp whomp), crazy lights, a stripper pole, etc. My plan is to gift out the 5gs to friends (and friends of friends) and show everyone a really fucking good time. Hopefully it will be a good business investment.

I also plan on approaching one of the bigger fraternities at the university near me to see if they need a good supplier. I'm convinced all they do is blow around here and I'm going to try to spread the Molly love bc I believe it's SO MUCH better than coke.

Sounds awesome, have fun.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 20, 2013, 05:39 am
I'm in a smaller community. Not too many people have even heard of Molly (pure mdma), they assume it's the ecstasy of the 90s. Cocaine is prevelant.

After xmas I ordered 5gs MDMA from Evilution. It is *suppossed* to arrive in the next 10 days. I'm throwing myself a bday party and renting a party bus with music (dance, old skooool rap, whomp whomp), crazy lights, a stripper pole, etc. My plan is to gift out the 5gs to friends (and friends of friends) and show everyone a really fucking good time. Hopefully it will be a good business investment.

I also plan on approaching one of the bigger fraternities at the university near me to see if they need a good supplier. I'm convinced all they do is blow around here and I'm going to try to spread the Molly love bc I believe it's SO MUCH better than coke.

Sounds awesome, have fun.

That sounds great, just dont announce ANYTHING over facebook. If you do, make sure to change plans immediately(like location of the party), via text or in person. You will be tracked and caught if you use facebook for any sensitive information
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Dankbank1 on February 20, 2013, 07:49 pm
I have an order right now comming from an NL vendor it makes me very happy to hear that there is a myth about NL being a super hard country to get shit from. The vendor uses mylar bags and some shit that is xray proof. I was getting sketched but it's only been day 11 so I bet it will still come. 40g of mdma is not easy to hide. That being said when it gets here im trying to make 2k off of it easily. Happy selling peoples =]
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on February 20, 2013, 08:12 pm
I have an order right now comming from an NL vendor it makes me very happy to hear that there is a myth about NL being a super hard country to get shit from. The vendor uses mylar bags and some shit that is xray proof. I was getting sketched but it's only been day 11 so I bet it will still come. 40g of mdma is not easy to hide. That being said when it gets here im trying to make 2k off of it easily. Happy selling peoples =]

lol if you REALLY want to make a profit, go check out ron pauls listings....

i did the math and if you made mdma yourself you stand to make +50,000 and thats at way less than 100 a g...
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Dankbank1 on February 20, 2013, 08:18 pm
Yeah man but fuck aint no body got time foh dat hahaha, if youre good at chemistry yeah go for it. Myself id rather buy 100g for 1850 or w/e and flip it for much much more

but shit that does sound like a damn good scheme, wish i had the resources and shit id try.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on February 20, 2013, 08:22 pm
Go to a euro seller.

The whole "problem with imports coming from Netherlands area" is VASTLY overstated. 

Most of that was a lie started by selective scammers like Aakoven and Noriega (who are mates irl) so they could have a conceivable excuse for why most of their USA orders were getting "seized". Their seizure rate for USA was a lot higher than all the other NL vendors. At the very worst this was scamming (which is 100% with Noriega, as he pulled an FE scam and ran off), and at the very best they were incompetent and used shit packaging. I tend to think scamming, due to the evasive and constantly equivocating way in which Aakoven would try to slime his way out of the continuous accusations (made by reputable people) made against him.

Unfortunately he manages to hide, as he had befriended many well known vendors, who would back him up, as they were not privy to the exact extent of his scamming. Also, he was backed up by many dick riders who assumed that because THEIR orders came through, it wasn't possible that he had scammed other people. A ridiculous mentality, perpetuated by teenagers, who have no nuance of thought, and who didn't analyse the situation in any sort of depth.

In either case, if you look at the statistics that were analyzed, the seizure rate for Aakoven to the USA was much much much higher than other NL vendors. He is primarily where this myth of it being really really really hard to get stuff from NL to USA comes from.

Truth is, whilst the seizure rate may be slightly higher, with very high quality packaging (which all top vendors should be using), your shit will probably get through. I have friends stateside who buy powder/pills all the time from euro vendors and it is very very rare that anything get seized.

You may be right that seizures are overstated.  But with SuperTrips falling apart and OldAmsterdam's shipping times taking forever, and Dutchaanbod disappearing, you can understand why some Americans get nervous with European vendors right now.  I had a package from Belgium get seized (according to tracking) by customs and you can understand how nervous that can make someone.

I hope you're right though. 
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on February 20, 2013, 09:46 pm
lol Dutch / AA etc never left SR they're just on new screen names.

Just go with RC's honestly. There is a reason that's all you see on the street -- less hangover, easier on the body, more urge to redose and it sells for less than $75 an ounce. I do not agree with misrepresentation of products but the fact of the matter is, methylone / meph ARE molly as far as the streets are concerned. You can source mdma as well at the same time in case anyone cares but i'll tell you right now, no one cares and everyone LOVES the large crystal M1 that's going around right now....it's flying off the shelves.
you know i do agree with this to a point.... most people think molly is molly.
they dont know that all this shit isnt mdma

and its also true that the hangover is less harsh
but thats only because the experience itself is a fucking joke compared to actual mdma....

i still dont think its right though, cant lie. i know most people are too stupid to know any better, but i feel my karma become frazzled when i attempt to sell something as something else.

the ONE AND ONLY time i ever did that, was when i had nbome, and i told someone they were "doses". i was tripping on it at the time and the guilt i felt for even trying it was enormous. i didnt try too hard, because after i first told them about it it started to eat away at me....

fuck all that noise. im going to supply people with legit shit so they have a reason to come back.
these people flooding the market with methylone are fucking everything up.
everyone thinks theyve tried mdma, and they know what its like, but only a select few really do....
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 21, 2013, 12:34 am
lol Dutch / AA etc never left SR they're just on new screen names.

Just go with RC's honestly. There is a reason that's all you see on the street -- less hangover, easier on the body, more urge to redose and it sells for less than $75 an ounce. I do not agree with misrepresentation of products but the fact of the matter is, methylone / meph ARE molly as far as the streets are concerned. You can source mdma as well at the same time in case anyone cares but i'll tell you right now, no one cares and everyone LOVES the large crystal M1 that's going around right now....it's flying off the shelves.
you know i do agree with this to a point.... most people think molly is molly.
they dont know that all this shit isnt mdma

and its also true that the hangover is less harsh
but thats only because the experience itself is a fucking joke compared to actual mdma....

i still dont think its right though, cant lie. i know most people are too stupid to know any better, but i feel my karma become frazzled when i attempt to sell something as something else.

the ONE AND ONLY time i ever did that, was when i had nbome, and i told someone they were "doses". i was tripping on it at the time and the guilt i felt for even trying it was enormous. i didnt try too hard, because after i first told them about it it started to eat away at me....

fuck all that noise. im going to supply people with legit shit so they have a reason to come back.
these people flooding the market with methylone are fucking everything up.
everyone thinks theyve tried mdma, and they know what its like, but only a select few really do....

This is literally the EXACT reason silk road exists. There is so much fake stuff on the market, this is intended to supply you with real known drugs. People who sell shit as other drugs are beyond shady, they are the scum of the earth. You don't know how an RC which has barely been tested will interact with any number of medications, even generic OTC's. It is essentially saying you don't give a flying fuck about their health when you do that. Make sure people are informed and educated when you give them a substance, that's your motherfucking DUTY
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Aurelius Venport on February 21, 2013, 02:35 am
lol. typical internet flaming when people hear about M1 being represented as molly.
E has been misrepresented for years. it is up to the USERS to verify the drugs contents, as this is unregulated black market activity.
I personally do not misrepresent the product -- if someone asks me, I tell them, it's BK-MDMA.
I then explain the product inside and out. In many ways, M1 is superior to MDMA. It's not all about the potency!
How about being able to function the next day? M1 is very likely less neurotoxic than MDMA due to it's 1/3 serotonin receptor antagonist action.
It's dopamine action is the same....and that system recovers quickly. Serotonin takes longer. So for regular users and abusers, I am almost certain BK is superior if you are not looking at it solely in terms of the rush. Obv MDMA is 2nd to none in that department.
Also, I find the empathetic feeling on M1 to be less pronounced than MDMA, which means not acting like such an E tard in the wrong environments or settings. Now as far as the misrepresentation, the issue is, EVERYONE thinks that M1/Meph/MDPV etc IS MOLLY.
I remember before I was involved in this, going to someone's house to buy weed. He took out a large bag and said "check out this molly" ... to which I replied "Oh yeah, that's nice shit! You know that's BK right?" and he said "No, it's molly". Another dealer I knew of said the exact same thing, not even knowing that it wasn't "molly" ... in his mind (and the customers).....It was!! Another 2 sources in my area sell "molly" and it's BK. These guys were the only ones that were even aware that it wasn't MDMA. However, in the minds of all their customers, it is "molly"....A heavy user I know who I gave a sample to just described it as "5/10 molly" ....so the point is, people just think that it's "weaker" molly. Molly is NOT MDMA. It's MDXX. yes, molly is SUPPOSED to be MDMA, but in the public perception, this is just not true.
When I started to sell M1, I told people what it actually was, all the time. I have always preached harm reduction to a fault. However, there are always people that are like "wait a minute do you mean this is that bath salt shit" and don't think critically at all or take the time to actually understand my explanation when I tell them what BK is. Marketing BK as MDMA is not really necc because people GOBBLE IT THE FUCK UP no matter what since most people can't get real shit anyways. But as a matter of simplicity, it helps to just call it "molly" to the uninitiated. You guys can cry all you want about it, I see it on lots of forums, but I am telling you how the game really works, not how it would in a utopian world.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dbz4u on February 21, 2013, 04:46 am
lol. typical internet flaming when people hear about M1 being represented as molly.
E has been misrepresented for years. it is up to the USERS to verify the drugs contents, as this is unregulated black market activity.
I personally do not misrepresent the product -- if someone asks me, I tell them, it's BK-MDMA.
I then explain the product inside and out. In many ways, M1 is superior to MDMA. It's not all about the potency!
How about being able to function the next day? M1 is very likely less neurotoxic than MDMA due to it's 1/3 serotonin receptor antagonist action.
It's dopamine action is the same....and that system recovers quickly. Serotonin takes longer. So for regular users and abusers, I am almost certain BK is superior if you are not looking at it solely in terms of the rush. Obv MDMA is 2nd to none in that department.
Also, I find the empathetic feeling on M1 to be less pronounced than MDMA, which means not acting like such an E tard in the wrong environments or settings. Now as far as the misrepresentation, the issue is, EVERYONE thinks that M1/Meph/MDPV etc IS MOLLY.
I remember before I was involved in this, going to someone's house to buy weed. He took out a large bag and said "check out this molly" ... to which I replied "Oh yeah, that's nice shit! You know that's BK right?" and he said "No, it's molly". Another dealer I knew of said the exact same thing, not even knowing that it wasn't "molly" ... in his mind (and the customers).....It was!! Another 2 sources in my area sell "molly" and it's BK. These guys were the only ones that were even aware that it wasn't MDMA. However, in the minds of all their customers, it is "molly"....A heavy user I know who I gave a sample to just described it as "5/10 molly" ....so the point is, people just think that it's "weaker" molly. Molly is NOT MDMA. It's MDXX. yes, molly is SUPPOSED to be MDMA, but in the public perception, this is just not true.
When I started to sell M1, I told people what it actually was, all the time. I have always preached harm reduction to a fault. However, there are always people that are like "wait a minute do you mean this is that bath salt shit" and don't think critically at all or take the time to actually understand my explanation when I tell them what BK is. Marketing BK as MDMA is not really necc because people GOBBLE IT THE FUCK UP no matter what since most people can't get real shit anyways. But as a matter of simplicity, it helps to just call it "molly" to the uninitiated. You guys can cry all you want about it, I see it on lots of forums, but I am telling you how the game really works, not how it would in a utopian world.

I understand that it is easier and simpler to just use a generic term. However it is not only disingenuous, but potentially dangerous. If he takes it and has a bad reaction, that's on you. If he takes it and dies well then you just fucked your life over forever. That's my point, regardless of the time and effort it takes to give them a quick rundown with a lil proof, it is just as much about covering your ass just like everything you do on here
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on February 21, 2013, 08:01 am
But as a matter of simplicity, it helps to just call it "molly" to the uninitiated. You guys can cry all you want about it, I see it on lots of forums, but I am telling you how the game really works, not how it would in a utopian world.

good way of putting it.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: White 0ut on February 21, 2013, 11:15 am
So back on topic from all this arguing, who are you guys bulking from the USA with?
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Diz on February 22, 2013, 06:49 pm
I tend not to bulk, just hand out my left overs from various Dutch vendors for a small price and it allows me to continue re-upping for personal use and passing things out to close friends. I have really put a lot of thought into buying from Lucky/FredFlintstone though, apparently even after a couple washes you still retain 90%+ of the product and it is just as potent as any pure Dutch you could get. In my opinion it isn't worth the risk trying to bulk up from across the seas. The success rate with Lucky shipping from Canada is just way too great to pass up so I may have to splurge at some point and just go for it.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Aurelius Venport on February 23, 2013, 06:23 am
lol everyone thinks ordering from NL/Overseas etc is so dangerous.

if the vendors do their jobs properly it's not a big deal.

Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on February 23, 2013, 09:53 am
So back on topic from all this arguing, who are you guys bulking from the USA with?

The perception I have is LuckyLuciano in Canada and Empathy101 in the USA are pretty popular.  LL's prices are more or less competitive with European vendors and he has his shit together.  Empathy101 I think gets the same batches as LL and re-sells at a higher price in the USA.

Lucky Luciano / Fred Flinstone is pretty racking up new customers left and right.  Or at least that's the way it appears to me.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: weirdal on February 23, 2013, 07:11 pm
I've always given the highest quality product I possibly could to my customers.  If I get it in crystal, I do the best I can to keep it in as large of chunks as possible when they receive it.  ESPECIALLY in caps.  In the bag it doesn't matter AS MUCH if there are large crystals, but in a cap the crystals capture the eye and attention of EVERYONE.

Due to this and my rather vast knowledge of psychoactive substances and their interactions [nearly] everyone I know comes to me asking questions about DROOGS.  Those that don't are people who are selling inferior product and aren't happy with me.  I've had numerous occasions where competitors ask for some, then try to haggle down the price by saying they have another cheaper better hookup.  I say alright, I'm busy right now anyways.  It's ASTOUNDING how quickly they backpedal and BEG me to come make the deal at full price.

Honestly, if you build up a repoir with your FRIENDS, while you may not have CONSTANT business, anytime they're interested in a drug or in consuming drugs, they'll hit you up and refuse to talk to anyone else.

Also, it's SUPER amusing when there are a large group of people that all think you're their 'private/personal' connect and nobody else knows about you.  They are all giving you their business but they don't think anyone else knows they are getting drugs or if they do, where they're coming from.  You'll be in a room of 8 or 10 people and the topic of MDMA comes up and they're all winking at you and giving you that 'insider' look, and are completely oblivious to everyone else doing so since they think it's "our little secret".

Seriously: Deserve their respect and confidence, and before you know it, they'll give both to you.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Diz on February 24, 2013, 12:57 am
Weirdal really gave the best advice to everyone, gain respect and confidence. It isn't always about making a profit for some of us, but respect and confidence do bring in a good cash flow. I have to say I rarely deal out anything, but when I do it is always quality product at a standard street price. I test everything with reagents in front of my customers and friends and whenever they do need a fix I'm the first person they call and the only person they call. I'm sure plenty of you have  had a dealer or friend at one time that always treated you well, always gave you everything at a straight price, and never was acting like some crazy dealer or wanna-be baller. This goes for anything not just MDMA. Although for those of you who want to make a profit, just keep selling cheap ass methylone as "Molly" and "MDMA" to the kids, they eat it up like candy. (Seriously though, don't. Get a real product.)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on February 24, 2013, 11:34 am
Due to this and my rather vast knowledge of psychoactive substances and their interactions [nearly] everyone I know comes to me asking questions about DROOGS.  Those that don't are people who are selling inferior product and aren't happy with me.  I've had numerous occasions where competitors ask for some, then try to haggle down the price by saying they have another cheaper better hookup.  I say alright, I'm busy right now anyways.  It's ASTOUNDING how quickly they backpedal and BEG me to come make the deal at full price.

A lot of truth to this.  You will get customers who think they are "hard bargainers".  If you have reliable and affordable product then dare them to find another source.  They will fold very quickly.  Everyone is a haggler, but if you have the best supply then you control that side of the market.

See how good they feel about buying some random pressed pills.  After a few rounds of MDMA caps they will never go back.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on February 24, 2013, 06:53 pm
You can make a little money selling caps, or you can make thousands a day selling ounces. M1 is easier on the body than MDMA and you do not have to misrepresent it, contrary to popular belief.

Can you elaborate?  If I were to tell my customers that I was selling them M1 / Methylone almost all of them would decline buying it.  Is it technically "ecstasy" or "molly"?
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on February 24, 2013, 07:01 pm
You can make a little money selling caps, or you can make thousands a day selling ounces. M1 is easier on the body than MDMA and you do not have to misrepresent it, contrary to popular belief.

Can you elaborate?  If I were to tell my customers that I was selling them M1 / Methylone almost all of them would decline buying it.  Is it technically "ecstasy" or "molly"?
no it isnt. all of the kids have been given "molly" that was methylone and they think that is pure mdma. they just dont know.

Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on February 24, 2013, 08:55 pm
You guys should check out ecstacydata.org or .com (clearnet).. It has thousands of lab results from all over the world. It gives the city and state of origin , along with all the ratios and substances found in each pill or cap from ten years ago till the present time. You would be fucking amazedd at the amount of garbage that is being sold as E. Id say about 6 of every 10 tests, result in NO MDMA AT ALL!

 On a side not, I have found the ultimate balance for the ultimate roll! Ive been running a lot of dif rolls around, and getting feedback. From what ive found, the most pleasurable and desirable cap consists of; 130mg MDMA, 10mg Meth, 50mg K and 10mg 2c-b. These 200mg caps are fucking bombski! Much love guys.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Diz on February 24, 2013, 09:11 pm
I really have no issues with people selling M1 and making tons of money as long as they are honest about what it is. Personally I've seen a lot of bad reactions from people taking methylone. I would never sell it, take it, or tell someone its "Molly". By trade I toy around with futures, energy, and the Forex market, I'm not afraid to get dirty to make some money. When it comes to selling illegal substances I'd rather go for tried and true substances than research chemicals simply for harm reduction. Sure a couple thousand a day might be nice but being responsible for some serious health issues or even death isn't worth any amount of money.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: treebeard on February 24, 2013, 10:56 pm
On a side not, I have found the ultimate balance for the ultimate roll! Ive been running a lot of dif rolls around, and getting feedback. From what ive found, the most pleasurable and desirable cap consists of; 130mg MDMA, 10mg Meth, 50mg K and 10mg 2c-b. These 200mg caps are fucking bombski! Much love guys.

haha that sounds like a hell of a killer cocktail  8)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Diz on February 24, 2013, 11:06 pm
Educate me... I was never bashing you Aurelius, I completely accept the fact you make a great profit and are a solid business man. Your last post summed up what I was getting at, the safety is anecdotal for methylone. There are many more things going on besides serotonin and dopamine release when it comes to both substances and how they affect the body. Really there is nothing wrong with M1. I applaud people making such a profit off of their honesty and something that is so cheap for many of us to acquire. I would just stay away from my experiences and what I have seen happen to others.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: yodude420 on February 24, 2013, 11:48 pm
DUDE Cloudsurfer all the way!!!!!!  Amazing stealth(it might even fool you) and ABSOLUTELY STELLAR product. The only down side; unless its diffrent from last time i ordered insanely long delivery time.  i waited on mine for like 19 days back in Nov. but 100% worth every day and bitcoin.  and unless they've changed their policies they even ship you intact rocks.  hands down my favorite molly vendor.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: unknown79 on February 25, 2013, 04:41 pm
You can make a little money selling caps, or you can make thousands a day selling ounces. M1 is easier on the body than MDMA and you do not have to misrepresent it, contrary to popular belief.

Can you elaborate?  If I were to tell my customers that I was selling them M1 / Methylone almost all of them would decline buying it.  Is it technically "ecstasy" or "molly"?

"Hey man, try a couple of these caps. It's called bk-MDMA and it's kinda like my Molly but a little bit less intense, I know how some people get rocked off my gear. I can get it to you for about half as cheap--Here is a couple caps, pass them out to your crew and let me know what you think."

Seriously. I keep both on hand because a lot of the time I get "Damn Unknown79, your stuff had me floored, it was too much" when people have real Molly, especially smaller girls.. Even on low 130mg doses!! Some people have only have M1 so often they can't enjoy real MDMA when I get into their hands, they aren't ready for it and it takes them by surprise.

Of course, I am *the* go-to guy for drug safety and risk-mitigation in my circle and extended circles, so nobody really questions what I say on the topic. I'm also the only person moving significant amounts of real MDMA in my area (As far as I am aware..), so my product is affectionately as "Unknown79's Moll" ;)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: whirlwind on February 25, 2013, 07:28 pm
I don't like ordering internationally for MDMA. Personal preference.
KarmaPharm looks pretty promising with the high quality $50 domestic grams. Havent tried myself however. He is restocking now but usually only seems to take a few days.
Around here I sell .15 of BK for $10 and .10 of MDMA for $15. Its 50/50 on what any friend will choose to consume.

Im taking a little break from molly myself and thus am not ordering it because its tough not to do on a weekly basis when I have it :D

just dumped money into L and boomers for the time being. Feelin good about it.

Peace!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: M n P Stuff on February 27, 2013, 06:26 am
You may be right that seizures are overstated.  But with SuperTrips falling apart and OldAmsterdam's shipping times taking forever, and Dutchaanbod disappearing, you can understand why some Americans get nervous with European vendors right now.  I had a package from Belgium get seized (according to tracking) by customs and you can understand how nervous that can make someone.

I hope you're right though.

1. Place your incoming orders on a table that would be where you take mail back to the PO because, "'I didn't order anything from .... where ever!'"
2. So what if it's my name on it - I do not recognize that address and again, "'I didn't order anything from .... where ever!'" R yee deef sir!

This works! If you can hold back on your excitement for 1 hours - cops don't wait. If they be coming in - it'll happen in 15 to 30 minutes - MAX!

One last bit;  DO NOT BUY FROM OLDAMSTERDAMNIT! Even though he says he ships it right away - what? Can you see him shipping your (our) crappy little 5 gram package when he's back logged with huge orders? I DON'T THINK SO!

Even gave the prick a 3 week extension - figuring he really hadn't even shipped it yet and he happily accepted that - 3 weeks just ran out yesterday! No package! The Resolution center was sold to big vendors some time ago. We were told that even though you don't FE - doesn't mean you'll get your coins back!

Silk Road used to protect it's buyers but you do the math - how many orders X's x amount of % for Robert. Now do you think he will make this pig give your coins back? Even threatening the buyer by say,  you would be best to settle with this person because you won't like what we do!

Nice Roberto! 
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: zipstyle on February 27, 2013, 07:50 am
You guys should check out ecstacydata.org or .com (clearnet).. It has thousands of lab results from all over the world. It gives the city and state of origin , along with all the ratios and substances found in each pill or cap from ten years ago till the present time. You would be fucking amazedd at the amount of garbage that is being sold as E. Id say about 6 of every 10 tests, result in NO MDMA AT ALL!

 On a side not, I have found the ultimate balance for the ultimate roll! Ive been running a lot of dif rolls around, and getting feedback. From what ive found, the most pleasurable and desirable cap consists of; 130mg MDMA, 10mg Meth, 50mg K and 10mg 2c-b. These 200mg caps are fucking bombski! Much love guys.

Damn, this sounds amazing! Good selection for this mix, dirtyb. If only I could try *just* one. Or maybe two, so I can give one to a friend haha. Anyways, sounds legit :)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: ChiefMaster on February 27, 2013, 06:46 pm
I plan on doing the same thing! fuck all this methylone bullshit i want to get people the real deal, and reassure them that theyre getting mdma. Ive had a recent obsession with xtc though and i believe thats the route im gonna go. Im gonna try to score some of Jesus's new ninja turtles. theyre supposed to be up in the next week i believe.. Hes my man for L and know he will pull through on these turtles. Cant wait to share the love :)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on February 27, 2013, 07:56 pm
@zipstyle, yes they are awesome, i wish i had the scratch to open a vendor account =( cause id def throw a freebie your way.
@Cheif, you got it man, fuck the M1 and the TFMPP and the Caffeine, and all the other gabage that money hungry, mouth breathing, shit slinging ass holes pass off as 'molly'. Like i said in a earlier post, you got the real deal, are fair in dose and price, and dont jive the streets, the product will do ALL the work for you. The guy in the story your about to read tired his first one 3 days ago, and has 5 people lined up begging for some of what ever he had 8)


LMAO so the other night, i give one of the mega caps(2cb,meth,molly &k) to a friend of a friend, guys when i tell you, rolling wayyy too hard!!

He eats the cap, as hes waiting for it to kick, hes telling me what the 'best' rolls hes gotten felt like, describing to me how good they where, yet, seeing as how i know my shit, nothing he explained was that of MDMA effects.

So after 20 min, BOOM, eyes begin to roll, teeth chattering, the whole nine.. 'this shit right here, this shit right here" he exclaims. He begins to blow the fuck up. With every sip of OJ he takes, he heaves. then the clothes start coming off, the shoes, then the shirt, mind you now, this is on the roof of a big building lol. He gets OD quiet for the next two hours, just rolling around on the concrete floor, loving life.

Long story short.. Me and my friend are dosed on some 10 mg of the Beeez, so where laughing bullshiting, letting the other guy do his thing, w.e that may be..Thats when i notice its a bit to quiet, he was being quiet as it is, but no 'mmmming' or anything, so we look over , and right at our feet, sprawled out on his bare back, on the cement floor, is my freinds buddy... JERRRKINGGG HISS FFUCKING COCK!!!! 

LMAO i couldnt believe it, i mean, ive seen some shit in my day, but wow. this fucking guy seriously forgot where he was and who was around, and began to jerk off right at our feet! I think its safe to say thats the ultimate testament to just howw good these cocktail mollys are. Just thought Id share that, cause were laughing about it till this day! God speed every one. LOL
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on February 27, 2013, 08:14 pm
@zipstyle, yes they are awesome, i wish i had the scratch to open a vendor account =( cause id def throw a freebie your way.
@Cheif, you got it man, fuck the M1 and the TFMPP and the Caffeine, and all the other gabage that money hungry, mouth breathing, shit slinging ass holes pass off as 'molly'. Like i said in a earlier post, you got the real deal, are fair in dose and price, and dont jive the streets, the product will do ALL the work for you. The guy in the story your about to read tired his first one 3 days ago, and has 5 people lined up begging for some of what ever he had 8)


LMAO so the other night, i give one of the mega caps(2cb,meth,molly &k) to a friend of a friend, guys when i tell you, rolling wayyy too hard!!

He eats the cap, as hes waiting for it to kick, hes telling me what the 'best' rolls hes gotten felt like, describing to me how good they where, yet, seeing as how i know my shit, nothing he explained was that of MDMA effects.

So after 20 min, BOOM, eyes begin to roll, teeth chattering, the whole nine.. 'this shit right here, this shit right here" he exclaims. He begins to blow the fuck up. With every sip of OJ he takes, he heaves. then the clothes start coming off, the shoes, then the shirt, mind you now, this is on the roof of a big building lol. He gets OD quiet for the next two hours, just rolling around on the concrete floor, loving life.

Long story short.. Me and my friend are dosed on some 10 mg of the Beeez, so where laughing bullshiting, letting the other guy do his thing, w.e that may be..Thats when i notice its a bit to quiet, he was being quiet as it is, but no 'mmmming' or anything, so we look over , and right at our feet, sprawled out on his bare back, on the cement floor, is my freinds buddy... JERRRKINGGG HISS FFUCKING COCK!!!! 

LMAO i couldnt believe it, i mean, ive seen some shit in my day, but wow. this fucking guy seriously forgot where he was and who was around, and began to jerk off right at our feet! I think its safe to say thats the ultimate testament to just howw good these cocktail mollys are. Just thought Id share that, cause were laughing about it till this day! God speed every one. LOL

!!!!!

 great story lol. i dont know how i would react but honestly as weird as it sounds, what if he knew what he was doing and he had just gotten passed his system of insecurities/ego walls.
mdma can do that to you haha. i cant say ive ever jacked off in front of some dudes but i remember the first time i ate 5 grams of mushrooms my buddys were on molly rolling balls and at one point my buddy suggested that we get naked jjust as a metaphor for brotherhood and openness really. and we did it.
room full of dudes, two of them being on 5 grams of fungus, the other two rolling on some moon rock, all naked.

of course soft cocks all around, nothing sexual about it whatsoever but still definitely a standout event in my mind xD
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on February 27, 2013, 08:37 pm
LOL thats funny dude.. To be honest, i didnt know how to react. i also didnt know whether or not he did infact knw what he was doing and didnt care, but after a min or two of me and my friend staring at e.o in fucking shock. i was like 'yo, dude..wtf are you doing?!' lol to which he replied, 'fuuuck, i forgot where i was' and rolled over to put his limp cock away lmao. then i felt bad for some reason, and was like look, if thats what you need to do, then shit, go sit in your car man, i didnt want him to think i was offended or mad, but i was absolutely shocked.

I think that the 2c-b was what did it to him, cause he had that ego softened look in his eyes all night, and he wasnt making any sense at all, the shit he was saying, and responding to us with utter nonsense, like that of a L trip.. trying to pick up 1000lb cement parking blocks and shit lol. had i known i was going to be baby sitting i would have hit him off and sent him on his merry fucking way lol. Def a story for the books.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on February 27, 2013, 08:44 pm
LOL thats funny dude.. To be honest, i didnt know how to react. i also didnt know whether or not he did infact knw what he was doing and didnt care, but after a min or two of me and my friend staring at e.o in fucking shock. i was like 'yo, dude..wtf are you doing?!' lol to which he replied, 'fuuuck, i forgot where i was' and rolled over to put his limp cock away lmao. then i felt bad for some reason, and was like look, if thats what you need to do, then shit, go sit in your car man, i didnt want him to think i was offended or mad, but i was absolutely shocked.

I think that the 2c-b was what did it to him, cause he had that ego softened look in his eyes all night, and he wasnt making any sense at all, the shit he was saying, and responding to us with utter nonsense, like that of a L trip.. trying to pick up 1000lb cement parking blocks and shit lol. had i known i was going to be baby sitting i would have hit him off and sent him on his merry fucking way lol. Def a story for the books.

hahaha i think the worst part is that he is going to be looking back on that moment just hating himself.

be sure to tell him shits cool and your not freaked out because i know if i did that i would be mentally scarred   ;D

and when you are tripping your emotions are running on high. the more i think about it forreal there is probably a little bit of psychological damage done there.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on February 27, 2013, 08:56 pm
Man you wouldnt believe, he has acted like not a fucking thing happend that night, like it was totally normal.. LOL

He came to tell us that he is addicted to porn. lmao . some fucking people man.. good thing for him im easy going, and not the animal i once was, or he would have been on a one way flight off the roof haahaha
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: isthereanyneed on February 27, 2013, 09:12 pm
@zipstyle, yes they are awesome, i wish i had the scratch to open a vendor account =( cause id def throw a freebie your way.
@Cheif, you got it man, fuck the M1 and the TFMPP and the Caffeine, and all the other gabage that money hungry, mouth breathing, shit slinging ass holes pass off as 'molly'. Like i said in a earlier post, you got the real deal, are fair in dose and price, and dont jive the streets, the product will do ALL the work for you. The guy in the story your about to read tired his first one 3 days ago, and has 5 people lined up begging for some of what ever he had 8)


LMAO so the other night, i give one of the mega caps(2cb,meth,molly &k) to a friend of a friend, guys when i tell you, rolling wayyy too hard!!

He eats the cap, as hes waiting for it to kick, hes telling me what the 'best' rolls hes gotten felt like, describing to me how good they where, yet, seeing as how i know my shit, nothing he explained was that of MDMA effects.

So after 20 min, BOOM, eyes begin to roll, teeth chattering, the whole nine.. 'this shit right here, this shit right here" he exclaims. He begins to blow the fuck up. With every sip of OJ he takes, he heaves. then the clothes start coming off, the shoes, then the shirt, mind you now, this is on the roof of a big building lol. He gets OD quiet for the next two hours, just rolling around on the concrete floor, loving life.

Long story short.. Me and my friend are dosed on some 10 mg of the Beeez, so where laughing bullshiting, letting the other guy do his thing, w.e that may be..Thats when i notice its a bit to quiet, he was being quiet as it is, but no 'mmmming' or anything, so we look over , and right at our feet, sprawled out on his bare back, on the cement floor, is my freinds buddy... JERRRKINGGG HISS FFUCKING COCK!!!! 

LMAO i couldnt believe it, i mean, ive seen some shit in my day, but wow. this fucking guy seriously forgot where he was and who was around, and began to jerk off right at our feet! I think its safe to say thats the ultimate testament to just howw good these cocktail mollys are. Just thought Id share that, cause were laughing about it till this day! God speed every one. LOL

hahaha, Ive seen that happen before, few years back I was at a friends birthday and we all went back to his house after the bar we had rented for the night had closed, there was at least 30-40 people all crammed into this medium size house. We were all doing our own thing in the kitchen and on the stairs everywhere there were people laying all over full of coke and xtc.


Crazy times
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on February 27, 2013, 09:27 pm
@zipstyle, yes they are awesome, i wish i had the scratch to open a vendor account =( cause id def throw a freebie your way.
@Cheif, you got it man, fuck the M1 and the TFMPP and the Caffeine, and all the other gabage that money hungry, mouth breathing, shit slinging ass holes pass off as 'molly'. Like i said in a earlier post, you got the real deal, are fair in dose and price, and dont jive the streets, the product will do ALL the work for you. The guy in the story your about to read tired his first one 3 days ago, and has 5 people lined up begging for some of what ever he had 8)


LMAO so the other night, i give one of the mega caps(2cb,meth,molly &k) to a friend of a friend, guys when i tell you, rolling wayyy too hard!!

He eats the cap, as hes waiting for it to kick, hes telling me what the 'best' rolls hes gotten felt like, describing to me how good they where, yet, seeing as how i know my shit, nothing he explained was that of MDMA effects.

So after 20 min, BOOM, eyes begin to roll, teeth chattering, the whole nine.. 'this shit right here, this shit right here" he exclaims. He begins to blow the fuck up. With every sip of OJ he takes, he heaves. then the clothes start coming off, the shoes, then the shirt, mind you now, this is on the roof of a big building lol. He gets OD quiet for the next two hours, just rolling around on the concrete floor, loving life.

Long story short.. Me and my friend are dosed on some 10 mg of the Beeez, so where laughing bullshiting, letting the other guy do his thing, w.e that may be..Thats when i notice its a bit to quiet, he was being quiet as it is, but no 'mmmming' or anything, so we look over , and right at our feet, sprawled out on his bare back, on the cement floor, is my freinds buddy... JERRRKINGGG HISS FFUCKING COCK!!!! 

LMAO i couldnt believe it, i mean, ive seen some shit in my day, but wow. this fucking guy seriously forgot where he was and who was around, and began to jerk off right at our feet! I think its safe to say thats the ultimate testament to just howw good these cocktail mollys are. Just thought Id share that, cause were laughing about it till this day! God speed every one. LOL

hahaha, Ive seen that happen before, few years back I was at a friends birthday and we all went back to his house after the bar we had rented for the night had closed, there was at least 30-40 people all crammed into this medium size house. We were all doing our own thing in the kitchen and on the stairs everywhere there were people laying all over full of coke and xtc.

All of sudden I heard loads of laughing coming from the living room, turns out some girls boyfriend had went up stairs in  a bedroom full of people lay on the bed off his head on xtc (back then here they were very strong) and started jerking his cock naked on my friends king size bed infront of a room full of people doing coke but the best bit is every one ran out the room and some kid had a cam corder handy he went up stairs popped it round the door and started filming him they put the video on the big screen and played it to the full party showing this guy was rolling all over the sheets wanking into a pink fluffy cushion as the video was playing he comes walking in hair a mess, t shirt on inside out, jaw all over and said what you guys all watching, hahahaha!

Crazy times

xD see i feel like these types of things arise because of how common sex is used in advertising and entertainment.

its all we see, and it is the survival method of the human race so it makes sense.
either way we live in a society that builds up sexuality, when the barriers come down some shit is bound to come out.

and you know, if a person has sexual thoughts like that sober, its bound to come to light when they are high off of their tits.
it just happens  ;D
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: thisworld on February 27, 2013, 10:55 pm
Wow, that's some crazy shit.  This thread sure got derailed! haha

I saw another few pages and figured there would be a lot more advice.  DAMN!  I never saw shit like that.  Course, I've never fed someone a cocktail(no pun intended) like that. 
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Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on February 27, 2013, 11:07 pm
@ thisworld. i just LOL'd +1
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on February 28, 2013, 12:14 am
+1 dude. your absolutely 100% correct. I take harm reduction with the utmost seriousness. I do indeed make it a point to dose my clientele. Maybe i wasnt clear that im not really a dealer or reseller. I am just every ones go to guy for the real deal when it comes to any drug that they think they have done or come to love.

 The ones i cap with a higher dose of MDMA like the 130mg i mentioned, only go to people that i know will be ok with that. Also i make it a very clear point NOT to EVER re dose on one of my rolls, untill at leastt 2 hours after first cap. In almost every instance, the buyer never wound up needing, or wanting that second pill, and save it for another time rather.

That same guy that strangled the weasel infront of us, that same night was looking to take two. I gave him the run down, and he thanked me a million times over, for the first real roll hes had, and for preventing him from dropping two and going into some kind of neuroshock.

I try to make the rolls, to where it will be almost absolutely unnecessary to any one person to take more than one pill per night. If they are avid on doing so, or like or dislike a particular feeling, i cater the caps to individual preference. When ever im capping a heavy pack, or catering a general order, that will ultimately be  from another persons hands, and not mine, i will keep the roll to an average dose.  75mgMDMA,5mg meth,20mg K. The 75mg MDMA is more than enough to get your expected MDMA roll and blow up, the 5mg meth is jusst enough to keep you in a good mood when the molly is on a down swing, and prevent the miserable lows when not at a peak, and the 20mg K is the first thing that is felt when the cap dissolves , perfectly easing you into the come up and first peak of the MDMA.

 Typically when i have given raw MDMA, it had never got great feedback, mainly due to the shortness of the experience, and terribly depressing come down.   Sorry for not being as detailed as i should have been, i tend to get lazy , and give the masses too much credit, assuming that they wont just skim over something they read and call it set in stone. For any one that has any questions, for me or for any one else that they are looking to get advice from, i urge you , please be thorough. Do not cut corners, and learn all you can before making final decisions. There is no such thing as a dumb question ( not entirely true, but ALWAYS better safe than sorry) Much love Aurelius.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on February 28, 2013, 12:18 am
Wow, that's some crazy shit.  This thread sure got derailed! haha

I saw another few pages and figured there would be a lot more advice.  DAMN!  I never saw shit like that.  Course, I've never fed someone a cocktail(no pun intended) like that.

haha any time something off topic comes up i keep it going. i just enjoy social interaction, im not thinking about the fact that people are about to look up how to sell mdma and stumble into two mdma public masturbation stories, my story of being naked with my friends tripping face, and my thoughts on how society perpetuates those thoughts.

derailed=the best word for it hahaha
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Aurelius Venport on February 28, 2013, 05:52 am
+1 dude. your absolutely 100% correct. I take harm reduction with the utmost seriousness. I do indeed make it a point to dose my clientele. Maybe i wasnt clear that im not really a dealer or reseller. I am just every ones go to guy for the real deal when it comes to any drug that they think they have done or come to love.

 The ones i cap with a higher dose of MDMA like the 130mg i mentioned, only go to people that i know will be ok with that. Also i make it a very clear point NOT to EVER re dose on one of my rolls, untill at leastt 2 hours after first cap. In almost every instance, the buyer never wound up needing, or wanting that second pill, and save it for another time rather.

That same guy that strangled the weasel infront of us, that same night was looking to take two. I gave him the run down, and he thanked me a million times over, for the first real roll hes had, and for preventing him from dropping two and going into some kind of neuroshock.

I try to make the rolls, to where it will be almost absolutely unnecessary to any one person to take more than one pill per night. If they are avid on doing so, or like or dislike a particular feeling, i cater the caps to individual preference. When ever im capping a heavy pack, or catering a general order, that will ultimately be  from another persons hands, and not mine, i will keep the roll to an average dose.  75mgMDMA,5mg meth,20mg K. The 75mg MDMA is more than enough to get your expected MDMA roll and blow up, the 5mg meth is jusst enough to keep you in a good mood when the molly is on a down swing, and prevent the miserable lows when not at a peak, and the 20mg K is the first thing that is felt when the cap dissolves , perfectly easing you into the come up and first peak of the MDMA.

 Typically when i have given raw MDMA, it had never got great feedback, mainly due to the shortness of the experience, and terribly depressing come down.   Sorry for not being as detailed as i should have been, i tend to get lazy , and give the masses too much credit, assuming that they wont just skim over something they read and call it set in stone. For any one that has any questions, for me or for any one else that they are looking to get advice from, i urge you , please be thorough. Do not cut corners, and learn all you can before making final decisions. There is no such thing as a dumb question ( not entirely true, but ALWAYS better safe than sorry) Much love Aurelius.

i wish I knew people like the silkroaders IRL......the people here really are a cut above XD...great post
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: White 0ut on February 28, 2013, 06:43 am
I need to order 10+ grams of MDMA, Quality, Cheap, Fast Shipping...
I feel like this is the thread to ask considering everyones experience.
Who do you suggest?

GO!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: weirdal on February 28, 2013, 07:29 am
DutchTrade has been getting good reviews from the FEW that have come in.  I'd personally recommend XTC EXPRESS right now.  other than him if you're willing to take a small chance try out ItalianMafiaBrussels.  He's pretty new but has great prices and good reviews.  Also, ask DeadRa7.  He seems to keep up with that stuff pretty religiously. Let us know how it goes for you. :)

  SERIOUSLY, I've made all my good friends(the only one's i really hand product off to) promise not to redose before 90 minutes have passed and not take more than 2 at once.  I only dose at 70mg, but I've literally NEVER had a single complaint from someone WHO'S TAKEN ONE.  A lot of people snort and roll their eyes when i say 70mg, but after taking 1 they sure change their tune pretty quick.  I've only used DA and ST recently and IMO it's superior product.  With ST's bullshit going on and DA's disappearance I'm considering a few alternatives.  DutchTrade being the one I'm leaning towards, but I'm still waiting for a few more reviews.

Anyone else's opinion on a good vendor? I'm only looking for 10g right now.
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Post by: vcalderone on February 28, 2013, 09:52 pm
good read, some good info here
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: MDUK on March 06, 2013, 05:53 pm
SERIOUSLY, I've made all my good friends(the only one's i really hand product off to) promise not to redose before 90 minutes have passed and not take more than 2 at once.  I only dose at 70mg, but I've literally NEVER had a single complaint from someone WHO'S TAKEN ONE.  A lot of people snort and roll their eyes when i say 70mg, but after taking 1 they sure change their tune pretty quick.

I find exactly the same thing all the time - people who've been told the caps they have are 200mg or something crazy like that, when they're actually more like 100.
I give them mine, which I usually dose in the 100-150 range (depending on the batch and who it's for) and they can't believe how good they are.

Also, in the UK I find that a lot of people think the pills they get that are actually full of dodgy RCs are MDMA... I've been having a bit of a campaign of getting people to marquis test their stuff :D
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Post by: ItalianMafiaBrussels on March 07, 2013, 02:21 am
DutchTrade has been getting good reviews from the FEW that have come in.  I'd personally recommend XTC EXPRESS right now.  other than him if you're willing to take a small chance try out ItalianMafiaBrussels.  He's pretty new but has great prices and good reviews.  Also, ask DeadRa7.  He seems to keep up with that stuff pretty religiously. Let us know how it goes for you. :)

  SERIOUSLY, I've made all my good friends(the only one's i really hand product off to) promise not to redose before 90 minutes have passed and not take more than 2 at once.  I only dose at 70mg, but I've literally NEVER had a single complaint from someone WHO'S TAKEN ONE.  A lot of people snort and roll their eyes when i say 70mg, but after taking 1 they sure change their tune pretty quick.  I've only used DA and ST recently and IMO it's superior product.  With ST's bullshit going on and DA's disappearance I'm considering a few alternatives.  DutchTrade being the one I'm leaning towards, but I'm still waiting for a few more reviews.

Anyone else's opinion on a good vendor? I'm only looking for 10g right now.

Thanks for mentioning me, yes quality is the name of our game  ;)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: x24x24x on April 04, 2013, 05:58 pm
I tried looking for this in the tread but i have a specific question. How do you go about carrying the pills on you when you go out the club for instance. Do you have each pill in its own baggie already or bag two of them or what do you normally do for distribution? Also, is it dumb to have baggies with any prints on them?
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on April 04, 2013, 09:38 pm
I tried looking for this in the tread but i have a specific question. How do you go about carrying the pills on you when you go out the club for instance. Do you have each pill in its own baggie already or bag two of them or what do you normally do for distribution? Also, is it dumb to have baggies with any prints on them?

I personally buy small baggies that can contain 10-20 pills in them.  Mine don't have print on them but yours can if you'd like.  I usually put 10 in each so that I can count them fast if someone is buying bulk (I don't sell bulk in the clubs though, too risky).  The irony about clubs, at least in my area, is that the bouncers know what's going on and typically don't care.  The fact that police rarely come in to the bars also creates protection from getting "caught".  Of course if you are going out and getting drunk with 20+ pills on you then you are running a risk.  You never know if some drunk guy will try to fight you or if you might have 1 drink too many.  Where I live the cops are itching to arrest people and if they find more than about 30 pills in my jurisdiction they will bust you for selling.  Possession charges I can live with, distribution charges are a lot more serious.

Also keep in mind that if you take them out with you without baggies that you will often have some fall onto the ground when you take some pills out.  IMO small baggies are the way to go and to be honest I am definitely looking for some good underwear that would have a discrete pocket right near the genitalia.  It's pretty much the only safe place if you get patted down by the police.  Maybe I should invent and market them myself...

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on April 04, 2013, 10:02 pm
I tried looking for this in the tread but i have a specific question. How do you go about carrying the pills on you when you go out the club for instance. Do you have each pill in its own baggie already or bag two of them or what do you normally do for distribution? Also, is it dumb to have baggies with any prints on them?

I like to get have size 10x10 bags, they fit 3 size 0 caps in each bag, then I sell 3 for $40 or $50.. the better the deal the more encouraged the buyer is to not ask for just one pill. good luck.

 PS be careful in the clubs, unlike danconias area, clubs all through out the north east US have loads of undercovers  and plain clothes LEO in them, in my home state, they are fucking slick too, acting all fucked up, and their good at it. so stay on your toes, if possible tell who ever wants a pill to meet you in a stall in the mens room in how ever many minutes. Seems to be the best bet when your in a club, not many options on serving some one drugs.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: x24x24x on April 05, 2013, 06:13 pm
I tried looking for this in the tread but i have a specific question. How do you go about carrying the pills on you when you go out the club for instance. Do you have each pill in its own baggie already or bag two of them or what do you normally do for distribution? Also, is it dumb to have baggies with any prints on them?

I personally buy small baggies that can contain 10-20 pills in them.  Mine don't have print on them but yours can if you'd like.  I usually put 10 in each so that I can count them fast if someone is buying bulk (I don't sell bulk in the clubs though, too risky).  The irony about clubs, at least in my area, is that the bouncers know what's going on and typically don't care.  The fact that police rarely come in to the bars also creates protection from getting "caught".  Of course if you are going out and getting drunk with 20+ pills on you then you are running a risk.  You never know if some drunk guy will try to fight you or if you might have 1 drink too many.  Where I live the cops are itching to arrest people and if they find more than about 30 pills in my jurisdiction they will bust you for selling.  Possession charges I can live with, distribution charges are a lot more serious.

Also keep in mind that if you take them out with you without baggies that you will often have some fall onto the ground when you take some pills out.  IMO small baggies are the way to go and to be honest I am definitely looking for some good underwear that would have a discrete pocket right near the genitalia.  It's pretty much the only safe place if you get patted down by the police.  Maybe I should invent and market them myself...

Hope this helps.
Great info. Now i'm looking online for underwear pockets ;-(
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: imghost9 on April 05, 2013, 08:13 pm
Solid Thread
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: davidthegnome on April 05, 2013, 09:50 pm
I buy from Dutch and CloudSurfer and do the same thing you're planning on doing! I do make a lot of money but the enjoyment I bring to others is far more gratifying  :)

CloudSurfer all the way. By far the most professional vendor I have dealt with at SR so far.
They take the time to do it right. And they ship decent amounts as well. Check out their forum and SR reviews.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on April 05, 2013, 11:44 pm
Great info. Now i'm looking online for underwear pockets ;-(

Just ordered a pair of the following.  Will review once I receive and try them out:
*Clearnet* https://www.stashitware.com/
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: STfish on April 06, 2013, 04:44 am
How I sell MDMA, I only sell at raves anonymously in the sense that no one except for one person knows my face or name. Any other form of selling is to much risk IMO.

"Definitely makes sense to have one person holding the goods, and one person selling then a few at a time. If that person gets caught they should have no more than a few items and very little cash on them. In some cases the runner, even if they got caught could talk their way out of it, either on the scene or in court, whereas holding 15+ grams and a thousand dollars in your pockets is a guaranteed conviction.
Just make sure you don't look too suspicious getting more doses every minute from your mule!
That's how I would look at it anyway..." - UnWizard

You can make ALOT of money in one night by doing this, only thing is you have to be careful, because PURE MDMA is hard to find at raves and people that are buying are most likely used to the cut shit so they'll pop 3-4 caps in one night, that's why I personally only put .1 in each cap, i've had bad experiences with people in the past thinking that they are ODing when in reality they are just rolling to hard because they took double or triple the dose of a normal roll. I hate having to cut down to .1 though but the way customers are it's a necessity. (When I first started I had .13 - .14 in each cap)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: davidthegnome on April 06, 2013, 06:15 pm
Solid Thread

Ha! I finally got around to reading the rest of this thread. Lots of solid info here indeed.
Love the new perspectives and advice. The knowledge is quite possibly more important than the drugs.
You need both to go hand in hand.

Thanks for sharing your insight! It gave me some new perspectives and confirmed some old ones. :)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on April 06, 2013, 06:16 pm
You can make ALOT of money in one night by doing this, only thing is you have to be careful, because PURE MDMA is hard to find at raves and people that are buying are most likely used to the cut shit so they'll pop 3-4 caps in one night, that's why I personally only put .1 in each cap, i've had bad experiences with people in the past thinking that they are ODing when in reality they are just rolling to hard because they took double or triple the dose of a normal roll. I hate having to cut down to .1 though but the way customers are it's a necessity. (When I first started I had .13 - .14 in each cap)

+1.  A lot of the stuff we get on here is very pure compared to other crap on the street.  It seems that pure MDMA also takes longer to hit.  On multiple occasions I have had people, typically lightweight girls, take a few of my pills when already drunk.  Sometimes vomiting is involved.  Caution people that your stuff is strong but takes a while to hit (if it really is strong / pure).
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: imghost9 on April 06, 2013, 06:28 pm
I love all the ideas In this thread because this Is what I've been planning on doing myself.Though  I'm having 0 luck finding a legit vendor with cheap prices so far... So far ChemicalSisters hasn't came through and I'm 4 days from auto finalize. Just placed order with nawlins yesterday, so we'll see how that goes.

Can anybody recommend some LEGIT vendors with great prices? I'm talkin like 5 gs for under $200.

I was starting to lose hope (and money!) before reading through all the pages. Now It has returned... So once again, SOLID FUCKING THREAD!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: hee57 on April 06, 2013, 06:42 pm
I love all the ideas In this thread because this Is what I've been planning on doing myself.Though  I'm having 0 luck finding a legit vendor with cheap prices so far... So far ChemicalSisters hasn't came through and I'm 4 days from auto finalize. Just placed order with nawlins yesterday, so we'll see how that goes.

Can anybody recommend some LEGIT vendors with great prices? I'm talkin like 5 gs for under $200.

I was starting to lose hope (and money!) before reading through all the pages. Now It has returned... So once again, SOLID FUCKING THREAD!

Dutchtrade had/has some excellent product for cheap. I bought 10 grams off him for around 20+ per gram and sold off it all at 10 per point or 70-90 per gram for the bulk buyers. Made like $600 profit in a week (not a lot for the big timers but this was pretty decent considering I only invested a couple hundred).
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: imghost9 on April 06, 2013, 07:07 pm
I love all the ideas In this thread because this Is what I've been planning on doing myself.Though  I'm having 0 luck finding a legit vendor with cheap prices so far... So far ChemicalSisters hasn't came through and I'm 4 days from auto finalize. Just placed order with nawlins yesterday, so we'll see how that goes.

Can anybody recommend some LEGIT vendors with great prices? I'm talkin like 5 gs for under $200.

I was starting to lose hope (and money!) before reading through all the pages. Now It has returned... So once again, SOLID FUCKING THREAD!

Dutchtrade had/has some excellent product for cheap. I bought 10 grams off him for around 20+ per gram and sold off it all at 10 per point or 70-90 per gram for the bulk buyers. Made like $600 profit in a week (not a lot for the big timers but this was pretty decent considering I only invested a couple hundred).

Ugh just checked his listings and he's takin a week or 2 off.... Wish I woulda seen this before investing all my money Into dealers I FELT that I could trust. Price of being a newbie I guess
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Sero Tonin on April 06, 2013, 07:15 pm
I love all the ideas In this thread because this Is what I've been planning on doing myself.Though  I'm having 0 luck finding a legit vendor with cheap prices so far... So far ChemicalSisters hasn't came through and I'm 4 days from auto finalize. Just placed order with nawlins yesterday, so we'll see how that goes.

Can anybody recommend some LEGIT vendors with great prices? I'm talkin like 5 gs for under $200.

I was starting to lose hope (and money!) before reading through all the pages. Now It has returned... So once again, SOLID FUCKING THREAD!

Dutchtrade had/has some excellent product for cheap. I bought 10 grams off him for around 20+ per gram and sold off it all at 10 per point or 70-90 per gram for the bulk buyers. Made like $600 profit in a week (not a lot for the big timers but this was pretty decent considering I only invested a couple hundred).

Ugh just checked his listings and he's takin a week or 2 off.... Wish I woulda seen this before investing all my money Into dealers I FELT that I could trust. Price of being a newbie I guess
glad i made my order for 20 grams :) and he was still doing the 10% extra yay :)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: imghost9 on April 06, 2013, 07:21 pm
I love all the ideas In this thread because this Is what I've been planning on doing myself.Though  I'm having 0 luck finding a legit vendor with cheap prices so far... So far ChemicalSisters hasn't came through and I'm 4 days from auto finalize. Just placed order with nawlins yesterday, so we'll see how that goes.

Can anybody recommend some LEGIT vendors with great prices? I'm talkin like 5 gs for under $200.

I was starting to lose hope (and money!) before reading through all the pages. Now It has returned... So once again, SOLID FUCKING THREAD!

Dutchtrade had/has some excellent product for cheap. I bought 10 grams off him for around 20+ per gram and sold off it all at 10 per point or 70-90 per gram for the bulk buyers. Made like $600 profit in a week (not a lot for the big timers but this was pretty decent considering I only invested a couple hundred).

Ugh just checked his listings and he's takin a week or 2 off.... Wish I woulda seen this before investing all my money Into dealers I FELT that I could trust. Price of being a newbie I guess
glad i made my order for 20 grams :) and he was still doing the 10% extra yay :)

*Blows brains out*
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: 41910192618123 on April 07, 2013, 12:41 am
looking for quality america to america mdma at a quality price with no interruptions
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on April 07, 2013, 05:12 pm
looking for quality america to america mdma at a quality price with no interruptions

Instagrams, or cousinfrank are two local guys i deal with, great stuff, only small quantities though.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Sero Tonin on April 07, 2013, 06:52 pm
I love all the ideas In this thread because this Is what I've been planning on doing myself.Though  I'm having 0 luck finding a legit vendor with cheap prices so far... So far ChemicalSisters hasn't came through and I'm 4 days from auto finalize. Just placed order with nawlins yesterday, so we'll see how that goes.

Can anybody recommend some LEGIT vendors with great prices? I'm talkin like 5 gs for under $200.

I was starting to lose hope (and money!) before reading through all the pages. Now It has returned... So once again, SOLID FUCKING THREAD!

Dutchtrade had/has some excellent product for cheap. I bought 10 grams off him for around 20+ per gram and sold off it all at 10 per point or 70-90 per gram for the bulk buyers. Made like $600 profit in a week (not a lot for the big timers but this was pretty decent considering I only invested a couple hundred).

Ugh just checked his listings and he's takin a week or 2 off.... Wish I woulda seen this before investing all my money Into dealers I FELT that I could trust. Price of being a newbie I guess
glad i made my order for 20 grams :) and he was still doing the 10% extra yay :)

*Blows brains out*

lmfao...+fucking1 haha
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: calicojak on April 07, 2013, 07:18 pm
Ok fellow mdma sellers here's my situation, what would you do?

I've only sold small amounts to a select few people here locally and its amazing how many people are ignorant to what real mdma is! These people have been taking M1 and don't know any better until I put them on the real shit , its fucking crazy!
A guy I know sells "Molly" and had a few nights ago I let him try some of my stuff and he said he's never felt that feeling before! What!?? How in the fuck do you  sell "molly" but never actually even rolled before lol!?
The game is certainly fucked up!

Here's my predicament; he wants me to sell him "molly" which he now knows is m1 since trying the real shit. He has a huge clientele base in the city next door and they all buy up and love M1 apparently lol.
I want to get into the market and with him I can directly sell him oz's of m1 for 400 an o and he will keep coming back. Seems good deal because of course we can get m1 for cheap on here through China.
I don't like the fact that the sell m1 as molly but the people do buy and they do come back so there is a market.
Me personally I wouldn't sell m1 and claim it to be mdma but this guy knows what it is and still wants it so Im thinking hard about this. I would still keep the real deal for me and my people but would sell him m1 (like i said he knows exactly what it is now) which he would sell to some other dealers. He makes a profit and so do I plus I only have to deal with 1 person which is what I want.

How's all this sounding?

Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: imghost9 on April 07, 2013, 08:04 pm
Ok fellow mdma sellers here's my situation, what would you do?

I've only sold small amounts to a select few people here locally and its amazing how many people are ignorant to what real mdma is! These people have been taking M1 and don't know any better until I put them on the real shit , its fucking crazy!
A guy I know sells "Molly" and had a few nights ago I let him try some of my stuff and he said he's never felt that feeling before! What!?? How in the fuck do you  sell "molly" but never actually even rolled before lol!?
The game is certainly fucked up!

Here's my predicament; he wants me to sell him "molly" which he now knows is m1 since trying the real shit. He has a huge clientele base in the city next door and they all buy up and love M1 apparently lol.
I want to get into the market and with him I can directly sell him oz's of m1 for 400 an o and he will keep coming back. Seems good deal because of course we can get m1 for cheap on here through China.
I don't like the fact that the sell m1 as molly but the people do buy and they do come back so there is a market.
Me personally I wouldn't sell m1 and claim it to be mdma but this guy knows what it is and still wants it so Im thinking hard about this. I would still keep the real deal for me and my people but would sell him m1 (like i said he knows exactly what it is now) which he would sell to some other dealers. He makes a profit and so do I plus I only have to deal with 1 person which is what I want.

How's all this sounding?

Dude your In a situation similar to mine, but I can make a 1000 an O easy over here (If passed of for molly)... It's really all up to your morals and standards. Me personally, I'm here to make money....

I mean this Is the drug game there's no rules you have to follow, and obviously people are gonna get burned. I realize most people would assume I'm a horrible person for this, but I got a family to feed and there way more important to me then a group of ignorant college kids that will take anything there dealer sells them. It's up to you man but If you need money like some of us need money you'll do anything to get It and this Isn't to bad of an option for you right now!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: calicojak on April 07, 2013, 08:22 pm
Thanks for replying imghost9...

Yeah man Im thinking along those lines. These are hood sellers that don't leave the block hardly so the people they sell to are regulars..so obviously to me they must like the way it makes them feel or the wouldn't return. That makes me feel a little bette. But you're right somebody probably will get burned down the line.
Yeah I need the money for sure so I guess I was going to move ahead regardless of what replies I got here.
Im just going to have to do it and know that IM not intentionally selling it off as molly . But Jesus I swear these people out here have no problem buying "m1 molly"
Crazy!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: unknown79 on April 07, 2013, 08:57 pm
Ok fellow mdma sellers here's my situation, what would you do?

I've only sold small amounts to a select few people here locally and its amazing how many people are ignorant to what real mdma is! These people have been taking M1 and don't know any better until I put them on the real shit , its fucking crazy!
A guy I know sells "Molly" and had a few nights ago I let him try some of my stuff and he said he's never felt that feeling before! What!?? How in the fuck do you  sell "molly" but never actually even rolled before lol!?
The game is certainly fucked up!

Here's my predicament; he wants me to sell him "molly" which he now knows is m1 since trying the real shit. He has a huge clientele base in the city next door and they all buy up and love M1 apparently lol.
I want to get into the market and with him I can directly sell him oz's of m1 for 400 an o and he will keep coming back. Seems good deal because of course we can get m1 for cheap on here through China.
I don't like the fact that the sell m1 as molly but the people do buy and they do come back so there is a market.
Me personally I wouldn't sell m1 and claim it to be mdma but this guy knows what it is and still wants it so Im thinking hard about this. I would still keep the real deal for me and my people but would sell him m1 (like i said he knows exactly what it is now) which he would sell to some other dealers. He makes a profit and so do I plus I only have to deal with 1 person which is what I want.

How's all this sounding?

I am in a similar situation to you. I am a large wholesaler of MDMA in my area and I'm pretty much *the* guy to go to for it..I have a reputation that precedes me. A big client of mine approached me about bk-mdma/M1 as well and gave me a 400/oz price point and wants a half pound straight up. You know the prices so you know that's easy money. I jumped on it. Honestly...I don't know if he is selling it as Molly because I don't ask. I tell him what it is and I tell him to never mention he gets it from me because it's HIS product. He also resells MDMA so I'm unsure if he informs his clientele that it is bk. M1 is not bad, it has its time and place. And if someone buys bk at mdma prices because they don't test their drugs, I don't even really think they deserve to have a real mdma experience, they will be happy with bk :)



Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: imghost9 on April 07, 2013, 09:03 pm
Thanks for replying imghost9...

Yeah man Im thinking along those lines. These are hood sellers that don't leave the block hardly so the people they sell to are regulars..so obviously to me they must like the way it makes them feel or the wouldn't return. That makes me feel a little bette. But you're right somebody probably will get burned down the line.
Yeah I need the money for sure so I guess I was going to move ahead regardless of what replies I got here.
Im just going to have to do it and know that IM not intentionally selling it off as molly . But Jesus I swear these people out here have no problem buying "m1 molly"
Crazy!


It's because 80% of these people buying have NO knowledge of what they're buying, and don't seem to even care! Take nBOMe 25i/25c for an example, I could go to any college/hood/club area In my City and say I'm selling acid or LSD and get any easy 7-15$ profit PER blotter. Why? Because some of these people are so amazed with the fact I have a square cm piece of paper with pretty colors, they will buy without even questioning the legitimacy of the product. Just because It's not "the norm" around here.

Totally understand what your saying about not wanting to pass It off as Molly. But take somebody selling Cocaine for example. Generally they're gonna tell you It's "the best In the city" or "pure". So you buy a gram of It anywhere from 80-120$ take It home to your testing kit, and find out It's 30% cocaine, 40% caffeine, 10% baking soda, and a the rest a random series of chemicals you've never even heard of! THESE are the people I have a problem with.

You flippin M1 at least you know what your puttin out there, but these motherfuckers are marketing a product having NO idea what It even Is just to make quick buck, and will tell you ANYTHING just to sell It with no regards of human life whatsoever. You def. seem like you know what your doing, and personally I see nothing wrong with your plan.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Cynosure on April 07, 2013, 09:31 pm
SuperTrips has always come through on my orders.  I highly recommend him for international orders.

I had no intentions of selling.  I simply wanted a life-time supply of goods as I cannot find MDMA in person (and if I do, it isn't MDMA).  I made a hefty order of 10g (mind you, hefty for personal use).  I figured ~100 doses would last me and a few friends a few years.  I donated a few caps to a friend's party just after the package arrived.  The party blew up and people, that evening and all that weekend, were trying to figure out where they came from.

One thing led to another, and I ended up setting up a re-selling type thing through two of my good friends (who have been dealing my mushrooms for quite some time).  None of the buyers know who I am, these two kids are reliable and in dire need of money, and the product is in high demand.  They started at $20 for 125mg (the resellers were selling for $25) and were selling fast.  I took them down to $15 so my resellers could take them down to $20.  All 80 doses gone in 5 days to only friends-of-friends inside our circle.  ~$1,500 was made on a product, not including the re-sellers' ~$400, that cost only ~$360.  In 5 days.

I re-upped and am now just hanging out for a bit.  The money is incredible.. like I haven't even made so much money this quickly from growing marijuana/mushrooms with low production costs.  I need to make a plan, secure up a bit, etc. before I let any more out of my hands.

I do plan on moving up with this if I can.  It just needs to be done intelligently.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: calicojak on April 07, 2013, 09:45 pm
Ok fellow mdma sellers here's my situation, what would you do?

I've only sold small amounts to a select few people here locally and its amazing how many people are ignorant to what real mdma is! These people have been taking M1 and don't know any better until I put them on the real shit , its fucking crazy!
A guy I know sells "Molly" and had a few nights ago I let him try some of my stuff and he said he's never felt that feeling before! What!?? How in the fuck do you  sell "molly" but never actually even rolled before lol!?
The game is certainly fucked up!

Here's my predicament; he wants me to sell him "molly" which he now knows is m1 since trying the real shit. He has a huge clientele base in the city next door and they all buy up and love M1 apparently lol.
I want to get into the market and with him I can directly sell him oz's of m1 for 400 an o and he will keep coming back. Seems good deal because of course we can get m1 for cheap on here through China.
I don't like the fact that the sell m1 as molly but the people do buy and they do come back so there is a market.
Me personally I wouldn't sell m1 and claim it to be mdma but this guy knows what it is and still wants it so Im thinking hard about this. I would still keep the real deal for me and my people but would sell him m1 (like i said he knows exactly what it is now) which he would sell to some other dealers. He makes a profit and so do I plus I only have to deal with 1 person which is what I want.

How's all this sounding?

I am in a similar situation to you. I am a large wholesaler of MDMA in my area and I'm pretty much *the* guy to go to for it..I have a reputation that precedes me. A big client of mine approached me about bk-mdma/M1 as well and gave me a 400/oz price point and wants a half pound straight up. You know the prices so you know that's easy money. I jumped on it. Honestly...I don't know if he is selling it as Molly because I don't ask. I tell him what it is and I tell him to never mention he gets it from me because it's HIS product. He also resells MDMA so I'm unsure if he informs his clientele that it is bk. M1 is not bad, it has its time and place. And if someone buys bk at mdma prices because they don't test their drugs, I don't even really think they deserve to have a real mdma experience, they will be happy with bk :)
Yep similar situation, I guess I have to realize what you said; once its sold its no longer my product. Thanks for replying.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: calicojak on April 07, 2013, 09:53 pm
Thanks for replying imghost9...

Yeah man Im thinking along those lines. These are hood sellers that don't leave the block hardly so the people they sell to are regulars..so obviously to me they must like the way it makes them feel or the wouldn't return. That makes me feel a little bette. But you're right somebody probably will get burned down the line.
Yeah I need the money for sure so I guess I was going to move ahead regardless of what replies I got here.
Im just going to have to do it and know that IM not intentionally selling it off as molly . But Jesus I swear these people out here have no problem buying "m1 molly"
Crazy!


It's because 80% of these people buying have NO knowledge of what they're buying, and don't seem to even care! Take nBOMe 25i/25c for an example, I could go to any college/hood/club area In my City and say I'm selling acid or LSD and get any easy 7-15$ profit PER blotter. Why? Because some of these people are so amazed with the fact I have a square cm piece of paper with pretty colors, they will buy without even questioning the legitimacy of the product. Just because It's not "the norm" around here.

Totally understand what your saying about not wanting to pass It off as Molly. But take somebody selling Cocaine for example. Generally they're gonna tell you It's "the best In the city" or "pure". So you buy a gram of It anywhere from 80-120$ take It home to your testing kit, and find out It's 30% cocaine, 40% caffeine, 10% baking soda, and a the rest a random series of chemicals you've never even heard of! THESE are the people I have a problem with.

You flippin M1 at least you know what your puttin out there, but these motherfuckers are marketing a product having NO idea what It even Is just to make quick buck, and will tell you ANYTHING just to sell It with no regards of human life whatsoever. You def. seem like you know what your doing, and personally I see nothing wrong with your plan.
Thanks again man. There is a big difference selling unknown substances as something else and selling legit m1. Just some folks don't know that m1 ain't molly is all. But once it out my hands its the dealers business and not mine. I keep going back to the fact these people keep coming back to him to buy it so they have to like it. Makes me feel better when I think of it like that lol.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: STfish on April 08, 2013, 10:47 pm
Thanks for replying imghost9...

Yeah man Im thinking along those lines. These are hood sellers that don't leave the block hardly so the people they sell to are regulars..so obviously to me they must like the way it makes them feel or the wouldn't return. That makes me feel a little bette. But you're right somebody probably will get burned down the line.
Yeah I need the money for sure so I guess I was going to move ahead regardless of what replies I got here.
Im just going to have to do it and know that IM not intentionally selling it off as molly . But Jesus I swear these people out here have no problem buying "m1 molly"
Crazy!


It's because 80% of these people buying have NO knowledge of what they're buying, and don't seem to even care! Take nBOMe 25i/25c for an example, I could go to any college/hood/club area In my City and say I'm selling acid or LSD and get any easy 7-15$ profit PER blotter. Why? Because some of these people are so amazed with the fact I have a square cm piece of paper with pretty colors, they will buy without even questioning the legitimacy of the product. Just because It's not "the norm" around here.

Totally understand what your saying about not wanting to pass It off as Molly. But take somebody selling Cocaine for example. Generally they're gonna tell you It's "the best In the city" or "pure". So you buy a gram of It anywhere from 80-120$ take It home to your testing kit, and find out It's 30% cocaine, 40% caffeine, 10% baking soda, and a the rest a random series of chemicals you've never even heard of! THESE are the people I have a problem with.

You flippin M1 at least you know what your puttin out there, but these motherfuckers are marketing a product having NO idea what It even Is just to make quick buck, and will tell you ANYTHING just to sell It with no regards of human life whatsoever. You def. seem like you know what your doing, and personally I see nothing wrong with your plan.
Thanks again man. There is a big difference selling unknown substances as something else and selling legit m1. Just some folks don't know that m1 ain't molly is all. But once it out my hands its the dealers business and not mine. I keep going back to the fact these people keep coming back to him to buy it so they have to like it. Makes me feel better when I think of it like that lol.

Selling the M1 to the guy is fine, but I would do it in a way that he doesn't know it's coming from me (and that's where our plans differentiate). Personally I would tell the guy that I was getting it from someone else, and that I would have them drop it off to him whenever he had the money. The 3rd person involved in the deal would be someone that I trust and would pay them 20 bucks (or more depending on how much you are having delivered and how much profit you are planning to make). This way IF the guy selling M1 happens to get busted, you aren't connected. He's going to rat out your delivery guy. LE is going to have said delivery guy under watch, and if it is a hood dealer like you said, word will get around that he got busted, which means you don't sell him jack shit any more, not even anything legally haha. Worst case scenario is that police raid the drivers house, bust him little to no evidence (because he doesn't have any drugs on him, you only give him product right before delivery) and the case goes cold. This IS alot of work just to maintain anonymous but in the long run I have seen it go down very well and LOTS and LOTS of money has been made.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on April 09, 2013, 07:41 am
Selling the M1 to the guy is fine, but I would do it in a way that he doesn't know it's coming from me (and that's where our plans differentiate). Personally I would tell the guy that I was getting it from someone else, and that I would have them drop it off to him whenever he had the money. The 3rd person involved in the deal would be someone that I trust and would pay them 20 bucks (or more depending on how much you are having delivered and how much profit you are planning to make). This way IF the guy selling M1 happens to get busted, you aren't connected. He's going to rat out your delivery guy. LE is going to have said delivery guy under watch, and if it is a hood dealer like you said, word will get around that he got busted, which means you don't sell him jack shit any more, not even anything legally haha. Worst case scenario is that police raid the drivers house, bust him little to no evidence (because he doesn't have any drugs on him, you only give him product right before delivery) and the case goes cold. This IS alot of work just to maintain anonymous but in the long run I have seen it go down very well and LOTS and LOTS of money has been made.

Just make sure the driver is someone knowledgeable and confident enough to not rat you out when he gets questioned by the police.

I don't see any ethical issues with the M1 / Methylone situation.  Your job as a seller is to sell, in an honest fashion, the product that your buyer wants.  Your buyers wants M1.  What he does with it after the transaction is completely up to him, and if his buyers don't like the product then it will all be irrelevant because he won't need to buy M1 from you any more (because of lost customers).

As with everything I would say that a happy customer is a safer customer for you as a seller.  Happy buyers will be more likely to protect you whereas unhappy buyers will be more careless and possibly even vengeful.  Always remember that law enforcement likes to work their way up the ladder and you are a good way up it...
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on April 09, 2013, 07:03 pm
I sell M1. I call it molly but explain to those who care to listen exactly what it is. No one cares if it's BK they care if it gets them high.

haha yeah.... this is the point im at too.

i call it molly and if any questions are asked i give them a rundown of what bk-mdma is.

besides, i sell it at 2 for 15  (2 120 mg caps) or at 60 a g. everybody has been shitting there pants because all thats gone around is bk but my bk is cheap as FUCK.

i have been against selling methylone as molly for some time now, but when someone on this forum (maybe you) said that it basically IS molly to the uninitiated, i couldnt help but agree with that logic.

and it goes FAST.
nothing sells like this bk... foreal....
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: imghost9 on April 10, 2013, 03:08 am
 Any suggestions on top M1 (price & quality) vendors?
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on April 10, 2013, 05:11 am
Any suggestions on top M1 (price & quality) vendors?
well ive bought from lwong and the movement.

the movements moonrocks have more of a color to them. they are a little tannish.

lwongs moonrocks are clear. glassy as fuck and pure as fuck.

i would say the movements m1 would look better to an experience "roller", but lwongs product is of *slightly* higher quality.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: rrrop on April 10, 2013, 11:19 pm
Ok fellow mdma sellers here's my situation, what would you do?

I've only sold small amounts to a select few people here locally and its amazing how many people are ignorant to what real mdma is! These people have been taking M1 and don't know any better until I put them on the real shit , its fucking crazy!
A guy I know sells "Molly" and had a few nights ago I let him try some of my stuff and he said he's never felt that feeling before! What!?? How in the fuck do you  sell "molly" but never actually even rolled before lol!?
The game is certainly fucked up!

Here's my predicament; he wants me to sell him "molly" which he now knows is m1 since trying the real shit. He has a huge clientele base in the city next door and they all buy up and love M1 apparently lol.
I want to get into the market and with him I can directly sell him oz's of m1 for 400 an o and he will keep coming back. Seems good deal because of course we can get m1 for cheap on here through China.
I don't like the fact that the sell m1 as molly but the people do buy and they do come back so there is a market.
Me personally I wouldn't sell m1 and claim it to be mdma but this guy knows what it is and still wants it so Im thinking hard about this. I would still keep the real deal for me and my people but would sell him m1 (like i said he knows exactly what it is now) which he would sell to some other dealers. He makes a profit and so do I plus I only have to deal with 1 person which is what I want.

How's all this sounding?

Dude your In a situation similar to mine, but I can make a 1000 an O easy over here (If passed of for molly)... It's really all up to your morals and standards. Me personally, I'm here to make money....

I mean this Is the drug game there's no rules you have to follow, and obviously people are gonna get burned. I realize most people would assume I'm a horrible person for this, but I got a family to feed and there way more important to me then a group of ignorant college kids that will take anything there dealer sells them. It's up to you man but If you need money like some of us need money you'll do anything to get It and this Isn't to bad of an option for you right now!

imghost9, I disagree with your methods and views on this completely. I'm a wholesale supplier for MDMA in my region and have a reputation to uphold, as does the drug we all know and love. When you sell something as MDMA, and it's not comparable, you are tarnishing its' reputation and the market. As a supplier, I've also been a whole sale buyer - and if you sold me "MDMA" for 1k/O, and I tested it (AS I WOULD ANYTHING), I now know that you flat lied to me to me. It is your responsibility as a seller to verify the product you sold, and on those grounds I would be under the assumption you knew exactly what you did.
You would then have a major problem on your hands, and money would be the last of your concerns.

You are correct however in that this is a drug business. You are wrong when you say there is not rules to follow. The authority that comes down on you when you are caught breaking these rules is not your local LE, it is me or the next guy who you try to fuck. If you plan on being a part of this business, and chose to operate as the liar you say you are, understand there will be consequences.

This may be a drug business, but you had better respect it and if you want to play a part in it, be a professional.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: slysamuel0109 on April 10, 2013, 11:59 pm
Ok fellow mdma sellers here's my situation, what would you do?

I've only sold small amounts to a select few people here locally and its amazing how many people are ignorant to what real mdma is! These people have been taking M1 and don't know any better until I put them on the real shit , its fucking crazy!
A guy I know sells "Molly" and had a few nights ago I let him try some of my stuff and he said he's never felt that feeling before! What!?? How in the fuck do you  sell "molly" but never actually even rolled before lol!?
The game is certainly fucked up!

Here's my predicament; he wants me to sell him "molly" which he now knows is m1 since trying the real shit. He has a huge clientele base in the city next door and they all buy up and love M1 apparently lol.
I want to get into the market and with him I can directly sell him oz's of m1 for 400 an o and he will keep coming back. Seems good deal because of course we can get m1 for cheap on here through China.
I don't like the fact that the sell m1 as molly but the people do buy and they do come back so there is a market.
Me personally I wouldn't sell m1 and claim it to be mdma but this guy knows what it is and still wants it so Im thinking hard about this. I would still keep the real deal for me and my people but would sell him m1 (like i said he knows exactly what it is now) which he would sell to some other dealers. He makes a profit and so do I plus I only have to deal with 1 person which is what I want.

How's all this sounding?

Dude your In a situation similar to mine, but I can make a 1000 an O easy over here (If passed of for molly)... It's really all up to your morals and standards. Me personally, I'm here to make money....

I mean this Is the drug game there's no rules you have to follow, and obviously people are gonna get burned. I realize most people would assume I'm a horrible person for this, but I got a family to feed and there way more important to me then a group of ignorant college kids that will take anything there dealer sells them. It's up to you man but If you need money like some of us need money you'll do anything to get It and this Isn't to bad of an option for you right now!

imghost9, I disagree with your methods and views on this completely. I'm a wholesale supplier for MDMA in my region and have a reputation to uphold, as does the drug we all know and love. When you sell something as MDMA, and it's not comparable, you are tarnishing its' reputation and the market. As a supplier, I've also been a whole sale buyer - and if you sold me "MDMA" for 1k/O, and I tested it (AS I WOULD ANYTHING), I now know that you flat lied to me to me. It is your responsibility as a seller to verify the product you sold, and on those grounds I would be under the assumption you knew exactly what you did.
You would then have a major problem on your hands, and money would be the last of your concerns.

You are correct however in that this is a drug business. You are wrong when you say there is not rules to follow. The authority that comes down on you when you are caught breaking these rules is not your local LE, it is me or the next guy who you try to fuck. If you plan on being a part of this business, and chose to operate as the liar you say you are, understand there will be consequences.

This may be a drug business, but you had better respect it and if you want to play a part in it, be a professional.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
+1!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: onefishtwofishredfishblue on April 11, 2013, 12:08 am
subbing for fun
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: southern m1 on April 19, 2013, 04:09 am
I would like to say that I am now selling m1 priced lowest on SR.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: teqno on April 19, 2013, 08:43 am
Whether its real or immitation, if its fire and uncut on your end it pretty much will sell itself and also bring more exposure. "Don't tell no one its from me"  that  won't
Work. Its human nature for some once they hear those 7 words they have to tell someone and then they'll say those 7 words and so on.  How you run it depends on how much your thinking of pushing let's say per round. I won't say to much if your thinking to make real money ,get a couple drug free runners, yes drugfree they're out there as i got 4 under me.  Greed is a very deadly thing. A great motivator when used right but also can lead to ones downfall.

Also, rolls are cheap where you are. My guys push em for $20 a pop $25 if the demand on the strain is high. $180 on 10 packs. at big venues $25 all day long as the stock is something people have a demand for. Mollys we do $60-$85 a gram and up depending on how good it is. The gear just flies off the shelf. Especially college cats and the older crowds at clubs. Rolls i finds the younger cats enjoy em more.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: 46andtwo on April 19, 2013, 07:13 pm
Subscribing for good info^
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: thisworld on April 19, 2013, 07:34 pm
I would like to say that I am now selling m1 priced lowest on SR.

Southern M1: GTFO.  First of all, did you not read the title to this thread? Second, you're a 'vendor' with 1 transaction, 0% positive feedback, 68 forum posts and 0/-3 karma.  did you think this was going to get a good response or build customers? Thirdly, you DON'T have the cheapest M1 on the road.

This thread was going great for a while,  Then it went to shit.  I guess nobody actually read the title... :/  I love illiterate people who post in the wrong topics!   

/rant
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Bronangen on April 20, 2013, 05:58 am
AFTERHOUR+INTERWAYS+DUTCHTRADE ALL DAMN DAY
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: MDUK on April 20, 2013, 11:34 am
Ok fellow mdma sellers here's my situation, what would you do?

I've only sold small amounts to a select few people here locally and its amazing how many people are ignorant to what real mdma is! These people have been taking M1 and don't know any better until I put them on the real shit , its fucking crazy!
A guy I know sells "Molly" and had a few nights ago I let him try some of my stuff and he said he's never felt that feeling before! What!?? How in the fuck do you  sell "molly" but never actually even rolled before lol!?
The game is certainly fucked up!

Here's my predicament; he wants me to sell him "molly" which he now knows is m1 since trying the real shit. He has a huge clientele base in the city next door and they all buy up and love M1 apparently lol.
I want to get into the market and with him I can directly sell him oz's of m1 for 400 an o and he will keep coming back. Seems good deal because of course we can get m1 for cheap on here through China.
I don't like the fact that the sell m1 as molly but the people do buy and they do come back so there is a market.
Me personally I wouldn't sell m1 and claim it to be mdma but this guy knows what it is and still wants it so Im thinking hard about this. I would still keep the real deal for me and my people but would sell him m1 (like i said he knows exactly what it is now) which he would sell to some other dealers. He makes a profit and so do I plus I only have to deal with 1 person which is what I want.

How's all this sounding?

Dude your In a situation similar to mine, but I can make a 1000 an O easy over here (If passed of for molly)... It's really all up to your morals and standards. Me personally, I'm here to make money....

I mean this Is the drug game there's no rules you have to follow, and obviously people are gonna get burned. I realize most people would assume I'm a horrible person for this, but I got a family to feed and there way more important to me then a group of ignorant college kids that will take anything there dealer sells them. It's up to you man but If you need money like some of us need money you'll do anything to get It and this Isn't to bad of an option for you right now!

imghost9, I disagree with your methods and views on this completely. I'm a wholesale supplier for MDMA in my region and have a reputation to uphold, as does the drug we all know and love. When you sell something as MDMA, and it's not comparable, you are tarnishing its' reputation and the market. As a supplier, I've also been a whole sale buyer - and if you sold me "MDMA" for 1k/O, and I tested it (AS I WOULD ANYTHING), I now know that you flat lied to me to me. It is your responsibility as a seller to verify the product you sold, and on those grounds I would be under the assumption you knew exactly what you did.
You would then have a major problem on your hands, and money would be the last of your concerns.

You are correct however in that this is a drug business. You are wrong when you say there is not rules to follow. The authority that comes down on you when you are caught breaking these rules is not your local LE, it is me or the next guy who you try to fuck. If you plan on being a part of this business, and chose to operate as the liar you say you are, understand there will be consequences.

This may be a drug business, but you had better respect it and if you want to play a part in it, be a professional.
You get my + karma for the day.

I can't stand people who misrepresent their drugs. Particularly MDMA.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: rrrop on April 21, 2013, 02:02 am

You get my + karma for the day.

I can't stand people who misrepresent their drugs. Particularly MDMA.

:D, we're on the same page. But, can you/someone explain to me what Karma is/how i can give it too? Forum noob.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: PBmolly on April 23, 2013, 09:08 am
Bk/M1 has flooded the market in my area and it is just now starting to take a turn for the better, thanks to some friends and a little help from myself and others that know of this crazy ass amazon for drugs web site. But it got pretty bad, I know many people that are hooked on Bk and even prefer it to real pure MDMA. No joke I had a customer purchase 120mg from me for a tester and he railed the entire thing in one line, he didn't even wait 15 min to start laying out a line of bk after he just did a line of the real stuff. He knows all about bk but still prefers it.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on April 23, 2013, 02:18 pm
Bk/M1 has flooded the market in my area and it is just now starting to take a turn for the better, thanks to some friends and a little help from myself and others that know of this crazy ass amazon for drugs web site. But it got pretty bad, I know many people that are hooked on Bk and even prefer it to real pure MDMA. No joke I had a customer purchase 120mg from me for a tester and he railed the entire thing in one line, he didn't even wait 15 min to start laying out a line of bk after he just did a line of the real stuff. He knows all about bk but still prefers it.

haha, i mean its its own drug for sure. its a lot more "tweaky" and "morish"

but, when you binge all night on it, and wake up the next day with only a slight hangover, you just want to high-five yourself for taking bk instead of the real deal! xD
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: smores on April 23, 2013, 03:48 pm
I don't see why anyone would sell M1 as MDMA, rather than just selling MDMA as MDMA.

In the US, you can easily spend $850 on SR, getting an OZ of great MDMA, and another $50 on a scale/capsule filler/and capsules from the Clearnet.

Then you have two options,

1. Sell it by the gram to others, 10x100mg capsules for $75.
28grams x $75 = $2100 - $900 =
$1200 PROFIT

2. Sell it by the capsule, people will pay $10 per 100mg capsule all day. You can charge more at events, although I charge $15 for 2x100mg to my regular customers (I'll explain this later).
28grams x 10 (caps per gram) = 280 x $10ea = $2800
$2800-$900 =
$1900 PROFIT

Now all of this is just off of an OZ, and profits will only expand when you start buying more.

The great thing about MDMA is, it is currently exploding in popularity. Before it was mainly only popular in the rave scene, but now thanks to rap music becoming obsessed with it, every ghetto/suburban/college/etc. kid with $20 wants to try it. It sells itself.

Rather than trying to make the quick buck flipping M1 for a bit larger profit from that one sale, think about the long term. You will quickly lose your customers when they get a taste of real MDMA, but if you are the one selling the MDMA, you're going to develop long term customers which come back week after week.

5 sales with a profit of $10 each is better than 3 sales with a profit of $15 ea.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on April 23, 2013, 03:58 pm
lol if you sell bk, as bk, it still moves faster than mdma.

promise  ;)

but no, selling actual mdma and giving people that experience is amazing as well!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: smores on April 23, 2013, 04:13 pm
lol if you sell bk, as bk, it still moves faster than mdma.

promise  ;)

but no, selling actual mdma and giving people that experience is amazing as well!

Whats your selling point of Bk? I thought about marketing it as a "cheap adderall like drug", just a booster for parties or studying, but I wasn't sure how this would go.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on April 23, 2013, 04:27 pm
lol if you sell bk, as bk, it still moves faster than mdma.

promise  ;)

but no, selling actual mdma and giving people that experience is amazing as well!

Whats your selling point of Bk? I thought about marketing it as a "cheap adderall like drug", just a booster for parties or studying, but I wasn't sure how this would go.

i mean it is literally mdma with a beta-ketone addition.

it has one third the serotonin release so its safer for your brain and the comedown is much less intense.
it has the same dopamine and norepinephrine release

you can redose, and it will almost always work.
i sold it at 2 tenths for 15, and when you take two tenths at once, you get pretty zooted.
not as much as mdma but youll still be feeling waves of euphoria.

people loved that price, and you probably arent ever going to sell mdma that cheap  ::)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: smores on April 23, 2013, 04:36 pm
lol if you sell bk, as bk, it still moves faster than mdma.

promise  ;)

but no, selling actual mdma and giving people that experience is amazing as well!

Whats your selling point of Bk? I thought about marketing it as a "cheap adderall like drug", just a booster for parties or studying, but I wasn't sure how this would go.

i mean it is literally mdma with a beta-ketone addition.

it has one third the serotonin release so its safer for your brain and the comedown is much less intense.
it has the same dopamine and norepinephrine release

you can redose, and it will almost always work.
i sold it at 2 tenths for 15, and when you take two tenths at once, you get pretty zooted.
not as much as mdma but youll still be feeling waves of euphoria.

people loved that price, and you probably arent ever going to sell mdma that cheap  ::)

Actually if you read above, thats what I sell my MDMA at.

and maybe I wasn't doing enough M1, when I did it, it just felt speedy. I can't remember now how much I was doing, but maybe I'll buy a gram and try a heavier dose.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on April 23, 2013, 04:39 pm
lol if you sell bk, as bk, it still moves faster than mdma.

promise  ;)

but no, selling actual mdma and giving people that experience is amazing as well!

Whats your selling point of Bk? I thought about marketing it as a "cheap adderall like drug", just a booster for parties or studying, but I wasn't sure how this would go.

i mean it is literally mdma with a beta-ketone addition.

it has one third the serotonin release so its safer for your brain and the comedown is much less intense.
it has the same dopamine and norepinephrine release

you can redose, and it will almost always work.
i sold it at 2 tenths for 15, and when you take two tenths at once, you get pretty zooted.
not as much as mdma but youll still be feeling waves of euphoria.

people loved that price, and you probably arent ever going to sell mdma that cheap  ::)

Actually if you read above, thats what I sell my MDMA at.

and maybe I wasn't doing enough M1, when I did it, it just felt speedy. I can't remember now how much I was doing, but maybe I'll buy a gram and try a heavier dose.
if you sell them two at a time for that cheap, kudos.

come to my neighborhood i'll stop fucking with sr hahaha
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: smores on April 23, 2013, 04:44 pm
if you sell them two at a time for that cheap, kudos.

come to my neighborhood i'll stop fucking with sr hahaha

I'm not a huge dealer or anything, this is just a bit of a side job. I only move around an OZ a month, at that price it just brings in about an extra $1000 monthly.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: x24x24x on April 24, 2013, 12:21 am
What's the best way to fill caps?
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on April 24, 2013, 01:17 am
What's the best way to fill caps?
the BEST, or the most efficient?

the BEST way is to get a hundredths scale. put maybe a gram on the scale at a time, fill a cap up till the scale reads .9, and you will have an accurate tenth in a capsule. repeat process till gram is gone, then drop another g on the scale and start again.

now, the most efficient way.~~~~>crush all of your mdma rocks finely. weigh out ONE tenth and put it in whatever type of capsules you have. REMEMBER how much mdma is in that capsule, and just fill them all with the same amount.

the way i fill my caps is by literally pouring the molly out onto a table, and scooping it into the caps until they are appropriately full.

hope this helps  ;)

Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Mcrad on April 24, 2013, 01:54 am
What's the best way to fill caps?

i think the best way to weigh out capsules is:

step 1: get a deck of cards (ones without holes punched in the middle)

step 2: get a hundredths scale (0.001)

step 3: tare the cards weight from the scale making it 0.00 when the card is on the scale.

step 4: weigh out 0.10 on the card then set that card to the side.

step 5: put another card on from your deck.

step 6: repeat steps 4 and 5:)


hope this helps. much love_ mcrad!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on April 24, 2013, 03:52 am
the way i fill my caps is by literally pouring the molly out onto a table, and scooping it into the caps until they are appropriately full.

hope this helps  ;)

This is what I do but my scale only goes to .01g so supposedly my caps could be off by as much as .001 (10mg) or so hypothetically.  I weight them out individually and was unable to find a scale at my smoke shop that goes to .001g.  Wavelength's method of eyeballing it would also work fine.  I'm at the point where weighing each cap is almost a formality... after capping thousands of them over time you can get it pretty accurate on the first try.

Capping the molly is probably the most tedious part of the operation in my opinion.  Sand is also more of a hassle to hide than caps, IMHO.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: flwrchlds9 on April 24, 2013, 03:54 am
I don't see why anyone would sell M1 as MDMA, rather than just selling MDMA as MDMA.

because most IRL users are some of the stupidest MF ever. you can sell them shiny things for $$$$ and tell them anything you want. they like shiny things, like girls. no smart reason for it  ;)

if in USA, you say to them, this FIRE BOMB SHARD SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT best EVR... they buy rock salt for $100/g  ;D

and many IRL so call DEALERS are in same level of IQ and were told this is BEST EVR FIRE BOMB SHARD SHIIIIIIT from person they get from that screwing them hard with BK  ;D

DON sell BK as MDMA!  >:(
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: flwrchlds9 on April 24, 2013, 04:17 am
imghost9, I disagree with your methods and views on this completely. I'm a wholesale supplier for MDMA in my region and have a reputation to uphold, as does the drug we all know and love. When you sell something as MDMA, and it's not comparable, you are tarnishing its' reputation and the market. As a supplier, I've also been a whole sale buyer - and if you sold me "MDMA" for 1k/O, and I tested it (AS I WOULD ANYTHING), I now know that you flat lied to me to me. It is your responsibility as a seller to verify the product you sold, and on those grounds I would be under the assumption you knew exactly what you did.
You would then have a major problem on your hands, and money would be the last of your concerns.

You are correct however in that this is a drug business. You are wrong when you say there is not rules to follow. The authority that comes down on you when you are caught breaking these rules is not your local LE, it is me or the next guy who you try to fuck. If you plan on being a part of this business, and chose to operate as the liar you say you are, understand there will be consequences.

This may be a drug business, but you had better respect it and if you want to play a part in it, be a professional.

YES.

Sell bulk to your guy telling them what it is and tell them not to lie about it. Really all you can do.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Mcrad on April 24, 2013, 04:38 am
a lot of people in the US are looking for cash, not enegy a dollar amount, not an experience.

Best way to do it....

Be honest, be kind, and be generous!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Sero Tonin on April 24, 2013, 04:54 am
god my friend wants 100 caps soon and im going...FUUUUUCK
cause what i do is.
take all my damn molly
crush it to about the size of a small pebble.
take my scale .001 and then put the plate over it.
tear. weigh out between 100-107mg
have my capsule in a small pocket to where it stands freely
and i use a makeshit small funnel to dump the plate into
tap the plate so dust falls off
tap funnel around so that dust goes into capsule.
seal capsule...repeat
i use small measuring spoons too. so im not sitting there with my fingers
and tweezers when i go over my mark.

im thinking of doing the card idea
just folding up a deck and then setting them off to the side and then mass funnel lol
sounds like a good idea tbh
just need to go buy more capsules...
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Mcrad on April 24, 2013, 05:11 am
god my friend wants 100 caps soon and im going...FUUUUUCK
cause what i do is.
take all my damn molly
crush it to about the size of a small pebble.
take my scale .001 and then put the plate over it.
tear. weigh out between 100-107mg
have my capsule in a small pocket to where it stands freely
and i use a makeshit small funnel to dump the plate into
tap the plate so dust falls off
tap funnel around so that dust goes into capsule.
seal capsule...repeat
i use small measuring spoons too. so im not sitting there with my fingers
and tweezers when i go over my mark.

im thinking of doing the card idea
just folding up a deck and then setting them off to the side and then mass funnel lol
sounds like a good idea tbh
just need to go buy more capsules...


the funnel and the cards working together would be like a capsule making machine:) haha, yeah the cards are very good. i use 2 bowls for the capsules, 1 for empty and 1 for full... i also use a plate to dump the MDMA onto before weighing it out, scoop with one card and dump onto another card already torn on the scale. then move a fresh card on and dump. once you have all 52 cards with powder on them, then capsule that shit out:)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: zebra420kitty on April 24, 2013, 06:30 am
Best way to make money selling mdma in my opinion.

Now when i was younger i sold to only life long friends, so i sold it anywhere from 5-9 a point depending how much i felt the other person valued our friendship instead of valued my drugs.

Now that im slightly older, im selling it at 15/ point 120/g. This is not because im a greedy bastard. (well sorta :D) but many poeple will pay high dollar for pure rock mdma. So i never crush my mdma. I leave it in rocks and sell all the powder to my mates.

I now sell at .1 for 10 to my friends and if they get with more of my friends then ill do break downs. Often times when i go to raves ill give all my friends what i get it at if they sell 20 caps for me to their friends. this takes some of the heat off of me, and i coach them who/who not to sell to. basically, if you cant trust them with your life then dont sell to them.

It also really helps to have a really cute girl to sell caps for you. Ive gone to raves and had girls sell for me. have them sell it at 20/point. they keep 7$ dollars a cap if they sell all of what they have. ect.

sorry for spotty advice, but hope i helped some
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on April 24, 2013, 07:48 am
Now that im slightly older, im selling it at 15/ point 120/g. This is not because im a greedy bastard. (well sorta :D) but many poeple will pay high dollar for pure rock mdma. So i never crush my mdma. I leave it in rocks and sell all the powder to my mates.

I now sell at .1 for 10 to my friends and if they get with more of my friends then ill do break downs. Often times when i go to raves ill give all my friends what i get it at if they sell 20 caps for me to their friends. this takes some of the heat off of me, and i coach them who/who not to sell to. basically, if you cant trust them with your life then dont sell to them.

It also really helps to have a really cute girl to sell caps for you. Ive gone to raves and had girls sell for me. have them sell it at 20/point. they keep 7$ dollars a cap if they sell all of what they have. ect.

You sound a lot like me.  Ideally I'd prefer selling powder / rocks instead of caps because then the MDMA wouldn't be on my property for as long.  Have a cute girl (who I used to hook up with) do work at the clubs almost 7 night a week.  As time goes on my transactions become more "bulk" and so the transactions / $ amount goes down.  Every customer we have is a "loose end".  It'd be nice to eventually take a step back and have the MDMA go to their mailbox directly and just take a cut but that brings up issues of its own.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: weirdal on May 04, 2013, 09:27 pm
That card trick works pretty well, but the powder seems to stick to the cards..  I guess it's only a problem for the first few caps till the card is coated though.  It's difficult to put large rocks into number 3 caps and those 0 caps are horse pills for small amounts of molly.  Also it's a pain to always get the weight right when you're capping rocks. 

When I get rocks, I like to chop off sections, and I've gotten it down to +-5mg.  It's pretty cool when you can put just 1 chunk into each cap.  People straight TRIP when they see that shit! haha. ;)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: novakane on May 06, 2013, 09:34 am
There's a lot of good advice in here, but if you start selling only high quantities than just like caps, it'll save you a lot of time (which you could use on planning your next comeup) and a lot of hassle.  It's a trade-off, but personally I would probably never ever go back to selling by capsules again unless it was for friends or at a show.  I'm biased though I suppose; in my area nobody would ever buy just a capsule lol.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on May 06, 2013, 11:43 pm
There's a lot of good advice in here, but if you start selling only high quantities than just like caps, it'll save you a lot of time (which you could use on planning your next comeup) and a lot of hassle.  It's a trade-off, but personally I would probably never ever go back to selling by capsules again unless it was for friends or at a show.  I'm biased though I suppose; in my area nobody would ever buy just a capsule lol.

Yeah this is what I'm slowly transitioning to.  Having a pile of powder out in my bedroom or living room just is way too risky if the cops (or shady acquaintances) came through.  And since I usually order 50g MDMA at a time you're talking several hours of capping.  My time is better spent doing things that are more productive.  A lot of my clients I would think would be chill with me selling them sand as long as the price is decently discounted.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: S13 on May 06, 2013, 11:56 pm
I thought you left danconia, good to see you still here.  Just sell them quarters, I used to that, its cheaper for the customer.  Makes them come back for more.  On that note I contribute to the forums for today.  Maybe I'll contribute more in 4 or 5 days.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: onefishtwofishredfishblue on May 07, 2013, 01:39 am
might be slightly off topic but this is how i sell

1 point-10 dollars capped
4 points- 40 dollars capped +1 if i like you
10 points-100 dollars capped/ 80 if i like you
40 points-400 dollars and +5 if i like you

i don't really sell more than 50 points at a time

if im selling straight powder/shards to someone
1g-100
2g-200
5g-450
10g-700 uncapped; if they want it capped ill do it for 800; also if i like you 650.  800 (if i hate you). 

i recently hooked up my friends roommate.  found out guy talks big shit, but doesn't deliver.  in short he is scumbag steve who sucks at capping and cuts all points to .09.  came out with 111 points and finished capping his first 100 in 30-35mins.  i told him he should go check the accuracy and this fuck bag had shit from .4-.22.  i told him he needed to fix things.  scumbag steve fixed a few caps, but then realized he had more fuck ups than correct caps.  scumbag steve is too lazy so he puts a big .22 and a .4 in the same little baggie.  scrumbag steve sucks at cutting corners and doing things right.  this is NOT the type of person u want around.  screw him and screw his shitty ways.  all business points up and well this guy is going to get u burned.  good thing this idiot and i are friends on a fake fbook account.  i have been poaching his friends and well its been working.  better price and better quality control.  i tell them im running a "special" and if steve finds out then its over.  things have been solid for the last 3 months :)/  ironically steve has not hit me up for a refill.  lol @ pushing small weight

capping sucks, but once you get good at it you are fine.  i use my shitty .01 scale and put down 10g at a time.  i make sure i get 10 caps per gram and at the end i weigh everything out again.  my scale is +/- .02 (i know) and the jel caps weigh .1; so i make sure each point is .18 to .21.  it does take time and practice, but most people don't know what to do with the powder and or dont know how to dose right.  this will get you in trouble when your dumb friends decide to take molly without using a scale and almost die/seizure out on you.  people (your friends and clients) are stupid.  i much rather cap for them rather than having them od/end up going to the hospital.  most of my friends who pop dont listen to my advise and or play it safe.  you can see how this can turn dumb real quick.  alcohol+coke+adderal+ect+molly well is a sure way to knock you off your feet one day. 

listen to your customer-some people like that clean washed molly others like that yellow semi washed shit.  give them what they like and charge them more/accordingly to what they like.  i make sure i have that yellow shit for people who like yello and clear for those that like clear.  they feel appreciated and i tell them im looking out to get what they want.  now i could explain the differences in the high and or the molly, but they are too ignorant and idiotic to learn shit. 

finally-people don't have money or think of long term.  maybe since im poor im always reaching for that $.  ive always bought in bulk to get discount.  people rather come at me buying 10caps 4x times then coming at me once and getting all 40 points and sit on it.  its not like they are addicted.  just too stupid and or well don't care to play it smart or economical.  i thought it was horrible that my scumbag steve was charging 15 a point, but now that i have thought about it many of my customers are finishing college/working.  they go out and drop $ on food and booze.  why the fuck not drugs?  i do feel for these people, but no one is living pay check by paycheck so although i am getting my stuff cheaper i really should be charging more.  ill have people drive out an hour to me so if they dont know better or anyone else FUCK EM and make that $

fuck-your poor ass friends (always trying to get hooked up although they dont hook it up).  dumb people (they will od/die on you) and or high school kids(no money) "yo bro can i get 2 mollies".  i always keep business and friendship separate.  this is why i don't come to your events/parties ect.  i expect you to pay full price and so u should charge me full entry fee.  secondly if you know someone else who is cheaper then peace-hit them up. 

data-
keep a log of who is good to you and who makes your life a living hell.  start charging those shitbags who make things tough on you more and make it a bit cheaper for those who you like.  people are stupid and expect things to be ready when they are.  too many times have i had people and or lost out on sales when people hit me up a few hours before an event or cut off time.  "yo can u meat me by X by X oclock with X points?"  the FUCK!  also keep a log of who is buying how much and how often.  use this data to allow them to "buy into the system" and let them have a piece of the pie.  some people dont care or dont want to and others will take this as an opportunity to sell to their friends and get hooked up.  why do u have to wait for your client to hit you up? hit up your clients and tell them you have new shit in (even if its old) they won't know and cant tell the difference.  don't be afraid of hitting them up and letting them know u havnt seen them for a while.  make up excuses that you will be out of town this week and or can't fill you in.   as sellers we are in the game and we keep our ear to the ground.  hit up the sheep cause they loose your number/feel awkard ect.  atleast you can track your expected sales per week/month/quarter/year.  this data will help you figure out if you should re-up or buy more ect.  obviously anytime you are out of product u cant make money. 
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: zebra420kitty on May 07, 2013, 02:58 am
onefishtwofish
+1
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wraithe on May 07, 2013, 03:06 am
might be slightly off topic but this is how i sell

1 point-10 dollars capped
4 points- 40 dollars capped +1 if i like you
10 points-100 dollars capped/ 80 if i like you
40 points-400 dollars and +5 if i like you

i don't really sell more than 50 points at a time

if im selling straight powder/shards to someone
1g-100
2g-200
5g-450
10g-700 uncapped; if they want it capped ill do it for 800; also if i like you 650.  800 (if i hate you). 

i recently hooked up my friends roommate.  found out guy talks big shit, but doesn't deliver.  in short he is scumbag steve who sucks at capping and cuts all points to .09.  came out with 111 points and finished capping his first 100 in 30-35mins.  i told him he should go check the accuracy and this fuck bag had shit from .4-.22.  i told him he needed to fix things.  scumbag steve fixed a few caps, but then realized he had more fuck ups than correct caps.  scumbag steve is too lazy so he puts a big .22 and a .4 in the same little baggie.  scrumbag steve sucks at cutting corners and doing things right.  this is NOT the type of person u want around.  screw him and screw his shitty ways.  all business points up and well this guy is going to get u burned.  good thing this idiot and i are friends on a fake fbook account.  i have been poaching his friends and well its been working.  better price and better quality control.  i tell them im running a "special" and if steve finds out then its over.  things have been solid for the last 3 months :)/  ironically steve has not hit me up for a refill.  lol @ pushing small weight

capping sucks, but once you get good at it you are fine.  i use my shitty .01 scale and put down 10g at a time.  i make sure i get 10 caps per gram and at the end i weigh everything out again.  my scale is +/- .02 (i know) and the jel caps weigh .1; so i make sure each point is .18 to .21.  it does take time and practice, but most people don't know what to do with the powder and or dont know how to dose right.  this will get you in trouble when your dumb friends decide to take molly without using a scale and almost die/seizure out on you.  people (your friends and clients) are stupid.  i much rather cap for them rather than having them od/end up going to the hospital.  most of my friends who pop dont listen to my advise and or play it safe.  you can see how this can turn dumb real quick.  alcohol+coke+adderal+ect+molly well is a sure way to knock you off your feet one day. 

listen to your customer-some people like that clean washed molly others like that yellow semi washed shit.  give them what they like and charge them more/accordingly to what they like.  i make sure i have that yellow shit for people who like yello and clear for those that like clear.  they feel appreciated and i tell them im looking out to get what they want.  now i could explain the differences in the high and or the molly, but they are too ignorant and idiotic to learn shit. 

finally-people don't have money or think of long term.  maybe since im poor im always reaching for that $.  ive always bought in bulk to get discount.  people rather come at me buying 10caps 4x times then coming at me once and getting all 40 points and sit on it.  its not like they are addicted.  just too stupid and or well don't care to play it smart or economical.  i thought it was horrible that my scumbag steve was charging 15 a point, but now that i have thought about it many of my customers are finishing college/working.  they go out and drop $ on food and booze.  why the fuck not drugs?  i do feel for these people, but no one is living pay check by paycheck so although i am getting my stuff cheaper i really should be charging more.  ill have people drive out an hour to me so if they dont know better or anyone else FUCK EM and make that $

fuck-your poor ass friends (always trying to get hooked up although they dont hook it up).  dumb people (they will od/die on you) and or high school kids(no money) "yo bro can i get 2 mollies".  i always keep business and friendship separate.  this is why i don't come to your events/parties ect.  i expect you to pay full price and so u should charge me full entry fee.  secondly if you know someone else who is cheaper then peace-hit them up. 

data-
keep a log of who is good to you and who makes your life a living hell.  start charging those shitbags who make things tough on you more and make it a bit cheaper for those who you like.  people are stupid and expect things to be ready when they are.  too many times have i had people and or lost out on sales when people hit me up a few hours before an event or cut off time.  "yo can u meat me by X by X oclock with X points?"  the FUCK!  also keep a log of who is buying how much and how often.  use this data to allow them to "buy into the system" and let them have a piece of the pie.  some people dont care or dont want to and others will take this as an opportunity to sell to their friends and get hooked up.  why do u have to wait for your client to hit you up? hit up your clients and tell them you have new shit in (even if its old) they won't know and cant tell the difference.  don't be afraid of hitting them up and letting them know u havnt seen them for a while.  make up excuses that you will be out of town this week and or can't fill you in.   as sellers we are in the game and we keep our ear to the ground.  hit up the sheep cause they loose your number/feel awkard ect.  atleast you can track your expected sales per week/month/quarter/year.  this data will help you figure out if you should re-up or buy more ect.  obviously anytime you are out of product u cant make money.

+1 that shit could be a small ebook.  maybe add a few pictures especially one of scumbag steve.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: 3eyes on May 07, 2013, 03:45 am
I've had a bit of a hard time getting people interested in Molly. Allot of the ravers want pills only and the effects of MDMA plus whatever is in the pill. Now everyone else, they want Molly all day.

I don't feel as comfortable with pills as I don't want someone to OD for a buck, safe drugs only.  If I didn't care there is all kinds of stuff coke, heroin etc that makes money. Surprised people are getting 120 a gram, guess my people have a good deal. I do believe in PLUR unlike allot of people in this game. I have considered making my own pills that are MDMA, pill binder, and caffeine to give that stimulant kick but it would be allot of cost to serve a few customers.

Best way to do this is to keep it on the DL.  Don't be the guy who slings at the event to anyone, yes the money is great if you want but the risk is insane. Just spend some time getting your name out and let people come to you.  Be the dealer and not the pusher.  The pusher is the guy who texts you every few days "yo dawg I got some fire shit" and kind of pressures you to buy.  But the dealer doesn't have to say shit, the clients come when they are ready. People like you allot more when you don't bother them, this applies in all retail let the customer breath.

As far as capping, I don't do it unless asked since so many people like to finger dab in my area.  Especially the jam band crowd which is allot of my client base.

Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: mnminc2010 on May 07, 2013, 04:04 am
XTCEXPRESS try one of his doubles then talk to me best Ive ever had and a decent price
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: ruby123 on May 07, 2013, 04:19 am
Take an empty cereal box and use a pen to poke holes in sequential lines throughout one side.Measure X amount of substance and place one cap inside the holes in the box.Take X amount of substance and begin filling the caps. You will be able to spoon small amounts while capturing excess substance.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on May 07, 2013, 08:19 am
capping sucks, but once you get good at it you are fine.  i use my shitty .01 scale and put down 10g at a time.  i make sure i get 10 caps per gram and at the end i weigh everything out again.  my scale is +/- .02 (i know) and the jel caps weigh .1; so i make sure each point is .18 to .21.  it does take time and practice, but most people don't know what to do with the powder and or dont know how to dose right.  this will get you in trouble when your dumb friends decide to take molly without using a scale and almost die/seizure out on you.  people (your friends and clients) are stupid.  i much rather cap for them rather than having them od/end up going to the hospital.  most of my friends who pop dont listen to my advise and or play it safe.  you can see how this can turn dumb real quick.  alcohol+coke+adderal+ect+molly well is a sure way to knock you off your feet one day. 

Yeah when I first started out I was selling .125g per cap.  Guys loved it but *girls* are smaller and typically tend to know less about drugs than guys.  I had a couple of incidents of girls vomiting on my MDMA and I realize it'd be better if I reduce the typical amount to .100mg.  Sure enough I did that and my dropped my price just slightly.  Now I don't have to worry as much about drunk girls being careless and 1 cap for girls 2 caps for guys works perfectly.  If someone isn't used to high purity stuff they can get carried away.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: calicojak on May 07, 2013, 04:37 pm
Sorry this isn't exactly on topic but some of you guys Im sure can help.
Im talking about M1.
For the guys that sell M1( not as mdma) how does two points capped for $10 sound?
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Camcudi14 on May 07, 2013, 05:11 pm
Best way to make money selling mdma in my opinion.

Now when i was younger i sold to only life long friends, so i sold it anywhere from 5-9 a point depending how much i felt the other person valued our friendship instead of valued my drugs.

Now that im slightly older, im selling it at 15/ point 120/g. This is not because im a greedy bastard. (well sorta :D) but many poeple will pay high dollar for pure rock mdma. So i never crush my mdma. I leave it in rocks and sell all the powder to my mates.

I now sell at .1 for 10 to my friends and if they get with more of my friends then ill do break downs. Often times when i go to raves ill give all my friends what i get it at if they sell 20 caps for me to their friends. this takes some of the heat off of me, and i coach them who/who not to sell to. basically, if you cant trust them with your life then dont sell to them.

It also really helps to have a really cute girl to sell caps for you. Ive gone to raves and had girls sell for me. have them sell it at 20/point. they keep 7$ dollars a cap if they sell all of what they have. ect.

sorry for spotty advice, but hope i helped some

Same here you sound like my twin. Except my girlfriend helps me sell. I know this is off topic but it I saw it work and if anyone here went to Nocturnal in Texas you probably know what Im talking about. There were at least 50+ girls all dressed about the same moving so much weight for some guys. A buyer would walk up they'd hold hands do a giant circle around a building, exchange money and drugs and separate then the girl would be back with a different guy. I watched this for 3 hours because I was so mad at all the money they were making haha
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: streetelitist on May 07, 2013, 05:17 pm
I've cornered the market for at least a 100 mile radius where I live. I ask where people get there stuff from, and they say "Dude, I got this bomb connect, his shit is fire" & then I test it right in front of them and it 99% of the time, it turns yellow. METHYLONE IS RAMPANT!

I then proceed to offer them the real shit, and everybody converts instantly. I'm known as the candyman in my parts and its quite nice. Every festival I go, I give away at least 50-100 caps. The profit doesn't even matter to me at this point because I'm living comfortably and everybody loves me.

What goes around, comes around.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: type on May 07, 2013, 09:00 pm
I've cornered the market for at least a 100 mile radius where I live. I ask where people get there stuff from, and they say "Dude, I got this bomb connect, his shit is fire" & then I test it right in front of them and it 99% of the time, it turns yellow. METHYLONE IS RAMPANT!

I then proceed to offer them the real shit, and everybody converts instantly. I'm known as the candyman in my parts and its quite nice. Every festival I go, I give away at least 50-100 caps. The profit doesn't even matter to me at this point because I'm living comfortably and everybody loves me.

What goes around, comes around.

This is true, but always remember it takes just one of those people with a bad run in with the police who will rat. A friendly connection instantly evaporates when you're faced with jail time.

I don't move ridiculous amounts, but I am known to have good product. Even being smaller time, I still try to protect myself (burner phones are a good investment no matter how small you are, never carry anything on me etc).
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on May 07, 2013, 09:07 pm
I've cornered the market for at least a 100 mile radius where I live. I ask where people get there stuff from, and they say "Dude, I got this bomb connect, his shit is fire" & then I test it right in front of them and it 99% of the time, it turns yellow. METHYLONE IS RAMPANT!

I then proceed to offer them the real shit, and everybody converts instantly. I'm known as the candyman in my parts and its quite nice. Every festival I go, I give away at least 50-100 caps. The profit doesn't even matter to me at this point because I'm living comfortably and everybody loves me.

What goes around, comes around.

This is true, but always remember it takes just one of those people with a bad run in with the police who will rat. A friendly connection instantly evaporates when you're faced with jail time.

I don't move ridiculous amounts, but I am known to have good product. Even being smaller time, I still try to protect myself (burner phones are a good investment no matter how small you are, never carry anything on me etc).

yea dude, id be easy if i where you.. idk what kind of area you live in, but its besides the point, cause either way you spin it, any of it..in the end, we all have to pay the piper at some point or another. Some of us are just lucky enough NOT to have spent more time IN jail, than OUT.

 From what you say, your MO will now be irreversible..Id try to chill behind the curtain if i where you. Get a protege, some one moral and trust worthy, learn them good, feed them well, and the ball should most always be in your court. Much love dude.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: onefishtwofishredfishblue on May 07, 2013, 09:33 pm
capping sucks, but once you get good at it you are fine.  i use my shitty .01 scale and put down 10g at a time.  i make sure i get 10 caps per gram and at the end i weigh everything out again.  my scale is +/- .02 (i know) and the jel caps weigh .1; so i make sure each point is .18 to .21.  it does take time and practice, but most people don't know what to do with the powder and or dont know how to dose right.  this will get you in trouble when your dumb friends decide to take molly without using a scale and almost die/seizure out on you.  people (your friends and clients) are stupid.  i much rather cap for them rather than having them od/end up going to the hospital.  most of my friends who pop dont listen to my advise and or play it safe.  you can see how this can turn dumb real quick.  alcohol+coke+adderal+ect+molly well is a sure way to knock you off your feet one day. 

Yeah when I first started out I was selling .125g per cap.  Guys loved it but *girls* are smaller and typically tend to know less about drugs than guys.  I had a couple of incidents of girls vomiting on my MDMA and I realize it'd be better if I reduce the typical amount to .100mg.  Sure enough I did that and my dropped my price just slightly.  Now I don't have to worry as much about drunk girls being careless and 1 cap for girls 2 caps for guys works perfectly.  If someone isn't used to high purity stuff they can get carried away.

+1; especially with this stuff coming off the site.  i could do a purity wash, but i feel quality is so much higher that well it would merely cut into my profits.  a friend (chemist) suggested that i wash personal amounts for myself.  imo girls always end up taking too much for their weight and throw up/feel better.  their weird way of indicating that the shit was good. 
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: onefishtwofishredfishblue on May 07, 2013, 10:40 pm
I've had a bit of a hard time getting people interested in Molly. Allot of the ravers want pills only and the effects of MDMA plus whatever is in the pill. Now everyone else, they want Molly all day.

I don't feel as comfortable with pills as I don't want someone to OD for a buck, safe drugs only.  If I didn't care there is all kinds of stuff coke, heroin etc that makes money. Surprised people are getting 120 a gram, guess my people have a good deal. I do believe in PLUR unlike allot of people in this game. I have considered making my own pills that are MDMA, pill binder, and caffeine to give that stimulant kick but it would be allot of cost to serve a few customers.

Best way to do this is to keep it on the DL.  Don't be the guy who slings at the event to anyone, yes the money is great if you want but the risk is insane. Just spend some time getting your name out and let people come to you.  Be the dealer and not the pusher.  The pusher is the guy who texts you every few days "yo dawg I got some fire shit" and kind of pressures you to buy.  But the dealer doesn't have to say shit, the clients come when they are ready. People like you allot more when you don't bother them, this applies in all retail let the customer breath.

As far as capping, I don't do it unless asked since so many people like to finger dab in my area.  Especially the jam band crowd which is allot of my client base.
=-pills-=
idk pills are fine imo if you know whats up either by test kit or by experience.  pills are harder to deal with because you might be able to tell whats in it, but unless you send it in to edata there is just a whole bunch of thizz heads trying to guesstimate the ratio's and percents.  those test kids are decent at best.  again, are you personally keeping notes of how the roll was in lieu of the reaction time and color?  unlike molly where the user can add caffeine, coke, deferral, speed ect pills come in a single set package.  i always sell clean, but if someone wants a kick in the ass ill tell them to get some caffeine or soda in them.  i personally do not have the brain capacity and or time to be messing around with 1 pill for ever 100.  I don't get more than 100 since people get tired of the same pill real quick (ie pot).   certain pills will fly off the shelf depending on what an individual gets down on.  people will tell you it was "good" or "bad" but use these words to their standards.  in short some people like speedy rolls vs getting floored and varying degrees in between.  the only person i trust is myself.  yes, i did get tricked a few times and got some speedy rolls, but you live and you learn and apologize if need be

-=da math=-
at this point i can get molly cheaper than pills so there is no real intensive.  i have a 330% mark up from molly (buy at 3 sell at 10) where as pills will get me 200% (by at 6 sell at 12 or 2 for 25).  furthermore, molly is easier and smaller to ship than pills (less risk ftw).  i would say fuck it with using a press/mold.  you can make your own, but you have to use the right binder/filler.  chemist friend says to use a filler with similar molecule size as mdma to get a 1:1 ratio when you mix it.  imo leave the presses to the mass market since people can fuck up and or your pills might break/fall apart (ruled this out and have done little to no research).  all the pills i have bought were a mo or 2 old from pill reports and from the general region.  if you are smart you will never end up with pipes.  test on the spot at your dealers spot.  no fucking returns son!

i have a few heads that say molly doesnt get them wild out.  i truly do not understand how they are not affected.  my best friend in irl has tried molly a few times and well he says he feels minimal affects at best and clearly doesn't "roll" so is uninterested.  anyways i have had great pills in past and some speedy.  only once did i get fucked my by dealer and got pipes.  i never understand why my dealer fucked me once and never picked up again.   

=-selling at events/clubs/undos/ect=-
i disagree with you on a few points.  i wouldn't just blanket my argument and say not to sell at events.  all my dealers knew local dj's and promoters and such so they could sell at these undos and smaller events if they wanted to.  the people putting on the show know people are going to be on drugs ect and they hire security.  they are not hiring police for these events.  you can sell, but you have to know if you have the "right/privilege" to sell or security will grab your shit and kick you out. 

i would say its more risky to sell large events ie edc and or your wed-sat club as they will fuck you in the ass/get you blacklisted/call the cops depending on the situation (friend is an emt and has worked private mansion parties and well know edm club events).  of course, your risk and reward is higher as you can easily sell for double and if your shit is good/solid you may get return custos if you go to those things often.

=-personal story time=-
i was one of those atypical people asking for rolls at an event and ran into an old high school buddy who was "out" possibly playing it smart, but gave me his info and he plugged me for a solid 4 years.  friends bro was at a famous edm club and met a guy and ran into him a few hours later.  his shit was good so they swapped numbers.  homie been getting 1/2 o fairly frequently.  i have swapped numbers with people who have asked (on a burner) and if they are local ill hit them back up to meet up and possibly hook them up.  i also got set up by a friends friend.  it was quite clear some bullshit was going on either that i was going to get jacked or fed to le.  if this doesnt sound right or too good stop put it behind you and move on. 

things can happen, but you have to weigh out the risk reward.  imo its easy to spot an undo, but it may be harder to spot an undo from afar if you are being watched.  i have in past sold a few at major events to take care of my ticket and then get fucked up afterwards.  its hard to concentrate (at least for me) to sell/have fun/and keep an eye out.  dealers old trick is to pop a pill in his mouth and pass it off as a kiss.  idk if this would work as i have never done this, but most times when i sell to people i look to see if their eyes are dilated and pissing with sweat/ got them wiggles and hot as fuck (yes i will touch you on your arm first).  i tell them to not look at the pill and give them the choice of either taking it now or slipping it into their cloths or w.e  too many times have i seen randoms selling to people and having the receiving party (and friends) examining the pill ect either by all huddling together and looking down or lifting it in the air and examining it.  after i sell i peace the fuck out of that area! 

=-pushing?=-
i greatly disagree with you on calling me and or my techniques one of a pusher even if i don't hit my people up every few days.  1-no one who is buying molly would need/want molly every few days.  2-sign of desperation.  if the client can not simply say no then well slaughter to the sheep.  are you calling advertising companies pushers?  does mcd push their product and cause you to eat their food?  if so that is just sad.  yes, i am advertising my product and will use my brain and simple skills to make sales.  i need to know this information if i am going to need to buy more product. 

Is it unjust for me to not have enough product when i have 10 people call for edc and i only have 10g and people want a total of 20?  someone is going to get fucked here.  people are IRRESPONSIBLE and don't give 2 SHITS about you or the hard work you put in constantly!  stoners of all people are the worse.  they don't care that they are ABOUT to run out.  they WILL call when they are OUT.  they can't do the responsible thing and hit you up a day or two in advance and ask if you got any and can hold some.  i run my business as a business.  its called RETENTION.  you need retention in this business as its inevitable that people drop out of the scene/stop doing drugs.  tahts fine; thats great, but please respectfully inform the dealer.  i had a guy literally ask me for an o yesterday.  no advanced warning at all.  just expects me to be holding for him!  i have made plenty of sales either in advanced or just because people loose their phone/ your number.  buying drugs is not as easy as it is for certain people.  consider this.  people get nervous and scared.  if i havnt seen someone in a while ima give them a call and see wahts up.  sometimes you have to update your customs on shit.  yes, i did provide some shady sales techniques like telling them you are out of town or will be low on supply, but i can't stress the importance of staying in somewhat of constant contact.  i have made mistakes and have bought too much gear or thought i could clear stuff by a certain time.  this was before i started keeping track of who was buying what and at what rate.  More importantly is to figure out if your custo is going to someone else or if they are tired of your product/ dont like it.  people don't like confrontation especially with you (the dealer) and only the most bold of people will say johnny down the street is selling me .1 for $7.   people will always play down the bads and over hype the good.  i can not help them if they don't tell me if it was bad or if they didn't like it.  again people have different tastes and their tastes should be met. 

-=final words=-
try to remember your entry lvl or early drug dealers.  remember how difficult it was to talk to them, to get product, to have them show up ect.  maybe you had a good guy- if so, to remember what this person did.  emulate the greats and note what the "bad" drug dealers did.  its a weird thing to say, but you arn't just helping out your friend you are dealing dr00gs.  class 1 drug might i add with some states that have minimum drug sentencing.  think of how you are getting these drugs too.  take a moment to let it all sink in.  shit can hit the fan.  we talk about being prepared, but truly are we?  selling is merely only one lvl of the game. 


=-some simple science- that 84% purity=-
so i had a chance to talk to my chemist friend.  in short u can have mdma with "abnormality" (my phrase not his) as i do not remember the correct scientific phrase (maybe someone who knows can tell us all), but you can have for example a 4 carbon chain  shaped differently.  scientifically it is the same 4 carbon chain, but in reality the location of the carbons will affect the high on the person.  i don't know if that really helped any of you, but if you pay attention different sellers have "different" mdma effects even though they are all relatively a high purity.  i trust my friend (chem degree) that the placements of the same molecules result in a different high.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wraithe on May 07, 2013, 11:37 pm
the calling them to see whats up is a good way to see if they have been pinched.  had I done that years ago I would of avoided an arrest.  he went quiet for a month.  if i called him i would of picked up something fishy and cut ties but i didnt
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: experimental333 on May 09, 2013, 08:33 am
Let me chime in on the topic of capping. It's been done for years with legal substances, on a much larger scale. People have come up with MUCH more efficient ways of capping than the funnel method.
Here's one: I haven't done this myself, do it's just theoretical advice, but you should be able to work out the details yourself :)

USE A CAPSULE FILLER DEVICE! It costs around 25$ Here's a google link: https://www.google.com/search?q=capsule+filler

1. Work out how much powder fits into your capsule. Let's say it's 500mg, I'll use this amount for the example.
1. Crush the 10grams of  MDMA into a fine powder. Add 40 grams of binder (glucose?). You can add caffeine at this stage, or whatever additives you wish. Just make sure it all adds up to 50grams, so the math is easier :)
2. Now you need 500 capsules. Put their halves in the capsule filling device. Pour the powder on it, use the spatula to fill  all the capsules.
3. Cover the caps with the other halves.
Now you have 500 caps with 100mg of MDMA each.

Always make sure you don't keep the equipment where you can get busted (your home).
Hope this helps!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Mcrad on May 09, 2013, 02:20 pm
Let me chime in on the topic of capping. It's been done for years with legal substances, on a much larger scale. People have come up with MUCH more efficient ways of capping than the funnel method.
Here's one: I haven't done this myself, do it's just theoretical advice, but you should be able to work out the details yourself :)

USE A CAPSULE FILLER DEVICE! It costs around 25$ Here's a google link: https://www.google.com/search?q=capsule+filler

1. Work out how much powder fits into your capsule. Let's say it's 500mg, I'll use this amount for the example.
1. Crush the 10grams of  MDMA into a fine powder. Add 40 grams of binder (glucose?). You can add caffeine at this stage, or whatever additives you wish. Just make sure it all adds up to 50grams, so the math is easier :)
2. Now you need 500 capsules. Put their halves in the capsule filling device. Pour the powder on it, use the spatula to fill  all the capsules.
3. Cover the caps with the other halves.
Now you have 500 caps with 100mg of MDMA each.

Always make sure you don't keep the equipment where you can get busted (your home).
Hope this helps!

now thats a thought!

Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Sero Tonin on May 09, 2013, 05:39 pm
Let me chime in on the topic of capping. It's been done for years with legal substances, on a much larger scale. People have come up with MUCH more efficient ways of capping than the funnel method.
Here's one: I haven't done this myself, do it's just theoretical advice, but you should be able to work out the details yourself :)

USE A CAPSULE FILLER DEVICE! It costs around 25$ Here's a google link: https://www.google.com/search?q=capsule+filler

1. Work out how much powder fits into your capsule. Let's say it's 500mg, I'll use this amount for the example.
1. Crush the 10grams of  MDMA into a fine powder. Add 40 grams of binder (glucose?). You can add caffeine at this stage, or whatever additives you wish. Just make sure it all adds up to 50grams, so the math is easier :)
2. Now you need 500 capsules. Put their halves in the capsule filling device. Pour the powder on it, use the spatula to fill  all the capsules.
3. Cover the caps with the other halves.
Now you have 500 caps with 100mg of MDMA each.

Always make sure you don't keep the equipment where you can get busted (your home).
Hope this helps!

thats a good idea. and ive definitely thought about doing it this way. but then there leaves no room for customization.
though i guess if you were just sticking to selling one type of capsule that would be great.
but i do 3 different types..
though they are all generally proportionate to eachother...they just have more or less in them.
10/15/20
point/point.5/2points each with slightly over just incase they wanna weigh shit out at their house so i know they cant bs me
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: zer0her034 on May 10, 2013, 11:29 pm
Let me chime in on the topic of capping. It's been done for years with legal substances, on a much larger scale. People have come up with MUCH more efficient ways of capping than the funnel method.
Here's one: I haven't done this myself, do it's just theoretical advice, but you should be able to work out the details yourself :)

USE A CAPSULE FILLER DEVICE! It costs around 25$ Here's a google link: https://www.google.com/search?q=capsule+filler

1. Work out how much powder fits into your capsule. Let's say it's 500mg, I'll use this amount for the example.
1. Crush the 10grams of  MDMA into a fine powder. Add 40 grams of binder (glucose?). You can add caffeine at this stage, or whatever additives you wish. Just make sure it all adds up to 50grams, so the math is easier :)
2. Now you need 500 capsules. Put their halves in the capsule filling device. Pour the powder on it, use the spatula to fill  all the capsules.
3. Cover the caps with the other halves.
Now you have 500 caps with 100mg of MDMA each.

Always make sure you don't keep the equipment where you can get busted (your home).
Hope this helps!

ehhhhh..... you can still only get (one hundred) 500mg caps that contain 100mg MDMA each, by using 10g of MDMA (or 10,000mg)..
You're math is a bit off, but nice to see someone being hopeful and optimistic! :)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Sero Tonin on May 10, 2013, 11:33 pm
and not to mention you would have to crush everything up to the same consistency.
to the size of...sugar if you were using that.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on May 11, 2013, 01:38 am
and not to mention you would have to crush everything up to the same consistency.
to the size of...sugar if you were using that.

Bingo.  Even when I crush it up pretty fine there size of the grains are not consistent.  Sometimes some caps look much more full than others but they've all been weighed out as the same.  Also those capsule fillers apparently have serious issues with water / humidity.

Nice idea though.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: eguy85 on July 11, 2013, 07:33 pm
I have also been eyeballing it out, and am looking for a easier method, I like the paying a friend .50 a pill idea. Gonna start doing that and then stashing it somewhere.

I haven't really been weighting them but I am going to start. I notice sometimes that people will vomit from the pill and my research has told me that it is because of too much serotonin released into the bloodstream causes vomiting. I have been filling up the size 3 caps almost all the way and now i'm going to start weighting each one out to 120 mg.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: hazed on July 11, 2013, 10:59 pm
I have also been eyeballing it out, and am looking for a easier method, I like the paying a friend .50 a pill idea. Gonna start doing that and then stashing it somewhere.

I haven't really been weighting them but I am going to start. I notice sometimes that people will vomit from the pill and my research has told me that it is because of too much serotonin released into the bloodstream causes vomiting. I have been filling up the size 3 caps almost all the way and now i'm going to start weighting each one out to 120 mg.


Man please get yourself some scales before you accidentally hurt someone!!  These are well known, good, cheap, scales that anyone dealing with powders should own:  http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Gemini-20-Portable-Milligram/dp/B0012TDNAM


As for dealing theirs alot of good info in this thread...Only thing i would like to add is, don't forget about the smaller festivals going on locally around you...I have recently started working/dealing at some smaller local festivals and  I must say the vibe is alot more family like...Everyone somewhat knows or has seen each other before so chances of undercovers going unnoticed is minimal compared to your Big festivals..Just a throught


Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on July 11, 2013, 11:13 pm
I haven't really been weighting them but I am going to start. I notice sometimes that people will vomit from the pill and my research has told me that it is because of too much serotonin released into the bloodstream causes vomiting. I have been filling up the size 3 caps almost all the way and now i'm going to start weighting each one out to 120 mg.

I used to cap 120-125mg or so when I first started because I "wanted to make sure my customers got their money's worth".  The truth is that our MDMA from SR is generally of much higher purity than the shit that's on the street.  I had more than one girl throw up and figured 100mg is fine enough.  If your customers vomit frequently enough then you will be putting yourself at risk.  100mg is more than enough to get a girl rolling, and 2 is more than enough for any guy.

Just remember that your purity, quality, and consistency is higher than other local sellers.  If a customer has an issue with your MDMA (ie dosage) they are welcome to buy from someone else.  I have told people this on more than one occasion and it shuts them up pretty quickly.  If you're doing things right then they are *guaranteed* to get good MDMA from you, and therefore guaranteed to roll.  That's more than customers can say about just about any other dealer in your area.

I've slowly built up my local selling during the last 12 months and have found it difficult to keep up with demand.  Our SR molly is in demand and you control the supply, you typically have the upper hand (but don't piss anyone off).

PS I was going to forward everyone in this thread to another thread we have about "brokering" vs. selling locally but I can't find the thread for some reason right now.  I hope it wasn't deleted...
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Quazee on July 12, 2013, 01:38 am
I have also been eyeballing it out, and am looking for a easier method, I like the paying a friend .50 a pill idea. Gonna start doing that and then stashing it somewhere.

I haven't really been weighting them but I am going to start. I notice sometimes that people will vomit from the pill and my research has told me that it is because of too much serotonin released into the bloodstream causes vomiting. I have been filling up the size 3 caps almost all the way and now i'm going to start weighting each one out to 120 mg.


Man please get yourself some scales before you accidentally hurt someone!!  These are well known, good, cheap, scales that anyone dealing with powders should own:  http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Gemini-20-Portable-Milligram/dp/B0012TDNAM


As for dealing theirs alot of good info in this thread...Only thing i would like to add is, don't forget about the smaller festivals going on locally around you...I have recently started working/dealing at some smaller local festivals and  I must say the vibe is alot more family like...Everyone somewhat knows or has seen each other before so chances of undercovers going unnoticed is minimal compared to your Big festivals..Just a throught

yah that dude should probably get a nice scale

I'm glad your spreading the love but you cleary don't know how undercovers work. They could have got busted smoking a j in their car between the last festival and become an imformant/undercover to escape charges. This happens a shitload. Just because someone knows them and they were cool the last event doesn't mean shit. Please be careful. Those bigger festivals are actually safer to not get caught. Need another woodstock

look up gnarnia festival last year. pretty much everyone that had drugs there was busted. It was a small festival and they rounded up nearly everyone! saw some people posting on it here and almost went. glad I didn't! :p
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: eguy85 on July 12, 2013, 06:23 pm
I have also been eyeballing it out, and am looking for a easier method, I like the paying a friend .50 a pill idea. Gonna start doing that and then stashing it somewhere.

I haven't really been weighting them but I am going to start. I notice sometimes that people will vomit from the pill and my research has told me that it is because of too much serotonin released into the bloodstream causes vomiting. I have been filling up the size 3 caps almost all the way and now i'm going to start weighting each one out to 120 mg.


Man please get yourself some scales before you accidentally hurt someone!!  These are well known, good, cheap, scales that anyone dealing with powders should own:  http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Gemini-20-Portable-Milligram/dp/B0012TDNAM


As for dealing theirs alot of good info in this thread...Only thing i would like to add is, don't forget about the smaller festivals going on locally around you...I have recently started working/dealing at some smaller local festivals and  I must say the vibe is alot more family like...Everyone somewhat knows or has seen each other before so chances of undercovers going unnoticed is minimal compared to your Big festivals..Just a throught



I do have a scale and my pills are size 3 so they hold 150-200 mg of most substances, I have weighed when I first got my package and meant that I eyeball it after roughly knowing how much is going in each pill. I started putting more in figuring I was hooking people up but after reading this thread I have decided to be more precise with each pill capped up.

Not interested in festivals or dealing with people I don't know in real life, that shit sketches me out, I sold like a hundred pressed pills like ten years ago to a friend before UMF and right at the beginning he was handing them out and undercovers ran up and tackled him out of nowhere. One of my chicks saw this and saw that he threw the pack and gave it back to me, we just handed it that shit out to our extended group of friends, didn't want the bad karma from selling it twice and it helped out my buddy because he got caught with only one pill on him.

After that I decided to stay away from festivals and the like. Plus I enjoy the scene and the music and I can never fully enjoy myself if I go there with an ulterior motive, my friends just know to come to me before hand. That way I only go in with personal amounts and can fully enjoy myself and the company of fly chicks rolling with me haha.

Just glad I found this site because everything around me, and I live in a major metropolitan area, is methylone in that scene now. Now that I have the pure shit from Europe, I tell people to bring me any pills they get and test those in front of them. The methylone turns bright yellow and my shit smokes straight to black. I'm almost out and have been telling people I'm retiring but I can help them out for larger amounts, this way I don't have to be the guy that peddles pill by pill and I don't have to have a huge stash hidden where I live. That way its in and out of my hands fast and I make a significant amount of change quickly.

Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wavelength on July 12, 2013, 09:36 pm
i can not stress enough how much more profitable M1 is than MDMA....You don't have to lie about what it is.....

yeah ive been there, methylone is just way more fiendy and way less magical. its quite comparable to cocaine honestly.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Sero Tonin on July 12, 2013, 10:59 pm
i can not stress enough how much more profitable M1 is than MDMA....You don't have to lie about what it is.....

yeah i suppose..its like 50% the cost of mdma...
you sell it for the same price and just put a little more in or what?
isnt it nearly as neurotoxic as mdma though?
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: southern m1 on July 13, 2013, 07:44 am
You just sell it at the same price since most of what people buy on the street as MDMA is actually M1. You can also throw in extra if you want since the cost is much less
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Mcrad on July 13, 2013, 07:47 am
You just sell it at the same price since most of what people buy on the street as MDMA is actually M1. You can also throw in extra if you want since the cost is much less

As long as your not trying to pass it off as MDMA i dont see a problem with it.

much love_mcrad!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: southern m1 on July 13, 2013, 08:11 am
There's no real need to lie about it since if you sell it pure then its stronger than the oppositions product, which is typically cut.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: zipstyle on July 13, 2013, 09:03 am
There's no real need to lie about it since if you sell it pure then its stronger than the oppositions product, which is typically cut.

Very true. I'd say sell M1 on the street and use the profit to get a nice MDMA headstash.
It's important to consider also that M1 and MDMA are different drugs when it comes down to it.
Just try this: Take a 120 mg dose of MDMA on a Saturday
           Then: Take a 250 mg dose of bk-MDMA (M1) the following Saturday
Compare the depth of the feelings from each roll.

In my opinion, M1 is more "surface-y" than MDMA, which is deeper emotionally and more of a "trip" like LSD, for example.
I also am more inclined for sex on M1 than on MDMA. I think about sex on both, but it's way easier to act out sexual fantasies on M1 than it is on MDMA (for me at least). I like to use MDMA sparingly, like maybe once or twice per year. It's a special thing. M1, however, I am more willing to take more often like mephedrone. Cathinones are definitely closer to cocaine than MDMA, but of course still have many of the same characteristics like empathy, music appreciation, tactile enhancement, euphoria, etc.

Great prices on your M1, by the way southern m1. Might be trying out your gear soon :)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: southern m1 on July 13, 2013, 09:18 pm
It's less potent at about 60% potency as mdma and also less toxic s an be dosed more frequently. Thanks for the comment about my prices I have them lower to generate sales and don't feel the need to gouge people.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: ChemCat on July 13, 2013, 09:25 pm
m1  :)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Quazee on July 14, 2013, 03:50 pm
orrrr we could sell nice mdma since we have acess to that. or hell fucking make it! not that nasty m1 shit
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: southern m1 on July 14, 2013, 11:15 pm
You could try to sell nice mdma to people however no one will pay those prices when they can get cheaper m1 and you will be out of business
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Mr. Fluffles Schrodinger on July 14, 2013, 11:25 pm
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Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Quazee on July 14, 2013, 11:32 pm
You could try to sell nice mdma to people however no one will pay those prices when they can get cheaper m1 and you will be out of business
Well, fuck maybe you should be thinking about something other than profit? gonna do what you r gonna do though
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: southern m1 on July 14, 2013, 11:55 pm
Not thinking about profit. You will be out of business because no one will pay your prices when they're used to paying the price for m1, I'm not insulting you so there's no need to get upset. I'm just stating that someone selling mdma cannot match the prices people selling m1 can hit and will go out of business since people on the street are used to m1 being "molly" anyways.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Quazee on July 15, 2013, 12:09 am
That is completly redic
Not thinking about profit. You will be out of business because no one will pay your prices when they're used to paying the price for m1, I'm not insulting you so there's no need to get upset. I'm just stating that someone selling mdma cannot match the prices people selling m1 can hit and will go out of business since people on the street are used to m1 being "molly" anyways.
A lot of people are used to being sold a lot of stuff as molly but pushing m1 isn't really that great and that doesn't make up for it. Essential oils can be bought for pennies on the gram and turned into mdma/mda. There is no reason other that profit and laziness to sell m1. We need some empathy!
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Mr. Fluffles Schrodinger on July 15, 2013, 01:23 am
might be slightly off topic but this is how i sell



=-pills-=

+1
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: wordpresshacker on July 15, 2013, 01:43 am
The MDMA vendors here are great but the problem is that i have no customer base for molly, it sucks... If i did would be making so much profit
Its not easy to find customers either... :/

I have a market for 1000 pills or caps a week in my area.  YES..

I have a strong profile on BMR and here "not this name" only because of the price, offense but same vendor on here 35% less.. My buyer name on SR is not this one.  I evade alot hide etc for stealth.  Ive learned to be diverse and evade but this post hits home...

I blew up South Florida and other venues from a CN vendor on here, Eastern Raves etc... But in a pinch bought domestic and got bunk ass Shit from HERE!!! BRIGHT ASS YELLOW...  I lost 5600 YES 5600... profit estimates 25,000.  Anyways I moved that shit took me two months.  I was so pissed and lost customers respect. 

I also have two websites that sell Molly on clearnet made from RS chems both down...Also Kratom sites.. Its legal so I dont buy ozs for 15 bucks when a kilo is 250.

People seem to import and tax the fuck out of really banging Molly or real for that matter. They dont post Marcus test pics of the nice purple color that we all love... But say its real.  To many fly by nights.

Sucks really..

If a really cost effective domestic supplier or CN  supplier partnering with a USA shipper where to come to light with a UK price that allows profit margins business would be good.

Example

Going rate in bulk

10-13 a pill or 200mg Capsule resell to JOE Raver

But the cost is 10-15 a pill?  NO profit?  NO market?

Think long term.

If I buy from out USA 5-7 depending on you know Quantity....

But risk for seize, control del is more risk and time..

Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: turdburglarSandwich on July 15, 2013, 03:11 pm
I live on the west coast of the US and for the past five months have been buying pressed pills from SR and selling them locally.  It's been real hit and miss.
I wish to God I could find someone local, someone in the Los Angeles area that I could do business with.  But as you've surmised... the local people want you to pay $12 to $15 for a pill... even when you're ordering bulk.  And there's simply no room for profit with that kind of arrangement.

Please edit your post and remove identifying information. For the safety of all of us.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Jack N Hoff on July 15, 2013, 05:28 pm
besides the identifying info, buddy, if your having a hard time finding people in LA....maybe you need a new hobby.

Truth! ;D  A hundred 70mg to 120mg rolls go for $500 easy in LA.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: mmmmonkey on July 23, 2013, 06:12 am
Yup I've been getting 100 white skull candy pills for $500 lately. People have been paying $20 a pop for them :)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: mofn on July 23, 2013, 09:15 am
if there is a best way to do this i would love to know too. thatd be nice
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: thebakertrio on July 23, 2013, 10:24 pm
Great thread keep it up!

To all those selling M1 on SR or IRL, I looked over the real wholesale prices and  8) "Get it how you live"
Just keep in mind if you where to sell me M1 as MDMA we'd have more then words  not to mention ive seen people get utterly stomped out for that kind of bullshit haha
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: streetelitist on July 23, 2013, 10:49 pm
Not thinking about profit. You will be out of business because no one will pay your prices when they're used to paying the price for m1, I'm not insulting you so there's no need to get upset. I'm just stating that someone selling mdma cannot match the prices people selling m1 can hit and will go out of business since people on the street are used to m1 being "molly" anyways.

I've actually put all the M1 dealers out of business in my area. When I first built my customer base, I simply told my future clients that I would test their current product in front of them. Every single capsule from several different dealers yielded a yellow result. As far as profit goes, I'm still making more than 10$ per 100 mg. Flip 50-100G's in a week, thats 5-10K. Minus the cost of some intercepted packages, I'm making a good amount :)

I've educated a few area codes on the difference between M1 & MDMA, and everybody is happy to pay the premium for actual, clean product. My community used to be completely oblivious to RC's but now it makes me happy to see that I've inspired 100's of people to buy test kits and know what they are putting into their bodies.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on July 23, 2013, 11:37 pm
I've actually put all the M1 dealers out of business in my area. When I first built my customer base, I simply told my future clients that I would test their current product in front of them. Every single capsule from several different dealers yielded a yellow result. As far as profit goes, I'm still making more than 10$ per 100 mg. Flip 50-100G's in a week, thats 5-10K. Minus the cost of some intercepted packages, I'm making a good amount :)

I've educated a few area codes on the difference between M1 & MDMA, and everybody is happy to pay the premium for actual, clean product. My community used to be completely oblivious to RC's but now it makes me happy to see that I've inspired 100's of people to buy test kits and know what they are putting into their bodies.

That's actually pretty funny, and clever.  I know, without a doubt, that most of my customers are getting unreliable MDMA: either its *not* MDMA or it's of questionable purity.  I believe a simple Marquis test will at least narrow down the chemical group and purity affects how quickly it (should) turn to black.  Seems like a simple way to earn trust, discredit the bad competitors, and gain market share (for lack of a better term).

I'm curious, does the fact that you test it ever get back to the other dealers?  MDMA dealers typically aren't known for aggression or violence, but if I were the one offering to test people's pills I would probably have them promise not to tell the other dealers who was conducting the test.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: streetelitist on July 24, 2013, 08:01 am
I've actually put all the M1 dealers out of business in my area. When I first built my customer base, I simply told my future clients that I would test their current product in front of them. Every single capsule from several different dealers yielded a yellow result. As far as profit goes, I'm still making more than 10$ per 100 mg. Flip 50-100G's in a week, thats 5-10K. Minus the cost of some intercepted packages, I'm making a good amount :)

I've educated a few area codes on the difference between M1 & MDMA, and everybody is happy to pay the premium for actual, clean product. My community used to be completely oblivious to RC's but now it makes me happy to see that I've inspired 100's of people to buy test kits and know what they are putting into their bodies.

That's actually pretty funny, and clever.  I know, without a doubt, that most of my customers are getting unreliable MDMA: either its *not* MDMA or it's of questionable purity.  I believe a simple Marquis test will at least narrow down the chemical group and purity affects how quickly it (should) turn to black.  Seems like a simple way to earn trust, discredit the bad competitors, and gain market share (for lack of a better term).

I'm curious, does the fact that you test it ever get back to the other dealers?  MDMA dealers typically aren't known for aggression or violence, but if I were the one offering to test people's pills I would probably have them promise not to tell the other dealers who was conducting the test.

I'm sure that word gets back one way or another, but it doesn't phase me. I have a very solid base & I only meet face to face with a handful of people who work for me.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: sl0wturtle on July 24, 2013, 12:53 pm
Many people around me have been getting the methylone shit, that tests yellow. the kids selling it aren't even testing it and selling it as mdma (apparently unknowingly), because every one of their customers says it's awesome and the best roll ever, etc. A lot of people I know as well have been getting cheap as fuck xtc pills. This one nigger kid i know got a 10 sack and 2 pills for 25 bucks. He told me he doesn't like mdma anymore because he ended up getting a meth bomb instead. Maybe he should get better hook ups and stop being a stupid nigger.

So I've been getting 50g molly from the road and selling grams for 60, effectively tripling my money at this price. At the same time PEOPLE LOVE IT! I could be an asshole and charge up to 100 bucks (others have done this when I stopped selling for a bit), but I'm not like that.

selling 100mg is too much of a pain in the ass to weigh out. I dont like to sell those amounts! let your foot soldiers do that work.


Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: thebakertrio on July 24, 2013, 01:41 pm
lol you guys with your testers and super duper quality MDMA. More power to ya guys.

and @ the guy who said he saw someone get "stomped" .... you have not got the faintest clue man. I'm sorry.

We are selling drugs. People want to feel good. That's it. M1 is just generic shit and GOD BLESS IT.

I don't lie to anyone. I call it BK if they ask etc I explain it to them. But really 99% are like yeah yeah great oh hey gotta go get high i'll ttyl.

M1 is good shit, and I consider it much safer and more responsible than MDMA, considering that not everyone takes drugs once a month and uses supplements.

MDMA to me is something for special occasional trips.

You took it the wrong way, So one more time:
If you sell M1 as MDMA you run a risk of getting your ass kicked
If you sell M1 as M1 then all is well, Im not against M1 and I did look at the real wholesale price (not SR price but direct from the source) so I can see the profit upside.

To me its just logical that a person will be upset when they where offered substance A, Paid for substance A but instead received substance B which is inferior. The only real way M1 is better then MDMA is price/profit, if MDMA was priced from source just like M1 is then I'd bet 90% of all M1 dealers would switch. If you went to mcdonalds, ordered a double cheeseburger but instead got a hamburger wouldnt you be a bit peeved?

The game is the game, I wont sit back and argue morality as that is a case of to each his own mixed with get it how you live but the risk of violence for ripping someone off is a factor. Im not saying someone will break your jaw for a $20 dollar deal but if your slinging Oz's...well different story.

I do not doubt that its beyond possible to sell M1 as M1, think on the whole Drone craze! People do want to get high so your correct on that aspect. My only issue in selling M1 as MDMA is your destroying the REP of real MDMA and robbing people from a real experience. If you get your head kicked in for it then I just hope I get to watch as im well known to sit back, light a cigg n let things unfold in front of my eyes. I live by the whole "don't get involved, live allot longer" philosophy.


Im going to end this with I used you, your..ect but Im not referring to you directly Aurelius Venport but to anyone who does what I was talking about in this post.
You said that you sell M1 as M1 so more power to you man! I did crunch some numbers an all I can say is  8)
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: sl0wturtle on July 24, 2013, 01:56 pm
^ Exactly! These kids that I associated with, were charging a premium because they thought they had actual MDMA.

they charged 60/half gram, 110/gram because they saw it as they were the only ones in town with it. Until one of my buddies came over, equipped with a marquis test. people were pissed once it tested yellow , cuz the sellers were ranting and raving about a product that wasn't what they said it was and people put out good money for it. but the sellers negotiated with many of my friends and gave some of them their money back, while there were others who didn't mind at all, as that they had an actual good time on the M1, despite it not being mdma.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: entreterra on July 24, 2013, 02:22 pm

So I've been getting 50g molly from the road and selling grams for 60, effectively tripling my money at this price. At the same time PEOPLE LOVE IT! I could be an asshole and charge up to 100 bucks (others have done this when I stopped selling for a bit), but I'm not like that.


Charging whatever you want to charge is not being an asshole. It's charging what you want to charge. Being an asshole is selling some other chemical as MDMA or cutting your MDMA. THAT's being an asshole. If you ask for 100/g, people don't have to pay that. If they can't afford what is charged, one could try to work something out, but again, putting a pricetag on something is your right as the seller. That's great if you sell it for a very low price, but selling it for a higher price does not make you an asshole.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Sero Tonin on July 24, 2013, 07:45 pm
i had a guy tell me he gets mdma for around 350...for an ounce.
yeah right. lol.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: danconia on July 24, 2013, 08:41 pm
i had a guy tell me he gets mdma for around 350...for an ounce.
yeah right. lol.

Yeah I've had a lot of people give me bulk numbers like that in an attempt to get me to sell to them for around that amount.  But hey, if they're getting good shit from that person *then why the fuck are they trying to buy from me*?  That's how I see it.

As for M1 vs MDMA: with MDMA I'm already making 300-500% profit margins so yes using M1 maybe I could make higher margins (is M1 even that easy to find on here?  I know MDA isn't that easy).  I suppose I'd have to try M1 several times before I'd be comfortable with giving it to other people.  Some of my customers want a more "speedy" roll so I'm kinda on a mission to find something that satisfies that: either as a standalone or a combination *with* MDMA.  And when I say "some of my customers" I also include myself in that group =D

I tried MDA twice and one time I felt nothing, the second time I barely felt it.  It may have been an impurity problem (ahem MarijuanaIsMyMuse was the vendor) or it might be that higher dosages are needed for MDA.

As I said earlier, just doing MDMA is working fine for me right now and the profit margins aren't something I can honestly complain about.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: thebakertrio on July 24, 2013, 11:33 pm
I would never use SR to get any RC, its utterly stupid when you think of it but thats just me.
If you want a speedy role then mix mdma and mda or mdma and meth but the meth utterly has to be crystal shards. 20mg meth and 100mg mdma is a good old time, you can up the meth to 50mg if you would like but lets not is what i will say.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: bbbaac on July 25, 2013, 03:24 am
thebaketrio where would you suggest getting RC then. because if you dont know anyone with connects SR is the safest way. half the people selling rcs on the clear net are scams and you would never see your money again. on the other hand with SR....
now for mdma vs mda i have only done mda 1 time and mdma about 1000. mda is pretty intense but ive grown out of the rolling faz now not sure why just dont like to b geekd up when i need to be clear headed.

mda was nice though and i could definatly tell the difference between the two when i was high on mda. i knew it was different. it was only a sample i got to test but it was nice. my friends loved it. mda gives you more of a euphoric feeling i think. a little more intense
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: thebakertrio on July 25, 2013, 02:49 pm
thebaketrio where would you suggest getting RC then. because if you dont know anyone with connects SR is the safest way. half the people selling rcs on the clear net are scams and you would never see your money again. on the other hand with SR....
now for mdma vs mda i have only done mda 1 time and mdma about 1000. mda is pretty intense but ive grown out of the rolling faz now not sure why just dont like to b geekd up when i need to be clear headed.

mda was nice though and i could definatly tell the difference between the two when i was high on mda. i knew it was different. it was only a sample i got to test but it was nice. my friends loved it. mda gives you more of a euphoric feeling i think. a little more intense


Just like SR clearnet vendors can be confirmed scam or trusted, they have their own system in place.
Im not going to name names or methods, if you found SR and figured out how to use it im 100% sure if someone wanted to find clearnet vendors for RC's they could pull it out flawlessly.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: Mr. Fluffles Schrodinger on July 26, 2013, 04:35 pm
selling 100mg is too much of a pain in the ass to weigh out. I dont like to sell those amounts! let your foot soldiers do that work.

Agreed, but sometimes the foot soldiers are fucking morons. 
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: ImTylerDurden on September 24, 2013, 12:41 pm
Bringing this thread back to life.

What kind of prices do you charge your foot soldiers?
Just getting started and I'm thinking 1400 for an oz, 850 for a half, 500 for 7g, and 290 for a ball. $100 - $120 for a G depending on quality.
As much as I want to be a jew and charge more, I feel like if I do charge more, there will be 0 incentive because profit margins would be shit for them.

I like capping em up at 160 for $25. Gives you 6 caps even with a little spillage accounted for. People around here are too fucking stupid to buy two 100mg caps @ $10-15 each, so I feel like its easier on retarded peoples brain to just offer the 150-180 mg caps for more $.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: GGGreenbud on September 24, 2013, 02:32 pm
thebaketrio where would you suggest getting RC then. because if you dont know anyone with connects SR is the safest way. half the people selling rcs on the clear net are scams and you would never see your money again. on the other hand with SR....
now for mdma vs mda i have only done mda 1 time and mdma about 1000. mda is pretty intense but ive grown out of the rolling faz now not sure why just dont like to b geekd up when i need to be clear headed.

mda was nice though and i could definatly tell the difference between the two when i was high on mda. i knew it was different. it was only a sample i got to test but it was nice. my friends loved it. mda gives you more of a euphoric feeling i think. a little more intense
Just like SR clearnet vendors can be confirmed scam or trusted, they have their own system in place.
Im not going to name names or methods, if you found SR and figured out how to use it im 100% sure if someone wanted to find clearnet vendors for RC's they could pull it out flawlessly.

   The problem with Clearnet RC vendors is that they can be audited, as semi-legit businesses, they keep records, pay taxes, etc.  If you use the same drop as with your SR purchases, you have no idea if they are working for The Man.  I've heard of mushroom spore companies giving out their customer lists in a heartbeat on the clearnet.   No thanks.   
   As for bulk MDMA, there are several EU vendors offering prices <$375/10g of washed.  Someone could cap up 83x120mg or even do doubles at 180mgx55, sell doubles at a venue for $20-25, and you've got $1100 from a $400 investment.  That blows everything else out of the water, even wholesale LSD barely doubles your money(if you're lucky) at the $630 per 100 they're charging now.  I guess at $15 you make about 2.5x, but people don't go nuts for LSD like molly, and people always come back for more molly later in the night.   As for MDA, 7g is going for $250, but you have a ceiling effect so people don't tend to redose, but it will satisfy the "I'm not feeling it" crowd, you just won't be able to sell them MDMA after that, because it isn't as intense, and some people will invariably take too much and throw up, complain you gave them bad stuff because they have a freakout.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: thecatinthehat101 on September 24, 2013, 03:25 pm
Silk road bro much safer and worth the commissions don't shit in your own back yard not smart.
Title: Re: best way to sell actual mdma in the united states.
Post by: kimlee on September 25, 2013, 02:53 am
it seems like all that ever goes around nowadays is methylone, or some other random cathinone capped up.
i want to supply my people with actual, legit mdma.
but i wish to sell it and make money off of it.
if i buy domestic, the profits will be minimal, so here's the question.
who in the united states buys mdma from out of the country?
who have you had success with? who has fair prices? who has legit mdma that i can pass around instead of this god damn methylone!
please help guise, i want to do this right.


If you're gonna do this as a money making adventure, put some time in and do lots of research.  Look for the best deals, then read read read reviews on their page and in the forums.  A few hours of research is worth finding a good vendor. I dont deal but I still read obsessively before a purchase cause I refuse to be scammed. If youre smart and diligent, you'll find some great stuff from great vendors at low prices.  If I were XX years younger, still connected to the scene and willing to deal, I could easily make a killing from the prices and quality from the Road.