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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Nemesis0914 on August 07, 2013, 12:32 pm

Title: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: Nemesis0914 on August 07, 2013, 12:32 pm
So i hear the freedom hosting author was arrested and is refused bail due to an extradition attempt by the u.s to try him for a whole number of pedo offenses. This is meant to be the same guy who created tor mail right? How ironic that such a liberating tool is used for the most grotesque, heinous and deceptive crimes. I hate fucking pedos , i wish them an eternity in hell for abusing the purest innocence known to man, the child.  But i hate LE too, and these pedos are giving us tor/SR uses a bad name. They create heat for us, like a kid robbing on your block and bringing fedz. thats what happens to us. Why dont we honest SR users do the polices job and team up to rid the world of these cunts. I got love for fellow dealers man, but fuck the pedos. we should go undecover and shit and fuck these cunts up cos they bring heat!! what u guys think.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: CannabisCrusader on August 07, 2013, 04:38 pm
Somehow I don't quite believe you would be any help to the cause.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: JohnTheBaptist on August 07, 2013, 04:58 pm
Somehow I don't quite believe you would be any help to the cause.
Touche.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: Nemesis0914 on August 07, 2013, 06:31 pm
what do mean?
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: Amadeus on August 07, 2013, 10:35 pm
Except that not every pedo is a CP dealer and a rapist. Perhaps you do not know the definition of pedophile.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: PowerToCharm on August 07, 2013, 11:12 pm
Sure, but somewhere at this very moment some other people are conspiring to gang up and rid the world of sick and evil drug dealers. Drug dealers! They prey upon children! They destroy families! They force young women to sell their bodies! They smell like patchouli! So you get the idea. Pretty much everyone is in the crosshairs of someone else's morality.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: Nemesis0914 on August 11, 2013, 11:55 am
Sure, but somewhere at this very moment some other people are conspiring to gang up and rid the world of sick and evil drug dealers. Drug dealers! They prey upon children! They destroy families! They force young women to sell their bodies! They smell like patchouli! So you get the idea. Pretty much everyone is in the crosshairs of someone else's morality.
How insightful. Real talk.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: bbbaac on August 11, 2013, 12:38 pm
dont even feed the bait men. they want to talk about here but if no one else did they wouldnt. so just look past what they say, it may sound bad but they have a different state of mind then other people who are normal if you understand which i hope you do. over the past week ive seen way to many posts about CP and its got out of hand. this isnt what it is about, im sure you could find 1000 other sites on onion about that shit without even having to search for 5 minutes, so why talk about it here when people are going to diss you. go to some actual pedo file where people will agree with you and get it the fuck out of here. straight up.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: hailsatan123123 on August 11, 2013, 02:27 pm
Your just tormented people that i think honestly didn't have a choice. I truly believe that if they had a choice they would choose different paths/ sexual orientation but obviously they just can't it's bound to them.
Instead of looking at them like devils consider them as people who actually need help and support and just have no where to go (Unlike homosexuals/Lesbians n others). I am 100% against child abuse or any abuse between people and nature , But there is gotta be another way to solve this endless conflict with rational thinking.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: thedopestjunkie on August 11, 2013, 07:04 pm
Your just tormented people that i think honestly didn't have a choice. I truly believe that if they had a choice they would choose different paths/ sexual orientation but obviously they just can't it's bound to them.
Instead of looking at them like devils consider them as people who actually need help and support and just have no where to go (Unlike homosexuals/Lesbians n others). I am 100% against child abuse or any abuse between people and nature , But there is gotta be another way to solve this endless conflict with rational thinking.
Well Said. A little understanding goes a long way. I must say I am uncomfortable with and tired of the posts that pedos create it is attracting heat and who wants to be grouped with them? No one. So I understand where youre coming from but hailsatan is right.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 11, 2013, 07:43 pm
dont even feed the bait men. they want to talk about here but if no one else did they wouldnt. so just look past what they say, it may sound bad but they have a different state of mind then other people who are normal if you understand which i hope you do. over the past week ive seen way to many posts about CP and its got out of hand. this isnt what it is about, im sure you could find 1000 other sites on onion about that shit without even having to search for 5 minutes, so why talk about it here when people are going to diss you. go to some actual pedo file where people will agree with you and get it the fuck out of here. straight up.

Over the past week there have been debates about CP surfacing all over the darknets and related places. Not just here, in several security oriented IRC channels I am in as well. The FH bust has been a really big trigger for this obviously. I am sorry to say that SR has been the only place I have seen people advocating for castration and murder, it really is the least rational place I have seen discussions of this spring up so far.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 11, 2013, 07:47 pm
Your just tormented people that i think honestly didn't have a choice. I truly believe that if they had a choice they would choose different paths/ sexual orientation but obviously they just can't it's bound to them.
Instead of looking at them like devils consider them as people who actually need help and support and just have no where to go (Unlike homosexuals/Lesbians n others). I am 100% against child abuse or any abuse between people and nature , But there is gotta be another way to solve this endless conflict with rational thinking.
Well Said. A little understanding goes a long way. I must say I am uncomfortable with and tired of the posts that pedos create it is attracting heat and who wants to be grouped with them? No one. So I understand where youre coming from but hailsatan is right.

Why do you say pedos keep creating posts? All of the posts I see starting these debates are always people saying death to the pedophiles death to the child porn viewers blah blah blah and generally foaming at the mouth like rabid dogs. The only recent exception to this is the thread I made in this sub forum, which was made because people were having their hysteria manifest itself inappropriately in the security and silk road discussion subforum, and I wanted to attempt to keep those threads clean.

Seriously

People foaming at mouth - DEATH TO THE PEDOPHILES CASTRATION AND DEATH AND MURDER AND CP VIEWING IS THE EVIL VILE SCUM OF THE DEVIL BLAHADJHIDFHSIFFS

rational people - Well, not exactly

Everybody else - I WISH YOU GOD DAMN PEDOPHILES WOULD STOP POSTING YOUR TRASH HERE
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: boneeater on August 11, 2013, 08:33 pm
I may be off key here, but someone really needs to create a hosted email in a extradition free country, and make sure that none of the shit hosted on there is kiddy porn, problem solved as long as they know what they are doing. Shit even take btc donations to host it im sure you could make some money. I may just be talking out of my ass but hell it would be nice to have a solid place to use email without worry of being busted cause some idiot decided to host child porn.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: Nemesis0914 on August 11, 2013, 09:56 pm
The majority of you sound like pedophile sympathizers and you try to sound so intellectual with your fantasized, deep understandings of human nature and morality. So ill dumb this down for you. If you sympathize with pedos FUCK YOU. If you dont like talking about reality because it scares you on silk road, FUCK OFF . And if you dont agree with me on the topic of pedos, SHUT THE FUCK UP! real talk.  Cos i promise all of you if any human being MIKE TYSON for example tried to justify pedophilia to me, i would do everything in my power to hurt that person.  Drug dealing is in no way shape or form in the same league as pedos.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: jlranier on August 11, 2013, 11:56 pm
With all this renewed attention to CP and pedos I wonder if/hope that pedobaiting will become a viable moneymaking option again.

Normally scamming should earn you a IRL beating in my opinion but when it comes to pedos I say all is fair game, take their goddamn life savings if you can get by with it. Most are wise enough to know that past a certain point isn't worth it but every once in a while you get some sick middle aged professor who's married and a deacon in the community and they'll gladly fork over $250 in the hopes that you're not willing to risk anything taking their info to the cops or spreading it all over Facebook.

Really other than lotteries I can't think of a better way to pay for trips on the Road than with the hardearned money of sick fucks. A few hours of work and the small amount of dignity associated with playing the pretend game for however long it takes can be a nice startup.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: jlranier on August 12, 2013, 01:45 am
With all this renewed attention to CP and pedos I wonder if/hope that pedobaiting will become a viable moneymaking option again.

Normally scamming should earn you a IRL beating in my opinion but when it comes to pedos I say all is fair game, take their goddamn life savings if you can get by with it. Most are wise enough to know that past a certain point isn't worth it but every once in a while you get some sick middle aged professor who's married and a deacon in the community and they'll gladly fork over $250 in the hopes that you're not willing to risk anything taking their info to the cops or spreading it all over Facebook.

Really other than lotteries I can't think of a better way to pay for trips on the Road than with the hardearned money of sick fucks. A few hours of work and the small amount of dignity associated with playing the pretend game for however long it takes can be a nice startup.

I know a guy who used to post Craigslist ads posing as a 15-16 year old and he'd get sexual replies, bait them into incriminating themselves and instead of a underage girl answering the phone her "Dad" or "brother" in the military would answer and threaten to call the cops or brutally murder them. Usually they send their address so it makes it easier. $250 is actually what he used to charge too. Hahaha. I wonder if he still does it because that was pure awesome. I'm pretty sure 16 is legal in most states too. But I think it's a crime to solicit sex with anyone under 18 online federally.

That is pretty epic haha, I remember back in 06-08 there were entire sites devoted to it where people could swap tactics and a few people even set up IRL stings. The pedos that go for 16 year olds though are usually wise enough to the loopholes and technicalities, I prefer the takedowns of the really sick fucks that prey on 11-13 year olds and the younger age tends to add more leverage.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: thedopestjunkie on August 12, 2013, 02:30 am
The majority of you sound like pedophile sympathizers and you try to sound so intellectual with your fantasized, deep understandings of human nature and morality. So ill dumb this down for you. If you sympathize with pedos FUCK YOU. If you dont like talking about reality because it scares you on silk road, FUCK OFF . And if you dont agree with me on the topic of pedos, SHUT THE FUCK UP! real talk.  Cos i promise all of you if any human being MIKE TYSON for example tried to justify pedophilia to me, i would do everything in my power to hurt that person.  Drug dealing is in no way shape or form in the same league as pedos.
just to be clear, I in no way sympathize with pedos. I agree drug dealing is in no way in the same league as pedos.
As far as what KMF said, ok maybe there have not been a lot of posts created by pedos my mistake but in my opinion one post justifying it is too much... and in the past I have seen people here boasting about it and justifying it. Why they come to SR?? beyond me...this place is for drugs not that shit. Furthermore I think its really important people understand that this is mostly a community of Addicts, and addicts IMO need to be this organized and anonymous because of the dangers we face but blah blah if i continue Id probably be preaching to the choir. While Im not calling for the death of pedos like some others and, i guess that pisses some off, I am deeply concerned that we will be grouped together with them in the end by LE in their efforts to take down the site. And thats not right. Like someone said in a different thread awhile back, most of us in this community are drug users, not to be confused with criminals, and dont commit any other crimes really than occasional or frequent drug use. This is of course up for debate, Im aware of that, but lets at least have the talk without threatening one another, its childish and solves nothing.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 04:36 am
With all this renewed attention to CP and pedos I wonder if/hope that pedobaiting will become a viable moneymaking option again.

Normally scamming should earn you a IRL beating in my opinion but when it comes to pedos I say all is fair game, take their goddamn life savings if you can get by with it. Most are wise enough to know that past a certain point isn't worth it but every once in a while you get some sick middle aged professor who's married and a deacon in the community and they'll gladly fork over $250 in the hopes that you're not willing to risk anything taking their info to the cops or spreading it all over Facebook.

Really other than lotteries I can't think of a better way to pay for trips on the Road than with the hardearned money of sick fucks. A few hours of work and the small amount of dignity associated with playing the pretend game for however long it takes can be a nice startup.

I know a guy who used to post Craigslist ads posing as a 15-16 year old and he'd get sexual replies, bait them into incriminating themselves and instead of a underage girl answering the phone her "Dad" or "brother" in the military would answer and threaten to call the cops or brutally murder them. Usually they send their address so it makes it easier. $250 is actually what he used to charge too. Hahaha. I wonder if he still does it because that was pure awesome. I'm pretty sure 16 is legal in most states too. But I think it's a crime to solicit sex with anyone under 18 online federally.

That is pretty epic haha, I remember back in 06-08 there were entire sites devoted to it where people could swap tactics and a few people even set up IRL stings. The pedos that go for 16 year olds though are usually wise enough to the loopholes and technicalities, I prefer the takedowns of the really sick fucks that prey on 11-13 year olds and the younger age tends to add more leverage.

Nobody thinks that people who have sex with 16 year olds are pedophiles you ignorant bigoted dumb fuck.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: jlranier on August 12, 2013, 04:49 am
With all this renewed attention to CP and pedos I wonder if/hope that pedobaiting will become a viable moneymaking option again.

Normally scamming should earn you a IRL beating in my opinion but when it comes to pedos I say all is fair game, take their goddamn life savings if you can get by with it. Most are wise enough to know that past a certain point isn't worth it but every once in a while you get some sick middle aged professor who's married and a deacon in the community and they'll gladly fork over $250 in the hopes that you're not willing to risk anything taking their info to the cops or spreading it all over Facebook.

Really other than lotteries I can't think of a better way to pay for trips on the Road than with the hardearned money of sick fucks. A few hours of work and the small amount of dignity associated with playing the pretend game for however long it takes can be a nice startup.

I know a guy who used to post Craigslist ads posing as a 15-16 year old and he'd get sexual replies, bait them into incriminating themselves and instead of a underage girl answering the phone her "Dad" or "brother" in the military would answer and threaten to call the cops or brutally murder them. Usually they send their address so it makes it easier. $250 is actually what he used to charge too. Hahaha. I wonder if he still does it because that was pure awesome. I'm pretty sure 16 is legal in most states too. But I think it's a crime to solicit sex with anyone under 18 online federally.

That is pretty epic haha, I remember back in 06-08 there were entire sites devoted to it where people could swap tactics and a few people even set up IRL stings. The pedos that go for 16 year olds though are usually wise enough to the loopholes and technicalities, I prefer the takedowns of the really sick fucks that prey on 11-13 year olds and the younger age tends to add more leverage.

Nobody thinks that people who have sex with 16 year olds are pedophiles you ignorant bigoted dumb fuck.

Looks like someone's fucking a 16 year old.

Mind yer shit though before you try to ride the high horse, IDGAF about people going after 16 year olds as I said the ones going after 11-13 year olds are where the gold's at.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: james frazer on August 12, 2013, 04:52 am
Surely no one here thinks that taking down Freedom Hosting was primarily about preventing the circulation of CP? The deep web is not answerable to any authority; it is outside the US Government's control. Therefore it is the deep web itself that is the enemy, not the people who are using it.

As for all the self-righteous indignation, presuming it's not trolling, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks".
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: spanky loc on August 12, 2013, 05:48 am
HUGE difference between being attracted to 16 year olds and being attracted to children. For all of recorded history, until maybe the last 50 years, a 16 year old woman was suitable for marriage and starting a family. It's only in our overly prudish culture that someone attracted to a young woman would get smeared as a pedo. FWIW I prefer 21-25 year olds, but I'm not criticizing anyone else's choices.

I'm stunned by the anger and rage from some here lately. Take a deep breath and relax. There are literally thousands of things that are far worse than looking at pictures. Any pictures!
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 06:20 am
HUGE difference between being attracted to 16 year olds and being attracted to children. For all of recorded history, until maybe the last 50 years, a 16 year old woman was suitable for marriage and starting a family. It's only in our overly prudish culture that someone attracted to a young woman would get smeared as a pedo. FWIW I prefer 21-25 year olds, but I'm not criticizing anyone else's choices.

I'm stunned by the anger and rage from some here lately. Take a deep breath and relax. There are literally thousands of things that are far worse than looking at pictures. Any pictures!

Ah I remember back in the day when I was stunned. I mean, I always knew there were laws against people looking at CP, and that the age of consent was 16-18, but I never realized how dead serious people took this matter until a few years ago when I started reasearching CP groups to see how they managed their security. I was really pretty shocked to see that people actually go to prison for decades for looking at pictures, and to realize that people actually claim to want to castrate everybody who thinks teenagers are sexually attractive. I must have been kind of young and naive myself, but I just had no clue people are so rabid and illogical about this. Prior to this I kind of assumed only the producers got in much trouble, kind of like how people don't usually get big charges for personal use possession of drugs but do for drug production and dealing. But these days it doesn't stun me anymore, I just feel kind of sad to live in a world dominated by emotional bigoted brainwashed dumb fucks, and wish that I could have been born just a few hundred years in the future.


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It must be weird dropping your girlfriend off at highschool though. Hopefully she put out enough for extra lunch money. Bitches love lunch money.

Oh yeah like you wouldn't fuck a hot 16 year old who wanted to fuck you if it was legal for you to do it and nobody would find out to critisize you for it. I call total bullshit on that, it is an open secret that men are attracted to underage teenagers who are you trying to convince me or yourself. People only started pretending to not be attracted to teenagers in this fucking last 100 years in a couple of countries in the world, what makes you think that you are so special in all of human history in all of the world that your tiny ass little culture and era is morally right and everybody else is wrong and sick? Or even what makes you so different from the rest of humanity through out history and the world that they were open about their sexual attraction to teenagers but you deny it?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_secret

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An open secret is a concept or idea that is "officially" secret or restricted in knowledge, but is actually widely known; or refers to something which is widely known to be true, but which none of the people most intimately concerned are willing to categorically acknowledge in public.

Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: DigitalSS on August 12, 2013, 06:28 am
HUGE difference between being attracted to 16 year olds and being attracted to children. For all of recorded history, until maybe the last 50 years, a 16 year old woman was suitable for marriage and starting a family. It's only in our overly prudish culture that someone attracted to a young woman would get smeared as a pedo. FWIW I prefer 21-25 year olds, but I'm not criticizing anyone else's choices.

I'm stunned by the anger and rage from some here lately. Take a deep breath and relax. There are literally thousands of things that are far worse than looking at pictures. Any pictures!

It must be weird dropping your girlfriend off at highschool though. Hopefully she put out enough for extra lunch money. Bitches love lunch money.

"Hopefully she'll put out enough for extra lunch money. Bitches love lunch money". HAHAHA

I agree with the extortion idea. I also agree with Nemesis; seems like theirs a couple of sympathizers here. Fuck that. I'm sorry, but I don't buy that " they had a hard life" or "walk through their shoes" bs. So what, people have problems. I have problems, we all have problems, but yet we all don't go around getting off to kids. That is just so fucking sickening. It makes me get pissed just thinking about it - it's a defenseless child! To me, pedos are lower than snitches and all deserve to get it. I know people will say the same about drug dealers and users, but I'd rather be involved with drugs ;)
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: DigitalSS on August 12, 2013, 07:52 am
Beautiful milfs 35 years to 55 (depending)
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 08:36 am
Too bad your ancestors didn't prefer females 35-55 years old, then you wouldn't likely even be here.

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You're making an assumption on my personal preferences and morality, and considering you're scolding members for the same reason, I find your argument hypocritical. As a matter of fact sir, I prefer older women who aren't timid and who lack a  malleable psyche and know their way around a cock.

Okay I guess you are exceptional

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness

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Attractiveness research indicates that heterosexual men tend to be attracted to young[84] and beautiful women[85] with bodily symmetry.[86] Rather than decreasing it, modernity has only increased the emphasis men place on women's looks.[87] Evolutionary psychologists attribute such attraction to an evaluation of the fertility potential in a prospective mate.[84]

Well fertility starts to drop at age 24.

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The common explanation for this preference is that men have evolved to be attracted to women with high child-bearing potential and therefore prefer young women. A stronger preference of youthfulness (detected by female hormone markers) reflects female fertility and the reproductive value mean.[110] As females age, the estrogen-to-androgen production ratio changes and results in female faces to appear more and more masculine (thus appearing less "attractive").[110] In a small (n=148) study performed in the United States using male college students at one university, the mean age expressed as ideal for a wife was found to be 16.87 years old, while 17.76 was the mean ideal age for a brief sexual encounter; however, the study sets up a framework where "taboos against sex with young girls" are purposely diminished, and biased their sample by removing any participant over the age of 30, with a mean participant age of 19.83.[111] In a study of penile tumescence, men were found most aroused by pictures of young adult females.[112]

http://opd.state.wi.us/htm/ATPracGuides/Training/ProgMaterials/Ch980/Heb.pdf

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   These findings, released to widespread media attention in a 923-page tome, Sex
Offenders: An Analysis of Types, were hardly a surprise to the general public. After all,
sexual attraction to adolescents is widespread and, indeed, evolutionarily adaptive
(Kenrick & Keefe, 1992); scholars across a range of disciplines have established that
both heterosexual and homosexual men across cultures and time periods tend to prefer
youthful partners who are at the peak of both beauty and reproductive fertility (Bailey,
Gaulin, & Agyei, 1994). Consequently, legal proscriptions against adult–adolescent
sexual behavior vary widely from nation to nation and even within nations such as the
United States.

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   In a subsequent study, Freund confirmed the normalcy of sexual arousal to
adolescents. His subjects were 48 young Czech soldiers, all presumed to be ‘‘normal’’
and heterosexual in orientation. He showed the men pictures of children (ages 4–10
years old), adolescents (ages 12–16), and adults (ages 17–36). As expected, most of the
heterosexual men were sexually aroused by photos of both adult and adolescent
females. They were not aroused by pictures of males of any age, and were aroused at an
intermediate level by pictures of children (Freund & Costell, 1970).

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   This unsurprising tendency of normal heterosexual men to be sexually aroused by
adolescents was confirmed by other researchers. Like Freund, a group of researchers in
Canada was attempting to perfect physiological tools for measuring sexual arousal.
These researchers found that their instruments could distinguish between the arousal
patterns of child molesters and a control group exposed to slides of female children
(ages 5–11), but both groups showed similar arousal patterns to slides of pubescent girls
(ages 12–15) (Quinsey, Steinman, Bergerson, & Holmes, 1975).

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           sexual attraction to adolescents is not rare, as are all of the listed examples of
paraphilia NOS. Indeed, it is significantly more common than pedophilia. Due to the
commonplace nature of attraction to postpubescent children, it seems logical that the
DSM authors would have specifically listed this condition if they had intended to
pathologize it as a mental disorder.

hey what do you know I finally found a reference that adolescent teenage girls are at peak fertility

http://forensicpsychologist.blogspot.de/2007/10/invasion-of-hebephile-hunters.html

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The absurdity of describing erotic attraction to adolescents as a mental abnormality is that most normal heterosexual men are sexually attracted to teenage girls (who happen to be at the peak of their reproductive fertility). This fact is well established by multiple research studies over the past several decades. Such findings are certainly no surprise to the moguls of popular culture or to the advertising industry, which uses provocative images of teen girls and boys to sell everything from clothes to cars.

Given the scientifically unsupported nature of this emerging diagnosis, I suspect that clinicians will apply it arbitrarily, and especially to men who are sexually involved with male teenagers. I am already seeing this trend informally, in my reviews of forensic reports on sex offenders. Ironically, any such biased application will further turn the tables on Magnus Hirschfeld and the ancient Greeks' aesthetic appreciation for the adolescent male body.
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Post by: DigitalSS on August 12, 2013, 08:43 am
Too bad your ancestors didn't prefer females 35-55 years old, then you wouldn't likely even be here.

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You're making an assumption on my personal preferences and morality, and considering you're scolding members for the same reason, I find your argument hypocritical. As a matter of fact sir, I prefer older women who aren't timid and who lack a  malleable psyche and know their way around a cock.

Okay I guess you are exceptional

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness

My ancestors? Wtf are you talking about. Chill, I wasn't even talking about you. You've got the wrong person. But now I've got to say; you went pretty damn far to defend yourself lol - Now I'm beginning to wonder...

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Attractiveness research indicates that heterosexual men tend to be attracted to young[84] and beautiful women[85] with bodily symmetry.[86] Rather than decreasing it, modernity has only increased the emphasis men place on women's looks.[87] Evolutionary psychologists attribute such attraction to an evaluation of the fertility potential in a prospective mate.[84]

Well fertility starts to drop at age 24.

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The common explanation for this preference is that men have evolved to be attracted to women with high child-bearing potential and therefore prefer young women. A stronger preference of youthfulness (detected by female hormone markers) reflects female fertility and the reproductive value mean.[110] As females age, the estrogen-to-androgen production ratio changes and results in female faces to appear more and more masculine (thus appearing less "attractive").[110] In a small (n=148) study performed in the United States using male college students at one university, the mean age expressed as ideal for a wife was found to be 16.87 years old, while 17.76 was the mean ideal age for a brief sexual encounter; however, the study sets up a framework where "taboos against sex with young girls" are purposely diminished, and biased their sample by removing any participant over the age of 30, with a mean participant age of 19.83.[111] In a study of penile tumescence, men were found most aroused by pictures of young adult females.[112]

http://opd.state.wi.us/htm/ATPracGuides/Training/ProgMaterials/Ch980/Heb.pdf

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   These findings, released to widespread media attention in a 923-page tome, Sex
Offenders: An Analysis of Types, were hardly a surprise to the general public. After all,
sexual attraction to adolescents is widespread and, indeed, evolutionarily adaptive
(Kenrick & Keefe, 1992); scholars across a range of disciplines have established that
both heterosexual and homosexual men across cultures and time periods tend to prefer
youthful partners who are at the peak of both beauty and reproductive fertility (Bailey,
Gaulin, & Agyei, 1994). Consequently, legal proscriptions against adult–adolescent
sexual behavior vary widely from nation to nation and even within nations such as the
United States.

Quote
   In a subsequent study, Freund confirmed the normalcy of sexual arousal to
adolescents. His subjects were 48 young Czech soldiers, all presumed to be ‘‘normal’’
and heterosexual in orientation. He showed the men pictures of children (ages 4–10
years old), adolescents (ages 12–16), and adults (ages 17–36). As expected, most of the
heterosexual men were sexually aroused by photos of both adult and adolescent
females. They were not aroused by pictures of males of any age, and were aroused at an
intermediate level by pictures of children (Freund & Costell, 1970).

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   This unsurprising tendency of normal heterosexual men to be sexually aroused by
adolescents was confirmed by other researchers. Like Freund, a group of researchers in
Canada was attempting to perfect physiological tools for measuring sexual arousal.
These researchers found that their instruments could distinguish between the arousal
patterns of child molesters and a control group exposed to slides of female children
(ages 5–11), but both groups showed similar arousal patterns to slides of pubescent girls
(ages 12–15) (Quinsey, Steinman, Bergerson, & Holmes, 1975).

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           sexual attraction to adolescents is not rare, as are all of the listed examples of
paraphilia NOS. Indeed, it is significantly more common than pedophilia. Due to the
commonplace nature of attraction to postpubescent children, it seems logical that the
DSM authors would have specifically listed this condition if they had intended to
pathologize it as a mental disorder.

hey what do you know I finally found a reference that adolescent teenage girls are at peak fertility

http://forensicpsychologist.blogspot.de/2007/10/invasion-of-hebephile-hunters.html

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The absurdity of describing erotic attraction to adolescents as a mental abnormality is that most normal heterosexual men are sexually attracted to teenage girls (who happen to be at the peak of their reproductive fertility). This fact is well established by multiple research studies over the past several decades. Such findings are certainly no surprise to the moguls of popular culture or to the advertising industry, which uses provocative images of teen girls and boys to sell everything from clothes to cars.

Given the scientifically unsupported nature of this emerging diagnosis, I suspect that clinicians will apply it arbitrarily, and especially to men who are sexually involved with male teenagers. I am already seeing this trend informally, in my reviews of forensic reports on sex offenders. Ironically, any such biased application will further turn the tables on Magnus Hirschfeld and the ancient Greeks' aesthetic appreciation for the adolescent male body.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 08:51 am
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My ancestors? Wtf are you talking about. Chill, I wasn't even talking about you. You've got the wrong person. But now I've got to say; you went pretty damn far to defend yourself lol - Now I'm beginning to wonder...

What I mean is that primary sexual attraction to those ages 35+ is evolutionarily maladaptive, and if it was common in your ancestors you would likely not be here. If there is any genetic basis for attraction to partners of a certain age, it will be a miricle if anybody is actually more attracted to those who are 35+ than those who are 14-23 , because 35+ year olds have much lower fertility, and 14-23 year olds are at the peak of their fertility, which means that over the ages those who were attracted to 14-23 year olds the most would have passed their genes on, and people attracted to older people the most would have died out from their evolutionarily maladaptive behavior. From an evolutionary perspective it makes no sense that the average male would prefer 35 year olds to teenagers (and all the research shows that they don't).
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: DigitalSS on August 12, 2013, 09:01 am
Well first I still don't know why you're telling me this. Secondly, I never said I wouldn't fuck a young woman. I'm just a young man with raging hormones! I'd fuck just about any fully mature woman! I just simply said I would prefer an older woman; idk maybe it's a fetish or something, more experience maybe.
& yeah, dude, I'm going to lie about what type of woman I like to fuck! That makes perfect since
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 09:03 am
Well first I still don't know why you're telling me this. Secondly, I never said I wouldn't fuck a young woman. I'm just a young man with raging hormones! I'd fuck just about any fully mature woman! I just simply said I would prefer an older woman; idk maybe it's a fetish or something, more experience maybe.
& yeah, dude, I'm going to lie about what type of woman I like to fuck! That makes perfect since

My mistake, I confused you with jrailer.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 10:31 am
Why do you think I give a shit about when a woman is "fertile"? You sound like a creepy fucking doctor or something bro.

Maybe on a concious level you do not but subconciously you are biologically programmed to and that will influence your concious perception of attractiveness even though the cause is subconcious to you.

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I don't go around having sex with women to procreate.

No but you try to have sex with the most attractive females correct? Most men are biologically programmed to find the females with the most signs of fertility as the most attractive, which makes sense from an evolutionary point of view. So it is highly likely you find the most fertile females the most attractive, and therefor it is highly likely that you find adolescents to early twenty year olds to be the most attractive.

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honestly I creep a lot of dating sites and my cutoff point is well over 18. Why the fuck would I want to date or fuck some teenage girl who wants to sit around and watch fucking cartoons or something all day? Ugh.

14-16 year old want to sit around watching cartoons all day? Wow you must be from a sheltered life.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: xX-NEW-ORDER-Xx on August 12, 2013, 10:39 am
Its giong to be a little creepy, it's the second thread about CP...

But finally i'm happy to find a place where everyone can talk so freely about his opinions...

kmfkewm : Even if i cant agree with his opinions, i'm proud of this guy cause he's bringing a real problem of society wich is taboo in most of country.

but in my opinion, this guy is bringing to much "references" trying to justify his purpose, too much articles, ect..

In most of country, at differents periods, in most of communities, there's some rules that are unbreakable (exceptions confirm theses rules..)

-DO NOT KILL, IT'S WRONG
-DO NOT FUCK WITH FAMILY MEMBERS IT'S WRONG
-DO NOT FUCK CHILDREN, IT'S WRONG

BUT, i cannot disagree these facts : are men's attracted by younger ladies: yes
                                                         do "men's hormones" tell to the men "fuck that tiny little hole" YES

Whatever, sometimes, your hormones says to you "kill this guy, kill him kill him ! "

--- BUT ITS WRONG, YOU DONT NEED OTHER PEOPLE ADVICES TO KNOW IT, you just feel it in your deepest soul...








Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 11:01 am
Its giong to be a little creepy, it's the second thread about CP...

But finally i'm happy to find a place where everyone can talk so freely about his opinions...

kmfkewm : Even if i cant agree with his opinions, i'm proud of this guy cause he's bringing a real problem of society wich is taboo in most of country.

but in my opinion, this guy is bringing to much "references" trying to justify his purpose, too much articles, ect..

In most of country, at differents periods, in most of communities, there's some rules that are unbreakable (exceptions confirm theses rules..)

-DO NOT KILL, IT'S WRONG
-DO NOT FUCK WITH FAMILY MEMBERS IT'S WRONG
-DO NOT FUCK CHILDREN, IT'S WRONG

BUT, i cannot disagree these facts : are men's attracted by younger ladies: yes
                                                         do "men's hormones" tell to the men "fuck that tiny little hole" YES

Whatever, sometimes, your hormones says to you "kill this guy, kill him kill him ! "

--- BUT ITS WRONG, YOU DONT NEED OTHER PEOPLE ADVICES TO KNOW IT, you just feel it in your deepest soul...

Sure fucking children is wrong. 14 year olds are not children. They are fully capable of consenting to sex in a meaningful way.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 11:02 am
To each his own, I just don't want to have to buy my sexual partners cigarettes for them... lol.

I took fucking physiology and psyche dude. If I wanted to discuss female reproduction or have to cite some shit I would have stayed in school.

Yes I know I have far too much research and articles and citations on my side, when it is so obvious you are right, because you just know you are right.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: xX-NEW-ORDER-Xx on August 12, 2013, 11:21 am
""Sure fucking children is wrong. 14 year olds are not children.""

----THAT IS THE POINT !-- this is the key of the debate

in my opinion, a 14 yo ( boy or girl ) can choose by himself to have sexual relation or not. (like you said, at this age you're "physically" ready for)

but (s)he can also be more influenced by major people. MORE MORE EASILY

so yep, its not a secret, teenage have sex...   BUT WITH TEENAGE ONLY

SURE 14 YO ARE NOT CHILDREN, BUT IT'S SURE THEY'RE NOT ADULT TOO...






Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: DigitalSS on August 12, 2013, 11:35 am
Wow, ok. I think I'm done with this one now.
I can't believe two people just agreed that a 14 year old is old enough for sex.
I'm really really trying to hold back.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: ananas_xpress on August 12, 2013, 11:36 am
Why do you think I give a shit about when a woman is "fertile"? You sound like a creepy fucking doctor or something bro. I don't go around having sex with women to procreate. Quite the opposite actually... honestly I creep a lot of dating sites and my cutoff point is well over 18. Why the fuck would I want to date or fuck some teenage girl who wants to sit around and watch fucking cartoons or something all day? Ugh.

3 pages in an nobody has mentioned the only true rule regarding this

"Half your age plus 7"
Fuck yea schoolgirls are hot and I've fucked some 15/16 year olds in my time which is legal for me but always obeyed the golden rule.
I find nature is like the silent moderator enforcing this rule as it seems to me the older you get the more dumb and annoying teenagers seem so I never even had a problem implementing it.
Right now my cutoff point is about 19. Any younger and I'm more likely to punch them in the face than fuck them.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: xX-NEW-ORDER-Xx on August 12, 2013, 11:41 am
Wow, ok. I think I'm done with this one now.
I can't believe two people just agreed that a 14 year old is old enough for sex.
I'm really really trying to hold back.

---------  I was 14 at my first time, with a beautifull blond hair teen, and she was 16, i just keep good memories of

that first night !!

where is the problem with that ?

Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: DigitalSS on August 12, 2013, 11:44 am
Wow, ok. I think I'm done with this one now.
I can't believe two people just agreed that a 14 year old is old enough for sex.
I'm really really trying to hold back.

---------  I was 14 at my first time, with a beautifull blond hair teen, and she was 16, i just keep good memories of

that first night !!

where is the problem with that ?

Not a problem at all. In fact congrats on banging a girl a couple years older than you for your first time - but you didn't make it sound like that. You were saying if a 14 year-old girl was willing you would. Is that not basically what you were saying?
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 11:54 am
I respect your resolve but if you go around fucking 14 year olds or condone it you're a weird motherfucker. This is not Elizabethan era England. This is 2013 and grown men should not be fucking 14 year olds. I don't give a fuck about what my ancestors did. I'm pretty sure some of them might have fucked a neanderthal or two, or participated in some genocide, or might have been catholic or something.

Are you a priest by chance?

:D

14 year old legal for sex in Spain legal for sex in Italy legal for sex in Serbia legal for sex in Bosnia legal for sex in Bulgaria legal for sex in Estonia legal for sex in Macedonia legal for sex in Montenegro legal for sex in Portugal legal for sex in Liechtenstein legal for sex in Austria legal for sex in Albania legal for sex in Germany and was legal for sex in Canada until a few years ago. You can fuck 14 year olds all around the world don't need a time machine. This is only a small list. There are tons of developed first world countries around the entire globe where sex with 14 year olds is legal. Bump it up to 15 and you have most of Europe covered.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: DigitalSS on August 12, 2013, 11:59 am
I respect your resolve but if you go around fucking 14 year olds or condone it you're a weird motherfucker. This is not Elizabethan era England. This is 2013 and grown men should not be fucking 14 year olds. I don't give a fuck about what my ancestors did. I'm pretty sure some of them might have fucked a neanderthal or two, or participated in some genocide, or might have been catholic or something.

Are you a priest by chance?

:D

14 year old legal for sex in Spain legal for sex in Italy legal for sex in Serbia legal for sex in Austria legal for sex in Albania legal for sex in Germany legal for sex in Canada until a few years ago. You can fuck 14 year olds all around the world don't need a time machine.

But guess what??? We're not in those countries. We're in America. Look, dude, you can try to justify being a pedophile all you want, I'm still not going to agree with you
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 12:01 pm
I respect your resolve but if you go around fucking 14 year olds or condone it you're a weird motherfucker. This is not Elizabethan era England. This is 2013 and grown men should not be fucking 14 year olds. I don't give a fuck about what my ancestors did. I'm pretty sure some of them might have fucked a neanderthal or two, or participated in some genocide, or might have been catholic or something.

Are you a priest by chance?

:D

14 year old legal for sex in Spain legal for sex in Italy legal for sex in Serbia legal for sex in Austria legal for sex in Albania legal for sex in Germany legal for sex in Canada until a few years ago. You can fuck 14 year olds all around the world don't need a time machine.

But guess what??? We're not in those countries. We're in America. Look, dude, you can try to justify being a pedophile all you want, I'm still not going to agree with you

How the fuck do you know where I am have you traced me through Tor? Look I understand that you are brainwashed by your government and that your powerful imperialist governmnet pressures other countries (like Canada) to be its carbon copy slaves, but don't assume that your fascist religious fundamentalist slave country gets to determine the morality of the world.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: xX-NEW-ORDER-Xx on August 12, 2013, 12:03 pm
hell no ! absolutely no !

i was agreeing that sexuality can begin early... but it's between teenage only, as i said before !

in my opinion, if you feel ready for sexual relation at 14, (and i was) the only "acceptable" way to do it is

with someone of same age.

I DO NOT AGREE SEXUAL RELATION BETWEEN  AN ADULT AND A 14 YO TEENAGE !!

*(even if you're a 14yo guy  who gonna fuck a 35yo fucking beautifull milf, it's gonna be weird...)
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: DigitalSS on August 12, 2013, 12:05 pm
hell no ! absolutely no !

i was agreeing that sexuality can begin early... but it's between teenage only, as i said before !

in my opinion, if you feel ready for sexual relation at 14, (and i was) the only "acceptable" way to do it is

with someone of same age.

I DO NOT AGREE SEXUAL RELATION BETWEEN  AN ADULT AND A 14 YO TEENAGE !!

*(even if you're a 14yo guy  who gonna fuck a 35yo fucking beautifull milf, it's gonna be weird...)

Oh, ok. I'm really sorry for accusing you of that. I thought you were saying it was right! Thank God - The other guys fucking weird tho - he says its right to fuck 14 year-olds
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 12:06 pm
Yay USA is so free

Sex with 15 year old - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Viewing CP               - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Using drugs              - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Buying weed             - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Growing weed          - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA

The most hated despised people in the USA are totally free citizens in Uruguay they are not criminals they are not victimized by the police and they are not persecuted for no reason other than indoctrination and propaganda and religious brainwashing. It is so funny to me to see these brainwashed Americans saying their country is so free. What exactly are you free to do? Free to have your entire internet activity monitored by the NSA? Free to pay half of the money you earn to the government? You have little freedom at all compared to many countries. You are also moral crusaders who ruin lives of people for doing shit that is legal and allowed and socially acceptable in other places. It is fucking insanity that you people think you are free.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: DigitalSS on August 12, 2013, 12:09 pm
Yay USA is so free

Sex with 15 year old - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Viewing CP               - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Using drugs              - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Buying weed             - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Growing weed          - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA

The most hated despised people in the USA are totally free citizens in Uruguay they are not criminals they are not victimized by the police and they are not persecuted for no reason other than indoctrination and propaganda and religious brainwashing. It is so funny to me to see these brainwashed Americans saying their country is so free. What exactly are you free to do? Free to have your entire internet activity monitored by the NSA? Free to pay half of the money you earn to the government? You have little freedom at all compared to many countries. You are also moral crusaders who ruin lives of people for doing shit that is legal and allowed and socially acceptable in other places. It is fucking insanity that you people think you are free.

First off, please don't compare CP to weed, you're making us all look bad. Secondly, just because it's legal in Uruguay makes it right everywhere else?
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 12:16 pm
Yay USA is so free

Sex with 15 year old - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Viewing CP               - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Using drugs              - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Buying weed             - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Growing weed          - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA

The most hated despised people in the USA are totally free citizens in Uruguay they are not criminals they are not victimized by the police and they are not persecuted for no reason other than indoctrination and propaganda and religious brainwashing. It is so funny to me to see these brainwashed Americans saying their country is so free. What exactly are you free to do? Free to have your entire internet activity monitored by the NSA? Free to pay half of the money you earn to the government? You have little freedom at all compared to many countries. You are also moral crusaders who ruin lives of people for doing shit that is legal and allowed and socially acceptable in other places. It is fucking insanity that you people think you are free.

First off, please don't compare CP to weed, you're making us all look bad. Secondly, just because it's legal in Uruguay makes it right everywhere else?

No of course not because it is illegal in USA and that makes it wrong everywhere else. And I can compare CP to weed, viewing CP causes no more harm to people than smoking weed does. There is a huge difference between paying and viewing. More lives are ruined because of the unconstitutional and illegal war on child pornography viewers than are ruined because of the war on weed. There is no difference between these wars at a basic level, they are both manifestations of the same corrupt system.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: xX-NEW-ORDER-Xx on August 12, 2013, 12:21 pm
Man, you live in a dream where everyone can fuck a 14yo butthole without having troubles, wake up !

i agree, laws in half of the world are hypocrits and does not care about teenage sexuality

 ( simply because it's very hard to legiferate, and every case is different from an other. )

i agree, laws about sexuality are more in adequation with our century in europe than in america.

but it does not mean, in any case, that a 30 or 40 yo men (or older) can be with a 14 yo and fuck her (him) without having trouble.

(every)people know that is not MORAL.

YOU FUCK A 15YO GIRL IN EUROPE? WELL OK, YOU DONT GO TO JAIL...  BUT TAKE CARE OF HIS FATHER
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: DigitalSS on August 12, 2013, 12:22 pm
Yay USA is so free

Sex with 15 year old - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Viewing CP               - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Using drugs              - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Buying weed             - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA
Growing weed          - Legal in Uruguay illegal in USA

The most hated despised people in the USA are totally free citizens in Uruguay they are not criminals they are not victimized by the police and they are not persecuted for no reason other than indoctrination and propaganda and religious brainwashing. It is so funny to me to see these brainwashed Americans saying their country is so free. What exactly are you free to do? Free to have your entire internet activity monitored by the NSA? Free to pay half of the money you earn to the government? You have little freedom at all compared to many countries. You are also moral crusaders who ruin lives of people for doing shit that is legal and allowed and socially acceptable in other places. It is fucking insanity that you people think you are free.

First off, please don't compare CP to weed, you're making us all look bad. Secondly, just because it's legal in Uruguay makes it right everywhere else?

No of course not because it is illegal in USA and that makes it wrong everywhere else. And I can compare CP to weed, viewing CP causes no more harm to people than smoking weed does. There is a huge difference between paying and viewing. More lives are ruined because of the unconstitutional and illegal war on child pornography viewers than are ruined because of the war on weed. There is no difference between these wars at a basic level, they are both manifestations of the same corrupt system.

CP causes no harm? Really? Is that why they fucking call it "Child Abuse" - I mean, thats a whole new level of abuse. Go die you sick fuck. Good thing you aren't from the US. Try coming to our country preaching that shit and see how long you last
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: xX-NEW-ORDER-Xx on August 12, 2013, 12:27 pm
from kmfkewm: """ And I can compare CP to weed, viewing CP causes no more harm to people than smoking weed does""""""""

this is the most stupid argument ever seen...

how do you make pot ?  ------growing it
how do you make CP ?-------rape a child

what does more harm ?






Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 12:29 pm
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CP causes no harm? Really? Is that why they fucking call it "Child Abuse" - I mean, thats a whole new level of abuse. Go die you sick fuck. Good thing you aren't from the US. Try coming to our country preaching that shit and see how long you last

Viewing CP causes no harm, if you want to catch up on the facts please see this thread, I am not going over this all again here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=199155.0

Why would I want to go to your country you have no freedom at all and you are all lied to and indoctrinated into thinking that you are the last hope of the freedom for the world. 

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Man, you live in a dream where everyone can fuck a 14yo butthole without having troubles, wake up !

I don't think anyone can, but people in all of the countries I already listed plus dozens of others can.

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i agree, laws about sexuality are more in adequation with our century in europe than in america.

USA is over run with fundamentalist religious whack jobs what do you expect?

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but it does not mean, in any case, that a 30 or 40 yo men (or older) can be with a 14 yo and fuck her (him) without having trouble.

(every)people know that is not MORAL.

YOU FUCK A 15YO GIRL IN EUROPE? WELL OK, YOU DONT GO TO JAIL...  BUT TAKE CARE OF HIS FATHER

Really they all know it is not moral? 15 year olds legal to fuck all over the damn place if they all know it is immoral why do they keep it legal?
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 12:31 pm
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how do you make pot ?  ------growing it
how do you make CP ?-------rape a child

what does more harm ?

what happens when you smoke pot? ----- only you are affected
what happens when you look at cp? ----- only you are affected
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: DigitalSS on August 12, 2013, 12:34 pm
last post bc he's actually making me feel psychically sick. Theres no reasoning with a pedophile. Much like a rabid dog, you just have to put them out of their misery
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: xX-NEW-ORDER-Xx on August 12, 2013, 12:38 pm
man you cant say that...

what happend when youre growing pot... nothing, you're growing pot
what happend when you look at cp: you look someone raping a child.
SO OK, YOU'RE TECHNICALLY NOT RAPING A CHILD WHEN YOU LOOK A CP, BUT THE PROBLEM IS YOU WANT TO DO IT..
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: DigitalSS on August 12, 2013, 12:40 pm
man you cant say that...

what happend when youre growing pot... nothing, you're growing pot
what happend when you look at cp: you look someone raping a child.
SO OK, YOU'RE TECHNICALLY NOT RAPING A CHILD WHEN YOU LOOK A CP, BUT THE PROBLEM IS YOU WANT TO DO IT..
+1
Good job, New World
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 12:41 pm
man you cant say that...

what happend when youre growing pot... nothing, you're growing pot
what happend when you look at cp: you look someone raping a child.
SO OK, YOU'RE TECHNICALLY NOT RAPING A CHILD WHEN YOU LOOK A CP, BUT THE PROBLEM IS YOU WANT TO DO IT..

Oh and who are you the desires police? There should be no such thing as desires police, they are the thought police. Viewing CP is a thought crime.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: xX-NEW-ORDER-Xx on August 12, 2013, 12:52 pm


Really they all know it is not moral? 15 year olds legal to fuck all over the damn place if they all know it is immoral why do they keep it legal?
[/quote]

We keep it legal because we admit that teenage do have a sexuality.
It does not mean that if you fuck a 15 yo girl--you will not be in trouble.
even a judge can, in case by case, can give you some trouble.

especially if you are an old foreigner who comes for sexual tourism. you know it.

Moreover you debate with the most "mindfree" people... we have tor, we are all libertarians about drugs, weapons, sharing files...
we are all very very comprehensive ( im trying to)
but even here, you get some negative answers....

ask to you some question, dont say "but in this country... but in this one.."

just ask to you: is it moral ? is it really moral ?


Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: xX-NEW-ORDER-Xx on August 12, 2013, 01:06 pm
Ok ok...

you just must admit one thing:

there is rules here on earth, and you seems to be one these "exeption" to these rules...

once, i saw a canadian pedophile, he was speaking with a youger one:

the younger one: "but im asking a lot of question to myself, am I sick ? is it a trouble, is it normal ? i feel bad...

the older one: " well we'have all been thinkin' that in a period of our lives.. for me, i'm different, i admit it, i'm sick... but i like it ! )

you could just admit that you're different..

whatever

Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 01:29 pm
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We keep it legal because we admit that teenage do have a sexuality.
It does not mean that if you fuck a 15 yo girl--you will not be in trouble.
even a judge can, in case by case, can give you some trouble.

Yeah trouble if you are teacher of the person or police or similar. No trouble at all for normal person not in power over them.

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especially if you are an old foreigner who comes for sexual tourism. you know it.

Sure then some trouble perhaps depending on country, usually such things prosecuted by home country.

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Moreover you debate with the most "mindfree" people... we have tor, we are all libertarians about drugs, weapons, sharing files...
we are all very very comprehensive ( im trying to)
but even here, you get some negative answers....

You are not so libertarian if you want people sent to prison for viewing images or having consensual sex with 14 year old. I hang out at places dedicated to anarchy there are few who disagree with me at such places. You are pseudo libertarians.

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ask to you some question, dont say "but in this country... but in this one.."

just ask to you: is it moral ? is it really moral ?

Sure looking at pictures is moral. Putting people in prison for looking at pictures is immoral and barbaric behavior. Having sex with people under age of 18 is moral, you think 15 year old is so stupid they do not know what they do? 15 year old is not a 5 year old.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: xX-NEW-ORDER-Xx on August 12, 2013, 01:50 pm
"""You are not so libertarian if you want people sent to prison for viewing images or having consensual sex with 14 year old. I hang out at places dedicated to anarchy there are few who disagree with me at such places. You are pseudo libertarians.""""""""

i never said i want a cp viewer in prison. never.-- i'm against prison principle in most of cases. most of.

i've spoke about morality only. that all.

moreover i dont need any laws from an other country ( or mine ) , or even advises of an other "anarchy" comunity to teach me what is good or wrong.

i just make my own advice by myself, you dont know me, so dont judge me.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: ananas_xpress on August 12, 2013, 02:12 pm
I've said it before and I'll say it again, "Half your age + 7"
Regardless of the legal age in your country if you stick to that your doing ok.

I'm beginning to think Americans have such a fucked up attitude toward sexuality reading some responses on here.
Just because it might be legal to have sex with 14 year old where I live doesn't mean people are doing it.

Are people here suggesting 16 year old's are not having sex, Doesn't that come with a mandatory rape charge attached even if you are 16 yourself?
Is that not just a little fucked up??

I think movie classifications sum this up best where in the states generally speaking movies that depict female orgasm or passionate lovemaking get slapped with a nc18 or whatever it's called but depicting rape and violence is just fine. I watched a Doc about the MPAA a while back and some of these points really stuck.
Just this summer I was running around naked at a few festivals but would never chance that shit in the US and pretty sure if  I carried my way of being on over there I'd be slapped with a sex offender conviction by now. Not that I'm condoning it you cant even piss in an alleyway right?
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: ananas_xpress on August 12, 2013, 02:17 pm
Oh an if you are a pedophile fucking draw yourself a few images or jerk off the fucking toy catalog or better still use your imagination like I often had to when I was a teenager.

The moment images of kids who have no means of giving consent start appearing on the internet and people charge for that shit is time you crossed the line and we are into exploitation territory.
And yes if you view that shit you are creating demand for it, any other excuse falls short.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 02:46 pm
Oh an if you are a pedophile fucking draw yourself a few images or jerk off the fucking toy catalog or better still use your imagination like I often had to when I was a teenager.

The moment images of kids who have no means of giving consent start appearing on the internet and people charge for that shit is time you crossed the line and we are into exploitation territory.
And yes if you view that shit you are creating demand for it, any other excuse falls short.

Sure paying for it should be illegal. Viewing it creates demand is the mantra I hear but there is no evidence that simple viewing of CP causes child sex abuse to take place. Also there are technical solutions that can hide demand.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: ananas_xpress on August 12, 2013, 03:04 pm
Oh an if you are a pedophile fucking draw yourself a few images or jerk off the fucking toy catalog or better still use your imagination like I often had to when I was a teenager.

The moment images of kids who have no means of giving consent start appearing on the internet and people charge for that shit is time you crossed the line and we are into exploitation territory.
And yes if you view that shit you are creating demand for it, any other excuse falls short.

Sure paying for it should be illegal. Viewing it creates demand is the mantra I hear but there is no evidence that simple viewing of CP causes child sex abuse to take place. Also there are technical solutions that can hide demand.

Of hand remark but I feel even without monetary gain in any sort of community/forum where images are shared there is "rep" whether it's numerical like on SR or the opinion people build that this guy posts awesome pics and said submitter takes pride in what they do driving them to continue this behavior.

I haven't fully thought this out but I think if there was state sanctioned CP "packs" containing  material that was already public domain and pedophiles would not be convicted for possession of this I would probably support that since it would have the ability to reduce harm as it would be safe for said pedophiles to possess therefore people would have less temptation to go in search of illegal CP  thus leading to less incentive for distributors to produce it but I cant see that happening any time soon!

I've watched enough documentary's on the issue to form the opinion it's something that cant really be helped in people but at the same time people with this compulsion are inflicting a lot of harm on the most vulnerable in society. What to do...Educate is my vote
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 03:26 pm
Nobody inflicts harm on anybody by looking at a picture.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: ananas_xpress on August 12, 2013, 03:53 pm
Nobody inflicts harm on anybody by looking at a picture.

Sorry but I just don't agree,

Lets change the context altogether to something a bit weird but lets face it CP to a person not interested in that is just not in any way understandable.

Say I decide my new thing which I gain sexual gratification from is having sex with fish.
I'm not sure if this is normal activity but like most people the internet is probably the best place to find people who share similar interests so I perhaps start a site on TOR as I'm a pretty sure my sexual orientation is illegal and at the very least frowned upon by mainstream society.
I talk about my fantasy's and upload some pictures of me ejaculating on some of my favorite fish.
Next day I see I have lots of e-mails from people saying how they have the same interest and really enjoyed my pictures but they are afraid to take the next step and actually have sex with a fish but thank me for posting an image that allows them to find an outlet for their sexual desires.

I gain reassurance from the fact others share my interest and I feel am doing something that provides others with the same feelings of gratification I get from fucking a fish without actually doing it.
Am I more or less likely to put additional fish sodomy pictures on my site??

Most people can fill in the blanks from here and I honestly believe you are naive or don't want to admit that looking at a picture does not encourage people to make more of them.
Sorry for the silly example, Only maybe Kayne West could relate but I feel I had to take this into a totally different and weird context to make my point.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 04:19 pm
Nobody inflicts harm on anybody by looking at a picture.

Sorry but I just don't agree,

Lets change the context altogether to something a bit weird but lets face it CP to a person not interested in that is just not in any way understandable.

Say I decide my new thing which I gain sexual gratification from is having sex with fish.
I'm not sure if this is normal activity but like most people the internet is probably the best place to find people who share similar interests so I perhaps start a site on TOR as I'm a pretty sure my sexual orientation is illegal and at the very least frowned upon by mainstream society.
I talk about my fantasy's and upload some pictures of me ejaculating on some of my favorite fish.
Next day I see I have lots of e-mails from people saying how they have the same interest and really enjoyed my pictures but they are afraid to take the next step and actually have sex with a fish but thank me for posting an image that allows them to find an outlet for their sexual desires.

I gain reassurance from the fact others share my interest and I feel am doing something that provides others with the same feelings of gratification I get from fucking a fish without actually doing it.
Am I more or less likely to put additional fish sodomy pictures on my site??

Most people can fill in the blanks from here and I honestly believe you are naive or don't want to admit that looking at a picture does not encourage people to make more of them.
Sorry for the silly example, Only maybe Kayne West could relate but I feel I had to take this into a totally different and weird context to make my point.

So we should make it illegal to thank people who do illegal things? Or to encourage people to do illegal things? Or just for child pornography? You just have a double standard is all. You apply special logic to child pornography that is not applied to anything else. How about we have a law that says you cannot encourage people to use illegal drugs. You can not say "Good!" when somebody has robbed a store that you think exploits its workers. Any speech that gives the impression of support for criminal behavior should be outlawed. You fucked a fish because you wanted to fuck a fish, if I look at the pictures it doesn't make the fish you fucked any more or less fucked and if you go out and fuck more fish because of it you are the one who is at fault. I did not put a fucking gun to your head and tell you to go out and fuck fish, I did not help you fuck fish, I did not pay you for photographs of you fucking fish, I am not responsible for your behavior and putting the blame on me is only reducing the blame on yourself. Saying that somebody only fucks kids because people look at the pictures is minimization of the behavior of the person who fucked a kid saying that they cannot control themselves and they are under the control of people looking at pictures. It is fucking insanity, there is no sense in it, if your logic was applied to anything else in life you would scream bloody murder about how your freedom is restricted ("Oh I cannot say I think people should smoke weed? I cannot say that I smoke weed? This is fascism!"). You people who argue against me have no validity to what you say, you have only mantras and emotions, you do not have science or truth on your side only baseless lies that you have repeated so much that you believe them.

So anyway let's make a technical solution then! Really Encrypted Keyword Search seems like it is the answer to all of your complaints. You go and fuck a fish and then you tag the image with keyword "fish fucker" and upload it to Encrypted Keyword Search server, now someone who likes fish fucking pictures can go to a program and type in "fish fucking pictures" and it queries the EKS server in such a way that they can obtain your picture without the EKS server being aware of what they searched for or what picture they obtained (nor can the EKS server even determine that it had such a picture). Now the demand is hidden, you do not know if anybody downloaded your picture, the EKS server doesn't know if anybody downloaded your picture or even what your picture is. There is no demand that can be observed. Why should it be illegal for them to use a program such as to obtain files that nobody can know they obtained? It is irrelevant in any case though, because such a program would offer nearly perfect anonymity anyway so literally nobody would be able to tell that they obtained that image or what they searched for. It seems to have the added advantage of hiding this demand that you think translates directly into people running off and finding kids to fuck. So I think you have no problem with this system right?
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 12, 2013, 04:22 pm
Ok ok...

you just must admit one thing:

there is rules here on earth, and you seems to be one these "exeption" to these rules...

once, i saw a canadian pedophile, he was speaking with a youger one:

the younger one: "but im asking a lot of question to myself, am I sick ? is it a trouble, is it normal ? i feel bad...

the older one: " well we'have all been thinkin' that in a period of our lives.. for me, i'm different, i admit it, i'm sick... but i like it ! )

you could just admit that you're different..

whatever

I seriously doubt that I am different, all empirical evidence points to people who claim they are different from me as likely being liars.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: xX-NEW-ORDER-Xx on August 12, 2013, 05:02 pm
i have a wish:

kmfkewm could be a fish, and ananas xpress may use him for his new sexual orientation ?

and after, the video could be download via this new program he just created...

PS: the fish is under 16...
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: jlranier on August 12, 2013, 05:20 pm
This thread is why we can't have nice things.

Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: ananas_xpress on August 12, 2013, 06:47 pm

So we should make it illegal to thank people who do illegal things? Or to encourage people to do illegal things? Or just for child pornography? You just have a double standard is all. You apply special logic to child pornography that is not applied to anything else. How about we have a law that says you cannot encourage people to use illegal drugs. You can not say "Good!" when somebody has robbed a store that you think exploits its workers. Any speech that gives the impression of support for criminal behavior should be outlawed. You fucked a fish because you wanted to fuck a fish, if I look at the pictures it doesn't make the fish you fucked any more or less fucked and if you go out and fuck more fish because of it you are the one who is at fault. I did not put a fucking gun to your head and tell you to go out and fuck fish, I did not help you fuck fish, I did not pay you for photographs of you fucking fish, I am not responsible for your behavior and putting the blame on me is only reducing the blame on yourself. Saying that somebody only fucks kids because people look at the pictures is minimization of the behavior of the person who fucked a kid saying that they cannot control themselves and they are under the control of people looking at pictures. It is fucking insanity, there is no sense in it, if your logic was applied to anything else in life you would scream bloody murder about how your freedom is restricted ("Oh I cannot say I think people should smoke weed? I cannot say that I smoke weed? This is fascism!"). You people who argue against me have no validity to what you say, you have only mantras and emotions, you do not have science or truth on your side only baseless lies that you have repeated so much that you believe them.

So anyway let's make a technical solution then! Really Encrypted Keyword Search seems like it is the answer to all of your complaints. You go and fuck a fish and then you tag the image with keyword "fish fucker" and upload it to Encrypted Keyword Search server, now someone who likes fish fucking pictures can go to a program and type in "fish fucking pictures" and it queries the EKS server in such a way that they can obtain your picture without the EKS server being aware of what they searched for or what picture they obtained (nor can the EKS server even determine that it had such a picture). Now the demand is hidden, you do not know if anybody downloaded your picture, the EKS server doesn't know if anybody downloaded your picture or even what your picture is. There is no demand that can be observed. Why should it be illegal for them to use a program such as to obtain files that nobody can know they obtained? It is irrelevant in any case though, because such a program would offer nearly perfect anonymity anyway so literally nobody would be able to tell that they obtained that image or what they searched for. It seems to have the added advantage of hiding this demand that you think translates directly into people running off and finding kids to fuck. So I think you have no problem with this system right?

I chose to make such an abstract point there because the same logic does apply in other scenarios and I don't want to limit myself to singling out child pornography.
I would have the same stance to the subset of people who can only get off via scenes of rape if someone was to upload images or video depicting this so to say I carry double standard is not true.

People have egos, I have an ego. I send Facebook pictures of girls I fuck to my friends and seek their approval. It's not ideal nor it's not admirable but in a community of like-minded people who I chose to associate with I get something from it and so do they, hell if I had nudes of the same girl and it was a one time thing I'd probably do the same. Am I more likely to try and persuade her to take such pictures because of that? Honestly I can probably say yes. To say this logic is somehow non existent in CP circles is denial if you ask me.
I can live with myself in doing this as that person chose to take them sends end them to me, I cross the line if I was to do that while they slept or without their knowledge. I apply the same logic to CP, Rape,snuff etc etc and I believe there is a moral line and that is when a person does something without the subjects consent.

I'm not saying people only make CP because people look at it but I am saying just because someone doesn't pay doesn't make it OK either. There can still be a non monetary incentive.

Your drug analogy is lost on me for the same reason because I am not harming somebody for smoking a joint.  If you can tell me how I am maybe I will reconsider my morals. If you say "somebody might copy me" that's moot because they are only harming themselves if they do.

But anyway that's my view and I'd like to move on to say I think what you propose as regard an Encrypted Keyword Search is actually a good idea in the sense that it can take away exactly the sort of egotistical part that I believe is inherent in human nature and would be all for it.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 13, 2013, 10:41 am
i have a wish:

kmfkewm could be a fish, and ananas xpress may use him for his new sexual orientation ?

and after, the video could be download via this new program he just created...

PS: the fish is under 16...

Oh but I know how to consent so I will just say no. Because I am over 13 and know how to tell people to fuck off.

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I chose to make such an abstract point there because the same logic does apply in other scenarios and I don't want to limit myself to singling out child pornography.
I would have the same stance to the subset of people who can only get off via scenes of rape if someone was to upload images or video depicting this so to say I carry double standard is not true.

So we should ban holocaust pictures too right?

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People have egos, I have an ego. I send Facebook pictures of girls I fuck to my friends and seek their approval. It's not ideal nor it's not admirable but in a community of like-minded people who I chose to associate with I get something from it and so do they, hell if I had nudes of the same girl and it was a one time thing I'd probably do the same. Am I more likely to try and persuade her to take such pictures because of that? Honestly I can probably say yes. To say this logic is somehow non existent in CP circles is denial if you ask me.

So you only have sex with girls to show your friends on facebook, and if it was not for them you would not have sex? Because your argument is that people looking at child pornography leads to people having sex with kids. So you go out and have sex just to show your friends on facebook? I don't think that is typical behavior.

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I can live with myself in doing this as that person chose to take them sends end them to me, I cross the line if I was to do that while they slept or without their knowledge. I apply the same logic to CP, Rape,snuff etc etc and I believe there is a moral line and that is when a person does something without the subjects consent.

Sure thing it is bad to rape murder or produce CP. Looking at pictures is not any of these things. You make an argument against production and pretend it applies to people viewing images.

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I'm not saying people only make CP because people look at it but I am saying just because someone doesn't pay doesn't make it OK either. There can still be a non monetary incentive.

Find me a single case where somebody saw the number of hits on a server and decided that because the number was so high they ought to go out and rape kids. Good luck. Even if you find such a person it makes no difference anyway. If somebody decides to rape kids because the word "the" is used in English, are you going to campaign that we strike the word from the dictionary? It doesn't matter why somebody else decides to rape kids. The only exception to this is in cases where you pay them to rape kids. If you pay somebody to kill people you both go to prison. If you say you think that people should be killed and it leads somebody to kill people, only they go to prison.  If you tell somebody to kill a certain person you both go to prison if they do. If you say that you wish a certain person was dead and it leads somebody to kill them, only they go to prison. This same logic applies to all criminal activity other than child pornography related offenses. If you pay somebody to molest kids you both go to prison. If you say that you think children should be molested (what you argue is happening when people view CP, and why it should be illegal), then in some cases you both go to prison. If you tell somebody to molest a certain person, you both go to prison if they do. If you say that you wish a certain person would get molested (by looking at CP featuring them, which you claim is essentially encouraging the person to be molested again), then you both go to prison.

The only way you can be logically consistent is to either bring your stance on deviant pornography in line with every single other thing you have belief on, or to claim that people should not be allowed to say they think any crime should be committed and to claim that you should not be allowed to say that illegal things should be allowed to happen to anybody. If you were logically consistent you would be locking up the neo nazis who talk about how they wish the Jews would be subjected to genocide again, you would be locking up the KKK members who think that blacks should be lynched again, you would be locking up the Anarchists who say they think the government should be violently overthrown, you would be locking up the people who say they wish that somebody they hate would die, etc. But you are not so illogical to say these things are you? But in the case of deviant pornography you hold people to a totally different standard and you want to police their thoughts and their beliefs rather than their actions.

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Your drug analogy is lost on me for the same reason because I am not harming somebody for smoking a joint.  If you can tell me how I am maybe I will reconsider my morals. If you say "somebody might copy me" that's moot because they are only harming themselves if they do.

You and the others who argue against me use so many logical fallacies that it is sad. You are begging the question:

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An argument that improperly assumes as true the very point the speaker is trying to argue for is said in formal logic to “beg the question.”

The war on CP viewers is like the war on drugs because in both cases the government and media are brainwashing people and the end result is to send millions of people to prison for profit. The war on CP viewing is a multi billion dollar industry in the USA alone. You smoking weed causes no more harm to others than someone looking at CP causes. If you want to say that somebody looking at CP causes demand that is then filled with supply, I could say that you smoking weed could fund violent Mexican cartels who kill innocent people. You will say but oh that is the fault of the Mexican cartels it is not my fault! And then I will say yes just like it is not the fault of somebody who views CP that somebody else rapes children. You cannot use this stretching of responsibility on CP users without doing it on yourself. Your demand for drugs leads to violence, there is no question about it, if there was not a demand for drugs a lot of people would be a lot less victimized in the world. Do you feel the responsibility for the deaths linked to the cartels is on your shoulders? Then why do you want to try to say the responsibility for child molestation is on the shoulders of people who do not molest children? Using double standard logic is one thing but in this case you are just being hypocritical.   

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But anyway that's my view and I'd like to move on to say I think what you propose as regard an Encrypted Keyword Search is actually a good idea in the sense that it can take away exactly the sort of egotistical part that I believe is inherent in human nature and would be all for it.

Sure Encrypted Keyword Search is good. But even today the P2P network CP viewers come close to this, and they are the vast majority of those arrested for CP. They do not network with each other on forums or communicate with each other, they simply type search terms into P2P programs and obtain files from them. The only real difference is that in the case of the P2P traders it is theoretically possible for somebody to notice that a CP file was searched for and downloaded, Encrypted Keyword Search can remove even this possibility. Somebody uploads a file to a set of servers and it is essentially in a knowledge black hole, nobody knows where it is anymore or if it ever comes out again.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: xX-NEW-ORDER-Xx on August 13, 2013, 11:40 am
from kmfkmw:  """"""So we should ban holocaust pictures too right? """""""

Holocaust pictures are used in a educational goal, for learning about mistakes done in the past that should never happened again.

CP is for your pleasure only. A kid ( hard to educate but so easy to break ), a kid has been raped and broken for your sexual pleasure.

( Moreover, if someone use holocaust pictures for sexual purpose, yes , it should be ban )

you're just an asshole. youre trying to give some credit to CP, sayin' some of them could do CP with consentement...

You just forget than in "Child Pornography" , there is "Child"...

I just let down,

and hope you will be raped by someone with a dick as big as my harm, you will know something about consentement :-)
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 13, 2013, 12:29 pm
from kmfkmw:  """"""So we should ban holocaust pictures too right? """""""

Holocaust pictures are used in a educational goal, for learning about mistakes done in the past that should never happened again.

CP is for your pleasure only. A kid ( hard to educate but so easy to break ), a kid has been raped and broken for your sexual pleasure.

( Moreover, if someone use holocaust pictures for sexual purpose, yes , it should be ban )

So sexual pleasure is magical and makes things that are otherwise not bad bad?

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you're just an asshole. youre trying to give some credit to CP, sayin' some of them could do CP with consentement...

I never said that CP can be made with consent, short of the teenagers making their own shit.

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You just forget than in "Child Pornography" , there is "Child"...

Did you forget that in "Holocaust" there are millions of gassed Jews?

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I just let down,

and hope you will be raped by someone with a dick as big as my harm, you will know something about consentement :-)

Ah yes the old standard argument of "Rape is bad and I hope people who look at pictures of rape get raped"
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: thedopestjunkie on August 13, 2013, 01:50 pm
This thread is why we can't have nice things.
LMAO its true
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: james frazer on August 14, 2013, 09:06 am
Fifty years ago, drug offenders were at the bottom of the European prison pecking order. The threats commonly made towards them were similar to the threats in this thread made against pedos. The lower down the chain one sees oneself, the more important it becomes to lash out at those below in order to preserve a sense of worth.

As for the age of consent, the argument is less about what it should be, than whether one culture has the right to lay down what it should be for other cultures.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 14, 2013, 11:02 am
What happened to the final thread on CP to declutter all others thread? And what kind of amphetamine is this guy on that causes him to type out page long tirades about the merits of child porn on a weekly basis? GOD DAMN.

People stopped posting in it and started posting here. I am not on amphetamine, and I am not really saying that child porn is meritorious at all, I am merely saying that people should not be sent to prison for looking at pictures. 
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: FreedomOutlaw on August 15, 2013, 10:44 am
So i hear the freedom hosting author was arrested and is refused bail due to an extradition attempt by the u.s to try him for a whole number of pedo offenses. This is meant to be the same guy who created tor mail right? How ironic that such a liberating tool is used for the most grotesque, heinous and deceptive crimes. I hate fucking pedos , i wish them an eternity in hell for abusing the purest innocence known to man, the child.  But i hate LE too, and these pedos are giving us tor/SR uses a bad name. They create heat for us, like a kid robbing on your block and bringing fedz. thats what happens to us. Why dont we honest SR users do the polices job and team up to rid the world of these cunts. I got love for fellow dealers man, but fuck the pedos. we should go undecover and shit and fuck these cunts up cos they bring heat!! what u guys think.


So, you want to be a cop?

I think it was Jacob Applebaum that said the consensus was, they don't want to introduce an element that they are trying to avoid in the first place.

Dude, if you want to play Cops and Robbers, or Cowboys and Indians, I suggest joining the military first, and go kill innocent women and children in Afghanistan. Then, when your tour is finished, you can become a policeman. Until then, perhaps you should stick to the clearnet.

When you host your own site, then you can pick and choose what you allow to be posted on it.  I host a site and I don't allow any CP on it. That is MY prerogative because i own the site, thanks to the good graces of the Tor people.

If I happen to come accross someone who is actively raping children, I'll kill him myself. But I am not, nor do I have any desire to be a cop. I've been locked up several times and did two bids in prison. I fucking hate cops. You should too. When you say "Fuck LE...", perhaps you should fuck yourself.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 15, 2013, 11:32 am
I think it was Jacob Appelbaum who also said if you want to censor CP you are a fucking fascist.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: FreedomOutlaw on August 15, 2013, 03:01 pm
I think it was Jacob Appelbaum who also said if you want to censor CP you are a fucking fascist.

Well, if you have a problem with Applebaum, (IDK if you are being sarcastic), and he is responsible for developing and launching Tor, then maybe you should leave. Or join your local law enforcement and hunt him down like a dog and stick him in prison with Manning.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: FreedomOutlaw on August 15, 2013, 03:02 pm
What do Nazis and child porn have in common and why is this a repetative talking point? Nazi child porn sounds like the most evil thing of all time.

Slightly off topic, but did you know the Nazis developed Sex Dolls for their soldiers?
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 15, 2013, 03:22 pm
I think it was Jacob Appelbaum who also said if you want to censor CP you are a fucking fascist.

Well, if you have a problem with Applebaum, (IDK if you are being sarcastic), and he is responsible for developing and launching Tor, then maybe you should leave. Or join your local law enforcement and hunt him down like a dog and stick him in prison with Manning.

I have no problem with Appelbaum I am on the same page as he is.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: FreedomOutlaw on August 15, 2013, 03:39 pm
I think it was Jacob Appelbaum who also said if you want to censor CP you are a fucking fascist.

Well, if you have a problem with Applebaum, (IDK if you are being sarcastic), and he is responsible for developing and launching Tor, then maybe you should leave. Or join your local law enforcement and hunt him down like a dog and stick him in prison with Manning.

I have no problem with Appelbaum I am on the same page as he is.


My bad. I had you confused with the OP.


These idiots want to go hunting down CP, they might end up on a clearnet site and get the exit node operated busted, or something.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: Hitch on August 15, 2013, 03:42 pm
What happened to the final thread on CP to declutter all others thread? And what kind of amphetamine is this guy on that causes him to type out page long tirades about the merits of child porn on a weekly basis? GOD DAMN.

   Dude, you are so boring, pretty much every one of your posts is self-aggrandisement, self-pity, or just bullshit. Not once did kmfkewm write "tirades about the merits of child porn", which doesn't even make sense, you don't write tirades on the merits of things.
 
   While child rapists, sadists and the like are monstrous, most people don't hate paedophiles for that reason. You hate them because you're allowed to hate them. It's socially acceptable, for pretty much everyone, to isolate, dominate, and subjugate paedophiles. They are, in this modern pack culture, the runt, the one that everyone is above in the heirarchy, the one everyone can attack when feeling weak and powerless.

   Stigma's also a big factor. You all rabidly attack anyone with who doesn't toe the party line, immediately shutting them down by saying they must be a paedophile. It's not very different to the way homosexuals, who were the whipping dogs not so long ago, and their heterosexual defenders were treated. I will make it clear that I'm not equating homosexuality with paedophilia. But I am saying there are definite similarities in "normal" societies response to them. Which is to say society has a standard, brutal response to the marginalised.
   
   Good on kmfkewm for once again being a voice of thoughful reason, someone who deeply considers issues, I know you don't give a shit what these wankers think about you, keep writing, you and Astor are my favourite posters.

   Groovy Bruce, good luck with your shitty benzo business, seems to be booming mate.

   
   
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 15, 2013, 03:42 pm
I think it was Jacob Appelbaum who also said if you want to censor CP you are a fucking fascist.

Well, if you have a problem with Applebaum, (IDK if you are being sarcastic), and he is responsible for developing and launching Tor, then maybe you should leave. Or join your local law enforcement and hunt him down like a dog and stick him in prison with Manning.

I have no problem with Appelbaum I am on the same page as he is.


My bad. I had you confused with the OP.


These idiots want to go hunting down CP, they might end up on a clearnet site and get the exit node operated busted, or something.

Or even worse they could bust people whose only crimes were arranging pixels in forbidden patterns 0_0
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 15, 2013, 03:47 pm
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While child rapists, sadists and the like are monstrous, most people don't hate paedophiles for that reason.

What is wrong with sadists? It is not their fault that suffering brings them pleasure. As long as they do not cause others to suffer I don't care about them either.

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Stigma's also a big factor. You all rabidly attack anyone with who doesn't toe the party line, immediately shutting them down by saying they must be a paedophile.

This is why you must post a ten page disclaimer that you are not a pedophile before talking about anything related at all to it. People do it all the time, anything about CP they feel a compulsion to say they are against it, even if it is hardly relevant to the topic they must post their disclaimer letting us know they are not pedophiles.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: FreedomOutlaw on August 15, 2013, 03:51 pm
I think it was Jacob Appelbaum who also said if you want to censor CP you are a fucking fascist.

Well, if you have a problem with Applebaum, (IDK if you are being sarcastic), and he is responsible for developing and launching Tor, then maybe you should leave. Or join your local law enforcement and hunt him down like a dog and stick him in prison with Manning.

I have no problem with Appelbaum I am on the same page as he is.


My bad. I had you confused with the OP.


These idiots want to go hunting down CP, they might end up on a clearnet site and get the exit node operated busted, or something.

Or even worse they could bust people whose only crimes were arranging pixels in forbidden patterns 0_0

If you ask me, they are the security risk.


If you don't like CP, fine, neither do I.
If you find out your neighbor is having sex with children and you kill him, fine.
If you take an active role hunting people down because of something they may be thinking, and get yourself or an innocent bystander arrested in the process, I'll kill you myself.


I remember reading an article about an exit node operator that got arrested because Polish LE was going through his exit node, to try to find people hosting CP sites, and got caught in an Austrian LE Honey Pot who were looking for people looking for CP.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: Hitch on August 15, 2013, 03:52 pm
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While child rapists, sadists and the like are monstrous, most people don't hate paedophiles for that reason.

What is wrong with sadists? It is not their fault that suffering brings them pleasure. As long as they do not cause others to suffer I don't care about them either.


   :) You are right, not the best choice of words. I meant individuals who inflict unwanted pain/injury on others.
Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: FreedomOutlaw on August 15, 2013, 04:08 pm
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This is why you must post a ten page disclaimer that you are not a pedophile before talking about anything related at all to it. People do it all the time, anything about CP they feel a compulsion to say they are against it, even if it is hardly relevant to the topic they must post their disclaimer letting us know they are not pedophiles.

Some people  don't have a very good grasp on the laws of logic. They like to build strawmen and use ad homs in attempt to discredit people that they think are wrong.


>You think drugs should legal? What are you, a junkie?

> You think gay people should be able to get married? What are you, a fag?

Etc, etc, etc.


Title: Re: FUCK LE....BUT FUCK PEDOS TOO!
Post by: kmfkewm on August 16, 2013, 10:45 am
What happened to the final thread on CP to declutter all others thread? And what kind of amphetamine is this guy on that causes him to type out page long tirades about the merits of child porn on a weekly basis? GOD DAMN.

   Dude, you are so boring, pretty much every one of your posts is self-aggrandisement, self-pity, or just bullshit. Not once did kmfkewm write "tirades about the merits of child porn", which doesn't even make sense, you don't write tirades on the merits of things.
 
   While child rapists, sadists and the like are monstrous, most people don't hate paedophiles for that reason. You hate them because you're allowed to hate them. It's socially acceptable, for pretty much everyone, to isolate, dominate, and subjugate paedophiles. They are, in this modern pack culture, the runt, the one that everyone is above in the heirarchy, the one everyone can attack when feeling weak and powerless.

   Stigma's also a big factor. You all rabidly attack anyone with who doesn't toe the party line, immediately shutting them down by saying they must be a paedophile. It's not very different to the way homosexuals, who were the whipping dogs not so long ago, and their heterosexual defenders were treated. I will make it clear that I'm not equating homosexuality with paedophilia. But I am saying there are definite similarities in "normal" societies response to them. Which is to say society has a standard, brutal response to the marginalised.
   
   Good on kmfkewm for once again being a voice of thoughful reason, someone who deeply considers issues, I know you don't give a shit what these wankers think about you, keep writing, you and Astor are my favourite posters.

   Groovy Bruce, good luck with your shitty benzo business, seems to be booming mate.

   
 

Holy ad hominem Batman it looks like we got ourselves a pederast. In all seriousness he doesn't sound like a boy fucker, and is one of the most knowledgeable posters here. But nobody really wants to discuss pedophiles here and I disagree with him in this regard. Pedophiles are picked on and reviled for a reason. Even criminals look down upon them and someone needs to be at the bottom of the pecking order. If it ties up FBI resources, look at CP, by all means. Just don't expect to be able to type out an articulate reply or defense on a forum in a special housing jail unit because crackheads and other social failures plan on choking you to death with a towel or treating you like a victimized child.

Pedophiles are picked on and reviled for a reason, I cannot argue with that. The primary reason being that the media has made them equal to child molesters in the eyes of the general public, the secondary reason being that humans have a tendency to hate people who are not the same as they are, and pedophiles are a pretty small percentage of the population. The primary reason they hate ephebophiles I am not sure considering all evidence points to the majority of men being ephebophiles, probably it has something to do with the media casting such people as deviant sexual predators. In most of the world ephebophiles are not despised at all or even made into criminals, I am not sure what is so special about USA, UK and Australia that they want to play pretend.

Sending people who look at illegal pictures to be choked to death by crackheads in prison is extremely cruel and barbaric. In the future people will look back at today and the mass hysteria and primitive thinking of our times will be studied much how we study the Salem Witch Trials and similar.