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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: squarertof23 on October 22, 2011, 02:12 am
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(Hi, I asked a variation of this question on the forum recently - but when the forum went down, so did my posting, and I didn't get to read all the responses, so I'm trying again.)
I (in the USA) ordered some mdma pills from the NL to be sent to my real name and home address. When the package arrived, it had already been opened by US Customs, the contents seized, and there was the standard letter inside the package.
My understanding is that now the US Customs has my name and address in a database that they refer to, and that they look for packages addressed to me, and examine them more closely. So, I don't want to order internationally using my real name and address anymore.
I had this idea, I'd like to hear if this is a workable solution.
I would go to a place like UPS and open a private mailbox. I'd show my real ID, give my real name (let's say it is John Brown) and real home address, but indicate that I'm using the private mailbox for a (made up) business, let's say I called it "ACME Supplies". I'd try to get some junk mail sent to this private mailbox using the addressee name of "ACME Supplies". Then, I'd order mdma from trusted NL vendors on SR, sent to this private mailbox address, using the addressee name of "ACME Supplies" (instead of my real name, John Brown).
Are there problems with this idea? I admit, I've never used a private mailbox before, so I am completely unfamiliar with exactly how they work.
My thought is, if my real name (John Brown) and home address is on the US Customs list, that's what they'll be looking for - They won't be looking exceptionally harder at packages addressed to "ACME Supplies" using the private mailbox address. Right?
Unless - Do the providers of private mailboxes send data on the owners of the private mailboxes to the US Customs so they could cross-reference the addressee name of "ACME Supplies" with the real name of the owner of the private mailbox (John Brown) with the entry for John Brown on the US Customs' list?
Thanks in advance.
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google it. but ill sum it up for you
you will receive a letter in the mail, asking if you want to destroy the package, or claim it.
sign either one and youre fucked.
thats all! next time, google! :)
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Listen.
If a package is suspicious thats when they open it, and end up sending you a seizure letter. There are 2 ways which they decide if its suspicious.
1. X-ray
2. Drug sniffing dog.
They do not have someone who sits at a computer all day typing in addresses for EVERY incoming package. Just imagine the time and cost involved with that.
Over the past year and a half, I have gotten 3 love letters from customs. Yes I ship to the same address, same name. Yes, I still receive items that get past them.
Now. I do not know what happens if I collect lets say like 5 letters. Is that when they do the CD, or is it 10 letters? Do they only do it if its over X amount of grams/pounds?
Pills are bulky, thats why they are seized more than powder.
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Do the providers of private mailboxes send data on the owners of the private mailboxes to the US Customs so they could cross-reference the addressee name of "ACME Supplies" with the real name of the owner of the private mailbox (John Brown) with the entry for John Brown on the US Customs' list?
No. Mailbox providers do not submit any records until they are either 1) served with a warrant, or2) an administrative request. under the appropriate section of the DHS CFR's (Patriot Act). There is no preemptive submission of mailbox owner records. to agencies, as far as I am aware 0 I guess there is a chance that they are data mining these PMB owner records but that is a big job on the data entry side and keeping the records current. These addresses are treated as virgin unless and until there is a major, actionable screw up by the renter of the box, or if the franchisee has a track record of dealing with money launderers or ....drug dealers. Brighton Beach Brooklyn is Russian Mob territory, and has had several busts whose evidence trails runs through UPS stores, and other non-national franchise PMBs. So, there might be scrutiny of a class of customers of a PMB, in which case the DEA or Bank regulators will hand a list to the PBM operator and say, anyone like that here? they may look through all the records, but only pull the ones they are focusing on.
Mostly, in suburban, urban, or rural PMB's, the records sit in a dusty file for a fixed amount of time determined by the records retention regulations. If a seizure leads to a criminal investigation and potential controlled deliveries, then yes, your cover is blown and you must fallback on SR technique. 1) do not sign anything ever, 2) have a mix of legit mail go to your new "venture", 3) deny any connection to you and the contraband, 4) keep your SR computer sanitary. I could use more polish in that regard, but I am getting much better, keeping my PGP keys in a hidden encrypted volume, my passwords in 1pass with a strong master password. And I don't leave the SR and forums logged in when I am away. You can read up on security on the forums here and there are many books and articles. TOR is not perfect either so know the limits.
Taken individually, the security measures of TOR and PGP, and SR's no address retention policy are not enough to thwart a determined LE investigation. But, when taken collectively, and combined with personal use amounts shipped very infrequently, make such investigations very hard to compile into a conviction - if the communications via computer cannot be tied to a controlled package - then they have nothing. But is it surprisingly challenging to have a leak proof system, although you can improve yours little by little. TOR, PGP, stong passwords changed often, keep PGP keys off of your main drive, use the TOR bundles that do not compile history, and use a password manager, also stored on a removable encrypted volume. Consider using a systems that forgets everything when you dismount from the hsot machine, such as Talis.
You are relatively safe with 1) a fresh private mailbox in a legit corp name (legit sounding) 2) perfect packaging, and I mean 100% perfect....no exceptions, flat inconspicuous, printed B2B looking 1st class mail, then you may have success. I am still not doing any overseas orders since my love letter, just too much down side. I may someday however.