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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Truth on May 03, 2012, 01:31 am
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I will talk a bit about Team Noriega, and why some of you say he is scam.
First Noriega is not 1 person, it isn't 1 office, it is part of a large syndicate based in Netherlands. They already have several accounts in SR running by different people.
Now why are some of its orders so FUCKED UP? The reason is because different people of Team Noriega respond to messages at different times and there is no consistency. The people who access the PM, view the orders, mark the orders and ship the orders, are all DIFFERENT. And they dispatch the orders FAR from the computers accessing SR.
Other than that they entertain real life sales and online sales. Some of them are junkies and are too fucked up to give a shit about your orders. The person responding your PM does not even know about the shipping status. And are all lies. They contact the warehouse via phone call after you customers complain. And they don't update you in PM.
These are the reasons why orders went wrong, and orders do not arrive. Are they scam? Shit no, Noriega is real as they trade by the kilos in real life. It's just that the real Noriega doesn't like to use Tor and internet and employs some fucked up junkies to do your 'mini' SR orders.
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So they just suddenly stopped caring about keeping a good reputation on SR? As I understand it, not many people had problems with Noriega until as of late. Your explanation doesn't really account for the timing of everything.
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No, they are handling more and more transactions, adding to that they also handles interest in real life trades. Customers speak for itself, more orders are getting wrong and orders aren't ship out. My purpose is to tell you they are legit, but their system is quite fucked up. So they are not intentionally scam.
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Hahhhh,
So what you say, that Noriega is not guilty?
And my 15g of C are in the nose of junkies..... >:(
WTF???!!!
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Hahhhh,
So what you say, that Noriega is not guilty?
And my 15g of C are in the nose of junkies..... >:(
WTF???!!!
wow I can almost hear you hyperventilating. chill. I think this is a reasonable explanation and if it is true you will eventually get your order (perhaps still some junkie-snot on it though)
fact is:
1. some people have received their 4/20 order (yesterday the noriega account got a new positive review and some people in the forums claimed to have received). The fact that some people in the forums are creating new threads all the time and venting their frustration does not mean the majority received nothing yet.
2. Noriega replied to a forum thread yesterday saying basically "just chill". They/He also replied to some PMs as of late.
3. He changed the shipping conditions to "no usa" and updated the profile page after 4-20?
These things are simply inconsistent with scamming. Why even bother replying to anybody? Why not take the money and go? The best explanation is really that he just had like 5000 orders on 4-20 and the logistics just could not handle this. I have not seen the vendor interface of SR but I cannot imagine that it has some sophisticated options to handle and organize thousands of orders let alone map the pms to the respective orders.
So it's all a big chaos and in the middle of that some 50 people feel scammed and write a PM everyday,
Probably not possible to reply to these all.
Don't get me wrong I am also waiting for a order from noriega, It sucks. Their reputation will take a hit from this. But whipping yourself in a frenzy in the forums and firing off angry pm's every hour is unlikely to accomplish anything. You'll just make it harder for them to clean up their mess and it will take even longer.
Additionally, this is not only about some orders this is about SR as a whole. There are already new buyers asking in the security forums if you can even order anything without being scammed. A new tony-thread is popping up every hour and they are getting more and more retarded. This annoying "eeeeeee" character is spewing his doomsday conspiracy crap in literally every thread.
This fear-mongering and over-the-top doom-saying is very damaging in my opinion. Divide&conquer
Wait some more. Try to resolve. If nothing comes of it give a 1/5 rating and write an extensive and factual review in the forums. In my opinion that's the way to handle this.
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Noriega got banned. Problem solved?
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after 4/20 he even said no new orders will be shipped for a week and pretty much doubled prices therefore pricing himself out of new orders ,would a scammer do this ,i dont think hes banned coz hes sending messages maybe has to make things right before he can put new listings up
when i asked him why he doubled prices after 4/20 he said to stop the insane rush on his shit
how come no one ever mentiones the fact he doubled prices the last thing a scammer would do ,its as if people didnt even notice ,u still had people buying his stuff in 5gs even with price increase and him saying new orders wont be sent
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I don't think Noriega is a scammer either, just careless, disorganised and if "Truth" is right then he should be getting more clued up ppl to sort the orders out on here. Whether he can do right by those that have lost out is another thing entirely.
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This.......First Noriega is not 1 person, it isn't 1 office, it is part of a large syndicate based in Netherlands.....that's all i need to know. No thanks!
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i thought most of that was obvious seen as 1 person couldnt do that many orders and the fact they got aa who is linked and does the pills ,speed etc side of things
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Seems like TN need to "tweak up" the way the inner-workings are are being handled.
leading to about %10 of orders "falling through the cracks"
going by what the OP said,seems like SR listing to them are pretty low on their priority list,kinda like a "eh half fuck it just a way for a little extra cash,when we have a lot of other things to do IRL. They need to revamp the way people take and process the orders to ensure no order is "mixed/forgotten about"
So hypothetically if i were TN and i get a complaint about a order not showing then obviously it was on his(teams) part knowing that with the amounts they are trying to process(and different people doing different things.) that some orders will be lost and should in turn send a "reship" wouldn't really be a reship,but the actual first ship. that's just my opinion.
I dont think %10 are getting selectively scammed, just %10 get lost on the ordering/packing/sending part.
NOTE:
-This is %100 un-bias opinion from a general point of view. I Have not ordered from TN and have no personal experience with their services.
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Hey team Noriega if you need an hand on working on orders i'll be happy to work for you!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Update: Noriega has turned from selective scam to full scam now. They are in some real life debt and have to cut and scam orders of customers. They used the excuse of custom seizures and others to scam some more bucks for themselves. Before this they also intentionally withheld packages till you persistently inquire about your orders. I feel sorry for Noriega.
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Ignore 1st post. Noriega has turned scam.
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Update: Noriega has turned from selective scam to full scam now. They are in some real life debt and have to cut and scam orders of customers. They used the excuse of custom seizures and others to scam some more bucks for themselves. Before this they also intentionally withheld packages till you persistently inquire about your orders. I feel sorry for Noriega.
Truth - if you don't mind me asking but is this post 100% verified or just speculation because of the AA connection - do you have some inside info the rest of us don't know about? There are still some posts appearing about orders being delivered this week but as you say, they are not always complete.
Thanks
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SR removed Noriega's vendor account because there were complaints of scam from customers. And SR has been monitoring Noriega's account as well, and finding it to be suspicious and inconsistent.
I'd say even if people are receiving orders, they are still selective in scamming. However, circumstances change, they might change their mind and ship out orders if they want to also.
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At some times when Noriega mark your orders in transit and you finalized. They are 'forgotten' and not even shipped. And piece of shit still doesn't want to work in Escrow, asking to finalize early, couldn't even catch up with the orders, and lying to you about orders 'already shipped' where they are not.
And the only time they ship it is if you persistently inquire them to ship it or lodge a formal complaint to the admin. Then they wake the fuck up but not to the pretense of already losing their $150 vendor's account.
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Update: Noriega has turned from selective scam to full scam now. They are in some real life debt and have to cut and scam orders of customers. They used the excuse of custom seizures and others to scam some more bucks for themselves. Before this they also intentionally withheld packages till you persistently inquire about your orders. I feel sorry for Noriega.
Truth - if you don't mind me asking but is this post 100% verified or just speculation because of the AA connection - do you have some inside info the rest of us don't know about? There are still some posts appearing about orders being delivered this week but as you say, they are not always complete.
Thanks
THe part where on AAkovens seller account it says "IF you want coke.. go to Noreiga they sort that",, and the fact that AA and Noreiga talk and type exactly the same..... most of these Vendor accounts from the NL are the same, a group of people....thats why the smaller people who are using just 1 person can handle anything, AA sends out post 3 times a day, responds almost straight away etc,, its not 1 person its not hard to find out and im sure if you asked he would tell you that...