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Market => Product requests => Topic started by: MySecretAccount on May 16, 2012, 07:06 am
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EDITED FOR BAD LATE NIGHT MATH
Given how popular Norcos/Addys are (and how fucking overpriced), I'm sitting on two months rent and change every time I fill either script. I don't want to open a vendor account really, but if there was demand for somebody who'd be willing to pay say half of what's "retail" ($7 for norcs, $15 for 30mg adderal), I'd MUCH rather just do one offs when I get them. I don't want to heat seal 3 adderal or 2 norcos and send 50 packages a month.
Is there anybody in the market for this? I have 130 now Norcos now, would let it go for $900, $1000 most no problem. I'd let the 30mg adderal go for $1100, maybe $900 too...maybe $2k for both. That seems crazy to me, but 30mg x 60 is worth like 2k on here.....it's ridiculous.
I'd only want to do it safe, once a month, and VERY carefully, but - I figure somebody here has the time that I don't.
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Given how popular Norcos/Addys are (and how fucking overpriced), I'm sitting on two months rent and change every time I fill either script. I don't want to open a vendor account really, but if there was demand for somebody who'd be willing to pay say half of what's "retail" ($7 for norcs, $15 for 30mg adderal), I'd MUCH rather just do one offs when I get them. I don't want to heat seal 3 adderal or 2 norcos and send 50 packages a month.
Is there anybody in the market for this? I have 130 now Norcos now, would let it go for $900 no problem. I'd let the 30mg adderal go for $900 too...maybe $2k for both. That seems crazy to me, but 30mg x 60 is worth like 9k on here.....it's ridiculous, and I don't have the time?
I'd only want to do it safe, once a month, and VERY carefully, but - I figure somebody here has the time that I don't.
I should not even respond.. But I can't help myself.
Your math is horrible. You must be high writing this.
First you offer $900 for each. That equals $1800
Then you say you would take $2000 for both??? :-\
Then you say "30mg x 60 is worth like 9k on here" Please tell me how you got to that figure? PLEASE!!!! :o
You also have no clue what it takes to ship. You wouldn't need to send 50 packages a month. No one on here that is legit would buy from someone without a vendor account.PERIOD.
It would cost you $150 to open a vendor account. If you did, the way you sound, you would mess it all up and you would have no idea what to charge. On top of that you would be like all the rest and with your little supply of pills you would sell for the same price the other guys on here do that have that little amount of pills.
There is not a problem doing that. There is a market. If there was not then none of those guys would be in business. People complain about prices all the time. it is usually the person with no product.
Thanks for reading!
RxKing :D
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You're right....I really fucked up my math on the 60x30 Adderal, and in general. Let me try again, now that I've had coffee.
I was basically saying that I would open a vendor account, but only if somebody had interest in buying these pills at half of SR price ($6-7 per norco, $15 per 30mg adderal), but only the whole lot, or MAYBE 50% of each batch. $2k is generous for 130 norcos and 60 30mg, so while I said $900 each, I was musing that $2k for both would still be a ridiculous deal.
You also have no clue what it takes to ship. You wouldn't need to send 50 packages a month. No one on here that is legit would buy from someone without a vendor account.PERIOD.
It would cost you $150 to open a vendor account. If you did, the way you sound, you would mess it all up and you would have no idea what to charge. On top of that you would be like all the rest and with your little supply of pills you would sell for the same price the other guys on here do that have that little amount of pills.
You're sort of right here. I've sent packages and done this offline a few times, so I'm not an idiot. However, with Opiates and Amphetamine, I'd be dealing with lots of junkies/addicts, and I see all of the "big" vendors selling in quantities of 1, 5, 10....that to me is far too much hassle. Also, I would know what to charge - a flat rate for the whole amount. That amount would be average market value -40-50%. One buyer, one sale per batch.
But you were right -my math was fucked, and late night posting is never good for me. My Xanax was kicking in, as it's the one script I do take at night-night time.
So, let me rephrase - if I started a Vendor account, put up the pills only in lots (either all 75 and 30, or 75 and 30, at 50% off the current SR value) - would anybody want to buy that?
Thanks for the correction RxKing - sloppy math made me look like an idiot.
I want somebody who has the time to make the $1k or more a month I can't because of time/laziness. I get these monthly, and would love to pay rent for 3-4 months after two listings per month.
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I wasn't trying to make you feel like an idiot. I am glad you "got it" and posted that response.
As for your new post I have this to say.....
I, as a vendor list pills by the single because my customers want to buy as many pills as they have BTC.. I would say the average order is over 20 pills at a time. Yes, in the beginning I got a lot of 1 and 2 pill orders. But by a lot I mean 10 out of 105. That was just people wanting to try me out as a new vendor for the most part as I did not offer samples. Yes there are some guys that only buy 1 or 2 but since my first 3 days there have been about 3.
If I was just to list 10 packs and 20 packs I would have 20 messages a day asking me " can I get 26" "can I get 16". So I don't list singles because I sell "singles". I list that so they can get any number they want. But I also want to give anyone a shot at a pill. If they order 2 and they pay there shipping... why would I not want to ship? Maybe that is all they can afford.. Again I know how to package and ship. I know what I am doing. So there is no difference to me if the package I ship has 2 or 90 in it. Like I already said.... maybe 1 or 2 people order less then 5.... And I could.... as could you if you get a vendor account ....choose to have a minimum, but to say that will eliminate "junkies" is just not true.
And for the customers I have dealt with(over 100 in 20 days) not one acted like a junkie :D And yes I understand what you meant by "junkie"... I just wanted you to KNOW what is the actual truth from a vendor. Not a guess.
In fact I would say maybe the bigger junkie is the guy who buys 40. Then 2 days later 26. Then 3 days later 49. Wouldn't you? So I like "junkies" ;D
You as a vendor can choose not to list pills in singles. But I promise by listing in singles you are not saying I will sell you 1 pill..... you are saying buy whatever you want. And trust me you are going to need that at first. Then again you might get around that buy selling for a good deal and only offering what you said.
The real problem with your math is I think you based your "half" off on vendor VICODINS prices. Not to pick on VIC as there are other vendors that have his prices too but the prices you are offering are not exactly the greatest prices or 50% off of the average SR price.
Also realize that the buyer make the price. Vic only has that price because his buyers pay that. There is zero wrong if people want to pay that ???
You came in here asking if there would be someone willing to buy "half" at least or all of your pills in one order...... of course there will be people. But you probably won't get a true answer in here the way you asked.
So many post are made in here telling everyone what they have and their great prices. Of course they never have a vendor account. They know ZERO about selling pills. And I have not seen 1 person actually say what you are saying... then get a vendor account and sell what they said for the price they are saying(wow that was bad grammar ). You could be the first I see :)
You would be way better off just getting a vendor account. Then coming in here as a new vendor and telling people you have the pills you do and that you want to sell in 2 lots. YOU WILL 100% sell them. You should know that.
I can say that even if someone in here tells you yes they would buy this... that does not mean they will. And if you got no one saying they will... does not mean you won't sell them.
You will 100% sell them in 2 lots or 1.
I was only making a comment about $900+$900= $1800 and you said $2000 would be a good deal for both. What you should say..... is that you would take $900 for half or $1600(or whatever just LOWER then $1800) if someone was willing to take all of it. That would make business sense.
The problem you are going to run into is that no one is going to want to trust you. And you will have to make a good deal to entice a customer to buy your pills all at once. I suggest if you do it ...to no longer use this name. If people see your post's... even though you had no coffee ;)... They will believe you are the junkie and would probably believe that you would never send and if you did there is no way the count is right;)
I am not trying to talk shit. I am just saying that you as a vendor can not make post with so many errors. It's not like there was a simple math equation off. Your post actually made zero sense. I think you did better in your follow up and I hope you get a vendor account and do as you say you would do. But in my little time on here... I believe that will never happen. Again I wish you luck! I think you really need it.
RxKIng
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I don't buy the overpriced Adderall on here, only the realistically priced stuff (which is still priced)
I'd buy 30mg Adderall for 10ish bucks a pill, depending if XR/IR whatever.
Anyways that's just my opinion, just put up relatively big lots for em - if you do them cheap enough you'll probably get vendors who will pickup your supply and resell them.
-NASA
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Lots of stuff, thanks
RxKIng
I get what you're saying, and I'm not trying to avoid using the name Hydrocodone 10/325apap or Generic Amphetamine Salts. Let's dumb it down a bit.
1. I pay a total of $300 for 150 10/325 and 60 adderal 30mg. That's my net cost to buy them. So, if the average cost for a (INSERT 10MG HYDROCODONE PILL NAME HERE) is $10, 12, 8......I'm making quick a fucking bit. The Adderal is 2-3x that, if not more.
2. I don't want to be a vendor sending out more than 1 package for each lot of pills. If the average going rate for 10 Yellow Norcos is $100, and I say $60, that's a good deal. If Adderal is $30, and I say $10, fine (I'm still tripling my money). My cost is is about $1 for Adderal, and $2 for Norco. You're underestimating that even at "below average" prices I'm making a significant net profit
3. It DOES matter how many packages and shit I send out - the more I send out, the bigger the risk, and the bigger the risk, the less interested I am. I could sell at the same prices everyone else has, but - I'm not looking to do that.
4. So, if your advice is "no, nobody would be interested in buying 130 norcos, or 60 30mg adderal for prices that are 3-4x my cost" - so be it.
So if I say 130 Norco for $650 - that's not "below SR average?" "60 30mg Adderal - $900" - that's not below cost?
I'd get a vendor account to do it, but if you're telling me that the average price on Norco's is $5-7, and Adderal 30mg at $10-15 isn't "cheap," you ought to take a stroll through the listings.
Anyway - I'll just find somebody who will buy them at $7 each and that's that. Advice was helpful, and when somebody wants them (if), I'll do a stealth listing and let them deal with all the packages and customers and other SR social engineering.
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I would say get a vendor account and get them up. There is a market for them if you can stay within Escrow, i'm sure you'd find buyers.
You can make whatever size listing you want, If you don't feel comfortable making several small sales, then make a listing for what you would like to ship.
If you check the shipping/security section of this forum you will see some good ideas of how to package/ship the items. I would even go so far as to say just sell them locally (within your country) and use tracking, then you would know if got to the right address. (reduce scam potential)
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Yeah....I've seen how the vendors operate - I really just don't have time to be a full time vendor - I only want to have an account if there is a market for "all of them at once."
It sounds like there isn't, at least now now. A 130 Norcos for $700 listing would sit up (as a new vendor) forever. Same applies to a $900 listing for 30mg Adderal.
So - not worth it.