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Title: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: bootl3gg3r on June 18, 2012, 04:10 am
Hello all, just wanted to drop by and let everyone know that

TONY76= OPI


DON'T GET SUCKERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


bootl3gg3r
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: phubaiblues on June 18, 2012, 04:54 am
I don't think so.  I mean, I know why you think that, geographically it's possible...but opi never asked me to go out of escrow, none of that, always delivered...good egg, actually.  Good dope, too...
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: Kappacino on June 18, 2012, 05:24 am
Heroin pebbles + sheets of acid  + Canada is the only evidence at least from what I can tell.

Opis name was mentioned from the start as soon as tony fucked off. But as far as I know no new evidence has come to light. Please share.
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: phubaiblues on June 18, 2012, 05:55 am
Heroin pebbles + sheets of acid  + Canada is the only evidence at least from what I can tell.

Opis name was mentioned from the start as soon as tony fucked off. But as far as I know no new evidence has come to light. Please share.

And when you get right down to it: does it really matter?  Who is who, I mean?  I don't really care: I send btc, I get my dope...all that other shit is so 'last month' as to be almost boring.  Opi's never asked me to finalize early, tho, weirdly enough, I usually do anyway.  I've never had a complaint.  Today he's a good guy, tomorrow, yesterday, who knows....
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: opi on June 18, 2012, 06:33 am
Wow, not this bullshit again......

Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: phubaiblues on June 18, 2012, 07:15 am
Wow, not this bullshit again......

Pay it no mind, it's just someting to yap about while we're nodding out.  Has no meaning...
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: Kappacino on June 18, 2012, 10:27 am
Heroin pebbles + sheets of acid  + Canada is the only evidence at least from what I can tell.

Opis name was mentioned from the start as soon as tony fucked off. But as far as I know no new evidence has come to light. Please share.

And when you get right down to it: does it really matter?  Who is who, I mean?  I don't really care: I send btc, I get my dope...all that other shit is so 'last month' as to be almost boring.  Opi's never asked me to finalize early, tho, weirdly enough, I usually do anyway.  I've never had a complaint.  Today he's a good guy, tomorrow, yesterday, who knows....

Course it matters. You send btc, get your dope

You send btc, dont get your dope = problem

Not saying he is tony, I was just asking for evidence.
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: mito on June 18, 2012, 12:25 pm
tony76, we forgive you.

you may come back.
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: scrappy on June 18, 2012, 02:53 pm
Tony76 has probably overdosed or been in a fatal car wreck by now. Karma is instant on that level trust me.

Just because opi is hooked into the same canadian bikie supply line means only that.

But I wont complain about guys having stupid theories if it means theres more acid for me.

 ;)
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: Raoul Duke on June 18, 2012, 03:02 pm
it would be a pretty clever scam if he is/was - they were having a bit of a barney in the H vendors thread
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: phubaiblues on June 19, 2012, 04:23 am

Course it matters. You send btc, get your dope

You send btc, dont get your dope = problem

Not saying he is tony, I was just asking for evidence.

Once someone takes on an 'identity' on here, it doesn't matter: all that matters is what they do.  Opi has always delivered to me, and it's the best dope I've had since nucleo went underground.  And whether or not he was somebody else previously *doesn't* matter, to me.  It's not the *person* who rips us off, it's our stupid willingness to not play by the rules that gets us in trouble.  We put Tony on a pedestal, and people would get downright *angry* if anybody questioned this reverence of someone who is just a vendor, not a god.  Just about everybody was finalizing early, and a ton of us even went offsite to a special 'Tony' site, where we had no protection at all: that's why we got ripped. 

Sometimes I see similar attitudes towards Opi, and that worries me, but other than that, no worries...Opi himself doesn't seem to give a shit, and that is reassuring... :)

Who cares who the guy is, or who he was last month.  I don't.  If my shit shows up, and I don't compromise a bunch of my money in some stupid confidence scheme, then all is well.  But do I wonder sometimes?   Sure, but I don't care...I just learn from my mistakes and try to move on...we *never* know who anybody is on here....all we know is what we do ourselves. 

If I saw a scheme being set up for a rip, I'd say something, but if anything, opi has cut back on customers, not shipping H to US lately is one thing...so again, to me it doesn't matter. 
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: chiefrogan on June 19, 2012, 04:36 am
phub why are you FEing??

you say yourself there is no guarantee who he is tomorrow, and you tell everyone the only way we can get scammed is if we FE and hold vendors up on pedastools. yet you do it yourself for opi... headscratcher

full disclosure: i dislike opi
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: poolsclosed on June 19, 2012, 04:41 am
Back when OPI first started selling molly he sent me a sample. It wasn't molly, it was some weird orange stuff and I didn't roll on it at all. I was frankly quite upset and OPI offered me a full refund and apologized profusely. I appreciated his efforts to fix up the mess. Thought I'd throw that in there.
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: fsgr on June 19, 2012, 05:21 am
Tony76 wasnt a person, it was a well known Canadian bikie gang.
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: phubaiblues on June 19, 2012, 05:22 am
phub why are you FEing??

you say yourself there is no guarantee who he is tomorrow, and you tell everyone the only way we can get scammed is if we FE and hold vendors up on pedastools. yet you do it yourself for opi... headscratcher

full disclosure: i dislike opi

That's the best question that has been asked me, and the simple fact that I"m kind of uncomfortable with it speaks volumes.  I don't know why I sometimes have finalized early for him.  I think it's mostly because when it comes to overseas orders--anything out of usa--I know I"m not going to fight it if it doesn't show, anyway, so why not FE.

MY personal belief is that I dislike vendors who *ask* me to finalize early, and he never has.  I had my first package I ordered from him, not show, but I never did a thing, because the circumstances were weird: I was trying out a new theory, and used a different order name...it proved theory, but I lost the dope...wasn't opi's fault, so I wasn't going to put it on him...

And back when this site was just getting going, and vendors were getting some bad buyers, I got in the habit of finalizing early for trusted vendors, just to help them out, let them get their money...this was before they even considered asking people to do it: escrow used to be universal.

Last couple order I didn't FE....but I take seriously my vow to always finalize within an hour of receiving package, and always do that.

So I don't know, I mean, I still reserve the right to FE if I want to, but it's on me if I do.  Opi's never been a 'buddy' to me, but he's always delivered, and his grams besides being really good, have also never once seemed 'light' like some of the others do...but in any case, he's not shipping to US lately, so it's all just 'theory' anyway.

But good question, and my answer is a longwinded 'I don't know' answer. :)



I already
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: phubaiblues on June 19, 2012, 07:15 am
nothing against this vendor at all.. but i wouldnt FE with him.

looking at his stats he has 4 people just on the fist page who hasnt received their package.. of course this may not have anything to do with the vendor, but I would definetly be think twice before FE.

Sure.  I saw that.  Everybody should definitely make their own call on this.  He's always treated me right, so I act on that basis...but also, I don't FE, he never asks, sometimes I have, doesn't affect anything.
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: opi on June 19, 2012, 09:18 pm
nothing against this vendor at all.. but i wouldnt FE with him.

looking at his stats he has 4 people just on the fist page who hasnt received their package.. of course this may not have anything to do with the vendor, but I would definetly be think twice before FE.

That was the reason why I have stopped sending to US due to interception, and those orders were sent out almost 3 weeks ago.
I had stopped shipping out orders to US almost 3 weeks now, and won't start until I come up with better packaging technqiues
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: phubaiblues on June 19, 2012, 09:31 pm
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That was the reason why I have stopped sending to US due to interception, and those orders were sent out almost 3 weeks ago.
I had stopped shipping out orders to US almost 3 weeks now, and won't start until I come up with better packaging technqiues
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I thought that packaging was excellent...I can't say more, but it was best I've seen, and novel idea.  I'd be thinking it was something else: always got thru fine to me.
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: thor on June 19, 2012, 10:02 pm
If OPI is tony he wont bother with small amounts. He will build up his rep like he did with his other account and cash out when's the right time.
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: phubaiblues on June 19, 2012, 11:16 pm
If OPI is tony he wont bother with small amounts. He will build up his rep like he did with his other account and cash out when's the right time.

If you read Tony76's thread, you'll see that his whole move was aimed at getting people out of escrow by claiming he was being hounded/hassled by ripoff buyers.  So everybody went out of escrow and then he started an outside trading site....and finished off whoever was left.

Other than having really good shit, Opi has done none of this.   I"m glad everybody is being wary now, but we also want to be fair, and unless vendor finds way to get us all trading out of escrow or offsite, there is no big ripoff.
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: jurdermunkie on June 20, 2012, 03:36 am
I am new to the site but before I joined I watched the whole tony thing happen. Phub seems to me you have completely convinced yourself that because it doesn't seem the same it must not be. People wonder why the same ole scams work over and over no matter what it is. Quite simply because people want to believe something is good and will die defending it.  This is drugs! Trust nobody! Get your shit say thanks and move on.  Everybody IRL been ripped i'm pretty sure. I don't know Opi and have nothing bad to say bout him. But i'm not gonna say don't FE and turnaround and do it with some uh uh reason. Lets all the newer SR folks think well maybe we have to then if this guy does it and he been here awhile. I dunno just my initial thoughts when i read this thread is all.
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: phubaiblues on June 22, 2012, 01:47 am
I am new to the site but before I joined I watched the whole tony thing happen. Phub seems to me you have completely convinced yourself that because it doesn't seem the same it must not be. People wonder why the same ole scams work over and over no matter what it is. Quite simply because people want to believe something is good and will die defending it.  This is drugs! Trust nobody! Get your shit say thanks and move on.  Everybody IRL been ripped i'm pretty sure. I don't know Opi and have nothing bad to say bout him. But i'm not gonna say don't FE and turnaround and do it with some uh uh reason. Lets all the newer SR folks think well maybe we have to then if this guy does it and he been here awhile. I dunno just my initial thoughts when i read this thread is all.

What are you talking about?  I've never told anybody to finalize early: read my sig.  I always suggest to new people that they stick to pharmaceuticals until they build up their rep as they can buy smaller quantities, or certainly read the heroin forum--main one--so they can see who delivers.  I simply tell the truth, and Opi has always delivered to me, and is one of the top quality providers.  I don't believe in attempts to ruin somebody's reputation, however, without any evidence at all...I work within Silk Road's system, and I don't have any problems...if I *do* choose to finalize early, that is simply because in the old days--before they asked you to do it--it was simply a way we dealt with dealers we trusted, and we eat the loss if something goes wrong--as I do whenever I deal with vendors from another country.

But I was also one of the first people to see that Tony76 was going down the same road most ripoffs go down, which is starting by claiming people are trying to rip him off, followed by requests, then demands, that people finalize early.   I think you might be reading something into my posts that isn't there.  This thread had a very unfortunate title.  We don't need to be doing that without some kind of proof.  The whole aim--well my whole aim, anyway--is to be fair.  Not to be paranoid, not to be meanspirited, and not to be a chump, either.  It's worked good for about a year, taken a few lumps, however, along the way, but I try to help people and not let my 'feelings' or 'hunches' override commonsense and fair play.
Title: Re: OPI =TONY76 DON'T GET SUCKERED
Post by: chiefrogan on June 22, 2012, 10:19 pm
i highly highly doubt opi is tony or one of his minions, even though i dont like the guy (both of them) i will give him thag

i do lile phub, great asset to forums especially H thread and thanks for your response about FE. obviously you are free to do what you want, but might i suggest you keep your friendly FE to yourself (and the vendor) so that newer people dont get the wrong idea, or it becomes more and more commonplace.

lastly, like i said above i do lile you and appreciate you here, so dont take this the wrong way.... but you are obsessed with tony and the huge scam. like you keep revisiting it to analyze and make sure it never happens again but its giving you PTSD or something. just forget it, forgive it if you can, the buddha way. and learn the lesson. preaching the lesson is fine but saying you do FE was a bit of a headscratcher. now you say you were one of first to see tony was gonna do a rip off scam? come on man no one saw that coming. he had been complaining and requiring FE for months and always for the sales that worked out fine. he played us all like a fiddle and you cant claim you knew it was gonna happen then at 4/20 sale.

anyway, live and learn. never fucking FE anybody!!!! and escrow can protect you

i recently got back 50% refund caus my vendor blatantly lied about express shipping times and wanted me to FE. well i won