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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: 88fxstc on September 13, 2013, 02:12 am
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I'll probably sound like an out of touch old dude, but this is a serious Q, what is methylone??? I started dabbling in drugs back in the early 80's, and I pretty quickly decided what I liked and stuck with my favorites. So, my extracurricular activities have sort of gone up and down over the years, but , I always stuck with the golden oldies. Weed, Coke, opiates , here n there benzos. Now days theres all kinds of what to me are new drugs, methylone like I state in the thread title, but all kinds of stuff with just numbers and letters in their names. Hell, I've never tried XTC, or MDMA, they are the same thing right?? I'm pretty sure that shit was legal when I was doing my experimenting back in the day.
So, compare methylone , or any of these new fangled drugs, to something I would understand. Is it like Coke? is it a tripping kind o drug like acid or mesc? The pictures of it look kinda cool and crystally. Is it that bath salt stuff that was all up in the news a while back? Has anyone here eaten some homeless dudes face off while on methylone???? I'm just curious bout all these new, new to me anyway, drugs.
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I'll probably sound like an out of touch old dude, but this is a serious Q, what is methylone??? I started dabbling in drugs back in the early 80's, and I pretty quickly decided what I liked and stuck with my favorites. So, my extracurricular activities have sort of gone up and down over the years, but , I always stuck with the golden oldies. Weed, Coke, opiates , here n there benzos. Now days theres all kinds of what to me are new drugs, methylone like I state in the thread title, but all kinds of stuff with just numbers and letters in their names. Hell, I've never tried XTC, or MDMA, they are the same thing right?? I'm pretty sure that shit was legal when I was doing my experimenting back in the day.
So, compare methylone , or any of these new fangled drugs, to something I would understand. Is it like Coke? is it a tripping kind o drug like acid or mesc? The pictures of it look kinda cool and crystally. Is it that bath salt stuff that was all up in the news a while back? Has anyone here eaten some homeless dudes face off while on methylone???? I'm just curious bout all these new, new to me anyway, drugs.
Sounds like we're about the same age. Nice to know there are more old folks on here.
Methylone (bk-MDMA) is very similar to MDMA (aka XTC). I personally like MDMA more. I think most do. Methylone just seems like an inferior substitute, but I know some people prefer it. Since you haven't tried MDMA yet (how's that possible?), I guess I would compare it to very slightly psychedelic, longer lasting cocaine, without the push or ego boost of blow. It's definitely euphoric though but with more of an empathic and mellow vibe. Chemically its closer to mescaline, but I find mescaline a lot trippier.
I'd recommend giving it a try, but suggest you try MDMA first.
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I'll probably sound like an out of touch old dude, but this is a serious Q, what is methylone??? I started dabbling in drugs back in the early 80's, and I pretty quickly decided what I liked and stuck with my favorites. So, my extracurricular activities have sort of gone up and down over the years, but , I always stuck with the golden oldies. Weed, Coke, opiates , here n there benzos. Now days theres all kinds of what to me are new drugs, methylone like I state in the thread title, but all kinds of stuff with just numbers and letters in their names. Hell, I've never tried XTC, or MDMA, they are the same thing right?? I'm pretty sure that shit was legal when I was doing my experimenting back in the day.
So, compare methylone , or any of these new fangled drugs, to something I would understand. Is it like Coke? is it a tripping kind o drug like acid or mesc? The pictures of it look kinda cool and crystally. Is it that bath salt stuff that was all up in the news a while back? Has anyone here eaten some homeless dudes face off while on methylone???? I'm just curious bout all these new, new to me anyway, drugs.
Sounds like we're about the same age. Nice to know there are more old folks on here.
Methylone (bk-MDMA) is very similar to MDMA (aka XTC). I personally like MDMA more. I think most do. Methylone just seems like an inferior substitute, but I know some people prefer it. Since you haven't tried MDMA yet (how's that possible?), I guess I would compare it to very slightly psychedelic, longer lasting cocaine, without the push or ego boost of blow. It's definitely euphoric though but with more of an empathic and mellow vibe. Chemically its closer to mescaline, but I find mescaline a lot trippier.
I'd recommend giving it a try, but suggest you try MDMA first.
Ya, there's plenty of u semi older guys still partying. Your not the 1st to be like "wow, you've never done X?" I've never done meth either, but I never really got into speed when I tried it so meth had no draw for me . Like I said, I settled on what I consider my golden oldies and haven't tried anything new for years. The last time I tried something I'd never had was opium about 6 months ago, and that wasn't really "new" because I've always liked opiates, just never tried opium until i discovered the Road about 6-8 months ago and got access to pretty much anything I wanted.
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I'll probably sound like an out of touch old dude, but this is a serious Q, what is methylone??? I started dabbling in drugs back in the early 80's, and I pretty quickly decided what I liked and stuck with my favorites. So, my extracurricular activities have sort of gone up and down over the years, but , I always stuck with the golden oldies. Weed, Coke, opiates , here n there benzos. Now days theres all kinds of what to me are new drugs, methylone like I state in the thread title, but all kinds of stuff with just numbers and letters in their names. Hell, I've never tried XTC, or MDMA, they are the same thing right?? I'm pretty sure that shit was legal when I was doing my experimenting back in the day.
So, compare methylone , or any of these new fangled drugs, to something I would understand. Is it like Coke? is it a tripping kind o drug like acid or mesc? The pictures of it look kinda cool and crystally. Is it that bath salt stuff that was all up in the news a while back? Has anyone here eaten some homeless dudes face off while on methylone???? I'm just curious bout all these new, new to me anyway, drugs.
Sounds like we're about the same age. Nice to know there are more old folks on here.
Methylone (bk-MDMA) is very similar to MDMA (aka XTC). I personally like MDMA more. I think most do. Methylone just seems like an inferior substitute, but I know some people prefer it. Since you haven't tried MDMA yet (how's that possible?), I guess I would compare it to very slightly psychedelic, longer lasting cocaine, without the push or ego boost of blow. It's definitely euphoric though but with more of an empathic and mellow vibe. Chemically its closer to mescaline, but I find mescaline a lot trippier.
I'd recommend giving it a try, but suggest you try MDMA first.
Great post wolf2olf, you definitely describe Methylone well, and I'll add my 2BTC:
Methylone is part of a family of stimulant drugs called cathinones. An example of a naturally occuring cathinone containing plant, popular in some part of the world, is called "Khat." It's a leaf that is chewed to produce a euphoric, stimulating effect. Methylone produces a similar effect.
Methylone is one of the chemicals that was sold under the monicker "bath salts," yes. Mepehedrone, MDPV, and a few others were also sold as bath salts and those chemicals can also produce stimulating highs. But keep in mind that many of the stories you've heard about people doing crazy things on bath salt are really just sensationalist stories. The story you are refering to, I think, where a man in FLorida was found eating another man's face was suspected to have been on bath salts. However, the toxicology reports show that only pot was in his system, not bath salts. However, most people go along beleiving the guy was on bath salts without ever following up on the story which has been reported on many times to show that no bath salts were actually found. This is not to say that bath salt have not caused abnormal behavior or health issues for some people, because they have, but some of those stories are for scare-mongering imo.
Now, the effects of methylone I think are a cross between cocaine/MDMA, which I hate to describe as such because it is definitely a unique effect, but to put in as close a context as possible for you to understand the effects, that's what I'll say. As wolf2wolf says, it has a similar euphoria to cocaine, but with a much greater amount of empathy and little to no ego inflation. Some of the most memorable connections I've made with people have been on Methylone. I would say those connections even surpassed the connections I've had on MDMA, which is said to be one of the most empathogenic drugs known. Since you've tried cocaine, you can grasp part of what the high is like.
When I used to take methylone, I would take a dose orally, wait about 30 minutes or so, then I would insufflate a line of half the amount of my oral dose. Even insufflated, Methylone takes a few minutes to kick in. When done in the way I did it, my oral dose and insufflated dose would kick in at almost the exact same time for a huge rush of euphoria that lasted longer than an insufflated dose alone would last. The main effects from this would last around 1.5-2 hours upon which time a single line would bring the high back up for about 30 minutes. I would sometimes do several lines in a night. Done in this way, it started to become unhealthy and I would feel very anxious the next day. I should also note that the quality of what I had was probably not nearly as good as what the rocks I've seen in pictures on SR are.
My use was moderate to heavy (about 5 nights a month) for about 3 months or so a couple years ago just before the ban.
While some of my experiences were some the most memorable experiences I've ever had, eventually it is very easy to over use especially if you have a large supply. That is the problem with these chemicals that were popular for a few years before they were banned: a) They were cheap and easy to find (since they were sold as bath salts or whatever other moniker at local convenience stores). b) You could do them like cocaine, line after line, and you could do them multiple days in a row. This lead to a lot of scatter brained folk, abnormal behavior, and hospital visits for a few, which eventually lead to their ban. The effects of methylone are definitely unique and while the media attention has given it a bad name, the effects are really quite interesting. It still is a risk because of the potential for habitual use and the unknown, potential harmful side effects, but the effects themselves are enjoyable and when taken responsibly, it doesn't feel nearly as harsh as cocaine or MDMA, imo.
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I'll probably sound like an out of touch old dude, but this is a serious Q, what is methylone??? I started dabbling in drugs back in the early 80's, and I pretty quickly decided what I liked and stuck with my favorites. So, my extracurricular activities have sort of gone up and down over the years, but , I always stuck with the golden oldies. Weed, Coke, opiates , here n there benzos. Now days theres all kinds of what to me are new drugs, methylone like I state in the thread title, but all kinds of stuff with just numbers and letters in their names. Hell, I've never tried XTC, or MDMA, they are the same thing right?? I'm pretty sure that shit was legal when I was doing my experimenting back in the day.
So, compare methylone , or any of these new fangled drugs, to something I would understand. Is it like Coke? is it a tripping kind o drug like acid or mesc? The pictures of it look kinda cool and crystally. Is it that bath salt stuff that was all up in the news a while back? Has anyone here eaten some homeless dudes face off while on methylone???? I'm just curious bout all these new, new to me anyway, drugs.
Sounds like we're about the same age. Nice to know there are more old folks on here.
Methylone (bk-MDMA) is very similar to MDMA (aka XTC). I personally like MDMA more. I think most do. Methylone just seems like an inferior substitute, but I know some people prefer it. Since you haven't tried MDMA yet (how's that possible?), I guess I would compare it to very slightly psychedelic, longer lasting cocaine, without the push or ego boost of blow. It's definitely euphoric though but with more of an empathic and mellow vibe. Chemically its closer to mescaline, but I find mescaline a lot trippier.
I'd recommend giving it a try, but suggest you try MDMA first.
Great post wolf2olf, you definitely describe Methylone well, and I'll add my 2BTC:
Methylone is part of a family of stimulant drugs called cathinones. An example of a naturally occuring cathinone containing plant, popular in some part of the world, is called "Khat." It's a leaf that is chewed to produce a euphoric, stimulating effect. Methylone produces a similar effect.
Methylone is one of the chemicals that was sold under the monicker "bath salts," yes. Mepehedrone, MDPV, and a few others were also sold as bath salts and those chemicals can also produce stimulating highs. But keep in mind that many of the stories you've heard about people doing crazy things on bath salt are really just sensationalist stories. The story you are refering to, I think, where a man in FLorida was found eating another man's face was suspected to have been on bath salts. However, the toxicology reports show that only pot was in his system, not bath salts. However, most people go along beleiving the guy was on bath salts without ever following up on the story which has been reported on many times to show that no bath salts were actually found. This is not to say that bath salt have not caused abnormal behavior or health issues for some people, because they have, but some of those stories are for scare-mongering imo.
Now, the effects of methylone I think are a cross between cocaine/MDMA, which I hate to describe as such because it is definitely a unique effect, but to put in as close a context as possible for you to understand the effects, that's what I'll say. As wolf2wolf says, it has a similar euphoria to cocaine, but with a much greater amount of empathy and little to no ego inflation. Some of the most memorable connections I've made with people have been on Methylone. I would say those connections even surpassed the connections I've had on MDMA, which is said to be one of the most empathogenic drugs known. Since you've tried cocaine, you can grasp part of what the high is like.
When I used to take methylone, I would take a dose orally, wait about 30 minutes or so, then I would insufflate a line of half the amount of my oral dose. Even insufflated, Methylone takes a few minutes to kick in. When done in the way I did it, my oral dose and insufflated dose would kick in at almost the exact same time for a huge rush of euphoria that lasted longer than an insufflated dose alone would last. The main effects from this would last around 1.5-2 hours upon which time a single line would bring the high back up for about 30 minutes. I would sometimes do several lines in a night. Done in this way, it started to become unhealthy and I would feel very anxious the next day. I should also note that the quality of what I had was probably not nearly as good as what the rocks I've seen in pictures on SR are.
My use was moderate to heavy (about 5 nights a month) for about 3 months or so a couple years ago just before the ban.
While some of my experiences were some the most memorable experiences I've ever had, eventually it is very easy to over use especially if you have a large supply. That is the problem with these chemicals that were popular for a few years before they were banned: a) They were cheap and easy to find (since they were sold as bath salts or whatever other moniker at local convenience stores). b) You could do them like cocaine, line after line, and you could do them multiple days in a row. This lead to a lot of scatter brained folk, abnormal behavior, and hospital visits for a few, which eventually lead to their ban. The effects of methylone are definitely unique and while the media attention has given it a bad name, the effects are really quite interesting. It still is a risk because of the potential for habitual use and the unknown, potential harmful side effects, but the effects themselves are enjoyable and when taken responsibly, it doesn't feel nearly as harsh as cocaine or MDMA, imo.
Very good explanation dude, thanks. For the record, I was just fucking around when I asked about the face eating, I know the media and their way of demonizing all drugs. Anyway, thanks for the info.
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No problem! Like wolf2wolf said, if you decide to dabble into one of these newer to you stims, I would go with MDMA first, mostly because of the good track record and because it is fuh-uh-king fantastic, especially the first handful of times.
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It would seem that alot of people enjoy m1 oever 4mmc, i don't see how but that seems to the consensus and im talking pre ban, i guess it's just the person
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I'll probably sound like an out of touch old dude, but this is a serious Q, what is methylone???
For questions like these we suggest you have a look at (CLEARNET WARNING!!) http://www.erowid.org
Regards...
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I'll probably sound like an out of touch old dude, but this is a serious Q, what is methylone???
For questions like these we suggest you have a look at (CLEARNET WARNING!!) http://www.erowid.org
Regards...
I've checked out erowid, they give good generalized descriptions of different substances but nothing can beat the real world descriptions that I can get from the community of good folks in these forums.