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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: whatnot on December 01, 2011, 07:16 pm

Title: Aakoven MDMA - first time dosage and a few questions.
Post by: whatnot on December 01, 2011, 07:16 pm
Hey everyone!  I am new to MDMA and this will be my first time officially rolling this weekend.  I have experience with mephedrone, methylone, 2ci & 2ct2, but i have never had a chance to try MDMA so I have a few questions that I hope yall can assist me with.

First, I have read that the average dosage for mdma is 120mg, but is 120mg of Aakoven's mdma good for first timers?   Also, i want the roll to last as long as possible so, from what I've read, I should do a booster at about the hour mark?  Is that correct?  What would be a good booster amount?

Second, I've read the come up can be harsh, but can I assume the come up is similar to other research chemicals like mephedrone or 2ci?

Third, I've read that some MDMA "floors" people... what exactly does that mean?  I was under the impression that it gave tons of energy.  If not, can I drink a redbull or drink a 5 hour energy with it?

Last, I am confused with the hangover for mdma.. I have read that some people feel crappy the next day, but then I've read that you dont get the hangover for a few days after the roll (suicide tuesdays)??


I'm a newbie so please be gentle.  Any help is GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks tons!
Title: Re: Aakoven MDMA - first time dosage and a few questions.
Post by: awesome1126 on December 01, 2011, 07:30 pm
I'd go for the magic 125mg. This is a perfect roll, and after having many many MDMA experiences from the MDMA on SR, I think 125mg is a guaranteed good time. Any more than this and you may vomit on the come-up. However, higher amounts to lead to a more intense experience, and if that's what you're after it could be worth getting through the nausea of 150-180mg.

The come-up can be a little intense, especially your first time. if you have experience with those other chems, I think you'll be fine.

MDMA floors people when you take higher doses. essentially, you just feel too damn good to do anything but sit there and touch yourself/others. It isn't an unaware experience, it's very lucid and aware though. You probably won't want to take a redbull or other energy drink if you take this much MDMA, it'll probably just make you uncomfortable.

The hangover differs from batch to batch I think, and from my experience it only makes you 'sort-of' depressed the next day, sometimes I cry for no reason, it's weird, just get lots of sleep, some benzos, and some weed and you'll be fine. :)

Good luck! MDMA has changed my life, remember to spread rolls out at least 3 weeks apart.
Title: Re: Aakoven MDMA - first time dosage and a few questions.
Post by: akistra on December 01, 2011, 07:45 pm
I know a rule about dosing MDMA- 1,5mg per kg body weight is the highest dosage you should take for the beginning. Every mg more don't boost the nice effects, but the bad side effects. If you are don't start with to much mg's for the beginning it can be a real good time for sure. 
;) ;D
Title: Re: Aakoven MDMA - first time dosage and a few questions.
Post by: caffeine_me on December 02, 2011, 08:02 pm
I have done E for years (4-6/year for ~13 years).  I did 150mg of AA's and felt it was a bit much.  A couple of months later I decided to try a lower dose of 100mg and was pleasantly surprised.  Did repeat with 100mg at about 2-3 hours for 6 hours of a amazing roll.
Title: Re: Aakoven MDMA - first time dosage and a few questions.
Post by: towelie on December 02, 2011, 08:40 pm
I did 125 of AA's a couple of weeks ago and felt that anymore would be a waste. I'm a big guy (220) and that dose seemed perfect.
Just wanted to add I don't pre/post load and I felt great the next day. For me I think the trick is plenty of slepp and space out your rolls 3wks to a month apart.
Anyway, that's how it was for me.
For a first timer and you may want to consider 100mg with a small booster a little later.
Title: Re: Aakoven MDMA - first time dosage and a few questions.
Post by: c0w4bung4t007 on December 02, 2011, 09:00 pm
I know a rule about dosing MDMA- 1,5mg per kg body weight is the highest dosage you should take for the beginning. Every mg more don't boost the nice effects, but the bad side effects. If you are don't start with to much mg's for the beginning it can be a real good time for sure. 
;) ;D

I took at least 160mg my first time (140lb so about 63kg) I had absolutely no negative side-effects (although I obviously did WAY to much since I don't remember the last hour or so of the peak of the trip).
I was stupid and did it again the next night and was also fine although it was obviously not as nice.

TL;DR
I was an idiot and took way too much but was fine.
Title: Re: Aakoven MDMA - first time dosage and a few questions.
Post by: wowzers on December 04, 2011, 02:01 am
I took some of Aakoven's MD last night- I only do it once a month to keep the magic, 140mg was a perfect dose but I was definitely pinned to the spot for 45 mins at the peak, lots of wobbly eyes and a sore jaw today!
A good starter dose which I give to newbie friends and my partner is 100mg with a 40mg booster at 2 hours to lengthen the plateau. Insufflating the booster dose seems to make the plateau more intense, orally it is a lot smoother.

whatnot- report back and tell us how it was, if you haven't yet done it, just remember that first-timers often get to the one hour point and say 'this is rubbish, I don't feel a thing' then boom! you're away. dont redose until at least 90 min. enjoy  :)
Title: Re: Aakoven MDMA - first time dosage and a few questions.
Post by: caffeine_me on December 04, 2011, 04:56 am
wowzers great advice.......I and many others made that mistake in the past.  Was it his Orange?
Title: Re: Aakoven MDMA - first time dosage and a few questions.
Post by: wowzers on December 04, 2011, 07:18 pm
caffeine_me- yeah it was but I gave it a quick ether/acetone wash to get rid of the orange crap and spicy smell. 1g cleaned up to 830mg of lovely white sparkles.
Title: Re: Aakoven MDMA - first time dosage and a few questions.
Post by: Gigles on December 08, 2011, 12:59 am
For a first timer I would recommend 125mg (assuming near purity), with a possible 50mg redose 1 hour in. Make sure you convince yourself beforehand that you won't do more than whatever amount you predetermine, because first timers are often so blown away they want to keep taking more and more (personally I took 4-5 pills the first time I rolled, which is excessive and I regret).

Also if you are worried about not having enough energy (if you're going to be partying/dancing), it would be perfectly safe and appropriate to drink a 8.5oz Redbull (80mg caffeine) with the MDMA. Personally I can dance for hours without stopping on pure MDMA, but I can do the same on cannabis or when sober. Many of my friends are much more "floored" by pure MDMA and just want to cuddle or whatnot.
Title: Re: Aakoven MDMA - first time dosage and a few questions.
Post by: Versailles on December 08, 2011, 06:29 pm
I got some of the "orange" (it's actually more of a light peach color) yesterday. I got it for my wife's birthday this weekend... it's a surprise (whether she's into it, I'll soon find out.)

So last night I had the rare opportunity to see a fav group play at a club. To test it out, I did a very small snort (on the corner if a credit card). Perhaps 30mg?

I instantly felt woozy, and wired... this lasted for about 45 minutes until inside the club i had a beer, then it eventually dissipated.

 I was a little surprised that it made me so wired though. IT makes me hesitant to try it with my wife– the thought of staying up all night wired with my pissed-off wife sounds more like a nightmare than a paradise. :)

I am certain AA's shit is excellent, so I guess it's one of two things: Either it was too small an amount and I didn't "break through", so to speak.

Or, even though I stopped taking anti-depressants a couple of weeks ago, perhaps it was still interfering(?) 

Any thoughts??
Title: Re: Aakoven MDMA - first time dosage and a few questions.
Post by: taller on December 08, 2011, 11:25 pm
versailles 30mg snorted will not get you high. i wouldn't recommend snorting mdma, maybe for redosing.. just take 100-200mg orally (150 will be enough for your first experience) and dose up if needed - next time you know how much you need to bomb to have a nice rush;)