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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: Japan1980 on May 13, 2013, 03:48 pm

Title: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: Japan1980 on May 13, 2013, 03:48 pm
Hi Fellow Silk Roaders,

I have managed to acquire some DMT and also a vaporizer known as 'the Machine' (basically a small Hennessy bottle with mesh in the neck and a drilled hole at the bottom).

I have never used DMT or the machine before - and wondered if someone would be kind enough that has experience to share with me the best way to use the machine without burning the DMT, as I know burning it is a complete waste as it needs to be Vaporized.

So if any one could give me either a step by step guide on how to do this or any tips, I would be extremely grateful.

Thanks in advance,
J     
Title: Re: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: BlackIris on May 13, 2013, 07:14 pm
The good of "the machine" is that it is difficult to burn the DMT for how it is done: when you melt the DMT the powder "disappear", but because of the heat transfer properties of the metal, the DMT evenly condenses on the cold, coiled metal. Then, after the DMT is evenly distributed, the same conductive properties ensure it vaporizes at near the same time, allowing the full dose to be ingested at once, in a single lungful, rather than being subject to the conductive and heat transfer properties of the glass, or much thicker metal.

To charge DMT just simply apply the spice (start low to try) on the neck (above the brillo) and then gently heat it until it melts inside (don't touch the DMT with a flame, stay above); usually just one single "flash" of the lighter is enough since DMT melts very easily (at 60-80 C).

To smoke simply reverse the bottle and heat the brillo while you take a full toke (suck as you light the DMT in the brillo, this is the point those accustomed with a crack pipe usually go wrong because they are accustomed to wait; with "the machine" the vaporization is immediate, so begin toking immediately) then hold the breath for at last 10 seconds. Done.

Very straightforward. Practice makes perfect but with "the machine", as I said, it is very difficult to waste the DMT because it is more difficult you burn it (the only way to burn it is at beginning when you try to melt it inside). Also if you cannot take a full toke at beginning (for inexperience) just take another, nothing is wasted.

You can also google around, there are many articles on the clearnet about "the machine" and how to use it. This is the original one where "the machine" first appeared:
http://mycotopia.net/forums/attachments/botanicals-cactus-misc-entheogens-psychedelics/180638d1280195772-freebase-pipe-options-spice-131385d1245222385-how-do-you-breaking-through-124761d1240376674-where-buy-dmt-oil-burner-pipe-ma.jpg

Title: Re: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: Japan1980 on May 13, 2013, 08:30 pm
Wow thanks for that Black Iris - very useful information :)

+1 for you
Title: Re: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: Japan1980 on May 13, 2013, 08:47 pm
So BlackIris - once the DMT has melted onto the brillo without the flame directly touching the DMT, you can hold the machine sucking through the bottom hole with the flame directly hitting the brillo that has the DMT melted on, and simply inhale the vapour?

Or is it better to heat the glass around the top of the neck in order to heat the brillo withouth the flame directly touching the brillo.

That's the only bit I'm slightly confused about.....if that makes sense!!

Regards,
J
Title: Re: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: Ballzinator on May 13, 2013, 08:50 pm
I just discovered this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtckVptu4I4
This guy made his own version of the machine using a PET bottle and aluminum foil.
Title: Re: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: Japan1980 on May 13, 2013, 08:58 pm
I just discovered this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtckVptu4I4
This guy made his own version of the machine using a PET bottle and aluminum foil.

Yeah I've seen that video, but the machine I've got is a small glass one, and wanted the best practice for that particular machine.
Title: Re: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: Devoidest on May 13, 2013, 09:09 pm
I made a "machine" with a small glass bottle time ago, I managed to vaporize the dmt but when I tried inaling the white smoke it  burned my troath,it was too harsh and hot,much more worse than cigars...
so I went only in the stadium 0 of experience: increasead color saturation, head heaviness and similar
I wasted the most of dmt I made

The E-cigarette method should be more gentle,look on dmtnexus
Title: Re: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: BlackIris on May 14, 2013, 09:11 am
So BlackIris - once the DMT has melted onto the brillo without the flame directly touching the DMT, you can hold the machine sucking through the bottom hole with the flame directly hitting the brillo that has the DMT melted on, and simply inhale the vapour?

Yes, that's it. If you have brillo (the coarser steel wool) then you can also touch it with the flame, but if your machine is made by fine steel wool then don't touch it with the flame elsewhere it ignites.

Or is it better to heat the glass around the top of the neck in order to heat the brillo withouth the flame directly touching the brillo.

This is only meant to melt the DMT (as in the article I mentioned) but I prefer to just melt it with a flame above, it's faster.
Title: Re: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: BlackIris on May 14, 2013, 09:41 am
I made a "machine" with a small glass bottle time ago, I managed to vaporize the dmt but when I tried inaling the white smoke it  burned my troath,it was too harsh and hot,much more worse than cigars...

You probably sucked in too strong, bringing the smoke all at once. This burns the throat (and in some cases can also make you puke). The toke should be gentle and long, not "all at once", in this way the smoke is much less harsh (actually after a bit of experience it becomes good to smoke).

If however you are still concerned about the harshness of the smoke use mint before toking DMT.
Title: Re: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: Japan1980 on May 14, 2013, 01:34 pm
Thanks for your advice BlackIris - due to your advice I have just had the most incredible experience I've ever had with regards to hallucinogenics.


So hard to put it into words, as I have no idea what the fuck happened - except it was truly exceptional.

Fuck I now LOVE DMT  8)

and the machine worked a fucking treat  :o
Title: Re: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: BlackIris on May 14, 2013, 02:37 pm
Glad I could be of help.

And yes, DMT is one of the best hallucinogenic also for me; you can do with it whatever you want for what it concerns OBEs and things linked.

See you in hyperspace  ;)

EDIT: Remember to change the brillo after about 30 uses because after a bit a resin stuck inside that turns the quality of the trip in a different direction and also obstacle the correct heat transfer. Simply use a piece of brillo (even if you take too much you can cut it later) remembering to ignite it directly with a flame to remove the fabric impurities, then shape it accordingly to the neck of the bottle. Very easy. But for now you have much to go on till this is a concern.
Title: Re: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: ElDude on May 30, 2013, 06:44 pm
So I want to make a machine, but I don't have a drill. Does anyone think I could punch a hole in the bottom with a phillips head screwdriver, or should I just wait until I've got a drill? If I should just wait for a drill, I'll probably end up doing the foil method (foil over the bottom of a 2 liter).
Title: Re: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: slirp on May 30, 2013, 09:24 pm
So I want to make a machine, but I don't have a drill. Does anyone think I could punch a hole in the bottom with a phillips head screwdriver, or should I just wait until I've got a drill? If I should just wait for a drill, I'll probably end up doing the foil method (foil over the bottom of a 2 liter).

Punching an opening has worked for others if there's a weak middle point as is common.
Title: Re: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: valakki on May 30, 2013, 09:31 pm
punching worked for me. but be very careful. wear protective  glasses! and  have another bottle if you shatter it too much!
Title: Re: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: ElDude on May 30, 2013, 10:29 pm
So I want to make a machine, but I don't have a drill. Does anyone think I could punch a hole in the bottom with a phillips head screwdriver, or should I just wait until I've got a drill? If I should just wait for a drill, I'll probably end up doing the foil method (foil over the bottom of a 2 liter).

Punching an opening has worked for others if there's a weak middle point as is common.
Are there any other beverages that have a weak spot in the bottle like hennessy does?
Title: Re: DMT & "The Machine" - advice needed please
Post by: slirp on May 31, 2013, 04:35 am
I think most glass bottles will have something different about the middle of the bottom that may make it easier to shatter a hole.  Technically you could shatter then entire end and patch it up with electrical or duck tape I suppose but that obviously isn't ideal.

Be careful not to buy a hard-plastic glass-like bottle as is common.  Most of the small bottles in my house are plastic but I've found a few that I think are suitable for the machine.  I may build one tomorrow.  DMT should be on its way soon but maybe I can use it to practice with 2c-b...not sure if that'll work or not.