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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: AnonymousAddict on September 23, 2012, 03:09 pm
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I was sent some and it was suppose to be brown #3 but was not.. he has it listed as #4 but #4 is tar...What i got was a tan colored powder...Who else has tried it and what do u think? What # H is it he has if u have tried and know your H...Im new to trying H so i dont know, i would guess just regular off white tan H..I dunno, im on methadone 20mg only now and it gave me the nod, just not for long....Iv got another bit being sent tomorrow so im goinna stop the methadone to see if that interferd with it.....ANY ideas? He is a great Guy though, he has worked with me, and gone above and beyond, he doesnt ship very fast but still he does get it to you..
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The original listing for his product said it was #3. He changed it to #4 after getting some more info. I ordered a sample last tues and it still hasn't showed. Starting to get a little worried, as there is no track, but hopefully will be here soon and will post if it does come through. DB4D required FE for the samples and it appears many people ordered, so it would be great to hear what other people think and if they got theirs OK.
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He sent me mine on a saturday i got it that wensday, its not H#3 AND its not Tar#4....its just off white Tan H..Im on methaone and i didnt get much but about 3 lines, i snorted a few bimps, then shot a little, i did get the nod but nothing fantastic,but i probley didnt do enuff, im waiting on another bag to be sent tomorow
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By the way im the one tht told him it wasnt brown #3 that why it changed..
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Cool- post when you get the new one as it looked good. I am waiting on a tester myself and will update hopefully soon!
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I was sent some and it was suppose to be brown #3 but was not.. he has it listed as #4 but #4 is tar...What i got was a tan colored powder...Who else has tried it and what do u think? What # H is it he has if u have tried and know your H...Im new to trying H so i dont know, i would guess just regular off white tan H..I dunno, im on methadone 20mg only now and it gave me the nod, just not for long....Iv got another bit being sent tomorrow so im goinna stop the methadone to see if that interferd with it.....ANY ideas? He is a great Guy though, he has worked with me, and gone above and beyond, he doesnt ship very fast but still he does get it to you..
number 4 heroin is powder (salt form) heroin. tar is some like fucked up bastard number 4 that is smoke-able. i ordered some from DB4D a couple of days ago too. if it doesnt need a base (acid [citric/ascorbic/etc]) it's number 4.
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just to clarify AA: #4 refers to the step in the manufacturing process during which you convert the freebase (#3, third step in process) to a salt using acid, generally hydrochloric - producing diamorphine HCl
#4 powder and tar are both appropriately called H #4. just produced by different methods.
(#3 powder is the base and generally a large percentage caffeine cut to facilitate vaporization)
it being a brown powder is not an indication what number the H is in:
apples - the quote "if it doesnt need a base" is incorrect... #3 IS the freebase, maybe it was a typo but you react the base with an acid to make it soluble in water. but what you were suggesting is correct - if it dissolves without the addition of acid then it is #4
i was excited to have a domestic supplier of powder but unfortunately i do not trust Db4D given his FE requirement and false feedback rating
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just to clarify AA: #4 refers to the step in the manufacturing process during which you convert the freebase (#3, third step in process) to a salt using acid, generally hydrochloric - producing diamorphine HCl
#4 powder and tar are both appropriately called H #4. just produced by different methods.
(#3 powder is the base and generally a large percentage caffeine cut to facilitate vaporization)
it being a brown powder is not an indication what number the H is in:
apples - the quote "if it doesnt need a base" is incorrect... #3 IS the freebase, maybe it was a typo but you react the base with an acid to make it soluble in water. but what you were suggesting is correct - if it dissolves without the addition of acid then it is #4
i was excited to have a domestic supplier of powder but unfortunately i do not trust Db4D given his FE requirement and false feedback rating
False feedback rating? I just placed an order with him for 500mg #4 H, and I had to FE even though I have over $6k spent and over 20 transactions. But he has a lot of transactions and a high rating so I wasn't worried but what makes you think he has a false feedback rating? Can you please explain? I am a bit worried now, how could someone create a false feedback rating? I could see creating fake transaction with other accounts and doing a few transactions but not as many as he has (if I remember correctly he has quite a bit of previous transactions)
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False feedback rating? I just placed an order with him for 500mg #4 H, and I had to FE even though I have over $6k spent and over 20 transactions. But he has a lot of transactions and a high rating so I wasn't worried but what makes you think he has a false feedback rating? Can you please explain? I am a bit worried now, how could someone create a false feedback rating? I could see creating fake transaction with other accounts and doing a few transactions but not as many as he has (if I remember correctly he has quite a bit of previous transactions)
anti- I think what micro (and others have said the same thing) is referring to by false FB rating is that he is requiring the FE 5/5 as a condition of DB4D to sell you anything . This is kind of misleading for people who have purchased such as myself, because a customer might have made a purchase with DB4D and never received their product, or it was inferior, late, etc and the person who paid for that package will not be able to reflect that in their rating of the vendor or dispute it with SR order resolution because they already gave him a 5/5 and FE.
As far as I know, there is no way to change this if you aren't happy with your order, because like in my case; as soon as I FE and gave the rating, the order disappeared from my Order History, so I assume (no matter what happens with my order) I will never be able to change the 5/5 rating, where as if I get it after 30 days and/or it is low potency, I would have given it a 1 or 2. This would bring the sellers rating down because they will no longer have a perfect score 5/5 for every transaction= 100% feedback rating. When a vendor starts getting 1's or 2's; their feedback rating can be 90%, 80%, 70% or lower; thus making you think twice before ordering from that person because obviously other customers have not been happy with their order.
I am not saying DB4D or any vendor who does this has been screwing people over, but any vendor who requires FE with a 5/5 rating should make you think twice before putting a lot of money down for an order; because I am not sure if you can do anything about a problem order after you have already done these two things (other than message the vendor). If there is a way to dispute a transaction after these 2 things are done, let me know; but that is my understanding.
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you can change your feedback at a later time. He wants you to agree not to though.
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just to clarify AA: #4 refers to the step in the manufacturing process during which you convert the freebase (#3, third step in process) to a salt using acid, generally hydrochloric - producing diamorphine HCl
#4 powder and tar are both appropriately called H #4. just produced by different methods.
(#3 powder is the base and generally a large percentage caffeine cut to facilitate vaporization)
it being a brown powder is not an indication what number the H is in:
apples - the quote "if it doesnt need a base" is incorrect... #3 IS the freebase, maybe it was a typo but you react the base with an acid to make it soluble in water. but what you were suggesting is correct - if it dissolves without the addition of acid then it is #4
i was excited to have a domestic supplier of powder but unfortunately i do not trust Db4D given his FE requirement and false feedback rating
i know #3 is the freebase form of heroin. a base (in that context) is the same thing as an acid (interchangeable term).
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i dont trust anyone who requires well established customers to FE, after tony - period
in his listings for H he requires you leave a 5/5 and then not change it or you get blacklisted which is bullshit. feedback scores should be fair and earned.
edit your feedback by clicking on SR account tab then on right side click view feedback
there are nearly TWELVE pages of FE feedbacks, and only a few were ever reported as arriving. many are like 1 btc sample listings which contribute to his falsified feedback score as well, which rose from around 93 to 99 in a week. i am too sketched to place an order at this point.
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i know #3 is the freebase form of heroin. a base (in that context) is the same thing as an acid (interchangeable term).
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please explain that to me.
they by definition are two completely different things, how can you call an acid a base? you said: "if it doesnt need a base" then its #4 ???
i am not saying youre wrong, i just dont understand and it is extremely confusing to me... there is no way you can substitute those and have it be interchangeable in any terminology i know. you add an acid (which by definition donates protons) to a base (which accepts protons by definition) but you cannot call muriatic acid a base in any sense i am aware of...
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i know #3 is the freebase form of heroin. a base (in that context) is the same thing as an acid (interchangeable term).
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please explain that to me.
they by definition are two completely different things, how can you call an acid a base? you said: "if it doesnt need a base" then its #4 ???
i am not saying youre wrong, i just dont understand and it is extremely confusing to me... there is no way you can substitute those and have it be interchangeable in any terminology i know. you add an acid (which by definition donates protons) to a base (which accepts protons by definition) but you cannot call muriatic acid a base in any sense i am aware of...
nevermind i was misinformed with my wording and i redact that. i had seen people use base and acid interchangeably for a long time (wondering what the fuck actually but not being interested enough in chemistry to actually read the wall of text). you are 100% right in my incorrect wording so just disregard that part. everything else still stands (and isn't really disagreed with so).
thank you for pointing that out to me though.
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FE is only there to protect vendors from new buyers. Established buyers with reasonable purchase stats should NEVER be required to FE.
When a vendor makes established buyers to FE, it either means they are amateurs or scammers, which you should avoid dealing with.
Don't just question the quality of the drug, question the quality of service and packaging too. Just one shitty packaged drug exposed can get you in trouble.
Only deal with from proven and professional vendors and never FE if you are don't want to get scammed or deal with amateur vendors.
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Anonaddict, so you got some #4 and was it decent? have you had other h from SR? what could u compare it too?
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if AA could nod, even just a little, while being tolerant to methadone - i would guess the quality is decent at least especially if he just received the 50 mg sample
if others have received please update, with all the FE it is hard to tell whats going on and how reliable the vendor really is...
basically he claims to require FE because he needs the funds the re-invest and because people will let it auto-finalize
this is bullshit, which is my problem with Db4D - if you are going to require established buyers with good stats to FE as mentioned, you should at least use an excuse that makes sense.
what most buyers dont realize is with all these vendors claiming "have pity on me, all my money is in escrow - you have to FE" are full of shit cause SR actually offers vendors a service where they can cash out a large portion of their money in escrow using a "cash advance" to prevent their funds all being held up.
dont support vendors who require FE
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word MM, it must be OK. i only got one of those 50mg samples cuz i was like what the hell, i btc for some h... fuck it. so either way it dont really matter. but if hes asking people to FE on those half grams thats upper fishy.
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I have to agree with everybody saying to be weary of this guy. I'm tempted by his coke, because it's pretested for levamisole,(that shit worries the hell out of me!!), but there's just no way I'm gonna trust an anonymous stranger with $120 of my money. I could get the sample, but that's really just a tease. Fuck FE for established buyers!!!! He can see in my stats that I never auto-finalize or get refunds! Fuck that shit! >:(
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Hello friends and loyal patrons:
I am a representative of the storefront deathb4dishonor, and I am writing in regards to the state of our order queue. We have shipped many of our late orders as of Saturday and today, for which feedback should begin to emerge by Wednesday. The response from our customers should vindicate our storefront by week's end. Yes, we are slightly backlogged due to order volume, but the degree of animosity in the messages we now receive is not warranted. We have stopped responding to communications on a temporary basis, until our customer feedback has repudiated the false assumptions about our storefront.
If you are writing us hateful messages about your order, demanding to know if it has been shipped, you are going to have to be more patient. Yes, you will get your drugs. No, this is not a fast food restaurant. No, your order did not ship out the same day you placed it. Many of you are not even able to keep your word long enough to find out whether your order will arrive, and to those of you who have jumped the gun and changed your feedback from 5/5, we advise you to reconsider. How can anyone without honor in this life expect to have any home in the next? We stand by our guarantee - everyone who paid money will get their order or if it is lost in transit, be eligible for a choice of either a full refund or replacement order.
Thank you for witholding your judgement regarding our storefront until the verdict from our customer feedback is in!
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i've been cool and haven't blown you guys up every 5 minutes asking about my shit. i just wanted to get my DCN number for my order since i have to go out of town for a day or two and wanted to know roughly when i should come back. (granted i haven't like posted anything on the forums or messaged your act on here but still).
if i could get that (pldappls) i would appreciate it
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I like how raj basically ignored all the issues voiced in this thread.
He talks about honor when he is taking peoples money before he even sends them product and makes it so they have no way of protecting themselves from a scam. Real "honorable"
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Ordered from him Friday, was sent out Saturday. Will update on speed and quality. Hoping I didn't get scammed.
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FE is only there to protect vendors from new buyers. Established buyers with reasonable purchase stats should NEVER be required to FE.
When a vendor makes established buyers to FE, it either means they are amateurs or scammers, which you should avoid dealing with.
Don't just question the quality of the drug, question the quality of service and packaging too. Just one shitty packaged drug exposed can get you in trouble.
Only deal with from proven and professional vendors and never FE if you are don't want to get scammed or deal with amateur vendors.
Great, I shouldn't have ordered from him but at the time of the order NoGen did not have listings up so I figured I'd give him a try. I sent him a message asking if he was positive that he had #4 H and not#3 as I am only looking for #4. I soon received a message from him ignoring my question completely that was obviously pre-written and pasted telling me I had to FE, which I did, and reminded him he did not answer my initial question, still no response. Its going to suck if it doesn't show up soon or is bad quality.
I will keep updated, has anyone else placed a 500mg order with him? I wonder why he doesn't sell more then 500mg (like 1 gram listings etc). Also, don't you think DPR or another SR admin would step in here if he is abusing the system like that? I mean SR makes a lot of money and protection of its buyers is critical so I would think they wouldn't hesitate to warn a vendor, but then again I don't know. Hopefully all goes well here...
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FE is only there to protect vendors from new buyers. Established buyers with reasonable purchase stats should NEVER be required to FE.
When a vendor makes established buyers to FE, it either means they are amateurs or scammers, which you should avoid dealing with.
Don't just question the quality of the drug, question the quality of service and packaging too. Just one shitty packaged drug exposed can get you in trouble.
Only deal with from proven and professional vendors and never FE if you are don't want to get scammed or deal with amateur vendors.
Great, I shouldn't have ordered from him but at the time of the order NoGen did not have listings up so I figured I'd give him a try. I sent him a message asking if he was positive that he had #4 H and not#3 as I am only looking for #4. I soon received a message from him ignoring my question completely that was obviously pre-written and pasted telling me I had to FE, which I did, and reminded him he did not answer my initial question, still no response. Its going to suck if it doesn't show up soon or is bad quality.
I will keep updated, has anyone else placed a 500mg order with him? I wonder why he doesn't sell more then 500mg (like 1 gram listings etc). Also, don't you think DPR or another SR admin would step in here if he is abusing the system like that? I mean SR makes a lot of money and protection of its buyers is critical so I would think they wouldn't hesitate to warn a vendor, but then again I don't know. Hopefully all goes well here...
anon received his first sample. has yet to hear back about second one. i ordered a 1/4 of a gram but i'm not really tripping yet so.
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I got a PM from him on SR tonight telling me the parcel had bent sent as agreed on. So im hoping and guessing he wouldnt even bother to go out his way to msg me to tell me that if it hasnt. But what i dont understand is priority mail in the us takes 2 to 5 days tops!! and there are ppl that have been waiting 8days, thats not normal. But he did me right the first time and i have no money in this 2nd go round he offerd to give me another cause of the mix of of which type it was, so i feel if u tell someone your gonna do something then be honorable like he speaks of and do it, he also said it would be mailed monday and he would update monday, well today i got the update, i agree with the member on here with the bruce willis pic, he speaks of honor and everything on his post but has everyones money an making them fe and only 2 or 3 of us have got anything from him, i dunno if maybe he lives closer to my state being on the east cost and thats why i got my package in 4days i just have no clue as to why it would take 8 days in the usa for priority mail..i get mail from india in 9 to 10days..
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I got a PM from him on SR tonight telling me the parcel had bent sent as agreed on. So im hoping and guessing he wouldnt even bother to go out his way to msg me to tell me that if it hasnt. But what i dont understand is priority mail in the us takes 2 to 5 days tops!! and there are ppl that have been waiting 8days, thats not normal. But he did me right the first time and i have no money in this 2nd go round he offerd to give me another cause of the mix of of which type it was, so i feel if u tell someone your gonna do something then be honorable like he speaks of and do it, he also said it would be mailed monday and he would update monday, well today i got the update, i agree with the member on here with the bruce willis pic, he speaks of honor and everything on his post but has everyones money an making them fe and only 2 or 3 of us have got anything from him, i dunno if maybe he lives closer to my state being on the east cost and thats why i got my package in 4days i just have no clue as to why it would take 8 days in the usa for priority mail..i get mail from india in 9 to 10days..
i think he waited till saturday to ship them out.
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Hello friends,
We are just writing to provide a further update on the status of the deathb4dishonor shipments this week.
As the feedback from our backlogged orders trickles in over the next few days, we would like to thank our old clientele and our new customers for their support and goodwill during this time of transition for our business. We greatly appreciate the patience that our new customers have demonstrated in finalizing early in order to be the first to sample our new product lines. We understand that this has not been easy for some in waiting out the delays caused by an explosive growth in our order volume – indeed for many, making an advance purchase from our storefront amounted to a leap of faith.
In order to express our appreciation for those customers who finalized early, and for our old customer base who were there when we started out selling amphetamine capsules, we are awarding a permanent discount for all these buyer accounts to purchase freely from our new product lines at their original prices. Having sent out enough of our products to prove the pure grade quality of our wares, we have nearly doubled our prices to reflect their actual market value. Now that enough orders are in transit to vindicate our storefront within the next few days, we are no longer accepting any new orders finalized early, and we are operating exclusively within the escrow system. We have recorded the buyer accounts of those customers who broke their word and changed their feedback from 5/5. It should go without saying that these accounts will not be offered a discount of any kind going forward. Sadly, most of these customers were the few that we managed to respond to in the flood of messages, and even more astonishingly, many among this group of customers received free samples from our storefront in an effort to compensate for delays.
Thank you for witholding your judgement regarding our storefront until the verdict from our customer feedback is in!