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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: AlternateReality on October 02, 2013, 10:05 pm

Title: How Dread Pirate Roberts got caught.
Post by: AlternateReality on October 02, 2013, 10:05 pm
https://medium.com/p/d48995e8eb5a

Worth a read.
Title: Re: How Dread Pirate Roberts got caught.
Post by: Magic Man on October 02, 2013, 10:10 pm
what a Fuckin noob.
Title: Re: How Dread Pirate Roberts got caught.
Post by: b0lixtrader on October 02, 2013, 11:05 pm
This is the guy that seriously started all this???

In one of the articles I read it says, it may have not been him who is the original DPR.

That would make sense why he made such a stupid mistake or mistakes.  Damn.
Title: Re: How Dread Pirate Roberts got caught.
Post by: Mcrad on October 02, 2013, 11:10 pm
He was not DPR and never could be!

Much love_mcrad!
Title: Re: How Dread Pirate Roberts got caught.
Post by: anonman88 on October 02, 2013, 11:24 pm
according to that though, they got the original DPR. if you've been here a while, you would know that thats not the current DPR. i expect it to be back up in a few days on one of the other site address :)
Title: Re: How Dread Pirate Roberts got caught.
Post by: comsec on October 02, 2013, 11:45 pm
He may have been peddling a phony story to Forbes magazine to cover his tracks when he first started (orig DPR) and left lot's of mistakes around like reusing identities to shill this board.

Or the feds are retards and he did buy the site out from the first guy.

They didn't do any magical Tor circumventing tricks to get him. he literally talked and half-assed his way into jail.
Title: Re: How Dread Pirate Roberts got caught.
Post by: Scot Walker on October 03, 2013, 12:38 am
according to that though, they got the original DPR. if you've been here a while, you would know that thats not the current DPR. i expect it to be back up in a few days on one of the other site address :)

That's actually quite interesting, and I had not thought of it until you said it. The more interesting thing is, I just got through reading his Linkedin profile, and the way he writes there sounds way more like the original DPR than the guy who has been running the show as of late. Here's the quote, and a link to his profile:

http://www.linkedin.com/in/rossulbricht

"I love learning and using theoretical constructs to better understand the world around me. Naturally therefore, I studied physics in college and worked as a research scientist for five years. I published my findings in peer reviewed journals five times over that period, first on organic solar cells and then on EuO thin-film crystals. My goal during this period of my life was simply to expand the frontier of human knowledge.

Now, my goals have shifted. I want to use economic theory as a means to abolish the use of coercion and agression amongst mankind. Just as slavery has been abolished most everywhere, I believe violence, coercion and all forms of force by one person over another can come to an end. The most widespread and systemic use of force is amongst institutions and governments, so this is my current point of effort. The best way to change a government is to change the minds of the governed, however. To that end, I am creating an economic simulation to give people a first-hand experience of what it would be like to live in a world without the systemic use of force."
Title: Re: How Dread Pirate Roberts got caught.
Post by: wretched on October 03, 2013, 12:43 am
There has only ever been one DPR (SR). Of this I am sure.
Title: Re: How Dread Pirate Roberts got caught.
Post by: psilocin on October 03, 2013, 05:18 am
DPR felt the heat, he gave few millions $ worth of BTC to kid named Ross Ulbricht to take a fall and jailtime and he disapeared....Ross Ulbricht may as well be SR employee but not the main guy
.I'm not buying official story like I'm not buying 9/11 pancake collapse.....and that about the ordering a hit is even funnier....common no PGP no nothing, even no privnote that can be used by mentally challenged...

he is out there, just my ฿0.02
Title: Re: How Dread Pirate Roberts got caught.
Post by: Baraka on October 03, 2013, 06:09 am
+1

Very well said. Agree completely.

DPR felt the heat, he gave few millions $ worth of BTC to kid named Ross Ulbricht to take a fall and jailtime and he disapeared....Ross Ulbricht may as well be SR employee but not the main guy
.I'm not buying official story like I'm not buying 9/11 pancake collapse.....and that about the ordering a hit is even funnier....common no PGP no nothing, even no privnote that can be used by mentally challenged...

he is out there, just my ฿0.02
Title: Re: How Dread Pirate Roberts got caught.
Post by: dipset on October 03, 2013, 06:21 am
taking a fall for something of the magnitude and audacity like SR is no simple slap on the wrist, be it a patsy or not. Mandatory minimums and conspiracy/RICO charges will put this guy away from 40-50 years at least with mandatory minimums alone, even if he gave them all the info he knows... He'll crack, just like everyone else does... The Feds have a phenomenal conviction rates across the board, as they are patient, gather evidence, and strike once they got you dead to rights. Try sitting across a table in a purposely confining interrogation room, from a guy(s) who's job it is to terrify people into submission saying " You're looking at doing the rest of your life in a federal prison, do you think any of your "friends" are gonna take that sacrifice for you?" Someone will talk...
Title: Re: How Dread Pirate Roberts got caught.
Post by: SorryMario on October 03, 2013, 06:30 am
Well ain't this a kick in the head :(

From what I've read, it's pretty conclusive that 1) the guy they caught is indeed DPR and 2) he's the only SR DPR there ever was. If I had to guess, I'd say the story about a second DPR was meant to be some sort of ruse he concocted to perhaps distance himself from the fatal security lapses which connected his true identity to SR's original launch as well as its ongoing operation.

This is really sad news. I shudder to think what he's going through now that the federal oinkers have kidnapped him and locked him in a cage somewhere. I truly hope he somehow manages to beat this or escape or something.
Title: Re: How Dread Pirate Roberts got caught.
Post by: Yousaf on October 04, 2013, 05:30 am
Does he even have a good lawyer?
Title: Re: How Dread Pirate Roberts got caught.
Post by: newbottles on October 04, 2013, 05:31 pm
From what I've read, it's pretty conclusive that

These are key words!  Whatever the reality is, we are not getting the full, accurate story of the DPR bust.

This guy could be anything from the OG only DPR, to the second DPR, to a fake fall guy DPR, to a manufactured patsy by the feds to fake a major victory and scare the shit out of all vendors/users and POTENTIAL future vendors/users.  Or something else.

The server was seized that seems certain.  Or 'A' server.  Who knows?

The only rational approach is don't believe 100% of the official narratives, and don't assume that 100% of what happened is being disseminated.

This case and narrative will develop interesting twists over the coming weeks and months I guarantee.

Will Ulbricht live to see trial?  Will he rat out someone they really want to get at and cut a sweet deal?

Put your tinfoil hat on for this stuff folks.  It is the rational approach.

Like an event such as 9/11 or ET contact event, the best thing to do is take a breath and NOT freak out like everyone else is.  That is the desired effect -- so resist it.

Stay smart, stay safe, lay low, avoid honeytraps.