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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: lucidity on November 25, 2011, 09:53 am
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I'm not sure what to do about receiving a package. The buyer's guide suggests a PO box or a friends address. But PO boxes don't seem particularly safe to me, and from some posts I've read here, they aren't the greatest idea, and can be pretty expensive I think?
And I don't have any friends that would be willing to accept a package of this kind for me, and frankly I wouldn't want to subject any of my friends to that danger.
What do I do?
also, what's the consensus on fake names? I've read conflicting opinions, it all seems split. If it has any influence, I sent a test letter with a fake name and it arrived the next day without issue.
edit: and I'm only getting LSD, from a local seller(australia)
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Hey lucidity,
It all depends a lot on:
◄ Where do you live. Different things work in different countries. Also, do you live in a small town, where everyone knows everyone, or is it huge city? Obviously, if the postman have been delivering letters to that address with one name on them for the past 2 years, he will know something is up is he sees different name once in a while. It's easier if you're renting the place. You can always use the name of previous tenant, and if something's up you can easily play a fool.
◄ How big your orders gonna be? If you're just going to order gram of weed or a pill once in a while you shouldn't worry TOO much.
Oh, and if you use a fake name don't make it completely random. Bugs Bunny or Jesus Christ if a good idea of what not to use ;)
Good luck. You're playing it smart already, by not jumping into ordering blindly. Take your time and be sure of what you're doing.
Bob
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Thanks for the quick reply bob
I live in a big city in Australia, we rent but I do not remember the name of past tenants as we've been renting here for a long time. The order is very small, 2 tabs acid, and the seller has a good reputation for packaging.
I'm leaning toward just ordering with real name/address based on these facts, if the unthinkable should happen I can just play dumb, people send stupid shit in the mail all the time I'm sure.
also, I doubt it would but I may as well ask. I recently ordered a cracker off eBay, which should arrive sometime next week, would that set off any flags for future packages? (they're legal afaik)
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You are right, lucidity. I don't know how customs/post office works in Australia, but I wouldn't worry about couple of blotters:)
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i wanted to bring up this topic of PO Box vs Physical Address again.
Like the original post said, the buyers guide strongly suggests a PO Box, but it seems like there is added risk and suspicion possibility with that. I opened a new PO Box, but that fact alone makes me less "known" by the post office so they may pay a little closer attention to what arrives there. I'm going to start having other mail and packages sent there but that takes time.
Here's the question. Assuming you legally open a PO Box, which is probably the best approach for various reasons, then your name is linked to it in some way, even if you use a company/organization name, so how is that better than just using your physical address? At least with your physical address, you can continue a reputation of receiving lots of mail and packages so it would fit right in. If caught for either option, you're going to play dumb anyway right? Plus, you eliminate that scary possibility of someone waiting for you at your PO Box, not to mention reduced likelihood of PO employees getting into it. Thoughts?
Also, has anyone just addressed their packages to "Leave at Front Door"? If the mailman does this often with your mail, then that may just seem normal.
Thanks. I'm a new buyer so I want to make the right choice on receiving.
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I would think PO Box is riskier, only because you still need ID to open a PO Box in Australia, and I highly doubt you'll find a post office these days that doesn't keep its PO boxes under CCTV surveillance.
PS: LSD in Aus... if they are on SR can you provide a link? :)
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Using a PO Box offers no protection to conceal your address whatsoever. Even in the EU/UK with Data Protection etc. Post Office is legally obligated to reveal address details to authorities (and even the public if you use it for business use). You may as well use your own address and save the money.
An alternative is using whats termed a "business accommodation address". In the past you used to be find these in nearly every town in UK and many would readily accept new customers without any ID checks (but I suspect that has been tightened up now).. basically they will accept mail for you and you can go collect it in person. You would wanna have look legit and have your order addressed to a business name rather than a personal name..
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Haha... You've read the wrong tutorial ::)
Setting up a PO-BOX with your real name is bullshit!!!
Read and learn from professionals ;)
BE SAFE GETTING SHIPMENTS
A. Try Your Hardest To Get Fake ID So You Can Set Up A PO Box.
Some people pay bums or drifting junkies/squaters who have IDs to set up boxes for them (and some pay them to pick up packs as well)
but imo thats fucked up and bad vibes + sketchy.
Some people pay hookers too but thats sketchy
(although both would probably be able to explain their way out of any charges and neither would need to know your real info or where you live).
Anyways I Say Bad Juju Don’t Do That.
But use a fake ID to set up a PO box wearing a hat and gloves.
Try and get it at a 24/7 place and go for mom and pop places (shitty camera systems less likely to photocopy your ID).
If they do photocopy ID you can spray hairspray on the picture and it will be a low quality scan but way better to not have it scan at all
customers don’t have a great deal to worry about on this one.
But vendors could technically be busted by using a computer facial recognition algorithm to scan the DMV database of
legitimate IDs for a face that matches up with the facial scan of the picture on the fake ID.
Let Packages Sit For A Period Of Time Before Picking Them Up.
24/7 Surveillance gets expensive fast I would let analogs sit for three days illegal shit that doesn’t smell for dogs sit for a week and anything dogs
can smell I would let sit for two weeks at least probably.
Stake the place out before you get your package does anything look suspicious?
Are there any people in the area that look like they might be cops?
(shaved head sketches me out most cops around here have low cut hair).
If you get the pack late at night from a 24/7 place there should be no one around.
Don’t park in the parking lot either park at least a half block away.
B. If You Can’t Get A PO Box Abandoned Buildings Are Good.
Fake name obviously (PO boxes you should send to the fake name on the fake ID).
C. If neither of the above two will work get shit sent to a friends house (with a fake name) and have them keep it clean between shipments.
When they get the pack they should write return to sender on it and NOT open it for at least a day.
D. ALL packs you get should NOT be signed for you don’t want to essentially admit you bought illegal stuff with a signature because that
WILL be used against you if it goes to court.
If they ask you to sign for a pack refuse it could be a controlled delivery.
Also all packs should be tracked and if they are held up for too long refuse delivery.
If a pack is held in customs for more than two or three days I would refuse delivery if it was coming to me or a friend if it was coming to a PO box
or abandoned building I would wait a month + to pick it up.
Domestic packs don’t go through customs and wont hsow up as held.
Oh yeah ALWAYS use TOR when checking shipping people HAVE been busted for checking shipping.
There was a vendor busted that way a “customer” said he was missing a pack the vendor checked the tracking to see if it was delivered
and they got his real IP and raided him shortly after.
Was a MOM (mail order MJ) vendor.
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Unless you are ordering large amounts or living with a cop your normal address is just fine. If you can get mail at a business that would work but in all honesty if its just personal amounts the customs will just take it.