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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: hgjskaus6fgsh2 on November 24, 2012, 04:47 am
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I have heard some horror stories about butane hash oil and I want to be sure I am not smoking it but there is some bubble hash that looks real good that I would buy if I could tell the difference.
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BHO > Bubble Hash BY FAR.. and if you cannot tell the difference.. we're guessing you just started smoking?
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If he did just start smoking I think you could be a little more helpful. As a hash vendor I hope I don't show too much ignorance here, but isn't one of them an oil and the other one a solid? Being from Australia I have never seen/used BHO so I am not an authority on the subject, but the only horror stories I've heard all had to do with the making of BHO. I don't see how consuming it sensibly can result in a horror story, maybe a panic attack if it is potent enough.
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If he did just start smoking I think you could be a little more helpful. As a hash vendor I hope I don't show too much ignorance here, but isn't one of them an oil and the other one a solid? Being from Australia I have never seen/used BHO so I am not an authority on the subject, but the only horror stories I've heard all had to do with the making of BHO. I don't see how consuming it sensibly can result in a horror story, maybe a panic attack if it is potent enough.
yes, bubble hash is a solid made using bubble bags. bubble bags are a series of bags with tiny tiny holes, like 25 microns big, that you run a mixture of ground up weed with ice water through and the thc will not go through. BHO is a oil, or if you make it well enough and are able to extract most of the butane, a wax like substance. that is why sometimes people will call BHO ear wax.
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If he did just start smoking I think you could be a little more helpful. As a hash vendor I hope I don't show too much ignorance here, but isn't one of them an oil and the other one a solid? Being from Australia I have never seen/used BHO so I am not an authority on the subject, but the only horror stories I've heard all had to do with the making of BHO. I don't see how consuming it sensibly can result in a horror story, maybe a panic attack if it is potent enough.
Well.. the thing is.. BHO = "Butane Hash Oil".. the key word being OIL.
Bubble Hash is usually in chunks.. never pastey... never oily. Always a usually dense solid, unless it is just pressed Kief.
BHO has to be smoked with a Dome/Nail setup or a Swivel Arm-type Rig set up.
Bubble Hash/Hash itself can be smoked on a screen or mixed in with buds in a very easy process compared to doing it with BHO.
That's why most people just use the oil setups.. considering it is not an easy concentrate to work with. You usually cannot touch it with
your hands and it requires a tool known as a "Dabber" to usually maintain the oil itself for smoking, literally.
Hope this helps and we did not mean to come off as a dick earlier. We really do hope this helps you.
And as the guy stated above.. the only thing that could be a horror story would be making Bubble Hash and Butane Hash Oil.
A lot of Butane is used in the BHO.. ;) Could really cause some damage or blow some shit up! But if you blew something up making BHO.. you probably deserved it. ;)
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If he did just start smoking I think you could be a little more helpful. As a hash vendor I hope I don't show too much ignorance here, but isn't one of them an oil and the other one a solid? Being from Australia I have never seen/used BHO so I am not an authority on the subject, but the only horror stories I've heard all had to do with the making of BHO. I don't see how consuming it sensibly can result in a horror story, maybe a panic attack if it is potent enough.
Well.. the thing is.. BHO = "Butane Hash Oil".. the key word being OIL.
Bubble Hash is usually in chunks.. never pastey... never oily. Always a usually dense solid, unless it is just pressed Kief.
BHO has to be smoked with a Dome/Nail setup or a Swivel Arm-type Rig set up.
Bubble Hash/Hash itself can be smoked on a screen or mixed in with buds in a very easy process compared to doing it with BHO.
That's why most people just use the oil setups.. considering it is not an easy concentrate to work with. You usually cannot touch it with
your hands and it requires a tool known as a "Dabber" to usually maintain the oil itself for smoking, literally.
Hope this helps and we did not mean to come off as a dick earlier. We really do hope this helps you.
And as the guy stated above.. the only thing that could be a horror story would be making Bubble Hash and Butane Hash Oil.
A lot of Butane is used in the BHO.. ;) Could really cause some damage or blow some shit up! But if you blew something up making BHO.. you probably deserved it. ;)
i know people that lit their trash can on fire by mistake from the vapor fumes :P when i was actively growing and making a shit ton of BHO regularly, we got our process down to a science, where we were able to get ride of essentially all of the butane completely, making the oil almost a crazy strong clumpy powder. it all depends on what type of butane you use (vector that is filtered at least 10x is the best) and how you heat the oil to cause the butane to evaporate. theres also some other tricks to get even more butane to leave the final product, but i don't think most people would agree with worth it or would just think i'm crazy for doing it like that :P
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If he did just start smoking I think you could be a little more helpful. As a hash vendor I hope I don't show too much ignorance here, but isn't one of them an oil and the other one a solid? Being from Australia I have never seen/used BHO so I am not an authority on the subject, but the only horror stories I've heard all had to do with the making of BHO. I don't see how consuming it sensibly can result in a horror story, maybe a panic attack if it is potent enough.
Well.. the thing is.. BHO = "Butane Hash Oil".. the key word being OIL.
Bubble Hash is usually in chunks.. never pastey... never oily. Always a usually dense solid, unless it is just pressed Kief.
BHO has to be smoked with a Dome/Nail setup or a Swivel Arm-type Rig set up.
Bubble Hash/Hash itself can be smoked on a screen or mixed in with buds in a very easy process compared to doing it with BHO.
That's why most people just use the oil setups.. considering it is not an easy concentrate to work with. You usually cannot touch it with
your hands and it requires a tool known as a "Dabber" to usually maintain the oil itself for smoking, literally.
Hope this helps and we did not mean to come off as a dick earlier. We really do hope this helps you.
And as the guy stated above.. the only thing that could be a horror story would be making Bubble Hash and Butane Hash Oil.
A lot of Butane is used in the BHO.. ;) Could really cause some damage or blow some shit up! But if you blew something up making BHO.. you probably deserved it. ;)
i know people that lit their trash can on fire by mistake from the vapor fumes :P when i was actively growing and making a shit ton of BHO regularly, we got our process down to a science, where we were able to get ride of essentially all of the butane completely, making the oil almost a crazy strong clumpy powder. it all depends on what type of butane you use (vector that is filtered at least 10x is the best) and how you heat the oil to cause the butane to evaporate. theres also some other tricks to get even more butane to leave the final product, but i don't think most people would agree with worth it or would just think i'm crazy for doing it like that :P
You are right to an extent. It all boils down to the process.. the steps.. the order of the steps. The bud.. or "trim".. Trim is a waste and we feel rude to sell people trim ran BHO. Hell, trim made hash.
Vector is the BEST commercially.. but we're not even on the West Coast and you can get CASES of no name Butane that is "5x" filtered just like Vector.. but it all really boils down to the material that the inside of the can of Butane is made out of.. when it comes to the quality of the Butane. :)
And it is a really easy process.. but purging is where you really remove the butane. If you're not purging.. you're leaving Butane in there..
PERIOD.
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i wasn't on the west coast either, and the vector i was getting was 12x if i recall, its been a few months as i haven't been living in the area or growing since the end of august. as for the trim made BHO, the trim we were useing i would smoke as well. i guess i should have clarified, by trim, i mean mostly the small scraggy nugs from the lower branches, the stuff that too small to actually sell to people, but for person use is all good. i did have a few strains that the trim was insane though, swiss cheese, pinapple chunk, ice, super lemon haze; the actual trim was so nice, i would smoke it sometimes as well. i think there is also a possibility of what i call trim is different from what you call trim, we were very picky about how we trimmed our nugs, cutting off all of the leaf, not being lazy but actually digging in and taking the extra time to make sure it was as pretty as can be :) just to clarify, i'm not calling you lazy, because i have never seen your bud, so i really can't judge it, i'm sure its just as awesome as the stuff i was growing :)
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hash contains the trichome stalks and heads with a varying amount of plant material.
BUBBLE hash is the glands (stalks and heads)caught between varying sized screens using water and ice to break them free from the plant material
FULL MELT BUBBLE is the 1 layer that trapped full, unbroken heads with the least amount of plant material, stalks or broken heads
BHO is butane used as a solvent that dissolves the stalks and heads, filtering out ALL plant material, then is evaporated away leaving the pure oils and plant waxes
lots of different solvents can be used, ether, naphtha, acetone, hexane even alcohol.. butane is preferred because it's non-polar and easy to get. it dissolves the oils but leaves the water soluble chlorophyll and green colors behind. also, butane brings the terpines along. all the smell and flavor of the plant material will be concentrated in the wax along with the buzz....there is no better high, makes you feel like the first time you ever tried mary jane. room spins, hot flashes, and a strong rush are all likely....I've seen more than 1 first timer actually throw up from the heat-rush
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hash contains the trichome stalks and heads with a varying amount of plant material.
BUBBLE hash is the glands (stalks and heads)caught between varying sized screens using water and ice to break them free from the plant material
FULL MELT BUBBLE is the 1 layer that trapped full, unbroken heads with the least amount of plant material, stalks or broken heads
BHO is butane used as a solvent that dissolves the stalks and heads, filtering out ALL plant material, then is evaporated away leaving the pure oils and plant waxes
lots of different solvents can be used, ether, naphtha, acetone, hexane even alcohol.. butane is preferred because it's non-polar and easy to get. it dissolves the oils but leaves the water soluble chlorophyll and green colors behind. also, butane brings the terpines along. all the smell and flavor of the plant material will be concentrated in the wax along with the buzz....there is no better high, makes you feel like the first time you ever tried mary jane. room spins, hot flashes, and a strong rush are all likely....I've seen more than 1 first timer actually throw up from the heat-rush
We've never thrown up.. but we've watched people throw up! Haha.. we love giving people monster dabs.
This one guy we know he has to "poop" every time he hits it hard.. but really he is coughing so hard he throws up, hahaha.
He is hilarious.
i wasn't on the west coast either, and the vector i was getting was 12x if i recall, its been a few months as i haven't been living in the area or growing since the end of august. as for the trim made BHO, the trim we were useing i would smoke as well. i guess i should have clarified, by trim, i mean mostly the small scraggy nugs from the lower branches, the stuff that too small to actually sell to people, but for person use is all good. i did have a few strains that the trim was insane though, swiss cheese, pinapple chunk, ice, super lemon haze; the actual trim was so nice, i would smoke it sometimes as well. i think there is also a possibility of what i call trim is different from what you call trim, we were very picky about how we trimmed our nugs, cutting off all of the leaf, not being lazy but actually digging in and taking the extra time to make sure it was as pretty as can be :) just to clarify, i'm not calling you lazy, because i have never seen your bud, so i really can't judge it, i'm sure its just as awesome as the stuff i was growing :)
Some leaf.. as you may know is actually very sugary.. and to trim it off of the bud would be ruining your flowers. :)
We consider trim to be exactly what it is.. TRIM. The stuff that is not prized enough to remain on your buds.. so it has to be trimmed off.
Manicure is key. Grow is key. Flush is key. Cure is key. It all adds up and makes your stuff that much more "bomb" or "be bombed".
We're not here to judge anyone's stuff. Someone asked a question so we responded to it.
Chronic Crew gave about the best answer you could possible get.. and his 2 cents at the end.. is the best.
Oil is definitely the best way to smoke.. and it will increase your tolerance.. but just dab a little more. ;) Way better, convenient, and potent that smoking on the actual flowers or "trim". We prefer oil and that is it.
Everyone have a blessed night.
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just to add another way of smoking oil, if you smoke cigarettes, you can take oil and rub it on the outside of the cigarette. if you do this though, you need to be careful to not let the oil just drip off, if you do it properly, it will slowly melt down the cigarette as you smoke it. do beware though, your tolerance will get crazy high if you do this often. as an example, at my peak of smoking (i'm currently taking a break) i was taking around 20 or so dabs a day, and it wasn't really fazing me to much. although, i've never seen people take as many dabs as the GRC crew, was hanging with them at a few festivals this past summer, and they will just keep doing dabs on dabs on dabs.
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just to add another way of smoking oil, if you smoke cigarettes, you can take oil and rub it on the outside of the cigarette. if you do this though, you need to be careful to not let the oil just drip off, if you do it properly, it will slowly melt down the cigarette as you smoke it. do beware though, your tolerance will get crazy high if you do this often. as an example, at my peak of smoking (i'm currently taking a break) i was taking around 20 or so dabs a day, and it wasn't really fazing me to much. although, i've never seen people take as many dabs as the GRC crew, was hanging with them at a few festivals this past summer, and they will just keep doing dabs on dabs on dabs.
We run through at least 2 grams a day.. =/ At least 60 dabs or so.. lol. Some bigger than others! SOME HUGE GLOBS..
Some tiny baby dabs. Some big ol' dunks.. some rocky ol' chunks. ;) GBS!
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The horror stories from BHO that I am talking about involve chemical burns in your throat from improperly purged butane. Also IIRC a lot of commercial butane has other chemicals (propane and a few others) which are bad for you. BHO scares me especially when I have no idea how many contaminants may remain.
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To clarify I saw a vender list bubble hash and I was just worried that if they are buying from a dispensary things may be mislabeled, etc. And I wanted to be able to know based on sight the difference. Thanks for all the posts this thread really blew up fast,
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To clarify I saw a vender list bubble hash and I was just worried that if they are buying from a dispensary things may be mislabeled, etc. And I wanted to be able to know based on sight the difference. Thanks for all the posts this thread really blew up fast,
Haha.. no problem. We are a pretty well-rounded community when we need to be. :) The worst BHO-involved story we have ever heard
involved the torch blowing up in someone's hand while getting the nail hot. :) We prefer a Honey Hole. Really nice stuff. Good glassss good!
Titanium works just as well.. but the dome accumulates way too much oil remnants compared to a Honey Hole where everything can just be torched off to clean it.