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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: theweeman on June 01, 2013, 08:04 pm
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i have been buying #3 heroin from a couple of vendors ,frank matthews and c36amg ,for a few months now .
when i first bought at the start of the year the heroin was outstanding it took me back to when i first started using 15 years ago .
but as time has went on the quality seems to be getting worse .
3 weeks ago i bought from frank it was not much better than what i would get on the street plus i got a really bad headache . i messaged him he told me it was the same stuff as i got from him the last few times so it could not have been any worse , i have been taking heroin long enough to know good quality
so i started getting from c36 , his was decent at first too but then last week the quality was poor .
why is it they are jumping all over it , its not like we are not paying for good quality , they have no need to keep mixing it more and more , its just greed .
im paying 240 pound for 3.5g from silk road when i could get it from the street for 100 pound , so the quality should be a lot better than what it is.
silk road needs more heroin vendors that ship to the uk , maybe then the quality will get better again
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I do pretty much every drug under the sun and H quality is the most unpredictable in terms of quality and availability. Even more so than coke. I don't do #3 but do #4 and it's always a huge gamble. Even amongst the same vendor. One week he has fire and the next it may be garbage.
This is even a bigger problem on the street where if the quality is good they pass off lower quantity and if it's crap they try to make you a deal on bulk.
It's a rough life when your preferred hobby is H
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I've got a somewhat different situation but it fits under this subject heading so I'll write it here. I've bought heroin from three different highly recommended vendors. I have no complaints about potency. Each batch was plenty potent. But none of the samples really gave me any pleasure. They all put me on the nod and made me tired, but that's not why I take heroin. The heroin I used to get (decades ago, as I have not used for decades) was very warm and pleasurable. I really enjoyed socializing on it. The current stuff lacks pleasure, in fact, I see no reason for taking it at all. Has heroin changed somehow in recent decades??
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Orpheus, in my experience it depends on the dose. A lower dose gives me a little energy, some euphoria and a pretty good mood. A larger dose makes me nod hard and when that ends, I just kind of feel flat lined, neither happy or sad.
I would suggest DieselTherapy if you want some H that's a little different. Check out some of his reviews from today on the main site.
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i think some of the heroin vendors on silk road are mixing the heroin with feyntanol as that is a lot stronger than heroin but the high you get from it is not like heroin it just knocks you out and the effect wears off very quick , maybe thats why iv been getting the headaches .
and im not the only one that thinks this i seen a review on c63amg s heroin and it said he thought it was mixed with feynt
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Heroins fucked up go get help
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yah fentanyl is shit. it is extremely potent but the high is nothing like junk. i have found a local vendor with consistent quality. small doses and i'm very social, mood lift and nice body buzz. higher doses brings a heavy nod with a thick blanket of warm euphoria. best feeling junk i have done on SR.
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Actually there have been several times I have had AMAZING quality on SR - and then when you get bunk dope you feel so bummed after knowing what it could really be like
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I've also gotten amazing quality on SR. And the worst quality I've ever seen, so bad that I actually washed it down the sink. Quality around here varies, but I've found that established vendors are fairly consistent. I don't get #3 though, so I can't speak to that.
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Well, now with our spammer we've lost the thread of the conversation. I hope someone picks it up from here. I was going to ask WoundedVet whose heroin was really great. I've had gotsitall, MisterMcFeely and subsrgood, all highly recommended and all very potent. But not pleasurable. I've ordered Nods4Less which should get here Monday. It's not that I'm taking too much or too little. I know my way around heroin. It's just that I don't get the pleasurable feelings from it that I used to get years ago. I did some with a friend last night who I used to use with years ago, and he agreed. He went on the nod big time, but didn't find it particularly pleasurable. I know there must be some really pleasurable, warm, euphoric dope on here somewhere, but it's getting expensive for me to be trying all this dope without really enjoying it. At least now I'm ordering 1/4 gram instead of full grams.
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Yu have to take into account seller rep big time with H - but even then sometimes they dont know what cut is in it
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It's not a matter of cut, it's just that different batches of heroin have different feelings. Some is euphoric, some just puts you on the nod. And I've only been able to find the latter so far. By and large, I think the quality of heroin 30 years ago was just better than what is available today. Why, I don't know.
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a lot of drugs will give you that euphoria at the beginning. you chase it for the rest of your time using. it wont ever come back probably. do you think its a chance that its you and not the h?
have you tried pushing off on morphine or hydromorphone? both those can give you heroin like euphoria
but if you've done a lot of skag theres a chance you've used up all your euphoria and now your just going to have to live with getting really stoned lol
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a lot of drugs will give you that euphoria at the beginning. you chase it for the rest of your time using. it wont ever come back probably. do you think its a chance that its you and not the h?
have you tried pushing off on morphine or hydromorphone? both those can give you heroin like euphoria
but if you've done a lot of skag theres a chance you've used up all your euphoria and now your just going to have to live with getting really stoned lol
a sad fate, all good things must come to an end.
try sipping on some DM for a week, seems to help the high.
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whats DM?
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DM is dextromorphene or something like that. It's in cough syrup. I've never done it myself. As for your theory about why I don't have great experiences with heroin these days, I don't think your explanation is right. When I used to do heroin I used to get high very nicely every time, as long as the dope was good. I was never chasing anything. Now, after 30 years of being abstinent, I should, if anything, be more sensitive to it. And also a friend of mine who I've shared my dope with had the same reaction (no euphoria to speak of). So the mystery continues. If I find something which really does it for me, I'll post here.
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I tried a small dash of street H about a week ago. Was interesting to say the least. Add on top a bowl of some fine MJ and experienced quite the buzz. But I won't screw with it anymore. I have too high of an addictive personality. Coke is good enough for me, and even then, I don't have outlets to get it (just whenever it happens to pop up) so I limit myself on the amount I get to enjoy. Usually I stick to natural shit (shrooms, weed, etc). Shit used in it's natural form isn't going to kill you. The processed and hard drugs always have that risk, and I am still enjoying life and this earth and would like to stick around for a little longer.
As far as DM, did that shit a few times in high school. Back with Corcidin or whatever it's called. It was okay, but nothing I would really want to fuck with long term, as there are significant brain traumaus that can come along with it. I will say though that the person I did it with saw a big dump truck and was thoroughly convinced that it was a 50' rodeo bull that was about ready to charge us. Crazy shit.
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go for a nice #4 from south asia then! you will have found that buzz you've been chasing.
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I want to try H but I don't want to be nodding out and shit I just want a nice euphoria.
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I want to try H but I don't want to be nodding out and shit I just want a nice euphoria.
the nods feel wunderbar.
smalls doses of h will give you nice euphoria and you can still hold your eyes open
if you dont have an opiate tolerance and you grab good quality junk, you dont need very much to get a good feeling going on
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Well, Darktime, I would like to get some dope from South Asia (Indochina, the Golden Triangle) but I don't see anyone selling it. Whose dope would you recommend (domestically)?
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I used to get no euphoria either, no matter if it was 80% pure pakistani no.4 straight from the factory or crappy no.3. Note that my ROA had always been IV. But then, I was out of rigs once and decided to try it intranasally. Boy. What a difference. I did not catch a nod, but the HEAVENLY euphoria was absolutely fantastic. Never got anything close to it when IVing. It was like a completely different drug. Strange.
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Well, Darktime, I would like to get some dope from South Asia (Indochina, the Golden Triangle) but I don't see anyone selling it. Whose dope would you recommend (domestically)?
Give GoldenHorse a try. He supposedly has the BEST No.4 (China White) currently available on the road. It is on par with SAWs gear which was tested to be 90+% pure. Additionally, GH's dope is quite cheap considering the quality of his product.
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Well, Darktime, I would like to get some dope from South Asia (Indochina, the Golden Triangle) but I don't see anyone selling it. Whose dope would you recommend (domestically)?
Give GoldenHorse a try. He supposedly has the BEST No.4 (China White) currently available on the road. It is on par with SAWs gear which was tested to be 90+% pure. Additionally, GH's dope is quite cheap considering the quality of his product.
if your looking for euphoria i wouldnt touch the china white listings. the term is sometimes used interchangeably but mostly its fentanyl from china. its very pure and strong as fuck. you will nod out on it no problem. but you wont get the euphoria or warm blanket
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Well, Darktime, I would like to get some dope from South Asia (Indochina, the Golden Triangle) but I don't see anyone selling it. Whose dope would you recommend (domestically)?
Give GoldenHorse a try. He supposedly has the BEST No.4 (China White) currently available on the road. It is on par with SAWs gear which was tested to be 90+% pure. Additionally, GH's dope is quite cheap considering the quality of his product.
if your looking for euphoria i wouldnt touch the china white listings. the term is sometimes used interchangeably but mostly its fentanyl from china. its very pure and strong as fuck. you will nod out on it no problem. but you wont get the euphoria or warm blanket
This product reeks of acetic anhydride, which is the last step in the manufacture of heroin (no fentanyl) and it has the same color,texture and potency as SAWs product which is well known around the SR and (as I stated) was tested to be 90+% pure diacetylmorphine
And if it was really high quality fentanyl, the users would be dead, because a 50mg shot (a good dose of this H for a user with low-medium tolerance) of fentanyl could kill a whale.
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Golden Horse is out of the country (US) and I'm not willing to deal with Customs. He did say however that he is likely to have a reseller in the US, and if he does, I definitely have in mind buying some. I know someone on the forum who has a similar experience of today's dope (that it is not as pleasurable as the dope of the past) who ordered from GH. I'll be interested in what she has to say about it.
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never touched H but this thread is making me curious.
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if you have never tried heroin i would leave it that way . there are not many users that can take it just now and again without any problems , there are some but i would say under 1 percent .
im what you call a functioning addict , i use heroin but get on with my life , keep my house smart food in the cupboards , kids looked after ect ect . and as i say there are not many heroin users that can say that .
yes the high is out of this world but it will get a hold of you without you even knowing and one morning you will wake up all sore and think you have the flu and feel terrible take a bit of H and what you know no more pain and thats you hooked .
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never touched H but this thread is making me curious.
be careful. once your body becomes addicted your fucked. you go from getting high to needing to use to avoid withdrawals. if you havent tried h before and your not already addicted to another opiate i wouldnt play with it. h withdrawals are much worse then oxycontin and they come on much faster. you dont have alot of time from running out to feeling like death which leads a lot of people to turn to crime when they are sick. its not a good road to go down and usually people loose it all. on the scale of feel good opiates, oxycodone is like a 4/10, heroin is a 9-10/10. it feels WAY better, i'm not gonna lie. you want to use a lot more of it, your tolerance builds fast and it doesnt take long before your on the run from the withdrawals. i was clean for 3 years and bought 1 gram. i had no tolerance and i stretched it out over a week using it everyday. four hours after my last dose came the runny nose, 8 hours i was hurting bad. hot flashes, cold sweats, very weak and fatigued, bad muscle/bone aches, could hardly breath if i tried using energy, vomiting and shitting internal organs out and horrible restless legs. couldnt even sit still for 10 seconds. needless to say by hour 12 i was officially back on the junk. off 1 fucking gram for a week. so be very careful. buy in small quanities like a point or .25mg. never use more then a day in a row and leave several days in between doses. you cant let your body get addicted and if you buy a decent sized bag it feels so good its almost impossible not to use it when you have it. takes alot of self control and rarely people can pull it off.
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Stay away from this shit if you've never tried it. You'll spend the rest of your days chasing the dragon. Many lives have been ruined with this shit.
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heroin isnt getting worse. its just changing sources, thats all.
in PR, they cut it with horse tranqs. at least that hasnt hit silk road yet!
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I've got a somewhat different situation but it fits under this subject heading so I'll write it here. I've bought heroin from three different highly recommended vendors. I have no complaints about potency. Each batch was plenty potent. But none of the samples really gave me any pleasure. They all put me on the nod and made me tired, but that's not why I take heroin. The heroin I used to get (decades ago, as I have not used for decades) was very warm and pleasurable. I really enjoyed socializing on it. The current stuff lacks pleasure, in fact, I see no reason for taking it at all. Has heroin changed somehow in recent decades??
Yes I have noticed a change over the decades.
I have come to one solution.
They have started to cut it with Morphine or some such likeness. The stone is not like it used to be at all. I used to have a blast and go to work and socialize, etc.
Now I have a blast and shut myself away.
Anyone else with any clues as to why/how our hammer has changed?
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could be unreacted morphine from the acytl process???
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I've observed the change, no doubt about it, but I cannot for the life of me figure out what would account for it. It is not unreacted morphine because morphine gives an intense pins and needles rush (too intense) and no one has reported that. (I snort so I wouldn't know. It is true that morphine isn't as euphoric as heroin so that is a good guess.
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could be unreacted morphine from the acytl process???
Yes that is sort of what it feels like.
When I cook my own, I sometimes don't have time to take time and get much the same reaction, when I do take the time out to put some time in, I get a very clean heroin type rush.
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Question to heroin users. If someone irl asked if you had tried heroin before would you tell them? just curious if it's something most people try to hide from non users.
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Question to heroin users. If someone irl asked if you had tried heroin before would you tell them? just curious if it's something most people try to hide from non users.
inneresting, in general i would as being open and honest is the way i prefer people to be but i reckon it depends entirely on the type of person asking and why they ask. Some people are more judgemental than receptive.