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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: fucknuts on June 04, 2013, 12:45 am

Title: Unencrypted tracking #
Post by: fucknuts on June 04, 2013, 12:45 am
I'm new to the road so this might be normal procedure but:

I ordered a product, sending my address encrypted with PGP, also including my public key

Vendor sent me back an unencrypted message a few days later with my tracking number (which I did not request)

My question is, isn't this equivalent to sending my address unencrypted??  I would think LE monitoring TOR exit nodes could grab that tracking and easily obtain my address.

Or am I just paranoid??
Title: Re: Unencrypted tracking #
Post by: Arahant on June 04, 2013, 12:48 am
We're in a helicopter over your house right now, COME OUT WITH YOUR HANDS UP!

Nah im kidding, sorry i dont actualy know the answer to your question but if it helps i had a vendor send me a tracking # unencrypted either, also, i dont think you need to send your public key, they can encrypt their message with their own key and send it back, if they wanted to.
Title: Re: Unencrypted tracking #
Post by: woundedvet11 on June 04, 2013, 01:19 am
The tracking number is not evidence of anything illicit in itself. If it were to be intercepted it would not offer even enough information to secure a warrant. Further, a tracking number could simply be anything and typically TOR is very safe even without PGP. PGP is just for those of us with serious privacy issues. The only time I would even worry a little about that tracking number is if it shows the package weighing around 1 kilo as that would be a potential red flag for trafficking, although just marginally more suspicious. You are safe, don't worry.

I provide counter surveillance services for corporations and some individuals who are worried about being spied upon for legal reasons or corporate espionage. I set them up with PGP for all communications even just the more mundane. The idea being, if everything that comes from an IP is encrypted, it looks less suspicious than just the occasional juicy message that just begs for cracking.
I don't use it unless I am discussing business operations.
Title: Re: Unencrypted tracking #
Post by: fucknuts on June 04, 2013, 01:26 am
Thanks for the good info, very much appreciated!
Title: Re: Unencrypted tracking #
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 04, 2013, 01:28 am
None of this ever goes through a exit node.  We are on a hidden service so we don't leave the TOR network.  The vendor should have encrypted the tracking number though.
Title: Re: Unencrypted tracking #
Post by: fucknuts on June 04, 2013, 01:46 am
None of this ever goes through a exit node.  We are on a hidden service so we don't leave the TOR network.  The vendor should have encrypted the tracking number though.

Thanks for the reply.  I was under the impression the data was vulnerable between my computer and where it enters the TOR network.
Title: Re: Unencrypted tracking #
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 04, 2013, 01:51 am
None of this ever goes through a exit node.  We are on a hidden service so we don't leave the TOR network.  The vendor should have encrypted the tracking number though.

Thanks for the reply.  I was under the impression the data was vulnerable between my computer and where it enters the TOR network.

It's encrypted from your computer.  They still should have encrypted the TN, especially when you encrypted your address and provided your public key...