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Title: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: neuronirvana on September 02, 2013, 10:59 am
I have been sold methylone instead of MDMA I think . The vendor holds 5stars.I have read a lot of threads on here and Im almost sure this is the case. I have been taking mdma many many times and I can clearly say the difference in experience. I had to took a bit more to feel the effects. Every time It starts with increased body temperature , heart pounding- my friend even had a chest pain :( it was also very strange aftertaste and mouth feeling, strong jaw clenching, not a strong feeling of euphoria.It was also feeling of disorientation at the beggining. The feeling was very speedy but lacked very characteristic 'magic' of mdma- no changes in perception of music.... The product was sold as a clear/white moonrocks- with very characteristic strong chemical smell and dissolved faster than mdma when taken orally. What do you think? how can I be 100%sure that it was methylone? It pisses me off that people write reviews and cant distinguish between methylone and good mdma. Vendors get excellent reviews but customers suffers .I didint like the feeling and I bought few g of something which doesnt seem to be even close to molly
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: 8447948 on September 02, 2013, 11:41 am
C'est la vie unfortunately mate. Its no a regulated service your buying from here, but its a shame and quite worrying that all of the reviews of the vendors product are positive.

Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: bedtime666 on September 02, 2013, 12:50 pm
The feedback was good because most don't know shit from sunshine on here..
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: neuronirvana on September 02, 2013, 01:13 pm
Probably that is the case.People dont know the difference.I wasnt aware that methylone is being sold so often:( that explains such a cheap price of it on the silk road. We schould write more accurate feedback here so others can be warned
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: n0nc3s on September 02, 2013, 01:54 pm
How about investing in a few reagent tests to keep on hand?  Seems like cheap insurance and a positive way to positively call out a problem substance without the subjectivity of individual experience... Posting the results on here would also serve as either a great recommendation for the vendor or a very valuable warning to would-be buyers. 
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: neuronirvana on September 02, 2013, 05:15 pm
I agree.Definitely will buy one now. However I am sure already of the results :)
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: FoleyFoleyF on September 02, 2013, 05:33 pm
Tell us the results of the tests! We want to know, help out the community so we don't buy from this vendor if his shit is fake.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: cosmictourist on September 02, 2013, 05:56 pm
If you have any of the product left, then get yourself a Mecke reagent test kit and post photos of the results onto the MDMA avengers thread (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=129424.0) as well as onto the vendor's review thread. If you can't post, then send a PM to the thread's OP.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: Judge Bud on September 03, 2013, 12:18 am
About a year ago, there weren't half as many vendors selling misrepresented products. It seems like nowadays people are getting their hands on bullshit, calling it something else, selling it, and getting upset with you for not liking it. DON'T GUESS IT, TEST IT!

-Judge
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: neuronirvana on September 03, 2013, 07:59 pm
You are right Judge Bud :) I will definitely test it. Btw, which tester is the best to test mdma ?
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: Judge Bud on September 03, 2013, 08:24 pm
Marquis Reagent will do you just fine

-Judge
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: cosmictourist on September 03, 2013, 08:39 pm
Judge, is there any reason to buy a Mecke test? I'm sure I read somewhere that there are some chemicals that can pass the Marquis test appearing as MDMA, but would fail the Mecke test.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: raz0r209 on September 03, 2013, 09:13 pm
You could try a testing kit
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: milliday on September 03, 2013, 09:22 pm
Either Marquis or Mecke will give a positive reaction for MDMA and a different color for most cathinones or other chems that get passed off as MDMA. There are a few things that can show up the same color as MDMA and to differentiate between those after testing with Meckee or Marquis you can use Simon's reagent.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: neuronirvana on September 05, 2013, 01:03 pm
Ok, so now it is official . I bought yesterday ez test kit-marquis. I put a sample inside.It gave some smoke and went into black in 2-3 sec. Results : DMX !!! suprise suprise. I thought maybe methylone, I didint now that people can sell such a product.And can you believe that it is selling well ? or maybe it was just me ? because im a newbie? wtf? wake up people and write good feedback and test your stuff if something doesnt feel right !
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: HereXVII on September 05, 2013, 01:57 pm
I second that. Test and leave informative feedback
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: MrsKing on September 05, 2013, 05:09 pm
Damn dude be careful.  Order a regant test, they are like $20 and can tell you instantly.   
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: jimmyfingers on September 05, 2013, 10:55 pm
I am scared to even purchase any MDMA off here.  Bulk research chemicals are very easy and dirt cheap to acquire.  As we all know, many of them produce similar effects to the real thing.  Personally, I would not go by reviews on something like this.  Many people are rating 5/5 just cause they are happy they got something in the mail.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: neuronirvana on September 05, 2013, 11:47 pm
Exactly Jimmyfingers :( It was to beautiful to be true . Prices of MDMA are really cheap, and it is either methylone or DXM. Anyone who is experienced user of Molly and know someone who sells real stuff?
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: slirp on September 06, 2013, 01:32 am
Ok, so now it is official . I bought yesterday ez test kit-marquis. I put a sample inside.It gave some smoke and went into black in 2-3 sec. Results : DMX !!! suprise suprise. I thought maybe methylone, I didint now that people can sell such a product.And can you believe that it is selling well ? or maybe it was just me ? because im a newbie? wtf? wake up people and write good feedback and test your stuff if something doesnt feel right !

Going black in 2-3 seconds in a marquis reagent indicates MDMA.  DXM will also go black but it'll take much longer.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: Weaponstech on September 06, 2013, 02:19 am
damn, thats super sketchy, will you test to confirm?
and if you do can you please update us?
thanks
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: THEDRUGSSPEAKTOME on September 06, 2013, 03:28 am
who was the vendor? :o
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: THEDRUGSSPEAKTOME on September 06, 2013, 03:48 am
Ok, so now it is official . I bought yesterday ez test kit-marquis. I put a sample inside.It gave some smoke and went into black in 2-3 sec. Results : DMX !!! suprise suprise. I thought maybe methylone, I didint now that people can sell such a product.And can you believe that it is selling well ? or maybe it was just me ? because im a newbie? wtf? wake up people and write good feedback and test your stuff if something doesnt feel right !

Going black in 2-3 seconds in a marquis reagent indicates MDMA.  DXM will also go black but it'll take much longer.

Good catch! Op don't know good MDMA from his asshole
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: neuronirvana on September 06, 2013, 08:38 am
Learn more how to use tests slirp :) I used the test because the effects were obviously not MDMA.  I felt strangeness, a bit of disorientation at the beginning, very weird .... all my friends the same. I have been using MDMA for 5 years, never been sold fake molly. I know the stuff so forgive me but I know exactly what I am talking about. And I am far from hyping that is so cool to buy on silk road. I had expected quality stuff as I have seen feedback system and Avengers. But apparently it doesnt help . I bought a test because I wanted to have hard evidence. Mdma gives purple/ dark purple. It was pure black indicating DXM. So then, I went on to read some stories , and yes indeed some effects were really nasty like people reported. especially this high body temperature, feeling in mouth and weirdness.... So yes . it is official. tested. Be careful people and if you never had experience with MDMA buy test kit and test it first. If you had - be honest with yoursef!
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: THEDRUGSSPEAKTOME on September 06, 2013, 09:04 am
Damn, 5 years. Your a molly pro! I figure you would at least have a test kit or something. Seeing as how you didn't even know which one to buy, I'm gonna say you have been eating M1 thinking it was molly, and you don't even like molly, just M1.

Busted!
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: neuronirvana on September 06, 2013, 09:15 am
hehe I dont quite understand your point. If you know someone you getting from why you need test kit? I bought twice from silk road and probably never again :) And molly is not something you can "consume" every day :P   You use it for parties , festivals etc. I tested my stuff once, at Boom festival - and it was pure. If you have your source you are safe ...
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: THEDRUGSSPEAKTOME on September 06, 2013, 09:18 am
hehe I dont quite understand your point. If you know someone you getting from why you need test kit? I bought twice from silk road and probably never again :) And molly is not something you can "consume" every day :P   You use it for parties , festivals etc. I tested my stuff once, at Boom festival - and it was pure. If you have your source you are safe ...

So you "trusted" someone to give you molly? What if the perosn that sold them molly lied?

You stupid as fuck dawg
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: BornSlippy369 on September 06, 2013, 09:18 am
It's disgusting how many different substances are going around being called "molly" that's why it's really important to test your stuff, especially if you plan on ingesting it. Which leads me to my second point:

You have to be careful when seeing a reagent reaction. Sometimes the colors aren't easy to see and the reaction happens quick. It helps to put it on a dish and smear it a little with a tooth pick or something, or make it run so you an see the true color underneath that dark hue. For example, it might look black, but it could just be a really really deep blue/purple which indicates a good marquis reaction for MDXX. The Simmons I believe is the one that confirms it's MDMA and not MDXX. That one turns a light blue, really easy to tell that one, but it isn't very common. Most likely it will be MDMA with a marquis reaction like that. The mecke would go to a similar very very dark blue but would be green for the first few seconds. You'll start to learn your reactions =) you can start with just a marquis like I did, but it really pays to get all the reagents so you can know for sure what you have and cross confirm the reactions. I hope this helps!
experience: raving for several years, testing my stuff, knowing my stuff, respecting what I put in my body.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: neuronirvana on September 06, 2013, 09:34 am
THEDRUGSSPEAKTOME , listen to yourself, you came out of nowhere, and call me stupid and liar , look at the mirror :)
maybe you still want to know the vendors name? ;)) good luck buddy with your life philosophy :)


Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: neuronirvana on September 06, 2013, 09:36 am
BornSlippy369, I agree 100 %
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: slirp on September 06, 2013, 01:55 pm
Learn more how to use tests slirp :) I used the test because the effects were obviously not MDMA.  I felt strangeness, a bit of disorientation at the beginning, very weird .... all my friends the same. I have been using MDMA for 5 years, never been sold fake molly. I know the stuff so forgive me but I know exactly what I am talking about. And I am far from hyping that is so cool to buy on silk road. I had expected quality stuff as I have seen feedback system and Avengers. But apparently it doesnt help . I bought a test because I wanted to have hard evidence. Mdma gives purple/ dark purple. It was pure black indicating DXM. So then, I went on to read some stories , and yes indeed some effects were really nasty like people reported. especially this high body temperature, feeling in mouth and weirdness.... So yes . it is official. tested. Be careful people and if you never had experience with MDMA buy test kit and test it first. If you had - be honest with yoursef!

I don't know what substance you have and believe me I'm as frustrated as anyone about non-MDMA getting sold as MDMA.  That said the vast majority of MDMA sold on SR is MDMA or at least it has been until recently. If we've got a few bad vendors then definitely lets identify those vendors can get their vendor status revoked.

As for your reagent test I was simply letting you know that good MDMA goes black quickly.  For DXM it takes time, much more than 2-3 seconds.  Even wikipedia says this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_reagent
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: slirp on September 06, 2013, 02:09 pm

Every time It starts with increased body temperature , heart pounding- my friend even had a chest pain :( it was also very strange aftertaste and mouth feeling, strong jaw clenching, not a strong feeling of euphoria.It was also feeling of disorientation at the beggining. The feeling was very speedy but lacked very characteristic 'magic' of mdma- no changes in perception of music.... The product was sold as a clear/white moonrocks- with very characteristic strong chemical smell and dissolved faster than mdma when taken orally.

Much of this doesn't sound like DXM.  Moonrocks are typical for M1 and MDMA but not DXM (somebody please speak up if I'm wrong).  Strong jaw clenching definitely doesn't rule out MDMA; is that even a side effect of DXM?

Good MDMA will also dissolve very quickly in water as the MDMA molecule itself is very easily water soluble.  M1 also dissolved easily in water but you've now ruled out M1 after that reagent test.

Again I don't know if you have MDMA or something else but just pointing these things out.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: neuronirvana on September 06, 2013, 06:59 pm
I understand. But the reaction for DXM was exactly as described in the internet and indeed it gets sold as molly unfortunately.Maybe it was mixed with something. I remember first time taking it ... there was a feeling of the paranoia at the beggining- which suprised me cos i dont get it on molly. Then first effects wore out very quickly. It dosent happen that 1 g of molly disapears so quickly.... We had also a strong headache on the other day ...the weird and horrible aftertaste in mouth like after speed .
We can discuss and discuss about what it was... I know what effects molly gives - I have said it 1000times. It wont change the fact that someone here sells fake stuff- either selectively or for everyone. The reason why I put this topic up - is that I want to help others and not let this guy sell the shit anymore. Today I sent the message to the vendor, he ignored me. The vendors name is Technohippy. I was happy customer with him. He is speedy, responsive , I was happy with the pills I bought from him previously- they were as described. However just because someone has a good reputation and is 5 star vendor - doesnt mean I have to keep my mouth shut. Nobody wants to get some shit and feel horrible.You can do whatever you want with this information but please stop try to convince that it was MDMA. I think it schould be reported or checked by someone else and forbiden to sell. or at least properly called - like " a mixture of DXM and other shit " for those who like horrible trips
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: Weaponstech on September 06, 2013, 07:35 pm
who was the vendor? :o
Thats what I want to know.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: slirp on September 06, 2013, 07:52 pm
I understand. But the reaction for DXM was exactly as described in the internet and indeed it gets sold as molly unfortunately.Maybe it was mixed with something. I remember first time taking it ... there was a feeling of the paranoia at the beggining- which suprised me cos i dont get it on molly. Then first effects wore out very quickly. It dosent happen that 1 g of molly disapears so quickly.... We had also a strong headache on the other day ...the weird and horrible aftertaste in mouth like after speed .
We can discuss and discuss about what it was... I know what effects molly gives - I have said it 1000times. It wont change the fact that someone here sells fake stuff- either selectively or for everyone. The reason why I put this topic up - is that I want to help others and not let this guy sell the shit anymore. Today I sent the message to the vendor, he ignored me. The vendors name is Technohippy. I was happy customer with him. He is speedy, responsive , I was happy with the pills I bought from him previously- they were as described. However just because someone has a good reputation and is 5 star vendor - doesnt mean I have to keep my mouth shut. Nobody wants to get some shit and feel horrible.You can do whatever you want with this information but please stop try to convince that it was MDMA. I think it schould be reported or checked by someone else and forbiden to sell. or at least properly called - like " a mixture of DXM and other shit " for those who like horrible trips

While turning black in 2-3 seconds indicates MDMA there certainly could have been something else such as DXM in the mix as well.

I've had such good luck with MDMA on the road really sorry to hear about some recent problems.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: slirp on September 06, 2013, 07:59 pm
who was the vendor? :o
Thats what I want to know.

The vendors name is Technohippy.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: neuronirvana on September 06, 2013, 08:00 pm
Hey thanks Slirp :) I dont know, But I have read different opinion about it. doesnt matter. If you had good experiences maybe you could pm me with the names of famous good vendors?
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: neuronirvana on September 06, 2013, 08:05 pm
BTW, taken from the EZ test website :
What DXM does…
- A high dose will cause users to feel very spacey and “out of it”. It impairs motor control and causes robot-like movements. It can also produce audio and visual hallucinations, and can sometimes cause nausea and itchy skin.
- Some people use DXM recreationally. When they do, they nearly always do it at home, in bed or on their couch.
- DXM is definitely not a dance drug, and getting scammed with a DXM tablet when you are expecting ecstasy (xtc) is no fun at all.
- It can also be quite dangerous. High doses of DXM have contributed to numerous cases of rave-related heatstroke.
- It is even more dangerous to combined DXM with real Ecstasy. Both drugs are metabolized through the same liver enzyme, CYP-2D6 (pronounced “sip-two-dee-six), which means that if you combine them together your liver will not be able to break them down as efficiently as it should. This can lead to significantly heightened effects from the DXM, and a much greater chance of suffering a heatstroke reaction.
- Taking breaks from dancing, and staying hydrated are always the best ways to reduce the risk of heatstroke at a rave. If you think you may have accidentally consumed a pill containing DXM, however, you should probably not dance at all, and should stay in a cool environment. Have some friends watch out for you, and chill out for the evening.
- Remember, your chances of heatstroke are greater if you have consumed DXM, and greatest if you have consumed both MDMA and DXM together.

Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: frank-butcher24 on September 06, 2013, 08:18 pm
Hmm Technohippy is it? That's a pretty well respected vendor. Hopefully they will visit this thread and respond.

I haven't bought any MDMA from SR for over a year, but I always got excellent quality. My reagent tests (marquis) always went straight to dark purple/black, sometimes with a little fizz and smoke.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: slirp on September 06, 2013, 08:30 pm
Hey thanks Slirp :) I dont know, But I have read different opinion about it. doesnt matter. If you had good experiences maybe you could pm me with the names of famous good vendors?

My favorite MDMA vendors are Full Escrow UK and CloudSurfer.  Both have the very best stealth and product but at this very moment neither of them appear to have stock.

The vendors shipping out of Germany typically have good product but I'm convinced the DEA is working with German authorities right now.  Groups of packages from numerous vendors over there have gone missing recently.  Most of them don't take stealth seriously enough either.

I've you're looking for US domestic then I'm just not sure.  I guess it is always a bit of a gamble.

Recently methylone has become far more popular on SR for some reason.  Even though I enjoy methylone it really is a shame it is so often sold as "molly."
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: The Bubble Dreamer on September 07, 2013, 01:47 am
It's a bit like horse meat being sold at cow meat ;-) Nothing wrong with horse meat, it's actually quite tasty, but it sucks to be sold something that isn't what it was said to be.

I recently discovered methylone, and I like it a lot. Different from mdma, for sure, but it definitely has it's own attraction. But it did make me realize that (pre-SR) I have been taking methylone as mdma sometimes.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: Keys3r Soze on September 07, 2013, 01:58 am
This happens locally a lot, always gotta have those marquis tests, well worth the price on amazon.  I would say that methylone is actually a lot more fun and certainly easier to sell than MDMA, it's like have two products in one..  There is a certain acid you can use to make lone test like mdma, or anything for that matter, there are defnitely ways around the marquis but they don't pop up much
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: JackJarvisEsq on September 07, 2013, 02:11 am
Hmm Technohippy is it? That's a pretty well respected vendor. Hopefully they will visit this thread and respond.

I haven't bought any MDMA from SR for over a year, but I always got excellent quality. My reagent tests (marquis) always went straight to dark purple/black, sometimes with a little fizz and smoke.

Does it say TH anywhere in thread? i didnt see it...I recently ordered MDMA from him and it was absolutely MDMA.

infact vs all the UK vendors iv tried, about 3-4, this was the best quality stuff.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: hallucinating horse on September 07, 2013, 05:28 am
I have taken both DXM and MDMA (duh).

You should know without a doubt that if you had taken DXM it was not MDMA. DXM always made my head itch.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: neuronirvana on September 07, 2013, 01:50 pm
hallucinating horse, yes... the head was terrible next day. but I still was thinking: no, 5star vendor, fast, efficient, it is not possible, it is low quality mdma. In matter of fact on his vendor page it says : "good quality mdma"- good , not excellent like most of them claims here, so I took it as a honesty that the product is good but not top notch. Until I tested it and had to admit it : I was sold shit. And it is not subjective opinion, but confirmed by 7 of my friends
JackJarvisEsq, I believe there is plenty of good MDMA here, you just have to now where to buy it. I dont know how they sell shit sometimes. I have seen 5star vendors pages here where 2 on 10 people gets shit instead of the product and nobody cares. Life is Life.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: KingKongBundy on September 07, 2013, 03:10 pm
Not on SR, but this July on the east coast, Methylone was being sold EVERYWHERE as MDMA or real MoonRocks (of the MDMA kind).  What an awful feeling.  I got bathsalt'd (as we call it), and surprisingly enough the person who was nice enough to screw us over has not shown his face around.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: neuronirvana on September 07, 2013, 04:03 pm
It worries me now, lets keep fingers crossed that methylone will not replace mdma .since when it became so superfamous to do buisness like that? btw, just read a thread somewhere that vendor that is placed in 1% of highest ranks sells selectively methylone and other stuff like dxm cut with mdma and god knows what else Definietely it doesnt make me optimistic about shopping here. How does it work here? What is the procedure to report the vendor if he continuosly sells shit to people? or they do get away with it?  If we could report such people , maybe they could improve quality of their services or at least dont sell fake stuff.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: neuronirvana on September 10, 2013, 11:02 am
I cant believe how incredible the arrogance of these vendors is. The guy replied after few days to me and said that I can write whatever I like and his ratings speak for themselves . Unfortunately people leave feedback before they test the product- that was also my mistake . they leave 5 cos it was quick and came with incredible stealth,  but what about the product itself? Be aware people
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: Bigsmokejay on September 10, 2013, 11:17 am
Psh, these people should be ashamed of themselves. People who cut their product/sell other products then they put on their listing deserve some kind of punishment in my opinion...
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: suffix on September 10, 2013, 11:47 am
experience has nowt to do with it, i have been doing mdma since 1992 and i almost managed to kill my friend and myself this year after having brought a large rock of pma from what was in theory a trusted source......home testing is obv the way forward and dont trust the source or even your own senses.....the shit looked tasted and snorted right.....but it wasnt right.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: Belkamide on September 11, 2013, 07:11 am
Really? PMA that looked and tasted like mdma? I have not heard of this, the PMA i have heard about was always already in pills, or as a white crystalline laboratory-grade looking product.

Could you describe it in detail, the experienmce, anything that occurs to you?
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: dropout49 on September 11, 2013, 10:00 am
Not good when people are selling duff gear!
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: bobhope333 on September 11, 2013, 11:55 am
I find this whole scenario sketchy, the OP has not done a definitive test, this is all purely speculation, in view of this, I think it is very unfair to publicly name the vendor, who I have followed since they came onto SR, I actually did a review on the E tablets and have since purchased a few items, all have been fairly priced and Technohippy have shown themselves as being principled vendors with good ethics, I find it very doubtful that they would pull such a stroke, when they have so much to loose- many people on here either test their drugs themselves or take them to an official tester, I'm sure somebody else would have raised this issue before now. Just because it is easy to buy these tests, it does not mean just anybody can pick one up and correctly use one without having been trained and having gained experience in previously testing known samples of drugs, then noting the reactions.
Of course, this is my speculation, but nothing I have read here suggests any truth in the OP's opening statement!
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: suffix on September 11, 2013, 04:46 pm
Really? PMA that looked and tasted like mdma? I have not heard of this, the PMA i have heard about was always already in pills, or as a white crystalline laboratory-grade looking product.

Could you describe it in detail, the experienmce, anything that occurs to you?

It was a single large crystal with a very slight pink hugh, it crushed straight to a good white powder which probably clouded my judgement as properly made mdma should be white and its been years since i had got a proper batch ( 1993 being the last time i saw real properly washed mdma. ) the first warning sign i ignored looking back was it crushed to easily without fracturing.

   i snorted a small line, it hurt more than usual but the buzz was right, light feet slight euphoria ( can euphoria ever be slight? ) anyway i later dropped a bomb with a friend ( a large eight of a gram )
the come up was quick and we both had the same result ( much more severe in my friend. ) strong and unpleasant trip, angseity and high temperature fluctuations.

took about three hrs to get back in hand and the comedown was desolate for apprx 15 hrs.

so. to look out for, clean crystal, crushes too easily ( can just about crush with fingers ) painful almost acid burn to nose and lips.

reading back it seems obvious it wasnt straight but i suppose its the first time in 20 odd years i have been sold a substitute, getting a dud is one thing but this stuff is proving deadly so keep safe.

i should add that to the best of my knowledge it did not come from this site and the lesson i have learned is to always source my own shit.

apologies for the poor spelling.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: the artful dodger on September 11, 2013, 04:54 pm
I test everything when using home tested use both of them, and use your senses, how does it smell is the color right are the crystals formed right, I am lucky to have access to a gas spectrometer, tell your exactly what is what and you get to feel like a mad scientist for a minute, provides print outs and everything.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: neuronirvana on September 11, 2013, 08:48 pm
The reason for opening this thread was to warn other people. I think I made myself clear enough. Technohippy is a vendor here for 4 months- not very long time I suppose. I have found him and was very pleased to buy his product.  I was really happy with the price - 26£ for a gr of good quality MDMA. and the speed of delivery. I cant complain about that. I tried turtles- not the strongest pills I had but no hangover, nice, euphoric feeling . But his mdma? I couldnt believe at the beggining and thought that maybe it is just my imagination or something. But I will repeat : I felt really horrible after this product. nothing really even close to mdma. It was more speedy, sweaty feeling with a bit of desorientation. I tested the product as I wanted to know the truth and I have found out.
At the beggining when I wasnt sure I didint reveal vendors name. I sent a message to the vendor , I was ignored. After a while he said that all of his stuff is lab-tested (the picture of mdma on his page is not the same like the product that was sold to me) and it is just me complaining.Today he even "threatened" to me that I will be blacklisted as I user . So in this case do I have any rights as a buyer? I pay money for the product - get shit , leave a honest feedback and get banned? It schould speak for itself.
Technohippy is a businessmen here , he makes money. Maybe his business is efficient, he doesnt scamm, delivers very fast but his MDMA product is not as described .Maybe I was just the only person that got this shitty product, or maybe he sends it selectively- I dont know...
But I do know that people have right to know- that is the reason for this forum to exist, so we share information, experiences and support each other. I dont buy fake perfums here , but something that I put into my body !  I have no interest to lie here. Go ahead and buy it and test it yourself !



Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: neuronirvana on September 11, 2013, 09:02 pm
bobhope333, nothing suggest truth? how you can know than? so what about the whole idea of feedback here? Schould I be a chemist to be allowed to post my opinions about the product I had from here? Nobody forces you to believe. Do whatever you like with the information here. I guarantee you- it is for a good reason . Stay safe!
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: warriorsdance on September 13, 2013, 11:49 am
Been a lurker on these forums for a while and a customer on the main site for just over a year but this thread made me sign up.

I've made a couple of orders for MDMA from Technohippy, one back in July and a larger one a couple of weeks back. I therefore have samples from their newest batch as well as the previous one. The previous batch is an exceptionally clean / pure looking crystal, the newest also not far off in purity. Both batches look like good clean MD and while not personally tried by myself, my friends have heaped praise on the product as being much better than the street stuff going around here (well-known northern UK town).

I just picked up two EZ Test kits (Marquis) today and tested both batches. Both kits turned instantly dark purple - black with a fizz / pop and emission of smoke. Total reaction time less than two seconds.

I have photos of both tests but I can't seem to find a working anonymous Tor image hosting service to upload these to. If anyone could post a link here of a working service then I'll get these up ASAP.

Ergo, I conclude that the OP is either a. inexperienced with MDMA / the MDMA testing procedure or b. a shill for another vendor.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: neuronirvana on September 13, 2013, 12:39 pm
Warriorsdance... are you working for Technohippy? :)) If not I think you have been  exceptionally lucky to get such a quality product, unfortunately it seems that some people still get shit instead of MDMA... And I think that either you were very lucky- just some people get a real stuff from him, or your comments are just a very common strategy to encourage new customers despite my negative comments. Why you assume I am inexperienced MDMA user or I work for another vendor? Havent you read the thread carefully? Your opinion given here clearly suggest you want to discredit my comments so others dont take them too seriously.
I would also want to try his best quality product, unfortunately I have had occasion to do it twice already ... and I will never buy again. From what I have observed there is a lot of fake comments and fake users around in interests of some vendors who unfortunately has to use this tactic...
Be aware people... and read carefully a thread :)
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: warriorsdance on September 13, 2013, 01:16 pm
I'm definitely not working for him/her/them, I'm just a customer who has used this vendor before and, on seeing this thread, decided to test the merchandise for myself out of concern for myself and my friends.

I'm not denying that legit, top 1% vendors have in the past sold dodgy gear either intentionally or unintentionally, but the quantity of stuff Technohippy seems to move would suggest that if they had a shady batch going on they'd do anything they could to rectify this for the customer.

This is only pure speculation, and I don't really want to discuss things that may or may not be true, but the quantity and type of a certain product Technohippy sells regularly leads me to think that they may well have a secure and regular source for some of the best MD being produced at the moment. Not quite Mortak Kombat / Partyflock / Android quality MD but still above a lot of the shit that gets passed off as MD nowadays.

Again, I have pictures of the samples / tests which I'm happy to upload providing someone can point me to a secure and anonymous Tor image hosting service.
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA
Post by: bobhope333 on September 13, 2013, 03:15 pm
Learn more how to use tests slirp :) I used the test because the effects were obviously not MDMA.  I felt strangeness, a bit of disorientation at the beginning, very weird .... all my friends the same. I have been using MDMA for 5 years, never been sold fake molly. I know the stuff so forgive me but I know exactly what I am talking about. And I am far from hyping that is so cool to buy on silk road. I had expected quality stuff as I have seen feedback system and Avengers. But apparently it doesnt help . I bought a test because I wanted to have hard evidence. Mdma gives purple/ dark purple. It was pure black indicating DXM. So then, I went on to read some stories , and yes indeed some effects were really nasty like people reported. especially this high body temperature, feeling in mouth and weirdness.... So yes . it is official. tested. Be careful people and if you never had experience with MDMA buy test kit and test it first. If you had - be honest with yoursef!

Ermmmm......Hang on a minute, 3 days ago, you admitted you had never used any tester before, but now you are an authority on them:
Quote: "Learn more how to use tests slirp :)"
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: neuronirvana on September 13, 2013, 04:16 pm
:) I meant instruction on the test . I am not authority and never claimed to be. I will repeat: read the thread carefully ! test was just to confirm my feelings and I have a whole bag of this shit to test it again. I was definitely stoned but the difference between MDMA and this is like from the earth to the moon :)
I replied to your message just to state that the forum is clearly to give feedback and help each other. Those who "think" , will know how to use this information, and some others will try to discredit my opinion ... I would personally really wanted to know what is sold "out there" :)
And as far as I am concerned it is not a sunday market so we schould be careful even more. ..
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: neuronirvana on September 13, 2013, 04:35 pm
Warriorsdance.... again... I tested the stuff as well. I had two different batches from him- but just the last one got tested. With the first one- we had just 1 g for a party - it dissapered very quickly- now I know why- it never had the real potency of MDMA and was totally different substance- thus the strangness of the trip/ the effects were very the same as the last one. However I am not the person that is seeking for a problem.I gave Technohippys great feedback and ordered another 3.5 g - I really more looked into it as it was my subjective trip - but it wasnt , how I was about to find out. I would really want to believe that he wasnt aware he is selling this or accidentaly someone gave him this fucked up batch , but it happend and this is my story. Vendor clearly didint care about what happend , he wasnt willing to even dissuss it with me- on contrary - he said he will report me - and I will be blacklisted as a user.
Maybe some people get MDMA from his legit source , but unfortunately it wasnt me - twice. I am not saying he is selling it to everyone- how the hell can I know? I am reporting what happened to me. I think personally it is important.
I also have pictures and I am willing to send to anyone who is curious. I can test it again using different tester even.
I dont see the reason to argue about it here. People asked me to test it  and to reveal vendors name - I did it. I didint go stright away and put a vendors name in a thread to flash around. I patientlly waited to test it, to speak to the vendor. I was really pissed off.I trusted him - whatever trust means here :)
If you 100% sure he sells the best stuff- thats great :) congratulations , lucky you ... Like I said let everybody judge what to do with the information I have given here :)
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: bobhope333 on September 13, 2013, 07:44 pm
I just try to provide a balanced "voice of reason", I can understand the way you feel about the way your complaint has been handled, what I do know, is that when I did a tester, the other person that signed up for a tester, tried to extort drugs out of them by threatening to claim the pill in question was fake. Every day on these forums, there are blackmail/scammer/extortion attempts, I can well believe that this may the reason for the "attitude", although it doesn't forgive it!

This is what Alexander Shulgin, a medicinal chemist, biochemist, pharmacologist, psychopharmacologist,  has to say on the subject of the Marquis Reagent and MDMA:

"The Marquis reagent is a spot test for alkaloids that was first reported in 1896. The original testing agent was a mixture of 2 drops of 40% formaldehyde and 3 milliliters of concentrated sulfuric acid. It was originally used for detecting small amounts of certain alkaloids, and for distinguishing between them. The signature of the alkaloid is both the initial color produced, as well as the sequence of color changes occurring with time. In the early days the Marquis reagent was used primarily to distinguish the opium alkaloids. Each alkaloid had a pattern of color change. It is being used today as one of the identifying tools in trying to establish just what may be present in something that is sold as ecstasy. The compounds in the MDA, MDMA, MDE family give a purple-black color, whereas with amphetamine the color is usually an orange brown."

and in particular:

"As the test is extremely sensitive, no estimate can be easily made as to the quantity of alkaloid present. And of course, a dark color will tend to hide a light color. As with all assays requiring subjective interpretation, experience is everything. Unfortunately, with our present restrictive stance on Scheduled drugs, it is almost impossible to get documented reference samples of alkaloids of interest, further limiting the accuracy of this kind of field tests."
Title: Re: methylone sold as MDMA ( stuff tested : DXM )
Post by: neuronirvana on September 14, 2013, 04:00 pm
bobhope333, thanks for being a "voice of reason"and understanding. Now, I understand your point. Obviously I understand the whole "issue" with testing....
However , like I said many times, dosent matter what it was , it wasnt molly for sure :)