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Title: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: frank88 on August 13, 2013, 08:40 am
IV dosage on Methylone?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on August 13, 2013, 08:47 am
Many people do.  I have never done it.  I hear it is very addicting and you will keep compulsively re dosing.  I know of people who have spent many hours re dosing methylone intravenously.
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: ModerationIsK3y on August 13, 2013, 10:30 am
IV dosage on Methylone?
Thanks.

Start with 60mg in .2-.3ml water (all you need is .3ml, max) and work your way up 10-20mg at a time.  It's extremely intense for the first few minutes and short-lived altogether, so re-dosing is usually desired at 45-90 minutes.

I've never banged more than 120mg in one rig, nor have I done more than .7g in a session.

Once you boot M1, you'll never swallow it again.
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: frank88 on August 13, 2013, 04:02 pm
IV dosage on Methylone?
Thanks.

Start with 60mg in .2-.3ml water (all you need is .3ml, max) and work your way up 10-20mg at a time.  It's extremely intense for the first few minutes and short-lived altogether, so re-dosing is usually desired at 45-90 minutes.

I've never banged more than 120mg in one rig, nor have I done more than .7g in a session.

Once you boot M1, you'll never swallow it again.
That is a big difference in between 60~120mg per shot?
And .7g in a session? That is about 6~7 shots in 120mg per shot.
So you get tempted to IV yourself 6~7 times in a period of 6~9 hours?
That sounds very addictive. Any side effects or bad trips after dosing .7g?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on August 13, 2013, 04:05 pm
People re dose a lot more than that when IVing methylone.  They will go for 24+ hours if they have the supply...
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: Tommychongthevendor on August 13, 2013, 04:14 pm
I used to live with my someone who had a stripper GF who would bang mephedrone and she got some nasty ass sores and would have like 14-20hour shooting sessions banging like 3grams and would be mega zapped out I hazard to guess methylone would be a wee bit milder but would still really twack you out and be crazy "more-ish" like most drugs
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: CannabisCrusader on August 14, 2013, 04:20 am
People re dose a lot more than that when IVing methylone.  They will go for 24+ hours if they have the supply...

Damn, that's gotta be awful for your body...
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: ModerationIsK3y on August 15, 2013, 06:14 pm
IV dosage on Methylone?
Thanks.

Start with 60mg in .2-.3ml water (all you need is .3ml, max) and work your way up 10-20mg at a time.  It's extremely intense for the first few minutes and short-lived altogether, so re-dosing is usually desired at 45-90 minutes.

I've never banged more than 120mg in one rig, nor have I done more than .7g in a session.

Once you boot M1, you'll never swallow it again.
That is a big difference in between 60~120mg per shot?
And .7g in a session? That is about 6~7 shots in 120mg per shot.
So you get tempted to IV yourself 6~7 times in a period of 6~9 hours?
That sounds very addictive. Any side effects or bad trips after dosing .7g?
Thanks.

NEVER start with more than 60mg!  An opening IV dose of 120mg could be deadly, if the batch is particularly speedy, which some are.

No side affects except insomnia if you get a really amped-up batch.

IV M1 is nothing compared to IV Coke as far as being "more-ish".  Apparently you've never...
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: slirp on August 15, 2013, 06:31 pm
Compulsive redosing.  Very hard to stop, even for somebody that has good self control with drugs.
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: frank88 on August 15, 2013, 06:52 pm
very scary!!!
Is MDMA also can be IV'd?
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: slirp on August 15, 2013, 07:12 pm
very scary!!!
Is MDMA also can be IV'd?

Absolutely.  I've done it, although I generally stick to intramuscular injection as a compromise.

Anything that is water soluble can IVed I suppose, although some drugs can be harmful to the veins...even Rx drugs such as phenergan which need to be significantly diluted and pushed slowed to IV safely.
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: frank88 on August 16, 2013, 04:21 am
Is Methylone also be tested as Meth in the lab or reagent test?
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: junjo on August 16, 2013, 04:30 am
Is Methylone also be tested as Meth in the lab or reagent test?
no. they're quite different structurally.
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on August 16, 2013, 04:48 am
Is Methylone also be tested as Meth in the lab or reagent test?
no. they're quite different structurally.

I'm not so sure.  Mephedrone tests positive for methamphetamine on a field test. :-\
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: junjo on August 16, 2013, 05:05 am
Is Methylone also be tested as Meth in the lab or reagent test?
no. they're quite different structurally.

I'm not so sure.  Mephedrone tests positive for methamphetamine on a field test. :-\
Methylone has a methylenedioxy group unlike meth or mephedrone though.  Since it's a very reactive group, I would assume it would have quite a distinct signature from a traditional amphetamine or a methyl-substituted cathinone
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on August 16, 2013, 05:10 am
Is Methylone also be tested as Meth in the lab or reagent test?
no. they're quite different structurally.

I'm not so sure.  Mephedrone tests positive for methamphetamine on a field test. :-\
Methylone has a methylenedioxy group unlike meth or mephedrone though.  Since it's a very reactive group, I would assume it would have quite a distinct signature from a traditional amphetamine or a methyl-substituted cathinone

As I said, I'm not sure.  I just know that MDMA and mephedrone test positive on methamphetamine field tests so I think that bk-MDMA might too.  I really don't know though.
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: junjo on August 16, 2013, 05:29 am
Just out of curiousity, what "field tests" are you referring to? Because i know for a fact that mdma, methylone and methamphetamine all have completely different signatures in marquis reagent tests.
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: frank88 on August 16, 2013, 06:02 am
I'd like to know what kind of field test Customs do as well??
What specific Kit they use?
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: junjo on August 16, 2013, 06:07 am
I'd like to know what kind of field test Customs do as well??
What specific Kit they use?
ahh, did some research and it turns out the department of justice dose use the marquis reagent :)
it's truly quite the versatile test
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on August 16, 2013, 07:21 am
Just out of curiousity, what "field tests" are you referring to? Because i know for a fact that mdma, methylone and methamphetamine all have completely different signatures in marquis reagent tests.

The ones they use on the street when they find you with a substance.  They turn blue I believe.  Also, a popular kid in the RC scene that was importing kilograms of mephedrone from China a couple years ago was snitched on by the admin of LHG (a clearnet forum that he vended his drugs on) for not paying him money and giving free drugs in return for nothing.  He told the police that he was importing kilograms of drugs in the mail.  They intercepted a package of mephedrone and it field tested as methamphetamine by US customs.  Lots of news articles about it.  His username was zramboo and his real name was Zechariah Rambo.  Yes his username WAS his the initial of his first name followed by his REAL last name.  Yes he posted pictures of himself on facebook with several thousands of dollars in his high school bathroom.  Yes he claimed on his facebook that he was a multimillionaire by the age of 18.  No one ever said that he was a genius.

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Warrants turn up more details on trio facing meth trafficking charges

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New details have emerged in the case of three Raleigh men charged with methamphetamine trafficking following a search of the trio's residence.

Arrest records show Joseph Dennis Rambo, 47, Zechariah Rashad Rambo, 19 and Elijah Khalid Rambo, 17 were arrested Tuesday at 1513 Roaring Rapids Road. All three were charged with one count each of conspiracy to traffic meth. Zechariah faces additional charges, with one count of the manufacture of meth and one count of maintaining a dwelling place for keeping and selling the drug.

A search warrant for the case said the Raleigh Police Department became interested in the residence after six suspicious parcels were seized between July 21 and July 23 from a Ship on Site located at 1030-107 Rogers Lane. Inspectors traced the packages to 5500 Creek Crossing Drive in Midlothian, Va., an address registered to Zechariah. The intercepted parcels contained trafficking amounts of meth addressed to various parties throughout the country.

Police next obtained a forwarding address, coming up with the Raleigh house. The report said surveillance found Zechariah coming and going from the house, as well as a car with Virginia plates. The car and house are registered to Zina Rambo.

Police inspectors and a K-9 unit searched the house Tuesday afternoon after obtaining a search warrant. The record said officers at the scene encountered hazardous chemicals, at which point a drug expert wearing a respirator and protective gloves completed the search. Several as yet unidentified liquids, crystals, powders and plants were seized in the raid. Several Ziploc baggies were found with materials testing positive in the field for meth.

All three Rambos appeared at the Wake County Courthouse Wednesday morning. Zechariah's bond is set at $3 million while the other two men have bond set at $1 million. Their charges concern the alleged trafficking of 400 or more grams of meth, a crime which contains the state's harshest penalties for trafficking the narcotic.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/07/29/603095/warrants-turn-up-more-details.html


I also know of some other cases where mephedrone tested positive as methamphetamine by police and US customs.  I wasn't sure if I remembered a case of methylone testing positive or not.  I know for a fact that methamphetamine tests positive as MDMA on a field test.
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: junjo on August 16, 2013, 07:45 am
did some more research again and it looks like mephedrone is hard to distinguish from meth on the tests
there ya go
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on August 16, 2013, 07:51 am
did some more research again and it looks like mephedrone is hard to distinguish from meth on the tests
there ya go

I knew that as a fact as I said.  It comes up as methamphetamine.  You could have just read my post above your post. ;D
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: flashblock v2 on August 16, 2013, 10:27 am
IV dosage on Methylone?
Thanks.

I have IV'd methylone in the past, 100mg to 150mg is easily tolerable.  Not very satisfying, in my opinion. Very lackluster, not worth it... then again thats what i think about M1 via any route.  Very short lived.
Title: Re: Methylone Anyone tried this IV?
Post by: slirp on August 16, 2013, 02:30 pm
Just out of curiousity, what "field tests" are you referring to? Because i know for a fact that mdma, methylone and methamphetamine all have completely different signatures in marquis reagent tests.

The ones they use on the street when they find you with a substance.  They turn blue I believe.  Also, a popular kid in the RC scene that was importing kilograms of mephedrone from China a couple years ago was snitched on by the admin of LHG (a clearnet forum that he vended his drugs on) for not paying him money and giving free drugs in return for nothing.  He told the police that he was importing kilograms of drugs in the mail.  They intercepted a package of mephedrone and it field tested as methamphetamine by US customs.  Lots of news articles about it.  His username was zramboo and his real name was Zechariah Rambo.  Yes his username WAS his the initial of his first name followed by his REAL last name.  Yes he posted pictures of himself on facebook with several thousands of dollars in his high school bathroom.  Yes he claimed on his facebook that he was a multimillionaire by the age of 18.  No one ever said that he was a genius.

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Warrants turn up more details on trio facing meth trafficking charges

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New details have emerged in the case of three Raleigh men charged with methamphetamine trafficking following a search of the trio's residence.

Arrest records show Joseph Dennis Rambo, 47, Zechariah Rashad Rambo, 19 and Elijah Khalid Rambo, 17 were arrested Tuesday at 1513 Roaring Rapids Road. All three were charged with one count each of conspiracy to traffic meth. Zechariah faces additional charges, with one count of the manufacture of meth and one count of maintaining a dwelling place for keeping and selling the drug.

A search warrant for the case said the Raleigh Police Department became interested in the residence after six suspicious parcels were seized between July 21 and July 23 from a Ship on Site located at 1030-107 Rogers Lane. Inspectors traced the packages to 5500 Creek Crossing Drive in Midlothian, Va., an address registered to Zechariah. The intercepted parcels contained trafficking amounts of meth addressed to various parties throughout the country.

Police next obtained a forwarding address, coming up with the Raleigh house. The report said surveillance found Zechariah coming and going from the house, as well as a car with Virginia plates. The car and house are registered to Zina Rambo.

Police inspectors and a K-9 unit searched the house Tuesday afternoon after obtaining a search warrant. The record said officers at the scene encountered hazardous chemicals, at which point a drug expert wearing a respirator and protective gloves completed the search. Several as yet unidentified liquids, crystals, powders and plants were seized in the raid. Several Ziploc baggies were found with materials testing positive in the field for meth.

All three Rambos appeared at the Wake County Courthouse Wednesday morning. Zechariah's bond is set at $3 million while the other two men have bond set at $1 million. Their charges concern the alleged trafficking of 400 or more grams of meth, a crime which contains the state's harshest penalties for trafficking the narcotic.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/07/29/603095/warrants-turn-up-more-details.html


I also know of some other cases where mephedrone tested positive as methamphetamine by police and US customs.  I wasn't sure if I remembered a case of methylone testing positive or not.  I know for a fact that methamphetamine tests positive as MDMA on a field test.

Interesting information, thank you for providing it.

I like to go back and see what happened in these cases.  I search both the North Carolina and Federal incerceration records and can't find any of these people locked up in either place.  I wish could find out more on what happened.