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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: jollymolly on April 26, 2012, 12:05 am
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Is it safe to use 25i at the club because of vasoconstriction and all the dancing? I read on wikipedia that LSD causes it too but that seems to be relatively much safer. Anyone have any experiences with this at a show or anywhere?
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From the research I've done, LSD isn't considerably "safer" than 25i by any means.
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From the research I've done, LSD isn't considerably "safer" than 25i by any means.
Well, if you discount the fact that LSD has been around for over 50 years and has been extensively used both "in the wild" and in controlled lab experiments, while 25i is a designer drug that debuted in 2010, on which we have nearly no information whatsoever and which, as far as anyone knows, might cause severe long-term health and/or mental problems, cause allergic reactions in some individuals or even interact dangerously with common medications or pre-existing conditions...
Yeah, no reason at all to think that LSD is safer. Except for the indications that 25i overdoses have happened a few times before, whereas there has never been a single LSD overdose in the history of the world.
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I was unaware of possible overdoses occurring on 25i.
Thanks for helpful knowledge, you definitely know a lot more about the subject than me. :)
For some reason after reading through bluelight/erowid about it I was under the wrong impression, thanks for clearing that up
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I was unaware of possible overdoses occurring on 25i.
Thanks for helpful knowledge, you definitely know a lot more about the subject than me. :)
For some reason after reading through bluelight/erowid about it I was under the wrong impression, thanks for clearing that up
Glad I could be helpful. Any RC is worth being very careful with, because we haven't had enough time or enough people to know what they can really do. I can't find the link to the source, but I believe some people overdosed on 4mg of 25i.
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I was unaware of possible overdoses occurring on 25i.
Thanks for helpful knowledge, you definitely know a lot more about the subject than me. :)
For some reason after reading through bluelight/erowid about it I was under the wrong impression, thanks for clearing that up
Glad I could be helpful. Any RC is worth being very careful with, because we haven't had enough time or enough people to know what they can really do. I can't find the link to the source, but I believe some people overdosed on 4g of 25i.
I have 25i tabs from Kwik on the way. Worth trying 2 tabs of those before my LSD tabs come in? I know its an RC but after researching TONS of RCs, 25i seems like the only one I personally wanna try.
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I was unaware of possible overdoses occurring on 25i.
Thanks for helpful knowledge, you definitely know a lot more about the subject than me. :)
For some reason after reading through bluelight/erowid about it I was under the wrong impression, thanks for clearing that up
Glad I could be helpful. Any RC is worth being very careful with, because we haven't had enough time or enough people to know what they can really do. I can't find the link to the source, but I believe some people overdosed on 4g of 25i.
I have 25i tabs from Kwik on the way. Worth trying 2 tabs of those before my LSD tabs come in? I know its an RC but after researching TONS of RCs, 25i seems like the only one I personally wanna try.
I'd start with a single tab, and if that feels okay you can go ahead and do a larger dose next time. Even if you are a very experienced psychonaut, you should start slow with a drug you've never done before. You never know if this particular drug will hit you strong because you lack some specific enzyme or something. It's been known to happen with DXM, for instance: some people are up to three times more sensitive to it than the rest of the population, and they only ever find out when they take the drug and start tripping hard as fuck.
Imagine that with a psychedelic: You think you're in for a fun time with slight visuals and an uplifting feeling and suddenly you're in outer space surrounded by breathing waterfalls of incandescent purple music.
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Sounds like the perfect Friday night! 8)
But yea, i think ill start with a tab or tab 1/2 of 25i and go from there. Thanks again :)
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but I believe some people overdosed on 4g of 25i.
Do you mean 4mg matey? If you did 4g you'd be dead lol.
I don't even know if I'd want to do 25I at a club, but then I wouldn't want to do LSD at a club either. But yeah start off small, maybe half a mg.
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Imagine that with a psychedelic: You think you're in for a fun time with slight visuals and an uplifting feeling and suddenly you're in outer space surrounded by breathing waterfalls of incandescent purple music.
Are you serious? Because if so, I'm doing 1.5 of this, like, now.
Kidding. Sorta. But my first ever psychedelic trip will be this weekend. I'll be taking 2 of kwiks tabs and keep some benzos on hand.
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Imagine that with a psychedelic: You think you're in for a fun time with slight visuals and an uplifting feeling and suddenly you're in outer space surrounded by breathing waterfalls of incandescent purple music.
Are you serious? Because if so, I'm doing 1.5 of this, like, now.
Kidding. Sorta. But my first ever psychedelic trip will be this weekend. I'll be taking 2 of kwiks tabs and keep some benzos on hand.
How do benzos help? Also please do a trip report :)
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Imagine that with a psychedelic: You think you're in for a fun time with slight visuals and an uplifting feeling and suddenly you're in outer space surrounded by breathing waterfalls of incandescent purple music.
Are you serious? Because if so, I'm doing 1.5 of this, like, now.
Kidding. Sorta. But my first ever psychedelic trip will be this weekend. I'll be taking 2 of kwiks tabs and keep some benzos on hand.
Remember when I did my first trip. Good luck my friend, I hope you have as good a time as I did! :D
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but I believe some people overdosed on 4g of 25i.
Do you mean 4mg matey? If you did 4g you'd be dead lol.
I don't even know if I'd want to do 25I at a club, but then I wouldn't want to do LSD at a club either. But yeah start off small, maybe half a mg.
Yes, 4mg. Sorry.
Imagine that with a psychedelic: You think you're in for a fun time with slight visuals and an uplifting feeling and suddenly you're in outer space surrounded by breathing waterfalls of incandescent purple music.
Are you serious? Because if so, I'm doing 1.5 of this, like, now.
Kidding. Sorta. But my first ever psychedelic trip will be this weekend. I'll be taking 2 of kwiks tabs and keep some benzos on hand.
Oh no, there's nothing wrong with that... so long as it's what you're expecting. But imagine having that happen when you thought you were just going to be a little stoned and seeing pretty colors.
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I don't even know if I'd want to do 25I at a club, but then I wouldn't want to do LSD at a club either. But yeah start off small, maybe half a mg.
I did LSD at deadmau5 one time and it was good but wasn't really that amazing. I've tried DudeRug's 25i twice now and the second time I was listening to music and was just blown away by how amazing it sounded. I had the iTunes visualizer up and never had this much fun just chilling to the music and watching the visualizer. After that my friend and I thought about doing it at a show or something and see how it's like while being active.
Where can you buy some benzos by the way? OTC or prescription or on SR? I have some other friends who want to try it too so I want to have some on hand incase anything goes wrong.
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How many do you want? I can do 1000 Valium for $330 :)
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How many do you want? I can do 1000 Valium for $330 :)
Haha I don't think I'll ever need that many. Hopefully I won't ever need any... how much for maybe 20?
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Haha fair enough man, I don't do those amounts because I just drop-ship. I can possibly give you a link on The Road where I get mine if I need little amounts?
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I've tried DudeRug's 25i twice now and the second time I was listening to music and was just blown away by how amazing it sounded. I had the iTunes visualizer up and never had this much fun just chilling to the music and watching the visualizer. After that my friend and I thought about doing it at a show or something and see how it's like while being active.
Haha, this is my exact experience with DudeRugs 25i. If you have a PC download Winamp and get the MilkDrop plugin. Blows any other visualizer out of the water. ;D
I too am eager to try some at a show after seeing how amazing music + visual stimulation was at home.
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"So its visual and goofy- kinda like a very light candy flip. So I've only taken one tab each time- but like you can hold intelligent conversations (or just any conversation) without the kind of mental fuckness acid can sometimes bring. Like sometimes when you're on L and you're trying to communicate with people not tripping or sober it can become a task- no problem here, I was wide awake ready to dance and laughing my ass off. It was a very social mix- enough of a speed up physical feel good without putting you in a 'roll' and just enough of the trip without putting you on a different world. Lights look awesome, slight trail. Don't know how much more I can say about it, but I loved it- read up on some trip reports and then try some"
"dude...25i nbome is where its at.
heres a little about me:
i say less than 100 words a day unless i have to, or unless im drinking alcohol or on drugs.
i hate human contact...i think all humans are fucking stupid, myself included, and i also think that the more you talk the more chance you have of saying something stupid.
in high school i met a girl and went out with her for 3 years, after that ran its course i was so depressed i kinda quit being myself. i was just a different person, i had to re-think my values and what not, idk.
anyway, i just moved in with a new group of people, and stopped smoking weed for 2 weeks as a little experiment to see if that would help me hate people less and talk to people more. (i smoke weed like a jamaican)
it helped a little, but i still knew deep down that the more i talk the more chance i have of saying something dumb.
so I went back to staying high 16/8, and i realized that i would never like human contact without the help of something medicinal.
so I researched this same thing, and after a day or two i narrowed it down to a few things.
I tend to cheap out on things because of my excessive weed habit, so I opted for the 25i nbome.
I took 1mg or 1000ug of 25i nbome and let me tell you...it got me out of my shell.
besides cocaine its the best drug there is for talking to random people or people you don't like.
even a couple days after i take 25i nbome it makes me talkative and outgoing, and i don't like the thought of thinking humans are dumb and the more you talk the more stupid stuff you say.
for lack of a better term, it just makes me happy.
I suggest everyone try it."
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Haha fair enough man, I don't do those amounts because I just drop-ship. I can possibly give you a link on The Road where I get mine if I need little amounts?
That would be awesome. Thanks!
Haha, this is my exact experience with DudeRugs 25i. If you have a PC download Winamp and get the MilkDrop plugin. Blows any other visualizer out of the water. ;D
I too am eager to try some at a show after seeing how amazing music + visual stimulation was at home.
Haha yessss. I almost always go for milkdrop over itunes but I guess I was just lazy that night haha. I'll definitely try it for next time though!
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The wife and I did a half tab last week (550ug) and went out clubbing. It was absolutely PERFECT. I believe a full tab (1000ug) would have been too much. But that is just my opinion.
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That's what I wanted to hear ;D I'll probably try it out at one of the days for EDC.