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Title: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: zvp1014 on August 15, 2013, 05:58 pm
Hey all!

There's no way in hell I'd take LSD, Shrooms or similar at a party (hell, I'd be very unlikely to take them in any public scenario).

I'm curious, what are the best party psychedelics? Drugs that give you similar visual sensations to true psychedelics, yet don't fuck with your head too much. Drugs that make you feel the music more, etc.

The only thing I can think of (which I haven't tried) is 2C-B. Is this true? What else is there?
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: marcellus_wallace on August 15, 2013, 07:58 pm
probably ketamine although i guess its more of a dissociative on low doses its very trippy and great for parties.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: tree on August 15, 2013, 08:20 pm
AMT seems like it could be a good social psychedelic at medium doses, it's sometimes pressed in pills and sold as ecstasy, like 2C-B.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: zvp1014 on August 15, 2013, 08:29 pm
probably ketamine although i guess its more of a dissociative on low doses its very trippy and great for parties.

Ketamine, at least the kind I tried, would be awful for partying. Even at low doses I was way too out of it to party, at moderate doses I had no idea what was going on, and at higher doses I didn't recognize anything around me. It sounds like a great way to wander off into dark alleyways after hitting the club.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on August 15, 2013, 09:56 pm
Mescaline!
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: Vanquish on August 15, 2013, 10:26 pm
LSD+MDMA
MDA

Are the first 2 that spring to mind.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: Purple_Hue000 on August 16, 2013, 12:27 am
Most of the 2C's  such as: 2C-B, 2C-I, and 2C-E I find are great party enhancers.

MDMA and MDA are another two good psychedelic party drugs. I haven't taken them together though and don't plan on it.

I also find some of the 25x-NBOMe series good for partying as well.  Mostly 25i and 25b are great for partying and feeling the music more. 

Actually low doses of LSD I find are great for party enhancers.

LSD to me is an experience that tailors itself to the user. Therefore I feel once I'm past my peak I can do anything I desire on it and and I'll feel awesome!
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: wondercow11 on August 16, 2013, 12:53 am
i personally LOVE MDMA+2C-B at festivals and parties.
I actually need some opinions on what I should do for ezoo.
here is my plan so far:
day 1 : i have nothing in mind besides weed, but i want to be on some nice stuff. FUCK ALCOHOL.
day 2 : mdma+2c-b, weed
day 3: lsd, maybe a little mdma idk yet.. , weed

what do you guys think?
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: semi_feral_human on August 16, 2013, 01:42 am
i personally LOVE MDMA+2C-B at festivals and parties.
I actually need some opinions on what I should do for ezoo.
here is my plan so far:
day 1 : i have nothing in mind besides weed, but i want to be on some nice stuff. FUCK ALCOHOL.
day 2 : mdma+2c-b, weed
day 3: lsd, maybe a little mdma idk yet.. , weed

what do you guys think?
It seems strange that people on silk road are making drug itineraries for festivals. I don't feel one way or the other about it, just something I never noticed outside of these forums.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: wondercow11 on August 16, 2013, 02:25 am
i personally LOVE MDMA+2C-B at festivals and parties.
I actually need some opinions on what I should do for ezoo.
here is my plan so far:
day 1 : i have nothing in mind besides weed, but i want to be on some nice stuff. FUCK ALCOHOL.
day 2 : mdma+2c-b, weed
day 3: lsd, maybe a little mdma idk yet.. , weed

what do you guys think?
It seems strange that people on silk road are making drug itineraries for festivals. I don't feel one way or the other about it, just something I never noticed outside of these forums.


I'd rather be organized then buy some cut shit that could potentially be fatal from a complete stranger.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: ScoobyDoo on August 16, 2013, 02:58 am
Smoke a lil DMT and throw a party on the moon.

Seriously though, if you wanna party just eat some x.
Now that's a party drug.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: zvp1014 on August 16, 2013, 03:20 am
@Everyone regarding X/MDMA.. yes I've tried it many times and yes I've loved it ;p I've just never really considered it a psychedelic; it just raises my mood to a great place. I'd love for something with more in the visual department.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: junjo on August 16, 2013, 03:27 am
2CB is actually quite popular as a party drug in my town, so I'd go with that one.
Unless, of course, you consider MDMA a psychedelic, but I don't want to get into that debate lol
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on August 16, 2013, 03:30 am
@Everyone regarding X/MDMA.. yes I've tried it many times and yes I've loved it ;p I've just never really considered it a psychedelic; it just raises my mood to a great place. I'd love for something with more in the visual department.

Mescaline combines a euphoria similar to that achieved with MDMA with visuals similar to Mushrooms (a little less distorted and freaky).  Plus it lasts a really long time and you can take it before going out, settle into the mindset, and then go have a fucking great time.  It also is easy on the mind and doesn't make you freak out like Shrooms or LSD can (at least IME).

It should be considered the ultimate psychedelic party drug.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: junjo on August 16, 2013, 03:34 am

Mescaline combines a euphoria similar to that achieved with MDMA with visuals similar to Mushrooms (a little less distorted and freaky).  Plus it lasts a really long time and you can take it before going out, settle into the mindset, and then go have a fucking great time.  It also is easy on the mind and doesn't make you freak out like Shrooms or LSD can (at least IME).

It should be considered the ultimate psychedelic party drug.
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I've always wondered why synthetic mescaline is so rare. Is the synthesis that much more difficult than other phenethylamines? or is it just not profitable, considering how large active doses of it are.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: wondercow11 on August 16, 2013, 03:47 am

Mescaline combines a euphoria similar to that achieved with MDMA with visuals similar to Mushrooms (a little less distorted and freaky).  Plus it lasts a really long time and you can take it before going out, settle into the mindset, and then go have a fucking great time.  It also is easy on the mind and doesn't make you freak out like Shrooms or LSD can (at least IME).

It should be considered the ultimate psychedelic party drug.

I've always wondered why synthetic mescaline is so rare. Is the synthesis that much more difficult than other phenethylamines? or is it just not profitable, considering how large active doses of it are.
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can you give me more info?
this seems REALLY interesting. any experiences?
side affects? cross-tolerances?
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: joywind on August 16, 2013, 05:06 am
In no particular order:

- LSD...though I needed to have many trips under my belt before I could handle LSD in any social situation. Now it's my favourite party drug. Definitely don't recommend it to people who are not experienced with psychedelics.
- MDMA
- MDMA + LSD
- Ketamine
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on August 16, 2013, 05:07 am
can you give me more info?
this seems REALLY interesting. any experiences?
side affects? cross-tolerances?

I've taken mescaline maybe 25 times in the past five years.

Side effects are minimal except for some nausea in certain people.  I have a terribly sensitive stomach so I get sick a lot but after I learned to properly purify it down to Mescaline HCL not a single other person I have consumed with has become sick - including others with sensitive stomachs - so I will chalk up my nausea to the same stomach problems I've been plagued by when taking almost any drug.  But even with the nausea I can wait it out until it goes away or at least wait it out a couple hours then vomit after its absorbped.  The experience lasts so long it doesn't matter because after those couple hours I still have 6-10 hours of good times left depending on how much I consume.  And it is the BEST feeling.

As far as cross tolerances - I think that mescaline has a few drugs which might fit this description.  I once consumed 450mg of mescaline three days after a really hard candy-kitty-flip (MDA-LSD trip coming down on ketamine) and I barely felt any effects at all.  Since that time I have learned to respect the mescaline trip and never do anything before it so I am not sure what specifically caused the cross tolerance in that incident or what other drugs may have cross tolerance but I always advise everyone of the same now.

I could go on and on about experiences but I have had the best times in the world just sitting in nature and looking at things, as well as being out at parties and dancing.  It just makes everything that you see look absolutely beautiful and like it has been digitized in HD and floods your body with euphoria without any of the freaky fucked up thoughts that might come with say an LSD trip.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on August 16, 2013, 05:14 am
I've always wondered why synthetic mescaline is so rare. Is the synthesis that much more difficult than other phenethylamines? or is it just not profitable, considering how large active doses of it are.

I think it's a combination of the difficulty of synthesis as well as the active dosage size.

The extraction process is painful and doesn't make sense for profit unless you are somehow sitting on a San Pedro farm.

I was excited when BlueGiraffe mentioned he had figured that part out but doesnt seem like that will be happening anymore since his downfall.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: junjo on August 16, 2013, 05:17 am
what's the level of "mindfuck" on a drug like mescaline? I'm interested because I've only had experience with LSD and tryptamines, and while both are enjoyable, i feel like they "force" thoughts on you, rather than let just giving you the tools for self exploration on your own. I would absolutely love a psychedelic that just gives you a crystal clear and peaceful mindstate, where you are in control of the experience. I really hate how LSD and Shrooms tend to mess with my head and give me some bizarre delusions, and I was hoping that Mescaline would be a more "controllable" psychedelic
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on August 16, 2013, 05:24 am
what's the level of "mindfuck" on a drug like mescaline? I'm interested because I've only had experience with LSD and tryptamines, and while both are enjoyable, i feel like they "force" thoughts on you, rather than let just giving you the tools for self exploration on your own. I would absolutely love a psychedelic that just gives you a crystal clear and peaceful mindstate, where you are in control of the experience. I really hate how LSD and Shrooms tend to mess with my head and give me some bizarre delusions, and I was hoping that Mescaline would be a more "controllable" psychedelic

IME, this is PRECISELY what mescaline is.  Shrooms don't really mess me up that much because my stomach is too sensitive to consume enough to do it any longer.  However, LSD really fucks with my head and takes me a long time to return back to normal.  On mescaline I feel like I can think clearly, I just have intense physical and mental euphoria along with extremely beautiful (not distorted or scary like sometimes LSD can produce) visuals that I never want to go away.  This is why it IS the ultimate!
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: junjo on August 16, 2013, 05:35 am
Damn, this sounds exactly like my ideal psychedelic. MDMA was the closest I ever got to a drug I could use for relatively accurate self reflection, but all the unwanted stimulant effects ruined it for me.
Mescaline sounds like my perfect drug lol. Not like I'll ever see a domestic synthetic mesc listing ever on the road, but a man can dream.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: junjo on August 16, 2013, 05:38 am
anyone know the consensus on allylescaline and proscaline? actual decent mescaline analogs or just more RC nightmares?
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on August 16, 2013, 05:39 am
Not like I'll ever see a domestic synthetic mesc listing ever on the road, but a man can dream.

Why do you specifically want synthetic? 

Extract is the way to go if you can get it.

And both are offered from time to time on here.  It's just expensive and goes quickly.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: junjo on August 16, 2013, 05:44 am
Not like I'll ever see a domestic synthetic mesc listing ever on the road, but a man can dream.

Why do you specifically want synthetic? 

Extract is the way to go if you can get it.

And both are offered from time to time on here.  It's just expensive and goes quickly.
I wouldn't mind either way, I just keep saying "synthetic" to differentiate from eating cactus lol
How much does it usually go for when it shows up?
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: wondercow11 on August 16, 2013, 05:46 am
Not like I'll ever see a domestic synthetic mesc listing ever on the road, but a man can dream.

Why do you specifically want synthetic? 

Extract is the way to go if you can get it.

And both are offered from time to time on here.  It's just expensive and goes quickly.


is any of the domestic stuff good? USA to be exact
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on August 16, 2013, 05:58 am
I wouldn't mind either way, I just keep saying "synthetic" to differentiate from eating cactus lol

Okay that explains it.

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How much does it usually go for when it shows up?

Expect to pay a minimum of $100 per gram up to $150.  Good dose for most people is between 350-500mg.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: junjo on August 16, 2013, 06:02 am
I wouldn't mind either way, I just keep saying "synthetic" to differentiate from eating cactus lol

Okay that explains it.

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How much does it usually go for when it shows up?

Expect to pay a minimum of $100 per gram up to $150.  Good dose for most people is between 350-500mg.
yikes. well i guess you're paying for the experience more than anything.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: zvp1014 on August 16, 2013, 06:17 am
Erry1 get on this AL-LAD.

Seriously, this is amazing.  I could definitely party with this.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: ProudCannabian on August 16, 2013, 05:13 pm
Gammagoblin has about the best prices for mesc on the road.  When he freshly stocks it he usually only charges $80/g.  It sucks that it's so expensive, but it is the cadillac of psychedelics.

Low dose 60-100 of LSD does the trick for me in social situations wthout "forcing weird thoughts" from my head.  At that dose, with my tolerance, it's just like talking to people while enjoying the rush.

Learning some good meditation techniques can help a LOT with the mind games you play on yourself while tripping.  All those weird thoughts are not coming from the LSD, it's potentiating them, but those thoughts are your mind.  These thoughts, conscious and subconscious, bubble to the surface after LSD removes the filters we use to keep our world straight and easy.

Folks here that take higher doses are usually pretty chill, and have strong enough minds to handle it.  You do see the occasional dumbass that takes heroic doses of any random drug just to be "that guy."  I call it the Steve-O drug experience.  If you haven't prepared and educated yourself you can end up pretty messed by going too hard core too early.  Never go full retard.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: HenryC0833 on August 17, 2013, 12:04 am
I'm with you, I like going out among people while on psychedelics.  But its hard to find something that's just right. 

LSD is a great social drug, if everybody else is on acid, too.  Otherwise nobody will talk to you.  Well, the etards will talk to you, but it'll be like talking to someone from the slow-motion planet.  Which is funny and all.

I've had good luck with low doses of acid along with something to warm it up a little, like MDMA or opiates.  For example, half tab of acid and 5mg of oxycodone.

I think what we are looking for is MDA or an MDMA/2CB combo.  Both are on my list to try.

Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: livestr0ng on August 17, 2013, 12:53 am
God dammit. This thread has made me want mescaline. [Takes out notepad, turns to page titled "Drug To-Do List", and writes "#6. Mescaline"]
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: Vanquish on August 17, 2013, 12:54 am
Erry1 get on this AL-LAD.

Seriously, this is amazing.  I could definitely party with this.

What kind of dosage range are you recommending on the AL-LAD?
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on August 17, 2013, 01:08 am
Erry1 get on this AL-LAD.

Seriously, this is amazing.  I could definitely party with this.

What kind of dosage range are you recommending on the AL-LAD?

What is AL-LAD?
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on August 17, 2013, 01:14 am
Gammagoblin has about the best prices for mesc on the road.  When he freshly stocks it he usually only charges $80/g.  It sucks that it's so expensive, but it is the cadillac of psychedelics.

That's a great price.  It is synthetic instead of extract which I am sure makes it cheaper to produce.

I have heard some people say they didn't think synthetic was as good but I don't have any personal experience with anything except extract.  I am pretty sure I've seen GG state that he doesn't notice any difference personally but I don't know if I've seen anyone else who has tried both that can offer a comparison.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: zvp1014 on August 17, 2013, 04:00 am
What kind of dosage range are you recommending on the AL-LAD?
I took 300 µg and had a very fun time, albeit this was four days after shroom usage. I'd probably take less for a party if I had no psychedelic tolerances developed.

Quote from: Hoobydoobydoo
What is AL-LAD?
An LSD derivative that's quite hard to find but recently has found a resurgence in SR.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: wondercow11 on August 17, 2013, 04:52 am
What kind of dosage range are you recommending on the AL-LAD?
I took 300 µg and had a very fun time, albeit this was four days after shroom usage. I'd probably take less for a party if I had no psychedelic tolerances developed.

Quote from: Hoobydoobydoo
What is AL-LAD?
An LSD derivative that's quite hard to find but recently has found a resurgence in SR.


AL-LAD took 6 hours to take effect for me.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: zipstyle on August 17, 2013, 07:30 am
Damn, this sounds exactly like my ideal psychedelic. MDMA was the closest I ever got to a drug I could use for relatively accurate self reflection, but all the unwanted stimulant effects ruined it for me.
Mescaline sounds like my perfect drug lol. Not like I'll ever see a domestic synthetic mesc listing ever on the road, but a man can dream.

I honestly think that 2C-E will fit the bill perfectly for you. It is VERY similar to hoobydoobydoo's description of mescaline (except maybe a bit shorter duration) and is, by far, one of my favorite psychedelics I have yet to try. Also a bit more affordable and available :)
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: wondercow11 on August 17, 2013, 03:47 pm
Damn, this sounds exactly like my ideal psychedelic. MDMA was the closest I ever got to a drug I could use for relatively accurate self reflection, but all the unwanted stimulant effects ruined it for me.
Mescaline sounds like my perfect drug lol. Not like I'll ever see a domestic synthetic mesc listing ever on the road, but a man can dream.

I honestly think that 2C-E will fit the bill perfectly for you. It is VERY similar to hoobydoobydoo's description of mescaline (except maybe a bit shorter duration) and is, by far, one of my favorite psychedelics I have yet to try. Also a bit more affordable and available :)


are there any cross tolerances? preferably with mdma, lsd, and  2c-b
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: zvp1014 on August 17, 2013, 05:42 pm
AL-LAD took 6 hours to take effect for me.

o_0 Mine gradually faded in over the course of an hour then gradually faded off as I approached sleep.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: zipstyle on August 17, 2013, 10:55 pm
Damn, this sounds exactly like my ideal psychedelic. MDMA was the closest I ever got to a drug I could use for relatively accurate self reflection, but all the unwanted stimulant effects ruined it for me.
Mescaline sounds like my perfect drug lol. Not like I'll ever see a domestic synthetic mesc listing ever on the road, but a man can dream.

I honestly think that 2C-E will fit the bill perfectly for you. It is VERY similar to hoobydoobydoo's description of mescaline (except maybe a bit shorter duration) and is, by far, one of my favorite psychedelics I have yet to try. Also a bit more affordable and available :)


are there any cross tolerances? preferably with mdma, lsd, and  2c-b

There may be some minor cross-tolerance with 2c-b and/or mdma, but I don't think it will be very significant. It's also pretty easy to re-dose on 2C-E if you need a booster to get you where you wanna be.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: wondercow11 on August 17, 2013, 11:25 pm
Damn, this sounds exactly like my ideal psychedelic. MDMA was the closest I ever got to a drug I could use for relatively accurate self reflection, but all the unwanted stimulant effects ruined it for me.
Mescaline sounds like my perfect drug lol. Not like I'll ever see a domestic synthetic mesc listing ever on the road, but a man can dream.

I honestly think that 2C-E will fit the bill perfectly for you. It is VERY similar to hoobydoobydoo's description of mescaline (except maybe a bit shorter duration) and is, by far, one of my favorite psychedelics I have yet to try. Also a bit more affordable and available :)


are there any cross tolerances? preferably with mdma, lsd, and  2c-b

There may be some minor cross-tolerance with 2c-b and/or mdma, but I don't think it will be very significant. It's also pretty easy to re-dose on 2C-E if you need a booster to get you where you wanna be.


what is its duration?
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: zipstyle on August 18, 2013, 03:22 am
Damn, this sounds exactly like my ideal psychedelic. MDMA was the closest I ever got to a drug I could use for relatively accurate self reflection, but all the unwanted stimulant effects ruined it for me.
Mescaline sounds like my perfect drug lol. Not like I'll ever see a domestic synthetic mesc listing ever on the road, but a man can dream.

I honestly think that 2C-E will fit the bill perfectly for you. It is VERY similar to hoobydoobydoo's description of mescaline (except maybe a bit shorter duration) and is, by far, one of my favorite psychedelics I have yet to try. Also a bit more affordable and available :)


are there any cross tolerances? preferably with mdma, lsd, and  2c-b

There may be some minor cross-tolerance with 2c-b and/or mdma, but I don't think it will be very significant. It's also pretty easy to re-dose on 2C-E if you need a booster to get you where you wanna be.


what is its duration?

About 6-8 hours usually
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: wondercow11 on August 18, 2013, 03:40 am
Damn, this sounds exactly like my ideal psychedelic. MDMA was the closest I ever got to a drug I could use for relatively accurate self reflection, but all the unwanted stimulant effects ruined it for me.
Mescaline sounds like my perfect drug lol. Not like I'll ever see a domestic synthetic mesc listing ever on the road, but a man can dream.

I honestly think that 2C-E will fit the bill perfectly for you. It is VERY similar to hoobydoobydoo's description of mescaline (except maybe a bit shorter duration) and is, by far, one of my favorite psychedelics I have yet to try. Also a bit more affordable and available :)


are there any cross tolerances? preferably with mdma, lsd, and  2c-b

There may be some minor cross-tolerance with 2c-b and/or mdma, but I don't think it will be very significant. It's also pretty easy to re-dose on 2C-E if you need a booster to get you where you wanna be.


what is its duration?

About 6-8 hours usually


coooool:]
ive recently tried 200mg mdma and 15mg 2cb.
i found the 2c-b to be pleasant but I still wanted more.
the next time i do this combo, is it ok to do 25mg of 2c-b?
i dont want to overwhelm myself, but I am experienced with psychedelics.
 
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: t1m3b0mb on August 18, 2013, 04:49 am
I would recommend checking out the nbomes. I have tried 25i and 25b and personally I would lean towards 25i for a party because I feel very social, euphoric, and energetic and music is bliss on it. The nbomes are essentially analogues of the 2c series (e.g. 2c-i was converted to 25i-nBome). They are newish but quite affordable, and still legal in some countries.

Also I would think you could combine ghb with psychedelics to make the experience more social but experiment carefully.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: HenryC0833 on August 19, 2013, 02:25 pm
Regarding the nbome's, how's the body load?  2ci was stimulating and all, but it tended to make people feel gross and that took a lot of the fun away.  By "gross" I meant irritable, dysphoric and nauseated.  It does have really fantastic visuals which occur at a low enough dose that you can still talk to people, but after the newness of that wears off, you're left with a drug that is, quite frankly, rather unpleasant.
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: zipstyle on August 19, 2013, 02:29 pm
Just wanted to pop in and say that I've read/heard some good things about 5-meo-mipt being a nice party drug :)
Ballzinator would be able to give some further info on that, I'm sure.

Much love!
Title: Re: What are the psychedelic party drugs?
Post by: zipstyle on August 19, 2013, 02:31 pm
Damn, this sounds exactly like my ideal psychedelic. MDMA was the closest I ever got to a drug I could use for relatively accurate self reflection, but all the unwanted stimulant effects ruined it for me.
Mescaline sounds like my perfect drug lol. Not like I'll ever see a domestic synthetic mesc listing ever on the road, but a man can dream.

I honestly think that 2C-E will fit the bill perfectly for you. It is VERY similar to hoobydoobydoo's description of mescaline (except maybe a bit shorter duration) and is, by far, one of my favorite psychedelics I have yet to try. Also a bit more affordable and available :)


are there any cross tolerances? preferably with mdma, lsd, and  2c-b

There may be some minor cross-tolerance with 2c-b and/or mdma, but I don't think it will be very significant. It's also pretty easy to re-dose on 2C-E if you need a booster to get you where you wanna be.


what is its duration?

About 6-8 hours usually


coooool:]
ive recently tried 200mg mdma and 15mg 2cb.
i found the 2c-b to be pleasant but I still wanted more.
the next time i do this combo, is it ok to do 25mg of 2c-b?
i dont want to overwhelm myself, but I am experienced with psychedelics.
 

I think you'd be fine with 25 mg 2c-b, as long as you're experienced and think you can handle it :)
It will be a fun time!

Also, 2c-e + MDMA is pure amazing. Doesn't get too much more euphoric/visual than that combo!