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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: wt on April 01, 2012, 09:19 pm

Title: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: wt on April 01, 2012, 09:19 pm
I'm wondering if people could give me advice on how suitable any other phenethylamine or substituted amphetamine (or other) chemicals are as weekly-use stimulants (perhaps at much lower dosages).   I'm asking because talking doctors into scripts for adderall/dexedrine/vyvanse is becoming a pain in the ass and I'm also just interesting in trying something new. 

Has any taken 2C drugs at low dosages primarily for the stimulant effect?  What about Methylone?  I'm really kind of novice here and so don't really even know which drugs I should even be looking into (if any!).   

Thanks all!

Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: jtemp102311 on April 01, 2012, 09:50 pm
Dude Provigil (Modafinil) is killer.  5 days on 2 days off gives great results without tolerance and decent euphoria, mental stimulation and phys energy.. rarely any side effects for me or the tested population.

Its going generic in a a few days in the US and a doc will readily write a script due to the $$ powers of Cephalon.  It is already generic in Europe and MANY vendors are/ will offer it here on the Road. 

Try COHERENCE on the road under stimulants.

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good luck bro
j
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: koolkev on April 01, 2012, 10:11 pm
yes, as said above, try modafinil. it gets you pretty alert without any jitter or other side effects. i can also vouch for coherence, had several orders and i was always very satisfied with him/her!
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: davebowman on April 01, 2012, 11:50 pm
I would love to find a good non amphetamine stimulant because I always finish my vyvanse script early, which is absolutely horrible, but in my experience there's nothing that can give me what I get from amphetamines, neither recreational nor psychiatric. When I dont have my meds I usually just drink lots of coffee and mope, become irritable and withdrawn, sleep all day sort of thing. This modafinil sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: wt on April 04, 2012, 05:11 am
Thanks everyone for that recommendation, I'm planning to give modafinil a try soon and will try to remember to report back on it here.  Any other advice would be very welcome in the mean time!
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: mju7 on April 04, 2012, 08:57 am
Modafinil is an amphetamine...
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: koolkev on April 04, 2012, 12:13 pm
Modafinil is an amphetamine...

source?

Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: Raoul Duke on April 04, 2012, 12:27 pm
she don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie.....cocaine 8)

get it from here from the right people and it won't have any amphetamine in it
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: koolkev on April 04, 2012, 12:40 pm
she don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie.....cocaine 8)

get it from here from the right people and it won't have any amphetamine in it

if you wanna get down, you've got to take her out....
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: andyki on April 04, 2012, 01:03 pm
I received 10x of Coherence's Modafinil (Modalert brand) yesterday and tried it today. I hadn't had it for a couple of years but it is just as good as i remember. A positive outlook and general desire to get things done without the body load and anxiety of other stimulants (dexamphetamine, caffeine, adderall etc). It came packed exceptionally well, for those interested. Coherence is a great seller! I am going to try the armodafinil next... hopefully with slightly less internal tension which i experienced later in the day after a second dose (200mg tablet)

I won't try it again tomorrow, but will save for when i really need it (doing a masters at the moment and plenty of late nights and long days at work).

Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: mju7 on April 04, 2012, 04:29 pm
Modafinil is an amphetamine...

source?
Its structure.
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: OuterLimits on April 04, 2012, 07:08 pm
Modafinil is good if you want to be mentally alert, but if its that amphetamine euphoria and speedyness you seek try some methylone you cant beat the price and the comedown is almost non-existant.
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: wt on April 04, 2012, 08:34 pm
Modafinil is an amphetamine...

source?
Its structure.

Really?  Did you look at it's skeletal structure?  It doesn't look at all the same to me.
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: wt on April 04, 2012, 08:47 pm
Modafinil is good if you want to be mentally alert, but if its that amphetamine euphoria and speedyness you seek try some methylone you cant beat the price and the comedown is almost non-existant.

I've been kind of curious about Methylone (which, yes, is related to amphetamine).  What's the comedown like?   Any recommendations of who to get it from?   
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: OuterLimits on April 04, 2012, 09:27 pm
Modafinil is good if you want to be mentally alert, but if its that amphetamine euphoria and speedyness you seek try some methylone you cant beat the price and the comedown is almost non-existant.

I've been kind of curious about Methylone (which, yes, is related to amphetamine).  What's the comedown like?   Any recommendations of who to get it from?

The comedown is similar to adderal but not nearly as bad. If you have something to keep your mind busy it shouldnt really even phase you, especially if your girlfriend is around ;)

Foxymeow is always my first choice for methylone, but i think is only taking bulk orders now. My second choice for smaller orders would be kwiktrip.
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: Gigles on April 04, 2012, 11:30 pm
I like modafinil for a little daily oomph and appetite suppression.
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: hillybilly2 on April 04, 2012, 11:49 pm
I love stims of all sorts and Modalert or Modafinil is quite good.  The are some advertised undesirable side effects such as a rash for a slim portion of the population. So I started with a allergy test like someone trying RCs should do.

 Very popular now to treat shift worker disorder and the US military uses it extensively for high alert long combat situations. Fighter pilots Green Berets sort of thing..Very good push for me and a nice focus without jitters or tough comedown.   The structure is not amphetamine and actually all the study work indicate in actually works in the opposite fashion from amphetamines. In fact quite a bit of theory about treating meth addicts with it.  Modafinil is a serotonin  re uptake inhibitor not a huge releaser like meth or amph.  Lots fo inof for the cutious minded out in the real web on this relatively new and increasing popular pharma product. I apologize for my horrbile spelling but spell check is confused too, The Speedy Nnija made a good start here on the US but has gone stealth but coherence is the man.

Hilly
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: wt on April 05, 2012, 02:16 am
Modafinil is good if you want to be mentally alert, but if its that amphetamine euphoria and speedyness you seek try some methylone you cant beat the price and the comedown is almost non-existant.

I've been kind of curious about Methylone (which, yes, is related to amphetamine).  What's the comedown like?   Any recommendations of who to get it from?

The comedown is similar to adderal but not nearly as bad. If you have something to keep your mind busy it shouldnt really even phase you, especially if your girlfriend is around ;)

...

Ha!  Thanks for the recommendation - I've found adderall and vyvanse to be rough coming up and down and, while I still love them, I'm less enamored than I used to be.  Plus my girlfriend can tell when I'm really high because I act all cracked-out.  I'm definitely looking forward to trying methylone
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: wt on April 05, 2012, 02:20 am
I love stims of all sorts and Modalert or Modafinil is quite good.
....
Hilly

Definitely giving it a try.   Do you (or anyone else) know the differences between Modafinil (provigal) and Armodafinil (nuvigil)?  I know one is a racemic mix and the other isn't, but does that translate strongly into its effects? 
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: wt on April 05, 2012, 02:23 am
she don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie.....cocaine 8)

get it from here from the right people and it won't have any amphetamine in it


Ahhhh, would totally love to, but I got scared off cocaine by a co-worker who claimed a lot of the stuff is cut with levamisole. 
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: Raoul Duke on April 05, 2012, 07:49 am
she don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie.....cocaine 8)

get it from here from the right people and it won't have any amphetamine in it


Ahhhh, would totally love to, but I got scared off cocaine by a co-worker who claimed a lot of the stuff is cut with levamisole.

yeah this is true, but read up on the coke vendors thread - a few peoples have been lab tested and it's l'sole free. and the washed stuff is another world mate, a tiny bump and you're up for hours. and that is no exaggeration, even coming from a coke head ;)
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: mju7 on April 05, 2012, 08:23 am
Modafinil is an amphetamine...

source?
Its structure.

Really?  Did you look at it's skeletal structure?  It doesn't look at all the same to me.
I would think it still counts as a substituted amphetamine, but somebody with more knowledge may be able to correct me here.
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: wt on April 06, 2012, 03:11 am
she don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie.....cocaine 8)

get it from here from the right people and it won't have any amphetamine in it


Ahhhh, would totally love to, but I got scared off cocaine by a co-worker who claimed a lot of the stuff is cut with levamisole.

yeah this is true, but read up on the coke vendors thread - a few peoples have been lab tested and it's l'sole free. and the washed stuff is another world mate, a tiny bump and you're up for hours. and that is no exaggeration, even coming from a coke head ;)

Alright then, gonna give it a try as soon as I muster up enough coins.  Think I could take it before work and still be relatively functional? 
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: wowzers on April 07, 2012, 12:15 am
I would think it still counts as a substituted amphetamine, but somebody with more knowledge may be able to correct me here.


Modafinil isn't a substituted amphetamine. Amphetamine is a shortened form of it's chemical name Alpha-MethylPHenylEThylAmine. Modafinil is a benzsulfinylhydryl compound and doesn't contain the a-methylphenylethylamine skeleton.

Earlier this week I tried methiopropamine and dimethocaine, both alone and mixed. Methiopropamine is a stimulant and is the thiophene analogue of methamphetamine. at 50mg insufflated, it gave good focus and motivation lasting around 5 hours with few after effects. It would be perfect for studying.

I have 12g of it but I think I'm going to give most of it away as I have the feeling it has the potential to be quite addictive. I found myself reaching for the bag every hour and had terrible sleep 12 hours after dosing.

I wasn't at all impressed with dimethocaine, it was barely stimulating and I felt like there was a strong vasoconstrictive element, won't be touching it again.


Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: a_blackbird on April 08, 2012, 04:15 am
I love stims of all sorts and Modalert or Modafinil is quite good.
....
Hilly

Definitely giving it a try.   Do you (or anyone else) know the differences between Modafinil (provigal) and Armodafinil (nuvigil)?  I know one is a racemic mix and the other isn't, but does that translate strongly into its effects?

If you have a choice, go with armodafinil.  Having tried both, my experience has been that armodafinil gives all of the good alertness-type effects of modafinil without the jitters and (for me, anyway) gastrointestinal distress (we call it buddha belly) that can sometimes come with it.  It's not really all that much stronger than modafinil, but I think it is definitely smoother, and it's absolutely easier to go to sleep when you want to go to sleep.
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: Raoul Duke on April 10, 2012, 07:15 am
she don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie.....cocaine 8)

get it from here from the right people and it won't have any amphetamine in it


Ahhhh, would totally love to, but I got scared off cocaine by a co-worker who claimed a lot of the stuff is cut with levamisole.

yeah this is true, but read up on the coke vendors thread - a few peoples have been lab tested and it's l'sole free. and the washed stuff is another world mate, a tiny bump and you're up for hours. and that is no exaggeration, even coming from a coke head ;)

Alright then, gonna give it a try as soon as I muster up enough coins.  Think I could take it before work and still be relatively functional?

err.... each to their own mate, but i wouldn't do coke before work. i can't do any drugs before work though due to dealing with certain authorities at work. if you're used to doing something before work it should be ok though, where i used to work i used to have a couple of lines on my lunch break
Title: Re: Non-amphetamine stimulants
Post by: wt on April 27, 2012, 01:08 am
I love stims of all sorts and Modalert or Modafinil is quite good.
....
Hilly

Definitely giving it a try.   Do you (or anyone else) know the differences between Modafinil (provigal) and Armodafinil (nuvigil)?  I know one is a racemic mix and the other isn't, but does that translate strongly into its effects?

If you have a choice, go with armodafinil.  Having tried both, my experience has been that armodafinil gives all of the good alertness-type effects of modafinil without the jitters and (for me, anyway) gastrointestinal distress (we call it buddha belly) that can sometimes come with it.  It's not really all that much stronger than modafinil, but I think it is definitely smoother, and it's absolutely easier to go to sleep when you want to go to sleep.


UPDATE:
Have now tried both modafinil and armodafinil.  Armodafinil is definitely more smooth, although I had a difficult time falling asleep on either. 

Armodafinil was interesting in that (like mentioned) it had absolutely no euphoric effects.  Didn't really help my concentration really, but I could definitely tell there was some sort of modification.   Didn't seem to effect my work.

I tried mixing a 150mg of it with 20mg of Adderall and would not recommend it.  The combo saw my OCD tendencies in full effect and I spent a miserable 18 or so hours fucking around with minor shit on the internet.  Oh well, "Waste not fresh tears over old griefs."

Overall, I liked the two.  Seems like they'd be perfect for long drives or marathon project.  Still kind of nervous about trying methylone and can't seem to get my hands on any cocaine....