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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: RuinedAGreatThing7 on April 30, 2012, 10:13 pm
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Here's an unedited conversation for you guys:
Dictator (VENDOR) (Rated site 10/10) - 03/27/2012 04:00
Is this place hot as fuck?
zorrero (704) - 03/27/2012 05:35
not worth the risk IMO
tguy (129) (Rated site 7/10) - 03/27/2012 10:25
Or the prices......
Also a buddy vendor who's selling oxy at 50% less then all the rest of the vendors is being squeezed out due to his prices. I had a feeling the high prices were purposely and artificially high.
I would only use SR for molly etc.
nanchan (VENDOR) - 03/28/2012 03:58
Likely, yes. Theoretically with the technology though it shouldn't matter how much attention LEO has on the site, it should be able to stay operational.
crooked (124) - 03/28/2012 14:12
I think people have way too much faith in the anonymity of the Tor network and Bitcoin in general and as such aren't taking proper security measures like protecting themselves from FININT attacks etc.
Comment edited on 03/28/2012 14:12
tguy (129) (Rated site 7/10) - 03/28/2012 20:58
Doubtful the Govt. will go to that extent to catch 1 or 2 grams of X going to Bumbfuck, KY.
If anyone has to worry it's the owners but I doubt they will get got, they will go scammer before they are caught.
Comment edited on 03/28/2012 20:58
Dream0n_MONkey (339) - 03/28/2012 22:54
Delete Reason: Waste of Space & Encouraging spam.
Comment edited on 03/29/2012 21:45
tguy (129) (Rated site 7/10) - 03/29/2012 12:45
You are pretty transparent. You vend there or you have ownership in SR.
The red flags are all over:
- the SR forums are HIGHLY censored. More so than any other board I have seen. Many have gotten banned for asking simple questions
- The vendors have formed a "clique" that keep other vendors out esp. opiates. I know a few foreign, very reputable vendors of opiates and such that were squeezed out . They were 50-75% cheaper than others
It's post like yours that say "everything is safe, no need for proof JUST TRUST US" that do SR the biggest disservice. It comes off as shady and it's all been done before. Questions need to be asked and ANSWERED. Do so on sr forums and you'll be banned in a NY second.
Paperchasing (VENDOR) - 04/14/2012 23:29
Yeh I agree about the censoring on the forums.. its outrageous really. Ive had several of my comments disappear. Its quite irritating really. As for the vendors forming a clique, not so much. Anyone can become a vendor there by paying the 150 bucks to have a vendor account. Nobody can stop anyone from anonymously mailing out sales, I really don't know what your talking about and I would probably know about a movement to squeeze out other vendors seeing as how Im in the very top tier of sellers and have been there for a long time as well. The only notable vendor of oxy's Ive seen leave lately was Pharmville and they left more or less because of the commission structure levied upon the vendors by the administration, which still does not function correctly and sometimes charges more than the posted rates. ahh well I guess its a work in progress... nothing is perfect but SR certainly is trying to do SOMETHING at least. It wouldnt take much digging to see that Im one of the few vendors that is willing to openly oppose Mr. SR in the forums, just read the state of the road address or the state of the road comment thread in the forums.. at least those have not gotten deleted (yet).
Im curious, what is the question you want answered that got deleted from the forums?
LaughingMan (10) - 03/30/2012 05:32
The forum censoring is what really, really bothers me.
Fractal Cowboy (885) - 03/29/2012 13:25
have a chill pill guys ..
None of your posts will prevent buyers to buy and sellers to sell on that site. Most of the buyers don't read this entry and most of the sellers are busy with shipping orders, laundering money etc..i think most of them are dumb, but not naive enough to sell without high security measures
tguy (129) (Rated site 7/10) - 03/29/2012 04:51
And why would anyone blindly believe you?
There are numerous warning signs on SR that point to it being run by shady people who purposely want to inflate prices on the system.
LEO doesn't have to explode SR. It will implode on its own.
Shepj (VENDOR) - 03/29/2012 05:37
eh.. the quality on many of the vendor's products has been relatively high. Look at the alternative. People on the street often buy from shady people, who inflate the prices to their liking. At least with an open market there is competition for products better than those available to most people locally. Purity is another big thing. Many of their vendors have stocked high quality products.. seems like a somewhat effective market to me. High quality, pure products sounds like a form of harm-reduction to me. You may be paying a tax to the someone for running the site, but at least you know what you're getting into.
As to the safety concerns, TOR is only part of the security measures involved in online source-boards. Many other measures can be taken to provide anonymity.
Fractal Cowboy (885) - 03/29/2012 10:23
hey shepj soundz like youre vending there ? haha just kidding, nice to read you btw..it's been a looong time huh ?
Shepj (VENDOR) - 03/30/2012 04:55
I was for a while. I have quit vending entirely. But I wouldn't be there if I didn't think it was secure.
Thanks! You too! I need to catch up with you.. there is no damn PM system here! lol.
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Maybe it is a selective scam? Maybe you're just retarded?
I've been here 10 months, spent 365 bit coins over 32 transactions.
Of those 32, only 1 hasn't shown up and I wasn't refunded. It was a liter of cough syrup from sales4drone.
I've been happy with every product I've ordered on silkroad. Every vendor I've chosen to work with has been courteous, responsive and quick to resolve negative situations.
You're saying there's some big master controller, choosing what we buy and what we pay for it? Even if that could be true, I don't give a fuck. In the end, I get the drugs I want at prices I'm happy with.
What I'm not happy about is how the forum works.
DPR, I know you want SR to keep growing, but I think we'd all be better off if you closed of registration to new members like you did last year, and had forum accounts linked directly to buyer/vendor accounts.
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So Silk Road is one giant selective scam is it? That's weird, because I've spent over $2,000 here and this is the first time that I have gotten screwed. Losing $250 one time over that long? Please, SR is as good as ever, people are just on edge because the #1 vendor up and disappeared. There a ton of other legitimate vendors here and everyone knows it. Way to try and ruin the name though.
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Maybe it is a selective scam? Maybe you're just retarded?
I've been here 10 months, spent 365 bit coins over 32 transactions.
Of those 32, only 1 hasn't shown up and I wasn't refunded. It was a liter of cough syrup from sales4drone.
I've been happy with every product I've ordered on silkroad. Every vendor I've chosen to work with has been courteous, responsive and quick to resolve negative situations.
You're saying there's some big master controller, choosing what we buy and what we pay for it? Even if that could be true, I don't give a fuck. In the end, I get the drugs I want at prices I'm happy with.
What I'm not happy about is how the forum works.
DPR, I know you want SR to keep growing, but I think we'd all be better off if you closed of registration to new members like you did last year, and had forum accounts linked directly to buyer/vendor accounts.
I didn't say anything. They did Brother.
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Well, atleast with all the Tony shit going on I've seen more creative trolls come out.
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Maybe it is a selective scam? Maybe you're just retarded?
I've been here 10 months, spent 365 bit coins over 32 transactions.
Of those 32, only 1 hasn't shown up and I wasn't refunded. It was a liter of cough syrup from sales4drone.
I've been happy with every product I've ordered on silkroad. Every vendor I've chosen to work with has been courteous, responsive and quick to resolve negative situations.
You're saying there's some big master controller, choosing what we buy and what we pay for it? Even if that could be true, I don't give a fuck. In the end, I get the drugs I want at prices I'm happy with.
What I'm not happy about is how the forum works.
DPR, I know you want SR to keep growing, but I think we'd all be better off if you closed of registration to new members like you did last year, and had forum accounts linked directly to buyer/vendor accounts.
LOL. You have no pot to piss in. You were the one sticking up for FF a few months ago. How'd that turn out? OHHH and now we have more. At least I'm not a bitch. Keep gargling that seed buddy. It all goes downhill from here. It's coming. Be ready when it does.
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lol this is the SoS entry for SR
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Paul McCartney is alive and well and announcing the "death of Silk Road" is somewhat premature. I am noticing a flood of really negative posts this last week bashing Silk Road and wouldn't be at all surprised if it was a campaign of LE to destroy this on-line community which depends upon ethical behavior in all it's transactions. I am a libertarian and agree that posts should not be censored, but it is the responsibility of individuals to stand up to ANY kind of bull-shit: whether it be justified or unjustified rumors. It is up to the participants to provide balance and equilibrium here on Silk Road market and forum. If anyone really believes that SR is just one big SCAM then wtf are they still here for? This incessant whining is getting really tiresome. so "excuse me while I kiss the sky" ha ha.Peace.
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1 BTC says Hassan is listening to Jimi today, that's his second reference to it in two posts
And I agree. If it's such a terrible scamming waste of time, why are you here? Must be some other agenda you have.
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Stay in escrow. It sharply reduces the chances for losing money. I'm in an issue now where a vendor just up and left. But at least I'm in escrow and will likely get my BTC back. Though, I'd rather have the drugs. ;-) The delay between getting the BTC refunded and putting in back into the market to get drugs is going to suck. Mainly because the good opiate vendors are hard to find after Pharmville left. It's hit or miss now.
Yes, I know, Vicodin sells opiates. But he doesn't have the kind I use. And I'm not that desperate yet. Besides, I was spoiled by Pharmville's relatively low prices.
Anyway, I wish something could be done about all the scams that have been popping up lately. In each case, people lost money because of finalizing early. So I guess the solution is right there.
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some perspective for you gentlemen.
buy xtc on the street, receive pipes and methbombs 90% of the time.
buy xtc on SR, receive MDMA 90% of the time.
buy coke on the street, it's 80-100% cut.
buy coke on SR, you might get only a small cut.
buy syringes on the street, well...
buy syringes on SR, you stay Hep-C negative.
We may have scammers, we may have scumbags, but if you guys have better local dealers than the general vendor collective we have here, I'm renting a flat where you live tomorrow. Just like on the street, don't trust anyone, keep your wits about you etc. but please do consider the progress tor and bitcoin have provided us.
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was tony's molly real?
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poolsclosed, I don't think many of these folks have done much real street purchasing. If they have, the experience certainly doesn't show. I think that some of those who have had plenty of real world experience are still expecting too much from SR. I think your point about the quality bears repeating. Anyone here who gets shit on the street as strong as it is here, wouldn't be here looking to buy. In 20 some years of hard drug use and living in every part of the country I can say that I have never gotten dope as good as what I've got here, not once.
I'm not gonna complain about the riots anymore, I want to encourage them. Let this last event catalyze a change in this community that doesn't just restore SR to a former glory you old heads are always getting teary eyed over, but let it evolve SR to a new place. I'm not a fan of intervention from those in authority, I see it as oppressive and counter productive, but closing registration and linking forum account to your SR account would be a wise move. It would go a long way towards keeping people honest and population explosions stress any community, online ones are no different.
At the end of the day it's whatever. I strive to be kind and thankful to the vendors I buy from and in the event that SR ceases to be, I have made friends if nothing else. If those friends are open to continuing business with me, then that's awesome, if not I understand that too.
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was tony's molly real?
I'll be level with you. I had it, and it was weak. 180mg felt like 120mg. It also contained a small black flake of some foreign substance, perhaps a synthetic rubber compound. I was told it was a transitioning batch by other SR users. Tony apologized for the flake. Take that for what it is; I provide it with absolutely no context.
poolsclosed, I don't think many of these folks have done much real street purchasing. If they have, the experience certainly doesn't show. I think that some of those who have had plenty of real world experience are still expecting too much from SR. I think your point about the quality bears repeating. Anyone here who gets shit on the street as strong as it is here, wouldn't be here looking to buy. In 20 some years of hard drug use and living in every part of the country I can say that I have never gotten dope as good as what I've got here, not once.
Amen. The truth is that there is a very sizeable minority of pasty nerds who figured out tor and bitcoin and want to buy drugs because they don't have any friends, much less any friends with connections, that come here and expect this to be the Amazon of drugs. But actually the SR is barely more complex than craigslist. :)
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It's not a selective scam. Just be careful.
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i'm sure everyone will get their letters from tony tomorrow just give it another 2 weeks then we can know for sure he was a con
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.... that come here and expect this to be the Amazon of drugs. But actually the SR is barely more complex than craigslist. :)
LOL. Very true.
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lol this is the SoS entry for SR
"SoS" is actually a scam itself, or rather say a bunch of retarded kids playing cops. "SoS" has few to no credit itself to rate whosoever.
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[quote author=RuinedAGreatThing7 link=topic=21175.msg216054#msg216054 date=133
LOL. You have no pot to piss in. You were the one sticking up for FF a few months ago. How'd that turn out? OHHH and now we have more. At least I'm not a bitch. Keep gargling that seed buddy. It all goes downhill from here. It's coming. Be ready when it does.
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Fair, I shouldn't have called you a retard, I skimmed through your post too fast. I apologize.
And by FF I assume you mean Fairydae?
Yeah, I lost some money through him, but there are plenty of others that lost a lot more.
To be honest, I barely have a job. I fund most of my purchases here on SR by reselling small amounts of what I buy. Therefore, I have a lot less to lose if I get scammed. That's just my personal mind set. When people are talking about thousands and thousands of dollars that just disappear or get stolen, I guess I just can't really grasp that, because that kind of money isn't real to me. If Tony doesn't come back, I'll be sad. But I'll be more sad about the fact that we lost a trustworthy vendor who had great product at great prices than the fact that I won't be getting the H I ordered from him.
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OP, you really need to mellow out.
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1 BTC says Hassan is listening to Jimi today, that's his second reference to it in two posts
Yeah: guilty as charged. ha ha. I find that listening to Hendrix really loud makes obsessive house cleaning so much more enjoyable. :)
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Please anyone whos been scammed take a minute to participate in this thread so we can get a real picture of the situation http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=21213.0
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scamara
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Please Tony make it not hurt anymore :'(
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was tony's molly real?
I'll be level with you. I had it, and it was weak. 180mg felt like 120mg. It also contained a small black flake of some foreign substance, perhaps a synthetic rubber compound. I was told it was a transitioning batch by other SR users. Tony apologized for the flake. Take that for what it is; I provide it with absolutely no context.
Does anyone know how pure Tony's ketamine was?