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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: rixabix on December 07, 2011, 11:27 pm

Title: Supply Rumors (UK)
Post by: rixabix on December 07, 2011, 11:27 pm
So, from time to time around here in the UK certain substances become almost impossible to get hold of on the street and that's when the rumors start flying around...

For example 2 years ago it was MDMA and loads of nasty pills started appearing and this BZP shit being fobbed off as MDMA (Was so blatent when you saw it in real life).

Just one of the rumors I heard back then was that a certain plant ingredient became illegal worldwide and that it made it really hard to make so they were looking for an alternative.

Another was that the Olympic games in China meant heightened security there and as a result, nothing was going out for a while.

At the moment it's ketamine that seems to be vanished. Many rumors mainly around India/Packistan which I believe.

It would be good if anyone that thinks they know the reasons, share them here. I love hearing the reasons and I guess it's purely due to interest and secondly liking to be the know-it-all with my mates :P

Cheers,

RixAbiX
Title: Re: Supply Rumors (UK)
Post by: Sickmix_Stanley on December 10, 2011, 02:34 pm
I don't have any hard and fast facts for the Ketamine shortage but I can confirm that my own supplier has found it harder to source large amounts having previously been able to obtain hundreds of grams at a time. He has increased the price accordingly. Of course, most dealers are on the make regardless and it has become a rip off. Most common price I'm hearing is £20 for .8g, up from £15. I too would be interested to know the facts, whatever they may be.
Title: Re: Supply Rumors (UK)
Post by: profspudhed on December 10, 2011, 04:12 pm
the japanese one youre thinking of if i remember right was the banning of saferole which kicked off a big long shortage until another route to synth was found, china im not so sure about but they cracked down a lot after the mephedrone ban and a lot of production moved to india and quality suffered and there was a slight dry spell when production was moving. im not sure on the ketamine front there does seem to be a shortage at the mo and i know a lot of it did come out of india etc in "rosewater" form so im not sure if something is hampering production or if its just that the producers who were making ket are now making MXE instead, just a guess, i know they are expanding but a lot of RC production has moved to india and there are only so many labs/chemists there to synth everything so maybe resources are spread thin at the mo
Title: Re: Supply Rumors (UK)
Post by: wowzers on December 10, 2011, 07:14 pm
There's been a bit of a crackdown on the K market both in India and at UK ports so a lot of larger domestic buyers are having trouble getting it. The Pakistani vendors are so fucking untrustworthy that most people I know have given up ordering ketamax and the like from them. Also too many 'K' users aren't at all discerning in what they stick up their noses, so lots of dealers have capitalised on this (loads of tiletamine in brizzle recently, MXE up country).

As far as MDMA goes, there was a few huge seizures of safrole in cambodia back in 2007 (upwards of 20 tons per bust), and some large seizures of MDP2P in Holland. The Chinese have take up the slack, and with their booming export economy have been churning out drums of ready-to-aminate MDP2P.
I've heard rumors about the fragrance compound floramelon being turned into MDMA but I personally can't see it being commercially viable.
I've preemptively been stocking up on a personal quantities of MDMA whenever I've got a bit of cash spare as the drought was terrible last time and there's so many new, shitty RC stims on the market that another big bust could see some horrific quality pills coming back.2 years of TFMPP/ mCPP was bad enough.