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Title: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: ukdabbler on June 28, 2013, 12:21 pm
Please post here if you have not received your order from Forever young. There has been a lot of talk surrounding this vendor on the EU heroin thread and I thought it be best if we have a thread dedicated to this issue. Please reply with the item you ordered and the date you ordered. Also any correspondence between you and forever young would be helpful.

I personally ordered 0.5 gram of heroin last thursday (20th) marked in transit 21st and he has been nothing but rude to me when I asked about getting a refund due to no show.

Thanks
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: iamcanada on June 28, 2013, 12:23 pm
SAME YO
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: ukdabbler on June 28, 2013, 12:24 pm
I've moved it into the newbie area so everyone can post but do need you all to post again please.
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: weeal on June 28, 2013, 12:35 pm
Yes i had dealings with FOREVER YOUNG
about a month ago i seen on his vender page he was doing free UK samples so when messaged him
he said pay postage and would send me a .1 tester
anyway i only sent him 0.02 coins for postage.
Well a month past & nothing so messaged asking if he sent or for coin back not much i know really
but its the principle of it.  Anyway he messaged back saying bumped and the transaction showing i sent him coin was gone as over a month
so i just thought if he that bad for .02 he was not to be trusted.
i am sorry to hear this from you  and hope sr can do something about him.
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: serenedion on June 28, 2013, 12:37 pm
.5 of strongest over a week uk to uk
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: ukdabbler on June 28, 2013, 01:37 pm
I think we should report him. Let's get everyone on here together first and then do it on the same day
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: serenedion on June 28, 2013, 02:30 pm
I think we should report him. Let's get everyone on here together first and then do it on the same day
good call have you heard from no added sugar today
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: ForumChatter on June 28, 2013, 03:40 pm
Hello friends... I just pmed on the rumor mill thread.... Are we talking about foreverjung???????

I have worked with foreverjung on non international shipping items and services through SR. I do know he is having international seizures coming in and going out through customs.... It may be a drop or labeling issue that needs to be addressed... I do not know that he is a scammer or gone rogue in means.... I know he is quite fed up with the USPS.....

I hope you get this figured my friend.
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: serenedion on June 28, 2013, 03:42 pm
Hello friends... I just pmed on the rumor mill thread.... Are we talking about foreverjung???????

I have worked with foreverjung on non international shipping items and services through SR. I do know he is having international seizures coming in and going out through customs.... It may be a drop or labeling issue that needs to be addressed... I do not know that he is a scammer or gone rogue in means.... I know he is quite fed up with the USPS.....

I hope you get this figured my friend.
no different vendor this is foreveryoung uk heroin
thanks for your interest though
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: ForumChatter on June 28, 2013, 04:18 pm
very good......
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: serenedion on June 28, 2013, 04:31 pm
Hi Guys, this is a summary of who has responded so far, and maybe not as many as I had hoped for, but I,ll leave it another day even though SR has messaged me about signing in, there is still 7 days to go.

Buyers who have had order marked "in transit" and not delivered:
Nakork (me)-  marked IT (in transit) on 21st - later admitted was posted 22nd
ukdabbler   -       ditto                            21st
Iamcanada - no details given but gather he has same issues(correct me if I am wrong)
Charas420  - bag split and FY said he would send a replacement - no show
Kendok - order  still in processing after 3 days, asked to cancel order, I more day and   he can do it himself!!
Lanard - similar to above, sat in processing for 3 day, he can cancel himself.
serenedion - not sure what the problem is other than he is not happy with FY???

If I have anything wrong or you wish to add just post below or send a PM, I am online
Changing the subject, got my 0.25g order from new German vendor JunkieXXL and it is really quite good, I will be putting up a review soon and post the link here.
Very quick to deliver too!
mine wasn't delivered either and is marked in transit
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: ForumChatter on June 28, 2013, 04:35 pm
I just did a search for his vendor account but it says he is in stealth mode... that is never a good sign when things are looking shady for you as a vendor and you go into stealth mode.
I hope you guys get this resolved with ADMIN
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: KendoK on June 28, 2013, 04:38 pm
Hi just noticed this new thread i can post on now.

Yeah i ordered 0.5g on tuesday night expecting, like last order, that during wednesday it would be marked in transit and delivered thursday. However i waited all day wed for the order to be marked in transit but nothing happened. This was when i decided to have a look on the forums to see if anyone had been having trouble with FY. I then saw a few other folks havin troubles with him so i Msgd him on SR to cancel my order. He read that msg but chose to ignore it. I have also sent a couple more, again asking FY to cancel the order. These msgs are still showing Unread.

I believe now that The man himself Forever Young has posibly been looking on the forums aswel and seen that i only had a day or so before i would have been able to cancel the order myself. Now he has gone and marked my order in Transit!!!?? So now i wont have the chance to cancel it myself. Sly or what? Or am i going to get a delivery tomorrow? I have msgd him again on SR asking why he has gone ahead with the order when i already asked him to cancel? Im sure that this alone is a breach of SR seller rules? Surely??

So, i have mailed him one more time telling him that if i get a delivery tomorrow then fair enough the guys pulled thru, and things will be sorted. But if not then i will be reporting him. I think this is fair enough we cant be scared to report someone for fear we will get bad stats. thats just givin vendors like this the chance to fuck us over! Thats why the options there to report, for times like this.

If FY is having some problems, like i said in 1 of my msgs to him, why cant he just be decent and fuckin communicate with his customers, cause im sure everyone would understand if theres a problem. This is where i do believe hes up to something cause anyone decent would have been honest with us all.

Dont know what u guys think but if my order is no show tomorrow im reporting him. 

Oh yeah and if u are reading this Forever Young, respond to my msgs please and we can try sort this out without havin to go down the report route.
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: ukdabbler on June 28, 2013, 05:33 pm
Thanks for the input everyone, especially you nakorx.

I've reported him

Thanks
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: Nakorx on June 28, 2013, 05:38 pm
I just did a search for his vendor account but it says he is in stealth mode... that is never a good sign when things are looking shady for you as a vendor and you go into stealth mode.
I hope you guys get this resolved with ADMIN

No he is not in stealth mode, probably just for International, if you change your location to UK you will be able to find him.
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: Nakorx on June 28, 2013, 05:43 pm
Thanks for the input everyone, especially you nakorx.

I've reported him.

Thanks
When you clicked on the Report button, did you answer any of the questions? And may I ask what you said, you can PM me if you want to keep it private. If you don't want to say anything then that is cool too.
Pity you jumped the gun, but perhaps it is for the best.
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: serenedion on June 28, 2013, 05:49 pm
noaddedsugar and another guy were also waiting for orders I have pm noaddedsugar not sure who the other guy was anyone know
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: HelpMeHelpYou on June 28, 2013, 06:07 pm
I wish there was a way to beat the asses of scamming fucks.
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: serenedion on June 28, 2013, 06:15 pm
I wish there was a way to beat the asses of scamming fucks.
me to but the forum is all we have
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: Lanark on June 28, 2013, 06:21 pm
I asked him to cancel my order which he did as it sat in processing for far too long. If he's out of stock he should have the common courtesy to inform people. Clearly a timewaster and I won't be dealing with him again. At least I got my coins back and I hope everyone who is waiting on product gets a delivery or a refund.
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: ukdabbler on June 28, 2013, 06:24 pm
Thanks for the input everyone, especially you nakorx.

I've reported him.

Thanks
When you clicked on the Report button, did you answer any of the questions? And may I ask what you said, you can PM me if you want to keep it private. If you don't want to say anything then that is cool too.
Pity you jumped the gun, but perhaps it is for the best.

Hey, I just selected scamming and added that a few of us haven't recieved and linked to this thread. Could you please back me up and also report. I think the more of us that report him, the more likely we are to get an answer. We need to stop this happening to other people. Also I hope they read the correspondence as he is completely breaking SR guidelines for sellers. I've never had a vendor be so rude to me and he made me feel like I'd done something wrong. It's bullshit.
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: ukdabbler on June 28, 2013, 06:25 pm
I asked him to cancel my order which he did as it sat in processing for far too long. If he's out of stock he should have the common courtesy to inform people. Clearly a timewaster and I won't be dealing with him again. At least I got my coins back and I hope everyone who is waiting on product gets a delivery or a refund.

He's not replying to my request for a refund.
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: Nakorx on June 28, 2013, 07:06 pm
How much refund did you are ask for? If you don't mind me asking.

Also, how are people going to rate his feedback, you know, the "Leave feedback here" because you get one of those even if you go to resolution.

If you don't want to tell me that is cool, just like to know, because I think he deserves to be punished for being rude to his buyers and ignoring them, to say nothing of the fact that I am almost certain we have been selectively scammed.
Anyone reckon they can produce evidence to refute that?

I am not a vindictive person, and I have never had a problem like this in all the 15 months I've been on the road but there is a line, and he has just crossed it.
If anybody reading this thinks I am being out of order then please have the courage to say so, I won't bite (LOL) :)
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: serenedion on June 28, 2013, 07:13 pm
How much refund did you are ask for? If you don't mind me asking.

Also, how are people going to rate his feedback, you know, the "Leave feedback here" because you get one of those even if you go to resolution.

If you don't want to tell me that is cool, just like to know, because I think he deserves to be punished for being rude to his buyers and ignoring them, to say nothing of the fact that I am almost certain we have been selectively scammed.
Anyone reckon they can produce evidence to refute that?

I am not a vindictive person, and I have never had a problem like this in all the 15 months I've been on the road but there is a line, and he has just crossed it.
If anybody reading this thinks I am being out of order then please have the courage to say so, I won't bite (LOL) :)
no your right to be pissed off however he "forgot" to send me a order months ago before he went off radar I gave up pm him after a while and left it then lo and behold he turns up again I make a order and he sends a .5 extra
so it seems both out of character and self defeating but who knows he is as profile states a user
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: Nakorx on June 28, 2013, 07:53 pm
Yes that is true, as I said earlier, I was one of the first to review his product when he started on SR, he used to sell on the streets. I gave him loads of advice, like vac or heat sealing the bag, PGP(which he has never bothered to learn) typing his labels.... well you get the idea.

And in return for a double sample, I wrote the very first review on the forum for him. Since then we have stayed in contact although I rarely buy off him because he can be very unreliable. On his profile he states "order before 3pm and you will have it next day"

Well that was why I placed the order in the first place - it wasn't for me though, but for a mate who was in a jam so I said I would try and help out.

So this whole thing has got out of proportion, as soon as I found out it was not just me that was having problems it was as if I kind of felt responsible for all the others in the same boat, That is why I want to know what feedback other people are going to give him, to share some the responsibility and guilt.

I want to get 100% refund and not have my stats ruined but I can't see that happening unless we act as one and already someone has reported him, even though I asked people not to.
 Not that I intended to do nothing, but that it should have been thought out first, to the last detail with the end of getting everyone a good refund and minimum damage to their stats.
Now I will have to think again but no matter, and yes, I will support you ukdabbler.

I mean, what rule/s has he actually broken?
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: serenedion on June 28, 2013, 08:08 pm
Yeah its kinda sad when you have exchanged friendly pms over time only to be fucked over
I cant see how he has broken any rules that we can prove  I guess they look at our stats and his and a overall look at uk post stats and see it dont add up that we would all lie for a wee bit of gear
I have $500 in my account and am spending more time sorting out this .1 than I am sourcing drugs to sell
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: ukdabbler on June 28, 2013, 08:36 pm
Thanks for the replies guys. I'm sorry I jumped the gun and reported, it was actually an accident. I thought when I clicked report it would give me options but it didn't, I just reported and then the options cam afterwards, so I'm sorry for that.

With regards to what rule he has broken, I believe it's classed as scamming if he claims to have sent a product and actually hasn't. I fully believe this is the case as there is no way all of us have just happened to have our post go missing.

I'm annoyed also that I'm having to spend so much time on this case but it's the principle of it and it goes against everything that silk road is about. We're all part of this community and if we don't follow the rules then this whole place will just fall apart. We need to show respect and common courtesy towards each other and it hasn't happened in this case. I don't appreciate being spoken to like shit by a vendor typing in caps and swearing.

I was very accommodating with him and offered him many chances to explain the situation but he threw it back in my face and for the record I was a regular customer and have spent a lot of money with him. I've also left him good reports on the forum and recommended people to buy from him which makes me look like a complete idiot now.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: serenedion on June 28, 2013, 08:45 pm
hear hear good sir I think you have summed up how we all feel adequately
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: Nakorx on June 28, 2013, 09:53 pm
Thanks for the replies guys. I'm sorry I jumped the gun and reported, it was actually an accident. I thought when I clicked report it would give me options but it didn't, I just reported and then the options cam afterwards, so I'm sorry for that.

With regards to what rule he has broken, I believe it's classed as scamming if he claims to have sent a product and actually hasn't. I fully believe this is the case as there is no way all of us have just happened to have our post go missing.

I'm annoyed also that I'm having to spend so much time on this case but it's the principle of it and it goes against everything that silk road is about. We're all part of this community and if we don't follow the rules then this whole place will just fall apart. We need to show respect and common courtesy towards each other and it hasn't happened in this case. I don't appreciate being spoken to like shit by a vendor typing in caps and swearing.

I was very accommodating with him and offered him many chances to explain the situation but he threw it back in my face and for the record I was a regular customer and have spent a lot of money with him. I've also left him good reports on the forum and recommended people to buy from him which makes me look like a complete idiot now.

Thanks.
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It is OK ukdabbler, I did not mean to come down on you even though that is the impression I have given. It is I that needs to apologize, so forget it  :)
But people have still not answered my question about what feedback score to give him?
No need to answer now, it is getting late and I think we should all sleep on it and talk about it tomorrow. I understand that you gave this link ukdabbler ?
That is good and is what I intend to do.
And you are right about the rules he broke, there is no way we could have all had his packages lost in the post, I should have thought of that myself - stupid me. Shows I am getting tired, been up since 5.30am.

And also you are right about the time spent on this. I've spent most of the day writing this up etc. How times flies when you are not enjoying yourself but having to justify your actions and cross referencing everything.

I am going to sign off now and I will start posting tomorrow. I am hoping that FY will read 2 PM's that I sent him, but whether he will reply ........???

The good news is that if you go to Resolution you don't have to copy and paste your PM's, the Administrator that looks at your case has  access to all the relevant correspondence, even if you have deleted them, so stay polite and do not display your anger. Not so sure about the posts though, I think they can only read what is currently written. Good night to you all and hope to hear from interested parties tomorrow. ;)
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: serenedion on June 29, 2013, 09:31 am
morning gentlemen
so whats the plan like you i dont want my stats to be ruined for such a small sum but i also dont want to pay a vendor fr scamming me so if i wont get a refund without it showing up I am going to insist that the coins go to a charity or to help[ out other buyers who are in a similar situation what are your  thoughts on this
oh and has anyone heard from no added sugar yet
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: serenedion on June 29, 2013, 10:58 am
oh and I have a couple of quid spare if any of us waiting for the fy situation to be sorted I might be able to help ut those in the greatest need so pm me
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: Nakorx on June 29, 2013, 11:13 am
The postman left a card this morning stating that there was a package for my aunt  but there was £1.09 to pay since not enough stamps on it for weight. The quickest way to collect it was to go to the sorting office  and guess what it was?
Yes, the package, a jiffy bag, from FY! :) :) :) :)  >:( >:( >:( >:(

So what do we do now? Well I can't really support ukdabbler and report him since he has done me no wrong other than not read my PM's, and he wasn't even rude to me.
But the package is well late (and he lied about it being in transit) so I am going to give
him 4/5 for that alone. I have not tried the gear yet but weight is spot on.

Going to try gear now, meantime, anyone else got their order delivered this morning?
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: serenedion on June 29, 2013, 11:22 am
The postman left a card this morning stating that there was a package for my aunt  but there was £1.09 to pay since not enough stamps on it for weight. The quickest way to collect it was to go to the sorting office  and guess what it was?
Yes, the package, a jiffy bag, from FY! :) :) :) :)  >:( >:( >:( >:(

So what do we do now? Well I can't really support ukdabbler and report him since he has done me no wrong other than not read my PM's, and he wasn't even rude to me.
But the package is well late (and he lied about it being in transit) so I am going to give
him 4/5 for that alone. I have not tried the gear yet but weight is spot on.

Going to try gear now, meantime, anyone else got their order delivered this morning?
So it looks like he is responding to pressure I am glad your sorted but as you say he lied about it being in transit and had we not started aforementioned pressure i doubt he would have sent it
4/5 is generous of you considering he attempted to scam you and has clearly selectively scammed the rest of us but i understand your position and wish you all the best   
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: Nakorx on June 29, 2013, 11:39 am
Yes - well I have not finished yet!
 Besides I have been asking what we should give as a feedback score and no one has answered, except you "serenedion", just now!!

Just about to shoot it up so will get back to you ASAP. Doesn't look much different to local IRL gear. But looks can be deceiving.
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: Nakorx on June 29, 2013, 12:20 pm
Have just done a massive hit (by my standards) and it hardly touched the sides as they say. Here is a short review:

Weight: Spot on a 0.5g (and before you think it, my scales are regularly calibrated and have new batteries) 5/5

Just above street gear in terms of quality.
Dissolves without any residue in Vit C when heated. But the buzz is average IMO. 3/5 not sure about legs as only just done the first hit. Have not tried smoking it.

Packing - not very good, not heat sealed or vac sealed . And I had to pay the extra £1.09 since there wasn't sufficient on the jiffy bag :o  >:(  2/5

Stealth - could be improved by typing address labels and heat sealing bag. OK for domestic, and maybe vendor has different international packing method.

Communications - Awful, did not respond to PM's in a timely manner, sometimes never, even though he had read them.
Just checked my "sent box" on SR and there are two still in bold lettering, meaning (for newbies that did not know this) that they have not been read! 1/5

What have I left out? So far it amounts to 11/20????
Anybody care to comment on above - do be honest - you won't shock me and I maybe getting too old for this anyway.
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: serenedion on June 29, 2013, 01:14 pm
Have just done a massive hit (by my standards) and it hardly touched the sides as they say. Here is a short review:

Weight: Spot on a 0.5g (and before you think it, my scales are regularly calibrated and have new batteries) 5/5

Just above street gear in terms of quality.
Dissolves without any residue in Vit C when heated. But the buzz is average IMO. 3/5 not sure about legs as only just done the first hit. Have not tried smoking it.

Packing - not very good, not heat sealed or vac sealed . And I had to pay the extra £1.09 since there wasn't sufficient on the jiffy bag :o  >:(  2/5

Stealth - could be improved by typing address labels and heat sealing bag. OK for domestic, and maybe vendor has different international packing method.

Communications - Awful, did not respond to PM's in a timely manner, sometimes never, even though he had read them.
Just checked my "sent box" on SR and there are two still in bold lettering, meaning (for newbies that did not know this) that they have not been read! 1/5

What have I left out? So far it amounts to 11/20????
Anybody care to comment on above - do be honest - you won't shock me and I maybe getting too old for this anyway.
Sounds like he tried to buy you off with his lowest quality gear I got my .2 off of best on its pricy but a lovely smoke and always 24hr
In regards to where we want to take this perhaps we can draft a joint pm from all of us and try one last appeal to fy if we get no response then a joint complaint from us all to admin
anyone else want to contribute
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: Nakorx on June 29, 2013, 01:29 pm
I am up for that, one way or another!
Now if you don't mind me asking serenedion, I see you have a refund rate of 7.41%, care to explain how that came about in terms of how it got calculated, not the scumbags involved but how Admin got to that figure (if they gave you an explanation).

I have been trying to find out for days, since this FY business began, because at one point it was suggested to me that it would be better to take the loss than have your stats fucked up.
I don't know where that guys head was at, but clearly he was a sandwich short of a pick nick IMO, but I can see where it could apply!
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: serenedion on June 29, 2013, 02:01 pm
I am up for that, one way or another!
Now if you don't mind me asking serenedion, I see you have a refund rate of 7.41%, care to explain how that came about in terms of how it got calculated, not the scumbags involved but how Admin got to that figure (if they gave you an explanation).

I have been trying to find out for days, since this FY business began, because at one point it was suggested to me that it would be better to take the loss than have your stats fucked up.
I don't know where that guys head was at, but clearly he was a sandwich short of a pick nick IMO, but I can see where it could apply!
glad you asked about my stats cos its been doing my fucking head in
I ordered 30 grams of M.D.M.A from space factory my refund rate at the time was 0 I had been letting shit slide in order to maintain perfect stats in the hope of hitting $10000 and 100 transfers with a perfect record
but I thought $600 was way to much to loose and couldnt risk a reship so there you have it one refund of 50% - $300 after 1 year of giving vendors the benefit of the doubt and for all I know he never sent it
so you can imagine how much it pisses me off to be fucked over again
but what the hay
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: ukdabbler on June 29, 2013, 02:16 pm
Hi everyone,

I'm out at the moment and on my mobile so I'll keep it short and sweet then reply proper later.

I still haven't received anything from FY.

Nakorx to answer you I currently will be giving a 1/5 feedback score.

If it arrives then 2/5

The whole transaction has been a nightmare and my worst on SR yet after over 100 transactions.

Money is really tight for me at the moment and every little helps. I can't afford to just throw away however much half a gram was.

Sorry for any typos, in a rush and out and about.

Take care everyone
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: Nakorx on June 29, 2013, 02:37 pm
Fair enough ukdabbler, I was thinking 2/5 and it has arrived so we seem to be singing from the same sheet as they say.

Back to your stats serenedion;
if taken literally, you got a refund of $300, and you had  $9390.04 so before this TX happened you would have had $9390.0 - $300.0)= $9090.0. (ignoring cents)

Now ($300/$9090) * 100 to give percentage = (300 * 100)/9090 = 3.3% and not 7.41% :( :( :(   :o :o :o
You can see the mathematician in me if you look hard enough(LOL) :)
So WTF is going on?
Keep you all posted here on this Fred.
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: Nakorx on June 29, 2013, 06:18 pm
Well no one else has contributed to this thread? Do you want me to compose the global PM and submit here for review or have you guys cut me out since I have recieved something from FY?

I assure you all I am on your side, perhaps you all all busy IRL?
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: serenedion on June 29, 2013, 06:43 pm
Well no one else has contributed to this thread? Do you want me to compose the global PM and submit here for review or have you guys cut me out since I have recieved something from FY?

I assure you all I am on your side, perhaps you all all busy IRL?
amigo we will never cut out a brother
lets work out a message to send from us all
Title: Re: Multiple customers have not recieved orders from FOREVER YOUNG - POST HERE
Post by: ukdabbler on June 29, 2013, 07:32 pm
Hey, sorry I'm very busy today, it's my partners birthday and she's got my absolute attention as you can understand!

Nakorx of course you're not cut out. You've been very helpful throughout this whole process.

IF you are willing to compose a PM then that would be great and very helpful. We can always amend or add parts if necessary.

I wonder why only yours has turned up. I wish mine would!

Thanks
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Post by: serenedion on June 29, 2013, 07:45 pm
you go enjoy amigo I shall do a rough draft on behalf of us all if thats ok and you can all amend and discuss as you see fit
is it agreed that we will pm fy before taking action if so i shall set about voicing our cocensus and we can take it from there
am not trying to be a authority in any way so please jump in and tell me what you think
and thanks uk dab for your effort in this matter
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Post by: Nakorx on June 29, 2013, 09:52 pm

I wish the Admin and DPR would do away with the guest viewing facility and make everyone register and sign in before they can read the posts.
Keep meaning to start a new thread on it but always seem to forget.

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Post by: serenedion on June 29, 2013, 11:40 pm
cool nakorx will do it in the morning am to gouchy right now
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Post by: Nakorx on June 30, 2013, 10:41 am
Just a bump to get it near the top for when you guys get on here!
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Post by: serenedion on June 30, 2013, 12:00 pm
Please edit or punctuate as you all see fit there maybe things you wish to add or scale down
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Post by: ukdabbler on June 30, 2013, 10:44 pm
I am involved in this but as I have already mentioned I've been away all weekend doing other things and very busy. My partners birthday has taken precedence over this matter. I started this thread and posted on other threads trying to bring people together so I'd be seriously pissed off if that was aimed at me in any way at all.

I will be on here in the morning and able to get more involved.

The message looks good to me by the way, thanks for putting that together guys.
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Post by: charas420 on July 01, 2013, 03:40 pm
Hi

I posted this in another thread, I will post it here too. I am wondering if this might be where all the missing orders are, what do you think??


I don't have anything on order except the letter from FOREVERyoung that is missing in action.
When the mail came today I had a card from RM saying there was an item for me at their office,
it had not been delivered as the postage on it was 9p short. I can collect it or have it delivered again
if I pay the 9p plus a pound charge.
I wonder if this is my Fy letter, it might explain where all the other deliveries to other members have gone too.
I cannot collect it until  tomorrow, I just wondered what you lot thought??? please.

C
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Post by: ukdabbler on July 01, 2013, 05:44 pm
Hi there guys,

Hope you all had a good weekend?

Nakorx, sorry I just realised my name was mentioned, my bad, I was in a rush.

My resolution option became available today. I'm holding off as I believe we can get a better resolution as a conglomerate. Will you be sending the message tonight?

Has anyone's turned up?

It's very interested what charas has mentioned but I still don't think mine is going to arrive.

Cheers guys.
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Post by: serenedion on July 01, 2013, 08:13 pm
Hi

I posted this in another thread, I will post it here too. I am wondering if this might be where all the missing orders are, what do you think??


I don't have anything on order except the letter from FOREVERyoung that is missing in action.
When the mail came today I had a card from RM saying there was an item for me at their office,
it had not been delivered as the postage on it was 9p short. I can collect it or have it delivered again
if I pay the 9p plus a pound charge.
I wonder if this is my Fy letter, it might explain where all the other deliveries to other members have gone too.
I cannot collect it until  tomorrow, I just wondered what you lot thought??? please.

C
interesting my 10grams are also in the post office with that note only i figured it was a sting but i have put paranoia aside and paid on line to have it redelivered
I cant see how a first class stamp wont cover a small package its meant to cover 100 grams
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Post by: serenedion on July 01, 2013, 08:35 pm
Hi

I posted this in another thread, I will post it here too. I am wondering if this might be where all the missing orders are, what do you think??


I don't have anything on order except the letter from FOREVERyoung that is missing in action.
When the mail came today I had a card from RM saying there was an item for me at their office,
it had not been delivered as the postage on it was 9p short. I can collect it or have it delivered again
if I pay the 9p plus a pound charge.
I wonder if this is my Fy letter, it might explain where all the other deliveries to other members have gone too.
I cannot collect it until  tomorrow, I just wondered what you lot thought??? please.

C
interesting my 10grams are also in the post office with that note only i figured it was a sting but i have put paranoia aside and paid on line to have it redelivered
I cant see how a first class stamp wont cover a small package its meant to cover 100 grams
to clarify it wasnt from fy
also my auto finalise is up soon soon so whats the plan people
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Post by: ukdabbler on July 01, 2013, 11:27 pm
I'll be online around midday so we can sort this out.
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Post by: moopydog on July 02, 2013, 12:38 am
daz mess up
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Post by: ukdabbler on July 02, 2013, 12:26 pm
I've had a slip through about postage that needs paying. This could be it.
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Post by: serenedion on July 02, 2013, 12:50 pm
I've had a slip through about postage that needs paying. This could be it.
This is fucking strange I just posted my slip with the £1.09 in stamps was that how much yours was
its just i am waiting for to orders to arrive fy .1 and 10 grams off another guy
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Post by: ukdabbler on July 02, 2013, 12:53 pm
I've had a slip through about postage that needs paying. This could be it.
This is fucking strange I just posted my slip with the £1.09 in stamps was that how much yours was
its just i am waiting for to orders to arrive fy .1 and 10 grams off another guy

Is the post late or they've just not turned up? I'm worried...

Yes it was £1.09.
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Post by: serenedion on July 02, 2013, 01:01 pm
I've had a slip through about postage that needs paying. This could be it.
This is fucking strange I just posted my slip with the £1.09 in stamps was that how much yours was
its just i am waiting for to orders to arrive fy .1 and 10 grams off another guy

Is the post late or they've just not turned up? I'm worried...

Yes it was £1.09.
dont worry they either do a controlled delivery or they send the police round they wont give you a option of sending stamps for a resend
this has happened to a few people recently they change the rules and the value of stamps without telling anybody and it varies from location to location
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Post by: ukdabbler on July 02, 2013, 01:30 pm
I've had a slip through about postage that needs paying. This could be it.
This is fucking strange I just posted my slip with the £1.09 in stamps was that how much yours was
its just i am waiting for to orders to arrive fy .1 and 10 grams off another guy

Is the post late or they've just not turned up? I'm worried...

Yes it was £1.09.
dont worry they either do a controlled delivery or they send the police round they wont give you a option of sending stamps for a resend
this has happened to a few people recently they change the rules and the value of stamps without telling anybody and it varies from location to location

Phew, thanks. You've put my mind at rest, I was starting to panic. So is this FY's package?
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Post by: charas420 on July 02, 2013, 01:39 pm

I went this morning and collected my item & it was in deed the letter from
Fy, it seems he has been putting 9 pence short on his postage.
I paid the 9p with a £1 charge and got my letter no problem.
in and out in less than a minute.
How about the rest of you ?
C
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Post by: ukdabbler on July 02, 2013, 03:39 pm
Yup I got it!
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Post by: serenedion on July 02, 2013, 04:00 pm
Yup I got it!

oops mine was under a false name so I had to send the card back with stamps as payment so I still don't know who its from as I have 2 outstanding orders
might have to give fy a apology of sorts I mean we were in the right cos we didn't receive anything and he was in the right cos he sent them but it is his responsibility to check the postage
so where to from here who has got and who still waits the plot thickens
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Post by: ukdabbler on July 02, 2013, 05:09 pm
To be honest I never actually accused him of not sending it in my messages to him. It still doesn't justify his behavior. I'm just glad I finally got it.
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Post by: serenedion on July 03, 2013, 07:53 am
cool nakrox will remove it now
thanks for all your effort on this matter and you ukdabbler
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Post by: serenedion on July 03, 2013, 06:59 pm
Had another hectic day made better (or worse, depending on your point of view, with the arrival of Golden Horse's No.4, the best I've had since traveling and staying in India back in the 70's and again in the 80's. But that is another story.

I think we have to write a letter almost apologetic in tone, but pointing out  how it got to that stage through his bad customer service and not getting the correct postage rates sorted.

 I also think that it would be better if it did not come from me although I am prepared to write it and then someone can copy and paste the whole "letter" into  their PM to FY. Then we do not have to worry about more damage to FY from public posts.
What do people think?
nd
yeah your right i wrote similar sentiments a while back and am glad you are of a like mind
I am happy to send it to fy but i think you should write it as your turn of phrase surpasses mine (no smiley faces though)
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Post by: ukdabbler on July 03, 2013, 09:21 pm
Hi Guys,

Sorry I've not been around. Been at alton towers all day.

I agree that the letter should have an apologetic tone but without kissing too much ass. We shouldn't forget that he was rather rude to some of us and didn't work with us to resolve the issue in a way that I would expect from a vendor. Personally I shan't be ordering from him again and by not putting enough stamps on the packages drew attention to them which was unnecessary and considering the contents is very dangerous.

Anyway I'm glad this is all over and I'd like to thank you both personally for your help in this matter. (Nakorx and Serenedion)

I have work commitments tomorrow so won't be around but I'll check in when I can.

Take care guys. Just to let you know I trust in your decisions whatever you decide to message him.
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Post by: Nakorx on July 04, 2013, 08:58 am

Hi serenedion, when do you hope to to receive your letter from RM that didn't have enough postage?
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Post by: serenedion on July 04, 2013, 10:38 am
Thanks man I am sure it will be fine
not sure when to expect the letter but I will update you as soon as
they say to give them 5 working days and i sent it tuesday
i was joking in my last post about no smileys I always forget sarcasm does not translate in text and i refuse to say lol or use smileys ironically
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Post by: Nakorx on July 05, 2013, 11:47 am
You got my Pm  to FY yet?
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Post by: Nakorx on July 05, 2013, 06:02 pm
It has gone very quiet on this thread!!
You guys OK? Maybe just tied up IRL?
Serenedion, would sure like to know if you got my PM OK and whether you hav sent it on yet?
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Post by: serenedion on July 07, 2013, 11:40 am
It has gone very quiet on this thread!!
You guys OK? Maybe just tied up IRL?
Serenedion, would sure like to know if you got my PM OK and whether you hav sent it on yet?

hi sorry i should have let you guys know was away doing family stuff
havent got your pm nakrox can you send it again
got my fy letter