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Title: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: doctor on November 03, 2011, 02:36 am
He is caiming to sell "WoW" made with needlepoint at 120. says he's been at this for months yet no pgp. claims to be on other sites and sos, provides no verifiable information.

i'd hold off on ordering from him.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: BlackOps89 on November 03, 2011, 03:21 am
Thanks for the heads up man
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: supernova9 on November 03, 2011, 03:33 am
I have an order in transit.   I choose to trust people until they give me a reason not to, which I guess makes me an easy target for scams.  Anyhow, will let you know how it turns out.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: BlackOps89 on November 03, 2011, 03:56 am
as long as you have not released funds/finalized early you are covered
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: rule175 on November 03, 2011, 04:41 am
Yea, I was debating ordering from him, but the lack of PGP was a definite deal breaker.  Also I noticed he took down his other blotters that he had.  I believe they were either 150 mics or 100 mics, not WoW. 

It's weird that he has one order that has supposedly finalized early. =/

Good luck on your order. =]
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: 2stoned on November 03, 2011, 04:53 pm
I PMed with him a couple of times. seems like a nice guy.
asked him to set up pgp but he has no clue how to do this, he says.
well, unless there is some feedback coming in I will not order.

Smilebit still haunts me, and he seemed nice, too.

stay in escrow, guys!!!!!

I so hope this guy is legit!
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: psychedelicbees1 on November 04, 2011, 06:14 am
supernova9, I also tend to trust people but i've lost more money than I really could afford to because of that.  However, unnamedgrower has been great to work with so far and I have an order in transit as well.  There is a 10-strip of the 100 ug design prints he had up.   I tried giving him a link to an easy PGP guide but still haven't seen anything, and when I asked for his other forum it was a topix forum... all of this was after the package was marked in transit though.  Here's hoping I finally get some acid from here as my IRL vial guy has stopped his business, a shame really $400 strong vials was a great deal! I was hoping it would keep coming to share the love, but like everyone else it seems no hope.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: 2stoned on November 04, 2011, 04:54 pm
psychedelicbees1, somebody's got to do it, eh?

please keep us updated on shipping and quality,  I so want to buy from this guy.
Did you stay in escrow?
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: psychedelicbees1 on November 04, 2011, 06:05 pm
^^ of course I did it all through escrow.  He didn't even ask me to release early, so I'm surprised one person did... also on another thread about him he said himself he will never ask for an out of escrow transaction.  I should be able to give you guys an update this weekend sometime.  i will let everyone know when it arrives and how the product is once I have my friend try it out.. I figured it's the least I could do since he's letting me send stuff to his house :)
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: bduckz on November 04, 2011, 06:27 pm
hmm, I hope this seller comes through. Can't really scam very easily if it's through escrow, so it may be legit.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: doctor on November 05, 2011, 11:03 pm
either way, he is INCREDIBLY ignorant of both procedure and his product.

WoW is WHITE FLUFF on white stock, it is NEVER needlepoint....

same reason i was tipped off to smilebit.. no one with access to one will waste time sourcing the other, he claimed to have WoW he had laid himself, but then sent off for needlepoint vials? ludicrous
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: doctor on November 06, 2011, 03:29 am
I'd suggest eating before releasing....

His papers isn't even traditional wow paper, it's graph paper... seems to me he took enboom's stuff and is reselling it or it's just plain graphing paper. if i'm wrong i'll gladly eat my own words :-P

I sent him a pm with the accusations before i started this thread, he still hasn't replied. I offered to do a thorough review for here and for SoS, for PAID product, of course. If he ever responds.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: 2stoned on November 06, 2011, 05:00 pm
well, I think every responsible seller should set up pgp.
So we, as buyers, are protected.
If they don't or they are not able to, SR is not the place to deal with stuff.
I mean you do not have to be a computer wizard to set it all up -
it just takes some time but its well worth it!
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: elcid on November 06, 2011, 11:17 pm
I purchased some of the WoW blotter and some of the artwork blotter from UnnamedGrower. I received it from Canada to the US in about 5 days. The packaging was secure and the products looked legit, and he included some extra hits. However, after trying multiple hits from each batch, I can report that this is definitely not LSD. It has something on it that made my tongue tingle, but there certainly was no tripping. I don't know about him being a scammer or just mistaken in his product, but I have my orders in escrow and he never asked me to release early or anything. I have written to him and am waiting for a response. I will keep you guys updated.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: c45p3r on November 06, 2011, 11:32 pm
that is a shame!
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: PsiloTRON on November 07, 2011, 12:12 am
"120ug doses would raise a red flag to me, first of all the way LSD is laid, it's easier to lay in 100ug doses just from doing simple math... Breaking up a gram into 120ug doses would prove more difficult or just more time consuming." blah blah blah... Sorry my head is all over the place today, I'm just saying that someone laying 120ug doses is highly unlikely... 100ug doses is the easiest to lay and is the standard for "family wow fluff" as for needle point LSD... "LucySkyDiamond" is the only vendor who carries it as far as I know. I've tried many vendors LSD and after trying "TheMunchies" WOW Fluff I would Definetly say his is true "100ug wow fluff" maybe even stronger... Now after trying his wow fluff (which wasn't my first time, I've been using LSD since the early 90's") ...I set time aside to try "LucySkyDiamond's" needles point LSD @150ug per dose. He sent me 1.5 hits totaling 150ug, I took one hit(100ug of needle point) to compare it to "Themunchies" wow fluff accurately... The trip was very very nice, beautiful! Extremely clean trip and right on par with wow fluff! I had amazing visuals and insight... I can Definetly say that both "Themunchies" and "LucySkyDiamond" have genuine pure LSD at 100ug per dose or higher. The only other vendor who's provided me with genuine wow fluff is "doctor" but I don't think he has any at the moment. Just my opinion on SR's LSD vendors... I've tried other vendors products and have been disappointed... I only purchase from "Themunchies" now since he's in the states and is a great business man. Don't be a cheap fuck and don't buy someones LSD because "I can get hits for $8 a pop" no! I know some people are used to paying no more than $10/hit but times are changing! LSD supply is almost non existent to most and if you stumble upon quality product... Don't be a cheap fuck and pass on it! Good product costs more! A friend's "frien" asked me if he could purchase a hit from me and I said "sure, $20..." he said "no way man! I never pay more than $10 per hit!" so I said ok here's your ten dollar hit and gave him half a hit. He bitchingly took it and an hour later he said "dude! That acid is so not bad!" trying to down play it... I said "no so bad... WTF! It's BOMB LSD!" he wanted more and I charged him $30 for a hit since he was trying to down play it, but he didn't even think twice when he paid me the $30 since he knew it was bomb! ....blah blah blah... Don't be cheap folks! Good product cost a Prety penny, peace.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: doctor on November 07, 2011, 03:31 am
If it made you tingle it's probably an nbome, as they tend to numb your mouth like cocaine.

What prints were they? are they the ones available as art?  or i think enboom sold some printed blotters that he had to recall because they turned out to be weak... tthe tingling+no trip might be due to be one of these....

I'd suggest someoen  communicate with enboom and the other sellers of bloterrable RCs and see if they recently sold to his general area, he probably doesn't know how to lay himself.

I'm just glad he turned out to be from far away from me, i was afraid the timing of my problem with whistle blowing him might have been seen as some form of scapegoating if he turned out to be from my general area :-P although that wa  unlikely.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: Cosmic Charlie on November 07, 2011, 04:27 am
I'd suggest eating before releasing....

His papers isn't even traditional wow paper, it's graph paper... seems to me he took enboom's stuff and is reselling it or it's just plain graphing paper. if i'm wrong i'll gladly eat my own words :-P

I sent him a pm with the accusations before i started this thread, he still hasn't replied. I offered to do a thorough review for here and for SoS, for PAID product, of course. If he ever responds.

What is SoS? Ive heard others mention it but I am clueless.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: elcid on November 07, 2011, 07:09 pm
Well, no reply yet from UnnamedGrower. I agree with Psiltotron about themunchies. He is the real deal and is stateside. I've tried his product and was quite impressed. I've also had some stuff from Regular who is in the Netherlands. It got to me in 5 days and blew my mind. The strength is probably about the same as fas as themunchies, but it was definately a different kind of trip. Very smooth and mellow, but potent. I would recommend him to others, but don't see any listings for him anymore. But I do have a shipment headed my way from themunchies (Yay!).
As far as the artwork goes, I couldn't really tell because the strip didn't make a full picture. He said he was selling Homer's and Kool-Aids. Mine is dark colored. It was definitely run through a professional perforation machine. I had the same thought about it being nbome.
Like I said, I still have no reply from UnnamedGrower. I have another 3 days till I can hit the resolve option. I will let you guys know what happened. Wish me luck.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: lookinurmind on November 07, 2011, 07:54 pm
So I got the kool-aids and the WoW blotters from unnamed grower today. Oddly the WoW's are prefforated... not sure if that's normal. The kool-aid ink is a little smeared from obviously coming in contact with some sort of liquid. what that might be, who knows. I'm a little bit reluctant to try them. After having such an amazingly clean trip from the munchies idk if I want to try anything else  Has anyone tried them yet?
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: hillybilly2 on November 07, 2011, 10:51 pm
Howdy guys,
                     OK just received my 5 pc order of wow and nice that he threw in an extra. Paper actually looks normal to me and not cheap or graph paper but actual blotter. Not the pillowy like wows i have seen before but in the normal range of thickness for blotter. After all this talk about the vendor and the other thread with links to claims of rcs and such i am waiting for a fresh batch of Erhlichs reagent to test before actually eating any. He does seem quite rookie to me. Although he accepted money paks on topix, he had a hard time converting the one i sent him. I had to ask a couple times if it worked for him before he admitted that he could not get it to work.  Another big tip i should have noticed was he shows his stash in front of aluminum foil. Damn if my tabs did not come nicely folded into the damn foil.  OK rookies dont store your shit in foil. It is a reactive and sensitive acid tartrate salt.  Heat, light, moisture, to some extent oxygen and contact with metals can greatly degrade the lovely molecule.

Hilly
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: doctor on November 07, 2011, 11:30 pm
ok... given the foil reference, i SERIOUSLY believe he knows all about shipping from ordering from someone here that DOES NOT sell acid.

I'm sending said vendor a message to ask if he's sent any large quantities to canada. He is VERY strict about not having his stuff passed as something it's not, as well he should be. The crap people try to pass as acid has a MUCH higher body load and increases pressure a WHOLE lot more than acid... soemone with heart problems or hell, someone who has consumed some other crap or even just huge amounts of DOx that would be normal acid doses might have very very serious problems

ther eare reports of DOx overdoses requiring amputation.. NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NTO NOT fun at all. trust the guy in medical school, you don't want this shit being passed as acid!

edit: just to be  clear, i'm not saying those substances shouldn't be sold or consumed... just saying they should not be passed off as acid, which people assume you can it in insane quantities and not be in physical danger(ever seen someone eat half a sheet? i seriously think THAT much is a waste... the purpose is to spread it, not bogart it!)
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: psychedelicbees1 on November 08, 2011, 12:40 am
I got my artwork tabs today.  pretty amateur packaging, but he threw in a free one.  However, my friend ate two 4 hours ago and isn't feeling anything. I think these are bunk, not even the RC other people seem to be getting.  So is there a way to go to the resolution center early?  I had really great communication with him so it's a shame that this had to happen, but I don't feel it's unfair to pay for it as it is false advertising since this is not what I ordered!
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: elcid on November 08, 2011, 06:35 am
I totally agree with everyone else. This is bunk being passed off as LSD. I wish I could get early resolution on this one.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: lurkingGent on November 08, 2011, 07:03 am
now you've got me really suspicious. I haven't received, but I think I'm going to resolve right away if he doesn't give me a response to my message.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: BlackOps89 on November 08, 2011, 09:23 am
I purchased some of the WoW blotter and some of the artwork blotter from UnnamedGrower. I received it from Canada to the US in about 5 days. The packaging was secure and the products looked legit, and he included some extra hits. However, after trying multiple hits from each batch, I can report that this is definitely not LSD. It has something on it that made my tongue tingle, but there certainly was no tripping. I don't know about him being a scammer or just mistaken in his product, but I have my orders in escrow and he never asked me to release early or anything. I have written to him and am waiting for a response. I will keep you guys updated.

its NBOMe if it tingles fucking arsehole how dare he!
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: bduckz on November 08, 2011, 03:13 pm
If it's nbome, it's no active on the tounge right? I have some sitting between my teeth and gums right now. Guess we shall see if anything happens. Regardless, I don't think it's acid.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: bduckz on November 08, 2011, 06:49 pm
Ok. Ive never had nbome before but I believe that is what's on this blotter. I only took one and I'm feeling very mild effects right now. It sort of feels like an acid come up to me. But it hasn't really manifested into anything else. I suppose it could be really weak acid, but I'm leaning more towards it being a research chem.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: supernova9 on November 08, 2011, 07:13 pm
Ok. Ive never had nbome before but I believe that is what's on this blotter. I only took one and I'm feeling very mild effects right now. It sort of feels like an acid come up to me. But it hasn't really manifested into anything else. I suppose it could be really weak acid, but I'm leaning more towards it being a research chem.

I'll be interested to see how this turns out for you.  I've ordered 5 test kits. 

Has anyone taken any of UG's blotter and really believe it is LSD? 
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: bduckz on November 09, 2011, 11:40 pm
So I can pretty much confirm it's some sort of Research chem. My mouth was completely numb along with some friends I let try them. Not just bitter numb. The visuals were rather ridiculous and almost overwhelming. I tired some on the tounge and they didn't work so I tried them bucally as is suggested for nbombe. Terrible body load. It was an experience for sure, but positive it's not acid.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: bduckz on November 10, 2011, 03:50 am
Oh word. Yeah im a little unexperienced when it comes to those type of chems. Havent tried nbome before so you are right it could be something else without a doubt.
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: lurkingGent on November 10, 2011, 04:17 am
decided to resolve my order. with all the suspicious activity being reported in this thread (and still not receiving my product after more than 10 days of delivery, especially considering the proximity), I'm not sure about this guy anymore. I've messaged him in respect to all the talk on this thread, with him only to reassure me that people are talking crap about him and his stuff is legit. hopefully all goes well with the resolution
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: SRTRAVLER on November 10, 2011, 11:26 am
I noticed that unnmaedgrower showed up right when funinapackage disappeared.  coincidence?
Title: Re: careful with unnamed grower
Post by: TFMP on January 05, 2012, 10:17 pm
"120ug doses would raise a red flag to me, first of all the way LSD is laid, it's easier to lay in 100ug doses just from doing simple math... Breaking up a gram into 120ug doses would prove more difficult or just more time consuming." blah blah blah... Sorry my head is all over the place today, I'm just saying that someone laying 120ug doses is highly unlikely... 100ug doses is the easiest to lay and is the standard for "family wow fluff" as for needle point LSD... "LucySkyDiamond" is the only vendor who carries it as far as I know. I've tried many vendors LSD and after trying "TheMunchies" WOW Fluff I would Definetly say his is true "100ug wow fluff" maybe even stronger... Now after trying his wow fluff (which wasn't my first time, I've been using LSD since the early 90's") ...I set time aside to try "LucySkyDiamond's" needles point LSD @150ug per dose. He sent me 1.5 hits totaling 150ug, I took one hit(100ug of needle point) to compare it to "Themunchies" wow fluff accurately... The trip was very very nice, beautiful! Extremely clean trip and right on par with wow fluff! I had amazing visuals and insight... I can Definetly say that both "Themunchies" and "LucySkyDiamond" have genuine pure LSD at 100ug per dose or higher. The only other vendor who's provided me with genuine wow fluff is "doctor" but I don't think he has any at the moment. Just my opinion on SR's LSD vendors... I've tried other vendors products and have been disappointed... I only purchase from "Themunchies" now since he's in the states and is a great business man. Don't be a cheap fuck and don't buy someones LSD because "I can get hits for $8 a pop" no! I know some people are used to paying no more than $10/hit but times are changing! LSD supply is almost non existent to most and if you stumble upon quality product... Don't be a cheap fuck and pass on it! Good product costs more! A friend's "frien" asked me if he could purchase a hit from me and I said "sure, $20..." he said "no way man! I never pay more than $10 per hit!" so I said ok here's your ten dollar hit and gave him half a hit. He bitchingly took it and an hour later he said "dude! That acid is so not bad!" trying to down play it... I said "no so bad... WTF! It's BOMB LSD!" he wanted more and I charged him $30 for a hit since he was trying to down play it, but he didn't even think twice when he paid me the $30 since he knew it was bomb! ....blah blah blah... Don't be cheap folks! Good product cost a Prety penny, peace.

Very good (and true) read there +1

I had LSD from almost all European vendors on SR and gotta say that the one from Lucy Sky Diamond was the clear winner, it's beautiful every time and gets me visuals like nothing else. $25 for a hit might seem a lot but for this quality I'd pay more if I had to. Unfortunately she/he isn't selling anymore. I remember that they told me that they are only selling to get some btc in order to buy their weed on SR and it won't be a regular thing. Let's hope they run out of coins soon and will list again :)