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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: BigBill6778 on April 20, 2012, 11:35 pm
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OK I have had enough of this crap I sell Jamaican Oil at fair prices I have noticed that 80% of the vendors selling oil are CLAIMING IT AS HASH OIL(BULLSHIT)unless this product is made from Afghani Black or Napalese Black Hash or ANY HASH IT IS NOT HASH OIL.You are being scammed by these vendors any oil made from weed(and it doesn't matter what kind of weed) it is weed oil plain and simple stop getting ripped off for your Bitcoins.I have seen 1 impressive oil on here and it is thx1142 cherry oil all the others are just knock offs unless there is a 5 step program making this you are just smoking weed oil so please be careful spending your coins for knock off oils
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perhaps it's a matter of semantics? I mean... they could be referring to their finished product as a type of hash, not the other way around?
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any oil made from alcohol base and weed is weed oil Hash oil is made from hash thats why you will find shitloads of hard black hash around is because it has been soaked for an extraction.Any oil the starts with weed and alcohol is an iso-oil and called weed oil you need ether or hexane to make true honey oils and they have to been washed with sulpheric acid to convert the inactive CBD to active it takes about 5 washes and recooks to accomplish a clear honey oil. All Iam saying if your oil is made from hash call it hash oil BUT if it is made from weed and iso-alcohol then say it is weed oil
there is a big difference in the 4 kinds of oils available on the markets weed oil,hash oil,cherry oil & honey oil
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Bigbill,
Hey man! Could you be bothered explaining the difference in the 4 different kinds of oils? Ive tried Google, and all I can find is a butane extracted oil.. Which one is that?
FB
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BigBill,
You sound like you know hat you are talking about.
I would be interested in a further explanation too.
If you don't mind I'll copy, and paste in the Cannabis Vendor FAQ.
I alway thought hash oil was any high thc product, made by various methods.
I noticed hash budder turns to oil rather quickly.
It's seems they want a lot of money for a product made from scrapes.
I would be interested as well about your oil.
Is it decarb'ed, can I eat it? or just smoke it?
How much thc level? CBD?
What was the solvent used, iso's, and butane's worry me?
Inquiring minds want to know ;)
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I alway thought hash oil was any high thc product, made by various methods.
This is correct. If hash is made from weed, then why would not a oily hashlike substance made from weed be called hash oil. To say that BHO isn't a true hash oil because it's made from weed is fucking retarded.
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I alway thought hash oil was any high thc product, made by various methods.
This is correct. If hash is made from weed, then why would not a oily hashlike substance made from weed be called hash oil. To say that BHO isn't a true hash oil because it's made from weed is fucking retarded.
Also isn't the thc content of the extracting contents really what matters... like 4 oz of trim or 1 oz of hash would produce the same oil? correct me if i'm wrong
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I alway thought hash oil was any high thc product, made by various methods.
This is correct. If hash is made from weed, then why would not a oily hashlike substance made from weed be called hash oil. To say that BHO isn't a true hash oil because it's made from weed is fucking retarded.
Also isn't the thc content of the extracting contents really what matters... like 4 oz of trim or 1 oz of hash would produce the same oil? correct me if i'm wrong
Yeah, if it's done well I think it's so high percentage thc that it doesn't really matter where it comes from. I have never heard of oil made from hash. I'm sure it's been done, but it is not the norm or standard anywhere I know. Not that I know everything...
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THC = THC or am I wrong?
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WEED OIL
OK first off my oil is made in JamaicaWeed in the mountains they use ethol alcohol the same stuff you drink(vodka,rum,bourbon) anyways the Jamaicans use 151% rum this is done in a none stop cycle they soak the weed in Rum after about a 100lbs is soaked they allow the barrels to sit in the sun and evaporate slow where no heat is added and IT does not damage the CBD or resins.
HASH OIL-
is an extraction of the resins from the BUD only and they are screened to remove colours odors and any impurities that the resin glands may have There liquid used to make the HAS oil has to be EIRHER,CHloroform,Hexane the reason these are used is they remove higher amounts of THC from the Resin glands and also converts the in active CBD to active which in returns increases the THC levels in the HASH oil also true hash oil has to have a sulfuric acid wash talso convert and remove colours from the finished product.
|CHERRY OIL
Cherry oil is an extraction of resins from marijuana with the Ether,Chloraform or hexane(Either is the equal amounts of Ethol alcohol/sulfuric acid (I think) the chemicals are poured on marijuana and soaked for 1 hr then the liquid is placed in a refractor for the first extraction and removal of the nausous ether and stored for the next 4 extractions that will produce the reddish colour resin cherry oil.EACH extraction has to be cooked to its finished consistancy and the for every gram of Resin OIL you have to add 1 drop of pure sulfuric acid and 1 gram of extraction liquid back to the finished product and reconstitute and then do a sodium bicarboniate wash to remove the sulfuric and colors this is done 5 times with the end result being a REDISH RESIN referred to as cherry oil (about 90% pure THC)
Honey Oil
Honey oil is made the same as Cherry oil but has 2 more cook and wash steps to remove all colour highest level of THC (97%)
Butane OIL
first off you are smoking POISON no chemical will ever evaporate fully so be careful.also this is one of the highest levels of THC (92%) people that make this oil do not WASH it as they would lose weight also this product can be made from CO2 alot safer for people but people don't want to take the time and energy to make it this way
HONEY BUDDER/BUDDER
this product is the same as BUTANE OIL except the cook has whipped air into the final product
this is about all I know from my years of cooking Oil there is always people looking to take short cuts to make money I think customers should be aware of what they are buying and know the differences in OILS
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Also at the end of the day it takes 16grams of weed to make 1 OZ of good highgrade oil.If people are chronic smokers Oil is the best bet for anyone as it will last 2-3 days per gram and is relevantly inexpensive
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Also isn't the thc content of the extracting contents really what matters... like 4 oz of trim or 1 oz of hash would produce the same oil? correct me if i'm wrong
There are multiple types of concentrates and they can produce a very similar type of hash or oil. None of these terms are in the dictionary and they are can mean different things regionally. I can attest to the terminology that the CA medical scene uses.
The easiest and quickest and lowest quality is what I call QWISO or quick ISO, or ISO wash. This involves placing plant material in a jar with 99% ISO shaking it, straining it through cheesefilter onto a pyrex dish and let the ISO evaporate. Usually this comes out black and nasty. Lots of plant/chlorophyll taste will come through. You should only shake it about 10 seconds and even that is kinda long. The less shaking the better quality and the more likely it will come out as being golden. If you sell this on here you should say it is iso-wash.
BHO stands for Butane Honey (or Hash) Oil. BHO is extracted with butane. Plant material is placed into a tube fairly compacted and butane is run through it. The liquid butane will drop out the bottom of the tube through a screen and into a pyrex dish. The liquid butane will boil at 32F and evaporate leaving a oil. Depending on quality, this oil could be a solid at room temperature. This is what I call oil. This is the popular stuff that and if you're a glass collector you know all about oil rigs and have all kinds of nicknames for this type of extraction. errl. dabs. You get the point. This doesn't have to be made with afghani hash or nepalese hash. It can be made from hash, don't get me wrong, but also plant material.
Personally there is where I consume my errl on a HMK curve or a ti nail/dome setup. IMO there is no better way to consume cannabis. If you're into the glass scene just about every artist is focusing solely on oil rigs that will take an HMK curve or a direct injection titanium nail/dome setup. The reason, this is the cats meow.
However you can take BHO a step further. Some don't like the consistency of the oil and they prefer a more buddery/earwax type of consistency. It is easy to change the consistency by heating the BHO and whipping it quickly. Some people call this budder but the word budder can refer to two different types of things. I did a quick google search for some pics.
Oil http://www.wherestheweed.at/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/BHO-Dab.png
vs
Whipped oil aka earwax aka budder http://www.weedmeds.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/tds_purpleurkelbudder.png
There is a guy that is known in the scene as BudderKing. He takes BHO and converts it to his own type of budder. This may be what OP is referring to. BudderKing has a process that is held closely to himself, he doesn't share it. Many people have tried to replicate his process by reverse engineering it. They will use ether or hexane and they will decarb or even try to isomerize it. But to do it like BudderKing safely you will need a lot of expensive chemistry equipment and have a degree in chemistry. Many have speculated his recipe is as follows:
Dissolve the hash oil in absolute ethanol or pure methanol in the ratio of one gram extract to ten grams solvent. There must be no water in this solution! (using fuming sulfuric acid next so trust SWIM on this one!)
Next add one drop of 100% sulfuric acid per gram of extract. Add the acid slowly, drop by drop, stirring slowly and completely, with a long glass stirring rod.
Place a Pyrex pot containing the extract-alcohol-acid solution into the refluxing apparatus and reflux for two hours. The acid will not evaporate and will remain in the Pyrex pot. Allow to cool.
Take the cooled solution, pour with an equal volume of water and 1/2 volume of petroleum ether into the ether-extraction apparatus (separation funnel).
Allow to settle, and drain the ether extract layer. This leaves an ether-extract-acid mix from which the acid must be purged.
To accomplish a purge, one pours the ether-extract-solution into four volumes of 5% sodium bicarbonate solution (1 gram bicarb. in 20 grams of water). This
will neutralize the acid, releasing CO2 and leaving a solution of sodium sulphate.
Allow this to settle into layers, then drain the ether-extract layer.
Mix the ether-extract solution with an equal volume of pure water and let it separate.
Drain off the ether-extract layer and evaporate it (the ether-extract layer), what remains is hash oil in which all of the cannabinoids have been converted into THC.
Nobody on SR is selling this except MAYBE budderman. I'm not sure what his product is exactly but he may be doing a process similar to this.
Holly to answer your question; yup. If you're on the forums posting pics of your extractions the pissing contest is the percentage of return. Trim will usually return less than 10%. Popcorn nugs between 10-15% and whole nugs can return 20% or more. So you'll see the topics of the threads "OG Kush BHO 23.5%" and you know the OP was proud.
Also at the end of the day it takes 16grams of weed to make 1 OZ of good highgrade oil.If people are chronic smokers Oil is the best bet for anyone as it will last 2-3 days per gram and is relevantly inexpensive
OP- how the hell do you take 16 grams of plant material and turn it into 28 grams of a concentrate? LOLwut.
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THC = THC or am I wrong?
THC = THC
Can't argue with that. :P
But there's a lot of other stuff (cannabinoids) that can be converted to types of THC. Usually this happens when you apply heat but you can do so chemically in an attempt to increase the active ingredients.
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THC = THC or am I wrong?
As little as I know this is NOT true.
Otherwise, why do different strains, give us different results?
There's more to the magic.
It seems to me hash varies greatly, let alone weed.
Ok back to reading what BIgBill is saying.......
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thats it if you use sulfuric acid it converts the cannabinoids to active which is the only way to increase the level of THC thats when it is CALLED HASH OILS OR HONEY OILS
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BillBig,
While I want to learn, and I love Calitrees having a slightly different opinion.
Back to the product you sell, it basically green nasty stuff with a high thc/cbd ratio.
No way sunlight doesn't break down thc. That's ok.
So I can smoke it, or eat it? Since they use ethyl not iso?
It's has to be decarb'ed already.
Can I freeze it, I hate handling oils?
Curious before the sale ends ;)
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The oil I have is so thick I ship OZ in saran wrap and a CD case you can smoke it this is made from ethyl alcohol ( JAMAICAN RUM )NOT ISO-alcohol that you buy at the case and drum for $19 a gallon I melt 2 grams of oil into butter and make cookies,brownies,cakes everything with it the shit is as thick as tar this is just weed OIL and it is dark Green /Black the same as most vendors are calling HASH OIL that is what I Don't like they are miss informing their clients
You can re hydrate it and spray it on shit weed and make it a wonderful smoke
I freeze it al l the time for storage I import LB"S of this stuff at a time and need to store it
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These are things we wanted to know.
So I could smoke it, but because we use an edible solvent, we can cook with it.
Interesting......
Sounds like a new toy for Uniwiz to play with ;)
If thc = thc, then
Uniwiz wants cheapest thc
Else
Uniwiz wants best thc
End If
I don't Calitrees but maybe we should separate what we "hash"
You know I love the variety.
Butane extracts, are powerful, but I swear I taste chemical the 1st couple of hits.
I still have my budder/oil in a vial. I hit once in a while.
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OK well I thought I would post this as I have a lot of Buers wanting to know if I sell Hash Oil and again I say Know and also I say everyone claiming there product is Hash Oil is Mistaken here is the process to make it which is dangerous to the end user
hash oil is made from unpressed resin.
Production(Self instruction): Use the smallest alcohol molecule, methanol, to perform a cold solvent extraction. The resin needs only to be soaked for an hour or two with a stir or three; wash the resin three times with at least a 4:1 ratio of methanol to resin, condensing the methanol driven off by heat from the filtered mixture each time.
Boil down to a 1:1 ratio and after the third wash set fire to it, immediately give this a final methanol wash, fire it again; the flames will subside on their own, if your resin was pure, and your filter papers were fine, and then it will bubble up to the top of your pressure cooker; it is now super-hot (close all the windows) will cool slowly but needs to be poured to easily separate the crust which can be recycled.
Big warnings: methanol will rot your brain and send you blind if you regularly inhale (luckily good hash oil contains none) and methanol fires are deceptively fierce, you need good practical chemistry lab habits. Incidentally, the washed residue looks exactly like hash still, but will not get you stoned at all (guess what happens to that!)
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This is the thread about hash oil.
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this is really good stuff. thanks for all this info!
i have 2 kinds of oil in my stash that I probably won't be smoking again after learning all this shit about the toxic chemicals that may be present in the dope. I got some real gooey black oil off a traveling hippie at a festival for real cheap, and now i think i know why it was so cheap.
real quick, just wondering when BigBill said you can melt 2 grams of oil into butter...how much butter would be suitable for 2g of your oil?
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Wow...this thread made my head spin. I will admit first, I have not read every post, but I will give my input.
Hash oil is referring to the finished product as a type of hash. Any "extract" of cannabis is hash. I have never in my life seen or heard anyone call it "weed oil". ISO-hash is simply that, ISO-hash not "weed oil". You could just as easily use hash (soapbar, or any other impure hash) with ISO to make a purer end product. The only problem with ISO, is it tends to pull cholorphyll (doesn't have to be...freezer chilled anhydrous ISO wash for a few seconds will make a cherry or honey coloured product) most people let the ISO and bud sit together too long, which makes a black/green sticky as hell goo.
I repeat, ANY PURIFIED EXTRACT OF CANNABIS FOR SMOKING IS HASH(solid or oil). The rest is just ego and semantics.
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WEED OIL
OK first off my oil is made in JamaicaWeed in the mountains they use ethol alcohol the same stuff you drink(vodka,rum,bourbon) anyways the Jamaicans use 151% rum this is done in a none stop cycle they soak the weed in Rum after about a 100lbs is soaked they allow the barrels to sit in the sun and evaporate slow where no heat is added and IT does not damage the CBD or resins.
HASH OIL-
is an extraction of the resins from the BUD only and they are screened to remove colours odors and any impurities that the resin glands may have There liquid used to make the HAS oil has to be EIRHER,CHloroform,Hexane the reason these are used is they remove higher amounts of THC from the Resin glands and also converts the in active CBD to active which in returns increases the THC levels in the HASH oil also true hash oil has to have a sulfuric acid wash talso convert and remove colours from the finished product.
|CHERRY OIL
Cherry oil is an extraction of resins from marijuana with the Ether,Chloraform or hexane(Either is the equal amounts of Ethol alcohol/sulfuric acid (I think) the chemicals are poured on marijuana and soaked for 1 hr then the liquid is placed in a refractor for the first extraction and removal of the nausous ether and stored for the next 4 extractions that will produce the reddish colour resin cherry oil.EACH extraction has to be cooked to its finished consistancy and the for every gram of Resin OIL you have to add 1 drop of pure sulfuric acid and 1 gram of extraction liquid back to the finished product and reconstitute and then do a sodium bicarboniate wash to remove the sulfuric and colors this is done 5 times with the end result being a REDISH RESIN referred to as cherry oil (about 90% pure THC)
Honey Oil
Honey oil is made the same as Cherry oil but has 2 more cook and wash steps to remove all colour highest level of THC (97%)
Butane OIL
first off you are smoking POISON no chemical will ever evaporate fully so be careful.also this is one of the highest levels of THC (92%) people that make this oil do not WASH it as they would lose weight also this product can be made from CO2 alot safer for people but people don't want to take the time and energy to make it this way
HONEY BUDDER/BUDDER
this product is the same as BUTANE OIL except the cook has whipped air into the final product
this is about all I know from my years of cooking Oil there is always people looking to take short cuts to make money I think customers should be aware of what they are buying and know the differences in OILS
I believe most of these numbers are incorrect. When it comes to extracted concentrates, the best of the best is this (which comes at 87% THC, 6% other cannabloids, and 2% terpenes): http://www.tetralabs.com/puregold.php
They buy oils from other vendors and use a proprietary method to remove all impurities from the oils, to achieve extremely high purity, and add 5% solvent (grapeseed oil iirc) for ease of handling. Look around their website, there is a lot of good technical details.
Any other form of oil or wax just has more impurities such as green plant material, and solvents such as butane.
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Alright Party People...
Genuine, original hash oil is the VERY viscous resin that comes out of mechanically/hydraulically pressed hash. What you apparently have, Bill, is what sounds like the crudest form of an EtOH wash possible...plus whatever coffee bean paste or whatever you're adding to turn 16g of plant into 28g of oil. BHO...is technically "Butane HONEY Oil"...it's still hash oil, it just lacks unneeded extras. It's just quicker, healthier and more potent than the genuine hash oil I mentioned first. And, it is more than sufficiently healthy when properly purged and ran with quality butane. No one is getting scammed here unless you buy from Rook, or from the sounds of it....you. Can't believe the stuff you have spewed here and then say that your stuff is made with fucking rum...this is unbelievable. Anyway, I started a thread a couple days ago about real oil and about who offers what. I welcome you to join in on the discussion over there and please post some pics of your stuff...not in a vial, not out of focus.
Thread:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=27831.0
~Errl
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OK here is what you have to deal with when you smoke Butane OIL please read the last paragraph good why should anyone expose themselves to possible carcinogens
Butane (containing 1,3-butadiene)
CAS Registry Number 106-97-8
What is it?
•Butane is an industrial chemical and is produced from refining crude oil and through the processing of natural gas.
•Butane also contains very small amounts of 1,3-butadiene, which is produced during the refining of butane. 1,3-Butadiene has previously been assessed by the Government of Canada and is considered to be harmful to human health.
How is it used?
•Butane is used as a solvent carrier, blowing/propellant agent, fuel or fuel additive and formulation component.
•Butane is also used in various applications including insulating polyurethane foam, aerosol sprays and coatings, paint dyes and automotive spray waxes.
•Based on the most recent data available, butane containing very low amounts of 1,3-butadiene is manufactured in Canada and imported into Canada.
Why did the Government of Canada assess it?
•Butane was identified as a potential concern to human health based on its classification by international organizations as a substance which was found to cause cancer when it contains 0.1% or more of 1,3-butadiene, and based on what was believed to be a high potential for exposure to Canadians.
why both with poison when real oil is made from ethanol alcohol
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bigbill, with all due respect, you're speaking nonsense
a few points:
1) butane is used as a FOOD GRADE PROPELLANT. that cooking spray you used this morning for your pancakes? yeah.
2) butane can quite readily be removed because it is GASEOUS at room temperature and pressure.
3) some butane may be impure, this does not mean ALL butane extract is anything resembling unhealthy
some of us use instrument purity n-butane (99.5% purity, mercaptan free), which is made with lab instrument calibration in mind - in other words this is clean stuff. some of us also purge our extracts under hard vacuum, with added heat, and for an extended period of time. some of us make our butane extracts using lab grade stainless steel systems that are devoid of even air. you speak as though you have any experience whatsoever making or consuming butane extract when your words are those of someone who has no idea what they are talking about.
sullying butane extracts in general when you seem to be unclear on the process itself or even the end product is shameful. there are people who don't know better and will believe what you say. ::)
to everyone else, please do your own research. what bigbill says about butane extract is roughly equivalent to people who say that wifi routers mess with your brain and make you sick.
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Butane all becomes corrosive on contact with Nickel also so
Stainless steel is made from iron ore, silicon, chromium, carbon, nickel, manganese and nitrogen
this is also errelavent as WIFI signals that mess with brain patterns also
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Butane all becomes corrosive on contact with Nickel also so
Stainless steel is made from iron ore, silicon, chromium, carbon, nickel, manganese and nitrogen
this is also errelavent as WIFI signals that mess with brain patterns also
You must have a massive router. But seriously, you're way off on the BHO. I was making EtOH washes out of stems (and weed too, the product is crap regradless) 20 years ago. The game has changed Bill. Accept it, get to know it and you can enjoy it. Or you can be difficult, uneducated, and whine that you aren't making money off of selling wooden wagon wheels at a drag racing convention.
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selling wooden wagon wheels at a drag racing convention.
lol, got a good chuckle out of that.
that said, i have a taste for tradition and the antiquated. weed oil made just with rum does sound appealing to me, even though it may not yield the psychedelic insanity of new oil techniques.
yo bill, i'll give your stuff a try once i get some more funds available
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spacewasp- To give you an idea about the potency of the difference processes:
BigBill rum extraction starts with 16 grams of buds and returns 28 grams of oil.
BHO would start with 16 grams of buds I would hope to get 3.2 grams of oil.
One of these is a concentrate, the other isn't.
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selling wooden wagon wheels at a drag racing convention.
lol, got a good chuckle out of that.
that said, i have a taste for tradition and the antiquated. weed oil made just with rum does sound appealing to me, even though it may not yield the psychedelic insanity of new oil techniques.
yo bill, i'll give your stuff a try once i get some more funds available
Wasp,
I agree that there is an appeal in smoking some quality EtOH oil, especially some made with some quality rum because of flavor. My thing here is health (not JUST potency of quality oil, although I do LOVE that aspect of it)...he is offering a crude product made in Jamaica , with what sounds like the moonshine equivalent of rum. And for like $15 a gram? So, that means weed is being grown, alcohol made and used with the weed to make oil, then packaged and shipped to wherever (maybe more than one wherevers) and then resold, repackaged and reshipped for $20 a gram with shipping...please tell me how there can be any quality control made there without exporting/importing hundreds of tons at a very high profit margin. But hey, to each their own...and please leave a review of what you get here and in the other BHO thread...pics are always appreciated. Peace.
~Errl
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spacewasp- To give you an idea about the potency of the difference processes:
BigBill rum extraction starts with 16 grams of buds and returns 28 grams of oil.
BHO would start with 16 grams of buds I would hope to get 3.2 grams of oil.
One of these is a concentrate, the other isn't.
QFT.
I mean, I know next to nothing about the process, but if you know simple arithmetic and the definition of concentrate, well.....
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So, that means weed is being grown, alcohol made and used with the weed to make oil, then packaged and shipped to wherever (maybe more than one wherevers) and then resold, repackaged and reshipped for $20 a gram with shipping...please tell me how there can be any quality control made there without exporting/importing hundreds of tons at a very high profit margin.
~Errl
I'm not sure what you're getting at here...are you just saying that its so cheap because there's people getting ripped off in the process, like growers and such? or are you saying that this jamaican oil will be shit compared to other jamaican oils because theres no profit margin? why do you think there could be no quality control unless moving tons? isn't it feasible that someone in bigbill's upline did just that? or that maybe he's got a connect in jamaica who mails him the stuff? i think in Jamaica, the money we're talking about here is big bucks. they grow big big fields of ganja all over the place and its probably nothing for guys to grab a bunch of sugarcane and distil their own rum for making oil. no?
also, why would it be unhealthy to consume oil made with moonshine? to a layperson like myself, that sounds harmless compared to butane. i mean, i could swallow a fluid ounce of moonshine and be reasonably okay...just kinda drunk.
just curious, as I really don't know a lot about this stuff.
figured that given how cheap this product is it would be something fun to have in my collection.
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well first off the oil is made from moonshine quality rum & second 16OZ"s OR 1LB makes 28g's of Jamaican Oil.We purchase 50 KG's at a time usually every 3 months so the process can be completed properly also there are no residues or "WOODEN WAGON WHEELS"used as some real experts think all I am saying why sell products that require people to use dangerous chemicals and possible life threatening injuries to there nervous system & Brain
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well first off the oil is made from moonshine quality rum & second 16OZ"s OR 1LB makes 28g's of Jamaican Oil.We purchase 50 KG's at a time usually every 3 months so the process can be completed properly also there are no residues or "WOODEN WAGON WHEELS"used as some real experts think all I am saying why sell products that require people to use dangerous chemicals and possible life threatening injuries to there nervous system & Brain
yes that is correct, real experts. with lab test data from our products, pharmaceutical and food grade extraction equipment, and most importantly of all, we actually know what we're talking about. do you even have anything to do with the production of your product or are you just another broker using fancy words to scare the uneducated into buying your product instead of something made properly?
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original poster and a few others in this thread are incorrect.. Hash oil is a generalized term.
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spacewasp- To give you an idea about the potency of the difference processes:
BigBill rum extraction starts with 16 grams of buds and returns 28 grams of oil.
BHO would start with 16 grams of buds I would hope to get 3.2 grams of oil.
One of these is a concentrate, the other isn't.
QFT.
I mean, I know next to nothing about the process, but if you know simple arithmetic and the definition of concentrate, well.....
The guy I know that makes BHO gets around a 10:1 ratio. He's no scientist or even really that smart, but I can tell you that the concentrate (which he calls honey oil I think) is fucking outstanding. I've smoked some of the original Budder years ago, and I can tell you no THC product will ever get me that high again. I've smoked Jamaican hash oil and it's a natural buzz, but it's like comparing seeing Pink Floyd in 1979 on acid vs. seeing Miley Cyrus in 2010 on wine coolers. No disrespect, and I'm planning on trying some of BigBill's product in the future, but it's no comparison.
original poster and a few others in this thread are incorrect.. Hash oil is a generalized term.
Yeah. This thread has become pedantic.
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why are you guys giving this guy a hard time :o hes offering a top notch product at a great price.
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first off bill id like to say i have no problem with what you are saying, but it is not true at all. If you want people to purchase your products i think it would be important for you to state facts when writing about your products and other vendors products rather than just talk about what you think is the truth.
Do you have any links, sites, or books that back up the information you are saying? I believe you dont, because the information you are giving us is not correct.
I think your product is a great idea and im not bashing it all. But to say that its better than BHO is VERY FAR FETCHED. BHO contains some of the high THC content in any marijuana related product and there is no arguing that. It is scientifically proven. Secondly, its not unsafe. Thousands of people use it because it has been proven, again by scientists and doctors, that the butane is evaporated and what is left is a pure thc product.
The different types of oils you were talking about i have never even heard about, other than hash oil and honey oil. Both of which is BHO. It is the same thing.
i would like to see your information backed up by facts before you tell people that other vendors are lying to us and you are the only one being honest. because this is not at all true and it is crazy of you to think that you are the only right one.
Good day and please read up on this information before you start spreading wrong information.
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Awesome pissing contest! And some learning besides!
NCK
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why are you guys giving this guy a hard time :o hes offering a top notch product at a great price.
Cus he's coming here saying BHO shouldn't be called 'hash oil' and saying his 'jamaican made weed/rum oil' is better, and is the only thing that should be called hash oil.
While I've never had his weed/rum oil, i've had Green Dragon (weed/alcohol extract) and it fucking sucked. I like alcohol, but not with my weed...
Anyone who doesn't think(know) that BHO is potent and awesome as fuck, is retarded.
Also, BHO isn't dangerous. Just because butane is used to extract it doesn't mean people leave butane in the oil, its evaporated out.
Most of the drugs on the Road are made with volatile chemicals at some point, doesn't mean they still remain in the substance.
I fucking hate this thread..