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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: SleepingMind on August 04, 2012, 04:49 am

Title: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: SleepingMind on August 04, 2012, 04:49 am
Adderall on SR are too damn pricey!!!

So, I am looking for a good alternative to it that is available on SR.

What would be it and who would be a good vendor for that?

Would appreciate any help.


Thanks,
SM

Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: Shroomeister on August 04, 2012, 05:05 am
LOL...still looking huh?
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: Hauau on August 04, 2012, 05:32 am
Methamphetamine in very low dosages may fit to your requirements. It's also cheap - like 40$ for 200 mg of crystals - and therapeutic dosage would be like 5-12 mg twice a day, depending on purity (good vendors sell 80-90% i believe). It's sold in 5 or 10mg pill form to help with ADHD - much like amphetamine (adderall), but dosage is lower. It also have less side effects - you won't feel wired and anxious, but you still would be motivated and full of energy, and even would feel some euphoria. But unless it's not sold in your area i wouldn't recommend it - ruining your life has never been so easy. I control my consumption by ordering low quantities, and if i would have access to crystal meth in my country i would be fucked up. It's an extremely dangerous substance and must be treated with extreme caution.
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: Ahoyhoy on August 04, 2012, 11:46 am
Adderall on SR are too damn pricey!!!

So, I am looking for a good alternative to it that is available on SR.

What would be it and who would be a good vendor for that?

Would appreciate any help.


Thanks,
SM


The obvious answer is Ritalin.
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: psychedelia on August 04, 2012, 07:53 pm
I'd go with Ritalin.
Not is it cheaper, but it seems to be not as bad for the brain as amphetamine/meth.
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: 751a696c24d97009 on August 04, 2012, 09:09 pm
Ritalin or some very low doses of very high quality methamphetamine. I'd choose methamphetamine personally, but I wouldn't recommend that to everyone.
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: H4L101 on August 04, 2012, 09:44 pm
Why not buy some speed..it's very motivating like adderall and is pretty cheap as well. I'd say it's your best bet.
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: 751a696c24d97009 on August 04, 2012, 09:47 pm
Yeah, a lot of vendors here sell speed in bulk pretty cheap. If stored correctly it could last you a while.
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: conflict on August 04, 2012, 11:13 pm
Dexedrine
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: SixtyFour on August 07, 2012, 05:58 am
Ritalin or some very low doses of very high quality methamphetamine. I'd choose methamphetamine personally, but I wouldn't recommend that to everyone.

I went this route looking for an Adderall alternative. I bought from a highly rated vendor and took low doses of meth, but I just did not like it. Side effects and comedown of meth were way worse than amp. I was taking 15-20mg oral doses of meth.

I don't have a large sample size since I've only tried meth from one vendor, but I'll probably stick w/ amph, even if I have to do it much less often because of the price.
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: ChokeNuke on August 07, 2012, 12:08 pm
Meth should do the trick. It's cheaper per mg. Mix into water, do your math so that you know how many mg/ml. I usually buy 0,5 g and mix it with 50 ml water. I then know that 1 ml is equal to 10 mg.

If afraid of neurotoxicity add in some vitamins and nutritional supplements. Most important to me is MAGNESIUM (GLYCINATE or CITRATE, never OXIDE)

Others are:

RESVERATROL
VITAMIN C
L-CYSTEINE
VITAMIN E
L-TYROSINE
L-CARNITINE
HIGH GRADE FISH OIL
COENZYME Q10
ALPHA LIPOIC ACID
VITAMIN D
DMAE

MELATONIN to sleep

But all this may be unnecessary because you can take 0.5mg/kg - that is 40 mg meth daily if 190 pounds of body weight - without fearing neurotoxicity with confidence 99,999 %. 20-30 mg should definitely put you in the safe zone.

But addies are good, I admit. I like the combo of 10-20 mg Adderall and 5-15 mg Meth. Addies crushed, water, mixed with meth-water. Then rectal administration and I'll have the most productive day! To safe some cash you could go down to 5-10 mg adderall and 20 mg Meth.
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: Lawnmower on August 07, 2012, 02:56 pm
The problem with using meth over adderall is that I feel it's too euphoric. Especially for studying! I don't understand why people would take an amphetamine to study when they are better used for a night going to bars/raves.

Ritalin in my opinion is the best alternative because it is reasonably cheap, non-toxic (as far as we can tell) and not particularly fun. I personally hate it for recreational use (some people seem to love it!) but it has helped me get a few papers done quickly.

Or possibly Modalert (Modafinil), which is again cheaper and even less fun. It didn't help me with concentration whatsoever and it had some pretty weird side effects. The week I tried taking it I couldn't smoke any weed because if I did I would get serious low blood pressure/blood sugar and pass out. Also was gurning as bad or worse than on any amphetamine. Other people say that it is good however, so it won't hurt to try.
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: lorenz on August 07, 2012, 04:01 pm
Yeah, a lot of vendors here sell speed in bulk pretty cheap. If stored correctly it could last you a while.
What's the right way of storing it?
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: Banjo on August 07, 2012, 06:50 pm
Do you live in the US and have health insurance? If so, just make an appointment with a psychiatrist. I was able to walk in and out on a first time visit with a ritalin prescription, which I said I didn't like. Then she gave me adderall. Now I have a lifetime supply of adderall legally and for very cheap. $40 for the initial visit, $40 for the followup, and $10 for each 30 day supply of pills.

Just don't go overboard with the ADHD symptoms at your appointment, and don't act like a drug seeker, and you should be good to go.
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: Banjo on August 07, 2012, 08:10 pm
Do you live in the US and have health insurance? If so, just make an appointment with a psychiatrist. I was able to walk in and out on a first time visit with a ritalin prescription, which I said I didn't like. Then she gave me adderall. Now I have a lifetime supply of adderall legally and for very cheap. $40 for the initial visit, $40 for the followup, and $10 for each 30 day supply of pills.

Just don't go overboard with the ADHD symptoms at your appointment, and don't act like a drug seeker, and you should be good to go.

Yeah, I tried that with my PCP and that did not go very well. Not sure if I can go to a psychiatrist directly. Someday I might try that as well.

I basically called asking for an appointment, and when I got there I said something along the lines of, "Lately, I've been having a very, very hard time keeping on task with things, and my wife has been pointing out that I forget to do things around the house she asks me about. They recently laid a lot of people off ay my work, and I don't want to be next, so I really need to figure out how to focus. I've always been one of those people that thinks ADD is kind of a load of crap, but maybe there's something to it."

I didn't outright ask for anything, and when she did present the option of a stimulant, I asked about all the side effects/alternatives and so forth. It helps that I actually do have a fairly mild case of ADD, but I think I could have got it even without that. I didn't go directly through my PCP as my insurance doesn't require it, and the PCP would probably just give out a referral anyway. Glorified vending machine, that doctor is
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: Regicide on August 07, 2012, 11:23 pm
Do you live in the US and have health insurance? If so, just make an appointment with a psychiatrist. I was able to walk in and out on a first time visit with a ritalin prescription, which I said I didn't like. Then she gave me adderall. Now I have a lifetime supply of adderall legally and for very cheap. $40 for the initial visit, $40 for the followup, and $10 for each 30 day supply of pills.

Just don't go overboard with the ADHD symptoms at your appointment, and don't act like a drug seeker, and you should be good to go.

Yeah, I tried that with my PCP and that did not go very well. Not sure if I can go to a psychiatrist directly. Someday I might try that as well.

I basically called asking for an appointment, and when I got there I said something along the lines of, "Lately, I've been having a very, very hard time keeping on task with things, and my wife has been pointing out that I forget to do things around the house she asks me about. They recently laid a lot of people off ay my work, and I don't want to be next, so I really need to figure out how to focus. I've always been one of those people that thinks ADD is kind of a load of crap, but maybe there's something to it."

I didn't outright ask for anything, and when she did present the option of a stimulant, I asked about all the side effects/alternatives and so forth. It helps that I actually do have a fairly mild case of ADD, but I think I could have got it even without that. I didn't go directly through my PCP as my insurance doesn't require it, and the PCP would probably just give out a referral anyway. Glorified vending machine, that doctor is


Banjo, I also got a script for adderall very easily following the very similar steps that you did. Be concerned about side effects, and leave the conversation open so the doctor can be the one making the decision for what's suitable for you. Unfortunately this easy access to adderall led to several day binges on each refill, so I decided to stick with buying lower doses occasionally instead.

I might, however try this method again with a different doctor to save me some money, and I could just sell the excess amount to friends at cost, so I don't have way too many each month.
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: 751a696c24d97009 on August 07, 2012, 11:27 pm
Do you live in the US and have health insurance? If so, just make an appointment with a psychiatrist. I was able to walk in and out on a first time visit with a ritalin prescription, which I said I didn't like. Then she gave me adderall. Now I have a lifetime supply of adderall legally and for very cheap. $40 for the initial visit, $40 for the followup, and $10 for each 30 day supply of pills.

Just don't go overboard with the ADHD symptoms at your appointment, and don't act like a drug seeker, and you should be good to go.

Damn, that's cheap! How many pills do you get per bottle? They go for over $10 each here, you could make a killing!
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: Regicide on August 07, 2012, 11:36 pm
Do you live in the US and have health insurance? If so, just make an appointment with a psychiatrist. I was able to walk in and out on a first time visit with a ritalin prescription, which I said I didn't like. Then she gave me adderall. Now I have a lifetime supply of adderall legally and for very cheap. $40 for the initial visit, $40 for the followup, and $10 for each 30 day supply of pills.

Just don't go overboard with the ADHD symptoms at your appointment, and don't act like a drug seeker, and you should be good to go.

Damn, that's cheap! How many pills do you get per bottle? They go for over $10 each here, you could make a killing!

I did the exact same thing here too, except strattera was first, and I went to my next appointment claiming they didn't help me and I got very bad headaches. I walked out with a script for a 60 day supply (30 x 15mg XR addies). Which was like $0.80/ea CAD with insurance. But unfortuanately as a stated earlier, I stopped getting refills because of my binges. I really should do this again and start selling addies here.
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: lovestotrip on August 08, 2012, 12:02 am
desoxyn hands down
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: 751a696c24d97009 on August 08, 2012, 12:04 am
Yeah, a lot of vendors here sell speed in bulk pretty cheap. If stored correctly it could last you a while.
What's the right way of storing it?

Nothing too crazy, keep it out of sunlight, head, and water, make sure it's in as airtight of a container as possible. It's pretty easy to store, I keep mine in sealed mason jars in a dark, climate controlled closet.
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: Banjo on August 08, 2012, 04:03 pm
Do you live in the US and have health insurance? If so, just make an appointment with a psychiatrist. I was able to walk in and out on a first time visit with a ritalin prescription, which I said I didn't like. Then she gave me adderall. Now I have a lifetime supply of adderall legally and for very cheap. $40 for the initial visit, $40 for the followup, and $10 for each 30 day supply of pills.

Just don't go overboard with the ADHD symptoms at your appointment, and don't act like a drug seeker, and you should be good to go.

Damn, that's cheap! How many pills do you get per bottle? They go for over $10 each here, you could make a killing!

I get 30 15mg IR pills at a time. It's $10 per bottle, so each pill is 33 cents. I'm well aware of the huge profits I could make by selling them here, but I don't want to be one of those vendors that's constantly out of stock, and since I'd only have 15 or so available a month, they'd sell out pretty damn fast.
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: 751a696c24d97009 on August 09, 2012, 11:01 pm
desoxyn hands down

Which is methamphetamine. People think because it's a pill that it's different, but it's not, so that can lead to addiction or binging if you aren't careful because it seems safer to less experienced drug users.
Title: Re: Adderall Alternatives?
Post by: ReallyNiceGuy on August 10, 2012, 03:20 am
Methamphetamine in very low dosages may fit to your requirements. It's also cheap - like 40$ for 200 mg of crystals - and therapeutic dosage would be like 5-12 mg twice a day, depending on purity (good vendors sell 80-90% i believe). It's sold in 5 or 10mg pill form to help with ADHD - much like amphetamine (adderall), but dosage is lower. It also have less side effects - you won't feel wired and anxious, but you still would be motivated and full of energy, and even would feel some euphoria. But unless it's not sold in your area i wouldn't recommend it - ruining your life has never been so easy. I control my consumption by ordering low quantities, and if i would have access to crystal meth in my country i would be fucked up. It's an extremely dangerous substance and must be treated with extreme caution.

You're correct, but Desoxyn is pure dextromethamphetamine, while street meth is usually racemic, meaning it has levomethamphetamine, which is shitty. To give you an idea of how sub-par it is, it's legally available. In Vicks Nasal Inhalers.

Of course methamphetamine is still a good option. Just stick to oral dosing.