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Title: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: joywind on June 28, 2013, 10:02 am
I don't have a pipe, and don't have any money to buy one.

But I do have some DMT.

Should I stick it up my butt, and post a trip report?

Good idea or bad idea?
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: BruceCampbell on June 28, 2013, 10:49 am
Trolololololo.

But the Neurosoup girl did a video on anal DMT.

Put the drugs in your butt.
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: wavelength on June 28, 2013, 02:43 pm
put a whole gram in that ass.
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 28, 2013, 02:50 pm
put a whole gram in that ass.

http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/WDLC.jpg
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: zipstyle on June 28, 2013, 11:52 pm
It would be great if you did, cuz then I could compare your experience to mine and see if you use different methods.
Hopefully you'll be able to break through!

Here is a report of my attempt...

I am back with my First Trial Report:

Earlier this week, I got a 250 mg sample from JeffBobb (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/b837eeb5d4) for his N,N DMT crystalline powder. The package arrived quickly, and the stealth was legit. If you are considering DMT vendors, I would highly recommend this one for the spice. I can say, after my First Trial, that this is very potent and also very close to pure (I have used DMT on several other occasions from a variety of sources).

I decided to start with basics, since there is such little information on the internet (darknet or clearnet) about rectal administration of DMT.

I put somewhere between 15-20 mg of DMT powder into a small bottle cap and added 1.5 ml of water.
DMT did not fully dissolve, but it did go into suspension so that I could draw it all up into a liquid syringe (used for infant medication admin.)
I put the syringe pretty far into my anus and delivered the DMT.
Then I laid down on my stomach for approximately 5 minutes. During those 5 minutes, I felt tingling spreading from my anus out to my lower body and also up towards my torso. You know, the kind of tingling usually accompanied by goosebumps. While this was happening, I was also experiencing a growing burning feeling in my anus. Also a very strong urge to defecate, even though I'd already emptied my bowels before starting the experiment. After 5 minutes, I couldn't wait anymore. The urge to poop and the burning had become basically unbearable.
After expelling whatever else my body was able to push out, I sighed, thinking the experiment was over and that I'd need to do another trial. But suddenly, I felt that familiar feeling in my teeth that I get when I do DMT (I don't know if other people get this or not). It's the sensation that my teeth are vibrating at a specific frequency or something, and then that feeling kind of spreads to the rest of my body. Either way, I realized the experiment was not over YET. :)
So I wiped my ass (which was feeling considerably better after) and laid back down on my bed.
The DMT comeup feeling continued to grow for about 2-3 minutes.
With my eyes closed, I noticed that the darkness behind my eyelids was growing steadily brighter (and my room was mostly dark). I could almost feel the DMT moving through my veins and into my brain like small waves on the beach as the tide is going up. That steady, rhythmic increasing. However, this feeling faded after about 4 minutes and I was left with a peaceful mindstate.
End Report
~.~.~

Thoughts: I think I need to increase the dose to somewhere between 30-50 mg and possibly use a different substance to dissolve the DMT in. I'm guessing butter was suggested because DMT dissolves easily in butter? Will have to research that property a bit more. I can say that rectal administration is most definitely a reasonable ROA, but the technique needs to be fine-tuned. I'm glad I tried this before snorting it, that's for sure. I really enjoyed the gradual comeup vs the usual shot-out-of-a-psychedelic-cannon feeling one gets from smoking the DMT. I think this will be my ROA of choice once I understand what I need in order to achieve a breakthrough dose. This ROA didn't lose any of the feelings of sanctity that smoked DMT affords. I felt like I was on my way to be in a very "holy" kind of state and that I would be in touch with Teachers soon.

As a (funny) side note: I think I may have at least successfully micro-dosed DMT! :P

Anyways, I think the biggest issue is getting the DMT to dissolve in the water and getting it all to stay in the ass...the burning and the feeling that you're about to shit yourself is pretty overwhelming and uncomfortable, tbh.

Lemme know if you figure out any tricks for overcoming these obstacles. My next trial will be done with a frozen pellet of butter that has ~50 mg DMT in it. Hopefully that will help the DMT absorb better, reduce burning, and make it a better experience overall.

Anyways, do it! For science, at least.
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: slirp on June 29, 2013, 02:42 am
zipstyle: I get the burning and strong urge to defecate when doing the same thing with MDMA/MDA.  I think next time I'm going to try doing just water first (maybe even a disposable enema) and getting everything cleared out first.  Last time I at least reduced the liquid down to less than 1mL but it still was uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: DxM on June 29, 2013, 10:49 am
its like a buttsex by drugs :P

place DMT, Meth and Ketamine

multi-rape 8)
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: valakki on July 04, 2013, 02:55 pm
no. i think thats not a good idea.

not with dmt . sorry. maybe you could pass it to someone whou actually wants to get spiritual illumination instead of some cheap high?
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: joywind on July 05, 2013, 09:17 pm
no. i think thats not a good idea.

not with dmt . sorry. maybe you could pass it to someone whou actually wants to get spiritual illumination instead of some cheap high?
I'm willing to give it a way to anyone who wants to send me some adderall.
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: saulgood on July 06, 2013, 06:45 pm
Krystle Cole (psycho wife of gordon todd skinner / neurosoup girl) tried it, see her video linked below:

CLARINET: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnmFIudvCZ0
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: Mcrad on July 07, 2013, 09:09 am
DO iT!


just to say you did.  8)
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: shizzlefitz on July 07, 2013, 08:22 pm
Krystle Cole (psycho wife of gordon todd skinner / neurosoup girl) tried it, see her video linked below:

CLARINET: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnmFIudvCZ0

Too bad she only talks about the trip and not the HOW and HOW MUCH
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: Ballzinator on July 07, 2013, 10:59 pm
I don't have a pipe, and don't have any money to buy one.
http://mycotopia.net/forums/attachments/botanicals-cactus-misc-entheogens-psychedelics/67822d1195320961-dmt-pipe-83484machine.jpg
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on July 07, 2013, 11:04 pm
I don't have a pipe, and don't have any money to buy one.
http://mycotopia.net/forums/attachments/botanicals-cactus-misc-entheogens-psychedelics/67822d1195320961-dmt-pipe-83484machine.jpg

You're assuming that he has a large diamond drill bit.
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: Ballzinator on July 07, 2013, 11:15 pm
I don't have a pipe, and don't have any money to buy one.
http://mycotopia.net/forums/attachments/botanicals-cactus-misc-entheogens-psychedelics/67822d1195320961-dmt-pipe-83484machine.jpg

You're assuming that he has a large diamond drill bit.
There's other ways of making holes into bottles. Also, a good quality set of drill bits should be in everyone's possession :D
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: slirp on July 08, 2013, 09:33 pm
I tried dissolving DMT in water and plugging the water last night.  Only 5-10mg.  I couldn't get it to fully dissolve there were a couple of small pieces left in the water.  Didn't get any noticeable effect.  Maybe just an insufficient dose.  Better safe than sorry though especially since I don't have any experience with DMT.
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: iisthisisi on July 09, 2013, 09:24 pm
DMT freebase won't dissolve in water that easy. The fumarate salt of DMT on the other hand, does dissolve very good. There are a few teks out there that describe the extraction of DMT straight to the salt.

IIRC, in order to use other administration routes for DMT, one needs a MAOi. DMT is being metabolized very fast and slow onset doesn't work. Smoking, IV or IM are the routes without a MAOi.

For oral, rectal and all other sorts of administration, a MAOi is required to prevent DMT being attacked by this enzyme. The MAOi will inhibit the function of the enzyme so it can't metabolize DMT.

When taking MAOĆ­, caution must be used. Read up on varies MAOi's and don't be stupid.

Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: slirp on July 10, 2013, 01:54 am
rectal administration avoids first-pass metabolism through the liver so I wouldn't think it would require an MAO-I.  In any case there is a lot of experience out there with vaping DMT and that seems to be the way to go so I'll focus on that.
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: BlackIris on July 10, 2013, 04:23 pm
I tried dissolving DMT in water and plugging the water last night.  Only 5-10mg.  I couldn't get it to fully dissolve there were a couple of small pieces left in the water.  Didn't get any noticeable effect.  Maybe just an insufficient dose.  Better safe than sorry though especially since I don't have any experience with DMT.

You have to use an acid to dissolve the freebase in water. You can use vinegar that transforms the DMT freebase into DMT acetate (salt) and it dissolves easily in water, for example. For plugging is fine, for injection there will be still plant materials in the possible extraction to take in consideration.

And no, for rectal administration you don't need a MAOI.

EDIT: Moreover for plugging you need an higher dose than with smoking, on par with a snorting dose, but the effects last (much) more than smoking. Even if you did dissolve the DMT correctly in water with only 10 mg you would have not even reached considerable threshold effects. I think the minimum you should try is about 20 mg.
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: rkk1993 on July 28, 2013, 10:17 pm
Try snorting it. About 100mgs should do it will hurt like crazy but you will have nore euphoria than mdma . Dont stop before you finish the 100 mgs try to do 3small lines.
Really painful but an amazing exoerience
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on July 28, 2013, 10:19 pm
Try snorting it. About 100mgs should do it will hurt like crazy but you will have nore euphoria than mdma . Dont stop before you finish the 100 mgs try to do 3small lines.
Really painful but an amazing exoerience

More euphoria than MDMA? :o  Where did you obtain this information? ???
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: Mcrad on July 28, 2013, 10:23 pm
Try snorting it. About 100mgs should do it will hurt like crazy but you will have nore euphoria than mdma . Dont stop before you finish the 100 mgs try to do 3small lines.
Really painful but an amazing exoerience

A buddy of mine groundscored some deem at an event last summer thinking it was K.

Him and another friend snorted it. prob about 70mg each. they started vomiting a lot. after the vomiting though they were pretty faced.

the next day they both said they didnt regret it one bit:)
Much love_mcrad!
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: shizzlefitz on July 29, 2013, 01:57 am
Try snorting it. About 100mgs should do it will hurt like crazy but you will have nore euphoria than mdma . Dont stop before you finish the 100 mgs try to do 3small lines.
Really painful but an amazing exoerience

I have to strongly disagree having done just this myself, except with about 150mg. I divided into two lines and ripped one into each nostril. It burned like motherfucker! And five minutes later when the pain went down to the bearable level still no CEVs. Only the feeling that I had done something really stupid and dangerous.

Just last night I tried shooting 20mg of 2CE up my ass with a plastic syringe that has a long curved "beak". It's the perfect tool for delivering up there past the asshole's nerves. Still, you really do get the urge to take an immediate crap and though I guess you can fight the urge it makes you so uncomfortable you're not going to be able to enjoy the ride anyway.
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: rkk1993 on July 29, 2013, 02:23 am
Try snorting it. About 100mgs should do it will hurt like crazy but you will have nore euphoria than mdma . Dont stop before you finish the 100 mgs try to do 3small lines.
Really painful but an amazing exoerience

More euphoria than MDMA? :o  Where did you obtain this information? ???

I've done it...
Different kind of euphoria.... but In my experiences its more euphoric and I love my mdma
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: rkk1993 on July 29, 2013, 02:31 am
Try snorting it. About 100mgs should do it will hurt like crazy but you will have nore euphoria than mdma . Dont stop before you finish the 100 mgs try to do 3small lines.
Really painful but an amazing exoerience

I have to strongly disagree having done just this myself, except with about 150mg. I divided into two lines and ripped one into each nostril. It burned like motherfucker! And five minutes later when the pain went down to the bearable level still no CEVs. Only the feeling that I had done something really stupid and dangerous.

Just last night I tried shooting 20mg of 2CE up my ass with a plastic syringe that has a long curved "beak". It's the perfect tool for delivering up there past the asshole's nerves. Still, you really do get the urge to take an immediate crap and though I guess you can fight the urge it makes you so uncomfortable you're not going to be able to enjoy the ride anyway.
I don't know much about dmt only done it a few times but me and my friend had otdrred some off here about 5 months ago. He told me that one form of dmt you can snort and the other is not bioavalible. I don't exacly know what he was talking about but mayby we had different types because I did it 3 times. Once at 75 which produced little visuals and two at about 100-120 I had cevs for about 20 mins and had complete euphoria for one hour. I only have 50 mgs ofthis dmt left and iI've been saving it to smoke on a special occasion. My friend also had the same experiences that work.
Title: Re: Should I stick DMT up my butt?
Post by: slirp on July 29, 2013, 08:36 pm
Try snorting it. About 100mgs should do it will hurt like crazy but you will have nore euphoria than mdma . Dont stop before you finish the 100 mgs try to do 3small lines.
Really painful but an amazing exoerience

I have to strongly disagree having done just this myself, except with about 150mg. I divided into two lines and ripped one into each nostril. It burned like motherfucker! And five minutes later when the pain went down to the bearable level still no CEVs. Only the feeling that I had done something really stupid and dangerous.

Just last night I tried shooting 20mg of 2CE up my ass with a plastic syringe that has a long curved "beak". It's the perfect tool for delivering up there past the asshole's nerves. Still, you really do get the urge to take an immediate crap and though I guess you can fight the urge it makes you so uncomfortable you're not going to be able to enjoy the ride anyway.

I'm not a fan of the urgency to crap feeling either so on Friday I took the time to make injectable solutions of MDMA, MDA and 2C-E.  I injected all 3 by intramuscular injection.  It worked quite well, but next time I'm going to increase the 2C-E dose to maybe 30mg.  That was my first time using 2C-E so I played it safe this time.