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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Pastcaring on November 22, 2012, 06:04 am
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Tunbear I have some important info for you.
In your listings for MXE you state:
"I won't tolerate reviews saying this is not as strong as pre-ban stuff etc. IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME STUFF. Potency might have dipped a tiny fraction because of age, but it has NOT been mixed. Also, there is NO WAY you can remember potency with such great detail from such a long time ago!"
Well I ordered a gram from you a few weeks ago and it arrived speedily and packaging was good but I can absolutely guarantee, 100% that your MXE is NOT the same quality as preban. In fact its nowhere near it.
You are right, people tend not to remember slight potency differences over time and for some, tolerance becomes an issue etc.
Well sorry to disappoint you but I actually still have some pre ban MXE and on 3 seperate occasions have tested your product against 3 other batches I have here at home.
(Note: MXE for me is about, and always has been about the hole. Thats what MXE is for. For me anyway)
THE BATCHES.
I have 4 batches of MXE currently.
Batch 1 - Genuine Pre-Ban MXE sourced from a very well known UK RC vendor in January this year.
Batch 2 - Bought from SR from a well known ex vendor in May this year.
Batch 3 - Bought from another SR vendor in September this year.
Batch 4 - Recently bought from yourself
THE METHOD
As stated, for me MXE is about the hole. I always reach the hole by the following method.
1. Bomb 70mg
2. After 1 hour snort 20mg, wait 20 mins
3. Repeat step 2 until hole is reached.
THE TEST
I must admit that the only reason I performed this test is because when I first tried your batch I stopped taking your MXE when I had reached a dose of 200mg without finding a hole. For that reason and to make this a fair test I have waited one month and performed my test in order of perceived potency. Note there was a 3 day gap between DAY1, DAY2 etc.
DAY1 - Batch 4 Total dose before hole was reached = 230mg Notes: At first it seems the MXE will do the job, the comeup from the 1st 70mg was quite rapid but further dosing did little. Did eventually find the hole but effects wore off relatively quickly. Virtually no analgesia, reasonable euphoria.
DAY2 - Batch 2. Total dose before hole = 150mg. Much more analgesia and euphoria with this batch effects lasted a short while longer than batch 4.
DAY3 - Batch 1. Total dose before hole = 130mg. This is the Pre-ban. Lots of analgesia and the classic tight upper lip that I always get with good MXE. Duration about that of batch 2.
DAY4 - Batch 3. Total dose before hole 110mg. I am suspicious of this batch, total analgesia and a duration 3 hours longer than any other MXE I have ever tried. Little euphoria. I suspect it has been cut with Tiletamine.
CONCLUSION.
Dude, you do NOT have Pre-ban MXE. Or if you do then it has been quite badly watered down, possibly before you even got it. The reason you havent been rated badly for it that often is your rather threatening mention of what happens to people who dont leave you 5/5. In fact if you read through all your feedback you will find lots who have questioned the potency but still leave 5/5. Lots of others fail to mention its potency in their feedback.
If you truly believe you have Pre-ban quality MXE then I am afraid I have to inform you that you have been ripped off.
I hope you find this post useful.
Regards
Pastcaring.
EDIT: Just to say I am not a vendor on here and have no affiliation with a vendor either. In actual fact I dont think there is a decent MXE vendor on the road currently..
BUYERS: Be honest in your feedback, make the road better for all.
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I have a g of Tunbear's MXE as well. All of his threats kept me from posting this, so I made a seperate account. His MXE isn't nearly as potent as the pre-ban stuff. 40 mg would normally have me feeling numb all over. 40mg of his doesn't do anything for me.
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Im the same, threats are not good Tunbear!
The quality of the MXE is pretty shocking IMO
@pastcaring: I cant give karma on this account but please consider yourself +1 :)
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You do realize I couldn't give less of a toss what a few people say when I have hundreds of satisfied customers, not to mention my own knowledge of the product ?
This IS pre-ban MXE, it was sold to me by an importer who could no longer sell it because of the law change, he is a vendor of legal RCs. It hasn't been mixed or touched in any way. I find the odd person who doesn't get as high as others, the only thing I can put this down to is chemical degradation from maybe the top layer of it.
Those people that have complained in a proper way saying it didn't really tickle their pickle, via PM, usually get an apology and refunded. However people calling it mixed and shit stuff in public and telling me to "up my game" can go take a run and jump off the nearest building.
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Gunna throw in my 2 cents...
Had a friend order some from Tunebear a month or two ago, wasn't too pleased. It was good MXE, but not the same quality we're used to. It didn't look like the crystal MXE we've had and it wasn't nearly as potent. As others have said, half of what you'd have to take with Tunebear's MXE would get you just as fucked up with high quality stuff.
I don't doubt that Tunebear's MXE is good, but the way it's being advertised hypes it up too much for what it actually is.
Pastcaring, do you know who has the best MXE on SR atm? I've been meaning to try awakened350 for a while now.
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I've ordered from Tunbear twice, and I've been more than pleased with both orders. Shipping was prompt, and quality was superb.
There seems to be this whole thing about 'pre-ban' RCs. Mephedrone was first, now it's MXE.
To me it seems like most people are just hyping up what they thought 'pre-ban' MXE used to be in their head. It's never attainable anymore; it's like some RC holy grail.
This isn't a shot at Tunbear for touting his MXE under that moniker, I'm just questioning the real use of it.
For the record, MXE isn't banned in the USA yet. Does that mean Awakened350 is selling pre-ban? I don't really care, honestly.
I've had the chance to compare Tunbear's and Awakened350's side by side and they're pretty much of the same quality; which is probably the best quality you're going to find anywhere. It's been a while since I had Reich's or ChillyP's MXE, but to my memory those batches weren't notably stronger.
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So awakened350's MXE is pretty much the same as Tunebear? Damn, that's disappointing...
No one is this thread is imagining some kind of HQ MXE that's rare to come by. I remember it myself, it was the dankest of the dank. Some vendors had it, some didn't. It wasn't like only a few had the good shit.
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I've ordered from Tunbear twice, and I've been more than pleased with both orders. Shipping was prompt, and quality was superb.
There seems to be this whole thing about 'pre-ban' RCs. Mephedrone was first, now it's MXE.
To me it seems like most people are just hyping up what they thought 'pre-ban' MXE used to be in their head. It's never attainable anymore; it's like some RC holy grail.
This isn't a shot at Tunbear for touting his MXE under that moniker, I'm just questioning the real use of it.
For the record, MXE isn't banned in the USA yet. Does that mean Awakened350 is selling pre-ban? I don't really care, honestly.
I've had the chance to compare Tunbear's and Awakened350's side by side and they're pretty much of the same quality; which is probably the best quality you're going to find anywhere. It's been a while since I had Reich's or ChillyP's MXE, but to my memory those batches weren't notably stronger.
naw if you followed awakened 350 over the past weeks you will see that he re upped right before christmas holiday. so he has whatever the chinese labs are putting out post mid december. I doubt that they give two shits whether its banned in the UK or USA, so I bet its the same quality. anyway his last batch was on the level with reich and chillyp (whom i know irl). good shit. we will see about tunbear. I am waiting on a small bag from him but it is taking forever... f christmas.
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One has to be very careful with MXE tolerance, that could easily affect your experience.
I have been doing MXE for quite a while, and I notice that the dose needs to be increased for better effects lately.
I'm also very careful not to overdose though, mainly when I receive a batch from a new vendor.
I have it under control still, doing bumps no more than 50mg every time.
But I certainly cannot reach those M-holes I would easily reach when doing MXE long time ago.