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Title: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: Dankbank1 on January 19, 2013, 06:22 pm
I tried looking her up she's in sleath mode, with all of her listings down. Are we all fucked, or am I just paranoid? I dont see her thread on here? Maybe I'm just really high.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: masteroffrets on January 19, 2013, 07:48 pm
When i go to the url of her thread i get the messgae "The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you." Is there a way to like hide a thread for a temporary amount of time? maybe she just didnt want the hype to keep building. I would think if she was scamming people she would keep her listings up and get as many people to finilaze as possible. Things still seemed like they hadnt gone south yet... The stealth mode doesnt bother me the thread being down is a little weird tho.
I got a message from her 8 hours ago with my tracking for 25g's. Tracking says "Your item, posted on 18/01/13 with reference xxx has been passed to the overseas postal service for delivery in UNITED STATES OF AMERICA."
If she was planning on going AWOL a few hours later never to be heard from again idk why she would bother sending tracking
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: catfishinmysocks on January 19, 2013, 08:17 pm
I placed an order yesterday and it has just been cancelled by them.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: masteroffrets on January 19, 2013, 08:35 pm
sounds like good news catfish. Im sure if they were scamming why would she cancel? To be honest I kinda thought i was gonna get scammed but i took the risk anyway. So im really not worried about what happens.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: theman22 on January 19, 2013, 09:45 pm
aww man hope shes just taking a precautionary break everyone seems to be making orders with her now..hopefully its just paranoia kicking in on our end
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: Dankbank1 on January 19, 2013, 10:40 pm
I guess well see, i think you lot are right. Why would she send shit? Maybe it is just a break for her to lay low, something maybe happened IRL. Hopefully the packs roll in this week coming up, seem like theyre all in the same place, as mine is too. Cool beans
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: Crack Fox on January 20, 2013, 12:37 am
THIS IS SHADY



 received tracking for one pack and now she disappears?! and it has not updated

anyone have luck with their shipments actually showing that they're in transit to USA and not just "preparing to be dispatched"?
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: trolley on January 20, 2013, 12:53 am
My tracking hasn't updated in a week since I received it last monday. On the royal mail site it says there are two types of tracking one only updates inside the UK and wont update once it has left the UK... Though not sure the point of that if it is to confirm delivery?
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: Crack Fox on January 20, 2013, 01:00 am
I always get an update at least when it arrives in the US and then more updates as it comes closer.
but usually a week is more than enough for it to show an update... im hoping for the best., but this looks like another scammer. weve been scammed by domestic vendors, SKYY and UkMandyMan. this is all too familiar as we have been sent tracking before that never updated. it shows that its preparing to be shipped but never updated.

good luck to all of you, if anyone has any updates please let us know!
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: onefishtwofishredfishblue on January 20, 2013, 02:09 am
was going to order yesterday.  decided to wait today.  thought it was odd that the forums didnt show there were any updates for the seller and as others said the store is in stealth.  idk if i dodged a bullet or will untimely have to wait longer. 
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: masteroffrets on January 20, 2013, 06:01 am
already said this but since u guys are to lazy to read ill post it again. tracking says passed over to overseas postal service for delivery in USA. updated 1/18. tracking doesnt mean shit tho.
I google fox's username and go to open the url and his account has been deleted.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: nanpa2001 on January 20, 2013, 06:35 am
already said this but since u guys are to lazy to read ill post it again. tracking says passed over to overseas postal service for delivery in USA. updated 1/18. tracking doesnt mean shit tho.
I google fox's username and go to open the url and his account has been deleted.

Foxbelle77 is still there. That vendor is in stealth mode. There are no current listings.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: theman22 on January 20, 2013, 12:08 pm
dot get yourselves worked up just yet,everyone who has ordered with belle has received so far.just because shes in stealth mode does not flat out mean scam as iv said the road buyers are all far too paranoid...as said above something could have happened IRL or maybe shes taking the weekend off??i know i would if i was a vendor.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: tango on January 20, 2013, 12:09 pm
hope everything is ok

i guess something must of happened irl
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: gtgeorgz on January 20, 2013, 12:18 pm
This is quite fishy to me. I know she asked everyone to FE as well.
She sent me a 5 pill sample on Monday (first class), which shouldn't have taken more than 3 days to get to me. Its now been 5 days, and no show but to be fair to her there has been snow this week and that completely fucked with RM service in the UK.
Hoping its just a precautionary shut down as she does seem like a very genuine seller and sells a very decent quality product.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: flames on January 20, 2013, 12:37 pm
The thing that is odd to me is that her forum thread appears to have been removed.  Can understand a vendor wanting to go into stealth to get some peace! But why remove the thread?
Anyway, i guess it is all speculation until she comes back and says something or all the orders fall through. FWIW i have ordered from her before she started the whole FE business. It turned up super quick and the quality looks, tastes, smells very good (haven't gotten round to trying it yet).
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: trolley on January 20, 2013, 01:18 pm
Just checked her user page and it's been downgraded from a vendor to normal account, this isn't looking to good :-[
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: gtgeorgz on January 20, 2013, 01:40 pm
Just checked her user page and it's been downgraded from a vendor to normal account, this isn't looking to good :-[

Anyone tried messaging her?
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: MaidMandy on January 20, 2013, 01:42 pm
That sucks to see this happening. My initial thoughts when I saw her page were that it was the same people that were behind vendor UK Mandy Man. I just hope i'm wrong and that everyone gets their orders :)
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: Dankbank1 on January 20, 2013, 01:46 pm
Yeah i tried messaging her no response. I have a feeling were all fucked and all have the same tracking numbers =\
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: nanpa2001 on January 20, 2013, 02:00 pm
Just checked her user page and it's been downgraded from a vendor to normal account, this isn't looking to good :-[

That is the death-knell right there. The really funny thing is that I had decided to buy 100g from her and sent her a message asking for advice on how to proceed. Dodged that bullet somehow.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: theman22 on January 20, 2013, 02:03 pm
Yeah i tried messaging her no response. I have a feeling were all fucked and all have the same tracking numbers =\

if your feeling becomes true i think there's a valuable lesson to be learned here,no matter how good it seems never FE....tho personally i would wait till tomorrow before starting to freak out.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: maniacsxc on January 20, 2013, 02:06 pm
Yeh well her page is gone, i messaged her this afternoon still nothing. She normally replies within 24hours. She has had over 200 FEs since thursday.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: Dankbank1 on January 20, 2013, 02:07 pm
I wont freak out cuz im high as shit, but yea RIP Foxbelle77. NEVER FE, im sure whoever did learned this the hard way but w.e man I took the risk i knew there was a huge one, but o well
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: drdroopy on January 20, 2013, 03:40 pm
i placed my order about 12 days ago, received tracking and was marked on 1/11/13 as "has been passed to the overseas postal service for delivery in UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" so im still half expecting delivery so crossing my fingers, last time i ever FE, cant ever trust a vendor no matter how good there stats are......
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: lucyintheskywd on January 20, 2013, 06:26 pm
I was about to order a large amount, just waiting on coins.

Hoping this isn't a scam but it seems like it is. She even sent me a 1g sample when she joined and I got 2.3g of really nice crystal.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: nowayjose on January 20, 2013, 08:46 pm
Fuck, I wanted to post in here for a while but this new 50 post requirement threw me off. Anyway, as I had been posting in the other thread, I ordered 10g to the U.S. The tracking number she gave me says that the package made it through customs and has left the first sort facility in the U.S. This whole mess is definitely unfortunate but it isn't certain it was a scam yet.
It strikes me as odd that she wouldn't continue to milk it. I mean, there wasn't a single no show as far as I remember. Everyone seemed to be a happy customer. You would think she would at least wait until the negative reviews were coming in to stop.
It's also weird all the hassle she's gone through to remove any trace of having sold. Why would it even matter to a scammer if people continue to post in your thread?
I'm still hopeful I'll get my MDMA, but I have plenty of doubt too. I'll let you all know if I receive it or if the package was even sent to me (and not just one tracking number sent to all U.S. customers). I will say that I don't plan on FE'ing again unless the vendor is well-established (like many months). Only bought from her in a moment of weakness.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: Dankbank1 on January 20, 2013, 09:09 pm
I've talked with another member here, and he has the same tracking number as me. I'm afraid we're fucked.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: jesusofrave on January 20, 2013, 09:34 pm
Hey there...

Can I ask what reason 'she' gave for needing people to FE?

jor
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: nowayjose on January 20, 2013, 09:39 pm
I've talked with another member here, and he has the same tracking number as me. I'm afraid we're fucked.

 :-\ Oh well. Lesson learned. Hopefully at least one person will get their purchase. The points I mentioned before still seem odd to me, even if 'she' is a scammer.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: MaidMandy on January 20, 2013, 09:39 pm
Hey there...

Can I ask what reason 'she' gave for needing people to FE?

jor

Pretty sure her account said something along the lines of... 'We require FE due to people scamming us. Blame the scammers'. Think i'm right in saying that anyway :)
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: gtgeorgz on January 20, 2013, 09:42 pm
Hey there...

Can I ask what reason 'she' gave for needing people to FE?

jor

She said to stop herself from being scammed, 'it was the only way' apparently.
I myself never FE'd for her, I just wanted to review her new pills for her but they still haven't arrived domestic UK yet (5 days).

If people are saying they've got the same tracking number then this pretty much is another scam. Shame, she seemed like a genuine seller. She may have deleted all evidence of previous transactions due to guilt but knows.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: ralph123 on January 20, 2013, 10:01 pm
Hey JOR I been following this since day one wishing I could get in on some of that MDMA. When I noticed that Fox had started shipping to the world I immediately went to That vendors page and saw the new policy about FE for EVERYONE even for UK buyers. I been here a while and Got to the point where I would FE for vendors after I had bought from them successfully at least once, if they had a good history with other buyers FEing, and if we had good conversations and built a so called good relationship. I know it's against SR policy but I really feel for the vendors having their money tied up and all.  I thought of it as a sign of good will not to mention I'd hope it would help get mine sent since they were already paid with the postage and all.

It doesn't really give a good reason on his page tho. I've never spent more than 140 usd on one single order yet but that's about to change. That should not matter anyway. After my last FE with a UK vendor I am certainly afraid to FE at this time. I was not ask to FE but the vendor is definitely regarded as being trust worthy and like I said before I wanted him to have the money so that my order would not be held up due to shipping.

With that being said not all so called credible UK vendors have the same personal policy and dignity as you and Tyl3r Durden. There are a few more I like as well. I don't have a clue what the deal is. Maybe If I were in those shoes It would be hard not to put off sending a small order when You have 5 or 10 orders of 10 grams or more come in after a FE order of a gram. Maybe I am wrong about all that but there are other vendors that don't require FE so I plan to be patient from now on and just go with out rather than FE.

My last experience with FE prevented me from ordering from Foxbelle77 and possibly losing out on some bit coin. Thanks to the vendor whose product never showed after a second reship. At least something good came out of it
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: trolley on January 20, 2013, 10:46 pm
Well messaged foxybelle 12 hours ago no reply seems pretty clear this is a scam now along with the same tracking no to different users. Lukily it was a smallish order for 3.5g hopefully learnt my lesson now 3  out of 4 no shows from 18 orders have been FE. Pity where I live many o/s vendors require it 
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: tango on January 20, 2013, 10:58 pm
shes obviously not going to reply because her account has been deactivated for whatever reason.

strange that some people got the same tracking number though..

hopefully she returns :(
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: trolley on January 20, 2013, 11:41 pm
Her accounts been downgraded from vendor to user last I checked, she could still reply to messages on SR if she wished (though unlikely she/he will).
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: Martian313 on January 20, 2013, 11:56 pm
tried to message her, no response... either we all just got scammed or LE got close and she jumped ship on all levels.  It seems she was doin too well to just give up and close up shop like she did.  I think we'll all know for sure in a few weeks.... where's dutch when you need him?
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: jesusofrave on January 21, 2013, 12:18 am
Hey JOR I been following this since day one wishing I could get in on some of that MDMA. When I noticed that Fox had started shipping to the world I immediately went to That vendors page and saw the new policy about FE for EVERYONE even for UK buyers. I been here a while and Got to the point where I would FE for vendors after I had bought from them successfully at least once, if they had a good history with other buyers FEing, and if we had good conversations and built a so called good relationship. I know it's against SR policy but I really feel for the vendors having their money tied up and all.  I thought of it as a sign of good will not to mention I'd hope it would help get mine sent since they were already paid with the postage and all.

It doesn't really give a good reason on his page tho. I've never spent more than 140 usd on one single order yet but that's about to change. That should not matter anyway. After my last FE with a UK vendor I am certainly afraid to FE at this time. I was not ask to FE but the vendor is definitely regarded as being trust worthy and like I said before I wanted him to have the money so that my order would not be held up due to shipping.

With that being said not all so called credible UK vendors have the same personal policy and dignity as you and Tyl3r Durden. There are a few more I like as well. I don't have a clue what the deal is. Maybe If I were in those shoes It would be hard not to put off sending a small order when You have 5 or 10 orders of 10 grams or more come in after a FE order of a gram. Maybe I am wrong about all that but there are other vendors that don't require FE so I plan to be patient from now on and just go with out rather than FE.

My last experience with FE prevented me from ordering from Foxbelle77 and possibly losing out on some bit coin. Thanks to the vendor whose product never showed after a second reship. At least something good came out of it

Hey there.

Thanks for that!

Yeah this is a pretty common technique I guess. Don't blame us! We're the ones who are hard done by, now a small group have meant we need to do this for everyone....

Hmmm.

Sorry to all those affected.

jot
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: ralph123 on January 21, 2013, 01:37 am
Oh no I would not blame you. I have the utmost respect for your kind of vendor-ship. Your one of the highest on the totem pole. I haven't ordered from you but I got that generous sample that gave me some good times. After a little time I have come to notice certain behavioral traits and tendencies from both buyers and sellers. There are times when it's best to get in on a vendor during their infancy and there there are some that blossom into a prime. There are a few vendors that come into the game  spectacular and never blemish. Sometimes it's obvious when a vendor is getting ready to cut and run. I spent a little time in the cocaine thread and it looked as if the same people were cutting lose every month and starting new accounts.

Buyers are the same way. There's a few con men among us and why wouldn't there be? They are just ordinary everyday scavengers who found a stream of currency and are trying to get in front of it. The same is true in every walk of life I guess. I'm about to settle in on my choice of medicine which was, is, and always will be high quality marijuana. The tolerance issues with the other stuff is so annoying.

Here's a disclaimer tho: None of this is meant to be of a bad nature toward any vendors or buyers. I am not pointing fingers or trying to call anyone out or call anyone names. As far as I am concerned the vendor in question has not been proven a scammer YET. I hope everyone gets their orders. Good thoughts and much love JOR
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: DeadRa7 on January 21, 2013, 04:05 am
Good thing I waited, because I've been ripped off by FE before and was VERY hesitant to do so from her until I saw some results...guess back to searching for random vendors-Just wish Dutch was around...
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: nowayjose on January 21, 2013, 05:11 am
To be honest, I always thought Foxbelle77 was highly suspect. I thought and still think it probably wasn't a girl - just a facade to try to play on stereotypes of women being kinder. I knew I was taking a huge risk ordering from her. In fact, my hope was that since I was one of the first international buyers (and the first American buyer who posted in the thread about having bought) I would be able to get in before she enacted the scam. Mind you, I was going to post after I got the product that I probably wouldn't FE unless you felt like taking a risk. The anxiety that comes with it simply isn't worth it and I didn't want to encourage other SR users to get scammed. But I did want to get some cheap MDMA. I still have some hope that I actually did get sent a legitimate package due to the active presence I took in the thread and perhaps a fear (from 'her') that the package would arrive sooner than anticipated, but I'm trying not to actually expect it (it's impossible to not hold out a bit of hope until it arrives...or goes somewhere else completely). Whatever package I got the tracking number for will probably be delivered this week.
If it doesn't come to me, and/or it's not MDMA, I think I'm going to order 28g from luckylucianno so I don't have to worry about strict customs (Canada to US is cake), long delivery time, or FE. I really don't want that much. I'm not a dealer. But if I can find enough friends that want in (for say $60 a gram - a good price here) I can get back what I spent on both of them by selling 20 grams, and have 8 left over for me, my gf and close friends...which is really just what I wanted to begin with.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: harharhar on January 21, 2013, 05:20 am
i cant help but feel this happens for *most* vendors, atleast in the MDMA space.  they probably get some weight, ship it out for a few months, get like 100+ people to FE, take the money and run.  setup a new seller account with some more weight, rinse and repeat. 

i still cant believe how many people will do business with vendors who require FE, when there are plenty that don't. 

also, this pattern has been going on for months, that ive been following.  i try and point it out now on the forums when i see something suspect (look at OldAmsterdam, same story, except he is making way more bank i think...).  there really is no long term credibility with sellers on the road.  its almost better to grab some people who are fairly new, dont require fe, and have good product reviews. 
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: masteroffrets on January 21, 2013, 05:21 am
God damn i wonder how much she couldve gotten away with if she kept it going. 50k easily i would say.. God damn that shit is to easy all you really need is like half a key to get it going then everyone falls in hook line and sinker! easy money.
Really not to disapointed. Im a drug dealer lol the 400 lost is made back in a couple days. Its my first time getting burned on here. If i were getting the same products and quantities for my sales irl i def wouldve gotten burned ATLEAST this 400 by now.
No risk no reward i think we all atleast half expected to get nothing for our money.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: nowayjose on January 21, 2013, 08:25 am
God damn i wonder how much she couldve gotten away with if she kept it going. 50k easily i would say.. God damn that shit is to easy all you really need is like half a key to get it going then everyone falls in hook line and sinker! easy money.

This is what's so weird to me...why not just fucking go until the bad reviews start coming in? It doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: jesusofrave on January 21, 2013, 10:21 am
Oh no I would not blame you. I have the utmost respect for your kind of vendor-ship. Your one of the highest on the totem pole. I haven't ordered from you but I got that generous sample that gave me some good times. After a little time I have come to notice certain behavioral traits and tendencies from both buyers and sellers. There are times when it's best to get in on a vendor during their infancy and there there are some that blossom into a prime. There are a few vendors that come into the game  spectacular and never blemish. Sometimes it's obvious when a vendor is getting ready to cut and run. I spent a little time in the cocaine thread and it looked as if the same people were cutting lose every month and starting new accounts.

Buyers are the same way. There's a few con men among us and why wouldn't there be? They are just ordinary everyday scavengers who found a stream of currency and are trying to get in front of it. The same is true in every walk of life I guess. I'm about to settle in on my choice of medicine which was, is, and always will be high quality marijuana. The tolerance issues with the other stuff is so annoying.

Here's a disclaimer tho: None of this is meant to be of a bad nature toward any vendors or buyers. I am not pointing fingers or trying to call anyone out or call anyone names. As far as I am concerned the vendor in question has not been proven a scammer YET. I hope everyone gets their orders. Good thoughts and much love JOR


Aahahah whooops sorry Ralph - I wasn't being clear.

When I said this "Don't blame us! We're the ones who are hard done by, now a small group have meant we need to do this for everyone...."

I was trying to imitate a scammer using this technique...  Does that make sense?

First destabalise peoples confidence in eachothere - people have been threatening to scam us (tony did the same thing as I undertsand it? someone said they are going to scam us)

The next step is to make an unreasonable request seem reasonable.  "We're the ones who are being scammed, so to to protect ourselves all you need to do is FE)

I can't think of any situation where the actions of one or two people leading to the punishment of a mass of people (making everyone FE IS a punishment) should in anyway be condoned.

jor
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: kzwb on January 21, 2013, 12:03 pm
Hm, I have a feeling she got done by cops
Or else she would be scamming for a lot LOT more..

Does not make sense to me either.

Any bet packages will start coming through...
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: maniacsxc on January 21, 2013, 12:08 pm
Hm, I have a feeling she got done by cops
Or else she would be scamming for a lot LOT more..

Does not make sense to me either.

Any bet packages will start coming through...

Thats what i thought too...but i read several people have the same tracking number?
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: Twelve_Pickles on January 21, 2013, 12:24 pm
Dont FE guys, even if it is for a vendor you know and 'trust.'
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: lucyintheskywd on January 21, 2013, 06:05 pm
Something odd is going on. I don't think fox is a scammer at the moment. It has only been a few days so far and right before she went off line, I was PM'ing her about a medium sized order and asked if I had to FE and she said that was fine for me because I had good stats. It was just a message to save hassle with scammers. She told me specifically not to tell anyone this but as it looks like she has gone, I may as well.

I also received product from her that was very very nice. Still got some actually.

If I was a scammer, I would have left my account open and getting as many last minute unlucky buyers to FE. Other people have commented that they were about to make large orders (100g+) from her and she just disappears. Weird.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: Dankbank1 on January 21, 2013, 06:11 pm
We will see this week coming up man if orders go through as planned than fuck me running, im wrong. But if not then we know she scammed hella people. What other possibilities do you have in mind lucyintheskywd?

And when did you receive your package?
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: nanpa2001 on January 21, 2013, 06:29 pm
Hm, I have a feeling she got done by cops
Or else she would be scamming for a lot LOT more..

Does not make sense to me either.

Any bet packages will start coming through...

Nope. That is wishful thinking. People have the identical tracking number means that a scam is going on. Feel sorry for the victims.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: tango on January 21, 2013, 10:03 pm
ahh well, hope she returns.

we just need to work out what date she last actually sent out items? hopefully some of us still receive whilst its in transit
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: masteroffrets on January 22, 2013, 02:31 am
anybody who's tracking says posted on 18/1 to US please message me so we can check out if these tracking numbers are infact identical.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: drdroopy on January 22, 2013, 02:59 am
mine was marked shipped 1/11/13 send me a msg as well if yours was also to compare tracking, im hoping mine made it out before vendor cashed out but im not keeping my hopes up, guess i take it as a loss
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: trolley on January 22, 2013, 03:55 am
"Your item, posted on 14/01/13 with reference XXXXXXXX has been received at our international mail centre and is being made ready for despatch overseas."

Feel free to PM me anyone that wants to compare tracking no's who's shipment was supposedly posted on the same date.

To be honest, I always thought Foxbelle77 was highly suspect. I thought and still think it probably wasn't a girl - just a facade to try to play on stereotypes of women being kinder.

Yep I agree I thought she played the whole girl thing up to much specially the flirty tone of her messages as well made me feel sus xx and the name as well. It's pretty clear that a large demographic of SR is male so would make sense to work it.

It also seemed to match the pattern That MrFire UK followed (who I maged to get a couple of great shippments from before he went rouge) which I realised at the time but it looked to me like she was still in the middle stages of the con. I got greedy as I was a $100 or so short of what I needed to order for an upcoming festival and she seemed to have great shipping times which would have made it before the fest.

Actually now I think of it the pics of her MDMA looked extremely similar to the stuff I got of MrFireUK late last year which was also really good while he was still sending it :-\

Maybe one and the same vendor? He also had a knack of coming across like a really good guy in the forums but kept the whole scam going for months longer.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: maniacsxc on January 22, 2013, 05:47 am
Okay this is weird.

I had 2 orders from her FEd on the 2nd (10g) and 7th (25g).

I just received a package today for the 2nd - 10G. Marked on the letter 8/1....

Dont know what to think of it...Just hope my 25g comes too.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: blueberry34 on January 23, 2013, 04:23 pm
yeah, i have a really bad feeling about this...

mine was posted on 1/17 and it says it has reached the destination country but hasn't updated at all since then (my country's postal service says that it hasn't received it yet... if anyone else is in a similar situation PLEASE message me so we can compare tracking numbers.

i am going to be so pissed if i got screwed over, but hey, that's the game we all play on here trying to pick out the scammers from the honest folks...

blueberry
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: nowayjose on January 23, 2013, 06:40 pm
As an update,
My package made it through customs (USA) and it has made it to where I live. It should be delivered today I think. Unless she intentionally fucked up the address, I would assume it's going to come to me. Seems highly unlikely that someone else from here ordered from her in that short time span and around the same time. I will update once/if I receive it. I must admit I'm pretty hopeful.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: maniacsxc on January 23, 2013, 07:04 pm
As an update,
My package made it through customs (USA) and it has made it to where I live. It should be delivered today I think. Unless she intentionally fucked up the address, I would assume it's going to come to me. Seems highly unlikely that someone else from here ordered from her in that short time span and around the same time. I will update once/if I receive it. I must admit I'm pretty hopeful.

When did you order and what day was it marked in transit??
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: nowayjose on January 23, 2013, 10:10 pm
As an update,
My package made it through customs (USA) and it has made it to where I live. It should be delivered today I think. Unless she intentionally fucked up the address, I would assume it's going to come to me. Seems highly unlikely that someone else from here ordered from her in that short time span and around the same time. I will update once/if I receive it. I must admit I'm pretty hopeful.

When did you order and what day was it marked in transit??

I ordered on the 11th and it was given to the post on the 14th.
I did not receive the package today, but I'm still unsure. I actually don't think it was supposed to come today. The tracking number just said that it left the sorting facility, not the actual post office that delivers to me, which is usually what they do. I was pretty disappointed when I checked the mail, though. Oh well. I'm expecting it tomorrow.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: tango on January 23, 2013, 10:39 pm
Good to hear people are still receiving their packages.

So at the current date, we can somewhat 'assume' that packages until 14th, were actually still posted. But obviously this still needs conforming from nowayjose!
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: blueberry34 on January 23, 2013, 11:05 pm
Question for those of you who had an international order tracked and it actually came/made it through customs:

According to royal mail, the package has arrived in the US, but when I check USPS tracking it says they haven't received it yet. So, let's assume I got lucky and foxbelle actually sent me something...would this mean that the package is held up at customs? This would make most sense to me...But once again, this is all assuming i didn't get fucked over (fingers crossed x88694545930). Any help/input would be much appreciated, thanks guys.

blueberry
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: trolley on January 23, 2013, 11:45 pm
OMG just checked my tracking and it has arrived in my destination city ready for delivery! Hadn't bothered for the last few days
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: acidsoldier on January 24, 2013, 06:21 pm
Any news ? I also wait... :C
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: nowayjose on January 24, 2013, 11:40 pm
So I think something is messed up. My guess right now is that it's a mistake on behalf of USPS but I can't be sure. The tracking hasn't updated since yesterday but it was processed at the sorting facility again. It wasn't in today's mail. I'm not sure what to expect at this point. It doesn't say undeliverable or anything like that. We'll see.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: masteroffrets on January 25, 2013, 12:45 pm
So I think something is messed up. My guess right now is that it's a mistake on behalf of USPS but I can't be sure. The tracking hasn't updated since yesterday but it was processed at the sorting facility again. It wasn't in today's mail. I'm not sure what to expect at this point. It doesn't say undeliverable or anything like that. We'll see.
Foxbelle shipped an empty package to a different address in your town to make it appear he sent the package. Its a common scammer tactic.
I cant believe people are actually whining about this. The guy had hardly any rep, suspiciously low prices, and required fe. I was more than 50 percent sure he was a scammer but decided to take the risk anyway so im not at all disappointed. Some of you seriously need to grow some balls
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: catfishinmysocks on January 25, 2013, 12:54 pm
Aye, prices got so low. Greed won over my suspicion and I'm very lucky my order got cancelled before I could FE, and I was actually getting impatient about it!
Lucky dodge.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: Dankbank1 on January 25, 2013, 02:07 pm
Fuck man yeah it's done with, I've had my hopes given up a long time ago.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: maniacsxc on January 25, 2013, 04:38 pm
Anyone receive anything lately??
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: blueberry34 on January 25, 2013, 05:19 pm
Had to delete a couple of my posts because I was drunk ranting like an idiot. I should have been thrown off by all the suspicious shit that foxbelle was pulling, but the average person doesn't want to pass up MDMA for 15 dollars a gram...I feel so stupid, never thought I would let myself get scammed like this. Moral of the story: NEVER FUCKING FE.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: morphinate on January 25, 2013, 08:16 pm
Question for those of you who had an international order tracked and it actually came/made it through customs:

According to royal mail, the package has arrived in the US, but when I check USPS tracking it says they haven't received it yet. So, let's assume I got lucky and foxbelle actually sent me something...would this mean that the package is held up at customs? This would make most sense to me...But once again, this is all assuming i didn't get fucked over (fingers crossed x88694545930). Any help/input would be much appreciated, thanks guys.

blueberry


I've had this happened with perfectly legal things ordered from overseas. Depending on the country it's coming from it usually takes a few days to a week between the time the foreign country says they sent it and usps says they received it.  I'd guess it has to do with a combination of trying to be economical with shipping/sorting and the wait in customs.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: drdroopy on January 26, 2013, 02:17 am
well something screwy is happening with my package, it was missent to a post office in the state next to mine "your item was misrouted. The error has been corrected and every effort is being made to deliver it as soon as possible" according to USPS, but this was on Monday, it is now Friday and still nothing.........
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: nowayjose on January 26, 2013, 04:42 am
So I think something is messed up. My guess right now is that it's a mistake on behalf of USPS but I can't be sure. The tracking hasn't updated since yesterday but it was processed at the sorting facility again. It wasn't in today's mail. I'm not sure what to expect at this point. It doesn't say undeliverable or anything like that. We'll see.
Foxbelle shipped an empty package to a different address in your town to make it appear he sent the package. Its a common scammer tactic.
I cant believe people are actually whining about this. The guy had hardly any rep, suspiciously low prices, and required fe. I was more than 50 percent sure he was a scammer but decided to take the risk anyway so im not at all disappointed. Some of you seriously need to grow some balls

What are you talking about, "grow some balls?" This has nothing to do with that. I wasn't even whining; I was just stating what was happening. You can't blame people for being a little hopeful and following their tracking number.

Anyway, I've given up hope at this point. My tracking just updated saying it was in a completely different state now. More weird shit though: it went to a state that's not even close to either coast. It wouldn't make sense that they were returning it to sender. I have no idea what's going on. It's kind of amusing.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: ralph123 on January 26, 2013, 09:34 am
Oh you guys with the tracked shipping lol Sometimes there are errors made in the system. Haven't there been enough evidence that shows where foxbelle77 sent everyone the same tracking number? That's a dead givaway sorry for all you that lost on that deal I  was wanting to order as well after reading about all those over weight orders in the UK

Guess foxbelle77 didn't have what it takes to be a good vendor
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: nowayjose on January 26, 2013, 10:56 pm
Not everyone had the same tracking. Mine actually came to the area where I live.

Anyway, it was finally labelled as dead mail.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: blueberry34 on January 29, 2013, 05:29 pm
I've been checking the tracking just for shits and giggles, and it says the package left the NY, NY USPS location several days ago but still hasn't arrived anywhere. The drive from New York City to where I live only takes a small fraction of a day so I'm confused...where the fuck is this thing even going!!?

I have given up all hope obviously, but like nowayjose said, it's actually kind of amusing watch...

Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: paddymiller on February 02, 2013, 01:42 pm
I got fucked over too, as my usual vendor was away at the time, stupidly fucking FE'd as I was desperate, oh well, lesson learnt.

DONT FE!
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: tango on February 02, 2013, 03:05 pm
yeah doesnt look mine is arriving either :(

sucks
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: maniacsxc on February 03, 2013, 05:53 am
Yeh think my 25g order is down the drain
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: blueberry34 on February 03, 2013, 06:32 pm
Don't worry....there's this bitch named Karma. She really enjoys biting people in the ass.

Especially people who build up false trust and then use it to take other people's money and run.

Foxbelle had the potential to be a damn good vendor, but preferred to take the grimey way out. I have no respect for that. The universal flow of douchebaggery and fuckery continues...
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: snark on February 03, 2013, 10:15 pm
I feel for everyone who got fucked over... I was super close to ordering but the FE stopped me.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: Crack Fox on February 06, 2013, 12:47 am
Yeah My man..

I feel for all of us who got screwed over.
I really bit the bullet on this one.. and lost everything I had to my name

It just reaffirms how much I appreciate the REAL vendors out here on the road. This may be a easy way to scam people, but fuck I could never live with myself knowing I screwed someone or many out of thousands of dollars that they may have needed...

I hope to one day be able to provide something here to the good people of the road. Good luck to everyone picking up after this BS scammer.

Did anyone else see UK Mandy Man back up and with listings?! Their story looks like Foxbelle77's.. I'm off to do more research
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: zenvoboy on February 09, 2013, 05:47 pm
Really shocked/gutted about this.

I ordered 3.5g not long before she vanished. Service was excellent, communication & forum activity all good, prices were incredible, and above all, the MDMA was the best I've had. I really did trust she was an honest, genuine vendor, set to stick around for the long term and become the top UK MDMA vendor on SR.

I was actually just logging in now to post a review full of praise after trying her stuff last weekend...

She's probably lurking under a different username now, laughing at everybody. Fuggin' bitch.
...and setting up a new SR vendor account to do this whole thing all over again.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: Dankbank1 on February 09, 2013, 06:49 pm
If you guys are eu, uk go with space factory. He has amazing prices, and he stays in escrow. He may be new but I'd reccomend him, currently have a 30g in transit everything looks great. ESCROW FTW
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: PrincessHIGH on February 10, 2013, 04:01 pm
I'm shocked by this and it deeply saddens me when I write reviews and go to the trouble of taking pictures, they end up to being scum of the earth scammers! I am rolling pretty hard off some of foxbelle's sample she sent me when she first started vending (from what I can remember she sent me 3.5 in two packages, the first one she underpaid postage on so took awhile to make it's way through the system). Moral of the story is to never FE no matter what, I feel so sorry for all of you guys involved with this my kindest thoughts go out to all of you.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: lucyintheskywd on February 10, 2013, 06:19 pm
The worst part, apart from the lost $$$ of ripped off customers, is the fact that the initial shipments were soooo good. I got 2.3g for free and it was solid clear crystal. This poses a problem in that anyone with access to that quality of MDMA in the UK will be back and will do the same thing again and again.

Once again, never FE. I have only ever FE'd for sellers that have review pages over 100 pages long.
Title: Re: What happened to foxbelle77?
Post by: soralangg on February 10, 2013, 09:05 pm
Lucy and Princess, Im in the same boat as yourselves, I also received one of those initial free samples and wrote up a glowing review. It does prey on my mind a bit, but at the end of the day I was just trying to contribute to the community and for this to happen saddens me. Foxbelle had great potential with that stuff, such a pity this happened.