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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: malinche on April 17, 2013, 10:52 pm

Title: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: malinche on April 17, 2013, 10:52 pm
Just curious what everyone's thoughts are about this. I'm sure the mail will run as usual.
Do you think customs will be beefed up any? Doesn't seem relevant considering the ricin was sent from within the states.
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: RoxiPal on April 17, 2013, 11:07 pm
It won't change a damned thing.  Continue as planned
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: tango on April 18, 2013, 12:25 am
It will probably only effect mail going into official/government departments
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: flwrchlds9 on April 18, 2013, 09:38 am
If you send to senate building, maybe a problem. Any place else, no change.

If you sending to senate building maybe that explain why they act like they on drugs there ;)
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: NickNack on April 18, 2013, 10:21 am
More importantly Imo...

How did they identify and catch the guy so quick???

Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: Drks1ide on April 18, 2013, 10:30 am
More importantly Imo...

How did they identify and catch the guy so quick???
There are a few ways .  HUMIT, he talked to someone about his plans in person . Signit did something online to get himself flagged.  Or the easiest  letter was backtracked to the drop off and he was identified via some security footage. Then SIGNIT comes into play .  As plain as a Monday. 
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: 12345 on April 18, 2013, 12:00 pm
I was more afraid of the question where they got the ricin from and if it was sourced online, if there will be a public scream and some agency will be forced to do something against our online community.
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: Drks1ide on April 18, 2013, 12:14 pm
I was more afraid of the question where they got the ricin from and if it was sourced online, if there will be a public scream and some agency will be forced to do something against our online community.
South America via Texas or California.  Finalized product was made some where in in the south east or Midwest .   Some chemist with a taste for something exotic .  There are not that many people in the states with that kind of knowledge .
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: DeadRa7 on April 18, 2013, 10:14 pm
I was more afraid of the question where they got the ricin from and if it was sourced online, if there will be a public scream and some agency will be forced to do something against our online community.
South America via Texas or California.  Finalized product was made some where in in the south east or Midwest .   Some chemist with a taste for something exotic .  There are not that many people in the states with that kind of knowledge .
Walter White will hook you up with some ricin-dude killed a whole cartel with that shit.
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: Drks1ide on April 18, 2013, 10:35 pm
I was more afraid of the question where they got the ricin from and if it was sourced online, if there will be a public scream and some agency will be forced to do something against our online community.
South America via Texas or California.  Finalized product was made some where in in the south east or Midwest .   Some chemist with a taste for something exotic .  There are not that many people in the states with that kind of knowledge .
Walter White will hook you up with some ricin-dude killed a whole cartel with that shit.
Sorry , not interested .
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: NickNack on April 19, 2013, 01:11 am
More importantly Imo...

How did they identify and catch the guy so quick???
There are a few ways .  HUMIT, he talked to someone about his plans in person . Signit did something online to get himself flagged.  Or the easiest  letter was backtracked to the drop off and he was identified via some security footage. Then SIGNIT comes into play .  As plain as a Monday.

Not that LE is saying this is how he was caught...

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Among several other similarities, Kevin Curtis used the phrase “This is KC and I approve this message” in a previous Facebook post — the same exact phrase included in the ricin-laced letters.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/17/police-id-suspect-arrested-in-connection-to-ricin-letters/

lol I so love you facebook users... cant wait for FB to come out with a brain implant for ya.



I do remember Ricin being sold on BMR just a couple weeks ago, someone did buy it.. so you never know. other than that you can expect strict processing soon. upgraded XRays, GCMS machines.. etc..  the bottom line is, things WILL change, maybe not today, but soon. it was gonna happen either way. good things dont last and the government is always trying to catch up to us "bad guys".   

No way could every letter and parcel be GCMS'd and X-rayed... so what will it matter if they are "upgraded" in the USPS forensics lab?  Upgraded how?  I'm sure their GCMS/X-ray's are already top of the line.
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: Drks1ide on April 19, 2013, 01:14 am
I was more afraid of the question where they got the ricin from and if it was sourced online, if there will be a public scream and some agency will be forced to do something against our online community.
South America via Texas or California.  Finalized product was made some where in in the south east or Midwest .   Some chemist with a taste for something exotic .  There are not that many people in the states with that kind of knowledge .
It really isn't that hard to extract ricin from castor beans, so I doubt that they had to purchase it online..
The plant is not native to CONUS.
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: sofish89 on April 19, 2013, 04:32 am
it will now be easier to smuggle drugs. With the country now spending more time and resources looking for ricin, they'll miss the drug packages. They'll train more drug dogs to sniff ricin or cyanide instead of cocaine or heroin. Won't make much of a difference, but it tips it slightly in our favor IMO
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: fatoldsun on April 20, 2013, 12:31 am
Actually I think it might make them more lax, since they successfully caught this one. They probably think their system works beautifully now.
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: MrHigh on April 21, 2013, 09:59 am
1984 is 29 years late.
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: jagfug on April 21, 2013, 10:43 am
I don't think it's even true. For whatever reason they put this story out at the same time as the terrorist bombings in Boston. Seems the same thing happened around 9-11. No stories get out by accident anymore. They are put out. The days of Watergate are over. The White House press corps, are nothing more than stenographers waiting for the next set of talking points.

Perhaps the ricin story was made up to trigger sympathy for an administration that let us down by deballing agencies like the FBI, with their liberal pacifist ideologies. These agencies should've been profiling these Chechen Muslim radicals, instead they were probably attending diversity training on how not to 'offend' Muslims.

Either way, I don't think it will have an effect on SR.
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: sofish89 on April 21, 2013, 12:54 pm
Altho I'm a little nervous how they were actually able to trace back that letter so quickly back to the person who wrote it..
Does that mean any letter or pack with drugs can be traced back to the person who sent it if they put in enough time and resources?
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: malinche on April 21, 2013, 01:27 pm
I haven't read too in depth about the guy they busted, but I recall a headline stating he was mentally ill so if that is the case then he probably didn't take the same precaution people from the road do when mailing stuff. That or it is a set up which made it so easy for them to find the "culprit".

I just hope nothing too serious happens via mail that would give the government the support they need to just search mail as they please.


Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: southern m1 on April 22, 2013, 01:13 am
There was a news article that stated the reason for his capture so fast was that he has a long history of writing letters to national leaders, his package was shipped without a return address, and he included writing and information which was included on his facebook page.
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: SOUTHPAW on April 22, 2013, 03:44 am
Oh boy....
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: kmfkewm on April 22, 2013, 08:29 pm
The government has always known of the mail as a potential risk vector, nothing will change.
Title: Re: How do you think "ricin" in the mail is going to effect shipments?
Post by: pkizenko98 on April 22, 2013, 09:03 pm
I do remember Ricin being sold on BMR just a couple weeks ago, someone did buy it.. so you never know. other than that you can expect strict processing soon. upgraded XRays, GCMS machines.. etc..  the bottom line is, things WILL change, maybe not today, but soon. it was gonna happen either way. good things dont last and the government is always trying to catch up to us "bad guys".


I half agree with this, all I can say is everyone be as safe as possible and enjoy it while it last!