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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: dr gonzo on May 10, 2013, 08:49 pm
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Hey gang, I'm sure everything is fine but I got an order taking awhile. It was priority and I received a few packages I ordered after this one from SW. He won't respond to my messages so I thought I would throw it out there to see if any others are in the same boat. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Alright, three things scare me here, he's ignoring my PM's, just started a FE policy, and now he's having a sale....damn. I'm not 100% I got took, and if I'm wrong I'll eat my words, but I've been around here a while, and something is not right for sure. Proceed with caution fellow SR's.
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was about to deal with him. thanks Gonzo. hows his cola
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I wish I could tell you friend, this was my first order with him, had heard all good things. I FE'd, and I should know better, so if he got me, I had it coming, but if I can save a few others from getting ripped off I'll feel a little better.
By the way, two others have contacted me in the same boat. Also, he's got a couple of 1's for feedback now, so.....
NEVER FE!
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The 1's he got for feedback were from users who just finalized. Correct me if I'm being an idiot in misunderstanding how SR feedback works but how can someone who just finalized, say, 14 hours ago, say they didn't receive their pack after finalizing?
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No sir, you do not understand how feedback works. First, you don't have to enter your feedback at the time of finalizing, you can just do nothing, and the feedback will remain in your orders page until you decide to enter your feedback. Second, you can go back and edit your feedback for up to a couple of months I believe.
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I've never tried not leaving feedback after finalizing. Can you confirm that you can hit the finalize button and have nothing show up on the vendor's feedback if you choose not to?
But as to your second point, I understand the edit function as I've used it before but it doesn't change the date of your original feedback. So, if I left feedback a month ago and then edit it today, it'll still show that it was left a month ago.
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You're right. Feedback doesn't have to be left at time of Finalization. My bad. Thanks for correcting me.
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Nothing today kids. The other people I'm in touch with didn't receive either. Not looking good. I'm at 6 days.
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first, all apologies for this long post.
idk this vendor but i just read over 25 pages of reviews on his SR page. there are 4 recent 1/5 saying they never got a pkg. there's even a 5/5 from about a month ago where the buyer said the coke was crappy but the xanax was great, still left a 5/5. that review was just a few down from one where the person said he does his coke IV, has used for many years (although he didn't say how "many") and it made him have to sit down and was a major bell ringer. so... "quality" means diff things to diff ppl, ime.
anyway,
do you know the date it was actually put in the mail? that date could be several days later than the date he marked it "in transit" and you finalized.
as far as priority mail, i know what you mean that usually doesn't take longer than 4 days max from when it was accepted by the p.o.
however, about 3 months ago i had a priority pkg go missing for 12 -business- days. it left the accepting p.o., the next tracking update was 2 days later at a NJ distribution center.
it was not a SR pkg but had my legit Rx's in it, one of which was a Schedule II much sought after med. after 6 business days and no further tracking updates, i was beginning to freak thinking that some postal employee in NJ had heard or felt something and absconded with my pkg. i did not want to make all the calls that i would have had to make and draw attention from ppl i don't want any attention from because of the Schedule II med involved, y'know...
after 8 business days, i filed a case with my p.o. so they could try to chase it down. 4 days later they called me to tell me it had just arrived (i have a p.o. box). when i picked it up and asked if they ever got any info about what happened, they told me a worker at the NJ center had transposed the first two numbers on the zip code when he/she entered it. it had taken a trip to the st. louis area before finally getting turned back around and delivered to me. idk if that was just a bs excuse but i could see it happening.
so i did ask a personal friend who works for the p.o. about this and he said it was def possible and happened more often than ppl prob imagined. many processing centers have been closed over the past few years and there are many items hand entered now. not everything is scanned through a machine because there's such an overload at the processing centers that are still open.
like i said, idk this vendor but from all the reviews i read, and a few did mentioned shipping was kinda slow, i really hope it's just floating around in USPS hell and will show up for you. sure, i suppose he could be selectively scamming but 4 out of 250+ transactions?? idk what to think but i'm both hopeful and inclined to think this is more likely a p.o. issue because i've got more weird p.o. stories than the one above but it would take a whole book to tell them all. USPS has fucked up my mail plenty of times.
i'm pulling for you that it shows up very soon and i totally understand and empathize with the anxiety you're feeling.
best of luck. please do update next week when the mail runs again. i'd really like to know how this turns out.
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Thank you for the kind and very informative post. I'm still not saying I got ripped off for sure, it just looks bad, especially since, now 4 people have contacted me with the exact same problem, and we all ordered at the same time. Just not sure what to make of it.
Also, if the vendor would just respond to one of our messages, I would feel much better. I messaged them before the weekend, and they've been on everyday, so again, what am I to think? :-[
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Doesn't look good, but be patient.
If you FE'd, that's your own fault either way.
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Doesn't look good, but be patient.
If you FE'd, that's your own fault either way.
+1 to you sir. As I stated earlier in this thread, because I FE'd, if this does go south, it's completely on me.
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I don't like how on his page it says FE option for free shipping. Yet the only option for the mail is FE.
I hate to say it but if this trend continues, he could easily turn scammer.
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Now you've got me wondering gonzo. I fe'd with him a few days ago. It's totally my fault if I get burned. Another reminder not to FE. His product sounds nice from the reviews that why i took a chance. Oh well, the world keeps turning...
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It's Monday morning and he hasn't even replied to messages from 4 days ago, yet he's been on everyday. What the fuck?! At least PM me and say anything, hell, say you ripped me off, that will at least give me some closure.
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what date did you order?
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Ordered 5/5, finalized 5/6.
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Sounds to me like y'all got fuckin' HOSED.
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I had a sample from SW a few weeks ago.... He sent a 1/4 g of cola and one xanax bar. The cola was very good when injected. He seemed extremely friendly and honest. He actually corrected a mistake he made that I couldn't have done anything about. That act alone makes me think this is a mistake of some kind and he will probably get in touch with you as soon as he can. He can be a tad slow at times, when it comes to addressing problems. I would give it a cple more days before you decide to out him in the forums and make accusations. My gut tells me he will resolve the issue like a gentleman. Good luck to you guys and take care!
-nwpg
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Nothing again today. He's obviously been active on SR everyday, including the weekend, yet he won't just drop me a line and say anything. Somebody explain that one for me please?
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Recent feedback:
-DO NOT FE. Vendor has not even read my messages of concern. I have not received package after 8 days. Priority mail NEVER takes longer than 4 days to my house. I'm very suspicious of a scam but if SW would at least answer me and check the tracking like he says he'll do on his page I'd be a lot more understanding. If anyone has actually received their package please post in SW's cola review thread in the forums. If he responds back to me and addresses my concerns I will change this feedback.
- FE, No issue. Multiple orders, Good vendor.
UPDATE:
No package or communication. Vendor has been reliable so could have trouble, but wanted to make others aware.
And he still won't contact me either.
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Nothing again today. :(
Also, wasn't the sale supposed to end yesterday?
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fucking Widespread Panic fans
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fucking Widespread Panic fans
Why the negativity? Do you think I'm making this up so I can rip a vendor off for $90? I've been around this place for a minute friend, I've seen all kinds of wacky stuff. Would you have me keep my mouth shut so perhaps others can be taken? That's not how this shit works, these forums are here for us to look out for one another. I hope you never have to deal with any BS like this.
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fucking Widespread Panic fans
Why the negativity? Do you think I'm making this up so I can rip a vendor off for $90? I've been around this place for a minute friend, I've seen all kinds of wacky stuff. Would you have me keep my mouth shut so perhaps others can be taken? That's not how this shit works, these forums are here for us to look out for one another. I hope you never have to deal with any BS like this.
you misunderstood me.
i was talking about Space Wrangler.
lol. trust me. i'm on your team, guy.
sorry if you like Panic. :*
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fucking Widespread Panic fans
Why the negativity? Do you think I'm making this up so I can rip a vendor off for $90? I've been around this place for a minute friend, I've seen all kinds of wacky stuff. Would you have me keep my mouth shut so perhaps others can be taken? That's not how this shit works, these forums are here for us to look out for one another. I hope you never have to deal with any BS like this.
"SpaceWrangler" is the title of a Widespread Panic album :)
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fucking Widespread Panic fans
Why the negativity? Do you think I'm making this up so I can rip a vendor off for $90? I've been around this place for a minute friend, I've seen all kinds of wacky stuff. Would you have me keep my mouth shut so perhaps others can be taken? That's not how this shit works, these forums are here for us to look out for one another. I hope you never have to deal with any BS like this.
you misunderstood me.
i was talking about Space Wrangler.
lol. trust me. i'm on your team, guy.
sorry if you like Panic. :*
Damn..... I went ahead and put my tin foil hat on, I'm an idiot. I apologize for my tone sir. +1 positive mojo in your direction......huh?
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fucking Widespread Panic fans
Why the negativity? Do you think I'm making this up so I can rip a vendor off for $90? I've been around this place for a minute friend, I've seen all kinds of wacky stuff. Would you have me keep my mouth shut so perhaps others can be taken? That's not how this shit works, these forums are here for us to look out for one another. I hope you never have to deal with any BS like this.
you misunderstood me.
i was talking about Space Wrangler.
lol. trust me. i'm on your team, guy.
sorry if you like Panic. :*
Damn..... I went ahead and put my tin foil hat on, I'm an idiot. I apologize for my tone sir. +1 positive mojo in your direction......huh?
***CLEARNET LINK***
http://bit.ly/18JwPWr
:D ;D 8) :-X :P
pulling for ya, here. i'm in my own personal hell right now worried sick about a new vendor who may have fucked up and gotten something intercepted. like i said, i'm on your team, big guy. if you haven't yet, take that link over to your clearnet browser for a laugh/explanation
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People, I've heard from numerous others who are experiencing the same problem I am....STOP ORDERING! He's pulled a Tony76. I'm trying to help you here.
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People, I've heard from numerous others who are experiencing the same problem I am....STOP ORDERING! He's pulled a Tony76. I'm trying to help you here.
I agree. Whatever the case may be, people should hold off from ordering.
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people are still ordering from him?
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people are still ordering from him?
Doesn't look like it... there are still some orders trickling in but not a lot. Surprised there aren't more people speaking up, though. It's a shame because I'm a big SW fan and was going to place an order this week with him... Not sure I'll buy from him again unless he takes off his FE requirement now.
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people are still ordering from him?
Doesn't look like it... there are still some orders trickling in but not a lot. Surprised there aren't more people speaking up, though. It's a shame because I'm a big SW fan and was going to place an order this week with him... Not sure I'll buy from him again unless he takes off his FE requirement now.
I'm not sure if he has anything listed right now (it comes and goes really quick) but a vendor named bcpltd sells the FIREMOST coke.
Super legit, super reliable. I don't FE for anybody, but I FE for him. Every time.
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I'm not sure if he has anything listed right now (it comes and goes really quick) but a vendor named bcpltd sells the FIREMOST coke.
Super legit, super reliable. I don't FE for anybody, but I FE for him. Every time.
I've had two orders from him, and both went well. Always spare coin and small amounts each time so I don't have to think twice about FE. In any case, he put listings up yesterday, photos and all, and I put in an order after I had finished my larger orders. Today he's taken the listings down and hasn't processed my current order. Not worried since it's small and I haven't finalized anyway. bcpltd is a good option if you're not in a hurry and don't have to make a certain date. Sadly, I'm never able to plan that far ahead so I usually have stuff from other vendors coming in as my quicker options (the ones that ship priority/express etc.) and have bcpltd as almost a surprise that shows up without me having expected it.
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Godofall is another good option
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It's official folks, SW went rouge. :(
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I don't suppose anyone has received their missing packages from SW, or heard from him? I know I haven't. It seems that they should lock the vendor account, but it is still active, and SW is logging in every day presumably still taking orders.
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A real shame. Admin should do something in case people are still ordering even with all the negative feedback.
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I know it's stupid, but I keep thinking that SW will come forward with a story of some RL emergency that prevented him from making shipments, and that he's going to make it right. Of course that wouldn't explain the total lack of communication with customers. How does a guy go from having such great feedback to requiring FE and then not shipping? It's been a learning experience for me (and no doubt also for the other buyers who are SOL), and should be a cautionary tale for those considering FE'ing with ANY vendor!
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I don't think that's a stupid thought. That's what I think too. I think something's gone really wrong for him.
I'm not afraid to admit it though: I'll miss SW. Before all this FE stuff, he was my favorite vendor. Quick to respond to messages... friendly... Even if it is just an anonymous business transaction at the end of the day, all my dealings with him made me feel like this was a dude I'd be able to have a beer with.
Anyway, I do hope to some day find out what the heck happened though. In the mean time, I wonder why the mods haven't responded more on these forums to give their opinions... because even though he stiffed quite a number of people out of their coins, it doesn't seem like a cut-and-dry premeditated FE scam.
Hope you're not out too much coin, Elwood.
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Thanks for those kind words, Ozy. I'd leave you some karma if I had enough posts! I'll try to remember to do so once I do.
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Well, this fucking sucks. SW was my favorite vendor, always so honest and forthright and amazing customer service. Not to mention the best coke I've ever had! I was hoping to place an order with him soon. I totally would've FE'd too, because I trusted him so much. Good thing I pay attention!
About a month ago, his account page said he was going underground because he'd been fucked over by too many buyers or something. As a trusted buyer I received a link to his secret listing, but I had already ordered from someone else, so I didn't order from SW. I wonder if this is some sort of revenge-based scam, which would be stupid, because he had so many loyal customers and superior product. Oh well. Looks like it's over.
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Fuck Space Wrangler for scamming me and others. You guys order from PablosPuro!!! I just received an order of his pure and it is the best cocaine I've ever had! Pure fishscale that flakes apart so nicely, amazing in all aspects! No i am not sponsored by Pablos in any way just wanted to let heads know he has the fish!!!
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Thanks for those kind words, Ozy. I'd leave you some karma if I had enough posts! I'll try to remember to do so once I do.
did it for ya ;)
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Thanks bud :) Back atcha.
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Thanks for those kind words, Ozy. I'd leave you some karma if I had enough posts! I'll try to remember to do so once I do.
did it for ya ;)
Thanks bro. I'll get back to you once I'm able.
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+1 to the originator of this karmic circle!
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Has everybody that FE'd and didn't received reported the vendor? I still see orders sometimes trickling in, probably for those who don't look at feedback or the forums. I hate to say this, because SW was my favorite, but shouldn't his account be disabled now with everyone who FE'd recently not receiving their product? He still logs in every day or so and still ZERO explanation.
His 1g Coke listing is pretty high up on the first page of domestic listings... for someone in a hurry, they could easily get sucked into it before seeing what's up.
MODS - can you pass this along to SR admin?
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+1 Yea, it's getting a little ridiculous now. Where you at Mods?
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Yes, I filled out the report, and recommended that they freeze the account. I don't know if they ever did anything, but I noticed today that SW hasn't logged in for 2 days, even tho there are still active listings.
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Fuck Space Wrangler for scamming me and others. You guys order from PablosPuro!!! I just received an order of his pure and it is the best cocaine I've ever had! Pure fishscale that flakes apart so nicely, amazing in all aspects! No i am not sponsored by Pablos in any way just wanted to let heads know he has the fish!!!
I've got some coming from Pablo, his pure, and some coming from Bungee . I just ordered both so it will be a bit B4 I can sample .,but, if they both live up to my expectations, well, just Yee Fuckin Haaaa!!
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Fuck Space Wrangler for scamming me and others. You guys order from PablosPuro!!! I just received an order of his pure and it is the best cocaine I've ever had! Pure fishscale that flakes apart so nicely, amazing in all aspects! No i am not sponsored by Pablos in any way just wanted to let heads know he has the fish!!!
I've got some coming from Pablo, his pure, and some coming from Bungee . I just ordered both so it will be a bit B4 I can sample .,but, if they both live up to my expectations, well, just Yee Fuckin Haaaa!!
My first order from Pablos was pretty damn good but now I'm wondering if it was his social by accident or just a different batch. This past order 3.5 grams I got 2 bags. One bag (3.4 with bag) had pasty soft looking coke in it.(FIRE!) The other smaller bag (1.2 grams with bag) had the more powdery hard rocks in it looks like the stuff I got in my first order. I haven't tried that yet. I can tell you the 3.4 bag I received is the finest cocaine I've ever done or seen. Pure soft fish scale that flakes apart so nicely!!! Fuckin amazing cocaine!! The other batch I got from him was more powdery with hard rocks. I messaged Pablos to clarify the difference between the two if I did get some social by mix up. No response.
If you get the same fish scale I got you are fucking psyched!!!
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Thanks for those kind words, Ozy. I'd leave you some karma if I had enough posts! I'll try to remember to do so once I do.
did it for ya ;)
Thanks bro. I'll get back to you once I'm able.
+1 to Ozy and Lunar, and to Dr Gonzo.
Looks like SW's listings are no longer up.
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Check out MarloStanfield. Grade = A- but deffffinitely legit at the price point, and quick as fuck, too.
bcpltd requires FE but is SUPER DUPER legit, I have ordered from him SEVERAL times and NEVER had an issue, coke is always AAA+++ (at least what I've gotten.)
Order with confidence from either of these gentlement.
Peace