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Market => Product requests => Topic started by: MikeMurdock on March 01, 2012, 04:35 am

Title: Mescaline and Pure DMT Samples
Post by: MikeMurdock on March 01, 2012, 04:35 am
Hello!  I just wanted to put a request out there for some mescaline samples.  The price out there now is pretty steep (apparently mescaline is hard to come by, Huxley would be sad) and I was looking to try some before I make any sort of bigger investment, since I've never tried it before.  And for some pure DMT samples. 
Title: Re: Mescaline and Pure DMT Samples
Post by: cnip on March 01, 2012, 10:10 am
i too would be interested! as iv only ever tried mushrooms [have lsd buy haven't tried it yet...], the steeper prices put me off [particularly the mescaline].
thanks guys
Title: Re: Mescaline and Pure DMT Samples
Post by: GammaGoblin on March 01, 2012, 11:01 am
Just wait until 6th March for our mesc restock... ;)
Title: Re: Mescaline and Pure DMT Samples
Post by: ShieLdz on March 01, 2012, 11:06 am
Hello!  I just wanted to put a request out there for some mescaline samples.  The price out there now is pretty steep (apparently mescaline is hard to come by, Huxley would be sad) and I was looking to try some before I make any sort of bigger investment, since I've never tried it before.  And for some pure DMT samples.

Huxley would be so fucked up LSD he wouldn't care! lol
Title: Re: Mescaline and Pure DMT Samples
Post by: nevesurOMA on March 01, 2012, 11:10 am
agree.... pure DMT lack here on SR is sooooo depressing. I'm waiting now for some lsd stamps from an apparently trusted vendor. if everything goes fine with those, my next move will be mescaline :)
Title: Re: Mescaline and Pure DMT Samples
Post by: MikeMurdock on March 01, 2012, 01:15 pm
Damn, it looks like there is a serious demand for these products.  I'll be looking out for it on March 6th.  I know double-blind experiments have been done and the participants couldn't tell the difference between mescaline and LSD, but I still want to try it.  It's gotta be different somehow
Title: Re: Mescaline and Pure DMT Samples
Post by: GammaGoblin on March 01, 2012, 02:04 pm
It's very different, test subjects must have been very inexperienced.
Title: Re: Mescaline and Pure DMT Samples
Post by: ShieLdz on March 01, 2012, 02:35 pm
Damn, it looks like there is a serious demand for these products.  I'll be looking out for it on March 6th.  I know double-blind experiments have been done and the participants couldn't tell the difference between mescaline and LSD, but I still want to try it.  It's gotta be different somehow
i don't about this...I heard the same thing about all three mscal, acid, and shrooms. And I've never done mescal (will this weekend though) but I can for sure tell the difference between boomer and syd. If nothing else the come-up, come-down, and duration for all three is going to be different. I'm with gg, I think the test subjects were just ignorant to differnent. Plus in the MKULTRA days they found similar results, but I think that's because from an outside perspective, like that of the test administrators, it would be nearly impossible to distinguish one persons subjective point of view from another.
I'll bet all the test subjects exhibited the following: ego loss, oev's, cev's, slight nausea or digestion problems, mood swings, bouts of euphoria, and various levels of introspection...so yeah in that sense they are all exactly alike. HOWEVER just because a honda and a ferrari are both cars, it doesn't mean they're the same  ;)
Title: Re: Mescaline and Pure DMT Samples
Post by: cuba on March 01, 2012, 04:03 pm
I'm intrested in getting mescaline also....mostly for Ultra. i feel that would be the perfect drug for that environment since its like a 12 hour concert per day.
Title: Re: Mescaline and Pure DMT Samples
Post by: MagicMan on March 01, 2012, 04:07 pm
just also wanted to express interest in mescaline
Title: Re: Mescaline and Pure DMT Samples
Post by: spacewasp on March 01, 2012, 04:46 pm
I'm intrested in getting mescaline also....mostly for Ultra. i feel that would be the perfect drug for that environment since its like a 12 hour concert per day.

I have never tried pure mescaline, though based on my readings and experiences with cacti, I'm gonna have to disagree with you.  From what I can tell, the spirit of mescaline has a very quiet and whispery voice so a 12 hour concert is just going to drown out its voice.  I think you would want to be in a very quiet environment...mescalito is from the desert, remember.

I recommend LSD for a 12 hour concert because that is a drug which really thrives on stimuli/input.  save the mescaline for when you are intending to undertake a spiritual journey
Title: Re: Mescaline and Pure DMT Samples
Post by: MikeMurdock on March 01, 2012, 05:27 pm
It seems likely that different experiences between mescaline, LSD, and psilocin/psilocybin mushrooms are likely caused by inequivalent dosages.  According to Isbell*, 1mcg of LSD=45mcg of psilocin, 1mcg of psilocin=66mcg of mescaline, and 1mcg LSD=2,970mcg mescaline.  Obviously, drugs manifest different effects at different dosages as well.  According to erowid, a common dose for LSD is 100mcg, 2g for psilocybin/psilocin mushrooms, and 250mg for pure mescaline.  If mushrooms are about 1.3% psychedelic compounds**, then 2g of mushrooms contains about 26,000mcg of pure psilocin/psilocybin. 

Based on Isbell's numbers (and some math), this means that 2g of mushrooms is about 5.78 average doses of acid.  Furthermore, this means that 250 mg of pure mescaline is about 0.84 hits of acid.  So, the average dose of mushrooms is much stronger than the average dose for LSD and would likely produce much more different effects.  In the same way, the average dosage for mesacaline is slightly lower than LSD, this could explain why people often cite mescaline as more relaxing or soothing, simply because their dosage isn't as potent. 


*http://www.springerlink.com/content/j2401730q317054m/fulltext.pdf
**http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info9.shtml
Title: Re: Mescaline and Pure DMT Samples
Post by: tordemon on March 01, 2012, 09:36 pm
It seems likely that different experiences between mescaline, LSD, and psilocin/psilocybin mushrooms are likely caused by inequivalent dosages.  According to Isbell*, 1mcg of LSD=45mcg of psilocin, 1mcg of psilocin=66mcg of mescaline, and 1mcg LSD=2,970mcg mescaline.  Obviously, drugs manifest different effects at different dosages as well.  According to erowid, a common dose for LSD is 100mcg, 2g for psilocybin/psilocin mushrooms, and 250mg for pure mescaline.  If mushrooms are about 1.3% psychedelic compounds**, then 2g of mushrooms contains about 26,000mcg of pure psilocin/psilocybin. 

Based on Isbell's numbers (and some math), this means that 2g of mushrooms is about 5.78 average doses of acid.  Furthermore, this means that 250 mg of pure mescaline is about 0.84 hits of acid.  So, the average dose of mushrooms is much stronger than the average dose for LSD and would likely produce much more different effects.  In the same way, the average dosage for mesacaline is slightly lower than LSD, this could explain why people often cite mescaline as more relaxing or soothing, simply because their dosage isn't as potent. 


*http://www.springerlink.com/content/j2401730q317054m/fulltext.pdf
**http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info9.shtml

I'd have to disagree with that. Having taken upwards of 30 different psychedelics (though unfortunately not yet including a full dose of mescaline), they are very perceptively different. I would say if I put all of the ones I've tried into capsules and picked one at random, I'd have a 2/3 chance of getting it correct.

I've been able to tell the difference between LSD and psilocybin, but I'd SERIOUSLY doubt that people couldn't tell the difference between either of the two and mescaline. The first two are tryptamines, which usually cause very distinct things (ie temperature regulation difficulties, sleepiness or dreamy states), and the last, mescaline, is a phenethylamine, which usually cause stimulation and alertness among other effects.

But, to get back to the topic, samples of Mescaline would be difficult; Mescaline requires very high dosages (highest of any pure psych I know of), and it is also one of the most expensive. I wouldn't see much of a reason to really go for below a gram.