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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: psychoknot on April 04, 2013, 06:08 am
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I'm starting to notice a several customer reviews on their vendor page stating that their package did not arrive.
I understand ordering from The Netherlands comes with a certain degree of risk but their price and product
review were very enticing. However, none of the reviews that state that they "did not receive their package"
provide any context as to which country they were from. So my question(s) is:
If you ordered from the Chemicalsisters some time after March 23rd, when they came back from their little hiatus,
have you or have you not receive your package yet? Or if you have placed an order with them in the past, did it ever arrive?
I understand that the package might take longer than expected but this is just more of an inquiry, more of a curiosity, that I have.
Thanks,
psychoknot
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This is quoted by kittfish. He's unable to post because of his noob status.
"I've still not reached my 50 post limit to get out of the newbie forum, but I saw your post about the ChemicalSisters and wanted to chime in. I'm currently at 21days with no shipment, and have extended it through the RC for an additional 10 days. I noticed that they marked it as shipped 2days before they sent the message saying that it was shipped. It sucks that after researching and placing my order, I begin to notice a ton of no shipment feedback and posts. =("
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On non-arrive, the packages probably didn't make it out of Holland. I can't prove that but it started to get very difficult for dutch vendors there to get stuff to any country but nobody got love letters either. That is why dutch vendors started to ship from elsewhere.
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slirp,
I know it's hard to prove but it would be possible to spot a pattern with undeliverable packages for certain countries. As for me, I would like to know if there truly is a pattern for packages coming out of Holland which are headed to the US. Like I mentioned above, the reviews are helpful but they do not provide any clue as to which country the package was headed to. It would be extremely helpful for customers to know whether or not packages from a certain vendor would actually make it to their mailbox.
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I ordered right around that time, from the US, no package yet. I asked for an extension. Should be here by now.
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I ordered right around that time, from the US, no package yet. I asked for an extension. Should be here by now.
So did I. According to their vendor page update, they are making everyone finalize early now because of scammers. What I wanted to do was look up their refund policy but that seems to be gone. How many days did you ask for for the extension? I remember seeing that packages are considered lost after 30 days. Don't quote me on that though.
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ordered several days pre 2/23 and package still hasn't arrived to the US. i resolved with an extension too because one reviewer said 20 days before he/she got the package. hoping it will come through but i received delivery from germany this week even though it was ordered a week after my chemicalsisters order
one thing i like to note: i ordered from them when they were insisting on privnote rather than pgp so my information was in a privnote. has other people been using pgp?
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bumping since i know other people are asking about chemicalsisters
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ordered several days pre 2/23 and package still hasn't arrived to the US. i resolved with an extension too because one reviewer said 20 days before he/she got the package. hoping it will come through but i received delivery from germany this week even though it was ordered a week after my chemicalsisters order
one thing i like to note: i ordered from them when they were insisting on privnote rather than pgp so my information was in a privnote. has other people been using pgp?
I didn't realize they wanted people to use privnote. I just ordered a 10 pack from ItalianMafiaBrussels and they suggest using privnote also. I don't feel too comfortable using that so I ended up doing PGP for both orders.
I offered up a resolution a day ago and they still haven't accepted it. Have they accepted your resolution offer mschen? Scammers must be really taking advantage of the system and screwing the chemicalsisters if all those no show packages supposedly didn't show up. However, I hope they can tell the scammers apart from the legit customers like myself. I have over 15 orders placed, no refund rate, and no auto finalization. I just really hope my 20 pack comes through because I'm starting to get dry.
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I didn't realize they wanted people to use privnote. I just ordered a 10 pack from ItalianMafiaBrussels and they suggest using privnote also. I don't feel too comfortable using that so I ended up doing PGP for both orders.
I offered up a resolution a day ago and they still haven't accepted it. Have they accepted your resolution offer mschen? Scammers must be really taking advantage of the system and screwing the chemicalsisters if all those no show packages supposedly didn't show up. However, I hope they can tell the scammers apart from the legit customers like myself. I have over 15 orders placed, no refund rate, and no auto finalization. I just really hope my 20 pack comes through because I'm starting to get dry.
yes, they accepted my resolution 2-3 days after
i'm hoping this shows up as well or else this will be my first package to not show up
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I gave up hope on them. I ordered around that time package still hasn't arrived. All I got was a message saying they THINK It will be here by friday and U.S. packages usually take 10-18 days...
fucked up part was I ordered from them 5 days after my first order and I got a gut feeling I aint gettin either 1 of em.... To be honest I'm amazed at all the 5/5 that they have, at this point they're borderline rogue IMO
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This is interesting, I was just about to place an order due to the great price... I guess I'll bite anyways.
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I am new and not entirely in position to bad talk someone but heres my story.
I also ordered a package frm ChemSisters after researching quite some time and they seemed to have great feedback and great prices and a supposed great product they stated.
I am in the new and 10 days in from it being "shipped" and still no package.
Ever since about 4 or 5 days after ordering there has been an alarming amount of feedback saying that packages are not arriving, to the point that I have never seen such an explosion of non arrival feedback on any other vendors page.
This could be something to do with customs like people are saying, but is it possible that there is something "not so well" occuring with chemical sisters' shipements being "shipped"?
I am personally still tryin to stay hopeful and plan on sending them a message tomorrow if it doesn't come in and contacting SR on the 14th day.
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It's been a couple days since I've offered them a resolution of extending the finalization date but they haven't accepted it yet. Nor have they responded to any of my messages. I'm assuming they are being bombarded with messages at the moment. However, if I don't hear from them some time soon, I'm going to have to change that offer and ask for a refund. I'm just going to cut my losses and accept a refund. This might be the last purchase I make from The Netherlands. I'm 0 for 2 for orders being shipped from there. I'm not going to make it 0 for 3.
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Hi guys,
At the beginning of March I placed two orders with them:
1x2.5g Power Plant
1x1g MDMA
They/She sent me a message saying thanks etc and told me they would be shipped seperarely because they are stored in different warehouses, perfectly fine for me.
So, I ordered on a Thursday, the Power Plant arrived Monday morning, but the MDMA never showed up at first.. so I left it until a few days before Auto-Finalize so we entered resolution and I extended it by 7 days, nothing showed, so I was offered a re-ship so I took it -- 3 days later the Molly arrived... the stealth was great, the only thing I was worried about was my address had been handwritten and a few parts were poorly spelled but it arrived so Im not complaining.
Ps, Im in the UK, just letting people know my experience with CS.
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Looks like I am not the only one waiting for a order. Its been over 22 days and I am in the US. I don't think it is coming in. CS has not msg me back and I hope to get my money back.
It fucked up that vendors act like they don't know ppl are going to be emailing them about product. For now on If any vendors sells me something everything better be perfect
NO MORE EASY 5 OF 5 FROM ME.
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Just checked on my package, 11 days since shipped and nothing.
I know the time since I ordered isnt as long as many others on here but something seems fishy here.
Has anyone at all got their package in the US?
Seems like some sort of selective scamming even with very few getting packages outside US.
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I wonder if their packaging has been identified by customs and compromised. 15 days and still no package and they still haven't accepted or offered a resolution. I was willing to extend the finalization date but since they aren't even communicating with me I put up a resolution for 75%. I have a feeling SR will have to step in on this because of chemicalsisters' lack of communication.
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I was hopeful for this seller, the last two vendors I ordered Mdma never pulled through. I have 3 days left til auto finalize but after losing out last time with nothing to show, I have no problem resolving the order this time. I sent CS a quick message stating this, but have yet to hear back. If this doesn't pull through next time I'll quit trying to be cheap, and order from a legit vendor. Even though CS has been here for 6 months or so, it's not long enough.
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I was hopeful for this seller, the last two vendors I ordered Mdma never pulled through. I have 3 days left til auto finalize but after losing out last time with nothing to show, I have no problem resolving the order this time. I sent CS a quick message stating this, but have yet to hear back. If this doesn't pull through next time I'll quit trying to be cheap, and order from a legit vendor. Even though CS has been here for 6 months or so, it's not long enough.
You should always hit the resolve button if the product doesn't show up. It isn't something offensive to the vendor. It avoids auto-finalization. etc.
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I was hopeful for this seller, the last two vendors I ordered Mdma never pulled through. I have 3 days left til auto finalize but after losing out last time with nothing to show, I have no problem resolving the order this time. I sent CS a quick message stating this, but have yet to hear back. If this doesn't pull through next time I'll quit trying to be cheap, and order from a legit vendor. Even though CS has been here for 6 months or so, it's not long enough.
You should always hit the resolve button if the product doesn't show up. It isn't something offensive to the vendor. It avoids auto-finalization. etc.
Yes, always hit the resolve button.
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I hit the resolve button but they have yet to message back or respond to my resolution. Auto finalize Is tommorow, what's gonna happen? Will auto finalize still go on my record? Will I still lose my money? :(
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I'm new and my first order was for 10gm MDMA to the US. I finalized early per instructions. They have not responded to any of my messages. Only message was from them telling me that my order had been accepted and was waiting finalization. It's only been 5 days since my order, but they have not communicated very well. I will update you guys if and when I get my package.
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I hit the resolve button but they have yet to message back or respond to my resolution. Auto finalize Is tommorow, what's gonna happen? Will auto finalize still go on my record? Will I still lose my money? :(
If you hit resolve, then the number of days left you see is the number of days until SR support steps in. They will eventually decide the case if you and chemsisters don't come to an agreement. I know it will adversely effect your refund rate though. I don't think it does anything to your autofinalization rate (don't quote me on that). The more of a refund you get the more damage you take to your refund rate. Then again, you can always bring it back up to good standings by continuing to make successful purchases. See, if you can get a refund and hope that the price of bitcoins keep rising so you can make up for what you lost.
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I'm new and my first order was for 10gm MDMA to the US. I finalized early per instructions. They have not responded to any of my messages. Only message was from them telling me that my order had been accepted and was waiting finalization. It's only been 5 days since my order, but they have not communicated very well. I will update you guys if and when I get my package.
Just remember that if you hit that FE button you might lose it all. You should really take to consideration what you are reading here. Ultimately, it's up to you. I hope it works out for you.
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Do the people who resolve these issues on the actual SR page read these forums?
Theres tons of posts currently Chemical sisters that seem to be appearing rapidly pointing towards foul play.
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Do the people who resolve these issues on the actual SR page read these forums?
Theres tons of posts currently Chemical sisters that seem to be appearing rapidly pointing towards foul play.
Don't count on it. Make your case in the resolution center. Post up quotes from the forum with URLs so that they can verify your quotes.
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I hit the resolve button but they have yet to message back or respond to my resolution. Auto finalize Is tommorow, what's gonna happen? Will auto finalize still go on my record? Will I still lose my money? :(
My order will AF tomorrow as well, tho I did get a message from CS today, saying my package should be here within today (it wasn't) to 3 days. I sent a reply saying I would resolve in the morning if they couldn't lengthen the AF time, I wasn't sure if a seller could. So,when I wake up if everything's the same that's what I'm going to do. I hope CS pulls through for everyone here. Did anyone else get a message today as well?
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I hit the resolve button but they have yet to message back or respond to my resolution. Auto finalize Is tommorow, what's gonna happen? Will auto finalize still go on my record? Will I still lose my money? :(
My order will AF tomorrow as well, tho I did get a message from CS today, saying my package should be here within today (it wasn't) to 3 days. I sent a reply saying I would resolve in the morning if they couldn't lengthen the AF time, I wasn't sure if a seller could. So,when I wake up if everything's the same that's what I'm going to do. I hope CS pulls through for everyone here. Did anyone else get a message today as well?
They actually sent me a message in resolutions. It seems like most of us got a message from them today. It sounded extremely generic where they would shotgun it across all their customers. It didn't seem like they actually read any of my messages. They offered up a refund of 30% but I didn't bite on it. If they really are trying to bust a scam I would like a whole lot more than that. At the end of the day, it's going to be up to SR admins to make one for us.
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No reason to delay on hitting that 'resolve' button. you can always finalize after hitting that button. No sense to waiting to the last minute when maybe you can't get onto SR for whatever reason.
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Yea I resolved, first time doing so, so I didn't know I could lengthen the AF time myself. I requested a full refund, but it just added 5 days to my order, which is fine I guess if it shows. I was kinda hoping for the full refund seeing how I placed my order when the market was $90 per btc, and I could get a lil back, but whatever :P
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how have people been dealing with the resolutions? they're also offering me 30% which doesn't really seem ok to me. they're also offering a reship with no refund option but with the delivery fail rate, i'm not sure if that'll come through?
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I ordered a few days ago. I didn't see these threads I instead created a thread asking who was a good mdma vendor and chemicalsisters name was among the few good names brought up. So I went ahead and FE'd. If I lose it, it's only $100, kinda sucks but not really a big deal. I feel like if they were scamming people by not sending packages they wouldn't have pulled all listings for a week to wait out the BTC fluxuations. They would just keep banging out orders since it would be all profit anyway. And why would they want to wait a week for everyone to realize they've been scammed. Doesn't make sense. Maybe I'm wrong but I hope I'm not. Anyway, I'm in the same boat as everyone else. I've been on SR for 5 months and never had a problem with any orders. I've even gotten 200gs of hash sent from yes, you guessed it, the netherlands. I messaged CS like a week before ordering asking their success rate to USA. They replied saying 90% but they started using mylar bags and since using them the success rate has been 100%. And for everyone else normally 30%refund would be fine. But in this case because there are SO many who didn't get packages that means it's the sellers fault for not packaging correctly. If it were one or two thats just bad luck. A whole bunch of them, that is someone's fault. I hope everything works out though and 2 weeks from now I have a smile on my face. :)
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I Recieved my 10gm MDMA order today. 8 Days to US! I will definately be buying more ASAP. Their communication was poor, but I know it's because they have alot of messages to respond too. Product is amazing!! Prices are great!! First time buyer and they took care of me. About 7 gram rocks and 3 gram powder. I have no complaints.
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Thursday will mark three weeks in transit for my order. I have only a handful of orders and one order from outside the US, which came from Canada. It took about three weeks for me to get my Canadian order, so I am still hopeful for this one. I've yet to encounter a problem receiving an order but we shall see.
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I have only 1 day until my resolution ends,and no package in hand. What happens after the resolution ends, does it finalize? Will the SR admin step in? I asked for a full refund, but she hasn't replied since I submitted the resolution, and I'm getting anxious again. I'd rather be done with CS, and take my btc somewhere else. I doubt a reshipment would make it. Should I contact SR admins? Thanks
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I also put in a 100% refund request recently. I have no belief there was even an item shipped and seeing as how they aren't even reading messages or resolutions I have everyone reason to feel there is something fishy occuring justifying a full refund.
Ive never had to use the resolution center before so guess we'll see what happens when the time runs out, sadly this dam vendor is going to screw up alot of our buyer stats.
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From what I gather, they sent out a bunch of US orders that didn't make it and they're now doing damage control with paltry 30% reship or 100% resend offers.
I proposed an 18 day extension for a reship with tracking. I would not accept a reship without tracking, because I have no reason to believe the second shipment will make it.
What did Chemicalsisters do? They accepted the 18 day reship, did not write any text in acceptance, and did not provide a tracking number. As far as I'm concerned, THAT IS A SCAM. They accepted the extension but did not provide tracking, as requested.
I would not recommend ordering from CS.
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I also got a 30% refund offer or reship, and also sent a message saying I would only accept if they provided a tracking number. I have 2 hours left until AF in the resolution center. I had never had to resolve before, so I'm surprised that we cannot get a 100% refund and that the seller still has all the control. I always thought the resolve button gave Us the buyers the ability to cancel and SR would refund our originial paid Btc in full as they held it in escrow. I guess this isn't the case which is pretty pissy. I'm going to send the admins an email and see what they have to say. I want a full refund, but with 2 hours to deal doesn't give me budging room. >:(
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Also, no where on CS page do they state a 30% refund would be the norm for reimbursement. 50% is usually the standard from what I recall seeing around
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I took there fuckin 30% refund and (with the recent bc crash) received a total of $12.67....
I have a second order with them, where I just had to contact SR because they offered another 30% refund/reship.
Both orders were 5gs
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^Wow that's some real BS... I only have 15 mins left to resolve so I guess I'll just take the reshipment over a laughable $12.50.. Sorry for your loss. I refuse to order Mdma without pre-handedly being told they will have tracking.
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Aaaand I accidentally hit the 'Accept' button, so I got that damn 30% Laugh out fucking loud. Ha. >:(
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I Recieved my 10gm MDMA order today. 8 Days to US! I will definately be buying more ASAP. Their communication was poor, but I know it's because they have alot of messages to respond too. Product is amazing!! Prices are great!! First time buyer and they took care of me. About 7 gram rocks and 3 gram powder. I have no complaints.
glad you got your order. you're one of the lucky ones i guess
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I also got a 30% refund offer or reship, and also sent a message saying I would only accept if they provided a tracking number. I have 2 hours left until AF in the resolution center. I had never had to resolve before, so I'm surprised that we cannot get a 100% refund and that the seller still has all the control. I always thought the resolve button gave Us the buyers the ability to cancel and SR would refund our originial paid Btc in full as they held it in escrow. I guess this isn't the case which is pretty pissy. I'm going to send the admins an email and see what they have to say. I want a full refund, but with 2 hours to deal doesn't give me budging room. >:(
not sure what you're talking about because when you resolve you can choose the % refund. I asked for 100% and after several days of no response from chemicalsisters, SR gave me my 100%
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I put in 100% but they replied offering only 30%, and SR admins have yet to respond to my support ticket. Idk if it would have automatically accepted the 30% if i hadn't accidentally accepted, but its too late now.
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To let those of you know that don't know, AF doesn't happen once you hit "resolve." If the time runs out then it waits for an SR admin to step in and make a decision whether to grant a % refund or extend the time.
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Still no response. I requested a 2 week extension if they'd reship with tracking. They accepeted the extension but provided no tracking, asked for no address, didn't respond in any way. Totally unacceptable. Do not order from CS.
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To let those of you know that don't know, AF doesn't happen once you hit "resolve." If the time runs out then it waits for an SR admin to step in and make a decision whether to grant a % refund or extend the time.
good to know. i thought the system just defaults to whatever the last resolution was by the person who submitted the resolution. since if you don't check a resolution for 5 days, that's your own fault. didn't know there was a higher power working behind it
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You new customers are learning a valuable lesson here: do NOT order from the Netherlands under any circumstances. There is absolutely no reason to order from such a red-flag country. Customs agents salivate over Netherlands packages. Also it is far away, which means you will grow paranoid as the days without it arriving go up and up. If you are in the USA, stick with Canada and USA shipping. Will the prices be a bit higher? Sure, but it is your security and your money at stake. Don't be stupid. For example, LuckyLucianno is a bulk MDMA vendor from Canada and he has very fair prices. $900 for an oz. You're crazy if you don't like that deal. $1,400 for 50g. And I'm not saying you have to go to LuckyLucianno. But you should definitely go somewhere nearby, even if the cost is somewhat higher.
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My first encounter with the resolution center and I must say I am pleased.
I received a 100% refund on my item.
I stated my case showing that none of my messages were being replyed or even read. I also linked multiple threads on the forums regarding issues with ChemicalSisters.
As I expected CS never even seemed to look/reply to the resolutions and I was awarded my requested refund.
Hope people read these forums and save them self the hassles and possible losses involved when using this vendor.
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You new customers are learning a valuable lesson here: do NOT order from the Netherlands under any circumstances. There is absolutely no reason to order from such a red-flag country. Customs agents salivate over Netherlands packages. Also it is far away, which means you will grow paranoid as the days without it arriving go up and up. If you are in the USA, stick with Canada and USA shipping. Will the prices be a bit higher? Sure, but it is your security and your money at stake. Don't be stupid. For example, LuckyLucianno is a bulk MDMA vendor from Canada and he has very fair prices. $900 for an oz. You're crazy if you don't like that deal. $1,400 for 50g. And I'm not saying you have to go to LuckyLucianno. But you should definitely go somewhere nearby, even if the cost is somewhat higher.
that's good advice. i've personally ordered from uk, germany, and another european country (forgot which one exactly) and had no problems. my one and only time i ordered from netherlands was a no show =(
out of curiosity, is netherland to netherland shipping usually reliable? or netherland to rest of eu?
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Bumping this so others don't fall for their shoddy customer service, borderline scam. Again, they accepted my 3 week extension, which requested they reship with tracking. They accepted the extension, but didn't even reply, didn't reship, did not provide tracking. They're holding my coins hostage.
I sent them a message about it last week. No response, AND they haven't even read it yet.
Chemicalsisters are scammers and you should not buy from them.
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Sent a message to them about 7 days ago. It hasn't been read and they haven't logged into account in like 5 days. Not looking good.
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Thanks for all the input, guys. All the information you guys have posted will be helpful for future customers.
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It would seem more and more each day like I have been scammed out of $100. Not really too upset it was my own ignorance's fault for finalizing early. Now I've learned no matter how good a vendors stats and reviews are anyone of them can go rogue. What I'm more concerned with at the moment is whether or not the other people who didn't get their packages got them intercepted by customs or if CS just didn't send it. It looks like the second in most cases. And at this point I'd rather just have them not send it than to have it get intercepted by customs. That would ruin my day alot more than $100.
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Just wanted to see if ChemicalSisters were still doing business on SR. NOPE! They haven't logged on ever since I called them out on their scam. 22 days and counting. Good riddance. I'm quite surprised this hasn't blown up any bigger.
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Just wanted to see if ChemicalSisters were still doing business on SR. NOPE! They haven't logged on ever since I called them out on their scam. 22 days and counting. Good riddance. I'm quite surprised this hasn't blown up any bigger.
yeah agreed. i think the earlier people got out OK because they stayed in escrow and got silk road resolution. those who FE'd or opted for a reship got screwed :(
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Just wanted everyone to know those dirtbags logged in today.