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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: Revolutionista on January 24, 2013, 01:02 am

Title: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: Revolutionista on January 24, 2013, 01:02 am
In my local city 2 guys died a few days ago from taking adulterated ecstasy tablets (pma apparently). As expected the typically think inside the box media spent all the airtime reminding people how dangerous taking drugs are and predictably did their bit to try and scare people away instead of pointing out if theyd been supplied with good product none of this would have happened.
This was more of a rant combined with trying to get to 50 without taking the piss but the idea the government doesnt make any effort to save the lives of drug users never mind the logic of not decriminalising just really twists my melon.
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: awhiteknight on January 24, 2013, 01:29 am
What sort of pricks press PMA into pills? I hope someone finds them and strings them up.
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: TinyDot on January 24, 2013, 01:33 am
Just another reason why adulterated shit= bad shit.  The consequences are more unpredictable than using what you "expect" to be using and if it turns into a scenario where you end up in the ER usually the dr's are just going to treat you for what they CAN find in your system.  So yea..fuck that
TinyDot
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: Inspectah Deck on January 24, 2013, 01:44 am
thats bogus
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: suavee on January 24, 2013, 03:28 am
Only thing about pills in general you never know what you are going to get even the legit vendors on here run into a fraud batch
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: Revolutionista on January 24, 2013, 11:08 am
Not being a chemist I dont know wether pma is a deliberate addition or wether its a byproduct of making mdma when you dont know what your doing. Id prefer the 1st. Dont like to think that even my favourite vendors on sr might inadvertently send out pma in their pills. Plus the contaminant being pma is being investigated as we speak by authorities but im guessing somone has already tested it using a home kit because it 'seems' to be common knowledge
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: trippylizard on January 24, 2013, 11:24 am
Most of the 'danger' of drugs like MDMA comes from their legal status, which means dodgy suppliers, unknown dosages, and damaging adulterants. Exactly how an argument for keeping alcohol banned during prohibition was the 'dangers' of methanol-adulterated supplies turning you blind, as if that's somehow proof of the danger of alcohol itself. Some day, I hope that all drugs will be legalised - not just decriminalized... unless they can be manufactured and sold legally on an industrial scale, the dangers of contamination are still there. It really does sadden me that politicians these days, that obviously experimented with cannabis in their youth, and know full well how harmless some drugs are (and are smart people, so must at an intellectual level be able to appreciate the benefits in harm-reduction that would come from legalisation), still support the obviously broken status-quo. In thrall to the tabloid newspapers, afraid of losing votes, outright admitting that they follow (misinformed) popular opinion rather than evidence-based science... sigh. No wonder David Nutt resigned.
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: National Direct on January 24, 2013, 12:05 pm
The pills definitely didn't come from my lab!
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: Revolutionista on January 24, 2013, 12:23 pm
So does anyone know about the synthesis of mdma? Is the pma an unexpected reaction/lack of reaction on the way to making mdma or has someone specifically set out to make the stuff? Not gona lie ive had thoughts of doing one huge cook with the help of a paid degree educated chemist to set me for life but if im relying on  someone else knowing what their doing and I dont know what im doing maybe thats a bit reckless? I suppose you can always use several of the freely available testing kits after its made but id still like to know if the supplier is incompetent or if he had an agenda
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: Isobetadine on January 24, 2013, 12:26 pm
Most of the 'danger' of drugs like MDMA comes from their legal status, which means dodgy suppliers, unknown dosages, and damaging adulterants. Exactly how an argument for keeping alcohol banned during prohibition was the 'dangers' of methanol-adulterated supplies turning you blind, as if that's somehow proof of the danger of alcohol itself. Some day, I hope that all drugs will be legalised - not just decriminalized... unless they can be manufactured and sold legally on an industrial scale, the dangers of contamination are still there. It really does sadden me that politicians these days, that obviously experimented with cannabis in their youth, and know full well how harmless some drugs are (and are smart people, so must at an intellectual level be able to appreciate the benefits in harm-reduction that would come from legalisation), still support the obviously broken status-quo. In thrall to the tabloid newspapers, afraid of losing votes, outright admitting that they follow (misinformed) popular opinion rather than evidence-based science... sigh. No wonder David Nutt resigned.

Politicians have to manage to make their agenda pass and also getting re-elected.So it's not only the politicians that have blame.The masses,people in general need to be educated so it finally becomes more accepted.But hey,most of the time it is easier for politicians to use the drugs on war as a diversion from the real problems.Same as they do with focussing on petty crimes that will annoy and distract the masses in their day to day lives so they don't see how they are being robbed blind by the global economic system.

@Revolutionista if you ever do find recipes ,be sure to hit me up :)
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: Revolutionista on January 24, 2013, 12:26 pm
The pills definitely didn't come from my lab!

So you cook and or press?
Obviously feel free NOT to answer that question ;)
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: Revolutionista on January 24, 2013, 12:40 pm
Most of the 'danger' of drugs like MDMA comes from their legal status, which means dodgy suppliers, unknown dosages, and damaging adulterants. Exactly how an argument for keeping alcohol banned during prohibition was the 'dangers' of methanol-adulterated supplies turning you blind, as if that's somehow proof of the danger of alcohol itself. Some day, I hope that all drugs will be legalised - not just decriminalized... unless they can be manufactured and sold legally on an industrial scale, the dangers of contamination are still there. It really does sadden me that politicians these days, that obviously experimented with cannabis in their youth, and know full well how harmless some drugs are (and are smart people, so must at an intellectual level be able to appreciate the benefits in harm-reduction that would come from legalisation), still support the obviously broken status-quo. In thrall to the tabloid newspapers, afraid of losing votes, outright admitting that they follow (misinformed) popular opinion rather than evidence-based science... sigh. No wonder David Nutt resigned.

Politicians have to manage to make their agenda pass and also getting re-elected.So it's not only the politicians that have blame.The masses,people in general need to be educated so it finally becomes more accepted.But hey,most of the time it is easier for politicians to use the drugs on war as a diversion from the real problems.Same as they do with focussing on petty crimes that will annoy and distract the masses in their day to day lives so they don't see how they are being robbed blind by the global economic system.

@Revolutionista if you ever do find recipes ,be sure to hit me up :)

Couldnt agree more. Its funny how 'misuse of drugs' use goes hand in hand with political dissatisfaction.
As for the recipes iv seen them before and im pretty sure you can buy a guide on sr for very cheap but even with a significant understanding of basic chemistry it wasnt something I could do myself. The plan is to psych some broke ass university leaver into a one off 'job' after I spend a couple of years safely accumulating the necessary chemicals in the correct ratios.
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: rahRAH on January 24, 2013, 12:52 pm
thats sad
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: Sukey on January 24, 2013, 01:02 pm
So does anyone know about the synthesis of mdma? Is the pma an unexpected reaction/lack of reaction on the way to making mdma or has someone specifically set out to make the stuff? Not gona lie ive had thoughts of doing one huge cook with the help of a paid degree educated chemist to set me for life but if im relying on  someone else knowing what their doing and I dont know what im doing maybe thats a bit reckless? I suppose you can always use several of the freely available testing kits after its made but id still like to know if the supplier is incompetent or if he had an agenda

Don't quote me on this, but it shouldn't be an unexpected reaction/lack of reaction. According to the almighty wikipedia, it's synthesized from Anethole rather than Safrole.
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: Revolutionista on January 24, 2013, 01:09 pm
So does anyone know about the synthesis of mdma? Is the pma an unexpected reaction/lack of reaction on the way to making mdma or has someone specifically set out to make the stuff? Not gona lie ive had thoughts of doing one huge cook with the help of a paid degree educated chemist to set me for life but if im relying on  someone else knowing what their doing and I dont know what im doing maybe thats a bit reckless? I suppose you can always use several of the freely available testing kits after its made but id still like to know if the supplier is incompetent or if he had an agenda

Don't quote me on this, but it shouldn't be an unexpected reaction/lack of reaction. According to the almighty wikipedia, it's synthesized from Anethole rather than Safrole.

Complicated shit. I should really spend a day reading up on it.
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: National Direct on January 24, 2013, 07:03 pm
To put it simply, PMA adulterated pills don't hit the market accidently. Somewhere in the chain, an asshole threw it in the mix for monetary gains/higher profit margins, or self-fulfilling sociopathic reasons. Thank this community for its bountiful supply of quality substances, and honest reviews from users. If you ask me, if SR ever shut down, those responsible for it's downfall deserve death. There would be a tragic surge in people looking for street drugs and getting garbage from unethical, poor, lazy-ass motherfuckers.
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: example76 on February 05, 2013, 12:12 am
People should get harsher jail terms for selling stupid cut shit than the real thing - that really fucking infuriates me!
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: GreenAlfalfaBoxes on February 05, 2013, 12:18 am
Buy a test kit people who you buy from untrusted or unvetted sources.
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: phoboss on February 05, 2013, 12:27 am
Its totally F, up to hear something like this but it happens to tell you the honest truth I don't think you should've wrote that ona site like this as they died from street vendors drugs not an SR vendors so I reckon the OP should take this down cos it'll only frighten people ok well it frightened me into reading it so WTF man there you have it nothing to do with this site take it down please cheers
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: patashnik on February 05, 2013, 12:31 am
What sort of pricks press PMA into pills? I hope someone finds them and strings them up.
I wondered this once. In my teens I got to know a girl who didn't like me taking E, because she knew two guys who died because their pills were spiked with rat poison (!) She seemed serious but it makes no sense. Surely the second rule of dealing drugs (after "don't get caught") is "make sure your customers come back". If you kill your customers, they don't buy more. The guy pressing them couldn't have been so goddamn stupid to cut them with rat poison, surely? You don't need to be a chemist to know that crap is bad for humans.
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: yello53 on February 05, 2013, 12:34 am
That's depressing. Yet more bodies added to the pile thanks to the war on drugs. Legalize, regulate, save lives.
Title: Re: 2 men die from adulterated pills
Post by: DrChong on February 05, 2013, 12:39 am
PEOPLE: this is why you don't buy random pills from random dealers. Test your shit yourself. Not that hard.