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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: cygnus on March 20, 2012, 12:01 am

Title: #3 vs #4 Heroin
Post by: cygnus on March 20, 2012, 12:01 am
What is the difference between #3 and #4? I know that some forms don't just break down in water, you need citric acid or something like that, so I was wondering which one is which? I'm used to ok black tar from the street, i don't know that much about good powder, thanks for the help

cygnus
Title: Re: #3 vs #4 Heroin
Post by: Tynkk on March 20, 2012, 12:15 am
#3 needs citric acid to dissolve for IV, but it a lot more readily smoke-able than #4
#4 dissolves in water, but is generally not used for smoking.
Title: Re: #3 vs #4 Heroin
Post by: cygnus on March 20, 2012, 12:26 am
thanks man, thats the answer i was looking for. #4 it is :P i've never really enjoyed smoking h, i shot more often with the tar i got because it saved what i could afford for longer. i find it easier to just work with something that will dissolve in water for iv purposes.

Another question, for the tar i had i would need to cook out the shit cut that was there, but how much cooking is needed for #4?
Title: Re: #3 vs #4 Heroin
Post by: Tynkk on March 20, 2012, 01:46 am
Honestly? I haven't shot a whole lot of either.  It should dissolve in cold water, but I've heard conflicting stories on whether or not to cook it.  Sorry  ???
Title: Re: #3 vs #4 Heroin
Post by: cygnus on March 20, 2012, 01:54 am
thanks man. i'll proabably sterilize water, or get bacteriostatic solution to mix it with, then let it cool to see how well it will dissolve before i shoot. my tolerance is gone though, so i'm going to have to take it pretty slow starting off. i had a high natural tolerance with tar, but i'm pretty sure this is on a whole other level.

compared to the shit i used to shoot, i'm shouldn't be that worried about cooking as long as i'm dissolving into a sterile substance. i just got curious haha
Title: Re: #3 vs #4 Heroin
Post by: PBucket on March 20, 2012, 01:55 am
When you Iv #4 all you need is a little heat until the powder dissolves. Like 3-5sec max under the spoon.

Totally different than tar since you need to cook the shit out of it like you said.

Do you IV tar more than powder? Cause Tar imo has a stronger nod and has just as long legs as bomb powder

Also all you need is distilled water.
Title: Re: #3 vs #4 Heroin
Post by: cygnus on March 20, 2012, 02:03 am
my experience with iv is all tar, i wanted to try some higher quality h from SR as the tar was usually cut to shit with god knows what. I loved the nod from tar just for sitting in an apartment all day, i really just want the bliss from it again, i miss my body feeling so relaxed, warm and itchy :P.

I'll definitely use some distilled water, i used to just use tap water that i boiled which i know is not the best idea.

what would somebody recommend filter-wise? i used to just tear the tip off of a q-tip and ball it up, suck the mix through that, but i know some people aren't fans of using cotton

thanks for the tip on the cooking, that sounds like a good plan
Title: Re: #3 vs #4 Heroin
Post by: PBucket on March 20, 2012, 02:54 am
I do the same for the cotton  8)

Cotton is fine when IVing powder. Especially High Quality Powder haha. You should order tony's pebbles or his regular H. Or wumg's H. Both are AMAZING. I tired tony's pebbles and that shit is #1 haha. I'm getting a sample of wumg's very very soon since it's going to be 7 business days tomorrow and he's only from canada.

Title: Re: #3 vs #4 Heroin
Post by: cygnus on March 20, 2012, 03:31 am
hell yeah, i'm glad you use cotton too, i just heard some people saying shit about cotton fever. but i'm pretty sure they just use way too much cotton, you really only need enough to surround the needle with.

you got any xperience with noriega? his prices are ridiculously low, i want to make sure its good shit, even though i've seen rave reviews on it.


on another tangent, i just did some blow from tony76, after the only shit i ever did was cut to hell, we suspected a meth cut for a while, it was from sketch gangsters in my region. but this high quality stuff is like a whole other ball game, i'm in the middle of the biggest coke rush of my life, my hands are tingling alottttttt, my legs are jttery, but my heart isn't going as fast as it has on add.adhd meds, i fucked myself up on those once, had a resting HR of 120-130 for 48 hours, had chest pains for 2 months, might have been a minor amphetamine OD.

but anyway, i'm feeling like i'm fighting through a coke dose, i did .13, way too much of good shit when i've never known what good shit is, thanks for listening you guys, i needed to vent
Title: Re: #3 vs #4 Heroin
Post by: PBucket on March 20, 2012, 03:42 am
Since NOr is in the netherlands, I don't order since I'm in the USA. I would really need alot of spare money to try him out haha.

But Tony's coke is bomb fosho. I was in the same position as you a couple years ago. Gangers cutting coke with ice and advil.

Anything from tony is bomb, which is why i say order H from him. If you have the spare money you should try his pebbles. SUPER FIRE.

Title: Re: #3 vs #4 Heroin
Post by: cygnus on March 20, 2012, 03:59 am
are the pebbles the #4?

i've got a shipment coming from SKYY of 2gs mdma from the NL so i'm gonna see how that one goes before i order again from there. i've had success from germany with juergen, his lsd is the shit.

i'm just trying to work my way to 10 transactions so i don't have to finalize early as much :P

luckily i came down from that coke for the most part. sucks i can't smoke cigs in my current environment, i used to devour cigs while coked out, but my all time favorite cigs was that one when you're just b4 nodding on h.

tony is one of my new favs though.
Title: Re: #3 vs #4 Heroin
Post by: PBucket on March 20, 2012, 04:05 am
Haha, Yeah that cig is pretty damn amazing. Especially after shooting up :)

I don't smoke cig's really anymore but I feel like a pack wouldn't hurt.

But tony is awesome. He's my #1 vendor I go to. If he had 3 gram deals though for his H, I would buy even more hhah.

ALl powder pretty much is #4 is the US. In the EU and UK it's #3.

Title: Re: #3 vs #4 Heroin
Post by: cygnus on March 20, 2012, 04:09 am
thanks for the info man, you've been really helpful. once i figure out karma i'll send you some.

that warmth up the back of your neck after a shot is pretty fucking nice too ;)

i'm definitely hitting up tony sometime in the future.
Title: Re: #3 vs #4 Heroin
Post by: ohno88 on March 21, 2012, 06:58 am
Hey There,
For the easiest and BEST (in my honest opinion) heroin which is meant primarily for snorting and IVing, go with #4.
This is the stuff you find on the East Coast of the USA, comes from Columbia, rather than the middle east.
You always just cold water shoot, NO NEED FOR HEAT what so ever. That is for the other types of heroin. Trust me, I have been doing #4 for many many years, as it is all thats avaialable where I'm from. Also, according to DEA statistics and other reports you can find by googling, #4 has the highest purity compared to the other numbers. I personally don't feel safe melting down any tar and putting it in my veins...I also don't feel comfotable adding any further chemicals myself over an open flame and THEN injecting it...I'd rather go with a pure form of heroin that is meant to be injected by simply adding water (warm, cold, doesn't matter).

That's my two cents and all based on my experience and thing's I've read :)
I haven't checked yet, but my personal favorite is the brown/tan #4 heroin you can find in NYC. IT comes in little wax paper bags folded up, and sometimes has a plastic seal around it (known as "double sealed"), which the dealer puts on his bags to avoid anyone pinching, cutting, or messing with his product after it leaves his hands. Remember, these bags are stamped with a name brand or logo, this helps create a reputation for the dealer.

So there you have it, East Coast USA (preferably New York City) no. 4 heroin....easiest and best to work with :P