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Title: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 05 March 2013, 03:56:09
SYNOPSIS OF VENDOR INFO ACCUMULATED SO FAR:

GOOD VENDORS
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rogerpete
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: moonflower, DMTisinME, sleepyg, princeblack49, Edawg420, kundalini, wavelength, 4thecause (ft)

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/050b98414e
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90952.0
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multi exciter
In Stock: No
Vouchers: incogmagnito, stryder71, BlackIris, liquidator

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/e3739ab6ff
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elvis
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: Lucius Luv, princeblack49, dondada, TRON

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/528b2805aa
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=128722.msg883575#msg883575
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dmtnexus
In Stock:Yes
Vouchers: incogmagnito, Japan1980, quken, liquidator

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/95b92f8df9
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=135770.msg922311#msg922311
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Asylum
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: brokentoes, RaFael5, atlas, Great Green Arkleseizure (?)

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/c454ea9fd9
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=28467.0
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DRshrooms
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: dirtybiscuitzz718, TRON, htimclock (ft)

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/6548abc4cc
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=31640.0
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chemdogsunrise
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: incogmagnito, BlackIris

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/32842c5427
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Ringo Deathstarr
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: skeezr95, wavelength, princeblack49

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/cdc40792f6
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Fractalbliss
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: openym421, musichighlife

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/c7be494993
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=143845.0
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omnis
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: wavelength, BlackIris

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d866b330e4
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=29147
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Shy Guy
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: princeblack49, JustThree

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/f1745898f0
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jesusofrave
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: JustThree, sometimesaware239 (ft)

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/53555a9222
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=46574.0
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Mahakala
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: samcrow, triptoheaven (ft)

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a558c7d69b
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=22976.0
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Rainbowbrite123
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: sleepyg

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/80ac6ef804
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bigblack
In Stock: No
Vouchers: wavelength

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/c8e925ee05
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Rainbow Snail
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: someoneelse87

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/43badb56eb
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=112055.msg833377#msg833377
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Tree of Liberty
In Stock: No
Vouchers: princeblack49

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/14cdcfb0ba
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NewTime
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: TRON

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/585e6b24ee
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=35162.0
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Vatican
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: anonpsyact

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/b6022bf906
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=129180.msg893915#msg893915
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uhrwerk
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: Pacman85

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/2a1fca953b
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AddyQueenHashKing
In Stock: Yes
Vouchers: kundalini (ft)

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/f013e7c206
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=115139.msg897762#msg897762
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UNCONFIRMED VENDORS:
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TheDutchGuy
In Stock: Yes

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/768da2d349
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=94003.msg713149#msg713149
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(ft) = first-timer vouching for the source of his/her first DMT
(?) = hasn't tried product personally
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BAD VENDORS:
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PPLLUURR
pimpit
EnterTheMatrix
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COMMON METHODS FOR VAPOURISING DMT:

Glass oil pipe:
Cheap and effective.  Available at most head shops for ~$10.  There is a small amount of technique involved as holding the lighter too close for too long may result in burning your product, and pulling too hard/early can result in sucking the crystal into your mouth and thus wasting it.  These things are not difficult to avoid doing.  This method has GGA's badge of approval for overall economy, simplicity, and ease of use.  I have personally never used anything else to smoke DMT and have broken through with a single hit from this pipe on the vast majority of my attempts.

GGA: I usually load 50--60mg of DMT and a similar amount of (50X enriched) salvia.  This is good for about 4 trips.  I use a tall-flamed lighter and keep the tip of the flame a just off (or just touching) the glass bulb.  I bring the pipe to my lips before sparking the lighter, but don't immediately inhale (I breathe through my nose to avoid accidentally sucking in raw spice).  It takes 6 or 7 seconds for the DMT to begin to vapourise, and I keep my breathing shallow while I wait.  When I see the first wisps of vapour rising, I exhale completely (through my nose).  When the bulb is fully clouded with vapour, I begin the inhale---a slow, gentle, deep breath which takes about 20 seconds to completely fill my lungs---taking the vapour straight down into my lungs.  About 2/3 of the way into this, I extinguish the lighter.  This way, the vapour stops coming just before I'm done inhaling, which means I don't risk scorching the spice or vape spice I have no lung capacity to inhale.  While holding in the hit, I put the pipe and lighter in a slipper I keep next to my bed so the hot pipe doesn't leave scorch marks on the carpet.  Then I lay back and continue holding the hit until it becomes uncomfortable to do so (usually after about 40 seconds).  There are about 15 seconds after finishing the hit to get situated and comfortable before the DMT hits in full force.  Inhaling slowly and killing the lighter at the right time are the only real 'tricks' to this method.

'The Machine':
A DIY project.  Also a cheap option---the actual cost is variable as it is built from items you may already have, but is minimal regardless.  Building one seems to require minimal effort (although a drill/rotary tool is required), and the design reduces risk of burning the DMT.  Operation my be more involved than with the simple glass pipe.  The Machine gets incogmagnito's seal of approval.
Links for building The Machine:
http://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/The_Machine
http://dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=25974

dmtnexus: Remove the screw cap if present. Point the neck of the pipe downwards and heat the DMT with a flame from below but don't let the flame actually touch the DMT. Inhale slowly from the other side, taking care not to inhale more than you can actually hold in. Hold it in for at least 15 seconds, exhale if you have to (preferably not) and take another hit. If you did it properly, only 2 hits are needed to 'break through'.  Inhaling more vapor than you can actually hold in is counterproductive as it makes you exhale too fast. Provided you didn't burn it, all the 'smoke' that goes up in the air is actually DMT. 15 seconds should be enough time for your lungs to absorb all the DMT (depends on the size of the hit, though), although some people prefer to take a second hit without exhaling the first one to be sure.

incogmagnito:
Building the Machine:
1. Get a glass minibar bottle of alcohol (note that many brands now sell these in plastic, so check ... I have oped for Jamieson)
2. make yourself a drink
3. screw back the cap and put the bottle into the unused flower pot filled with soil (wet it to make it more dense) - see
photos 1 - http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7et.jpg
and 2 - http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7e_.jpg
4. Drill using strengthened drill and quite a bit of pressure and ocasionally pour some water onto the bottle to avoid overheating and also prevent glass dust from flying all over - see
photo 3 - http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7ep.jpg
5. It might feel like you are not making a lot of progress for some time, but do persevere and you will get here -
photo 4 - http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7er.jpg
(please note that I did not have bigger drill, but I would drill a hole double this diameter if I could)
6. Wash your bottle and make sure that you take all the glass pieces from inside
7. Take your chore boy/scourer and burn it for a while on a stove to make sure that all lubricants and other junk burns off it. make it turn red all around to achieve this
photo 5 - http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7mo.jpg
and 6 - http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7mn.jpg
8. Cut a piece and shove it into the now open bottle
photo 7 - http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7ml.jpg
9. Push it in and note that the whole piece should be no more than an inch inside the bottle neck
photo 8 - http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7mx.jpg
10. Now flip the bottle upside-down and using your drill manually press your chore boy from inside the bottle to make it into a dense cork-like thing at the top of the bottle neck
photo 9 - http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7mv.jpg
11. turn the bottle around and push the pressed chore boy a little bit into the bottle neck to allow the cap to go back on
photo 10 - http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7mw.jpg

All done!

When it comes to smoking the way I do is as follows:
1. Put some spice on top of the chore boy
2. Use your torch lighter to warm up the spice so that it melts into the mesh (do not touch it with a flame)
3. Take comfirtable position, hold bottle's bottom to your mouth
4. Aim torch lighter at the bottle neck but not letting flame burn the mesh and spice
5. Inhale
6. Hold it for up to 10 seconds ... after 10 seconds seldomly did any vapour came out from my lungs
7. Repeat 4-6 until in hyperspace.

Glass Vapour Genie (Sherlock):
Much pricier at $109.   This is a glass pipe-style vape with a heat-distributing bowl, but no built-in heating element.  It is operated with a lighter.  Caution should be taken as apparently several screens must be used to prevent the melting DMT from slipping though the screen and crystalising in the neck of the pipe.  It is said to be easier to operate than The Machine.  DMTisinME and dondada both prefer the GVG over other methods.
Available here: http://www.vaporgenie.com/products/glass-vg-vapes/glass-sherlock-vg-details

The Volcano:
By far the spendiest option, weighing in at $539.  The volcano is a convection-style vapouriser which blows heated air over the product into a plastic bag.  It is worth noting that DMT has much less affinity for plastic than for glass.  According to Edawg420, once the vapour is trapped in the bag, there is no rush to inhale it immediately (whereas DMT would be actively crystalising on any glass vessel during a delay).  This method seems to allow for taking DMT in larger doses than any of the previous ones, and it is Edawg420's favourite.
Available here: http://www.volcanovaporizer.com/
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CLEARNET RESOURCES FOR DMT INFO:

www.mycotoptia.net
www.dmt-nexus.me
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 05 March 2013, 04:04:20
I'll start us off.

I've had a fair amount of experience (read: a few dozen trips) with DMT over the last 5 years.  I only smoked low grade DMT once ... mostly I was smoking some really good white crystal (I came to SR because I couldn't get that stuff anymore and missed it).

My first purchase on SR was DMT from pimpit (this product isn't currently listed ... but he says he'll re-list when he gets more), and I can vouch for his quality: it's very good.  This is my only DMT purchase on SR to date.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Shy Guyy on 05 March 2013, 04:08:05
it would require a group of extremely experienced individuals as far as self testing goes. problem is, most people don't have a very efficient way to dose DMT accurately as it is usually smoked and 50mg vaporized/inhaled correctly can send someone on quite a journey while that same 50mg burned up in a pipe might leave someone feeling "meh" at best. if there is a means to identifying percentage of purity i would be willing to submit samples.

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/f1745898f0
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 05 March 2013, 04:14:29
I personally have always used an oil pipe ... but it's now all frosted up with residue from some kickass DMT.  In order to get a really accurate sense of a products potency, I think trip testers would have to snort it.

Thanks for your offer, BTW.  We're not there yet though.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on 05 March 2013, 07:50:50
Snorting DMT isn't a very pleasant experience, at least it hasn't been for me. A general review thread about DMT is a good thing but I don't feel like it needs an avengers group like the LSD one. LSD is way more subject to scams because of all the RC's people lay on blotter and pass off as the real deal. Also I feel like breaking through on DMT has a lot of factors other than quality of product and route of ingestion.

If the idea does take off I'd be happy to contribute in whatever way I can. I have a lot of experience with DMT (hundreds of trips) and use a volcano vape these days which is pretty consistent for dosing.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 05 March 2013, 08:26:20
A volcano is a great idea, actually.  I don't like snorting things either.  The point is to be able to take a pre-measured amount at once without leaving any behind or contaminating it with traces of other chemicals (which could be done admirably with a volcano).

The group thing will take a while to materialise if at all, I'm sure.  It's true we don't have RCs to worry about. The realisation that made me think there ought to be a group for this is: a vendor could be selling 5-MeO (for instance) as DMT, and there are enough first-timers on SR who'd probably give him rave reviews (not knowing the difference), that it could take quite a while for this to catch up with him.  Of course, quality control is the other reason---reviews are always relative to what the person has had before, and so it's best to listen to the most experienced.

Anyway, this should definitely function as a review thread while the group idea gathers steam (or not).  PotatoConnoiseur: have you tried any DMT from SR?  What's your verdict on the vendors you've dealt with?
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: RaFaeL5 on 05 March 2013, 09:52:27
subscribing for a later moment when I have a bit more time,
great idea!!!
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: triptoheaven on 05 March 2013, 09:55:00
I'm very new to DMT, but that's a great idea. I've just had my first experience with it by changa from mahakala which was my best transaction and purchase so far.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Edawg420 on 05 March 2013, 10:22:07
All right noobs, lemme lay some knowledge on you.  First of all DMT is by far the best psychedelic out there, i started with changa, which was an amazing beginners introduction. I then finally decided to try the freebase. 

Now originally i just did the sandwitch method, between weed, and this worked out decent as u had to cherry it and burn slowly.  Also u had to burn slowly and not touch the fire to the DMT so it was tricky.

My friend introduced me to the GVG which was my FAVORITE for a while, UNTIL,

like someone said above the volcano.  Crank that sucker to 9.5 and crush your dmt up, bout a good .06-.07 up nice n fine, put a pinch of herb just to absorb any melting but trust me there wont be.  Bam son as you hit the air flow INSTANT vaporization fills the bag.  Don't make the bag too huge cuz the DMT will evaporate fast, i use oven bags.

Tell the person to relax, and make sure they finish the bag....if they can that is.....the VOLCANO is the best my friends, trust me i know...i've gone over 100 times and sent over 300 people.

PS leave them alone while they trip, it avoids social restrictions.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: triptoheaven on 05 March 2013, 11:01:59
How do you compare changa and freebase Edawg420 ?  Well it was a blastoff  with 100mg (%50 DMT). I'm pretty sure I can achieve that with like 60-70mg. That changa seems to be more potent than I thought.   
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: fractalglobal on 05 March 2013, 11:56:38
I'd be very keen to contribute here.  Been using DMT since my mid teens, I'm not sure on the exact number of trips I've done but its almost certainly >500 I'd say.

I honestly think the lightbulb pipe is the most efficient method of smoking it.  Sandwiching between weed will invariably result in some of the DMT being burnt, and ayahuaca mixes are too hard to determine dosages.

I'm yet to try commercial vaporizers however.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: samcrow on 05 March 2013, 12:07:50
dmt is to be taking with high caution and in my opinion best maybe once or twice a year, not more.


A cheeky fast and with high product vendor I chose for my first dmt order on the Road was mahakala , very friendly and fast communicatino. The country they send it from is no problem, I was scared at first but than it came flying in so fast that I was amazed. These guys def have a large network with different nodes for dispatch- >   http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a558c7d69b
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: triptoheaven on 05 March 2013, 13:04:53
Agree with samcrow. Mahakala's product quality, shipping speed, stealth and communication is insane. 
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: DMTisinME on 05 March 2013, 18:04:51
I'm in. This is a great idea and hey, maybe a shroom / psilocybin thread as well.

As for experience I extracted my own DMT for a few years until the mimosa raids in September and obviously have extensive experience with the drug itself, in smoked, pharma, and a few small dose ayahuasca trips. I am building to a very strong aya trip down the line if I can get more mimosa for it. I also want to be fucking zen for it, taking months of preparation beforehand to have the perfect mindset and probably won't take the drink again.

As for method of smoking it, I prefer the Glass vapor genie, but also sometimes use the sandwich in the bubbler to change it up. (You can get some damn big hits and the water filter is nice)

Sandwiching between weed will invariably result in some of the DMT being burnt.

This is definitely true. But it's also true that it simply takes time to get the perfect technique down with this. It's really finicky. And a good torch lighter is a must, otherwise it's a waste.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Edawg420 on 05 March 2013, 18:53:23
Gents, gents, i think you are misreading my meaning here.  All i am trying to say is that DMT is more life changing than ANYTHING in the world.  30mg is a good dose, but if you wanna meet god volcano up a .13/130mg .....i did =P
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: fractalglobal on 05 March 2013, 19:45:42
I don't think anyone was calling you out Edawg420, merely discussing their own preferences and experiences with DMT  :)
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: moiz on 05 March 2013, 19:51:02
I ordered previously from Asylum. Beautiful DMT crystals. Smoked smoothly using a homemade pipe. Not sure if i got to breakthrough stage can i just check with u guys. if i can still see my surroundings and its just really psychedelic  and there are fractal patterns and stuff does that mean its not breakthrough yet? I hear the distant ringing sound when on the come up and i recognize that its the same ringing sound we hear when we are in a quiet room Wonder if anyone has a similar experience.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 05 March 2013, 20:52:08
I personally dislike the terminology 'breaking through'.  It sounds like a euphemism to me, and I like to call it what it is: dying.  Every DMT trip I have follows this pattern: my self shatters, splintering off into tiny shards which spin isolated through the void; having no more self, I melt into the common and am free to see the Truth; after a while I begin to piece together a new mind out of what's lying about (i.e., the pieces of my former self).

The annihilation of the self is real and can be very devastating the first time you experience it.  This is death in a very real sense: the person you think you are going in WILL die, and although you'll build a new self (ego) to come out of the trip, it won't be the same one you entered with.  The upshot is seeing the Truth, which is so beautiful and inane and hilariously tautological as to be very, VERY much worth it.

DMT literally changed my life: when I first started smoking it, I suffered from depression and chemical dependency.  After a couple of DMT trips, I was free from having to take things so seriously as to get depressed about anything ever ... this also affected my relationship to other drugs, because I had nothing to run away from any longer---I still enjoyed them, but I didn't care and so phased them out/dialed my usage way back.

The actual perceptual experience can vary wildly.  Most of my DMT trips have been totally immersive hallucinatory experiences, but once I took a hit and nothing changed, the room I was in looked exactly the same ... then I turned and my death was standing there right over my shoulder.  She was the only actual hallucination I had that time, but the two of us staring at one another, me trying not to get sucked into her eyes, was one of the more poignant experiences I've had and launched the mind trip I mentioned above.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: fractalglobal on 05 March 2013, 21:15:05
I think the phrase is apt personally, I also believe that each person's experience will be somewhat unique in its effects upon their personality.  For me, the term "ego death" is somewhat of a misnomer, I experienced ego death(given the amount of times I've done DMT I guess its not surprising) and the perspective I developed from it was that there is essentially no reason to live for anyone else but yourself.  If anything, "ego inflation" would be a better term as my new perspective is essentially that I'm the most important person.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 05 March 2013, 21:35:48
If anything, "ego inflation" would be a better term as my new perspective is essentially that I'm the most important person.

LOL.  Good for you, Zaphod.

I was having some solipsist-type shroom trips which gave me similar ideas about 10 years ago.

I'll accept the terminology since it's in common use ... but it should be noted there is a qualitative difference between the ego loss achieved on DMT as opposed to other psychedelics.  Rather, there USUALLY is: I once took a megadose (I don't know exactly, but I estimate it at 1200+ ug) of LSD and achieved something like the ego death DMT brings (I also tripped for fucken 36 hours straight ... 'insane' just doesn't even cover it).
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 05 March 2013, 21:47:24
RETAKE:

Now that I'm thinking about it, I've gotten that sort of ego death on just about every trip since that mega-acid trip (this was in fact shortly before I first tried DMT) ... so maybe it isn't about the particular drug.  I always sort of assumed it was because it had happened EVERY TIME I took DMT.

For the compare/contrast: this experience doesn't make me feel more important than anything.  Rather, it makes me see how equal everything is---all beings, all decisions, etc---so that EVERYTHING is unimportant (I know I'm verging dangerously close to a Castaneda quote here, but it's true).

At the same time, I am reminded of WHY I chose my life.  That is, at the beginning of time when we were partitioning ourself into all the various experiences and lifetimes that would have to happen to create a reality for us to live in, I chose my life in every detail.  The decision was not selfish in the sense that my life is better than everyone else's ... but rather an æsthetic one (my life could not be chosen to be more beautiful). 

This is similar to fractalglobal's 'ego inflation' in the sense that I literally recall being God making choices, remembering why I decided people should have noses and why the moon should cross the sky in this exact arc, etc.  But accompanying this is the knowledge that we ALL were God back then. -_o
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Edawg420 on 05 March 2013, 21:56:25
How do you compare changa and freebase Edawg420 ?  Well it was a blastoff  with 100mg (%50 DMT). I'm pretty sure I can achieve that with like 60-70mg. That changa seems to be more potent than I thought.   

Sorry was in a coma...changa is dependent on the DMT % in the herb.  But if you don't wanna fuck it up, pack half yer gram in a dry bong.  There should be no water i it.  Then, SLOWLY cherry the herb, every so gently, but make sure u get a good cherry going.  Slow chalk that bitch till it reaches the top of that bong.

Take all that smokey goodness to the lungs...you'll prolly die from coughing but man up....the cherry should still be burning.  Chalk it up nice and slow again even though you walls are vibrating, BLAST it down the second time.  Have someone remove the bong for you, turn on some classical, or i love glitch mob music on.

There are mixed reviews on keeping eyes open or closed...i am a true believer in eyes closed.  Your mind is a BEAUTIFUL place to explore.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: fractalglobal on 05 March 2013, 22:05:50
If anything, "ego inflation" would be a better term as my new perspective is essentially that I'm the most important person.

LOL.  Good for you, Zaphod.


This reference made me laugh pretty hard.

@Edawg420: You are right regarding the smoke.  DMT is very harsh on the throat, its often described as smoking razor blades.

@triptoheaven: This is one of the reasons why I prefer smoking it out of a glass pipe.  I usually load up about 100mg, and keep it over a flame while inhaling, breathe in as much as you can hold, wait 20-30 seconds, and then release, do one more toke, put the pipe down quickly, and strap in!  The DMT that you don't inhale will recrystalize and you can do it again later, or pass to a friend.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 05 March 2013, 22:15:44
Have someone remove the bong for you, turn on some classical, or i love glitch mob music on.

On the subject of trip music, I almost always go with The Mars Volta (I know ... too obvious, right?).  I also occasionally listen to my own music (it's not some masturbatory narcissism thing, I just want to check the reaction to see if I'm achieving my desired effect).

Anyway, the all-time best DMT song (imo) is 'Asilos Magdalena' by TMV (I call it my Death Anthem for obvious reasons).  I strongly encourage you to try it out (it isn't trip-length or anything, so line up a few more for afterwards).

Silence is also good, though.  I don't want to over-stress music, because sometimes you definitely need to just listen to the music your mind makes.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Shy Guyy on 05 March 2013, 22:29:51
if anyone is interested in testing our yellow or white DMT i'd be happy to make a limited Avengers listing at 60 per gram/half gram. PM me here or on the main site if you are interested in a link to the hidden listing.

by the way, snorting DMT definitely hurts. it's been tried sublingually as well and the test subject suffered from burned gums.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: DMTisinME on 06 March 2013, 02:18:52
if anyone is interested in testing our yellow or white DMT i'd be happy to make a limited Avengers listing at 60 per gram/half gram. PM me here or on the main site if you are interested in a link to the hidden listing.

by the way, snorting DMT definitely hurts. it's been tried sublingually as well and the test subject suffered from burned gums.

It has to be fumerate. Don't try to snort freebase. It always burns though, freebase or fumerate.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: someoneelse87 on 06 March 2013, 02:40:42
For the Aussies... I've ordered off most of the DMT vendors and they are all good. Rainbow Snail is by far the cheapest and just as good quality as the others

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/43badb56eb
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Edawg420 on 06 March 2013, 19:15:56
I know it is not smart to dwell on the past, but does anybody remember KidCasio's DMT?   It was like pure 2g white crystals.  He always had like 3 varieties.  All of them where absolutely mind bending.  I really miss that guy.  I feel he is like the Albert Hoffman of my DMT experiences.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: DMTisinME on 06 March 2013, 22:05:32
Have someone remove the bong for you, turn on some classical, or i love glitch mob music on.

On the subject of trip music, I almost always go with The Mars Volta (I know ... too obvious, right?).  I also occasionally listen to my own music (it's not some masturbatory narcissism thing, I just want to check the reaction to see if I'm achieving my desired effect).

Anyway, the all-time best DMT song (imo) is 'Asilos Magdalena' by TMV (I call it my Death Anthem for obvious reasons).  I strongly encourage you to try it out (it isn't trip-length or anything, so line up a few more for afterwards).

Silence is also good, though.  I don't want to over-stress music, because sometimes you definitely need to just listen to the music your mind makes.

I tend to use music if there is some sort of background noise that could disturb the experience. I love to smoke it in the woods on a summer day -- and any very subtle, non-intrusive music works for me. It's nice to experiment with it.

On the vendors, I'm hearing a lot about Mahakala (IDK if that's spelled correctly), but has anyone sampled rogerpete's stuff? I'm torn between those two at this point.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Edawg420 on 06 March 2013, 23:01:56
@ DMTisinME, Oh shit dude i am definitely checking some of those tunes out when i blast off next!

But back to break through.... you will really truly know when you do because like someone said before its like completely dieing in this physical realm and being part of some bigger better and way more significant.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: greenturtle on 06 March 2013, 23:57:08
Hey y'all -

The idea here is simple: to take the Avengers LSD vendor review thread as a model and do something similar for DMT.  Specifically, this is a place to share your experiences with buying DMT on SR and discuss the quality of the product you received.  The hope is eventually we'll develop a core group (like the Avengers) who can reliably submit samples of DMT sold on SR to chemical and trip tests and post the results for the benefit of potential buyers.

The point of this thread is specifically to gauge people's interest.  I'm still a noob to SR, and if this idea takes off, I probably wouldn't be heading up this effort, but I'll support it as I can.  Feel free to share your experiences and/or express your interest in the group (or suggesting a good name for it, for that matter -_o).

If you post saying you're interested in participating in a DMT group, please say how you think you could help.  For instance, if you offer to be a trip tester, give us some credentials to go on ... tell us about your experience with the drug.

I havent tried any DMT yet, but I have a 1/2 gram on its way, BUT, I thought of a good name!

How about, The Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (IBD) DMT review thread!? I think it sounds cool!

Sorry if its not my place seeing as I have never blasted of with the Spirit Molecule yet, but I could not resist.

I will definitely let you all know how my first experience goes, I forgot who I ordered from but I think it was recomended in the LSDA thread.

Let me know what you think of the name!
GT
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Grey5kull on 07 March 2013, 00:08:20
For the Aussies... I've ordered off most of the DMT vendors and they are all good. Rainbow Snail is by far the cheapest and just as good quality as the others

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/43badb56eb

Good to hear! I think I will make my first DMT purchase soon. Maybe I'll try out Rainbow Snail!
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: valakki on 07 March 2013, 00:38:34
great thread! Im going to place my second order for DMT next week. (if everything goes well)

i can recommend Drshrooms. only purchased once from him  but it was fast delivery, properly packaged and very nice product! and he replies to messages fast.
He is selling yellow and white. Only yellow listing up at the moment. good price!


Anyone knows what leftovers color DMT red? 



 there is a  new seller up called Vatican: offering free samples!!  (Eu only)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/91d27addef
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 07 March 2013, 00:54:58
Hey guys -

I have a question:

I'm planning a pharma trip for a few days from now, and I made my own harmala extract from Syrian Rue (vinegar method).  I haven't done this before, but I followed the instructions (http://erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/syrian_rue_extraction2.shtml) given on erowid.

From an ounce of Rue seeds, I came up with a tiny amount (< 1 gram) of golden tan/brown powder that looks more or less exactly like dried dirt.  I had been expecting yellow or orange crystals, and the liquid this came out of was very yellow/orange.

Anyway, I intend to test this stuff before wasting DMT on a failed pharma ... but in the meantime, can anyone who's done this before tell me whether this sounds right?

PS - I tried to attach pics, but the attachment function doesn't seem to work.  Is there an image host for this forum?
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: valakki on 07 March 2013, 01:15:52
Hey guys -

I have a question:

I'm planning a pharma trip for a few days from now, and I made my own harmala extract from Syrian Rue (vinegar method).  I haven't done this before, but I followed the instructions (http://erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/syrian_rue_extraction2.shtml) given on erowid.

From an ounce of Rue seeds, I came up with a tiny amount (< 1 gram) of golden tan/brown powder that looks more or less exactly like dried dirt.  I had been expecting yellow or orange crystals, and the liquid this came out of was very yellow/orange.

Anyway, I intend to test this stuff before wasting DMT on a failed pharma ... but in the meantime, can anyone who's done this before tell me whether this sounds right?

PS - I tried to attach pics, but the attachment function doesn't seem to work.  Is there an image host for this forum?

hmm
 
the harmala alkaloids picture on erowid looks like that. brown dirt.
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/harmala/harmala.shtml
test it.
Dose should be 20-40 mg i think. but research it!!

Don't expect much from harmalas alone. feels interesting, psychedelic but not visual at all. has some interesting effect on the thoughts. Like every thought is running on a fine thread and it gets split and one thought goes many ways. electric feeling.

Don't forget to keep a strict the diet! These Maoi-s are RIMA (look it up on wiki) diet is not 100% necessary but i think it helps a lot, it gives a pure clean body feeling. And better be safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 07 March 2013, 01:52:07
Thanx, valakki.  The test I had in mind was to take a small amount an hour or so prior to smoking DMT to see if it had the advertised effect.  Those pics look pretty much like what I've got ... which makes me feel better.

I am aware of the diet restrictions, but I don't know what RIMA is (unless you mean Arnold Rimmer -_o) and apparently neither does the wiki.  The caffeine restriciton is a bit too bad, too, because I intend to take some salvia tea with this, and I usually like to brew this with some strong actual tea to disperse the bitterness.  Oh well ... I'd rather have bitter tea than encounter problems mid-trip.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: greenturtle on 07 March 2013, 02:03:41
Hey y'all -

The idea here is simple: to take the Avengers LSD vendor review thread as a model and do something similar for DMT.  Specifically, this is a place to share your experiences with buying DMT on SR and discuss the quality of the product you received.  The hope is eventually we'll develop a core group (like the Avengers) who can reliably submit samples of DMT sold on SR to chemical and trip tests and post the results for the benefit of potential buyers.

The point of this thread is specifically to gauge people's interest.  I'm still a noob to SR, and if this idea takes off, I probably wouldn't be heading up this effort, but I'll support it as I can.  Feel free to share your experiences and/or express your interest in the group (or suggesting a good name for it, for that matter -_o).

If you post saying you're interested in participating in a DMT group, please say how you think you could help.  For instance, if you offer to be a trip tester, give us some credentials to go on ... tell us about your experience with the drug.

I havent tried any DMT yet, but I have a 1/2 gram on its way, BUT, I thought of a good name!

How about, The Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (IBD) DMT review thread!? I think it sounds cool!

Sorry if its not my place seeing as I have never blasted of with the Spirit Molecule yet, but I could not resist.

I will definitely let you all know how my first experience goes, I forgot who I ordered from but I think it was recomended in the LSDA thread.

Let me know what you think of the name!
GT

I think the person I ordered from is rogerpete, good stuff right?

GT
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 07 March 2013, 02:22:29

I think the person I ordered from is rogerpete, good stuff right?

GT

That's an open question.  DMTisinME has been asking this too ... I don't personally know, but his customers sure seem to love him.  I do intend to try his stuff eventually.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 07 March 2013, 03:11:35
From an ounce of Rue seeds, I came up with a tiny amount (< 1 gram) of golden tan/brown powder that looks more or less exactly like dried dirt.

test it.
Dose should be 20-40 mg i think. but research it!!

Don't expect much from harmalas alone. feels interesting, psychedelic but not visual at all. has some interesting effect on the thoughts. Like every thought is running on a fine thread and it gets split and one thought goes many ways. electric feeling.

I was about to clean the dish I used to break up the extract and weigh it.  I ran my finger around the surface to pick up the dust left behind and licked it off ... much less than 20mg, but I do feel kinda trippy. ^_^  So happy this stuff works.  I'll be writing a trip report sometime next week for the pharma trip.  Should be fucken GREAT!
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: moonflower on 07 March 2013, 07:18:45

I think the person I ordered from is rogerpete, good stuff right?

GT

That's an open question.  DMTisinME has been asking this too ... I don't personally know, but his customers sure seem to love him.  I do intend to try his stuff eventually.
rogerpete's dmt is some of the best i've had, hands down. i can definitely feel the love he put into the synthesis. i find it very warm and gentle.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 07 March 2013, 07:28:13
rogerpete's dmt is some of the best i've had, hands down. i can definitely feel the love he put into the synthesis. i find it very warm and gentle.

hmmmm....

You've found two of the last adjectives I would use to describe any of the good DMT I've had.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Edawg420 on 07 March 2013, 08:12:59
Damn it roger mail my shit out...j/kin j/king but i wanna blast off so bad right now!
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Shy Guyy on 07 March 2013, 08:41:33
i've helped a few blast off  ;)
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: NortonTheFirst on 07 March 2013, 11:26:59
You've found two of the last adjectives I would use to describe any of the good DMT I've had.
I think that's a matter of individual perception and/or brain chemistry. I used to extract my own DMT, which I painstakingly recrystallized until perfectly white, and I always found the experience incredibly welcoming. Powerful, for sure, but not in any way that would contradict warmth or gentleness.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: lesseroftwoweevils on 07 March 2013, 12:33:49
I applaud the initiative taken to start this thread, but you guys should seriously consider extracting it yourself. A DMT extraction is stupid easy (more like baking a cake than actual chemistry): http://www.erowid.org/plants/mimosa/mimosa_chemistry1.shtml

The only difficult to obtain to obtain "precursor" is mimosa hostilis root bark (MHRB), which has unfortunately been almost impossible to source in North America ever since the feds started cracking down on its suppliers about 6 months ago.

The good news? I might have found a legitimate supplier from the Netherlands that sells MHRB at: 50grams for $17, 500g for $97, and a kilo for $165 (+ shipping and handling). Assuming you can even manage a 0.5% yield on your extractions, that's considerably cheaper than the prices you'd find here AND you'd know how pure it is.

 I'm out of town so I don't know if my order came through yet, but I'll know by Saturday/Sunday. I'll let you guys know how it went; feel free to PM me if everything goes as expected.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: fractalglobal on 07 March 2013, 13:08:03
great thread! Im going to place my second order for DMT next week. (if everything goes well)

i can recommend Drshrooms. only purchased once from him  but it was fast delivery, properly packaged and very nice product! and he replies to messages fast.
He is selling yellow and white. Only yellow listing up at the moment. good price!


Anyone knows what leftovers color DMT red? 



 there is a  new seller up called Vatican: offering free samples!!  (Eu only)
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/91d27addef

If extracted from MHRB, the most likely culprit is "Jungle spice." I suggest googling it.

@lesseroftwoweevils: I've been a proponent for DIY at least as far as DMT goes for quite a while. I did my first tek before I turned 16, and honestly, its the easiest entry into clandestine chemistry that you could ask for.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: valakki on 07 March 2013, 13:16:07
Thanx, valakki.  The test I had in mind was to take a small amount an hour or so prior to smoking DMT to see if it had the advertised effect.  Those pics look pretty much like what I've got ... which makes me feel better.

I am aware of the diet restrictions, but I don't know what RIMA is (unless you mean Arnold Rimmer -_o) and apparently neither does the wiki.  The caffeine restriciton is a bit too bad, too, because I intend to take some salvia tea with this, and I usually like to brew this with some strong actual tea to disperse the bitterness.  Oh well ... I'd rather have bitter tea than encounter problems mid-trip.

Rima is" Reversible inhibitor of monoamine oxidase A"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_inhibitor_of_monoamine_oxidase_A

"RIMAs are displaced from MAO-A in the presence of tyramine, rather than inhibiting its breakdown in the liver as general MAOIs do."
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: lesseroftwoweevils on 07 March 2013, 13:23:13
If extracted from MHRB, the most likely culprit is "Jungle spice." I suggest googling it.

@lesseroftwoweevils: I've been a proponent for DIY at least as far as DMT goes for quite a while. I did my first tek before I turned 16, and honestly, its the easiest entry into clandestine chemistry that you could ask for.


Awesome, thanks for the encouragement! This won't be my first time doing DMT, but it will be my first extraction attempt.

There's a new domestic vendor here (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/05b1194dc3) selling .1g samples for about $16 including S&H, so I decided to order one so I can compare it to my product. Maybe there's more to the process than I'm envisioning, but I'm anticipating similar effects.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: DMTisinME on 07 March 2013, 17:27:43
I applaud the initiative taken to start this thread, but you guys should seriously consider extracting it yourself. A DMT extraction is stupid easy (more like baking a cake than actual chemistry): http://www.erowid.org/plants/mimosa/mimosa_chemistry1.shtml

The only difficult to obtain to obtain "precursor" is mimosa hostilis root bark (MHRB), which has unfortunately been almost impossible to source in North America ever since the feds started cracking down on its suppliers about 6 months ago.

The good news? I might have found a legitimate supplier from the Netherlands that sells MHRB at: 50grams for $17, 500g for $97, and a kilo for $165 (+ shipping and handling). Assuming you can even manage a 0.5% yield on your extractions, that's considerably cheaper than the prices you'd find here AND you'd know how pure it is.

 I'm out of town so I don't know if my order came through yet, but I'll know by Saturday/Sunday. I'll let you guys know how it went; feel free to PM me if everything goes as expected.

If you post a story of success. I'll likely be interested. $165 is about double what it was before, but hey, supply & demand. Also, be sure to comment on quality if you can, also is it powdered, shredded, or whole?
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 07 March 2013, 19:46:42
The good news? I might have found a legitimate supplier from the Netherlands that sells MHRB at: 50grams for $17, 500g for $97, and a kilo for $165 (+ shipping and handling). Assuming you can even manage a 0.5% yield on your extractions, that's considerably cheaper than the prices you'd find here AND you'd know how pure it is.

Definitely excited to see how this turns out.


On an unrelated note:

I know I'm new here and everything, but I started this thread and have been TRYING to contribute to the community here because I think it's worth it

... and yet I keep getting -1'd.  WTF?!?!

I know this has nothing to do with most of you here ... but I'd appreciate it if the next person to -1 me at least had the bollocks to make a post and state what the issue was.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: fractalglobal on 07 March 2013, 19:59:47
The quality won't necessarily be "more" with a reseller, they have the same issues anyone has with alkaloid production by season.  They don't havest alkaloids in the peak season then deepfreeze and stockpile,  they may not even know when their trees are in peak alkaloid production(I have no idea for Mimosa Hostilis myself) However for any Australians out there, quite a few of the Acacia sp. have decent % of DMT regardless of season.

Acacia Obtusifolia, Acacia Acuminata, etc. etc.

Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Edawg420 on 07 March 2013, 20:20:02
@ lesseroftwoweevils, who do you guy you MHRB from!?!?!?!  America fucked me and now i can't do science experiments. I heard you needed like 1kilo for 10g worth of yield, not that i care, i am pretty good and synthesis.  But are these just clear net sites yer buying MHRB from?
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 08 March 2013, 04:49:40
UPDATE: I guess I read somewhere that harmala alkaloids had a soporific effect, but I didn't realise how much ...

I actually ate a couple of seeds a few days ago to see how much effect they had.  The only effect I noticed was that I got tired and went to bed and couldn't get up for like 10 hours (I normally sleep about 6 or 7).  This seemed odd, but I didn't think it could be entirely due to two tiny little seeds.  Then I took that miniscule amount of dust from the extract last night and the same thing happened, except that I tripped a little first (I ended up not smoking any DMT because I got too tired).  Most of today I still felt like I was under the effects of a heavy sedative.

Basically, what I'm saying is: GODDAMN this stuff is powerful!  The crazy thing is: people take MAOIs for depression ... it must affect depressed people differently, because the effects I experienced would NOT be helpful to a depressed individual.

UPDATE №2: I did the full trial last night.  Took a small amount of harmala powder sublingually along with a small amount of cannabis.  About an hour later, I smoked DMT.  The immersive hallucinatory portion was not lengthened (~10 mins), but seemed to be heightened (felt as if I'd smoked more than I did), but I continued to have low-level visuals until 30-35minutes after smoking and the total perceivable effects lasted at least 45 minutes.  I seemed to lack the speed for the initial (immersive) stage, and 'followed' the trip by memory rather than directly ... I'm not sure if this was because of the harmala or the cannabis (likely both).  Anyway, I'm taking this result as clenching proof my extract is doing its job and am all set to go with my pharmahuasca.

You've found two of the last adjectives I would use to describe any of the good DMT I've had.
I think that's a matter of individual perception and/or brain chemistry. I used to extract my own DMT, which I painstakingly recrystallized until perfectly white, and I always found the experience incredibly welcoming. Powerful, for sure, but not in any way that would contradict warmth or gentleness.

I should say: I wasn't trying to cast ass Persians on rogerpete's product.  Based on the reviews, I expect it's quite good.  I had actually hoped moonflower might ellaborate on this description since it clashes violently with my experience of the drug.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: DMTisinME on 08 March 2013, 23:27:57
UPDATE №2: I did the full trial last night.  Took a small amount of harmala powder sublingually along with a small amount of cannabis.  About an hour later, I smoked DMT.  The immersive hallucinatory portion was not lengthened (~10 mins), but seemed to be heightened (felt as if I'd smoked more than I did), but I continued to have low-level visuals until 30-35minutes after smoking and the total perceivable effects lasted at least 45 minutes.  I seemed to lack the speed for the initial (immersive) stage, and 'followed' the trip by memory rather than directly ... I'm not sure if this was because of the harmala or the cannabis (likely both).  Anyway, I'm taking this result as clenching proof my extract is doing its job and am all set to go with my pharmahuasca.

I can second these effects from taking a harmaline then smoking DMT. Pretty accurate description.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: moonflower on 09 March 2013, 00:03:23
UPDATE: I guess I read somewhere that harmala alkaloids had a soporific effect, but I didn't realise how much ...

I actually ate a couple of seeds a few days ago to see how much effect they had.  The only effect I noticed was that I got tired and went to bed and couldn't get up for like 10 hours (I normally sleep about 6 or 7).  This seemed odd, but I didn't think it could be entirely due to two tiny little seeds.  Then I took that miniscule amount of dust from the extract last night and the same thing happened, except that I tripped a little first (I ended up not smoking any DMT because I got too tired).  Most of today I still felt like I was under the effects of a heavy sedative.

Basically, what I'm saying is: GODDAMN this stuff is powerful!  The crazy thing is: people take MAOIs for depression ... it must affect depressed people differently, because the effects I experienced would NOT be helpful to a depressed individual.

UPDATE №2: I did the full trial last night.  Took a small amount of harmala powder sublingually along with a small amount of cannabis.  About an hour later, I smoked DMT.  The immersive hallucinatory portion was not lengthened (~10 mins), but seemed to be heightened (felt as if I'd smoked more than I did), but I continued to have low-level visuals until 30-35minutes after smoking and the total perceivable effects lasted at least 45 minutes.  I seemed to lack the speed for the initial (immersive) stage, and 'followed' the trip by memory rather than directly ... I'm not sure if this was because of the harmala or the cannabis (likely both).  Anyway, I'm taking this result as clenching proof my extract is doing its job and am all set to go with my pharmahuasca.

You've found two of the last adjectives I would use to describe any of the good DMT I've had.
I think that's a matter of individual perception and/or brain chemistry. I used to extract my own DMT, which I painstakingly recrystallized until perfectly white, and I always found the experience incredibly welcoming. Powerful, for sure, but not in any way that would contradict warmth or gentleness.

I should say: I wasn't trying to cast ass Persians on rogerpete's product.  Based on the reviews, I expect it's quite good.  I had actually hoped moonflower might ellaborate on this description since it clashes violently with my experience of the drug.
well, dmt didn't always feel gentle to me... i was very anxious  before i got used to the dmt state. how you feel going into the experience really affects your trip. if you are anxious, you're likely to have a more intense, overwhelming experience. also, not all the extractions i've had were gentle. it seems to vary . of course it also depends on your brain chemistry. rogerpete's synthetic dmt is probably the gentlest dmt i've had. i shared some with friends and they felt the same way. it's just such beautiful stuff, i can really feel the love he put into it.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 09 March 2013, 00:21:54
well, dmt didn't always feel gentle to me... i was very anxious  before i got used to the dmt state. how you feel going into the experience really affects your trip. if you are anxious, you're likely to have a more intense, overwhelming experience. also, not all the extractions i've had were gentle. it seems to vary . of course it also depends on your brain chemistry. rogerpete's synthetic dmt is probably the gentlest dmt i've had. i shared some with friends and they felt the same way. it's just such beautiful stuff, i can really feel the love he put into it.

My first DMT experiences were quite harsh, and necessarily so.  This eased away as I adjusted my psyche to embrace the knowledge the experience brings.  I don't always find it overwhelming either, but it is still always very sudden and intense for me.  Far from gentle, in my experience it goes through the gestures of a tongue-in-cheek sort of reveling in a completely fatuous notion of its own obscenity, all the while revealing as an afterthought the secrets of existence.  This makes the whole trip utterly hilarious in the least 'gentle' way imaginable, but I really like it that way.  It's not as if I'd ever understand what your experience of this drug is, but I am very glad to experience it in the way that I do. Cheers.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: moonflower on 09 March 2013, 01:16:42
well, dmt didn't always feel gentle to me... i was very anxious  before i got used to the dmt state. how you feel going into the experience really affects your trip. if you are anxious, you're likely to have a more intense, overwhelming experience. also, not all the extractions i've had were gentle. it seems to vary . of course it also depends on your brain chemistry. rogerpete's synthetic dmt is probably the gentlest dmt i've had. i shared some with friends and they felt the same way. it's just such beautiful stuff, i can really feel the love he put into it.

My first DMT experiences were quite harsh, and necessarily so.  This eased away as I adjusted my psyche to embrace the knowledge the experience brings.  I don't always find it overwhelming either, but it is still always very sudden and intense for me.  Far from gentle, in my experience it goes through the gestures of a tongue-in-cheek sort of reveling in a completely fatuous notion of its own obscenity, all the while revealing as an afterthought the secrets of existence.  This makes the whole trip utterly hilarious in the least 'gentle' way imaginable, but I really like it that way.  It's not as if I'd ever understand what your experience of this drug is, but I am very glad to experience it in the way that I do. Cheers.
i always feel very rejuvenated after smoking dmt, like i just awoke from a sound, restful sleep. i think the warmth and joy i get stems mostly from my strong feelings towards dmt... i find it to be quite cleansing and healing in a lot of ways, and feel that it is a molecule which is essential to life. it's called the "spirit molecule" for a reason. :P
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Flyhigh on 09 March 2013, 04:26:21
subscribing to a Great Thread ..good luck...

peace  ;D
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 12 March 2013, 20:30:03
For anyone who's curious about the pharmahuasca trip I posted about a few times on this thread, I wrote up a full report and posted it here (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=130501.0).
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Edawg420 on 13 March 2013, 00:07:32
Wanna pop in and say Rogerpete is the fucking man, and if there was a star vendor he is one.  Uber fast delivery, stuff looks and smells good I'll have an official trip report later.
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: greenturtle on 13 March 2013, 08:45:05
Wanna pop in and say Rogerpete is the fucking man, and if there was a star vendor he is one.  Uber fast delivery, stuff looks and smells good I'll have an official trip report later.

+1 I just received .5 grams and will test in beginning of April when i return home from work.

@OP, posted a few pages ago, but, instead of DMT Swingers, how about The Inter Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters? I think it has a good ring to it. Ill be back with a review of Roger Pete shortly, ans my first for experience.

GT
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: greenturtle on 13 March 2013, 08:47:48
Damn  auto correct, not swingers, avengers, lol.

GT
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 13 March 2013, 18:17:51
Damn  auto correct, not swingers, avengers, lol.

GT

LOL.  Auto-correct seems to be going to lengths to put words in your mouth (which is why I keep it turned off).  I hadn't forgotten your suggestion ... I was sort of waiting for others to sound in on the issue.  I do like the trade union reference---in fact, I used to be in the IBEW.  Honestly, I still think we can do better, but your suggestion is without a doubt an improvement on the thread title we have now.  I'll make the change now, and if someone comes along later with something even better, I'll change it again. -_o
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: Lucius Luv on 13 March 2013, 19:51:07
great thread.  i tried elvis dmt, it was not white.. but was good. 

the non white dmt and even dmt goo can be just as strong, but usually stronger than pure white dmt, because of various other alkaloids which potentiate the dmt.  for those who can't find mhrb, You can get  very interesting dmt from the acacia species, on extracts many get goo, but even with no crystal(though i get plenty of white crystal), its been shown to contain over 90% dmt with other alkaloids including NMT;  making it some very potent dmt hash :)   this will give you a good 20 minute+ strong ass dmt experience that is very beautiful and completely different, and feels like being sucked through a time warp.  burns better than crystal too. 

pipe or even better dry bong ime are the best ways to use dmt..  way too easy to burn it in a oil burner pipe. 

and umm... i would love to trade mhrb sources via pm...  i have about  3 of em and 1 possible u.s. domestic thats unconfirmed. 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: Poisonouss on 13 March 2013, 21:05:33
Ah, this is definitely something I'd love to become a part of. Personally, I'm a huge proponent of DMT and I've had quite a few experiences with it, also really love the Avengers LSD Reviews, they help a lot. And as far as "gentle" goes when describing DMT, I'd only use that about 30 minutes or more into the experience. To me, it's more of a feeling of discovery. Still, easily the most ineffable thing I've ever experienced. Also, not understanding these few posts about a torch lighter. I really prefer a soft flame for anything I'm going to inhale, so much better for your lungs and doesn't hurt the DMT as much, but hey, whatever floats your boat. That's what I'm all about.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on 13 March 2013, 21:44:31
Tried DRshrooms' DMT few weeks back, it was excellent. Nice off white, slight yellow tinge to it. but over all very clean. Sub'd BTW 8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: jmoney113 on 13 March 2013, 21:49:43
I've previously tried moon unit's DMT here on the road. It was of the jungle spice variety as it was a very yellow color, but the product itself was incredible. Stealth was some of the best I've seen on the road as well, shipping time was 2 days if I recall correctly. Didn't weigh it out but with the amount of hits I got, I'm going to say it was heavier than the gram it was purported to be. It used to be a great price, but still well worth the value and moon unit's top notch service.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 13 March 2013, 21:55:27
great thread.  i tried elvis dmt, it was not white.. but was good. 

the non white dmt and even dmt goo can be just as strong, but usually stronger than pure white dmt, because of various other alkaloids which potentiate the dmt.  for those who can't find mhrb, You can get  very interesting dmt from the acacia species, on extracts many get goo, but even with no crystal(though i get plenty of white crystal), its been shown to contain over 90% dmt with other alkaloids including NMT;  making it some very potent dmt hash :)   this will give you a good 20 minute+ strong ass dmt experience that is very beautiful and completely different, and feels like being sucked through a time warp.  burns better than crystal too. 

pipe or even better dry bong ime are the best ways to use dmt..  way too easy to burn it in a oil burner pipe. 

and umm... i would love to trade mhrb sources via pm...  i have about  3 of em and 1 possible u.s. domestic thats unconfirmed.

I think I know what you mean.  Not long ago, I smoked too much (high quality) yellow DMT and had a very different trip than I was used to.  I had a powerful rushing sensation and an intense body high.  I was sucked into a kaleidoscope (i.e., that's what the visuals looked like).

The thing is, DMT visuals shouldn't be like a kaleidoscope (although I've seen them described that way in some reviews).  The visual experience I had on that trip was extremely washed-out, fuzzed-out, and degraded compared to what I normally get.  DMT gives incredibly sharp, vivid visuals and a rather mild body high ... it should be more like stepping into another world than a kaleidoscope.

That said, I've learned not to turn my nose up at anything that isn't pure white.  There's some very good yellow out there which still has a very high DMT content.

I'm really not sure how you're managing to 'burn' things in an oil pipe ... if it's vapable, an oil pipe will vape it (that is, after all, what it's DESIGNED to do).  Some people like to invest in fancy vaporisers, and I can understand that, but I don't understand how a pipe that's designed to burn does a better job vaporising than one that's designed to vape.  I admit I've only ever smoked crystals, but this sounds like nonsense to me.  Please correct me if I've misconstrued what you were trying to say.

Do keep us posted about the MHRB situation.  I think many of us are excited to try out our own extractions.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: anonman88 on 13 March 2013, 22:06:15
WTF, i can't believe i am only finding out about this thread now, dam forums being down. @edawg, wtf dude, i can't believe you didn't message me to let me know about this thread being started :P
I know it is not smart to dwell on the past, but does anybody remember KidCasio's DMT?   It was like pure 2g white crystals.  He always had like 3 varieties.  All of them where absolutely mind bending.  I really miss that guy.  I feel he is like the Albert Hoffman of my DMT experiences.

edawg already knows my opinion on kidcasio's DMT, but for all others, it was some of the best shit i have ever had, which was a mutual agreement with all of my friends.

on a pipe note, i was at a gas station the other day and discovered a new type of glass rose that they sold. it is literally the perfect free base pipe, clearly made for crack, but works amazing with keif, any other concentrate, or DMT.this is a picture of what it looks like, except the ones i have been getting have a black holder so you don't burn your hand from touching the glass : http://www.tricities.com/news/article_0f42ead0-75c8-508d-8b55-01589dc39258.html?mode=image&photo=0  i smoked some keif out of it to test it out, and it was nice, so we put some DMT in there my friend had and it was perfect, completely vaporizing the substance without burning it, allowing us all to "break through" and trip balls. was very nice and i highly recommend to anyone if you can find one.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: Poisonouss on 13 March 2013, 22:17:27
on a pipe note, i was at a gas station the other day and discovered a new type of glass rose that they sold. it is literally the perfect free base pipe, clearly made for crack, but works amazing with keif, any other concentrate, or DMT.this is a picture of what it looks like, except the ones i have been getting have a black holder so you don't burn your hand from touching the glass : http://www.tricities.com/news/article_0f42ead0-75c8-508d-8b55-01589dc39258.html?mode=image&photo=0  i smoked some keif out of it to test it out, and it was nice, so we put some DMT in there my friend had and it was perfect, completely vaporizing the substance without burning it, allowing us all to "break through" and trip balls. was very nice and i highly recommend to anyone if you can find one.

I completely agree, use a pipe that looks just like that. Works the best in my opinion, allows vaporization and you really don't need anything except DMT, and it's really inexpensive as well.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: valakki on 13 March 2013, 23:03:28
i like the new tittle.
anyone else up here from the alpha century? Im goin home babe! Im goin home!  gonna inhale again sooon!!! waiting for the bloody coins...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: Lucius Luv on 14 March 2013, 04:58:18

I think I know what you mean.  Not long ago, I smoked too much (high quality) yellow DMT and had a very different trip than I was used to.  I had a powerful rushing sensation and an intense body high.  I was sucked into a kaleidoscope (i.e., that's what the visuals looked like).

The thing is, DMT visuals shouldn't be like a kaleidoscope (although I've seen them described that way in some reviews).  The visual experience I had on that trip was extremely washed-out, fuzzed-out, and degraded compared to what I normally get.  DMT gives incredibly sharp, vivid visuals and a rather mild body high ... it should be more like stepping into another world than a kaleidoscope.

That said, I've learned not to turn my nose up at anything that isn't pure white.  There's some very good yellow out there which still has a very high DMT content.

I'm really not sure how you're managing to 'burn' things in an oil pipe ... if it's vapable, an oil pipe will vape it (that is, after all, what it's DESIGNED to do).  Some people like to invest in fancy vaporisers, and I can understand that, but I don't understand how a pipe that's designed to burn does a better job vaporising than one that's designed to vape.  I admit I've only ever smoked crystals, but this sounds like nonsense to me.  Please correct me if I've misconstrued what you were trying to say.

Do keep us posted about the MHRB situation.  I think many of us are excited to try out our own extractions.
i used a v neck stem oil burner, in which i now retired for hash and oil, the dmt crystallized too much on the  sides throughout the glass, and it is very easy to burn the dmt before getting a good 2+ hits. I should prob try out a straight stem oil burner before giving up that method completely. I have had good hits on the oil burner, don't get me wrong, but many blast off's on oil burner vs other methods proved other methods worked better for me, and  friends.

 there are differences in highs between yellow mhrb dmt and the yellow acacia paste, you tried both? like you said  i do need a little more to blast off correctly on the yellow paste from acacia.. but the high is way longer.  i did not notice the body buzz being stronger myself, but i would say visuals where smoother, not as sharp, but more integrated and a complete mind fuck. 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: incogmagnito on 14 March 2013, 05:52:32
Great DMT appreciation thread! Thank you.

For all those starting I would like to share some of my experiences of vendors and smoking.

I have so far tried spice from dmtnexus, Walter and PPLLUURR ... Every single one of them is slightly different, but all are good. Actually, here is a thought - could those experienced with many different types or spices supplied by different vendors try to post a comparative report. I know they are different. I just need to go back to each of them and refresh my memory. I wonder what drives thee differences.

On smoking - get yourself The Machine. I have wasted a LOT of product until I got it. All those methods of gaping in pipe, on coals, on bed of cannabis, etc are just fiddles. The machine helps to never experience the burned plastic bottle taste and gives you breakthrough in one take. To build it is easy - you will be amazed at the difference it will make
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 14 March 2013, 06:29:09
i used a v neck stem oil burner, in which i now retired for hash and oil, the dmt crystallized too much on the  sides throughout the glass, and it is very easy to burn the dmt before getting a good 2+ hits. I should prob try out a straight stem oil burner before giving up that method completely. I have had good hits on the oil burner, don't get me wrong, but many blast off's on oil burner vs other methods proved other methods worked better for me, and  friends.

 there are differences in highs between yellow mhrb dmt and the yellow acacia paste, you tried both? like you said  i do need a little more to blast off correctly on the yellow paste from acacia.. but the high is way longer.  i did not notice the body buzz being stronger myself, but i would say visuals where smoother, not as sharp, but more integrated and a complete mind fuck.

My oil pipes have always been straight-necked ... pretty much exactly like the one anonman88 posted a pic of.  I definitely still think oil pipes are better for smoking crystals.  I have never had trouble with burning DMT in them, but I've also found that going for more than one hit doesn't improve the experience.  I used to try to go for two, but it's like having to maintain focus long enough to do that broke the pace of the trip.  Anyway, I always have had better, more visual trips on only one hit.

The stuff I'm talking about is MHRB.  It's the pale yellow I got from pimpit (and reviewed as very good).  When it first arrived, I was suspicious of the quality because it was not white.  So I loaded a lot up and (again, only taking one hit) took too dense a lungful.  I had a powerful rushing sensation, like being on a rocket (or shot out of a canon) and an extreme body high.  The visuals conformed to this and screamed by me in butter-mint candy colours from a kaleidoscopic epicentre.  The visuals were definitely not as sharp as usual, but were too bright as if they were over-exposed or something.  Also, they remained completely abstract rather than becoming recognisable beings and things like I normally see. The visuals lasted only a couple of minutes, but the body high stuck around for about half an hour.

This was different enough from the experience I was used to that I thought it must be a different drug.  I perused erowid and decided it must have been 5-MeO-DMT.  I angrily messaged the vendor who protested that it was labelled correctly.  I had to be totally sure I knew what I was talking about before giving this vendor a bad review, and so I vaped some of the residue from the pipe, and had a completely good DMT trip.  I'm not sure if this was the effect of too much DMT or of some other residuals that were left over from the extraction, but I haven't had any problem since.  I had never had this kind of experience smoking white stuff, but I'm not sure I ever took so much at once before either.

This experience was actually what led to me creating this thread.  I thought I'd been 5-MeO'd and fortunately I was mistaken and pimpit had actually done quite well by me.  At the same time, I could see this or something similar happening on the road and a lot of people might fall for it before the truth came out.  Although this particular substitution might not be very likely, it got me thinking that we ought to try to keep a standard with the DMT on SR they way the Avengers do with LSD.

As an experience, it might be good to have added this to the thread, but I guess it isn't really related to what you were saying as it has nothing to do with acacia DMT.  I don't think I've ever tried it.  If I did, it would have been some yellow DMT of unknown origins I had long ago which wasn't potent enough to be worth discussing.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: Grey5kull on 14 March 2013, 11:29:38
Newbie question here, guys...

If you're using a glass oil pipe, do you need a torch lighter? Or will a regular lighter do? I have a Zippo.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: KazushiS58 on 14 March 2013, 13:25:54
Great thread, I've been looking to try DMT for a while now. I've heard that Jesus of Raves DMT is pretty good, can anyone who's tried it let me know? I'd rather buy it from someone in the same country I think so he's the best option for me.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: Poisonouss on 14 March 2013, 14:43:12
Great thread, I've been looking to try DMT for a while now. I've heard that Jesus of Raves DMT is pretty good, can anyone who's tried it let me know? I'd rather buy it from someone in the same country I think so he's the best option for me.

Never bought DMT from him, but have bought his acid. It was pretty good, nothing wrong with the quality or the stealth and the shipping was decent. I'd recommend him just for that.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: DMTisinME on 14 March 2013, 17:13:44
Great thread, I've been looking to try DMT for a while now. I've heard that Jesus of Raves DMT is pretty good, can anyone who's tried it let me know? I'd rather buy it from someone in the same country I think so he's the best option for me.

Never bought DMT from him, but have bought his acid. It was pretty good, nothing wrong with the quality or the stealth and the shipping was decent. I'd recommend him just for that.

It's kind of necessary to specify which type of LSD you got from JOR. He has had different stuff. Was it Christ or Lotus crystal? Blotter or Liquid?

On his DMT, kazushi, I'd say give him a go, the only reason I didn't go with him was because he was international for me.  ;)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 14 March 2013, 19:29:50
Newbie question here, guys...

If you're using a glass oil pipe, do you need a torch lighter? Or will a regular lighter do? I have a Zippo.

No need for a torch.  I use a tall-flamed lighter. Your Zippo should do nicely, but hold it far enough away that only the tip of the flame touches the glass.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: Poisonouss on 14 March 2013, 20:00:49
Great thread, I've been looking to try DMT for a while now. I've heard that Jesus of Raves DMT is pretty good, can anyone who's tried it let me know? I'd rather buy it from someone in the same country I think so he's the best option for me.

Never bought DMT from him, but have bought his acid. It was pretty good, nothing wrong with the quality or the stealth and the shipping was decent. I'd recommend him just for that.

It's kind of necessary to specify which type of LSD you got from JOR. He has had different stuff. Was it Christ or Lotus crystal? Blotter or Liquid?

On his DMT, kazushi, I'd say give him a go, the only reason I didn't go with him was because he was international for me.  ;)

I was referring to right now, since that's what were talking about. All he's selling is liquid LSD atm, and thats what I tried of his.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: 4theCause on 14 March 2013, 20:25:41
already posted this in rogerpete's review thread but figured it belonged here to:

RogerPete is a saint!
Went out of the way to make me a custom listing, despite the large volume of orders; and it arrived promptly, weighing .25 over! 8]  Smells like the stuff (ancient bodies) and looks like the picture.
Spammed to 50 just so I could post here and let people know how awesome you are :)
I got a kick out of your stealth, very professional and unexpected.

With 15 mg:
Surrounded by close friends and a good environment with music, tapestries, etc.
Using a glass bulb pipe for the first time, accidentally burned the sacrament, got it all in one hit.
Laid back and felt an immense body high, closed my eyes and had the sensation of being moved through a dimly lit tunnel.  Opened my eyes and the ceiling tiles were shifting.  Suddenly, 4 lines bolted towards each other on the ceiling and collided, creating a bright prism of light that startled me and I quickly shut my eyes again.  Was in the tunnel once again, and the effects faded until baseline.

With 25 mg:
Different room, the friend whose room it was had some emotional issues at the time so it wasn't the best setting. Went for it anyway.  Held the flame an inch below the bulb and breathed the smoke in slowly and deeply.  Set it down and got an eerie feeling from everybody staring at me.  As I looked at the floor tiles, they started to defy physical reality by morphing into each other and I felt as if the building might collapse.  Closed my eyes and laid my head in my lap.  Lost bodily sensation at this point, and was projected into a rainbow colored 3 dimensional web.  I felt very safe, as if being held by my mother as a child.  Opened my eyes and the world around me was too much to process, too many objects and non-objects rising out of the chaos.  Closed my eyes and was greeted by a prism emitting colors that I have never seen before, and may never see again. I felt like a ray of light amongst the others, with no corporeal restraints. Beautiful.

With 40mg:
Prepared for my first timer friend upon request.  Helped him with the oil burner, which I can now accomplish effortlessly.  He takes three massive tokes like a champ, then lays back with his eyes closed for approximately 15 minutes.  During this time he breathed as if he was sleeping.  Also, he had the biggest smile I have ever seen on his face and I couldn't help but laugh :)  Any attempt at contact was greeted by silence and his huge grin.  When he sits up he declares "I get it now!" "I completely understand!".  I ask, "Was it explained to you?".  He declares "No, I was shown!"  He looks at me with that smile still plastered across his face, and tears start to form.  "Thank you." he whispers, "Thank you."  Later on I asked for details on the experience, but he chose to withhold the journey in his personal memory, which I fully respect.

Haven't even used a full point yet.
Keep up the good fight!
Eternally Grateful,
-4theCause
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 14 March 2013, 20:36:59
You didn't actually say so ... but from your description, I'm guessing these were your first experiences?  It sounds like you need to get to where your friend went.

For those who hadn't noticed, I've added a 'good' vendor list to the OP.  Let me know if I miss anything.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: Poisonouss on 14 March 2013, 21:56:47
You didn't actually say so ... but from your description, I'm guessing these were your first experiences?  It sounds like you need to get to where your friend went.

For those who hadn't noticed, I've added a 'good' vendor list to the OP.  Let me know if I miss anything.

I'll be posting a review of Rainbowbrite123's DMT. Ordered it on Saturday, received it on Tuesday. Needless to say, above speedy shipping. The stealth was superb as well; however, my scale is broken, but I am getting a new one over the weekend.I  will have some time to give it a try then. I'll make a thread about it and link it here.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread)
Post by: 4theCause on 14 March 2013, 22:58:23
You didn't actually say so ... but from your description, I'm guessing these were your first experiences?  It sounds like you need to get to where your friend went.

For those who hadn't noticed, I've added a 'good' vendor list to the OP.  Let me know if I miss anything.

Yes, these were my first experiences (ft), same goes for my friend.
Waiting until a weekend nature trip to visit the same dimension as my buddy :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 14 March 2013, 23:29:16
Does anybody else have this sick obsession in "blasting people off"?  Let me explain before you all roast me =P  I just love finding people who haven't tried it yet and getting them to do it.  I have a volcano and have smoked DMT at least 50+ times...

Now i really don't go anymore, but i never not have any....lol...if someone has the balls i give it to them for free.  LMAO  i usually put like 70mg in it too just to make sure they are fucking gone.

Sometimes people come back and have amazing adventures, but then there are those cocky bitches who get FUCKING OWNED by hyperspace because they have no humility or they may not be in the right peace of mind.

Either way i LOVE it...i mean its like a high for me...i enjoy hearing the stories of the new comer more than i like going ???

Am i fucked?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 15 March 2013, 00:01:55
Sometimes people come back and have amazing adventures, but then there are those cocky bitches who get FUCKING OWNED by hyperspace because they have no humility or they may not be in the right peace of mind.

Am i fucked?

LOL. I love that you ask this here ... among people who've used DMT enough to have ZERO belief in this sort of notion of morality.  I am more cautious because the ones I really want to see 'break through' are close friends---I have invested too much in them not to care if they hate me afterward.  It really IS a little awkward to acknowledge that the whole point of the exercise is ego death and then turn to someone and say out of the other side of your mouth, "I really think YOU could benefit from this experience." -_o

At the same time, this doesn't AT ALL keep me from doing it.  I just need to be cautious, because I'm no longer the college kid with lots of eager guinea pigs to try this out on ... I usually recommend shrooms then LSD then DMT and don't give it to anyone who hasn't handled those trips with flying colours.

In all seriousness, though, I think the world would be a better place if everyone tried LSD and DMT .... so please keep up the good work.  Also: you should man up and blast off so we can confirm your recommendation of rogerpete.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 15 March 2013, 00:17:09
LMAO....yeah listen here brotha!.... the DMT Goddess is gonna OWN me...because i know in my head i totally deserve it...i mean ...i call it necromancing people... LMAO... because i send their ass to the land of the dead =P

No no no... i am a nice shaman... only because i know what it feels like to be trapped in a world you are afraid and uncomfortable with.  But none the less if your gonna tell me your gonna "OWN" the dmt gods before you go....i literally can't wait for them to rip your mind apart.

And like I'm 99% sure this is quality deems, i am VERY used to DMT...Kidcasio used to send me 10g packs at a time of pure white synthesized crystal.

Now i wouldn't classify it there, but a close friend who is a TRUE psychonaut (i'm a retired one)  blasted off and said it was good quality.  And i only gave him 50mg.  Usually i own his ass with .1
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 15 March 2013, 00:38:59
Haha. This made me smile edawg. I can admit to doing this more than a few times as well, especially when I extracted it myself. Although I don't think DMT has much to do with morality when smoked. It all happens too fast. It's not like "forced introspection" that happens with the classic long psychs: LSD, psilocybin, and mescaline. It's more like a "forced surrender." Usually it get's bad for them if they try to resist. I sent one person there who like GGA said, had almost no notion of morality, and he began extracting some of his own and had absolutely no self control. He smoked it right after he landed back on his feet on repeat like 40 or 50x in a day. I saw him a week later and he honestly looked a little removed. And just said to me, "man.... I went WAYY too far. That shit is never going away." It's his fault I know, but I enabled him... so the guilt is conflicting.

Also, I've got some from rogerpete here that I will try tonight and report back.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 15 March 2013, 01:11:56
Also, edawg, I see you favor a volcano for DMT usage. I hadn't thought about this. I know it's gotta be good, but just how good is it? And it doesn't add a taste of DMT when you use it for bud again does it?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: impkin on 15 March 2013, 01:36:22
Looking forward to my first experience soon. Subscribing for the great info in this thread.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 15 March 2013, 03:25:45
@ DMTisinME, bro....me, and EVERYBODY that has ever done DMT with me before when i used the sandwich method, even the GVG (although this works perfectly fine also) when we used the volcano though it feels like a whole new experience.


I guess for

1. it doesn't smell half as bad, because u are vaporizing the DMT not burning it.

2. IDK what temp 9.5 (its the volcano max) but it works magic...if you have ever used a volcano before u know it comes with bags.  As you push the hot air through the chamber, where your DMT is, i put a pinch of weed to keep the trip mellow and something for the DMT to absorb into need be.  Vapor that i swear looks like a DEEP thick vapor that comes out INSTANTLY.  Not like weed where u need to wait a second or two to let the THC heat up before vapor comes out.  INSTANT VAPOR!

3. There is no hurry to power smoke it down right away, you can see all the vapor in the bag, so you have a second or 2 to really dedicate yourself and make the decision to transcend ( i use oven bags u buy at the store).  But once you start to hit it, it means you gotta act fast because i have people ALL THE TIME not finish their bags.

LOL its like a big thing if you finish the bag on yer first try.... i recognize you as a true psychonaut and i don't give you shit anymore...Honestly though its like on you second rip, which goes down so smoothly let me add btw.  Not harsh at all...you are just taken...and i mean TAKEN...

Anyways yeah dude on your second rip you are pretty much somewhere else...if you somehow man up and take the entire bag it is EPIC....FULL break through every time... i don't cough this way also so i can practically meditate the entire time I'm gone.  I swear I've gone for like HOURS before.

Like i would pack it up AS SOON as i got back and peaced the fuck out again...granted i had like 10g at the time and it was cheap as fuck back then 550 for 10g like 6-7 months ago.

So yeah if you have  endless supply that's how you truly adventure but i swear you go deeper and deeper every time u go...and the last time i went was ENDING....i thought i died...lost any self recognition...went to a pure forest planet...from what i could tell...was a being of light and had moved on with life as a being of light...only to be ripped back to this world by entities that wished me farewell and good luck as i was thrown back to this world.

I think half the reason i don't go now is because i get an entity EVERY time .  And they have always been good or a trickster as i would put it.  So they never did any mean things but they would like mess with me and make me laugh.  This is probably going to sound insane to anybody who hasn't done it.  But i get literally a goddess or god that approaches me or some trickster who makes me laugh historically.

Anyways i am happy with DMT as it has been awesome and i don't want to spoil it with a bad trip.  And i saw the power it has over the mind, so i can just see where a bad trip could lead.  I would wish it upon not even my worst enemies. 

I know it sounds awesome and quite frankly it was, but holy shit anything that has that much power over my mind...well i shouldn't be fucking with it....
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Poisonouss on 15 March 2013, 04:01:49
I know it sounds awesome and quite frankly it was, but holy shit anything that has that much power over my mind...well i shouldn't be fucking with it....

It sorta sounds like you aren't a big proponent of DMT anymore, especially with that last sentence. Idk, my trips are more introspective and deep, (trying hard not to be pretentious here) than just trippy. I feel like I discover things about myself I never would have known otherwise and it's such a humbling experience, imho, your experiences sound more like my experiences with shrooms. Being approached by an entity, becoming a being of light. I feel like DMT is more of a meditation thing for me, allowing me to stare into my very existence.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 15 March 2013, 04:13:10
I know it sounds awesome and quite frankly it was, but holy shit anything that has that much power over my mind...well i shouldn't be fucking with it....

It sorta sounds like you aren't a big proponent of DMT anymore, especially with that last sentence. Idk, my trips are more introspective and deep, (trying hard not to be pretentious here) than just trippy. I feel like I discover things about myself I never would have known otherwise and it's such a humbling experience, imho, your experiences sound more like my experiences with shrooms. Being approached by an entity, becoming a being of light. I feel like DMT is more of a meditation thing for me, allowing me to stare into my very existence.

I like this.  I'm not sure I would say I stare into my existence, because by the time my perception's bent fully around so I can look myself in the eye, my existence is utterly shattered.  I stare into my potential for existence, or better: the equipotential of existence and nonexistence which 'I' inhabit. -_o

@Edawg: With every trip I have, I see my death.  She is probably what you are calling a 'goddess'.  She takes 5 distinct forms, but she always looks generally like a woman (or a nymph, or a crone, etc).  She's shown me the riddle and the answer countless times through her antics.  Although I do have new trips, I find I keep having the same several over and over.

Anyway, from the tenor of this thread, I must really be a light-weight.  My threshold for 'breakthrough' is only about 10--15mg.  I also usually mix the DMT about 50/50 with salvia, and so this might have something to do with it (these two complement one another extremely well).  I can dose heavier on DMT, but dosing much heavier tends to degrade the visuals.  The time I had the weird candy-coloured trip (described on the last page), I reckon I had only smoked about 50mg (it's hard to say ... I had loaded about twice that, but then had about 4 more trips just off the frost on my glass).  I have finally invested in a milligram scale, and so I'll be keeping precise track of weights (once I smoke all the crystal off my glass again -_o).

@DMTisinME: I wasn't mentioning disbelief in morality as a BAD thing.  I personally am not ashamed to say I have no morals ... in fact, I'm proud of it.  I do have a sense of ethics, but that's different.  Here's how I mean those words:

Morals - the rules you live by for everybody's sake (this is about taking responsibility for others' experience)
Ethics - the rules you live by for your own sake (this is about taking responsibility for your own experience)

The last vestige of my morality was crushed by my first DMT trip.  Fortunately for the rest of the universe, my desire was destroyed at the same time.  For quite a while I thought DMT had killed my ability to emote, but the simple fact was my desires had been driving my emotions with the force of a jackhammer.  It took a while to readjust my tolerance to really appreciate the beauty and subtlety of emotions which weren't pummeled into my mind by rampant desires.

Of course, I don't live totally free of desire: I invent silly little desires I only half let myself believe in just to keep myself doing shit.  But I'm not really tricked by my own ploy, and genuinely not wanting anything makes the morality which I also lack obsolete.  This is good, because it's not hard to see that morality is just a 'bullshit story' as George Carlin would have said.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 15 March 2013, 04:19:56
@Poisonouss, hahaha i meant it more of a joke, i truly LOVE dmt...it has shown me the most beautiful and personal and introspective things ever.  But...IDK...i used it like every night for months brotha...like i'm talking i was the guy that like took it and just RAN with it.  I LOVED DMT....personally i rank it as the BEST psychedelic out there.  Its so powerful, so beautiful, and SO QUICK!... i hate long drawn out trips where you have heavy body loads the next day.

With DMT BAM to the next dimension, BAM back....no body load...

TBH sir i don't know why i stopped doing DMT ...because though the experience scarred me a bit....i think i went as far as i possibly could and i am i think to much of a control freak... and it seemed i lost COMPLETE sense of self and consciousness that last time.

Either way, I'm going to go again...its timing now though...maybe on a Las Vegas trip when im in the desert under the stars...or next camping trip by the fire...either way i need to be at peace in my head and heart to have those kind of rides now, life's stresses will ruin the trip for me.

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 15 March 2013, 04:23:03
@ Great Green Arkleseizure, wow man if you are that receptive to small amounts i wonder what would happen if you took a strong dose =P...just wait brother... it sounds like you can still comprehend what you are seeing...wait till nothing makes sense anymore and your like in a spaceship or Aztec temple chilling with god for all I'm concerned LMAO

Best drug ever hands down!

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 15 March 2013, 06:09:15
I am so jealous of these trip reports and eloquent insights you guys seem to be able to bring back.
On higher doses I do seem to be sucked into something and then simply spat out back with my memory wiped out.
Do I do something wrong?

Also, for the benefit of those newbs reading this ... How do you all smoke it?
I see people using al the different types of pipes and vapourisers. I also see that many of you mix it with salvia or weed.

May be I should reconsider me using the machine and taking it pure?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 15 March 2013, 09:09:10
Years ago, after I first started smoking DMT, I had a recurrent dream.  The dream only started once ... the recurrent part was the end.  The end of the dream happened this way: there are two adolescent (15-ish) girls together in a bathtub (don't get too excited ... this isn't going where you think -_o).  They were identical in every way except one of them had a shard of glass (from the shower door, apparently) behind her back and would at any moment stab the other girl in the heart with it.  I was the other girl. 

This whole sequence was a game with one move: I could trade places with the other girl at will.  I would just fuzz out my ego and turn something in my mind and we'd switch bodies.  Because of the way I achieved the swap, I could never know when I was the girl with the glass, and I could never be the one who did the stabbing.  The goal for me was twofold: to confuse my adversary---as I traded bodies with her, she would also become confused about which of us was which and would hesitate to stab me (this hesitation could be prolonged by continuing to swap)---and eventually to swap bodies just as she stabbed so that I wouldn't be the one who died.  I had this dream many times, and it ended differently each time (the first time I died, not knowing she was going to stab me ... most of the time I succeeded in confusing her and woke up before the stabbing took place).

The point of telling you about this dream is that it exactly mirrors my relationship with my death.  She has always had all the weapons, but I can trade places with her.  Thus, each time I smoked DMT, I would trade places with my death, and through doing so mix with her.  By now, we have become one another so many times our essences are thoroughly mixed.

I just came back from an encounter with my death.  Partly because of what Edawg was saying and partly because I was excited to try out my new scale, I didn't wait to clean my glass and weighed out 25mg of DMT into my pipe.  As usual, I meditated my way into the trip (I was coming from a good place and focusing my intent on a question my recent pharma/LSD trip had left me with).  When it came time to smoke, I took as much as I could.  The trip began to unfold as usual, when suddenly my death came tumbling out of my visions into the room with me.

For the first time, my death felt more masculine than feminine, and was essentially a very sharp (as in pointy), androgynous, and extravagantly-dressed copy of myself. I was aware that we had mixed to the point of being practically identical.  My death was in a cantankerous mood, and we wrestled.  When the fight ended, I was cognisant that he/she had won and had taken back the balance of power which I had slowly wheedled away from it over the course of many trips.  The trip continued for a while and the whole time, I was poignantly conscious that I'd taken too much DMT.

I had completely forgotten about it, but this had happened once before (minus the maleness) early in my experimentation with DMT.  This problem of my death's hostility toward me was the reason I started adding salvia (yerba maria) to the mix ... only it'd been so long since I'd had any trouble, I'd forgotten the necessity of it.  Yerba Maria is a powerful ally of mine (I know I'm speaking Castaneda again ... get over it), and she protects me and gives me the strength to face down my death.  This is the reason for adding salvia to my smoking mix as well as to other trips.

Since I vape the DMT (from an oil pipe), it might seem silly to include salvia.  It is a secondary presence, but definitely there.  My theory is that when the DMT liquifies, it is infused with salvorin from the leaves.  It is also possible that the salvorin simply sublimates from the savlia leaves when heated.  Either way, it's there to give me strength and introduce a presence that's much friendlier toward me than the DMT.  I know a lot of people choose to use cannabis instead.  To my mind, this serves a different function.  I used to like to smoke weed before my DMT/salvia mix as it sort of cushioned the whole experience ... but cannabis and I have almost entirely parted ways since my life now demands that I be sharp most of the time.

Conclusions from this experience:
(1) I will always include salvia in my trips from now on;
(2) I'm going to stick to my 15mg doses, since I still easily break through, have better trips, and my DMT also lasts longer (sorry, Edawg);
(3) I'm going back again tonight, ready to do battle this time.  I just can't leave things where they lie.  Wish me luck.

UPDATE:  Too many words already.  I just want to say: I am an idiot to ever think I could overcome my death or even win ground from her.  She will always triumph over me.  And she deserves to.  And I love her passionately for it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 15 March 2013, 09:30:30
Don't let the negative karma discourage you in doing whatever you are doing. I +1 ed you for the initiative you took and hope to see this thread taking good shape and direction indue course of time.

Thank you.  I didn't mean to whinge about it ... it just bothered me a bit that I didn't even know what I'd said to offend people.  I haven't been here long, but I really enjoy this community and feel very accepted already.  Thanks to everyone for that.  Cheers.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Bootyslayer on 15 March 2013, 11:52:15
Hello experienced folk :-)

Any opinions either way on mahakala ?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Bootyslayer on 15 March 2013, 14:56:39
Scratch that he is out of stock, how about Evilution ?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 15 March 2013, 16:50:45
@ DMTisinME, bro....me, and EVERYBODY that has ever done DMT with me before when i used the sandwich method, even the GVG (although this works perfectly fine also) when we used the volcano though it feels like a whole new experience.

My response to this: why, WHY?! did I sell my volcano??
I know it sounds awesome and quite frankly it was, but holy shit anything that has that much power over my mind...well i shouldn't be fucking with it....

It sorta sounds like you aren't a big proponent of DMT anymore, especially with that last sentence. Idk, my trips are more introspective and deep, (trying hard not to be pretentious here) than just trippy. I feel like I discover things about myself I never would have known otherwise and it's such a humbling experience, imho, your experiences sound more like my experiences with shrooms. Being approached by an entity, becoming a being of light. I feel like DMT is more of a meditation thing for me, allowing me to stare into my very existence.

@DMTisinME: I wasn't mentioning disbelief in morality as a BAD thing.  I personally am not ashamed to say I have no morals ... in fact, I'm proud of it.  I do have a sense of ethics, but that's different.  Here's how I mean those words:

Morals - the rules you live by for everybody's sake (this is about taking responsibility for others' experience)
Ethics - the rules you live by for your own sake (this is about taking responsibility for your own experience)

OK, then I completely agree. I always say, "if you can't define your morals by yourself, then you have none." On another note, I feel that I could make myself completely devoid of ethics or morals and not feel guilt if I wanted, but I just feel so much better/happier living peacefully -- I just don't have an inherent desire to harm others. Feeling better than others doesn't make me feel good, you know, I get pleasure from being better than who I was yesterday. I feel that many people just act "moral" to say that they are a better person than the person standing next to them, which kind of contradicts the whole point.

But in terms of the definition, I think that they can be used interchangeably, it just depends on who you are  talking about. Like the morals/ethics of a society vs. the morals/ethics of an individual. But I like how you defined exactly what you meant -- what you actually say doesn't really matter, only what you are trying to say. I mean that's what the whole point of language is -- to express you meaning. Which is something that makes DMT absolutely amazing, it gives you the ability to communicate without language while in the deep space with those entities, which is something quite magical. 

Either way, I'm going to go again...its timing now though...maybe on a Las Vegas trip when im in the desert under the stars...or next camping trip by the fire...either way i need to be at peace in my head and heart to have those kind of rides now, life's stresses will ruin the trip for me.

DMT, among all psychedelics, shouldn't be overdone. It is, as you say, all about timing. I should clarify "overdone." I don't really think you can do them too much -- as long as you are in the right mindset everytime -- but you should never do them if your mind isn't prepared/open to it. ~Trip Responsibly. (How long til we see that on an ad, if ever?)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Poisonouss on 15 March 2013, 17:33:21
Don't let the negative karma discourage you in doing whatever you are doing. I +1 ed you for the initiative you took and hope to see this thread taking good shape and direction indue course of time.

Thank you.  I didn't mean to whinge about it ... it just bothered me a bit that I didn't even know what I'd said to offend people.  I haven't been here long, but I really enjoy this community and feel very accepted already.  Thanks to everyone for that.  Cheers.

You get folks from all walks of life here. Depending on the drug you want to discuss/explore you might attract certain types of folks. DMT, Shroom  and ACID heads seem to be bit more enlightened than the other drug users :)

Haha, +1, agree completely. I think it comes with the experience the drugs bring. As GGA described it, letting go of all desires. Which is actually a very central part of Buddhism.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: lesseroftwoweevils on 15 March 2013, 19:59:56
Just wanted to let everyone know that my Dutch MHRB source came through for me. Here are their prices:

50g - $15 (root bark) $17 (powdered) + S&H
500g - $96.50 + S&H
1000g - $165.50 + S&H

Another Silk Roader was also kind enough to link me to another seemingly legit Dutch source selling it for quite a bit cheaper, although he said he had to sign for it. He also said something about there potentially being free S&H, but that the offer might be closed at this time.

100g - $19.50 + S&H (powdered)
500g - $59 + S&H
1000g - $103 + S&H 

I'll probably be giving the latter a try the next time I order MHRB. If you're interested in ordering from either, drop me a PM and I'll send you the links.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: anonman88 on 15 March 2013, 23:03:51
just placed an order for a gram from moon unit and a sample from curiosity1 :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 16 March 2013, 02:03:27
So I went back to the spot where I had my pharma/LSD trip almost a week ago.  The place itself is simply incredible.  Every time I go there, I feel like I'm starting to trip ... even when I haven't taken anything.  I went there today to smoke my DMT/salvia mixture.  I was entirely sober when I arrived, but everything turned sort of shiny and I really felt like I was tripping (call it a flashback if you like).

[What follows refers to a trip which I reported on here (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=130501.msg890948#msg890948).]

When I took my hit, things suddenly began to change (as they do).  I was confronted with the choice between closing my eyes and 'breaking through' or leaving them open and tripping on the place.  I left them open.  I withdrew into myself, as though there were an additional level of remove between myself and my experience ... like all my experiences were being fed to me through a sort of virtual reality simulation.  Not only had this idea been present in my trip of a week ago, but I recalled on the way home while coming down that before the trip began (while I was tripping on salvia and beginning to come up on the acid), I had felt like everything was a movie.  A hyper-realistic movie I was making and watching at the same time.  It dawned on me after a moment that the thing this movie was lacking was a villain.  Clearly, I later invented one for my film, even though I hadn't at the time remembered this thought.

The effect of this trip was much 'shroomier' than I'd expected.  I even had some nausea when I got up (this was not the usual sitting-still kind of DMT trip).  The experience helped me to isolate the effect the pharma had had on Saturday.  In fact, when I now look back at the 'ramping up' stage of the trip, although my initial report said this felt just like a heavy acid come-up, I've realised that the previous acid trips I'd been comparing this to in my mind had been times that I mixed LSD and shrooms.  The pharma presence was there all along ... until it wasn't. -_o The tail end of the trip really was pure acid as I said before.  I don't take that part back.

What's interesting to me is this is a very different type of DMT experience than I'm used to.  I have usually smoked it in a dark room or outside at night away from any light.  This produces a fully immersive hallucinatory experience and 'breakthrough'.  I will probably continue to do this more often than not, but I'm glad to have seen another side to this drug.  Also: I've ordered more syrian rue, and will be making much more extract. I'm very excited for my next pharma experience ... but I won't have a chance again for at least a month.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 16 March 2013, 02:12:33
This has nothing to do with the previous post, but randomly occurred to me.  This is a 'best practises' tip for the newbies:

Always pee before you push off.  An urge to urinate too slight to even notice while sober will become an intense discomfort while you're tripping.  And since getting up to go relieve yourself mid-trip is generally out of the question, you'll have to live with that sensation for the entire trip.  It's unpleasant and takes you away from the experience you're trying to have, so take care of this ahead of time.

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 16 March 2013, 03:13:54
This has nothing to do with the previous post, but randomly occurred to me.  This is a 'best practises' tip for the newbies:

Always pee before you push off.  An urge to urinate too slight to even notice while sober will become an intense discomfort while you're tripping.  And since getting up to go relieve yourself mid-trip is generally out of the question, you'll have to live with that sensation for the entire trip.  It's unpleasant and takes you away from the experience you're trying to have, so take care of this ahead of time.

haha, yes make sure you are good to go physically as  well as mentally.  ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 16 March 2013, 07:18:42
Years ago, after I first started smoking DMT, I had a recurrent dream.  The dream only started once ... the recurrent part was the end.  The end of the dream happened this way: there are two adolescent (15-ish) girls together in a bathtub (don't get too excited ... this isn't going where you think -_o).  They were identical in every way except one of them had a shard of glass (from the shower door, apparently) behind her back and would at any moment stab the other girl in the heart with it.  I was the other girl. 

This whole sequence was a game with one move: I could trade places with the other girl at will.  I would just fuzz out my ego and turn something in my mind and we'd switch bodies.  Because of the way I achieved the swap, I could never know when I was the girl with the glass, and I could never be the one who did the stabbing.  The goal for me was twofold: to confuse my adversary---as I traded bodies with her, she would also become confused about which of us was which and would hesitate to stab me (this hesitation could be prolonged by continuing to swap)---and eventually to swap bodies just as she stabbed so that I wouldn't be the one who died.  I had this dream many times, and it ended differently each time (the first time I died, not knowing she was going to stab me ... most of the time I succeeded in confusing her and woke up before the stabbing took place).

The point of telling you about this dream is that it exactly mirrors my relationship with my death.  She has always had all the weapons, but I can trade places with her.  Thus, each time I smoked DMT, I would trade places with my death, and through doing so mix with her.  By now, we have become one another so many times our essences are thoroughly mixed.

I just came back from an encounter with my death.  Partly because of what Edawg was saying and partly because I was excited to try out my new scale, I didn't wait to clean my glass and weighed out 25mg of DMT into my pipe.  As usual, I meditated my way into the trip (I was coming from a good place and focusing my intent on a question my recent pharma/LSD trip had left me with).  When it came time to smoke, I took as much as I could.  The trip began to unfold as usual, when suddenly my death came tumbling out of my visions into the room with me.

For the first time, my death felt more masculine than feminine, and was essentially a very sharp (as in pointy), androgynous, and extravagantly-dressed copy of myself. I was aware that we had mixed to the point of being practically identical.  My death was in a cantankerous mood, and we wrestled.  When the fight ended, I was cognisant that he/she had won and had taken back the balance of power which I had slowly wheedled away from it over the course of many trips.  The trip continued for a while and the whole time, I was poignantly conscious that I'd taken too much DMT.

I had completely forgotten about it, but this had happened once before (minus the maleness) early in my experimentation with DMT.  This problem of my death's hostility toward me was the reason I started adding salvia (yerba maria) to the mix ... only it'd been so long since I'd had any trouble, I'd forgotten the necessity of it.  Yerba Maria is a powerful ally of mine (I know I'm speaking Castaneda again ... get over it), and she protects me and gives me the strength to face down my death.  This is the reason for adding salvia to my smoking mix as well as to other trips.

Since I vape the DMT (from an oil pipe), it might seem silly to include salvia.  It is a secondary presence, but definitely there.  My theory is that when the DMT liquifies, it is infused with salvorin from the leaves.  It is also possible that the salvorin simply sublimates from the savlia leaves when heated.  Either way, it's there to give me strength and introduce a presence that's much friendlier toward me than the DMT.  I know a lot of people choose to use cannabis instead.  To my mind, this serves a different function.  I used to like to smoke weed before my DMT/salvia mix as it sort of cushioned the whole experience ... but cannabis and I have almost entirely parted ways since my life now demands that I be sharp most of the time.

Conclusions from this experience:
(1) I will always include salvia in my trips from now on;
(2) I'm going to stick to my 15mg doses, since I still easily break through, have better trips, and my DMT also lasts longer (sorry, Edawg);
(3) I'm going back again tonight, ready to do battle this time.  I just can't leave things where they lie.  Wish me luck.

UPDATE:  Too many words already.  I just want to say: I am an idiot to ever think I could overcome my death or even win ground from her.  She will always triumph over me.  And she deserves to.  And I love her passionately for it.

He-he! This is some quality puzzle you have invented for yourself.
I read this sitting on the edge of my seat :-)

+1

Is this purely DMT-related theme or do you get this on other substances or when you are sober?

On your outdoor experience - must be amazing. The best part of my ayahuasca experience was the sound of the jungle around me - truly amazing! I should try it with smoking. Need to think of how I can add salvia to the machine ... Not keen to go back to pipes and no money for GVG.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 16 March 2013, 08:06:36
On your outdoor experience - must be amazing. The best part of my ayahuasca experience was the sound of the jungle around me - truly amazing! I should try it with smoking. Need to think of how I can add salvia to the machine ... Not keen to go back to pipes and no money for GVG.

I'm not totally clear on what the machine is.  It sounds like a homemade vape.  If so, it should handle salvia just fine.  The salvorin vapes fine in my glass oil pipe (again, not entirely sure whether it is absorbed by the liquid DMT or sublimates ... but either way).  Any kind of electric vape you have ought to do salvia easily.

Regarding my experiences at the falls: I spent the evening in a very bubbly good humour (I even wrote up some comedic material).  My experiences today together with my trip on Saturday and the scouting expedition the previous day have convinced me that this is a power place.  I will be going back there as often as possible for as long as I remain living here.  It makes me so overjoyed to be part of this whole existence/awareness experiment.

Is this purely DMT-related theme or do you get this on other substances or when you are sober?

The dream I described was not directly drug-induced.  It was related to my DMT experiences and not so much to other drug trips.  Although I've experienced ego death on many drugs, my death, as I've described her, is unique to my (smoked) DMT experiences.  On other drugs, I've experienced empathic identification with other beings, but the only being I've ever actually 'swapped' with is my death (and that's because we're actually the same being seen from different ends).  I hope that answers your question.  If not, I'll take some time to do it when I'm not so tired.  I had a slough of very remarkable dreams right after I started smoking DMT though.

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 16 March 2013, 08:22:35

I'm not totally clear on what the machine is.  It sounds like a homemade vape.  If so, it should handle salvia just fine.  The salvorin vapes fine in my glass oil pipe (again, not entirely sure whether it is absorbed by the liquid DMT or sublimates ... but either way).  Any kind of electric vape you have ought to do salvia easily.

Regarding my experiences at the falls: I spent the evening in a very bubbly good humour (I even wrote up some comedic material).  My experiences today together with my trip on Saturday and the scouting expedition the previous day have convinced me that this is a power place.  I will be going back there as often as possible for as long as I remain living here.  It makes me so overjoyed to be part of this whole existence/awareness experiment.

Is this purely DMT-related theme or do you get this on other substances or when you are sober?

The dream I described was not directly drug-induced.  It was related to my DMT experiences and not so much to other drug trips.  Although I've experienced ego death on many drugs, my death, as I've described her, is unique to my (smoked) DMT experiences.  On other drugs, I've experienced empathic identification with other beings, but the only being I've ever actually 'swapped' with is my death (and that's because we're actually the same being seen from different ends).  I hope that answers your question.  If not, I'll take some time to do it when I'm not so tired.  I had a slough of very remarkable dreams right after I started smoking DMT though.


The machine is quite an incredible device once one figures out that DMT melting point is around 40 degrees and that smoking it as most other substances simply burns large part of it making it taste faul. Here is the link to the machine how-to + many a photo.

http://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/The_Machine

The reason why it works extremely well at vaping DMT is the fact that when DMT melts on the metal mesh it runs away from the flame while being rapidly heated and vapourises without getting to burning state. Bernulli law helps to make it really efficient at vaping AND cooling of the vapour before it hits your lungs - so making it simply to hold down and dose fairly quickly. Slowly inhaling thru the bottle allows you to really take whatever quantity you have loaded into it in one go.

And, as you can see, it does cost virtually nothing to make :)

UPDATE: Could not help but notice that the vendor who supplied me with my first one on my first ever purchase of DMT, which was from him.  http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/95b92f8df9
Good price for DMT too!
He does not have The Machine listed on SR, but if you look at his listings on BMR you will be able to order it separately with your order.


So, it is this thing that I use and I am not sure how to fit salvia here ... unless I can push mesh a bit in and fit it a bit of salvia on top of the mesh above DMT?

And I am very jealous of your waterfall arrangement - I wish I had one like that handy some place close

Have a great weekend!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: gingerballs on 16 March 2013, 08:40:38
people say the GVG is great with DMT,  but i don't hear much about the classic vaporgenie - i know it's not as effective as the GVG, but how effective is it? i have one coming on the way.

btw, since my 600UG LSD trip a month ago, i started getting more into meditation and i've been reading a few books. for those of you psychonauts who are interested in the nature of everything, i'd recommend you consider a turn to meditation. based on what i've read in these books, you basically achieve similar effects - but it's even better.

on a personal level, i don't want to continue doing drugs for too long; i think i prefer investing in meditation since it allows you to explore deeper into the subconscious or whatever you want to call it. i'm kind of struggling back and forth whether i should continue with my DMT experience, but i think i'm going to push through with it (though carefully). i don't mean to guilt anyone (or even myself), since psychadelics are amazing in showing you the true nature of the universe.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 16 March 2013, 16:01:31
people say the GVG is great with DMT,  but i don't hear much about the classic vaporgenie - i know it's not as effective as the GVG, but how effective is it? i have one coming on the way.

btw, since my 600UG LSD trip a month ago, i started getting more into meditation and i've been reading a few books. for those of you psychonauts who are interested in the nature of everything, i'd recommend you consider a turn to meditation. based on what i've read in these books, you basically achieve similar effects - but it's even better.

on a personal level, i don't want to continue doing drugs for too long; i think i prefer investing in meditation since it allows you to explore deeper into the subconscious or whatever you want to call it. i'm kind of struggling back and forth whether i should continue with my DMT experience, but i think i'm going to push through with it (though carefully). i don't mean to guilt anyone (or even myself), since psychadelics are amazing in showing you the true nature of the universe.

Some say that meditation and psychedelics can bring you to the same place, but you actually feel like you've truly earned it through meditation -- after all, "it's the journey, not the destination," that is truly important.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 16 March 2013, 16:22:27
Last night, I smoked roughly 20-25mg but perhaps a little lower of rogerpete's DMT. I used the sandwich method out of my bubbler, and when I do this I don't usually bother to weight it. I just put a light layer over the bottom bedding covering all of it. I took three good hits (looked like I got all of it) and laid back and the vision began to materialize.

   The first thing I remember was being in a light purple room that was fairly big and gridded with white lines, but there was a DMT goddess face to face with me and she was floating flat (like Superman taking a dive) so that I could only see her face and shoulders. This continued for longer than I thought it would and I honestly thought. “Get the hell out of my way! I’m going in.” After I immediately worried that I may have upset her and the other entities, which can produce no good. So then I relaxed to my fullest extent, and we began to fly through the room, her finally out of my face toward a huge table (also purple) now with her out of the way I was trying to gauge the size of the room, but noticed it was growing larger and larger with the table or more likely I was growing smaller and smaller as a moved down past the table.

   I left this place and the trip picked up in speed and intensity. I was in a “fun house” full of entities at this point, all pranksters. They weren’t moving anywhere, but the actions they did, they were going at a very quick speed. I was being swept through the place and the ones that stick out to me was these three psychiatrist looking entities (they looked exactly like people too) that were fanning out card that had different colors on them, at a ridiculous speed, in unison. Then toward the end I went to a kitchen with what I think was a refrigerator, and as I was looking at it, a black man who was like the type of thing that would be made out of play clay (you know with the noodle hair that was sticking straight up) got all up in my face and I’m not sure but I think he didn’t really have eyes or facial features, and if he did the person who made this guys just fucked up. Then I flew over to the kitchen wall which was a dark cement gray, I comparison to the rainbow of colors earlier and that was all my vision was, a grey, gravely wall.

   I took this to mean the end of the experience and opened my eyes. There was definitely still some aspects of “hyper-reality” present and I had good open eye visuals for what  I guess would be a minute longer.

   Time in hyperspace: 3.5-4 minutes. Time tripping after: 1-2 minutes

What to take from this: rogerpete is the fucking man. His ship time was crazy -- I ordered last Thursday, here by last Saturday. The stuff was totally quality. I saw someone say that his DMT was harsher on the throat, but it was not so at all, quite gentle. I'm gonna keep up my, "tests" of his stuff. Good to be back to DMT, I hadn't realized how much I missed dimitri the past few months.

@Great Green Arlkeseizure: I'd suggest splitting out the vendors into different sects of good -- maybe call the "great" vendors Holy Men of DMT or something like that, then "good," then "bad." Also, having the links to their vendor page and their review page (if they have one) is very helpful. Maybe we could keep a count on the number of "product certifications" they have from established forum users within the last 45 days or so.

Keep up the good work, GGA.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Joey Terrifying on 16 March 2013, 16:31:57
subscribing to this thread

i am experienced and own a GVG.  happy to test anyone's warez :) 
i'm running low on the yield from my last extraction and am now having trouble sourcing MHRB.  I've been thinking that i'll just start buying DMT on silk road instead of going through the extraction process.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 16 March 2013, 20:32:43
Just made 100, so I had a little catching up to do.

+1 to DMTisinME for being generally cool over the many times our paths have already crossed on these forums.

+1 to lesseroftwoweevils for being awesome enough to share your MHRB sources with us.

+1 to incogmagnito just because I like you ... I feel your humility when you speak and that's rare thing these days.  Especially in my line of work, everyone thinks he's the ever-loving shit ... and it's refreshing to talk with someone who doesn't feel he has anything to lose by admitting that he doesn't know everything.

@incogmagnito: If I'm understanding correctly, you're just sucking heated air through the machine to achieve vapourisation.  What kind of torch are you using to heat the air?  I have actually never scorched my DMT (I never did the 'sandwich method' for instance) and the lowish temps required to vape the DMT have also worked for salvia.  If you can get the salvia to stay in the mesh I think you should be able to vape it.

The larger problem is cleaning.  Unlike DMT, vaping salvia leaves behind bits of leaf, which will get caught in your mesh and begin to clog it.  I don't envy the task of cleaning the mesh ... but if it's worth it to you, you could just replace your mesh every so often.  Really, it depends on how much you actually like the effect the salvia has on the trip ... which you'll have to try it once to find out. -_o

@ DMTisinME: I'd love to include all of that info.  I'll make a point to find these vendors and link their pages sometime soon.  In terms of rating the vendors in the way you suggest, I simply don't know enough.  There's a very definite limit to the accuracy with which we can rate these guys at the moment.  I do hope to get there, though, and I'm sure rogerpete will be one of the first to make our 'star' list (or 'holy men' list if you like).  For the sake of getting us there, more people should submit detailed and thorough reviews like yours rather than just saying, 'yeah, he's good.'  It may also be time for us to start thinking about endorsing certain trusted reviewers.

EDIT: Regarding the 'endorsed reviewer' idea, I'd be happy for you to be one.  Of course, we'll have to let others sound in on this. -_o

Maybe we could keep a count on the number of "product certifications" they have from established forum users within the last 45 days or so.

This is going to be quite a pain.  It's definitely doable to create a spreadsheet that would automatically total the last 45 days, but still I'd have to enter the tally every day and  update the OP with the new numbers.  The kicker is: I don't have any spreadsheet software on my computer.  On the rare occasion I need to make a spreadsheet, I use google or other online-hosted spreadsheet plugins.  It'd be nice if we had a more automated system, but that would mean scripts and so won't work here.  However, if you have better ideas about making this happen, please share.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 17 March 2013, 00:06:05
@ DMTisinME: I'd love to include all of that info.  I'll make a point to find these vendors and link their pages sometime soon.  In terms of rating the vendors in the way you suggest, I simply don't know enough.  There's a very definite limit to the accuracy with which we can rate these guys at the moment.  I do hope to get there, though, and I'm sure rogerpete will be one of the first to make our 'star' list (or 'holy men' list if you like).  For the sake of getting us there, more people should submit detailed and thorough reviews like yours rather than just saying, 'yeah, he's good.'  It may also be time for us to start thinking about endorsing certain trusted reviewers.

EDIT: Regarding the 'endorsed reviewer' idea, I'd be happy for you to be one.  Of course, we'll have to let others sound in on this. -_o

Yeah, we definitely need more data, I just meant down the line. And on the "holy men" I just said that to be different from the Avengers thread, but that's kind of pointless since this is essentially a rip-off of their initiative. Any superlative work just fine.  ;D
Maybe we could keep a count on the number of "product certifications" they have from established forum users within the last 45 days or so.

This is going to be quite a pain.  It's definitely doable to create a spreadsheet that would automatically total the last 45 days, but still I'd have to enter the tally every day and  update the OP with the new numbers.  The kicker is: I don't have any spreadsheet software on my computer.  On the rare occasion I need to make a spreadsheet, I use google or other online-hosted spreadsheet plugins.  It'd be nice if we had a more automated system, but that would mean scripts and so won't work here.  However, if you have better ideas about making this happen, please share.
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I don't know if I was serious, more like I was "thinking aloud." Because that would be a hell of a job. Way too much work. I don't think an actual number matters, maybe just that the vendors have reached a general bar for excellence we set and then after that just make sure their service doesn't slip up.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 17 March 2013, 06:05:32
Some say that meditation and psychedelics can bring you to the same place, but you actually feel like you've truly earned it through meditation -- after all, "it's the journey, not the destination," that is truly important.

There is definitely a sense in which drugs are a cheat for a process that used to take years to achieve ... and I'm a proud cheater. -_o  The thing is, the rules you 'cheat' by taking this route are just bullshit people made up.  When you look at it, even the reasoning behind these rules is completely befuddled and stupid.  There's no shame in taking drugs to achieve the respective states they represent, but those only go so far.

When it comes to chess or wei chi, I don't cheat because I'd be cheating myself out of the experience and the challenge.  When it comes to life, I have absolutely no compunction about cheating my way into appreciating it more.  As I said before, I do in fact practise meditation and mysticism.  Unlike cheating at a game, mysticism is in fact a matter of rising to the challenge.

While it's true that my experiences with psychedelics brought me to this practise, they are not a substitute for it.  The real reason to silence your mind (for instance) is to attain mastery over it ... no drugs or external influence can possibly do this for you.  As you take command of your experience, you'll find that drugs can show the way, but it's up to you to get there.  Said another way, there is a consciousness BEYOND the drug experience, but only you can get yourself there.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 17 March 2013, 07:40:43
@GGA Thank you - flattered.
On vendors - I value two bits of info on them - NO (ideally)reports of scamming and few people vouching for their product quality. So, having a list that has most frequently positively mentioned vendors on top is totally right (just as you had in OP few days back). But I would add a list of those who scam (if god forbid those reports start coming thru) to save newbs from getting disappointing experience. It also helps to coordinate taking down of vendor efforts as we had to do with Deadman few weeks back.

I had a very gentle and friendly one last night on dmtnexus'es stuff - I really like his wares for being more gentle and slightly more natural/earthy than some other whiter stuff I have tried. I took about 20 mg in one toke and while remember inhaling (the machine is really gentle when it comes to smoke's taste and temperature) exhaling must have happened after my departure :-) again, on return I have no recollection of where I was and what happened there - I did meditate before (well, I have tried to focus in my breathing for 10 minutes) and I do have a feeling that I had the same moment I sometimes have on acid "this is really interesting - incog, you must bring this back". I think I am going to give up on trying to bring anything back - it might simply resist it to humble me. May be being humble will trick it into showing its face :-)

On you philosophical theme I am of an opinion that there is nothing wrong in short-cutting a path to insight via the use of substances, but in my experience this devalues that insight in short-cutter eyes. If you like the glimps of what you see - embark on the path ASAP because the path will make your eventual arrival into the same place few years later a LOT more rewarding! I liken it to an experience of spending few weeks climbing some tough mountain and finally getting to the top to see a helicopter circling around the summit. I am sure by being there they have attained some insight, satisfaction, sence of achievement. You and them are in the same place, but can they really understand how different you are being there because of the path that taken you there?

Glad you all here encouraged me further into meditation ... This is possibly the beginning of an "unaided" path for me. On a downer side - read or watch some documentary materials on Bardo Todol - Tibetan Book of the Dead. I am sure that practicing monks were attaining those insights thru meditations going thru ego death, etc. but it took them 40 years of meditative practices to get there. Do I have a chance?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: gingerballs on 17 March 2013, 08:07:57
i just tried vaping my DMT from rogerpete with a classic vaporgenie and it works quite well - i thought there would be more of a learning curve, but it's quite simple to use. the vapor, however, is much more harsh compared to using a volcano.. my problem with using the volcano was that the bag was too big, and it required 5 big hits to use up all 40 MG. also, i had to use copper mesh to prevent the spice from falling through the screen. anyway, i got a pretty good deal for the classic vaporgenie, so i'm happy with the purchase.

with meditation vs. psychadelics.. i do feel a little guilt for taking the shortcut, but im also investing in meditation and, really, i don't think i should even feel bad about using substances. LSD is the impetus for many peoples' path to spirituality and meditation after all. i've been reading some books and, imo, based on what i'm reading at least, psychadelics show you the nature of things.. but you don't learn as much and you aren't fully capable of comprehending what you experience.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 17 March 2013, 08:56:31
The only DMT vendor I know of who was scamming was ETM.  I don't think he's still around, but I'll put a note in the OP just in case.

I am sure that practicing monks were attaining those insights thru meditations going thru ego death, etc. but it took them 40 years of meditative practices to get there. Do I have a chance?

I am not a Buddhist (although the difference in outlook between me and a Buddhist is subtle).  I consider myself a Taoist, but I am also (as you've probably noticed) a Castaneda-phile (I gather the correct term is 'nagualist').  It matters very little whether 'Toltec' knowledge means anything in particular to you, if you take an anthropological look around, you'll find that psychedelics play a key role along the path to knowledge in many more enlightened cultures.

In light of your mountain analogy, let me propose a modification: the mountain in question is Everest (I don't exactly disagree with your analogy ... but I feel like modifying it to make my point again anyway -_o).  Helicopters cannot fly over the summit because the atmosphere is too thin and the winds too strong.  The place where the helicopter gets you is only part-way up ... not even half (this is true in the analogy ... not sure how far up Everest helicopters can actually fly -_o).  Thus, the 'cheater' and the climber meet at a point where they both have thousands of more vertical feet to go, not at the summit.

There is certainly a difference between the two in terms of the experience they've had to get there ... but the more practical difference is in the strength each has to complete the climb.  There isn't anything wrong with getting lifted in part-way up the climb, but if that's all you ever do, you'll never make it to the summit.  Your muscles need developing and no amount of machinery will achieve for you the strength required to get to the top.

Psychedelics give you an idea of where you're headed and can be used to give you an extra burst of altitude to see beyond where you can climb to on your own at any given moment, but they won't ever take you all the way.  All the same, this doesn't detract from what they do.  I do believe they allow one to journey further down the path to enlightenment in a shorter time if they're used correctly ... but beware ideas about 'getting there' as this is an illusion in every conceivable context.

Don't feel bad about your blockage ... when it's time, you'll remember.  Do you want to know about my first time?  I know I've said a lot of positive things about when I started smoking DMT, but my first breakthrough wasn't a pleasant experience.  My special time is 12:34AM.  Not sure why, but I always notice the clock at that time ... and I mean for years I've noticed this anomaly.  Out of a sense of poetry, I waited until 12:34AM to put on 'Asilos Magdalena' and smoke the DMT.  'Amputechture' had just been released at the time, and this was my favourite song on the album (it had yet to become my 'death anthem').

I smoked and I met my death for the first time.  At first she was a vase and then she was a madonna, and she was so beautiful, but at the same time devastating.  At the same time as I saw her, I had the impression of seeing everything in existence and I saw the simple, trivial truth to it all.  In part it was because this was only my second ego death, but I couldn't handle this knowledge.  I came to myself curled up fetal on the ground, wanting to cry and begging the spirit to take the memory of this experience away, which it obligingly did.

This experience disturbed me profoundly.  I could remember a couple of images and I knew I had seen it all, seen what happens when you die.  Of course, I remembered coming out of it, and so I knew I hadn't been able to deal with this knowledge.  It only took a couple of days living with that hanging over my head to get up the nerve to try it again.  It's not that I even wanted to ... but whatever was out there, I'd have to deal with it eventually, and it couldn't possibly be worth spending the rest of my life in fear of an inevitability.  So I decided to go back with the resolve to accept whatever I found.

The next trip I had was also harsh, but I faced it and through doing so found that there was nothing to be feared in the revelation.  Accepting what I found made all the difference, and I began to have trips that I could actually appreciate ('enjoy' might be a little much to say).  At this point, I began to be able to carry pieces of the knowledge I found in that place back with me.  It took much more work still before I was able to bring back words.  This is one of the many thing yerba maria helps me with ... she gives me a facility with language.  By now, I've written quite a lot of poetry right after coming out of a trip with salvia and/or DMT.  Of course the words I bring back are only of use to someone who is ready to comprehend them. -_o

Also: you might just consider lightening your dose.  You may just be a light-weight like me.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Poisonouss on 17 March 2013, 13:58:19
@GGA My first experience on DMT wasn't a good one either, but like you said, I couldn't live with that hanging over my head for my entire life like the sword of Damocles.  When I did eventually go back, things slowly improved as far as experiences, and by the fourth or fifth time I was becoming much better at controlling and remembering everything.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 17 March 2013, 18:42:36
I placed my first order for MHRB today (thanx again, lesseroftwoweevils).  I also have orders out for lye and naptha ... everything I need should be coming within the next couple of weeks.  It will be my first DMT extraction, and I'll be sure to give a detailed report when it comes time ... but I'm EXCITED!

I fell asleep while meditating last night.  This happens sometimes when I'm very tired.  Anyway, I can tell by my dreams when this has happened, because although I'm dreaming, I'm still meditating too.  Probably because of all the talk of meditation and DMT on this thread, I had DMT-like experiences in my dreams.  I hadn't smoked any beforehand, but this was almost like having a 2 hour (smoked) DMT trip.  It left me feeling very good, but not very rested. -_o
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: gingerballs on 17 March 2013, 20:02:54
@GGA Thank you - flattered.
On vendors - I value two bits of info on them - NO (ideally)reports of scamming and few people vouching for their product quality. So, having a list that has most frequently positively mentioned vendors on top is totally right (just as you had in OP few days back). But I would add a list of those who scam (if god forbid those reports start coming thru) to save newbs from getting disappointing experience. It also helps to coordinate taking down of vendor efforts as we had to do with Deadman few weeks back.

I had a very gentle and friendly one last night on dmtnexus'es stuff - I really like his wares for being more gentle and slightly more natural/earthy than some other whiter stuff I have tried. I took about 20 mg in one toke and while remember inhaling (the machine is really gentle when it comes to smoke's taste and temperature) exhaling must have happened after my departure :-) again, on return I have no recollection of where I was and what happened there - I did meditate before (well, I have tried to focus in my breathing for 10 minutes) and I do have a feeling that I had the same moment I sometimes have on acid "this is really interesting - incog, you must bring this back". I think I am going to give up on trying to bring anything back - it might simply resist it to humble me. May be being humble will trick it into showing its face :-)

On you philosophical theme I am of an opinion that there is nothing wrong in short-cutting a path to insight via the use of substances, but in my experience this devalues that insight in short-cutter eyes. If you like the glimps of what you see - embark on the path ASAP because the path will make your eventual arrival into the same place few years later a LOT more rewarding! I liken it to an experience of spending few weeks climbing some tough mountain and finally getting to the top to see a helicopter circling around the summit. I am sure by being there they have attained some insight, satisfaction, sence of achievement. You and them are in the same place, but can they really understand how different you are being there because of the path that taken you there?

Glad you all here encouraged me further into meditation ... This is possibly the beginning of an "unaided" path for me. On a downer side - read or watch some documentary materials on Bardo Todol - Tibetan Book of the Dead. I am sure that practicing monks were attaining those insights thru meditations going thru ego death, etc. but it took them 40 years of meditative practices to get there. Do I have a chance?

imo, you shouldn't be comparing yourself to the 40 years it takes some people to achieve certain aspects of meditation. there are many factors, such as your experience/effort from past lives. i actually know someone who was able to achieve very high levels of meditation before the age of 10.. that's insane! from the age of 5, she was taken into a temple and over the course of a few years, she developed samadhi-level meditation (object concentration). samadhi/jhana meditation seems like it is what we are trying to achieve - to beam our focus on object(s) so strongly that we transcend our known physical universe.

im a mid-level beginner meditator (which means i suck), but i can tell you that there are already noticeable effects from it. 2 nights ago i felt sick (i probably had too much sugar) but went ahead and tried some meditation. i sat still for about 40 minutes, and by the time i was done.. i was actually feeling great. i also notice that there's a passive activation (well, sometimes) where i feel great the following day without putting any effort.

the way i see it is.. there is nothing stopping you from doing psychadelics and practicing meditation at the same time. might as well have your fun with the psychs and invest in meditation. on a personal level, psychadelics have helped me renew my interest in spirituality/meditation.. so imo, there's no way it can be a completely bad thing.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 17 March 2013, 20:31:57
I placed my first order for MHRB today (thanx again, lesseroftwoweevils).  I also have orders out for lye and naptha ... everything I need should be coming within the next couple of weeks.  It will be my first DMT extraction, and I'll be sure to give a detailed report when it comes time ... but I'm EXCITED!

I fell asleep while meditating last night.  This happens sometimes when I'm very tired.  Anyway, I can tell by my dreams when this has happened, because although I'm dreaming, I'm still meditating too.  Probably because of all the talk of meditation and DMT on this thread, I had DMT-like experiences in my dreams.  I hadn't smoked any beforehand, but this was almost like having a 2 hour (smoked) DMT trip.  It left me feeling very good, but not very rested. -_o

On the extraction. Nice! Good luck with that. It's very nice knowing that you created the drug that you ingested. Improves the experience IMO. I would like to smoke weed I'd grown, eat peyote I'd grown, and dose LSD I'd synthesized... but someday, someday.

On the dreaming: I trip in seriously 1/2 of my dreams. Since DMT causes dreams (not yet proven completely with science, but I am almost certain it does) do you think that smoking DMT would increase dreaming, decrease it, or do nothing? I'm not sure because I smoked spice about 20 minutes before nodding off last night and had very, very vivid dreams and it lasted seriously 10 hours (longer than I was asleep!).

Also, you guys  have any experience with lucid dreaming? I have started taking dream herb capsules a few times a week and damn... if I don't realize I'm dreaming they are still the most vivid dreams of my life. (Didn't take it last night after vaping spice). But I've had some damned awesome lucid dreams the past few weeks. I could fly, stop time, and had total telekinesis. The last one there were a bunch of hitman from the inner city coming after me randomly but periodically and I'd just point my hand at them and they'd freeze. I was just like, "c'mon guys. You're going to have to do better. This is pathetic." None got a shot off. But seriously lucid dreaming is almost more fun than smoked DMT, but not nearly as mystical, just because you are in complete control of the world. In the lucid dreams I'd close my eyes and create an environment in my head, such as the top of a skyscraper or the beach, and POOF, when I opened my eyes I was there.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 17 March 2013, 20:45:54
Some say that meditation and psychedelics can bring you to the same place, but you actually feel like you've truly earned it through meditation -- after all, "it's the journey, not the destination," that is truly important.

There is definitely a sense in which drugs are a cheat for a process that used to take years to achieve ... and I'm a proud cheater. -_o  The thing is, the rules you 'cheat' by taking this route are just bullshit people made up.  When you look at it, even the reasoning behind these rules is completely befuddled and stupid.  There's no shame in taking drugs to achieve the respective states they represent, but those only go so far.

When it comes to chess or wei chi, I don't cheat because I'd be cheating myself out of the experience and the challenge.  When it comes to life, I have absolutely no compunction about cheating my way into appreciating it more.  As I said before, I do in fact practise meditation and mysticism.  Unlike cheating at a game, mysticism is in fact a matter of rising to the challenge.

While it's true that my experiences with psychedelics brought me to this practise, they are not a substitute for it.  The real reason to silence your mind (for instance) is to attain mastery over it ... no drugs or external influence can possibly do this for you.  As you take command of your experience, you'll find that drugs can show the way, but it's up to you to get there.  Said another way, there is a consciousness BEYOND the drug experience, but only you can get yourself there.

I totally agree here. I don't really care about the method I achieve the state, in fact I might even prefer psychedelics because of of how good they make you feel & whatnot. I would however, have great respect for someone who reached the same state without "cheating," or using meditative 'roids. I mean hey, use the drugs if they don't have shitty side effects, but the only side effects I've gotten has been a limitless love for life and a prolonged body high that never seems to go away, I've been tripping so often for so long that it's almost like I'm always in the mindset to trip and feel amazing like I do on them, but not to that degree. I didn't have that bodily feeling before tripping at all if I remember right.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 17 March 2013, 21:10:02
@GGA Thank you - flattered.
On vendors - I value two bits of info on them - NO (ideally)reports of scamming and few people vouching for their product quality. So, having a list that has most frequently positively mentioned vendors on top is totally right (just as you had in OP few days back). But I would add a list of those who scam (if god forbid those reports start coming thru) to save newbs from getting disappointing experience. It also helps to coordinate taking down of vendor efforts as we had to do with Deadman few weeks back.

I had a very gentle and friendly one last night on dmtnexus'es stuff - I really like his wares for being more gentle and slightly more natural/earthy than some other whiter stuff I have tried. I took about 20 mg in one toke and while remember inhaling (the machine is really gentle when it comes to smoke's taste and temperature) exhaling must have happened after my departure :-) again, on return I have no recollection of where I was and what happened there - I did meditate before (well, I have tried to focus in my breathing for 10 minutes) and I do have a feeling that I had the same moment I sometimes have on acid "this is really interesting - incog, you must bring this back". I think I am going to give up on trying to bring anything back - it might simply resist it to humble me. May be being humble will trick it into showing its face :-)

On you philosophical theme I am of an opinion that there is nothing wrong in short-cutting a path to insight via the use of substances, but in my experience this devalues that insight in short-cutter eyes. If you like the glimps of what you see - embark on the path ASAP because the path will make your eventual arrival into the same place few years later a LOT more rewarding! I liken it to an experience of spending few weeks climbing some tough mountain and finally getting to the top to see a helicopter circling around the summit. I am sure by being there they have attained some insight, satisfaction, sence of achievement. You and them are in the same place, but can they really understand how different you are being there because of the path that taken you there?

Glad you all here encouraged me further into meditation ... This is possibly the beginning of an "unaided" path for me. On a downer side - read or watch some documentary materials on Bardo Todol - Tibetan Book of the Dead. I am sure that practicing monks were attaining those insights thru meditations going thru ego death, etc. but it took them 40 years of meditative practices to get there. Do I have a chance?

imo, you shouldn't be comparing yourself to the 40 years it takes some people to achieve certain aspects of meditation. there are many factors, such as your experience/effort from past lives. i actually know someone who was able to achieve very high levels of meditation before the age of 10.. that's insane! from the age of 5, she was taken into a temple and over the course of a few years, she developed samadhi-level meditation (object concentration). samadhi/jhana meditation seems like it is what we are trying to achieve - to beam our focus on object(s) so strongly that we transcend our known physical universe.

im a mid-level beginner meditator (which means i suck), but i can tell you that there are already noticeable effects from it. 2 nights ago i felt sick (i probably had too much sugar) but went ahead and tried some meditation. i sat still for about 40 minutes, and by the time i was done.. i was actually feeling great. i also notice that there's a passive activation (well, sometimes) where i feel great the following day without putting any effort.

the way i see it is.. there is nothing stopping you from doing psychadelics and practicing meditation at the same time. might as well have your fun with the psychs and invest in meditation. on a personal level, psychadelics have helped me renew my interest in spirituality/meditation.. so imo, there's no way it can be a completely bad thing.

Guys (or gals), thank you very much.
I guess since I still mostly rely on that organ that meditation is trying to get under control for most of my day-to-day activity in order to do it properly I either need to go for a serious course like vipassana (not sure I spelled it right) and kick myself into gear - out of question at the moment as taking week to 10 days off is just simply not going to happen ... well, this is not thinking of the costs involved. so, this leaves a route that uses that organ - brain ... Is there any literature or any other means by which I can not only start, but understand a bit more as to what I am aiming for to achieve? what is the progress and what is a simple breathing exercise. I guess my mind, being a king of a castle for a while, is not going to surrender its supremo role without being lulled into a feeling that it is in control :)

I guess this is a very long winded way of asking for recommendations on books or other materials I should put my eyes on to get me going ... stash of good psychedelics is already here!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 17 March 2013, 21:13:28
I placed my first order for MHRB today (thanx again, lesseroftwoweevils).  I also have orders out for lye and naptha ... everything I need should be coming within the next couple of weeks.  It will be my first DMT extraction, and I'll be sure to give a detailed report when it comes time ... but I'm EXCITED!

I fell asleep while meditating last night.  This happens sometimes when I'm very tired.  Anyway, I can tell by my dreams when this has happened, because although I'm dreaming, I'm still meditating too.  Probably because of all the talk of meditation and DMT on this thread, I had DMT-like experiences in my dreams.  I hadn't smoked any beforehand, but this was almost like having a 2 hour (smoked) DMT trip.  It left me feeling very good, but not very rested. -_o

On the extraction. Nice! Good luck with that. It's very nice knowing that you created the drug that you ingested. Improves the experience IMO. I would like to smoke weed I'd grown, eat peyote I'd grown, and dose LSD I'd synthesized... but someday, someday.

On the dreaming: I trip in seriously 1/2 of my dreams. Since DMT causes dreams (not yet proven completely with science, but I am almost certain it does) do you think that smoking DMT would increase dreaming, decrease it, or do nothing? I'm not sure because I smoked spice about 20 minutes before nodding off last night and had very, very vivid dreams and it lasted seriously 10 hours (longer than I was asleep!).

Also, you guys  have any experience with lucid dreaming? I have started taking dream herb capsules a few times a week and damn... if I don't realize I'm dreaming they are still the most vivid dreams of my life. (Didn't take it last night after vaping spice). But I've had some damned awesome lucid dreams the past few weeks. I could fly, stop time, and had total telekinesis. The last one there were a bunch of hitman from the inner city coming after me randomly but periodically and I'd just point my hand at them and they'd freeze. I was just like, "c'mon guys. You're going to have to do better. This is pathetic." None got a shot off. But seriously lucid dreaming is almost more fun than smoked DMT, but not nearly as mystical, just because you are in complete control of the world. In the lucid dreams I'd close my eyes and create an environment in my head, such as the top of a skyscraper or the beach, and POOF, when I opened my eyes I was there.

Dream herb capsules? Sounds like something I would love to try :)
Where did you source them?

if you have dreams like that how can you be sure where that dream ends and where this dream begins?
I know it sounds like I have just watched Inception, but I am not sure how to ask this question without sounding like that.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 17 March 2013, 21:14:42
I would like to smoke weed I'd grown

Done this.  It was mid-grade shit and I think I was the only one thought much of it at the time, but I loved my own buds.

Also, you guys  have any experience with lucid dreaming?

There's 'dreaming' (c.f. Castaneda) and there's lucid dreaming.  They aren't quite the same thing.  I have some experience with the latter, but not the former.  In this way I am a 'plugged-up fool'.  I can 'see' (again, Castaneda); I read omens and have premonitions; in meditation I commune with non-physical entities, I stop time, I achieve powerful epiphanies and states of sheer bliss ... all of that, but I can't 'dream'.  The closest I've come (I feel) is that I've meditated my way into a dream state (without falling asleep ... this is different from falling asleep while meditating in a way that I can't put into words at the moment).

I do dream lucidly sometimes.  Only occasionally do I float off or sculpt the dreamscape, etc.  I actually frequently realise that I'm dreaming but most often I do one of two things when that happens: (a) I wake myself up, or (b) I do nothing with the information and just keep dreaming.  Times when I fall asleep in deep meditation are usually the only times I 'do' something with my dreaming consciousness.

I'm curious as to what 'dream herb capsules' are, though.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 17 March 2013, 21:30:20
I guess this is a very long winded way of asking for recommendations on books or other materials I should put my eyes on to get me going ... stash of good psychedelics is already here!

Any path you choose springs from one tradition or another (or many).  Each one has a different feel, and you should shop around and see what works for you.  My personal preference (as if there were any doubt) is for Carlos Castaneda.  I would recommend: 'A Separate Reality', 'Journey to Ixtlán', 'Tales of Power', and 'The Active Side of Infinity'.  These are books 2, 3, 4, and (I think) 12.  'The Power of Silence' is also worth a read if you get into the series, but I wouldn't bother with the rest.  For instance, I don't think anybody knows what the hell he was talking about in book 5 ('The Second Ring of Power'). ^_^

The way I approached reading these things (and others) was to be absolutely without faith.  I tried things out and gave things room to be real, but didn't believe in anything until my experience confirmed it.  I think this is probably the best way (of course, I haven't tried any others ... so what do I know? -_o).

if you have dreams like that how can you be sure where that dream ends and where this dream begins?
I know it sounds like I have just watched Inception, but I am not sure how to ask this question without sounding like that.

This is no different from asking 'how do you tell dreams from reality' in any context.  Haven't you ever woken up from one dream into another?  I sometimes get caught in cycles and cycles of this.  Even if you don't,  there's no way to tell the difference between dreams and reality, because ultimately there is no difference.  The existence you call your life is nothing more than a serial dream you focus an inordinate amount of attention on. ^_^

If you take my reading suggestion watch out for the spot where Don Juan tells Carlitos (I think it's in 'Tales of Power') that it's the other who dreams the self.  If you understand this, you'll see that this question is meaningless.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 17 March 2013, 21:38:16
I guess this is a very long winded way of asking for recommendations on books or other materials I should put my eyes on to get me going ... stash of good psychedelics is already here!

Any path you choose springs from one tradition or another (or many).  Each one has a different feel, and you should shop around and see what works for you.  My personal preference (as if there were any doubt) is for Carlos Castaneda.  I would recommend: 'A Separate Reality', 'Journey to Ixtlán', 'Tales of Power', and 'The Active Side of Infinity'.  These are books 2, 3, 4, and (I think) 12.  'The Power of Silence' is also worth a read if you get into the series, but I wouldn't bother with the rest.  For instance, I don't think anybody knows what the hell he was talking about in book 5 ('The Second Ring of Power'). ^_^

The way I approached reading these things (and others) was to be absolutely without faith.  I tried things out and gave things room to be real, but didn't believe in anything until my experience confirmed it.  I think this is probably the best way (of course, I haven't tried any others ... so what do I know? -_o).

This made me smile - I have read many of these a while back - the phase of near manic consumption of his works was rather long for me.

I guess I am after more precise area - meditation - how do I get on with it as I seem to struggle with progressing further than "focus on your breathing".

Shows you how old and dogmatic I am - "give me a book that will teach me how to shut my brain" :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 17 March 2013, 21:52:18
Shows you how old and dogmatic I am - "give me a book that will teach me how to shut my brain" :)

The 'focus on your breathing' thing didn't work for me at first.  If it does for you, consider a yoga class ... they do plenty of that sort of meditation.  I am an artist ... I 'used to be' a serious visual artist (i.e., I did mural work, both professional and illicit -_o).  The ability to accurately render something from sight is not about co-ordination, but about perspective.  You need to be able to cease understanding what you're looking at as 'the thing it is' and simply allow yourself to see it as light and dark and shades of colour in a particular configuration.

When I started meditating, this is what I focused on.  I would simply stare: I would look at the wall or whatever else was in front of me, and simply see it without interpretting the scene as objects or whetever.  I de-familiarised my field of vision and simply let it be.  If you want to try this, a good source is 'Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain' ... it teaches you exactly the skill you need to make this happen (and will improve your drawing at the same time -_o).

Another technique which I later discovered to be an even easier introduction is to focus on what you're hearing.  You can do this with natural sounds, but the easiest method is to put on some music you like and just listen to it.  But really listen to it.  Follow every sound intently, don't let yourself drift in and out.  Most people listen to music as background noise, but if you want to use it to meditate just do the total reverse of this.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: gingerballs on 17 March 2013, 22:42:27
@GGA Thank you - flattered.
On vendors - I value two bits of info on them - NO (ideally)reports of scamming and few people vouching for their product quality. So, having a list that has most frequently positively mentioned vendors on top is totally right (just as you had in OP few days back). But I would add a list of those who scam (if god forbid those reports start coming thru) to save newbs from getting disappointing experience. It also helps to coordinate taking down of vendor efforts as we had to do with Deadman few weeks back.

I had a very gentle and friendly one last night on dmtnexus'es stuff - I really like his wares for being more gentle and slightly more natural/earthy than some other whiter stuff I have tried. I took about 20 mg in one toke and while remember inhaling (the machine is really gentle when it comes to smoke's taste and temperature) exhaling must have happened after my departure :-) again, on return I have no recollection of where I was and what happened there - I did meditate before (well, I have tried to focus in my breathing for 10 minutes) and I do have a feeling that I had the same moment I sometimes have on acid "this is really interesting - incog, you must bring this back". I think I am going to give up on trying to bring anything back - it might simply resist it to humble me. May be being humble will trick it into showing its face :-)

On you philosophical theme I am of an opinion that there is nothing wrong in short-cutting a path to insight via the use of substances, but in my experience this devalues that insight in short-cutter eyes. If you like the glimps of what you see - embark on the path ASAP because the path will make your eventual arrival into the same place few years later a LOT more rewarding! I liken it to an experience of spending few weeks climbing some tough mountain and finally getting to the top to see a helicopter circling around the summit. I am sure by being there they have attained some insight, satisfaction, sence of achievement. You and them are in the same place, but can they really understand how different you are being there because of the path that taken you there?

Glad you all here encouraged me further into meditation ... This is possibly the beginning of an "unaided" path for me. On a downer side - read or watch some documentary materials on Bardo Todol - Tibetan Book of the Dead. I am sure that practicing monks were attaining those insights thru meditations going thru ego death, etc. but it took them 40 years of meditative practices to get there. Do I have a chance?

imo, you shouldn't be comparing yourself to the 40 years it takes some people to achieve certain aspects of meditation. there are many factors, such as your experience/effort from past lives. i actually know someone who was able to achieve very high levels of meditation before the age of 10.. that's insane! from the age of 5, she was taken into a temple and over the course of a few years, she developed samadhi-level meditation (object concentration). samadhi/jhana meditation seems like it is what we are trying to achieve - to beam our focus on object(s) so strongly that we transcend our known physical universe.

im a mid-level beginner meditator (which means i suck), but i can tell you that there are already noticeable effects from it. 2 nights ago i felt sick (i probably had too much sugar) but went ahead and tried some meditation. i sat still for about 40 minutes, and by the time i was done.. i was actually feeling great. i also notice that there's a passive activation (well, sometimes) where i feel great the following day without putting any effort.

the way i see it is.. there is nothing stopping you from doing psychadelics and practicing meditation at the same time. might as well have your fun with the psychs and invest in meditation. on a personal level, psychadelics have helped me renew my interest in spirituality/meditation.. so imo, there's no way it can be a completely bad thing.

Guys (or gals), thank you very much.
I guess since I still mostly rely on that organ that meditation is trying to get under control for most of my day-to-day activity in order to do it properly I either need to go for a serious course like vipassana (not sure I spelled it right) and kick myself into gear - out of question at the moment as taking week to 10 days off is just simply not going to happen ... well, this is not thinking of the costs involved. so, this leaves a route that uses that organ - brain ... Is there any literature or any other means by which I can not only start, but understand a bit more as to what I am aiming for to achieve? what is the progress and what is a simple breathing exercise. I guess my mind, being a king of a castle for a while, is not going to surrender its supremo role without being lulled into a feeling that it is in control :)

I guess this is a very long winded way of asking for recommendations on books or other materials I should put my eyes on to get me going ... stash of good psychedelics is already here!

i'm currently reading this book http://www.holybooks.com/a-map-of-the-journey-by-sayadaw-u-jotika/
it's a good book in explaining the objective of meditation. there are some grammatical errors, but it's otherwise not very difficult to read (but the concepts are very abstract).

i think your objective is to turn off your mind, to just experience nature and the environment, instead of conceptualizing or analyzing. it's kind of paradoxical - you are behind told to be aware of things, but not to "think" about them. there are some interesting excerpts in the book that basically discuss ego death. the author talks about, how after being so experienced with meditation, you begin to forget who you are, what your name is, or even where you are.. because as he says, when you meditate, you are "somewhere else."

btw, meditation is very difficult as a beginner. i've been on and off again with it for some time, but a recent LSD trip has turned me back "on," and i hope this time for good. if you're a beginner like me, you'll obviously experience many difficulties, but part of the exercise is about overcoming difficulties and challenges. but even with 15 minute of meditation, you'll still be able to tell the difference.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 17 March 2013, 23:18:27
there are some interesting excerpts in the book that basically discuss ego death. the author talks about, how after being so experienced with meditation, you begin to forget who you are, what your name is, or even where you are.. because as he says, when you meditate, you are "somewhere else."

I wouldn't doubt the author has experience with ego death ... but this term refers to something rather more profound than what you mentioned here.  I frequently forget my name and various personal information and occasionally even how to speak (hell ... I've been having that since before I started meditating OR doing drugs).

Meditation draws you into a wordless awareness in which even the concept that one can have a names is startling and absurd.  Many people also experience a mild form of the 'forgetting how to speak' thing: words just sound wrong, or if you're on the computer, they look wrong ... you understand them and at the same time they all feel like gibberish.  When you haven't spoken in long enough, it can take several minutes or more to be able to find words to come up with a reply to a simple greeting like 'hey, how's it going?' (you can tell from my forum presence that I'm the silent type, can't you? -_o)

On the other hand, I've only experienced ego death on drugs and in dreams.  I definitely think it's possible to do 'naturally' ... but I've yet to get there.  Ego death is exactly what it sounds like: there comes a moment where 'you' cease to be.  The pieces of what just before you could have sworn to be yourself come apart and there is no longer a 'you'.  You are not simply in another place, but rather as a definable entity you no longer exist.  Of course, you build a new self in order to come back from this experience, but you'll never be able to construct the same self you had before.

Ego death is thus key: it is where one gains the power to change the universe.  Since internal and external are merely reflections of one another, when you reassemble yourself, you also reassemble your perceptual world ... and the way you do this allows you to make any change that you intend.  Of course, I'm over-using the word 'you' because our language isn't adapted to talking about ego death.  I just wanted to be clear about this term because ego loss and ego death are different things (and I want us to be able to distinguish these meanings as we continue to talk).

i actually know someone who was able to achieve very high levels of meditation before the age of 10.. that's insane!

So much of my spiritual journey thus far has been about unlearning things I was taught and recapturing things that I knew implicitly as a child.  You could describe the goal of much of my meditation practise as a process of unaging (certainly my mind and to a lesser extent my body as well).  I do not mean at all to disparage her accomplishments when I say I think your friend is incredibly fortunate to have been born into an environment where her enlightenment was encouraged in this way.  I do believe this whole process is far easier on a 10 year-old than a 30 year-old.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 18 March 2013, 18:44:04
I placed my first order for MHRB today (thanx again, lesseroftwoweevils).  I also have orders out for lye and naptha ... everything I need should be coming within the next couple of weeks.  It will be my first DMT extraction, and I'll be sure to give a detailed report when it comes time ... but I'm EXCITED!

I fell asleep while meditating last night.  This happens sometimes when I'm very tired.  Anyway, I can tell by my dreams when this has happened, because although I'm dreaming, I'm still meditating too.  Probably because of all the talk of meditation and DMT on this thread, I had DMT-like experiences in my dreams.  I hadn't smoked any beforehand, but this was almost like having a 2 hour (smoked) DMT trip.  It left me feeling very good, but not very rested. -_o

On the extraction. Nice! Good luck with that. It's very nice knowing that you created the drug that you ingested. Improves the experience IMO. I would like to smoke weed I'd grown, eat peyote I'd grown, and dose LSD I'd synthesized... but someday, someday.

On the dreaming: I trip in seriously 1/2 of my dreams. Since DMT causes dreams (not yet proven completely with science, but I am almost certain it does) do you think that smoking DMT would increase dreaming, decrease it, or do nothing? I'm not sure because I smoked spice about 20 minutes before nodding off last night and had very, very vivid dreams and it lasted seriously 10 hours (longer than I was asleep!).

Also, you guys  have any experience with lucid dreaming? I have started taking dream herb capsules a few times a week and damn... if I don't realize I'm dreaming they are still the most vivid dreams of my life. (Didn't take it last night after vaping spice). But I've had some damned awesome lucid dreams the past few weeks. I could fly, stop time, and had total telekinesis. The last one there were a bunch of hitman from the inner city coming after me randomly but periodically and I'd just point my hand at them and they'd freeze. I was just like, "c'mon guys. You're going to have to do better. This is pathetic." None got a shot off. But seriously lucid dreaming is almost more fun than smoked DMT, but not nearly as mystical, just because you are in complete control of the world. In the lucid dreams I'd close my eyes and create an environment in my head, such as the top of a skyscraper or the beach, and POOF, when I opened my eyes I was there.

Dream herb capsules? Sounds like something I would love to try :)
Where did you source them?

if you have dreams like that how can you be sure where that dream ends and where this dream begins?
I know it sounds like I have just watched Inception, but I am not sure how to ask this question without sounding like that.

They're called Calea ternifolia, or dream herb. You can get them from amazon, iamshaman, bouncingbearbotanicals. A lot of places. They are legal and fairly popular. It's like 2 pills for a little under $1. You can smoke it, drink it in tea, or take a capsule of the ground herb. The smoke and tea is supposed to be really really bitter, so I got the capsule. Also because of the fact that you are supposed to take them 3.5-4.5 hours into your sleep cycle, when REM starts to take place. You should still practice normal lucid dream techniques along with the herb. You can google that and many guides will comes up. I think there is an entire site dedicated to the subject.

Funny you should mention Inception. The dream I was referring to as well as a few other lucid ones was actually a dream within a dream that I was actually lucid in. Before I went to sleep I was just thinking "lucid dream, lucid dream, lucid dream." and when I started dreaming I was me in the evening time thinking just like, "God, fuck whatever I'm doing I just want to go to bed to lucid dream." So finally bedtime comes and I immediately go into a dream after setting my head on my pillow. So this was actually a lucid dream within a non-lucid dream. And I would wake up from the lucid dream and think, "dammit. Got to get back!"

In terms of not knowing when the dreams ends & begins. It's sort of impossible if you are actually lucid dreaming because it essentially means that you have realized that you are in fact dreaming, so you just don't care about anything because it just a dream and are willing to be as wreckless as you want without consequence & you also gain most ability you can fathom. Interestingly I feel that I had less "control" over everything in the dream within the dream than just a normal lucid dream.

there are some interesting excerpts in the book that basically discuss ego death. the author talks about, how after being so experienced with meditation, you begin to forget who you are, what your name is, or even where you are.. because as he says, when you meditate, you are "somewhere else."

I wouldn't doubt the author has experience with ego death ... but this term refers to something rather more profound than what you mentioned here.  I frequently forget my name and various personal information and occasionally even how to speak (hell ... I've been having that since before I started meditating OR doing drugs).

Meditation draws you into a wordless awareness in which even the concept that one can have a names is startling and absurd.  Many people also experience a mild form of the 'forgetting how to speak' thing: words just sound wrong, or if you're on the computer, they look wrong ... you understand them and at the same time they all feel like gibberish.  When you haven't spoken in long enough, it can take several minutes or more to be able to find words to come up with a reply to a simple greeting like 'hey, how's it going?' (you can tell from my forum presence that I'm the silent type, can't you? -_o)

On the other hand, I've only experienced ego death on drugs and in dreams.  I definitely think it's possible to do 'naturally' ... but I've yet to get there.  Ego death is exactly what it sounds like: there comes a moment where 'you' cease to be.  The pieces of what just before you could have sworn to be yourself come apart and there is no longer a 'you'.  You are not simply in another place, but rather as a definable entity you no longer exist.  Of course, you build a new self in order to come back from this experience, but you'll never be able to construct the same self you had before.

Ego death is thus key: it is where one gains the power to change the universe.  Since internal and external are merely reflections of one another, when you reassemble yourself, you also reassemble your perceptual world ... and the way you do this allows you to make any change that you intend.  Of course, I'm over-using the word 'you' because our language isn't adapted to talking about ego death.  I just wanted to be clear about this term because ego loss and ego death are different things (and I want us to be able to distinguish these meanings as we continue to talk).

i actually know someone who was able to achieve very high levels of meditation before the age of 10.. that's insane!

So much of my spiritual journey thus far has been about unlearning things I was taught and recapturing things that I knew implicitly as a child.  You could describe the goal of much of my meditation practise as a process of unaging (certainly my mind and to a lesser extent my body as well).  I do not mean at all to disparage her accomplishments when I say I think your friend is incredibly fortunate to have been born into an environment where her enlightenment was encouraged in this way.  I do believe this whole process is far easier on a 10 year-old than a 30 year-old.

Much of what you describe perfectly captures my mushroom trip from last week. Words made no sense, I forgot everything that I had learned, it almost felt like a was going completely insane since it was happening so fast, but I loved it. It is very true what you say about meditation being harder the older you get. The more you think you "know" things and the "harder" your brain gets, the harder it is to soften it through meditation and let in everything that out there and let out everything that's in you. It's a return to the natural mindset. I wish my parents had me doing this from birth.

I would probably be no where in meditating without psychedelics. Long ago they taught me the "end goal" if you will of meditation, so I sort of know where I am going, and how to get there.

Also, for any beginner in this field, I know a common problem is giving up. You should dedicate a somewhat large amount of time to this. Anything less than 20 minutes isn't so much meditation as it is clearing your mind, but is a good starting point. The longer the better as long as you are going deeper. If you begin to "pull out" then it is best to end it. Very practiced elders can meditate for years supposedly. For me 30 min to an hour is good usually. But I've gone up to four hours in the right mindset. I my experience the longer and "deeper" I go, the more worthwhile it becomes. But if you start to just sit and not meditate, again, end it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: sleepyg on 19 March 2013, 01:59:50
I feel I have enough experience to review and/or give out advice for DMT users. Here is what I have to offer to anyone that is interested:

Experience: I have probably tripped on DMT over 50 times. Dosage has ranged from 20mg-150mg, all using the vapor technique.

Preparation: I have tripped in full daylight, full darkness, and in ambient/non direct light. No matter how many times you've tripped on DMT, many will get that anxious feeling you get before doing a drug. Mostly because it's so intense. I like to do a breathing exercise before I start, to calm my heartbeat. I go into the experience with the mindset that I need all negative thoughts pushed from my mind, and that when the experience starts I need to let go and embrace it. My body will take care of itself while I have no control over it.

Setting: I prefer a dark room with indirect lighting. I have found that during the trip, I can tilt my head towards the lighting and feel a glowing warmth. I make sure there are absolutely no distractions. Make sure that no one is around, your phone is turned off, and all of your pets are somewhere that they cannot distract you. The most preferable time to trip is late at night. If someone is in the room with you, make sure they are quiet during the entirety of the trip.

Method: I personally use a modified version of The Machine. I have found it to be the best method by far. It lets you take in all of that sweet DMT without burning it and has almost zero negative impact on your lungs. I just added a 90 degree straw to the mouthpiece for easier inhalation. I have tried the sandwich method, and found it not to be as nearly effective. When you start out using DMT, there will be some trial and error before you have your smoking method perfected. It took me at least 10 tries before I broke through, but now I have a breakthrough every time. If you are a new user, don't let the rush of the drug intimidate you. If you plan on taking 3 hits, and by the second hit you're starting to feel it kick, just relax and take that third hit. Some people will get nervous and stop when they start to feel the effects/hear the ringing in their ears.

SR DMT Reviews:

Moon Unit: Incredible DMT at an incredible price. I love his packaging method as there is no loss in product. His DMT is absolutely the most potent I've had and smells wonderful. He is fast with shipping, courteous with messages, and accommodates his customers. He has been around for quite some time and I would never hesitate to buy from him.

Rogerpete: Another great DMT vendor. Great product, and very potent. He carries synthesized DMT, but I have found no difference in plant vs tryptamine extraction methods in terms of the trip/potency. He is quick with messages, and very polite. His prices are a bit steep, but his product is good. Fast shipping and nice packaging.

Rainbow123: I've had a couple different batches from this vendor, one with higher quality than the other but both equally satisfying. Very polite vendor, quick to answer messages, and quick to ship. Not sure if this vendor consistently stocks DMT or what the current prices are, but definitely a legit vendor.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: valakki on 19 March 2013, 02:05:50
fantastic post sleepyg!

thumbs up! gave you a karma.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 19 March 2013, 03:35:53
No matter how many times you've tripped on DMT, many will get that anxious feeling you get before doing a drug. Mostly because it's so intense. I like to do a breathing exercise before I start, to calm my heartbeat. I go into the experience with the mindset that I need all negative thoughts pushed from my mind, and that when the experience starts I need to let go and embrace it. My body will take care of itself while I have no control over it.

I don't indulge much in fear anymore.  However, deciding to smoke DMT should give you pause.  I plan it hours in advance.  The mix of anticipation and hesitance is very like what you feel before jumping from a high place.  I think these feelings are good ... they instill an appropriate sense of reverence for the drug and for the experience you're embarking on.  This is not the sort of thing anyone should do lightly.

Thank you for your post, sleepyg.  Your advice is very sound.  I have updated the OP with your info.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: sleepyg on 19 March 2013, 05:10:30
No matter how many times you've tripped on DMT, many will get that anxious feeling you get before doing a drug. Mostly because it's so intense. I like to do a breathing exercise before I start, to calm my heartbeat. I go into the experience with the mindset that I need all negative thoughts pushed from my mind, and that when the experience starts I need to let go and embrace it. My body will take care of itself while I have no control over it.

I don't indulge much in fear anymore.  However, deciding to smoke DMT should give you pause.  I plan it hours in advance.  The mix of anticipation and hesitance is very like what you feel before jumping from a high place.  I think these feelings are good ... they instill an appropriate sense of reverence for the drug and for the experience you're embarking on.  This is not the sort of thing anyone should do lightly.

Thank you for your post, sleepyg.  Your advice is very sound.  I have updated the OP with your info.

You're dead on relating the anticipation and hesitance to jumping from a high place. It's not exactly fear or anxiety, but a greater respect for what you're about to experience. Unlike other drugs, you will never truly know what you're about to experience. You have no idea where the mind will take you. Every journey I have had has been wildly different than the one before. It is sometimes so powerful that it is hard to put into words. I've felt like I've lived the lives of others, witnessed celestial civilizations, and traveled through time and space.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 19 March 2013, 12:52:12
I just came across this listing:

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/effe863e56

This is the machine I use for my DMT vaping - really cool device!

This vendor is also very cool.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 19 March 2013, 17:10:14
No matter how many times you've tripped on DMT, many will get that anxious feeling you get before doing a drug. Mostly because it's so intense. I like to do a breathing exercise before I start, to calm my heartbeat. I go into the experience with the mindset that I need all negative thoughts pushed from my mind, and that when the experience starts I need to let go and embrace it. My body will take care of itself while I have no control over it.

I don't indulge much in fear anymore.  However, deciding to smoke DMT should give you pause.  I plan it hours in advance.  The mix of anticipation and hesitance is very like what you feel before jumping from a high place.  I think these feelings are good ... they instill an appropriate sense of reverence for the drug and for the experience you're embarking on.  This is not the sort of thing anyone should do lightly.

Thank you for your post, sleepyg.  Your advice is very sound.  I have updated the OP with your info.

I do agree that DMT should not be treaded lightly. For the first 15 or 20 times I ever used it I always got the huge anticipation. It is totally like jumping off a high spot -- good analogy -- especially in the sense that you should have your decision completely made BEFORE you go running to jump. I make the decision that, yes, I am going to be going to hyperspace -- most definitely. Then I clear my mind and wait for the anticipation to resolve before actually hitting the piece. This way you are already completely relaxed and ready to "dive in." From my experience this allows you to go "deeper" into the experience and retain more of it.

Don't get nervous, scared, anxious, or whatever else in hyperspace. I notice that it seems that  the experience and the "entities" within the experience seem to torment you more if you are feeling any of those. They are trying to teach you something, if you are not in the right mindset to be taught, they will only mess with you, almost making fun of you for being in the wrong state of mind. Make sure every muscle of yours in relaxed and you mind is as well.

And on the environment: if you are going to be keeping your eyes open, outside on a somewhat sunny day is ideal -- but I prefer breaking through fully in a dimly lit room as you say, with or without music. If you do choose to use music, it is better to have only one song that will be longer than the trip itself -- it's awesome when the trip ends exactly when the song does, and annoying & abrupt when the song changes mid trip. It should be soft, subtle, and unobtrusive. Brian Eno's ambient albums are fantastic, as well as classical music, or any certain songs that fit the description I just said.

Maybe we should make a list here of songs that work very well with hyperspace.

Edit: Oh, and +1 sleepyg   :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Joey Terrifying on 19 March 2013, 18:26:23
i used to like putting on music during sessions...one of my favorites was "Leaf" by Ishq.

lately tho, i just go with silence.  I can "hear my thoughts" clearer this way, if that makes any sense.

another thing i've been doing lately that I like is staring at my blank white ceiling for the heaviest part.  it is a lot like eyes closed except a white backdrop instead of black.  only problem is sometimes i notice my eyes are really watery at the end from not blinking for a few minutes, lol.  but i am really loving the things that materialize in front of that white backdrop.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 19 March 2013, 19:06:22
Maybe we should make a list here of songs that work very well with hyperspace.

I've tried other music as well, but all of the songs that really do it for me are by The Mars Volta:

Asilos Magdalena
Miranda That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore (smoke at about 4:20 in as the soundscape begin to build into an actual song)
L'Via L'Viaquez (smoke at about 0:30, music hits at 0:40)
Cygnus... Vismund Cygnus (smoke at about 0:35, song really kicks in at 0:45)
The Widow
Vicarious Atonement

I've tried many others, but these are the only songs I recall really helping the trip along.  None of them are trip-length.  I've made a playlist which includes most of the above and figured out exactly when to smoke for the optimum effect.  Most of these are from 'Francis the Mute' which is an excellent album for a salvia trip.  Meditation can vastly extend a salvia trip and I used to shut myself in a dark room, begin to meditate, turn on this album, and smoke salvia.  The trip would coordinate itself perfectly to this album and I would come down right as the album ended (far longer than the salvia effects were 'supposed' to last).

I'm thinking of a few more things to try.  In terms of 'non-intrusive' options like you said earlier, I think Al DiMeola's album 'Cielo e Terra' could do very well.  I'm not much of an electronica-phile, but I'm also looking forward to trying 'Windowlicker' by Aphex Twin.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: kundalini on 19 March 2013, 20:32:38
Ordered some spirit molecule a few days ago from AddyQueenHashKing. Has anyone ever ordered from him/her? He/she sells MHRB extracted DMT and because I've always wanted to try a MHRB extracted DMT I went ahead and placed an order. Then I ran into this thread and there is no mention of him/her. There is plenty of positive reviews about RogerPete tho, so I went ahead and ordered some from him before receiving AddyQueenHashKing's DMT. Which will make an awesome opportunity for a review. Synthesized DMT vs MHRB DMT.

This will be my first time ever trying DMT so I wont post my reviews until I've tried both over this weekend. :)

The question is: which DMT should I try first? MHRB or synthesized? Does it matter?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 19 March 2013, 21:16:20
lately tho, i just go with silence.  I can "hear my thoughts" clearer this way, if that makes any sense.

Totally feel this. IMO, deep in hyperspace there is no place for music. But on only a moderate breakthrough, it's very interesting to see how the environment is shaped by the music. Like the tempo the instrument is plated at is sometimes the same tempo that your visuals move to. It's neat to say the least.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Joey Terrifying on 19 March 2013, 21:48:00
Ordered some spirit molecule a few days ago from AddyQueenHashKing. Has anyone ever ordered from him/her? He/she sells MHRB extracted DMT and because I've always wanted to try a MHRB extracted DMT I went ahead and placed an order. Then I ran into this thread and there is no mention of him/her. There is plenty of positive reviews about RogerPete tho, so I went ahead and ordered some from him before receiving AddyQueenHashKing's DMT. Which will make an awesome opportunity for a review. Synthesized DMT vs MHRB DMT.

This will be my first time ever trying DMT so I wont post my reviews until I've tried both over this weekend. :)

The question is: which DMT should I try first? MHRB or synthesized? Does it matter?

I've only ever had MHRB extract, but am looking forward to trying some synth'd stuff from RogerPete when i run out of my current supply.  i think most people say there's no qualitative difference, though, assuming your extract is of a high quality/purity. 

i don't think you'll be able to tell the difference if you've never done DMT before.  the experience varies so widely from session to session...totally unpredictable.  until you're reasonably familiar with one over the other, i don't think you'll be able to make a judgement.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: kundalini on 20 March 2013, 00:14:42

I've only ever had MHRB extract, but am looking forward to trying some synth'd stuff from RogerPete when i run out of my current supply.  i think most people say there's no qualitative difference, though, assuming your extract is of a high quality/purity. 

i don't think you'll be able to tell the difference if you've never done DMT before.  the experience varies so widely from session to session...totally unpredictable.  until you're reasonably familiar with one over the other, i don't think you'll be able to make a judgement.

IMO its a good thing that i wont be able to tell the difference =p
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: sleepyg on 20 March 2013, 04:20:46
Ordered some spirit molecule a few days ago from AddyQueenHashKing. Has anyone ever ordered from him/her? He/she sells MHRB extracted DMT and because I've always wanted to try a MHRB extracted DMT I went ahead and placed an order. Then I ran into this thread and there is no mention of him/her. There is plenty of positive reviews about RogerPete tho, so I went ahead and ordered some from him before receiving AddyQueenHashKing's DMT. Which will make an awesome opportunity for a review. Synthesized DMT vs MHRB DMT.

This will be my first time ever trying DMT so I wont post my reviews until I've tried both over this weekend. :)

The question is: which DMT should I try first? MHRB or synthesized? Does it matter?

I've had both and noticed no discernible difference. As long as your MHRB is clean and properly washed, both are good to go.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: tooconscious on 20 March 2013, 04:28:43
whatsup everybody. Never tried DMT before but after plenty of research went with rogerpete. Then I realized I'm pretty much in the dark as far as what synthetic entails. Others have asked about the differences but is there enough information about synthetic to be sure it's as safe as the natural variety, or safe at all? Also, what's the shelf life like on this? Will it last years at room temp?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DanDanTheIceCreamMan on 20 March 2013, 04:40:03
I just got 200mg of elvis98's dmt. I'll probably smoke it sometime this week. I've only smoked it once before but it wasn't from elvis98. As soon as I return from my journey I'll let everyone know how it was. Until then I will be enjoying some rocky road icecream.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 20 March 2013, 05:12:54
whatsup everybody. Never tried DMT before but after plenty of research went with rogerpete. Then I realized I'm pretty much in the dark as far as what synthetic entails. Others have asked about the differences but is there enough information about synthetic to be sure it's as safe as the natural variety, or safe at all? Also, what's the shelf life like on this? Will it last years at room temp?

rogerpete's DMT is synthesised from tryptamine, but it is N,N-DMT, the same drug as is extracted from MHRB, acacia bark, etc.  It thus has the same chemical properties: it will not go bad, it will vape at the same temps, and so on.  The difference between synthesis and extraction (other than chemical expertise and equipment) lies in what residual chemicals are left in the end product.  I do not know what rogerpete's process leaves behind, but I would guess there's a good chance the residuals are other tryptamines (which would also be psychoactive and could affect the trip).  MHRB extraction, on the other hand, leaves 'jungle spice' as well as other inert residuals.

You've chosen a source who is very well vouched for.  Several people have reviewed his product on this thread---it isn't dangerous.  Also: his declared purity of 97.8% means there  probably won't be enough residual chemicals for the difference between synth DMT and extract to be noticeable (as sleepyg has just told us) ... and you certainly won't know the difference. -_o

I hadn't really thought about it before, but if rogerpete's synthesis leaves other tryptamines behind, perhaps these do affect the experience in a subtle way ...  it could be why multiple people have described his DMT as very 'warm' and 'gentle'.  This is sheer speculation on my part, and I don't think the effect could be too significant since sleepyg has already told us he couldn't tell the difference.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: tooconscious on 20 March 2013, 05:44:21
thanks for the informative reply great green. I guess i've always been paranoid of the microscopic dangers whose effects wouldn't surface immediately, but rather in the long term. Not just for DMT but any drug. Of course that would also lead to a discussion of anything you put in your body - Unhealthy foods, alcohol etc. We're talking about drugs afterall, so you just can't assume that they have 0% negative consquences. Anyway, I digress. I'm pretty confident this stuff is top notch.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 20 March 2013, 17:29:24
whatsup everybody. Never tried DMT before but after plenty of research went with rogerpete. Then I realized I'm pretty much in the dark as far as what synthetic entails. Others have asked about the differences but is there enough information about synthetic to be sure it's as safe as the natural variety, or safe at all? Also, what's the shelf life like on this? Will it last years at room temp?

rogerpete's DMT is synthesised from tryptamine, but it is N,N-DMT, the same drug as is extracted from MHRB, acacia bark, etc.  It thus has the same chemical properties: it will not go bad, it will vape at the same temps, and so on.  The difference between synthesis and extraction (other than chemical expertise and equipment) lies in what residual chemicals are left in the end product.  I do not know what rogerpete's process leaves behind, but I would guess there's a good chance the residuals are other tryptamines (which would also be psychoactive and could affect the trip).  MHRB extraction, on the other hand, leaves 'jungle spice' as well as other inert residuals.

You've chosen a source who is very well vouched for.  Several people have reviewed his product on this thread---it isn't dangerous.  Also: his declared purity of 97.8% means there  probably won't be enough residual chemicals for the difference between synth DMT and extract to be noticeable (as sleepyg has just told us) ... and you certainly won't know the difference. -_o

I hadn't really thought about it before, but if rogerpete's synthesis leaves other tryptamines behind, perhaps these do affect the experience in a subtle way ...  it could be why multiple people have described his DMT as very 'warm' and 'gentle'.  This is sheer speculation on my part, and I don't think the effect could be too significant since sleepyg has already told us he couldn't tell the difference.

I think rogerpete states on his page that the residual is only tryptamine. The residuals of synthesized DMT are less psychoactive (if at all), than extracted DMT. The residuals in extracted DMT are fatty alkaloids from the MHRB that are fairy inert. Jungle spice isn't exactly just the impurities in extracted DMT, although similar. It requires a separate extraction from the MHRB to get. When doing an extraction, you can save the left over napatha and make your own jungle spice from it, although it won't contain as many active alkaloids as jungle spice extracted straight from the MHRB and not just runoff.

Although it is likely that the placebo effects are more heavy than the actual difference you can tell. Tryptamine  alone acts as a serotonin releasing agent, so that could explain the warm and gentle feeling.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 20 March 2013, 22:21:00
I think rogerpete states on his page that the residual is only tryptamine. The residuals of synthesized DMT are less psychoactive (if at all), than extracted DMT. The residuals in extracted DMT are fatty alkaloids from the MHRB that are fairy inert. Jungle spice isn't exactly just the impurities in extracted DMT, although similar. It requires a separate extraction from the MHRB to get. When doing an extraction, you can save the left over napatha and make your own jungle spice from it, although it won't contain as many active alkaloids as jungle spice extracted straight from the MHRB and not just runoff.

Although it is likely that the placebo effects are more heavy than the actual difference you can tell. Tryptamine  alone acts as a serotonin releasing agent, so that could explain the warm and gentle feeling.

Thanks.  I realised afterward that I misspoke about 'jungle spice' being a residual (I hadn't corrected myself yet).  The other correction confuses me, because what you said doesn't seem consistent.  Tryptamine causes serotonin release---that much is true, but that makes it psychoactive ... much more so than the 'inert' alkaloids MHRB leaves behind.  I realise the residuals in extract are not totally inert, but if tryptamine is the only thing left by DMT synthesis, then the residuals in synth DMT are actually a pure drug. It seems to me this will be more psychoactive than the stuff in extract, not less.  I haven't had enough rough extract to really know though.

I should figure out how to make jungle spice so I can give it a try once I perform my extraction.  I did another harmala extraction yesterday.  I'm still drying the product, so I can't give a dry weight yet, but I got an outstanding yield ... this time getting what I'd look for last time: visible yellow and orange crystals.  I have a 10.5" strainer I use in making beer, and this was completely covered in a cm-thick coat by the crystals too large to pass through.  I ended up with a large amount of amber/ochre crystaline paste as well as a bit of the brown mud I got last time.  Although it made a mess of my kitchen, I feel like it was a very 'clean' extraction ... and once I get this DMT extraction done, I'll be set for pharma trips long, long into the future. ^_^
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: kundalini on 21 March 2013, 03:00:05
thanks for the informative reply great green. I guess i've always been paranoid of the microscopic dangers whose effects wouldn't surface immediately, but rather in the long term. Not just for DMT but any drug. Of course that would also lead to a discussion of anything you put in your body - Unhealthy foods, alcohol etc. We're talking about drugs afterall, so you just can't assume that they have 0% negative consquences. Anyway, I digress. I'm pretty confident this stuff is top notch.

shakira is so sexy! 

AddyQueenHashKing's DMT came in today. He shipped it out monday and it got here wednesday :)

STEALTH--- Excellent! You will have to figure out where the goods are. Really satisfied with the stealth, I will be very surprised to see something better.

QUALITY--- I'll have a full write up by the end of this weekend ;)

He asked me to finalize early, being my first purchase on SR and all that. I FE'd because he has plenty of positive comments in his vendor page. Now that I received his stuff it's all good. I'll be trying his stuff out along with some of RogerPete's during the same weekend. Hopefully they are enlightening experiences :)



Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 21 March 2013, 04:15:10
I think rogerpete states on his page that the residual is only tryptamine. The residuals of synthesized DMT are less psychoactive (if at all), than extracted DMT. The residuals in extracted DMT are fatty alkaloids from the MHRB that are fairy inert. Jungle spice isn't exactly just the impurities in extracted DMT, although similar. It requires a separate extraction from the MHRB to get. When doing an extraction, you can save the left over napatha and make your own jungle spice from it, although it won't contain as many active alkaloids as jungle spice extracted straight from the MHRB and not just runoff.

Although it is likely that the placebo effects are more heavy than the actual difference you can tell. Tryptamine  alone acts as a serotonin releasing agent, so that could explain the warm and gentle feeling.

Thanks.  I realised afterward that I misspoke about 'jungle spice' being a residual (I hadn't corrected myself yet).  The other correction confuses me, because what you said doesn't seem consistent.  Tryptamine causes serotonin release---that much is true, but that makes it psychoactive ... much more so than the 'inert' alkaloids MHRB leaves behind.  I realise the residuals in extract are not totally inert, but if tryptamine is the only thing left by DMT synthesis, then the residuals in synth DMT are actually a pure drug. It seems to me this will be more psychoactive than the stuff in extract, not less.  I haven't had enough rough extract to really know though.

I should figure out how to make jungle spice so I can give it a try once I perform my extraction.  I did another harmala extraction yesterday.  I'm still drying the product, so I can't give a dry weight yet, but I got an outstanding yield ... this time getting what I'd look for last time: visible yellow and orange crystals.  I have a 10.5" strainer I use in making beer, and this was completely covered in a cm-thick coat by the crystals too large to pass through.  I ended up with a large amount of amber/ochre crystaline paste as well as a bit of the brown mud I got last time.  Although it made a mess of my kitchen, I feel like it was a very 'clean' extraction ... and once I get this DMT extraction done, I'll be set for pharma trips long, long into the future. ^_^

This sounds really cool, @GGA!
Congrats!
If you were to sell some of that harmaline on SR I would find it hard to say no :-)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 21 March 2013, 04:58:20
This sounds really cool, @GGA!
Congrats!
If you were to sell some of that harmaline on SR I would find it hard to say no :-)

LOL.  I will certainly be making gel caps and will probably sell off some if possible (preferably after my DMT extraction so I can package them together as pharma kits).  However, I don't have a vendor account on SR, and this one-time surplus of chemicals hardly justifies the cost of opening one.  Sorry, but I think I'll have to use more traditional dispensation channels. -_o

BTW: I did try the extract last night, and it's definitely good.  I got a small amount of NaCl precipitate in this batch but it's still a much better extraction than my first try.  Really, a little NaCl is sort of a good thing, since it means that I turned all the harmala acetates into hydrochloride salts (thus the extraction was efficient).  I'll have to do an experimental pharma trip before I cap this stuff to get the dosage right.  I know it's a thankless task ... but somebody's got to do it, right? -_o

PS - I think syrian rue is legal almost everywhere and the seeds are quite cheap.  You can easily order a pound of seed from amazon.com (as I did).  If you happen to live in Canada, the extraction process is illegal (there are other places where harmine and harmaline are controlled ... but based on your post times, this seems the likely culprit if any).  On the other hand, you're here so how worried about that can you be?  The extraction process is laughably easy and requires only things you likely already have in your kitchen.  You may have to spring for non-iodised salt, but that's about it.  I definitely recommend the DIY approach.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 21 March 2013, 06:21:33
This sounds really cool, @GGA!
Congrats!
If you were to sell some of that harmaline on SR I would find it hard to say no :-)

LOL.  I will certainly be making gel caps and will probably sell off some if possible (preferably after my DMT extraction so I can package them together as pharma kits).  However, I don't have a vendor account on SR, and this one-time surplus of chemicals hardly justifies the cost of opening one.  Sorry, but I think I'll have to use more traditional dispensation channels. -_o

BTW: I did try the extract last night, and it's definitely good.  I got a small amount of NaCl precipitate in this batch but it's still a much better extraction than my first try.  Really, a little NaCl is sort of a good thing, since it means that I turned all the harmala acetates into hydrochloride salts (thus the extraction was efficient).  I'll have to do an experimental pharma trip before I cap this stuff to get the dosage right.  I know it's a thankless task ... but somebody's got to do it, right? -_o

PS - I think syrian rue is legal almost everywhere and the seeds are quite cheap.  You can easily order a pound of seed from amazon.com (as I did).  If you happen to live in Canada, the extraction process is illegal (there are other places where harmine and harmaline are controlled ... but based on your post times, this seems the likely culprit if any).  On the other hand, you're here so how worried about that can you be?  The extraction process is laughably easy and requires only things you likely already have in your kitchen.  You may have to spring for non-iodised salt, but that's about it.  I definitely recommend the DIY approach.

@GGA, shame!
I do have seeds indeed, but after my ayahuasca experience which did involve a lot of barfing I have done some research.
While syrian rue is a bit better than bonisteria caapi it is still causing nausea in many.
Apparently, moclobemide is the way forward ... It is like harmine and harmaline - RIMA, or in terms I actually learned this abbreviation in, is a type of MAOI that is short-acting and does not screw up MAO in your system - just disables it for few hours allowing for DMT to pass unchallenged.
Given that you seem to have more time for experimenting I would be very keen to hear if you ever try/tried it before I make any more purchases :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 21 March 2013, 07:17:45
Given that you seem to have more time for experimenting I would be very keen to hear if you ever try/tried it before I make any more purchases :)

Haha.  I'm sure it seems that way.  I'm very active here because: (1) I like you guys, and (2) I work all the time, and I frequently need to look away from what I'm doing for several minutes---this gives me something to do during the respites.  The extraction itself requires very little hands-on effort.  You can do other things while stuff is boiling, while precipitate is settling, while stuff is filtering, and while the product is drying (i.e., the vast majority of the time the process takes).

I have not heard of moclobemide. I definitely wouldn't advise eating the raw seeds or making 'tea' ... the taste of that stuff could make you nauseous by itself (seriously, it's awful).  If you're going to use harmine & co, gel caps are the way to go imo.  I experienced moderate nausea for a brief time shortly after dosing the DMT capsule (more than an hour after the harmala extract).  This is significant because I have a cast-iron stomach: I don't really get nauseous from shrooms ... hell, I even ate sashimi which had been sitting out for 3 days and didn't have any trouble. -_o

I can certainly see people with more sensitive stomachs having more troubles.  Please let us know if you make headway in finding a less nauseating reversible MAOI (like moclobemide, apparently).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 21 March 2013, 07:25:00
Given that you seem to have more time for experimenting I would be very keen to hear if you ever try/tried it before I make any more purchases :)

Haha.  I'm sure it seems that way.  I'm very active here because: (1) I like you guys, and (2) I work all the time, and I frequently need to look away from what I'm doing for several minutes---this gives me something to do during the respites.  The extraction itself requires very little hands-on effort.  You can do other things while stuff is boiling, while precipitate is settling, while stuff is filtering, and while the product is drying (i.e., the vast majority of the time the process takes).

I have not heard of moclobemide. I definitely wouldn't advise eating the raw seeds or making 'tea' ... the taste of that stuff could make you nauseous by itself (seriously, it's awful).  If you're going to use harmine & co, gel caps are the way to go imo.  I experienced moderate nausea for a brief time shortly after dosing the DMT capsule (more than an hour after the harmala extract).  This is significant because I have a cast-iron stomach: I don't really get nauseous from shrooms ... hell, I even ate sashimi which had been sitting out for 3 days and didn't have any trouble. -_o

I can certainly see people with more sensitive stomachs having more troubles.  Please let us know if you make headway in finding a less nauseating reversible MAOI (like moclobemide, apparently).

Challenge accepted!
So IF is settled - I shall find a way test moclobemide or other RIMA with DMT and report here.
Now all I have to figure out is WHEN.
This can be harder ... A lot harder :-)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 21 March 2013, 09:04:05
I'm thinking of a few more things to try.  In terms of 'non-intrusive' options like you said earlier, I think Al DiMeola's album 'Cielo e Terra' could do very well.  I'm not much of an electronica-phile, but I'm also looking forward to trying 'Windowlicker' by Aphex Twin.

I tried this when testing my new harmala extract ... I smoked DMT a couple of hours after taking the extract to judge its effect on the trip.  I listened to 'Windowlicker' (the song) followed by 'Cielo e Terra' (the album).  Windowlicker was far too weird, arhythmic, and sexual (I probably should have re-listened to the song sober before tripping to it -_o).  I had a strange anti-climactic trip with this music.  Al DiMeola's album was good, but the tempo of the first song was much too slow.  I'd consider starting the album at 'Vertigo Shadow' for a DMT trip ... but what I did really didn't work.  The harmala, on the other hand, did just what it was supposed to do.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 21 March 2013, 16:44:27
I think rogerpete states on his page that the residual is only tryptamine. The residuals of synthesized DMT are less psychoactive (if at all), than extracted DMT. The residuals in extracted DMT are fatty alkaloids from the MHRB that are fairy inert. Jungle spice isn't exactly just the impurities in extracted DMT, although similar. It requires a separate extraction from the MHRB to get. When doing an extraction, you can save the left over napatha and make your own jungle spice from it, although it won't contain as many active alkaloids as jungle spice extracted straight from the MHRB and not just runoff.

Although it is likely that the placebo effects are more heavy than the actual difference you can tell. Tryptamine  alone acts as a serotonin releasing agent, so that could explain the warm and gentle feeling.

Thanks.  I realised afterward that I misspoke about 'jungle spice' being a residual (I hadn't corrected myself yet).  The other correction confuses me, because what you said doesn't seem consistent.  Tryptamine causes serotonin release---that much is true, but that makes it psychoactive ... much more so than the 'inert' alkaloids MHRB leaves behind.  I realise the residuals in extract are not totally inert, but if tryptamine is the only thing left by DMT synthesis, then the residuals in synth DMT are actually a pure drug. It seems to me this will be more psychoactive than the stuff in extract, not less.  I haven't had enough rough extract to really know though.

I should figure out how to make jungle spice so I can give it a try once I perform my extraction.  I did another harmala extraction yesterday.  I'm still drying the product, so I can't give a dry weight yet, but I got an outstanding yield ... this time getting what I'd look for last time: visible yellow and orange crystals.  I have a 10.5" strainer I use in making beer, and this was completely covered in a cm-thick coat by the crystals too large to pass through.  I ended up with a large amount of amber/ochre crystaline paste as well as a bit of the brown mud I got last time.  Although it made a mess of my kitchen, I feel like it was a very 'clean' extraction ... and once I get this DMT extraction done, I'll be set for pharma trips long, long into the future. ^_^

Sorry, yeah, when I said fairly I meant in comparison to the DMT. I have much, much more experience with extractions & extracted DMT. The residuals in the DMT are some of the other psychoactive alkaloids that are present in ayahuasca, just in smaller amounts. They have different effects than the residual tryptamine, but honestly they are small. Synthesized DMT is usually more pure, so there is less residuals. If you get some waxy, yellowish DMT, then that has more fatty alkaloids. Some people actually prefer this kind. I like my white fluff, but I've had good experiences with both.

I think that since the tryptamine has a single residual chemical it is easier to isolate and see it's effect. On another note: I really don't know how tryptamine or the fatty alkaloids are absorbed by us, so they could be present but not psychoactive when smoked. So to answer the original question: for all intensive purposes, the difference between synthesized and extracted DMT is negligible.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 21 March 2013, 17:10:07
just wanted to clear something up. i noticed another DMT vendor claiming that yellow color to extracted DMT means that there is excessive lye or as they put it "pool cleaner" left in the extraction and that yellow color is an indication of inferior and "sloppy" chemistry. from all the research i've done, this is simply not true. yellow coloring is due to either oxidation or by remaining plant fats/oils which some people claim to be mildly psychoactive components of the bark used for extraction.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 21 March 2013, 23:07:07
just wanted to clear something up. i noticed another DMT vendor claiming that yellow color to extracted DMT means that there is excessive lye or as they put it "pool cleaner" left in the extraction and that yellow color is an indication of inferior and "sloppy" chemistry. from all the research i've done, this is simply not true. yellow coloring is due to either oxidation or by remaining plant fats/oils which some people claim to be mildly psychoactive components of the bark used for extraction.

Correct. In my time extracting I made some batches that I did literally the exact same routine with the same bark and it came our yellower than before. I did notice that the less I was making, the more often it would be white. If there is excessive lye you will know it, and I want no fucking part in that spice.  >:( But that really should not happen. Seriously, extracting DMT is easy as making pie. And I don't think I've made a pie ever, so maybe easier.  :D But the notion that this guy is "better" at extracting is somewhat ridiculous. I hardly consider it a talent, just a matter of following the instruction and having the sack to do it in the first place.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 22 March 2013, 00:50:05
just wanted to clear something up. i noticed another DMT vendor claiming that yellow color to extracted DMT means that there is excessive lye or as they put it "pool cleaner" left in the extraction and that yellow color is an indication of inferior and "sloppy" chemistry. from all the research i've done, this is simply not true. yellow coloring is due to either oxidation or by remaining plant fats/oils which some people claim to be mildly psychoactive components of the bark used for extraction.

POOL CLEANER?!?!  I think this is your first sign not to do business with this individual.  I'm preparing for my first ever extraction, but I at least bought food-grade lye.  I would be profoundly skeptical of product made with 'pool cleaner'.

Anyway, at least with MHRB extractions, colour seems to be a reasonable indicator of purity ... but not what you were told.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 22 March 2013, 03:44:47
POOL CLEANER?!?!

hahaha.  ;D Yep, 100% caustic soda only for me. 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: shai1973 on 23 March 2013, 01:03:40
Great Green Arkleseizure   ----   +1 ,   amazing work bro ,  keep the good stuff brother,   now I know where to come for DMT .
Love ya brotha
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: LSD Avengers Spokesperson on 23 March 2013, 01:57:31
Beautiful.

subbed.  Love it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: sleepyg on 23 March 2013, 03:49:53
Couple random thoughts while I'm logged into the forums that maybe a few can help me with:

Does anyone have a legit source for MHRB domestically? It really pains me to see this plant disappear due to federal restrictions and I was just getting the courage up to do my own extracts. I guess I could do one using acacia, but I'd prefer MHRB.

Lately I've been having some of the more intense DMT trips I've had since the discovery of this wonderful substance. But I find that I cannot remember much of the meat of the trip. I can usually remember the beginning, the end, and fragments of the middle. Reading trip reports, it seems as though some have vivid recollections of their journeys. It feels like the peak is so damn fast, that I cannot grasp onto what happened. And with these more intense experiences, I have noticed a disconnection from my body that I cannot put into words. I feel as though I am no longer human, or that I am living vicariously through something/someone else. This feeling is uncanny and can't be replicated. As I come back to my body, it feels like I do not recognize anything around me. Almost as if I had amnesia. Does this occur with anyone else?

And then I sit there in awe, in amazement and wonderment, trying to grasp what has actually happened. It's hard for me to believe that all of this was conceived within my own brain. I could never even imagine the things I have seen. The intricate shapes and patterns, the mathematical equations.

I now believe that DMT is linked to the pineal gland somehow. Over the past few years, I did not dream, or rather I did not remember them. But since using DMT on a weekly basis, my dreams are vivid and lucid, and my sleep more restful.

I'd like to give another shout out to Moon Unit. That dude does not get enough recognition for his efforts around here. His DMT is extremely potent, smells like flowers, and priced very reasonably. He's been providing us with quality spice for a long time now and I'd like to thank him for his efforts. I recently acquired another gram from him to ensure I stay supplied.

I'd also like to thank everyone in this thread for continuing to have insightful conversation on what I believe to be the most wonderful and sacred drug I've had the honor of finding. This thread is full of positive people and I'd +Karma all of you if I could. Keep up the good work fellas.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 23 March 2013, 04:10:20
Hey Great Green Arkleseizure, here's an update on the OP:

Happy to help!  :)

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Rogerpete
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Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 23 March 2013, 04:24:23
Does anyone have a legit source for MHRB domestically? It really pains me to see this plant disappear due to federal restrictions and I was just getting the courage up to do my own extracts. I guess I could do one using acacia, but I'd prefer MHRB.

You should pm lesseroftwoweevils.  He was kind enough to offer up his MHRB sources on p. 7 (and thoughtful enough not to compromise them by naming them publicly).

Lately I've been having some of the more intense DMT trips I've had since the discovery of this wonderful substance. But I find that I cannot remember much of the meat of the trip. I can usually remember the beginning, the end, and fragments of the middle. Reading trip reports, it seems as though some have vivid recollections of their journeys. It feels like the peak is so damn fast, that I cannot grasp onto what happened. And with these more intense experiences, I have noticed a disconnection from my body that I cannot put into words. I feel as though I am no longer human, or that I am living vicariously through something/someone else. This feeling is uncanny and can't be replicated. As I come back to my body, it feels like I do not recognize anything around me. Almost as if I had amnesia. Does this occur with anyone else?

incogmagnito mentioned troubles remembering his trips (p. 7).  I responded by telling the tale of my first breakthrough (p. 9, hidden toward the bottom of the second post).  I can recommend two thing: meditation and sobriety.  Of course, you should be sober for your meditation (I also meditate during psychedelic experiences ... but you can't make much progress relying on them completely) ... but by 'sobriety' I mean not having anything in your system which will slow you down.  I'm thinking of cannabis specifically, but I've felt similar (and even stronger) slow-down effects from harmine/harmaline (p. 4).  Any kind of sedative will slow you down, but the DMT trip continues on at the same pace.

I know people at large are very into their 'humanity' ... but I've come to embrace my 'super-humanity'.  Ego death can in a way be described as transcending your own individuality.  Sometimes your perception does even leave your physical body on DMT.  The easiest description for me (which I discovered on salvia, not DMT) of this realisation is: *[summary deleted, see below]*  I'm half sure I'm pseudo-quoting somebody with that phrase.  I came out of a salvia trip with exactly that analogy in my mind ... and it felt really familiar, but I've never been able to track down the originator (which might mean that it's me -_o).

@DMTisinME: WOW! THANK YOU!  I +1'd you too recently to do it again, but that looks really good.  I really appreciate your effort on this thread.

EDIT: I've decided that the quotation is indeed mine.  I want to be free to use this (or a variation thereupon) in a song of mine ... for the security of my own anonymity, I've opted to remove it.  Apologies.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: blahblah1234 on 23 March 2013, 05:27:58
Wow!  I am going to look into this more now, subscribed....
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 23 March 2013, 06:12:26
Hey GGA,

When searched, his link prompts a “send message screen” - This means the user is not a vendor anymore and this can happen due to many reasons.

I don't follow.  Who are you talking about?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: anonpsyact on 23 March 2013, 07:29:18
I want to Vouche for Vatican http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/b6022bf906, http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=129180.msg893915#msg893915
I v received a sample in UK in 3 days from a country in Eu and the quality was top notch 5/5
here s my feedback on the experience:
":POrder arrived in professional way and very very fast!
Product was AMAZING!
Little more then advertised!
Vaporized 50mg and immediately got the tingling on my lips with colors forming behind my closed eyes!
But not enough to break through
Snorted 50mg Ketamine and 20mg 2cb put on my pro headphones and a youtube called Chakra Healing Alpha Binaural beats Extended version and loaded the rest of the sample on the vaporizer and smoked it and immediately went in hyperspace of geometric color fusing with the loud sound from my headset
Almost couldn't breath with my jaw down in total bliss
this went on for quiet some time until i realized i had come down gently!
Grabbed the vaporizer and smoked the leftover and until the end of the video (more then 1 hour) there i stayed in hyperspace of color and sound
At the end i felt happy and grateful for this fantastic experience.   

Already placed an order from him should be arriving soon and bought 50gms of Syrian rue :)))
Any tips on how to use it !?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 23 March 2013, 07:55:49
In the OP you have this against vendor "Rainbow123".

Since that user is not a vendor anymore, I think, it's better to remove from the OP.

Thanx, GSE.  Rainbow123 is removed.  I also added Shy Guy back to the list as an 'unconfirmed'.  He had offered a discounted 'sample' listing for the active participants of this thread, but when I went to order, the listing was extinct.  If anyone successfully purchased this, please review this vendor.

@anonpsyact: I will note your recommendation.  Was this your first time trying DMT?  It sounds a bit like it.  From your description,  you must have had more than 100mg ... was this his 200mg listing?  Others may contradict me, but this does not sound to me like a very strong experience for having smoked so much.  Of course, chain smoking DMT tends to lead to diminishing experiences.

Already placed an order from him should be arriving soon and bought 50gms of Syrian rue :)))
Any tips on how to use it !?

I suggest extracting the harmala alkaloids.  It's absurdly easy and requires only things you're already likely to have in your kitchen.  I have just made about 80g of extract (a single dose is about 120mg in a gel cap).  Find details on the extraction process here (http://erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/syrian_rue_extraction5.shtml).

Alternatively, you you just grind up the seeds and put the powder in a few gel caps and take it that way.  I advise against eating the seeds raw or making a 'tea' as this will be a most unpleasant experience.  Syrian rue tastes awful, which can exacerbate the nausea harmine and harmaline already sometimes produce.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: anonpsyact on 23 March 2013, 08:28:05


@anonpsyact: I will note your recommendation.  Was this your first time trying DMT?  It sounds a bit like it.  From your description,  you must have had more than 100mg ... was this his 200mg listing?  Others may contradict me, but this does not sound to me like a very strong experience for having smoked so much.  Of course, chain smoking DMT tends to lead to diminishing experiences.

I have smoked DMT but i didnt  broke through couple times i tried and always on 100mg 50mg at a time , this time was Vatican 100mg sample.
I used a vaponic vaporizer this time and i am still learning how to smoke properly but belive  me wen i say it was AMAZING and considering what others say referring to a couple minutes flight  i can say it was beautiful  dont think the word strong its the most appropriate
I smoked hash before maybe 3 or 4 joints it was morning time dim lights alone in the house
I take lsd since i was 17 am now 36
went on weeks bends on x and cyd
 years and years weekend use
i have bought now an eagle bill vaporizer and will use it as used in the machine method next time:)

Already placed an order from him should be arriving soon and bought 50gms of Syrian rue :)))
Any tips on how to use it !?

I suggest extracting the harmala alkaloids.  It's absurdly easy and requires only things you're already likely to have in your kitchen.  I have just made about 80g of extract (a single dose is about 120mg in a gel cap).  Find details on the extraction process here (http://erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/syrian_rue_extraction5.shtml).

Alternatively, you you just grind up the seeds and put the powder in a few gel caps and take it that way.  I advise against eating the seeds raw or making a 'tea' as this will be a most unpleasant experience.  Syrian rue tastes awful, which can exacerbate the nausea harmine and harmaline already sometimes produce.
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Thanks for the info i am really considering doing the extract and thats why i am asking here cause i want to experience the DMT for far longer then a couple minutes.
So
what method you advise me to use to extract

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 23 March 2013, 08:54:29
I recommend the vinegar method.  This gives you the alkaloids as hydrochloride salts which can easily then be put into a capsule. 

I don't, however, recommend taking harmala alkaloids for smoking DMT.  I've done this a couple of times in order to test out my two batches (so far) of harmala extract.  You'll find a report from the first time on p. 4.  Although it does extend the length of the trip considerably, it doesn't lengthen the immersive hallucinatory stage and it also slows you down so much that you can't keep up with the pace of the DMT trip you're experiencing.  If you try the extract on its own, I think you'll see what I mean: it acts as a heavy sedative.

The purpose of making the harmala extract is to activate DMT for oral doses---i.e., pharmahuasca---though I can attest it also does good things to an LSD trip (and any other oral psychedelic you might be using).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 23 March 2013, 09:11:05
Does anyone have a legit source for MHRB domestically? It really pains me to see this plant disappear due to federal restrictions and I was just getting the courage up to do my own extracts. I guess I could do one using acacia, but I'd prefer MHRB.

You should pm lesseroftwoweevils.  He was kind enough to offer up his MHRB sources on p. 7 (and thoughtful enough not to compromise them by naming them publicly).

Lately I've been having some of the more intense DMT trips I've had since the discovery of this wonderful substance. But I find that I cannot remember much of the meat of the trip. I can usually remember the beginning, the end, and fragments of the middle. Reading trip reports, it seems as though some have vivid recollections of their journeys. It feels like the peak is so damn fast, that I cannot grasp onto what happened. And with these more intense experiences, I have noticed a disconnection from my body that I cannot put into words. I feel as though I am no longer human, or that I am living vicariously through something/someone else. This feeling is uncanny and can't be replicated. As I come back to my body, it feels like I do not recognize anything around me. Almost as if I had amnesia. Does this occur with anyone else?

incogmagnito mentioned troubles remembering his trips (p. 7).  I responded by telling the tale of my first breakthrough (p. 9, hidden toward the bottom of the second post).  I can recommend two thing: meditation and sobriety.  Of course, you should be sober for your meditation (I also meditate during psychedelic experiences ... but you can't make much progress relying on them completely) ... but by 'sobriety' I mean not having anything in your system which will slow you down.  I'm thinking of cannabis specifically, but I've felt similar (and even stronger) slow-down effects from harmine/harmaline (p. 4).  Any kind of sedative will slow you down, but the DMT trip continues on at the same pace.

I know people at large are very into their 'humanity' ... but I've come to embrace my 'super-humanity'.  Ego death can in a way be described as transcending your own individuality.  Sometimes your perception does even leave your physical body on DMT.  The easiest description for me (which I discovered on salvia, not DMT) of this realisation is: *[summary deleted, see below]*  I'm half sure I'm pseudo-quoting somebody with that phrase.  I came out of a salvia trip with exactly that analogy in my mind ... and it felt really familiar, but I've never been able to track down the originator (which might mean that it's me -_o).

@DMTisinME: WOW! THANK YOU!  I +1'd you too recently to do it again, but that looks really good.  I really appreciate your effort on this thread.

EDIT: I've decided that the quotation is indeed mine.  I want to be free to use this (or a variation thereupon) in a song of mine ... for the security of my own anonymity, I've opted to remove it.  Apologies.

@GGA, you do know your thread inside out ... Congrats on making it so useful!

@sleepyg, yes - this sounds very familiar. Trying to bring back full recollection of the trip is futile for me - it is like I get stripped of that insight on exit. Or may be I am just getting simply old and my memory goes!
I am trying meditations, but so far other than reducing amount of anxiety before take-off I can not see massive change.

@all curious to see so much activity on this thread - clearly this is a short-acting tryptamine one ... While other guys are out of action tripping balls and unable to write here we do have a flurry of activity.
I did have a deep one on dmtnexus'es stuff. 10 minutes followed 20 minutes of being in owe!
Have a great tripping day!
A thought has crossed my mind:
Lets rename working days into "tripend"
Lets call weekend and Friday into "tripping day"
:-)
Here I am selling it like it was my idea - must have been in my yesterday trip :-)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 23 March 2013, 09:19:18


@anonpsyact: I will note your recommendation.  Was this your first time trying DMT?  It sounds a bit like it.  From your description,  you must have had more than 100mg ... was this his 200mg listing?  Others may contradict me, but this does not sound to me like a very strong experience for having smoked so much.  Of course, chain smoking DMT tends to lead to diminishing experiences.

I have smoked DMT but i didnt  broke through couple times i tried and always on 100mg 50mg at a time , this time was Vatican 100mg sample.
I used a vaponic vaporizer this time and i am still learning how to smoke properly but belive  me wen i say it was AMAZING and considering what others say referring to a couple minutes flight  i can say it was beautiful  dont think the word strong its the most appropriate
I smoked hash before maybe 3 or 4 joints it was morning time dim lights alone in the house
I take lsd since i was 17 am now 36
went on weeks bends on x and cyd
 years and years weekend use
i have bought now an eagle bill vaporizer and will use it as used in the machine method next time:)

Already placed an order from him should be arriving soon and bought 50gms of Syrian rue :)))
Any tips on how to use it !?

I suggest extracting the harmala alkaloids.  It's absurdly easy and requires only things you're already likely to have in your kitchen.  I have just made about 80g of extract (a single dose is about 120mg in a gel cap).  Find details on the extraction process here (http://erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/syrian_rue_extraction5.shtml).

Alternatively, you you just grind up the seeds and put the powder in a few gel caps and take it that way.  I advise against eating the seeds raw or making a 'tea' as this will be a most unpleasant experience.  Syrian rue tastes awful, which can exacerbate the nausea harmine and harmaline already sometimes produce.

Thanks for the info i am really considering doing the extract and thats why i am asking here cause i want to experience the DMT for far longer then a couple minutes.
So
what method you advise me to use to extract

Thanks in advance
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@anonypsyact, I second the extraction recommendation and thinking of doing it myself as swallowing 3g of grind seeds even in gel caps is no mean feat.

On quantity It might be best to think of them in relation to your weight - 1.5 to 2mg per kilogram of your weight, so at 60kg it would be 120mg as GGA has suggested.

Looking for more trip reports on the extract ... I will try with moclobemide first.
Not sure I will fit it into these tripping days - I have eaten few things I would not want to mix with MAOI :-)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: sleepyg on 23 March 2013, 10:08:03
@GGA

My apologies for the initial confusion in my first post. The vendor is Rainbowbrite123, not Rainbow123 as I had said previously. Link to the vendor page below. I have purchased twice from this vendor and can vouch for the product.

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/80ac6ef804
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 23 March 2013, 10:23:40
@GGA

My apologies for the initial confusion in my first post. The vendor is Rainbowbrite123, not Rainbow123 as I had said previously. Link to the vendor page below. I have purchased twice from this vendor and can vouch for the product.

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/80ac6ef804

Noted.  Thanx.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 23 March 2013, 17:18:01
The purpose of making the harmala extract is to activate DMT for oral doses---i.e., pharmahuasca---though I can attest it also does good things to an LSD trip (and any other oral psychedelic you might be using).

It's also worth noting that it can intensify smoked DMT, though I rarely use it for this.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 23 March 2013, 17:38:27
The purpose of making the harmala extract is to activate DMT for oral doses---i.e., pharmahuasca---though I can attest it also does good things to an LSD trip (and any other oral psychedelic you might be using).

It's also worth noting that it can intensify smoked DMT, though I rarely use it for this.

This is precisely what I was discouraging with my post.  Interestingly, I did exactly this since then---I wanted a quantitative test of my extract before trying a full pharma with it.  I took a good dose of harmala extract and when I felt myself coming up on it, smoked some DMT.  I only smoked residual frost on my pipe, and though I felt like I got a fairly good lungful, the trip was not very strong.  It was pleasant though.  Uncharacteristically, the visuals built gradually and then faded slowly into 'seeing', a mystical practise in which I sometimes engage, but not so often anymore.  The trip ended into a very refreshing spell of meditation.

I didn't feel the lack of speed I spoke of earlier, but that could be because I didn't 'break through' (I also broke the cardinal 'no caffeine' rule by taking the extract with a strong cup of tea).  The trip was certainly prolonged, but did not feel heightened in any way this time ... if anything, it seemed a bit damped.  Nonetheless it was a good trip.  I just wouldn't recommend harmala as a means of going further with with smoked DMT (for the reasons I said earlier).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 23 March 2013, 21:33:47
The purpose of making the harmala extract is to activate DMT for oral doses---i.e., pharmahuasca---though I can attest it also does good things to an LSD trip (and any other oral psychedelic you might be using).

It's also worth noting that it can intensify smoked DMT, though I rarely use it for this.

This is precisely what I was discouraging with my post.  Interestingly, I did exactly this since then---I wanted a quantitative test of my extract before trying a full pharma with it.  I took a good dose of harmala extract and when I felt myself coming up on it, smoked some DMT.  I only smoked residual frost on my pipe, and though I felt like I got a fairly good lungful, the trip was not very strong.  It was pleasant though.  Uncharacteristically, the visuals built gradually and then faded slowly into 'seeing', a mystical practise in which I sometimes engage, but not so often anymore.  The trip ended into a very refreshing spell of meditation.

I didn't feel the lack of speed I spoke of earlier, but that could be because I didn't 'break through' (I also broke the cardinal 'no caffeine' rule by taking the extract with a strong cup of tea).  The trip was certainly prolonged, but did not feel heightened in any way this time ... if anything, it seemed a bit damped.  Nonetheless it was a good trip.  I just wouldn't recommend harmala as a means of going further with with smoked DMT (for the reasons I said earlier).

Ahh, I should have read the previous page. Yeah, I was just saying that it CAN intensify it. IMO, it's not worth it. I just say pack up more DMT. I really only use it for pharmahuasca, though I haven't tried it with LSD and shrooms. I've read some pretty interesting trip reports with shrooms + maoi. The general consensus I got though was that it's better to just take a lot more shrooms than shrooms + maoi.

Time for another +1 for all your posts, brother.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: fractalglobal on 24 March 2013, 18:14:14
I recommend the vinegar method.  This gives you the alkaloids as hydrochloride salts which can easily then be put into a capsule. 



While I'm not familiar with the method you are referring to(I've done aya once, and I am quite happy to leave it at that.  It was an amazing experience but I'm not overly fond of spending 2 hours after the trip ends trying to figure out what humanity is and if it applies to me) given that vinegar is acetic acid, using it in an A/B would produce an acetate, not a hydrocloride salt.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 24 March 2013, 23:35:32
While I'm not familiar with the method you are referring to(I've done aya once, and I am quite happy to leave it at that.  It was an amazing experience but I'm not overly fond of spending 2 hours after the trip ends trying to figure out what humanity is and if it applies to me) given that vinegar is acetic acid, using it in an A/B would produce an acetate, not a hydrocloride salt.

This is true, but the acetates you obtain from the first stage are trapped in a lot of liquid, making them not ideal as an extract.  Thus, to complete the extraction and acquire a dry extract, you add NaCl to a achieve a base-swap which produces HCl salts which then precipitate out.  You can see the details of the process by following the link I provided.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: tooconscious on 25 March 2013, 05:26:46
was browsing through the shroomery and saw someone mentioned this portable vape called ploom pax for dmt. it's damn pricey but looks sweet. obviously you'd need to do a clearnet search. what say you guys?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 25 March 2013, 23:28:36
was browsing through the shroomery and saw someone mentioned this portable vape called ploom pax for dmt. it's damn pricey but looks sweet. obviously you'd need to do a clearnet search. what say you guys?

Since nobody else seems to want to respond, I took a look.  Wow! $250 for a little vape (price from manufacturer webpage)?  I guess you can tell from my previous posts, I'm a classicist when it comes to this stuff.  A glass dick and a lighter is a simple, elegant, and efficient way to smoke DMT.  I agree that it looks cool, but if I were to go fancy, I would go all the way for a volcano (about twice the price, but if you're going to spend $250 on a vape, I say go all the way).  Also, I'm a bit leary of any smoking apparatus that has to come with 'mouthpiece lubricant'. -_o
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: sleepyg on 26 March 2013, 02:49:32
I had some really fantastic DMT trips over this weekend, including one of the most powerful experiences I've had which I'll tell at a later date. I've actually been keeping audio logs for immediately after my experiences, to try to help remember them better.

But the last trip I had (last night) was very odd. As I blasted off into hyperspace, I was in what McKenna would call the "waiting room". Soon after, an image came into view. It had a solid yellow background with a fat little man wearing a top hat and monocle, dressed in what looked like upper class English attire from the early 20th century. He said to me something along the lines of "Sorry chap" and either "not today" or "we're out of order." I was then immediately shot back into my conscious body, fully awake. But I was still tripping hard on DMT, just without the visuals. If anyone has done a low dose, no blast off trip, you'll know what I'm talking about. The air sucked out of the room, everything flowing with electricity feeling. I had those effects for a good ten minutes.

It almost felt like it was telling me that hyperspace was "under construction" or that I was not allowed entry. Like a 404 error on a webpage. But going from 1,000mph in hyperspace to an immediate halt was a real shocker to me. It felt very eerie. I took it as a sign that my mind needed a break, so I've decided to leave spice alone for a bit.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 26 March 2013, 02:57:26
I had some really fantastic DMT trips over this weekend, including one of the most powerful experiences I've had which I'll tell at a later date. I've actually been keeping audio logs for immediately after my experiences, to try to help remember them better.

But the last trip I had (last night) was very odd. As I blasted off into hyperspace, I was in what McKenna would call the "waiting room". Soon after, an image came into view. It had a solid yellow background with a fat little man wearing a top hat and monocle, dressed in what looked like upper class English attire from the early 20th century. He said to me something along the lines of "Sorry chap" and either "not today" or "we're out of order." I was then immediately shot back into my conscious body, fully awake. But I was still tripping hard on DMT, just without the visuals. If anyone has done a low dose, no blast off trip, you'll know what I'm talking about. The air sucked out of the room, everything flowing with electricity feeling. I had those effects for a good ten minutes.

It almost felt like it was telling me that hyperspace was "under construction" or that I was not allowed entry. Like a 404 error on a webpage. But going from 1,000mph in hyperspace to an immediate halt was a real shocker to me. It felt very eerie. I took it as a sign that my mind needed a break, so I've decided to leave spice alone for a bit.

This is very interesting. It seems like a Chrysanthemum, which is defined at the dmt nexus lexicon as "A gigantic, often spinning, fractal flower with a domelike appearance that frequently either welcomes or blocks access to breakthrough hyperspace." But your description makes it seem to look different but cause the same outcome.

Have you ever taken a look at the lexicon? It's very cool and being able to call the things you see in the deep void can help you remember the trips.

Link to it below:

http://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Hyperspace_lexicon
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: sleepyg on 26 March 2013, 03:04:15
I had some really fantastic DMT trips over this weekend, including one of the most powerful experiences I've had which I'll tell at a later date. I've actually been keeping audio logs for immediately after my experiences, to try to help remember them better.

But the last trip I had (last night) was very odd. As I blasted off into hyperspace, I was in what McKenna would call the "waiting room". Soon after, an image came into view. It had a solid yellow background with a fat little man wearing a top hat and monocle, dressed in what looked like upper class English attire from the early 20th century. He said to me something along the lines of "Sorry chap" and either "not today" or "we're out of order." I was then immediately shot back into my conscious body, fully awake. But I was still tripping hard on DMT, just without the visuals. If anyone has done a low dose, no blast off trip, you'll know what I'm talking about. The air sucked out of the room, everything flowing with electricity feeling. I had those effects for a good ten minutes.

It almost felt like it was telling me that hyperspace was "under construction" or that I was not allowed entry. Like a 404 error on a webpage. But going from 1,000mph in hyperspace to an immediate halt was a real shocker to me. It felt very eerie. I took it as a sign that my mind needed a break, so I've decided to leave spice alone for a bit.

This is very interesting. It seems like a Chrysanthemum, which is defined at the dmt nexus lexicon as "A gigantic, often spinning, fractal flower with a domelike appearance that frequently either welcomes or blocks access to breakthrough hyperspace." But your description makes it seem to look different but cause the same outcome.

Have you ever taken a look at the lexicon? It's very cool and being able to call the things you see in the deep void can help you remember the trips.

Link to it below:

http://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Hyperspace_lexicon

Yes, I have been there before. It was actually my first real visual DMT experience, probably my 3rd time trying spice if I recall. This was not the Chrysanthemum. I probably inhaled close to 70mg, taking an extra fourth hit this time when I usually only take three. This had all the beginnings of a regular trip, but with an unusual end.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: tooconscious on 26 March 2013, 03:19:52
good input GGA, thanks. Can I ask what exactly your prefered tool is and where I would be able to find it? I'm pretty new to this stuff and I'd like the best option for solo trips
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: phenbizz on 26 March 2013, 03:41:38
I can attest to trc's changa as giving extreme breakthroughs to both experienced and non users at 150mg. When it comes to straight n,n dmt I have only had moon units and it was breakthrough at 40-50mg, real good jungle spice full spectrum.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 26 March 2013, 04:52:02
But the last trip I had (last night) was very odd. As I blasted off into hyperspace, I was in what McKenna would call the "waiting room". Soon after, an image came into view. It had a solid yellow background with a fat little man wearing a top hat and monocle, dressed in what looked like upper class English attire from the early 20th century. He said to me something along the lines of "Sorry chap" and either "not today" or "we're out of order." I was then immediately shot back into my conscious body, fully awake.

It almost felt like it was telling me that hyperspace was "under construction" or that I was not allowed entry. Like a 404 error on a webpage.

I've had some similar experiences.  This reminds me a bit of what I experienced in my early experimentation when I would try to push off too soon after my last trip.  I didn't get a monocled man, but I would see dancing figures and/or patterns telling me it wasn't going to work.

I like your '404 error' description ... it reminds me of a trip I reported on on p. 7 (my second post on the page).  I did break through that time ... and had a fight with my death.  Anyway, I mentioned knowing that I'd smoked to much ... it was like an error message as you said.  Although I had a full breakthrough I had this splotchy amœba-like patten of purple translucent cells superimposed over my vision for the second half of the trip and had feeling of being sort of perfunctorily floated down the love canal as a consolation prize rather than being admitted to the full show.  I had the certain knowledge that I'd taken too much and overshot the mark (as if I had a neon sign to this effect staring me in the face).

This is very interesting. It seems like a Chrysanthemum, which is defined at the dmt nexus lexicon as "A gigantic, often spinning, fractal flower with a domelike appearance that frequently either welcomes or blocks access to breakthrough hyperspace." But your description makes it seem to look different but cause the same outcome.

This is interesting.  I do get this with most of my trips.  I even thought about writing a description here to see if anybody else did.  I always thought of it more as a rose than a mum, myself.  A rose with a pair of vaginal lips in front that squirm and contort in the gestures of a thousand expressions before parting for me. -_o

Thanx for the link.  I will always prefer my own expressions as they are pulled directly from my experieces, but I will enjoy familiarising myself with the lexicon for the sake of communicating with you guys.

good input GGA, thanks. Can I ask what exactly your prefered tool is and where I would be able to find it? I'm pretty new to this stuff and I'd like the best option for solo trips

When I say 'glass dick', I mean an oil pipe.  They're very inexpensive.  I prefer a tall-flamed lighter, but a bic will do well enough.  You'll find this in any head shop.  Someone posted a pic earlier of what you should look for.  Here it is: http://www.tricities.com/news/article_0f42ead0-75c8-508d-8b55-01589dc39258.html?mode=image&photo=0


EDIT: I think I'm not going to add changa reviews to the OP in general, and I specifically do no want to add trc to the 'good vendor' list.  Here's why: he carries MHRB and has listed DMT in the past, and there are three reviews of his DMT listing on the first page.  All three of them said that no product arrived.  Earlier reviews seem more or less okay, but his rating isn't what it ought to be (especially given the generosity of the ratings given on SR---two of the people from the first page who didn't receive anything still gave 5's).  Also: I could not find a single review for changa bought from trc nor could I find any evidence Moon Unit has ever sold jungle spice.  So I don't know what phenbizz is talking about, and I'm starting to get the impression neither does he. -_o
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 27 March 2013, 09:01:01
Couple of days back I have tried to go deep and do everything to try bring back something with me (those who have seen my earlier posts do know that I do have trouble with recalling anything past the moment of departure and return)

So, I meditated for 10 minutes with only partial success - my mind is pretty good at avoiding shut downs, then spent another 20 minutes or so thinking of my previous trips, recalling entries and exits (all I can bring into focus of my memory) and breathing deeply and calmly.

I took one very big hit from The Machine loaded with 50mg of PPLLUURR's DMT
I do not think that I managed to take the whole lot, but not far from it.

When it hit me it was different - instead of usual bright red, violet, blue, etc colours I was hit by the wave of imagery coloured in dirty green and brown colours. "Shit" was my last thought and I am not sure if this was a thought of recognition or of anticipation of things to come. I think now it was a bit of both.

What happened after is a mystery to me, but I know that I was dragged thru most horrible things that I could imagine that have tested my "go with a flow" motto when going into hyperspace. It felt like I was then put thru an interrogation demanding an acceptance of something - either an action or a principle to the way I approach life that was so scary that I just locked up. How long it lasted is a mystery but when I came back I had a split second of clarity of what that message was just to disappear yet again behind that wall that separates hyperspace and this reality in my mind.

Now I think it might be a blessing that my ego does protect itself so well from those insights.

Not sure when I am going back

UPDATE: Clearly it is not the DMT of PPLLUURR that is a culprit - this is my 5th or 6th time smoking it and none of the previous experiences were of this nature.  I must have angered these elves alright. I just wonder by what.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 27 March 2013, 09:32:35
It felt like I was then put thru an interrogation demanding an acceptance of something - either an action or a principle to the way I approach life that was so scary that I just locked up.

Might be hard to wrap your head around, but this could be a good thing.  One of the best things about DMT is it doesn't let you off the hook.  It forces you to see yourself for what you are, and this can definitely be frightening or (as in my case) devastating ... but it's worth it.  Don't give up.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 27 March 2013, 17:40:25
I've tried many different methods over the many years I've been smoking DMT and the glass vapor genie is by far the best method that I have ever found. I have a volcano also and I find the gvg is much better for dmt. I cannot recommend it enough. It blows my mind when I see people saying they take 4-5 hits and don't break through. It is not even possible to take 4 or 5 hits with the genie if you use it properly. Many people break through with 1 hit. If you are serious about dmt and want to get the most out of your experience, get a glass vapor genie.

I second this. Although I have not used a volcano to compare it to. GVG is the best.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: anonpsyact on 27 March 2013, 18:23:48
Thank You for the advises !

So i extracted the syrian rue using vinegar method and salt and after freezing i separated the dark liquid from the Crystals and let them dry on a radiator and it gave me a fair amount of a light brown powder .
I then boiled the dark liquid until all there was was this orange pasty material and i let it dry also.
i am planing to do the freebase with sodium bicarbonate on them.
My question now is what is the good stuff the light brown powder or the orange paste ( now dry)?

 Thank You .
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: 4theCause on 27 March 2013, 23:17:45
pretty sure jor's in stock now, you should update the OP :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 28 March 2013, 00:25:32
i am planing to do the freebase with sodium bicarbonate on them.
My question now is what is the good stuff the light brown powder or the orange paste ( now dry)?

 Thank You .

The extract is the brown powder.  You could have just poured the orange liquid down then drain.  Do you mean you're going to eat the extract with baking soda?  Why?  To mask the taste?  I prefer gel caps.  Baking soda is an antacid and will slow down your digestive processes.  I think the extract should still absorb easily within a normal time-frame, but it's conceivable this would cause it to take longer to kick in.

pretty sure jor's in stock now, you should update the OP :)

Right you are.  Done.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: anonman88 on 28 March 2013, 02:06:28
just received a gram from moon unit and a point from curiosity1, already tried the stuff from moon unit and it is awesome :) the stuff from curiosity looks good, but haven't had an opportunity to properly sample it yet.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: sleepyg on 28 March 2013, 06:59:49
Might be hard to wrap your head around, but this could be a good thing.  One of the best things about DMT is it doesn't let you off the hook.  It forces you to see yourself for what you are, and this can definitely be frightening or (as in my case) devastating ... but it's worth it.  Don't give up.

Agreed. I've had an experience that shook me to my core and didn't leave me for awhile. Upon reflection, I'm glad it happened.

I've tried many different methods over the many years I've been smoking DMT and the glass vapor genie is by far the best method that I have ever found. I have a volcano also and I find the gvg is much better for dmt. I cannot recommend it enough. It blows my mind when I see people saying they take 4-5 hits and don't break through. It is not even possible to take 4 or 5 hits with the genie if you use it properly. Many people break through with 1 hit. If you are serious about dmt and want to get the most out of your experience, get a glass vapor genie.

I've always had great success with The Machine. The reason I take 3 hits is because my lungs just can't handle it all at once. I've been a smoker for some time now. And although I think I could achieve a breakthrough using The Machine with only one hit, I'd prefer to let my lungs have a break.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 28 March 2013, 07:51:17
Might be hard to wrap your head around, but this could be a good thing.  One of the best things about DMT is it doesn't let you off the hook.  It forces you to see yourself for what you are, and this can definitely be frightening or (as in my case) devastating ... but it's worth it.  Don't give up.

Agreed. I've had an experience that shook me to my core and didn't leave me for awhile. Upon reflection, I'm glad it happened.

I've tried many different methods over the many years I've been smoking DMT and the glass vapor genie is by far the best method that I have ever found. I have a volcano also and I find the gvg is much better for dmt. I cannot recommend it enough. It blows my mind when I see people saying they take 4-5 hits and don't break through. It is not even possible to take 4 or 5 hits with the genie if you use it properly. Many people break through with 1 hit. If you are serious about dmt and want to get the most out of your experience, get a glass vapor genie.

I've always had great success with The Machine. The reason I take 3 hits is because my lungs just can't handle it all at once. I've been a smoker for some time now. And although I think I could achieve a breakthrough using The Machine with only one hit, I'd prefer to let my lungs have a break.


I second the machine - genious invention.
Is there anybody here who can compare the machine and GVG?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: tooconscious on 28 March 2013, 08:07:03
Hey GGA or others who might have some input - I had some general questions about dmt and I didn't want to derail this thread so I posted them in this one here. http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=137323.30

If anyone can pitch in their thoughts I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: anonpsyact on 28 March 2013, 08:44:57
i am planing to do the freebase with sodium bicarbonate on them.
My question now is what is the good stuff the light brown powder or the orange paste ( now dry)?

 Thank You .

The extract is the brown powder.  You could have just poured the orange liquid down then drain.  Do you mean you're going to eat the extract with baking soda?  Why?  To mask the taste?  I prefer gel caps.  Baking soda is an antacid and will slow down your digestive processes.  I think the extract should still absorb easily within a normal time-frame, but it's conceivable this would cause it to take longer to kick in.


Because the salt was used i am thinking in purify it some more not to mask the taste hehe;) maybe i should read some more on how to purify ...
Thank You i am throwing the orange stuff away then;)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 28 March 2013, 09:33:40
Because the salt was used i am thinking in purify it some more not to mask the taste hehe;) maybe i should read some more on how to purify ...
Thank You i am throwing the orange stuff away then;)

I used too much salt in part of my last extraction and had some salty extract.  Here's what you do: heat some water and mix the extract into it.  Make sure it's thoroughly mixed so that everything that can be dissolved gets dissolved.  This should remove the salt.  Let the water cool in the fridge until all the particulate matter has settled (the water will probably turn yellow/orange).  Pour off the clear liquid, filter the solids out of the rest and dry.  This is just a repeat of the last few steps of the extraction, but it should dissolve away any excess NaCl.

This won't make the extract good-tasting, however.  The alkaloids themselves taste very bad, and if you're not going to use gel caps, I recommend taking the powder sub-lingually to minimise its contact with your taste buds.  The baking soda may help too ... at least, I don't think it'll really harm anything, so feel free.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 28 March 2013, 12:28:33
I have not run out of stock yet, but I see some new names on the vendors list in DMT category and was wondering if anyone here has any dealings with DutchGuy, Asylum or NewTimes? Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: fractalglobal on 28 March 2013, 23:15:56
wait.. I'm unfamiliar with the method you guys are referring to, but I assume its an acid base extraction using acetic acid rather than the more popular hydrocloric acid?

You probably wanna use a stronger basifying agent, from personal experience, DMT can withstand some pretty extreme PH's, I've extracted good quantities from PH 13 soln with a warm shellite wash. use NaOH if possible.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 29 March 2013, 00:29:44
wait.. I'm unfamiliar with the method you guys are referring to, but I assume its an acid base extraction using acetic acid rather than the more popular hydrocloric acid?

You probably wanna use a stronger basifying agent, from personal experience, DMT can withstand some pretty extreme PH's, I've extracted good quantities from PH 13 soln with a warm shellite wash. use NaOH if possible.

-1

Please inform yourself before pontificating.  We are talking about extracting harmala alkaloids from syrian rue seeds, not DMT.  This is the same process which you erroneously corrected me about on the last page, rather than consulting the extraction guide which I had linked.  Here it is once again: http://erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/syrian_rue_extraction2.shtml
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: fractalglobal on 29 March 2013, 02:23:26
Ahh, I believe I've made the same mistake twice in a single thread.  I'll excuse myself by saying that I was still piecing myself together after taking DMT for the first time in years.  ;)).
Given that harmala/harmaline  and DMT are quite closely linked in terms of psychoactives, having a dedicated discussion thread devoted to one can make it difficult to keep track of the subject.

I had a look over the link you posted, it looks like a fairly decent extraction technique.  Would recrystallizing with IPA be worthwhile?  IPA should work, or any decent quality alcohol.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: sleepyg on 29 March 2013, 02:48:18
I have not run out of stock yet, but I see some new names on the vendors list in DMT category and was wondering if anyone here has any dealings with DutchGuy, Asylum or NewTimes? Thanks a lot!

Nothing to do with your quote, but I wanted to reply to you directly per your troubles on remembering your experiences. I too have found that some trips I cannot remember. Most of these are when I seriously blast way off. But I did have a couple questions for you, hoping that maybe we shared something in common that would cause the memory loss.

1. Do you have ADD or ADHD?
2. Do you take any SSRI's?
2. Do you use any narcotic(such as a painkiller), specifically one whose half life could extend into the time you smoke DMT?
3. Do you have hyperthyroidism or a low body temperature?
4. Do you take any allergy pills?
5. Do you use any energy boosters such as caffeine, ephedrine, or speed?

I know these sound like silly questions, and most likely have nothing to do with DMT use. But I do know that some of these things should be avoided while using something like changa (with an MAOI).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 29 March 2013, 03:46:42
I have not run out of stock yet, but I see some new names on the vendors list in DMT category and was wondering if anyone here has any dealings with DutchGuy, Asylum or NewTimes? Thanks a lot!

Nothing to do with your quote, but I wanted to reply to you directly per your troubles on remembering your experiences. I too have found that some trips I cannot remember. Most of these are when I seriously blast way off. But I did have a couple questions for you, hoping that maybe we shared something in common that would cause the memory loss.

1. Do you have ADD or ADHD?
2. Do you take any SSRI's?
2. Do you use any narcotic(such as a painkiller), specifically one whose half life could extend into the time you smoke DMT?
3. Do you have hyperthyroidism or a low body temperature?
4. Do you take any allergy pills?
5. Do you use any energy boosters such as caffeine, ephedrine, or speed?

I know these sound like silly questions, and most likely have nothing to do with DMT use. But I do know that some of these things should be avoided while using something like changa (with an MAOI).

I think the memory loss is quite common, and the link between you two is that you both smoke DMT.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: fractalglobal on 29 March 2013, 04:54:53
Clearnet link:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16962

Seems that recrystalizing with IPA/etOH results in an odd reaction.   Other threads show harmaline fumarate via dripping anhydrous fumaric acid saturated acetone(FASA) has a pretty high level of purity, the crystals look amazing.


Re: memory loss from DMT.  Links have been found between DMT and 'dreaming', given that most people do not remember their dreams within a few hours of waking up, I'd say its a similar idea.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 29 March 2013, 05:11:20
I had a look over the link you posted, it looks like a fairly decent extraction technique.  Would recrystallizing with IPA be worthwhile?  IPA should work, or any decent quality alcohol.

I'm not a chemist or anything, and I'm not sure whether the harmala salts are soluble in alcohol.  In any case, it's not clear to me that ethanol would be the correct solvent for a re-crystalisation.  An alcohol wash would certainly remove the NaCl, but using an IPA would leave behind some contaminants (complete purity really isn't a big deal, but the combination of yeast with an MOAI is a big no-no).  Of course, the larger issue is that I'd rather drink the beer and do the hot water wash I described above. -_o

Also: I will be performing my first DMT extraction soon, and so we'll get a chance to talk about that.  My MHRB tried to arrived yesterday while I was away, but I requested redelivery for tomorrow.  I have pretty much everything ready, but I won't have time to extract until 2--3 weeks from now.  Anyway, I've heard about extracting jungle spice from the left-overs, but have not found a tek for this.  Has anyone here done this before?  If so, would you care to write up some instructions?

EDIT:
Seems that recrystalizing with IPA/etOH results in an odd reaction.   Other threads show harmaline fumarate via dripping anhydrous fumaric acid saturated acetone(FASA) has a pretty high level of purity, the crystals look amazing.

I did see something like this during my initial research.  This is overkill where I'm concerned.  The beauty of this technique is its simplicity and accessibility.  If you're taking this stuff to activate DMT, you'll only need 100--200mg of extract (without any refinement).  Even with the excess NaCl, the extract I had was much more than concentrated enough for a dose to fit in a gel cap.  The real reason to wash out the salt was that its weight was throwing off my dosage calculations (only part of the batch was salty, and so I couldn't just do a fixed ratio of the yield or anything simple like that).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: sleepyg on 29 March 2013, 05:51:43
I have not run out of stock yet, but I see some new names on the vendors list in DMT category and was wondering if anyone here has any dealings with DutchGuy, Asylum or NewTimes? Thanks a lot!

Nothing to do with your quote, but I wanted to reply to you directly per your troubles on remembering your experiences. I too have found that some trips I cannot remember. Most of these are when I seriously blast way off. But I did have a couple questions for you, hoping that maybe we shared something in common that would cause the memory loss.

1. Do you have ADD or ADHD?
2. Do you take any SSRI's?
2. Do you use any narcotic(such as a painkiller), specifically one whose half life could extend into the time you smoke DMT?
3. Do you have hyperthyroidism or a low body temperature?
4. Do you take any allergy pills?
5. Do you use any energy boosters such as caffeine, ephedrine, or speed?

I know these sound like silly questions, and most likely have nothing to do with DMT use. But I do know that some of these things should be avoided while using something like changa (with an MAOI).

I think the memory loss is quite common, and the link between you two is that you both smoke DMT.

You're probably 100% correct.

GGA: The link to dreaming makes a lot of sense. On the flip side, as I've mentioned before, since using DMT I have had more memorable and vivid dreams.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 29 March 2013, 08:52:36
I think the memory loss is quite common, and the link between you two is that you both smoke DMT.

You're probably 100% correct.

I concur.   I had trouble bringing back very much of the experience at first.  I described my first trip earlier ... but that memory was recovered over the course of subsequent trips.  Even after I started being able to remember, I would forget pieces that would come back to me later (usually while tripping on DMT again).

One interesting instance was not long ago: my first trial with pimpit's DMT which gave me such an unusual experience.  Part of the reason that I was so convinced at the end of that trip that I'd been 5-MeO'd was that I'd forgotten a large portion of the trip, and remembered mostly the parts which differed from my previous DMT trips.  I recollected it immediately the next time I pushed off (later the same night), and this fortunately contributed to the radical reversal of my opinion about this vendor's product.  I'm considering another high-dose experiment (~50mg, as opposed to my usual dose of 10--15mg) perhaps on Saturday.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: anonpsyact on 29 March 2013, 09:29:11
Thank You GGA i did what you advised me and now i get a more realistic outcome from 50gm syrian rue seeds i have now 5 gm  wile before i had 12,5(did it 2 times)
3 boils with some lemon drops and vinegar, mixed all the tea from it filtered 2 times boiled and added salt, let it cool down to room temp, filtered the excess salt, then fridge for 30 mnts or more then freezer couple hours, collected the crystals, let them dry,then 2 dissolves in warm water and freezer.
I have ordered MHRB yesterday also should arrive next week and i m giving it a go on extraction8)
What method would be advised for a first time extraction?

Thank You!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 29 March 2013, 09:37:15
I have not run out of stock yet, but I see some new names on the vendors list in DMT category and was wondering if anyone here has any dealings with DutchGuy, Asylum or NewTimes? Thanks a lot!

Nothing to do with your quote, but I wanted to reply to you directly per your troubles on remembering your experiences. I too have found that some trips I cannot remember. Most of these are when I seriously blast way off. But I did have a couple questions for you, hoping that maybe we shared something in common that would cause the memory loss.

1. Do you have ADD or ADHD?
2. Do you take any SSRI's?
2. Do you use any narcotic(such as a painkiller), specifically one whose half life could extend into the time you smoke DMT?
3. Do you have hyperthyroidism or a low body temperature?
4. Do you take any allergy pills?
5. Do you use any energy boosters such as caffeine, ephedrine, or speed?

I know these sound like silly questions, and most likely have nothing to do with DMT use. But I do know that some of these things should be avoided while using something like changa (with an MAOI).

@sleepyg, thanks a lot for your interest and suggestion of help.
I am not sure how far I blast off, but certainly there are no links to this reality after few "entry" seconds. While I lose my link to my body on DMT it is a very different experience from my peak LSD trip where even my sense of "I"/my ego got torn to pieces in a gazillion of deaths. Here I never do lose my body-less identity. Since I remember pretty much every detail from my acid trips this DMT amnesia is a very bad feeling as I feel it deprives me of some very valuable insight. I am very keen to solve it!

Here are my answers:
1. Do you have ADD or ADHD?
No
2. Do you take any SSRI's?
Never tried one - never had the need.
2. Do you use any narcotic(such as a painkiller), specifically one whose half life could extend into the time you smoke DMT?
The only thing that could be that is alcohol, but I usually leave 24 hours since my last part taking. Other than that the only other pills I occasionally use are aspirin and paracetamol, but not within 12 hours of DMT
3. Do you have hyperthyroidism or a low body temperature?
Never heard of this before. I suppose this means no. If anything I do run hot. Pressure is on a low-normal side.
4. Do you take any allergy pills?
I do not have any allergies ... Well, I am allergic to being scammed in SR and then need a chill-pill.
5. Do you use any energy boosters such as caffeine, ephedrine, or speed?
Caffeine - yes, 2-3 times a week I do get a cup of good coffee in ... Mostly this would be in the morning and my DMT smoking is normally late at night right before going to bed.

If this could be of help - I would not call my memory strong at best of times, but LSD made it better. This is worse :-)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 29 March 2013, 09:58:13
Thank You GGA i did what you advised me and now i get a more realistic outcome from 50gm syrian rue seeds i have now 5 gm  wile before i had 12,5(did it 2 times)

I have ordered MHRB yesterday also should arrive next week and i m giving it a go on extraction8)
What method would be advised for a first time extraction?

Hmmm ... I'm glad you managed to get rid of the NaCl, but 5g is still a lot.  You should expect about 2g from 50g of raw seed.  As I was saying to fractalglobal though, impurities are not that big a deal as long as you know how much to take.  Provided your extract is pretty homogeneous, I would advise simply calculating doses by proportion ... e.g., 500mg of extract should contain about 200mg of pure alkaloids which ought to be more than sufficient for a pharma trip (you might want to take a little less if you're small or prone to nausea).

My upcoming DMT extraction will also be my first ... so I'm not an authority on this, but the tek I've seen referenced the most is Norman's 'DMT for the Masses'.  Find it here (http://erowid.org/plants/mimosa/mimosa_chemistry1.shtml).  You may also want to browse dmt-nexus.me, as there is a lot of information on this available there.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 29 March 2013, 15:32:19
Hey GGA and others: In case you're interested, here is a beginner STB DMT extracted from MHRB I put together.

In this outline I use amounts specific to 200g of MHRB.

Ingredients:
100% caustic soda
naphtha
water
and of course MHRB

Tools:
CLEAR Glass jar (size depends on size of extraction)
Pipettes
Small - medium jar
Glass baking dish
Measuring jug / scale (you can scale out the liquids are well, but not the measuring jug for the solids)

optional but helpful:
funnel
dust mask, goggles, and gloves -- only necessary when handling lye (caustic soda). I only used gloves.

1. Wash you main jar thoroughly.

2. Add  1,000 mL (doesn't need to be exact) of water to the jar. (tap or purified) 1 mL water = 1g, if you are using a scale.

3. Add in 50g of lye to the jar. Once it is all in, give it a slight shake / swirl until it is completely dissolved.

4. Now filter in 200g of MHRB.

5. Give it a shake for a minute or two, it should be uniform consistency when you're done shaking.

6. Now store this is a dark and undisturbed place for 24 hours. A cabinet or closet is perfectly fine.

DAY TWO -- DO NOT SHAKE THE JAR AT THIS POINT OR UNTIL I TELL YOU TO DO SO.

7. Add 200 mL of napatha to the jar. (If i remember correctly 1 mL of naphtha = 0.7 g. But you should use your pipette and scale to confirm this.)

8. Fill a crockpot about half-way with water and turn it on. The water should get to be 55-60 C or 130-140 F.

9. Leave the jar in the heated bath for 30 to 40 minutes.

10. Take out your solution gently (have a towel ready to set it on). Open the cap to release and built up pressure.

11. Now, with the lid on, shake the jar firmly but not too hard for about 1-1.5 minutes.  Do not make it slosh too hard. I go with a firm side to side shake that does not cover a very long width.

12. Return the jar to the bath. Allow it to sit for 4 hours. This will separate the naphtha containing the DMT to the top.

13. After the time is up, very, very gently remove the jar from the bath, set it on your towel, remove the cap, and allow to cool. DO NOT SHAKE.

14. Once cooled use you pipette to extract the top layer of clear solution from the jar and put in your smaller jar. You can observe a line in the jar which is what you extract. Always keep the nozzle as high as you can to avoid sucking the impurities. Try to get as much as you can but don't sweat it about the very bottom, because most of the DMT is at the very top of the naphtha.

15.  Now put the naphtha on a well cleaned glass baking dish and put this in the freezer for 24-36 hours -- until crystals are present -- usually 24 hours.

16. Take the dish out of the freezer very gently. If you shake it, they will dissolve into the naphtha. Using your pipette remove any excess naphtha.

17. Set this dish in the same dark undisturbed place as you put the jar (or one similar) with a flat top covering it. Allow the naphtha to evaporate for a couple days or until it is gone. You should not smell any naphtha.

18. Scrape the DMT from the tray. Now judge whether you need to recrystallize it based on texture and color, but more so texture. I may post a recrystallization method but perhaps not because there are many out there and they are all fairly similar. If done correctly recrystallization should be unnecessary. 

----- Repeat all steps after step 7 with new naphtha each time doing a second, third, fourth pull, until you no longer yield any crystals. The more MHRB you use, the more pulls you should do.

PEACE -- DMTisinME  :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 29 March 2013, 15:44:20
@DMTisinME, the way you deliver it is so fool-proof I think even I can do it.
This deserves +1, but, unfortunately, you are in that 72h quarantine :-(
To extract in full you say that it is only naphtha that goes in again ... No more lye, shaking, etc needed?
What colour DMT do you normally get as a result?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 29 March 2013, 15:47:02
Might be hard to wrap your head around, but this could be a good thing.  One of the best things about DMT is it doesn't let you off the hook.  It forces you to see yourself for what you are, and this can definitely be frightening or (as in my case) devastating ... but it's worth it.  Don't give up.

Agreed. I've had an experience that shook me to my core and didn't leave me for awhile. Upon reflection, I'm glad it happened.

I've tried many different methods over the many years I've been smoking DMT and the glass vapor genie is by far the best method that I have ever found. I have a volcano also and I find the gvg is much better for dmt. I cannot recommend it enough. It blows my mind when I see people saying they take 4-5 hits and don't break through. It is not even possible to take 4 or 5 hits with the genie if you use it properly. Many people break through with 1 hit. If you are serious about dmt and want to get the most out of your experience, get a glass vapor genie.

I've always had great success with The Machine. The reason I take 3 hits is because my lungs just can't handle it all at once. I've been a smoker for some time now. And although I think I could achieve a breakthrough using The Machine with only one hit, I'd prefer to let my lungs have a break.


I second the machine - genious invention.
Is there anybody here who can compare the machine and GVG?

The machine is great for beginners or anybody who can't afford a gvg but the gvg is the best method I've ever used, hands down. I won't smoke dmt any other way.

@dondada, thank you.
I know lots of people who do agree, but you are the first one who settles on GVG after using The Machine.
What makes GVG superior in your eyes?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 29 March 2013, 15:57:53
if anyone is aware of any reliable MHRB suppliers please send me a PM! i've had to switch suppliers and the quality of bark has gone way down :'(
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 29 March 2013, 16:03:33
if anyone is aware of any reliable MHRB suppliers please send me a PM! i've had to switch suppliers and the quality of bark has gone way down :'(

See this thread ... Or pm GGA - he has gotten some info and has ordered from one very recently.
Whom did you use before? Might be worth while mentioning them to avoid other readers falling into the same trap?

It is just much more efficient. Less dmt is wasted and since it is specifically made for smoking, it is much easier to use than the machine. I honestly can breakthrough with one big hit from the machine. I prefer to take very large hits but not everybody does. It is possible to take massive hits with the gvg which I like. It makes it easier to break through on a smaller amount than other methods require.

Makes sense and makes it appealing.
I hear that people use 10 screens to avoid DMT leaking into the body. Your experience as well?
I wish I could get it in store for cash - not sure I want to have this purchase appearing on my credit card.
Or am I a bit too paranoid?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 29 March 2013, 16:11:48
See this thread ... Or pm GGA - he has gotten some info and has ordered from one very recently.
Whom did you use before? Might be worth while mentioning them to avoid other readers falling into the same trap?

good call. in the past i went with either sonoran song or mhrb.biz or whatever it was based out of the west coast and both were of high quality. sonoran song especially. these days it seems i have to go with CENSORED and while they have been great at delivering the package, the quality and yield dropped considerably.

Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: RainbowSlipandSlide on 29 March 2013, 16:47:40
dmt is to be taking with high caution and in my opinion best maybe once or twice a year, not more.


A cheeky fast and with high product vendor I chose for my first dmt order on the Road was mahakala , very friendly and fast communicatino. The country they send it from is no problem, I was scared at first but than it came flying in so fast that I was amazed. These guys def have a large network with different nodes for dispatch- >   http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/a558c7d69b

I have never done DMT before but I would like to in the future. The only thing I see odd in your comment is "dmt is to be taking with high caution and in my opinion best maybe once or twice a year, not more." DMT is naturally produced in the body and your brain craves DMT so once or twice a year makes no sense. DMT is as natural to your brain as your urine is to peeing on a jellyfish sting or a cut to sterilize. Taking LSD or some of these other designer psychedelics like 2-CB, and the list goes on, could be harmful to the body. When taking those substances, yes, once or twice a year seems legit.

I am a HEAVY sleeper and a HEAVY dreamer. My dreams are very intense and very life like to the point of I typically can remember them VIVIDLY and have my entire life. The only difference is during my brain driven DMT trip, which happens every night for me, I am "unconscious," where as taking DMT while awake is a "conscious" experience. I see no difference beyond that one experience is a forced and the other is passive.

If you can elaborate to me why you feel this way I would greatly appreciate it. I understand the intensity of the trip based on everything I have read about and watched based on the book DMT the spirit molecule, but the only thing that would lead me to believe once or twice a year is plenty is the possibility of  a reality split.

If anyone else would like to elaborate feel free.

Thanks
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ozymandias888 on 29 March 2013, 17:25:26
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I have never done DMT before but I would like to in the future. The only thing I see odd in your comment is "dmt is to be taking with high caution and in my opinion best maybe once or twice a year, not more." DMT is naturally produced in the body and your brain craves DMT so once or twice a year makes no sense. DMT is as natural to your brain as your urine is to peeing on a jellyfish sting or a cut to sterilize. Taking LSD or some of these other designer psychedelics like 2-CB, and the list goes on, could be harmful to the body. When taking those substances, yes, once or twice a year seems legit.

Do DMT. You'll see what he means... I had a period of time where I did DMT maybe 1-2 times a week for around 3 weeks, broke through every time. My next to last trip was one of the most incredible, crazy, harrowing, wonderful, terrifying, and sublime experiences I have ever encountered (I wrote a synopsis of it here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/15w04w/my_ultimate_experience_on_dmt/).

I'm deeply glad to have had it, but I wasn't right in the head for almost two weeks.

Ozzy
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 29 March 2013, 17:44:12
i can say from experience that doing DMT too often or recklessly and without proper preparation and respect, it'll stab your entire being with reality before wrapping you in a cosmic blanket to be confused for the next few hours/days/weeks. i've even read reports of people being "thrown out" of the DMT space by whatever governing entity or subconscious creation they were interacting with. notably Robert Hunter.

seems to work best on it's own or with other tryptamine associated compounds. makes the transition a little easier ime.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: RainbowSlipandSlide on 29 March 2013, 18:37:16
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I have never done DMT before but I would like to in the future. The only thing I see odd in your comment is "dmt is to be taking with high caution and in my opinion best maybe once or twice a year, not more." DMT is naturally produced in the body and your brain craves DMT so once or twice a year makes no sense. DMT is as natural to your brain as your urine is to peeing on a jellyfish sting or a cut to sterilize. Taking LSD or some of these other designer psychedelics like 2-CB, and the list goes on, could be harmful to the body. When taking those substances, yes, once or twice a year seems legit.

Do DMT. You'll see what he means... I had a period of time where I did DMT maybe 1-2 times a week for around 3 weeks, broke through every time. My next to last trip was one of the most incredible, crazy, harrowing, wonderful, terrifying, and sublime experiences I have ever encountered (I wrote a synopsis of it here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/15w04w/my_ultimate_experience_on_dmt/).

I'm deeply glad to have had it, but I wasn't right in the head for almost two weeks.

Ozzy

Thanks, I will definatly check out the read.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 29 March 2013, 19:01:04
I use chore boy instead of screens. I think it works much better. It comes with one screen already in it. I just take that screen out and put chore boy in. Some dmt will leak through eventually but it is through consistent use. I just clean it and recrystallize it.

@dondada,
+1 for details!!!
Sorry, but I have to ask:
- what is a chore boy?
- how do you recrystallise the DMT? (I might want to do it too since my machine has been in constant use for a while now)
Thanks again!!!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: RainbowSlipandSlide on 29 March 2013, 19:07:27
i can say from experience that doing DMT too often or recklessly and without proper preparation and respect, it'll stab your entire being with reality before wrapping you in a cosmic blanket to be confused for the next few hours/days/weeks. i've even read reports of people being "thrown out" of the DMT space by whatever governing entity or subconscious creation they were interacting with. notably Robert Hunter.

seems to work best on it's own or with other tryptamine associated compounds. makes the transition a little easier ime.

I figured it was something along the lines about defining reality and the inner deep space. I can tell you I have had many experiences just from dreaming alone that have had me waking up wondering if I was really awake or still asleep.

One dream in particular that really stands out in my mind and I can relate it to someone who has had DMT out of body experiences is, I was standing in the middle of a room, average size room with blue walls. I hear a voice and turn around and a very chubby old man with a white beard, santa like, was there. I do not remember what was said but as soon as I made visual contact with him the walls in the room turned white and the expanse of the room deepened and faded to translucent walls and I could see all the stars around me. Below me, above me and all around me were twinkling stars and darkness. Santa as I will call him was pointing this way and that just speaking about what we were seeing. We were moving quickly through space, at what I would assume to be light speed because of how quickly we moved from star cluster to star cluster. All of this occurring while I am standing in the translucent room that I just cannot quite believe is real and I have moments of fear because there appears to be no floor below me. This was blowing my mind. We flew through super novas and around red giants, into other galaxies with planets that had living creatures on them, much like humans, although not the same. Again I do not remember what he was saying, but at that moment everything made perfect sense. We finally slow down and come to a stand still, I am still amazed at this room that flys through space. I jump up and down to make sure I am still no the floor I started out on. As santa continued to talk I look up and some very wildly shaped spheres started to grow above me and I shrank down and was enveloped into a space craft that then entered into a battle with other space craft floating around the sphere that has now become hollow and more like the metal that holds the structure together. From this moment I do not remember much, but the feeling was more raw, more gritty and grab the "oh shit" handle in your car feeling when I entered the space craft.

These kinds of dreams are common place for me and happen on a nightly basis. Some more intense than others. Sometimes I wake out of them and have a hard time with reality. I get a little panicky, a little anxious. I have had moments were I get up and walk around the house and just look at stuff, touch things and try to ground myself so I can go back to sleep. Even though I feel like this, it is in these moments that I find myself internally, not in the brain, but in my core to be at peace. The feeling in my mind is separate from this calmness, almost detached, but the mind still has a way of butting in.

I cannot not necessarily say I am prepared for a conscious DMT trip but I have certainly had MANY experiences similar to what people express subconsciously in dreamstate. I will certainly take the "everything in moderation" quote to heart.

Thanks again
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 29 March 2013, 19:34:27
@DMTisinME, the way you deliver it is so fool-proof I think even I can do it.
This deserves +1, but, unfortunately, you are in that 72h quarantine :-(
To extract in full you say that it is only naphtha that goes in again ... No more lye, shaking, etc needed?
What colour DMT do you normally get as a result?

Simply start over at step 7. No more lye, but do add the same amount of naphtha, then 40 minutes in the hot bath, the jar shake, then 4 hours back in the bath, extract naphtha ........ and so on.

I get very fine, very white crystals, like snow.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: sleepyg on 29 March 2013, 20:08:19
i can say from experience that doing DMT too often or recklessly and without proper preparation and respect, it'll stab your entire being with reality before wrapping you in a cosmic blanket to be confused for the next few hours/days/weeks. i've even read reports of people being "thrown out" of the DMT space by whatever governing entity or subconscious creation they were interacting with. notably Robert Hunter.

seems to work best on it's own or with other tryptamine associated compounds. makes the transition a little easier ime.

This is relates to me quite a bit right now. I think I may be over doing it. I was doing it every weekend, 2-3 times a night. I believe that I have sincerely been "thrown out". I told a story earlier in the thread about being denied access. I told myself I needed a break. Waited only 3 days because I was being stubborn. Tried 3 times in a row. Every time, nothing. Tried the next day, nothing again. Even loading up higher amounts literally had no effect.

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 30 March 2013, 03:22:10
UPDATE: MHRB arrived today and it looks delicious.  Of course, I don't know how potent it is yet, but when I extract, I'll let y'all know.

@Shy Guyy: It'll be a few weeks yet before I can vouch for the potency of the stuff I got, but feel free to pm me for the source.

@DMTisinME: +1  Excellent.  Thank you so much.  I know I already asked, but have you ever pulled jungle spice?  Xylene seems to be a bit expensive and I want to make sure I know what to do with it before I buy some.

@RainbowSlipandSlide: You won't know what DMT is until you try it.  I don't mind reading about your dreams, but building up a lot of preconceptions about what the experience is like will not help you.  It's best to come to the experience honestly: acknowledging that you DON'T yet know what the drug will teach you.  This is part of having an appropriate sense of reverence for DMT, which is important.

Most people on this thread seem to use DMT more than once or twice a year, and I don't think putting a limit on it is particularly helpful.  I've tended to smoke DMT in bursts.  I'll push off 2 or 3 times a week for a few weeks and then I'll leave it alone for months.  I don't do this to 'pace myself' or anything like that ... this is a drug that tells you when to use it and when not to.  It's just natural to step away from it at certain points, and from what sleepyg has been saying, it sounds like if you ignore its suggestions the drug might simply refuse you.

In reference to your dream, one thing DMT taught me is that light-speed travel is actually the same thing as death.  This isn't really related to your question, and I realise it might be hard to wrap your mind around... but it's true.

@dondada: Thanx for your input.  GVG definitely seems to be the most popular method.  Personally, I'm a bit flabbergasted when people talk about taking 3 and 4 hits ... I've always used a glass dick and never needed more than one small hit.  In fact, the only times 'hyperspace' has ever refused me was when I got greedy and tried to take two.  I think if you prepare your mind, you can get away with using much less than people say (I do).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: greenturtle on 30 March 2013, 04:18:06
Please, no body flame me...

*FIRST DMT EXPERIENCE*

I recently tried Rogerpetes DMT

I know I did not do it exactly the preferred way, but, I put it into a cigarette...I dont smoke weed.

It started smoking and I took a few large drags, and I chased the smoke of the cherry of the cigarette.

I took about 3 hits and I started to feel it. Visually it was like a light acid trip peak, but I had kind of a heavy body feeling, almost like I was being squeezed. I had to sit down, but it wasn't uncomfortable, just VERY powerful... different.

It kind of scared me because it came so fast.

I was in my house and Ive had a very long week, and Im tired, can this maybe cause this...I am usually well rested before using LSD or Shrooms.

I am not saying anything bad about Rogerpete, like I said this was my first time.

Are these normal feelings?

Thanks, long post...sorry, lol.

GT

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 30 March 2013, 05:12:19
Are these normal feelings?

Yes.  It's completely normal for DMT to be a hell of a lot scarier than LSD or shrooms, rest or no rest.  Have you ever smoked salvia?  I feel like this is good preparation for appreciating the smoked DMT experience.  Also: nicotine and DMT?  Yech.  You're going to want to start vaping your DMT ASAP.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 30 March 2013, 09:05:59
@greenturtle, you are lucky that you did not get a lot ... Read a bit more on it herea and on DMT-nexus before doing it again, please. You will enjoy it a lot more knowing that you are not making any obvious mistakes. Best of luck!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 30 March 2013, 20:29:52
@DMTisinME: +1  Excellent.  Thank you so much.  I know I already asked, but have you ever pulled jungle spice?  Xylene seems to be a bit expensive and I want to make sure I know what to do with it before I buy some.

Alas, I have not. I was planning on pulling off an extraction literally the week in Sept. after they made the MHRB raids. Damn you DEA!

I'll definitely give it a try the next time I need some spice, because I'd really like to give it a try to see the differences. From the trip reports I read, it seemed very cool and more potent by weight. In them I can recall one smoking it at a concert and the elves came to their reality instead of you going to the elves reality. Have any of you had this happen on DMT? I haven't, but I think this is because I can't even keep my eyes open when I take a bigger dose (or they are open and I can't even tell). If you do go through with the extraction, be sure to let us know what you think  :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 31 March 2013, 00:46:39


This made me smile - I have read many of these a while back - the phase of near manic consumption of his works was rather long for me.

I guess I am after more precise area - meditation - how do I get on with it as I seem to struggle with progressing further than "focus on your breathing".

Shows you how old and dogmatic I am - "give me a book that will teach me how to shut my brain" :)
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Hi Everyone! So freaking happy to find this topic FINALLY! On this note I have found Yoga to have helped me with the DMT space because it integrates body mind and spirit and it has helped me to let go and not try to "control" and be an observer. I am currently digesting page 8 and will post some of my DMT diaries tonight. I also can give some reviews of many vendors very soon. Thx everyone for sharing your experiences and knowledge!!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 31 March 2013, 01:04:17
I can recall one smoking it at a concert and the elves came to their reality instead of you going to the elves reality. Have any of you had this happen on DMT?

Yes.  I wrote about it at the top of p. 2.  I think this was the only time.  It was just my death there with me (she was a wood nymph at the time).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 31 March 2013, 05:08:59
I can recall one smoking it at a concert and the elves came to their reality instead of you going to the elves reality. Have any of you had this happen on DMT?

Yes.  I wrote about it at the top of p. 2.  I think this was the only time.  It was just my death there with me (she was a wood nymph at the time).

The actual perceptual experience can vary wildly.  Most of my DMT trips have been totally immersive hallucinatory experiences, but once I took a hit and nothing changed, the room I was in looked exactly the same ... then I turned and my death was standing there right over my shoulder.  She was the only actual hallucination I had that time, but the two of us staring at one another, me trying not to get sucked into her eyes, was one of the more poignant experiences I've had and launched the mind trip I mentioned above.

This is very cool and odd at the same time. When you say "my death" I'm picturing the grim reaper, but I'm guessing this was just a female-looking DMT entity. I've never had any full-blown people visit me in my realm, although just last night after a full-blown, deep trip to the void, I came back and looked at a poster on the wall and the people were completely walking out of it -- like a good 6 inches, but never and further, but were waving around their arms and scratching their heads. It was much more real than anything I've seen on other drugs.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 31 March 2013, 05:45:23
i can say from experience that doing DMT too often or recklessly and without proper preparation and respect, it'll stab your entire being with reality before wrapping you in a cosmic blanket to be confused for the next few hours/days/weeks. i've even read reports of people being "thrown out" of the DMT space by whatever governing entity or subconscious creation they were interacting with. notably Robert Hunter.

seems to work best on it's own or with other tryptamine associated compounds. makes the transition a little easier ime.

This is relates to me quite a bit right now. I think I may be over doing it. I was doing it every weekend, 2-3 times a night. I believe that I have sincerely been "thrown out". I told a story earlier in the thread about being denied access. I told myself I needed a break. Waited only 3 days because I was being stubborn. Tried 3 times in a row. Every time, nothing. Tried the next day, nothing again. Even loading up higher amounts literally had no effect.

I have found that to be true as well. The idea that this is a recreational drug got proven false to me quickly. I am sharing a report here that I posted in an of topic thread because I think it applies and I was wondering too if anyone has had similar experiences with red jungle DMT which contains other alkaloids. Since this trip I have not touched the remaining 150mg of the red Jungle spice. I ponder it, look at it sometimes, but since I have stuck with regular spice.

Dec 17, 2012
40 mg NN DMT from TreeOfLiberty
12 mg Jungle DMT from ELVIS
30 min after a mild dose of Lemon Haze cannabis from Cali4niaLove

I vaporized the mixture in a small "elf Machine" i made from 2 different pipes sold at the BP ( a large chillum connected to a glass bong stem housing stainless steel chore for convection and a smaller piece of chore wrapped in a screen for a heating element placed on top of the DMT for the first melt before vaping to keep the flame off the DMT.

I did a slow draw with the element intact, melting the DMT mix and removing the element I did  3 long slow draws As soon as I was barely able to set the pipe down  at the 3rd and final exhale. I launched into a technicolor world within my own and immediately was surrounded by beings who looked a lot like the "Nutcracker doll" they were signalling with neon green + or a neon red x whenever i turned my head in the direction it wanted to go or did not want to go. I did not want to move and the expressions on the faces of the beings seemed angry. As I turned my head to the hall their expression went from red to green and smiling and flashing yellow arrows pointing me down the hall appeared with big green + signs. I refused to move and close my eyes and my tongue began to swell, cutting off my air as the beings went red again. I rolled my office chair toward the hall and my tongue was replaced by a normal tongue and green arrows appeared to point the way.

This cycle continued with every refusal and acceptance I put forth. I couldn't really walk so I crawled. Fearing for my life I was directed the the living room by the neon arrows. I got to the couch and pleaded in my thoughts to them to let me stay put for my own safety. They saw the baby stroller in the room and "A baby, that's nice" was the telepathic response. A sense of relief came over me but I still was fearful that they may change their minds and refocus on me. The psychic grip on my tongue loosened. I also had a sense that these beings were guardians of a place between worlds and they were as curious to see my world through my eyes as I was to enter theirs. A sense of benevolence mixed with mischief. I was so glad to land back in reality unharmed. This experience gave me a profound sense that I need to be very respectful of this drug and the spirit planes it can allow you to enter.

That was followed by this experience.

met my spirit guide tonite.
35 mg of rogerpete's DMT vaporized perhaps too quickly in the "Machine", fresh glass fresh chore.

as the second hit set in i put the pipe down, slight nausea wave space breaking into fractals. The normal "click you are in did not happen as I drew the last hit too sharply and I think pulled some DMT through. But as I settled back and closed my eyes the same old attention getting scheme from an entity was making my tongue swells if it were saying "not you again, open your eyes so I can see" I spoke in my thoughts "please let just take a journey, there is nothing much more to see in my world that you haven't already seen" The point of exit was ready and harsh and remembered I had set an intention to release my thoughts and meditate. I took a breath and let go of my thoughts and expectations The "click you're in" happened and I was catapulted into some amazing scenes changing to fast to describe. every now and then there would be a baby that would appear and coo when my guide showed me something and I got it. It was a very loving and gentle experience and I am beginning to recognize the way my guide speaks to me through my own body signals. On my way out I realized the presence was my spirit guide and I remember saying thank you over and over for revealing its worlds and it felt like the guide was receptive and would be happy to see me again soon. Very freaking cool.

40 min later another 40mg slowly and correctly vaporized. I feel a wave of nausea followed by fractals embedded in my surroundings, closed eyes and met the entity again and had a similar movement through space, but the guide and others had a god laugh that i had to pee. I felt apologetic. They presented funny click through images of a CGI toilet that seemed to be alive beckoning me to go ahead and find the toilet "get what you need". Opening my eyes I decide to get up slowly, movement is strange and every object i see seems inhabited by a soul, cartoon-like presence. lasting way after the visuals were gone. they seem to say goodbye as I wave at the furniture...

I have really come to believe that setting an intention and learning to observe rather than control and not give in to fear become paramount to a welcoming experience.  If I use it like an addict I will get what I deserve, and get taught a harsh lesson via spiritual beatdown.

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 31 March 2013, 05:55:09
This is very cool and odd at the same time. When you say "my death" I'm picturing the grim reaper, but I'm guessing this was just a female-looking DMT entity. I've never had any full-blown people visit me in my realm, although just last night after a full-blown, deep trip to the void, I came back and looked at a poster on the wall and the people were completely walking out of it -- like a good 6 inches, but never and further, but were waving around their arms and scratching their heads. It was much more real than anything I've seen on other drugs.

The 'grim reaper' is for children.  Death is not like that.  I can mean different things when talking about 'my death' ... but in the context of the DMT experience, she is the main entity with whom I always interact.  I call her my death because that's what she is.  She isn't an 'elf' although she occasionally has that kind of appearance.  She does take different forms, but they are all her, in the same way as the Hindu gods have many different faces.  I realise 'elves' is a McKenna term ... I don't mind using it, but when I see my death I call her what she is.

I would like to describe her to you, but I have written all about her in a poem which I intend to publish in a collection of poetry and short fiction I'm still working on, and this could eventually compromise my anonymity.  Sorry to be withholding, but it seems like a necessary precaution.  :-[  If you would like to know more, pm me (include your key).  The poem is still undergoing revision, but I wouldn't mind sharing it with you (meaning DMTisinME specifically).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 31 March 2013, 06:07:38
My vendor reviews

Elvis was quick, no problems. I embarrassingly must admit I wasted his regular DMT vaporizing in a metal vapor genie as a nub and for whatever reason I think the heat distribution of metal just did weird things. The light doses I got were more in the 2D sharp patterned CEV's butI enjoyed it immensely. As in my previous trip report I am waiting to decide whether I want to do the red spice again. Still researching the other alkaloids like yaremamine and trying hard to find others to share on it.

Tree of Liberty isn't really mentioned in this topic thread as a vendor but as far as MHRB he really cares about what he puts out and it shows. Fluffy eggshell goodness. Strong as fuck. Unfortunately he is not around much.

I have only tried Shy Guy's yellow which is good in that price range. Curious about the eggshell, when I get a chance I will mos def try it. Stealth was off the chain, way off (bravo!). On the ball and responsive vendor.

Cannot go wrong with RogerPete. No BS ever. Clean and potent, stealth. Nice guy too. I saved and stocked up on his. Worth it.

Moon Unit's product is special. Full spectrum great price. Very organic smell and taste and a has taken me to some places like experiencing my own death which was very profound.

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 31 March 2013, 12:48:23
My vendor reviews

I have only tried Shy Guy's yellow which is good in that price range. Curious about the eggshell, when I get a chance I will mos def try it. Stealth was off the chain, way off (bravo!). On the ball and responsive vendor.


thanks for the review! eggshell and yellow should be going back up soon. good to hear about rogerpete's as well. heck, i might even try some ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 31 March 2013, 20:58:56
This is very cool and odd at the same time. When you say "my death" I'm picturing the grim reaper, but I'm guessing this was just a female-looking DMT entity. I've never had any full-blown people visit me in my realm, although just last night after a full-blown, deep trip to the void, I came back and looked at a poster on the wall and the people were completely walking out of it -- like a good 6 inches, but never and further, but were waving around their arms and scratching their heads. It was much more real than anything I've seen on other drugs.

The 'grim reaper' is for children.  Death is not like that.  I can mean different things when talking about 'my death' ... but in the context of the DMT experience, she is the main entity with whom I always interact.  I call her my death because that's what she is.  She isn't an 'elf' although she occasionally has that kind of appearance.  She does take different forms, but they are all her, in the same way as the Hindu gods have many different faces.  I realise 'elves' is a McKenna term ... I don't mind using it, but when I see my death I call her what she is.

I would like to describe her to you, but I have written all about her in a poem which I intend to publish in a collection of poetry and short fiction I'm still working on, and this could eventually compromise my anonymity.  Sorry to be withholding, but it seems like a necessary precaution.  :-[  If you would like to know more, pm me (include your key).  The poem is still undergoing revision, but I wouldn't mind sharing it with you (meaning DMTisinME specifically).

Yes, the "grim reaper" is nothing but a fable, but, you know what else can you attribute death to in a physical form unless you have been greeted by her as you have. I think I know what you mean, I met a goddess of sorts a few trips ago in which for about a minute all she did was get right up in my face and stare at me, blocking almost all my vision, looking into my soul. It felt as if she were going to tell me something, but in retrospect I believe that she judged me and concluded that I was not ready to know what she knew. I can actually remember thinking "get out of my face! I want to know what you're blocking."

I'd love to read your work, and you have made my realize that what is shown with DMT could be the greatest subject for poetry. PM coming your way.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Dr Special K on 31 March 2013, 21:04:27
All the deemsters seems really taxed on the road. I remember when MoonUnit was selling 10grams for about $550.

now all i see is deemsters thats 150+ a gram. its nucking futs
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 01 April 2013, 01:24:24
All the deemsters seems really taxed on the road. I remember when MoonUnit was selling 10grams for about $550.

now all i see is deemsters thats 150+ a gram. its nucking futs

I don't know if you're aware or not, but MHRB is in short supply. At least compared to when moon unit was selling for the $$ you listed.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 01 April 2013, 11:28:26
I've just finished a series of 4 trips (3 last night, 1 tonight).  I had what I call the 'dead end' trip tonight.  This is the end of the cycle.  I won't be smoking more DMT for a few weeks at least.  The 'dead end' trip isn't a bad one, but it just shows me that I can't go any farther at the moment.  This is good because I feel very happy with the person who came out of this trip. -_o

I'm still tripping slightly.  I've noticed that my trips have been lasting longer lately.  About 7 or 8 years ago, I found out that I could vastly extend the duration of a salvia trip through meditation, but the same thing never seemed to work with DMT ... until recently.  My trips yesterday were extended by harmala extract, but tonight was just me. 

Yesterday, I took 161mg of extract and loaded up 52mg of DMT.  I had loaded far too much salvia for my previous trip, and so I simply put the DMT on top of it.  The first trip was very light as I was only able to vape left-over crystal from the glass (the DMT on top of the salvia melted but didn't vape right away).  Nevertheless, I had some interesting visuals and enough of a mind trip to convince me I'd been stupid intending to take the whole 50mg at once.  I got three strong trips from this load so far and there's probably one moderate dose left.

Tonight's trip was interesting.  The 'breakthrough' portion was a trip I've had 3 or 4 times before, but as I was coming down, I began to compare the experience with the old trips I used to have.  People on the Avengers thread sometimes talk about the 'old acid' and I've been around these drugs long enough to know what they're talking about.  My theory had been that acid used to feel different because of impurities.  While I'm sure this has some validity, I don't think such a superficial explanation really accounts for what I and others have noticed.  My last couple of trips have had me thinking along similar lines about the 'old' DMT as opposed to the new, and I came to realise the obvious: things change.

In the first place, what I mean is that the pool of energy out of which I must forge a new self when coming out of a DMT trip is different now than it used to be because there are a lot of younger people doing this stuff now ... and well, the younger generation has a different flavour of energy to it than mine did.  This is something I've noticed before: the way time changes people isn't just random and it isn't just cultural 'progress'.  Our energy is changing character at all times, and THIS is why drugs change---the people are changing at a fundamental level and the spirits of the drugs are themselves also changing with time, and so OF COURSE the drug experience will evolve.

I also found that psychedelics had taken on a rather 'animal' feel.  Specifically:

Shrooms are porcine.  This really isn't new, but they do make you realise that human beings are stupid, ugly pig-monkeys.

LSD is bovine.  This is the 'new' acid.  The feeling can be oppressive, as though we are cattle in a slaughterhouse.  I've even felt as though I had a cattle gun to the back of my head on different occasions.  The 'old' LSD is a little harder to put a finger on, but maybe more avian than bovine.

DMT is equine.  This is also new.  It lacks the captive feeling of the acid cows.  DMT lately makes me feel like a wild stallion.  The 'old' DMT was much more spindly and perhaps arachnoid.

I can't really pin down a similar analogy for salvia, but that seems to have changed a bit too.  These observations won't mean much to the younger lot, but they're sort of the residue of a deeper lesson I learned tonight.  Auspicious travels, all.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bandeto962 on 01 April 2013, 14:23:54
Made an order with rogerpete, this will be my first time with DMT and all these stories have me really excited.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: greenturtle on 01 April 2013, 15:43:07
So the other night towards the end of an LSD trip I was listening/watching Phish's 1st set NYE 2012 in Madison Square Garden and I decided to try some more DMT.

This time instead of in a cigarette I sandwiched some in between some tobacco in a pipe, i know it still is not the preferred method, but I had a great experience. I still did not blast off, but it felt great and was visually stunning.

I tried to keep the lighter off of the tobacco as much as possible and just heat it up in order to vaporize.

After 2 good hits I sat down on the couch. The lights were off and it seemed as though the band was cartoon characters and where in 3d, the light show at the concert seemed to bleed out from the sides of the TV and spread across the whole room. It also looked as though the lights where coming out towards me, almost hanging over my head, it felt really good.

I used a knife blade to pull the DMT from a bag and put it in the pipe, so I am not sure how much I used, I am sure much of it was wasted doing it this way.

I have about 3/4's of my .5g bag left and I have decided not to do anymore until I have a decent pipe/machine to use it with. In the meantime I will educate myself more and more about this beautiful substance.

BTW, this is Rogerpete's DMT.
GT
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 01 April 2013, 21:35:22

This made me smile - I have read many of these a while back - the phase of near manic consumption of his works was rather long for me.

I guess I am after more precise area - meditation - how do I get on with it as I seem to struggle with progressing further than "focus on your breathing".

Shows you how old and dogmatic I am - "give me a book that will teach me how to shut my brain" :)

Hi Everyone! So freaking happy to find this topic FINALLY! On this note I have found Yoga to have helped me with the DMT space because it integrates body mind and spirit and it has helped me to let go and not try to "control" and be an observer. I am currently digesting page 8 and will post some of my DMT diaries tonight. I also can give some reviews of many vendors very soon. Thx everyone for sharing your experiences and knowledge!!

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Hello, prince, it would be great to read some of your diaries.
It is interesting to hear of your yoga experience ... Is there any specific style that you think helps?
Is it pranayama that you find most useful ... or?
I am doing some yoga for some time and while I find its effects overall very positive i might not have reached that level of proficiency and concentration that allows one to truly focus on task at hand - my mind does wonder all the time and it takes a lot of effort not to lose track of what I am doing ... this experience is similar to my DMT trip, where I normally lose my focus and can not bring back much of the experience.

@GGA, thanks a lot for sharing your trip - wicked is the right word for what I feel about it.
Especially your bovine and equine analogies - certainly made me think about my personal experiences.
Just coming out of an acid trip I am not sure bovine comparison rings true, but I need to think about it a bit more before going any further.
+1 for such a familiarity with your death ... from memory you do play russian roulette with it in a bath too :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 02 April 2013, 06:07:52
Just coming out of an acid trip I am not sure bovine comparison rings true, but I need to think about it a bit more before going any further.

I don't mean to say these associations are universally meaningful.  I'm sure you experience LSD differently than I do.  This was just the way I was led to capture something I'd noticed.  Actually, I'd already had those thoughts about LSD and shrooms, the revelation to me was the 'horsiness' of DMT. -_o

EDIT:
+1 for such a familiarity with your death ... from memory you do play russian roulette with it in a bath too :)

Now that you've reminded me about that dream, I've been thinking about it. I've had several recurring dreams in my life, and the funny thing is: all the ones I can think of had to do with me dying*.  I never believed the old wives' tale that if you die in a dream you die ... because I've been dying in my dreams since I was 10 years old.  For whatever reason, those dreams seem to be the only ones which keep coming back.

*Of course, now that I say that, I've thought of a counterexample.  There was a dream I had a few times when I was 5 or 6 which involved a skeleton in a suit and top hat with a dead rose.  That thing scared the hell out of me, but it didn't actually kill me.

On an unrelated note, pimpit is back in stock.  While the price is a bit high, the quality of his DMT is superb ... and when I ordered from him (~1.5 months ago), what I received was considerably overweight.  It wasn't possible for me to check the weight until I'd purchased a milligram scale (and already used perhaps 250mg).  Accounting for what had been used, I estimate that I must have started with about a gram (and I'd only ordered .5g), making the effective price much lower than most if not all other DMT vendors.  I am not promising you'll have the same experience (it could even have been a mistake) ... but I do feel I owe this vendor a little free advertising for having treated me so well. -_o
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Joey Terrifying on 02 April 2013, 21:10:46


I also found that psychedelics had taken on a rather 'animal' feel.  Specifically:

Shrooms are porcine.  This really isn't new, but they do make you realise that human beings are stupid, ugly pig-monkeys.

LSD is bovine.  This is the 'new' acid.  The feeling can be oppressive, as though we are cattle in a slaughterhouse.  I've even felt as though I had a cattle gun to the back of my head on different occasions.  The 'old' LSD is a little harder to put a finger on, but maybe more avian than bovine.

DMT is equine.  This is also new.  It lacks the captive feeling of the acid cows.  DMT lately makes me feel like a wild stallion.  The 'old' DMT was much more spindly and perhaps arachnoid.


i totally get what you're saying.  nice articulation.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 03 April 2013, 08:45:22
I just recalled that there was a thread already where we were discussing making of the machine. I thought it might be good to have a link here for all of those interested: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=116969.msg825042#msg825042
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 03 April 2013, 11:42:30
just put up half grams of some very limited off-white colored DMT that has been triple refined.

edit: yellow will be available in a few days! grams will be around 120



pleasant travels everyone ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 06 April 2013, 12:55:51
Hope this thread is not going the way of dodo :)

I just stumbled across this listing by multi exciter of 1g of DMT for 0.90 BTC ... Very attractive intro price, but vendor is evidently VERY new - no policy or even GPG key.

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/e3739ab6ff

Does anyone have any information on this vendor?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: RainbowSlipandSlide on 06 April 2013, 14:19:14
Bump
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 06 April 2013, 15:38:00
Hope this thread is not going the way of dodo :)

I just stumbled across this listing by multi exciter of 1g of DMT for 0.90 BTC ... Very attractive intro price, but vendor is evidently VERY new - no policy or even GPG key.

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/e3739ab6ff

Does anyone have any information on this vendor?

In just few short hours vendor has gotten their profile updated - very good comms!
I have suggested for him to add listings with smaller weight to make it easier for buyers to decide to take a gamble on him. He is also appears to be a trained chemist - someone like that is always good to have handy here :-)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Flyhigh on 06 April 2013, 16:19:49
For all you DMT heads..read the section on DMT here.>>>>dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=142440.0
enjoy  :D
peace
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 06 April 2013, 22:30:23
yellow is back ;D i'd recommend trying some on the tail end of some high quality lsd

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/f1745898f0
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 06 April 2013, 23:35:00
For all you DMT heads..read the section on DMT here.>>>>dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=142440.0
enjoy  :D
peace

very enjoayble re-read: +1!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bandeto962 on 07 April 2013, 02:46:39
Well I just tried it and it was really..peculiar. Eyeballed the amount, so don't know the exact dosage, but I only got 1 really good hit. I definitely didn't 'break through' or anything. Just some very mild, but awesome visuals. I also had some very interesting aural hallucinations. First there was the weird paper crumbling/rushing sound, but then for the rest of the trip I just kept hearing the most beautiful music. I had this feeling that there was something waiting for me to 'crossover'. Going to give it another go later tonight, I want to see what was waiting on the other side.

I don't have anything to compare it too, but as far as I can tell rogerpete's DMT is the bomb.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 07 April 2013, 03:25:14
Well I just tried it and it was really..peculiar. Eyeballed the amount, so don't know the exact dosage, but I only got 1 really good hit. I definitely didn't 'break through' or anything. Just some very mild, but awesome visuals. I also had some very interesting aural hallucinations. First there was the weird paper crumbling/rushing sound, but then for the rest of the trip I just kept hearing the most beautiful music. I had this feeling that there was something waiting for me to 'crossover'. Going to give it another go later tonight, I want to see what was waiting on the other side.

I don't have anything to compare it too, but as far as I can tell rogerpete's DMT is the bomb.

No matter what they tell you DMT does not built tolerance.
Go for it whenever you feel like.
On tolerance I rely on Strassman's conclusions - after all he is a doctor :-)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: maxieBB on 07 April 2013, 03:34:05
Dammit Jim! I'm not a doctor!..........need a script for TOAD VENOM.........smoke 'em if ya got 'em :o

Ribet........ ::)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: kundalini on 07 April 2013, 06:37:00
Just tried RogerPete's DMT about 20 minutes ago. It's my first time ever trying DMT and it felt a lot like my first time trying salvia divinorum. I didn't break through but it might have been because I was so damn nervous... it took me about 3 or 4 attempts to break through with salvia, and when it finally happened, it happened big time. Breaking through with salvia is one of the greatest experiences I've ever had. It felt as if I was sucked into another dimension by changing my vibrational frequency starting from my toes and top of my head, and ending simultaneously in the middle of my back. Once there, there was a glowing, beautiful light that felt like pure joyous love. The light felt so good like it was healing my spirit and body from scars that Ive carried with me since childhood. There where 3 beings there watching me but i couldnt make them out. After maybe 4 minutes, I felt myself coming back to this dimension in the same slow way as I went in. It was incredible.

Hearing and reading so much about dmt made me feel like it would do so much more than what it just did. I smoked about 50mg in a GVG and there wasn't much that I felt. I did feel the same way as the first time I tried salvia, so Im not too worried. Now that the first step has been taken, maybe I will break through on my next or 3rd attempt just like with salvia. :) I do feel really calm and at peace tho. Like a nice positive meditative state of mind. It's tough not to feel slightly disappointed but I have plenty of DMT left so I'm confident that a break through will happen :) 

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 07 April 2013, 07:02:43
Hello, prince, it would be great to read some of your diaries.
It is interesting to hear of your yoga experience ... Is there any specific style that you think helps?
Is it pranayama that you find most useful ... or?
I am doing some yoga for some time and while I find its effects overall very positive i might not have reached that level of proficiency and concentration that allows one to truly focus on task at hand - my mind does wonder all the time and it takes a lot of effort not to lose track of what I am doing ... this experience is similar to my DMT trip, where I normally lose my focus and can not bring back much of the experience.


The yoga I have been doing is Vinyasa and Ashtanga. Not as often as i would like but I apply what I know to a lot of situations off the mat. One of my teachers often holds us in poses for great lengths of time and my body will scream "Your killing me!" which is basically a fear and discomfort response. The key to getting to the other side is focusing on the breath, letting go and not giving up on myself. I translate the attitude to DMT in that I am shown the most when I don't try to record or analyze everything and returning to my breath when I become the thinker instead of the observer. I can't always get there. Last week I got caught in a dead end loop on a trip. I forgot I had done DMT and this one thought kept reverberating that made no sense. It was like limbo. I was happy to come to. It may have been a slightly dirty hit since I was smoking the goo left of the back of the chore of my Machine. As far as retaining the memory goes it can be hard like waking from an intense dream. Keeping a diary after helps when i get to go back and read. One the Nexus someone suggested a voice recorder.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: mantidman on 07 April 2013, 07:36:50

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No matter what they tell you DMT does not built tolerance.
Go for it whenever you feel like.
On tolerance I rely on Strassman's conclusions - after all he is a doctor :-)
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Magnito or any of the Deemsters.... can recent use of DMT effect the outcome of a planned LSD or other psychedelic's?

In other words should I worry if I have been using DMT and want to try JOR's liquid when it arrives?  I want to be close to baseline to try TOC but I am being constantly pulled back to try and find some answers to what I have experienced with Blims DMT....

stiffneck
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: atlas on 07 April 2013, 13:28:34
Great work guys
Subbing
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: PinkFloyd86 on 07 April 2013, 14:03:33
Hello guys,

this is my first time even looking into this thread I must admit but I'm loving the vibe I feel in this room.  I have always been curious about dmt since i was younger and considered ordering toad extract online but never did because I was young but decided the risk was not worth it  ;D And now I am here in SR where I can buy with ease.  I have experience with Mushrooms, LSD, and pot for quite some time and have dabbled with other chems here and there but after reading some reports on shroomery about when you cross over to the other side there are these demons beckoning for you to come closer and they are cannibalistic aliens who apparently drill a microchip into your brain and when you come out of your trip you are under the impression that it actually happened.  I want try dmt but I dont feel its necessary to put myself in that kind of scenario. My curiosity however is tingled and I was hoping this place would be the best place to ask.  Any input would be great.  Love and Drugs.

Pink Floyd - Run Like Hell  8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bandeto962 on 07 April 2013, 14:43:33
I'm not the best person to ask, because I've yet to fully breakthrough "going to try tonight". But judging from my two smaller dose trips last night DMT is a very beautiful substance. It was intense, no doubt. But it was never scary. It felt like I was supposed to crossover, whatever was on the other side wanted me to come through. It was strangely comforting. I feel like there where many amazing things waiting, I just wasn't yet ready.

The visual are beautiful beyond words, and the auditory hallucinations are amazing as well. You sound very experienced, I'm sure you'd be able to handle it so long as all the typical precautions are taken.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: kundalini on 07 April 2013, 15:50:11

@kundalini, do not despair!
Sometimes you are ahead
Sometimes you are behind
The race is long
And in the end it is only with yourself
 (c) Buzz Luhrmann, Wear Sunscreen

I can relate to that. It took me quite a while to get there too. For me it was relaxation and getting the machine that helped the breakthru. Few other things - I always now do it lying down, in pretty much darkness (well, I have a couple of candles sitting in my line of vision), no music, before taking it in I do deep calming breathing and meditate.

I am sire it will be very similar to your salvia experience - you will wonder how on earth you were not able to breakthru on one toke :)

Best of luck and don't let machine elves bite!

I tried the same thing. The room was dark, there was no sound and I took 3 tokes sitting on my bed and I laid down as I exhaled from the last toke. Meditating only made my heart beat faster before I smoked it haha. One thing that caught my eye was that the dmt melted through the screen of the GVG and maybe this didn't allow me to get a nice solid toke. If I put a thin layer of weed in the chamber first and then sprinkle the dmt on top so when it melts it will continue to vaporize instead of falling through the screen into the pipe. I will try again tonight :)

Maybe I will build the machine and see how that does compared to the GVG.   
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Joey Terrifying on 07 April 2013, 16:17:40



Magnito or any of the Deemsters.... can recent use of DMT effect the outcome of a planned LSD or other psychedelic's?

In other words should I worry if I have been using DMT and want to try JOR's liquid when it arrives?  I want to be close to baseline to try TOC but I am being constantly pulled back to try and find some answers to what I have experienced with Blims DMT....

stiffneck

in my experience, DMT greatly enhances subsequent psychedelic experiences.  Like, if you have a breakthrough DMT experience and then take acid a week later, its gonna be one hell of an acid trip because your mind is already so open from the DMT.

just one man's experience, though.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: kundalini on 07 April 2013, 18:54:24
I felt like sharing this.

Last night I tried DMT for the first time. It wasn't a break through experience but I still had a most satisfying and deep sleep that I haven't had for a long time. And on top of that, I've been doing some house chores, cutting the grass, and I feel so good! Not xtc good... more like I'm at peace with myself and a deep sense of ..... hard to put it into a word..... gratitude/joy? :)

Just wanted to express my deep thanks to SR for giving me (and all of us) the opportunity to get such an incredible molecule. And thanks to the knowledgeable deemsters in this forum for helping a first timer out. And last but not least, thanks to RogerPete for such a wonderfully synthesized DMT. I am now a deemster for life :) 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 07 April 2013, 23:21:14
some reports on shroomery about when you cross over to the other side there are these demons beckoning for you to come closer and they are cannibalistic aliens who apparently drill a microchip into your brain and when you come out of your trip you are under the impression that it actually happened.

This does not sound like a DMT trip to me.  It's definitely true that the experience can be unpleasant and even frightening, but this sounds very weird and sort of trivial.  My experiences with DMT show me the truth underlying existence, and while I've had a wide range of actual perceptual experiences, none of them have been as arbitrary or as apparently devoid of meaning as this.  There are many trip reports buried in the older pages of this thread which will give you a better notion of what a DMT trip is like.




Magnito or any of the Deemsters.... can recent use of DMT effect the outcome of a planned LSD or other psychedelic's?

In other words should I worry if I have been using DMT and want to try JOR's liquid when it arrives?  I want to be close to baseline to try TOC but I am being constantly pulled back to try and find some answers to what I have experienced with Blims DMT....

stiffneck

in my experience, DMT greatly enhances subsequent psychedelic experiences.  Like, if you have a breakthrough DMT experience and then take acid a week later, its gonna be one hell of an acid trip because your mind is already so open from the DMT.

just one man's experience, though.

This.  For me, it actually happened the other way round.  I had my first true ego death on a megadose of LSD shortly before I started smoking DMT.  This opened up my eye-holes wide enough that I 'broke through' immediately when I first tried DMT and have had ever-increasing psychedelic experiences since.  The farther you go, the easier it is to get back there the next time ... and then go even farther.  This is what I've found in general with psychedelic drugs, especially DMT.

In regards to tolerance: DMT will not create tolerance for LSD (or shrooms, or really anything else as far as I'm aware).  I differ a bit with icogmagnito on the point of DMT-to-DMT tolerance.  I have noticed a tolerance period of 30 mins to an hour after a DMT trip (very short-term tolerance).  If you smoke it again within this time frame, you will certainly feel effects, but will likely have a diminished experience.  I'd advise waiting at least an hour between trips.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: White 0ut on 07 April 2013, 23:47:58
Hey guys just got some of both RogerPete & elvis's DMT today. I have a volcano but won't have it for about a week. I did some dabs on my rig that were double dipped in DMT. I figured since they are both technically vaporizing that it would work. Anyone have any ideas for me? Really trying to breakthrough.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: kundalini on 08 April 2013, 00:09:48
After looking at my GVG today, I see most of the DMT I smoked yesterday melted and fell through the screen before it vaporized. It has crystallized in the area underneath the chamber and there is prolly about 40-50 mg worth. Is there any way that I can save it?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: PinkFloyd86 on 08 April 2013, 01:05:46
Thank you for the help.  Much love to all. 

Pink
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 08 April 2013, 01:26:47
@ White Out

Brosif...It may work, but if you have a volcano...just wait....it literally changed the game for DMT... 0 percent wasted.  I used RogerPete's product, and when i checked the chamber...there was NOTHING.  INSTANT vapor...i promise you it is the best and only way I vaporize DMT.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: redfunguy on 08 April 2013, 01:45:27
Can someone PM me or post a link to an online store that sells The Machine?  Also, I see there are a few Vapor Genies.  Which one do you all use?  My buddy wants to try DMT again, and he didn't break through last time, he smoked it out of a lightbulb.  Said he came close to breaking through, but didn't.  Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: kundalini on 08 April 2013, 02:31:15
Can someone PM me or post a link to an online store that sells The Machine?  Also, I see there are a few Vapor Genies.  Which one do you all use?  My buddy wants to try DMT again, and he didn't break through last time, he smoked it out of a lightbulb.  Said he came close to breaking through, but didn't.  Thanks for the help.

The top three methods of smoking DMT seem to be using the Volcano vaporizer, the Machine (you have to build it), or a Glass Sherlock VaporGenie. The most expensive is the Volcano (a few hundred). The GVG you can buy for $109 from their site. And the machine is the least expensive by far cause you build it from cheap yet effective materials. 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: redfunguy on 08 April 2013, 02:53:20
Can someone PM me or post a link to an online store that sells The Machine?  Also, I see there are a few Vapor Genies.  Which one do you all use?  My buddy wants to try DMT again, and he didn't break through last time, he smoked it out of a lightbulb.  Said he came close to breaking through, but didn't.  Thanks for the help.

The top three methods of smoking DMT seem to be using the Volcano vaporizer, the Machine (you have to build it), or a Glass Sherlock VaporGenie. The most expensive is the Volcano (a few hundred). The GVG you can buy for $109 from their site. And the machine is the least expensive by far cause you build it from cheap yet effective materials.

GREAT INFO!  Thanks , +1 to you.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bandeto962 on 08 April 2013, 03:24:28
Going to try to breakthrough again tonight. Feeling a little nervous about it, even though I thoroughly enjoyed my 2 low dose trips last night.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: kundalini on 08 April 2013, 04:49:33
Just finished smoking some DMT about 15 minutes ago. This time it was from AddyQueenHashKing.

It so felt like a breakthrough, but there where times when I could still think in the background. For example, when the intense visuals of sacred geometry and pyramids started happening, I could hear myself thinking "this is amazing". But then I would completely disappear (strange description but thats how it felt) for a moment and then come back. I have this strong feeling now of letting go. Like, I need to let go of myself. Let go of my thoughts and my worries. It was certainly amazing.

I will retry RogerPete's DMT tomorrow night using a correct method, unlike last night. This was only my second time smoking DMT so it might not mean much, but AddyQueenHashKing has some good DMT. :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: shrektastic on 08 April 2013, 05:27:10
I second the volcano method of intake....the best 550.00 I ever spent,I don't cough from my cannabis anymore and DMT is fucking AMAZING with it.I set mine right at 8-8.5 and when it fills the bag...One lungfull.....hold.
2 lungfulls.......HOLD. 3rd one I melt away into warmth,buzzing and everything goes bye bye before I can even exhale the hit.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: White 0ut on 08 April 2013, 06:18:19
@ White Out

Brosif...It may work, but if you have a volcano...just wait....it literally changed the game for DMT... 0 percent wasted.  I used RogerPete's product, and when i checked the chamber...there was NOTHING.  INSTANT vapor...i promise you it is the best and only way I vaporize DMT.

Thanks buddy... How many MG's did you throw in your volcano for a breakthough. I am going to have someone loading bowls and basically forcing it to my mouth lmao... I plan on going very hard this go around.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DoomBrew on 08 April 2013, 06:23:54
After looking at my GVG today, I see most of the DMT I smoked yesterday melted and fell through the screen before it vaporized. It has crystallized in the area underneath the chamber and there is prolly about 40-50 mg worth. Is there any way that I can save it?

Try dissolving with a little EtOH or IPA, then recrystallize. 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Joey Terrifying on 08 April 2013, 15:19:17
After looking at my GVG today, I see most of the DMT I smoked yesterday melted and fell through the screen before it vaporized. It has crystallized in the area underneath the chamber and there is prolly about 40-50 mg worth. Is there any way that I can save it?

if you just pull long and slow, the hot air will vaporize the stuff in the underneath chamber.  i always try to pull lightly, cuz it only takes one hard pull to suck all the melted DMT off the screens and down into that chamber.  my wife does this every time no matter how many times i tell her to "pull lightly"
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: kundalini on 08 April 2013, 16:04:24
@incogmagnito... I put a nice layer of high quality weed in my GVG and then I put the DMT on top of that. This prevented it from melting through the screen and I got some massive hits. It hit me very nicely using this method. :)

I was kind of skeptical about ordering from VaporGenie also, but honestly it's a "tobbacco pipe", so I ordered it and it got to me 2 days later :) Of course, overseas is always more of a hassle.

@DoomBrew... thanks for the tip! I will try using some IPA.

@Joey Terrifying ... In my second attempt at using my GVG to smoke DMT, I put a nice layer (not thick) of weed in the chamber first. I made sure that there werent any gaps in the layer where the DMT could fall or melt through. Then I added the DMT on top in hopes that it would work and..... it worked like a charm. :)  I had 2 awesome experiences back to back for a total of 6 hits and there is still melted DMT left on the weed. I used about 50mg.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 08 April 2013, 17:28:56
Thanks buddy... How many MG's did you throw in your volcano for a breakthough. I am going to have someone loading bowls and basically forcing it to my mouth lmao... I plan on going very hard this go around.

@White Out, your drive is admirable, but please start slow ... I had a couple of trips where when I got out I was wondering if my hair turned white so horrifying the feeling was. thankfully, this was not my first experience. If you do go too hard you might get a lot more than you bargained for. GGA here breaks thru reliably on 20mg, I have to say that I also go for 20 to 30 mg most of the time as I like to go deep, but not to butt-kicking depth. I say try to pace yourself as you might enjoy your journey a lot more than the destination. Pretty much like life it is.

I actually routinely break through on 15mg and sometimes less.  Others on this thread like to use 30--50mg or more, but I second incogmagnito ... you shouldn't try to use more than 30mg on your first try.  I personally smoke an oil pipe and never take more than one hit, which imposes a natural limitation on how much I can use at a time.  On the other hand, my highest dosed trip was probably about 40--50mg ... and this was one of my least visually spectacular DMT trips (it was much longer than usual and came with an intense body high, but that did not make up for the degraded visuals).  There really is such a thing as too much.

Also: +1 to incogmagnito for being so damn helpful around here.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 08 April 2013, 21:58:43
Thanks buddy... How many MG's did you throw in your volcano for a breakthough. I am going to have someone loading bowls and basically forcing it to my mouth lmao... I plan on going very hard this go around.

@White Out, your drive is admirable, but please start slow ... I had a couple of trips where when I got out I was wondering if my hair turned white so horrifying the feeling was. thankfully, this was not my first experience. If you do go too hard you might get a lot more than you bargained for. GGA here breaks thru reliably on 20mg, I have to say that I also go for 20 to 30 mg most of the time as I like to go deep, but not to butt-kicking depth. I say try to pace yourself as you might enjoy your journey a lot more than the destination. Pretty much like life it is.

I actually routinely break through on 15mg and sometimes less.  Others on this thread like to use 30--50mg or more, but I second incogmagnito ... you shouldn't try to use more than 30mg on your first try.  I personally smoke an oil pipe and never take more than one hit, which imposes a natural limitation on how much I can use at a time.  On the other hand, my highest dosed trip was probably about 40--50mg ... and this was one of my least visually spectacular DMT trips (it was much longer than usual and came with an intense body high, but that did not make up for the degraded visuals).  There really is such a thing as too much.

Also: +1 to incogmagnito for being so damn helpful around here.

@GGA, thank you ... for creating this thread ... and for spawning the universe. I saw Hitchhiker's Guide recently - great movie and nice name you have picked :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 08 April 2013, 22:55:23
@GGA, thank you ... for creating this thread ... and for spawning the universe. I saw Hitchhiker's Guide recently - great movie and nice name you have picked :)

LOL.  I know you read my pharma trip report, so you know where my title comes from ... but I'll explain it for the others, because it was really quite serendipitous.  I tripped on pharmahuasca, LSD, and salvia and accidentally spawned the universe ... the text in my title is an excerpt from a chat I had with a friend while tripping on that occasion.  Of course, I'd already made my forum account and chosen the name GGA because I'm a huge Douglas Adams fan.  My choice of forum name was prescient---actually less prescience than synchronicity---but it was prophetic in that I actually ended up constructing the universe from scratch. -_o
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 10 April 2013, 01:53:15
Hey GGA, i can definiely vouch for RogerPete, i have also purchased from MoonUnit.

RogerPete's is my new favorite vendor.  He may be charging more than the rest but his product is absolutely beautiful.

I compare it to my old favorite vendor KidCasio.  KC takes the cake of best DMT in my life...but thats because he gave me a pure clear crystal of DMT.  It literally crushed up as PURE white.

That shit had me visiting my maker every time.


@ WhiteOut

I always go with .05, but i eyeball it now, so if i think the person can hang i throw a little bit extra in there.  But Terrance McKenna said it the best: "If you do to little you will be able to struggle in you mind, but if you to too much, you will have no choice but to surrender"  =)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Flyhigh on 10 April 2013, 01:58:03
  But Terrance McKenna said it the best: "If you do to little you will be able to struggle in you mind, but if you to too much, you will have no choice but to surrender"  =)


HA....that's the truth!  ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: greenturtle on 10 April 2013, 02:10:09
Brothers,

I want to blast off so bad! I tried making a machine using a small Jack Daniels bottle turned upside down with "chore boy" in the neck and a hole drilled in the top (bottom depending on how you look at it) I pulled the chore out and put the DMT on top and put it back in and tried to heat it and get a rip but it did not work.

Anyways, I am afraid I do not have the means to use this wonderful substance the correct way. I cannot invest in volcanos or a GGV, those are not things that I can have in my home due to my occupation.

I will be attending multiple festivals this summer and will take 1/2g(almost) that I have with me and ask around if anybody has a means to use it. Of course I will share, lol. I believe that the setting will be better for me anyways, I love being in the woods camping, absolutely the most comfortable place for me to use psychedelics, period.

I will hopefully wait for the day time before the music and all the raging starts, I cant wait.

Love and Light,

GT 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 10 April 2013, 02:47:29
i've witnessed many a head, including myself, blast off simply layering DMT between 2 beds of ashes and holding the lighter a little further away than you might with a bowl of weed.

anyway, i'd recommend working up to really heavy doses. 15-30mg is enough for most people to have quite a ride. i dabbled in this range of dose for a while before i loaded up 70mg and that one kept me away for almost 2 years before i started experimenting with lower doses again.

these compounds deserve the utmost respect in their use, ime.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 10 April 2013, 03:37:58
Hey GGA, i can definiely vouch for RogerPete, i have also purchased from MoonUnit.

I have been neglecting updating the OP for a few days.  I'll get right on it.

EDIT: I think I'm caught up now.  Let me know if I missed something.

I will be attending multiple festivals this summer and will take 1/2g(almost) that I have with me and ask around if anybody has a means to use it. Of course I will share, lol. I believe that the setting will be better for me anyways, I love being in the woods camping, absolutely the most comfortable place for me to use psychedelics, period.

DMT gives powerful visuals, but you'll find that daylight is very hard to compete with.  If you really want to break through, I would suggest finding a place away from the commotion at night or in the evening to smoke it.  Smoking it in daylight can be an interesting trip too, but I don't think you're likely to experience the full effects this way.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: White 0ut on 10 April 2013, 15:05:26
Thanks for all the helpful advice guys! I am so ready to get to my volcano it's not even funny!

I will try smaller amounts like recommended above.

Thanks incognomito & GGA!

Going to try some of RP's & elvis's Deamster & I'll report back soon!

God you all are awesome people in the universe!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 10 April 2013, 19:54:30
@ greenturtle, Hey brosif!!! like Shy Guyy said, you can DEFINITELY blast off and break through with a simple glass pipe.  Just do the layer method...


1) Sprinkle a bit of herb at the bottom not much, but enough to make a flat bed of grass at the bottom.

2) Next sprinkle 50mg/00.05g into the bowl...making it spread out over the herb. (use 50mg cuz there is some loss with this method)

3) Next pack a good amount of HERD ON TOP of the DMT.  This will create a buffer zone as to not let the fire burn the DMT.

4) Prior to all this make sure the bowl breathes nice, and you can take good clear hits.

5) As you smoke it, try and slow burn it, but cherry it to keep you from using the lighter again.

6) Slow steady big rips...don't kill yer self on the weed...its just there to protect the DMT from getting to hot.

7) As you smoke it you should know when you get to the DMT...it tastes....well different =P

8) At this point...you gotta man up...start to take slow, long deep rips...hold it for like 3-5 seconds...

9) I always go for at least 3 good rips...then my world is vibrating and the white noise is creeping in on me so much i just put the bowl down and close my eyes.

10) If you complete that i guarantee you are going to blast off just fine.

I'd also like to point out that a breakthrough is mostly dependent on your mind and acceptance to the drug. 

I feel DMT is EXTREMELY spiritual, but none the less it is determined by your set, setting, mood, atmosphere, diet, self-esteem, stress levels, and many other factors.  Like GGA said it is very POWERFUL stuff and should be used with respect.

I think i only really truly had 1 full break through...and the only way i was able to fully surrender, was that i was a little drunk i admit, and i literally just didn't fucking care...

In my mind i truly believed if i died, or something bad happened...then its going to happen...and at this point...i fucking died... hahah well at least i moved on to some other reality and lived there for an eternity.(what it felt like)

I forgot who i was, if i was human, my family, any knowledge of my past existence... and so on...

That was the DEEPEST I've gone...amazing yes...scary as hell...also yes...so breakthroughs are very powerful in themselves... so make sure you have a good concept of reality before you go, because i can see younger people not being able to handle the intensity of these trips...






Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: tooconscious on 11 April 2013, 00:43:31
woah woah woah. guys, I finally got to try dmt for the first time last night and have to say it was amazing. First of all, I noticed a lot of first timers here, and like them I too have been somewhat afraid of the full blown trip. so I hesitated and made sure to just dip my toes in with 30mg. used a regular vapor genie, lay on my bed, took one big puff and held it in for about 5 seconds. I had some chill instrumental music on. suddenly this vortex of tingly sensation made its way from the ends of all my limbs, gathering up towards my head. the music most noticeably was altered, slowed, the sides of my vision started closing in and circles full of red and green pyramids hovered in front of my eye lids. this warm glow covered my body, I couldn't stop smiling. some fear started to settle in but I reminded myself to just go with it and soon calmed down. I would open my eyes occasionally and could go in and out of this mind space. after a few minutes it had all but warn off. what I took from this was that I realize just how powerful it can be and to respect it fully. I'm not interested in developing a recreational habit out of dmt or for "getting fucked up". I'm as humbled by this introduction as I wa with my first experience with lsd. I look forward to the teaching powers of this wonderful substance and hope to tell you guys about those deeper trips.

Side note - I noticed moonunit has listings of 1g for extremely cheap. how is that possible? I've only seen one person mention him so i'm not sure how reliable he is. any input would be great.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 11 April 2013, 01:02:36
Brothers,

I want to blast off so bad! I tried making a machine using a small Jack Daniels bottle turned upside down with "chore boy" in the neck and a hole drilled in the top (bottom depending on how you look at it) I pulled the chore out and put the DMT on top and put it back in and tried to heat it and get a rip but it did not work.

Anyways, I am afraid I do not have the means to use this wonderful substance the correct way. I cannot invest in volcanos or a GGV, those are not things that I can have in my home due to my occupation.

I will be attending multiple festivals this summer and will take 1/2g(almost) that I have with me and ask around if anybody has a means to use it. Of course I will share, lol. I believe that the setting will be better for me anyways, I love being in the woods camping, absolutely the most comfortable place for me to use psychedelics, period.

I will hopefully wait for the day time before the music and all the raging starts, I cant wait.

Love and Light,

GT 

@GT, either I am reading this incorrectly or I am too tired ... or both, but may be your answer is simple - do not pull out your chore boy to put DMT into the machine. Keep it in the neck and actually make it well pressed in there by putting bottle onto its neck and push something like pencil or whatever goes thru the hole in the bottom of the bottle. Does this make sense?
Then put bottle normally, push your chore boy a bit inside - 1 or 2 millimeters, not more - put your spice on top, melt it with a lighter a little bit, lie down and put the lighter to the chore boy (try to make flame not touch the spice), inhale.
Just want to tell how i load and smoke through Machine...
1. Put metal wool on a flat surface and then starting to heat it with with torchlight.
2. Next when that wool is heated i quickly dropping on top of it dose of dmt, so eventually it getting premelted. In this case you can easily handle this wool and load it into your machine.
3. My machine is loaded and i`m ready to launch. ;D Taking some time to prepare myself.
4. Ready, steady, go! (this is most tricky part, so you need some practise to understand how it works) Turning on my torchlight and taking it closer to the bottle neck. Depending how big your torchlight flame is you must regulate distance accordingly. I`d say at the begining i keep it around 5sm away from the wool. After few seconds i starting very slowly inhale just to make sure that spice is starting to vape and not to burn it. When i see that thick vapes coming out of the wool i start to inhale little faster. In this stage you also have to regulate distance of the flame. Because when it to far away you will get lighter evaporation which will result in more tokes and of course more time and eventually harder to breakthrough. When the flame is to close you will get much thicker smoke but you can burn the spice(and of course you`ll waste your spice and won`t breakthrough) so you must keep an eye on that. If you starting to feel that disgusting flavor anf some harshness move your torchlight sligthly away. If you do everything right you`ll need 2-3 tokes (or even one) and 30-50mg of spice to breakthrough. Hope it helps.  :D
best vibes.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Flyhigh on 11 April 2013, 01:09:36
That was the DEEPEST I've gone...amazing yes...scary as hell...also yes...so breakthroughs are very powerful in themselves... so make sure you have a good concept of reality before you go, because i can see younger people not being able to handle the intensity of these trips...


awesome dude ....very true...that's why if its your first time, try to have someone there as a sitter.....
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 11 April 2013, 01:42:46
Just want to tell how i load and smoke through Machine...
1. Put metal wool on a flat surface and then starting to heat it with with torchlight.
2. Next when that wool is heated i quickly dropping on top of it dose of dmt, so eventually it getting premelted. In this case you can easily handle this wool and load it into your machine.
3. My machine is loaded and i`m ready to launch. ;D Taking some time to prepare myself.
4. Ready, steady, go! (this is most tricky part, so you need some practise to understand how it works) Turning on my torchlight and taking it closer to the bottle neck. Depending how big your torchlight flame is you must regulate distance accordingly. I`d say at the begining i keep it around 5sm away from the wool. After few seconds i starting very slowly inhale just to make sure that spice is starting to vape and not to burn it. When i see that thick vapes coming out of the wool i start to inhale little faster. In this stage you also have to regulate distance of the flame. Because when it to far away you will get lighter evaporation which will result in more tokes and of course more time and eventually harder to breakthrough. When the flame is to close you will get much thicker smoke but you can burn the spice(and of course you`ll waste your spice and won`t breakthrough) so you must keep an eye on that. If you starting to feel that disgusting flavor anf some harshness move your torchlight sligthly away. If you do everything right you`ll need 2-3 tokes (or even one) and 30-50mg of spice to breakthrough. Hope it helps.  :D
best vibes.

I know I've said it before, but this sounds like an ordeal.  Other vapes are easier but pricey ... I use a simple glass dick and break through on one hit consistently.   I wouldn't put myself out with all these various devices without having tried an oil pipe first.  There are two tricks with this method: learning how far to keep the flame off the bulb (about 1/8 inch), and learning how far into the hit to extinguish it (about 2/3 of a lungful).  It's cheap, easy, and effective.

Side note - I noticed moonunit has listings of 1g for extremely cheap. how is that possible? I've only seen one person mention him so i'm not sure how reliable he is. any input would be great.

I'm glad you enjoyed your first trip.  Believe me, the rabbit hole goes much deeper than this.  I'm actually surprised you got only these effects from 30mg ... perhaps you left a lot of crystal behind?  Anyway, you should always check the OP first for vendor info.  Moon Unit is 2nd on the list and one of our most vouched-for vendors.  I would order from this vendor with confidence.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: htimclock on 11 April 2013, 02:42:30
Spammed my way through so I could finally post here, I have been following it since the start and think that this is a wonderful service.

I recently picked up some DMT from DRshrooms, it is my first time so i can't comment on quality because I have nothing to compare it to, but I can say that it got me where I wanted to go.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 11 April 2013, 04:07:42
Now I know there is a lot to read about the method. Is there is any post that describes the possible tools/props and their costs and any pros and cons there of?

This has been asked so often, I think I'll just add the info to the OP.  I will go ahead and post what I've gleaned from my experience and this thread so far.  Since I'm certainly not the most widely-travelled in terms of methods of consumption, anybody can feel free to supply info that I've omitted and I'll get around to adding that in too.  Scroll past the vendor info to find it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 11 April 2013, 07:10:10
man it's so cool to see so many new comers here trying DMT... Honestly i don't know how you guys all feel but once i tried DMT...all other psychedelics became a distant 2nd.  Now sure i might dable with a little lsd here and there...but nothing compares to a DMT adventure....

Not to mention you can be there and back within 20 min...that i think is my favorite aspect of DMT.  There is no mind fuck for hours, no sleepless nights, and PLENTY of visuals to talk an discuss with you fellow psychonaut buddies!

WOOOT DMT!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 11 April 2013, 07:30:58
How is hookah for all this? I mean the old fashion one which is made of the coconut shell, etc?
@GSE, good question - I have never tried. My gut-feel is that you do not want to have something with large internal volume and large cold surface for vapour to condense on before getting into your lungs, but it might be better for changa. Do not know is a fairer answer though!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: tooconscious on 11 April 2013, 08:11:46
No details on Moon Units dmt? The price seems too good to be true but he's been around for a while. Just looking for information of recent dealings with them. Thanks
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 11 April 2013, 09:30:50
lol..well it was definitely something, it was quite yellow, and i remeber feeling that it was like a wave kinda that washed over me over and over again...like time was resetting over and over again...

It was like i said definitely a strong psychedelic...however the visuals i get from other sources where WAY different from the batch i tried....Like i had no geometry or anything, i just felt like time was repeating over and over again...kinda like i was in a LSD loop for 15 min....was really weird...so i sold that batch off...

i got no complaints...but i think i was just too biased at that point to give it a real shot...

But i have heard complaints that his stuff isn't washed that well...so IDK....

Now this was about 6 months ago i tried his stuff, so he may have improved his synthesis or w/e..

Price is bomb as hell though... so i mean it is worth checking out...

But IMO RogerPete!

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 11 April 2013, 09:41:11
I know I've said it before, but this sounds like an ordeal.
Maybe it is but I found that it works best for me.
Quote
Other vapes are easier but pricey ... I use a simple glass dick and break through on one hit consistently.   I wouldn't put myself out with all these various devices without having tried an oil pipe first.  There are two tricks with this method: learning how far to keep the flame off the bulb (about 1/8 inch), and learning how far into the hit to extinguish it (about 2/3 of a lungful).  It's cheap, easy, and effective.
I have never tried oil pipe only bulb and it was horrible. The biggest disadvantage of these kind of devices its harder to control the temperature. Because you heating the glass directly and very quickly it getting hot. On the other hand devices like machine and similar work slightly other way. When you smoke with machine dmt evaporates mostly with hot air from the flame which comes through the wool so its much easier to control the temperature and not to burn all the spice. GVG works the same way. Maybe you can master your skills and use oil pipe but so far my personal choise is machine.  :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 11 April 2013, 09:55:40
No details on Moon Units dmt? The price seems too good to be true but he's been around for a while. Just looking for information of recent dealings with them. Thanks
He`s long time and trusted seller and his prices always was cheapest on the Road. I don`t know how about nowadays but when i bought from him last year i got waxy orangish jungle spice. I think this is one the reasons why his spice is cheaper than others. Anyway good deal for the price and HEAVY visuals. ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 11 April 2013, 13:20:39
just wanted to inform you guys that pimpit is selling other vendors DMT.

ie: order from pimpit - he sends your address to another vendor who charges less than him, and the other vendor ships your product. so your address is in the hands of 2 people instead of 1.

made an order almost 2 months ago for the "BEST ON SR" DMT.  pics were clear/white looking, but product was yellow/pale.

was expecting my order from pimpit to be domestic and come from Canada but instead came from Czech..

i only figured this out when i made an order from another vendor and received the same stealth as pimpit used.

just wanted to let you guys know - as he's currently in good standing here but lying on his vendor profile.  in the listing i bought (down now) he claimed to find a source outside SR - now on his vendor profile it says he makes it himself..
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: anonman88 on 11 April 2013, 13:27:07
No details on Moon Units dmt? The price seems too good to be true but he's been around for a while. Just looking for information of recent dealings with them. Thanks
i have his stuff right now, got it 2 weeks ago, and i, as well as everyone i've blasted off, enjoys it :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 11 April 2013, 15:38:36
No details on Moon Units dmt? The price seems too good to be true but he's been around for a while. Just looking for information of recent dealings with them. Thanks

Nevermind that this answer is in the OP ... if you can't be bothered to read the response to your question on the last page, don't come asking it again. -1

made an order almost 2 months ago for the "BEST ON SR" DMT.  pics were clear/white looking, but product was yellow/pale.

was expecting my order from pimpit to be domestic and come from Canada but instead came from Czech..

i only figured this out when i made an order from another vendor and received the same stealth as pimpit used.

Care to tell us who this vendor is?  I also got the pale yellow stuff from Czech Rep, and it was good.  It'd be nice to know if someone's selling the same product for cheaper.

I have never tried oil pipe only bulb and it was horrible.

Bulb is much thinner, so it distributes heat poorly and it's much easier to burn the product.  I wasn't recommending that.  I've been using the oil pipe since I started and the was very little learning curve.  Nobody taught me how ... I just smoked the thing in the one way that seemed reasonable to do and it worked.  I've refined my technique a bit, but it's certainly not a master skill.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 11 April 2013, 16:29:09
made an order almost 2 months ago for the "BEST ON SR" DMT.  pics were clear/white looking, but product was yellow/pale.

was expecting my order from pimpit to be domestic and come from Canada but instead came from Czech..

i only figured this out when i made an order from another vendor and received the same stealth as pimpit used.

Care to tell us who this vendor is?  I also got the pale yellow stuff from Czech Rep, and it was good.  It'd be nice to know if someone's selling the same product for cheaper.

There's only 1 vendor selling DMT from Czech.. but ya.. Asylum is the one you want.. legit source, no bullshit or lies.

I initially thought the Czech packaging was part of the stealth but the product looked too much like someone else's listings from Czech, so I took a leap and sure enough.. Not happy when I think I'm getting a domestic letter and a friggin international shows up from a place I've never got mail from before.. nevermind that my address was shared to an extra person. ugh.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: tooconscious on 11 April 2013, 17:08:53
Hmmm GGA,  that's kinda harsh. I'm the type to onlyask questions after going through entire threads, searches etc. Occasionally browsing on my phone, the nested responses here get cluttered and this was clearly a case where I missed your response completely. it happens. I also did see the OP with the mention of one person vouching for this vendor but after reading through (almost) every response, I wasn't seeing his name mentioned. My initial reaction to an established vendor not getting attention is suspicion, so I came to get more details. Sorry that I missed your response but I can assure you I didn't brush past it casually. One clumsy scroll too far down is all it takes. Thanks for your your input though.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Joey Terrifying on 11 April 2013, 17:40:41
i had a really good smoke this morning.

i nodded off into a strange place behind my eyes.  I noticed that it was as if my ego/identity/personality was morphing and splitting into different parts...i actively stopped myself from analyzing this too deeply while it was happening and just let it go on.  i started to notice that when i wanted to adjust my leg or take another hit my inner monologue was saying "he should take another hit" or "he needs to move that pillow out from under his leg."  it was quite odd.  i started to notice that in my vision behind my eyes I was a dog, an old woman, a group of guys, a lizard, or nothing at all.  but my inner monologue kept referring to my body in the third person.  it was weird, but the body high was so good that nothing could bother me.

i kept my eyes open for the last couple hits and found myself looking "through" the visuals.  where often times i'm just so entranced by my swirling ceiling or self-rearranging wall paneling, this time i was looking "through" all that and letting the trippified room just wash over me like water.  hard to explain, but VERY enjoyable.  i said aloud, as I have before "this is beautiful.  DMT, you are an artist."

feeling very cleansed now.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: tooconscious on 11 April 2013, 18:23:10
No details on Moon Units dmt? The price seems too good to be true but he's been around for a while. Just looking for information of recent dealings with them. Thanks
He`s long time and trusted seller and his prices always was cheapest on the Road. I don`t know how about nowadays but when i bought from him last year i got waxy orangish jungle spice. I think this is one the reasons why his spice is cheaper than others. Anyway good deal for the price and HEAVY visuals. ;D

I agree. Moon Unit is one of the oldest dmt vendors that's still around. He just doesn't charge ridiculous prices like everybody else does now. You can get almost 3 grams from Moon Unit for the price that some vendors are charging for 1 gram. I've always heard great things about his product but never got around to trying it because he usually sells out pretty fast every time I intend to. I really can't believe how much people are charging for dmt now. Around this time last year, prices were around half of what they are now.

Thanks dondada. This is what had me very curious. I don't want to list exact prices here but if you compare the 1 gram listings for MU and the rest you'll see just how significantly cheaper they are, which naturally makes you think twice. I've only had experience with rogerpete and he has to be one of the best vendors I've come across here - quality and service. so if MUs stuff comes anywhere near that, I would be more than satisfied.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 11 April 2013, 18:28:10
sorry about the prices :-[...MHRB is in short supply and yields from certain suppliers are way down.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: tooconscious on 11 April 2013, 18:43:50
sorry about the prices :-[...MHRB is in short supply and yields from certain suppliers are way down.

Hey shyguy, I realize the inflated prices are a result of MHRB shortage and that some vendors have access to higher supplies. Me personally, I'm not primarily interested in the lowest possible price. I wouldn't hesitate paying more for reliable service and great quality. So as long as your stuff is good and lines up with the demand, no need to apologize.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 11 April 2013, 22:39:41
When do you guys think it will be more effective to synthesize DMT than extract it? I haven't been paying terrible amount of attention to the MHRB prices lately, but last I saw it was double what I used to pay. Is the price still rising?

I am not familiar with synthesizing DMT at all but if anyone is, do you know what it costs to synthesize it?

With extracting it cost ~$100 for the 15g I'd get from a kg, after the work was done. But now with these MHRB prices I'd guess that it would cost me $180 or so. So, I don't think that the prices should be quite where they are, but close.

But if the price of MHRB is and continues to rise, I think we might see more synthesized DMT popping up.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 12 April 2013, 04:26:46
Anybody get their hands on KidCasio's White DMT?  Just curious if i was the only one spoiled by his purity... ::)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: poolsclosed on 12 April 2013, 05:18:04
A shame MU won't sell to me because of my refund rate. Not my fault Limetless can't deliver packages...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 12 April 2013, 06:59:47
After some deliberation and message exchanges I have had an order with multi exciter - one of the newest vendors trading in DMT. But he was prompt in his responses and they made perfect sense to me and I have given him some advice on Do's and Dont's of SR, which he accepted gracefully and followed selectively - sign of intellect, me thinks.
Anyways - to my order:
Comms -5/5 swift and to the point
Delivery -5/5 one of the fastest ever
Packaging/stealth - 4.5/5 better than most on SR, but I have advised on a minor tweak
Product - have not tried yet, but I know my DMT and this is certainly it - very clean and just off-white powder, guy claims to be a chemist and I trust him he has done his best for his maiden voyage on SR, but in the next couple of days I shall update following testing. Given some advice I have given to him vendor has up weighted my order as a thank you - nice touch!

If all stays the same I can see multi exciter joining the group of jesusofrave, mahakala, sonni, musent and gammagoblin - vendors whose wares I take without much further research into competition!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 12 April 2013, 07:23:56
@poolsclosed, great name! Reminded that I should see The Life of Pi again - amazing work by Ang Li! :-)
Sorry to hear about your problems due to stats - for what is worth I think you are totally right and refunds are less about the buyer's attitude, unlike autofinalises, for example. May be worth while flagging this to the customer support?

@DMTisinME, good question on synthesis vs extraction. I think that rogerpete's wares are synthesised already and they are not at a crazy price premium vs extracted. In case of mescaline 100% of what appears on SR is synthesised. I think this will happen with the spice and it might be a good thing - industrial quantities of ROUT BARK can not be extracted without destroying the bush, which can not be good for the environment. I know that ibogain is in the similar situation and iboga bush apparently is now endangered in Gabon.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: anonman88 on 12 April 2013, 11:41:48
so, since lesseroftwoevils hasn't logged on in a month, if anyone has either of the MHRB sources he was sharing, and could PM it to me, that would be amazing :) some friends are mine are looking to start importing and making their own DMT so we have some local product. any help would be much appreciated :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 12 April 2013, 15:18:50
@anonman88: Will do.  I just started my first extraction last night.  I will be tripping today, and so out of contact ... but I'll post my results as soon as I have some.

@DMTisinME: We missed you.  Good to have you back. -_o
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: kundalini on 12 April 2013, 16:17:53
This is such a great thread!

Last weekend was my first time trying DMT. Now I cant shake the feeling that maybe the best DMT any person can smoke is DMT that he/she extracts himself/herself. This may be an Alchemical belief in that Alchemists believed that when they worked on something, they were transferring their thoughts, emotions, and intent into whatever it was that they were working on. This is why alchemists never allowed anyone into their labs or work area because other peoples thoughts or emotions might have a negative or unexpected effect on their work.

With this in mind, I now want to extract my own DMT from MHRB. By no means am I saying that buying from other people is a bad thing. It just seems to me that the "purest" DMT I can smoke is one extracted or synthesized by me for me.

GGA, I am very interested in acquiring some MHRB as well. I tried looking for it but not really sure how safe it would be ordering from the clearnet. If you or anyone else helps me get some, I would be more than happy to share every last detail of my alchemy experiment :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Joey Terrifying on 12 April 2013, 16:36:57
This is such a great thread!

Last weekend was my first time trying DMT. Now I cant shake the feeling that maybe the best DMT any person can smoke is DMT that he/she extracts himself/herself. This may be an Alchemical belief in that Alchemists believed that when they worked on something, they were transferring their thoughts, emotions, and intent into whatever it was that they were working on. This is why alchemists never allowed anyone into their labs or work area because other peoples thoughts or emotions might have a negative or unexpected effect on their work.

With this in mind, I now want to extract my own DMT from MHRB. By no means am I saying that buying from other people is a bad thing. It just seems to me that the "purest" DMT I can smoke is one extracted or synthesized by me for me.


hehe, i really like the sentiment, and am not discouraging your from performing an extraction....

....but DMT is DMT.  i've extracted my own and also purchased it from someone and both batches were able to deliver everything and more you've ever heard about the DMT experience.

it is very fun and rewarding to extract your own tho. 

but i don't have a source for MHRB right now so I think i'm gonna buy some synthetic DMT soon.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DayDreamer on 12 April 2013, 18:05:52
just popping in to say that mahakala's DMT is fucking amazing!!
I measured out about 100 mg, and split it into 3 piles, 2 bigger ones and a small one, probably about 25 mg.
Loaded the small pile into a one-hitter pipe, covered it with 2 layers of metal mesh, and heated up the mesh.

I believe this was the most effective wasy to smoke DMT so far.
I slowly pulled on the pipe, wondering if it was working at all.
I could not feel any harshness, could not taste or smell anything...

And then it hit me

Wow!! Just fucking WOW!!!

Those fractals are  so amazing! The consciousness forgets about the body, it is so engrossed in the light show.
It was another world, full of beauty and peace. Breathing and moving become difficult. The body feels like it is being squeezed by elephants.
The mind does not like this. It does not like being interrupted to breathe, when the show is so pretty. The warmth, the bliss.. Aaaahhhhh
I think i had a mind orgasm at that point.
This had to have been the most intense it got for me so far, but i have smoked higher quantities before, but most definitely incorrectly, and resulted in just some nice color shows.

Still afraid of going for a breakthrough.. not ready yet.

I have also sampled mahakala's changa, and i must say the trip has a different feel to it. More uncomfortable, more anxious and the the lights are dim. I blame it on low quantity and less than perfect set and setting.
Also, changa fractals are more organic and slower, and it is even possible to have them frozen for a few moments. This never happened on DMT.

I have also smoked JoR's source A and source B DMT. These i used mostly for experimenting and to perfect my technique.

DMT has truly been the most beautiful discovery, thanks to silk road and JoR ( his source A was my first ever DMT trip )

Love and peace to everyone!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 12 April 2013, 23:34:56
This is such a great thread!

Last weekend was my first time trying DMT. Now I cant shake the feeling that maybe the best DMT any person can smoke is DMT that he/she extracts himself/herself. This may be an Alchemical belief in that Alchemists believed that when they worked on something, they were transferring their thoughts, emotions, and intent into whatever it was that they were working on. This is why alchemists never allowed anyone into their labs or work area because other peoples thoughts or emotions might have a negative or unexpected effect on their work.

With this in mind, I now want to extract my own DMT from MHRB. By no means am I saying that buying from other people is a bad thing. It just seems to me that the "purest" DMT I can smoke is one extracted or synthesized by me for me.


hehe, i really like the sentiment, and am not discouraging your from performing an extraction....

....but DMT is DMT.  i've extracted my own and also purchased it from someone and both batches were able to deliver everything and more you've ever heard about the DMT experience.

it is very fun and rewarding to extract your own tho. 

but i don't have a source for MHRB right now so I think i'm gonna buy some synthetic DMT soon.

Exactly like joe says. It's nice to smoke something you made because you made it, but if you are shitty at extracting, it'd still be shitty DMT. I've had equal results from both mine and bought DMT.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 13 April 2013, 07:49:47
And since we are on synthesis - did anyone try to extract from a lot more common precursor? Like phalaris grasses? Clearnet warning - http://www.erowid.org/plants/phalaris/phalaris.shtml
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: chil on 13 April 2013, 13:12:54

☺♥❅☆★❀✪☼♛☯☮OMNIS’Pharmahuasca Review☺♥❅☆★❀✪☼♛☯☮

First of all, I’d like to present my public apologies to Omnis, who has been waiting for two months since he sent me this sample. My schedule wouldn’t allow me the right circumstances to test this product, but now I finally had the chance to do so, and Id’ like to thank Omnis for his extreme patience and understanding. You rule brother, and sorry if I pissed you off with the delay.

The transaction went very smoothly, the product came really fast from a neighbouring country. Now, one thing I’d like to emphasize is how good the communication during the whole process was. That is, I had many questions to ask since it was my first pharmahuasca experience and he patiently replied to them all. Upon seeing the product, I asked him specific details, such as the tek he used, and he reassured me about some other concerns.  So, communication gets a 5+/5.

Packaging was normal, some would call it stealth, but I wouldn’t (see my other thread about the concept of stealth in the Security department).  A few additional layers and a better weight repartition would be welcome in order to ensure maximum security, but hey, I’m just nitpicking here, the package made it safely and I’ve received many others like this one.  Packaging -> 4/5

The product consists of 315mg Harmine and 50mg DMT, coming in two separate ziplock baggies. The DMT was light brown in colour, making me wonder if it was jungle spice (I’ve only had pure white DMT in my life), but Omnis told me it wasn’t and that I should be confident about that. I  had done my research on pharmahuasca prior to the experience, and was also a little concerned about the harmine dose, which seemed to be too much. Evenutally, it wasn’t. 

So with the Harmine I made two caps, with an overall weight of about 280mg (I didn’t had the patience to scrape the remains off the baggie, and the remains in my scale measuring cup). I dissolved the DMT in orange juice and let it sit.

Set: good, I’m going through some rough times in my life, with lots of change, but I’m taking care of myself and was looking forward the pharmahuasca experience, hoping to solve a few dilemmas I’m facing.
Setting: my place, my bed, dim lights.
Relevant prior drug experiences: Ayahuasca, DMT & Changa. (Note: Even though all these preparations contain DMT, I will refer to them specifically. For instance, when I refer to DMT, I’ll be talking about smoked DMT.)
On an empty stomach, I took the Harmine caps and meditated. After 30 minutes, I wasn’t feeling anything special.  I then drank the DMT juice and put on some music while waiting for the DMT to kick in. This is now T+0.00.

At T+0.10, the first bodily effects took place with an increase of body warmth and some slight waves.

At T+0.20, my body was buzzing, the body high was progressively getting stronger. No CEVs yet. I start thinking about my issues.

At T+ 0.30, some mild CEVs started. A lot of things were happening in my body. I’m vibing, with my body and my emotions, and being sad about something in my life.  At this point I pray the DMT spirit to
be kind with me.

At T+0.40, I was having clear CEVs, lots of colours swirling around, comparable to a DMT come up but without the rush.

At T+0.50, CEV’s were sharper and even more colourful. My thoughts are now everywhere, my mind is unquiet. I’m gaining confidence in the experience and start being convinced that it’s all gonna turn good. I try opening my eyes to check for OEVs, but it’s very hard to keep my eyes open, and I’m like, fuck it, this is going to be a closed-eyes trip, I was not interested in OEVs at all.

At T+1.00, I’m getting full blown CEVs, that definitely look like a DMT trip but more grounded, like Changa. I’m in the DMT world, I know it. This is nothing like Ayahuasca, the visuals have nothing to do with the Ayahuasca worlds. I sink my head in my pillows, I’m feeling very confortable and my body is vibrating. It feels like I’m suspended, and sometimes my body moves and levitates. The bodily feeling is unlike Ayahuasca too, it’s something very different. I’m thinking about an issue with my best friend and how to solve it. I get a feeling of awe and reverence towards this product. I’m visiting another dimension and it feels safe and comforting. The insights are coming. This is absolutely amazing. The visuals are stunning.

At T+1.20, the cosmos is manipulating my DNA and modifiying something in it, I’m not sure what, but it feels like the Cosmos is writing its TRUTH in my deepest self. This moment lasted a few seconds. Amazing.

At T+ 1.30, I have already solved the issue with my best friend and gained tremendous insight about a few other problems she had, and I feel extremely happy to have found something she might not even be aware of. I can’t wait to see her and tell her. Right after this satisfaction and mostly, big relief, I feel the urge to puke. I contemplate the idea of trying to keep it all in, but the more I struggled, the more it wanted to come out. In the shamanic paradigm, puking is called purging, because it symbolizes the moment where you have to get rid of bad energies accumulated. So I let myself throw up and just a little bit of orange juice (and DMT I guess) comes out. I feel a lot better suddenly, some residual nausea, but totally manageable. At this point, I feel deeply grateful to the Spirit and to Omnis, I’m thinking this one of the best experiences I’ve ever had. I keep on thinking about many things, and let me tell you that even though I knew the trip would start decreasing in strength due to the puking, I didn’t mind at all. I’d had enough, and more than I asked for. I had been tripping for cosmic hours and I had seen awe-inspiring things.

So indeed, I started coming down, but very slowly and progressively. The visuals are fading away. Yet, it’s from that point that I start receiving TONS of insights about my life. Literally, TONS of them. I laugh at the quantity of insights, I’ve never had so many of them, and this, after 18 years of tripping experience. I feel so happy right now, this is something to be remembered.
And it was like that for the next hour and a half or so.  Insights, decisions, insights, and decisions about my life.
As I was in the last part of the coming down, I decided to smoke a spliff which was quite nice and brought some of the effects back but still I felt I should have stayed clean and let the pharma do its work on its own.

I feel comfortable about increasing the DMT dosage next time, something around 70 or 80 mg. But try with 50mg first.

At  T+4.00, I went to sleep.

Conclusion:

This was a landmark experience in my 18+ years of tripping, definitely in my top ten all-time experiences. It’s definitely quite strong and not something I would recommend to newbies. It is like a Changa experience that lasts for hours, without the rush and the “WTF JUSt HAPPENED” moments. For those seeking an Ayahuasca experience, this is not it, this is something very different, but no less enlightening. The visuals are awesome, the insights too. Today I am a slightly changed person, and am looking forward to integrating the lessons of the Spirit in my life.

Omnis, brother, I’d like to thank you deeply from the bottom of my heart to have brought to me this unforgettable experience. <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

SR Community, I encourage you to support this vendor and his product, it’s a spiritual bomb that will enlighten you deeply. Omnis only has a few  dozen transactions so far, so please support Omnis, he’s a great guy and has a product that I will definitely reorder. Some of you might think that 60 bucks is a bit too much for a single experience, but it’s totally worth it, it’s something outlandish.  For those who will order this product and not feel the intensity I have felt, I feel sorry for you, perhaps you are not ready to be given such an experience.

All in all, I give this product the following rating:       ****COSMIC TRUTH / 5 *******


☺♥❅☆★❀✪☼♛☯☮☺♥❅☆★❀✪☼♛☯☮☺♥❅☆★❀✪☼♛☯☮☺♥❅☆★❀✪☼♛☯☮
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 13 April 2013, 15:27:15
@chil, +1 for sharing - I really enjoyed reading it!
Did it really take only 4 hours?
Did you fast/diet before it?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: chil on 13 April 2013, 15:42:07
@chil, +1 for sharing - I really enjoyed reading it!
Did it really take only 4 hours?
Did you fast/diet before it?

I peaked at T+1.30, puked and then it was the comedown for 2 hours. So yeah, roughly 4 hours. But as I said, this was enough. Also, the ayahuasca trips I've done were between 1 hour 30 and 7 hours. Trip lenghth can vary immensely  regardless of any other factors. IMO, we cannot control the lenght, the spirit does. Yet you could always dose a little more harmine and see how that prolong the effects. But yeah, it was very much like a very long changa trip.

I did not do any special diet, just refrained from eating Harmine-interacting foods (such as food with high tyramine content) and ate a light meal 4 hours before (5 sushis and a piece of bread).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 13 April 2013, 17:36:33
@chil, +1 for sharing - I really enjoyed reading it!
Did it really take only 4 hours?
Did you fast/diet before it?

I peaked at T+1.30, puked and then it was the comedown for 2 hours. So yeah, roughly 4 hours. But as I said, this was enough. Also, the ayahuasca trips I've done were between 1 hour 30 and 7 hours. Trip lenghth can vary immensely  regardless of any other factors. IMO, we cannot control the lenght, the spirit does. Yet you could always dose a little more harmine and see how that prolong the effects. But yeah, it was very much like a very long changa trip.

I did not do any special diet, just refrained from eating Harmine-interacting foods (such as food with high tyramine content) and ate a light meal 4 hours before (5 sushis and a piece of bread).

Nice and easy! Thank you!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 14 April 2013, 23:30:04
EXTRACTION UPDATE: I started my DMT extraction on Thursday night and just today completed my first pull (extraction, precipitation, filtering, washing .... it's still drying).  The method I'm using is a sort of hybridisation of the Norman tek I referred to earlier and the instructions DMTisinME gave (p. 15 of this thread I think).

I'm extracting in 4 1-gal HDPE jars.  Each contain about 250g MHRB, 8oz NaOH, and 3L filtered water.  By "first pull" I of course mean the first pull from each mixing jar.  I am using DMTisinME's heated extraction technique, but have super-chilled my freezer to allow better precipitation so that I can filter and re-use naphtha (cf. Norman tek).

The first big lesson I learned was that I should have bought an actual pipette.  I thought I could separate the naphtha from the MHRB-lye solution by careful decanting (since Norman mentioned this as a possibility), but this was utterly useless.  The first jar I separated using only an eye dropper, which was incredibly tedious.  What I've settled on for now is siphoning what I can and using the eyedropper to get the rest.  I don't encourage siphoning ... the naphtha fumes are very unpleasant.

What precipitated out of my first pull were perfectly white crystals sitting on a bed of red mud.  I first just poured the naphtha through a filter, and it went through easily leaving the white DMT crystals which had been free-floating.  I should have used another filter for the mud and the crystals on it, but I didn't.  I did try at first to remove only the crystals from the top, but this was not successful.

I added the crystals and mud to the white snow I'd already collected and put the whole thing through an ammonia wash.  The vast majority of the mud washed out, and I was left with a large amount of pale yellow crystal, but it was still flecked with brownish spots,  Even now, there are places where the crystal is almost white and others where it is yellow and even brownish.  I did the wash twice, and the brown stuff appears to be here to stay.

I don't mind having some rough extract, as I can use it for pharma kits, but I wish now I had kept the white stuff I'd already separated away from the mud.  I will do this with the rest of my pulls, and hopefully this gives me enough smoking-grade extract that I won't have to recrystallise ... but I'm prepared to do that too.  Anyway, that's what's going on.  I'll update with a yield once everything's finished.

PS: Thanx again, DMTisinME (but I do have to say this is MUCH more work than baking a cake -_o).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Joey Terrifying on 15 April 2013, 00:29:07
^^^ I've found the best thing to use for siphoning off the naphtha is a "puppy feeding syringe"  it costs less than 5 bucks at petco and works perfectly for me
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Joey Terrifying on 15 April 2013, 00:31:20
do any of you guys know if rogerpete is open to custom orders?  I have 1.1 BTC and really want to get some DMT before may 1st (my box is getting shut down).  i'm scrambling now, cuz my last batch of self-extracted deems is running out and i can't get a hold of any MHRB currently.

will pay 1.1 BTC for DMT!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 15 April 2013, 01:17:06
Nice one, @GGA, I am very jealous!
What is the end weight from how much of MHRB?
Good luck!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: poolsclosed on 15 April 2013, 17:03:26
@poolsclosed, great name! Reminded that I should see The Life of Pi again - amazing work by Ang Li! :-)
Sorry to hear about your problems due to stats - for what is worth I think you are totally right and refunds are less about the buyer's attitude, unlike autofinalises, for example. May be worth while flagging this to the customer support?
Gosh, thanks  8)

But it's fine. MU has the right to do business with whomever he/she/they choose(s). It's a bit of a blanket restriction unfortunately, but I don't think anyone should tell MU what to do. I hope my little complain gets noticed though... for now I had to go with another vendor  ::)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 15 April 2013, 17:27:30
PS: Thanx again, DMTisinME (but I do have to say this is MUCH more work than baking a cake -_o).

Did I say this? It is definitely more work than baking a cake -- requiring a longer duration and much more concentration. From the technique I gave the hardest part is certainly taking the top layer of naphtha off the concoction, and would have been even harder using the method you said. This is probably the most important step.

The heat bath is a big help -- but just a stern warning to anyone who wants to try this: USE GLASS! No plastic! The first time I upgraded to a "full batch" of a kg of MHRB, I used the only container big enough I could find lying around, which was plastic. During the water bath it burned through the plastic and I was left with an over-water MHRB , lye, and naphtha stew that had flakes of paper from the outside of the container in it. I couldn't help myself from smiling at how big of a fuck-up it was while I was frantically trying to fix it. The DMT turned out extra waxy & weird in the end even after a wash and recrystallization. However, somehow it was still quite good.

But just some advice for any beginner extractor: start off small. The more you are trying to make at once, the harder it gets, and the more is on the line. I had quite a bit of experience before moving up to 1 kg, and even then it took me another 2 go's to get it down perfectly. I should also mention that I used a very modified tek when I moved up to a kg.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 15 April 2013, 18:51:12
PS: Thanx again, DMTisinME (but I do have to say this is MUCH more work than baking a cake -_o).

Did I say this?

I think so.  I won' bother hunting down a quote ... I didn't actually think you were serious at he time.

The heat bath is a big help -- but just a stern warning to anyone who wants to try this: USE GLASS! No plastic! The first time I upgraded to a "full batch" of a kg of MHRB, I used the only container big enough I could find lying around, which was plastic. During the water bath it burned through the plastic and I was left with an over-water MHRB , lye, and naphtha stew that had flakes of paper from the outside of the container in it. I couldn't help myself from smiling at how big of a fuck-up it was while I was frantically trying to fix it. The DMT turned out extra waxy & weird in the end even after a wash and recrystallization. However, somehow it was still quite good.

But just some advice for any beginner extractor: start off small. The more you are trying to make at once, the harder it gets, and the more is on the line. I had quite a bit of experience before moving up to 1 kg, and even then it took me another 2 go's to get it down perfectly. I should also mention that I used a very modified tek when I moved up to a kg.

So this advise comes a bit late for me.  Most teks say to use glass, which I found odd because lye is mildly corrosive to glass and strongly corrosive to metals (such as the lids to glass jars).  I did read about peoples' plastic jars shattering in the heat, and I specifically chose HDPE jars because this is a sturdy, high-grade plastic which is rated to withstand a very wide range of temperatures.

As I noted earlier, I jumped right into the 1kg extraction.  I did indeed have a minor fiasco too.  The jars themselves performed fine in the heat, but one jar's lid managed to come loose in the heat bath.  I grabbed it by the top to lift it out and agitate it, but the lid came off and the jar fell back in the bath splashing out naphtha,  This would have been all that happened it the bath was in a crock pot, but since I don't have one of those, it was in a brew kettle (I prefer to call it a cauldron) on a gas range.  So I immediately had a small naphtha fire.  It was not major: I blew it out with three quick breaths.

This is funny, because all along I'd been very careful to do solvent exchanges outside so their fumes wouldn't reach my pilot light, etc.  Then I ended up having a naphtha fire.  Fortunately it wasn't a big deal and nothing was damaged.  I will be careful about that scenario in the future, though. -_o
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 15 April 2013, 19:35:47
So this advise comes a bit late for me.  Most teks say to use glass, which I found odd because lye is mildly corrosive to glass and strongly corrosive to metals (such as the lids to glass jars).  I did read about peoples' plastic jars shattering in the heat, and I specifically chose HDPE jars because this is a sturdy, high-grade plastic which is rated to withstand a very wide range of temperatures.

Sorry about that coming too late. You should be fine with that type of plastic since the bath doesn't get all too hot. The plastic I used was very cheap. Although I've never used it, I have read many teks calling for plastic milk jugs, which I would advise against.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 15 April 2013, 22:18:27
most gallon jugs are HDPE. PET plastic should be fine also as far as naphtha goes. i make soap so i've mixed up my fair share of lye solution and these days i see it as foolish to use anything but stainless steel or an appropriate plastic. i had 1 jar shatter and spill lye all over the place before learning that lesson :o
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 15 April 2013, 22:55:31
most gallon jugs are HDPE. PET plastic should be fine also as far as naphtha goes. i make soap so i've mixed up my fair share of lye solution and these days i see it as foolish to use anything but stainless steel or an appropriate plastic. i had 1 jar shatter and spill lye all over the place before learning that lesson :o

I was talking about in regards to the heat from the water bath, not lye. And i was going off of what GGA said about their ability to withstand a range of temperature. If this is true, I would not recommend HDPE, really most plastic won't do too well when heat is applied. I always used glass, and never had a problem with the lye.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 15 April 2013, 23:15:39
I'm not really sure what plastic milk jugs are made of.  If it's HDPE, it should say so on the bottom.  HDPE can withstand continuous temps of up to 230ºF (according to wikipedia).  Milk jugs are quite thin-walled, though, and I would still worry about whether the vessel would withstand the pressure even if the temp wasn't a problem.  To each his own though ... as long as you don't burn your hands off with lye. -_o
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ro-Jaws on 16 April 2013, 14:39:58
HDPE is fine with the heat bath. I used to use 1L HDPE Jars for my extractions and never had a problem (though obviously I left the lid off during heating to avoid pressure build up). The only disadvantage I found was that extracting the naptha was harder with an opaque container.

@DMTisinME - do you have to clean your crystals before use?
I ask because I used to use a heat bath but I found the hot naptha picked up some of the NaOH/MHRB solution and my crystals ranged from yellow all the way to red/brown, generally needing a wash and/or recrystallisation to be properly clean.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Rainbow Snail on 16 April 2013, 15:02:21
Hello everybody,

I just stumbled upon this thread and I'm so glad I did. I was hoping someone would start up a thread similar to that of the LSD avengers for other drugs and especially DMT, Thanks OP, +1 if I had more posts, will probably make it there quickly now that I found this thread :)

I feel honoured to have a mention in the OP and someone vouch for while I was totally unaware

If there is any interest I am quite keen to send out super-cheap samples of DMT to experienced psychonauts and credible forum members in exchange for reviews here and on my own review thread. Let me know via PM or inbox on the road

Also I want to start making pharmahuasca capsules and vend them to fellow travellers, if anyone has experience with the best ingredients, methods and dosages with this I would love to know!

RS




Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 16 April 2013, 16:49:35
@DMTisinME - do you have to clean your crystals before use?
I ask because I used to use a heat bath but I found the hot naptha picked up some of the NaOH/MHRB solution and my crystals ranged from yellow all the way to red/brown, generally needing a wash and/or recrystallisation to be properly clean.

This is entirely a judgement call. Once the original spice had dried I would judge it by color and texture and decide whether or not a recrystallization was worth it -- I rarely did any ammonia washes and went straight to recrystallization. However, I really only recrystallized with larger batches, and once I got it down it really wasn't necessary. However my DMT almost always came out very well without any post-cleansings. I never had any orange-red-brown looking stuff at all, but did had some yellower & waxier than desired a few times.

You should let the naphtha separate completely from the mucky solution to the top of the jar, then very carefully extract as much of the naphtha you can from the big jar to a smaller jar. Precision is needed here. If you get any sort of brown or anything that is not clear, you should get that out of your naphtha. When you pour the naphtha into the tray that you put in the freezer it should look almost identical to the naphtha you poured in originally, but maybe a little foggy, like salt water.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 16 April 2013, 19:16:50
Hello everybody,

I just stumbled upon this thread and I'm so glad I did. I was hoping someone would start up a thread similar to that of the LSD avengers for other drugs and especially DMT, Thanks OP, +1 if I had more posts, will probably make it there quickly now that I found this thread :)

I feel honoured to have a mention in the OP and someone vouch for while I was totally unaware

If there is any interest I am quite keen to send out super-cheap samples of DMT to experienced psychonauts and credible forum members in exchange for reviews here and on my own review thread. Let me know via PM or inbox on the road

Also I want to start making pharmahuasca capsules and vend them to fellow travellers, if anyone has experience with the best ingredients, methods and dosages with this I would love to know!

RS

Hello to you too and thank you for your kind offer.

It is a shame I am not in Oz to take you up on it.

You are the first Oz vendor I encounter - what is the reason for most prices in Oz being double or more of those in Europe or US?

I think your idea of pharmahuasca capsules is a great one. From my research it would appear that fumerate salt is the best option here. If it was me making them I would make them either 50 or 25mg each - most erowid trips seem to be at 50mg or 100mg or 150mg (most of these latter ones are a bit scary :)

best of luck and good to have you here!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 16 April 2013, 19:25:13
@GGA, DMTisinME, you guys rock - I admire your ability to do your own extraction - very jealous!!!
Have you ever tried of have heard of extractions from Phalaris grasses or some other more widely available species?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 16 April 2013, 21:58:23
@DMTisinME - do you have to clean your crystals before use?
I ask because I used to use a heat bath but I found the hot naptha picked up some of the NaOH/MHRB solution and my crystals ranged from yellow all the way to red/brown, generally needing a wash and/or recrystallisation to be properly clean.

This is entirely a judgement call. Once the original spice had dried I would judge it by color and texture and decide whether or not a recrystallization was worth it -- I rarely did any ammonia washes and went straight to recrystallization. However, I really only recrystallized with larger batches, and once I got it down it really wasn't necessary. However my DMT almost always came out very well without any post-cleansings. I never had any orange-red-brown looking stuff at all, but did had some yellower & waxier than desired a few times.

You should let the naphtha separate completely from the mucky solution to the top of the jar, then very carefully extract as much of the naphtha you can from the big jar to a smaller jar. Precision is needed here. If you get any sort of brown or anything that is not clear, you should get that out of your naphtha. When you pour the naphtha into the tray that you put in the freezer it should look almost identical to the naphtha you poured in originally, but maybe a little foggy, like salt water.

As I wrote earlier, I also got the mud.  The problem is that my methods for removing the naphtha stir up the basified MHRB solution into the naphtha because they use suction.  You can get around this by using multiple containers for the naphtha (I use plastic lunch meat tubs) and separating off the mud by allowing it to settle and decanting off the naphtha from one to the other.  Even better if you allow the settling to occur in the freezer, as the mud will freeze before the DMT starts to crystalise.

At the end of three pulls, I have about 9.5g of pale yellow extract and about 2g of yellow-orange extract (mostly from my first pull) ... and of course whatever's still suspended in my recycled naphtha.  Unlike DMTisinME, my naphtha has turned light yellow after its first use.  Also, I've notice that if you refreeze your filtered naphtha before re-using it, you get further crystallisation---I figure it's best to clean it as much as possible before putting it back in, and so I've been double- and triple-filtering my naphtha before re-using it (I have some crystals in the tubs waiting for me now).

Long story short: I think it's safe to say at this point the MHRB I'm using is pretty legit (for those who had asked).  I will perform at least 2 or 3 more pulls, and expect to keep getting more, but from my results so far, it doesn't seem like I'm dealing with weak stuff.

@Rainbow Snail: Before my DMT extraction, I extracted a lot of harmala alkaloids (from syrian rue).  I had some success with about 100mg harmala and 150mg DMT ... but I feel like the DMT might have been under-activated.  Someone recently wrote a report about taking about 300mg harmaline with 50mg DMT.  My next experiment will probably be 200mg harmala extract with 200mg rough DMT extract (i.e., the orange-yellow stuff ... partly because that's what I intend to use this for and need to figure out the dosage).  I'll keep you updated.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 16 April 2013, 23:25:12
but maybe a little foggy, like salt water.
Unlike DMTisinME, my naphtha has turned light yellow after its first use. 
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The fog i spoke of was slightly yellow in character.

Long story short: I think it's safe to say at this point the MHRB I'm using is pretty legit (for those who had asked).  I will perform at least 2 or 3 more pulls, and expect to keep getting more, but from my results so far, it doesn't seem like I'm dealing with weak stuff.

Good to hear. You haven't sampled your spice yet have you? I'm sure you'd let us know. I'm remembering a long while back right after I finished extracting it for the first time and even before I had tried DMT, once the extraction was done and I was all ready to smoke it. It was such a rush. Because I had never smoked it or even seen the stuff, I remember thinking "how am I 100% sure that this is even DMT?" "Did I do it right?" Then I smoked it and there was absolutely no mistake.  ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 17 April 2013, 00:32:36
Anyone had any experience with Acacia Confusia extracts? I managed to acquire a Kg of shredded root bark. I have read a lot about folks having issues with the crystals "oiling out". PM me if you have a decent tek for me.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: kundalini on 17 April 2013, 00:49:52
The purpose of this post is to express my gratitude to RogerPete.

Thank you rogerpete for such a wonderful molecule you have decided to share with us. Your beautiful DMT has shown me such an incredible vision of joy and happiness! Your such a beautiful person for sharing your molecule with us. Thank you!

***BIG HUG AND KISS***

I had such an incredible break through experience. Much love to all!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 17 April 2013, 01:32:05
You haven't sampled your spice yet have you? I'm sure you'd let us know.

I haven't smoked any DMT since the 'dead end' trip I mentioned (you may have missed this post while you were gone).  I considered it while coming down from my LSD trip on Friday ... but the day had been so mind-blowingly successful already that I couldn't imagine what the DMT could really add.  At this point, I'm going to stick with what I said and not smoke anymore for a few weeks.  I may end up sampling my rough extract in a pharma trip before I smoke the good stuff.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 17 April 2013, 08:32:35
I had a really great trip on Moon Unit's DMT tonight. I did about 55mg and met some little sprite faeries who flirted and winked. I was shown a great light beyond a seam and they were landing on my body and sealing holes in my aura. One stayed over my heart. I literally wept with love A couple night ago I had a bit of a darker journey seeing soaring tentacled creatures devouring other entities. I was not afraid it was as if they could not see me.  I had this intense amount of sadness and I thought about all the violence in the world that has been overwhelming me lately. The faeries seemed to sense this energy and were intent to heal me. I literally wept with love for them. They also feed me some small piece of light which I could taste on the tip of my tongue. It was beautiful.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: chil on 17 April 2013, 08:38:53
Beautiful story, princeblack ! Weeping with love is such an intense feeling... :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 18 April 2013, 02:15:59
I'm clueless about smoking/vaporizing devices, maybe since I've never responded to weed like others and smoking just isn't my thing.

Is a glass oil pipe the same as an oil burner?  Can somebody give me a link to such a device?  Do you just put the DMT straight into it?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 18 April 2013, 02:29:04
You haven't sampled your spice yet have you? I'm sure you'd let us know.

I haven't smoked any DMT since the 'dead end' trip I mentioned (you may have missed this post while you were gone).  I considered it while coming down from my LSD trip on Friday ... but the day had been so mind-blowingly successful already that I couldn't imagine what the DMT could really add.  At this point, I'm going to stick with what I said and not smoke anymore for a few weeks.  I may end up sampling my rough extract in a pharma trip before I smoke the good stuff.

Ahh I believe I did miss that. I'll have to read that, but I'm sure I know what you mean. About 2 weeks ago I hit some of rogerpete's spice and I traveled to a place that was very very real, I was myself as a baby in a crib and my dad was standing over me, and was conveying something without speaking to me that was so profound -- it was more like a bridge between us that connected our consciousnesses. It was like I saw the pureness of love between us when I was a baby and compared that to now, where it has deteriorated very much. It was so emotionally involving (and honestly tanking) that I was not and still am not in the mood/mindset to use the spice again, though I am thinking of returning soon.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 18 April 2013, 02:45:16
@slirp, here is a link to the most common oil pipe. You can get one in your local headshop for 2-3 bucks. I seem to remember someone calling it "crack pipe" on another forum, but I have never tried crack, so no idea if she was right. http://www.marijuana.sk/images/glass_oil_pipe_big.jpg

@DMTisinME, what a trip!
I doubt there is a lot less love from him to you, but guys tend to have trouble expressing it ... We also have a tendency to let disappointment vs our own expectations get in a way of many a thing. Expressing live for a child is so much easier for even the "toughest" of dads.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 18 April 2013, 03:05:10
Ahh I believe I did miss that. I'll have to read that, but I'm sure I know what you mean. About 2 weeks ago I hit some of rogerpete's spice and I traveled to a place that was very very real, I was myself as a baby in a crib and my dad was standing over me, and was conveying something without speaking to me that was so profound -- it was more like a bridge between us that connected our consciousnesses. It was like I saw the pureness of love between us when I was a baby and compared that to now, where it has deteriorated very much. It was so emotionally involving (and honestly tanking) that I was not and still am not in the mood/mindset to use the spice again, though I am thinking of returning soon.

It was really not like that.  The post I referred to is this one: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=128241.msg963335#msg963335, but I only mentioned the trip in passing.  My DMT trips don't tend to be like what you described ... rather, although the experience is always different, it always seems to show me the untempered abstract---the true nature of existence/awareness/mysticism.  When I say I had the 'dead end' trip, what I experienced was like a review lesson.  I had the impression of: 'This is it.  There's no more to it.  You should have got all this by now.'

I've had this trip 2 or 3 times before and it's a signal for me to take a break, which is why I backed off.  Your trip sounds much different.  I have recovered memories from early childhood and even infancy in dreams and on salvia, but not on DMT (yet, that is).

@slirp: Yes, the pic incogmagnito gave is the right thing.  Because DMT vapourises at much lower temps than hash, it may be best to get one with a shorter neck (the vapour crystalises on the glass, and the more neck, the more you lose to this effect ... although it is recoverable).  2--3 USD sounds a little low, but they are not expensive nonetheless.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 18 April 2013, 05:16:31
So i just wanna pop in and give a quick experience report for RogerPete.  First of all, his stealth and packaging is VERY thorough.  No chance of ANY smell getting through.  Also he had the Fastest Delivery time ever known to man.  I didn't know i could receive my product that quick. 

I put a custom order in and this guy hooked it up so fatty i don't want to say how much, just in case he wants it back =P

As for the quality, PHENOMENAL!  Now i have been doing DMT for about 2 years now, and i have done everything from pure white crystal to pure yellow crystal to yellow powder to changa to pretty much everything.

RP's ranks right there with the best I've done.  You might pay a bit extra but this guy has some MIND BENDING, SOUL TRANSCENDING, UNIVERSE BLASTING DMT

I put 50MG in my volcano and i had to open my eyes... i was being sucked into the deemster realm so fucking fast, i freaked out for a second(its been a while since my last trip =P ).  Once i opened my eyes, the visuals were so beautiful i was lost in a trance...i couldn't do anything but stare at all the swirling beautiful colors moving to Glitch Mob!!!

Anyways...i know there are other vendors out there, but if yer in USA, and you want quality product...that i personally can GUARANFUCKINGTEE is....RP
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 18 April 2013, 19:24:40
Ahh I believe I did miss that. I'll have to read that, but I'm sure I know what you mean. About 2 weeks ago I hit some of rogerpete's spice and I traveled to a place that was very very real, I was myself as a baby in a crib and my dad was standing over me, and was conveying something without speaking to me that was so profound -- it was more like a bridge between us that connected our consciousnesses. It was like I saw the pureness of love between us when I was a baby and compared that to now, where it has deteriorated very much. It was so emotionally involving (and honestly tanking) that I was not and still am not in the mood/mindset to use the spice again, though I am thinking of returning soon.

It was really not like that.  The post I referred to is this one: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=128241.msg963335#msg963335, but I only mentioned the trip in passing.  My DMT trips don't tend to be like what you described ... rather, although the experience is always different, it always seems to show me the untempered abstract---the true nature of existence/awareness/mysticism.  When I say I had the 'dead end' trip, what I experienced was like a review lesson.  I had the impression of: 'This is it.  There's no more to it.  You should have got all this by now.'

I've had this trip 2 or 3 times before and it's a signal for me to take a break, which is why I backed off.  Your trip sounds much different.  I have recovered memories from early childhood and even infancy in dreams and on salvia, but not on DMT (yet, that is).

Oh, sorry for the confusion, I thought that was what you meant by "dead end trip" and that's not how I would describe the experience I had, the only reason I brought it up was because I was also on a DMT hiatus, which will be ending here shortly  ;)

This was also a first for childhood memories on DMT. Very few of my trips every resemble reality, and this one was even alternating between "entities" dancing around poles in an all white space and the thing with my dad.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Intraterrestrial on 18 April 2013, 20:29:05
Cannot review product yet (will do so when sampled) but just letting the community know that new DMT vendor Multi Exciter ships quickly with good stealth. Product looks good and is slightly overweight.

Purchase went very smoothly with excellent communication.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 18 April 2013, 22:11:05
Cannot review product yet (will do so when sampled) but just letting the community know that new DMT vendor Multi Exciter ships quickly with good stealth. Product looks good and is slightly overweight.

Purchase went very smoothly with excellent communication.

I just had a 30mg trip on multi exciter's DMT - very clean, just off-white powderised christals for stealth.
As all other trips I can not recall details of anything, but the learning is ludicrously simple - life = fun ... If ones life is not fun one needs to change it. Simple and common sensical, really :-)
In summary - great product from this new vendor!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 19 April 2013, 18:41:57
Never smoked anything in my whole life. Tried the plastic bottle method - It hurts my lung. The smoke is really harsh and I keep coughing a lot during and after the try. Had to abandon the approach for now.

I find if it's really harsh and I'm quick to cough, it's likely burning up the spice or applying too much heat (not tried the plastic bottle method myself).

Built my own version of the machine for under $25.  Tried with steel wool. But the wool seems to burn by itself. I used a "0" grade wool. Not sure if I need to use a more coarse one or a mesh would be better choice.

I've built a few machines over the past month just to try the method out (and know a few people who aren't great operating an eclipse vape or 'meth' style pipe) and you want to get the thicker steel wool - the kind you can buy to scrub pots.
Big and thick curls like this [CLEARNET] - http://web.tradekorea.com/upload_file2/product/247/P00255247/cbe9caa5_99abef7c_e861_4b1c_868d_35ccd2b8ef72.jpg

Heat it up to oblivion with a torch lighter or better yet stick it on a stove element till it heats up and glows orange/red and afterwards the shiny chrome like appearance will be a flat dull looking grey metal.  Then stuff it into your machine - get it dense enough and use enough so the DMT can escape your heat source if needed (to avoid burning) but not get 'stuck' too deep you can't heat it easily. 

I find too much wool makes the tokes really hard to get, and the tokes are easy but it takes more hauls to get the full amount.

Too little wool and you get too much heat and spice has nowhere to go so it gets burnt and recrystallizes in the lungs quicker and makes the whole experience painful/coughy.

Get the right amount and you're golden though.. I used to kill my throat/lungs on meth style pipes applying too much heat trying to get the dose down quick but haven't had anything close happen since getting the ratio & density right :)
Smooth sailing with very little effort and heat involved.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 19 April 2013, 19:01:21
Really good description by brokentows. +1
Next time I will building the machine I will take step by step photos and will publish a how-to.
There seems to be an issue with explaining the finer points of its construction
Here is another idea - go to SR, find vendor dmtnexus and ask him to sell you one - he was the one that I got my first machine from and it is still working perfectly.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 19 April 2013, 19:24:40
Really good description by brokentows. +1
Next time I will building the machine I will take step by step photos and will publish a how-to.
There seems to be an issue with explaining the finer points of its construction

Cheers, I did indeed have some issues following the directions I found at first and got the finer steel wool which actually burns/ignites. Pretty sure this was responsible for an unpleasant experience that felt like someone was pressing a burning boot into my right upper chest while tripping when I normally feel a wave of energy radiating from my center/core. Wasn't a feeling I enjoyed or want anyone to have.. Assuming I inhaled some fine bits of metal or some kind of coating that wasn't 100% burned off.

I just picked up a GEAR glass on glass sherlock kind of pipe today that I'll be making into a machine and can try to document the process with pics. [CLEARNET] http://smokesessionsdepot.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/h/a/handpipe-bubbler-attachment_1_1.jpg
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 19 April 2013, 19:47:40
@rokentoes - Thanks for the detailed explanation. You mentioned to heat up the steel wool/mesh to glow orange/red. Is this to get rid of any paint or anything that might vaporize with DMT if not done earlier?
Precisely!  I've used a big torch I use for my honey oil rig and while it does a good job burning/heating most of the crap off - it can't  evenly heat the entire ball of wool at once and takes much more time to ensure all the bad stuff is gone.
Definitely recommend using a good stove top burner if you have one just to ensure everything is gone.

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 19 April 2013, 19:51:18
@rokentoes - Thanks for the detailed explanation. You mentioned to heat up the steel wool/mesh to glow orange/red. Is this to get rid of any paint or anything that might vaporize with DMT if not done earlier?

@incogmagnito - I think I got the tech right. I might need to get used to it. It could be my inexperience with smoking. I looked up dmtnexus  on SR and he is out of stock now and more over he ships from UK which is bit risky, I think.

Thanks, guys, again for all your help and encouragement. Really appreciate your time to help me walk on the DMT Road.


GSE

EDIT : Yes, +1 to both of you.

Thank you! Hitting you back!

Yes, burning it is to burn off metal cutting lubricants, some of which are pretty high temperature. Also, some mesh seems to have coating that tends to fall off when burned. I took the cheapest chore boy that said stainless steel on the can and it worked well. Do not use aluminium or copper - their melting point is a lot lower.

UPDATE: Almost forgot, heating metal up and cooling down slowly also makes it more pliable allowing you to press it into more even surface on the top.

Another small but important point for me was to figure out that I needed to press the mesh in the neck - I put mesh into the bottle neck, flip it upside down and press it thru the hole in the bottom using a pencil or a screw driver. Then you flip the bottle back and ever so slightly push the mesh in.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 19 April 2013, 20:04:09
Before I started this thread, I had no idea smoking DMT caused people so many issues.  I knew not everyone 'broke through' because I had a friend who didn't ... but I was lucky enough to miss out on any of these difficulties.  Keep at it though, GSE, it's worth it.

Unrelatedly, despite what I said about waiting weeks longer, I ended up in the headspace for a DMT trip last night and did indeed try my new product.  I had separated the pale yellow from the rougher extract, and put some of the pale stuff in my pipe (along with some salvia, of course).  I did not have what I consider a full breakthrough (for instance, there was no ego death), but I had long-lasting powerful (but abstract) visuals and an intense time dilation effect.

Conclusions: I knew this extract wouldn't be as potent as pure stuff, but it seems pretty strong nonetheless.  However, it had a very harsh and somewhat bitter taste, and so I think I will recrystalise to get a purer product.  This process will be lossless, as I can always throw the slag from the recryst in with the rough extract I use for pharma doses (in exchange for a slightly increased dose weight).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: kundalini on 20 April 2013, 01:01:13
@GoodShitExplorer... It took me 4 tries to finally break through and like GGA said, it's soooo worth it.

I was going to build myself The Machine but I'm somewhat always busy and so I ordered a Glass Sherlock Vapor Genie from their site (vaporgenie.com). I practiced how to use it with weed first cause there's a technique to it. First time I tried smoking dmt with my GVG the dmt melted through the screen and so the experience was ok at best. Then I got to thinking and realized that I should put a nice layer of weed in the chamber first and then sprinkle my DMT on top of the weed. This was to keep the DMT in the chamber and when it melted it would melt on the weed to continue vaporizing. You have to make sure the layer of weed is good enough to keep the DMT from falling or melting through.

The next time I smoked that same DMT from rogerpete... AMAZING!! I knew I was in for a ride when I saw how much vapor I was pulling in from using this technique. After the 2nd huge hit I got this really strong feeling and so I laid on my back and closed my eyes. Immediately I felt and heard this strange electric sound. It was pressing on my body and I still felt conscious. Then all of a sudden... I was gone. I saw the most beautiful visions of bright colors and true sacred geometry. I can only remember partially and I cant recall maybe 90% of what I saw. But I know I saw a lot and you''ll know to when it happens. Complete ego death!

Anyone that has a GVG or can afford one.. the method that I use kicks serious ass! And if you want high quality DMT, go with rogerpete!! You can feel the love he puts into his molecule.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 20 April 2013, 05:54:26

Just ordered some rogerpete DMT and mahakala changa. Never tried them before. But have been interested for quite some time even before joining SR.


Yesterday I received my RP order of 2g. After transferring it to a glass vial the final weight came to be around 2.32g. There was still some in the paper which I could not recover. Thanks to RP for the generosity.

The easy part is over. Now the hardest part is  to trip and break through.

Wish me good luck :)

GSE
         

Never smoked anything in my whole life. Tried the plastic bottle method - It hurts my lung. The smoke is really harsh and I keep coughing a lot during and after the try. Had to abandon the approach for now.

Built my own version of the machine for under $25.  Tried with steel wool. But the wool seems to burn by itself. I used a "0" grade wool. Not sure if I need to use a more coarse one or a mesh would be better choice.

Tried the aluminium foil with the machine. The smoke is lot smoother.

Overall tried about 6-8 times without any success. So, my wrestling with DMT continues....

Will update once I am successfully able to break through.

It seems DMT experience is lot more process dependent.

         
GSE

Do not use steel wool. It's very bad for you. Use the copper chore boy and burn it before using it until it is black.

@dondada, you frighten me. Why?
All the howtos always talk about steel.
How is it bad for you?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ro-Jaws on 22 April 2013, 00:42:16
@DMTisinME - do you have to clean your crystals before use?
I ask because I used to use a heat bath but I found the hot naptha picked up some of the NaOH/MHRB solution and my crystals ranged from yellow all the way to red/brown, generally needing a wash and/or recrystallisation to be properly clean.

This is entirely a judgement call. Once the original spice had dried I would judge it by color and texture and decide whether or not a recrystallization was worth it -- I rarely did any ammonia washes and went straight to recrystallization. However, I really only recrystallized with larger batches, and once I got it down it really wasn't necessary. However my DMT almost always came out very well without any post-cleansings. I never had any orange-red-brown looking stuff at all, but did had some yellower & waxier than desired a few times.

You should let the naphtha separate completely from the mucky solution to the top of the jar, then very carefully extract as much of the naphtha you can from the big jar to a smaller jar. Precision is needed here. If you get any sort of brown or anything that is not clear, you should get that out of your naphtha. When you pour the naphtha into the tray that you put in the freezer it should look almost identical to the naphtha you poured in originally, but maybe a little foggy, like salt water.

Thanks DMTisinME, I tried to keep the obvious much out of the solution but on heating the naptha I found it took on a light tinge of yellow as you noted. I think the main difference is that I would evaporate the naptha rather than recrystallise it hence the dirtier product. In the end I got around it by using cold naptha (rt) which picked up a lot less impurities. At that time I could get plenty of it for nothing so I had no issue using it like nobodies business!

With the heating did you find the emulsion took more or less time to separate out after shaking? Would you consider the turning of the container enough (as if using a separatory funnel) sufficient agitation to get the DMT into the naptha?

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 22 April 2013, 17:40:17
With the heating did you find the emulsion took more or less time to separate out after shaking? Would you consider the turning of the container enough (as if using a separatory funnel) sufficient agitation to get the DMT into the naptha?

The reason to use heat is to speed up the separation process -- the DMT loosens from it's hold in the MHRB much easier when heat is applied.

When you are talking about turning the container I am assuming that you are speaking of simply turning it instead of giving it a shake, no? In this case, I would recommend using the shake I described in the tek I posted. Give it a nice side to side & up & down shuffle type shake for a minute or two. It should be a good shake, but not TOO vigorous.

If you mean to suggest pouring the DMT containing naphtha out of the container by turning the whole container, I would advise against. You should be careful and steady with the container at this point and it is not nearly as efficient as using pipettes or a syringe. If you meant neither of these things, please reiterate what you meant.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: TheAnswer2Everything on 22 April 2013, 18:49:17

...Anyone that has a GVG or can afford one.. the method that I use kicks serious ass!

I agree with that statement 100%, the GVG hits are so smooth that sometimes you don't even realize you've just taken a massive hit  :D Although it did take some practice at first to get it just right, the GVG is worth every penny.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ro-Jaws on 24 April 2013, 11:26:49
I always found that heating the solution meant contamination of the naptha with unwanted things from the MHRB/NaOH mix but it sounds like you don't have such a problem.

I did indeed mean turning as an alternative method to shaking. Interesting to hear that 1-2 minutes is sufficient but again I suppose that is due to the heating.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: sometimesaware239 on 24 April 2013, 22:19:27
Hey, this is an account of my DMT experiences based on JoR's source A DMT. Good seller and a legit product.
dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=46574.msg1050081#msg1050081
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Joey Terrifying on 25 April 2013, 14:53:59

...Anyone that has a GVG or can afford one.. the method that I use kicks serious ass!

I agree with that statement 100%, the GVG hits are so smooth that sometimes you don't even realize you've just taken a massive hit  :D Although it did take some practice at first to get it just right, the GVG is worth every penny.

+1

the GVG has enhanced my enjoyment of DMT 10-fold
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: sometimesaware239 on 26 April 2013, 04:07:19
I managed to get very smooth hits in a bong (using water ofc) by having a mesh followed by a layer of ash, then the dmt, then another layer of ash. Finally I put some finely ground weed on top - this meant I could remove the lighter as soon as the bowl was lit (cooler temp - smoother hit) and just keep pulling to burn the whole bowl up. I'll also add that I did breathing exercises before taking the hit, in and out fully for a minute, then one last big exhale before immediately smoking. The hit will feel heavy because your respiratory system is full of smoke, but like everyone says - you need to hold the smoke in and exhale as late as possible before you leave reality.

This is how I smoked the second time and it was a much stronger experience than the first. After reading up I think this method will protect the dmt from falling through/melting, while heating it thoroughly enough to explore some of its most intense effects. I used weed so I could chill with some music after the event, I tripped alone in a darkly lit room since this is how I've been introduced to psychedelics but you must only do what you are comfortable with.

Not sure if I'm going to post a trip report or not yet, I dunno if dumping trip reports for the same product is adding to the usefulness of the thread.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: UANDiR1 on 26 April 2013, 04:18:05
I managed to get very smooth hits in a bong (using water ofc) by having a mesh followed by a layer of ash, then the dmt, then another layer of ash. Finally I put some finely ground weed on top - this meant I could remove the lighter as soon as the bowl was lit (cooler temp - smoother hit) and just keep pulling to burn the whole bowl up. I'll also add that I did breathing exercises before taking the hit, in and out fully for a minute, then one last big exhale before immediately smoking. The hit will feel heavy because your respiratory system is full of smoke, but like everyone says - you need to hold the smoke in and exhale as late as possible before you leave reality.

This is how I smoked the second time and it was a much stronger experience than the first. After reading up I think this method will protect the dmt from falling through/melting, while heating it thoroughly enough to explore some of its most intense effects. I used weed so I could chill with some music after the event, I tripped alone in a darkly lit room since this is how I've been introduced to psychedelics but you must only do what you are comfortable with.

Not sure if I'm going to post a trip report or not yet, I dunno if dumping trip reports for the same product is adding to the usefulness of the thread.

Trip reports ALWAYS welcomed. :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 26 April 2013, 07:57:04
Trip reports ALWAYS welcomed. :)

There is in fact a thread dedicated to trip reports and the psychedelic experience.  You may post trip reports here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=130501.msg890948#msg890948

That said, please feel free to pursue any DMT-related discussion here. The Avenger thread needs to be kept 'on topic', because there are so many participants ... but we're a small community here, and I welcome all discussion which is in any way DMT-related.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 26 April 2013, 15:55:53
Being inexperienced with inhalation of vaporized drugs I investigated injection of DMT as making properly filtered injectables is pretty easy for me.  I prefer intramuscular injection but "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" has information that suggests that DMT just doesn't work well that way.  IV would work but I should just pick a device from the OP and be done with it.

Now I just need to pick which device I want to use.  I think somebody in this thread mentioned that would take lots of pics next time they make the machine.  If I can get a better sense of the entire process from the pics then I'll probably go with that.  Apparently I prefer books with pictures.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 27 April 2013, 00:51:49
Being inexperienced with inhalation of vaporized drugs I investigated injection of DMT as making properly filtered injectables is pretty easy for me.  I prefer intramuscular injection but "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" has information that suggests that DMT just doesn't work well that way.  IV would work but I should just pick a device from the OP and be done with it.

Now I just need to pick which device I want to use.  I think somebody in this thread mentioned that would take lots of pics next time they make the machine.  If I can get a better sense of the entire process from the pics then I'll probably go with that.  Apparently I prefer books with pictures.

It was me - still did not get to doing it - sorry.
It pressing try erowid and DMT-nexus for howtos.
I would be happy to help if any questions.
If money is not an issue then go for GVG.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: kundalini on 27 April 2013, 03:40:57
Being inexperienced with inhalation of vaporized drugs I investigated injection of DMT as making properly filtered injectables is pretty easy for me.  I prefer intramuscular injection but "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" has information that suggests that DMT just doesn't work well that way.  IV would work but I should just pick a device from the OP and be done with it.

Now I just need to pick which device I want to use.  I think somebody in this thread mentioned that would take lots of pics next time they make the machine.  If I can get a better sense of the entire process from the pics then I'll probably go with that.  Apparently I prefer books with pictures.

Hey slirp ... like incogmagnito said if money is not an issue, get the GVG. It is awesome and it's not hard to use. You will have to practice using weed at first just to get the hang of it. You'll know when you have it down and when you do just use the method that I wrote about earlier and you are sure to blast off!! Another great reason to buy the GVG is that it's multifunctional. It can be used to smoke weed, DMT, or anything else that vaporizes and affects the consciousness for the better ;)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 27 April 2013, 04:31:55
Another great reason to buy the GVG is that it's multifunctional. It can be used to smoke weed, DMT, or anything else that vaporizes and affects the consciousness for the better ;)

This is true of all the methods in the OP other than the Machine (albeit glass oil pipes are not great for cannabis buds, but they do vape hash very well).  I'm not knocking the GVG, but this benefit is hardly particular to it.

@Slirp: There are many pictures of various people's Machines on dmt-nexus.  After first hearing about it, the descriptions and instructions did not make sense to me until I saw some pics ... but it's a very simple device.  Bear in mind, it may not be ideal for vaping anything that won't vapourise completely.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 27 April 2013, 05:17:01
Being inexperienced with inhalation of vaporized drugs I investigated injection of DMT as making properly filtered injectables is pretty easy for me.  I prefer intramuscular injection but "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" has information that suggests that DMT just doesn't work well that way.  IV would work but I should just pick a device from the OP and be done with it.

Now I just need to pick which device I want to use.  I think somebody in this thread mentioned that would take lots of pics next time they make the machine.  If I can get a better sense of the entire process from the pics then I'll probably go with that.  Apparently I prefer books with pictures.

It was me - still did not get to doing it - sorry.
It pressing try erowid and DMT-nexus for howtos.
I would be happy to help if any questions.
If money is not an issue then go for GVG.

oh I'm in no rush so no problem.

I can't say I have unlimited funds but is the GVG just more convenient or is it also more practical for a beginner?  It seems a little pricey at first but then when I consider how much the drugs cost it really isn't that bad.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 27 April 2013, 07:47:06
@slirp, there are different views on the best way to vape DMT here, as you would have gathered :-)
All of us have experimented with different methods and have settled on their particular method because it works for them.
My experience with DMT started with changa and a normal weed pipe.
I did not like very much longer lasting effects of harmalines in the mixture, but also a fact that next time I was smoking weed from it there was some changa smell and some very light effect from it, so I have decided to get a dedicated pipe for it and started my search. I have also got some pure DMT and have not tried changa since.
With the pipe my next stop was an oil pipe, that @GGA has perfected so well. My experience was not as fortunate - I ended up chasing melting DMT up the sides of a glass ball with some good results, but I was not satisfied to the full. This is where I stumbled across the machine and was about to build one when one vendor on BMR offered me to sell one to me. I took him up on that. His name is dmtnexus - you can message him on SR or BMR. May be he will sell one to you too. It was thrown in for me since I bought 500mg of his DMT. He ships from the UK.
With the machine my fortunes change and I can manage to get to breakthroughs reliably.
Once you've seen one it is very easy to build one - see my posts few pages back.
I have built a couple since then and now have all the parts for the third, but no request to do so I am lazy :-)
Since machine works for me I have never shelled out for GVG, but people who have swear by it.
If you look at GVG construction you would notice that in essence the machine is crudely copying its functioning, but not nearly as elegant and does require a bit more care with the lighter not to burn your space. GVG also needs slight modification for DMT - either insertion of up to 10 screens or replacement of those with chore boy as the one in the machine :-) in all fairness, I want a GVG - who would not want to look like Sherlock Holmes before diving into under- ... Correction ... Upper-world?
Best of luck in your explorations, brother deemster!
Take care!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 01 May 2013, 23:09:27
This thread has been dead for too long.  Allow me to post an update on my DMT extraction:

To date, I have done 5 pulls: 3 naphtha only, 1 heptane only, and 1 with a naphtha/heptane mixture.  I also refined a portion of my extract (heptane recryst).  I used the pale extract in the recryst, hoping for something pure white at the end.  In fact, I noticed very little colour change ... the upper crystals were one shade lighter and the lower one shade darker than what I'd started with.  However, I noticed a significant change in texture: the refined crystals were much lighter, softer, and fluffier than before.  They also had considerably less odour, which I hope means that I've done away with the harsh taste the earlier extract had.

Not counting a small amount of extract which still needs to be washed and dried, I have 2.5g of the refined pale crystal and 10.7g of rough yellow extract.  I will do one more naphtha/heptane pull this weekend, before evaporating off the solvent.  I received a pint order of xylene today, and after the 6th pull is done, I will use it to try for some jungle spice.

I'll update one last time after all extracting is finished and I've tried out my first home-made pharma kit.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 02 May 2013, 01:08:20
Sounds like it's coming through, gga. I'm excited to hear about how the jungle spice goes, as well as the pharma trip.

Good luck with it all, brother.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 02 May 2013, 06:18:37
@GGA, next thing we know you will industrialise this and will become our vendor of choice :-)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 02 May 2013, 06:22:43
@GGA, next thing we know you will industrialise this and will become our vendor of choice :-)

LOL.  Doubtful ... but I do expect to have ~50 pharma kits to spare.  I plan to sell them off, but not on SR (of course, I only mention it to get people's hopes up and then dash them -_o).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 02 May 2013, 06:48:31
@GGA, next thing we know you will industrialise this and will become our vendor of choice :-)

LOL.  Doubtful ... but I do expect to have ~50 pharma kits to spare.  I plan to sell them off, but not on SR (of course, I only mention it to get people's hopes up and then dash them -_o).

Perfect example of a post that raises our hopes up ... And then squashes them!
What is going to be your pharma kit? 350mg harmaline and 100mg DMT, gelcapped?
If yes, I think these might fly ... Or not ;-)
Title: Re: Avengers of DMT?
Post by: weed4me6969 on 02 May 2013, 07:07:06
Snorting DMT isn't a very pleasant experience, at least it hasn't been for me. A general review thread about DMT is a good thing but I don't feel like it needs an avengers group like the LSD one. LSD is way more subject to scams because of all the RC's people lay on blotter and pass off as the real deal. Also I feel like breaking through on DMT has a lot of factors other than quality of product and route of ingestion.

If the idea does take off I'd be happy to contribute in whatever way I can. I have a lot of experience with DMT (hundreds of trips) and use a volcano vape these days which is pretty consistent for dosing.

I have wanted to use my extreme q 4.0... do you think it would work?  and also do you guys know how to make freebase DMT more pure?  extraction techniques??
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 02 May 2013, 07:12:55
@GGA, next thing we know you will industrialise this and will become our vendor of choice :-)

LOL.  Doubtful ... but I do expect to have ~50 pharma kits to spare.  I plan to sell them off, but not on SR (of course, I only mention it to get people's hopes up and then dash them -_o).

Perfect example of a post that raises our hopes up ... And then squashes them!
What is going to be your pharma kit? 350mg harmaline and 100mg DMT, gelcapped?
If yes, I think these might fly ... Or not ;-)

A size 1 gel cap perfectly fits 250mg of harmala extract, loosely packed.  My projected number of 45-55 extra trip kits is based on an estimated dose of 250mg harmala extract and 200mg rough MHRB extract (and the fact that I want to keep 7-9 for myself).  I will try this dosage before making up kits en masse.

do you guys know how to make freebase DMT more pure?  extraction techniques??

DMTisinME wrote a brief extraction tek on p. 15 of this thread (also, there's a 'Norman tek' which seems quite popular on erowid).  To purify your extract, you recrystalise (see Norman tek or dmt-nexus for details).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 03 May 2013, 07:15:55
Been a minute since I have been able to join in but I have a most excellently fresh 30min old trip report!
O my lord where do i begin.
61mg of Moon Unit spice vaporized in the machine (still haven't built "the key" vaporizer yet. Coming soon)
On the first hit my lighter bailed mid-hit. Not sure why but I had put the trusty bic in my front pocket. quickly made the switch keeping the flame just of the tip of the machine and turning it slowly. I started seeing goofy dogs in my periphery as if they were telling me "hey you put down the pipe we are lifting off". I opened my mouth and rested on the "no Breath" and BAM the room was full of machine elves. A circus tent and playground assembled it self from particles in the air like building blocks quickly assembling themselves. A very real looking small blonde boy and brown haired girl inside looking for kids in the room. That collapsed and rebuilt itself into a multitude of machine like beings that shape-shifted and morphed into other machine-like creatures. They seemed to regard me with a perhaps hostile interest. Scanning me.
     I felt the cicada like buzz of the entities I have never seen but i can feel and hear on many trips out. One lands on my heart and another on sternum. They are there to keep me safe, I know this by language-less telepathy like a signal trasmitted into my brain. I can feel the machines scanning me. The blocks morph and I can see my tv on the dresser it sits on within blocks of fractals. The energy being in charge has inhabited it like a large robot. I can feel it scanning me, electronic needle pricks on my neck as it probes me. I am still. The entities receding into fractal building blocks which reassemble my living room turn by turn like a million rubics cubes collapsing on themselves. I tell my heart friends I love them and try to remember what just happened. Wow
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 03 May 2013, 15:48:54
+1, princeblack.  I approve.  It's a pretty far cry from any of my DMT experiences, but I really enjoyed reading your description.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 03 May 2013, 17:07:47
+1, princeblack.  I approve.  It's a pretty far cry from any of my DMT experiences, but I really enjoyed reading your description.

Exactly what I was thinking. The experience is so subjective, but can be amazingly universal at times as well.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 04 May 2013, 08:26:05
+1, princeblack.  I approve.  It's a pretty far cry from any of my DMT experiences, but I really enjoyed reading your description.

Yeah it was way different for me too. I have seen the rubics fractals once before but this was way farther out. It was all open eye visuals in the room. The way it became a playground that morphed into a hostile robot lab. Watching to much Dr. Who maybe ;)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: canuckboy on 05 May 2013, 13:44:52
PimpIt  the vendor is loosing it.

I ordered DMT four weeks ago with express shipping.  Nothing but promises that it will come.
I gave more time three weeks in a row.  Until I suggested a refund and he gave me 60% back.

Dunno, I just lost some money to an idiot.
His feedback is full, thats why I bought .  Ass.

Until he mans up and chats with me at least once, I'm saying he ripped me or at least lied, or runs a shitty business and has no skill.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 05 May 2013, 23:10:23
PimpIt  the vendor is loosing it.

I ordered DMT four weeks ago with express shipping.  Nothing but promises that it will come.
I gave more time three weeks in a row.  Until I suggested a refund and he gave me 60% back.

Dunno, I just lost some money to an idiot.
His feedback is full, thats why I bought .  Ass.

Until he mans up and chats with me at least once, I'm saying he ripped me or at least lied, or runs a shitty business and has no skill.

He was selling Asylum's DMT when I ordered from him 3 months ago..  Expect it to be coming from Canada by chance? It won't be..

He says on his profile he makes it himself now.. but when I purchased the listing said he found a source outside SR because all DMT on SR was horrible quality..

I expected clear/white DMT and instead got yellow/pale - It looks exactly like Asylum's listings.. So I ordered some from Asylum as it was cheaper.

Low and behold the same envelope from same location shows up, different vendor. 

Little bit pissed off once I realized what was going on, and that pimpit had taken my address and then shared it to another vendor/3rd party..

Asylum had no idea this was going on.. But business is business for him no matter where it comes from.. 

I came to SR not to be lied to about product.. Unless pimpit is actually making DMT now.. he's still lying about it's origins... Lie once, who knows what else is a lie..
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 05 May 2013, 23:20:24
PimpIt  the vendor is loosing it.

I ordered DMT four weeks ago with express shipping.  Nothing but promises that it will come.
I gave more time three weeks in a row.  Until I suggested a refund and he gave me 60% back.

Dunno, I just lost some money to an idiot.
His feedback is full, thats why I bought .  Ass.

Until he mans up and chats with me at least once, I'm saying he ripped me or at least lied, or runs a shitty business and has no skill.

He was selling Asylum's DMT when I ordered from him 3 months ago..  Expect it to be coming from Canada by chance? It won't be..

He says on his profile he makes it himself now.. but when I purchased the listing said he found a source outside SR because all DMT on SR was horrible quality..

I expected clear/white DMT and instead got yellow/pale - It looks exactly like Asylum's listings.. So I ordered some from Asylum as it was cheaper.

Low and behold the same envelope from same location shows up, different vendor. 

Little bit pissed off once I realized what was going on, and that pimpit had taken my address and then shared it to another vendor/3rd party..

Asylum had no idea this was going on.. But business is business for him no matter where it comes from.. 

I came to SR not to be lied to about product.. Unless pimpit is actually making DMT now.. he's still lying about it's origins... Lie once, who knows what else is a lie..

For a vendor to share your address isn't right.  Please report pimpit.  And if it is coming from a different country then report that as well.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 05 May 2013, 23:34:36
Tried Asylum's changa last night too..

100mg =  ;D

took 100mg in 1 hit from a small water bong and hold it in while I layed down on the couch with eyes open watching the wall (stones/bricks)

Everything starts going into like sacred geometry lines/mirrors of itself and its opening and closing like a laptop lid sort of, everytime I blink..
too much to handle eyes open, so i close em..

Now I forgot I'm holding in smoke still, forget wtf happened, that I smoked, that I was on the couch, in a room, etc.. and exhale it all because I can't understand why I'm not breathing anymore.

Then just felt like I was in another world.. no body, no nothing but my eyes seeing or existing.. felt like they were open but I had them totally closed and i was just experiencing it all without my body.

Once i figured out what I did, where I was, etc.. I got a sense of joy/wasn't scared/confused anymore and it was like the entity(s?) flashed their tail lights like a trucker and went 'yup, you got it!' with this cool like ripple of bluish light beams/particles that came down from the center of the top of my head and kinda rippled outwards.. Was most definitely an outside force or influence that was very happy or excited when I put 2 + 2 together and was ready to take on info.

Almost brought a tear to my eye how happy it actually made me that I was interacting with something completely not made up by my brain.. that I was really experiencing, without a doubt some outside influence - and it was happy with something I did.

Expecting some of his dark orange "Jungle Spice" wax DMT next (which is used in his changa) - can't wait :)


@slirp - I left appropriate feedback, but just reported now.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: kundalini on 06 May 2013, 00:51:34
Hi everyone :)

It's been a while since I've smoked dmt. There's one noticeable difference from when I was still a dmt virgin and now.... a strong inclination to meditate! For some reason, it feels like I should meditate somewhat regularly if I'm to continue to visit the dmt space. Last time I smoked I hadn't meditated at all and once the session was over I felt like I had cheated not only myself but the dmt space as well.

For this reason now I will meditate and synchronize my meditations with dmt trips and hopefully some good things happen.

I've always wanted to be somewhat enlightened but with a lingering flaw... sort of like Jesus with a love for weed, MDMA, and any other positive and enjoyable drug :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 06 May 2013, 02:01:08
PimpIt  the vendor is loosing it.

He says 50% on his vendor page, so 60% is pretty good given the situation.  Of course that doesn't change that the situation is a shitty one.

This is the second complaint about him recently, and unfortunately, I feel I have to remove him from the 'good' list.  I vouched for him despite the transit time and the unexpected postmark because the DMT I received was quite good, it came very overweight, and my pm's received prompt and professional replies.  Now that there are multiple complaints about him, I'm thinking my good experience may have been a fluke.

Specifically:
(1) His vendor page says he ships from Canada, though in fact the product comes from Czech Rep
(2) Although he said his DMT source was off-SR, brokentoes claims the product and packaging are identical to Asylum's
(3) He claimed that a lot of DMT on SR is of poor quality, whereas this thread is a testament to the easy availability of good DMT on SR
(4) He uses this claim to justify his excessively high prices
(5) The photo on his listing does not match the actual product
All of these things have earned him a spot on the 'bad' list for now.  I am not claiming he is scamming, but the dishonesty is a bad sign I can't ignore anymore.

For some reason, it feels like I should meditate somewhat regularly if I'm to continue to visit the dmt space.

I've always wanted to be somewhat enlightened but with a lingering flaw... sort of like Jesus with a love for weed, MDMA, and any other positive and enjoyable drug :)

LOL.  I don't think it's possible to see yourself as 'flawed' and be 'somewhat enlightened' at the same time.  Anyway, I' pretty sure Jesus + love for weed = Jesus. -_o

Meditation is definitely the correct impulse.  I think you'll find meditation practices will allow you to go further with less DMT (or other drugs).  I know I have.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Snooze on 06 May 2013, 02:09:25
I never had a break through on dmt. i got to stage 1, if thats what its called, but never had a break through were i saw the elves. i used an ubie and glass meth pipe i bought for wax.  had regular and freebase.
i want to see the elves! but that shit is too expensive to keep trying!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 06 May 2013, 04:34:39
I never had a break through on dmt. i got to stage 1, if thats what its called, but never had a break through were i saw the elves. i used an ubie and glass meth pipe i bought for wax.  had regular and freebase.
i want to see the elves! but that shit is too expensive to keep trying!

'Breakthrough' doesn't necessarily mean seeing 'elves'.  I suggest silencing your mind for the trip (practise this sober first) and sensory deprivation (e.g., a dark, quiet room) to achieve breakthrough.

I actually find it to be the cheapest available psychedelic: let's suppose you pay $150 for a gram.  Even if you dose high at say 50mg each time, that gram is 20 trips---i.e., $7.50 for a strong psychedelic trip.  It's not the same as a 16-hour acid trip, but the time compression allows it to be a much longer trip than you might expect ... with a full ego death every time.  Whether or not it's worth the money depends on why you use psychedelics, but if 'mind expansion' is a goal, money should be no object since this drug takes you where no other will.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 06 May 2013, 05:22:08
I never had a break through on dmt. i got to stage 1, if thats what its called, but never had a break through were i saw the elves. i used an ubie and glass meth pipe i bought for wax.  had regular and freebase.
i want to see the elves! but that shit is too expensive to keep trying!

I got two words for that last statement. MOON UNIT. Great shit, best price. Strict terms of who gets to buy so read up act right and you'll be glad you sourced there. Ditch the meth pipe. Several great methods are in the OP and look up the KEY on the nexus. If it tastes like shit plastic you burned and deactivated it so back the flame off. vaporized is earthy and floral.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 06 May 2013, 07:25:52
Guys what do you think about sensory deprivation tank (or floating tank) and dmt? I`d love to try this combination. ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 06 May 2013, 07:30:46
@GGA, good point on dosages and on PimpIt. I have never tried this vendor, but repetitive feedback makes me concerned!

@princeblack - good report! +1, indeed!

@Snooze, if money is of concern build the machine - some info in older posts here or see howtos on dmtnexus!

@blazingsatva, I was talking about exactly this the other day - I would love to hear any reports on how it goes!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 06 May 2013, 10:25:55
Guys what do you think about sensory deprivation tank (or floating tank) and dmt? I`d love to try this combination. ;D

I nearly always push off in a dark room with music in my ears.  You can lose the music, and listen to the silence ... I like this sometimes, but I don't think you're going to get much more out of going to a further extreme of sensory deprivation.  I mean: if you HAVE a sense dep tank, go for it.  You could meditate in it for a few hours after the trip (or, you know, just go in for a few hours with no DMT).  The point is sense dep tanks are for prolonged sessions, and the timescale of a DMT trip doesn't allow for that.  Dark room and minimal sound is about as much (or little) as you need with DMT, imo.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: RaFaeL5 on 06 May 2013, 10:57:14
Hi,

I don't understand how come "Asylum" is not listed in the OP.
The guy has a wonderfull shipping method (stealth = 110%).
He's quick and friendly.
His changa is "wooohhoooo" & I've never seen more pure DMT than his!

I'm willing to vouch for him if noone else can confirm what I just wrote here - but he DEFINITELY deserves to be quoted in the OP!!!
(my last order from him was about 2 months ago, maybe even a bit more - I can't check it right now since the main site is down for me)

Cheers to all the Deemsters!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: atlas on 06 May 2013, 11:14:10
True, I've bought DMT and Changa several times from Asylum and his products + service have always been top notch !
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 06 May 2013, 12:56:16
I don't understand how come "Asylum" is not listed in the OP.

Oversight on my part.  Fixing it now.

Edit: I did try some DMT which came to me from Czech Rep from my order with pimpit ... brokentoes says this is Asylum's product, and so I added myself to the 'voucher' list with a (?) because I haven't personally verified that this is indeed Asylum's DMT.  This puts Asylum at #3 on our list.  Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: RaFaeL5 on 06 May 2013, 15:30:02
I don't understand how come "Asylum" is not listed in the OP.

Oversight on my part.  Fixing it now.

Edit: I did try some DMT which came to me from Czech Rep from my order with pimpit ... brokentoes says this is Asylum's product, and so I added myself to the 'voucher' list with a (?) because I haven't personally verified that this is indeed Asylum's DMT.  This puts Asylum at #3 on our list.  Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Very quickly adjusted!
Nicely done!

Way to go... weeha!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 06 May 2013, 16:50:35
I have issues with anxiety from drugs unless I have MDMA or MDA in my system.  Any thoughts on inhaling DMT after I'm already rolling on MDMA?

In the case of LSD I hear that taking more LSD will likely solve the anxiety problem rather than making it worse.  If true then maybe that same applies to DMT?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 06 May 2013, 17:12:08
I have issues with anxiety from drugs unless I have MDMA or MDA in my system.  Any thoughts on inhaling DMT after I'm already rolling on MDMA?

In the case of LSD I hear that taking more LSD will likely solve the anxiety problem rather than making it worse.  If true then maybe that same applies to DMT?

On DMT nexus there is a list of know drug combo interactions and warnings about MDMA. Harm reduction is a must. Serotonin syndrome could occur. people have done it and survived but for me I avoid all drugs and combos that can kill you. Pre-flight anxiety is just part of the deal. I always have it but if i do more than 1 session in a night it is less on the subsequent flights. 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 06 May 2013, 18:07:59
Thanks I'll check that out.  I hadn't considered serotonin syndrome.

Just of mention I'm more concerned about anxiety after the flight has already taken off.   If there's a risk in combining with MDMA then I just won't do that.  It was just a thought but I wasn't sure which is why I asked.  :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 06 May 2013, 18:53:10
Serotonin syndrome could occur.

The cautions about serotonin syndrome on dmt-nexus seem to all be concerned with mixing things with MAOIs, not DMT. (definitely DO NOT take MDMA/MDA with an MAOI).  That said, I routinely get tremours on the come-down from high-dose (20mg +) DMT trips.  This is listed as an early symptom of serotonin syndrome, but I always figured that it was unrelated.  Does anyone else get this?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 06 May 2013, 19:56:04
hello dmt lovers .....

i am here seeking ur advice .... i wana buy changa and so far tow vendors caught my attention Asylum and subtickle..... whom do u recommend ?? any other vendor u recommend ?? who has the best most potent changa with super stealth ??

peace
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 06 May 2013, 20:54:58
@waiataaroha, howdy? nice name ... not very easy to spell though :)
may I ask you why are going for changa and not a freebase?
I hope I am not going to rattle any feathers here by saying that I by far prefer freebase to changa. Changa, depending on the vendor, does have MAOI, which kinda requires some serious attitude + it does (at least in my case) last heck of a lot longer than DMT itself and I would describe its effects as "dimming", which is kinda opposite of why I take DMT.

@GGA, I do get tremors on come down too, but I always attributed them to sense of being cold rather than serotonin issues. Did I miss something in my research, as I have never heard of serotonin syndrome linked to pure DMT consumption?

@slirp, I always have anxiety before launch, but most often than not the flight so far removed from "I" and "my body" that my pre-flight state does not affect much my trip. the only thing I would mention is that once I took it after a fairly innocent quantity of alcohol and it was a mistake - do not mix these two!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 06 May 2013, 21:29:58
hello dmt lovers .....

i am here seeking ur advice .... i wana buy changa and so far tow vendors caught my attention Asylum and subtickle..... whom do u recommend ?? any other vendor u recommend ?? who has the best most potent changa with super stealth ??

peace

I've tried mahakala's changa - which smells amazingly fruity/delicious and is very a pleasant mix to smoke, and just recently tried Asylum's changa mix which contains both white DMT and his Jungle Spice (orange waxy DMT).

Asylum's changa smells like something special the moment you get a whiff -  it's a dank earthy feel, which I'm guessing is the addition of his Jungle Spice to the mix.

I've re-ordered from mahakala, and will be re-ordering from Asylum - can't comment on subtickle's changa though.

The stealth from both Asylum and mahakala is impressive (one of the reasons I'm a return customer is feeling safe the shipping isn't sketchy)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 07 May 2013, 00:54:35

The cautions about serotonin syndrome on dmt-nexus seem to all be concerned with mixing things with MAOIs, not DMT. (definitely DO NOT take MDMA/MDA with an MAOI).  That said, I routinely get tremours on the come-down from high-dose (20mg +) DMT trips.  This is listed as an early symptom of serotonin syndrome, but I always figured that it was unrelated.  Does anyone else get this?

Get it about every other experience. It's definitely not related to serotonin. I feel like it's just a natural response to the departure of such an intense sensation.

@slirp: I'm with gga here, DMT won't mix badly with MDMA, but do not mix an MAOI with it, or many other drugs (or foods!) for that matter.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 07 May 2013, 04:41:36
@incogmgnito & DMTisinME: No, I didn't really think it was serotonin-related, since I also have not heard of this in relation to DMT.  I thought it was worth asking though, because occasionally they can be rather violent, and yet I hadn't heard anyone else mention them.

@waiataaroha: We have not been reviewing changa vendors so far.  Subtickle pm'd me asking whether his changa listing qualified for our list in the OP.  I told him we'd deal with that issue if and when someone reviewed his product here (rather than just adding him to the 'unconfirmed' list).  I asked once before, but I'm open to input on whether we want to add changa-only vendors to the list in the OP.

You can check in the OP: mahakala and Asylum are both well-reviewed freebase vendors.  There have been multiple positive mentions of mahakala's changa, and of course, brokentoes is vouching for Asylum's.  No word to date on Subtickle's changa, but since he is a trusted source for LSD, I would be inclined to trust his other goods.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 07 May 2013, 05:09:35
Just my opinion, but I think at least one known-person in this thread should vouch for a vendor's changa before it gets added to the op.  People will come to the OP not just for good vendors but good product too.

I'm not the op though so just giving my perspective on what I would like when deciding who I'll buy from.

If you add changa vendors then it would be nice if you could add a description/explanation of changa to the OP, or at least a link to some please that gives that.  This changa seems popular elsewhere but the hard-core DMT users in this thread prefer straight free-base as far as I can tell so that's my plan.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: SexyWax on 07 May 2013, 05:18:16
I agree with many others about KidCasio
KidCasio's DMT was the best DMT ive ever had in my life. I so wish he would come back
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 07 May 2013, 08:30:56
@Inco .... hey .... my name is in maori language it means love song ;-)..... i have done freebase many times and i live it and i want a more grounded longer experience that is why i want changa .... i wish aya caps were available.... dmt is just something that is beyond any substance i have ever tried....

@brokennotes.... thank you fr the info .... yes stealth is very very important ..... between asylum and mahakala whose changa is more pitent?? how ling did it last and what method did u use to smoke it ?? i am planing to use a hokkha??

thanx guys fr sharing
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Stonedstupor on 07 May 2013, 08:44:37
could you smoke DMT on your generic oil rig for smoking THC concentrates? essentially freebasing the shit? maybe jus drop a little crystal on your nail while your inhaling and cough a little bit and enjoy the journey of your life? ive never tried DMT but after my life changing experience with some dank mushrooms i think DMT would be fucking fun.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 07 May 2013, 13:12:45
could you smoke DMT on your generic oil rig for smoking THC concentrates? essentially freebasing the shit? maybe jus drop a little crystal on your nail while your inhaling and cough a little bit and enjoy the journey of your life? ive never tried DMT but after my life changing experience with some dank mushrooms i think DMT would be fucking fun.

Well Stonedstupor, i am pretty sure dropping DMT on the nail would work just fine, however i've seen those nails getting RED HOT, and DMT burns/vaporizes at a lower temperature then weed.

So you might get some wasted/overburned DMT.  But i have seen idiots cap bowls cuz they tell me that's their best way LMAO.  Then light it up with a bic touching flame to DMT...it makes me die a little inside each time =P

As for trying DMT...

DMT is my favorite of the trinity.  Mushrooms make me sick.  Acid lasts way too long.  and DMT is JUUUUUUUUUST  right. 

It's probably the most powerful trip if you smoke it, and you are there and back again before you can freak out too much.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 07 May 2013, 16:46:47
Wanted to share a tiny bit about my experience with mahakala's changa last night, since I had semi-reviewed Asylum's mix a few posts earlier.

Did 70mg and I had ear plugs in, certain to try and hear something while I'm gone.. however the only thing I ended up hearing was my laughter lol..

It felt like the muscles in my face/body were being manipulated - flexed, and just whatnot.. like something demonstrating to me me how much of a 'vessel' my body is.. just a shell which I inhabit.

Its like "look what I can make you do.. and this, and this" and it's like whatever entity I've contacted is playing my body like a symphony - all these muscles are contracting and moving in unison, like some sort of pattern - but made from the muscles of my face.

Well this time I could barely breath from laughing so much at how unbelievable this all felt and that it was even possible.. It was like someone else had gained control over my facial muscles.. and my face was like FORCED into a huuuuge perma-grin and like my eyelids were flickering and cheeck muscles twitching in unison..

I was even getting weird 'touches' on the bottoms of my feet (felt like someone poked the bottom of my foot).. and just like really CRAZY sensations all over my body.

I never quite get the same effects from just freebase DMT..  - never felt anything like it in my life - whole face feels like it's being pulled with strings on every muscle like a puppeteer.. I swear it was trying to force me to smile/laugh so much, but at the same time force tears out - just to show me it's power.

;)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: musichighlife on 07 May 2013, 20:09:21
Figured this was the place to come and ask, and apologies if this had been addressed before in the thread, but I'm gearing up to place my first order of DMT on the road and I'm trying to decide between DRshrooms listing of 500mg mixed white/yellow dmt and the new vendor Fractalbliss 500mg listing of white DMT. DRshrooms is a bit cheaper but I'd be ordering internationally and Fractalbliss would be a domestic vendor. But my real question is what do you guys recommend as it pertains to quality? I know white DMT is usually pure but I've read other places that the alkaloids that remain in tan/yellow DMT potentiates the experience....so what do you guys think ? Also any other recommendations to vendors or listings would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!  8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 07 May 2013, 20:34:52
I know white DMT is usually pure but I've read other places that the alkaloids that remain in tan/yellow DMT potentiates the experience....so what do you guys think ?

This depends on the DMT source.  According to his vendor page, rogerpete's synth DMT is ~2% NMT.  Someone earlier mentioned that NMT is also present in acacia-extracted DMT.  On the other hand, the residuals that yellow MHRB-extracted DMT (which is the most common) are generally considered to be inert, and can also make the smoking much harsher.

Also any other recommendations to vendors or listings would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!  8)

See the OP.  DRshrooms is well vouched-for, but we've yet to hear anything about Fractalbliss.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: musichighlife on 07 May 2013, 20:51:54
I know white DMT is usually pure but I've read other places that the alkaloids that remain in tan/yellow DMT potentiates the experience....so what do you guys think ?

This depends on the DMT source.  According to his vendor page, rogerpete's synth DMT is ~2% NMT.  Someone earlier mentioned that NMT is also present in acacia-extracted DMT.  On the other hand, the residuals that yellow MHRB-extracted DMT (which is the most common) are generally considered to be inert, and can also make the smoking much harsher.

Also any other recommendations to vendors or listings would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!  8)

See the OP.  DRshrooms is well vouched-for, but we've yet to hear anything about Fractalbliss.

Thanks for the info. I have heard the yellow is a harsher smoke. Checking through the OP's vendor pages now, much love. If I decide to go with Fractalbliss I'll update here as to validity and quality.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 07 May 2013, 20:57:07
It looks like he either ran out or took his listing down, but for US freebase users that meet the requirements is there any reason to order from anyone other than Moon Unit?  His price is so much better than most of the US domestic competition that I've been planning to order from him.

Earlier in this thread I remember reading that DMT prices have gone up, but it sounds like people are still buying.

I'm just wondering if I'm missing something.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: aoeniacqc on 07 May 2013, 21:15:26
I had one no-show and one outright scammer, both out of the Netherlands, which brought my refund rate to 6%.  Feels so silly being unable to buy from Moon Unit when I have 0% refund on $2500+ domestic.

Looks like DRshrooms is my next best bet?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: anonman88 on 07 May 2013, 22:30:21
just another person to vouch for moon unit's stuff, everyone i have smoked it with has been able to blast off. its quite amazing :) i smoked some sunday night, while i was still tripping  a bit from a 5 strip i eat of some WoW. it was wonderful, i was frolicking with these god-like creatures and they took my brain/consciousness out of my head, and played with it, massaging it, and finally placing it back in my body. after wards, i've felt like there's an ease of pressure on my head, like an openess i have a hard time really describing,
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: musichighlife on 08 May 2013, 00:44:05
just another person to vouch for moon unit's stuff, everyone i have smoked it with has been able to blast off. its quite amazing :) i smoked some sunday night, while i was still tripping  a bit from a 5 strip i eat of some WoW. it was wonderful, i was frolicking with these god-like creatures and they took my brain/consciousness out of my head, and played with it, massaging it, and finally placing it back in my body. after wards, i've felt like there's an ease of pressure on my head, like an openess i have a hard time really describing,

Unfortunately he requires at least $500 spent, and I'm not quite there yet even though acquiring quality DMT was a main motivating factor of joining the Road. But his product seems to be on point and his price for domestic is real nice compared to most listings. Once I do hit the mark I'll be ordering from him mos def.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 08 May 2013, 07:25:50
It looks like he either ran out or took his listing down, but for US freebase users that meet the requirements is there any reason to order from anyone other than Moon Unit?  His price is so much better than most of the US domestic competition that I've been planning to order from him.

Earlier in this thread I remember reading that DMT prices have gone up, but it sounds like people are still buying.

I'm just wondering if I'm missing something.

No reason not to use him at all if you can. I like his product . A lot. And I have used several vendors. My 3 top quality product vendors are Moon Unit, Roger Pete, and Tree of Liberty. My opinion. MU's is often tannish and I don't say this as a negative. There is a quality to the trip that seems more mystical maybe from other alks flavoring the trip. I have had harsher yellow stuff, MU's is not harsh. Sometimes people burn it and blame it on the spice.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 08 May 2013, 12:56:34
after reading some reports on moon unit dmt i went to his vendor page to order but his must list is very arrogant fr someone selling this sacred spice .... in my country we only use p o box and he doesnt send to p o boxs .... sorry but no matter how high is the quality of the product if the vendor has such an attitude i prefer to go with a vendor who is chilled easy going and humble.

peace
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 08 May 2013, 14:59:16
I think Moon Unit is only US domestic.

Hopefully his product will become available again.  I almost ordered before it disappeared, although at this point I want to wait for my coin to recover in value anyway.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: musichighlife on 09 May 2013, 08:41:06
Placed an order with Fractalbliss of his 500mg white DMT. For the good of the Deemsters I'll post with feedback and quality, probably a trip report as well as I see he hasn't been reviewed here yet. From how fast his shipping usually is, should be in by early next week. So we shall see....another journey awaits!  8) 8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ixor568 on 09 May 2013, 10:31:08
I'll also be placing an order with Fractalbliss. Hope to hear what you think!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 09 May 2013, 15:53:37
just placed an order of 2gr change from Asylum ..... :-) ..... i decided to go with him as his changa seems the only one that contains harmala to prolong the trip .... + his stealth seems super, i hope it realy is ..... as soon as they get here i will try and report....

peace
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: RaFaeL5 on 09 May 2013, 18:06:10
just placed an order of 2gr change from Asylum ..... :-) ..... i decided to go with him as his changa seems the only one that contains harmala to prolong the trip .... + his stealth seems super, i hope it realy is ..... as soon as they get here i will try and report....

peace

You'll love it!
His stealth is top and his product is even better...
enjoy it as soon as you can ;-)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 09 May 2013, 19:25:08
just placed an order of 2gr change from Asylum ..... :-) ..... i decided to go with him as his changa seems the only one that contains harmala to prolong the trip .... + his stealth seems super, i hope it realy is ..... as soon as they get here i will try and report....

peace

You'll love it!
His stealth is top and his product is even better...
enjoy it as soon as you can ;-)

thanx for the comforting words .... excited about it ... last time i did dmt was almost a year ago .... ah that thrill and fear that joy and light .... yummmmm yum
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 10 May 2013, 22:10:57
just placed an order of 2gr change from Asylum ..... :-) ..... i decided to go with him as his changa seems the only one that contains harmala to prolong the trip .... + his stealth seems super, i hope it realy is ..... as soon as they get here i will try and report....

peace

You'll love it!
His stealth is top and his product is even better...
enjoy it as soon as you can ;-)

thanx for the comforting words .... excited about it ... last time i did dmt was almost a year ago .... ah that thrill and fear that joy and light .... yummmmm yum

Trip report please when you can! I'd like to hear some more about the Jungle spice offered too from someone if anyone of us Deemsters has tried it. Can anyone verify that Jungle was McKenna's medicine?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 11 May 2013, 00:27:32
I'll be getting 2g of the Jungle Spice sometime next week - eager to give it a rip/report :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 11 May 2013, 00:44:44
hey guys!  has anyone ever used  a gravity bong for the dmt??  it seems like a good way to do all of what was measured out.  See, i have been trying to build up the courage to do it again, for some reason i get scared when im holding the piece and will sit there for 45 mins and then say fuck it and put it away...  but i had the most awesome experience on it, and i want to finish that experience, or shit, have another one!! But i totally need to overcome this fear, and i think if i just take one G-bong hit, and hold........I should be where i wanna be....i think i need to do it during the day too, cuz for some reason, i feel more comfortable doing it during the day.
Any advice about overcoming this fear would be great...im chilling by myself right now and i think now would be the  best time to do it!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Sensei on 11 May 2013, 01:37:13
Hey guys I was wondering what does people think of elvis's DMT? Has anyone tried it I only see two people that's vouched for it on the first page and everyone has mostly been talking about other people's stuff.

Also I don't have a mg scale I only have a gram scale. I know I can buy one but just wondering is it really that bad of an idea to just try and sprinkle a little into a bowl of weed to smoke? What are people's thoughts on this?

I'm sure it's obvious I'm a complete noob with DMT and I've been wanting to wait until I built up a bit more experiences with LSD and mushrooms but I've been really curious about the wonders of DMT and what it will show me. I feel like I can wait there's no rush but at the same time I really am curious about it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 11 May 2013, 20:16:22
Also I don't have a mg scale I only have a gram scale. I know I can buy one but just wondering is it really that bad of an idea to just try and sprinkle a little into a bowl of weed to smoke? What are people's thoughts on this?

If you have at least a gram or feel confident in your scales half gram weighing ability, weigh up something that's easy to split into equal parts visually.. ie: 1g into 20 50mg doses, 500mg into 10 50mg doses, and if needed split a 50mg dose into 25 if you're a real noob :)


unrelated but PPLLUURR has his DMT back in stock again - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c531fa76f8/10
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 11 May 2013, 20:38:32
Also I don't have a mg scale I only have a gram scale. I know I can buy one but just wondering is it really that bad of an idea to just try and sprinkle a little into a bowl of weed to smoke? What are people's thoughts on this?

If you have at least a gram or feel confident in your scales half gram weighing ability, weigh up something that's easy to split into equal parts visually.. ie: 1g into 20 50mg doses, 500mg into 10 50mg doses, and if needed split a 50mg dose into 25 if you're a real noob :)

unrelated but PPLLUURR has his DMT back in stock again - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c531fa76f8/10

Thanx.  I'll change the OP.

I'm not a noob at all and almost never take even as much as 25mg.  If anything, I think noobs require more because they often have difficulties breaking through.  On the other hand, I usually load 50-60mg and smoke it in 3 or 4 hits (i.e., 3 or 4 different trips).  I was smoking DMT for years before having an accurate way to weigh it, and eyeballing it is a fine solution ... and as you gain some experience, it won't matter how much you load, you'll know how much to take when you're smoking and the rest will still be there next time.

On a related note, I finally sampled my refined extract.  I tripped to a song I've been working on (i.e., as much of it as I had already recorded and sequenced) and had the most euphoric DMT trip of my life (probably relevant that I had been smoking hash prior to and was extremely high when I pushed off).  While still smoking, it felt like I'd killed the flame too early and not gotten a very big hit, but the trip was intense (from which I conclude my spice is nice and potent).  I spent much of the trip (or at least the tail end) playing with time---that is, I found I could slow down or speed up time at will (the music was my reference point).  I tried to stop time as I had done on my last acid trip and managed to slow it down very drastically, but never actually stopped it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 11 May 2013, 21:10:08
I'm not a noob at all and almost never take even as much as 25mg.  If anything, I think noobs require more because they often have difficulties breaking through.  On the other hand, I usually load 50-60mg and smoke it in 3 or 4 hits (i.e., 3 or 4 different trips).  I was smoking DMT for years before having an accurate way to weigh it, and eyeballing it is a fine solution ... and as you gain some experience, it won't matter how much you load, you'll know how much to take when you're smoking and the rest will still be there next time.

Yeah, I personally like the 25mg range for my own trips - almost never go above 30mg unless I'm smoking changa, which it's just easier to intake quickly.  Have a friend who says the same.. 25mg is the place he wants to be.

Had a friend over last night to try for his first time, and did a 30mg first, and an hour later he was ready to see where 40mg would take him.. In his words.. "was the most perfect amount, time & place.. everything was just perfect". It was a 13min trip he had while 741hz tones/frequencies were played in home theater audio off youtube - which he said guided him 'perfectly' haha..

On a related note, I finally sampled my refined extract.  I tripped to a song I've been working on (i.e., as much of it as I had already recorded and sequenced) and had the most euphoric DMT trip of my life (probably relevant that I had been smoking hash prior to and was extremely high when I pushed off).  While still smoking, it felt like I'd killed the flame too early and not gotten a very big hit, but the trip was intense (from which I conclude my spice is nice and potent).  I spent much of the trip (or at least the tail end) playing with time---that is, I found I could slow down or speed up time at will (the music was my reference point).  I tried to stop time as I had done on my last acid trip and managed to slow it down very drastically, but never actually stopped it.
Very glad you wrote about this.. I was just talking/pondering about tripping to music I've created, and how it would affect the trip.  I've listened to McKenna talks while tripping with light music in the background and noticed a very clear interaction between the words/music and what was going on behind my eyelids.  Being involved with writing (sequencing) music, I was naturally curious about what might happen with something you've created that's unique (not ripped off samples/remix stuff) and was actually going to begin making a semi-ambient 15-25min 'trip' track to test this theory with a few different musical styles and see if the entities are pleased or show me something horrible lol..

I got to play with time a bit the first time I tried DMT - tilting my head to the left so my ear was nearly touching my shoulder would effectively 'stop' the machine-like visuals from 'going' but i could still watch them sort of hovering/waiting to start up again - once I tilted my head back up straight they would slowly pick back up again and be full speed by the time my head was upright... Not sure if that's quite what you're referring you.. but it was interesting :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 12 May 2013, 00:11:03
I got to play with time a bit the first time I tried DMT - tilting my head to the left so my ear was nearly touching my shoulder would effectively 'stop' the machine-like visuals from 'going' but i could still watch them sort of hovering/waiting to start up again - once I tilted my head back up straight they would slowly pick back up again and be full speed by the time my head was upright... Not sure if that's quite what you're referring you.. but it was interesting :)

I didn't do anything physical to affect time ... I just sort of decided to slow it down or speed it up and it happened.  The trip started with an ego death as usual, but rather than seeing my death and all the things she usually does, I found myself seeing God (myself) in a sort of egg/womb-like enclosure.  The song i was listening to has a lot of very fast programmed arpeggios, and I began to realise that the notes which had been too fast for human fingers to play were really drawn out and slow.  Time had dilated to a completely staggering extent, but as I started to think about it, time sped up again.  At this point, I decided to control it (which, as God, I knew I could do), and I played with it until the end of the song.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 12 May 2013, 01:24:11
I didn't do anything physical to affect time ... I just sort of decided to slow it down or speed it up and it happened.  The trip started with an ego death as usual, but rather than seeing my death and all the things she usually does, I found myself seeing God (myself) in a sort of egg/womb-like enclosure.  The song i was listening to has a lot of very fast programmed arpeggios, and I began to realise that the notes which had been too fast for human fingers to play were really drawn out and slow.  Time had dilated to a completely staggering extent, but as I started to think about it, time sped up again.  At this point, I decided to control it (which, as God, I knew I could do), and I played with it until the end of the song.
Ahh very cool, and completely different  :D  you learn new things every day.

Knowing how you programmed the arpeggios and that they usually sounded much faster would be a pretty obvious detail to notice in one's own compositions, and this is why I was curious about creating my own soundscape for tripping with.  Usually you listen to the same sequences so much you know the music intimately by the time it's done - so anything that deviates from the norm would be easy to notice compared to just background music or silence.  You've got me really curious to try with something I've composed myself now :)

Sounds like your extract is very nice as well  8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 12 May 2013, 17:09:33
ALRIGHT!!!!  I did it this morning guys!!!   I used the gravity bong(more of this freebase than i have ever done) and sandwiched it between some cannabis...boy that shit was milky!!  I than took 95% of it all in one hit...laid down, and was surprised to notice that i didnt have much anxiety or any drastic increase in heart rate.  Continued to lay there and after about 25-30seconds, i was like wtf, why isnt this shit from moon unit hitting me like the crystal i got from addyqueenhashking??? I cant believe i was afraid to do this!  i took more than i have ever taken in one hit!!  Although i did get some halfway decent shroom like (breathing) hallucinations, but i didnt even get close to any decent hallucinations, and am rather dissappointed because i took a HUGE hit, it must've been done right because that shit was smoking like a chimney, I never seen soo much smoke in a gravity bong...  The taste was extremely strong!! I think that this freebase is not very strong at all, and maybe that is why we were able to get a G for only $75.  I know now what i must do!!  I need to convert this freebase into a salt, i think, i just want to make this more pure, more potent.  What do i need to do guys, i want to experience the damn breakthrough!!  can i please get some advice on how to do this purifying or recrystalization thing....i just want it to be like the crystals that i smoked from AQHK, where 1 big hit from a damn pipe had me gone into crysanthemum land, and two hits was WAWAWAWAWAHHH!!!  Help me out guys...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: poolsclosed on 12 May 2013, 17:29:47
I've tried moon unit's stuff and given it to a lot of friends... needless to say, it's top quality. Very easy to inhale, and one friend of mine broke through successfully after his second try with DMT. The vendor is wonderful to interact with too.

As far as my friend's experience with breaking through with it goes... he said he met someone or some things on the other side, and this someone or some things communicated with him through the ancient language of Jamaican music. He couldn't communicate back, but he understood that they were ancestors. It's interesting that he said this, because he's never heard anything McKenna ever said about DMT. It took him about four tokes to get through, since we were using a glass ball pipe and having trouble with it, but as he broke through I was helping him get the rest vaporized, and he said he quickly returned to reality to inhale more as if he were driving back home to get something to help him go further in his car ride into hyperspace... well, it was wonderful seeing him doing this.

My other friends loved 20-30mg doses, reporting warping and expanding images and "being on another planet." I personally tried only 15mg, being completely new to it, and I must say it was more intense than any IM shot I've taken of MXE.

I highly recommend moon unit to everyone. 10/10 vendor.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 12 May 2013, 17:47:27
  The taste was extremely strong!!...
^^This! If you have had strong taste(from dmt, not ganja) then you burned it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 12 May 2013, 18:16:16
  The taste was extremely strong!!...
^^This! If you have had strong taste(from dmt, not ganja) then you burned it.


DAMNITTTTTTTT!!!!!  thats what i was thinking....i have now come to the coclusion that i am going to have to make some changa....i got some mullein and herb ( a sativa/juicy fruit, an indica/grape god, and a hybrid, wonderwoman)  on the nexus, it says to use Isopropyl, and i got some 91% ohh yea.  so i am going to dissolve the freebase into some iso alcohol and then put the herbs in to soak up.  but i do want to make it relatively strong so, and i got like .7 of a g to work with.... any quick advice guys??   would be greatly appreciated!!

And thanks for your input blazing sativa! :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 13 May 2013, 05:28:28
  The taste was extremely strong!!...
^^This! If you have had strong taste(from dmt, not ganja) then you burned it.


DAMNITTTTTTTT!!!!!  thats what i was thinking....i have now come to the coclusion that i am going to have to make some changa....i got some mullein and herb ( a sativa/juicy fruit, an indica/grape god, and a hybrid, wonderwoman)  on the nexus, it says to use Isopropyl, and i got some 91% ohh yea.  so i am going to dissolve the freebase into some iso alcohol and then put the herbs in to soak up.  but i do want to make it relatively strong so, and i got like .7 of a g to work with.... any quick advice guys??   would be greatly appreciated!!

And thanks for your input blazing sativa! :)

The taste of vapourised DMT shouldn't be harsh or 'extreme'.  It has a very sharp, synthetic flavour---like the taste analogue of a buzzing in the ears---but it sounds like you indeed burned your spice.  Out of curiosity: what exactly IS a gravity bong?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Zooted on 13 May 2013, 06:54:25
A gravity bong uses water/air pressure to pull a huge rip into the vessel.  One can be made by cutting the bottom off of a 2 liter or gallon jug and putting a bowl on the top.  Submerge in water, light the bowl on the top and lift.  The suction pulls in a massive hit, unscrew the lid/bowl and inhale as you press down.  Pretty effective way of getting ripped, for taking DMT though, not so sure.

I would also like to say that myself and a few friends were blown away by Moon Unit's gear.  One of my buddies had a full blown trip at 20mg (his first ever)

I highly recommend Moon Unit, his wares are solid.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: stryder71 on 13 May 2013, 13:04:27
If you want a great product for a great price within the EU, with no messing about, excellent communication and fast as hell shipping, then you want Multi Exciter.
His DMT is pure white and fluffy and always gets you off to other realms quickly. It doesn't burn too bad but if you touch it with the flame then it's gonna sting like any other.
His customer service is as pure as his product. He cares about his customers and his reputation and will do whatever it takes to keep his customers happy and coming back.
I had a slight issue with my first order from him but it would appear that it was not his fault and he went above and beyond to rectify this situation which was comfortably
resolved to say the least.
He always weighs 10% over to be sure there are no calibration issues so you're pretty much guaranteed what you ordered and some.
Excellent for UK to UK and wonderful, affordable price, especially for such a pure, clean product.
He is my favourite vendor on all of silk road, he's treated me with the greatest respect and has done everything within his power to meet my needs as he understands that
everyone's are different when it comes to shipping etc.
Excellent vendor on all fronts. Give him a try, you won't be disappointed, and if you are, he'll probably fix that for you.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 13 May 2013, 14:12:18
hey allllll

I am wondering what is the best way to smoking changa?? would just a regular pipe do?? i hear it is not like dmt that one has to vapo it??

pls share ur input!!

peace
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: RaFaeL5 on 13 May 2013, 15:24:19
hey allllll

I am wondering what is the best way to smoking changa?? would just a regular pipe do?? i hear it is not like dmt that one has to vapo it??

pls share ur input!!

peace

A bong is the only way to go, man...
put a screen in it, then some ashes and then the changa...
you can put some ganja under/above the change, but I wouldn't - changa is best at it's purest, mixing with ganja will not enhance the experience to my opinion, but it could weaken it (taking your attention of the changa experience and having it divided with the ganja).

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: RaFaeL5 on 13 May 2013, 15:42:41
Has anyone seen this "Atmos Thermo Vape Pen" (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/b86a55ebcf)... do you think this could be handy for having a small DMT experience in the open air, without "burning" most of it... ?
Idea's, thoughts, ...?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 13 May 2013, 18:50:00
A gravity bong uses water/air pressure to pull a huge rip into the vessel.  One can be made by cutting the bottom off of a 2 liter or gallon jug and putting a bowl on the top.  Submerge in water, light the bowl on the top and lift.  The suction pulls in a massive hit, unscrew the lid/bowl and inhale as you press down.  Pretty effective way of getting ripped, for taking DMT though, not so sure.

I know exactly what you mean.  Some friends and I used to make these for smoking buds.  I think we even called them gravity bongs at the time ... but it's been a long while since I was a stoner.  The best thing, though, was this enormous 'steamroller' my roommate made. -_o

@weed4me6969: I deliberately left the 'sandwich method' off of the OP because most agree it is NOT a good way to smoke DMT.  Don't waste your spice burning it up ... just use a proper vapourisation method.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 13 May 2013, 23:36:46
hey allllll

I am wondering what is the best way to smoking changa?? would just a regular pipe do?? i hear it is not like dmt that one has to vapo it??

pls share ur input!!

peace

Like RaFaeL5 said, Changa i found smokes best outta a DRY bong (regular bong with no water in it).  Now obviously the more chalk space the better, because its best to chalk it up real good and take it all in at once... this way you only have to take 1 big rip...but i have seen people take multiple rips from the bong...but be careful because they almost dropped it...

Personally i wouldn't use the vapo for changa, but hell, maybe it works just fine...i just figure changa was made to be smoked.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 14 May 2013, 06:23:12
  The taste was extremely strong!!...
^^This! If you have had strong taste(from dmt, not ganja) then you burned it.

Yerp. Nothing worse than the taste of scorched spice. I just received Moon Unit's latest offerings TODAY!!  I will be posting a review most likey vaped in this device  - https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=11711  - maybe tomorrow night. I am itching but today was a beatdown and I'd rather not go in so exhausted.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 14 May 2013, 07:58:05
hey allllll

I am wondering what is the best way to smoking changa?? would just a regular pipe do?? i hear it is not like dmt that one has to vapo it??

pls share ur input!!

peace


Hello there, the song of love (do I remember the meaning of your name correctly?).
I used just a normal smallish pipe I normally used when I smoked while travelling and it worked just fine, but yes, others are right that it is hard to take one big hit with it and i really did not like the way my changa was impacting me, so I never went back to it, gave the rest of my spice to a friend and since then only vaped freebase ...

haha yes ..... thank u all for the helpful tips ... i do have a tow chambered medium size bong but hoestly i have no clue how to let the smoke get all sucked into it b4 i inhale it ..... so changa wont die like dmt if i directly expose it to fire!! cant wait to get asylum's changa yummmmmmmy
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 14 May 2013, 14:14:04
@ Great Green Arkleseizure, hey brosif, how'd your pharma trip end up going?  I was reviewing earlier pages and I musta missed yer update, plus i lost my momentum reading around page 10 lol.

I am really thinking about trying this out, but i was just going to order some harmaline online...has anybody tried this extract?

There were a couple clearnet sites that were selling it, but i am unsure of which one to trust.

Well if anybody has any advice on making DMT orally active i am all ears.

From my research, you take the harmaline/MAOIs 20 min before you ingest the DMT.

but how much DMT? .2?  moar?

anyways good ventures to all!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 14 May 2013, 15:59:20
@ Great Green Arkleseizure, hey brosif, how'd your pharma trip end up going?  I was reviewing earlier pages and I musta missed yer update, plus i lost my momentum reading around page 10 lol.

I am really thinking about trying this out, but i was just going to order some harmaline online...has anybody tried this extract?

There were a couple clearnet sites that were selling it, but i am unsure of which one to trust.

Well if anybody has any advice on making DMT orally active i am all ears.

From my research, you take the harmaline/MAOIs 20 min before you ingest the DMT.

but how much DMT? .2?  moar?

anyways good ventures to all!

I have only had one pharma trip so far ... I wrote about it in detail here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=130501.msg891703#msg891703

This trip was a pharma-LSD-salvia combo, and was fucking INTENSE.  I took about 90mg of harmala extract and 150mg of high-purity DMT.  Looking back, I think the DMT may have been somewhat under-activated and the pharma portion of the trip lasted only 3.5--4 hours.

I have just finished my DMT extraction and harvested the first pull's worth of jungle spice.  I have refined a small amount of my extract for smoking, but left most of it rough for use in pharma kits.  I will try the jungle spice tonight or tomorrow, but I anticipate adding most of it to the pharma crystal.  In any case, I will be ready to test my homemade pharma by the weekend.  I will be taking 250mg of harmala extract followed by 200mg of rough MHRB extract about 45 minutes later (with no other drugs this time).  I fully anticipate this will be completely nuts. 

20 minutes is definitely shorter than any of the recommendations I've read ... many say 30, but it's a function of your metabolism and body chemistry---moreover, you're not losing anything by waiting slightly longer in between, as the harmala will be with you far longer than the DMT.  Also: if you take enough harmine/harmaline, you should feel it 'kick in' and so you'll know when to take the DMT that way.

Anyway, once I've tested the dosage, I'll make up as many pharma kits as I can (I will have 60+), hoping to sell off the majority and recoup my extraction costs (and other drug expenses if possible -_o).  The harmala extract was also self-extracted.  The source was syrian rue seeds and I used the 'vinegar' method described on erowid:
http://erowid.org/plants/syrian_rue/syrian_rue_extraction2.shtml
I've done this a couple of times now, and this extraction is highly effective and easy as piss.  Best of all, it requires only the seeds themselves and other things you already have in your kitchen (except perhaps non-iodised salt).  Syrian rue is legal most places (although the extraction is illegal in Canada) and quite cheap.  I definitely recommend you make your own.  The only piece of advice I have for you is: make sure you pour off as much clear liquid as possible after precipitation, because it takes excruciatingly long to filter through the extract.

I'm not sure about websites selling harmala extract, but since it's laughably easy to make, and legal everywhere except Canada, Australia, France, and Finland, it seems like they're likely to be legit (simply because scamming would be way more trouble than it's worth with this stuff).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 14 May 2013, 17:29:39
Did you convert the dmt to a salt or consume freebase? If you consumed it as a freebase, that could be why it was underactivated.

Freebase.  None of my research indicated that this mattered in the slightest ... other than that the alkalinity of the freebase may cause nausea.  Can you cite a reference which supports this claim?  If so, is there a tek to making DMT salts? (I realise it's probably just the same as for the harmala alkaloids, but I'd rather have concrete measurements to follow as I definitely don't want to waste any of my freebase in such a conversion).

I should say: I definitely DID have a pharma trip ... it just wasn't as long-lasting as I'd expected.  Now you have me worried though ... please expound.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bobsredmill on 14 May 2013, 17:38:35
i'm curious about a method of turning freebase to salt as well. also wondering if anyone has considered a way to neutralize the pH of freebase? personally i don't feel most DMT is that harsh but it would be comforting to know that you aren't inhaling something overly alkaline.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ro-Jaws on 14 May 2013, 18:08:24
Did you convert the dmt to a salt or consume freebase? If you consumed it as a freebase, that could be why it was underactivated.

Freebase.  None of my research indicated that this mattered in the slightest ... other than that the alkalinity of the freebase may cause nausea.  Can you cite a reference which supports this claim?  If so, is there a tek to making DMT salts? (I realise it's probably just the same as for the harmala alkaloids, but I'd rather have concrete measurements to follow as I definitely don't want to waste any of my freebase in such a conversion).

I should say: I definitely DID have a pharma trip ... it just wasn't as long-lasting as I'd expected.  Now you have me worried though ... please expound.

AFAIK it makes no difference to the trip whether or not its in a salt form when you swallow it. The freebase will be converted to the hydrochloride in the stomach long before it reaches the GI for absorption. The salt would really only be needed for IV or storage - maybe snorting? not sure about that last one but I have never read anything good about snorting DMT so I would give that method a wide berth.

Making a salt is always the same basic principle so if you can make Harmala salts then the same applies here. If you are worried about loosing some of the freebase use a mild acid like fumaric acid and saturate the solution. the HCL salt is notoriously difficult and in fact AFAIK all DMT salts are hygroscopic. I always wondered whether citric acid would work...

Anyway here is a tek to make the fumarate salt (got measurements and everything :p):
CLEARNET
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1569

Let us know how you get on, making a salt has always been area of interest.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 14 May 2013, 18:26:48
But if there is no difference between salt and freebase then why convert it?

I always heard salt was for injecting....but i wont ever do that either lol
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 14 May 2013, 18:55:38
AFAIK it makes no difference to the trip whether or not its in a salt form when you swallow it. The freebase will be converted to the hydrochloride in the stomach long before it reaches the GI for absorption. The salt would really only be needed for IV or storage - maybe snorting? not sure about that last one but I have never read anything good about snorting DMT so I would give that method a wide berth.

Making a salt is always the same basic principle so if you can make Harmala salts then the same applies here. If you are worried about loosing some of the freebase use a mild acid like fumaric acid and saturate the solution. the HCL salt is notoriously difficult and in fact AFAIK all DMT salts are hygroscopic. I always wondered whether citric acid would work...

Anyway here is a tek to make the fumarate salt (got measurements and everything :p):
CLEARNET
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1569

Let us know how you get on, making a salt has always been area of interest.

I will not bother making salt unless I find out it will make a difference to the trip.  Making harmala salts is part of the extraction process.  It's an A/B extraction using vinegar to produces acetates.  NaCl is then added to achieve a base-swap and hydrochloride salts precipitate out of the solution.  I like this method as it uses only common household ingredients---the tek you linked is nicely straighforward, but does involve a lot of chemicals not necessarily handy.  Of course, in order for this to work for DMT, one would have to know that DMT-HCl is insoluble in the water/sodium acetate solution that remains---i.e., it wouldn't if it is indeed hygroscopic.

Unrelatedly: I hadn't ever found a good tek for jungle spice extraction.  I roughly followed the same procedure as I had for the DMT extraction, now using xylene to pull.  I got a generous amount of red precipitate from the first pull, and got excited to try it.  Wanting to smoke it tonight, I performed a quick ammonia wash ... and all of the red washed out, along with what looks to be about 80% of what I started with.  What remains is mostly white and a bit yellow/orange in places.  Did I just fuck up?  If so, can I just let the ammonia evaporate to recover the lost jungle spice?  Anybody with knowledge about this, please chime in.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 15 May 2013, 03:21:44
AFAIK it makes no difference to the trip whether or not its in a salt form when you swallow it. The freebase will be converted to the hydrochloride in the stomach long before it reaches the GI for absorption. The salt would really only be needed for IV or storage - maybe snorting? not sure about that last one but I have never read anything good about snorting DMT so I would give that method a wide berth.

Making a salt is always the same basic principle so if you can make Harmala salts then the same applies here. If you are worried about loosing some of the freebase use a mild acid like fumaric acid and saturate the solution. the HCL salt is notoriously difficult and in fact AFAIK all DMT salts are hygroscopic. I always wondered whether citric acid would work...

Anyway here is a tek to make the fumarate salt (got measurements and everything :p):
CLEARNET
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=1569

Let us know how you get on, making a salt has always been area of interest.

I will not bother making salt unless I find out it will make a difference to the trip.  Making harmala salts is part of the extraction process.  It's an A/B extraction using vinegar to produces acetates.  NaCl is then added to achieve a base-swap and hydrochloride salts precipitate out of the solution.  I like this method as it uses only common household ingredients---the tek you linked is nicely straighforward, but does involve a lot of chemicals not necessarily handy.  Of course, in order for this to work for DMT, one would have to know that DMT-HCl is insoluble in the water/sodium acetate solution that remains---i.e., it wouldn't if it is indeed hygroscopic.

Unrelatedly: I hadn't ever found a good tek for jungle spice extraction.  I roughly followed the same procedure as I had for the DMT extraction, now using xylene to pull.  I got a generous amount of red precipitate from the first pull, and got excited to try it.  Wanting to smoke it tonight, I performed a quick ammonia wash ... and all of the red washed out, along with what looks to be about 80% of what I started with.  What remains is mostly white and a bit yellow/orange in places.  Did I just fuck up?  If so, can I just let the ammonia evaporate to recover the lost jungle spice?  Anybody with knowledge about this, please chime in.

Hey gga,

the ammonia wash you performed cut away all the extraneous DMT's, such as DMT-oxide and all the other ones, which are what give jungle spice its different experience from normal DMT. You should not wash or recrystallize in the process of making jungle spice. Also, you used normal MHRB, correct? If so, then you would get a more "normal DMT" heavy spice since jungle spice is done by using the leftover "muck" from a DMT extraction.

That said, the evaporation process takes a lot longer and cannot be freeze precipitated. Once you have it extracted on a tray, keep it in an area with a fan running for the first few days (2-3). After you take the fan away, place something to keep dust and such out on the tray. Now check every couple days on it. You are looking for the top of it to crystalize and for it to not smell like solvent. Once it does, you can take a flat blade and chop it up and fluff it up.  Now do the chop & fluff every day for a week or two.

You will have ready to use jungle spice after the substance completely looses its waxiness.

DMT
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 15 May 2013, 04:21:48
Thanx for the info, DMT.  Letting xylene evaporate inside is out of the question, fan or no fan ... when I first opened it, I spilled a bit.  I cleaned it up, but ended up wearing a mask for the next couple of hours while the house aired out.  The fumes are quite noxious.  What I need is a way to keep insects out of it so I can leave it outside.

All the same, it DID in fact precipitate ... at least something red did.  Maybe I'll just try again without the wash at the end and see what the red stuff's like.  Also: my feeling is that once the ammonia evaporates off, the stuff I mistakenly washed out will still be good.  Perhaps you know better?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: jesusofrave on 15 May 2013, 08:24:57
Hello all.

We have some of our Source B DMT available.

10 lots of 1g for 120USD per gram.

We are not going to publically list it via SR as we would rather just send it to forum dwellers :)

For those of you who are interested, here is the stealth link: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c672b18a9d

This is the same chemist who produced the samples sent to AnimusVox and dondada

jor
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 15 May 2013, 17:12:49
  The taste was extremely strong!!...
^^This! If you have had strong taste(from dmt, not ganja) then you burned it.


DAMNITTTTTTTT!!!!!  thats what i was thinking....i have now come to the coclusion that i am going to have to make some changa....i got some mullein and herb ( a sativa/juicy fruit, an indica/grape god, and a hybrid, wonderwoman)  on the nexus, it says to use Isopropyl, and i got some 91% ohh yea.  so i am going to dissolve the freebase into some iso alcohol and then put the herbs in to soak up.  but i do want to make it relatively strong so, and i got like .7 of a g to work with.... any quick advice guys??   would be greatly appreciated!!

And thanks for your input blazing sativa! :)
i mean just smoke it right, i had two very successful breakthroughs yesterday by just sandwiching 50 mgs between two layers of bud, and slowly lighting the top layer til it stays cherried. just keep it going from there with long, long draws and hold your hits for as long as possible.

dont touch the flame to the bud, it takes a while to perfect smoking dmt with bud but youll eventually get the hang of it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bobsredmill on 15 May 2013, 19:48:03
does anyone have experience with Harmine HCL specifically? i just found a gram thrown in with another order. from what i've read, 30mg and up seems to produce a variety of side effects that might be better explored first without the addition of DMT. 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 15 May 2013, 23:29:08
Thanx for the info, DMT.  Letting xylene evaporate inside is out of the question, fan or no fan ... when I first opened it, I spilled a bit.  I cleaned it up, but ended up wearing a mask for the next couple of hours while the house aired out.  The fumes are quite noxious.  What I need is a way to keep insects out of it so I can leave it outside.

All the same, it DID in fact precipitate ... at least something red did.  Maybe I'll just try again without the wash at the end and see what the red stuff's like.  Also: my feeling is that once the ammonia evaporates off, the stuff I mistakenly washed out will still be good.  Perhaps you know better?

Ahh, good thing you caught this before trying that. The method I am familiar with uses toluene, so I was not thinking of the side effects of xylene.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: jesusofrave on 16 May 2013, 00:54:05
Quote
By the way, JoR, when will you be bringing this fumerate salt ... I might want to take a bit to try with moclobemide.

We had a number of grams made by Blim for personal use. If you PM us we'll send you some, for being an all round stand up fellow

 8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 16 May 2013, 03:21:30
Any loyal Moon Unit customers know if he's lost it or just having fun on his vendor page?  I hope that DMT comes back soon.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 16 May 2013, 08:18:39
Any loyal Moon Unit customers know if he's lost it or just having fun on his vendor page?  I hope that DMT comes back soon.

For sure he's having fun. I feel pretty sure his DMT listings will be up again soon. I got a sample to review 2 days ago and finally got the time and headspace tonight. It's more creamy light yellow than the usual tan. Smells great. It was a smooth tasting vap and 30mg to start was pretty good. Graduated to 60 mg later after a break and some tea. I didn't finish it because the room became very active with machine elves. Soon I could feel tenacles or vines around my body. Very bizarre. Not sure if anyone else ever hears the sounds of entities like I do. Tonight they were chirping and various frequencies. I could feel them landing on my body even though I could not see them. I know I've said it before but it feels like they are healing me in a physical sense.
If you are in the USA I would most def scoop some up when the listing is back
 
does anyone have experience with Harmine HCL specifically? i just found a gram thrown in with another order. from what i've read, 30mg and up seems to produce a variety of side effects that might be better explored first without the addition of DMT. 

I am curious too. THX GGA for the extraction link. I bought 3oz of organic Syrian Rue to do an extraction. Probably going to throw some in the garden. Would taking it before vaporizing freebase work as well to increase the duration etc..?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 16 May 2013, 16:59:33
Would taking it before vaporizing freebase work as well to increase the duration etc..?

This has always made me wonder also...like get a good MAOI base inside you...then smoke like .1 of DMT?  I assumed it would start you at the peak of your trip and then slowly wear off over the next 4 hours...but i don't know if i could jump into a 4 hour DMT trip at its peak lol..
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 16 May 2013, 19:26:09
Any loyal Moon Unit customers know if he's lost it or just having fun on his vendor page?  I hope that DMT comes back soon.

For sure he's having fun.

He's doing a good job at it.  Finally built up my stats then both times I was ready to order I just barely missed his listing.  Maybe his elves are reading my thoughts.

Maybe these things happen for a reason.  I injected some ketamine last night and got lost.  I heard this buzzing tone that kept getting louder.  scared the shit out of me.

still, I can't wait to try some DMT.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Zooted on 16 May 2013, 20:49:40
Moon Unit definitely has the good stuff.  If you are in the US and have the stats, he has a great product at a great price.  I HIGHLY recommend him.

I vaped his DMT out of a volcano and everyone who tried was able to blast off in 3 hits.  Amazing experiences were had by all thanks to Moon Unit.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ro-Jaws on 16 May 2013, 21:55:35

I will not bother making salt unless I find out it will make a difference to the trip.  Making harmala salts is part of the extraction process.  It's an A/B extraction using vinegar to produces acetates.  NaCl is then added to achieve a base-swap and hydrochloride salts precipitate out of the solution.  I like this method as it uses only common household ingredients---the tek you linked is nicely straighforward, but does involve a lot of chemicals not necessarily handy.  Of course, in order for this to work for DMT, one would have to know that DMT-HCl is insoluble in the water/sodium acetate solution that remains---i.e., it wouldn't if it is indeed hygroscopic.


I can't see there being any difference between freebase and salt in terms of effectiveness (though it may make you nauseous - it wasn't a problem for me but thats not exactly representative), especially as DMT-HCL is solution has been used before "Early human studies involving the injection of solutions of the hydrochloride apparently made by dissolving DMT base in dilute aqueous HCl, and neutralizing this with base to achieve an end pH of approximately 6." - From the thikal entry on DMT. So DMT-HCL is certainly soluble in water and I would guess in such a solution as you mention as well.

Oh and I read that link I posted for the fumarate and I notice the guy who posted has put a warning under it saying something was wrong with it, a mis-labeled chemical or something so perhaps its just as well you aren't going to do it.

If you could find someone to inject you then it might be worth making a salt but I just don't see it otherwise.


Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 17 May 2013, 00:48:52
Would taking it before vaporizing freebase work as well to increase the duration etc..?

This has always made me wonder also...like get a good MAOI base inside you...then smoke like .1 of DMT?  I assumed it would start you at the peak of your trip and then slowly wear off over the next 4 hours...but i don't know if i could jump into a 4 hour DMT trip at its peak lol..

It doesn't really work like this.  I have tried smoking DMT on harmala extract on a handful of occasions, and I prefer pushing off from a sober state.  The trip is lengthened by a good amount, but not THAT much ... and the sedative effect of the MAOI fucks with your ability to keep up with the DMT trip.  I first tried smoking DMT on a light dose of harmala extract to test its potency and wrote about it here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=128241.msg890341#msg890341
I didn't try smoking DMT on a really strong dose of harmala until yesterday, when I tried my homemade pharma.

Trip Report:
Finding myself unexpectedly free yesterday, I decided try out my pharma (rather than waiting for the jungle spice).  I took 250mg of harmala extract and then 200mg of rough MHRB extract 30--40 minutes later.  I had walked up to my favourite trip spot at this point, and as with my previous pharma experience had to sit down to let some nausea pass.  The nausea did pass fairly quickly but the discomfort and belching and 'shroomy' sinking sensation in the pit of my stomach continued throughout.  In other respects, it reminded me more of LSD ... in particular I continually caught whiffs of that candy-acid smell and many of the same sensory impressions around the nose and mouth as I experience on acid.

What I wasn't getting were any real visuals.  I had this vague 'coming up' feeling for hours without any sign of visual distortion.  Every time I thought I might be seeing something, it turned out to be real. -_o  Things definitely had a bit of a 'glow' and my attention seemed more precise---e.g., seeing the disturbance of the water as the aggregation of thousands of individual ripples or contemplating  and accenting the visual relationships between exposed tree roots.  In this respect, it was really no different from being there sober while meditating ... except that I was constantly breaking my thoughtlessness to look for drug effects.  I did have a couple of strange and sudden auditory hallucinations ... but these only made me jump.  I also found I was too tired for the playful frolicking I usually engage in while tripping---doubtless because of the harmala extract.  After about 2 hours of waiting for the trip to really kick in, I went home to see what I could do to salvage the rest of the trip.

Once I got home and changed and lay down on my bed, I was suddenly able to notice that I seemed to be tripping much more than I had felt before.  It was strange to think that I was still on the come up, but I decided to smoke some DMT/salvia to help this along.  Of course, this made a world of immediate difference.  The 'breakthrough' stage of the trip lasted uncommonly long (~40mins), but only the very initial portion was reminiscent of a 'normal' DMT trip.  After a bit, the visuals I was having seemed to come by superimposing 5 different copies of my visual field in odd ways.  You know when you separate the visual input from you left and right eyes, and sometimes when you superimpose the two again, your brain doesn't put them together correctly at first?  I was sort of like that, but with more fields ... very hard to explain. 

Needless to say, the trip became much more interesting after this.  The overall effect from that hit of DMT/salvia is difficult to judge, but I'd put it somewhere in the vicinity of 2 hours.  One thing this forced me to realise was that I'd been looking for the wrong type of visuals earlier: I never got the wavy, oil-on-water kind of visual distortions like one has on LSD or shrooms, but had visuals like I described above and more common Escher-esque ones---i.e., visuals which required active participation.  I smoked some more DMT/salvia later and lots of hash.  After coming home, the trip had come together much better than previously, but I still felt as though I'd only just begun to have a trip and was trying anything to capitalise on it before it was all over.  All the same, by the time I'd come most of the way down, I wasn't feeling ready to be done tripping, and so I ate a tab and kept tripping the rest of the night.

The day had started with no plans for any kind of drug use (except perhaps coffee) and had become a veritable extravaganza of drug use (which is highly unusual for me).  I enjoyed the drugs I used, but am still quite disappointed in the results of my pharma experience.  All of my research indicated that this would be a really wild trip---if anything, too much---and I'm still not really sure what I did wrong.  I took the caps on an empty stomach, and I hadn't eaten anything beforehand, and so it's possible that my metabolism was just too slow and I needed to wait much longer to take the DMT cap.  In any case, my next experiment will be double: I'll make two caps of harmala extract and two caps of MHRB extract; I will take both harmala caps and wait at least an hour to take the first MHRB cap; if after another hour, I'm not satisfied with the progress of the trip, I'll have another cap to take.  I know now that smoking DMT can really kick-start a pharma trip, and so I might work that in earlier next time, too.  Also, I think I'll stay home next time.  The lack of energy from the harmala and the overall nature of the experience seem to make a natural tripping environment less desirable than with other psychedelics.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 17 May 2013, 06:49:47
Hello GGA,

Thank you for the report!
It seems that 200mg of your rough extract might have been not enough?

I am also starting to wonder if harmala is really the best potentiator for DMT ... I really need to find time to try moclobemide + DMT fumerate combo. Allegedly moclobemide has a lot lower sedative effect than harmala and fumerate is easier on ones stomach according to Blim.
Oh well, seeking time and setting to trip as usual :-)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 17 May 2013, 16:11:07
It seems that 200mg of your rough extract might have been not enough?

I am also starting to wonder if harmala is really the best potentiator for DMT

It's possible ... but I've mostly been reading that 75--100mg of DMT gives a hard trip.  I did smoke some of my extract before refining it, and it was pretty potent.  There's NO WAY that its DMT content is less than 37.5% (i.e., 75mg in 200mg of extract).  I suspect another culprit.  Under-activation seems unlikely too, which only leave the metabolism thing.  I'll be sure to have eaten something next time.

When I say 'harmala' I'm referring to the mixture of harmine, harmaline, and harmala obtained from syrian rue. Please do let us know how it goes with moclobemide.  I doubt syrian rue is the BEST solution, it just seems to be the most accessible one.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: pplluurr on 18 May 2013, 02:44:23
Incogmagnito sent me over here :),

Just thought I would check in and check this thread out :)

PPLLUURR
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 18 May 2013, 07:40:24
@PPLLUURR, welcome to this thread.
For those that have not tried PPLLUURR's listings I can vouch for him.
DMT was very pale off-white fine powder.
Stealth was great too.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: anonpsyact on 18 May 2013, 11:37:10
Would taking it before vaporizing freebase work as well to increase the duration etc..?

This has always made me wonder also...like get a good MAOI base inside you...then smoke like .1 of DMT?  I assumed it would start you at the peak of your trip and then slowly wear off over the next 4 hours...but i don't know if i could jump into a 4 hour DMT trip at its peak lol..

It doesn't really work like this.  I have tried smoking DMT on harmala extract on a handful of occasions, and I prefer pushing off from a sober state.  The trip is lengthened by a good amount, but not THAT much ... and the sedative effect of the MAOI fucks with your ability to keep up with the DMT trip.  I first tried smoking DMT on a light dose of harmala extract to test its potency and wrote about it here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=128241.msg890341#msg890341
I didn't try smoking DMT on a really strong dose of harmala until yesterday, when I tried my homemade pharma.

Trip Report:
Finding myself unexpectedly free yesterday, I decided try out my pharma (rather than waiting for the jungle spice).  I took 250mg of harmala extract and then 200mg of rough MHRB extract 30--40 minutes later.  I had walked up to my favourite trip spot at this point, and as with my previous pharma experience had to sit down to let some nausea pass.  The nausea did pass fairly quickly but the discomfort and belching and 'shroomy' sinking sensation in the pit of my stomach continued throughout.  In other respects, it reminded me more of LSD ... in particular I continually caught whiffs of that candy-acid smell and many of the same sensory impressions around the nose and mouth as I experience on acid.

What I wasn't getting were any real visuals.  I had this vague 'coming up' feeling for hours without any sign of visual distortion.  Every time I thought I might be seeing something, it turned out to be real. -_o  Things definitely had a bit of a 'glow' and my attention seemed more precise---e.g., seeing the disturbance of the water as the aggregation of thousands of individual ripples or contemplating  and accenting the visual relationships between exposed tree roots.  In this respect, it was really no different from being there sober while meditating ... except that I was constantly breaking my thoughtlessness to look for drug effects.  I did have a couple of strange and sudden auditory hallucinations ... but these only made me jump.  I also found I was too tired for the playful frolicking I usually engage in while tripping---doubtless because of the harmala extract.  After about 2 hours of waiting for the trip to really kick in, I went home to see what I could do to salvage the rest of the trip.

Once I got home and changed and lay down on my bed, I was suddenly able to notice that I seemed to be tripping much more than I had felt before.  It was strange to think that I was still on the come up, but I decided to smoke some DMT/salvia to help this along.  Of course, this made a world of immediate difference.  The 'breakthrough' stage of the trip lasted uncommonly long (~40mins), but only the very initial portion was reminiscent of a 'normal' DMT trip.  After a bit, the visuals I was having seemed to come by superimposing 5 different copies of my visual field in odd ways.  You know when you separate the visual input from you left and right eyes, and sometimes when you superimpose the two again, your brain doesn't put them together correctly at first?  I was sort of like that, but with more fields ... very hard to explain. 

Needless to say, the trip became much more interesting after this.  The overall effect from that hit of DMT/salvia is difficult to judge, but I'd put it somewhere in the vicinity of 2 hours.  One thing this forced me to realise was that I'd been looking for the wrong type of visuals earlier: I never got the wavy, oil-on-water kind of visual distortions like one has on LSD or shrooms, but had visuals like I described above and more common Escher-esque ones---i.e., visuals which required active participation.  I smoked some more DMT/salvia later and lots of hash.  After coming home, the trip had come together much better than previously, but I still felt as though I'd only just begun to have a trip and was trying anything to capitalise on it before it was all over.  All the same, by the time I'd come most of the way down, I wasn't feeling ready to be done tripping, and so I ate a tab and kept tripping the rest of the night.

The day had started with no plans for any kind of drug use (except perhaps coffee) and had become a veritable extravaganza of drug use (which is highly unusual for me).  I enjoyed the drugs I used, but am still quite disappointed in the results of my pharma experience.  All of my research indicated that this would be a really wild trip---if anything, too much---and I'm still not really sure what I did wrong.  I took the caps on an empty stomach, and I hadn't eaten anything beforehand, and so it's possible that my metabolism was just too slow and I needed to wait much longer to take the DMT cap.  In any case, my next experiment will be double: I'll make two caps of harmala extract and two caps of MHRB extract; I will take both harmala caps and wait at least an hour to take the first MHRB cap; if after another hour, I'm not satisfied with the progress of the trip, I'll have another cap to take.  I know now that smoking DMT can really kick-start a pharma trip, and so I might work that in earlier next time, too.  Also, I think I'll stay home next time.  The lack of energy from the harmala and the overall nature of the experience seem to make a natural tripping environment less desirable than with other psychedelics.

Maybe try LSD first Then the harmalas then DMT !?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 18 May 2013, 20:36:00
G'day all,

I was just wondering if anybody had any experience with DRshrooms' DMT listings - while everyone seems to be hovering around $130 mark for a gram his listings are at $93 (silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/110d459544) ? No feedback yet on either of his DMT listings of 1g, so I am naturally feeling cautious, but his overall score is 100, so there is hope.

Much obliged and enjoy your tripping days!



 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 18 May 2013, 21:35:33
Maybe try LSD first Then the harmalas then DMT !?

The first time, I tried pharma and LSD together (i.e., harmalas, LSD, then DMT).  This go-around was meant to be purely pharmahuasca.  Although I did eventually dose LSD, I waited until I was almost completely down from the pharma.  I'd prefer to leave LSD completely out of the equation with my next pharma experiment.  The harmalas do extend the usual LSD timeline as well, which is interesting in itself ... but the immediate goal is to create a full-impact pure pharma experience.

I was just wondering if anybody had any experience with DRshrooms' DMT listings - while everyone seems to be hovering around $130 mark for a gram his listings are at $93 (silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/110d459544) ? No feedback yet on either of his DMT listings of 1g, so I am naturally feeling cautious, but his overall score is 100, so there is hope.

Three people vouched for DRshrooms' DMT early in this thread.  He is currently #5 on the 'good' list.  Check the first 5 or 6 pages to see what people actually said about it.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 18 May 2013, 22:35:40
G'day all,

I was just wondering if anybody had any experience with DRshrooms' DMT listings - while everyone seems to be hovering around $130 mark for a gram his listings are at $93 (silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/110d459544) ? No feedback yet on either of his DMT listings of 1g, so I am naturally feeling cautious, but his overall score is 100, so there is hope.

Much obliged and enjoy your tripping days!
I bought from him around 6 monthes ago so i don`t know about his current product.  It was pretty good orange dmt but i think it was a bit less potent, comparing to other vendors stuff. Probably thats why it was cheaper. Back then it costed ~65$/g while others were selling it already at high prices so no complaints from my side. Good communication and fast shipping.  :)
best vibes
BlazingSatva.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: pplluurr on 19 May 2013, 00:43:52
@PPLLUURR, welcome to this thread.
For those that have not tried PPLLUURR's listings I can vouch for him.
DMT was very pale off-white fine powder.
Stealth was great too.


@INCOGMAGNITO - Most people say theres are yellowish unless very pure in which case crystals or off white, Just wondering if you did enjoy the product and if it was good etc.

To everyone else, I am thinking about throwing a sale for dmt and bulk listings would there be anyone interested please PM me.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 19 May 2013, 03:42:36
Hello, deemsters!

Code: [Select]
dmtnexus(99)            250mg   ฿0.38/£30.39    United Kingdom
rogerpete(100)          1g      ฿1.45/£115.95   USA
rogerpete(100)          0.5g    ฿0.83/£66.37    USA
AussieDMT(99)           0.5g    ฿1.15/£91.96    Australia
multi exciter(97)       0.5g    ฿0.63/£50.38    United Kingdom
multi exciter(97)       1g      ฿1.06/£84.76    United Kingdom
AussieDMT(99)           1g      ฿2.18/£174.33   Australia
Asylum(100)             2g      ฿1.85/£147.94   Czech Republic
Asylum(100)             1g      ฿1.07/£85.56    Czech Republic
Asylum(100)             0.5g    ฿0.75/£59.97    Czech Republic
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uhrwerk(100)            1g      ฿1.18/£94.36    Germany
Rainbow Snail(100)      250mg   ฿0.57/£45.58    Australia
uhrwerk(100)            0.1g    ฿0.37/£29.59    Germany
TheDutchGuy(90)         0.1g    ฿0.14/£11.20    Netherlands
NewTime(96)             0.5g    ฿0.61/£48.78    Netherlands
TheDutchGuy(90)         250mg   ฿0.32/£25.59    Netherlands
Asylum(100)             0.2g    ฿0.45/£35.98    Czech Republic
NewTime(96)             0.5g    ฿0.44/£35.19    Netherlands
DRshrooms(100)          0.1g    ฿0.14/£11.20    Western Europe (not NL)
NewTime(96)             1g      ฿0.81/£64.77    Netherlands
PPLLUURR(100)           0.5g    ฿0.48/£38.38    Canada
NewTime(96)             1g      ฿1.05/£83.96    Netherlands
Asylum(100)             1g      ฿0.52/£41.58    Czech Republic
TheDutchGuy(90)         0.5g    ฿0.57/£45.58    Netherlands
Asylum(100)             0.1g    ฿0.27/£21.59    Czech Republic
Asylum(100)             0.5g    ฿0.36/£28.79    Czech Republic
MaidMandy(100)          0.2g    ฿0.32/£25.59    Ireland
MaidMandy(100)          0.1g    ฿0.21/£16.79    Ireland
DReaMensioN(100)        0.5g    ฿1.27/£101.56   USA
DReaMensioN(100)        0.2g    ฿0.56/£44.78    USA
bigblack                1g      ฿0.59/£47.18    USA
Asylum(100)             2g      ฿0.95/£75.97    Czech Republic
DReaMensioN(100)        50mg    ฿0.24/£19.19    Canada
omnis(100)              250mg   ฿0.67/£53.58    EU (not NL)
legalbudz(100)          0.5g    ฿1.01/£80.77    USA
PPLLUURR(100)           1g      ฿0.89/£71.17    Canada
jesusofrave(99)         1g      ฿1.06/£84.76    United Kingdom
DRshrooms(100)          1g      ฿0.75/£59.97    Western Europe (not NL)
curiosity1(95)          0.5g    ฿3.86/£308.67   USA
omnis(100)              1g      ฿2.44/£195.12   EU (not NL)
NewTime(96)             1g      ฿0.53/£42.38    Netherlands
NewTime(96)             0.5g    ฿0.36/£28.79    Netherlands
curiosity1(95)          0.1g    ฿0.22/£17.59    USA
DRshrooms(100)          1g      ฿0.75/£59.97    Western Europe (not NL)
TommyChong              250mg   ฿0.33/£26.39    USA
TommyChong              0.1g    ฿0.21/£16.79    USA
TommyChong              0.5g    ฿0.62/£49.58    USA
Asylum(100)             5g      ฿1.97/£157.53   Czech Republic
Asylum(100)             10g     ฿3.48/£278.28   Czech Republic
omnis(100)              0.1g    ฿0.29/£23.19    EU (not NL)
freewheelinf(100)       250mg   ฿0.31/£24.79    Netherlands
JeffBobb                250mg   ฿0.24/£19.19    USA
GemStoneMarket(98)      150mg   ฿0.44/£35.19    Australia
Maggots(100)            50mg    ฿0.16/£12.79    USA
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 19 May 2013, 03:51:28
Hey guys!

I decided to make some changa with the remaining DMT i had, which was like .5g of freebase, and dissolved in approximately 10 mL of ISO.  I used a mixture of about .5g of passionflower, .2 skullcap, and .1 mullein.... dried for four days today!! I hope i can expect good results from this mixture.  Tell me what you guys think.  i know i should have used caapi or syrian rue, but i didnt want to order any online, and dont know where to find any around in any stores....But i tried to follow the directions from the nexus site, just used a little less alcohol because it seemed like it would be enough... it looks real good though, and am going to hopefully try it out tonight, that is, if i have the balls to do it... :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Japan1980 on 19 May 2013, 08:38:17
I recently tried some of dmtnexus's DMT - and what can I say but WOW. Completely took me to a new dimension. The best way of explaining it was that I was a piece in the game tetris and by trying to move around the room - I was solving the puzzle, with a gamesmaster sitting on the bed next to me advising me on what to do next.

Fucking fantastic DMT, and I can personally vouch for dmtnexus as having excellent quality DMT, I'll be a return customer for sure. Plus the fact my old machine was fucked and didn't have to hand what I needed to build one - he made one and in preloaded it, which was a bonus, with put in double what he advertised for me, so not only was he generous, his quality was A+

I will go into my review and experience when I have a little more time. 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 19 May 2013, 08:58:01
I bought from him around 6 monthes ago so i don`t know about his current product.  It was pretty good orange dmt but i think it was a bit less potent, comparing to other vendors stuff. Probably thats why it was cheaper. Back then it costed ~65$/g while others were selling it already at high prices so no complaints from my side. Good communication and fast shipping.  :)
best vibes
BlazingSatva.

Thank you, BlazingSatva! +1
Interesting that dmtnexus has resurfaced with his stock, but only listing he has for now is 250mg ... If I buy I prefer to buy a gram and worry less about my restocking :)

Hey guys!

I decided to make some changa with the remaining DMT i had, which was like .5g of freebase, and dissolved in approximately 10 mL of ISO.  I used a mixture of about .5g of passionflower, .2 skullcap, and .1 mullein.... dried for four days today!! I hope i can expect good results from this mixture.  Tell me what you guys think.  i know i should have used caapi or syrian rue, but i didnt want to order any online, and dont know where to find any around in any stores....But i tried to follow the directions from the nexus site, just used a little less alcohol because it seemed like it would be enough... it looks real good though, and am going to hopefully try it out tonight, that is, if i have the balls to do it... :)

+1 for having a sense of adventure. Let us know how it goes!


@INCOGMAGNITO - Most people say theres are yellowish unless very pure in which case crystals or off white, Just wondering if you did enjoy the product and if it was good etc.

To everyone else, I am thinking about throwing a sale for dmt and bulk listings would there be anyone interested please PM me.

@PPLLUURR, yes your product was great, indeed. The only reason I do not come back is I prefer closer to home vendors - less time in transit and less chance of customs kicking in.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: pplluurr on 19 May 2013, 19:06:19
Hello Fellow Deemsters,

I am just wondering if any of you would be interested if I did a DMT sale? And or interested in bulk deals at all? If so please send me a PM just trying to check interest etc at this time :)

Thanks
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 19 May 2013, 19:26:19
UPDATE:  I tried the changa that i made, and i took a smaller dose so i could get a feel for it, and it was just awesome.  I loved the gentle way that it hit my body, and i had great feelings of understanding of different things, and just geeked out cause it was just soo funny to me that it was all coming together...LOL it was great!  I really do like the mixture of passionflower, skullcap, and mullein.. definitely better than the first stuff i tried to make with just two different kinds of cannabis.  much more foggy experience, and honestly the passionflower mixture felt a lot easier on my body.

I am about to do it in a little bit here, gonna go for a stronger dose, hoping to really have a revelation!!!  Wish me luck goin in guys!!  8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: pplluurr on 19 May 2013, 19:42:32
Hello Fellow Deemsters,

I am just wondering if any of you would be interested if I did a DMT sale? And or interested in bulk deals at all? If so please send me a PM just trying to check interest etc at this time :)

Thanks

Possibly depending on prices. Would it be the source B dmt that jor had? I tested it for him and it was some of the best I've ever had. I'm pretty sure I speak for most people when I say I wouldn't be interested if FE was required.


Hello Friend,

No I do not require FE however this does also depend on what country, buyer stats etc.

As for JOR's no it is not I do have reviews in my thread etc though.

PPLLUURR
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: pplluurr on 19 May 2013, 21:43:38
Incogmagnito - I just have a bit of a stockpile and would like to spread it around and give people the experience if they have not already and figured there may be a few people who have friends or are interested in reselling it kind of thing.

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: pplluurr on 19 May 2013, 23:37:30
PM me for details :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 20 May 2013, 01:27:38
hello ;D just dropping in to say i put up a few grams of some nice quality freshly extracted pale yellow DMT. yield is wildly inconsistent batch to batch with this supplier but honestly this crystal looks a little cleaner than usual so i suppose it evens out. enjoy!

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/fd7f197b00
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 20 May 2013, 07:20:06
hello all ....

i really wish someone can make tge right mixture of aya and sell it by the gram without the caps as i guess easier and safer to ship.... i did place an order with Trojan when he was still vending but never arrived.... can anyone give it a try??

peace
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 20 May 2013, 07:51:07
UPDATE:  I tried the changa that i made, and i took a smaller dose so i could get a feel for it, and it was just awesome.  I loved the gentle way that it hit my body, and i had great feelings of understanding of different things, and just geeked out cause it was just soo funny to me that it was all coming together...LOL it was great!  I really do like the mixture of passionflower, skullcap, and mullein.. definitely better than the first stuff i tried to make with just two different kinds of cannabis.  much more foggy experience, and honestly the passionflower mixture felt a lot easier on my body.

I am about to do it in a little bit here, gonna go for a stronger dose, hoping to really have a revelation!!!  Wish me luck goin in guys!!  8)


Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 20 May 2013, 16:22:43
hello all ....

i really wish someone can make tge right mixture of aya and sell it by the gram without the caps as i guess easier and safer to ship.... i did place an order with Trojan when he was still vending but never arrived.... can anyone give it a try??

peace

i did omnis' pharmahuasca and that was an absolutely mind blowing experience.(he shipped it in bags not caps.)

although i do wish i could just get a good source for syrian rue, so i could make my own extract of harmalas (pure harmalas seem to be so expensive on here)

either way the experience really is worth the money, i just know that with some hard work and patience it would be a lot less costly.  :P

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 20 May 2013, 16:27:09
oh and i almost forgot, i made an order a few days ago for bigblacks domestic dmt (72 dollars usd)

i would normally say this is too good to be true but i ordered from moon unit a week or two ago and his shit was BOMB.

right up there with rogerpetes in potency no doubt, and definitely better than the spice i got from elvis.

lawl, im going to end up buying dmt from everyone on sr at some point. xD


either way im letting you guys know for a few reasons, one being just a heads up, i should have a review in a few days.

and two, i would really like to know if anyone else has any experience with this vendor? hes been great to communicate and seems like a stand-up guy...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 20 May 2013, 19:20:54
hello all ....

i really wish someone can make tge right mixture of aya and sell it by the gram without the caps as i guess easier and safer to ship.... i did place an order with Trojan when he was still vending but never arrived.... can anyone give it a try??

peace

i did omnis' pharmahuasca and that was an absolutely mind blowing experience.(he shipped it in bags not caps.)

although i do wish i could just get a good source for syrian rue, so i could make my own extract of harmalas (pure harmalas seem to be so expensive on here)

either way the experience really is worth the money, i just know that with some hard work and patience it would be a lot less costly.  :P

ahhhhhh is he still around ?? how was your experience?? did write any report about it? i really wish i can have some ... i find dmt to be the only substance with a true real soul with dimensions of its own unlike any other substance ... i am so bored of lsd honestly....
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 20 May 2013, 22:13:59
hello all ....

i really wish someone can make tge right mixture of aya and sell it by the gram without the caps as i guess easier and safer to ship.... i did place an order with Trojan when he was still vending but never arrived.... can anyone give it a try??

peace

i did omnis' pharmahuasca and that was an absolutely mind blowing experience.(he shipped it in bags not caps.)

although i do wish i could just get a good source for syrian rue, so i could make my own extract of harmalas (pure harmalas seem to be so expensive on here)

either way the experience really is worth the money, i just know that with some hard work and patience it would be a lot less costly.  :P

ahhhhhh is he still around ?? how was your experience?? did write any report about it? i really wish i can have some ... i find dmt to be the only substance with a true real soul with dimensions of its own unlike any other substance ... i am so bored of lsd honestly....

Yep, here it is, love song!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/630ab6213e

How come you are bored of L? Just curious as to how it feels.
Is it that you get repetitive trips ... Or you have such a tolerance that you need to get really high doses?
Have you tried ketamine while peaking on LSD?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: quken on 20 May 2013, 23:48:36
I'd like to do my duty and vouch for dmtnexus product. And he has it in stock again.

I'll see if I can find the link to my review, I'll update later if I find it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 21 May 2013, 01:01:57
hello all ....

i really wish someone can make tge right mixture of aya and sell it by the gram without the caps as i guess easier and safer to ship.... i did place an order with Trojan when he was still vending but never arrived.... can anyone give it a try??

peace

i did omnis' pharmahuasca and that was an absolutely mind blowing experience.(he shipped it in bags not caps.)

although i do wish i could just get a good source for syrian rue, so i could make my own extract of harmalas (pure harmalas seem to be so expensive on here)

either way the experience really is worth the money, i just know that with some hard work and patience it would be a lot less costly.  :P

ahhhhhh is he still around ?? how was your experience?? did write any report about it? i really wish i can have some ... i find dmt to be the only substance with a true real soul with dimensions of its own unlike any other substance ... i am so bored of lsd honestly....

Yep, here it is, love song!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/630ab6213e

How come you are bored of L? Just curious as to how it feels.
Is it that you get repetitive trips ... Or you have such a tolerance that you need to get really high doses?
Have you tried ketamine while peaking on LSD?

Ah cool he exists but a bit expensive ... i read some reports that 50mg dmt is way too little but i guess this varies from one to another...

Inco yes i get the same repetitve trips ... i have no tolerance as i trip every tow or 3 months once abd no matter how small is the dose i go through ego suspension and the soul manifests very strongly that when setting with other trippers some get scared and all knowledge of the universe is available to me to bring forward to this realm we call earth .... any ways i achieve the same result from a few puffs of weed, so no need for acid .... so it has become boring..... never tried ketamine ... but i just recived some dom tabs and will test them this sat in a psy 24hr event ... read so much about it ....

peace
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 21 May 2013, 01:20:54
i have no tolerance as i trip every tow or 3 months once abd no matter how small is the dose i go through ego suspension and the soul manifests very strongly that when setting with other trippers some get scared and all knowledge of the universe is available to me to bring forward to this realm we call earth .... any ways i achieve the same result from a few puffs of weed, so no need for acid .... so it has become boring.....

Sounds a lot like my drug reactions, except for the boredom.  I'd have thought that was one emotion a true awakening made utterly impossible.  I do understand feeling as though tripping has become sort of unnecessary, but lately that's been striking me more with DMT than with LSD.  It's a natural consequence: if we're to be able to experience and understand ultimate truth, then by construction, this becomes a limitation on 'how far out' we can go.  Out of curiosity: do you meditate or do anything to expand your consciousness from a sober state?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 21 May 2013, 01:39:08
UPDATE:   OHHHHH MYYYYYY GOOOOOOSH!!!!!  I have never in my life, expected to go through that...it was the most profound experience you guys, sooo beautiful and.....real.....you absolutely must hear about it!  OK  I want to start by saying that i ACTUALLY saw ELVES!!  I cannot believe it!  I have just had one of the most beautiful, meaningful, interacting moments....  There was so many of them all over the place running around, flipping, dancing, floating,spinning...but they were very very define, they were freekin elves man!!!  And i was in the most beautiful place, they were dancing around prismic colorful shapes that seemed to morph...it was INSANE!!!  I was almost scared of them at first, thinking that they would notice me, and ONE DID!!  He looked right at me, made eye contact, stared at me for about 3 seconds, and kept going, dancing, flipping.... but the extreme happiness was radiating off of these creaturesat this moment, so i could not even think to continue being scared, i cant believe it....i just enjoy the rest of this experience.....fading ever so slowly... 

You guys, this is absolutely mind blowing.  how can all of us see the same things, these creatures that seem to have there own personalities, their own will's....dancing around, and these symbols morphing... this needs to be studied further.  I have more than lost my breathe at this point in time...I am just very happy that i finally experienced what i was after, especially after failing soo many times, with the gravity bong, smoking freebase,  i must've messed it up... because the changa i made, i took three good hits of quickly, and had this exp.   absolutely amazing.  :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 21 May 2013, 09:05:11
i have no tolerance as i trip every tow or 3 months once abd no matter how small is the dose i go through ego suspension and the soul manifests very strongly that when setting with other trippers some get scared and all knowledge of the universe is available to me to bring forward to this realm we call earth .... any ways i achieve the same result from a few puffs of weed, so no need for acid .... so it has become boring.....

Sounds a lot like my drug reactions, except for the boredom.  I'd have thought that was one emotion a true awakening made utterly impossible.  I do understand feeling as though tripping has become sort of unnecessary, but lately that's been striking me more with DMT than with LSD.  It's a natural consequence: if we're to be able to experience and understand ultimate truth, then by construction, this becomes a limitation on 'how far out' we can go.  Out of curiosity: do you meditate or do anything to expand your consciousness from a sober state?

yes have been involved in spiritual persue for over 11 years ... traveled many time to India and other parts looking for answers and dozens of pracrices and methods ... meditation is one of them ... perhaps that is why it is easy to achieve ego suspension from a couple puffs of weed ... but dmt still graps my attention .... i have found it to be very sacred in nature and natural to our system ...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: quken on 21 May 2013, 12:44:47
I'd like to do my duty and vouch for dmtnexus product. And he has it in stock again.

I'll see if I can find the link to my review, I'll update later if I find it.

UPDATE: I found my first dmt experience review here:

Hi evrybody. I am new to the forum part of silkroad so bear with me...
Ordered 250mg last week. Have been trying to smoke it for the first time in a 1.5l PET bottle with the bottom part cut off and replaced with tin foil as recommended in a youtube video. I used a cheap storm lighter with such a small flame it just didn't perform very well. Just got myself mild mushroomy visuals on top of all layers surrounding me in my room.
Realised the bottle was too big anyway and the taste was terrible most probably because the chemical got burnt.

So I looked after some small serving alcohol bottle or such, and the smallest one I could find was a 10cl one, but a great leap from the 1.5l bottle. So I tried it using the same shitty lighter as before. Which also had a metal lid that folds 90 degrees straight up almost parallell with the flame so it was damn tricky to see where you pointed the flame when held the bottle against my mouth inhaling. Well I got a little better reaction on this trial and whats surprising was that the vapor didn't really taste anything before I exhaled it.

So I ordered a better jet torch lighter with the flame coming out not straight up but in a 45 degree angel which was better for aiming the hot air in the bottle. So I tried a 5cl bottle yesterday when I got my lighter and a 0.001g scale. So yesterday I tried to load the bottle from the hole underneath and placing it inside the bottle on the steel mesh, that was terrible and half the dose is still in the bottle between the bottle neck and the steel mesh and never got vaporized. So the first thing I did today when I awakened a got up placing just 25mg on top of the bottle, preheated it to try to melt it as best I could, but there was a little smoke so I stopped just melted 75% of it. Set the lighter ablaze and inhaled what felt lika an eternity and when my lungs was almost filled I tried to get cold air inside my lungs and I immedietly start coughing big clouds of smoke... then I thought I would try to get the rest that was left in the bottle , but I just turned on the lighter and was going to put it to my mouth but then suddenly felt I wasn't going to be able to finish it. So it put down the pipe and relaxed with closed eyes as there was more intense visuals now and the feeling that I just forgot to breath all the time. So I had to force myself to breath all the time... Very nice feeling to it all, but definitly no breakthrough or ego loss... but that's fine. I strongly belive I have to explore the dmt in my own pace little by little to learn to master the art. At least I'm getting satisfied results now, but the dmt starts to run out for me now, maybe have 60-80mg left. But I will probably do another order soon if I can manage to reorganize funds in some way.

Many thanks to dmtnexus for kind support and fast shipping.... you'll be hearing from me again soon!!!

Peace out!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 21 May 2013, 12:51:17
I thought I was quite a brave person but this DMT thing is proving me that I am really so fearful at the core :)

Many attempts, many wonderful visuals, few sub-breakthroughs and yet ...

Not giving up ...

@GSE, do not give up! What DMT do you have and what do you use for smoking it?
If smoking is troublesome have you tried MAOI + DMT orally.
People say that they can get to the same state as smoking but for 2 hours :-)

UPDATE:   OHHHHH MYYYYYY GOOOOOOSH!!!!!  I have never in my life, expected to go through that...it was the most profound experience you guys, sooo beautiful and.....real.....you absolutely must hear about it!  OK  I want to start by saying that i ACTUALLY saw ELVES!!  I cannot believe it!  I have just had one of the most beautiful, meaningful, interacting moments....  There was so many of them all over the place running around, flipping, dancing, floating,spinning...but they were very very define, they were freekin elves man!!!  And i was in the most beautiful place, they were dancing around prismic colorful shapes that seemed to morph...it was INSANE!!!  I was almost scared of them at first, thinking that they would notice me, and ONE DID!!  He looked right at me, made eye contact, stared at me for about 3 seconds, and kept going, dancing, flipping.... but the extreme happiness was radiating off of these creaturesat this moment, so i could not even think to continue being scared, i cant believe it....i just enjoy the rest of this experience.....fading ever so slowly... 

You guys, this is absolutely mind blowing.  how can all of us see the same things, these creatures that seem to have there own personalities, their own will's....dancing around, and these symbols morphing... this needs to be studied further.  I have more than lost my breathe at this point in time...I am just very happy that i finally experienced what i was after, especially after failing soo many times, with the gravity bong, smoking freebase,  i must've messed it up... because the changa i made, i took three good hits of quickly, and had this exp.   absolutely amazing.  :)

@weed4me6969, wow ... Looks like you have written that before final landing has happened!
And it is good as having memory of the trip is something I am jealous of.
Whose product was it? How did you vape it?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 21 May 2013, 17:16:20
@incogmagnito - Thanks for the encouragement. I have rogerpete's DMT. I have my own version of machine and I think that is working fine. I get the clear vapor and no burning of DMT. But I think it's my fear that is not letting me take 3 tokes. I am taking 1-2 max :)
That 3rd toke can be hard to get without a sitter egging you on, or helping operate the tools :)

After that 2nd toke it's usually like 'omg hurry up!' because you're body's buzzing already and starting to blast off
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 21 May 2013, 20:15:07
hey....

i remembet a time when dmt freebase was sold 80$ per gram more or less ... Trojan and Dimitrispice were the ones providing so much .... i got my first dmt experience from trojan .... their a paharmawascha caps were sold 10$ in bulk .... whats happening now with the prices for dmt is just really way tooooo much ... 120$ up to 300$ per gram!!!! this is sad ....  and 65$ for the pharma????:-(
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 21 May 2013, 20:16:58
@incogmagnito - Thanks for the encouragement. I have rogerpete's DMT. I have my own version of machine and I think that is working fine. I get the clear vapor and no burning of DMT. But I think it's my fear that is not letting me take 3 tokes. I am taking 1-2 max :)
That 3rd toke can be hard to get without a sitter egging you on, or helping operate the tools :)

After that 2nd toke it's usually like 'omg hurry up!' because you're body's buzzing already and starting to blast off

I don't know what you guys feel but after the first toke is out after 10-12 seconds of holding then I need about 2-3 seconds for catching up with my breathing. But by the time I start the the second toke the reality is transformed so much I already feel alien with the apparatus on my mouth :). I guess my biggest fear has been handling of the tool with the fire from a powerful butane torch lighter. In my previous life I used to handle those volatile inflammable chemicals and I know how devastating they can be. Past life does put some limitations on the current life/action :)

I guess from the operational point of view (safety and easiness) Volcano would the ideal solution. But that's a huge investment :)

             

My method is to take a hit, suck it down, wait only a moment (like 3 seconds), then repeat for hit #2, then take a huge hit, making sure to get all the spice left, then inhaling and holding it down for as long as I can. I can pretty much never remember exhaling the final hit, because I do so in hyperspace.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 21 May 2013, 23:14:52
@incogmagnito - Thanks for the encouragement. I have rogerpete's DMT. I have my own version of machine and I think that is working fine. I get the clear vapor and no burning of DMT. But I think it's my fear that is not letting me take 3 tokes. I am taking 1-2 max :)

Will try the oral route after having a breakthrough using the smoking method.
Man i know what you are talking about, i actually believe that it was my fear all along that was preventing me from breaking through.  Then usually after i did it or during my trip i always thought, why am i soo scared of this??  It is a very powerful feeling though, almost overwhelming, but the most beautiful at the same time!

Hey incog.. It was moon unit's freebase, that i had made into a changa after not breaking through as i wanted to due to, im assuming, flaws in my technique, So i just got some herbs and made a mix of 0.5g freebase in ISO, then added the 0.5 passionflower, 0.2 skullcap, 0.1 mullein.  Dried for 4 days to be very safe. (prob could have used the next day as it was 91% and in front of fan all night)  But yea after i made the changa, i just smoked it out of a spare vape hose...with a lighter, trying to light it from as far away as possible and pull away when it starts to cherry.  I took 3 good quick hits.  and had some relaxing chinese nature music.... which the elves seemed to absolutely love because they were all sooo verrry happy, it was just such an overwhelming feeling of happiness in this place....Like i said i was scared at first when i saw these creatures because i have done dmt about 10 times, and never saw anything like this!  My eyes were closed for most of the trip, after the elves faded, i opened my eyes and was just like "WOW"  and reflected on what i saw and enjoyed the afterglow.  I cant even explain to you how real these things are and how they all were there own personalities and made there own decisions, they were like their own individuals. I still cant believe it when i made eye contact (or what i thought was eye contact) with the one elf.  He just stared at me, im assuming wondering what i was doing there, and then just went on his way dancing. 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 22 May 2013, 13:31:11
hey alll....

just recieved my 2gr changa from asylum... what is the proper dose?? 100mg?? i guess will smoke with a regular pipe tonight and report??? i am so glad they got here .... direct flames is ok right!! unlike dmt freebase!!

peace
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bandeto962 on 22 May 2013, 14:48:50
Took a couple weeks off and think I'm going to start giving a breakthrough another try tonight. Hoping I have better luck this time around!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 22 May 2013, 18:25:36
hey alll....

just recieved my 2gr changa from asylum... what is the proper dose?? 100mg?? i guess will smoke with a regular pipe tonight and report??? i am so glad they got here .... direct flames is ok right!! unlike dmt freebase!!

peace

Given that typical changa is 40 to 50% then 100mg should give you a breakthru dose.
I would start lower just to see how it is, but I am a cautious one.
Take care!
IM
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 22 May 2013, 19:34:34
hey alll....

just recieved my 2gr changa from asylum... what is the proper dose?? 100mg?? i guess will smoke with a regular pipe tonight and report??? i am so glad they got here .... direct flames is ok right!! unlike dmt freebase!!

peace

Asylum's changa is 50% DMT (20% white and 30% dmt oxide/jungle spice) - 100mg will get you a 50mg DMT dose.

I personally prefer a small water bong for changa so I can get it all down in 1 hit. 

The first time I tried it, I was careful about direct flame - but shared some with a friend who hit it like weed (flame till it pulls through) and he was gone 26mins, so I figure it doesn't matter too much.
Maybe start with indirect flame, then torch as needed to clear the bowl?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 22 May 2013, 21:54:44
hey alll....

just recieved my 2gr changa from asylum... what is the proper dose?? 100mg?? i guess will smoke with a regular pipe tonight and report??? i am so glad they got here .... direct flames is ok right!! unlike dmt freebase!!

peace

Asylum's changa is 50% DMT (20% white and 30% dmt oxide/jungle spice) - 100mg will get you a 50mg DMT dose.

I personally prefer a small water bong for changa so I can get it all down in 1 hit. 

The first time I tried it, I was careful about direct flame - but shared some with a friend who hit it like weed (flame till it pulls through) and he was gone 26mins, so I figure it doesn't matter too much.
Maybe start with indirect flame, then torch as needed to clear the bowl?

Can this be smoked just like a cigarette? Like put a gram in one cigarette and share among a group of 10-12 people?

Just a thought about group entertainment. Like in the old days people (mostly in the village) used to use hookah for tobacco smoking in a group setting.


In principle, yes, but would you want to turn this into a group entertainment?
In a cigarette as well you might have difficulty dosing well with first people having to have several tokes and the last person probably needing just a bit.
I am not sure I would go for it though.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 22 May 2013, 22:27:17
hey alll....

just recieved my 2gr changa from asylum... what is the proper dose?? 100mg?? i guess will smoke with a regular pipe tonight and report??? i am so glad they got here .... direct flames is ok right!! unlike dmt freebase!!

peace

Asylum's changa is 50% DMT (20% white and 30% dmt oxide/jungle spice) - 100mg will get you a 50mg DMT dose.

I personally prefer a small water bong for changa so I can get it all down in 1 hit. 

The first time I tried it, I was careful about direct flame - but shared some with a friend who hit it like weed (flame till it pulls through) and he was gone 26mins, so I figure it doesn't matter too much.
Maybe start with indirect flame, then torch as needed to clear the bowl?

Can this be smoked just like a cigarette? Like put a gram in one cigarette and share among a group of 10-12 people?

Just a thought about group entertainment. Like in the old days people (mostly in the village) used to use hookah for tobacco smoking in a group setting.


In principle, yes, but would you want to turn this into a group entertainment?
In a cigarette as well you might have difficulty dosing well with first people having to have several tokes and the last person probably needing just a bit.
I am not sure I would go for it though.

@IM - I have so many thoughts going on in my mind. Once I have a handle on DMT and Changa I might have a group event in about 3-4 months time (if everything goes as plan with other things in my life). I am thinking about DMT + Changa session as the trips are short lasting and people can share there experiences just after the events within a span of one evening or so. It would be really cool to have such sessions. So, as for the execution I am thinking of ways how to do it. I can have a Volcano for this or find other less expensive methods. I keep mentioning about hookah as I have easy access to such tools. But smoking like cigarette is also feasible it seems.

I myself tried the Changa once about few days ago and I think it can be a very good for group entertainment. But I could be as I am totally inexperienced in this hyperspace traveling. You guys know better and thus exploring the ideas with you all.


Seems like a cool idea to me, but I am thinking of a setting where you can truly enjoy your trip while being together with a lot of people. When I did ayahusca for the first time setting for this type of affair was great - in nature, having matrasses arranged in a circle, bunch of candles in the middle and a request of an absolute silence. It was great! Ayahusca was a bit dodgy, so I am not going back, but if you can create something like that it might work very well. Personally, I think that dark or twilight is best, no music (as someone has written somewhere - DMT plays to its own tune) and other people keeping silence too.
Here is an idea, why wont you try pharmahuasca with them - should be about 2-3 hours, allows everyone to dose together, depth of the trip can be really good too. Get some syrian rue and DMT (ideally fumerate) and off you go :)

If you want to smoke I would still not do it with a cigarette as you will waste a lot between people and hits, it might be better to just reload your machine or bong and do people one by one.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: canuckboy on 22 May 2013, 22:27:51
Update: 

Vendor  pimpit came through.!   I got everything as he promised.

I made a post a few weeks back about pimpit not delivering and making me go through resolutions.  He contacted me and made good. 
He's a straight up vendor as far as I'm concerned.  Very adult and professional for contacting me and working it out.

As for his gear: 

- very good quality
- looks pure
- broke through on about 60mg with a shitty pipe as a tester

Looks good.

Thanks everyone for your time.   Sorry to interrupt your thread.  It was the only search result for pimpit . 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 23 May 2013, 00:59:26
thanx all fr the tips  :)

here is a very intresting read about changa:

http://changa.esotericpharma.org/p/technology-of-sacred.html?m=1
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bobsredmill on 23 May 2013, 02:02:56
does anyone have experience with low dose benzos before a DMT experience? i generally don't take benzos unless it's for serious tachycardia or social anxiety, also to come down from particularly exhausting trips. i have experience with valium before LSD and although it did dull the experience a bit, i had zero anxiety and a beautiful headspace accompanied by amazing visuals.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 23 May 2013, 02:05:05
I am thinking about DMT + Changa session as the trips are short lasting and people can share there experiences just after the events within a span of one evening or so. It would be really cool to have such sessions. So, as for the execution I am thinking of ways how to do it. I can have a Volcano for this or find other less expensive methods. I keep mentioning about hookah as I have easy access to such tools. But smoking like cigarette is also feasible it seems.

I am totally inexperienced with changa, but as incogmagnito said, the dynamics of smoking it in a cigarette seem very non-ideal.  It isn't like cannabis where the whole group can gradually get high together---each person would have to take a full dose before passing it.  To me, this makes the idea lose its speculative advantage over smoking in a pipe or hookah.

I know some have written about smoking DMT with others present ... but it is NOT a social high (as is LSD, for instance).  I've never tried DMT with people around, because people tend to be too noisy and distracting---they ruin the mood---but I did try smoking salvia with others (the largest group was myself and three friends).  As soon as the drug hits, each of you goes off into your own universe.  There's no communal aspect to the trip, and you'll find if you do this with others who aren't very experienced, many of you will not be able verbalise the experience for a discussion right afterward.

I don't mean to discourage you from trying this, but do manage your expectations as to what will come of the the group versus the individual experiences.

@canuckboy: Thank you for updating us.  Your report may have been the thing that motivated me to do something about pimpit, but it was mostly the info from brokentoes (about half of which I can verify) which put him on the 'bad' list.  I'm glad he worked out the issues on your order, but until he decides to be more honest about his operation, he won't be going back to the 'good' list.  Since you like the DMT you received, consider making your next order (whenever that is) with Asylum ... brokentoes is a good contributing member around here, but it'd still be best to get an independent verification that it is indeed the same DMT pimpit sells.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 23 May 2013, 02:11:35
has anyone experimented with different ways to crystallize DMT from their solvent of choice? i generally go STB and then wash it a few times but recently i decided to run a few extra pulls on what some people would consider spent bark/lye solution and tried crystallizing it in different ways. so far i've done STB, freeze precipitated, STB and a slow evaporation at room temperature which yields much more elaborate crystal as well as the extra pulls on "spent" bark which seems to take about 24 hours between pulls for separation, yields much darker naphtha and when freeze precipitated takes significantly longer but forms crystals about the size and shape of a BB.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 23 May 2013, 02:42:38
has anyone experimented with different ways to crystallize DMT from their solvent of choice? i generally go STB and then wash it a few times but recently i decided to run a few extra pulls on what some people would consider spent bark/lye solution and tried crystallizing it in different ways. so far i've done STB, freeze precipitated, STB and a slow evaporation at room temperature which yields much more elaborate crystal as well as the extra pulls on "spent" bark which seems to take about 24 hours between pulls for separation, yields much darker naphtha and when freeze precipitated takes significantly longer but forms crystals about the size and shape of a BB.

Freeze precipitation is quick and good if you want to recycle your solvent.  At the end of the extraction, if you care about getting all the DMT out of your solvent you HAVE to evaporate.  My naphtha is finally almost all the way dry, and I see it has left me spike balls of crystal about 1/4" in diameter.  Let us know how your BB's turn out.  Do you pull with anything other than naphtha?  Do you recrystallise your product?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 23 May 2013, 02:50:00
When I started getting into DMT, I smoked/vaped it with a partner. We were always extremely courteous to each other and used the utmost respect during the entire process, as well as being absolutely silent as soon as the tripper is off. I think this is necessary. To be honest, I don't mind doing with a partner, provided it is someone whom I trust 100% and I know that they respect the molecule as well as me.

Then after we have both had our trips we discuss them. I don't think I'd do this with more than just a partner.

But with GSE's proposal in mind, I have heard of people doing this exact thing, but each just getting the nice, warm body high that you get from a really low dose. I have not personally done this, and agree that it's almost just worth it in my mind to smoke some bud, but if you're looking for something different, go for it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DMTisinME on 23 May 2013, 03:15:40
When I started getting into DMT, I smoked/vaped it with a partner. We were always extremely courteous to each other and used the utmost respect during the entire process, as well as being absolutely silent as soon as the tripper is off. I think this is necessary. To be honest, I don't mind doing with a partner, provided it is someone whom I trust 100% and I know that they respect the molecule as well as me.

Then after we have both had our trips we discuss them. I don't think I'd do this with more than just a partner.

But with GSE's proposal in mind, I have heard of people doing this exact thing, but each just getting the nice, warm body high that you get from a really low dose. I have not personally done this, and agree that it's almost just worth it in my mind to smoke some bud, but if you're looking for something different, go for it.

I never smoked weed yet. But I have experienced Cannabis Edibles some dozen times and I like the effect a lot.

Really? That's almost amazing to hear.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 23 May 2013, 03:21:22
I would love to chime in on group DMT sessions, and i would have to say they are GREAT for beginners and people who are uneasy with their first blast off.

I use the volcano, so i put anywhere from .2-.3 in the chamber and share it between 3-4 people, depending who wants to go.  U gotta use a bigger bag but not too big as it will just pointlessly fill with air.

But i have to say, the one trip i did with my friends i felt like i warped up millions of miles high and i could see this huge scape of stars and galaxies...as i returned i was greeted by entities of some sort.

IDK when but i remember reaching out and actually grabbing my buddy and saying i think i am back now, and he started laughing so hard and said so was he.

I have to say the experience is really fun if the person respects the molecule like DMTisinME said.  But my pet peeve is for someone to start moving or talking when someone is blasting off.

It just ruins it i think.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 23 May 2013, 03:50:27
does anyone have experience with low dose benzos before a DMT experience? i generally don't take benzos unless it's for serious tachycardia or social anxiety, also to come down from particularly exhausting trips. i have experience with valium before LSD and although it did dull the experience a bit, i had zero anxiety and a beautiful headspace accompanied by amazing visuals.

I don't have an answer but if you try a benzo+DMT then I would be curious to hear your results.  That's also informative that LSD still worked for you after a benzo.  I have crazy anxiety to almost all of these drugs that I've tried except for MDMA/MDA.  MDMA had been the cure for me but I would like some other options.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 23 May 2013, 03:57:22
I never smoked weed yet.

I haven't either and was thinking about this today.  There are so many options on weed and so many ways to smoke it I'm not sure where I would start.

I did smoke jwh-018 several times and it didn't do anything for me.  I offered it to others it was very effective for them.  I took pretty large doses too.  I'd eventually get nauseated.  I wonder if it would help pull out psychedelic effects though even though I didn't notice anything.

seems like smoking something while tripping might be kinda fun (DMT breakthroughs excluded of course) be it weed, a synthetic blend, or just something to smoke that isn't a drug.  Maybe something with a thick smoke.

I really don't know.  if you figure out where to start them I'd like to know though.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 23 May 2013, 05:49:09
has anyone experimented with different ways to crystallize DMT from their solvent of choice? i generally go STB and then wash it a few times but recently i decided to run a few extra pulls on what some people would consider spent bark/lye solution and tried crystallizing it in different ways. so far i've done STB, freeze precipitated, STB and a slow evaporation at room temperature which yields much more elaborate crystal as well as the extra pulls on "spent" bark which seems to take about 24 hours between pulls for separation, yields much darker naphtha and when freeze precipitated takes significantly longer but forms crystals about the size and shape of a BB.

Freeze precipitation is quick and good if you want to recycle your solvent.  At the end of the extraction, if you care about getting all the DMT out of your solvent you HAVE to evaporate.  My naphtha is finally almost all the way dry, and I see it has left me spike balls of crystal about 1/4" in diameter.  Let us know how your BB's turn out.  Do you pull with anything other than naphtha?  Do you recrystallise your product?

i've toyed with the idea of xylene extractions for jungle spice but i haven't had the time or space to evaporate large amounts of solvent but i have quite a bit of naphtha that seems to be almost saturated so i'll have to evaporate it outside or something. i usually recrystallize at least once after i've washed the dmt/naphtha solution with sodium carbonate and freeze precipitated but if it comes out clean without recrystallizing i might skip it. seems certain batches of MHRB yield a lot but with more oil/wax requiring recrystallization whereas others pull to bright white while yielding considerably less.

i'll be sure to report back when i have the BB type crystals dried out and ready to experiment with ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 23 May 2013, 06:07:03
I don't have an answer but if you try a benzo+DMT then I would be curious to hear your results.  That's also informative that LSD still worked for you after a benzo.  I have crazy anxiety to almost all of these drugs that I've tried except for MDMA/MDA.  MDMA had been the cure for me but I would like some other options.

I don't know about benzos ... you can look it up under drug interactions on dmt-nexus.  See this post where moonflower claims MXE helps with anxiety:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=130501.msg1119608#msg1119608
I have not tried MXE (or K), but I have some coming.  Anxiety isn't really my problem, but I've been reading good things about the DMT-MXE combo here and on dmt-nexus, and figured I'd give it a try.  I'll post results when I do.

On another note: I've been meaning to write about a series of trips I had a few nights ago.  I have to think that many of you can relate to what I call the 'mirror paradox'.  For those who don't, I'll attempt a description.  The way I'm tempted to verbalise this paradox is "If you don't exist, and you look in the mirror, what do you see?" ... but this is nonsense.  It's like you're looking at your reflection and searching in your eyes for the spark of awareness; you look deeper and deeper in, and find nothing ... but then what found nothing?  This becomes a fractal-like process, but as you can see, the description has the potential to become very silly like a freshman philosophy class discussion.

The better way of stating the paradox is: if you have two nested spheres, the inner one mirrored on the outside and the outer mirrored on the inside, what image appears on the surface of the mirrors?  Of course this could also be stated without reference to mirrors, but the concept of a reflection is integral to the way this paradox manifests in my DMT experiences.  The point is: looking for something unknowable can create anything imaginable, and getting trapped in the 'mirror paradox' creates what I call 'mirror creatures'.  Others would call them 'elves' ... but that word is too general: different 'elves' have different natures, and I choose to distinguish them.

My first (and only planned) trip involved the mirror paradox.  I experienced the paradox without actually getting 'caught' in it this time.  I made a mirror creature, but had seen all of this so many times before that I 'knew' it was a trick, and pulled myself out of the paradox (this is not totally true either, but the only way I ever leave this paradox it to realise it's a 'trick').  As I backed out of the mirror, I found myself in a sort of plaza which was full of people (or 'elves') holding up mirrors.  It was like a carnival where the 'mirror paradox' was the only game.

I didn't care to get trapped in that paradox, so I looked about for something else to go see.  I saw a man walking toward me, and looked at him with the question "where do I go next?"  He pointed off to my left, in a direction where I couldn't see anything, and then turned into a fish.  This was the end of the 'breakthrough' stage.  I felt as though I'd been about to push past the mirror paradox and experience something new when the trip ended, and so I was fairly unsatisfied with the experience.  As I was coming down, this dissatisfaction led to me questioning whether my spice might be weaker than I'd previously thought (I was smoking my own extract), despite the fact that the trip had not been weak.

I did not even wait to come all the way down before I started smoking again.  I normally wait at least an hour, but I was still mildly tripping when I took a second hit.  Possibly because of this, I held the lighter to the pipe for too long, and the salvia in the pipe ignited.  It was already saturated in DMT, and I knew I was burning up spice ... but I couldn't do anything about it, and breathed in the excess smoke in three lungfuls while trying not to cherry the ember.  My frustration at wasting DMT became a vague nagging sense of annoyance during the salvia trip that followed.  Again, this was otherwise a totally good and normal salvia trip ... but having burned my spice only compounded my dissatisfaction with the experience, and so I pushed off a third time again during comedown (I was thinking I wanted to see if any DMT had survived the burn, as though that were a good reason).

I did indeed get a good amount of DMT vapour from this third attempt.  I had initially loaded 44mg of my refined extract, and I figure I probably burned up about 1.5--2 doses worth.  My last attempt of the night was the most successful ... it struck a very good balance between DMT and salvia, and was much warmer feeling than the previous two.  I had sort of the opposite of the 'mirror paradox', where as the quirks and inflections of my imagined identity fell away, I continually found myself---my own awareness which is my only true essence and also unchangeable---I always come back to 'me', this whole reality experiment is completely safe, and none of the trivial details of my experience matter in the least.

Anyway, there are a couple of conclusions to be drawn.  I previously believed there was a short-term DMT-to-DMT tolerance because I had not had success with immediate redosing and had read other accounts to this effect.  Although, DMT was mostly absent from the middle trip, I experienced no cross-tolerance between the first and third trips, and suspect the effects of redosing are more idiosyncratic than can be captured in a 'tolerance' statement.  I do seem to get some strange impressions on the comedown sometimes, but compulsively redosing without even touching down in between is probably not a great idea, tolerance concerns or no.  Also: despite bungling up and burning my spice on the second attempt, there was a good amount left unburnt, which makes me think it's more resilient than I'd previously thought.

@slirp,GSE: Vaping is definitely better.  I prefer hash, because I can just vapourise this from the same oil pipe I use for DMT without the need for a fancy vape (yes, that first hit is EXTRA interesting -_o).  One thing that's available on the road which I've yet to try (but am very curious to) is ice-o-lator hash.  This seems to be the purest vaped THC experience available.  I think cannabis is worth doing ... but not on the regular.  It's also nice to see people getting into the really good shit (such as DMT) without having to go through stonerdom first.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 23 May 2013, 08:00:40
I never smoked weed yet.

I haven't either and was thinking about this today.  There are so many options on weed and so many ways to smoke it I'm not sure where I would start.

I did smoke jwh-018 several times and it didn't do anything for me.  I offered it to others it was very effective for them.  I took pretty large doses too.  I'd eventually get nauseated.  I wonder if it would help pull out psychedelic effects though even though I didn't notice anything.

seems like smoking something while tripping might be kinda fun (DMT breakthroughs excluded of course) be it weed, a synthetic blend, or just something to smoke that isn't a drug.  Maybe something with a thick smoke.

I really don't know.  if you figure out where to start them I'd like to know though.

This is surprising to read, gentlemen ... Not bad or weird, but surprising. In fact - I am jealous of the order of things you start smoking with.
If I look back then I remember that when I started smoking I had trouble inhaling smoke and my tokes of cigarette were rather shallow. I think this must have been Mother Nature's way of protecting me from something as evil and useless as nicotine. I digress, but the point here is that smoking itself is a bit of a skill.

One thing that changed my smoking was learning a word "to bogart", which I had to look up in a dictionary. That led to watching Casablanca and few other movies with Bogart. But I digress again. To get your lungs used in full you should not be thinking of smoking but simply making a deep breath starting from totally empty lungs and do it in one go without letting smoke stay in your mouth and then "swallowing" it.

And do not smoke cigs ... Weed is better, but as you have already discovered edibles and sublinguals do give you the same effect.

Take care,
IM
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DayDreamer on 23 May 2013, 08:57:42
DMT review - 3 vendors


I have received a 100 mg sample of DMT from MaidMandy 3 days ago.
So far, I have only ordered DMT from 2 vendors before this one : JoR, Mahakala.
I had a chance to sample JoR's source A and source B DMT, sometime around Jan/Feb/March.
Unfortunately, i have none of JoR's DMT left, to make a visual comparison.


Following is a comparitive review of JoR, MaidMandy and Mahakala, in terms of the product, packaging, stealth and customer service.

Product Quality:
Let the pic do the talking :

http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/79s.jpg


As you can see, Mahakala's DMT is much darker.
In comparison, JoR's DMT is somewhere inbetween the 2 samples in the pic, but closer to yellow than brown.
MM's DMT seems to be the cleanest of all. Can't wait to smoke it, but i doubt i have a window of opportunity at least till the weekend.

Mahakala's DMT was the one i smoked the most, and had some of the most profound trips. JoR's DMT i mostly used to experiment, but i did have a few small "walks in the park" on it.
JoR's Source A DMT is the only one that has produced beautiful organic electric fractals, that kept alternating from organic to mechanical and back to organic.
All other trips only produced mechanical fractals, and a lot of introspection on the comedown.


Packaging and stealth:

All vendors use very similar stealth methods. However, I like Mahakala's and MaidMandy's stealth techniques much better.
All use MBB's ( not sure if what mahakala uses are MBB's, but they definitely do a good job).
In comparison to JoR's stealth, MM uses at least 3 additional layers of security. Mahakala uses 2 more. I won't go into more detail.
All 3 use printed labels, professional "business mail" envelopes and return address labels.

Of all 3, i think JoR's packaging needs a bit of work. In One of the orders received from him, I could feel the product inside.
Not a big deal to most. The package arrived safely , no problem. However, i prefer to assume that every order I place gets checked and has a high chance of being inspected/opened.
JoR's Packaging may not stand up to such inspection, whereas MM and Mahakala's have a much higher chance of just being sealed back up and sent along.


Communication:
MaidMandy is very polite, and seems like a genuinely nice person from the few PM's we have exchanged prior to placing an order.

JoR is very funny! :D . I love their team, friendly forum presence, etc. I do not think i need to go on. Everyone knows him.

Mahakala : Professional, polite, but i have not interacted much with them.

Post placing an order, no communication was needed with any vendor at all. Just sit back and patiently wait for the postman to ring the doorbell!



EXPERIENCE:
All My adventures with DMT have been very carefully planned and executed. It took time to get used to it, and to get my mind into a state where i do not fear it any more.
Respect for this drug has taught me control over other drugs. I have since managed to control the urge to snort a line of coke, roll on MDMA or have that extra drink of whiskey.

It has taught me self-control, has made me understand emotions, feelings, and their importance in human interactions and relations. It has helped me discover things about myself i never knew before!
I feel like a newborn child that has just started a new life! Truly the most amazing psychedelic in existence.
None of this would have happened if it wasn't for Silk Road. I have learnt SOOOOOOO much about harm reduction, safety, RoA's for various drugs. There is no better place to get first hand information on drugs.
I have never visited bluelight. I didn't know of its existence till i found Silk Road!


Anyways, that's all for now. I am very tempted to smoke MM's DMT, but i have learnt the hard way to be patient, and to respect psychedelics, so i will not hurry.

Cheers.

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 23 May 2013, 09:22:35
Well the thing that I learn about smoking DMT vapor is that just take the toke in one go and at the end close the lips and push all the vapor from mouth inward but not shallow. Because by shallowing a bit of DMT will go into the stomach and that can cause nausea. Well, at least, that has been my experience!

This could be the problem.  You should inhale the vapour directly into your lungs.  Don't chamber the hit it your mouth first---your mouth has a much smaller capacity than your lungs.  The pull should come from your diaphram and the idea is to fill your lungs completely.   It isn't like a cigarette that you can puff at with your cheeks and hold the smoke in your mouth before inhaling---just take it straight down into your lungs.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DayDreamer on 23 May 2013, 10:09:55
This could be the problem.  You should inhale the vapour directly into your lungs.  Don't chamber the hit it your mouth first---your mouth has a much smaller capacity than your lungs.  The pull should come from your diaphram and the idea is to fill your lungs completely.   It isn't like a cigarette that you can puff at with your cheeks and hold the smoke in your mouth before inhaling---just take it straight down into your lungs.

Yup.
I had to learn and practice a breathing technique to correctly inhale the vapor, as well as to be able to breathe comfortably while tripping.
I find that on DMT, breathing becomes a voluntary act that needs conscious effort.. Also, having to take a breath kind of distracts me from the trip, which i find very annoying!

I use a small steel one-hitter pipe. Put some ash, put the DMT on top and cover it with 3 layers of metal mesh, then heat the mesh with a lighter, and as soon as it turns red hot, start pulling slowly, like pulling air into your lungs through a straw.
30 seconds is all it takes..
Take your time, experiment, explore, and be safe.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 23 May 2013, 19:31:20
That's right, GGA. That's what I meant and do. But still you will have a bit of vapor in the mouth before stopping to take anymore. So, I am talking about that bit not to shallow. Because I did shallow couple of times and felt strong nausea and then had to practice breathing with mouth and make sure I don't shallow it.

Oh, I see.  I guess I misunderstood.  If you time it right, you don't need to end up with smoke in your mouth.  Because the mechanics seem to be an issue for many people, I'm going to add a careful description of my smoking technique to the smoking methods section of the OP.  I'm hoping others will do similarly for the other devices on the list (which I'll then copy to the OP), so a first-timer can read exactly what to do for their method of choice.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 23 May 2013, 20:07:31
Oh, I see.  I guess I misunderstood.  If you time it right, you don't need to end up with smoke in your mouth.  Because the mechanics seem to be an issue for many people, I'm going to add a careful description of my smoking technique to the smoking methods section of the OP.  I'm hoping others will do similarly for the other devices on the list (which I'll then copy to the OP), so a first-timer can read exactly what to do for their method of choice.

These are the instructions for The Machine I wrote some time ago. I could have been more detailed but I tried to make them as concise as possible, so more people actually read them.

Quote
Smoking instructions:

It's called smoking but it's actually vaporising. The difference lies in temperature. At the right temperature, the DMT turns into vapour and you inhale the vapour. Which gives you the effects. On the other hand, if temperature is too high (for example, if the DMT gets touched by a flame), the DMT burns and you end up inhaling smoke. Which doesn't give you any effects.

Also, inhaling more vapor than you can actually hold in is counterproductive as it makes you exhale too fast. Provided you didn't burn it, all the 'smoke' that goes up in the air is actually DMT. 15 seconds should be enough time for your lungs to absorb all the DMT (depends on the size of the hit, though), although some people prefer to take a second hit without exhaling the first one to be sure.

(Remove the screw cap if present.) Point the neck of the pipe downwards and heat the DMT with a flame from below but don't let the flame actually touch the DMT. Inhale slowly from the other side, taking care not to inhale more than you can actually hold in. Hold it in for at least 15 seconds, exhale if you have to (preferably not) and take another hit. If you did it properly, only 2 hits are needed to 'break through'.

Loading instructions:

(Remove the screw cap if present.) Put a blank A4 sheet on the table and put the pipe on it with the neck up and place the required amount of DMT (100mg is good for first­ timers, although you need only 50mg for a hit if you've mastered the smoking technique) on the copper mesh and melt the DMT by heating with a flame from above. If it doesn't melt, touch it very briefly with the flame a couple of times. It doesn't necessarily need to be melted completely into the copper mesh: you only need to transform it from crystals or powder to sticky goo. Now you can pick up all the DMT you spilt and load it into the pipe as well. The pipe is ready to use.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 24 May 2013, 01:01:37
@ GoodShitExplorer, Sorry to take so long to respond my brother, but in regards to your question i can give you some very clear instructions.

First i wanna say i do not work for storez and bickel (the company that makes the volcano) but i will endorse this product as much as i endorse DMT.

For starters, you are correct, vaporizing weed is like 99% (exaggeration) less harmful to you.  This is because there is no chemical reaction of burning materials, thus means no carcinogens and other tar baddyness.

The volcano merely heats up the chamber with really hot air and passes it through a chamber which  "vaporizes" the THC allowing it to flow into the bag which you can somewhat leisurely smoke.

You don't wanna leave it too long as it will dissipate onto the bag.  But you can definitely chill on it for a good 5 -10 min.


Now i am changing my topic to DMT and the volcano.

How can i put this in a good reference...the GVG was like the Caddilac of DMT smoking, and the volcano is like the god damn Ferrari.

No joke, i have 0 residue in the chamber after i fill the bag.  I literally only put .05 in there and sprinkle just a pinch of weed. Nothing more than a couple flakes to absorb any liquefaction that occurs.

The bag size i use is any basic oven bag you can buy at your local grocery store.  Besides these are WAY cheaper than the official volcano bags.

Usually when smoking DMT through the volcano, i let one person go at a time.  Like i said i put about .05g or 50mg and then fill the entire bag.

Unless you are a fucking crazy psychonaut, you wont be able to finish the bag.  this shit hits you so hard and so fast you are grasping onto reality just to take your third hit.

Now i understand this might sound like a con, but trust me, if you man up and dedicate your self, you can kill that bag in 4 good rips.

As for the trip itself, everybody and myself have deemed the volcano the ONLY device to truly smoke DMT.

Every time i smoke it i never have to worry about actually lifting off, and the visuals are absolutely stunning.

So to summarize:

It wastes hardly nothing,

Less impulsive to smoke immediately,

Less harmful for you,

and a great star ship to travel the heavens and beyond.

See you all in Hyperspace friends!  8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Japan1980 on 25 May 2013, 01:41:13
@ GoodShitExplorer, Sorry to take so long to respond my brother, but in regards to your question i can give you some very clear instructions.

First i wanna say i do not work for storez and bickel (the company that makes the volcano) but i will endorse this product as much as i endorse DMT.

For starters, you are correct, vaporizing weed is like 99% (exaggeration) less harmful to you.  This is because there is no chemical reaction of burning materials, thus means no carcinogens and other tar baddyness.

The volcano merely heats up the chamber with really hot air and passes it through a chamber which  "vaporizes" the THC allowing it to flow into the bag which you can somewhat leisurely smoke.

You don't wanna leave it too long as it will dissipate onto the bag.  But you can definitely chill on it for a good 5 -10 min.


Now i am changing my topic to DMT and the volcano.

How can i put this in a good reference...the GVG was like the Caddilac of DMT smoking, and the volcano is like the god damn Ferrari.

No joke, i have 0 residue in the chamber after i fill the bag.  I literally only put .05 in there and sprinkle just a pinch of weed. Nothing more than a couple flakes to absorb any liquefaction that occurs.

The bag size i use is any basic oven bag you can buy at your local grocery store.  Besides these are WAY cheaper than the official volcano bags.

Usually when smoking DMT through the volcano, i let one person go at a time.  Like i said i put about .05g or 50mg and then fill the entire bag.

Unless you are a fucking crazy psychonaut, you wont be able to finish the bag.  this shit hits you so hard and so fast you are grasping onto reality just to take your third hit.

Now i understand this might sound like a con, but trust me, if you man up and dedicate your self, you can kill that bag in 4 good rips.

As for the trip itself, everybody and myself have deemed the volcano the ONLY device to truly smoke DMT.

Every time i smoke it i never have to worry about actually lifting off, and the visuals are absolutely stunning.

So to summarize:

It wastes hardly nothing,

Less impulsive to smoke immediately,

Less harmful for you,

and a great star ship to travel the heavens and beyond.

See you all in Hyperspace friends!  8)

Good post +1
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 25 May 2013, 02:23:32
OMFG!  127mg MXE insufflated + 20--25mg DMT vapourised = harmonic nirvana
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 25 May 2013, 02:49:55
On SR I've heard that some well known psychonauts have died in their travels but sometimes I wonder if they've simply left us and gone somewhere else.

I think they might have books or writings.  I need to lookup psychonautic literature.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bobsredmill on 25 May 2013, 03:39:33
On SR I've heard that some well known psychonauts have died in their travels but sometimes I wonder if they've simply left us and gone somewhere else.

I think they might have books or writings.  I need to lookup psychonautic literature.

do you mean psychonauts in general or from this community? D.M. Turner drowned in a bathtub high on ketamine.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 25 May 2013, 03:50:16
OMFG!  127mg MXE insufflated + 20--25mg DMT vapourised = harmonic nirvana

I'm mostly down now.  I don't have much to add.  Just copying my feedback for my MXE vendor (Tunbear) here:
"WOW! Potent stuff! Amazing trans-Atlantic ship time! Ordered 2g, received 2.13g (thanx for the extra bag for calibration). I've never used MXE before, but I heard good things about DMT + MXE. I tried it, and SAW awareness, and became a vibration, and found Nirvana. Literally. I'm not sure I'm ready to be human again."
Needless to say, I highly recommend this combination.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 25 May 2013, 06:39:14
OMFG!  127mg MXE insufflated + 20--25mg DMT vapourised = harmonic nirvana

I'm mostly down now.  I don't have much to add.  Just copying my feedback for my MXE vendor (Tunbear) here:
"WOW! Potent stuff! Amazing trans-Atlantic ship time! Ordered 2g, received 2.13g (thanx for the extra bag for calibration). I've never used MXE before, but I heard good things about DMT + MXE. I tried it, and SAW awareness, and became a vibration, and found Nirvana. Literally. I'm not sure I'm ready to be human again."
Needless to say, I highly recommend this combination.

@GGA, thank you for sharing and +1 for going where no cheese has gone before! :-)
I have not touched dissociatives since LSD + ketamine that resulted in 1 billion deaths too many, so I know that you can seriously power up the effects of psychedelics by turning off external stimuli, but hence questions below:
1. What's the sequence and times?
2 judging by your posts the trip was about 1.5 hours, right? What's the split into come-up, peak, coming down?
3. I presume you are out for the bulk of the trip, right?
4. DMT does not really have after-effects for me. Does this combo have any?
5. Knowing you you have done your research :-) how is this with MAOI?

Much obliged!!!
IM
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: chemdog on 25 May 2013, 17:13:21
Hello Deemsters

I have mixed up a batch of DMT that I would like to submit to the team for sample sake.  :)

There are four 60mg samples available. Pictures and further details I can post later if there is any interest?

Namaste
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: i3lazd on 25 May 2013, 17:25:02
Hello Deemsters

I have mixed up a batch of DMT that I would like to submit to the team for sample sake.  :)

There are four 60mg samples available. Pictures and further details I can post later if there is any interest?

Namaste

interested. let me know
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 26 May 2013, 21:37:22
hey guys, i just got my g from bigblack and i felt the need to come on here and just give a comparison of a few vendors.

okay so first off, i've gotten dmt from rogerpete, moonunit, elvis(jungle spice), and bigblack.

they all have decent packaging, with rogerpete and moonunit being a little bit better in that area.
communication with mu, bb, and rp is always good. elvis is usually pretty friendly and helpful but can be a bit weird to talk to.(asked him a question that he blatantly avoided and it really bothered me)

now here is the exciting part, the product.

rogerpetes=very clean and pure, nothing worrying about it and the body high is very managable/euphoric.
it provides a very smooth transition to hyperspace. <50 mgs provides a full blast.

bigblack=more potent and physical dmt. the body high is pretty intense and i found the lift-off from his product to be more abrupt and chaotic.(while holding in the first hit a loud frequency rings in my ears and i begin to get overrun with emotions and visuals.) <50 mgs provides a full blast, but i suspect that this might be mg for mg more potent because of other alkaloids in it.(this is the only kind that i dont really want to hit more than 3 times, as its completely unnecessary)

moonunit=very middle of the road in this case. it has more of a heavy body high than rp's, but its not nearly as intense as bigblacks. very clean dmt and it has always been hard on me in terms of lessons, yet it is very loving and caring at the same time. yet again, 50 mgs is more than enough.

elvis=i bought his jungle spice, so i cant compare it here.(and hes not selling it any more anyways  :P )

so basically rogerpetes dmt seems the more pure and smooth ride, with big blacks being the most intense and moonunits being a sort of mesh of the two.

i hope this helps some fellow silk roaders make a decision on their next dmt purchase  ;)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 26 May 2013, 23:18:37

elvis=i bought his jungle spice, so i cant compare it here.(and hes not selling it any more anyways  :P )


Do tell though. I have some stashed I have actually been afraid to try after one terrifying trip I had mixed 15mg into with some of Tree of Liberty's amazing spice. The only time I felt possessed by an entity and it was not nice. Thinking I want to finish the bag but I have not read a trip report that tells me anything about a good hyperspace sized rip of the jungle. Please share or PM me!

I also want to know what the best freebase storage method is for some remnants of a gram I want to share with someone special I won't see for three or four months. Vacuum seal and freeze OK? Please answer if you actually know and are not just theorizing for a +1

Now for my news. I tried a tek with ACRB. The usual story of gooey clear precip. Gonna evap for a few days and see if it smells right. Prob to high in NMT to crystalize. Doing a last try with THICK-LIGHT's tek from the nexus but most likely the last because the time and effort with all my IRL shit means it cuts into time with folks who need me present. Makes me respect the effort the good vendors put into their work. Cheers to you, you know who you are!

NEW TRIP REPORTS: Both amazing, one a harsh teaching, one a beautiful fun ride. Same vendor two batches.

May 5 2013 MU's older tan batch.
DMT DIARY 5-5-2013

We'll call this one a lesson in poisons. Earlier I tried to vaporize 61mg of MU spice. I got a very loud high pitched cinewave effect. Nothing very visual except at first with closed eyes. Vine serpent, malicious coming for me. Opened my eyes quickly.  Sad thoughts about my older daughters and my feelings of distance. i feel an itch on my left arm and reach to scratch it and the wave stops but so does everything else except the "eh" kind of feeling. All together kind of a bummer. So I made some tea read sow of the DMT lexicon to learn about the cinewave, prayed about my kids and went to the couch to hit the machine again with no spice added, just whatever residuals inhabit the machine. One freaking hit and I was completely unable to see the end of the pipe to light it again and the room fills completely with these glowing cartoonish ghost dogs. they looked exactly alike. literally I cannot see anything else there are so many. I blink my eyes quickly and they begin to thin with every blink and suddenly I am in a game. on the table in front of me are like 3d flash cards with every poison imaginable. Stop to long and feel its effect. acknowledge and blink and the effect goes from one to the next poison. I am wondering if the jungle nature of this spice has anything to do with it. Again the Yuremamine question hits my mind. I look to the left and my demon face painting looks at me as if shrugging and wishing me luck surviving the game. Rotten foods, stomach tightens, nausea, blink next card... Poison nuts and berries are there and I make a decision to withdraw and refuse the game because I am afraid of seeing some super deadly instant death card. I get the false object in the throat feeling. I know it and I know its not real to my physical body so I mantra that. The room looks rotten and deadly and oozy. I think maybe this entity wants me to clean up for my kids and take away all the dangers. Showing me things to help me in a frighten way. Food for thought and really metaphoric for many situations which could cause them danger I can help prevent. All in all packed full of teaching in spite of being scary and weird.

AND now the beautiful: MU's last Golden yellow of the sun batch. REALLY GOOD SHIT!!
1:38 am. Wow. I almost talked myself out of it again tonight. Needing sleep from a long fun day with the family. I finally decide 63mg of the golden yellow of the sun spice from Moon Unit would be a great nightcap to end a day where I felt relatively connected and working on my stuff.
I used the machine and remembered to light from beneath as I tipped my machine laden with melted spice downward.
The hit was so big and deep it took two exhalations to push the vapor out.
Into hit two the launch countdown began. I am in! OEV's out the ass. My living room is alive with entities playing some refereed game. As I was getting sucked into impossible loops of this I saw this fairie I have seen before. She shoots energy arrows and knocks the gamers offline. Its funny because she pops in and out of view so fast.
The room begins to clear and I decide to close my eyes to ride the wave back. emerging from darkness I am soon flying around the perimeter of an enormous tenacled creature. It can see me. It does not seem harmful and I get a sense of peace from it as I am enveloped by it. I begin to float out away and I can see glimpses of the "great light" in the sky in my periphery. The peace and protection I feel is unimaginable.
IRL outside some cop hits his siren and I open my eyes because it startled me out of this meditation with this amazing creature. Ugh. however I am glad I remembered it and it did not slip away like hyperspace often does.

RUMOR MILL: Moon Unit is working on a nontoxic extract. Send good vibes and visualize success.

Love to my fellow DEEMSTERS!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 26 May 2013, 23:37:22

elvis=i bought his jungle spice, so i cant compare it here.(and hes not selling it any more anyways  :P )


Do tell though. I have some stashed I have actually been afraid to try after one terrifying trip I had mixed 15mg into with some of Tree of Liberty's amazing spice. The only time I felt possessed by an entity and it was not nice. Thinking I want to finish the bag but I have not read a trip report that tells me anything about a good hyperspace sized rip of the jungle. Please share or PM me!

I also want to know what the best freebase storage method is for some remnants of a gram I want to share with someone special I won't see for three or four months. Vacuum seal and freeze OK? Please answer if you actually know and are not just theorizing for a +1


my buddy who makes it keeps it in a vial and puts it in the freezer, says it has lasted about 3 months.

im sure a bag would be fine, no need for a plus one though  :P

and elvis's jungle spice was some pretty wicked shit, but it was not nearly as visual even at higher doses.
still definitely visual and gives an impression of a space but it is much less colorful for me.

also, the bodyhigh from his jungle spice was crazy. i had a lot of weird tweaky energy and i didnt know what to do with myself. it made me a bit anxious.

but it did teach me some things so i cant complain  ::)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 26 May 2013, 23:38:40
OMFG!  127mg MXE insufflated + 20--25mg DMT vapourised = harmonic nirvana

I'm mostly down now.  I don't have much to add.  Just copying my feedback for my MXE vendor (Tunbear) here:
"WOW! Potent stuff! Amazing trans-Atlantic ship time! Ordered 2g, received 2.13g (thanx for the extra bag for calibration). I've never used MXE before, but I heard good things about DMT + MXE. I tried it, and SAW awareness, and became a vibration, and found Nirvana. Literally. I'm not sure I'm ready to be human again."
Needless to say, I highly recommend this combination.

@GGA, thank you for sharing and +1 for going where no cheese has gone before! :-)
I have not touched dissociatives since LSD + ketamine that resulted in 1 billion deaths too many, so I know that you can seriously power up the effects of psychedelics by turning off external stimuli, but hence questions below:
1. What's the sequence and times?
2 judging by your posts the trip was about 1.5 hours, right? What's the split into come-up, peak, coming down?
3. I presume you are out for the bulk of the trip, right?
4. DMT does not really have after-effects for me. Does this combo have any?
5. Knowing you you have done your research :-) how is this with MAOI?

Much obliged!!!
IM

I've never done K, but my research indicated that MXE is longer lasting and more powerful.  A single dose gives a 5--6 hour trip with after-effects last for about a day.  My letter had come on Friday, and when I came home from work, I decided to try it out.  I started with a 73 mg test dose.  As it began to hit, I felt creative and got to working on a music project I have in the works.  I was digging the 'fluidity' the MXE gave my guitar work, and decided to dose some more.  I did 54 mg.  The extra MXE made my playing go from 'fluid' to 'sloppy', and I was tripping too hard to functionally get any more recording accomplished.

I was tripping pretty hard now, and experiencing some confusion ... basically, I felt like I had motion sickness of the mind.  I abandoned the recording effort and decided to try smoking some DMT.  I ended up doing 3 DMT trips that night.  The first I did to music, as is my habit.  It was a very interesting trip, but the only major difference I noticed from a normal DMT trip was that the experience was drastically slowed down.  An hour or so later was when I did my second attempt, and this was the trip I mentioned.  I tripped in silence this time.  Also, I had added the small amount of jungle spice my extraction had so far produced to my pipe (not really sure how relevant this fact is to the experience I had).  The only noise was a steady warbling hum coming from the interference between the droning sounds of my computer fan and the refrigerator.  This sound became my entire reality and I became it.  It's really impossible to describe what happened, except to say that through this hum, I found Nirvana.

For a long time, I was completely flabbergasted by what had just happened and could believe I was now just going to come back down to a regular human existence.  Trying to recapture the experience, I smoked DMT one more time about another hour later.  This trip was quite powerful and very different from a usual DMT trip, but did not have the same effect as the previous one.

After coming mostly down from the MXE, I decided to trip through the night and downed a harmala capsule (I checked to make sure this was safe with MXE first) and a couple of Tess tabs.  I watched 'Imaginaerum' (highly recommend it), and as the sun came up, I did a bunch more MXE and went out walking in the forest listening to Aphex twin and Lustmord.  Afterward, I came home and continued recording for the rest of the afternoon.  It was the most incredible and magical weekend of my life, and I can still hardly believe it actually happened.

I think I answered everything but #3, and I'm not sure what you mean.  I was awake the whole time until the late afternoon on Saturday.  Then I lay in bed listening to music and the MXE trip sort of faded into dreams.  I don't know what else you mean by 'out'.  DMT produced immersive hallucinations (as it usually does) ... the MXE alone produced some pretty incredible visuals, but didn't produce a 'K-hole' where I lost visual contact with physical reality.  I am so happy to have discovered a new drug that's this good, and I recommend it to anyone (but be careful because it's very strong).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 27 May 2013, 00:38:00


RUMOR MILL: Moon Unit is working on a nontoxic extract. Send good vibes and visualize success.

Love to my fellow DEEMSTERS!

a nontoxic extract? would that refer to the lime/vinegar/d-limonene method? it's certainly interesting and sounds worthwhile just to get away from caustic soda and petroleum solvents but from what i've read, lye is insoluble in naphtha.

nothing but love ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: chemdog on 27 May 2013, 01:30:41
Hello everyone

I've listed some details regarding the samples up on a stealth listing.

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/6cffc02950

I have received some PMs regarding this already, but I am resetting the clock so all get a chance. 4 ( maybe 5 ) 60mg samples available to established Deemsters for little more than postage. Would like a couple of UK buyers in there but since time travel doesn't discriminate, neither should spacial travel. :-)

CDS
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 27 May 2013, 16:03:39

elvis=i bought his jungle spice, so i cant compare it here.(and hes not selling it any more anyways  :P )


Do tell though. I have some stashed I have actually been afraid to try after one terrifying trip I had mixed 15mg into with some of Tree of Liberty's amazing spice. The only time I felt possessed by an entity and it was not nice. Thinking I want to finish the bag but I have not read a trip report that tells me anything about a good hyperspace sized rip of the jungle. Please share or PM me!

I also want to know what the best freebase storage method is for some remnants of a gram I want to share with someone special I won't see for three or four months. Vacuum seal and freeze OK? Please answer if you actually know and are not just theorizing for a +1

Now for my news. I tried a tek with ACRB. The usual story of gooey clear precip. Gonna evap for a few days and see if it smells right. Prob to high in NMT to crystalize. Doing a last try with THICK-LIGHT's tek from the nexus but most likely the last because the time and effort with all my IRL shit means it cuts into time with folks who need me present. Makes me respect the effort the good vendors put into their work. Cheers to you, you know who you are!

NEW TRIP REPORTS: Both amazing, one a harsh teaching, one a beautiful fun ride. Same vendor two batches.

May 5 2013 MU's older tan batch.
DMT DIARY 5-5-2013

We'll call this one a lesson in poisons. Earlier I tried to vaporize 61mg of MU spice. I got a very loud high pitched cinewave effect. Nothing very visual except at first with closed eyes. Vine serpent, malicious coming for me. Opened my eyes quickly.  Sad thoughts about my older daughters and my feelings of distance. i feel an itch on my left arm and reach to scratch it and the wave stops but so does everything else except the "eh" kind of feeling. All together kind of a bummer. So I made some tea read sow of the DMT lexicon to learn about the cinewave, prayed about my kids and went to the couch to hit the machine again with no spice added, just whatever residuals inhabit the machine. One freaking hit and I was completely unable to see the end of the pipe to light it again and the room fills completely with these glowing cartoonish ghost dogs. they looked exactly alike. literally I cannot see anything else there are so many. I blink my eyes quickly and they begin to thin with every blink and suddenly I am in a game. on the table in front of me are like 3d flash cards with every poison imaginable. Stop to long and feel its effect. acknowledge and blink and the effect goes from one to the next poison. I am wondering if the jungle nature of this spice has anything to do with it. Again the Yuremamine question hits my mind. I look to the left and my demon face painting looks at me as if shrugging and wishing me luck surviving the game. Rotten foods, stomach tightens, nausea, blink next card... Poison nuts and berries are there and I make a decision to withdraw and refuse the game because I am afraid of seeing some super deadly instant death card. I get the false object in the throat feeling. I know it and I know its not real to my physical body so I mantra that. The room looks rotten and deadly and oozy. I think maybe this entity wants me to clean up for my kids and take away all the dangers. Showing me things to help me in a frighten way. Food for thought and really metaphoric for many situations which could cause them danger I can help prevent. All in all packed full of teaching in spite of being scary and weird.

AND now the beautiful: MU's last Golden yellow of the sun batch. REALLY GOOD SHIT!!
1:38 am. Wow. I almost talked myself out of it again tonight. Needing sleep from a long fun day with the family. I finally decide 63mg of the golden yellow of the sun spice from Moon Unit would be a great nightcap to end a day where I felt relatively connected and working on my stuff.
I used the machine and remembered to light from beneath as I tipped my machine laden with melted spice downward.
The hit was so big and deep it took two exhalations to push the vapor out.
Into hit two the launch countdown began. I am in! OEV's out the ass. My living room is alive with entities playing some refereed game. As I was getting sucked into impossible loops of this I saw this fairie I have seen before. She shoots energy arrows and knocks the gamers offline. Its funny because she pops in and out of view so fast.
The room begins to clear and I decide to close my eyes to ride the wave back. emerging from darkness I am soon flying around the perimeter of an enormous tenacled creature. It can see me. It does not seem harmful and I get a sense of peace from it as I am enveloped by it. I begin to float out away and I can see glimpses of the "great light" in the sky in my periphery. The peace and protection I feel is unimaginable.
IRL outside some cop hits his siren and I open my eyes because it startled me out of this meditation with this amazing creature. Ugh. however I am glad I remembered it and it did not slip away like hyperspace often does.

RUMOR MILL: Moon Unit is working on a nontoxic extract. Send good vibes and visualize success.

Love to my fellow DEEMSTERS!

I get that same feeling of unbelievable happiness and safety as well when i use moon units last freebase,  and the elves were dancing, flipping, spinning, floating...it was absolutely amazing, the content that i was filled with! and ever since my last trip, which was about a week ago, i have been trying to describe it to close friends that i want to try spice...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 27 May 2013, 16:27:11
I also want to know what the best freebase storage method is for some remnants of a gram I want to share with someone special I won't see for three or four months. Vacuum seal and freeze OK? Please answer if you actually know and are not just theorizing for a +1

Glass vial well sealed, cool and dark place (I never stored in the freezer to be honest and I don't know how it works; the temperature I usually keep it is about 10/15 degree C). I kept a batch in this way for six months one time with no noticeable change in potency. I actually think the dark and not plastic/metal parts to be the most important, more than the cold is (naturally if you don't put the thing at an hot temperature).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: coglac on 27 May 2013, 20:32:04
Subscribing!
Anyone tried JOR's dmt yet? I have some one the way!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: JustThree on 27 May 2013, 20:54:56
@Coglac: his 97% batch has probably been my cleanest DMT experience to date. I bought a gram (around $150) and I only break it out to introduce people to the wonderful world beyond. Great stuff and I typically dose around 25-40mg for a lovely ride.

I popped into this thread to put in a word for ShyGuy as well. I sampled some of his Yellow DMT and it's good domestic deems for the discounted price. It arrived as 2 nice big slabs, around .5g each, the bag totaled ~1080mg, which is about doses above advertised. Great service. 5 day delivery.

Product gets an 8/10 just because it's not top notch quality, but definitely as advertised.
Service was 10/10 though.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 28 May 2013, 00:51:31
@GGA, thank you for your elaborate response - incredible story! I thought that it was only MAOI that was prolonging the trip. I need to read a lot more on this MXE, indeed. The only thing that worries me slightly in your story is its duration - for a variety of reasons I prefer short-acting substances. I am still working on allocating time to my long-awaited pharmahuasca trip ... Really keen on doing something that allows me to bring my experiences back. In the last week I had a couple of very positive trips on dmtnexus'es and MultiExciter's spice - both are really good with MultiExciter's one being cleaner, more cerebral and virtually no body load. It is a creeper - now you are here and next moment you are in hyperspace :-)

I should clarify: although I didn't specifically time things, I don't think the MXE actually extended the duration of the DMT trip.  The DMT lasted its usual 20--25 minutes.  What the MXE did was to dilate time so that the experience went by much more slowly.  This is a huge advantage, because one of the main difficulties with a DMT trip is the blinding speed with which everything happens.  Adding something to slow the trip down allows the whole experience to be more easily directed.

Thank you for your detailed instructions on the Machine.  This is very helpful.  +1

@GGA - Would it be possible for you to add this to the OP, may be at the very end or so?

My thoughts precisely.  Will do.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 28 May 2013, 04:36:55
I popped into this thread to put in a word for ShyGuy as well. I sampled some of his Yellow DMT and it's good domestic deems for the discounted price. It arrived as 2 nice big slabs, around .5g each, the bag totaled ~1080mg, which is about doses above advertised. Great service. 5 day delivery.

Product gets an 8/10 just because it's not top notch quality, but definitely as advertised.
Service was 10/10 though.

thank you for the kind words! i honestly wish i could have my various batches of DMT lab tested for purity but i don't have the means. i'm currently working on producing white crystal that doesn't oxidize into a pale yellow but apparently it takes some doing  ;D

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 28 May 2013, 06:03:17


I get that same feeling of unbelievable happiness and safety as well when i use moon units last freebase,  and the elves were dancing, flipping, spinning, floating...it was absolutely amazing, the content that i was filled with! and ever since my last trip, which was about a week ago, i have been trying to describe it to close friends that i want to try spice...
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Last night I went deep in again with the tan spice. 59mg and got most of it in the first hit. By the time I set the pipe down I was propelled into the space with the tentacled being. It was so vast and enormous. I could hear a lot of chatter of something telling me about what I was seeing. I was able to see a magnified view of the tentacles. The suckers were more like blossoms. The detail was amazing. I floated slowly through its arms. I had thoughts of mitochondria. Inner space? The sensation of floating was that of being underwater but it looked as if we were flying. I looked to the sky and saw this light almost to bright to look at pushing through cracks in the atmosphere. I was drifting away and found myself outside of a locked gate in some dark misty place. Could this being be in captivity? I opened my eyes and the room seemed shrouded in this glowy white mist. I have to submit after seeing this same thing on two separate occasions in such details it gives me pause.
I was looking at images of octopus today after this trip and found these by mistake. Image 13 looks crazily close but without the wings as far as I remember it. CLEARNET: http://www.thelovecraftsman.com/2011/09/gallery-101-images-of-great-cthulhu.html
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 28 May 2013, 07:00:05
The detail was amazing. I floated slowly through its arms. I had thoughts of mitochondria. Inner space?

One of my oddest trips ever took my perception inside my own body.  I floated through my lungs, watched my heart beating, etc.  Don't be fooled by the term 'hyperspace' ... DMT can take you anywhere imaginable.  This is what I thought of reading your description.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 28 May 2013, 09:49:26
DMTNEXUS has shared this link with me - looks suspiciously like my first machine he has sold me :)
http://pdfcast.org/pdf/how-to-make-and-use-a-dmt-pipe
Happy DIYing you all fine people
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 28 May 2013, 16:44:47
hi all....

i have tried asylum changa twice now ..... i dont like it ....  :-\ :-\ :-\..... i dont know if changa sapuse to be this way!! it is dark painfull and so sedative.... it is nothing like freebase dmt....  ??? .... it does activate those crystal clear visuals but they are mostly dark .... last night the visuals contained spiders and some very dark visuals ..... after am done there is no this feeling of glow and light .... what i felt is a feeling of suffucation heat and agitation.... and in both somkes i felt very sexual afterwards in a very dark way...

peace
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 28 May 2013, 16:47:47
hi all....

i have tried asylum changa twice now ..... i dont like it ....  :-\ :-\ :-\..... i dont know if changa sapuse to be this way!! it is dark painfull and so sedative.... it is nothing like freebase dmt....  ??? .... it does activate those crystal clear visuals but they are mostly dark .... last night the visuals contained spiders and some very dark visuals ..... after am done there is no this feeling of glow and light .... what i felt is a feeling of suffucation heat and agitation....

peace
he states in his profile that he uses jungle spice for the changa.

you learn more from bad trips then you do from good trips  ;)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: AddyQueenHashKing on 28 May 2013, 16:51:08
We'll have more of our prided DMT  listed next week, so don't forget to become a fan and check back because the prices will be awesome and we've been out for quite awhile..
Have a great week guys!
AQHK
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 28 May 2013, 16:56:37
hi all....

i have tried asylum changa twice now ..... i dont like it ....  :-\ :-\ :-\..... i dont know if changa sapuse to be this way!! it is dark painfull and so sedative.... it is nothing like freebase dmt....  ??? .... it does activate those crystal clear visuals but they are mostly dark .... last night the visuals contained spiders and some very dark visuals ..... after am done there is no this feeling of glow and light .... what i felt is a feeling of suffucation heat and agitation....

peace
he states in his profile that he uses jungle spice for the changa.

you learn more from bad trips then you do from good trips  ;)

well i have never tried jungle spice b4 so i have no clue how ut feels  :o.... the thing is in both smokes there was nothing to learn .... i wouldnt say they were bad trips as i didnt trip as there was no break thru ... it is just that the visuals abd the feelings were dark in nature but nothing was conveyed....
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 28 May 2013, 17:01:58

well i have never tried jungle spice b4 so i have no clue how ut feels  :o.... the thing is in both smokes there was nothing to learn .... i wouldnt say they were bad trips as i didnt trip as there was no break thru ... it is just that the visuals abd the feelings were dark in nature but nothing was conveyed....
well i definitely agree with you.

jungle spice is much more sinister, confusing, dark, mean, etc.

i do remember one of the best lessons i learned on dmt was on the jungle spice though.

i kept trying to find significance in the experience and the things i was seeing, and it told me to stop trying to figure everything out. there is an order to the chaos but its too complex for my feeble mind to comprehend fully. just be.

like i said though i agree with you, dmt feels so awesome and sacred, a true journey to another dimension.
jungle spice is quite a different experience, i found it to be less cosmic and more hellish haha.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 28 May 2013, 17:11:49

well i have never tried jungle spice b4 so i have no clue how ut feels  :o.... the thing is in both smokes there was nothing to learn .... i wouldnt say they were bad trips as i didnt trip as there was no break thru ... it is just that the visuals abd the feelings were dark in nature but nothing was conveyed....
well i definitely agree with you.

jungle spice is much more sinister, confusing, dark, mean, etc.

i do remember one of the best lessons i learned on dmt was on the jungle spice though.

i kept trying to find significance in the experience and the things i was seeing, and it told me to stop trying to figure everything out. there is an order to the chaos but its too complex for my feeble mind to comprehend fully. just be.

like i said though i agree with you, dmt feels so awesome and sacred, a true journey to another dimension.
jungle spice is quite a different experience, i found it to be less cosmic and more hellish haha.

exactly i kept asking what do u want?? what is it u want me to know but no answer.... dmt freebase waz very very magnifcient and divine in nature .... with this changa i feel it is more demonic and dark ....
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 28 May 2013, 17:21:55
guys who would u say has the best dmt *quality/price* shipping intetrnational??
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 28 May 2013, 18:59:03
hi all....

i dont know if changa sapuse to be this way!! it is dark painfull and so sedative.... it is nothing like freebase dmt....  ???

peace

This changa must contain an MAOI.  This would be where the sedative effect comes from.  My personal opinion (which I've said repeatedly here) is that MAOIs don't do anything very good for a smoked DMT trip.  It's true they extend the length, but they interfere too much with your ability to keep up with the trip and get anything out of it.  I've experienced a couple of counter-examples to this rule, but I find it much better to smoke freebase without the MAOI.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 28 May 2013, 21:11:20
hi all....

i dont know if changa sapuse to be this way!! it is dark painfull and so sedative.... it is nothing like freebase dmt....  ???

peace

This changa must contain an MAOI.  This would be where the sedative effect comes from.  My personal opinion (which I've said repeatedly here) is that MAOIs don't do anything very good for a smoked DMT trip.  It's true they extend the length, but they interfere too much with your ability to keep up with the trip and get anything out of it.  I've experienced a couple of counter-examples to this rule, but I find it much better to smoke freebase without the MAOI.

true ... this changa does contain MAOI.... it is ditracting and the numbness it provides is shitty ... i didnt find that it extends the trip honestly it just makes it weird ....
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: quken on 28 May 2013, 21:22:26
waiataaroha: Damn, I just ordered 2grams of changa from asylum. Now I kind of feel like I should have went for the freebase he has. I smoked my 0.1g sample from mahakala the other day and it was a bliss, have never gotten that kind of experience on dmt ever before. Might send an email to asylum and explaining myself and do the switch. Do you guys know if his freebase is any good?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 29 May 2013, 00:40:25
waiataaroha: Damn, I just ordered 2grams of changa from asylum. Do you guys know if his freebase is any good?

I've never ordered from Asylum, but it would seem that pimpit was piggybacking on his account---i.e., playing the middle man and ordering for his own customers from Asylum.  It was brokentoes who brought this to our attention, but I can verify some details from my own experience with pimpit ... and so it would seem I received Asylum's freebase from my order with pimpit.  It was very good pale yellow/eggshell stuff.  I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 29 May 2013, 05:35:53

well i have never tried jungle spice b4 so i have no clue how ut feels  :o.... the thing is in both smokes there was nothing to learn .... i wouldnt say they were bad trips as i didnt trip as there was no break thru ... it is just that the visuals abd the feelings were dark in nature but nothing was conveyed....
well i definitely agree with you.

jungle spice is much more sinister, confusing, dark, mean, etc.

i do remember one of the best lessons i learned on dmt was on the jungle spice though.

i kept trying to find significance in the experience and the things i was seeing, and it told me to stop trying to figure everything out. there is an order to the chaos but its too complex for my feeble mind to comprehend fully. just be.

like i said though i agree with you, dmt feels so awesome and sacred, a true journey to another dimension.
jungle spice is quite a different experience, i found it to be less cosmic and more hellish haha.

Yeah I have some jungle I bought from Elvis months ago that I have only smoked once really. Still have 150mg of the 200. My ass was possessed and thoroughly kicked. It almost made me shy away from DMT. I gets a little redder as time goes by. Some weird looking shit. Give me some MU RP or ToL deemsters any day over that dark scary place. I would love to hear some detailed jungle trip reports though.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: waiataaroha on 29 May 2013, 07:49:49
i am about tp place an order with Drshroom .... he has white freebase and yellow ... his prices sre great compard to others .... anyone trid his white freebase??
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: quken on 29 May 2013, 09:31:12
Ok, I have already placed the order for 2g changa, but I did send him an message saying I wanted to switch. I hope he doesn't feel I am dumb customer...

My second choice would have been DRshrooms's / Multi Exciter's . Not that I have tested theirs but I have read very good reviews. I have only smoked DMTnexus and changa from mahakala, but he is out of stock at the moment.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 29 May 2013, 09:45:13
I wanted to try DRshrooms' DMT but I couldn't (the vendor doesn't ship in my country). I bought from Multi Exciter many times and his/her DMT is very good (almost completely white and no smell until smoked; when smoked the typical sign of pure DMT, the vague flower aroma instead of the mothballs one). S/He's definitely on my top DMT vendors' list.

I will write a report with ME DMT in the trip reports contest starting in June 1st.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 29 May 2013, 09:57:11
This is a huge advantage, because one of the main difficulties with a DMT trip is the blinding speed with which everything happens.  Adding something to slow the trip down allows the whole experience to be more easily directed.

Yes, at beginning it is. In fact the very first times I tried DMT I used a MAOI just for this. With my relationship with the spirit of the DMT becoming closer, however, and passing certain plateaus I can now work very well with the speed of the experience. I actually tried MAOI recently and it seemed like I was having an experience in slow-motion. To enhance and longer the experience of the "traveling in the spirit vision" (what is called "breakthrough") I use a sort of "charging" up, that consists on using 2-3 threshold doses in lapses of about 20 minutes before the full one.

A little hint: all of what concerns DMT is tied to the dream state. If you start practicing things related to the dream state (as for example learning to stay on the edge of sleep and wakefulness so that by and by you can acknowledge all the states you pass by) the control and working with DMT greatly enhances. Same for what it concerns the full memory of what it happens there.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ElDude on 29 May 2013, 16:58:51
Bought a gram from Fractalbliss, should be arriving in a few days. Anybody have experience with his product? Also, I'm planning on making a "machine" for my ROA, but I lack a drill. Would I be able to use a philips head screwdriver and a hammer to carefully punch a hole in the bottom? Are there any other easy (and cheap) DIY vapes I could make?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 29 May 2013, 17:51:42
This is a huge advantage, because one of the main difficulties with a DMT trip is the blinding speed with which everything happens.  Adding something to slow the trip down allows the whole experience to be more easily directed.

Yes, at beginning it is. In fact the very first times I tried DMT I used a MAOI just for this. With my relationship with the spirit of the DMT becoming closer, however, and passing certain plateaus I can now work very well with the speed of the experience. I actually tried MAOI recently and it seemed like I was having an experience in slow-motion. To enhance and longer the experience of the "traveling in the spirit vision" (what is called "breakthrough") I use a sort of "charging" up, that consists on using 2-3 threshold doses in lapses of about 20 minutes before the full one.

A little hint: all of what concerns DMT is tied to the dream state. If you start practicing things related to the dream state (as for example learning to stay on the edge of sleep and wakefulness so that by and by you can acknowledge all the states you pass by) the control and working with DMT greatly enhances. Same for what it concerns the full memory of what it happens there.

@BlackIris, could you please elaborate on this border state and how one would start working it?
I have considerably reduced my DMT intake now because I find it difficult to bring back details and insights from my trips - just emotions. One thing I have noticed is that meditation and spacing between trips did reduce probability of a negative experience, but I want to be able to bring some form of verbal interpretation back.
Thanks in advance!
IM
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 29 May 2013, 19:20:10
@BlackIris, could you please elaborate on this border state and how one would start working it?

The border state I was talking about is an ample state that everyone pass through every night when they go to sleep. There are different steps on which ones goes through in the process. First the sense of touch vanish, then smell and taste, after it the hearing sense and lastly the visual one. Hypnagogic imagery starts appearing, peculiar noises (as the rushing of a waterfall or the typical sound that you hear, in fact, in the first stages of the DMT experience) and finally (if you can keep your mind awake till the end) your physical body will enter so called sleep paralysis while your mind will be completely awake (in this stadium you can have a so-called OBE if you want).

You don't need to come to this advanced level (e.g. learning to have an OBE) to have benefits in the DMT sessions. Just practice on keeping awareness as you fall out to sleep. The best way to try this is not at night time, but in the morning, just after you wake. Your body is very relaxed but your mind is ready to be full awake, so it is much easier to fall asleep while retaining consciousness. This little exercise alone will help you a lot with dream memory and interacting fully with what it happens during DMT. 

EDIT: If then you want to learn to achieve an OBE there are two tricks: the first is to set an alarm at about 3/4 A.M. and practice to not move nor opening the eyes - when you will learn to do this in no time you will learn to have an OBE, you just have to do what I explained above in this state, in very little time you will be out; the second trick is akin to this (and for this you can try it out the times you are practicing to not move/not open your eyes or you fail) in the part of the alarm clock, only that this time you will remain awake for about half an hour/an hour then return to bed and practice what I said. It's very easy to learn to have an OBE in this way, in about a month you should be able to. It is still a little different than having a full conscious OBE but those are extremely difficult to do, they take years of meditation (btw you can learn to have them by DMT easily if you want, I will post an example about this in the trip reports thread on June 1st).

There are other even more advanced exercises to do, as Lucid Dreaming practices (that you can find in clearnet), but you can save them for when you have a little of experience in the above.

I have considerably reduced my DMT intake now because I find it difficult to bring back details and insights from my trips - just emotions. One thing I have noticed is that meditation and spacing between trips did reduce probability of a negative experience, but I want to be able to bring some form of verbal interpretation back.

With the exercise above you will surely do so. Also I suggest you before using DMT to set your intent up by repeating a simple affirmation as "I will remember everything it happens to me during my trip" before starting your session. You will be astounded at the difference just a simple thing as this can make. This works btw also for remembering your dream at nights (and in fact the more you will be able to remember about your dreams at night the more you will be able to remember of your DMT trips; use a dream diary for some time and write up in it your dreams IMMEDIATELY AFTER you wake in the morning, by and by - and if you tie with it affirmations in very little time - you will be able to recollect every single dream you have per night in every detail, and you will see the difference it will make during a DMT trip).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 29 May 2013, 20:01:49
@BlackIris, thank you and +1.
I will do as you recommend!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 29 May 2013, 20:07:24
@IM - I see you already posted. We both posted almost at the same time.

And of course +1 to BlackIris.


... minds think alike :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: chemdog on 29 May 2013, 20:48:05
/me high-5s incogmagnito  8)

One sample sent - four remain. PMs if interested please.

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/6cffc02950

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 29 May 2013, 21:10:42
/me high-5s incogmagnito  8)

One sample sent - four remain. PMs if interested please.

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/6cffc02950


Thank you, CD!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 29 May 2013, 21:34:06
I've never done K, but my research indicated that MXE is longer lasting and more powerful.  A single dose gives a 5--6 hour trip with after-effects last for about a day.  My letter had come on Friday, and when I came home from work, I decided to try it out.  I started with a 73 mg test dose.  As it began to hit, I felt creative and got to working on a music project I have in the works.  I was digging the 'fluidity' the MXE gave my guitar work, and decided to dose some more.  I did 54 mg.  The extra MXE made my playing go from 'fluid' to 'sloppy', and I was tripping too hard to functionally get any more recording accomplished.

I was tripping pretty hard now, and experiencing some confusion ... basically, I felt like I had motion sickness of the mind.  I abandoned the recording effort and decided to try smoking some DMT.  I ended up doing 3 DMT trips that night.  The first I did to music, as is my habit.  It was a very interesting trip, but the only major difference I noticed from a normal DMT trip was that the experience was drastically slowed down.  An hour or so later was when I did my second attempt, and this was the trip I mentioned.  I tripped in silence this time.  Also, I had added the small amount of jungle spice my extraction had so far produced to my pipe (not really sure how relevant this fact is to the experience I had).  The only noise was a steady warbling hum coming from the interference between the droning sounds of my computer fan and the refrigerator.  This sound became my entire reality and I became it.  It's really impossible to describe what happened, except to say that through this hum, I found Nirvana.

For a long time, I was completely flabbergasted by what had just happened and could believe I was now just going to come back down to a regular human existence.  Trying to recapture the experience, I smoked DMT one more time about another hour later.  This trip was quite powerful and very different from a usual DMT trip, but did not have the same effect as the previous one.

After coming mostly down from the MXE, I decided to trip through the night and downed a harmala capsule (I checked to make sure this was safe with MXE first) and a couple of Tess tabs.  I watched 'Imaginaerum' (highly recommend it), and as the sun came up, I did a bunch more MXE and went out walking in the forest listening to Aphex twin and Lustmord.  Afterward, I came home and continued recording for the rest of the afternoon.  It was the most incredible and magical weekend of my life, and I can still hardly believe it actually happened.

I just wanted to post an update to say I think this weekend of tripping fundamentally altered something in my brain.  I have been deliriously happy ever since .  I have also been much more productive than usual ... but the really crazy difference is: every time I close my eyes, I am immediately tripping balls again.  It's fucking nuts!

This is a huge advantage, because one of the main difficulties with a DMT trip is the blinding speed with which everything happens.  Adding something to slow the trip down allows the whole experience to be more easily directed.

Yes, at beginning it is. In fact the very first times I tried DMT I used a MAOI just for this. With my relationship with the spirit of the DMT becoming closer, however, and passing certain plateaus I can now work very well with the speed of the experience. I actually tried MAOI recently and it seemed like I was having an experience in slow-motion. To enhance and longer the experience of the "traveling in the spirit vision" (what is called "breakthrough") I use a sort of "charging" up, that consists on using 2-3 threshold doses in lapses of about 20 minutes before the full one.

The speed is not normally a problem for me---I normally trip hard and follow my trips well on single 15--20mg hits (without any sort of 'charge up')---but all the same, I was able to go further when the trip slowed down.  I want to stress again that MXE and MAOIs do sort of opposite things for a DMT trip: the MAOI slows YOU down relative to the trip while the MXE slows THE TRIP down relative to you ... I find the latter much more useful.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 29 May 2013, 22:23:52
I want to stress again that MXE and MAOIs do sort of opposite things for a DMT trip: the MAOI slows YOU down relative to the trip while the MXE slows THE TRIP down relative to you ... I find the latter much more useful.

Thanks for the heads up. I never tried MXE + DMT so I didn't know this, I supposed it worked similarly to MAOIs on the "slow-down" aspect. This change in modus operandi does indeed make a lot of difference and yes, it makes MXE much more useful. I guess I will have to definitely try it myself.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 30 May 2013, 06:27:09

I just wanted to post an update to say I think this weekend of tripping fundamentally altered something in my brain.  I have been deliriously happy ever since .  I have also been much more productive than usual ... but the really crazy difference is: every time I close my eyes, I am immediately tripping balls again.  It's fucking nuts!


@GGA, This sounds interesting and worrying at the same time.
What kind of visuals are these?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 30 May 2013, 23:19:16
Hi fellow voyagers ....I have been reading all these post for about a good month now and have only gone once with no breakthru do to the person who went before me that didnt shut up.....anyway...I tried Fractals and TA2E dmt and changa...but were good but I really dont have anything to compare it with
Enter Moonunit...been waiting for him to come back and now he is....my problem is that I dont understand the whole gpg NIX version that he requires....I have pgp encryp but not that NIX version...
Can someone please explain this to me....have tried several times to reach out to MU but he doesn't answer....Please help
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 31 May 2013, 00:11:02
send me some positive vibes y'all, as i am building up the courage to go to the great, great beyond!!!   

Thinking that i will play the same music that i did on last time when i had that awesome experience with the elves....i know they loved the music, lol    but i am thinking that if i put myself in that same scenerio, it would maybe produce similar results...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 31 May 2013, 00:43:51
Positive vibes going your way 8) 8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 31 May 2013, 01:58:43
Are you sure its as simple as that...can anyone else chime in on this before he is sold out
Thx in advance
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 31 May 2013, 02:20:53
Are you sure its as simple as that...can anyone else chime in on this before he is sold out
Thx in advance
Yes, it's as simple as that. My GPG version line is below.
Code: [Select]
Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 31 May 2013, 02:39:34
ok...will try it...only thing is that when I import his pgp key I don't get an email....does that happenen with you guys also....by the way I am using Kleopatra
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 31 May 2013, 02:46:51
Damit...and just like that....he's sold out....I guess i'll have to wait till next time....has anyone here tried Vaticans dmt...the pictures look amazing
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 31 May 2013, 04:59:38
Damit...and just like that....he's sold out....I guess i'll have to wait till next time....has anyone here tried Vaticans dmt...the pictures look amazing

My advice, If you can't get MU go Roger Pete or Tree of Liberty (rare presence) if you want to know for a fact you're getting amazing spice. If you are patient and thorough you could just wait for MU. Might be worth the wait.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 31 May 2013, 06:34:21
Thx....will give Vatican a try....after that RogerPete....going to try all of them and let you guys know
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 31 May 2013, 08:40:18
Thx....will give Vatican a try....after that RogerPete....going to try all of them and let you guys know

I am not sure it MultiExciter or dmtnexus have stock, but his wares are very good.
I presume you are in the US, so might be wiser to go domestic.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 31 May 2013, 08:48:09
I just tried again and MU rejected my purchase....don't know what that means but oh well....messaged him several times with no response
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 31 May 2013, 08:57:31
Does MoonUnit normally deactivate his profile completely between product listings?
This is weird as I normally see that vendors simply remove their listings but keep their profiles up.
Anyway, if vendor does not respond they are either not keen to do business with one or they are not there.
In both cases the best idea is to let them be.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ElDude on 31 May 2013, 08:59:00
Any word on FractalBliss' gear?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 31 May 2013, 09:07:47
Have ordered from Fractal several time...speedy delivery and very good egg shell color
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: quken on 31 May 2013, 09:35:41
Anyone know if DRshrooms sends from europe or america to be a little bit inspecific and not name the exact country... (just thinking of shipping times to scandinavia)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 31 May 2013, 12:29:26
Anyone know if DRshrooms sends from europe or america to be a little bit inspecific and not name the exact country... (just thinking of shipping times to scandinavia)

EU
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 31 May 2013, 13:46:53
I just tried again and MU rejected my purchase....don't know what that means but oh well....messaged him several times with no response

I retract my statement about changing the PGP version.  Don't do that.  I also got my order cancelled because I didn't follow the rules.  No complaints from me, my mistake.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 31 May 2013, 16:30:24
I just tried again and MU rejected my purchase....don't know what that means but oh well....messaged him several times with no response
Linux/BSD uses \n to signify the end of the line while Windows uses \r\n. That's how MoonUnit could spot that you were not using *nix!

To input \n rather than \r\n, don't press enter after each line but do this instead:

1. Press and hold down the Alt key.
2. Press the + (plus) key on the numeric keypad.
3. Type in 000A.
4. Release the Alt key.

Also, use a different GPG version this time, for example:
Code: [Select]
Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux)

You can also encrypt a random address with my public key and PM me, and I'll confirm if you've been successful or not.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 31 May 2013, 16:50:40
Not worth it anymore...this guy must of been born knowing cause I had messaged him and also did my best to find the proper way to conform to his request...we all have to start somewhere...but yet he was quick to message me after the cancellation to call me a newbie windows user and to never order again....so in my book not worth it to deal with someone who doesnt take a little bit of time to help point someone in the right direction.....done
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 31 May 2013, 20:46:41
Not worth it anymore...this guy must of been born knowing cause I had messaged him and also did my best to find the proper way to conform to his request...we all have to start somewhere...but yet he was quick to message me after the cancellation to call me a newbie windows user and to never order again....so in my book not worth it to deal with someone who doesnt take a little bit of time to help point someone in the right direction.....done

I am confused. Why does it have to be *nix and why is it better than windows or mac GPG ... Am I missing something here?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DaveTheRave on 31 May 2013, 21:02:15
Ordered "Glass pipe preloaded with a 50mg hit of DMT" from dmtnexus for simplicities sake and very happy I did.
Arrived next day and was stealthy and well packed.
Vaped well and would have launched had my lighter not failed me (school boy error) , was right there too. Would have no issues ordering again and will do so soon.
Recommended.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 01 June 2013, 01:09:45
I am confused. Why does it have to be *nix and why is it better than windows or mac GPG ... Am I missing something here?
*nix is 1337, and all you Windows/Mac OS X users are n00bs!!!!!!!!!!11111oneone</sarcasm>
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 01 June 2013, 01:44:20
hello ;D

just wanted to publicly defend myself against what i consider a bullshit review. until now i've had nothing but 5/5 satisfied customers and out of nowhere someone is claiming that my pale yellow is "completely bunk" and left me a 1/5

i know at least a couple of users in this thread have tried my spice and can vouch for the fact that it is not "bunk"

the only things i can figure is either the DMT got cooked in the mail, a noob doesn't know how to vaporize it, or a competing vendor is trying to smear my name.

i don't even have any DMT listings right now but there should be new reasonably priced listings in a month or two. quality is always advertised honestly  :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: alahverdian on 01 June 2013, 01:55:40
I am currently waiting on an order from RogerPete. This will be my first go around with DMT, and I am very excited. Ordered Thursday, marked in transit that night, its GOTTA come in tomorrow. I'm so pumped.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: JustThree on 01 June 2013, 04:56:01
hello ;D

just wanted to publicly defend myself against what i consider a bullshit review. until now i've had nothing but 5/5 satisfied customers and out of nowhere someone is claiming that my pale yellow is "completely bunk" and left me a 1/5

i know at least a couple of users in this thread have tried my spice and can vouch for the fact that it is not "bunk"

the only things i can figure is either the DMT got cooked in the mail, a noob doesn't know how to vaporize it, or a competing vendor is trying to smear my name.

i don't even have any DMT listings right now but there should be new reasonably priced listings in a month or two. quality is always advertised honestly  :)

I've had no problems with Shy Guy's Yellow DMT. I've used it in both The Machine and sandwiched in a weed pipe with friends. Nothing but good things to say from everyone I've shared with.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 01 June 2013, 07:42:42
TRIP REPORT:

I tried another pharmahuasca experiment last night.  This time, I took ~550mg of harmala extract in two gel caps and 220mg of rough MHRB extract in a single cap a full hour later (I had prepared a second 200mg cap just in case ... but this turned out to be utterly unnecessary).  What can I say ... except "Oh my fuck!"  I guess my last attempt (and the previous trip) were simply under-activated, and my harmala extract must not be as potent as I'd imagined ... but 550mg definitely did the trick.

Last week, I wrote about a harmonic awakening I'd had with MXE + DMT ... and this trip completed the job that one started.  As the DMT began to hit, I had a lot of gastric discomfort, and I lay down in bed and killed the lights.  Then a procession of DMT gods and goddesses appeared to me in succession.  Each one approaches and greeted me, and then touched me lightly on the genitals and on the chest in a sort of gesture of blessing (I could feel their hands touch me).  I couldn't tell you how many there were ... at one point, I realised that they were in fact Platonic forms for things for which there are no words ... 'ways of being' which are complete unto themselves.

I've been busily making music for a demo album lately and was listening to the 1.5 songs I have recorded thus far in the effort.  The music was wildly successful with the pharma, and the gods and goddesses approved ... they were essentially telling me (without words) that I make the best DMT music out there.  I became addicted to my own music and listened to the same 9 minutes of music repetitiously for hours.

After the last of the DMT gods had shuffled by, I got up and began to walk around ... literally dancing around the house in the dark to the music in my headphones.  It struck in the most emphatic way that I've become good at this music thing in a way that's no longer just a 'hobby'. I realised that it's time that I started making a living this way ... more than that, it was already real: the only way I can explain it is to say that in the future, I already have a music career, and I was simply getting an early glimpse of that.

I realised that this new life I was getting drawn into was a choice.  Each instant, we step from one moment into another ... and that is an act of magic.  We have unlimited freedom of choice in this matter, and I simply chose to step into the life of my dreams.  There are plenty of other moments out there where I am frustrated and unhappy ... but I choose to direct my awareness into a universe where I am happy and successful.  Can you imagine what it would mean for all your wildest fantasies to come true?  Probably not ... but you should try, because if you can imagine it, you can choose it.

I have no idea how long the pharma trip actually lasted, but as I was beginning to come down from it, I decided to do some MXE and keep smoke DMT.  I was still tripping when I measured out the doses of these drugs and inadvertently got out massive doses of each.  Not wanting to waste drugs by re-transferring things around, I just went with it and took it all.  I don't know how much DMT I smoked.  Perhaps 100mg?  Perhaps more?  I was in hyperspace for a period of time which felt like a year (I'm not even exaggerating), just floating from reality to reality through existences I'd had no idea I even had.

At one point, I was in a very geometric-looking space---it was like a colony of bacteria and I was just a single cell, or like a giant computer program and I was a single function in it.  There was a matriarchal entity---a sort of supervising subroutine in the software analogy---which took notice of me and downloaded all the information about me.  She docked alongside me to give me a tune-up ... she left me feeling more well and whole than I ever have.  I was again listening to my own music on an infinitely repeating cycle.  Everywhere I went, beings started taking notice of me, and I began to realise that the DMT gods were like my groupies ... I had brought music with me that pleased them immensely, and that were giving me all sorts of attention for it.

It's impossible to describe in detail everything that happened in a year of tripping that night ... but the upshot of the whole experience is that I am now a shaman.  I don't think I even need the drugs anymore, because I now know how to choose my own reality.  I will keep up my role as godfather to this thread until someone else steps up to take over, but I have no immediate plans to order any more drugs through the mail (cool as that idea is).  Nonetheless, I am deeply grateful to SR and to you all for being a part of getting me to this point.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 01 June 2013, 08:15:22
@GGA, This sounds interesting and worrying at the same time.
What kind of visuals are these?

My dream state has become indistinguishable from a DMT trip.  I don't know if this will persist, but I sort of think it will (see my trip report above).  Just closing my eyes starts me feeling this way ... it literally opens the door for 'dream travel' (whether I'm asleep or not).

@Shy Guyy: it's a bummer that someone carelessly sullied your stats, but I think people on this thread do their homework and know better than to be thrown by one isolated review.

I have just been catching up on the thread and forums ... and I had received the following strange and upsetting message:

ill give you a coin to delete that thread

I don't know what's going on here.  If this moon unit is the same as the DMT vendor, this concerns me.  Moon Unit is very well vouched-for on this thread, and so I'm unsure what interest he would have in getting rid of it.  Can his account have been hacked?  Is this just some other user impersonating MU?  Maybe he just doesn't want people seeing dmtnexus's circumnavigation of his whole NIX insistence thing.  I'm not sure ... but for safety's sake, I am removing Moon Unit from the 'good' list.  If that's his forum username, he needs to explain himself ... and I wouldn't encourage anyone to order from him until he does.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 01 June 2013, 08:49:47
hello ;D

just wanted to publicly defend myself against what i consider a bullshit review. until now i've had nothing but 5/5 satisfied customers and out of nowhere someone is claiming that my pale yellow is "completely bunk" and left me a 1/5

i know at least a couple of users in this thread have tried my spice and can vouch for the fact that it is not "bunk"

the only things i can figure is either the DMT got cooked in the mail, a noob doesn't know how to vaporize it, or a competing vendor is trying to smear my name.

i don't even have any DMT listings right now but there should be new reasonably priced listings in a month or two. quality is always advertised honestly  :)

Did this person contact you on this?
If not I would contact them and ask them what has happened.
And do not worry too much - it is a number of bad reviews in a row that normally suggests that there is a problem.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: chil on 01 June 2013, 09:11:30


I've been busily making music for a demo album lately and was listening to the 1.5 songs I have recorded thus far in the effort.  The music was wildly successful with the pharma, and the gods and goddesses approved ... they were essentially telling me (without words) that I make the best DMT music out there.  I became addicted to my own music and listened to the same 9 minutes of music repetitiously for hours.


thanks for the trip report !

I'm curious to know what your gods-approved music sound like  :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 01 June 2013, 11:04:39
I'm curious to know what your gods-approved music sound like  :)

Of course you are.  At my current pace, I will finish the 5-track album within the next few weeks.  Then I'll have to wait for my friend to record drum tracks.  After that, I intend to copyright it and post it online as a free download.  For obvious reasons, I can't just share it with people from these forums who ask ... but if you keep an eye out for psychedelic music, you'll probably have it before too long.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Shy Guyy on 01 June 2013, 14:45:46
hello ;D

just wanted to publicly defend myself against what i consider a bullshit review. until now i've had nothing but 5/5 satisfied customers and out of nowhere someone is claiming that my pale yellow is "completely bunk" and left me a 1/5

i know at least a couple of users in this thread have tried my spice and can vouch for the fact that it is not "bunk"

the only things i can figure is either the DMT got cooked in the mail, a noob doesn't know how to vaporize it, or a competing vendor is trying to smear my name.

i don't even have any DMT listings right now but there should be new reasonably priced listings in a month or two. quality is always advertised honestly  :)

Did this person contact you on this?
If not I would contact them and ask them what has happened.
And do not worry too much - it is a number of bad reviews in a row that normally suggests that there is a problem.

no contact whatsoever. i even ask in my proflie to please make contact before leaving any harsh feedback so we can fix any problems. i guess because my usual policy is no refunds he just decided to yell bunk and leave a 1/5, even though the product made it there no problem and like 50 users have vouched for its quality.


thanks for the reply :) i guess i'll just chill out and enjoy as much as possible
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 01 June 2013, 15:07:42
as far as moon unit wanting this thread deleted, that should be obvious. everyone is talking about ways around his rules, so they can trick him into selling to them. i can see why that would bother the man....

lol i mean if he is offering you a coin to take it down he is obviously trying to control his sales...

the people that are here talking about getting around his rules should take down their posts, then he probably wont give a shit.

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I've been busily making music for a demo album lately and was listening to the 1.5 songs I have recorded thus far in the effort.  The music was wildly successful with the pharma, and the gods and goddesses approved ... they were essentially telling me (without words) that I make the best DMT music out there.  I became addicted to my own music and listened to the same 9 minutes of music repetitiously for hours.

i make electronic music, and the dmt gods have told me that they were very happy with what they were hearing when i showed them my music, but when i came out of the trip i still had to remind myself "i still need to act like my music sucks and i have tons of room for improvement."

people let psychedelics kind of kill their motivation because they become so "sure" in themselves that they stop growing.
im not saying thats you, im just saying dont let it be you!

Spiral out!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 01 June 2013, 15:59:32
@GGA, This sounds interesting and worrying at the same time.
What kind of visuals are these?

My dream state has become indistinguishable from a DMT trip.  I don't know if this will persist, but I sort of think it will (see my trip report above).  Just closing my eyes starts me feeling this way ... it literally opens the door for 'dream travel' (whether I'm asleep or not).

@Shy Guyy: it's a bummer that someone carelessly sullied your stats, but I think people on this thread do their homework and know better than to be thrown by one isolated review.

I have just been catching up on the thread and forums ... and I had received the following strange and upsetting message:

ill give you a coin to delete that thread

I don't know what's going on here.  If this moon unit is the same as the DMT vendor, this concerns me.  Moon Unit is very well vouched-for on this thread, and so I'm unsure what interest he would have in getting rid of it.  Can his account have been hacked?  Is this just some other user impersonating MU?  Maybe he just doesn't want people seeing dmtnexus's circumnavigation of his whole NIX insistence thing.  I'm not sure ... but for safety's sake, I am removing Moon Unit from the 'good' list.  If that's his forum username, he needs to explain himself ... and I wouldn't encourage anyone to order from him until he does.
In regards to MU...when I was messaged by him I noticed that he had a very low post count....hasn't he been around for a few...might be somebody else
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 01 June 2013, 17:53:26
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I've been busily making music for a demo album lately and was listening to the 1.5 songs I have recorded thus far in the effort.  The music was wildly successful with the pharma, and the gods and goddesses approved ... they were essentially telling me (without words) that I make the best DMT music out there.  I became addicted to my own music and listened to the same 9 minutes of music repetitiously for hours.

i make electronic music, and the dmt gods have told me that they were very happy with what they were hearing when i showed them my music, but when i came out of the trip i still had to remind myself "i still need to act like my music sucks and i have tons of room for improvement."

people let psychedelics kind of kill their motivation because they become so "sure" in themselves that they stop growing.
im not saying thats you, im just saying dont let it be you!

Spiral out!

I realise that bit of the report probably sounded very narcissistic, but I wrote it that way because that's the way it happened.  This hasn't made me complacent about the music, but rather just the opposite: I have been working on it intently rather than wasting my free hours watching television and other such nonsense.  Thank you for your encouragement.  +1
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 01 June 2013, 21:03:14
@GGA, some trip, my friend! Some trip! Impressed with your conclusions.
If you do decide to move onto higher planes, please do let us know - I, for one, would like to make sure that OP of this thread does not fall under influence of linux suprematists among us :)

I am worried about MoonUnit after your post. It might be that someone impersonates him, no? MoonUnit, who wrote to me here had 0 posts - hard to believe. It is also hard to believe that someone who spends so much time with spice would be such a bigot - Martin Luther King must be turning in the grave from how creative we are at inventing new segregation principles. Ok we all have opinions, but my PM exchange with him, which I wish I could share in public (I have asked him if I could so lets see if she has balls to allow for this) basically amounted to him insulting me and telling me that I should never even dream from ordering from him. Clearly the guy has not read DPR's manifesto :)

Kudos should go to dmtnexus for cracking this wide open for all of us - I wish I could understand all of the stuff he was saying :)

And I am on tail end of a very nice 2CB trip ... thinking of may be taking a bit of DMT.

Enjoy your tripping days, colleagues!

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 01 June 2013, 21:34:17
@GGA, some trip, my friend! Some trip! Impressed with your conclusions.
If you do decide to move onto higher planes, please do let us know - I, for one, would like to make sure that OP of this thread does not fall under influence of linux suprematists among us :)

I am worried about MoonUnit after your post. It might be that someone impersonates him, no? MoonUnit, who wrote to me here had 0 posts - hard to believe. It is also hard to believe that someone who spends so much time with spice would be such a bigot - Martin Luther King must be turning in the grave from how creative we are at inventing new segregation principles. Ok we all have opinions, but my PM exchange with him, which I wish I could share in public (I have asked him if I could so lets see if she has balls to allow for this) basically amounted to him insulting me and telling me that I should never even dream from ordering from him. Clearly the guy has not read DPR's manifesto :)

Kudos should go to dmtnexus for cracking this wide open for all of us - I wish I could understand all of the stuff he was saying :)

And I am on tail end of a very nice 2CB trip ... thinking of may be taking a bit of DMT.

Enjoy your tripping days, colleagues!



MU often deletes his profile here. If unsure msg his vendor page to be sure. Yummy 2CB, best RC ever invented alongside 4HO-MIPT and 4HO-MET. I get mine from Greenpeas and it is soo good. I did some deems once on the tail of an MDMA followed by 2CB trip, everything was fuzzy and out of focus but it seemed to stitch my nerves back together.
as far as moon unit wanting this thread deleted, that should be obvious. everyone is talking about ways around his rules, so they can trick him into selling to them. i can see why that would bother the man....

lol i mean if he is offering you a coin to take it down he is obviously trying to control his sales...

the people that are here talking about getting around his rules should take down their posts, then he probably wont give a shit.

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I've been busily making music for a demo album lately and was listening to the 1.5 songs I have recorded thus far in the effort.  The music was wildly successful with the pharma, and the gods and goddesses approved ... they were essentially telling me (without words) that I make the best DMT music out there.  I became addicted to my own music and listened to the same 9 minutes of music repetitiously for hours.

i make electronic music, and the dmt gods have told me that they were very happy with what they were hearing when i showed them my music, but when i came out of the trip i still had to remind myself "i still need to act like my music sucks and i have tons of room for improvement."

people let psychedelics kind of kill their motivation because they become so "sure" in themselves that they stop growing.
im not saying thats you, im just saying dont let it be you!

Spiral out!


YES vendors read these threads and if you are trying to break rules maybe saying so here is not such a great idea. Breaking their rules breaks trust and with liberty at stake it's no small deal. I had my moment with MU and after I made my proper amends we have been good so I stand by him as a vendor. Wish I could afford the GVG he has up...

MUSIC!! Love electronic music! Look on clearnet for this artist INVID MIND from Buenos Aires. Totally reminds me of those DMT trips that go fast and furious and super psycedelicious.

GGA all I can say is wow and thx for all you have done for us.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 01 June 2013, 22:20:08
Hey guys...what does it mean when the dmt burns or feels like fire on your lips when inhaling
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 01 June 2013, 22:22:25
by the way...method being used is the volcano
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 01 June 2013, 22:34:20
by the way...method being used is the volcano

try a tiny bit of your DMT on your tongue ... Is this the same feeling/taste?
I suspect yes ... So, you get your vapour condensing before hitting your lungs.
But I have never used volcano, so I might be marking bad
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 01 June 2013, 23:03:35
no condensing on the volcano...plus it is done right after...so no waiting period...still tring to figure it out...will know better tonight when I will launch again 8)....thx anyway Incogmagnito
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 02 June 2013, 00:01:18
@GGA, some trip, my friend! Some trip! Impressed with your conclusions.
If you do decide to move onto higher planes, please do let us know - I, for one, would like to make sure that OP of this thread does not fall under influence of linux suprematists among us :)

I may not have said what I meant quite adequately in regards to yielding this thread.  I am happy to stick around with you all and keep up with things ... as long as nobody minds that I don't actually use SR and may not trip with frequency anymore.  If I was going to leave the thread in someone's hands, you'd have my full support as my successor.  Thanks for the offer and for all your contributions around here. +1
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 02 June 2013, 00:11:13
@GGA, some trip, my friend! Some trip! Impressed with your conclusions.
If you do decide to move onto higher planes, please do let us know - I, for one, would like to make sure that OP of this thread does not fall under influence of linux suprematists among us :)

I may not have said what I meant quite adequately in regards to yielding this thread.  I am happy to stick around with you all and keep up with things ... as long as nobody minds that I don't actually use SR and may not trip with frequency anymore.  If I was going to leave the thread in someone's hands, you'd have my full support as my successor.  Thanks for the offer and for all your contributions around here. +1

Nah, the king is alive - long live the king! Who cares if you use SR or not ... in fact makes you less biased :-)
Look forward to that album getting to number 1 worldwide!!!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 02 June 2013, 00:30:21
Nah, the king is alive - long live the king! Who cares if you use SR or not ... in fact makes you less biased :-)
Look forward to that album getting to number 1 worldwide!!!

LOL.  We'd have to get the whole world into using DMT first (a noble cause, I think).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: TR0N on 02 June 2013, 03:49:48
What's up Deemsters. Finally earned my stripes, so I'm going to use my first post as a Jr. Member to vouch for the vendors I have personally dealt with, and say hello to you all :)

Saw some people asking about DRshrooms a few pages back.

DRshrooms : ordered within last 4 weeks.

I placed the order, and he messaged me right away! Made me feel very comfortable and let me know exactly what was going on on his end. Product shipped and arrived a very short time later.

His prices are great and so is his product. I tried both the yellow and the white, and they are both as strong as any DMT I have sampled!
Highly Recommended.

I also ordered from

Elvis : ordered within last 4 weeks

200 mg listing arrived VERY fast with no issues.
Product was very strong.

Highly Recommended.

And also,

NewTime : ordered within last 4 weeks

.5g Crystal listing

Order arrived promptly, came with a personal message from NewTime, which I thought was awesome, and the product is very strong.

Highly Recommended.

My experience with the Road so far has been great !

I want to try DreaMensioN's DMT next ... a bit pricey but sounds pretty legit ...
I've already ordered his shrooms and that went great too

Go Team  :D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 02 June 2013, 04:10:05
Welcome Tron.....I am doing the same thing with several vendors....but I order 1g to go around 6 people and then average it out....done with a Volcano to make sure there is no mistakes with the spice 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: TR0N on 02 June 2013, 04:24:52
Thank you, it's great to be on board!

Yep, the spice is tricky stuff to 'work' with.  ;)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: alahverdian on 02 June 2013, 14:06:43
going on 11 days since i ordered from RogerPete. so pumped.
but slightly concerned, i haven't had a domestic order take more than a week before.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 02 June 2013, 17:05:10
going on 11 days since i ordered from RogerPete. so pumped.
but slightly concerned, i haven't had a domestic order take more than a week before.
Is it marked in transit and how long has it been like that
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 02 June 2013, 17:19:55
YES vendors read these threads and if you are trying to break rules maybe saying so here is not such a great idea. Breaking their rules breaks trust and with liberty at stake it's no small deal.

If the rule is stupid you would just be a stupid yourself by following it. It's not just because one make up a rule that this last immediately becomes important to follow (see laws on drugs as an example). There's almost no difference at all if you use *NIX or Win/Mac for what it concerns PGP itself so there's surely not an impact on security on this point for MU or anyone else.

It is just an elitist rule of some kind that has no point whatsoever outside of that elitist nature.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 02 June 2013, 17:23:49

If the rule is stupid you would just be a stupid yourself by following it. It's not just because one make up a rule that this last immediately becomes important to follow (see laws on drugs as an example). There's almost no difference at all if you use *NIX or Win/Mac for what it concerns PGP itself so there's surely not an impact on security on this point for MU or anyone else.

linux is known to be more secure and private than windows, although that shouldnt really affect mu too much.

i personally think he is doing it to control the amount of orders he gets....

his listings never last for longer than a day....
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 02 June 2013, 18:07:46

If the rule is stupid you would just be a stupid yourself by following it. It's not just because one make up a rule that this last immediately becomes important to follow (see laws on drugs as an example). There's almost no difference at all if you use *NIX or Win/Mac for what it concerns PGP itself so there's surely not an impact on security on this point for MU or anyone else.

linux is known to be more secure and private than windows, although that shouldnt really affect mu too much.

i personally think he is doing it to control the amount of orders he gets....

his listings never last for longer than a day....

From my exchange with MU he feels that those who use Windows damage the environment by allowing hackers to form botnets out of their computers. So, he must punish them by not selling to them his spice.

In a words of Baz Luhrmann's song "wear sunscreen" - "it is like trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing bubble gum"

Bless him and his fight.
May be he will fathom a bit more intellect and balls to actually do something of note in this field.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 02 June 2013, 18:10:35

In a words of Baz Luhrmann's song "wear sunscreen" - "it is like trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing bubble gum"

loll, +1 for the laugh.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 02 June 2013, 19:09:55
linux is known to be more secure and private than windows, although that shouldnt really affect mu too much.

A Whonix VM using WinXP (for example) is more secure than a simple Ubuntu + ToR. You cannot discriminate these things only by OS, because it depends also on how the OS is used. While *NIX systems are in themselves more secure, it doesn't mean that everybody that doesn't use them is just for this a liability to security, because it is an idiotic simplification.

And anyway we are talking here about PGP and PGP in itself is not more secure because you use it under an *NIX OS, it doesn't make ANY sense.

Not that I care anyway because MU doesn't ship in my Country, but it's a matter of principle. If a thing doesn't make sense it simply doesn't.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 02 June 2013, 19:21:47
linux is known to be more secure and private than windows, although that shouldnt really affect mu too much.

A Whonix VM using WinXP (for example) is more secure than a simple Ubuntu + ToR. You cannot discriminate these things only by OS, because it depends also on how the OS is used. While *NIX systems are in themselves more secure, it doesn't mean that everybody that doesn't use them is just for this a liability to security, because it is an idiotic simplification.

And anyway we are talking here about PGP and PGP in itself is not more secure because you use it under an *NIX OS, it doesn't make ANY sense.

Not that I care anyway because MU doesn't ship in my Country, but it's a matter of principle. If a thing doesn't make sense it simply doesn't.

wise words, indeed.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bobsredmill on 02 June 2013, 19:29:26
moonunit seems to be on one hell of a trip. it's not like he's giving his customers his address. plenty of high quality DMT on the road anyway.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Japan1980 on 02 June 2013, 19:56:30
Hi ALL  8)

I'm relatively new to DMT and always use it with the 'machine' which I find very good and especially easy to use.

I have only bought off two vendors so far, with DRshrooms being the best out the two. Just a question really, who would you guys recommend buying DMT from off SR, basically who is known to be the best DMT vendor on the road, and who else has tried DRshrooms DMT and how highly do they rate it in comparison to other vendors?

Sorry for all the questions, but I've only just discovered this amazing drug and would like to hear more experienced users views.

Regards,
J
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 02 June 2013, 20:17:01
I have only bought off two vendors so far, with DRshrooms being the best out the two. Just a question really, who would you guys recommend buying DMT from off SR, basically who is known to be the best DMT vendor on the road, and who else has tried DRshrooms DMT and how highly do they rate it in comparison to other vendors?

I couldn't try DRShrooms but of the EU vendors I've tried the best IMO are either Multi Exciter or Asylum. Both have outstanding DMT for a fair price and it depends mostly how much DMT you want to buy: if not more than 1g then ME costs less, if more than 1g Asylum is the better bet. As for myself my personal preference goes to ME DMT (the only downside of him/her is s/he doesn't sell in bulk, damn).

But I didn't try all the EU vendors yet (and it can be I neither will since I find myself well with ME and/or Asylum).

Btw if you are interested you can find a trip report of mine with ME DMT in the June Writing Reports Thread in the Discussion forum (and I suggest everyone here to write a report too; the more the better).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 02 June 2013, 20:20:35

And anyway we are talking here about PGP and PGP in itself is not more secure because you use it under an *NIX OS, it doesn't make ANY sense.

Not that I care anyway because MU doesn't ship in my Country, but it's a matter of principle. If a thing doesn't make sense it simply doesn't.
lol well yeah i am not disagreeing with you, im just sure he has some sort of reason as to why he requires people to use linux and i was attempting to see it from his side.

either way moonunit is a pretty friendly guy from my experience.

I do think its a bit ridiculous to require linux but its very obvious that if you want dmt you can get it from somewhere other than moonunit and if thats the case why even bitch about his requirements?

because he has the cheapest listing for a gram, thats why. obviously that is the issue here because there is plenty of awesome dmt on the road but not at that price.


Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DaveTheRave on 02 June 2013, 23:10:32
Ordered some more from dmtnexus, only one other UK seller at the moment who requires FE which I'm loath to do.
Will update once I've tested (full lighter in hand this time).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Japan1980 on 02 June 2013, 23:49:48
Hi ALL  8)

I'm relatively new to DMT and always use it with the 'machine' which I find very good and especially easy to use.

I have only bought off two vendors so far, with DRshrooms being the best out the two. Just a question really, who would you guys recommend buying DMT from off SR, basically who is known to be the best DMT vendor on the road, and who else has tried DRshrooms DMT and how highly do they rate it in comparison to other vendors?

Sorry for all the questions, but I've only just discovered this amazing drug and would like to hear more experienced users views.

Regards,
J

Welcome, Japan! Glad you enjoyed it enough to pop here. Also I am pleased that you are using the machine - my favourite way to vape too :)
I can not say that I have tried many vendors and your choice would also depend on where you are. Check out OP for the info GGA to carefully assembled from bits and bobs we have thrown at him.
But here is my elevator spiel
RogerPete - synthetic and expensive ... yet to hear a bad word, but I have not tried myself
dmtnexus - love this stuff - not the cleanest, but does have an amazing organic and natural feel to it, I get the most amazing visuals from it
PPLLUURR - very good and clean stuff - tried myself
MultiExciter - very clean stuff, cerebral and out-of-this world kinda elfish

But as I have mentioned, OP would have a lot more info and a lot more choice!
Happy vaping!

Thanks to yourself and Blackiris for getting back to me.

I have tried dmtnexus and did enjoy it very much, plus it came with the machine so it saved me having to make one myself so that was a bonus. Although I really enjoyed dmtnexus's DMT I must say I preferred DRshrooms. But I'll check the OP out and shop around a bit, it's interesting to see the differences between vendors and types of DMT.

Sorry for being ignorant - but in layman's terms, what is the main difference between white and yellow DMT? I've tried both and they seem pretty similar, I actually quite like mixing the two together, seems nice and I breakthrough most times when I do this.

I had dinner with a caveman family yesterday, which was awesome. I've also been a piece in the old gameboy game tetris with a gamesmaster sitting next to me telling me which way to move to solve the puzzle - that was also pretty fucking awesome. I just love the fact it's a quick hit unlike LSD and you don't get a comedown. For me that's perfect as I'm a busy person with work etc. so I can occasionally take half hour off to quickly trip my bollocks off then return to work 8) 

P.S. I do owe a special thank-you to BlackIris as I had no clue how to vape it before my first use and she/he explained exactly how to use the machine, and I didn't fuck it up once - now I've got it mastered  :D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: alahverdian on 02 June 2013, 23:57:24
going on 11 days since i ordered from RogerPete. so pumped.
but slightly concerned, i haven't had a domestic order take more than a week before.
Is it marked in transit and how long has it been like that

ordered: May 23, 2013, 1:19 pm UTC
shipped: May 24, 2013, 12:23 am UTC

,,..
.

 :'(
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 03 June 2013, 09:01:15
Sorry for being ignorant - but in layman's terms, what is the main difference between white and yellow DMT? I've tried both and they seem pretty similar, I actually quite like mixing the two together, seems nice and I breakthrough most times when I do this.

Yellow DMT contains DMT-N-Oxide. DMT-n-Oxide pretty much takes a little longer to hit you than DMT and  it lasts longer; as for the effect DMT-n-Oxide feels much more like a more classic psychedelic experience, like the peak of a shroom trip all sped up in comparison to DMT; some people say that DMT-n-Oxide is less potent than DMT, and while this is in part true (depending on what you consider "potency"), they mostly have different effects, subtle to notice, but anyway different. I personally like more DMT because for what I usually have to do it's better, since it is more visionary and "transcendent", especially with eyes closed.

Many people like, as yourself, to mix the two so as to have a sort of of poor harmala + DMT experience in little terms.

P.S. I do owe a special thank-you to BlackIris as I had no clue how to vape it before my first use and she/he explained exactly how to use the machine, and I didn't fuck it up once - now I've got it mastered  :D

No problem, my friend. I'm happy that you have mastered it in no time. DMT is really a substance that everyone should partake of at last once in their life.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 03 June 2013, 21:28:37
Hey guys/gals....has anyone heard from RogerPete lately.....ordered from him on Friday and still says processing
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: VersacePandaEgg on 03 June 2013, 22:21:12
Subbed

Can't wait to get some deemsters  ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 03 June 2013, 23:36:02
Alright my fellow deemsters, i have a little trip report to share, I wrote this on my comedown last night, as soon as the visuals stopped:   It visits me and shows me just the most amazing shapes and "visuals" is the only way that i can describe them as.  It wierd because i KNOW i have seen this "spirit" before on a couple different occasions, but never remembered until now!  At first I felt its presence coming, and it frightened me a bit, but then, it just does something that creates the most AMAZING designs, and i actually was trying to see if it would react to me asking, "Why does our society not accept this?"  but it just kept showing me the most amazing images.  This is one I have seen before with this spice.  -moon unit's last batch, not current, i think...LOL  ;D   

This stuff is truly a gift from GOD
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 04 June 2013, 00:25:46
Should of asked the spirit why MU is soo stuck on NIX....J/K...Did you get an answer?? 8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: i3lazd on 04 June 2013, 17:04:05
best color DMT you have tried? I like white DMT but I just got some redish stuff that is dankk!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: deemtea on 04 June 2013, 17:13:20
Hey guys/gals....has anyone heard from RogerPete lately.....ordered from him on Friday and still says processing


Hello Friends,

Sorry the delay, I've been out camping the last couple of days and finally got caught up on orders/messages. Also, things have been rather hectic the last couple weeks, so orders have been slow coming out.  Things are all caught up and back to normal now though.  Thank you for the patience!

--Dee (RP)--
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 04 June 2013, 17:14:22
RP is the man!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 04 June 2013, 17:42:15
Hey guys/gals....has anyone heard from RogerPete lately.....ordered from him on Friday and still says processing


Hello Friends,

Sorry the delay, I've been out camping the last couple of days and finally got caught up on orders/messages. Also, things have been rather hectic the last couple weeks, so orders have been slow coming out.  Things are all caught up and back to normal now though.  Thank you for the patience!

--Dee (RP)--
Thx RP...looking forward to it....and Edawg....thx for the heads up on the Volcano....working so much better....doesnt even need that much to blast off
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Intraterrestrial on 04 June 2013, 18:04:21
Had another blast on Multi Exciter's dmt last night....around 45-50mg carefully using the sandwich method...beautiful colourful ecstatic dmt -wow
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ElDude on 04 June 2013, 18:06:38
Received my 1g order from Fractalbliss yesterday, having some trouble blasting off though. I've used the 2 liter/foil method with little success, and also tried sandwiching in between layers of bud, and had a bit more success. Doses were measured out at 40mg each try. I want to make a machine, but don't want to spend $30 on some nasty ass Hennessy I'll never drink, anybody know other bottles that work well?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DaveTheRave on 04 June 2013, 18:12:18
Any 5cl / miniature (or larger) bottle you can drill through should be fine.
The ones with a concave base ending in an acute angle are easier to drill as your drill bit is less likely to slip.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 04 June 2013, 18:44:29
Received my 1g order from Fractalbliss yesterday, having some trouble blasting off though. I've used the 2 liter/foil method with little success, and also tried sandwiching in between layers of bud, and had a bit more success. Doses were measured out at 40mg each try. I want to make a machine, but don't want to spend $30 on some nasty ass Hennessy I'll never drink, anybody know other bottles that work well?

The bottle/foil is just a total waste. Never do it.
The machine is very easy to do, whatever mini alcohol bottle would do. You don't either need a drill (also if naturally it's better to use one), just using a screwdriver works the same if you put the bottle on an hard surface and you hit with an hammer hard and speedy (pass the screwdriver from the neck of the bottle, and put the tip of screwdriver on an angle, not on the center, is much better - then with an hammer do a speedy jab). Even if you break too much you can always tape the excesses, it works the same.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 04 June 2013, 18:58:22
Received my 1g order from Fractalbliss yesterday, having some trouble blasting off though. I've used the 2 liter/foil method with little success, and also tried sandwiching in between layers of bud, and had a bit more success. Doses were measured out at 40mg each try. I want to make a machine, but don't want to spend $30 on some nasty ass Hennessy I'll never drink, anybody know other bottles that work well?

just sandwich more than 50 mgs, and when you light it dont touch the flame to the top layer of bud. keep it about an inch away and take extremely slow delicate hits, till the top layer finally ignites with a cherry. maybe consider pushing the bowl down once it gets cherried so it stays cherried. that will be much better than having to light it again(for the sake of the dmt)
hold your hits in for as long as possible. if you get a good enough rip of dmt (vapor) it will allow you to hold your breath for an abnormally long amount of time. burning it, however, causes a very harsh taste and ruins the process altogether.

remember, super slow gentle hits, that you hold in for as long as possible. without touching the flame to anything  :)

ive always had way more success with smoking it in a bowl with weed than i have in a vaporizer.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 04 June 2013, 19:28:21
ive always had way more success with smoking it in a bowl with weed than i have in a vaporizer.

The problem is: you waste a lot more, as it is evidenced in your post. More than 50mg it is a very heavy dose using something like a machine (20-30mg is enough there), with the sandwich method if you go lower than 50 you will probably not breakthrough.

Btw learning to use the machine is really really simple.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Moondog on 04 June 2013, 19:33:01
Hey guys!  I'm trying to enterprise, and get my name out there.  I have high quality DMT at the best price.  I only have a vendor account at Atlantis since it's all I could afford, but I'm trying to sell my recent batch of DMT so I can start an account here at SR.  There's just not enough traffic over there at the moment.  I know SR can benefit from having me, so I'm coming straight to the most respectable DMT review thread around.  Any help would be appreciated.
Here is my link  [CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion/item/view/107eab68b3.

If you have strong forum presense and a good rep,  I would be willing to entertain free sample offers in exchange for reviews.  I know you won't be disappointed.  Thanks for your time.  Looking forward to doing business here.   ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 04 June 2013, 19:42:55
ive always had way more success with smoking it in a bowl with weed than i have in a vaporizer.

The problem is: you waste a lot more, as it is evidenced in your post. More than 50mg it is a very heavy dose using something like a machine (20-30mg is enough there), with the sandwich method if you go lower than 50 you will probably not breakthrough.

Btw learning to use the machine is really really simple.
false, dont make assumptions.

im telling him to up his dose because when you first start out its hard to get right.

when i put 50 mgs on the money in a bowl, i hit it three times for a blast off and when i come back to the bowl i will have plenty of dmt left. i've had to empty out the bowl because the previous blast-off mindfucked me so hard and i felt as though i didnt need any more.

i personally think using bud as a screen like that can be just as efficient as a vaporizer/the machine, if you do it properly.
although dont get me wrong i havent used the machine im just saying, i havent felt the need to.
my method works just fine and i am much more resourceful than most people i know  :P
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Minchia on 04 June 2013, 19:47:51
The bottle/foil is just a total waste. Never do it.

do you mean by bottle/foil this?  (post #25)
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/639746-BEST-way-to-smoke-DMT?p=11231628&viewfull=1#post11231628

if yes, why do you think it is a total waste? i've had great success with it, even with 30mg.

cheers minchia
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 04 June 2013, 19:52:22
Hey guys!  I'm trying to enterprise, and get my name out there.  I have high quality DMT at the best price.  I only have a vendor account at Atlantis since it's all I could afford, but I'm trying to sell my recent batch of DMT so I can start an account here at SR.  There's just not enough traffic over there at the moment.  I know SR can benefit from having me, so I'm coming straight to the most respectable DMT review thread around.  Any help would be appreciated.
Here is my link  [CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion/item/view/107eab68b3.

If you have strong forum presense and a good rep,  I would be willing to entertain free sample offers in exchange for reviews.  I know you won't be disappointed.  Thanks for your time.  Looking forward to doing business here.   ;D
I am testing out several vendor by next week amongst 6 people and will post the results....I am up for a free sample and we will review it ....Dmt list so far...Fractalbliss Rogerpete Drshrooms Vatican BigBlack and some of TA2E changa to break things up alittle 8) 8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 04 June 2013, 19:58:35
The bottle/foil is just a total waste. Never do it.
The machine is very easy to do, whatever mini alcohol bottle would do. You don't either need a drill (also if naturally it's better to use one), just using a screwdriver works the same if you put the bottle on an hard surface and you hit with an hammer hard and speedy (pass the screwdriver from the neck of the bottle, and put the tip of screwdriver on an angle, not on the center, is much better - then with an hammer do a speedy jab). Even if you break too much you can always tape the excesses, it works the same.
Incorrect. If you hold the bottle in your left hand, only 2 strong taps are needed in order to break a hole. By putting it on a hard surface as per your recommendation, many more will be needed and you are more likely to break the bottle.

A small screwdriver works best as the hole will never be too big. If it's too small, just continue with a bigger screwdriver.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 04 June 2013, 21:25:10
false, dont make assumptions.

It's not an assumption. There's no way you will EVER no waste some via the sandwich method. It's simply physics, my friend. Some will burn inevitably and some will get lost in the ash/herb, and some will get wasted in the multiple tokes. There's nothing to do about it.

With a brillo the steel transfer the heat all around and creates the vapor immediately, to then cool very fast and condense the DMT again (in case you did something wrong and you didn't vaporize all the DMT at once, but usually this can happen only at beginning). You waste nothing and you get everything of it in ONE hit.

when i put 50 mgs on the money in a bowl, i hit it three times for a blast off and when i come back to the bowl i will have plenty of dmt left. i've had to empty out the bowl because the previous blast-off mindfucked me so hard and i felt as though i didnt need any more.

Good. With a machine you need only ONE hit of 20-30 mg to "blast off". Good luck on doing the same with the sandwich. You need three tokes because you cannot transfer the heat immediately on all the DMT, and by making more than one toke you inevitably lose some effect.

i personally think using bud as a screen like that can be just as efficient as a vaporizer/the machine, if you do it properly.

It's not the same thing. It's the modus operandi of the brillo that's the important part, the same as for the volcano or the genie. You CANNOT obtain that result with a simple screen above/below. The only way to obtain something similar with a piepe would be to use a piece of red-hot coal little enough to pass from the opening of the pipe but blocking at the right distance for the DMT to melt continuously and not burn; but either in this way the heat transfer of ash (or even worse an herb) is not the same as a brillo.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 04 June 2013, 21:32:38
Incorrect. If you hold the bottle in your left hand, only 2 strong taps are needed in order to break a hole. By putting it on a hard surface as per your recommendation, many more will be needed and you are more likely to break the bottle.

I'm sorry but before saying to me that I'm "incorrect" maybe you should study a little some physics laws (the word get used a lot today, isn't it?). By holding the bottle in an hand you amortize the hit, hence making the blow much more soft and slow. If you tap correctly (swift and fast) on an hard surface at an angle you break it immediately (one hit ONLY is necessary) with just a little hole. It is just more probable, in fact, that you will do MORE damage the less friction you have on the blow.

But it naturally also depends on where you want to make the hole. If you want to make it in the center than the hard surface will not work because the friction will make the bottom to collapse.

Physics, as mathematics, is not tied to opinion.

A small screwdriver works best as the hole will never be too big. If it's too small, just continue with a bigger screwdriver.

An awl or an ice-breaker is even better.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 04 June 2013, 22:08:59
I'm sorry but before saying to me that I'm "incorrect" maybe you should study a little some physics laws (the word get used a lot today, isn't it?). By holding the bottle in an hand you amortize the hit, hence making the blow much more soft and slow. If you tap correctly (swift and fast) on an hard surface at an angle you break it immediately (one hit ONLY is necessary) with just a little hole. It is just more probable, in fact, that you will do MORE damage the less friction you have on the blow.

Physics, as mathematics, is not tied to opinion.
Sometimes, practice contradicts theory. In such cases, theory is wrong. I've made over 100 of these pipes and I know for a fact that a hard surface does not help, quite the opposite. Also, you end up making quite a lot of noise in the process. If you can break the hole with only one hit, you must be hitting very hard indeed.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 04 June 2013, 22:17:00
Dmtnexus does the hole in the BOTTOM of the pipe, I was talking about making it in an ANGLE. The two things are not the same at all.

I suggested the other guy to make the hole at an angle because making it at the center without a drill is tricky. You need a good hand or you really risk of destroying all the bottom (you can always tape it, sure, but why risking it?).

I think many people here are simply brought in subjection by some vendors. If a vendor says an incorrect thing (again, physics is NOT a matter of opinion) then the vendor says an incorrect thing, no matter who the hell s/he is or does. I actually think that DMTNexus didn't read well what I wrote and s/he assumed that I was talking about making an hole in the center and in that case s/he would have been correct, but I wasn't talking about making an hole in the center.

So, no meaning to disrespect you, but when I talk of a thing it is because I know that thing perfectly or I don't talk, and I can assure you that I never lost an argument with anybody on a thing I know.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 04 June 2013, 22:19:19
I've made over 100 of these pipes and I know for a fact that a hard surface does not help, quite the opposite.

Again, WHERE do you make the hole? I've seen your pipes and I see perfectly where you make it.
At an angle it is a different thing.

There's not theory for what it concerns physics. Physics laws are based on practice. Never heard about Newton?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 04 June 2013, 22:29:16
BlackIris, no disrespect but since my first machine was from dmtnexus and I trust that he made more of them than all of us reading this thread together, I would check with him how he does it before telling him off.

So, dmtnexus, how do you do this magic?
Both the bottle and the screwdriver must be held in your left hand. The tip of the screwdriver must be pointed to the weak spot in the middle and be held between your thumb and index finger. Then with your right hand, strongly hit the screwdriver with a hammer a few times.

If you end up with glass pieces inside that are too big to fit through either the neck or the hole, continue with a bigger screwdriver and/or point the tip not inside the hole but around it before hitting with a hammer again.

I always use 3cl Martell cognac bottles as they have a weak spot. 5cl Hennessys bottles have a weak spot too but this 'weak spot' is much stronger, so I don't recommend them. Other bottles don't have a weak spot, so you must drill them.

Perfect results every time!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 04 June 2013, 22:31:57
Again, WHERE do you make the hole? I've seen your pipes and I see perfectly where you make it.
At an angle it is a different thing.

There's not theory for what it concerns physics. Physics laws are based on practice. Never heard about Newton?
You are right. I didn't realise you're talking about making the hole at an angle. My sincere apologies.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 05 June 2013, 00:03:54
Doh, shame I can never find these 3cl Martell bottles and end up drilling :-)
Your original machine is quite literally blocked up, so I am thinking of getting some acetone to extract all the DMT stuck on it and replacing the mesh for a steel one. Any tips or advice on this?
Are you sure there's any DMT in it? I would dispose of it if I were you. The DMT will have oxidised by being exposed to heat, so after evaporating the acetone you won't end up with crystals but oil. Scraping it up will be next to impossible.

You can always make changa though.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Theory on 05 June 2013, 00:11:16
Looking for the best domestic dmt vendor any suggestions?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Moondog on 05 June 2013, 00:14:15
Hey guys!  I'm trying to enterprise, and get my name out there.  I have high quality DMT at the best price.  I only have a vendor account at Atlantis since it's all I could afford, but I'm trying to sell my recent batch of DMT so I can start an account here at SR.  There's just not enough traffic over there at the moment.  I know SR can benefit from having me, so I'm coming straight to the most respectable DMT review thread around.  Any help would be appreciated.
Here is my link  [CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion/item/view/107eab68b3.

If you have strong forum presense and a good rep,  I would be willing to entertain free sample offers in exchange for reviews.  I know you won't be disappointed.  Thanks for your time.  Looking forward to doing business here.   ;D

Moondog, welcome!

Good to have you here.

I know that Atlantis and BMR do have cheaper vendors accounts, but I, for one, has been reluctant to open yet another account (on Atlantis) - so if you come to SR I think everyone here would be delighted. Getting few reviews will certainly get you into the OP, which would be great for you, I think.

Best of luck and hope to see you on SR soon.
Will you be shipping worldwide?
What tek do you use and what spice quality do you sell?

Yeah getting on the OP would be great!  I have to wait to raise the money to start an account,  hence the cheaper account.   I stand by my product 100%.  I will be shipping only domestic to start off, but am researching incorporating a few more countries if all goes well.  I use a STB tek,  and my spice is 98% white always,  if not all the way.  I refuse to sell anything less.  If it's not up to par I recrystallize it however many times to bring it up to par.  I will not sell brown spice. 

Thanks for responding ingogmagnito!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: coglac on 05 June 2013, 02:39:39
Fractalbliss is my go to for USA domestic. I highly recomed mahakala and JOR if you decide to go international or domestic to you is the EU.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 05 June 2013, 09:40:37
Hey guys!  I'm trying to enterprise, and get my name out there.  I have high quality DMT at the best price.  I only have a vendor account at Atlantis since it's all I could afford, but I'm trying to sell my recent batch of DMT so I can start an account here at SR.  There's just not enough traffic over there at the moment.  I know SR can benefit from having me, so I'm coming straight to the most respectable DMT review thread around.  Any help would be appreciated.
Here is my link  [CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion/item/view/107eab68b3.

If you have strong forum presense and a good rep,  I would be willing to entertain free sample offers in exchange for reviews.  I know you won't be disappointed.  Thanks for your time.  Looking forward to doing business here.   ;D

Moondog, as I said in the other thread I think your best course of action here is to chose some people in this thread and send some FREE samples (remember that outside of a vendor account you cannot ask any sum of money out of SR, but you can naturally send a free sample to who you want) when you have built a little of money to have a review of your product.

Frankly I don't think that many of the good reviewers that you want to address will create an Atlantis account, for various motives (there is also a certain doubt on Atlantis in itself to begin with with many people).

So if I were you I would try to collect some money at last to give some free samples for some people of your choice here and then, when you have a little of a name, start collecting even more money till you can start an account in SR (and at that point your name will talk for you and you will start a market in no time). If your product is really good I'm also sure people could even create an Atlantis account just to buy it, but as it is now I don't think (sadly, but I'm being honest) that many will do, especially here in the SR.

Also remember that the money you spend for the SR account is refundable after a month, but I can understand that if you are poor that money can seem a lot.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 05 June 2013, 09:52:13
and I can assure you that I never lost an argument with anybody on a thing I know.

 ::)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 05 June 2013, 10:17:29
and I can assure you that I never lost an argument with anybody on a thing I know.

 ::)

There are many things I don't know (a lot in fact), many more than those that I know, actually. Sometimes I would like to have the possibility of being immortal for the things I would like to learn and I cannot, given the lack of time at my disposal.

I could learn a thing in an "hobbyist" way, but I couldn't stand not being able to perfect it - it's in my nature (for example while I liked very much the piano I never started taking lessons and learn to play it because I knew that at the age I got interested in it I would not have had the possibility of becoming extremely good on it, so I did prefer to neither start; I'm a very self-critic person and I couldn't tolerate not being perfect in it).

However for the very little things I know, I have no need to fake humility or modesty just because false modesty is hypocrisy which in turn is one of the worst forms of morality, which I detest.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Minchia on 05 June 2013, 10:47:30
and I can assure you that I never lost an argument with anybody on a thing I know.

 ::)

There are many things I don't know (a lot in fact), many more than those that I know, actually. Sometimes I would like to have the possibility of being immortal for the things I would like to learn and I cannot, given the lack of time at my disposal.

I could learn a thing in an "hobbyist" way, but I couldn't stand not being able to perfect it - it's in my nature (for example while I liked very much the piano I never started taking lessons and learn to play it because I knew that at the age I got interested in it I would not have had the possibility of becoming extremely good on it, so I did prefer to neither start; I'm a very self-critic person and I couldn't tolerate not being perfect in it).

However for the very little things I know, I have no need to fake humility or modesty just because false modesty is hypocrisy which in turn is one of the worst forms of morality, which I detest.

the object of a discussion is 'finding the truth' not 'being right'.
sadly in our times it is mostly the other way around. we could learn quiet a few things from the ancient Greeks ...

also those things one thinks are 100% certain, sometimes aren't. therefore engaging in a discussion with 100% certainty isn't most of the times productive. since you are a very self critic person you may agree with me on this thought. :)

cheers minchia
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 05 June 2013, 12:11:07
and I can assure you that I never lost an argument with anybody on a thing I know.

 ::)

There are many things I don't know (a lot in fact), many more than those that I know, actually. Sometimes I would like to have the possibility of being immortal for the things I would like to learn and I cannot, given the lack of time at my disposal.

I could learn a thing in an "hobbyist" way, but I couldn't stand not being able to perfect it - it's in my nature (for example while I liked very much the piano I never started taking lessons and learn to play it because I knew that at the age I got interested in it I would not have had the possibility of becoming extremely good on it, so I did prefer to neither start; I'm a very self-critic person and I couldn't tolerate not being perfect in it).

However for the very little things I know, I have no need to fake humility or modesty just because false modesty is hypocrisy which in turn is one of the worst forms of morality, which I detest.

the object of a discussion is 'finding the truth' not 'being right'.
sadly in our times it is mostly the other way around. we could learn quiet a few things from the ancient Greeks ...

also those things one thinks are 100% certain, sometimes aren't. therefore engaging in a discussion with 100% certainty isn't most of the times productive. since you are a very self critic person you may agree with me on this thought. :)

cheers minchia

+1

BlackIris, good to have you here and contribute.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 05 June 2013, 13:04:32
the object of a discussion is 'finding the truth' not 'being right'.

There are some things that are not tied to abstract concepts into which different opinions and researches can give different interpretations where you can look to "find a truth". If person A says to person B that the Paradise Lost is written by Blake and the other say it is written by Milton, one will be right and the other wrong; in this example person A will be wrong and B right.

In practical concerns with an already established truth (so not a "truth" to find) there is who is right and there is who is wrong.

sadly in our times it is mostly the other way around. we could learn quiet a few things from the ancient Greeks ...

When you talk about "ancient Greeks" you talk about philosophy (as in Socrates or Euripides) primarily, that is based in different researches and opinions on matters into which a "truth" cannot be established in absolute terms, just because an universal truth in philosophical terms cannot exist. For concepts as mathematics or physics (or even simply the discernment of a fact) the thing is completely different.

also those things one thinks are 100% certain, sometimes aren't.

Some things ARE 100% certain. Thinking that everything is subject to opinion is a naive concept, even from a pure philosophical ground. Read Heiddeger or Adorno concerning this.

therefore engaging in a discussion with 100% certainty isn't most of the times productive.

On the contrary what is mostly unproductive is when you fake humility just because you want to gather consensus. There's nothing wrong on fighting for what you think is right, either if the right is based upon purely philosophical concepts (so the starting presumption is that there cannot be a truth to begin with). The universe is built upon conflict. Without conflict of atoms energy (and so in turn life) would not exist.

As long as you respect the other individual and treat him/her with the same importance (and so what s/he says) as you do with yourself (and what you say), there is nothing "bad" about it. What can be bad in this case is not on one of the two wanting to be right, but the feeling of superiority that this gives in certain cases; while the two can at times be tied (for the fault of the individual), they aren't one the result of the other, at all - actually if you think you are right and you fake humility you will much probably give rise by and by on the feeling of superiority; if you are kin to bow your head to someone you will want someone else to do the same with you at one point or another.

Btw, Socrates himself (as narrated by Plato) fought many times to be right in pure philosophical terms, giving rise to rhetoric.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 05 June 2013, 13:18:58
+1 to Minchia.

I was a physics major for a while during my undergrad ... and so I "know" a lot of physics.  The problem is: physics is uncertain (and not just because of Heisenberg).  Science is capable of giving us a reasonably good approximation of what we can expect to observe under fairly precise circumstances ... but by its very nature, it is entirely predicated on the assumption that future observations will conform to the pattern of the observations accumulated in the past.  Even if this assumption were true, it is totally impossible to control all variables simultaneously, and science is simply not capable of providing 100% certainty about anything.

Contrast this with mathematics.  In maths, one starts with definitions and axioms and through pure logic deduces the consequences of the definitions and axioms one has made.  Every theorem is completely tautological, and thus totally certain.  The trade-off is that one no longer has any guarantee that the definitions he has made are relevant to anything outside this closed system of thought.

I know certain things.  I do count mathematics as knowledge ... but the knowledge I have that is directly relevant to my experience is limited to things which are not expressible in words.  People claim to "know" a lot of things that are impossible to actually know.  I admit to being guilty of abusing this word along with everyone else ... but it's best not to get too full of yourself over these things, because reality has a deep passion for surprising us.

@BlackIris: Euripides was a playwright, not a philosopher.  Also: that 'Paradise Lost' was written by Milton is merely hearsay ... it's a story we all collectively agree on, but utterly impossible to know with anything that even approaches certainty.  I do agree with your point about false humility, but at the same time, pursuing this argument this far shows a type of ego which could be done without ... regardless of whether your initial point was right or wrong.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 05 June 2013, 13:40:53
I was a physics major for a while during my undergrad ... and so I "know" a lot of physics.  The problem is: physics is uncertain (and not just because of Heisenberg).  Science is capable of giving us a reasonably good approximation of what we can expect to observe under fairly precise circumstances ... but by its very nature, it is entirely predicated on the assumption that future observations will conform to the pattern of the observations accumulated in the past.  Even if this assumption were true, it is totally impossible to control all variables simultaneously, and science is simply not capable of providing 100% certainty about anything.

It's true that physics laws are in continue evolution, just because the methods of science are, but there are certain base physics laws that are unquestionably truth. The law of gravity in it basic form cannot be disputed for what it concerns this material plane.

Contrast this with mathematics.  In maths, one starts with definitions and axioms and through pure logic deduces the consequences of the definitions and axioms one has made.  Every theorem is completely tautological, and thus totally certain.  The trade-off is that one no longer has any guarantee that the definitions he has made are relevant to anything outside this closed system of thought.

So you said "+1" to what he said and now you contradicted what he said.  :o
Again, there are some things that indeed are tied to opinions or abstract concepts into which a truth cannot be established, but there are many others which aren't in the same category, so pretending that one cannot be right in absolute terms is a naive concept at best.

Btw, isn't in the same way saying that "one cannot say to be right because one can only search the truth" a statement that ties in itself the presumption you are "right" in what you are saying (i.e. that one cannot be right and one must search the truth)?

@BlackIris: Euripides was a playwright, not a philosopher.  I do agree with your point about false humility, but at the same time, pursuing this argument this far shows a type of ego which could be done without ... regardless of whether your initial point was right or wrong.

A writer in Ancient Greece was like a philosopher; the same Iliade and Odisseus of Omero has been analyzed in pure philosophical terms by many philosophers. In ancient Greece "roles" where not so distinct as they are today. Euripides tragedies are today considered pure philosophy by many authors and in some universities they are studied as such.

I like to have a debate and I'm always open to it. One person replied to what I said, I found the concept interesting in philosophical terms and I replied. If this means I have a "big ego" for you, so be it.

EDIT: As for the "Paradise Lost" being "a story we all collectively agree but utterly impossible to know with anything  that even approaches certainty" are you serious? There are manuscripts of Milton of the Paradise Lost, of what the hell are you talking about? Milton was still alive when the poem got published the first time in 1667. Oh well...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 05 June 2013, 14:24:37
EDIT: As for the "Paradise Lost" being "a story we all collectively agree but utterly impossible to know with anything  that even approaches certainty" are you serious? There are manuscripts of Milton of the Paradise Lost, of what the hell are you talking about? Milton was still alive when the poem got published the first time in 1667. Oh well...

This really should be obvious.  Just because your copy of 'Paradise Lost' has the name Milton on it doesn't mean you KNOW he wrote it.  Even if you had the original manuscript with his signature at the bottom in front of you, that's not proof that Milton wrote this poem.  The only person who could possibly know that Milton wrote it is Milton himself ... and he doesn't seem to be around at the moment. -_o

It's very much a mistake to confuse history with fact.  It did all 'happen' in a sense ... but at the same time, what we call history is just a fiction.  The past is only a convenient lie we tell ourselves to account for our existence in the moment.

I didn't mean to insult you with my comment about ego ... I only mean to say that this persisting need to assert your 'rightness' will not contribute to your happiness.  Anyway, I've said my piece, and I won't junk up the thread by continuing the argument any further.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 05 June 2013, 15:35:02
The only person who could possibly know that Milton wrote it is Milton himself ... and he doesn't seem to be around at the moment. -_o

Oh... but he said it, in fact (in diaries and letters), other contemporaries of him talked about the poem, and the manuscripts have his established calligraphy.

It's very much a mistake to confuse history with fact.  It did all 'happen' in a sense ... but at the same time, what we call history is just a fiction.  The past is only a convenient lie we tell ourselves to account for our existence in the moment.

I understand what you mean, but it is like when you talk about reality and people (usually coming from a new-age background) tells you "all reality, what you perceive, feel and do is relative because everything is contained in the Self"; this is the pow of the Hindus and it's perfectly fine, in fact - in the whole sense. The problem is that there's a "whole" and a "specific" sense in everything and mixing the two thinking they should be the same is a fast way to become too dense.

While it can be true that everything is contained in the self, at the same time it is true that for what it concerns practical interactions in the material plane the kitchen sink is not a part of yourself since you can interact with it in ways that you cannot, normally, with yourself. If everytime you would need to use the kitchen sink somebody would yell to you "why do you use the kitchen sink, don't you understand that it is just part of the Self?" how much time you will last before you yell in return "omg, go f**k yourself for heaven's sake"?

For what it concerns history, so, in the whole sense I can understand what you mean, but in the practical sense there are, indeed, facts in history, because we have ways to prove those facts as being what it really happened. Historical proof is, in fact, a way to acknowledge if something is empirical proof instead of anecdotal one (as for example in establishing if a certain papyri is indeed tied to the specific period of time the thing in it are supposedly written).

I only mean to say that this persisting need to assert your 'rightness' will not contribute to your happiness.

I've tried to explain that it's not the fact of asserting your "righteousness" on a thing that cause strive, it is teeing with it a feeling of superiority, but the two are not one the result of the other.

Sadly you didn't reply to my mistaken use of the English language of before (Iliad and Homer vs. Iliade and Omero), or I would have shown this practically to you. Would have you pointing out my mistake have meant that you did feel yourself superior to me or would doing so made you unhappy? Would you have had to not point out that mistake because everything is relative and the truth is just a point of view in every case? Naturally not, because I was wrong in my spelling, isn't it?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 05 June 2013, 16:01:06
Sadly you didn't reply to my mistaken use of the English language of before (Iliad and Homer vs. Iliade and Omero), or I would have shown this practically to you. Would have you pointing out my mistake have meant that you did feel yourself superior to me or would doing so made you unhappy? Would you have had to not point out that mistake because everything is relative and the truth is just a point of view in every case? Naturally not, because I was wrong in my spelling, isn't it?

Okay ... you've baited me into one more reply (but then I'm seriously moving on).  I was never arguing that there are no such things as 'correct' and 'incorrect'.  The epistemological point I was making is that many subjects about which people like to talk in factual terms do not actually admit certainty.  The sciences, history, sociology, etc, are perfectly good and legitimate things to study ... and they genuinely do inform; however, they inherently cannot provide certainty.

I correct people often (it's part of my job).  It doesn't make me feel superior and it doesn't make me unhappy ... I do it to be helpful, and the only feeling involved is satisfaction when the other person appreciates my help.  I didn't correct your spelling because it would have been a pointless nit to pick.  It wasn't because I didn't notice it or because I don't think there are such things as wrong spellings---I just didn't care (because ... why the hell would I?).

It's true that physics laws are in continue evolution, just because the methods of science are, but there are certain base physics laws that are unquestionably truth. The law of gravity in it basic form cannot be disputed for what it concerns this material plane.

I will reiterate my point.  It is certainly true that gravity exists.  By that, I mean that I am currently being held in my chair by a force I choose to call 'gravity'.  I am experiencing its effects, and thus I know it is there.  I speculate that in the future gravity will continue to exist and behave in a more or less predictable manner ... but I can't be certain about that.

If we want to be more precise, the uncertainty grows.  The 'universal law of gravitation' from Newtonian mechanics seems to describe the effects of gravity well in a non-relativistic framework on a sub-cosmic and super-quantum  scale.  Einstein's general theory of relativity is a good description which accounts for relativistic speeds, but no one is really sure what gravity is like on very large or very small scales.  It has been speculated that on a cosmic scale, gravity may be repulsive rather than attractive.  Also, general relativity and quantum theory are two of the most well-verified physical theories around, but when one tries to model gravity on a quantum scale, the two turn out to be incompatible.  Even if this problem is fixed (say, by string theory), there will be no way to be certain that the new model is totally accurate.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 05 June 2013, 16:48:24
I correct people often (it's part of my job).  It doesn't make me feel superior and it doesn't make me unhappy ... I do it to be helpful, and the only feeling involved is satisfaction when the other person appreciates my help.

That's what I wanted to arrive to, in fact. "Wanting to be right" (in its neutral concept of pointing what you know and standing by it if you think is correct) is not bad per se, it is the approach you use that changes everything, as in all things. There are no "bad" things per se, everything is neutral in itself, it is the use you make of it that turns that thing in something or something else.

I'm always open to be proven wrong or change my mind in topics, it is just that it doesn't happen many times for the things I know about (and that can be correct or incorrect) simply because I don't like to talk of things I've not studied very well before. But this doesn't mean that I will stand by what I say even in front of evidence of the contrary or not consider as much as valid other points when the discussion is more based upon point of views, that would be idiocy. Stale water putrefies easily.

  I didn't correct your spelling because it would have been a pointless nit to pick.  It wasn't because I didn't notice it or because I don't think there are such things as wrong spellings---I just didn't care (because ... why the hell would I?).

I did that mistake appositely for you to nit pick it and try to talk about the fact that there was nothing bad on pointing my mistake. You did break everything, damn you ;)

Anyway we are going to much off-topic now for the thread. I like to talk of these things in general but I get that this is not the right place to do so, so I will too stop the debate here, no matter what (that means that if somebody will reply I would have to combat my instinct of jumping again in the discussion... sob).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 06 June 2013, 00:01:06
+1 to GSE

Please, everyone, do not respond to BlackIris - this turns this thread into a debating contest.

BlackIris, please, do look inside your heart and ask yourself if it important for you to feel that you have beat someone in the debate.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 06 June 2013, 21:11:41
To all the folks wondering the best way to drill the hole for the machine my experience was to go to the hardware store and look for a diamond glass/ceramic bit. Get a glass hennessey or vodka airplane bottle (some liquor stores only keep plastic so go to the top shelf store in town)
Use a cordless drill at the sink and at medium speed drill in the divot at the base with the drill tip in drizzling water to cool and remove the ground glass. Don't push hard and be very patient. Heat from friction and pressure will fuck it up. It's gonna take a few minutes but you will have a perfect hole. Rinse thoroughly. I use pure stainless steel scrubber instead of copper chore. Tried both and like the steel best but either way if you don't heat it red thoroughly before inserting in the neck you are in for a lung full of bullshit you will regret. THE OP has the best machine method from dmtnexus' post. Following that direction I am now able to maximize my experience.

To the MU naysayers I just have to say if you can order there do so. If not there are plenty others to choose from and just accept it and do so until you can. Everyone has their policies. Bitching is not going to change anything except your ability to buy there. Bottom line on his product is that it is legit, stealth and he won't fuck you over. Study hard work hard and be good mkay?

Can we have less debate and more INTERGALACTIC reports kids? I LOVE to read your hyperspace journals!

I will have a couple new reports for your lively entertainment soon when I write them. Had the scary teacher come agian... ;) I am on the road for a couple weeks so see you when I can brothers and sisters!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 06 June 2013, 21:43:59
princeblack, agreed
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Serenity on 07 June 2013, 01:00:26
I don't know how Moon Unit is not on this list. His is the best DMT I've had off the road and his prices are amazing as well.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 07 June 2013, 02:24:38
Can we have less debate and more INTERGALACTIC reports kids? I LOVE to read your hyperspace journals!

i could leave a few little trip reports, obviously the memory gets shattered in that state but there is always something magical that i can pull out with me and its fun to share those things.

i think the most jarring blast off ive had *recently* was on bigblacks dmt.

i put 50 mgs in my bubbler and began to take long slow hits. after the i take in the first i take in my breath and hold it for about 10 seconds before i start hearing a loud ringing in my ears. i blow it out and upon looking at my room,i see that it looks as if its made out of big geometric rubber puzzle pieces. the entire room/floor was made of this material and it was all locked in/connected, but no longer the normal room i was in before. i took the second hit and the third immediately after to get it all in at once.
as soon as i blew out the third hit an atmosphere built itself around me. i had no choice but to go limp and accept what was about to happen.

i saw a huge purple wheel with white alien-like text written on different pannels of it roll up, and an entity came up and gave it a spin. as this was happening multiple entities were gathering in the backround and they started to poke fun at me, saying "oh we've got a tough guy over here" and from there i sort of blacked out while in this place.

at the very end of this blast off and being in this physical place, i remember feeling as though i was on a sort of zipline, but i was being directed somewhere by something. i eventually turned and was facing a wall with different windowpane-like objects, and this zipline threw me directly into one. as soon as i hit it, i felt as though i was thrown back into my body.

upon that happening i really thought about how they say that thats the realm where souls wait to reincarnate into other bodies. i truly felt like this could have some deep truth to it. i thought about how my body is my current incarnation so i obviously came back to it for that reason, but it seemed like those other windowpane-like things were other incarnations waiting for a soul.

that one definitely has me looking at the world in a very different way...

another good blast off i had not too long ago was on moonunits dmt, while peaking on amt.
i probably remember even less from this one, but i did get something valuable out of it so ill share that.

a day or two before this experience i had watched a terence mckenna video and he says "pay attention to what they are doing", so i went into the experience with that in mind.

i sat on my floor in a meditative position with my bubbler loaded up (50 mgs, like always.)

i took the first hit being extra careful with the lighter because my hands were quite fidgety. after blowing it out i noticed how much heavier the body high was because i was on amt. i take the second hit and i begin to get filled with joy and the weed in the bowl starts dancing around. i blow it out, and i instantly am transported to another place.

this place was made of solid gold, and i was seeing the room from an angle for some reason. it almost looked like a museum the way the floor reflected, and there were enormous pillars in this place too but because of the angle i could not see the ceiling. in the very middle of this room, there was a green platform, and a being standing on it that was made completely out of multicolored dna strands. it held its arms out to me and i in its grasp, was another being just like it. this being then morphed and twisted around until it also held its limbs out and showed me yet another being just like the previous. the main being was holding two fractals of itself while the smallest one was still transforming into something else.

shortly after i opened up my eyes and reflected on the trip, remembering what terence said.
im an artist and i thought of how that being basically recreated itself in a form to show me, and it clicked.

thats what art is, is basically using a medium to share yourself with people. you know, i obviously got my own message out of it and i dont think that was "the" message, but either way it opened my eyes to a new way of thinking.


Hope you enjoyed the read   ;D






Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 07 June 2013, 22:46:22
I don't know how Moon Unit is not on this list. His is the best DMT I've had off the road and his prices are amazing as well.

All the drama about linux? I'd like to see him back in the OP myself. The trip reports speak for themselves.
@wavelength -  Nice trip reports! +1 to you.
I second that GSE! Awesomeness Wavelength! That last piece about art, I love the lessons we are taught.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 07 June 2013, 22:54:45
40mgs loaded into my trusted machine and I am ready to blast off - have a great weekend you all. I wish I could promise a trip report but I am still learning on how to bring stuff back. I have a good feeling though one day I will :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 08 June 2013, 00:30:39
Yes please no more debates!!   You guys can both be right, in your own ways...lol    when i come here i want to hear of the beauty that this magical substance brings.  This is the place that i feel the most comfortable sharing my experiences and listening to others....Why?  Because i know that you guys here have more of an idea what the hell im talking about when i try to explain my experiences to others around me.  They just have not seen the beauty, and it is a shame  :(    But i am very greatful for this thread, and appreciate all of you guys!!!   Lets focus on what DMT is all about!!!   :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bobsredmill on 08 June 2013, 01:21:52
free contact  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 08 June 2013, 09:26:06
40mgs loaded into my trusted machine and I am ready to blast off - have a great weekend you all. I wish I could promise a trip report but I am still learning on how to bring stuff back. I have a good feeling though one day I will :)


Curiosity and hope  will always keep you alive and go after what you really want to know... or discover...

Keep the search alive and  good luck to you, mate!!!


Thank you GSE! It was a very good trip on MultiExciter's extra clean product.
Blast off and return I can gather, but the amazing middle of the trip is just like a slippery fish remains just under the surface almost within grasp ... almost!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 08 June 2013, 10:52:17
BlackIris, please, do look inside your heart and ask yourself if it important for you to feel that you have beat someone in the debate.

OMG. This thing is becoming a nightmare, seriously.

Listen, this is not the place to have philosophical debates and I understand it, but ffs what's wrong with debating? There's NOTHING wrong on having a discussion with someone, that's the only way you can grow and learn.

As for the importance of "winning a debate": no, it is not important for me, you (as everyone else here it seems) have completely misunderstood what I said. I just pointed out that when I talk about something I usually never lose a debate because I talk only when I know the topic perfectly, so it's very difficult that I will be proven wrong in it (in case you can be wrong and it's not a matter of opinion). I never said that I care to win a debate or that I want to win a debate, or that I enjoy winning a debate. Please don't put in my mouth things I never said, thanks. If I really wanted to be always right or care about "winning" I would do exactly the contrary (that's what the majority of people in fact do - even those that here much probably pointed me out for my supposed "arrogance"; you almost always see in the defects of others yours) and avoid debates as much as possible. When you don't like to be proven wrong - just in case - you know perfectly that the more exposure to what you say brings more scrutiny, and the more scrutiny the more the possibility that if there's a fault somewhere someone will notice it. If you say nothing you will be always right, no matter what.

Moreover for what it concerns my discussion with DMTNexus, he himself said that he didn't notice that I was talking about hitting the bottle at an angle. It was not that I was being a troll or pretending to be right at all costs, I was just pointing out a misunderstanding. Should I just have said: "oh yes, sure, you are right" even when it was not so to not start a discussion or because he is DMTNexus? It doesn't make any sense, seriously, no sense at all. It was just a polite discussion, nothing more, I have the greatest respect for DMTNexus and every other vendor in the SR. What's so wrong on having a polite debate on a point? What's so wrong on having a discussion with someone? If you think it is so wrong to have a discussion why are you even in a forum to begin with?

EDIT: I would like the guy that continues to bring me -karma from 3 days for this thing to speak his/her mind instead of playing the coward, thanks. Also in PM as to not put the thread off-topic. Is this what you like instead to do? Give -karma behind the safety of your convictions to not have a discussion? Good to know. I never gave bad karma to anyone. If I have a problem with something being said I just point what I think is wrong. I guess this is considered "bad" here. You always learn something new.

Oh, well...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 08 June 2013, 15:31:38
OMG. This thing is becoming a nightmare, seriously.

I can't agree more.

Bye-bye: Profile -> Summary -> Buddy/Ignore List -> Edit Ignore List -> type user name into the box -> Add

If you think I am wrong then please do the same with me ... I really do not mind.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 08 June 2013, 22:11:25
Whats up everyone!!!   Hey Incogmagnito,  Do you premeditate before your journeys?   I noticed that a little bit of premeditation was extremely helpful in bringing more of the experience back. 

Also, does anyone recommend any of the DMT that is available right now?  Because i am about to take my last heroic dose (Well heroic to me, that is)


 
Can we have less debate and more INTERGALACTIC reports kids? I LOVE to read your hyperspace journals!

i could leave a few little trip reports, obviously the memory gets shattered in that state but there is always something magical that i can pull out with me and its fun to share those things.

i think the most jarring blast off ive had *recently* was on bigblacks dmt.

i put 50 mgs in my bubbler and began to take long slow hits. after the i take in the first i take in my breath and hold it for about 10 seconds before i start hearing a loud ringing in my ears. i blow it out and upon looking at my room,i see that it looks as if its made out of big geometric rubber puzzle pieces. the entire room/floor was made of this material and it was all locked in/connected, but no longer the normal room i was in before. i took the second hit and the third immediately after to get it all in at once.
as soon as i blew out the third hit an atmosphere built itself around me. i had no choice but to go limp and accept what was about to happen.

i saw a huge purple wheel with white alien-like text written on different pannels of it roll up, and an entity came up and gave it a spin. as this was happening multiple entities were gathering in the backround and they started to poke fun at me, saying "oh we've got a tough guy over here" and from there i sort of blacked out while in this place.

at the very end of this blast off and being in this physical place, i remember feeling as though i was on a sort of zipline, but i was being directed somewhere by something. i eventually turned and was facing a wall with different windowpane-like objects, and this zipline threw me directly into one. as soon as i hit it, i felt as though i was thrown back into my body.

upon that happening i really thought about how they say that thats the realm where souls wait to reincarnate into other bodies. i truly felt like this could have some deep truth to it. i thought about how my body is my current incarnation so i obviously came back to it for that reason, but it seemed like those other windowpane-like things were other incarnations waiting for a soul.

that one definitely has me looking at the world in a very different way...

another good blast off i had not too long ago was on moonunits dmt, while peaking on amt.
i probably remember even less from this one, but i did get something valuable out of it so ill share that.

a day or two before this experience i had watched a terence mckenna video and he says "pay attention to what they are doing", so i went into the experience with that in mind.

i sat on my floor in a meditative position with my bubbler loaded up (50 mgs, like always.)

i took the first hit being extra careful with the lighter because my hands were quite fidgety. after blowing it out i noticed how much heavier the body high was because i was on amt. i take the second hit and i begin to get filled with joy and the weed in the bowl starts dancing around. i blow it out, and i instantly am transported to another place.

this place was made of solid gold, and i was seeing the room from an angle for some reason. it almost looked like a museum the way the floor reflected, and there were enormous pillars in this place too but because of the angle i could not see the ceiling. in the very middle of this room, there was a green platform, and a being standing on it that was made completely out of multicolored dna strands. it held its arms out to me and i in its grasp, was another being just like it. this being then morphed and twisted around until it also held its limbs out and showed me yet another being just like the previous. the main being was holding two fractals of itself while the smallest one was still transforming into something else.

shortly after i opened up my eyes and reflected on the trip, remembering what terence said.
im an artist and i thought of how that being basically recreated itself in a form to show me, and it clicked.

thats what art is, is basically using a medium to share yourself with people. you know, i obviously got my own message out of it and i dont think that was "the" message, but either way it opened my eyes to a new way of thinking.


Hope you enjoyed the read   ;D










And thanks to Wavelength for this awesome report!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 09 June 2013, 07:38:12
Whats up everyone!!!   Hey Incogmagnito,  Do you premeditate before your journeys?   I noticed that a little bit of premeditation was extremely helpful in bringing more of the experience back. 

Also, does anyone recommend any of the DMT that is available right now?  Because i am about to take my last heroic dose (Well heroic to me, that is)

And thanks to Wavelength for this awesome report!

Yes, I try to spend 2 to 3 minutes in meditation and controlling my breath - it does help, but the impact I have noticed so far is that I have not been to bad places rather than it allowed me to remember my trips. I am also trying to stay conscious thru the process of falling asleep, but this again is not an easy thing for me as I typically just switch off when I get to bed. I do know that travels in hyperspace are totally amazing - my last trip was totally amazing as well (emotions that I brought back were of awe and wonder with only the glimpse of the parting message - "go and enjoy it")

This is why I wholeheartedly agree that we need more trip reports - you are blessed if you can bring them back! Please share :)

On the products available now the ones that I have not heard a bad word on (but have not tried myself) I would mention DrShrooms and NewTime. Given what I have heard of them I would be surprised if something goes wrong or their product is not up to par. Make sure you go for the top shelf as both vendors sell yellow spice too.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 09 June 2013, 09:40:40
I can't agree more.

Bye-bye: Profile -> Summary -> Buddy/Ignore List -> Edit Ignore List -> type user name into the box -> Add

If you think I am wrong then please do the same with me ... I really do not mind.

It's not that you will read this, but maybe someone of your buddys will forward this to you.

I don't get what I did so wrong that you did have to put me into your "ignore list". Seriously guy, you have created a so big happening of this thing as to being almost unbelievable. It's YOU that did it, not me, do you understand this? Now you want to let pass that *I* did it instead?

I just had a discussion with DMTNexus about making holes in a pipe, nothing more. You jumped against me because (in your opinion) I wasn't worthy of replying to DMTNexus for whatever motive in your brain. After this you have basted all this thing about me wanting to win a debate at all costs, and prodding me at every turn with "+1" to everything others said against me of whatever nature. In the end you even said to others to ignore me and not debate with me as if I was someone to avoid (and for what? Because I had a philosophical debate with the TC, a debate that it seems he also enjoyed - albeit a little off-topic? A debate that was already ended - for mutual agreement - before you jumped in with your usual biting without motive?). Seriously believe me when I say that I have no idea of what I did of so wrong to deserve this.

I don't know what's your real motive in here, but seriously check inside yourself because I made anything to deserve the hate you have brought to me in this occurrence. We are here to have discussions and debates, this is a forum, do you understand it? If you really had something against what I said or the way I behaved you thought was not convenient for this thread you could reach to me directly in a PM and explain your motivations instead of playing the "provoke someone and hide away"  game and either pretending I should not defend myself from it (case in point when you pretended I should look for "the motive why I need to win a debate" and when I replied to you that I never implied nor said that I cared to win a debate you did put me in your ignore list; should I just had to ignore your falsity and let pass something that I never said and it's not true just because you wanted the final word?).

If you did all of this just because I said that I usually never lose a debate I wonder why this thing bothered you so much as it did. It is just a statement. You can think myself an arrogant for saying this but I was just saying the truth (either you believing it or not), and I have nothing to excuse myself of because I always speak directly and of what I really think. It wasn't an important thing anyway, but you made of it a paramount statement and discarded all the rest I've said (even explaining what I meant) after it. You neither seem to care now of the people I've helped before and I continue to help in this forum nor of the posts of myself here before all this thing happened; it seems like after this I'm not more the same person of before, and for what?

I would have sent you this in PM but obviously I cannot given that you are playing the child. And no, I don't think your are "wrong" (btw what putting you in the ignore list myself would accomplish? Is not that doing such will in some way challenge what you did, isn't it?) I just think you are making of this thing a farce, for whatever motive I don't fully know.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 09 June 2013, 11:01:21
Do you premeditate before your journeys? 

The act of "premeditation" is a complex one, especially with DMT. The fact is that, as all substances that plunge you directly inside the unconscious, if you try to control the experience directly you will only obstacle the process most of the times. Instead of a direct control it's much better to approach the control in an indirect way. This means using a proper ritual/setting/prayer/meditation *before* taking DMT in the "lite" approach, and for the "heavy" approach directing your conscious life in a certain way so that when you are in there you behave in the way you sort of "programmed" yourself with in your waking life (this is what shamans and magicians do, btw, since shamanism/sorcery and magic is not only based on the moment of the experience but reach also your "normal" everyday life). This last approach is the way to have a full control of what you do when you are inside the experience (the lite way makes you target a specific place to go, but it will do nothing on how you will behave during the time you are in that place)

Naturally at beginning the heavy approach is not needed, and in certain cases it is usually even better to watch where the DMT brings you at the very beginning to grow some experience in those states and landscapes. After a bit, however, I think it becomes almost a necessity to work with what you see and do in a way that you can bring with yourself practical results from what you've done. Then you can decide for yourself if the path you want to step in requires you to work fully with these states or not and act of consequence (if you just want to use DMT for the beauty of the experience you certainly don't need an heavy approach as in shamanism or sorcery).

Btw, if you are interested, you can find on how to use a somewhat complex "premeditation" in my trip report with DMT in the trip report contest in the discussion sub-forum. With an example it is much easier to point out how it is done practically. Naturally, as I said, this is a somewhat complex way of setting a premeditation, you don't need to go as far for the usual trip, but when you are more experienced it is a thing that can be good to know so that you can after plan your "travels" someway. If then you are interested in this thing I would start by trying to go to some so-called elemental planes.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 09 June 2013, 23:05:33
Do you premeditate before your journeys? 

The act of "premeditation" is a complex one, especially with DMT. The fact is that, as all substances that plunge you directly inside the unconscious, if you try to control the experience directly you will only obstacle the process most of the times. Instead of a direct control it's much better to approach the control in an indirect way. This means using a proper ritual/setting/prayer/meditation *before* taking DMT in the "lite" approach, and for the "heavy" approach directing your conscious life in a certain way so that when you are in there you behave in the way you sort of "programmed" yourself with in your waking life (this is what shamans and magicians do, btw, since shamanism/sorcery and magic is not only based on the moment of the experience but reach also your "normal" everyday life). This last approach is the way to have a full control of what you do when you are inside the experience (the lite way makes you target a specific place to go, but it will do nothing on how you will behave during the time you are in that place)

Naturally at beginning the heavy approach is not needed, and in certain cases it is usually even better to watch where the DMT brings you at the very beginning to grow some experience in those states and landscapes. After a bit, however, I think it becomes almost a necessity to work with what you see and do in a way that you can bring with yourself practical results from what you've done. Then you can decide for yourself if the path you want to step in requires you to work fully with these states or not and act of consequence (if you just want to use DMT for the beauty of the experience you certainly don't need an heavy approach as in shamanism or sorcery).

Btw, if you are interested, you can find on how to use a somewhat complex "premeditation" in my trip report with DMT in the trip report contest in the discussion sub-forum. With an example it is much easier to point out how it is done practically. Naturally, as I said, this is a somewhat complex way of setting a premeditation, you don't need to go as far for the usual trip, but when you are more experienced it is a thing that can be good to know so that you can after plan your "travels" someway. If then you are interested in this thing I would start by trying to go to some so-called elemental planes.


In other words, just meditate...LOL   ;)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: moksha on 09 June 2013, 23:09:48
Got a positive review for the Australian vendor 'Heinemen' that I'll post below, and I can also vouch for the validity of two other Australian vendors: Dimitry and RainbowSnail (mentioned in the OP).

Just wanted to start up a review thread for a great new local vendor, hopefully they'll stick around for a while. Post any reviews\comments you may have here, and try to keep it civil :)
SR profile: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/5339a754fb


Finally got around to trying a bit of Heinemen's DMT the other day, absolutely mind-blowing product I would strongly recommend. First off the vendor is great, very professional comms & packaging and you get a sense that they take pride in their work and the product they sell.

Now down to the good stuff, the dose itself. I haven't gone in too deep just yet but started out with about 20-30mg sandwiched between marijuana\tobacco in a bong. Roasting it incredibly slowly I could hear the DMT vaporizing\burning as the flame spread through the cone and, just like all DMT tasted absolutely rank. I couldn't get down the last bit of smoke that was left lingering in the chamber but I was already losing my vision and could do very little but lie back and enjoy the ride from that point.

I had Iggy Pops 'Mass Destruction' track playing the whole time, an excellent tune for psychedelics if you're not familiar. The visuals were apparent before I had put the bong down, but upon closing my eyes I was immediately immersed in a world of colourful flying objects, geometric patterns and strange abstract shapes\landscapes. The visual that stuck though was the image of a fox or wolf that seemed to be made completely of liquid, and as the song built the outlines of the animal became more and more vague until eventually it exploded into a sea of multi-coloured water splashing all over my vision and waves of euphoria started rolling over my body. The first I had really been aware of my physical body at all since lying down, I've become familiar with the euphoria DMT makes me feel but this was really a lot more significant that other batches I've tried. The trip slowly (more felt like it was slow) faded away after that and I don't recall anything too crazy happening after that point until opening my eyes 7-8 minutes after the initial ingestion when the song finished.

All in all a perfect experience, both with the substance itself and the vendor selling it. Thanks again Heinemen :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 10 June 2013, 06:49:24
Got a positive review for the Australian vendor 'Heinemen' that I'll post below, and I can also vouch for the validity of two other Australian vendors: Dimitry and RainbowSnail (mentioned in the OP).

Thank you, moksha - it is a rare treat to hear something of Oz vendors! +1
Could you please help me to understand why is there such a price premium for any product sold in Australia?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 10 June 2013, 07:39:59
In other words, just meditate...LOL   ;)

Yes, in the "lite" version is that. In the "full" meditating is not enough. The "meditation" must go on for much part of your day and for this to be possible you should do various processes. The first is building in yourself a framework (what is called in psychology the "subjective synthesis") on which to work and that adheres to your beliefs and secondarily you must LIVE that framework (and in this is the difficult part).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: moksha on 10 June 2013, 09:20:25
Got a positive review for the Australian vendor 'Heinemen' that I'll post below, and I can also vouch for the validity of two other Australian vendors: Dimitry and RainbowSnail (mentioned in the OP).

Thank you, moksha - it is a rare treat to hear something of Oz vendors! +1
Could you please help me to understand why is there such a price premium for any product sold in Australia?
Haha no problem, I can see how it seems quite perplexing from an outside perspective. The pricing comes mostly just from the logistics of smuggling into Australia, as we're quite isolated from main drug producing countries (or any countries for that matter) and only have a few main sorting facilities that have a relatively stringent customs policy. But it's more so that Australia is obsessed with keeping out foreign pests\diseases\plants because our environment is so isolated and vulnerable in that respect. Just the hype and propaganda of Australian customs is starting to play a bigger role now as well though as a lot more vendors seem to be taking to selective scamming, as much as it's discussed Australia really doesn't have as thorough mail screening methods as they lead on. If you read through AFP and customs reports it becomes blatantly obvious that their claims are theoretically impossible for their number of staff\sniffer dogs compared to the amount of mail that's coming in.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 10 June 2013, 23:18:23
Got a positive review for the Australian vendor 'Heinemen' that I'll post below, and I can also vouch for the validity of two other Australian vendors: Dimitry and RainbowSnail (mentioned in the OP).

Thank you, moksha - it is a rare treat to hear something of Oz vendors! +1
Could you please help me to understand why is there such a price premium for any product sold in Australia?
Haha no problem, I can see how it seems quite perplexing from an outside perspective. The pricing comes mostly just from the logistics of smuggling into Australia, as we're quite isolated from main drug producing countries (or any countries for that matter) and only have a few main sorting facilities that have a relatively stringent customs policy. But it's more so that Australia is obsessed with keeping out foreign pests\diseases\plants because our environment is so isolated and vulnerable in that respect. Just the hype and propaganda of Australian customs is starting to play a bigger role now as well though as a lot more vendors seem to be taking to selective scamming, as much as it's discussed Australia really doesn't have as thorough mail screening methods as they lead on. If you read through AFP and customs reports it becomes blatantly obvious that their claims are theoretically impossible for their number of staff\sniffer dogs compared to the amount of mail that's coming in.

Thank you - this makes sense for the imported stuff, but as far as my research showed me you guys were the first ones to make changa and you do have endemic plants as a source, no? But when I was just starting on SR I do remember seeing both dmt and changa at something like double to US or Europe. Must be expensive labour :-)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 10 June 2013, 23:52:14
I happen to come across some info that I thought is worth while sharing here.

It is related to confusion around boiling point of DMT. Or in other words temperature at which DMT vapourises.

Merck would appear to have confused everyone with their reported values of 60 to 80C.

Shulgin doubted that it was correct simply based on the molecule structure, but he did not provide a definitive number either. Below is the post I was able to find that suggests that it is around 160 - 180C.

Source: *clearnet warning* - http://www.psychonaut.com/ayahuasca-dmt/40697-dmt-crystals-volcano-vaponizer.html#post647471

"Volcano +DMT test completed successfully

i used Temperature range 180-190 °C (my logic saying me if we above boiling point 160°C , the exact temperature doesn't matter until we stay below burning point )

I used separate balloon for DMT and the only part of Vaponizer that kept smell after use (btw smell not strong at all) is 'Filing chamber', but i cleaned it with vodka and smell disappeared straight away.


Practical observation: filing of Volcano balloon takes 30 seconds, where DMT vaporized approx in 10-15 Sec (*within temp range i used 180-190 °C ). Meaning , there is no need to wait until balloon is full, as half of it will be just hot air. Balloon contains 4 hits, where you can only take 2 hits of DMT (with correct dosage , etc , you just don't have time for 3rd hit as after 2nd one you already in another space (lets called the Unknown -) for now). Taking above said into account, if you use it alone fill only half balloon (otherwise your dosage will be half and other half will be lost ), if you share it with friend (which i did) fill balloon fully. Bear in mind the dosage and idea: doesn't matter how many crystals you put inside filling chamber, all will be inside a balloon within 15 sec. "
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: quken on 11 June 2013, 08:38:12
incogmagnito: Have you tried the volcano yourself? They are kind of pricey... but I hear only good of it. What I wonder is how long can you keep the vapors in the bag after vaporizing it? I mean until the DMT recrystallizes on the walls of the bag. Or wouldn't that happen at all?


And a question to all of you "Machine" users out there, how large do you make your holes underneath the bottle? Do you prefer a smaller or larger hole? Because mine is only 5mmx10mm in a oval shape. Do you think it's to small? Or should I make it bigger.

http://imgur.com/OYsDQbv

http://imgur.com/W2sSFf0



Thanks everyone for your engagement into this thread. I fucking love it!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 11 June 2013, 12:40:13
incogmagnito: Have you tried the volcano yourself? They are kind of pricey... but I hear only good of it. What I wonder is how long can you keep the vapors in the bag after vaporizing it? I mean until the DMT recrystallizes on the walls of the bag. Or wouldn't that happen at all?


And a question to all of you "Machine" users out there, how large do you make your holes underneath the bottle? Do you prefer a smaller or larger hole? Because mine is only 5mmx10mm in a oval shape. Do you think it's to small? Or should I make it bigger.

http://imgur.com/OYsDQbv

http://imgur.com/W2sSFf0



Thanks everyone for your engagement into this thread. I fucking love it!

Quken, thank you! No, I have not used volcano and most likely never will as I do not smoke a lot of weed at all, so hardly justifies the investment - I would rather buy 3 to 4 extra grams of DMT for this money, especially since machine works perfectly for me.

On the hole size I would recommend to make it a bit bigger, but if you can breakthrough on it as is then why worry?
Bigger hole will allow you to inhale with less intensity, which might be a good thing on the second or third toke :-)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Pacman85 on 11 June 2013, 13:57:32
I've tested "Uhrwerks" DMT and it was mindblastin good. A shame he isn't listed here.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Minchia on 11 June 2013, 13:57:54
What I wonder is how long can you keep the vapors in the bag after vaporizing it? I mean until the DMT recrystallizes on the walls of the bag. Or wouldn't that happen at all?

from what i have read it recrystallizes on glass but not on plastic.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 11 June 2013, 23:57:15
Long overdue review of chemdog's DMT.

I have to start with apology - it took me some time to get to the sample, but if I when I was getting to it I felt like I was doing it out of my duty to keep a promise then when I tried it I realised that duty has nothing to do with that - it is simply one of the best spices I had ever had pleasure of smoking!!!

Stealth was good - I would even say might be a bit overdone for a quantity, but better safe than sorry!

Comms - superb

Speed - lightning

Product - here I will go a bit wordy. Have you ever had a chance to scrape very fine frozen fog off your car windshield, where parts landing on your sleeves are like tiny little snow flakes almost fluffy in texture and almost perfectly white. This is it!

It melted on my machine with the lighter being half an inch away, so I decided that it was clearly dmt. I took one light hit of about 20mg and it was amazing - no breakthrough but visuals were superb and duration of effects was longer than usual.

They do not have it listed now, but here is the link to their profile for your reference.

If GGA is back I would really hope that this vendor can make it to the OP as the product is nothing short of superb!!!

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/32842c5427
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 12 June 2013, 05:17:22
Hey guys, i just want to inform everyone that i can that Duck Commander is scamming, as he just robbed me WU to BTC for quite a bit of money....we cannot allow people with ratings of 100 to be robbing people!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: quken on 12 June 2013, 09:17:39
Incog: Really good to hear. I have gotten myself a sample myself from chemdog, and I agree on the stealth it really is overkill for that tiny amount. But I really got interested in bying myself some of those vials it came in. Those can be good if you wanna sell just one hit to someone. I just wonder where you get them.

And maybe this weekend I will finally write some reviews on the DMT variants I have at the moment. I have changa from asylum which I have only smoked once and did a 135mg on a ordinary glasspipe. But used the same method as the machine to apply the heat. Using my storm lighter to gently touch it once to get it glowing and then just applying heat from 4-5cm away. This was weird as my CEV were in black and white or greyscale.

Also have some from DRshrooms, the mixed white and yellow, which I smoked in my machine. From it I got huge body load, started to freeze and quiver. ( I hope it's the right word for the trembling and shaking once you're really cold... )

And the sample from chemdog, which looks to be more than 50 or 60mg as advertised, but I haven't opened it yet so it may be correct. Anyway, I will modify my machine a bit until weekend and I will let you all know.

Peace and love and much more...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: chemdog on 12 June 2013, 20:30:56
And the sample from chemdog, which looks to be more than 50 or 60mg as advertised, but I haven't opened it yet so it may be correct. Anyway, I will modify my machine a bit until weekend and I will let you all know.


and

Long overdue review of chemdog's DMT.


You guys are awesome. Thank you both for flying. :)

Two lots of DMT will be going on sale over the next couple of days all things being equal.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 13 June 2013, 00:24:22
Just wanna clear some things up about the volcano, if you just fill it up and leave it, it will definitely settle on the sides of the bag rendering the trip inert.

As for the time you have before it does that, is like anywhere from 5-10min determined by factors of how much DMT you put in, if you mixed it with weed, and how hot you vaped it at.

So in conclusion, there isn't a HUGE rush to to power down the vape, but lollygaggers are never appreciated =P

I am gonna try just filling half the bag after reading that post by incognito, because i had always assumed the DMT was vaped in a couple seconds, but never wanted to risk wasting any so i let the bag fill completely.

Its funny too though, because nobody could ever finish the entire bag.  Unless you where going for the gusto.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 13 June 2013, 16:23:00
Temp 8 and after filling a bag I still have vapes coming out....so im not that sure about the first 15 second....on the Volcano
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: chemdog on 13 June 2013, 19:08:37
Our DMT is up. 200mg each, P+P included. No FE.  :)

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/ee0388263f

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/b31e8e6907

Sticking to EU only on this batch at the moment.

Will increase available quantities and breaks on next run.

Much love to all the travelers, journeypeople and seekers. <3
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 13 June 2013, 22:24:02
40mgs loaded into my trusted machine and I am ready to blast off - have a great weekend you all. I wish I could promise a trip report but I am still learning on how to bring stuff back. I have a good feeling though one day I will :)


Curiosity and hope  will always keep you alive and go after what you really want to know... or discover...

Keep the search alive and  good luck to you, mate!!!


Thank you GSE! It was a very good trip on MultiExciter's extra clean product.
Blast off and return I can gather, but the amazing middle of the trip is just like a slippery fish remains just under the surface almost within grasp ... almost!

I always get pre flight anxiety meditation definitely is necessary to combat it. Every time!! I always have this preflight debate with myself. Post flight if I write it all down (actually I type it into an encrypted diary) when the experience a super fresh then I tend to remember a lot more. Its really fun to go back and read them later because even though I have written these things down the memory still slips just like a lucid dream. I don't mean to sound ignorant so please don't blast me but could someone PM me the link to the trip report contest subforum? love and light to you all, brothers and sisters.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 13 June 2013, 23:42:04

I always get pre flight anxiety meditation definitely is necessary to combat it. Every time!! I always have this preflight debate with myself. Post flight if I write it all down (actually I type it into an encrypted diary) when the experience a super fresh then I tend to remember a lot more. Its really fun to go back and read them later because even though I have written these things down the memory still slips just like a lucid dream. I don't mean to sound ignorant so please don't blast me but could someone PM me the link to the trip report contest subforum? love and light to you all, brothers and sisters.

You are lucky!

I do not have this link handy, but I am sure that you can locate it by searching for animusvox and the  looking at the list of his posts around June 1
Best of luck!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: openym421 on 13 June 2013, 23:56:21
Wow Chemdog...that looks beautiful....let me know when you start doing the US
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: atlas on 14 June 2013, 09:47:09
40mgs loaded into my trusted machine and I am ready to blast off - have a great weekend you all. I wish I could promise a trip report but I am still learning on how to bring stuff back. I have a good feeling though one day I will :)


Curiosity and hope  will always keep you alive and go after what you really want to know... or discover...

Keep the search alive and  good luck to you, mate!!!


Thank you GSE! It was a very good trip on MultiExciter's extra clean product.
Blast off and return I can gather, but the amazing middle of the trip is just like a slippery fish remains just under the surface almost within grasp ... almost!

I always get pre flight anxiety meditation definitely is necessary to combat it. Every time!! I always have this preflight debate with myself. Post flight if I write it all down (actually I type it into an encrypted diary) when the experience a super fresh then I tend to remember a lot more. Its really fun to go back and read them later because even though I have written these things down the memory still slips just like a lucid dream. I don't mean to sound ignorant so please don't blast me but could someone PM me the link to the trip report contest subforum? love and light to you all, brothers and sisters.

Here it is:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=163138.0

Happy tripping everyone  :D

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 14 June 2013, 16:45:40
Thx Atlas. +1 4u
 8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 14 June 2013, 17:21:13
I always get pre flight anxiety meditation definitely is necessary to combat it. Every time!!

Don't worry, it is perfectly normal. It will take a lot of time till you will not have that anxiety anymore. Actually the fact that you are having it it's a good sign that your "trips" are eventful. Even Gracie & Zarkov themselves said that they were always anxious before smoking or injecting DMT.

As I said in other posts fear (the real one) is coming from the body, not from the mind. Your ego simply doesn't want to let the unconscious take the lead for a while and express this concern to you with anxiety/fear (this happens in the same way, for example - and even stronger there - during sleep paralysis just before the separation from the physical body; in esoteric terms this state it is called "the dweller of the threshold", because it manifests many times as an external entity).

There's no point on fighting the fear, actually doing so will just make it worse. Simply acknowledge it and understand why it's there and continue functioning inside it. If you continue to do this it will come a time that your ego will understand that there's nothing to worry about and that trying to get your attention as a child will change nothing. If you combat the fear it will never go away, it will represent every time anew.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 14 June 2013, 17:29:59
Our DMT is up. 200mg each, P+P included. No FE.  :)

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/ee0388263f

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/b31e8e6907

Sticking to EU only on this batch at the moment.

Will increase available quantities and breaks on next run.

Much love to all the travelers, journeypeople and seekers. <3

Thanks ChemDog. I will surely take a look at your offers.
I'm actually collecting the more information I can about all EU DMT vendors to then write a full and as much detailed as I can review of what I think about their DMT (comparisons, differences, purity, type of experiences etc.) and then post it here.
When I will have tried all the EU vendors of DMT I will publish my personal report of everyone of them and their products here.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 16 June 2013, 04:21:06
Hey,

I'm a new DMT vendor over here at SR,  but I feel I can, and will, be a valuable asset to the people here.  I stand by my product 100%, and I know it can hold it's own with the best of em,  maybe even surpass them.  So to prove this I am coming straight to the heart of my beloved Deemster community to offer 3 free 100mg samples in exchange for reviews.  All I ask is that you have strong forum presence.  The first three replies get em.  I will send them out Monday.  Sorry but domestic only for now.  I know that when people try my DMT, the word will be out that I'm very serious about what I do..  I would also like to add that my prices can't be beat.  The outrageous prices people charge for this magical drug needs to end.  SR is a revolutionary sight right?  Well I'm starting my very own mini Deemster revolution.  Who's with me?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 16 June 2013, 04:25:11
Ringo that sounds awesome!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 16 June 2013, 04:26:55
Hey,

I'm a new DMT vendor over here at SR,  but I feel I can, and will, be a valuable asset to the people here.  I stand by my product 100%, and I know it can hold it's own with the best of em,  maybe even surpass them.  So to prove this I am coming straight to the heart of my beloved Deemster community to offer 3 free 100mg samples in exchange for reviews.  All I ask is that you have strong forum presence.  The first three replies get em.  I will send them out Monday.  Sorry but domestic only for now.  I know that when people try my DMT, the word will be out that I'm very serious about what I do..  I would also like to add that my prices can't be beat.  The outrageous prices people charge for this magical drug needs to end.  SR is a revolutionary sight right?  Well I'm starting my very own mini Deemster revolution.  Who's with me?

Ringo, this sounds good ... but, what is "domestic" for you?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 16 June 2013, 04:40:24
Sorry the U.S.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 16 June 2013, 04:42:24
I plan on expanding to a few other countries.  I just don't feel I have enough experience to do so right now.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 16 June 2013, 04:56:18
Hey,

I'm a new DMT vendor over here at SR,  but I feel I can, and will, be a valuable asset to the people here.  I stand by my product 100%, and I know it can hold it's own with the best of em,  maybe even surpass them.  So to prove this I am coming straight to the heart of my beloved Deemster community to offer 3 free 100mg samples in exchange for reviews.  All I ask is that you have strong forum presence.  The first three replies get em.  I will send them out Monday.  Sorry but domestic only for now.  I know that when people try my DMT, the word will be out that I'm very serious about what I do..  I would also like to add that my prices can't be beat.  The outrageous prices people charge for this magical drug needs to end.  SR is a revolutionary sight right?  Well I'm starting my very own mini Deemster revolution.  Who's with me?

Sounds very promising. We are all here to help in your revolution in spreading the magic molecule. Wish you best of luck.

To find the folks who would write reviews for your sample I would suggest you to browse through this thread and see who would qualify. There are some good genuine kindhearted folks here who have dedicated their lives for the community and I am pretty sure you would be able to identify them :)

Welcome to the Road.

GSE

Ok,  thank you for your help, and for the welcome.  I will search right now.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: darxter on 16 June 2013, 09:41:02
hello Deemsters  ;)

wanted to share this, i ordered some changa from Asylum, i never tried DMT before, this is very rare thing to get where i live,
i decided to go with changa since i'm a heavy weed smoker and usual to smoke with a bong.

package has arrived very quick and in brilliant stealth, Asylum was very nice and answered a few questions i had,
so i tried it for the first time few days ago, loaded 0.1g of changa into my bong, i had no problem with smoking it, taste was ok,
i took 1 big slowly hit and kept all the smoke inside for a few seconds, then i closed my eyes, and a few seconds after breathing i was in another place..
another dimension, i was kicked straight up to space and i could see this beautiful things around me...
i was like WOW...my room did not look like my room anymore. definitely the best visuals i've ever seen.

its very hard to describe this experience that i've had, and what i've seen, but its definitely one of the best trips i ever had in my whole life,
i don't know if i managed to 'breakthrough' since it was my first experience with DMT, but i definitely felt like i was in
another dimension, it totally looked like i was in some magical place in space with all this beautiful colours and patterns, and everything is moving and swirling around
me, i felt my brain splitted to few parts and i could see myself from out of my body.  :o

i was tripping intensive for like 10-15 mins and started to come back slowly and nicely after.
fuck i love this stuff! i feel like a different person after seeing all that stuff. 

just wanted to share this with you guys, and special thanks for Asylum for his awesome product!

peace & love.  8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 16 June 2013, 17:25:31
@ darxter, hahah congrats on your first hyperspace steps!


I remember my first time... its like finding out that magic really does exist!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 16 June 2013, 17:56:07
@darxter, welcome to being a "deemster" :-)
+1
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: darxter on 16 June 2013, 18:07:28
thanks brother!
i'm really happy to be a part of this community,
i just love SR! 8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Serenity on 16 June 2013, 19:02:00
Hey,

I'm a new DMT vendor over here at SR,  but I feel I can, and will, be a valuable asset to the people here.  I stand by my product 100%, and I know it can hold it's own with the best of em,  maybe even surpass them.  So to prove this I am coming straight to the heart of my beloved Deemster community to offer 3 free 100mg samples in exchange for reviews.  All I ask is that you have strong forum presence.  The first three replies get em.  I will send them out Monday.  Sorry but domestic only for now.  I know that when people try my DMT, the word will be out that I'm very serious about what I do..  I would also like to add that my prices can't be beat.  The outrageous prices people charge for this magical drug needs to end.  SR is a revolutionary sight right?  Well I'm starting my very own mini Deemster revolution.  Who's with me?

Hi Ringo, I'm domestic and have a lot of experience with freebase DMT. I'll send a pm on SR because I'd love to review your product.

I agree that the price of DMT is ridiculous. It seems to me that the vendors on SR are just using the ban on MHRB as an excuse to raise prices arbitrarily - I highly doubt that the MHRB has quadrupled in value (Grams of dmt used to be <$40 on SR)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 16 June 2013, 19:29:32
Hey,

I'm a new DMT vendor over here at SR,  but I feel I can, and will, be a valuable asset to the people here.  I stand by my product 100%, and I know it can hold it's own with the best of em,  maybe even surpass them.  So to prove this I am coming straight to the heart of my beloved Deemster community to offer 3 free 100mg samples in exchange for reviews.  All I ask is that you have strong forum presence.  The first three replies get em.  I will send them out Monday.  Sorry but domestic only for now.  I know that when people try my DMT, the word will be out that I'm very serious about what I do..  I would also like to add that my prices can't be beat.  The outrageous prices people charge for this magical drug needs to end.  SR is a revolutionary sight right?  Well I'm starting my very own mini Deemster revolution.  Who's with me?

Hi Ringo, I'm domestic and have a lot of experience with freebase DMT. I'll send a pm on SR because I'd love to review your product.

I agree that the price of DMT is ridiculous. It seems to me that the vendors on SR are just using the ban on MHRB as an excuse to raise prices arbitrarily - I highly doubt that the MHRB has quadrupled in value (Grams of dmt used to be <$40 on SR)

Check your inbox  ;)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 16 June 2013, 19:55:47
So i forgot to share my Festival experience a couple weeks ago!  I'm sure i anonymously saw a few of you there =P  anyways, i had taken a long break from serious psychedelics, but something about this festival re-opened Pandora's box!

It was the first night and i knew the weather forecast called for rain the next 2 days, so i decided i would man up and drop 200mg of luckyluccianos MDMA, and pop in 2 LSD tabs (Jersey Cows Stars) the first night because the next 2 days would be a bust.

This was actually my first time candy flipping.  Needless to say, i was fucking PWNED!  The lights, the music, the love was flowing and i had an amazing time.  But that is not the story i wish to share.

So at about 2-3 am i decided it was time to get some zzz so i popped 5mg of Xanax in and hit the tent.

Well... IDK what woke me up but like 3 hours later i awoke with obviously a very relaxed and calm presence due to the Xanax that was flowing in me.

I am not sure why, but i just HAD to smoke DMT... i wanted to, i wasn't anxious, and i was fully ready to accept whatever happened.

So i rolled up a fatty joint, and placed about 100mg in the center after making a little space in between the weed.

Right as i am ready to get this show on the road, i realize i have no lighter.  Just as i was about to give up, some random dude starts trampling through my camp site.  He sees me and says whats up duuuuuuude... in the most hippy way possible.

I invite him to sit down as he looks fucking lost as hell.  First thing he asks me is, " bro, do you wanna go on an adventure?"  and it doesn't take me long to realize this guy is tripping harder than Timothy Leary.

I thank him for his offer and tell him i am just coming down from candy flipping, and have no intentions on tripping for another 6 hours.  However i do reveal to him that i am holding about 2 grams of DMT and am trying to blast off, but can't due to no ignition!

Well, soon as i tell him this, his eyes light up and he says "i would love too try it but i have to find my G/F I'll be back, but in the meantime..."  he then says something along the lines of "Good hippie catch" and he proceeds to hand me his lighter, and says i can keep it.

Astounded by his generosity, i thank him and wish him a safe journey after we smoke a bowl.  I never did meet up with him, but he definitely reminded me of a hippy guardian angel.  As he just appeared when i needed a hippy the most!

Well now it is just me, a dark and glow lit campsite, beautiful stars, moonlit forest trees looming over me, and a FATTY rolled with some ROGERPETE dmt in the center of that candy goodness.

We all know whats about to happen so here we go, i sit down in my sweat pants and hoody all comfy like, right under the trees.

I gently spark the joint, slowly ripping it trying to avoid too much heat as i smoke it.

Bam, suddenly i can taste the DMT.  I start to extend my rips and hold them for a bit longer.

After that first rip i start to feel light, and slightly giddy.  I start to remember where i am going and a feeling of relief sweeps over me.

Now with pure intentions and a will of longing to break through, i start on my second rip, third, fourth, now my world is SHAKING i can barely maintain the joint in my hand, so i lean over and drop it.

I fell back into the chair and closed my eyes.

BOOOM!  As soon as my eyes closed and i strapped in for the experience, my entire world went bright white/green.  I could see EVERYTHING, in my mind that is=P.  This was weird because it was pitch black outside.

Sure enough my goddess comes and she emanates this warm love feeling toward me, i feel so safe, and so sad because i haven't seen her in so long and she completely forgave that and was just happy to see me.

I know that last experience sounds weird, but i ALWAYS get entities for some reason.  Anyways, i am not exactly how it transitioned, but i was now looking at a giant DNA helix, yet the structure wasn't colored lines, but of programming code.

It expanded and contracted, every which way, and i remember thinking/being told that this was the code of life and it was the most important thing ever.

As sat there and marveled at it beauty, i slowly drifted back to my body, and when i realized who i am, i just started laughing and saying oh my god over and over again.

I could not have asked for a better way to rejoin hyperspace.  In fact when i came back from that experience i scooped up that joint and finished it, blasting me off again a 2nd time.  The next 2 nights right before i went to sleep i smoked DMT again. 

I do admit i was kinda tipsy for those ones, so i didn't take much back.  But i remeber them being JUST as awesome and i am glad to have been blessed with such an amazing experience.

Safe journey my Roadies!


Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 17 June 2013, 10:10:02

I agree that the price of DMT is ridiculous. It seems to me that the vendors on SR are just using the ban on MHRB as an excuse to raise prices arbitrarily - I highly doubt that the MHRB has quadrupled in value (Grams of dmt used to be <$40 on SR)
second that
Quote
(Grams of dmt used to be <$40 on SR)
wow thats quite cheap! lowest price for a gram of dmt that i saw last year was around 60$.
So i forgot to share my Festival experience a couple weeks ago!  I'm sure i anonymously saw a few of you there =P  anyways, i had taken a long break from serious psychedelics, but something about this festival re-opened Pandora's box!
.........................................

sounds like you had a  great time. can`t give you +1 but anyway thanks. :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 17 June 2013, 15:12:18
Yes, I agree, prices are a little too high right now.

I understand that for a pure product you need a lot of patience and work and many of the top vendors can also have a job and a lot of requests, but seriously the average price is about 130$/g that's a little too much all things considered.

DMT is a substance that, like LSD, should not be sold just for money (I am not saying that you should not make money by it, it's perfectly fine if you do, but certain substances have greater principles behind them than others and this must be taken in consideration) but also for the enhancement of humanity as a whole, and I personally think that vendors should consider also this (and not only profit margins) and not turn DMT in a substance that only rich people can buy - as coke can be - because if you do IMO you are missing the point of what you are selling.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Gridlock on 17 June 2013, 16:41:22
40 a gram? wow.. I just paid 47 (54 after shipping) for 250mg!.  :-\      (The vendor was great, and the transaction was perfect)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Serenity on 17 June 2013, 17:55:18
Hell, a year ago you could buy everything you needed for STB extraction and a qp of ground MHRB off amazon for < $130.



Shocking I say!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dellboy on 17 June 2013, 18:05:18
To me, this is the most exciting thread on SR.

I have 200mg of a mix of yellow and white DMT coming from DRshrooms (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/6548abc4cc) and I'll be off to buy a couple of Henesy minatures to make The Machine.

Any advise specific to this mix I should be aware of? I was hoping to take 25mg as a preview, then 50mg a day or two after. And I'll be shaking with adrenaline as I do it! :-)

Exciting times ahead!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 17 June 2013, 22:33:55
I've tested "Uhrwerks" DMT and it was mindblastin good. A shame he isn't listed here.

I am trying to catch up on the OP, and would add this vendor if I could figure out whom you're talking about.  An SR search turned up nobody by that name.  Can you find the vendor page?  Thanx.

I *THINK* I am caught up with the rest of the reviews ... if I missed yours, please shoot me a pm.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dellboy on 17 June 2013, 22:50:32
I've tested "Uhrwerks" DMT and it was mindblastin good. A shame he isn't listed here.
I am trying to catch up on the OP, and would add this vendor if I could figure out whom you're talking about.  An SR search turned up nobody by that name.  Can you find the vendor page?

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/2a1fca953b
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 17 June 2013, 22:58:50
I've tested "Uhrwerks" DMT and it was mindblastin good. A shame he isn't listed here.
I am trying to catch up on the OP, and would add this vendor if I could figure out whom you're talking about.  An SR search turned up nobody by that name.  Can you find the vendor page?

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/2a1fca953b

Ha!  I should have thought of dropping the 's'.  :P  Got it now. Thanx.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 18 June 2013, 20:46:21
So i forgot to share my Festival experience a couple weeks ago!  I'm sure i anonymously saw a few of you there =P  anyways, i had taken a long break from serious psychedelics, but something about this festival re-opened Pandora's box!

It was the first night and i knew the weather forecast called for rain the next 2 days, so i decided i would man up and drop 200mg of luckyluccianos MDMA, and pop in 2 LSD tabs (Jersey Cows Stars) the first night because the next 2 days would be a bust.

This was actually my first time candy flipping.  Needless to say, i was fucking PWNED!  The lights, the music, the love was flowing and i had an amazing time.  But that is not the story i wish to share.

So at about 2-3 am i decided it was time to get some zzz so i popped 5mg of Xanax in and hit the tent.

Well... IDK what woke me up but like 3 hours later i awoke with obviously a very relaxed and calm presence due to the Xanax that was flowing in me.

I am not sure why, but i just HAD to smoke DMT... i wanted to, i wasn't anxious, and i was fully ready to accept whatever happened.

So i rolled up a fatty joint, and placed about 100mg in the center after making a little space in between the weed.

Right as i am ready to get this show on the road, i realize i have no lighter.  Just as i was about to give up, some random dude starts trampling through my camp site.  He sees me and says whats up duuuuuuude... in the most hippy way possible.

I invite him to sit down as he looks fucking lost as hell.  First thing he asks me is, " bro, do you wanna go on an adventure?"  and it doesn't take me long to realize this guy is tripping harder than Timothy Leary.

I thank him for his offer and tell him i am just coming down from candy flipping, and have no intentions on tripping for another 6 hours.  However i do reveal to him that i am holding about 2 grams of DMT and am trying to blast off, but can't due to no ignition!

Well, soon as i tell him this, his eyes light up and he says "i would love too try it but i have to find my G/F I'll be back, but in the meantime..."  he then says something along the lines of "Good hippie catch" and he proceeds to hand me his lighter, and says i can keep it.

Astounded by his generosity, i thank him and wish him a safe journey after we smoke a bowl.  I never did meet up with him, but he definitely reminded me of a hippy guardian angel.  As he just appeared when i needed a hippy the most!

Well now it is just me, a dark and glow lit campsite, beautiful stars, moonlit forest trees looming over me, and a FATTY rolled with some ROGERPETE dmt in the center of that candy goodness.

We all know whats about to happen so here we go, i sit down in my sweat pants and hoody all comfy like, right under the trees.

I gently spark the joint, slowly ripping it trying to avoid too much heat as i smoke it.

Bam, suddenly i can taste the DMT.  I start to extend my rips and hold them for a bit longer.

After that first rip i start to feel light, and slightly giddy.  I start to remember where i am going and a feeling of relief sweeps over me.

Now with pure intentions and a will of longing to break through, i start on my second rip, third, fourth, now my world is SHAKING i can barely maintain the joint in my hand, so i lean over and drop it.

I fell back into the chair and closed my eyes.

BOOOM!  As soon as my eyes closed and i strapped in for the experience, my entire world went bright white/green.  I could see EVERYTHING, in my mind that is=P.  This was weird because it was pitch black outside.

Sure enough my goddess comes and she emanates this warm love feeling toward me, i feel so safe, and so sad because i haven't seen her in so long and she completely forgave that and was just happy to see me.

I know that last experience sounds weird, but i ALWAYS get entities for some reason.  Anyways, i am not exactly how it transitioned, but i was now looking at a giant DNA helix, yet the structure wasn't colored lines, but of programming code.

It expanded and contracted, every which way, and i remember thinking/being told that this was the code of life and it was the most important thing ever.

As sat there and marveled at it beauty, i slowly drifted back to my body, and when i realized who i am, i just started laughing and saying oh my god over and over again.

I could not have asked for a better way to rejoin hyperspace.  In fact when i came back from that experience i scooped up that joint and finished it, blasting me off again a 2nd time.  The next 2 nights right before i went to sleep i smoked DMT again. 

I do admit i was kinda tipsy for those ones, so i didn't take much back.  But i remeber them being JUST as awesome and i am glad to have been blessed with such an amazing experience.

Safe journey my Roadies!
Thats what I'm talking bout bro!!! Love a good trip report!!! Plus 1 for edawg!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 18 June 2013, 20:54:32
On the prices just trom doing one extract I know the work involved and money being just a form of energy exchange it seems fair to ask a decent per hr rate for qualify if you put loving vib E s in your alchemy.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 19 June 2013, 02:00:22
@ princeblack49, TY!!  +1 for being an awesome person =P
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Flyhigh on 19 June 2013, 03:56:55

Right as i am ready to get this show on the road, i realize i have no lighter.  Just as i was about to give up, some random dude starts trampling through my camp site.  He sees me and says whats up duuuuuuude... in the most hippy way possible.

I invite him to sit down as he looks fucking lost as hell.  First thing he asks me is, " bro, do you wanna go on an adventure?"  and it doesn't take me long to realize this guy is tripping harder than Timothy Leary.

I thank him for his offer and tell him i am just coming down from candy flipping, and have no intentions on tripping for another 6 hours.  However i do reveal to him that i am holding about 2 grams of DMT and am trying to blast off, but can't due to no ignition!

Well, soon as i tell him this, his eyes light up and he says "i would love too try it but i have to find my G/F I'll be back, but in the meantime..."  he then says something along the lines of "Good hippie catch" and he proceeds to hand me his lighter, and says i can keep it.

Astounded by his generosity, i thank him and wish him a safe journey after we smoke a bowl.  I never did meet up with him, but he definitely reminded me of a hippy guardian angel.  As he just appeared when i needed a hippy the most!


I loved that story,  I love it when an stoner angel comes to your rescue, with a joint, a light, or a tab...I was at a concert many years ago..and i was working as a stage hand....anyway it was long day and me and my friend was smoking grass all day between sets....after the concert there was going to be some fire works....anyway my friend and i was hanging in the parking lot, the bands were jamming and we were saying we wish we had some acid for latter....like ten minute later some dude comes by and says he would trade some shrooms for weed....we were like ...HELL ya...we made a wish and the stoner angel came ..i guess someone needed weed...we got about an 1/8 each and had a fucking great time the rest of the night ..i will never forget that feeling when the fire works kick off and we were tripping balls...amazing  ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 19 June 2013, 05:16:52
Yes, I agree, prices are a little too high right now.

I understand that for a pure product you need a lot of patience and work and many of the top vendors can also have a job and a lot of requests, but seriously the average price is about 130$/g that's a little too much all things considered.

DMT is a substance that, like LSD, should not be sold just for money (I am not saying that you should not make money by it, it's perfectly fine if you do, but certain substances have greater principles behind them than others and this must be taken in consideration) but also for the enhancement of humanity as a whole, and I personally think that vendors should consider also this (and not only profit margins) and not turn DMT in a substance that only rich people can buy - as coke can be - because if you do IMO you are missing the point of what you are selling.

My sentiments exactly.  Thank you for explaining it so eloquently.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 19 June 2013, 09:53:59
On the prices just trom doing one extract I know the work involved and money being just a form of energy exchange it seems fair to ask a decent per hr rate for qualify if you put loving vib E s in your alchemy.

I know myself the work involved because I extracted it using STB many times, but let's do a little of math.

Considering you are in the EU a *KILO*of MHRB costs about 100 Euro. Do you know how many grams of N-N-DMT you will make from a good kilo of MHRB via STB?

Do you think it is fair to sell *1 gram* for more than it costs *1 KILO* of MHRB? I understand that you put art and energy (as you say) in the process and this must be paid, plus naturally some (even large) profit margin that is perfectly good and fine, but c'mon, seriously, DMT is NOT a substance as coke, it is a substance - as I said previously - that should be sold even for the benefit of humanity as a whole, so being greedy about it serves nothing (especially to the vendor him/herself).

I don't have the time to personally extract it and vend it here (hell, I don't have time either to extract it myself now, so I buy it instead), but if I could you would be assured that I would not ask more than 50 euro from a gram, no matter what, because elsewhere I would consider myself a greedy man not working for the enhancement of humanity but only and exclusively for my personal gain, and that would not be acceptable for me in this case, given what I would be selling.

But naturally to everyone his/her own: this is a free market and everybody has the right to ask how much s/he thinks the product deserves also in comparison to the global market prices, but I think this is a discussion that's important to make so that maybe vendors will start thinking about it a little more and the thing could - maybe - change.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 19 June 2013, 16:21:59
My sentiments exactly.  Thank you for explaining it so eloquently.

I really hope that when you will become a top vendor you will not change prices accordingly.

In fact I think that it would just take 2 (max 3) of the top vendors having a good product to lower the prices for everything to change soon. The other top vendors to keep up will have to lower prices too and by and by the prices will go down globally in all the DMT market accordingly (btw the same happened in the market of coke some time ago when a vendor started selling good one at much lower prices; all the other vendors had naturally to do the same to keep up).

It is my sincere hope that someone of the top vendors will take this issue at heart and revise a little prices so that all people will be able to enjoy this beautiful substance at not too high costs.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 19 June 2013, 17:30:22
I agree with all of you. Good equipment, commitment to clean product and the risks now that mhrb is on the DEA radar are all considerations I think of when I consider bashing vendors for the prices they ask. Some are way too high for my blood but I have ponied up for RP before and live his quality.  On the other side MU makes some of my fave at a great price. It is not white but personally his tan rocked my universe with no ill effects whatsoever. Piss yellow is not always lye as some insist either.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 19 June 2013, 20:16:43
P.S. welcome Ringo! The price of L is super ridiculous these days. Quintupled in the last decade. Prob because RCs are so much easier to make?  Death to those selling 25i as acid. But 10 bucks a hit???!!! I used to pay 2 for family tabs and 50 for a vial of super clean stuff.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 19 June 2013, 22:30:33
@ Flyhigh, haha thanks brotha! +1
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 19 June 2013, 22:36:25
P.S. welcome Ringo! The price of L is super ridiculous these days. Quintupled in the last decade. Prob because RCs are so much easier to make?  Death to those selling 25i as acid. But 10 bucks a hit???!!! I used to pay 2 for family tabs and 50 for a vial of super clean stuff.

I was buying acid a decade ago, and I assure you 50USD per vial was NOT the going rate.  It's awesome for you if you had such a connection, but you shouldn't let it colour your expectations.  From what I've seen, the prices on SR are kind of high across the board ... but if you're coming here, you take or leave the market as it is.  If you can get a better deal elsewhere, then by all means do so, but if you're not willing to walk away, the vendors have no incentive to lower prices.  That's just how market forces work.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 20 June 2013, 06:06:47
P.S. welcome Ringo! The price of L is super ridiculous these days. Quintupled in the last decade. Prob because RCs are so much easier to make?  Death to those selling 25i as acid. But 10 bucks a hit???!!! I used to pay 2 for family tabs and 50 for a vial of super clean stuff.
Yeah the connect was awesome indeed but long gone now. Went legit and opened a business while he was on top and it was 13yrs actually. Been happy seeing more L on SR and dropping prices finally.  I may have to get some finally. Been pretty happy with my 2cb and 4ho-mipt but good L would be super. It will happen for me when the time is right.

I was buying acid a decade ago, and I assure you 50USD per vial was NOT the going rate.  It's awesome for you if you had such a connection, but you shouldn't let it colour your expectations.  From what I've seen, the prices on SR are kind of high across the board ... but if you're coming here, you take or leave the market as it is.  If you can get a better deal elsewhere, then by all means do so, but if you're not willing to walk away, the vendors have no incentive to lower prices.  That's just how market forces work.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 20 June 2013, 06:54:41
My sentiments exactly.  Thank you for explaining it so eloquently.

I really hope that when you will become a top vendor you will not change prices accordingly.

In fact I think that it would just take 2 (max 3) of the top vendors having a good product to lower the prices for everything to change soon. The other top vendors to keep up will have to lower prices too and by and by the prices will go down globally in all the DMT market accordingly (btw the same happened in the market of coke some time ago when a vendor started selling good one at much lower prices; all the other vendors had naturally to do the same to keep up).

It is my sincere hope that someone of the top vendors will take this issue at heart and revise a little prices so that all people will be able to enjoy this beautiful substance at not too high costs.

This is exactly what I'm hoping for.  I'm not trying to low ball all the top DMT vendors here, but I really do believe that the price is a tad on the outrageous side.  When I question some of the top vendor's motives for their high prices,  they are hard pressed to come up with a definitive answer.  They pretty much tell me they charge what people will pay.  It reminded me of being at an amusement park being priced gouged for a bottle of water.  I know the risks, price, frustrations, time, stress as well as any.  However I'm completely fine with the lower prices I charge.  I genuinely feel it's fair, and beyond that I am just happy to share this amazing molecule at a price the regular guy can afford.  It's not peyote,  the things that produce DMT are beyond numerable. Some vendors need to step back and take a look through the eyes of the buyer.  180$ a gram?!?!?! I wouldn't charge my enemy that much! Hopefully I can do my part to slow the rising cost of DMT, while providing some healthy competition in regards to quality as well.  I stand behind my product, behind this great community of revolutionaries, and behind DMT in general.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: valakki on 20 June 2013, 17:56:13
hi everyone. beeen a long time.

I just got me a proper electric vaporizer!!! no more fucking around with sandwiching and machine and other stuff. i just load it, turn on the heat slowly and hit it!
I got me a nice picture, too  a sun rising on an alien planet. I'm gonna look at that while I hit it for the first time.
 send me some good vibes and maybe I`ll write a report!

Peace for ya`ll and good trippin!
edit:
Oh.. and the vendor was drshrooms. yellow dmt. arrived in 2 days. faster than domestic. package is still great! product.. well..  ;D

edit2:
The product is powder like. (yes I just opened the package)  last time he sent me crystals. I'm not that happy about this. but it was the cheapest on sr and i think there was no shipping cost so i should stop whining!
Smell seems to be weaker than last time.
I loaded a tiny bit into the vaporizer. watched it melt and took a few tokes.it is potent. I did not fly but it did the trick. I actually burned some of it because I set the vaporizer on a high temperature. so low dose, bit burned and it still made me go ommm. 

so  looks like a A+ product. Im just not happy about the powdered crystals. but this is more like a visual thing and does not affect the quality.

gonna calibrate the setup a little before i start doing higher doses. (need to fix up the airflow)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bobsredmill on 20 June 2013, 20:18:42
has anyone actually proven their stated % purity? i see synthesized DMT rated over 97% pure and what i would guess is an extract claiming to be 99.9% pure.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 20 June 2013, 20:52:55
has anyone actually proven their stated % purity? i see synthesized DMT rated over 97% pure and what i would guess is an extract claiming to be 99.9% pure.

No, unlike other big drug threads I have not yet seen anyone testing DMT in any of the test centres and reporting back.
Would be nice though!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 20 June 2013, 23:39:05
My sentiments exactly.  Thank you for explaining it so eloquently.

I really hope that when you will become a top vendor you will not change prices accordingly.

In fact I think that it would just take 2 (max 3) of the top vendors having a good product to lower the prices for everything to change soon. The other top vendors to keep up will have to lower prices too and by and by the prices will go down globally in all the DMT market accordingly (btw the same happened in the market of coke some time ago when a vendor started selling good one at much lower prices; all the other vendors had naturally to do the same to keep up).

It is my sincere hope that someone of the top vendors will take this issue at heart and revise a little prices so that all people will be able to enjoy this beautiful substance at not too high costs.

This is exactly what I'm hoping for.  I'm not trying to low ball all the top DMT vendors here, but I really do believe that the price is a tad on the outrageous side.  When I question some of the top vendor's motives for their high prices,  they are hard pressed to come up with a definitive answer.  They pretty much tell me they charge what people will pay.  It reminded me of being at an amusement park being priced gouged for a bottle of water.  I know the risks, price, frustrations, time, stress as well as any.  However I'm completely fine with the lower prices I charge.  I genuinely feel it's fair, and beyond that I am just happy to share this amazing molecule at a price the regular guy can afford.  It's not peyote,  the things that produce DMT are beyond numerable. Some vendors need to step back and take a look through the eyes of the buyer.  180$ a gram?!?!?! I wouldn't charge my enemy that much! Hopefully I can do my part to slow the rising cost of DMT, while providing some healthy competition in regards to quality as well.  I stand behind my product, behind this great community of revolutionaries, and behind DMT in general.

You would do very well here on SR if you can maintain this approach. We are certainly waiting for a golden era of DMT here on the Road.

You have my best wishes, Ringo!

Thanks! I definitely plan on maintaining.  We'll see how it goes.  I like to think of it as my counter-balancing act.  Hopefully it will set the market on a path to the "golden era" of DMT you mentioned.  We all deserve it.  It's not gonna be easy, but no revolution is.  No matter how small.  Some people will love me, some will hate me,  but that's just how it is whenever you try to make a change.  Maybe other vendors will follow suit, maybe not.  Whatever change I make, as long as it's beneficial to someone,  I'll be satisfied.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: valakki on 21 June 2013, 00:55:09
dont buy eectric vaporizers with a glass body. all the D waporizes on the glass. heats up slowly. looks amazing but i couldnt get a a good hit.
vasted a 100 mg. (its all on the glass)
fuck im building another machine. 50 dollars worth of cash down the drain . im gonna have to start smokin hash to make use of this piece of shit  .

eh sorry bout this..
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: gingerballs on 21 June 2013, 08:44:50
i've been looking at moonfruit's DMT.. I'm a little hesitant though, since i'm not even allowed to send him a PM. a requirement is that i should have had spent $500 USD.. i dont think i quite hit that number, but my number in in terms of bitcoins adjusted for what they are valued now is over $500. he also requires FE..

i guess he hasn't been receiving good feedback lately, he requires linux, and his listing is not very friendly. i think i'll have to find a different vendor. such a shame.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 21 June 2013, 09:09:20
dont buy eectric vaporizers with a glass body. all the D waporizes on the glass. heats up slowly. looks amazing but i couldnt get a a good hit.
vasted a 100 mg. (its all on the glass)

I'm sorry about you wasting your money, but yes, that's a thing to take in consideration with DMT. With glass it crystallizes very very fast from vapor, you cannot have it sit there for long.
If you buy a vaporizer it should be one that has plastic (as the volcano) or it is very fast on vaporizing the DMT so you can toke it all at once or while the vapor is formed (as it happens, in fact, with the Machine).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 21 June 2013, 16:16:33
@ valakki, damn that blows brotha!...yah when i saw your post the other day, i secretly had a bad feeling about it, as I've had friends try and use their glass bulb electric vaporizer. 

Unfortunately, it just doesn't work.  I am not sure if it is crystallizing before you can take it in, or if the vapor isn't hot enough for it to be properly vaporized.


If your Daddy Warbucks, you should grab the Volcano.  It works like a frigging charm.  I promise you'll have no issues with it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 21 June 2013, 19:56:37
dont buy eectric vaporizers with a glass body. all the D waporizes on the glass. heats up slowly. looks amazing but i couldnt get a a good hit.
vasted a 100 mg. (its all on the glass)

I'm sorry about you wasting your money, but yes, that's a thing to take in consideration with DMT. With glass it crystallizes very very fast from vapor, you cannot have it sit there for long.
If you buy a vaporizer it should be one that has plastic (as the volcano) or it is very fast on vaporizing the DMT so you can toke it all at once or while the vapor is formed (as it happens, in fact, with the Machine).

The machine. I love mine especially after the detailed usage tutorial in the OP helped me learn how to get almost the everything in the first hit.
i've been looking at moonfruit's DMT.. I'm a little hesitant though, since i'm not even allowed to send him a PM. a requirement is that i should have had spent $500 USD.. i dont think i quite hit that number, but my number in in terms of bitcoins adjusted for what they are valued now is over $500. he also requires FE..

i guess he hasn't been receiving good feedback lately, he requires linux, and his listing is not very friendly. i think i'll have to find a different vendor. such a shame.

MU never asks FE. What are you even talking about.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: valakki on 21 June 2013, 20:38:48
alright thanks for the answers!

another thing
 I just noticed that there is strange leftover residue in the vaporization chamber. colored yellow and its not vaping or burnin if i heat it.
the dope was powdered not crystals.  does this means that the powdered packs are hit up?

the prices are really fuckin steep. people buy it like candy. good money on shitty gear.

im not vouching for DRShrooms anymore.Can you pull it off from the main page?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: gingerballs on 21 June 2013, 22:06:24
dont buy eectric vaporizers with a glass body. all the D waporizes on the glass. heats up slowly. looks amazing but i couldnt get a a good hit.
vasted a 100 mg. (its all on the glass)

I'm sorry about you wasting your money, but yes, that's a thing to take in consideration with DMT. With glass it crystallizes very very fast from vapor, you cannot have it sit there for long.
If you buy a vaporizer it should be one that has plastic (as the volcano) or it is very fast on vaporizing the DMT so you can toke it all at once or while the vapor is formed (as it happens, in fact, with the Machine).

The machine. I love mine especially after the detailed usage tutorial in the OP helped me learn how to get almost the everything in the first hit.
i've been looking at moonfruit's DMT.. I'm a little hesitant though, since i'm not even allowed to send him a PM. a requirement is that i should have had spent $500 USD.. i dont think i quite hit that number, but my number in in terms of bitcoins adjusted for what they are valued now is over $500. he also requires FE..

i guess he hasn't been receiving good feedback lately, he requires linux, and his listing is not very friendly. i think i'll have to find a different vendor. such a shame.

MU never asks FE. What are you even talking about.

you're right, i misread the info on his page.. haven't used this in a while and i mistook "no auto finalize" as FE. yes, i now remember the difference.

he PM'd me calling my "mother a whore" and to tell everyone on the forums that he said that. maybe he has too many customers to care to be customer-friendly, i don't know. i definitely wouldn't trust such an acerbic vendor who discourages his customers from contacting him.

i don't care enough to get mad though, but trusting a vendor with character issues like that is not worthwhile.. even if his stuff is good and cheaper than his competitors. btw, i initially made this post not to deride him, but to get more info so i could make a purchasing decision. his PM cemented my choice.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 21 June 2013, 22:49:54
alright thanks for the answers!

another thing
 I just noticed that there is strange leftover residue in the vaporization chamber. colored yellow and its not vaping or burnin if i heat it.
the dope was powdered not crystals.  does this means that the powdered packs are hit up?

the prices are really fuckin steep. people buy it like candy. good money on shitty gear.

im not vouching for DRShrooms anymore.Can you pull it off from the main page?

@valakki, I used to have a problem with ANY dmt when I was experimenting with it using an oil pipe - some yellow residue was left behind. I am confident that this is not an evidence of poor spice being sold to you. As soon as I moved from the oil pipe (crack pipe) to the machine that same spice was working perfectly for me. From memory that yellow DMT residue contains more of a DMT derivative that are products of heating and oxidisation and can be flipped back to n,n-DMT somehow.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 22 June 2013, 00:21:17
im not vouching for DRShrooms anymore.Can you pull it off from the main page?

done.

@valakki, I used to have a problem with ANY dmt when I was experimenting with it using an oil pipe - some yellow residue was left behind. I am confident that this is not an evidence of poor spice being sold to you. As soon as I moved from the oil pipe (crack pipe) to the machine that same spice was working perfectly for me. From memory that yellow DMT residue contains more of a DMT derivative that are products of heating and oxidisation and can be flipped back to n,n-DMT somehow.

DMT-oxide is indeed yellow.  However, I never had yellow residue from smoking white DMT from an oil pipe.  Also: DMT-oxide is perfectly smokable.  My own extract contains some, and it makes the experience slightly lengthier and slightly different from a regular DMT trip (and yes, it does leave behind some yellow residue).  There's no problem with this, and I wouldn't bother going to any real lengths to convert it back to regular freebase.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 22 June 2013, 07:08:44
im not vouching for DRShrooms anymore.Can you pull it off from the main page?

done.

@valakki, I used to have a problem with ANY dmt when I was experimenting with it using an oil pipe - some yellow residue was left behind. I am confident that this is not an evidence of poor spice being sold to you. As soon as I moved from the oil pipe (crack pipe) to the machine that same spice was working perfectly for me. From memory that yellow DMT residue contains more of a DMT derivative that are products of heating and oxidisation and can be flipped back to n,n-DMT somehow.

DMT-oxide is indeed yellow.  However, I never had yellow residue from smoking white DMT from an oil pipe.  Also: DMT-oxide is perfectly smokable.  My own extract contains some, and it makes the experience slightly lengthier and slightly different from a regular DMT trip (and yes, it does leave behind some yellow residue).  There's no problem with this, and I wouldn't bother going to any real lengths to convert it back to regular freebase.

Thank you - great explanation!
If this is the case we should not be taking DRShrooms off our OP.
I take it valakki was using his yellow spice, so residue is ok.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 22 June 2013, 07:11:59
im not vouching for DRShrooms anymore.Can you pull it off from the main page?

done.

@valakki, I used to have a problem with ANY dmt when I was experimenting with it using an oil pipe - some yellow residue was left behind. I am confident that this is not an evidence of poor spice being sold to you. As soon as I moved from the oil pipe (crack pipe) to the machine that same spice was working perfectly for me. From memory that yellow DMT residue contains more of a DMT derivative that are products of heating and oxidisation and can be flipped back to n,n-DMT somehow.

DMT-oxide is indeed yellow.  However, I never had yellow residue from smoking white DMT from an oil pipe.  Also: DMT-oxide is perfectly smokable.  My own extract contains some, and it makes the experience slightly lengthier and slightly different from a regular DMT trip (and yes, it does leave behind some yellow residue).  There's no problem with this, and I wouldn't bother going to any real lengths to convert it back to regular freebase.

Thank you - great explanation!
If this is the case we should not be taking DRShrooms off our OP.
I take it valakki was using his yellow spice, so residue is ok.

When I clean my machine I have been using methanol and evaporating it. The remaining reddish yellow goo I believe is DMT Oxide as it usually has sat for quite a while. I am collecting it over time to try a zinc recovery process I saw on the nexus wiki or just making some changa (maybe the first because I am a nerd like that and I love to watch processes happen). Looks like it may be a good process to use in the beginning of an extract since the oxide doesnt dissolve in naptha and it may be very present in the mhrb etc...

I just got in from a very arduous roadtrip and I am crapping out on the solstice plans to journey in hyperspace after I smoked some ganja. I did read there is a supermoon SUNDAY.  :)ANYONE UP FOR A SYNCHRONIZED HYPERSPACE EVENT?   :D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 22 June 2013, 08:44:33
I had a very bizarre and unpleasant experience with DMT tonight.  I loaded up a good amount of DMT and there was some jungle spice left in the pipe from the other night.  I had drunk two beers.  They were homebrew, so they were much stronger than most commercial beer.  For specificity, I reckon I had consumed about 4 ounces of pure alcohol over the course of the 3 hours prior to smoking DMT.  I rarely drink, but I have a high natural tolerance to alcohol, and I did not consider myself intoxicated in the least when I pushed off.  However, when the trip went sideways in a serious way and I was asking "WTF?" the DMT pointed out the beers and said that was why.  I very much discourage mixing these two drugs.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 22 June 2013, 08:51:50
I had a very bizarre and unpleasant experience with DMT tonight.  I loaded up a good amount of DMT and there was some jungle spice left in the pipe from the other night.  I had drunk two beers.  They were homebrew, so they were much stronger than most commercial beer.  For specificity, I reckon I had consumed about 2 ounces of pure alcohol over the course of the 3 hours prior to smoking DMT.  I rarely drink, but I have a high natural tolerance to alcohol, and I did not consider myself intoxicated in the least when I pushed off.  However, when the trip went sideways in a serious way and I was asking "WTF?" the DMT pointed out the beers and said that was why.  I very much discourage mixing these two drugs.

I can not agree more! My only horror trip ever - I came back what felt like hair standing up on my head on its own accord - was the trip after two beers.
I am with DMT on this - alcohol is pointless and dumb drug that only has a role of social glue given its acceptance.
It would have been great if history would have gone a different way and we had psychedelics legal and alcohol not :)


When I clean my machine I have been using methanol and evaporating it. The remaining reddish yellow goo I believe is DMT Oxide as it usually has sat for quite a while. I am collecting it over time to try a zinc recovery process I saw on the nexus wiki or just making some changa (maybe the first because I am a nerd like that and I love to watch processes happen). Looks like it may be a good process to use in the beginning of an extract since the oxide doesnt dissolve in naptha and it may be very present in the mhrb etc...


@Princeblack, I have an old machine that I am still trying to get acetone for - I have been told that 100% pure acetone would be best to take all the left-overs out and will evaporate without a trace, but what do I do with that goo is something I am not confident. Ideally I would like to bring it back into n,n-DMT state - is is simple enough? If not, is it possible to put ground syrian rue and turn that into changa?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: skeezr95 on 22 June 2013, 19:31:57
I received my sample from Ringo Deathstar yesterday, 100mg right on the money. The stealth was great, my friends thought the package was just junk mail! So it blended in great. They couldn't understand why I was so excited to be receiving junk mail. Haha. The DMT was a beautiful yellow, with chunks of crystal spread throughout a small amount of fine powder, definitely top quality! It was exactly as Ringo promised it would be. The trip itself left me in wonder and awe. It was an extremely enlightening experience and I will write more about it this evening when my girlfriend and I type up our trip reports. All in all, there's nothing more I could have asked of Ringo. He was very kind and caring in his communication and was always honest. You can tell that he truly appreciates his customers and wants to help spread this wonderful product around to people who will use it for a higher purpose. He will without a doubt have a returning customer!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: skeezr95 on 22 June 2013, 22:36:53
DMT Trip Report

Male, 20 years old

Dosage:
50mg of light, almost neon yellow crystals smoked out of a large bowl sandwiched between two layers of marijuana.

Enhancements:
1.25g of P.E. Cubensis mushrooms eaten 2.5 hours prior to trip

Provider:
Ringo Deathstar

Preparation:
12hr food fast and 3hr water fast

25minute barefoot meditation outside at sunset prior to smoking

Setting:
Dark living room right after sunset, only light source was a tv in the corner of the room that was playing the sound of gentle ocean waves.

Experience:
I laid back on the couch to begin sparking the bowl we had layered with weed and DMT. I sparked the top layer of bud and pulled the flame away as to not burn the DMT. I slowly inhaled 4 hits, holding each as long as I could and held the last until my head fell back onto the pillow and was propelled into the trip. I was transported to a hallway that had two blue-and-yellow godly faces on either side and a blinding light at the end of the hall. I inherently understood that the end of the hallway is where I wanted to be, I just needed the answer to get there. There seemed to be so much more to it than just walking, I needed guidance. I felt that if I could just make it to the light then all of life's truths would be revealed to me. The faces on walls began speaking to me, telling me that "The answers you seek are within you. You must simply unlock them through spiritual enlightenment, then you will be ready for the truth." The light at the end of the hallway slowly started to dim and everything went dark and I began to regain awareness of my worldly body and surroundings. Afterwards, I was stuck in a daze of how paradoxically simple and complex the gods' answer was for 30 minutes or so.

Timeline:
Onset at T+1 minute and 5 seconds
Peak for 5 minutes and 35 seconds
Began the descent to baseline after roughly 8 minutes
Completely baseline after about 1 hour and 15 minutes
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: valakki on 22 June 2013, 22:56:40
im not vouching for DRShrooms anymore.Can you pull it off from the main page?

done.

@valakki, I used to have a problem with ANY dmt when I was experimenting with it using an oil pipe - some yellow residue was left behind. I am confident that this is not an evidence of poor spice being sold to you. As soon as I moved from the oil pipe (crack pipe) to the machine that same spice was working perfectly for me. From memory that yellow DMT residue contains more of a DMT derivative that are products of heating and oxidisation and can be flipped back to n,n-DMT somehow.

DMT-oxide is indeed yellow.  However, I never had yellow residue from smoking white DMT from an oil pipe.  Also: DMT-oxide is perfectly smokable.  My own extract contains some, and it makes the experience slightly lengthier and slightly different from a regular DMT trip (and yes, it does leave behind some yellow residue).  There's no problem with this, and I wouldn't bother going to any real lengths to convert it back to regular freebase.

Thank you - great explanation!
If this is the case we should not be taking DRShrooms off our OP.
I take it valakki was using his yellow spice, so residue is ok.

Ok so maybe the residue is leftover from extraction. that's good to know.
 I never noticed any before. but I only the machine before this new pipe . I estimate it that the purity is about 50-60%. based on the leftovers.  Not that bad.. but could be better.

about the op ... (no bad vibes here)
 DRShrooms is still a good vendor. Im just not vouching for him anymore. I don't want to see my name next to him.

  the package was lighting fast. faster then domestic. sealed wonderfully.
amazing delivery.. 
But
I will only vouch for the best product.
based on looks, smell, taste of vapor....  This was not IT. Something is off. I don't like this batch. maybe its because its powdered.
....only cost me 17 dollars  so i guess I get what I pay for.
its still a good buy if you got leftover coins.
 Ill buy some again in a few months to see if anything changed. batches come and go. some is better, some is worse.

but the next round(after all my other packages arrive hehe)... Im going for the most expensive Eu white spice and test that with a new and improved machine that I'm building!
so yay!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 23 June 2013, 03:31:22
I received my sample from Ringo Deathstar yesterday, 100mg right on the money. The stealth was great, my friends thought the package was just junk mail! So it blended in great. They couldn't understand why I was so excited to be receiving junk mail. Haha. The DMT was a beautiful yellow, with chunks of crystal spread throughout a small amount of fine powder, definitely top quality! It was exactly as Ringo promised it would be. The trip itself left me in wonder and awe. It was an extremely enlightening experience and I will write more about it this evening when my girlfriend and I type up our trip reports. All in all, there's nothing more I could have asked of Ringo. He was very kind and caring in his communication and was always honest. You can tell that he truly appreciates his customers and wants to help spread this wonderful product around to people who will use it for a higher purpose. He will without a doubt have a returning customer!

Thank you very much sir!  I'm glad everything turned out great for you.  I like the fact that they thought it was junk mail.  That makes me feel confident with my stealth.  I am thankful for your review and trip report, and appreciate your thoroughness.

DMT Trip Report

Male, 20 years old

Dosage:
50mg of light, almost neon yellow crystals smoked out of a large bowl sandwiched between two layers of marijuana.

Enhancements:
1.25g of P.E. Cubensis mushrooms eaten 2.5 hours prior to trip

Provider:
Ringo Deathstar

Preparation:
12hr food fast and 3hr water fast

25minute barefoot meditation outside at sunset prior to smoking

Setting:
Dark living room right after sunset, only light source was a tv in the corner of the room that was playing the sound of gentle ocean waves.

Experience:
I laid back on the couch to begin sparking the bowl we had layered with weed and DMT. I sparked the top layer of bud and pulled the flame away as to not burn the DMT. I slowly inhaled 4 hits, holding each as long as I could and held the last until my head fell back onto the pillow and was propelled into the trip. I was transported to a hallway that had two blue-and-yellow godly faces on either side and a blinding light at the end of the hall. I inherently understood that the end of the hallway is where I wanted to be, I just needed the answer to get there. There seemed to be so much more to it than just walking, I needed guidance. I felt that if I could just make it to the light then all of life's truths would be revealed to me. The faces on walls began speaking to me, telling me that "The answers you seek are within you. You must simply unlock them through spiritual enlightenment, then you will be ready for the truth." The light at the end of the hallway slowly started to dim and everything went dark and I began to regain awareness of my worldly body and surroundings. Afterwards, I was stuck in a daze of how paradoxically simple and complex the gods' answer was for 30 minutes or so.

Timeline:
Onset at T+1 minute and 5 seconds
Peak for 5 minutes and 35 seconds
Began the descent to baseline after roughly 8 minutes
Completely baseline after about 1 hour and 15 minutes


This is very similar to a breakthrough I had recently.  I sat in the dark with music playing lightly in the background.  After smoking the DMT,  it was like I was in a tunnel with figures dancing in the dark.  A red light appeared at the end, and my psyche floated through the tunnel towards it on the sound waves of the music.  It was very peaceful and freeing. 

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 23 June 2013, 07:52:01
I had a very bizarre and unpleasant experience with DMT tonight.  I loaded up a good amount of DMT and there was some jungle spice left in the pipe from the other night.  I had drunk two beers.  They were homebrew, so they were much stronger than most commercial beer.  For specificity, I reckon I had consumed about 2 ounces of pure alcohol over the course of the 3 hours prior to smoking DMT.  I rarely drink, but I have a high natural tolerance to alcohol, and I did not consider myself intoxicated in the least when I pushed off.  However, when the trip went sideways in a serious way and I was asking "WTF?" the DMT pointed out the beers and said that was why.  I very much discourage mixing these two drugs.

I can not agree more! My only horror trip ever - I came back what felt like hair standing up on my head on its own accord - was the trip after two beers.
I am with DMT on this - alcohol is pointless and dumb drug that only has a role of social glue given its acceptance.
It would have been great if history would have gone a different way and we had psychedelics legal and alcohol not :)


When I clean my machine I have been using methanol and evaporating it. The remaining reddish yellow goo I believe is DMT Oxide as it usually has sat for quite a while. I am collecting it over time to try a zinc recovery process I saw on the nexus wiki or just making some changa (maybe the first because I am a nerd like that and I love to watch processes happen). Looks like it may be a good process to use in the beginning of an extract since the oxide doesnt dissolve in naptha and it may be very present in the mhrb etc...


@Princeblack, I have an old machine that I am still trying to get acetone for - I have been told that 100% pure acetone would be best to take all the left-overs out and will evaporate without a trace, but what do I do with that goo is something I am not confident. Ideally I would like to bring it back into n,n-DMT state - is is simple enough? If not, is it possible to put ground syrian rue and turn that into changa?
I haven't touched a drop in over 5 yrs. Sets off a lot of inner demons for me and it was not easy quitting. Ha and on that note if you were able to get some Pure grain alcohol you might can dissolve it with that. There is a tek on the nexus on how to make acetone anhydrous (taking the water out) seems not too difficult. Maybe you can find it on one of those home chemistry site in small qty. people use it to clean electronic components etc...
PMing u a link 8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 23 June 2013, 08:01:33
DMT Trip Report

Male, 20 years old

Dosage:
50mg of light, almost neon yellow crystals smoked out of a large bowl sandwiched between two layers of marijuana.

Enhancements:
1.25g of P.E. Cubensis mushrooms eaten 2.5 hours prior to trip

Provider:
Ringo Deathstar

Preparation:
12hr food fast and 3hr water fast

25minute barefoot meditation outside at sunset prior to smoking

Setting:
Dark living room right after sunset, only light source was a tv in the corner of the room that was playing the sound of gentle ocean waves.

Experience:
I laid back on the couch to begin sparking the bowl we had layered with weed and DMT. I sparked the top layer of bud and pulled the flame away as to not burn the DMT. I slowly inhaled 4 hits, holding each as long as I could and held the last until my head fell back onto the pillow and was propelled into the trip. I was transported to a hallway that had two blue-and-yellow godly faces on either side and a blinding light at the end of the hall. I inherently understood that the end of the hallway is where I wanted to be, I just needed the answer to get there. There seemed to be so much more to it than just walking, I needed guidance. I felt that if I could just make it to the light then all of life's truths would be revealed to me. The faces on walls began speaking to me, telling me that "The answers you seek are within you. You must simply unlock them through spiritual enlightenment, then you will be ready for the truth." The light at the end of the hallway slowly started to dim and everything went dark and I began to regain awareness of my worldly body and surroundings. Afterwards, I was stuck in a daze of how paradoxically simple and complex the gods' answer was for 30 minutes or so.

Timeline:
Onset at T+1 minute and 5 seconds
Peak for 5 minutes and 35 seconds
Began the descent to baseline after roughly 8 minutes
Completely baseline after about 1 hour and 15 minutes

Nice thx for the report! Sounds like the beginning of good things for you.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 23 June 2013, 09:29:02
I haven't touched a drop in over 5 yrs. Sets off a lot of inner demons for me and it was not easy quitting. Ha and on that note if you were able to get some Pure grain alcohol you might can dissolve it with that. There is a tek on the nexus on how to make acetone anhydrous (taking the water out) seems not too difficult. Maybe you can find it on one of those home chemistry site in small qty. people use it to clean electronic components etc...
PMing u a link 8)

Certainly if you have alcohol dependence, you shouldn't drink.  As I said above, I rarely do and I don't ever actually get drunk ... but I do enjoy fine things: beer, wine, scotch.  I brew my own beer, and enjoy creating and appreciating complex interplay between flavours.  The alcohol is sort of incidental; sometimes, it's a welcome bonus, and sometimes it's a bit of a nuisance ... but it's simply not possible to make these flavours without it.  I wasn't even intentionally mixing drugs last night---the alcohol effects were almost nonexistent until I smoked the DMT.  Anyway, I wrote about the experience to warn you all ... not to sound like a lush. -_o
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 23 June 2013, 16:53:18
Hey Guys!! 

I am about to order some domestic dmt, and i want to know everyone's opinion on who has the highest quality stuff?  I see that the new vendor JeffBob has good crystalline look to his pictures, and that there is a new cheap other domestic vendor Ringo Deathstar...

I actually think i narrowed it down to JeffBob, Ringo, FractalBliss... can anyone tell me how Fractalbliss's journeys are??   

Need help guys, need the best!   ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 23 June 2013, 17:30:22
Hey Guys!! 

I am about to order some domestic dmt, and i want to know everyone's opinion on who has the highest quality stuff?  I see that the new vendor JeffBob has good crystalline look to his pictures, and that there is a new cheap other domestic vendor Ringo Deathstar...

I actually think i narrowed it down to JeffBob, Ringo, FractalBliss... can anyone tell me how Fractalbliss's journeys are??   

Need help guys, need the best!   ;D
ringo is the best deal, and his dmt is the brightest ive seen on the road, indicating the highest purity.

packaging is quite safe as well.

disclaimer:i have not tried out the other two vendors.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: skeezr95 on 23 June 2013, 18:16:25
I have no reservations in recommending Ringo. I was overly satisfied with his product
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 23 June 2013, 18:45:30
but the next round(after all my other packages arrive hehe)... Im going for the most expensive Eu white spice and test that with a new and improved machine that I'm building!
so yay!

If you want best purity in the EU then you have to try ChemDogSunrise and/or Multi-Exciter (the first uses a revised Loki's Tek, the second a revised STB; both have exceptional products). There are (much) more expensive EU vendors but IMO those two have the purest DMT right now (if you want N-N-DMT) of the EU vendors (maybe also Vatican has a pure product but I've never had the pleasure to try it, so I cannot say for sure - ahhh, too many vendors to try, too little money!). I usually buy always from ME for larger orders because it is the best bet for me quality vs. price.

If you want to go pure expensive and not care about international you can try Dreameansion; I've heard many good things about his DMT, but I never tried it myself because sincerely the price is too steep and I don't know if the increase in quality (in case) warrants the increased price it would take. I mean, how are you going to acknowledge a 1% difference (or even 1.5 just in case)?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 23 June 2013, 19:23:08
I meant out of all US domestic vendors... but yeah I think i am going to go with either Ringo DeathStar, JeffBob, FractalBliss... I really like the way that JeffBob's picture looks, just absolutely shimmering crystals.  But FractalBliss has all those reviews...DAMNIT!! I dont know what im gonna do, but i gotta decide today!  8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 24 June 2013, 04:22:43
Alright guys, i am gonna give Ringo Deathstar a shot!!  Will update in a few days, and am hoping that all the good things i heard on this thread are true!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 24 June 2013, 08:24:55
Alright guys, i am gonna give Ringo Deathstar a shot!!  Will update in a few days, and am hoping that all the good things i heard on this thread are true!

Hey thanks!  I aim to please.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: musichighlife on 24 June 2013, 09:53:49
I wanted to just chime in with some support for Fractalbliss, I had ordered his 500mg listing and was really pleased. Shipping was incredibly quick and the stealth was very discreet. Only had the chance to journey once so far but man it was worthwhile. An instant breakthrough and one of few breakthroughs for me in my time journeying into hyperspace. Packed up roughly 40-50 mg in my Machine and BLASTOFF....the visuals were intense and I had a slight auditory hallucination in the beginning of this deep rumbling whooshing sound that sort of whisked me away into hyperspace and stayed almost constant throughout my trip. I felt like I was shown the inside of a thought of a metaphysical being. So hard to describe details but I was thoroughly impressed. Buy from Fractalbliss with confidence!!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 24 June 2013, 11:15:33
@musichighlife, thank you for bringing in your experience and a great review - this is what this thread is about!
And +1 indeed for time and effort to share!

I will chime in for MultiExciter - had an amazing trip bordering on breakthrough, but finally I can bring some small glimpses of it back - not all the details, but bits and bobs, which for me is a massive win. I can go back to some of the visual dynamic sequences and remember some of the insights - truly amazing. I will probably be getting a refill from this vendor when I run out. From a lot of product I have tried this one and chemdog's sample were the cleanest.

Be good,
IM
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: musichighlife on 24 June 2013, 11:38:03
@musichighlife, thank you for bringing in your experience and a great review - this is what this thread is about!
And +1 indeed for time and effort to share!

I will chime in for MultiExciter - had an amazing trip bordering on breakthrough, but finally I can bring some small glimpses of it back - not all the details, but bits and bobs, which for me is a massive win. I can go back to some of the visual dynamic sequences and remember some of the insights - truly amazing. I will probably be getting a refill from this vendor when I run out. From a lot of product I have tried this one and chemdog's sample were the cleanest.

Be good,
IM

Much love IM, DMT was the reason I found the road and it was such a blessing, I strive to give back any way I can.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 24 June 2013, 13:01:38
I will probably be getting a refill from this vendor when I run out. From a lot of product I have tried this one and chemdog's sample were the cleanest.

It seems we have the same tastes.
Also in my personal opinion both Multi-Exciter and ChemDog have the best products of the EU vendors (at last of the ones I tried).
I said many times that ME is my personal favorite vendor (quality vs. price) and I hope he will continue this way for a long period (maybe decreasing a little prices - ME?!?!? - one can always hope ;) ).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 24 June 2013, 23:11:51
Well i decided on Ringo Deathstar!!  I will update with you guys in about a week!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 25 June 2013, 20:28:43
I haven't touched a drop in over 5 yrs. Sets off a lot of inner demons for me and it was not easy quitting. Ha and on that note if you were able to get some Pure grain alcohol you might can dissolve it with that. There is a tek on the nexus on how to make acetone anhydrous (taking the water out) seems not too difficult. Maybe you can find it on one of those home chemistry site in small qty. people use it to clean electronic components etc...
PMing u a link 8)

Certainly if you have alcohol dependence, you shouldn't drink.  As I said above, I rarely do and I don't ever actually get drunk ... but I do enjoy fine things: beer, wine, scotch.  I brew my own beer, and enjoy creating and appreciating complex interplay between flavours.  The alcohol is sort of incidental; sometimes, it's a welcome bonus, and sometimes it's a bit of a nuisance ... but it's simply not possible to make these flavours without it.  I wasn't even intentionally mixing drugs last night---the alcohol effects were almost nonexistent until I smoked the DMT.  Anyway, I wrote about the experience to warn you all ... not to sound like a lush. -_o
Mos def that was all about me. Shroom+alcohol=bad trip for me too. Once upon a time when I decided combine with cocaine I became an addict and literally live in my own personal hell.I have a great respect for brewers of the hops and the yeast but for me there is no turning back. DMT has even caused me to look at how I use psychedelics and weed and put some dicipline where it needed to be. I love that about it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: omnis on 25 June 2013, 21:04:41
Hi there :) I am an established European vendor and just wanted to present you my new batch of dmt with a little picture http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/1m2.jpg


I am currently sending out 3 samples of the dmt and 2 samples of my non-MAOi changa blends.
Check out my main thread for the samples and more info http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=29147

Tell me what you think, much love
omnis
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 25 June 2013, 22:08:49
Hi there :) I am an established European vendor and just wanted to present you my new batch of dmt with a little picture http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/1m2.jpg


I am currently sending out 3 samples of the dmt and 2 samples of my non-MAOi changa blends.
Check out my main thread for the samples and more info http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=29147

Tell me what you think, much love
omnis

Very good looking spice, indeed. Not the whitest I have seen, but certainly the mosty crystaline (if one can say that).
Thank you for sharing. I presume all the samples are gone by now, but hope to hear how it all goes here as well and may be GGA will alter the OP :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 25 June 2013, 23:28:50
@musichighlife, thank you for bringing in your experience and a great review - this is what this thread is about!
And +1 indeed for time and effort to share!

I will chime in for MultiExciter - had an amazing trip bordering on breakthrough, but finally I can bring some small glimpses of it back - not all the details, but bits and bobs, which for me is a massive win. I can go back to some of the visual dynamic sequences and remember some of the insights - truly amazing. I will probably be getting a refill from this vendor when I run out. From a lot of product I have tried this one and chemdog's sample were the cleanest.

Be good,
IM


Hey Incog!!  I am soo glad to hear that, I know you have been trying to bring something back for a while now!  It seems i can bring a lot more back from journeying with Changa instead of straight freebase.
Interesting...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 26 June 2013, 00:04:26
Mos def that was all about me. Shroom+alcohol=bad trip for me too. Once upon a time when I decided combine with cocaine I became an addict and literally live in my own personal hell.I have a great respect for brewers of the hops and the yeast but for me there is no turning back. DMT has even caused me to look at how I use psychedelics and weed and put some dicipline where it needed to be. I love that about it.

I actually frequently drink beer at the end of a shroom/LSD trip.  The alcohol doesn't really faze me, but I just enjoy the taste and the experience of drinking it.  I do know what you mean about DMT though.  When I first started smoking DMT, I was a complete pothead, smoking buds 2 or 3 times a day.  After my first couple of breakthroughs, I just sort of backed off until for the last few years, I have been using cannabis products 5--7 times per year.  Each time I do get stoned, I clean out with niacin ... not because I'm paranoid about a drug test, but because I can't stand to be dulled out for days afterward.  This is why alcohol is my usual choice of 'social drug' despite the fact that I prefer the cannabis high.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: omnis on 26 June 2013, 00:47:35
Thanks incogmagnito,
all samples are gone and will be sent out tomorrow, so there should be reviews appearing here in a few days about my changa blends and the crystals.
omnis
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 26 June 2013, 02:26:26
I'm really wanting to try DMT, but I've noticed that the prices here are quite high. Why is that, isnt the stuff particularly easy to make?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 26 June 2013, 02:52:23
I'm really wanting to try DMT, but I've noticed that the prices here are quite high. Why is that, isnt the stuff particularly easy to make?

Certainly compared to LSD and other lab-made chemicals it is.  However, most DMT is made by people in their homes without much specialised equipment.  A single batch takes weeks to complete and requires a significant amount of work.

If you read a page or two back, people were just whinging about the price of DMT.  I'm not defending or faulting any vendor for his or her prices ... but if the price is too high, you should buy elsewhere.  If you can't do that, you're a captive market and will have to accept the price vendors want to charge.  Unless you're willing to take your business elsewhere, vendors do not have any incentive to lower prices.  That said, there is a new vendor, Ringo Deathstarr, with one voucher so far who has prices which seem very reasonable.  Not having tried his product, that's all I can say atm.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 26 June 2013, 05:24:05
Will the sandwich method produce a breakthrough with 50mg? Or is that considered a non-efficient method
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 26 June 2013, 06:25:28
Will the sandwich method produce a breakthrough with 50mg? Or is that considered a non-efficient method

I trip very hard on 15--20mg vapourised.  This has been my usual dose since I started and I have 'broken through' almost every time.  Others have trouble achieving breakthrough and have to use higher doses and many trials before they get there.  The answer to your question has much more to do with you than with the amount of spice involved.  Although I've never used the 'sandwich method' personally, I understand that especially if it's your first try there's a good chance you'll burn up much of your DMT.  Better to vapourise if you can.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 26 June 2013, 07:07:06
Mos def that was all about me. Shroom+alcohol=bad trip for me too. Once upon a time when I decided combine with cocaine I became an addict and literally live in my own personal hell.I have a great respect for brewers of the hops and the yeast but for me there is no turning back. DMT has even caused me to look at how I use psychedelics and weed and put some dicipline where it needed to be. I love that about it.

I actually frequently drink beer at the end of a shroom/LSD trip.  The alcohol doesn't really faze me, but I just enjoy the taste and the experience of drinking it.  I do know what you mean about DMT though.  When I first started smoking DMT, I was a complete pothead, smoking buds 2 or 3 times a day.  After my first couple of breakthroughs, I just sort of backed off until for the last few years, I have been using cannabis products 5--7 times per year.  Each time I do get stoned, I clean out with niacin ... not because I'm paranoid about a drug test, but because I can't stand to be dulled out for days afterward.  This is why alcohol is my usual choice of 'social drug' despite the fact that I prefer the cannabis high.

Actually now that I think about it, the only bad trip I've ever had on shrooms was when I was drinking.  Like you, it barely even fazed me.  I just like the taste of it.  Especially Heineken.  It has a good earthy taste to compliment the shrooms.  After I started having a bad trip I wasn't tripping or drunk at all anymore.  I was just very, very negative and angry.  It sucked.  LSD really instilled me with some discipline.  It really pulled back the veil of society, and helped me differentiate what pressures I should, and shouldn't allow to affect my life. Very humbling.  It's why I love psychedelics as well.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 26 June 2013, 09:38:15
Will the sandwich method produce a breakthrough with 50mg? Or is that considered a non-efficient method

Why waste all that amount? If you learn to vaporize the DMT correctly it will take from 15 to 30 mg at most to "breakthrough" (at times I can do it even with 5-10 mg, DMT is very susceptible to changes within you). Vaporized correctly 50 mg would be a very high dose.

The sandwich method is surely very easy to adopt at beginning, but then by and by you discover how inefficient it is both for harshness and both for amount of DMT used (and in my personal opinion either the trip is somewhat different, just because it is impossible to not burn some of the DMT in the process).

Sadly after the test with Omnis' sample I will take a little break from DMT since I've used it too much in this last year without enough pauses in-between uses (and I do a break also because too hot temperatures are coming and I don't like very much to use DMT when it's too hot outside). It is breaking my heart to do so because every experience has been unique and wonderful, but now and then IME you need a break to fully integrate what you have learned so far. One needs also patience with these sacred substances, as with a lover.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: fractalglobal on 26 June 2013, 11:06:39
I'm really wanting to try DMT, but I've noticed that the prices here are quite high. Why is that, isnt the stuff particularly easy to make?
It's a matter of supply and demand I think, DMT isn't a very popular drug(at least in the same way coke, meth, weed etc are) and as a result, supply is fairly stunted.
If you live in Australia, its pretty stupid to buy DMT at all.  We have several native plants that contain the alkaloid in fairly decent amounts, not as much as in mimosa hostilis root bark, but easily enough to make it worth the day trip required to acquire it.
Extracting DMT is possibly the easiest chemistry related procedure for the uninitiated chemists.  An acid/base extraction is all that is required.(Or a Straight to base if you are lazy and impatient)  Any non-polar solvent can be used to extract the freebase, and no titration is required.  I've extracted more than a gram of DMT from bark using 2 beer bottles and a syringe in the back of a van at one point.

Sadly after the test with Omnis' sample I will take a little break from DMT since I've used it too much in this last year without enough pauses in-between uses (and I do a break also because too hot temperatures are coming and I don't like very much to use DMT when it's too hot outside). It is breaking my heart to do so because every experience has been unique and wonderful, but now and then IME you need a break to fully integrate what you have learned so far. One needs also patience with these sacred substances, as with a lover.

Whilst I have little tolerance for the shamanistic/philosophical diatribes often associated with the more powerful hallucinogens,(namely, DMT and salvia)  I agree wholeheartedly that you need to take a break every now and then.  Back in my teens, I had a huge supply of DMT that I had extracted from perhaps 15kg of a certain Acacia bark.  For perhaps a 3 month period, I would do 3 or 4 trips per day, just because I had nothing better to do.  By the end of it, every trip was a bad one, I stopped getting any visuals whatsoever, and I felt like I was going to die towards the end of the trip.  2 years later I tried out DMT again, unfortunately I still had the same problem.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 26 June 2013, 13:00:17
Back in my teens, I had a huge supply of DMT that I had extracted from perhaps 15kg of a certain Acacia bark.  For perhaps a 3 month period, I would do 3 or 4 trips per day, just because I had nothing better to do.  By the end of it, every trip was a bad one, I stopped getting any visuals whatsoever, and I felt like I was going to die towards the end of the trip.  2 years later I tried out DMT again, unfortunately I still had the same problem.

Does this happen only with DMT?
If that's so you much probably have a lingering block somewhere inside your unconscious that comes to the surface when you approach that particular substance. There are various motives why this can happen. If it is a thing tied to the string of bad trips one of the most probable causes is that during them you practically associated an hypnotic suggestion inside yourself that triggers the events everytime you reach that particular stage (i.e. the stage associated with the particular substance, DMT in this case). It's not that you did that consciously, it happened by itself by and by associating your emotional state of the time to the specific "place" your unconscious was at that moment (like a key with a safe). Everytime you continued having a bad trip you reinforced the suggestion till the point that it now it cannot be broken by time only, you would have to do something yourself to break it.

This is not the only possible cause but it is one that can happen easily if you continue to go on for too long while the experience continues to deteriorate instead of pausing or doing something actively to block the degeneration (that in almost all cases however includes a pause anyway). If this is the case there are solutions to it, one of the most easy is to use DMT in a completely different setup  than you are used to (different place, different modus operandi - for example if you used it smoked, drink it as in ayahuasca - different approach - for example if you used it recreationally use it shamanically instead or the contrary) and begin using very low doses at beginning and increasing them by and by until you come to the manifestation of the problem (by using lower doses you can approach the problem so you can interact with it; if you would start immediately with an higher one and the problem would immediately present itself chances are you will not be able to work with it). At that point you have to break the hypnotic suggestion by putting in its place a different one, and you can obtain this using the different set and setting you adopted.

If you want more specifics and you want to try this you can always contact me via PM. Why should you? Because it doesn't exist a bad trip without a great lesson to be learned from, no matter how much you can think the contrary at the moment. All it takes sometimes is just looking at the issue from a different angle.

Btw what it happened to you happens in the majority of cases. If you start using DMT (or whatever other psychedelic) for too much time without any pauses in between it will come a time that the trips will start degenerating more and more, till the final break. It is a sort of way the substance has to tell you to slow down and integrate better what's happening. If you don't heed the warning, however, you risk of breaking a wonderful relationship forever (or until you cannot cope with the problem). Sometimes just taking a long break resolve the issue by itself but in some others (as in yours) it doesn't happen by itself and you must understand what's the cause.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DxM on 26 June 2013, 16:07:06
So I am new to DMT and decided to order some of the mixed white and yellow. However I am still worried about consuming it. I once tried to smoke it at a friend house and the smoke was way too harsh to breathe in. They used a plastic bottle and foil. I am wondering if its always supposed to be that way and if there is a way to make the smoke lighter. Does it help using an electric vaporizer or something?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 26 June 2013, 19:44:48
Will the sandwich method produce a breakthrough with 50mg? Or is that considered a non-efficient method
  Although I've never used the 'sandwich method' personally, I understand that especially if it's your first try there's a good chance you'll burn up much of your DMT. 

this is indeed the problem. the first few times you sandwich it it is very hard. especially if you are using weed(eventually you will ignite the weed and can you imagine trying to hold in a hit of marijuana for 20 seconds?) you just have to treat it like its gold. do not touch the flame to it, take extremely slow deep breaths, hold in the hits for 15-20, etc.


for a first timer that is looking for a blast of without fail, i recommend making a machine (although ive never used one i do understand that when you vape dmt by itself PROPERLY, its extremely forgiving on the lungs so its not that hard to take fat rips of it)

ive always sandwiched it and ive always done fine (blasted off my first time, and my first blast was the most intense) but ive also had friends there that told me what to do the entire time.

whatever you do, just research it first. dont go into battle without the proper tools you know?

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 26 June 2013, 19:59:05
oh and i saw that omnis posted here so let me just say, omnis is very legit.

i am more than happy than vouching for him as he gave me one of the most enlightening experiences i have EVER had.

also, i can vouch for ringo as well.  his dmt seemed like it was of high quality and purity, and i thoroughly enjoyed my time with it!

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 26 June 2013, 20:24:14
I think I'm just gonna make "The Machine", seems simple enough.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: RaFaeL5 on 26 June 2013, 21:35:35
Did anyone try to take harmine/harmaline and then smoke DMT/changa...
if yes, could you enlighten me?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 26 June 2013, 22:28:41
Did anyone try to take harmine/harmaline and then smoke DMT/changa...
if yes, could you enlighten me?

Harmala alkaloids have a heavy sedative effect.  This is why pharmahuasca doesn't give 'up and about' trips like other oral psychedelics.  An MAOI will certainly make a smoked DMT experience last longer, but there is a trade-off as the harmala alkaloids also slow you down.  I wrote about my first such experiment here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=128241.msg890341#msg890341
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: RaFaeL5 on 26 June 2013, 22:44:50
Did anyone try to take harmine/harmaline and then smoke DMT/changa...
if yes, could you enlighten me?

Harmala alkaloids have a heavy sedative effect.  This is why pharmahuasca doesn't give 'up and about' trips like other oral psychedelics.  An MAOI will certainly make a smoked DMT experience last longer, but there is a trade-off as the harmala alkaloids also slow you down.  I wrote about my first such experiment here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=128241.msg890341#msg890341

Thank you very much GGA... I'm going right to that page!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 27 June 2013, 00:46:39
Any advice for a first timer planning on using "The Machine" to smoke DMT soon. I know not ot touch the flame to the product. Should I point the flame at the mesh, or towards the glass (like a meth pipe)?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: fractalglobal on 27 June 2013, 01:06:19
Did anyone try to take harmine/harmaline and then smoke DMT/changa...
if yes, could you enlighten me?

Harmala alkaloids have a heavy sedative effect.  This is why pharmahuasca doesn't give 'up and about' trips like other oral psychedelics.  An MAOI will certainly make a smoked DMT experience last longer, but there is a trade-off as the harmala alkaloids also slow you down.  I wrote about my first such experiment here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=128241.msg890341#msg890341
I've found DMT by itself knocks you on your ass.  Both due to the intensity of the halucinations, and the bone deep weariness you feel for a few minutes after the trip.  It's definitely not something you would want to do standing up.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 27 June 2013, 02:14:29
Excelent thread with good info.
I just ordered my dmt and this is going to be my first time.

I got an electric vaporizer and I wanted to ask you what is the optimal temperature to heat dmt in order to achieve maximum vaporization?

Thanks in advance

Adamiz
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 27 June 2013, 03:25:47
I've found DMT by itself knocks you on your ass.  Both due to the intensity of the halucinations, and the bone deep weariness you feel for a few minutes after the trip.  It's definitely not something you would want to do standing up.

Hmmm ... strange.  On DMT alone, I lie in bed for the first 10 or so minutes (because trying to walk or stand would simply not work during the immersive hallucinatory stage of the trip), but afterward I frequently get restless and have to get up and walk around.  I find DMT itself gives me energy in a very similar way to LSD and other psychedelics ... but on a pharma trip, the harmala alkaloids cancel this effect and produce not only lethargy, but a dull ache in my muscles.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: omnis on 27 June 2013, 05:47:22
Excelent thread with good info.
I just ordered my dmt and this is going to be my first time.

I got an electric vaporizer and I wanted to ask you what is the optimal temperature to heat dmt in order to achieve maximum vaporization?

Thanks in advance

Adamiz

DMT will vaporize good at a temperature of 100°C (boiling point ~82°C).
But even if you use a fairly small pipe you can observe the occasional condensation on the walls (e.g. glass vaporgenie).
Thats why you should avoid any long tubes or balloons on your vape in order to minimize condensation of crystals. (condensed crystals can have an amazing magical look though :) )

In my experience there are no advantages in using digital vaporizers for DMT. I read some reports claiming smoother vapor though..
with the non digital method it all come down to a little practice i guess.

love, omnis
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 27 June 2013, 07:22:41
Hey Incog!!  I am soo glad to hear that, I know you have been trying to bring something back for a while now!  It seems i can bring a lot more back from journeying with Changa instead of straight freebase.
Interesting...

Thank you! It is interesting what you say about changa - my only experience was not on breakthrough level but was very enjoyable, but harmala or orther part of the mix was active even in the morning - groggy, dumb - proper hangover. Not sure what they had in it, but now I look at changa with suspicion.

I actually frequently drink beer at the end of a shroom/LSD trip. 
....
Each time I do get stoned, I clean out with niacin ... not because I'm paranoid about a drug test, but because I can't stand to be dulled out for days afterward.

I do have beer craving on LSD trip exit - most weird since this is the only occasion in my life when I do! Very strange.

On weed - despite having some of the best collection of weird and wonderful weeds and hashes last time I smoked was about 4 months ago. I just find it not insightful and clean as acid or DMT. It also does have no "moving forward" feel to it. Interesting what you say about niacin - where do I get some in case I smoke, but need to be sharp in the morning?

For perhaps a 3 month period, I would do 3 or 4 trips per day, just because I had nothing better to do.  By the end of it, every trip was a bad one, I stopped getting any visuals whatsoever, and I felt like I was going to die towards the end of the trip.  2 years later I tried out DMT again, unfortunately I still had the same problem.


@fractalglobal, thank you for sharing this! +1
I am now reading a lot about MDMA and in that community there is a belief that quality of the "roll" deteriorates with the cumulative number of trips with people claiming that first 10 to 20 rolls being the best. Do we potentially have the same situation here?

Any advice for a first timer planning on using "The Machine" to smoke DMT soon. I know not ot touch the flame to the product. Should I point the flame at the mesh, or towards the glass (like a meth pipe)?

Mesh

Excelent thread with good info.
I just ordered my dmt and this is going to be my first time.

I got an electric vaporizer and I wanted to ask you what is the optimal temperature to heat dmt in order to achieve maximum vaporization?

Thanks in advance

Adamiz

DMT will vaporize good at a temperature of 100°C (boiling point ~82°C).
But even if you use a fairly small pipe you can observe the occasional condensation on the walls (e.g. glass vaporgenie).
Thats why you should avoid any long tubes or balloons on your vape in order to minimize condensation of crystals. (condensed crystals can have an amazing magical look though :) )

In my experience there are no advantages in using digital vaporizers for DMT. I read some reports claiming smoother vapor though..
with the non digital method it all come down to a little practice i guess.

love, omnis

@Adamiz, please see this thread few pages down - there was a user here who tried and complained a lot about digital glass vaporiser - DMT melting before vaping, condensation on the glass are just two things that spring to mind. I believe they decided to build the machine from the OP.

On the boiling point front I disagree with omnis - merck's data on DMT bp appears incorrect and even Shulgin was saying that molecule structure of DMT can not be boiling at temperatures below 100C. There is a post I brought here from some other forum where thru trial and error one person has established that DMTs boiling point should be somewhere around 160C and he was vaping it at 180C
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 27 June 2013, 11:22:32
Thanks for the replies guys.

Well to be honest I dont really trust this digital vaporizer, and so I ordered a glass oil pipe.
As you said it all comes down to practise

Adam
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 27 June 2013, 21:52:44
Interesting what you say about niacin - where do I get some in case I smoke, but need to be sharp in the morning?

Any vitamin shop.  It will cause your skin to flush (which is slightly uncomfortable) unless you get the 'no flush' variety.  It processes the cannabinoids out of your blood, which clears the lingering haze and so is indispensable to my continuing (albeit rare) cannabis usage.

Unrelatedly, I went on another pharma trip last night.  I had just converted my rough MHRB extract into fumarate salts.  In my previous trials, dosing the DMT caused an intense nausea which lasted for the first hour or more of the trip and was really quite upsetting.  This time, I had hardly any nausea whatever ... and with that gone, pharma really feels like the perfect drug.

While I had a very good trip, I'm a bit concerned.  I took 250mg of fumarate and had a trip which was significantly weaker than one I'd had on 200mg of the extract I started with (and with the same dose of MAOI).  Moreover, the conversion process cost me a good portion of my starting weight.  I dismissed this at first because I knew the extract wasn't pure freebase ... but if this line of reasoning were correct, what was left should be considerably stronger than it was before, certainly not weaker.  All of my research indicated that fumarate salts were equally potent with freebase for oral doses ... but this wasn't borne out by my experience last night.  It'd be a bummer if I just spent time, effort, and money to create a smaller amount of weaker stuff.  I will have to give it another shot before I draw any definitive conclusions.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 27 June 2013, 22:07:57
Interesting what you say about niacin - where do I get some in case I smoke, but need to be sharp in the morning?

Any vitamin shop.  It will cause your skin to flush (which is slightly uncomfortable) unless you get the 'no flush' variety.  It processes the cannabinoids out of your blood, which clears the lingering haze and so is indispensable to my continuing (albeit rare) cannabis usage.

Unrelatedly, I went on another pharma trip last night.  I had just converted my rough MHRB extract into fumarate salts.  In my previous trials, dosing the DMT caused an intense nausea which lasted for the first hour or more of the trip and was really quite upsetting.  This time, I had hardly any nausea whatever ... and with that gone, pharma really feels like the perfect drug.

While I had a very good trip, I'm a bit concerned.  I took 250mg of fumarate and had a trip which was significantly weaker than one I'd had on 200mg of the extract I started with (and with the same dose of MAOI).  Moreover, the conversion process cost me a good portion of my starting weight.  I dismissed this at first because I knew the extract wasn't pure freebase ... but if this line of reasoning were correct, what was left should be considerably stronger than it was before, certainly not weaker.  All of my research indicated that fumarate salts were equally potent with freebase for oral doses ... but this wasn't borne out by my experience last night.  It'd be a bummer if I just spent time, effort, and money to create a smaller amount of weaker stuff.  I will have to give it another shot before I draw any definitive conclusions.

Thank you. +1 ... will check it out. Does niacin only work with canabioids?

On fumerate - I am very keen to hear more as I am sitting on 600mg of fumerate from JoR and not sure what dose to take when I finally get to a decent setting!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 27 June 2013, 22:53:25
Thank you. +1 ... will check it out. Does niacin only work with canabioids?

On fumerate - I am very keen to hear more as I am sitting on 600mg of fumerate from JoR and not sure what dose to take when I finally get to a decent setting!

AFAIK, niacin is only good for cannabinoids.  There's certainly nothing you can take that will clear out any drug, as each family of drugs affects different receptors in the brain and thus has a different chemical structure.

The process I used to make the fumarate is supposed to be lossless ... and so if I'd started out with pure freebase, I should have ended up with an equal amount of pure DMT-fumarate.  According to what I've read, the fumarate dosage is exactly the same as the freebase dosage ... but of course everything depends on purity.  Assuming what you have to be pure, I'd judge that to be 4--6 trips worth of spice.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: fractalglobal on 28 June 2013, 09:25:08
No procedure involving a solvent of any kind will be "lossless."  Mechanical losses usually account for around 5% in a typical clandestine lab when done by a somewhat skilled chemist.  It'll be a lot higher for people who are following a recipe and using makeshift glassware/technical grade solvents.

I'm not sure about the exact ratio's for equivalent dosages of DMT fumarate compared to freebase, but it's certainly not 1:1.

N,N, DMT: 188.269 g/mol
Fumaric acid: 116.07 g/mol

so N,N, DMT Fumarate is approx 300 g/mol.  50mg of freebase is roughly equivalent to  67mg of DMT fumarate.  This is disregarding the resultant change in pharmacokinetics from salting.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ExperienceAll on 28 June 2013, 19:14:18
Does using a Volcano for vaping dmt make your Volcano taste like dmt even when just smoking weed afterwards?
Title: Omnis N-N-DMT sample REVIEW
Post by: BlackIris on 28 June 2013, 19:56:44
This is a review of the sample I received from Omnis.

SHIPPING:

Letter arrived very fast, stealth was nothing exceptional but more than acceptable for inside the EU. My wife mistakenly opened the letter but found nothing, so I suppose this is a proof that the stealth works fine.

PRODUCT:

The DMT (100mg) is in form of well defined crystals of a pale yellow tint, much lighter than what it can seem from the photo, they are almost off-white. On burning the crystals released a faint flowery aroma, sign of a clean extraction. For the report I used 20 mg vaporized using "The Machine", the method I always use and the one I prefer.

TRIP REPORT:

The come up was extremely gentle an euphoric, and a sense of sweet heat embraced all my body rising from the feet to the head.
From seemingly a distant space away a golden/silver/green/blue fractal serpent formed out in front of me.
I relaxed back and closed my eyes.
The body of the fractal serpent enfolded all my vision in rainbow-like-impressions and then showed in its head a Mayan-like-piramid
A symbol representing an ancient(?) world in it, having two Suns - one larger than the other.
Presently it enlarged and merged into other symbols, shattered and crystallized.
Countless alien cities flooded my vision, impossible geometries, gorgeous cathedrals, gigantic columns, gargantuan valleys.
Golden, silver, green and blue the predominant colors - the city merged in the tail of a colossal peacock of supreme beauty. I was awestruck.
I tried to reach the peacock to touch it but I was like ordered to not move.
Shining colors as fragments of stars on the foreground, pastel and morbid colors as drapes of silk in the background.
The eyes in the tail merge into other cities, one more incomprehensible than the other, one more seemingly infinite than the other.
The fractal serpent took me for a ride inside the tunnels in the cities, shards of memories I cannot recollect yet they left the impression I learned something precious.
The only thing I could do is to cry a silent thank inside myself.

The come down was soft and too soon. It seemed like an eternity yet it was passed in a glimpse of an eye (time is just a thought?).
A sense of overflowing relaxation and joy, mixed with the sadness for the return.
No pressure on my breath and chest for the return, I simply understand I have a body once more.

SUMMARY:

The sentence that comes to my mind to describe Omnis DMT is "gentle as a lover's caress". This is the impression that it has left inside me. You feel loved, embraced and cared for for all the duration of the trip. There was not a simple time I did felt anxiety or fear, only joy and awe.

It is not as transcendental and strong as Multi-Exciter or ChemDog's DMT are, its power resides on its calmness and emotional content. While ME's DMT feels like a strong teacher sending you in the middle of the ocean alone with a storm coming (and you better learn as fast as you can), Omnis' DMT feels like a parent you dearly love taking you for a boat trip in a calm sunny day. For this it can be the perfect introduction to the DMT world for a beginner, or the perfect DMT for someone that likes a gentle - yet extremely rewarding and emotionally intense - approach.

In a certain sense Omnis' DMT is one of the freebases most similar in effect to Changa (at last the original composition) that I ever tried. I think I couldn't desire a better "last trip" now that I'm going to pause a while from DMT to integrate fully this year of wonderful adventures. It was the most sweet kiss of farewell I ever received.

Thank you Omnis, and above all, thank you DMT - see you soon!.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ro-Jaws on 28 June 2013, 23:53:23
No procedure involving a solvent of any kind will be "lossless."  Mechanical losses usually account for around 5% in a typical clandestine lab when done by a somewhat skilled chemist.  It'll be a lot higher for people who are following a recipe and using makeshift glassware/technical grade solvents.

I'm not sure about the exact ratio's for equivalent dosages of DMT fumarate compared to freebase, but it's certainly not 1:1.

N,N, DMT: 188.269 g/mol
Fumaric acid: 116.07 g/mol

so N,N, DMT Fumarate is approx 300 g/mol.  50mg of freebase is roughly equivalent to  67mg of DMT fumarate.  This is disregarding the resultant change in pharmacokinetics from salting.

^ this.
I am by no means a skilled chemist but even with proper lab equipment my losses were well above this. Out of interest where did you get the 5% figure?

@GGA
If you used 250mg fumarate then that would be equivalent to only approx 155mg of freebase (apologies if that's way my conversion skills are rusty to say the least) which doesn't seem like a lot.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 29 June 2013, 01:09:03
No procedure involving a solvent of any kind will be "lossless."  Mechanical losses usually account for around 5% in a typical clandestine lab when done by a somewhat skilled chemist.  It'll be a lot higher for people who are following a recipe and using makeshift glassware/technical grade solvents.

I'm not sure about the exact ratio's for equivalent dosages of DMT fumarate compared to freebase, but it's certainly not 1:1.

N,N, DMT: 188.269 g/mol
Fumaric acid: 116.07 g/mol

so N,N, DMT Fumarate is approx 300 g/mol.  50mg of freebase is roughly equivalent to  67mg of DMT fumarate.  This is disregarding the resultant change in pharmacokinetics from salting.

^ this.
I am by no means a skilled chemist but even with proper lab equipment my losses were well above this. Out of interest where did you get the 5% figure?

@GGA
If you used 250mg fumarate then that would be equivalent to only approx 155mg of freebase (apologies if that's way my conversion skills are rusty to say the least) which doesn't seem like a lot.

@Ro-Jaws: 150mg of freebase, when adequately activated, gives a strong pharmahuasca trip indeed.  I started with extract that contained other alkaloids, so I don't for a moment believe the salts I obtained are pure DMT-fumarate.

@fractalglobal: Yes, you are right.  I was surprised to read the things that I did for precisely the reasons you gave.  However, even with mechanical ineffeciencies accounted for, the added 114 g/mol should have given me an end product that was heavier than my starting weight of freebase (not that I actually knew this).  What I in fact obtained was powder that looked exactly like what I started with (i.e., was the same colour and volumetrically the same quantity), but which weighs out to roughly 1/3 of my total starting weight.  This is in no way acceptable ... because I did smoke the rough extract before refining a portion of it, and there's absolutely no way that what I started with was as weak as all that.  I am still trying to recover some of what was lost from the remnants of the conversion process, but I did throw out the yellow-tinted acetone I was left with (which now feels like it was a bad idea, of course).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ro-Jaws on 29 June 2013, 01:32:53
Hmmm well if you started with a mix of alkaloids along with the DMT before salting then perhaps they have interacted with the fumarate. So the actual DMT level would be lower yet, maybe its a matter of the relative ratios of DMT to various alkaloids in your initial extraction that gave it such a kick.
In any case the alkaloid salts will likely be in freebase form as well so I guess you got a mixture of all the salts hence the color which will come from the impurities. But that doesn't explain the excessive loss of weight (out of interest, why did you measure the volume of the powder?). The acetone sounds like a prime suspect. Though I've never used it in extraction I do use it to clean out my pipe, where it turns brown/yellow and when evaporate leaves similarly discolored, slightly sticky crystals.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 29 June 2013, 01:47:08
out of interest, why did you measure the volume of the powder?

LOL.  I didn't, I'm just eye-balling it.  All I meant by that statement is that I ended up with stuff that LOOKS the same although there is this enormous weight discrepancy.  I did do a second bout ... adding more fumaraic acid to the left-over acetone to make sure all the DMT precipitated out.  I have used differences in water solubility to get most of the fumaric acid to settle out and when the water dries, we'll see what that gives ... but I doubt I'll get much that way.  I should have kept the acetone and let it evaporate off, but I didn't really want the fumes around.  Tant pis for me.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ro-Jaws on 29 June 2013, 02:41:08
Ah! I thought it was a little...odd :p I'm not sure that adding fumaric acid to acetone would salt out the DMT as acetone is a pretty polar solvent.

I evaporate the acetone in an petri dish next to the window (acetone is so volatile I can top up with more cleaning as it evaporates off) as with larger dishes I find the losses to be too big. But then I don't work with industrial amounts so its a little different.
Title: Re: Omnis N-N-DMT sample REVIEW
Post by: omnis on 29 June 2013, 04:39:52
This is a review of the sample I received from Omnis.

SHIPPING:

Letter arrived very fast, stealth was nothing exceptional but more than acceptable for inside the EU. My wife mistakenly opened the letter but found nothing, so I suppose this is a proof that the stealth works fine.

PRODUCT:

The DMT (100mg) is in form of well defined crystals of a pale yellow tint, much lighter than what it can seem from the photo, they are almost off-white. On burning the crystals released a faint flowery aroma, sign of a clean extraction. For the report I used 20 mg vaporized using "The Machine", the method I always use and the one I prefer.

TRIP REPORT:

The come up was extremely gentle an euphoric, and a sense of sweet heat embraced all my body rising from the feet to the head.
From seemingly a distant space away a golden/silver/green/blue fractal serpent formed out in front of me.
I relaxed back and closed my eyes.
The body of the fractal serpent enfolded all my vision in rainbow-like-impressions and then showed in its head a Mayan-like-piramid
A symbol representing an ancient(?) world in it, having two Suns - one larger than the other.
Presently it enlarged and merged into other symbols, shattered and crystallized.
Countless alien cities flooded my vision, impossible geometries, gorgeous cathedrals, gigantic columns, gargantuan valleys.
Golden, silver, green and blue the predominant colors - the city merged in the tail of a colossal peacock of supreme beauty. I was awestruck.
I tried to reach the peacock to touch it but I was like ordered to not move.
Shining colors as fragments of stars on the foreground, pastel and morbid colors as drapes of silk in the background.
The eyes in the tail merge into other cities, one more incomprehensible than the other, one more seemingly infinite than the other.
The fractal serpent took me for a ride inside the tunnels in the cities, shards of memories I cannot recollect yet they left the impression I learned something precious.
The only thing I could do is to cry a silent thank inside myself.

The come down was soft and too soon. It seemed like an eternity yet it was passed in a glimpse of an eye (time is just a thought?).
A sense of overflowing relaxation and joy, mixed with the sadness for the return.
No pressure on my breath and chest for the return, I simply understand I have a body once more.

SUMMARY:

The sentence that comes to my mind to describe Omnis DMT is "gentle as a lover's caress". This is the impression that it has left inside me. You feel loved, embraced and cared for for all the duration of the trip. There was not a simple time I did felt anxiety or fear, only joy and awe.

It is not as transcendental and strong as Multi-Exciter or ChemDog's DMT are, its power resides on its calmness and emotional content. While ME's DMT feels like a strong teacher sending you in the middle of the ocean alone with a storm coming (and you better learn as fast as you can), Omnis' DMT feels like a parent you dearly love taking you for a boat trip in a calm sunny day. For this it can be the perfect introduction to the DMT world for a beginner, or the perfect DMT for someone that likes a gentle - yet extremely rewarding and emotionally intense - approach.

In a certain sense Omnis' DMT is one of the freebases most similar in effect to Changa (at last the original composition) that I ever tried. I think I couldn't desire a better "last trip" now that I'm going to pause a while from DMT to integrate fully this year of wonderful adventures. It was the most sweet kiss of farewell I ever received.

Thank you Omnis, and above all, thank you DMT - see you soon!.


thank you for your lightning fast review!
The description of the visuals is wonderful and complex - a good indicator for the detailed optical qualities and very characteristic for dmt.
I hope you will have a nice pause and you can adopt a lot of the joy and love from your boat trip (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Again - thank you from my heart,
omnis
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 29 June 2013, 08:02:39
Just posted a new trip report here
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=166774.0
LOVE TO THE IGBoD ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 29 June 2013, 11:48:42
Just posted a new trip report here
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=166775.0
LOVE TO THE IGBoD ;D

Nice one! Cataloguing machine elves ... LOL! +1
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=166774.0
btw, I found your report in this thread - the one you posted is above is a voting thread :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 29 June 2013, 17:09:54
LOL.  I didn't, I'm just eye-balling it.  All I meant by that statement is that I ended up with stuff that LOOKS the same although there is this enormous weight discrepancy.  I did do a second bout ... adding more fumaraic acid to the left-over acetone to make sure all the DMT precipitated out.  I have used differences in water solubility to get most of the fumaric acid to settle out and when the water dries, we'll see what that gives ... but I doubt I'll get much that way.  I should have kept the acetone and let it evaporate off, but I didn't really want the fumes around.  Tant pis for me.
My guess is that you didn't use anhydrous acetone. DMT fumarate is soluble in water, so if the acetone had any water in it, that's where all the DMT went! Drying acetone with anhydrous magnesium sulphate is not fool proof either. Also, before doing the conversion, you should have recrystallised the freebase; if you had done that, you would at least know exactly how much DMT you lost during the conversion.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 29 June 2013, 17:33:56
@fractalglobal, thank you for sharing this! +1
I am now reading a lot about MDMA and in that community there is a belief that quality of the "roll" deteriorates with the cumulative number of trips with people claiming that first 10 to 20 rolls being the best. Do we potentially have the same situation here?
I completely agree with this. It has to do with pharmacology, not psychology. The unconscious has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 29 June 2013, 18:06:05
@fractalglobal, thank you for sharing this! +1
I am now reading a lot about MDMA and in that community there is a belief that quality of the "roll" deteriorates with the cumulative number of trips with people claiming that first 10 to 20 rolls being the best. Do we potentially have the same situation here?
I completely agree with this. It has to do with pharmacology, not psychology. The unconscious has nothing to do with it.
could you please elaborate on pharmacology of this process? I am also not certain what you mean by " The unconscious has nothing to do with it."
Thank you!!!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 29 June 2013, 18:38:21
I completely agree with this. It has to do with pharmacology, not psychology. The unconscious has nothing to do with it.

In general? Sure, in some cases the unconscious has nothing to do with it and it's just a case of pharmacology, in some others (as a bad trip the 2nd time you use a substance after a lapse of many months) it's just about the unconscious and in the case in question (the one we were talking about) it has to do with both.

Surely pharmacology has greatly to do with trip deterioration (by and by with constant use the experiences will deteriorate by itself for the pharmacology alone) but when you experience a bad trip (and especially a string of bad trips) the unconscious plays a huge factor both in the modus operandi and both in the recovery process.
A bad trip can be started from a deterioration having to do with pharmacology but when you are there the crisis turns into a fully psychological one. There's a difference between a psychedelic crisis (bad trip) and a simple trip deterioration for too constant use (the latter can bring to the former but it is not the only cause at work).
A bad trip can take years to recover from and the trouble many times goes on for a while (how much it depends on the severity of the crisis) also when you are sober. In certain cases the trouble when using the substance will never go away (neither in 2.000 years) if you don't do something particular to remove it (and that trouble has nothing to do with pharmacology).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 29 June 2013, 19:29:03
hey guys, can someone please post pics of a simple machine, and how to make it... or if there is an easier way to vaporize it, please let me know.  I just got some, and dont want to waste anymore by sandwich method.  please help me blastoff!!!  8)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 29 June 2013, 19:37:50
My guess is that you didn't use anhydrous acetone. DMT fumarate is soluble in water, so if the acetone had any water in it, that's where all the DMT went! Drying acetone with anhydrous magnesium sulphate is not fool proof either. Also, before doing the conversion, you should have recrystallised the freebase; if you had done that, you would at least know exactly how much DMT you lost during the conversion.

This is the conclusion I have reached.  I did dry out the acetone with MgSO4 .... and I'm really not sure what I did wrong, but if the DMT stayed in the acetone, it must not have been completely anhydrous.  Kicking myself for dumping that acetone now ... but what can you do?  I still don't really see the point of doing a recryst before converting into salts ... not worth the extra work to have that much more precise a notion of exactly how angry I should be with myself. -_o
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: fractalglobal on 30 June 2013, 03:53:46
MgSO4,  whilst a decent enough drying agent, will not completely remove water from acetone. If you want to get as close to anhydrous as possible, look at drying over H2SO4 or getting some 4a molecular sieves.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 01 July 2013, 01:46:13
could you please elaborate on pharmacology of this process? I am also not certain what you mean by " The unconscious has nothing to do with it."
Thank you!!!
The guy had 360 trips in 3 months. Is it a surprise then that he doesn't get any visuals anymore, even after 2 years? It's obvious why! Re the unconscious: it's a pity you can't read BlackIris's posts.

hey guys, can someone please post pics of a simple machine, and how to make it... or if there is an easier way to vaporize it, please let me know.  I just got some, and dont want to waste anymore by sandwich method.  please help me blastoff!!!  8)
I can sell you one. 0.24 BTC.

Who wants to try my DMT? I have put up a 50mg listing. 0.12 BTC. http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/1884eede7c
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: fractalglobal on 01 July 2013, 05:22:41
could you please elaborate on pharmacology of this process? I am also not certain what you mean by " The unconscious has nothing to do with it."
Thank you!!!
The guy had 360 trips in 3 months. Is it a surprise then that he doesn't get any visuals anymore, even after 2 years? It's obvious why! Re the unconscious: it's a pity you can't read BlackIris's posts.

Holy shit I've never bothered to figure out how many trips I've done total.  Just realizing that I consumed over 18g of DMT in that period alone :o

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 01 July 2013, 06:06:24
Just posted a new trip report here
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=166775.0
LOVE TO THE IGBoD ;D

Nice one! Cataloguing machine elves ... LOL! +1
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=166774.0
btw, I found your report in this thread - the one you posted is above is a voting thread :)

Thx - I wasn't quite landed when I made that post ;) Fixed the link.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 01 July 2013, 10:37:06
The guy had 360 trips in 3 months. Is it a surprise then that he doesn't get any visuals anymore, even after 2 years? It's obvious why! Re the unconscious: it's a pity you can't read BlackIris's posts.

So you really think that a drug as DMT can be pharmacological active after 2 years? Even pretending that the great use lowered drastically levels of MAO (that's not yet proven, but there are theories about it), those return to baseline (i.e. COMPLETELY NORMAL) after about two weeks. It doesn't matter if he used DMT 360 or 100 times in 3 months, DMT goes away from the body in about 6 days and levels of MAO return to normal after 2 weeks (so in total in about a month, pharmacologically speaking, you should be perfectly alright for what it concerns DMT)

I'm sorry but what you say makes absolutely no sense, and it is not corroborated by any scientific data (or can you find me some? I would gladly admit you are correct if you can and I will either thank you for letting me know something I missed). It's easy to make frivolous irony when you never expose yourself, isn't it?

Btw I would bet as much as you want that when he says he "doesn't get any visuals" it is just an incorrect assumption because in fact he gets them (in a different way). He only think he doesn't get them because his attention is directed on his physical body (for the fear of dying) and so the visuals take a different quality (tied with the physical body). Didn't you notice the fact that he think he is dying everytime he uses DMT now? Do you think this also is caused by pharmacology? A SPECIFIC anxiety reaction caused by pharmacology? Poor Stanislav Grof, he was an obvious imbecile to think psychology had a primary role on it instead.

If for example in the beginning of the trip you get fear about dying because you feel your heart rate jumps to too fast levels, your full attention will focus to the physical body and you will have seemingly no visuals, but in reality you are having them: if you recollect the thing after, from memory, you will have a scene in your mind of what happened, as if you were looking at it from outside (and the scene will also be distorted, as having a scene of a much more intense heartbeat, or a distorted image of the physical body etc. that's the DMT effect). Those are visuals, and enhanced/created by DMT. It's only that when you talk about "visuals" people always associate the eyes with them (either if people understand they are not generated in the eyes, they look at them from a "place" situated behind the eyes), and if they aren't they assume they aren't getting "visuals" even if they are.

Everytime you think about your body (and so your consciousness focus on it) you create a VISUAL image of your body, only that you don't understand it while it happens, but only when you remember it. Those are called kinesthetic visualizations, but they are visual in the same, exact, way. How do you think you can have a kinesthetic *image* (look at the word) of your body? That's done by visualization and it is a *visual image* in the same exact way as looking at a fractal behind your closed eyelids is.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 01 July 2013, 11:54:55
He only think he doesn't get them because his attention is directed on his physical body (for the fear of dying) and so the visuals take a different quality (tied with the physical body). Didn't you notice the fact that he think he is dying everytime he uses DMT now?

I have to say, the comment you are referring to confused me when I read it.  He had a bad trip where he 'felt like he was going to die'.  I have died nearly every time I ever smoked DMT.  For a while, I had an ego death every time I used any drug of any kind.  Since my big pharma trip of about a month ago, I have not had any ego deaths, and my DMT experiences have become merely dream travel excursions.  I can visit the same places without the morphology of the drug effects via meditation or dreaming, and the last couple of times I have pushed off, the DMT has filled me with the sense that it is sheer laziness on my part to be using the drug at all.  I hope that this can be solved with a break (and further self-powered dream travel) ... because to give up DMT entirely would be like losing an old, dear friend.

I guess I hijacked what you were saying to talk about my own experience ... but I'm really not sure what it means for fractalglobal to say he felt like he was dying, unless he was simply broaching ego death for the first time and got frightened.  In this case, he ought to pursue that experience further and face up to it rather than shirking away and hiding from it.  If it means something else, I think some details are in order if we're going to continue this discussion productively.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 01 July 2013, 13:16:35
I guess I hijacked what you were saying to talk about my own experience ... but I'm really not sure what it means for fractalglobal to say he felt like he was dying, unless he was simply broaching ego death for the first time and got frightened.  In this case, he ought to pursue that experience further and face up to it rather than shirking away and hiding from it. 

I guess he means that he feels like he is about to die in a full physical sense (very fast heart-beat, respiratory difficulties as apnea or similar things) , that's certainly tied to ego-death (it can either have started that way) but now it is fully focused on the physical to the point that he cannot find a way to break the loop. The problem of this reaction is that if you don't resolve it the future trips will always have that connotation because immediately after you use the substance your focus goes completely towards your physical body and every sensation further improves upon the anxiety: you expect it to happen, it happens, it increases the sensation, you freak out for it, your freaking-out increases the sensation even more and so on and so forth.

In this case, he ought to pursue that experience further and face up to it rather than shirking away and hiding from it.

That's what I was saying. Thinking that the problem is just pharmacological is the best way to never resolve the issue. The only way to recover from the issue is actively. Actually if the problem is what I suppose (as in above) it's very easy to remove it, much easier than many other specific anxiety reactions can be to remove (for example an anxiety reaction of going insane can be much more troublesome to remove fully, depending on how profound or elaborate it has become).

If it means something else, I think some details are in order if we're going to continue this discussion productively.

There could be many subtle differences on the "feeling of dying" (from the more purely physical to the in-large-part-mental), but in any case it is a matter pertaining to psychology and not pharmacology. Pharmacology can surely create a *general* state of anxiety that can lead to a *specific* state, but not create a specific reaction by itself.

There are two ways into which a psychedelic crisis can happen:
1) anxious thought (general) leads to anxiety (specific) which leads to the impulse to freak out.
2) anxiety (general) leads to anxious thought (specific) which leads to the impulse to freak out.

In both cases going from a general anxiety reaction to a specific one is a matter of psychology, as something in your unconscious elaborating the general state and turning it into specific, it doesn't come by itself.

Since my big pharma trip of about a month ago, I have not had any ego deaths, and my DMT experiences have become merely dream travel excursions.  I can visit the same places without the morphology of the drug effects via meditation or dreaming, and the last couple of times I have pushed off, the DMT has filled me with the sense that it is sheer laziness on my part to be using the drug at all.  I hope that this can be solved with a break (and further self-powered dream travel) ... because to give up DMT entirely would be like losing an old, dear friend.

For this thing you think exactly as I, and others as Gracie & Zarkov, do - e.g. that you really didn't experience a DMT trip if you didn't feel you are dying. It's sort of paramount to have a full DMT experience since it should be more a NDE than an OBE. If there's not the feeling of "dying" you are not passing in the etheric body (hence the "dweller of the threshold" effect, because you are sort of switching in the primary fuel of energy of the body, the so-called nephesh).

But in your case don't worry, you just need a pause and everything will return to normal. You cannot produce that lapse (from the astral to the etheric) too many times in normal circumstances, your energy levels depletes after a while (there are ways to increment them, as working on the chakras etc.) and so you have to recharge them.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 01 July 2013, 21:16:41
could you please elaborate on pharmacology of this process? I am also not certain what you mean by " The unconscious has nothing to do with it."
Thank you!!!
The guy had 360 trips in 3 months. Is it a surprise then that he doesn't get any visuals anymore, even after 2 years? It's obvious why! Re the unconscious: it's a pity you can't read BlackIris's posts.

Holy shit I've never bothered to figure out how many trips I've done total.  Just realizing that I consumed over 18g of DMT in that period alone :o


@fractalglobal, curious to hear what has actually happened or we can theorise here about your experience until ... Nichols reveals his 10x more potent than LSD psychedelics ... Side note - do you think he will publish his findings some day as Shulgin did?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 02 July 2013, 04:11:47
I tried DMT tonight, twice. I couldn't manage to even get visuals. I did however get a really sore throat and a horrid taste in my mouth. I think I burnt my DMT
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 02 July 2013, 05:27:42
I am so sorry to hear that friend.... do you have access to a volcano?

There are some methods here that describe how to make a machine, or purchase a GVG... remember you never wanna touch the flame to the DMT!

Good luck with your travels...

Oh and i only smoke RogerPetes DMT
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 02 July 2013, 06:11:51
I tried DMT tonight, twice. I couldn't manage to even get visuals. I did however get a really sore throat and a horrid taste in my mouth. I think I burnt my DMT

Get some mullein tea for your lungs and dig "the machine" build and use instructions in the OP of this thread. It happened to me once. Not fun. 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 02 July 2013, 17:03:11
Quote
There are some methods here that describe how to make a machine, or purchase a GVG... remember you never wanna touch the flame to the DMT!
I AM using a machine.
I did this with 4 other people. I operated the machine for all of them and they said they got nice smooth hits, no sore throat and a great trip, one got a breakthrough

I however cannot seem to operate the machine properly when using it for myself though, not sure why. I think I may have rushed melting the DMT onto the copper wool and burnt it a bit, that could account for my issues
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 02 July 2013, 19:35:55
Quote
There are some methods here that describe how to make a machine, or purchase a GVG... remember you never wanna touch the flame to the DMT!
I AM using a machine.
I did this with 4 other people. I operated the machine for all of them and they said they got nice smooth hits, no sore throat and a great trip, one got a breakthrough

I however cannot seem to operate the machine properly when using it for myself though, not sure why. I think I may have rushed melting the DMT onto the copper wool and burnt it a bit, that could account for my issues

When I started I was so anxious that I was inhaling too fast while keeping my lighter too close to mesh ... It was not as drastic as yours, but it did burn my lips a bit and the smell was awful ... if you managed to do it for other people you will for sure master it shortly yourself. the key for me was to breathe and relax before to make sure I operate it all well :) may the spice be with you!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 02 July 2013, 20:51:24
I found that for me the smoke was very harsh and made me want to cough more than anything, it was hard to breath and I felt a VERY strong urge to breath in air. I've never had this issue when smoking other substances, like weed or cigarettes (though I don't smoke either of these often). Everyone else said that they thought the smoke was very easy to breath and light, however they are all weed and cigarettes smokers.

Is the smoke really that harsh and difficult to work with, or is that just a result of my fuckin' up on the vaporization part?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 02 July 2013, 22:00:02
If you burn the DMT the smoke will be a lot more harsh (you will much likely cough in that case, yes). It also depends on which method you use to vaporize. For example with a light-bulb or crack pipe the smoke is much more "burning plastic-like" etc.

What method are you using to vaporize the spice?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 02 July 2013, 22:22:16
I found that for me the smoke was very harsh and made me want to cough more than anything, it was hard to breath and I felt a VERY strong urge to breath in air. I've never had this issue when smoking other substances, like weed or cigarettes (though I don't smoke either of these often). Everyone else said that they thought the smoke was very easy to breath and light, however they are all weed and cigarettes smokers.

Is the smoke really that harsh and difficult to work with, or is that just a result of my fuckin' up on the vaporization part?

did you burn the steel wool/copper red hot before using it?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 02 July 2013, 23:01:32
I found that for me the smoke was very harsh and made me want to cough more than anything, it was hard to breath and I felt a VERY strong urge to breath in air. I've never had this issue when smoking other substances, like weed or cigarettes (though I don't smoke either of these often). Everyone else said that they thought the smoke was very easy to breath and light, however they are all weed and cigarettes smokers.

Is the smoke really that harsh and difficult to work with, or is that just a result of my fuckin' up on the vaporization part?

did you burn the steel wool/copper red hot before using it?

this is a very good point by wavelength ... +1.

I personally prefer to use stainless steel too as it seems to vape better for me and does not burn as fast copper used to.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 03 July 2013, 00:43:56
Is the smoke really that harsh and difficult to work with, or is that just a result of my fuckin' up on the vaporization part?

It really shouldn't be harsh.  Freebase is alkaline and has a very sort of artificial flavour, and so it takes some getting used to ... but the effects you're describing are really only because you burnt it.  For me, DMT vapour is very cool and buzzy and much easier on the lungs than any kind of smoke.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ExperienceAll on 03 July 2013, 03:44:06
I am buying a Volcano soon and I was wondering if I vape DMT in it if it will make everything I vape after that taste like DMT?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 03 July 2013, 05:18:10
I am buying a Volcano soon and I was wondering if I vape DMT in it if it will make everything I vape after that taste like DMT?

I don't have a volcano, but this is the logic of the situation.  Pure freebase vapourises completely.  The lower the purity of your spice, the more residue you will end up with that could have this effect.  However, if you simply clean your vape and/or bags in between uses, this should not be a problem.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 03 July 2013, 05:27:09
I'm using the machine with copper wool. I put the DMT on the wool and fan a flame over it to liquidize it, stopping if I see any wisp of smoke come off of it. After that I hold it 90 degrees (flat) and point the flame of a butane torch directly at it without touching the flame to the wool. If the wool ever turns red I tend to pull the flame away and see if it stops.

Should the wool be red hot?
Should I be heating the bottle neck and not fanning a lighter over the DMT crystals?

How EXACTLY do you use the machine effectively?
There are a lot of guides to building one but very little info online about suing it
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 03 July 2013, 05:34:14
Watch as the prices fall!!!!!!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 03 July 2013, 06:47:29
I'm using the machine with copper wool. I put the DMT on the wool and fan a flame over it to liquidize it, stopping if I see any wisp of smoke come off of it. After that I hold it 90 degrees (flat) and point the flame of a butane torch directly at it without touching the flame to the wool. If the wool ever turns red I tend to pull the flame away and see if it stops.

Should the wool be red hot?
Should I be heating the bottle neck and not fanning a lighter over the DMT crystals?

How EXACTLY do you use the machine effectively?
There are a lot of guides to building one but very little info online about suing it

There are plenty of approaches, but I simply lie down, take my machine, point torch light at the mesh and fire it up from about 2 inches while inhaling slowly. If I feel that smoke is getting hotter I simply move torch a bit further. I do not believe that mesh while you vaping should be turning red hot (I was referring to making it red to cleaning phase of creating the machine - also if you have not done it then the first person to ever use it would have had some horrible tasting crap going down their throat on the first ever go).

I hold smoke for about 10 seconds and then repeat.

Normally I never able to do more than two tokes.

How does this sound?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 03 July 2013, 09:01:35
I'm using the machine with copper wool. I put the DMT on the wool and fan a flame over it to liquidize it, stopping if I see any wisp of smoke come off of it. After that I hold it 90 degrees (flat) and point the flame of a butane torch directly at it without touching the flame to the wool. If the wool ever turns red I tend to pull the flame away and see if it stops.

Use a normal lighter. Butane torch is too concentrated and hot if you are inexperienced, especially for copper pads (that are more sensitive; copper is the more "professional" type of plug - so to speak - given the high sensitivity to heat, but it can also be anyway a question of personal taste). For copper you need much less heat overall than with stainless steel. If you have stainless steel you can touch the brillo directly with a flame, with a copper brillo the flame should not touch the brillo because usually the copper pads have a thinner mesh and copper transfers heat much faster than steel.

Should the wool be red hot?

That's only to remove the impurities at beginning. Did you do that, right? Elsewhere the "harsh smoke" you describe is actually the oils used to sharp the brillo.

Should I be heating the bottle neck and not fanning a lighter over the DMT crystals?

That's only for when you charge the brillo with DMT. Some people prefer to heat the neck of the bottle because it has less chance to burn the DMT for an error.

How EXACTLY do you use the machine effectively?

There is not an unique way. The only thing that you have to take in consideration is the type of brillo mesh you have (as to apply more or less heat to the plug) and to do a steady and long toke. The rest is quite straightforward and can be adapted both to circumstances and personal preferences. I begin to doubt that you didn't torch the copper mesh properly at beginning (as others have said) and for this you had all that harsh smoke, but if this is the case it has nothing to do with DMT smoke.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 03 July 2013, 10:15:26
I personally prefer to use stainless steel too as it seems to vape better for me and does not burn as fast copper used to.

Stainless steel is easier to use, that's true, because it has a much higher leeway on the heat applied directly, but with a copper brillo there's all another level of control on the vaporization. It just take a little more sensitivity on its use, but after you become good at it given the much increased heat transfer all around the vaporization of DMT is more uniform and complete. When you are good with a copper mesh you can obtain very very thin vapor, almost cold, as if you had used water.

But yes, before you understand how to use copper brillo properly (and especially if you are used to stainless steel) you risk of burning DMT.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 03 July 2013, 13:33:27
Watch as the prices fall!!!!!!

I tried to buy DMT for the first time about a month ago and it didn't work out so I got discouraged and just kind of forgot about all the DMT stuff for a while.  I came back last night, saw this message from you and ordered immediately.  Thank you!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Asal88 on 03 July 2013, 14:45:09
subbed :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 03 July 2013, 16:46:20
Regarding use of the machine...

..I've read that the DMT will vaporize into the bottle because it vaporizes away from the heat.  My question is: if you're heating the glass neck will the DMT still vaporize into the bottle?  I had thought that heating the glass next was simple how the machine was used but now I'm seeing that some of you are applying the heat outside the opening of the neck.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: fractalglobal on 03 July 2013, 17:21:35
I've never made/used a "machine" before, but I get the idea of it.  It seems to me that steel/copper wool ala brillo's would be no where near as effective as using one of the smaller copper heatsink from a computer or similar.  I just think between inexperienced burning(holding flame too close, heating copper/steel too much) and the remaining DMT from a hit not being easily recoverable, it wouldn't be as efficient as a lightbulb unless done by someone quite experienced with it. 

Less than a minute after typing that, I read this(Clearnet link):
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=8985
looks like I'm not the entrepreneurial genius I thought I was.  :(
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 03 July 2013, 17:41:16
Let me try to explain to you the point of the brillo and why it is so good (it is not just the heat transfer the point, it is also the type of structure o the brillo that's important).

DMT, when melted, becomes an oil that tends to "run away" from an heat source. The Brillo is fantastic on this point because it actually take this "disadvantage" (as it can be on an usual crack pipe/lightbulb) and turns it into a strong point, since the oil will try to run away from the heat and in so doing - given the heat transfer capability of the metal + the oil spreading thinly in all the intermingled lines + air circling inside - it will fully vaporize instead of being burned (the heat will not be so strong there as to burn the oil, but it will be enough for the oil to stop and vaporize).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 03 July 2013, 17:53:42
..I've read that the DMT will vaporize into the bottle because it vaporizes away from the heat.  My question is: if you're heating the glass neck will the DMT still vaporize into the bottle?  I had thought that heating the glass next was simple how the machine was used but now I'm seeing that some of you are applying the heat outside the opening of the neck.

The brillo is there appositely to receive the melted DMT. The melted DMT doesn't go in the bottle, it stays inside the brillo; the way the lines in the brillo are made etc. doesn't enable the oil to drop to the bottle

The only way it can theoretically happen is if you have a very very short plug and the DMT used is a lot so that the oil will have not enough room to condense and it will drop, or if the brillo is too packed up as that when you melt the DMT it doesn't go correctly inside and collects a little to the sides of the bottle's neck. Both things are however very easy to prevent and sincerely I've seen something like that to happen in very seldom cases.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 03 July 2013, 18:32:04
Yes, I DID torch the brillo before putting it into the bottle, I used a map torch and it eventually turned a greyish color from overheating
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 03 July 2013, 19:21:32
Well, then you just overheated the DMT, with a copper brillo it is (much) more easy to happen. Use a normal lighter next time and go a little softer and you will be fine.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 04 July 2013, 06:39:35
..I've read that the DMT will vaporize into the bottle because it vaporizes away from the heat.  My question is: if you're heating the glass neck will the DMT still vaporize into the bottle?  I had thought that heating the glass next was simple how the machine was used but now I'm seeing that some of you are applying the heat outside the opening of the neck.

The brillo is there appositely to receive the melted DMT. The melted DMT doesn't go in the bottle, it stays inside the brillo; the way the lines in the brillo are made etc. doesn't enable the oil to drop to the bottle

The only way it can theoretically happen is if you have a very very short plug and the DMT used is a lot so that the oil will have not enough room to condense and it will drop, or if the brillo is too packed up as that when you melt the DMT it doesn't go correctly inside and collects a little to the sides of the bottle's neck. Both things are however very easy to prevent and sincerely I've seen something like that to happen in very seldom cases.

I guess I was wondering about not when melting the DMT into an oil into the brillo but rather when vaporizing the DMT out of the brillo.  It goes into the larger part of the bottle and then we inhale that through the straw, right?  I guess I just need to hold the flame more towards the tip of the bottle to ensure that the DMT vaporizes in the direction of the bottle rather than the direction out of the bottle.

Anyway, thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 04 July 2013, 11:20:14
I don't understand too well of what you are talking about sincerely.

You heat the brillo (not the glass) directly and as you do you toke from the hole (or the straw put into the hole). The vapor gets sucked in the bottle by the toke (so it has no chance to escape outside from the neck).

You don't wait for the vapor to fill the bottle before you toke, you begin to toke immediately as soon as you apply heat (someone advice to wait 1-2 seconds before toking, but it's not that you are waiting a minute for the DMT to produce vapor as it happens as in a light-bulb vap for example).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 04 July 2013, 13:25:58

You heat the brillo (not the glass) directly and as you do you toke from the hole (or the straw put into the hole). The vapor gets sucked in the bottle by the toke (so it has no chance to escape outside from the neck).


Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but don't some people heat the glass?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 04 July 2013, 16:35:37

You heat the brillo (not the glass) directly and as you do you toke from the hole (or the straw put into the hole). The vapor gets sucked in the bottle by the toke (so it has no chance to escape outside from the neck).


Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but don't some people heat the glass?

Not as far as I know ...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bandeto962 on 04 July 2013, 17:25:40
Anyone ever tried LSD + DMT? I ate a tab of acid the other day and during the peak I smoked a bowl of DMT. Not enough to break through, but they were some incredible CEV and a crazy headspace.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 04 July 2013, 18:04:56
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but don't some people heat the glass?

If you would heat the glass with the intensity needed to vaporize the DMT correctly inside the brillo you would break a bottle every 2-3 uses. Normal glass cannot stand a flame directly for too long, especially from a torch lighter.  Heating just to melt the DMT is different, but there are some people that anyway had to change the bottle because with a torch lighter they misjudged and heated the glass too much for too many times while doing it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 05 July 2013, 20:47:23
Thanks guys glad I got that minor detail corrected in my head.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: smegheadrimmer on 05 July 2013, 22:42:51
FUUU so now ringodeathstar either ran out or took his listings down. I can't blame him if it's the latter,don't want to be bitching in one of the few drama free, true brotherhood threads on here. But fuck this has been happening all over now that i have coins.fuck fuck fuck.lol



FUCK haha
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: alpacabowl27 on 06 July 2013, 00:48:54
FUUU so now ringodeathstar either ran out or took his listings down. I can't blame him if it's the latter,don't want to be bitching in one of the few drama free, true brotherhood threads on here. But fuck this has been happening all over now that i have coins.fuck fuck fuck.lol



FUCK haha

I feel your pain! I remember it took around 5 days after i got the coin to actually making an order. But for a dude like Ringo it's definitely worth the wait my brother!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 06 July 2013, 02:20:50
Snatched up the last 1g listing from RingoDeathstarr, hopefully I'll be able to breakthough this time.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 06 July 2013, 06:43:12
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but don't some people heat the glass?

If you would heat the glass with the intensity needed to vaporize the DMT correctly inside the brillo you would break a bottle every 2-3 uses. Normal glass cannot stand a flame directly for too long, especially from a torch lighter.  Heating just to melt the DMT is different, but there are some people that anyway had to change the bottle because with a torch lighter they misjudged and heated the glass too much for too many times while doing it.

Man I just use a bic and place the flame below my machine so the flame rises up and almost reaches in and sip slow. I can hear it bubble and as it goes i move the flame in and give the glass a half turn. I always premelt a bit so I can start with it parallel to the earth.

I just landed from a wild ride. There were entities trying to keep me out and other who helped smuggle me in. I arrive at the scene of what seems a battle and I saw many a fearsome entity in this place. I stayed the observer. It was very reptilian and full of other many tentacled being. One creature with eyes for scales who looked very hungry for me. Some benign creatures hiding.

In my life today it has been tough. Two days ago I was robbed at gunpoint. I am lucky to be making this post. My thoughts descending to rathfullness, fear and anger and back to gratitude, sharp focus on what's important, prayer. I did a soft round of sun salutations before I began tonight because I was shaking with fear and preflight anxiety. I am so glad I took the time to find my center first. The end of the trip everything was so dark and I found myself trying to breathe light into the space and absorb the darkness with the inbreath and although it was not easy it was a profound but simple instruction for my normal life.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 06 July 2013, 11:32:07
In my life today it has been tough. Two days ago I was robbed at gunpoint. I am lucky to be making this post.

I am very sorry to hear this.  I hope you are situated safely now.  Thank you for sharing your experience despite the circumstances.  It sounds like a pretty intense trip.

I had a very intense trip of my own last night.  I had taken quite a lot of MXE (150mg or more) and 1.25g of harmala extract prior to launch.  I loaded a heap of DMT into my pipe and took as much as I could get.  I fell to pieces.  This is normal for a DMT trip, and I lost my fear of ego death long ago, but this was by far the most drawn-out and harrowing death I've ever experienced.  As I shattered, I had the impression, by turns, of being Bill Bailey and David Gilmour ... which is odd because the music in my headphones was all me, neither of those guys was anywhere in the equation.

I felt each of my thousands of little pieces in turn ... and usually, I know how to link them back up again, but this time, each thing I tried to draw on to get the ball rolling came up empty ... it just didn't connect to anything.  I was left a sea of mindless twitches, filled with the apprehension that something had gone very, very much awry.  I want to say I was befuddled or flabbergasted ... but I was in a state of ego death, so there was no 'I' to befuddle.   -_o

At some point I found my feet, and slowly, very slowly, the pieces of myself began to cluster again.  I assembled myself more carefully and consciously than I have ever done.  As I finished my work, I was left with the words 'I am God' on my tongue.  I had arranged a meaningful universe once again out of the nonsense and chaos that had been.  This is of course just a description of a typical ego death, but what was exceptional about this one was how slowly it happened.  It was the most profoundly deconstructive death I ever had, and has left me feeling sturdier and happier than ever.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 06 July 2013, 12:47:07
Hey guys,

just wanted to check in and say i had a beautiful morning playing with Roger Petes DMT and Mozart for music.  It was nothing less then beautiful.

I'm thinking of going back to hyperspace, but a break should be well deserved.

did 50MG the first time then 80MG.....the trick is with the volcano don't fill for  more than 30 seconds.... just enough to get it all vapoed up...it makes consumption a lot easier lmao =P

Anyways beautiful stuff i have much to do today and i am glad i could start it with such a beautiful trip!

peace and love,

edawg420
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 06 July 2013, 12:55:31
At some point I found my feet, and slowly, very slowly, the pieces of myself began to cluster again.  I assembled myself more carefully and consciously than I have ever done.  As I finished my work, I was left with the words 'I am God' on my tongue.  I had arranged a meaningful universe once again out of the nonsense and chaos that had been.  This is of course just a description of a typical ego death, but what was exceptional about this one was how slowly it happened.  It was the most profoundly deconstructive death I ever had, and has left me feeling sturdier and happier than ever.

In shamanism this experience is reproduced with dismemberment from a spirit (animal or demonic) and then you get put back together, only that instead of, say, 5 (the total sum you were before) you are now 5 + 1, there's a piece that gets added to yourself that is what, in turns, transform you into a shaman.

Every culture has its personal external form for this experience, but the base structure is always dissolution in pieces and reconstruction, with - sometimes - new "extraneous" piece(s) added to the former composition.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 06 July 2013, 14:26:31
In shamanism this experience is reproduced with dismemberment from a spirit (animal or demonic) and then you get put back together, only that instead of, say, 5 (the total sum you were before) you are now 5 + 1, there's a piece that gets added to yourself that is what, in turns, transform you into a shaman.

Every culture has its personal external form for this experience, but the base structure is always dissolution in pieces and reconstruction, with - sometimes - new "extraneous" piece(s) added to the former composition.

Hmmm.... I do indeed practise mysticism, but can't say I believe in anything I would deign to term 'demon'.  There are a trio of 'inorganic beings' which like to hang around me and with whom I interact on a regular basis ... but there's hardly anything 'demonic' about them.  I'm much more tempted to call them 'faeries' than 'demons'.

Anyhow ... I have only ever deconstructed to make better use of the pieces I have, never added anything 'extra'.  What is the function of doing this?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 06 July 2013, 17:09:57
The evilness associated to the word demon is a judaic, islamic and christian concept, a *modern* construct born by a duality concept about nature and the universe in general.

The term derives from the greek Daemon that it just means "spirit". Nothing inherently bad or evil in the word. It is used in magick and shamanism (as a difference to the more generic term "spirit") to better indicate the difference in the nature of the same, a spirit of the so-called "underworld" or wild aspects of nature.

Different kind of spirits can have a different type of nature but none of them is evil or bad, black or white (in fat the same terms asociated to magick don't make any sense if not to evidentiate the difference in modus operandi, with "black magick" having more to do with sorcery and/or material aspects, while "white magick" having more to do with ceremonial rituals or mysticism).

The concept of "evil" and "good" for what it concerns these things it is an arbitrary view created by modern monotheistic and dualistic religions as Judaism, Islam and Christianity, but it has nothing to do with the real meaning of those words and what they really represent.

It's true that in some shamanic views there are what can be considered "evil spirits", but also in that case the term "evil" has not the same meaning as a westerner can think of, it has more to do with the type of approach the spirit has, more or less "direct" (so to speak) and so more or less inherently dangerous if you know not what you are doing. Or the evil can be associated to the spirit because the man using it does so for an evil intent (and in this case, yes, it acquires a meaning of being bad, but not for the spirit in itself but for the way it has been used).

Anyhow ... I have only ever deconstructed to make better use of the pieces I have, never added anything 'extra'.  What is the function of doing this?

You could call it a sort of real HPPD (not with perception in the visual sense, but perception in the full sense of the word), where after you return you are not the same person as you were before. You are "you" and yet you aren't anymore. If you ever read Castaneda's "Journey to Ixtlan" there's the chapter when Genaro explain his search for Ixtlan that explains exactly this status.

The type of change in yourself can vary depending in your soul and what you searched from the experience to begin with. It is, in very little words, a full initiation, or what in magick is called the "cross of the abyss", the full union with your Self, your Atman, Augoeides, Genius, Holy Guardian Angel, Higher/Silent Self, Buddha/Christ consciousness or whatever you want to call it. But the union can or can not work (and some people search in it the not-working of it to begin with), in both cases you are a new individual after, either fully without an ego or fully absorbed in it (in any case you are no more a slave as you were before).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 06 July 2013, 18:44:02
Hello all!!   I have just got done making some changa with some of Ringo Deathstarr's dmt... a mix of passionflower, mullein, skullcap.  Its all done drying now, and am going to test'er out in a little bit here.

But before i did that, i wanted to discuss something with you guys.  For some time now, I have been seeing the same entity on almost 75% of my trips... It is sooo wierd!!!  Does anyone else have an entity that seems to always show up??  I have probably seen 4 different entities:  The Elves (there were many of them), a multi-colored  being, and two others i cannot remember.  It is just really weird, and want to know if others experience anything similar.

Last trip, 3 days ago, it was him again, and i could see myself and him in 3rd person.  And he held something up in front of my face.  It looked like some kind of model of something...i'm actually not sure at all what it was but it was very interesting.  It seemed like he was holding this model by a string or something... ever since then, i have been wondering what the hell it was. lol
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 06 July 2013, 19:18:23
Hello all!!   I have just got done making some changa with some of Ringo Deathstarr's dmt... a mix of passionflower, mullein, skullcap.  Its all done drying now, and am going to test'er out in a little bit here.

But before i did that, i wanted to discuss something with you guys.  For some time now, I have been seeing the same entity on almost 75% of my trips... It is sooo wierd!!!  Does anyone else have an entity that seems to always show up??  I have probably seen 4 different entities:  The Elves (there were many of them), a multi-colored  being, and two others i cannot remember.  It is just really weird, and want to know if others experience anything similar.

Last trip, 3 days ago, it was him again, and i could see myself and him in 3rd person.  And he held something up in front of my face.  It looked like some kind of model of something...i'm actually not sure at all what it was but it was very interesting.  It seemed like he was holding this model by a string or something... ever since then, i have been wondering what the hell it was. lol

Yes, I think this is normal.  My early experimentation with DMT introduced me to my death via five different 'elves' ... leading to the eponymous demo which I should be trotting out later this summer.  My experience of DMT has moved on from there, but I did have the same trips repetitively until I managed to fully absorb the lessons they offered.  I think you should pay careful attention to what this 'entity' is telling you .... and remember any symbols and patterns they might show you.   I'm not saying there's going to be a test .... but it'd be good for you. -_o
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 06 July 2013, 20:40:10
Hello all!!   I have just got done making some changa with some of Ringo Deathstarr's dmt... a mix of passionflower, mullein, skullcap.  Its all done drying now, and am going to test'er out in a little bit here.

But before i did that, i wanted to discuss something with you guys.  For some time now, I have been seeing the same entity on almost 75% of my trips... It is sooo wierd!!!  Does anyone else have an entity that seems to always show up??  I have probably seen 4 different entities:  The Elves (there were many of them), a multi-colored  being, and two others i cannot remember.  It is just really weird, and want to know if others experience anything similar.

Last trip, 3 days ago, it was him again, and i could see myself and him in 3rd person.  And he held something up in front of my face.  It looked like some kind of model of something...i'm actually not sure at all what it was but it was very interesting.  It seemed like he was holding this model by a string or something... ever since then, i have been wondering what the hell it was. lol

I have had multiple entities reappear. They usually seem to have a reason for being there. I even have a set that protect me from things and prevent other entities from reaching my field of vision often at the beginning of a trip. on the Nexus site there is a DMT lexicon where a list of various ones are described. Do a site search and it will pop up. Pretty cool because I have seen a lot of them
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 07 July 2013, 04:01:29
On a sort of sideways-related note: does anyone else get luvagrams through the ether?  This is unique in my experience to MXE + DMT trips ... but I've eaten a couple of these guys now, and I'm wondering if anyone else knows what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: RaFaeL5 on 07 July 2013, 15:59:04
I just red a passage in the book by D.M. Turner where he seems to have experienced a connection between the spirit of DMT and the Water Spirit...
have any of you "discovered" this interaction between DMT and water?
If yes, how was it and would you recommend (only) using DMT in the vicinity of water?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 07 July 2013, 16:43:02
I just red a passage in the book by D.M. Turner where he seems to have experienced a connection between the spirit of DMT and the Water Spirit...
have any of you "discovered" this interaction between DMT and water?
If yes, how was it and would you recommend (only) using DMT in the vicinity of water?

I had a couple of pretty awesome experiences with DMT at some waterfalls near my house.  I also recorded the water sounds and mixed them into a very 'aquatic' sounding musical track which I've had a lot of success with on DMT trips.  DMT can give you the speed to interact with whatever spirits are around ... I wouldn't say that DMT has an especial connection to the water in particular, but if you want to meet a water spirit, it is certainly not a bad way to go about it.  You can also use it to meet trees and wind spirits as well as other entities which happen to be about.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 08 July 2013, 23:10:37
FUUU so now ringodeathstar either ran out or took his listings down. I can't blame him if it's the latter,don't want to be bitching in one of the few drama free, true brotherhood threads on here. But fuck this has been happening all over now that i have coins.fuck fuck fuck.lol



FUCK haha

Sorry guys,  I just need to take a short break.  I think I might have had a small leak in my respirator and got a bit of lye inhalation.  Yeah I know, complete rookie mistake.  Felt like absolute crap the last couple of days, but I'm feeling a lot better now.  I've taken steps to make sure it never happens again though.  Plus it wouldn't hurt to give the mail a break since there are only a few blue boxes around me.  Don't want to draw any unwanted attention.  I might take a few days to work on my stealth as well.  Trust me,  I'll be back with a vengeance in a week or so.  In addition,  I've added shipping to Canada.  Thanks for all the support my brethren!  It really means a lot. Talk to y'all in a few days.  :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 08 July 2013, 23:40:39
Just got a 1g package from Ringo Deathstarr, looks and smells good, arrived quickly and the product sure looks good.
I'll have to update after I try it, might be a few days.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 08 July 2013, 23:42:39
What's the minimum dose of vaporized DMT out of the machine to get any effect?  I tried to wet my toes yesterday but didn't have much luck.  I sprinkled 10-15mg of DMT onto some steel wool.  Most of it fell right through the wool so I kept scooping it up and back over the wool.  Not a big deal.

I gave it several tries being very conservative and then said screw it and heated it up good just to see.  That apparently burned it because it was quite harsh.  Not a big deal...I'll try something more moderate next time.  The harsh smoke gave me a bit of a cough though so I decided to try another time.

The DMT I got has a very distinctive smell.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 09 July 2013, 02:10:59
Sorry guys,  I just need to take a short break.  I think I might have had a small leak in my respirator and got a bit of lye inhalation.  Yeah I know, complete rookie mistake.  Felt like absolute crap the last couple of days, but I'm feeling a lot better now.  I've taken steps to make sure it never happens again though.  Plus it wouldn't hurt to give the mail a break since there are only a few blue boxes around me.  Don't want to draw any unwanted attention.  I might take a few days to work on my stealth as well.  Trust me,  I'll be back with a vengeance in a week or so.  In addition,  I've added shipping to Canada.  Thanks for all the support my brethren!  It really means a lot. Talk to y'all in a few days.  :)
A respirator is indeed a must. I've inhaled NaOH quite a few times myself. Never felt bad afterwards though. Still, better safe than sorry. Wish there was a respirator for DCM. That is much nastier to inhale!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 09 July 2013, 06:37:53
On a sort of sideways-related note: does anyone else get luvagrams through the ether?  This is unique in my experience to MXE + DMT trips ... but I've eaten a couple of these guys now, and I'm wondering if anyone else knows what I'm talking about.

I once had a dog being pushed in a shopping cart by a woman throw treats made of light in my mouth and had a fairy do the same. They tasted like licking a 9volt battery sort of.
Sorry guys,  I just need to take a short break.  I think I might have had a small leak in my respirator and got a bit of lye inhalation.  Yeah I know, complete rookie mistake.  Felt like absolute crap the last couple of days, but I'm feeling a lot better now.  I've taken steps to make sure it never happens again though.  Plus it wouldn't hurt to give the mail a break since there are only a few blue boxes around me.  Don't want to draw any unwanted attention.  I might take a few days to work on my stealth as well.  Trust me,  I'll be back with a vengeance in a week or so.  In addition,  I've added shipping to Canada.  Thanks for all the support my brethren!  It really means a lot. Talk to y'all in a few days.  :)
A respirator is indeed a must. I've inhaled NaOH quite a few times myself. Never felt bad afterwards though. Still, better safe than sorry. Wish there was a respirator for DCM. That is much nastier to inhale!

Take care of yourself. Facial hair can fuck up your seal. If you place your hand over the part that lets air out and exhale no air should escape if you mask is properly placed. Received your offerings and I had no complaints. The first buy I ever made on SR was almost all tape and obvious fake return addy. It's funny what some people call stealth. Not sure when I will smoke again in the near future though. Being robbed at gunpoint has turned my psyche very dark and I am struggling with the trauma and rage more than I thought at first. Seems to get worse by the day in waves. I may need some serious yoga, meditation and spiritual counsel to combat that thirst for revenge that fear is driving. I really strive to be nonviolent but I have that piece in me that is very capable.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 09 July 2013, 10:16:17
Being robbed at gunpoint has turned my psyche very dark and I am struggling with the trauma and rage more than I thought at first. Seems to get worse by the day in waves. I may need some serious yoga, meditation and spiritual counsel to combat that thirst for revenge that fear is driving. I really strive to be nonviolent but I have that piece in me that is very capable.

You did well. It's better you do nothing when you have a gun pointed at you. Even if you are an expert in Krav-Maga or similar it's always best to simply give the robber what he wants and end it there. It's true that a gun reaction at closer than 21 feet is much slower than a body reaction (guns are one of the worst weapon at close range) but there are many parameters to take in consideration, as adrenaline, your physical/psychical state atm etc. so if your life is not at stake (as for example you are sure they are going to kill you no matter what) it's always best to simply do nothing.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 09 July 2013, 17:05:26
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A respirator is indeed a must. I've inhaled NaOH quite a few times myself. Never felt bad afterwards though. Still, better safe than sorry. Wish there was a respirator for DCM. That is much nastier to inhale!
How about a military Gasmask
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 09 July 2013, 17:33:23
What's the minimum dose of vaporized DMT out of the machine to get any effect?  I tried to wet my toes yesterday but didn't have much luck.  I sprinkled 10-15mg of DMT onto some steel wool.  Most of it fell right through the wool so I kept scooping it up and back over the wool.  Not a big deal.

I gave it several tries being very conservative and then said screw it and heated it up good just to see.  That apparently burned it because it was quite harsh.  Not a big deal...I'll try something more moderate next time.  The harsh smoke gave me a bit of a cough though so I decided to try another time.

The DMT I got has a very distinctive smell.

Dr. Strassman used 0.4mg/KG of body weight and that was using IV method and the dose was comfortable for most of his subjects.

I would think you need to have double of that if you are vaping; the efficiency of this Vs. the IV would be around half if you consider all the waste, etc. So, take around 0.8mg/KG and see how it feels.

Hope this helps.

GSE

^ This on the dosage.

Als, if DMT falls thru the mesh when you put it on it then it means that you have not pressed the mesh well enough. see OP - there are some photos there of how to make sure that mesh is dense enough but you can still vape with it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 09 July 2013, 22:05:55
What's the minimum dose of vaporized DMT out of the machine to get any effect?  I tried to wet my toes yesterday but didn't have much luck.  I sprinkled 10-15mg of DMT onto some steel wool.  Most of it fell right through the wool so I kept scooping it up and back over the wool.  Not a big deal.

I gave it several tries being very conservative and then said screw it and heated it up good just to see.  That apparently burned it because it was quite harsh.  Not a big deal...I'll try something more moderate next time.  The harsh smoke gave me a bit of a cough though so I decided to try another time.

The DMT I got has a very distinctive smell.

Dr. Strassman used 0.4mg/KG of body weight and that was using IV method and the dose was comfortable for most of his subjects.

I would think you need to have double of that if you are vaping; the efficiency of this Vs. the IV would be around half if you consider all the waste, etc. So, take around 0.8mg/KG and see how it feels.

Hope this helps.

GSE

^ This on the dosage.

Als, if DMT falls thru the mesh when you put it on it then it means that you have not pressed the mesh well enough. see OP - there are some photos there of how to make sure that mesh is dense enough but you can still vape with it.

Thanks guys.  I haven't looked at the OP in a few months so I'll go take a look at it.  Regarding dosage, I was curious about a threshold dose rather than a typical dose but still good info.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ExperienceAll on 09 July 2013, 23:38:24
How many of you guys use Vapor Genies and Volcanoes? I am getting a Volcano soon and was thinking about using it for DMT and cannabis but I didn't know if I should get a Vapor Genie glass bat just for my DMT experiences?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 10 July 2013, 07:38:06
How many of you guys use Vapor Genies and Volcanoes? I am getting a Volcano soon and was thinking about using it for DMT and cannabis but I didn't know if I should get a Vapor Genie glass bat just for my DMT experiences?

I have never tried it, but there seems to be a post a while back where user complained that DMT would precipitate too quickly if glass is used. Apparently dedicated bag was better AND there was a post to the effect that there is no need to wait for the bag to get full and that DMT's dose was evaporating as bag was getting to half full only. Report back please your findings to the rest of those curious here. Best of luck in your hypertravel, IM
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: RaFaeL5 on 10 July 2013, 16:19:14
Anyone out there using the glass Vapor Genie for his DMT?
If yes, do you use multiple steel screens or steel wool to put the DMT on?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 10 July 2013, 21:47:28
I have a glass vapor genie and a volcano and I prefer the glass vapor genie. I think it works better. I don't use screens I use copper wool. You need to burn it until it is black first. Do not use stainless steel wool. It is not safe to use. It gives us some harmful chemicals when heated (hexavalent chromium, etc.).

dondada, this is a second time I hear this (+1 by the way) and I am very curious as to how is this possible since well burned stainless steel would have all the lubricants removed from it, but for other stuff to start vaping off it temperatures need to reach a very high level which I did not think are reached on these devices. I do seem to remember reading on dmtnexus that steel was better, but now starting to doubt... I have both and from my experience I find steel vaping better and not getting clogged up as fast as my copper mesh does.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 10 July 2013, 22:45:12
Hey everyone, hope all is well with you all! 

I was wondering if anyone else has had Ringo Deathstarrs DMT???  I have noticed that there seems to be a lot less colorful than all the other dmt that i have tried... I am not the only one who thought that.  It just does not seem to be that visual to me.  I have made changa with it, which is what i always do!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 10 July 2013, 23:20:04
Hey everyone, hope all is well with you all! 

I was wondering if anyone else has had Ringo Deathstarrs DMT???  I have noticed that there seems to be a lot less colorful than all the other dmt that i have tried... I am not the only one who thought that.  It just does not seem to be that visual to me.  I have made changa with it, which is what i always do!
i vouched for him, as i definitely enjoyed the sample i got.

i definitely did find it to be a bit less visual though, funny you say that.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 12 July 2013, 00:52:00
On a sort of sideways-related note: does anyone else get luvagrams through the ether?  This is unique in my experience to MXE + DMT trips ... but I've eaten a couple of these guys now, and I'm wondering if anyone else knows what I'm talking about.

I once had a dog being pushed in a shopping cart by a woman throw treats made of light in my mouth and had a fairy do the same. They tasted like licking a 9volt battery sort of.
Sorry guys,  I just need to take a short break.  I think I might have had a small leak in my respirator and got a bit of lye inhalation.  Yeah I know, complete rookie mistake.  Felt like absolute crap the last couple of days, but I'm feeling a lot better now.  I've taken steps to make sure it never happens again though.  Plus it wouldn't hurt to give the mail a break since there are only a few blue boxes around me.  Don't want to draw any unwanted attention.  I might take a few days to work on my stealth as well.  Trust me,  I'll be back with a vengeance in a week or so.  In addition,  I've added shipping to Canada.  Thanks for all the support my brethren!  It really means a lot. Talk to y'all in a few days.  :)
A respirator is indeed a must. I've inhaled NaOH quite a few times myself. Never felt bad afterwards though. Still, better safe than sorry. Wish there was a respirator for DCM. That is much nastier to inhale!

Take care of yourself. Facial hair can fuck up your seal. If you place your hand over the part that lets air out and exhale no air should escape if you mask is properly placed. Received your offerings and I had no complaints. The first buy I ever made on SR was almost all tape and obvious fake return addy. It's funny what some people call stealth. Not sure when I will smoke again in the near future though. Being robbed at gunpoint has turned my psyche very dark and I am struggling with the trauma and rage more than I thought at first. Seems to get worse by the day in waves. I may need some serious yoga, meditation and spiritual counsel to combat that thirst for revenge that fear is driving. I really strive to be nonviolent but I have that piece in me that is very capable.

Wow,  I'm very sorry to hear that,  but at least you didn't get hurt.  You gotta look on the bright side of life.  Anyway, that dude who robbed you probably had a worse life than you could ever imagine.   The best revenge is living well.  You're right about that facial hair thing.  That is to say, if I even have any ;) 

Hey everyone, hope all is well with you all! 

I was wondering if anyone else has had Ringo Deathstarrs DMT???  I have noticed that there seems to be a lot less colorful than all the other dmt that i have tried... I am not the only one who thought that.  It just does not seem to be that visual to me.  I have made changa with it, which is what i always do!

Hmmm,  to me this seems very odd because I always have pretty intense visuals.  Especially of the phosphene variety.  I never make changa with it so I can't really comment on that.  Maybe it was the batch you got.  I have a new batch and it's looking very good.  Light yellow to white, and I'm in the process of making DMT fumarate.  We'll see how that goes.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 12 July 2013, 01:24:56
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The best revenge is living well
To quote Niles from Frasier
"It is a wonderful expression. I just dont know how true it is. You do not see it turning up in a lot of opera plots. ‘Ludwig, maddened by the poisoning of his entire family, wreaks vengeance on Gunther in the third act by living well. Whereupon Woton, upon discovering his deception, wreaks vengeance on Gunther in the third act again by living even better than the Duke."
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 12 July 2013, 05:33:05
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The best revenge is living well
To quote Niles from Frasier
"It is a wonderful expression. I just dont know how true it is. You do not see it turning up in a lot of opera plots. ‘Ludwig, maddened by the poisoning of his entire family, wreaks vengeance on Gunther in the third act by living well. Whereupon Woton, upon discovering his deception, wreaks vengeance on Gunther in the third act again by living even better than the Duke."

Ha!  Of course not.  Nobody would want to see that opera.  One of my favorite films contains one of the most beautifully twisted revenge plots ever.  Oldboy.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 13 July 2013, 07:48:37
Oldboy IS a good movie.

On another subject I think I may have come up with an interesting idea, I'd like some feedback before attempting to try it though.
What if you made some spliffs or cigarettes with changa in them. I was thinking that if staged properly this might make a very discreet and nice way of transporting and using your DMT.

I was thinking maybe something like a slow burning substance that burns somewhat cool for about the first third of the joint, followed by the changa, or maybe a catnip/DMT infusion (as I've heard that works well without clouding the experience) and then with something somewhat inert behind it for the last maybe quarter or so of the cig.

The idea would be that you pull somewhat heavily for the first minute or so to get the cherry closer to the DMT containing material, then you draw slowly and carefully to vape/heat the DMT in a similar technique to the sandwich method. Or by pulling hot air through the changa (convection?). Once it start hitting you you could just put it down. Or possibly put a flame retardant plant material in the end so the joint would extinguish itself after the material was smoked.

A few questions first though
1. Would a filter mess this up? It would be cool if this could be done to look like a normal cigarette.
2. Are there changes that should/could be made to possibly make this sort of thing more efficient?
3. Is there any serious reason (that I've missed) as to why this is impossible or very unlikely to work?
5. Suggestions for materials to either infuse with DMT or to use as my burning material?

I'm very curious to see if this can be used to create a somewhat reliable technique for smoking DMT in a discreet pre-rolled package. If anyone else (with a larger supply of DMT than I) would be willing to try this out I'd be very pleased to hear the results too.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 13 July 2013, 08:04:16
Oldboy IS a good movie.

On another subject I think I may have come up with an interesting idea, I'd like some feedback before attempting to try it though.
What if you made some spliffs or cigarettes with changa in them. I was thinking that if staged properly this might make a very discreet and nice way of transporting and using your DMT.

I was thinking maybe something like a slow burning substance that burns somewhat cool for about the first third of the joint, followed by the changa, or maybe a catnip/DMT infusion (as I've heard that works well without clouding the experience) and then with something somewhat inert behind it for the last maybe quarter or so of the cig.

The idea would be that you pull somewhat heavily for the first minute or so to get the cherry closer to the DMT containing material, then you draw slowly and carefully to vape/heat the DMT in a similar technique to the sandwich method. Or by pulling hot air through the changa (convection?). Once it start hitting you you could just put it down. Or possibly put a flame retardant plant material in the end so the joint would extinguish itself after the material was smoked.

A few questions first though
1. Would a filter mess this up? It would be cool if this could be done to look like a normal cigarette.
2. Are there changes that should/could be made to possibly make this sort of thing more efficient?
3. Is there any serious reason (that I've missed) as to why this is impossible or very unlikely to work?
5. Suggestions for materials to either infuse with DMT or to use as my burning material?

I'm very curious to see if this can be used to create a somewhat reliable technique for smoking DMT in a discreet pre-rolled package. If anyone else (with a larger supply of DMT than I) would be willing to try this out I'd be very pleased to hear the results too.

I need to find time to see the Oldboy

With some thinking and experimenting I think that one could make your idea work, but what problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 13 July 2013, 08:15:51
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With some thinking and experimenting I think that one could make your idea work, but what problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
I was hoping for a portable, stealthy and less suspicious way of transporting and using DMT.
If you could use it with a filter you could easily just fill a pack of cigarettes with these and no one would be the wiser, you could probably even get through a police pat down with something so discreet. Not to mention it allows you to do things like smoke it in the car (in the back seat and/or while parked with the engine off OF COURSE) or anywhere else were a somewhat unconscious person might not look very out of place. Lastly I was hoping that it would be somewhat reliable and slightly more fool proof method than "the machine" which may be more efficient and powerful, but has been continually giving me grief for over a week. ( which I assure you  is not an issue with my "machine", as my mother and roomate seem to do it just fine using the same one, just an issue with me apparently)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 13 July 2013, 08:48:00
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With some thinking and experimenting I think that one could make your idea work, but what problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
I was hoping for a portable, stealthy and less suspicious way of transporting and using DMT.
If you could use it with a filter you could easily just fill a pack of cigarettes with these and no one would be the wiser, you could probably even get through a police pat down with something so discreet. Not to mention it allows you to do things like smoke it in the car (in the back seat and/or while parked with the engine off OF COURSE) or anywhere else were a somewhat unconscious person might not look very out of place. Lastly I was hoping that it would be somewhat reliable and slightly more fool proof method than "the machine" which may be more efficient and powerful, but has been continually giving me grief for over a week. ( which I assure you  is not an issue with my "machine", as my mother and roomate seem to do it just fine using the same one, just an issue with me apparently)

LOL - good going on using the same machine as your mother!!! Restecpa! +1

While I agree that this appearance is a lot more inconspicuous, spice does have a strong smell that is very different from tobacco and I would suspect that filter would take a lot of it out ... I wonder if @GGA, @DMTisinME or @DMTNEXUS have tried putting changa into a filtered cigarette?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 13 July 2013, 09:05:45
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The best revenge is living well
To quote Niles from Frasier
"It is a wonderful expression. I just dont know how true it is. You do not see it turning up in a lot of opera plots. ‘Ludwig, maddened by the poisoning of his entire family, wreaks vengeance on Gunther in the third act by living well. Whereupon Woton, upon discovering his deception, wreaks vengeance on Gunther in the third act again by living even better than the Duke."

Ha!  Of course not.  Nobody would want to see that opera.  One of my favorite films contains one of the most beautifully twisted revenge plots ever.  Oldboy.
I love Oldboy too and really the whole trilogy. Sympathy for Mr. Vengence, the first in the trilogy bent my mind in its utter tragedy. Park is a master filmmaker.
Finally tried the DMT from you today after a nice night out at a pool party for one of my friends from way way back. My old school kids all grown and playing our house classics on vinyl. Since I am alcohol free I started the night wth 10mg of 2cb blended with about 15mg of 4ho-mipt. Had a very mellow social trip and after we got home and my wife fell asleep I was and am wide awake in an afterglow I love about both of the compounds. With  my empathic centers more open than they have been I vaporized 54mg and had a very strange beginning to the trip. The room became completely empty and the sound of our air fliters was deafening It was not unpleasant and after a while there was an entity. It was telling me jokes and I have to admit it was pretty funny to me at the time. So weird. I closed my eyes and saw sunflower like beings with thousands of faces with every expression imaginable as they were on a rollercoaster ride themselves. Laughing and screaming in joy and terror in one multitudinous being.  I flew too close and they didn't like that so I opened my eyes briefly, left them and meditated until i was baseline again.
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With some thinking and experimenting I think that one could make your idea work, but what problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
I was hoping for a portable, stealthy and less suspicious way of transporting and using DMT.
If you could use it with a filter you could easily just fill a pack of cigarettes with these and no one would be the wiser, you could probably even get through a police pat down with something so discreet. Not to mention it allows you to do things like smoke it in the car (in the back seat and/or while parked with the engine off OF COURSE) or anywhere else were a somewhat unconscious person might not look very out of place. Lastly I was hoping that it would be somewhat reliable and slightly more fool proof method than "the machine" which may be more efficient and powerful, but has been continually giving me grief for over a week. ( which I assure you  is not an issue with my "machine", as my mother and roomate seem to do it just fine using the same one, just an issue with me apparently)
There are some interesting experiments with e-cigs on the dmtnexus site that may be worth a read. If I dig up a link i will pm you. Seems like a good venture for some pioneering vendor to take on 8) Perhaps in the meantime maybe use your peeps to co-pilot the machine for you. Wish I had a willing copilot sometimes.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 13 July 2013, 10:36:41
Some DMT-Nexus threads about E-Cigs for smoking:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=45318
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=38704

I never tried this method myself but it seems something very worthy to research upon. I think that if you can build a good setup then it is definitely the most easy and reliable methods of all the others (apart naturally desktop vaporizers as the Volcano).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 13 July 2013, 10:43:20
I have a glass vapor genie and a volcano and I prefer the glass vapor genie. I think it works better. I don't use screens I use copper wool. You need to burn it until it is black first. Do not use stainless steel wool. It is not safe to use. It gives us some harmful chemicals when heated (hexavalent chromium, etc.).

The VG/GVG is definetly one of the best methods to vaporize DMT but it takes a little to be used to it (right flame, right toking force, right temperature in the chamber etc. etc.) When you are expert in it, however, it offers probably the best vapor in the less amount of time, even of a Volcano.

As for steel vs. copper, chemicals have very little to do with it. It's impossible at the temperature given (you would really need to put a torch lighter in there for more than a full minute all at the same place) to really release harmful chemicals from steel. All the point is in the ease of use vs. the transfer heating capabilities. Steel is much more simple to use and it's very very difficult to burn product with it; copper is more professional (in the fact that it vaporizes more evenly and faster) but it is more easy you can burn your product (especially with a torch lighter).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 13 July 2013, 15:31:07
A torch lighter absolutely reaches a high enough temperature to cause stainless steel wool to release chromium and nickel.

In fact I specified that a torch lighter would if you keep there long enough. The problem is: do you keep it long enough on a normal Machine use the cause that release, and even more with a normal bic lighter that's much more normally used (since a torch lighter has more chance to burn the DMT)?

An usual Machine toke (to vaporize DMT) lasts normally from 4 to max 10 seconds *at full heat* (not all the duration, the time the temperature is at its highest). Do you think that you reach a temperature high enough in that time frame to cause release chromium and nickel? I don't think so, neither remotely (you would need a very strong torch lighter but in that case it would be impossible to either use).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: anonman88 on 13 July 2013, 18:52:45
has anyone tried/used a g pen or other like device to smoke DMT? i've been wondering if it would work as it would be pretty awesome to just be able to use a pen.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 13 July 2013, 21:28:05
A torch lighter absolutely reaches a high enough temperature to cause stainless steel wool to release chromium and nickel.

In fact I specified that a torch lighter would if you keep there long enough. The problem is: do you keep it long enough on a normal Machine use the cause that release, and even more with a normal bic lighter that's much more normally used (since a torch lighter has more chance to burn the DMT)?

An usual Machine toke (to vaporize DMT) lasts normally from 4 to max 10 seconds *at full heat* (not all the duration, the time the temperature is at its highest). Do you think that you reach a temperature high enough in that time frame to cause release chromium and nickel? I don't think so, neither remotely (you would need a very strong torch lighter but in that case it would be impossible to either use).
I rarely if ever let the flame even touch the steel mesh I use these days and the vapor is way less harsh. My Machine has quite a bit of spice gathering on the backside of the mesh but I periodically wash it out in methanol and then filter the solvent into a collecting jar which has formed a red goo when it evaporates. One of these days I will take this and zinc wash it and recrystallize it. It may be just me but trying to smoke the goo on the mesh gives me darker trips so I have been avoiding that. I have had better results vaporizing with steel instead of copper perhaps because of the surface area of the steel is wider and curlier offering a better convection opportunity as the spice melts. when I pre-melt the spice I just make quick circles over and around the mouth of the pipe just enough to make the surface stick down, I tilt it parallel to the earth and light the bic from 1" below so the flame just barely reaches in and I hear sizzle of the spice going to vapor as I very slowly but steadily inhale and give the machine a slight turn until my lungs fill. I Count to 10 before exhale and hope to god I can manage to light the next hit. Sometimes I cant but it's because I did so well the first shot I really may not require the next. I hope this helps those who burn their mesh know they really don't have to do that in order to blast off. Your lungs and body will thank you.

HARM REDUCTION NOTE: Flying solo can present issues with hot pipes so I now place a large kitchen heat mit in my lap (sitting in lotus position) and lower my hands to my lap holding the base.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: MultiExciter on 13 July 2013, 21:38:24
Hey everyone,

This is my very first "real" post, so I thought to start off by introducing myself.
I'm Multi Exciter, still quite newbie DMT vendor, so this is probably right place for me to start on forums.

I was just briefly looking at previous posts and realised I've got plenty to learn from many of you guys, especially about various smoking techniques.

I would try to share some of my experience so that decent quality spirit molecule can be more accessible to anyone who is willing to extract it.

It's been about 5 years since I started experimenting with different extraction techniques and for me personally various forms of STB work best.
It's relatively easy and provide both great quality and good yields when done properly.

Most common mistake I have been seeing people do is impatience.
Based on my chemistry background I can assure you that little things really matter, so it's important to take your time and not rush it…

I would be happy to share more details about my extractions techniques later.

Peace & Love
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 13 July 2013, 21:53:17
Hey everyone,

This is my very first "real" post, so I thought to start off by introducing myself.
I'm Multi Exciter, still quite newbie DMT vendor, so this is probably right place for me to start on forums.

I was just briefly looking at previous posts and realised I've got plenty to learn from many of you guys, especially about various smoking techniques.

I would try to share some of my experience so that decent quality spirit molecule can be more accessible to anyone who is willing to extract it.

It's been about 5 years since I started experimenting with different extraction techniques and for me personally various forms of STB work best.
It's relatively easy and provide both great quality and good yields when done properly.

Most common mistake I have been seeing people do is impatience.
Based on my chemistry background I can assure you that little things really matter, so it's important to take your time and not rush it…

I would be happy to share more details about my extractions techniques later.

Peace & Love
Welcome MuliExiter. I could bore you to tears with Acacia C. questions.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 13 July 2013, 22:20:43
I would be happy to share more details about my extractions techniques later.

Welcome, ME.  Very glad to be your first +1.  Although you may be new to this thread, we have known about you.  You have been on our 'good vendor' list since almost the beginning.  Thank you for your kind offer to share your knowledge.  There are many teks and guides out there, but having recently performed my own first extraction, I know the value of an experienced resource who is personally available to answer questions.  I am sure many of us will want to avail ourselves of your expertise.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 13 July 2013, 22:49:26
Hey everyone,

This is my very first "real" post, so I thought to start off by introducing myself.
I'm Multi Exciter, still quite newbie DMT vendor, so this is probably right place for me to start on forums.

I was just briefly looking at previous posts and realised I've got plenty to learn from many of you guys, especially about various smoking techniques.

I would try to share some of my experience so that decent quality spirit molecule can be more accessible to anyone who is willing to extract it.

It's been about 5 years since I started experimenting with different extraction techniques and for me personally various forms of STB work best.
It's relatively easy and provide both great quality and good yields when done properly.

Most common mistake I have been seeing people do is impatience.
Based on my chemistry background I can assure you that little things really matter, so it's important to take your time and not rush it…

I would be happy to share more details about my extractions techniques later.

Peace & Love

Hey,

Do you prefer Heptane re-xing or just regular naptha?  Also, have you tried a salt tek?  I tried one side by side with a regular tek, and it seemed to produce cleaner crystals with a slight higher yield.  It was just a pain in the ass to get all those salt crystals to dissolve before hand.

Acacia C was one of the hardest extractions I've performed.  It yielded tan DMT with a unique smell.  Honestly it was one of the better trips I've had though. I just couldn't perfect it like I wanted to.  It took all day doing an acid base extraction on 1 kilo.  Any advice?

I've been reading the research on those e-cigs.  It would be really cool to be able to perfect something like that and offer it on the road.  Is there anything else y'all would like to see offered on SR?  DMT related of course.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Phant on 14 July 2013, 02:02:03
Hey everyone,

This is my very first "real" post, so I thought to start off by introducing myself.
I'm Multi Exciter, still quite newbie DMT vendor, so this is probably right place for me to start on forums.

I was just briefly looking at previous posts and realised I've got plenty to learn from many of you guys, especially about various smoking techniques.

I would try to share some of my experience so that decent quality spirit molecule can be more accessible to anyone who is willing to extract it.

It's been about 5 years since I started experimenting with different extraction techniques and for me personally various forms of STB work best.
It's relatively easy and provide both great quality and good yields when done properly.

Most common mistake I have been seeing people do is impatience.
Based on my chemistry background I can assure you that little things really matter, so it's important to take your time and not rush it…

I would be happy to share more details about my extractions techniques later.

Peace & Love

Hey,

Do you prefer Heptane re-xing or just regular naptha?  Also, have you tried a salt tek?  I tried one side by side with a regular tek, and it seemed to produce cleaner crystals with a slight higher yield.  It was just a pain in the ass to get all those salt crystals to dissolve before hand.

Acacia C was one of the hardest extractions I've performed.  It yielded tan DMT with a unique smell.  Honestly it was one of the better trips I've had though. I just couldn't perfect it like I wanted to.  It took all day doing an acid base extraction on 1 kilo.  Any advice?

I've been reading the research on those e-cigs.  It would be really cool to be able to perfect something like that and offer it on the road.  Is there anything else y'all would like to see offered on SR?  DMT related of course.



Hey man I'm looking to purchase some dmt for the first time after a lot of experience with lsd. You seem to have very good prices. My question is what is the difference between your freebase dmt and n, n dmt? Thanks.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 14 July 2013, 02:11:53
Hey everyone,

This is my very first "real" post, so I thought to start off by introducing myself.
I'm Multi Exciter, still quite newbie DMT vendor, so this is probably right place for me to start on forums.

I was just briefly looking at previous posts and realised I've got plenty to learn from many of you guys, especially about various smoking techniques.

I would try to share some of my experience so that decent quality spirit molecule can be more accessible to anyone who is willing to extract it.

It's been about 5 years since I started experimenting with different extraction techniques and for me personally various forms of STB work best.
It's relatively easy and provide both great quality and good yields when done properly.

Most common mistake I have been seeing people do is impatience.
Based on my chemistry background I can assure you that little things really matter, so it's important to take your time and not rush it…

I would be happy to share more details about my extractions techniques later.

Peace & Love
I've done lots of STBs (as well as A/Bs) and my experience is that STBs work best when cold. As long as I don't preboil the MHRB, cool down the caustic solution to room temp before adding to MHRB and don't heat the solvent, I get great results. Heat results in brown solvent and dirty DMT. I always add lots of NaOH as that seems to work best. No emulsions! Been experimenting with supersaturating the basic solution with salt recently. I haven't observed an increase in yield but increasing the density of the basic solution lets the solvent to separate easier and not form emulsions.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Theory on 14 July 2013, 03:24:36
I will soon be vending acacia confusa extracted DMT. My team uses a acid base extraction method. Look for my product to hit the road early August .

I will be shipping only domestic in the United States. Prices will be around 90usd a gram and all product will be recrystalised until we achieve white crystals no yellow spice here!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 14 July 2013, 05:42:48

Hey man I'm looking to purchase some dmt for the first time after a lot of experience with lsd. You seem to have very good prices. My question is what is the difference between your freebase dmt and n, n dmt? Thanks.

There is no difference.  DMT freebase is the smokable form of nn-dmt.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Phant on 14 July 2013, 07:23:05

Hey man I'm looking to purchase some dmt for the first time after a lot of experience with lsd. You seem to have very good prices. My question is what is the difference between your freebase dmt and n, n dmt? Thanks.

There is no difference.  DMT freebase is the smokable form of nn-dmt.

Alright, thanks for the response. Hopefully ordering tomorrow!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 14 July 2013, 07:27:00
Hey everyone,

This is my very first "real" post, so I thought to start off by introducing myself.
I'm Multi Exciter, still quite newbie DMT vendor, so this is probably right place for me to start on forums.

I was just briefly looking at previous posts and realised I've got plenty to learn from many of you guys, especially about various smoking techniques.

I would try to share some of my experience so that decent quality spirit molecule can be more accessible to anyone who is willing to extract it.

It's been about 5 years since I started experimenting with different extraction techniques and for me personally various forms of STB work best.
It's relatively easy and provide both great quality and good yields when done properly.

Most common mistake I have been seeing people do is impatience.
Based on my chemistry background I can assure you that little things really matter, so it's important to take your time and not rush it…

I would be happy to share more details about my extractions techniques later.

Peace & Love

Hey,

Do you prefer Heptane re-xing or just regular naptha?  Also, have you tried a salt tek?  I tried one side by side with a regular tek, and it seemed to produce cleaner crystals with a slight higher yield.  It was just a pain in the ass to get all those salt crystals to dissolve before hand.

Acacia C was one of the hardest extractions I've performed.  It yielded tan DMT with a unique smell.  Honestly it was one of the better trips I've had though. I just couldn't perfect it like I wanted to.  It took all day doing an acid base extraction on 1 kilo.  Any advice?

I've been reading the research on those e-cigs.  It would be really cool to be able to perfect something like that and offer it on the road.  Is there anything else y'all would like to see offered on SR?  DMT related of course.

Good to see you here, MultiExciter!!! And while I do not have personal knowledge or abilities to perform an extraction I think all of us on SR will benefit if you swap your experiences here!!! +1 to GGA's maiden thank!

From other things I would be really interested in a form of dmt that is possible to insuflate rather than smoke without massive punishment ... Do salts like that exist?
And another thing - availability of fumerate would be awesome!!!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 14 July 2013, 09:27:48
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(especially with a torch lighter)
or a creme brulee torch (which is what I've been using)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: White 0ut on 14 July 2013, 10:02:12
What temp should I set my volcano digit at?

Have some of ChemCats DMT on the way!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 14 July 2013, 10:05:20

Good to see you here, MultiExciter!!! And while I do not have personal knowledge or abilities to perform an extraction I think all of us on SR will benefit if you swap your experiences here!!! +1 to GGA's maiden thank!

From other things I would be really interested in a form of dmt that is possible to insuflate rather than smoke without massive punishment ... Do salts like that exist?
And another thing - availability of fumerate would be awesome!!!

You can insulfate freebase and fumarate, but I hear it burns like Hell for about 3 hours.  I've been looking into DMT acetate, possibly even a nose spray.  I'm also considering a pharma of some kind.  Maybe one with tetrahydroharmine instead of just the harmaline to get the full ayahuasca experience.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 14 July 2013, 10:33:27
Hey everyone,

This is my very first "real" post, so I thought to start off by introducing myself.
I'm Multi Exciter, still quite newbie DMT vendor, so this is probably right place for me to start on forums.

I was just briefly looking at previous posts and realised I've got plenty to learn from many of you guys, especially about various smoking techniques.

I would try to share some of my experience so that decent quality spirit molecule can be more accessible to anyone who is willing to extract it.

It's been about 5 years since I started experimenting with different extraction techniques and for me personally various forms of STB work best.
It's relatively easy and provide both great quality and good yields when done properly.

Most common mistake I have been seeing people do is impatience.
Based on my chemistry background I can assure you that little things really matter, so it's important to take your time and not rush it…

I would be happy to share more details about my extractions techniques later.

Peace & Love

Good to see you here ME.

I wondered why I never had the occasion to talk with you in the forum.

Anyway, you know we will hear in September ;)

Best of luck.
BI
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 14 July 2013, 10:35:39
has anyone tried/used a g pen or other like device to smoke DMT? i've been wondering if it would work as it would be pretty awesome to just be able to use a pen.

In DMT-Nexus you find a lot of threads about E-Cigs experimentation. I quoted the two primary ones above.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 14 July 2013, 10:39:29
It may be just me but trying to smoke the goo on the mesh gives me darker trips so I have been avoiding that.

No, it's not just you. In fact it is a well know thing at this point that the goo gives a different experience.
I actually wash the plug after every use with vinegar or ethanol and periodically (i.e. every 10 or so uses) change it. I personally don't like much the experience the resin gives, not because of the "darker" aspect but because it is much less visual and transcendental, so I try to avoid its contamination as much as possible.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 14 July 2013, 10:44:52
or a creme brulee torch (which is what I've been using)

A creme brulé torch???
That's damn high. Why do you use it? For me it's either too high a normal torch lighter as the Arc for The Machine (it is perfect for the GVG instead, probably the perfect combination to smoke spice, if you have the money), so I always use a normal bic.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 14 July 2013, 18:15:59

You can insulfate freebase and fumarate, but I hear it burns like Hell for about 3 hours.  I've been looking into DMT acetate, possibly even a nose spray.  I'm also considering a pharma of some kind.  Maybe one with tetrahydroharmine instead of just the harmaline to get the full ayahuasca experience.

yeh, this is what I have heard about freebase and fumerate insufflation ... and therefore never tried :)

Are you saying that acetate is a lot more palatable for the nose?

I know that fumerate is a lot better for pharmahuasca experience and this is why I have a small quantity of it, so if you bring the MAOI piece it would be really cool to get that. For now I have Syrian rue and moclobemide as a MAOI element.

Hoping to hear more on your innovations!!!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 14 July 2013, 19:54:21
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That's damn high. Why do you use it? For me it's either too high a normal torch lighter as the Arc for The Machine (it is perfect for the GVG instead, probably the perfect combination to smoke spice, if you have the money), so I always use a normal bic.
I was told that you needed to use a torch and just point the flame at the copper wool of the machine. however I keep burning the material. I can adjust the airflow via a knob and make it more like a normal lighter.
My issue, and maybe this is just me, but how are you supposed to use a normal lighter on the machine. A torch is directional put I cannot get a normal lighter's flame to go sideways into hte machine without actually drawing hte flame into the copper wool. (you do hold the machine sideways right? Like a pipe?)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: shrektastic on 14 July 2013, 20:39:06
What temp should I set my volcano digit at?

Have some of ChemCats DMT on the way!

I always set mine on full temp....The only thing that sucks is that I had to re-adjust the bag to where it was exactly 3 big lung fulls,because after holding in 2....it's all I can do to get that last inhale in before I am GONE.
I have a dmt bag and one for my herb now,because of the funky taste/smell That the dmt leaves behind,not a pleasant taste combo when I've got strawberry cough or sweet tooth that I can't taste over the burnt plastic aroma.
Good luck,
PEACE
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 14 July 2013, 22:27:58
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That's damn high. Why do you use it? For me it's either too high a normal torch lighter as the Arc for The Machine (it is perfect for the GVG instead, probably the perfect combination to smoke spice, if you have the money), so I always use a normal bic.
I was told that you needed to use a torch and just point the flame at the copper wool of the machine. however I keep burning the material. I can adjust the airflow via a knob and make it more like a normal lighter.
My issue, and maybe this is just me, but how are you supposed to use a normal lighter on the machine. A torch is directional put I cannot get a normal lighter's flame to go sideways into hte machine without actually drawing hte flame into the copper wool. (you do hold the machine sideways right? Like a pipe?)
Sideways is not correct. The neck has to be pointing downwards. incogmagnito will disagree though. :) Regular lighter works just fine.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 14 July 2013, 23:05:06
What temp should I set my volcano digit at?

Have some of ChemCats DMT on the way!

I always set mine on full temp....The only thing that sucks is that I had to re-adjust the bag to where it was exactly 3 big lung fulls,because after holding in 2....it's all I can do to get that last inhale in before I am GONE.
I have a dmt bag and one for my herb now,because of the funky taste/smell That the dmt leaves behind,not a pleasant taste combo when I've got strawberry cough or sweet tooth that I can't taste over the burnt plastic aroma.
Good luck,
PEACE

There was a post few pages back where I dug out some info from clearnet on DMT vaping temperature is 160C, so setting at 180C should be enough. Also, many a person have mentioned that DMT vapes very quickly so there is no need to wait for the bag to get full - get it half full and here are your two lung fulls - voila!

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That's damn high. Why do you use it? For me it's either too high a normal torch lighter as the Arc for The Machine (it is perfect for the GVG instead, probably the perfect combination to smoke spice, if you have the money), so I always use a normal bic.
I was told that you needed to use a torch and just point the flame at the copper wool of the machine. however I keep burning the material. I can adjust the airflow via a knob and make it more like a normal lighter.
My issue, and maybe this is just me, but how are you supposed to use a normal lighter on the machine. A torch is directional put I cannot get a normal lighter's flame to go sideways into hte machine without actually drawing hte flame into the copper wool. (you do hold the machine sideways right? Like a pipe?)
Sideways is not correct. The neck has to be pointing downwards. incogmagnito will disagree though. :) Regular lighter works just fine.

I am easy on this, @dmtnexus :) One thing that I would say is that I have launched a number of people with just using normal bic lighter and them holding their machine sideways. All you need is not inhaling too fast and it works a treat. I think it is easier to do when you help another person as you can position the flame in the right place, while if you try to do it yourself it might be a lot harder
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 15 July 2013, 03:55:11
Supernaut has some e-cig formula.  It looks pretty legit.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 15 July 2013, 07:10:49
Hello, my beauteous scrumpets.  I have started a new thread to document my personal journey into the unknown (as much as is possible).  Interest in DMT tends to beget interest in mysticism, which is why I'm announcing this here.  Those interested can follow the link.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=184107.msg1336399#msg1336399
Love always, GGA
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: musichighlife on 15 July 2013, 07:51:34
Hello, my beauteous scrumpets.  I have started a new thread to document my personal journey into the unknown (as much as is possible).  Interest in DMT tends to beget interest in mysticism, which is why I'm announcing this here.  Those interested can follow the link.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=184107.msg1336399#msg1336399
Love always, GGA

Love the idea friend. My mystic journey began with psychedelics in general but has been exponential in growth since I have been journeying into hyperspace. I'll definitely be following. 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 15 July 2013, 10:21:45
My issue, and maybe this is just me, but how are you supposed to use a normal lighter on the machine. A torch is directional put I cannot get a normal lighter's flame to go sideways into hte machine without actually drawing hte flame into the copper wool. (you do hold the machine sideways right? Like a pipe?)

Different people have different preferences. The usual way to use The Machine is vertically, with the flame below the plug, but there are people that use it also as a pipe without problems. I tried both personally and I had no problem at all with using it like a pipe, but with a copper mesh maybe is not so prudent because if you are not attentive with your breath you risk of burning the spice.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 15 July 2013, 19:23:22
Tried the machine facing downwards, with a bic lighter, yesterday night. Much more effective. I still get a mild burnt taste and sore throat, but that's probably caused by remnants of burnt DMT from previous attempts.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 15 July 2013, 22:54:03
Tried the machine facing downwards, with a bic lighter, yesterday night. Much more effective. I still get a mild burnt taste and sore throat, but that's probably caused by remnants of burnt DMT from previous attempts.
Try splitting the difference, I had the same thing happen tilting down because I think some of it melted and ran with gravity. That's why I slightly roll while sipping so any that drops down goes back to the top. Don't stop get it get it!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Rainbow Snail on 16 July 2013, 10:48:45
Hey Brotherhood 8-)

Rainbow Snail has just finished extracting some fresh DMT!

Listings are up and they are the cheapest domestic listings in Australia (only shipping domestically)

There is a yellow batch and a really light yellow/white crystal batch.

The link to Rainbow Snail vendor profile should be listed at the bottom of this post.

get it while it's hot!

RS
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 16 July 2013, 13:07:51
A domestic Australian DMT vendor?

I'm sure the Aussie brothers will be extremely happy to know. It doesn't seem to me there are many around.
If I can give you a suggestion I would send some samples around to selected domestic buyers to have some reviews of your product and start a thread with your offers. I cannot help you for the review since I'm not from Australia but I'm sure there are many people around that can do this for you.

Best of luck for your business.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Theory on 16 July 2013, 13:08:57
Snail- what do u extract your dmt from MHRB? Acacia?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ExperienceAll on 17 July 2013, 17:09:58
What temp should I set my volcano digit at?

Have some of ChemCats DMT on the way!

I always set mine on full temp....The only thing that sucks is that I had to re-adjust the bag to where it was exactly 3 big lung fulls,because after holding in 2....it's all I can do to get that last inhale in before I am GONE.
I have a dmt bag and one for my herb now,because of the funky taste/smell That the dmt leaves behind,not a pleasant taste combo when I've got strawberry cough or sweet tooth that I can't taste over the burnt plastic aroma.
Good luck,
PEACE

So as long as you use different bags there is no taste left behind?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 17 July 2013, 18:46:16
I've had some questions in the past about how to fix the DMT taste in the volcano, this is just how i clean it, there could be many ways, but your problem is not the bag, but the chambers where the residual DMT is crystallizing on the walls and the moving pieces of the attachment.

When you heat it up again, it releases its residual flavor.

Here is the fix:

Easy =), well not super easy, but an easy fix for that nasty taste...

First take your entire chamber apart, including the part attached to the bag.  Once all the pieces apart are apart toss them in like 90% rubbing alcohol.

You have to unscrew the spring chamber to remove all the pieces.  It may be sticky if you have never cleaned it, so maybe soaking it first in rubbing alcohol will help.

Soak & rinse... the THC and he DMT will just start breaking down and wash off.  Keep doing this until there is no residue in the chamber or in the attachment piece.

After shake and air dry... i turn the volcano on 9 and run if for like 3-4 min because it gets so hot it evaporates the water.

Make sure there isn't a bunch of leftover water in the chamber or attachment as you don't want any to fall down into the volcano.

I am actually going to purchase a 2nd chamber so i wont have to actually clean it all that often, but it is good to maintain those pieces, cuz it can get really sticky sometimes!

GL, and lemme know if you have any other questions.

Edawg420
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 17 July 2013, 23:09:18
Excellent detailed advice - thank you, @edawg!!! +1
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 19 July 2013, 06:42:38
 :o Wow. Badass listing. My fav vendor of spice. http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/72304001de
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 19 July 2013, 07:18:13
Ahh, the one that told me to never bother because I on not on Linux and offered GGA cash to shut this thread down?
Nice chap he must be! :-)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 19 July 2013, 16:04:20
Any tips on trying to vape DMT in an Ecig, I've read all the nexus threads on such and I'm ready to try this technique.
Do you think this would work better with golden/yellow colored DMT or the whitestuff that people like fractalbliss offer?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 19 July 2013, 21:01:43
Any tips on trying to vape DMT in an Ecig, I've read all the nexus threads on such and I'm ready to try this technique.
Do you think this would work better with golden/yellow colored DMT or the whitestuff that people like fractalbliss offer?

There should be no difference on this, apart the obvious one of quality and type of effect (that's true for every smoking device). Freebase is freebase, there's not a difference in solubility or similar things.

Tell us how did it go. Since reading your posts it seems that you have never been able to vap properly the DMT with The Machine because you burned many times the freebase I think that the E-Cig will be a great improvement for you because with it there's absolutely no way to burn the spice ;)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: musichighlife on 19 July 2013, 22:01:29
Any tips on trying to vape DMT in an Ecig, I've read all the nexus threads on such and I'm ready to try this technique.
Do you think this would work better with golden/yellow colored DMT or the whitestuff that people like fractalbliss offer?

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/c3d2bba577

I just saw this listed and was really intrigued, supposed to be intended for using in an e-cig specifically. Anyone tried this before?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 20 July 2013, 00:39:30
Ahh, the one that told me to never bother because I on not on Linux and offered GGA cash to shut this thread down?
Nice chap he must be! :-)

Glad the GGA didn't take the cash. The relationships I have made on this thread (you included) have been an invaluable resource for spiritual growth. I know others here feel the same. I wish we could find a way to decriminalize spice as part of our individual spiritual paths short of religion.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 20 July 2013, 18:38:10
Quote
Tell us how did it go. Since reading your posts it seems that you have never been able to vap properly the DMT with The Machine because you burned many times the freebase I think that the E-Cig will be a great improvement for you because with it there's absolutely no way to burn the spice
Actually those atomizers can get pretty hot, but it seems to work nicley, not the most efficient method but it works well assuming you don't cigar the vapor.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: weed4me6969 on 20 July 2013, 18:57:56
Hello everyone! It has been a while since I have been on a journey, so i might have to get on that today...

Anyways I wanted to ask everyone a question.  Does anyone know of any TRUSTED vendors that sell btc at a very low or no rate?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 20 July 2013, 21:32:29
@ weed4me6969, well i am not sure many TRUSTED vendors will have services below 10%.  I saw a few for like 7.5% and less but they don't have much feedback and well i wouldn't trust $500+ transactions without some sort of following.

I actually just tried out MoneyHoney today, and they came through with style.  Still waiting on their second deposit, but I'm a believer.  This was  a great alternative to the broken bitinstant.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 21 July 2013, 01:29:04
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Anyways I wanted to ask everyone a question.  Does anyone know of any TRUSTED vendors that sell btc at a very low or no rate?
I always stick with smartcoin, his fees are pretty nice. $10 for up to $100, 20 for up to $300, so on so forth
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Stonedstupor on 21 July 2013, 08:07:45
shit localbitcoins guys. stop ignoring it and just try it. i found a guy doing wells fargo bank deposits, i put in $320 got $304 in coins. plus every transaction is in escrow.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 21 July 2013, 08:40:21
this is off topic, but i felt like this is the best thread to do this in.

MUCH LOVE TO MY FELLOW PSYCHONAUTS...., KEEP EXPLORING/BREAKING DOWN BOUNDARIES!!!

<3
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Great Green Arkleseizure on 21 July 2013, 22:55:09
this is off topic, but i felt like this is the best thread to do this in.

MUCH LOVE TO MY FELLOW PSYCHONAUTS...., KEEP EXPLORING/BREAKING DOWN BOUNDARIES!!!

<3

Not off-topic at all.  Much love to you too. +1
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ExperienceAll on 21 July 2013, 23:19:24
shit localbitcoins guys. stop ignoring it and just try it. i found a guy doing wells fargo bank deposits, i put in $320 got $304 in coins. plus every transaction is in escrow.

localbitcoins is all I have ever used and it always works beautifully.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: liquidator on 21 July 2013, 23:26:19
Hello, long time lurker, first time poster here.

I've read this thread from start to finish over the last few weeks and want to thank all contributors as I've learned so much about this wonderful molecule.

I'm new to the world of DMT but wanted to share my early experiences with you. I bought a pre-loaded machine from dmtnexus a few weeks ago and have also bought some freebase from Multi Exciter. I've seen both these vendors post in this thread so I want to thank you both for providing me with the keys to hyperspace!

My first experience was using the pre-loaded machine from dmtnexus. As I was a complete novice and wasn't really sure what I was doing, I didn't get the full hit but I did get some amazing visuals. There's no doubting the quality of the product, it was just my inexperience that prevented me from using it to its full potential. Anyway, the visuals were mindblowing and it was my first taste of DMT.

My next 8-9 experiences were using dmtnexus's machine but with Multi Exciter's product. The experiences were getting more and more intense as I got used to the machine, improved my vaping technique and got more comfortable with the molecule and the experience in general. I didn't 'breakthrough', but I was getting closer with each trip. Due to personal circumstances I had to have a break for a few weeks, still yet to achieve that elusive breakthrough.

Last week I had the opportunity to experiment some more, again with dmtnexus's machine and ME's product, and finally broke through! Over the evening I had maybe 5 breakthrough trips. What can I say? Words seem utterly futile when trying to explain the experience but it was worth the wait and did not disappoint. I encountered numerous entities, but they weren't what I was expecting. I read so much about 'elves' so was expecting little elfin creatures or leprechauns but what I met were much more 'alien' in appearance. Some had an Egyptian look about them, like Tutankhamun or something. Some were showing me the most unbelievable, impossibly beautiful patterns,  that were constantly changing. They were like magic tricks or illusions and it was like they were saying "I can do this and I can do this and I can do THIS" (which I know is similar to a McKenna description) and each time the pattern / illusion got more and more beautiful and layered.

On one of the trips a big, female entity (a goddess?) put her arm on me, which instantly felt calming and reassuring, and then plunged her head directly into mine and kept it there for most of the trip. I'm not sure if she was scanning my brain or depositing some knowledge in my head or what, but I felt completely at peace and calm throughout the whole experience. Towards the end of the trip I was aware of a big bowl or container of water. Something was trying to tip this container over or scoop and splash the water out of it. This kept on for a while until they finally managed to scoop some water out. As soon as this water left the container tears began to stream down my face. I was literally crying with joy and grinning like an idiot as I returned to my body :-D

The night ended on a slight anticlimax as my last two attempts at a trip resulted in what the lexicon calls a shut-out. I did everything the same as the earlier trips, and the trip started off in the normal fashion (time slowing down to a stop, room turning into a psychedelic jigsaw) but then nothing. I came back to Earth with a slight sense of disappointment but having reflected on it, I know it was the molecule's way of telling me "Don't be greedy, you've seen a LOT today. Take a step back, reflect on what you've learned, let it digest and come back another day. There's a lot more for you to see but we'll show you when the time's right"

So yeah, that's my story. Still very early days in my relationship with DMT but I look forward to more journeys.

TL;DR? - buy with confidence from dmtnexus and Multi Exciter, their product is the real deal!!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 22 July 2013, 18:12:52
^ Great experience report. Can't go wrong with one of my machines!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 22 July 2013, 18:25:15
Got my first good breakthrough yesterday night. I was on a good 300mcgs of LSD and my roommate convinced me to hit the pipe (the machine). I was afraid because I've gotten near a breakthrough dose before and it was pretty frightening.

However this time I started smoking it. I kept going and the action of lighting inhalling holding and exhaling became muscle memory, near the fourth hit I wasent even quite sure what I was doing. I did however find that I wound up with a lot of saliva on the pipe near the end, it was like kissing glass.

Then all of the sudden I sort of halfheartedly handed the pipe to my roomate, which was difficult as I didn't have much control of my limbs anymore.

Next thing I know I came too a few seconds later, I know I missed something important, but I CANNOT remember any of those few seconds. Afterwords thought I just rambled about how I wasent sure if I was high or not, or if I had actually gotten a hit or even smoked the DMT. All the while everything including my roomate's face had become a blue glowing wireframe. This faded into all my surroundings being comprised of flashing neon signs that said "WOW" and then after about 30 seconds they began to read "LSD"

I was very surprised at how 100% un-terrifying this experience was. It must have had to do with the LSD. However I'm a little perplexed about the missing few seconds and about the fact that there was no time distortion at all (which I have gotten with near breakthroughs while sober, and Have also gotten on 200mcg of LSD alone).
Lastly, there was an absence of any entities, machine eleves, aliens or the like for both myself and my roomate who hit it twice (both breakthrough levels) within 3 hours.

Afterwards once the DMT wore off I felt 100% clear headed but still had some nice LSD visuals. By 100% clear headed I mean that I was already past the LSD peak so I tend to think pretty clearly at that point anyway but I can still become distracted or obsessed (or distraught) with simple things. However, after the DMT I was more clearheaded than I normally am even sober. I could focus on things and even a crisis wouldent have sent me into a bad trip. My confidence and ego increased by about 3 fold for the next 2-3 hours though, which was pretty nice I guess. Managed to tell a lot of funny stories and in general be less bizarre than I normally am while tripping.


Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Has anyone else tried this combo?
Was it similar for you?
Were are the machine elves?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 22 July 2013, 21:58:39
I was very surprised at how 100% un-terrifying this experience was.

Hahaha loled IRL at that, i had a similar experience once, very calming, but when i look back.... WOW
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: soulkontroller on 23 July 2013, 03:11:57
Hi everyone.....nice to meet everyones acquaintance

To all DMT lovers  just wanted to let you know   .....we produce & ship DMTree

check my profile http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/cc61d2fb05

i currently have a sale for $30 for a gram of DMTree

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Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 24 July 2013, 03:20:58
What a karma giveaway this read has been!

+1s go to @ianflemming and @liquidator for great reports ... Ana congrats for those breakthroughs!!!
+1 to @wavelength, nice one - made me smile!
+1 to GGA for keeping us going and @princeblack for all of his support

I am sure you have all heard that @PPLLUURR has gone to the dark side! I think that GGA must have already removed him from the OP :-(

Be good!!!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 24 July 2013, 16:03:22
-post redacted-

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: liquidator on 24 July 2013, 20:37:46
^ Great experience report. Can't go wrong with one of my machines!

Definitely, once I got the hang of it after a bit of trial and error it works like a charm!

How often would you, or anyone else, suggest you need to clean the machine? I've smoked less than 1g through it in total and it's still working perfectly, but I expect I'll need to give it a clean at some point.

I'm a bit wary about taking the thing apart and not being able to put it back together! Any tips on cleaning it, what products to use etc... would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 24 July 2013, 21:01:49
^ Great experience report. Can't go wrong with one of my machines!

Definitely, once I got the hang of it after a bit of trial and error it works like a charm!

How often would you, or anyone else, suggest you need to clean the machine? I've smoked less than 1g through it in total and it's still working perfectly, but I expect I'll need to give it a clean at some point.

I'm a bit wary about taking the thing apart and not being able to put it back together! Any tips on cleaning it, what products to use etc... would be appreciated.
Pipe will still work if it's dirty! You can clean it with acetone/IPA, (preferably hot) vinegar or even Fairy. A brush is helpful. The copper plug may get clogged at some point though but so far, I've only had one person ask me for a replacement. As long as the DMT you smoke is white and you don't burn any, the plug will last a long time! It's just a piece of a burnt copper scourer and can be easily replaced.
I got a simple question about DMT for you all DMT chemists here :)

Is DMT an acidic compound? My chemistry-ignorant brain says most likely.

Would you guys, kindly, elaborate if that is so or not and why?

For easy reference - the chemical formula for DMT is C(12)N(2)H(16).


GSE
DMT is a basic compound. The pKa is 8.68 (basic). Acidic would be under 7.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: RaFaeL5 on 24 July 2013, 22:03:24
A good friend of mine was at a party this weekend,
and while I was there he decided to try changa for his 3rd or 4th time...
So he lies down and does everything as he should.
Takes the bong, takes the ride... and rides...
but, while being on the clouds, somehow, he loses control of his blather...

So, when he comes back he's pissed himself.
First he goes to change and then he comes to ask me: "is this normal?".
And, honestly, I can't answer to that question...
I'm like: "it never happened to me and I never heard of this" but I can't say if it happened to other people or not... no one ever mentioned it on this forum, nor on any other forum that I visited...

So, right now I'm thinking that he might have gotten some "bad" changa (too old, wrong combination of herbs, ...) but I can't say anything for sure.

Have any of you experienced this.
Do you know how it happens, why this happens?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 25 July 2013, 00:04:26
A good friend of mine was at a party this weekend,
and while I was there he decided to try changa for his 3rd or 4th time...
So he lies down and does everything as he should.
Takes the bong, takes the ride... and rides...
but, while being on the clouds, somehow, he loses control of his blather...

So, when he comes back he's pissed himself.
First he goes to change and then he comes to ask me: "is this normal?".
And, honestly, I can't answer to that question...
I'm like: "it never happened to me and I never heard of this" but I can't say if it happened to other people or not... no one ever mentioned it on this forum, nor on any other forum that I visited...

So, right now I'm thinking that he might have gotten some "bad" changa (too old, wrong combination of herbs, ...) but I can't say anything for sure.

Have any of you experienced this.
Do you know how it happens, why this happens?
'Wrong combination of herbs'? LOL. Seriously?! (I've been laughing for 5 minutes now.) If only I knew how to make this changa!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 25 July 2013, 00:23:20
"is this normal?".

yes it is. i have had a few experiences that i almost lost control of my bladder in the midst of a blast.

also, ive mentioned that that happened to me to a friend, and he told me that he always goes to the bathroom before he blasts for that reason..  ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 25 July 2013, 06:44:35
Hello, long time lurker, first time poster here.

I've read this thread from start to finish over the last few weeks and want to thank all contributors as I've learned so much about this wonderful molecule.

I'm new to the world of DMT but wanted to share my early experiences with you. I bought a pre-loaded machine from dmtnexus a few weeks ago and have also bought some freebase from Multi Exciter. I've seen both these vendors post in this thread so I want to thank you both for providing me with the keys to hyperspace!

My first experience was using the pre-loaded machine from dmtnexus. As I was a complete novice and wasn't really sure what I was doing, I didn't get the full hit but I did get some amazing visuals. There's no doubting the quality of the product, it was just my inexperience that prevented me from using it to its full potential. Anyway, the visuals were mindblowing and it was my first taste of DMT.

My next 8-9 experiences were using dmtnexus's machine but with Multi Exciter's product. The experiences were getting more and more intense as I got used to the machine, improved my vaping technique and got more comfortable with the molecule and the experience in general. I didn't 'breakthrough', but I was getting closer with each trip. Due to personal circumstances I had to have a break for a few weeks, still yet to achieve that elusive breakthrough.

Last week I had the opportunity to experiment some more, again with dmtnexus's machine and ME's product, and finally broke through! Over the evening I had maybe 5 breakthrough trips. What can I say? Words seem utterly futile when trying to explain the experience but it was worth the wait and did not disappoint. I encountered numerous entities, but they weren't what I was expecting. I read so much about 'elves' so was expecting little elfin creatures or leprechauns but what I met were much more 'alien' in appearance. Some had an Egyptian look about them, like Tutankhamun or something. Some were showing me the most unbelievable, impossibly beautiful patterns,  that were constantly changing. They were like magic tricks or illusions and it was like they were saying "I can do this and I can do this and I can do THIS" (which I know is similar to a McKenna description) and each time the pattern / illusion got more and more beautiful and layered.

On one of the trips a big, female entity (a goddess?) put her arm on me, which instantly felt calming and reassuring, and then plunged her head directly into mine and kept it there for most of the trip. I'm not sure if she was scanning my brain or depositing some knowledge in my head or what, but I felt completely at peace and calm throughout the whole experience. Towards the end of the trip I was aware of a big bowl or container of water. Something was trying to tip this container over or scoop and splash the water out of it. This kept on for a while until they finally managed to scoop some water out. As soon as this water left the container tears began to stream down my face. I was literally crying with joy and grinning like an idiot as I returned to my body :-D

The night ended on a slight anticlimax as my last two attempts at a trip resulted in what the lexicon calls a shut-out. I did everything the same as the earlier trips, and the trip started off in the normal fashion (time slowing down to a stop, room turning into a psychedelic jigsaw) but then nothing. I came back to Earth with a slight sense of disappointment but having reflected on it, I know it was the molecule's way of telling me "Don't be greedy, you've seen a LOT today. Take a step back, reflect on what you've learned, let it digest and come back another day. There's a lot more for you to see but we'll show you when the time's right"

So yeah, that's my story. Still very early days in my relationship with DMT but I look forward to more journeys.

TL;DR? - buy with confidence from dmtnexus and Multi Exciter, their product is the real deal!!


Word! +1 for sharing that. Tears of joy. Love it.
What a karma giveaway this read has been!

+1s go to @ianflemming and @liquidator for great reports ... Ana congrats for those breakthroughs!!!
+1 to @wavelength, nice one - made me smile!
+1 to GGA for keeping us going and @princeblack for all of his support

I am sure you have all heard that @PPLLUURR has gone to the dark side, so despite some great history with him it is clear that the guy is a scammer! I think that GGA must have already removed him from the OP :-(

Be good!!!

That last bit is a bummer. I kept checking his lists to try to get some JOR acid finally and saw he was only selling H. That was quite a while ago but it gave me a strange feeling. Radical shift. I think i just talked myself out of Hyperspace tonight but the launchpad is being prepped...
A good friend of mine was at a party this weekend,
and while I was there he decided to try changa for his 3rd or 4th time...
So he lies down and does everything as he should.
Takes the bong, takes the ride... and rides...
but, while being on the clouds, somehow, he loses control of his blather...

So, when he comes back he's pissed himself.
First he goes to change and then he comes to ask me: "is this normal?".
And, honestly, I can't answer to that question...
I'm like: "it never happened to me and I never heard of this" but I can't say if it happened to other people or not... no one ever mentioned it on this forum, nor on any other forum that I visited...

So, right now I'm thinking that he might have gotten some "bad" changa (too old, wrong combination of herbs, ...) but I can't say anything for sure.

Have any of you experienced this.
Do you know how it happens, why this happens?
'Wrong combination of herbs'? LOL. Seriously?! (I've been laughing for 5 minutes now.) If only I knew how to make this changa!
Almost happened to me too, thx for the belly laugh.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bodnostrokulum on 25 July 2013, 08:47:43
Hello, long time lurker, first time poster here.

I've read this thread from start to finish over the last few weeks and want to thank all contributors as I've learned so much about this wonderful molecule.

I'm new to the world of DMT but wanted to share my early experiences with you. I bought a pre-loaded machine from dmtnexus a few weeks ago and have also bought some freebase from Multi Exciter. I've seen both these vendors post in this thread so I want to thank you both for providing me with the keys to hyperspace!

My first experience was using the pre-loaded machine from dmtnexus. As I was a complete novice and wasn't really sure what I was doing, I didn't get the full hit but I did get some amazing visuals. There's no doubting the quality of the product, it was just my inexperience that prevented me from using it to its full potential. Anyway, the visuals were mindblowing and it was my first taste of DMT.

My next 8-9 experiences were using dmtnexus's machine but with Multi Exciter's product. The experiences were getting more and more intense as I got used to the machine, improved my vaping technique and got more comfortable with the molecule and the experience in general. I didn't 'breakthrough', but I was getting closer with each trip. Due to personal circumstances I had to have a break for a few weeks, still yet to achieve that elusive breakthrough.

Last week I had the opportunity to experiment some more, again with dmtnexus's machine and ME's product, and finally broke through! Over the evening I had maybe 5 breakthrough trips. What can I say? Words seem utterly futile when trying to explain the experience but it was worth the wait and did not disappoint. I encountered numerous entities, but they weren't what I was expecting. I read so much about 'elves' so was expecting little elfin creatures or leprechauns but what I met were much more 'alien' in appearance. Some had an Egyptian look about them, like Tutankhamun or something. Some were showing me the most unbelievable, impossibly beautiful patterns,  that were constantly changing. They were like magic tricks or illusions and it was like they were saying "I can do this and I can do this and I can do THIS" (which I know is similar to a McKenna description) and each time the pattern / illusion got more and more beautiful and layered.

On one of the trips a big, female entity (a goddess?) put her arm on me, which instantly felt calming and reassuring, and then plunged her head directly into mine and kept it there for most of the trip. I'm not sure if she was scanning my brain or depositing some knowledge in my head or what, but I felt completely at peace and calm throughout the whole experience. Towards the end of the trip I was aware of a big bowl or container of water. Something was trying to tip this container over or scoop and splash the water out of it. This kept on for a while until they finally managed to scoop some water out. As soon as this water left the container tears began to stream down my face. I was literally crying with joy and grinning like an idiot as I returned to my body :-D

The night ended on a slight anticlimax as my last two attempts at a trip resulted in what the lexicon calls a shut-out. I did everything the same as the earlier trips, and the trip started off in the normal fashion (time slowing down to a stop, room turning into a psychedelic jigsaw) but then nothing. I came back to Earth with a slight sense of disappointment but having reflected on it, I know it was the molecule's way of telling me "Don't be greedy, you've seen a LOT today. Take a step back, reflect on what you've learned, let it digest and come back another day. There's a lot more for you to see but we'll show you when the time's right"

So yeah, that's my story. Still very early days in my relationship with DMT but I look forward to more journeys.

TL;DR? - buy with confidence from dmtnexus and Multi Exciter, their product is the real deal!!

+1

awesome report man !
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: RaFaeL5 on 25 July 2013, 11:04:08
thx guys for the reactions...
I'll tel him when I see him again (and in the meanwhile I'll remember also for myself to first go to the toilet before taking changa/dmt).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: liquidator on 25 July 2013, 19:33:58
Pipe will still work if it's dirty! You can clean it with acetone/IPA, (preferably hot) vinegar or even Fairy. A brush is helpful. The copper plug may get clogged at some point though but so far, I've only had one person ask me for a replacement. As long as the DMT you smoke is white and you don't burn any, the plug will last a long time! It's just a piece of a burnt copper scourer and can be easily replaced.


Thanks for the response. I've got a feeling your machine's going to get a lot of use so it's good to know they're built to last!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 26 July 2013, 09:14:38
I am back with a fresh report and all I can say is I love each and everyone of you. We are blessed to have each other. Love your people and the life in you fully as you can.

Glimpse of Heaven
60mg Moon Unit's tan spice I had set aside.
Midnight July 26

Wow and thank you for my beautiful complicated life. Every moment every mistake every success. Thank you to the one I call God and the protector you have sent me. She is beautiful and you have a great sense of humor.

On July 3rd I was the victim of armed robbery and life has been one spiritual struggle since. Every bit of hatred and prejudice has crept through its careful compartments. I have done my best to come to terms with the fear and reintegrate from the trauma and defeat the fear and hate. 

As I drew in the DMT I could tell I was only taking one hit. As it hit the room filled with the machine elves. I closed my eyes quickly. It felt as if my breath stopped. Marble in the throat and BAM I was thrust back through time. It was the moment of the robbery and I had just been killed. I watched them run away from my body on the street. All memories up to today were form of purgatory. Experiences lived out to work through some issues. A dream, a bad joke and the day the dead me does the DMT in purgatory is when reality shifts. I thought most of my children, This moment I realized I might become a ghost in my house as i opened my eyes to see reality shifting. Translucent tentacles pulling at the fabric of time. My kids without a dad. My wife without me and all our plans and the ongoing projects. Time ripped apart. I felt an infinite sorrow like non for their pain. I closed my eyes again to pray for them and I was transported to the opening of a dimensional portal.

I thought if I was actually dying this was the one last opportunity to pray, to speak my name and ask for safe passage. My guardian was there as if she delivered me to this place. I could sense love and compassion. I said "Please let me into heaven. I Love you. Please let (my name) into heaven. Please. It was as if the portal itself were a being. God could hear me through the portal. I could see my words being absorbed into it. My guardian seemed to laugh "of course why all the suspense?" The portal was white and misty as it opened. I went into a space that was like a fractal garden of flowers full of life-force. It seemed omnipresent feeling my thoughts. I knew I had to let go of my life and dissolve myself into this place. I prepared to let go and face the possibility of nothingness or of becoming absorbed into a larger energy. AS the meditation here went on and the vision dimmed I became aware of my breath. MY BREATH!!!! I AM ALIVE!!!!

I fell into tears of joy shouting thank you! I love you. I love you everyone. Every moment I love you. Thank you universe for that shitty face off my daughter and I had all summer. thank you for letting me hold my babies again. Forgiving my robbers and praying for them. I literally wept on my knees for 30 minutes interspersed  with shouts of gratitude and jumping for joy for every moment of life I am graced with and feeling not so hopeless about what comes after.

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 26 July 2013, 10:25:57
^^

+1

Maybe I'll grow a pair and try DMT this weekend.  If I do DMT and then candyflip after, will the DMT lessen the LSD?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: RaFaeL5 on 26 July 2013, 10:30:52
^^

+1

Maybe I'll grow a pair and try DMT this weekend.  If I do DMT and then candyflip after, will the DMT lessen the LSD?

No, but do the DMT while on LSD...that'll be "better" and you'll have a more enjoyable/deep/enlightening experience (the LSD takes away a lot of the "fear" towards the transformative energy of DMT)...
let us know how it went!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 26 July 2013, 14:49:42
Brotha man, I've gone over 100+ times and i am still always nervous.  Just relax, put some chill music on(preferably without  words) and as dumb as it sounds meditate and concentrate in silence about the journey you are about to embark on.

Trust me, you than us all later.


Edawg40
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 26 July 2013, 17:52:35
Brotha man, I've gone over 100+ times and i am still always nervous.

for sure, my first psyche experience was a blast off, and ive done it quite a few times since then.

every single time i get the "pre blast jitters" and my adrenaline starts going crazy, unless im on a substance like mxe that tends to calm your nerves.

dmt doesnt cause much of a tolerance for anything in my experience, but i definitely agree with what was said earlier. (do dmt and lsd together)

now on the other hand, dmt on mdma has always made the experience purely euphoric and extremely unimpressive visually... so im not sure how the candyflip would go....

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 26 July 2013, 18:42:13
@ GoodShitExplorer and  wavelength, i luv you guys hope to see u in hyperspace =P +1 all around
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 26 July 2013, 21:44:52
@ GoodShitExplorer and  wavelength, i luv you guys hope to see u in hyperspace =P +1 all around


Based on my understanding of how DMT works in our body I think drinking lemon juice 15-30 minutes prior would intensify your trip further. I am unable to test this hypothesis at the moment. I am about a month away from my next DMT trip.

Would you be able to test this hypothesis during your next few trips, please?

GSE


Very interesting one ... How much of a juice one needs to drink (it is not the most enjoyable of drinks unless it can be taken as a lemonade :))? What suggested to you that this would intensify the trip? I am really curious about the theory behind this. I wonder if taking it with a tea would work too (I like that combo).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 27 July 2013, 09:39:18
@ GoodShitExplorer and  wavelength, i luv you guys hope to see u in hyperspace =P +1 all around


Based on my understanding of how DMT works in our body I think drinking lemon juice 15-30 minutes prior would intensify your trip further. I am unable to test this hypothesis at the moment. I am about a month away from my next DMT trip.

Would you be able to test this hypothesis during your next few trips, please?

GSE


Very interesting one ... How much of a juice one needs to drink (it is not the most enjoyable of drinks unless it can be taken as a lemonade :))? What suggested to you that this would intensify the trip? I am really curious about the theory behind this. I wonder if taking it with a tea would work too (I like that combo).

I would suggest 2 normal size fresh lemons to squeeze to make juice. The fact that lemon juice is alkalizing for our body and I think this helps intensify any psychedelic trips. I would stay away from the tea to mix with lemon juice as it has two main effects; 1) I think it's acidic for our body, so, it might cancel some alkalizing effects of lemon juice and 2) it is a central nervous system stimulant and thus you do not want your whole nervous system to be overactive when you are tripping on psychedelics.

I could be totally wrong in all these hypotheses. But as far as my knowledge of human health goes I think these would work as I mentioned.

Hope this helps.


GSE


Nice one, GSE! +1
My only concern would be heartburn :-)
I might be able to try it in the next couple of weeks ... Would this work with all psychedelics or only DMT given that it is alkaline?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: brokentoes on 27 July 2013, 14:17:31
been lemon-teking my shroom trips lately - basically grinding up mush into powder, mixing with fresh squeezed lemon juice, let it in a glass for 20+mins and shoot it back.

everything comes on a little faster, more intense peak, and seems to pass through my system quicker so sleep comes easily.

seems the science behind it is creating similar conditions to your stomach and letting the lemon juice do the work before you chug it back. more alkaloids get extracted in the glass, so your stomach has very little to do, and can just absorb the good stuff immediately.


never tried lemon juice with lsd or dmt, or any other psychedelics though.. curious :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 27 July 2013, 16:30:34
I am back with a fresh report and all I can say is I love each and everyone of you. We are blessed to have each other. Love your people and the life in you fully as you can.

Glimpse of Heaven
60mg Moon Unit's tan spice I had set aside.
Midnight July 26

Wow and thank you for my beautiful complicated life. Every moment every mistake every success. Thank you to the one I call God and the protector you have sent me. She is beautiful and you have a great sense of humor.

On July 3rd I was the victim of armed robbery and life has been one spiritual struggle since. Every bit of hatred and prejudice has crept through its careful compartments. I have done my best to come to terms with the fear and reintegrate from the trauma and defeat the fear and hate. 

As I drew in the DMT I could tell I was only taking one hit. As it hit the room filled with the machine elves. I closed my eyes quickly. It felt as if my breath stopped. Marble in the throat and BAM I was thrust back through time. It was the moment of the robbery and I had just been killed. I watched them run away from my body on the street. All memories up to today were form of purgatory. Experiences lived out to work through some issues. A dream, a bad joke and the day the dead me does the DMT in purgatory is when reality shifts. I thought most of my children, This moment I realized I might become a ghost in my house as i opened my eyes to see reality shifting. Translucent tentacles pulling at the fabric of time. My kids without a dad. My wife without me and all our plans and the ongoing projects. Time ripped apart. I felt an infinite sorrow like non for their pain. I closed my eyes again to pray for them and I was transported to the opening of a dimensional portal.

I thought if I was actually dying this was the one last opportunity to pray, to speak my name and ask for safe passage. My guardian was there as if she delivered me to this place. I could sense love and compassion. I said "Please let me into heaven. I Love you. Please let (my name) into heaven. Please. It was as if the portal itself were a being. God could hear me through the portal. I could see my words being absorbed into it. My guardian seemed to laugh "of course why all the suspense?" The portal was white and misty as it opened. I went into a space that was like a fractal garden of flowers full of life-force. It seemed omnipresent feeling my thoughts. I knew I had to let go of my life and dissolve myself into this place. I prepared to let go and face the possibility of nothingness or of becoming absorbed into a larger energy. AS the meditation here went on and the vision dimmed I became aware of my breath. MY BREATH!!!! I AM ALIVE!!!!

I fell into tears of joy shouting thank you! I love you. I love you everyone. Every moment I love you. Thank you universe for that shitty face off my daughter and I had all summer. thank you for letting me hold my babies again. Forgiving my robbers and praying for them. I literally wept on my knees for 30 minutes interspersed  with shouts of gratitude and jumping for joy for every moment of life I am graced with and feeling not so hopeless about what comes after.


+10 for being able to bring it all so well together! Quite inspiring actually.
I will try to remember to pay you back in installments of 1 per 3 days :)
Good to have you here and sharing this ...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: liquidator on 27 July 2013, 16:48:59

dmt doesnt cause much of a tolerance for anything in my experience, but i definitely agree with what was said earlier. (do dmt and lsd together)

now on the other hand, dmt on mdma has always made the experience purely euphoric and extremely unimpressive visually... so im not sure how the candyflip would go....

Has anyone tried DMT on a candyflip?

In the next couple of weeks I'll have the opportunity to do some more experimenting. I've never candyflipped before so was going to try that as I've only heard good things about it, but from reading the replies here DMT and LSD on its own seems to be recommended.

I only have one tab of acid so not sure whether to candyflip or try it on its own with DMT. If anyone has any experience of DMT + candyflip please share.

Decisions, decisions....
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 27 July 2013, 16:58:37

dmt doesnt cause much of a tolerance for anything in my experience, but i definitely agree with what was said earlier. (do dmt and lsd together)

now on the other hand, dmt on mdma has always made the experience purely euphoric and extremely unimpressive visually... so im not sure how the candyflip would go....

Has anyone tried DMT on a candyflip?

In the next couple of weeks I'll have the opportunity to do some more experimenting. I've never candyflipped before so was going to try that as I've only heard good things about it, but from reading the replies here DMT and LSD on its own seems to be recommended.

I only have one tab of acid so not sure whether to candyflip or try it on its own with DMT. If anyone has any experience of DMT + candyflip please share.

Decisions, decisions....

there are lots of people who report good things about candyflip and DMT, but the best regimen I am finding time to test is
T:    LSD
when feeling first drop off peak - 2CB
2CB +2:00 - MDMA
when feeling drop in roll - GHB

Apparently DMT is best taken while on LSD or 2CB, but I am still selling for what I bought ... lets compare notes few weeks from now? :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 27 July 2013, 17:56:00
Quote
Has anyone tried DMT on a candyflip?
I've smoked it from a machine while on LSD, it was in no way scary and felt less enlightening but more fun and visual. It turned the DMT experience into more a recreational one. also afterwards I still had LSD visuals but all LSD head-space was removed and instead replaced with an incredible level of confidence and well being that lasted over 2 days.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Tessellated on 27 July 2013, 17:58:48
^^

+1

Maybe I'll grow a pair and try DMT this weekend.  If I do DMT and then candyflip after, will the DMT lessen the LSD?

No, but do the DMT while on LSD...that'll be "better" and you'll have a more enjoyable/deep/enlightening experience (the LSD takes away a lot of the "fear" towards the transformative energy of DMT)...
let us know how it went!

I agree. LSD relaxes me as I smoke the DMT and I have a much nicer trip. When I come back the LSD seems supercharged for an hour or so.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: liquidator on 28 July 2013, 22:28:29

there are lots of people who report good things about candyflip and DMT, but the best regimen I am finding time to test is
T:    LSD
when feeling first drop off peak - 2CB
2CB +2:00 - MDMA
when feeling drop in roll - GHB

Apparently DMT is best taken while on LSD or 2CB, but I am still selling for what I bought ... lets compare notes few weeks from now? :)

Yes good idea! :) I'd love to hear how your combination works out. I don't have any 2CB so I think I'll start off with a couple of straight DMT trips, just because it's been a while. Then I plan do do the following:

T: LSD
T + 1:00(ish): MDMA
T + 3:00: More DMT (assuming I can focus enough to hold the machine!)

I've smoked it from a machine while on LSD, it was in no way scary and felt less enlightening but more fun and visual. It turned the DMT experience into more a recreational one. also afterwards I still had LSD visuals but all LSD head-space was removed and instead replaced with an incredible level of confidence and well being that lasted over 2 days.

Thanks for your response, I really like the sound of that! It'll be interesting to see what effect adding MDMA to the equation has. I will report back in the next couple of weeks :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 29 July 2013, 23:49:52
Hello GGA, hello Deemsters!

I am new into DMT, I started testing this month first time. I never followed this thread because I was scared by how big it is. Yesterday and today I decided to start reading it from the beginning and I am only in page 30. I will say one more time how amazing this forums are, but I will focus for a moment into this specific thread. It's golden! A big thanks to GGA and all the people I have met through this topic. I am giving karma to a lot of people in here because once again it's a magnificent thread!!

For almost all "newbies" it is usual to make couple tries before they can succeed in 'breaking through'. I myself am such a newbie. I don't want to put my unsuccessful story here because I have typed it in a long text.

 I started a thread before 2 weeks and kept analyzing all the details. I think it can actually be good, full with small details and mistakes that are needed for people who are about to start experiment with DMT.
I just posted my last try and honestly I have no clue what I do wrong.

I would really appreciate it if you could help. This is the message where I describe my today's try.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=179972.msg1391229#msg1391229

Keep on the good job people! I really love you!

Adamiz
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 30 July 2013, 06:25:48
Hello GGA, hello Deemsters!

I am new into DMT, I started testing this month first time. I never followed this thread because I was scared by how big it is. Yesterday and today I decided to start reading it from the beginning and I am only in page 30. I will say one more time how amazing this forums are, but I will focus for a moment into this specific thread. It's golden! A big thanks to GGA and all the people I have met through this topic. I am giving karma to a lot of people in here because once again it's a magnificent thread!!

For almost all "newbies" it is usual to make couple tries before they can succeed in 'breaking through'. I myself am such a newbie. I don't want to put my unsuccessful story here because I have typed it in a long text.

 I started a thread before 2 weeks and kept analyzing all the details. I think it can actually be good, full with small details and mistakes that are needed for people who are about to start experiment with DMT.
I just posted my last try and honestly I have no clue what I do wrong.

I would really appreciate it if you could help. This is the message where I describe my today's try.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=179972.msg1391229#msg1391229

Keep on the good job people! I really love you!

Adamiz

Cool! Glad u are here. When this thread found me I read everything too. GGA does a great job of putting the most needed info in the OP. Funny how you will come across all those basic questions deep in the thread. Great stuff all through.

there are lots of people who report good things about candyflip and DMT, but the best regimen I am finding time to test is
T:    LSD
when feeling first drop off peak - 2CB
2CB +2:00 - MDMA
when feeling drop in roll - GHB

Apparently DMT is best taken while on LSD or 2CB, but I am still selling for what I bought ... lets compare notes few weeks from now? :)

Yes good idea! :) I'd love to hear how your combination works out. I don't have any 2CB so I think I'll start off with a couple of straight DMT trips, just because it's been a while. Then I plan do do the following:

T: LSD
T + 1:00(ish): MDMA
T + 3:00: More DMT (assuming I can focus enough to hold the machine!)

I dig Incogmagnetos regimen, if you can get ahold of some good 2cb on SR it is the perfect link, agreat connective synergy. I like it after MDMA myself. Helps mood issues and promotes a good afterglow coming back. I have enjoyed low dose(10-12mg) 2cb and DMT on the downslope.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 30 July 2013, 15:12:45
Thanks incogmagnito for your answer. Will try and use all the info I have for the next try. But I will stick to 25mg per dose.

Will update if anything goes better.

All the best,

Adamiz
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: liquidator on 30 July 2013, 17:31:06
I dig Incogmagnetos regimen, if you can get ahold of some good 2cb on SR it is the perfect link, agreat connective synergy. I like it after MDMA myself. Helps mood issues and promotes a good afterglow coming back. I have enjoyed low dose(10-12mg) 2cb and DMT on the downslope.

Thanks, I'll look into this. My next experiment may be around this time next week, so I'll look on SR and see what domestic 2cb's out there.

I echo Adamiz's sentiments that these forums and this thread in particular are such an important resource of information. It's such a great community here and I respect and am thankful to all contributors. If I knew how to give karma I'd be giving it out left, right and centre, but I think I might be too much of a n00b at the moment! :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: liquidator on 30 July 2013, 17:47:51

For almost all "newbies" it is usual to make couple tries before they can succeed in 'breaking through'. I myself am such a newbie. I don't want to put my unsuccessful story here because I have typed it in a long text.

 I started a thread before 2 weeks and kept analyzing all the details. I think it can actually be good, full with small details and mistakes that are needed for people who are about to start experiment with DMT.
I just posted my last try and honestly I have no clue what I do wrong.

I would really appreciate it if you could help. This is the message where I describe my today's try.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=179972.msg1391229#msg1391229

Keep on the good job people! I really love you!

Adamiz

Hi adamiz

I know how frustrating it can be when you're trying to get your first breakthrough. It took me probably 10 or more attempts before I finally nailed it, as I've explained earlier in this thread.

I found that doing some deep breathing exercises for about 2 minutes before taking a hit really helped me, and it sounds obvious but before you take the first hit from the machine, make sure your lungs are empty by exhaling as much as you can. This allows you to take in a big lungful of vapour. Hold it in for at least 15 seconds, then repeat. I find that I can now breakthrough (most of the time) from just 2 deep hits.

I also found that holding the machine properly vertical rather than at a slight angle improved the vaping of the DMT, but others may have different views on this.

It's easier to say than do, but try not to focus too much on breaking through. If that's on your mind the whole time then it's harder to let go, if that makes sense. Just keep trying, be patient, vary your technique until you're comfortable with the whole process, do your breathing exercises beforehand and you'll get there in the end. And it'll be worth the wait, believe me :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Boostedh on 30 July 2013, 17:53:32
Just chiming in real quick....The new DMT vendor DeemzBeemz is one fantastic vendor.  Excellent customer service, and the product is top notch, if not the best.  Would recommend him to anyone wanting to get some DMT.  His shipping to me was 1 day, and he offers free shipping.  Should check him out
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 30 July 2013, 18:25:24
Hi adamiz

I know how frustrating it can be when you're trying to get your first breakthrough. It took me probably 10 or more attempts before I finally nailed it, as I've explained earlier in this thread.

I found that doing some deep breathing exercises for about 2 minutes before taking a hit really helped me, and it sounds obvious but before you take the first hit from the machine, make sure your lungs are empty by exhaling as much as you can. This allows you to take in a big lungful of vapour. Hold it in for at least 15 seconds, then repeat. I find that I can now breakthrough (most of the time) from just 2 deep hits.

I also found that holding the machine properly vertical rather than at a slight angle improved the vaping of the DMT, but others may have different views on this.

It's easier to say than do, but try not to focus too much on breaking through. If that's on your mind the whole time then it's harder to let go, if that makes sense. Just keep trying, be patient, vary your technique until you're comfortable with the whole process, do your breathing exercises beforehand and you'll get there in the end. And it'll be worth the wait, believe me :)

Well, every time I try, I do some breath exercises but it's true I never thought about really emptying my lungs. Good advice!
I don't focus soo much in breaking through although this is my goal. I can say I enjoy those 10 minutes tripping but still I want to experience the deeper feeling everyone is talking about. I did again today a 20mg try just to practice my technique with my common visuals.
Would try again this night but instead I will dive into small amount of whiskey and in the arms of a girl that I am seeing lately and try to breakthrough in her with  my senses and feelings..
Being really into substances the last month and have become just a bit antisocial. And socializing is my main passion :)

My lady, here I come! Dmt, unfortunately you come second today :)

Talk to you guys another day.

Adamiz
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 31 July 2013, 04:19:12
Okey, here I come again, trying to get you mad with small silly  questions.  :D :D
By the way all went smooth with my lady just in case anyone is curious. (Irrelevant!)

Again I tried another time with dmt. I will not spam this lovely thread with unnecessary text, so If you feel like reading my new session/try to breakthrough and help me with my questions, please take some minutes reading my post in my thread about failed attempts.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=179972.msg1395753#msg1395753

Love and respect,

Adamiz
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 31 July 2013, 15:26:47
Okey, here I come again, trying to get you mad with small silly  questions.  :D :D
By the way all went smooth with my lady just in case anyone is curious. (Irrelevant!)

Again I tried another time with dmt. I will not spam this lovely thread with unnecessary text, so If you feel like reading my new session/try to breakthrough and help me with my questions, please take some minutes reading my post in my thread about failed attempts.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=179972.msg1395753#msg1395753

Love and respect,

Adamiz

I feel that your ego is not sure about ego death that is most probably will happen in breakthru and hence all of these hesitations, waits, 10 seconds to rebreath, etc ... When you really want to go there you will be able to quickly take enough to launch you in. Hesitation and wait will simply keep you in your visual 'comfort zone' :)

I am not going to lie to you - it is scary first time, but it is an amazing experience, so decide for yourself if you want to go there. I am now convinced that it is not a matter of technique with you.
Best of luck,
IM
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 31 July 2013, 16:01:32
I feel that your ego is not sure about ego death that is most probably will happen in breakthru and hence all of these hesitations, waits, 10 seconds to rebreath, etc ... When you really want to go there you will be able to quickly take enough to launch you in. Hesitation and wait will simply keep you in your visual 'comfort zone' :)

I am not going to lie to you - it is scary first time, but it is an amazing experience, so decide for yourself if you want to go there. I am now convinced that it is not a matter of technique with you.
Best of luck,
IM

I hear you my friend. Yes, especially last night I had this feeling. Challenging it was a way of my ego to say no maybe. Or it was a self criticism for my breathing abilities. Don't know
As for the waits, I asked if I had the "time" for some seconds because I am not able to inhale so long. The feeling of couching always comes up.
Inhalations seems to be very hard for me. People talk about 15-30 seconds which I find at this point at least, impossible. Never succeeded in taking more than 10 seconds.  Although I know my lung capacity can get some more, I stop because I am ready to cough. Sometimes I even stop inhaling when I feel like coughing, pause 1-2 seconds and then continue the toke.

I cannot say that I am ready or not for the breakthrough cause honestly I don't know how it is. I try my best though. Mentally I believe I am in a good level to accept it, but my problem I believe is still physically. My throat can't cooperate. Always had difficulty when it comes to inhale something except fresh air..

Any advices to enhance the inhalation process?

Thanks for your thoughts, will think about what you said about my ego. The truth is that the last year, some experiences in real life have made it so that I finally started to love myself, so maybe what you say is true. But still, "upgrading" is always wanted and pursued.
 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 01 August 2013, 05:44:34
@princeblack, thank you.
When do you take 2CB in your MDMA roll?
Have you tried GHB to improve mood situation after MDMA?
IM

I wait until the roll is receding. The nice warm bodyload returns a bit but with that 2cb energy for the afterglow. 2cb is so versatile and friendly. I have kinda taken to it by itself or mixed with 4HO_MIPT which has more erotic potential than MDMA (and er functionality  ;)  ) I have never used GBH. Passing interest in K though but have not tried it either. I have wondered about how it would combine with DMT after reading GGA's post about blending with MXE.

Really beyond the chem_combos I really want to make a nice changa with some heavily NMT containing acacia spice blended with some other MHRB spice. Been looking for Caapi leaf but even on the clearnet USA vendors have nothing I have come across. Usually out of stock. I am wondering if passionflower 10x extract would carry some enhancing effect. I have some syrian rue but I really can't afford the time to attempt an extraction.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bodnostrokulum on 01 August 2013, 07:28:49
Hi guys
i wanted to share a few words on Dutch Pride 's Gold DMT freebase.
Man this stuff is strong, im experienced in various psychedelics, with my strongest ''trips' were from IV large doses of ketamine and i can say this dmt blowed my mind on a very new levels ...
I dont recommend it for newbies.
Thank you Dutch Pride for sharing this magic with us.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: jonk430 on 01 August 2013, 16:04:56
DMTNEXUS was a really nice vendor....hes new but a pleasure to deal with! product was great and shipping was super fast
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 01 August 2013, 16:16:35
2. how deep does your brillo go into the bottle neck - it should not go more than a centimeter (and even that might be too much). if it goes too deep then DMT instead of vaping might escape from your light to further away/cooler parts of the brillo and stay there, so your actual intake is a lot lower than what you load into it

The brillo shouldn't go more than 1cm into the neck?  That's very little.  Just want to be sure I understand properly.

Does anyone have a pic or video of somebody using the machine?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 01 August 2013, 18:06:16
2. how deep does your brillo go into the bottle neck - it should not go more than a centimeter (and even that might be too much). if it goes too deep then DMT instead of vaping might escape from your light to further away/cooler parts of the brillo and stay there, so your actual intake is a lot lower than what you load into it

The brillo shouldn't go more than 1cm into the neck?  That's very little.  Just want to be sure I understand properly.

Does anyone have a pic or video of somebody using the machine?
I put enough copper mesh to fill half of the neck of the machine. So far I've only had 2 complaints about there being too much mesh. More mesh is better if you load multiple hits into the machine; if you will only load 50mg at a time, put less. The reason incogmagnito is suggesting it though is because he uses the pipe horizontally. Heat goes up, not sideways, so with his method you must use as little mesh as possible.

EDIT: A curious email I just received (Xanax and DMT combo).
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My mate hammers xanax and we found out having 1 half hour before made it like twice as strong. Ov because the benzo stops the body fighting it.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 02 August 2013, 00:14:39
Thanks everyone.

I gave the machine a more serious try tonight.  I tried several times.  If I heat up the mesh too long then the DMT burns but I know I didn't burn all of the DMT because some of my last hits definitely made me feel funny but no visuals or anything.

I think my mesh is too long so next time I'll make it shorter.  I condensed enough mesh this time such that it was hard to get it into the machine but even still DMT was falling through the mesh when I was loading it.  I just took what fell through and sprinkled it back on top a few times.

I haven't had any luck finding Chore Boy brand mesh but I'll keep looking.  Update: Found copper chore boy.  Unlike the last mesh this one doesn't fall apart after being heated on the stove.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: slirp on 02 August 2013, 08:37:24
oh I'm probably supposed to load the DMT into the mesh while the mesh is already in the bottle?  Just realized that.

Can't wait to try this again.  I got this sensation from my first try that is hard to describe.  Almost euphoric.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: TheIndigoChild on 02 August 2013, 09:44:49
I look forward to sending out samples of my DMT once it's finished (: I hope you guys like beautiful clean white crystals !
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 02 August 2013, 09:56:45
oh I'm probably supposed to load the DMT into the mesh while the mesh is already in the bottle?  Just realized that.

You can also charge the mesh with DMT before if you want (there are also people that dilute the DMT in vinegar or similar, usually 100mg/1ml and then charge the mesh with that solution). In any case the DMT should melt inside the brillo for best results.

I also use The Machine horizontally both for "relaxation reasons" as Incog and both because I'm accustomed to a GVG/VG. If you use The Machine horizontally the toke is the most important part since you use your breath to bring the heat inside.

It's true that heat goes upwards and not sideways, but the toke is there for this: you "force" heat to be sucked inside and the amount of heat is decided by yourself with how much (or how little) you toke. Differently from Incog, however, I prefer to use a normal lighter just because of this: a torch lighter doesn't permit an arching of the flame as a normal lighter does, so in this case it is more a matter of rightly directing the heat more than using breath to do the same.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DeemzBeemz on 02 August 2013, 10:18:36
Thank you Boostedh for posting those kind words. I am a new DMT vendor here and I would like to challenge ALL of SR to a DMT showdown. I want to know for sure who has the purest of all DMT so I would like to propose that someone get samples from many DMT vendors all at once and review them based on comparison.

I honestly believe I make the purest DMT of anyone here. I always have the go to DMT at festivals. I'm sorry to brag, I just really like competition. ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 02 August 2013, 15:43:11
Hands down the best DMT i have smoked was made by KidCasio, may he be safe where ever he is....this mother fucker sends me a "Special Gift" one time, because his order was late, the gift is a 1 gram shard of literally glass clear crystal DMT. 

At first i thought the fucker was trying to get me addicted to meth, but when i vaped it...well lets just say the universe swallowed me whole.  30mg of this shit and i was fucking retarded for 15+ min.  Very digital like too.

Anyways, i saved a dose of that rock, for over a year now, still have it, bout 50mg and it is crystal clear.  I don't know if i am ever gonna smoke it, sometimes the memories are what really count =P

However:

I stand up for my man RogerPete now, i think his prices are fair, and his quality is good.  But i haven't tried many other vendors....i guess I'm afraid of change.

RP's consistency is good but i have got the numb mouth once or 2x when smoking it though a joint, but through the vape all seems well.

Who's everybody elses BEST DMT vendor?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DeemzBeemz on 02 August 2013, 15:54:49
Hands down the best DMT i have smoked was made by KidCasio, may he be safe where ever he is....this mother fucker sends me a "Special Gift" one time, because his order was late, the gift is a 1 gram shard of literally glass clear crystal DMT. 

At first i thought the fucker was trying to get me addicted to meth, but when i vaped it...well lets just say the universe swallowed me whole.  30mg of this shit and i was fucking retarded for 15+ min.  Very digital like too.

Anyways, i saved a dose of that rock, for over a year now, still have it, bout 50mg and it is crystal clear.  I don't know if i am ever gonna smoke it, sometimes the memories are what really count =P

However:

I stand up for my man RogerPete now, i think his prices are fair, and his quality is good.  But i haven't tried many other vendors....i guess I'm afraid of change.

RP's consistency is good but i have got the numb mouth once or 2x when smoking it though a joint, but through the vape all seems well.

Who's everybody eases BEST DMT vendor?

My manufacturing process actually created solid crystal DMT but the way I ship, I have to break it down into powder for the best stealth. It seems to be working for me thus far. You should give my DMT a shot, I think you might be quite surprised. ;)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 02 August 2013, 15:57:46
I'll check you out, over supplied now, but soon!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 03 August 2013, 02:11:07
Not trying to hog channel, but i had some questions on DMT joints so here is my method:

So i guess for starters it begins with your joint rolling technique, can you freehand roll a perfect spliff?

If not its cool just get a joint roller machine for like 5 bucks.

now roll a FATTY!!!! i'm talking like cigarette/spliff style joint.

Roll it and form it so the weed is formed in place.

At this point stop and carefully open the paper.

You should see a tightly cylinder/cone weed compressed together.

I say somewhere in the middle carefully break the compact weed apart.

If do it correctly you should have 2 separate pieces of weed compacted together with a little space in the middle.

At this point don't be chincy, cuz you want to make sure you have a good experience.

Now, i always put about 100mg + in joints because when it gets too much just out it out and do it again, but it is also great for buddy blast offs.

So now carefully dose 100mg+ dmt freebase into the gap in between the joint, then carefully smush the 2 parts of weed together, don't worry if it is not perfect, it wont matter.

Just make sure the dmt is in the middle of the joint,

Now you have to finish the join  and roll it so it breathes nice and freshly.

Light it up and smoke, soon as you taste the dmt, you will rip it over and over until you cant hold on anymore put the joint down and have fun =P

Edawg420
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: TrippinOnHunger on 03 August 2013, 06:59:57
Cant lose this thread dont mind me posting here!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: abdomen on 04 August 2013, 21:43:05
I just smoked some stuff I ordered from elvis. It came on time. Decent stealth. Yellow powder, gritty and overweighed  :D

It works just as well as DMT ought to. I have no complaints.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: valakki on 06 August 2013, 01:11:57
I got some DMT in from the vendor named Vatican.
I promised him that Ill make a review.
I did not test it..yet but
Package was amazing. Fast delivery. Good stealth.. like hero members. White colored substance. Smells like honey. Very very good smelling DMT.

I cant wait to blast off with it...but... I need to make a new machine... And Im constantly high on other chemicals...... So its gonna take some time..... but yay......DMT in the house........ And Vatican...... is a vendor that delivers!
Give him a try. Its cheap. and he sells good amounts. I bought  a 300 mg package. Just what I need!!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 06 August 2013, 15:26:57
Made my first extraction few days ago. Got ~0.9g from 50g of bark. Super excited to try it. ;D But i didn`t smoke dmt for about 5 months so i`m lil bit nervous. :P
best vibes,
BlazingSatva.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Vatican on 09 August 2013, 00:50:32
I got some DMT in from the vendor named Vatican.
I promised him that Ill make a review.
I did not test it..yet but
Package was amazing. Fast delivery. Good stealth.. like hero members. White colored substance. Smells like honey. Very very good smelling DMT.

I cant wait to blast off with it...but... I need to make a new machine... And Im constantly high on other chemicals...... So its gonna take some time..... but yay......DMT in the house........ And Vatican...... is a vendor that delivers!
Give him a try. Its cheap. and he sells good amounts. I bought  a 300 mg package. Just what I need!!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlackIris on 09 August 2013, 14:04:38
I promised in September to try Vatican (since he is one of the few EU vendors I didn't try yet) and write a review here and give due endorsement if the product is good.

So in a short time I will too post my impression on Vatican's DMT.

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Vatican on 09 August 2013, 15:01:03
I promised in September to try Vatican (since he is one of the few EU vendors I didn't try yet) and write a review here and give due endorsement if the product is good.

So in a short time I will too post my impression on Vatican's DMT.

That would be super awesome!

Also I challenge you guys finding an other vendor who sells cheaper and higher quality product than me.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 09 August 2013, 19:25:25
I just wanna pop in and say that DEEMZBEEMZ came through on a very generous sample of his PURE WHITE DMT.

This stuff looks as is all impurities have been washed out.  Has a hint of the DMT smell though.

I have yet to try it because my volcano is broken, but rest assured, it will be tested within the week!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 09 August 2013, 22:11:28
Hello Deemsters.
I would like to ask a personal question if I may.

Was wondering how often do you use dmt and most of all when do you "feel" that you want it?

When I first got some dmt I became a bit obsessed and was trying it nearly every day. After a good try though I stopped "needing" it. Now I am sitting again home alone at Friday and in my mind came dmt again. Don't know.
I would really to hear how others approach it.

All the best

Adamiz
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 09 August 2013, 22:37:26
Hello Deemsters.
I would like to ask a personal question if I may.

Was wondering how often do you use dmt and most of all when do you "feel" that you want it?

When I first got some dmt I became a bit obsessed and was trying it nearly every day. After a good try though I stopped "needing" it. Now I am sitting again home alone at Friday and in my mind came dmt again. Don't know.
I would really to hear how others approach it.

All the best

Adamiz
If it feels right, go for it.
If it doesn't, don't.

If you have a true blast-off experience you probably won't want to do it again for a bit because of how insane it is..

Just do what feels right man, dmt doesnt build a tolerance but having that intense of an experience over and over again can make reality quite gray and boring....

trust your own intuition on this one, whatever it may be telling you  :P



Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 10 August 2013, 00:26:11
Yeah, make sure you feel special inside before you do it.  Dont have any negative karma going on, and as gay as it sounds, "Think Happy Thoughts"
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bandeto962 on 10 August 2013, 15:42:07
Finally found out for myself how true that whole "take the third hit" thing really is. I've had some really intense experiences, but no full blown breakthroughs until last night when I finally was able to get the third hit. Wow..
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 10 August 2013, 17:51:24
Finally found out for myself how true that whole "take the third hit" thing really is. I've had some really intense experiences, but no full blown breakthroughs until last night when I finally was able to get the third hit. Wow..

 ;D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 11 August 2013, 06:11:31
Hey,

I have some 200mg full spectrum harmala hcl and 150mg dmt fumarate (pharma) I was wanting to offer one of y'all in exchange for a trip report.  I've had it for about a week but I don't have the time to test it myself.  I don't think I will have the time either and I plan on adding it as a listing at a good price.

Thanks
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 11 August 2013, 07:52:56
Hey,

I have some 200mg full spectrum harmala hcl and 150mg dmt fumarate (pharma) I was wanting to offer one of y'all in exchange for a trip report.  I've had it for about a week but I don't have the time to test it myself.  I don't think I will have the time either and I plan on adding it as a listing at a good price.

Thanks
I've had omnis's pharmahuasca and even though it was a low dose it gave me one of the most spiritual experiences I've had to date.

I would love to try it out and compare, so just let me know!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 11 August 2013, 10:15:48
Hey,

I have some 200mg full spectrum harmala hcl and 150mg dmt fumarate (pharma) I was wanting to offer one of y'all in exchange for a trip report.  I've had it for about a week but I don't have the time to test it myself.  I don't think I will have the time either and I plan on adding it as a listing at a good price.

Thanks
I've had omnis's pharmahuasca and even though it was a low dose it gave me one of the most spiritual experiences I've had to date.

I would love to try it out and compare, so just let me know!

Ok cool,  you're my guy.  I'll set up a custom listing for you tomorrow.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 11 August 2013, 12:43:06
Hey,

I have some 200mg full spectrum harmala hcl and 150mg dmt fumarate (pharma) I was wanting to offer one of y'all in exchange for a trip report.  I've had it for about a week but I don't have the time to test it myself.  I don't think I will have the time either and I plan on adding it as a listing at a good price.

Thanks

This sounds like a great product! +1
Are you planning to be listing fumerate on its own, by any chance?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 11 August 2013, 18:11:06
This sounds like a great product! +1
Are you planning to be listing fumerate on its own, by any chance?
Do you want fumarate for storage purposes or for oral consumption? In the latter case, you don't actually need fumarate if you already have freebase. Prepare an aqueous solution of phosphoric acid, dissolve a measured amount of DMT freebase and consume it. There are many reports suggesting that ayahuasca is much more effective if made with phosphoric vs any other acid. The only explanation I can come up with is that DMT phosphate is absorbed faster in the body. I don't see a reason to bother with fumarate unless you're IV/IM'ing.

You can actually buy harmine (freebase or HCl) on the clearnet and it's cheap (€15 a gram).
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 11 August 2013, 20:57:04
Hey,

I have some 200mg full spectrum harmala hcl and 150mg dmt fumarate (pharma) I was wanting to offer one of y'all in exchange for a trip report.  I've had it for about a week but I don't have the time to test it myself.  I don't think I will have the time either and I plan on adding it as a listing at a good price.

Thanks

This sounds like a great product! +1
Are you planning to be listing fumerate on its own, by any chance?

Yes,  I do plan to.  A lot of people have been interested in iv'ing.  I was just gonna add the pharma as well because the only listing I saw was way overpriced and I feel like people should have a better option.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: klemmo on 13 August 2013, 12:25:22
This sounds like a great product! +1
Are you planning to be listing fumerate on its own, by any chance?
Do you want fumarate for storage purposes or for oral consumption? In the latter case, you don't actually need fumarate if you already have freebase. Prepare an aqueous solution of phosphoric acid, dissolve a measured amount of DMT freebase and consume it. There are many reports suggesting that ayahuasca is much more effective if made with phosphoric vs any other acid. The only explanation I can come up with is that DMT phosphate is absorbed faster in the body. I don't see a reason to bother with fumarate unless you're IV/IM'ing.

You can actually buy harmine (freebase or HCl) on the clearnet and it's cheap (€15 a gram).

interesting, indeed! where do I find phosphoric acid and what are the proportions to use?
I am after it because I quite liked pharmahuasca and it seems to be a lot better than freebase on the stomach.
IV'ing is not going to happen with me ... I prefer to read about it in Rick Strassman's book than to do it myself :)


Yes,  I do plan to.  A lot of people have been interested in iv'ing.  I was just gonna add the pharma as well because the only listing I saw was way overpriced and I feel like people should have a better option.

Please keep us posted here when you do!

You find phosphoric acid in Coca Cola. Highly rated by some on DMT Nexus for oral consumption.

Edit: My review of Dutch Pride is here http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=180322.msg1445697#msg1445697
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 14 August 2013, 01:11:31
@klemmo, thank you. +1
Are you saying that all one needs to do is to take dmt freebase with the coca-cola ( what proportion should I consider?)?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 14 August 2013, 04:20:59
@klemmo, thank you. +1
Are you saying that all one needs to do is to take dmt freebase with the coca-cola ( what proportion should I consider?)?

That's sounds interesting! I want also to hear your answer klemmo!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: klemmo on 14 August 2013, 07:16:33
Yes really - dump freebase into Coke for DMT phosphate, or into OJ to make citrate. You can just swallow freebase (which reacts in your stomach), but many people report nausea with this method.

You still need an MAOI, as the DMT (whether salt or freebase) is not orally active.

Link to Nexus forum below.

CLEARNET:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=39239

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MAOI dosage

Usually a dose of one of the following is taken: 200mg of extracted Caapi /Rue full spectrum Alkaloids; 100-150 mg Harmaline; 150-250 mg Harmine. Any of these can be combined with 150-250 mg Tetrahydroharmine. As a rough guide, 100-150mg of MAOI will be sufficient for most people. 200mg is considered a strong dose. Some people need doses up to 400mg. Preferably one should aim for a threshold dose. Everyone is different so you must experiment to find your own optimum dose. Take you time and increase slowly. Keep in mind that high MAOI dosages can lead to nausea and stomach cramps. Too high a dose can make you extremely sick.

DMT preparation

The DMT needs to be isolated from the plant matter into a freebase form. There are numerous teks on how to do this. In order for freebase DMT to become active orally, it needs to be converted to a salt. Your stomach will do it, but most people report that it's extremely uncomfortable. Better is to chemically change it prior to intake. This can easily be done by dissolving the freebase DMT in fumaric, vinegar (DMT-acetate), orange juice / lemon juice (DMT-citrate), or Coca-Cola (DMT-phosphate). Most people dissolve it in orange juice, but Coca-Cola is also excellent because DMT phosphate is one of the most potent forms of oral DMT.

DMT dosage

As opposed to MAOI's, oddly enough the dose of DMT in Pharma needs to be higher than that in Caapi tea. Maybe due to a more diverse presence of Alkaloids from the MAOI & DMT plants. These probably have an additional effect, compared to the isolated alkaloids in Pharma. Oral DMT dosages vary extremely from person to person. Some people are overwhelmed with as little as 30-40mg. Others need 200mg+ before any effects are felt (no matter what type or how much MAOI's are ingested). Strangely there is no correlation between body mass or sensitivity to smoking DMT and using other psychedelics. A general rule for the dose of DMT is no more than 1mg per pound of body weight, assuming that approx 100mg of MAOI is taken. In general: Low: 20-50mg, mid: 50-100mg, strong: 100-150mg. Keep in mind that a high dose of DMT can be an overwhelming experience. Start low and build up slowly. Additional dosages may be taken throughout the trip. Take you time to find the optimum dose. Tip: eat something light after administering the first dose of DMT.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 14 August 2013, 07:42:44
Coca-colahuasca
dissolve 1 Prescription MAOI and 100mg of DMT freebase in a 20oz coke
The idea almost makes me want to go back to drug dealing, it would be so easy.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: klemmo on 14 August 2013, 07:50:32
+1 for the Coca-colahuasca idea.

A home blend version is here:

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/34889b3660
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 14 August 2013, 14:18:36
interesting, indeed! where do I find phosphoric acid and what are the proportions to use?
I am after it because I quite liked pharmahuasca and it seems to be a lot better than freebase on the stomach.
IV'ing is not going to happen with me ... I prefer to read about it in Rick Strassman's book than to do it myself :)
http://www.the-home-brew-shop.co.uk/acatalog/Phosphoric_Acid_75_250ml.html

A few drops will suffice. I have to reiterate that I'm suggesting phosphoric acid only because I believe DMT phosphate is much more effective than DMT citrate, acetate or any other salt. Otherwise, you could simply use vinegar to convert freebase to acetate and consume that.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Moon Fried on 16 August 2013, 23:48:01
Hi, I can't smoke weed because I get drug tested weekly, so would it be okay to just use this glass pipe to vape the DMT alone?

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/bd07fb973a
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 17 August 2013, 11:51:01
Hi, I can't smoke weed because I get drug tested weekly, so would it be okay to just use this glass pipe to vape the DMT alone?

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/bd07fb973a

Given that DMT is in your system at all times in trace amounts I can not imagine that the test will detect it ... unless you try to pass the test within the hour of your blast-off :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 17 August 2013, 14:58:25
Just wanna pop in and say i had the most MAGICAL adventures tonight vulcanizing DeemzBeemz's Pure white DMT.... that shit is fucking ridiculous...

Good pricing, not trying to be a plug, but i feel i have a duty to do because this guy sent me some  pure WHITE DMT....great stuff

Be safe!

Edawg420
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 17 August 2013, 16:30:54
On a separate note - I trust that lots of people here are real brainiacs and wanted to ask for some help - I was thinking of putting together a "theory of 3 day psychedelic binge", but I do not have enough brain power to get thru the data to come up with Day 3. Here are the details ... just to avoid reposting this fairly lengthy text. Thanks a lot for your help and ideas! IM

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=84848.msg1461168#msg1461168
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 18 August 2013, 02:48:08
I've rewritten my instructions for The Machine. If there's anything important I've omitted, let me know!

1. Point the neck of the bottle to the floor. The exact angle is not important but don't try to use it horizontally; it doesn't work like that.
2. Using a regular lighter, heat the wire gauze from below. Don't heat the glass and don't let the flame touch the gauze. Bottle will fill with thick vapour at this point.
3. Slowly inhale from the hole at the other end of the bottle.
4. As soon as you feel like you almost can't inhale any more, extinguish the lighter and inhale the rest of the vapour remaining in the bottle so as not to waste any DMT.
5. Hold in the vapour for at least 15 seconds.
6. Exhale. You should exhale only air, not vapour. If there is any vapour at all, you're not holding it in for long enough and wasting the DMT.
7. Repeat steps 2 to 6 once or twice.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: klemmo on 18 August 2013, 09:52:26
I've rewritten my instructions for The Machine. If there's anything important I've omitted, let me know!

1. Point the neck of the bottle to the floor. The exact angle is not important but don't try to use it horizontally; it doesn't work like that.
2. Using a regular lighter, heat the wire gauze from below. Don't heat the glass and don't let the flame touch the gauze. Bottle will fill with thick vapour at this point.
3. Slowly inhale from the hole at the other end of the bottle.
4. As soon as you feel like you almost can't inhale any more, extinguish the lighter and inhale the rest of the vapour remaining in the bottle so as not to waste any DMT.
5. Hold in the vapour for at least 15 seconds.
6. Exhale. You should exhale only air, not vapour. If there is any vapour at all, you're not holding it in for long enough and wasting the DMT.
7. Repeat steps 2 to 6 once or twice.

"Ensure you are sitting or reclining"?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DeemzBeemz on 19 August 2013, 07:20:21
Just wanna pop in and say i had the most MAGICAL adventures tonight vulcanizing DeemzBeemz's Pure white DMT.... that shit is fucking ridiculous...

Good pricing, not trying to be a plug, but i feel i have a duty to do because this guy sent me some  pure WHITE DMT....great stuff

Be safe!

Edawg420

Thank you for the kind words there Edawg. I was hoping you would like it. I put a lot of time and care into refining it into such a pure product. I hope everyone else can take note and get to ordering. :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: liquidator on 19 August 2013, 23:01:39
I've rewritten my instructions for The Machine. If there's anything important I've omitted, let me know!

1. Point the neck of the bottle to the floor. The exact angle is not important but don't try to use it horizontally; it doesn't work like that.
2. Using a regular lighter, heat the wire gauze from below. Don't heat the glass and don't let the flame touch the gauze. Bottle will fill with thick vapour at this point.
3. Slowly inhale from the hole at the other end of the bottle.
4. As soon as you feel like you almost can't inhale any more, extinguish the lighter and inhale the rest of the vapour remaining in the bottle so as not to waste any DMT.
5. Hold in the vapour for at least 15 seconds.
6. Exhale. You should exhale only air, not vapour. If there is any vapour at all, you're not holding it in for long enough and wasting the DMT.
7. Repeat steps 2 to 6 once or twice.

That's exactly the method I use and it works perfectly for me :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: liquidator on 19 August 2013, 23:17:12
Finally I did manage to try moclobemide + DMT

T    0:00 150mg moclobemide pill
T +0:45 75mg DMT fumerate in gel cap (JoR)
T +1:10 35mg DMT fumerate in gel cap (JoR) - total of 110mg of DMT fumerate

Moclobemide is an example of RIMA MAOI and does not require nearly as tight of a diet prior to taking it or afterwards as a classical MAOI would. My last big meal was about 20 hours before taking it but in the meantime I had some nuts, dried fruits, water, etc and all went really well. Moclobemide itself had little to no noticeable impact itself. First signs of DMT appeared at around T +1:30 - leaves started to arrange themselves into fractal formations, moss on tree trunks was moving around a bit and leaf colours turned into fluorescent ones as if illuminated from within. It was as if I was slowly approaching the hyperspace. Stormyness of the situation was increasing for about 45 minutes with me being fairly lethargic and stuck in my chair for most of the time. At about T +2:00 I have thought that it would be interesting to enhance this fairly enjoyable but mild experience with a smoke of some NN DMT in my trusted machine

Boom! 20 mg smoke and me and my friend end up in a different reality much of which I failed to bring back. Highlights are re-living 4 or 5 times the same 1 minute of events in a Matrix-movie deja-vu fashion - as if vinyl disk has starter skipping and re-sending me back to the same spot again and again! In comparison to the usual situation trip was a lot deeper and longer ... my friend after about of 15 minutes of being quiet asked me a killer question that made me burst into laughter - while looking at me he asked: " could you please tell me if my eyes are open or closed?"

Amazing experience!!! Moclobemide not only allows for DMT to be orally active, but also makes smoking trips a lot longer and deeper than without it. Next time I will try to go for 150mg + 50mg top-up

Nice report, thanks for posting!

I had to abandon my candyflip + DMT experiment I mentioned a few pages back. I still candyflipped, which was a beautiful experience, but earlier in the day I was smoking DMT by itself and had a bad one, which shook me up a bit. It was the first time I ever had anything negative happen on DMT but I thought it sensible to have a little break.

I've since had a few low dose DMT trips, not enough to fully break through but enough to see the magical visuals. Not as vivid and colorful as they normally are but enough to help build my confidence back up. I feel ready to go back to hyperspace now and hope to do so in the next couple of weeks. Looking forward to it already :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Moon Fried on 22 August 2013, 21:33:35
Vouching for Ringo Deathstarr

Quote
Sorry for finalizing late, I wasn't sure who's package arrived and didn't want to finalize too early and could not retrieve the package at the time.

Processing & Shipping - 5/5 - Extremely fast timing.

Stealth - 5/5 - Above average, obviously cares about the safety of the receiving end.

Product - 5/5 - Have not tested, looks good though. Will edit when I can.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 23 August 2013, 04:53:18
Hello Deemsters and friends!

I would like to place some thoughts,experiences and questions about this mystical substance called DMT, in order to understand some missing parts more clearly.

I heard about DMT 2-3 years ago and wanted to learn about it and try it without having any experience into other psychedelics. Last year I firstly tried LSD and since then I can say I have done it 10-15 times. All this time I was also researching about DMT.

This July I started experimenting with DMT. Just after my first try I started using the Machine method. The first 2-3 weeks I was obsessed with the term "breaking through" and did consume about 0.7g from different vendors. I must mention also that my dose varied from 20-40 and two times 50mg. In all of my tries I have had only one or two "meaningful" experiences. (in case you are interested, here is my report --->  http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=179972.msg1409935#msg1409935
In addition in all my tries I have never been or experienced visions/situations/places that are out of body or reports similar to others. I always know where I am, and despite the visuals all the trip has a feeling of multi thinking and loss of time.

So after this experience I kind of lost the need to try breaking through or using it daily.

Being guided and influenced by public or personal posts by BlackIris, I came to a conclusion that psychedelics and especially DMT is a substance that "needs" a very good mind and consciousness state in order to adapt in to the experience of this substance. So I tried to keep a distance away from DMT and managed to do it for about 3 weeks. During these weeks I have succeeded in changing some habits or "addictions" I had such as daily use of cannabis, meaningless surfing on the net, porn and others. I also try to work on my body and meditation. Although I can state I have not fitted those two entirely in my daily schedule. Anyway, the thing I want to say is that I try to improve my mental/body state for two reasons. One is the obvious one that concern health and mental prosperity and the other reason is that I want to deepen my psychedelic experiences, in this case DMT.

Before some days I bought another 0.5g from a trusted and vouched vendor and started experimenting again.
This time I am not alone, a good friend has joined the "quest". First time after weeks I and him tried the product. It was his first time, and even though he didn't do the perfect tokes he experienced something that you may call break through. In short, he was in a operation bed, having his chest opened and operated by some entities.
That was my first time doing DMT with company and I really felt different or I can say not free and blocked by his presence.

Anyway, in my last trip before 3 weeks and in the next two ones these days, I seem to have lost everything about the trip. Can't remember anything except that I had the feeling of loosing time. Today before an hour I tried again, and the only thing I can remember is the visuals..

I know that DMT isn't a easy substance, I know you need to have a "clean" mind before trying it and honestly I try. I don't consider myself stupid or anything, on the contrary I would say, but clearly I miss something important that doesn't allow me to feel the experience or this "break through".

If I would personally ask BlackIris I know that his answer would be like: My mind blocks it and I am expecting too much from it or have been affected by so many trip reports and information that I have read. I trust this is the case but still I want to share this thought to all of you.

Any comments on this perspective that concerns mind state are more than welcome. But I want also to make a clear question about the practical part of it that concerns the dose.

I have seen that many talk about the dose being around 50mg but on the other hand I keep reading from experienced users that they need only one or two tokes with 20-30mg.
And another part of this question that has troubled me long time is the following: Again influenced from reading and especially even before I tried, I thought that after inhaling it you wouldn't be able to move much and therefore it is advisable  to have someone to take your machine/pipe away in order not to burn. Even in the "How to" instructions, people mention that you can take 2 or 3 tokes if you are able to do so.

One thing I try to follow (without ever trying to do opposite) is to keep a moderation when it concerns the dose. And the thing I want to ask you people before trying it is: Since every time I take my tokes, I always  always have the feel that I can inhale more. My mind maybe starts "playing" but again I know for sure I am able to take more hits. So the idea is to make another one or even two machines more load them (20-40mg)  and try to inhale until I can't anymore. What do you think about that? Will it make any difference? And is it possible that because I will inhale a lot I will overdo it and just "sleep"?
Honesty I don't like to abuse anything especially psychedelics, and that is why I want your thoughts on that.

Going to focus a lot the next days on educating myself in meditation practices and put it into my daily schedule not only for my shake, but maybe because it will help me on future DMT attempts.

I am really sorry about the length of all this, maybe it is even a worthless text to read, but since I am having troubles understanding this "Spirit molecule" you are the only ones that I can ask advices and have some extra knowledge.

Just to make it clear again, I use the machine method, and I don't want to sandwich or any other methods.
Lastly I want to wish you all a nice day and to thank you in advance for reading this or even answering to it.

All the best

Adamiz
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Moon Fried on 23 August 2013, 06:57:28
Updated my review to add to the product part:

Quote
Sorry for finalizing late, I wasn't sure who's package arrived and didn't want to finalize too early and could not retrieve the package at the time.

Processing & Shipping - 5/5 - Extremely fast timing.

Stealth - 5/5 - Above average, obviously cares about the safety of the receiving end.

Product - 5/5 - Have not tested, looks good though. Will edit when I can.

Edit: Product remains 5/5. Smells great (as great as DMT can smell), a nice yellow/whitish color (I like the yellow), and the quality is just top notch. Had a great trip earlier. Thank you!!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on 23 August 2013, 08:37:45
Updated my review to add to the product part:

Quote
Sorry for finalizing late, I wasn't sure who's package arrived and didn't want to finalize too early and could not retrieve the package at the time.

Processing & Shipping - 5/5 - Extremely fast timing.

Stealth - 5/5 - Above average, obviously cares about the safety of the receiving end.

Product - 5/5 - Have not tested, looks good though. Will edit when I can.

Edit: Product remains 5/5. Smells great (as great as DMT can smell), a nice yellow/whitish color (I like the yellow), and the quality is just top notch. Had a great trip earlier. Thank you!!

Thanks a lot Moon Fried!  I'm constantly looking for ways on improving my product, and I believe it will take another step up soon.  Also, I plan on listing pharma in the next few days. 
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 23 August 2013, 16:07:53
Ugh, I typed out a report yesterday and the forums glitched up so I am sorry if this report seems a little lazy.

Shipping: 5 got here quickly as usual.

Stealth: 4.5 was clever and humorous like others have stated but it seemed a little bit large for the product it contained.

Communication: 5 definitely one of the more personable vendors you'll find on the road. very friendly and quick to respond.

Product: 5 I've tried pharmahuasca in the passed and I can definitely say that a cleaner extraction provides a cleaner experience.

Okay so I took the maoi yesterday roughly an hour or two after I woke up. I felt first effects from that within 20 minutes or so(chills, a looseness in my limbs, slight stimulation) and I decided to take the dmt another 20 minutes after that.

While I was waiting for it to come on I did some cleaning, which eventually led me to taking a bath. The dmt started coming on hard while I was in there. the euphoria from it was overwhelming.

I got out and decided to go outside and smoke a cig. Once I got out there I was constantly gasping because of how beautiful everything was. I shut my eyes at one point and saw an enormous pink background , which then turned orange, then red. Once it turned red i could see the impression of an enormous domed off area with a body of water in the middle of it, crashing against land. I shut my eyes tighter and saw multiple colors appear in several geometric shapes. I opened my eyes and the world was very vivid and deep. everything had a shiny/glossy tint and every plant out there had such personality.

I came inside and decided to listen to music and I'm definitely glad I did that. Every song was such an emotional experience. vibes were awesome but somewhat overwhelming at certain points, which is expected. I sat there listening to music until I started descending back to baseline.

Overall I was very satisfied with the experience but I made a couple of suggestions to ringo and he considered them.

One would be to use a less precise extraction so he pulls out more alkaloids. for smoking I want pure D but I think those extra alkaloids add to the pharma experience.

and Two,  I would say a little more maoi would be helpful with both extending the duration and adding to the "cleansing" aspect.(he said he would probably up the dosage to me)

With all of that considered, I think most of the less hardcore psychonauts will prefer the mixture you have right now but I like my experiences to be a bit hard/teaching.

I will be back to get more from ringo, it's nice to have found a good domestic source for pharma! :)




Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 24 August 2013, 10:48:02
@adamiz, I am not sure what to say - some amazingly great changes you were able to make in your life with the help of this magical substance. If everyone did the same thing than the case against prohibition would be very strong, indeed :) My feeling is that you are just trying too hard to understand all aspects of it and kinda drive all of your experiences with your expectations. Just let it go and let it show you. Nuff said.

@wavelength, sounds like an interesting experience, but the dose was not very high if you were cool enough to go for a smoke :) what were the doses you went for? On ayahuasca analogues - using advice from earlier in the thread I have tried moclobemide + DMT freebase + coca-cola (DMT phosphate) - damn, it is a good mix. It was active for only about an hour or so, but what a trip! +1 for being a guinea pig for all of us to follow :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 24 August 2013, 13:55:41
@adamiz, I am not sure what to say - some amazingly great changes you were able to make in your life with the help of this magical substance. If everyone did the same thing than the case against prohibition would be very strong, indeed :) My feeling is that you are just trying too hard to understand all aspects of it and kinda drive all of your experiences with your expectations. Just let it go and let it show you. Nuff said.

I try let it go, but that is a easy to say hard to do thing. This substance is by far the most complicated I have try. Last night I try forcing meditating after inhalations and I can say it went good. A shadow appeared in front of my eyes like a thin Buddha figure and was meditating with me. Cool experience I would say. It was too hard to breath but this shadow was there and helped me with my breaths. hehe.

What about the question I made in the end of the text? The one that concerns taking blows from 2-3 machines until I "pass" out?  Maybe it is not a good idea to "overdose" but I would like to hear your thoughts on that.

Cheers,

Adamiz
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 24 August 2013, 14:01:45
if you can ... then do it!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 24 August 2013, 14:05:21
Well as I said, I always feel that I can take some more tokes. So I guess I will try it next time :)

Will update if anything new happens.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 24 August 2013, 16:05:18
I try let it go, but that is a easy to say hard to do thing. This substance is by far the most complicated I have try. Last night I try forcing meditating after inhalations and I can say it went good. A shadow appeared in front of my eyes like a thin Buddha figure and was meditating with me. Cool experience I would say. It was too hard to breath but this shadow was there and helped me with my breaths. hehe.

What about the question I made in the end of the text? The one that concerns taking blows from 2-3 machines until I "pass" out?  Maybe it is not a good idea to "overdose" but I would like to hear your thoughts on that.

Cheers,

Adamiz
You don't need 3 machines. I've successfully loaded over 250mg in one machine. It's much more convenient too. And this is another reason why to put more than the minimum amount of wire gauze required when making a machine.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 24 August 2013, 16:55:58
@adamiz, I am not sure what to say - some amazingly great changes you were able to make in your life with the help of this magical substance. If everyone did the same thing than the case against prohibition would be very strong, indeed :) My feeling is that you are just trying too hard to understand all aspects of it and kinda drive all of your experiences with your expectations. Just let it go and let it show you. Nuff said.

@wavelength, sounds like an interesting experience, but the dose was not very high if you were cool enough to go for a smoke :) what were the doses you went for? On ayahuasca analogues - using advice from earlier in the thread I have tried moclobemide + DMT freebase + coca-cola (DMT phosphate) - damn, it is a good mix. It was active for only about an hour or so, but what a trip! +1 for being a guinea pig for all of us to follow :)
I've had a couple of pharmahuasca experiences and both times I've been able to move about freely.
like I said before though the purity of ringos extraction is very high, and because of that the experience was very clean. the extra alkaloids in the plant mixture tend to provide a bit more "overwhelming" or "encompassing" experience.

Also, a higher dose of maois tends to make it harder to move, and it also makes it much more challenging spiritually IME.

the dmt dose was 150mgs, but the maoi was a somewhere over 200mg(dont quite remember the exact number).

ringo told me he was upping the dose for the maoi so thats taken care of. :P
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Moon Fried on 25 August 2013, 10:21:14
I just had the most beautiful time with Ringo Deathstarr's DMT. Just amazed. I feel awake.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Moon Fried on 25 August 2013, 11:39:24
Oh, question about Changa listings: If it's 50% DMT, does that mean I should just smoke a bowl of, 150mg changa if I'm used to 75mg DMT?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: pepomaze66 on 25 August 2013, 13:46:48

I wouldn't be able to use The Machine, since i cant really drill holes in glass.

Anyone know what(if) are the negative effects by using this method? Its also using a bottle with aluminum foil as the bottom, you can see the example here: http://youtu.be/QtckVptu4I4?t=4m9s
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 25 August 2013, 15:07:39

I wouldn't be able to use The Machine, since i cant really drill holes in glass.

Anyone know what(if) are the negative effects by using this method? Its also using a bottle with aluminum foil as the bottom, you can see the example here: http://youtu.be/QtckVptu4I4?t=4m9s
I've made over 100 machines with only a hammer and a screwdriver. Drilling is completely unnecessary.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 25 August 2013, 15:32:55
You don't need 3 machines. I've successfully loaded over 250mg in one machine. It's much more convenient too. And this is another reason why to put more than the minimum amount of wire gauze required when making a machine.

Thanks for the advice. I got some new little bottles yesterday than are half the size of my current. They are 50ml and will try to change my machines. But I think I will try thought with 2 machines. So I guess taking higher doses isn't bad right?

Thanks again.

Adamiz
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: pepomaze66 on 25 August 2013, 20:23:40

I wouldn't be able to use The Machine, since i cant really drill holes in glass.

Anyone know what(if) are the negative effects by using this method? Its also using a bottle with aluminum foil as the bottom, you can see the example here: http://youtu.be/QtckVptu4I4?t=4m9s
I've made over 100 machines with only a hammer and a screwdriver. Drilling is completely unnecessary.

Wouldn't that shatter the glass? I did buy a drill yesterday thu.

What about the plastic bottle+aluminum foil method? Not good at all?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 26 August 2013, 00:06:15
Thanks for the advice. I got some new little bottles yesterday than are half the size of my current. They are 50ml and will try to change my machines. But I think I will try thought with 2 machines. So I guess taking higher doses isn't bad right?

Thanks again.

Adamiz
You can't overdose on DMT.

Wouldn't that shatter the glass? I did buy a drill yesterday thu.

What about the plastic bottle+aluminum foil method? Not good at all?
1. Depends on the bottle. You should be able to tell by looking at the bottom. Martell bottles are the best but Hennessys are OK too.
2. Ever seen a DMT connoisseur recommend that?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 26 August 2013, 19:44:05
Hey guys, how is Ringo Deathstarr batch ?  Can people compare it to DeemzBeemz or RogerPete's batches?

I usually don't try new DMT vendors out... but god damn... $70 grams.... well i just gotta know if this is some good quality stuff.

Thanks in advance,


Edawg420
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 27 August 2013, 00:59:36
You can't overdose on DMT.

Yes, I hear you my friend. But is there any difference in the effects when taking a bigger dose?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wingeddoomua on 27 August 2013, 07:57:52
Hi! I've got a letter from dmtnexus few weeks ago.
It was my first DMT experience, so I'm glad that I've prepared a pipe well and consumed that DMT without wasting it. The trip was deep and visuals were very beautiful, I wasn't disappointed.

The price is great, will order again. Thanks dmtnexus!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 27 August 2013, 09:07:52
But is there any difference in the effects when taking a bigger dose?
In my experience no. I have smoked up to 100-110mg and didn`t notice any difference, besides that it comes FASTER and HARDER or you simply blackout and won`t remember anything. In two words this is just a wasting of the spice. But this also depends on the method of administration.
best vibes,
BlazingSatva.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 27 August 2013, 11:32:40
But is there any difference in the effects when taking a bigger dose?
In my experience no. I have smoked up to 100-110mg and didn`t notice any difference, besides that it comes FASTER and HARDER or you simply blackout and won`t remember anything. In two words this is just a wasting of the spice. But this also depends on the method of administration.
best vibes,
BlazingSatva.

Lately, I have often this experience that I don't remember much even with small doses of 30-40. After yesterdays session I decided to quit DMT for 1-2 weeks or more since the last experiences is meaningless. Need some time to put my mind in a peaceful state before trying. Yesterday evening I tried as well "overdosing" because I really want to experience this so called break through. I have been trying 2 months without success. During the toking yesterday I felt really strong effects and did about 5-6 tokes until I couldn't more. I lied down hoping that this was the time finally. But no, I actually don't remember much.... So I said enough with it. I have wasted more than a gram without any big success. I feel I have to slow down a bit and take a break.

Another question I want to make, does smoking DMT effects your dental health?

All the best,

Adamiz
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 28 August 2013, 07:35:50
Hey guys, how is Ringo Deathstarr batch ?  Can people compare it to DeemzBeemz or RogerPete's batches?

I usually don't try new DMT vendors out... but god damn... $70 grams.... well i just gotta know if this is some good quality stuff.

Thanks in advance,


Edawg420
I got some a minute back. It was good.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 28 August 2013, 07:58:34

I wouldn't be able to use The Machine, since i cant really drill holes in glass.

Anyone know what(if) are the negative effects by using this method? Its also using a bottle with aluminum foil as the bottom, you can see the example here: http://youtu.be/QtckVptu4I4?t=4m9s
I've made over 100 machines with only a hammer and a screwdriver. Drilling is completely unnecessary.

Wouldn't that shatter the glass? I did buy a drill yesterday thu.

What about the plastic bottle+aluminum foil method? Not good at all?
I had an epic fail with the bottle method as a noob to DMT. If you drill spent the $15 on a diamond glass bit from the hardware store. Use a cordless and run water in a drizzle over the hole. Go slow let the drill do the work. I never tied a hammer but he obviously knows what he is doing :)

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Moon Fried on 28 August 2013, 08:20:18
How much DMT would you guys recommend me loading into your average meth pipe?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Moon Fried on 28 August 2013, 09:04:32
Hooooly shit that got intense... I really scared myself a ton too. :-[

It started with multiple arms, then someone was DEFINITELY under my sheet waiting for my to peek. God damn that was just fucking awesome. Wow. Now that... THAT was something. I don't know what I was doing with those mild trips, but that was something else.

I got flashes of people climbing up my wall trying to lure me with there finger, you know, like the "come here you wanna see more" finger curling... but in the scariest way. It was like they were taunting me, because I've been trying to reach this blast off for a while. I'm not sure if this means I should lay off or what...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: pepomaze66 on 28 August 2013, 17:57:08
Well, Yesterday i sat with a good friend of mine, first time for both of us. Had some 250mg of dmt.

We tried using the Vaaapp Vaporizer, and the plastic bottle with aluminum foil on the bottom method.

We failed on both - wasting all of the 250mg in tries.

My friend saw real cool visuals, like the ceiling from the room was gone, just walls going up and up , color changing, and his hands going forward like a rubber man. - all of this somehow from using the Vaaapp.

we burned the glass until the dmt got liquidish yellow - then continue to burn it a little bit to make it vape - then stopped and inhaled.

we could both feel the harsh taste. I had no visuals and no body high, and him.. as i wrote above.

Better luck next time, just ordered the GVG.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 28 August 2013, 18:09:39

I got flashes of people climbing up my wall trying to lure me with there finger, you know, like the "come here you wanna see more" finger curling... but in the scariest way. It was like they were taunting me, because I've been trying to reach this blast off for a while. I'm not sure if this means I should lay off or what...

I've definitely seen similar visions(a being crawling up to me in a strange posture, looking at me face to face)and I remember the feeling being extremely alarming.

I dont think it means you should lay off but im no doctor ::)



Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 28 August 2013, 19:07:20
Hooooly shit that got intense... I really scared myself a ton too. :-[

It started with multiple arms, then someone was DEFINITELY under my sheet waiting for my to peek. God damn that was just fucking awesome. Wow. Now that... THAT was something. I don't know what I was doing with those mild trips, but that was something else.

I got flashes of people climbing up my wall trying to lure me with there finger, you know, like the "come here you wanna see more" finger curling... but in the scariest way. It was like they were taunting me, because I've been trying to reach this blast off for a while. I'm not sure if this means I should lay off or what...

Haha that is awesome +1  Yeah bro, sounds like you broke through to another plain... were your eyes closed for this adventure?

I usually meet entities when my eyes are closed.  Some of the most beautiful things can happen in your head.  one thing to try and remember or at least i try to do is be very humble and accepting of the entities.

They usually always make me feel very safe and comforted...just accept their presence and let them embrace you.

That said, next time make sure you follow them!  They can show you a true connection to the universe, an overwhelming feeling of belonging and love.  These visions can be among the most awe inspiring moments of your life.

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 29 August 2013, 00:42:54
Hooooly shit that got intense... I really scared myself a ton too. :-[

It started with multiple arms, then someone was DEFINITELY under my sheet waiting for my to peek. God damn that was just fucking awesome. Wow. Now that... THAT was something. I don't know what I was doing with those mild trips, but that was something else.

I got flashes of people climbing up my wall trying to lure me with there finger, you know, like the "come here you wanna see more" finger curling... but in the scariest way. It was like they were taunting me, because I've been trying to reach this blast off for a while. I'm not sure if this means I should lay off or what...

Haha that is awesome +1  Yeah bro, sounds like you broke through to another plain... were your eyes closed for this adventure?

I usually meet entities when my eyes are closed.  Some of the most beautiful things can happen in your head.  one thing to try and remember or at least i try to do is be very humble and accepting of the entities.

They usually always make me feel very safe and comforted...just accept their presence and let them embrace you.

That said, next time make sure you follow them!  They can show you a true connection to the universe, an overwhelming feeling of belonging and love.  These visions can be among the most awe inspiring moments of your life.

Pretty intense stuff. Whose product Moonfried? I think some of the more full spectrum DMT gives some scarier but deeper teachings. "Other" alks opening different doorways so to speak. That's just my observation. RP's and MU's are as different as night and day but both are excellent. Soon I am going blend some NMT heavy acacia home extracted spice with some of MU's and see how the NMT enhances the trip.
Those scary entities sometimes have a lesson. I once had 3 really fucked trips where this particular one seemed to want to control me by making me believe it would kill me. I said aloud "I am here to learn, teach me" The trip became magical and I gained an ally and protector. Setting intent and preparing my mind has become very important.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Moon Fried on 29 August 2013, 03:57:40
Well, Yesterday i sat with a good friend of mine, first time for both of us. Had some 250mg of dmt.

We tried using the Vaaapp Vaporizer, and the plastic bottle with aluminum foil on the bottom method.

We failed on both - wasting all of the 250mg in tries.

My friend saw real cool visuals, like the ceiling from the room was gone, just walls going up and up , color changing, and his hands going forward like a rubber man. - all of this somehow from using the Vaaapp.

we burned the glass until the dmt got liquidish yellow - then continue to burn it a little bit to make it vape - then stopped and inhaled.

we could both feel the harsh taste. I had no visuals and no body high, and him.. as i wrote above.

Better luck next time, just ordered the GVG.

250mg...? It sounds like maybe you were burning the DMT. How did the vapor/smoke feel when inhaling? To be honest, you probably would have had better luck with this meth pipe: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/bd07fb973a
$15 with free shipping, has a slight learning curve, but with 250mg you'd be able to split that up into like five strong doses and get the hang of it.


I got flashes of people climbing up my wall trying to lure me with there finger, you know, like the "come here you wanna see more" finger curling... but in the scariest way. It was like they were taunting me, because I've been trying to reach this blast off for a while. I'm not sure if this means I should lay off or what...

I've definitely seen similar visions(a being crawling up to me in a strange posture, looking at me face to face)and I remember the feeling being extremely alarming.

I dont think it means you should lay off but im no doctor ::)

It was strange because it was like a lady-like figure with no distinct facial features and no bottom half of a body. She was like crawling down my wall towards me... except I don't know if it was my wall. I don't know where she was. I don't remember enough to say where I saw her. It was like a third eye kind of thing or something... I can't explain it that well.

Hooooly shit that got intense... I really scared myself a ton too. :-[

It started with multiple arms, then someone was DEFINITELY under my sheet waiting for my to peek. God damn that was just fucking awesome. Wow. Now that... THAT was something. I don't know what I was doing with those mild trips, but that was something else.

I got flashes of people climbing up my wall trying to lure me with there finger, you know, like the "come here you wanna see more" finger curling... but in the scariest way. It was like they were taunting me, because I've been trying to reach this blast off for a while. I'm not sure if this means I should lay off or what...

Haha that is awesome +1  Yeah bro, sounds like you broke through to another plain... were your eyes closed for this adventure?

I usually meet entities when my eyes are closed.  Some of the most beautiful things can happen in your head.  one thing to try and remember or at least i try to do is be very humble and accepting of the entities.

They usually always make me feel very safe and comforted...just accept their presence and let them embrace you.

That said, next time make sure you follow them!  They can show you a true connection to the universe, an overwhelming feeling of belonging and love.  These visions can be among the most awe inspiring moments of your life.

It was spooky because of what I was doing to myself. When I first started to feel the DMT coming to me heavy, I started thinking playfully, "where's these 'beings' and such I'm supposed to see?" Then I started to slowly look up and back down because I made myself afraid of other beings arriving at the scene. This made me look at my arms and legs, which started to multiply and spook me out. I looked at my bedsheets and I thought there was some entity waiting to pop out and scare me. That's when things got crazy and I laid back and had a vision of the lady like figures trying to lure me. Again, I have no idea WHERE in my vision I saw these. I feel like it was on my wall, but I'm not even sure. This is while my eyes were open. When I closed my eyes, very nonsensical things were flying in my vision, like I was watching Robot Chicken or some random Adult Swim show.

Pretty intense stuff. Whose product Moonfried? I think some of the more full spectrum DMT gives some scarier but deeper teachings. "Other" alks opening different doorways so to speak. That's just my observation. RP's and MU's are as different as night and day but both are excellent. Soon I am going blend some NMT heavy acacia home extracted spice with some of MU's and see how the NMT enhances the trip.
Those scary entities sometimes have a lesson. I once had 3 really fucked trips where this particular one seemed to want to control me by making me believe it would kill me. I said aloud "I am here to learn, teach me" The trip became magical and I gained an ally and protector. Setting intent and preparing my mind has become very important.

Ringo Deathstarr's, his $70 a gram DMT is such a good deal. I haven't tried other DMT on the Road, but his is definitely powerful. I can't see myself paying almost double for a slight difference in quality, if there even is.

Yes, I agree. Although a lot of this trip was scary and didn't seem to make much sense, it left me with many questions that have made me reflect on myself. I look forward to my next trip.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 29 August 2013, 05:07:37
That's awesome. Seems like Ringo puts care in what he does. I'm thinking the new moon is looking like a night I might venture out. My last time out has taken a while for me to reintegrate it was so life shaking. In a good way.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: pepomaze66 on 29 August 2013, 07:49:11
Well, Yesterday i sat with a good friend of mine, first time for both of us. Had some 250mg of dmt.

We tried using the Vaaapp Vaporizer, and the plastic bottle with aluminum foil on the bottom method.

We failed on both - wasting all of the 250mg in tries.

My friend saw real cool visuals, like the ceiling from the room was gone, just walls going up and up , color changing, and his hands going forward like a rubber man. - all of this somehow from using the Vaaapp.

we burned the glass until the dmt got liquidish yellow - then continue to burn it a little bit to make it vape - then stopped and inhaled.

we could both feel the harsh taste. I had no visuals and no body high, and him.. as i wrote above.

Better luck next time, just ordered the GVG.

250mg...? It sounds like maybe you were burning the DMT. How did the vapor/smoke feel when inhaling? To be honest, you probably would have had better luck with this meth pipe: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/bd07fb973a
$15 with free shipping, has a slight learning curve, but with 250mg you'd be able to split that up into like five strong doses and get the hang of it.

The vapor\smoke felt very popcorn\plastic like - and even the times we were able to get enough inside - we coughed like hell.
so yes i suppose you are right about burning it. after the vapes were up - the liquid became blackish-tar.

so if i hold the lighter away, too far - there would be no vape (held it for almost a minute)
if I get it too close - it burns.

I guess I'll have more luck with the VGV+Ceramic disc filter on top.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Wa1ter White on 29 August 2013, 09:36:33
who has the best dmt for sale at the moment and will ship to canada?


There was some guy on here a couple of months ago saying he had the same stuff Terrance Mckenna had and was blessed by a shaman. lol, probably just some marketing bs but it worked on me, wish id bought some.


Anyhoo, let me know the word brother deemsters
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Moon Fried on 29 August 2013, 10:47:01
That's awesome. Seems like Ringo puts care in what he does. I'm thinking the new moon is looking like a night I might venture out. My last time out has taken a while for me to reintegrate it was so life shaking. In a good way.

He does! You can tell from his stealth alone. ;D

Well, Yesterday i sat with a good friend of mine, first time for both of us. Had some 250mg of dmt.

We tried using the Vaaapp Vaporizer, and the plastic bottle with aluminum foil on the bottom method.

We failed on both - wasting all of the 250mg in tries.

My friend saw real cool visuals, like the ceiling from the room was gone, just walls going up and up , color changing, and his hands going forward like a rubber man. - all of this somehow from using the Vaaapp.

we burned the glass until the dmt got liquidish yellow - then continue to burn it a little bit to make it vape - then stopped and inhaled.

we could both feel the harsh taste. I had no visuals and no body high, and him.. as i wrote above.

Better luck next time, just ordered the GVG.

250mg...? It sounds like maybe you were burning the DMT. How did the vapor/smoke feel when inhaling? To be honest, you probably would have had better luck with this meth pipe: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/bd07fb973a
$15 with free shipping, has a slight learning curve, but with 250mg you'd be able to split that up into like five strong doses and get the hang of it.

The vapor\smoke felt very popcorn\plastic like - and even the times we were able to get enough inside - we coughed like hell.
so yes i suppose you are right about burning it. after the vapes were up - the liquid became blackish-tar.

so if i hold the lighter away, too far - there would be no vape (held it for almost a minute)
if I get it too close - it burns.

I guess I'll have more luck with the VGV+Ceramic disc filter on top.

I still think you should give the meth pipe I linked a go. It could save you a lot of money... but I do hear on dmt-nexus that the GVG is an extremely valuable tool for DMT users. Btw, not sure about ceramic disc filters, but I hear copper scrub (like Chore Boy) can be used with the GVG to prevent it from melting down the pipe.

who has the best dmt for sale at the moment and will ship to canada?


There was some guy on here a couple of months ago saying he had the same stuff Terrance Mckenna had and was blessed by a shaman. lol, probably just some marketing bs but it worked on me, wish id bought some.


Anyhoo, let me know the word brother deemsters

What's Terence McKenna's DMT? I heard something about it being yellow, which is a common color of DMT on SR. Don't let self-suggestion get in the way of your trips. ;)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: pepomaze66 on 29 August 2013, 12:03:17

Well, Yesterday i sat with a good friend of mine, first time for both of us. Had some 250mg of dmt.

We tried using the Vaaapp Vaporizer, and the plastic bottle with aluminum foil on the bottom method.

We failed on both - wasting all of the 250mg in tries.

My friend saw real cool visuals, like the ceiling from the room was gone, just walls going up and up , color changing, and his hands going forward like a rubber man. - all of this somehow from using the Vaaapp.

we burned the glass until the dmt got liquidish yellow - then continue to burn it a little bit to make it vape - then stopped and inhaled.

we could both feel the harsh taste. I had no visuals and no body high, and him.. as i wrote above.

Better luck next time, just ordered the GVG.

250mg...? It sounds like maybe you were burning the DMT. How did the vapor/smoke feel when inhaling? To be honest, you probably would have had better luck with this meth pipe: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/bd07fb973a
$15 with free shipping, has a slight learning curve, but with 250mg you'd be able to split that up into like five strong doses and get the hang of it.

The vapor\smoke felt very popcorn\plastic like - and even the times we were able to get enough inside - we coughed like hell.
so yes i suppose you are right about burning it. after the vapes were up - the liquid became blackish-tar.

so if i hold the lighter away, too far - there would be no vape (held it for almost a minute)
if I get it too close - it burns.

I guess I'll have more luck with the VGV+Ceramic disc filter on top.

I still think you should give the meth pipe I linked a go. It could save you a lot of money... but I do hear on dmt-nexus that the GVG is an extremely valuable tool for DMT users. Btw, not sure about ceramic disc filters, but I hear copper scrub (like Chore Boy) can be used with the GVG to prevent it from melting down the pipe.

Well, I already placed an order on the GVG and the ceramic discs. Check out this thread [clearnet!] : https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=42867

seems like the better option than chore boy, and since i cant get either of them locally - i decided to order the Ceramic one.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Moon Fried on 30 August 2013, 02:47:53
Well, I already placed an order on the GVG and the ceramic discs. Check out this thread [clearnet!] : https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=42867

seems like the better option than chore boy, and since i cant get either of them locally - i decided to order the Ceramic one.

Oh, very cool, haven't seen that. I would probably go with that over the chore boy too.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 01 September 2013, 08:53:01

Well, I already placed an order on the GVG and the ceramic discs. Check out this thread [clearnet!] : https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=42867


Good decision - I hear GVG requires least amount of learning the ropes and will for sure reduce wastage.
Given that you could not hold it in and that it stank it is pretty certain that you were burning it.
Remember that DMT vaping temperature is about 160C.

Hooooly shit that got intense... I really scared myself a ton too. :-[

I got flashes of people climbing up my wall trying to lure me with there finger, you know, like the "come here you wanna see more" finger curling... but in the scariest way. It was like they were taunting me, because I've been trying to reach this blast off for a while. I'm not sure if this means I should lay off or what...

@Moon Fried, you are lucky to be able to bring things back ... That world is pretty scary for us, but imagine how is our world for them?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: pepomaze66 on 01 September 2013, 09:17:00

Well, I already placed an order on the GVG and the ceramic discs. Check out this thread [clearnet!] : https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=42867


Good decision - I hear GVG requires least amount of learning the ropes and will for sure reduce wastage.
Given that you could not hold it in and that it stank it is pretty certain that you were burning it.
Remember that DMT vaping temperature is about 160C.

Am I suppose to see vape fumes? Arent those usually transparent?
Is it white smoke only when its burning?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 01 September 2013, 19:25:20
I say yes - white smoke does not mean it is burned. Plastic smell is.
With GVG and chore boy you will have it sassed in no time.
The key is not to try too hard ... let it guide you :-)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 01 September 2013, 21:21:47
Wow I know this is off topic but I just vaped 25 mgs of DPT and I loved it!

No visuals at that doses but the taste/ease of inhalation/euphoria was almost exactly the same as dmt!

The body high is more noticable but in a good way to me. It is a very positive substance.

I should be trying out 50 mgs soon and I plan on letting all of the dmt enthusiasts know how it is :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 01 September 2013, 22:33:20
***Update***

Ringo DeathStarr has some FIRE DMT!!!!!!!!!

So i was enticed by his $70 gram of DMT... great reviews and plenty of transactions!

Anyways, TBH it smelled a lot like ether, but that could simply be his sythesis.

After packing 75MG into the Volcano... i spent about an enternity floating around forest world talking to aliens...

Great product, great price, great trip... TY Ringo DeathStarr!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 02 September 2013, 22:52:17
***Update***

Ringo DeathStarr has some FIRE DMT!!!!!!!!!

So i was enticed by his $70 gram of DMT... great reviews and plenty of transactions!

Anyways, TBH it smelled a lot like ether, but that could simply be his sythesis.

After packing 75MG into the Volcano... i spent about an enternity floating around forest world talking to aliens...

Great product, great price, great trip... TY Ringo DeathStarr!
Bravo Edawg!
So big question now that you have been trying the bark extracted spice do you notice a difference between it and lab synthed DMT like RP's? If so can you elaborate in detail?

Ringo's pharma is intriguing me after (ithink it was) wavelength's review. I wish he would offer the harmala by itself. I am finally feeling ready again. It has been well over a month since my last mind blowing, life changing, soul saving lesson. It has taken some time to fully re-integrate and prepare my psyche. Easing back into a yoga practice and meditating every night. Slowly but surely priming the well...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ianfleming on 03 September 2013, 19:46:57
Has anyone heard anything from Supernaut? I was supposed to be getting something from the guy but it never showed up, he's not responding to messages either (been almost a seek since my first message). His vendor page says he was last seen 6days ago.

(just to clarify, I'm not saying he cheated me, it's a long story but the item I'm waiting on was free)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 03 September 2013, 19:56:57
I finally made an order from fractalbliss today. I've been wanting to for a while because of his photos ::)

If i enjoy his services I will be vouching for him :P
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 04 September 2013, 05:32:05
Has anyone heard anything from Supernaut? I was supposed to be getting something from the guy but it never showed up, he's not responding to messages either (been almost a seek since my first message). His vendor page says he was last seen 6days ago.

(just to clarify, I'm not saying he cheated me, it's a long story but the item I'm waiting on was free)

sounds like a holiday to me - best case, forgot his password or got busted - worst case.
but i would not worry about him not answering if he is not even logging in :)

Wow I know this is off topic but I just vaped 25 mgs of DPT and I loved it!

No visuals at that doses but the taste/ease of inhalation/euphoria was almost exactly the same as dmt!

The body high is more noticable but in a good way to me. It is a very positive substance.

I should be trying out 50 mgs soon and I plan on letting all of the dmt enthusiasts know how it is :)

@wavelength, this deserves +1. why, may I ask you, did you decide to try this?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 04 September 2013, 06:20:07
@wavelength, this deserves +1. why, may I ask you, did you decide to try this?
Why did I decide to smoke it?

I just felt that because it's so closely related to dmt that it would shine with that ROA and well, it sort of does.

The trip is just as quick as dmt, and I'm sure if I inhaled enough vapor it would take me to a similar place.

It is a fascinating compound really, I just ordered some DMT but I would really enjoy to have them both at the same time and experiment a little ::)

I honestly doubt that will happen though. I'll probably lose the urge once my gram from fractal shows up.

Thanks for the +1.
if it sounds interesting to you I would definitely say pick some dpt up, and convert some to freebase!
I think just about anyone who enjoys DMT, will enjoy DPT :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: MLG22 on 04 September 2013, 10:21:27
Gotta say thanks to RingoDeathstar for his prompt service and great product! Will be the only DMT vendor I ever buy from!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 04 September 2013, 11:54:22
You don't need 3 machines. I've successfully loaded over 250mg in one machine. It's much more convenient too. And this is another reason why to put more than the minimum amount of wire gauze required when making a machine.

dmtnexus I have a question about this. How do you load so much in one machine? Do you put dmt and melt it in doses? Or you put and melt it all in one?

And another question. Lately I have noticed that the vapor is harsher than usual and I suspect that I burn it because the dmt is melted just on top of the brillo. The way I do it is that I first place the brillo inside the bottle and then load it and melt my dmt by heating up the neck of the bottle. I think I do something wrong here. Can you guys tell me how to load my dmt on the brillo more efficiently?

Thanks in advance,

Adamiz
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: soulkontroller on 04 September 2013, 22:33:47
hey everyone.....come over to my vendor page and check out DMTree...the most efficient way to smoke DMT if you smoke weed

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/cc61d2fb05
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 05 September 2013, 04:14:28
You don't need 3 machines. I've successfully loaded over 250mg in one machine. It's much more convenient too. And this is another reason why to put more than the minimum amount of wire gauze required when making a machine.

dmtnexus I have a question about this. How do you load so much in one machine? Do you put dmt and melt it in doses? Or you put and melt it all in one?

And another question. Lately I have noticed that the vapor is harsher than usual and I suspect that I burn it because the dmt is melted just on top of the brillo. The way I do it is that I first place the brillo inside the bottle and then load it and melt my dmt by heating up the neck of the bottle. I think I do something wrong here. Can you guys tell me how to load my dmt on the brillo more efficiently?

Thanks in advance,

Adamiz
After reading so much about your mis-fires I would consider buying a preloaded machine from dmtnexus and examine how it looks before you go. I was going to upload some pics of mine for you but the only image uploader I knew of that was a tor site was hosted by freedomhosting.

Have you looked at the pics on dmt nexus website here?
http://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/The_Machine
and https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=5111 (this post has a lot of Q and A)
You can access this from TOR and I recommend creating a profile (using TOR)  because the images members post are then viewable. I have spent hours learning there.
I use the small soon that came with my mg scale and make a pile on top of the mesh (course steel wool not brillo) and with the bottle upright I use a bic with the flame 1cm over the lip in in a circular motion until it melts enough to stick into the top of the mesh.
If all else fails you bro look at the nontoxic Changa/enhanced leaf recipe here and hit that shit in a bong
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=39132
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 05 September 2013, 11:40:33
Can you guys tell me how to load my dmt on the brillo more efficiently?

Thanks in advance,

Adamiz
Well, i can tell you how i do this... Put your steel wool, chorboy or what ever you are using on a flat surface. Then start to heat it with (preferably) torch lighter until it starting to get red. Wait a few secods and put your dmt on top of it(it`ll melt into a wool). One thing that you have to know is when you put dmt on top of the hot wool it should not produce any smoke. After that load it into the bottle and you ready to go. Hope that helps. :)
best vibes,
BlazingSatva.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 05 September 2013, 16:57:25
After reading so much about your mis-fires I would consider buying a preloaded machine from dmtnexus and examine how it looks before you go. I was going to upload some pics of mine for you but the only image uploader I knew of that was a tor site was hosted by freedomhosting.

Have you looked at the pics on dmt nexus website here?

Hi princeblack. Well I have checked all possible links for the machine and I believe I have done a good job fixing one. I thought in the past buying one of dmtnexus preloaded machines but I live in a country where the customs are strict and I don't want to risk it.

Can you guys tell me how to load my dmt on the brillo more efficiently?

Thanks in advance,

Adamiz
Well, i can tell you how i do this... Put your steel wool, chorboy or what ever you are using on a flat surface. Then start to heat it with (preferably) torch lighter until it starting to get red. Wait a few secods and put your dmt on top of it(it`ll melt into a wool). One thing that you have to know is when you put dmt on top of the hot wool it should not produce any smoke. After that load it into the bottle and you ready to go. Hope that helps. :)
best vibes,
BlazingSatva.

Hm, yeah I never thought about that and I find it more effective. Will try on my next try someday.

Some more questions though. I suppose that I spread the DMT all over the brillo right?
And what do I do if when I put my DMT on it, it doesn't melt completely? Can I try and heat it afterwards?
And finally, after it is melted on the brillo should I wait or do something else before putting it back to the bottle. Because I suppose my DMT with be a bit in liquid form.

Thank you all

Adamiz
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 06 September 2013, 05:58:50
uh-huh ... some interesting questions.

Why not simply keep the mesh inside the bottle neck all the time, put some DMT on top and melt it - simply hold a lighter close to it and it will run down the mesh, no need to warm up the bottle neck, just keep the fire few millimeters away from it so that there is no smoke forming? If you need to load 5x as much - repeat it 5 times ... Then go for a hit.

Here is an image uploader by the way: http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 06 September 2013, 09:25:20

Hm, yeah I never thought about that and I find it more effective. Will try on my next try someday.

Some more questions though. I suppose that I spread the DMT all over the brillo right?
You can try it, but i simply sprinkle it in a middle of the wool.
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And what do I do if when I put my DMT on it, it doesn't completely? Can I try and heat it afterwards?
If there is lots of unmelted spice you  can melt it with torch lighter(and next time you`ll have to heat your mesh a bit more to get it all melted at once. this is trial and error...). One note that you have to keep in mind: don`t bring the lighter too close and not under direct angle or you will start to burn the spice. Keep your lighter maybe at 30-40 degrees angle and slowly move it closer until dmt will start to melt.
If there is few unmelted particles here and there its ok. You can load it into the bottle. Melted spice will hold these particles. Main reason of all these premelting techniques is because when you simply sprinkle dmt on top of the wool, most of it will fall through the mesh. Thats why its better premelt it and catch all the spice.
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And finally, after it is melted on the brillo should I wait or do something else before putting it back to the bottle. Because I suppose my DMT with be a bit in liquid form.
Well its not that liquid, closer to oily consistency. So you can load it right away(as i do).
best vibes,
BlazingSatva.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 06 September 2013, 09:42:49
uh-huh ... some interesting questions.

Why not simply keep the mesh inside the bottle neck all the time, put some DMT on top and melt it - simply hold a lighter close to it and it will run down the mesh, no need to warm up the bottle neck, just keep the fire few millimeters away from it so that there is no smoke forming? If you need to load 5x as much - repeat it 5 times ... Then go for a hit.

Here is an image uploader by the way: http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/
Yeh this method can work too. But... If you put dmt this way and your mesh not dense enough, part of the spice will fall through it into the bottle. Also if your mesh is quit dense and can hold all the spice when you`ll start to evaporate there is can be some problems. It will be harder to inhale since the mesh is too dense and won`t let enough air come through of it. This can give you one problem. As a mesh won`t pass enough of the air eventually it start to heat more and there is bigger risk to burn your spice. Of course if thats happen you can move your lighter further away if you starting to fill that you burning dmt. Anyway i found that it is better to you less dense mesh as it gives you more flexibilty. At least it works fine for me. :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 06 September 2013, 11:44:29
Thanks people! Your advises have been noted. Will see what happens in the next try someday.

Cheers

Adamiz
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 07 September 2013, 00:39:41
dmtnexus I have a question about this. How do you load so much in one machine? Do you put dmt and melt it in doses? Or you put and melt it all in one?
If it's white fluffy DMT, max you can put on the gauze is 25mg. If it's yellow DMT, you can put 50mg as it's more dense. So you would have to load it 5-10 times to achieve 250mg.

If all else fails you bro look at the nontoxic Changa/enhanced leaf recipe here and hit that shit in a bong
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=39132
Yeah, I too think that adamiz should definitely try changa. Machine simply doesn't work for some people.

Hi princeblack. Well I have checked all possible links for the machine and I believe I have done a good job fixing one. I thought in the past buying one of dmtnexus preloaded machines but I live in a country where the customs are strict and I don't want to risk it.
I've sent a couple of machines to your location and not had a problem. I'm sure your existing machine is 100% fine though.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 07 September 2013, 02:19:28
If all else fails you bro look at the nontoxic Changa/enhanced leaf recipe here and hit that shit in a bong
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=39132
Yeah, I too think that adamiz should definitely try changa. Machine simply doesn't work for some people.

Well yes, I have been thinking about it and I think I will try it when I can afford the money and the time to search about it.
Many people talk about changa but currently I don't know anything about it and it will take some time to learn about it from all the different perspectives before actually trying it. (effects, usage, dose etc..) I have mainly focused on freebase DMT and "ignored" other substances. My current thought is to slowly slowly perfect my machine method and start to save some money to buy the "miraculous" GVG at some point.

But still, I have lately the feeling that the problem is not the method I use but my mental state/fears/expectations or whatever you can call those. I have seen my friend having sooo different effects using the same bottle and product. As BlackIris and others said to me, the problem is that I think too much and don't let myself and my ego free to the experience.

I still try my best to improve in both the mental and technical/practical part of it. I am sure that one day I will succeed.

Thanks again for everything, without you people I would not have accomplished even the half of what I have done until now.

Love you all

Adamiz

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: adamiz on 09 September 2013, 18:07:09
Ok guys, I researched about changa and enchanted leaf. I found it very interesting to be honest.

So if I got this clearly, all I need is freebase dmt, my preferred herb and some acetone right?

Any herb you would suggest?
For the moment I like the idea of either peppermint or caapi. Anyone that has experience with those?
And another question, should the herb fresh or dry?

Any more information or advices are more than appreciated!

Best regards,

Adamiz
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 09 September 2013, 19:24:13
Hey guys, just stopping by here to vouch for fractalbliss.

His DMT is definitely very pure and loving! :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 11 September 2013, 06:33:26
Hey guys, just stopping by here to vouch for fractalbliss.

His DMT is definitely very pure and loving! :)

Cool! Before you finish it off we hope to hear a trip report!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 11 September 2013, 07:45:07
Want to add to the subject of the mesh size. Few days ago i decided to try dmt from my second extraction. :D I didn`t want full breakthrough experience so i premelted 30mg  and loaded it into a bottle. Well in a few words i failed it. :P Don`t know why but this time i made mesh probably two times bigger than it needed. It was almost impossible to vape the spice properly. When i move a lighter closer to the mesh dmt was starting to burn. Because mesh is big and take more heat therefore hard to control the temperature. When i move a lighter further away there is almost no vapor. So i smoked maybe half of that dose maybe less. Later that day i diceded to smoke what i thought leftovers. So i made that mesh probably twice smaller and vaped that stuff. God damn it! It was intense, considering amount of dmt that should be there. I almost brokethrough.  :o This time i got VERY powerfull stuff and very mental without bodyload. Dunno if i ever got something like that from silkroad. Maybe trojan`s(too bad that he gone) dmt was close to my own stuff. Right now i`m a bit nervous and scary to try it again. Anyway when i do i`ll try to write some trip report.
best vibes,
BlazingSatva.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: cyanate on 11 September 2013, 15:49:53
Great thread, thank you
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Intraterrestrial on 11 September 2013, 18:03:36
anybody experienced Machine Elves dmt yet?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 11 September 2013, 18:58:04
Lol no machine elves here, usually some African goddess with dreadlocks, a Shiva, or a overwhelming feeling of a supreme being looking over me, kind of like a parental figure but the love from them is overwhelming.  Sometimes to the point that this glow feels like it will rip me apart.

If i pass all these tests/barriers, i am usually taken by the entity to another world or plateau.  Here is where i loose all consciousness of who i was and where i came from...quite confused how i even made it to the reality beyond realities.  Anwyays i'll transpire here and slowly slip back to the person i am here in the reality.

Amazing stuff DMT.  It truly is a key to indulge in paranormal and humanly impossible experiences.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 12 September 2013, 01:48:59
Anybody in need of a vaporiser? I've been recommended Arizer Extreme Q (http://arizer.com/store/en/arizer-heaters/21-aroma-arizer-extreme-q-heater.html). From what I've been just told, it works even better than Volcano, and the price is only $239.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 12 September 2013, 09:31:17
BlazingSatva, congratulations on your extraction - sounds like you potentially got more than you bargained for :) On the subject of mesh - why do you feel that pulling it in and out of the bottle neck gives you better result than just simply keeping it there?

@Intraterrestrial, I also saw their listings, but have not heard anybody reliable vouching for them. If you do try or hear anything please drop a line here. One thing is certain - they certainly have a very good user name!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 13 September 2013, 07:34:15
incogmagnito, thanks. Yeah i was really impressed with my second extraction. ;D Regarding your question... Just to give you a clue i use little miller beer bottle for machine and medium density mesh ball. So if i`ll simply srpinkle dmt on top of the mesh most of it fall into the bottle. If i`ll heat the mesh and then premelt dmt on top of it, there is big chance to burn it with direct flame. When you take first hit you can more precisily control the distance between mesh with dmt and lighter but after that its much harder to do. In other words when i put mesh with premelted dmt inside of the bottle(and that part where is dmt lies must look at the bottom) i have more control and don`t have to worry that i`ll burn. Of course this is only my experience and i like it.
best vibes,
BlazingSatva.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 13 September 2013, 08:40:51
wow. this is complex, BlazingS!
If it works for you - my hat goes off.

EDIT: What I've seen working so far is the following:
1. get a piece of well burned mesh (to remove any lubrication left of it)
2. put it inside the machine neck
3. flip machine upside-down on hard surface and compress your mesh with a pencil or something else that fits all the way thru the whole in the bottom (do not worry about it getting too compressed for you not to be able to inhale thru unless you are a hydrolic pressing machine)
4. flip it back up, push mesh just a tiny bit in, so that when you look from the side it is just under the edge of the glass, put your spice on the top, melt it with a lighter without touching it
5. blast off!

This would seem to be a process that would save some fiddling.
Concern that I have with your process is that melting DMT first and moving it later will leave some of it on your fingers and on the bottom of your machine.

Be safe,
IM
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Asal88 on 14 September 2013, 12:04:59
Just want to give a quick review for dmtnexus

I bought a preloaded machine off him out of convenience, as I was finding difficulty making my own.

So anyway after finding the right time I sit back and vape the hit.

After my second or third inhale I quicky placed the pipe down as I fell back onto my bed.

I was overcome with a sense of peace and bliss as I lay there and I started to see some beautiful patterns :).

I could feel myself slipping away as this sensation washed over me.

I didn't break through though (not that I was particulary bothered) and eventually the feeling subsided.


I am very happy with the quality of the product, and if I hadn't slightly fucked up one of my inhales I probably would have broken through.

I am certainly going to be a repeat customer, so I'll post back if I manage to go deeper ;)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 14 September 2013, 14:15:54
wow. this is complex, BlazingS!
If it works for you - my hat goes off.
Maybe it is sounds complicated as i tried to describe all details that i found out during my experiments with Machine. But in reality there is nothing spacial. :) 
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EDIT: What I've seen working so far is the following:
1. get a piece of well burned mesh (to remove any lubrication left of it)
2. put it inside the machine neck
3. flip machine upside-down on hard surface and compress your mesh with a pencil or something else that fits all the way thru the whole in the bottom (do not worry about it getting too compressed for you not to be able to inhale thru unless you are a hydrolic pressing machine)
4. flip it back up, push mesh just a tiny bit in, so that when you look from the side it is just under the edge of the glass, put your spice on the top, melt it with a lighter without touching it
5. blast off!
Its ok too... But as i mentioned earlier i don`t like the idea of exposed dmt to direct light and worry that i can burn it let say after a second hit. I`ll report back when i try it.
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This would seem to be a process that would save some fiddling.
Concern that I have with your process is that melting DMT first and moving it later will leave some of it on your fingers and on the bottom of your machine.

Be safe,
IM
I don`t have problems neither of these.
best vibes,
BlazingSatva.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 14 September 2013, 16:10:21
BlazingSatva, you are right - why fix what is working :)
disregard my message!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: TestUser on 18 September 2013, 11:06:14
Hello Deemsters on SR !!

I am hoping to become one of you, finally...

anybody experienced Machine Elves dmt yet?

I did my first order on SR and i chose the vendor "Machine Elves". I must admit, that i have absouletly no experience with dmt so far, so i just have to trust him. I did of course try to gather as much information about it as possible.

I had a friendly conversation with the vendor beforehand, and it seemed to me, he was serious. He seems to extract on his own, and has experience with both, extraction and using.

The transaction went smoothly, he did not require FE, and the package arrived in time.
The substance is crystalin like sugar with a reddish/orange tone, and has a special odour wich reminds me a bit of plastic fumes.

I have not tested the substance so far, because i had no time for it, was in an unhealthy condition, and still was a bit anxious about it.

i plan to vap it with my new extreme-q vapourizer, a device similar to the volcano, but half as pricy.

i guess i will give it a try today, and will be back for a trip report, as soon as i have grown some balls ;)

greetz,

Testusr
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 18 September 2013, 16:40:26
Can anyone here recommend a vendor for jungle spice?

Also, I'm in the US and there aren't any US vendors for jungle spice so there is also the issue of it making it through customs....

I would appreciate any pointers! :P

Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: TestUser on 19 September 2013, 20:19:53
Hello Deemsters of SR

I am back for reporting my first dmt- experience ever.
i have had some decent high dose mushroom and some lsd trips, and i thought i would be ready for what dmt had to show me...

I WAS DEFINETELY WRONG about being ready...

okay.. here is the experience:

Part 1: First contact

I managed to get a sample of yellow sugar with weight of aprox. 0.06 grams, wich i doubt was very accurate on my scales, witch has a range of 0-200grams.

I parted it into a small and a "big" pile of maybe 0.01 and 0.05 grams.

i then put the smaller pile ontop of some herb into the chamber of my vaporizer. (Arizer Extreme-Q)

I then calmed myself, took a comfortable seat on my easy chair, with the vaporizer to my left sitting on a small table. I turned it on, to 220°C and watched the temperature rise. suddenly some vapor was visible, and i took the hose with the mouthpiece into my mouth and took a deep slow breath.

It tasted just like the smell of the substance, a bit plastic-like, but not unpleasant. I wasen't shure if i should hold my breath for a moment, and got it out after some seconds, with some vapor visibly going out of my mouth.

I took another breath from the hose, but there was nearly no taste left, so i thought, the test dose was already vapourized completely.

I noticed a slight ringing in my ears with a light decressendo, and felt a quite strong pressure in the back of my head. I then closed my eyes and had the rush of a vision before my eyes with three entities in front of me, witch i had once encountered on a semilanceata mushroom trip.
But it was just a slight flash before my eyes.
When i opended my eyes nothing special was noticed. No psychedelic morphing or anything. The ringing in my ears was already getting away, but the pressure in the back of my head remained a bit longer.
I felt happy and was optimistic, and i accounted the "first contact" with dmt a success.

I planed to wait at least one hour to vapourize the rest of the Dose...

Part 2 "Just a bit too much"

I took the other half of my pre-made Pile of 0.06 grams that also showed 0.06 grams on my scales. I guess it is not that accurate on those small amounts of weight.
I thought, okay - should be enough for a "breakthrough-experience", cause that was what i was aiming for in my foolishness. But how should i know...

i did it just the same as with the small dose. put it into the chamber of the vaporizer on top of some vaped-weed-leftovers. then i waited a small moment, to make myself ready for it. thought: No matter what comes: Take three tokes. Just fucking do it... ready ? ready ! okay...
i pushed the power button, and watched the heat go up. when it reached 160° I began to take the first deep breath. It tasted the same way, and was no problem to hold in. No burning or bad taste. Damn good vaporizer.
I began to hear a sound like a metal needle that scratches on a metal surface. and strong psychedelic visuals occured almost instantly.
Although i planned to close my eyes, i left them open during the second toke. I felt a cold chill inside and the sound went louder.
then i finally closed my eyes, and took the third toke....
..i was like spiraling upwards a gigantic fractal and some things instantly came to my mind, nearly to fast to get, but just nearly. first thing was an iconized baby cat, and then something unspeakable, maybe demonic thing, that went together with the most intense fear of death i have ever felt in my life.
Okay, that was it, overdone, to much.... HELP !
At this moment i suddenly was working against the experience with every bit of my body going through convulsions of refusal.
OMGOMG oh my fucking GOD What have i done ??
I opened my eyes in terror, seeing and feeling a strong psychedelic morphing reality of my living room. I felt absolutely miserably and absolutely wished it to stop. I thought i had really overdone it, and was going to die...
of course i did not die.. but i felt a cold feeling in my whole body. it felt like a centralisation of my blood circulation, and i felt cold sweat on my whole body.
My god, it felt so much like almost dying.
.. somehow i managed to get up from this static shock like feeling from my easy chair to my couch, where i just layed down and closed my eyes. (Luckily my wife was not at home to witness my misery)

.. the descend from the skies or was it more the ascension from hell or the resourrection from the deadlike paralysis, went in steps, just like a bunch of leaves shot from a cannon, wich collided with a barrier not to overcome, and then slowly swinging down back to earth.
bit by bit i regathered my balance, and my feeling went from misery and refuse to some kind of understanding and comprehension what just had happened.
When life was back "normal" again drifted into a sleep on my couch, and awoke around like 3 hours later.

At this point i was still unable to put into words, what had just happened.
Later in the evening a good friend and fellow pychonaut phoned, and i talked about the experience.

The next day, i told my wife about the experience.

I think now, it was a good experience, though it was a tough lesson for me to learn. I dont know how long it will take, until i am ready for the next try, but i will definetely go with a smaller dose.

I don't think the "Breakthrough" was missed because i underdosed. I simply was unable to let it all go.

i was definetly NOT READY FOR this kind of psychedelic overdose. No way.

Nice to know, where you really stand.

thank you all

sincerely yours, TestUser



Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 19 September 2013, 22:05:09
@TestUser, welcome and +1 for sharing this.

I would give you more for being able to put your trip into words, but this might have to wait for 72 hours.

this experience is not surprising - no matter how much you read and what people tell you - nothing can prepare one for full one DMT experience. and I agree with your assessment that the issue you probably encountered is resistance to letting go. Mediation and breathing exercises might help.

Sounds like your vapouriser is a good one. my understanding is that 180C would be just fine to do the job.

Be safe,
IM
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 20 September 2013, 09:14:29
TestUser, i absolutly understand what you are talking about. I remember my first few experiences and it was quite frightening to say the least and at the same time unbelievably beautiful. :) Of course i wasn`t ready too for this kind of crazy ride beyond the deepest levels of human consciousness. I love this magical substance. It almost feels like dmt was gifted to a humankind by the higher intelligence from far far away distant future(as we human beings would call it).  8)
best vibes,
BlazingSatva.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: TestUser on 20 September 2013, 18:01:42
Thank you both for the welcome, and the warm words.

@IM
I am myself quite astonished, that i was able to put it into words, and even more that i even like how i put it.
i am also quite happy, that you as a more experienced user second my thoughts or conclusion about why i "failed".
Althogh it felt like a great fail, when i had the experience, i doesen't feel as if i failed there from the point of view i have now.

I think i will meditate or focus more on the attitude i am entering the experience with, cause the right attitude might make it easier to let go. i guess its about not to want anything at all, or at least not too much.

@BlazingSatva
Although there was nearly nothing "beautiful", except for the neat baby cat, in my recent experience, it was a beautiful lesson for me to learn. And this is magical. It seems foolish to be grateful for such horror, but.. that's just the way i feel about it now. This is real magic. I love psychedelics for it, and dmt seems to be just IT, like the quintessence of psychedelics.
Jaeah it seems as if dmt comes from or is an image of beyond time and space, from the point where all time and space will finally evolve to, if i understand your beatiful last statement correctly.

greetings,

TestUser.

I will keep you updated on more experience, as soon i am ready for any.




Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ExperienceAll on 21 September 2013, 06:31:27
Hello brothers. I just received my GVG Sherlock vaporizer and am getting ready to purchase some DMT and I was wonder if DeemzBeemz quality is worth the price of about 0.95 coins for a gram versus RingoDeathstars for about 0.66?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 21 September 2013, 13:52:28
Thank you both for the welcome, and the warm words.

@IM
I am myself quite astonished, that i was able to put it into words, and even more that i even like how i put it.
i am also quite happy, that you as a more experienced user second my thoughts or conclusion about why i "failed".
Althogh it felt like a great fail, when i had the experience, i doesen't feel as if i failed there from the point of view i have now.

I think i will meditate or focus more on the attitude i am entering the experience with, cause the right attitude might make it easier to let go. i guess its about not to want anything at all, or at least not too much.

@BlazingSatva
Although there was nearly nothing "beautiful", except for the neat baby cat, in my recent experience, it was a beautiful lesson for me to learn. And this is magical. It seems foolish to be grateful for such horror, but.. that's just the way i feel about it now. This is real magic. I love psychedelics for it, and dmt seems to be just IT, like the quintessence of psychedelics.
Jaeah it seems as if dmt comes from or is an image of beyond time and space, from the point where all time and space will finally evolve to, if i understand your beatiful last statement correctly.

greetings,

TestUser.

I will keep you updated on more experience, as soon i am ready for any.


I would certainly not call that a failure. But one thing is clear that you did not breakthrough - and it could be either that you fell a bit short on the dose (most likely) or that your ego is truly powerful to a point of being able to anchor you here even on full dose (unlikely) ... try to let it go and not only in hyperspace :)

Be safe,
IM
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: TestUser on 21 September 2013, 15:21:35
Hmm.. Thank you again, IM.

I don't think my Ego is extraordinary strong, but how can onself measure such things.
so maybe it was just unsufficiant dose or technique.

I was a bit unsure about how long to hold my breath after the first toke , and when it let it out after a moment i noticed a lot of vapor coming out as well, that was not absorbed into my body.

greetings, TestUser
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 21 September 2013, 19:43:10
Hmm.. Thank you again, IM.

I don't think my Ego is extraordinary strong, but how can onself measure such things.
so maybe it was just unsufficiant dose or technique.

I was a bit unsure about how long to hold my breath after the first toke , and when it let it out after a moment i noticed a lot of vapor coming out as well, that was not absorbed into my body.

greetings, TestUser

10 seconds should do the job :)
I am sure it is the dose ... not the technique given your vapourizer!
Keep us posted on how it goes,
IM
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 21 September 2013, 20:37:31
Hmm.. Thank you again, IM.

I don't think my Ego is extraordinary strong, but how can onself measure such things.
so maybe it was just unsufficiant dose or technique.

I was a bit unsure about how long to hold my breath after the first toke , and when it let it out after a moment i noticed a lot of vapor coming out as well, that was not absorbed into my body.

greetings, TestUser

I usually count to 10 slowly, the next hit can be tough to get if the first was huge because I can no longer see properly. I have had many one hit breakthroughs on my machine now that my method is perfected.

As for the rough ride you had, in my experience it helps a lot to meditate and maybe even some yoga or meditative physical activity prior to the meditation. A reverent prayer to my higher power asking for openness to the lesson I will receive really makes sets the right atmosphere even for hard teachings. Once my fairy guardian says to me, telepathically of course, "Maybe it would help if you smiled" as she could see I was not letting go of my fear and anxiety. I always have a bit of a wig-out pre-flight.

I have gotten to such a level now that last week she (my guardian) seemed baffled I did DMT at all after the heaviness of experiencing my own death and rebirth (I shared this some pages back) I was asked sternly "Why are you here" and shown that all of my redemption was conditional to spiritual work in real life as I viewed a dark looking cephalopod with hundreds of tentacles who represented what lie in wait if I did not head her. Heavy food for thought to take my intention to a higher level and be sure I am seeking spiritual guidance rather than getting high. I don't know if this is anyone else's experience here but it has been mine after allying myself with certain entities that I kept encountering.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 21 September 2013, 20:55:08
@princeblack49, this sounds awesome - hyperspace guardian angel is an asset.
Are you able to ask questions while there?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: mantidman on 21 September 2013, 23:18:22
Princeblack49 said,

I always have a bit of a wig-out pre-flight.


Is there anyone here who is like really happy or excited before flight?  I have the major wig-outs and almost just back out.... but then realize this is what I want..... what I need...

Spiritual Technology.... Sacred Geometry... Psychedelic in the Extreme...
 
Also has anyone here in the Brotherhood had a IV DMT experience?  See Rick Strassman.

The IV experience seems to be longer in duration and more of a WTF is happening here experience?

 I just got a nice delivery from Ringo Deathstarr today..... I am already getting those feelings of major wiggedness.... run you fool run!  But there has to be a reason DMT is in almost everything on this planet.... A major clue or major piece of the puzzle of life.... Not to mention it really helps me to get a good nights sleep!
That is a great benefit for me as I have suffered for many years with terrible insomnia....

Have a good one folks...... and just let gooooooooooo!

Stiffneck
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: klemmo on 22 September 2013, 00:36:44
Hmm.. Thank you again, IM.

I don't think my Ego is extraordinary strong, but how can onself measure such things.
so maybe it was just unsufficiant dose or technique.

I was a bit unsure about how long to hold my breath after the first toke , and when it let it out after a moment i noticed a lot of vapor coming out as well, that was not absorbed into my body.

greetings, TestUser

I usually count to 10 slowly, the next hit can be tough to get if the first was huge because I can no longer see properly. I have had many one hit breakthroughs on my machine now that my method is perfected.


You can count to 10 after a DMT hit? Respect!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 22 September 2013, 01:25:17
You can count to 10 after a DMT hit? Respect!

lol after each hit i take i count to 20 or 30 then exhale and start taking the next hit. you need to to make sure you get the right dose!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 22 September 2013, 09:29:13
You can count to 10 after a DMT hit? Respect!

LOL +1!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: TestUser on 22 September 2013, 13:11:15
Ho, the brotherhood's gettin crowded :D

Good to hear everyone's suffering from some kind of anxiety before doing it.

According to all your Posts my Plan now is the following:
I will do some Breathing Exercise before vaping dmt next time.
And then try to get the maximum out of the first toke, and if still able do it again.

Maybe vaping some Pot before dmt could be sufficient, as i have the feeling, that just vaping pot without use of tabacco, has a relaxing effect on the lungs, wich could allow me to take more with one single toke. Has anyone of you guys any experience with pot & dmt together ?

@princeblack
Thank you for your insights, they seem helpful to me.

greetings, TestUser
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 22 September 2013, 15:16:34
so a little story about anxiety...well i am about as chicken as they come when it comes to DMT.   Not because i dont like the effects, i just know how powerful it can be, and quite personally i have died (in my head) and moved on.

Anyways, the other day after popping about 3x2mg xanax i decided to load up about 100mg of DMT freebase.  Well i thought i was going to meet my maker....instead, i saw NOTHING.  Absolutely nothing.  The body rush was there, but any sort of visual/mind blowing experience was not even faintly visible.

So rule of thumb, fuck the anxiety, and DEFINITELY no benzos before a blast off!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ExperienceAll on 23 September 2013, 04:06:03
Anyone that can compare DeemzBeemz and RingoDeathstarr's DMT?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 23 September 2013, 05:12:59
Anyone that can compare DeemzBeemz and RingoDeathstarr's DMT?
well i havent tried deemz but based on his reviews and the photos of his product, he has the purest domestic dmt available right now.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DeemzBeemz on 24 September 2013, 00:07:54
I would like to chime in on this conversation about the DMT and whether or not mine is more pure. I do not mean to step on anyone's toes on this topic but I would really like to put this to the test. I firmly FIRMLY believe my product is the best (at least domestic, I never see anything that isn't). I put a LOT of time and money into making my DMT to try to product as top quality that you can possibly get. I would seriously like to setup some sort of DMT challenge with other vendors vs my DMT.

Is there anyone willing to do this? If someone trustworthy is very serious about this I will provide some of my own for free as part of the comparison. I would like to encourage other vendors to do the same.


On a side note, I would like to mention that color most certainly has to do with purity. The more white it is, the more pure it is. That is pretty much as simple as it gets. If it has color to it, it has either oxidized from age or has plant fats/impurities in it and the more color it has, the more impurities it has. For reference you can check out this forum thread that is very informal about DMT purity:

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Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Edawg420 on 24 September 2013, 04:23:49
Yeah i have tried DeemzBeemz, RingoDeathStarr, and Rogerpete's product.

I will say DB has my favorite, but Ringo has the price advantage by like 60$.

DB's product is like 99% white and usually sends me straight to some sort of space station.  This was very similar to the effects of KidCasio's pure white crystal he sent me.  (I still have .1 from KC in a shard form I'm going to blast off with one day.)

Its by far the purest, but bang for your buck...i have to stay with RingoDeatStarr.

just for now, i hope to get my hands on that pure goodness soon enough DeemzBeemz.

RP's always been the man to go to if you want a guaranteed good product, but he has the prices cornered and can be quite costly.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: BlazingSatva on 25 September 2013, 10:57:24
DeemzBeemz, can you share some information about your extraction tek(a/b, stb or atb)? But mostly i`m interested how do you achieve that purity? Do you make some defat, carb/water washes etc? Please share some tips and tricks if you can. ;D
best vibes,
BlazingSatva.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DeemzBeemz on 25 September 2013, 15:47:35
I use a similar method to the marsofold method (you can google it and it should be the first link). It is an acid to base extraction. My method is heavily modified from this because marsofolds method is very primitive yet still the same basic process. Most folks do a straight to base extraction because it is so much easier and much less messy and time consuming (at least the amount of time you have to put in yourself) but this is why DMT turns out yellow most of the time. When you do straight to base you have to leave your solvent in it for 2 weeks. The solvent only stays in mine for 20 minutes and this is why mine is so white. The longer your solvent sits in your MHRB (or whatever material you process) the more yellow it becomes. I get a much lower yield (nearly half) because it is so white.

I hope this sheds a bit of light on my DMT. You can make my pure white just by following marsofolds tek. I won't give away the secret of what tools and such I use but marsofolds is the cheap way to get the white DMT that I get.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: wavelength on 25 September 2013, 18:27:22
Is there anyone willing to do this? If someone trustworthy is very serious about this I will provide some of my own for free as part of the comparison. I would like to encourage other vendors to do the same.

Well deemz I've gotten dmt from rogerpete, moonunit, fractalbliss, elvis, and ringo.
before i got on the road i had a friend that made his own extract and his product was probably the whitest ive had."
I had another friend that made yellow, and ANOTHER one that made red jungle spice.

I'm basically very experienced with dmt and I would be able to provide an unbiased opinion on your product.

I'm going to buy your dmt eventually but its probably going to take a while.
If you want someone to "sample" it and post here I can but like i said  I'm most likely going to buy from you eventually.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ExperienceAll on 25 September 2013, 19:29:48
To all of you that have DMT locally available to purchase: How much does a g usually cost?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DeemzBeemz on 25 September 2013, 22:35:01
Is there anyone willing to do this? If someone trustworthy is very serious about this I will provide some of my own for free as part of the comparison. I would like to encourage other vendors to do the same.

Well deemz I've gotten dmt from rogerpete, moonunit, fractalbliss, elvis, and ringo.
before i got on the road i had a friend that made his own extract and his product was probably the whitest ive had."
I had another friend that made yellow, and ANOTHER one that made red jungle spice.

I'm basically very experienced with dmt and I would be able to provide an unbiased opinion on your product.

I'm going to buy your dmt eventually but its probably going to take a while.
If you want someone to "sample" it and post here I can but like i said  I'm most likely going to buy from you eventually.

I have given out over 5 grams in samples otherwise I would simply provide you with one but if all these vendors would like to entertain this idea, I would still provide one. Anyway, I look forward to your purchase as I believe you would be incredibly impressed.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DeemzBeemz on 26 September 2013, 15:18:20
To all of you that have DMT locally available to purchase: How much does a g usually cost?

DMT sells around here for between 100-120 per gram depending on who you talk to. At festivals its always 100 per gram no matter what when I go.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ExperienceAll on 26 September 2013, 16:22:49
To all of you that have DMT locally available to purchase: How much does a g usually cost?

DMT sells around here for between 100-120 per gram depending on who you talk to. At festivals its always 100 per gram no matter what when I go.

Thank you! I was offered DMT once at a festival but didn't take up the offer because I was FACEDDD. I dunno even know anyone around my area selling or making it. Excited to receive my half g from you!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DeemzBeemz on 26 September 2013, 17:42:17
To all of you that have DMT locally available to purchase: How much does a g usually cost?

DMT sells around here for between 100-120 per gram depending on who you talk to. At festivals its always 100 per gram no matter what when I go.

Thank you! I was offered DMT once at a festival but didn't take up the offer because I was FACEDDD. I dunno even know anyone around my area selling or making it. Excited to receive my half g from you!

Oh I wasn't aware that you were one of those orders. Well I look forward to you trying out my product! =D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: jhancock1984 on 26 September 2013, 20:12:12
Hi all, just wanted to stop in and share my smoking method.  It's a do it yourself method you can put together for under ten bucks if you own a pair of scissors and some rubbing alcohol, if you don't well then it may cost you a bit more.

Anyway it's a tire gauge crack pipe.  Just like people use to smoke crack only modified a bit to account for the low vaporization point of DMT.  Basically what you do is you buy a metal tire gauge and some copper chore boy screens.  When you get home cut off a wad of chore boy and soak it in rubbing alcohol to get any machine residue off.  While that's going on take apart the tire gauge so you're left with only the metal stem piece, this will serve as your pipe.  Now swish the chore boy around a bit in the alcohol and then pull it out.  Shake it a bit to get the extra alcohol off and set it on a surface to dry.  Now run the rest of your rubbing alcohol through your tire gauge to remove any residue from that and then swab it out with a bit of paper towel and whatever long instrument you can find to push the paper towel through (you'll need this latter for inserting your screens).

Once the pipe and the chore boys are dry it's time to put everything together.  Grab your scissors and cut two dime sized wads off your cleaned chore boy and roll them both up into balls.  Toss these balls against a counter or other hard surface to remove any non-attached copper bits so you don't inhale them latter on.  Now take your first screen and push it into your pipe followed by the second.  Set the opposite end of the pipe against your counter top and use the long instrument you used before (I use kabob skewers but a wire coat hanger would work too) to push the screens all the way down and against the counter top.  This will flatten them out and form them into the appropriate shape.

Now, use your long instrument to push the screens back the other way.  Push until one screen comes out, leaving just one behind.  Turn the pipe around, push the left over screen down just a little bit so the second screen will fit, and load your DMT.  Now replace the secondary screen.  Essentially what we've done is made a two screen crack pipe and sandwiched the DMT between the two screens.  This allows the primary screen to serve as a heat diffuser so your DMT never comes in direct contact with open flame.

Now to smoke it you can use a regular bic lighter or a torch if you prefer.  Either way you want to hold your flame a bit away from the secondary screen while holding the pipe at a downward 45 degree angle..  This will prevent residue from building at the end of your pipe and insure that you don't burn the DMT.  You'll want to draw in a deep slow breath to pull the heat from the flame into the pipe without actually pulling the flame in.  If you're doing it right you should be able to hear your DMT pop and hiss while you can only barely taste it.  If you can taste it and it tastes like burnt plastic you're holding the flame to close and burning your spice.

Once the DMT starts to go you can relax a bit on the flame and make your breathing more shallow to get a big hit.  The pipe will heat up very quickly and if you're doing multiple blast offs you may want to pay attention to where you set your pipe as you're stepping into hyperspace.

It took a lot of practice to get my technique down but assuming I load enough spice (40-50mg) I can blast off by taking one large hit off this pipe, closing my eyes, and holding my breath for as long as I can.  This will usually vape about half the loaded spice and leave enough for another blast off next time I smoke (though I may have to hit it twice since the first hit won't be so big).

Also, if it feels like you don't have enough air flow your screens are too big.  Take them out and cut them down to size so some air can get through.

I hope that helps someone out.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ExperienceAll on 26 September 2013, 21:29:59
To all of you that have DMT locally available to purchase: How much does a g usually cost?

DMT sells around here for between 100-120 per gram depending on who you talk to. At festivals its always 100 per gram no matter what when I go.

Thank you! I was offered DMT once at a festival but didn't take up the offer because I was FACEDDD. I dunno even know anyone around my area selling or making it. Excited to receive my half g from you!

Oh I wasn't aware that you were one of those orders. Well I look forward to you trying out my product! =D
 

Yes sir! I'll leave a nice trip report in here to let everyone know how it is. :D
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: flames on 28 September 2013, 15:49:40
Just tried my first shot at DMT. Been meaning to get around to it for a while, but never had the opportunity.
I got a pre-loaded machine from dmtnexus. It worked fine once i worked out i needed to toke and light at the same time! doh! Remember the instructions doofus!

Once i worked it out and got going i was completely shocked by how overwhelmed i was. Intense buzzing all over my body and buzzing sound. Was feeling a little scared, but remembered to breath and try and let it take me away. I didn't cross to the other side, but it was enjoyable once i got over the initial onslaught - i guess i wasn't really ready for it.

I then followed up with another hit as i knew i hadn't taken it all. Intensity was about he same as the first, but i was scared this time and let it take me on a little journey.

All in all i didn't hit the heights I was hoping for, but in some respects i am quite glad. I have learnt a lesson on how to use the machine etc and to expect the onslaught almost immediately. So i now look forward to getting some more and really launching into hyperspace.

Peace
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 28 September 2013, 19:49:35
@flames, as far as first goes are concerned this is a very good one. thanks for sharing! +1
P.S. Thinking of it I am not sure I have heard of someone having a breakthrough experience on their first ever go.
Or am I wrong, everyone?
Be safe,
IM
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Intraterrestrial on 28 September 2013, 19:55:20
@flames, as far as first goes are concerned this is a very good one. thanks for sharing! +1
P.S. Thinking of it I am not sure I have heard of someone having a breakthrough experience on their first ever go.
Or am I wrong, everyone?
Be safe,
IM

Friend of mine did using the ash/sandwich method with Multi-Exciter's product
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 28 September 2013, 20:15:52
@flames, as far as first goes are concerned this is a very good one. thanks for sharing! +1
P.S. Thinking of it I am not sure I have heard of someone having a breakthrough experience on their first ever go.
Or am I wrong, everyone?
Be safe,
IM

Friend of mine did using the ash/sandwich method with Multi-Exciter's product

Respect! I stand corrected ...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: MachineElves on 29 September 2013, 01:24:24
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Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ExperienceAll on 29 September 2013, 04:02:02
Got my gear from DeemzBeemz. Man this stuff is beautiful... white as fuckin' snow! Should be able to test it out in a couple of days. Excited to use my new Glass Vapor Genie!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Crack Fox on 29 September 2013, 18:17:26
 I recently received two g's from Ringo.. amazing DMT for the price.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 30 September 2013, 05:42:34
Ho, the brotherhood's gettin crowded :D

Good to hear everyone's suffering from some kind of anxiety before doing it.

According to all your Posts my Plan now is the following:
I will do some Breathing Exercise before vaping dmt next time.
And then try to get the maximum out of the first toke, and if still able do it again.

Maybe vaping some Pot before dmt could be sufficient, as i have the feeling, that just vaping pot without use of tabacco, has a relaxing effect on the lungs, wich could allow me to take more with one single toke. Has anyone of you guys any experience with pot & dmt together ?

@princeblack
Thank you for your insights, they seem helpful to me.

greetings, TestUser

Funny TU, I am sitting here reading and avoiding my planned flight. lol. I purposely avoided smoking cannabis because i am almost always a bit stoned when I blast off. Typically I stay sober all day and after 9 I smoke a bowl of kind bud and put the day to rest. I have found that remembering DMT is easier if I avoid cannabis until after. The subject has been debated but it does color the experience somewhat. I would not say it dulls it in intensity just the recall.

I ate some crap food today and my belly is gassy so I may wait til tomorrow. I am at the bottom of a gram of Moon Units' deelish spice and soon to finally delve into some I got from Ringo to change it up. I am still exploring my answer to my guardian so I may wait. I have been focusing on meditation to tune myself for the next time (and this work in general) but the last few days have been relentless with work/life stuff. All good things but passing out the last two night before I could meditate properly.

@ Incogmagnito I actually have not asked questions in hyperspace. I may try it. I am interested in hearing from others who dialogue with entities they meet. Some I have read on the nexus seem to point in the direction that it is best to heed your allies' directions (if they are indeed an ally) I do know that I am finally feeling ready after a long time trying to absorb the gravity of what I was shown. What I do know now and feel in my heart is that we are loved and we are eternal but there is work to do to and the only harm is in avoiding it.

Does anyone know if GGA is still maintaining the OP? I remember him saying he was taking a break. It would be good to be able to freshen up the list with some of the new choices since they seem to be working hard at their craft. I miss his comments. Black Iris too...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 30 September 2013, 23:57:02
Nice one, @prince, I totally agree on GGA! Where are you GGA?

Well, there was some talk of pharmahuasca many pages pack - this is the listing for the MAOI pill that is RIMA and probably one of the most modern ones that requires minimum fasting - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/0a70ef961d

Be safe,
IM
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 01 October 2013, 04:48:20
Yeah it looks like GGA checked out almost 2months ago. Something I have been considering too since I plain need the time for other things. Kinda gravitated to the nexus because they are so focused on topics i want to learn about and I am on a fast from buying and working with the materials SR blessed me with. I check in here out of love though.

That said though I really believe this thread needs some new life and an OP update for the noob deemsters as a resource they can check in on when making decisions. You have my vote Incogmagnito but how to go about it...

My guts are still fucked. I never eat McD's and for some reason I did yesterday and I feel like I have a rock in my gut. Tonight it was two bowls of brown rice and hopefully soon I will be ready for my next journey.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 01 October 2013, 22:15:00
Princeblack, thank you for the confidence!

Lets get GGA back asap as there is much to be done!

Please do not go yourself even if it just means to come by regularly to coach those here with the best practice and the reality check - I shall never forget your reality shattering gun-point story :(

Be safe,
IM
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: psychedelicmind on 01 October 2013, 22:44:55
Hey guys, this is my first time contributing to this thread, but just wanted to give a shout out to Asylum for his amazing DMT. Here is a trip report I wrote on his review page. I felt like sharing it here as well as I felt the quality of the product was so high. :)

I hope you don't mind that it is a duplicate post:


I have never written a trip report before, but I had such a nice trip on Asylum's DMT, that I wanted to share it with the community :)

So, I guess a bit of background would be appropriate before I go into the details of the trip.

Not too long ago, my girlfriend and I broke up. We had been together for about 2.5 years and we had a very intense and passionate relationship where the love between us burned very deep. Towards the end though, I began to realise that we weren't compatible with each other, for various different reasons. Walking away from something as passionate as this relationship is a tough thing to do. After I moved out of our place, I got very down in myself and I became very cynical towards the World, as a whole.

One night I was sitting at home in my parents house, when my mother commented on how down I seemed to be. She asked me what would help me and jokingly, I said a smoke of DMT. My mother is very conservative, but I have spoken to her on occasion about DMT. I would never have considered smoking DMT in front of her or even in her home. Needless to say, I was completely shocked when she told me to blast off if I felt it would really help me.

I thought she was joking, but soon after, I realised she was serious. So, I went away and meditated for a while, as I always do before I smoke DMT. Then I proceeded to measure out a dose for myself and prepared my smoking utensil to blast me off. I was wondering what music I would enjoy for this experience and I decided that I wanted to hear music from the Swedish Hang drum. If you haven't heard this type of music, I would highly recommend it for DMT. For the trip, I listened to it through my ear phones and it absolutely blew me away :)

Here is a ***Clearnet Link*** to a sample of the Swedish Hang Drum music, for those that are curious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anLfInRPPz4

When I blasted off, I held my breath for as long as I could. As soon as I exhaled, I was in another dimension completely, but due to the ear phones, I could still hear the music and I remember being over whelmed at how beautiful the music was.

What followed was absolutely incredible. The colours were absolutely mind blowing. All of a sudden thousands of Native American Indians started appearing. They kept running towards me. They were so colourful and they were chanting as if it was a ritual ceremony. The message I got from them, and they seemed to chant it over and over, was that "Life is beautiful". Deep down, I think that was the exact message that I needed to hear at that moment in time. As I came back to Earth, I was smiling like I hadn't smiled for quite some time and I felt better than I had felt in ages.

That trip really helped me get over my ex girlfriend and move on with  my life. I am really grateful to Asylum, the Silk Road, and everyone involved in it, for providing me with the opportunity to experience the power of something as sacred as DMT. It is something I was looking for, for a very long time. :)

If you've read this far, thank you and remember, Life is beautiful :)

Psy
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: princeblack49 on 02 October 2013, 05:21:35
^^ Plus one PSY! thanks for sharing that report. Beautiful. What a great thing to have a mother who is so open to you being you. Thx for the link too. I love new music.

I was sure tonight would be the night to dig into the last of MU's tan spice I have had for a minute but my guts are still achy. I think a nice bowl of farmer1's skush (if you are in the USA I highly recommend) and some meditation on moving this energy out is more the order of the night.

@incogmagnito- No worries bro. I will be around. You know that night was scary but what I learned form the subsequent DMT experience was maybe the most significant and important life event ever along side the day I stopped using cocaine and alcohol some years ago. I saw an important friend I owe amends to from some BS from those days tonight. I told him about those events and he invited me by to visit soon and to discuss where he has gone with his Buddhism practice. I wish the psychedelics and meditation thread were still alive...
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: incogmagnito on 02 October 2013, 08:49:35
@PB, good point - may be we should resurrect it? lets drop a link here and start posting :)

@PSY, great report! and very happy for you, my friend. you have a very cool mum - respect!!!

Asylum has been around for as long as I remember and always his wares were getting very good reviews.

Be safe you all,
IM
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: psychedelicmind on 02 October 2013, 11:20:22
Cheers guys! My mother is pretty cool in fairness :)

Safe travels to you all :)
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: bandeto962 on 02 October 2013, 15:19:29
I've been thoroughly enjoying my DMT experiences, but I am ready to extend the trip and hopefully make it a bit more easy to navigate and rewarding. Been looking at ordering FractalBliss' pharma kit, or maybe trying out Llama Socks ayahausca kit. Anyone care to chime in on either?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: klemmo on 02 October 2013, 17:04:14
I come back from a DMT trip and the site has gone. FFS...

Anyone want to sell me DMT directly?
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 02 October 2013, 17:41:32
I come back from a DMT trip and the site has gone. FFS...

Anyone want to sell me DMT directly?
I'm on BMR: http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php?p=viewUser&id=104275
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DeemzBeemz on 02 October 2013, 18:15:47
I will be vending on BMR under this name. So for all your DMT needs please just order there.
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: ExperienceAll on 02 October 2013, 18:49:01
I will be vending on BMR under this name. So for all your DMT needs please just order there.

thank jesus!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: klemmo on 02 October 2013, 19:09:46
Am on BMR as a customer. So I'll see you there.
xxx
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: Vatican on 02 October 2013, 20:23:22
I'll continue to sell on BMR under the name of PurityStandard.

Vatican on BMR is not me!!!
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: dmtnexus on 02 October 2013, 20:41:15
I'm on Sheep Marketplace too: http://sheep5u64fi457aw.onion/account/profile/aa6498c24ba6b87e03e738a5d73b6820

I have a 10 day trial account there but if I don't make any sales on Sheep during this time, I won't be paying 1 BTC for a permanent account.

My email address is: dmtnexus@riseup.net
Title: Re: Inter-Galactic Brotherhood of Deemsters (DMT Review Thread - see the OP)
Post by: DeemzBeemz on 03 October 2013, 16:38:35
You can find my offer here on the BMR forum:

http://fec33nz6mhzd54zj.onion/viewtopic.php?pid=51009

This will have all the details you guys need! I look forward to seeing some of you all! I will no longer be visiting these forums unless otherwise needed.