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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: lolol on February 23, 2012, 03:27 am
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=1006.msg122963#msg122963
there is a post I made on the MDMA quality thread, if those posts (by mdmaChamp and Loyal1) get deleted, you'll know why.
basically I think DQB is a "selective scammer" as somebody else put it, he will only send out products occasionally, and offers 70% refund when they do not get to the person.
Wow, such a high refund rate! And so many products not received (check his vendor page - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/57631 , some listings have more success rate than others) why is this? He has good packaging - or so people have said. So why so many products undelivered?
He doesn't send them. It could be the that his packaging isn't that good (contrary to what people say) and that his packages genuinely don't arrive - still another reason not to order from him. This point makes me EXTREMELY suspicious of him, because if his packaging was amazing he would have a high success rate.
Are people really going to moan over 30% loss on a fairly small amount of money - no, it's a higher refund rate than most.
FYI I am using a different alias to my usual because I was going to order speakers from him and didn't want to ruin my buying opportunity should I choose to buy off DQB.
I personally think his product not received rate is suspiciously higher than other pill vendors, and that the fact his refund rate is so high does not match to his random and occasionally abrasive attitude (not to mention the two aliases which are obviously him, why the fuck can't he respond for himself?) - the ups and downs of a coke addiction, probably.
thoughts and experiences welcome.
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when i first came to SR his listings were appealing. after reading many reviews/feedbacks i have my own suspicions that he is a selective scammer. i feel there are plenty of good vendors available that i dont have to risk my money with his. tho some people have recieved product and enjoyed it. personally since i have never ordered from him and i've had luck elsewhere, as well as read great reviews from multiple other vendors, i feel i dont need to risk the buy.
i do wish him luck if he truly is a legit vendor and hopes he gets more of his products to his buyers.
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:-[ Here we go again. why so many people have to talk bad about vendors ........look its very easy let me type big so you understand.
SOMETIMES PACKAGES DON'T REACH THERE DESTINATION, SOMETIMES IT IS OUT OF OUR CONTROL. THEY HAVE SPECIAL PEOPLE THAT ALL DAY
LOOK AT PACKAGES AND FIGURE THINGS OUT. and the comment you made about commenting under another name so you could order from him
do you fucking listen to yourself before you type if you feel he is a bad vendor dont make comments about ordering from him you fucking idiot. And
I swear if one more person says im not real im going to fucking lose it.........GET A LIFE OR BETTER YET KILL YOURSELF FOR BEING SO IGNORANT
Loyal1
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=1006.msg122963#msg122963
there is a post I made on the MDMA quality thread, if those posts (by mdmaChamp and Loyal1) get deleted, you'll know why.
basically I think DQB is a "selective scammer" as somebody else put it, he will only send out products occasionally, and offers 70% refund when they do not get to the person.
Wow, such a high refund rate! And so many products not received (check his vendor page - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/57631 , some listings have more success rate than others) why is this? He has good packaging - or so people have said. So why so many products undelivered?
He doesn't send them. It could be the that his packaging isn't that good (contrary to what people say) and that his packages genuinely don't arrive - still another reason not to order from him. This point makes me EXTREMELY suspicious of him, because if his packaging was amazing he would have a high success rate.
Are people really going to moan over 30% loss on a fairly small amount of money - no, it's a higher refund rate than most.
FYI I am using a different alias to my usual because I was going to order speakers from him and didn't want to ruin my buying opportunity should I choose to buy off DQB.
I personally think his product not received rate is suspiciously higher than other pill vendors, and that the fact his refund rate is so high does not match to his random and occasionally abrasive attitude (not to mention the two aliases which are obviously him, why the fuck can't he respond for himself?) - the ups and downs of a coke addiction, probably.
thoughts and experiences welcome.
Dude,
I'm for all the public airing of grievances regarding both sellers AND buyers, but at least nut the fuck up and have the balls to not do half-assed, puerile, Jersey Shore-level, pussy shit like hiding behind a fake moniker (when you're already anonymous to begin with) and then hedging your unilateral castigation with "Buh-imm-uh-maybee-order-summa-dat-sheeit-from-dat-dere-crookedy-azz-mofo-so-imma-gunna-not-really-talk-dis-here-sheeeit-to-dat-mofos-face-by-not-lettin-that-mofo-gno-who-dis-here-muddafugga-beez-callin-him-beans-out-gno-whu-im-sayin?" The stench of hypocrisy: outrage at DQB's alleged preparation of many faces to meet the faces while being complicit in identical behavior.
On the other hand, if DQB is masquerading around the forums with many masks, then he/she/it, too, needs to knock that shit off.
Why the fuck is it so hard to maintain some sort of decorum in a drug bazaar? Does the OP really need to behave like a petulant child throwing emo-music hissy fits because his illegal narcotics transaction wasn't rendered perfect by his overinvolved helicopter parents? Grow the fuck up.
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=1006.msg122963#msg122963
there is a post I made on the MDMA quality thread, if those posts (by mdmaChamp and Loyal1) get deleted, you'll know why.
basically I think DQB is a "selective scammer" as somebody else put it, he will only send out products occasionally, and offers 70% refund when they do not get to the person.
Wow, such a high refund rate! And so many products not received (check his vendor page - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/57631 , some listings have more success rate than others) why is this? He has good packaging - or so people have said. So why so many products undelivered?
He doesn't send them. It could be the that his packaging isn't that good (contrary to what people say) and that his packages genuinely don't arrive - still another reason not to order from him. This point makes me EXTREMELY suspicious of him, because if his packaging was amazing he would have a high success rate.
Are people really going to moan over 30% loss on a fairly small amount of money - no, it's a higher refund rate than most.
FYI I am using a different alias to my usual because I was going to order speakers from him and didn't want to ruin my buying opportunity should I choose to buy off DQB.
I personally think his product not received rate is suspiciously higher than other pill vendors, and that the fact his refund rate is so high does not match to his random and occasionally abrasive attitude (not to mention the two aliases which are obviously him, why the fuck can't he respond for himself?) - the ups and downs of a coke addiction, probably.
thoughts and experiences welcome.
Dude,
I'm for all the public airing of grievances regarding both sellers AND buyers, but at least nut the fuck up and have the balls to not do half-assed, puerile, Jersey Shore-level, pussy shit like hiding behind a fake moniker (when you're already anonymous to begin with) and then hedging your unilateral castigation with "Buh-imm-uh-maybee-order-summa-dat-sheeit-from-dat-dere-crookedy-azz-mofo-so-imma-gunna-not-really-talk-dis-here-sheeeit-to-dat-mofos-face-by-not-lettin-that-mofo-gno-who-dis-here-muddafugga-beez-callin-him-beans-out-gno-whu-im-sayin?" The stench of hypocrisy: outrage at DQB's alleged preparation of many faces to meet the faces while being complicit in identical behavior.
On the other hand, if DQB is masquerading around the forums with many masks, then he/she/it, too, needs to knock that shit off.
Why the fuck is it so hard to maintain some sort of decorum in a drug bazaar? Does the OP really need to behave like a petulant child throwing emo-music hissy fits because his illegal narcotics transaction wasn't rendered perfect by his overinvolved helicopter parents? Grow the fuck up.
Wow the hyperbolic metaphors are really cranked to 11 on this one, eh? Not to say that it doesn't have me in a fit of laughter right now, though...
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DQB is a loser scammer. So obvious those account belong to him. lol What a retard. Go fuck youself DQB.
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Also believe DQB is a selective scammer. Have had small orders not arrive that usually come no troubles.
Dreamcore
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Hi all. I ordered 4 speakers from DQB last week. I had a query a few days after placing the order, and i've been waiting for a reply now for 2 days. I'm worried. Will update if the beans make it to my country, which is known for having strict customs.
Unfortunately, being from NL to my country, and being pills... if I don't get them, I still wont know why. Maybe I should just give DQB the benefit of the doubt. I soooo want my speakers. I will definitely update.
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:-\Sent another message just then to DQB, hoping for a reply to ease my growing fears....
If it is in fact, DQB faking as those accounts, and if he is dodgy, then it doesn't seem the smartest move to spend your time writing aggressive posts under fake names to defend yourself, when you could be spending time replying to a simple query within 2 to 3 days (even if it's not a truthful reply), this would have a much greater effect in limiting the damage being done to his reputation on this forum. Wouldn't that be the best way to defend yourself DQB?
I repeat however, I have not given up hope in you DQB. But, as a customer, I can't help but be worried when you haven't replied to my simple query in almost three days now, and all of this talk escalating. Will update, and if I receive my product, I will give you a great score. If I don't get at least a reply to my message you'll get a 1.
Don't take this the wrong way if you're totally legit.... but surely you can understand why i'd be anxious?
Will update. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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I've had three orders with him, two arrived without problem, and the third is due in the next couple of days.
Obviously I don't want to go into specifics here, but I think that while his packaging has looked pretty good on the two I have received, there is a potential problem with it under certain circumstances.
I'm relatively inexperienced on SR, so I don't have much to compare his packaging to (only two other vendors used so far, neither of whom used the same method as him). Over the next few days, I'll have a chance to compare with a wider sample of packaging, and hopefully get a closer look again at DQB's if it gets here okay. If I continue to see the potential for problems as opposed to some of his competitors who I can see are considered more reliable, I'll let him know.
Basically, I just don't want everybody to jump to the conclusion that he's scamming people when it's perfectly possible that it's just a small issue with packaging that could occasionally trip him up. He's been quick to respond to messages, friendly and generally decent to deal with to me.
Edit: DQB's third package and one from another vendor got here shortly after writing this. My concerns about the packaging are confirmed, and I'm sending him a message to see what he thinks.
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I've had three orders with him, two arrived without problem, and the third is due in the next couple of days.
Obviously I don't want to go into specifics here, but I think that while his packaging has looked pretty good on the two I have received, there is a potential problem with it under certain circumstances.
I'm relatively inexperienced on SR, so I don't have much to compare his packaging to (only two other vendors used so far, neither of whom used the same method as him). Over the next few days, I'll have a chance to compare with a wider sample of packaging, and hopefully get a closer look again at DQB's if it gets here okay. If I continue to see the potential for problems as opposed to some of his competitors who I can see are considered more reliable, I'll let him know.
Basically, I just don't want everybody to jump to the conclusion that he's scamming people when it's perfectly possible that it's just a small issue with packaging that could occasionally trip him up. He's been quick to respond to messages, friendly and generally decent to deal with to me.
I didn't mean to jump to conclusions, though I probably have - I said "I think" on most of my points, just speculating.
and "Loyal1" for fuck sake you haven't changed your format again! do you really think we are that dumb? all of your forum accounts, mdmaChamp, Loyal1 and DutchQualityBeans have the same typography and anger in a lot of your posts.
What you have to take a risk with is this, at least when buying speakers :
Do you buy, say, 6 speakers for ฿13.05 off DQB and risk possibly being selectively scammed, if you are you lose ~4 bitcoins because of his 70% rate back.
Or, do you go with chemical brothers, and order 6x 2.38 for ฿14.28, paying one bitcoin more for the same product (only to get a 50% return if it does not come) but a higher chance of it actually coming?
Of course, the decision whether to get with DQB or Chemical brothers gets harder as you want to buy more, as DQB does offer bulk quantitys with less bitcoin per pill.
Oh and to the little spastic gremlin who was saying about hiding behind a fake alias or something (didn't read his terrible metaphor), I WAS STILL CONSIDERING buying off DQB - if I were to call him out on this then I would surely get my package "lost in the mail", wouldn't I? ;).
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I wasn't accusing you of jumping to conclusions, per se (speaking as prim and properly as I can here so people can be confident I'm not a sock puppet for DQB!), merely concerned that with a lot of talk of missing packages, people might get ahead of themselves.
Anyway, I'll see what he has to say. Even though I'm 3/3, I'm a little surprised that this last one made it through, honestly.
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I wasn't accusing you of jumping to conclusions, per se (speaking as prim and properly as I can here so people can be confident I'm not a sock puppet for DQB!), merely concerned that with a lot of talk of missing packages, people might get ahead of themselves.
Anyway, I'll see what he has to say. Even though I'm 3/3, I'm a little surprised that this last one made it through, honestly.
You from NL? He has different packaging methods for different countries, which I don't know how to feel about. All customers should get the same amount of protection in my opinion.
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That is heartening news Doublestuff. Fingers crossed. Your comment on the packaging doesn't really ease my worries on having the package detected by customs. Just wish he'd reply to my message, even just a quick reply will do.
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You from NL? He has different packaging methods for different countries, which I don't know how to feel about. All customers should get the same amount of protection in my opinion.
I'm in the UK.
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Dam i just placed my first order ever and it was with DQB for 6 speakers, my order said it shipped 8 days ago. Im pissed i did that, because if i don't receive my package i probably wont place another order on SR because im alil paranoid and wont know if either i got scammed or package got seized. i'll keep you guys updated on whether or not i receive my package. o btw i also messaged DQB and asked if he's gonna scam me he said that its not true and told me to look at his reviews for 2 speakers. idk im very skeptical i wish i did more research before i ordered guess i was alil anxious. Im from US so if anyone has any more info about this vendor please lmk
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I've no experience with DQB, but I have over the years received tons of (legit!) mail from NL>UK as I have close family there.
The truth is it is always a risk, I think customs have eased up in recent years but every so often (maybe 1 in 20 as rough estimate) I would get a package with a 'HMRC has inspected your mail' letter. Again, this is with plain letters sent from a small town miles from the drug hubs of Amsterdam and Rotterdam.
IMHO I think packaging (especially internal) accounts for less than people think.
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IMHO I think packaging (especially internal) accounts for less than people think.
The issue I see, and again without going into specifics, is that in looking to boost the security of internal packaging, DQB may have compromised the external aspect.
To put it bluntly and stop pussyfooting around the issue: I could see the outline of the bag through the envelope.
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If customs sent out a love-letter to seized packages 100% of the time then I wouldn't be a skeptic at all, but they don't.
I am just warning people, there's a risk you are taking when going with DQB (in my opinion)
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Everyone reading this,
Be very careful with dealing with this guy. In my experience, my order was placed OVER 1 month ago. He then stated that I would receive the package within 15 business days. Because this seemed like a long time, I decided to go with another Dutch vendor who carried a similar product. This new seller told me that I should not have to worry because he was a master at packaging and shipping products. I took him at his word. I got my secondary order from CB like exactly a week later and it was shipped from the same goddamn country as DQB. So I had a good experience with CB and they went out of their way to hook me up. Meanwhile, I am waiting patiently for my order from DQB. Days go by and by and by and by. Finally he proposes he sends me a reshipment order because it had been so long. I decided I really wanted them and did not really want a refund. I was hoping he was not bluffing. So, now it has been 15-16 days since DQB said he sent his re-shipment out. Again, I am the one out with out product and my money still in escrow. I know for a fact that he either A) never shipped them in the first place and second place and is just trying to scam me out of money B) he legitimately sent them and it got intercepted by LE and/or his packaging is shitty or C) he is creating multiple accounts and is just shifting money around between his seller accounts and buyer accounts to make it look like he actually sends out packages but really just shifts money from account to account to beef up his seller ratings. Do not get me wrong. I will be honest. He did maintain semi-professional messaging from time to time. I am just fucking pissed that I got the run around by this guy for so long.
I find it quite suspicious that one order could make it from NL without any problem whatsoever and got there within a week--while DQB's "packages" were just mysteriously seized or never sent. I mean I am not an idiot and can read between the lines if you will. He has provided no DCN number to prove that any of these packages were sent and when they would arrive. He has other people on the forums complaining about his not so effective selling and shipping techniques. He has offered me a 50 percent refund which is bullshit. Yes, I understand I enter into a transaction that has some risk. However, I have maintained my end of the bargain by bringing to the escrow people more money that is needed to procure the supposed product. In doing so I have kept and maintained my end of the bargain. I am not the seller. If he was so good as he claims to be then he would have my money by now lol. BE VERRRRRRRY CAREFUL of this guy. The information I have provided is 100 percent accurate and I have no reason to lie about anything I have described. I have no vested interest in anything other than trying to help out other people who could potentially fall victim to his scamming ways. I remained professional with this guy for the first 30 days. After that I have given up all hope that anything will come by. Just be very careful when dealing with this guy. Be aware that if you read the forums--you will see that this is not the first or last time this experience is going to happen with DQB.