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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Kingoftheroundtable on March 13, 2013, 05:08 pm

Title: if Sr tells us to never finalize early why do vendors tempt ppl to fe?
Post by: Kingoftheroundtable on March 13, 2013, 05:08 pm
I just don't understand yeah you want your money fast but why put yourself in the potential position to be called a scammer why not always just have them finalized when received? I think this is a big contribution to all these ppl claiming to be scammed. it's like your asking to have your money taken from you and to have to trust some one you don't know at all.... just seems stupid.
Title: Re: if Sr tells us to never finalize early why do vendors tempt ppl to fe?
Post by: jmoney113 on March 13, 2013, 05:26 pm
Some vendors have a pretty substantial customer base and the only way I would assume to keep the product flowing freely is to release funds as early as possible in order to re-up. But even with the most trusted of vendors, it's always preferable to stay in escrow. It wouldn't be the first time that a very trusted vendor decides to take everyone's money and run when they have a pretty significant amount of bulk orders + early finalizers.
Title: Re: if Sr tells us to never finalize early why do vendors tempt ppl to fe?
Post by: Poisonouss on March 13, 2013, 06:50 pm
I'm not saying he's a scammer, even though I think he is. But look at Lucydrop. Pretty much requires an FE for anything except 10 tabs and even then the requirements are pretty high. In my opinion, buyers are at a greater risk than sellers. Vendors shouldn't be aloud to make people FE. Also, if you FE and get scammed that is entirely on you.
Title: Re: if Sr tells us to never finalize early why do vendors tempt ppl to fe?
Post by: Johnny_Early on March 13, 2013, 07:02 pm
Reasons I used to ask for FE:

-buyer has little or no purchase history, possible scam account
-buyer is international, I do not guarantee international shipping (even with 99% success rate), and I just do not want to wait 3 weeks to get paid.
-buyer placed a bulk order and funds from this order are needed to pay for product. This is agreed upon upfront and usually a discount is given.
-buyer has used an address we have reason to believe is a vacant house, or some other sort of "burn address" that we do not consider valid.

Other than this, all of our customers always have full escrow and I can't think of any other valid reasons to ask for FE.

Just because a vendor doesn't want to wait for a 3-4 days to get paid it not valid reason to require FE. If your vendor asks you to FE, ask him/her why.

Title: Re: if Sr tells us to never finalize early why do vendors tempt ppl to fe?
Post by: Kingoftheroundtable on March 13, 2013, 07:04 pm
but its almost impossible to get scammed if you don't fe and I saw some stuff a little while back on the forums abt them takin forever to get ppls orderd to them and some other bull shit... dk just seems like the fe shouldn't be an option at all for vendor and customers sake
Title: Re: if Sr tells us to never finalize early why do vendors tempt ppl to fe?
Post by: Kingoftheroundtable on March 13, 2013, 07:08 pm
that's a good way to look at it and is understandable yet I feel as if the vendor needs you to send the money first for the product should be the only reason I understand not wanting to wait a few weeks for money but if customer is satisfied and you have the dcn and tracked it to him then there would be no dispute. and as for scam accounts they too would have to have conclusive evidence to be able to try and take money and products.
Title: Re: if Sr tells us to never finalize early why do vendors tempt ppl to fe?
Post by: Kingoftheroundtable on March 13, 2013, 07:13 pm
and if ur sending money so they can get product first you better be able to trust that vendor with your money. any vendor can just say I've made my money back ill place an item on cliam my fe's and run off with plenty of roadies loot. I wouldn't do that unless I had ordered at least 20 times from the guy just saying ha as for top vendors asking for fe they can count me out idc how old you are here some new vendor can come along an offer a deal as good as yours and not require fe then so can you! I much respect to up and coming loyal and trustworthy vendors
Title: Re: if Sr tells us to never finalize early why do vendors tempt ppl to fe?
Post by: Kingoftheroundtable on March 13, 2013, 07:16 pm
another question... Why do new and old buyers go out side the specific site guidelines and fe at all? they specifically say don't... doing it for any reason warrants getting ur cash getting took. Next time listen to the pirate!