Silk Road forums
Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: kaarpar on February 15, 2013, 07:36 pm
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from what I understand, and I could be misunderstanding, but the 50post benchmark was done in a effort to:
(1) force n00bs to become a part of the community in a concrete way before adding their two cents?
(2) prevent against scammers who infiltrate and make us all more vulnerable?
(3) + whatever else I have not yet considered...
still, isn't there something to be said for the problems (albeit small) that this might invite. for one, many n00bs on the boards are not n00bs to SR. so the frustration on their part is more than understood. they have earned the right to contribute, so hopefully something can be done on a case-by-case basis - though that might be asking a lot of forum resources.
but also, and this hasn't happened yet, but my other concern would be that as n00bs can only post in the n00b section and vets can post wherever they want, we might not always be getting the best info re: a security matter or a question about a vendor. think about it, our lack of experience makes us vulnerable and not being able to post alongside the vets (to occasionally be shot down or gut-checked) makes us even better targets. of course, the community is what makes SR strong so measures that are in the interest of our safety as whole is totally the right thing to do.
I will say that the vets I have been in contact with (~10 purchases in) are more than generous with their time, patience, advice both off and on the forums. (farmer1 stands out here. he practiced PGP with me many moons ago - I'm still grateful for that and his skush!)
anyway, what do ya'll think?
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its a hard one, I can understand why but as a "vet" with over 20 transactions it is frustrating. I think it is a good thing though
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I think another reason is to stop 'dodgy' vendors creating multiple accounts and giving themselves positive feedback. But 50 posts is just too much, everybody seems to spam to get to 50 anyway.
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@mrbugle those are my instincts as well. but still rough times! I went to review for lucymcgee - not that she needs it, but why not add a voice to the choir - and was real disappointed. here's to hoping your road to 50 is painless or a moderator sets you straight.
@lemonz0r totally, I noticed that too. these forums are spam city now - it's like freaking hawai'i. (ha. ha. lamesauce, I know) i'm hoping not to resort to that and earn my way into the conversation. but no guarantees as my mind is willing by my attention span is weak.
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As far as I understood it, the 50 post rule was to help keep the forums more 'real'. Both to prevent vendors from screwing over other vendors/giving themselves great feedback and to prevent bots/people from spamming the forums with shitty SR products and bitcoin exchangers.
It'd be awesome if they instituted a way to tie your SR account to the forums so your buying history could stand-in instead of post counting.
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as a noob, i think it's a good idea. every good idea has some issues, but overall, i think it's beneficial.
that's this noob's 3 cents (cuz history owes me one)
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Im not a noob on SR but rarely post on the forums but I think its fucking genius to require 50 posts before being able to post anywhere else. LE isnt going to take the time to make 50 posts before being able to infiltrate a board. I know they can still read everything, but LE is going to want to gain trust by posting and creating a dialog with potential criminals.
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I think you make some valid points in regard to advise. It really is a double edged sword, but my overall opinion of it is that it's a good idea. I'm just grateful that some vets/moderators come in here and help out with advise and answering questions. It's much appreciated.
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I'm a senior member with almost 400 posts and 12 transactions under my belt.
But I *definitely* still consider myself a noob.
Only been here four weeks. My post count & buyer stats just mean that I talk a lot and like to get high. lol
Post-count isn't directly proportionate to accrued SR knowledge.
I DO think that the vendor 50-post lock out is kinda counter productive though. Don't really see the logic behind that, tbh.
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Well i defo do not consider myself a noob, this is my 3rd account but i keep forgetting my log in details, wont be doing it again tho this 50 post thing is killing me, i got a freebie & i want to leave a review as promised but have to do 40 more bull shit posts b4 i can do it, fuck.
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as a noob, i think it's a good idea. every good idea has some issues, but overall, i think it's beneficial.
that's this noob's 3 cents (cuz history owes me one)
The 50 post rule was primarily introduced to reduce the amount of spam on the main forum. As scout and samesame have said on many occasions, it had nothing to do with newbies other than the fact that they are unfortunately implicated in this process because of their low post count. It has helped the main forum tremendously.
Some newbies I have found are just constantly whinging about the 50 post count, but I fail to see why. Judging by the subject material being used in the threads I've seen posted by newbies, there is no reason you would have a need to post in the main forum. You need to take this opportunity and embrace SR and all that it stands for. Learn all you can, read all you can and ask constructive questions if you need help, not start another thread such as - "PLACE SPAM HERE GET TO 50". I think a number of you don't take your safety or more importantly, the protection of your Anonymity, seriously enough and don't realize how easy it is to make mistakes which may potentially reveal your true identity to those monitoring SR traffic and activities.
Good on you acejenny1 for taking the approach to the newbie forum as it should be. :) It's only 50 posts! The last thing a new member would want to do is start a stupid thread, like those found in the newbie section, on the main forum. You'll be shot down in flames which won't be a good way to start. :-\
To mrbugle -
but as a "vet" with over 20 transactions it is frustrating. I think it is a good thing though
I don't think you would be classed as a "vet" having over 20 transactions. Maybe 50+ successful orders as a bare minimum but more like over 100+ orders is more like it in my book.
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as a noob, i think it's a good idea. every good idea has some issues, but overall, i think it's beneficial.
that's this noob's 3 cents (cuz history owes me one)
The 50 post rule was primarily introduced to reduce the amount of spam on the main forum. As scout and samesame have said on many occasions, it had nothing to do with newbies other than the fact that they are unfortunately implicated in this process because of their low post count. It has helped the main forum tremendously.
Some newbies I have found are just constantly whinging about the 50 post count, but I fail to see why. Judging by the subject material being used in the threads I've seen posted by newbies, there is no reason you would have a need to post in the main forum. You need to take this opportunity and embrace SR and all that it stands for. Learn all you can, read all you can and ask constructive questions if you need help, not start another thread such as - "PLACE SPAM HERE GET TO 50". I think a number of you don't take your safety or more importantly, the protection of your Anonymity, seriously enough and don't realize how easy it is to make mistakes which may potentially reveal your true identity to those monitoring SR traffic and activities.
Good on you acejenny1 for taking the approach to the newbie forum as it should be. :) It's only 50 posts! The last thing a new member would want to do is start a stupid thread, like those found in the newbie section, on the main forum. You'll be shot down in flames which won't be a good way to start. :-\
To mrbugle -
but as a "vet" with over 20 transactions it is frustrating. I think it is a good thing though
I don't think you would be classed as a "vet" having over 20 transactions. Maybe 50+ successful orders as a bare minimum but more like over 100+ orders is more like it in my book.
Well said Wadozo, it was primarily introduced to stop the 'silkroadtor.con' 'mr gix' 'virwex' 'bitcointalks' spambots from constantly plaguing our forum, saying that I noticed the other day a spambot posted over 50 times yesterday and started to plague the other discussion boards, which was soon ceased. Taking this measure, has helped the main forum immensely, it's not to separate anyone from anyone, it's intentions is to keep the forum running as smoothly as possible. On the subject of questions I have started up a thread where you can ask me anything sensible and expect a sensible answer in return, you may learn something useful and/or insightful, it will help to build your post count productively too 'Ask me anything - The sensible discussion thread!' http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=119840.0 if you need a review quoted to the vendors original review thread on the 'Rumor mill' discussion board you can do so here 'The official Newbies discussion 'Post Your Review Here' thread!' dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=120309 I'm doing everything I can to bridge the gap between the 'Newbie board' and the rest of the forum. Happy travels guys and girls :)
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At first I thought the 50 was crazy high for a n00b but now after a while I've come to realize that the 50 is about quality and while I could post 50 spam posts to get my full "wings" I'm more likely to get + karma and 50 posts which to me is more important if I properly engage in decent conversation. To that end I'm trying to do this the right way to earn a good rep first and foremost. Just because you have 50 posts doesn't mean you know jack shit either. Just my 2 btc.
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I'm doing everything I can to bridge the gap between the 'Newbie board' and the rest of the forum. Happy travels guys and girls :)
... and we can't thank you enough for that! so far I've posted a couple of times today and members with HERO status on up have replied, which was really my only concern: that n00bs would left out here spamming ourselves toward terrible reps in a forum wasteland without input from the rest of the community.
*fears assuaged*
'ppreciate everyone who chimed in here, glad to get some opinions from reasonable n00bs and vets alike.
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I'm doing everything I can to bridge the gap between the 'Newbie board' and the rest of the forum. Happy travels guys and girls :)
... and we can't thank you enough for that! so far I've posted a couple of times today and members with HERO status on up have replied, which was really my only concern: that n00bs would left out here spamming ourselves toward terrible reps in a forum wasteland without input from the rest of the community.
*fears assuaged*
'ppreciate everyone who chimed in here, glad to get some opinions from reasonable n00bs and vets alike.
Thank-you for your kind words kaarpar, I spend a lot of my forum time on the 'Newbie discussion' these days. Honestly, I don't have anything against the newbies who're spamming, if they wish to spam their way to 50 then so be. However, I do really appreciate the newbies who wish to gain some 'knowledge' and 'insight' before they cross the 'fence of freedom'. Newbies use your stay in the 'Newbies discussion' productively and we're here to help you every post of the way :)