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Support => Technical support => Topic started by: logboy on July 20, 2011, 05:42 am

Title: Kleopatra
Post by: logboy on July 20, 2011, 05:42 am
Hi guys,

I need some help with Kleopatra and hope there is someone here who can help me.
I have managed to get my public key generated -

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Does this look right?
Now, what do I do with this? If I want to send a message to someone on silk road, how do I do that with what I have?
I'm not entirely brilliant when it comes to computers, so some baby steps would be helpful.
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: phubaiblues on July 20, 2011, 06:53 am
You're getting there.  This is *your* public key.  This is the one you send to people so they can send you encrypted messages, and with the private  key you created at the same time, you can decrypt them...

Now, if you want to send *them* encrypted messages, you need their public key.  The sellers who have one, you'll find it when you click to send them a message. 

This key should already be in Kleopatra...you put it in there when you created it...when you get a public key from them, you will import it to Kleopatra.  (I use PGA, so I"m working from memory).

If I remember right, you can just copy their public key, and then rtclick on Kleopatra and import their key.  The other way is to make a file on your Desktop, but you want to save it as 'all file's and with pgp or asc as the extension...I'm getting off track here...sorry...but anyway:

Get a public key from somebody else, then you can send encrypted messages back and forth.  It's kind of weird, getting your head around it, but once you understand it, it's simple enough.  They use *your* public key to send you encrypted messages, and you use *their* public key to send them encrypted messages.

When you created your public key, you also created your own *private* key, and that's so when they *send* you an encrypted message, you can decrypt it.  Here you go: I took your *public* key, and encrypted a message for you.  You should be able
to open this message with Kleopatra and read it...in this message, I also included *my* public key, so you can send me a message back. 

First you'll need to decrypt the message.  Either by copying it, and rtclicking the Kleopatra icon...there are other ways, you can figure that out.

Once you decrypt it, you can import my public key, and then write up a short message to me, and encrypt it with my public key...post it and I'll decrypt it...that's how it works ...have fun :)



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Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: logboy on July 20, 2011, 12:06 pm
OK, I could read your message by copying it and opening in notepad and then decrypting. I have also imported your key into Kleopatra and it's showing up in there. Just can't figure out how to send one now. So, I right click Kleopatra - go to clipboard and click encrypt. It asks to add recipients, and then I click on your key and it brings it up in that window. Where do I type my message?
Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: phubaiblues on July 20, 2011, 05:56 pm
This is where you might need to either study up on Kleopatra, or get somebody more familiar, as, like I said, I use PGA...but when I did use Kleopatra, I did it a certain way, which works on both of them:

You first open up an empty file--on your Desktop, u know, rtclik, document--what's important, is that you save this file as an 'all files' file with .asc as it's extention.  Say:  pb.asc ...  In that file, you can say "Hi Phubai" or whatever you want in plain text, make sure it is saved, again, as 'all files' and with the .asc extesion: pb.asc

Then you open up Kleopatra and play around until you find a way to encrypt, then browse Desktop, until you find pb.asc and open that, and it should then create a 2nd file for you, which will be all encrypted, and you can send me that one, and I will be able to decrypt it since I have the private key.

I know this all sounds really convoluted.  I went through the same thing. and spent a day or so reallly frustrated until I got it, then it seemed easy.  It's just hard to explain to someone else (as you can see).  Once you understand the concept, you won't have problems anymore.  The above way is the *long* way: there are short cuts, just first you want to make a file all written up, with the asc extension (or pgp) and encrypt it with the my public key, and send it to me...I have my private key, so I can read it....

It sounds like you are about 1/2 way there.  I plowed thru kleopatra myself, then when I switched to a linux OS, I started using GPA, but they both work on the same theory: you have my public key, you make a certain type of file, and you can encrypt i using this public key, and send it to me.  They have some tutorials that are pretty basic, but I don't have them at hand...good luck: u will get this...
Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: logboy on July 20, 2011, 11:08 pm
OK, I think I have it sorted now.
Here is my message back to you.

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Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: logboy on July 20, 2011, 11:10 pm
Mmmm, is it meant to look like that?
Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: joeblow2 on July 20, 2011, 11:34 pm
OK, I think I have it sorted now.
Here is my message back to you.

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I'm not expert, but the "google-eyed smiley" might be a little hard for PGP to interpret.

I'm on Mac so the decrypt procedure is different, but I always decrpyt on a "new message" template in my mail program.  Someone who uses Win needs to instruct you on that portion again, I believe. :P
Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: phubaiblues on July 20, 2011, 11:50 pm
No: it should look like the message I sent you.  I'm not sure what you are doing wrong.  I'd probably try again, to make and save a document on your Desktop, then save it in 'all files' but make sure it's extension is .asc   then encrypt that using the public key I sent you, and save and post that...you're almost there....

See, if I encrypt the above, with your public key, it looks something like like the following which you can decrypt with your private key (they had a couple of tutorials earlier on here, I've found them doing a search, but it seems you are doing something wrong when you encrypt)



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Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: logboy on July 21, 2011, 02:13 am
I think I may be getting somwhere now. Please work.

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Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: logboy on July 21, 2011, 02:16 am
I just did another one, this time adding my own key as well.
Should I be adding both when I encrypt? Mine and the person I am sending it to?

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Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: RedRocket on July 21, 2011, 03:22 am
OK, I think I have it sorted now.
Here is my message back to you.

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Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: logboy on July 21, 2011, 03:35 am
yeah, yeah, laugh it up redrocket. It was my first time  :-[
Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: phubaiblues on July 21, 2011, 03:58 am
No they didn't come through, I'm getting some kind of error when I try to decrypt.  You're getting there, don't get discouraged.  You can always pm me, if it gets to nervewracking, but a lot of people have trouble with this, and we really do need to get a handle on it...you're really close, and it's probably some small glitch.  When I try to decrypt, I get an error message

Error in Operation Result: No valid utf-8 at position 0.

I know that won't mean anything to you--or me--but someone else might be able to give you a hand too.  This was same error on both messages.

So lets see what you did, or need to do (for now, don't send me your key: we already know that works,

You wrote up a little text file.

You saved it with .asc (did you make sure to save it 'all files' not txt ?  (I'm in linux, so I have to work from memory on windows stuff)

you encrypted this with *my* public key.

You copied/pasted that message tome...

If you did all that,  it might be in the windws document you saved before encrypting...make sure no format is in place, u know, wordwrap, you don't want anything like that on...

I'll be up a few hours here, and I'll keep an eye out for your posts, if you want to try again...or, like I said, feel free to pm it if you want, but I"m fine with just posting it...*lots* of people need to be doing this, and it might encourage them to try...don't mind people teasing...they just being silly, no big deal...

EDIT:

Some previous good threads on this, one has comments by SR himself:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=536.0

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=937.0

----

Also: what I did, when I had kleopatra--and gpg4win--I used this documentation...it's a bit slow, but if you take it from the beginning it really does explain gpg and how to use it:  use your regular browser in windows, and go here: (I started you with the Kleopatra doc, but you can go backwords or forwords...it's what I learned with):

http://www.gpg4win.org/doc/en/gpg4win-compendium_12.html

Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: phubaiblues on July 21, 2011, 06:12 am
You know: that second message, that you say you included your 'own key' with it?  I realize now, that *that* one  decrypts!  It's just that messge you have inside it, is encrypted with *your* key, I think...I know I"m not explaing it right...but the second message you sent me, you obviously encrypted it right...it's just the message that is encrypted, is another encrypted message, only this time with *your* key, or something like that...so if you want, try another one, and encrypt it the same way you did that message, see if I get it...

Let me see if I can say this differently: The second message you sent me decrypts into the first message :)   Don't try to 'sign' the message...just send me a couple of words in text, and encrypt them the way you encrypted that second message...you did it with my public key...somehow :) (Which is what you want!)

Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: logboy on July 21, 2011, 06:50 am
OK, so what I have been doing is -
1 - open notepad and type a message
2 - save as "all files" to my desktop
3 - open it in Kleopatra with "sign/encrypt files"
4 - Tick "text output (ascii armor)" - when I didn't tick this is when I got the message looking all weird with the strange lettering
5 - then it asks for whom do you want to encrypt - I add both you and me

This is what I get -

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Should just say "Third time lucky" in the message
Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: phubaiblues on July 21, 2011, 07:35 am
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Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: phubaiblues on July 21, 2011, 07:40 am
OK: now you got the basics down...there are all kinds of shortcuts, where you don't need to make files and stuff: I just don't remember Kleopatra all that well.  You might want to check out that tuorial, because I know you can just rt click on the Kleopatra icon to encrypt and decrypt without making all the files and stuff: all kinds of quicker ways to do that...mostly, you just want to be able to import seller's key to Kleopatra, and I always have a plain text copy of my public key to give people, or you can post yours on that page of them...now that you have the basics you can play around with it and learn to also 'sign' your messages...which works sort of in reverse: you sign them with your private key, and the msg receiver can decrypt them with your public key...don't worry about that now...get bored, go thru that tutorial, it's great, and taught me, once I"d learned to do what you learned just now:

http://www.gpg4win.org/doc/en/gpg4win-compendium.html
Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: logboy on July 21, 2011, 09:59 am
Thank you so much for your help. Was having a really hard time getting my head around it, even after reading the tutorials. Sometimes a personal helping hand is just what is needed. The practice messages were the best way to learn.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: phubaiblues on July 22, 2011, 04:25 am
Thank you so much for your help. Was having a really hard time getting my head around it, even after reading the tutorials. Sometimes a personal helping hand is just what is needed. The practice messages were the best way to learn.
Cheers.

Yep: you stuck with it though, and that's what counts.  I know what you mean though...I learned how to do it first...and then one day I was fiddling with trying to figure out the signatures, and all of a sudden I saw the genius of it all, how the public keys and private keys were harmonious and it was *so* cool.  I actually kind of buzzed through that tutorial again last night myself, as I"m no expert at this, and I was seeing just how great this setup is...but anyway glad it's starting to work, and you'll see how handy it is when buying, and needing to leave addresses!   ...and I got a lot of help here too, so glad I could pass it on! :)
Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: joeblow2 on July 22, 2011, 04:30 am
There was an excellent PGP tutorial with screen shots and everything on the old forum by a guy named "goddamn".  Maybe he is over here under that or a different name.  I don't have the link anymore, but if someone added it to this thread then the next time someone needs Kleopatra PGP help; they could start here.
Title: Re: Kleopatra
Post by: phubaiblues on July 22, 2011, 06:27 am
Yeah, I'd found those, but sometimes it's easier just to walk somebody thru the first few times.  It seems I learned how to do it before I got that 'aha!' moment where I finally understood the way public keys and private keys meshed.  IF we get a FAQ going, then it would be nice to put together in there a real basic gpg for windows tutorial for SR ...on here they mostly need to just know how to post an encrypted file on pm's to sellers, and to decrypt replys, and then they can learn signatures and all on their own...

It can seem a real drag until you get it...I know.