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Title: Stay Away From bitZino People They Are Disgusting Scammers Here's Proof!
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on May 03, 2013, 10:39 am
Folks I would like to warn you all that site bitZino has gone completely rogue and fucked the entire Bitcoin community for too long.

I have played in casino's A LOT, and never seen anything like what has occurred here on this site.

It will permanently fuck your arse if you let it!

I started the roulette wheel, and got something like twelve of the opposite colour and three greens straight off the bat completely fleecing me dry. I contacted them saying their site was bunk and they sent me a bunch of bullshit saying this that and the other with links to certain things I already knew. Then they go on and on about "provably fair" and I can inform you that they are extremely good with words don't let them fool you. I would be happy to forward anyone the photographic evidence of impossible shit that occurs there and I will also recommend anyone with High Orbital Ion Cannon go to work on these criminal scumjiggery menacing thieves for the good of all of us in the Bitcoin world.

Here's one SMALL example, as I have hundreds of these types of photo's, so please anyone wishing to confirm them can, they are insanely putrid!

I'm sending this out not just to prevent any vendors or punters losing money, but to expose these frauds for the scumjiggery menacing whores they are and I hope you all learn an expensive lesson on my part!

Here's an example of how their numbers roll out, I even had four 7's in a row FFS...

33 B
33 B
3 R
1 R
20 B
7 R
18 R
18 R
3 R
3 R
34 R
21 R
31 B
31 B
21 R
31 B

OR

25 R
15 B
17 B
20 B
36 R
15 B
36 R
2 B
17 B
25 R

OR

36 R
7 R
6 B
36 R
11 B
5 R
5 R
7 R
29 B
29 B

OR

8 B
31 B
4 B
31 B
1 R
4 B
11 B
9 R
1 R

and my personal favourite (pay close attention to the sequence)...

9 R
19 R
33 B
25 R
9 R
19 R
25 R
12 R
25 R
13 B

Show me any casino's that consistently pull out numbers like these, and I will personally eat your shit like Two Girls One Cup!


I have the photo's, and many many more like them, to back up what I say, and here's the 200 BTC transaction, followed by another 6 BTC's just to test the system to see if I wasn't just really unlucky, (I know what you're thinking right, shut up, I know I'm a dumb cunt) but consistently the same thing would happen.

If you sit there on their play money, betting one on each colour, it will just alternate between the two because it doesn't know WTF to do, but the moment you start using the doubling method, the system starts taking you for a ride until it crushes you. It waits for you to lay a bet that you can't cover if it goes fifteen straight or whatever. Basically, it waits for you to place a bet, then will systematically fleece you,

I just put another 13 BTC in to see if it were so and to record the test to put up on YouTube to warn others (I gave them the chance to pay me back what they stole, fix their system and stop fleecing people and I wouldn't say anything, they assured me they had so I tested it), off we go... a couple of normal bets here and there (when I say normal I mean by bitZino's standards so we're talking a four or five string of colours before the change) this goes on for a few minutes, then I place a ridiculously low bet compared to what I would at a REAL casino... FIFTEEN BLACKS LATER AND AFTER TAKING MOST OF MY MONEY, lo and behold a red comes out when I had fuck all left.

Here are the transaction details for you all to see to verify I'm not kidding and to LE, don't even bother trying to trace the IP, you'll be wasting your time...

Status: 812 confirmations
Date: 28/04/2013 14:10
To: ***** 1GsqW1v4LCjbmD62YfiZYsVASnDAf18nM1
Debit: -200.00 BTC
Net amount: -200.00 BTC
Transaction ID: 0d2a3fe7fe962f2b0e5cb6327355e74a0fad6c9d4021a8725d3d7bd52e4d5cdf

Status: 18 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 17:41
To: ***** 1882E1vSBuTxXV2eyMwNmU73j3bYEs8BMd
Debit: -13.00 BTC
Net amount: -13.00 BTC
Transaction ID: 5d468d6952d83fcb218833d4b313e75d4d4299e0dd6e1260e0bcb9df670799bf

YOU ALL NEEDED TO KNOW THIS, I HOPE YOU LEARN A LESSON HERE!

PEACE - JWM  ;)

*Edit: I never got my money back, but was assured it was legitimate... it was still the same scam and don't be surprised if this cuntoxen named libertaad comes on here trying to defend it with bullshit as he has done on every gambling site where everyone's calling bullshit, and they go on about how it's impossible for us to alter the predetermined results or we would be found out immediately by people" and yet time and again, they get found out, I just doubt most people go to the effort of recording and documenting their bullshit system the way I have, nor have most people lost over $30K in real world money to them either.
 
Title: Re: Stay Away From bitZino People They Are Disgusting Scammers Here's Proof!
Post by: brusselsprout on May 03, 2013, 10:57 am
Wait, you've gambled $30k on BTC casinos?
Title: Re: Stay Away From bitZino People They Are Disgusting Scammers Here's Proof!
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on May 03, 2013, 11:16 am
Wait, you've gambled $30k on BTC casinos?

Unfortunately, yes, but to be fair, the initial outlay to get t the 200BTC was only 10BTC, when their system was fair and could be played properly, then because I did that in one day using a different account every 30 or 40 BTC so the system wouldn't pick it up, they realised someone was playing them professionally and have now changed their system to a Scammetron 5000 across the board.

I'm actually out of pocket myself probably 50BTC's just doing experiments and documenting how their system is fraudulent. 

They learned how easy someone can beat them and changed their provably fair system to House Super Scam mode.

If they were fair, I would still have the 200BTC, plus have made another 500 just that day using my method.

I have been kicked out of every casino in my country for taking the house every time, as long as you have the money to back up the initial outlay.

Like I said, I gave them the chance to change their system back and refund at least part of my money (they gave me %5 which is in and of itself an admission of guilt), to which I used to document how their system works because I have many 1000's of BTC's I don't know what to do with I really don't care that much, I gave some to WikiLeaks, others to Adam Kokesh and some to Stefan Molyneux to name a few, and now something like 50 to ShitZino, although they wouldn't refund my initial loss that was won fairly (relatively speaking) they were always willing to come up with some bullshit yarn about this or that but the results speak for themselves.

On every website (I have since learned) major players are calling  bullshit and this character comes on their saying the types of things you would expect to hear from a real casino operator, then you see the following comments about people just saying fucking bullshit, blah blah blah.

At the end of the day, it shouldn't matter if they are using BTC's or FIAT, they should all remain the same but these guys need to be brought to everyone's attention since I'm sure there are vendors on here who might consider using them or even punters themselves, and all I'll say is stick to 888, they are legit and these assholes are thieves nothing more.

I would have sooner given that money to a cancer patient or a family with a child with cerebal palsy but you win some you lose some, it's the principle for me!

- JWM
Title: Re: Stay Away From bitZino People They Are Disgusting Scammers Here's Proof!
Post by: brusselsprout on May 03, 2013, 12:30 pm
Interesting read, thanks for elaborating. +1

I tend to stay away from gambling, mainly because I'm fucking horrible at it usually. I like a little low stakes poker, staying in my comfort zone.

I can understand a casino banning a player simply because the casino can't afford the losses, but it should be open and honest, not a shady system switch.

(oh and "I have many 1000's of BTC's I don't know what to do with" my SR username is the same, I know exactly what I'd do with some! ;P )
Title: Re: Stay Away From bitZino People They Are Disgusting Scammers Here's Proof!
Post by: Tellemetree on May 03, 2013, 12:55 pm

"I have many 1000's of BTC's I don't know what to do with"

Expect many PM's incoming over the next day or two. lol. First one will probably be from me, I jk.

IDk maybe its just me but I'd trust FE with a new vendor before I'd take a punt on a BTCasino, guess I always just assumed they were scams.
Title: Re: Stay Away From bitZino People They Are Disgusting Scammers Here's Proof!
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on May 03, 2013, 01:08 pm
Interesting read, thanks for elaborating. +1

I tend to stay away from gambling, mainly because I'm fucking horrible at it usually. I like a little low stakes poker, staying in my comfort zone.

I can understand a casino banning a player simply because the casino can't afford the losses, but it should be open and honest, not a shady system switch.

(oh and "I have many 1000's of BTC's I don't know what to do with" my SR username is the same, I know exactly what I'd do with some! ;P )
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I'll tell you how to beat the house, but you need to be prepared that your bets could potentially go 15 deep of the same colour (to get ten in a row of the same colour is a 1 in 4500 chance BTW let alone 15 as what just happened to me) straight away on ShitZino's "provably fair" system, then as soon as I post this I get a minus 1 from someone and a short DDOS on the forums... conspiracy much?

Anyway, each roll should potentially be 50/50 chance, not including the green slot that is one in the rest of the world except America that uses two to increase the houses odds of overall 5.45% on a single green table as well Americans have different layouts. The world record of the same colour rolling out again and again was 32 times on RED in I believe it was Chicago in the 1920's... A LOOONG time ago.

So what you do is wait for the table to spin a few times the same colour (a normal real table not that cunthole of a site) so you know it will increase your chances despite the 50/50 odds that your colour is coming up soon, then you outlay a bet let's say $5, and assuming it doesn't come in, to cover the initial bet and to get the profit off the initial bet, you then would bet $15, if that doesn't come in you bet $30 and so on until eventually your colour has to land and you get your money back PLUS the initial bet winnings.

Like I said, you have to be able to cover the multiplication as many times as you can though which is why I recommend to increase your odds, you spin the wheel a few times beforehand and when you see a streak of four or more, then you lay out your bets, the same applies for odds/evens and 1-18 and 19-36, it's the same principle and how I turned 10BTC initially into 200 within a few hours when ShitZino were running their claimed provably fair system. However I suspect, there were many such as myself who took them and they are now scamming people to recover their losses.

Either way, within a matter of minutes, I got a 15 deep string of blacks, followed by one red (after my account was emptied of course) then it went back to another string of 6 blacks until I ran out of money. The chances of this happening are not impossible, but INCREDIBLY unlikely in a real world situation, let alone the numbers coming up in succession one after the other as you can see here.

It's a HUGE WARNING for the peeps here to STAY AWAY or prepare to be robbed like I was.

I gave it some time and threw some more in a few days ago, and flipped 20 up to 50 BTC doing the same thing, then a few hours later made a new account and deposited 50 into it, sure enough, the same thing happened (a 17 string of reds that time and I started betting on the 4th or 5th lol).

So it's obvious, they operate the fair system sometimes, and when they need to make money back they go over to Scammatron 5000 and fleece people enough to recover whatever they need and switch back, or just leave it running who knows but judging by today and yesterday it's flat out.

Any gambling forum says that it's a scam, but when I flipped 10 up to 200 clearly it was running a fair system then changed (the screen even glitched out and said I was "moved to another table").

If you're a gambler who does it professionally, stay away from there. I'm actually quite lucky and they are quite stupid, I would have put in 5000BTC and they could have fleeced me for way more in the end and with everyone in the SR community and Bitcoin blogs knowing their game's rigged they will lose far more than my lousy chump change in revenue and I gave them the chance to come good.

I might even build a REAL Bitcoin casino online for peeps to play now since I have enough of them and show people the "competitors" statistics and what their system does.

Go on it and try for yourself with the play money thing, lay 1 on black and 1 on red, then spin the wheel paying attention to the numbers coming up as well, it keeps repeating them and the colours will come out relatively evenly, THEN do the method I told you and see the difference, it will take you for a ten or fifteen string walk around the world until you have no play money left and need to restart, don't eve get me started on Craps or Blackjack, they are just comical (as if successive numbers and colours on a 1/36 game isn't enough).

If you do what I say in a real casino or one that's legit like 888, you will clean up, jut don't get greedy or you'll find yourself banned lol.

Hope this helps you make a lot more than me slinging you a few BTC, go get em Tiger ;)
Title: Re: Stay Away From bitZino People They Are Disgusting Scammers Here's Proof!
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on May 03, 2013, 01:14 pm

"I have many 1000's of BTC's I don't know what to do with"

Expect many PM's incoming over the next day or two. lol. First one will probably be from me, I jk.

IDk maybe its just me but I'd trust FE with a new vendor before I'd take a punt on a BTCasino, guess I always just assumed they were scams.


Sorry peeps, don't take offense to this, but if I were in the habit of buying everyone drugs I would be dirt poor, I just don't want to cash out because I will be looked at by the FEDS, tax department, and whoever the fuck else, it doesn't mean I couldn't sell them, it was more or less an exercise for me and as I said, silly boys, they could have taken a 5000BTC deposit if they instilled enough trust in me and made off with it into the sunset, too bad ShitZino, you scamming fucks!

If I'm giving away BTC's it's because I'm giving them to charities, not someone's drug kitty because if that rule applies IRL, it also has to apply here, same as casino's really but too bad ShitZino's such an obvious scumjiggery, maybe the next one to come long will be legit. ::)

I'm sure DPR has more than I do, ask him for a handout and see how far you get! lol

Doesn't mean I don't love you though peeps, it's why I came here to tell you all to save your BTC's from these people!


- JWM