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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: duracell on April 29, 2013, 09:07 am

Title: I run a TOR relay/bridge/exit node. What can I do to reduce/stop DDoS on SR?
Post by: duracell on April 29, 2013, 09:07 am
Post here with ideas, IPs, TOR nodes, etc. of the DDoS attack source(s) so we can create IP drop rules, excess traffic drop rules, known (un)affected TOR nodes, etc.

If we could create a realtime db of 'access paths' to SR via unaffected TOR nodes, that changes frequently, to 'beat the traffic' so to speak, would that help? Like a motorbike in car traffic...

Also bear in mind, we DO NOT want to know where SR resides...

Don't go flipside tho, we still want access to SR...

Let the ideas flow...

dc.
Title: Re: I run a TOR relay/bridge/exit node. What can I do to reduce/stop DDoS on SR?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 29, 2013, 10:03 am
Please tell me you do not run a an exit node and also use Silk Road to buy drugs.
Title: Re: I run a TOR relay/bridge/exit node. What can I do to reduce/stop DDoS on SR?
Post by: goblin on April 29, 2013, 10:57 am
I definitely do not think it's a good idea to post any solutions/ideas to stop this out in the open. If people want to help, have them contact DPR directly via PM.

goblin
Title: Re: I run a TOR relay/bridge/exit node. What can I do to reduce/stop DDoS on SR?
Post by: duracell on April 29, 2013, 10:58 am
I run multiple TOR nodes.

I do NOT connect to them.
Title: Re: I run a TOR relay/bridge/exit node. What can I do to reduce/stop DDoS on SR?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 29, 2013, 11:02 am
You know the kinds of data that is being transmitted over your nodes ips?  People get raided for running nodes...
Title: Re: I run a TOR relay/bridge/exit node. What can I do to reduce/stop DDoS on SR?
Post by: duracell on April 29, 2013, 11:14 am
I definitely do not think it's a good idea to post any solutions/ideas to stop this out in the open. If people want to help, have them contact DPR directly via PM.

goblin

directly, I agree.

But does DPR + team have the resources to individually address these questions? In an ideal world, the answer would be yes.

I realise that posting potential solutions to this problem is in effect, helping the 'bad' guy and the 'good' guy at the same time. The real question is, who can implement it first? Cat and mouse, sorry - chicken or egg; and i'm completely open to discussion here.

If the census is, this is a bad idea - let it be forgotten.

However, if the community *is able* (won't know until we try) to 'dedicate themselves to a solution', we may just be able to 'keep ahead of the game' - of course unless someone crucial to the implementation decides to go AWOL.

Thoughts?

dc.
Title: Re: I run a TOR relay/bridge/exit node. What can I do to reduce/stop DDoS on SR?
Post by: goblin on April 29, 2013, 11:27 am
I definitely do not think it's a good idea to post any solutions/ideas to stop this out in the open. If people want to help, have them contact DPR directly via PM.

goblin

directly, I agree.

But does DPR + team have the resources to individually address these questions? In an ideal world, the answer would be yes.

I realise that posting potential solutions to this problem is in effect, helping the 'bad' guy and the 'good' guy at the same time. The real question is, who can implement it first? Cat and mouse, sorry - chicken or egg; and i'm completely open to discussion here.

If the census is, this is a bad idea - let it be forgotten.

However, if the community *is able* (won't know until we try) to 'dedicate themselves to a solution', we may just be able to 'keep ahead of the game' - of course unless someone crucial to the implementation decides to go AWOL.

Thoughts?

dc.
No! that's not what I meant. I simply meant that any contributions toward solving this has got to be addressed via secret means: PM, not out in the forums. Under the radar. The walls have ears, loose lips sink ships, etc.

I think DPR has his/their hands full. The entire community (well, those with extraordinary computer skills anyway) has to pitch in and help, if only he'd be less egotistical and accept our help.

goblin
Title: Re: I run a TOR relay/bridge/exit node. What can I do to reduce/stop DDoS on SR?
Post by: duracell on April 29, 2013, 11:35 am
No! that's not what I meant. I simply meant that any contributions toward solving this has got to be addressed via secret means: PM, not out in the forums. Under the radar. The walls have ears, loose lips sink ships, etc.

I think DPR has his/their hands full. The entire community (well, those with extraordinary computer skills anyway) has to pitch in and help, if only he'd be less egotistical and accept our help.

goblin

gobz man (i'm gonna call you that :)

totally with ya... DPR???

and that was the original intent of my post - how to help???

dc.
Title: Re: I run a TOR relay/bridge/exit node. What can I do to reduce/stop DDoS on SR?
Post by: Naloxone on April 29, 2013, 11:47 am
I'm not an expert on the way that TOR works but I'm almost certain that there is no way to stop your nodes being used in DDoS attacks.

And yeah, I agree that you shouldn't really run an exit node and buy stuff to the same address that your exit node is running. Running a node is probably fine though.