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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: tan on April 26, 2013, 01:17 pm
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Hello everyone,
11 days ago i had placed an order with smile a while and paid the $40 for express shipping, hoping to get the order soon.
Smile a while placed the order in transit 2 days later. In reality the order was shipped 5 days after ordering or 3 days after it was put in transit. Smile a while doesn't seem to understand that marking an order as "in transit" means that it has been shipped, not "i will ship it eventually".
After receiving the order i sent Smile awhile a message, thanking him first, then telling him that for me it is unacceptable that i am being lied to about the shipping date of my order. I also tried to direct his attention to some inconsistencies with his packaging techniques and how they could be improved. And thanked him again.
I also tried to explain to him that 5 days processing time does greatly reduce the advantage of express shipping. He keeps repeating that processing time has nothing to do with express shipping. I wrote him that ordinary priority mail from his place to mine takes 3-7 days and he thinks i was telling him that he said the order would arrive in 3-7 days. He seems to understand English but not the content of what is being said. Sad thing this.
My message was written in a friendly language and meant as constructive critics. Smile awhile reacts as if he had been offended. Well, Smile awhile, if you are offended because you see your reflection in the mirror, help for you will be difficult.
Smile a while replied with 3 messages that have truly shocked me by their usage of dirty language an their aggressive tone. Despite the later than hoped for delivery i was thinking about ordering from him again but after his shocking messages, where his personality truly shines through, i would never ever want to order from him again.
He seems to think that having a good product he can attack and offend his customers with complete lack of manners. He seems to think selling me something for $250 when he pays less than 1/10 of that makes him to a great humanitarian and that i should be eternally thankful to him. He also seems to think that he is the single source in the world for quality H.
For a better understanding, i had (by accident) finalised the order before receiving it, but Smile awhile keeps thinking i didn't want to pay him even when the order had already been paid for long ago by FE.
Please read and form your own opinion:
MESSAGES FROM SMILE AWHILE:
first message of 3:
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"So what's your problem? You don't want to pay the $40 for shipment? As I explained to you before the express shipping has nothing to do with how long it takes to get shipped.
No1 priority is our safety and people who work for us. Not what you think is acceptable you fucking retard!!!
What you think this is Amazon?? What planet are you on?? I never give stranger any detailed info on shipping.
For our SAFETY and SECURITY and I do not give a fuck what you think is reasonable! You don't want to pay you ungratreful cunt then we can sort it out in resolution!!
You fucking junkie retard! The best heroin in the world shipped from a very brutal country from a shippers point of view.
Like i say i'll add you to the vendors blacklist and we will sort out payment in resolution.
Your an idiotSo what's your problem? You don't want to pay the $40 for shipment? As I explained to you before the express shipping has nothing to do with how long it takes to get shipped.
No1 priority is our safety and people who work for us. Not what you think is acceptable you fucking retard!!!
What you think this is Amazon?? What planet are you on?? I never give stranger any detailed info on shipping.
For our SAFETY and SECURITY and I do not give a fuck what you think is reasonable! You don't want to pay you ungratreful cunt then we can sort it out in resolution!!
You fucking junkie retard! The best heroin in the world shipped from a very brutal country from a shippers point of view.
Like i say i'll add you to the vendors blacklist and we will sort out payment in resolution.
Your an idiot!!"
second message:
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Oh i remember now you FE by accident! Well don't contact us again with your pompous attitude! We won't do another order for you and leave whatever feedback you wish! You have no idea how unique what we offer is. Uncut from the refinery! Nobody does that, not even 90% of the big chinese customers who by kgs get this quality as most is cut and re-bricked a soon as it leaves Burma!
Leave what ever fedback you like, dick!
third message:
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Also you STUPID cunt! Where does it say anything about 3-7 days for orders! It says 4-10 days! Asswipe
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THIS IS WHY WE CANT HAVE NICE THINGS
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Hello everyone,
11 days ago i had placed an order with smile a while and paid the $40 for express shipping, hoping to get the order soon.
Smile a while placed the order in transit 2 days later. In reality the order was shipped 5 days after ordering or 3 days after it was put in transit. Smile a while doesn't seem to understand that marking an order as "in transit" means that it has been shipped, not "i will ship it eventually".
After receiving the order i sent Smile awhile a message, thanking him first, then telling him that for me it is unacceptable that i am being lied to about the shipping date of my order. I also tried to direct his attention to some inconsistencies with his packaging techniques and how they could be improved. And thanked him again.
I also tried to explain to him that 5 days processing time does greatly reduce the advantage of express shipping. He keeps repeating that processing time has nothing to do with express shipping. I wrote him that ordinary priority mail from his place to mine takes 3-7 days and he thinks i was telling him that he said the order would arrive in 3-7 days. He seems to understand English but not the content of what is being said. Sad thing this.
My message was written in a friendly language and meant as constructive critics. Smile awhile reacts as if he had been offended. Well, Smile awhile, if you are offended because you see your reflection in the mirror, help for you will be difficult.
Smile a while replied with 3 messages that have truly shocked me by their usage of dirty language an their aggressive tone. Despite the later than hoped for delivery i was thinking about ordering from him again but after his shocking messages, where his personality truly shines through, i would never ever want to order from him again.
He seems to think that having a good product he can attack and offend his customers with complete lack of manners. He seems to think selling me something for $250 when he pays less than 1/10 of that makes him to a great humanitarian and that i should be eternally thankful to him. He also seems to think that he is the single source in the world for quality H.
For a better understanding, i had (by accident) finalised the order before receiving it, but Smile awhile keeps thinking i didn't want to pay him even when the order had already been paid for long ago by FE.
Please read and form your own opinion:
MY MESSAGE TO SMILE AWHILE:
Hello saw,
Your letter has arrived, thank you. It was the correct item, quality and weight. The packaging was good too.
The order was placed on April 15 and marked as shipped on April 17. Which is incorrect. It was shipped on April 20. If i had been furnished with the true shipment date, i wouldn't have needed to anxiously await the shipment all that time.
All together it has taken 11 days for the order to arrive. According to statistical info, ordinary priority mail from XXX (changed) takes 3-7 days to arrive here, which i can support with empirical data since other mail items from that region have arrived to me within that time frame. So the $40 or so for express shipment when the seller takes 5 days to ship is not reasonable.
While i like the communication with you, the quality of your product and also accept the price and country of shipment, it really is not acceptable to mark an item as shipped when it is not, when it will be shipped 3 days later only. I would want to order more than 2g next time but in matters as critical as this i need to be able to rely on the information given to me and that the tracking number is provided after shipping.
While i can appreciate that you want to keep your methods of shipment undeclared, this information is accesible to me as soon as the shipment arrives anyway. So it can only be the matter of not announcing the tracking # before arrival. For this i can see no reason which is more important than my need to be informed as early and as correctly as possible about the shipment.
Thanks again for providing me with such a great product.
Regards,
tan
P.S. I've seen the actual packaging method before. It is usable for small amounts like 2g. Does it still work with 5g?
For this to be plausible everything needs to be consistent. While the packaging of the actual product is great, sending a fake certificate with an American name and address, to a recipient with a different name and resident in XXX (changed) is as suspicious as it gets.
SMILE AWHILE REPLIED WITH THESE:
first message of 3:
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"So what's your problem? You don't want to pay the $40 for shipment? As I explained to you before the express shipping has nothing to do with how long it takes to get shipped.
No1 priority is our safety and people who work for us. Not what you think is acceptable you fucking retard!!!
What you think this is Amazon?? What planet are you on?? I never give stranger any detailed info on shipping.
For our SAFETY and SECURITY and I do not give a fuck what you think is reasonable! You don't want to pay you ungratreful cunt then we can sort it out in resolution!!
You fucking junkie retard! The best heroin in the world shipped from a very brutal country from a shippers point of view.
Like i say i'll add you to the vendors blacklist and we will sort out payment in resolution.
Your an idiotSo what's your problem? You don't want to pay the $40 for shipment? As I explained to you before the express shipping has nothing to do with how long it takes to get shipped.
No1 priority is our safety and people who work for us. Not what you think is acceptable you fucking retard!!!
What you think this is Amazon?? What planet are you on?? I never give stranger any detailed info on shipping.
For our SAFETY and SECURITY and I do not give a fuck what you think is reasonable! You don't want to pay you ungratreful cunt then we can sort it out in resolution!!
You fucking junkie retard! The best heroin in the world shipped from a very brutal country from a shippers point of view.
Like i say i'll add you to the vendors blacklist and we will sort out payment in resolution.
Your an idiot!!"
second message:
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Oh i remember now you FE by accident! Well don't contact us again with your pompous attitude! We won't do another order for you and leave whatever feedback you wish! You have no idea how unique what we offer is. Uncut from the refinery! Nobody does that, not even 90% of the big chinese customers who by kgs get this quality as most is cut and re-bricked a soon as it leaves Burma!
Leave what ever fedback you like, dick!
third message:
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Also you STUPID cunt! Where does it say anything about 3-7 days for orders! It says 4-10 days! Asswipe
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Did you talk to SAW before placing the order regarding Express Shipping? If so, and he agreed to it, you should get your money back (but you won't). The way he responded to your message is unprofessional enough to keep me away. I hate ordering something express when the vendor sits on it for days - completely defeats the purpose of Express!
I understand your frustration. The only thing you can do in the future is verify with vendors prior to placing the order by saying something like "I'm about to place an order for X and want to take advantage of your Express Shipping option. Do Express items go to the front of the line?" or something to that effect.
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WTF does the vendor think people pay express shipping for? Just for the fuck of it?
Weird.
I can see them not telling you immediately when they send it, but they shouldn't mark it in transit until after it's left their hands.
They should wait a day or two to mark it in transit if it already was, and then message you to let you know when it went out (or when you can expect it) so you can watch out for it properly, that would take care of their security needs and allow you to actually receive express items in an express manner.
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I would not have to think twice before ordering from SAW
he's the best of the best at what he does.
I am sorry for how you feel, but in my eyes you are barking at a wall.
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TAN
Best of luck talking smack with other vendors
You may have to change your username and start from scratch
The Feedback Loop
Not a FAN
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This makes me see this guy in a diffrent light no matter how good the product is..
Iv been going through issues with the new vendor 'Terabithia' i bought just 1 stamp to try her out over 9 days ago it never showed, 1st class, EAST COAST TO LOWER EAST COAST! and then she tells me she is gonna send it priority and 4 xtra stamps, Have yet to see that as well.
The year i have been here i have never ever been to resolution and they contacted me yesterday and i gave the lying vendor another 7 days to get me my dope, And she excepted.
She msg me yesterday saying 'Did u get it yet'? 'If not ill send overnight' I told her if u really even sent my package priority then u should know to check the tracking and realize i dont have my damn drugs.. So she then writes me today saying 'It will be there today' No package though.. Stay away from vendor as well
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This makes me see this guy in a diffrent light no matter how good the product is..
Iv been going through issues with the new vendor 'Terabithia' i bought just 1 stamp to try her out over 9 days ago it never showed, 1st class, EAST COAST TO LOWER EAST COAST! and then she tells me she is gonna send it priority and 4 xtra stamps, Have yet to see that as well.
The year i have been here i have never ever been to resolution and they contacted me yesterday and i gave the lying vendor another 7 days to get me my dope, And she excepted.
She msg me yesterday saying 'Did u get it yet'? 'If not ill send overnight' I told her if u really even sent my package priority then u should know to check the tracking and realize i dont have my damn drugs.. So she then writes me today saying 'It will be there today' No package though.. Stay away from vendor as well
This has nothing to do with SAW.
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Seems to me good gear is worth waiting for, and SAW doesn't state 24hour delivery.
Yeah his language is abusive but you didn't post your side of the PMs, a little biased and makes it difficult for us to help you out objectively.
I'm about to order from SAW. From reading his profile I expect the package to turn up, when it turns up and it will be tracked and signed for.
So far as I can see you are complaining cos he posted the parcel 3 days late.
Maybe his system works like that? It goes from place to place, person to person and it gets market shipped at some point before it's actually put in the post.
I'm not trying to stick up for a guy I don't know but maybe you should take the rough with the smooth a little more on the SR?
These are drug deals and you got your extremely good dope didn't you?
/devils advocate
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This thread is the equivalent to someone playing the worlds smallest violin.
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Tan, did you read his fucking profile page before you ordered? SAW doesn't make guarantees about when he will ship. When he ships is dictated by his extremely precarious security situation. And considering where it's coming from, receiving in a 10-day timeframe is pretty damned good.
You had no reason to assume that ordering Express meant that you'd get it in any particular accelerated timeframe. He's clear on the profile that Express simply ensures that it is tracked, and thus allows you not to FE and to get something back in the case of interception.
STOP ASSUMING THAT EXPRESS MEANS VENDORS ARE GOING TO DROP EVERYTHING FOR YOUR JUNKIE ASS, unless they say so specifically up front. If you want that kind of service, go pay $300+/g to the domestic resellers who will hold your hand and blow you kisses through the transaction while they're ripping you off.
I just don't know how his profile could be any clearer about why your complaints are utterly invalid. SAW is not a normal domestic vendor.
And, you're offended by his language? A junkie, buying H on the internet, and your virgin ears have been offended by profanity? That's a fucking laugh dude. Suck it up. You deserved it - whether he understood you entirely or not, you were wasting his time with your bullshit when you had top-shelf product in hand and should have just been enjoying it.
You were lucky enough to get some of the best H on earth, at reasonable prices, and pretty damned fast. What in the hell possessed you to take so much time out to bitch and moan, to post the same quotes and text slagging him off all over the forums - and all because he won't risk being tortured and disappeared to get illegal narcotics out to you a couple days sooner? Seriously: suck a dick and choke on it, you entitled fucking moron.
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Can only second the statement "did you read the profile of saw"
Considering where he ships from I would get very pissed as if someone declares publicly part of his shipping methods.
And to then mention his costing is again something you should have your balls removed for.
He may pay x for his product but by the time the lacky chain gets it into the mail so you get it safely could easily triple his cost and having an
Idea how it works over there he is taking very big risks which need to be considered and costed , bribes being the most common.
I can full understand why he spat his dummy at you, the stress attached to touching the stuff over there is huge and to also deal with all the ethnic crap
compounds it. You have no idea what it is like to be over there doing dodgy things, the strain would effect most people.
You have got what you needed to hear, stay with the KISS principle and all will be well.
He is an expert at what he does and he does not need you or anyone else to tell him how to run his business. He is the best heroin vendor on the road with the best product and does not need a user of the said product telling him how to go about it.
I am trying to be a little more subtle than XOLLERO but you are a fool and should never try to teach the best at what they do anything.
You spend shit with him compared to some and you should be offering him a lifetime of blow jobs for even staying on the road and putting up with idiots like you.
He could drop into stealth and still be very well rewarded and never have to deal with fuckwits like you ever again.
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what a joke.