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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: Kikotoby on March 26, 2013, 04:42 pm
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Please guys ive seen alot of post,s lately describing exactly how we do business and sometimes even how some of the stealth works.This is just not smart so i propose that if you have a brilliant brain fart please do not post it here.Send it PM it to someone but dont give details .THiS IS A WAR NO ? Well in wartime LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS got it ? .Please guys i have a few LE buddies and one ex DEA friend they read this stuff! (god forbid he they knew i was into this shit lol I feel like an episode of WEEDS lol.. Ok all jokes aside keep you thouhts to yourself or TORMAIL someon but dont give these guys help..Thank s and have nice day..
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Once someone becomes LE they are an ex-friend.
Like you said, this is a war.
Do we need to shave your head for fraternizing with the enemy? :D
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Well if LE is reading this thread we want them to know that we appreciate the work they do in catching real criminals - those individuals who intentionally harm and steal from others.
That the anonymous market is better than dirty street drugs - because the products are reviewed by peers. It's safer and whether they admit it or not, deep down they know they're just doing this job for the money and that this "War against drugs" is one that the government will never win.
Dear LE, if you're unhappy with your job (which is actually immoral considering that you know SR increases drug safety) then move along - don't be a government puppet just for an income of a privately owned fiat currency that doesn't have any more real value than our unregulated BTC.
Blessings to all...
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Well if LE is reading this thread we want them to know that we appreciate the work they do in catching real criminals - those individuals who intentionally harm and steal from others.
That the anonymous market is better than dirty street drugs - because the products are reviewed by peers. It's safer and whether they admit it or not, deep down they know they're just doing this job for the money and that this "War against drugs" is one that the government will never win.
Dear LE, if you're unhappy with your job (which is actually immoral considering that you know SR increases drug safety) then move along - don't be a government puppet just for an income of a privately owned fiat currency that doesn't have any more real value than our unregulated BTC.
Blessings to all...
Well played
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It is always best practice to assume anything you post here is being read carefully by law enforcement.
The same way you should assume any standard unencrypted email message is being intercepted and read.
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Please guys ive seen alot of post,s lately describing exactly how we do business and sometimes even how some of the stealth works.This is just not smart so i propose that if you have a brilliant brain fart please do not post it here.Send it PM it to someone but dont give details .THiS IS A WAR NO ? Well in wartime LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS got it ? .Please guys i have a few LE buddies and one ex DEA friend they read this stuff! (god forbid he they knew i was into this shit lol I feel like an episode of WEEDS lol.. Ok all jokes aside keep you thouhts to yourself or TORMAIL someon but dont give these guys help..Thank s and have nice day..
Wow really? You mean someone reading this might work for the Police? Jesus, the intelligence of contributors certainly hasn't increased in my absence...
V.
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Thank you polyphemusperception & great advice newbottles!
Play it smart, safe and fair. Hurt or wrong nobody: LE = Lost end...
Hahahahaha
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Well if LE is reading this thread we want them to know that we appreciate the work they do in catching real criminals - those individuals who intentionally harm and steal from others.
That the anonymous market is better than dirty street drugs - because the products are reviewed by peers. It's safer and whether they admit it or not, deep down they know they're just doing this job for the money and that this "War against drugs" is one that the government will never win.
Dear LE, if you're unhappy with your job (which is actually immoral considering that you know SR increases drug safety) then move along - don't be a government puppet just for an income of a privately owned fiat currency that doesn't have any more real value than our unregulated BTC.
Blessings to all...
In 9 posts time I'm going to be able to give people karma, you are first on my list!
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Thanks balltripper,
But now that we can post on the main boards we're going to (tastefully) promote our small BMR store.
The two domestic Australian vendors on SR that are selling dexamphetamine pills are selling them at $10USD per pill! It's a little greedy considering we know how much they buy them for...
We understand that coming on an SR board to talk about a BMR store might make people upset so if giving us good karma will reduce your good karma (don't really know how the karma system works yet) then don't risk it.
If not then we'll send some your way also when we hit 100 posts... ;D
Best of luck,
AUS-SmartDrugs
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Please guys ive seen alot of post,s lately describing exactly how we do business and sometimes even how some of the stealth works.This is just not smart so i propose that if you have a brilliant brain fart please do not post it here.Send it PM it to someone but dont give details .THiS IS A WAR NO ? Well in wartime LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS got it ? .Please guys i have a few LE buddies and one ex DEA friend they read this stuff! (god forbid he they knew i was into this shit lol I feel like an episode of WEEDS lol.. Ok all jokes aside keep you thouhts to yourself or TORMAIL someon but dont give these guys help..Thank s and have nice day..
Yes. Threads containing such info are locked where needed. If something is potentially detrimental need to be quoted to mods or the poster in question must be approached. Who to approach depends on how big an issue it is an whether the poster is a dickhead. Some are just well-intentioned. Like explicit detail of stealth in a review. Others need to be shot 40 times. Like [edit.] who claimed he actually wanted to get caught, and then when he did, unreservedly told them everything let them use his computer. Fuck head.
Someone asked this same question about 2 months ago. They said they were doing a report or review or article or some phuking thing. So yeah, it's come up before. Lol, what do you mean you have a few LE buddies and one ex DEA friend? Hell is wrong with you?! I didn't know cops were even CAPABLE of having friends, thanks for your correction.
Thanks for actually thinking though. It's so rare around here. (I nearly fell off my chair when I realised. :o ) Have a cookie. ::) (+K)
It is always best practice to assume anything you post here is being read carefully by law enforcement.
The same way you should assume any standard unencrypted email message is being intercepted and read.
*SIGH* See...... this is why I hate only having one sig. That's pretty much a mantra to me, always has been, since I started this account. It's sensible advice. PMs offer a little more protection, not perfect, but better. If you have something explicit to say about packaging or something else like that, then keep it the phuc of main. Bit of common sense goes a long way. Have a cookie. ::) (+K)
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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I have yet to make a purchase here. One reason is money and the other reason is LE fear. I am here looking for high quality drugs because you never now what you are going to get on the street.
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I agree about having tight lips. (above and below). The majority of LE believe they are doing the world a favor by "taking drugs off the street" and "protecting children". Which couldn't be any farther from the truth. It accomplishes nothing. Prohibition does not work. The government know that. Why are they still trying? Who knows... Anyway guys be safe.
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no shit sherlock
but really who cares? are you giveing out your address, your name? your face book page?
Its all just information for them to use, to try and track an anonymous user.....
"Whats the Big Whoop"
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I agree with the OP 100%. No info, no leads, waste of their time. But when members give info and details, they will become more and more interested, and continue to watch even more. STFU and use your brain(not insulting anyone, just being real), common sense goes a long way. Lack of common sense can get you going the wrong way. Be safe, be smart and don't bring attention to yourselves.
Cheers kik. Great post!
-PB
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Leaks.... WikiLeaks... SR Leaks...
Wanna take down an organization? Military? Society? Spill the secrets....
Breach of information in a democracy is a public fight. Truth is a matter of belief in politics. When it comes to the Road, truth is a service to both LE and SR. Wise vendors see these mistakes, adapts.
So, for the prepared Libertarian, you are secure in your methods. OCD is a way of life.
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It's good to see this thread's title, to remind yourself of such the obvious. This place tends to bring a feeling of invincibility in terms of privacy, but it's always better safe than sorry :)
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Loose lips sinks ships.... remember that before you speak about anything, especially on SR.
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no shit sherlock
but really who cares? are you giveing out your address, your name? your face book page?
Its all just information for them to use, to try and track an anonymous user.....
"Whats the Big Whoop"
In all my time on Silk Road forums this post is the most stupid, ignorant and naive post I have ever read. CON-GRAT-U-LAT-IONS......
Do yourself, and us, a favour and read up on this shit before joining or don't join at all. I'm not giving you a proper reply b/c you are too stupid to understand it. Someone had to tell you.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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What annoys me is people putting the country that the item was sent to in their feedback... It makes no sense to bring attention to the country that you item has been sent from as it will only increase the level of attention it receives when it comes through customs
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Ramblings of paranoid idiots.
1 thread is vendor verdicts the next thread is please no vendor verdicts.
Get fuckin real.
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No they don't, and they don't have fake buyer and seller accounts and make buys and sells.
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im not saying they dont look here im saying that jo blow posting that he got his weed into canada by express post from (insert vendor) and from the usa is gona mean shit to the feds,they already know that.............thats why they are here.And what else do any of the buyers here have to tell?Fuckin joke.
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What annoys me is people putting the country that the item was sent to in their feedback... It makes no sense to bring attention to the country that you item has been sent from as it will only increase the level of attention it receives when it comes through customs
aT least put FAKE COUNTRIES!!! TO PROTECT SELLERS... Counter-intelligence.... what's real? Feedback about PRODUCT should always be TRUE. sTEalth Security should be vague but honest. Location: fuck up the feds. My drugs come from ?????
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Please guys ive seen alot of post,s lately describing exactly how we do business and sometimes even how some of the stealth works.This is just not smart so i propose that if you have a brilliant brain fart please do not post it here.Send it PM it to someone but dont give details .THiS IS A WAR NO ? Well in wartime LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS got it ? .Please guys i have a few LE buddies and one ex DEA friend they read this stuff! (god forbid he they knew i was into this shit lol I feel like an episode of WEEDS lol.. Ok all jokes aside keep you thouhts to yourself or TORMAIL someon but dont give these guys help..Thank s and have nice day..
Loose lips sinks ships applies to well, individual cases. Like if I said my address here I would be fucked. I don't think it really matters, the stealth works, they can't fuck with ordinary people's mail to much. Bitching citizens have sunk far bigger ships than you can imagine. The golden rule of postage is timeliness.
I'm actually using the username of a wannabe drug dealer try hard so lol.
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I say it doesn't matter if they are here or not. Just don't fuck up by giving up identifying info and everything is fine.
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No free lunch, mateys! Arrrrr....
http://www.corbettreport.com/episode-262-solutions-pirate-internet/
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LE needs to take the tampons out of their smelly vaginas. TSS can develop if you leave them in too long...just a friendly tip for LE
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Everybody's LE here, isn't it obvious?
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ACTUALLY SILK ROAD IS RUN BY THE DEA LOL WHAT A STUPID THREAD OP
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Newbies... is that the bottom line?
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My own theory is that it's a hell of a lot easier for the Police to ask Customs to keep a closer eye on the contents of packages and divert more resources for the same than set up an elaborate sting, the results of which could well not stand up in a court of law. Actual possession however is usually irrefutable provided they can prove that you knew the contents of a package - of course I am speaking in general terms.
Nevertheless you know the kind of precautions you need to take when placing orders such as using the seller's PGP key to encrypt your address, ideally paying cash to obtain BTC and running them through a coin mixer before purchasing. I wouldn't want to seem hypocritical for suggesting that you avoid giving out too much identifiable information on the forums but being a member here isn't a crime in itself - the fact I'm still at liberty in itself shows that. :-)
V.
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I had somebody message me about shipping, saying they need to know all sorts of information, my response was no info and don't contact me.
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Once someone becomes LE they are an ex-friend.
Like you said, this is a war.
Do we need to shave your head for fraternizing with the enemy? :D
LOL no im no fraternizing but i grew up around them and they know the useless war on drugs is getting us no where ...My one buddy wrote his thesis on why Drugs should be legalized and the other quit the force because he saw it for what it was..
Also i wrote this thread because of one i read the other day saying "where do you put your stash" I mean come on thats just dumb..why give them a heads up where we put our drugs ? you know ..take care my friend..Im rider for life and ive been locked up too many times for you to worry about my allegances lol. .
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Please guys ive seen alot of post,s lately describing exactly how we do business and sometimes even how some of the stealth works.This is just not smart so i propose that if you have a brilliant brain fart please do not post it here.Send it PM it to someone but dont give details .THiS IS A WAR NO ? Well in wartime LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS got it ? .Please guys i have a few LE buddies and one ex DEA friend they read this stuff! (god forbid he they knew i was into this shit lol I feel like an episode of WEEDS lol.. Ok all jokes aside keep you thouhts to yourself or TORMAIL someon but dont give these guys help..Thank s and have nice day..
Yes. Threads containing such info are locked where needed. If something is potentially detrimental need to be quoted to mods or the poster in question must be approached. Who to approach depends on how big an issue it is an whether the poster is a dickhead. Some are just well-intentioned. Like explicit detail of stealth in a review. Others need to be shot 40 times. Like [edit.] who claimed he actually wanted to get caught, and then when he did, unreservedly told them everything let them use his computer. Fuck head.
Someone asked this same question about 2 months ago. They said they were doing a report or review or article or some phuking thing. So yeah, it's come up before. Lol, what do you mean you have a few LE buddies and one ex DEA friend? Hell is wrong with you?! I didn't know cops were even CAPABLE of having friends, thanks for your correction.
Thanks for actually thinking though. It's so rare around here. (I nearly fell off my chair when I realised. :o ) Have a cookie. ::) (+K)
It is always best practice to assume anything you post here is being read carefully by law enforcement.
The same way you should assume any standard unencrypted email message is being intercepted and read.
*SIGH* See...... this is why I hate only having one sig. That's pretty much a mantra to me, always has been, since I started this account. It's sensible advice. PMs offer a little more protection, not perfect, but better. If you have something explicit to say about packaging or something else like that, then keep it the phuc of main. Bit of common sense goes a long way. Have a cookie. ::) (+K)
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Yea i got alot of shit for this by some aussie guy who thought i was being stupid for pointing out the obviose but it was really because i read something on a thread recently about (where do you hide your stash)? and i thought how dumb is that .SO yea AUSSIE sorry i know you where born a hero member but im just JR ..MY BAD.... So that was the reason i posted this sortof just a way to remind people and to let some of the newbies to be carefull what you say..
When i say LE buddies i mean i grew up in a nieghborhood where there are alot of straight laced people that i went to school with and i still speak with them.. And the DEA friend is ex done and out and he even admits to how fruitless the war on drugs is and was ...SR is the best thing that has happened to me . Long live the SR..
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I agree with the OP 100%. No info, no leads, waste of their time. But when members give info and details, they will become more and more interested, and continue to watch even more. STFU and use your brain(not insulting anyone, just being real), common sense goes a long way. Lack of common sense can get you going the wrong way. Be safe, be smart and don't bring attention to yourselves.
Cheers kik. Great post!
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Cheeer PHIL i got a bit of shit for posting as like what i was saying was just the dumbest of dumb things but it was in response to a post the read (WHERE DO YOU HIDE YOUR STASH!) Do you beleive that one ? lol dumb..Anyway that and some other things ive seen on the road,stealth how it works this and that i felt that some needed a reminder but AUSI felt this was a good place to spam his site and talk shit about me ....screw em ..But for the smart people like yourself we shall stay smart ..
Thanks and cheers cowboy!
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I think that the fact that Newbies read these it is good to point out the obvious. Not everyone has street smarts, remember that. If you don't tell some people not to stick their hand in the fire they will do it every time. It is those people who need to read all these things and know what to say and not to say on line. I am sure LE not only read these they probably are members as well, so BE CAREFUL.
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I really wish law enforcement would leave people like us that are exploring our minds. We`re not hurting anyone except ourselves and most people research products before purchasing. Its about harm reduction and freedom of choice.
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To any LE officers and the likes,
Stop wasting time and our tax money on reading drug user forums. There are tons of unsolved murders, child abductions, child pornographers running loose, no wonder the majority of people today mistrust L when their priorities are so mixed up.
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the fact is this, there have been vendors on here that have advertised things with wording like "border proof" and coincidentally their packages suddenly were not even "border resistant" and really more like "border alerts".
if you rub it in their face, even with their small time resources devoted to this war, there are some smart folks on that side. and it just takes one to give a shit and make someone else's life fucking stressful as hell.....
that vendor is awfully quiet these days. and we ALL learned from that. well, i thought we did anyway.
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those sneaky fucks read everything
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Vendor Testing
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ALL NEW VENDORS GET FAKE ADDRESSES.... SOMETIMES LE ADDRESSES.
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Not only did I assume that law enforcement reading the forums, but I assume a lot of TOR nodes are operated by law enforcement. TOR will eventually crack, like any form of encryption is finally, depending entirely on the mechanisms of TOR to protect yourself is a bad idea. I do most of my TOR activity on a laptop with piggyback open wireless in a nearby town - different than city i live and work in. What some call paranoia is what I call good security.
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And there's enough of a marketplace on SR that resale values certainly fund and fuel such evasive tactics. As long as you stay out of trouble, the cops don't care as much. I think part of that is revealed in that The Last Watch--or End Watch? With the gay cowboy... the one from Bareback Valley.
Anyway, I'm still getting used to this "anonymous" internet. I started off by using LE-threatening language. No S.WA.T. No busts or raids. Then again, I do have more paranoia than most. I bleach my apartment at least once a week due to OCD and microbiology texts. Plus, I'm super stoned. Thanks SR. I got stoned on Easter-Eve.
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And there's enough of a marketplace on SR that resale values certainly fund and fuel such evasive tactics. As long as you stay out of trouble, the cops don't care as much. I think part of that is revealed in that The Last Watch--or End Watch? With the gay cowboy... the one from Bareback Valley.
Anyway, I'm still getting used to this "anonymous" internet. I started off by using LE-threatening language. No S.WA.T. No busts or raids. Then again, I do have more paranoia than most. I bleach my apartment at least once a week due to OCD and microbiology texts. Plus, I'm super stoned. Thanks SR. I got stoned on Easter-Eve.
It would seem from what I've seen so far that you're right in that Police take a magnanimous view of those who use Silk Road in a discrete way. As you know most of the problems caused by drugs are because they are illegal - they are not illegal because they cause problems! SR addresses a lot of these issues in that it means you don't have shady characters outside school gates trying to sell skag to bovine kids as well as making sure the purity of drugs are more consistent.
V.
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And there's enough of a marketplace on SR that resale values certainly fund and fuel such evasive tactics. As long as you stay out of trouble, the cops don't care as much. I think part of that is revealed in that The Last Watch--or End Watch? With the gay cowboy... the one from Bareback Valley.
Anyway, I'm still getting used to this "anonymous" internet. I started off by using LE-threatening language. No S.WA.T. No busts or raids. Then again, I do have more paranoia than most. I bleach my apartment at least once a week due to OCD and microbiology texts. Plus, I'm super stoned. Thanks SR. I got stoned on Easter-Eve.
It would seem from what I've seen so far that you're right in that Police take a magnanimous view of those who use Silk Road in a discrete way. As you know most of the problems caused by drugs are because they are illegal - they are not illegal because they cause problems! SR addresses a lot of these issues in that it means you don't have shady characters outside school gates trying to sell skag to bovine kids as well as making sure the purity of drugs are more consistent.
V.
Very well put. Thanks for the reply!
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It would seem from what I've seen so far that you're right in that Police take a magnanimous view of those who use Silk Road in a discrete way. As you know most of the problems caused by drugs are because they are illegal - they are not illegal because they cause problems! SR addresses a lot of these issues in that it means you don't have shady characters outside school gates trying to sell skag to bovine kids as well as making sure the purity of drugs are more consistent.
V.
beautiful. i love a touch of philosophy.
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they sure do
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Somebody set up us the bomb. ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US.
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Thanks for the info
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Every time I see a cop, I punch him in his tits.
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Not only did I assume that law enforcement reading the forums, but I assume a lot of TOR nodes are operated by law enforcement. TOR will eventually crack, like any form of encryption is finally, depending entirely on the mechanisms of TOR to protect yourself is a bad idea. I do most of my TOR activity on a laptop with piggyback open wireless in a nearby town - different than city i live and work in. What some call paranoia is what I call good security.
I think that you are right about a lot of Tor exit notes being run by LE!
I cant seem to find it at the moment, but i am certain that i read a while back that some American university had been analyzing the Tor network and their research showed that more than half of the Tor exit nodes in US were located in the same room :o
I will see if i can dig up the article again, but if that is true, i think it is a good indication that those exit notes are being run by either CIA, NSA, or some other bullshit agency!
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Wacha gonna do when they come for you?
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What annoys me is people putting the country that the item was sent to in their feedback... It makes no sense to bring attention to the country that you item has been sent from as it will only increase the level of attention it receives when it comes through customs
aT least put FAKE COUNTRIES!!! TO PROTECT SELLERS... Counter-intelligence.... what's real? Feedback about PRODUCT should always be TRUE. sTEalth Security should be vague but honest. Location: fuck up the feds. My drugs come from ?????
Mega +1 on this. Simple counter-intelligence tactics should be widely discussed on these boards. Good point buddy.