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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: sofish89 on May 11, 2013, 09:09 pm

Title: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: sofish89 on May 11, 2013, 09:09 pm
I've been hearing all these reports of ppl being able to create their own guns completely out of plastic using 3d printing..
What exactly is 3d printing and how could just anybody make a gun from it?
Is this the beginning of the end to gun control just like SR is the beginning of the end to drug control?
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: Ѕpongebоb on May 11, 2013, 09:32 pm
You currently need an extremely expensive printer to print a viable gun. They are as inaccurate as all hell. The plastic barrel is not rifled. They melt and fall apart.

Look it up on google or youtube. DEFCAD is leading the way.
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: Ballzinator on May 11, 2013, 11:34 pm
Ha, wait until metal 3D printers hit the consumer market, that's when shit's getting serious :D
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: AmnesiaBlackout on May 12, 2013, 01:21 am
I saw this on the news a couple of days ago, and a friend of mine has a 3D printer . I wouldn't mind getting my hands on the blueprints :P
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: heavysmoker on May 12, 2013, 01:27 am
The files to make your own gun are free and open source.  The state department has asked defense distributed to take the files down, but they are still available on the pirate bay.  I am currently seeding the torrent. 

Its funny that the government has public service announcements telling young women to be careful about what they post on-line, how it can never be taken down ect.  At the same time they think that they will somehow be able to delete the liberator blueprint from Internet. 

I have donated bitcoin to defense distributed, Cody Wilson is doing great work :)
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: BreakOnThrough on May 12, 2013, 01:40 am
The files to make your own gun are free and open source.  The state department has asked defense distributed to take the files down, but they are still available on the pirate bay.  I am currently seeding the torrent. 

Its funny that the government has public service announcements telling young women to be careful about what they post on-line, how it can never be taken down ect.  At the same time they think that they will somehow be able to delete the liberator blueprint from Internet. 

I have donated bitcoin to defense distributed, Cody Wilson is doing great work :)
Genuine question, why?
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: p3nd8s on May 12, 2013, 01:47 am
Ha, wait until metal 3D printers hit the consumer market, that's when shit's getting serious :D

They already exist, you can print things out in stainless steel, aluminum, practically any metal you choose.
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: heavysmoker on May 12, 2013, 01:50 am
Im seeding the torrent to spread the information so other people can print their own guns, but I'm assuming you are asking why i donated bitcoin.

I donated money to support the disruptive technology.  I don't think the government should be regulating what guns people can own, or how many bullets they should have in a magazine.  As a medical marijuana patient, the Feds say i should not have access to a firearm because i am "addicted to drugs".

I am very much against gun control and donating to the project was my way to say FU to the feds and increase the access to firearms.
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: PerPETualMOtion on May 12, 2013, 03:18 am
3D printing AND DRUGS!!!!

Or at least drug making/using paraphernalia.
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: sofish89 on May 12, 2013, 10:40 am
Ha, wait until metal 3D printers hit the consumer market, that's when shit's getting serious :D
I thought the main issue  of the 3d guns (made of plastic) is that they can get past any metal detectors or security..
In that case I would understand the governemnt cracking down on these, however theres only so much big brother can do before they realize they cant control every aspect of our lives..
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: Deutsche Bank on May 12, 2013, 11:50 am
Americans and their guns, haha (I'm sorry for generalizing).
I can't wait until someone runs amok with 3D printed weapons, especially for the NRA's statement afterwards.
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: Ballzinator on May 12, 2013, 12:28 pm
Ha, wait until metal 3D printers hit the consumer market, that's when shit's getting serious :D

They already exist, you can print things out in stainless steel, aluminum, practically any metal you choose.
Yes, but not on the consumer market.

3D printing AND DRUGS!!!!

Or at least drug making/using paraphernalia.
This might be of interest to you:
http://www.vice.com/read/in-the-future-your-drug-dealer-will-be-a-printer
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: dryice on May 12, 2013, 01:30 pm
I'm going to buy a printer. They are prob shit guns but I will do it just for the fuck u factor it brings.
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 12, 2013, 01:46 pm
3D printing AND DRUGS!!!!

Or at least drug making/using paraphernalia.
This might be of interest to you:
http://www.vice.com/read/in-the-future-your-drug-dealer-will-be-a-printer

I'm going to download my drug apps and print my drugs?  Now that's exciting!
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: HeatFireFlame on May 12, 2013, 02:13 pm
yeah this is pretty damn cool, I cant believe how easy it's becoming, However i guarantee the Secret service will have something implanted in the high quality and level printers to tell who's printing guns on a large scale. The same as if you get high quality printers they monitor for counterfeit bills.

The technology can only advance as we go along and in the next ten years or so, It'll all be widely available. But i can almost put a BTC on the fact that the government will try and restrict the tech and hold it back until they find a way to control it.
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: AmnesiaBlackout on May 12, 2013, 02:48 pm
So my mate said I can print the gun out on his printer next time I see him, that'll be interesting :)

It's a shame I can't sell em on SR!
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: Ballzinator on May 12, 2013, 03:06 pm
So my mate said I can print the gun out on his printer next time I see him, that'll be interesting :)

It's a shame I can't sell em on SR!
You can on BMR :)
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: HeatFireFlame on May 12, 2013, 03:19 pm
So my mate said I can print the gun out on his printer next time I see him, that'll be interesting :)

It's a shame I can't sell em on SR!

How much would you be doing them for originally when you start selling them? quite cheap to start because you wont be very skilled at the beginning. (no offense)
What about ammo?
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: PerPETualMOtion on May 15, 2013, 01:17 pm
So my mate said I can print the gun out on his printer next time I see him, that'll be interesting :)

It's a shame I can't sell em on SR!

How much would you be doing them for originally when you start selling them? quite cheap to start because you wont be very skilled at the beginning. (no offense)
What about ammo?

Ammo cannot be 3D printed. Reloading is the better option. We are about 20 years from a safe 3D ammo printer. The metal casing eliminates the possibility of plastic melting/fowling the firing mechanism and barrel. Also, there is the issue of the primer charge, so unless you are printing a flintlock, ammo should be left to military-grade manufacturers.
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 15, 2013, 02:51 pm
So my mate said I can print the gun out on his printer next time I see him, that'll be interesting :)

It's a shame I can't sell em on SR!

He doesn't own the proper high quality printer.  You need a very expensive printer for this so be safe.  Firing a gun printed on a cheap (less than 10k) printer is flat out dangerous.  Firing a .380 out of plastic printed on a cheap consumer printer?  Might as well use +p ammunition and try to blow your fingers off.  Good luck.
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: HeatFireFlame on May 15, 2013, 04:28 pm
So my mate said I can print the gun out on his printer next time I see him, that'll be interesting :)

It's a shame I can't sell em on SR!

He doesn't own the proper high quality printer.  You need a very expensive printer for this so be safe.  Firing a gun printed on a cheap (less than 10k) printer is flat out dangerous.  Firing a .380 out of plastic printed on a cheap consumer printer?  Might as well use +p ammunition and try to blow your fingers off.  Good luck.

I agree. However i wouldn't advise going for a gun that packs as much of a punch as a .380 from a printed gun. Maybe try some smaller rounds like a .22 or a 9mm to start.
but aye you would need at least a 10k printer,
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 15, 2013, 04:41 pm
So my mate said I can print the gun out on his printer next time I see him, that'll be interesting :)

It's a shame I can't sell em on SR!

He doesn't own the proper high quality printer.  You need a very expensive printer for this so be safe.  Firing a gun printed on a cheap (less than 10k) printer is flat out dangerous.  Firing a .380 out of plastic printed on a cheap consumer printer?  Might as well use +p ammunition and try to blow your fingers off.  Good luck.

I agree. However i wouldn't advise going for a gun that packs as much of a punch as a .380 from a printed gun. Maybe try some smaller rounds like a .22 or a 9mm to start.
but aye you would need at least a 10k printer,

The only fully printed gun created so far is a .380 hahaha

inb4 people hurt themselves.
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: HeatFireFlame on May 15, 2013, 05:22 pm
So my mate said I can print the gun out on his printer next time I see him, that'll be interesting :)

It's a shame I can't sell em on SR!

He doesn't own the proper high quality printer.  You need a very expensive printer for this so be safe.  Firing a gun printed on a cheap (less than 10k) printer is flat out dangerous.  Firing a .380 out of plastic printed on a cheap consumer printer?  Might as well use +p ammunition and try to blow your fingers off.  Good luck.

I agree. However i wouldn't advise going for a gun that packs as much of a punch as a .380 from a printed gun. Maybe try some smaller rounds like a .22 or a 9mm to start.
but aye you would need at least a 10k printer,

The only fully printed gun created so far is a .380 hahaha

inb4 people hurt themselves.

Lol throwing themselves in at the deep net  ehh. ohh well best of luck to them
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: AmnesiaBlackout on May 16, 2013, 01:40 pm
I was talking to him about it the other day (before I saw these replies), he doesn't think his printer will be accurate enough either. It's a shame I was looking forward to 3D printing something :(
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: pakchoi23 on May 16, 2013, 08:41 pm
I think it's cool. I'm not really into guns but I am into the belief that the government is foolish to try and remove information that is already well embedded in the minds of the citizens. Trying to ban printed guns/gun files is like trying to ban/remove king size rizlas. Many people already know how to jury rig a king skin from smaller smoking papers. The knowledge of skinning up is passed on from person to person and has been in the collective minds of society for many years now.

People have been making and firing guns for 100s of years. Nothing's going to stop them now.

It's not like you can't already make a gun out of wood, or bits of old metal pipe and so on.

Sorry for the shit rolling paper analogy.... I'm a bit boxed just now *rolls eyes*
Title: Re: 3D printing and guns?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 20, 2013, 01:49 pm
I think it's cool. I'm not really into guns but I am into the belief that the government is foolish to try and remove information that is already well embedded in the minds of the citizens. Trying to ban printed guns/gun files is like trying to ban/remove king size rizlas. Many people already know how to jury rig a king skin from smaller smoking papers. The knowledge of skinning up is passed on from person to person and has been in the collective minds of society for many years now.

People have been making and firing guns for 100s of years. Nothing's going to stop them now.

It's not like you can't already make a gun out of wood, or bits of old metal pipe and so on.

Sorry for the shit rolling paper analogy.... I'm a bit boxed just now *rolls eyes*

The analogy cracked me up.  Ban all rice paper!