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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: bananatinpots on February 26, 2012, 04:45 pm
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Hi, I am new to SR and so I don´t have much of a clue. I´ve been looking around the site and vendors appear to be from the U.S., Canada, NL and Spain. I haven´t seen anyone from S. America (so far...)
Anyways I live in Ecuador, we are a known transshipment point for Colombian and Peruvian cocaine... it´s very cheap here ($5-10 a gram on the streets / under $1000 a kilo) mushrooms grow all year round and DMT containing roots/plants are legal for the reason that they are part of an indigenous ayahuasca culture. We also have really cheap weed but you don´t want our dirty stuff if your used to smoking hydroponic/skunk quality.
So all of this means that any packages coming from my country would likely be very suspicious.... I could send a couple of test packages to some friends in Europe to see if they got through but even so I wonder if buyers would even consider receiving a letter from a country so close to the points of production.
Stupid Q: Does extracted DMT have a smell? What about sending root barks, do dogs look for that shit?
I stick my hand up and say I know very little, please don´t shoot it down just because I am a n00b.
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An additional speculation: Many of my countrymen live in Spain... Is is more likely to be safe sending to Spain since we have many businesses in both countries as well as families split between our two countries.
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I think regular letters would make it through but anything bigger is almost imposible because in whole europe you have to pick it up from a customs agent?
But if you are thinking bigger, something like sending a car in a container with coke in the tires or something that could make it ti the port , Amsterdam, spain or Hamburg, well thats how the big guys do it :D haha
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I don't have any info on seizure rates between South America and US, Europe, etc, but I think you're right regarding mail between countries that have closer relations. This probably goes for Brazil and Portugal as well, as well as Suriname and the Netherlands. The mail would blend in easier in other mail going between those countries.
There are similar countries which are notorious for drugs. Take the Netherlands: I believe that there are not a lot of problems with mail coming from the Netherlands going to the US for instance, even though the Netherlands is also a major drug producing and trafficking country.
I would just test it and see how it goes, if you find people willing to receive it.
Also, I'd keep in mind that you're not going to make a lot of friends if you're selling cocaine relatively cheap. I'd imagine many guys on SR would get problems, but maybe even cartels wouldn't like it... Dunno how bad that really is. On the other hand, you could match the current prices and make huge profits ;).
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Sounds very interesting. You could cut the shit out of the vendors around here at those prices, or make a ton of money on each gram, but I think you'd have good business either way, as long as the packages were small enough to make it through customs.
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Since I have no experience in this I am going to send a gram to a friend to see if it can get through the postal system, assuming it does (I am skeptical about my own local postage system - there have been reports of coke seized in the mail going out of the country before, though usually more than 100g) then I will purchase a sellers account on SR and offer some cheap sample grams to see if people like the stuff and to get some rating.
I wouldn't like to piss off all the coke dealers out there but the prices quoted seem very high even for top quality purity and I imagine that your domestic suppliers could still charge a premium because of the lower risk involved, as for the cartels... well I understand that some tonnes of cocaine are consumed every week and a few cheap grams on an anonymous, relatively unknown website shouldn't make them worry - I am not going to be offering gs for much less than the street prices in the U.S.
I will report back in a few weeks as to how my experiment goes... any advice is appreciated and a big thank you to all who have something to contribute.
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From what I've read while researching receiving drugs by mail, it's usually the packages that are checked. There are just too many letters sent all the time and the quantities of the drugs in those letters are too small to be really worth to law enforcement.
However, I'd still recommend checking out some ways of concealing it at least a bit. From what I've read in the forums (I'm no seller, so don't have that much insight): Make sure that it looks as regular as possible (like a business letter); seal the stuff by vacuum sealing (basically sealing it airtight in plastic); make sure it doesn't lead back to you (no finger prints, not posted close to your operation, no other identifying stuff). There's probably more you can think of / find in the forums.
One of the things I really hope to see more on SR is cheap global access to the regional drugs (like cocaine from several South American countries and MDMA from Holland). The Internet already made a worldwide market place for many products, let's add drugs to it ;). Good luck with your plans and I'll be interested in how it goes.
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Hi, I am new to SR and so I don´t have much of a clue. I´ve been looking around the site and vendors appear to be from the U.S., Canada, NL and Spain. I haven´t seen anyone from S. America (so far...)
Anyways I live in Ecuador, we are a known transshipment point for Colombian and Peruvian cocaine... it´s very cheap here ($5-10 a gram on the streets / under $1000 a kilo) mushrooms grow all year round and DMT containing roots/plants are legal for the reason that they are part of an indigenous ayahuasca culture. We also have really cheap weed but you don´t want our dirty stuff if your used to smoking hydroponic/skunk quality.
So all of this means that any packages coming from my country would likely be very suspicious.... I could send a couple of test packages to some friends in Europe to see if they got through but even so I wonder if buyers would even consider receiving a letter from a country so close to the points of production.
Stupid Q: Does extracted DMT have a smell? What about sending root barks, do dogs look for that shit?
I stick my hand up and say I know very little, please don´t shoot it down just because I am a n00b.
hi mate
if your legit . then you got a good customer on me. i will buy that C in bulk!!!
and if you got a full prove method to ship things to eu damn , we going to be ritch ;)
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Just a small bump on this topic, as TS might be interested: I just received a letter with some interesting contents from South America. I can't tell you the country, as the vendor keeps it a secret as well, but I don't believe it's a country that's very actively involved in the cocaine industry (like Colombia or Peru). Anyhow, it came through safe and sound in just over a week.
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Stupid Q: Does extracted DMT have a smell? What about sending root barks, do dogs look for that shit?
- parcels will still be opened in eu if they don't know what the contents are exactly, or scanning has revealed an item they not sure about.
- if its a plant or bark, with experience they would have a good idea whether its banned or not, don't know to what lengths they go to do further
tests to determine actual plant species...?! -cos as we know there are millions/billions whatever plants and which are used to manufacture / or
are banned...many and most not..
- seen some television footage of customs depts going about their work..
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Stupid Q: Does extracted DMT have a smell? What about sending root barks, do dogs look for that shit?
Does it have a smell? Yes, of course. Better question: Is it a smell that dogs are trained to detect? Highly doubtful. Have never had problems sending DMT in mail, bringing on planes, and even once having my car searched w/dog, but was not detected.
Sending bark/plant materials in the mail: I have received large shipments of B. caapi and P. viridis (up to 20kg at a time) many times both to the US and Europe. The best way to do this would be to obtain an 'export permit' from the local government and ship fully declared as this will lessen customs problems. In most countries these herbs are not regulated (France being an exception, possibly others) and one can ship and receive with no problems as long as they are properly labeled and have permit from originating country. As TWM mentioned, packages to the EU will be opened if they are not properly labeled which could cause headaches.
Other more sensitive herbs (coca for example) you can ship easily as well at least in smaller amounts, but of course can not declare it as such since it is illegal in most recieving countries... I have shipped coca leaves home from South America, simply labeled as 'tea' and it arrived fine.
If you do decide to ship plants materials, I for one would be interested in what kind of prices you could offer.
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...some good tips from tagore, hopefully "leaves" are packed flat enough...although don't forget everything is a chance...
;)
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You could vacuum pack the coke, and then place it into this tree bark or whatever it is ? and declare it to customs as the tree bark, shouldn't have problems.... pm me if u wanna test something out to the uk :P
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...some good tips from tagore, hopefully "leaves" are packed flat enough...although don't forget everything is a chance...
;)
Yea, that's really some great advice from Tagore up there. I think the problem is that people may trust people from South America less. I've dealt with two vendors from SA so far, and both of them hassled me around, taking over 2 months to get my product to me. They blamed the postal system, but I call bull shit. I certainly hope you would be more professional than that.
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interested in coca for sure.
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I get the impression some people might want actual coca leaves, I've got to check out the prices on that but it's sold openly in my local food market and I think it's fairly cheap when it's just leaves, I can also get it packaged in tea bags... but yeah it is going to be illegal where I send it.
As for dealing with people in SA, yes locals are generally unreliable, I have had enough experience employing locals to know that you can't find reliable people easily. However to be completely racist I am a tall white European and try to conduct myself in a better manner, I can't promise all packages will get through but I will offer 100% refunds and free reshipping and after establishing a small and reliable customer base I plan to go stealth and I probably won't deal with any new customers unless they get a recommendation.
The postal service here used to be shit but it's really upped it's game recently.
Last week around 40kgs were found in paint shipped to Italy by TNT by some diplomats.... I have yet to find out how likely packages are to be seized leaving the country but I am fairly certain that small (up to 7g) shipments shouldn't provide any hassle
Tagore, thanks for the advice, it will be remembered.
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I wouldn't mind getting my hands on some coca seeds if you can find them. I doubt seeds of anything would attract much attention.
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I'd totally buy some of those coca leaves from you. =]
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i would be interested in DMT containing plants if your shipping methods prove to be succsessful
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I would definitely also be very interested in some high guality stuff, if it could only get here safe enough.(EU) and would definitely be interested in some coca seeds and mimosa hostilis seeds.
looking forward to see what will happen here :)
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bananatinpots count me in. id buy good stuff from South America. im from the US. at least a test buy.
ive never bought coke from South America but i have gotten benzos(Peru)
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as I understand it, DMT containing plants are not illegal, unless it can be proven that they are intended specifically for extraction. I have ordered 1kg of chacruna from peru without issue, but that was through an established company which provided customs paperwork.