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Market => Product offers => Topic started by: TrippingWithScience on April 21, 2013, 02:48 am
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I noticed that no one is selling liquid mushrooms (extracted psilocybin) on the SR. I think that's a shame, because of all the ways of taking mushrooms, liquid form is by far the best I've tried. No (or minimal) tummyaches, and if you're on a near-empty or empty stomach, you'll be feeling the effects within about 10 minutes. Plus as you start to come down, you can choose to re-up... and 10 minutes later you're back heading toward another peak.
By extracting the psilocybin, you get rid of the plant solids that cause stomach aches, and since your digestive system doesn't have to work to break down the fungus to get to the goodies, it hits you faster - it's a much better way of controlling your trip.
I've personally re-upped several times - getting a 10 hour trip, despite feeling like I'd only taken 2 or so grams.
I can start making enough to sell if there's a demand - so here are the questions I have:
1) Have you ever heard of (or tried) liquid mushrooms?
2) Would you be willing to buy some if I offered them?
(and if yes) 3) what country do you live in?
Price: I can start with a $20 trip. That would be the psilocybin from about 2 grams (or 1/16oz) of dried shrooms - although keep in mind that the liquid will hit you a bit stronger than if you digested the whole plant. Each dose comes in its own little vial, so the pricing will probably be:
$20 for one vial
$18 ea. for 5 vials
$15 ea. for 10 vials
Right now that's a little more expensive per trip than the average shroom vendor - but not by too much. (considering the process of extraction takes over 3 weeks, I think it's fair to charge a tad more for my time - and also for a superior product )
If I get a few replies to this post, I'll make a batch in the next month, and mail out some samples.
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This sounds amazing and I would love to try this out, hopefully get some samples, I can also post a review if needed.
1) I have not tried it, but love psychedelics, and this liquid shrooms sounds sweet!
2) Yes, instantly if the sample trip works out :)
3) USA
Love the idea of liquid instead of eating it, count me in on the samples!
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If your product is of high quality, I think there would be decent interest here as it's something fairly novel to many people.
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showing interest ;)
1) yes, heard of/considered making.
2) yes!
3) USA
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What are the chances of you just sending people 4-AcO-DMT in ethanol as "liquid mushrooms"?
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What are the chances of you just sending people 4-AcO-DMT in ethanol as "liquid mushrooms"?
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Chances exist, but if you're an experienced shroom tripper, you will notice the differences. At least I could tell, from my experience with both. And if anyone with reputation leaves a review saying "this is not psilocybin but psilacetin", the guy is not gonna sell that much.
OP,
1) Yes, liquid psilocybin extract, used in reasearch studies led by Charles Grob.
2) Yes, and guess what, I'm up for a sample.
3) Western Europe.
One question, TrippingwithScience, what colour is the extract ?
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sounds very interesting, but a little bit too expensive in my eyes :)
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1) nope but I'm loving the description, I hate the taste of mushrooms
2) yep
3) uk
when you talk about a vial, are you talking about something with a lid or are you using it as shorthand for something like a capsule?
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What are the chances of you just sending people 4-AcO-DMT in ethanol as "liquid mushrooms"?
Haha, None. I use an ethanol alcohol extraction process from dried and ground up mushroom bodies. The final extract is about 65% alcohol, the rest is water, psilocybin, and a few other plant alkaloids that are alcohol-soluble. If you pour it out into a cup and take a strong whiff, it smells like a strong shot with a mushroomy aroma. And if you've ever eaten mushrooms, you'll recognize that smell even if it's faint. :)
One question, TrippingwithScience, what colour is the extract ?
It's a clear, yellow-tinted liquid. It smells like alcohol and mushrooms.
1) nope but I'm loving the description, I hate the taste of mushrooms
2) yep
3) uk
when you talk about a vial, are you talking about something with a lid or are you using it as shorthand for something like a capsule?
Unfortunately, there's still a taste of the mushrooms. The good news is that yes, I do mean a vial. I evaporate the solution down until it's around 9mg of psilocybin per 8ml vial (the psiolocybin that's in 2 grams of dried shrooms)
8ml is not a lot of liquid - your standard US shotglass is around 45ml - so you can dump the vial into a shotglass, and fill the rest up with orange juice or some other, tastier drink, and take your mushroom shot.
And as I mentioned in the OP, you can start feeling it within about 5-15 minutes. Your body needs to covert the stable psilocybin molecule into the seratonin-like psilocin molecule so your brain can have fun with it. There are two ways for your body to do this: 1) a strong acid (stomach acid is mostly HCL) or 2) the hepatic system in your liver. When you don't have any of the hard-to-digest mushroom plant matter in your stomach, it's much easier for the stomach acid to break down the psilocybin. If you take this liquid on an empty or near-empty stomach (2-3 hours since eating) you will start to feel a little shroomy after 10 minutes. Most of the psilocybin will still be processed by the liver, so you can expect to have your normal build up, peak, and come down - it will just start sooner.
It's really awesome. :D
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It's really awesome. :D
/me gets in the queue
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I'd love a little sample :) I'm in the UK, never really heard of liquid shrooms but would be very interested.
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This would be nice to try out. If you can, count me in for a sample and I would write a trip report.
Even without the sample, I would still be interested in this.
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I'm curious.
I've read about some theoretical extractions before but have never known anyone to actually do it.
Ingested shrooms just about every other way imaginable, and always thought this would be the ideal way :)
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I've read about some theoretical extractions before but have never known anyone to actually do it.
Yes, I've read those same theoretical extractions. :) As long as you don't follow the ones that tell you to heat/boil the alcohol slurry, (you'll loose a lot of the goodies that way) you will come out on top. Depending on the equipment and your patience, you can extract 50% of the psilocybin if you really botch the job, or upwards of 95% of it if you are meticulous and follow the recipe. I like to think that I've perfected the process over the years.
Ingested shrooms just about every other way imaginable, and always thought this would be the ideal way :)
I started growing mushrooms for personal use years ago. I've had fresh ones in omlettes, eaten the rye berry cakes they grew from as well as making them into chocolates or powdered and packed in capsules. I can say that the alcohol extraction is by far the hardest/most time consuming way to prepare them... but yes... it's the best way I've ever tried.
When I have friends over for a mushroom party, people tend to go through these phases:
1) Never heard of liquid. Hesitant to try a 'new' hallucinogenic.
2) Ok, I'm interested enough. I'll try it once.
3) This is AWESOME. I want to tell everyone about this.
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dude this sounds great ......
i wish u can make 1 vial that contains 50 hits or 100 hits like acud vials.... it would be a bomb to have a 2gram mushroom in 1drop hahaha .... am a reseller and would love to buy bulk from you if u consider the above .... i love the idea .... what do think??
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Im in, gotta try these.
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dude this sounds great ......
i wish u can make 1 vial that contains 50 hits or 100 hits like acud vials.... it would be a bomb to have a 2gram mushroom in 1drop hahaha .... am a reseller and would love to buy bulk from you if u consider the above .... i love the idea .... what do think??
It's possible to do that - but it wouldn't be ideal. At those concentrations, a lot of the psilocybin will precipitate out in crystals, as well as a few plant sugars and other alcaloids - so the white crystals in the solution would change the potency distribution. So a drop of the pure liquid would be different from a drop that has some of the crystals in it. And evaporating it down to anything near or below ~2grams/1ml will probably result in a thicker syrup... meaning it will be harder to get all of it out. You'd loose some goodies that stick to the vial.
In the past, I've had parties where there are about 10 of us tripping on the liquid, which I kept in a beaker after making it. At the start, I made a note of everyone's weight, and how many ml of shroom liquour they had. Once I was tripping balls, however, my math got harder to do, and I'd be staring at that paper when someone wanted to re-up... and I wanted to give them enough to keep them at the same low to medium trip level for 3 hours.
It turns out that having the doses pre-measured in little vials was way easier. Of course, if I wasn't tripping with them, then it's a lot easier. But where's the fun in that? haha
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Yes, I've read those same theoretical extractions. :) As long as you don't follow the ones that tell you to heat/boil the alcohol slurry, (you'll loose a lot of the goodies that way) you will come out on top. Depending on the equipment and your patience, you can extract 50% of the psilocybin if you really botch the job, or upwards of 95% of it if you are meticulous and follow the recipe. I like to think that I've perfected the process over the years.
Very cool. I'm not quite at a mental capacity, or understanding to take 2 steps into the process - which is why this got my interest immediately. The things I was reading were talking about precipitating psilocybin into a crystal format that I believe would be vaporized similar to DMT (it's been a while since I read this stuff).
You mentioned below in your other reply about larger vials precipitating into crystal - do you have any experience with using just the crystal in a non liquid form? Or even know if something like vaporizing the crystal would have a any effect (perhaps shorter duration but more profound/visual aspect?)
Just really curious is all :)
I grew my own B+, Koh Samui, Tapalpa a few years ago and tried blending freshies with OJ and while it tasted disgusting, the trip was quick to start and very enjoyable. Done chocolates, caps, too but that's quite a bit of work for basically getting no further benefit than masking the taste. Currently been lemon teking to maximize my trips but always looking for a better way / more control over doses.
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How long does the trip last in liquid form?
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dude the only thing that worries me is the stealth of mailing these vials .... did u figure out how will u mail these vials without them being detected?? especially if i want to order like 50 hits??
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Why would u think a vial is hard to mail, when u can get 1kg methylone or some other shit? rofl.
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bcz i want to order at least 50 drops and if each drop is in one vial that is 50 vials....
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Very interesting!
I liked to think that I tried everything with shrooms (even snorting them once - and then never again), but I haven't heard of liquid shrooms...
It does sound very intersting.
I'd love to try this out (sample or paid for, doesn't matter).
Redosing sounds very nice also!
Sending vials is a piece of cake, you just need to find a decent "context"...shouldn't be to hard to find.
If you're looking for samplers I suggest you check the list of "Reliable Reviewers" (see my signature). I personally don't sample mushrooms, but for this one I'd be willing to make an exception.
Best of luck to you and do keep us posted!
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I saw something about this on shroomery some time ago ..
I am interested..
In the USA
I do think it is priced high for one trip.. I can get LSD-25 cheaper... :/
Still very interested..
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Sounds very interesting
In the USA also
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I did some re-reading up on this.. and I am VERY interested in trying out your product to see if it lives up to your information If it as good as you state I would have quite the market for it here, I think..
I toss my hat and my partners hat into the ring for samples when you get to that point.. I offer VERY detailed trip reports BTW. If you would like a shorter one I can do that too.. LOL..
I think if you have great reviews this could be a great seller here on the road.. Because it is something "new" for most people having a strong review thread will be KEY for sales.
I have some other great recipes if you ever want some :) Just PM me..