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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Psychedelic Oatmeal on February 21, 2013, 04:58 am

Title: Buying RCs off of the Clearnet
Post by: Psychedelic Oatmeal on February 21, 2013, 04:58 am
Anyone have any experience doing this? Looking for Psychs such as 25i, 4-AcO-DMT and such. While the road is great, you can get away with buying those on clearnet without having to go through the trouble of getting BTC. However, I can't seem to find any proper vendors, and when I do, they don't ship to the US.
Title: Re: Buying RCs off of the Clearnet
Post by: Ron Swanson on February 21, 2013, 05:15 am
those sites are so sketchy you'll most likely get your card skimmed. is it skimming when it's online? i don't know but i wouldn't advise it. the amount of hassle with your banks fraud department, them freezing your accounts and stuff. imo it's not worth it and you know who's got the best on the road. if you must use clearnet then use a credit card rather than debit if possible as they offer more fraud protection and it's not your money they will steal
Title: Re: Buying RCs off of the Clearnet
Post by: princeblack49 on February 22, 2013, 07:05 am
Funny, I came to SR because I wanted 4HO-MET AND SR offers anonymity the RC sites on the clearnet cannot offer. Op Webtryp and the Farmers Market bust both had some unencrypted trialst Properly using SR their is no VISA trail to my door or unencrypted communication their for any eye. It meant I had to learn PGP and how to acquire BTC. Even funnier is that during this whole process I have gotten more interested in internet security, privacy and the merits of intense self governance. Lots of knowledge to acquire. Oh yeah, I also get user reviewed products and services, that's pretty bad ass. :) :)
Title: Re: Buying RCs off of the Clearnet
Post by: oldcactushand on February 22, 2013, 12:22 pm
I recently bought some nbome from clearnet. Seems like you basically have to do your research on the vendors in much the same way you would here. As far as I understand, nbome family is considered an analogue of 2c family in the USA, and therefore the european vendors (at least the one I bought from) are generally unwilling to send it there. Many people on a forum I was reading were insistent that being caught with nbome would be treated exactly the same by LE as being caught with LSD. Basically, the law is murky, and the cops are treating like it's illegal.

It's several more times expensive on the clearnet as well, and there is much less of a community gathering anecdotal data on strength, quality of service etc. On top of that, if you do find someone to send it to you, the packaging probably won't be as stealthy as an SR vendor, just through lack of experience if nothing else.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Buying RCs off of the Clearnet
Post by: This Is Serious Mum on February 24, 2013, 08:13 pm


A number of years ago I had very good results with products from China.

Id start small, pay up front to establish trust, then 50% upfront and 50% upon delivery for orders afterwards.

Title: Re: Buying RCs off of the Clearnet
Post by: valakki on February 24, 2013, 10:00 pm
i have experience with clearnet vendors... (sadly none i used ships to US and most of them got shut down since i used them)
lots of fake sites out there. be careful. look for one that allows customer reviews.
 but if its illegal in your country you really shouldn't mess with it on clearnet.
Title: Re: Buying RCs off of the Clearnet
Post by: chil on February 24, 2013, 10:42 pm
There are a few reliable RCs websites out there, from which many vendors on SR get their supply I guess.

If I can buy the RCs I want on the clearnet, I go for it, since it's a lot cheaper. Prices on SR for currently legal RCs are like 10 to 50 times more expensive.

safeorscam.com is the website that lets you know if such and such website is safe, or a scam.
Title: Re: Buying RCs off of the Clearnet
Post by: whowhatwhere on February 25, 2013, 12:44 am
Anyone have any experience doing this? Looking for Psychs such as 25i, 4-AcO-DMT and such. While the road is great, you can get away with buying those on clearnet without having to go through the trouble of getting BTC. However, I can't seem to find any proper vendors, and when I do, they don't ship to the US.
While I know MXE isn't on your list, that is the first RC I tried from SR before I was able to find it easier on legit RC clearnet websites.  I've had nothing but success with a few of them, Motion Research Co. was my favorite but they got infiltrated by LEO so they shut down but Wilk's Research was next for me (www.wilksresearch.com).  I just checked and they're currently out of all RC's, they have all sorts of lab equipment but you'll need a free account to see the RC's when they restock.  Chemical Store Guru (www.chemicalstoreguru.com) is another legit one that has a revolving door of different RC's, right now they have etizolam but just sold out of MXE.  Cosmic Wholesale (www.cosmicwholesale.com) has a plethora of different RC's and other products but you can't check anything out until you sign up for an account and get approved.  Your best bet is to go to a forum like legalhighguides.com and ask around there or check out the Swap Meet area, there are many vendors you can buy basically any legal RC you can think of.  Hope this info helps.

There are a few reliable RCs websites out there, from which many vendors on SR get their supply I guess.

If I can buy the RCs I want on the clearnet, I go for it, since it's a lot cheaper. Prices on SR for currently legal RCs are like 10 to 50 times more expensive.

safeorscam.com is the website that lets you know if such and such website is safe, or a scam.

I second SoS, that site is invaluable. 
Title: Re: Buying RCs off of the Clearnet
Post by: princeblack49 on March 25, 2013, 10:57 pm
There are a few reliable RCs websites out there, from which many vendors on SR get their supply I guess.

If I can buy the RCs I want on the clearnet, I go for it, since it's a lot cheaper. Prices on SR for currently legal RCs are like 10 to 50 times more expensive.

safeorscam.com is the website that lets you know if such and such website is safe, or a scam.

I looked at some of the sites listed. Do they require real personal info? The tax id thing is a bit risky.
Title: Re: Buying RCs off of the Clearnet
Post by: snark on March 25, 2013, 11:21 pm
Always interested in reliable Canadian vendors, haven't been able to find any good ones recently.
Title: Re: Buying RCs off of the Clearnet
Post by: Chaosforpeace on March 26, 2013, 01:26 am
I remember back when am2201 wasn't banned yet. I bought so much of that shit knowing it would be made illegal. Cashed in on that big within the last year.