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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: SpeedCrunch on April 13, 2013, 10:46 pm
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Hey SR community
Not sure if this is exactly the right place to post this but I need some advice.
I Bought 1g of Pure Diazepam valium Powder from fredthebaker. Just got it today put it through a MMC V&R Reagent testing and it failed.
I ran the test twice just to make sure as well as testing a known good Diazepam tablet (That came back positive) just to make sure my testing kits havent gone off.
So am not to sure what this powder is I had a single Marquis test available and ran that and got a strange red/brown color.
[Failed Reagent test]
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/nsi.JPG
[Marquis Test]
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/nsd.JPG
This is what a MMC V&R test should look like when testing real Diazepam. I tested a tablet of zepose 10 Diazepam.
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/nst.JPG
I haven't finalized yet any advice on what I should do? iv never had a Reagent test fail when buying goods on SR. Also what do you think this powder could be from the Marquis Test?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Kind regards
SpeedCrunch
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I guess you could message fredthebaker and tell him what's up. If he refuses to refund you in resolve send the pictures and the situation to staff .
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Thanks for sharing this, I was planning to put in an order with fredthebaker.
I think I will hold off until this has been resolved.
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Right after sending a few messages back and forth and showing the pictures to fredthebaker I was given a refund.
Although it seems fredthebaker is still under the opinion that the powder is diazepam based solely on the fact that he/she has sold over 500 grams of it with no complaints and still has the listing up.
I did some research on the Marquis test and it seems that the red/orange color that I got seems to indicate the presence of some type of Amphetamine.
I find it disturbing that a vendor is selling an unknown white powder labeled as Diazepam that fails reagent testing.
Yes I got a refund and yes I am happy with that but the main question is "What is this white powder?"
I get paid in a few days so am going to order the "EZ Test Complete kit" it contains Marquis, Mandelin, Mecke Simon's and Robadope Reagents. Hopefully it should give me a good indication of what this white powder is.
When I get the test kit I will report back my findings.
Stay safe people and remember always Reagent test your goods.
Kind regards
SpeedCrunch
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Umm. Recently placed the same order and received the same powder - my reagent kits aren't here yet!
Amphetamines?? - After trying it I would go with "unknown white powder"
Thanks for this post, will have to pm fred as well.
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Could it possibly some kind of research chemical analogue/precursor?
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Umm. Recently placed the same order and received the same powder - my reagent kits aren't here yet!
Amphetamines?? - After trying it I would go with "unknown white powder"
Thanks for this post, will have to pm fred as well.
Yeah "unknown white powder" is definitely the right word. The Marquis Test came back a red/orange/ brown? type color.
Looking at the Marquis color chart it says Speed,Meth,Amphetamines so it could be anything related to that but it's definitely not diazepam.
I wont know for sure what it is till I get the complete testing kit. It cost 40£ :/ But am determined to find out what's in this powder.
So you tried the powder? did it have any effects at all or was it just bunk?
Could it possibly some kind of research chemical analogue/precursor?
That could be hopefully I will find out when I get the EZ Test Complete kit.
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It wasn't bunk - it tasted *like valium* but it did give me a "synth'd" feeling, if you know what i mean?
I found myself only dosing it once or twice since my order. I've just pm'd fred and received a very cold reply. It seems he's going to continue selling it as "pure diazepam powder". ::)
Could it possibly some kind of research chemical analogue/precursor?
Unfortunately it does seem like it could.
Please do update when you receive your full kit speedcrunch and thanks again for the heads up!
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Phenezepam? Dirt cheap long acting benzo. The kits probably dont test for that though. Also have never (knowingly) tried it so im not sure if the effects would be passable for diazepam.
I guess it would also need to be cut with something else to prevent a 20mg dose from killing you.
I am unfamiliar with the activity/chemistry of diazepam precursors.
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Fred the baker is just a stupid fuckoff.
A lot of the pictures of his pills(Zopiclone, Zepose) look like oval pills but in reality they are circular. So it just look likes he sells Indian replica's with not the right amount of active ingredients.
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Yeah he is one of the more shady veteran sellers. There have been many complaints about him over the last 2 years and he went through some phases where his rating kept dropping pretty badly.
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Fred the baker is just a stupid fuckoff.
A lot of the pictures of his pills(Zopiclone, Zepose) look like oval pills but in reality they are circular. So it just look likes he sells Indian replica's with not the right amount of active ingredients.
Yeah the more I look into it and the more people I talk to it just keeps getting more and more dodgy.
As soon as I get my test kit's in and run a full series of reagent tests on this “unknown white powder” am going to post the results and send a PM to SR Support staff to see about getting the listings pulled.
It's just unbelievable that people are buying this powder and consuming it without reagent testing it.
Because from my perspective I got an unknown white powder with an unknown safety profile that fails V&R(diazepam) testing and has an unknown LD50(Median lethal dose).
This stuff could be causing brain damage or even cancer we just don't know and yet fredthebaker still insists on selling it by the gram as Pure Diazepam Powder it's just insane :(
You would think a responsible vendor would be concerned about a failed reagent test on one of his or her products and get some test kits of there own and audit his/her own product.
Right am going to stop ranting now just thinking about this just makes me angry.
I just hope no one gets hurt from using this powder.
P.S I should have my testing kits in 3-4 days keep an eye on this thread I will be posting pictures of all the Reagent test results.
Stay safe
SpeedCrunch
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It's just unbelievable that people are buying this powder and consuming it without reagent testing it.
I suppose poeple go by positive feedback left by others, and perhaps this powder does what diazepam does to a great degree, regardless of its composition. This would result in little complaints as very few people analyze the product.
I doubt it is some odd reseach chemical though, perhaps just another benzodiazpine like substance, maybe etizolam that doesn't test positive as a benzo on many tests because it is structurally different but functionally comparable?
If you actually want to know what this powder does contain it would require gc/ms analysis to determine that. And even with that it can be hard to find the structure if you have no idea of what it could be composed off.
Have you tried any of the product yourself? It'd be interesting if it has effects comparable to proper diazepam.
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Very interested to see where this leads! I myself just got ripped by a new MDMA vendor called UNCLESAMSSTASH who claims the people that comment on the forums are "stupid kids that dont know how to read a Marquis" When i showed him pics of his "high content MDMA" pressies turning yellow and brown after being exposed to the reagent....at least you got your refund!
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Well him saying he has had no complaints is plain bullshit- I took mine to resolution for 50% (I felt like I should be due 100%, but thought I'd have a better chance of getting 50% than having a long drawn out argument over it) It did have a vague valium type effect, but only after taking about a quarter gram in one go- started off trying 20 mg but felt nothing. He is a definite scammer, the only good thing I can say is that I got my 50% with no arguments, but he is selling something he knows to be dodgy and not pure, there seem to be more and more scumbags appearing on here in the last few months.
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It's just unbelievable that people are buying this powder and consuming it without reagent testing it.
I suppose poeple go by positive feedback left by others, and perhaps this powder does what diazepam does to a great degree, regardless of its composition. This would result in little complaints as very few people analyze the product.
I doubt it is some odd reseach chemical though, perhaps just another benzodiazpine like substance, maybe etizolam that doesn't test positive as a benzo on many tests because it is structurally different but functionally comparable?
If you actually want to know what this powder does contain it would require gc/ms analysis to determine that. And even with that it can be hard to find the structure if you have no idea of what it could be composed off.
Have you tried any of the product yourself? It'd be interesting if it has effects comparable to proper diazepam.
Have I tried the product.........Considering the unknown safety profile and potential toxicity.. no I have not tried the powder and I don't intend to am keeping the powder solely for the purpose of reagent testing and identification.
If I don't know what's in it it's not going into my body.
Very interested to see where this leads! I myself just got ripped by a new MDMA vendor called UNCLESAMSSTASH who claims the people that comment on the forums are "stupid kids that dont know how to read a Marquis" When i showed him pics of his "high content MDMA" pressies turning yellow and brown after being exposed to the reagent....at least you got your refund!
Yeah I read your forum post about that a few days ago. Did you ever get a refund on that or did you FE early?
Well him saying he has had no complaints is plain bullshit- I took mine to resolution for 50% (I felt like I should be due 100%, but thought I'd have a better chance of getting 50% than having a long drawn out argument over it) It did have a vague valium type effect, but only after taking about a quarter gram in one go- started off trying 20 mg but felt nothing. He is a definite scammer, the only good thing I can say is that I got my 50% with no arguments, but he is selling something he knows to be dodgy and not pure, there seem to be more and more scumbags appearing on here in the last few months.
50% refund? Damn that sucks. It took me sending a few messages back and forth to get my refund.
I showed him the Reagent test pics and explained how Reagent test kit's don't lie and how Marquis should not show up as a reb/brown color for diazepam.
I straight out asked for a 100% refund I had to send a few polite but strongly worded messages to fredthebaker before I got my refund.
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+1 for this I was about to make an order of it myself
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Is it an idea to get it lab tested for the sake of harm reduction?
http://www.ecstasydata.org/send_sample.php (clearnet!)
It's 140 buck to do the test, I'll happily pay 10 dollars if we can find an other 13 people who will?
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I guess I ought to get a test kit as I like ketamine - I was initially afraid I would get PCP instead, but it fit the "profile" of K (I didn't cut off my own face nor get into an argument with a brick wall nor any of the other PCP horror stories one hears). Back to the diazepam, if you're brave, most benzo's I've taken (valium, xanax, serax, rohypnol) all have a saccarine-sweet taste. But the chem test would definitely be the better way to test this.
Since I mentioned ketamine, if you like vit. K, MarajuanaIsMyMuse is the vendor to get it from. I've ordered several times from him/her/them, and am expecting some within a few days. MIMM!!! good vendor!
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I'll happily chuck some cash in for a test. I bought a g a month ago, it does exactly what I expected to do but I'm a little alarmed at this.
Maybe fred will show up to explain himself.
Oh it was bitter tasting, like bile.
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Tasting these things is always a bit tricky. The pure substances sometimes have a distinct taste, but any additives could mask or alter that.
Personally i do not find diazepam pills all that bitter, but they often contain a fair amount of lactose binder that could mask the taste a bit. Alprazolam does have a peculair foul bitter taste to it even when you chew down on a complete tablet with all the fillers and binders that are supposed to be in it (there is only 1 mg of alprazolam in a typical 100 to 200 mg tablet, but still).
With pure powders, however, a reagent test should always prove positive if you checked it against a known-good source of diazepam and got the expected reaction with that.
If the test fails, what actually is in the powder is anyones guess. It could be something that has similar effects but does not trigger the reaction. In case of valium this could be something unrelated like diphenhydramide, which also has sedative and anxiolytic properties, at about 5 times the amount you need from valium. If this were the case it wouldn't be all that dangerous a swap, but it would be a financial scam since diphenhydramide is available OTC at pennies for a 50 mg tablet.
The possibilities are endless however, and even if you get a mass spectrum of the actual substance it can be hard to find what it actually is if you have no clue where to start looking.
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It's just unbelievable that people are buying this powder and consuming it without reagent testing it.
I suppose poeple go by positive feedback left by others, and perhaps this powder does what diazepam does to a great degree, regardless of its composition. This would result in little complaints as very few people analyze the product.
I doubt it is some odd reseach chemical though, perhaps just another benzodiazpine like substance, maybe etizolam that doesn't test positive as a benzo on many tests because it is structurally different but functionally comparable?
If you actually want to know what this powder does contain it would require gc/ms analysis to determine that. And even with that it can be hard to find the structure if you have no idea of what it could be composed off.
Have you tried any of the product yourself? It'd be interesting if it has effects comparable to proper diazepam.
Have I tried the product.........Considering the unknown safety profile and potential toxicity.. no I have not tried the powder and I don't intend to am keeping the powder solely for the purpose of reagent testing and identification.
If I don't know what's in it it's not going into my body.
Very interested to see where this leads! I myself just got ripped by a new MDMA vendor called UNCLESAMSSTASH who claims the people that comment on the forums are "stupid kids that dont know how to read a Marquis" When i showed him pics of his "high content MDMA" pressies turning yellow and brown after being exposed to the reagent....at least you got your refund!
Yeah I read your forum post about that a few days ago. Did you ever get a refund on that or did you FE early?
Well him saying he has had no complaints is plain bullshit- I took mine to resolution for 50% (I felt like I should be due 100%, but thought I'd have a better chance of getting 50% than having a long drawn out argument over it) It did have a vague valium type effect, but only after taking about a quarter gram in one go- started off trying 20 mg but felt nothing. He is a definite scammer, the only good thing I can say is that I got my 50% with no arguments, but he is selling something he knows to be dodgy and not pure, there seem to be more and more scumbags appearing on here in the last few months.
50% refund? Damn that sucks. It took me sending a few messages back and forth to get my refund.
I showed him the Reagent test pics and explained how Reagent test kit's don't lie and how Marquis should not show up as a reb/brown color for diazepam.
I straight out asked for a 100% refund I had to send a few polite but strongly worded messages to fredthebaker before I got my refund.
Did you order a complete testing kit?
Message me on SR and i'll do you a cheap listing :)
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Did you order a complete testing kit?
Message me on SR and i'll do you a cheap listing :)
Shit I wish I would have seen that message this morning I just ordered the EZ Test Complete this morning when I woke up. I should be delivered in a day or two. I paid 40£ that's about 61 USD.
Thanks for the offer though mate. What types of kits do you sell? I might be interested in ordering some from you in the future.
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Did you order a complete testing kit?
Message me on SR and i'll do you a cheap listing :)
Shit I wish I would have seen that message this morning I just ordered the EZ Test Complete this morning when I woke up. I should be delivered in a day or two. I paid 40£ that's about 61 USD.
Thanks for the offer though mate. What types of kits do you sell? I might be interested in ordering some from you in the future.
The only kits i have at the moment are the EZ-Test Extreme
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/a11f5d34bf
EZ-Test have withdrawn these now because they're making so much from the one test kits, these are much better value :)
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Did you order a complete testing kit?
Message me on SR and i'll do you a cheap listing :)
Shit I wish I would have seen that message this morning I just ordered the EZ Test Complete this morning when I woke up. I should be delivered in a day or two. I paid 40£ that's about 61 USD.
Thanks for the offer though mate. What types of kits do you sell? I might be interested in ordering some from you in the future.
The only kits i have at the moment are the EZ-Test Extreme
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/a11f5d34bf
EZ-Test have withdrawn these now because they're making so much from the one test kits, these are much better value :)
Yeah it was hard finding a place that sold the EZ Test Complete. The new single test kits are just a joke almost 5£ just for a box with 2 test ampules.
But anyway it looks like I should be getting the test kit Monday or Tuesday.
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Hi,
we have been watching this thread since it was brought to our attention.
we are only going to reply once because we do not want to be brought in to a slagging match.
First off we want to say to Andrimoin you say our tablets from India are knockoffs because the picture looks like oval instead of round.
To you my friend which ever Indian vendor you are the picture gets squashed to fit in the listing and any1 with half a brain can see that they are round.
We buy all our tablets direct from the factory, minimum 10,000 per tablet and we have never had any complaints about our quality of tablets.
We know you are an Indian vendor who bad mouths us at every opportunity to try an boost your sales.
There is lots of room for 100 Indian vendors on Silk Road, people will choose who to buy from.
But unlike other Indian vendors who I will not mention we do not jump on every thread saying buy from us blah blah, we are not that desperate.
To b0lixtrader to say we are 1 of the most shady vendors makes us laugh, we have been apart of the SR community for nearly 18 months and have worked hard to make our name.
We where at 1 stage in the top 1% but we had problems which we where not shy in telling every one and we dropped out for a few months.
When we got back in we where in the top 96% and in less than 6 months we have got back into the top 10%
We never rip any one off or do we try to sell shite or "bunk" products.
When we sold 1kg of ketamine people said it was the best they ever had.
Now we bought 1kg of valium powder off the same suppliers and 90% of the feedback has been excellent.
Some people have complained we will not argue with that but for people to call for us to be banned after all the hard work we put in to bring the people drugs at the cheapest prices we can (we are not greedy we always offer the best deal) is a fucking joke and I am sorry for the bad language.
We do our best, putting our group at risk to LE to import/export all types of drugs to our customers at the best price we can.
You as customers do not realize the amounts of products we have had seized trying to move it from country to country and the price we pay for that.
All you do is jump on us when 1 thing goes wrong.
We still stand buy our diazpeam powder, and we will until it sells out.
And we stand buy every product we sell to be 100% genuine and if you disagree bring us the proof instead of making a fourm name and bad mouthing us hoping that people will buy of you instead of us.
best regards/
Fred
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I was under the impression that a failed reagent test would constitute "proof" but perhaps im mistaken.
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Hi,
who says that he is not a vendor trying to put us down ?
we are not in the top 9% for nothing
regards/
Fred
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OK, I'm willing to settle this.
I'm obviously not another vendor and my only interest in this topic is finding out what I was sold. I'm completely unbiased and genuine, check my post history.
Here is the review I wrote for this product a month ago:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=135662.msg924338#msg924338
As you can see I was impressed by the product, it has the same effect and potency I would expect from pure diazepam.
I still have ~0.2g left so my solution is this, if we can find the best value test kit, me and fred go halves on it and I will upload pictures of the all the tests and settle this once and for all.
I just want to put my mind at rest that I haven't given some my some random chemical, if the test comes back positive I'll put a large order in right away.
Sound good fred?
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Hi,
we have been watching this thread since it was brought to our attention.
we are only going to reply once because we do not want to be brought in to a slagging match.
First off we want to say to Andrimoin you say our tablets from India are knockoffs because the picture looks like oval instead of round.
To you my friend which ever Indian vendor you are the picture gets squashed to fit in the listing and any1 with half a brain can see that they are round.
We buy all our tablets direct from the factory, minimum 10,000 per tablet and we have never had any complaints about our quality of tablets.
We know you are an Indian vendor who bad mouths us at every opportunity to try an boost your sales.
There is lots of room for 100 Indian vendors on Silk Road, people will choose who to buy from.
But unlike other Indian vendors who I will not mention we do not jump on every thread saying buy from us blah blah, we are not that desperate.
To b0lixtrader to say we are 1 of the most shady vendors makes us laugh, we have been apart of the SR community for nearly 18 months and have worked hard to make our name.
We where at 1 stage in the top 1% but we had problems which we where not shy in telling every one and we dropped out for a few months.
When we got back in we where in the top 96% and in less than 6 months we have got back into the top 10%
We never rip any one off or do we try to sell shite or "bunk" products.
When we sold 1kg of ketamine people said it was the best they ever had.
Now we bought 1kg of valium powder off the same suppliers and 90% of the feedback has been excellent.
Some people have complained we will not argue with that but for people to call for us to be banned after all the hard work we put in to bring the people drugs at the cheapest prices we can (we are not greedy we always offer the best deal) is a fucking joke and I am sorry for the bad language.
We do our best, putting our group at risk to LE to import/export all types of drugs to our customers at the best price we can.
You as customers do not realize the amounts of products we have had seized trying to move it from country to country and the price we pay for that.
All you do is jump on us when 1 thing goes wrong.
We still stand buy our diazpeam powder, and we will until it sells out.
And we stand buy every product we sell to be 100% genuine and if you disagree bring us the proof instead of making a fourm name and bad mouthing us hoping that people will buy of you instead of us.
best regards/
Fred
Right well this is one hell of a morning it's 10:11AM here am 5 hours into an LSD trip..was trying to solve a rubiks cube..to be honest I probably shouldn't posting this shit on LSD but whatever,
The only thing am going to say is if anyone wants to order an MMC V&R Presumptive Drug Testing Kit in the UK. Shoot me a PM and I will give you the site that I used.
Am sorry but an MMC V&R Presumptive Drug Testing Kit does not lie. There the same kits used by the United States customs and customs authorities in other countries. So if anyone wants to buy a V&R kit send me a PM or look online.
Right now with that said my EZ Test Complete should be here in a few days. When I get that I will be running this "unknown white powder" against all the reagents as well as running the same test's on a known good diazepam tablet as reference.
And I will be posting all the pictures in hopes of finding out what this stuff is. But to be honest in my opinion the V&R testing kit ultimately tells the truth.
You know what hell why don't you fredzebaker get an V&R testing kit and show us a picture of a positive reaction?
Right it's hard to type on lsd am just getting angry so going to leave it at that. If you want proof just got a V&R kit.
Kind regards
SpeedCrunch
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I don't really know why I'm bothering to reply to this bullshit, but you say you stand by your "diazepam powder". You are just making a fool of yourself and proving to everybody who has tried it what a low down scamming lying swindler you are. It does not work- you are selling it as being pure, but 20mg of real diazepam will have me nicely chilled (I have no tolerance at all). Your "diazepam", I had to take 300mg and even then it mainly made me a bit off balance with little relaxation effects. There are too many people on here complaining about it. Anybody who bothers to research you before putting in an order will see you for what you really are, most people are not stupid, not the people who bother to research first, YOU ARE FOOLING NOBODY!
If you want to regain some respect on here, you should withdraw that crap off your vending list immediately and admit you made a mistake, at least.
Enough said.
Hi,
we have been watching this thread since it was brought to our attention.
we are only going to reply once because we do not want to be brought in to a slagging match.
First off we want to say to Andrimoin you say our tablets from India are knockoffs because the picture looks like oval instead of round.
To you my friend which ever Indian vendor you are the picture gets squashed to fit in the listing and any1 with half a brain can see that they are round.
We buy all our tablets direct from the factory, minimum 10,000 per tablet and we have never had any complaints about our quality of tablets.
We know you are an Indian vendor who bad mouths us at every opportunity to try an boost your sales.
There is lots of room for 100 Indian vendors on Silk Road, people will choose who to buy from.
But unlike other Indian vendors who I will not mention we do not jump on every thread saying buy from us blah blah, we are not that desperate.
To b0lixtrader to say we are 1 of the most shady vendors makes us laugh, we have been apart of the SR community for nearly 18 months and have worked hard to make our name.
We where at 1 stage in the top 1% but we had problems which we where not shy in telling every one and we dropped out for a few months.
When we got back in we where in the top 96% and in less than 6 months we have got back into the top 10%
We never rip any one off or do we try to sell shite or "bunk" products.
When we sold 1kg of ketamine people said it was the best they ever had.
Now we bought 1kg of valium powder off the same suppliers and 90% of the feedback has been excellent.
Some people have complained we will not argue with that but for people to call for us to be banned after all the hard work we put in to bring the people drugs at the cheapest prices we can (we are not greedy we always offer the best deal) is a fucking joke and I am sorry for the bad language.
We do our best, putting our group at risk to LE to import/export all types of drugs to our customers at the best price we can.
You as customers do not realize the amounts of products we have had seized trying to move it from country to country and the price we pay for that.
All you do is jump on us when 1 thing goes wrong.
We still stand buy our diazpeam powder, and we will until it sells out.
And we stand buy every product we sell to be 100% genuine and if you disagree bring us the proof instead of making a fourm name and bad mouthing us hoping that people will buy of you instead of us.
best regards/
Fred
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I missed this part first time I read your post, but at the end you say, quote:
"All you do is jump on us when 1 thing goes wrong."
Hang on a minute, I thought you said your diazepam was genuine, you've really "let the cat out of the bag" with that statement. We are jumping on you because you are selling bunk diazepam that you swear is pure, in making that statement, you are admitting that something has gone wrong, ie, your "diazepam" is not real.
People who lie, usually slip up somewhere- you just did. lol
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Right I just want to make a quick statement now that am coming down from my LSD trip.
I just want to say we should keep this thread on topic and not turn it into a vendor bashing thread. (I know some people are angry me included but.)
We need to let the Reagent test results speak for themselves and let people decide the best course of action.
Vendor bashing is not going to help this thread The Topic is Identifying this “unknown white powder”
Good vibes all around :)
Kind regards
SpeedCrunch
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When is your EZ test going to arrive? i'm curious to see the results
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Hi,
we have been watching this thread since it was brought to our attention.
we are only going to reply once because we do not want to be brought in to a slagging match.
First off we want to say to Andrimoin you say our tablets from India are knockoffs because the picture looks like oval instead of round.
To you my friend which ever Indian vendor you are the picture gets squashed to fit in the listing and any1 with half a brain can see that they are round.
We buy all our tablets direct from the factory, minimum 10,000 per tablet and we have never had any complaints about our quality of tablets.
We know you are an Indian vendor who bad mouths us at every opportunity to try an boost your sales.
There is lots of room for 100 Indian vendors on Silk Road, people will choose who to buy from.
But unlike other Indian vendors who I will not mention we do not jump on every thread saying buy from us blah blah, we are not that desperate.
To b0lixtrader to say we are 1 of the most shady vendors makes us laugh, we have been apart of the SR community for nearly 18 months and have worked hard to make our name.
We where at 1 stage in the top 1% but we had problems which we where not shy in telling every one and we dropped out for a few months.
When we got back in we where in the top 96% and in less than 6 months we have got back into the top 10%
We never rip any one off or do we try to sell shite or "bunk" products.
When we sold 1kg of ketamine people said it was the best they ever had.
Now we bought 1kg of valium powder off the same suppliers and 90% of the feedback has been excellent.
Some people have complained we will not argue with that but for people to call for us to be banned after all the hard work we put in to bring the people drugs at the cheapest prices we can (we are not greedy we always offer the best deal) is a fucking joke and I am sorry for the bad language.
We do our best, putting our group at risk to LE to import/export all types of drugs to our customers at the best price we can.
You as customers do not realize the amounts of products we have had seized trying to move it from country to country and the price we pay for that.
All you do is jump on us when 1 thing goes wrong.
We still stand buy our diazpeam powder, and we will until it sells out.
And we stand buy every product we sell to be 100% genuine and if you disagree bring us the proof instead of making a fourm name and bad mouthing us hoping that people will buy of you instead of us.
best regards/
Fred
You can't just assume someone is a competitor of yours just because they find fault with you product.
I agree with SpeedCrunch, Drug tests does not lie.
Lets see what the EZ tests come up with.
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When is your EZ test going to arrive? i'm curious to see the results
It look's like I should be getting it Tuesday most likely it still has yet to be dispatched.
I ordered it late Friday so it should be dispatched Monday and it's next day recorded delivery so I can track it when it gets sent.
Will update you guys ASAP when I get the full kit.
Kind regards
SpeedCrunch
UPDATE: 24/4/2013 It's here! I got my kit they took there good time getting it to me.
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/TSmv.jpg
I will have the results of testing posted later today.
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Hey peoples
Right I just finished running all the EZ Reagent tests and to be honest am not to sure what to make of them.
But with that said I don't have a lot of experience with identifying different reagent colors so am just going to let you guys have a look and tell me what you think.
[UNKNOWN WHITE POWDER]
Reagent test results: (Mandelin,Marquis,Mecke)
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/ydOJ.jpg
Reagent test results: (Simon's,Robadope's)
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/9ZnC.jpg
[KNOWN GOOD DIAZEPAM TABLET] (Zepose 10 Brand diazepam crushed tablet)
Reagent test results: (Mandelin,Marquis,Mecke)
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/lQ8B.jpg
Reagent test results: (Simon's,Robadope's)
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/hLjc.jpg
[PREVIOUS TEST RESULTS]
I would have posted another V&R Test result but I used my last 4 V&R test ampoules during my initial testing and the V&R test kits are not cheep.
[Failed Reagent test] (MMC V&R (Valium/Rohypnol) Test Kit
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/nsi.JPG
This is what a MMC V&R test should look like when testing real Diazepam.
I tested a tablet of zepose 10 brand Diazepam tablet.
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/nst.JPG
Any thoughts on the EZ test Reagent results would be greatly appreciated.
The only other thing I can think would be to send it off to a lab for GC/MS testing but I don't have that kind of cash.
Kind regards
SpeedCrunch
P.S Be very careful when working with testing reagents. I got one of the reagents on my gloves and it started eating through gloves!.
So it's a good idea to wear full protection double gloves mask and face goggles recommended.
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WOW!? Hold on let me think, nope that's it, just WOW..I want my last 20 minutes back..lol yea slow reader..haha
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So look like his shit is good afterall, or am i misinterpreting the results?
BTW The Simon's, Robadope's images dont work.
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Check my signature.. ;-D
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So look like his shit is good afterall, or am i misinterpreting the results?
BTW The Simon's, Robadope's images dont work.
Then why did me V&R Test kit fail?
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/nsi.JPG
But yet works on a good pill?
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/nst.JPG
To be honest I don't know what to make of the results but I stand by my V&R Diazepam test.
There are 2 kit's online that I know of that are specifically designed to detect Diazepam and that's the M.M.C V&R test and Nik Test Kit R.
So if anyone who has this powder want's to go out and get one of the kits and do there own test and post the results here then that would be great.
Other than that I got nothing.
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Hi,
so just so we are clear, you where such an expert on this that you decided to make this post and run us into the ground but now after your new tests you are not sure, but wait because the new tests did not help you prove your original point you discard them and must stick to your original tests because "I don't have a lot of experience with identifying different reagent colors"
Your my hero speedcrunch
regards/
Fred
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whats up with selling real valium instead of bootleg valium or powders
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Hi,
so just so we are clear, you where such an expert on this that you decided to make this post and run us into the ground but now after your new tests you are not sure, but wait because the new tests did not help you prove your original point you discard them and must stick to your original tests because "I don't have a lot of experience with identifying different reagent colors"
Your my hero speedcrunch
regards/
Fred
Hmm thanks? :o
I never said I was an expert working with testing reagents. Hell I burned a hole in my glove working with one of the Reagent's lol.
Now with that said I do know how to read the results of a V&R testing kit considering I have run dozens of them in the past I know the kit.
But I rarely use reagents such as Mandelin,Marquis,Mecke ,Simon's, and Robadope I have little experience with these Reagents beyond testing 2C-x's as I mostly buy benzodiazepines hence why I had the V&R kit in the first place.
I have uploaded the results for other more experienced members to comment on and am not dismissing them.
Also I would like to add that am not out to run anyone into the ground am not out to end your business I have no problems with any of your other listings.
Am just very concerned that what is being sold is not diazepam.
The fact is that a test kit specifically designed to detect the presence of diazepam powder failed. I ran 3 V&R test's just to triple check and they all failed and I used my last test ampule to check a diazepam tablet and it passed.
I tell you what Fred if you want to prove the quality of you goods then I would suggest buying a M.M.C V&R kit or a Nik Test Kit R your choice and post us a picture of a positive result.
I find it very disturbing that instead of pulling your powder listings temporarily and running a Diazepam test kit of your own you instead go about selling it as Pure Diazepam powder without any regard for people's personal health and safety.
This is just my personal opinion but I find that type of behavior very irresponsible vendors should be testing their product's before it's sold or when fault is found with it.
Am sorry that you feel that am out to run your business into the ground but a failed test is what it is.
Am not going to argue or reply to anymore of your posts I don't see the point.
As I said in a previous post this is not a Vendor bashing thread but I felt I needed to speak my mind.
Kind regards
SpeedCrunch
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Hey SR community
After doing some thinking last night and this morning after I made my post last night I have come to a conclusion.
The only way for this thread to be resolved is for someone other than myself to get a diazepam specific testing kit and post there own results.
Because from the way I see it where just going to have endless speculation on this subject.
Now with that said I do welcome any input from the EZ test results as I have no clue what am looking at.
Kind regards
SpeedCrunch
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I've still got some left that I bought just over a month ago, more than willing to test it alongside a MSJ blue that I also have if someone can direct me to a reasonably priced test kit.
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I've still got some left that I bought just over a month ago, more than willing to test it alongside a MSJ blue that I also have if someone can direct me to a reasonably priced test kit.
PM sent.
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Well, it has been 20 days, ok 15 or so but , where are the results?
Since this was a hot ass topic in April.
The road would like to know.
Now we get nothing, come on! :)
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Well, it has been 20 days, ok 15 or so but , where are the results?
Since this was a hot ass topic in April.
The road would like to know.
Now we get nothing, come on! :)
Well someone has to get a V&R test kit and do an independent test but so far it seems no one can be bothered.
So yeah if there is anyone out there with this white powder I strongly encourage you to get a test kit and post the results.
Come on peoples I can't be the only one on the road who uses diazepam test kits to check there product.
Kind regards
SpeedCrunch
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Well, it has been 20 days, ok 15 or so but , where are the results?
Since this was a hot ass topic in April.
The road would like to know.
Now we get nothing, come on! :)
Well someone has to get a V&R test kit and do an independent test but so far it seems no one can be bothered.
So yeah if there is anyone out there with this white powder I strongly encourage you to get a test kit and post the results.
Come on peoples I can't be the only one on the road who uses diazepam test kits to check there product.
Kind regards
SpeedCrunch
I've been reading this thread. I am too quite surprised that someone would discount chemistry as though it has some vendetta against their business. I can see the reason for suspicion on the vendors behalf, as you *could* be another vendor using some tests and alternate chemicals to cause faulty or failed results. But from what I've read, it doesn't seem like that's your agenda as you could have tested other of his products. Also, people who have ingested are too reporting a diminished or augmented effect.
You'd be surprised how many people go by feedback only here and will consume. It's great your using these kits, and I look forward to the results, even though I don't use these substances. Good job. Many more people should take this seriously. It's also possible that the vendor doesn't even know what it is and trusts his own source blindly.
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Well, it has been 20 days, ok 15 or so but , where are the results?
Since this was a hot ass topic in April.
The road would like to know.
Now we get nothing, come on! :)
Well someone has to get a V&R test kit and do an independent test but so far it seems no one can be bothered.
So yeah if there is anyone out there with this white powder I strongly encourage you to get a test kit and post the results.
Come on peoples I can't be the only one on the road who uses diazepam test kits to check there product.
Kind regards
SpeedCrunch
I've been reading this thread. I am too quite surprised that someone would discount chemistry as though it has some vendetta against their business. I can see the reason for suspicion on the vendors behalf, as you *could* be another vendor using some tests and alternate chemicals to cause faulty or failed results. But from what I've read, it doesn't seem like that's your agenda as you could have tested other of his products. Also, people who have ingested are too reporting a diminished or augmented effect.
You'd be surprised how many people go by feedback only here and will consume. It's great your using these kits, and I look forward to the results, even though I don't use these substances. Good job. Many more people should take this seriously. It's also possible that the vendor doesn't even know what it is and trusts his own source blindly.
Well it is possible that the vendor doesn't know but I think a more accurate observation would be SOME of them just don't care. It's all about the MONEY for those that if you wanted to buy dog shit would sell it and if they could find counterfit dog shit that made them more money well then you'd be gettin counterfit dog shit instead. There just are few and far between the vendors that give a fuck what they profit off verses what they sell they know is true. This is why it is such good advice to find the vendors you trust and stick with them s well know what the fuck it is your buying. Be safe and stay well.. :)
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The vendor is well aware of this topic, he has even posted here.
So far the results are inconclusive and until somebody experienced checks this, i for one am not buying there anymore.
I would even chip in, if somebody would be willing to test it.
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The vendor is well aware of this topic, he has even posted here.
So far the results are inconclusive and until somebody experienced checks this, i for one am not buying there anymore.
I would even chip in, if somebody would be willing to test it.
If someone has a test kit READY, I will send them 250 mg so that you can see the difference between whatever it is whoever is selling and a legit product ONLY because the vendor rating system has effectively screwed me. :-\ Message me on the road or I might catch a pm here.
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The vendor is well aware of this topic, he has even posted here.
So far the results are inconclusive and until somebody experienced checks this, i for one am not buying there anymore.
I would even chip in, if somebody would be willing to test it.
If someone has a test kit READY, I will send them 250 mg so that you can see the difference between whatever it is whoever is selling and a legit product ONLY because the vendor rating system has effectively screwed me. :-\ Message me on the road or I might catch a pm here.
Takers?