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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: silky1315 on February 29, 2012, 09:10 am
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hey all,
I'm brand new here- I've just been browsing the site in complete awe for the past few days. I still have a hard time believing something like this actually exists. I'm a die hard libertarian so this is like porn to me. It gives me hope for the world. The whole bitcoin thing is giving me a headache but it could be worse.
Anyway, that's not why I'm posting.
I'm a 20 year old college student I've experimented with a variety of drugs, anything relatively safe I could get my hands on (pot, salvia, NO2, mescaline, LSA, shrooms, prescription amphetamines). I've had ADHD (or at least been diagnosed with) since I was a kid so i have a prescription for methylphenidate (concerta). I also grow marijuana and mushrooms just as a side note.
I've been reading through the postings and I've found that many of you seem to be well educated and intelligent people who have their life in order. I guess my question is how do you it ? - I mean balance your drug use with your daily life. I want to experiment with new drugs but i also want to be responsible. I don't want to jeopardize my relationships with the people I love and I can't have my g.p.a slip one decimal. Any advice ?
Thank you,
- Brother Silky
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Everything in moderation...
...including moderation! ;)
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I'm in college (sort of - grad student) and I manage to balance quite well. And I did in my undergrad too, like the poster above said - it's all about moderation. (I also had a 'normal' job straight out of undergrad that I also managed well while using drugs).
Now I'm fairly fortunate. I just do work during the day (with a nice long break in the middle) and just chill and do some drugs at night (usually weed because it's my favourite =) ). But when I feel like I need a blow out and just want to have a couple of days of unadulterated fun then I clear my schedule, order my drugs, and just go for it. - This works for me because I don't have much difficulty coming back after a couple of days of hardcore chilling/taking drugs/hanging out/whatever, but I had a friend who found this difficult so he just stuck to evening usage.
I mentioned in another post that taking drugs can work to your advantage. You're generally a lot more creative on drugs, and see things slightly differently, so if I've been slogging on something and it appears shit then I take a glance when I'm high or tripping and see other ways to think about it -- this actually worked really great in my undergrad - me and my 'druggy' friends (as everyone called us) got the highest marks out of the entire class.
I think you'll be ok, just learn your own limits, and depending on personal preference try and set some limits/rules. i.e. I'll never 'try' Heroin (I was scarred after seeing Black Tar Heroin - has anyone seen this movie??)
If you want any other tips you can send me a PM :)
PS. Oh, I just thought, if you're in college I find there's always one dude who tries to take everything way too far - try and avoid this dude, and try not to become him! :)
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im currently in uni i guess thats college in states? tertiary education anyway. I only have one rule and that is only do drugs in weekend. ive started smoking weed during weekdays before and everything turns to shit i was lucky to pass that year. So you gotta know what you can do and what you cant.
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If you are trying to avoid trouble dont use opiates with any frequency.
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"I'm a die hard libertarian .... I'm a 20 year old college student ... I've had ADHD (past tense)) since I was a kid.
Stay in college, you'll soon find out that libertarianism is a joke. How odd, a 20 year old libertarian. Ever pay taxes? When did your ADHD go away? the medical community is waiting for you.
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If you are trying to avoid trouble dont use opiates with any frequency.
or at all. seen to many people go down this road, i remember buying my last oxy and being like okay, time to quit. haven't gone back since. a dangerous road to go down.
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As has been mentioned, priorities and moderation. Bigglesworth nailed a major point, "you need money to pay for your drugs, you need a job to get money, therefore you can't let drugs fuck your job up."
Try to take some time to pay attention to how the drugs affect you negatively. I try to take a personal note of how I'm affected in the areas of physical performance, physical look to others (sweating, dilated pupils, pacing, drooling, grinding teeth, etc) how quickly I can think on my feet, retention of information, accuracy of thoughts (am I overlooking important info?), attention span, and anything else you feel is important.
I have a past history of addiction/substance-abuse, so for new substances I have an approach that tests myself. I will decide whether I want take it slow and really learn the substance and how it works and affects me, or if I want to do it big on a single outing. If taking it slow I make sure to start off with a low dose and wait it out without re-dosing. Based on that experience and my desire to re-dose, I'll have an idea of whether I'll be able to continue using it while maintaining the right state of mind in daily life. I've learned that if I'm not careful I will continue to convince myself it won't be/isn't a problem until it has been a problem and it's time to play catch-up. After that first experience I will work my way up with preset doses and will continue to not re-dose. When doing it big I make it a single (sometimes two) day experience, and don't go back to it for a minimum of 1-2 weeks. Just my routine though, ymmv.
If you really want to balance drug use and daily life, then I can't stress the next quote enough.
If you are trying to avoid trouble dont use opiates with any frequency.
or at all. seen to many people go down this road, i remember buying my last oxy and being like okay, time to quit. haven't gone back since. a dangerous road to go down.
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I guess my question is how do you it ? - I mean balance your drug use with your daily life.
It's not that hard. Think about all the people that smoke cigarettes every day who are successful and have balanced lives. They're addicted to a drug, whether anyone wants to admit it or not. While there are some drugs that can cause you to be too fucked up to go to work or function in society, as long as you're not a dumbass and know when the right place and time to use them is, you ought to be fine.
Just research any drug you intend to use before you use it, find out the estimated time it will take for it's effects to wear off, find out the recommended and lethal doses, find out what you should have on hand during your trip, et cetera.
P.S. Welcome to the Silk Road darling, I hope you enjoy your time here. :)
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Stay in college, you'll soon find out that libertarianism is a joke. How odd, a 20 year old libertarian. Ever pay taxes? When did your ADHD go away? the medical community is waiting for you.
^^Hahahahaha!! That made me laugh hysterically for what feels like forever and I just had to acknowledge it! (I'm high as fuck on some of SpanishFly's weed). Anyway - hilarious! I once worked at a pretty big computer company (i'm too scared to say which, but I SO wish I could because it would make this funnier) and the CEO tried to give a motivational speech because we're going down the shitter and told us about his son and how he was cured of autism! Hmmm...
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Thanks so much for the replies everyone. I'm really looking forward to being a part of this community you're all very helpful.
"I'm a die hard libertarian .... I'm a 20 year old college student ... I've had ADHD (past tense)) since I was a kid.
Stay in college, you'll soon find out that libertarianism is a joke. How odd, a 20 year old libertarian. Ever pay taxes? When did your ADHD go away? the medical community is waiting for you.
haha I guess i had this coming. I won't argue, you're right, I haven't had the life experience to justify my political stance fully I suppose. Perhaps it will change, perhaps not. I'm not that guy who obnoxiously speaks politics so I'm a little embarrassed for saying anything at all.
Sorry for the ambiguity, I still do have ADHD technically- just a personal thing, I don't like to use the term because I don't believe the condition is a disorder, just a different way of thinking. I do recognize however, that in order to function properly for the most part, medication helps.
I guess everyone's different but I've never really had a strong desire to use optiates. ( aside from opium, based on an edgar allen poe short story :p but what i understand its hard to find anyway) I love stimulants very much however. So my biggest fear would be developing a cocaine or amphetamine addiction- thinking about it now, I don't have the money for a cocaine addiction and as far as amphetamine goes, I'm just gonna stick to my prescription because if I blow through that quickly, as I often due, I'm punished later when its all out.
I mentioned in another post that taking drugs can work to your advantage. You're generally a lot more creative on drugs, and see things slightly differently, so if I've been slogging on something and it appears shit then I take a glance when I'm high or tripping and see other ways to think about it -- this actually worked really great in my undergrad - me and my 'druggy' friends (as everyone called us) got the highest marks out of the entire class.
Thank you, that's exactly what I'm trying to go for and needed to hear.
I would like to experiment with LSD. Any advice on preparing myself and getting started? I've researched it somewhat but I would find any personal input extremely helpful.
Very Appreciatively,
-Brother Silky
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So my biggest fear would be developing a cocaine or amphetamine addiction- thinking about it now, I don't have the money for a cocaine addiction and as far as amphetamine goes, I'm just gonna stick to my prescription because if I blow through that quickly, as I often due, I'm punished later when its all out.
Ahhh, I've been there^^ my friend. When I was at college getting my undergrad I convinced the psychiatrist to give me Adderall and it became so easy to get her to give it to me that I was definitely on that line of going too far. The downfall of college, I guess...I was talking to one of my professors back then and he was like "back in my day we just did coke but this shit is great!" Such a dude! (sorry, i'm blazed and going slightly off track!)
HOWEVER, I firmly believe that I do better because of my drug taking hobby...I have drugs if I need creativity to give me an edge, drugs to help me relax and stay balanced, and drugs for those last minutes when you just really need that bit of help staying focused. :)
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I'd say it's all about setting limits for yourself.
One of my rules is never coke, meth, or heroin (or any opiates).
I'm already hooked on cigarettes, so I don't need any more addictions.
Plus "hard" drugs scare me.
I'm also a uni student.
I smoke weed everyday, not all day, though.
My grades are pretty good, but nothing exemplary.
I try and use smoking as a reward, a "treat" after my homework is completed, if you will.
So just set your limits and stick to them.
I have trouble doing this with MXE, however. :P
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Thanks so much for the replies everyone. I'm really looking forward to being a part of this community you're all very helpful.
"I'm a die hard libertarian .... I'm a 20 year old college student ... I've had ADHD (past tense)) since I was a kid.
Stay in college, you'll soon find out that libertarianism is a joke. How odd, a 20 year old libertarian. Ever pay taxes? When did your ADHD go away? the medical community is waiting for you.
haha I guess i had this coming. I won't argue, you're right, I haven't had the life experience to justify my political stance fully I suppose. Perhaps it will change, perhaps not. I'm not that guy who obnoxiously speaks politics so I'm a little embarrassed for saying anything at all.
Sorry for the ambiguity, I still do have ADHD technically- just a personal thing, I don't like to use the term because I don't believe the condition is a disorder, just a different way of thinking. I do recognize however, that in order to function properly for the most part, medication helps.
I guess everyone's different but I've never really had a strong desire to use optiates. ( aside from opium, based on an edgar allen poe short story :p but what i understand its hard to find anyway) I love stimulants very much however. So my biggest fear would be developing a cocaine or amphetamine addiction- thinking about it now, I don't have the money for a cocaine addiction and as far as amphetamine goes, I'm just gonna stick to my prescription because if I blow through that quickly, as I often due, I'm punished later when its all out.
I mentioned in another post that taking drugs can work to your advantage. You're generally a lot more creative on drugs, and see things slightly differently, so if I've been slogging on something and it appears shit then I take a glance when I'm high or tripping and see other ways to think about it -- this actually worked really great in my undergrad - me and my 'druggy' friends (as everyone called us) got the highest marks out of the entire class.
Thank you, that's exactly what I'm trying to go for and needed to hear.
I would like to experiment with LSD. Any advice on preparing myself and getting started? I've researched it somewhat but I would find any personal input extremely helpful.
Very Appreciatively,
-Brother Silky
I considered myself libertarian for a while, as I'm a big fan of individual freedom, but there are so many other policy choices with libertarianism which just aren't ideal. I'm all for individual freedom and choice, but not when it means exploitation of the free market by all these big corporations. Reduced government impact on business probably isn't a good thing these days, just look at how regulation downsizing in the US lead to the GFC.
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No one has mentioned "functioning alcoholics" yet.
Some people can literally drink themselves into a retarded stupor every night, yet still get up for work each day and hold down their job just fine.
At some point, I must say, though, your grades are probably going to suffer, because unfortunately drugs can often cause people to lose motivation and focus. Perhaps that won't matter so much in the first couple of years of your undergrad., but consider getting totally clean for your final years, as those grades are usually weighted more.
Edit: Ah, the life of the undergrad. college student! How I miss those days! :)
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funny u mention not getting hangovers i was drinking 15-20 beers a night or about months straight or an equiv amount of spirits. ever since never had a hangover again.dont even drink now though since i can get drugs on sr cheaper than alcohol. did oxy and tried heroin didnt even get remotely addicted yet i iv 400mg m1 then another 600mg 10min later. now that i can see an addiction forming. funny how everyone has different addictions
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i still drink and still do coke, but i can have a beer and a line and just leave it at the one now. of course i still go on benders but i'm just not hooked any more. weird eh? so all that 'once an addict always an addict' is bollocks. well, for me anyway, but i am pretty strong minded when i want to be
Time for an intervention! You lying piece of shit coke head!
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I love them too... I like to keep it a secret!! Shhhhh :-X
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I'm in my mid 40s, wife and kids and never really did drugs until I found SR. I smoked weed occasionally and would take opiates when I had the opportunity. Did shrooms once. But over the past few months I have to say that I LOVE drugs also. I don't have an addictive personality so I don't feel like I HAVE to do them but I've experimented with a bunch of different things here and just really love being high on various substances. Also, MXE has changed my life from being severely depressed, suicidal, twice hospitalized, panic attacks and the whole works that come from being on the very low end of depression. No joy in life and barely functional and unable to hold a job for the past two years. I actually feel happy with life now. I can honestly say that I love life and have a deep empathy and love for humanity now.
I guess I love drugs for more reasons than one. They gave me my life back.
Sorry. Sounds like a journal entry and probably corny but eh....what the fuck.
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Hey Tc
Can you give some details of mxe? What are the effects, dosage, method? Thanks mate.
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One of my rules is never coke
I used to think this too until I tried it. It's not even as hard as mdma or shrooms IMO. I was like, really? This is it?
I've tried taking more lines too but it's not like everyone makes it out to be.
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Hey Tc
Can you give some details of mxe? What are the effects, dosage, method? Thanks mate.
It's a dissociative so that's the effect when you take it. It seems like it's always different when I take it though. Sometimes it's euphoric, sometimes it's psychedelic, sometimes it feels like you're totally baked on really good weed. I'm not a professional psychonaut but I'm pretty sure that I've hit the "M Hole" a couple times where you feel like you don't really exist. Like you're not sure if you've ever been born or if you've died. It's something that will freak you out but if you tell yourself that you've just taken a drug and it's all gonna be fine soon then you'll be ok. Just don't let yourself get freaked out and just ride it out. I've always eyeballed my doses (plan on buying a scale this weekend). My suggestion is to check out Erowid.org if you haven't before. That's all the real info that you need about MXE or any drug (effects, dose, method). Oh, and I've always snorted it. I've read that some people put it under their tongue or inside their lip but I've never done it that way. Now that's all about the trip. The next day you're gonna feel like a million dollars. There are days after I've taken it where I'm so super happy and almost manic but not with any of the bad sides of mania. If that makes sense. I've talked so much about MXE in the forums that people are probably sick of reading my shit. It really is an amazing drug and easily my favorite. I'd say to check it out. It's pretty cheap and if you have depression it's gonna blow your mind at how it just melts away your depression. Good luck and let me know your thoughts if you do decide to invest in some.
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Blockrockinbeats mentioned functioning alcoholics, I've definitely been there before. Not so much that I would call it an addiction for me, I just partied a LOT more than I should have. Managed to go out every night, plow through 20 or so shots. (Not a bad amount, especially given that I'm tiny.) Never had a hangover and still passed all my classes with a 3.5 ...I just got too vain to keep taking in all the calories. Seriously.
As far as drugs go, I'm pretty much willing to give everything a go once. Besides krokodil. (I'll save the flesh eating for the zombie apocalypse. ;) ) I just try not to do the same thing too many times in a row, and I hold myself accountable for my other responsibilities. (If I miss something from oversleeping/too much fun I'll stop for a few weeks.) If it means flushing what I've got to avoid temptation, I'll do it. :'(
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If you are trying to avoid trouble dont use opiates with any frequency.
This. Opiates are unlike any other drug.
Have fun, experiment. Just keep a healthy balance.