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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: olatren on May 08, 2013, 05:36 am
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I want to share my bad experience with SL vendor Fantastictimes and see if anyone has run into similar problems with him. The first time I've bought 1 gram of methylone from this vendor, the quality was excellent. It was a regular small crystal m1 with its characteristic sweet smell. The second time I bought 5 grams when in the late February the vendor ran a sale advertising "Large crystal methylone". Both times the vendor shipped extremely fast and I gave him high marks before I tried the product. The product that I got the second time looked exactly like Moonrock MDMA, beige to light brownish substanse and didn't have any smell at all. Or more precisely it had an extremely faint, barely recognizable smell, but nothing like m1 or other substituted cathinones. I don't take drugs more often then once every 6 weeks, so by the time I got to try it, it was April. I took 250mg on an empty stomach and after 40 minutes only felt a mild buzz. I added another 100mg and then another 150mg. I only felt mild non-specific buzz, without any mental or bodily euphoria. Typically on m1 I feel the waves pulsing through my body in response to the music and also if I move any part of my body. None of this was happening. I tried plugging 200mg, the dosage that on its own by this ROA normally would sent me blasting through the roof. I got no additional effect. I gave this stuff to my friends and they too only felt a mild buzz. All of them were sure that this was not methylone.
A week ago I contacted the vendor and got no reply. I've contacted SL moderators 3 days ago and so fa heard nothing from them either. That goes to show how useful "report a vendor" option is. Has anyone else been scammed by Fantastictimes? Did anybody come across this substances and have any idea what the substance is? Fantastictimes still sells large crystal methylone and I see it being offered by more and more vendors. And it gets rave reviews from the users! But I did find a few references on the web where people described exactly the same product like I got, which was claimed by vendors to be but was not methylone. I figure out that one of the batches of new large crystal methylone that Fantastictimes got turned out to be bunk. To get rid of it he ran a sale at $18 a gram, and I was one of the unlucky buyers who ended up with this junk, which I hope, will not turn out to be poisonous in the long run. Now, this vendor is very good at packaging and sends stuff very quickly. But if my experience tells you anything, next time he gets garbage - perhaps unsafe garbage from his suppliers, he will unscrupulously pass it on to you, his customers. Make you own conclusions!
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Sweet! Not only do we have to worry about getting methylone when ordering "PURE MDMA", now we have to worry about fake methylone when ordering methlyone!
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After I posted this the vendor finally responded. He mentioned that he is selling the same stuff that other vendors on SL are selling. I can attest to that as several of my friends got the same substance passed as M1. I have asked the vendor to send me the same high quality methylone that he sent me the first time. I will keep updating this thread.
I am surprised that nobody else commented about a similar experience. Beta-ketones such as methylone, butylone and ethylone have a similar sweet smell. Other substances do not smell like it. For example 5-Methyl Ethylone (5-Methyl-bk-MDEA) lacks this smell or, in fact, any smell. Other canthinones, such as 4-MEC have a much harder chemical scent. Then there is the effect. The buzz from this substance is somewhat similar to 3,4 DMMC or R-MMC, but then I researched these substances just once because they were not satisfying. Just like this chemical.
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One more thing.
If anyone RECENTLY purchased GOOD methylone on SL, could you please let me know from which vendor? Thanks!
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One more thing.
If anyone RECENTLY purchased GOOD methylone on SL, could you please let me know from which vendor? Thanks!
Have you tried TheMovement? Very good quality, and by far the most proffesional vendors I've come Into contact with
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welp, i wasnt planning on eating any methylone today but after reading this post i pretty much have to try out my order.
just ate 185mg (my standard m1 dose)
ill report back with my findings shortly
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been over an hour... nothing.
gonna redose another 200mg
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ok so, as soon as i took the next 200mg i started feeling it.
now i am rolling pretty good.
maybe not quite as good as the first time i got it but that my just be in my head from reading this post.
Definitely not bunk at all, maybe not the best, but certainly not bunk
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rolling really hard now after a couple more doses
def not bunk, i cant barely type
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sorry about your bad experience
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rolling really hard now after a couple more doses
def not bunk, i cant barely type
SexyWax, from what you wrote it looks like you took close 800mg of m1 - this is a huge doze. Even if you had a large tolerance you would feel normal m1 at 185 mg, and should be able to get a good roll from 335mg. Maybe not as good as the first 10 times, but nevertheless, a very good roll. It should not take 785mg to get you there - that should cause all sorts of unpleasant side-effects. How long was your roll?
Methylone on the empty stomach always hits me in 24 minutes and I get about 2 hours of good roll, if I don't redose.
What does your methylone look and smell like? Is it similar to what Fantastictimes has (light brownish crystals, very much like molly, with no scent) or traditional salt-like sweet smelling crystal? If yours is like Fantastictimes's, have you tested it with reagent kit? If you did, or if you don't mind doing it, could you please describe the results? (reagent, color change and color change time)
Thanks.
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One more thing.
If anyone RECENTLY purchased GOOD methylone on SL, could you please let me know from which vendor? Thanks!
Have you tried TheMovement? Very good quality, and by far the most proffesional vendors I've come Into contact with
Could you please describe their methylone? What amount worked for you for a good roll? It seems that there is a lot of something else, masquerading as m1 going around. There a lot of substances which might make one that he is rolling on m1, if the person never rolled on real m1. All cathinones like 4,3 DMMC, 3-MMC will give you the buzz without m1's incredible physical euphoria, and things like 4fa can easily be taken for m, by those who have not had it. I must have gone through about 80grams of this stuff when it was legal.
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people suck. shocking.
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@olatren you make valid points and i cant disagree with anything.
it has no smell. this is the second time ive bought from fantastictimes. i definitely notice a decrease in potency from the first time i bought it.
ill take some pics when i get around to it
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post in the threads on rumor mill to help others
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post in the threads on rumor mill to help others
As a newbie, I am cannot post there yet.
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This large crystal "methylone" is now being offered by more and more vendors. In a crystal form it has no smell. The small crystal methylone has the same sweet vanilla-like scent as the same type of methylone powder does. So yesterday I crashed this new "methylone" into fine powder. The powder did have a very light scent reminiscent of M1. That gave me a wild idea. Do you guys know what 4P is? It is a recrystalized mixture of two different cathinones 4-mec and pentedrone in a 70%/30% ratio. Here is the reference: http://www.chemicalservices.net/buy-research-chemicals/buy-4-p-crystals.html. I've had both chemicals as well as 4P. I much prefer them separately, but that might be just me. The point here is that rather than selling the mixture of two, which would have the same effects as 4P crystal, somebody came up with a recrystallization process to make a more presentable product. It is possible that for the reasons of cost, somebody came up with a process to recrystalize M1 with some other, less expensive compound. If the compound is inactive, that would explain, why this new methylone is so much weaker. But the large crystals are so presentable that placebo effect kicks in and people believe that they are getting an awesome roll. I always roll to hard-style or to Bajofonda. When I hear this music in a totally sober state, I get the wave of euphoria - that's the power of suggestion! That's probably why people are "jeezing in their pants" as I read in reviews. The manufacturers probably sell this product to vendors at a lower cost, increasing their profit. And even though vendors sell it to customers at a lower cost than pure methylone, their margin is probably still higher, than with regular M1. And if the market is flooded with this new inferior product, it might be a trade-off they are willing to take to avoid going out their way in order to source the real thing.
It is, perhaps, a far-fetched theory, but how else would you explain that it took SexyWax 785mg to get a good roll?
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Fantastic times has returned 3/4 of the money I paid for his methylone. I would like to add that he was perfectly polite and attentive to me during our communication. Also while my order was for 5 grams, he has sent me 5.6 grams. I am very pleased with the way he conducts business and I would not hesitate to order from him again when he has the first rate methylone that I bought from him the first time. I am writing this on my own will because I believe in giving credit where it belongs.
I have ordered trial quantities of M1 from two more vendors, who did not describe their methylone as large crystal or Moonrock. I will post here after I receive the samples and have a chance to research them.
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Screw the scammers while scam on a already cheap substance
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I bought M1 from FT a while ago when they were selling powder and the shit literally knocked my socks off! I dont know much about this new stuff. Hell, I don't even know why they switched it up....maybe bc it was powder
My current m1 comes straight from the lab (via a vendor here on sr). I don't really do it leisurely (so i can't really give an accurate assessment of my tolerance) but I do whenever I get a new batch in. I usually start feeling something 5 mins after taking it (crushed, orally). Usually .25-.30 gives me a pretty good roll. The key to using this stuff is...IF YOU MUST redose...it has to be within 30-45 mins of the original dose. Regardless of how "high" you think you feel, its best to redose during that window.
PS...I can't do more than .5 or it feels like my prostate is gonna explode lmao
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OK, so I am very new to methylone. and the past couple weeks i got a serious crash course in the stuff.
Ive only ever had m1 from fantastictimes
last week i bought 10 grams and saw this thread so i had to sample it.
that turned into a week long binge on the stuff.
ended up doing 10 grams to my head in 5 or 6 days...
i find it extremely hard to stop doing it once i start.
i have some m1 from themovement now gonna try that soon and do a comparison
does anyone here have any suggestions for me cause i am finding myself slowly becoming a methylone junky
you can all spare me any preachy bullshit, just need some advice on how to manage being able to do a little m1 without it turning into a week long binge
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thats BS ive ordered alot of methylone from a few different vendors on SR and every time fantastictimes always comethrough with good crystal, im with olatren on this, give credit where its due.
i always start with three hits and im perfect its the same high everytime. more often then not i end up doing a gram to myself, dont snort alot of it, its kind of a waste, i parachute mine now and its alot better and lasts alot longer. the biggest difference between molly and m1 for me is that my legs get numb thats about it i like it more then molly for some reason i cant really explain why though
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One more thing.
If anyone RECENTLY purchased GOOD methylone on SL, could you please let me know from which vendor? Thanks!
Have you tried TheMovement? Very good quality, and by far the most proffesional vendors I've come Into contact with
Could you please describe their methylone? What amount worked for you for a good roll? It seems that there is a lot of something else, masquerading as m1 going around. There a lot of substances which might make one that he is rolling on m1, if the person never rolled on real m1. All cathinones like 4,3 DMMC, 3-MMC will give you the buzz without m1's incredible physical euphoria, and things like 4fa can easily be taken for m, by those who have not had it. I must have gone through about 80grams of this stuff when it was legal.
drzheng's M1 is bitchin'. Loved it :)
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try out tigerrush ive noticed that they take a day longer then my usual orders but the product is always the same, and its IMO the best M1 on SR, i actually got some of that shitty M1 where id redose alot with only very mild effects, it was tan like mdma, and just pissed me off
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One more thing.
If anyone RECENTLY purchased GOOD methylone on SL, could you please let me know from which vendor? Thanks!
Have you tried TheMovement? Very good quality, and by far the most proffesional vendors I've come Into contact with
That's not what I've heard. http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/f6Zy.jpg
Although I only sell 99.9% pure methylone so maybe that's why.
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One more thing.
If anyone RECENTLY purchased GOOD methylone on SL, could you please let me know from which vendor? Thanks!
Have you tried TheMovement? Very good quality, and by far the most proffesional vendors I've come Into contact with
That's not what I've heard. http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/f6Zy.jpg
Although I only sell 99.9% pure methylone so maybe that's why.
ha yea, and besides this week im tryn out jacknhoff's M1 pretty excited to make that order hopefully monday or tuesaday for that 500grams, such awesome deals, hope they last at least for a lil longer!
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One more thing.
If anyone RECENTLY purchased GOOD methylone on SL, could you please let me know from which vendor? Thanks!
Have you tried TheMovement? Very good quality, and by far the most proffesional vendors I've come Into contact with
That's not what I've heard. http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/f6Zy.jpg
Although I only sell 99.9% pure methylone so maybe that's why.
ha yea, and besides this week im tryn out jacknhoff's M1 pretty excited to make that order hopefully monday or tuesaday for that 500grams, such awesome deals, hope they last at least for a lil longer!
That is my standard pricing and it isn't changing. 8) My 100 gram sample listing is my only listing on sale and I think I'll run the sale until the end of July.