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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: Dankyman on March 13, 2012, 08:53 pm

Title: Scared about shipping
Post by: Dankyman on March 13, 2012, 08:53 pm
Hey guys, im new to this whole bitcoin and silkroad stuff. Im ordering some edibles off the market sometime later and wanted some advice on shipping. Im shipping to my p.o. box which resides at a ups store some blocks away from my home. I plan on using my real name (is this a bad thing or not?), and basically all correct info. Im worried because the seller is using usps as the shipping method and Ups is where i get my mail, so someone has to bring all packages to the UPS store from the USPS outpost. I hope this isnt stupid, what can be so menacing about some brownies? Is this ok, and or should i stop being a bitch?
Title: Re: Scared about shipping
Post by: Dankyman on March 13, 2012, 09:21 pm
Could i get some personal insight?
Title: Re: Scared about shipping
Post by: airforced on March 13, 2012, 09:52 pm
I'm of the opinion that using your real name, or slight variation, is fine (e.g. changing Jack Johnson to Mr. J. Johnson). There are others on SR that disagree, but I feel the most likely way that you are going to get pinched is through bad packaging, and with something like brownies, I don't think you'd need to worry (unless they are super stinky of course  ;) ).

If the package did rip open, it would just look like your mother had sent you some home made brownies. Nothing wrong with that. No pills would fall out, no powerdery substance, no dime bag. Just some delicious looking brownies.

Having extra people handle any package adds more risk though, and having things sit in a po box that "smell" is never the best idea.

my 10 cents.
Title: Re: Scared about shipping
Post by: ProfADaemon on March 18, 2012, 09:55 am
I plan on using my real name (is this a bad thing or not?), and basically all correct info.

There's no reason to do otherwise - the UPS Store employees might call the cops in suspicion if you used fake info.

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Im worried because the seller is using usps as the shipping method and Ups is where i get my mail, so someone has to bring all packages to the UPS store from the USPS outpost. I hope this isnt stupid, what can be so menacing about some brownies? Is this ok, and or should i stop being a bitch?

UPS Stores are considered "Commercial Mail Receiving Agencies". This is the ideal way to receive Silk Road mail. They cannot open your USPS mail without a warrant any more than USPS employees can. USPS mail that is sealed and postmarked cannot be opened while in transit from the post office to you.

You're doing this in the MOST safe way possible. UPS Store isn't "UPS" only, they allow you to send and receive mail from USPS, FedEx, UPS, as well as DHL usually.
Title: Re: Scared about shipping
Post by: ProfADaemon on March 18, 2012, 09:59 am
I'm of the opinion that using your real name, or slight variation, is fine (e.g. changing Jack Johnson to Mr. J. Johnson). There are others on SR that disagree, but I feel the most likely way that you are going to get pinched is through bad packaging, and with something like brownies, I don't think you'd need to worry (unless they are super stinky of course  ;) ).

What possible reason would you have for using a "slight variation" on your name?????????? Please, explain to me what is going on in your head, that makes you think that's a good idea in ANY way?? Explain, please!

THEY HAVE A FUCKING DATABASE OF EVERY NAME AND ADDRESS COMBINATION THAT HAS EVER RECEIVED MAIL.

THE PEOPLE THAT DELIVER YOUR MAIL ARE HUMAN BEINGS WHO REMEMBER THINGS AND OBSERVE THINGS, SUCH AS WHO LIVES WHERE AND HOW THEIR NAMES ARE SPELLED.


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If the package did rip open, it would just look like your mother had sent you some home made brownies. Nothing wrong with that. No pills would fall out, no powerdery substance, no dime bag. Just some delicious looking brownies.

Well, if the package rips open, it should contain a SMALLER, sealed, opaque package which also has the name & address on it. Never send illicit goods through the mail without at least double, if not quadruple enveloping or packaging it.

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Having extra people handle any package adds more risk though, and having things sit in a po box that "smell" is never the best idea.

How does it add more risk?

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my 10 cents.

Please, think before you type.
Title: Re: Scared about shipping
Post by: assclap on March 18, 2012, 03:11 pm
Edibles are probably one of the safest things to ship. Even if they open it, it just looks like some food. Using your real name is fine.

First order is always scary. Figure nail biting the whole time...then it arrives and its magical and everyone is happy.
Title: Re: Scared about shipping
Post by: airforced on March 19, 2012, 10:59 pm
I'm of the opinion that using your real name, or slight variation, is fine (e.g. changing Jack Johnson to Mr. J. Johnson). There are others on SR that disagree, but I feel the most likely way that you are going to get pinched is through bad packaging, and with something like brownies, I don't think you'd need to worry (unless they are super stinky of course  ;) ).

What possible reason would you have for using a "slight variation" on your name?????????? Please, explain to me what is going on in your head, that makes you think that's a good idea in ANY way?? Explain, please!

THEY HAVE A FUCKING DATABASE OF EVERY NAME AND ADDRESS COMBINATION THAT HAS EVER RECEIVED MAIL.

THE PEOPLE THAT DELIVER YOUR MAIL ARE HUMAN BEINGS WHO REMEMBER THINGS AND OBSERVE THINGS, SUCH AS WHO LIVES WHERE AND HOW THEIR NAMES ARE SPELLED.


The slight variation that I spoke of was not changing or misspelling any part of the name, just dropping part of it. Like I said in my example, going from Jack Johnson to a Mr. J Johnson. Still the same name, but doesn't have their full first name.

The reason to do this has to do with peace of mind of the buyer. I'll totally admit it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme changing it slightly like that, but some people don't feel comfortable giving their full given name to some drug dealer on the internet whom they've never met IRL. There's no added security in doing it this way, but it does make some people I know who use SR feel more comfortable.

If the package did rip open, it would just look like your mother had sent you some home made brownies. Nothing wrong with that. No pills would fall out, no powerdery substance, no dime bag. Just some delicious looking brownies.

Well, if the package rips open, it should contain a SMALLER, sealed, opaque package which also has the name & address on it. Never send illicit goods through the mail without at least double, if not quadruple enveloping or packaging it.

I've had a  package with drugs delivered, which was shipped in two envelopes, rip open and because it was something non-drug looking, USPS put it into one of their envelopes that basically says "Sorry we fucked up your package. Here is your package." Ordering edibles falls into this category. I was trying to lessen the OPs fear because he was ordering something that most people think of as non-drug, and even if the worst-case scenario were to happene like it did to me, he'd be in a better situation than if a pills or powder were present.
 

Having extra people handle any package adds more risk though, and having things sit in a po box that "smell" is never the best idea.

How does it add more risk?

Really? You don't see how having more people handle your illegal drug's being shipped through the mail can cause more risk? What's more risky, buying face to face from a dealer, or having a friend buy your drugs then deliver them? How about two separate friends? How about three?

With regards to a mailed package, each person sorting and deliverying your mail can have their own agenda, see something which they think looks suspecious, or notice a pattern of packages being sent to you, thus adding more risk. It's fairly straightforward concept.

my 10 cents.

Please, think before you type.

How about you try to not to be a jerk before you type.
Title: Re: Scared about shipping
Post by: ProfADaemon on March 27, 2012, 08:54 pm
I'm of the opinion that using your real name, or slight variation, is fine (e.g. changing Jack Johnson to Mr. J. Johnson). There are others on SR that disagree, but I feel the most likely way that you are going to get pinched is through bad packaging, and with something like brownies, I don't think you'd need to worry (unless they are super stinky of course  ;) ).

If you normally receive mail to Jack Johnson, and suddenly a letter or package shows up for J Johnson, you do realize that looks EXTREMELY suspicious to postal workers right?

Like, they will easily realize you used an initial for "peace of mind" because you're paranoid... it's rare that people address mail this way so it sticks out like a sore thumb.

What possible reason would you have for using a "slight variation" on your name?????????? Please, explain to me what is going on in your head, that makes you think that's a good idea in ANY way?? Explain, please!

THEY HAVE A FUCKING DATABASE OF EVERY NAME AND ADDRESS COMBINATION THAT HAS EVER RECEIVED MAIL.

THE PEOPLE THAT DELIVER YOUR MAIL ARE HUMAN BEINGS WHO REMEMBER THINGS AND OBSERVE THINGS, SUCH AS WHO LIVES WHERE AND HOW THEIR NAMES ARE SPELLED.


The slight variation that I spoke of was not changing or misspelling any part of the name, just dropping part of it. Like I said in my example, going from Jack Johnson to a Mr. J Johnson. Still the same name, but doesn't have their full first name.

The reason to do this has to do with peace of mind of the buyer. I'll totally admit it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme changing it slightly like that, but some people don't feel comfortable giving their full given name to some drug dealer on the internet whom they've never met IRL. There's no added security in doing it this way, but it does make some people I know who use SR feel more comfortable.

If the package did rip open, it would just look like your mother had sent you some home made brownies. Nothing wrong with that. No pills would fall out, no powerdery substance, no dime bag. Just some delicious looking brownies.

Well, if the package rips open, it should contain a SMALLER, sealed, opaque package which also has the name & address on it. Never send illicit goods through the mail without at least double, if not quadruple enveloping or packaging it.

I've had a  package with drugs delivered, which was shipped in two envelopes, rip open and because it was something non-drug looking, USPS put it into one of their envelopes that basically says "Sorry we fucked up your package. Here is your package." Ordering edibles falls into this category. I was trying to lessen the OPs fear because he was ordering something that most people think of as non-drug, and even if the worst-case scenario were to happene like it did to me, he'd be in a better situation than if a pills or powder were present.
 

Having extra people handle any package adds more risk though, and having things sit in a po box that "smell" is never the best idea.

How does it add more risk?

Really? You don't see how having more people handle your illegal drug's being shipped through the mail can cause more risk? What's more risky, buying face to face from a dealer, or having a friend buy your drugs then deliver them? How about two separate friends? How about three?

With regards to a mailed package, each person sorting and deliverying your mail can have their own agenda, see something which they think looks suspecious, or notice a pattern of packages being sent to you, thus adding more risk. It's fairly straightforward concept.

my 10 cents.

Please, think before you type.

How about you try to not to be a jerk before you type.