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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: nameless2 on March 24, 2012, 10:37 am

Title: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: nameless2 on March 24, 2012, 10:37 am
Hello, are there any drugs to use without harming your body?
I mean like alcohol.

Ketamin/MXE seem to be very harmful.
All other drugs triggers pimples, damage the nose or something.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: N1ghtmare on March 24, 2012, 10:41 am
Alcohol is NOT harmless at all.

In fact, it's actually one of the most harmful drugs out there. Physically and socially.

I know LSD causes absolutely no damage to the body. Same as shrooms.
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: nameless2 on March 24, 2012, 10:52 am
Okay, thank you.
Any other drugs?
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: 328502E on March 24, 2012, 07:04 pm
GHB
some psychedelics (LSD, shrooms, etc)
Opiates

Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: OOTOMXYZOO on March 24, 2012, 07:19 pm
mdma i think and weed exept for the lungs part am i right?
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: 328502E on March 24, 2012, 07:33 pm
mdma i think and weed exept for the lungs part am i right?

Nope.
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: obfuscator on March 24, 2012, 08:13 pm
meth
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: marv on March 24, 2012, 08:52 pm
Every drug will have some effect on your overall system, but the body is well equipped to deal with these disturbance if they are not overwhelming.

Even alcohol is not so bad, and could actually be beneficial, in the right amounts.

Cliche, but it's all in moderation.
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: wretched on March 24, 2012, 09:51 pm
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Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: jochem on March 24, 2012, 09:58 pm
Anything in excess will cause damage (think about people drinking too much water). A lot of stuff in moderation is fine (most drugs). Some stuff will damage you even if you take a little (some radiation).

A lot of drugs will be totally fine if you take the right amount and don't make a habit out of it. If one can keep to the right amount and not get addicted, really depends on the user.
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: Technician on March 24, 2012, 10:31 pm
Huffing household cleaners.
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: joywind on March 25, 2012, 05:19 am
LSD is physiologically non-toxic. It's probably the safest drug you can consume. Psilocybin  is also relatively non-toxic.

There is evidence that MDMA, methamphetamine, cocaine, ketamine, and PCP can cause brain damage.

Marijuana smoke contains about fifty percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco, and may lead to lung cancer. Long-term excessive marijuana use has also been associated with persistent cognitive deficits.
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: Nonyabiz on March 25, 2012, 05:37 am
The theory behind DXM and MDMA's brain damage is the Olney's Lesions caused by Serotonin being released and no longer regenerating. So it's not a "hole" in your brain per say but rather an empty gap that's not healing. Still, like already stated your body is built to recover because they can be a huge body load.

But to answer your question, vaporizing Cannabis is virtually no damage, Psilocybin, LSD and Mescaline have virtually no toxicity as well. DMT is pretty natural so they all have almost no potential for health problems other than what might happen to you while you're on said drugs.

There's also the legal stuff, I don't think Kratom has any adverse side effects but I hear the really isn't any impressive side effects to begun with.

Most hallucinogenic cause your body to build up a strong tolerance anyways with daily use so if you don't build one of those up I doubt you're doing enough drugs to harm yourself.

That's not saying you might feel like you're harming yourself if you puke, just remember the Ayahuasca purging rule: It's cleansing out your body of a more unhealthy intoxicant; negativity!
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: wt on March 25, 2012, 09:31 am
LSD is physiologically non-toxic. It's probably the safest drug you can consume. Psilocybin  is also relatively non-toxic.

There is evidence that MDMA, methamphetamine, cocaine, ketamine, and PCP can cause brain damage.

Marijuana smoke contains about fifty percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco, and may lead to lung cancer. Long-term excessive marijuana use has also been associated with persistent cognitive deficits.

Yup, all my reading has pointed to LSD and mushrooms being physiologically safe (psychologically risky thought).  Check out the excellent book 'Buzzed' by Kuhn et al.  - It goes through a lot of the most recent research on drug toxicity
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: nameless2 on March 25, 2012, 12:59 pm
meth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HarmCausedByDrugsTable.svg
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: Tryptamine on March 25, 2012, 04:09 pm
DMT, 4HODMT, 5MEODMT, LSD, Ibogaine
2C-X, DO-X, mescaline, 2C-X-NBOMe, MDxx/bk-MDxx (at reasonable doses).

These are all easily metabolized by endogenous enzymes and can be used without causing lasting damage. I would go as far as to say that occasional use of the aforementioned can actually have beneficial effects on your neurological functioning.
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: joywind on March 25, 2012, 06:25 pm
Weed is about the most non-toxic drug on earth. If you're worried about smoke, vaporize instead. The only thing I can think of that you can't vape is salvia, honestly.
Marijuana smoke is toxic, actually. That doesn't necessarily mean it is as bad as smoking tobacco, but it isn't exactly healthy either. Inhaling any plant smoke is probably not good for your lungs.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071217110328.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090615095940.htm




Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: mcgrizzle on March 25, 2012, 11:32 pm
check this out
http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/11/drugs_cause_most_harm
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: Nonyabiz on March 26, 2012, 03:21 am
Salvia can be vaporized, just not with your typical vaporizer because it has a painfully high flashpoint.
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: Aliahad on March 26, 2012, 04:16 am
check this out
http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/11/drugs_cause_most_harm

meth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HarmCausedByDrugsTable.svg

I really hope you guys think that it's so simple that you could put it on a graph like that. Most things are safe in moderation. Some things are safer than others but in the end how you use the drug is more important than the drug itself.

@OP See prior statement but if you're looking for some drugs that are physically harmless you should look into LSD or Psilocybin. But again as I said, everything is safe if you're responsible and use moderation.
Title: Re: Any drugs without physical damage?
Post by: happyroller1234 on March 26, 2012, 05:04 am
DMT, 4HODMT, 5MEODMT, LSD, Ibogaine
2C-X, DO-X, mescaline, 2C-X-NBOMe, MDxx/bk-MDxx (at reasonable doses).

These are all easily metabolized by endogenous enzymes and can be used without causing lasting damage. I would go as far as to say that occasional use of the aforementioned can actually have beneficial effects on your neurological functioning.

Why didn't you include psilocybin in this list?