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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: quinone on March 03, 2012, 11:35 pm
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Has anyone tried Estazolam and how did you find it compared to other benzos?
Did you find it to be more or less one whose only practical purpose is as a delta wave induction hypnotic (BENZO SLEEP AID). Having tried flunitrazepam (YES YES I know what it is ! lol) I found it hard to enjoy other elements of a benzo high due to the powerful delta wave sedating effects. I'm interested in getting my hands on some again actually if I see it up here, but being the 'date rate drug' (flunitrazepam = rohypnol) it's been rare on SR.
There are 1mg estazolam's listed at an extremely cheap price, so if any benzo users who've used it can give me your experiences i'd appreciate it (don't even utter a word about benzo equivalency chart, asking for personal experiences pls :) .. that and I doubt you have a clue how to interpret the BEC as no one seems to heh.
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strange, that is one I have never actually heard of before.
Since the rhesus monkeys like it, I am sure you will too :)
If anyone has experience Id also be curious to hear about the subjective effects
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I don't get Benzo's....I never get high of them...FUCKING Maintenance man in my Building...stole two bottles of XANEX from me.... (about 180 pills)
I take 3-Xanex at night..has ZERO "high" effect...Only thing I've got high from is Ambien---when I take that...and if I drink a couple of Soda's after it (to make sure I stay awake)---I'll start to trip like Shrooms---it's a known side effect, thus why they created the XR version.
If you see a Doc...make sure he DOES NOT prescribe the XR version (just make up something---"I have a hard time falling asleep and need to fall asleep quicker or whatever)---and you can use it as you would Shrooms (Google it, I'm not b.Sng you...just gotta figure out a way to over ride the drug/making you fall asleep---
When I first started taking it...I couldn't make it from the sofa to the bedroom in less than 15-minutes..after my body was use to it....I could drink a few Sodas...and trip for a good hour before going to sleep,. GOOD STUFF
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I don't get Benzo's....I never get high of them...FUCKING Maintenance man in my Building...stole two bottles of XANEX from me.... (about 180 pills)
I take 3-Xanex at night..has ZERO "high" effect...Only thing I've got high from is Ambien---when I take that...and if I drink a couple of Soda's after it (to make sure I stay awake)---I'll start to trip like Shrooms---it's a known side effect, thus why they created the XR version.
If you see a Doc...make sure he DOES NOT prescribe the XR version (just make up something---"I have a hard time falling asleep and need to fall asleep quicker or whatever)---and you can use it as you would Shrooms (Google it, I'm not b.Sng you...just gotta figure out a way to over ride the drug/making you fall asleep---
When I first started taking it...I couldn't make it from the sofa to the bedroom in less than 15-minutes..after my body was use to it....I could drink a few Sodas...and trip for a good hour before going to sleep,. GOOD STUFF
By the way, here in the USA--it's pretty easy to get Adderall---just tell a Psychiatrist you are always tired during the day, feel like you're gonna fall asleep, etc.
It's called Hypersomnolence---probably don't want to use Dr. Speak though--as he'll know you're "shopping", whatever you do, don't let them give you Modafinil ( Provigil )---it's a WUSS drug--I took the stuff and could lay down on the Sofa and Fall asleep..
Adderall makes you feel like freaking GOLDEN GOD!! I mean, you'll feel like you can clean the house, paint the house, paint the neighbors house, mow the lawn, mow the neighbors lawn---I mean it's FUCKING AWESOME---especially if you really do need to concentrate on something...you'll have LASER focus....but you'll also be hyper as shit....fidgety.
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I don't get Benzo's....I never get high of them...FUCKING Maintenance man in my Building...stole two bottles of XANEX from me.... (about 180 pills)
I take 3-Xanex at night..has ZERO "high" effect...Only thing I've got high from is Ambien---when I take that...and if I drink a couple of Soda's after it (to make sure I stay awake)---I'll start to trip like Shrooms---it's a known side effect, thus why they created the XR version.
If you see a Doc...make sure he DOES NOT prescribe the XR version (just make up something---"I have a hard time falling asleep and need to fall asleep quicker or whatever)---and you can use it as you would Shrooms (Google it, I'm not b.Sng you...just gotta figure out a way to over ride the drug/making you fall asleep---
When I first started taking it...I couldn't make it from the sofa to the bedroom in less than 15-minutes..after my body was use to it....I could drink a few Sodas...and trip for a good hour before going to sleep,. GOOD STUFF
By the way, here in the USA--it's pretty easy to get Adderall---just tell a Psychiatrist you are always tired during the day, feel like you're gonna fall asleep, etc.
It's called Hypersomnolence---probably don't want to use Dr. Speak though--as he'll know you're "shopping", whatever you do, don't let them give you Modafinil ( Provigil )---it's a WUSS drug--I took the stuff and could lay down on the Sofa and Fall asleep..
Adderall makes you feel like freaking GOLDEN GOD!! I mean, you'll feel like you can clean the house, paint the house, paint the neighbors house, mow the lawn, mow the neighbors lawn---I mean it's FUCKING AWESOME---especially if you really do need to concentrate on something...you'll have LASER focus....but you'll also be hyper as shit....fidgety.
Yeah that's the prob, you can't 'shop' in my country as we have socialized healthcare. It took me several years to find a new 'family doctor' after mine retired. I've now finally got a reliable neurologist and psychiatrist as well, but to get to see those doc's required my family doctor send a referral to them first, and then there's a wait period of about 3-6 months on average before the doctor contacts you (our province is also overrun with a GP shortage atm).
I actually do speak the "doctor talk" right from the get go with any new doc, mostly cuz i'm trained enough that I can carry on such a discussion for as long as needed and typically have found the doc's were more apt to do something new cuz having a 'casual doctor chat' show's genuine interest in finding the root cause of whatever i'm there for. Typically i'm not at these doctors to extort drugs for recreation either lol and it takes ... a while to describe the complete context and history of my medical complications.
Doc's in my area (or at least all the doc's i've seen in my life) are extremely hesitant to prescribe narcotics, usually not going beyond T3s unless absolutely necessary. I filled very few oxycontin scripts a few years ago when I worked in a pharmacy in between jobs. I'm sure it depends on the doc you get and your intentions with that doc.
I've had a mild curiosity in trying Adderall for a while now and probably will one of these day's now that I can get it off SR, but stayed away because it's a stimulant. I have pretty severe GAD and SAD (general and social anxiety disorder) which is why i'm on benzo's in the first place heh. My doc gives me clonazepam which is great but I shot myself in the foot a year back by voluntarily cutting my dose drastically over 2 months to try and remove as many meds from my life as needed and then told him I did. Bad idea as my 2mg twice daily turned into 0.5mg once or twice daily PRN. I love taking benzo's for recreation too though cuz I find with their relatively long half-lives, having a recreational night I can hold off on taking any benzo period for several day's easy. Tolerance almost reset's completely when you stay clean for 4-5 days, and pretty quickly with clonazepam (at least for me it does), not necessarily alprazolam or the higher benzo's (harder to say as ive had years to play around with clonazepam, but not most others).
Not sure if Adderall would antagonize an anxiety condition or not, but I like to take Kratom for day's I want to get lot's done. Gives me a great MILD opiate buzz, energy and the actual will to do things.
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I take benzo's because they produce effects opposite of being 'high'. I smoke a bowl if I want to get high, I take a benzo if I want/need to relax/calm down and NOT be high. I've noticed too that the effect's are very situationally based. If I take a good dose of a benzo and stay at home playing a video game I usually don't feel high at all, maybe a tiny bit when I stand up from the chair, but sitting, nothing. If I go out and am with/around other people it's not just that I get more talkative, but I get 'high' (feel fucking great, a euphoria of some kind, it's just not a sharp, 'jarring' physiological change like opiates for example).
We all have our drugs of choice :) (and our perceived drugs of poison, eg. I consider Meth absolutely disgusting ... for me, but if that's your drug of preference I still wouldn't judge you ... or that SWIM guy that seems so popular :D).