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Title: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 17, 2013, 04:59 am
I have access to the LSD analog AL-LAD. I could make it available on blotter paper for roughly around the same price as LSD costs. What is the interest in this here? I figure this a very rare and prized chemical but I want to confirm before I throw my dough at it.
I will be happy to post lab results once it's for sale, and I encourage others to test it as well.
You can read more here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AL-LAD
and here:
https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal01.shtml
Peace
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: thegalactica420 on May 17, 2013, 05:30 am
YES!!!!!!!!!!! Thats quite literally the one chemical that has always fascinated me that was just never available. Do you know what the dosage would be?
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Pax on May 17, 2013, 06:54 am
I SECOND THAT YES!!!    I could +1 this thread everyday for the rest of the year and still not express how interested I am, By chance do you have any or could obtain some ALD-52. I made a thread a few months ago requesting that and other drugs similar to it and LSD. But I am super interested in ALD-52 let me know?
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: echo_ on May 17, 2013, 12:24 pm
Would buy a sheet.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: oldcactushand on May 17, 2013, 04:54 pm
Interested.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: quorth on May 17, 2013, 05:14 pm
Would buy some blooters, if you ship overseas.

cheers!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 17, 2013, 06:39 pm
Ok. Will definitely work on getting this in my hands. I got a sample coming and as soon as I'm sure on it I'll get some quantity to sell.
I will not need to ship overseas as I have a highly rated EU LSD vendor that will be handling that side of the pond. :)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: AnimusVox on May 17, 2013, 06:56 pm
+1 for interest, consider me on completely on board.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on May 17, 2013, 08:26 pm
Have been waiting for this one for a long time! No idea how you got your hands on this one, figured no labs would ever take the time to make it instead of the more established chemicals. Good job, +1
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: quorth on May 17, 2013, 10:42 pm
I will not need to ship overseas as I have a highly rated EU LSD vendor that will be handling that side of the pond. :)

I through you was in the old Continent. ;D
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Crack Fox on May 18, 2013, 01:42 am
what country will you ship from? can i just say i would do nasty nasty things to get some of this :), i've been waiting for 8 years. if it is top,  my 'ol buddies will want some as well of what everyone has heard about, & tried to buy but gets nbome or dox

price? lsd is quite expensive here.. either way count me in ;)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 18, 2013, 03:15 am
I ship from USA. Jannis will be shipping from the EU (if all goes as planned) :)
You can find my profile here:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/98da200440
Will probably be a couple weeks before I have it in stock.
Price will be slightly less than regular LSD prices.
I have access to quite a large amount so I should be able to keep it stocked for a nice long time!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on May 18, 2013, 03:18 am
DUDE FUCK YES I would buy a whole sheet of that shit, so novel man. I know I couldnt find it anywhere else lol
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: anonypunk on May 18, 2013, 03:47 am
I've never heard of anyone in my circle getting this so if it tests out I'm down for a full sheet as well.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Pax on May 18, 2013, 07:04 am
I ship from USA. Jannis will be shipping from the EU (if all goes as planned) :)
You can find my profile here:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/98da200440
Will probably be a couple weeks before I have it in stock.
Price will be slightly less than regular LSD prices.
I have access to quite a large amount so I should be able to keep it stocked for a nice long time!
I like you judgement Jannis is a legit and reliable vendor but most importantly he is honest.I am in The USA but if I was in the EU I would have no issue with ordering from him good choice +1 for that as well
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 20, 2013, 07:58 pm
In the works. Expect my listing to hit in ~1 week.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Sc0t1and_Y4rdi3 on May 23, 2013, 08:27 pm
Selling this is selling on the mass market which is what G didn't want
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Sero Tonin on May 23, 2013, 09:03 pm
i know on your page is says unperforated?
any chance that could be done?
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 24, 2013, 12:47 am
@Sc0t1and_Y4rdi3: I have personally obtained permission to vend this here. Ask the man yourself. He didn't want it sold on the mass RC market, which is quite different. Mass RC market in his parts means spice/bath salts/etc being sold in gas stations and other place I believe, also maybe LHG style boards? He was about to throw his own listing up when I ran my plans by him and he was cool with it.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Boostedh on May 24, 2013, 01:09 am
Any way to keep it in liquid?  I believe this is what was being sold in my area a few months ago.  Its almost an LSD trip with NO bodyload.  (which in my opinion sucks) 
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 24, 2013, 01:44 am
I highly doubt it was the same as being sold in your area. Its very rare and a complex synth. From what I've seen so far its LSD-like but lasts about 6 hours. Liquid may be possible if this first batch sells well.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: wavelength on May 24, 2013, 03:14 am
wow yeah if you are from the us, i will DEFINITELY pick some of that up. it's so rare and exotic, the thought of it alone would play into my trip in such a positive way  :D
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 24, 2013, 05:37 am
Yes I am vending USA. My profile is here: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/98da200440
Check back in a few days.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Twelve_Pickles on May 24, 2013, 10:59 am
Subing for interest and updates. trip reports on erowid are fascinating and i would love to try this rare psych at least once =]
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Boostedh on May 24, 2013, 02:15 pm
Was told by my supplier it was AL-LAD.  Was in liquid form in a certain Breathemint bottle.  If possible, save one listing, Because i'd like to compare it to what I thought I had. 
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on May 24, 2013, 05:10 pm
Just curious, would you have access to any other novel LSD analogues?
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 24, 2013, 06:09 pm
Yes I do but those will come next. I have never heard of any other person synthing AL-LAD and putting in breathmint bottles. Did it have a duration of 5-6 hours? Seems to be what we have determined so far.
I have seen the LC/MS, HLPR results and had them checked by an expert as I don't know what those graphs mean. Anyone who would like to see them (please only ask if you know how to read it) I can pass them along!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on May 24, 2013, 06:12 pm
sweet man, that is just awesome, I will grab at least 10-20 hits of each one you come on here with ;)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 24, 2013, 06:35 pm
Found a mighty fine trip report here:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-108592.html
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: WeSaySo on May 24, 2013, 08:31 pm
wtf are you talking about?
I know of 5 third world countries where this is on the shelf right now.
I can provide the full CoA on all 5.

Why do you think you can get it?

Its available to anyone who can wire 800 bucks to Belgium.


I highly doubt it was the same as being sold in your area. Its very rare and a complex synth. From what I've seen so far its LSD-like but lasts about 6 hours. Liquid may be possible if this first batch sells well.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 25, 2013, 01:31 am
Anyway, I just tested 225ug of my sample, and yes this is mighty fine stuff fellas! Feels like some clean acid but I notice a much more auditory effect. I can hear exceptionally well... Body high, wavy visuals, no body load. Yes this is a winner. Next time I want to take more. :)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on May 25, 2013, 05:14 am
...getting anxious... Holy shit I am ready =D
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 25, 2013, 03:12 pm
It definitely lasts longer than 6 hours though.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: WeSaySo on May 25, 2013, 07:54 pm
Some careless leaking of info has been happening.
So a plan was hatched to start tracking a few things.
The AL-LAD info was injected at 2 points ~ a month ago.
One point is supposedly a girl and one is a guy.

These points were chosen because they both do not know their ass from a hole in the ground
and they both are busybodies known to constantly PM vendors in both public and private scenes, finding tidbits of info
and passing them along.

AL-LAD info was given along with a "supposedly" kosher way of mailing it past customs.
AL-LAD was chosen because its widely available and some people may think its not analogous to LSD, but it is.

The glass ampoule it comes in will always raise suspicion to customs although info was given to make
them think the "special" shipping would make it through customs.

Customs for sure tested the glass ampoule and for sure let it through.

The plan has showed some very fast results and has worked well and was retaliatory for other similar things that have happened.

beware.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 25, 2013, 08:30 pm
WeSaySo: Why constantly post cryptic messages rather than answering my PM to explain? What does anyone need to beware about? How do you even know that my AL-LAD is coming from any of your sources? I doubt it is, but needless to say I don't see what are you rambling on about. At this point I feel like you are just trolling the thread. Guess it's time to just ignore it.

Of course its analogous to LSD. That's the point.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: HEATFan on May 26, 2013, 12:00 am
Do you know what the prices will be like and approximately when it will be listed?
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: atlas on May 26, 2013, 12:37 am
Definitely interested!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: WeSaySo on May 26, 2013, 07:45 pm
Dude I think you know exactly what Im talking about. Im not being cryptic at all, I guess I could starting names is this what you really want?
I told you exactly how you have AL-LAD. As if it were some coincidence.
If you think Im another L vendor trying to get rid of you your wrong.
I wouldnt sell AL-LAD anyway.

I'm bringing this out because I thought it was funny that you ended up here
so happy you had this when you dont really know whats going on behind the scenes.

As for you using my sources, I have none, I do not buy chemicals from overseas.

And Im sure youll just happily go along your way as your Valedictorian of the Nelson school of darknet.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 26, 2013, 09:22 pm
Alright, still lost. Giving it up now.

Should be listed this week guys.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: commodore64 on May 27, 2013, 09:39 pm
Alright, still lost. Giving it up now.

Should be listed this week guys.
prices?
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Lucius Luv on May 28, 2013, 12:33 am
Yes.. PLEASE bring these chemicals to the road.  i am interested in LSM too, i heard that was going around via the private scene.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Electric Paper on May 29, 2013, 01:16 am
I would love to try some AL-LAD. Also any other LSD analogues would be cool as well.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: HEATFan on May 29, 2013, 02:09 am
Such as ALD-52. I wonder if anyone even makes that anymore.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on May 29, 2013, 02:14 am
If I knew how to make LSD I would make all those novel lysergic's =p I have a guide, but I need a little more chemistry knowledge
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: sleepyg on May 29, 2013, 03:01 am
Very interested in trying AL-LAD mostly due to it's similarity to Lucy with a shorter duration. I am excited to grab some of this rare compound.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: AdventureTime5 on May 29, 2013, 03:14 am
+1 very very interested to get my hands on some of this!!!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: GGGreenbud on May 29, 2013, 03:48 pm
+1  It's interesting that you mentioned auditory effects from AL-LAD, because I got an extremely potent batch of (what I thought was) LSD-25 from a laboratory once, and it was very auditory.  The guy who sold it to me never explicitly said that it was LSD-25, just that he had gotten it from the producer.   I feel like the Ergolines are like the orphaned children of psychedelics, because LSD/LSA are the only ones that have a real presence on the scene.  I'd be down for LSB, ALD-52, LSZ, ETH-LAD, etc.  I'm certain that new compounds will be discovered in this class, sometime in the near future.   So far, only nichols and shulgin have gotten into really fiddling with the structure, and there are only 10-12 ergolines which have high potency, this number should be at LEAST 150 or so compounds which are active.   The only way to increase supply, is to provide demand.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Boostedh on May 29, 2013, 07:26 pm
Been almost a week now, and I've been checking on this thread constantly.  Hope to hear some updates on this soon, an hopefully get a sample. 
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: AdventureTime5 on May 29, 2013, 07:40 pm
WOuld be so so so so interested in a sample of this stuff. Always wanted to give it a go.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on May 30, 2013, 03:11 am
I think we are still waiting due to some postal issues
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 30, 2013, 06:20 am
Leave it to good ol' USPS to fuck it up. Sorry guys but it will be up as soon as I get my hands on it.
I got a reship coming now so one way or another it will be here, just maybe not as soon as I expected.

For those asking about the LSM-775. YES I will be selling this eventually too. My source has not begun to distribute it yet but as soon as it's ready I will bring it to the table.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: icm on May 30, 2013, 10:40 am
just out of curiousity, do you have any supporting documentation - analysis of any sort? Would love to see this on the market if its real.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Andromeda on May 30, 2013, 11:44 am
I SECOND THAT YES!!!    I could +1 this thread everyday for the rest of the year and still not express how interested I am, By chance do you have any or could obtain some ALD-52. I made a thread a few months ago requesting that and other drugs similar to it and LSD. But I am super interested in ALD-52 let me know?
Hello. I don't know if you knew this, but ALD-52 is an analogue of LSD. In order to make ALD-52, you have to take existing LSD and do another chemical step to it.

ALD-52 is less potent than lsd, and the effects are also less, so is the duration.
ALD-52 also hydrolyses easily into LSD, and seeing as how the body is made of mostly water, will hydrolise into LSD in your body.
Or if you leave it out of an inert atmosphere (AKA on blotter paper) for a bit longer than 10 minutes.
Save your time and money, and stick to LSD.

Also, NOBODY will waste good LSD to make ALD-52. It's not profitable.


Just a word of advice here,

Peace and Love,
The Andromeda Group.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Andromeda on May 30, 2013, 12:32 pm
If I knew how to make LSD I would make all those novel lysergic's =p I have a guide, but I need a little more chemistry knowledge

It's not chemistry knowledge you need as much as the precursors. Making lsd is, contrary to popular belif, quite easy. Acquiring the precursors? Not so much.
If you are to procure the precursors yourself, you'll need to know a lot about microbiology, chemistry, and various other sciences, not just ochem. The reason for this is that often times you'll need to make the precursors yourself. Or make the precursors to make the precursors. Or make the precursors for the precursors for the precursors.

The main issue is getting lysergic acid. after lysergic acid, it's a relatively straightforward to get d-lsd. However, lysergic acid is hard to get. You'll either be fermenting dangerously toxic species of claviceps paspali, working with radiation, or totally synthesizing it, which also isn't easy.

Just to put it into perspective, the lab notes on the total synthesis of lysergic acid diethlyamide is about 25 pages.
Anyways, if you can get lysergic acid somehow (I reccomend fermenting a mutated strain of claviceps paspali, and running it through a column) You need to get the chemicals to actually make LSD from that.
All while working in an inert atmosphere. Under a red light.
Oh, the synthesis takes a few days, as well- you gotta be up for that- and doing meth to stay up wont work, as if you fuck up, well you're going to die. (Lysergic acid is toxic. Ergot derivatives cause gangrene. Diethlyamide i causes cancer. and kills you. an inert atmosphere will asphyxiate you if not properly contained.)

Basically, if you want to make LSD, you need lab EXPERIENCE more than anything else. You could teach a monkey to follow the steps, if only it had a few years of experience.


Good luck with your endeavors, don't get yourself killed.


Peace and Love,
The andromeda Group.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: doomsdayguy on May 30, 2013, 12:36 pm

Hello. I don't know if you knew this, but ALD-52 is an analogue of LSD. In order to make ALD-52, you have to take existing LSD and do another chemical step to it.

ALD-52 is less potent than lsd, and the effects are also less, so is the duration.
ALD-52 also hydrolyses easily into LSD, and seeing as how the body is made of mostly water, will hydrolise into LSD in your body.
Or if you leave it out of an inert atmosphere (AKA on blotter paper) for a bit longer than 10 minutes.
Save your time and money, and stick to LSD.

Also, NOBODY will waste good LSD to make ALD-52. It's not profitable.


Just a word of advice here,

Peace and Love,
The Andromeda Group.

Except when someone is actually trying to create a novel substance. ALD-52 doesn't degrade at all in the body, it has its own psychoactive effects independent from LSD.

If I knew how to make LSD I would make all those novel lysergic's =p I have a guide, but I need a little more chemistry knowledge

It's not chemistry knowledge you need as much as the precursors. Making lsd is, contrary to popular belif, quite easy. Acquiring the precursors? Not so much.
If you are to procure the precursors yourself, you'll need to know a lot about microbiology, chemistry, and various other sciences, not just ochem. The reason for this is that often times you'll need to make the precursors yourself. Or make the precursors to make the precursors. Or make the precursors for the precursors for the precursors.

The main issue is getting lysergic acid. after lysergic acid, it's a relatively straightforward to get d-lsd. However, lysergic acid is hard to get. You'll either be fermenting dangerously toxic species of claviceps paspali, working with radiation, or totally synthesizing it, which also isn't easy.

Just to put it into perspective, the lab notes on the total synthesis of lysergic acid diethlyamide is about 25 pages.
Anyways, if you can get lysergic acid somehow (I reccomend fermenting a mutated strain of claviceps paspali, and running it through a column) You need to get the chemicals to actually make LSD from that.
All while working in an inert atmosphere. Under a red light.
Oh, the synthesis takes a few days, as well- you gotta be up for that- and doing meth to stay up wont work, as if you fuck up, well you're going to die. (Lysergic acid is toxic. Ergot derivatives cause gangrene. Diethlyamide i causes cancer. and kills you. an inert atmosphere will asphyxiate you if not properly contained.)

Basically, if you want to make LSD, you need lab EXPERIENCE more than anything else. You could teach a monkey to follow the steps, if only it had a few years of experience.


Good luck with your endeavors, don't get yourself killed.


Peace and Love,
The andromeda Group.

It's 50% chemistry knowledge and 50% knowing someone to get the right shit. This isn't the 1970's when we can just go out and buy Lysergic Acid and perform the 2 step process Owsley used to do with diethylamide. Part of the synth has to be done in complete darkness, the equipment needed for a full synthesis from ergot is in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, and a TON of experience is required. You can't train a monkey to do it. It really is a delicate process that requires a degree or two.

Thanks for keeping us updated envioso.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Andromeda on May 30, 2013, 02:59 pm

Hello. I don't know if you knew this, but ALD-52 is an analogue of LSD. In order to make ALD-52, you have to take existing LSD and do another chemical step to it.

ALD-52 is less potent than lsd, and the effects are also less, so is the duration.
ALD-52 also hydrolyses easily into LSD, and seeing as how the body is made of mostly water, will hydrolise into LSD in your body.
Or if you leave it out of an inert atmosphere (AKA on blotter paper) for a bit longer than 10 minutes.
Save your time and money, and stick to LSD.

Also, NOBODY will waste good LSD to make ALD-52. It's not profitable.


Just a word of advice here,

Peace and Love,
The Andromeda Group.

Except when someone is actually trying to create a novel substance. ALD-52 doesn't degrade at all in the body, it has its own psychoactive effects independent from LSD.

If I knew how to make LSD I would make all those novel lysergic's =p I have a guide, but I need a little more chemistry knowledge

It's not chemistry knowledge you need as much as the precursors. Making lsd is, contrary to popular belif, quite easy. Acquiring the precursors? Not so much.
If you are to procure the precursors yourself, you'll need to know a lot about microbiology, chemistry, and various other sciences, not just ochem. The reason for this is that often times you'll need to make the precursors yourself. Or make the precursors to make the precursors. Or make the precursors for the precursors for the precursors.

The main issue is getting lysergic acid. after lysergic acid, it's a relatively straightforward to get d-lsd. However, lysergic acid is hard to get. You'll either be fermenting dangerously toxic species of claviceps paspali, working with radiation, or totally synthesizing it, which also isn't easy.

Just to put it into perspective, the lab notes on the total synthesis of lysergic acid diethlyamide is about 25 pages.
Anyways, if you can get lysergic acid somehow (I reccomend fermenting a mutated strain of claviceps paspali, and running it through a column) You need to get the chemicals to actually make LSD from that.
All while working in an inert atmosphere. Under a red light.
Oh, the synthesis takes a few days, as well- you gotta be up for that- and doing meth to stay up wont work, as if you fuck up, well you're going to die. (Lysergic acid is toxic. Ergot derivatives cause gangrene. Diethlyamide i causes cancer. and kills you. an inert atmosphere will asphyxiate you if not properly contained.)

Basically, if you want to make LSD, you need lab EXPERIENCE more than anything else. You could teach a monkey to follow the steps, if only it had a few years of experience.


Good luck with your endeavors, don't get yourself killed.


Peace and Love,
The andromeda Group.

It's 50% chemistry knowledge and 50% knowing someone to get the right shit. This isn't the 1970's when we can just go out and buy Lysergic Acid and perform the 2 step process Owsley used to do with diethylamide. Part of the synth has to be done in complete darkness, the equipment needed for a full synthesis from ergot is in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, and a TON of experience is required. You can't train a monkey to do it. It really is a delicate process that requires a degree or two.

Thanks for keeping us updated envioso.

You clearly did not read my post. You also clearly know nothing about the synthesis of LSD, now do you?
Please, educate yourself before spreading disinformation.
It does NOT take "hundreds of thousands of dollars" worth of equipment to make LSD.
I'm not even going to begin addressing what's wrong with everything you just said.
Just read up on multiple synthesis, and you'll see how it's done.

Perhaps, you can try it yourself once you understand everything.

Knowing people is useful, but not necessary. Just... read my post.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 30, 2013, 04:42 pm
just out of curiousity, do you have any supporting documentation - analysis of any sort? Would love to see this on the market if its real.

Yeah I do man. heres the info you want. I don't know how to read it but I had a friend who knows his shit take a look and he said its legit.
Lab test results:
HNMR: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7-a.jpg
MS1: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7-h.jpg
MS2: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7-3.jpg
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: khorne flake on May 30, 2013, 05:58 pm
Definitely would buy at least 5 sheets if this is the real deal
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 30, 2013, 06:24 pm
I encourage everyone who buys it to do their own lab testing. I am positive it's legit.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: icm on May 30, 2013, 09:28 pm
just out of curiousity, do you have any supporting documentation - analysis of any sort? Would love to see this on the market if its real.

Yeah I do man. heres the info you want. I don't know how to read it but I had a friend who knows his shit take a look and he said its legit.
Lab test results:
HNMR: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7-a.jpg
MS1: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7-h.jpg
MS2: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/7-3.jpg

Thank you very much! You will be hearing from me once its in stock!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on May 30, 2013, 09:52 pm
Yes I hear you Andromeda, I am aware of most of that shit, haha it is more of a crazy dream than a set goal ya know. But interesting nontheless to read the labnotes. I do have a friend I know personally who can get certain supplies out of Chicago, but just 1, and he is also organic chem major. But if I ever attempted, I would probably start with LSA, as its way less dangerous to aquire, eventhough the yeild is reduced significantly (I wouldnt be trying to make mad money, itd be more of real clandestine small scale thing if and when I could ever do it). But any of that is like years away, as I do not even live in a good enough building to be able to do anything like that. I am going to make sum DMT soon though =) I am excited for that =)

Oh yess and I would never smoke meth, and can stay up for 3 to 4 days in a row with my own willpower while even smoking weed, so heyy who knows?? Lols
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: blueheff on May 30, 2013, 10:24 pm
I would love to try this,  I have never seen any in person
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 31, 2013, 03:24 am
Now in stock! You can find my listing here: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/e691d11626
Adios.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: HEATFan on May 31, 2013, 03:36 am
What's with the latest feedback?

1 of 5    ya me or my wife didnt trip i took 3 tabs wife took 2 feel like it was nbome or something like that but it came fast    23 hours
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on May 31, 2013, 03:57 am
What's with the latest feedback?

1 of 5    ya me or my wife didnt trip i took 3 tabs wife took 2 feel like it was nbome or something like that but it came fast    23 hours

This shit pisses me off, what a waste of good lsd. I'm not saying this person didn't trip, I know nothing of the situation, but to insinuate that one of the most trusted lsd sellers here decided to sell 5 tabs of nbome to you is just ridiculous. It is of a pretty well known and tested print too, so envious ran out of acid and had one more 5 tab order so he decided to get a blank sheet of the same print he was selling and lay it in nbome just for less than a single bitcoin? Fucking ridiculous. Some shitty grammar too.

But back on topic: Fuck yeah, AL-LAD! Gonna get some coins and try it out for myself asap.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 31, 2013, 04:05 am
What's with the latest feedback?

1 of 5    ya me or my wife didnt trip i took 3 tabs wife took 2 feel like it was nbome or something like that but it came fast    23 hours

This shit pisses me off, what a waste of good lsd. I'm not saying this person didn't trip, I know nothing of the situation, but to insinuate that one of the most trusted lsd sellers here decided to sell 5 tabs of nbome to you is just ridiculous. It is of a pretty well known and tested print too, so envious ran out of acid and had one more 5 tab order so he decided to get a blank sheet of the same print he was selling and lay it in nbome just for less than a single bitcoin? Fucking ridiculous. Some shitty grammar too.

But back on topic: Fuck yeah, AL-LAD! Gonna get some coins and try it out for myself asap.

You hit the nail on the head man. This guy never messaged me concerning his 'non-tripping' like I ask people to. His entire feedback is contradictory. First he says neither him nor his wife tripped, but then he says it came on hard like 'nbome.' I've never even had nbome in my possession, let alone sold it. I obtained those Hoffmans from a very trusted source and it was lab tested and nik tested as LSD. Check a few pages feedback before and you will see the legit feedback givers. People like him are the reason for my new buyer policy. I try not to let it get to me.

Anyway, the AL-LAD is legit and lab results are posted on the product description. I'll have a pic up tomorrow, but its just basic WoW. Enjoy fellas.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Crack Fox on May 31, 2013, 05:19 pm
Ah at last!

I will be ordering some soon, very soon! Thank you for bringing this to the road!
cheers
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on May 31, 2013, 08:44 pm
Hell YESSSSS! And fuck those haters man, I completely disregarded that feedback in like a half second anyways
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on May 31, 2013, 09:40 pm
Np.
BTW, for anyone who has seen this: http://sciencefor.us/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=30025&p=390927#p390927
It is a scam. The scammer has stolen my source's laboratory information images and claimed it to be his own. Whatever he is shipping, it is not AL-LAD. My source is not too happy about it as he was the one who brought it to attention. We have posted to warn them, so if they get scammed it's their own fault.
:)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 01, 2013, 06:02 am
Damn man, so many people out there tryina riip a quick dolla bill outta some poor dudes pocket. That was quick as fuck too
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: bananarama456 on June 01, 2013, 10:49 pm
Definitely looking forward to hearing people's feedback on this. I will likely be placing an order if the product is truly a different ergoloid than LSD.

Also, about that thread from sciencefor.us, the guy seems to be giving away free samples on the board to people that can definitively verify whether or not it is what it is claimed to be. Not too entirely certain that what he is pushing is something fake, but he is definitely sending something to respectable members who apparently can have it legitimately tested. I have been scammed several times trying to get my hands on these chemicals in the past, so I'm skeptical nonetheless, but still anxious to see what people report back with.

P.S. Thank you so much for making the effort to get this product on the market! If you hear anything about ETH-LAD and/or any other ergoloids don't hesitate to try and get them, people are foaming at the mouths(myself included) to get their hands on these chemicals.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 02, 2013, 01:45 am
Yeah he is. Hopefully one of them actually lab tests whatever he is sending because my source (literally the dude who payed the lab to have the batch synthed) hasn't sold anything but WoW. No crystal has been sold so the guy can't be laying his own sheets. I wouldn't be calling him a scammer if he wasn't reusing the LC/MS images that I posted and had previously leaked to reddit since I suppose it's possible another lab could be producing AL-LAD, although unlikely. The fact is no two LC/MS result images are going to be exactly the same from two different synths. Anyway I don't care all that much TBH. Let the suckers get scammed if they don't wanna listen. :)

Should be plenty of feedback soon, already sold almost 2 sheets worth. Plenty more where that came from. Avengers have been sent a sample so hopefully I'll have some 3rd party lab results soon. :)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: bananarama456 on June 02, 2013, 02:18 am
Yeah, he was saying that the guy that sold it to him gave him that lab test and that it could have been copied from the internet. He could have just gotten ripped himself and doesn't even know it. He is genuinely looking for people to test it though. Whatever the case is doesn't matter because some type of result will come back soon and the truth will be apparent.

My money is on your stuff personally. I'm looking forward to hearing what people say about it.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 02:59 am
I am interested in peoples reviews too, I wont be dropping mine for a month or so, I know envisio for sure knows his shit with this stuff, and even if I got a strip of some nice LSD I wouldnt be mad just dissapointed.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 02, 2013, 05:46 am
Just so ppls are aware, the first 5 sheets I sell are probably more around 190ug rather than 150ug as I have listed. This was a mistake when my source laid the sheets, albeit a good one. Anyway I recommend only started with one blotter for your first dose and see where it takes you. You'll def feel it!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 06:12 am
Dude, this is fucking amazing news =) haha awesome shit

-just bought a lil more for this reason ;)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Lucius Luv on June 03, 2013, 12:26 am
About to grab up a 10 strip..  will be bugging out to dr octagon in a dimly lit room. never thought i would get to try a lsd analog :)  very excited.  According to tikhal, potency is similar to lsd, so i shouldn't have a problem dropping 3 tabs?
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 03, 2013, 01:32 am
uhmm... i can't really say. most i've taken is 225ug. you might wanna start small and work your way up, as I don't know effects of higher doses... it is an RC after all.... would hate for someone to have something bad happen.

although i do know of one of other guy so far who has taken more than that, so I would assume its probably safe.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: wavelength on June 03, 2013, 02:06 am
About to grab up a 10 strip..  will be bugging out to dr octagon in a dimly lit room. never thought i would get to try a lsd analog :)  very excited.  According to tikhal, potency is similar to lsd, so i shouldn't have a problem dropping 3 tabs?

you should read the thikal reports on it bud.

although shulgin always doses on the lower side, he said 150-160ug was plenty for him to have a great experience that he wanted to repeat.

i cant lie though, if it were me i would probably eat 3 or 4 of those tabs. =P
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Lucius Luv on June 03, 2013, 03:23 am
read the tikhal entry, he went up towards 200..  which didn't sound too overwhelming.  i always start first dose slow to test the waters; those first few highs on a new trytamine type chemical is always the most magical, so -must maximize effect.  a few hundred mics of lsd was never enough ;D
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 03, 2013, 04:50 am
i also wouldn't be surprised if this stuff is a bit purer than what Shulgin was working with. i'm told its 97%. thats fluff in LSD terms... :) i'm gonna be procuring a vial of liquid for personal after this batch to see what this substance is truly about... true liquid acid trippers should know what i mean. the beautiful thing about working with crystal is that we can make sure its laid on THICK.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Tripazoid on June 03, 2013, 08:42 pm
Hello friends,

I wasn't sure whether to post this on this thread or Jannis', as I got the AL-LAD from Jannis. But from what I understand, it's the same stuff.

Tried one 150ug blotter last night. First time with AL-LAD, have done regular acid hundreds of times before, but not for a few years. Also tried most tryptamines and phens before. No tolerance at the mo, as my last psychedelic was 2C-B, 2 weeks ago.

This stuff is not LSD! I'm pretty sure it's AL-LAD. It feels different to 'cid.Duration is as mentioned in Tihkal, about 6 or 7 hours.

Come-up feels like acid, but after that it's different. Body-trip feels more shroom-like, more tryptamine-y (waves of energy), very horny, like Foxy. The head space is much more together than LSD. It's more like 2C-D or 2C-C. Quite clear thinking, almost nootropic-like. Very few visuals, but colours are sharper and more defined, and somehow..... different. Very relaxed and chilled-out.

But 150ug (if that is indeed the amount on the blotter) isn't enough. I never felt like I got anywhere. It felt equivalent to about 120ug of LSD. I fell a bit short, and 2 hours in, I wished I'd taken more, maybe 1.5 or 2 tabs. In fact, I didn't like the thought of spending another 4 hours being "almost somewhere" so I dosed up with 100mg MDMA.

The two synergise quite nicely, but 100mg MDMA was too much even though my usual dose is 130-140mg. 80mg would have been better. The MDMA kinda overpowered the AL-LAD and I spent the remainder of the trip being a perv :)

I'll definitely try AL-LAD again, but at a higher dosage.

Hope that helps shed some light on this little gem :)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 04, 2013, 02:49 am
that was my conclusion. 225ug was the tip of the iceberg for me.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: bananarama456 on June 04, 2013, 03:08 am
Another AL-LAD vendor apparently just popped up. :o
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 04, 2013, 05:17 am
Another AL-LAD vendor apparently just popped up. :o

you mean jannis? we are working together.. we split distribution geographically. i only like to ship domestic so he is taking the rest of the world
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: PotatoConnoisseur on June 04, 2013, 05:26 am
Could be referring to this, http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=167832.0
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 04, 2013, 05:35 am
no worries... :)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: TFMP on June 04, 2013, 07:15 am
very horny, like Foxy
and I spent the remainder of the trip being a perv :)

Finally someone who doesn't call it "erotic", +1 for that ;)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Twelve_Pickles on June 04, 2013, 11:40 pm
awesome to see the first trip reports coming back off thsi =]
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Phreeze311 on June 05, 2013, 09:53 pm
im staring at my al-lad blotters now envious is a stand up guy and literally the fastest shipping you can possibly get. It practically teleported here. I want to take it but this guy i got xanax powder off of may have ripped me off been in transit almost 11 days and still not here. How is the come down on this stuff is it as hard to fall asleep after as lsd is? I got the 190 ug from envi's first batch so i got lucky. If I take 1 without anything to come down with will i be suffering when i try to goto sleep after?
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: thegalactica420 on June 06, 2013, 05:23 am
Do any of you know how stable AL-LAD is? Would it need to be stored like LSD?
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: stevesteve666 on June 07, 2013, 08:59 pm
Received 3 tabs from Jannis last week below i wrote about my experience saying no one else has:

I am not a very experienced use of LSD although this substance did feel a lot more joyful to me and the visuals were intense throughout, will hopefully gather the funds to buy more of this as I had a brilliant time and the joy I felt throughout even seemed to outdo any previous highs i have experienced.

Around 9am I took my first dose of one tab (160ug)
Waited around an hour  or so and decided to dose again with just half a tab.
After much waiting around with my friend listening to music I wasn't seeming to reach any real high so I consumed the other half, after about 3 hours from my first dose I was sitting outside with my friend I slowly began to notice that the shadows behind him were flashing red and this marked the start of the trip.
Before the visuals intensified I began to feel a huge level of euphoria and I was laughing at nearly anything I saw or thought.  Around 12am to 1230am the visuals intensified with almost anything I viewed becoming somewhat changed, although it was never really overwhelming and I had a constant euphoria which I exclaimed to my friend constantly. 

Around 0130am a huge wave of the substance took control of me and I was completely under its effects, up until this point we had been walking / relaxing outside but now I had the chance to listen to music. when listening to music I felt very connected to the sounds I was hearing and at some points it felt that the mood of the song was quickly changing my emotions.

From 2am-3am I sat in my kitchen "cooking" a pizza this took large part of an hour as i was so high, visuals at this point included a lot of flashing lights and I suddenly had a great urge to party as I was feeling so happy .

Around 4am the trip started to wind down although it was not completely over at this point with quite a lot of small visuals going on and strange thoughts in my mind I attempted to sleep. Upon waking my girlfriend I proceeded to talk to her for another hour until I passed out into a very relaxing sleep.

Notes:
Apologies if this is quite vague after waiting so long for any effects I had begun to think the product was not having  any effect, although the trip began to take hold quite rapidly around 12am which made a lot of the details very vague to me as I was enjoying myself too much to remember any details.

My Friend who hasn't tripped before took one tab, felt weird / happy but nothing passed that., although he struggled to sleep saying his mind was roaming constantly till around 4am. And from other posts I have seen  several other people have reported one tab not taking them to any visual stages so doses above 160ug would be recommended although don't go too crazy if inexperienced!


Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 07, 2013, 11:58 pm
i think ppl need to give it a bit more time to kick in b4 redosing. if its anything like acid then redosing is just a waste...
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Tripazoid on June 08, 2013, 12:44 am
i think ppl need to give it a bit more time to kick in b4 redosing. if its anything like acid then redosing is just a waste...

For sure. I gave it an hour and decided that it was at its peak. Really the peak came just short of two hours.

@Stevesteve666 - Thanks for the report! The more people add their feedback, the more we're gonna know about this compound.

It seems like the visual aspects only start to show above around 200ug. My next dose is gonna be 225-300ug.

Shulgin suggests in Tihkal that dosage is 80-160ug but he has been known to lowball his dosages for many compounds. He claims that 2CD is mere "pharmalogical tofu" at his recommended dosage of 30-60mg, whereas it only shows its true face (IMO) at 70+ mg, and German psychotherapists were handing it out at 200mg. Also, we don't know anything about the stability of AL-LAD, so what may end up on the blotter may not be as much as we think it is. The blotter I had was very tough, more like hard cardboard, and after an hour of keeping it in my mouth, alternating chewing with keeping it sublingual, the card was still very much intact. This may contribute to its slow absorption.

Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 08, 2013, 01:33 am
yeah for sure. shulgin could just be ultra sensitive to stuff... id say 300-400ug would be ideal for a seasoned tripper
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: CannabisCrusader on June 09, 2013, 07:43 am
took 450ug of this stuff from envious like 5 hours and feel like I just went through hell and back.  I dont recommend taking 3 these
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 09, 2013, 08:45 am
Excited to see reports coming in =D! From the looks of it, I think Ima start off with 1.5 tabs, I got mine in a dry, cool, dark place for now, supposedly the 190 ug's from envious's first batch, dont know when Im gonna do it but I will def report back!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: wavelength on June 09, 2013, 03:32 pm
took 450ug of this stuff from envious like 5 hours and feel like I just went through hell and back.  I dont recommend taking 3 these

lol details?
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Electric Paper on June 09, 2013, 05:01 pm
took 450ug of this stuff from envious like 5 hours and feel like I just went through hell and back.  I dont recommend taking 3 these

lol details?

Yes details please. I was planning on taking 3, although I may just go with 2 now. I've tripped somewhere around 60-80 times over the last 4 years. So I'm not a newb, but I'm also not a veteran.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 09, 2013, 08:15 pm
yes i'd like some details. don't just take 500ug and expect it to be like acid. its an RC. please treat it as such. there is probably going to a body load at high doses. jannis got some wack feedback from someone who did the same thing i'm guessing. overall people seem to enjoy it at 200-300ug.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Electric Paper on June 10, 2013, 06:40 am
yes i'd like some details. don't just take 500ug and expect it to be like acid. its an RC. please treat it as such. there is probably going to a body load at high doses. jannis got some wack feedback from someone who did the same thing i'm guessing. overall people seem to enjoy it at 200-300ug.

This here is a class of chemicals thats really going to make people start having to consider what defines an RC. How can LSD be safe to dose at well over a few MG, where this chemical people don't like at over 450-500ug? Could it be impurities, could it be the psychosomatic effects of people simply being aware of what their tripping on, (IE would these people have enjoyed the same trip if they thought it was LSD?). This is something we are going to have to consider.

Either way, keep bringing more rare ergoloids to the market!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: khorne flake on June 10, 2013, 12:38 pm
yes i'd like some details. don't just take 500ug and expect it to be like acid. its an RC. please treat it as such. there is probably going to a body load at high doses. jannis got some wack feedback from someone who did the same thing i'm guessing. overall people seem to enjoy it at 200-300ug.

This here is a class of chemicals thats really going to make people start having to consider what defines an RC. How can LSD be safe to dose at well over a few MG, where this chemical people don't like at over 450-500ug? Could it be impurities, could it be the psychosomatic effects of people simply being aware of what their tripping on, (IE would these people have enjoyed the same trip if they thought it was LSD?). This is something we are going to have to consider.

Either way, keep bringing more rare ergoloids to the market!

It's an RC because there is so little known about it, unlike LSD which has over 50 years of documented use, AL-LAD remains mysterious.  When I decide to try mine I'll contribute my experience here so that we may start to know Alladin as we do Lucy.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 10, 2013, 12:46 pm
Lol did you just make Alladin up?? Or is that legit nickname?? Lol cause I love it =p
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: khorne flake on June 10, 2013, 01:05 pm
Made it up the day I got my strip in from envious  ;D   Glad you dig.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 10, 2013, 01:54 pm
Lols, +1 to you sir khorne flake!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Toomanydabs1 on June 10, 2013, 03:01 pm
yeah for sure. shulgin could just be ultra sensitive to stuff... id say 300-400ug would be ideal for a seasoned tripper

I highly doubt that no offense... I bet he got the purest of the pure and that was plenty at that dosage...
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 10, 2013, 04:07 pm
yes i'd like some details. don't just take 500ug and expect it to be like acid. its an RC. please treat it as such. there is probably going to a body load at high doses. jannis got some wack feedback from someone who did the same thing i'm guessing. overall people seem to enjoy it at 200-300ug.

This here is a class of chemicals thats really going to make people start having to consider what defines an RC. How can LSD be safe to dose at well over a few MG, where this chemical people don't like at over 450-500ug? Could it be impurities, could it be the psychosomatic effects of people simply being aware of what their tripping on, (IE would these people have enjoyed the same trip if they thought it was LSD?). This is something we are going to have to consider.

Either way, keep bringing more rare ergoloids to the market!

honestly the only other time i had an LSD analog (it got passed off to me as L but it was def not LSD, not AL-LAD though, probably LSB, some euro print a few years ago)... i got these terrible kidney spasms that lasted for the peak of the trip. its hard to explain. but i could see how large doses of this could have some sort of body load although so far only 2 people have said anything and alot more have tried it so it could just depend on the person. its really hard to tell since no one is saying anything more than vague comments about going to hell and back and not telling anyone what effects they had. LSD is molecule of perfection but still everyone knows it can cause certain issues itself (back pain, stomach twists). no ergoloid analog is likely to be as perfect as L and I don't want this passed off as L like people are doing with nbome so the next batch is perforated blotter with AL-LAD on front of each tab and molecule structure on the back. its not cool because then people do drop a large amt thinking its L and then they end up getting hurt.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Lucius Luv on June 10, 2013, 06:13 pm
^that lsb don't sound too appealing kinda nbomish

 it was a 'good' medium level trip visually comparable to a midsize dose of something like 4aco dmt (in intensity).  took 2 doses, which struggled to reach a plus three; i would set the trip at about a +2.75, apparently i had the stronger doses? i'm pretty sure i like this chemical, but i was completely unimpressed by the intensity.  Very clear headed, smooth trip, with no hangover.  some very mild tightness in my muscles for a few seconds which may have been placebo. I'm going for three hits next time, though i feel as if i could/should have taken 4. 

to compare it to acid, it was very smooth, and felt clean, without the pushy edgyness of acid.  i could take this, at my most recent dose(2) and go to an amusement park, and likely have the time of my life, acid is too much of a mind fuck.  al lad is something i' think i'll be exploring more of in the future, if available.

Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: RaFaeL5 on June 10, 2013, 06:25 pm
no ergoloid analog is likely to be as perfect as L and I don't want this passed off as L like people are doing with nbome so the next batch is perforated blotter with AL-LAD on front of each tab and molecule structure on the back. its not cool because then people do drop a large amt thinking its L and then they end up getting hurt.

+1 to you, Envioso...
I love to see people who actually care about what they're doing, what product they're selling and what happens with the costumers who use the substances.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 10, 2013, 09:55 pm
Thats cool about the labeled perforated blotters, awesome shit man!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: atlas on June 10, 2013, 11:40 pm
And that is why envious is a STAR vendor folks!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Electric Paper on June 11, 2013, 05:43 am
Labeled blotters would be a good idea.

I took 2 tabs today. IDK if they were the 150's or 190's. But either way at the 2 hour mark I decided that it had developed as far as it was going to and I was unimpressed. So rather than just wallowing the trip away (or wasting more AL-LAD by redosing) I decided to take about 7.5 mg of 2CE to push it over the edge. It was a good time. I'm going to try 3 tabs of the AL-LAD in the future. The trip felt very 25i like, and I have no doubt that was because of the 2CE that pushed it in that direction. Of course I was thinking "fake acid, fake acid, fake acid" the whole time so that was also probably why my mind kept going to 25i.

I will defiantly give AL-LAD another trial in a week or so once my receptors have reset themselves.....or so I hope. I'm starting to feel bad for those little buggers..... Going to take what I think is 450ug, or 3 tabs of whatever strength this is. So far I think I prefer LSD.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: doomsdayguy on June 11, 2013, 12:30 pm
Man, I see a hell of a lot of the reports coming out with people being impatient, not getting deep enough effects... etc. Aren't you interested in the effects the drug has at a lower dosage too? Surely in our experiences with LSD we have concluded that it is a very different drug once you get to different dosage levels... This is no different! Anybody who took more than one their first time was just being reckless. Respect your body.

One blotter at 190ug gave me a slow come up taking about 2 hours and then visuals exploded into a shroom-like patternization. Felt really tryptamine-ey to me and I loved the dreamyness of the trip. Gonna probably have an acid trip this weekend and break for 2 weeks before I try it again at a concert :)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Mushman1973 on June 11, 2013, 04:37 pm
I have one of these tabs on the way, I`ve always wanted to try this molecule after reading TIHKAL. I will leave a trip report in this thread after I sample it, sounds like an interesting and rare treat. Everyone just needs to remember that this is not LSD25 and the effects will be different. Some people take psychedelics and expect the same results from different drugs. They do have similar effects, but they are all unique and should be looked at in that respect. Happy tripping everyone:)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Tyrion Lannister on June 11, 2013, 04:59 pm
for the same price as LSD? =(
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 13, 2013, 04:50 pm
i am almost out (1 10 strip left) but the good news is my restock should be in anytime. this is probably the last time i'll be stocking AL-LAD and then moving on to other ergoloids, so grab what you want this time around. sorry no clues as to whats next... except that its not LSM-775 (this proved inactive even at doses of 1mg+ and thus determined not worth marketing).
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 14, 2013, 08:20 pm
bulk in stock
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 15, 2013, 05:52 am
I will eat up your ergoloids as fast as I can envisio ;)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 15, 2013, 08:31 pm
Starting monday I am going to start meditating and using Quartz crystals to sort of "cleanse" the chi/energy of my AL-LAD blotters, I might set 1 or 2 aside and not do it to those as a controll group. Lol I am going to start experimenting with this sort of stuff a lot now =p
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 15, 2013, 09:47 pm
Starting monday I am going to start meditating and using Quartz crystals to sort of "cleanse" the chi/energy of my AL-LAD blotters, I might set 1 or 2 aside and not do it to those as a controll group. Lol I am going to start experimenting with this sort of stuff a lot now =p

already did that bro
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: wavelength on June 15, 2013, 10:01 pm
Starting monday I am going to start meditating and using Quartz crystals to sort of "cleanse" the chi/energy of my AL-LAD blotters, I might set 1 or 2 aside and not do it to those as a controll group. Lol I am going to start experimenting with this sort of stuff a lot now =p

already did that bro

i love this. when i sell psyches to people i usually meditate over them and put good energy into them.

+1 for both of you, i love hearing that other people do it  :)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: doomsdayguy on June 16, 2013, 05:55 am
Envious please let us know what you will have for us in the future ASAP! :)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: zipstyle on June 17, 2013, 10:01 pm
wow, i would love to have psychedelics, especially AL-LAD, from a vendor that cares so much about the quality of experience his customers have. Definitely interested.

Much love
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 18, 2013, 12:33 am
i got 3 vials for sale. listing here: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/ed73b9c380
these are very limited... no more after these are gone.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: wavelength on June 18, 2013, 03:29 am
well i hate to ask this retarded question, but here it goes.

how would you guys compare a 150 hit of al-lad to a 110 hit of lsd?

compare the visuals, mindfuck, bodyhigh/load, taste (if any) etc.

i saw the listing for the vials and almost shit....(speaking of which, how about you split one of those three vials you have so you can sell two half vials and two full!)
i definitely want to try this rare gem but i dont want to spend that price if the experience isnt as valuable as lsd  ::)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 18, 2013, 05:16 am
well i hate to ask this retarded question, but here it goes.

how would you guys compare a 150 hit of al-lad to a 110 hit of lsd?

compare the visuals, mindfuck, bodyhigh/load, taste (if any) etc.

i saw the listing for the vials and almost shit....(speaking of which, how about you split one of those three vials you have so you can sell two half vials and two full!)
i definitely want to try this rare gem but i dont want to spend that price if the experience isnt as valuable as lsd  ::)

i cannot do that. sorry. they are as is. if you want less there is plenty of different amounts of blotters i am selling.
you will just have to read the reports and make your own conclusions. i have only tripped once and it was the blotter, although i plan on testing the liquid soon.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: wavelength on June 18, 2013, 06:35 am

i cannot do that. sorry. they are as is. if you want less there is plenty of different amounts of blotters i am selling.
you will just have to read the reports and make your own conclusions. i have only tripped once and it was the blotter, although i plan on testing the liquid soon.
i understand friend.

i'll likely try out a smaller order with you here soon and go from there  ::)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 19, 2013, 12:21 am
envious, did you use quartz? did you use other gem or just meditation?? That is awesome haha looks like I can save my meditation for mushrooms =p and +1 to you and wavelength =D oh yeah and vials? Schweet, I will see price, you be tempting me
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: zipstyle on June 19, 2013, 02:32 pm
Placed my order with envious, will report back :D
So excited to try this one...I have been waiting for YEARS to have this opportunity.

My only regret is that I couldn't buy more, but it must be sampled before more money is invested.
Also, does anyone know about the stability/durability of this chemical? Will it decompose easier than LSD, or is it any more durable?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 19, 2013, 03:03 pm
stability is unknown but best to be safe and keep it as you would lsd. so far there has been no noticeable effect from shipping on hot summer days though.

PS: i've tested the liquid and woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yeh its some good shit just as i expected
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: zipstyle on June 19, 2013, 03:17 pm
stability is unknown but best to be safe and keep it as you would lsd. so far there has been no noticeable effect from shipping on hot summer days though.

PS: i've tested the liquid and woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yeh its some good shit just as i expected

Oh mannn!!
I hope I can get enough coins in time to grab some if the tabs are good. :D
Much love brotha
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: TFMP on June 19, 2013, 07:50 pm
PS: i've tested the liquid and woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yeh its some good shit just as i expected

that's about as vague as the guy who said he went to hell and back, tell us more pls ;)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 20, 2013, 12:09 am
PS: i've tested the liquid and woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yeh its some good shit just as i expected

that's about as vague as the guy who said he went to hell and back, tell us more pls ;)

just a smoother transition into much more potent experience... its hard to explain but its just what i would of expected from liquid vs blotter. if you can compare the two with acid then you should know what i mean. its just a better experience... i don't really know what to say other than that. when i said the hell and back was vague i meant if you are getting negative effect tell us what those effects ARE rather than saying 'bad times.'
if thats what you meant then i'll list my effects. euphoria, OEV/CEV, auditory enhancment, increased appreciation of music to name a few. i hate naming effects though because i'm the vendor so then people read that and expect to get the same thing when they trip, but psychedelics effect everyone very differently and if they don't get my effects then they are upset with me for falsely 'hyping my product' or 'selling bunk.' bleh...
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: TFMP on June 20, 2013, 06:49 am
Thanks, that was exactly what I meant. The more the merrier :) Have some confidence in being a well trusted vendor, I wouldn't have asked this otherwise. I'm pretty sure most people here trust your word, you are a star vendor for a reason. I understand though where you are coming from and the power of suggestion is quite a factor, I agree.     
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 20, 2013, 07:41 pm
people with negative mindsets like envious be talking about should not be diving into psychadelics, they should be learning about their world while sober first lols
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: zipstyle on June 20, 2013, 08:56 pm
people with negative mindsets like envious be talking about should not be diving into psychadelics, they should be learning about their world while sober first lols

Very true. It's like (I think) Huxley said, that psychedelics should be used only by the healthiest people in society for mind-expansion and that those people should be the ones to help heal others with those medicines. Something like that, anyways.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 21, 2013, 11:33 am
Hell yeah, I love that idea, it reminds me of tribal shamans and shit
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Lucius Luv on June 21, 2013, 06:03 pm
damn.. i want that liquid soooo bad.  please offer this at the end of next month man. Pre warning, i'm going to pm  beg saying i'll pay an extra 100 to get a bottle of liquid.  about About to pop 3 tabs later and enjoy the full moon.  I can't imagine having a bad trip on this, and walking in nature on al lad is pure bliss.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: zipstyle on June 21, 2013, 08:19 pm
damn.. i want that liquid soooo bad.  please offer this at the end of next month man. Pre warning, i'm going to pm  beg saying i'll pay an extra 100 to get a bottle of liquid.  about About to pop 3 tabs later and enjoy the full moon.  I can't imagine having a bad trip on this, and walking in nature on al lad is pure bliss.

You and me both man... if only I had an extra 600 bucks lying around :P :D
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: zipstyle on June 21, 2013, 10:38 pm
If this AL-LAD is good...I'll have to definitely order quite a bit more :)
Been checking the mail every day! lol
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 24, 2013, 01:01 pm
hey guys. i am leaving for vacation on the 2nd and and will be back after not too long. :) i've only sold 1 vial so far but alot of interest... don't know if they are actually gonna buy tho. so far everyone is really liking this stuff i think because i'm getting alot of repeat orders. no more 'hell and back' comments... so must of been an allergy or something. anyway, try to have your orders in before i leave if you want your doses soon. and when i get back i will have the new ergoloid up for sale: LSZ. woot woot!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: CannaConnection on June 24, 2013, 01:54 pm
Scam :(
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: khorne flake on June 24, 2013, 03:49 pm
hey guys. i am leaving for vacation on the 2nd and and will be back after not too long. :) i've only sold 1 vial so far but alot of interest... don't know if they are actually gonna buy tho. so far everyone is really liking this stuff i think because i'm getting alot of repeat orders. no more 'hell and back' comments... so must of been an allergy or something. anyway, try to have your orders in before i leave if you want your doses soon. and when i get back i will have the new ergoloid up for sale: LSZ. woot woot!

I am very skeptical that you have real diazedine.  This chemical was made by leonard pickard but was not brought to the streets because it was impractical to sell for the effort and lsd you have to put into it.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 24, 2013, 04:17 pm
lol really? i haven't scammed so far and its been 2 years since i started vending here. did i not just pump out tons of real AL-LAD? why is it so hard to believe i have access to real LSZ? i will have the LC/MS to prove it...  Pickard and this project are 2 completely different things. Pickard was about money and producing the most product he possibly could. POUNDS of LSD crystal. this project is coordinated by an enthusiast with the means to produce these ergoloids. this is not a quantity but a quality project. there is only going to be a few grams of LSZ produced. that's still enough for me to buy and distribute it to some folks who will appreciate it.

just look at all of CannaConnection's posts. they are all calling people scammers, so that is complete bullshit troll account... hopefully once you see the LC/MS you may believe me khorne flake. although i am sure i have the trust of 90% of this community and most people will take my word for it.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: valakki on June 24, 2013, 06:16 pm
lol really? i haven't scammed so far and its been 2 years since i started vending here. did i not just pump out tons of real AL-LAD? why is it so hard to believe i have access to real LSZ? i will have the LC/MS to prove it...  Pickard and this project are 2 completely different things. Pickard was about money and producing the most product he possibly could. POUNDS of LSD crystal. this project is coordinated by an enthusiast with the means to produce these ergoloids. this is not a quantity but a quality project. there is only going to be a few grams of LSZ produced. that's still enough for me to buy and distribute it to some folks who will appreciate it.

just look at all of CannaConnection's posts. they are all calling people scammers, so that is complete bullshit troll account... hopefully once you see the LC/MS you may believe me khorne flake. although i am sure i have the trust of 90% of this community and most people will take my word for it.


so there is production going on?
not just al-lad but also lsd production right?.
good to hear.
 i started to think we were only eating the leftovers of  the Pickard batch.
I will might buy just to support. we need  the new chemists!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: khorne flake on June 24, 2013, 06:30 pm
I definitely believe that what you sold me as AL-LAD was indeed that so no doubt I'll buy another test pack once it comes around.  LSZ is quite a claim and a substance I never thought I'd be able to procure unless I made it myself.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 24, 2013, 06:52 pm
yes this is new production... i am not a chemist and i don't know of LSD is being produced, but i  know there is a way to make AL-LAD without using LSD contrary to popular belief, because this AL-LAD was made that way. so maybe there is a way to make LSZ without it also.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: zipstyle on June 24, 2013, 10:34 pm
Hey everyone, this vendor is NOT a scammer.
I am just coming off a trip. A trip report coming very soon, but I have to say--LSD included--this is by far one of the finest ergoloid psychedelics I have yet to try (and I have tried QUITE a few in my time). This vendor sells very high potency and quality product. I seriously could have tripped off 1/2 or 1/3 of the stamp. Beautiful trip and allowed for insight but it was great because it was so much more individual-based rather than the sinister side. It was like the laughing Buddha version of LSD. I have laughed and learned so much in one afternoon.

Thank you envioso for making these insights possible. A truly beautiful experience. I will be buying more from you when I get a chance :)
All the best, and keep doing what you do.
I could definitely feel your energy through the trip, thanks for your meditations.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: GGGreenbud on June 24, 2013, 11:14 pm
  I haven't personally tried the AL-LAD yet because of x-tolerance issues, but a trip report will follow soon, along with a control individual who will not be on my voyage, but has joined me on several journeys, and his trip will summarized as best I can(We'll call him Harley Dude or HD.)  I got the first batch of unperforated WoW.  Anyway, speaking about ergoloids, I know that nor-LA can be used to manufacture 6-Allyl-nor-LSD, because it is simply subbed in the reaction process, much like the acetylation of ALD-52.  LSZ would probably be easier in some ways to produce, albeit with lower yields because the amine is commercially available, and the chromatography is the only part which is different.   I for one, look forward to all of these goodies, as do several of my close psychonautically inclined friends.  Remember: Amber glass with a desicant is the optimal storage scenario!  What does everyone think, one or two?
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: envioso on June 24, 2013, 11:57 pm
yep thats how it was made with nor-LA. now that you say it i remember my conversation.
not sure on the LSZ... just sure that its here. :)
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: zipstyle on June 26, 2013, 04:45 pm
Ok, trip report time :)

I took 1 blotter of envious' AL-LAD, reported to be dosed at 150 ug on an empty stomach in the morning.
(Note: In the future I will remember to eat before taking the stamp)

I had the comeup in my bathtub while listening to some new music. The comeup was really quite relaxing, but I felt like 150 was a strong dose for me (it's possible that's just because I haven't taken any ergoloids in ~3 years, but I think that this is a potent drug :) ). Next time for a light trip I'll take 1/2 a stamp or 1/3rd even. I felt more "drunk" than I would feel on LSD, but I don't mean that in a bad way. I laughed so much during the trip, and that may be due to my mindset, but the chemical was definitely more inclined towards showing me the lighter side of things. Here are some notes I took. Things in parenthesis are notes I wrote when typing this up, things in brackets were actually there when I wrote the notes:

AL-LAD is a comical chemical. LSD, but way funnier haha! Well, that makes me sound like a gawker or something. It's pretty deep, I've cried. But damn, shit like the redneck stuff that my brain was coming up with...HAH! (at one point, my brain was creating skits in my head in these really authentic redneck voices and I couldn't stop thinking in a redneck voice. It was hilarious!)

It comes down to ME.

I feel snobbish right now in any artistic thing I do or consume. God, I hate that feeling. My body is hating me. NEED FOOD it always demands!

And sometimes I think
is my prime extinct
and if it is
who cares anyway
[Besides me, that is]

^ Statement that is both egotistical and sad.

So I'd say 150 ug would be considered a very "High" dose. I would not suggest repeating the dose. Lower, maybe.
Right now imagining the LSD scene...bunch of people tripping with a bunch of other people tripping. They just want the cops to leave. LOL.

The Truth (about life) is not found is solitude, it is found with others. You find the Truth in each person you meet. The Truth is both the positive and negative aspects of people and things.

Every action, every thing is a communication. Space is information. Even at the micro level, atoms relate to each other and to the observer the nature that they're a part of.

**END NOTES**

All in all, I loved AL-LAD. It felt very clean, as when I came down I was able to talk to my room mate who cannot know that I use drugs and there was no issue at all. I was actually able to understand him from a more loving perspective than a fighting perspective. I realized that he's not an adversary, he wants to make the world a better place just as much as I do. I just was understanding him in a negative light. The trip itself was much less "punishing" than LSD, if that makes sense and much much more self-directed. One of the most beautiful moments was when my mind was racing and everything felt like it was going too fast and I suddenly thought: think of nothing but the present moment. And in that second that I practiced Be Here Now, I felt this perfectly circular tone permeating everything around me and surrounding me with a beautiful aura which I have actually been able to make present in subsequent days. It's like a new control of my mind that I now have and keep with me. I think this chemical also has greater potential for microdosing than LSD, but that's just my opinion. I hope AL-LAD stays available for a bit longer, as I'd like to buy some more to save for later dates.

Thanks again, envioso.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: RaFaeL5 on June 26, 2013, 06:53 pm
Thankyou Zipstyle for your trip report... I think you might have convinced me to get some...  ;D
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: zipstyle on June 27, 2013, 02:44 am
Thankyou Zipstyle for your trip report... I think you might have convinced me to get some...  ;D

You won't be disappointed!
It is a beautiful chemical and perfect for those that have already been well acquainted to the psychedelic trip. You can take the trip pretty much wherever you'd like.
Get ready to laugh at the greatness of the universe!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Lucius Luv on June 27, 2013, 06:34 am
Glad to see other trip reports.  3 tabs certainly won't send you to hell and back -i experienced the opposite.  But in the future i don't think i'll have a need for more than 1 tab.

It works best for my spirit as a potentiator of the other realms of psychedelic mysterio. 
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: zipstyle on June 27, 2013, 09:44 pm
Hell and back? Were you referring to my report? Cuz I wouldn't say that I went to hell at all!
3 tabs would be fine, just very strong (for me, at least).

I agree, I think it's a great chemical if you know where you wanna go.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Toomanydabs1 on July 01, 2013, 05:23 am
curious if it had a taste at all?
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: zipstyle on July 02, 2013, 03:16 am
curious if it had a taste at all?

No taste whatsoever my good man. Just the taste of paper (does paper really even have a taste?) and/or maybe ink, but there is no chemical taste.
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: Toomanydabs1 on July 03, 2013, 02:22 am
curious if it had a taste at all?

No taste whatsoever my good man. Just the taste of paper (does paper really even have a taste?) and/or maybe ink, but there is no chemical taste.

Thanks for the info! +1

Can't wait till he gets back from vacation... plan on placing a small sample order!  Really excited for this compound and for LSZ! 

BIG UPS ENVIOSO!
Title: Re: Interest Check: AL-LAD
Post by: GGGreenbud on July 05, 2013, 03:13 am
An old friend took 2 tabs of the AL-LAD 150ug today, he is on some SSRIs, so he usually only trips 'lite' , and I made it clear that YMMV because of that, but he said it was a good colorful trip for a solid 6 hours.
I haven't taken my dose yet, but I will definitely update on my own trip and 2 friends who have partaken with more details soon.  Haven't heard from my other friend who dosed on one, but I assume it went well.. I usually have some higher-tolerance people guinea pig my stuff, because I'm pretty sensitive at this point, and can trip off weed or gas fumes or spicy food sometimes, lolz... anyway, good stuff! thanks Envious!