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Title: Laser based molecular scanners [newly developed technology]
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 07, 2013, 06:38 am
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2012-07/laser-can-instantly-scan-you-anything-and-you-would-never-know-it

That inconspicuous brown box above is reportedly a new kind of laser-based molecular scanner that can collect spectroscopic information from more than 150 feet away. It can instantly probe your clothing and luggage for chemical traces of anything--explosives, drugs, biological matter--and you will never even know it.

So says Gizmodo in a mildly terrifying piece posted this morning about Genia Photonics’ laser scanning device, contracted by an entity called In-Q-Tel, which is basically a group of private technology incubators working for the CIA. The idea, reportedly, is to install this molecular scanner in airports and border crossings and the like, where it can deliver instantaneous (it analyzes in just 50 picoseconds) spectroscopic analysis of people and cargo from a distance--and likely from an unseen location. Authorities could scan everyone passing through an airport terminal, sports stadium, or customs check.

Or it could scan everyone simply walking down a street. It’s supposedly portable, so it could be deployed anywhere from far enough away that the subject wouldn’t have to know about it. Reports Gizmodo's anonymous author:

“The small, inconspicuous machine is attached to a computer running a program that will show the information in real time, from trace amounts of cocaine on your dollar bills to gunpowder residue on your shoes. Forget trying to sneak a bottle of water past security—they will be able to tell what you had for breakfast in an instant while you're walking down the hallway.”

DHS says the technology will be ready for deployment in just one or two years. You can practically hear the privacy rights groups gathering their pitchforks for this one.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: GodKiller on April 07, 2013, 07:21 am
Well fuck me with a pineapple.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: sillybastard on April 07, 2013, 12:33 pm
Well fuck me with a pineapple.

lol.. yeah, that's gonna fucking suck
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: hightimescookiesswag on April 07, 2013, 04:50 pm
i got to see it to beleive it, just give it time, and it wont even happen, they got people rights being infringed, and all that will go to hell, what they might do is just have it set up with like military industrial complexes, but not even that far


Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 07, 2013, 05:06 pm
i got to see it to beleive it, just give it time, and it wont even happen, they got people rights being infringed, and all that will go to hell, what they might do is just have it set up with like military industrial complexes, but not even that far
not even that far? military has nuclear powered boring machines that melt the earth and form a glass tube 60 feet wide miles under the earths crust. people live on it for 6 months at a time. there are underground freeways all across the US and maglev bullet trains that travel at mach 2 or 3. there are over 1,400 underground military bases in the US alone. switzerland has them, germany has them, and you dont think military will at least use THIS simlpe technology? lol get real military is hundreds of years ahead of civilian technology.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Hippy Tribe Chief on April 07, 2013, 05:20 pm
There is a staggering amount of drug residue amongst the u.s. postal system -especially on packages that have nothing to do with drugs.  With that said, SR vendors will just have to adapt and package within a vacuum. 
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: sillybastard on April 07, 2013, 05:29 pm
i got to see it to beleive it, just give it time, and it wont even happen, they got people rights being infringed, and all that will go to hell, what they might do is just have it set up with like military industrial complexes, but not even that far
not even that far? military has nuclear powered boring machines that melt the earth and form a glass tube 60 feet wide miles under the earths crust. people live on it for 6 months at a time. there are underground freeways all across the US and maglev bullet trains that travel at mach 2 or 3. there are over 1,400 underground military bases in the US alone. switzerland has them, germany has them, and you dont think military will at least use THIS simlpe technology? lol get real military is hundreds of years ahead of civilian technology.

Please list sources for these ridiculous claims.  The military gets all of their technology from civilian contractors.  They pay the contractors to control the "SOME" of the most advanced technology.. but that technology is not 100 years ahead.. If you have any idea how technology and Moore's law works, there's nothing even close to the exponential growth that Moore's law would provide (and that's just in processing capability).  Quantum Mechanics is the leading edge of computing technology, and the goverment hasn't figured that out yet... Civilians are coming close
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 07, 2013, 06:15 pm
i got to see it to beleive it, just give it time, and it wont even happen, they got people rights being infringed, and all that will go to hell, what they might do is just have it set up with like military industrial complexes, but not even that far
not even that far? military has nuclear powered boring machines that melt the earth and form a glass tube 60 feet wide miles under the earths crust. people live on it for 6 months at a time. there are underground freeways all across the US and maglev bullet trains that travel at mach 2 or 3. there are over 1,400 underground military bases in the US alone. switzerland has them, germany has them, and you dont think military will at least use THIS simlpe technology? lol get real military is hundreds of years ahead of civilian technology.

Please list sources for these ridiculous claims.  The military gets all of their technology from civilian contractors.  They pay the contractors to control the "SOME" of the most advanced technology.. but that technology is not 100 years ahead.. If you have any idea how technology and Moore's law works, there's nothing even close to the exponential growth that Moore's law would provide (and that's just in processing capability).  Quantum Mechanics is the leading edge of computing technology, and the goverment hasn't figured that out yet... Civilians are coming close
LOL DO YOU LIVE NUDER A ROCK?! OBVIOUSLY YOU DONT DO RESEARCH AND NEVER BEEN IN THE MILITARY ;)

now do your own motherfucking research next time before making ridiculous claims dumbass.  use fucking google this is just the tip of the iceberg.

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This is a $13 million tunnel boring machine (TBM) used for tunneling at the Nevada Test Site. (Remember that Area 51 is part of the test site.) Many other types of TBMs are used by many govt. agencies, including the "nuclear powered TBM" that melts solid rock and leaves behind glass-like walls. Most tunneling activity is under military installations and all information is highly restricted. Former employees of said facilities have surfaced over the years to talk of massive underground installations in places like Area 51, Northrop Facility in Antelope Valley, Ca. (rumored to have 42 levels), and the Lockheed installation near Edwards, Ca.

http://projectcamelot.org/tunnel_boring_machine_4.jpg
http://theocculttruth.com/web_images/3.jpg
http://eyeofthefish.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/tbm_large.jpg
http://www.granddistraction.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/tbm.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU6pi_-LmiU
http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=97
http://projectcamelot.org/underground_bases.html
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 07, 2013, 06:15 pm
i got to see it to beleive it, just give it time, and it wont even happen, they got people rights being infringed, and all that will go to hell, what they might do is just have it set up with like military industrial complexes, but not even that far
not even that far? military has nuclear powered boring machines that melt the earth and form a glass tube 60 feet wide miles under the earths crust. people live on it for 6 months at a time. there are underground freeways all across the US and maglev bullet trains that travel at mach 2 or 3. there are over 1,400 underground military bases in the US alone. switzerland has them, germany has them, and you dont think military will at least use THIS simlpe technology? lol get real military is hundreds of years ahead of civilian technology.

Please list sources for these ridiculous claims.  The military gets all of their technology from civilian contractors.  They pay the contractors to control the "SOME" of the most advanced technology.. but that technology is not 100 years ahead.. If you have any idea how technology and Moore's law works, there's nothing even close to the exponential growth that Moore's law would provide (and that's just in processing capability).  Quantum Mechanics is the leading edge of computing technology, and the goverment hasn't figured that out yet... Civilians are coming close
LOL DO YOU LIVE NUDER A ROCK?! OBVIOUSLY YOU DONT DO RESEARCH AND NEVER BEEN IN THE MILITARY ;)

now do your own motherfucking research next time before making ridiculous claims dumbass.  use fucking google this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Quote
This is a $13 million tunnel boring machine (TBM) used for tunneling at the Nevada Test Site. (Remember that Area 51 is part of the test site.) Many other types of TBMs are used by many govt. agencies, including the "nuclear powered TBM" that melts solid rock and leaves behind glass-like walls. Most tunneling activity is under military installations and all information is highly restricted. Former employees of said facilities have surfaced over the years to talk of massive underground installations in places like Area 51, Northrop Facility in Antelope Valley, Ca. (rumored to have 42 levels), and the Lockheed installation near Edwards, Ca.

http://projectcamelot.org/tunnel_boring_machine_4.jpg
http://theocculttruth.com/web_images/3.jpg
http://eyeofthefish.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/tbm_large.jpg
http://www.granddistraction.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/tbm.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU6pi_-LmiU
http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=97
http://projectcamelot.org/underground_bases.html
The 'Black Budget' currently consumes $1.25 trillion per year. At least this amount is used in black programs, like those concerned with deep underground military bases. Presently, there are 129 deep underground military bases in the United States. They have been building these 129 bases day and night, unceasingly, since the early 1940's. Some of them were built even earlier than that. These bases are basically large cities underground connected by high-speed magneto-leviton trains that have speeds up to Mach 2. Several books have been written about this activity.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 07, 2013, 06:17 pm
WHY DO YOU THINK THE US SMUGGLED TOP NAZI LEADERS AND SCIENTISTS INTO THE US AFTER WWII??
THE NAZIS HAD UNDERGROUND BASES TOO!
THEN AFTER WWII THE US STARTED WITH THEM!
ALSO BIOCHEMICAL WEAPONS!
AND HUMAN EXPERIMENTS!

YOU SHEEP!
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 07, 2013, 06:19 pm
The late (and presumably murdered) Phil Schneider spoke about what he called an Electro Magneto Leviton Train System that traveled at speeds in excess of Mach 2.

The VHST and its proposed routes, (vast advanced tunnel systems) at the time of it’s conception in the early 1970′s, fit and follow other underground base researchers findings as well as some of my own.

An interesting aspect within the Rand Corp. document is the fact that the tunnels are way to expansive to pump all of the air out at once to create the frictionless environment needed travel at speeds in excess of 10,000+ MPH.

The air has to be evacuated from the tunnel system in segments with large crucially timed mechanized door systems as the train passes through each vapor locked section.

Electrical and mechanical noises would ensue from such operation of massive airlock doors throughout the tunnel system once the underground bases or VHST were fully operational.

During this process strange air like sounds, hums, and mechanized sounds would persist especially if the tunnels were at a depth of 400 – 800 feet (semi shallow in underground base terms). Energy is also returned into the system as the trains decelerate.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 07, 2013, 06:21 pm
Most tunneling activity is under military installations and all information is highly restricted. Former employees of said facilities have surfaced over the years to talk of massive underground installations in places like Area 51, the Northrop facility in Antelope Valley, California (rumored to have 42 levels), and the Lockheed installation near Edwards, California.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 07, 2013, 06:25 pm
Titan just came online at the U.S. Department of Energy’s Oak Ridge National Laboratory. According to ORNL, Titan will be 10 times more powerful than its prior record-breaker, Jaguar, a Cray XT5 capable of just under 2 petaflops that came online in 2009.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 07, 2013, 06:26 pm
How much memory? Try over 700 terabytes.

http://techland.time.com/2012/11/01/20-petaflops-titan-nvidia-aims-for-worlds-fastest-supercomputer-record/
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 07, 2013, 06:27 pm
 The CIA’s chief technology officer, Ira “Gus” Hunt, told an audience at an industry gathering, the GigaOM Structure Data conference, on March 20 that the agency strives to gather every kind of communication that exists—text messages, tweets, emails, videos, etc.

 

“The problem of Big Data,” Hunt said, “is the following: the database of useless information is 500 million gigabytes, the database of useful information is 5K. Our problem is, which 5K?”

 

“The value of any piece of information is only known when you can connect it with something else that arrives at a future point in time,” Hunt said. “Since you can’t connect dots you don’t have, it drives us into a mode of fundamentally trying to collect everything and hang on to it forever, forever being in quotes of course.”

http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/cia-strategy-collect-all-data-and-keep-it-forever-130325?news=849534
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 07, 2013, 06:34 pm
you sillybastard it's okay most of the world's population are sheeple :)

and that's why shit hasn't changed
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 07, 2013, 06:34 pm
i mean SHIT the military had dial up internet modems in the 1950s!
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 07, 2013, 06:35 pm
The Oak Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL) campus in Oak Ridge Tennessee will soon play host once again to the fastest computer in the world (barring any new sudden announcements by the Chinese). The computer, dubbed "Titan" has been commissioned by the U.S. Department of Energy, and is expected to achieve 20,000 trillion calculations (20 petaflops) per second.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 07, 2013, 06:41 pm
where do you live that civilians have underground cities and ride trains that travel at over mach 2??

also if they got the vacuum shit working in the glass tubes then they are much over mach 2 now.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: BreakingBad123 on April 07, 2013, 11:17 pm
Fuck this.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: nameviolated on April 07, 2013, 11:42 pm
Now that's what I call thread spam.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: badman666 on April 08, 2013, 12:46 am
yeah i've seen some research in a university with this using a terrahertz laser. though it wont be commercially viable any time soon - terrahertz lasers are extremely expensive. until a way is found to (relatively) cheaply produce them, i cant see them being implemented
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: badman666 on April 08, 2013, 01:04 am
There is a staggering amount of drug residue amongst the u.s. postal system -especially on packages that have nothing to do with drugs.  With that said, SR vendors will just have to adapt and package within a vacuum.

packaging within a vacuum wont do shit, the technology is based on the spectral behavior of the compounds being scanned. a very high frequency laser scans the materials on an atomic level, and can determine what the substance is regardless of what its packaged in
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Zanarkand on April 08, 2013, 01:12 am
successful business = innovation
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: BTC4CASH UK on April 08, 2013, 01:32 am
subbing for later reading
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: luckyinthesky on April 08, 2013, 03:17 am
technology is truly a double edged sword...
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: SilentWhisper on April 08, 2013, 04:39 am
Even if that comes out, no issue.  The vendors on SR will always be one step ahead of things. And SR is brillant in getting through the mail no matter what.  So as you can see Sr can't be beat.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 01:39 am
Bumping for visibility.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: TR0N on June 02, 2013, 01:59 am
@ Jack N Hoff

I agree that the american military industrial complex is totally fucked. Leading the charge for globalization, and the rabbit hole goes deeper than anyone would ever want to believe.

However, the capabilities of your local police are a far cry from the military. We are not fully Orwellian just yet.. and this technology is realistically probably not going to be deployed in airports or streets due to the obvious privacy concerns. That does not mean "they" won't use it, of course, but that does mean you will have to pop up on federal radar before having to worry about that kind of surveillance.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: boosties on June 02, 2013, 02:50 am
it will  definitely have a large impact on OS orders on here for sure. the only
question is will it be used in regular practice domestically in the states... i dont
think so(thats my fantasy anyway) hopefully it never gets to that point. alot of money
would have to be poured into USPS
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 02:52 am
it will  definitely have a large impact on OS orders on here for sure. the only
question is will it be used in regular practice domestically in the states... i dont
think so(thats my fantasy anyway) hopefully it never gets to that point. alot of money
would have to be poured into USPS

It isn't specifically for mail.  Who knows where or what they will use it for.  But holy shit, detecting molecules of drugs inside your body from 150 feet away!!! :o :o :o
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: boosties on June 02, 2013, 03:03 am
it will  definitely have a large impact on OS orders on here for sure. the only
question is will it be used in regular practice domestically in the states... i dont
think so(thats my fantasy anyway) hopefully it never gets to that point. alot of money
would have to be poured into USPS

It isn't specifically for mail.  Who knows where or what they will use it for.  But holy shit detecting molecules of drugs inside your body from 150 feet away!!! :o :o :o
Yeah NO THANKS!! i mean they use this technology in airports now with "electronic frisker" xray machine
where you hold your hands up and the xray spins 360 around you. im not sure if its exactly the same thing as the device/software your talkin about but i remember awhile back we flew through a us airport and
when everyone was passing through the xray machine,there were about ten to fifteen people on the sidelines with smartphones obviously linked to this machine. i think they were testing out all functions of it
as they looked at me funny i smoked earlier but didnt have anything on me. wierd:o
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 03:12 am
it will  definitely have a large impact on OS orders on here for sure. the only
question is will it be used in regular practice domestically in the states... i dont
think so(thats my fantasy anyway) hopefully it never gets to that point. alot of money
would have to be poured into USPS

It isn't specifically for mail.  Who knows where or what they will use it for.  But holy shit, detecting molecules of drugs inside your body from 150 feet away!!! :o :o :o
Yeah NO THANKS!! i mean they use this technology in airports now with "electronic frisker" xray machine
where you hold your hands up and the xray spins 360 around you. im not sure if its exactly the same thing as the device/software your talkin about but i remember awhile back we flew through a us airport and
when everyone was passing through the xray machine,there were about ten to fifteen people on the sidelines with smartphones obviously linked to this machine. i think they were testing out all functions of it
as they looked at me funny i smoked earlier but didnt have anything on me. wierd:o

Nothing like the devices in airports. Airports have x-rays and sometimes sniffers.  Sniffers have a very small micron filter and it sucks air through it and detects drug particles that hit the filter.  This is a laser device that can detect microscopic drug molecules from 150 feet away, even inside your body.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: streetelitist on June 02, 2013, 03:23 am
@Jack, you remind me of my father, you crazy conspiracy theorist you!

There's no doubt that governments around the world are hiding tons of crazy shit & have access to technology that none of us even know about.
But, I was curious as to why you believe in so many of these conspiracies. All of your findings are based on written articles and "first-hand" testimonies. Any of that could be completely fake. I've always been an extremely skeptical person and I was wondering how people come to conclusions on things they haven't seen first-hand. Such as religion, or anything for that matter.



Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 03:27 am
@Jack, you remind me of my father, you crazy conspiracy theorist you!

There's no doubt that governments around the world are hiding tons of crazy shit & have access to technology that none of us even know about.
But, I was curious as to why you believe in so many of these conspiracies. All of your findings are based on written articles and "first-hand" testimonies. Any of that could be completely fake. I've always been an extremely skeptical person and I was wondering how people come to conclusions on things they haven't seen first-hand. Such as religion, or anything for that matter.

No they aren't...  The government admits to the DUMBs and the drug scanning lasers and everything that I have said....  What part isn't true? lol
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: boosties on June 02, 2013, 03:29 am
it will  definitely have a large impact on OS orders on here for sure. the only
question is will it be used in regular practice domestically in the states... i dont
think so(thats my fantasy anyway) hopefully it never gets to that point. alot of money
would have to be poured into USPS

It isn't specifically for mail.  Who knows where or what they will use it for.  But holy shit, detecting molecules of drugs inside your body from 150 feet away!!! :o :o :o
Yeah NO THANKS!! i mean they use this technology in airports now with "electronic frisker" xray machine
where you hold your hands up and the xray spins 360 around you. im not sure if its exactly the same thing as the device/software your talkin about but i remember awhile back we flew through a us airport and
when everyone was passing through the xray machine,there were about ten to fifteen people on the sidelines with smartphones obviously linked to this machine. i think they were testing out all functions of it
as they looked at me funny i smoked earlier but didnt have anything on me. wierd:o

Nothing like the devices in airports. Airports have x-rays and sometimes sniffers.  Sniffers have a very small micron filter and it sucks air through it and detects drug particles that hit the filter.  This is a laser device that can detect microscopic drug molecules from 150 feet away, even inside your body.

That's crazy/scary/disturbing etc... do you know of any reported cases of its use?
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 03:32 am
it will  definitely have a large impact on OS orders on here for sure. the only
question is will it be used in regular practice domestically in the states... i dont
think so(thats my fantasy anyway) hopefully it never gets to that point. alot of money
would have to be poured into USPS

It isn't specifically for mail.  Who knows where or what they will use it for.  But holy shit, detecting molecules of drugs inside your body from 150 feet away!!! :o :o :o
Yeah NO THANKS!! i mean they use this technology in airports now with "electronic frisker" xray machine
where you hold your hands up and the xray spins 360 around you. im not sure if its exactly the same thing as the device/software your talkin about but i remember awhile back we flew through a us airport and
when everyone was passing through the xray machine,there were about ten to fifteen people on the sidelines with smartphones obviously linked to this machine. i think they were testing out all functions of it
as they looked at me funny i smoked earlier but didnt have anything on me. wierd:o

Nothing like the devices in airports. Airports have x-rays and sometimes sniffers.  Sniffers have a very small micron filter and it sucks air through it and detects drug particles that hit the filter.  This is a laser device that can detect microscopic drug molecules from 150 feet away, even inside your body.

That's crazy/scary/disturbing etc... do you know of any reported cases of its use?

They finished development last year and it isn't used for anything that we know of yet.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: boosties on June 02, 2013, 03:35 am
well shit thats good at least! im sure they are in beta testing somewhere...
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: cmos56 on June 02, 2013, 03:44 am
sorry i dont believe a fuck about these military conspiracy stories.. the sources, come on, theocculttruth.com? It's like proving the bible is right because it is written in it that god himself said those words or inspired somehow the writers (i hear that ridiculous argument all the time by christians). I had a friend who would source his alien visiting earth claims with ridiculous websites such as iloveovnis.com and stuff like that.

And  the laser thing, even if it is true i don't believe it will ever be used to anything. Why would any government have so much interest and spend so much money to know what the fuck is in people's body. Makes no sense. Do you also believe we have eletronic chips implanted to keep track of our activities (i also heard that one many times. I had another friend who REALLY believed vaccines were ultrananorobots that would enter your body and send out info on you for "the government".

also: calm down before spitting out post after post after post, it's annoying and nobody reads it. give time for people to read each thing you write. just some common sense etiquette. sorry for sounding harsh, i'm actually being honest.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 03:48 am
sorry i dont believe a fuck about these military conspiracy stories.. the sources, come on, theocculttruth.com? It's like proving the bible is right because it is written in it that god himself said those words or inspired somehow the writers (i hear that ridiculous argument all the time by christians). I had a friend who would source his alien visiting earth claims with ridiculous websites such as iloveovnis.com and stuff like that.

And  the laser thing, even if it is true i don't believe it will ever be used to anything. Why would any government have so much interest and spend so much money to know what the fuck is in people's body. Makes no sense. Do you also believe we have eletronic chips implanted to keep track of our activities (i also heard that one many times. I had another friend who REALLY believed vaccines were ultrananorobots that would enter your body and send out info on you for "the government".

also: calm down before spitting out post after post after post, it's annoying and nobody reads it. give time for people to read each thing you write. just some common sense etiquette. sorry for sounding harsh, i'm actually being honest.

Ummmm, the government admits to all of the mentioned stuff.  They already spent the money and developed the lasers.  The tunnel boring machines and nuclear tunnel boring machines are decades old.  I am sorry you are naive lol.  I mean, they admit to it.  This stuff isn't a secret it is just not known by everyone because it isn't on TV like the unimportant garbage that is always on the news. ::)
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: srcamelfeeder on June 02, 2013, 03:50 am
Just like with anything they will have to figure out what they will actually use it for and how much they are willing to spend or justify - with budgets being scrutinized you better come up with a good reason to spend cash nowadays regardless of the organization
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 03:51 am
sorry i dont believe a fuck about these military conspiracy stories.. the sources, come on, theocculttruth.com? It's like proving the bible is right because it is written in it that god himself said those words or inspired somehow the writers (i hear that ridiculous argument all the time by christians). I had a friend who would source his alien visiting earth claims with ridiculous websites such as iloveovnis.com and stuff like that.

And  the laser thing, even if it is true i don't believe it will ever be used to anything. Why would any government have so much interest and spend so much money to know what the fuck is in people's body. Makes no sense. Do you also believe we have eletronic chips implanted to keep track of our activities (i also heard that one many times. I had another friend who REALLY believed vaccines were ultrananorobots that would enter your body and send out info on you for "the government".

also: calm down before spitting out post after post after post, it's annoying and nobody reads it. give time for people to read each thing you write. just some common sense etiquette. sorry for sounding harsh, i'm actually being honest.

Ummmm, the government admits to all of the mentioned stuff.  They already spent the money and developed the lasers.  The tunnel boring machines and nuclear tunnel boring machines are decades old.  I am sorry you are naive lol.  I mean, they admit to it.  This stuff isn't a secret it is just not known by everyone because it isn't on TV like the unimportant garbage that is always on the news. ::)

Here is the wikipedia page for standard tunnel boring machines which we have had since the 1950s at latest.  I can't remember if they were invented in the 40s or 50s to be honest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_boring_machine
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: boosties on June 02, 2013, 03:54 am
sorry i dont believe a fuck about these military conspiracy stories.. the sources, come on, theocculttruth.com? It's like proving the bible is right because it is written in it that god himself said those words or inspired somehow the writers (i hear that ridiculous argument all the time by christians). I had a friend who would source his alien visiting earth claims with ridiculous websites such as iloveovnis.com and stuff like that.

And  the laser thing, even if it is true i don't believe it will ever be used to anything. Why would any government have so much interest and spend so much money to know what the fuck is in people's body. Makes no sense. Do you also believe we have eletronic chips implanted to keep track of our activities (i also heard that one many times. I had another friend who REALLY believed vaccines were ultrananorobots that would enter your body and send out info on you for "the government".

also: calm down before spitting out post after post after post, it's annoying and nobody reads it. give time for people to read each thing you write. just some common sense etiquette. sorry for sounding harsh, i'm actually being honest.
and as for the chips that are implanted in your neck or whatever... they dont have to its in your phone!!!
and its called nfc it tracks and creates a file of you and your habits...without you knowing about it.
probably wouldnt use it against your average person. but if you are a threat/ or a persin of interest to
them.... well im sure you will know about it.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 03:58 am
Damn some crazy shit Jack, lol as you can see they have done a great job into turning people into such greatly mannered Sheep lol, it is sad. I am sure part of the so called, "HiveMind" programming is to make people extremely skeptical, that way even if a tiny scratch of their "hidden surface" happens, most civilians will just turn a blind eye to it and think, "hahaha yeah right". Heres a funny example, as I am sure most "average" people do not use high powered telescopes ever, yet they will all believe there is an object in space if they are told on the news or something. There will be no question to its existence. Why do people trust the government and the news so much? I would very much easily be able to believe an article or something, that stems from a journalist of some kind (regardless of their experience) than the scumbags we call Government. But maybe this is because I have broken through the "HiveMind"? I dont know. And yes there is some sort of "hivemind" being implemented on the people regardless of how its done, it is quite obvious. I have tried to explain chemtrails to some people and stuff, and I have had many people even give me the exact same response, word for word, It is actually kind of creepy to be honest. But it is true, we live in a nation of blind people, most completely dependant on their daddy government. People are slowly waking up though, I feel there are many more people with opened eyes than in say 2010, but not quite enough yet. I can feel it though... there is a revolution of sorts brewing, Its gonna be bigger than any other before, I almost sure of that.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: srcamelfeeder on June 02, 2013, 04:01 am
Yes - sheep are indeed everywhere - but you have to try and maintain focus on both sides - the media is def fucked - there is no doubt in that
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 04:03 am
They also have RFID chips in all passports, ID's and even credit cards. These chips are extremely easy to hack, it is kind of scary. And someone, I wont name names because I will be labeled a conspiracy nut, but someone has EVERYONE implanted with thousands of little nanobots, dont bash on me either because I have done REAL research with my own 1000x color microscope and know what the fuck I am talking about. Only thing scientists at the Carnicom Institute have been able to find out is they are mostly made of silicon, and they turn the Iron in your blood from +2 molecule to a +3 which restricts the amount of oxygen being carried to all of your organs. Someone is deliberately killing us, literally snuffing us out. I am currently experimenting with colloidal silver, and if anyone is interested in trying to get rid of their own nanobots, pm me.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 04:08 am
Damn some crazy shit Jack, lol as you can see they have done a great job into turning people into such greatly mannered Sheep lol, it is sad. I am sure part of the so called, "HiveMind" programming is to make people extremely skeptical, that way even if a tiny scratch of their "hidden surface" happens, most civilians will just turn a blind eye to it and think, "hahaha yeah right". Heres a funny example, as I am sure most "average" people do not use high powered telescopes ever, yet they will all believe there is an object in space if they are told on the news or something. There will be no question to its existence. Why do people trust the government and the news so much? I would very much easily be able to believe an article or something, that stems from a journalist of some kind (regardless of their experience) than the scumbags we call Government. But maybe this is because I have broken through the "HiveMind"? I dont know. And yes there is some sort of "hivemind" being implemented on the people regardless of how its done, it is quite obvious. I have tried to explain chemtrails to some people and stuff, and I have had many people even give me the exact same response, word for word, It is actually kind of creepy to be honest. But it is true, we live in a nation of blind people, most completely dependant on their daddy government. People are slowly waking up though, I feel there are many more people with opened eyes than in say 2010, but not quite enough yet. I can feel it though... there is a revolution of sorts brewing, Its gonna be bigger than any other before, I almost sure of that.

A revolution brewing.....  Maybe that is why the department of homeland security recently purchased enough hollow point ammunition to shoot every person in America five or six times and bought a few thousand MRAP armored tank trucks for use within the United States?  Hmmm...  I still don't understand why they bought all of that.  Or why they have thousands of empty prisons that are fully staffed and ready to take in millions of prisoners...  They say for an emergency....  Rex 84 allows for the government to take all personal vehicles take control of all airways, roadways and everything and allows the government to put Americans into camps and to "educate" them and force them to work.  Readiness Exercise 1984 is crazy if you ask me.  Forced labor camps?  No thanks!  That reminds me of concentration camps!
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: boosties on June 02, 2013, 04:13 am
Damn some crazy shit Jack, lol as you can see they have done a great job into turning people into such greatly mannered Sheep lol, it is sad. I am sure part of the so called, "HiveMind" programming is to make people extremely skeptical, that way even if a tiny scratch of their "hidden surface" happens, most civilians will just turn a blind eye to it and think, "hahaha yeah right". Heres a funny example, as I am sure most "average" people do not use high powered telescopes ever, yet they will all believe there is an object in space if they are told on the news or something. There will be no question to its existence. Why do people trust the government and the news so much? I would very much easily be able to believe an article or something, that stems from a journalist of some kind (regardless of their experience) than the scumbags we call Government. But maybe this is because I have broken through the "HiveMind"? I dont know. And yes there is some sort of "hivemind" being implemented on the people regardless of how its done, it is quite obvious. I have tried to explain chemtrails to some people and stuff, and I have had many people even give me the exact same response, word for word, It is actually kind of creepy to be honest. But it is true, we live in a nation of blind people, most completely dependant on their daddy government. People are slowly waking up though, I feel there are many more people with opened eyes than in say 2010, but not quite enough yet. I can feel it though... there is a revolution of sorts brewing, Its gonna be bigger than any other before, I almost sure of that.

A revolution brewing.....  Maybe that is why the department of homeland security recently purchased enough hollow point ammunition to shoot every person in America five or six times and bought a few thousand MRAP armored tank trucks for use within the United States?  Hmmm...  I still don't understand why they bought all of that.  Or why they have thousands of empty prisons that are fully staffed and ready to take in millions of prisoners...  They say for an emergency....  Rex 84 allows for the government to take all personal vehicles take control of all airways, roadways and everything and allows the government to put Americans into camps and to "educate" them and force them to work.  Readiness Exercise 1984 is crazy if you ask me.  Forced labor camps?  No thanks!  That reminds me of concentration camps!
Yes it certainly seems as though they are preparing for total choas!! saw the videos of the
MRAP's being transported on the trains...scary shit!
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: cmos56 on June 02, 2013, 04:14 am
sorry i dont believe a fuck about these military conspiracy stories.. the sources, come on, theocculttruth.com? It's like proving the bible is right because it is written in it that god himself said those words or inspired somehow the writers (i hear that ridiculous argument all the time by christians). I had a friend who would source his alien visiting earth claims with ridiculous websites such as iloveovnis.com and stuff like that.

And  the laser thing, even if it is true i don't believe it will ever be used to anything. Why would any government have so much interest and spend so much money to know what the fuck is in people's body. Makes no sense. Do you also believe we have eletronic chips implanted to keep track of our activities (i also heard that one many times. I had another friend who REALLY believed vaccines were ultrananorobots that would enter your body and send out info on you for "the government".

also: calm down before spitting out post after post after post, it's annoying and nobody reads it. give time for people to read each thing you write. just some common sense etiquette. sorry for sounding harsh, i'm actually being honest.
and as for the chips that are implanted in your neck or whatever... they dont have to its in your phone!!!
and its called nfc it tracks and creates a file of you and your habits...without you knowing about it.
probably wouldnt use it against your average person. but if you are a threat/ or a persin of interest to
them.... well im sure you will know about it.

Yeah I know how it works, but that's obvious and much less ludicrous than saying you have nanorobots implanted, and that is what i hear from crazy paranoid conspiracy people, and i've known many of them cause one of my best friends went cuckoo. It started with relatively plausible things and soon developed to a full blown psychosis when he would think his gmail account was being watched -- and I mean REALLY watched as someone sitting and reading through his email-- because he was spreading "the truth", and eventually led him to quit his job to run to the hills (sounds really really ridiculous) to prepare a bunker and stock food for the upcoming alien war that was to happen december 2012 (rings a bell?), and that I would know for sure he was right when the pyramids started to explode -- yeah THAT crazy). Of course, nothing of the sort happened. Neither the military appeared at his doorstep. So, i'm not speaking about how cell phones can trace you, or about how bits of info you type everyday in the clearweb can be used to profile you, or how having a facebook account is obviously helping "them" keep track of you and what you do and what you know, because that is obvious. I'm talking about really crazy shit. I'm sorry i'm kinda skeptic, and do want to believe some of these stuff because i find them interesting but some claims are clearly paranoid (and i dont mean 'oh i think my mails being watched' kind of paranoid. I mean REAL schizofrenic paranoia).

As for the projects the military ddevelops, of coirse there are things we don't know, for they are strategic stuff against other countries. Just because we are in a "democracy" and globalization and cosmopolitan countries and all that bullshit doesnt mean we are not at constant war risk. Simply vecause that is what we humans do. We create empires and destroy and slave everyone else. So I dont think military money would be spent in detecting what is in peoples bodies, but rather to develop crazy belical stuff, bombs, bunkers, things that would come in handy at war time. just my opinion, not in anyway "the truth" as there is not such truth. there is reality and we can't know everything about reality, that's just old and good instinctive fear.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: SmashBros on June 02, 2013, 04:25 am
i got to see it to beleive it, just give it time, and it wont even happen, they got people rights being infringed, and all that will go to hell, what they might do is just have it set up with like military industrial complexes, but not even that far
not even that far? military has nuclear powered boring machines that melt the earth and form a glass tube 60 feet wide miles under the earths crust. people live on it for 6 months at a time. there are underground freeways all across the US and maglev bullet trains that travel at mach 2 or 3. there are over 1,400 underground military bases in the US alone. switzerland has them, germany has them, and you dont think military will at least use THIS simlpe technology? lol get real military is hundreds of years ahead of civilian technology.
Depends where you jump on the conspiracy bandwagon
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: boosties on June 02, 2013, 04:26 am
one thing is for certain! we will NEVER know all of the capabilities of the
Government. i mean ill agree that to what extent you take this information differentiates
between normal people and the guy in the walmart with a pot on his head introducing
himself as Sargent Pepper and hes here to save you!!!! but if the technology was control by a
totalitarian mindset..... well guess we will never know!
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 04:33 am
i got to see it to beleive it, just give it time, and it wont even happen, they got people rights being infringed, and all that will go to hell, what they might do is just have it set up with like military industrial complexes, but not even that far
not even that far? military has nuclear powered boring machines that melt the earth and form a glass tube 60 feet wide miles under the earths crust. people live on it for 6 months at a time. there are underground freeways all across the US and maglev bullet trains that travel at mach 2 or 3. there are over 1,400 underground military bases in the US alone. switzerland has them, germany has them, and you dont think military will at least use THIS simlpe technology? lol get real military is hundreds of years ahead of civilian technology.
Depends where you jump on the conspiracy bandwagon

This stuff isn't secret...  The US government admits it... ::)

Some countries have some of those maglev trains above ground for civilian use that travel like 800mph.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 04:37 am
Yep when people start to wake up to the truth, they target you, they make you go insane, I have seen it happen multiple times, Lol, I have a very high IQ and most certainly not crazy, the only drug I do much is smoke weed. I am only paranoid in the sense a drug dealer is. As for all the crazy shit I have discovered about conspiracies and shit, I am not paranoid, I am genuinely concerned, but I am not going to try and sit here and preach to people with closed minds to these things. No one even bothers to research for themselves, and the nanabot thing is funny cause the only way to describe it to anyone sounds like a straight Sci-Fi movie. But hey I KNOW without a doubt the nanofilaments are inside me, when I get them out, if I ever fucking can, I would believe that would put me a HUGE notch higher in awareness than 99% of the population, SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN FOUND INSIDE EVERY SINGLE PERSON TESTED FOR THEM. But hey bro, dont listen to me, I am obviously just pulling my own personal experiences out of my ass and they have no real ground realating to your personal reality at all, I am sure you also have no pesticides, cancerous chemicals, or fouride in your brain as well. Lol I am not telling people to freak out about this shit, that is what "they want you to do. But it would behoove one to be aware of their own surroundings... just sayin
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: boosties on June 02, 2013, 04:46 am
Yep when people start to wake up to the truth, they target you, they make you go insane, I have seen it happen multiple times, Lol, I have a very high IQ and most certainly not crazy, the only drug I do much is smoke weed. I am only paranoid in the sense a drug dealer is. As for all the crazy shit I have discovered about conspiracies and shit, I am not paranoid, I am genuinely concerned, but I am not going to try and sit here and preach to people with closed minds to these things. No one even bothers to research for themselves, and the nanabot thing is funny cause the only way to describe it to anyone sounds like a straight Sci-Fi movie. But hey I KNOW without a doubt the nanofilaments are inside me, when I get them out, if I ever fucking can, I would believe that would put me a HUGE notch higher in awareness than 99% of the population, SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN FOUND INSIDE EVERY SINGLE PERSON TESTED FOR THEM. But hey bro, dont listen to me, I am obviously just pulling my own personal experiences out of my ass and they have no real ground realating to your personal reality at all, I am sure you also have no pesticides, cancerous chemicals, or fouride in your brain as well. Lol I am not telling people to freak out about this shit, that is what "they want you to do. But it would behoove one to be aware of their own surroundings... just sayin
listen i agree with you that lots of fucked up shit goes on!! and i agree with your point of view!
i vote,protest where i can and feel necc.  can i ask where the info is from? and hows the control group set
if every single person tested has them? is the data compared from previous years? just curious.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: ScorpiaMuEre on June 02, 2013, 04:47 am
Well. So they built a better mousetrap?

Time for the mouse to up his game, no?
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: cmos56 on June 02, 2013, 04:51 am
Yep when people start to wake up to the truth, they target you, they make you go insane, I have seen it happen multiple times, Lol, I have a very high IQ and most certainly not crazy, the only drug I do much is smoke weed. I am only paranoid in the sense a drug dealer is. As for all the crazy shit I have discovered about conspiracies and shit, I am not paranoid, I am genuinely concerned, but I am not going to try and sit here and preach to people with closed minds to these things. No one even bothers to research for themselves, and the nanabot thing is funny cause the only way to describe it to anyone sounds like a straight Sci-Fi movie. But hey I KNOW without a doubt the nanofilaments are inside me, when I get them out, if I ever fucking can, I would believe that would put me a HUGE notch higher in awareness than 99% of the population, SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN FOUND INSIDE EVERY SINGLE PERSON TESTED FOR THEM. But hey bro, dont listen to me, I am obviously just pulling my own personal experiences out of my ass and they have no real ground realating to your personal reality at all, I am sure you also have no pesticides, cancerous chemicals, or fouride in your brain as well. Lol I am not telling people to freak out about this shit, that is what "they want you to do. But it would behoove one to be aware of their own surroundings... just sayin

ok, so they inserted nanofillaments in 6 billion people. sorry, that simply can't even remotely be possible.
Man, we will all live our times on earth, die and nothing will ever happen, like it never did. We are simply more capable of controling people's lives than before because of technology, but we humans have always done that, we have always controlled our slaves, there's nothing new or secret or occult about that.

also, iq tests mean shit. i have high iq as well, that means nothing. iq tests assess a certain spectrum of intelligence that in no way covers all kinds of thinking. we can't even prove iq is something you're born with, or if it is because of contextual social exposure (positive and/or negative feedback) we are excentric, socially withdrawn and develop this specific kind of analytical intelligence.

oh sorry i don't agree with you guys, guess that will lend me another negative karma. this feature is such a nice inventive thing, but people use it to bully like they are in highschool. pathetic.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 04:53 am
the control group is set by running the fibers through the FBI's machine that analyizes manmade fibers and has a database storing EVERY kind of manmade fibers and the differences between different manufactures and stuff. Guess what? NO MATCH, whatsoever. check out carnicominstitute.org if you wanna learn more about the nanofilaments, not much else to do about them but learn about them, but I encourage people to read about them, and then take their own skin samples and whatnot and check it out in a microscope, preferably colored. They are also known as morgelleons fibers, since some people get physical symptoms of sores that heal extremely slowly or not at all and produce fibrous materials and other very weird things from them. Lol I agree this shit is bat nuts crazy, but the craziness is not inside my mind I can assure you that lol
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 04:56 am
Haha, ok man whatever you wanna believe, but they FUCKING SPRAY THEM ON US ON A DAILY BASIS VIA CHEMTRAILING, or GEOENGINERING PROJECTS if you wanna call us that, but do some research before you start saying stuff isnt true, you obviously dont have a clue what I am talking about, and do not care anyways. I do wish to open peoples eyes, but in the condition the world is in now I am mostly worried about my own well being and health and will use most of my energy for that purpose, not argueing with sheep =p
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: cmos56 on June 02, 2013, 04:58 am
lol
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 05:01 am
Yes bro just laugh it off, just curious, are you ever in the middle of a sentence and know 100% the word you are about to say yet you completely forget it at the same time? And it pisses you off until finally you eventually remember the word? But usaully it is a simple word you cannot understand how you forgot it in the first place?
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 05:04 am
the control group is set by running the fibers through the FBI's machine that analyizes manmade fibers and has a database storing EVERY kind of manmade fibers and the differences between different manufactures and stuff. Guess what? NO MATCH

100% true!  I researched all that shit a long time ago.  They can match a fiber from the carpet of a 1970 Chevy but the government claims that they have no idea what morgellons fibers are.... ::)
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 05:05 am
People all over America have morgellons fibers.  I have seen it in person.  I have seen them move.  I don't know that everyone does like not_a_seep claims but I have seen it myself.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 05:08 am
Yep, but for somereason noone thinks that is significant, well I think its fucking nuts, why do we have ALIEN FIBERS IMBEDDED IN OUR LIVING TISSUES! but a good video that connects a lot of the things your are saying make this inconcievable (which it is very far from) is "What Are They Spraying" Its a pretty informative document on chemtrailing and its link to the fibers and other toxic chemicals showing up in soil and water samples ALL OVER THE PLANET, but I would assume documentaries just "arent your thing" cmos, lol
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 05:12 am
Also, I am not worried about what people like or do not like, I am worried about hard facts, things I can observe with my own senses. I am not here to make crazy outlandish claims as everything I have said is backed by 100% true research. I also will not rant much more about it as most people who's eyes are still closed for whatever reason seem to never be able to wrap their heads around these ideas, without a speck of their own research automatically reverting to the same though, "Oh that is fucking nuts, he is crazy haha"
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: boosties on June 02, 2013, 05:12 am
the control group is set by running the fibers through the FBI's machine that analyizes manmade fibers and has a database storing EVERY kind of manmade fibers and the differences between different manufactures and stuff. Guess what? NO MATCH

100% true!  I researched all that shit a long time ago.  They can match a fiber from the carpet of a 1970 Chevy but the government claims that they have no idea what morgellons fibers are.... ::)
more what i meant was, is it absolutely certain that a human being with no exposure to  environmental conditions(tough to do come up with) or that humans a decade ago didnt have the same
fibers? or 50yrs ago etc... i guess what i mean is these fibers cannot be somehow be produced by the human body? they are definitely man made?
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 05:16 am
Yes they are 100% proven manmade, their structures can only be described as a mix between genetically modified virus cells, a type of parasitic fungus, and 1 or 2 other things I cant exactly remember, trust me bro they are not natural, lab tests show they are majorly comprised of silicon which is commenly used in a lot of nanbot technology applications. But they have been spraying them on us, feeding them to us, and we have been bathing in them for over 10 years easily now. If you saw these things come out of your body I am sure you wouldnt even be asking that question lol. Not tryina bash ya or anything as I find your interest uplifitng =) You are not as much a sheep as some other people.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 05:20 am
They are made of fully inorganic materials, and small enough to fit inside a human cell. From a carnicom institute study first logged in May 16 this year, they found that the filaments are converting the Fe+2 in our hemaglobin to Fe+3 which makes it horribly inefficient at bonding with oxygen, literally depriving us of oxygen, haha makes me wanna get a tank of pure O2, anyone have a source for those?? And a good way to hookup a breather since it is liquidized and extremely cold?
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 05:21 am
Yep, but for somereason noone thinks that is significant, well I think its fucking nuts, why do we have ALIEN FIBERS IMBEDDED IN OUR LIVING TISSUES! but a good video that connects a lot of the things your are saying make this inconcievable (which it is very far from) is "What Are They Spraying" Its a pretty informative document on chemtrailing and its link to the fibers and other toxic chemicals showing up in soil and water samples ALL OVER THE PLANET, but I would assume documentaries just "arent your thing" cmos, lol

The water samples are VERY telling.  The amounts of metals in lined pongs are FUCKING ASTONISHING!  Also on water run off from the snow of mountains and on all water in nature.  Levels are way way way way higher than they should ever be.

the control group is set by running the fibers through the FBI's machine that analyizes manmade fibers and has a database storing EVERY kind of manmade fibers and the differences between different manufactures and stuff. Guess what? NO MATCH

100% true!  I researched all that shit a long time ago.  They can match a fiber from the carpet of a 1970 Chevy but the government claims that they have no idea what morgellons fibers are.... ::)
more what i meant was, is it absolutely certain that a human being with no exposure to  environmental conditions(tough to do come up with) or that humans a decade ago didnt have the same
fibers? or 50yrs ago etc... i guess what i mean is these fibers cannot be somehow be produced by the human body? they are definitely man made?

Completely synthetic.  Not from the human body.

www.morgellonsexposed.com
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: boosties on June 02, 2013, 05:22 am
Yes they are 100% proven manmade, their structures can only be described as a mix between genetically modified virus cells, a type of parasitic fungus, and 1 or 2 other things I cant exactly remember, trust me bro they are not natural, lab tests show they are majorly comprised of silicon which is commenly used in a lot of nanbot technology applications. But they have been spraying them on us, feeding them to us, and we have been bathing in them for over 10 years easily now. If you saw these things come out of your body I am sure you wouldnt even be asking that question lol. Not tryina bash ya or anything as I find your interest uplifitng =) You are not as much a sheep as some other people.
parasitic fungus.... interesting! gee thanks.... i think im a very open minded person i personally just
like facts and there is alot of fucked up stuff that goes on behind the curtain in this world!
wonder if they could be a by-product of some type industrial production or waste? either way its very disturbing!
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: cmos56 on June 02, 2013, 05:22 am
Well my thing is real academic research. Documentaries mean nothing. And actually you're being the one saying things you don't know about, like presuming i'm some moron stupid sheep who believes what the tv is broadcasting. Actually, I did research and I do know what you are talking about. I had a friend mail me new parts of the truth everyday. I read them all, saw all the videos, etc. But never saw or read anything from someone trustable. And he would always come up with the answer "that's because nobody knows about this stuff". So the plausible answer from me was "so you're saying there is noone that believes all this stuff that has studied them for real and published it?", and he would say "yeah, there is, but they are shut up by the government". So it comes to a point where it is plain fanatical religious thinking. You only believe your sources, they become sacred dogmas, any arguing that goes against it has a clever paradoxical answer (like the bible thing). And I really read all the stuf open minded as I am an open minded person and I do have my share of "conspiracy thoughts" that I believe are true. He simply couldn't convince me even when I was open to and wanting to be convinced. Even the psuedo academic stuff he showed me was clearly bogus for anyone who knows highschool physics. Well, guess I'll have to wait for "the truth" to come to me and stop bothering you guys. I'm off to sleep, my benzo's kicking in. see you around the forums.  ;)
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 05:27 am
Yeah, you're right cmos56.  Who believes science these days, we have religion to disprove that shit. ::)
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 05:30 am
Hahaha omg Cmos I will not even begin to point out some of the outlandish things you have said in this post, But yes you are very smart, just sit back and wait for the truth to come to you, I am sure thats how you will learn in this world
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 05:35 am
Oh yes and as for possibility of byproducts, these things GROW like organisms yet have no DNA, they are no accident I can tell you that, lol If you collect some you can literally grow them in a culture dish, their growth traits mimic the parasitic fungus I told you about, that is the only organism in the world that scientist could relate the filimentous growth of the fibers. They are literally nanobots, there is no other way to define them. They can only be measured with nanometers, they are completely synthetic yet behave as organisms. Some people that are very in touch with nature and their energy aura's can feel the electrical interference within their bodies produced by these nanofiliments, they hate it very much. Oh yes, ever laying in bed or something and get a weird, very faint crawling sensation that goes up your back? I used to think it was just normal, like an itch, but that is the nanobots moving lol. Freaky shit, but dont let it scare you, that is what whoever created these motherfuckers wants us to do, They are fear mongerers, so we must not give them our fear.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 05:40 am
Oh yes and as for possibility of byproducts, these things GROW like organisms yet have no DNA, they are no accident I can tell you that, lol If you collect some you can literally grow them in a culture dish, their growth traits mimic the parasitic fungus I told you about, that is the only organism in the world that scientist could relate the filimentous growth of the fibers. They are literally nanobots, there is no other way to define them. They can only be measured with nanometers, they are completely synthetic yet behave as organisms. Some people that are very in touch with nature and their energy aura's can feel the electrical interference within their bodies produced by these nanofiliments, they hate it very much. Oh yes, ever laying in bed or something and get a weird, very faint crawling sensation that goes up your back? I used to think it was just normal, like an itch, but that is the nanobots moving lol. Freaky shit, but dont let it scare you, that is what whoever created these motherfuckers wants us to do, They are fear mongerers, so we must not give them our fear.

You know they can't melt?  You can torch the fuckers and they don't melt.  The tip balls up and that's it.  I have read that they could be a carrier of some type.  Like a filament canister to carry something.  It's crazy that nobody can figure these things out.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 05:46 am
yep, I have put a torch lighter to a clump of the fibers extracted from my mouth with grape juice before for an entire minute, It just bubbled up like when you melt plastic, and was just the same as it started. They seem to drop a "payload" of some sort when exposed to high heat. It is usually of a copper color, and comes out as a goopy ball out the end. And even fiber samples taken from the air on top of a mountain were found to contain human blood cells where the DNA in the nucleus was altered. for those of you with to much flouride in your brain, A SAMPLE TAKEN STRAIGHT FROM THE AIR CONTAINED GENETICALLY MODIFIED HUMAN BLOOD CELLS. Hmmmm, that is strange, how could  human blood cells possibly be floating around, albeit completely de-hydrated by the way, in the air, over a thousand miles above sea level. That is one of the main pieces of evidence connecting the fibers to chemtrailing, and anyone who doesnt believe in chemtrails is a fucking sheep straight up. Very very high up people in the government dont even allow their children to go outside on heavy chemtrailing days, hmmmm maybe they are just crazy ass nutso people that dont know jack shit... right? lol
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: motek on June 02, 2013, 05:48 am
IMO these 'laser scanners' are possibly Too sensitive and therefore not a particularly good thing to use for drugs, as there is drug 'residue' polluting almost everything!

IIRC they tested the air in various Italian cities and could find easily detected levels cannabis, cocaine and caffeine! 
In fact they noted 'seasonal' variations in the use of these drugs were easily 'measured'!

This would be similar to drugs dogs who  'flag' people who are just wearing smelly clothes!  It happens a LOT!   

Can you imagine these scanners 'seeing' EVERY MOLECULE of cocaine on EVERYONE'S banknotes!?!
 IMHO this is the thing which will stop these being commonly used to detect drugs.

having them scan for explosives is another thing altogether, idk but I doubt the levels of 'explosive pollution' are nowhere near those of illicit drugs!



And as for these 'nano-fibres' well, I haven't seen them 'move' but i most definitely HAVE seen them!  IME the 'fibres' begin as a type of 'slime/infection' which is very sticky and gooey, under the eschars (scabs) of people with this 'problem'.  Often it occurs after some illness where the immune system has been 'compromised' to some degree.

 Much lick the way many viscous liquids will 'string' when stretched, this stuff does the same.   It is actually far more 'complex' than this, as it appears to 'start' with some type of fungal infestion on the skin, which seems to have 3 distinct 'variations' as to how it 'manifests' .... it's TRULY fuckin WEIRD SHIT!

And yes, they ITCH LIKE FUCK!!!

IF it is some type of 'bio-weapon' it's certainly an 'interesting' one!  idk but why would 'they' want to infect people with something which seems to be quite benign?

I can only speak for myself but aside from the skin factors it seems to have no other negative 'effects ???  maybe it's to 'soften us up' for the kill!?


who knows?  will 'we' ever?  I honestly have no idea!   I have NO doubt there ARE many things going on, paid for and maintained by govt's like the us one which we know SFA about!

The Chinese have a curse that says "may you live in interesting times" ... that is, "interesting times" are usually ones of great change and often turmoil!

just my 2 satoshi's


hmmmm motek
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 05:54 am
yep, I have put a torch lighter to a clump of the fibers extracted from my mouth with grape juice before for an entire minute, It just bubbled up like when you melt plastic, and was just the same as it started. They seem to drop a "payload" of some sort when exposed to high heat. It is usually of a copper color, and comes out as a goopy ball out the end. And even fiber samples taken from the air on top of a mountain were found to contain human blood cells where the DNA in the nucleus was altered. for those of you with to much flouride in your brain, A SAMPLE TAKEN STRAIGHT FROM THE AIR CONTAINED GENETICALLY MODIFIED HUMAN BLOOD CELLS. Hmmmm, that is strange, how could  human blood cells possibly be floating around, albeit completely de-hydrated by the way, in the air, over a thousand miles above sea level. That is one of the main pieces of evidence connecting the fibers to chemtrailing, and anyone who doesnt believe in chemtrails is a fucking sheep straight up. Very very high up people in the government dont even allow their children to go outside on heavy chemtrailing days, hmmmm maybe they are just crazy ass nutso people that dont know jack shit... right? lol

I almost forgot!  Have you ever had lyme disease????  That ties the whole thing together.  Everyone who has morgellons has had lyme disease or have the presence of borrelia burgdorferi in their body!  The bacteria that causes lyme disease!  I think that borrelia burgdorferi and/or lyme disease hurt your immunity, for lack of a better word, to morgellons.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 05:57 am
IMO these 'laser scanners' are possibly Too sensitive and therefore not a particularly good thing to use for drugs, as there is drug 'residue' polluting almost everything!

IIRC they tested the air in various Italian cities and could find easily detected levels cannabis, cocaine and caffeine! 
In fact they noted 'seasonal' variations in the use of these drugs were easily 'measured'!

This would be similar to drugs dogs who  'flag' people who are just wearing smelly clothes!  It happens a LOT!   

Can you imagine these scanners 'seeing' EVERY MOLECULE of cocaine on EVERYONE'S banknotes!?!
 IMHO this is the thing which will stop these being commonly used to detect drugs.

having them scan for explosives is another thing altogether, idk but I doubt the levels of 'explosive pollution' are nowhere near those of illicit drugs!

I love your thinking.  Keen!

And as for these 'nano-fibres' well, I haven't seen them 'move' but i most definitely HAVE seen them!  IME the 'fibres' begin as a type of 'slime/infection' which is very sticky and gooey, under the eschars (scabs) of people with this 'problem'.  Often it occurs after some illness where the immune system has been 'compromised' to some degree.

 Much lick the way many viscous liquids will 'string' when stretched, this stuff does the same.   It is actually far more 'complex' than this, as it appears to 'start' with some type of fungal infestion on the skin, which seems to have 3 distinct 'variations' as to how it 'manifests' .... it's TRULY fuckin WEIRD SHIT!

And yes, they ITCH LIKE FUCK!!!

IF it is some type of 'bio-weapon' it's certainly an 'interesting' one!  idk but why would 'they' want to infect people with something which seems to be quite benign?

I can only speak for myself but aside from the skin factors it seems to have no other negative 'effects ???  maybe it's to 'soften us up' for the kill!?


who knows?  will 'we' ever?  I honestly have no idea!   I have NO doubt there ARE many things going on, paid for and maintained by govt's like the us one which we know SFA about!

The Chinese have a curse that says "may you live in interesting times" ... that is, "interesting times" are usually ones of great change and often turmoil!

just my 2 satoshi's


hmmmm motek

I have read many of your posts and respect you and your intelligence and I am glad that you aren't a sheep like cmos56.  Do you think there is a correlation between these fibers and chemtrails?  Surely right?  I mean, how the fuck do they get all over the place like this.  What do you think motek?
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 02, 2013, 05:58 am
Oh yes, they have Many mental side effects, that are very subtle, I have not been able to prove them 100% because I have not been successful in removing them, But 100% scientific fact from legitimate research shows their role in depleting the oxygen supply in our blood, they make our hemaglobin much less effective at carrying oxygen molecules, That is definitely not something to take lightly. Once I find a way to rid them of my body I will know much much more, and they do move and grow, but very slowly. and I bet if you had that goo that showed up on your skin tested by a lab, significant amounts of silicon would be found =( We are truely living in a science fiction movie lol =p
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Kingkilroy on June 02, 2013, 07:38 am
@Jack N HOoff

Mind=Blown

I had a grasp on about half of these things but the tunnel systems and underground bases were actually new to me. Good sources from a good forum member. It would be childish to think SR will last forever, or even for a considerable amount of time,(10+ years) But even though the government will always have the upper hand, civilians will continue to innovate and create products, chemicals and ideas that this wonderful community will adapt to support our freedom. This isnt all about our habits, at least not for me, but our freedom. We are not free here and will never truly be free, But they better put me down or lock me up for life before i will stop fighting to hold the freedoms we have now.

Sorta related  :o  Had a conversation with an Ex-LE about gun control today, and was pleasantly surprised when he backed up my position on the government attempting to reclaim our weapons. That day will come, we already have them shitting bricks with our AR's, and when it does expect to see me right up on my front porch fighting back until they shoot me dead.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: motek on June 02, 2013, 08:01 am
HI Jack 'n Hoff, thanks for the compliment bro ... same with your posts, always interesting and informative.

As for the connection with 'chemtrails' and this 'infection' ... I honestly have no idea!

Downunder I have yet to see a 'chemtrail'  yet I got this bizzarre skin infection in the 90's after being 'immunocompromised' from treatment for an infection.

I've had dozens of drs simply dismiss my 'problems' as being self inflicted!   With a few of them 'punting for' me having  "delusional pariaitosis!"   FFS!! :o

 I cant believe the amount of "confirmation bias" these apparently 'trained scientists' HAVE!  And how they  oppose 'conditions' they dont comprehend!!

They often maintain quite a 'closed mind' when it comes to 'new' ideas which 'challenge' their beliefs! 

And even when they're PROVEN WRONG, arelikely to defend their positions! Fuckin drs!  Good ones are FEW and FAR apart!

The most recent shattering of a looong standing 'medical beliefs' was the discovery of 'helicobacter pyllorii" the bug which causes stomach ulcers. 

The (Australian) pathologist who discovered these buggers (and won a Nobel Prize over 15YEARS later!!!) had SO MUCH trouble 'convincing' his colleagues and any other medicos who would even listen to his 'ideas' that in frustration he eventually had a BIG batch of this bacterium 'made/grown' by a lab, than he went and had a lithoscopy of his stomach showing he had no ulcers ...
And then he drank the bacteria juice .... and got numerous severe (bleeding!) ulcers in a few days!! 

He then took the antibiotics he KNEW killed this particular bacterium AND "CURED" HIMSELF!!!

Suffice to say he started a revolution in gastroenterology which continues to this day!

Thanks everyone for an interesting read

ya mate mmmmmmmotek! :)
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: AlfalfaBillMurray on June 02, 2013, 08:24 am
those are called terahertz scanners I think.  they already exist and customs has them but they are not portable and take several minutes to scan a package.  I think a technology like this would violate the privacy of so many people, so throughly that there would be a public outcry against their use.  still they are scary as fuck either way. imagine one of those mounted on a drone flying over suburban neighborhoods, dispatching cops to everywhere that it detected the smallest trace of illegal substances...
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 04:34 pm
They often maintain quite a 'closed mind' when it comes to 'new' ideas which 'challenge' their beliefs! 

And even when they're PROVEN WRONG, arelikely to defend their positions! Fuckin drs!  Good ones are FEW and FAR apart!

The most recent shattering of a looong standing 'medical beliefs' was the discovery of 'helicobacter pyllorii" the bug which causes stomach ulcers. 

The (Australian) pathologist who discovered these buggers (and won a Nobel Prize over 15YEARS later!!!) had SO MUCH trouble 'convincing' his colleagues and any other medicos who would even listen to his 'ideas' that in frustration he eventually had a BIG batch of this bacterium 'made/grown' by a lab, than he went and had a lithoscopy of his stomach showing he had no ulcers ...
And then he drank the bacteria juice .... and got numerous severe (bleeding!) ulcers in a few days!! 

He then took the antibiotics he KNEW killed this particular bacterium AND "CURED" HIMSELF!!!

Suffice to say he started a revolution in gastroenterology which continues to this day!

Like when Louis Pasteur discovered germs and everyone, including scientist and doctors, called it fiction. ::)
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: zxydwx3 on June 02, 2013, 05:13 pm
Thanks Americans for voluntarily giving away your freedoms for a false sense of security! It would be OK if you Yanks just wanted less freedom for yourselves, (since it's your country, it's your business how you want to run it), but you have to force the rest of the world to go along with it.

I haven't been to the USA in 20 years, while I've probably been to 25ish other countries in that time.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: putinwork62 on June 02, 2013, 05:38 pm
SMFH Man fuck the law! I swear i fucking hate the so called "war on drugs" , drugs will always win... plain and simple
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Leftovercrackmaniac on June 02, 2013, 05:56 pm
Yea even if that did happen... One of our freedom fighter guys that supports our rights will create a jammer. And as said before.. We the people have the capability to have that taken away at least domestically.

If the Military was hundreds of years ahead of us technology wise then why haven't they been able to get rid of the darknet?
I can agree that as far as weaponry and things of the like that we are far behind.... But where do these people come from that build this shit for the Governments of the world???  Yea, Intelligent fucking Civilians. We are just as capable of doing exactly what the Govs do it just seems that everyone wants to do a lot of Bullshitting and lack the initiative to get together and get shit done.

Point is, We are 1000% responsible for the Governments having the power to run all over us like this because WE LET THEM.
It seems that as long as the majority has a roof over their head, a T.V in their living room, Government regulated Processed food on the table  and a degrading(?) dead beat job as well as the promise of a little Alcohol at the end of the day to wind down then everyone is perfectly content... It makes me so Goddamn SICK!!
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 06:00 pm
If the Military was hundreds of years ahead of us technology wise then why haven't they been able to get rid of the darknet?

They created it and support it. :o  They don't give a fuck about us, they need to remain anonymous when need be.  That is much more important to the government.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: deepinblu on June 02, 2013, 06:07 pm
I dont think this is going to work (definitely not in the next decade). There is drug residue everywhere. According to statistics, around 90% of British bank notes have traces of cocaine. And that is just one example. They will be getting false readings from everywhere, unless of course, they find a way of overcoming this problem
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Leftovercrackmaniac on June 02, 2013, 06:15 pm
Quote
They created it and support it. (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)  They don't give a fuck about us, they need to remain anonymous when need be.  That is much more important to the government.   

Hahahaha this  is true XD They did create it lmao. I wonder if they anticipated us using it against them lmao
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 06:16 pm
I dont think this is going to work (definitely not in the next decade). There is drug residue everywhere. According to statistics, around 90% of British bank notes have traces of cocaine. And that is just one example. They will be getting false readings from everywhere, unless of course, they find a way of overcoming this problem

Perhaps the levels?  Like drug tests, you can have a certain level of drugs in your body before you actually fail.  I don't know, just thinking.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: metacontxt on June 02, 2013, 06:32 pm
'The Chinese have a curse that says "may you live in interesting times" ... that is, "interesting times" are usually ones of great change and often turmoil!'

Actually, this is an urban myth. No such curse exists in Mandarin, nor any of the major dialects. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: dmc002 on June 02, 2013, 07:05 pm
The easiest solution to a laser scanner is to use reflective packaging. If the photon can not penetrate the packaging the scanner can not detect the contents. No need for fancy jammers.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 02, 2013, 10:06 pm
The easiest solution to a laser scanner is to use reflective packaging. If the photon can not penetrate the packaging the scanner can not detect the contents. No need for fancy jammers.

We are not talking about in the postal system and the laser scanning device can see all of the molecules though a human body so I highly doubt some dinky reflective shit will matter.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Leftovercrackmaniac on June 02, 2013, 10:36 pm
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We are not talking about in the postal system and the laser scanning device can see all of the molecules though a human body so I highly doubt some dinky reflective shit will matter.


I disagree with that... Reflective packaging could very well become a promising solution. Not to mention that the human body isn't reflective at all.
What scares me the most about this new little Idea which you've posted about is that if it is going to be so great at sensing drugs at what sounds like a near atomic level then what is stopping this from becoming the new drug testing gear for probation/parole offices?

And just a thought but.... There are X-Ray proof bags here on silkroad so I was wondering if it'd be possibl;e for those bags to block out photons as well as X-Rays?
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 03, 2013, 03:21 am
I guarantee you you could apply some sort of nano reflection application to outside of packaging with an aerosol can of sorts that could do some funky stuff to the laser energy. There are actually some really amazing things that can be done with nano technology.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 03, 2013, 03:27 am
There are actually some really amazing things that can be done with nano technology.

Like giving people morgellons!
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: motek on June 03, 2013, 08:19 am
Hmmm the more I think about it the more i think these 'lasers' (masers?) could be 'invasive' and actually see 'into' our bodies!

Certainly 'photons' wont penetrate much UNLESS  they are powerful enough to burn it! (as lasers can) which I seriously doubt is their 'method'

hey Jack I was reading some of those links and this stood out as suitable for everyone here ...

"DUMB's

Well, they were using tunneling machines back in the mid-90s that could tunnel through a rock face at seven miles per day, that could cut through a rock face with high-energy impact lasers that could blow the nano-sized particles of rock so that there was no debris left, forming an obsidian-like core, and laying an inner core for unidirectional maglev trains that travel at Mach 2 to 2.8 underground between these very very powerful and organized cities.

There's 132 under the United States, an average of 5.36 to 7.24 cubic miles in size at an average of 1.5 to 4.5 miles underground, built, by and large, most of them in areas away from geotectonic areas - but there's going to be lots of new geotectonic faults established when you have force 11, 12, 13, 14 earthquakes hit the Earth.

Why are they rushing to do this? Because they know that catastrophe is coming. And where's this money coming from? It's not coming from our regular Black Op budget. It's coming from the illegal sale of drugs. In the United States there's at least, by conservative estimates, a quarter of a trillion to a half a trillion of illegal drugs just sold in the United States that goes directly into underground budgets, and 90-95% goes to the DUMBs [Deep Underground Military Bases]."


Aaaaha!   It ALL makes sense now! lol!  :o
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 03, 2013, 04:37 pm
Hmmm the more I think about it the more i think these 'lasers' (masers?) could be 'invasive' and actually see 'into' our bodies!

Certainly 'photons' wont penetrate much UNLESS  they are powerful enough to burn it! (as lasers can) which I seriously doubt is their 'method'

hey Jack I was reading some of those links and this stood out as suitable for everyone here ...

"DUMB's

Well, they were using tunneling machines back in the mid-90s that could tunnel through a rock face at seven miles per day, that could cut through a rock face with high-energy impact lasers that could blow the nano-sized particles of rock so that there was no debris left, forming an obsidian-like core, and laying an inner core for unidirectional maglev trains that travel at Mach 2 to 2.8 underground between these very very powerful and organized cities.

There's 132 under the United States, an average of 5.36 to 7.24 cubic miles in size at an average of 1.5 to 4.5 miles underground, built, by and large, most of them in areas away from geotectonic areas - but there's going to be lots of new geotectonic faults established when you have force 11, 12, 13, 14 earthquakes hit the Earth.

Why are they rushing to do this? Because they know that catastrophe is coming. And where's this money coming from? It's not coming from our regular Black Op budget. It's coming from the illegal sale of drugs. In the United States there's at least, by conservative estimates, a quarter of a trillion to a half a trillion of illegal drugs just sold in the United States that goes directly into underground budgets, and 90-95% goes to the DUMBs [Deep Underground Military Bases]."


Aaaaha!   It ALL makes sense now! lol!  :o

Yes, they have said they can see inside our bodies and detect molecules within them.

I believe that they have over 1,400 of the underground bases in the US, not 132 and they have been using the non nuclear tunnel boring machines since the 40s or 50s not the 90s but now they have the crazy nuclear ones that you talked about that they can stay in underground for 6 months and travel miles a day and melt the rock into an airtight cylinder 60 feet wide.  Yes, I have thought that this could be funded with illegal money from importing cocaine and heroin and selling arms but I have no idea about that, just speculation because we never hear about it on the news or anything but the government doesn't hide it or deny it, they admit that these are there.  Yes, I have thought all of that this could possibly be for a dooms day thing or for the revolution.  Everyone important to the government has somewhere to go to get away from everything, underground cities that are all connected by maglev trains that travel above mach speed and underground freeways.  Pretty crazy stuff.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: pakchoi23 on June 03, 2013, 06:08 pm
Not A Sheep, Jack N Hoff and mmmm motek. +1 my friends for the best thread I have read in weeks.

I started to truly believe in these "conspiracy theories" after 9/11, I saw those building destroyed by controlled demolitions and my mind was blown that a government could do that to it's own people. From that sickening day I too have been researching, but my research hasn't gone as deep into morgellons as yours Not A Sheep.

I don't get lesions or scabs or weird goo or pus but I wouldn't be surprised if I, and everyone else were contaminated.
Hell, we're all contaminated, the whole world is contaminated with plastic molecules and that's just from decades of plastic use and the actions of the oceans and the sun on plastic, and that was inadvertent pollution. Imagine what could be done if you put your mind to it.

Plastic particles in every sea creature, on every beach, even th emost deserted pacific island, plastic particles in you and me.

Heavy, heady stuff.

Not A Sheep - If you do cure yourself with colloidal silver, how to prevent re-infection. Oh and what if your face turns blue, a dead give away you are onto "them" ;)

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: motek on June 04, 2013, 03:11 am
Thanks Pakchoi, right back at ya!


hey did anyone hear about the "explosion" tha apprently happened in an DUMB in Virginia last year?  It caused a tremor of 2-3 on the Richter scale!

I read somewhere it was the "scientist vs the aliens" and the 'scientists' destroyed a tunnel for some reason!


It had been said they have numerous humans in some type of detention in some of these bases, which are used for genetic experiments!

Personally I'd put money, shit, I'd put the house, the kids AND the car, on the FACT that the US (and other) govts HAVE some amazing technology they dont want the public to get their hands on, as it would completely upset the oil truck!

IMO it's the restrictions on 'energy' development, by the US govt (et al)  which have fucked things badly! 
sheesh back in the days of Nikola Tesla they were already working on complete control of 'power distribution'


As well as restricting other information about a huge range of things!   Some of the UFO footage I've seen suggests (to me) that many of these craft are terrestrial in origin.

As someone mentioned, they govt tent to try and keep technology of this nature secret, in the hope of having a trump card in a conflict. 
That they are prepared to 'sacrifice' millions or billions of people to maintain the 'status quo' which in all reality, is an impossible dream, demonstrates the sociopathic nature of this beast!

Great thread everyone, I have to say, the level of intelligent discussion here surpasses every other forum I've ever been on, (including the chemistry fora!)
It's great/awesome!

m m m motek ;)
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: 292mp on June 04, 2013, 03:42 am
this is gonna suck
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Jack N Hoff on June 04, 2013, 03:44 am
Thanks Pakchoi, right back at ya!


hey did anyone hear about the "explosion" tha apprently happened in an DUMB in Virginia last year?  It caused a tremor of 2-3 on the Richter scale!

I read somewhere it was the "scientist vs the aliens" and the 'scientists' destroyed a tunnel for some reason!


It had been said they have numerous humans in some type of detention in some of these bases, which are used for genetic experiments!

Personally I'd put money, shit, I'd put the house, the kids AND the car, on the FACT that the US (and other) govts HAVE some amazing technology they dont want the public to get their hands on, as it would completely upset the oil truck!

IMO it's the restrictions on 'energy' development, by the US govt (et al)  which have fucked things badly! 
sheesh back in the days of Nikola Tesla they were already working on complete control of 'power distribution'


As well as restricting other information about a huge range of things!   Some of the UFO footage I've seen suggests (to me) that many of these craft are terrestrial in origin.

As someone mentioned, they govt tent to try and keep technology of this nature secret, in the hope of having a trump card in a conflict. 
That they are prepared to 'sacrifice' millions or billions of people to maintain the 'status quo' which in all reality, is an impossible dream, demonstrates the sociopathic nature of this beast!

Great thread everyone, I have to say, the level of intelligent discussion here surpasses every other forum I've ever been on, (including the chemistry fora!)
It's great/awesome!

m m m motek ;)

I read all about that.  Have you read about Phil Schneider or watched his lectures?  He worked for the government for decades drilling the holes for DUMBs and doing geological shit.  He says he and others were attacked by aliens.  I can't begin to tell you the story.  There are other government workers that agree and also have stories.  Really really crazy stories.  They talk about all of the human experiments and the different levels underground and the clearance needed to get to them and stuff.  There is one government worker who specialized in photography and he got to go to many areas to set up security cams and other crap.  He ended up with level three something rather clearance and he said he has seen craaaaazy shit.  You arn't allowed to talk to the people in cages and you have to escort them around the workers were told that they are crazy people but they are really drugged humans that were abducted by the government for experiments.  He talked to some and got their names and looked them up and found out that they are actually missing people.  I don't know what the fuck to believe about all of this.

I DO KNOW THAT the CIA was well off into kidnapping children though!  Remember years ago when another agency was onto the kidapping of children and tracked them to a warehouse and all that was left was tons of children stuff like blankies and clothes and they had a video on how to abduct children...  There are so many missing people in the US every year, it's pretty crazy.

Government is evil and the world is crazy.

Oh yeah, look up that fire on youtube.  They had a fire in one of the DUMBs!  On youtube you see the smoke coming out of nowhere in the ground! Lol.  It was right next to TONS of radioactive waste and shit from when the government made a bunch of nuclear bombs back in the day.  There is a large underground base at Los Alamos.  That is where it was.  Look it up.
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: motek on June 04, 2013, 03:51 am
Yep I've seen the Phil Schneider talks, he's the dude with 2 fingers missing and a big arse scar on his stomach where he said he was 'zapped' by the aliens he encountered!


I actually read a bunch of those urls you listed Jack, pretty cool, but I've been into this stuff forever!


What get me is people who have the "conspiracy theorists" are tinfoil hat wearers!!  Conspiracy is OLDER than prostitution!   People have been conspiring since the dawn of time!

Shit, we're conspiring here!

You're absolutely correct Jack that these are craaazy craazytimes!

Keep up the good work team

makin my mull motek :)
Title: Re: the future is grim [article] drug scanning lasers
Post by: Adelphi on June 04, 2013, 03:55 am
Do what now ?
Title: Re: Laser based molecular scanners [newly developed technology]
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 09, 2013, 10:25 am
Fuck government! Every one grow a fuck ton of dank ass huge marijuana plants and sell that shit! fuck taxes, you deserve that money!
Title: Re: Laser based molecular scanners [newly developed technology]
Post by: DrDeepWood on June 09, 2013, 11:46 am
The fucked up thing is if they took all that sick technology and brain-power, they could 100% develop a machine that could scan entire crowds of people for lung cancer/bacterial infections/etc for medical purposes. 

The govt could take care of its people, costing nothing after the initial pay-off.  Of course, nobody wants to actually help cure people early, but instead sell them drugs when they are sick.

Volatile compounds have been proven to be correlated with cancers and can be detected incredibly early, there is a huge survival rate.
Title: Re: Laser based molecular scanners [newly developed technology]
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on June 10, 2013, 12:29 am
Ahhh, that would make too much sense DrDeepWood, lol besides I seriously think the U.S. government is more worried about reducing the population than helping people, haha you really dont think we have a cure for cancer?? haha, I guarantee we've had more than 1 cure better than chemo for at least 5 years now. Either shits too expensive or more likely, technology being supressed to help fulfill secret agenda's unknown to the general public? Hmmm I wonder which one its? Obviously they do not give 2 shits about the budget so its probably not the first lol. People need to stop expecting the government to do everything, Nowadays the government is mostly interested in corporate and capitalist affairs, and the economy is so out of whack they are literally throwing papers and screaming blue in the face at conferences and stuff. Seeing how mostly all important research is funded by government, no wonder we are where we are. If we could figure out a way for everyone to contribute to the good of society more easily and readily, We could totally see more improvements within couples of years I am sure! But right now they just scimm money from the top of our budgets to use for things they want or even use OUR hard earned money in affairs that cannot even be disclosed to us!! I think we have a right to know a lot more than they tell us. We are even bonded for our governments debt by our birth certificates! They treat us like livestock, I really hope some major changes come about in the next 40 to 50 years, supposedly the concsiousness shift will be complete in around 49 years or so, who knows what may happen? lol