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Title: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: goodvibez on March 04, 2013, 02:26 am
So I looked this up a little bit on google which took me mainly to bluelight and a couple other forums but this is the only forum that I have an account with and I'm curious as to who all has experienced this same problem, also would be sweet to hear a detailed explanation as to why this happens if anyone knows..... Heres the problem, I've done quite a bit of X tabs and molly over the past few years, probably way more than I should lol, but I'm still functioning it seems like  :o, and once I started using the road molly and I have had quite a few dances together. I don't know if its just because the shit off the road is so pure or what, but one night throughout the night about 2 months ago I took a little over a half gram of some good molly off the road, real good molly, ended up having sex after I took the last tenth so I was pretty out of it by then, would've had sex at the peak of the first tenth but we were with some friends for most of the night then went back home..... As soon as we got home my girl and I split the last .3 and it brought our roll back up some, before we had sex though I had to pee pretty bad, so heres where the problem starts, I go try to pee but nothing comes out, for about 10 minutes I'm just standing in the bathroom trying with everything I've got to just take a piss, I finally give up and for some reason think maybe it'll come out easier after we have sex..... So we fuck but it doesn't last too long because were both pretty out of it by then and are thinkin just laying there listening to some pink floyd until we pass out sounds pretty good, so we both get up to try and pee but after both of us are in the bathroom for about 15 minutes we both come out and realize were having the same problem :/, we decide to try again but have no scuccess. By now my bladder is bulging with my veins popping out and its kinda painful, so we both decide we'll go to bathroom and concentrate as much as we possibly can until sumthin comes out, after about a half an hour my girl finally says she was able to go and once she started it flowed like nothing.... So I'm pretty excited about this news and I try to concentrate as much as I could, after 45 minutes, still, nothing. By now I am in pretty hardcore physical pain, I'm freakin myself out in my head too and my mind is so worn out from rolling all night that I'm in need of some good sleep, when I try to lay down though I can't even move because I'm in pain, so I literally sit in the bathroom for the next 4 hours, noddin out and in some pretty excruciating pain, it almost seemed like when the roll started to wear off for the most part I was finally able to piss, I almost had my girl take to the hospital that night, it was that bad..... I've had a couple experiences somewhat similar since then but none as bad as that, I also haven't taken as much as I did that night, the most being 3 and a hlf tenths, also haven't had sex on it since then because I felt that could've been part of the problem, which kind of sucks because sex on x is amazing, I try not to drink as much water as I did that night because I thought maybe I drank too much, not too positive why that happens but I do know I never want to have to experience that again or have anyone else have to experience that shit..... Sorry for rambling on so much but I just wanted to explain myself so maybe someone could give some advice, thank you for any input my friends!!
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: Meatgrinder on March 04, 2013, 03:12 am
Paragraphs.

Didn't read it.
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: CrazyBart on March 04, 2013, 03:39 am
ya, stimulants will do that.
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: tango on March 04, 2013, 03:50 am
Paragraphs.

Didn't read it.

Likewise
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: thyme on March 04, 2013, 03:52 am
Yeah, MDMA and MA and AMP do that. Bladder necks don't like stimulants, apparently.
It's not that infrequent.
Search for MDMA and urinary retention. Tons of articles out there.
Several Bluelight threads too.


these are all clearnet sites.
hxxp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14980339
the sidebar on this one has other case reports
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Acute, transient urinary retention from combined ecstasy and methamphetamine use.
Abstract
Methamphetamine and 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA or "ecstasy") are synthetic amphetamine analogs that have become increasingly popular, particularly among adolescents and young adults. Many deleterious physiologic effects arising from the use of these agents have been well documented in the medical literature. Urinary retention, however, has rarely been reported as an effect of MDMA or methamphetamine use and is thought to occur as a result of alpha-adrenoceptor stimulation of the bladder neck. We report a case of acute, transient urinary retention due to combined MDMA and methamphetamine use with laboratory confirmation.

hxxp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2548878/
Urinary retention with misuse of "ecstasy". (fulltext)

hxxp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18570171
more in sidebar. This one is a little different, it's chronic and not the usual acute case. I didn't read the fulltext to see if there was additional ketamine maybe contributing to LUTS.
I'm kind of curious about the role of other drugs in this problem in general - the OP says he took something clean, but out in the general world, this just seems to happen more often with sketchy pressed tabs.
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Neurogenic bladder and chronic urinary retention associated with MDMA abuse.
Abstract
INTRODUCTION:
The use of 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA, known as "ecstasy"), a synthetic amphetamine and "club drug," has been associated with acute, transient urinary retention. We report a case of neurogenic bladder and chronic urinary retention associated with MDMA abuse.
CASE REPORT:
A 21-year-old male presented to the emergency department (ED) because he had abdominal pain and difficulty urinating. He had experienced difficulty in initiating urination over the past 1.5 months, with periods of 24 to 36 hours between voids and large volumes of urine. The patient had a chronic pattern of MDMA use, taking 4 tablets/day for 3 months. Two weeks before coming to the ED, he had been admitted to an inpatient drug rehabilitation center. During the time since that admission, the patient had visited EDs repeatedly for insertion and removal of Foley catheters to relieve the urinary retention until he could be admitted to a urologic service. Cystometrogram was abnormal, finding no sensation of bladder fullness after instillation of 350 mL of saline and inability to generate a voluntary voiding pressure. Cystoscopy revealed no outlet obstruction. The findings were consistent with neurogenic bladder. The patient was given prescriptions for bethanecol and phenazopyridine, and told to continue a 10-day course of sulfamethoxazole/trimethoprim for urinary tract infection. He was discharged with a Foley catheter in place. Symptoms of urinary retention persisted at 1-year follow-up, despite self-catheterization and complete cessation of MDMA use.
CONCLUSION:
Chronic MDMA use may lead to neurogenic bladder and chronic urinary retention.
editorial comment: chronic MDMA use in the context of ongoing urinary retention *when that problem doesn't remit* may lead to neurogenic etc.
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: Knomo on March 04, 2013, 04:29 am
Sit down on the toilet
Try whistling, sounds stupid but it has worked for me in the past.

And recently I read something about holding your breath for like 1minute. Because you're not exhaling CO2 it'll just stay and accumulate in your blood, apparently it relaxes you.
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: gtgeorgz on March 04, 2013, 03:14 pm
Ah thanks Knomo I will try this next time. :)
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: valakki on March 04, 2013, 09:23 pm
ugh yeah i know this feeling.
try to take a bath next time if this happens. sit in some warm water and... well...  try to pee.
 i know some ppl go lol pissing into your own bathtub... but doing it underwater helps!!
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: Fallkniven on March 04, 2013, 10:15 pm
Paragraphs.

Didn't read it.

this
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: goodvibez on March 05, 2013, 01:58 am
Thank you all for the tips!!!! Can't wait to try some of them to see if they actually work! :) Hopefully....
Paragraphs.

Didn't read it.
Yes I understand, English was my worst class  :(
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: goodvibez on March 05, 2013, 02:02 am
And recently I read something about holding your breath for like 1minute. Because you're not exhaling CO2 it'll just stay and accumulate in your blood, apparently it relaxes you.
This is crazy too because now that I look back on the really painful night of not being able to piss, I do remember holding my breath quite a bit because it felt like it was somewhat helping!! Can't wait to see if the whistling helps at all, :) thaaaank you!
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: purplebirds1234 on March 05, 2013, 01:15 pm
I know it's stupid in most peoples minds, but when I do molly, I usually do about a gram over four doses. I have this problem every single time and what I have found is that if I drink enough water and focus hard enough I can go. Just close your eyes and only focus on your penis clear every other thought out of your brain and it will just flow.
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: ElDude on March 05, 2013, 06:27 pm
I've got to say, I read the title of this post and expected something completely different. Last time I checked, I don't think Molly is into golden showers...
On topic though, I can't say I've ever dosed high enough to experience this
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: goodvibez on March 05, 2013, 11:53 pm
I know it's stupid in most peoples minds, but when I do molly, I usually do about a gram over four doses. I have this problem every single time and what I have found is that if I drink enough water and focus hard enough I can go. Just close your eyes and only focus on your penis clear every other thought out of your brain and it will just flow.
HOLY SHIT!!!..... What is dosing a gram into four doses like? Especially the pure shit off the road, I feel like that would be way too overwhelming at first and by the end of the night I'd either be ready to die or kill somebody, wouldn't have a happy thought for at least a month, why would you dose that much?  :o
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: NewspaperBoy on March 06, 2013, 01:15 am
This is normal happens to lots of people when you have high doses and have been rolling for a while.

What I have found that helps if you take deep breaths to calm yourself down and with your hands keep pushing lightly on you bladder until you pee.

NpB
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: slirp on March 06, 2013, 05:39 am
A gram of molly?  Not being able to piss is the least of your worries.  That said the pissing issues are normal.  Be sure to hydrate with gatorade or whatever.
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: theman22 on March 06, 2013, 12:34 pm
been there plenty of times before.i usually just keeping,eyes closed and relax and most times the river will flow however if that doesnt work jump into a warm shower it may feel like an effort just to pee at the time but its a guarantee it works.

btw dont stop the sex cus thats not whats causing it  8)
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: iliketurtles on March 06, 2013, 10:26 pm
I had this the other night -- felt like I had a marble stuck in my dick at first. I pushed so hard I nearly shit myself, and then BAM! free flowing! Second time, had to push but not as hard -- from that point on it was fine though :)
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: curiositymatrix on March 06, 2013, 10:55 pm
And I thought this thread was going to be some kooky guide about how to purify your MDMA or make it more potent.
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: iliketurtles on March 07, 2013, 10:15 am
hahahaha curiosity, I thought the same thing at first!
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: sleepyeyes2k2 on March 07, 2013, 07:41 pm
This happens to me at high doses of opiates.  I have no idea why.  I went 2 days without pissing, though, so, what I ended up doing was standing in the shower, turning the water on, and just let it go.  It worked.

Sorry for the gross details, ppl.  Just trying to help.
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: purplebirds1234 on March 13, 2013, 06:41 pm
I've got to say, I read the title of this post and expected something completely different. Last time I checked, I don't think Molly is into golden showers...
On topic though, I can't say I've ever dosed high enough to experience this

I FUCKING LOVE IT!!!
you will be going nuts but in a good way
your eyes are just fucking everywhere but you feel soooo amazingly good
you're brains not all there anymore though, if you trying holding a conversation for longer than 30 secs you will totally forget what you are talking about
even if your are in the middle if a sentence i'll just be like wait what were we talking about
i love doing it though even though people say its dangerous
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: TwoneNathandjoe on March 13, 2013, 06:57 pm
Yeah it definitely happens with a lot of stims, I think it's something to do with the vasoconstriction. The worst is when you feel you need to piss but can't, then your dick will start dripping like a leaking faucet. Very uncomfortable and annoying, little wet spot on your pants lol. Eat some hot peppers, the hotter the better, I find this alleviates the problem to an extent.

Also, I get this more with MDA and the APB's than with MDMA, but I'm much less likely to redose MDMA compared with those two, and if I do it's just a little bump to bring me back up a bit.
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: AnimusVox on March 20, 2013, 07:51 pm
Hey guys, try taking green tea extract (EGCG). It is a potent diuretic that will help with the urinary retention arising from MDMA induced vasopressin release. You should find if you properly supplement prior and during the roll, you'll be able to use the restroom a lot more easily.

Check out the following study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16574714
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: dr gonzo on March 21, 2013, 12:58 am
I Know this is going to sound silly, but here goes- I'm a heavily experienced MDMA user and go back to "golden days" of ecstasy, and it was always a classic cure for said ailment. It doesn't take much focus, actually, do your best to relax, and while you have assumed position, start doing rudimentary math in your head...multiples, short division, times tables. Trust me, math will set you pee...I mean free. ;D
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: dr gonzo on March 21, 2013, 01:00 am
I Know this is going to sound silly, but here goes- I'm a heavily experienced MDMA user and go back to "golden days" of ecstasy, and it was always a classic cure for said ailment. It doesn't take much focus, actually, do your best to relax, and while you have assumed position, start doing rudimentary math in your head...multiples, short division, times tables. Trust me, math will set you pee...I mean free. ;D
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: thekid on March 21, 2013, 04:28 am
ive been in the same spot. you just have to chill out and relax and just think about peeing and nothing else. if you have to also sit down and close your eyes. two things that would always help and ive taken more that half a g in a night i have a tolerance for molly. hope this help man.
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: DiamondSky on March 21, 2013, 07:20 am
All right - twp pages and no one else mentioned it so time for the Doctor of E to lay down his prescription:

TAKE A PISS BEFORE YOU START ROLLING!

If you still need to take a piss after than consider this interesting fact:

A large amount of MDMA consumed orally will not be metabolized in the stomach and will simply be passed through the body by way of urine and so  drinking your own piss can get you high... do you really need that temptation during a roll? No... so make sure to take a piss before that starts sounding like a good idea.
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: bealzebobs on March 21, 2013, 09:21 pm
Relax and persevere. Its horrible when you need a huge piss but cant go. Kind of like your bladder is closed. I always get it on MDMA at higher doses. Opiates too a little.
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: thekid on March 21, 2013, 10:06 pm
also i forgot another bad thing is when you have to take a huge shit! and it wont come out. thats the worst also. fucking hate when that happens it only happens though when i get molly off the street never so far off the road.
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: bealzebobs on March 22, 2013, 10:05 am
I usually start needing a shit when i know that I'm about to take MDMA, or just after i take some. Happens with coke too. Does anyone else get this!?
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: thekid on March 22, 2013, 10:08 am
i usaly have to take a bad shit when i am just starting to roll fucking hard! shit hurts so fucking bad its worst that having to pee!
never done coke but always new people who did and they would take shits i have been told its laxatives that they put in it?
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: bealzebobs on March 22, 2013, 10:14 am
Im in Uk and the street coke here is usually cut with benzocaine or lidocaine or something. Usually just the thought of coke or MDMA gets me needing a crap, and its always fucking runny!
Title: Re: Pissing on MDMA
Post by: phangka on March 22, 2013, 01:52 pm
This happens evertime I roll.  Urinary retention is common with MDMA.  I find that sitting to pee helps me a lot.  My girlfriend makes fun of me for peeing like a girl but it works.