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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: northsouth on January 24, 2013, 04:17 am
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I've been looking for shrooms from EU for quite a while now, and just stumbled across flagship456 (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/fcbb43448e). He ships from Czech Republic, and has P. cyanescens for sale, picked from the woods of Poland. I've heard good things about cyanescens shrooms, and they're pretty cheap, so it's tempting to buy them.
HOWEVER, even though he has good feedback from his weed, he only has a single feedback on his shrooms, and I can't find any information on him in the forums. He also requires FE from first-time buyers.
Does anything know anything about him? Do you think it is unsafe to consume mushrooms that have not been grown under controlled, sterile conditions?
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nice to find this topic, since there is really little feedback on these mushrooms.
so, i can vouch for them after tonight, that they are good and safe to eat. safe, that, at least in my case, i can say there was no 'wrong picked' or equal looking mushroom between them, maybe picked by a just good-meaning feller. actually, since they are handpicked, and there is no feedback at all of people, as well as from the vendor (wrote them for dosage, but they told me to not eat shrooms themselves, thus in childhood eaten 2-5g, which would be a totally over-the-top dose if these would be real cyanescens), this is a real hazard. Especially, since they are not grown under controlled circumstances, but in the wild.
well, i was stupid, eh.. brave enough to test this on myself and my so worthless life ;) tonight - realizing what i just wrote during/after.
so, thanks god, all worked out, and i had 3,54 grams of these mushroom tonight. i was planning to jump in the waters completely, and take the 5 (which is +- -the- epic dose for me with every shroom so far), but i thought to make the testrun, and drop 3.5, having 2g individually prepared on the side. these 3,54g gave me a first surprisingly smooth ride, even super smooth. the first hour of the come up was so smooth, that i could still handle a phonecall after 50mins! well, from t +1, till t+2, things started to be slightly different .... which turned out to be epic!
a smooth ride, but what a deep one. and loong! got me a good 6-7 hours.
normally, the original cyanescens is around 3x more potent then cubensis, so its taken in amounts of 1-3 grams in average for most people. these mushrooms that we handle here, are definitely stronger then cubensis, but NOT that mighty as the tales of what 1g of proper cynescens is able to produce.
so, if one opens the books, and researches a bit, one can find that cyanescens actually doesnt grow in poland at all - but just the 'sister', or 'wrong cyanescens', called psilocybe aurora (?) or equal. actually, i have to be honest to not remember the name of the species completely (shame on me), and i'm bit too lazy to search those sources again. if anyones needs/likes that info, i can search of course, or at least pointed them in a good direction.
SO,
these mushrooms seem absolutely legit,
they are NOT that strong, that 1g is enough to convert thought-energy and all the subtle movements of the mind,
BUT its a epic shroom!
gold for the buck.
just be careful, whoever still has some, and take a good look on each, that not one 'wrong' one is inbetween. not that we think it is, neither that the vendor didnt know, but .... it would just be too sad ;D
ツ!
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Back in stock! Yeah! Gonna do a reorder =) keep me on line! now afterwards i can say, it was a really nice mushrooM! 3,54g were smooth, but defo deep! thought about at pointing at 5,46g, but since my stack was limited i thought of the 7,08 as the one to go for. gonna look different now! oh yeah! :)
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Anyone else tried these shrooms? Is there any reason to think there would be any wrong/dangerous ones mixed up in there?
actually, since they are handpicked, and there is no feedback at all of people, as well as from the vendor (wrote them for dosage, but they told me to not eat shrooms themselves, thus in childhood eaten 2-5g, which would be a totally over-the-top dose if these would be real cyanescens), this is a real hazard.
Don't quite follow this, they told you not to eat the shrooms?
Also, hows the stealth?
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Actually, when asking the guys about the dosage, the answer was, that the vendor himself doesnt eat mushrooms, and that they did not try those ones.
He told me on the other hand, that years ago, in his chidhood as stated, he ate between 2-5g on a more regular basis (thus 2-5g seem a over-the-top strong dose for regular cyas).
They idea of the 'wrong ones' picked and mixed in by accident aroused while being under the influence of those - i guess i was a bit hypersesitive that moment, as well as my mind developed significant stronger imaginative qualities in that trip. On the other hand, buying wooden picked shrooms from a vendor that doesnt try them himself, it carries a certain percentage of possible 'failure' of course.
though, observing your shrooms good, might already sort this out - all the ones i got really looked like a psilocybin-containing mushroom, just of the strong visible blueing eg.
the stealth was not spectacular - the shrooms were just put in a lil carton wrapped with tape and sended, while the vendor announced before shipping the easy nature of the product for transit since odor-freeness. looks they apply their vacuum-seal more for their cannabis deals.
would order again though.
watching back: nice, clean, strong mushroom with the definite touch that is different then cubensis....
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+1 for the detailed reply! Thanks.
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I might add now since i know (thanks to cyanspores topic),
the name of these mushrooms is (most probably, since this variety grows in eastern europe)
Psilocybe Arcana
Greets!
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oh wow, I completely missed this until I started doing a search on cyanescens
what it is with the european varieties of the psilocybe cyanescens complex, is there are 4 species in that group, psilocybe cyanescens (eureope), psilocybe bohemica, psilocybe arcana, and psilocybe serbica, or there was, read on
only the true psilocybe serbica (arcana) is equal to the real psilocybe cyanescens from the west coast. The problem occurred back in the 90's when Jochen Gartz misteknly mis identified various types of these for the real cyanescens and not only that, the real cyanescens in Europe and UK is apparently not as strong as the ones on the west coast. Why that is, nobody knows but it's likely nutrients in the types of wood there
However that could be changing because spores from the west coast have been re-introduced in europe and are spreading and reportedly are getting stronger. Ironically cyanescens was first identified in England nearly 100 years ago
The key here, of course is proper identification by an expert who also is willing to test them himself for potency, especially for here. The information on that page is coming from Gartz and his Book Magic Mushrooms of the World which is now dated and newer updated info has been put up aelsewhere. Gartz himself got busted for unrelated things and can no longer do testing in Germany, but here's his old book from the 90's
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13033856/Jochen-Gartz-Magic-Mushrooms-Around-the-World
since then, newer testing has been done in Czechoslovakia and that includes west coast Cyanescens complex where the newly named psilocybe allenii, a sister species of psilcybe cyanescens has been scientifically named just a few months ago. This paper was written in Czechoslovakia
www.czechmycology.org/_cmo/CM64207.pdf
you should go to a clearnet browser to download this, or download and look at it on another computer as it's a PDF
it's also on wikipedia now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_allenii
as you can see, extensive DNA and RNA analysis had to be done on this to separate it from actual cyanescens because it is identical under a microscope. They could not name this a new species for over 10 years because it is so closely related to cyanescens, and just as potent
But back to Europe. Those 4 native species have also been updated
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_serbica
as you can see, extensive analysis was also recently done by the same Czech scientists and also makes it closely related to the real cyanescens. In fact, you can see that, all 3, bohemica, serbica, and arcana are now considered to be the same species, IE, they can mate, and variations are simply strains and not species
The problem you might have had, assuming what you were sent was indeed psilocybe serbica (arcana) was the storage method. the season in Czechoslovakia is similar to that of Washington, it's late September to December. This means that anything past that MUST be dried and stored properly, as in a tight vacuum. If it is not stored in a vacuum, it will degrade over a peroid of months, so it will likely lose 50% in 6 months. Cyanescens will also lose much potency after 6-9 months
That's why I store all my freshly dried cyanescens in tight glass jars in vacuum, and they will last 2 years or even longer that way