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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: zombai spy lab on January 27, 2013, 02:00 pm
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I've been a member and vendor on Silk Road for 20 months. Decided to make a new buyer review account only to help my personal safety and am happy to answer any question members in this subforum have about Silk Rod think I'm playing try me. I'm here to help not deal with crybaby jerkoffs, the admin /mods believe in the same opinion and will rake action.
No question is stupid and please dont not ask for fear of being ridicule, if some one smart ass is abrasive to anyone in my thread I will have that member reported within minutes and results will happen asap.Please let's use this thread to learn and increase post opportunities. Troll questions will not be tolerated so simply be a normal person and not impress anyone and this is a golden thread for everyone to benefit.
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Thanks for reaching down into the muck to help us newbies.
I've made 4 purchases now and 3 of 4 were perfect. The 4th, blow, seemed light and while it was good - I was expecting better quality. The vendor was a "top" vendor - I'm not calling it out as 1. It's not that huge a deal and 2. I'm just learning at this point
How do you make sure your expectations are met re quality, and weight.
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Another question. - I'm in continental USA
How much riskier do you think international shipments are than domestic. I'm pretty confident that domestic shipments done right are no sweat.....
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What is your view on signing for packages? Safe to do it for small orders, not so safe for large orders? Im talking overseas orders.
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Thanks for reaching down into the muck to help us newbies.
I've made 4 purchases now and 3 of 4 were perfect. The 4th, blow, seemed light and while it was good - I was expecting better quality. The vendor was a "top" vendor - I'm not calling it out as 1. It's not that huge a deal and 2. I'm just learning at this point
How do you make sure your expectations are met re quality, and weight.
As all coke users know cocaine will vary from every vendor all the time. the one way to not over hype yourself is to have no expectations or if you ask the vendor if the current batch is the exact batch you purchased most likely a few days earlier. Be sure to ask the vendor if he really doe s calibrate the scale on every order.
I suggest all vendors be contacted with simple questions to have them answer generally , this will improve your information on which vendors are gonna be real professional vendors a or smoke blowers to just get sale and always review your orders in the forum. Don;t hesitate to ask a vendor before placing orders it's both their and your privilege to get a transaction .
Most vendors will go out of their way to make a buyer happy. If a vendor is rude to you I would suggest you not give them your business.
Also sorry missed second post: Domestic orders are beyond simple and safe I'd not order beyond canada simply because you are gonna wait from 8-15 days for the package to arrive depending on source location from the UK to Germany
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What is your view on signing for packages? Safe to do it for small orders, not so safe for large orders? Im talking overseas orders.
Hey kittykat sorry i took a bit getting here was in pgp trying to help.
My view on signing for packages is vendors some never allow that to be an issue, it's actually against SR guidelines but you;ll find many vendors tend to make up their own rules despite guidelines like insisting you FE...FE = wasted btcs. If you are getting over sea orders it isnt needed but sometimes vendor do use it as insurance to have proof an overseas package arrived in case a buyer tries to scam the vendor and say it didnt arrive. I suggest you not ever order large from over seas and in fact orders in general are gonna get you in the most trouble but if you are doing it to resell I guess sometimes you have to weigh the pros and cons. All international orders are gonna get looked at and that simply is not a domestic problem unless the vendor is not a professional packer.
To be honest with you though if your package hets all the way to you at the normal mail delivery time then there is most likely no problems with the package and it would be safe to sign but I personally dont sign anything and suggest others dont either.
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Hey, thanks for opening this thread :)
Do you think it's a good idea to tell a vendor before buying one of their products that you plan on writing a review of it on the forums? Or does that come off as gloating and an attempt at getting special care over one's order.
- JH
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I have no idea .
-WF
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Hey, thanks for opening this thread :)
Do you think it's a good idea to tell a vendor before buying one of their products that you plan on writing a review of it on the forums? Or does that come off as gloating and an attempt at getting special care over one's order.
- JH
As a new buyer I wont do it general thoughts are trying to get free extra product but usually vendors ask to review it anyway.
It's bst to not look like a jerk trying to cop free product on your first purcase many vendor will after 3 or more repeat transactions start hooking you up a little.
OK guys this is all for now i have to go, bbl.
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I have no idea .
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Waffenfabrik I dont want to seem like an asshole or a dick but if you dont have a question dont post in this thread to just boost post.
I'll let that post slide but dont bother replying to this one.
You can ask a question in the future if you have one.
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Hey Zombai. Also, like others have stated, I'm sure we all appreciate the guidance and words of advice.
My question for you is more of a scenario. The situation I'm in is that I'm ordering from the U.S. trying to get some LSD. After looking at the sellers, the most legitimate one (in terms of reviews and price) is this seller called Lucydrop (ships from Canada). He's in the top 2% of sellers with 99.6% positive feedback from more than 300 transactions.
The Catch = He requires you to FE. I know that pretty much everyone tells you to never, ever FE, but I'm wondering if this seller's extensive history and rank might be validation enough. Obviously it comes down to whether or not I want to risk it, but I'm asking what you would do if you were the newbie in my position.
Thanks for the help man :)
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Hey Zombai you have any tips for new vendors out there?
Hey Zombai. Also, like others have stated, I'm sure we all appreciate the guidance and words of advice.
My question for you is more of a scenario. The situation I'm in is that I'm ordering from the U.S. trying to get some LSD. After looking at the sellers, the most legitimate one (in terms of reviews and price) is this seller called Lucydrop (ships from Canada). He's in the top 2% of sellers with 99.6% positive feedback from more than 300 transactions.
The Catch = He requires you to FE. I know that pretty much everyone tells you to never, ever FE, but I'm wondering if this seller's extensive history and rank might be validation enough. Obviously it comes down to whether or not I want to risk it, but I'm asking what you would do if you were the newbie in my position.
Thanks for the help man :)
Hey random fellow newbie; I'd say unless you have terrible stats to never FE ever, I'd say to wait on a 3jane batch but it looks like she won't be posting any for atleast a few months. even when I've done dozen of orders with one vendor I still won't FE because you don't know if the vendor has been compromised or not.
Oh; here's 3janes profile if you don't mind waiting http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/d31e82c6ef
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hi, im a newb to the road,but have been doing my homework and researching for past 2 months,im trying to be able to post over on the "rumor mill" forums,but it wont let me,do i have to have a certain amount of post to be able to post over there or something, im trying to get on the "heroin vendors" forum,i can read it,but wont let me post anything.thanks for your help,appreciate it.
-ry
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Do you know anyone thats been busted using SR?
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hi, im a newb to the road,but have been doing my homework and researching for past 2 months,im trying to be able to post over on the "rumor mill" forums,but it wont let me,do i have to have a certain amount of post to be able to post over there or something, im trying to get on the "heroin vendors" forum,i can read it,but wont let me post anything.thanks for your help,appreciate it.
-ry
Wondering the same exact thing. I want a little freedom here! Hahah
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I mean for God's sake between the LSD Avengers and all sorts of crap ive made two lsd purchases, one soooo very weak it didnt even have a mental effect, the other just paper. im on my third and starting to think i need to wait for a star vendor to have new new batch, read the threads, and buy a shit ton at once. might be worth it. im just sick of this crap already. people playing games with lsd. they have something that could give so many people hope and joy and decided to give us zero or a 1/100th of the dose. unreal. what happened to the Dead Days? I'm still search, but I swear sometimes it keeps me up at night,
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I suggest moving this thread to my thread as it contains all these questions. I'll edit the main post to say that zombai spy lab is qualified to answer questions as well.
My thread is here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108300.0
As for purchasing LSD. Wait for 3Jane's next batch or purchase from JoR would be my recommendation. They've both proved themselves to be more than professional and commendable in every way.
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Hey, thanks for opening this thread :)
Do you think it's a good idea to tell a vendor before buying one of their products that you plan on writing a review of it on the forums? Or does that come off as gloating and an attempt at getting special care over one's order.
- JH
As a new buyer I wont do it general thoughts are trying to get free extra product but usually vendors ask to review it anyway.
It's bst to not look like a jerk trying to cop free product on your first purcase many vendor will after 3 or more repeat transactions start hooking you up a little.
OK guys this is all for now i have to go, bbl.
Great, thanks for the input :)
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hi, im a newb to the road,but have been doing my homework and researching for past 2 months,im trying to be able to post over on the "rumor mill" forums,but it wont let me,do i have to have a certain amount of post to be able to post over there or something, im trying to get on the "heroin vendors" forum,i can read it,but wont let me post anything.thanks for your help,appreciate it.
-ry
Wondering the same exact thing. I want a little freedom here! Hahah
Bad news boys. SR has now limited all newbies with under 50 posts to this newbie discussion area, once you get over 50 you can post everywhere again :)
- JH
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hi, im a newb to the road,but have been doing my homework and researching for past 2 months,im trying to be able to post over on the "rumor mill" forums,but it wont let me,do i have to have a certain amount of post to be able to post over there or something, im trying to get on the "heroin vendors" forum,i can read it,but wont let me post anything.thanks for your help,appreciate it.
-ry
Wondering the same exact thing. I want a little freedom here! Hahah
Bad news boys. SR has now limited all newbies with under 50 posts to this newbie discussion area, once you get over 50 you can post everywhere again :)
- JH
This explains a lot... Where did you find this information if I may ask?
As for my question; How do you go about ordering weed in the 100 g- 500 g range if not more. Assuming you live in a Nordic country with relatively strict customs and domestic product being way too expensive (1300 usd for 100 g even on sr), so naturally you opt for non-flagged EU countries to send you this amount. Why exactly is it NOT good to sign for your package? Are they always checked and scrutinized extensively regardless of how good the stealth is or is it the fact that it can be an opportunity to screw you over?
Many thanks in advance! I might move and/or duplicate this post onto the thread mentioned above.
Entity
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Thanks Zombai.
Not sure if you'll get to this... but being the total noob I am, I'm not sure where to ask this... nor have I found the answers anywhere else:
Why is there no link to the actual SR Market here?... apparently an account here is completely detached from there, correct? And clicking on random vendors links only brought me to a login page which would not allow new registrations. "temporarily not accepting new members atm" Guess I got lucky though after doing enough clearnet searching, I found a link that would let me register.
Doesn't not having an obvious direct link from here open noobs up to phishing?... like LE could set up a mirror SR or something... or some sort of pass-through/overlay claiming to be SR, a more easily found SR? Fooling lost people like me.
How does one become a vendor?... I've read that they're paid accounts? Yet I see no info at all about this process. (I have dreams & aspirations)
Thanks in advance...
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hi, im a newb to the road,but have been doing my homework and researching for past 2 months,im trying to be able to post over on the "rumor mill" forums,but it wont let me,do i have to have a certain amount of post to be able to post over there or something, im trying to get on the "heroin vendors" forum,i can read it,but wont let me post anything.thanks for your help,appreciate it.
-ry
Wondering the same exact thing. I want a little freedom here! Hahah
Bad news boys. SR has now limited all newbies with under 50 posts to this newbie discussion area, once you get over 50 you can post everywhere again :)
- JH
This explains a lot... Where did you find this information if I may ask?
As for my question; How do you go about ordering weed in the 100 g- 500 g range if not more. Assuming you live in a Nordic country with relatively strict customs and domestic product being way too expensive (1300 usd for 100 g even on sr), so naturally you opt for non-flagged EU countries to send you this amount. Why exactly is it NOT good to sign for your package? Are they always checked and scrutinized extensively regardless of how good the stealth is or is it the fact that it can be an opportunity to screw you over?
Many thanks in advance! I might move and/or duplicate this post onto the thread mentioned above.
Entity
Hey Entity,
I found out about the 50 posts thing by messaging the SR help center on the main site, and they informed me of the situation.
As to your question; I personally have never had to order over an ounce of weed in one go off the road, I buy it in real life most of the time. However, the same principles for ordering any product apply; choose a reliable vendor who has good feedback both on their SR seller's page and on the forums. If you choose a vendor who is experienced then you will almost definitely receive your order, and don't be afraid to PM them and ask about their shipping success rates to your country if you're unsure. I'm pretty sure that many vendors send larger amounts of bud in multiple, smaller packages, so that if one is intercepted it's not devastating and most of an order will probably get through...unless they flag your address :p
Signing for a package is undesirable as it suggests that the signer was aware of said package being sent to them, so in court this could be taken as evidence suggesting the signer in fact ordered the illegal item. If one receives a random letter in the mail that just happened to contain a narcotic, then it isn't that person's fault and it is down to the pigs (*cough*, sorry, I mean fine law enforcement officers) to prove that they did in fact order said item. With all the security surrounding SR, that can prove to be incredibly difficult, if not impossible for them ;)
Most packages going through customs aren't checked too carefully and get through without any issues. Plus, most post-handling departments are much more concerned with letter bombs than relatively harmless drugs. That being said, a letter that stinks of bud and is coming from the Netherlands will no doubt arise suspicion, so a vendor shipping his product discreetly is also very important.
If there's anything else I can try and help you with just holla'
- JH
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The address for the SR is http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion
Obviously most people got to the forums from the link on the road. So it's safe to assume that most people on the forum have the url memorized or bookmarked.
Seriously though guys, just go read through my thread here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108300.0 You'll find a lot of these answers.
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Yeah I went to the link and you really did explain it all.
Thanks.
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Hey Zombai , i have a completely noobie question to ask , and it might be a plain and simple thing that ive looked over but i just dont want to do anything wrong . I just started literally an hour ago and im wondering how to get Bitcoins, but not only get them but safely . There is a thread about people get scammed buying Bitcoins so i was wondering if you could tell me how to purchase them correctly and safely ...
Thank you ,
Total Noob
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hi, im a newb to the road,but have been doing my homework and researching for past 2 months,im trying to be able to post over on the "rumor mill" forums,but it wont let me,do i have to have a certain amount of post to be able to post over there or something, im trying to get on the "heroin vendors" forum,i can read it,but wont let me post anything.thanks for your help,appreciate it.
-ry
Wondering the same exact thing. I want a little freedom here! Hahah
Bad news boys. SR has now limited all newbies with under 50 posts to this newbie discussion area, once you get over 50 you can post everywhere again :)
- JH
This explains a lot... Where did you find this information if I may ask?
As for my question; How do you go about ordering weed in the 100 g- 500 g range if not more. Assuming you live in a Nordic country with relatively strict customs and domestic product being way too expensive (1300 usd for 100 g even on sr), so naturally you opt for non-flagged EU countries to send you this amount. Why exactly is it NOT good to sign for your package? Are they always checked and scrutinized extensively regardless of how good the stealth is or is it the fact that it can be an opportunity to screw you over?
Many thanks in advance! I might move and/or duplicate this post onto the thread mentioned above.
Entity
Hey Entity,
I found out about the 50 posts thing by messaging the SR help center on the main site, and they informed me of the situation.
As to your question; I personally have never had to order over an ounce of weed in one go off the road, I buy it in real life most of the time. However, the same principles for ordering any product apply; choose a reliable vendor who has good feedback both on their SR seller's page and on the forums. If you choose a vendor who is experienced then you will almost definitely receive your order, and don't be afraid to PM them and ask about their shipping success rates to your country if you're unsure. I'm pretty sure that many vendors send larger amounts of bud in multiple, smaller packages, so that if one is intercepted it's not devastating and most of an order will probably get through...unless they flag your address :p
Signing for a package is undesirable as it suggests that the signer was aware of said package being sent to them, so in court this could be taken as evidence suggesting the signer in fact ordered the illegal item. If one receives a random letter in the mail that just happened to contain a narcotic, then it isn't that person's fault and it is down to the pigs (*cough*, sorry, I mean fine law enforcement officers) to prove that they did in fact order said item. With all the security surrounding SR, that can prove to be incredibly difficult, if not impossible for them ;)
Most packages going through customs aren't checked too carefully and get through without any issues. Plus, most post-handling departments are much more concerned with letter bombs than relatively harmless drugs. That being said, a letter that stinks of bud and is coming from the Netherlands will no doubt arise suspicion, so a vendor shipping his product discreetly is also very important.
If there's anything else I can try and help you with just holla'
- JH
Hey JoeH!
Thank you for your extensive reply. Alright, I see, SR support can be very helpful :). It is a good incentive for newbies or even long time users to start using the communities more and contribute more. I think there should be investigations as to what kind of posts you did on your 50 first posts i.e Did you spam your way to 50?
Anyway, on to the next topic that you replied here. I have been through an identical experience to what you have just typed in your reply concerning smaller amounts of weed. Thank you for this independent confirmation, I appreciate it. As to the judicial stuff concerning the signing of a package, what happens in my country at least is that a note is just left by the regular mail man and you have to go pick it up at the nearest post office. However, you do not know what it is from the note alone just that you have a parcel. So how is it not the same as receiving normal mail through the letterbox? Is it because a signing option is only present if it has been strictly asked for/informed of prior to a purchase?
So I could not send you something to your ignorance and pay for the track and signing and have you sign to receive the parcel, that is you have to sign for it to have the chance of finding out what has been sent to you? If this sounds really strange then it does mostly because of my lack of knowledge concerning the postal systems. I have greatly improved since I joined this community, of course, but I still think I have a lot more to learn...
I have received signed packages before, once from Mr Money (US vendor), and it was not a problem at all. I may be under investigation but I have not noticed anything suspicious... yet. Your correspondence is helpful in securing my life and future (BIGGER) purchase from this beloved community. :)
Sincerely,
Entity
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Have you ever heard of anyone catching a case from using Silk Road? I read about someone who used both Silk Road along with Paypal and they got caught up because of the Paypal connection, but I am wondering what is the best safeguards against any problems on the Road.
Also, is there any problem with consistently logging on to the Tor network from one location? A lot of us are logging on from the house and/or work. Is this dumb of us?
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Have you ever heard of anyone catching a case from using Silk Road? I read about someone who used both Silk Road along with Paypal and they got caught up because of the Paypal connection, but I am wondering what is the best safeguards against any problems on the Road.
Also, is there any problem with consistently logging on to the Tor network from one location? A lot of us are logging on from the house and/or work. Is this dumb of us?
Do research about this, man, even on the Tor website there are documents on how to stay anonymous via Tor. Your ISP i.e LE, could easily find out if you are using Tor but this is as far as they can get. They can only know you use Tor, not what you do AT ALL while using Tor. But, there are exceptions, if you do not listen to the guidelines of how to use Tor safely then you can breach the security of Tor by surfing non-secure websites and what not. Do not leave software opened on your computer when using Tor if the software can access the internet in any way whether it is Skype or something else. Also, you should encrypt your hard drive with TrueCrypt, just make sure to turn your computer off if LE are coming for you! :)
I hope this helped,
Entity
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Thanks EntityCreature,
But I am using Windows 8 which in and of itself is constantly connected to the internet. Also what about the antivirus, antimalware software that is continually monitoring internet traffic? Should I not use any of this stuff?
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hi, im a newb to the road,but have been doing my homework and researching for past 2 months,im trying to be able to post over on the "rumor mill" forums,but it wont let me,do i have to have a certain amount of post to be able to post over there or something, im trying to get on the "heroin vendors" forum,i can read it,but wont let me post anything.thanks for your help,appreciate it.
-ry
Wondering the same exact thing. I want a little freedom here! Hahah
Bad news boys. SR has now limited all newbies with under 50 posts to this newbie discussion area, once you get over 50 you can post everywhere again :)
- JH
This explains a lot... Where did you find this information if I may ask?
As for my question; How do you go about ordering weed in the 100 g- 500 g range if not more. Assuming you live in a Nordic country with relatively strict customs and domestic product being way too expensive (1300 usd for 100 g even on sr), so naturally you opt for non-flagged EU countries to send you this amount. Why exactly is it NOT good to sign for your package? Are they always checked and scrutinized extensively regardless of how good the stealth is or is it the fact that it can be an opportunity to screw you over?
Many thanks in advance! I might move and/or duplicate this post onto the thread mentioned above.
Entity
Hey Entity,
I found out about the 50 posts thing by messaging the SR help center on the main site, and they informed me of the situation.
As to your question; I personally have never had to order over an ounce of weed in one go off the road, I buy it in real life most of the time. However, the same principles for ordering any product apply; choose a reliable vendor who has good feedback both on their SR seller's page and on the forums. If you choose a vendor who is experienced then you will almost definitely receive your order, and don't be afraid to PM them and ask about their shipping success rates to your country if you're unsure. I'm pretty sure that many vendors send larger amounts of bud in multiple, smaller packages, so that if one is intercepted it's not devastating and most of an order will probably get through...unless they flag your address :p
Signing for a package is undesirable as it suggests that the signer was aware of said package being sent to them, so in court this could be taken as evidence suggesting the signer in fact ordered the illegal item. If one receives a random letter in the mail that just happened to contain a narcotic, then it isn't that person's fault and it is down to the pigs (*cough*, sorry, I mean fine law enforcement officers) to prove that they did in fact order said item. With all the security surrounding SR, that can prove to be incredibly difficult, if not impossible for them ;)
Most packages going through customs aren't checked too carefully and get through without any issues. Plus, most post-handling departments are much more concerned with letter bombs than relatively harmless drugs. That being said, a letter that stinks of bud and is coming from the Netherlands will no doubt arise suspicion, so a vendor shipping his product discreetly is also very important.
If there's anything else I can try and help you with just holla'
- JH
Hey JoeH!
Thank you for your extensive reply. Alright, I see, SR support can be very helpful :). It is a good incentive for newbies or even long time users to start using the communities more and contribute more. I think there should be investigations as to what kind of posts you did on your 50 first posts i.e Did you spam your way to 50?
Anyway, on to the next topic that you replied here. I have been through an identical experience to what you have just typed in your reply concerning smaller amounts of weed. Thank you for this independent confirmation, I appreciate it. As to the judicial stuff concerning the signing of a package, what happens in my country at least is that a note is just left by the regular mail man and you have to go pick it up at the nearest post office. However, you do not know what it is from the note alone just that you have a parcel. So how is it not the same as receiving normal mail through the letterbox? Is it because a signing option is only present if it has been strictly asked for/informed of prior to a purchase?
So I could not send you something to your ignorance and pay for the track and signing and have you sign to receive the parcel, that is you have to sign for it to have the chance of finding out what has been sent to you? If this sounds really strange then it does mostly because of my lack of knowledge concerning the postal systems. I have greatly improved since I joined this community, of course, but I still think I have a lot more to learn...
I have received signed packages before, once from Mr Money (US vendor), and it was not a problem at all. I may be under investigation but I have not noticed anything suspicious... yet. Your correspondence is helpful in securing my life and future (BIGGER) purchase from this beloved community. :)
Sincerely,
Entity
Hey Entity,
Over here, in Spain and other European countries I've ordered to, a package that is sent with tracking/signing-on-receipt is delivered to the receivers address and if they are not home a note is left by the delivery company (not the same one as the national postal service though) with a phone number or another delivery attempt date. The only way to have an idea as to what is inside the package is if it is accurately labeled on the customs form, providing it is coming from another country. If it has been sent domestically then there won't be a way to identify the contents, however I'm pretty sure most packages we send over SR aren't accurately labeled anyway ;)
If you pick up a package from the post office, and have to sign for it, then the principle is the same as if it was received by you directly at your residence. It may be an indication that you are aware of the contents / expecting the package, and so a claim that someone sent you illegal narcotics as a set-up may not be accepted. I still think that signing for packages containing small amounts is relatively safe, as if the package's contents had been discovered by customs they would have probably just sent you a letter informing you that they have seized the package. Only if you were ordering large amounts would they bother carrying out a controlled delivery; delivering the package, waiting for you to sign for it and then arresting you and carrying out a search (providing they have a warrant) of the residence. Of course they will arrest you for possession of a 'suspected' illegal narcotic and possibly with intent to supply or some other bull-shit.
All in all, if you're ordering small amounts, or from a vendor who is experienced with stealthily packaging larger amounts, then you will probably be safe. That being said, I only order with tracked shipping/signing when for some reason I need to know exactly where the package is along its journey, all the rest of the time I just order via regular mail. If you're planning on a bigger order, check the vendor's feedback for larger orders and see if you can find out whether people normally order with tracking/signing from them, and if they've been successful. I understand it's a debate; you want to have tracking because you don't want to loose a big order, but you don't want it because of the possible legal repercussions. At the end of the day it's your call.
Hope this helped,
- JH
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Hey Entity,
Over here, in Spain and other European countries I've ordered to, a package that is sent with tracking/signing-on-receipt is delivered to the receivers address and if they are not home a note is left by the delivery company (not the same one as the national postal service though) with a phone number or another delivery attempt date. The only way to have an idea as to what is inside the package is if it is accurately labeled on the customs form, providing it is coming from another country. If it has been sent domestically then there won't be a way to identify the contents, however I'm pretty sure most packages we send over SR aren't accurately labeled anyway ;)
If you pick up a package from the post office, and have to sign for it, then the principle is the same as if it was received by you directly at your residence. It may be an indication that you are aware of the contents / expecting the package, and so a claim that someone sent you illegal narcotics as a set-up may not be accepted. I still think that signing for packages containing small amounts is relatively safe, as if the package's contents had been discovered by customs they would have probably just sent you a letter informing you that they have seized the package. Only if you were ordering large amounts would they bother carrying out a controlled delivery; delivering the package, waiting for you to sign for it and then arresting you and carrying out a search (providing they have a warrant) of the residence. Of course they will arrest you for possession of a 'suspected' illegal narcotic and possibly with intent to supply or some other bull-shit.
All in all, if you're ordering small amounts, or from a vendor who is experienced with stealthily packaging larger amounts, then you will probably be safe. That being said, I only order with tracked shipping/signing when for some reason I need to know exactly where the package is along its journey, all the rest of the time I just order via regular mail. If you're planning on a bigger order, check the vendor's feedback for larger orders and see if you can find out whether people normally order with tracking/signing from them, and if they've been successful. I understand it's a debate; you want to have tracking because you don't want to loose a big order, but you don't want it because of the possible legal repercussions. At the end of the day it's your call.
Hope this helped,
- JH
Heya Joe,
I am happy I have learned this useful stuff, it is definitely making me feel more confident with my endeavors here. I did not know that was the case for your country and other EU countries. I did once notice this label thing you mentioned, I did not much care for it until now.
Yep, it sounds logical in every way to approach this conundrum in the manner you have suggested. Indeed, it is ultimately up to me. You have to be able to sacrifice to manage in this world, I believe, so it is not necessarily a dilemma to have to choose between these. Thank you, JoeyHartley, be seeing you in the forums :)!
Sincerely yours,
Enity
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I mean for God's sake between the LSD Avengers and all sorts of crap ive made two lsd purchases, one soooo very weak it didnt even have a mental effect, the other just paper. im on my third and starting to think i need to wait for a star vendor to have new new batch, read the threads, and buy a shit ton at once. might be worth it. im just sick of this crap already. people playing games with lsd. they have something that could give so many people hope and joy and decided to give us zero or a 1/100th of the dose. unreal. what happened to the Dead Days? I'm still search, but I swear sometimes it keeps me up at night,
Yes go with Tesselated or JoR
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What is the longest it ever took for bitcoins to reach your sr wallet? I have waited over 36 hours. Also, SR support has not responded in almost the same amount of time. Any thoughts are appreciated.
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What is the longest it ever took for bitcoins to reach your sr wallet? I have waited over 36 hours. Also, SR support has not responded in almost the same amount of time. Any thoughts are appreciated.
Thats longer than iv ever known it to take.
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That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for taking the time to reply
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That's an inordinate amount of time. I REALLY appreciate your control in NOT spamming the forums after 20 minutes when they didn't arrive, but in the future after a few hours I'd start getting a little antsy and message SR support. Check blockchain.info to verify you've got the correct address and then see how many confirmations you have. Then message support again. Honestly, If they arrived at this SR marketplace they could just be tied up somewhere and they'll straighten it out for you. I've heard of funds being tied up for > 24 hours and it getting cleared up.
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I've been a member and vendor on Silk Road for 20 months. Decided to make a new buyer review account only to help my personal safety and am happy to answer any question members in this subforum have about Silk Rod think I'm playing try me. I'm here to help not deal with crybaby jerkoffs, the admin /mods believe in the same opinion and will rake action.
No question is stupid and please dont not ask for fear of being ridicule, if some one smart ass is abrasive to anyone in my thread I will have that member reported within minutes and results will happen asap.Please let's use this thread to learn and increase post opportunities. Troll questions will not be tolerated so simply be a normal person and not impress anyone and this is a golden thread for everyone to benefit.
Zombai SPy Lab,
Once you go through the hassle of becoming a vender (Fee's, setting up shop, product management, etc...), and they receive funding on SR from payments, how do venders Take money from their Silk Road bitcoin address and turn it into cash / bank deposit / ? What is the process?
I can get Bitcoin into SR just fine as a buyer: Cash -> ZipZap location ->blockchain.info -> SR address used for buying
I cannot, however, find a thread describing what sellers / venders need to do to get cash from bitcoins earned through sales.
Any help is much appreciated from anyone. Bonus points for steps to conduct this completely separate from your real ID.
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Thanks for your help. Issue resolved.
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I haven't made any purchases yet, but I was wondering if it is best to order domestic here in North America and stay away from international? It seems customs would be
a problem?
Also would it be better to use a p.o. box rather than have it shipped to home address?
Thanks for all the help!
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What are some drugs that you would not order because you think they would be spotted by custom too easily?
What are some rules that every buyer should follow that are not listed on the SR wiki?
Any interesting stories?
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Hey Zombai. Also, like others have stated, I'm sure we all appreciate the guidance and words of advice.
My question for you is more of a scenario. The situation I'm in is that I'm ordering from the U.S. trying to get some LSD. After looking at the sellers, the most legitimate one (in terms of reviews and price) is this seller called Lucydrop (ships from Canada). He's in the top 2% of sellers with 99.6% positive feedback from more than 300 transactions.
The Catch = He requires you to FE. I know that pretty much everyone tells you to never, ever FE, but I'm wondering if this seller's extensive history and rank might be validation enough. Obviously it comes down to whether or not I want to risk it, but I'm asking what you would do if you were the newbie in my position.
Thanks for the help man :)
Excellent question "The Catch" as you put it is exactly what vendors rely on to selectively scam new members randomly. I am in no way saying this vendor scams at all but there are those that do. The ranking and stats is what usually allows them to when 50% if not 100% of the transaction btc. Now if you decide fuck all the advice I've been given I'm gonna try and see what happens never finalize early anything more than you are willing to lose at a rigged casino game.
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hi, im a newb to the road,but have been doing my homework and researching for past 2 months,im trying to be able to post over on the "rumor mill" forums,but it wont let me,do i have to have a certain amount of post to be able to post over there or something, im trying to get on the "heroin vendors" forum,i can read it,but wont let me post anything.thanks for your help,appreciate it.
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Wondering the same exact thing. I want a little freedom here! Hahah
hey guys im answering questions as i go so idk yet if someone answered this but 50 is the magic number.
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So, I'm confused about the shipping practices of some (almost all) of the H vendors, esp the international ones. I thought it was one of the golden rules of Sr that you shouldn't sign for a package, nor go with a vendor who requires it, yet it seems like most of the heroin vendors do (esp for newer users). I get that they're worried about being scammed out of money if the person claims they didn't get it when really they did. But I don't have a dummy/offsite shipping address yet (I'm shipping to my apt under the previous tenants name, who gets a bunch of mail here all the time) and so I'm really paranoid about signing for anything. Plus, I just dont get why this "rule" is being broken by so many of the vendors with great feedback.
wtf? advice? do I just need to STFU and either get an offsite address or be willing to take the risk of signing for it until I'm more of a known quantity?
PS, I may be new to SR but I'm neither new to this drug or to getting busted, which is part of the reason I'm taking the not-signing thing so seriously.
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How do I gain access to hidden listings? Are there many hidden listings? Is this how I get the best deals?
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So, I'm confused about the shipping practices of some (almost all) of the H vendors, esp the international ones. I thought it was one of the golden rules of Sr that you shouldn't sign for a package, nor go with a vendor who requires it, yet it seems like most of the heroin vendors do (esp for newer users). I get that they're worried about being scammed out of money if the person claims they didn't get it when really they did. But I don't have a dummy/offsite shipping address yet (I'm shipping to my apt under the previous tenants name, who gets a bunch of mail here all the time) and so I'm really paranoid about signing for anything. Plus, I just dont get why this "rule" is being broken by so many of the vendors with great feedback.
wtf? advice? do I just need to STFU and either get an offsite address or be willing to take the risk of signing for it until I'm more of a known quantity?
PS, I may be new to SR but I'm neither new to this drug or to getting busted, which is part of the reason I'm taking the not-signing thing so seriously.
First of all, there is "no rule" stopping a vendor sending packages that require a signature. It depends on where you live as different countries have different policies and procedures, some being harder than others to facilitate a successful delivery. However, if your using a previous tenant's name to receive orders already, you could use it for the signed package delivery. Where I live, even if I had answered the door to the postie and the package wasn't addressed to me personally, they will still give it to me as the address is correct. If they ask, just say it's a room mate or your boyfriend/girlfriend, what ever the case may be. If the postie leaves a card cause I'm not at home, on that slip is a section where the addressee can sign it to allow another person to pick it up for them. There's other steps you can take but I'll send you a PM shortly about that. :)
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How do I gain access to hidden listings? Are there many hidden listings? Is this how I get the best deals?
They are called Stealth Listings. When you see them, you need to bookmark the URL of the listing and save it for future use. This could be done by the vendor for many reasons such as they don't want any new customers for that particular item. There's not a large percentage of listings which are Stealth when compared to the overall amount of listings on the site. It's not how you get the best deals. In saying that, I'm sure there are some great deals listed Stealthily, but equally there are great deals in view of everyone. Look around, ask questions if anything is not covered on the vendor's Homepage, always be polite and courteous and take your time in deciding which vendor to order from. Research, Research and more Research. :)
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Wadozo, I'll be honest, I'm a little hurt. After all the good discussions we've had you are ignoring MY larger, more informed, centralized, thread and posting on this sad mockery?
Honestly, he claims that he's been a vendor for > 20 months(doubtful) and he can't even use proper grammar. :/ Disappointing. I suppose it is technically POSSIBLE. Though I'd like to point out that there are a LARGE number of people who are in the same boat. See, that long ago you didn't have to pay for a vendor account. You could just list an item with any account and when you did it changed to a vendor's account. You didn't even have to MAKE A SALE. I guess I believe that ZSL has had a vendor account for that long(so have I), but I don't believe he actually uses it/makes sales. If he does, he's certainly not a top % vendor. There's a reason for that. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Either he hasn't implemented the things he's talking about(read: Spewing bullshit), he HAS implemented them and they aren't successful, or he hasn't been selling and therefore (likely) doesn't have the practical knowledge.
All these questions have already been answered in my thread. I mean, post here redundantly if you'd like, but seriously. Besides, how often do people get the opportunity to chat with Weird Al? This is a monumental chance people are passing up to ask questions of this inferior, self posturing sham of a 'vendor' who's more likely to give bad information or just rehash what he's read in my thread. ;)
Much love.
By the way, if you're looking for my thread i believe the reference is on page 2 of this one. Also, on the note of grammar: Yes, I'm aware I didn't capitalize 'he' when referring to ZSL. ;)
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WOW! just noticed those numbers under my post count.. Zombai, you mad brah? :) At least have the decency/maturity/balls to respond to me. Not just click a little button cause your panties are in a bundle.
+1 to you anyways. :)
EDIT: Your only karma [is] from me. :D
Once again, much love!