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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: MailMaxDev on February 15, 2012, 03:04 am
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Out of mushrooms, LSD, mescaline, DMT and MDMA which would you guys say has the most potential for lasting improvement in mood? Or maybe there's others I haven't listed?
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DMT, high dose shrooms, 1000 micrograms + LSD, will shred any sort of depression. Not only that, but you'll probably most likely be declined to use any sort of drugs for a while because you feel serious enlightenment. Learning to let go is one of society's biggest problems, if you can let go of your physical self, your mind, you will be free and have no limits. The way it should be. Of course many people freak out, set and setting is always an important factor. Have a responsible, trustworthy, loving 'sitter' will also aid you.
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First time I did mdma i was happy for a week or two. Nothing like that on lsd, shrooms. Everyone's different, though.
Also, OP, look into ketamine and MXE.
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Ayahuasca or pharmahuasca.
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Ayahuasca or pharmahuasca.
Definitely this. I've seen many people who have had their lives completely changed - for the better - after a single ayahuasca ceremony at a Daime center. One whole day tripping on orally active DMT is more than enough to set your inner problems straight, or at least to give them enough momentum to guarantee you'll be able to fix them in a jiffy during the following days and weeks, once you've sobered up.
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Ayahuasca or pharmahuasca.
Definitely this. I've seen many people who have had their lives completely changed - for the better - after a single ayahuasca ceremony at a Daime center. One whole day tripping on orally active DMT is more than enough to set your inner problems straight, or at least to give them enough momentum to guarantee you'll be able to fix them in a jiffy during the following days and weeks, once you've sobered up.
Another good thing to point out is having a good shamanist that can lead the trip properly, every one of them has their own method to cook the ayahuasca, some with additional ingredients like datura stramonium.
The puking will clean your body.
Pharmahuasca has less of a body load on me that makes me puke than regular ayahuasca.
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Is there a big difference between just taking extracted DMT orally and Ayahuasca?
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Orally administering DMT will do nothing unless you combine it with an MAOI.
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Is there a big difference between just taking extracted DMT orally and Ayahuasca?
extracted dmt can be taken with an MAOI to become orally active.
As for that being the same as ayahuasca, which is dmt (in a plant) mixed with an MAOI (b. cappi) I'm not sure because I've never had ayahuasca. In ayahuasca there are other alkaloids that may or may not change the effects.
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Is there a big difference between just taking extracted DMT orally and Ayahuasca?
extracted dmt can be taken with an MAOI to become orally active.
As for that being the same as ayahuasca, which is dmt (in a plant) mixed with an MAOI (b. cappi) I'm not sure because I've never had ayahuasca. In ayahuasca there are other alkaloids that may or may not change the effects.
Yes, since ayahuasca is made from plants and not just the extracted DMT and MAOIs, it's quite possible that other ingredients will alter the trip. It's like the difference between tripping on shrooms or pure psilocin.
Like aleph7 said, it's good to have an experienced shaman or other psiritual guide to oversee your ayahuasca trip if you want to get the most out of it. I mentioned Daime centers in my earlier post. The Church of Santo Daime is a Brazilian religious organization that mixes old Catholicism with some African and Amazonian religious traditions, and uses ayahuasca brew as a sacrament. I don't believe they have centers outside of Brazil, but I do know of another similar church, called União do Vegetal, which has centers in the U.S.A. and some European countries. They can legally make and use ayahuasca, because, as a religious sacrament, they have a legal exception. However, it is still illegal pretty much everywhere for it to be sold, or even consumed outside of the context of a spiritual ceremony.
If you can, tripping with these guys is a great personal growth experience that you should absolutely not pass up on.
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I suffer from clinical depression and I've been told it's best to stay away from psychedelics such as LSD, shrooms and anything trippy or causing hallucinations. The reason is because anxiety occurs frequently as a comorbid disorder with depression, so taking psychedelics could induce anxiety/panic attacks in susceptible individuals.
I have not tried them for fear of getting panic attacks/bad trips, but then I've been diagnosed with anxiety and am on medication for it so you probably won't experience the side effects that I'm likely to experience if you don't have anxiety, or if your depression is not severe. But I still think you should approach them carefully just to be safe, such as starting with much lower doses than normal and being in a relaxed state before trying them.