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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: jaxfrost on May 01, 2013, 04:59 pm

Title: Tormail
Post by: jaxfrost on May 01, 2013, 04:59 pm
When was the last time that you were successfully able to logon?

J
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: avast on May 01, 2013, 05:36 pm
When was the last time that you were successfully able to logon?

J

Been a while. Not sure if they have even noticed that it is broken yet.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: Squirrel on May 01, 2013, 06:34 pm
Got in two days ago and it has been down again since.  Very annoying not to have a semi-secure email client.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: jesse on May 01, 2013, 07:49 pm
my vendor account said ...with this mail address you can always reach me in case SR is down.
Make that....sometimes when SR is down you can TRY to contact me here....keep trying.....try again ....maybe now ???
oops not today, try again tomorrow  ::)
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: theupsman1 on May 01, 2013, 08:07 pm
any alternatives to tormail just to use to sign up to random tor services?
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: i3lazd on May 01, 2013, 08:25 pm
got in tormail yesterday but today I am getting -

ERROR: Connection dropped by IMAP server.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: laplace on May 01, 2013, 08:59 pm
No luck with tormail since last week some time.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: patswin on May 01, 2013, 09:18 pm
I think I got on Monday but haven't been able to since.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: jaxfrost on May 02, 2013, 01:38 am
I posted on my Seller's page and let buyers know to try and PM me in the forum know as well.  But still no luck with Tormail for me either.  Has been at least 2 days maybe 3 that I was last able to logon.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: XXXotica on May 02, 2013, 01:56 am
a long time.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: Cobia on May 02, 2013, 02:01 am
Is there any safe/secure alternative to tormail?
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: Squirrel on May 02, 2013, 03:57 am
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Is there any safe/secure alternative to tormail?

Not that I have been able to find.  Hushmail has a checkered past but EFF advocates using them if you ONLY access them behind the TOR network.  But know this, they have cooperated with LE in the past so names and/or any personal data cannot be used.  HideMyAss VPN service has an anonymous email that looks interesting.  It notifies your clearnet mail when you get something and you can supposedly set up a destruction plan based on time or other factors.  I am going to sign up and test it.

edit:  You can only receive at the HMA email and you can set the life of your box.  I can see how this might be okay as there are a few one-time email services to use as sender.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: touchthesky on May 02, 2013, 10:30 am
also I've noticed you've been unable to make a new account for a while as well

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Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: JackBlue on May 02, 2013, 10:52 am
it seems to me (anyone that knows better please correct me if I'm wrong) an emal that lets you sign up with no real identifying info, lets you create. new account AND access your email through tor would be good from a privacy standpoint right?  you just have to make sure and only get your mail while in tor browser.  based on that I recently got an account with safe-mail.net.  you just have to make sure people also only send you mail from tor and use pgp.  I know that's a lot of ifs and make sures but that's the best I've come up with. anyone else?
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: jesse on May 02, 2013, 11:03 am
TOR and! SR down....this will be a fun day
Just got enough time this morning to copy the orders/addresses ....something I don't like but now do whenever I get the chance.
Few minutes later it was ''gone''....problem loading page
I wonder if this will ever be okay....not blaming anybody but it is hard to do business this way.
I am lucky almost all my sales are with repeated customers so they know they are safe and I will ship no matter what.
Dark times
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 02, 2013, 11:04 am
This section is for Silk Road discussion, not email services.  Off topic would be the correct section.  There are also 50 topics discussing this already.

JackBlue, you are correct.  I don't know why so many people don't understand.  Use TOR and PGP and it doesn't matter what email service you use.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: jesse on May 02, 2013, 01:53 pm
This section is for Silk Road discussion, not email services.  Off topic would be the correct section.  There are also 50 topics discussing this already.

JackBlue, you are correct.  I don't know why so many people don't understand.  Use TOR and PGP and it doesn't matter what email service you use.

Why should this not be in the SR discussion? It effect the way you can be in touch with SR customers.
Almost every vendor has it on its profile.
So it is the closest link to people who need to contact you from SR.
That makes it a SR discussion
If read by 530 people or so now....well there is an interest I would say. Even if the subject is posted before.
Always wonder why there is always a person wining -nasal sound- ''you cannot be here, its not right, you should do this...or that''
Or whatever the person feels is right for that moment and they have nothing to do with it anyway !! ''you cannot sit here''... why not? do you wanna sit here...no ...then shut up

Anyway....
Trying to get to my mail
DATABASE ERROR: CONNECTION FAILED!
Squirrel Mail Webmail or Cube...none works.
It is pure random able to log in.
Now I got to Squirrel, able to give my login code etc.....ERROR: Connection dropped by IMAP server.

Hope the whole SR and TOR connection is fixed soon, this cost everybody orders and money.
Like I said before, this is probably why the attacks are there in the first place.
Not a random hacker, for them there are more interesting targets I am sure....
The US government. police FBI whatever is made a fool by this SR market.
Its in the news, they cannot do anything about it.
Nothing to stop SR from being very successful, not able to have real arrests or something ...only this attacks....and THAT is very effective.
If they keep it up....a few months and all the drug buyers have found other markets like there is already ATlantis.
A (good) vendor can sit on its items...wait till all is cleared up again. For me, no problem wait/not sell 1 or 2 months
A user needs his whatever he his hooked on.
Again, that is why we also NEED TOR!! to stay in touch......




 
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 02, 2013, 02:08 pm
Every user has PGP on their profile but we don't put PGP threads in the Silk Road discussion section.  We put PGP threads in the proper security section.  Everyone on Silk Road uses drugs but we don't talk about it in the Silk Road discussion.  Every vendor packages drugs, we talk about it in the packaging section.

Fuck tormail, it's never up.  Garbage email service.  Use TOR and PGP and you can use any email.  Learn it and get over it.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: medicineman684 on May 02, 2013, 04:23 pm
I am dropping tormail for good..way to unreliable lately. I am using lavabit, which while it is clearnet I am using with thunderbird so all messages are cleared off the server every night and most of it is encrypted anyways.....

mm
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: Squirrel on May 02, 2013, 05:11 pm
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Fuck tormail, it's never up.  Garbage email service.  Use TOR and PGP and you can use any email.  Learn it and get over it.

I guess every forum has a moderator wanna-be.  No wonder your name is Jack-off.  And your advice is patently wrong.  Maybe you should do a little research before offering your -2 cents.  By the way, Jack me-off, what email client do you use behind Tor?
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: MarcelKetman on May 02, 2013, 05:22 pm

Fuck tormail, it's never up.  Garbage email service.  Use TOR and PGP and you can use any email.  Learn it and get over it.

The problem here is that the person you're emailing is required to know PGP too. This is far from a given. So the anonymity/privacy Tormail provides is very helpful for conducting business. Unlike other email providers nobody is ever going to cough up the details of your emails.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: theupsman1 on May 02, 2013, 06:02 pm
Lavabit registration closed. Any more recommendations? Doesn't need to be ultra secured just used for signing up to stuff etc.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 02, 2013, 06:21 pm
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Fuck tormail, it's never up.  Garbage email service.  Use TOR and PGP and you can use any email.  Learn it and get over it.

I guess every forum has a moderator wanna-be.  No wonder your name is Jack-off.  And your advice is patently wrong.  Maybe you should do a little research before offering your -2 cents.  By the way, Jack me-off, what email client do you use behind Tor?

If you're using PGP and TOR then it's just as safe.  Only difference is, no one knows where the garbage tormail servers are.  It makes no difference.  I've been using safe-mail and yahoo lately.


Fuck tormail, it's never up.  Garbage email service.  Use TOR and PGP and you can use any email.  Learn it and get over it.

The problem here is that the person you're emailing is required to know PGP too. This is far from a given. So the anonymity/privacy Tormail provides is very helpful for conducting business. Unlike other email providers nobody is ever going to cough up the details of your emails.

You shouldn't ever be using any email without PGP.  Not even tormail.  No one even knows who operates it or if it's a honeypot or not.  Always use PGP.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: railroadbill on May 02, 2013, 07:50 pm
ive been able to use hotmail with tor just fine. yahoo didnt work so well though.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: jesse on May 02, 2013, 08:19 pm
Tormail is up and running!

fuck me twice on Sunday (as Dexters sister said).. TOR.....it does work !!!
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: patswin on May 02, 2013, 09:28 pm
I just got on for the first time in almost 4 days. Worked fine.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: TurpenT on May 02, 2013, 09:50 pm
What is the best alternative to Tormail? Is Safe-Mail legitimate?
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: Creamsicle on May 02, 2013, 10:40 pm
Tormail uses squirrelmail.... I will def not be using it for any communication but just wanted to share that in case other vendors weren't aware.
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: TurpenT on May 03, 2013, 12:11 am
it's definitely working now. unfortunately, idk if i can trust it with all the outages in Tor  :-\

Hopefully everybody uses different pw's for the site and tormail, because wouldn't that be a trip

Any proved safe alternatives to tormail?
Title: Re: Tormail
Post by: Mcrad on May 03, 2013, 09:30 am
As i switch back to using my tormail:(

has anyone used bitmessage. someone mentioned it in another thread but i have no experience with it