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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: kmfkewm on February 05, 2012, 06:02 pm

Title: where the GPS dead drop networks at?
Post by: kmfkewm on February 05, 2012, 06:02 pm
SR has so many members that imo it is the perfect platform to introduce localized GPS dead drop networks. Vendors already leak their rough geolocation when they mail. If you live in a populated city you can probably find a lot of customers on SR who live near you. They would probably love to pick up their drugs from a GPS coordinate instead of get them via the mail. GPS is particularly good for bulk orders, and of course for localized orders. Dead drop spikes and GPS equipment are pretty cheap these days. The idea of a GPS scene has long been discussed but none of the private forums ever had enough members that they could be realistically implemented by us (not enough geographic concentration of members). SR could change that. Feel free to discuss the idea and security techniques that apply to dead drop networks.
Title: Re: where the GPS dead drop networks at?
Post by: QTC on February 05, 2012, 06:13 pm
I am aware of one in the bay area although it is way above my playing level, and I imagine that of everybody else on this board save one or two people. A big problem is countersurveillance of the drop point, I am so paranoid that I would not want to work with a team when I'm picking up large amounts of drugs for various reasons (trusting others, loss of anonymity, etc.) but it is very difficult scope out a drop spot alone and impossible to perform real time perimeter monitoring.
Title: Re: where the GPS dead drop networks at?
Post by: kmfkewm on February 05, 2012, 06:26 pm
I am aware of one in the bay area although it is way above my playing level, and I imagine that of everybody else on this board save one or two people. A big problem is countersurveillance of the drop point, I am so paranoid that I would not want to work with a team when I'm picking up large amounts of drugs for various reasons (trusting others, loss of anonymity, etc.) but it is very difficult scope out a drop spot alone and impossible to perform real time perimeter monitoring.

True but it is no more insecure to pickup from a GPS location than it is to pick up from a mail box. After all mail boxes are at GPS coordinates also ;).

Some really big trafficking groups even use anonymously controlled mini UAVs + GPS systems for picking up and dropping off drugs. One technique I have heard of is dropping multi kilo orders from mini UAV onto the top of big buildings with people on the top ready to grab and vanish into the building. Shit can be well hidden before anyone gets to the top floors and it is a logistical nightmare to go through an entire building looking for a package of drugs, particularly if it is like a high rise apartment complex or something. This shit is all way above my level, but there are some smart mother fuckers out there smuggling bulk drugs.
Title: Re: where the GPS dead drop networks at?
Post by: QTC on February 06, 2012, 06:06 am
True but it is no more insecure to pickup from a GPS location than it is to pick up from a mail box. After all mail boxes are at GPS coordinates also ;).
There's also no element of plausible deniability with GPS drops like there is with the mail although if one is regularly getting multiple keys in the mail they're stupid for many other obvious reasons.
Some really big trafficking groups even use anonymously controlled mini UAVs + GPS systems for picking up and dropping off drugs. One technique I have heard of is dropping multi kilo orders from mini UAV onto the top of big buildings with people on the top ready to grab and vanish into the building. Shit can be well hidden before anyone gets to the top floors and it is a logistical nightmare to go through an entire building looking for a package of drugs, particularly if it is like a high rise apartment complex or something. This shit is all way above my level, but there are some smart mother fuckers out there smuggling bulk drugs.
It's kind of off topic, but I think about stuff like this sometimes, the tactics used in past federal operations, and how all the vendors that I know of who have been caught were generally sloppy or took fairly insane risks frequently and I have mixed feelings about it. Fear at just how many genuinely bad people could be out there that the feds can't catch, and relief because I know I'm almost impossible to bust.