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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Nod4Less on May 07, 2013, 11:46 pm

Title: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: Nod4Less on May 07, 2013, 11:46 pm
Hello everyone!!

Here's something brand new with an AWESOME technological twist for all of you with some spare coinage OR you're a future member of Gamblers Anonymous like me!

I'm starting with 1 lottery -  win some of SR's BEST BTH OR BITCOIN with PRIORITY SHIPPING included!!!

I want to do a simple breakdown and then get the party started - you'll see what that means in a minute.

Each lottery will have 20 entries - each person is limited to 1 entry per lottery per round.

Each entry will represent 5% of the cost of the prize with shipping - no profit for me on the lottery, only the dope.

Winner gets 1/4g of Nod's BTH or $65 in BTC - cost = $8

Winner can upgrade to Express shipping for an additional fee of $20 (For #1 & #2)

HERE'S THE AWESOME PART!  The technological advance - new to SR lotteries...

Each entrant (instead of putting their address in the checkout box) will put a 3-digit number (000-999)

As each new round of lotteries in being introduced, it will include an encrypted result (using SHA-256) -- here's how I will get that encrypted result.

First, I will go to random.org and request a random number between 000-999 (for this example, we will use XXX)

Then - I will create some random data using the number and then random, jumbled keystrokes, like this:

XXX23l567g23l64g234jkhg623ljh4g6 (the key)

Then - I will encrypt this data using the SHA-256 encryption tool, the end result will be:

a7e5b170e3e2769f8d193598880fa1c2a7c0249db8df1b5adb824b28afb7b590 (the result)

The result will be published from the very beginning of each round.

Once 20 entries have been made, all information (including entrants, the numbers they picked, as well as the 'key') will be published for verification.

The winner is the person who is closest to the number (either above or below)

In the case of a tie, the process will be repeated with all who tied (some people could pick the same number, etc..) - results for tiebreaker will be posted in FORUM.

That way anyone can verify the key and since it was published from the very beginning - know that it's completely valid.

I'm very excited about this new form of entertainment - and you'll be able to follow all of the results of each lottery round here in this thread!

STARTING RIGHT NOW!!!

Lottery 1-A result = 49BBB4585CA84841505059B44EBF18270B590E022F17C569A3B6F477FC32783F

Here are the URLs for the different lotteries:

Lottery #1 (1/4g or $65) - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/e26812c820

PLEASE POST ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE - AND LET THE FUN BEGIN!
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: Nod4Less on May 08, 2013, 03:55 am
Looking for feedback??  Anybody??? =)
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: White 0ut on May 08, 2013, 04:07 am
I'm interested but it's a little bit pricey....

I would play but I feel I would sadly lose, & I like instantaneous results!
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: sliver on May 08, 2013, 05:44 am
I think the idea is interesting and the method is sound. I'm out of btc at the moment but am intrigued enough that I would be willing to drop $8 just to try it out once I load up again!
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: Nod4Less on May 08, 2013, 06:09 am
I changed it to 1 in 20 odds for $4 each - and I got rid of the other two more expensive lotteries.

Let's see how this one goes first - maybe there will be interest in the others later.

So, get together your spare change and have at it!!
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: dinosaurpoop on May 08, 2013, 03:55 pm
Interesting.  You may want to update the SR listing lest you accidentally be misleading; it currently says there's a 1/10 chance still.

Meanwhile, the dork in me has been trying to figure out what number to pick from a probabilistic standpoint. 

Suppose X is a uniform random variable bounded between 0 and 999. Then it may be useful to find the value y such that the expectation of the absolute value of X - y, that is,E[|X - y|] is minimized.  Of course, you can probably just do this in your head with common sense, but I'll prove it.

The expectation function could be expressed as a pair of summations, namely
the sum from i = 0 to y of (y -i) / 1000  and the sum from i = y to 999 of (999 - i) / 1000

So E[|X - y|] is given by ((y)(y + 1) / 2000) + ((999 - y)(1000 - y) / 2000)

Simplifying, we obtain
0.001y^2 - .999y + 499.500

So d/dx(E[|X - y|]) is given by 0.002y - .999
Optimizing, we find that y = .999 / .002  = 499.5

Unfortunately, this isn't a really useful metric since it doesn't take into account others' numbers.  Humans aren't very good at generating random numbers, so X couldn't really be considered a uniform random variable.  In fact, since people will likely choose some number between say 200 and 800, it might actually be best to pick a very high or very low number like 800 or 200, since if nobody were closer to the endpoints than you you'd be the closest to a wider range of values and thus have a higher probability of winning.

I guess this thread is evidence of why I need my gear that should arrive in a couple hours time...
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: Nod4Less on May 09, 2013, 01:52 am
OK - we have our first two entries in the 1 in 20 drawing!!

I can't update the title now - I have to wait until the first drawing is over.  Delete it and start a new one....

18 ENTRIES LEFT!!!

Awesome!!
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: Nod4Less on May 11, 2013, 08:24 pm
OK - so we're 40% done - we have 8 entries.  I was debating on how I was going to list entrants, because its important to know who wins, so it can be verified but I don't want to give away anyone's information without their permission -- so I've decided to put the 1st and Last letter/number of the SR ID and once the lottery is complete, I will post everyone's number choice so all can be verified -- 100% transparency.

FYI - my tar price has gone up on the listings - so this is actually CHEAPER than buying at my regular price, because this started before my price increase.

Here's the list of entrants:

T...E XXX
p...7 XXX
A...e XXX
b...0 XXX
t...e XXX
s...6 XXX
L...s XXX
h...g XXX

I do ask that whoever wins change their feedback from the lottery to show that they won - and maybe even a post on this thread for good measure?  We will figure something out.  I may have to out the winner with their full ID (if you'd rather me use your Forum ID - that's fine as well - it will be discussed before anything is done - nothing without your permission)

Best of luck to everyone and get in while you fit in!!

(Remember odds are 1 in 20 for $4 -- NOT 1 in 10 for $8 (I can't change the title of the ad once active - will have to wait until the next lottery)

N4L
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: Nod4Less on May 12, 2013, 03:42 am
8 down, 12 to go (bump!!!!)
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: Nod4Less on May 14, 2013, 03:24 am
OK folks - here's the updated list...

T...E
p...7
A...e
b...0
t...e
s...6
L...s
h...g
M...8
C...d
j...3

That's 11 + 1 in the hole waiting for finalization = 8 spots left!!!  Get in while you fit in, baby!!!

QUESTIONS FOR ANYONE TO ANSWER - WOULD YOU BE MORE LIKELY TO PLAY IF YOU COULD BUY MORE THAN 1 TICKET??

Thankss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: SOUTHPAW on May 14, 2013, 03:40 am
FUK man, can we just go back to sports? Shit reminds me of school, FUK! We r dopers not fucking statisticians, fuk fuk fuk...

Well except for ole dinosaurpoop up there, but don't think I'll trust that math, hahaha  :)

Love ya man, lmfao   ;)
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: Nod4Less on May 15, 2013, 04:46 am
Here's the list of 14 so far...

T...E
p...7
A...e
b...0
t...e
s...6
L...s
h...g
M...8
C...d
j...3
n…i
c…s
r…4

When all 20 are sold, I will be publishing the names and numbers selected by all 20 entrants.

6 MORE!!! Should be done in a few days, my guess...  Get in while you can!!  Prices go up next lottery!!

N4L
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: Nod4Less on May 17, 2013, 10:03 pm
OK - all tickets purchased and finalized.  Here's the results including all participants and their number choices.  The key code is also there.  The random number was 419, so no surprise, that we had two people choose 420 - lol.

I need kolmert and squirrely to start thinking of a new number between 000-999 and I'll come up with a new code and post it on here.  Remember, you use SHA-256 to encrypt the key I'm going to post and it will match the result from the original post - thus verifying the number has stayed the same.

Lottery 1-A KEY -    419powernodlotterysystemsisthebestideaever
   
Name   Number
TODNE   666
pugnos777   723
Abevridge   289
bec5510   627
tootstructure   721
squirrly5446   420
Lykes    192
hazyfog   263
MrB08   797
ClintEastwood   240
jboob933   777
naimmiami   789
cspscas   331
redcat44   871
JBlazeRSP1   777
Citystar31   472
readyforfryday   731
obolles   614
kolmert   420
rage1554   275
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: Nod4Less on May 17, 2013, 10:08 pm
Here's the encrypted data - the key will be released after the winner is announced between the two finalists.

7c4f9d964b387650c0551e07228a3e3dc56593cdee64bb0d45981774ac92f36e

Will the 2 finalists please contact me with your new number between 000-999 - thanks!!
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: Nod4Less on May 27, 2013, 08:27 pm
955j4htljk23h46tlkh2345ljkg326ljkg234klj5 was the key - so 955 was the number.

kolmert stuck with 420 - squirrly went with 500 - so squirrly won this round!!
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: subsrgood on May 27, 2013, 08:52 pm
Nods,

This is some impressive stuff my friend... I think its a great idea. I would love for you to show me how to do something like this.... Great stuff man
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: Nod4Less on May 29, 2013, 01:12 am
POWERNOD LOTTERY #2 STARTING NOW!!!

OUR FIRST WINNER WAS SQUIRRLY5446!!

Here's all the information you'll need for this new lottery starting today:

First of all, here's the encrypted data the contains the new random number: F42FE253372AE8B06118D02E86B945FC96260CEED61C8A08210DD18FB26D2E21

Here's the listing where you can buy an entry via SR: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/58ae70a2e6

Best of luck to everyone and let me know if you have any questions/comments!!!

N4L
Title: Re: POWERNOD LOTTERY SYSTEMS - DISCUSSION & RESULTS THREAD
Post by: Nod4Less on May 29, 2013, 12:21 pm
BUMP!