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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: Psychedelic Oatmeal on February 06, 2013, 09:23 pm

Title: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: Psychedelic Oatmeal on February 06, 2013, 09:23 pm
...does anyone else find people who only smoke weed to have a superiority complex over other users? I'm not saying all of them are like this, but the amount of people I see spreading bullshit misinformation about other drugs is shocking. These are the same people that throw a hissy fit every time a retard says marijuana kills brain cells, and here they are saying E puts holes in your brain.

If you partake in the use of an illegal drug, who are you to judge?

Actually, no matter who you are or what you do, you still have no room to judge.

Tl;dr hardcore stoners who don't do other things are judgmental assholes more often than you would expect.
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: Finzicle on February 06, 2013, 09:34 pm
You seemed to answer your own question.. Who is anyone to judge anyone. Seems about right  :D
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: Green_Dream on February 06, 2013, 09:36 pm
i dunno, weed seems different compared to harder drugs.  weed to me, is more like water.  im not exactly sure you can say that about many other "drugs."
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: Generation Y on February 06, 2013, 09:43 pm
I've got to say, I have seen this a fair bit. Mostly its just pot-heads saying its 'all-natural' so better than 'chemical drugs', but some people I've met absolutely hate any drugs other than weed, along with anyone who uses them. IMO, what you put into your own body is your choice, and nobody else should judge you for it.
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: jackchurchill on February 06, 2013, 10:14 pm
We should all be free to do what we will.  Somebody trying to explain the health reasons why something shouldn't be done is a very weak argument since who are they to dismiss what another humans finds to be enjoying or therapeutic.  One person's main objective in life may be the experiences they have as opposed to living until they are 100 years old and have 20 grand kids.  Although I love weed, I wouldn't think it to be wise to compare it to water.  Although I smoke weed all day/every day, it is still a mixture of chemicals which most of us then heat and inhale.  Just because it grows in the ground doesn't mean that it is being used/abused in a manner that different from most other drugs.  Maybe a little less science involved but hell, I think most of us smoke much higher potency weed due to other scientific knowledge and processes. 
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: CallmeBruce on February 06, 2013, 10:27 pm
Ever notice how weed smoking seems to attract the younger players? Older dudes still do it, but from my observation not to the same extent. I guess that applies to sex too.  ;D
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: NOTspacecase on February 06, 2013, 10:39 pm
What I noticed in my area is there's a new generation of smokers that are all into the medical shit now that it has become widely accepted. I also notice a lot of these medical users will look down on your regular ole pothead which annoys the shit out of me because I deal with these people a lot and they piss me off but at least they're willing to pay for quality and not bitch about how weed used to be $30 a ounce.

Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: jackchurchill on February 06, 2013, 10:41 pm
Nothing but free time when you are young which is great for both.  A little easier to go to class looking/smelling like you just smoked 10 bowls and still get better grades than your peers than it is to do same and go to a real job.  Even if you are a high functioning smoker, most employment situations would still not be cool with that image unfortunately.
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: jackchurchill on February 06, 2013, 10:56 pm
Yeah, although the medical community has done a lot for those with illness and in helping end some misconceptions or falsehood about the drug, I have noticed that it has flooded the streets with weed hipsters which are the worst.  You can normally find them explaining to you how great their "medical hydro" is the best bud on earth and how they could probably hook you up sometime.  I love asking them about the price they paid.  They always have a reason why it is totally worth spending $350 an oz to buy.  They always crack me up since they are normally the same people that bring over a single bowl when smoking  because their bud is so good that you don't need more than one bowl; well that is, until you start loading more bowls because these suckers are too stupid to realize they are smoking the same bud that you have at -$100 less. 
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: GF1 on February 06, 2013, 11:27 pm
Eat your pot.  Yummy cookies, long buzz.
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: MyOtherNickIsAwesome on February 06, 2013, 11:33 pm
this is a funny debate, however where i'm from there's another factor that has been totally left out here so far; alcohol.

So the song goes something like this:
"alright, so i drink every weekend but at least i don't smoke weed"
"yeah, i smoke weed once in a while, but at least i don't drink my brains out or do crack"
"i'm not an addict, i just like drugs.. so what if i drop a pill once in a while?"

You've probably heard someone use at least one of these sentences, or maybe even used some yourself... So let's play the blaming game, shall we? :)

Alcohol fucks with your liver and can make you agressive ... and some has experienced these 'black outs' where you wake up the day after with a guilty concience of some kind.
Weed makes you dumb, just straight up slow, yes, that might sound exaggerated, but the longer you keep smoking the dumber you get, and the smarter you'll feel when you're high. (i've been down that road)
mdma/xtc is a hell of a ride, but if you're doing it too often you suddenly can't produce any serotonin naturally, for those who dunno what this is, it basically means you can't achieve this mental state many would refer to as being happy.
Speed, coke, heroin etc.. never tried it, and honestly don't know anything about it, but there's plenty of side effects up in this level as well when the high has worn off...

lets see.. nicotine, yaaay.. makes you look cool, gives your lungs a nice dark tint and it's probably the most socially acceptable drug for others to mock people with. :D ..i have no excuse for smoking cigarettes, and i would quit if it wasn't so damn hard, hehe..

ok, ok.. so everyone likes to think they're better than others, yes, infact you all suck for not sharing my opinion!! (that was a joke, i'm very open-minded) ..and people naturally use the defence "but at least i'm not doing....." to make them feel better about their own nasty habits ...what do you usually tell yourself/your friends?

but in the end everything we enjoy will kill us, whether it's nicotine, cocaine, sugar, pineapples, because no human has enough self control to be able to resist those spontanous actions.. and if you actually can resist ALL temptations i believe you're missing out.. What's the fun part about living all those extra years that healthy people claim they will if you can't just let go and enjoy yourself once in a while?

tl;dr ... fuck you! scroll back up and read it, now! :D
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: jackchurchill on February 06, 2013, 11:40 pm
Eat your pot.  Yummy cookies, long buzz.

Agreed.  Probably my favorite way to get my bud when I have time to cook.  I just eat them since they are awesome not because I treat my body well. 
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: NOTspacecase on February 06, 2013, 11:46 pm
and can make you agressive .

where you wake up the day after with a guilty concience of some kind.

Weed makes you dumb, just straight up slow, yes, that might sound exaggerated, but the longer you keep smoking the dumber you get, and the smarter you'll feel when you're high. (i've been down that road)

All that is opinion. You're exactly the type of person I despise. Spreading your misinformation as fact.



Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: snark on February 06, 2013, 11:48 pm
I have noticed it for sure. It's especially irritating when coming from extremely heavy smokers who often have bad coughs and terrible short term memories from smoking all day every day.
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: Green_Dream on February 06, 2013, 11:56 pm
getting a vaporizer is one of the best things ive ever done
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: MyOtherNickIsAwesome on February 06, 2013, 11:58 pm
All that is opinion. You're exactly the type of person I despise. Spreading your misinformation as fact.

Go ahead and despise me lol, call it misinformation if you want.. I'm not saying everyone gets agressive when they drink, in fact this is quite rare, but it happens.. don't act like you never been to a club/bar/bodega/whatever and seen people get pissed at each other for just the smallest things that they would've probably just laughed about if they were sober.

And if you don't believe weed makes you slow, be my guest, keep smoking your brains out and enjoy not being able to remember shit in a couple of years :)

Please don't lie to yourself more than needed..
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: jackchurchill on February 06, 2013, 11:59 pm
but in the end everything we enjoy will kill us, whether it's nicotine, cocaine, sugar, pineapples, because no human has enough self control to be able to resist those spontanous actions.. and if you actually can resist ALL temptations i believe you're missing out.. What's the fun part about living all those extra years that healthy people claim they will if you can't just let go and enjoy yourself once in a while?

Very good point.  We are all just a bunch molecules whose bodies all react somewhat differently when we introduce foreign compounds.  Some people can handle their drugs and some cannot because of this.  This doesn't devalue the experience that many people can get from these drugs just because they happen to negatively experience them.  I personally can't imagine trading the experience of understanding first hand how these drugs work and feel for a few extra days of life I might save myself in an ideal world. 
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: NOTspacecase on February 07, 2013, 12:03 am
All that is opinion. You're exactly the type of person I despise. Spreading your misinformation as fact.
And if you don't believe weed makes you slow, be my guest, keep smoking your brains out and enjoy not being able to remember shit in a couple of years :)

Just because it happens to you or people around you doesn't mean it happens to everyone.
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: MyOtherNickIsAwesome on February 07, 2013, 12:14 am
Just because it happens to you or people around you doesn't mean it happens to everyone.

You're totally correct, i've had some bad experiences with weed.. doesn't mean i don't enjoy it from time to time still. However I have plenty of friends who smoke daily and are doing absolutely fine, getting fine grades/girlfriends/jobs/etc.. But imagine, just imagine for a second what these people could achieve if they didn't have this habit.. They would probably be bored as fuck, but the brain activity would be so much smoother...

If you're gonna go ahead and believe that weed doesn't slow your brain activity down the slightest, well, that's cool i guess. There's been plenty of studies on this particular subject, but who cares, right? You're doing fine now, and that's what matters ;)

I just realized i'm being one of these people you were hating on in the beginning of this topic, people who are trying to educate others... Eeeek, I don't wanna be that grumpy old dad saying drugs are bad mmmkay :)

Enjoy your lives, do what makes you happy, just keep in mind every coin has a backside ;) ...except bitcoins i guess..
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: anonho on February 07, 2013, 12:18 am
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Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: NOTspacecase on February 07, 2013, 12:21 am
Just because it happens to you or people around you doesn't mean it happens to everyone.

You're totally correct, i've had some bad experiences with weed.. doesn't mean i don't enjoy it from time to time still. However I have plenty of friends who smoke daily and are doing absolutely fine, getting fine grades/girlfriends/jobs/etc.. But imagine, just imagine for a second what these people could achieve if they didn't have this habit.. They would probably be bored as fuck, but the brain activity would be so much smoother...

If you're gonna go ahead and believe that weed doesn't slow your brain activity down the slightest, well, that's cool i guess. There's been plenty of studies on this particular subject, but who cares, right? You're doing fine now, and that's what matters ;)

I just realized i'm being one of these people you were hating on in the beginning of this topic, people who are trying to educate others... Eeeek, I don't wanna be that grumpy old dad saying drugs are bad mmmkay :)

Enjoy your lives, do what makes you happy, just keep in mind every coin has a backside ;) ...except bitcoins i guess..

That's more like it! :D
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: Green_Dream on February 07, 2013, 12:22 am
bump
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: Psychedelic Oatmeal on February 07, 2013, 03:07 am
Bump, that was a good read.
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: dead salmon on February 07, 2013, 03:13 am
Eh some people are just stuck up pricks.  I don't judge anyone by their decision to abstain from drug x, y or z.  It's a very personal decision.  Misinformation if shit though and should be corrected, its one of the reasons so many reasonable people are behind the drug war bullshit.  Education is the best weapon.
Title: Re: Ganja is great and all, but...
Post by: Psychedelic Oatmeal on February 07, 2013, 03:24 am
Eh some people are just stuck up pricks.  I don't judge anyone by their decision to abstain from drug x, y or z.  It's a very personal decision.  Misinformation if shit though and should be corrected, its one of the reasons so many reasonable people are behind the drug war bullshit.  Education is the best weapon.

Amen, man. I hate lies.

On an unrelated note, I saw an article on the Huffington Post about what a Mexican drug lord said. He said that he would formally like to thank the U.S. for the war on drugs, as it has made him filthy fucking rich. He would personally like to kiss the policy maker, and treat him to a nice caviar and champagne dinner.

U.S., urdoinitwrong.