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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: Birdman1690 on May 26, 2013, 10:49 pm

Title: TOR QUESTION
Post by: Birdman1690 on May 26, 2013, 10:49 pm
Hi, I'm curious if there are any sites that should never be visited while using the tor browser that could potential expose your IP address? Thanks.
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: DoctorFate on May 26, 2013, 10:52 pm
Ofcourse, there are tons, unfortunately you won't know that until you've already clicked it so don't click any links from strangers! Candy is okay though.
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: Mant0n on May 26, 2013, 11:11 pm
At the risk of sounding like a noob, what is "candy"?
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: Birdman1690 on May 26, 2013, 11:13 pm
so its possible for a website to figure out your real IP address even though TOR makes your IP address appear different? I didnt think something like this was possible, i thought TOR was for browsing anonymously? 
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: The-Truth on May 26, 2013, 11:14 pm
stay of the clearnet while running Tor - my .02
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: Birdman1690 on May 26, 2013, 11:17 pm
is the clearnet any non onion site?
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: Mant0n on May 26, 2013, 11:23 pm
yes
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 26, 2013, 11:27 pm
Lol stay off clearnet while running TOR?  Care to explain your reasoning?
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: The-Truth on May 26, 2013, 11:30 pm
my reasoning is clearnet = home/apt

tor = public access no service provider info

your thoughts?



Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 26, 2013, 11:32 pm
my reasoning is clearnet = home/apt

tor = public access no service provider info

your thoughts?

I don't understand what you're trying to say.  You are anonymous when visiting clearnet sites from TOR.  You are not anonymous when visiting clearnet sites from your own internet connection.
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: DoctorFate on May 26, 2013, 11:42 pm
I am truly stupid when it comes to this stuff but my techy friend explained it like this, please anyone chime in as he may have just been explaning as simply as possible.

When you torify something its like putting a bullet proof vest around it, safe but not impenetrable.    Don't go walking into gunfire ie clicking random links and going to any site. 

When your using the tor bundle bundle your using a torified browser, as long as you stay in that window any sites you go to are going to see your torified ip address.  Inside the tor browser, your IP is masked and any traffic is routed through tor, so your ISP can't see what you do and other sites can't see who you are.   

Your computer is still connected though and possibly doing internet things even if your not actively browsing the web.  So I can see not browsing outside of tor to help with bandwidth but that would be it.
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: Kopitewarrior on May 26, 2013, 11:54 pm
The one thing I do know is don't try and sign on in Mt Gox when running Tor because you'll block your account.
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 27, 2013, 02:51 am
Im not sure we are all on the same page here- it is my understanding that Tor creates a new and different IP address, in fact when i log on to Tor the first screen that comes up is one saying this is your apparent IP address.
so i dont understand why clicking onto a clearnet site would compromise you in any way- maybe im missing something. if seen the arnongs in other posts, and i suppose paranoia is good but i dont see the connection- please discuss amungst yourselves
vw

You understand it correctly.  Some other people do not understand it correctly.
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: SoAlone on May 27, 2013, 03:07 am
USPS.com (US mail website)

Reason?

You're checking a tracking number on something you've ordered that's illegal.

Their end see's you're using Tor. - "Tracking number flagged"

Prepare for a CD. (Controlled Delivery)

~just my opinion-I could be wrong~
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: moonlies on May 27, 2013, 03:08 am
ya def never check any kind of tracking through tor
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 27, 2013, 03:14 am
I agree with the never check tracking with TOR belief.  I personally never check tracking at all.
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: excellenttoast on May 27, 2013, 03:33 am
Yeah, tracking codes are sketch, I wouldn't use them even if a vendor offered unless a package went missing or didn't show up and I needed to resolve it.  Even then I would only want SR people checking it to see if I'm lying,
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: imoscardotcom on May 27, 2013, 03:52 am
I don't believe anything is impossible, which includes TOR, at some point, being anything but anonymous. Everything breaks eventually. Adaptation is the key to survival. However, I think it's highly improbable. Combined with constant updating of flaws and the sheer number of people using TOR, I feel pretty safe that my anonymity is secure. I'd be very disappointed to see TOR cracked by the government.

In the words of Creed Bratton: "If I can't scuba, then what's all this been about?"
Title: Re: TOR QUESTION
Post by: excellenttoast on May 27, 2013, 04:00 am
Yeah, I think changing your tor identity often and making sure to disable all scripts such as javascript and flash and such if the most basic one can do to try to mitigate possible leaks in tor's security.  I think the modified version of firefox that the tor browser uses is pretty good. It disables most things by default.  Running tor as a extension on a normal version of firefox or another browser is much more sketch