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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: motek on April 06, 2013, 06:15 am

Title: IMPORTANT! Updating reviews ... esp those who have FE'd!
Post by: motek on April 06, 2013, 06:15 am
 SOrry for a bit of an 'open ended rave' but I dont know how to get across the IMPORTANCE of HONEST REVIEWS/RATINGS for everyone who uses the SR  :P
   
  I'm fairly new here, but like many members I have spent a great deal of time checking out vendor reviews, both on their feedback pages, and (of course) in this forum.

 I'm not sure 'why' so many people FAIL TO UPDATE their feedback after receiving the product and saying   "Will update on testing/trying"  yet they NEVER DO!

This helps NO ONE!  Not the customers OR the vendors!   The vendors feedback and the forum reviews are the only way most of us have to help decide who to buy from..

As a 'community' we rely upon each others feedback to help us make good decisions ... By doing so,  (updating reviews/feedback) it  REALLY  HELPS   the community make informed decisions 8)   It's not that hard to write a 50 word review .... and IF you FE'd  you CAN GO BACK AND CHANGE IT if you're not happy with the product.

I can understand folks not wanting to affect their 'stats and status' by posting negative reviews BUT it's EXACTLY THIS behaviour which 'allows' vendors to get away with scamming folks ... remember the escrow system is there for BOTH parties, and IF they 'complain' they cant wait 20 days for an international order to arrive, and so REQUIRE FE ... should either stop offering international deliveries!  PLUS, once you've put your BTc in escrow, it's not like it can be used again for another purchase ...you HAVE made a commitment to them just by doing so, and ANY vendor worthy of their product, shouldn't be fussed with a few grand in Btc's taking time ti clear ...after all, the customer HAS to wait until the product arrives before they CAN review it, and I think most vendors know that "most" people WONT CHANGE their feedback/rating once the deal is done ... they just wont go back!

There IS a fairly high level of 'trust' required between customers and vendors to  treat each other fairly ... By FEing you choose to disrespect noy only the 'Principles of the Silk Road'  you also undermine and diminish all the good work done by those  before you who DID stick to the Escrow concept. 

I also had to sart with NO stats, and yet I found vendors who with a little communication, were ok with letting me use escrow, and I've not let one of them down, and now I have some VERY good relationships with some, who have gone out of their way to make sure I was looked after ... and they know they HAVE a LOYAL customer.

 I also let them know of any reviews I do on their product/s so they can see what I've said .... All have been grateful, and ALL have pm'd me to express their appreciation  8) 8)

 IF you dont update a product you gave 5/5 for that turns out to be shite,  HOW are we mere mortals supposed to know until everyone tells the truth? 
 
I have seen vendors with great stats begin to ship crap and selectively scam folks, and yet it rarely shows in their vendor reviews/feedback until it's FAR TOO LATE .... just look at Enter the Matrix  as an example ....   I cant recall seeing any negative feedback for them in hundreds of reviews ... and HOW MANY PEOPLE DID THEY FUCK OVER?  Lots!
 And they're just one of several vendors who seem to have 'gone rogue' during the recent  Btc price quadrupling fiasco!

 I think vendors shouldn't be allowed to 'insist' on FE AND a 5/5 feedback ... for ANY  REASON,  for ANY customers ... this just undermines the integrity of  ALL SR vendors!   


After checking out hundreds of vendors reviews, who have had hundreds of' 'successful'  transactions, and then their product's quality plummets, and sales drop off ...
 and yet its' usually  only the last 2 (or if you're lucky) 3  HONEST  'feedbacks'  given,  which will say so  ...  and I for one am  always grateful for their honesty

Vendors know that 'negative feedback' can put the vendor out of business. which is why they're so eager to maintain their (hard earned) satistics ... and fair enough
   
BUT, surely, there were many more who FE'd with these vendors, got burned and weren't happy  >:(   yet they didn't change their feedback  :o   Why not?


I would be very grateful to hear what other members have to say about this

cheers m



Title: Re: IMPORTANT! Updating reviews ... esp those who have FE'd!
Post by: mvick07 on April 06, 2013, 07:03 am
I have thought about this countless times. I have gone through pages and pages of feedback to find the "updates", but they're VERY rarely there. I actually update on ALL of my transactions because with drugs, people may count on what you say for safety or trust with a vendor. It's incredibly important. Glad you brought this up!
Title: Re: IMPORTANT! Updating reviews ... esp those who have FE'd!
Post by: motek on April 06, 2013, 11:56 am
 
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I have thought about this countless times. I have gone through pages and pages of feedback to find the "updates", but they're VERY rarely there. I actually update on ALL of my transactions because with drugs, people may count on what you say for safety or trust with a vendor. It's incredibly important. Glad you brought this up!

Thanks for the support  8)  To be honest it has me puzzled so ALL genuine responses will get a +1 from me  ;)
Title: Re: IMPORTANT! Updating reviews ... esp those who have FE'd!
Post by: b0lixtrader on April 06, 2013, 01:03 pm
I'm guessing it is the majority of or people who really don't give a shit about helping others out and they just write it because of that excitement and joy of the package arriving.  You know that happy mr.nice guy feeling you have when you get your drugs then once your over it you're back to your old self, we've all had it before lets not lie.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT! Updating reviews ... esp those who have FE'd!
Post by: jnemonic on April 06, 2013, 01:10 pm
I think one problem is that some SR buyers dont ever use the forums, or even know how to update their feedback.

I always update my feedback, and when i update, i actually write 'update', so other people know i have tried it.

People who have to FE shouldnt have to leave 5/5 before they receive.

But yeah why people wont change their feedback, who knows,  but it would be great if everyone would update their feedback.

But in the end, once we have found the vendors we want, their bookmarked and good times lay ahead. ;) ;D :P
Title: Re: IMPORTANT! Updating reviews ... esp those who have FE'd!
Post by: motek on April 06, 2013, 01:34 pm
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I'm guessing it is the majority of or people who really don't give a shit about helping others out and they just write it because of that excitement and joy of the package arriving.  You know that happy mr.nice guy feeling you have when you get your drugs then once your over it you're back to your old self, we've all had it before lets not lie

Yes I think you're absolutely correct here   8).... BUT .. c'mon folks lets make this place less "hit and miss" by bothering to give "correct feedback/reviews"

 If you want to get the MOST BENEFIT from the SR, it's definitely worth the effort, and it's just plain ole good karma  8)

  Johnny's got the right idea,  8) and honestly it's NOT that hard to do   :D... what maybe 10 mins if ToR's running slowly  :-\
Title: Re: IMPORTANT! Updating reviews ... esp those who have FE'd!
Post by: b0lixtrader on April 06, 2013, 01:44 pm
It makes me frustrated pretty badly as well.  I actually made an almost exact relevant post in a thread right when you made this one.  lol

I enjoy putting honest feedback about the product.  And even if the seller and I have a good relationship I still write an honest review on the forum whether it is bad or good things said about the product.  I sure as hell wouldn't want someone else to write a fake review just to suck up to the seller so I can go read that and waste my hard earned money or just go through unnecessary hassle.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT! Updating reviews ... esp those who have FE'd!
Post by: bandeto962 on April 06, 2013, 02:03 pm
Can anyone please explain how I update my reviews?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT! Updating reviews ... esp those who have FE'd!
Post by: motek on April 06, 2013, 02:18 pm
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Can anyone please explain how I update my reviews?

  A  Good question  8)  and far from 'stupid' ... the system here can be a little tricky at times  :P

1) click on your account at the top of the page

2)  click on 'feedback' and select the review you wish to change

3) click edit, and  "go for it"

 Plus 1 for the good question, which shows you want to  ;) 8)


Title: Re: IMPORTANT! Updating reviews ... esp those who have FE'd!
Post by: bandeto962 on April 06, 2013, 02:24 pm
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Can anyone please explain how I update my reviews?

  A  Good question  8)  and far from 'stupid' ... the system here can be a little tricky at times  :P

1) click on your account at the top of the page

2)  click on 'feedback' and select the review you wish to change

3) click edit, and  "go for it"

 Plus 1 for the good question, which shows you want to  ;) 8)

Thanks a ton dude. I have seen people post "Updates" but I never knew how. I'm now going to go back and make an update on all the products I've recieved and tried. Typically I finalize and comment on packaging, speed, communication, etc.