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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: oneiroi on April 02, 2013, 10:03 am
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I always wondering why Valium (diazepam) and Xanax (Alprazolam) are so popular, seppecially in the UK. The first one it's just not very recreational drug, the second one opposite, but very short therm acting around 2-3 h and withdrawal syndromes are just amazingly bad.
So why not lorazepam for instead or Clonazepam (Klonopin) - yes I know the advertisement (a tiny tiny sample http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/e8bafab8c7), sorry, couldn't resist ;)
Something in-between, something to mix gently with a pint of lager.
As one more time, why, why, whhyyyy...?
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I like xanax most, but of course WS are unbearable for me, that is diazepam as a remedy for ;)))
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Sounds like a good solution.
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The truth is, if I could I wold choose all of them
Omnomnomnom...
;))
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xanax is very recreational for me and flunitrazepam (rohypnol) is the most euphoric benzo altho dont mix rohypnol with alcohol unless you plan on completely blacking out..
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kpins are the best for a mix of actual functional medicine but still makin you feel kinda good. xan is more recreational and sometimes I like having something with a shorter duration
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K-pins are very amnesiotic in my experience.
It's way too easy for me to forget i already took some (and repeat this behavior).
I've lost entire Weeks of memory from it.
Never had such a problem with diazepam or xanax.
Also, when I take Valium or Xanax, I feel the onset more rapidly than the K-pins.
K-pins usually leave me "thinking" I am completely sober up until the point I realize that a week has gone bye.
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hey OP can you add flunitrazepam to the poll? Its by far my fav benzo
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hey OP can you add flunitrazepam to the poll? Its by far my fav benzo
Do polls allow for more that 5 slots?
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hey OP can you add flunitrazepam to the poll? Its by far my fav benzo
Do polls allow for more that 5 slots?
I think it allows but I was to lazy. Now I cannot change it.
Beside, look at the last position: very good, famous benzo - 0 votes...
Add 5 minutes later: my mistake, I can change the pool, so bee free and let me know what you wanna see there.
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1. Zopiclone (most euforic)
2. Xanax (nice hit, very anxiologic)
3. Clonazepam (dont feel much, but with alcohol you will be knocked out)
To Try:
Diazepam
Flunirazepam
BTW. I cant find any flunitrazepam or rohypnol on the road. So why add it to the poll?
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not every listing on the road is visible to everyone..
But occasionaly vendors put up flunitrazepam for sale on public listings that everyone can see.\
I voted in the poll for my 2nd best benzo xanax , but if i knew how to change it i wud switch my answer to flunitrazepam in a second.
Definitely the most euphoric benzo to me
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I always wondering why Valium (diazepam) and Xanax (Alprazolam) are so popular. The first one it's just not very recreational drug, the second one opposite, but very short therm acting around 2-3 h and withdrawal syndromes are just amazingly bad.
So why not lorazepam for instead or Clonazepam (Klonopin) - yes I know the advertisement, sorry, couldn't resist ;)
Something in-between, somting to mix gently with a pint of lager.
As one more time, why, why, whhyyyy...?
because there the two most common by a heck of a lot. i think people love xanax so much because its such a powerful anxiolytic and with so much stress in our lives today its very refreshing. personally i prefer hypnotic 3-hydro series temazepam especially. benzos seem to be very personal in terms of which is the most euphoric and most effective compared to say opiates or emthanogens
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Clonazepam has to be my favourite i reckon. Diazepam a close second. Tried xanax and didnt really think much to it. Nitrazepams good too. I just like benzos in general. It's too easy to start liking them a little too much in my experience though!
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unlike many muslims, i do not get any recreational effect from xanax but i do like it the most because it just puts me to sleep after stimulant use such as coke or meth. to me, xanax doesnt do anything for anxiety or to feel chillin, its totally abotu sleep.
valium is great for chillin though
fuck im hanging for of MiMM's coke.. mmmmmmmm fucken get it in ya boys
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Yes Clonazepam and beer, sometimes OK, sometimes you woke up in the fores 3 days later in a wedding dress ;)
And you are a male.
True story, not mine, but true ;)
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I've yet to meet a benzo I didn't like, but xanax is the best all around IMHO.
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Yes Clonazepam and beer, sometimes OK, sometimes you woke up in the fores 3 days later in a wedding dress ;)
And you are a male.
True story, not mine, but true ;)
True. I think it is the only benzo on the list you could mix, but carefully.
Sometimes 1mg and a pint of strong lager and you are the king of the night ;)
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I'm going to try temezepan soon so maybe I will change my mind (hopefully you can do it in this pool...?)
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recently sampled a bag which held Alprazolam, diazepam, nitrazepam and lorazepam . Was really interested in comparing them but the end result is that taking benzo's in recreational dosages will fuck up your memory and i honestly cant tell you which one i liked more or why.
They all did the job to get mellow before passing out, sleeping deep and forgetting most of what happened.
I say go for the cheapest stuff, in the end it does not seem to matter ;-)
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I added a few more, just in case, because I remember that Bromazepam was quite nice, simply chill out, nothing exacting, and very helpful with the sleep issues.
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Lorazepam/ Diazepam
if i can get Midazolam nasal spray
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Xanax is crushing Clonazepam's face just by one punch. What an amazing fight ;)))
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K-pins are very amnesiotic in my experience.
It's way too easy for me to forget i already took some (and repeat this behavior).
I've lost entire Weeks of memory from it.
Never had such a problem with diazepam or xanax.
Also, when I take Valium or Xanax, I feel the onset more rapidly than the K-pins.
K-pins usually leave me "thinking" I am completely sober up until the point I realize that a week has gone bye.
I know exactly what you mean! This happens to me too. just with clonis, i dont get it? must be something with the makeup but that is strange huh. I gotta admit, it still is pretty fun.
I just love all benzos, I actually think i need them cuz i got bad anxiety, but havent been able to get them from any damn doctor cuz they think im a druggie 8). But now i can hopefully find a good benzo vendor that can hook it up at a good price with some name brand shit.
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Clonazepam will be my favorite. Subtle like valium but strong enough like xanax.
Valium is good but horrible if your going to take it more than a month, tolerance builds up way to fast for me. Xanax is best when you're really crashing HARD.
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All benziodiazepines affect the GAMA receptor in your brain, eg., while different, they have similar "issues" ("I drank a few beers, at a couple a Xannies... OH FUCK! Who are you in my bed with a penis!!!??? LOL ;D
Xanax is a short-acting quick releaser. Eg. It hits its punch quicker and harder, but does not last as long
--Still a go to obviously
Lorazepam is on the light end of the spectrum... strength vs. longetivity... Clinically used in hospitals for seizures and shit. If you go to the hospital "AH IM FREAKING" you will get 12 1mg of these and a nice bill. :o
Temazepam upward to the others you cannot get prescribed Flurazepam and such... Temazepam is a sleep aid, is strong as hell, and lasts long as hell when used impromperly as Im sure you will crack open the capsule. Do not drink liquor with this or you will black out on you tile floor. No interest past temazepam for me
**Valium 10mg is the benchmark** Diazepam: 10mg Diazepam generally equivocates to:
1mg Alprazolam,
1.25-1.5 mg Lorazepam (tolerance sensitivity use caution)
0.75mg Clonazepam (tolerance sensitivity use caution)
7.5mg Temazepam (*** Prescribed doses are available in 15mg or 30mg TIMED RELEASED which is null when u open the capsule. (Sensitivity based, *****PLEASE**** don't eat 15 mg Hydocodone and do 4 shots of 40% EtOH under any of these. Promise you wana wake up tmrw not remembering and opposed not remembering not waking up.) Or yea you look cool tonight and ice cold dead in three day, Rock on!
My favorite is Clonazepam: Long-Acting half-life (stays punching longer, just takes longer to punch, UNLESS you get the dissolving tabs that sit on you tongue as I do :D... then its a xanax on roids! Search for Banana flavored Clonazepam its an Oral dissolvable tablet.
SAFETY ADVICE/TIPS/BE SMART PLEASE ***(You need not do this unless you have eaten benzos frequently)
1) Ok, on an empty stomach, if you drink 24-32 oz of grapefruit juice (Simply Grapefruit, 100%, not the pink shit, it inhibits receptors in your stomach that your liver would tax, but this bypasses that so you get it straight in your blood. Expect 1.5-2x strength of Benzo... (esp Valium, Klonopin, and Xanax but its short lived. Did i say screw lorazepam? K did now. that 10mg valium is now a 20mg valium in you. Quite whining about the taste, you know that fat woman tasted,,,, nevermind.
2) Salicylic Acid (Aspirin): Thins your blood. If you have a bad stomach, steer clear its hard on it. If you can eat fire, your... rocking. No more than 900-950mg.. **MAX of 1300mg/24 hours*** (3 tabs of generic tabs are usually 325mg). This is also a magnifier of the a benzo. **START LOW SMARTS... Dont waste your benzo on the floor or in bed with penis-psuedo-woman!**
3) Carisoprodol 350mg (Soma) Muscle Relaxer, Different than others: This is the Universal Magnifier! Take *one*... no need to crush with benzo (or if hydrocodone is your thing that 10mg just now is a 20mg, 3 beers a 25mg)... Euphorically Calming and intensifies symbiotically (I know science.. So says my degree) whatever you are taking. Empty stomach though again, or else your food is enjoying its relaxation!
************* DONT BE A DUMBASS PLEASE. WE WANT DUMBASSES ALIVE.****************** Benzo's are creepers and you add Ethanol, or other things, you be fine to blacked out walking.... yea walking, *I know*... conversing as well. That is advice to be used at u discretion. If you have had 90 0.5mg Alprazolam 3x Daily, you have tolerance. If you have only had a cold pop..... Be smart. Enjoy the drug, not the juice, aspirin, soma, penischicks, hydrocodone, ethanol (really drink beers guys... if you do drink. I do... Beers. VERY BAD EXPERIENCES *shown to me via iPhone of shit Ive done just at home. It's not cool and you can die.
On that note, my hand hurts.
Self Prescription: 1) Hot Vaginated Gilfriend in shower, while I am drinking a gallon of grapefruit juice as a chase to 8 shots of everclear, 6 aspirin, 40mg valium, 3mg Xanax, One Soma, One Vicodin 30 (rare).
******^^^^^^^^^^^Bullshit ^^^^^^ except gilfriend in shower, 1mg klonopin and a soma :) Im tolerancetastically great!!!
You are not badass dont OD, and DO NOT NOT NOT do this shit with oxycodone. Damn. You will die, say you wont, cool, but you will. Hot ER girlfriend will testify.
Be safe, stay alive, peace, karmanate! ;)
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How long does a xanax affect you guys?
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Xanax or quicker unless it be sublingual. 15 to 30 if your belly isnt full but hungry. BAM. Beer. Beer. Chilllllllllll . 3 hours of peace from those voices.... :o
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I used to do 220+mg of valium while I went to full binge of Opana(oxymorphone) 60mg. I was snorting+smoking couple of those a day on top of 200+mg of vaium, smoking pot, and snorting coke so basically speedballing for weeks. Eventually had a seizure one night when I added alcohol.
If I didn't have such a high benzo tolerance I'm afraid I might not have never woke up one day. Oxymorphone is on par with some of the purest heroin if not stronger.
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Clonaz *drool*
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Temazepam upward to the others you cannot get prescribed Flurazepam and such... Temazepam is a sleep aid, is strong as hell, and lasts long as hell when used impromperly as Im sure you will crack open the capsule. Do not drink liquor with this or you will black out on you tile floor. No interest past temazepam for me
So I must have huge tolerance because i took last night 150mg of temazepam and nothing, nothing at all. SR green UK tablet source. I drunk 1 strong 7.6% Polish lager and then I felt that I am tired. Nothing more.
In the same time when I take 2 mg of Clonazepam and 1 lager similar % it put me in the nice sleep.
SAFETY ADVICE/TIPS/BE SMART PLEASE ***(You need not do this unless you have eaten benzos frequently)
1) Ok, on an empty stomach, if you drink 24-32 oz of grapefruit juice (Simply Grapefruit, 100%, not the pink shit, it inhibits receptors in your stomach that your liver would tax, but this bypasses that so you get it straight in your blood. Expect 1.5-2x strength of Benzo... (esp Valium, Klonopin, and Xanax but its short lived. Did i say screw lorazepam? K did now. that 10mg valium is now a 20mg valium in you. Quite whining about the taste, you know that fat woman tasted,,,, nevermind.
So what you mean is any 100% Grapefruit juice increase power of any benzo? Any evidence of this statement? Is it because of serotonin release, or what, any clue?
Self Prescription: 1) Hot Vaginated Gilfriend in shower, while I am drinking a gallon of grapefruit juice as a chase to 8 shots of everclear, 6 aspirin, 40mg valium, 3mg Xanax, One Soma, One Vicodin 30 (rare).
******^^^^^^^^^^^Bullshit ^^^^^^ except gilfriend in shower, 1mg klonopin and a soma :) Im tolerancetastically great!!!
OMFG!
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unlike many muslims, i do not get any recreational effect from xanax but i do like it the most because it just puts me to sleep after stimulant use such as coke or meth. to me, xanax doesnt do anything for anxiety or to feel chillin, its totally abotu sleep.
valium is great for chillin though
fuck im hanging for of MiMM's coke.. mmmmmmmm fucken get it in ya boys
.....many muslims do xanax?
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It might be some kind of a tradition, I suppose...
:o
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So what you mean is any 100% Grapefruit juice increase power of any benzo? Any evidence of this statement? Is it because of serotonin release, or what, any clue?
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as far as i know it only works with 3 hydro series ie diazepam, temazepam, oxazepam ect, it works but replacing the enzyme that is responsible for breaking down the benzo, really in my experiance it mostly makes it last longer but not hit that much harder.
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So what you mean is any 100% Grapefruit juice increase power of any benzo? Any evidence of this statement? Is it because of serotonin release, or what, any clue?
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as far as i know it only works with 3 hydro series ie diazepam, temazepam, oxazepam ect, it works but replacing the enzyme that is responsible for breaking down the benzo, really in my experiance it mostly makes it last longer but not hit that much harder.
So it won't work with Clonazepam, isn't it?
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Temazepam upward to the others you cannot get prescribed Flurazepam and such... Temazepam is a sleep aid, is strong as hell, and lasts long as hell when used impromperly as Im sure you will crack open the capsule. Do not drink liquor with this or you will black out on you tile floor. No interest past temazepam for me
So I must have huge tolerance because i took last night 150mg of temazepam and nothing, nothing at all. SR green UK tablet source. I drunk 1 strong 7.6% Polish lager and then I felt that I am tired. Nothing more.
In the same time when I take 2 mg of Clonazepam and 1 lager similar % it put me in the nice sleep.
*************** TimeER- Release, did you just eat swolllow them? That's why there encapsulated, such as the salts of amphetamine, the "ER" type, deliever a certain amount at at certain timen. Some just break open the capsules and negate the intended extended-realease. *******
SAFETY ADVICE/TIPS/BE SMART PLEASE ***(You need not do this unless you have eaten benzos frequently)
1) Ok, on an empty stomach, if you drink 24-32 oz of grapefruit juice (Simply Grapefruit, 100%, not the pink shit, it inhibits receptors in your stomach that your liver would tax, but this bypasses that so you get it straight in your blood. Expect 1.5-2x strength of Benzo... (esp Valium, Klonopin, and Xanax but its short lived. Did i say screw lorazepam? K did now. that 10mg valium is now a 20mg valium in you. Quite whining about the taste, you know that fat woman tasted,,,, nevermind.
So what you mean is any 100% Grapefruit juice increase power of any benzo? Any evidence of this statement? Is it because of serotonin release, or what, any clue?
*** Yes, that is what I mean, depending on your tolerance factor. There is indeed evidence regarding Cytochorme p450 (major boring shit liver enzymes, have at it) being inhibited by Grapefruit Juice. Perhaps I should have stated "longetivity" even though "power" (if u mean initial strength?) is affected. Benzos hang around and say hello longer with Grapefruit Juice at the party as well. So, that next one your used to taking .... maybe wait a little longer.
Self Prescription: 1) Hot Vaginated Gilfriend in shower, while I am drinking a gallon of grapefruit juice as a chase to 8 shots of everclear, 6 aspirin, 40mg valium, 3mg Xanax, One Soma, One Vicodin 30 (rare).
******^^^^^^^^^^^Bullshit ^^^^^^ except gilfriend in shower, 1mg klonopin and a soma :) Im tolerancetastically great!!!
OMFG!
Well??? She is HOT!!
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In general I don't find benzos to be all that recreational. They're one of the few drugs that is pretty much only good at what they're SUPPOSED to be for - anxiolytic effects and muscle relaxant qualities in the case of diazepam. Valium is the only benzo (and I've tried most of them) that produces what I would call actual "euphoria," while xanax turns me into a zombie and klonopin just makes me sleep for 12 hours. Sure, they're fun with alcohol at first but in my experience benzos+EtOH always results in you overdoing it, passing out and waking up with a swiss-cheese memory of what happened the night before.
I try to keep a modest-sized stash of valium on hand to help with stimulant comedown and as a (mostly mental) weapon against potentially bad trips when using psychedelics. It's just nice to know that you have it, if it need it. It sits next to my ondansetron as a utilitarian, rather than recreational, pharmaceutical.
So, my vote is for plain, good old classic diazepam. It's the most predictable and enjoyable of the group.
And to those who are wondering and would like some sources; grapefruit juice increases the potency and duration of many different drugs via inhibition of the cytochrome P450 enzyme which is responsible for the metabolism of many biologically active compounds. It works for benzos, opiates, and amphetamines as well as a slew of other non-recreational drugs. They stick around for longer and in higher concentrations due to this enzymatic inhibition. (WARNING CLEARNET LINKS: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9625273 , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytochrome_p450 )
In my experience, grapefruit juice mildly enhances the experience, even with amphetamines where you'd think the extra acid might adversely affect things.
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And to those who are wondering and would like some sources; grapefruit juice increases the potency and duration of many different drugs via inhibition of the cytochrome P450 enzyme which is responsible for the metabolism of many biologically active compounds. It works for benzos, opiates, and amphetamines as well as a slew of other non-recreational drugs. They stick around for longer and in higher concentrations due to this enzymatic inhibition. (WARNING CLEARNET LINKS: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9625273 , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytochrome_p450 )
In my experience, grapefruit juice mildly enhances the experience, even with amphetamines where you'd think the extra acid might adversely affect things.
P450 is a very interesting topic in relation with benzos. What I have found:
There’s been quite a lot of conflicting information about whether or not various benzos are potentiated by grapefruit juice or not: So here for SWIY’s viewing pleasure is what SWIJ has been able to dig up.
Grapefruit juice inhibits Cytochrome P450 (CY3PA specifically), which is found both in the liver and the wall of the small intestine. These enzymes metabolise benzodiazepines. The theory is, is that if the enzymes are inhibited then there will be greater bioavailability of the drug (for example, requiring lower doses to get the same effect). However it’s not quite so simple. This effect only comes into play if the parent drug is subject to extensive first pass metabolism. Drugs with high oral bioavailability (because of low first pass metabolism) are not affected by enzyme inhibition significantly.
Obviously grapefruit juice does not have an effect if benzodiazepines are taken parenterally (IV or IM), because first pass metabolism is eliminated.
SWIJ has seen it stated in various places on the net that it is only ruby grapefruit that has effect: Not so. Most of the studies were done with normal white grapefruit.
So, here we go.
Benzos definitely potentiated by grapefruit juice:
Triazolam (Halcion), Diazepam (Valium) and Midazolam (Versed)
Benzos definitely NOT potentiated by grapefruit juice:
Alprazolam (Xanax)
Benzos theoretically potentiated by grapefruit juice, but effects probably not clinically significant (because of high oral bioavailability):
Clonazepam (Klonopin), Lorazepam (Ativan), Chlordiazepoxide, Flurazepam (Dalmane), Temazepam (Restoril)
NB: No studies have been done on these benzos specifically
Another factor that comes into play is the duration of intake of grapefruit juice. Triazolam particularly has been studied. Studies have shown that although a single glass of juice increases plasma concentrations and half-life, repeated glasses of juice over three days has an even greater effect. This effect lasts for about 3 days after discontinuation of grapefruit juice.
Some other tit bits gleaned: Grapefruit juice is not the only juice to inhibit CY3PA. Others having an effect are: black mulberry > wild grape > pomegranate > black raspberry. All however have less of an effect than grapefruit. Star Fruit also appears to be a potent enzyme inhibitor. Pomegranate juice also inhibits CY3PA
On a side note: Other downers affected by grapefruit juice are: Buspirone (strongly clinically significant), Zaleplon (moderate significance), and Zolpidem (unlikely to be clinically significant).
and also:
Swia herself noticed a potentiation in effects with clonazepam when she was using them. she had read it increased the effect and got curious so tried it with a smaller amount then normal she had drunk the gf juice a hour before hand on an empty stomach before swia had 2 mg. She does not condone this but had noticed an increase in effects comparing to what would of been a small dose. DO not combine this mix with alcohol specially spirits, if u do the end result is not pretty..
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SWIdr has tried the grapefruit potentiation on several benzos. In his experiences, grapefruit juice (ingested approx. 30 minutes before benzo) has a good potentiation effect on: Valium (Diazepam), Klonopin (Clonazepam), and Tranxene (Chlorazepate). Grapefruit juice seems to have a mild potentiation effect on: Xanax (Alprazolam), Ativan (Lorazepam), and Librium (Chlordiazepoxide).
The rest of discussion on WARNING CLEARNET:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26819
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I'm a big fan of Ativan.
I really like benzos so I do my best to limit how much i indulge.
Ativan just seems to have the most pronounced anti-anxiety properties and leaves me feeling refreshed and clear headed the next day.
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I'm a big fan of Ativan.
I really like benzos so I do my best to limit how much i indulge.
Ativan just seems to have the most pronounced anti-anxiety properties and leaves me feeling refreshed and clear headed the next day.
That's funny, because Ativan is the only one I really can't stand. Always makes me feel cold and empty in a weird way.
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My God, that is strange. There was a time when I was eating Lorazepam as a candies, probably it was to weak for me. I need to taste it again. Or I was then to much under influence of GBL which works on GABA receptor as well but GABA B (not like benzos - GABA A).
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Fuck all benzos!
They are created by a pharma industry that want to turn you into mindless zombies.
SR offers enough alternatives.
The only benzo I took more than one time is Bromazepam. I have found a wonderful substitute with GHB.
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Fuck all benzos!
They are created by a pharma industry that want to turn you into mindless zombies.
SR offers enough alternatives.
The only benzo I took more than one time is Bromazepam. I have found a wonderful substitute with GHB.
Actually when you built up a tolerance and you actually have severe depression+anxiety it makes you way more active and out going as well as cutting down the daily stress by a lot. When taken with caution it is a great drug. Also a godsend for coming down off speedy drugs or when you are just exhausted and want your body to lose that tension and relax.
Goes amazing with bud and cocaine.
I fucking love it.
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Fuck all benzos!
They are created by a pharma industry that want to turn you into mindless zombies.
SR offers enough alternatives.
The only benzo I took more than one time is Bromazepam. I have found a wonderful substitute with GHB.
Actually when you built up a tolerance and you actually have severe depression+anxiety it makes you way more active and out going as well as cutting down the daily stress by a lot. When taken with caution it is a great drug. Also a godsend for coming down off speedy drugs or when you are just exhausted and want your body to lose that tension and relax.
Goes amazing with bud and cocaine.
I fucking love it.
Yep, benzos are an amazing 'reset' drug. You can relax and easily come down off any other drug or from a stressful week.
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Fuck all benzos!
They are created by a pharma industry that want to turn you into mindless zombies.
SR offers enough alternatives.
The only benzo I took more than one time is Bromazepam. I have found a wonderful substitute with GHB.
Actually when you built up a tolerance and you actually have severe depression+anxiety it makes you way more active and out going as well as cutting down the daily stress by a lot. When taken with caution it is a great drug. Also a godsend for coming down off speedy drugs or when you are just exhausted and want your body to lose that tension and relax.
Goes amazing with bud and cocaine.
I fucking love it.
Goes what, benzos or GHB?
I love GBL (GHB) but my GABA B receptors are so fucked up, that only relief is Clonazepam or Diazepam. Otherwise, I'm dead.
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Yes Clonazepam and beer, sometimes OK, sometimes you woke up in the fores 3 days later in a wedding dress ;)
And you are a male.
True story, not mine, but true ;)
True. I think it is the only benzo on the list you could mix, but carefully.
Sometimes 1mg and a pint of strong lager and you are the king of the night ;)
Hmmm I like the combo of Xanax and beer. First X to chill out and then drink. But when you keep drinking you WILL fall asleep. Do do it safe at home where your bed is nearby. Clonazepam and beer will also work but when i take 2mg clono and feel nothing within and hour i pop a second one and end up on the couch without even drinking.
So these two are good to combine with alcohol. Also i take Xanax first with a Zopiclone before smoking weed the only way to get relaxly stoned.
What other benzo combo's have tried and liked? Together with, shrooms, lsd, heroin, coke, speed(not for comedown), etc? Or maybe a combination of bezo's Xanax and zopiclone combine wery well.
Etizolam should have these 2 properties too, anxiologic + sedative so thats's my first one to try out!