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Title: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: poshiger on May 12, 2013, 04:15 am
Has anyone done it?

How did it turn out? This would solve my problem with ordering waxes in the summer.
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: novakane on May 12, 2013, 06:12 am
I do it weekly.  I find it really easy to make.  Purging is the difficult part, but once you know how, I don't find that difficult either.  I can do a batch in under an hour now.  It turns out great :)
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: RS7FI8ZRkm on May 12, 2013, 06:54 am
- done it many times.. always turns nice, each time little unique.

you'll need:
- Materials
- Place to do it
- common sense.

feel free to ask if you have any more questions :P
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: ThisSHITScrazyman on May 12, 2013, 07:00 am
I want to do this as well but was wondering a few things  How much bho would I retain in grams from say

QP of trim would be how much BHO oil in grams?

QP of nug would this be any different?

Or maybe even an OZ of each how much>?
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: novakane on May 12, 2013, 07:09 am
I usually get around 10-20% back from nug.
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: RS7FI8ZRkm on May 12, 2013, 07:14 am
I want to do this as well but was wondering a few things  How much bho would I retain in grams from say

QP of trim would be how much BHO oil in grams?

QP of nug would this be any different?

Or maybe even an OZ of each how much>?
ranges greatly with the active amounts THC an other cannabinoid related resins are in the material you extract.. so using leafs, steams.. will have yield, but you'll get more with budz

sorry can't really calculate that just throwing my 2 cents :P
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: White 0ut on May 12, 2013, 07:23 am
Can any of the OG's put together a collective tutorial on the methods?

I would pay for a tut with pics that actually got me BHO as a resulting product!

I have been curious for ages but just scared to do it...
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: RS7FI8ZRkm on May 12, 2013, 08:09 am
Can any of the OG's put together a collective tutorial on the methods?

I would pay for a tut with pics that actually got me BHO as a resulting product!

I have been curious for ages but just scared to do it...
many options when it comes to extracting, but main factor is budget..
If your will to spending little extra coin, I suggest going with a glass on glass extractor
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and investing into a good source of highly purified butane. the actual extraction process should be done in a well vented area where nothing can spark or light!! grind the materials finely as possible with a /clean (coffee) grinder/ then place materials in the extraction device, now prepare a Pyrex baking dish or other flight pan an with thick gloves (also they say eye protection is a good idea)..

now hold the extractor above the dish, an begin to release the butane into the extractors port. I've noticed everybody's got their "technique" for releasing the butane into the chamber, but hers mine I hold the extractor tight an press slowly till I feel the extractor pressurized.. I continue to hold the tip of the butane in the extractor and begin to sort in a circle motion shake it up an down.. then begin releasing more butane into the chamber.. I'll do this 2-3 times.. last one with a good little shake..

from there you can purge or just set the dish in some warm water and watch the butane start to evaporate away remember to wait for the butane to completely evaporate.. ;D

as far as purging goes, I can't help you :P

An please remember safety first! butane is a highly flammable (derp) so do your best to keep your eye brows an such! :)
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: novakane on May 12, 2013, 08:17 am
I don't know if you'd consider me an 'OG' lol, but this is essentially the method I use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTVRYk0Zdg4
'New Method for making BHO' on youtube if you do not want to follow the link.

This is kind of like the thermos method slightly altered.  Another step I take is winterizing (removing plant fats/waxes/etc).  To winterize from the last step in the video, wait for the butane to be evaporated mostly.  Add enough everclear and stir it around to dissolve the oil in the everclear.  Filter the everclear through a coffee filter(s) (I wet the coffee filter with everclear before filtering it to prevent loss of oil into filters).  Drain everclear solution onto a flat collection plate (I use a square pyrex plate).  I place the plate flat on top of a pot of boiling water (essentially a double boil) to evaporate the everclear.  I scrape up the oil with a paint chipper holder thing which is made as a grip for razor blades.  Depending on how dry you let it get, and whether it dries spread thin or as a pile, will determine the consistency in my experience.

http://buymarijuanaseeds.com/community/threads/ethanol-re-extraction-of-butane-hash-oil.148673/
This is a forum post showing the winterization step I describe.

It's a very cheap and easy process, I would recommend to any serious marijuana partakers.
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: RS7FI8ZRkm on May 13, 2013, 12:27 am
op? :P
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: poshiger on May 13, 2013, 02:30 am
op? :P
I'm here... I'm just scared..

what are the yields like?
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: RS7FI8ZRkm on May 13, 2013, 03:06 am
op? :P
I'm here... I'm just scared..

what are the yields like?
;) nothing ventured nothing gained..

do a little searching on the net..
or I found this,  I believe it to be accurate .. :P
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Yield is based on a few factors, mainly the potency of your starting product. A 10:1 Ratio for bho is really low...unless your using really low quality shake/trim/flower. From some nice top shelf flowers, 20%+ yield is not uncommon, and i have seen over 25% return several times. That would be a 5:1 bud/oil ratio at 20% yield. You said your friend got 4 grams from a 1/2 oz? That would be a 35% return...never seen or heard of anyone getting close to that high of a return..except with bubble hash or kief that is..Perhaps he didnt fully purge or plant matter got into the oil like you said..
How fully and tightly are you packing your extraction tube? This might account for your low return %
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: novakane on May 13, 2013, 04:21 am
Does the yield make a difference to you per say?  What you're doing is extracting the cannabinoids, and you can repeat the process a couple times if you'd like to ensure you don't lose much if anything.  I would say that it's more about how efficient whatever you're using to smoke/vape/whatever it is.  Even I can make oil go a long way and I smoke constantly, but it's because I have an efficient pen vape made for concentrates.
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: Electric Paper on May 13, 2013, 06:57 am
Has anyone done it?

I don't think anyone has ever done that. All the oil in circulation today is from natural oil deposits underground. You have to have special oil rigs and drilling equipment to get deep enough into the earth's crust to pump it to the surface. Best leave that to the professionals.
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: poshiger on May 13, 2013, 05:33 pm
Does the yield make a difference to you per say?  What you're doing is extracting the cannabinoids, and you can repeat the process a couple times if you'd like to ensure you don't lose much if anything.  I would say that it's more about how efficient whatever you're using to smoke/vape/whatever it is.  Even I can make oil go a long way and I smoke constantly, but it's because I have an efficient pen vape made for concentrates.
If I would save a considerable amount of money by buying flowers and making oil instead of buying oil, then it would. Also that way I'd know the vendor didn't use crap bud in it.
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: novakane on May 14, 2013, 04:47 am
Does the yield make a difference to you per say?  What you're doing is extracting the cannabinoids, and you can repeat the process a couple times if you'd like to ensure you don't lose much if anything.  I would say that it's more about how efficient whatever you're using to smoke/vape/whatever it is.  Even I can make oil go a long way and I smoke constantly, but it's because I have an efficient pen vape made for concentrates.
If I would save a considerable amount of money by buying flowers and making oil instead of buying oil, then it would. Also that way I'd know the vendor didn't use crap bud in it.

It's possible to save money, but there's fair deals on SR for it also.  If you can get a can of good butane, and 190 proof alcohol, I say go for it.
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: RS7FI8ZRkm on May 14, 2013, 09:05 pm
has anybody else heard about the 'supercritical extraction' (C02 extraction) method? :P


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Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 14, 2013, 09:32 pm
Bubble hash is so simple, doesn't involve petroleum products and doesn't need purged to further clean it.  I think I'll stick with that.  Don't get me wrong, I've made BHO plenty of times back before purging and before I found out that there is left over chemicals in it but I don't know anymore with all this purging shit.  Bubble hash is beauriful, delicious and easier to handle. :)
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: novakane on May 14, 2013, 10:01 pm
I use Everclear as a second wash to get rid of not only plant fats and waxes, but I believe it also gets rid of the left over butane.  Butane dissolves in everclear, so once you evaporate all the everclear, the butane is gone.  Butane is a non polar solvent, and grain alcohol is a semi polar solvent.
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: NOTspacecase on May 14, 2013, 10:06 pm
Leave it to the "professionals", unless ofc, you have the proper environment/equipment and knowledge to do so. Too many noobs blast a ounce through just a glass tube then heat purge it for a few hours, not realizing this is not the proper way to do it...There's so much misinformation out there I don't think anyone should try and make it unless they know 100% what they are doing. Kids blowing themselves up, people smoking hash not even purged, just people being idiots...

Also, water hash is where it's at. Learn that, way more fun.

Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: l0verboy on May 14, 2013, 10:39 pm
I had my own little extraction technique on a minisqual scale. I would use 7 grams of shwag and pack it into a crayola marker.... Worked great and was very cost effective.
Title: Re: Should I try and make my own BHO?
Post by: NOTspacecase on May 14, 2013, 11:01 pm
I had my own little extraction technique on a minisqual scale. I would use 7 grams of shwag and pack it into a crayola marker.... Worked great and was very cost effective.

Yup, that's your average concentrate maker/smoker. No sense. too bad you are only talking out your ass.