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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: opentoe on March 25, 2012, 06:39 am

Title: Post Office Box requires ID/Name anyway so why ship there instead of home?
Post by: opentoe on March 25, 2012, 06:39 am
I was told to have things delivered to a PO Box. To get a PO Box you need to supply them with an digital photo ID which has all your info on it. What is the difference or advantage of shipping to a PO BOX then to your home address then? How do you have things shipped? I will only deal with domestic mail, so most things will be delivered with first class or better. What do the experienced recommend for delivery places?
Title: Re: Post Office Box requires ID/Name anyway so why ship there instead of home?
Post by: chiefrogan on March 25, 2012, 06:44 am
durrrrrr fake id, chief!
Title: Re: Post Office Box requires ID/Name anyway so why ship there instead of home?
Post by: mdmafx on March 25, 2012, 08:15 am
In Australia you don't need to provide a Photo ID. Two bills in your 'name' and that contains your 'address' is fine, so easy to photoshop. If you turn up at 5pm to open a PoBox believe me they are more interested in going home then checking over your documentation thoroughly.

Just make sure you use a post office that doesn't have camera's anywhere near the PoBox you will be using and open it and collect your mail in such a way you don't leave fingerprints. Stick to these basic rules and its far safer than using your own home address. If it does get flagged by customs, open another one no biggie.
Title: Re: Post Office Box requires ID/Name anyway so why ship there instead of home?
Post by: mdmafx on March 25, 2012, 10:59 am
they ask for 2 forms of document ID (showing address) like utility bills etc.. (easy to photoshop)
forms at:
http://auspost.com.au/media/documents/pobox-application-form-2011.pdf
Title: Re: Post Office Box requires ID/Name anyway so why ship there instead of home?
Post by: czxtvr on March 26, 2012, 01:52 am
That's what technology is here for....so use it and you will be fine.
Title: Re: Post Office Box requires ID/Name anyway so why ship there instead of home?
Post by: Appa on March 26, 2012, 06:00 am
Please do note that using a fake ID to receive mail in this manner would be considered mail fraud, which is a felony (in the US).  That could be a significantly worse charge than personal-amount drug purchases.  Just something to consider.
Title: Re: Post Office Box requires ID/Name anyway so why ship there instead of home?
Post by: mdmafx on March 26, 2012, 08:12 am
i would assume that its a federal crime here in aus.

re auspost applications for a POBOX, for the 'two forms of document ID' (showing address) what is the 'id,last 4 digits' referring to?
the 'Post BillPay' number on the back of utility invoices? if these document id's are not being checked, wouldnt every dodgy bugger in aus have a POBOX in a fake name?
i assume you can pay cash? and assume they give the keys to you on the spot? and i would also assume they would post confirmation documents in the post to your residential address you listed on your POBOX application? maybe post the keys to you, should they not be received on the spot when submitting the application.

mdmafx, i  would love a little more info as im interested, beit on PM or here.
Definitely interested in this info as well I was just wondering about those mystery digits, perhaps pm would be best for a few of the details but only if you don't mind letting us in mdmafx :)

But Appa you raise an excellent point, I guess at the moment I'm just tossing up between (assuming I ever get caught, and for all intents and purposes it's good to assume I will) a drug conviction vs. a conviction for fraud.. although it seems like it'd be a lot harder to be caught for fraud once a p.o. box is set up.

I know nothing about mail fraud so do it at your own risk...

To answer your question I don't think they even know what the document ID field means.
I filled out the bpay number in that lol, she didn't even look twice at it. This could also vary from post office to post office, so just pick out the dumbest/laziest looking clerke to process your application and believe me at Australia Post their is plenty of choice for that....
Title: Re: Post Office Box requires ID/Name anyway so why ship there instead of home?
Post by: riddikulus on March 26, 2012, 11:19 am
PO Boxes are simple...

UPSIDE:
#1: Isolating your drugs from your home. Not only can you never have the drugs in your house if you choose, but you can also remove anyone else you're living with from the equation. Roommate, girlfriend, wife, mom, kids? Having more control is clearly better in this situation.

#2: Paranoid about address profiling? It's easy to change a PO Bbx address. If you get a "love letter" or even have a couple packages go missing that you think may have been snagged you can simply close the PO box and move on to another location. People seem to be paranoid about customs building long cases over time on people for small amounts of drugs. This adds another layer of protection. New address, new fake names, good to go? Sure, they could go through the time to contact the po box office and find out who the registered name is, then add that to a list and try and profile that... but with many people having the same name this is pretty unlikely. It also suggests a large amount of work for a mail box that maybe got 5 or 6g of coke in it over 2 months? (or whatever). Hardly worth it when resources are already stretched.

#3: Using fake names to setup the box. If this is your calling, go for it. Sure, it's much worse if you get busted but if you're prepared for that risk, your call. Personally I probably wouldn't, this is something that would be incredibly difficult to get off on in court. It would be very easy to prove you opened it with a fake ID and get charges with Fraud. You have to remember even if you had drugs busted at your mail box it's going to be very hard to have charges go all the way (despite what some people spread with their paranoia on SR). It's not in your name, there's no financial transaction, and everything is circumstantial. It wouldn't even take a decent lawyer to give you a pretty good chance of getting off (especially if you're not busted with large amounts of drugs). Maybe use a fake ID if you're prepared to run when you see the lights flashing......