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Market => Product requests => Topic started by: cowpie34 on March 29, 2013, 03:52 pm
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If there was someone that could get decent cocaine down to $900 for 28g even if you have to buy 3-4 ounces at a time then a lot of us would be able to buy ounces and resell them at $1,100 or $1,200 or what have you. The numbers being at $1,100 for even 3 ounces, which thank you Pablospuros for having that, still isn't as awesome as people find with decent connections irl. Yes, it is better to get it off SR but A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BUY A LOT MORE if it could get down to $8,00 or $900 an ounce. So much more that I'm sure whoever could do it would be making the most on here in coke.
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$32 a gram at 60-75% and only buying an ounce at a time? You'd be bloody lucky.
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I figured it would entail buying more than one once at a time
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You'll still be lucky. The average price on here is around $110-120 if those are 60-75% purity I don't know but I doubt, no offense intended to the vendors but if it was I'd imagine they'd sell it at a premium to other vendors. EDIT: actually looking at the lab results of some of the cocaine lab tests results they are about 60-70% pure I'm quite impressed.
If you buy 10g the prices don't drop much mostly around $85 a gram. Likewise the best I can see for an ounce is about $82. Now if a vendor was going to sell to you at $32 that's $50 less profit per gram he is going to make. Do you really think he is going to chose making $1400 less per ounce on the hopes that people will buy 4 times as much? Not to mention the overheads of having to process a lot more orders, have enough supply to match the increased supply (If he was selling 1kg a Month for example he now needs 5-6kg a month) and that he will likely have a higher seizure rate due to the orders being larger and more of them.
Yeah it'd be nice but I doubt it will happen unless a South American gang member decides to start selling on here.
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If you buy 10g the prices don't drop much mostly around $85 a gram. Likewise the best I can see for an ounce is about $82. Now if a vendor was going to sell to you at $32 that's $50 less profit per gram he is going to make. Do you really think he is going to chose making $1400 less per ounce on the hopes that people will buy 4 times as much? Not to mention the overheads of having to process a lot more orders, have enough supply to match the increased supply (If he was selling 1kg a Month for example he now needs 5-6kg a month) and that he will likely have a higher seizure rate due to the orders being larger and more of them.
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And don't forget about the buyers that scam the vendor. That 32$ per gram will very quickly go up to the average price on Silkroad if his orders turn him a negative income as he has to deal with reships, refunds and scammers. Also, individuals will not buy more (You can only fit so much in your body in one day), dealers will.
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Well in real life you can get ounces for $1,000 from people that aren't buying more than 4-8 ounces a time themselves. How come on SR when you're buying from people with kilos it's $1250+? I'm assuming there IS price fixing
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Because this isn't the same market. Read Dread Pirate Roberts post about price fixing in the General chat section you cannot effectively price fix in an anonymous market because there is nothing to stop one vendor from breaking the price fixing agreement and stealing 90% of the market. Hell you could 'agree' to price fix then buy a 2nd vendor account and offer much better prices on there. That way you would get all the market share from loyal customers who want to buy your highly priced stuff due to you selling it AND get the market share of price sensitive buyers.
There isn't price fixing it's called greed. Why would a Vendor want to sell for such a low price when he can make just as much money at much higher prices. Just in the same way I could easily sell my Ketamine for $15 a G and would likely see a massive increase in sales it doesn't make sense for me to do so because the massive increase in sales volume and the decrease of profit would lead to it taking much way too many hours and likely mean I made a significant loss on any orders I had to refund or resend.
If you can get ounces at $1000 yourself, why don't you do that you won't find them for the price you want here sorry. Also buying bulk from SR suggests the buyer does not have a connection in person to buy from and so therefore the seller does not need to be a competitive as in real life.
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So go fourth cowpie and find us this hook up and then message your good buddy Gentso99 (thats gentso with a G, like the chicken) and Ill buy more then a few zips of your working mans white.....(more then 1 or 2...lol).
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He's not around anymore!
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im lucky if i can find a zip for anything less than 2k around here
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I'll be offering 1 ounce rocks for $950 + SR fees by the end of the month
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If you do and they are at least 60% you will make a killing!!! The thing that most vendors don't understand is that given what we can make on other things the current SR prices don't mean we buy less coke it means we buy none. When someone gets the prices down to where a dealer can make what he wants on buying a few ounces ($900 or less a piece so a dealer can make at least $700 selling it off in (expensive) eight-balls) then dealers will pick that back up again. What people can make on MDMA now without the headache of coke makes buying it to sell not worth it, and most of us don't buy unless to sell even if it means not getting any for ourselves. Also the current prices mean we have to charge people much more then they are used to or cut it or reconstitute it ourselves, which is another headache, so why bother? I can guarantee there are a lot of people on here that used to sell coke before the prices shot up, aka the drug war in Mexico, and would go back to it if they could numbers that were comparable to before.
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Also the current prices mean we have to charge people much more then they are used to or cut it or reconstitute it ourselves, which is another headache, so why bother?
I think you answered your own question. If SR vendors can sell their C locally for the same price as SR and not need to reship/stealth package/deal with scammers, why bother? SR is a convenience for buyers, not for vendors, and the buyers have to pay a premium for that convenience. If buyers aren't willing to pay that premium, no vendor is going to bother shipping their product halfway across the world and through multiple customs locations for the same profit (not including additional costs due to shipping/seizures/scammers). How often do you get to have your C anonymously lab tested before you buy it? Probably only on SR, and so you have to pay a premium for that service (as I have and plan to do again).
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If there was someone that could get decent cocaine down to $900 for 28g even if you have to buy 3-4 ounces at a time then a lot of us would be able to buy ounces and resell them at $1,100 or $1,200 or what have you. The numbers being at $1,100 for even 3 ounces, which thank you Pablospuros for having that, still isn't as awesome as people find with decent connections irl. Yes, it is better to get it off SR but A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BUY A LOT MORE if it could get down to $8,00 or $900 an ounce. So much more that I'm sure whoever could do it would be making the most on here in coke.
The U.S. Government continues to maintain the price of cocaine through their enforcement techniques. That is essential for protecting America's borders from foreign cartels and criminal markets. It is the price of security.
U.S. Government employees seize criminal elements, whether taking people and their belongings into custody. This is a Just War argument. Is it just to seize citizens at the border? While this, at face value, seems to scream NO, it is very complex.
The U.S. Government should (and does) have the right to seize ANYONE at the border that is suspicious. The question is whether the Drug War is effective to reduce and/or eliminate economic and social turmoil from the institution of drug trafficking--a human enterprise as old as humans... trafficking and protecting resources. It is this process that determines the price of cocaine. As long as this resource--cocaine, BTC, or anything that is challenged by human enterprises--is both limited and illegal, then its value will never inflate.
Cocaine is the price it is because the U.S. Government needs it to be outrageously expensive. Americans need cocaine to be illegal to pay for our border security. When our border patrol seizes cocaine and cocaine money--drug cartel money--then we are effectively paying for our border security.
When you think about it in terms of American security, it makes a lot more sense.
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In short, if you want to lower the price of cocaine, then a local source--whether natural or synthetic--is the only real answer.
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I'll be offering 1 ounce rocks for $950 + SR fees by the end of the month
What is the quality? I'm about to roll out my 85% or above coke and your offering it for about 1000$ which is what it will be with SR fee's.
If it is my same quality I will offer ounces at 800$+SR fee's of my amazing quality just to beat you out. Don't do that to me man, you will destroy my profit.
Then again I will be offering grams at around 50$ and an eight ball for 100ish.
Chaos
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I'll be offering 1 ounce rocks for $950 + SR fees by the end of the month
What is the quality? I'm about to roll out my 85% or above coke and your offering it for about 1000$ which is what it will be with SR fee's.
If it is my same quality I will offer ounces at 800$+SR fee's of my amazing quality just to beat you out. Don't do that to me man, you will destroy my profit.
Then again I will be offering grams at around 50$ and an eight ball for 100ish.
Chaos
And when you do, I will be a loyal customer. I have not purchased cocaine on SR due to the exorbitant prices.
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I'll be offering 1 ounce rocks for $950 + SR fees by the end of the month
What is the quality? I'm about to roll out my 85% or above coke and your offering it for about 1000$ which is what it will be with SR fee's.
If it is my same quality I will offer ounces at 800$+SR fee's of my amazing quality just to beat you out. Don't do that to me man, you will destroy my profit.
Then again I will be offering grams at around 50$ and an eight ball for 100ish.
Chaos
Didn't you just get busted for importing methylone..? And then you were importing "40 keys" from some vendor who sent you a few samples? The day you sell grams of anything above 30% purity I will change my gram prices to $10 a g. Deal?
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I'll be offering 1 ounce rocks for $950 + SR fees by the end of the month
What is the quality? I'm about to roll out my 85% or above coke and your offering it for about 1000$ which is what it will be with SR fee's.
If it is my same quality I will offer ounces at 800$+SR fee's of my amazing quality just to beat you out. Don't do that to me man, you will destroy my profit.
Then again I will be offering grams at around 50$ and an eight ball for 100ish.
Chaos
Didn't you just get busted for importing methylone..? And then you were importing "40 keys" from some vendor who sent you a few samples? The day you sell grams of anything above 30% purity I will change my gram prices to $10 a g. Deal?
Man I definitly did not just get busted for importing methylone. Iv never seen the chemical in person. I have been busted for many other things tho which I have gotten completly out of.
I hope you keep to your deal you just made. Your word is otherwise meaningless. When I post my 85% or above for 40-50 a gram and 100 an eight ball, I will expect you to start selling for 10$ a gram, if not then your word is nothing.
Everyone who see's this remeber, when my vendor account is finally set up and I am selling message my friend here, he will hook you up with amazing fishscale cocaine at 10$ a gram.
Chaos
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Will do ;D
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and when whatever substance you try to pass as 85% or above cola turns out to not be.....
what's your end of the deal CFP?
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I will put my social security number along with my name and address publicly on my profile and on the forums.
Also I will send all of the bitcoins I have to cocaexpress. I give my word.
Of coarse I'm still allowed to change my price by a few dollars, but my purity should stay at 85% lowest.
And of coarse be the cheapest on the road, it will be fun having someone who might be able to compete with my prices. It puts fun in the game, where I had thought I was just going to sweep out all the vendors with my prices and quality with no effort.
Good luck to you
Chaos
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Most likely you will have a head start as I am still setting up things.
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I'll be offering 1 ounce rocks for $950 + SR fees by the end of the month
What is the quality? I'm about to roll out my 85% or above coke and your offering it for about 1000$ which is what it will be with SR fee's.
If it is my same quality I will offer ounces at 800$+SR fee's of my amazing quality just to beat you out. Don't do that to me man, you will destroy my profit.
Then again I will be offering grams at around 50$ and an eight ball for 100ish.
Chaos
If I'm reading this right you're planning to import large amounts of cocaine to the USA from South America which is probably as high risk as this shit goes then you are going to either sell it breaking even on ounce amounts or make a loss?
Well originally I thought you were just clueless but now you just sound like a troll.
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I'll be offering 1 ounce rocks for $950 + SR fees by the end of the month
What is the quality? I'm about to roll out my 85% or above coke and your offering it for about 1000$ which is what it will be with SR fee's.
If it is my same quality I will offer ounces at 800$+SR fee's of my amazing quality just to beat you out. Don't do that to me man, you will destroy my profit.
Then again I will be offering grams at around 50$ and an eight ball for 100ish.
Chaos
If I'm reading this right you're planning to import large amounts of cocaine to the USA from South America which is probably as high risk as this shit goes then you are going to either sell it breaking even on ounce amounts or make a loss?
Well originally I thought you were just clueless but now you just sound like a troll.
I'm pretty sure I didnt get where I am today without knowing a thing or two about drug dealing.
And he was referring to a thread I had in the shipping section.
I'm confused how I would break even or make a loss. I should make twice what I put in quick and easy.
Well when I post my listings feel free to come under the bridge with me, it is where all of SR will go.
Chaos
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My bad I misread what you wrote, I took the part where you mentioned SR's fee to mean that if you sold at $1000 an ounce you would be breaking even if you included SR's fee so based on that the next line suggested you were going to sell at a $200 loss if you sold at $800 which is what I assumed you meant because of the "destroying my profit" part.
Then again your pricing structures don't seem to make sense either, $100-ish for 3.5g would work out at about $28.57 a gram while you above mention $1000 for an ounce? That would make an ounce more expensive at $35 a gram even at $800 an ounce your prices would be $28.57 a gram? Sure you would make marginally more money off the $800 ounce than the 1/8 listings due to how SR take their cut but none of it seems right to me.
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My bad I misread what you wrote, I took the part where you mentioned SR's fee to mean that if you sold at $1000 an ounce you would be breaking even if you included SR's fee so based on that the next line suggested you were going to sell at a $200 loss if you sold at $800 which is what I assumed you meant because of the "destroying my profit" part.
Then again your pricing structures don't seem to make sense either, $100-ish for 3.5g would work out at about $28.57 a gram while you above mention $1000 for an ounce? That would make an ounce more expensive at $35 a gram even at $800 an ounce your prices would be $28.57 a gram? Sure you would make marginally more money off the $800 ounce than the 1/8 listings due to how SR take their cut but none of it seems right to me.
The price I said for my gram and eighth was correct, the price for an ounce was not. If someone wants to buy an ounce they can get eight eights for 800$. Because each eighth is 100
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Its an all out SR cocaine war :)
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I'm glad if I had something to do with the good news about coke on SR getting out. I doubt anyone is taking my advice and formulating there prices because of it but if someone did - or as the two vendors here will see - it will be worth it. Rustbucket - I agree it may not make sense because of the escrow to ship across countries borders for those prices but there are a lot of kilos in the U.S. and every other country and I think it is better for the vendors - if I was a vendor/had a kilo - I would way rather sell it on the SR then in my own city. Coke dealers are actively sought out and there is a lot more ratting on and etc. in that game. Selling it on the SR would be like a dream!! I'm sure there would be no shortage of customers in whichever country you happened to be in
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The safest and most profitable method for lowering the price of cocaine is to invest in coca seeds, a greenhouse, some basic chemicals, and follow the cannabis methodology. Domestication is the answer to this problem. The drug primarily comes from Central and South America. It usually has to cross more than one border, and it funds terrorism in Colombia: FARC.
Help stop violence by domesticating all our drugs!
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The safest and most profitable method for lowering the price of cocaine is to invest in coca seeds, a greenhouse, some basic chemicals, and follow the cannabis methodology. Domestication is the answer to this problem. The drug primarily comes from Central and South America. It usually has to cross more than one border, and it funds terrorism in Colombia: FARC.
Help stop violence by domesticating all our drugs!
Yep, good idea, it can't turn worse than the current products on SR.
http://www.vice.com/read/i-learned-how-to-make-blow-in-colombia
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If there was someone that could get decent cocaine down to $900 for 28g even if you have to buy 3-4 ounces at a time then a lot of us would be able to buy ounces and resell them at $1,100 or $1,200 or what have you. The numbers being at $1,100 for even 3 ounces, which thank you Pablospuros for having that, still isn't as awesome as people find with decent connections irl. Yes, it is better to get it off SR but A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BUY A LOT MORE if it could get down to $8,00 or $900 an ounce. So much more that I'm sure whoever could do it would be making the most on here in coke.
Those prices are dream prices! Here in Australia, buying one ounce off a large-scale dealer will cost $2,800+. $100 / gram for bulk buying. On the street, grams which have been heavily cut will sell for $300+.
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The safest and most profitable method for lowering the price of cocaine is to invest in coca seeds, a greenhouse, some basic chemicals, and follow the cannabis methodology. Domestication is the answer to this problem. The drug primarily comes from Central and South America. It usually has to cross more than one border, and it funds terrorism in Colombia: FARC.
Help stop violence by domesticating all our drugs!
Yep, good idea, it can't turn worse than the current products on SR.
http://www.vice.com/read/i-learned-how-to-make-blow-in-colombia
Bump. And coca is a fucking weed!
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You have to really want cocaine to buy it and make less profits off of it then you would have if you just let your coins appreciate!!
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You have to really want cocaine to buy it and make less profits off of it then you would have if you just let your coins appreciate!!
Ah, but profits are just silly numbers that only have meaning if you believe in the economy... Intelligent folk use the money they have before it is lost.... because BTC depends on human behavior, so profits are not always guaranteed... but material things are!
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I think you mean - Intelligent people use the money they have because they know it will motivate them to make more money, which they know they can always figure out a new way to do. Speaking of which maybe we should start a SR fundraiser to build a stealth yellow submarine to get cocaine prices back.
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I think you mean - Intelligent people use the money they have because they know it will motivate them to make more money, which they know they can always figure out a new way to do. Speaking of which maybe we should start a SR fundraiser to build a stealth yellow submarine to get cocaine prices back.
Yes, I got off course. Yes, indeed. A nautilus will do nicely for our leagues under the sea.