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Title: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: troubled_girl on March 16, 2012, 01:16 pm
Hi

Im writing this, i shit you not, moments after 4 cops with guns knocked on my door with a warrant and tore my place to shreds! yep, 930 friday night! i thought I was extremely lucky that without any prior history, they just made me attend a drug program. I was on the borderline with amounts, they said.

I was getting quite complacent and ordering regularly. almost weekly from numerous countries.


I've only ever had 3 seizures. 1 from US - .4g of C around xmas from a normally outstanding vendor.

2 from holland, and i think this is what set them off, MDMA from the netherlands from 1 vendor.

1 more other from NL made it thru before i stopped ordering from there. 3 in all from NL. no other high risk countries


a month or so passed...



In 1 week from SR w/e sale, i had 5 items from 3 different countries from 5 different vendors, all under different names to my address.

inclusive of the 1 that made it thru from holland.

In order to distinguish vendors and reduce risk of seizures, I ordered things all under different names, thinking im smart



beware. If u were like and thought it couldnt happen to you, well it sure as hell can.

dont become complacent like me and learn your lesson.

surprisingly, there was no police dog. but they were extremely thorough.... they didnt need a dog. they opened every nook and cranny.... they clearly knew i had something.

all i had left thank god was just under 2g's MDMA, 4 acid trips, < .2 ket & 1 viagra...

i shat myself as i saw any future prospect of a decent job, having a possible crim record and not being able to travel freely to countries etc etc hang in the balance before my very eyes.....




Who know what tipped them off?

was it the seizures from NL? was it the ever 5 different names to the same address? was it a dispute with an asshole vendor who alerted the authorities cos of minor disputes? Was it my neighbors seeing me act erratically and dob me in?

who knows..... but be vigilant. be careful. do whatever it takes that u can think of and dont let ur guard down.

honestly, when they rocked up i thought they were kids trick or treating! its not frikkin halloween.

but they knew. so watch your back. cos here's me thinking i should be stockpiling just in case something happens to SR! I would dread to think what would've happened....

Cos it can happen to you. & if you are not careful, or if you do it long enough, it well may!....

not that i would wish it upon anyone
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: Scot Walker on March 16, 2012, 02:39 pm
IMHO, it is very foolish to use a fake name when sending stuff to your house. Especially multiple fake names! I'm not saying that's what did you in, but it's not something I would recommend doing. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the way I feel about it.
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: BuddyRoyale on March 16, 2012, 02:49 pm
Is this a joke?  You dont consider 3 interceptions of hard drugs was 3 to many to still be ordering to that address? 
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: cache on March 16, 2012, 02:52 pm
Hmmmm.....maybe read the security threads a bit more my friend. ONE seizure of drugs would put me off using that address again, let alone three.

Let's hope that you learn a lesson from this and wise up a bit before you start trafficking drugs again (because that is what we are doing on here).
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: goochihuh on March 16, 2012, 03:00 pm
No court case?
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: diskoking23 on March 16, 2012, 03:09 pm
Were you notified by Aussie customs that they had made seizures... This should have rang loud alarm bells!!
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: JimPooley on March 16, 2012, 03:42 pm
Were you notified by Aussie customs that they had made seizures... This should have rang loud alarm bells!!

I was thinking exactly this, how did you know they were siezed at the border? If you received 1 love letter from customs, and you still ordered to that address? Hmm...

Aside; curiosity compells me to ask, if you're a girl as your name says... why were you stockpiling V? I think either my knowledge of what sildenafil does is lacking or you're possibly, actually troubled!
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: TheNewDude on March 16, 2012, 04:48 pm
So the police searched your home, then told you to go to drug treatment?

Didn't get charged or sent to court? Hmmmmm.

 :-\

Bullshit.

Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: sourman on March 16, 2012, 08:27 pm
Were you notified by Aussie customs that they had made seizures... This should have rang loud alarm bells!!

I was thinking exactly this, how did you know they were siezed at the border? If you received 1 love letter from customs, and you still ordered to that address? Hmm...

Aside; curiosity compells me to ask, if you're a girl as your name says... why were you stockpiling V? I think either my knowledge of what sildenafil does is lacking or you're possibly, actually troubled!

This made me LOL. Girls do order Viagra, but that, combined with the fact that she ordered hard drugs to one of the most smuggling-unfriendly countries in the world from nations equally infamous for sending the very contraband they look for in Australia, and then kept doing it after her packages were seized numerous times, is more than a little suspicious. Even if this story is completely true, it does not exemplify the "typical SR experience" and should only make you nervous if you live in Australia and order shit over and over again despite it getting seized and your address obviously being flagged.

I don't know about the laws over there, but if AUS is so keen on cracking down on drugs in the mail, why do they let people off so easily? If this really happened exactly as you wrote it, then you're a very lucky troubled girl.
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: happyroller1234 on March 16, 2012, 10:07 pm
Maybe it was the multiple fake names to the same address.  I cannot fathom how ANYONE could possibly think that was a good idea.
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: mdmafx on March 16, 2012, 10:50 pm
Sounds like bullshit to me to. Really, If the police searched your home and found contraband  for whatever reason you would have been charged or cautioned if it was a small amount. They don't tell you go to drug rehab, only a court might impose this on you.

To all these people that say an address gets 'flagged' in reality if customs was to scan every address of every letter coming into the country and then cross mach it against a database to see if its 'flagged' mail would take months to get in. If you watch border security this definitely is not happening in our mail centers. Yeah theymay pull some mail aside using profiling techniques, some gets xrayed and some have the dogs go over it, but that would be the extent of it.
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: novocaine on March 17, 2012, 12:06 am
its an epidemic!!
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: kmfkewm on March 17, 2012, 12:18 am
So the police searched your home, then told you to go to drug treatment?

Didn't get charged or sent to court? Hmmmmm.

 :-\

Bullshit.

Agreed. I know people in Australia who have been raided and ended up going to court ordered treatment and paying fines etc, but they of course had to go to court and be sentenced first. Moral of the story is that this story could indeed happen and has happened to other people, but probably didn't happen to the OP cuz that isn't how the injustice system works.
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: novocaine on March 17, 2012, 12:34 am
yeah sorry im not paying it either.
You would definitely front court over those amounts + fines even for a first time offense.
unless you flipped :o

edit- "trafficable" quantities of MDMA range from 0.5 - 3g depending on the state. (unless you are tasmanian and anything under 25g is personal use :o)
You more than likely had to prove it was for your personal use.

Dont quote me ;)
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: JimPooley on March 17, 2012, 12:35 am
its an epidemic!!

FUCK Novo, pleeease tell me you're working on a cure/vaccine?  ???
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: novocaine on March 17, 2012, 12:55 am
yeah... everyone get hoffa to order for them ;)
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: dr octagon on March 17, 2012, 01:00 am
Ok, here we go again.  Thanks for letting us know if you are being genuine, but it's really hard to believe...


What EXACTLY where you charged with?  OR Where you only cautioned?

When did it happen? 

How long until you faced the courts?

What court did you attend (as in what level not what location?)

Magistrate? Drug diversion court etc?

What did they convict you of?

What did they sentence you to?

Suspended sentence?  Spent conviction?

It all sounds a little too quick to me.  Are you trying to say you were cautioned?  That is the only way you could avoid court.

If you were cautioned, it hardly acts as massive deterrent to everyone else. Also, taking up the resources of a warrant, four cops and being found with an amount drugs that could lead to a trafficking or at least sell and supply charge is rarely likely to result in no charge.

Also, they would have jumped on the opportunity to sick the media on to you to scare the shit out of everyone.
 
It's a real public service letting people know when things go bad for future reference, but unless you post enough info to sound credible it just creates paranoia and speculation.
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: JimPooley on March 17, 2012, 01:32 am
Ok, here we go again.  Thanks for letting us know if you are being genuine, but it's really hard to believe...


What EXACTLY where you charged with?  OR Where you only cautioned?

When did it happen? 

How long until you faced the courts?

What court did you attend (as in what level not what location?)

Magistrate? Drug diversion court etc?

What did they convict you of?

What did they sentence you to?

Suspended sentence?  Spent conviction?

It all sounds a little too quick to me.  Are you trying to say you were cautioned?  That is the only way you could avoid court.

If you were cautioned, it hardly acts as massive deterrent to everyone else. Also, taking up the resources of a warrant, four cops and being found with an amount drugs that could lead to a trafficking or at least sell and supply charge is rarely likely to result in no charge.

Also, they would have jumped on the opportunity to sick the media on to you to scare the shit out of everyone.
 
It's a real public service letting people know when things go bad for future reference, but unless you post enough info to sound credible it just creates paranoia and speculation.
+ a squillion

Soooo much pertinent information is just not present, and there's been no reiteration of requestion information...

UNTIL it appears, I'm calling shenannigans on Viagra_Girl!!!
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: j0blo on March 17, 2012, 02:11 am
Wow.  3 seizures and you continued to order more?

Dumb, dumb, dumb.  You're either trolling, or you're just retarded.
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: Mr Molly on March 17, 2012, 02:50 am
Even if it is true and people are starting to get worried, there are ways you can get around ordering to your HOME address. I think people need to start thinking outside the box. I never order to my own address and I never use my real name, I've received 8+ order from countries including India, Thailand and EU countries. In the case customs do intercept my package, they have no way of tracing it back to my house. If you are ordering to your home address, I'd look up your states trafficking laws and always order under the stated amount. Of course if your only doing a few orders then maybe it's worth the risk but if your gonna order regularly, be safe and be smart.
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: hoffa on March 17, 2012, 02:59 am
yeah... everyone get hoffa to order for them ;)

 ;D

Are people sooo deprived of attention or is their life so boring they need to invent adventures in their life? Just in case you were wondering op, I think YOU are full of SHIT!


Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: Chopperos on March 17, 2012, 06:16 am
I think we should ask for a edited version of the Search warrant on these cases to provide authenticty.

Obviously your can obscure the address.

Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: hoffa on March 17, 2012, 07:24 am
I think we should ask for a edited version of the Search warrant on these cases to provide authenticty.

Obviously your can obscure the address.


Nice Chop, very leveled and thought through response!  ;)
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: FiveSeven on March 17, 2012, 12:33 pm
It was definitely the names. This is one of the first things they will check against the database. Bad move.
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: jesse on March 17, 2012, 04:57 pm
Holland, England Belgium and no other country has anything to do with that. Do you know how much/many is send specially with E-bay and other internet purchases a day????. I am sure your address was already under suspicion -maybe- because of all the fake names (read people) living there.
To stay under the radar you have to be as normal as possible. Just order (ask the seller) movie or music CD's.
Make sure its labelled with a good PRINTED label (not something scribbled on the envelop) and always enough postage, better one to many then short (thats how I do it anyway)
If anyone has a better idea....I'm always open for improvement ;)
Cheers,
J
 
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: waytoomany on March 18, 2012, 02:49 am
ignore this thread,

just a AUSSIE LEO trying to use bullshit scare tactics... aint scared
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: troubled_girl on March 18, 2012, 04:52 am
Wow

seems like the majority of the ppl on here are retarded, paranoid fuckheads!

FOr those who accept my account as treu. thank you. sadly, seems like there are very few smart ppl left on here.

Its called a drug diversion thing for ppl with small amounts. i had under the cordeline amounts and i give a very little fuck about retards who are ignorant of other states laws and practices.

I put this on here, to help the community learn from my mistakes, and to see if it'd happened to anyone else.

My aim was to find out the HOW or WHY I'd been busted, so we could strengthen our strategies, share knowledge, and beat them at their game.

Im beyond preplexed and disgusted by all the pot shots taken at me for trying to help u FUCKTARDS!
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: troubled_girl on March 18, 2012, 05:06 am
continuing....

@ the tards: Go to hell and die for all I care!

At the cool folk, thank you for exercising some sense and sensibility.

Yes, I did get complacent and foolhardy. But I think you'll find that there are countless ppl on here, after seizure, who have ordered to the same address without any dramas.

No letters form customs at any stage. Just 4 plain clothed cops, local, who knocked on my door, told me i had no civil rights what so ever and they were going to do whatever they wanted (with force) and i could do all my lawyerey shit after!

If they were trying to bust me for dealing, etc or going thru customs, why didnt they try and get me with the maximum amount I couldve had in my possession?

hmmmm..... interesting..... the "shock & awe" of the frin night is wearing off and im trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together....

HOW and WHY? why now, not earlier etc etc....

but Im not sure Im even going to bother wasting my time seeing as the attitude as some of the ppl on here

Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: mdmafx on March 18, 2012, 07:33 am
If they turned up in plain clothes, did they even produce some kind of warrant to search your house? or at least show some ID that checked out...
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: troubled_girl on March 18, 2012, 08:45 am
Yes, presented Warrant, much to my horror.

I tired stalling the cunts every which way, to no avail

I thought that as well, but I do recall someone saying maaaaaaaaaaany moons ago on forums that sometimes the allow items through and a while, so they can build a solid case against you.

It could well have been a local calling, but then, y wouldnt plain clothes cops pop round when u r high and bust u acting erratically?  as I have on occasion, but nothing that would draw attention to me. just random in my own backyard, which is secure view wise etc.

they were from local Drug Tactical.

no badges. 2 x stock standard commodors.

Im sure i couldve handled it better so much in hindsight, but its quite intimidating when u have 4 cops on a fri night catchin u off guard.
especially if you havent had much to do with the law...

Paranoid about own personal security = excellent.

paranoid about posting with this detail.... and being hostile about it = retarded = FU!
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: hoffa on March 18, 2012, 09:02 am
Fucktards hmmmmm a little bit personal, and really defensive!

Well let's for a second, give you the benifit of the doubt. Can you answer three questions, and no Google wont help you!.

What is the colour of the warrant they gave you?

How many times did you need to sign it?

What was issued to you when they came to the conclusion it will be a drug diversion situation?

Pretty straight forward questions, and you should have no problem knowing these answers. I will publicly apologise if you answer correctly.

How do I know, well I have "fractured" a few laws in my time.  ;)
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: hoffa on March 18, 2012, 09:12 am
well well, hoffa you lil baddass ;)

You taught me everything I know Shiz, but keep it on the down low, I don't want the community to think I am a scum bag junkie  :P
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: troubled_girl on March 18, 2012, 09:43 am
@ hoffa

I've noticed you've spoken disrespectfully to a few ppl on the forums, just cos their opinion did not reflect what u perceive of reality.

remember aus is a big country and ive noticed they (the law) treat it as though it's territories are a different country, with differing rules and procedures.

Warrant was a A5 size piece of paper folded up

no need to sign anything. just bend over and receive!

issued a DD ref notice

and field receipt of what they took & quantity.

Im not qoing to release any more details than Im comfortable with, as I obviously dont want to give anything away that may compromise my locality.

choose to believe im some fuckhead cop who couldnt think of anything better to do with my time, or someone who'se experience is genuine.

Also, if i was a cop, wouldnt it make more sense that there be 50 reports of seizures, to convince or scare u into believing u'r all going to get caught and scare u?

think about it ppl. seriously?
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: EnterTheMatrix on March 18, 2012, 10:08 am
yeah sorry im not paying it either.
You would definitely front court over those amounts + fines even for a first time offense.
unless you flipped :o

edit- "trafficable" quantities of MDMA range from 0.5 - 3g depending on the state. (unless you are tasmanian and anything under 25g is personal use :o)
You more than likely had to prove it was for your personal use.

Dont quote me ;)

Yeh, i'm not sure on this one either.

Normally for those amounts a diversion program would not be offered by the Police Officers onsite. Don't get me wrong, treatment/diversion offers do happen for small personal amounts, example would be a raver busted at a dance party with 2 or 3 XTC pills in his possession.

On the other hand I don't know why a troll would bother to waste their time doing this, but this is the internet!

Stay cool people,

Matrix  8)
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: EnterTheMatrix on March 18, 2012, 10:24 am
BTW the Viagra is believable because the poster had revelaed that she is in fact a 60kg HE in a previous post.

Matrix  8)
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: JimPooley on March 18, 2012, 10:39 am
@ hoffa

I've noticed you've spoken disrespectfully to a few ppl on the forums, just cos their opinion did not reflect what u perceive of reality.

remember aus is a big country and ive noticed they (the law) treat it as though it's territories are a different country, with differing rules and procedures.

Warrant was a A5 size piece of paper folded up

no need to sign anything. just bend over and receive!

issued a DD ref notice

and field receipt of what they took & quantity.

Im not qoing to release any more details than Im comfortable with, as I obviously dont want to give anything away that may compromise my locality.

choose to believe im some fuckhead cop who couldnt think of anything better to do with my time, or someone who'se experience is genuine.

Also, if i was a cop, wouldnt it make more sense that there be 50 reports of seizures, to convince or scare u into believing u'r all going to get caught and scare u?

think about it ppl. seriously?

You made your initial post, which was severely lacking in pertinent, while not comprimising, information. People asked you to clarify and in the time it has taken you to respond, more and more comments we're made. If you're trying to be informative, the forum appreciates that, but please understand, the anonymity afforded to members lends itself to having, as you so eloquently phrased, "fucktards" spreading nonsense. So don't get sand in your privates when people ask for what you didn't, but probably should have provided.

I admit I called "shenannigans", however after your clarification, I'm prepared to retract that statement :-X. While not altogether convincing, it now seems much more plausible. :-\

Don't disregard what sages like Hoff (CHAV!!!) and Shits have to say, their advice is wise :D. Clearly, counter to what the voice inside your head tells you, you DO NOT know better. IN FACT, the evidence submitted BY YOURSELF supports the the contrary.

Best of luck with your future endeavours!
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: hoffa on March 18, 2012, 11:32 am
Well I can now say with some degree of confidence, (this is to say you are full of shit, if you didn't realise where this was going) that you in fact have consumed way too many drugs.

Can you also ellaborate on who I disrespected and om what topic? As again given your track record you are possibly pulling this out of your backside.

I have a firm grip on reality  and my perception is based on reality. Do you understand the difference?

And given I was online when you first broke this massive story, and then went on to mention time, pretty sure we are in the same state!

Look forward to your response.

A5? I asked for colour but since you offered your paper size, you are lying! 

No signature, you lie!

DD ref notice? What does the DD stand for? LoL called out!
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: JimPooley on March 18, 2012, 12:00 pm


A5? I asked for colour but since you offered your paper size, you are lying! 

No signature, you lie!

DD ref notice? What does the DD stand for? LoL called out!

Hmmm... You do indeed make a persuasive argument... Rebuttal Viagra_Girl?
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: dr octagon on March 18, 2012, 01:13 pm
@ hoffa

I've noticed you've spoken disrespectfully to a few ppl on the forums, just cos their opinion did not reflect what u perceive of reality.

remember aus is a big country and ive noticed they (the law) treat it as though it's territories are a different country, with differing rules and procedures.

Warrant was a A5 size piece of paper folded up

no need to sign anything. just bend over and receive!

issued a DD ref notice

and field receipt of what they took & quantity.

Im not qoing to release any more details than Im comfortable with, as I obviously dont want to give anything away that may compromise my locality.

choose to believe im some fuckhead cop who couldnt think of anything better to do with my time, or someone who'se experience is genuine.

Also, if i was a cop, wouldnt it make more sense that there be 50 reports of seizures, to convince or scare u into believing u'r all going to get caught and scare u?

think about it ppl. seriously?

TG you're posts on SR have mostly been shit stirring from the get go so a little bit hypocritical there. True or not, no one on here likes to hear of someone get in trouble for recreational drugs.

One thing is for sure, you haven't provided us with one scrap of evidence that this raid had anything to do with SR.  No way are Customs/AFP letting multiple packages go through to you so that the local plod can execute search warrants, find more than 20 standard doses of MDMA (has to be at least sell & supply charge) and then write you a ticket and move on. It does not make sense. 

Inter-department cooperation, a warrant, four cops at 9:30pm on a Friday night for a caution/diversion is a massive waste of resources - especially with no media release and therefore no deterrent.

Personally, I don't think that Customs/AFP are that worried about SR and I don't think they were onto you despite your questionable methods.

More likely you pissed someone off  IRL or sold some gear that you ordered and it somehow the cops got word. Still hard to believe unless you have been dealing  for awhile.

As has been said though, if you are too worried to post enough info to sound credible and to actually educate others then it is best for everyone including yourself if you don't post until you can.
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: hoffa on March 18, 2012, 01:21 pm
@ hoffa

I've noticed you've spoken disrespectfully to a few ppl on the forums, just cos their opinion did not reflect what u perceive of reality.


TG you're posts on SR have mostly been shit stirring from the get go so a little bit hypocritical there. True or not, no one on here likes to hear of someone get in trouble for recreational drugs.



Hang on a second Dr, are you saying I am not being disrespectful? Because honestly, hand on heart I go out of my way to put people down! Dont you dare say I am anything but a wanker!  ;)

Seriously good points! And just off the topic, are you really a Dr as I have this reoccurring urge to snort cocaine, is this normal or is the coke on SR so dam norish? ;D
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: dr octagon on March 18, 2012, 01:38 pm
I'm an Octagonecologist .... ;)



Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: novocaine on March 18, 2012, 10:02 pm
in TG's defense hoffa, you did call me a cunt a few times..cunt ;)

Doc!! is this you?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Octopus

or

Jennifer Mather
Faculty
Psychology Department
Office: C888 (University Hall)
Phone: (403) xxxxxx
Email: xxxxx@uleth.ca
Degrees
B.A. (Biology); M.Sc. (Biology); Ph.D. (Psychology)
Expertise
Behaviour of cephalopod molluscs (octopuses and squid), Schizophrenia, Women in science, Excellence in University teaching
Research Areas
Squid skin patterns and displays, Octopus cognition, Attitudes to invertebrates
Previous Research Areas
Behaviour and cognitive abililties of cephalopod molluscs

 8)
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: Dipset420 on March 18, 2012, 11:10 pm
Well I don't know how things work down under but in the states the pigs would of never been able to get a warrant with just the info the op stated, at least not in my state anyway.  If you have ever watched the show D.E.A. here in nazi land you would know when they intercept a package they send one of their gestapo agents in fedex or some other delivery disguise.  They then ask you to sign for it (this is why you never sign for a package!!!!!!!!!!!!)  Then when you sign your fucked!  Anybody can send anybody mail, hell I could send something to my neighbor that works and go get it after the mail man left, that doesn't make him the criminal, and here that's how it works.  Never sign and never use fake names especially 5 lol maybe just spell both your first and last name wrong that is a little deniability and never ever SIGN!!!!
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: hoffa on March 19, 2012, 12:11 am
NC and Shizle

STOP thread raping you little pricks! It is clear TG has got troubles (as her name indicates) so fuck off you poofter trolls >:(
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: JimPooley on March 19, 2012, 01:28 am
NC and Shizle

STOP thread raping you little pricks! It is clear TG has got troubles (as her name indicates) so fuck off you poofter trolls >:(


Where is the PISSING MYSELF emoticon...
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: Gary Oak on March 19, 2012, 01:35 am
Not to be harsh, but you did seem to be a bit careless. :( Either way, this should serve as a good warning to the rest of us so you have my thanks for that.
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: wannabud on March 19, 2012, 07:47 am
Were you notified by Aussie customs that they had made seizures... This should have rang loud alarm bells!!

I was thinking exactly this, how did you know they were siezed at the border? If you received 1 love letter from customs, and you still ordered to that address? Hmm...

Aside; curiosity compells me to ask, if you're a girl as your name says... why were you stockpiling V? I think either my knowledge of what sildenafil does is lacking or you're possibly, actually troubled!

This made me LOL. Girls do order Viagra.
I stop to read here.
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: yellow on March 19, 2012, 10:57 am
So you got busted with a relatively small amount of drugs which Customs let through and didn't watch and then at some time later sent 4 cops around with no dog to find that relatively small amount of drugs.

The drugs you could have done anything with in the meantime because they weren't watching you?

And you can't see why some are suspicious?

Customs don't let stuff through without controlling it. For a start they'll swap the gear for fake stuff. Then they'll bust you when you get it. And I'll admit, but I'm assuming its for larger quantities.

So, if you indeed get done, perhaps someone at the post reported the address after 3 got stopped? Given you used lots of names, what name/s were on the warrant?

4 cops, Friday night and you get a diversion? I know people at festivals with less who haven't been so lucky.  Just doesn't add up even a little for me. But not sure why you'd troll here of all places?

Don't get me wrong, paranoid is good. Thinking could happen to anyone anytime is good. Ask any cop (I have) and they can spend months watching someone. It's the stupid, sloppy things that bust them. Or random luck.
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: mdmafx on March 20, 2012, 07:36 am
I was skeptical of the OP until I received a letter from a respected overseas vendor (not going to mention any names or packaging techniques so don't ask). It had orange tape around it saying it had been opened fro inspection...

Leaflet inside said...
Open for inspection - international mail

This mail has been opened by Australia Post for inspection by AQIS. The AQIS screening process, which uses detector dogs and x-ray machines detected there may be an item of quarantine concern in you mail.. blah balah blah..
No items have been removed by AQIS...

Fuck me they missed it, still got the goods but got one fucking huge scare at the same time..

Bottom line 99% of vendors with less stealthy packaging would have been picked up for sure... Even opened the parcel so vacuum sealing alone would have been picked up...

Use a po box or adress that isn't your own or be really carefull who you order from

MD

Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: PlutoPete on March 20, 2012, 09:48 am
Well I don't know how things work down under but in the states the pigs would of never been able to get a warrant with just the info the op stated, at least not in my state anyway.  If you have ever watched the show D.E.A. here in nazi land you would know when they intercept a package they send one of their gestapo agents in fedex or some other delivery disguise.  They then ask you to sign for it (this is why you never sign for a package!!!!!!!!!!!!)  Then when you sign your fucked!  Anybody can send anybody mail, hell I could send something to my neighbor that works and go get it after the mail man left, that doesn't make him the criminal, and here that's how it works.  Never sign and never use fake names especially 5 lol maybe just spell both your first and last name wrong that is a little deniability and never ever SIGN!!!!
Is it really wrong to sign for packages?
I get a lot of business packages and sign for every one with my signature and "unexamined"
Signing for a package doesn't show that you know it's contents or who it's from.
Surely it's much dodgier using false names etc.
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: cache on March 20, 2012, 09:59 am
Simple is good.

Fake names, PO boxes, vacant properties etc etc just add too much complexity and increase the possibility of a fuck up. And when that fuck up comes your deniability is out the window if you have been doing any of the above.

Likewise signing for things. If the postie comes with a package in my name I sign for it, take it in and open it. Even if you are not expecting something you would legitimately want to know what you have been sent, I do not think it is logical that you would just write RTS on it and leave it out. Surely that would be a reasonable defence?
Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: fearlessfreap on March 21, 2012, 05:35 am
its an epidemic!!

FUCK Novo, pleeease tell me you're working on a cure/vaccine?  ???

Maybe this exercise can help.

In response to the damage caused by drug abuse various laws were enacted making many drugs illegal.  These laws are enforced upon the people caught with the illegal drugs. Below are a list of harms that can befall people as a consequence of their decisions in life.  While there are many factors than can cause such harm we have only two for this exercise: A) Using drugs and B) Being Imprisoned

For each harmful consequence state whether A) using drugs or B) being imprisoned is most likely to be the bigger cause.

0) Losing your family (children, spouse, etc)
1) Losing your job
2) Losing the ability to be hired for many jobs
3) Losing your home
4) Losing your ability to interact or integrate with society
5) Losing your money
6) Losing your dignity & self worth
7) Surrounding yourself with violent criminals such as rapists and murders
8) Being forced into slave labor
9) Being raped
10) Being murdered
11) Stripped of your "inalienable" rights such as gun ownership or suffrage
12) Cause your closest friends and family great emotional distress
13) Isolate you from the rest of the world

Title: Re: FELLOW AUSSIES, I JUST GOT BUSTED
Post by: fearlessfreap on March 21, 2012, 06:22 am
Sounds like bullshit to me to. Really, If the police searched your home and found contraband  for whatever reason you would have been charged or cautioned if it was a small amount. They don't tell you go to drug rehab, only a court might impose this on you.

Was that even said? If so I missed it. I have heard some people incorrectly think a court ordered treatment & education regiment was not a conviction if there was no jail or prison sentence.

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To all these people that say an address gets 'flagged' in reality if customs was to scan every address of every letter coming into the country and then cross mach it against a database to see if its 'flagged' mail would take months to get in. If you watch border security this definitely is not happening in our mail centers. Yeah theymay pull some mail aside using profiling techniques, some gets xrayed and some have the dogs go over it, but that would be the extent of it.

The ability to automate a flash scan of multiple types (front optical, rear optical, xray, infrared, spectroscopy, ionization, chemical...) on each individual parcel within a sorting machine is technologically evolved.  Many years ago they developed optical scanners capable of keeping up with the vast speeds of automated mail sorters that were attached to databases.

I'm not trying to scare anyone but being informed is required to keep the dance going.

https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=guide+for+the+selection+of+drug+detectors+for+law+enforcement&btnG=

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The core of this document is made up of four chapters on four major types of drug detection:
trace detection technologies (mechanical “sniffers”), canine detection, bulk detection
technologies (e.g., x-ray and other imaging techniques), and manual search techniques. In the
discussion of trace and bulk detection technologies, general background information is given to
define terms and discuss problems. For individual technology-based detection techniques, there
is, in most cases, a brief technical discussion of how the technique works.

2.2 Ion Mobility Spectrometry (IMS)

Ion mobility spectrometry (IMS) is one of the most widely used techniques for the trace
detection of illicit drugs and other contraband materials. The principle of operation of an ion
mobility spectrometer (also called an IMS) is shown in figure 2.

2.3 Field Ion Spectrometry (FIS)

Field ion spectrometry (FIS) is a relatively new trace detection technology (less than 10 years
old) that is related to ion mobility spectrometry. It incorporates a unique ion filter using dual
transverse fields that allow interferences to be eliminated electronically without the use of GC
columns, membranes, or other physical separation methods. FIS is similar to IMS in that both
involve separating and quantifying ions that are carried in a gas at atmospheric pressure.
Furthermore, both systems use soft ionization methods that yield spectra where the species of
interest produce the main features, that is, under the proper conditions there is little
decomposition of the analyte.

2.4 Surface Acoustic Wave (SAW) Sensors

Surface acoustic wave (SAW) sensors are usually coupled with a front-end GC. The principal
component of a SAW sensor is a piezoelectric crystal that resonates at a specific, measurable
frequency. When molecules condense on the surface of this crystal, the resonant frequency shifts
in proportion to the mass of material condensed. The frequency shift also depends upon the
properties of the material being deposited, the surface temperature, and the chemical nature of
the crystal surface.

2.5 Mass Spectrometry
2.6 Raman Spectroscopy
2.7 Mistral Security Drug Detection and Field Identification Kit
2.8 Securetec Drugwipes
2.9 Gas Chromatography/Surface Ionization Detection

4. BULK DETECTION TECHNOLOGIES

Of course there are budgetary, bureaucrat, and other factors that determine deployment or lack thereof.  While I'm not familiar with law enforcement equipment I've seen some of the technology in an industrial application and these techs have developed to incredible effectiveness and efficiency, assuming you didn't opt for the budget models ;)