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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: Twonk on February 18, 2013, 11:35 pm

Title: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: Twonk on February 18, 2013, 11:35 pm
Hey,

As title, just been directed to SR by someone from 'Topix' where I was using MOM, but got scammed. So, today I read up on BTC etc and created a wallet on 'blockchain.info' which I then deposited some cash into from my bank account using an online transaction to get BTC. I then sent the BTC to SR to make a small purchase. Now I'm reading loads of stuff about anonymous BTC transactions etc and wonder if I did a dumb thing?

Cheers
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: wingeddoomua on February 19, 2013, 07:50 am
Everything is ok, see https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Anonymity
No one could prove that money from your bank account were BOTH:
1) sent to your SR wallet
2) spent for illegal stuff
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: ArizonaBakelite on February 19, 2013, 08:06 am
Ya chief you're totally good.  I was paranoid at first but it's totally anonymous.

Just make sure you choose the right vendor for your first vendor to make sure you have a positive experience!

Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: Twonk on February 19, 2013, 09:25 pm
Phew! Thanks dudes. I went with Mr Cronk, as he seems to have positive reviews. Not quite next day though, as I ordered Monday and it's still being processed. Boohoo.
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: United Distributions on February 19, 2013, 09:37 pm
Just take it slowly man, honestly, take it slow and in no time it'll be second nature! Good luck on SR and hopefully serve you soon :)
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: SOUTHPAW on February 19, 2013, 10:42 pm
Hey,

As title, just been directed to SR by someone from 'Topix' where I was using MOM, but got scammed. So, today I read up on BTC etc and created a wallet on 'blockchain.info' which I then deposited some cash into from my bank account using an online transaction to get BTC. I then sent the BTC to SR to make a small purchase. Now I'm reading loads of stuff about anonymous BTC transactions etc and wonder if I did a dumb thing?

Cheers
Twonk, I promise you everyone had to start here at sometime and learn. You will over time read, read, and read things that will make you paranoid or think you screwed up terminally. Just relax, continue to read and learn and you will change the way you do business here and change your ID multiple times as you realize there is a better way that could have been done. Just never stop reading and learning from the experienced people here. Don't forget just because it says NEWBIE under their title does not mean they are....Good luck..
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: baconmacguru on February 20, 2013, 03:50 am
I surfed the forums and sr for months before deciding to actually make an account.
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: onetwothree on February 20, 2013, 04:16 am
I disagree with what has been said so far... from what you've described, your transaction history should be relatively easily traced. The only layer in the entire process severing you from your real identity (your bank account no less) is SR's tumbler. As far as I know, SR's tumbling methods/sourcecode is not public, so you just have to trust that it works well.

Having said that, one small purchase is not likely to draw any attention and you're almost assuredly safe. However, I personally would improve your anonymizing efforts in the future. You said your wallet is with blockchain; they offer a great anonymizing service for what I think is a reasonable fee of 1.5%. You can receive anonymously at 1.5% and send anonymously at 1.5% and then it goes to SR's tumbler, so you're getting 3 anonymizing services for 3%. You'll have to decide if that's something you want to pay, but if you're using your bank account directly, I think it would be wise.

For your current blockchain wallet, if you want to be as safe as possible, I would never use it again (assuming it's at 0.0 balance). Just generate a new one which has no association to any account or any other wallet, and make your transactions wisely, even if you don't use the anonymizer.

For what you've done so far, you're all good. Welcome to SR. Stay safe.
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: SOUTHPAW on February 20, 2013, 04:53 am
I disagree with what has been said so far... from what you've described, your transaction history should be relatively easily traced. The only layer in the entire process severing you from your real identity (your bank account no less) is SR's tumbler. As far as I know, SR's tumbling methods/sourcecode is not public, so you just have to trust that it works well.

Having said that, one small purchase is not likely to draw any attention and you're almost assuredly safe. However, I personally would improve your anonymizing efforts in the future. You said your wallet is with blockchain; they offer a great anonymizing service for what I think is a reasonable fee of 1.5%. You can receive anonymously at 1.5% and send anonymously at 1.5% and then it goes to SR's tumbler, so you're getting 3 anonymizing services for 3%. You'll have to decide if that's something you want to pay, but if you're using your bank account directly, I think it would be wise.

For your current blockchain wallet, if you want to be as safe as possible, I would never use it again (assuming it's at 0.0 balance). Just generate a new one which has no association to any account or any other wallet, and make your transactions wisely, even if you don't use the anonymizer.

For what you've done so far, you're all good. Welcome to SR. Stay safe.

Sounds like you've been around the block before..Good advice..
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: LDopa on February 20, 2013, 05:17 am
Look at the original bitcoin address at blockchain.info and do a taint analysis.  It's pretty good at showing if your tied to anything or not.
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: siberian345 on February 20, 2013, 07:17 am
didn't know blockchain had a tumbler.. thats nice. theres also bitcoinfog or other third party tumblers. as for transfering from a blockchain wallet to SR, do everything through tor and the only weak link would be you depositing cash at the bank anonymously (you're still on camera), and you receiving drugs in your mail box. theres also moneygram etc but thats anon too..
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: mrkyitty on February 20, 2013, 09:35 am
I surfed the forums and sr for months before deciding to actually make an account.

Wow you're a trooper. I lasted about a week before I gave in and started ordering. It really is just like a candy store.

didn't know blockchain had a tumbler.. thats nice. theres also bitcoinfog or other third party tumblers. as for transfering from a blockchain wallet to SR, do everything through tor and the only weak link would be you depositing cash at the bank anonymously (you're still on camera), and you receiving drugs in your mail box. theres also moneygram etc but thats anon too..

I'm pretty sure SR tumbles them as well.
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: Twonk on February 21, 2013, 08:05 pm
Much appreciated, amigos.

Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: jailbirdslanger on February 21, 2013, 08:10 pm
All depends on your taste for risk...some got balls of steel, some drop likes flys ... oh ya keep SR on the low homeboy for the benefit of the cause its CRUCIAL!!!
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: SorenBowie on February 22, 2013, 01:37 am
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oh ya keep SR on the low homeboy for the benefit of the cause its CRUCIAL!!!

I am a brand new user here (making my first order tonight or tomorrow I think) and I agree with this sentiment whole-heartedly!!

I am just so damn glad I don't have to deal with the shady ass dealers in my town any more.....I was getting pretty down that I had no alternatives to the asshats in my town when I found this place thanks to a gawker article and some creative google investigation.

long story short....I'm not telling ANYONE about this place. Its just too good.
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: Macmeth on February 22, 2013, 04:27 am
I been here for 8 mths and love to share with old mates who still like to get high but feel wrong about asking there kids to hook them up.
I love this place and the whole social disobedience vibe, love buying top shelf drugs for 1/6 of Australian price too.
Viva La Road
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: FieryDahlia on February 22, 2013, 07:01 am
I felt the same way when I first started, after your first few times, you'll understand how everything works a lot better and feel more secure. Good luck!
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: mogonality on February 22, 2013, 07:04 am
Is feeling more secure the same as being more secure, though? ;-)
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: Twonk on February 23, 2013, 05:52 pm
I'd feel more secure if my order would actually arrive - 6 days waiting....sad face.
Title: Re: New To BTC and SR - Confused By Security and Feeling Paranoid
Post by: shiru on February 23, 2013, 06:22 pm
youll be fine