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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: SKYY on March 17, 2012, 01:17 am
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Well, the news is.. there is no news.. :)
I see no current problem sending from Holland at all. It is just an idea that seems to pop up every now and then that only scares beginners on SR. Individual delays will happen with orders from any country.. if more is sent from Holland then of course you'll hear more about delays with some order coming from Holland.
It is a myth that somehow the success rate from Holland is that different from neighboring countries. At least ours isn't. I am pretty close to the border to both Germany and Belgium, if I thought it worthwhile I would drive the extra 30 minutes and post from there. But it isn't worthwhile. Holland is a trading nation, the number of envelopes being sent from Holland is absolutely huge. And it all goes through one main airport here in Amsterdam. That is what matters most to us, it's very easy to hide.
A bigger seller can have a large number of orders in transit. We closely monitor the structure of the 'days in transit' of outstanding orders to the main countries we send to. So we will be the first to spot any general delay to some country. If we are selling, it means all is well...
And if you do want to be sure of your product, go with the safest sender, see this (very short) thread about that:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=15569.0
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Ok, enough ipad typing. To keep this thread alive a little longer I will give a free sample mdma to the last reply here every Monday!! Remind me if I forget it some week.
SKYY
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every monday huh? what time zone? and i guess i'll have to be on the hunt hardcore!
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GMT+1, 'Whenever i wake up' AM :D
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If every vendor's packaging as as clever and inconspicuous as yours this probably wouldn't be a topic of conversation ;)
It's a calculated risk. I think I speak for most Americans on here saying that I would shop domestically for everything if I could find certain products of quality as good as what I've gotten from overseas. But 99% of the quality MDMA (one example) vendors are in Europe. I'm personally willing to take the risk doing business overseas for superior product (not without taking proper security measures on my end, of course).
Thanks Skyy!
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Made my first order with SKYY yesterday, woke up and it's already in transit. Cannot wait!! Using Escrow for an Australian, legend! Finally some decent vendors.
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I really wish other vendors from the Netherlands were as open and communicative on the forums as you are, Skyy. It would make us all feel better about general delays/waiting on products. I have some orders in transit that are taking a bit longer than expected, but if those Vendors were on the forums speaking making their buyers feel a bit less anxious, as you are doing now, I think I wouldn't be as worried and wouldn't lose the optimism I have when ordering from Netherlands.
Cheers, Sky! I look forward to ordering from you in the near future.
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This man is legit, got my second order from him today.
Excellent quality and ... it doesn't matter AT ALL what country you live in, his package will not be seized as contraband. It is simply the best packaging I have ever seen
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Only order I haven't received out of 25 orders here has been from Dr. Amsterdam in Netherlands.
I keep reading about all these people losing XTC beans in the mail from NL, but so far I suppose I've heard no bad news about you.
Do you think other vendors there are selectively scamming or just have poor packaging that doesn't make it through customs?
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Top notch as always SKYY
Much love from me to you. Keep up the good work
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I love SKYY! He is my favorite vendor on SR. The product is pure and powerful. Shipping is fast and discrete. Prices are stable and competitive. Most importantly he is friendly and frequently communicates.
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Never lost an order from the NL. (To Australia)
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way to scare the shit out of me with the title :P
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totally spot on, never had a problem with any order from NL at all, it may seem crazy to some but i feel more comfortable ordering from holland than i do from the US, those little customs declaration notes on US packages always worry me a little (not that ive ever had an order from the US not turn up either)
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From my experience, unfortunately the success rate of receiving orders from Holland has been significantly worse than say Germany, round my way in the UK. I have had 3 things sent from Holland, which resulted in me receiving a customs letter and the other two never arriving, presumably stolen. The problem is that in some countries customs agents and postal workers associate the Netherlands with drugs and the packages are much more likely to go through extra scrutiny or wind up stolen for their contents.
In my case all the orders that never arrived contained weed which is the easiest drug for customs to find, so maybe a drug dog sniffed them out, or at least the one that I got a customs letter for. I don't know if this has been the experience for everyone but my experiences ordering from NL haven't been quite so rosy. I at least wouldn't have weed or hash sent from there anymore.
I haven't ordered from SKYY, who I hear is an amazing vendor for MDMA and has incredibly discreet shipping methods, but I'm just playing devil's advocate and putting my personal reasons out there for why I avoid ordering direct from Holland.
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@Rowsdower
I think you're right with what you wrote. Even if the package don't get seized by customs, the postman makes his own thoughts about it.
I know that postal workers are told to look if there are things sent that are illegal, also.
If you get mail from the Netherlands it's more conspicuous than from other countries. We all know that the drug laws in the Netherlands are not as strong as in most EU countries.
That makes the Netherlands to a destination for drug traffic in the eyes of the customs and postal services.
But that's one of the risks you have to take when you're willing to order from a marketplace like silk road.
If you want to take the risk down to a minimum the best way is to order from domestic sellers.
They deserve to give them a try, too.
I know that the stuff from the Netherlands look like best quality you can get but if I speak for my country there are some good and legit sellers, too.
Who cares if a XTC- pill have a stamp or not if the only content is MDMA. And most domestic seller who sell MDMA crystals are imported them in larger amounts from the Netherlands. If I order from them I can lower my own risk.
Don't get me wrong anybody, that are just some thoughts. ;)
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I think a lot of it has to do with the type of product your moving. For instance, pills must be a lot easier and more secure than weed.
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I think a lot of it has to do with the type of product your moving. For instance, pills must be a lot easier and more secure than weed.
I think almost anything would. Certainly, well-squirreled away pills are nothing like as dicey.
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We've got some really professional people starting to pop up, between vendors like Skyy and Tony76
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Has there been many people placing orders on 50+ pills from Skyy? Am interested in knowing how easily such a quantity is delivered to other parts of Europe. Notably the western parts.
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Free sample??? Free sample??? ^^
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It's Monday and this is my first post ever on SR forums.
I want to win the price!
<3
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Free samples !! yummy yummy yummy ;)
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beat you to it?
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Has there been many people placing orders on 50+ pills from Skyy? Am interested in knowing how easily such a quantity is delivered to other parts of Europe. Notably the western parts.
I've gotten 50 pills from skyy and they got here in 6 days. From my experience that is much faster than average though (I'm in midwest US). Other orders from skyy were 14 days, one going on 30 that has never shown. It was a free sample and I'm not worried about it but I suspect it was jacked.. Only two things I hate about that is that I missed out on .5 of awesome MDMA and the thought that someone knows I had it shipped to me...
My latest order is at day 11. I'm confident it will show but if for some reason it doesn't I think the post man knows too much and that address is toast.
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have had 2 packs of 50 successfully delivered and waiting on 2 more, I expect nothing but the best. Always great service!
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have had 2 packs of 50 successfully delivered and waiting on 2 more, I expect nothing but the best. Always great service!
were these packs shipped to the u.s? im wanting to get 100 tabs but im afraid they wont make it but i hear skys packaging is good but is it good enough to where if they take a peak inside they will happen to see 100 or 50 pink tablets? lol i would hate to spend so much and then they get seized i know its a risk but has anyone had pills in 100s sent from holland or the uk?
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They won't see the pills, trust me. The packaging is the same for 2 or 100. You won't be disappointed.
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My first post here 8), thought I contribute some info.
I saw a program/series on TV about customs and border security. They used an X-ray scanner to check incoming mail /packages. They have a limited capacity, but it's very difficult to conceal stuff in material that is totally different from the stuff itself. The TV show is called "Border Security Australia Front-line" search in Google video, you'll find lots of episodes.
Also I saw that it was possible that the package was send to the address it was directed at. But with a police/customs investigation invisibly attached to it. Most of the time they look if other packages are mailed and raid the address after several "successful" deliveries. especially if the quantity is worth it, I think 50 or 100 is getting interesting.
This tactic is also widely used by dutch customs to locate drug production locations.
Not to scare anybody off, just trying to inform.
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Has anyone gotten a love letter for usa delivery from skyy? Seems a few packages didnt make? anyone have missing package?
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I do have a missing package, but no love letter. I explained it a few posts back. I'll chalk it up as lost unless something happens with this next package.
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Seeing as it's Monday, might as well try my chances right? If it can make it to me, it can make it anywhere! If I were to win I'll be sure to post a great product review, or keep my mouth shut if it doesn't arrive lol.
# EDITED # See what the date (or more importantly the day) when I posted this originally? Well, my mistake. That's what happens when I smoke too much weed and take benzos and pass out and wake up at 9 on a Tuesday thinking it's Monday. ;D
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who got the free sample?
EDIT: I mean who won the free sample? from that monday giveaway thing.
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# EDITED # See what the date (or more importantly the day) when I posted this originally? Well, my mistake. That's what happens when I smoke too much weed and take benzos and pass out and wake up at 9 on a Tuesday thinking it's Monday. ;D
hahaha been there :p its fun
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I've had experience with a couple of different vendors from NL and the only vendor who is 100% success rate to me is SKYY, therefore SKYY is only NL vendor I will be ordering from..IMHO SKYY and Tony76 are setting the bar on professionalism.
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From my experience, unfortunately the success rate of receiving orders from Holland has been significantly worse than say Germany, round my way in the UK. I have had 3 things sent from Holland, which resulted in me receiving a customs letter and the other two never arriving, presumably stolen. The problem is that in some countries customs agents and postal workers associate the Netherlands with drugs and the packages are much more likely to go through extra scrutiny or wind up stolen for their contents.
In my case all the orders that never arrived contained weed which is the easiest drug for customs to find, so maybe a drug dog sniffed them out, or at least the one that I got a customs letter for. I don't know if this has been the experience for everyone but my experiences ordering from NL haven't been quite so rosy. I at least wouldn't have weed or hash sent from there anymore.
I haven't ordered from SKYY, who I hear is an amazing vendor for MDMA and has incredibly discreet shipping methods, but I'm just playing devil's advocate and putting my personal reasons out there for why I avoid ordering direct from Holland.
I think the determining factor is the receiving country, not the origin country. You receiving customs letters meant it made it out of country. Maybe your country's customs are strictly intercepting packages from a certain region such as Holland. This may not happen all the time and there might be a peak season too.
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I've had experience with a couple of different vendors from NL and the only vendor who is 100% success rate to me is SKYY, therefore SKYY is only NL vendor I will be ordering from..IMHO SKYY and Tony76 are setting the bar on professionalism.
Can add Dopeboy too. Cus he's insanely neat and fast in processing and shipping orders.
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Waiting on my 5g order from SKyy to middle U.S this makes me comfortable!
Anyone have any experience on amounts like 20+pills or 20+g from Skyy, Ivory or any other awesome reputable vendor to the U.S??
My area is in a super drought and i would like to spread ze love! : )
<3
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Mr Ambulance, let us know when it arrives.
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Mr Ambulance, let us know when it arrives.
For sure. I recently lost my job, so i've been spending all my time catching up on school work and checking my P.O. box.
My 1g from Skyy was shipped about 8 days ago and my 5g was shipped 7-6 days ago (i fell into some more money before i recieved that 1g so idecided to buy more, against my better judgement)
I will b posting when i receive it, as well as product review, I'll even try to throw in pictures of Meckes, Marquis and a Simons results if anyone's interested in seeing 'em!
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I'm on my eleventh day waiting on the border proof delivery, east coast US. Marked as shipped on 3/11.
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Im in the same boat. On day 14 (eastcoast us) with a 5g order from skyy. I have no dout it will make it but the wait is KILLIng ME!! Im just hoping it comes b4 the weekend..
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Im in the same boat of waiting around 12-14 days.
I should say though this is regular for NL mail from my past experience.
The only thing that throws me off a little is that the last time SKYY was like 8 - 10 days I believe.
The paranoia builds with every day lol..sure everything is cool.
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Im in the same boat of waiting around 12-14 days.
I should say though this is regular for NL mail from my past experience.
The only thing that throws me off a little is that the last time SKYY was like 8 - 10 days I believe.
The paranoia builds with every day lol..sure everything is cool.
Yeah I hope you guys receive your gear, I know how much that paranoia sucks and the weird stalker-ish feeling one gets in the morning when peering out of windows for the mailman hoping he'll show at any minute with the goods and then if it doesn't arrive when he just drops junk mail in through the slot, creepily watching him walking away and wondering if he kept it for himself at the last second lol.
I really hope you guys don't get a dreaded customs letter or worse. One friend of mine in Sweden had his home raided and ransacked because of an intercepted letter containing a few grams of cocaine sent to his address. I myself was recently stopped at an airport and pulled aside in front of other passengers to go through an embarassing, highly intrusive extra security screening and the airport security explained it is because I have had customs letters of seizure sent to my name and/or address before and I'm flagged in the system because of it, presumably as what they would consider a likely smuggler. Had nothing on me though, I'm not stupid enough to try to take stuff on airplanes, but the experience really pissed me off and I felt violated on many levels. >:(
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That is a messed up story.
Ill be staying away from airports apparently from now on haha
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I placed several orders from NL back on Feb 23 and all were no shows. One is currently being reshipped. One of the others I am trying something new with the vendor. I will update ASAP.
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yo Baxter... same deal here... February 23. Let me guess, DRamsterdam?? I don't care what his stats are... that guy is sketchy. He "allegedly'" ships out a bunch of what turns out to be bunk LSD Shivas, then he shuts down his operation, goes into stealth mode, doesn't answer any messages and fails to participate in the resolution process regarding his "lost" shipments. Says he'll be back up and running in one week, but he takes two and then starts listing the same bunk LSD Shivas. EVERYONE... PLEASE WEIGH YOUR OPTIONS CAREFULLY WHEN CONSIDERING PURCHASING FROM DR AMSTERDAM!!! Selective scammer, is that the term being thrown around regarding some vendors? Well DRamsterdam is an outright fuckin' crook, in my opinion.
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=14812.0
Beware, regardless of seller - it makes sense for customs to look a bit more carefully at mail from NL
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Actually no it wasn't Dramsterdam. I had actually read that ^ forum post prior to. I don't want to say any vendor names because they have been great in trying to work out the issue. It's not their fault. But I think it is safe to say that customs in the USA has stepped their game up a notch. Bastards.
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Actually no it wasn't Dramsterdam. I had actually read that ^ forum post prior to. I don't want to say any vendor names because they have been great in trying to work out the issue. It's not their fault. But I think it is safe to say that customs in the USA has stepped their game up a notch. Bastards.
It's not just in the US guys, all SR users in the UK and any country with tough drug laws or intrusive law enforcement methods need to be careful too. Read what happened to me on the previous page. Not a pleasant experience and one I likely will have to go through now every time I travel through an airport, at least in the UK but possibly worldwide as well. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if I'm denied entry next time I visit the US, all because I was stupid enough to try to order a relatively small amount of weed from Holland and got a customs letter for it back home here in the UK.
Global government is coming folks (if it isn't more or less implemented already in some way) so be careful not to get your name or addresses red flagged like I did because you got cocky and ordered an illegal drug from a high risk country.
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SKYYs packaging is one of the most perfect things I have ever seen so I am not worried the least bit.
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Well, I wouldn't mind sampling some of that mdma. I wonder maybe I can win a monday freebie?
bump.
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i love mondays, especially if i win freebies :)
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any success to new zealand ?
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I'm 0/1 in orders from the Netherlands. It was one of my first few purchases and the seller required FE, so perhaps I was just scammed. Though the vendor was (and is) reputable, so I have doubts.
I am giving it another try, and if I'm 0/2 I'm abandoning the Netherlands altogether. The best shit on earth, but I'll need to actually travel there to sample it.
Edit: My first vendor was NOT Skyy, and I want to convey that. I'm not ragging on anyone in particular, just stating that in my personal experience, I have not received product from that area overseas.
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100 pills got to me fast and safe.
Couldn't be happier with my order.
Thanks SKYY, I'll be back for more :D
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3/3 orders from SKYY. If you're NL paranoid order from him, they won't seize your package !
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Is the new stock in yet?
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hey SKYY,
Lets say someone has had success from NL then some that never arrived. Would you say it would still be safe to order from you?
Me
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hey SKYY,
Lets say some has had success with two orders from NL then 3 orders that never arrived. Would you say it would still be safe to order from you?
Me
You will have no problems with SKYY's packaging anywhere, I think you could even order to Guantanamo Bay haha
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I'm pleased to report here that I received for the first time ever an order from the Netherlands, ordered from here, albeit not from SKYY. It took a while to get here, but that isn't the vendor's fault, it was shipped quickly after I placed the order. The packaging was very stealthy and I was impressed by it, even got a chuckle out of how discreet it was and thought there's no way anyone could guess what's REALLY in it. I think you could order it to a government office and they wouldn't think twice of it or try to open it ;D
So maybe all my past failures with receiving orders from Netherlands were simply due to a lack of stealthy packaging from the senders, after all this was my first time ordering from NL here on Silk Road. The level of professionalism here from the vendors never ceases to amaze me and I'm so glad I haven't had ANYTHING not arrive yet, from SR out of many orders from many vendors.
The orders I'd had to missing in the past and had gotten customs letters for which were sent from NL, were NOT from Silk Road but another service which sells weed and some other things. I am not a regular MDMA user, but there's a big party coming up soon so I am eagerly awaiting to place my first order with SKYY anytime now. :D
So to sum up, my faith in ordering from NL has been restored, at least from Silk Road vendors, you guys are the best and you don't mess around sending dodgy packaging overseas which I, as a customer really appreciate. Big ups to all you stealthy ninja NL vendors and much love <3
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I never ordered other than domestically until I heard SKYY's packaging was so good. I had to see it for myself. They are the only international vendor I use.