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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: th3rd on March 09, 2012, 04:38 pm
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How do you choose your return address.
I've received some packages that were clever packaging and related the business address used but how do you choose the address to use?
I usually pick at random what ever I see and have had good luck with that but would like to be more professional possibly :)
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I use previous addresses
I have thought about using the address of the asshole that ratted me out for AR but I can't be that hateful I would rather just kill the bastard
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I'm not sure if I should reveal this trick but I have made packs look like they're from law firms before.
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I'm not sure if I should reveal this trick but I have made packs look like they're from law firms before.
Best idea in this thread so far.
Here's the problem with most proposed return addresses: the USPS is familiar with the look, types, and daily average of most businesses mail in their zip code. Business class mail is also pre-sorted and cross-referenced with a USPS business account for payment. If you emulate some business class mail you received to send something, but put a first class stamp on it, it's going to be suspicious as FUCK to postal workers - they know it always has the pre-sorted stuff stamped on it without a regular stamp.
Also, remember, the postal workers know and recognize many many members of the community that they deliver mail to. Not only would it seem suspicious for packages or letters from a company that normally has the postal worker pick up packages INSIDE THEIR OFFICE in a professional MAIL ROOM to start getting dropped off anonymously in blue boxes... but it would also seem suspicious if a business which normally doesn't use a certain class of mail ie. Priority or Express, to suddenly start sending lots of mail that way. Postal Inspectors may go so far as to call the business and ask to speak to a manager and try to make a sales pitch on opening a USPS business account and using Click-N-Ship online to save money. When the manager says, "what Express packages? We don't even send mail", the case against you truly begins.
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Well all that is a benefit with my approach but the main reason is that USPIS will be hard pressed to find a judge willing to sign off on a warrant on something that looks like privileged communication unless it's straight leaking drugs. :-p
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i heard foreclosure homes are a good way to start for a return addy...
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Anyone can have an ebay business, and blue boxes would be the perfect method for such a business.
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Well all that is a benefit with my approach but the main reason is that USPIS will be hard pressed to find a judge willing to sign off on a warrant on something that looks like privileged communication unless it's straight leaking drugs. :-p
The postal inspectors can simply call the law firm and get confirmation on whether or not the recipient is a client, or whether the recipient was mailed anything by anyone in their office. If the law firm isn't sure who at the firm mailed it, that would be enough probable cause for a judge to issue a warrant to search the package.
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Well all that is a benefit with my approach but the main reason is that USPIS will be hard pressed to find a judge willing to sign off on a warrant on something that looks like privileged communication unless it's straight leaking drugs. :-p
The postal inspectors can simply call the law firm and get confirmation on whether or not the recipient is a client, or whether the recipient was mailed anything by anyone in their office. If the law firm isn't sure who at the firm mailed it, that would be enough probable cause for a judge to issue a warrant to search the package.
This. People aren't completely stupid especially if they are suspicious / looking for convictions. If someone who is in a kind of business where they are the ones responsible for filing mail and stuff like that in a business.... it would be great beneficial for them to use their own business prepaid envelopes and such. Although if LEO buys a pack it'll raise a situation.... then you just handle it. 8)
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just use a real address, fx, a real apartment complex addy, without the apt#. use a fake name or random ebay home business name or auto parts addy, like eBay Central, ect...
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I know apartment complexes where everyone is a druggie. Use someones address that lives there. If package gets returned the recipient gets free drugs! Definitely won't report it.
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no need to needlessly risk the freedom of anyone else...just dont leave an apt #...
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The postal inspectors can simply call the law firm and get confirmation on whether or not the recipient is a client, or whether the recipient was mailed anything by anyone in their office. If the law firm isn't sure who at the firm mailed it, that would be enough probable cause for a judge to issue a warrant to search the package.
This. People aren't completely stupid especially if they are suspicious / looking for convictions. If someone who is in a kind of business where they are the ones responsible for filing mail and stuff like that in a business.... it would be great beneficial for them to use their own business prepaid envelopes and such. Although if LEO buys a pack it'll raise a situation.... then you just handle it. 8)
no, you guys are right. I'm susceptible to cognitive dissonance too at times. I gotta rethink the key assumptions I have about my methods again, that's something I haven't done in a while and I think it would be helpful.
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Pick a big office building or apt building, but don't include the apt number or office number. It's a real address and checks out. Law offices are the best if you're going to pick a business, as attorney-client communications are privileged and a judge would not look kindly on someone opening that.
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just use a real address, fx, a real apartment complex addy, without the apt#. use a fake name or random ebay home business name or auto parts addy, like eBay Central, ect...
This sounds more sound to be honest.