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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: estefi123 on April 22, 2013, 07:00 am
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I got them for the first time last night and were they weird man, they are nothing like 2c-b / nbome /lsd visuals.
I saw people appearing and hiding behind columns but when i got closer there was nothing there, only some dark spot that somehow morphed into a person.
People with reflexions on their sunglasses looking for microseconds as devils or a DJ with green lights morphing into a reptilian for a short period of time.
In the bathroom when I got close to the wall I started seeing spiders and wasps, this reminded me the comments from ex drug addicts that appear on TV, the insects thing.
But strangely overall I wasn't scared nor anxious, i was feeling very lovely full of energy and good mood also very horny.
The worst thing that happened was losing my friend and seeing another guy with a cellphone just like his (which is not a very common model) I started to think he stole it so I tried to get closer, made a call and somehow hallucinated a sound of him hanging the call it also looked as he pressed cancel call, but my friend actually picked up the call, good thing I looked at my cellphone screen before doing something stupid.
My vision was "delayed" I saw the things before my brain could process them.
That night I took 2 caps of bk-MDMA 70mg each and 2 caps of 120mg of MDMA each, both crystals.
Do you guys experienced something like this even with other drugs?
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Sleep deprivation or psychosis is my guess
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Mmm well, I was really sleepy until taking the mdma (i took the bkmdma first and it was just making me anxious, one of the reasons i ended up taking so much in a night)
I dont think I had any tolerance, it's been like 3 months since the last time taking MDMA and like 3 weeks since taking bk-mdma.
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Mmm well, I was really sleepy until taking the mdma (i took the bkmdma first and it was just making me anxious, one of the reasons i ended up taking so much in a night)
I dont think I had any tolerance, it's been like 3 months since the last time taking MDMA and like 3 weeks since taking bk-mdma.
You can suffer sleep induced hallucinations while being wide awake and stimulated. High doses of mdma can produce CEV'S and OVE's but what you described sounds much more like sleep depravtion and lots of drugs
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Sleep deprivation or psychosis is my guess
Dude, are you stupid or something? Telling someone that he might have psychosis because he had hallucinations on MDMA?
Its something pretty common on high doses of pure MDMA. It happened to me when i took a wole ferrari sield at once.
Just dont pay' em attention. Its all on your brain :) .
Love.
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I certainly have hallucinations on MDMA at even smaller doses. I think I may be genetically predisposed to a lower hallucination threshold, because both my brother and I hallucinate at lower LSD doses than many of our friends. With MDMA, I get a kind of rainbowish halo around light-emitting things, as well as the paranoid figures you describe. Since beginning to take drugs, I actually experience acid flashbacks and hallucinations of dark areas as bugs/people fairly frequently, which makes me think this was always a feature of my brain that drugs have allowed me to attend to explicitly. Who knows.
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At those dosages I would side more with the MDMA really being MDA
Really you only get OEV on MDMA at much high doses but everyone is different
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Those types of hallucinations are the types of hallucinations that are common to stimulants. Insects, and shadow people.
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u took mdma cut with mda..
or u just took straight mda..
they are very similar only mda will make u see shit..
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well if you did a shit ton of bk, then some mdma later and you were tired to begin with, you probably did have a little bit of amphetamine psychosis, or "sleep deprivation"
mda doesnt produce "shadow people" and shit like that, it is an ACTUAL psychedelic.
your brain is probably a little unhappy about you doing a bunch of bk then some real :P
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I've had very similar hallucinations (people that weren't there) on high doses of MDMA. It's happened quite a few times, but usually only after I've "overdone" it..... 400mg upwards.
It's fairly common I think.
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Sleep deprivation or psychosis is my guess
Dude, are you stupid or something? Telling someone that he might have psychosis because he had hallucinations on MDMA?
Its something pretty common on high doses of pure MDMA. It happened to me when i took a wole ferrari sield at once.
Just dont pay' em attention. Its all on your brain :) .
Love.
No actually im not, mdma and mda can produce visual disturbances( visuals OEV'S and CEV's) you know tracers, color changes, shifting geometric patters, little dots and orbs ect. what he described were vivid hallucinations like you get when you dont sleep for long periods. staying up for 24+ hours doing large amounts of stimulants commonly puts people into light stimulant induced psychosis which often results in real hallucinations which are nothing like the visual effects psychedelics produce. You most certainly can experience visual disturbances with mdma and mda but not seeing insects crawling all over. Thats sleep deprivation, psychosis or delirium.
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Anyone have experience with audio hallucinations on MDMA?
First time I rolled I was like 19, still living at home, and I heard my twin brother and parents arguing very loudly while I was in my room, it was probably around 3 in the morning. After hearing ten minutes of arguing it became quite again, I called my brother to find out what happened only to find out he was sleeping and I had woke him up. Next morning I realized something, I had heard that argument before. It was an argument that happened after my brother had his license suspended, and for some reason my brain made me hear it again. I had completely forgotten about that memory until I sat down and thought about what I heard that night/early morning. It kinda freaked me out.
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Anyone have experience with audio hallucinations on MDMA?
First time I rolled I was like 19, still living at home, and I heard my twin brother and parents arguing very loudly while I was in my room, it was probably around 3 in the morning. After hearing ten minutes of arguing it became quite again, I called my brother to find out what happened only to find out he was sleeping and I had woke him up. Next morning I realized something, I had heard that argument before. It was an argument that happened after my brother had his license suspended, and for some reason my brain made me hear it again. I had completely forgotten about that memory until I sat down and thought about what I heard that night/early morning. It kinda freaked me out.
Yes high doses of mdma often induce audio disturbances, sometimes its just wha wha wha like nitrous, sometimes its voice and sometimes its music or just melody's. I have experianced it a few times on 400mg+ doses and once i was convinced someone was streaming music into my brain when on a hippy flip.
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It's happened to me one time on mdma, it was a pretty high dosage. I saw and was having a conversation with somebody who wasn't there and snapped back to reality after a minute. We all had a good laugh about it once they realized I didn't lose my mind.
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I have read somewhere that high doses of MDMA gets converted to MDA in the body, correct me if I am wrong.
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I have read somewhere that high doses of MDMA gets converted to MDA in the body, correct me if I am wrong.
ur wrong..
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I have read somewhere that high doses of MDMA gets converted to MDA in the body, correct me if I am wrong.
20 % of any methylenedioxymethylamphetamine (mdma) consumed, will convert into methylenedioxyamphetamine in the body.
*the more you know*
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I have read somewhere that high doses of MDMA gets converted to MDA in the body, correct me if I am wrong.
20 % of any methylenedioxymethylamphetamine (mdma) consumed, will convert into methylenedioxyamphetamine in the body.
*the more you know*
your also wrong
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The concentrations of MDA in the blood or urine of a person who has taken only MDMA are, in general, less than 10% those of the parent drug..
less then 10..
meaning not enough to make u see shit like a crazy person and be talking to someone who is not there.. thats insane.. not something that happens on any amount of mdma
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The concentrations of MDA in the blood or urine of a person who has taken only MDMA are, in general, less than 10% those of the parent drug..
less then 10..
meaning not enough to make u see shit like a crazy person and be talking to someone who is not there.. thats insane.. not something that happens on any amount of mdma
Exactly mdma does not have the ability to induce actual hallucinations without at least one other variable IE.. sleep deprivation or psychosis
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The concentrations of MDA in the blood or urine of a person who has taken only MDMA are, in general, less than 10% those of the parent drug..
less then 10..
meaning not enough to make u see shit like a crazy person and be talking to someone who is not there.. thats insane.. not something that happens on any amount of mdma
yeah you are right, its 5-10 %
i had to look that one up again, and when i did, i had no fucking clue where i got "20%" from....
damn haha.
but i did ironically just find something on an official government website, stating that MDA is LESS TOXIC than MDMA.
which goes against the rumors that have been around stating that mda is more toxic. ::)
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The concentrations of MDA in the blood or urine of a person who has taken only MDMA are, in general, less than 10% those of the parent drug..
less then 10..
meaning not enough to make u see shit like a crazy person and be talking to someone who is not there.. thats insane.. not something that happens on any amount of mdma
Exactly mdma does not have the ability to induce actual hallucinations without at least one other variable IE.. sleep deprivation or psychosis
I can actually attest to this. When trying to sleep on the tail end of a hard MDMA rolling session late at night, my CEV's were, to say the least, really intense. Not even close to shallow-sleep dream-state, but seeing some really funky visuals. No OEV's, but yeah... The high concentration in the setting of tiredness and/or actual sleep deprivation can definitely incite some hallucinations.
Fuck dude, anyone can actually vouch for this: When you're awake for 36-48 hours straight, with no drugs or alcohol of any kind, maybe some coffee, you can agree that there are definite peripheral hallucinations or hardcore aural hallucinations like bumps or whip-cracks.
MDMA + sleep dep or tiredness can most definitely induce OEVs/CEVs.
Psychosis? I don't know, have no experience in this. hurr durr
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Again kids, i had hallucinations (shades, people changing sex when i focus on them... even saw a girl using a laptop on this nightclub, but when i got closer, there was no laptop) with a whole ferrari pill (220mg) that i bought from here.
I didn't take anything else that night.
Also with a Nintendo, another night.
I also had very mild visuals with 300mg of pure mdma from Fartbomber.
So, are you telling me that the ferrari shields and the nintendos are cutted with mda? And that fartbomber (a super-legit vendor) also cuts his "pure mdma"?.....
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Again kids, i had hallucinations (shades, people changing sex when i focus on them... even saw a girl using a laptop on this nightclub, but when i got closer, there was no laptop) with a whole ferrari pill (220mg) that i bought from here.
I didn't take anything else that night.
Also with a Nintendo, another night.
I also had very mild visuals with 300mg of pure mdma from Fartbomber.
So, are you telling me that the ferrari shields and the nintendos are cutted with mda? And that fartbomber (a super-legit vendor) also cuts his "pure mdma"?.....
Not at all were saying you were sleep deprived on powerful stimulants and experienced a few small hallucinations it happens all the time. Stay up for a few days sober and you will get them.
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Again kids, i had hallucinations (shades, people changing sex when i focus on them... even saw a girl using a laptop on this nightclub, but when i got closer, there was no laptop) with a whole ferrari pill (220mg) that i bought from here.
I didn't take anything else that night.
Also with a Nintendo, another night.
I also had very mild visuals with 300mg of pure mdma from Fartbomber.
So, are you telling me that the ferrari shields and the nintendos are cutted with mda? And that fartbomber (a super-legit vendor) also cuts his "pure mdma"?.....
I always blow out when people take 250-300mg pure MDMA.. I take 125-150mg of pure crystal MDMA and I am utterly fucked munted rolling chewing orgasming for hours then drift into a peaceful sleep, and I'm 5'11, 200lb... 250-300mg in one go is crazy. Then there are cunts on here who roll on 600-700mg a night in 2 or 3 goes.
All of my why
I actually had 190mg MDMA last night in two rounds, 95mg each round (4 hours apart), and last night when I went to sleep, I was have intensely awesome CEV's while drifting to sleep. it was like tripping on acid
I could see why it would be easy to be scared... Some people just don't have the mental strength to ride out circular thought patterns and CEV's/Journeys. You shouldn't be doing drugs if you can't handle the lack of lucidity it carries.
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I have read somewhere that high doses of MDMA gets converted to MDA in the body, correct me if I am wrong.
Youre correct! Here is a post on bluelight that explains it and cites scientific research: (CLEARNET) http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/197722-MDMA-comedown-LSD-like-visuals?p=3007323&viewfull=1#post3007323
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Not uncommon. MDMA has slight psychedelic qualities on it's own, and as stated on above, some of the MDMA gets metabolised to MDA by the liver when taken orally.
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Not at all were saying you were sleep deprived on powerful stimulants and experienced a few small hallucinations it happens all the time. Stay up for a few days sober and you will get them.
i never said i was sleep deprived.