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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: mauiguy on May 29, 2013, 07:42 pm
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WATCH OUT for 10TOES, a very disreputable scum of the earth that is trolling for free money without any respect for customers health. Only the dollars mean anything to this prick. I showed her this report about her shit and she said "Fuck You, I hope you choke on it". Don't buy any coke without testing for levamisole, a bad, bad cut that can fuck with your mind!! This fucking bitch doesn't care about your life, fuck her!! Stop her fro selling POISON!!
Stop 10toes!! You are killing lots of people! Now you know and you have no excuse to sell that crap other than to hurt people. Stop selling Levamisole! You are killing people!! Many people get fucked up mental reactions to that shit and it drives them nuts and they don't know why! It's because you are poisoning them! Stop poisoning the community. It also KILLS!
Levamisole
Systematic (IUPAC) name
(S)-6-Phenyl-2,3,5,6-tetrahydroimidazo[2,1-b][1,3]thiazole
Clinical data
AHFS/Drugs.com Micromedex Detailed Consumer Information
MedlinePlus a697011
Pregnancy cat. ?
Legal status ?
Routes Oral
Pharmacokinetic data
Metabolism Hepatic
Half-life 4.4-5.6 hours (biphasic)
Identifiers
CAS number 14769-73-4 Yes
ATC code P02CE01 QP52AE01
PubChem CID 26879
DrugBank DB00848
ChemSpider 25037 Yes
UNII 2880D3468G Yes
KEGG D08114 Yes
ChEMBL CHEMBL1454 Yes
Chemical data
Formula C11H12N2S
Mol. mass 204.292 g/mol
SMILES[show]
InChI[show]
Physical data
Density 1.31 g/cm³
Melt. point 60 °C (140 °F)
Yes (what is this?) (verify)
Levamisole, marketed as the hydrochloride salt under the trade name Ergamisol (R12564), is an anthelminthic and immunomodulator belonging to a class of synthetic imidazothiazole derivatives. It was discovered at Janssen Pharmaceutica in Belgium, in 1966, where it was prepared initially in the form of its racemate (called tetramisole).[1]The two stereoisomers of tetramisole were subsequently synthesized,[2] and the levorotatory isomer was given the name levamisole. Levamisole has been used in humans to treat parasitic worm infections, and has been studied in combination with other forms of chemotherapy for colon cancer, melanoma, and head and neck cancer. In some of the leukemic cell line studies, both levamisole and tetramisole showed similar effect.[3] The drug was withdrawn from the US and Canadian markets in 2000 and 2003, respectively, due to the risk of serious side effects and the availability of more effective replacement medications.[4][5] The key toxic effect of the drug is agranulocytosis, a severe depletion of white blood cells that leaves patients vulnerable to infection.
Currently, levamisole remains in veterinary use as a dewormer for livestock. The medication has also been increasingly used as an adulterant in cocaine sold in the US and Canada, resulting in serious side effects.
Published on: April 26 2013
Tested by: PineappleLove
Vendor: 10toes
Listed as: "Premium Fishscale Cocaine"
Purchasing method: Anonymous
Results:
48% Cocaine
46% Levamisole
6% Caffeine
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There are a few vendors selling cocaine that has levamisole in it.
I doubt the vendors are adding it themselves, it is unfortunately part of the cocaine trade.
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what did you test this with and have you taken it up with SR admin?
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Everything I've read and my own experience would indicate that the lev. is being added well up the food chain, possibly at the source. By the time it get's to mid-level dealers like the one's on SR it's already in the brick. I doubt many of the vendors on here even know whether their stuff is cut with it. Hopefully, more of them will start using EZTest to screen what they buy. Once the cut shit stops moving whoever is responsible for adding it is going realize it's bad for business.
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I just sent a message to the vendor I use, asking him if he would know if that substance was in his product. I'll see what he says. People are so fucking greedy...damn >:( CARTELS
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If you go to the cocaine testing thread you will see that over half of the cocaine tested has levamisole in it. Majority of the cocaine here has levamisole in it...
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This shit...just wow. Fuck, maybe I'm just naive but this is just evil! Nearly half the ingredients in this stuff is this Levamisole then. Do the others that were tested have this much in them?? Why are they cutting it with this instead of something inert, I assume the Levamisole has some effects which maybe mimic cocaine and that's why?
I mean, they shouldn't cut it at all, but what's stopping them from using something harmless, maybe a wee bit of speed if they want to fake it...sorry if this is all dead naive, I'm not really that into coke.
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Learn to acetone wash your gear before you use it..
Thats the only true way to combat all the garbage greedy drug dealers use to hit their supply with.
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Yes I too would like to know 'why' they use levamisole? Does anyone know?
Although I think you are overreacting a little mauiguy, and targeting a vendor 'specifically' for this cut in their coke is naive at best! Seriously it's common knowledge cutting often occurs higher up the food chain, so 'blaming' a vendor like this iis not going to make folks either 'listen' to what you have to say, plus it only makes you appear as an unbalanced hothead!
It seems you didn't think this one through! Coming in here and attacking a vendor is poor form bro, where's the link to your initial 'review' once you got the product eh?
You could still make the same statement about 'coke being cut with levamisole' in general, without 'singling out' a specific vendor!
Washing cuts out of dope is good BUT if the coke is 50% cut, it kinda fucks the whole deal up, dont you think? Why buy coke you NEED to clean?
IDK but 'theXchanges' coke has been REALLY NICE! What 'real' coke is like, maybe a little pricey for some but not for here!
just our 3 satoshi's worth;)
mixed magic man motek
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Levamisole is cheap, widely available and seems to have the right look, taste and melting point to go unnoticed by cocaine users, which may alone account for its popularity. "Ease of availability seems likely to be important," says Reinarman. "Let's remember that producer countries are widely agrarian." Levamisole is used on farms, and its cost per gram is minimal.
An understanding of how levamisole affects the body, however, may better explain its explosive popularity. A 1998 paper found that levamisole relieved symptoms of heroin withdrawal in rats and also raised levels of various brain chemicals related to drug highs. "It may increase dopamine and by so doing may enhance cocaine effects," speculates Dr. Nora Volkow, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse.
CAME UP WITH THIS
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An acetone wash will not remove lev. There is no practical way to separate them without a good lab at your disposal. The physical characteristics: melting point, solubility, etc. are too similar. That's why it's such an effective cutting agent. It even looks scaly like good coke.
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Where is it coming from? According to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency, levamisole has become increasingly popular as a "cut," or diluting agent, in cocaine and possibly some heroin. It is now found in 70% of all cocaine seized in the U.S., up from 30% in 2008. Unlike most cuts — usually inert or relatively harmless substances like the B vitamin inositol, which are added by lower-level dealers looking to stretch supplies — levamisole appears to be added to cocaine from the outset, in the countries of origin. The substance has been found in various concentrations in cocaine analyzed in countries around the world, from Switzerland to Australia. And urine tests of cocaine users attending a drug clinic at San Francisco General Hospital in 2009 — one floor above Graf's office — found that 90% of samples were positive for levamisole; similar tests in Seattle revealed that 80% of cocaine users there had levamisole in their systems.
"If it's showing up in all those different places, that's a prima facie indicator that it's happening at the highest levels of production," says Craig Reinarman, a sociologist at the University of California, Santa Cruz, who has long studied cocaine. But since cocaine is illegal, there's no easy way to remove levamisole from the supply chain. Law enforcement could instead target large purchasers, possibly putting pressure on dealers to switch to other cuts.
AND THIS
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Levamisole is cheap, widely available and seems to have the right look, taste and melting point to go unnoticed by cocaine users, which may alone account for its popularity. "Ease of availability seems likely to be important," says Reinarman. "Let's remember that producer countries are widely agrarian." Levamisole is used on farms, and its cost per gram is minimal.
An understanding of how levamisole affects the body, however, may better explain its explosive popularity. A 1998 paper found that levamisole relieved symptoms of heroin withdrawal in rats and also raised levels of various brain chemicals related to drug highs. "It may increase dopamine and by so doing may enhance cocaine effects," speculates Dr. Nora Volkow, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse.
CAME UP WITH THIS
I see, thanks for the reply :) So I was half right, it does increase the high, and the availability makes sense too. I've not checked out coke on SR, I can get it locally, it's expensive but I'd rather pay through the nose, than potentially put this stuff up my nose!
Just another lovely side effect of prohibition then I suppose, fuck the people doing this shit!
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AND ONE MORE THING--EFFECTS
It was a medical mystery. In the summer of 2008, a man and woman, both in their 20s and both cocaine users, were separately admitted to a Canadian hospital with unremitting fevers, flulike symptoms and dangerously low white-blood-cell counts. Their symptoms were consistent with a life-threatening immune-system disorder called agranulocytosis, which kills 7% to 10% of patients and is rare except in chemotherapy patients and those taking certain antipsychotic medications.
Neither of the Canadian patients fit that bill, but they did have one thing in common: illegal drug use, says Dr. Nancy Zhu, who treated the patients during her hematology fellowship at the University of Alberta Hospital in Edmonton. "We were theorizing that maybe it was something in the cocaine," she says.
(See how cocaine scrambles genes in the brain.)
The medical literature didn't contain any studies linking agranulocytosis with cocaine. However, in April of that same year, a New Mexico lab had identified a small number of unexplained cases of the disorder, also in people who had snorted, injected or smoked cocaine. Later, in 2009, a few cocaine addicts in San Francisco — crack smokers, mostly — began displaying even stranger symptoms, like dead, darkened skin. "It looked like people were getting burns all over their body," says Dr. Jonathan Graf, a rheumatologist at the University of California, San Francisco. "[Their skin was] black, as if you had taken a cigarette butt to it. In some people, it was all over, on their legs and bellies."
By that time, back in Canada, a toxicologist at Alberta Hospital had noticed an unusual chemical in the urine of the two cocaine-using patients: levamisole. Zhu contacted him, and they put the puzzle together. Further research revealed that levamisole, a drug that was once used to treat colon cancer but is now reserved for veterinary use as a medication to get rid of worms, can cause agranulocytosis in humans. The "burns" seen on Californian patients, who also were suffering from agranulocytosis, were the result of skin infections related to patients' compromised immunity. There have now been several dozen cases of cocaine-related agranulocytosis reported in North America — and one known death. "For some reason, this drug called levamisole keeps popping up," Zhu says.
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thanx marcoraus great reply, thanks SO much for providing such a succint explanation as to why levamisole is used. Very cool +1
It seems that this compound is being added to the drug waaay before vendors like 10toes get a chance to do anything...it seems this stuff is here to stay as for as the cartels are concerned
what a shit that is! That said, we have had some great coke recently, which we can only compare to stuff we've had waaay back when, and it was very good, maybe not 'stronger' but definitely 'nicer' than a lot of 'good' coke we have had. hmmm?
When did using this stuff as a cut first come onto the scene? hey marco has just posted a lot more info on this, Thanks very much bro, good to have members like you about ;)
cheers all m m m motek x
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+1 from me as well..
So how many deaths attributed to this gabage will it take before those damn mexicunts stop hitting their bricks with it!?
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+1 from me as well..
So how many deaths attributed to this gabage will it take before those damn mexicunts stop hitting their bricks with it!?
What makes you think it happens in Mexico and not South America?? It's used to deworm cattle and South America does have many cattle ranches...
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Yea true, but from my vast understanding of kilos of blow, the majority of it is distributed by the cartel, last i heard a few years back they had straight up went to the Colombians and made it clear that they would be taking over all distribution for what ever region.
Mexicans, Colombians...who cares, their killing us with their greed! lol
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Any vendor that doesn't test their product probably could give a shit less about your health. Kits don't cost that much, especially if you can save a life instead of destroying one
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This has bothered me for some time, though I only partake of the caine occasionally. I still don't want one grain of another substance in there that isn't at least benign, like mannitol, or inositol, or caffeine, as is common.
I brought it up once on the Coke Vendors page under another pseudonym, and I was surprised at the amount of ambivalence, and ignorance of some of the regulars on there. It was as though many didn't want to hear any negative information about their favorite escape from reality.
I can relate to that. Having been addicted to it in my younger years (20s). One kind soul pointed me in the direction of a few Vendors who clearly state in their ads or profiles "Levamisole-free", some even claim to constantly test product as they get it in. There I made my choice for the purchase I needed for a friends birthday. It was a few more $ than I'd planned on spending, but it got rave reviews from the small circle of friends, who hadn't had good coke or any for some, in many years.
One 'expert' said it was as close to the pure he tried once. Apparently he once managed to procure a bottle of Mercke Pharmaceutical from someone in the entertainment biz. (makes for a good story at parties anyway ;))
So there are conscientious dealers/Vendors are out there, you just have to find them. You can also try PM'g them, and ask if they know or test for it.
Like others have said, and I've read as well, most if not all of it, comes from the source, or is subsequently stepped on by the 2nd one in line, and most Coke Vendors are just reselling what they bought from some dealer, most likely 12 or 13 contacts away from the actual Cartel from whence it came.
The ones who offer it Levamisole free, will be the last ones standing.
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This is really important information. Where can you get Levamisole test kits?
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It is a regular event sadly...but I have now begun to get a more direct supply and this has improved my supply 100%!...so I now offer to others on SR just because I want decent gear to get to others..
It's the bad form when it's a disappointment in terms of purity and the worst if it harms others. So grim.
Anyway, I tend to test thoroughly to avoid any impurities as much as possible. Acetone is not sufficient to clean thoroughly but a good start guys..keep safe and enjoy
Doc
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Learn to acetone wash your gear before you use it..
Thats the only true way to combat all the garbage greedy drug dealers use to hit their supply with.
Do you know a guide for it?
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Learn to acetone wash your gear before you use it..
Thats the only true way to combat all the garbage greedy drug dealers use to hit their supply with.
Do you know a guide for it?
Here's a guide to washing (clear net): http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27089
Again, as I mentioned above, this will NOT remove levamisole, but will get rid of a lot of other shit. There is no easy way that I know of to seperate levamisole from cocaine.
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As I mentioned before, I contacted a very Professional vendor about this situation. He stated that at this time most mid level distributors,including himself, don't have access to the proper testing kits to be able to quantitatively distinguish if this substance is in their product, it is only available to LE,crime labs and forensic units around the world. He did say that he is working on obtaining it through his contact. Some where around the 2nd week of June it should be in place for him.
So here I sit with 1.5gms of some really smooth product ,second guessing... :-\. The one good thing for me,is that I don't binge. 2lines and I'm good for hours.
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So well more than half of all cocaine is poisoned. Terrific! Who would have imagined? Unfortunately, the drug trade today is not what it was in my day. Now it's run by bloodthearsty gangs which worship the Devil. I guess it should be no surprise that they poison their product. What a shame......Does anyone know the incidence of this stuff (or any other poison) being used in Heroin?
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So well more than half of all cocaine is poisoned. Terrific! Who would have imagined? Unfortunately, the drug trade today is not what it was in my day. Now it's run by bloodthearsty gangs which worship the Devil. I guess it should be no surprise that they poison their product. What a shame......Does anyone know the incidence of this stuff (or any other poison) being used in Heroin?
It's sometimes used in heroin.
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It seems strange to say this, but from what we've experienced cutting coke (well) is a much more 'difficult' task than cutting heroin.
Only becoz back in the days during our 'coke phase'! (lol! some 'phase'!) most buyers, even gm buyers would bust out a test tube full of bleach, chop up 20-30mgs and test the stuff (in the US the called it "chlorox testing") and anything that wasn't coke showed up fairly clearly. most people made their own freebase using bicarb, any 'active' cuts fucked up the process so dealer needed to keep it neutral.
Down here at the time, Ascorbic acid aka vitamin 'c' was used as it fitted this purpose perfectly, it's very dense, (mildly acidic, doesn't affect 'basing') ... a rounded tablespoon weighed over 3gms (a heaped tblsp of this coke maybe weighed 1.5g's, it was very 'light and fluffy') so putting 3g's into an ounce seemed to change nothing, NO one could tell which was the cut and which wasn't, even the seasoned base cookers who thought they could easily know, from the cooking and the way it burnt and tasted! IDK I wasn't a smoker! I liked the rush too much. That train rush of silence and the ringing in the ears! Yo! (maybe when mixing it in a spoon you would notice a few crystals of ascorbic acid, but very little, and the rocks of coke needed to be massaged to dissolve and this would be gone at the same time, it was hard to tell)
Back then all the 'known cuts' had certain 'behaviour' when dropped in bleach, but you couldn't really tell exactly what it was, although you would get an idea 'how much' was there from watching 'how much did what?' It's actually a very good way to test coke but I haven't seen it used in decades! dunno why ...
Seems like folks are happy to do a simple qualitative assay and then wait for someone else to tell them they had it tested with a GC/MS! One extreme to the other, whilst bleach testing is probably more effective than any other simple test for any other drug! Or maybe folks just dont know about it ... anyone?
Back to smack, usually cuts cant/dont affect the stone so the choices are much greater ... and they dont use things like levamisole becoz they dont 'have to' there are much cheaper alternatives and often this 'cutting' are already done higher the food chain, far from street level, at least here in oz. And the 'cuts' they do use are inert, usually some type of sucrose made bitter with quinine or the like..
Re-rockin dope has been the case with all the street heroin I've seen in melb the past few years, whereas sydneys dope still seems to be predominately powder ... on the brighter side, one of the few 'advantages' to the dope being 're-rocked' before it hits the street levels, where trying to cut it would be futile ... IMO it's weird how melb and syd have diffrent ideas on what constitutes 'ok dope' with sydney happy to see good powder whereas it seems melb has this obsession with dope having to be 'rocks' ... it's dumb!
mmmmm motek :o
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try to reach that 50 mark...
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there are far more appropriate ways to do that, rather than jump in on a semi serious thread with spam. Tighten the fuck up bro! Show some thought and maturity when posting and ppeople will like it, be a troll and you'll get burned.
just sayin!
mmmmmmmmmmm motek :o
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There is always this sort of risk with any purchased drug.
You're hoping and relying that the seller/manufacturer are actually putting reputable chemicals in the process to make their drugs. Ecstasy is a perfect example of this with a lot of MDMA pills containing a tiny amount of actual MDMA and then other chemicals like rat poison and drain cleaner....
Must always be careful :)
-BB
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why the FUCK would anyone put, or even 'want to' put "drain cleaner and rat poison" with drugs for? They dont want to kill theor customers OR make them sick, that's very bad for business!
Dude you clearly have NO idea what you are talking about, or are you just trollin? IDK ...
mixed muddled morose motek
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Quality over quantity...
Some pricing here may be a surprise to new people...but it reflect quality, care and security in my case.
No cuts...no poisons...just good gear.
Hope you all stay away from the crap :)
Cheers - AND THE SUN IS OUT!!! ....time for a beer :)
Doc
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I am an infrequent cocaine user, really just the odd line now and again, and the reason was that a good few years ago I had some really excellent cocaine and since then mostly shit!
Back then I had a mate who dealt a bit and had some good contacts, one day he asked if I could analyse a sample of his gear (I worked in a lab at the time and had good GC/MS) so I sneaked in a tiny sample and ran it up one evening, result showed it to be almost pure (was converted to freebase for the analysis) there were traces of various bits n bobs but nothing that could be thought of as a cut, probably contaminants from the lab that extracted it.
In return for my efforts I got a gram of the best charlie I ever had, pity he ended up 400 miles away and out of the business :(
About a year after this I had a guy offer me some "top grade" "pure" coke and I bought a bit. Was dissapointed and ran an analysis on it and as expected it was only 29% cocaine the rest was made up of paracetamol, caffeine, speed and a few unknowns that were not on the machines database!
Sadly I no longer work in a lab so I have no facilities to test, and generally dont buy coke and with the increasing use of levamisole I am less tempted than ever.
Despite all the claims of vendors coke remains the one drug (I dont do heroin) that I dont trust on the road....and that not knocking the vendors its just I cant imagine finding any pure coke these days as everyone has said its cut way up the line so its a loosing battle to get clean coke.
I just wish someone found a way of making proper coke synthetically...possible I believe but not easy.
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Can understand your feeling on it...I'd be pissed with that er..."purity" lol
Not all vendors are equal however...I will leave it at that :)
Cheers
Doc
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There is always this sort of risk with any purchased drug.
You're hoping and relying that the seller/manufacturer are actually putting reputable chemicals in the process to make their drugs. Ecstasy is a perfect example of this with a lot of MDMA pills containing a tiny amount of actual MDMA and then other chemicals like rat poison and drain cleaner....
Must always be careful :)
-BB
You would qualify as a seasoned D.A.R.E. officer with that bullshit you're spewing. ::)
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I questioned the vendor I use about the situation with this substance. He stated that he was well aware of this poisoning problem. He seemed honest and very open about this problem and also about not having the right testing equipment.
I have decided not to purchase any more BLO ,and keep my fingers cross about the product I have left.
That being said, I will continue to send messages to certain vendors,making polite inquiry, as to whether or not they know or if they have attempted to find out if their product is polluted with this CRAP<< Levamisole>>.
I can think of much better ways of poisoning myself(not that I would want to) besides with this FLESH EATING GARBAGE.
Everyone who likes to indulge should at least be sending a message up the food chain,via the last chain in the link.
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I questioned the vendor I use about the situation with this substance. He stated that he was well aware of this poisoning problem. He seemed honest and very open about this problem and also about not having the right testing equipment.
I have decided not to purchase any more BLO ,and keep my fingers cross about the product I have left.
That being said, I will continue to send messages to certain vendors,making polite inquiry, as to whether or not they know or if they have attempted to find out if their product is polluted with this CRAP<< Levamisole>>.
I can think of much better ways of poisoning myself(not that I would want to) besides with this FLESH EATING GARBAGE.
Everyone who likes to indulge should at least be sending a message up the food chain,via the last chain in the link.
None of the vendors have the proper testing equipment. Just go to the cocaine testing thread and look at test results for different vendors.
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Hell, there is the lab test thread to help with this. Of course a test of one sample doesn't guarantee that what YOU get is the same, but, at least the anonymous tests give you a pretty good idea of what your vendor gets.
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Hell, there is the lab test thread to help with this. Of course a test of one sample doesn't guarantee that what YOU get is the same, but, at least the anonymous tests give you a pretty good idea of what your vendor gets.
^My exact feelings.
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Cocaine is worthless to me, especially after doing MDMA, and especially after seeing that coke testing thread.
The best "uncleaned" coke was 60% coke 7% DEWORMING chemical then filler
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Cocaine is worthless to me, especially after doing MDMA, and especially after seeing that coke testing thread.
The best "uncleaned" coke was 60% coke 7% DEWORMING chemical then filler
You must not have checked out that thread in a while dude, there has been some very high purity stuff tested lately, stuff with zero active cuts too.
Strait up, unwashed, pure, panty droppin , shit.... ;D
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I do cocaine
-Dr. Rockso
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all i hope for here is that it's not cut to badly with some nasty crap.
as we speak i've done almost half a bagie in an hour with very little action from it, even less than from street stuff. at least it's cut nicely with no disgusting side effects
tried 4 vendors so far and overall it's 6/10 quality
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vI...suggest you try mine....will blow you away
:0
Cheers
Doc
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There are a few vendors selling cocaine that has levamisole in it.
I doubt the vendors are adding it themselves, it is unfortunately part of the cocaine trade.
We may not see eye-to-eye on the second point, but the first is correct. In fact, levamisole cutting is quite promulant, not just on Silk Road. Cutting coke with levamisole is fucked up, but they do it anyway. Still, that's not great coke purity, I'm surprised. Obviously a blind test by PineappleLove I'm assuming.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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If you go to the cocaine testing thread you will see that over half of the cocaine tested has levamisole in it. Majority of the cocaine here has levamisole in it...
Ah shit, I should have just used this.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
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lol
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Aye, I keep forgetting how nasty and common the Levamisole cutting is now a days. Not sure where you guys have all been reading at about testing but ez-test has a cocaine 'cuts' test that will detect the presence of Levamisole now. And I believe they have had it for at least the 4 months or so ago that I noticed it there.
*clearnet*
http://eztest.com/cocaine-cuts-a-test-for-levamisole-phenacetine-and-ephedrine/#ecwid:category=0&mode=product&product=14053595
*clearnet*
As far as washing your coke goes I sadly do not know much if anything about what methods will remove Leva. But one of the better guides out there which includes the basic Acetone wash as well as some of the more advanced ethanol and chloroform washes was posted by Le Junk over at bluelight.ru
*clearnet* but will allow anony viewing via proxy over tor.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/317605-cocaine-purification
*clearnet*
I love this site much better than the drugs-forum also. Drug-forums, or however it's universal resource locator is arranged has always made me feel very uncomfortable in that it wants you to utilize non anonymous means to access it. Just smells of honey pot to me. *shrugs*
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Tests are also available from:
• The People's Harm Reduction Alliance at the University District needle exchange: 1415 NE 43rd St (behind the post office on the Ave), 330-5777,www.peoplesharmreductionalliance.org. It's open Tuesday and Thursday from 5:00 to 7:00 p.m., and Friday and Sunday from 1:00 to 5:00 p.m.
• DanceSafe: To get kits, e-mail seattlecoke@dancesafe.org or call 888-636-2411, option 1. Dance- Safe will coordinate kit-distribution tables around the city, including Pioneer Square. This Friday evening, November 12, find them near the pergola at First Avenue and Yesler Way. Check Slog for future locations and updates.
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Learn to acetone wash your gear before you use it..
Thats the only true way to combat all the garbage greedy drug dealers use to hit their supply with.
Unforunately, acetone washing doesn't remove the levamisole.
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unfortunately acetone wont work for levamisole BUT ethanol will!!
"Levamisole hydrochloride is only slightly soluble in absolute ethanol. So if you want to use cocaine I suggest you learn a few chemical processing techniques. Cocaine Hydrochloride is freely soluble in ethanol. Simply adding a small amount of ethanol to your sample will dissolve all the cocaine leaving levamisole behind. Filter off the levamisole and then evaporate off the alcohol from the cocaine solution and you will have mostly pure cocaine except for other cuts that may be soluble in ethanol."
voila ... levamisole free cola!
m m m motek
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unfortunately acetone wont work for levamisole BUT ethanol will!!
"Levamisole hydrochloride is only slightly soluble in absolute ethanol. So if you want to use cocaine I suggest you learn a few chemical processing techniques. Cocaine Hydrochloride is freely soluble in ethanol. Simply adding a small amount of ethanol to your sample will dissolve all the cocaine leaving levamisole behind. Filter off the levamisole and then evaporate off the alcohol from the cocaine solution and you will have mostly pure cocaine except for other cuts that may be soluble in ethanol."
voila ... levamisole free cola!
m m m motek
As you said, Levamisole is somewhat soluble in ethanol, so removing it entirely, while keeping your coke isn't going to be that easy. Apparently, ether would be a better solvent but of course its not something you should be messing around with in your kitchen.
I haven't tried this method but I found this post in the drug safety forum that describes a relatively simple method for separation. Be curious to hear from anyone who may have experience with it.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=3848.msg46594#msg46594
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he says that ethanol wont work as it has too much water in it. IHDK?
You can "dry" ethanol using magnesium salts, (Mg sulfate) you 'dry' them in an oven at about 150c for 90mins, then crush it and put it into the ethanol ... voila, 'dry' ethanol.
You could maybe use di-ethyl ether (engine starter spray) but it has some characteristics (very volatile, not very easy to obtain for the uninitiated) which make using ethanol (methylated spirits in Oz) more viable.
Has anyone experience or know about what the effects of levamisole are in smaller doses? Does it have any effects?
cutting coke with active cuts is ... is, just ... well
it's such a shitty thing to do!
How many of you actually DO wash their coke, or turn it to the freebase?
hmmmmm motek :)
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Anyone have the latest statistics on levamisole content in cola in the US and/or worldwide? Many of the articles etc I have read on the clear net is posting data up to 2009. Any data out for 2012-2013? Have the makers, cartels etc realized the dangers and decreased use? I saw this flyer posted in a forum about levamisole as a cutting agent: http://a.imageshack.us/img291/5963/alerty.jpg (clear net). This was a flyer posted publicly in Seattle. Anyone with connects pass it on. Send this flyer to the makers of our product. Damn what a fkn buzz kill to worry if this shit is in my yay. All orders I place from now on will be accomponied with a combo EZ test. Testing for coke content and cutting agents. A box of 10 of these ests is only ~$25. Not bad, if we can afford $100-190 per gram I think we can afford a box of these tests. Get the word back to our dealers and get this shit out of our supply. EZtest.com on clear net supplies the tests. http://www.eztestkits.com/en/
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Damn thats fucked up, but hey you just gotta expect shit like that when dealing with the drug world...
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Although I think you are overreacting a little mauiguy, and targeting a vendor 'specifically' for this cut in their coke is naive at best! Seriously it's common knowledge cutting often occurs higher up the food chain, so 'blaming' a vendor like this iis not going to make folks either 'listen' to what you have to say, plus it only makes you appear as an unbalanced hothead!
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It is most certainly the vendor's responsibility to know what they are selling and to accurately describe it. If you don't know what is in the substance you are selling then you have no business selling it. If it is stepped on you had better damn well point that out in the listing
Buyers deserve to know what they are getting.
I have noticed this sort of complacancy in the coke community in the past and the fact that people put up with it is why it keeps getting stepped on.
I am sure most people would rather pay the same price and get just the 40% coke without the additives. Informed customers don't need to be fooled with stepped on shit, that tactic is for street dealing where there is no trust.
There are suppliers out there that cater to high end buyers who provide the straight dope, that would be the ideal source for the road.
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so I started at the back or end of the Cocaine listings and started with a new vendor,"WhiteDreams, and politely sent him this message:
"Hello ,
Just wondering since you're so close to the source, do you know if your bricks are being cut with Levamisole. Are you testing for it? Its a pretty nasty cut in terms of side effects over the long haul. Thanks in advance
MarcoRuas"
I'll post the reply if I get one. BTW, I personally don't want to become a chemist to infrequently sniff a few lines of BLO. I just don't have the time.
WHITEDREAMS has replied:
"They havent been in the past however i currently to not have a lab test. Its been probably 6 months since we got a lab test on the product. If u want try a small order for a sample?"
And I replied:"The problem is I'm not set up to test for that cut either. I'm sure your product is very good. The thing is, levamisole, doesn't take away from the effects of the cocaine. If anything, it somewhat enhances it,but at a price. What's happening now is that as consumers, we are becoming more aware(or paying closer attention to) of the adulterants used in cocaine. Why the people at the top of the food chain would want to add this poison is beyond me and a lot of other people here on SR. Oh wait...GREED!! "Google" it and you'll understand why some if not most of us are up in arms.
Bottom line, if you could provide Levamisole free cocaine,and prove it, I think with out a doubt your sales will be even better. Especially here on SR. Thanks for responding.
MarcoRuas"
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Marco - I have no idea about that vendor, but as a reasonably new vendor (1 month here) I do know both the source and content I sell.
I regularly test and allow the community here to conduct any tests on my samples they wish - some review others don't (which I think a little rude to be honest as I am giving away product for the purpose of reviews/feedback and to ensure the community recognise those of us who are professional and respectful of you all)
Anyway, I would welcome you all and perhaps give you a more joyful and complete experience!
Cheers
Doc
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DrCol,
I'm not pointing any fingers. Not my intent. Just randomly asking different vendors if they are aware if this problem CUT and if so what are they willing to do about it. I'm just trying to help out in my own way. I welcome you and your business, to the ROAD. If you are honest about your dealings, then you shall do well. I just saw your page, and since I have a few spare coins, I'd be willing to try a sample of yours.
MarcoRuas
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using greys shake/bake method to remove levamisole should work
do a acetone wash
heat a nonstick pan to 170f bake for 10min and sift like panning for gold. levamisole is a finer powder while cocaine clumps together, pull the clumps out repeat a few times
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maybe for larger amounts wraithe, e.g. at least >1g
For smaller amounts it's not such a great method, sheesh I'd hate to see half of a g I buy stuck to the pan!
@marcoraus, Nice one matey +1
@ Tesselated, how do you propose vendors assess the coke they get, as it's pretty clear from PineappleLove's thread that a large proportion of the vendors appear to have no other methods available to them other than EZ tests and the like
A good OTC method for ascertaining this would be great. Personally I advocaate the Clorox tests, but I dont see that much coke these days and so I haven't had a chance to see what happens with levamisole cut cola ... anyone?
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maybe for larger amounts wraithe, e.g. at least >1g
For smaller amounts it's not such a great method, sheesh I'd hate to see half of a g I buy stuck to the pan!
@marcoraus, Nice one matey +1
@ Tesselated, how do you propose vendors assess the coke they get, as it's pretty clear from PineappleLove's thread that a large proportion of the vendors appear to have no other methods available to them other than EZ tests and the like
A good OTC method for ascertaining this would be great. Personally I advocaate the Clorox tests, but I dont see that much coke these days and so I haven't had a chance to see what happens with levamisole cut cola ... anyone?
i will let u know. i have pure here and I can get levamisole cut easily. ill do a test within a week or 10 days and let u know
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You are a Gentleman :)
I hope to impress you and look forward to your feedback...
Cheers
Doc
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ive read a few threads in bluelight about the ethanol even the dry. They said it wasnt successful. I do not know but in the next month or so I will be doing multiple different washes and gauging the results. thats why Greys method was seen as the best at the time I researched it
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Nice one wraithe, looking forward to hearing how it goes! ;)
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so I started at the back or end of the Cocaine listings and started with a new vendor,"WhiteDreams, and politely sent him this message:
"Hello ,
Just wondering since you're so close to the source, do you know if your bricks are being cut with Levamisole. Are you testing for it? Its a pretty nasty cut in terms of side effects over the long haul. Thanks in advance
MarcoRuas"
I'll post the reply if I get one. BTW, I personally don't want to become a chemist to infrequently sniff a few lines of BLO. I just don't have the time.
WHITEDREAMS has replied:
"They havent been in the past however i currently to not have a lab test. Its been probably 6 months since we got a lab test on the product. If u want try a small order for a sample?"
And I replied:"The problem is I'm not set up to test for that cut either. I'm sure your product is very good. The thing is, levamisole, doesn't take away from the effects of the cocaine. If anything, it somewhat enhances it,but at a price. What's happening now is that as consumers, we are becoming more aware(or paying closer attention to) of the adulterants used in cocaine. Why the people at the top of the food chain would want to add this poison is beyond me and a lot of other people here on SR. Oh wait...GREED!! "Google" it and you'll understand why some if not most of us are up in arms.
Bottom line, if you could provide Levamisole free cocaine,and prove it, I think with out a doubt your sales will be even better. Especially here on SR. Thanks for responding.
MarcoRuas"
Dialogue continues...
WhiteDreams" I respect your concern and i will try to check into this, there is places " undergroundd or corrupt labs" that will test or product accurately. I will keep u updated and if u have any future ideas please let me know.
MarcoRuas."Thank you for your responses. I will let the people know
MarcoRuas"
WhiteDreams is a new cola vendor who "appears" open to suggestion and investigation.
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@ Tesselated, how do you propose vendors assess the coke they get, as it's pretty clear from PineappleLove's thread that a large proportion of the vendors appear to have no other methods available to them other than EZ tests and the like
LSD is hard to test too, but we still manage to sell clean stuff. I beleive it is the duty of a vendor to know what is in the drugs they are selling and to describe it properly.
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It seems many of you haven't seen this thread:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108950.0
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wow very informative Marco. I don't even like cocaine but I like to know about the world drug market.
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I got a great answer from a venuzalan vendor named Rizzuto about levamisole. 8)
He said that the coca labs are out in the bush which is usually cattle country owned by the cartels.
Other 'cuts' are hard to come by, but this worming agent that the farms have sacks of, and is pure white and sparkles like coke makes it highly convenient! He also said there was "another 'good' reason" it was used, but he wouldn't go into that.
He says his cola is levamisole free!
N.B Using ethanol WILL REMOVE THE BULK of the levamisole, maybe not 100% but definitely more than 80%, so say in 10gms of coke you have 20% levamisole = 2 gms, after "washing with ethanol" you will only have 0.4gms amonngst the 10gms ... and "ethylecognine" IS active AND non toxic! 8)
It's definitely they way I'd go to remove the stuff, Just mix the coke with a small amount of ethanol (polish pure spirit, at 180% proof =90% alcohol will do) maybe 3mls per gm.
The coke WONT DISSOLVE IN alcohol, ONLY the levamisole will, pour the liquid/coke mix through a filter paper (only unbleached coffee filters although lag grade is far superior) or a fine cloth, discard the liquid and the solids left will be much 'cleaner' cocaine!
And enjoy! ;D
m m m motek
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I got a great answer from a venuzalan vendor named Rizzuto about levamisole. 8)
He said that the coca labs are out in the bush which is usually cattle country owned by the cartels.
Other 'cuts' are hard to come by, but this worming agent that the farms have sacks of, and is pure white and sparkles like coke makes it highly convenient! He also said there was "another 'good' reason" it was used, but he wouldn't go into that.
He says his cola is levamisole free!
I'm pretty sure I said that there are many cattle ranches in South America and that's where it is being used. Oh yes, I did. He just confirmed the statement that I made in the beginning of the thread. :P
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I must've missed your comment Jack but you were on the money with your comment
How's life bro? All good? :D
take care all
m m m motek :)
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I must've missed your comment Jack but you were on the money with your comment
How's life bro? All good? :D
take care all
m m m motek :)
Everything is swell M m m m mmmotek.
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I think we can all agree that Levamisole is a nasty cut, but as a few have already pointed out, it is not the vendor who mix in the Leva, it is the cartels, so there is really no reason to go on such a temper tantrum!
Hmm, just skimmed the thread, so i'm sorry if this have been pointed out already, but i am quite curious as to why OP changed the values in the lab results.
In the lab thread PineAppleLove have posted this result:
Published on: April 26 2013
Tested by: PineappleLove
Vendor: 10toes
Listed as: "Premium Fishscale Cocaine"
Purchasing method: Anonymous
Results:
58% Cocaine
20% Levamisole
6% Caffeine
(Source: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=108950.0)
But OP states the result as being:
Published on: April 26 2013
Tested by: PineappleLove
Vendor: 10toes
Listed as: "Premium Fishscale Cocaine"
Purchasing method: Anonymous
Results:
48% Cocaine
46% Levamisole
6% Caffeine
Looks like a gross exaggeration, by OP, but i cant figure out if he is doing this to discredit the vendor more than usually, or if it is because he figures he will get more responses with his own made up numbers :o
Any thought on this?
For those seeking to clean up their coke, you can find some techniques here: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/317605-cocaine-purification-the-absolute-final-thread
I havent tried all the techniques, but usually i do one or two acetone washes, and perhaps an ethanol wash.
Regarding Magnesium sulphate to dry the Ethanol; Motek is probably right in saying that 90 minutes in the oven is good enough (He seems to be extremely knowledgeable), but usually i let them sit in the oven between 120-150 minutes. This might not be necessary but that is just the way i have always done it...
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There is certainly alot of blow being sold on sr. Wouldn't it be in the cartels best interest to make sure their stock is totally free of all cut, whatever it is? It can't be that hard to send a message to someone to send a message to someone, get the idea? Its in their best interest to supply awesome product. You brick guys(you know who you are)can you send a message upline? We would prefer coke that is truly untouched. From the lab to the wrap, to my hands.
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There is certainly alot of blow being sold on sr. Wouldn't it be in the cartels best interest to make sure their stock is totally free of all cut, whatever it is? It can't be that hard to send a message to someone to send a message to someone, get the idea? Its in their best interest to supply awesome product. You brick guys(you know who you are)can you send a message upline? We would prefer coke that is truly untouched. From the lab to the wrap, to my hands.
Hahaha! I found this sooo funny! ;D So you believe that some of these vendors are even remotely close to the cartel? ;D And you think the chain is that small?? ;D ;D Cartels don't give a fuck about a person buying single kilograms like 50 people down the chain. They don't give a fuck about a single kilogram period. They don't care that the end user doesn't want a cattle deworming substance in it. They don't care if the street dealer doesn't want it in there either.
Send it up the chain 50+ people so the cartel can make a single pure kilogram for me LOL ;D
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Although I think you are overreacting a little mauiguy, and targeting a vendor 'specifically' for this cut in their coke is naive at best! Seriously it's common knowledge cutting often occurs higher up the food chain, so 'blaming' a vendor like this iis not going to make folks either 'listen' to what you have to say, plus it only makes you appear as an unbalanced hothead!
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It is most certainly the vendor's responsibility to know what they are selling and to accurately describe it. If you don't know what is in the substance you are selling then you have no business selling it. If it is stepped on you had better damn well point that out in the listing
Buyers deserve to know what they are getting.
I have noticed this sort of complacancy in the coke community in the past and the fact that people put up with it is why it keeps getting stepped on.
I am sure most people would rather pay the same price and get just the 40% coke without the additives. Informed customers don't need to be fooled with stepped on shit, that tactic is for street dealing where there is no trust.
There are suppliers out there that cater to high end buyers who provide the straight dope, that would be the ideal source for the road.
Great Post.. I agree 100% vendors need to be more honest about what their selling. Blaming shitty quality product on a bad batch and similar excuses is total crap.
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what, somebody die and not tell me? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Who said anything about just a single key? Just you, lol.
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Who said anything about just a single key? Just you, lol.
Name a vendor that deals in multiple kilograms. ::) They wouldn't even go out of their way to keep 50 kilograms out of the 1000+ being smuggled at a time pure and specially marked for a customer way down the chain. It's not going to happen. Dreams are great though. They give you a good feeling. :)
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Bumping because it's a great thread!
I don't know about 10Toes. From looking at his page, it seems he's more the victim of a few whiny competitors, or buyers who either
(a) Can't accept the fact that their order might have been intercepted.
or
(b) Are just dumb.
Though the back and forth between everyone made the last hour of my at home detox, that much more bearable.
Cheers
soalone
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I thought lavamisole and benzacaine are all used to cut coke?
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damn
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Had to post this info I found on the uses, contraindications and potential adverse reactions of Levamisole. Here's a clearnet link to the page where I found this: http://www.mims.com/USA/drug/info/levamisole/?type=full&mtype=generic. My own brief analysis appears below the quote.
"levamisole
> Indication & Dosage
> Administration
> Contraindications
> Special Precautions
> Adverse Drug Reactions
> Drug Interactions
> Pregnancy Category (US FDA)
> Mechanism of Action
> MIMS Class
> ATC Classification
Related Information
See related levamisole information Abbreviation Index
Indication & Dosage Oral
Ascariasis
Adult: 150 mg as a single dose.
Child: 3 mg/kg as a single dose.
Oral
Mixed ascariasis-hookworm infections
Adult: 2.5 mg/kg as a single dose, repeated after 7 days in severe cases.
Child: 2.5 mg/kg as a single dose, repeated after 7 days in severe cases.
Oral
Ancylostomiasis
Adult: 2.5 mg/kg as a single dose, repeated after 7 days in severe cases.
Child: 2.5 mg/kg as a single dose, repeated after 7 days in severe cases.
Administration Should be taken with food. Take w/ meals to minimise side effects eg nausea.
Contraindications Preexisting blood disorders; pregnancy and lactation; rheumatoid arthritis; severe renal impairment.
Special Precautions Hepatic impairment, Sjogren's syndrome.
Adverse Drug Reactions Nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, abdominal pain, dizziness and headache. Fever, influenza-like syndrome, arthralgia, muscle pain, rash, taste disturbances and cutaneous vasculitis.
Potentially Fatal: Agranulocytosis, leucopenia, thrombocytopenia.
Drug Interactions May increase toxicity of phenytoin. Increases bioavailability of ivermectin; decreases bioavailability of albendazole. Alcohol causes disulfiram-like reaction.
Potentially Fatal: May increase toxicity of phenytoin. Increases bioavailability of ivermectin; decreases bioavailability of albendazole. Alcohol causes disulfiram-like reaction.
Click to view more levamisole Drug Interactions
Pregnancy Category (US FDA)
Category C: Either studies in animals have revealed adverse effects on the foetus (teratogenic or embryocidal or other) and there are no controlled studies in women or studies in women and animals are not available. Drugs should be given only if the potential benefit justifies the potential risk to the foetus.
Mechanism of Action Levamisole is the active laevo-isomer of tetramisole. It works by paralysing susceptible intestinal worms which are then excreted from the intestines. Levamisole also enhances cellular immune responses in humans.
Absorption: Well-absorbed from the GI tract. Peak plasma concentrations are achieved in 1.5-2 hr.
Metabolism: Occurs extensively in the liver.
Excretion: Mainly in the urine (70% as metabolites and 5% as unchanged drug) and small amounts in the faeces.
MIMS Class Anthelmintics / Cytotoxic Chemotherapy
ATC Classification P02CE01 - levamisole ; Belongs to the class of imidazothiazole derivative agents. Used as antinematodal."
What I found most interesting is that Levimasole combined with alcohol causes a disulfiram-like reaction. Disulfiram's commercial name is Antabuse, and it brings on an acute and unpleasant sensitivity to alcohol. So please be careful when combining coke and booze!! And here's where it get's even more interesting: "Disulfiram is also being studied as a treatment for cocaine dependence, as it prevents the breakdown of dopamine (a neurotransmitter whose release is stimulated by cocaine); the excess dopamine results in increased anxiety, higher blood pressure, restlessness and other unpleasant symptoms." If this is true, there is a delicious irony here, since it would mean cocaine manufacturers are undermining the very source of their profits, i.e., their customer's dependence on cocaine! Defeated by their own greed. And so it seems that the upsurge in Levimasole-laced cocaine is at least partially responsible for many of the negative symptoms cocaine users have been reporting since the end of the golden age of the 1980's.
Some may be thinking, hey wait a minute, more dopamine should mean more pleasure from the drug, right? Well, maybe, but my guess is that good, clean coke prompts the release of dopamine which is then appropriately broken down in the brain. It is the proper balance of dopamine with other neurotransmitters that provide the euphoria that cocaine produces. Simply flooding the brain with dopamine without properly breaking it down would be like stuffing yourself with way too much food, with no time to digest. In the case of overeating you get an upset stomach and indigestion. In the case of Levimasole preventing breakdown of dopamine, you get a haywire nervous system. Both suck.
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If in fact there was that much cut in the coke, then yeah, thats just wrong at every level. If it were me, I would attempt polite communication with vendor, if unsatisfactory result, then fuck it, don't deal with them ever again.
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I read that Most of the worlds cocain is now contaminated, i think by this levimisole, the article said it was a livestock dewormer. The article said that cows are made to graze and live in the areas where they grow the coca between crops, theyre manure giving nutrents to the next run of coca. So potentially it is in the coca plant. I believe i read that im time magazine.
sry if that has allready been mentioned i didnt read 6 pages
+1 motek
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Holy shit man, thanks for that. All I'm going to say about that ;D
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I'd be interested to see how you first approached the vendor.
If it was at all like the OP you just made, I don't blame her/him for the reaction that you got.