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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: aviator on April 26, 2013, 02:19 am

Title: How to change your identity to leave the US when youre a felon?
Post by: aviator on April 26, 2013, 02:19 am
Can somebody please help me with some info on this?
Title: Re: How to change your identity to leave the US when youre a felon?
Post by: itsthecops on April 26, 2013, 02:40 am
I'd like to know this too.

You can get great IDs but the question is do they work for getting a passport with them or crossing the border with them.  I seem some that have active magnetic strips.  It's the license number on the card that would worry me , which name comes up.

So if anyone could verify if fake IDs sold here would work for crossing the border or getting a passport with.
A Canadian vendor has great Ontario license with health card as 2nd piece. I think it's enough to get a passport with , or at least apply for a birth certificate. 

You'd need to know a name ( an identity) to steal.  This way all the name and numbers show up in the systems.
Title: Re: How to change your identity to leave the US when youre a felon?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 26, 2013, 03:15 am
I'd like to know this too.

You can get great IDs but the question is do they work for getting a passport with them or crossing the border with them.  I seem some that have active magnetic strips.  It's the license number on the card that would worry me , which name comes up.

So if anyone could verify if fake IDs sold here would work for crossing the border or getting a passport with.
A Canadian vendor has great Ontario license with health card as 2nd piece. I think it's enough to get a passport with , or at least apply for a birth certificate. 

You'd need to know a name ( an identity) to steal.  This way all the name and numbers show up in the systems.
You can't get a passport or cross a border with them.  If any government worker runs your info you will not come up.  If you are using a fake ID with a real persons information then a photo of someone else will come up.  You need your fingerprints taken to get a passport.
Title: Re: How to change your identity to leave the US when youre a felon?
Post by: itsthecops on April 26, 2013, 03:21 am
Um, I see.

Darn.  Now I honk in my mind, how the hell can I cut off the fingertips of the guy who I'm stealing the identity from ?

Cani find a lookalike like me?

As if. Damn


Thanks. 
Title: Re: How to change your identity to leave the US when youre a felon?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 26, 2013, 03:30 am
Um, I see.

Darn.  Now I honk in my mind, how the hell can I cut off the fingertips of the guy who I'm stealing the identity from ?

Cani find a lookalike like me?

As if. Damn


Thanks.
If you find someone that looks like you then you can kill them and take their identity.  I wouldn't suggest it.  You can even go to the DMV and get a legitimate license in their name.  If they have a passport then you can steal it.  If they have never had a passport and your fingerprints aren't on file then you can get a passport in their name.  I man with no family and few friends would be ideal.  I wouldn't suggest it though.  It wouldn't be fair to take someone else's life for your benefit.

I have seen a case where a man that did renovations killed a wealthy man and took his house and cleaned out his savings.  He didn't get caught for a long time until family members became suspicious when the dead man quit sending holiday and birthday cards with money inside.
Title: Re: How to change your identity to leave the US when youre a felon?
Post by: aviator on April 26, 2013, 04:11 am
Damn, it seems like it's going to be pretty difficult pulling this off. So you need a passport to enter any country leaving the US?
Title: Re: How to change your identity to leave the US when youre a felon?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 26, 2013, 04:26 am
Damn, it seems like it's going to be pretty difficult pulling this off. So you need a passport to enter any country leaving the US?
Yes.
Title: Re: How to change your identity to leave the US when youre a felon?
Post by: bull3gern on April 26, 2013, 04:27 am
Don't the passports have ID chips in them now? Is there any way to produce those under the table? I've wondered how I would escape the country if I needed to, and the only idea I've come up with (and it is probably useless) is to get to Mexico & "adopt" a new identity there, then travel from there as though you were a mexican citizen. Of course, this would involve learning at least 1 new language, then learning perhaps another (I'm thinking island-hopping in the Carribean). This subject brings up a book I read a couple of years ago called "How to Disappear" by Frank M. Ahearrn. It's both useful and entertaining, but first off, don't use a credit card to buy it (digital trail).
Title: Re: How to change your identity to leave the US when youre a felon?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 26, 2013, 04:35 am
Don't the passports have ID chips in them now? Is there any way to produce those under the table? I've wondered how I would escape the country if I needed to, and the only idea I've come up with (and it is probably useless) is to get to Mexico & "adopt" a new identity there, then travel from there as though you were a mexican citizen. Of course, this would involve learning at least 1 new language, then learning perhaps another (I'm thinking island-hopping in the Carribean). This subject brings up a book I read a couple of years ago called "How to Disappear" by Frank M. Ahearrn. It's both useful and entertaining, but first off, don't use a credit card to buy it (digital trail).
Yes they have RFID chips.  RFID chips can be reprogrammed if you know how.  Yes you could sneak into Mexico is lax.  They don't care about illegal Americans there.  I know someone who has a mother that lives on social security in Mexico because she couldn't afford to live in the states.  I also know an American that works in San Diego and lives in a highrise hotel with maid service in Mexico for like $80 a week.
Title: Re: How to change your identity to leave the US when youre a felon?
Post by: aviator on April 26, 2013, 04:39 am
Don't the passports have ID chips in them now? Is there any way to produce those under the table? I've wondered how I would escape the country if I needed to, and the only idea I've come up with (and it is probably useless) is to get to Mexico & "adopt" a new identity there, then travel from there as though you were a mexican citizen. Of course, this would involve learning at least 1 new language, then learning perhaps another (I'm thinking island-hopping in the Carribean). This subject brings up a book I read a couple of years ago called "How to Disappear" by Frank M. Ahearrn. It's both useful and entertaining, but first off, don't use a credit card to buy it (digital trail).
Yes they have RFID chips.  RFID chips can be reprogrammed if you know how.  Yes you could sneak into Mexico is lax.  They don't care about illegal Americans there.  I know someone who has a mother that lives on social security in Mexico because she couldn't afford to live in the states.  I also know an American that works in San Diego and lives in a highrise hotel with maid service in Mexico for like $80 a week.
Looks like I'm trying to go where your friends at lol
Title: Re: How to change your identity to leave the US when youre a felon?
Post by: bull3gern on April 26, 2013, 04:42 am
I had thought about living elsewhere numerous times, especially when I get the feeling that the USA is turning into the Soviet States of America.
Title: Re: How to change your identity to leave the US when youre a felon?
Post by: La Blue Girl on April 27, 2013, 03:02 am
My partner and I have spoken about this extensively.  While not felons, we don't want to be tracked out of the country, for personal reasons..

 There are a lot of ways out of the country... It just depends on how much money you have and if you ever plan to come back or not..

Simple least expressive.. Get down to a gulf coast state and get on a boat, buy boat pay to be on someone else boat... You can leave small marinas in the US and land in Small marinas / coast line or the such in Mexico, the Caribbean, Cuba, and South America..  If you bring down an ID like you said from Canada to a less developed country its not going to be an issue.. If you have cash and an income to live on and do not need to apply to work then its pretty simple.. Getting a work permit and such can be more tricky.. It really comes down to where in the world you want to go and just how legal you want to be there really..
Title: Re: How to change your identity to leave the US when youre a felon?
Post by: NorthWoods on April 28, 2013, 10:42 pm
Getting out of the country is one thing, but do you plan to come back in? That would be the harder part.
The best way (in my opinion) to get a fake identity is to pay someone who doesn't have a passport to give you their info.
There are also plenty of ways to cross into Canada or Mexico illegally, if you know the right people.
Title: Re: How to change your identity to leave the US when youre a felon?
Post by: sofish89 on April 29, 2013, 11:03 am
Yes Northwoods I second that, I know somebody from Mexico who doesnt have work papers here, he pays peole to sneak him back into mexico each year for the holidays so he can see his family and then to sneak him back here so he can work
Title: Re: How to change your identity to leave the US when youre a felon?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 29, 2013, 11:49 am
Yes Northwoods I second that, I know somebody from Mexico who doesnt have work papers here, he pays peole to sneak him back into mexico each year for the holidays so he can see his family and then to sneak him back here so he can work

I know people who've paid thousands to get into America through Mexico and that shit was a SERIOUS TASK.  They rode across Mexico in a legitimate greyhound type bus but the driver was fake in a fake uniform and everyone on the bus was an illegal with fake documents.  They had to emmorize their fake names and where they are supposedly from memorize what to say to the federales.  They federales question many of the passengers but didn't even give the fake driver a second glance.  One of my friends had to pretend another female on the bus was his sister and their fake names matched that story.  They had houses near the border they had to stay in and keep the lights off and not answer the door for anything.  Their shitty Mexican made shoes had no soles left after three days and nights through the desert.  Sometimes at night a light would appear and it would be bright as daytime out and they'd all scatter.  Other times they'd hear something and they'd be like "federales!" and scatter but it would turn out to be a cow lol. 

Once they got into the states they had the pleasure of riding in a trunk with four other people all the way to California.  A girl shit her pants in the trunk with one of my friends....  In California you go to a safe house with a few hundred illegals in it and they check their name to their list and call their family back home to wire the other half of the money (you pay half upfront) and they ask you what state you want to go to.  Then within that week you get ride in a car (in a seat) with other people to your destination state.

You pay half upfront and half once you get to the California safe house.  You get three chances before you have to pay again.  For example, if you get caught the first two times, they will still try to smuggle you in one more time before you have to pay again.

One of my illegal friends has worked in more than 15 Chinese restaurants across the US.  All of them operated the same way.  You live at the Chinese peoples house and you work all day every day and you get paid about $1,000 a month.

I wonder how the person you're talking about gets smuggled out and in.