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Title: Dealer tricks
Post by: Davey Jones on January 22, 2013, 08:39 pm
Here's some stuff I've seen;  people getting coke in rock form thinking its more pure because its still rocked up(, not always the case).  People can re-rock it in a press after what sometimes can be a significant amount of cut added.  I've also seen where people go solely by the numbness as a test if coke is good or not(I've seen guys use procaine and similar things that can cause numbness). On weed; I've seen guys take average street weed and hold it over boiling water in cheesecloth to get it moistureized and then throw it in an oven bag with orange peels for a day and badabing,, it weighs more from the extra moisture and smells good from the peels.  People that don't know about that will buy it and get shanked.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: TheGanjaMan on January 22, 2013, 08:50 pm
Good to know
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: estefi123 on January 22, 2013, 09:04 pm
Well that's interesting, you reminded me of a friend when started doing drugs he decided to buy on a party. Just cause some nigger offered for a very low price and this nigger was selling him "E" and he was popping it out of normal pills packaging lol.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: imarolla187 on January 22, 2013, 09:09 pm
my sisters ex told me how he sold tylenol as rolls to a whole group of partiers. the sad part is he said that they called him after about a hour and wanted more cause they liked them so much! sad sad lol. he was a real piece of shit.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: NorthState on January 22, 2013, 09:25 pm
Selective scamming is one of the dealer tricks to increase profits.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: futura on January 23, 2013, 02:13 am
Some dealers selctively scam...especilay Heroin Dealers!!
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: MaoZedong on January 23, 2013, 02:21 am
Yeah another one to watch out for is dealers calibrating their 1000g scale with a 900g weight because then .9 will read as 1g. You should either
A. check their scale with a US $20 bill and make sure it weighs a gram
B. Use your own scale
C. Buy from silkroad followed by step B. 8)
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: tkblank1 on January 23, 2013, 02:30 am
Definitely easy to substitute one pill for another, especially if the deal is taking place somewhere that the buy can't look up the pill imprint.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: MaoZedong on January 23, 2013, 02:37 am
Oh yeah, also i've never seen this in real life but I know JimmyBuffett added purple food coloring or something to his vials so they would fool the elrich reagent. So watch out for people trying to fool reagents.
I actually read a thread on bluelight of someone who was posting bunk pills with good results to PR as some kind of marketing scheme so wait for a few confirmed pill reports.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: Oberon on January 23, 2013, 02:41 am
id say the worst trick is the dealer being LE
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: sinbaby on January 23, 2013, 03:15 am
Here's some stuff I've seen;  people getting coke in rock form thinking its more pure because its still rocked up(, not always the case).  People can re-rock it in a press after what sometimes can be a significant amount of cut added.  I've also seen where people go solely by the numbness as a test if coke is good or not(I've seen guys use procaine and similar things that can cause numbness). On weed; I've seen guys take average street weed and hold it over boiling water in cheesecloth to get it moistureized and then throw it in an oven bag with orange peels for a day and badabing,, it weighs more from the extra moisture and smells good from the peels.  People that don't know about that will buy it and get shanked.

Your absolutely right about the coke, often coke dealers re-rock by using acetone and mix in amps, ethylphendiate, dimethocaine, and a myriad of RC's. People mistake the nail-polish smell (the acetone) is a sign off some fire blow, because its gone through a acetone wash, but its more likely that dealers use it to re-rock for cutting agents. Only users who actually care about the shit they put their nose go through the effort to perform an acetone wash. Also,  numbing agents are added such as benzocaine and it mimics the look of quality coke as well. So too much numbing is a bad sign, and if your rail it and it stings like a bitch, its definitely cut. Last but not least, it has been reported that most coke before it is even shipped out from columbia, peru, bolivia or what not, the coca producers already put in a de-worming substance called levamisole into the kilos. Ratio is like 90% cocaine, 10% levamisole. This substance is extremely detrimental to health, especially for frequent users because it eats away the skin and people become prone to autoimmune diseases.

As for weed, I've seen scumbag dealers spray their plant with laundry detergent so it weighs more and when its dried, it becomes covered with speckles that mimic the tricomb crystals. It also mimics the sticky-ickyness of bomb herb that has been freshly harvested. Easy way to detect sprayed weed is that when you smoke it, it tastes disgusting..almost soapy. It's very throat punching, especially if you take bong hits. Another way to detect sprayed weed is by rubbing the buds on a cd disc and see if any crystals actually flake off. You can also find out if your dealer is fcking you if your weed starts to become moldy when you leave your stash in a air tight container.

worst trick of all is god damn E dealers selling pipe bombs, meth bombs as ecstasy. Even worse, selling fake caps/powders. I've seen loads of M1 capsules/powders flooding the market being sold as MDMA. Even encountered scumbags who've sold god damn placebo caps (probably just baking powder or sugar who knows) to stupid ass raver kids at festivals and events. These young ravers from this generation really ought to experience those crazy MDMA/MDA combo pills they had back in the day.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: Oil Wrestling on January 23, 2013, 03:27 am
id say the worst trick is the dealer being LE

Agreed ^
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: jcelio223 on January 23, 2013, 03:45 am
put orange peels in a container of weed and call it orange kush
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: Davey Jones on January 23, 2013, 03:59 pm
Those are just some tricks I've actually seen people do.  Pretty sad.  Its not like they weren't making any money either, just greed.  I have seen guys put over fifty percent cut on coke at ounce level, move it.  Then the guys that ended up with the eight balls cut it again before they sold half grams. People still got plenty high too  Then some people think by cooking it you can tell.  That only works with certain types of cuts.  Alot of people don't realize how good, good coke is, and how strong.  I still have yet to find the real untouched product, I know its out there somewhere. I had some stuff before, years ago, that was just unreal, so I know how good it really can get, one little bump the size of a matchhead and your friggin high for over an hour, the lines don't burn, you hardly notice the comedown.  On the weed, I've seen people spray shit down with formaldehyde too, that shit is dangerous, or they dust it(pcp) a little and call it super weed or something.  Blotter acid alot of times has strycnine on it, and speed mixed with the lsd, too much strycnine and you can feel it in your bones.  I just figure if people are gonna pay top prices they oughta at least get top quality every time and not get messed with by getting some product that isn't tampered with.  There's ways of cutting crack too.  Alot of people think rock is pure cuz its cooked.  Speed can be mixed with alot of shit.  I've known of people to take dilauded and grind it up, mix it with a little laxative, sell it as dope.  I'm not pointing fingers at any one person, there are some reputable folks out there that have quality.  I just don't want the bullshit. People need to know what to look for in a product and deal with the real pirates so to speak.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: Chopper on January 23, 2013, 04:23 pm
I still have yet to find the real untouched product, I know its out there somewhere.

Be sure to report if you ever find it  ;D.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: newton on January 23, 2013, 04:57 pm
Well that's interesting, you reminded me of a friend when started doing drugs he decided to buy on a party. Just cause some nigger offered for a very low price and this nigger was selling him "E" and he was popping it out of normal pills packaging lol.

Safety is key on this forum. You do realize that by saying "nigger" you immediately tell everyone you're from the US. And, that you're stupid.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: wearetheresearch on January 23, 2013, 05:10 pm
I've heard if you mix methamp with methylone it will appear as MDMA on certain reagent kits...  Dont know the how exactly.. I guess all it needs to test positive is the methyl and amphetimine aspect of the chemical?
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: -PEAt on January 23, 2013, 06:21 pm
As for weed, I've seen scumbag dealers spray their plant with laundry detergent so it weighs more and when its dried, it becomes covered with speckles that mimic the tricomb crystals.

A few years ago in London there were dealers doing this with fiber glass and other products that could lead to lung infections and silicosis.   It became known as "gritweed".  To avoid: "The surest method seems to involve testing the weed by placing a very small amount in your mouth and running it over your teeth / tongue.  If you feel a gritty sand like residue when you clench your teeth together then chances are you are dealing with gritweed (probably the silica or road paint contaminant variety).  If you don't feel any grit-like substance between your teeth but the weed tastes very sweet (sugary) then chances are it has been dusted with sugar to bulk out the weight." -gritweed.co.uk

Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: iamonsilkroad on January 23, 2013, 07:38 pm
As for weed, I've seen scumbag dealers spray their plant with laundry detergent so it weighs more and when its dried, it becomes covered with speckles that mimic the tricomb crystals.

A few years ago in London there were dealers doing this with fiber glass and other products that could lead to lung infections and silicosis.   It became known as "gritweed".  To avoid: "The surest method seems to involve testing the weed by placing a very small amount in your mouth and running it over your teeth / tongue.  If you feel a gritty sand like residue when you clench your teeth together then chances are you are dealing with gritweed (probably the silica or road paint contaminant variety).  If you don't feel any grit-like substance between your teeth but the weed tastes very sweet (sugary) then chances are it has been dusted with sugar to bulk out the weight." -gritweed.co.uk

Ahh I remember this... Also soapbar hash! People will mix ANYTHING brown into hash sometimes, especially in Europe (from what I've read) making me super hesitant about grabbing hash off SR. Any suggestions for checking for bunk?
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: username10 on January 23, 2013, 08:49 pm
the worst is the coffee shops in Amsterdam central. they claim there selling award winning bud but thats bullshit. A real smoker will find no enjoyment from their weed, but is just relieved to be smoking openly.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: emptybanana1 on January 23, 2013, 08:57 pm
Selling fake acid is the #1 thing I see around here.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: ukmagic on January 23, 2013, 08:58 pm
good info troops
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: mrboombastic on January 23, 2013, 09:32 pm
Selling fake acid is the #1 thing I see around here.
Hasn't happened to me yet,thankfully
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: Davey Jones on January 23, 2013, 10:07 pm
Yeah, the fake acid scam has been around for years.  Now, with all the new RC's(research chemicals)out there, people can pass off some experimental shit. If people are willing to pay top prices they deserve top product, pretty simple.  If people realized the markup from wholesale to retail, its freakin sick, even without cutting shit.  A 2.2 brick is a thousand grams, without cut and just charging even less than 80$ per gram thats still double your money.  Some people just need to keep it real so to speak. 
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: raynardine on January 23, 2013, 11:08 pm
Even worse, selling fake caps/powders. I've seen loads of M1 capsules/powders flooding the market being sold as MDMA.

I really hate that. There's nothing wrong with methylone, but because street-grade "molly" is so cruddy and cut, pharma-grade methylone is often a distinctly better roll.

It's disgusting and fills me with quiet murderous rage.

Even encountered scumbags who've sold god damn placebo caps (probably just baking powder or sugar who knows) to stupid ass raver kids at festivals and events. These young ravers from this generation really ought to experience those crazy MDMA/MDA combo pills they had back in the day.

Agreed. Young candykid ravers should be allowed to experience a true roll, rather than being fed aspirin or even sugarpills.

Unfortunately, there are individuals who would sell sugarpills to children for 20 USD a pop.

Those are the type of individual whose neck I'd love to get my fingers around.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: Tarsus on January 23, 2013, 11:16 pm
I've seen and done the orange peal trick for weed. I was able to tell when some weed I bought once had this done to it as well. I've also heard of people using a banana peal because it doesn't make the weed as moist.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: KarmaLater on January 23, 2013, 11:24 pm
I have always heard of glass dust as something to watch out for but I'm not sure I've ever come across truly fucked up weed.  I have been finding what I think are... hairs? synthetic fibre? when I crumble weed from a particular source.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: 810offsuit on January 24, 2013, 12:00 am
Offering products at a heavily discounted price for Early Finalization
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: Davey Jones on January 25, 2013, 03:02 am
There are alot of ways dealers can possibly scam people while still providing real product and then there are dealers who are what I call real.  Those are the people I respect the most, they are straight up, no bullshit.  If the quality of their shit is a little down they tell you, if its superb, they tell you, and they adjust their prices accordingly and not try to make a killing off every sale.  All that nickel and dime bullshit, what a joke.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: Oirudeboy73 on January 25, 2013, 05:14 am
I've seen people hang bud over a boiling pot of water after they dried it out to much
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: surmer on March 31, 2013, 12:39 pm
Yeah another one to watch out for is dealers calibrating their 1000g scale with a 900g weight because then .9 will read as 1g. You should either
A. check their scale with a US $20 bill and make sure it weighs a gram
B. Use your own scale
C. Buy from silkroad followed by step B. 8)

D. A nickel ways ~5 grams.
E. Water weighs ~1 g/mL
F. Good drugs changes the weight of all matter.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: lagunka on March 31, 2013, 02:48 pm
Only two times I've bought mdma off the street I got sparkly off white powder that numbed my tongue and large rocks of ugly yellow M1 after being assured I would get only the best ecstasy after that I've strictly gotten my stuff off of SR. You can get benzocaine off amazon like 100 grams for 30 USD or something like that. Its the active ingredient in Orajel and other OTC oral pain relievers. It mimics the numbing of coke and I've seen many a dealer cut their gear with it. The fake acid scam happens all the time and it happened to me once. Bought 2 tabs and immediately tried them and they were extremely bitter, though I know real LSD is tasteless and odorless. I told the few other people that had bought the "acid" from the dealer that it was research chemicals and they freaked out, grabbed the throat and started screaming all rc'd out and took their money back and gave me my money back. Serves him right I guess.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: Davey Jones on April 07, 2013, 08:55 pm
Before I forget, people can also use a water/ammonia mix in a spray bottle and moisten their coke after being cut, then press it back together. Then its a product thats rock and smells too.  I just look for the bricks and anyone worth talking to will have a smaller sample size to try out before getting the bigger amount. 
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: Davey Jones on May 27, 2013, 08:42 pm
I'd say the most common drug some people fuck with is coke because there are so many cuts that imitate the numbing and can give a fake euphoria at first.  It isn't like there isn't enough coke to go around either.  There's people out there that are worrying about just moving it, no cut. They just wanna get rid of it so they can get more.  The selective scammers are the one's that irritate me the most because they build trust then hit people with some below grade underweight shit.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: bluecashew70 on May 27, 2013, 09:18 pm
in large quantities of reggie/swhag, i have heard dealers peeing on it then letting it dry out to make it sparkle
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: bluecashew70 on May 27, 2013, 09:20 pm
most molly is methlyone or 4mec
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: t-bone on May 27, 2013, 09:43 pm
Seen Dealers kidnap an Indian, throw him on a bunch of cushions and lock him in a wardrobe with 3 ounces of low grade weed. Then they sell the product as Hindu Kush.... be warned
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: Sooperknot on May 27, 2013, 11:31 pm
Makes you appreciate good friends you can trust, dunnit?
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: UptownBrown on May 28, 2013, 03:33 am
There are so many fukin tricks in this game, its impossible to spot them all.  Much easier to deal with someone honest, maybe pay a little more.  But that isn't always cake either
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: ACleverUsername on May 28, 2013, 04:22 am
I'm not trying to be rude here, but you cannot expect any businessman to sell at a loss. It simply doesn't work that way.

For instance - if I were selling coke, I would sell coke that I cut. Why? Because otherwise I won't make enough money to warrant (no pun intended) my ass ending up in the joint.

If I'm buying at $80/gram, I'm stepping on that before I send it out at $80/gram. If I (and most dealers) could get raw bulk (and therefore save excessive money), we would sell pure. All of the vendors on SR who have pure product are getting it in bulk (if not manufacturing it themselves in the case of certain goods). However, since we are but lowly mortals who don't have the capital (or the connections) to get blocks of raw at wholesale, we have to cut our goods to make a profit.

Now I will say this - there is NO excuse for selling M1 as MDMA, or stepped on nonsense as "raw". That's just bullshit, and any dealer who pulls that deserves what happens to him. If I had product cut, I'll say it's cut. If I cap a blend, I'll name it and break down the contents for any who ask. That's just good business.

If more sellers (of anything, really) would live by those standards, the Game would be a WHOLE lot different.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: nocountry2 on May 28, 2013, 08:20 am
I still have yet to find the real untouched product, I know its out there somewhere.

Be sure to report if you ever find it  ;D.

Ditto  :)
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: Davey Jones on June 01, 2013, 03:25 pm
The bulk vendors that have smaller sample type amounts for sale are the better ones to roll with.  Less chance of getting garbage.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: Devil1 on June 01, 2013, 04:03 pm
Here's some stuff I've seen;  people getting coke in rock form thinking its more pure because its still rocked up(, not always the case).  People can re-rock it in a press after what sometimes can be a significant amount of cut added.  I've also seen where people go solely by the numbness as a test if coke is good or not(I've seen guys use procaine and similar things that can cause numbness). On weed; I've seen guys take average street weed and hold it over boiling water in cheesecloth to get it moistureized and then throw it in an oven bag with orange peels for a day and badabing,, it weighs more from the extra moisture and smells good from the peels.  People that don't know about that will buy it and get shanked.

classic stunts here.  dont forget crushed glass in the weed to give it weight and "killer trichs"

just give me what i pay for weasel!
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: zxydwx3 on June 01, 2013, 04:07 pm
People spray ginger ale on their weed, it both adds weight and forms crystals when it dries out.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: 510monopoly on June 01, 2013, 04:19 pm
my sisters ex told me how he sold tylenol as rolls to a whole group of partiers. the sad part is he said that they called him after about a hour and wanted more cause they liked them so much! sad sad lol. he was a real piece of shit.

Or they were just bullshitting so they could meet back up with him to beat his ass lol
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: Devil1 on June 01, 2013, 04:23 pm
People spray ginger ale on their weed, it both adds weight and forms crystals when it dries out.

ahh....  thats a new one for me.
Title: Re: Dealer tricks
Post by: symbiotia on June 01, 2013, 04:36 pm
They are just shit cunts!
People that really want to sell their drugs, have a mountain of them, and don't want to cut anything.
They just want to find the people with enough money to buy all their shit! Not make more.