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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: Smashmouth on February 13, 2013, 06:59 am

Title: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: Smashmouth on February 13, 2013, 06:59 am
 There seems to be a shortage of dmt on SR. I dont know if the demand is just lacking, but a look over at the US vendors is pretty unimpressive. Prices are high and quality is terrible. Especially that yellow and brown stuff... thats not good product.

 One vendor claims to have 98% pure product, but its a strange color and I can't imagine why it would be.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: 46andtwo on February 13, 2013, 07:08 am
Why not just extract your own? It's pretty simple, and a google search will lead you in the right direction.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: Smashmouth on February 13, 2013, 07:17 am
Why not just extract your own? It's pretty simple, and a google search will lead you in the right direction.

There are a lot of reasons not to extract your own.

Its a shame that none is selling high quality product though.

It should be noted that the less pure products have some differences which may be preferred in their own way. I've heard that more plant materials can increase the bodyload against the usual cerebral rush.

Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: shred-the-gnar on February 13, 2013, 07:31 am
i got some really good demsters from DRshrooms the white fluffy kind
it was pretty intense stuff i liked it better than the yellow  kind
but i think the demand is low on the dmt
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: fjioowqijf on February 13, 2013, 07:54 am
i am interested in DMT I looked into extracting it myself but seems like the precursors are difficult to get right nnow
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: 46andtwo on February 13, 2013, 03:32 pm
i am interested in DMT I looked into extracting it myself but seems like the precursors are difficult to get right nnow
Precursors are all easy to get- everything is on ebay even the plant material (try Acacia Confuscia, aka formosa kahn). Pm me if you want more info, I don't want to spam up this thread. I can point you in the right direction.

Also @Smashmouth
There are also a lot of reasons to extract your own dmt, mainly cost efficiency, guarantee of purity, self satisfaction, etc. But I guess to each his own...and you're right there does appear to be a shortage here.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: Smashmouth on February 27, 2013, 06:07 pm
i am interested in DMT I looked into extracting it myself but seems like the precursors are difficult to get right nnow
Precursors are all easy to get- everything is on ebay even the plant material (try Acacia Confuscia, aka formosa kahn). Pm me if you want more info, I don't want to spam up this thread. I can point you in the right direction.

Also @Smashmouth
There are also a lot of reasons to extract your own dmt, mainly cost efficiency, guarantee of purity, self satisfaction, etc. But I guess to each his own...and you're right there does appear to be a shortage here.

 I understand your motivation to push extraction on new users. I also care about cultivating the base of the community and spreading knowledge.

 I don't want to get wrapped up explaining all the reasons why a user would choose to buy over SR... but I'll hit a couple points that I think are particularly relevant.

1. Purity...New chefs often yield dirty product... they may prefer buying well cleaned and well crystallized product that they would otherwise be incapable of yielding.

2. Cost efficiency... Will not favor an extraction if you are only looking for a small amount (which goes a long way with dmt). For extraction a user needs to invest hours of research, source chemicals and reaction-ware, and provide a safe environment and procedure for the actual work. If you purchase a gram of DMT of the silkroad you should be able to acquire high quality for 100usd. Thats going to be 20 blastoff doses... or 40 face melting doses at apprx 5usd or 2.5usd per hit and very little investment of time.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: dngdwn on February 27, 2013, 06:20 pm
Just ordered some of JOR's Source A DMT.
Only had one experience with DMT before and it was good product appeared a red-ish colour.
Hoping JOR's will be great quality, anyone got any tips on smoking it?
Was considering investing into a eagle bill shake and vipe pipe or are there better products or methods of smoking DMT out there?
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: Smashmouth on February 27, 2013, 06:56 pm
Just ordered some of JOR's Source A DMT.
Only had one experience with DMT before and it was good product appeared a red-ish colour.
Hoping JOR's will be great quality, anyone got any tips on smoking it?
Was considering investing into a eagle bill shake and vipe pipe or are there better products or methods of smoking DMT out there?

 Off colored product will have a potent effect... some differences that the occasional user enjoys... but white product is what you want. So clean and so powerful.

 If you smoke cannabis, just sandwhich your dmt into a bowl pack. Hit it lightly at first, and steadily harder until your smoking it as you would a normal pack of cannabis. Most folks will tell you to use three hits.... a light hit, a medium hit, and a powerful hit. This is because the dmt vaporizes at low temperatures and is much more active when heated efficiently. If you burn the product its going to taste harsh and work less effectively.

 If you don't smoke cannabis then you should look into a vaporizer alternative. The most popular model is probably the Vapor Genie.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: kgfcfdq on February 27, 2013, 07:11 pm
Extracting is the way to go unless there is some specific boundary which is stopping you. The materials needed (precursors isn't the right word, it's not a synthesis) can be found online pretty cheap. I ordered most of the stuff off Amazon, that may seem silly but I've never heard of anyone getting in shit for buying perfectly legal things from Amazon. For plant material you ideally want Mimosa Hostilis root bark, which is still legal (or at least grey area) pretty much everywhere. A simple straight to base extraction is childs play.

1. Lyse plant material using a strong base like sodium hydroxide (lye)
2. Separate DMT from aqueous layer by adding a non-polar solvent
3. Separate non-polar solvent from aqueous layer
4. Separate DMT from solvent (depending on the solvent there are different ways to do this, if you use naphtha for example you can free the crystals out, if you use xylene you can salt them out... or any clean solvent you can just evaporate it and the DMT will be left behind)

(in even more simple terms: add plant material to water, add lye to water, leave for a while, add solvent, leave a while, remove solvent and evaporate or freeze to get crystals)

*clearweb*
www.dmt-nexus.me

^ This is the place to go to learn how to do it. There are plenty of teks to choose from. I use a modified STB tek with xylene and lye and I usually end up with waxy off colour stuff, ranging from yellow to orange and once it was dark brown like chocolate... all of it does pretty much the same thing in my experience, and it's really easy to clean it if you are fussy.

If the cost of a sellers account wasn't prohibitively expensive for me at this time I would probably start selling it on here myself for about half the price people seem to be charging.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: dngdwn on February 27, 2013, 07:24 pm
Just ordered some of JOR's Source A DMT.
Only had one experience with DMT before and it was good product appeared a red-ish colour.
Hoping JOR's will be great quality, anyone got any tips on smoking it?
Was considering investing into a eagle bill shake and vipe pipe or are there better products or methods of smoking DMT out there?

 Off colored product will have a potent effect... some differences that the occasional user enjoys... but white product is what you want. So clean and so powerful.

 If you smoke cannabis, just sandwhich your dmt into a bowl pack. Hit it lightly at first, and steadily harder until your smoking it as you would a normal pack of cannabis. Most folks will tell you to use three hits.... a light hit, a medium hit, and a powerful hit. This is because the dmt vaporizes at low temperatures and is much more active when heated efficiently. If you burn the product its going to taste harsh and work less effectively.

 If you don't smoke cannabis then you should look into a vaporizer alternative. The most popular model is probably the Vapor Genie.

I am a cannabis smoker so the idea of sandwiching the dmt in between bud is appealing but would I not end up burning the dmt in the process or is there a certain technique to burning it so that the dmt is vaporized instead of just being burnt along with the cannabis? 
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: eskimoplea7 on February 27, 2013, 07:30 pm
you obviously know NOTHING about DMT if you think its better to buy crap off SR than extract it your self

ive been extracting myself for a couple years starting from a kilo of mimosa bark and getting about 17 grams of white crystal
and less than 15mg will have me blasting off when smoked correctly

having your own dmt on hand it great for changa and other methods
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: FuzzzyYak on February 27, 2013, 07:31 pm
The vendor you are referring to with the 98% pure DMT (rogerpete) , actually has very high quality DMT.

Ive bought from AddyQueenHashKing and that DMT was okay, but rogerpete's DMT is very impressive. I was getting breakthrough experiences off of 40mg, where it would normally take 50-55mg for me. The price is higher than it should be, but I still prefer rogerpete over anyone else.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: livestr0ng on February 27, 2013, 07:35 pm
for real. more DMT is needed on The Road.
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If the cost of a sellers account wasn't prohibitively expensive for me at this time I would probably start selling it on here myself for about half the price people seem to be charging.

that'd be awesome. if your stuff is good, I'd bet you'd make your money back easily. plus with low competition, you should be A-okay. I'm not a marketing genius or trying to manipulate you or anything...just saying.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: graffix on February 27, 2013, 08:06 pm
WEll it looks like rogerpete sells some good stuff, I;ll be putting in a review when I recieve my product from him.

I was also going to make my own stuff but I always wondered about the purity of me doing it myself if I could get it nice..
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: Shy Guyy on February 27, 2013, 08:11 pm
i recently listed some more reasonably priced DMT. i forgot my password so i had to create a new account and now i am unable to post in threads i had originally started.

username is Shy Guy on SR :)
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: onetwothree on February 27, 2013, 10:16 pm

 One vendor claims to have 98% pure product, but its a strange color and I can't imagine why it would be.

I think we all probably know the vendor you're referencing and I had a good experience with them and the product itself, but it is the only DMT I've ever had. What is it supposed to look like?

that'd be awesome. if your stuff is good, I'd bet you'd make your money back easily. plus with low competition, you should be A-okay.

That's part of the "problem". It would have to be a high volume operation to do something like that. If it's really "the best" at half the price, all SR DMT would go through him. I'd imagine that's a whole bunch. That's a reason stated by rogerpete about his price increases. He simply could not keep up with demand. Maybe no one else can either and is why the prices are higher than they might be otherwise.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: Smashmouth on February 28, 2013, 12:07 am
Just ordered some of JOR's Source A DMT.
Only had one experience with DMT before and it was good product appeared a red-ish colour.
Hoping JOR's will be great quality, anyone got any tips on smoking it?
Was considering investing into a eagle bill shake and vipe pipe or are there better products or methods of smoking DMT out there?

 Off colored product will have a potent effect... some differences that the occasional user enjoys... but white product is what you want. So clean and so powerful.

 If you smoke cannabis, just sandwhich your dmt into a bowl pack. Hit it lightly at first, and steadily harder until your smoking it as you would a normal pack of cannabis. Most folks will tell you to use three hits.... a light hit, a medium hit, and a powerful hit. This is because the dmt vaporizes at low temperatures and is much more active when heated efficiently. If you burn the product its going to taste harsh and work less effectively.

 If you don't smoke cannabis then you should look into a vaporizer alternative. The most popular model is probably the Vapor Genie.

I am a cannabis smoker so the idea of sandwiching the dmt in between bud is appealing but would I not end up burning the dmt in the process or is there a certain technique to burning it so that the dmt is vaporized instead of just being burnt along with the cannabis?

Just use the flame gently at first. Youre trying to bring heat through the pack in a controlled way. The cannabis "screen" actually works very well for this and can be used more simply than a vaporizing pipe, IMO.

Practice will show you what to do, but again,
first hit, lightly
second hit, medium
last hit, hard

The intent is to vaporize the dmt.

Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: Smashmouth on February 28, 2013, 12:21 am
you obviously know NOTHING about DMT if you think its better to buy crap off SR than extract it your self

ive been extracting myself for a couple years starting from a kilo of mimosa bark and getting about 17 grams of white crystal
and less than 15mg will have me blasting off when smoked correctly

having your own dmt on hand it great for changa and other methods

You have a bad attitude and a rude demeanor. Your two years of kitchen chemistry does not make you superior to anyone here, and you should have taken the time to assess the context of the thread.

This was never a debate about extracting vs purchasing your dmt. The intent here is to communicate a shortage in the SR supply to potential suppliers, aswell as to communicate a warning about inferior product to potential buyers.

If you can't see that some people have circumstances which merit purchasing their dmt off of SR then I guess your mind is just defective.

Also, 15mg makes you a lightweight.


Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: GemStoneMarket on February 28, 2013, 12:38 am
Hey guys :-) I'm a new Australian vendor here, but I do like to escape reality once a month like us all!

AussieDMT should not be overlooked as an international vendor.. He is my soul source of personal DMT. I've tried DMT, changa, smokeable shrooms, lsd, everything - I chose his shit to escape with. Look into his vendor page - I'm not sure where he ships, but he has the most unique form of DMT I've smoked/snorted.

It takes me to my pattern paradise :)
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on February 28, 2013, 01:17 am
DRshrooms' white dimitri was amazing, it was my first time, so ive nothing to compare it too, but it was ultimate!
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: DanDanTheIceCreamMan on February 28, 2013, 01:37 am
I just have a quick question for someone who is more knowledgeable on dmt than I. which is the best quality the all white? and then brown and then yellow? I smoked brownish looking dmt and I find it hard to believe there is anything more potent than that but if there is I would definitely like to know about it and I would definitely like to buy some. Thanks in advance for anyone who can help.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: GemStoneMarket on February 28, 2013, 01:51 am
I get whiteish-yellow from an aussie vendor, it was the best I ever orderd, I get it by the quarter now. you can roll dmt into joints' wastes a bit but it can be shared. I usually do 4 blunts, 40mg per blunt
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: DanDanTheIceCreamMan on February 28, 2013, 01:57 am
And also what is the difference between 4-aco-dmt, 5-meo-dmt, and dmt?
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: dngdwn on February 28, 2013, 02:01 am
Just ordered some of JOR's Source A DMT.
Only had one experience with DMT before and it was good product appeared a red-ish colour.
Hoping JOR's will be great quality, anyone got any tips on smoking it?
Was considering investing into a eagle bill shake and vipe pipe or are there better products or methods of smoking DMT out there?

 Off colored product will have a potent effect... some differences that the occasional user enjoys... but white product is what you want. So clean and so powerful.

 If you smoke cannabis, just sandwhich your dmt into a bowl pack. Hit it lightly at first, and steadily harder until your smoking it as you would a normal pack of cannabis. Most folks will tell you to use three hits.... a light hit, a medium hit, and a powerful hit. This is because the dmt vaporizes at low temperatures and is much more active when heated efficiently. If you burn the product its going to taste harsh and work less effectively.

 If you don't smoke cannabis then you should look into a vaporizer alternative. The most popular model is probably the Vapor Genie.

I am a cannabis smoker so the idea of sandwiching the dmt in between bud is appealing but would I not end up burning the dmt in the process or is there a certain technique to burning it so that the dmt is vaporized instead of just being burnt along with the cannabis?

Just use the flame gently at first. Youre trying to bring heat through the pack in a controlled way. The cannabis "screen" actually works very well for this and can be used more simply than a vaporizing pipe, IMO.

Practice will show you what to do, but again,
first hit, lightly
second hit, medium
last hit, hard

The intent is to vaporize the dmt.

Thanks for the advice saved me some money on shelling out of a vaporizer pipe that would have probably been a waste of money!
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: jerrys finger on February 28, 2013, 02:03 am
Hoping JOR's will be great quality, anyone got any tips on smoking it?
Was considering investing into a eagle bill shake and vipe pipe or are there better products or methods of smoking DMT out there?

Search the net for "the machine" and make your own vape pipe. Cheap, and efficient.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: dngdwn on February 28, 2013, 02:26 am
And also what is the difference between 4-aco-dmt, 5-meo-dmt, and dmt?

Someone correct me if i'm wrong by I believe 4-aco dmt is fairly similar to psilocybin and has been likened to shrooms but i've never taken it personally so can't judge for sure.
Also not 100% but i believe 5-meo dmt is dmt with a maoi added so that the drug can be ingested orally.
Your standard dmt is usually smoked and has a significantly shorter duration than the other two drugs.
Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: thumbprintfluff on February 28, 2013, 02:51 am
  I didn't read all these but it's probably due to the shortage of mimosa hostillas root bark..... Or the ban.?.?.   I'm on my last pound now.  I'd consider vending after I seen the low quality brown stuff here (STB) method. My stuff doesn't skip any processes and is rex'ed 2-3 times in heptane. It looks like crack (pure white crystalline) when done. If I could get the MHRB I would consider sharing my product.... I don't believe in selling dmt for prophit.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: DanDanTheIceCreamMan on February 28, 2013, 03:17 am
And also what is the difference between 4-aco-dmt, 5-meo-dmt, and dmt?

Someone correct me if i'm wrong by I believe 4-aco dmt is fairly similar to psilocybin and has been likened to shrooms but i've never taken it personally so can't judge for sure.
Also not 100% but i believe 5-meo dmt is dmt with a maoi added so that the drug can be ingested orally.
Your standard dmt is usually smoked and has a significantly shorter duration than the other two drugs.
Hope that helps!

Thanks that actually really helps alot. I remember reading something about the 4-aco-dmt being likened to shrooms and also saying that it looses it's potency quickly when moisture is introduced. And I've also heard ingesting orally lasts like 5 hours compared to the 20 mins if smoked.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: dngdwn on February 28, 2013, 04:25 am
And also what is the difference between 4-aco-dmt, 5-meo-dmt, and dmt?

Also you may find this thread helpful http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=125633.0
It compares the difference between dmt and 5-meo dmt
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: FuzzzyYak on February 28, 2013, 05:21 am
And also what is the difference between 4-aco-dmt, 5-meo-dmt, and dmt?

Someone correct me if i'm wrong by I believe 4-aco dmt is fairly similar to psilocybin and has been likened to shrooms but i've never taken it personally so can't judge for sure.
Also not 100% but i believe 5-meo dmt is dmt with a maoi added so that the drug can be ingested orally.
Your standard dmt is usually smoked and has a significantly shorter duration than the other two drugs.
Hope that helps!

4-AcO-DMT is very similar to mushrooms, except it is often described as "cleaner". Normally taken orally.

DMT and 5-MeO-DMT are quite similar. 5-MeO-DMT has a much more physical experience, more of a bodyload and rapid heartbeat. 5-MeO-DMT also lasts longer, strong effects even at the 30 minute mark. The visuals on 5-MeO-DMT are also quite disappointing compared to DMT. Many more people tend to dislike 5-MeO-DMT because the visuals aren't as good, plus the physical experience and long duration can be unpleasant.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: Smashmouth on February 28, 2013, 07:33 am
QUESTIONS ABOUT N,N,DMT: THE RELATION OF COLOR TO PURITY (and other considerations)

At the highest grades of purity your dmt will be translucent crystals or white powder. Snow white, very pure.

If there is color in your product then it is because there are byproducts of the extraction or synthesis mixed with your dmt.

In the cases of extractions, the color differentiation can vary between plants.... but yellow is a common example, especially from Jurema.
 Yellow product from an Jurema extraction contains fats and oils from the root (Its not harmful). Other plant sources may have harmful chemicals in them, like Gramine.
 From user experience, it would seem that the addition of fats and oils from the plant can diminish the cerebral rush of the dmt... but can also increase the body load significantly. (roll)

In cases of synthesis, there can also be color differences from byproducts. These byproducts will relate to the route taken for synthesis and I without that discernment I can't add much. You're certainly better with white product though.

As for brown product.... especially from Jurema... thats just nasty extraction goop mixed with dmt. The dmt will still get you going, but youll watch it melt away leaving behind nasty brown goo that burns and crackles. You definitely don't want to inhale this goo, its gross and highly basic. (Kitchen chemistry gone awry)

That yellow and brown product that was up for sale last week... and maybe this week.... is hardly product at all. That seller should take it down and refine it.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: thumbprintfluff on March 01, 2013, 01:40 am
^yeah^
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: Shy Guyy on March 01, 2013, 03:52 am
just listed grams of yellow DMT and half grams of eggshell DMT for 90$ a piece  ;D

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/f1745898f0
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: Shy Guyy on March 01, 2013, 04:31 am
sorry to spam but i just wanted to let you all know that prices will be knocked down to 80 until sunday!!
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: cabfare on March 01, 2013, 05:18 am
its seems a bit more difficult to find cheap bulk mimosa than used to be


shulgins recipe of making from indole  seems very possible  to obtain precursors

could tenfold it and make a qp or so..     make an easy 10grand  selling for 100 usd per gram   
i think there is demand for dmt but people are charging ridiculous amounts  like 200+ usd

thats like 10 dollars per hit?  for 15 min of stoned (OBE stoned but still..)

Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: woodyitson on March 01, 2013, 05:48 am
sometimes when there is something really special out there you shouldnt have to pay for it.
im older i was always taught when the time is right someone will bring it to you. it happened. it changed my life.
cost nothing, except saying goodbye to my old self. my friends call it going to church.
dmt
i base quality of psychedelics upon the way dmt makes me feel.
shed light.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: cabfare on March 01, 2013, 06:01 pm
And also what is the difference between 4-aco-dmt, 5-meo-dmt, and dmt?

Someone correct me if i'm wrong by I believe 4-aco dmt is fairly similar to psilocybin and has been likened to shrooms but i've never taken it personally so can't judge for sure.
Also not 100% but i believe 5-meo dmt is dmt with a maoi added so that the drug can be ingested orally.
Your standard dmt is usually smoked and has a significantly shorter duration than the other two drugs.
Hope that helps!

4-AcO-DMT is very similar to mushrooms, except it is often described as "cleaner". Normally taken orally.

DMT and 5-MeO-DMT are quite similar. 5-MeO-DMT has a much more physical experience, more of a bodyload and rapid heartbeat. 5-MeO-DMT also lasts longer, strong effects even at the 30 minute mark. The visuals on 5-MeO-DMT are also quite disappointing compared to DMT. Many more people tend to dislike 5-MeO-DMT because the visuals aren't as good, plus the physical experience and long duration can be unpleasant.

me and my associates have quite a bit of experience with all three

4-aco-dmt is similar to mushrooms  and according to experts such as dennis mckenna (whom i've talked to personally about this)   the chemical metabolizes into  psilocin (active ingredient in mushrooms)   
now i've never tried psilocybin ( which is also alleged to metabolize into psilocin in the body)  to note if there were any differences between the two   but i have done mushrooms and i've concluded there is destinct differences between the mushroom experience and 4-aco-dmt     (others who have tried both have said same to me)
so this could be due to it metabolizing differently than originally thought or maybe there is a different chemical in mushrooms that may effect the brain psychoactively in addition to psilocin (beocystine perhaps?)

5-meo-dmt is MUCH different than n,n,-dmt,    the similarities are that both are of short duration and both are commonly smoked, (except in epena or cohoba snuffs or accompanied by ayahuasca vine)  also the duration is very short ( dmt generally between 10-40 minutes)    also both are capable of easily putting one into an OBE state  with complete ego loss
some differences are the following    n,n,-dmt is impossible to overdose on, 5-meo-dmt it is not uncommon for people taking doses 30mg+ to have seizures and make absurd noises involuntarily,  n,n,-dmt is generally considered the longer acting  also even more so i would consider it longer acting because of the last statement  (i.e. you can inject a full gram of n,n,dmt   IM and trip for 3-4 hours   while 5-meo-dmt may kill you before being able to reach this duration),     5-meo-dmt is more tactile and less visual oriented than n,n,-dmt.    5-meo-dmt is generally considered stronger by mass,  n,n,-dmt is more popular as a recreational drug. alot of people find both terrifying, but more people find 5-meo-dmt terrifying 

any questions?
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: DanDanTheIceCreamMan on March 01, 2013, 07:10 pm
And also what is the difference between 4-aco-dmt, 5-meo-dmt, and dmt?

Someone correct me if i'm wrong by I believe 4-aco dmt is fairly similar to psilocybin and has been likened to shrooms but i've never taken it personally so can't judge for sure.
Also not 100% but i believe 5-meo dmt is dmt with a maoi added so that the drug can be ingested orally.
Your standard dmt is usually smoked and has a significantly shorter duration than the other two drugs.
Hope that helps!

4-AcO-DMT is very similar to mushrooms, except it is often described as "cleaner". Normally taken orally.

DMT and 5-MeO-DMT are quite similar. 5-MeO-DMT has a much more physical experience, more of a bodyload and rapid heartbeat. 5-MeO-DMT also lasts longer, strong effects even at the 30 minute mark. The visuals on 5-MeO-DMT are also quite disappointing compared to DMT. Many more people tend to dislike 5-MeO-DMT because the visuals aren't as good, plus the physical experience and long duration can be unpleasant.

me and my associates have quite a bit of experience with all three

4-aco-dmt is similar to mushrooms  and according to experts such as dennis mckenna (whom i've talked to personally about this)   the chemical metabolizes into  psilocin (active ingredient in mushrooms)   
now i've never tried psilocybin ( which is also alleged to metabolize into psilocin in the body)  to note if there were any differences between the two   but i have done mushrooms and i've concluded there is destinct differences between the mushroom experience and 4-aco-dmt     (others who have tried both have said same to me)
so this could be due to it metabolizing differently than originally thought or maybe there is a different chemical in mushrooms that may effect the brain psychoactively in addition to psilocin (beocystine perhaps?)

5-meo-dmt is MUCH different than n,n,-dmt,    the similarities are that both are of short duration and both are commonly smoked, (except in epena or cohoba snuffs or accompanied by ayahuasca vine)  also the duration is very short ( dmt generally between 10-40 minutes)    also both are capable of easily putting one into an OBE state  with complete ego loss
some differences are the following    n,n,-dmt is impossible to overdose on, 5-meo-dmt it is not uncommon for people taking doses 30mg+ to have seizures and make absurd noises involuntarily,  n,n,-dmt is generally considered the longer acting  also even more so i would consider it longer acting because of the last statement  (i.e. you can inject a full gram of n,n,dmt   IM and trip for 3-4 hours   while 5-meo-dmt may kill you before being able to reach this duration),     5-meo-dmt is more tactile and less visual oriented than n,n,-dmt.    5-meo-dmt is generally considered stronger by mass,  n,n,-dmt is more popular as a recreational drug. alot of people find both terrifying, but more people find 5-meo-dmt terrifying 

any questions?

That is extremely informative and I must say I'm very jealous of your conversations with the dennis. I've heard him on the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast before and he's a very interesting fellow full of wonderful "illicit drug" knowledge. I pretty much found what I was looking for in this thread with all you guys being so helpful. I would have been on the forums months ago if I had known about the noob-50 rule. The n,n,-dmt seems to be what I'm after. I've smoked it once before but it was a brownish color not the pure white. The visuals are what I'm looking for. Actually one last question. After smoking the n,n,-dmt you're supposed to just close your eyes, correct? That's what I did and I saw some unimaginable things in my minds eye.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: schmuckboy on March 01, 2013, 07:24 pm
There's been a huge shortage of mimosa hostilis root bark powder lately due to the DEA cracking down on it's distribution. despite this, I have found a website (mhrb-shop.nl) that sells very good root bark at very good prices. Shipping takes forever (like a month almost) but this site is totally legit! I've been making a lot of DMT lately of decent quality and I might consider selling on SR if a real shortage happens. The process of making your own is pretty easy though honestly, it just requires a decent investment.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: crunchytuna123 on March 02, 2013, 05:13 am
I recently had a solid transaction with rogerpete. His stuff is very pure and it arrived in four days. Excellent seller.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: thumbprintfluff on March 02, 2013, 11:02 am
 I'm watching dmt crystals forming right now. Beautiful!
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: jägermeister on March 02, 2013, 11:44 am
i've just made my first order on the road with "digna merces labore"
his dmt is supposed to be lab quality, and if i am to believe the customer reviews, this might actually be the case
only ships to europe though
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: elephantwalker1234 on March 02, 2013, 01:30 pm
good thred
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: cabfare on March 02, 2013, 05:35 pm
And also what is the difference between 4-aco-dmt, 5-meo-dmt, and dmt?

Someone correct me if i'm wrong by I believe 4-aco dmt is fairly similar to psilocybin and has been likened to shrooms but i've never taken it personally so can't judge for sure.
Also not 100% but i believe 5-meo dmt is dmt with a maoi added so that the drug can be ingested orally.
Your standard dmt is usually smoked and has a significantly shorter duration than the other two drugs.
Hope that helps!

4-AcO-DMT is very similar to mushrooms, except it is often described as "cleaner". Normally taken orally.

DMT and 5-MeO-DMT are quite similar. 5-MeO-DMT has a much more physical experience, more of a bodyload and rapid heartbeat. 5-MeO-DMT also lasts longer, strong effects even at the 30 minute mark. The visuals on 5-MeO-DMT are also quite disappointing compared to DMT. Many more people tend to dislike 5-MeO-DMT because the visuals aren't as good, plus the physical experience and long duration can be unpleasant.

me and my associates have quite a bit of experience with all three

4-aco-dmt is similar to mushrooms  and according to experts such as dennis mckenna (whom i've talked to personally about this)   the chemical metabolizes into  psilocin (active ingredient in mushrooms)   
now i've never tried psilocybin ( which is also alleged to metabolize into psilocin in the body)  to note if there were any differences between the two   but i have done mushrooms and i've concluded there is destinct differences between the mushroom experience and 4-aco-dmt     (others who have tried both have said same to me)
so this could be due to it metabolizing differently than originally thought or maybe there is a different chemical in mushrooms that may effect the brain psychoactively in addition to psilocin (beocystine perhaps?)

5-meo-dmt is MUCH different than n,n,-dmt,    the similarities are that both are of short duration and both are commonly smoked, (except in epena or cohoba snuffs or accompanied by ayahuasca vine)  also the duration is very short ( dmt generally between 10-40 minutes)    also both are capable of easily putting one into an OBE state  with complete ego loss
some differences are the following    n,n,-dmt is impossible to overdose on, 5-meo-dmt it is not uncommon for people taking doses 30mg+ to have seizures and make absurd noises involuntarily,  n,n,-dmt is generally considered the longer acting  also even more so i would consider it longer acting because of the last statement  (i.e. you can inject a full gram of n,n,dmt   IM and trip for 3-4 hours   while 5-meo-dmt may kill you before being able to reach this duration),     5-meo-dmt is more tactile and less visual oriented than n,n,-dmt.    5-meo-dmt is generally considered stronger by mass,  n,n,-dmt is more popular as a recreational drug. alot of people find both terrifying, but more people find 5-meo-dmt terrifying 

any questions?

That is extremely informative and I must say I'm very jealous of your conversations with the dennis. I've heard him on the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast before and he's a very interesting fellow full of wonderful "illicit drug" knowledge. I pretty much found what I was looking for in this thread with all you guys being so helpful. I would have been on the forums months ago if I had known about the noob-50 rule. The n,n,-dmt seems to be what I'm after. I've smoked it once before but it was a brownish color not the pure white. The visuals are what I'm looking for. Actually one last question. After smoking the n,n,-dmt you're supposed to just close your eyes, correct? That's what I did and I saw some unimaginable things in my minds eye.

oh, i might have given you the wrong impression.  we don't like.. hangout.  i just met him when he was giving a talk about his new book (which i have signed and numbered  btw =] )     and he gave alot of time for questions.  so i asked alot,  although he couldn't explain to me why bufotenin is active nasally but not intravenously.  according to neurologists the structure of bufotenin isn't supposed to cross the blood brain barrier. my assumption is that it can't, but it is actually a prodrug that must be broken down by enzymes in various mucus membranes.

the brownish color of your dmt is likely due to one of two things (or both)  it could be impurity of material (the material that dmt is generally extracted from is also used as a dye, giving a rustful red brown color,   or it could be that the dmt has been exposed to air too much for too long and it has oxidized.  either means a notable drop in potency.         where as  a pale yellow to white dmt is likely very pure. with good dmt and negating pyrolosis by heating at a low temperature (use a vaporizer or the glass vapor genie)   then 20-30mg  should bring you out of body and into a whole another place

      anyways to your last question  thats totally up to preference.  most the time i actually choose to watch my environment change in front of me to study the stimuli exploding into visions of magnificent things

if you have any more questions or want advice etc. about drugs (especially psychedelics)   than feel free to shoot me a message and i'll see if i can help

happy tripping  :)
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: CollegeHelper on March 02, 2013, 07:37 pm
We need more DMT!
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: Shy Guyy on March 02, 2013, 08:11 pm
i have grams of yellow and half grams of near white DMT both at 70$  ;D

vendor name Shy Guy
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: ozone on March 03, 2013, 12:30 am
Noooo someone please think of the psychedelics :'(
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: weed4me6969 on March 27, 2013, 01:36 am
Man i hope my shit comes quick!!!   waiting on addyqueenhashking.....will leave report when it arrives.
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: cake on March 27, 2013, 08:57 am
I can get behind more DMT on the road!

On that topic, anyone else get DMT with a slight floral scent?

Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: eskimoplea7 on March 27, 2013, 09:06 am
Extract your own DMT
Title: Re: Shortage of DMT on SR
Post by: PuffDaddy on March 27, 2013, 09:21 am
Yeah, pure DMT is hard to get. I started selling it a couple of months ago, and I'm having trouble meeting the demand. My aim is producing and posting small batches weekly, this way the quality is always top and fresh!