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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: IceIceBaby on March 18, 2013, 05:43 pm

Title: Ice Speed Pills
Post by: IceIceBaby on March 18, 2013, 05:43 pm
Hello SR Community,

I am curious if anyone knows (roughly) the amphetamine content of ICE speed pills.
I've had gone through a few batches of them this year, and I assume they are pretty consistently manufactured.

In case there is more variance that I realize, I'd like to know for the ones mrouid provides (from Canada).

I am particularly interested, because I read another post that included some good information about recommended amphetamine doses, for minimizing tolerance as well as long-term damage.

I`m relatively new to speed, and I'd like to get the best out of my usage.

If nothing else, I'll post the guidelines I have come up with for myself, in hopes that it may help other newbs (like myself).
I'd like to learn from others that are probably a lot more knowledgeable than me about speed usage though, and update accordingly.

ICE
Title: Re: Ice Speed Pills
Post by: IceIceBaby on March 18, 2013, 07:31 pm
Without further ado, recommendations based on my experiences:

Assuming no existing tolerance to amphetamines, a half a pill would be a good starting dose.
If you have little experience with stimulants, it may be a bit intense at first.

For me, the dose was just right (I experimented with 5-10 mg Dexedrine a couple weeks prior, but I wanted something a little stronger; I'd be curious to try 20mg of Adderall, but imagine I'd need at least 30mg to get where I want to be).

However, I find Rx amphetamines to be quite pricey.

Note:  I weigh ~175lbs (80kg), so scale to your weight accordingly.  From what I understand, there should little-to-no neuro-toxicity with anything less than a single 1mg/kg dose.

After a couple hours, euphoria turns to feeling of unease, for which I have two general strategies:
1)  Ride it out
2)  Re-dose

In either scenario, I find having alcohol on hand helps to take the edge off a bit.

If I re-dose the second half, I find it is not nearly as effective as the original dose (if you're going to re-dose though, it is probably ideal to do so, somewhere in the 2-4 hour range).  Binge users can re-dose every 2-4 hours for days, but I haven't gone that far; and don't think that's something I will be aspiring to...

I'm pretty sure you'd need to step it up to whole pills by your third dose, due to tolerance, and I don't know how how long that would remain effective.  I usually crush and snort for re-doses, which I find allows finer-grained control over your doses.

The pills are quite hard.  I use a manual hand grinder with metal teeth (head shops usually sell them to grind weed).
I generally need to split a pill in half on one of the teeth first (and even then it's a tough go).

That'll get it crushed down to small pebbles.  If anyone's tried the Pill Grinder that plutopete sells on SR.
I'm hoping to find a more easy-going solution.

For those new to powders, here's some pointers I've picked up over the years:
1) Use a smooth reflective surface, like glass; a mirror; the bottom of a CD, etc.
2) Clean it with glass cleaner (this will help prevent nasal infections)
3) Pour your pebbles onto the surface a lay a dollar bill over top
4) Take a thin plastic card and rub it firmly over the bill, crushing the pebbles underneath
5) Dice and sift through the powder with the card, and repeat until it's to your liking

I then measure the doses by continuously dividing the piles by two, until I have powdered lines that are about 1/8 of a pill each.
I'd start with an 1/8 up each nostril and then see how you feel.

Good things to sniff through:
1) A glass or metal tube (another typical head-shop item)
2) A rolled up dollar bill (or similar width paper)
3) Cut a straw in half

After the initial inhale, there'll still be a fair amount in your nose.  You'll probably need to take another few deep sniffs to get the rest up there over the next few minutes.  Best to get the over with before going back into the public (depending on setting). 

You should feel a little bit trickle into the back of your throat.  A great time to get yourself a drink.
This stuff is pretty gentle compared to other things I've sniffed.

At this point, it becomes a balancing act of reaching the height you like and maintaining it, while keeping in mind how much you have left and when you're ready to wind the session down.

I like to reduce the amount on the last few doses (i.e. take the last two eighths as singles rather than doubles).

I find that going through any more than 2 pills in a night leaves me feeling like my heart has been overworked the next day.
It may be an uncomfortable feeling, but don't panic.  You'll just need to take it easy the next day.

You may also consider smoking pot or taking a benzo at the end of the night.  I will likely experiment with the liquid alprazolam (xanax) solution that canadiansunshine provides, in the relatively near future.  I don't have a lot of experience with benzos, but that looks like the best deal to me. 

Note: most of the benzos I've seen on SR are on the high-end of the therapeutic dose range (and not recommended to mix with alcohol).  The golden rule: start low, until you know what you're doing..

I don`t have any words of wisdom in terms of frequency, other than I like to take a day off after two consecutive days using, and taking a least a week off, every couple weeks.

I'll post again, when I add benzos to the mix.

ICE
Title: Re: Ice Speed Pills
Post by: Daninha on March 18, 2013, 08:24 pm
COOL
Title: Re: Ice Speed Pills
Post by: panrumo on June 12, 2013, 06:38 am
Without further ado, recommendations based on my experiences:

Assuming no existing tolerance to amphetamines, a half a pill would be a good starting dose.
If you have little experience with stimulants, it may be a bit intense at first.

For me, the dose was just right (I experimented with 5-10 mg Dexedrine a couple weeks prior, but I wanted something a little stronger; I'd be curious to try 20mg of Adderall, but imagine I'd need at least 30mg to get where I want to be).

However, I find Rx amphetamines to be quite pricey.

Note:  I weigh ~175lbs (80kg), so scale to your weight accordingly.  From what I understand, there should little-to-no neuro-toxicity with anything less than a single 1mg/kg dose.

After a couple hours, euphoria turns to feeling of unease, for which I have two general strategies:
1)  Ride it out
2)  Re-dose

In either scenario, I find having alcohol on hand helps to take the edge off a bit.

If I re-dose the second half, I find it is not nearly as effective as the original dose (if you're going to re-dose though, it is probably ideal to do so, somewhere in the 2-4 hour range).  Binge users can re-dose every 2-4 hours for days, but I haven't gone that far; and don't think that's something I will be aspiring to...

I'm pretty sure you'd need to step it up to whole pills by your third dose, due to tolerance, and I don't know how how long that would remain effective.  I usually crush and snort for re-doses, which I find allows finer-grained control over your doses.

The pills are quite hard.  I use a manual hand grinder with metal teeth (head shops usually sell them to grind weed).
I generally need to split a pill in half on one of the teeth first (and even then it's a tough go).

That'll get it crushed down to small pebbles.  If anyone's tried the Pill Grinder that plutopete sells on SR.
I'm hoping to find a more easy-going solution.

For those new to powders, here's some pointers I've picked up over the years:
1) Use a smooth reflective surface, like glass; a mirror; the bottom of a CD, etc.
2) Clean it with glass cleaner (this will help prevent nasal infections)
3) Pour your pebbles onto the surface a lay a dollar bill over top
4) Take a thin plastic card and rub it firmly over the bill, crushing the pebbles underneath
5) Dice and sift through the powder with the card, and repeat until it's to your liking

I then measure the doses by continuously dividing the piles by two, until I have powdered lines that are about 1/8 of a pill each.
I'd start with an 1/8 up each nostril and then see how you feel.

Good things to sniff through:
1) A glass or metal tube (another typical head-shop item)
2) A rolled up dollar bill (or similar width paper)
3) Cut a straw in half

After the initial inhale, there'll still be a fair amount in your nose.  You'll probably need to take another few deep sniffs to get the rest up there over the next few minutes.  Best to get the over with before going back into the public (depending on setting). 

You should feel a little bit trickle into the back of your throat.  A great time to get yourself a drink.
This stuff is pretty gentle compared to other things I've sniffed.

At this point, it becomes a balancing act of reaching the height you like and maintaining it, while keeping in mind how much you have left and when you're ready to wind the session down.

I like to reduce the amount on the last few doses (i.e. take the last two eighths as singles rather than doubles).

I find that going through any more than 2 pills in a night leaves me feeling like my heart has been overworked the next day.
It may be an uncomfortable feeling, but don't panic.  You'll just need to take it easy the next day.

You may also consider smoking pot or taking a benzo at the end of the night.  I will likely experiment with the liquid alprazolam (xanax) solution that canadiansunshine provides, in the relatively near future.  I don't have a lot of experience with benzos, but that looks like the best deal to me. 

Note: most of the benzos I've seen on SR are on the high-end of the therapeutic dose range (and not recommended to mix with alcohol).  The golden rule: start low, until you know what you're doing..

I don`t have any words of wisdom in terms of frequency, other than I like to take a day off after two consecutive days using, and taking a least a week off, every couple weeks.

I'll post again, when I add benzos to the mix.

ICE

Thank you for your review! How have they treated you since, and when/what do you usually use them for (partying, studying.. etc)?