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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: CapitalG25 on April 12, 2013, 06:57 am
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Why do people even tolerate the sellers that demand you leave a 5/5 in order to receive your product?
What kind of bullshit is this?
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Because if you're dealing with an established vendor, there is almost no situation where you would need to leave less than that.
Some problems arise that are totally out of anyones control. Legit vendors recognize this and are typically more than willing to work with you to resolve the situation to your satisfaction. I've never ran into the need to leave less than 5/5, and I don't expect to. These ratings greatly affect a vendor, and a few high users who are angry that a problem occurred and are unwilling to work toward resolution can quickly damage a vendors rating.
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It seems to me like it defeats the entire purpose of a review and rating system.
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Not necessarily. The crux of the situation is that there are SOME situations where a lower rating is warranted. These are few and far between, as legit vendors will bend over backwards to satisfy their customers. People get impatient, don't go through the proper resolution channels, don't communicate and then leave a rating that wrecks an otherwise flawless record. This isn't an accurate assessment of a vendor and creates an inaccurate appearance.
You can leave a text comment along with the numerical rating, which can reflect that you had a problem but the vendor resolved it, which people do all the time when leaving 5/5. So, if going through reasonable procedures does not seem like something a person can bother themselves with, based on these comments you can choose to go through a different, less established vendor.
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Dont leave 5/5 if the product isnt good. Just say it straight.
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Dont leave 5/5 if the product isnt good. Just say it straight.
I was seriously reading the first post and was going to say the same exact thing. If a vendor asks you to post a 5/5 review he will give you 5/5 service. And if he is an arrogant prick who doesn't then give him.what he deserves. What is he going to do? Blacklist you. You shouldn't be wanting go waste your bitcoins to help his operation anyways.
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I don't like how a 4 out of 5 is a bad review. I take it into consideration when a vendor demands 5 out of 5 and I'd rather them not but its not a deal breaker.
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Because if you're dealing with an established vendor, there is almost no situation where you would need to leave less than that.
Some problems arise that are totally out of anyones control. Legit vendors recognize this and are typically more than willing to work with you to resolve the situation to your satisfaction. I've never ran into the need to leave less than 5/5, and I don't expect to. These ratings greatly affect a vendor, and a few high users who are angry that a problem occurred and are unwilling to work toward resolution can quickly damage a vendors rating.
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Not necessarily. The crux of the situation is that there are SOME situations where a lower rating is warranted. These are few and far between, as legit vendors will bend over backwards to satisfy their customers. People get impatient, don't go through the proper resolution channels, don't communicate and then leave a rating that wrecks an otherwise flawless record. This isn't an accurate assessment of a vendor and creates an inaccurate appearance.
You can leave a text comment along with the numerical rating, which can reflect that you had a problem but the vendor resolved it, which people do all the time when leaving 5/5. So, if going through reasonable procedures does not seem like something a person can bother themselves with, based on these comments you can choose to go through a different, less established vendor.
Absofuckinglutely! 8) Sedgeandbee IS SPOT ON with their comments 8) 8) 8)
and ALL you noobs who think otherwise WILL just find out the 'hard way' and you'll be SOL when you figure it out by READING THE FORUM...esp The Rumor Mill and check out the vendors ....dont JUST rely on their ratings ::)
Go hard kids, us old cunts dont know shit :(
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Not necessarily. The crux of the situation is that there are SOME situations where a lower rating is warranted. These are few and far between, as legit vendors will bend over backwards to satisfy their customers. People get impatient, don't go through the proper resolution channels, don't communicate and then leave a rating that wrecks an otherwise flawless record. This isn't an accurate assessment of a vendor and creates an inaccurate appearance.
You can leave a text comment along with the numerical rating, which can reflect that you had a problem but the vendor resolved it, which people do all the time when leaving 5/5. So, if going through reasonable procedures does not seem like something a person can bother themselves with, based on these comments you can choose to go through a different, less established vendor.
I am living proof of what you are saying. Just opened my store and ran into a scam buyer. We had a little growing pain as a start up and I made amends by sending this guy free shit that he claimed didn't arrive when I tracked the package the whole way, gave me a low score and then changed it even lower after I pulled his scam card on the forums. It is what is is, I don't stress one crazy buyer. It actually helped me in a few ways, It attracted attention which attracted some more sales, and if it scared anyone away then those are people I don't want business from in the first place. You can easily read the confrontation I made public with him on the forums, and u can see by his review where he gives everything a good score then gave me an overall rating of 1/5 that something don't add up. Some buyers really take the score to heart, I really don't, if you want to do business with me you can check with the modest amount of reviews and customers that I have had the pleasure to do business with.
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i hate feeling bullied into leaving 5/5... I try to leave a detailed review (good or bad) so others can judge from my experiences. I dont like that anything below 5/5 might as well be 1/5...sometimes (not very often, ime) you just don't deserve all the points! I think it would be nice to have a way to give the vendors that go above & beyond a bit more credit than the guy that just did an ok job. I don't want to penalize the ok guy but above & beyond should get something to show he is superior. not really sure how to do this other than a long review, which eventually gets buried though.
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Luckily I am a smart enough noob to read all recent feedback and reviews in the rumor mill but unfortunately I may have run into a bad transaction. It could turn out good in the end but i am getting worried. I ordered from TopGear. His feedback was perfect when I ordered ands there were no negative reviews. He was responsive to my messages and he even sent a message saying he was sending the product on Thursday.
It is now Sunday and the order is still marked processing. I sent him a message on Friday regarding the order status not changing and then one late last night telling him to cancel the.order if he planned on shopping it Monday. Also some spotty feedback and reviews appeared right after I sent the order out. Ia am praying that he sent the order and was too busy to change the status and his lack of response is due to the fact that he tales the weekend off even though he was seen online after I sent my first message.
Overall I didn't freak out and send him a ridiculous amount of messages and am hoping it will get resolved Monday with the arrival of the product or the cancellation of the orders.. I woildbhave gone with my first vendor Kush but he was on vacation. :(
EDIT: also I don't think anyone should demand a 5/5 review because no one is perfect and if their service happens to falter below that range for some reason we deserve the right to give them the proper score. A 3/5 and a 4/5 isn't bad feedback. And a 99 score isn't bad either. As long as the buyer takes a look at the whole picture. If we are forced to write 5/5 every time the buyers who don't take the time to look will simply see perfect reviews across the board for the nest and worst of the top vendors.
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Yeah there is definitely some amount of merit to this complaint. Rating isn't everything in the end, though. I have gotten shit product from vendors with 100% feedback, and gotten great service from vendors with low feedback. I feel like the feedback is more a reflection of their reliability in general. For example, I've ordered bud from vendors that I didn't think was very good, but it looked pretty much like the picture and they had good shipping time and kept constant communication so in my opinion they still deserved a 5/5.
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i hate feeling bullied into leaving 5/5... I try to leave a detailed review (good or bad) so others can judge from my experiences. I dont like that anything below 5/5 might as well be 1/5...sometimes (not very often, ime) you just don't deserve all the points! I think it would be nice to have a way to give the vendors that go above & beyond a bit more credit than the guy that just did an ok job. I don't want to penalize the ok guy but above & beyond should get something to show he is superior. not really sure how to do this other than a long review, which eventually gets buried though.
I had the same thought about providing something extra for good service. On the streets I would tell you to tell your friends. On SR what you can do and should do if you run into a great vendor is basically the same thing. Find there thread, say something nice, spread the love! I'm sure most vendors would appreciate this, I know I would, and it definitely helps counteract the bogus buyers who have no respect for the system!
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sometimes (not very often, ime) you just don't deserve all the points! I think it would be nice to have a way to give the vendors that go above & beyond a bit more credit than the guy that just did an ok job. I don't want to penalize the ok guy but above & beyond should get something to show he is superior. not really sure how to do this other than a long review, which eventually gets buried though.
Ye s I mainly agree with what you say, however YOU CAN EDIT RATINGS/REVIEWS at a later stage Both up or down as you see fit ..
AFTER 'trying to resolve the matter directly with the vendor FIRST!' ;)
Do this and you'll be ok...vendors understand noob 'problems' and most will do their BEST to make things right 8)
I had a great vendor who eventually began to fuck people over (Ozcoldhorse) and his was destroyed by re-edits and people changing ALL their ratings ... probably took 2 weeks before he was gone ....without ONE ORDER AFTER his last massive review that told it like it was! 8)
BUT .... he WAS given a few weeks to sort things out ... although my last review I gave him a 3 I later change it to 1
Enjoy leaning "The Ways of The Silk Road" y'all ;)
p.s. and dissolvedgirl here's a +1 for giving a sensible, thought out answer ... you go grrrl! 8)
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Woild like to point to my last post and ask of anyone has comforting words for my vendor problem? Maybe past experience with the vendor even?
As far as the whole 5/5 thing goes I am going to stand my ground and give vendors the rating they deserve. I will talk with then first to resolve the issue but if they think they can make me give a 5/5 rating without deserving it then I don't want the right to buy from them. 5/5 vendors should be able to give 5/5 service...always. as far as the scam buyer I imagine those issues can be resolved by sr support and cab easily be pointed out on the vendor page as well.
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Dont leave 5/5 if the product isnt good. Just say it straight.
I was seriously reading the first post and was going to say the same exact thing. If a vendor asks you to post a 5/5 review he will give you 5/5 service. And if he is an arrogant prick who doesn't then give him.what he deserves. What is he going to do? Blacklist you. You shouldn't be wanting go waste your bitcoins to help his operation anyways.
Yep, thats about the sum of it. And if a vender is doin' his shit right, he shouldnt have to ask for a 5/5 review before it even ships. He should know his product is good enuf to bring back a 5/5 every time.
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i hate feeling bullied into leaving 5/5... I try to leave a detailed review (good or bad) so others can judge from my experiences. I dont like that anything below 5/5 might as well be 1/5...sometimes (not very often, ime) you just don't deserve all the points! I think it would be nice to have a way to give the vendors that go above & beyond a bit more credit than the guy that just did an ok job. I don't want to penalize the ok guy but above & beyond should get something to show he is superior. not really sure how to do this other than a long review, which eventually gets buried though.
I had the same thought about providing something extra for good service. On the streets I would tell you to tell your friends. On SR what you can do and should do if you run into a great vendor is basically the same thing. Find there thread, say something nice, spread the love! I'm sure most vendors would appreciate this, I know I would, and it definitely helps counteract the bogus buyers who have no respect for the system!
that is good advice & I will definitely start to do that more. I'm not exactly a newbie (been a forum member for about 8 months but SR longer) but obviously have not posted enough. but you are absolutely right that the awesome sellers deserve the praise. & I know other's forum posts & praise for vendors has helped me out a lot when deciding who to buy from. I've also sent a few some other customers from my local friends but I don't discuss SR with many people.
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Glad to help. Knowledge defeats all.
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Luckily I am a smart enough noob to read all recent feedback and reviews in the rumor mill but unfortunately I may have run into a bad transaction. It could turn out good in the end but i am getting worried. I ordered from TopGear. His feedback was perfect when I ordered ands there were no negative reviews. He was responsive to my messages and he even sent a message saying he was sending the product on Thursday.
It is now Sunday and the order is still marked processing. I sent him a message on Friday regarding the order status not changing and then one late last night telling him to cancel the.order if he planned on shopping it Monday. Also some spotty feedback and reviews appeared right after I sent the order out. Ia am praying that he sent the order and was too busy to change the status and his lack of response is due to the fact that he tales the weekend off even though he was seen online after I sent my first message.
Overall I didn't freak out and send him a ridiculous amount of messages and am hoping it will get resolved Monday with the arrival of the product or the cancellation of the orders.. I woildbhave gone with my first vendor Kush but he was on vacation. :(
EDIT: also I don't think anyone should demand a 5/5 review because no one is perfect and if their service happens to falter below that range for some reason we deserve the right to give them the proper score. A 3/5 and a 4/5 isn't bad feedback. And a 99 score isn't bad either. As long as the buyer takes a look at the whole picture. If we are forced to write 5/5 every time the buyers who don't take the time to look will simply see perfect reviews across the board for the nest and worst of the top vendors.
I figured i would try quoting the post this time and see if Anyone had some calming words for me. This is only my third transaction after two extremely successful ones and I am nervous because I don't have a lot of extra money and can get irritable when I don't have anything. And ridiculously tired. :-p
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sometimes (not very often, ime) you just don't deserve all the points! I think it would be nice to have a way to give the vendors that go above & beyond a bit more credit than the guy that just did an ok job. I don't want to penalize the ok guy but above & beyond should get something to show he is superior. not really sure how to do this other than a long review, which eventually gets buried though.
Ye s I mainly agree with what you say, however YOU CAN EDIT RATINGS/REVIEWS at a later stage Both up or down as you see fit ..
AFTER 'trying to resolve the matter directly with the vendor FIRST!' ;)
Do this and you'll be ok...vendors understand noob 'problems' and most will do their BEST to make things right 8)
I had a great vendor who eventually began to fuck people over (Ozcoldhorse) and his was destroyed by re-edits and people changing ALL their ratings ... probably took 2 weeks before he was gone ....without ONE ORDER AFTER his last massive review that told it like it was! 8)
BUT .... he WAS given a few weeks to sort things out ... although my last review I gave him a 3 I later change it to 1
Enjoy leaning "The Ways of The Silk Road" y'all ;)
p.s. and dissolvedgirl here's a +1 for giving a sensible, thought out answer ... you go grrrl! 8)
Oh I will absolutely try to resolve anything with the vendor first. I never want to give someone a bad rating that will impact their business if they have tried to be a decent human about it. I understand mistakes happen but some people are just assholes sometimes & I think future customers should get some kind of warning, even if the end result was I got what I ordered.
I like that all of the customers can work together with their edits to get rid of a bad seller...gotta look out for your fellow buyers :) If you are given time to correct multiple mistakes & you put in no effort then you deserve the negative feedback for sure.
but I love when I get to leave a glowing review for someone in their feedback!
thanks for the +1, I'm trying to become a more active member of the community without just spamming
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sometimes (not very often, ime) you just don't deserve all the points! I think it would be nice to have a way to give the vendors that go above & beyond a bit more credit than the guy that just did an ok job. I don't want to penalize the ok guy but above & beyond should get something to show he is superior. not really sure how to do this other than a long review, which eventually gets buried though.
Ye s I mainly agree with what you say, however YOU CAN EDIT RATINGS/REVIEWS at a later stage Both up or down as you see fit ..
AFTER 'trying to resolve the matter directly with the vendor FIRST!' ;)
Do this and you'll be ok...vendors understand noob 'problems' and most will do their BEST to make things right 8)
I had a great vendor who eventually began to fuck people over (Ozcoldhorse) and his was destroyed by re-edits and people changing ALL their ratings ... probably took 2 weeks before he was gone ....without ONE ORDER AFTER his last massive review that told it like it was! 8)
BUT .... he WAS given a few weeks to sort things out ... although my last review I gave him a 3 I later change it to 1
Enjoy leaning "The Ways of The Silk Road" y'all ;)
p.s. and dissolvedgirl here's a +1 for giving a sensible, thought out answer ... you go grrrl! 8)
Oh I will absolutely try to resolve anything with the vendor first. I never want to give someone a bad rating that will impact their business if they have tried to be a decent human about it. I understand mistakes happen but some people are just assholes sometimes & I think future customers should get some kind of warning, even if the end result was I got what I ordered.
I like that all of the customers can work together with their edits to get rid of a bad seller...gotta look out for your fellow buyers :) If you are given time to correct multiple mistakes & you put in no effort then you deserve the negative feedback for sure.
but I love when I get to leave a glowing review for someone in their feedback!
thanks for the +1, I'm trying to become a more active member of the community without just spamming
Maybe we are just Better of buying from the vendors with good stats and no demand of a 5/5. Its not worth the risk that the vendor demanding that isn't just showing off some kind of little dick syndrome. Like how guys who announce they have a big.dick really are just insecure about the small one they have compared to vendors who really can't always dish out 5/5 reviews have to announce that they deserve it. I guess it can he a good marketing ploy. Unless we are smart enough to not fall for it.
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Cradle: I think some vendors have been holding off on sending unhedged orders since the btc value has dropped? I have 2 that are processing for a few days. I wouldn't be immediately concerned about it depending on the vendor, some take longer to send if they are super busy sellers which TopGear appears to be from just casually looking at his profile. however, the fact that he messaged you giving you a specific day that he was going to send is a bit concerning to me. Some sellers don't work on the weekends so I would at least wait to see if you hear from him Monday, and then cancel when that is available to you if you still don't hear back or receive your package. SR has definitely taught me to be more patient but it definitely can be anxiety-causing in certain situations.
i'm going through something similar as I had a seller put into transit & then disappear from the road. now I am almost to finalizing so I'm not sure if I should ask for a refund (which would mess up my 0% refund rate) or try to extend & hope he returns soon. I'm not sure if the sale was hedged or not (is there a way to check this after its already been purchased?) so also worried about how that goes if I do get a refund. Will I get 100% of my USD or 100% of my BTC, which will be worth significantly less than when I purchased.
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Cradle: I think some vendors have been holding off on sending unhedged orders since the btc value has dropped? I have 2 that are processing for a few days. I wouldn't be immediately concerned about it depending on the vendor, some take longer to send if they are super busy sellers which TopGear appears to be from just casually looking at his profile. however, the fact that he messaged you giving you a specific day that he was going to send is a bit concerning to me. Some sellers don't work on the weekends so I would at least wait to see if you hear from him Monday, and then cancel when that is available to you if you still don't hear back or receive your package. SR has definitely taught me to be more patient but it definitely can be anxiety-causing in certain situations.
i'm going through something similar as I had a seller put into transit & then disappear from the road. now I am almost to finalizing so I'm not sure if I should ask for a refund (which would mess up my 0% refund rate) or try to extend & hope he returns soon. I'm not sure if the sale was hedged or not (is there a way to check this after its already been purchased?) so also worried about how that goes if I do get a refund. Will I get 100% of my USD or 100% of my BTC, which will be worth significantly less than when I purchased.
I don't know the answer but I have a strong feeling you will get the btc value nack., just as I got the btc value back from an order that was canceled due to the btc crash by SamGiancana. I will get screwed over if these get cancelled too because my 130 dollar purchase will turn into about 100 dollars. All I want is 117 dollars so I can purchase my third gram fro Kush411. Seriously if you are into meth you need to order from him when his listing come back up. I had a next day delivery and a two day delivery (express and priority respectively). I was nervous to go to someone else and this experience makes me want to hug kush leg and never let go. If the order does get cancelled hopefully btc spikes up to something good so I.can order from my man again.
As far as your order I would get the money back if.you don't hear from the guy. If any vendors have a problem they should be reasonable once you explain your situation. If not they are assholes anyways. Lol. I have no tolerance for assholes who simply want to be unreasonable. I think talking xab solve everything. Get your btc back and wait for a jump so you can order something good. That's what I'm gonna do. It could he risky but hopefully SD have another spike in value coming.
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spam
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OK. I am really irritated by all the spam. Post something constructive asshole. This post is pretty constructive only due to the fact that it allowed me another post in order to criticize it. This 50 post rule is ruining.the newbie thread and filling t with spam. I hope that every spam thread an post gets deleted so only people who post constructive things are allowed onto the full forum.
EDIT; oh.and update top gears stats dropped to 95 after two users changed reviews to talk about the lack of quality. Nervousness is at the Max level right now.
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aw man I hope you get your order! keep us updated so we know if TopGear is a douchebag. I've been using SR for close to a year and I have to say this is probably the most stressful group of purchases I have made. I guess I've been lucky, but I try to research as much as I can before buying. Just couldn't pass up a good deal this time & have had few problems with brand new vendors in the past. I had another vendor cancel an order & lost almost half of the cost due to btc crash. I wish he would have at least tried to work something out before cancelling. Maybe SR should make everything hedged. I don't think its very fair for vendors to cancel an order due to fluctuations because you know they are seriously benefited by it when btc are on the upswing. I don't want them to lose money but if you are doing unhedged transactions then you should be willing to take the ups & downs that come with that. gotta take the good with the bad i guess, all of us.
Anyway, I think I'm just going to ask for the refund then. I was thinking to wait until monday to see if he shows up but I've already clicked into resolution center so not sure what happens if I don't choose anything in there once I've already clicked it. I hope I don't lose too much on this, but really I hope it doesn't impact my stats so that vendors won't like me. hopefully they will do as you say & understand the situation if they ask about it.
Hope you at least get your 117 so you can make your purchase. I've actually never tried meth...maybe I should haha
I can't stand unreasonable assholes either. I am totally willing to be patient and work with someone so that we are both satisfied.
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aw man I hope you get your order! keep us updated so we know if TopGear is a douchebag. I've been using SR for close to a year and I have to say this is probably the most stressful group of purchases I have made. I guess I've been lucky, but I try to research as much as I can before buying. Just couldn't pass up a good deal this time & have had few problems with brand new vendors in the past. I had another vendor cancel an order & lost almost half of the cost due to btc crash. I wish he would have at least tried to work something out before cancelling. Maybe SR should make everything hedged. I don't think its very fair for vendors to cancel an order due to fluctuations because you know they are seriously benefited by it when btc are on the upswing. I don't want them to lose money but if you are doing unhedged transactions then you should be willing to take the ups & downs that come with that. gotta take the good with the bad i guess, all of us.
Anyway, I think I'm just going to ask for the refund then. I was thinking to wait until monday to see if he shows up but I've already clicked into resolution center so not sure what happens if I don't choose anything in there once I've already clicked it. I hope I don't lose too much on this, but really I hope it doesn't impact my stats so that vendors won't like me. hopefully they will do as you say & understand the situation if they ask about it.
Hope you at least get your 117 so you can make your purchase. I've actually never tried meth...maybe I should haha
I can't stand unreasonable assholes either. I am totally willing to be patient and work with someone so that we are both satisfied.
Omg I agree with everything in that post. I hope everything works.out for you too. Unfortunately we are the buyers and we have to mold into whatever position the dealer wants. But the dealers can do whatever the hell they want and we can get fucked easily. Sr give us.more power than any.streetvmarket at least.
As to trying meth I would advise you too try it.only if.you cab overcome.addictive drugs. Meth is an easy substance.to get addicted to and start to make an everyday thing. If you do try it I advise waiting for Kush411 to get back from vacation or.possibly try heroinusa who has food reviews with his 35 .5s and 65 gs. The .5 is your best bet considering the sloppiness of the.meth vendors lately.
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the spam is totally fine in the spam threads... but i still think we newbies can have actual discussions too. i guess I should start splitting my giant paragraphs into separate posts or else I will never get to 50!
thanks for your advice Freddie Prinze Jr ;)
checked out TopGear's profile briefly & looks like he might be a little overwhelmed...He also says he doesn't ship on weekends, so he might not check messages then either. I wouldn't be too stressed about it until at least Monday. I'm thinking you will probably get your order just not very quickly.
Now to be on topic of this original post....Would you still give TopGear a 5/5 if you get your order in the next few days?
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".Would you still give TopGear a 5/5 if you get your order in the next few days? "
Yep ...if the product was what I asked for
I like you style dissolved grrrl ... thanx for keeping the masses calm ;o)
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That depends on a few thing. I think I might take off a point due to the fact he told me he was shipping it Thursday and as of now it seems like he didn't. I will have to wait until I have a chat about that. If he sent it Thursday I should receive it Monday through priority shipping.
I don't think I will take a point off for communication because he was communicating very well at first. And he had to learn English for us non bilinguals. But he does have trouble reading messages when he was seen o line after the message has been sent. I'm guessing that is due he amount of orders or messages though.
I can judge the quality until I get it but that Is looking iffy at the moment. I'm notsure if this batch is bad and some people were fooled by the looks but thereare three negative feed backs and one of them claims to have been tested by three individuals. That one is also backed up NY a very lengthy review. I guess all I can say is a 5/5 is still possible but not very probable. It may be as low as a 3/5 but hoping for my and his sake it can at least be a 4/5.
EDIT: motek: there is much more to the order than the quality of the product.if the product is amazing it will normally get a 5/5 if the other aspects were OK but with this order some of the other aspects may fall short. Luckily it is all conjecture and the vendor still might pull through
And I am very calm ;-p
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As long as I know what's up I am fine waiting for the vendor. I can be totally patient if I know it will eventually work out, which is why I didn't mind waiting for this new guy to get his shit together. It is stressful when you just don't know though...& i understand some of these vendors are probably very stressed as well & become overwhelmed trying to deal with everyone so it's not necessarily that they are actively trying to disappoint or screw over a customer. I mean it is really in their best interest to try to have repeat customers by keeping them happy...but some of these guys can def afford to screw a few people over here & there. You are absolutely right that SR is better than any street market for many reasons.
meth is one that I was never really excited to try out so didn't really seek it out... I love adderall, but only for specific times when I need to be productive or with mdma for dancing a lot. I never really liked coke though, although maybe SR would have something better than I've had. but yeah i dont think it would be super addicting for me (famous last words...haha)
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As long as I know what's up I am fine waiting for the vendor. I can be totally patient if I know it will eventually work out, which is why I didn't mind waiting for this new guy to get his shit together. It is stressful when you just don't know though...& i understand some of these vendors are probably very stressed as well & become overwhelmed trying to deal with everyone so it's not necessarily that they are actively trying to disappoint or screw over a customer. I mean it is really in their best interest to try to have repeat customers by keeping them happy...but some of these guys can def afford to screw a few people over here & there. You are absolutely right that SR is better than any street market for many reasons.
meth is one that I was never really excited to try out so didn't really seek it out... I love adderall, but only for specific times when I need to be productive or with mdma for dancing a lot. I never really liked coke though, although maybe SR would have something better than I've had. but yeah i dont think it would be super addicting for me (famous last words...haha)
Then ibwoild advise trying it but keeping rules to how often you allow yourself to do it.
Oh and coke is shitty in my area so that could always be a possibility. The meth is pretty shktty too so I am glad I have sr now.
I think that it is understandable that they vendor may be bogged down but they also shouldn't be putting themselves in that situation. If they aren't ready. If you decide to vebd you need to be ready for as many orders as you get.
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thanks motek :)
I think if I got it in the next few days I would give him 5/5...and then maybe mention in the feedback if you do still have communication issues. that's interesting that he had to learn english, if he is still new at it it's probably quite overwhelming to deal with the amount of messages he is getting! obviously if it is shit quality I would go back later and change that. for me I like to finalize pretty much as soon as I open the package & make sure it looks good...if it ends up being shit quality later when I try it then I'd go back and change the feedback for that.
He shouldn't have told you he would ship thurs & then not actually mark it as in transit, but maybe something happened & he just didnt get a chance to do that & you will still get it monday. if not he will probably ship it monday since he def says he doesn't work on the weekend (which sucks for timing purposes, but helps cuz seems more likely he's not actively ignoring you if he is just not working). I have no idea of knowing for sure but I'm thinking you are not getting screwed over here & you will get your stuff at some point...that's my guess.
FYI only looked at the first page of his feedback but the first two that are less than 5/5 are talking about his coke, so hoping for you the meth is good stuff
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I did forget about the fact two were for coke. I guess I just have to worry about the metg review in the thread in the rumor mill. That one scares me a little.
I am iffy on whether or not he should lose a point because of the whole tellih me Thursday thing. I think if it turns out he actually didn't and doesn't have a good reason for not informing me he should lose a point for communication or shipping. The problem is even if a vendor doesn't have a good excuse they will make one up. I'm guessing its due to a floood of orders. I think everyone got flooded when kush went on vacation. That is how good kush is lol.
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I think that it is understandable that they vendor may be bogged down but they also shouldn't be putting themselves in that situation. If they aren't ready. If you decide to vebd you need to be ready for as many orders as you get.
I agree with this for sure... that's kinda what's going on with my order too. He said he couldn't fill it then but could in a week. Well then why would you have listings up saying you had an amount more than you actually have? But he's a new guy so I was giving him the benefit of the doubt that he would figure it out & send to me when he had it. He wasn't expecting that many people. At least TopGear seems to be in better shape since he seems to be managing alright, even though it's slow. He is putting up products that he actually has but is maybe just one dude trying to handle the massive amount. He's probably making so much money that he doesn't want to cut back to relieve some of his stress.
As long as you get it & its decent stuff, I'd give him the 5/5 and then if he did lie about the shipping or anything else that was a problem, you could just mention it in the comments. I like to let people know in the comment about how long it took for me to receive my order so they can kinda guess at what to expect for that anyway. most of his comments say fast shipping so if yours isnt fast you could put it on there so next person knows if they need it ASAP to maybe look elsewhere.
Alright, suns up...birds chirping...time for bed ;) let me know if you get your stuff! you will get it! :)
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I will let you know asap. I guess your right about the feedback. Especially considering it has cut down to 95 already. That's noticeable enough for people to look inti it
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Agree with you guys about the spam and +1 to all of you for using your 50 posts productively and having sensible discussions.
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Thanks! I guess spam is good though because it shows us who to avoid. Unfortunately those fuckers get to 50 quicker than us. I am only 3 posts away now. And there aren't any good threads to post on. Lol.
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I've been using SR for close to a year and I have to say this is probably the most stressful group of purchases I have made.
This made me laugh, because I don't think I've ever had a drug transaction, period, that didn't stress me out. :)
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I am only 3 posts away now.
2 posts. And those of us in noob purgatory are filled with envy.
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Honestly my purchases with kush wee stress free. It was lovely
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Because anything less than 5/5 reflects negatively on the seller.
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Agree with you guys about the spam and +1 to all of you for using your 50 posts productively and having sensible discussions.
thanks... i think it sucks to want to post relevant stuff & get advice but have no one to talk to because everyone is just trying to get to 50
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Thanks! I guess spam is good though because it shows us who to avoid. Unfortunately those fuckers get to 50 quicker than us. I am only 3 posts away now. And there aren't any good threads to post on. Lol.
looks like you made it to 50! congrats!
haha sounds like an over the hill birthday card
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I've been using SR for close to a year and I have to say this is probably the most stressful group of purchases I have made.
This made me laugh, because I don't think I've ever had a drug transaction, period, that didn't stress me out. :)
haha you are so right! but SR has definitely cut down on the stress compared to other ways...just sit back & wait for the mailman
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Dissolvedgrrrl EVERY ONE of your posts contains excellent information ... Great stuff, keeep it up
Why not go to an "obviously spam topic" and spam away to 50 .... I;d love to ssee you contributing elsewhere around the forum
Hope you had a great sleep, and an even better day today
cheers motek
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thanks motek!
i might do a little spamming but trying to see if I can help some newbies too. I definitely want to contribute on the real forums though once I get there :)
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Shit! you''re doing good ...42posts as I read this, it was like 18 before!
And thank you again for showing every one "how it should be done" You are an asset to this community!
Go hard babe!
motek