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Title: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: boxman80 on February 23, 2012, 07:05 am
I am posting this so that everyone who is interested in buying adderall of this site. Please please please be very careful. I just bought off a guy named "outlaw303" because he was advertising that he had something like 90 generic adderall pills. He even had a picture of what looked like the ones I get from the pharmacy. I ordered 7 pills since that is all the money I had and he was charging $5 a pill. It only took 3 days for me to receive my package, and I was very happy at first. So happy that I went right online and gave this asshole 5 star rating and a good remark. He did half the job though. He got them to me in a very timely manor, but when I got them out of the envelope he sent them in I noticed something strange about the pills. They did say AD on one side and the number 30 on the other side just like regular generic adderall, however they had a somewhat shiny hard surface, which is not a characteristic of the generic form of this drug. I figured, oh well maybe it is just a different generic that I have never seen before. Boy was I wrong. I took the pill and my heart started pounding but none of the euphoric feeling you get from adderall, more like if you took 2 Vivran caffeine pills. It gave me the jitters and that was about it not to mention making me feel crappy like I drank way to much coffee. All I know is that I bought these pills not knowing that this guy was last out of every seller on the sight with no sales yet or any feedback. I just jumped the gun on it. He has some feedback now and I have messaged him letting him know that I know he is selling fake shit and that it WILL catch up to him at some point. Alright...enough said. Just be careful.... DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM "OUTLAW303" BECAUSE IT IS SURE TO BE NOT WHAT YOU WERE EXPECTING. More than likely you will be out $50 like I am. Below is an image of the fake pills.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: caffeine_me on February 23, 2012, 07:46 am
I had the same initial shock when splitting the pill, but after a little looking I did find a picture/description that fit that pill exact.  It was a sub company of Barr.  It is a pretty small pill for 30mg, so the white is packed tight in the middle.......no room for coloring.

I sampled 15mg and had the same response I always get with that dose of adderall.

I would still use caution though.  New vendor + uncommon pill form........should be seen as a couple of red flags.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: Bob Loblaw on February 23, 2012, 06:10 pm
I received 4 of these too and can confirm that they are fake and NOT adderall or even amphetamine. I ended up taking all 4 (because if you don't feel it at first, take more! right? -_-) and that was a mistake, I felt like shit the whole night. No speedy feeling or tingly numbness like I get with real amphetamines. I popped the first one at 8pm and fourth one at 12am  and fell asleep at 3am... yeah... that would've never happened with real adderall.
I also noticed that these did not look like regular adderall. Every IR adderall I received is a solid color inside in out and were never coated like these were. These had an orange waxy coating on the outside and were white on the inside. They were also more rounded and not flat like every other adderall tablet I've come across.
I'm dissapointed but I guess should've been more wary for a seller with zero feedback selling $5 30mg adderalls. I just want to know what I really ingested..

BUYER BEWARE!

Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: decryptedprivacy on February 23, 2012, 09:32 pm
I ordered from outlaw303 on Feb 17th. Order said immediately shipped and I got a message from outlaw303 saying "thank you". I sent my address via privnote and some messages to him via privnote, then privnote was down...looked for his pgp key and it was gone. Asked for it in a pm and he sent it to me, sent an encrypted message, no reply, couple days later he had a new pgp key on his profile created 2/20 with a different email address, sent an encrypted message using new key and a plain text message asking if there was a problem with my order... still haven't heard anything. His profile says he is on vacation until Saturday. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt, but white on the inside is not adderall.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: !wetwork! on February 23, 2012, 10:31 pm
I have a prescription of the stuff - 15mg twice a day - 60 pills a bottle

Every month.

If he was charging 5$ each for 30s, think anyone would take me up on 2$ each for mine? I'd just assume ditch the whole bottle to someone @ $120

Mine ARE real. The bottle i get them in at the pharmacy every month tells me so.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: decryptedprivacy on February 23, 2012, 10:57 pm
I would... no insurance right now so I can't get them until later this year... so sick of getting fucked over between getting btc and getting what I need its really pissing me off.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: davidd on February 23, 2012, 11:49 pm
I have a prescription of the stuff - 15mg twice a day - 60 pills a bottle

Every month.

If he was charging 5$ each for 30s, think anyone would take me up on 2$ each for mine? I'd just assume ditch the whole bottle to someone @ $120

Mine ARE real. The bottle i get them in at the pharmacy every month tells me so.

Do you have a vendor's account?
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: boringflooring on February 24, 2012, 12:06 am
hmm... this is good to know.  i saw his original listings too, and thought that for the price, i'd get some.  Since he had no feedback/transaction history i felt it would be safer to wait.  Judging by the posts here, i'm glad i did.  The new seller and rock bottom prices were just too suspicious for me.

I did message him about the adderall, and based on his response, it's possible he might not have even known they were fake.  I saw that he is away until Saturday, but i'd be interested in seeing what he has to say about it.  He's still learning how to use the site, and pharms aren't his thing anyway, so i guess we'll see.

I won't bother with the adderall unless he gets another shipment that gets good results from users willing to take the risk.

Sorry to hear about everyone else's experience

Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: boxman80 on February 24, 2012, 01:46 am
I would like to tell you that I am prescribed 60, 30 mg tablets per month. The pills are generic and are orange with the number 974 on one side, and the number 30 on the other side. I have seen only one different type of generic adderall 30 mg and they are actually pink. As far as I know there is only those two different types, however I could be totally wrong about this. The pills that I had sent to me almost looked as if they were somehow home made or self manufactured. They had some chipping on them and a shiny coating, plus the inside was white. Again, I thought maybe that this was some kind of different generic or something, thinking that the shiny coating was a time release mechanism or something. Hey you can't knock me for trying to make a positive out of a negative here however after ingesting the pills the negatives far outweighed the positives. I still took them because they gave me a caffeine like buzz but they made me feel out of it and jumpy not focused even in the slightest of ways. I have contacted the Outlaw303, and am awaiting his response. I was just so surprised as to how he got them to me so quickly, and they were intelligently packaged and inside a birthday card that said "It's your birthday and no one will mind if you stuff your face!" Everything was great, except the part that really mattered here. And that was the pill itself. I am happy that some people on here have read my posting and responded, as well as hearing that there are others who had a similar experience. I wonder though for those who did, what did you do about his feedback? I asked him if he will do anything to compensate me for this hoping that it is a misunderstanding and it was him that actually got duped. Maybe he was sold the pills by someone else who was claiming them to be real. Who knows. If this is the case though, he will have to make it up in some way shape or form.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: Bob Loblaw on February 24, 2012, 02:04 am
^^^ Please edit your post to remove packaging details.

Here is what they're supposed to look like: http://image.ec21.com/image/legitpharmacy1/OF0009875962_1/Sell_Adderall_30mg.jpg As you can see these do not have a waxy coating and are more flat than the ones outlaw303 sent. They also have white specks and a bevel on the outside, I do not remember outlaw303's having these but I may be wrong. Either way, it was pretty obvious they were fake after ingesting.

As for feedback I edited mine with a link to this post, I suggest you do the same so more people know. You can do so by going here: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/account/view_feedback
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: boxman80 on February 24, 2012, 03:15 am
Thanks for the link. I just went and edited my feedback I left for him. I was unaware that you can do that. I am a frequent buyer on eBay and from my knowledge you can ever edit any feedback you have previously left for people. I am a little more satisfied now so that other people know not to fuck with this seller. His name says it all........outlaw. Should have picked up on that one right away. I will be much more careful next time around. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: doobiebros on February 24, 2012, 03:21 am
I do not know about the pill business...but the sample of grass that he sent was FAT and really good.  After I got it, I asked for larger quantity but he never replied to my PM and now his profile states that he is on vacation.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: boxman80 on February 24, 2012, 04:37 am
Basically, adderall is my forte. I thought maybe on SR that it was possible to find different versions of generics. I have lived in several different states and the pills were all the same in each state. I guess the idea would be to ask the seller for a photo of the exact pill they plan on selling you. I think that grass is a little different, and I don't doubt that he came through like a champ with you. Like I said before, maybe and just maybe he was given some fake adderall pills to sell not knowing it and just unloaded them. Maybe this dude will just send me some grass to make up for the bullshit he put me through, or even some Xanax or something. Anything at all, and if he truly didn't know he was selling fake pills to people then he will do something to right his wrong.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: caffeine_me on February 24, 2012, 05:11 am
**clearnet***
http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81319

it looks just like a shire 10mg/blue.  Same exact shape, round edge, and shiny looking.  Hmmm, I'm surprised I felt similar to when I take a real Adderall?  Good old placebo affect.  He struck me as a dealer that wants to focus on MJ and just happen to have the addy's.  I have a feeling he will fix it.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: sourman on February 24, 2012, 05:47 am
I ordered bud from him on Wednesday morning and the status changed to shipped within 5 minutes. He didn't reply to any of my messages or requests either, but then again a few minutes after he changed the order status he also put the "######On vacation all orders are caught up and shipped be back on Sat. Sorry######" notice in his profile, so I am also giving him the benefit of the doubt. As long as my bud gets here within 2-3 days and it's good shit, I'm satisfied.

I don't know about Aderall, but the vast majority of his reviews are for his weed, which is supposedly banging, packaged well, and shipped fast. He even writes the following about the pill side of his business:

"The meds I am planning on continuing to sell Aderall******have to wait 2 to 3 weeks for new stock****** since I apparently have the cheapest connection or something..... All other meds are gone when they are gone. I am a Horticulturist and specialize in cannabis and extraction processes and this is what I take pride in."

It's entirely possible that he didn't know the Aderall was fake, and will at least try to address the concerns once he gets back from vacation or whatever. It would make no sense for him to carefully mail out good bud just so he could build feedback to scam a few people on small amounts of cheap stimulant prescription meds. He sold other pills too in the past which, according to the feedback, at least seemed to be genuine.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: Rebel on February 24, 2012, 05:51 am
I'm pretty sure they're fake as well, as far as I'm aware 30 mg XR Adderall comes in only three types:

http://www.sliated.com/adderall_types.jpg

This looks like a poor imitation of the first type, comparing the first type with the pill I received I notice my pill has a different color, that the A and D are farther apart, that the font is different, that there are white chips along the edges, and that mine has dark orange blotches.

The only satisfying explanation that I can come up with is that these are home-brewed pills which contain similar amounts of amphetamine or amphetamine substitutes. I'm planning on taking two pills when I get up tomorrow, I'll give a detailed report tomorrow night, but so far it doesn't look good.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: jewfro on February 24, 2012, 06:53 am
I'm pretty sure they're fake as well, as far as I'm aware 30 mg XR Adderall comes in only three types:

http://www.sliated.com/adderall_types.jpg

This looks like a poor imitation of the first type, comparing the first type with the pill I received I notice my pill has a different color, that the A and D are farther apart, that the font is different, that there are white chips along the edges, and that mine has dark orange blotches.

The only satisfying explanation that I can come up with is that these are home-brewed pills which contain similar amounts of amphetamine or amphetamine substitutes. I'm planning on taking two pills when I get up tomorrow, I'll give a detailed report tomorrow night, but so far it doesn't look good.

broooo, there's a LOT more generic brands of adderall, and they all differ from country to country, with individual small-time generics that people have never heard of.....

anyways, its possible, and i keep reading how different generics of adderall have supposedly way different effects.....

whatever. speed is speed, as long as it's not homepressed....  >:(
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: supersecretsquirrel on February 24, 2012, 04:41 pm
They did say AD on one side and the number 30 on the other side just like regular generic adderall, however they had a somewhat shiny hard surface, which is not a characteristic of the generic form of this drug.

Sounds like the same kind of pills you get when you order from Larghetto. I have some here and will give it a go next week. Do the pills you have look similar to https://imgur.com/yNkLD ?

I should probably add that Larghetto answered with the following when I sent him a message asking about the pills:

Quote
The pills we are selling are NOT Adderall, they are Generic Addereall. It even says that in the listing title.

However, they are still very good quality, and here are two lab results proving that they are good. The second one was done recently by a user on SR to confirm this on a package sent at random from our stock to him, so you know it is the real deal.

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2174 G. Adderall
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2428 G. Adderall New

The listing title does say that it is generic adderall, and in the description it says that "... tablets are verified to have mixed amphetamine salts inside them". How much amphetamine salt compared to brand adderall is another question.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: Bob Loblaw on February 24, 2012, 06:36 pm
I'm pretty sure they're fake as well, as far as I'm aware 30 mg XR Adderall comes in only three types:

http://www.sliated.com/adderall_types.jpg

This looks like a poor imitation of the first type, comparing the first type with the pill I received I notice my pill has a different color, that the A and D are farther apart, that the font is different, that there are white chips along the edges, and that mine has dark orange blotches.

The only satisfying explanation that I can come up with is that these are home-brewed pills which contain similar amounts of amphetamine or amphetamine substitutes. I'm planning on taking two pills when I get up tomorrow, I'll give a detailed report tomorrow night, but so far it doesn't look good.

broooo, there's a LOT more generic brands of adderall, and they all differ from country to country, with individual small-time generics that people have never heard of.....

anyways, its possible, and i keep reading how different generics of adderall have supposedly way different effects.....

whatever. speed is speed, as long as it's not homepressed....  >:(

Yes, there are a lot of generic brands of adderall but I think what he meant is those 3 in the picture are the ONLY orange 30mg IR adderall available, and after a little research I found it to be correct. Those ARE the only orange 30mg IR tablets I could find. Also, Adderall is only prescribed in the US and Canada and Canada uses the same generics as US so it does not vary country by country.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: larghetto on February 24, 2012, 06:39 pm
Hello,

We would just to stand by the product that we sell on here, the ones detailed in the following quote:

"
Quote
The pills we are selling are NOT Adderall, they are Generic Addereall. It even says that in the listing title.

However, they are still very good quality, and here are two lab results proving that they are good. The second one was done recently by a user on SR to confirm this on a package sent at random from our stock to him, so you know it is the real deal.

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2174 G. Adderall
http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2428 G. Adderall New

We can doubly confirm that the second test was done randomly by a user *on SR* on a random shipment of our product to them, so unless we can second guess who is going to send their tablets to EcstasyData or other testing site by psychic power, we are selling a legitimate product, which has yet to receive complaint from any of our purchasers.

Anyway, we hope that this recent unpleasantness regarding someone's product being inferior will not put you off ours, and we just wanted to make this post, to stand by our item as containing the active ingredient of the Adderall product (Amphetamine Salts) *in the correct dose that we claim it to be*.

Best regards,
Larghetto
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: minorthreat71 on February 24, 2012, 06:54 pm
Yea, I got them too.  What bothered me most was that they were dirty.  Anyhow, I took 5 of them at once, nothing.... 
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: Napoleon Bonerfarts on February 24, 2012, 07:14 pm
well this is annoying. just placed an order for his 2 mg generic xanax before seeing this. the price looked too good to be true and his feedback on bud type stuff is good, goddamnit...

I know the onax 2 generic xanax is copied a lot but I grabbed some when paythepiper had it and I still have a bunch. those are legit as fuck.

if he asks me to finalize early i'm gonna to tell him to get fucked. if and when I get it i can look at them side by side. if its not an exact match i'm gonna be scared to eat it, probably phenazepam or some bullshit pressed to be passed off as sticks. what the fuck is wrong with people.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: Rebel on February 24, 2012, 10:20 pm
I'm pretty sure they're fake as well, as far as I'm aware 30 mg XR Adderall comes in only three types:

http://www.sliated.com/adderall_types.jpg

This looks like a poor imitation of the first type, comparing the first type with the pill I received I notice my pill has a different color, that the A and D are farther apart, that the font is different, that there are white chips along the edges, and that mine has dark orange blotches.

The only satisfying explanation that I can come up with is that these are home-brewed pills which contain similar amounts of amphetamine or amphetamine substitutes. I'm planning on taking two pills when I get up tomorrow, I'll give a detailed report tomorrow night, but so far it doesn't look good.

broooo, there's a LOT more generic brands of adderall, and they all differ from country to country, with individual small-time generics that people have never heard of.....

anyways, its possible, and i keep reading how different generics of adderall have supposedly way different effects.....

whatever. speed is speed, as long as it's not homepressed....  >:(

Yes, there are a lot of generic brands of adderall but I think what he meant is those 3 in the picture are the ONLY orange 30mg IR adderall available, and after a little research I found it to be correct. Those ARE the only orange 30mg IR tablets I could find. Also, Adderall is only prescribed in the US and Canada and Canada uses the same generics as US so it does not vary country by country.

Yes, that's what I meant more or less, thanks for clearing that up, sorry for any confusion.

As for my experience so far, I didn't think I'd be saying this but these seem like the real deal, I've experienced a marked decrease in appetite, and an increase in alertness and concentration.

I suspect now that these are foreign manufactured (probably in the pacific islands or China) from a small shoddy pharmaceutical company which produces products of mediocre and dubious quality.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: jewfro on February 24, 2012, 11:28 pm
Yes, there are a lot of generic brands of adderall but I think what he meant is those 3 in the picture are the ONLY orange 30mg IR adderall available, and after a little research I found it to be correct. Those ARE the only orange 30mg IR tablets I could find. Also, Adderall is only prescribed in the US and Canada and Canada uses the same generics as US so it does not vary country by country.

true, and yeah, for the most part canadian generics are the same.... although there are some, relatively, mom'n'pop pharm companies that make like one shape/color pill for like 20 000 generics... :S
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: supersecretsquirrel on February 25, 2012, 02:36 am
Anyway, we hope that this recent unpleasantness regarding someone's product being inferior will not put you off ours, and we just wanted to make this post, to stand by our item as containing the active ingredient of the Adderall product (Amphetamine Salts) *in the correct dose that we claim it to be*.

To avoid confusion and people blaming you for false advertising; edit your page and say that the product contains the active ingredient in Adderall (but it's not really Adderall, just very similar), and list the amount in your product vs. real Adderall.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: Bob Loblaw on February 25, 2012, 08:07 pm
Update from outlaw303's profile aimed at "pill poppers":

"*****I will no longer deal with anyone who doesnt have a rock solid history due to the fact that half the scum on here are lookin to make shit up to fuck up your rep or get shit for free for whatever reason I hope you burn in hell*****"

"All you pill poppers suck a dick, I cant believe how many people are scammers, I'd rather keep them than put up with the bullshit, fake adderall give me a fucking break! If the pharmacy distributes fake pills than I guess your right but your NOT. Again suck a dick! Never again."

Stay classy, outlaw303. I know fake adderall when I see it.


Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: Dirtyduke on February 25, 2012, 09:30 pm
I didn't get any adderall from him, but I ordered 10 xanax bars.  They were real, but the packaging was bad.  The pills were crushed and there was powerder coming out of the envelope.

I am not going to call him a scammer, but he is new and has a lot to learn about shipping pills.

Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: decryptedprivacy on February 26, 2012, 12:38 am
Update from outlaw303's profile aimed at "pill poppers":

"*****I will no longer deal with anyone who doesnt have a rock solid history due to the fact that half the scum on here are lookin to make shit up to fuck up your rep or get shit for free for whatever reason I hope you burn in hell*****"

"All you pill poppers suck a dick, I cant believe how many people are scammers, I'd rather keep them than put up with the bullshit, fake adderall give me a fucking break! If the pharmacy distributes fake pills than I guess your right but your NOT. Again suck a dick! Never again."

Stay classy, outlaw303. I know fake adderall when I see it.

*Update: Canceled/refunded my order from 2/17... Thanks! I guess that hurts my feedback? And took out some fees so I didn't get the full amount that was in escrow  >:(
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: dirtyduke1 on February 26, 2012, 01:54 am
crazy, I never said his adderall was fake, just needed to be packaged better.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: boringflooring on February 26, 2012, 03:13 am
Quote
Update from outlaw303's profile aimed at "pill poppers":

"*****I will no longer deal with anyone who doesnt have a rock solid history due to the fact that half the scum on here are lookin to make shit up to fuck up your rep or get shit for free for whatever reason I hope you burn in hell*****"

"All you pill poppers suck a dick, I cant believe how many people are scammers, I'd rather keep them than put up with the bullshit, fake adderall give me a fucking break! If the pharmacy distributes fake pills than I guess your right but your NOT. Again suck a dick! Never again."

Stay classy, outlaw303. I know fake adderall when I see it.

I saw that too. It has since been removed, but at any rate, putting something like that in his profile is extremely unprofessional and reflects quite poorly on the seller.  I'd still like to try his bud, but i think i'll stick with tweetb for now until  Outlaw303 establishes himself a bit more and displays a bit more maturity and discretion.  It's never a good idea to alienate and denigrate potential customers, especially right in the seller's profile
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: decryptedprivacy on February 27, 2012, 05:23 am
So I asked SR Support why I didn't receive the full amount after outlaw303 canceled my order. They said:

Quote
when hedging and unhedging, the price used is not the last price on the market, but rather the best price available at the time of hedging and unhedging, so typically you will lose the difference between the highest bid price and lowest ask price even if the last price remains unchanged

~SR support

FYI

I'm not really pissed about losing ฿2.47 because of the hedge but it does suck. I am pissed if he didn't actually ship, especially after his note on the profile about being all quick with shipping and it was marked shipped after 1 hour. I highly doubt he was sending fake adderall considering what else he sells and the feedback for it.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: sourman on February 28, 2012, 10:20 am
Has anyone heard anything from outlaw303 since he returned on Saturday?

EDIT: Seller returned and made everything right.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: decryptedprivacy on March 02, 2012, 10:14 pm
I was getting frustrated waiting for a response from him too. But he did finally respond to say he was experiencing some issues with weather and had lots of messages. He apologized for the problem with my order and even gave me the difference back that was hedged when he had cancelled my order... he said he cancelled due to fake adderall... which I think means maybe what he got was fake and he didn't know... either way, he made it right so I'm sure he will get back to you when he can.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: larghetto on March 02, 2012, 11:56 pm
Hello,

We would like to once again stand behind our product, and also state that it DOES contain the 4 different amphetamine salts in them. Not just a single amphetamine.

It contains the following as stated in our communication with our supplier (whom we have no reason to doubt, and also neither the very positive reviews with the item which are all saying that the item is in correct dose and active ingredients also):

1/4 dextroamphetamine saccharate
1/4 dextroamphetamine sulfate
1/4 (racemic dextro/levo-)amphetamine aspartate monohydrate
1/4 (racemic dextro/levo-)amphetamine sulfate

With regard to what people are saying about this product, every single one is over or at 4/5, and there are only 2 out of about 30 at 4/5. Every single person has received their order with all 3 different amounts available for purchase also, at all times.

We don't like to say such a thing, but sometimes people, and this is completely true, sometimes mistake a lack of effect because of their tolerance, and contact us regarding it, and we say this, and then they say (every single time we have been messaged about this no less) something along the lines of, "Ah, yes, that could be it". We're can't prove this is always the case, but are pretty sure it is.

Anyway, here are the item listings for your convenience, and decision if you decide to purchase, and of course, are most welcome to post any and all experience with them.

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/091006bd17 15 x 20mg tablets
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/78f89ee3ea  30 x 20mg tablets
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/e753eb993c  60 x 20mg tablets

Best regards, and thank you all for making Silk Road what it is,
Larghetto
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: jewfro on March 03, 2012, 01:20 am
Hello,

We would like to once again stand behind our product, and also state that it DOES contain the 4 different amphetamine salts in them. Not just a single amphetamine.

It contains the following as stated in our communication with our supplier (whom we have no reason to doubt, and also neither the very positive reviews with the item which are all saying that the item is in correct dose and active ingredients also):

1/4 dextroamphetamine saccharate
1/4 dextroamphetamine sulfate
1/4 (racemic dextro/levo-)amphetamine aspartate monohydrate
1/4 (racemic dextro/levo-)amphetamine sulfate

With regard to what people are saying about this product, every single one is over or at 4/5, and there are only 2 out of about 30 at 4/5. Every single person has received their order with all 3 different amounts available for purchase also, at all times.

We don't like to say such a thing, but sometimes people, and this is completely true, sometimes mistake a lack of effect because of their tolerance, and contact us regarding it, and we say this, and then they say (every single time we have been messaged about this no less) something along the lines of, "Ah, yes, that could be it". We're can't prove this is always the case, but are pretty sure it is.

Anyway, here are the item listings for your convenience, and decision if you decide to purchase, and of course, are most welcome to post any and all experience with them.

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/091006bd17 15 x 20mg tablets
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/78f89ee3ea  30 x 20mg tablets
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/e753eb993c  60 x 20mg tablets

Best regards, and thank you all for making Silk Road what it is,
Larghetto


but the thing is... even if you get straight "amphetamine", sulfate, let's say.

racemic amphetamine means that in any given amount 50% will be l-amphetamine and 50% will be d-amphetamine. aka, half will be dexedrine, half will be "levedrine"

and adderall (TM) claims to use 4 different salts, as larghetto said, the sulfates, aspartate and saccharides of amphetamine/dextroamphetamine (which is another way of saying racemic amphetamine)
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: decryptedprivacy on March 03, 2012, 03:45 am
Hello,

We would like to once again stand behind our product, and also state that it DOES contain the 4 different amphetamine salts in them. Not just a single amphetamine.

It contains the following as stated in our communication with our supplier (whom we have no reason to doubt, and also neither the very positive reviews with the item which are all saying that the item is in correct dose and active ingredients also):

1/4 dextroamphetamine saccharate
1/4 dextroamphetamine sulfate
1/4 (racemic dextro/levo-)amphetamine aspartate monohydrate
1/4 (racemic dextro/levo-)amphetamine sulfate

With regard to what people are saying about this product, every single one is over or at 4/5, and there are only 2 out of about 30 at 4/5. Every single person has received their order with all 3 different amounts available for purchase also, at all times.

We don't like to say such a thing, but sometimes people, and this is completely true, sometimes mistake a lack of effect because of their tolerance, and contact us regarding it, and we say this, and then they say (every single time we have been messaged about this no less) something along the lines of, "Ah, yes, that could be it". We're can't prove this is always the case, but are pretty sure it is.

Anyway, here are the item listings for your convenience, and decision if you decide to purchase, and of course, are most welcome to post any and all experience with them.

http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/091006bd17 15 x 20mg tablets
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/78f89ee3ea  30 x 20mg tablets
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/e753eb993c  60 x 20mg tablets

Best regards, and thank you all for making Silk Road what it is,
Larghetto

No offense, but I'd never order from you and I wouldn't recommend anyone from the USA do so because you ship from undeclared... meaning you don't have product in your hands. From the Philippines to Canada to USA... I'm sure your product may very well be fine for what it is, racemic amphetamine... but I refuse to order anything from anyone that doesn't actually have the product because while it may make it past customs since it would be declared as what it actually is, after that it is game to be swapped for fakes and/or partially stolen...my point, you can not guarantee that I will get what I ordered or that I would even get it. Been there done that, never again. Also to jewfro's point, it is sad that sellers are offering racemic amphetamine at such marked up prices, like its coke by the miligram... I can pay $3-5 on the street or from friends regardless the mg of the pill. I would consider the prices sellers here want if it was dexedrine but otherwise for racemic amphetamine its laughable the markup sellers are charging.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: larghetto on March 04, 2012, 04:44 am
Hello "decryptedprivacy",

We fully invite you to order, and are sure you will, from another source, or perhaps your "street" contact as you state that sell it for less anyway.

In regard to the idea that we will "switch an item" just because it is shipped from an "undeclared" location, we of course do not do that, and our feedback fully agrees with the notion that we don't. We also don't really understand the idea why using "undeclared" as our location for some of our products will make us any more or any less likely to "switch" a product as you claim. I'm kind of a bit confused as to why it would be less or more likely to be done in that circumstance, as opposed to moving it's way down the dealer/supplier/distributor/importer chain, as it would do on the street for quite a lot of illicit substances.

We also do not appreciate the fact that you claim, without ***ANY*** purchase of any product of our that these pills just contain "racemic" amphetamine, which it doesn't, and instead contains the full 4 different types of amphetamines salts that are in every Adderall brand name tablet in the world.

Apart from the fact that a lot of stuff that you are saying doesn't really make sense anyway, grammatically, and we are unsure exactly what you are even saying half of the time, you make some pretty bizarre statements, and presumptions based on ideas that you couldn't even know without ordering anyway. Not to mention that it does against the massive feedback that we have, and gross product purchased, which puts us in the top 50 sellers usually, and certainly top 100.

Anyway, we don't really understand what business you even have in this thread when you have not only a better contact then SR for the item in question, but also no experience purchasing from us. Not only is it presumptions and assumptions, but also quite rude in general to recommend that people not purchase from us based solely on your half-nonsense statements.

Regards,
Larghetto
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: jewfro on March 04, 2012, 09:27 pm
Hello "decryptedprivacy",

We fully invite you to order, and are sure you will, from another source, or perhaps your "street" contact as you state that sell it for less anyway.

In regard to the idea that we will "switch an item" just because it is shipped from an "undeclared" location, we of course do not do that, and our feedback fully agrees with the notion that we don't. We also don't really understand the idea why using "undeclared" as our location for some of our products will make us any more or any less likely to "switch" a product as you claim. I'm kind of a bit confused as to why it would be less or more likely to be done in that circumstance, as opposed to moving it's way down the dealer/supplier/distributor/importer chain, as it would do on the street for quite a lot of illicit substances.

We also do not appreciate the fact that you claim, without ***ANY*** purchase of any product of our that these pills just contain "racemic" amphetamine, which it doesn't, and instead contains the full 4 different types of amphetamines salts that are in every Adderall brand name tablet in the world.

Apart from the fact that a lot of stuff that you are saying doesn't really make sense anyway, grammatically, and we are unsure exactly what you are even saying half of the time, you make some pretty bizarre statements, and presumptions based on ideas that you couldn't even know without ordering anyway. Not to mention that it does against the massive feedback that we have, and gross product purchased, which puts us in the top 50 sellers usually, and certainly top 100.

Anyway, we don't really understand what business you even have in this thread when you have not only a better contact then SR for the item in question, but also no experience purchasing from us. Not only is it presumptions and assumptions, but also quite rude in general to recommend that people not purchase from us based solely on your half-nonsense statements.

Regards,
Larghetto

larghetto, dude - the "4 amphetamine salts" are racemic amphetamine.

adderall = racemic amphetamine.

it's like commercials telling you that an iphone is "A MUSIC PLAYER, A TELEPHONE AND AN INTERNET COMMUNICATIONS DEVICE", when you know that its the same shit, just as a fucking blackberry or next android :/
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: larghetto on March 05, 2012, 12:51 am
Hello,

Sorry, I admit, I'm not that knowledgeable as a chemist with regard to understanding the notations of all the possible variations of a molecular structure, so excuse me if that comment was out of line.

I'm not Walter White from "Breaking Bad", so I'm not that acquainted with such things. As much as some people might would like to think so, but drug dealing doesn't have a degree in it. Let alone one that you have to pass.

So once again, sorry if that comment was out of line.

Best regards,
Larghetto
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: sourman on March 05, 2012, 12:17 pm
I was getting frustrated waiting for a response from him too. But he did finally respond to say he was experiencing some issues with weather and had lots of messages. He apologized for the problem with my order and even gave me the difference back that was hedged when he had cancelled my order... he said he cancelled due to fake adderall... which I think means maybe what he got was fake and he didn't know... either way, he made it right so I'm sure he will get back to you when he can.

Yeah he eventually replied and made everything right. I never tried the adderall but he got some fire bud. It's a good thing he didn't leave SR after this incident.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: jewfro on March 05, 2012, 12:57 pm
Hello,

Sorry, I admit, I'm not that knowledgeable as a chemist with regard to understanding the notations of all the possible variations of a molecular structure, so excuse me if that comment was out of line.

I'm not Walter White from "Breaking Bad", so I'm not that acquainted with such things. As much as some people might would like to think so, but drug dealing doesn't have a degree in it. Let alone one that you have to pass.

So once again, sorry if that comment was out of line.

Best regards,
Larghetto

no worries, it's just that adderall doesn't really need defining? whatever lol
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: decryptedprivacy on March 07, 2012, 06:29 am
Hello "decryptedprivacy",

We fully invite you to order, and are sure you will, from another source, or perhaps your "street" contact as you state that sell it for less anyway.

In regard to the idea that we will "switch an item" just because it is shipped from an "undeclared" location, we of course do not do that, and our feedback fully agrees with the notion that we don't. We also don't really understand the idea why using "undeclared" as our location for some of our products will make us any more or any less likely to "switch" a product as you claim. I'm kind of a bit confused as to why it would be less or more likely to be done in that circumstance, as opposed to moving it's way down the dealer/supplier/distributor/importer chain, as it would do on the street for quite a lot of illicit substances.

We also do not appreciate the fact that you claim, without ***ANY*** purchase of any product of our that these pills just contain "racemic" amphetamine, which it doesn't, and instead contains the full 4 different types of amphetamines salts that are in every Adderall brand name tablet in the world.

Apart from the fact that a lot of stuff that you are saying doesn't really make sense anyway, grammatically, and we are unsure exactly what you are even saying half of the time, you make some pretty bizarre statements, and presumptions based on ideas that you couldn't even know without ordering anyway. Not to mention that it does against the massive feedback that we have, and gross product purchased, which puts us in the top 50 sellers usually, and certainly top 100.

Anyway, we don't really understand what business you even have in this thread when you have not only a better contact then SR for the item in question, but also no experience purchasing from us. Not only is it presumptions and assumptions, but also quite rude in general to recommend that people not purchase from us based solely on your half-nonsense statements.

Regards,
Larghetto

Sorry, I was attempting to describe a situation that happened to a friend of mine when buying prescription drugs that were shipped from undeclared... he received a package that was not from the seller or even the re-shipper that contained a portion of 'generic' product, the rest were fakes, as well I've heard of other similar stories from buyers ordering from sellers using re-shippers. I was not accusing you or any particular seller of doing anything wrong, but when using a re-shipper, a situation like I described is a possibility because it is outside your control. I'll try again...the item is sent from re-shipper outside the USA for the seller to the buyer, item is declared as whatever prescription drug it is, it passes customs, it then gets stolen, replaced with fakes and re-mailed by a mail sorter/postal worker. Sounds crazy I know, but it can happen especially when you're talking about an order of 500+ pills. Regardless, I think that most people would prefer the seller to actually have products in hand and ship it themselves. I'm sorry, maybe I assumed too much because most of your products are noted as shipping from 'undeclared' and some of the posts earlier in this thread regarding where your products come from. It sounds like you've never had any problems with this, but I said I would not order from you because your products are listed as shipping from undeclared and again I meant no offense.

Also, my recommendations to buyers were not directed at you specifically, but only to state that buyers might want to avoid purchasing from sellers who ship from undeclared, do not have the product in hand, use a re-shipper etc. and regarding adderall/dexedrine, to keep an eye out for trusted sellers that pop up from time to time with reasonable prices.

I replied to this thread in response to the op and other buyers that experienced problems with adderall from outlaw303 which was the original topic. If I recall, you jumped in to let people know you also sell adderall, that is fine, but I have every right to state my opinions as others have while this thread developed. I'll accept any reasonable explanation as to why I shouldn't be concerned with buying from sellers that use re-shippers or don't have the product in hand, but at this time I still think it is a bad idea. So maybe my last post wasn't as clear as I intended, I hope this one is... it is a complicated thing to describe as is apparent because you thought I was accusing you of doing something wrong... sorry for the confusion that was not my intent. As far as I know my grammar is damn near perfect... and I did not understand the first sentence of your last paragraph.
Title: Re: Watch out for FAKE adderall just received some
Post by: williambloomberg on April 24, 2012, 04:35 pm
Larghetto,

Just wanted to point out that indeed you were correct and the others were wrong, the product you are selling is NOT a racemic mixture.

English is not my native language but I'll try my best.

I know about this because, let's just say, it's part of my line of work in a major pharmaceutical company.

You stated the contents of your pills are:

1/4 dextroamphetamine saccharate
1/4 dextroamphetamine sulfate
1/4 (racemic dextro/levo-)amphetamine aspartate monohydrate
1/4 (racemic dextro/levo-)amphetamine sulfate

The contents of pharmacopoeic Generic Adderall are:

Dextroamphetamine Saccharine (CAS NUMBER 87-73-0)
Amphetamine Aspartate Monohydrate (CAS NUMBER 25333-81-7)
Dextroamphetamine Sulfate USP (CAS NUMBER 51-63-8)
Amphetamine Sulfate USP (CAS NUMBER 60-13-9)

So first of all your product, if it contains what you state, is exactly what you get if you buy Adderall IR at the pharmacy.

It is VERY IMPORTANT to note that it IS NOT a racemic mixture, for it to be a racemate or racemic mixture it needs to have 50% levo- 50% dextro- of one or more salts. Your product is a formulation of mixed racemic amphetamine and dextroamphetamine. In fact it contains (in a very simplified statement):

75% dextroamphetamine (sulfate and saccharate)
25% levoamphetamine (sulfate and aspartate monohydrate)

*I stress the term racemic for didactic effects, but when a mixture is racemic it is usually not indicated.

Whis is this important?

1) Because the effect of a mixture of such salts has very different pharmacodynamics (neurological and bioactive) effects than those of a racemic mixture.

A racemate would be what you find in street "speed", not in pharmaceutical grade therapeutic Adderall. Totally different things.

If I recall correctly (I might be a bit wrong on this) dextroamphetamine is largely responsible for the nootropic and stimulant effect while levoamphetamine is responsible mostly for the euphoric effect. Some of us do not want or need the euphoric effect, just the stimulation for our ADHD or to have our mental abilities enhanced. Also, it's much harder to develop tolerance and dependence if it contains lesser ammounts of levoamphetamine. That's why Adderall is different. (And that's why there's a formulation made of only dextroamphetamine called Dexedrine)

Street speed usually contains only a racemic mixture of (dextro/levo)amphetamine sulphate.

2) It's much harder to produce a mixture such as the one in your product, as it involves several more steps, than just a conventional single salt product such as that in street speed.

I just bought your product but at first I was reluctant as I suspected it was only speed branded as Adderall. Now I'm convinced. I would suggest you clarify the information contained on the product's page.

Hope you don't get scared by my pharma background as others have done and if you have any pharmaceutical question don't hesitate to ask me.

Cheers,

Dr. William Bloomberg, MsC PhD