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Title: 2CB before MDMA, experiences? Tips? Advice?
Post by: XxWINxX94x23 on January 21, 2013, 04:59 am
Fellow community members,

Got a sick dubstep show coming up soon and thinking about doing a 2CB + MDMA mix.

I have 30mg of nawlins 2-CB and some SuperTrips 120mg Green ?'s.

I have consumed the 2-CB at a 25mg dose by itself before and have experienced many traditional psychedelic effects: vibrant colors, patterns in objects appearing to pulse or move, etc. I have done it 2 times before, so I have a little experience.

Have not done the ?'s but have been rolling for about a year on and off, so experience in that field too.

Now, at this show I want to consume 30mg 2-CB first, then a few hours later 1 or 2 of the ? tabs, based on how I feel. Traditionally, I see many reviews about taking the 2-CB AFTER the MDMA. I wish to do the opposite, because I don't want to be full out tripping when i come home from the show. Now, unless there is a really bad reason to, maybe if they cancel each other out or something of that sort, I will reconsider the combination.

Personally, the desired effect is a somewhat psychedelic roll with stimulation, as I try to envision the combination from taking the substances separate in my previous experiences.

So, 30mg 2-CB and then a few hours later 120+mg MDMA, does anyone have any experience or comments on this mix?

I would love to hear any advice, trip reports or tips regarding 2-CB THEN MDMA combo.

Thanks!
 
Title: Re: 2CB before MDMA, experiences? Tips? Advice?
Post by: Martian313 on January 21, 2013, 06:54 am
Ive done what your thinking about, the same dose strength, but with 2c-i.  I know it's a bit different but I did it at a music festival, and it was truly one of the most amazing days of my life.  And i've candy flipped many a time but this was totally different, clear and defining in my life.  Def. space the two apart.  When i was on the 2ci i felt like i was meant to add mdma to the mix.  Like it was "designed" for that.  Well shit, Pretty Lights late night show might have helped in it all but it was honestly amazing. 
Title: Re: 2CB before MDMA, experiences? Tips? Advice?
Post by: sickboy on January 21, 2013, 07:32 am
Nothing wrong with taking the 2C-B first. It greatly enhances music appreciation. I would take the 2C-B early so that I have a nice trip going throught the show.
Title: Re: 2CB before MDMA, experiences? Tips? Advice?
Post by: towelie on January 21, 2013, 07:37 am
In my experience and that of many others, taking 2C-B before your roll will negate some of the effects of the molly. So, molly first with the 2C-B at about t+2 hrs and enjoy :D
Title: Re: 2CB before MDMA, experiences? Tips? Advice?
Post by: XxWINxX94x23 on January 21, 2013, 07:39 am
Ive done what your thinking about, the same dose strength, but with 2c-i.  I know it's a bit different but I did it at a music festival, and it was truly one of the most amazing days of my life.  And i've candy flipped many a time but this was totally different, clear and defining in my life.  Def. space the two apart.  When i was on the 2ci i felt like i was meant to add mdma to the mix.  Like it was "designed" for that.  Well shit, Pretty Lights late night show might have helped in it all but it was honestly amazing.

Interesting! Yes I would definitely be spacing them out. Probably drop the 2-CB a half hour before I get to the show, then wait about 3 hours or so depending on how I feel and drop a ?.

Thanks for the insight!

Title: Re: 2CB before MDMA, experiences? Tips? Advice?
Post by: XxWINxX94x23 on January 21, 2013, 07:43 am
In my experience and that of many others, taking 2C-B before your roll will negate some of the effects of the molly. So, molly first with the 2C-B at about t+2 hrs and enjoy :D

See my problem is, I'm not sure if I want to be tripping when I go home. I have a few more doses of 2-CB, maybe I could re-dose on that?
Do like a 30mg 2-CB, wait 2 hours then a ?, wait another 2 hours, small dose of 2CB maybe nasally and top it off with another ? later.

Decisions, decisions. I suppose maybe I could just drop more ?'s if the effects seem to be less potent while on the 2-CB?

Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: 2CB before MDMA, experiences? Tips? Advice?
Post by: towelie on January 21, 2013, 08:05 am
In my experience and that of many others, taking 2C-B before your roll will negate some of the effects of the molly. So, molly first with the 2C-B at about t+2 hrs and enjoy :D

See my problem is, I'm not sure if I want to be tripping when I go home. I have a few more doses of 2-CB, maybe I could re-dose on that?
Do like a 30mg 2-CB, wait 2 hours then a ?, wait another 2 hours, small dose of 2CB maybe nasally and top it off with another ? later.

Decisions, decisions. I suppose maybe I could just drop more ?'s if the effects seem to be less potent while on the 2-CB?

Thanks for the input.
How long is the show? If you're going to be out 5 hours you should be good.

You should visit erowid and check the 2C-B/MDMA combo experiences.  There is so much more there than I can possibly offer.  All I can say is, know what and how much you're taking. Have you tested the ?'s or read any reports on them? 

I've done this combo about a dozen times now. I've tried the two @ the same time and was unimpressed, bees first with molly an hour or so in and it was nice. But for me the way I described was most pleasurable.

To reiterate. Read and test and then read again.  Know what you're getting in to and be safe and have fun.

Enjoy the show,
T
 
Title: Re: 2CB before MDMA, experiences? Tips? Advice?
Post by: XxWINxX94x23 on January 21, 2013, 05:44 pm
In my experience and that of many others, taking 2C-B before your roll will negate some of the effects of the molly. So, molly first with the 2C-B at about t+2 hrs and enjoy :D

See my problem is, I'm not sure if I want to be tripping when I go home. I have a few more doses of 2-CB, maybe I could re-dose on that?
Do like a 30mg 2-CB, wait 2 hours then a ?, wait another 2 hours, small dose of 2CB maybe nasally and top it off with another ? later.

Decisions, decisions. I suppose maybe I could just drop more ?'s if the effects seem to be less potent while on the 2-CB?

Thanks for the input.
How long is the show? If you're going to be out 5 hours you should be good.

You should visit erowid and check the 2C-B/MDMA combo experiences.  There is so much more there than I can possibly offer.  All I can say is, know what and how much you're taking. Have you tested the ?'s or read any reports on them? 

I've done this combo about a dozen times now. I've tried the two @ the same time and was unimpressed, bees first with molly an hour or so in and it was nice. But for me the way I described was most pleasurable.

To reiterate. Read and test and then read again.  Know what you're getting in to and be safe and have fun.

Enjoy the show,
T

Yes the total time I will be at the show is 5 hours, minimum. I've looked at erowid experience vault but will do some more research on the combo. The ?'s have not been tested, but while I will be taking the 2-CB, some friends will be taking the ?'s and could give me the heads up if for some strange reason they are bunk.

Thanks for the advice! I will update this thread with my experience, what I took and how everything went sometime next week after the show.
Title: Re: 2CB before MDMA, experiences? Tips? Advice?
Post by: Thirdplace on January 24, 2013, 10:07 pm
I've heard of 2C-B after MDMA but not the other way around.  Honestly I LOVE taking them at the same time.  Keep in mind they both have synergistic effects on one another and they will amplify(by multiplying, not adding) each other's effects.  That said, 125mg MDMA and 17-19mg of 2C-B is BEAUTIFUL and lasts for ~ 6 hours in my experience without any redosing or even desire to, really.
Title: Re: 2CB before MDMA, experiences? Tips? Advice?
Post by: XxWINxX94x23 on January 24, 2013, 10:25 pm
I've heard of 2C-B after MDMA but not the other way around.  Honestly I LOVE taking them at the same time.  Keep in mind they both have synergistic effects on one another and they will amplify(by multiplying, not adding) each other's effects.  That said, 125mg MDMA and 17-19mg of 2C-B is BEAUTIFUL and lasts for ~ 6 hours in my experience without any redosing or even desire to, really.

Thats what I was thinking too. One of the pills got chipped in my ST order, so I'm thinking about throwing the chipped pieces in the 2-CB capsule. They aren't much/not a full pill, but would probably go well with my heavier 2CB dose.
Title: Re: 2CB before MDMA, experiences? Tips? Advice?
Post by: Thirdplace on January 25, 2013, 06:36 pm
That's a great idea. ST's bombs are THE BOMB! ;)

Seriously though, I've never had anything come anywhere CLOSE to his white speakers!  The red's are aright and honestly, I've never had the greens.  I'd say you can't go wrong with that combo. :D 
Title: Re: 2CB before MDMA, experiences? Tips? Advice?
Post by: XxWINxX94x23 on January 27, 2013, 03:34 pm
So I tested out said combination and got mixed results. The initial come-up and first hour was pretty cool, lots of weightlessness and buzzing, but after that it started to get pretty mental and intimate. More intimate than I would have liked to been at this event. I was tripping pretty hard off of 30mg and would not recommend that dose for beginners! Eventually, I popped a green ? about 2.5 hours into the 2-CB trip. They ended up fusing together quite well after that. About 3 hours into all this my, my mental state started to be overcome with euphoria, empathy, and energy, all which I get when I roll. 2 hours after that, I popped another Green ?, and this one really got me going. It seems like the rolls kind of killed the psychedelic, which, was good for me at the time because I was kind of tripping out. However, I would not recommend the 2-CB before MDMA combo in a social/indoor concert setting.
Title: Re: 2CB before MDMA, experiences? Tips? Advice?
Post by: Thirdplace on January 28, 2013, 11:21 pm
I think they're great in the mentioned setting.  I just think you took too much and were a little overwhelmed. It's cool, it happens to everyone sometimes.  That's why I like some xanax to have on hand with large doses.