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Title: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: TheProfessor on March 01, 2012, 08:11 pm
I been going through feedback through various sellers and tony76 has 14 pages of early finalization in the past 2 days

Id be weary, when will the community learn that finalizing early is pretty much handing your money away. not saying he is just yet he could come through but this has been seen time and time again
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: tony76 on March 01, 2012, 08:16 pm
Here we go again...

Can the mods please do something about this shit? I have developed a fan group waging a full out smear campaign on me (most likely other vendors)

Did you check and notice that i am the #2 seller on SR? so many the ratio of Early finalizations / sales is the exact same as every other vendor?

I'm sorry i don't have a million dollar float to let every single new buyer stay in escrow..

I'm one of the few vendors who will even deal with buyers who have 0 purchase history.. I have to get them to finalize early to protect myself
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: tony76 on March 01, 2012, 08:19 pm
I also don't make early finalization mandatory for anyone who has over 10 transactions..

Anyone above 10 transactions has the option of staying in escrow..



I have this guy scaring people into thinking i'm about to pull a scam

I have user Anon911 scaring people into thinking my LSD is cut with RC's that will kill them, and linking to stories about people dying from doing acid

I have user legit2quit messaging me on SR telling me he's giving a bunch of information about me to the DEA and FBi


This is really starting to piss me off
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: indiehipster on March 01, 2012, 08:25 pm
Lol people always want something to complain about....     I can't speak for anyone else,  but personally, I can vouch for Tony...  People have their own reasons for finalizing early (new buyer, under 10 transactions, whatever)

 I early finalize with him every time because he as HOOKED ME UP multiple times with some extra product beyond what was expected, he always sends out my stuff really fast, his product is really high quality, etc.   I finalize early as a favor because after awhile of doing business (all successful businesses , to grow, need to maintain either a line of credit or sufficient cash flow), and I trust him to come through.   

But this is MY decision to make and I think it's ridiculous people are complaining.  If you don't want to finalize early , go get some feedback from another vendor and stay in escrow.   
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: TheNewDude on March 01, 2012, 08:27 pm
 :o

You mean a seller is having people finalize early in order to protect himself and maintain funding necessary to maintain supply...

Say it isn't so...

Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: radioheadfan5 on March 01, 2012, 08:28 pm
As a newbie SRer who just ordered some H from Tony, I will say that I have the utmost confidence that he will come through with flying colors. This is why SR has a feedback system, and why it allows buyers to change their feedback after receiving their product. Tony has a fantastic reputation for reliable delivery and high quality product, and I also appreciate his willingness to do business with new buyers like myself. Sure, if Tony wants to screw some people over in theory he could, but he's got a great business going here and why would he want to fuck that up? Ever think about that, Professor?
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: Holly on March 01, 2012, 08:29 pm
Tony's so legit that we finalize early so it benefits him.  Gtfo hoe
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: Fbu on March 01, 2012, 08:31 pm
I've never ordered from him and even I respect him as a seller lol
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: baxterbrew on March 01, 2012, 08:35 pm
Tony is LEGIT. Sick of reading about this, just like everyone else is. Ignore
 
I been going through feedback through various sellers and tony76 has 14 pages of early finalization in the past 2 days

Id be weary, when will the community learn that finalizing early is pretty much handing your money away. not saying he is just yet he could come through but this has been seen time and time again

that. That's all
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: rednelb1 on March 01, 2012, 08:38 pm
haters gonna hate.

go stealth for awhile.

and Im gonna go on continuing to buy from you. And If I want to FE, I'LL FUCKING DO IT!!!


suck my balls. tony kicks ass.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: napoleanbonaparte2 on March 01, 2012, 08:40 pm
He has 99.9% positive feedback on over 500 transactions, I think he's earned our trust and more so.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: tony76 on March 01, 2012, 08:48 pm
Professor.... Let me shamelessly show you why people trust me

I had requests to start selling acid.. I don't know anything about acid..

However my customers wanted it, so i set out to find a connection for acid.. Now keep in mind i don't know anything about acid, i have never sold it, and i have never tried it..

I found a connection for it..

I told people that it was thru a friend of a friend, and that i trusted my friends opinion..

I listed the acid and it sold out within 5 days..

Another user Anon911, like yourself, tried to cause some panic and turned my thread about offering acid into 9 pages of scare propaganda trying to scare people into thinking it would be RCs and linking to stories about people who died from using fake acid etc.. all this before anyone even got it into their hands..

Now if you check the LSD thread, it looks like respected LSD user Holly just reagent tested it, and it went straight to purple confirming presence of LSD.


If i was a scammer, i wouldn't have put acid for sale and told everyone i had no idea what it was or if it was real or not.. I would have just done a massive sheet sale and then taken off with the money. If i haven't proven by now that i am to be trusted, then i don't know what else i can do.

Just please know, that thread titles like the "Tony76 wtf?" are damaging to my business/reputation for no good reason.


Cheers.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: wretched on March 01, 2012, 08:50 pm
I have to say that with your early finalization requirement, 10 is a bit high for transaction requirement, but it appears you are doing your business right, people seem to like your product and service, so I won't judge you. I think you should add to the line about requiring early Finalization that you do not want them to leave feedback until they receive their packs. that will cut down on the "finalizing early" feedback that does cause concerns (especially in the LSD section). If you add that as a requirement, you wouldn't have to deal with as much backlash for the amount of FE feedback you are getting.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: themessenger2 on March 01, 2012, 08:53 pm
This is why the forums are important. Check your vendors out before buying and then buy with confidence.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: TheProfessor on March 01, 2012, 08:57 pm
you have been here for one month, what trust is there

People can decide to scam in a whim, seller wakes up one day and says fuck it others have done it so you proved yourself once that is all the more reason to run just putting my 2 cents
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: padawan65 on March 01, 2012, 08:58 pm
Tony must be do something right to have 14 pages of orders in last 2 days - obviously trusted by a lot of people.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: Holly on March 01, 2012, 09:00 pm
you have been here for one month, what trust is there

People can decide to scam in a whim, seller wakes up one day and says fuck it others have done it so you proved yourself once that is all the more reason to run just putting my 2 cents

This is true, but for now Tony's my main man.  I hope he stays on here untli the end of bumblefuck.  :P
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: novakane on March 01, 2012, 09:01 pm
stop hatin on tony. buy from him and be converted like the rest of us ~200 fans.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: Holly on March 01, 2012, 09:05 pm
My psychic friends tell me he's going to have #1 status very soon 0.0
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: msween27 on March 01, 2012, 09:06 pm
@TheProfessor

If you don't want to order from him, don't.  Your loss.  Stop wasting everyone's time.  Tomy76 made my first purchase on SR very enjoyable and I had no problem finalizing early.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: wretched on March 01, 2012, 09:10 pm
that is fine, but why leave a feedback that says "finalizing early", just finalize, then when the product shows up, go update your feedback. leave your 5/5 and leave some meaningful comment about your experience.

you all do realize that you do not have to rate your purchase the second you finalize it right? then tony can have the money, and you can leave accurate statements about your purchase.

then threads like this don't exist, so it is easier for everyone
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: msween27 on March 01, 2012, 09:16 pm
I admit that I leave "finalizing early" in the comment box, not unlike most of the people on SR.  I only do that because that's the description of the order at that time, there just isn't a whole lot to report on.  I suppose you could comment on the communication or response time, but I don't see anything wrong with it.  What's the big deal???
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: jewfro on March 01, 2012, 09:21 pm
I been going through feedback through various sellers and tony76 has 14 pages of early finalization in the past 2 days

Id be weary, when will the community learn that finalizing early is pretty much handing your money away. not saying he is just yet he could come through but this has been seen time and time again

yo. i've been going through a lot of thinking, and i think you should be wary about when you open your mouth, since you seem to spew shit out of it, whenever you do so.

you don't wanna order from tony? DON'T; GO FUCK YOURSELF. NO ONE'S ASKING YOU TO. NO ONE'S ASKING FOR YOUR OPINION, EITHER.

STFU/GTFO.

stupid cock.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: wretched on March 01, 2012, 09:22 pm
why leave anything? just click finalize. then navigate away from the next page, then when you get your order, go to the orders page, and leave your rating and feedback. then new, nervous customers don't have to navigate through pages of FE feedback to read a comment about an actual order received! And I am not just talking about tony, but I think any seller who requires FE should make the statement that they only want rated on receipt.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: tony76 on March 01, 2012, 09:24 pm
that is fine, but why leave a feedback that says "finalizing early", just finalize, then when the product shows up, go update your feedback. leave your 5/5 and leave some meaningful comment about your experience.

you all do realize that you do not have to rate your purchase the second you finalize it right? then tony can have the money, and you can leave accurate statements about your purchase.

then threads like this don't exist, so it is easier for everyone

Finalizing early is better to leave than to leave it blank. Leaving it blank could just mean he was fully satisfied but had no comment to make so he made it 5  out of 5 and left the comment blank.

Since you can update feedback as much as you want its better to put "finalizing early" and then update it when you receive..

Keep in mind, if someone is fully happy with their order they will often just never update it again... However, if they are unhappy with their purchase you can bet your bottom dollar that they will message you and if you don't make it right they will leave you a bad feedback..

So all a person has to do is scroll back thru the feedback and see if they are all positive back there as well..


Either way, this thread is out of line and the thread title is misleading and could be a bad impression on someone who is thinking about ordering from me.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: idryfloods on March 01, 2012, 09:45 pm
OK "Mr Professor" first, why dont you go fuck yourself...yea I said it!  What if someone went on the suspicious buyers thread, and said you were a potential scammer???  Obviously you've never dealt with tony76, so you should keep your paranoid opinions to yourself!  If you dont want to order from tony, then don't, but I think I speak for many fans of tony when I tell you to shut the fuck up, and go home with your bullshit!
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: wretched on March 01, 2012, 09:45 pm
right, but it won't be blank if they don't submit the feedback. it will still release their funds, but the next time they go to their orders screen, it will be waiting for them just like it is after they click the finalize button. I am not saying leave blank feedback, I am saying don't submit it at all until you get your order.

that said, I hope you continue to offer LSD at reasonable prices, and I hope you do well here
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: flyspray on March 01, 2012, 09:48 pm
Im a newbie so the proff wont want to know what I think. Theres 2 guys saying tony might be dodgy, then hundreds and hundreds of happy customers saying tony is the man. Do the math. If its too hard ask the proff for some help.

Fuck'em tony. Dont let'em do your head in and keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: wretched on March 01, 2012, 09:52 pm
I just want to be clear that I do NOT think tony is scamming, just showing a way that his fans can help protect him from these accusations
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: methyboy on March 01, 2012, 09:56 pm
I been going through feedback through various sellers and tony76 has 14 pages of early finalization in the past 2 days

Id be weary, when will the community learn that finalizing early is pretty much handing your money away. not saying he is just yet he could come through but this has been seen time and time again




Wow really are you serious you fucking cunt! Go find something else to do with your free time instead of speaking out of your ass you dipshit! TONY is an amazing vendor and shouldnt have to deal with your noobish childish nonsense. If you dont like it go order off fucken blackmarket cause it seems scum like you should belong over there!! Fucken faggot! Ahhh people are pissing me off on the silkroad lately. Now professor shit for brains go be a prick elsewere you stupid turd 
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: cuba on March 01, 2012, 10:02 pm
i honestly feel bad for tony. he's done everything in his power to prove he's a good guy and reliable vendor with great product. if being #2 vendor doesn't prove it, and the giant thread of his on reviews doesnt either, idk what willl.. i've never bought from tony but plan to in the future. he is a good guy and curtious to his custy's. stop hating please, i dont wanna see a perfectly good reliable vendor leave.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: MailMaxDev on March 01, 2012, 10:06 pm
Tony, it's not worth getting defensive and stressing over these people. Silk Road is smart enough to not dismiss the #2 seller on the site because of a few of trolls on the forums. Your reputation speaks for itself.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: flyspray on March 01, 2012, 10:08 pm
Watch how fast this thread will fill up with abuse for the proff.

That says something.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: Mercury on March 01, 2012, 10:30 pm
BOTTOM LINE: Tony said from the very start that he isn't experienced with LSD and that he put his trust in a friend who DOES know LSD. Given the honesty of Tony saying he is unfamiliar with acid and that he did not personally test his product, anyone who bought some took a conscious chance.... Don't want to take the risk of receiving RCs? Don't buy any. Fuck this speculation though. I personally bought 2 strips because it was a great price and Tony is a PRO. I expect he has some good LSD.

He could've just been like some SR vendors and said out of his ass "this is some headdy blotter 400ug per hit clean-as-a-whistle shit" and sold ten strips for quadruple what they were going for, but he's not that kind of vendor.  He went out to find doses by CUSTOMER REQUEST and those customers bought up his WHOLE STOCK before a single review was even posted... that alone says something.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: fisher on March 01, 2012, 10:39 pm
Tony76 has been here a month and most of the people defending him have low post counts. not all but most of them do. the newbs defending the newbs.
the ones getting more worked up anyways
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: thomasjefferson on March 01, 2012, 10:47 pm
Ever consider low post counts are designed for anonymity and prevent identity cross correlation attacks?   
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: hitch22 on March 01, 2012, 10:50 pm
I think it's hilarious when these trolls try and fuck with Tony's rep and then the entire thread is filled with everyone raving about how awesome Tony is! Tony is by far my favorite and imo the most professional seller on SR. These threads really end up helping Tony even more, because no legitimate buyers ever have any complaints and have nothing but great things to say about him.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: CrankedTo11 on March 01, 2012, 11:04 pm
I been going through feedback through various sellers and tony76 has 14 pages of early finalization in the past 2 days

Id be weary, when will the community learn that finalizing early is pretty much handing your money away. not saying he is just yet he could come through but this has been seen time and time again

 ::)

Having ordered coke and heroin from Tony (and finalizing early both times), there is nothing even remotely sketchy about the guy. His dope is insanely great. Reasonable prices. Great shipping. I will continue to finalize early, as it means more money in Tony's pocket sooner, which means more product in his store earlier. That's a courtesy I extend to all the vendors whose honesty and integrity have been backed up by their customers.

You're much less likely to lose money here than you are trying to "invest" it on Wall Street.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: dr gonzo on March 01, 2012, 11:06 pm
Really hate to see stuff like this being directed at  such a solid vendor who seems to have proven beyond any doubt that he is 100% committed to this shit, for real, Tony's  blood type is SILK motherfucking ROAD!! I have this theory that Tony is actually a group of 10 people all equally dedicated to fulfilling each and every one of our whims! I mean really, how can one person be any more on top of it? Tony please ignore this BS and keep on trucking brother.  ;D
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: Ondine on March 01, 2012, 11:32 pm
pay no attention to the haters, they close minded and swaggerless
-hugh hefner
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: big green on March 01, 2012, 11:49 pm
It sounds like "TheProfessor" has a PhD in Bullshit Artistry. Someone delete this miserable piece of shit thread.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: BuddyRoyale on March 01, 2012, 11:56 pm
My psychic friends tell me he's going to have #1 status very soon 0.0

My psychic friends disagree, Pharmville will be dam near impossible to beat out.  But there is no reason to worry tony, everyone averagely experience buyer realizes that you are a stand up guy and that you sell quality products and is willing to debunk crap threads like this.  Keep up the good work :)
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: stza on March 02, 2012, 12:02 am
Tony's the man. Totally 100% legit. The professor and this thread are bogus.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: baxterbrew on March 02, 2012, 01:29 am
Tony's the man. Totally 100% legit. The professor and this thread are bogus.

+1
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: 2513415 on March 02, 2012, 03:43 am
I have over 10 transactions and I still finalize early for Tony. He has came through for me before and I have complete confidence in him. Just placed another order. He is one of the best SR has to offer. Do your research on people and you can see who is the real deal. Tony76 is one of the best on the site. Cheers!
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: danksmagee88 on March 02, 2012, 06:11 am
Here we go again...

Can the mods please do something about this shit? I have developed a fan group waging a full out smear campaign on me (most likely other vendors)

Did you check and notice that i am the #2 seller on SR? so many the ratio of Early finalizations / sales is the exact same as every other vendor?

I'm sorry i don't have a million dollar float to let every single new buyer stay in escrow..

I'm one of the few vendors who will even deal with buyers who have 0 purchase history.. I have to get them to finalize early to protect myself

You tell him Tony! Sorry to kick a dead horse but hes earned our trust. Unlike the professor (who clearly didnt grad hs) tony realizes he is going to make infinitely more $ making his huge customer base happy over a long period of time. I  think someone whos successfully invested in and sold topgrade items in every category and had the best customer service etc would be the last person to pull a scam like the professor mentioned.

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As a newbie SRer who just ordered some H from Tony, I will say that I have the utmost confidence that he will come through with flying colors. This is why SR has a feedback system, and why it allows buyers to change their feedback after receiving their product. Tony has a fantastic reputation for reliable delivery and high quality product, and I also appreciate his willingness to do business with new buyers like myself. Sure, if Tony wants to screw some people over in theory he could, but he's got a great business going here and why would he want to fuck that up? Ever think about that, Professor?

Dito. I haven't actually received from tony (quite yet) but i have full faith he will come through. SR's feedback system through ratings, threads, Fan options, and feedback comments is ingenious. Thank you so much whoevers responsible, and thank you tony for making this dream a reality.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: unknown79 on March 02, 2012, 07:28 pm
Silk Road ranking is based on a combination of both number of sales and the dollar amount of the sales. Tony76 is the #1 seller on Silk Road.

Tony76 has sold more in his one month on Silk Road than any other vendor has in the entire lifetime of the Silk Road.

If you can't trust someone handling the most money of anyone, who can you trust? I personally have ordered almost 1/2oz of molly and it was at my door in 5 days.. I promptly followed up with an order for a 10-strip.

At this point, the only harm Tony has done is his monopolization of North America. This is not a bad thing.
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: vipxtrmn8r on March 02, 2012, 08:12 pm
Tony is the man. Nothing but positive dealings with him. I have no problem with finalizing early. When I first got here I had the same concerns you have. Without even knowing Tony was going through this shit I actually mentioned that a lot of LSD these days is actually RC (Sorry Tony I hadn't read your other thread lol), but I mean if Tony is selling it it's going to be good. Look at his feedback. Dude has over 500 transactions and is #2 on SR for a reason.

Although a couple of these sellers could make away with a lot of cash in scams they stand to lose a lot more in steady income. No need to be slandering one of the most chill and easy to deal with guys on the site :P
Title: Re: Tony76 wtf?
Post by: flyspray on March 03, 2012, 08:38 pm
I feel a bit sorry for the proff now. I think he was just trying to say be careful with FE as it could end up with you losing your money, which is fair enough advice. Why he decided to pick one of the best, most popular, reputable vendors as an example and gave the thread the title 'tony76 wtf?' I have no idea. He should have just said it as general advice and not singled anyone out, or better still use an example of a vendor who did actually cut and run with ppls money after they FE.

Research and reading forums is the best protection against being stitched up by a dodgy vendor, especially for newbies who almost always have to finalize early.