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Title: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: dmtrip on February 04, 2013, 11:55 am
Recovering or currently in the throes of addiction? I obviously understand that there are a great deal of recreational drug users here on SR, but am curious how many of you suffer from a real physical dependency on your DOC. I am a drug addict in recovery at this time. Heroin. I am currently on a suboxone program and attempting to rebuild the life that heroin destroyed over the past 3 years.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: skinnydean on February 04, 2013, 12:08 pm
If you're an addict in recovery and you're hanging around here, you're not going to be very successful.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: DrugBuddy on February 04, 2013, 12:12 pm
I just posted in the other thread dmtrip but will repost here..

"thanks dmtrip. I hope you are ok.. especially here! Guessing you stay away from the H and dabble in a bit of the lighter stuff. Good that you can place those boundaries on your usage. It can run away easily.. especially with the SR grocery store. "
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: DrugBuddy on February 04, 2013, 12:25 pm
hey dmtrip, saw your reply and thought I'd reply here.

That's good. Generally speaking psychedelics aren't addictive. This is because they are usually fairly long experiences that can be draining and give you a lot of thinking time. They don't excite the reward system in the brain the same way, or the immune system like heroin, so the joy of it comes more form the insights and the experience.. and that can sometimes take a while sober to debrief and understand. Definitely not a day to day drug class :)
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: dmtrip on February 04, 2013, 12:26 pm
I replied in the other thread but will do the same here and quote myself. So that skinnydean can get a little more insight into my situation.

Quote
Thank you. I've recently gotten things under control. On a strict suboxone program, so seeing all the opiates on here doesn't effect me like it would have previously. Which i am very happy about. I am now trying to stick to my second love when it comes to drugs. Psychedelics.  :D Time to expand my mind instead of isolating it like i was doing when i was putting the needle in my arm.

skinnydean, i'm not sure if you are familiar with suboxone but it is an opiate blocker. So if I were to use, it would be a waste of my money because i wouldn't get high. So that greatly helps with the temptation of relapsing. And the suboxone is an opiate itself (a strong one too) so that takes care of the cravings. Once i get some coin, ill be using SR to purchase mostly psychedelics. Definitely staying off of the opiate listings.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: dmtrip on February 04, 2013, 12:32 pm
hey dmtrip, saw your reply and thought I'd reply here.

That's good. Generally speaking psychedelics aren't addictive. This is because they are usually fairly long experiences that can be draining and give you a lot of thinking time. They don't excite the reward system in the brain the same way, or the immune system like heroin, so the joy of it comes more form the insights and the experience.. and that can sometimes take a while sober to debrief and understand. Definitely not a day to day drug class :)

Exactly. I've dabbled in them from time to time, Salvia, LSD, mushrooms. And I just feel so enlightened afterwards. Like i've grasped a new and better understanding of life and the point of living. I absolutely love it. I've yet to try DMT and I am so excited. Some of my personal/spiritual beliefs are what some may consider "out there" but I believe that DMT will aid me greatly in my spiritual journey.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: charas420 on February 04, 2013, 12:35 pm
I have had an opiate habit most of my adult life, I am late 40s and on a slow reduction program, and  I mean Sloooow .
 I only do Brown now on very rare occasions and Smoke tons of Weed and Hash with a few Coke binges now and then.
 I still love the whole thing, and now I have stated using the road I an even keener, Oh and a few Es and MDMA when I can..

  C 
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: MyOtherNickIsAwesome on February 04, 2013, 12:45 pm
Hey man, I've been down the road you're talking of, and whether i'm completely off it is debatable :)

Smoked weed everyday for 6 years, and this is when some of you might say that "hey man, it's just weed, that stuff wont kill you!" ...well, trying to finish an education while smoking on a daily basis is not a good combination... at least not for me. I've had plenty of friends who are doing fine studying and smoking at the same time, getting good grades and all that jazz, these people became my idols...

...But then one day, i got caught redhanded with the ridiculous amount of 1.2g of weed on me in a random search. I got a huge fine and an even bigger eye opener. At first I was like "FUCK ALL COPS!! I HATE YOU ALL....all that jazz" ..but after a few days of calming down i sought professional help. It's been little over a year now, i finished my education, got extremely good grades compared to when I was in the weed haze and I'm now waiting for the summer to start on the study of my dreams.

So all in all, I've been a vegetable for 6 years cause of the weed.. don't follow my example.

The downside now though is that i'll have to wait a few more months to continue my studying, and I'm bored as hell, and ended up on Silk Road :p... i'm staying away from weed, cause I obviously don't have very good experience in that field, but I'm still fascinated by all the other chemicals in the list which can alter your brain state :D ..so even though I'm not an addict anymore, i'm still really interested in 'different experiences'. With that said I've learnt an important lesson, and I'm really struggling mentally every time I do drugs, and ask myself repeatedly "so are you an addict now?".

geeesh, i had some stuff bottled up here :)
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: charas420 on February 04, 2013, 12:54 pm
I feel for you man.
 
 But in my case I think weed saved me from the the gear. I grow my own so the supply is no issue and Sativa is my favorite.
C
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: kittenfluff on February 04, 2013, 12:59 pm
Recovering or currently in the throes of addiction? I obviously understand that there are a great deal of recreational drug users here on SR, but am curious how many of you suffer from a real physical dependency on your DOC. I am a drug addict in recovery at this time. Heroin. I am currently on a suboxone program and attempting to rebuild the life that heroin destroyed over the past 3 years.

Not an addict, but I'd be a little surprised if many proper addicts were here (as opposed to people who would be more described as 'dependant') as a) you need computer equipment most addicts would pawn, b) you need to be fairly 'with it' to navigate all the security and get BTC c) most addicts need it NOW, not waiting around for a shipment that may or may not turn up... but maybe I'm wrong; I have heard  from addicts I know ALOT of addicts are hidden, they hold down jobs and you'd never know, like Doctors and such....
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: dmtrip on February 04, 2013, 01:00 pm
I feel you for sure. I know a lot of people laugh at anyone who uses the term "marijuana addiction." But I know for a fact that you can become addicted to weed. While the marijuana itself does not have any addictive qualities, a person can absolutely become mentally dependent on the high it gives you. You won't be physically addicted, or dope sick if you don't smoke. But you can become mentally addicted to weed just as people can become addicted to food, sex, gambling, etc.

Good luck to you both, MyOtherNick and charas.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: android465764E on February 04, 2013, 01:04 pm
If you're an addict in recovery and you're hanging around here, you're not going to be very successful.


Agree 100%.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: charas420 on February 04, 2013, 01:07 pm
Thanks dmtrip, Its all good at the moment. Loving it here.
C
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: dmtrip on February 04, 2013, 01:14 pm
If you're an addict in recovery and you're hanging around here, you're not going to be very successful.


Agree 100%.

I'm sorry but I don't see how utilizing SR has an effect on the success rate of me staying clean.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: MyOtherNickIsAwesome on February 04, 2013, 01:15 pm
a) you need computer equipment most addicts would pawn, b) you need to be fairly 'with it' to navigate all the security and get BTC c) most addicts need it NOW, not waiting around for a shipment that may or may not turn up...

You have no idea what you're talking about.. As soon as drugs becomes a daily routine you start to work with, and infact you cannot function properly without it. I used to be under the impression that I couldn't do creative stuff without smoking weed, couldn't play games, couldn't pay my bills and so on. And this is what weed does to you, when you're an addict you only function when you're high.

I feel you for sure. I know a lot of people laugh at anyone who uses the term "marijuana addiction." But I know for a fact that you can become addicted to weed. While the marijuana itself does not have any addictive qualities, a person can absolutely become mentally dependent on the high it gives you. You won't be physically addicted, or dope sick if you don't smoke. But you can become mentally addicted to weed just as people can become addicted to food, sex, gambling, etc.

Good luck to you both, MyOtherNick and charas.

^^ this.. and it does get physical more or less in the longrun... After quitting I couldn't sleep well for like two months. Woke up like a million times every night, covered in sweat.. But that is probably nothing compared to the more physical drugs though, not sure how the final comedown is for other substances.

But yeah, add some social phobia to the mix and a weed habit suddenly makes you a vegetable in every possible way.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: PartTimeFiend on February 04, 2013, 01:20 pm
I have a REAL taste for opiates, but have never slipped into a cycle of regular (daily use).  I first tried H around 15 years ago and have been a dabbler ever since.  Originally me and my mates used it as a come down drug after we'd been out clubbing (and taken ecstasy).  An incredible combination, a sweet way to come down.  The H gradually got its claws into some of my mates and they became regular users, and a couple are still very much addicted.  Thankfully my personality is less addictive so I've managed to lead a good life and keep my "taste" in check.

The longest I've smoked brown for is around 5 days, and as expected I didn't feel very good for the next 3-4 days.  The golden rule (for me) is never do it for more than 1 days (24 hr period), and then try and have a couple of weeks off.  Unfortunately, once you've got that taste for opiates, it's hard to forget about them.  The SR probably isn't the best place to be hanging around and it's given me the opportunity to sample #4 heroin which I'd never had before. Very nice up the nose!

Fortunately, the smallest amount of H you can usually buy on SR is 0.5g, and with my 'part time' use and lower tolerance this is too much for me. A 0.5g bag is roughly equivalent to 3 x £20 street bags and would have me very battered for about 2-3 days, so I tend to avoid buying this amount unless going halves with a friend.  However, I occasionally get cheap 0.2 g samples off vendors.  This quantity suits my "24 hour rule" better!

So, I suppose I am an addict 'of sorts', but have got things under control. I mainly use the SR for other bits and pieces....  E's, 2CB's, Dexedrine, etc.  To be fair I need to tone everything down, the booze included.  Getting a bit too old for all this...  ;o)
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: android465764E on February 04, 2013, 01:21 pm
If you're an addict in recovery and you're hanging around here, you're not going to be very successful.


Agree 100%.

I'm sorry but I don't see how utilizing SR has an effect on the success rate of me staying clean.


Not a comment on you personally, I just mean that at SR a person is surrounded by temptation. Not everyone has strong will power. 
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: MyOtherNickIsAwesome on February 04, 2013, 01:26 pm
The longest I've smoked brown for is around 5 days, and as expected I didn't feel very good for the next 3-4 days.  The golden rule (for me) is never do it for more than 1 days (24 hr period), and then try and have a couple of weeks off.

This is a nice way to make sure you don't become a total addict, and as long as you make it work and don't overdo it, it'll be alright.. Just remember though that even though you can't feel the effect, your brain can.. And it'll take about a week after you smoked (2 if you smoked ALOT) before it's all out of your system and your brain reach normal functionality again. So if you smoke every weekend you'll get just as retarded as someone smoking on a daily basis, even though you will 'feel sober' during the week days, it really takes its toll in the longrun.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: MyOtherNickIsAwesome on February 04, 2013, 01:32 pm
I'd love to stay and chat about this all day, but I gotta get to work :D

Have a good day everyone (night for some), and do everything you can to stay off drugs during the weekdays :p

take care
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: PartTimeFiend on February 04, 2013, 01:33 pm
Recovering or currently in the throes of addiction? I obviously understand that there are a great deal of recreational drug users here on SR, but am curious how many of you suffer from a real physical dependency on your DOC. I am a drug addict in recovery at this time. Heroin. I am currently on a suboxone program and attempting to rebuild the life that heroin destroyed over the past 3 years.

Not an addict, but I'd be a little surprised if many proper addicts were here (as opposed to people who would be more described as 'dependant') as a) you need computer equipment most addicts would pawn, b) you need to be fairly 'with it' to navigate all the security and get BTC c) most addicts need it NOW, not waiting around for a shipment that may or may not turn up... but maybe I'm wrong; I have heard  from addicts I know ALOT of addicts are hidden, they hold down jobs and you'd never know, like Doctors and such....

A couple of my mates are proper addicts.  On daily methadone and using H daily.  They both hold down good jobs and are fairly active on the SR.  However, the SR annoys the hell out of them.  If they're expecting a big order of H to arrive and then it doesn't turn up in time for the weekend, it's a major stress.  People who are addicted are a lot less patient than most of us, so the unreliability of the post arriving is a much bigger deal for them! 
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: AussieMitch on February 04, 2013, 01:40 pm
I'm clean now, but I spent over a year binging everyday on Mephedrone and then 4 months everyday on MDPV, taking GBL every night to sleep. Quitting sucked, I was angry as fuck 24/7 and felt weird for a good year, but getting off the research stims was the best thing I ever did. Now it's just weed, alcohol and occasionally cocaine.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: NickNack on February 04, 2013, 01:46 pm
I too replied to you in that other thread... but I'll just get to the point:

Have you heard of Ibogaine?  If not, youtube it/research it.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: PartTimeFiend on February 04, 2013, 01:46 pm
The longest I've smoked brown for is around 5 days, and as expected I didn't feel very good for the next 3-4 days.  The golden rule (for me) is never do it for more than 1 days (24 hr period), and then try and have a couple of weeks off.

This is a nice way to make sure you don't become a total addict, and as long as you make it work and don't overdo it, it'll be alright.. Just remember though that even though you can't feel the effect, your brain can.. And it'll take about a week after you smoked (2 if you smoked ALOT) before it's all out of your system and your brain reach normal functionality again. So if you smoke every weekend you'll get just as retarded as someone smoking on a daily basis, even though you will 'feel sober' during the week days, it really takes its toll in the longrun.

I totally agree with you Nick. Using once a week, or every fortnight is still dangerous and too regular, despite being able to function at work.   Up until 6 months ago I was living in Australia, so have been away from my mates who still use regularly.  This was very good for me.  I would only smoke brown when I was back in the UK on business and catching up with old friends.  This limited my H usage to about once a year.  I never tried to score H in Sydney, even though I knew it was available.   However, in Australia I wasn't completely opiate free.  I broke a rib falling of my bike and the Dr prescribed me some Oxycodone!  I also got Panadene Forte from the dentist a few times.  I also learned the art of 'cold water extraction' for creating a strong codeine solution from over the counter paracetamol/codeine tablets....

Now I'm living back in the UK and have discovered the SR my usage (of all drugs) has gone back up.  Australia is definitely better for my health!   

cheer,

PTF
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: dmtrip on February 04, 2013, 01:49 pm
@PartTimeFiend: I can't even imagine being a full blown addict like i was just a short time ago and relying on SR shipments for my dope. I'm assuming that your mates have regular street dealers as well. But knowing myself, i would have freaked if i expected a shipment on a certain date and it didnt show. I was for sure an everyday user, with the withdraws hitting around 12-14 hrs after last use. So with that being said, I'm sure you can see why I'm so grateful that the SR was never my dealer.  :P I'm really happy to hear that you've been able to keep your H use in check. That little bender you spoke of, 5 days of use in a row then 3-4 days of dope sickness, was enough to show you that its not a pretty lifestyle huh. I'm glad.

@android465764: I understand what you are saying. But temptations surround me everywhere i go, not just on SR. The town i live in is going thru a heroin epidemic right now. We've got 12, 13, 14 year old boys and girls trying the needle for the first time. Overdosing. Just so sad.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: dmtrip on February 04, 2013, 02:09 pm
I too replied to you in that other thread... but I'll just get to the point:

Have you heard of Ibogaine?  If not, youtube it/research it.

See my reply in the other thread my man. Thanks.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: kittenfluff on February 04, 2013, 02:22 pm

You have no idea what you're talking about.. As soon as drugs becomes a daily routine you start to work with, and infact you cannot function properly without it. I used to be under the impression that I couldn't do creative stuff without smoking weed, couldn't play games, couldn't pay my bills and so on. And this is what weed does to you, when you're an addict you only function when you're high.



Yes I do. I have have a close family member who is a recovering H addict. I think that it has more to do with what I would consider an addict and what you would. I would not say someone who was "under the impression that [they] couldn't do creative stuff without smoking weed, couldn't play games, couldn't pay my bills and so on" was an addict, I would say they were dependent. You may feel it's splitting hairs somewhat, but I feel there is a difference - you may feel you need weed, but you can stop weed anytime suddenly in a way you cannot do if you are a crack or heroine addict. I know; I've smoked weed almost everyday for 10 years, but every now and then can't get any (maybe not now I have SR) and I do find it a little hard; poor sleep and concentration. But nothing like if someone stopped heroine or alcohol suddenly - can actually die... The difference I guess is one is a psychological addiction, one is a physiological addiction. When I said 'proper addicts' I meant people who were seriously physically addicted to a substance.

List of physically addictive substances, from Wiki (I know not the most definitive source, but the only one I could find fast. Agrees with most of what I'd heard before):

Quote from: Wiki

    All µ-opioids with any (even slight) agonist effect, such as (partial list) morphine, heroin, codeine, oxycodone, buprenorphine, nalbuphine, methadone, and fentanil, but not agonists specific to non-µ opioid receptors, such as salvinorin A (a k-opioid agonist), nor opioid antagonists or inverse agonists, such as naltrexone (a universal opioid inverse agonist)[5]
    All GABA agonists and positive allosteric modulators of both the GABA-A ionotropic receptor and GABA-B metabotropic receptor subunits, of which the following drugs are examples (partial list):
        barbiturates such as phenobarbital, sodium thiopental and secobarbital
        benzodiazepines such as diazepam (Valium), lorazepam (Ativan), and alprazolam (Xanax) (see benzodiazepine dependence and benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome)
        nonbenzodiazepines (z-drugs) such as zopiclone and zolpidem.[6]
        ethyl alcohol (alcoholic beverage) (cf. alcohol dependence, alcohol withdrawal, delirium tremens)[7]
        gamma-hydroxybutyric acid (GHB) and 1,4-butanediol[8]
        carisoprodol (Soma) and related carbamates (tybamate and meprobamate)
        baclofen (Lioresal) and its non-chlorinated analogue phenibut
        chloral hydrate
        glutethimide
        clomethiazole
        methaqualone (Quaalude)
    gabapentin (Neurontin) and pregabalin (Lyrica), calcium channel modifiers that affect GABA[9]
    antiepileptic drugs such as valproate, lamotrigine, tiagabine, vigabatrin, carbamazepine and oxcarbazepine, and topiramate[9][10][11]
    possibly neuroleptic drugs such as clozapine, risperidone, olanzapine, haloperidol, thioridazine, etc.
    commonly prescribed antidepressants such as the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) and serotonin-norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors (SNRIs) (cf. SSRI/SNRI withdrawal syndrome)[12][13][14]
    Nicotine[15]
    blood pressure medications, including beta blockers such as propanolol and alpha-adrenergic agonists such as clonidine[16][17]
    androgenic-anabolic steroids[18][19]
    glucocorticoids[20]
    Cocaine [21]

Drugs such as amphetamines (including methamphetamine and methylenedioxymethylamphetamine (MDMA)), cathinone, hallucinogens (such as LSD, psilocin, and mescaline), cannabis (tetrahydrocannabinol) do not cause physical dependency/physical addiction

Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: HerbalFarmer on February 04, 2013, 03:09 pm
wouldn't consider myself an addict, but definitely dependent on cannabis and caffeine, which are my daily drugs. I've had some experiences with tame opioids in the form of hydrocodone/codeine, and found myself taking them if i had them which led me to cut off my access to them before it became a habit and have me looking for something stronger. I enjoyed the minor 30 mins of bliss they gave me at first, but after 2-3 days use it didn't even do anything. I'd like to at least try H once or twice to see what the hype is about, but I'm extremely cautious about this as I've seen what it can do to people. It's something I would never want to make a habit out of. SR can definitely be a temptation, but so far I've been on here a while and have only bought mdma, herb, 25i, and a handful of stims, and those have been done responsibly.

I'm dying to try LSD for the first time, just waiting on the right time and opportunity. I love the variety of herb that's available, I now have access to the most elite bud in the country, and at much cheaper prices, it makes me respect what we have here. I grow my own mostly, but love the convenience and selection we have here.

Good vibes to everyone in here, and those we know who may be struggling with their demons.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: kittenfluff on February 04, 2013, 03:50 pm

I'm dying to try LSD for the first time,


Nice to hear! IMO everyone should try LSD!
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: dmtrip on February 04, 2013, 04:17 pm

I'm dying to try LSD for the first time,


Nice to hear! IMO everyone should try LSD!

For sure. So much enlightenment from such a tiny little square.  ;D
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: oheesawteewaya on February 04, 2013, 05:33 pm
I never considered myself an addict, but I guess I was. I was prescribed opiates for a back problem by my doc and soon became dependent. After about a year of feeling like crap and my
need for the drug ever increasing I decided to quit...Withdrawl was terrible of course. Eventually I tapered off using a combination of suboxone and Kratom. You have to be careful as both
those can be just as bad as the pain meds!
I feel much better now that I'm off the pain meds, and less depressed too. I do enjoy LSD, MJ, and alcohol recreationaly.
I try to follow the advice of the ancient Greeks. Everything in moderation!

Cheers
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: NorthernStar on February 04, 2013, 07:53 pm
Yes agreed, any drug is OK in moderation. I found with H you generally need to hit rock bottom ie homeless stealing I.V, you slip and you're self respect goes out of window. I always say if you could show an addict what he/she is going to be like in say 2 years down the line. Most people would be scared witless of turning into a full blown addict, and would avoid at all costs, that's the problem Imo, it's such a gradual decline to perdition, it's hardly noticeable. I found if you can use the heroin, and not let it use you. You have a fighting chance of maintaining a so called normal life, let it grip you by the neck and it will rag  you senseless and take you're money,pride,health,looks,family,self esteem, the list's endless as you guys know. A methadone script helps, also Subutex UK and Subxenoe US, can help you try and lead a normal life. It doesn't male things any easier with the quality of the gear on here ;D
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: NtrsBac on February 04, 2013, 07:59 pm
i smoke crack!
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: JohnSnow on February 04, 2013, 08:03 pm
Once upon a time, maybe. But now I just use this site for personal monetary gain.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: Kristo on February 04, 2013, 10:40 pm
Gotta admit I have some wd:s from opiates, gotta try to ease down after the next H shipment is dealt with. I've been waiting it since friday feeling quite sick and anxious, luckily got some bupre today, finally, after 4 days I can sleep properly and eat well, really hoping the shipment finally arrives tomorrow.

BTW: this would be only the second time using H for me, just really wanted to try the #4 after the lovely #3.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: Rav3n on February 04, 2013, 11:02 pm
The only substance I have been addicted to was nicotine. Luckily with a little self control I weaned myself off it and I'm glad I did.

I try to stay away from addictive substances. I only use SR for weed and MDMA, and I don't get it often. I have no interest in using coke, and know if I tried heroin or other opiates I'd probably want to keep doing it.

I'm all for trying new things, but I want to try things that will expand my mind and improve me, not leave me wanting more.
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: PartTimeFiend on February 05, 2013, 12:01 pm
@PartTimeFiend: I can't even imagine being a full blown addict like i was just a short time ago and relying on SR shipments for my dope. I'm assuming that your mates have regular street dealers as well. But knowing myself, i would have freaked if i expected a shipment on a certain date and it didnt show. I was for sure an everyday user, with the withdraws hitting around 12-14 hrs after last use. So with that being said, I'm sure you can see why I'm so grateful that the SR was never my dealer.  :P I'm really happy to hear that you've been able to keep your H use in check. That little bender you spoke of, 5 days of use in a row then 3-4 days of dope sickness, was enough to show you that its not a pretty lifestyle huh. I'm glad.


Yeah my mates who've been addicts for 15 years have a number of regular street dealer, so they've got that option to fall back on if a SR shipment doesn't arrive on time.  Unfortunately these guys have often miscalculated their finances.  All their drug money is tied up in a late SR order, and when that doesn't show they have to try and borrow cash so they can get gear from the street dealer.  One of them also had a £300 order of crack and smack not arrive, so he's massively stressed about that and is trying to organise the reship/refund with the vendor.  So all up it's a bit of a headache when getting heroin is a necessity.  These guys seem to be moving away from using the SR for these reasons!
Title: Re: Any drug addicts here?
Post by: PartTimeFiend on February 05, 2013, 12:09 pm
@PartTimeFiend: I can't even imagine being a full blown addict like i was just a short time ago and relying on SR shipments for my dope. I'm assuming that your mates have regular street dealers as well. But knowing myself, i would have freaked if i expected a shipment on a certain date and it didnt show. I was for sure an everyday user, with the withdraws hitting around 12-14 hrs after last use. So with that being said, I'm sure you can see why I'm so grateful that the SR was never my dealer.  :P I'm really happy to hear that you've been able to keep your H use in check. That little bender you spoke of, 5 days of use in a row then 3-4 days of dope sickness, was enough to show you that its not a pretty lifestyle huh. I'm glad.

@dmtrip

You're not wrong about my 5 day bender.  That was enough to know I can't go down that path.  I enjoy the good things in life too much.  To become an addict would be to lose my wife, my home, my job, my holidays and no doubt friends and family, not to mention my self-esteem and health.

All that said, I do have to admit that I am an addict (of sorts).  For me, the thing which that bad voice in my head whispers is this : "Go on, get some dope/opiates....  you haven't done any for 10 days, so you're clearly not a real addict. You're in control. You've been doing it on and off for 15 years and have never fucked up.... go on.... what's the problem...??"   That's the justification the addicted part of my brain makes every time, and to be fair it's a pretty compelling argument which the good half of my brain usually loses!   I am seriously looking at steps to change this behaviour, and avoiding the SR might be one of them.

Btw, dmtrip - with a name like that, do you have a preferred DMT vendor?  I haven't done any Dimitri for about 6 years and was toying with idea of getting some. The last stuff I did was straight from a Shamen in the Ecuadorian Amazon.  Incredible experience (apart from all the mozzie bites!).  I've seen synthetic smokeable DMT going on the road, but haven't seen the organic 'resin' variety (also smokeable) which I used to get from a mate in Liverpool many many years ago....  any pointers?