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Title: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: zvp1014 on April 12, 2013, 06:26 pm
Alright. So, I was browsing the LSD section and stumbled upon a seller misleadingly selling LSB within there, but I decided to purchase five tabs of it anyway. Then I get the following message-
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Hello friend .
I receive data from my product. My supplier make a mistake and this products its not LSB but LSZ -> there you have analysis http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ufzsqb&s=6 but dosage is for LSZ ( 50 ug - 300 ug) , its very rare lizergamide . I hope that you are not angry ;-) Its still good product
Cheers
So they apparently sent me 'LSV'. I have no idea if that's true or not, because from my research I've found that LSV is an LSD analogue that's supposed to be more potent.

If the drug worked I'd've still paid full money despite the deceit. Yet I took three tabs, and they tasted absolutely nasty- like the smell of acetone/nail polish remover. 45 minutes in, the trip started... I got ghost images when I moved my hands, some liquid-like distortion of words, but otherwise nothing and I didn't feel psychedelic. As it quickly wore off I redosed with two tabs which extended the trip an hour, but in the end all I got was a very boring trip from 11 to 2 (3 hours).

I messaged the seller saying that no, I wasn't happy with their product and wanted a refund. On their profile they list 75%-100% refund for buyers in good standing; yet I get the following message–
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Because its lizergamide what did you say on 50 % refund? its not any dox and nbome.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/8cc892ce1a

Which is fucking bullshit. I called the seller out and he said he'd give a 75% refund.

I feel I deserve my 100%. I don't think they purposefully scammed me, rather their dealer scammed them- but I paid a decent sum of money for a drug, and didn't receive that drug. Not only was the substitute not what I ordered but it was boring as fuck and left a bad taste in my mouth.

I've been scammed too many times to accept a non-complete refund for a piss poor product. I ordered ecstasy pills for me and a friend in separate addresses, neither arrived, 50% refund on each. Ordered 3 LSD candies from another seller, never came, 50% refund. Was involved in the Lucydrop Finalize Early scam, did receive ten tabs but taking all ten at once only lead to a mild trip; was told I'd receive more and didn't.

If I file for 100% and he doesn't accept it, what do you think the SR admins will decide? Have you had similar experiences, and how did they go? Thank you very much for your advice.

Edit: P.S.– another forum member with a post count not high enough to post outside of newbie messaged me, saying they'd bought twenty from the same seller with the same experience and message. If they file, do you think the admins will look at the two cases and decide that the seller is at fault?
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: zvp1014 on April 12, 2013, 09:53 pm
I presume this'll be drowned by bitcoin crash posts.

TL;DR edition:
Seller sent me wrong drug and admitted to it in SR messages. Drug sucked. I want 100% refund, seller will only give 75%. Will admins side with me for 100%?
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: caman420 on April 12, 2013, 11:08 pm
shit you what a bad run

fancy a free gram?

pm me

Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: zvp1014 on April 13, 2013, 01:18 am
shit you what a bad run

fancy a free gram?

pm me

XD Thanks, but what's the catch?

Daft Punk are gods btw.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: zvp1014 on April 14, 2013, 03:58 am
Any other thoughts?
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: eerva on April 14, 2013, 06:59 am
Only way to know is to put it into resolution. Selling the wrong drugs is pretty heavily frowned upon because it can be at best an unpleasant surprise and at worst dangerous. I'd swing for 100% and see what they say, but be prepared to be very patient.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: surmer on April 14, 2013, 08:36 am
shit you what a bad run

fancy a free gram?

pm me

I find these posts alarming, disturbing, nauseating. "Have a free gram" they say... Stay out of jail, I say... in a free market... where the dollar decides so many things....
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: Wotifbl on April 14, 2013, 02:49 pm
Based on your post, I would probably have been happy with the 50% refund, def the 75%.
I say that only because in your op you said you thought it was dodgy, but went ahead anyway.
You identified the wrong product, used it anyway, and got something for the experience  (albeit not what you wanted/paid for)

I am not saying you did anything wrong, just that you did get some value from the initial screwed up deal.

Sending the wrong product is obviously a huge mistake, but the vendor is trying to meet you somewhere north of middle.  If it were me, I would take that.

Then take it to another vendor.

You may get 100% from SR because it was the wrong product, but you could get 75% right now with no wait, no hassle. 
I am a bird in the hand kind of guy.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: fullofnicethings on April 14, 2013, 04:56 pm
Were you informed the drug was different before or after the transaction was finalised? I think there's a big difference between accepting it's different and having them sent anyway, and receiving drugs which you're then informed what you ordered. If the former, I'd say 75% is a good deal. If the latter it's less clear cut, but you did take them all anyway, so even then 75% back probably isn't that bad. It was 50/50 upon being informed they were different whether they'd be better or worse, you took the risk and it didn't pay off. I'd liken it to receiving a different meal at a restaurant, being told it's different, eating the whole thing anyway and deciding once you'd cleaned the plate that it was rubbish and you want your money back.

Tl:dr - I'd say 75% probably isn't a bad deal, take it.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: zvp1014 on April 14, 2013, 10:00 pm
Were you informed the drug was different before or after the transaction was finalised? I think there's a big difference between accepting it's different and having them sent anyway, and receiving drugs which you're then informed what you ordered. If the former, I'd say 75% is a good deal. If the latter it's less clear cut, but you did take them all anyway, so even then 75% back probably isn't that bad. It was 50/50 upon being informed they were different whether they'd be better or worse, you took the risk and it didn't pay off. I'd liken it to receiving a different meal at a restaurant, being told it's different, eating the whole thing anyway and deciding once you'd cleaned the plate that it was rubbish and you want your money back.

Tl:dr - I'd say 75% probably isn't a bad deal, take it.

Before finalization. I'd placed the order, it was shipped, then I was told it was 'LSV' (or whatever boring substance it was that lasted three hours with minor visual distortion). I'm still waiting for it to go into the resolution center so I can file for a refund.

I was sent the wrong product, and it did very little. Recently I've also had a string of bad luck; two simultaneous orders of partyflock x pills never came (one to a friend's address) so 50% refund on each, two orders in the Lucydrop scam where we received ten tabs as strong as a single one and were promised a reship that never came, three LSD candies from a seller that never arrived and I was given a 50% refund for...

And now this. I wasn't sent what I ordered and the sent material for all purposes didn't work.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: ModalSoul on April 14, 2013, 10:33 pm
Same thing happened to me. So you say the LSZ wasn't enjoyable? I'm wondering if I should take both of the tabs at once or just not take it all.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: zvp1014 on April 15, 2013, 06:51 am
Same thing happened to me. So you say the LSZ wasn't enjoyable? I'm wondering if I should take both of the tabs at once or just not take it all.

If it's from the same seller as me, and you want to feel anything- take all of it at once because it's an incredibly weak substance. Otherwise, due the responsible thing and not take it, then file for a refund.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: BenJesuit on April 15, 2013, 02:16 pm
Nope. You knew what you were getting into. Technically, you shouldn't get any refund at all since you knew ahead of time that the product was "dodgy." Own up to your risk taking. Don't transfer it to the vendor. Take responsibility for yourself.

Click accept for the 75% refund and move on.  It really is more than you deserve.

Why am I harshing on you? Because it's buyers like you that are ruining this place for buyers like myself who take personal responsibility for our actions.

Did the vendor fuck up? No, the vendor *is* a fuck up. You got into bed with a fucker and got fucked.  Why the surprise? And you're going to turn around and double fuck him back by hoping he loses 100%+ on the transaction and dole out a 1/5 when you knew ahead of time that things wouldn't work out? That makes you more fucked up that the fucked up vendor.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: Turkey for Breakfast on April 15, 2013, 05:31 pm
Did the vendor fuck up? No, the vendor *is* a fuck up. You got into bed with a fucker and got fucked.  Why the surprise? And you're going to turn around and double fuck him back by hoping he loses 100%+ on the transaction and dole out a 1/5 when you knew ahead of time that things wouldn't work out? That makes you more fucked up that the fucked up vendor.

I kinda disagree.. This seems to me to be not much different than a vendor listing LSD, then sending you a tic-tac. "Hey you got your fresh breath. You should settle for a 50% refund."

Look at it this way. The vendor agreed to send LSD. Sent something else and did not offer to make it right with a reshipment of what was purchased then a 100% refund should be granted. Play the scenario out hypothetically in many different ways and nearly every time I come to the same conclusion.

Vendor offers LSD and delivers cocaine... Well fuck, I didn't want cocaine, I don't use cocaine, I am not going to try to sell cocaine... Should still be eligible for 100% refund.

I could understand an argument against that where the buyer did get something valuable, but what is he supposed to do with it‽
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: phoboss on April 15, 2013, 06:17 pm
You ordered was told what the mix up was so you could've stopped and made the vendor cancel from there but nope you went along with it used the drug then complained now should you get a refund definitely NO, as you knew what you was getting into from the off and could've quite easily have stopped it but no you wanted this to happen knowing you could F, the vendor in the end if you even get 0.01% refund that's totally wrong and F, up cos I too had proof from do called messages between me snd a vendor I was 110% in the rite but SR admin still sided with the vendor at 0% for me and I got took for £130 even though I had proof there so like I said you knew from the off and your messages don't mean ish really if your being offered 75% and your here still trying boy your a good scam artist defo
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: BenJesuit on April 15, 2013, 08:35 pm
Did the vendor fuck up? No, the vendor *is* a fuck up. You got into bed with a fucker and got fucked.  Why the surprise? And you're going to turn around and double fuck him back by hoping he loses 100%+ on the transaction and dole out a 1/5 when you knew ahead of time that things wouldn't work out? That makes you more fucked up that the fucked up vendor.

I kinda disagree.. This seems to me to be not much different than a vendor listing LSD, then sending you a tic-tac. "Hey you got your fresh breath. You should settle for a 50% refund."

Look at it this way. The vendor agreed to send LSD. Sent something else and did not offer to make it right with a reshipment of what was purchased then a 100% refund should be granted. Play the scenario out hypothetically in many different ways and nearly every time I come to the same conclusion.

Vendor offers LSD and delivers cocaine... Well fuck, I didn't want cocaine, I don't use cocaine, I am not going to try to sell cocaine... Should still be eligible for 100% refund.

I could understand an argument against that where the buyer did get something valuable, but what is he supposed to do with it‽

You have to read the OP.

Normally, I'd agree with what you're saying but that's not how it went down. If I come across a vendor who's mislabeling or misrepresenting what they are selling, yet I took a chance and bought anyway, would you feel sorry for my dumb ass?
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: Turkey for Breakfast on April 15, 2013, 10:56 pm
You have to read the OP.

Normally, I'd agree with what you're saying but that's not how it went down. If I come across a vendor who's mislabeling or misrepresenting what they are selling, yet I took a chance and bought anyway, would you feel sorry for my dumb ass?

I went back and re-read the OP. It still reads like the vendor notified the buyer after the product was purchased and 'in transit.' So how could OP have done anything different really? I suppose he could have just thrown away what he received, but it's not like he could return it.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: Thunderweed on April 15, 2013, 11:20 pm
the principle of not getting 100% probably irks you but honestly just swallow the pride

It wasn't anyone's fault just an accident, be happy that you didn't lose much money
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: zvp1014 on April 16, 2013, 02:02 am
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Nope. You knew what you were getting into. Technically, you shouldn't get any refund at all since you knew ahead of time that the product was "dodgy." Own up to your risk taking. Don't transfer it to the vendor. Take responsibility for yourself.
Sorry to rain on your pretension (despite me thinking you mean well), but I've been scammed many times in the past. Lucydrop seemed like a reputable vendor by all accounts- but I finalized when I received tabs and they ended up being bunk, no reship; and that was two orders- one for a friend. Once ordered Ecstasy pills from a 300+ seller, 98% positive, again one order to me and one to a friend (in a completely different part of the country)- never received either order, 50% refund on each. Ordered 3 LSD candies from a 99% positive seller, 300+ transacs, different country from non-arrived X pills; package never came, 50% refund.

This time around I mistakenly ordered LSB (listed under the LSD section) as my eyes missed one letter. But then, after the item was shipped, the seller told me it's not LSB- it's LSV. Eventually we came to a refund agreement and the seller told me that they were retesting the tabs (I doubt it).

Perhaps you still perceive this is all my fault, despite the double deception. Regardless, I've decided to be more responsible with my bitcoin and just ordered some incredibly expensive tablets that are from a very well known, cleanest LSD, top-end seller- it cost an arm and a leg but I'm dying for the real stuff.

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You ordered was told what the mix up was so you could've stopped and made the vendor cancel from there but nope you went along with it used the drug then complained now should you get a refund definitely NO
Did you read? The package was already sent before I was told it was LSV. There was literally nothing I could do until the resolution center came up.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: thagoat on April 16, 2013, 07:57 pm
Damn bro, maybe you should just give up on SR for awhile, don't you think?

Seems to me like you're ultimately paying a bunch of money to get your butt hurt and your jimmies rustled.

You've gotta decide where to draw the line and cut your losses.

Sounds like now. Take that 75%, transfer it offsite, and sell the btc for cash. Go buy something IRL with the money. Don't forget to save your receipt.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: TheStealthyRacoon on April 16, 2013, 08:37 pm
Sounds like you have had a run of bad luck, or selective scamming.

Maybe create a new account, buy from really reputable sellers for a while, until your stats pack enough punch to be able to state your case in any future disputes.

I have only had one exp of being sent the wrong drug (2cb instead of 4acodmt), I cant for the life of me remember the vendors name but he was a complete gent about it and then sent me the correct order.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: BenJesuit on April 16, 2013, 08:57 pm
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Nope. You knew what you were getting into. Technically, you shouldn't get any refund at all since you knew ahead of time that the product was "dodgy." Own up to your risk taking. Don't transfer it to the vendor. Take responsibility for yourself.
Sorry to rain on your pretension (despite me thinking you mean well), but I've been scammed many times in the past. Lucydrop seemed like a reputable vendor by all accounts- but I finalized when I received tabs and they ended up being bunk, no reship; and that was two orders- one for a friend. Once ordered Ecstasy pills from a 300+ seller, 98% positive, again one order to me and one to a friend (in a completely different part of the country)- never received either order, 50% refund on each. Ordered 3 LSD candies from a 99% positive seller, 300+ transacs, different country from non-arrived X pills; package never came, 50% refund.

This time around I mistakenly ordered LSB (listed under the LSD section) as my eyes missed one letter. But then, after the item was shipped, the seller told me it's not LSB- it's LSV. Eventually we came to a refund agreement and the seller told me that they were retesting the tabs (I doubt it).

Perhaps you still perceive this is all my fault, despite the double deception. Regardless, I've decided to be more responsible with my bitcoin and just ordered some incredibly expensive tablets that are from a very well known, cleanest LSD, top-end seller- it cost an arm and a leg but I'm dying for the real stuff.

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You ordered was told what the mix up was so you could've stopped and made the vendor cancel from there but nope you went along with it used the drug then complained now should you get a refund definitely NO
Did you read? The package was already sent before I was told it was LSV. There was literally nothing I could do until the resolution center came up.

Geez, I kinda wish you didn't go into detail because it makes you look even more like a fuck up than I thought. Own up to your dyslexia.

You ordered LSB thinking the "B" was a "D." OK. Honest mistake. But it's your mistake.

Why punish the vendor for your error? 100% refund? Are you for real?

You were looking to score LSD but chose the wrong listing (LSB). That the vendor didn't send you LSB which you mistook for LSD, but instead sent you LSV is almost immaterial since it was your original dyslexic fuck up that put you in the situation to begin with.

You're both in the wrong. You fucked up picking the wrong listing. He fucked up by sending you other then what you wrongly picked.

If I were SR staff and saw this thread I'd rule 50% refund.

I've been here for almost 2 years and never once scammed and haven't lost money either. Well over 100 transactions. Spent 5 figures. What am I doing right?

Like thagoat said, time for you to get off the road. You're doing it wrong.

Seriously.

I'm being serious. This isn't Amazon or eBay. Vendors are risking their freedom selling things on here that you probably couldn't ever get your hands on IRL. You have to own up to your fuck ups. Stop the transference.

And no, you didn't rain on my so called "pretention."  The way you keep getting scammed says you're bib dribbler who wets himself. Figured as much so I donned a HAZMAT suit and re-breather before entering the thread. ;)

You kids... I swear to the gods below, you're going to be the death of this place with your feelings of self-entitlement.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: boysen on April 16, 2013, 09:32 pm
Seems like dude got his ass handed to him.

Take the 75% and be happy, you could sell the coin and spend the cash on getting checked for dyslexia. :)
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: BenJesuit on April 16, 2013, 10:09 pm
Take the 75% and be happy, you could sell the coin and spend the cash on getting checked for dyslexia. :)

Hahahaha... +Karma.

Just for the record; I hate scammers and I hate when people get scammed. But not owning up to your fuck up is worse. And I'm pretty liberal about where the line is drawn. FE and get scammed... yeah, it's your fault. Pick the wrong listing by accident? Yep, your fault.

Buy product in escrow and receive a box of rocks? OK. That's FUBAR. And you're innocent unless the latest feedback before you purchased says, "Fucker sent me a box of rocks. May devils fuck him in the ASS!!!!!!!!!" If that's the case, then yep you guess it.

Your fault.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: wasta on April 16, 2013, 10:12 pm
He did not receive what he ordered.

If I order Heroin, then no coke, opium or Afghan hash is a substitute.

It is not even better, but if it was better, then there is still not delivered what was ordered

If this continues you can send silver and let them pay for gold.

The seller can not say, oh, there was a mistake, here is something else and good luck with it.

But he does !

He has to deliver exactly, precisely what was ordered or no payment!

""Yeh sorry mister we had a malfunction with greens and the blues in the paintmachine and your paint, so we had  to use the pink paint to paint your house ,
 but it's paint too, and even from a better quality. ""

You buy a car, then you have to have that car, and some kind of model that looks like it or is even better with a bigger enngine...
Bullocks, you pay when you have what you asked for.
""Oh you ordred a BMW and we send you a Honda civic? Well we will refund 50%, beye...""

Not the world I want to live in.

That is not so difficult, now is it?
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: BenJesuit on April 16, 2013, 10:30 pm
Too simple. (and it says you didn't read the OP carefully enough).

Let's go with your paint example. Wife tells you to get indigo, but some how you order blue. But you come home with red.

Who fucked up?

You did and so did the merchant.

So you both must take ownership of fuckupidness. You wife wanted indigo, you ordered blue but got red. Had you bought indigo like your wife said and that can was red inside, then your overly simplified example would have merit.

I like a SR where everybody takes personal responsibility for themselves. Hence, he's entitled to no more than 50% since he too fucked up.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: boysen on April 17, 2013, 02:17 pm
Like BenJesuit says, they both fucked up and 50% should be a fair deal. 75% is a great deal.

If he had ordered LSD, the item was shipped and the vendor then messaged him saying "Sorry but this is LSV", a 100% refund would be fair because then it would have been the vendor's fuckup. In this case, the buyer was looking for LSD, thought he bought LSD where the listing said LSB. That's his fuckup. He's actually lucky the vendor then sent LSV instead, because that's the only reason he should get anything.

If you are looking for heroin, you don't order from a cocaine listing. He was looking for LSD and ordered from an LSB listing. The fact that the vendor ended up sending him LSV is just an extra fuckup, but the buyer here obviously keeps the focus away from the fact that he is the one that fucked up first and that they both fucked up. Resolution staff would probably rule 50% taking everything into account.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: zvp1014 on April 25, 2013, 02:12 am
Like BenJesuit says, they both fucked up and 50% should be a fair deal. 75% is a great deal.

If he had ordered LSD, the item was shipped and the vendor then messaged him saying "Sorry but this is LSV", a 100% refund would be fair because then it would have been the vendor's fuckup. In this case, the buyer was looking for LSD, thought he bought LSD where the listing said LSB. That's his fuckup. He's actually lucky the vendor then sent LSV instead, because that's the only reason he should get anything.

If you are looking for heroin, you don't order from a cocaine listing. He was looking for LSD and ordered from an LSB listing. The fact that the vendor ended up sending him LSV is just an extra fuckup, but the buyer here obviously keeps the focus away from the fact that he is the one that fucked up first and that they both fucked up. Resolution staff would probably rule 50% taking everything into account.

Is not selling LSB under the LSD listing intentionally misleading?

Regardless, I've learned my lesson; I have some beautiful Tessellated tabs I still paid an arm and a leg for right here, worth the premium. Won't be purchasing from sketchy listings anymore.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: BenJesuit on April 25, 2013, 03:52 am

Is not selling LSB under the LSD listing intentionally misleading?

Nope. Selling LSB *as* LSD would be. But his listing said LSB, no?

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Regardless, I've learned my lesson; I have some beautiful Tessellated tabs I still paid an arm and a leg for right here, worth the premium. Won't be purchasing from sketchy listings anymore.

So you're saying you'll read more carefully next time and accept responsibility for your mistakes? That would be a lesson learned.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: wasta on May 23, 2013, 06:17 am
Too simple. (and it says you didn't read the OP carefully enough).

Let's go with your paint example. Wife tells you to get indigo, but some how you order blue. But you come home with red.

Who fucked up?

You did and so did the merchant.

So you both must take ownership of fuckupidness. You wife wanted indigo, you ordered blue but got red. Had you bought indigo like your wife said and that can was red inside, then your overly simplified example would have merit.

I like a SR where everybody takes personal responsibility for themselves. Hence, he's entitled to no more than 50% since he too fucked up.

If my wife tells me to buy paint of the color indigo, and I come home with red paint I take the blame 100% and I will not ask for refund at the store. The fault is mine, completely mine, so I am the only one who has to pay.
If I say to the seller of the paint give me 2 liters of indigo, and at home the paint turns out to be red, I go back to the seller and ask him;""What did I just bought from you?"" And he says 2 liters indigo, I show him the paint and and when he sees he made a mistake I expect to get the indigo.
Not, well it is paint too, even a better quality so I give you nothing. Be glad I don't charge more for the better quality. It seems full of those sellers here on SR.

 I am afraid admins will not rule, not in your favor and not against your favor.

You can call him names and say things like he likes to suck dick like noodles and worse.
 Not my style, but Scout seemed to like it when i Closed a thread because I was sick and tired of all those things that had nothing to do with the case, but Scout reopened the thread again, so Morpheus could continue spilling his filth. It has to be a SR admin thing.
 Other fora should give a ban just for saying ""I hear you like to suck dick like noodles"".
 look it up because the other words make me sick, and I don't want to please Scout so he can read more filth that is irrelevant on the subject
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: flwrchlds9 on May 23, 2013, 08:08 am
Can we ask how much this transaction was for? Offered 75% refund, we hope the 25% left is worth the time spent on this so far? maybe we not understand but seem like a very low $ amount.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: BlackIris on May 23, 2013, 09:56 am
Just for the record; I hate scammers and I hate when people get scammed. But not owning up to your fuck up is worse. And I'm pretty liberal about where the line is drawn. FE and get scammed... yeah, it's your fault. Pick the wrong listing by accident? Yep, your fault.

I don't understand something about this.

If the TC saw the error (it can happen) couldn't s/he just contact the seller asking to cancel the erratic order? Something is amiss here, clearly.
If I would accidentally buy 5-MEO-DMT for DMT (difficult because they are in different sections but it is just an example) I would then immediately contact the vendor about it asking for a cancel because I obviously didn't want 5-MEO but N-N.

Instead the TC continued with the order of LSB also when s/he clearly wanted LSD. Why? I really cannot get it.
If the TC has continued saying: "oh well, now that we are here I will just try LSB" then however s/he cannot complain after that s/he didn't receive LSD, isn't it? (In fact I see this complain about LSV more as sort of masked attempt to blame the vendor because LSD was not sent, as it is clearly implied in the OP).

I understand the fucking up of the vendor on the LSV point, but still I cannot get the underlying approach. There's something fishy here. The TC ordered something s/he didn't want to but did nothing to recover the error, got something different than what s/he mistakenly ordered and now s/he wants a full refund on the point that the vendor somewhat didn't send what the TC wanted to begin with (this is what it is implied in the OP as in the "intentional misleading", read well).

Moreover if I'm send something that I didn't order I will NOT use it. I will  contact the vendor immediately. If you use the product you ACCEPT it. The card of "I wanted to see what it was" it is just a smart attempt. If you try the product to see what it does, you accept that product. If the product is something you don't want you have no reason to try it. When the vendor contacted you telling the product was something else you had two options: A) accept it (as you did) anyway or B) say to the vendor that it was not what you ordered. If you do A then you cannot blame the vendor the product is shit because you ACCEPTED that product and you practically then signed the acceptance by trying the product.

To the TC: you have been given 75% refund that it's more than you deserve. Take responsibility of your actions instead of blaming others about them. IMO you would not deserve neither 50% but the vendor is kind enough to give you 75% and you even complain? For what? Because s/he did not send you LSD to begin with when YOU ordered something else for mistake without either do nothing about it? IMO you are playing the smart guy here.
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: tunacans on May 23, 2013, 09:59 am
Interesting what going to be the verdict
Title: Re: Sent wrong drug- Will admins rule in my favor? Your experience?
Post by: BlackIris on May 23, 2013, 10:11 am
If I say to the seller of the paint give me 2 liters of indigo, and at home the paint turns out to be red, I go back to the seller and ask him;""What did I just bought from you?"" And he says 2 liters indigo, I show him the paint and and when he sees he made a mistake I expect to get the indigo.

But in your example in this case it would be something like: you say to the seller to give 2 liters of indigo, the seller tells you that for a mistake he has put red instead of indigo and you say "oh well, it's good enough either this way" then you come home, paint your house with the red and when your wife comes home and she is crazy as a doped bull because she said you that she wanted violet to begin with, you return to the seller saying that you want a full refund because he has given you red instead of violet. Do you understand the idiocy of the thing?

A) You asked for indigo instead violet to begin with. YOUR error.
B) The seller did an error by giving you red instead of indigo but he told you and you ACCEPTED the mistake saying it was fine.
C) You did go home and USED the paint it was given even if you did know it was not what your wife wanted and neither what you asked for.

Do you think the vendor is in any remote way even minimally responsible if your wife is angry at what you have done?