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Title: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: poshiger on March 17, 2013, 05:27 pm
I'm really getting frustrated with the silk road.

I bought an ounce from FUNKYMAMA that is offensively bad. Reaks like chemicals. But if you checked his or her ratings or review thread you'd have no idea. The same is true for other vendors like NorCalKing who have had a year or more with perfect feedback but (sorry!) are peddling poor quality high-grade weed. It seems like it's 5/5 or nothing and vendors are intimidating users into not leaving negative reviews. Funkymama told me that he or she would message all the other vendors to get me banned. After posting in their official thread, I got a message from another user telling me that the weed from FUNKYMAMA isn't good, but they didn't want to bring it up in their thread. But I could mention that I was messaged by them. Well thanks.

I want to make a plea to all of you that this community is only what we make it. Let's reward the vendors with good product and good business. Let's make them earn the (100) next to their name, and judge them relative to each other.

I didn't mean to turn this into a rant, so back on topic, I'm actually a medicinal user and I've spent way too much on dispensary-reject bud here. Please tell me, who has the actual medical AAAA?
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: DoctorNoname on March 17, 2013, 06:15 pm
The term 'medical grade' is subjective.

I am very meticulous and have complete control over my product, personally I say that in my opinion it has optimum medical potency and minimized potential harm.

Many people would tell you medical grade should be organic, however when dealing with immune-compromised patients many organic fertilisers carry a very minor risk of histoplasmosis. This of course is an obscure example but it demonstrates the differences in opinion.

If you want truly medical grade products then you want concentrates, but that has it's own inherent safety issues.

I guess you're probably not in the UK but if you were I would suggest trying me out, not to pimp myself too much but I can answer any questions you have about the grow/processing which is probably as good as you're going to get.

All this prohibition nonsense...

Jah Bless

The Doctor
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: poshiger on March 17, 2013, 06:23 pm
All this prohibition nonsense...
My sentiments exactly...

Thanks for posting, I think I will check out your page. I usually order domestic (US) for security reasons.
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: DoctorNoname on March 17, 2013, 06:29 pm
Unfortunately I'm not really doing international just yet but I can help you understand a little better what makes good bud, and if you want growing advice I'm good for that too!

People who can tell you alot about their weed without it just being sales patter is generally a good start, people really should have an understanding of what it is exactly.

You should be able to get answers to questions about flush, flowering times etc, but unfortunately most of the time you aren't dealing with the grower, its a drug dealer.

Hopefully SR will allow more 'independents' such as myself to spring up, it's a lot of work for one man but I love the direct interface with customers. It means I'm not selling in bulk to people who resell everything as ''cheese''  :'(

Just ask if I can be of any help at all

Jah Bless

The Doctor
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: poshiger on March 17, 2013, 06:42 pm
We absolutely need more independent growers like yourself. I'm looking at your page and it looks good.

Are there any US or international growers you can personally endorse?

I really see the need for a list of independent growers. Have you heard of such a list circulating? I want to support growers who's concern is quality, not dealers who's main concern is profit.

Right on, can't wait for you to go international
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: synikal12 on March 17, 2013, 07:21 pm
EastCoastCollective
BayAreaBudz
XXXotica
NorthWestDirect
Farmer1
Christy Nugs

There's 6 of my top 15 weed vendors. ANY weed you grab from them is going to be AAA+ quality. I've never had a bad batch from any of those vendors and I have well over 30k spent here on the road.

Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: poshiger on March 17, 2013, 07:41 pm
EastCoastCollective
BayAreaBudz
XXXotica
NorthWestDirect
Farmer1
Christy Nugs

There's 6 of my top 15 weed vendors. ANY weed you grab from them is going to be AAA+ quality. I've never had a bad batch from any of those vendors and I have well over 30k spent here on the road.

I have tried BAB and Farmer1 and I agree on both, so I'll definitely try these,thanks
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: DoctorNoname on March 17, 2013, 07:44 pm
We absolutely need more independent growers like yourself. I'm looking at your page and it looks good.

Are there any US or international growers you can personally endorse?

I really see the need for a list of independent growers. Have you heard of such a list circulating? I want to support growers who's concern is quality, not dealers who's main concern is profit.

Right on, can't wait for you to go international

Thanks for the kind words, unfortunately I have never actually ordered off SR myself, although I had no experience at the time I understand the 'Farmer's Market' website was essentially that for a while.

I suspect synikal12 has probably pointed you in the right direction, but personally I would recommend learning to grow if you are a true connoisseur.

This has and always will be the problem with making medicine a drug, you put it in the hands of drug dealers and not caregivers. Still though I am the only one who can vouch for what I am saying with regards to my growing, I could be totally lying and doing all manner of irresponsible things, the only thing that would prove it would be for me to meet you and show you how I grow step by step.

I throw the term medical grade about a lot but I feel that I can justify it PERSONALLY if not technically, I wouldn't be feeding it to my sick mother if I didn't feel it was of impeccable quality, I suppose most drug dealers can't really claim that.

You could always move to one of your fine medical states, they'll get you a card and then you don't have to worry about SR and babylon's enforcers, there are some wonderful people doing great things in Oregon and Colorado from what I understand.

Personally I feel that SR puts me in a position to make fair money and make a political/philosophical repudiation of the cartoonish drug laws we live under whilst providing a medically efficacious product to people who need it. I can't be the only one who wants to do it, I only recently heard about SR otherwise I probably would have been on here for years.

Hopefully one day I will be able to expand, grow more weed and have people to help me do it but that has inherent problems. It's a lot of work doing all the growing, trimming, concentrate making, sales, shipping, talking to the lovely people on the forums... And I am a stoner at heart which makes things worse.

sorry, I've just started rambling all over your thread

Jah Bless

The Doctor
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: xpsbud on March 17, 2013, 08:02 pm
Following this thread. I live in a non-drug state and would like to try what others classify as medical grade.
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: synikal12 on March 17, 2013, 08:07 pm
EastCoastCollective
BayAreaBudz
XXXotica
NorthWestDirect
Farmer1
Christy Nugs

There's 6 of my top 15 weed vendors. ANY weed you grab from them is going to be AAA+ quality. I've never had a bad batch from any of those vendors and I have well over 30k spent here on the road.

I have tried BAB and Farmer1 and I agree on both, so I'll definitely try these,thanks
I've gotten some top tier ganj from XXX christy NWD and ECC.. and I've lived in southern cali for a few years so when I say top tier I mean top tier for my standards, which are high  :P

If you're looking for small amounts, go with XXXotica or ECC. XXX even offers international shipping for you folk outside of the US.

Bigger amounts you can't go wrong with any of these vendors.

Christy sells mainly ounces and qp's, XXX sells everything up until ounces (occasional QP's), ECC sells everything up until ounces (again occasional QP's listed), and NWD sells half ounces, ounces, and QP's (custom listings can be done for bulk).
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: poshiger on March 17, 2013, 08:44 pm
Thanks for the list synikal. I'm placing orders with ECC, XXXotica, and NWD within the next few days. Will wait on Christy. Do you have any other go-to lists for vendors that deal in hash / oils / edibles? I know they can similarly be made with questionable product.
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: suavee on March 17, 2013, 08:58 pm
Lucy Mcgee, Mrhumboldt and HumboldtsFinest also won't disappoint,
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: synikal12 on March 17, 2013, 09:14 pm
Thanks for the list synikal. I'm placing orders with ECC, XXXotica, and NWD within the next few days. Will wait on Christy. Do you have any other go-to lists for vendors that deal in hash / oils / edibles? I know they can similarly be made with questionable product.

For hash I personally only go with LexiSadie. For bulk hash definitely go with my guy sourdieselman. He sells 100g's for $850 and pounds of bubblehash for 3.2k and it's good shit. I've had associates buy his hash, it is truly great for the price!

For concentrates my go to guy is Just4u2nv. He offers a wide variety of different strains for anyones liking, not to mention his claim for only using buds is pretty spot on. His honeycomb wax puts you on that next level that we all are looking for when purchasing concentrates. The only downside is they only ship Mondays and Fridays.

For edibles my ONLY go to guy is NoStress! He sells bomb fk'n edibles (CA dispensary hash brownies). These things pack a HUGE punch! I am a seasoned exotic smoker and ONE put me on my ass. At 4 for $50 or 8 for $90 you can't go wrong!
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: dr gonzo on March 17, 2013, 09:27 pm
lucy Mcgee and Christy nugs both have supplied me with"medical grade" bud IMHO, every time I've had the pleasure of enjoying their wares.
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: synikal12 on March 17, 2013, 09:39 pm
I can abide with both gonzo and suave lucy is infact on my top 15 :P

She has phenomenal tree! Supposedly re-opening today too :D
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: robotrippin on March 17, 2013, 10:53 pm
Ya, there's no doubt some of the SR vendors pushing top shelf are full of shit. But there are still good ones.  When it comes to true medicinal there's a few that you can count on. LexiSadie, XXXotica, Christy Nugs, and ogbryan are a few of my favorite. I've ordered from all of them and it's always excellent.  OGbryan has some phenomenal Banana OG Kush, you have to try it if you're looking for top shelf. Anything I've ever gotten from the other three has been excellent. I also just got some dank shit from Angel Eyes.  I've got an order on the way from Lionware Trading Co. and they have some really nice feedback and reviews. I'm pretty excited about this one.  I will let you know.  When you compare prices most of these are a bit higher than the average on SR. Don't let that bother you. You get what you pay for and these deliver top shelf every time. I'm sure there are still more out there but these are the ones I keep going back to.
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: MC Haberdasher on March 17, 2013, 11:07 pm
Novartis

LTC

Salsify

Farmer1

MidwestMedical



In no particular order.

Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: NW Nugz on March 17, 2013, 11:19 pm
... It seems like it's 5/5 or nothing and vendors are intimidating users into not leaving negative reviews....
...
I want to make a plea to all of you that this community is only what we make it. Let's reward the vendors with good product and good business. Let's make them earn the (100) next to their name, and judge them relative to each other.

... Please tell me, who has the actual medical AAAA?

I'd guess there is intimidation going on at times. I have not seen/done it myself. I agree with your point that the good ratings should be earned. It is difficult for buyers to rate things in a consistent manner when they come from differing points of view with very different past experiences. My reviews and feedback on SR have so far seemed somewhat like "cheerleading" to me. My perception, though, is colored by my spoiled situation (experiencing abundance for a long time). The "EMP" I am selling at the moment seems like AAA quality to me (as compared to the AAAA you are asking for). My reviews make it sound like AAAAA quality. I think if you tried it you might think it was just what you were looking for? I know my stuff and still can't be sure exactly how to rate it. I guess I am trying to say it would be hard to have everyone give fair/consistent reviews even if they all tried their best.

There is also a status-quo/existing inertia kinda thing going on with (100) being so important to vendors and buyers realizing this. If most great vendors had numbers like (97), then there would be room to give a 4 of 5 now and then. This is especially true because the x of 5 system is rather drastic. If we made feedback x of 10 or x of 100 people could complain a little without such a harsh negativity of 4 out of 5.

I think buyers also use feedback to encourage sellers to treat them even better in future deals. The relationship building aspect goes both ways and I can't blame them for trying as I think that approach is at least somewhat effective.

So, it is a bit harder to tell which vendors are the best. I do think you can find the good vendors by reading reviews and such in the forums. Realize the spin exists and I think you can see past it. The suggested vendors I have seen above in this thread are no surprise to me as I read a lot and have heard a lot of good stuff about most of them. This OP was a good idea for getting quick results without having to search for/thru similar threads.
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on March 17, 2013, 11:50 pm
All this jabber about 'medicinal' grade marijuana, really kind of urks me. IMO any strain or class of bud, can be called 'medical grade'.

It is all dependent on what sort of medical illness it is that the user is suffering from. Ive grown and dealt marijuana for the greater half of my adult life, and pot is almost as subjective as LSD in a sense. Ive had dozens of instances where  one hand full of customers would rant and rave of the quality of something, that to me as a grower, really is anything but top shelf. Where as another handfull of people had nothing but terrible things to say about the same strains.

 If you go into a medical dispensary in CA or CO or where ever, You will find literally hundreds of 'medicinal' strains. Now marijuana is never something that i needed to or wanted to buy of SR, so i cant so much make a statement on what kind of quality vendors are pushing and with what kind of up sell. the way i see it, if your looking for something particular, you would just have to know just what characteristics it is that you prefer.

 Now if you have your criteria and choice made on exactly what is is your looking for, and you think youve found that, according to what a vendor advertises, and they have falsely advertised their product, pulling the old bait and switch, or simply not being truthful about there gear, well then thats and entirely different issue.

 If it where me with this issue, i would call it more than safe to say that if your buying from a western US based vendor, then you are probably not going to find any better quality than that. All of the absolute best strains ive ever seen, smoked, grew or sold..all reign out of the west coast USA. Any grower that is buying their seeds from a seed bank, is going to have very commercial run of the mill work. Where as more than half of the real deal farmers in the west, indoor, green house, outs, w.e..are obtaining there strains and genetics from professional and expert breeders and geneticists.

 Purple kush for example, To many people its regarded as a highly potent medical strain, to me, its merely a bag appeal strain. The taste is almost always harsh and earthy, whether properly flushed or not, organic or not.     I cant rant for days on this subject, the fact remains, best herb available, comes from the western US.
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: zeus2425 on March 18, 2013, 12:37 am
Check out ogbryan, you won't be disappointed.
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 20, 2013, 05:57 am
All this jabber about 'medicinal' grade marijuana, really kind of urks me. IMO any strain or class of bud, can be called 'medical grade'.

It is all dependent on what sort of medical illness it is that the user is suffering from.

I have to agree with dirtybiscuitzz718 here.  Most people, when they talk about "medical grade" are thinking of pain relief.   But there are many other medicinal uses for mj as we know.  Augmenting appetite, seizure control, gastrointestinal distress, bipolar disorder, glaucoma, anxiety, depression, insomnia, and many others.  And when we talk about pain relief there are so many different types of pain that have differing triggers and mechanisms, from headache pain to general aches, stomach pain to severe body pain caused by cancer or other chronic conditions, its hard, as a purveyor and/or smoker, to know exactly what works.

This is especially true because for certain conditions like seizures or bipolar disorder, mj can help or it can hurt.  For example, I've known people with epilepsy that swear by mj, and others that can't touch the stuff as it actually causes seizures.

I've also known people who react the exact opposite to the "normal" experience of particular strains or classes.  For example, some people relax on sativas and get "up" on indicas, which is the opposite of "most" people's experience. 

Add to this that strains vary greatly -- a bag of 10 seeds of the same strain when grown out can give you ten differing highs, not to mention that different breeders have their own versions of strains, or that a lot of what people get isn't really what they think they're getting, and that the care taken in the growing process greatly effects the resulting high, and you soon realize its total chaos out there.

The best answer is trial and error, and thankfully, with places like SR and medical dispensaries we can have a bit more control of what we are experimenting with, and hopefully be able to find something that clicks and actually be able to obtain it again.

One thing we do at Angel Eyes is, if we think a strain is a strong candidate for narcotic pain relief, we will say so.  And when we identify such a strain there are things we do to enhance the effect, like using UV light during the drying stage, and extended curing, both of which help to break down the more complex CBD's into the simpler, more narcotic molecules.  Anyone who has had Moroccan hash has experienced this effect.  That stuff is cut and left out in the sun for months before it is dropped onto screens and turned into hash.  Leaving it out in the sun is supposed to be a big no-no as the sun breaks down the CBDs, but this is exactly what gives Moroccan hash its amazing "drunken", narcotic high that builds and builds as you smoke it.  Bubble hash it is not :).

All that being said, barring some of the really strong sativas that can actually heighten pain (or at least the awareness of pain, which is the same thing I think) for some people, most any hybrid or indica will offer some form of pain relief, especially when combined with a narcotic pain killer (opiate).  And most any strain can augment appetite or relieve nausea.  Its really a matter of degree in many cases, and that can be largely subjective.  But there are trends.
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: dirtybiscuitzz718 on April 20, 2013, 02:24 pm
+1, well put Angel Eyes
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: sftman on April 20, 2013, 03:33 pm
Uniwiz is putting together a list of the best medical herb vendors on anther thread.  He plans to have an ongoing poll to pick the top vendors.  Here's the link. 

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=144211.0

You can't put together a list of the top medical cannabis vendors without including JackBlue.  Best on SR without a doubt.  Flawless Girl Scout Cookies and Blue Dream.  The other thread has a link to his vendor page.  He sells in stealth mode so you need the link to see his listings.
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: EzzeeK on April 22, 2013, 03:14 am
I second that statement.  JackBlue's cannabis is perfect every time.  He actually grows it himself with aeroponics and keeps the number of plants small so he can quality control everything.  He could make a ton of money on here, but instead he chooses not to expand.  That is a sign of someone who loves cannabis and he passes it on to you. :)   
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: Kensho on April 22, 2013, 07:41 am
If you're looking for bulk top shelf nugget, doesn't get better hit up my signature.
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: mnminc2010 on April 22, 2013, 08:48 am
supercanna hooked me up on a HP with extra 1/2 oz it was bomb weed very inpresed.

and lucymagee AWESOME nothing else needs to be said her berry royal best weed Ive ever had she always has bomb weed but also describes what she has very accurately

and NorthWestDirect has Awesome stuff also

my 3 favorite so far.
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: czxtvr on April 22, 2013, 08:39 pm
Much needed thread guys...great job
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: 41910192618123 on April 23, 2013, 02:31 am
I love this thread thanks for all the super intelligent posts from the uk vendor and thanks to all the usa domestic reviews...  Great post and great idea of starting it keep up the positive community and helping others.... + karma to everyone...
Title: Re: Ok, who actually has the medical grade herbs?
Post by: mnminc2010 on April 23, 2013, 07:16 am
If you're looking for bulk top shelf nugget, doesn't get better hit up my signature.

i was actually looking at you but i am just sketched out by new vendors of big amounts i wish you did oz to try you out first im seeing real good reviews.