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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: tordemon on March 06, 2012, 08:34 pm
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So I was using DanceSafe.org's ecstasy identification kit to presumptively identify some 2C-B I got quite a while back.
Marquis: Turned yellow immediately, and then slowly faded to green for around 20 seconds, and then faded to blue, becoming clear again at about a minute. I took this to be a positive for 2C-B as per the instructions in the kit.
Mecke: Turned yellow immediately and stayed that way. I was expecting no reaction, and so this somewhat confused me.
Simon: Remained clear except for a small amount of white milk that formed in the center and then escaped as smoke. I did not expect this at all, nor could I find anything about smoke in regards to the Simon reagent.
What do ya'll think? I looked around a fair amount and couldn't really find anything else to match up with this. I think there's at least some 2C-B in it, as it came from a trusted source, but why are these unexpected reactions occurring as well?
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the following is from my personal notes:
marquis: yellow fading to light green, then very slowly to turquoise
mecke: amber
mandelin: washed out yellow fading to clear
robadope: red
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the following is from my personal notes:
marquis: yellow fading to light green, then very slowly to turquoise
mecke: amber
mandelin: washed out yellow fading to clear
robadope: red
The information is greatly appreciated. I should keep better notes like that. =]
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The marquis results sound a little odd. My 4 different samples of 2C-B all turn dark olive green then fade out to yellow.
How fresh is your marquis?
Simon's reagent is to test for 2° amines, so you'd expect no result from 2C-B. The smokiness was probably a bit of excess HBr reacting with the sodium carbonate in the Simon's reagent.
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The marquis results sound a little odd. My 4 different samples of 2C-B all turn dark olive green then fade out to yellow.
How fresh is your marquis?
Simon's reagent is to test for 2° amines, so you'd expect no result from 2C-B. The smokiness was probably a bit of excess HBr reacting with the sodium carbonate in the Simon's reagent.
The marquis is very fresh, presuming that the supplier kept it fresh (ie, I had it less than a month).
But the smokey result for secondary amines would be nothing to be concerned about, then?
I did a small taste test (ie <5mg) and found it to be active (sex was amazing), but I'm not sure if there's any other way to figure out what else might be in there...
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The marquis is very fresh, presuming that the supplier kept it fresh (ie, I had it less than a month).
But the smokey result for secondary amines would be nothing to be concerned about, then?
I did a small taste test (ie <5mg) and found it to be active (sex was amazing), but I'm not sure if there's any other way to figure out what else might be in there...
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Sounds fine, never heard of contaminated/cut 2C-B. You're lucky to get effects from a sub 5mg dose! 14mg is my bedroom dose...
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Sounds fine, never heard of contaminated/cut 2C-B. You're lucky to get effects from a sub 5mg dose! 14mg is my bedroom dose...
Yea, I wouldn't really expect it to be cut, either, but I thought being sold another 2C as 2C-B was a relatively likely possibility as it would be easy to do and would offer a high profit margin. I suppose I'll see how well the other effects match up with what they're supposed to be. And <5mg was just barely above threshold, but I'll most certainly be upping the dosage this weekend. =]
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May I ask what is a typical consistency for 2C-B? Have any of you found it to vary much or is it consistent in appearance and structure?
I have received a small batch from a US vendor and it is crystalline in appearance and appears to be a small amount for the weight.
Is this typical?
Thanks!
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The HBr is a light, floury, slightly clumpy powder. The HCl, when recrystallised properly, is very fine white needles.
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I've only ever seen the HBr available, never came across the HCl for sale before SR. Would there be any reason to seek one of them over the other? I'm not much of a chemist; is the HBr easier to synthesize or something? Or is it just an arbitrary acid choice?
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We shall call it Hcl then!
Thanks wowzers.
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I've only ever seen the HBr available, never came across the HCl for sale before SR. Would there be any reason to seek one of them over the other? I'm not much of a chemist; is the HBr easier to synthesize or something? Or is it just an arbitrary acid choice?
the two things I know: it burns less if you snort it, you have to take a slightly higher dose.