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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: ChaxChax on February 10, 2012, 11:16 pm
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Hi,
Looking for some veteran feedback. The first time I did LSD, it was 4 diamond blotter, I am not sure how many of you are old enough to remember it, but it was the strongest sheet going around for about 6 months. I was told to take half a hit because of it's strength, but I did the whole tab and felt.... nothing. I have heard of many others who do not get off on acid on their first try. The second week I did a tab from the same sheet and peaked so hard I was worried I wasn't coming back. (Both of those tabs were from the center of the sheet, it wasn't a matter of one being good, and the other bad, I just didn't peak off my first try).
So now, my first time ever and 3 hours after taking 125 mg of what purports to be pure MDMA from a vendor here with an impeccable rep and countless positive trip reports. I feel nothing. My pupils aren't contracted or dilated. I'm watching boring TV, and am actually considering taking a nap. What gives? Is there a first time MDMA immunity as well?
CC
Edited to add; I weigh 155 lbs. I'm on the skinny side
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I've never seen that but I suppose it's possible, given the right conditions. How long before did you eat? Alcohol? Any other drugs (esp weed)? Environment?
I've had a friend or two make the same claim, but they were smiling ear to ear all night. I think that is just a state of mind thing though.
Possible you got a bad batch too I guess. It happens.
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Near empty stomach, a bagel with cream cheese about an hour before taking the dose. No alcohol, just some diet soda. No other drugs. I'm not going to double up next time, I've been told 125mg is more than enough to roll. I'll try again next week I guess.
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Im keen to hear anything on this phenomena..
Because "shit mdma" does not cut it for me.
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I had the very same thing happen to me the first time I popped a pill. Just nothing. I mean really nothing, as in, I thought it must have been a fake pill. Now of course I had no clue at the time what it's suppose to look like or taste like or anything, but when the two (otherwise homophobic) guys that were with me started cuddling like little babies I figured it's gotta do something for them.
So, yes, physically it is possible. Same thing with the tolerance. Do it for a week and you can take as much as you want without getting any reaction at all. Just saying this to attest to the "physical possibility" of intake without results.
The workings of serotonin and dopamine are still not well understood. Also, the cream cheese might be an issue. Foods with a base-like pH can wreak havoc on absorption of MDMA, and with this drug it's all about the initial dose (in my perception anyways).
On the other hand, bagel dough is densely packed and so is cream cheese. If you took a pill one hour after that bagel and had some bad luck it might be sitting there half-dissolved embedded in a big ball of cream-cheese bagel dough :)
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Do you take anything like Paxil or Wellbutrin etc..?
These things will make it possible for you NOT to roll and possibly can be a dangerous combination.
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Nope, No SSRI's or any anti-depressants of any kind. The MDMA came as a crystal powder, so it's not in a half digested pill form stuck in a bagel (although the imagery of that made me LOL in real life). I capped it in an empty double-ought gel cap myself. I'm not concerned really. I bought a full gram, so I'll try again next week and hope for better results.
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Very interesting visual on the bagel!
Keep us posted. I'm interested to find out how it goes on round 2.
I did have a friend who claimed he felt nothing his second time around. He swore he didn't take any of the Xanax he had, but I'm positive he did.
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Hi,
Looking for some veteran feedback. The first time I did LSD, it was 4 diamond blotter, I am not sure how many of you are old enough to remember it, but it was the strongest sheet going around for about 6 months. I was told to take half a hit because of it's strength, but I did the whole tab and felt.... nothing. I have heard of many others who do not get off on acid on their first try. The second week I did a tab from the same sheet and peaked so hard I was worried I wasn't coming back. (Both of those tabs were from the center of the sheet, it wasn't a matter of one being good, and the other bad, I just didn't peak off my first try).
So now, my first time ever and 3 hours after taking 125 mg of what purports to be pure MDMA from a vendor here with an impeccable rep and countless positive trip reports. I feel nothing. My pupils aren't contracted or dilated. I'm watching boring TV, and am actually considering taking a nap. What gives? Is there a first time MDMA immunity as well?
CC
Edited to add; I weigh 155 lbs. I'm on the skinny side
As long as you aren't taking any medications or eating strange foods, you aren't immune to MDMA. You might be tolerant, but you aren't immune. My suggestion would be take 150 mg and see if you feel anything after 1 hour. If not, insuffulate an extra 50 mg and see if it has any effect. If not, your MDMA is bad.
Unfortunately, MDMA can degrade if the conditions aren't appropriate. The first time I synthesized MDMA I made the mistake of drying the crystals with too much heat, and unfortunately it partially degraded. Instead of 100 mg having an effect, it was necessary to weigh out twice as much. The crystals still looked and smelled like pure MDMA but there must have been some decomposition because it wasn't demonstrating the correct potency, and I know that original product was pure.
The fact is, even if the vendor is good, you don't know exactly how your MDMA was handled after it was mailed. Weird things can happen.
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You don't happen to be on an SSRI? An SSRI by design will completely negate the euphoric effect of MDMA, leaving at the very least only the residual feelings of the methamphetimine component. I've also heard that SSRI can severely delude the effect of psychedelics in some (but not all) people. Just a shot in the dark. If you're on an SSRI, that may be the culprit.
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The very first time I took a pill it didn't do shit for me. The two other guys I was with were rolling nicely, I got nothing. I was nervous... I'm pretty sure I willed it away.
The second time I tried it (1996) was an amazing experience from a strong dutch pill... Never topped that.
By the way, a bagel with cream cheese an hour before is far from an empty stomach. Gluten/starch/dairy could have prevented your peak...
MDMA is not prone to degrading too easily...
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Ok so too much heat will degrade it.. but surely not general postage and handling??
How hot are you talking about firewall65?
Like the good doc mentioned, his first pill did shit but rolled his mates. I wonder how often this happens?
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Thats the thing guys, You dont get nervous about MDMA, You let it take you where it wants you to go, you wont be sorry. It will be a blast everytime if its legit stuff. Think of it this way..
If you let it set you free, it WILL INDEED set you free.
I made a thread on HOW TO USE MDMA..In my opinion that is.
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My first pill did nothing, yet my friend had the same and was clearly munting quite nicely off it.
Another friends first time roll was strange. He said it wasn't doing anything, but he was sitting down, clenching his jaw and chewing his mouth off, and sweating quite a lot.
This isn't the first time this has been reported, perhaps there is an initial "break-in" that has to happen before you can feel the full effects.
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My first pill was absolute bliss... and I had consumed quite a bit of alcohol beforehand and ate 2 pieces of dodgy greasy pizza found a the local niteclub strip.
Eating and drinking has never ever tainted my roll and I always drink alcohol beforehand and during.
So it seems to me your mdma experience is greatly influenced by chemical makeup, metabolism?? or even mindset? not taking into account tolerances, other substance use.
I was nervous and anxious as well but I let go once she hit.
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The very first time I took a pill it didn't do shit for me. The two other guys I was with were rolling nicely, I got nothing. I was nervous... I'm pretty sure I willed it away.
The second time I tried it (1996) was an amazing experience from a strong dutch pill... Never topped that.
By the way, a bagel with cream cheese an hour before is far from an empty stomach. Gluten/starch/dairy could have prevented your peak...
MDMA is not prone to degrading too easily...
Ok so too much heat will degrade it.. but surely not general postage and handling??
How hot are you talking about firewall65?
Like the good doc mentioned, his first pill did shit but rolled his mates. I wonder how often this happens?
Yeah, MDMA does not degrade easily. I had just finished doing an acetone wash and I figured it wouldn't hurt to warm the crystals up inside a toaster oven as long as it was only for a minute or two. Big mistake. I walked away for a minute and they got too warm and lost potency. They still had the exact same effect, but I had to use twice as much. So with that being said, I highly doubt that general postage and handling would cause it to degrade. I'm not really sure why I mentioned that in my first post. I guess my only point is that it is possible for this stuff to decompose under some conditions.
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i think its all about the psyche. i did not roll my first time either and i know the pills were good. sure things can happen to the quality of the roll and we can analyze until the cows come home. but until he goes for round 2 and tries again we cant gauge it properly
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i agree with you about the mind having a huge affect. a lot of people around here buy capsuled "molly" in the club or at a rave, when it is infact dxm or methylone or something. the problem is they don't know its not real because they still get fucked up from it. with pills, especially in the US, most of them are fake. i recommend useing pillreports or ecstasydata. both sites have pictures of pills along with what is in them. if you bought your mdma from poseidon, i can promise you it was most likely fake. i have a mecke tester and test everything that is "molly" before i take it. out of the three vendors i've bought from, poseidon is the only one that did not test as a mdxx substance.