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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: ThoseWhoChose on May 31, 2013, 04:56 am

Title: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ThoseWhoChose on May 31, 2013, 04:56 am
Alright, you just got some BTC and just made an account on SR but you run into the fact you have 0 buys and 0 reputation and chances are everyone will ask to finalize the money early so they don't get scammed, but infact sometimes they could possible scam you.

First of all your already taking a risk getting a package through the mail so you shouldn't be on this website if your way too worried about risk. We all take risk in life no matter what we do. Sticking to the best sellers with the best reputation to get your first few buys so you can have rep is a good start.

Also read around and see what other people have to say with the search option on the forum, and looking through pages of feedback helps a lot. Perfect example of a scammer is greendaddy888 selling fake ass pills. Originally he listed them as they were real, and as soon as people caught on he made sure he got enough orders then he created other listings that say fake pills. Fucking stupid if you ask me people still buy from him and he has a 60 rating.

 Stick to the reputation system as you can obviously tell who is legit and who is not. But there's always a chance someone who builds up a reputation will turn on everyone and start ripping off people, something really hard to avoid but the chances are pretty low. Like I said, risks you have to take, nothing is 100% certain in life. in the past 4 months I've spent over 2000 USD on about 28 transactions and each transaction was successful.

If you do things right chances are you won't have to fuck with the refund system, leaving a percentage for your refunds which some sellers don't really like dealing with people who possibly scam. So it's up to you and you have every tool available to make sure the percentage of losing money is much lower then if you just randomly purchase an item without looking at any of the information in front of you. Anyone got anything to add? Please feel free to.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: dietcoke64 on May 31, 2013, 05:51 am
thanks for that so much
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: boostintoHYPERSPACE1 on May 31, 2013, 06:19 am
want to know how to never get screwed.

never FE plain and simple!
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ThoseWhoChose on May 31, 2013, 06:18 pm
Very true but at times I really had no choice because I really wanted something good, and FE worked for me but I don't exactly recommend it
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: TR0N on May 31, 2013, 07:17 pm
When I got my first round of BTC in my account, I bought 6 eBooks/audio books. I spent like 5 bucks and got 6 completed transactions out of it. After doing this, vendors can see that I have completed purchases which went smoothly, and were much happier to deal with me.

Good way to build up your buyer stats so vendors will take you seriously.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ThoseWhoChose on June 03, 2013, 08:02 pm
That is very true, E-books is a way to go. But I can see a scammer just investing little coin to build up rep on samples and then scamming vendors. There's always a chance for that type of thing.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: sevensix76 on June 03, 2013, 08:19 pm
ebooks might increase your transactions but vendors can still see your total spend,  if I was a vendor that would make me really suspicious.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ThoseWhoChose on June 11, 2013, 10:04 am
Also, i'd like to add something. NEVER EVER GIVE OUT your address to someone claiming to be a vendor on the forum if they do not have a account on SR. Someone named Charlie Sheen tried to extort 1 BTC off me by saying he was going to expose a address I gave him. Luckly it was a fake one I wanted to see if he was actually scamming or not. Turns out he was a failed scammer and for what he did not only did he get his personal information exposed he truly got fucked over. Remember go with people with rep!
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ☼LightOfPi☼ on June 11, 2013, 10:39 am
want to know how to never get screwed.

never FE plain and simple!
²
Find a vendor who doesn't require FE, and don't release the funds before you get the package. Simple as that!
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ThoseWhoChose on June 15, 2013, 02:07 am
want to know how to never get screwed.

never FE plain and simple!
²
Find a vendor who doesn't require FE, and don't release the funds before you get the package. Simple as that!

That always works, but in all honestly it's not easy finding one.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: Ringo Deathstarr on June 15, 2013, 02:46 am
Also, i'd like to add something. NEVER EVER GIVE OUT your address to someone claiming to be a vendor on the forum if they do not have a account on SR. Someone named Charlie Sheen tried to extort 1 BTC off me by saying he was going to expose a address I gave him. Luckly it was a fake one I wanted to see if he was actually scamming or not. Turns out he was a failed scammer and for what he did not only did he get his personal information exposed he truly got fucked over. Remember go with people with rep!

Yeah I saw that.  They really gave that Charlie Sheen dude a good reaming.  Good to know those people are on our side.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: HappyTrees on June 15, 2013, 02:50 am
Review the vendors forum threads if they have one :)
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: MollyBaba on June 15, 2013, 03:35 am
good shit bro
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: Chupa Chups on June 15, 2013, 08:51 am
Thanks man for the post. Good start for newbies.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: DrWalterB on June 15, 2013, 09:32 am
Cheers for the n00b info. I have placed my first orders, chose to FE this first time round cause of good vendor reputation .... Hope I dont get dissapointed ;)
A bit of blind faith ...

grtz
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: switchmaster805 on June 15, 2013, 10:08 am
Thanks for that guys. It can be a bit daunting for us new to sr,what with btc,pgp. It's all a learning curve.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: DrWalterB on June 15, 2013, 02:44 pm
Thanks for that guys. It can be a bit daunting for us new to sr,what with btc,pgp. It's all a learning curve.

that it is, but luckily there seems to be gr8 guides and ppl here to help us on our way 8)
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ThoseWhoChose on June 16, 2013, 11:49 pm
So I didn't follow my rules like a normally did, but I purchased from rahlduke 10 hits of lsd. but I did not FE and wondering if he's legit or not anyone ever deal with this guy? http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/721dbd71bd

I'll vouch for him once I recieve product but people are trying to say hes a scammer but I see no proof. Let me know what you guys think!
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: xxxcross on June 17, 2013, 12:39 am
hello
this is a good start for newbies and some really good advise here.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ghiradelli on June 18, 2013, 05:37 pm
So I didn't follow my rules like a normally did, but I purchased from rahlduke 10 hits of lsd. but I did not FE and wondering if he's legit or not anyone ever deal with this guy? http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/721dbd71bd

I'll vouch for him once I recieve product but people are trying to say hes a scammer but I see no proof. Let me know what you guys think!

If he didn't require FE chances are he's not a scammer. You can keep your money in escrow and potentially get it back if the product doesn't arrive or is bunk. For any future LSD order, I'd pay attention to the Avengers forum - which keeps people up to date of what is good, bad, or indifferent. And sometimes it's worth paying a little extra for the security. And for getting some acid that will blow your mind :)
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ritzlover on June 18, 2013, 05:50 pm
There's a simple formula for a successful transaction.

No FE + Reputable vendor with a rating of 99 to 100% + Consumer reviews that show the product was good and shipped in a safe, timely manner = Successful Transaction.

That's all you need. Study the vendor's pages and review threads diligently. Compare them with others that sell the drug you want. That's it.

And encrypt your address, using your real name.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: carlosdonutlover on June 18, 2013, 05:52 pm
Some hacker drug type guy on omegle told me. Thank you omegle, for the hours spent discussing drugs and random shit with assholes, you rewarded me with the ability to (somewhat) securely order drugs off the internet and be part of this wonderful free community.

But also fuck you, for wasting my time with trolls and pedophiles.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ritzlover on June 18, 2013, 05:56 pm
And Finalize AS SOON AS you receive your package.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ritzlover on June 18, 2013, 05:57 pm
Carlos, I believe you just posted in the wrong thread.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: darpa96 on June 18, 2013, 06:28 pm
How is it that a vendor can go from a 100 to a 91 rating (with 62 transactions so far) , yet all the reviews show 5 out of 5? Can they delete reviews they don't like from their page?
Does anyone know how this is possible???
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: frank-butcher24 on June 18, 2013, 06:41 pm
How is it that a vendor can go from a 100 to a 91 rating (with 62 transactions so far) , yet all the reviews show 5 out of 5? Can they delete reviews they don't like from their page?
Does anyone know how this is possible???

It isn't possible, unless something has gone wrong.

If a vendor has always had 5/5 on every transaction, he will have a 100 rating.

What vendor are you talking about?
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: farmer1 on June 18, 2013, 06:58 pm
I sell to newbies.
I have never required FE.

:)
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: carlosdonutlover on June 18, 2013, 07:03 pm
Carlos, I believe you just posted in the wrong thread.

I swear to god I was just in a different thread... thanks for pointing it out
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ThoseWhoChose on June 18, 2013, 11:50 pm
Has anyone been scammed? Please post as an example of what not to do.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ghiradelli on June 19, 2013, 01:24 am
And Finalize AS SOON AS you receive your package.

My only qualms about this is if you have any doubts about the veracity of the goods, I'd personally hold off on finalizing a couple days until I could test it (especially if it's a large order). See this as an example of the absolute shit that get started in these situations (for buyers and vendors) if you want to read like 6 pages of discussion: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=161293.0 
That being said, certainly finalize in a timely manner. Waiting for auto-finalization will get you sent to at least the 3rd circle of hell.

ThoseWhoChose, I guess that post is kind of relevant to you too. I also got scammed with one of my first purchases, naively FE-ed before I'd discovered the forums. The vendor was offering a whole bunch of cheap stimulants and had like a 99 or 100% rating because people were just giving 5/5 as they finalized early. But all I looked at was the high rating number, and the cheap price. So after that unfortunate adventure I learned to read through all the reviews on the vendor page and the forums, and even if they are great I generally don't FE.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: Whistleblowers on June 19, 2013, 09:22 am
be very careful on here.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ritzlover on June 20, 2013, 01:54 am
Thanks for the clarification Ghiradelli. Definitely make sure the product is as advertised before finalizing.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: 88fxstc on June 20, 2013, 03:03 am
I've found that a little research will find you some fine vendors that do not require FE, ya just gotta put in the time.  Granted, there's only sa few different products I buy, but I don't know why things would b different with other products. There's all kinda shit on here that I have no clue even what they are. Especially those drugs that just have letters and numbers for names. I guess I'm oldschool, I started inj the 80's and settled on some of the golden oldies that I like, weed, blow, opiates....etc.  I gtot no clue what that shit that looks like this......2ocmbe?????whatever the fuck,,,,,,is.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: dolphin on June 20, 2013, 04:16 am
There's a simple formula for a successful transaction.

No FE + Reputable vendor with a rating of 99 to 100% + Consumer reviews that show the product was good and shipped in a safe, timely manner = Successful Transaction.

That's all you need. Study the vendor's pages and review threads diligently. Compare them with others that sell the drug you want. That's it.

And encrypt your address, using your real name.

^^^This.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: bosox61392 on June 20, 2013, 04:19 am
There's a simple formula for a successful transaction.

No FE + Reputable vendor with a rating of 99 to 100% + Consumer reviews that show the product was good and shipped in a safe, timely manner = Successful Transaction.

That's all you need. Study the vendor's pages and review threads diligently. Compare them with others that sell the drug you want. That's it.

And encrypt your address, using your real name.

Couldn't have said it better myself. That's why I'm quotin ya  ;)

^^^This.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: anonlsd on June 20, 2013, 04:20 am
There's a simple formula for a successful transaction.

No FE + Reputable vendor with a rating of 99 to 100% + Consumer reviews that show the product was good and shipped in a safe, timely manner = Successful Transaction.

That's all you need. Study the vendor's pages and review threads diligently. Compare them with others that sell the drug you want. That's it.

And encrypt your address, using your real name.

^^^This.

I agree. Pretty much done this on 9 transactions w/o issues so far. Although I haven't encrypted my address yet cause I'm a lazy dumbass. Oh well
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: bosox61392 on June 20, 2013, 04:27 am
There's a simple formula for a successful transaction.

No FE + Reputable vendor with a rating of 99 to 100% + Consumer reviews that show the product was good and shipped in a safe, timely manner = Successful Transaction.

That's all you need. Study the vendor's pages and review threads diligently. Compare them with others that sell the drug you want. That's it.

And encrypt your address, using your real name.

^^^This.

I agree. Pretty much done this on 9 transactions w/o issues so far. Although I haven't encrypted my address yet cause I'm a lazy dumbass. Oh well

You should grab gpg4usb, extremely simple to use just click a button and its encrypted and you're good to go
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: Whistleblowers on June 26, 2013, 02:08 am
trust no one 8)
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: Fenugreek Seed on June 26, 2013, 02:54 am
Don't finalize early, just don't do it.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ThoseWhoChose on June 27, 2013, 07:55 pm
bump
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: CannabisKing on June 28, 2013, 12:11 am
I am a new seller (who is honest as hell, you will see over the years), and it was hard getting my first deal... but it finally happened. Great post!
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: RealJohnnyDepp on June 28, 2013, 12:15 am
I stopped after reading the first few words....I never received my coins, i got scammed MP to BTC...

Can you edit your post and put on some good ways of requiring BTC safely without giving your info out and without getting easily scammed via MP?
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ThoseWhoChose on July 02, 2013, 07:55 pm
That's always risky. always find a trusted btc seller with good rep.
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: Whistleblowers on July 02, 2013, 09:14 pm
careful ;D
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ThoseWhoChose on July 17, 2013, 10:27 am
So glad I haven't been scammed yet. :)
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ananas_xpress on July 17, 2013, 10:38 am
Shameless self post guys but instead of using e-books to build your stats try my lotteries,
Chances are you will end up with nearly as much as you started (Silk road commissions are nearly 15% now)

Links in my SIG
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ThoseWhoChose on July 28, 2013, 07:01 am
That's crazy. No wonder everything cost alot more!
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: Nobody@Home on July 28, 2013, 12:23 pm
^^ HUH?
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: mightyboosh77 on July 28, 2013, 04:26 pm
just the usual drama drama up in here. ^^^

ignore that shitbag. ;)
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: double0royal on July 29, 2013, 02:20 pm
Thanks for this, great place to start for newbs!

peace
Title: Re: Buyers guide for newcomers worried about getting scammed.
Post by: ThoseWhoChose on August 06, 2013, 10:46 pm
Remember, if you guys are looking to purchase lsd please checkout the avenger's lsd topic Because chances are if you don't purchase from someone with good rep you will be sent some bunk research chemical that has a taste to at, versus lsd which rarely ever does.