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Title: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Virmo on January 11, 2013, 08:46 pm
A friend of mine had a certain amount of product that would lead to quite some jailtime. Now there has been this bitch stalking him and now she pretty much got him.
His fingerprints are all over the bags, perhaps even handwriting with weight etc.

Now everytime something happens, she threatens him to go to the cops with it. Then yeah, he'd be fucked. She is blackmailing but cops will not see that, they will only see drugs.

What to do now? Any way to get her prints off of something and put them on some baggies? If so, how?

Why are people so fucked up sometimes  ::) ??? :o >:(
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Limetless on January 11, 2013, 10:36 pm
Shoot her.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: sgurd on January 11, 2013, 10:57 pm
A friend of mine had a certain amount of product that would lead to quite some jailtime. Now there has been this bitch stalking him and now she pretty much got him.
His fingerprints are all over the bags, perhaps even handwriting with weight etc.

Now everytime something happens, she threatens him to go to the cops with it. Then yeah, he'd be fucked. She is blackmailing but cops will not see that, they will only see drugs.

What to do now? Any way to get her prints off of something and put them on some baggies? If so, how?

Why are people so fucked up sometimes  ::) ??? :o >:(

wait a second who physically is in possession of the bags? And is there still substances in it?
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Undekka on January 11, 2013, 11:01 pm
Isn't stolen evidence inadmissible in court? were they stolen and does this apply to illegal psychoactives?
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: TheJolllyRoger on January 11, 2013, 11:22 pm
Fool her because shes obviously unstable, tell her he really loves her, spread it out over a week or two and then get his gear back, bang the shit out of his ex guilt free then get the fuck out of there?!
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Limetless on January 11, 2013, 11:50 pm
Nah...just shoot her.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Thestral1 on January 12, 2013, 12:25 am
Just tell him to TAKE them from her. It can't be that hard. Does she have a security detail or something? Unstable people are also easy to fool (like TheJollyRoger stated), even the really smart ones. Unless of course, he's dumb as a brick. Hell, just hit her over the head WITH a brick and take back what's his. She stalks him, steals from him, then blackmails him? And he doesn't know how to deal with this?

Shoot her.

Or this. She clearly knows who she's dealing with & she's trying to play the game, taking away her civilian status. She'll probably be a problem in the future as well. Hate to give advice like that, but it IS the game, and there are consequences to threatening someone's freedom and livelihood.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: BruceCampbell on January 12, 2013, 12:40 am
Instead of shooting her, get your mate to talk to her, then bludgeon her unconscious, or preferably drug her with some roofies or GHB or something. Then while drugged, get the gear, and depending on what it is, leave some on her, or put some up her nose, or shoot the bitch up with it.

Then leave her in a stolen car and call the police and say you see someone unconscious in a vehicle on your street and are concerned.

Cops show up, and the bitch is fucked, and nobody has to shoot a bitch. Nobody found drugged in a stolen car is a credible anything, and will definitely end up in jail for awhile.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Jopular on January 12, 2013, 12:50 am
Whatever happens with the bags and prints, she already knows that he is up to some dodgy shit.
As long as she is alive she can divulge this to authorities and compromise your friend.

If you cannot bear to kill her then just kill her cat and say "you're next bitch if ya say out!".

If you are an animal lover then you cannot kill her cat. You might just have to scare the cat.

Disclaimer:
I would give you some ideas for murdering her also. Though I don't really want to be (indirectly) responsible for some murder somewhere.
(please don't kill the cat either).
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Mercury31 on January 12, 2013, 01:51 am
call tha police and tell them that she wanted to sell the product to you
and he picked up the bag to look what she was selling
and then he see;s it is drugs and gave the bag back..

or just put some rhino tranquilizer in here drink and thrash the place like project x
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: summer on January 12, 2013, 01:58 am
Your friend can:

1. clean the house nothing illegal can remain
2. no drugs for at least 3-4 weeks to clean his body
3. piss off the bitch so she takes action - she goes to the police with the baggie, police goes to the kids house, looks for drugs, finds nothing, drug test negative, no evidence other than prints and handwriting.

He can say that those bags were used by him indeed and he kept LEDs or something like that in those, hence the handwriting, the bitch came up to him one day and put some bags in his hands, then took the baggies away, hence the fingerprints.
Make it believable, if he's not into electronics don't say he kept leds in the bags etc.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: nanpa2001 on January 12, 2013, 02:03 am
What kind of stalker? Stalker in the rejected romantic partner sense?

Invite her over and offer her a coffee. The coffee is drugged of course. When she is unconscious, get the evidence.

After that clean your house, wait a few weeks, then ask the court for a restraining order. She will probably say all kinds of things to the police about you, but she will just look like the crazy stalker she is.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: stewpudaso on January 12, 2013, 03:23 am
Isn't stolen evidence inadmissible in court? were they stolen and does this apply to illegal psychoactives?

You are Right Undekka. There is a chain of command for evidence. The Bitch could have stolen a baggie out of his garbage can with his prints on it then put dope in it to frame him. That would be my story. I would tell her to fuck off just to see what happened.....just make sure she didn't stash it in your house!
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Limetless on January 12, 2013, 03:32 am
Just fucking shoot her.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: digit on January 12, 2013, 04:33 am
I knew a guy that had his girlfriend take his pound of stashed weed to the police. They did arrest him and go through his house, but when the time to go to court came it was thrown out and dismissed simply because she could have just

bought the drugs and said they were his, but needless to say your friend still needs to be careful if she were to go to the police and tell them she knows he has drugs they will probably impose a setup of some sort to try to bust him with the

drugs in his possession. So either way he should clean house and lay low for a while.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Limetless on January 12, 2013, 04:35 am
Shoot her.......  ::)
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Undekka on January 12, 2013, 04:41 am
Shoot her.......  ::)

YOU"RE going to get shot at this rate....nah jk  ;)
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Limetless on January 12, 2013, 04:43 am
Shoot her.......  ::)

YOU"RE going to get shot at this rate....nah jk  ;)

Lol yeah I know I'm getting annoying but who the fuck we kidding here? This isn't one of those "Hmmm let's sit down at the United Nations in 1994 and think about effective we can be in Rwanda......" situations. She's puttin that on you, just get rid.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Virmo on January 12, 2013, 12:56 pm
A friend of mine had a certain amount of product that would lead to quite some jailtime. Now there has been this bitch stalking him and now she pretty much got him.
His fingerprints are all over the bags, perhaps even handwriting with weight etc.

Now everytime something happens, she threatens him to go to the cops with it. Then yeah, he'd be fucked. She is blackmailing but cops will not see that, they will only see drugs.

What to do now? Any way to get her prints off of something and put them on some baggies? If so, how?

Why are people so fucked up sometimes  ::) ??? :o >:(

wait a second who physically is in possession of the bags? And is there still substances in it?

The stalker. Raped him from getting a lot of money and fun for it.

Isn't stolen evidence inadmissible in court? were they stolen and does this apply to illegal psychoactives?

Illegal, yes. Police would also take it away and if you're very lucky nothing else happens. Otherwise you go to jail or something that fucks up the rest of your life.

Nah...just shoot her.

Armory is closed :(

Just tell him to TAKE them from her. It can't be that hard. Does she have a security detail or something? Unstable people are also easy to fool (like TheJollyRoger stated), even the really smart ones. Unless of course, he's dumb as a brick. Hell, just hit her over the head WITH a brick and take back what's his. She stalks him, steals from him, then blackmails him? And he doesn't know how to deal with this?

Shoot her.

Or this. She clearly knows who she's dealing with & she's trying to play the game, taking away her civilian status. She'll probably be a problem in the future as well. Hate to give advice like that, but it IS the game, and there are consequences to threatening someone's freedom and livelihood.

There is no way to fool the stalker. Instead, stalker has a lot of power over victim.

Instead of shooting her, get your mate to talk to her, then bludgeon her unconscious, or preferably drug her with some roofies or GHB or something. Then while drugged, get the gear, and depending on what it is, leave some on her, or put some up her nose, or shoot the bitch up with it.

Then leave her in a stolen car and call the police and say you see someone unconscious in a vehicle on your street and are concerned.

Cops show up, and the bitch is fucked, and nobody has to shoot a bitch. Nobody found drugged in a stolen car is a credible anything, and will definitely end up in jail for awhile.

Gear is nowhere to be found.

call tha police and tell them that she wanted to sell the product to you
and he picked up the bag to look what she was selling
and then he see;s it is drugs and gave the bag back..

or just put some rhino tranquilizer in here drink and thrash the place like project x

Result would be: bag handed over to police with prints of victim. Which is actually what is to be avoided.
(Plus getting it back before they go bad. Was some REAL high quality stuff).

What kind of stalker? Stalker in the rejected romantic partner sense?

Invite her over and offer her a coffee. The coffee is drugged of course. When she is unconscious, get the evidence.

After that clean your house, wait a few weeks, then ask the court for a restraining order. She will probably say all kinds of things to the police about you, but she will just look like the crazy stalker she is.

How do you make coffee drugged without it being tasted? 2-3ml gbl will be noticed I think.
Victim already seems like what the crazy stalker is. She is always one or more steps ahead. Would be better if she was retarded as well...

No not romantically. I have no words for it.

Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Jopular on January 12, 2013, 01:07 pm
If this 'lady' gets killed then their are people here with blood on their hands.
The op or his friend might not have been considering murder without so many people here advocating it.

eta
Once you have one murder under your belt, the next is so much easier (and fun).
This thread might have helped create someone who goes on to kill again and again as the solution to all of lifes little problems.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: nanpa2001 on January 12, 2013, 01:17 pm
Depending on the situation, killing a stalker might be the best option. I know someone that has come to great harm by a stalker.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Jopular on January 12, 2013, 01:23 pm
That's a good point.
Even minor celebrities have been killed by stalkers.

If it comes down to your life or the stalkers then I would choose mine.
But hopefully it would never come to that. But how could you be sure? By getting them 1st, that's how.
Could tell police your concerns but you probably don't want that extra danger when you are up to illegal things.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: SpaceAce on January 12, 2013, 02:07 pm
the stalker bitch does sound crazyy... your life or hers I suppose
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Jopular on January 12, 2013, 02:28 pm
Please let us know the outcome of all this OP.
In fact video the killing (if that is what ends up happening) and put it on youtube so we can watch it.
But only kill if you have to. Make sure you can self-verify yourself as being of sound enough mind to make this decision.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Jonny Bench on January 12, 2013, 07:32 pm
You sound like a 15 year old kid who probably shouldn't be playing with this shit to begin with.
Measure the risk, if she's a genuine risk to your freedom then get rid of her. Doesn't sound like she's not going to the police with it or she would have already. It's a bargaining chip.
What's she want out of this? People don't take these kinds of risk for shits and giggles.
Obviously she sees you and your friend as nothing but a joke. My thoughts are you (or him) are the kind of guys that look down at your toes when you meet someone who intimidates you. You freak out or stutter when talking to police and probably look the part of the average low end street dealer.
If you're going to be in the kind of business you're referring to you can't be a pussy. If you can't defend your assets, get out. If you can't afford a loss, get out. It's that simple.
I'm not trying to bash you guys, this is a reality check. Not everyone is cut out to do this kind of business.
My advice, she's in posession of a controlled substance. Keep your living area clean, count your losses and move on.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: BruceCampbell on January 12, 2013, 08:45 pm
Please let us know the outcome of all this OP.
In fact video the killing (if that is what ends up happening) and put it on youtube so we can watch it.
But only kill if you have to. Make sure you can self-verify yourself as being of sound enough mind to make this decision.

This isn't creepy or anything...
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Jopular on January 12, 2013, 09:08 pm
Any advice I have given in this thread errs on the side of not killing.  I do not want any blood on my hands.

There are people here advocating shooting her. Quite a few here are trying to influence the OP into murder (or getting op's friend to murder).  Not me, I'm trying to stay neutral!

But I wouldn't mind seeing the results :)
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Jonny Bench on January 12, 2013, 11:56 pm
Relax Jop. This kid's no killer.
Murder is the last result for anything, not because of  moral grounds but because of the legal mess it can get you in.
Chances are people know there is something going between these 3 and if they did anything, they would be prime suspects.
File a restraining order if you're worried about her. Tell them you fear for your life, make up an elaborate store about how she's a drug addict and when you tried to take her drugs away she freaked out, got them back and has been terrorizing your ever since. Now there's reason for your finger prints on anything. You have the legal system on your side and if she shows up to the police with anything they'll just arrest her for posession.
Personally I would just say fuck it, pop an ambien and sleep it off until she gets bored.

Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Limetless on January 13, 2013, 06:30 am
Shoot her.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on January 13, 2013, 06:53 am
Shoot her.

+1

Also poison works a treat, just mix up some cyanide into a perfume bottle and be standing upwind from her, spray it in her face and walk off.

If you do it right it will be enough to waste the bitch without having any suspicion come back on you, they will put it down to a heart attack or drug overdose and you can walk freely with the safe knowlege she won't be coming back any time soon.

Or, you could just kick the cunts doors in, tie her up, and burn it out of her!

- JWM
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: DiamondSky on January 13, 2013, 07:23 am
My thinking would probably be along these lines:

1. Take drugs / drink with her.
2. Wait for her to pass out.
3. Pay an underage boy to come over slowly shit on her face as you video tape the process.
4. Offer a trade.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: AussieMitch on January 13, 2013, 07:32 am
Normally i'd just shoot her, but i'd be concerned about police investigating her death finding the package. This situation is all about damage control.

Does she live in a house or apartment building?

If she lives in a house, sneak over in the middle of the night and burn her house down. This will destroy the evidence, and if she doesn't die in the process she will learn her lesson.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Driver613 on January 13, 2013, 04:18 pm
2 options.. 1 you just fuck her over 2 you get your drugs back

1) I would clean the computer and house of any and all illegal things.

Call the Police and tell them you have a stalker and want a restraing order against her.

Also at the same time tell them she has a large amount of drugs that she is threatening to pin against you.

Get your story 100% and get a friend to agree with it. Your going to be questioned but stick to the story and get this bitch what she deserves...


2) Threaten her with buring down her house or blowing up her car.

2.5) drug the shit out of her and get her to tell you.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: TalkingHead on January 13, 2013, 07:52 pm
Did I miss something? Unless she really planned ahead (is she that good?) and wore gloves when she jacked your friend's shit then aren't HER fingerprints all over it, too? She couldn't wipe those off without wiping your friend's too, right?
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: whowhatwhere on January 14, 2013, 11:50 pm
Just fucking shoot her.
I literally lol'd  ;D
It's like he's not listening to you!
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Thestral1 on January 15, 2013, 05:08 am
Did I miss something? Unless she really planned ahead (is she that good?) and wore gloves when she jacked your friend's shit then aren't HER fingerprints all over it, too? She couldn't wipe those off without wiping your friend's too, right?

Good point. Unfortunately she'll just say that she took them from him and that's why her fingerprints are on them. and we've been focusing on the bag: remember that a ledger with his handwriting and weights may 'perhaps' be in her possession, complicating things a bit. The thing going for him, legally, are that items are stolen (I'm not speaking for recovery, but any lawyer will get this thrown out), and that she's a toon. Which means she's probably done other crazy things and has a sheet. But who wants to call in the law for when you're breaking it yourself in numerous way?

We still don't know how much weight this guy deals in daily/weekly, or what he even dabbles in (unless I missed something), but my opinion is that this game is not for him. You need a support system, preferably consisting of family who you work with or at least call upon in cases such as these. Sounds like he's alone and doesn't know what to do. If one person can mentally hold him hostage like this his future isn't looking bright (no offense if this 'friend' isn't actually you).

I'd love to hear the outcome of this but totally not expecting to.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: mrxempire on January 15, 2013, 08:12 am
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Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: ch0sen on January 16, 2013, 01:23 am
Call the cops and tell them she is holding.  They won't care of course but possession 9/10ths of the law. 
Call them and tell them she is holding and doing drugs in front of kids at her house.  That will get their attention. Kids...

Or, build a case against her.  Start keeping a journal of everything she does and time stamp it.  Send yourself an email
describing every incident at the time of the incident.  Then if she ever does flip you can say she has been harassing you
for a long time.

Or just listen to Limetless. Theirs was the best advice.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Virmo on January 16, 2013, 02:57 am
I would never consider killing somebody, sorry guys.

I was wondering more how you can put somebodies prints on an object. With tape perhaps?
But how to see the prints?
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Razorspyne on January 16, 2013, 01:07 pm
Did I miss something? Unless she really planned ahead (is she that good?) and wore gloves when she jacked your friend's shit then aren't HER fingerprints all over it, too? She couldn't wipe those off without wiping your friend's too, right?

Good point. Unfortunately she'll just say that she took them from him and that's why her fingerprints are on them. and we've been focusing on the bag: remember that a ledger with his handwriting and weights may 'perhaps' be in her possession, complicating things a bit. The thing going for him, legally, are that items are stolen (I'm not speaking for recovery, but any lawyer will get this thrown out), and that she's a toon. Which means she's probably done other crazy things and has a sheet. But who wants to call in the law for when you're breaking it yourself in numerous way?

We still don't know how much weight this guy deals in daily/weekly, or what he even dabbles in (unless I missed something), but my opinion is that this game is not for him. You need a support system, preferably consisting of family who you work with or at least call upon in cases such as these. Sounds like he's alone and doesn't know what to do. If one person can mentally hold him hostage like this his future isn't looking bright (no offense if this 'friend' isn't actually you).

I'd love to hear the outcome of this but totally not expecting to.

Good advice Thestral1. You know what helps in a situation like this? Balls. You (or they) need to clamp down and do it quick. I can't advise a permanent solution as a mod will see it and probably pull my acc/ for promoting murder, so I'll let you fill in the blanks, but with a situation like this, she will never ever stop blackmailing you...... and they just get worse. Once a blackmailer always a blackmailer, always a little worse (and dangerous) each time they do it. I see only one solution here, I'm afraid. These sort of people are cowardly, yet dangerous at the same time. Only thing you can rely on, is that it will get worse. Shame I can't give the politically correct solution, because that would be not be a solution at all, but continue this cycle of abuse. Undekka's point valid.....  but I wouldn't trust this sort of a person in court as they may find a way to weasel out of it, despite the fact that, yes, stolen evidence (if by LE) is inadmissible in court, she is not LE is she? Besides, according to a fucktard at McDonalds.......

"The seizure of evidence by a citizen does not fall under the same rules as those, ie the police, who represent the government in conforming to the constitutional issues of evidence collection." (Actually in LE for 30 years, but yeah, I imagine they eat hamburgers so it technically is true.)

I'm not saying I would do that myself in the same situation because I am NOT in that situation and until I am in that situation I guess I really don't know for sure, would I? But if you wanted a logical solution then you can't get more effective than a non-reversible severance of the Central Nervous System from the rest of the body for all time. You wanted logic, right?

In reality though, this is probably never going to happen, and the abuse will continue for some time. But trust me, it will get worse and worse and trying to get crafty and outwit while leaving them alive is so horribly ineffective. I'm not saying I would do that, I'm saying I wouldn't not not do that, and if you want a solution I think really there's only one. You'd be surprised by how far raw hatred will carry you. I think it's a lot easier than most people think, but getting away with it is what stops most people as they cannot solve this problem quickly and easily.

Anyway. Whatever. I guess I don't like people like that. I'm not saying to kill them, I'm just saying don't necessarily not kill them, try and keep an open mind on the subject.

I hope this post doesn't ruin my reputation as Silk Road's friendliest muffin.

Piece out. Drive safely. Eat plenty, healthy, and remember to get enough water and vegies into your system. Much love, everybody!  ;) ::) (Sucky sucky sucky sucky.....!) :-*


[Edit. Speaking of bumping people off, I came across this in December http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php?p=view_listing&id=1360 . Good grief, I'm not suggesting you make an acc/, buy it from coerd and then mix it into her food or coffee, which he says is untraceable btw, not at all..... (Seems a Razorspyne is registered on there, must be a different Raz though. ::) )
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: whowhatwhere on January 16, 2013, 09:01 pm
Did I miss something? Unless she really planned ahead (is she that good?) and wore gloves when she jacked your friend's shit then aren't HER fingerprints all over it, too? She couldn't wipe those off without wiping your friend's too, right?

Good point. Unfortunately she'll just say that she took them from him and that's why her fingerprints are on them. and we've been focusing on the bag: remember that a ledger with his handwriting and weights may 'perhaps' be in her possession, complicating things a bit. The thing going for him, legally, are that items are stolen (I'm not speaking for recovery, but any lawyer will get this thrown out), and that she's a toon. Which means she's probably done other crazy things and has a sheet. But who wants to call in the law for when you're breaking it yourself in numerous way?

We still don't know how much weight this guy deals in daily/weekly, or what he even dabbles in (unless I missed something), but my opinion is that this game is not for him. You need a support system, preferably consisting of family who you work with or at least call upon in cases such as these. Sounds like he's alone and doesn't know what to do. If one person can mentally hold him hostage like this his future isn't looking bright (no offense if this 'friend' isn't actually you).

I'd love to hear the outcome of this but totally not expecting to.

Good advice Thestral1. You know what helps in a situation like this? Balls. You (or they) need to clamp down and do it quick. I can't advise a permanent solution as a mod will see it and probably pull my acc/ for promoting murder, so I'll let you fill in the blanks, but with a situation like this, she will never ever stop blackmailing you...... and they just get worse. Once a blackmailer always a blackmailer, always a little worse (and dangerous) each time they do it. I see only one solution here, I'm afraid. These sort of people are cowardly, yet dangerous at the same time. Only thing you can rely on, is that it will get worse. Shame I can't give the politically correct solution, because that would be not be a solution at all, but continue this cycle of abuse. Undekka's point valid.....  but I wouldn't trust this sort of a person in court as they may find a way to weasel out of it, despite the fact that, yes, stolen evidence (if by LE) is inadmissible in court, she is not LE is she? Besides, according to a fucktard at McDonalds.......

"The seizure of evidence by a citizen does not fall under the same rules as those, ie the police, who represent the government in conforming to the constitutional issues of evidence collection." (Actually in LE for 30 years, but yeah, I imagine they eat hamburgers so it technically is true.)

I'm not saying I would do that myself in the same situation because I am NOT in that situation and until I am in that situation I guess I really don't know for sure, would I? But if you wanted a logical solution then you can't get more effective than a non-reversible severance of the Central Nervous System from the rest of the body for all time. You wanted logic, right?

In reality though, this is probably never going to happen, and the abuse will continue for some time. But trust me, it will get worse and worse and trying to get crafty and outwit while leaving them alive is so horribly ineffective. I'm not saying I would do that, I'm saying I wouldn't not not do that, and if you want a solution I think really there's only one. You'd be surprised by how far raw hatred will carry you. I think it's a lot easier than most people think, but getting away with it is what stops most people as they cannot solve this problem quickly and easily.

Anyway. Whatever. I guess I don't like people like that. I'm not saying to kill them, I'm just saying don't necessarily not kill them, try and keep an open mind on the subject.

I hope this post doesn't ruin my reputation as Silk Road's friendliest muffin.

Piece out. Drive safely. Eat plenty, healthy, and remember to get enough water and vegies into your system. Much love, everybody!  ;) ::) (Sucky sucky sucky sucky.....!) :-*


[Edit. Speaking of bumping people off, I came across this in December http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php?p=view_listing&id=1360 . Good grief, I'm not suggesting you make an acc/, buy it from coerd and then mix it into her food or coffee, which he says is untraceable btw, not at all..... (Seems a Razorspyne is registered on there, must be a different Raz though. ::) )

Very logical advice by Razorspyne!  Don't quote them on that though  ;)
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: GerOne on January 16, 2013, 09:04 pm
Scopolamine mate... (burundanga) I am sure there is someone on SR who can hook you up with it for the right price, even if it's pretty rare.

/thread
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: whowhatwhere on January 16, 2013, 09:07 pm
Did I miss something? Unless she really planned ahead (is she that good?) and wore gloves when she jacked your friend's shit then aren't HER fingerprints all over it, too? She couldn't wipe those off without wiping your friend's too, right?

Good point. Unfortunately she'll just say that she took them from him and that's why her fingerprints are on them. and we've been focusing on the bag: remember that a ledger with his handwriting and weights may 'perhaps' be in her possession, complicating things a bit. The thing going for him, legally, are that items are stolen (I'm not speaking for recovery, but any lawyer will get this thrown out), and that she's a toon. Which means she's probably done other crazy things and has a sheet. But who wants to call in the law for when you're breaking it yourself in numerous way?

We still don't know how much weight this guy deals in daily/weekly, or what he even dabbles in (unless I missed something), but my opinion is that this game is not for him. You need a support system, preferably consisting of family who you work with or at least call upon in cases such as these. Sounds like he's alone and doesn't know what to do. If one person can mentally hold him hostage like this his future isn't looking bright (no offense if this 'friend' isn't actually you).

I'd love to hear the outcome of this but totally not expecting to.

Good advice Thestral1. You know what helps in a situation like this? Balls. You (or they) need to clamp down and do it quick. I can't advise a permanent solution as a mod will see it and probably pull my acc/ for promoting murder, so I'll let you fill in the blanks, but with a situation like this, she will never ever stop blackmailing you...... and they just get worse. Once a blackmailer always a blackmailer, always a little worse (and dangerous) each time they do it. I see only one solution here, I'm afraid. These sort of people are cowardly, yet dangerous at the same time. Only thing you can rely on, is that it will get worse. Shame I can't give the politically correct solution, because that would be not be a solution at all, but continue this cycle of abuse. Undekka's point valid.....  but I wouldn't trust this sort of a person in court as they may find a way to weasel out of it, despite the fact that, yes, stolen evidence (if by LE) is inadmissible in court, she is not LE is she? Besides, according to a fucktard at McDonalds.......

"The seizure of evidence by a citizen does not fall under the same rules as those, ie the police, who represent the government in conforming to the constitutional issues of evidence collection." (Actually in LE for 30 years, but yeah, I imagine they eat hamburgers so it technically is true.)

I'm not saying I would do that myself in the same situation because I am NOT in that situation and until I am in that situation I guess I really don't know for sure, would I? But if you wanted a logical solution then you can't get more effective than a non-reversible severance of the Central Nervous System from the rest of the body for all time. You wanted logic, right?

In reality though, this is probably never going to happen, and the abuse will continue for some time. But trust me, it will get worse and worse and trying to get crafty and outwit while leaving them alive is so horribly ineffective. I'm not saying I would do that, I'm saying I wouldn't not not do that, and if you want a solution I think really there's only one. You'd be surprised by how far raw hatred will carry you. I think it's a lot easier than most people think, but getting away with it is what stops most people as they cannot solve this problem quickly and easily.

Anyway. Whatever. I guess I don't like people like that. I'm not saying to kill them, I'm just saying don't necessarily not kill them, try and keep an open mind on the subject.

I hope this post doesn't ruin my reputation as Silk Road's friendliest muffin.

Piece out. Drive safely. Eat plenty, healthy, and remember to get enough water and vegies into your system. Much love, everybody!  ;) ::) (Sucky sucky sucky sucky.....!) :-*


[Edit. Speaking of bumping people off, I came across this in December http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion/index.php?p=view_listing&id=1360 . Good grief, I'm not suggesting you make an acc/, buy it from coerd and then mix it into her food or coffee, which he says is untraceable btw, not at all..... (Seems a Razorspyne is registered on there, must be a different Raz though. ::) )
BTW OP, if you need more info about the product at that link, just watch a few episodes of Breaking Bad  8)
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: tempo on January 18, 2013, 09:45 am
Yet another how-to-video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOa8ZouHvYM#t=0h3m25s
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: shakedown street on January 22, 2013, 01:23 am
Clean up your shit(house,car etc...) call the cops and tell them the bitch has a meth lab in the house with her kids(anonymously of course).
When the pigs kick her door in they will find the dope. If they don't, you know the bitch sold it, then SHOOT HER
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Daft Phader on January 24, 2013, 04:19 pm
....she can recieve packages right? ...lol
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Razorspyne on January 31, 2013, 01:56 pm
And this whole time I've been thinking I could only get free stuff by hanging out in the park giving out BJ's, HJ's, and ZJ's?! And buddy, if you have to ask what a ZJ is, you can't afford one.

Answer this q. Thestral1 for 1 +K: lol, what is a ZJ? I thought you were talking about drugs (look I was busy at time lol, half read it) and I thought, did they just write BJ? Did they just write HJ? Those aren't drugs! ::) What is a ZJ?

In a. to the OP q., have already a. in length.... can't ignore this problem, these people get worse and worse. What a rat.... so low.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: blueveil on January 31, 2013, 04:19 pm
a friendly vendor might help you out......... just saiyan lol

But yah I am of the mind you clean up. Call the bluff then put 3 in her. Even threatening to use the authorities against you is like putting a gun to your head. I say once you put someone in a position to kill you it's your own fault for not understanding your fucking with peoples entire LIVES. I otherwise am a peaceful person but if it's you or me doing jailtime....... You're doing it or you're dieing one of the two.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: DiamondSky on January 31, 2013, 07:54 pm
And this whole time I've been thinking I could only get free stuff by hanging out in the park giving out BJ's, HJ's, and ZJ's?! And buddy, if you have to ask what a ZJ is, you can't afford one.

Answer this q. Thestral1 for 1 +K: lol, what is a ZJ? I thought you were talking about drugs (look I was busy at time lol, half read it) and I thought, did they just write BJ? Did they just write HJ? Those aren't drugs! ::) What is a ZJ?

In a. to the OP q., have already a. in length.... can't ignore this problem, these people get worse and worse. What a rat.... so low.

After doing exaustive research this seems to be the most accurate answer I could find:

ZJ
the act of receiving oral sex from a caucasian zimbabwe hooker as she balances a basket of fruit on her head, for every piece of fruit that falls out of the basket, a 2 dollar discount is awarded
i got this mango from the zj i got earlier, two dollars off
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Mishrume on January 31, 2013, 08:08 pm
And this whole time I've been thinking I could only get free stuff by hanging out in the park giving out BJ's, HJ's, and ZJ's?! And buddy, if you have to ask what a ZJ is, you can't afford one.

Answer this q. Thestral1 for 1 +K: lol, what is a ZJ? I thought you were talking about drugs (look I was busy at time lol, half read it) and I thought, did they just write BJ? Did they just write HJ? Those aren't drugs! ::) What is a ZJ?

In a. to the OP q., have already a. in length.... can't ignore this problem, these people get worse and worse. What a rat.... so low.

After doing exaustive research this seems to be the most accurate answer I could find:

ZJ
the act of receiving oral sex from a caucasian zimbabwe hooker as she balances a basket of fruit on her head, for every piece of fruit that falls out of the basket, a 2 dollar discount is awarded
i got this mango from the zj i got earlier, two dollars off

Pretty sure it's a quote from a movie. Can't for the life of me remember what that movie is tho.. My thoughts are clouded by Diazepam at the moment  8)
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Razorspyne on January 31, 2013, 09:08 pm
And this whole time I've been thinking I could only get free stuff by hanging out in the park giving out BJ's, HJ's, and ZJ's?! And buddy, if you have to ask what a ZJ is, you can't afford one.

Answer this q. Thestral1 for 1 +K: lol, what is a ZJ? I thought you were talking about drugs (look I was busy at time lol, half read it) and I thought, did they just write BJ? Did they just write HJ? Those aren't drugs! ::) What is a ZJ?

In a. to the OP q., have already a. in length.... can't ignore this problem, these people get worse and worse. What a rat.... so low.

After doing exaustive research this seems to be the most accurate answer I could find:

ZJ
the act of receiving oral sex from a caucasian zimbabwe hooker as she balances a basket of fruit on her head, for every piece of fruit that falls out of the basket, a 2 dollar discount is awarded
i got this mango from the zj i got earlier, two dollars off

Lol Diamond, TY for making me lol. (+K :) ) Somehow I don't think that's it roflmfao. I'll wait for Thestral1 to get back, but she not very prolific on posting.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: whowhatwhere on January 31, 2013, 09:25 pm
And this whole time I've been thinking I could only get free stuff by hanging out in the park giving out BJ's, HJ's, and ZJ's?! And buddy, if you have to ask what a ZJ is, you can't afford one.

Answer this q. Thestral1 for 1 +K: lol, what is a ZJ? I thought you were talking about drugs (look I was busy at time lol, half read it) and I thought, did they just write BJ? Did they just write HJ? Those aren't drugs! ::) What is a ZJ?

In a. to the OP q., have already a. in length.... can't ignore this problem, these people get worse and worse. What a rat.... so low.

After doing exaustive research this seems to be the most accurate answer I could find:

ZJ
the act of receiving oral sex from a caucasian zimbabwe hooker as she balances a basket of fruit on her head, for every piece of fruit that falls out of the basket, a 2 dollar discount is awarded
i got this mango from the zj i got earlier, two dollars off

Pretty sure it's a quote from a movie. Can't for the life of me remember what that movie is tho.. My thoughts are clouded by Diazepam at the moment  8)

MYSTERY SOLVED!!
The movie is Beerfest:
Barry Badrinath: It's $10 for a BJ, $12 for an HJ, $15 for a ZJ...
Landfill: [Interrupting] What's a ZJ?
Barry Badrinath: If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
Steve "Fink" Finklestein: [Trying to persuade Landfill] I've got $4.

 8)
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Mishrume on January 31, 2013, 09:29 pm
I fucking knew it was beerfest but my brain kept saying "nah you haven't watched it recently, can't be beerfest" ffs!
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: whowhatwhere on January 31, 2013, 09:43 pm
I fucking knew it was beerfest but my brain kept saying "nah you haven't watched it recently, can't be beerfest" ffs!
I've only seen it once but I knew it sounded really familiar too.. a little Google-fu produced the correct result  ;D
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Mishrume on January 31, 2013, 09:47 pm
I fucking knew it was beerfest but my brain kept saying "nah you haven't watched it recently, can't be beerfest" ffs!
I've only seen it once but I knew it sounded really familiar too.. a little Google-fu produced the correct result  ;D

+1 for that mate! Just goes to show, trust your instinct not your brain haha
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: whowhatwhere on January 31, 2013, 10:05 pm
I fucking knew it was beerfest but my brain kept saying "nah you haven't watched it recently, can't be beerfest" ffs!
I've only seen it once but I knew it sounded really familiar too.. a little Google-fu produced the correct result  ;D

+1 for that mate! Just goes to show, trust your instinct not your brain haha
Hah I agree, +1 to you as well sir!
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: Razorspyne on January 31, 2013, 11:42 pm
And this whole time I've been thinking I could only get free stuff by hanging out in the park giving out BJ's, HJ's, and ZJ's?! And buddy, if you have to ask what a ZJ is, you can't afford one.

Answer this q. Thestral1 for 1 +K: lol, what is a ZJ? I thought you were talking about drugs (look I was busy at time lol, half read it) and I thought, did they just write BJ? Did they just write HJ? Those aren't drugs! ::) What is a ZJ?

In a. to the OP q., have already a. in length.... can't ignore this problem, these people get worse and worse. What a rat.... so low.

After doing exaustive research this seems to be the most accurate answer I could find:

ZJ
the act of receiving oral sex from a caucasian zimbabwe hooker as she balances a basket of fruit on her head, for every piece of fruit that falls out of the basket, a 2 dollar discount is awarded
i got this mango from the zj i got earlier, two dollars off

Pretty sure it's a quote from a movie. Can't for the life of me remember what that movie is tho.. My thoughts are clouded by Diazepam at the moment  8)

MYSTERY SOLVED!!
The movie is Beerfest:
Barry Badrinath: It's $10 for a BJ, $12 for an HJ, $15 for a ZJ...
Landfill: [Interrupting] What's a ZJ?
Barry Badrinath: If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
Steve "Fink" Finklestein: [Trying to persuade Landfill] I've got $4.

 8)

Ha ha, lol-lah www! Lol, I actually thought Thestral1 did that stuff in the park to men so TY for giving her back her good reputation pmsl :D (I still am no closer to finding out what it is lol. :( I have a feeling it may not be what Diamond researched :) lol. Thestral1 doesn't post much so good luck to them coming back to this thread.)
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: MrBing2012 on February 04, 2013, 06:16 pm
Shoot her.
Nah...just shoot her.
Just fucking shoot her.

You guys are just making it more complicated than it has to be, looks like Lim has the right idea though.
Title: Re: Friends product got stolen by stalker, now stalker keeps it for prints,wtdo?
Post by: warmkitty on February 04, 2013, 10:18 pm
Hey i saw an x-files very similar to this . Your freind will need to get the skin of his fingers replaced.