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Title: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Veetano on May 15, 2013, 08:00 pm
I've been using SR for over a year+, and never told any of my friends about it. I get a lot of stuff on the road, and sell to them, and have been for the last 2 years.

Today I had a talk with them about acid and RC's, and someone brought up SR saying everyone they know uses it, and that it's sketchy and filled with bad acid and other RC's, and that it's not even worth using....Apparently they've all used it at one point, and gotten bad acid or something.

Why do they all have this consensus? Are they just stupid? Do they simply not research? Obviously I have no interest in bringing this up to them as I don't want them to use SR for my own personal reasons, but where do they get these ideas from?

SR is incredibly safe as far as I am concerned, though I use a lot of encryption, thoroughly investigate and research any vendor I do business with, and conversate with them heavily before purchasing anything. I can see how one bad transaction, or the idea of getting drugs through the mail can throw people off... but I think it's safer than people convince themselves it is.

I know a number of traffickers not on SR doing 10-20lbs+ through the USPS on a regular basis who have never had any issues what so ever.... they just only ship domestically and make sure their packaging isn't fucking retarded.

What do you guys think. Are my friends just stupid? Is the average person just stupid, and it's good that only people of a certain intelligence can safely use SR? I've always had a good head on my shoulders, but I just want to understand what might be going through my friends heads to make them think these things.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Wepromisetwenty on May 15, 2013, 08:23 pm
This is an interesting one, isnt it.

I also have told almost no-one that I use this place. I couldn't even tell you why in a concise manner. The one person I have told, I made sure they didn't pass it onto anyone. I guess I feel lucky to be a part of this, and its not that I want to keep it for myself, its that I don't trust it in the wrong hands. So from that - you could well infer that I too think my friends are idiots.

I do think it takes a certain type of folk to make the best of this place - and I'm not totally sure you can measure it just on intelligence. That may be a small part of it, but its more like a combination of intelligence, motivation, and open-mindedness and commitment. Its a special blend of all of these things.

In the first instance you've got to be open minded enough to even believe that this can even exist - i'm sure there are those that fall at the first hurdle. Find it too hard to get their first coins, and decide its all a farce. They get past that... and they've got to be intelligent enough to figure out what this whole market model equates to (which is A LOT of complex things - I could ramble for hours on what I think of this). Anyway, if you can get there - you're feeling inquisitive, and enthusiastic about the possibilities. So that gives you the commitment you need to keep going, even if/when you get burned - which I think many users on here have been, at least once.

So, without all that, I can see why your friends, and I believe my friends, would write this place off as overpriced or sketchy. The logical mind will tell you that there's more to this place than first meets the eye. Unfortunately, that ain't everyone.

Perseverance is key  8)
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Wepromisetwenty on May 15, 2013, 08:26 pm
Oh, and +1... Interesting topic for sure. Wonder how many other folks have had similar experiences.

On a side note - I sometimes find myself wondering if theres anyone on this forum that I actually know in a real life capacity, since i've kept so quiet about my usage. Might seem crazy, but its a small world, isnt it.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Veetano on May 15, 2013, 08:40 pm
Haha yeah. It's gonna be funny, my friends will be trash talking SR for some bad acid they got while tripping on some amazing acid I got here on the road. Hehehe. They'll never know.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 15, 2013, 09:19 pm
That's funny!

I know there are people on here that used to know me. ;)  But they'll never know it's me and I don't buy anything on SR except maybe some occasional weed because I quit growing and don't want several pounds. :)
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: mrlavish on May 15, 2013, 10:01 pm
That's funny!

I know there are people on here that used to know me. ;)  But they'll never know it's me and I don't buy anything on SR except maybe some occasional weed because I quit growing and don't want several pounds. :)

I've been here almost 2 years now, and no one I know knows about this place or that I use it. I have gotten things for friends off here, but they have no idea about SR, and to be honest I don't thnk they would even understand it, if I told them.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: jameslink2 on May 15, 2013, 10:28 pm
Oh, and +1... Interesting topic for sure. Wonder how many other folks have had similar experiences.

On a side note - I sometimes find myself wondering if theres anyone on this forum that I actually know in a real life capacity, since i've kept so quiet about my usage. Might seem crazy, but its a small world, isnt it.

Ill admit that I got an order for shrooms on SR and the person ordering it was someone I used to sell to locally. Then he stops by 3 days after he finalized to show me the great shrooms he got. Would not say where (I don't do any local dealing any more) just that he has a new source and if I wanted I could buy some from him.

It was all I could do to simply say "You know I am out of that stuff, I really dont need any" and not say "You idiot, you bought those from me"

I tell no one about SR or that I am a vendor.

SR is getting very popular, almost everyone I used to sell to or buy from seems to know about and order stuff from SR.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: londonpride2 on May 15, 2013, 10:37 pm
I've been using SR for over a year+, and never told any of my friends about it. I get a lot of stuff on the road, and sell to them, and have been for the last 2 years.

Today I had a talk with them about acid and RC's, and someone brought up SR saying everyone they know uses it, and that it's sketchy and filled with bad acid and other RC's, and that it's not even worth using....Apparently they've all used it at one point, and gotten bad acid or something.

Why do they all have this consensus? Are they just stupid? Do they simply not research? Obviously I have no interest in bringing this up to them as I don't want them to use SR for my own personal reasons, but where do they get these ideas from?

SR is incredibly safe as far as I am concerned, though I use a lot of encryption, thoroughly investigate and research any vendor I do business with, and conversate with them heavily before purchasing anything. I can see how one bad transaction, or the idea of getting drugs through the mail can throw people off... but I think it's safer than people convince themselves it is.

I know a number of traffickers not on SR doing 10-20lbs+ through the USPS on a regular basis who have never had any issues what so ever.... they just only ship domestically and make sure their packaging isn't fucking retarded.

What do you guys think. Are my friends just stupid? Is the average person just stupid, and it's good that only people of a certain intelligence can safely use SR? I've always had a good head on my shoulders, but I just want to understand what might be going through my friends heads to make them think these things.

People are lazy and stupid, its easier to slag off the road than it is to research, put the effort in, learn some basic computer skills (beyond facebook). Nicer for them to believe they are not missing anything than except the possibility a place this amazing exists and they are missing out.

That would be my guess. I try to keep the stupid people away from the road anyway, and by stupid I mean not computer literate nor that bright. 
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: RxKing on May 15, 2013, 10:56 pm
+1...GREAT THREAD and Funny. And I say BOTH :D
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Squirrel on May 15, 2013, 11:21 pm
I say make it even harder to get in.  The idea of going to invitation only sounds good to me.   The list of people who should not come on the internet and do illegal things is very large and these same poor souls draw unneeded attention when they inevitably fuck up.  The only press you'll see about SR related arrests are about those who are either too young to know better or are too stupid in the first place.  I say keep 'em out and leave this place to those who know how to consume and deal drugs (and other 'stuff') properly.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 15, 2013, 11:27 pm
I say make it even harder to get in.  The idea of going to invitation only sounds good to me.   The list of people who should not come on the internet and do illegal things is very large and these same poor souls draw unneeded attention when they inevitably fuck up.  The only press you'll see about SR related arrests are about those who are either too young to know better or are too stupid in the first place.  I say keep 'em out and leave this place to those who know how to consume and deal drugs (and other 'stuff') properly.

The more users, the safer it is for us, the smarter ones.  It's a free market.  When people say this it sounds like they are buying high priced drugs on SR and selling them locally at even higher prices and don't want to lose their customers to SR.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Railgun on May 16, 2013, 12:49 am
I say make it even harder to get in.  The idea of going to invitation only sounds good to me.   The list of people who should not come on the internet and do illegal things is very large and these same poor souls draw unneeded attention when they inevitably fuck up.  The only press you'll see about SR related arrests are about those who are either too young to know better or are too stupid in the first place.  I say keep 'em out and leave this place to those who know how to consume and deal drugs (and other 'stuff') properly.

The more users, the safer it is for us, the smarter ones.  It's a free market.  When people say this it sounds like they are buying high priced drugs on SR and selling them locally at even higher prices and don't want to lose their customers to SR.

I always got the feeling that this is exactly what most bulk orders are accomplishing. 

For example, for some of the strains/THC content grass (dank! IRL)  here, where it's a rare find on the East Coast, it's easy to sell a g of that for about $25-30. 
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 16, 2013, 12:57 am
I say make it even harder to get in.  The idea of going to invitation only sounds good to me.   The list of people who should not come on the internet and do illegal things is very large and these same poor souls draw unneeded attention when they inevitably fuck up.  The only press you'll see about SR related arrests are about those who are either too young to know better or are too stupid in the first place.  I say keep 'em out and leave this place to those who know how to consume and deal drugs (and other 'stuff') properly.

The more users, the safer it is for us, the smarter ones.  It's a free market.  When people say this it sounds like they are buying high priced drugs on SR and selling them locally at even higher prices and don't want to lose their customers to SR.

I always got the feeling that this is exactly what most bulk orders are accomplishing. 

For example, for some of the strains/THC content grass (dank! IRL)  here, where it's a rare find on the East Coast, it's easy to sell a g of that for about $25-30.

Insane prices.  There are growers everywhere and you just have to be well networked.  I would never pay something like that.  I wont pay more than $250/oz, $2,000/lb or $2,400/lb (from a professional breeder who invented the world known strain that I'm buying) for top shelf indoor.  Someone else mentioned good weed going for that in his area.  Fucking crazy!  I don't even know anyone in real life who would pay that and I never have known any.  I never met anyone who payed more than $20/g for top shelf.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Squirrel on May 16, 2013, 01:01 am
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The more users, the safer it is for us, the smarter ones.

I respectfully disagree.  Negative attention is never good for a business.  And when you start getting 14 year olds arrested and squealing about where they got their drugs, it shines a bad light on things.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 16, 2013, 02:16 am
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The more users, the safer it is for us, the smarter ones.

I respectfully disagree.  Negative attention is never good for a business.  And when you start getting 14 year olds arrested and squealing about where they got their drugs, it shines a bad light on things.

It's a fact though.  The more users, the safer it is for us.  That means more people on tor and more people on sr and that makes it harder to find users.  Also hanging fruit keeps LE busy.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: wraithe on May 16, 2013, 03:39 am
I was at the strip club last night and a stripper said her friends in college get molly from the internet.  they order 4 or 5 things from "like france" and mix them together and make molly. lol.

I think the majority of people that SUCCESSFULLY purchase from her are in the top 1% of intellect in their circle of friends lol.  I know I am the smartest in the room
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 16, 2013, 05:16 am
I was at the strip club last night and a stripper said her friends in college get molly from the internet.  they order 4 or 5 things from "like france" and mix them together and make molly. lol.

I think the majority of people that SUCCESSFULLY purchase from her are in the top 1% of intellect in their circle of friends lol.  I know I am the smartest in the room
I think one of the worst parts about Silk Road is the amount of people who discover Silk Road, order bulk drugs to their house and become a drug dealer with no prior knowledge on how to do it safely. They text everyone they know saying they're a dealer and they good good drugs, etc. All of a sudden they get caught and they have no idea why.

I have no problem with people selling drugs IRL, but they have to at least have a bit of knowledge and be able to protect themselves, instead of rushing into it.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 16, 2013, 05:33 am
I was at the strip club last night and a stripper said her friends in college get molly from the internet.  they order 4 or 5 things from "like france" and mix them together and make molly. lol.

I think the majority of people that SUCCESSFULLY purchase from her are in the top 1% of intellect in their circle of friends lol.  I know I am the smartest in the room
I think one of the worst parts about Silk Road is the amount of people who discover Silk Road, order bulk drugs to their house and become a drug dealer with no prior knowledge on how to do it safely. They text everyone they know saying they're a dealer and they good good drugs, etc. All of a sudden they get caught and they have no idea why.

I have no problem with people selling drugs IRL, but they have to at least have a bit of knowledge and be able to protect themselves, instead of rushing into it.

I agree but I also believe that if you're a dealer getting your drugs on SR then you aren't a good dealer to begin with lol.  I mean, the shit is expensive.  Dealing requires networking and connections.  I've never payed anything like any of the prices on here.  I use SR as a price reference so I know what prices to undercut when selling to my customers.  If you have the connections then you probably have been in the game long enough to know how to properly deal.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 16, 2013, 05:45 am
I was at the strip club last night and a stripper said her friends in college get molly from the internet.  they order 4 or 5 things from "like france" and mix them together and make molly. lol.

I think the majority of people that SUCCESSFULLY purchase from her are in the top 1% of intellect in their circle of friends lol.  I know I am the smartest in the room
I think one of the worst parts about Silk Road is the amount of people who discover Silk Road, order bulk drugs to their house and become a drug dealer with no prior knowledge on how to do it safely. They text everyone they know saying they're a dealer and they good good drugs, etc. All of a sudden they get caught and they have no idea why.

I have no problem with people selling drugs IRL, but they have to at least have a bit of knowledge and be able to protect themselves, instead of rushing into it.

I agree but I also believe that if you're a dealer getting your drugs on SR then you aren't a good dealer to begin with lol.  I mean, the shit is expensive.  Dealing requires networking and connections.  I've never payed anything like any of the prices on here.  I use SR as a price reference so I know what prices to undercut when selling to my customers.  If you have the connections then you probably have been in the game long enough to know how to properly deal.
I agree with you. You need to have IRL connections and knowledge. Not just jump on the internet and get drugs mailed to your door.
With that said, there is nowhere in Australia where you can get MDMA for the prices that you can get them from European vendors. Even 1kg MDMA in Australia is $60,000 minimum. 1kg MDMA off SR is about $20,000. It might not get through, but if you know what you're doing there is money to be made. Street price for MDMA =s $250 / gram here. So you could make $200,000 off 1kg, by reselling it in 1 gram increments. A lot of people are aware of this, but don't seem to realise there is significant risk in doing so and they take very little precaution.

One Australian man was arrested when they found over 60 grams of seized coke & MDMA from Europe getting sent to his own house. He had a vendor account and he ended up in jail.
If he had of had a proper plan and not rushed into it, he would still be a vendor here.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: trc on May 16, 2013, 05:50 am
About 10% of the customers I deal with are either complete idiots or liars. Also 50% of people I know IRL that has mentioned using silkroad are as dumb as can be and usually bitch about not being able to use it and work minimum wage jobs if they even have jobs.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: zetterberg99 on May 16, 2013, 06:03 am
As harsh as it sounds, I agree that more users is better for the buyers as those who rush into it without taking safety precautions will be caught more easily by LE.  Think of cheetahs going after a herd of antelope; they'll target the weakest ones.

Definitely worse for vendors as LE will get intel on packaging, maybe online data, and if enough people got busted eventually someone is gonna snitch.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: morganeverett on May 16, 2013, 06:58 am
As harsh as it sounds, I agree that more users is better for the buyers as those who rush into it without taking safety precautions will be caught more easily by LE.  Think of cheetahs going after a herd of antelope; they'll target the weakest ones.

Definitely worse for vendors as LE will get intel on packaging, maybe online data, and if enough people got busted eventually someone is gonna snitch.

What's silk road? You buy stuff from China / Middle East? Didn't know the trade route through the desert was still active :-D

On a more serious note: Isn't that the point of tor? Almost perfect anonymity (provided you do take necessary safety precautions)
Sometimes one has to let nature run it's course. People complain about SR being bloated. It's going to be slightly more "exclusive" after the cull.

Side note: watching wildlife documentaries on acid is awesome. I probably would have never learnt to appreciate nature or art otherwise. Thanks SR!
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: WatLanBoon on May 16, 2013, 07:52 am
most people are indeed lazy, stupid and dishonest.

most often i let them get on with it, if i am in the mood to enlighten i do so very selectively as it can often lead to jealousy or anger.

Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: BlackIris on May 16, 2013, 08:10 am
Why do they all have this consensus? Are they just stupid? Do they simply not research? Obviously I have no interest in bringing this up to them as I don't want them to use SR for my own personal reasons, but where do they get these ideas from?

My opinion is that your friends never really tried by themselves. Many people like to talk of what they hear around (rumors) as if they are things they know from first experience. Your friends probably never tried themselves even entering the SR and they go by the rumors (that are around in many forums) that the place is a scam etc.

But in a certain sense it's better this way. IMO you don't really want the usual person with his/her IQ of an amoeba wandering here too much.

EDIT: I want to explain the last sentence better because it could be understood in a different way than I meant it. I'm absolutely in agreement with the SR being open to all, this is a staple of the place and how it must be; however it is also true that there are some steps you have to overcome (as acquiring BTC, be sure to browse anonymously and without leaving traces in your PC, beware of scams etc.) that act as a sort of filter for certain people that IMO are better they are not here to begin with. The "difficulty" you have to overcome at the very beginning act as a sort of deterrent for lazy and imbeciles (sort of like the typical drug fiend you see around and you don't want as a client if you are a vendor; it is more an hassle than anything else) and people that could talk immediately just to cover their silly asses.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: WatLanBoon on May 16, 2013, 08:31 am
Some people do indeed repeat crap they have been 'taught' as though they've experienced it themselves.

how do we deal with the amoeba who make it this far but prefer to maintain their retarded notions and share them with random strangers?

IRL we could get murdered for even discussing some matters with some of these people...
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Wepromisetwenty on May 16, 2013, 09:49 am
Oh, and +1... Interesting topic for sure. Wonder how many other folks have had similar experiences.

On a side note - I sometimes find myself wondering if theres anyone on this forum that I actually know in a real life capacity, since i've kept so quiet about my usage. Might seem crazy, but its a small world, isnt it.

Ill admit that I got an order for shrooms on SR and the person ordering it was someone I used to sell to locally. Then he stops by 3 days after he finalized to show me the great shrooms he got. Would not say where (I don't do any local dealing any more) just that he has a new source and if I wanted I could buy some from him.

It was all I could do to simply say "You know I am out of that stuff, I really dont need any" and not say "You idiot, you bought those from me"

I tell no one about SR or that I am a vendor.

SR is getting very popular, almost everyone I used to sell to or buy from seems to know about and order stuff from SR.

Haha, thats a kick ass story! +1
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Sensei on May 16, 2013, 02:22 pm
Well I don't have any friends and most of the people that I know doesn't really use drugs except maybe smoking a little weed and drinking alcohol. Their eyes would bulge if I told anyone I knew a place like this existed but then it really wouldn't even matter, it wouldn't spark any interest because as I said most of the people that I know really doesn't even use drugs to even care about SR.

Nevertheless I do believe it takes a special individual to successfully use this service and keep it to themselves. Most people these days just can't seem to keep their mouths shut for shit, social networking websites has made this even more of a problem. I've seen on so many different websites on clearnet (even one time not even intentionally looking) people talking about SR but I just refrain from looking too much to avoid headaches. Although I don't consider myself to be a genius by any means fact is, the idiots will be idiots and there's nothing we can do about it.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: ThisUsernameIsTaken on May 16, 2013, 02:36 pm
Someone asked me casually if I had a supply lately, because they knew I'm introverted and don't get out much. I told them I do, and let slip it was THC Lollipops. Oh man, they flipped out and want some and asked me to get them. I told them I'd be happy to burn them Tails on a USB, possibly sell them bitcoins (because it's getting tougher to get them anonymously) so they could do it all themselves. They weren't even ready for that, as they are not only halfway computer illiterate, but it really is overwhelming the steps one goes through to get to this point.

I think then that's where I realized why Silk Road gets that bad rap - you have to be in the know and knowledgeable to an extent to get things done, whereas some people are just happy doing things in person or with those they already know.

I'm still mixed on how I'm going to proceed with them, because I don't need to further complicate the paranoia if what I'm already doing.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: zetterberg99 on May 16, 2013, 07:54 pm
Someone asked me casually if I had a supply lately, because they knew I'm introverted and don't get out much. I told them I do, and let slip it was THC Lollipops. Oh man, they flipped out and want some and asked me to get them. I told them I'd be happy to burn them Tails on a USB, possibly sell them bitcoins (because it's getting tougher to get them anonymously) so they could do it all themselves. They weren't even ready for that, as they are not only halfway computer illiterate, but it really is overwhelming the steps one goes through to get to this point.


Beyond telling this friend how to access tor and the SR forums (for research) I believe you would be doing them a disservice to make entering the SR trade that easy for them.  Taking the time to reserch all the proper security measures is essential IMO to understanding what is required to buy safely.  If you make it too simple they will be too comfortable and will become a risk to themselves and to you!
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Turkey for Breakfast on May 16, 2013, 08:37 pm
I was at the strip club last night and a stripper said her friends in college get molly from the internet.  they order 4 or 5 things from "like france" and mix them together and make molly. lol.

I think the majority of people that SUCCESSFULLY purchase from her are in the top 1% of intellect in their circle of friends lol.  I know I am the smartest in the room

Oh Wraithe, settle down. But, on the other hand, I feel exactly the same way, all the time.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: C20H25N3O on May 16, 2013, 08:53 pm
One thing is clear:  Silk Road is not for everybody!
 Some guys  became nervous even when they order pizza
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: IamMulva on May 16, 2013, 10:15 pm
im a firm believer

first rule of SR is
You dont talk about SR

second rule is
you dont talk about SR

ive told no one and plan to keep it that way

like anything else the less people know the safer we all are.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: zerostate976 on May 16, 2013, 10:40 pm
I hope in the end I don't end up with what George Jung said at the end of blow, " But I force a smile, knowing that my ambition far exceeded my talent. There are no more white horses or pretty ladies at my door."

All of my friends love good quality hard to find treats, but none have the ambition to learn about bitcoins encryption and everything involved with procuring the treats. Even in highschool they would not get a fake ID off Shadowcrew when I did, then when I had it they always wanted alcohol.  I think it is good that some people are afraid of the risks, even though I truly believe face to face is far riskier. 
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: danconia on May 17, 2013, 12:08 am
As someone who re-sells I try not to tell many people about SR.  I don't want my clients knowing how much I buy my MDMA for (because I don't want them knowing my profit margin) and I certainly don't want them ordering for themselves because then I lose clients (and they can potentially become competition).
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Turkey for Breakfast on May 17, 2013, 12:19 am
I hope in the end I don't end up with what George Jung said at the end of blow, " But I force a smile, knowing that my ambition far exceeded my talent. There are no more white horses or pretty ladies at my door."

zerostate976, Don't allow this to happen and it won't. Know your limits and live within them. Be careful. Be sensible. If you have enough money to retire, do it. Why continue when you are buying houses just to keep boxes of money in? Surely some of that was played up for the film, but the point is that Mr. Jung could have washed his hands of his career long before his life fell apart. Don't follow his example, learn from it. You will do just fine. Just like the title of this thread, "Am I just smart or..." Be smart.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 17, 2013, 02:00 am
I hope in the end I don't end up with what George Jung said at the end of blow, " But I force a smile, knowing that my ambition far exceeded my talent. There are no more white horses or pretty ladies at my door."

zerostate976, Don't allow this to happen and it won't. Know your limits and live within them. Be careful. Be sensible. If you have enough money to retire, do it. Why continue when you are buying houses just to keep boxes of money in? Surely some of that was played up for the film, but the point is that Mr. Jung could have washed his hands of his career long before his life fell apart. Don't follow his example, learn from it. You will do just fine. Just like the title of this thread, "Am I just smart or..." Be smart.
I agree. You see some people get busted and they have tens of millions in cash already and for some reason they keep on going with it. Why not just accept you've done well out of it and move on? If I was importing cocaine I wouldn't do it for more than 1 year because I'd get enough money in t hat 1 year to last a lifetime.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Turkey for Breakfast on May 17, 2013, 02:14 am
I agree. You see some people get busted and they have tens of millions in cash already and for some reason they keep on going with it. Why not just accept you've done well out of it and move on? If I was importing cocaine I wouldn't do it for more than 1 year because I'd get enough money in t hat 1 year to last a lifetime.

But even still right there Dingo, that would be a poor choice of goalposts. Why 1 year? Say you had earned enough to last past your potential to live within 6 months? Why spend the next 6 months living with unnecessary risk?? Set the goalpost in the most sensible area, base it on a fixed number allowing for emergencies and inflation. Figure out what you reasonably need to survive until you are 80 give or take 5 years. Anything above that and you are just gambling for no reason.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 17, 2013, 02:29 am
I agree. You see some people get busted and they have tens of millions in cash already and for some reason they keep on going with it. Why not just accept you've done well out of it and move on? If I was importing cocaine I wouldn't do it for more than 1 year because I'd get enough money in t hat 1 year to last a lifetime.

But even still right there Dingo, that would be a poor choice of goalposts. Why 1 year? Say you had earned enough to last past your potential to live within 6 months? Why spend the next 6 months living with unnecessary risk?? Set the goalpost in the most sensible area, base it on a fixed number allowing for emergencies and inflation. Figure out what you reasonably need to survive until you are 80 give or take 5 years. Anything above that and you are just gambling for no reason.
I said no more than 1 year. if I did it for 6 months and made enough money, then I'd stop. I just don't see the point in people doing it for 20 years and they already have way more money than they'll ever need but they keep doing it anyway. I'd make the quick cash and then disappear and go back to doing something less risky.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: trainsTrainsTRAINS on May 17, 2013, 04:25 am
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I'm still mixed on how I'm going to proceed with them, because I don't need to further complicate the paranoia if what I'm already doing.

Man I hear ya...thank you science for benzos  :o
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: morganeverett on May 17, 2013, 09:45 am
What you do in the onion stays in the onion. Try to take it outside and tears will be shed.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: trainsTrainsTRAINS on May 17, 2013, 11:52 am
Exactly how i feel about it.  The one other person close to me that knows my SR presence got to bragging one night and received a major coal-raking and felt positively shitty they let their gums flap so loose for the next several days, etc.  The less exposure the better.  If you have the skills to learn and figure it out on your own, go for it.  If you don't have a clue good luck to ya and hopefully LE picks the low hanging fruit. 8)
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: mercedesbenz on May 17, 2013, 03:33 pm
Funny thought  :)
Actually the few friends I talked about this site and explained how it works think i'm the stupid one using it  ;D
I stick with the fight club rules since then
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: AgentLee on May 17, 2013, 04:46 pm
Well this thread has been uncommonly innaresting.

Do people really order drugs in bulk from the Road and immediately proceed to act like the fucking Don? I am surprised no one has been killed, as if you were to do that in most cities in Britain (and I expect everywhere else for that matter) you can expect to have a very short if exciting life in the business.

That is one of the stupidest things I have heard today. If anyone has any links to stories about this kind of thing I'd be keen to see them. Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 17, 2013, 05:31 pm
Well this thread has been uncommonly innaresting.

Do people really order drugs in bulk from the Road and immediately proceed to act like the fucking Don? I am surprised no one has been killed, as if you were to do that in most cities in Britain (and I expect everywhere else for that matter) you can expect to have a very short if exciting life in the business.

That is one of the stupidest things I have heard today. If anyone has any links to stories about this kind of thing I'd be keen to see them. Thanks everyone.
This happened in Australia. The guy was an idiot though.
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-02/01/silk-road-crackdown
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Dingo Ate My Drugs on May 18, 2013, 12:21 am
Well this thread has been uncommonly innaresting.

Do people really order drugs in bulk from the Road and immediately proceed to act like the fucking Don? I am surprised no one has been killed, as if you were to do that in most cities in Britain (and I expect everywhere else for that matter) you can expect to have a very short if exciting life in the business.

That is one of the stupidest things I have heard today. If anyone has any links to stories about this kind of thing I'd be keen to see them. Thanks everyone.
This happened in Australia. The guy was an idiot though.
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-02/01/silk-road-crackdown
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: razerblade on May 19, 2013, 03:52 am
im a firm believer

first rule of SR is
You dont talk about SR

second rule is
you dont talk about SR

ive told no one and plan to keep it that way

like anything else the less people know the safer we all are.

Important for real life. Nobody knows, nobody talks - esp to cops when in trouble.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Oompaloompa on May 19, 2013, 11:37 am
Interesting thread,
Never talked to anyone IRL about SR and don't plan on starting. Noone's ever mentioned it to me either so ether they're in the dark or have the same plan as me.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: jorgecassio on May 20, 2013, 01:11 am
With the recent explosion of the RC market, you really don't know for sure what you're getting these days. Not to hate on RC's or SR in particular since it's impossible to get logistics on who's selling what, hell I popped my drug "cherry" on 4MMC, but I've seen with my own eyes dealers IRL pass off Kilos of Methylone as Molly, grams of 4MMC as cocaine/speed, etc. With the anonymity that online markets provide, the opportunity to lowball and scam people with RC's, fillers, etc. is always there and easy to take advantage of. I just saw a few days ago with some dude selling fake Diazepam on here, he's still in business as we speak. Personally, I keep a kit on-hand to test everything before I take it or share it with friends. I think that's the best anyone can do these days, if you have a heart.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: hellwillbetoasty on May 20, 2013, 04:38 am
I was at the strip club last night and a stripper said her friends in college get molly from the internet.  they order 4 or 5 things from "like france" and mix them together and make molly. lol.

I think the majority of people that SUCCESSFULLY purchase from her are in the top 1% of intellect in their circle of friends lol.  I know I am the smartest in the room
I think one of the worst parts about Silk Road is the amount of people who discover Silk Road, order bulk drugs to their house and become a drug dealer with no prior knowledge on how to do it safely. They text everyone they know saying they're a dealer and they good good drugs, etc. All of a sudden they get caught and they have no idea why.

I have no problem with people selling drugs IRL, but they have to at least have a bit of knowledge and be able to protect themselves, instead of rushing into it.

I agree but I also believe that if you're a dealer getting your drugs on SR then you aren't a good dealer to begin with lol.  I mean, the shit is expensive.  Dealing requires networking and connections.  I've never payed anything like any of the prices on here.  I use SR as a price reference so I know what prices to undercut when selling to my customers.  If you have the connections then you probably have been in the game long enough to know how to properly deal.

I don't know about you, but I would be fairly hard pressed to find an amount like 10 g's for under $200 of the quality I got from dutchaanbod. and then more so on bigger orders obviously, I mean IRL the prices even out between the SR and IRL as you buy bigger and bigger quantities on both, but from what I have seen the one thing that is consistently cheaper on the SR is molly. And the quality is on average better than you find IRL as long as you know who the fuck to order from which isn't hard.

for most other drugs though I agree...especially weed, for the most part that shit's fuckin marked up
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on May 20, 2013, 01:31 pm
I was at the strip club last night and a stripper said her friends in college get molly from the internet.  they order 4 or 5 things from "like france" and mix them together and make molly. lol.

I think the majority of people that SUCCESSFULLY purchase from her are in the top 1% of intellect in their circle of friends lol.  I know I am the smartest in the room
I think one of the worst parts about Silk Road is the amount of people who discover Silk Road, order bulk drugs to their house and become a drug dealer with no prior knowledge on how to do it safely. They text everyone they know saying they're a dealer and they good good drugs, etc. All of a sudden they get caught and they have no idea why.

I have no problem with people selling drugs IRL, but they have to at least have a bit of knowledge and be able to protect themselves, instead of rushing into it.

I agree but I also believe that if you're a dealer getting your drugs on SR then you aren't a good dealer to begin with lol.  I mean, the shit is expensive.  Dealing requires networking and connections.  I've never payed anything like any of the prices on here.  I use SR as a price reference so I know what prices to undercut when selling to my customers.  If you have the connections then you probably have been in the game long enough to know how to properly deal.

I don't know about you, but I would be fairly hard pressed to find an amount like 10 g's for under $200 of the quality I got from dutchaanbod. and then more so on bigger orders obviously, I mean IRL the prices even out between the SR and IRL as you buy bigger and bigger quantities on both, but from what I have seen the one thing that is consistently cheaper on the SR is molly. And the quality is on average better than you find IRL as long as you know who the fuck to order from which isn't hard.

for most other drugs though I agree...especially weed, for the most part that shit's fuckin marked up

I was paying less than half that in California for years.  Now you know about me. ;)  All you have to do is get cliqued up with the Asians in the bay.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: IamMulva on May 20, 2013, 04:53 pm
I agree. You see some people get busted and they have tens of millions in cash already and for some reason they keep on going with it. Why not just accept you've done well out of it and move on? If I was importing cocaine I wouldn't do it for more than 1 year because I'd get enough money in t hat 1 year to last a lifetime.

But even still right there Dingo, that would be a poor choice of goalposts. Why 1 year? Say you had earned enough to last past your potential to live within 6 months? Why spend the next 6 months living with unnecessary risk?? Set the goalpost in the most sensible area, base it on a fixed number allowing for emergencies and inflation. Figure out what you reasonably need to survive until you are 80 give or take 5 years. Anything above that and you are just gambling for no reason.
I said no more than 1 year. if I did it for 6 months and made enough money, then I'd stop. I just don't see the point in people doing it for 20 years and they already have way more money than they'll ever need but they keep doing it anyway. I'd make the quick cash and then disappear and go back to doing something less risky.

I was having this discussion with a friend yesterday. my opinion is, get out when you can comfortably afford to or when the risk outweighs any real or perceived benefits, monetary or other. but the other side to that is, there are people who actually enjoy the trade, thats me. call me what you will but the monetary portion is secondary to the social aspect of trading with friends. I dont think Im alone on this thought either. its a good feeling to supply the best of the best (in terms of quality) to friends and have them enjoy the product or pass it down the line and make some coin. I make a decent profit doing it, so i can get more and different types of products to share.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: trainsTrainsTRAINS on May 23, 2013, 09:54 am
Interesting concept, you don't have to become "the don" but you can socially trade with friends and enjoy a little profit on the plus side!
 8) Because the stuff's good of course  8)
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: oldtoby on May 24, 2013, 01:11 am
Very few people know I use RC's at all, and of those trusted persons I would still *never* reveal that I use SR. Once somebody knows you use the mail, it's *way* too easy to get burned. I mean, my friends are my friends, but I don't care who you are, I don't hand you a loaded gun and close my eyes. Better they think I have (unusually) good street sources, and like any good lie, I have a well-practiced reaction if the subject of SR ever comes up.

Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: trainsTrainsTRAINS on May 24, 2013, 04:02 am
What's the well practiced reaction?
I might need it one of these days soon... :-\
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Mr. Fluffles Schrodinger on May 24, 2013, 06:01 am
I hope in the end I don't end up with what George Jung said at the end of blow, " But I force a smile, knowing that my ambition far exceeded my talent. There are no more white horses or pretty ladies at my door."

zerostate976, Don't allow this to happen and it won't. Know your limits and live within them. Be careful. Be sensible. If you have enough money to retire, do it. Why continue when you are buying houses just to keep boxes of money in? Surely some of that was played up for the film, but the point is that Mr. Jung could have washed his hands of his career long before his life fell apart. Don't follow his example, learn from it. You will do just fine. Just like the title of this thread, "Am I just smart or..." Be smart.
I agree. You see some people get busted and they have tens of millions in cash already and for some reason they keep on going with it. Why not just accept you've done well out of it and move on? If I was importing cocaine I wouldn't do it for more than 1 year because I'd get enough money in t hat 1 year to last a lifetime.

Yep. 
Also subbing.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: QuarterBaked on May 24, 2013, 02:47 pm
subbing for interesting topic. would like to start dealing amongst my friends as well, so this is quite relevant to my interests.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: heatcheck on May 24, 2013, 05:30 pm
If SR was brought up to me by someone, I wouldn't pretend like I had never heard of it. I would most likely claim to have a little knowledge and carry on a conversation, probably shift it towards internet privacy or something. I'm not going to come out and say that I have 16+ transactions and 1700 dollars spent.

That would probably freak some people out.

I can't say I've really dealt anything off of here, but I have ordered some more than I need of things in order to sell them to friends pretty much at cost. This way I can have people to trip with. Drugs are more fun with friends.

Nobody seems to question where I get all these things. A couple of my friends do know where it comes from. But they're not involved in my shipments or drop locations, so there isn't really much of a chance that they get pressured by police and roll on me. Especially the friends I have that also use SR.



I've thought that it would be fun to walk around with a shirt that had the SR logo on it. Just the camel, not the text. Then see if anybody seems to recognize it. You can share a moment of eye contact with that person that says a whole lot.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: oldtoby on May 24, 2013, 11:27 pm
What the reaction is doesn't really matter (if believable). Just as long as it's practiced.

Same thing if cops show up at your door. If you've never thought about what you'd say, what tone you'd take, the expression you'd wear, they're gonna see right through you. Innocent reactions come naturally. Artificially innocent reactions take practice. Unless you're a natural, I suppose.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: morganeverett on May 27, 2013, 09:59 am
What the reaction is doesn't really matter (if believable). Just as long as it's practiced.

Same thing if cops show up at your door. If you've never thought about what you'd say, what tone you'd take, the expression you'd wear, they're gonna see right through you. Innocent reactions come naturally. Artificially innocent reactions take practice. Unless you're a natural, I suppose.

Yup. Practice enough that it becomes second nature, then practice some more. You'll actually begin to believe your own BS after a while, even though you know it's not true. The human mind is a funny thing.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Turkey for Breakfast on May 27, 2013, 12:47 pm
What the reaction is doesn't really matter (if believable). Just as long as it's practiced.

Same thing if cops show up at your door. If you've never thought about what you'd say, what tone you'd take, the expression you'd wear, they're gonna see right through you. Innocent reactions come naturally. Artificially innocent reactions take practice. Unless you're a natural, I suppose.

I have this line memorized and practiced.

"I never consent to any searches. Many men greater than myself fought and died for the right of Americans to be secure in their person and property and it seems very disrespectful to their memory to waive that right simply because you ask me to."
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: ablsnat on May 27, 2013, 02:49 pm
That's funny!

I know there are people on here that used to know me. ;)  But they'll never know it's me and I don't buy anything on SR except maybe some occasional weed because I quit growing and don't want several pounds. :)

I've been here almost 2 years now, and no one I know knows about this place or that I use it. I have gotten things for friends off here, but they have no idea about SR, and to be honest I don't thnk they would even understand it, if I told them.

For real!  I have told one person about it, but I don't think they had the brain power to comprehend what I was telling them.  I wish I hadn't said anything, but too late now.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: VersacePandaEgg on May 28, 2013, 05:08 am
Just showed a couple of close friends the road, wonder if I should have. I'm pretty sure they were aware of it, and that's where their dealer gets his product from. But they were shocked when I showed them, wondering how I was able to be on there, etc.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: morganeverett on May 28, 2013, 05:17 am
Just showed a couple of close friends the road, wonder if I should have. I'm pretty sure they were aware of it, and that's where their dealer gets his product from. But they were shocked when I showed them, wondering how I was able to be on there, etc.

If they were aware then you didn't have to show them....
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: VersacePandaEgg on May 28, 2013, 05:25 am
Just showed a couple of close friends the road, wonder if I should have. I'm pretty sure they were aware of it, and that's where their dealer gets his product from. But they were shocked when I showed them, wondering how I was able to be on there, etc.

If they were aware then you didn't have to show them....

I didn't have to show them, but they were aware that their buddy is getting it shipped to him.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: danconia on May 28, 2013, 06:16 am
I was having this discussion with a friend yesterday. my opinion is, get out when you can comfortably afford to or when the risk outweighs any real or perceived benefits, monetary or other. but the other side to that is, there are people who actually enjoy the trade, thats me. call me what you will but the monetary portion is secondary to the social aspect of trading with friends. I dont think Im alone on this thought either. its a good feeling to supply the best of the best (in terms of quality) to friends and have them enjoy the product or pass it down the line and make some coin. I make a decent profit doing it, so i can get more and different types of products to share.

When I decide to take a step back I will most likely still be somewhat active in the "drug trade" (for lack of a better term) but in a safer and more relaxed role.  At that point I'll probably no longer sell to anyone outside my very close group of friends but might act as more of a "broker" or whatever who helps other dealers find good suppliers (and will take a small cut as a fee).  I'd also probably have it so that the drugs never come into my mailbox or see the inside of my car or apartment.  Essentially I'd cut out all major risks.

Another good reason to not keep selling for too long is that if you ever use it as a primary source of income for too long then your other professional skills might get a bit rusty (plus unemployment for a year or more looks bad on a resume, I believe).

We can reduce and minimize risk but that risk is still there.  The stakes are high.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: Mister7102 on June 05, 2013, 05:09 pm
I believe that the people that I know are too naive to believe that it is possible to do what we do!!  Personally I've used the whole system minus SR for almost 20 years!  Amazingly genius DPR is for putting all of the stones in one line though!  Sometimes it feels to me as if the walls are closing in on our not so secret secret!  I hope that I am wrong and we all have long and prosperous lives in the future.  I like the recent post by DPR about not getting too confident; this is the single mistake that I believe will turn into someones demise.  I hope I'm not coming off as Debby Downer to anyone, that was not my intention
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: FollowIcculus on June 05, 2013, 05:45 pm
Just showed a couple of close friends the road, wonder if I should have. I'm pretty sure they were aware of it, and that's where their dealer gets his product from. But they were shocked when I showed them, wondering how I was able to be on there, etc.

If they were aware then you didn't have to show them....

I didn't have to show them, but they were aware that their buddy is getting it shipped to him.
Good move.  Now when your "friends" get pinched they can I saw get it from so and so who buys it on the Silk Road and sends it to his house.  The fewer people who know, the better.  I won't tell even my closest friends my source; whether its SR or not.  Haven't you ever seen "Blow?"
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: VersacePandaEgg on June 05, 2013, 05:57 pm
Just showed a couple of close friends the road, wonder if I should have. I'm pretty sure they were aware of it, and that's where their dealer gets his product from. But they were shocked when I showed them, wondering how I was able to be on there, etc.

If they were aware then you didn't have to show them....

I didn't have to show them, but they were aware that their buddy is getting it shipped to him.
Good move.  Now when your "friends" get pinched they can I saw get it from so and so who buys it on the Silk Road and sends it to his house.  The fewer people who know, the better.  I won't tell even my closest friends my source; whether its SR or not.  Haven't you ever seen "Blow?"

If my friends got pinched nothing would happen to me seeing as I don't provide for them and have bought nothing off the road. I agree. Yes I've seen Blow, great movie.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: FollowIcculus on June 05, 2013, 07:55 pm
Just showed a couple of close friends the road, wonder if I should have. I'm pretty sure they were aware of it, and that's where their dealer gets his product from. But they were shocked when I showed them, wondering how I was able to be on there, etc.

If they were aware then you didn't have to show them....

I didn't have to show them, but they were aware that their buddy is getting it shipped to him.
Good move.  Now when your "friends" get pinched they can I saw get it from so and so who buys it on the Silk Road and sends it to his house.  The fewer people who know, the better.  I won't tell even my closest friends my source; whether its SR or not.  Haven't you ever seen "Blow?"

If my friends got pinched nothing would happen to me seeing as I don't provide for them and have bought nothing off the road. I agree. Yes I've seen Blow, great movie.
Fair enough. +1.  Just make sure you know who your friends are because a guy who got popped who doesn't normally buy from you might still offer up some "information" if they think it might get them out of trouble, especially if you order distribution amounts.  Best case scenario: You've gotta find a clean address to ship to.   Worst case: Prison
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: VersacePandaEgg on June 05, 2013, 08:01 pm
Just showed a couple of close friends the road, wonder if I should have. I'm pretty sure they were aware of it, and that's where their dealer gets his product from. But they were shocked when I showed them, wondering how I was able to be on there, etc.

If they were aware then you didn't have to show them....

I didn't have to show them, but they were aware that their buddy is getting it shipped to him.
Good move.  Now when your "friends" get pinched they can I saw get it from so and so who buys it on the Silk Road and sends it to his house.  The fewer people who know, the better.  I won't tell even my closest friends my source; whether its SR or not.  Haven't you ever seen "Blow?"

If my friends got pinched nothing would happen to me seeing as I don't provide for them and have bought nothing off the road. I agree. Yes I've seen Blow, great movie.
Fair enough. +1.  Just make sure you know who your friends are because a guy who got popped who doesn't normally buy from you might still offer up some "information" if they think it might get them out of trouble, especially if you order distribution amounts.  Best case scenario: You've gotta find a clean address to ship to.   Worst case: Prison

Yeah you're right, some people will offer up anything they can think of if it means lessening whatever they may be facing.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: enpiping on June 05, 2013, 08:10 pm
I have gotten things for friends off here, but they have no idea about SR, and to be honest I don't thnk they would even understand it, if I told them.
That's a good point. The breadth of my discussion with friends about it (other than the one who told me about the place and another very close friend) is that I get stuff from 'the Internet.'  95% of them wouldn't understand the details if I bothered telling them what the place is like, its purpose, and the protection involved in it.
That said, I don't mind if people pretty close (other people that like to use drugs recreationally) to me know I get some drugs in the mail every so often, as I do exchanges with out of town friends some times, too.
Title: Re: Am I just smart or are my friends just really stupid?
Post by: The-Truth on June 07, 2013, 01:11 am
I say subscribed to the ole school.. shut up if others figure it out fine as this is not eBay