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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: alainj on January 25, 2013, 01:17 am

Title: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: alainj on January 25, 2013, 01:17 am
This is a stupid rule, its killing vendors feedback on the forums (why do you care, I know), the only reason I spammed is to leave damn feedback for someone I bought from. If you need to write bullshit posts so you can thank a vendor by giving him positive feedback and informing the rest of the "community" about the vendors practices then whats the fucking point.

Meanwhile "BUY 10 BTC for $82.00" can post anywhere they fucking want. That's the god damned spam.

Fucking idiots.
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: alainj on January 25, 2013, 01:25 am
Also, I invite the person deleting all these posts to come have a meaningful conversation about the point of this, the reason we cant review vendors and why we must waste our time so we can get to the big boy board. After spending over a grand on the road Im treated like a little kid. Id like that explained as well.

Thank you. But you're probably too busy deleting posts people are forced to post.
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: beadvised on January 25, 2013, 01:34 am
it's a necessary evil. I don't like how it's being handled but I think there was a real issue with spam as well as illegitimate reviews and what not in the rumor-mill. As far as deleting posts that obvious attempts at getting over the 50 post barrier? I think the policy on this should be clear, one way or the other. If there was no moderation, I don't personally know if bots could accumulate 50 posts in here or not. I guess that's the question.
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: alainj on January 25, 2013, 01:39 am
it's a necessary evil. I don't like how it's being handled but I think there was a real issue with spam as well as illegitimate reviews and what not in the rumor-mill. As far as deleting posts that obvious attempts at getting over the 50 post barrier? I think the policy on this should be clear, one way or the other. If there was no moderation, I don't personally know if bots could accumulate 50 posts in here or not. I guess that's the question.

I keep seeing you say this, bots and spammers can get 50 posts in here in a matter of 20 minutes, I saw it happen with my own eyes, then they just flood the big boy forums. One of them started when I had 8 posts, by the time I had 11, they had 50 and were out doing their thing again.

All I want to do is post reviews of vendors, whats the fucking problem with that?
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: alainj on January 25, 2013, 01:43 am
Notice I still, until now, have not mentioned vendors. How much do vendors really post?

So, someone pays $500 for an account and wants to advertise or promote a special or their wares in general. Now they cant, they have to post in a restricted forum where people with OVER 50 posts cant post. That's fair right?
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: beadvised on January 25, 2013, 01:44 am
I haven't seen that happen, although I wasn't necessarily looking for it. That's a fuckin' sham if true.
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: NorCalKing on January 25, 2013, 01:49 am
Notice I still, until now, have not mentioned vendors. How much do vendors really post?

So, someone pays $500 for an account and wants to advertise or promote a special or their wares in general. Now they cant, they have to post in a restricted forum where people with OVER 50 posts cant post. That's fair right?

As a vendor,  I'm posting in here to prove that vendors can post!   :)

NCK
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: alainj on January 25, 2013, 01:53 am
Notice I still, until now, have not mentioned vendors. How much do vendors really post?

So, someone pays $500 for an account and wants to advertise or promote a special or their wares in general. Now they cant, they have to post in a restricted forum where people with OVER 50 posts cant post. That's fair right?

As a vendor,  I'm posting in here to prove that vendors can post!   :)

NCK

I may have been unclear, vendors with less tan 50 posts cannot post in the "product offers" forum, for ya know, offering products. I see how my post may have been misconstrued
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: Zich on January 25, 2013, 02:20 am
It's a pretty bad (and hopefully temporary) solution to a shitty problem.
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: mezzanine2323 on January 25, 2013, 02:31 am
This really sucks, but for those of us who have already been using the Road for a while, and only using the forums sparingly, this is a one-time problem. We'll get to 50 posts eventually even if all the spam is deleted and we have to do it legitimately. Once we do, the problem is solved for our large group who were here when the rule changed. We are able to post at that point. And from then on it will only be a problem for new users, to whom it will appear like it was always this way.

No offense, Alain, but I think it's a mistake for you to act as if you are entitled to post on a SR forum, or for that matter, to even use SR itself. DPR and his staff have gone out of their way to create something incredible here. They could've made it so you could only join if you were invited, but they didn't. They made it open. There have always been problems and there will always be problems. The system isn't perfect. But if the board is having a problem with spam, I trust the staff to know what they're doing when they raise the minimum post count in response. At this point I think it's safe to say that they should have done this sooner, maybe when the forum was first created, in anticipation of these issues, and maybe that way they wouldn't have to try to appease people who got used to the way it was.

This is a minor annoyance at best, and that's coming from a guy who only has 10 posts at the moment.
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: htown on January 25, 2013, 02:36 am
I almost said fuck it and was going to spam to 50. Glad I didn't cuz the mod or whoever is deleting these posts would owe me 2 hours of my life on this slow ass browser lol.
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: alainj on January 25, 2013, 02:41 am
Entitlement really has nothing to do with it, its the ineffectiveness of it, its hurting real users and not doing anything about the spammers. That's the point here, see my reply a couple posts up. Hey man, if it was invite only, then it would be a privilege to be part of SR and the forums (which it still is), but I guess having the ability to post (a week ago), then not, then having to go through and post 50 times (which would have taken me a year at the rate I was posting is not the way to fix spam. Just moderate the spammers. That is all.
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: mezzanine2323 on January 25, 2013, 02:48 am
I understand and I completely agree with your sentiment, however I'm glad we even have forum moderators at all and I'm just gonna suck it up and make my 50 posts. This is one of them. :)
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: brianm on January 25, 2013, 03:24 am
I understand and I completely agree with your sentiment, however I'm glad we even have forum moderators at all and I'm just gonna suck it up and make my 50 posts. This is one of them. :)

I thought I was done with this but no, back down to 37. Looks like another day of spamming just to answer a question to a post I made yesterday.
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: Asal88 on January 25, 2013, 04:29 pm
The problem is I used to be able to post anywhere (and I have been here for ages) now I'm limited to this section of the forum. I wish they could at least factor in for length of time you have been here for,
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: sleepyg on January 25, 2013, 10:15 pm
so sorry
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: herbalone on January 25, 2013, 10:52 pm
I'm new here so these rules are part of the SR package as far as I'm concerned, but I have found it useful going through 'non spam" threads and trying to pick up info along the way.
I can see how peeps might be pissed if they previously had write access to the other forums though
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: surripere on January 25, 2013, 11:14 pm
wow
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: alainj on January 25, 2013, 11:51 pm
wow
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: alainj on January 26, 2013, 02:38 am
aaaaaaaannnnnd for my 50th post, fuck this noise again. IM out... unless you take my posts away again. Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: mcballs on January 26, 2013, 03:20 am
Means to an end man
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: Busy Bee on January 26, 2013, 03:22 am
I haven't seen that happen, although I wasn't necessarily looking for it. That's a fuckin' sham if true.

You've seen it happen now! New vendor, but I can't get a vendor tag on the forums until 35 successful transactions. Meanwhile, it'll be harder for me to get my store off the ground because I can't post in the rumor mill, for example. So yeah, it's a bit of a sham if you ask me ;)

I'm making the best of it though - my store is up and my review thread will reside in the newbie forum for now!

I wish I could port over the hundreds of posts I have on my non-vendor forum account without all the privacy concerns...
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: mcballs on January 26, 2013, 03:29 am
The problem is I used to be able to post anywhere (and I have been here for ages) now I'm limited to this section of the forum. I wish they could at least factor in for length of time you have been here for,
Damn right. Also lurking time :P
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: chemicalcat on April 09, 2013, 02:12 am
bump
Title: Re: Fuck you for taking 32 of my posts so I end up back here.
Post by: Vegeta on April 09, 2013, 02:18 am
Whats the point of this limitation anyway? From what you're saying the bots end up getting there anyway. So how do you stop the actual problem so that we don't have to deal with this