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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: SimplisticStyle on January 30, 2013, 11:58 pm

Title: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: SimplisticStyle on January 30, 2013, 11:58 pm
I understand that sellers have a risk when shipping to new buyers. But how are we supposed to earn feedback when some sellers won't even sell to you because of your feedback? I placed a few orders for a few different types of gear. My first order I placed two orders with the same vendor and he canceled half because he wants to start off small with new buyers (which is totally understandable and I appreciate him/her selling to me at all and I can place a 2nd order once I finished my first) However another seller just flat out canceled on me without no explanation or anything (SupremeSmoke). I am in the process of finding another seller that will give me the chance to at least start off small to replace him. I hope to have my feedback looking great with multiple purchases very quickly. I can say though, if I find a premium product and a seller that is willing to deal with me to replace that order than I will stick with that seller and SupremeSmoke will have just lost a valuable repeat customer.

Anybody else having any trouble buying? Any tips on improving my stats or helping insure trust in me as a buyer?
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: shastafarian on January 31, 2013, 12:00 am
You could buy those stupid little cheap lottery things to up your # of completed transactions.
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: thebigjc on January 31, 2013, 12:14 am
You are more likely to have success buying small things.

Most newbies now must swallow the pill of having to buy porn or something, but the sellers can see you haven't spent much. It is a trust thing. A scammer is not likely to spend the time to build a reputation.

The other way around it is to find new vendors and you can both help each other out...
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: mrpotatohead77 on January 31, 2013, 12:34 am
I've noticed several weed dealers not requiring FE for their orders. Might be a good place to start if you like smoking.
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: SimplisticStyle on January 31, 2013, 12:44 am
Well, my first few orders that I have placed will bring me to 4 transactions and 500.00 spent. As long as these new vendors I have chosen don't cancel on me. I am only here to try and find premium quality over what I can get local. I can only hope I don't have to make a bunch of small purchases of stuff I don't even want just to earn some trust lol. I don't mind a FE however the vendor that canceled on me (SupremeSmoke) did not even give me that oppurtunity
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: EarlyCuylerTOR on January 31, 2013, 01:07 am
Haven't seen this problem, but then I'm only a weed man.
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: mrpotatohead77 on January 31, 2013, 01:50 am
Haven't seen this problem, but then I'm only a weed man.
I'm fine with FE as long as it's a vendor with stellar feedback or gets rave reviews in the forum. Heck my first order was from Joy (who was a star vendor in the avenger's lsd thread at the time) and I was required to FE. A little nervous but it made it here after like a month (got stuck in customs for a bit, I had tracking for my order and it was so annoying to see that it was still chilling in customs) but it made it to me eventually and was incredible.
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: EastCoastCollective on January 31, 2013, 01:55 am
new vendor here  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: Coexist on January 31, 2013, 02:03 am
I hope i don't run into this problem :(
<3
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: swedishmob on January 31, 2013, 02:47 am
I hope i don't run into this problem :(
<3
Same! I'd hate to be a scammer I just want to spread the love of sr to my local town
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: chaosmix on January 31, 2013, 03:01 am
i had a similar problem last week when my stats only had 3 purchases. a few hundred dollars worth of 25i. i treid to place a order for a o of shrooms and they cancelled on me saying they were fresh out and it wouldnt be til march till they had some. i made 2 more purchases and recieved items in same week so iwas up to 5. they messaged me back saying they had a o of shrooms for me they found. i was like whatever. i ordered 5 more items since then and 2 have arrived so im up to 7. i have no intention of scamming anybody. im just trying to make some money. anyways one of my other orders was from a newer vendor who only had like 12 transactions when i ordered,he had an intro sale selling shrooms for like $103 an oz. i bought 2 since he had great reviews from the previous 12 transactions on the items page and everybody agreed they were about 30grams in each oz. so now i got a great price on 25i and i will def be a repeat customer for the shroom guy. i mean if your a good vendor who was going to actually send it and you had a great track record then y would u be concerned about a guy with a few transactions under his belt attempting to rip u off for $160?now checking today the same shroom guy has 16 overwieght 5/5 trans.
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: LongKissGoodnight on January 31, 2013, 03:14 am
Easy boys  ;)

small steps... slowly  8) 8) 8)




* Longtime buyer - Newbie poster *  :-*
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: SimplisticStyle on January 31, 2013, 03:32 am
I did notice SupremeSmoke took his C ad's down. So maybe he was out of product? Well i have a few items in transit so hopefully these get here fast enough that I can get some good ratings under my belt and not have to worry about this for future orders. But I also agree, give the new guys a shot even if its starting off with something smaller. You never, they might become your number one buyer!
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: DomesticMDMAted on January 31, 2013, 03:39 am
It's not hard to build up a rep. Be sociable.
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: LongKissGoodnight on January 31, 2013, 03:43 am
Don't be annoying

Don't be demanding

Be respectful



* Longtime buyer - Newbie poster *  :-*
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: swedishmob on January 31, 2013, 03:50 am
*Edit meant to say labled as a scammer  :-[ not be a scammer lolz
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: TambourineMan on January 31, 2013, 03:57 am
spam
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: MadmanMax on January 31, 2013, 09:11 am
In any case DON'T FINALIZE EARLY ! There are a lot of seller that dont require to Finalize early Escrow system is the best security for both seller and buyer
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: BigCake on January 31, 2013, 09:21 am
You could buy those stupid little cheap lottery things to up your # of completed transactions.

This typically does not work and is a red flag to sellers.  They also look at your dollar spent history in relation to number of transactions.  There are plenty of fine vendors who allow personal quantity sales to new members that don't require FE.  Besides, you should try their product before you step up your orders just to find out for yourself.  And the way I see it, part of the SR way requires paying dues in a sort of way.  Before you know it you've been here a while, spent  some reasonable BTC, completed 5-10 transactions successfully, and are on your way to deserved respect.  People that want to rush into things like large drug purchases are sketchy in many folks eyes.  Soon enough the OP will be there.
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: Dovah457 on January 31, 2013, 04:06 pm
I have heard about the troubles that some buyers have at the start. I was actually looking at buying a decent size of LSD for my first transaction. However, it would likely have to be a FE. Does anyone think there would be an issue? He seems to be a legit vendor (Lucydrop) and his page doesn't say anything about restrictions for newbies.
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: deep987 on January 31, 2013, 04:36 pm
There are a lot of options.
1) finalize early - you'll want to make sure the vendor is very reputable and has a large number of transactions.
2) shop around - unless you want a product that doesn't have many vendor options, you should be able to find vendors who don't have restrictions.
3) buy silly stuff to get your stats up - I'd rather take the other options.
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: Jonesin on January 31, 2013, 07:59 pm
It's not too hard. Shop around.
Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: eurintrouble on January 31, 2013, 09:11 pm
I think I was relatively lucky with who I dealt with when I first joined, which was not actually that long ago (3+ months). I went straight in on the expensive stuff buying mostly cocaine and didn't even get asked to FE (probably because it was UK to UK). I got scammed once when I FE'd early to someone and then never received the product and he didn't reply to me, but that was after quite a few transactions rather than being new; just a stupid mistake. I don't know if I'm allowed to name the vendor on here but he's still selling and his feedback is 80. I've been told he's a 'selective' scammer.

Anyway keep at it, you have nothing to lose trying to buy as long as you don't FE and don't come across as a dick.

Title: Re: New buyers, hard to buy?
Post by: Moadnouse on January 31, 2013, 09:57 pm
Traded under full escrow for first purchase, supposedly because I asked the vendor through PM and they were happy that I took the time to message them. YMMV