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Discussion => Shipping => Topic started by: dipmyfry on March 23, 2012, 11:54 pm

Title: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: dipmyfry on March 23, 2012, 11:54 pm
Okay so i went and bought some priority stamps the 4.95 ones as it states on stamps and want to mail using the smalles available priority box, but thing is when i went to buy stamp the clerk at usps was like you cant ship using those boxes "the if it fits, it ship boxes" (the smallest ones/Small flat rate box) so i was like okay can i buy the stamp hes says yeah and gives me the new river george bridge 4.95 stamp.  and a 20cent stamp.

Then he goes on telling me how i can only ship in the large priority envelops (not boxes) ENVELOPES that state priority mail on them! I left confused because i have received packages in the same small priority boxes before with the same stamp and of course the extra 1.00 dollar stamp and 10, and 5 cent stamp to cover delivery confirmation.

So my question to you guys is i can ship out a small priority box with DCN, the cardboard one smallest one "one size fits all" as long as i put enough postage on it right?   (not talking about  those wide priority mail envelopes) even tho thats what the usps clerk said which sounds like bullshit.


I plant to use one 4.95-new river George stamp and to cover the extra dollar and 15cents (1.15$) use first class mail stamps, would this be okay?


To my knowledge it is 6.10$ in stamps correct?   Please let me know if i am totally wrong i dont want my item not to arrive and of course final question they do take these boxes if i just drop it off at a usps blue box correct?   Some nice person please lead me towards the right way on doing this :)    Thaanks thanks thanks i really need this knowledge ?
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: Moneymike on March 24, 2012, 02:24 am
Also need help on this i have no clue on shipping priority and would like to with delivery confirmation. Can anyone tune in?
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: brutusk on March 24, 2012, 09:29 am
yes, the small flat rate boxes are 6.10 with dcn. My PO won't even sell the stamps unless I bring the box to the counter, even for the flat rate boxes, so I am stuck with apc (I have become pretty tricky with the cameras hehe). I WISH I could buy the 4.95 stamps!
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: dipmyfry on March 24, 2012, 06:38 pm
So pretty much as long as the small flat rate box being sent with dcn has 6.10 in stamps it will send from bluebox? Using one of the 4.95 stamps plus the remaining amount in whatever kind of stamp: say i use 1- 4.95+ 3 first class mail stamps to cover the rest would that get it sent out? Someone please help a nigga out on this :/  ???   
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: brutusk on March 24, 2012, 06:47 pm
Sorry, can't help you on the blue box method, but I'm sure someone who knows will come along to answer your question
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: dipmyfry on March 24, 2012, 06:54 pm
Thanks for the other info man (: 


I am very iffy if i should send it out because when i went too buy the 4.95/5.15 stamp aka priority stamp the mail guy was like yeah you cant ship any type of box with that stamp, i asked even the small flat rate box and he said no only the priority envelopes so this is why im in such need because i need to ship priority. Can you ship small flat rate boxes with stamps via bluebox anywhere in the United states? (the most common states not alaska hawai etc) Or is do they have different rules and therefor i should listen to my postoffice clerk and not send with small flat rate boxes ? help this nigga out
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: Moneymike on March 25, 2012, 10:46 pm
I think if they told you that shipping boxes is not allowed that you got to bring them in then just mail in a priority flat rate mailing envelope instead so you dont take any risks
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: dipmyfry on March 26, 2012, 09:53 pm
Ahh! Does anyone know anything about this it is nerve reckiing! my head hurts
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: oso on March 26, 2012, 10:12 pm
1st dont listen to your local PO clerk they suck. You wanna find a post office that has the 5.15 priority stamps, packs of 20, took me a while to find a PO that carried them. IF the clerk looks at you funny if you ask for a book of 20 5.15 priority stamps, go somewhere else.

Then get normal forever stamps

Then get 10c stamps.

1 5.15 stamp, 2 forever, 1 10c = 6.13  so it will ship with DCN.

As long as it is under 13 oz. you dont have to take it to a post office just drop it in a box. Even if it is over 13oz just go in and hand the clerk the package they will scan the dcn and confirm the postage and put it in the bin.

Works like a charm every time.


I'm thinking about selling priority stamps on SR> should I?
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: dipmyfry on March 27, 2012, 12:40 am
1st dont listen to your local PO clerk they suck. You wanna find a post office that has the 5.15 priority stamps, packs of 20, took me a while to find a PO that carried them. IF the clerk looks at you funny if you ask for a book of 20 5.15 priority stamps, go somewhere else.

Then get normal forever stamps

Then get 10c stamps.

1 5.15 stamp, 2 forever, 1 10c = 6.13  so it will ship with DCN.

As long as it is under 13 oz. you dont have to take it to a post office just drop it in a box. Even if it is over 13oz just go in and hand the clerk the package they will scan the dcn and confirm the postage and put it in the bin.

Works like a charm every time.


I'm thinking about selling priority stamps on SR> should I?

Thannnnks oso! :)  Very helpful

I bought the stamp(s) that have a 4.95 price on it but the dude at the PO clerk told me they were the 5.15 ; but he also gave me a 20cent stamp which now makes sense why because it adds to 5.15. aww..  Also what is the fee for shipping a small flat rate box with dcn 6.15 or 6.13 ?

I think vending priority stamps would be pretty nice as long as they aren't way more than than 5.15. what were you thinking of selling them for same price or add a small fee?



Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: oso on March 27, 2012, 03:10 am
Priority +DCN=$6.10USD

IT went up in January from like 5.90?
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: LittlePharma on March 27, 2012, 07:19 am
Whats with these damn mail clerks anyways?  Everytime I go in to get supplies, they look at me like im an idiot.  I get priority envelopes, 4.95 and 1.00 stamps, and I ask for a stack of the green DCNs.  Everytime I go in, regardless of who the clerk is, they give me shit and tell me I need to buy these supplies online.

This last guy, today, flat out told me next time he wouldn't give me the supplies, I HAVE to order online.

What the fuck is that?!
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: brutusk on March 27, 2012, 12:59 pm
My post office has a 24 he lobby with supplies, I pick them up after hours for that reason. I even had a clerk give me Shit about asking for change of address forms a few weeks ago!
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: Huxlay on March 30, 2012, 07:13 am
1st dont listen to your local PO clerk they suck. You wanna find a post office that has the 5.15 priority stamps, packs of 20, took me a while to find a PO that carried them. IF the clerk looks at you funny if you ask for a book of 20 5.15 priority stamps, go somewhere else.

Then get normal forever stamps

Then get 10c stamps.

1 5.15 stamp, 2 forever, 1 10c = 6.13  so it will ship with DCN.

As long as it is under 13 oz. you dont have to take it to a post office just drop it in a box. Even if it is over 13oz just go in and hand the clerk the package they will scan the dcn and confirm the postage and put it in the bin.

Works like a charm every time.


I'm thinking about selling priority stamps on SR> should I?

Thannnnks oso! :)  Very helpful

I bought the stamp(s) that have a 4.95 price on it but the dude at the PO clerk told me they were the 5.15 ; but he also gave me a 20cent stamp which now makes sense why because it adds to 5.15. aww..  Also what is the fee for shipping a small flat rate box with dcn 6.15 or 6.13 ?

I think vending priority stamps would be pretty nice as long as they aren't way more than than 5.15. what were you thinking of selling them for same price or add a small fee?


Was curious about this myself a clerk told me i cant ship the boxes with stamps through bluebox that it will be better to just bring inside so they can weigh it. Fuck that. Is this true? Or if it fits and is under 13oz it ships.....?
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: Oldtoker on March 30, 2012, 09:25 am
Why not test it out?  Send a box with old newspaper clippings in it to a friend.  See what happens.............
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: Huxlay on March 31, 2012, 12:51 am
I would but we dont really have spare stamps/cash. i went to the post office not in my town but the next few towns next to it to ask and is what they say.. Idk seems like it should get sent as long as proper stamps are on it/ it is on point dont you think?
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: ProfADaemon on March 31, 2012, 01:03 am
Ahh! Does anyone know anything about this it is nerve reckiing! my head hurts

The postal clerk was totally wrong; however, the people that check your mail for proper postage are the same people who might be wrong about whether you can use those boxes. In your town, it seems employees might be mistrained so it's perhaps not safe to use those small priority boxes. The rule that he's probably thinking of is that you can no longer send those boxes containing over 13oz in product without paying for it at the counter.
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: ProfADaemon on March 31, 2012, 01:06 am

I'm thinking about selling priority stamps on SR> should I?

I would buy them since you can't currently buy postage using bitcoins directly online.
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: Huxlay on March 31, 2012, 01:15 am
Hmm. So do you guys think it would be better to ship a flat rate priority envelope instead of the small flate rate box? I think i should just send the box with correct postage.. It will not be over 13oz for sure so no worry of them not getting it out because of that factor
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: Pazure on March 31, 2012, 01:28 am
Time and time again i have shipped using the Flat rate envelopes with DCN by dropping in the blue box. i have even paid the postage on a box with the .45 cent stamps. thats 14 fuckin stamps! and it made it just fine. honestly there is nothing out of the ordinary about it everyone i know that uses priority flat rate just uses stamps. but it does look better to have less stamps.
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: Pazure on March 31, 2012, 08:24 pm
I like the envelopes because they are a little little bit cheaper. but if the security of the box is what you are after try this for extra security.
pack in small priority box. then put box in flat rate envelope. two layers of protection and guess what it fit so it ships!! that way even when the envelope rips open from a machine, dropping, a nosy postman there is just another box in it! i just love love love getting creative with packaging.
Title: Re: Shipping priority with dcn, Help advice, please? Really need you guys right now
Post by: th3creeper on April 01, 2012, 11:04 am
There's no reason to test anything out.  USPS has a rule and procedure and official  form to cover every conceivable mailing scenario.  As someone said you most cannot always count on postal workers to have the correct answers. 

Huxlay..the confusion here seems to be about flat rate mailers vs NON flat rate.  "If it fits it ships" pertains ONLY to FLAT RATE boxes and envelopes.  If the box isn't clearly labeled FLAT RATE..for purposes of determining postage you treat that pkg as if it were a box you dug out of your closet.  I don't think the USPS smallest box is Flat Rate but when sending Priority..the postage will still usually come out to be the same providing it comes in under 16 ounces.  And concerning drop boxes...Your #1 concern should be the "13 Ounce Rule".  Once you got that part down...it it fits into the slot then it can be dropped.  Given the minimal size of the drop slot ..dropping mail in blue boxes is ALL about weight, not size.

Shippers should download the USPS Shipping Assistant and use it to determine correct postage.  It uses the same calculating tools retail clerks use.  DO NOT use it to print out shipping labels( paper trail) for sending contraband however.