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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: topshelf1 on May 22, 2013, 06:30 pm

Title: How Do I Start Uninsg PGP?
Post by: topshelf1 on May 22, 2013, 06:30 pm
I had a look at some of the threads on this subject...but I guess I am missing something since I don't know where to start...

1...what software do I download? I am using Win XP.

2..how do I get a public and private key?

3..If I publish my public key on this forum or example...do I then use my private key to encrypt an email, and then anyone with the public key can decrypt it?

4. if someone send me an encrypted mail, do I use their public key to decrypt it?

Regards,

Topshelf
Title: Re: How Do I Start Uninsg PGP?
Post by: happyhippy on May 22, 2013, 06:52 pm
Check out the newbie pgp club stickie at the top . It will give you all the info you need .
Title: Re: How Do I Start Uninsg PGP?
Post by: topshelf1 on May 22, 2013, 07:06 pm
I read through several pages of that thread...it is not a how to guide by any stretch...

I need simple answers to the questions I posted at the top o this thread...

thank you,,,
Title: Re: How Do I Start Uninsg PGP?
Post by: partycat on May 22, 2013, 07:44 pm
1...what software do I download? I am using Win XP.

GPG4Win is the probably best bet for Windows. It will install GPG, and Kleopatra. You can select to also install GPA (Gnu Privacy Assistant). Kleopatra and GPA are two graphical user interfaces, so they do pretty much the same thing but the one you decide to use is up to you. It doesn't matter which one you end up preferring to use, since both of them work just fine. GPA isn't set to install in the default installation of GPG4Win, but during installation you can select to install it if you wish.

2..how do I get a public and private key?
You will be asked to make a key when you first launch Kleopatra or GPA. This will generate a public and private key. The public key is safe to share with others, the private one is never to be shared with anyone.

3..If I publish my public key on this forum or example...do I then use my private key to encrypt an email, and then anyone with the public key can decrypt it?
To encrypt a message for someone else, you will need their public key to encrypt the mail with. Once it's encrypted with their public key, even you can't decrypt it again.

4. if someone send me an encrypted mail, do I use their public key to decrypt it?
If someone sends you an encrypted mail, they have used your public key to encrypt it and you will use the private key as well as the passphrase you set when you made the key to decrypt it.


What follows is a quick explanation I wrote up for someone else earlier today, I hope it can help you.

Download GPG4Win (gpg4win.org [please use your regular browser to navigate here]), it will be a pretty straight-forward installation but GPA isn't selected to be installed by default. Kleopatra is, however. You can run the install again afterwards if you didn't select GPA the first time, and install GPA if you want at a later point.

When you open either of the programs, it will ask you to create a key. For your anonymity's sake, don't use your real name or an email that can be linked to your identity.
 
Use a passphrase you can remember, though because if people want to message you with encrypted messages you will have to input your passphrase to decrypt them.

Now that your key has been made, you can export your certificate/key by right clicking it and select to export. It will ask you to save a file, and you can open that file in a text editor to get your public key. This one is safe to share with others, and it's what others will use to encrypt messages that only you can read later. Never ever share your secret key.

If you wish to encrypt a message to someone else, you'll have to have their public key. Save their public key as a file on your harddrive, and import it in GPA/Kleopatra. You can't use other people's public keys to decrypt anything.

This is the big difference between GPA and Kleopatra, in my opinion; You can easily make an encrypted message for someone else by going to GPA's clipboard and write your message, then select to encrypt using the recipient's public key that you have saved. It'll tell you that you can't decrypt it after you have encrypted it, just as a reminder (not that you don't know what it says anyway). Then it will output the encrypted message that you can give to them.
They will then decrypt that message using their private key and passphrase.

In Kleopatra, you'll have to create a file with your message, a regular txt file is fine. Then you'll have to go to File -> Sign/Encrypt Files -> select your file containing the message -> Encypt, and make sure the Text output (ASCII armor) checkbox is checked -> add the recipient's public key that you've saved -> Encrypt.
It will then output a file named the same as your file, and .asc at the end. You can open this file in a text editor and copy the contents to send to the person you encrypted the message for.

When other people want to encrypt a message to you, they'll need to do the same steps with your public key. When you receive it, you will have to use your passphrase to decode it. It's pretty simple, actually! Try posting your public key in the Newbie PGP Club and have a quick conversation with someone, in private!

I hope this quick guide will help you take the first few steps. :)
Title: Re: How Do I Start Uninsg PGP?
Post by: DoctorFate on May 22, 2013, 07:48 pm
Well your last post pretty much guarantees no one will help.  If you can't do it with what others have already said then there isn't much anyone else can say that will help you.

You want  an easy 123 step to using pgp?  Here it goes, go to google.com, type "how to use pgp windows" and start reading.

Update: You only have to read the first post of the newbie pgp thread, that is where the guide is.
Title: Re: How Do I Start Uninsg PGP?
Post by: bobmoss on May 22, 2013, 08:05 pm
down load gpg4win, & maybe print out the compendium, or parts that might be useful. in the program, you will go to whatever part it is, and simply press a button to generate your own pub/prvt key. get 1 or 2 extra email addresses & practice with yourself. encrypt with your public key, send to your alt ego, & decrypt with your prvt key. but hey - don't get sidetracked like me. depending on what you plan to do, the only thing you really need, is to be able to copy & paste the pub key of a vendor with a product you like into notepad or wordpad. in most cases all you're ever going to do is encrypt your mailing address. so - you need to be able to copy that pub key, & then, in 'GPA' you type your address onto the 'clip board', select encrypt, choose vendors pub key, click ok, then copy & paste result into your SR order form. as long as you have BTc in your account, hit submit order, & you are on your way. don't get stressed, it all works pretty smooth.
the hardest part might be making sure your 'copy & paste' is perfect - no more, no less. also, keep visiting the SR PGP club. it is helpful.
Title: Re: How Do I Start Uninsg PGP?
Post by: arananegro on May 23, 2013, 03:00 am
hey dont worry I felt like you too.  I am not dumb but not very good with computers.  and this pgp thing confused the hell out of me. But finally I found a good tutorial tells you step by step exactly what to download, how to download it, how to set it up, how to use it. 
http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/gpg4usb/

try it and send me a message below is my public key

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Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (MingW32)
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TpN8kzBuogRdNcpJHGPQVmtLzjXUZRcmGbeRiNDUtLptoXwvAKWNyTgUEMuUSRf1
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ri4=
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-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Title: Re: How Do I Start Uninsg PGP?
Post by: topshelf1 on May 23, 2013, 05:02 am
Kind thanks to Partycat for that great step by step explanation...I feel ready to give it a try now...

Thanks also to arananegro and bobmoss...very nice to see helpful folks here who don't talk down to you if you are new to a subject...

Kind Regards,

Topshelf
Title: Re: How Do I Start Uninsg PGP?
Post by: bobmoss on May 23, 2013, 12:44 pm
p.s. - using SR requires discipline & patience. you don't just wake up one day, sign up, & get molly in the mailbox the next day. depending on your background & ability, the learning curve can be pretty steep. connections can be slow, servers will re-set. it is wise to use the road during off-peak times - early morning, late at night. don't just hang out on SR daydreaming. i take a 2-step approach. first i shop & download vendor public keys, then i place an order at a different time & day. when i order, i stay logged in as short as possible - 5 minutes.
Title: Re: How Do I Start Uninsg PGP?
Post by: topshelf1 on May 25, 2013, 09:51 pm
Partycat..and other helpfilu coimmunity members....

I donwloaded the GPG4Win software and the user guide in pgf which did a good job of walking me through the installations and test run...it suggested I end my public key to an autmated computer Adele and she would send me back a a message encryted with my public key that I could then decrypt using my private key...

I received back the email from Adlele...but now the problem is that I am supposed to MS Outlook which I don;t have ...I have outlook express...I sent my email to aldele from tormail,,,


What do I do know...?

Sorry for the newbie questions...

Regards,

Toppy...

Title: Re: How Do I Start Uninsg PGP?
Post by: ablsnat on May 25, 2013, 10:42 pm
Here is a good guide including specific software to utilize (gpg4win: Kleopatra)

http://p3lr4cdm3pv4plyj.onion/guides/kleotxt.html
Title: Re: How Do I Start Uninsg PGP?
Post by: imoscardotcom on May 25, 2013, 11:45 pm
This was one of the biggest obstacles to start using SR. Sitting down and learning PGP might be one of the harder things I've done on a computer (I think learning C as a teenager was easier, ha!). Keep at it and you'll have an "a-ha!" moment in a few hours. It's one of those things that seems impossible when you being, but eventually you realize it's just a matter of having a text editor. There's a plethora of info on the forums and various search engines. Best of luck!